What did your parents teach you that you had to unlearn?

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ theonecalledzach ยท 21067 points ยท Posted at 22:44:33 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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fusionman51 ยท 895 points ยท Posted at 06:40:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well my grandpa told me that soda evaporates quickly (as in half the can in 20 min) when I was around 6. Took me like 10 years to realize he's been drinking my soda when my back is turned. I always drank my soda fast when outside or in hot places because of it.

SolitarySysadmin ยท 101 points ยท Posted at 07:33:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's really funny. I bet he had a good chuckle to himself every time he did it.

CheesecakeGobbler ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 12:14:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is just cute. :)

[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:07:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I dunno. Like, think about it. His grandpa was somehow there every time he ever drank a soda in the heat. There's something going on there.

fusionman51 ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 19:15:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well when I was little I didn't drink soda at home but when I visited my grandparents during summers they let us drink soda. Usually the house was boring so my brother and I always played outside. It took me so long to figure out that soda doesn't evaporate that fast because when I got a little older I would be at friends houses that had soda and I would drink it quicker to get all the soda before it evaporated lol

Superflaming85 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:15:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe he wanted to spend time with his grandson?

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:24:12 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lol. Im taking notes.

dvrussia25137 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:27:47 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

At least it helps your teeth out.

yogurtsucks ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:28:03 on August 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hey I'm so late to this but I need to know! Did you ever get a chance to tell your grandpa that you realized he'd been tricking you?

fusionman51 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 07:46:44 on August 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I actually pulled the same trick back on him a few years ago on his birthday (it's in July so prime hot month right there). He grabbed his can and got a puzzled look on his face and looked at me. I shrugged and said "guess it evaporated" with a smirk. He laughed and I said "I believed that for years!" He said he was wondering if I ever figured it out lol. Now it's like a joke we play on my baby cousins who are all around the age of "I believe soda evaporates fast" age of 6. I don't wait 10 years to tell them though lol

yogurtsucks ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:32:56 on August 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Aghhhhh that makes me so happy to hear!!! That's beautiful.

rompope ยท 1553 points ยท Posted at 00:54:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Wanting anything is selfish. (EDIT: I'm glad i wasn't the only one. Hope you all have a beautiful night)

Forsoul ยท 111 points ยท Posted at 17:44:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Learning to undo this train of thought is the greatest feat of my life.

It's still hard for me to attempt for first place in any form of competition. I always feel that someone else is more deserving so I don't give it my all. If I do win I am always certain it was a fluke.

This applies to my relationships in the worst way too. I have a hard time dating because I am convinced that if I date them that I would taking them off the market and someone more deserving would be losing out. Or how I have a strong desire to be dominant in the bedroom but am constantly guilting myself for wanting those things, so I either submiss or beat around the bush.

It doesn't matter what I want, I am undeserving and to achieve is selfish and wrong... Fuck that thought process.

rompope ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:30:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm slowly getting there.

Kingtorythegreat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:05:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

alot of us are right there with you mate

rompope ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:11:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Blessings to you all.

Poiuytgfdsa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:46:38 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

what do i do to make it go away ):

tonksndante ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:30 on September 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Therapy helps. Specifically psychoanalysis.

RatofDeath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:45 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck that thought process indeed. I'm slowly making progress, but the crippling "I'm not deserving" and/or the "I'm selfish" thoughts are still ambushing me every once in a while.

sodiumvapour ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:52:01 on September 2, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What do i do to unlearn this

JD-King ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:20 on September 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

beat around the bush

Do they like that?

SchuminWeb ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 16:27:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You have to take care of yourself first, because no one else will.

rompope ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:29:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That was the hardest concept to get through to myself. I had 0 self worth.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:19:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You have to learn which people are worth taking care of. If you care for the right people that sweet karma will come back to you when you're in need.

Aerex12 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:30:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is it wise to say everyone is worth it? The world is a little isolated if we only care about ourselves and those close to us.

cocacolakill ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:03:43 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes but everyone is connected everyone knows at least 1 other human, so if everyone cared for the people worth caring for then there would be a good percentage of people that cared for eachother and a good percentage of people who are arrogant enough that noone cared for them

Aerex12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:14 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is a fair point. I never thought of it that way.

cocacolakill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:45 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The world is never isolated, there are only people who decide to isolate from the world

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:22 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well what I meant is I've given some people my very last spending money because I know I can expect it back from them when I'm in need.

Some people will never do anything for others. Those are not worth it and those are also the ones who live by op's philosophy.

Aerex12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:42:05 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think this is my point. I don't know of living that way is truly wise in my opinion. If you only help those who help you then it does not appear that you really care for that person. What if there is a reason why this person does not care to help anyone and such reason is not in his or her control. Do we have the right to judge the person by calling him or her unworthy?

No doubt you need to have wisdom so none takes advantage of you but at the same time your actions should be in some matter helping the person improve. Whether or not they take it is up to them.

[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 00:43:30 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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rompope ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:08:42 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The same happens to me, especially at work.

Shaggyninja ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 12:30:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wanting things is selfish. But being selfish is good.

If your ancestors weren't selfish, you probably wouldn't be alive. But at the same time, if they weren't selfless, you also probably wouldn't be alive. You need a good balance :)

SmallLumpOGreenPutty ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 16:45:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Every time I see something I really want, and I buy it (not a frequent occurrence) I'm swamped with guilt at wasting money - even though I have a job and still live at home - and trepidation over what my mum will say about it when she finds out. But she'll go out and buy herself another handbag after a year, when her original one is still in good nick.

I know she used to be quite poor and had to be smart with her money from a young age, but our situations are not the same, and since I work a 0-hour contract all I need to do is phone in for another shift if I need to make up for the money I spend.

But shit, if I see some nice game merchandise then it won't kill anyone if I buy it, especially if it's clothing.

AnthieaTyrell ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:56:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh god this resonates with me so much... My husband is trying to get me to ask for things and say what I want to do, not what I think will make everyone else happy...

rompope ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:12:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I get you. It really sucks growing up with this mindset because when you DO actually get something, you either feel really guilty or you are made to feel like shit.

DearYouu ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 14:17:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait- it's not? Damn catholic guilt

VaporStrikeX2 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:59:59 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My problem with unlearning this is that I did a full 180 and am now a compulsive buyer. Almost 90% of my compulsive buys are video games, because I have a gaming addiction that I really should try to curb, but I'll buy random other stuff too, as long as it's on sale. If something is on sale and looks like a really good deal, I'll usually buy it on the spot. Which isn't super great for my wallet.

AnthropomorphicPenis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:02:40 on September 15, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here, currently around 3000 euro in debt because I'd rather buy videogames and sneakers and milkshakes than pay my bills.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:03:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit. This. This is so my situation. Has anyone successfully changed this in themselves?

Cobbleking32486 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:34:15 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

something slightly similar, if you have something your sibling should have it too.

DranksErrDay ยท 193 points ยท Posted at 02:59:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents are deaf so I had to re-learn how to pronounce a lot of phrases and words.

[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:56:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Like what?

DRock0001 ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 07:07:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No they had that one down

spaceprison ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:52:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Clever

DranksErrDay ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:36:23 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Best example I can think of is when my mother says "I didn't know" to others it sounds like "I see no".

psinguine ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:31:23 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Quick question. Do they know farts make a noise?

TMeredithC ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:37:02 on November 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh yeah deaf people do.

We know anything vibrating or moving makes a sound.

psinguine ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:42:52 on November 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I actually appreciate you getting back to me 3 months later on this one. Really.

TMeredithC ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:45:33 on November 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good. Because I just realized the age of the comment. I got worried.

efrique ยท 4290 points ยท Posted at 02:08:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

My mother told me I had another middle name one day.

Aloyisius

I hated it, of course, but eventually came to terms with the idea.

It was years later that she realized I had been writing an extra middle name on literally everything that required my full name -- and asked me why I was doing such an odd thing.

She had forgotten what she had done. When I told her she laughed at me for about an hour straight. Tears rolling down her face laughing so hard she peed herself.

Yeah, thanks.

She taught me capsicum seeds were poisonous. They aren't. (She really believes this one though)

A bunch of other stupid stuff. (Edit: Half of it to troll me, the rest because she believes weird stuff.)

(Yeah, I misspelled the name... You should have seen how I spelled it when I was 7)

underpantsbandit ยท 2912 points ยท Posted at 04:43:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandfather thought it was hilarious to threaten me with renaming. He swore he would get my dad to change my name to Wolfgang Helmoot IV if I misbehaved. I believed it wholeheartedly. (Nobody in my family was ever named Wolfgang Helmoot, and I am female).

coolcat42069 ยท 1832 points ยท Posted at 05:25:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wolfgang Helmoot sounds like a badass name!

[deleted] ยท 87 points ยท Posted at 10:02:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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M3n747 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:20:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mancomb Seepgood beats them all.

Crumbletoast ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:30:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Throatwarbler Mangrove

M3n747 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:35:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's spelled "Raymond Luxury Yacht".

Mercinary909 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:46:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Does anyone have a link to that story? I'd find it but im on mobile.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:26:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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Mercinary909 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks!

Thanos_Stomps ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Didn't that guy kill himself?

Schootingstarr ยท 144 points ยท Posted at 09:13:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a german I can only disagree. Only middle aged Men are called wolfgang, and I am almost certain that by law, only wrinkly Old Men can be named Helmut

motasticosaurus ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 09:53:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep, and combination of Wolfgang Helmut sounds like some weird right wing politician.

[deleted] ยท 75 points ยท Posted at 11:21:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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SpaceHippoDE ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 13:07:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Actually no, to a German it sounds like a retired mine worker from the Ruhr industrial area who has a serious lung condition from all the rockdust but still smokes 10 packs a day at his favorite pub while ranting about his wife, foreigners, and the neighoring city's football club (he never played football himself). Alteratively, he could be a trucker. Replace the lung condition with serious overweight and baldness, the other things still apply.

GarbledComms ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 13:46:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

TIL Germans have rednecks, too.

SpaceHippoDE ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 13:52:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is just a parody but when I was a kid, some of my classmates' fathers looked pretty much like that.

DieArschgeige ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:17:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wooooo Schalke

cookrw1989 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:14:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is a gorgeous VW Bus, and I want it!

Quatzecoatl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:20:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A friend of mine has a bit of a pet project VW Bus: http://i.imgur.com/sRFdLoA.jpg

GarbledComms ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:07:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Looks like Weird Al Yankovic.

manelsen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:25:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And they're all called Wolfgang Helmoot

Rokusi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:11:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So then the obvious question becomes: What German name would sound to a German like what NicotineDiet described?

SpaceHippoDE ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:26:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Heinrich Leopold Maximilian Albert Freiherr zu xy

Rokusi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:34:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That does sound pretty badass, actually.

Baphomet_Abaddon ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 12:27:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you were to find graphic novel based on this or something - please don't sue me.

CybernewtonDS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:44:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Such beautiful imagery. ;'D

RichUncle_PennyBags ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:33:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You've convinced me that I need to change my name to Wolfgang

Schootingstarr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

nah, our barons are called things like "Karl-Theodor Maria Nikolaus Johann Jacob Philipp Franz Joseph Sylvester Freiherr von und zu Guttenberg" or something similar

tacotacoguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:50:59 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So, basically Teddy Roosevelt.

[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 10:29:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like a Nazi to be honest

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 11:14:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not everything German automatically has to be Nazi, gee

tacknosaddle ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 12:10:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Only middle aged Men are called wolfgang

Unless you are the son of Eddie Van Halen who was born in 1991.

IsaacM42 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:19:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What are the popular German names these days?

[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 13:38:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For Girls: Mia, Emma, Hannah, Sophia, Anna

For Boys: Ben, Jonas, Leon, Elias, Finn

Source

kapsas1 ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 14:00:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What a downgrade from Wolfgang to be honest.

NowWaitJustAMinute ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 15:22:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah where's Friedrich, Wilhelm, Friedrich Wilhelm, and Otto???

Toasted_FlapJacks ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:23:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Two of those names were so popular they had to be mentioned twice!

NowWaitJustAMinute ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:25:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Let's make German names great again

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:26:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can't agree more. Ben? Seriously?

Schootingstarr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:50:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

short for benjamin, a traditional, christian name

Rokusi ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:14:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We understand that, it's just that between Wolfgang and Ben the choice of Ben seems like madness.

Schootingstarr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:17:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

not really. to germans, wolfgang is a really lame name that screams conservatism. and it can't be shortened into something hip either. wolf sounds just as old (and weird on top, because it's also the word for the animal)

Cruzzfish1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm more shocked at Leon. Why would you subject that poor child to being called Leon?

Schootingstarr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:45:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

kevinisms were quite popular in the previous 20 years. kevins, justins, julians... quite a few of those around. also popular are the timeless christian names like christian, michael, peter (this one less), dominik, jan, joseph, etc

popular names with germanic/nordic roots are erik, bernd/bjรถrn, lennart and malte.

"typical" german names as seen in american movies depicting silly germans like helmut, hans, gรผnther, gerhard, etc. are all out of fashion for at least 50 years. it's from the ww2 era, when those names were ubiquitous for various reasons

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:07:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How about Hans?

Schootingstarr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:34:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

also out of fashion. only fat men are called hans. same as heinz

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well at some point those men had to be babies

Schootingstarr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

yes, in the 30's or so

Cobbleking32486 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:53 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know a 30 year old named Helmut.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:50:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is there an English version of the name or is that it? I think it's poised for a comeback!

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:21:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not sure but I haven't found any English or French version of Helmut

Schootingstarr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

since it's an actual german name, and not a german variation of a latin/greek/hebrew name, it's unlikely that there is a french version of it

Schootingstarr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't think there's an english version of helmut. the english equivalent in terms of how modern it sounds would probably be harold

btw, helmut literally means "protected spirit"

HiMyNameIs_REDACTED_ ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 05:44:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wolfgang Hell-Met.

Holy shit, I think I came.

Somzer ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 07:29:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hell-Met...? What?

I think it's spelled as Helmut, by the way, pronounced with a single L and a single U as in...Mutter. It's a Germanic name.

Trevita17 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 08:14:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's true, but all the same, Hellmoot sounds like a gathering of the lords of Hell to elect a new king.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:29:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Witenagemot

Trevita17 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:37:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Gesundheit.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:40:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's old english for folk moot.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:40:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trevita17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:04:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ah. Okey dokey. ๐Ÿ˜Š

harrythepineapple ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:55:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ent Moot

Titi-caca ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:11:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Excuse me, is this your helmet?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:12:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a german I confirm.

LdShade ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:02:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Hi"

"Hell-Met!"

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Light be with you, friend!

another-social-freak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:06:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

YEAH, "Wolf" to your friends.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Clap for the wolf man

thebonstergirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:25:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Start a band!

fatdjsin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:47:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Id rather have the lemosse lamp thing

danwroy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:46:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Look what you did OP, did you forget what site this is

All_Work_All_Play ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:04:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Really if I met a female named 'Wolfgang Helmoot' I'd check to make sure she was carrying a shotgun.

Draws-attention ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:13:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I've liked the name Wolfgang since The Explorers...

imnotsoho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or German cheese made from reindeer milk!

PM_Me_Steam_Games_Yo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:44:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, who the fuck wouldn't want to be Wolfgang fucking Helmoot?!?

Cobbleking32486 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:45 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I actually know a guy named Helmut.

Gorgonto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:59:12 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck yeah it does. Stealing it for my DnD campaign.

James-Sylar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:28 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is miss Wolfgang Helmoot the IV, for you sir.

HabseligkeitDerLiebe ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 09:15:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's "Helmut". It's a common German name for men born in the 1920s and 1930s, such as the former chancellors Helmut Schmidt and Helmut Kohl.

QParticle ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:07:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Helmut Zemo

(Sorry)

crazyjkass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's a taxi driver in Berlin named Helmut.

WaferCookie ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 08:03:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I would have misbehaved all the time

That's not a threat that's an incentive.

QuestInTimeAndSpace ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 09:18:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's actually Helmut. Nobodies actually called helmoot afaik

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 09:22:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm guessing *Helmut

BfunT ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 09:39:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm pretty sure he meant Helmut and not Helmoot ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

M-Rich ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:16:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As it is a german name I would imagine it's Helmut not helmoot, U is pronounced like OO :)

Stoompunk ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:50:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wouldn't it be Helmut though?

OneGoodRib ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:43:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What are you complaining about, that's an awesome name! I'm going to name my future son or daughter Wolfgang Helmoot now.

ironsalomi ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:20:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you're going to go through with it, I must inform you that it's Helmut.

AFK_Pikachu ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:07:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

this would have made me the most misbehaved child in the history of ever

Hill1140 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:16:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ours was Archibald Faggerbakker

wildcard5 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:26:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a child, that name would be incentive to misbehave.

Pronounta ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:18:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You probably mean Helmut, that's how the name is written. :P

sensors ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:17:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same for me, except my dad was the threatener and the name was Ndabaningi Sithole!

alleks88 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:53:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Helmut

Qzy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:30:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hi guys! That's Marc, Christina, Cathrin - and guys this is my date; Wolfgang Helmoot IV of the third Reich.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:34:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do you use underpants as a helmoot?

cqm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:37:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's actually amazing

Kingmezs23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:09:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandfather has no middle name. He convinced me as a kid that it was because they cost too much money.

timedragon1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:13:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If my Grandpa threatened to change my name to Wolfang Helmut IV I would misbehave even more.

gillandgolly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:32:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your grandfather didn't just think that - that is actually hilarious.

pantalooon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:03:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is he of German descent? I'm pretty sure he meant Helmut which is pronounced as an English Hell-moot

CoolShorts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:04:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's been some messed up stuff in this thread but this ones actually pretty funny

Vanayzan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:07:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My paternal grandfather constantly campaigned to have my name changed to Orristy Bushy Jones.

Baschi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:17:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It would be written Helmut ๐Ÿ˜Š

Nackles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:32:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And muthafucka would've even give you the 'u' and an umlaut? That's cold.

shortsj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:37:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad always told my brother he could very easily be renamed Simpson Strathcona, but i knew it was a joke. Like 95% sure my brother did too, but if my dad pushed it little brother would get all upset

mirshe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad always joked that he wanted to name me Judas Adolf.

thehared ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just picked up Wolfgang.helmoot@gmail.

AluminiumAlmaMater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents did something like that too. They swore that if I was mean to the babysitter, my evil Uncle Bruce would babysit next time and his dogs would eat me.

As it turns out, I was too scared to pet a dog until I was 10 and I have no Uncle Bruce.

fridgeridoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:46:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Helmut

SaucyHotPocket ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:10:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad threatened me with the name Waldo Wilbur and my sister with Mabel.

WestboundSign ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:13:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That might be because Helmoot isn't a name, so that point is (hel)moot.

If you're talking about Helmut, on the other hand...

MacadamNumber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandpa is a bit similar, since I am little, and still now, he likes calling me other names.

Things include Robert, Adolf, Hubert, Abraham, Rudolphus...all old fashioned names xD

"Hey rudolhpus! How are you? " :D

DarthJones1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If that was me, I would've been a little shit from that point on. Wolfgang Helmoot IV is a ridiculously awesome name.

PM_me_twitch_cancer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:04:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He probably said Wolfgang Helmuth

y_13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The young wolf

jaxsjourney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My cousin's dad literally almost named him Wolfgang Bloodaxe

Wolfgang3r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:46:33 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Whats wrong with Wolfgang? =(

schmati93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:25:32 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I almost started Crying when i read this, i'm at work..... Got to hold it back.... You're grandfather has an AWESOME sense of humor! lmao <3

Delphizer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:21:56 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Err, if your grandfather actually pulled off convincing your father they might have been able to pull it off...

BuggEyedBitch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:34:42 on August 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that is fucking hilarious. thank you for sharing

Argos_II ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:57 on August 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lul, Wolfgang is a german male name

champagnepappas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:52 on September 15, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

you should seriously make this your reddit name!

wolfganghelmoot ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:27:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This name is so badass. I have stolen it now. Thank you :)

BeefSamples ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 05:04:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother in law used to do that to my wfie. She thought she was switched at the hospital and her parents just didn't want to give her back to they gypseys. She finally figured out that they were just assholes around 8 or 9.

PM_YOUR_TAHM_R34 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:21:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Romania?

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:43:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Threatening to sell you as a kind to gypsies if you misbehave is a thing in Eastern Europe.

BeefSamples ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:19:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They did that too. It was more give her back but same concept

BeefSamples ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:18:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Poland.

Mighty_Morphing ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 06:26:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I found my birth certificate to get my learner's permit I found out I had a (very distinctive) different middle name..obviously shocking and confusing. A couple years later, the lady at the DMV printed my entire legal name on my driver's license, first-middle-last.

Filling out formal documents was confusing for years after. Until then, everything had my "original" middle name on it and now my IDs say another. I eventually stopped writing it in all together but what a mind fuck. I feel you.

letspaintthesky ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 06:31:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I found out when I was 19 that my dad misspelled my middle name on the forms. So I've been 'named like the month' all my life for nada. It's Mae dad, not May!!

Allydarvel ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 09:15:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mum found out when she was 60 that she had been celebrating the wrong birthday all her life. She was born on the early hours of the 17th..but her family thought she'd been born on the night of the 16th. It was only when she applied for her state pension she was told it couldn't start till she was actually 60 on the 17th

letspaintthesky ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 12:17:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Whoa! 60 years of celebrating wrong..did this not come up when she was 18/21?

Allydarvel ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 13:00:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Her family thought she was born before midnight..so the 16th. But the doctor registered it as after midnight, so the 17th. She had a passport and was married. I don't think she had ever looked. Nobody expects to look at their birth certificate and find the wrong date

letspaintthesky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:44:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I suppose that's true. You don't go looking for things that shouldn't be there.

Mighty_Morphing ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:01:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good to know I'm not the only one who had a middle name identity crisis!

letspaintthesky ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:05:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Glad I could help...or, that my dad could. At least I've been spelling it the way that's legally reciorded though, so I guess that's lucky-ish.

meggawat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:42:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I changed my last name during my parents' divorce, I also altered my first name slightly. My middle name is the only one I didn't change, and it's the only one my mom consistently spells absolutely wrong.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:13:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

At least both work

bluedanes ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 07:33:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was getting my first passport (around 14 years old) my parents told me that they had lied to me about my middle name and that it was something different. Still had the same middle initial so up until then never had a big impact. But for the next couple years I occasionally had to call my dad and ask how my middle name was spelled because I hadn't remembered the new one yet.

Mighty_Morphing ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 08:58:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Apparently birth certificates should include, "Not just a suggestion", in bold caps with a red arrow pointing to the child's name.

chewytime ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:14:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Similar thing happened to me except it was with my first name. I naturally assumed the name I always went by, and the name everybody called me, was my first name. Turns out I was wrong when I dug up my birth certificate and found a completely different first name. I've contemplated legally changing my name a couple of times, but I've just never been able to bring myself to do it. Just seems wrong for some reason.

Mighty_Morphing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:39:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh wow, finding out a different first name would be crazy! I wouldn't change it either though. It's an interesting part of who you are and you never know when having a different name may come handy.

0smo5is ยท 92 points ยท Posted at 06:20:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

capsicum

This is the third time ITT that Ive heard this. Does nobody but me call them peppers?

taurus972 ยท 110 points ยท Posted at 07:22:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wikipedia is telling me North America and the UK use red pepper, green pepper, or bell pepper and New Zealand, Australia, Singapore and India use capsicum. Weird shit, I've never heard capsicum before today. It sounds like a spice.

BrandonBuikema ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 07:26:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks for saving me a Google search! I'm from Chicago and I have never heard the word capsicum either.

Spartaness ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:57:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is Bell Pepper the yellow one?

taurus972 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 08:06:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nah I just neglected to mention yellow peppers. Actually after another minute on wikipedia, it turns out bell pepper is a blanket term for the different colours of peppers (something else I found out: they can be brown, white, or purple, which is also fucking weird)

Spartaness ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:51:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bell Peppers, Yams and Cilantro always confuse me in recipes.

bloodybollockingfuck ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:22:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Courgettes get me too - it's just a bloody zucchini.

Spartaness ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:10:09 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Courgette? Cosette? Oh my!

shut-up-dana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:32:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What do you call a yam?

Elitejack ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:51:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sweet potato. Cilantro is coriander, i believe.

orange_jooze ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:30:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or batat.

pznred ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yams and sweet potatoes are totally different things actually : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yam_(vegetable)

Elitejack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:27:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Woah, thats neat

Spartaness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:08:30 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The yam in NZ is actually this thing called 'oca', while what you call yam I recognise as a variety of kumara/sweet potato.

Link for NZ yams: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxalis_tuberosa

shut-up-dana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:21:17 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If I saw those in a shop I would think they were Jerusalem artichokes which are actually from a whole different order of plant, that's kinda neat. What do NZ yams taste like? It's been a while since I had them but I think Jerusalem artichokes taste more like a parsnip or carrot than a sweet potato.

Spartaness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:31:02 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Definitely like sweet potato, maybe a bit more bitter or tangy when boiled? That might just be the skin's taste coming through.

I've had Jerusalem Artichokes, and they're a bit different. Yams are sweeter, and have a stringier texture.

Cat_Servant ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:37:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I call them peppers and Capsicum and I'm from New Zealand :)

MattTheKiwi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:05:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same same, makes it real confusing when I'm trying to cook with one of Jamie Oliver's recipes, he just calls them peppers. Never 100% which pepper he means

Toxicitor ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:25:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pepper is a spice!

leadabae ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:41:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Toxicitor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:15:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

OP's point was that capsicum sounds like a spice. Pepper is the name of a spice. So australia wins in terms of having fruit names that don't sound like spices.

leadabae ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

...what. If capsicum sounds like a spice, then wouldn't Australia have fruit names that sound like spices?

taurus972 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:36:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well pepper the spice is most definitely, but as it turns out pepper the fruit is more complicated. It depends on what you're using it for, is the idea I'm getting from about fifteen minutes of scattered research into it

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:30:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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ChocolateGautama3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:20:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's no biological term called 'vegetable' they're either the seeds, fruit, leaves, stem, or root of a plant. So yes a pepper is a fruit.

CallMeNiel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:46:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's tricky nomenclature going on in all kids of ways here. Black pepper is not what most people would consider a fruit (although the peppercorns are technically the fruit of it). Bell peppers/red/green peppers/capsicum are more obviously the fruit of that plant, which has no relation at all to black pepper.

lachlanhunt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:32:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's gets more confusing when you consider that the majority of Europe call it Paprika, which is what we in Australia and (I think) the US call the spice that is made from capsicum.

TheBigBadDog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:28:50 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm from Australia, and not only do we call them capsicums, but the liquid cops spray in your eyes is called capsicum spray as well

SaitamaDesu ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:27:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Is it not?

Edit: "Capsicum is contained both in the fleshy membrane of both sweet and hot peppers and in higher concentration the seeds. This natural fruit may be used fresh or dried as a culinary spice "

source: google, Is Capsicum a spice?

morgrath ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:21:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The active spicy component of chillies is called capsaicin. I think that's what that paragraph means to say. Also, capsicum is the Latin genus that all chilli/pepper species belong to. And paprika is the spice made up of dried, ground up red bell peppers/capsicums. Maybe that's the confusion.

SaitamaDesu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:33:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Except that Capiscum is a Genus from the Tribe Capsiceae, not just a component.

What you are referring to is :

Capsaicin (/kรฆpหˆseษช.แตปsษชn/ (INN); 8-methyl-N-vanillyl-6-nonenamide) is an active component of chili peppers, which are plants belonging to the genus Capsicum.

taurus972 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:34:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't think so. Jury's out on chili peppers though

SaitamaDesu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:40:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Capsicum is contained both in the fleshy membrane of both sweet and hot peppers and in higher concentration the seeds. This natural fruit may be used fresh or dried as a culinary spice..."

So... I guess yes and no.

g_rocket ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 10:06:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

bell peppers

I was wondering what the fuck capsicum was. Thanks for looking it up for me.

MyRealNameIsFurry ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 07:54:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I call them bell peppers. Never heard the term capsicum before.

thebestdaysofmyflerm ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 08:48:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bell peppers are the non-spicy ones. Peppers is the general term.

mrpunaway ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:05:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I keep mine in my capsicum box.

efrique ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:57:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Peppers" is very common in the US, but I'm not from the US.

Knows_all_secrets ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:39:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why the hell would you call them peppers? That's needlessly confusing, pepper is already a thing.

boomfruit ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:49:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We didn't all sit down one day and decide to call them that. It's what we learned. I'm sure you have some less than ideal names for things.

abstract_misuse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:05:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Someone should make a Reddit thread about that kind of thing...

MyRealNameIsFurry ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:59:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Because they are peppers. They are members of the capsiceae family that includes piquant (spicy) chillie peppers (jalapeรฑo, habanero, Serrano, etc.) These are all peppers and capsicum (which we call bell peppers) are a large, mild variety.

Knows_all_secrets ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 08:19:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Those aren't peppers, man. They're just chillis, no idea why you're adding the word pepper to it.

Ieuan1996 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:21:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In the UK we call the spicy variety "chilli peppers", the sweet big ones "bell peppers", and after a quick Google search i just learned that what everyone calls black and white pepper (the dry spices) are part of a completely different family and that peppercorns themselves are a dried fruit that grow on a vine.

thebestdaysofmyflerm ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:50:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If I need to clarify, the spice pepper is black pepper.

the_jak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:07:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Woah woah woah, you cant just say that here. It sounds so hateful

Helios-Apollo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We prefer pepper-American.

ChocolateGautama3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:32:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pepper is a countable noun, you know to which it is referring to by the context. Saying you are going to need one pepper or a pepper means you are talking about the fruit. Saying 'pass the pepper' is referring to the spice.

Why do we call it that? Well peppers/chillis/capsicum are a new world food, when they were introduced to the old world they were called peppers because they were spicy, like the peppercorn. The name describes what they will taste like for someone unfamiliar to it.

tl;dr: Linguistics is weird; blame Columbus.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:45:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Because they aren't peppers. It was s misnomer.

[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 07:13:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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osteomiss ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:31:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Naw, never heard that word in Canada either.

HaydnWilks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:14:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm British and we generally just call them by colour, e.g. red pepper, green pepper, but I understand what's meant by "bell pepper". Never heard of capsicum until this thread.

To make things even more confusing, I lived in Korea for a while, and everyone there calls them paprika.

Serpian ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:46:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In swedish we have paprika, and the spice which English speakers call paprika, is called paprikapulver, which just means paprika powder, which is what it is.

But more bewildering than some people calling them capsicums, is that some people think their seeds are poisonous??

rylos ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:40:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We gave a kid two middle names. No weird ones, though. One of my daughters did the same to her daughter. It's not common in our neck of the woods, but it just seemed the thing to do at the time.

Mr_Abe_Froman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:13:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have two middle names. I was named after my grandfather, so it never seemed weird. A little confusing as a child in school when filling out standardized forms, but I really like my full name.

awkwardlylurkingdude ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:18:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad has three - his father, grandfather and great-grandfather. I always thought it was pretty cool but it's caused him nothing but trouble when we moved to Australia, in Germany nobody cared about middle names but here they require them on everything. He gets letters to Mr FWDN Smith (fake name) which look quite silly.

ameya2693 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:52:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have no middle names. It was strange when I found out that people had middle names. I was even more shocked to see people naming their kids after themselves. Only royal families did that because some kings and queens had done great deeds. But people naming their child X Junior was an, odd, concept to me.

efrique ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:56:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have no objection to two middle names as a general principle.

You just don't make one up to troll your 6 or 7 year old child.

zekneegrows ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:33:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Both of my kids have two middle names. Makes em more rhythmic lol

Cameron_Sonntag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:31:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've got two middle names. It's pretty cool, friends get weirded out by it for some reason.

TiGeeeRRR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:31:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm laughing so hard the tears are rolling! I might pee! Hahaha ๐Ÿ˜Š

ameya2693 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:49:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I use capsicum seeds in food all the time! Tell her that I have to be made of poison if they are poisonous.

ghettojaaack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:51:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She taught me capsicum seeds were poisonous.

What the fuck i got taught this too??? It wasn't until i started working at subway i realised they really weren't haha

trump_is_antivaxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:55:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Aloyisius

It's spelled Aloysius. Did your mother get it from Brideshead Revisited?

efrique ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:53:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I mispelled it, sorry.

I don't think so; she might have read the novel but I don't think so (she did watch the TV series but this was long before the TV series).

Alaharon123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:59:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hi Luna

spiritbx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:09:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Did you know that if you masturbate, you will go blind and hair will grow on your palms?

Kareus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:15:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Santa claus: the biggest troll of all

Lebor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:48:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family is calling me sometimes like that, it used to be a name of my great great uncle, it is not Aloyisius but Alois.

IAmTotallyNotSatan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:54:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad convinced my brother that he had a long-lost sibling named Aloysius who did everything slightly better than hi. He believed it until he was 9.

nixielover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:05:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Friend of mine had a better one: they told his younger brother, 10 years old, that he was adopted. The whole family was involved, baby pictures of his first weeks after birth were taken out of photo albums etc etc etc. They kept if up for a month or two... They are a really loving family though

aliengrrrl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:28:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have a scar on my lower back because I was born with spina bifida. My mom told me I was actually born with a tail and had it removed.

immapupper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:29:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Upvoted for pee.

twdziki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:51:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is some Catch-22 stuff, Major.

Samjamric ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:05:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This reminds me of when I was a kid and I told my baby sister that when she turned 3 her name was going to be legally changed to "Raggo". I didn't think she had believed me, but then on her third Birthday my mum approached me, asking why my sister was asking to be called Raggo xD

Josketobben ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:08:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

At least her senseless act of sadism functioned as a medium for her comedic genius to shine through. Aloyisius, bahaha!

Also, if she's anything like my mother, she didn't forget. She remembered everything other than how to act humanely during the aftermath and own her ethically dubious behavior.

roiben ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:25:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Go and eat capsicum seeds before her and then fake your death so she freaks out and as you are fake dying say something like: Dont remember me as efrique, remember me as Aloyisius! You should really troll her but dont take it too far she is your mother after all and outliving your children is horrible.

niallniallniall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:28:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't understand... Did she just say you had an extra name for the fun of it? If so why?

efrique ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:32:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Because she thought it would be funny. If I had been less gullible, it would have been

this_too_shall_parse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:09:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was a baby, I had a terrible rash & fever caused by penicillin.

Whenever I went to the doctor or the dentist, my mum would remind me to tell them that I'm allergic to penicillin.

About a year ago I was showing her the medical ID feature on my iPhone.

"Oh" she says, "You're not allergic to penicillin are you?"

I DON'T KNOW MUM, AM I?

lachlanhunt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:19:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why would she come up with such a weird name? Was there some context that would explain why she would tell you such a thing?

efrique ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Weird because trolling doesn't work as well if you're not freaking out the victim.

Nope, no context I can think of, it sort of came out of the blue. Just one day we were chatting about something in the kitchen. (Well, maybe we were talking about my actual middle name, I don't remember -- but I don't think it was even that)

up48 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:24:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah dude, the jokes that you think are real and they forget.

So much stuff like that, I took everything my parents said seriously.

dejoblue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:35:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LysandersTreason ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:48:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My uncle was for realsy named Aloysius. Which by the way is pronounced Al-oh-wish-us

efrique ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep, that's how she said it.

gilded_cages ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:09:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We rely on our parents to show us what's up - trolling your kid like that is how you develop neurological disorders.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:12:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think I'm going to die laughing, like, literally, I have this horrible chest pain and I can't stop laughing and it hurts and I deserve it cuz poor you, I'd be mad as hell But it's just so adorable and hilarious HDOEHPFNRUBDOEJSKWPEGVETJ

leadabae ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:37:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe I'd just be a shitty parent but that actually sounds pretty funny with the middle name. There was no harm done, right?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:43:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She taught me capsicum seeds were poisonous. They aren't. (She really believes this one though)

Just smoke some cigarettes, the smoke will suffocate the toxins

millicow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:54:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She's my new role model.

A few weeks ago I told my 6 year old sister that cinnamon is made from bird poop from cinnamon birds. Sugar is also made from bird poop. They put the bird poop into a machine that grinds it up into an edible powder. I think she still believes it but I'm not completely sure.

Hedgehogknight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:55:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair though, she sounds awesome.

_GameSHARK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:17:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bell peppers or all peppers? I guess capsicum seeds are fine to get rid of... No real flavor in em. Most other peppers lose a LOT of heat if you clean the seeds and pith before use.

aim_at_me ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:18:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She taught me capsicum seeds were poisonous. They aren't. (She really believes this one though)

Oh fuck me.

evoblade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:07:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's kinda messed up but I would respect her a little bit for it if it was a deliberate long con.

kadykinns ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:08:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your mom is giving me the best parenting advice lmao

LOLIMNOTTHATGUY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:12:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is what happens when Calvin's dad is unchecked

jeffhughes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:26:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, my mom thought bell pepper/capsicum seeds were poisonous too...or at least they would give you a stomachache. Took me years before I thought, "Wait a second, I've got the Internet, I'll just look it up."

Pishwi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:28:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Even worse, she didn't even spell the name right

efrique ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:23:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, that was me. She only said it. I expect she'd have spelled it wrong too, she was a way worse speller than me.

Pishwi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You did pretty well spelling it in that case

CrimsonFlower ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:38:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Capsaicin is actually a neurotoxin though.

Ron_Jeremy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:41:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad had this thing where he'd call me by a different ridiculous name every day. Ok not a unique name everyday, but he had a rotation. Aloyisius was among those. Hieronymous was another. Baruch, Alban, Xenophon...etc etc...

hsabo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:09:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom told me that tickle monsters lived under my bed. I was terrified of it for months!

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You could always say that your name is Mud, but to call you Alowishus Devadander Abercrombie because that's long for Mud as you've been told

omguraclown ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My Dad used to call me Aloysius, for no reason that I'm aware. Where in the world does that come from??Are you his secret other family??

Jaerba ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents bought me a polished rock once, and my mom told me it was poisonous. I think her intent was to dissuade me from putting it in my mouth. Obviously it just made me more curious.

JustiNAvionics ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My brother's middle name is J, he thought it was just his middle initial for Jay, my dad told him nope it's just J.

I won't say what my middle name is, but I thought it was weird, he told me it was a very common middle name. I never in over 30 years met or seen online any one with that damn middle name.

I always hated it, and for some reason BoA added it to my debit card so it prints out with my full name as if I was some type of royalty.

onioning ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:48:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Story goes that Dad wanted to name me "Guido Aloyisius" and Mamma stopped him. Thank maw.

Dad also wanted to save me his blue velvet tuxedo and maw made him ditch it, so he wasn't always wrong.

haanalisk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:28:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

capsicum

Australian confirmed

napoleonderdiecke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:41:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Aloyisius

You sure about that, buddy? Afaik, there's only Aloysius or Aloisius, but not Aloyisius.

efrique ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:21:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, she never wrote it down, so for all I know she probably spelled it "Allah-wishes" for extra troll value.

Tramagust ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

All through this thread I see kids complaining about troll parents. People think it's so funny to troll kids but it seems to leave a mark.

efrique ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In my case not all that much in the way of marks -- I can't say I even thought about it more than a small handful of times since adulthood, generally when something (like this question) prompts me to think about events like that.

It was literally -- as the title suggests -- something I "learned" (I now have two very unusual middle names) that I later had to unlearn (since it wasn't true).

Such stories are nearly always going to involve parents tell you something that's untrue, so either they're mistaken or they're misleading you, so of course there'll be a lot of the second one come out in a thread like this.

While it was certainly embarrassing to me at the time (I felt like an idiot for believing it, and for writing it in my books and telling people that was my name, and so on), it wasn't the worst thing that happened to me by a long way.

I think a certain amount of trolling of kids can be useful, when there's a point to it. [Well, it did teach me something about gullibility, but if that was the intent it needed to be followed up by the reveal much quicker than it was to be really useful.]

LL_Cool_Joey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is your name Frederick Palowakski by any chance?

efrique ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No. Actually that would work with Aloysius pretty well... (though still not with my pre-existing middle name in there as well).

Oh, but it would give you the initials FAP which might be a problem.

LL_Cool_Joey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:45 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's a revenge of the nerds reference, Frederic aloyisius Palowakski was Ogre's real name.

efrique ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:57:45 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ah! Yeah, I'd never have remembered that.

topkat13457 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your mom is awesome.

festerf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i love the name aloyisius!

Nocrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ngl, I would love to be named Aloysius. my gramps attended a school named after the Saint, and it would be hilarious to see teachers try to pronounce it- "uh-loy-see-us?" nope. aloe-wish-is

MundaneFacts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My brothers convinced me that my birthday was October 15, not October 16. 12 years later, I still have to remind my mother my correct birthday.

theflyingbarney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Huh. My parents did the exact same middle name thing with me, right down to that extra name being Aloysius!

My dad wasn't as good at playing along though, and so every time he'd seem to add another name to the list until it got to the point that they were claiming a full list of Aloysius Amadeus Mozart Wibble Bling-Blang. Oddly enough I caught on by the time it got to that stage.

BayushiKazemi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:04:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your mother is my hero

DickYeast ยท 16849 points ยท Posted at 02:34:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother is convinced all clothes are too tight unless they are falling off you. I looked like a ragamuffin for years until my rich sister-in-law pulled me aside and went "sweetie... I'm gonna take you shopping before you ever have to attend any job interviews looking like that"

blackgeorgewallace ยท 7517 points ยท Posted at 04:26:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh lord, when I was 12 my mother bought me two new pairs of size 9 jeans because I was "just going to keep getting bigger." I was a size 3. Twenty years later I've still never worn a 9/10.

AskMrScience ยท 1697 points ยท Posted at 05:37:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

When I was a skinny teenage girl, my parents bought me a men's large rain jacket from LL Bean. I'm now an adult who's 20 pounds overweight and it's STILL way too big. WTF were they thinking? "These things are expensive, and I'm sure our girl will grow up to play linebacker for the Jets"?

Laundry_Hamper ยท 200 points ยท Posted at 10:15:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

LL Bean will accept that as a reason for exchanging that jacket for one that fits, they have an amazing lifetime warranty

SooperDan ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 11:42:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep. Take it back and get something that fits.

AskMrScience ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 16:45:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow, really? I'm totally returning that thing! The jacket also has stupidly high pocket placement, but it was an expensive Gore-Tex raincoat and so I've just lived with it.

Fearmadillo ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 14:33:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

you don't need a reason (or a receipt) to return things to LL Bean. Instead of spending money there, I like to think of it as redeeming exchangeable beanbucks. This is something that i should probably unlearn

MrLinderman ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 14:53:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've had my LL Bean backpack for 20 years, and it's only now showing minor wear. I got 50x my money's worth, so I don't have the heart to return it.

I'm thinking I'll return it when my first kid needs a backpack.

[deleted] ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 14:57:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Headline: "FAMILY TRADITION BANKRUPTS THE BEAN"

STFUNeckbeard ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 14:54:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What kind of horrible parents would want you to play for the Jets?

foxy1604 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 07:22:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A few years back my mom did the same to me for a pair of rain pants (Sorry but I don't really know the real name..) that thing was so big that it easily could fit me in one of the legs.

bliow ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 15:05:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sure our girl will grow up to play linebacker for the Jets

You're right, honey. She'll be good, but not THAT good.

i_smoke_a_lot ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:10:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm around 110lbs and I've never really been more than 120 for more than a couple months. My dad bought me a jacket for christmas one year from the men's section at american eagle. He said none of the women's looked warm. 6 years later I still use it because it's just so fluffy. I still swim in it though..

Korbit ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:34:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've heard ll bean has a pretty lax return policy. You could try calling them to ask for an exchange for something in your size.

RushdieVoicemail ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:45:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom would buy me clothes that were ridiculously oversized as a kid because they were often on clearance.

PhroznGaming ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:49:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Silly girl. The Jets are a made up team.

GV18 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:30:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They may have been poor, and figured well either she'll be fat or can wear an oversized, boyfriend style jacket. LL Bean stuff lasts, plus with you having taken care of it, you'll be buried in that fucker.

AskMrScience ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:16:09 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why do you think I haven't gotten rid of it? That jacket is still going strong almost 20 years later without a scratch on it!

Prepareyourecolon ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:16:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Looking at the jets' talent you probably could.

purpleelephant77 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:44:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe they were thinking you'd grow a bit, and move somewhere cold and rainy so you'd need room for layers under your coat?

WillFixYoureGrammar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:22:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

youre probably just as skilled as a jets linebacker

NoPantsMcGhee ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 08:57:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

TBH your Mom probably picked it out, and your Dad was probably just thinking about all the dicks it would repel.

[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 14:38:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, nothing gets me going like a perfectly fitting raincoat. Grrrrr.

AskMrScience ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:47:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The man repeller was actually the pea coat they helped me pick out when I went to grad school. It technically fit, but was a giant black rectangle that erased any semblance of my figure. I called it Darth Vader. (Eventually, I wised up and bought one that was flattering. Vader got donated to a New England coat charity.)

lumpyshark ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:00:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe it was on sale? My mom got me a men's rainjacket from Columbia in medium... I'm barely even 5 feet tall so it looked ridiculous. She said she got it because it was like 50% off. lol

shadowsog95 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:58:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

20 pounds is not overweight. 60 pounds is overweight 20 pounds is a little chubby.

tralphaz43 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:32:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Return it

thatothersir225 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:59:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'll take that...

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad will still buy me a huge men's x size or a way too small xs womans size shirt every time he goes on a trip. There is no in between. And I don't even want shirts anymore

Ackables ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm pretty sure you can return anything to LL Bean no questions asked any time

galacticjihad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:29 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But look how long it has lasted

GroundsKeeper2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:57 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You'll never grow out of it.

Maternity jacket?

BayushiKazemi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:34 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mr Science, have you always wanted to be a linebacker for the Jets?

MajoranaFermionCakes ยท 154 points ยท Posted at 06:57:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom used to take me clothes shopping and squeeze the butts of jeans to make sure they were super duper loose so "you don't look like a slut". I have a naturally enormous ass, so I was always wearing jeans that were incredibly loose with belts, just so my ass "didn't look like a slut". And they were always mens jeans.

DickYeast ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 07:12:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ah yes, the triangle of space that forms between ass cheek, thigh, and jean. Anyone with an ass knows it well and dreads it.

Doctah_Whoopass ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:41:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shoulda convinced your mom that you could rock some sweet JNCOs

MajoranaFermionCakes ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 14:54:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I actually did. I had those huge ones, I can't remember if they were JNCO brand or not, but they were 69'' around the bottom. I posted on /r/blunderyears before I deleted my old account. Ohh, the late 90s / early 2000s were a marvellous time.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:54:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Doctah_Whoopass ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:53:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That sounds horrendous, I feel really bad that you had to go through that. All of my jeans are really small for someone my age because I have really skinny legs. I've found that normal boot cut/non-skinny jeans look like I'm wearing a potato sack, so skinny jeans look normal on me.

jussnf ยท 13968 points ยท Posted at 05:04:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sorry, I hope one day you find clothes that are 10/10

sparemethewearysigh ยท 384 points ยท Posted at 05:16:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hell he'd probably even settle for 5/7

Lofdlofd ยท 122 points ยท Posted at 05:40:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'll settle for three-fifths

Srmyer95 ยท 192 points ยท Posted at 05:43:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's what the south had to do.

max81968 ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 06:00:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shots fired

IITomTheBombII ยท 79 points ยท Posted at 06:02:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

At the slaves

attackchopper ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 07:52:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This went from clothes being to big to slaves being shot. This website amazes me

SomeAnonymous ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 11:35:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

*too

kalo8299 ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 06:21:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

whips cracked*

[deleted] ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 06:30:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

On their backs

SpxUmadBroYolo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:31:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Knick knack patty whack give a dog a bone

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:44:28 on August 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:50:20 on August 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Who wants a heart attack?

nootrino ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:09:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shackles locked

ThatOtherGuy_CA ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:40:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To the bed.

TheStevo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:33:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Gun cocked

vengefulspirit99 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:16:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In the rear

bigfatrhys ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:35:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cotton picked

probablyhrenrai ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 06:21:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They really prefer the term "African Americans" now.

masonw87 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 07:41:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Inuit to win it

Kendo16 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:37:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We prefer black more often than not.

uber1337h4xx0r ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 09:44:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, that's the joke.

Also, it wasn't the south that really settled. It was the north. The north wanted it to be 0.

slhendrix ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:02:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I like how the explanation of the joke got more upvotes than the actual joke

lukefive ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:25:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wish I was high on potenuse

Lofdlofd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:19:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

This got me so annoyed when I first saw that comment I didn't even reply to it because it seemed kinda stupid tbh, all he did was give an explanation to my joke (partially). And then he gets all the upvotes...

But I feel like he should have it now because I just saw his page and this is his first taste of reddit karma (possibly), so go have some more.

Srmyer95 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:17 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I just finally found a joke I could capitalize on, love the gold.

1337bruin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And the South wanted it to be 1. In a compromise, don't both sides settle?

uber1337h4xx0r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:13 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, but people make it sound like the south wanted slaves to be getting no votes when it was the opposite.

Although obviously it was so that the slaves voted for who they were told to vote for, but I digress

1337bruin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:57 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well the slaves weren't voting either way, but yes, the irony that if the slaves were counted it would have increased representation opposed to their interests is often lost in popular culture.

gregtish24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:59:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'd give you gold if I had money but this will have to do.... http://m.imgur.com/gallery/sy9lVl4

Lofdlofd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Tnx mate

Srmyer95 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:22 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've always wanted one. Thanks.

CranialFlatulence ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:30:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's how the north settled. The south wanted to count black people as a whole person.

Actually, they both settled (hence the name "3/5 Compromise"). The north didn't want black people to be counted as people at all.

Toastalicious_ ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:26:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's quite the compromise.

M3nt0R ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 08:45:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

3/5...tree fiddy...oh man, history does repeat itself..

RoboticChicken ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:01:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'll settle for tree fiddy.

erddad890765 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:40:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Tree Fitty?

DarkNinjaMole ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 05:24:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'd give it a perfect.

lostmau5 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:34:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How is it with rice though?

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:57:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Wouldn't the person be a girl?

sparemethewearysigh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:06:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes. Yes they probably would be a girl.

PuggyPie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:00:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm almost certain OP is a female, since our pants size system is usually so stupidly different from yours.

It's unfair. We'll never be equal until all sexes use the much more logical measurement system.

RPSisBoring ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:57:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

psh lucky guy.. has to settle for perfect

Oh_THAT_Guy_GMD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:34:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

At least not 9/11.

heftysak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:03:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Perfect.

L3GION1183 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:08:09 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i understood that reference :D

TheFlashFrame ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 05:48:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shit, came here to say this.

explos1onshurt ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 06:16:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

TENOUTTATEN

laman012 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 08:48:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The capital of the Aztec empire.

ReiceMcK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:37:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Tenochimichangalan

Captain_Argus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:21:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's some grade A meat!

hubert969 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:25:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

BEST GAME BEST GAME

RobbiWood ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:18:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ahh, the ol' reddit pants-a-roo

fissionman1 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 13:14:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hold my pants up, I'm going in!

Fumane ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:55:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Make sure those clothes are 10/10 with rice.

Papi_Grande7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:19:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Rice joke

vansc14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:19:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm still looking for my perfect 5/7

kerouacrimbaud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:35:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wew lad

EpicLegendX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:54:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

OP probably wears a 5/7

Orpheusdeluxe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Made my day !! :,D

dompike ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:38:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sorry, I hope one day you find clothes that are 10/10

Cajolerofdeath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:48:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

11/10 with rice though

mosaicc_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:11:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Would wear again

zaxxq6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:36:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TrymWS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:46:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'd rather have clothes 5/7.

SumPiusAeneas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:06:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just add rice

thaliaisanidiot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:05:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

11/10 with rice

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:07:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

With rice?

greyshark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:19:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sorry, I hope one day you find that you've become a size 10

shibeoss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:26:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe with rice?

saysthemachine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:38:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You've got this. I believe in you.

Wilreadit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:41:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or 7/5 with rice

Alarid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:50:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

5/7 is a better fit

ingen-eer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:00:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"I've never worn a 10, but one night, I wore FIVE 2s!"

-George Carlin, pretty much.

FurSofa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:03:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How is this not gilded?

jussnf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I literally doubled my comment karma overnight with a dad joke, did I start a pregnancy I don't know about?? Gold is the least of my problems now!

itsknob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:25:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

5/7 Perfect Score.

Tytybugger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:31:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

10/10 with rice

jaredjeya ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:02:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, you misunderstand. OP is Hannibal Lecter and literally wore a 9/10.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:35:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You mean 5/7?

SpxUmadBroYolo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:29:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

-IGN

slayer951 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:30:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dad?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:40:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

9/11. I don't know how to make the connection, so I'll just leave it at that.

Jessiray ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:52:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She just needs to put rice in the pockets.

JackHarrison1010 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is beyond smooth.

ajd341 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

with rice

mydogisarhino ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:51:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Only if you add rice to it

youcancallmealsdkf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:10:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

With rice?

bengga ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:30:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jeezus christ you made me snort hahaha

catbehindbars ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:37:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

5/7

fixtheflaws ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

7/7 with rice.

DokkanLetsPlaywith ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:45:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I C. What you did there Chicken.

Dan_Biddle ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:14:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or even a 5/7

Death_Pig ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:28:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A solid 5/7 is far better, I'd say.

YoshiCline ยท 88 points ยท Posted at 04:35:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom did the same thing. It's almost like she was expecting me to grow up fat.

Edit: to clarify, I didn't. But she and my father did and with the way she fed me I'm surprised I didn't.

MadeSomewhereElse ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 05:58:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom convinced me to buy a xxl letterman jacket in high school since my dad is a pretty big dude. At 6' tall and 175 pounds I still can't wear that thing. As a result I never got to wear it. Whenever my mom is trying to convince me of something that she thinks is a good idea I'll jokingly bring up the letterman jacket.

Cr3X1eUZ ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:35:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair, that was kind of the style back then. She probably just wanted you to be cool.

https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=JNCO%20jeans&tbs=imgo:1

blackgeorgewallace ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:42:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ohhhh that link brought back some memories. I never rocked the Jncos but I wore the shit out of some L.E.I. wide legs and Mudd flares.

[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 06:50:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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blackgeorgewallace ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 06:53:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You were conceived in those jeans, show some respect.

Phwack ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:59:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

These were popular into the early 2000s where I lived in the UK. I had a pink pair...

drunky_crowette ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:54:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was born in 92 and I had jnco jeans, as did my sister who was born in 84 and the one born in 90

tralphaz43 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:35:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't remember very many people actually wearing those

Hydroshock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:18:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't remember them being as big as some of those pictures

Lady_Generic ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:13:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haha, my grandmother used to be responsible for buying my clothes. She put me in an 8 when I was a 2/4ish. Also, my pants would always be near my ankles because she didn't like the pants to drag on the floor.

lalibella ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 06:38:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yup same thing here. She'd buy everything to grow into, but I stopped growing when I was about 12. She'd also buy coats and such a few sizes to large because they "had to fit over my other clothes so they need to be bigger" . That's not how it works, mom

Tuss ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:00:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is how I roll. But usually just one size too big.

I usually wear a lot of clothes underneath my winter coats and that wouldn't be possible without a coat a size too big.

slowdownimshort ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:04:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom bought my middle school, size 2 self size 12 jeans because I was 12 years old :( I didn't realize why not even a belt was keeping it on until high school

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:10:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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scooby_noob ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:43:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Aren't baby clothes sized by months? Maybe she thought they same applied to kids clothes.

KawaiiTimes ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:06:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Toddler kids are that way, too. 3T clothes are supposed to fit kids that are generally 3 years old. I imagine making the switch from age-sized clothes to standard sizing clothes is hard for a lot of parents (although middle school seems kind of late to make that jump).

slowdownimshort ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:33:43 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I think she wasn't on board with the whole "I'm becoming a woman" thing yet, so, I was left to pull my pants up every few seconds through all of 7th grade

Smump ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:36:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mum loves to buy me clothes even though I'm 19 now. She still forgets I'm not going to be growing into stuff any more.

erevoz ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:27:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Similar situation here. My parents used to buy me shoes which were one size larger when I was a kid, because I'd grow out of them (which was wrong for a thousand reasons but fuck that).

I grew up thinking my shoe size was one size bigger than my foot. I figured out my real size 5 years ago at the age of 27. First shoes that actually fit my foot felt awesome.

CrownWolf6 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:43:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Those amazing jinco jeans

danielisamazing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:23:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

never wore 9/10 pants and a very big bra?

EdFricker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

you need about 3.50

eloquentnemesis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:22:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's this italian grandmother a few replies up in the thread that will take care of that shit for you!

Poplik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:42:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

10/10 with rice.

The_0bserver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:48:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Random rant: why the fuck can't most shops keep inventory of size small / medium for men. There atleast quite a lot of people (not the majority, but pretty much close to the xl class) in the country I live in. :(

ProjectShamrock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:11:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's bad fort those of us that are thin and tall too. My jeans size is like 32x36. I have to buy them online.

The_0bserver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ditto. :(

xuan135 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:04:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She had bigger hopes for you

Henriiiko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:06:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad bought me size 9 gloves when I was 9 years old because he thought that size 9 was meant for 9 year olds. ;_;

Morivallys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:27:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This. There's still clothes packed away somewhere that my mother bought for me as a teenager that I would still not even come close to fitting in. Hell, I'm 26 and she still buys me medium shirts every now and then despite me telling her every single time that I'm a small.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:43:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I read that 3 times super confused until I realized you must be a woman

eliochip ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:06:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eat rice.

vatsan16 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:19:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Guy from Asia here, for me the dialogue between my mother and the shopkeeper went like this.

S: "This size should definitely fit him mam, it looks really good on him."

M: "Okay. Give me two sizes above that. Kids grow up very fast."

S: "Okay sure."

For a very long time I used to look like a scarecrow dressed with such lose clothes :/.

Some of the stuff I got when I was between 10-15, still fit me ten years later.

tommyk1210 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:42:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Size 9 exists... I've only ever seen even numbers ๐Ÿ˜ณ

Help_An_Irishman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:52:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Isn't George Wallace already black?

kitsunevremya ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:17:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mum bought me jeans to last me all the way through childhood. Bought me everything from a size 8 all the way up to a 16 (when I was 10 years old and a size 8)... I still don't fit into the 16s a decade later.

ragonk_1310 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:50:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And she was always worried if there was enough room in the crotch.

abitrelevant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:26:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've never known a 9/10

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:26:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Give it a few more years. Your body will come around.

GV18 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:28:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sorry where are you from? Size 3 is not a thing is Ireland, so I don't know how much of a difference there is between a 3 and a 9.

blackgeorgewallace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:31:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm from the US. There really isn't much difference between a 2/3, aside from that odd numbered sizes are usually marketed towards teenagers.

ichlibejuice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:32:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was 12 my mom bought me an adult L shirt saying I would grow into it. My Pony League Baseball clothes were all adult large.

I am now 26 and have never weighed more than 135lbs. Medium is a little baggy on me.

JeremyArroyo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:32:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You jumped from 8 to 11?

YJCH0I ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:40:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

INB4 "โ€ฆwith rice" jokes.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:08:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So this sagging trend originated from the thrifty logic of mothers.

griggstar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:15:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

have you worn a size 9/11

BackToSchoolMuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:19:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm getting some crazy deja vu from this comment.

Dirtsniffer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:37:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family is the opposite. As a kid I was short and skinny. I gained weight, mostly muscle, in high school and was more of an athletic build than skinny. Senior year of college I gain some weight and am past athletic but not really fat.

My family still buys me Small everything. My older sister (who in high school gained weight and was bigger than me most of that time but now has lost some weight and gained more muscle) buys clothes for me that are a little tight in her. She doesn't understand that she is smaller.

I have to really stress that I wear mediums and with my favorite aunt, I just go to the store to exchange clothes.

Jill-Sanwich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:45:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't even realize that I was actually a size 3/4 and not a size 9 until I was 19. My parents always made me dress in clothes that was way too big. My stepdad because he was creepy and my mom because my body was a bad thing and if anyone could remotely see the outline, I was a slut who wanted to "attract grown men". It was embarrassing that there was no point to even shop for trendy clothes anymore because the sizes they made me wear looked ridiculous on me. I spent the majority of high school in sweats and basketball shorts. I still remember buying clothes for myself after I'd moved out, and putting on a pair of pants that were actually my size and realizing what it felt like to wear clothes that fit.

occupythekitchen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your parents were low on cash and bought something that'd fit for years not for a year

emteereddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You could wear a 9/10 with enough rice

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:15:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My stepdad used to do that... And called me fat. I've never weighed more than 135lbs.

shedidwhat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:48:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

OMG yes. When I was 16 my mom made me wear size 10 tennis shoes "because I was just going to grow." I'm 28 now and still a 7 1/2. Needless to say PE class was miserable that year.

themastersb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not sure if that's the effect of frugal parents. Buying clothes that are too big just in case you grow to fill them rather than needing to buy new clothes.

SoggyFarts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:53 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My wife wears the T-shirt mom bought me in Elementary school to bed. I never got to wear that shit myself. It was always too big until I out grew it.

plop0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:59 on August 26, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:30 on September 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh god yeah, I'm like a size 8 and my step mom made me buy size 12s last year. Not quite as bad as your situation, but God it was embarrassing having to wear those baggy ass jeans to school.

mojayokok ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:52:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

humblebrag (nah, I'm just jealous).

AzazelTheForsaken ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:13:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

If you think not being fat is bragging you might be setting the bar too low.

Edit: nice job ninja editing

StudyHarder7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:33:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is size 9/10 fat? I've been a size 10 in pants since I was 12 and for a small part of that time I was underweight; I've always had a BMI less than 19. Dem hips (and butt) don't lie?

mojayokok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:25:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I called it 'bragging' because she accomplished staying small up to this point. I don't know how old she is but a lot of us start gaining some in our 30's, if she's been able to successfully maintain a size 3 or so then that's really good whether you think so or not. Women would naturally be 'jealous' of her 'success'. Her wording was in a light bragging tone, nothing negative just bringing attn to it. If you're a dude then you have no idea what the hell I'm talking about.

TL:DR. For women maintaining a small size even into your 30's is an accomplishment and we would naturally be envious of such a thing if we haven't maintained. If you're a dude you seriously won't get it.

KellyisGhost ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:49:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I managed to get myself 40lbs too heavy when I was 27. My size 3's still fit fine. However, my body fat was unhealthy.

Fitting into jeans doesn't necessarily mean shit. There was nothing successful about being a 32% bodyfat.

Edit: and men feeling overweight and not liking the width if their pants size is real too. What the hell. They dont get a generic number, they legit see their real size. That seems worse.

mojayokok ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:56:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah that's kind of high but it's hard to imagine you to easily putting size 3's on if you're at a body fat considered overweight. Regardless I would be happy to pop into a size 3 even when my weight is considered 9% too high. I get what you're saying it's honestly. impossible for me to imagine unless we're talking major muffin top, but it doesn't matter what I think. (40 lbs overweight and still wearing a 3 doesn't sound remotely possible unless you're really tall)

KellyisGhost ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:01:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can check my history if you think I'm lying to try to prove a point. It could take some digging as I've been injured for a while. I don't think you understand how different body types can range. Which is why jean size is a stupid way to think of as being successful or unsuccessful. It is all relative.

HigHog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:26:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm a woman and I don't get it either.

jillyszabo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

because I was "just going to keep getting bigger."

Wow, way to give your child huge body issues..

scredeye ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Have you ever tried a 5/7?

RedOakWarrior ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 05:36:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Brag

AzazelTheForsaken ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:54:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So not being fat is enough to brag about now? How low is the bar for you on achievements?

The_Ripper42 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:25:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Try adding rice.

brettf123 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:21:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That sounds like a passive aggressive narcissist trying to pass their body issues onto you

GrassBeGreener ยท 164 points ยท Posted at 05:05:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was way too old by the time I learned about how shirt tailoring is suposed to be. I think it was my brother who got fit and started wearing nicer clothing and was pointing out that the shoulder seam is supposed to go nice and square over the edge or upper edge of the shoulder.. NOT sloppily hanging over the side.

footworshipper ยท 2795 points ยท Posted at 05:16:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm 6'3" and weighed 152 lbs in high school. I have very long legs. But my torso is essentially the same size as everyone I grew up with (my friends, etc) that were my age but shorter.

Until I finally started buy my own clothes, my mother ALWAYS made me buy large shirts because, "They shrink... they're longer and you're tall... you'll grow into it". I finally had to do the research and discovered that after Medium in men's shirts, they only get slightly longer but much wider.

Since I moved out, I have NEVER purchased anything over a Medium, because I got so tired of looking like a tent.

SubcommanderMarcos ยท 1391 points ยท Posted at 07:14:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

GODDAMMIT I'M 24 AND THE SAME HEIGHT AND I ONLY FIGURED THAT OUT LIKE 2 MONTHS AGO

God fucking dammit, all my life buying large because "I'm tall", then I try a medium shirt and it's like why the fuck did I wear entire curtains all this time I look good in this

e: lots of gr8 tips of tall people shops for all my fellow talls who happen to be American, thanks for all the suggestions guys, even if they don't work for me because there's no such mythical entity as tall people shops in my neck of the woods

Pariahdog119 ยท 413 points ยท Posted at 11:01:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Visit a big and tall store. They have a size you won't see in other stores: tall. It's the same size as any other shirt, but longer.

So instead of getting large tents, you can get medium tall shirts.

[deleted] ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 13:03:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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DavidPH ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 13:44:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy fuck never knew this existed

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DavidPH ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 14:01:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's me right now just an 18 year old 6"7' flappy tent

alonjar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:28:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Buy tailored clothes off the internet my friend - they're actually cheap if you order from the right places (usually from asia)

alonjar ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 14:24:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Technically, the size is usually considered "long". So medium long, large long, etc.

If you buy tailored shirts, then it'll be your chest size and then long. 42 long, 44 long, etc. (the number of different measurements for shirts varies, but thats the most important one)

I highly recommend just buying tailored shirts off the internet, you can often get the clothes for no additional cost over shopping at a store - but they're exactly right for you.

Conspark ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:36:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are there any particular websites you recommend?

alonjar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:00:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I like itailor.com (scroll down on the front page to see different things they make). They do jeans and mostly work/dress attire (suits, dress shirts, polos), if you're looking for regular tshirts and other things you can find a lot of different companies using google.

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Moistened_Nugget ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:16:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In my experience you have to be big and tall to shop at those places. I'm 6'5 280 and the smallest shirt looked like a tent on me. I recently discovered Old Navy though, the XL Tall or the XXL Tall Slim fit has a very tailored fit

thorium007 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:03:27 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That has been my experience as well. Its not big or tall, it is big and tall.

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:05:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh man, this is good advice. I went to a Men's Warehouse to get fitted for a jacket and they taught me all about men's shirts. I recommend every fellow find a similar place if for nothing but educational reasons if they get the chance

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:41:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm only 5' 10" but I have very broad shoulders, long arms and a long torso. It's impossible finding shirts in medium that are long enough to not flash asscrack.

Target actually has decently long medium shirts but I have to be careful not to shrink them.

WalropsHunter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:31:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm reading the same thing about old navy and it sounds like I'll be checking them both out soon! I'm also 5'10 and I do have a belly but my shoulders are so broad that if I want to put my arms out like an airplane my undies show.

Okoro ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:47:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wish they had a short and broad store.

imnotsoho ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:14:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Used to be one in Sacramento. Look Here

SpiderPantsGong ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:57:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also Amazon

asmodeuskraemer ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:15:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wish they had these things for women. :( And lane bryant, etc is NOT the same thing.

Pariahdog119 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:17:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Step 1. Get a button down men's shirt.

Step 2. Move buttons to inside.

Step 3. Wear shirt inside out.

Now it's a woman's shirt. Proof: Buttons are on the left.

twistedtits ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:54:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So glad I learned how to sew. I buy my shirts big and tailor them myself. The only thing I was taught that shouldn't be unlearned

cardinal29 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:15 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

THEY DO HAVE THIS FOR WOMEN!!! REJOICE!

Banana, Gap and Old Navy all carry women's tall sizes online.

Sign up for emails, everything is always on sale, sooner or later.

Get their card and use points to buy more stuff!!

Ann Taylor and Loft also carry Tall sizes and send me 40% off emails on the regular

Happy shopping :)

asmodeuskraemer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:03:52 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, they have tall sizes but infrequently tall and plus size and when it's available it's generally pretty ugly stuff. Old Navy has SOME and it sells out fast, even at full price.

Mcquiz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:35:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is this an American thing? I am 6'6 about 190lbs and my shirts are all XL and they fit nicely.

Pariahdog119 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:41:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Probably. Our clothes are made in India to fit hippopotami and our cars are made in Japan to fit midgets. 'Murica!

arleban ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:19:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So true. While I'm also fat, I'm 6' my dad is 5'8" and we have the same length legs. Tall shirts are a godsend.

sdjason ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:54:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This. Large tall is the best size ever!

AstroSatan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:14:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks for the tip!

SosX ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:44:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I need this in my life, so sad big and tall stores don't exist in my country, I'll try to get shit online.

equilax ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:51:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The days of my shirt coming untucked are over!

Mercinary909 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:53:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I really need to do this.

jackster_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:01:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I took my 6'4" 270lb husband to a normal store to buy clothes and they were all to small. I took him to the big and tall stores and the clothes were all too big. He has since gotten down to 238 lbs, and things fit at the normal store, but at the time it was frustrating.

christmaspathfinder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:28:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Finding medium tall sizing has changed my life

billbill17 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:51:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can also buy medium tall shirts online at some regular stores.

Stmpnksarwall ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:07:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also JCPenney and a store called Rural King are brick and mortar places that sell tall sizes. My husband is 6'3" and my step-dad is 6'4", so I'm forever buying LT shirts and coats for them. It's not so much t-shirts they need as it is long sleeve button shirts (like for work). My husband would just roll the sleeves up to his forearms all through high school, because nothing made it all the way to his wrists.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:10:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can get shirts online from Gap and specify tall as well.

_That_One_Guy_ ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:11:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I found tall sweat pants online at Old Navy after more than 15 years of hating sweat pants for leaving 3-4 inches of bare ankle.

aim_at_me ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:08:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Any proper shirt tailor will have length and collar sizes. I had the same issue but mate, shorts are MADE for slim tall men. Just have to get the ones that fit and you'll look boss :)

uuntiedshoelace ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:10:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep, I'm a woman, I'm 5'11" and I never wear bigger than a medium shirt. They only get baggier and less flattering, not longer. :/

phase_deux ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:29:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

6'5" here, 49 years old. Pro-tall-tips: Hit up tall stores and figure out what size really fits you (Hint: Medium-Tall will almost certainly work better for you - cut for longer sleeves and torso), then only buy clothes that really fit you. Otherwise you'll end up like me, with a closet full of crap clothes that either have sleeves too short, or torsos that are too baggy... and that you'll drag that shit from house to house for years until you look at it and realize you never wear it because you can't, fucking, stand how ridiculous it makes you look.

So, yeah, get clothes that fit. And be aggressive about trashing the stuff that doesn't.

P.S. Old Navy, Eddie Bauer, Rochester Big & Tall are your friends.

P.P.S /r/tall for general tall community silliness.

AlteregoIam ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:52:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm the same hight but a little bit heavier. I only buy clothes online from Banana Republic. They have a tall size. Medium or large Tall will fit me a lot better than any regular in store.

VeriTota ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:56:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've fallen in love with duluth trading company. Their stuff is kinda expensive but their long tail t shirts were just what I needed to give me enough length to feel comfortable.

sidebycide ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:10:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

29, just now finding out about this lol

SubcommanderMarcos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:09:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We should start a subreddit for fitting clothes to tall people, like /r/abrathatfits, only for talls.

We could call it /r/tentshopping

sidebycide ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:10 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

lol sounds like were shopping for clothes to cover our boners

jackSeamus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:23:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To add to the suggestions: Asos.com, EXPRESS, and J. CREW in increasing order of cost, all offer slim fits and long shirts of all types. I recommend Asos the most because their stuff is pretty good quality and SUPER affordable (plus, free shipping and free returns depending on which country you're in).

smokin3kgt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:44:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also find and use a good tailor. I wish I'd figured that out when I was 24. You'll be ruined by how well your clothes all fit and it's not that expensive.

FVCEGANG ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:56:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I vary between medium and large. Sometimes medium is just a little too short, while other times it fits like a glove.

glow2hi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:37:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well now that you know about tall shops you could always order online.

Akanderson87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:08 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It sucks for me though, the mediums are too short but the larges are floppy.

a_rucksack_of_dildos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:09 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've been trying to tell my fucking brother this. We're the same height I'm 190 pounds and he's around 170. I wear mediums and he wears fucking extra large and large shirts. He doesn't get it

PhallusPhalanges ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:33 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One solution is to just get super fat. All the stores have tall versions of XL and above! At least where I live.

Whats better anyway. 40 years with pizza every day? Or 70 years with pizza once a month?

mattmillertime ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 11:55:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lulz

DickYeast ยท 79 points ยท Posted at 05:19:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The sentence "they'll shrink" is one I'm well acquainted with. They never shrunk enough to constitute an entire size up, though. I'm both long legged and long torsoed, while mom is both short legged and short torsoed. To her, I might as well be an alien

helgaofthenorth ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:26:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They'll shrink if they're pants and you dry them, though. :(

RiverWyvern ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 09:24:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Reminds me of when my mom came to visit for a week and did my laundry. She only ever got me sweat pants as a kid, so I guess she didn't understand that drying the jeans that fit me for twice as long as they were supposed to would shrink them just enough to make them impossible for me to wear :/

idwthis ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 10:26:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why in the world would your mother only buy you sweatpants? That seems quite odd to me.

Now I'm wondering if you're a dude or a chick, and if she at least bought you dress pants or skirts and dresses for those times when you needed to be dressed up.

I may have follow up questions.

10kbuckets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My older sister was a little slow when it came to fine motor skills, so my mother got it into her head that the combination of the button and zipper on jeans was too complicated for kids. As a result, I didn't own a pair of jeans until I was 11. It was all stretch pants all the time.

I don't know if this was because she honestly believed I would also have a problem with more complex pants, or because she didn't want to make my sister feel bad by letting me wear them first.

idwthis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:13 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ah, okay. Thanks for the explanation!

ichlibejuice ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 12:36:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mericuh

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:07:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait, so when do I have to be worried about pants shrinking?

Antice ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:20:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When you've had too much cake.

helgaofthenorth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm at a height where "regular" women's sweatpants are exactly long enough, but once I dry them I look ready for the flood.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:52:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is this for sweatpants only? Because my jeans are in the dryer right now for the first time in college.

helgaofthenorth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:43 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It depends on a lot of things. If they've been dried before, you're fine. And they may be preshrunk. A lot of people recommend you never dry jeans, because they last longer, but I just buy mine long because no one has time for that. You should be okay.

Good luck in college! Don't forget, you have to go to class. That may sound silly now, but don't forget. :)

scubaguy194 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 07:20:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have a similar problem. It is damn near impossible to find 32long jeans in the UK. Apparently tall people aren't allowed to like keeping their waste line down anymore.

spamjavelin ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 08:28:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I'm a 34 extra short (27 inch inside leg), and that's a complete bugger to find, so apparently shortarses weren't in mind either.

richardlotion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:49:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm a 28 at 6'3 and in the US that is also hard to find.

ichlibejuice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:38:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

belts motherfucker. And slim cut.

richardlotion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:33:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

28 inseam. Slim cut are where it's at but they are usually too long still. I haven't been a 28 waist since elementary school.

ribenamoustache ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:24:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel your pain. I'm 6'5" tall and take a 34 waist with a 36 leg. Fucking nightmare to find jeans in the UK.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:50:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

34x40 reppin.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:41:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus 40? Here I am thinking I was long at 38

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:03:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The pant finding struggle is real. Europe it's not too bad. America only has the reverse size.

hypermadman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:49:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Were do u go shopping because i always see 32 long jeans

scubaguy194 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:02:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Next is the only place I've been able to find some.

hypermadman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:08:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Topman has them as well last time i checked

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:44:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

The problem is they do not make the smaller waist sizes AND with women there's a vanity sizing problem. I used to wear a 4 ten years ago, now 0/2.

I'm at a size 0 Long in gap brands but they start at size 2 of 4 for longer lengths (both long and tall). They've also phased out all xs tall tops and coats so I can't get a top or coat that fits in the arm length from anywhere but j crew at this point.

The_Last_Leviathan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:01:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My husband has the opposite problem, all pants here seem to be made for tall lanky guys (especially now that skinny jeans are in) he wears a 33/32 and has a lot of leg muscle.

scubaguy194 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:09:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's the other issue I have. It means I can't wear straight/skinny jeans in the correct waist size because they're too tight around the thighs. So I can wear loose fit 32s and they look like straight legs or I wear 34 straight legs and they look like tightfits.

IsaacM42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:47:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Have you tried Levi's new 541, they're athletic cut. I powerlift and have big thighs but like a tapered jean. They are perfect

thisshortenough ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:33:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know New Look does them.

Sergiotor9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:45:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had this problem as a teenager, when I started wanting to wear jeans to school, I had already reached 6' but was really thin, the literally only brand that fit me at the time was G-Star RAW. It's a bit expensive (nothing crazy) but they're pretty good quality and I look pretty good on them if I may say so.

Segat1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:14:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I buy allllll my jeans from the US. Old Navy is a godsend. I even have to take up the legs on some of them. 40inch inseams!!!!

killforgold ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:43:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My boyfriend is the same. Just buy online! Topman are great for 32L

nytheatreaddict ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:54:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The boyfriend is 34x36, I think? He wears a lot of shorts so he doesn't have to buy jeans

[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 06:47:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Waffle99 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 11:43:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Worked as an engineer at YKK (zipper company) for a while and one of the textile operators finally enlightened me on this. Most of the time when they make shirts at the factory, they cut them all the same orientation out of the sheets of fabric. Well the Chinese plants decided to use every bit of fabric they can. They stretch the fabric and instead of cutting them all one direction so they all shrink the same way, they cut they randomly. Now they all shrink in wild directions because the orientation of the material is different.

faithle55 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 07:18:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For me, the problem is that if I buy shirts big enough for my neck and body, they still aren't usually long enough. Formal shirts in particular pull out of my trouser waist all the time.

kheltar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:41:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Check different brands. I went to a store and the clerk directed me to a particular brand that was long in the arm/body for the size.

faithle55 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:34:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't generally buy 'brands'. I buy the 'own brand' type - or the ones in the sale.

kheltar ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:45:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The problem with cheap shirts is they fit like cheap shirts. It took a while to upgrade my shirts, but it was worth it. Also once you know what brands work for you, you can keep an eye out for sales.

faithle55 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:06:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've bought expensive shirts too, and they were just as bad. (When I say 'expensive', I mean 'relatively' - I don't spend ยฃ60 on shirts.)

Expensive shirts in my experience wear out just as quickly as the cheap ones - the wash-and-iron cycle and weekly wear kills them just as fast.

I just need fucking shirt manufacturers to stop presuming that people have short bodies.

kheltar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:14:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Quality can vary, but the real win for me was finding a decent brand that fit well for me.

Numiro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:19:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Look in to super slim fit and slim fit, only thing that doesn't look like midget clothes or tents on me.

Or the alternative is to have shirts sown for you, doesn't usually cost that much more and they'll look insanely good.

faithle55 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:33:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I bought two shirts from a far east internet tailor.

The first was fine - although the fabric was a pig to iron.

The second one, purchased with exactly the same measurements, was a different size entirely and too small.

Numiro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:37:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yea it's all about finding the right tailor, I'd try to find a store that offers shirts sown to measurement instead, you'll be paying slightly more for the convenience of always knowing that the shirt will be the way you want it.

faithle55 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:46:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know where you are, but in England hand-made shirts would cost me four or five times what I'd pay for a shirt in Tesco or Matalan.

Numiro ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:50:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Tesco or Matalan.

Sure, because the quality difference is night and day, if you want potatoes you buy potatoes, not buy tomatoes and call them potatoes.

faithle55 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:52:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've dealt with all this. I've bought expensive shirts, they weren't any longer in the body than the cheap shirts.

Ball's in your court.

Numiro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So you've gotten a shirt sown to your measurements and it wasn't a good fit? Bullshit.

faithle55 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Did I fucking stutter?

faithle55 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
  1. I've bought expensive shirts, and they weren't any longer in the body than cheaper shirts. That's in this subthread.

  2. I bought two shirts from an internet tailor, one was the right size, one wasn't. (That's in another sub-thread.) What on earth is so hard to believe?

Numiro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sowing a shirt in your measurements is a guarantee itll fit you, if it didn't fit you, either you measured wrong, or that tailor is a worthless tailor, so go to someone that isn't useless.

faithle55 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're a dead loss, aren't you?

A_Crabbit_Habit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:30:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Old Navy and Hanes both offer shirts in tall sizes on their website. It changesld my husbands world when he no longer had to monitor his tummy.

faithle55 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:30:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not American, but thank you kindly all the same.

Pariahdog119 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:02:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Go to a big and tall store. They have Tall versions of standard sizes that are longer.

faithle55 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:32:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
  1. My complaint is about standard shirts.

  2. Having to take a four hour round trip to the nearest such outlet to me, just to buy a shirt, is not viable.

Waffle99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:44:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You should try out shirt garters for formal wear. The military got me using them and now I feel wrong without them because my shirt is all wrinkly.

cardinal29 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:51 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Land's End carries men's dress shirt in Tall. They have good sales, too.

If that's too pricey, Old Navy has tons of button down shirts in Tall

faithle55 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:04 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks, I do appreciate the help - but I'm not American. Too expensive to import clothes from the US.

ydna_eissua ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 07:18:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have the opposite problem. I'm only average in height (5'10") but I have short legs and a long waist.

A tshirt that fits just right across the shoulders and chest is always too short. Any movement and you can see my stomach.

And dress shirts are similar, get one that fits across the shoulders and chest nicely and I either have to deal with them coming out every time i sit down or lift my arms up, or wear my pants up way too high.

Pariahdog119 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:03:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Go to a big and tall store, get tall shirts.

Waffle99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:46:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeL8mbT9VS8 These things are a godsend for formal clothes.

farmthis ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:16:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Medium, slim fit.

Calvin Klein makes the best button ups for slim fit in my experience. Skinny fit will probably not have the shoulder width.

ichlibejuice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:39:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ted Baker button ups are incredible. I am super fucking skinny but they still fit me well.

peachysomad ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:06:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Large tall is a wonderful size. I believe there are medium talls too, both from AE.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:46:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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Reascr ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:11:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mossimo is honestly one of the best discoveries I've made, being 6'1" and like 220. My body type isn't quite right but they're generally long enough and wide enough to fit near perfect on me

faltzerflame ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:04:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Funny enough it's the opposite for me my mom would buy me more restrictive clothes so I hated that they were tight and stuffy now all my shirts are at least a size to large for me because I enjoy the baggy feeling

96firephoenix ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:05:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a 6'2" 250lb guy, buying shirts that fit in the shoulders is hard... XL fit ok except they are short, but XLT is like a skirt. There's almost a foot of Extra on the tall shirts.

It's not just you.

meltingdiamond ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 08:10:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

...I'm 6'3" and I have a few 2xlt shirts that are much too short. There is no way to add fabric so people like you need to stop complaining and learn to sew.

lordponte ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:22:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is hilarious because literally last month I discovered the same... Ahhh medium tall :) best fit ever

Zemedelphos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:09:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like you wear an extra medium.

Page_Won ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:05:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wear medium tall, sorta the same thing.

Zemedelphos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:16:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lol, sorry. I was making a sort of reference to "Friday After Next". Where they find the thief's lucre and there's an extra medium jersey. One of the characters comments that the owner must be one tall motherfucker.

truckerdust ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:06:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The medium tall stuff is a god send for shirts.

linkbetweenworlds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:07:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yup this, i was 6'3" and 135 in high school wearing larges now im 180 and wearing mediums and still have room.

trollinn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:09:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm a short guy (5'7") and this is the thing most people don't realize about men's sizes, going up in sizes is more about width than height. I wear a medium as I have broad shoulders (though I can fit in smalls usually) and my 6'3" friend wears a medium or large if it's a slimmer fitting shirt. If length is an issue you can usually get a size called medium tall for nice clothes like dress shirts and such.

piiees ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:51:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

pretty much the exact same thing happened to me. 6'3" here also and yet small size shirts fit me perfectly but grew up with parents thinking i needed bigger shirts.

Page_Won ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:03:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sigh, this is so true with me, medium fits perfect, but here's where the sigh comes in, one wash and they're too short. Large is way too big.

MrNolanF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:22:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

100% the same! medium athletic cut tee's make me look amazing. So much different from the Large and Extra large that I had growing up... 6'2" 160 here!

sirlilcodyjr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:19:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This! Exactly this!

purplemoosen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:21:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel you. 6' 2" and 155 pounds I accidentally ordered a large tshirt and found out that large is expected to also be wide but medium is not. Ugh I wish there was a skinny tall store!

CptBeetle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:30:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I've had similar issues. I'm 6'1" and same thing; my legs are long, but my torso is pretty average. My arms are actually short. You know that thing where your arm-span (hand-to-hand) is basically meant to be around the same as your height? Yeah, mine is a good 1-2 foot shy of that.

I also have a longer than average neck.

But anyway, I feel your pain.

Greezy858 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:31:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Kewl story, tell it again! :)

richardlotion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:48:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm the same height but the opposite effect. My inseam is 28 so I have to get LT.

FunkyPete ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:32:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a 6'3 guy with long legs and a short torso, I think I'm similar. The problem is that I have long arms to go with my legs. Medium shirts don't fit across the shoulder and I would have to button the cuffs across my forearms. Do you not have those problems?

Bonobosaurus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:56:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jeez Ma, it's called Tall sizes!

KKalonick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:59:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm 6'2" and 165 lbs. I have to wear dress shirts to work and I wear nothing but slim fit large. It's absolutely wonderful to have so many shirts that fit so well.

jm434 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:00:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Makes me sad as a 5ft 4 man when I walk into a shop and the size Small tshirts go half-way down my thighs. Like goddamit who are all these people with really long torsos?!

Clothes Shopping is a such a chore for us shorts and talls.

NoShameInternets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:22:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same story here. Once I got out and started buying my own clothes, I realized I actually had it in me to be attractive. That was eye-opening.

-Reddit_Account- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:24:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm the opposite, I love wearing right pants and a loose shirt.

I look like a nuclear explosion

jabarr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:28:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have always worn large shirts. The other day I decided to see if medium would work, because my shirts were always too long and I wanted something that fit closer to my waste. So I try on the medium and ITS THE SAME FUCKING LENGTH. What are they trying to assume about our size?!

ichlibejuice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:35:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dude, I'm 6'1 130lbs. Adult Medium are not much longer than Adult S. It really just depends who manufactured the shirt. If a shirt manufacturer isn't dirt cheap, an S will be long enough. (Good clothes are usually longer, because it means they aren't cheap with cloth).

My mother also swears that I am 6'4 even though I'm not even close to that tall.

TheoHooke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:36:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For what it's worth, they don't really get narrower below medium either.

Source: 5'6 and half stick insect.

duelingdog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:02:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here, 6'0", and I always bought larges because of my mom. One day I looked at myself and realized maybe the sleeve shouldn't be at my elbow. :D

_GameSHARK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:02:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The problem is when you're normal width but longer. They make LT, XLT, etc but I've never seen an MT.

AlthMa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:19:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm the same body shape so I'm super into longer cut tees nowadays because they fit well on top but also counter my freakishly lanky legs

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:24:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck, I was so happy discovering this lately, medium is my life now.

TheAdventMaster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:27:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My pants are 34 x 34 usually but I have to make sure they're marked as "thin".

You can still wear larges (mediums were way to small for me, even though I'm thin). Just have to get them in "long" or "thin" size.

Underwater_Grilling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:30:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm 6'4" and I never knew that shirts are made in tall size until I was like 20. I had to buy 2-3xl just to be able to tuck my shirt in and they were super baggy.

Finally found out I'm either a L or xl tall and now my shit fits and I could consider a concealed carry permit.

TheRealBasilisk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:41:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haha I was in exact same position

BLT_Special ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:42:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel this pain. Finding slim fit shirts is the best thing ever.

The_Samsquanchh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:47:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

are you me?

SluggishJuggernaut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:53:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel for you. My problem is similar, in the fact that I need an XL because of my size, but because my torso is disproportionately long, I end up needing more length to tuck in the shirt or at least have it pass my belt, but XXL only goes down an inch at most, so if I go with the XXL to extend it far enough down, I could smuggle my 6 year old in my shirt no problem.

And all comment about Big & Tall stores is fine, but the stuff there are no-name brands. Not much cool. Try JC Penny's, they have decent stuff, and for dress attire, go with Jos A Bank when they have a 3-for-1 deal, because their stuff is quality and you will get your money's worth, and they have tall sizes.

PecDec4life ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:55:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can also buy tall medium or large medium shirts from some companies, which are pretty nice, if the length is an issue

_manlyman_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:55:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shit I am 6'5" but my legs are like your torso like I wear a 28 length pants buying shirts suck so hard for me.

Sean-Vicious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:22:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hate that shit, my work makes me wear one of those shirts. Their goal is to look professional but it just looks ridiculous when im walking around work in a parachute looking shirt tucked into my damn pants!

KenNakajima ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:24:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh that's good to know. I've lost a little weight recently but I have a long torso so I kept buying large because I didn't want it to be any shorter. Time to go try on a medium I guess.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:25:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am your opposite! I am 6'3" with a VERY long torso and average sized legs. Finding shirts that are long enough for me is annoying. I definitely haven't weighed 152 pounds in a long time though. (Right now I am more like 250.)

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:29:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm guessing American sizes are different. I'm 6'1" and definitely need a large (sort of skinny but broad shoulders)

badgarok725 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:30:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The sleeves definitely get longer, so it makes it even worse

shitterplug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Those long tshirts thugs like to wear are a godsend for tall guys.

Agarax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:58:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This. Once I discovered tall sizes for t-shirts, I never went back.

GaarDnous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:58:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My cousin has the opposite problem - he's 6'6", with legs that are on the tall side, but not unheard of, and a very tall torso. The problem being that, after a medium, men's shirts don't get much longer, just wider.

RiverwoodHood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

hmm that hasn't been my experience with medium shirts. I am 6'-6'1 and slender, and I can pull off a large but medium is like wearing a kids shirt

DirectorChick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom said the same stuff! Shirts never shrunk a whole size. I never understood why she wanted me to look like a bag lady.

YouandWhoseArmy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm 5'7" and my parents still get me medium shirts (like they did when I was a kid since I wasn't the shortest but not the tallest). I wear a small. If they make extra small, those can fit even better (American apparel).

People have a lot of trouble with height and fit.

Djeheuty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Was 6'2" and 145lbs junior and senior hear of high school and mom did the same thing. I didn't figure it out til about 25 and shortly after my metabolism slowed down and I finally jumped up to 185lbs between then and 30 so large shirts actually fit now.

HarithBK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

this is true i am about the same lenght but long torso there is a special letter marking for shirts with long torsos. which is really logical if you think about it. (people who get fatter needs a bigger tube not a longer one while a normal weight person with a long torso should need the same size tube)

Ktopotato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:53:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My husband recently went shopping by himself and got 2 new shirts in a large... for some reason. He wears a medium/small. I guess he thinks he's gained weight or something, but... yeah, he looked a bit like one of those kids from the 80's who wore shirts that might have fit their dads.

penguinsreddittoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:19:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes! I had the same thing, always buying L, even after I lost weight.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I used to work with a guy that was 6'6" and mostly torso. He would wear XXXL dress shirts for a catering job and the sleeves only came about halfway down his forearm.

PowerfulDinoSlayer ยท 2082 points ยท Posted at 04:33:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

MINE TOO.

I'm a size 6 and the woman buys me XL women's clothing. It's literally like I'm wearing a sack and she will be like OMG PERFECT FIT!

Wut.

DickYeast ยท 232 points ยท Posted at 04:36:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm a size 2 or 4 teen. Mom likes to buy me XXL childrens, which is made to fit fat kids, or size 8.

It's super confusing to be led into a changing room where everyone else is eight while your mom insists everything will fit. Like.... These jeans are too short and too wide???? How did you pull this off.

blackgeorgewallace ยท 153 points ยท Posted at 05:02:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This sounds very familiar. It wasn't until I received some well fitting hand me downs that were in women's sizes that she realized "Oh. My daughter wears women's clothes now." I'm not a mother but I imagine it's hard to come to terms with realizing your baby girl is wearing adult clothes. I commented higher up about how later on she was buying me clothes that were four sizes too big because I was "growing so much." She was bad about clothes and bras with me, but got over that with a little time, and a couple of awkward years for me.

DickYeast ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 05:13:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ooh, bras are the one area she goes too small in. Poor mom, I'm her youngest and she just can't take any aging.

blackgeorgewallace ยท 84 points ยท Posted at 05:25:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep, my mother actually would buy me sports bras because "You won't like regular bras they're uncomfortable." I think she was hoping I would wear kids jeans and UNC t-shirts forever. I had to have some awkward conversations with her along the lines of, "I found some cute blouses that I would like to wear, but unfortunately I cannot wear them without a well fitting bra." She was receptive it just took a little time as well as me initiating the awkward convos.

wickedbadnaughtyZoot ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 06:16:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom cried a little when she gave me some lip gloss to wear when I was 14 and going to my first Sadie Hawkins dance with a gaggle of other awkward girls in modest, long dresses. It's hard to see your little one preparing to leave.

qwertykitty ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 05:46:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm medium/large busted (slowly grew from B cup freshman year of high school to DD my senior year of college, with only a 10 lb weight gain) and I've always found normal bras way more comfortable and supportive than sports bras. Maybe she was trying to keep boys' attention away from you or something.

DickYeast ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 06:03:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lmao in freshman year I was a solid B and then the summer after that I skyrocketed into DDs. I thought my poor mom was gonna have a nervous breakdown.

themusicliveson ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 06:27:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was a C cup by 5th grade and I think my Mom literally thought it was black magic or something.

RiverwoodHood ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:02:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

naw, probably just non-organic cows milk

[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 13:57:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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themusicliveson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:28:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks?

zpeacock ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:05:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

๐Ÿ˜

JillyHitz ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:29:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My poor Mom just didn't know how to deal. She was a B cup, and I hit D cup by 16. A girl in chorus who sat behind me told me, "Your bra hook shouldn't be up between your shoulder blades. Your bra is too small."

Blew my mind.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:02:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom doesn't believe in cute underwear. She says it encourages promiscuity. She'll buy stuff from VS now, after years of begging, but everything is nude or black and t-shirt style.

I don't blame her though. The way she grew up was very 'needs not wants' oriented, and looking pretty was not important at all. Sports was the primary focus of her family- still is. Also, my sister wears +2 cup sizes leopard print bras, and we all know how she turned out

wickedbadnaughtyZoot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:05:13 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She may be of the mindset "you don't need sexy underwear until your honeymoon, and then maybe the next dozen years, depending on the numbers of squalling spawn", a mindset not uncommon a few years ago.

Angsty_Potatos ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 07:06:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm 28 and I still catch shit any time I wear a bra other than a sports bra around my mom I've always been curvy, but the DD's are a new ish development for her.

All i get is "your boobs are going to fall out of your top!"

Ma. I assure you. They are strapped in tight. Not going anywhere. I cannot help that they are huge...

cardinal29 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:48:24 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Finding out that I was a DDD from /r/abrathatfits was mindblowing. And the clothes fit so much better, now, too!

RiverwoodHood ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 15:01:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

go on...

[deleted] ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 09:08:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Dolentrean ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:35:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Because a person shouldn't have to be uncomfortable because someone else is cheap.

DickYeast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, we're not exactly a high-income family.

scandium1 ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 06:04:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As someone who works specifically to fit clothes I can't begin to explain how important it is.

Always wear clothes that fit you and are the correct length, not only do you look better but you feel amazing.

TheForgottenOne_ ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 06:18:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I find it is almost impossible to get shirts that are long enough. They just mostly get wider and wider instead of just longer.

madnesscult ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:36:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Get the bigger shirts that are long enough then take them to a tailor for fixing the rest.

SimonPlusOliver ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 06:50:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You think I'm made of money?

madnesscult ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 07:06:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

You'd be surprised at how cheap a lot of simple alteration can be, and how much of a difference it makes in your appearance when you've got well-fitting clothes.. Tailoring can make clothing look many times better, and not just in suits

SimonPlusOliver ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:22:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How cheap?

madnesscult ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:05:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Depending on the alteration and the tailor, $10 or less for some services, others pricier. I would look into tailors in your area. If you've got decent quality clothes having them tailored can be totally worth it.

thesunscreen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:34:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Tried to have sheets made for an odd sized cabin bed they wanted $600. I took up sewing as a hobby.

WalropsHunter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:35:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Having something made versus having pants or shirts taken in is completely different cost wise.

madnesscult ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Like u/walropshunter said, getting something made is vastly different in effort and cost than making alterations. I'm suggesting u/simonplusoliver could get some (good quality) nice shirts taken in, so that they actually fit, not get some bespoke clothing.

As an example, here's the price list from a tailor near me (but it varies from city to city and tailor to tailor)

  • Shorten sleeves on a dress shirt: $19
  • Shorten sleeves on a jacket: $23 (without buttons) to $28 (with buttons)
  • Take in the body of a jacket: $40 (two seams) to $52 (three seams)
  • Take in a dress shirt: $20
  • Adjust the shoulders of a jacket: $35
  • Hem a skirt or a dress: $14.50
  • Hem a pair of jeans or pants: $10
  • Take in a sheath dress: $45

It can make all the difference in how your clothes look if they're tailored to fit you. Many women will get jeans tailored in the waist or hem, and even shirts can really benefit from tailoring. I wouldn't bother with it for fast fashion or cheap pieces, but if you've got some good quality clothes I would highly recommend it.

EmeraldIbis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:06:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

"Oh, you know, just a couple of hundred dollars. Nothing really."

Edit: THE QUOTE MARKS INDICATE SARCASM! Fuck me, do I really have to make it this fucking obvious?

mezofoprezo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:52:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I downvoted you because you sound like Bojack Horseman.

EIN_FLAMMEN_MEHR ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:33:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

/s marks sarcasm.

EmeraldIbis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:01:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, I know /s can be used to mark sarcasm. That doesn't mean every single thing ever said without /s is deadly serious. A key aspect of sarcasm is subtlety, which is completely crushed if you have to flag it up so blatantly every time you use it.

idwthis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:45:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

True. However, in this context using quotation marks on your comment makes it seem as if you are quoting the person you replied to - or paraphrasing what they said (or quoting paraphrasing others who answered the question of "how cheap?" actually) - and implies that taking a few items of clothing to a tailor/seamstress for alterations would cost an arm and a leg.

Obviously they didn't say this, nor come close to implying it, even. In fact, it was the opposite.

I'm sorry, but for me, it seems you've fallen victim to a case of /r/UnnecessaryQuotes. We'd all probably would have found it easier to read it as sarcasm on the first go if they just hadn't been used.

Edit: fixed typo. Added a little clarification. Forgive me I'm half asleep.

EmeraldIbis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:12:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

or quoting paraphrasing others who answered the question of "how cheap?"

This was actually kind of my intention. Because, taking items of clothing to be custom taliored is certainly not 'cheap' in my definition of the term.

hrehbfthbrweer ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:23:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Learn how to sew yourself! Lots of alterations aren't difficult and don't take very long to do once you've had a bit of practise.

SimonPlusOliver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:29:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's not a bad idea!

Nixxxy279 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:00:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Learn to sew

scandium1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:58:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They should get longer as well. Clothes are graded, so a size up is larger everywhere. Is this a problem you have with all brands?

I always suggest to go for length that's right and to take in any excess. Its really common to do

TheForgottenOne_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:47:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Most of the time, Size ups are mostly just wider with a little tiny bit more length.

cardinal29 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:21 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

All over this thread: Old Navy, Banana, Gap, Eddie Bauer, Land's End

All carry tall sizes online

too_much_feces ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:06:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm 6'3" with a normal torso and fairly long legs buying shorts/pants is the biggest pain in the ass around I either buy ones that fit my waist or buy ones that go below my knees and I have to wear a belt so tight it constricts blood flow. It doesn't help that I don't have an ass either.

scandium1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:33:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Where I work the majority of suits come as a set and usually the set doesn't fit perfectly. I always tell customers the throusers are easy to tailor. If you buy good quality or mid range, then I would suggest going to get them tailored. It might cost a bit as they may need to reconstruct them, so hence buying good quality so they last longer?

What size do you usually wear and what's your body tipe? If you don't mind me asking...

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Any tips for finding well fitting clothes?

scandium1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:52:35 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The best one is always make sure you're in the correct size. When buying something new and you're not sure of the size then try a few on.

Getting to know your body type is good because then you know what suits you. But I feel like for men the shapes and styles are all quite similar, it's all about the correct size.

Jarvizzz ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 06:22:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My fiance is the opposite. She puts on clothes that fit perfectly and she's like "I don't like it, it's too tight, it squeezes my fat out the seams." She's 5'5" and 125 lbs. She's got body issues. And everything I say to address her issues is mean and judgemental. Idk what to do. Idk how much longer I can deal with it.

bodymessage ยท 98 points ยท Posted at 07:08:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Fiance.... idk how much longer i can deal with it." Sounds like you should reevaluate some things

orange_jooze ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:02:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not everyone is an asshole enough to just dump their SO because they have insecurity issues.

French__Canadian ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 14:26:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lol that's not the issue. The issue is he's already planning to divorce when he's not even married yet.

thesunscreen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:32:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're right but is it fair to him to hand hold her for the rest of his life? Op just tell her she's beautiful every time she says that. Or start doing the laundry and wash all of her clothes in hot water and put them in the dryer.

eyepatchOwl ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:19:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a person who has a girlfriend who believes she can't be beautiful, the only thing that my telling her she's beautiful does is convince her I'm biased and blind.

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:05:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sorry for being that girlfriend. I really am trying, but what you gotta understand is that what you're saying flies in the face of years of hearing the opposite. And I've been lied to before about it. And maybe you are temporarily blinded to the truth. And I know what I see in the mirror.

Disclaimer: I'm not this guy's gf, I'm just saying I know what being in that mindset is like

eyepatchOwl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:21:44 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't mean to phrase it like I was complaining. I was trying to inform sunscreen that the reality isn't that simple. As I'm sure you know, hearing your beautiful isn't enough to change your mental image of yourself. You gave some good tips on giving impactful compliments.

thesunscreen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:57:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ok? You have a unique perspective. As you can plainly see we're clueless frustrated men, what would you like to hear?

[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:58:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't want to really hear things, so much as experiencing them. Like, a big winner would be when I'm getting naked, to just stare at me with a smile and give a breathy "wow..." Or kissing on the couch, stop for a moment and cradle my face and tell me you love staring into my eyes.

Also, be very specific with compliments. Don't just say "you're beautiful". Tell me what part of me you think is beautiful and why it's beautiful to you. Example: "I love your hair, it's always so soft and smells so good". This helps affirm that it's not just platitudes and that I actually am special to you.

Finding things that are affirming in their own right is helpful, too. Like solving a puzzle together, putting together IKEA furniture, going hiking, etc. Anything that proves her capabilities without depending on words to say it. Because words can be deceiving or untrue. Just don't tell her you switched the game to easy mode so that she could win ๐Ÿ˜‰

thesunscreen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:18:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you for that. I'm going to file this away for the next time I'm serious about someone. I always say wow when I see a woman naked for the first time, because it's just such an amazing experience.

If you want some insight into men, and not all men obviously, but many. Watch his eyes when you take your clothes off, if he looks at you like he just got the best Christmas present ever, know that he's sincere. Don't expect compliments on your hair, most of the time when you wake up and get out of bed we think that's the best you ever look.

If you want to illicit a reaction, try going commando. Unless you never wear them then try wearing a sexy pair of underwear, this is really only relevant in a long term relationship. A sexual rut is the worst thing for a man, aside from being cheated on. For a man, less is more - usually less clothing. Sexy lingerie and expensive outfits are nice, but most of the time a smile, and only a smile will get you the reaction you want.

If he's working on a project and sweating his nads off ask if you can help. Even if it's just to bring a drink it's better than sitting in the house in the AC, the couple who sweats together stays together.

M3nt0R ยท -25 points ยท Posted at 08:49:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

3rd degree burns.

partanimal ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 07:14:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Have you tried talking to her about it? Like, "I love you and think you're beautiful. By any standard, you are in great shape and look amazing. I understand you don't always see yourself that way, so what can I do to help you see yourself the way I and the rest of the world sees you? Or, when you get self-conscious, would it be helpful for me to remind you that I think you look incredible, and then for me to shut the hell up?"

Jarvizzz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:40:38 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes. That would be the "everything I say to address her issues" part.

partanimal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:09:00 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So what does she say when you ask her how she would like you to respond?

Cobra800089 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 07:06:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Have you tried talking to her friends or family? If she won't hear it from you maybe she'll listen to someone else?

M3nt0R ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 08:49:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait till they get married. Their sizes will grow more than the Grinch's heart.

[deleted] ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 11:17:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Monogamy is the enemy

WHATTHEFUCKAREPANTS ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 11:28:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't even... What??

Montuckian ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 06:49:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"HERE, TRY THIS BURKA!"

M3nt0R ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 08:51:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hillary, I'm not supposed to hang out with you.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:49:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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PowerfulDinoSlayer ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:08:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm 35.

And married.

And I have a kid.

Those days....over. Lol

Sonja_Blu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:45:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I used to be quite thin and people always did this to me for some reason. I've been everything from a size zero to a twelve, but when I was in the 0-6 sort of range people would always insist on giving me bigger sizes. I'm a true hourglass, my waist is 10" smaller than my hips and boobs, so I need something that comes in at the waist or I look like a sack. Loose clothes are not going to do me any favours. I don't know why people have this weird obsession with thinking super baggy clothing fits properly.

smuckola ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:45:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Did she grow up in the great depression, where people made their clothes out of flour sacks?

PowerfulDinoSlayer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:06:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not even close! My mom had me at 18. I'm 35. Growing up she was super into fitness and Id come home from school to her prancing around in a bikini. She had more tiny spandex dresses than Kelly Kapowski.

vonlowe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mine would do the same as well...

droidtron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:42:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe she thinks you're David Byrne.

cubalibre21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:46:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Last Christmas my mom bought me a pair of XXL pajama pants. At best I wear a large. I don't understand why she bought them so big.

MushroomToast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:17:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

OMG PERFECT FIT!

That was pretty fuckin funny.

Dangerdave13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:19:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The you can't cheat in these trick.

Angry__Old__Man ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:44:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to wear burlap sacks for clothes because life was hard back then!

BeerofDiscord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:58:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

wow I thought I was the only one...

BluesFan43 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:26:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hiding you.

Gonzobot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How big was she at your age? Many women never ever get over dressing up their little doll of a girl.

PowerfulDinoSlayer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am frequently told that when she was 35, she weighed 107 lbs after having 3 kids.

She had an ED as a teen and a seriously jacked up relationship with her body. Now that I'm thinking about it this all makes really good sense.

She is a very loving woman but so screwed up.

FrankieAK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:57 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom does this too :(

I am actually overweight but not by much. And she will buy me xxl clothes. That could fit two or three of me. And then tells me I have a flat ass.

Bitch, I have a fabulous booty.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:52 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Literally died at "wut"

networknewjack ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

...what are these sizes? You have a six inch waist?

lil_bower45 ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 05:29:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Women's sizes are not the same as men's, lol. A size six doesn't equate to any actual/real world measurement, like say, a size 32 pant for men

blackgeorgewallace ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:28:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We are ladies. Mostly Americans I assume. The sizes don't make a lot of sense.

mastelsa ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:37:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Women's sizes are completely subjective and differ from brand to brand. They do not really correlate with any objective measurements of any body parts. As you might imagine, this means that shopping for well-fitted clothing is somewhat of an arduous and time consuming task.

madnesscult ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:38:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In the US a size six equates to a 28-29" waist, iirc. I've got a 26-27" waist and wear a size 4 generally. Women's sizes usually run from 0 to 12 at even-numbered intervals (odd numbers are juniors sizing) and anything above that are plus sized.

PowerfulDinoSlayer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:11:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Welcome to the nonsensical world of lady sizing.

TaterNbutter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What size does she wear?

TheForgottenOne_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She didn't want to buy you a bunch of new clothes every year. So she trys to convince you that it is how it should be.

PowerfulDinoSlayer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:07:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She does this to me still! I've been buying my own clothes since I started working at 15! I'm 35 now and have been financially independent for a loooonnngggg time.

Pappyballer ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 05:34:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

literally like

Nice

Amandyr3w ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 05:21:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom was the same way. She said bigger clothes makes you look skinnier. If I decided to venture out and wear something tight she would make me look at myself from behind and point out the rolls under my bra and stuff to make sure I wouldn't wear it.

DickYeast ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 05:26:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"that looks too tight. Your stomach hangs out over that" I own a uterus of course I have extra fat there.

"Well... It looks like you have love handles too." I have violin hips. I could be butt-ass naked and my hips would still look like that.

stephhhhhhhhhhh ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 06:28:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I never knew violin hips were a thing til I read your comment! I've always just assumed I had some awkward defect where I couldn't build up muscle on my hips. Well this is great to hear :P

DickYeast ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:33:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I have wide hip bones, a absolutely SHREDDED ass from running, and thick thighs. Out, in, out.

flybaiz ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 10:22:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ohhhhhhhh shit this has a name!? Damn! Can confirm. Have violin hips now at size 10, had them years ago at size 18, had them fewer years ago at size 2.

:o TIL.

DickYeast ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:15:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was sure I was a freak of nature and unwomanly.

Meh.

At least my ass will always look sculpted.

flybaiz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:53 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pssh, violin hips are better, I'm sure. They give the hands a nice little cubby to slide into for better...handling of things :)

If your ass is sculpted the rest of you must be sculpted too. Be proud lady.

DickYeast ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:37:21 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lmao, I didn't say it was sculpted, just that it looked it. I'm generally comfortably soft.

flybaiz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:27:10 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, that's right, I'm sorry :p You said your ass is:

absolutely SHREDDED

Please forgive me.

I guess you need to do the Bounce a Quarter test, really, for science.

DickYeast ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:03:31 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh shit, I've been caught.

noxtenebris ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 07:55:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't even realise that having violin hips was a thing until right now and I have them (and until now hated them). Thank you so much for leaving this comment.

sweetestmuffins ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 05:23:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Was just about to say this. Oversized dresses with oversized t-shirt underneath, oversized shorts, shoes 2 sizes too big (for when you wear 3 inch thick socks) with a shawl over it. It was almost like my mother didn't want me to look decent.

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:13:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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wellheynow ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:18:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe she wanted to double her shoe wardrobe options

sweetestmuffins ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:35:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Omg same thing. I'm an 8 but she'd buy me 10, 11, and xl sandals. I was always ungodly thin, like a pole... but she'd buy me those GIANT flowy gaudy rhinestone print tops that fat old wannabe hippy ladies wear... I could wear it as a dress, but she's make me wear sweatpants under it (size lg, but 5 inches too short.)

Bamres ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 05:26:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I still get this from my dad when he says i buy all my clothes too tight now. Nah they just fit. I got some pants that were bunching hemmed and he said they looked fine. He doesnt even dress that bad which is weirder

Eternal_Faggot ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 05:35:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother always insisted on buying clothes that were way too large for me. Huge blow to my self-esteem when she always made me go up a size. Probably was just projecting her eating disorder.

dietdrpepper1 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:27:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mine did the same thing. Recently I was wearing a more fitted t shirt around her and she was like "wow that shirt looks so tight!" It double checked with my boyfriend and a friend and they both agreed it was totally normal looking.

TheSilentRinger ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:36:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So relatable omg. I would be like size large tshirts when I was 12-15. I've gained 40 lbs since then and the clothes still don't fit me. Thank god I realized what was happening before I kept embarrassing myself and looking homeless

DickYeast ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:40:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Let us pour one out for the fellow skinny-but-long teens wearing size larges

It's okay to try on other sizes.

redryder749 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 05:40:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Up vote for ragamuffin :)

t33m3r ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:34:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If my child was a DickYeast I'd want to air it out as much as possible too. Just sayin'

DickYeast ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:38:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Actually, my username came from a failed pickup line I tried to tell a boy I was running a relay race with at 4AM

Get it right.

t33m3r ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:46:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My bad. I thought you were the real deal. You're not a DickYeast! You're a phony!

Hey guys! This person ain't a dick yeast! They're a phony! A real phony!

DickYeast ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:49:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No! No! Wait! You know how yeast makes bread rise? Well, I'm yeast! But like..... For your dick!

See?! I'm the real deal!

t33m3r ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:57:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sorry DickYeast. While it's true you've given me a rise in the past, my new wife ExpirationDate not only made my dick baguette hard, I feel like every day I just get harder and will never be soft again. I think that's true love. This bread will never soften again.

DickYeast ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:59:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But babe! If we mix it up with a threesome and bring in FrenchToastEgg we can soften you right back up!

Just give me a chance to make you rise again!

t33m3r ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:03:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hmm, I'm intrigued! But I will want my wife ExpirationDate to be a part of it too. I'll have to talk her into it though. She's had relationships with other eggs in the past and they ended in a real stink.

DickYeast ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:07:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Come on, ExpirationDate and I don't work well together. It's like I just die the second she comes onto the scene.

You don't have to tell her, shell never even know.

t33m3r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:17:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I guess I could just this once... We've been having a lot of political fights lately. She won't let Twinkie into our home. She doesn't want to get near Twinkie or even touch him. I think it's kind of racist so maybe I can do an orgy especially if theres room for my buddy? I want to make the point that #snacklivesmatter. I think my wife ED might be racist because she seems to fuck up a lot of other foods for no reason.

DickYeast ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:20:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Of course. I totally understand. You just need a real woman in your life who lifts you up, not brings others down.

How bout you bring your buddy over and we can all relax and talk things over a nice beer. I make it myself.

t33m3r ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:35:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds naughty :) I'm open to this. And so are my buns. Beer sounds like something that could soften me up before I get a rise out of you, just like old times. I'll just have to try to lose ED in the freezer or something. Will meat you later at your place?

DickYeast ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:38:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Of course. I've been kneading something like this.

superiosity_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Exchanges like this are what makes Reddit amazing. Thank you both.

DickYeast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:25:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'll do a weird blend of a bow and a curtsey because I feel overly formal curtseying and yet neckbeardy while bowing

spidmunk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:27:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

6ff6ffuuufzguf7gufuxuocccucihicsyu7suu7 to get Cy 9xhiczx

DickYeast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you okay?

spidmunk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

im so sorry must have pocket typed that lol

psychictrouble ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:31:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was forced to wear underwear that was waaaaaaay too big because my mom was convinced we were the same size. It was so uncomfortable.

DickYeast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:37:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mom always made me buy bikinis that were so big I looked like I was wearing a diaper :( I feel you(r underwear)

PyBerg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This was my mom with shoes. I was in high school and she was still questioning if I should buy a size up...

notLOL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:43:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How'd you get a rich sister-in-law?

DickYeast ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:51:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My older sister went to a private college and started fucking a doctor's daughter, while also getting a degree in environmental policy and networking so well that a couple companies begged her to work for them.

Guess which one of us is the family disappointment.

notLOL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:54:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm glad I asked.

Guess which one of us is the family disappointment.

My guess is your dad.

DickYeast ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:56:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

...you're actually right my dad is his family disappointment cause he left the church and married a whore

notLOL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wish I was this in tune with my dates. I usually just sweat a lot.

So what kind've job are you looking for? Maybe I have one lying around that you'll fit into perfectly. (I'm not a recruiter)

DickYeast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:15:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, I'm sorry to disappoint as usual, but I'm the disappointment because I have no clue what I want to do with my life

notLOL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:23:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just do stuff with computers. It's the future

DickYeast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:27:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
  • frantically taking notes *

Wait, should those notes be on the computer?

notLOL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:36:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I usually use paper pad. Being in software product support, I actually don't fully trust those things.

My title isn't glamorous so I just say 'computers'. I knew a theoretical physicist who described his job as sudoku and never got into the boring details.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had the opposite problem. My mother was convinced all clothes were too big on me.

shamelessornot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:51:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ragamuffin! Oh the memories!

DickYeast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:54:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is ragamuffin a nostalgia thing now? Shit.

I looked uh, totally whack yo. (I'm keeping up with the youth)

shamelessornot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:09:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom and grandma used to say it.

DanielJim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:51:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have The opposite problem, my mom likes to buy me tight clothes and is always complaining that i buy The wrong size, i always buy medium, for me it fits perfectly i do not look like a douchebag with tight clothes and i feel comfortable, she likes to do that because i go to The gym but i do not like to be like those guys with tight clothes.

boyrune4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Because comfort > fit. Loose clothes are comfortable but you can get the same level of comfort with a good fit that also looks good. Same logic applies when your parents cover you from head to toe in mildy cold weather.

MadeSomewhereElse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel you. I had the same issue. I was a swimmer with a swimmer build and I wore pleated khakis all through high school.

freeagentk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I recently learned how good it feels to actually fit into your clothing. Jesus, that aunt is an angel.

Sammiesam123988 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:58:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family always did the opposite and tried to make me wear stuff that was a size too small. It was awful

theHangedGod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:03:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents did this with shoes.

At some point I had to say, "Mom, I'm 26, I don't think I'll grow into these."

renegadegrey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:11:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your mom was probably who forced me to take a bigger medium SAPI plate instead of a size small one. For the rest of the time in Iraq I wore body armor that was too big for me, making me look like a turtle. With size small body armor it looked like it was made for me. Like a model soldier. The body armor specialist was like, WTF did she give you a big SAPI plate for, I can't fit this to your body. Well you are getting deployed so there is no time to switch out now. She screwed me over big time. People think that just because you are taller than they are, you are size large.

DickYeast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:16:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly, mom would.

JWAxeMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:17:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am now instantly grateful my mom had good style. I used to hate going shopping with my parents. Now I miss my mom's sense of style hAha

mldaniels005 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:31:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom does that too. I usually wear a large and my mom will buy me clothes that are like XXL or bigger and I always look like I'm wearing a tent.

Dorfalicious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom did this. It 'fits' if it's loose. I love my mother like no one else on earth but I'm a size small. I don't need a large. Yes I have breasts, I inherited them from you. I'm not ashamed of my body and wearing clothes that fit don't make me look easy/bad/slutty etc.

rbz90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe because I'm an insecure asshole but if my SIL or anyone else pulled me aside and said those words to me I'd take them as condescending and tell her to go eat a dick.

DickYeast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:40:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My sister in law is very sweet and she didn't say it in those exact words, actually. I'm the asshole here.

rbz90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:42:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh I see. I'm projecting again haha.

italian_spaghetti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So I have always been heavy and my wife has not. Her mom buys us appropriate close for our kids and my mom assumes they need three sizes heavier.

butterkoala ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:42:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought I was super fat for most of middle school because my mom would always buy XL for me. I was a medium for most of those years...

chrissietherese ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:44:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom did this, but also with shoes. I wear the same size shoes I did as a 10 year old (20 years ago). That caused blisters.

SmytheOrdo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

dude are you me? After my mom moved away I rebought my entire closet.

DDfnord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:01:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mine did this, but because I'm fat. Because you can hide a house under a circus tent apparently. My mother has no idea how to dress for our size.

JoeJacob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:12:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother is the same! I have a lean figure but I'd always be told that a shirt that comfortably hugs me is too small! I need to be wearing parachutes before she's happy normally.

ToBeReadOutLoud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Am I a bad sister-in-law for not doing that?

My SIL and I don't really have a relationship than would make taking her shopping for clothes not incredibly awkward, though.

She's a bit of a tomboy and just started getting into makeup, but instead of going on Pinterest or YouTube for products, she's starting with the cheap "30 weird colors of eyeshadow for $10" strategy we all remember from middle school. I'm not going to take her to Sephora and force $30 lipsticks on her, but maybe for Christmas I could give her some drugstore palettes and decent brushes so she stops using those little sponge stick things that come with the shadows.

DickYeast ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:46:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair, my SIL and I are incredibly close because of how much we hang out during summer while my sister is working up north. Decent brushes would be a sweet gift though, and maybe slip a good youtuber to watch into a conversation

Zardif ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother from 0-15 years old made me wear tight jeans because if they had any sort of looseness they were gangster jeans. It was awful because I was a fat guy and no one wants to see a far guy in tight jeans.

ronalisaperreti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Crazy thing is, for me its the opposite. My mother is small, smaller than me, but I was always her baby. The biggest problems were the bras she'd buy me. I'm a D cup and have been since I was about 12. She's a C cup and basically refused to believe that I was larger and all the bras she bought me were too small. They were always visible through my clothes and annoying because of how much i had to adjust them all the time.

GrandMa5TR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:19:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They have to buy less clothes that way. Your mom just took it a little far.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:19:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wear baggy clothes because they sometimes shrink in the wash and I like to get my moneys worth. Also being 6'6" length

BarbedWireBlanket ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:23:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad's like this with suits. If he's not swimming in it, it's too small.

Drpickless ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:37:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like an awesome sister. Moms will be moms no fault there, but cherish your sisters kindness.

johnbutler896 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:39:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yo momma was dressin you like a pimp playa

I_Heart_Squids ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:40:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom was that way about herself. She's 130lbs, and for years she was convinced she should be wearing a XXL. Sometimes it was so bad she looked like a homeless bag lady. It broke my heart, because I knew she lost all her confidence after going through cancer and this was a manifestation of that. She completely stopped taking pride in herself, and just tried to cover herself up. It took her about a decade, but she finally got out of that funk and it makes me really happy to see her taking pride in herself and feeling confident again.

Mcian912 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:43:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Upvoting for awesome use of "ragamuffin"

EmberRayne89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:46:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh my god I thought I was the only person in the world that went through this.

I'm 5'2 and I've always been TINY she'd buy me some 12 14 16 pants and large shirts I always looked ridiculous and I got tortured at school for it.

Away_She_Went ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:47:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

OMG I seriously don't understand this. In middle school my mom insisted I was a size L but it wasn't until my 10th grade year I realized I could wear a size S. Literally WTF

Also she bought me size 8-9 shoes that I would eventually "grow into". I'm 5'3 and a size 7 at most

DickYeast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:56:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ha, my mother bought me a pair of size 9 boots when I wore size 6. I got her to return them by kicking my leg up and watching the boot go flying off.

oddpotatobandito ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:59:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly this. It also doesn't help that for most of my life, I have been so skinny people thought I was anorexic.

Koras ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:00:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mum was always convinced that my legs are several inches longer than they actually are. She used to wonder why I ruined the bottom of my trousers so quickly, I just assumed I was doing something wrong, turns out they were just constantly dragging along the floor...

twotimestacotuesdays ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:10:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad, bless his heart, loves to buy my sister and myself (also a girl) clothes for Christmas. He picks out cute things that are roughly double the size I actually wear. I wear them anyway when I know I'm going to see him because I know it makes him happy.

jimmy_talent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:10:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother tried to convince both me and my sister that you were supposed to wear pants about 6 inches above your waist and only fat people wore their pant down at their waist, luckily even at 6 years old I was way smarter than her, my sister wasn't so lucky.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:16:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother told me the opposite. I was a big girl growing up and really self conscious but she would buy me clothes that were 2 sizes too small and i was just awful. As a result even though I've lost a ton of weight now I STILL can't wear tight clothes and only were XXL tshirts

felesroo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:29:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have been struggling for YEARS to get my teeny, tiny 5', 90 lbs mother to wear clothes that actually fit her. She literally was wearing 8-10 stuff that was hanging on her. She was swimming in her clothes. It was like Vincent Adultman, but with, I don't know, hamsters and a human head.

I've finally gotten her down to the 4-6 range and it's better now. She realizes that if she TRIES on all those "too small" clothes she sees that they actually fit perfectly. She looks better too.

Crazycatlover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:34:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother had a similar attitude. In fact, this post reminded me of a time when she and I were trying on shirts together. We have the same basic build and were trying on the same shirt (in different sizes). It fit snugly and accentuated the bust. My thought when looking at Mom was "wow, Mom actually has boobs. She looks great."

Mom's words, however, were, "I don't think this is very flattering fit. It makes my bossom look huge." (yeah, that's the point) "It doesn't look very good on you either; let's find something else." (Wait, what? I like this).

I was about 15 at the time, and my parents were still paying for most of my clothes. I started shopping with Dad after that trip. Mom truly would only allow me to buy clothing that hid my breasts, but Dad trusted my judgement.

When I was 18, Mom tried to bully me into getting a breast reduction "while [I was] still on [their] health insurance." It was amazing how quickly the doctor switched from "we can definitely get a reduction approved" to "actually, I don't recommend reductions to anyone under the age of 25" as soon as I told her the real reason I'd made the appointment. My breasts aren't even that big though; they're slightly larger than Mom's, and I think she has an unhealthy jealousy.

HAC522 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:36:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I spent my entire life wearing L(long) instead of R(regular) just because my mother said I was tall.

I found out I was a regular once I figured out where a cuff is supposed to sit, and asked the tailor to bring it up, to which he replied "so you want want me to turn a long into a regular? Why not just get the regular?"

I've recently fully realized that my mother has self esteem issues about here rear, and thusly wears really oversized men's shirts to cover up her rear as a result. I suppose she was projecting that onto me as well.

TractorOfTheDoom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:37:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Deep, deep down, far, far in, your mother is a project gangster.

DickYeast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not so deep actually. East LA Mexican mom.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:44:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same thing here, however my younger brother never fell for her shenanigans, and always dressed better fitting clothes at 16 than I did at 20, when I moved out and shopped on my own I realized what fit and what didn't, especially with formal clothes, no shirt will be properly tucked in with bad fitting pants...

Benevolent1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:45:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I went to a pretty strict Christian school where you always had to have your shirt tucked in. It was about 2 years after I graduated that my girlfriend's twin sister said "Dude, some shirts are not meant to be tucked in."

shut-up-dana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:47:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My aunt was making fun of my (21 year old) cousin for her 'painted-on jeggings' and my cousin was laughing along and defending 'well they're flattering!' - this was at dinner so I can't actually see what my cousin's wearing. Later on we get up to leave and she's wearing slim-fit, high-waist bootcut jeans. My aunt brought them up again 'if they were any tighter they'd cut you in half!' - I have no idea what she was seeing.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:53:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I looked like a ragamuffin

is that a problem?

DickYeast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh no, no offense to the local ragamuffins, I just want to be a designeramuffin

OrangeredValkyrie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:54:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I like wearing tighter shirts. Baggy clothes just aren't comfortable to me. It was a great day when I not only realized I was old enough to not give a shit what my mother wanted me to wear, but also that she had realized that it was kind of late to be bitching about my choice of clothing.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:27:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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DickYeast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mom's not a narcissist, but her mother is and she picked up the habits. I wish you all luck.

Misrav ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:29:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty much the same. And when I started to buy my own clothes I went on buying extra large stuff. I couldn't even see that they were too large for me. It took years and someone telling me: this is not your size, try this instead and look - actually look - at yourself. Can you tell the difference? It took time to get out of that habit, but in the end I managed. Now every time I see my mum she complains I wear clothes too tight.

NightByMoonlight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:41:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My school blazer I was bought for my last three years of school at 13 is still a few sizes to big for me now, and that was almost 20 years ago.

SaysiAlt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:48:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was a fat kid and my parents bought me clothes 2-3 sizes bigger to "hide it". Mother had an obsession with pointing out when things "weren't flattering" (i.e. didn't hide the fact that I was overweight by dressing me in a tent) so my childhood was massive plain coloured t-shirts from the $5 on the men's side of the department store. I still can't wear shorts (or skirts, dresses, leggings...) because she made me so self-conscious about covering my legs.

Fancy_Tuna_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:53:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Glad I'm not the only one to go through this.

pineapplesmellgood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:57:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

With my Mom, it's length. It's like I can't leave the house wearing anything above my ankles.

Razzler1973 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:58:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mums!!

When I was of an age to go buy my own shoes, mid teens, maybe. I got some, got back home and they were a bit small. I think my Mum ended up taking them back (I would have done it)

To THIS DAY if I mention to my Mum I am going to get some shoes or running shoes what does she say? "make sure they fit" ... I am 43 years old goddammit'!!!

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:05:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom bought and continues to buy me giant clothing. I don't understand it and I never will. She also thinks guys should "eat twice as much" as girls so there's something going on there.

SpottedChoropy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:09:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh man, do I know what you're talking about. My mother took me shopping 6 to 8 years ago to buy a jacket for winter. That thing still doesn't fit me

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:13:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mil is like this with my kids. It becomes a safety hazard!

Metal_Devil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:31:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom bought me XXXL shirts when I was 15 saying "you'll grow into them".

Thanks mom.

ninja_chinchilla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:37:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was the other way around. When I was 17 I used to wear XL t-shirts and big baggy trousers (I was a UK size 8 - I think that's about a US 4). My nan died and my mum got me some clothes for the funeral - a skinny fit black/grey t-shirt and a small A-line skirt. It made me realise that the clothes I'd been wearing before, although soooo comfy, weren't very flattering for my figure.

DancingMaker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:47:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom still does this to me, it would be cheaper for me to invest in tents.

VehaMeursault ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:56:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That username. What the.

DickYeast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You've never gotten a yeast infection in your dick? Consider yourself lucky.

VehaMeursault ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Three decades old and I can proudly say I haven't. I'm inclined to ask why it's like, but won't. Sometimes naรฏvetรฉ is very comfortable.

DickYeast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:34:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Actually I don't possess a dick I couldn't tell you if I wanted

hansgrubermustdie ยท 5722 points ยท Posted at 02:38:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What food tastes like. Chicken is not supposed to be tough, dry and chewy. Steak is not usually chewy, flat and gray. There are more seasonings available than salt and pepper. Once I taught myself to cook the world just opened up with new flavors and foods. It was the best.

Tharage53 ยท 1766 points ยท Posted at 05:03:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mum wonders why I don't like her steak and accuses me of being lazy and not wanting to chew; when it's a chewy gray dry tasteless mess

PartyPorpoise ยท 1451 points ยท Posted at 05:23:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom thought I had an eating disorder. The truth is that I just didn't want to eat plain, boiled chicken for dinner 5 days a week.

8979323 ยท 1487 points ยท Posted at 05:39:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Boiled??? Bugger me. I mean, my parents' food was bland, but this is fucking child abuse.

Seal-zx ยท 204 points ยท Posted at 09:56:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's a Chinese tradition. Take the flavour out of everything and add artificial flavours afterwards.

This is also their philosophy in life.

Source: I'm Chinese

FoxMadrid ยท 117 points ยท Posted at 13:46:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Friend of mine married a Chinese lady. Asked her once how come she used so much MSG when she was cooking.

She paused, looked at him funny, and said, "...because I want it to be delicious?"

I like her.

FairyOfTheStars ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:13:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Please explain :( I don't understand.

jmlinden7 ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 15:18:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

MSG makes things delicious

mirocj ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:25:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But why does he like his friend's wife???

jmlinden7 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 16:28:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She makes delicious food and doesn't afraid of anything

Toasted_FlapJacks ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:37:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But what is MSG?

gelfin ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 15:45:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Monosodium Glutamate. It's a seasoning commonly used in some Asian cuisines, Chinese in particular, that tends to work as a flavor enhancer. Years ago there was a minor paranoid freakout in the US with people having nocebo (anti-placebo) "reactions" to it (fatigue, headaches, all the things people claim are wrong with them when there isn't really anything wrong with them) and so "no MSG" became the "gluten-free" of a few decades ago and you don't find it in a lot of things these days.

ryken ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:48:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

All true except the last part. It's still in a ton of stuff, and every Chinese restaurant with a "no msg" sign is lying. No one knows the difference because it was all in their head the first place.

amkamins ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:13:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That and tomatoes naturally have a very high MSG content. Yet nobody complained about pizza.

Gonzobot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:08:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, if they advertise no msg, they just use regular salts instead, and way more of it. You can request they make your food with the MSG most of the time, and I HIGHLY recommend you do.

DwarfTheMike ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:11:01 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's in Doritos. If you every find yourself not able to have just one of something it probably has MSG.

DingJones ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:43:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Monosodium glutamate

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:04:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is she single?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

married

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:39:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

...so... Is she single?

Crocoduck_The_Great ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 12:27:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, as long as you're adding flavor back in, it isn't a terrible idea. The problem come in when people use a cooking method that takes the flavor away, like boiling, then don't add any other flavor after.

AXhunter ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:11:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm Persian and we actually do a similar thing. to be honest, i absolutely love the boiled chicken my mom makes. its one of my favourite foods.

CoffeeAndSwords ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do you add seasoning/flavor to the water?

AXhunter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:29:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

spices, seasonings... often times, we would let the raw chicken soak in spiced water days before we actually boiled it. then, we threw it next to rice and ate it. its great.

CoffeeAndSwords ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:32:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do you have the recipe? This sounds delicious

AXhunter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:28 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

im fairly new to the marvellous invention that is Reddit, so i dont know if you can see the recipe as i replied it to someone else who asked for it... heres the link, in case.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/4yrnyt/what_did_your_parents_teach_you_that_you_had_to/d6s9o3h

roflpwntnoob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:59:51 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wanna share the family secrets with us?

AXhunter ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:43:33 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Here we go:

ingredients: salt, powdered pepper, lemon juice, orange juice (no pulp), powdered garlic, powdered onion

Directions: skin and wash an entire chicken. boil the chicken for a short time, so the fat melts off into the water. take the chicken out, wash it again, then take the raw chicken and fry it with butter. make sure the surface is fried, but the insides are uncooked. then boil it again on medium temperature for about 1 hour and a half.. pour all of the ingredient's in the water. stir. stir more. stir even more.

after one hour and a half, you can take it out, and eat it by itself or eat it alongside cooked rice.

AXhunter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:28:15 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ill ask my mother and give you guys the recipe. im 14 and dont know the first thing about cooking. probably will have the recipe in 5 or 6 hours.

spiritshadow56 ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 08:32:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Boiled chicken tastes great and is fairly common in many countries, try googling boiled chicken Vietnamese.

somewhereunderthe ยท 105 points ยท Posted at 08:39:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think the key is 'plain'

GenocideSolution ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 09:17:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's a Chinese dish called "white cut chicken" which is essentially a whole chicken boiled in plain water, chopped into pieces, and served with a soy sauce+ginger+scallions+sesame oil dipping sauce.

The stock made from boiling the chicken is used to make soup.

WebbieVanderquack ยท 199 points ยท Posted at 09:28:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

served with a soy sauce+ginger+scallions+sesame oil dipping sauce.

The key words distinguishing this from "plain, boiled chicken."

Mammal-k ยท 103 points ยท Posted at 09:37:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He just isn't getting the core concept I think.

JewishHippyJesus ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 11:57:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, I don't blame him. Its a pretty fucked up concept.

Sergiotor9 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:56:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For several years in my house a whole chicken was boiled in the pressure cooker once a week, plain water and salt, we got 3 meals out of it, the first one being just the chicken and some side (salad or potatoes most of the time). It's still good, I mean, I usually eat it with some sauce, but I could it that plain no problem.

LiquidSilver ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 12:59:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Plain boiled chicken is amazing when it isn't plain.

[deleted] ยท 79 points ยท Posted at 11:17:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

bro hes talking about just plain goddamn chicken congrats on the chinese dish but they werent asking for that kind of input

Randomn355 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 12:36:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They know, they're just rubbing it in how easy it wouldve been to make that nice haha

lofi76 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 12:38:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

rubbing it in

With spices, even.

somewhereunderthe ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 11:20:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Served with a dipping sauce - not plain. Sounds yum.

gamblingman2 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:18:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The recipe for nasty boiled chicken as made by my ex-wife:

Get whole chicken, thaw if frozen, check skin for any feathers the plucker missed and pull any you find, check inside of chicken for organ meat pack and remove it, fill large pot with water and add whole chicken and cover with lid, DO NOT ADD ANY SEASONINGS LIKE OIL OR SALT OR ANYTHING, boil until chicken completely falls apart because you forgot about it (well you remembered about an hour in... but you were watching some stupid fucking show so you add enough water to keep from having to mess with it), when you decide it's done dump the water down the sink and tell everyone dinner is ready, eat rubberized chicken out of the pot.

You shall not add salt, seasonings, dips, condiments, garnish or anything else at any point and if anyone tries to add anything you should get extremely angry and demand they cook the next meal and tell everyone outside the family how ungrateful your family is and etc...

This recipe also works for beef roast or ham!

Karzons ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:28:55 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Congrats on the divorce.

gamblingman2 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:53:45 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm so glad I totally cut her out of my life. Best decision ever.

Holy shit, I just realized that was 10 years ago. Woah. A lot has changed in that time.

ChristyElizabeth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

.....wow..... So... what do you do with the organ meat?

gamblingman2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:08:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some people like to eat it. You can make them into a meat gravy, or fry them, or boil them with the chicken for a better tasting broth.

ChristyElizabeth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ahh i see. So following your recipe, I should throw it in the trash.

gamblingman2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:06:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, the key is to never marry my ex!

bless_ure_harte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:50 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thats how you make soup

theliewasacake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:15:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

and its freaking amazing

monetized_account ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 10:49:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I went to visit a grandparent in eastern europe, they only ever boiled meat - chicken, beef or pork.

I tried it a couple of times out of politeness.

It was fucking disgusting.

Sonja_Blu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:55:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why would anyone do this?!

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:44:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I would assume to make soup or broth, which gives you more food from the same ingredients.
The thing is, they're making soup, with boiled meat as a byproduct, whereas the grandchild (for analogies sake) thinks the point is to get boiled meat.

Sonja_Blu ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:09:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Soup is not the same as boiled meat. I'm assuming that OP here isn't that stupid and hasn't confused the most popular dish in the world with boiled meat. Boiled meat implies removing the meat from the liquid and eating it alone rather than making a soup out of a piece of meat.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:19:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

implies removing the meat from the liquid and eating it alone

Yes? That's exactly what I meant.
I too have relatives who when making soup take out the boiled meat and eat it as a separate dish, though usually with horse-radish, so they wouldn't taste anything anyway.

Sonja_Blu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:26:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ok, then I'm back to my original question - why would anyone do that? Your 'soup' is going to be tasteless and disgusting, unless you've got a bunch of other stuff in there too, and the meat is also going to be disgusting. Why wouldn't you just leave the meat in the soup? I don't get it.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:45:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That seems to be where we misunderstood each other: of course the 'soup' part isn't just water, it's boiled with vegetables seasoning and wathever else. The point is it's good without the meat too, which you can eat separately with it's own seasoning (personally, I find it disgusting).
The assumptions I made was that OP brought up "boiled meat" as a dish, leaving out that it's actally just the byproduct of making soup. (I have never heard anyone just boiling meat to get the taste out, well.. maybe the brits..). Plus I assume the soup-ingredient-meat would actually pick up some of the soup's seasoning, but it would taste completely bland to an American used to high fructose corn syrup infused products.

[Edit: dammit I logged in to check on news about the RX480 lineup, ended up discussing soupmaking in Eastern-Europe.]

Sonja_Blu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:54:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ah, ok, we did misunderstand each other. I wouldn't call that boiled meat, personally, but I get it now. It would definitely pick up flavour from the broth. If leave it in, myself, but I understand picking it out if you've chucked in meat on the bone (which you would do to make soup). When I make chicken soup I have to sort through to pull out the bones and sometimes I'll just eat some of the meat on its own, it's actually really tasty. I was picturing meat boiled in water and just eaten plain.

ChristyElizabeth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:07:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Know what's really good? Boiling a rotisserie chicken. Bones and all. Makes a good chicken soup base.

Sonja_Blu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:55 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That sounds good but rotisserie chicken is expensive here so I wouldn't be boiling it for soup. I generally save bones from bone in chicken I debone before cooking and make broth.

8979323 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:55:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Yes. In the past few weeks I've made hainanese chicken and oyakodon, each of which uses boiled chicken. But, critically, there are other seasonings and ingredients too

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:13:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

try googling boiled chicken Vietnamese.

As opposed to the regular type of Vietnamese?

brec1821 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 11:56:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents did that too. Book it, throw it in the oven. If we were lucky, sometimes they would shred it and mix it with gravy over mashed potatoes. Blegh.

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 08:20:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I actually like boiled chicken in a curry.

SirRosstopher ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 08:48:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The difference there is that it actually has some sort of flavour with it. OP was talking about plain boiled chicken I assume.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:23:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I... I had that too. I liked it. It had this strange, jelly like consistency that I actually enjoyed. I now want some boiled chicken. Only the leg though - Boiled chicken breast sounds retch worthy.

WebbieVanderquack ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 09:30:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Boiled chicken breast is probably better than boiled leg, because it has less fat (boiled fat is weird). You'd usually do something with it, like shred it for sandwiches or bake it in a pie with some kind of sauce.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:35:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The boiled skin was the most delicious part though and isn't that mostly fat?

WebbieVanderquack ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:40:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah. I think boiled chicken skin is gross and flabby.

Track607 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:48:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, gross. Also love boiled chicken breast. Leave it for in for an hour and becomes tender like pulled pork. You can then add anything you want to it.

Crocoduck_The_Great ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:28:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I truly gagged reading this. Boiled chicken skin is not something most people enjoy.

lofi76 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:39:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Vultures love it tho.

thebondoftrust ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:10:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think we can conclude that you have eclectic tastes.

Omegamanthethird ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:52:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I boil it any time I need to shred it.

BritneySmears ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:47:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Man, one of the best things in life is juicy and tender baked chicken with browned and crispy skin.

TheTrackPadUser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:59:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Imagine drinking the water it was boiled in...

MyNameIs_Jesus_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:28:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I actually like boiled chicken though...

ReptiRo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:08:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, Jesus did she run a freaking POW camp?

Einharjar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:10:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Soy sauce chicken is pretty good, all you do is pretty much boil it in soy sauce anyway

boom149 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

[picture of plain, gray, unseasoned boiled chicken] "My parents used to make me food like this until I got Twitter and found out I have rights"

eyemadeanaccount ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:56:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Boiling chicken can be good, but not plain. It's good if you boil it for something like chicken salad, or something you are going to put it in the food processor for anyway. Or if you boil it to cook it for the most part and then cook it in a pan with seasonings, etc. This is normally if you're too lazy to properly defrost and cook it the right way though. Still, not bad.

Pandaxtor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Boiled chicken is fine if it used in soup or some kind of stuffing.

OneAndOnlyJackSchitt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:14:21 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hey, man.

There's ain't nothing wrong with boiled if it's done right. My wife starts with frozen chicken and cooks it all day in the crock pot. Not sure how she season's it but goddamn, it's fucking yummy.

Edit: She tells me it's seasoning salt, garlic salt, creole... powder? and seasoned veggies. Comes out moist as fuck, too. Not even a little chewy.

conduit122 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:56:17 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You think you're a big man because you're doing time for vandalism? Well I'm in here for child abuse, and that's even worse!

wickedbadnaughtyZoot ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 06:25:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom occasionally boiled steak.

byrondw ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 06:30:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I never even considered that a possibility... I'm... I'm, sorry?

EasyTigrr ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:17:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You don't have to apologise for everything you know.

Aalnius ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:14:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

he might be english and if thats the case he does, sorry.

MeatyLoafr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:22:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

M... meta?

toocoolsquid ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 07:03:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Milk steak? Over easy?

ZeiZaoLS ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 07:16:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

And a handful of your finest jelly beans!

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 08:10:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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WebbieVanderquack ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:30:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Raw jelly beans? You crazy.

bless_ure_harte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:32 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

With horrse flseh

invisiblemonster_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:36:17 on August 30, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

:(

Boye ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 07:30:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My girlfriend found a recipe a few years ago, that said to boil the chicken - then roast it in the oven. It was the most delicious, tender and moist chicken ever. I have never had over dry, boring chicken like many here has, but this was beyond fantastic!

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:33:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What was the recipe? I've got some chicken in the freezer and don't know what to do with it

vivevivas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:38:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Go on pinterest and look up "longhorns copy cat parmesan chicken". It's so yummy!

Boye ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:37:21 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't have it here, but try to boil untill tender, then cut a pocket and stuff it with cream cheese, like the red Philadelphia. Then wrap in bacon and throw in the owen...

The other recipe had an ungodly amount of vegetables and a carry sauce and then rice

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:50:53 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks!

drunky_crowette ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 11:05:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My ex said he heard the heavens open up when I grilled some marinated chicken for him the first time. I didn't understand til we went to dinner at his parents and his mom poured almost all of one of those big black salt cans in the pot and plopped in the chicken and an hour later I was eating a dry chicken salt lick.

She then proudly said she made it at least twice a week and everyone loves it. The entire family was obviously cringing and trying to force it down silently.

markfitzfritzel ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 12:45:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is your mother white by any chance?

PartyPorpoise ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:29:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes.

Page_Won ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:36:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Better than boiled hot dogs.

Crocoduck_The_Great ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:30:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I disagree. Boiled hot dogs, while gross, retain the vase majority of their flavor. Plain boiled chicken tastes disgusting.

Kowzorz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:05:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When the alternative is microwaving the dog, boiling is wonderful.

Weekend833 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:02:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The trick there is to wrap it tightly in cellophane. The result is more of a steamed hot dog and not bad.

Weekend833 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:01:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No. Dude. As a member of a boiled chicken club as a kid, I can tell you with exuberant certainty that boiled hot dogs are practically a gourmet affair in comparison.

invisiblemonster_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:58 on August 30, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Once, I saw my MIL cook hot dogs in the oven. I feel we have a lot to discuss together.

Weekend833 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:59:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

HOLY SHIT! I'M NOT ALONE ANYMORE!

That stuff was the blandest, palest, most unappetizing stuff on earth. There was, if my repressed memories are correct, some kind of slime that coated it too.

Battlestemic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:39:12 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If i'm not mistaken, that's the fat boiling off. aka the delicious stuff

whattoucantfind ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:55:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Throw some rosemary in the water and its not so bad!

plop0 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:02:48 on August 26, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

plain, boiled chicken for dinner 5 days a week.

that sounds like an eating disorder ;)

Godrehl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:26:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nothing like the taste of water in the form of dissolving meat.

Dayofsloths ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:32:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not a fan of hot ham water?

Yobleck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:50:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Someone who understands my pain. I will never boil anything if I can help it

Pomqueen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:51:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can boil chicken ...?

PresidentTaftsTaint ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:12:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, but most people only do that if they're making soup

PartyPorpoise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can, but you shouldn't.

MisaMisa21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:33:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So like a soup?

PartyPorpoise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nope. Just a plain, boiled chicken breast.

aar123mcl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:39:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm so glad my mom isn't the only one who boiled chicken. First time I threw a chicken breast on a frying pan, my mom thought I was going to poison everyone. Chicken hasn't been boiled since that day.

barneysmom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom boiled chicken too! I used to shred it with my fork to give it some texture. She'd also make chicken noodle soup by just adding chicken legs bones and all so you had to use a fork and a knife to eat soup.

Agent1108 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom would do something similar but tastier. She'd boil the chicken and then shred it, add mayo and some carrot, salt and pepper and we'd put it in a sandwich. Greatest sandwich growing up.

Biteitliketysen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It sounds like the generation before us were a hunch of numb skulls.

mrizzerdly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:06:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Boiled chicken is the worst.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Irish?

lipstickapocalypse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a boiler mom as well. I totally feel your pain.

ihatethesidebar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I gagged, damn I'm sorry you have to go through that

tilsitforthenommage ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:17:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Makes me sad, an animal died for that

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 13:00:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mum refuses to cook me steak because I complained that I (on a student budget with 0 cooking ability) can buy and cook better steak than her. She buys the cheap, thinly sliced, "quick fry" steaks which are disgusting. No option other than to have it well done and chewy (which I hate). For like $2 more you can get a very decent rump/fillet and with a bit of time and prep you can have a lovely rare steak.

Crocoduck_The_Great ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 12:25:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

accuses me of being lazy

I'm firmly of the opinion that eating should not be a chore. If the amount of effort is greater than the reward, you shouldn't be eating it. This is the very reason I don't eat crab. I don't dislike crab, its fine, but do be worth the amount of effort I put into eating it, I would have to love it, which I don't.

noscope360gokuswag ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:46:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Buy an 8oz can of lump crab (chicken of the sea has surprisingly good lump crab in small plastic jars anywhere from $11) and sprinkle it into things at the end especially pasta, make some crab cakes, or just spoon that shit into your mouth.

Takes zero effort and lump is better than leg meat anyways and always more cherished for recipes

Crocoduck_The_Great ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:04:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If I don't like crab enough to take it out of the shell I certainly don't like it enough to spend $22 a pound on it.

noscope360gokuswag ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:14:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

You said you didn't want to shell it.. Wow dude sorry I gave some friendly advice man I will go fuck myself

Edit:also you can get large cans of lump crab from Phillips for $8 a full LB so there's that. I just assume you don't shop restaurant supply

Crocoduck_The_Great ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:23:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't mean to come across as offensive/rude.

I don't know what other's food budgets are like but for my family $22/lb is a pretty expensive meat and I would only rarely spend that type of money on meat. It would also need to be for a food I loved.

$8/lb is much more realistic, I would just need to figure if we could eat a whole pound of crab in a sitting or two.

Galadriel_l ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:10:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep. Wasn't until I was an adult that I learned I really liked medium steak! So delicious! I grew up taught to think I'd get sick from any meat that wasn't "well, we'll well" done!

elijahhhhhh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:32:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was 20 years old before I learned that steak could be enjoyable

Doctah_Whoopass ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:11:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I tried cooking steaks the other day. Only a minute or two each side, and they're already grey. But of course the one steak I left on for like 8 min per side is nice a pink in the centre.

PizzaRollsAndWeed ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:22:03 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to learn that steak is actually delicious and that everyone else was right, i just had never had any good steak. Flat and impossible to chew. Apparently steak should not be this.

Le_Vagabond ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:05:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I introduced my parents to the wonders of medium-rare well grilled crust high quality meat, they haven't gone back since. they ask for medium, though.

Bonobosaurus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:03:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ah steak. Chew chew chew, spit in napkin, repeat throughout steak.

TheStormlands ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:19:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad over cooks everything... I once had a blue rare steak and he was horrified i would get sick. There is also a thing as too much seasoning... smothering your steak and burgers in all the mcormic pre made shit doesn't taste that great.

bollshot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:23:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eh, lucky for me the kind of steak my parents make are juicy, chew, and medium rare/thoroughly cooked. IMO, alot better than arbys.

mrmoe198 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:32:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You should cook her a meal sometime :)

yoloimgay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:00:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not wanting to chew? She must be some kind of gymnast to come up with that lol, so absurd.

Palindromer101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:22:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm so glad I learned to cook well. Steaks aren't easy, but they aren't hard to cook correctly. Chicken is a little tougher, but you just have to know your cooking times.

Riff-Ref ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:41:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But it's okay to overwork your jaw muscles until your temples ache.

FierceDeity_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:35:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hell I did a little practice on steaks then on the next big grilling at my dad's I just took over the steak grilling and people loved the steaks.

Some said "oh isn't that too raw?" when it was pink-ish in the middle but the eaters insisted it was the best this way.

My dad is usually a little brute with that, he just cooks it until it's through

lumpymattress ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents are determined that well done is the only way to cook meat. I don't eat with them very much.

SadGhoster87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

being lazy and not wanting to chew

This is the most idiotic justification for bad cooking I've ever seen.

digitalchicken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:20 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes! My mother hates any 'blood' in her steak - so she cooks it until it is dry and rubbery. When I asked her why she didn't cook it medium for me like I asked, she says "because that's not the way I like it" MRW

awv0713 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:21 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Learn to cook it right, show her how it's done

flamingspew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:47:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's the way I've always preferred it. Slather it up in ketchup and hork it down with some Mountain Dew. I'm not joking.

no_morelurking ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Have you ever tried a good steak??

flamingspew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:39 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

yes. I've had several 46-day dry aged porterhouse from a fine Italian restaurant reputable for it's steaks. ordered the second one well done, enjoyed it much more. barely could stomach the first one. I'm sure the chef spat all over it.

timawesomeness ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:01:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's worse when it's a chewy red dripping undercooked mess.

kinkachou ยท 1350 points ยท Posted at 05:19:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Where did you grow up? I had the same thing happen growing up in the Midwest with a family that literally thinks ketchup is too spicy. The only seasoning used was salt and everything was really dry and bland. I hated meat, especially steak, because it was dry and chewier than gum. Since that was all I knew, I assumed I hated American food, and when I taught myself how to cook as an adult I only prepared Asian and Mexican food, because it actually had some flavor and seasoning to it.

Then I had a girlfriend who wanted to eat American meals, so I looked up recipes for dishes I didn't even really like just to make for her. Imagine my surprise when foods I thought I hated actually tasted good when I didn't overcook them and put in some spices and seasoning! Things got even better when I met a guy who was a cook in a Southern soul food restaurant who introduced me to Southern cooking.

NAmember81 ยท 798 points ยท Posted at 05:57:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I remember in southern Illinois I was bartending and I put like one drop of Frank's hot sauce in some soup and everybody was like "daaaamn.. you're gonna be shitting fire for the next few days!"

Another guy saw be put tabasco sauce on pizza and he said "you know that stuff eats a hole in your stomach, right?!"

Then to convince me it was true he got a really dirty penny out and put Tabasco on it and let it sit for 10 minutes and then wiped it off and it was shiny like a new penny and he says "if it does this to a penny just imagine what it does to your stomach!"

ISBUchild ยท 1637 points ยท Posted at 07:02:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That guy is going to flip out when he learns that his stomach is filled with acid.

SomeAnonymous ยท 87 points ยท Posted at 12:02:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And really, really concentrated acid at that.

themindlessone ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:57:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's around 3M, not terribly concentrated.

SomeAnonymous ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:42:02 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Compared with the sort of acids most people deal with - the 0.1-1M range you get in science labs at 14, stomach acid is pretty concentrated.

Genocide_Bingo ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 13:00:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

An incredibly strong acid no less. Pay attention in school kids because your stomach is not made of old coins.

dryingsocks ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 12:30:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

and the acid eats away his stomach wall so it has to regrow at the same pace

edit: just wanted to add that I think this makes digestion sound really badass

nemo_nemo_ ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 13:08:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It is really badass, until you realize that we don't really eat food for ourselves and that we're all just food slaves for the armies of bacteria that exist in our stomach and intestines.

dryingsocks ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 13:24:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

...um, no, we command armies of bacteria to get us the nutrients out of our food?

the_jak ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 13:50:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They enjoy you playing along with the fiction of you being in charge.

SovietJugernaut ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:12:33 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Look at me.

Look at me.

I'm the digester now.

SadGhoster87 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:24:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Someone post that one Tobuscus video

grendus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:39 on August 26, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When you think about it, we're really just walking biomes for both our cells and symbiotic bacteria.

Ae3qe27u ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:31:39 on September 2, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Basically, yeah.

RifterDrifter ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 14:42:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What? I've never heard that.

The basics of what I've been taught is that, for most of the stomach, there is a layer of mucus that prevents stomach acids from eating away at the walls. When there are gaps in coverage, you get ulcers.

I could also go into how stomach acids are produced! There are quite a few fail-safes built into the process to prevent them from eating your stomach alive. It's fascinating (at least to me...)

DrScienceMD ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:47:25 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Tell me more!

RifterDrifter ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:51:44 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ok!

So the biggest fail-safe is the way stomach acid is made. The stomach acid you know is an active form called pepsin and can be found in the stomach. It's produced, however, as a form called pepsinogen in little tiny pits in the stomach wall (think like pores).

The pepsinogen is made all they way at the bottom of the pore, while mucus is secreted at the top of the pore. Now since the mucus is made at the top of the pore (so it can cover the rest of the stomach wall better), the bottom of the pore has no mucus protection. So if the bottom made active pepsin, your stomach wall tissues would be corroded and destroyed. Instead it makes pepsinogen,which is inactive. Think like if a pepsin had a ball-and-chain that prevented it from 'eating' other substances: that's pepsinogen.

So how does pepsinogen turn into pepsin? Well, your stomach pores ALSO make what's called coenzymes for the pepsinogen. In our running analogy, coenzymes are the saw for pepsinogen's ball-and-chain; they will cleave the pepsinogen so that only the pepsin remains.

BUT, in order to keep the coenzymes from cleaving pepsinogen in the pore, which is bad because there's no mucus down there, the coenzymes have the caveat that they only work in high pH environments. It's as if the saws are also chained up with a big padlock, and a high pH is the key to free the coenzyme. This way the coenzymes only start working once they're in the stomach proper where there is already a whole bunch of normal pepsin floating around. THEN they cleave the ball-and-chain off of the pepsinogen when it's safe to, turning it into its active pepsin form.

That's kinda as simple as I can make it. Does that make sense at all?

DrScienceMD ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:27:22 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Both interesting and informative! Thank you!

How on earth did you learn all this? Did someone subscribe you to "STOMACH FACTS?"

RifterDrifter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:31:57 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haha, I'm getting a degree that's very heavy in biology and chemistry! :)

wyrh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought it was bacteria that gave you stomach ulcers...?

Mind you, I stumbled across a periodic table the other day that's different from what I was taught at school. I have no idea what's true any more :/

RifterDrifter ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:55:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Kinda! :) There are some bacteria that can 'eat' through the mucus lining in the stomach, but there are other ways it can happen too! Here's a link that describes how and why uclers happen in pretty plain terms.

wyrh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Really interesting, thanks!

Rosivenna ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How different? If it was a different shape or didn't have the two rows at the bottom then it's wrong, if it had a different number of elements or some of the biggest elements had different names that's pretty normal since some are still being discovered, confirmed, and named

wyrh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They've given the groups different numbers. When I was at school, the halogens were group 7, the noble gases were group 8 and so on. The table I saw had numbered the metals in the middle so now there were 20+ groups instead of 8.

themindlessone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:00:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The transition metals have sub groups, that may have been what they were showing. Groups are based on valence arrangements, so halogens will always be 7, noble gases 8.

wyrh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've looked it up again, the groups now run from 1-18 (so not quite 20+, I was misremembering). Yes, the valence arrangements won't have changed so it's probably just a superficial labelling difference in the table. It just took me aback for a bit. No idea if they still teach it as groups 1-8 plus transition metals or if the kids are now taught to refer to groups 1-18.

Rosivenna ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was in high school chemistry they taught us both but the 1-8 were the important ones and after a brief overview of the transition metals we were told we'd learn more if we kept studying chemistry. Almost to the end of a chemical engineering degree and we still haven't covered them in depth

ButterFlamingo ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 12:23:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And many people drink acid on a daily basis.

Cant_standja ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 13:00:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In southern Illinois I ate a lot of acid.

Mag101_ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:50:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Northern Ohio.

Can confirm we eat a lot of acid in the midwest.

kreedzclimbing ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:44:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Imagine drinking vial of LSD

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:03:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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kreedzclimbing ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:04:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thats approximately a fuck ton more of LSD than needed to change a person forever.

darkdrgon2136 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:09:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What can I do with a gallon?

iceykitsune ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:52:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

turn yourself into The Joker?

kreedzclimbing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:27:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dying comes to mind.

myworkingthrowaway ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:53:34 on August 26, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am laughing so hard at work right now

buttonforest ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 13:55:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I chuckled. I'm in school for a healthcare career, and am imagining this guy in a Biology 101 class.

KRiszification ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And lining that Can contain said acid without problems

Cylon_Toast ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 07:16:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This dude realizes that we have literally hydrochloric acid in our stomachs right? That will literally completely dissolve the zinc insides of that newly shiny penny.

I thought I couldn't stand spicy food but though I've never tried them I think I could stand Tabasco and Frank's. Heck, my favorite chips are jalapeรฑo cheetos, though any spicier than that and I may die.

momomo544 ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 09:12:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Tbh Frank's is barely hot. It's more of a delicious, warming, vinegar-y, salty, drizzle that goes lovely on most food.

If you can do spicy chips, you can do Frank's. Or the no name variant. Or Red Hot. Or any other salt-brine fermented hot sauce, aka Louisiana Hot Sauce. They're all tasty.

IsaacM42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:23:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or my mom's chile

Wolff_Fucker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Frank's is crap...it's so sour! Nothing like Sriracha or other chili sauces.

a3poify ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:46:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cholula's my favourite, but I like Frank's, too.

momomo544 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:38:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To me they're two different things entirely, each has its place. Sriracha is still my preferred one most of the time though.

TooBadFucker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or Texas Pete. Damn I love me some Texas Pete.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:12:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Tapatio is actually pretty damn hot, but it's an exception to the rule you're after.

Rhetor_Rex ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:25:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Tapatio isn't a Louisiana Style Hot Sauce. It's not an exception, it's a different kind of hot sauce.

Sonja_Blu ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 14:02:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Tabasco and Franks are not spicy, they're more vinegary.

Honest question - how have you never tried spicy food? How is that possible?

Cylon_Toast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have tried spicy food, many, many times. I'm just not good with anything spicier than jalapeรฑo cheetos. (Which are the best) Feels like my mouth is on fire otherwise. XD

Once I bit into a pepper in General Tso and I had to put my mouth under a faucet. Now I'm wary of any General Tso and make people taste it first.

So tl;dr: I've tried spicy food, I just don't like spicy food.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:54 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Cylon_Toast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:22:41 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Welp, that might be for some, but I avoid spicy food, I hate the burning sensation. But from what I've read habanero is not that spicy compared to like ghost or Carolina reapers or something. (My brother and cousin really like spicy food, I have like at least 10 hot sauces in my house)

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:49:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My go to hot sauce is Mad Dog 357.

Whenever I have things like Frank's it tastes like pure vinegar.

googahgee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:05:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've recently been enjoying more spicy foods, and I've discovered the wonders of putting sriracha on everything. It's great!

TrollManGoblin ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 08:28:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Anything acidic can clean copper coins.

furryballsack ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 12:13:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Tabasco cleans a penny because it's mostly vinegar. You could clean a penny just as well with ketchup. If you had shown him that it probably would have blown his mind and/or scared him off ketchup forever.

betona ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 12:01:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Heh. Southwestern boy living in the midwest here. Was at a party and walked into the kitchen to find a group daring each other to taste a toothpick with the tiniest of microdroplets on the tip of some ass-burner or whatever hot sauce. I was amused, asked for the bottle and went gloop-gloop-gloop dumping a bunch on a chip and ate it. Freaked 'em all out. It was hot for sure, but not really a big deal. (truth is many of those novelty hot sauces don't really taste all that good)

TooBadFucker ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 16:37:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The fuck? Were they reading out of "College Dares From the 50's"?

bless_ure_harte ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:26:13 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ikr

cooldeadpunk ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:52:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your stomach acid will literally eat a hole in a lot of things.

lofi76 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 12:41:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I bet he drinks Coca-Cola though.

WilhelmScreams ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:09:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have some tabasco sauce and some pennies. I guess I know what I'm doing this Sunday.

evincarofautumn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:15:23 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Itโ€™s the vinegar that does it. Tabasco is >10x more expensiveโ€”no need to waste it.

WilhelmScreams ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:46:37 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fair enough, but now I have a penny that smells like Tabasco!

... it impressed my kid at least.

Unsungghost ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:05:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's the vinegar. Has nothing to do with capsaicin.

Kinbaku_enthusiast ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:58:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Make a really shiny stomach?

the_jak ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:53:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You should have shown him what coca cola classic does to a dirty penny.

MittenMagick ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:50:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"....it's going to turn really shiny?"

But seriously, the irony of a guy in a bar telling you to worry about your stomach.

caffeineme ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:19:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Tabasco is mostly vinegar, so, yeah, that WILL clean a penny really well.

GummiBearMagician ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:29:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Next time you should take vinegar or lemon juice and show him the same trick.

Canrex ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:30:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Woah that penny thing is cool, I didn't know that! I gotta go get my some Tabasco sauce just for that.

arinthegreat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:38:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ketchup does that same thing to dirty pennies so that point was absolutely pointless

Pepper_dude ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:44:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

chugs whole bottle of Tabasco I am Immune. ( I would legit do this Tabasco is not really that hot)

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:49:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair, spicy giardiniera is a very common condiment in Chicago, so not all of Illinois is averse to spicy, tasty things!

_no_one234 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:53:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

HA...yea, when I was in the army I realized hot sauce is a good thing. :)

majorgerth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:00:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Carondale?

PizzaRollsAndWeed ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:24:03 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Im from a southern family, and I used to live in Maryland. Bunch of fuckin yankees. People would tell me pepperoni pizza was too spicy, and looked at me like i was superman because i like ghost pepper sauce.

thelittlepakeha ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:37:21 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cleans it?

ASDMEL ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:17:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To put tabasco on pizza is a sin for a whole set of other reasons.

NAmember81 ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 06:21:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What?

Eggs and pizza is specifically what the good lord created Tabasco for.

pjabrony ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:13:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And baked clams.

dracofolly ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:47:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think you mean steamed hams

white_butterfly1 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:58:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh man, crack an egg on top of a pizza before cooking it is the best.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 11:13:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lord God made those two specifically for tabasco. You are correct.

Alaskan_Thunder ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:24:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

also, Cheez-It's and pretzels. If you buy the storebought tabasco Cheez-It's it sucks, you need to make it yourself.

fasda ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:06:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I guess you must have grown up somewhere truly horrible because NYC to Philadelphia area thin crust pizza or even Chicago style 'pizza' has flavor enough to never need tabasco.

Mr_Roboto17 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 07:19:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's no such thing as enough flavor

bschug ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:46:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Depends on the pizza. I would never put Tabasco on the cheesy gift from heaven at my favorite Italian restaurant. But when I'm lazy and bake a frozen pizza at home? Never without Tabasco.

Horsepowerandspeed ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:19:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Frank's red hot or nothing

biggerx ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:00:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Most hot sauces on pizza are pretty good tbh.

E102gamma7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:03:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Valentina or nothing homie

bipolarandproud ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:49:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sriracha or nothing, ese.

ChocolateGautama3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:08:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Best thing ever is putting sriracha in the tomato sauce while you're making pizza.

revanisthesith ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:33:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Tabasco is just pepper-flavored vinegar.

pjabrony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:14:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Really? I was never a big fan but since you put it that way I might try it again. I love vinegar.

ASDMEL ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 08:39:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

yes
And putting pepper flavored vinegar on a good pizza is a serious offense to the pizzaiolo.

ASDMEL ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 08:39:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

yes
Putting pepper flavored vinegar on a good pizza is a serious offense to the pizzaiolo.

revanisthesith ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:55:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I agree with you, if that wasn't clear. I love spicy food and I love pizza, but if I want to make a spicy pizza, I'll put an actual hot sauce in the sauce and maybe use some spices, hot peppers, and/or spicy cheese(s). I love Cabot habanero cheddar. But I'm not making a delicious pizza that can stand on its own with subtle flavors in the seasonings, cheese, etc., and then throwing some hot sauce on top.

If your pizza needs hot sauce (or ranch. shudder.) to taste good, start eating better pizza.

ndutthecat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:06:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

chili oil on a pizza is delicious though, my favorite was and still is gorgonzola apple pizza with chili oil. imagine the saltiness,sweetness and spiciness from that pizza. anyone else?

biggerx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:59:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're about to be down voted to hell.

ASDMEL ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 07:27:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't think so. Really don't understand how a country with so many italian immigrants could develop such a bad excuse for pizza as in many places in USA.

biggerx ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:36:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Lol what does putting a dab of hot sauce on something have anything to do with whether the pizza is good? Are you telling me that the most amazing pizza in the world would repel hotsauce? Like with a forcefield? Jalapeรฑo on pizza is amazing. Spicy pizza is amazing. Spicy makes amazing pizza even more amazing. Not to mention that Tabasco is like the least overpowering of the hot sauces. It's like putting red pepper flakes on your pizza.

TooBadFucker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"if it does this to a penny just imagine what it does to your stomach!"

"Buddy, it's not doing it to the penny, it's doing it to the dirt on the penny."

pghreddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

he says "if it does this to a penny just imagine what it does to your stomach!"

Then he took another sip of his Coke.

Woot45 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:09:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Damn, I need to move there. I hate the flavor of any spiciness in food.

natural-fibers ยท 82 points ยท Posted at 06:49:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

literally thinks ketchup is too spicy

excuse me what now

kinkachou ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 08:01:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep, this comes up a lot. Even for Midwesterners with little experience with spicy food, this is pretty extreme.

Musical_Whew ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 08:45:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

...

does ketchup even have any heat to it at all?

BulbasaurusThe7th ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:24:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I intentionally buy some kind that has a bit of heat. Like the normal is nothing.

Musical_Whew ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 10:28:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Like actually nothing

Sonja_Blu ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:03:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No! It's sugar, vinegar, and tomato!

Garycolemang ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:11:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

White people...

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:25:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What does being white have to do with it?

natural-fibers ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:06:17 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

nothing. but people love their stereotypes.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:32:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know right, I'm white and love spice.

NO_TOUCHING__lol ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:36:39 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That family must be related to Professor Farnsworth.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1Igjk6CcAIzF9j.jpg

Gluttony4 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:45:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

LITERALLY THINKS KETCHUP IS TOO SPICY

NightGod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:18:13 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My son's high school girlfriend was like this. I exhorted her to never eat food I prepared, because Mexican chili powder and/or hot Hungarian paprika were a baseline in my kitchen.

invisiverse ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 06:20:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I grew up eating Mexican and Italian food. I can't even imagine how awful that must've been. I'm glad you discovered good food.

kinkachou ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:27:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds lucky, those along with Chinese and Japanese are my favorite cuisines. Luckily my mom didn't like cooking much, so we went out to eat and I got to order whatever I wanted, so I at least had some experience with Tex-Mex and American Chinese and Italian food. I actually didn't have authentic Mexican food until I went to China for the World Expo and the Mexican pavilion had a restaurant that served street tacos. At the time I thought they were cheap Chinese knockoffs, but discovered differently when I traveled to the US Southwest and had authentic Mexican for the first time.

invisiverse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:30:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm from Tucson, AZ. If you ever want to gorge on some of the best Mexican food in the country and try a lot of different regional Mexican food it's the place to go, plus the border is an hour away. That and the Sonoran desert is gorgeous and magical.

When you said Mexican food in China I was immediately thinking you must be nuts, but if it was like the Mexican food in the southwest then it must've been fairly authentic. Just know that sour cream is not authentic. Too many places put it on their food because Americans like it, but it's not something you'll find in authentic Mexican food.

Now I'm starving for some barbacoa and homemade tortillas.

kinkachou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:45:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There sadly isn't much Mexican food in Asia, but I guess Mexico wanted to show off Mexican food, since the restaurant took up about a third of their pavilion. I still like sour cream with Tex-Mex, but I'm cool with some avocado or guacamole.

In China imported flour tortillas were $12 for a pack of 10, so obviously I learned to make my own. I should make some more again soon.

invisiverse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:46:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit that's a lot of money for prepackaged tortillas. I don't think I could survive for long without Mexican food. Homemade is always best, but sometimes it's nice to go to a restaurant and let someone else cook.

With my Mexican food it's always salsa. Lots of yummy salsa.

Have you had any Mexican food for breakfast? Or had sopapillas?

[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 06:27:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Probably Wisconsin or thereabouts. My mother (from Wisconsin) cooks the blandest meals. I mean, she did, while I was growing up. Ketchup in chili and leftover "goulash", blech. My mom is a good dessert baker, but she can't cook a meal worth shit.

kinkachou ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:33:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandmother is from Minnesota and makes "goulash." I think she at least puts a bit of paprika in it, so it was one of my favorite meals as a kid. The Midwest really likes keeping meals simple, traditionally with fresh ingredients if you were on a farm, which could at least be all right, but still would be so much better with a bit of seasoning.

One of my theories is that cooking is an art and baking is a science. Usually people are better at one than the other depending on whether they are more artistic and do their own thing or prefer to closely follow given directions.

EagleFalconn ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 06:42:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm a scientist who has a reputation at work for being a real stickler for strictly adhering to procedures and obsessively measuring things.

I'm a great cook and a shitty, shitty baker. For what it's worth, I agree with your theory but my mom (who taught me to cook) ingrained in me a disrespect for cooking from a recipe.

Go figure, she now eats only her own home baked bread.

momomo544 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:15:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For what it's worth, I agree with your theory but my mom (who taught me to cook) ingrained in me a disrespect for cooking from a recipe.

Yup, if you haven't changed at least one thing, did you really cook at all?

I mean you did, but I still feel vaguely dirty cooking from a recipe.

UpboatOrNoBoat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:37:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like strict adherence to a recipe is only necessary for shit like baking, because that's truly a science.

I just throw together stuff for dinner all the time. Noodle, sauce, meat, spices. Whatever is available and makes sense = a meal.

shadowsong42 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:51:20 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I like finding a bunch of recipes for the same thing and averaging them.

kinkachou ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:56:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I love baking, because it's essentially a chemistry experiment you can eat. I can be sloppy, make a mess, but as long as the ingredients are measured properly and mixed in the right order it'll still taste good.

Straying from the recipe while baking ends to have more drastic effects, combined with the fact that you usually leave it in the oven for the entire cooking time, so you can't fix things on the fly like with cooking. I think with enough experience, you can be more creative while baking. I'll usually add a bit more vanilla than a recipe calls for when baking cookies and cakes, I sometimes replace oil with butter, and when it comes to cornbread, I'll replace some sugar with honey and then add some chopped jalapenos.

But yeah, I've slowly learned the joy of cooking, and if it's a creative outlet for you, then stick with it. It's one of my favorite stress relievers, and I love coming up with a new recipe and sharing it with friends and family.

UpboatOrNoBoat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:35:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My ex-girlfriend's family did this same shit, and surprise surprise, Minnesotan family. Meat, tomato sauce, macaroni noodles, salt and pepper.

The first time me and her made it together, I used a shitload of seasonings and she freaked out like I was ruining a meal. Bitch, adding garlic, basil, thyme, and sauteed onions is basic shit.

It's really hard to convince somebody to season their food if they've never had it done growing up. The same thing with overly picky people whose parents never made them eat anything new. I met a 19 year old girl who couldn't eat anything other than burgers or hotdogs for dinner. So sad.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:22:49 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have a theory about why people in the upper Midwest are like that. There's a lot of German heritage in the region. When I traveled to Germany a few years back, I experienced similar bland food. I was warned about the peppercorns being "very" spicy. The horrified look on my German friends' faces when I popped one in my mouth was priceless. Germans make great beer, but the food is so, so bland. I made chili for them, and used only 1/4 of the recommended spices. It was not hot to me, but my German friends were sweating and saying how hot it was.

So, that's my theory. Also, my mother was a big fan of liverwurst. Ick.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:31 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, paprika is a nice touch. My mother would make spaghetti with ketchup. I swear, she just cooked because she had to and that was it.

Five years ago, she gifted me the contents of her spice cabinet when she was cleaning it out. There were several spices from the 1970s that she'd never even cracked open or barely used.

I took pictures of the containers and then threw them out.

gavers ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 08:03:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

TBH, a good steak (when cooked properly) will be good with only salt and pepper too.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:43:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, or even just cooked properly in its own juices. I get that seasoning can make food amazing, but reading some of the replies here makes me wonder if some people can't taste the actual beef or chicken.

kinkachou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:23:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

True, but I still prefer a bit of garlic, shallots, and red wide reduction sauce with my steak though.

gavers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:09:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I agree.

monsterpoint ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:34:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I work at a mexican restaurant, people tell me chorizo is spicy, its not spicy.

Shaigair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:45:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It definitely has more heat than other cured meats, but no, it isn't spicy in the least bit.

D-Cal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:49:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I grew up in the south and had a lot of delicious food, but my parents still overcooked chicken and steak.

kinkachou ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:49:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

At least you probably had some gravy to smother it with if it was too try or flavorless. When I was a hostel cook Southerners would always tell me to smother the entire plate in gravy. Someone once told me my homemade gravy tasted almost as good as their grandmother's, and I consider that one of the best compliments I've ever gotten on my cooking.

funobtainium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:42:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My husband is great at making gravy of any kind (and other sauces) and it has assured his place in my heart forever.

imnotcreative_1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:08:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My poor child you need some good barbecue right now.

kinkachou ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:15:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That does sound good. I've been in Asia for the last 6 months, so not many chances for authentic Southern-style BBQ.

Shaigair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:46:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Korean barbecue?

ichbindeinfeindbild ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:05:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that literally thinks ketchup is too spicy

W H I T E P E O P L E

kinkachou ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:06:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, that is pretty much a giveaway.

Cantreadmyownwriting ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:14:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That sounds thoroughly lovely. Good on you for expanding your horizons

boofus_dooberry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:49:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like that good ol' German and Polish cooking

oiimn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:44:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

now i understand the black meme of white americans not knowing how to cook. Jesus fuck i feel so bad for you guys

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:23:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents are the same. No spices and everything overlooked. Didn't realize I liked food until living with a foodie roommate.

rhinocerosGreg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:40:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My Canadian Maritimes parents are the same way. Microwaved potatoes and overdone chicken or steak with canned peas or corn were the average meal. I would be overjoyed when they made KD or 'spaghetti' or something with even the slightest hint of flavour. Now when I make something with any herbs or spices or sauces or even other vegetables in it my mom complains about the smell and will have to pick out every little onion or green pepper or whatever she sees

Jozz11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:41:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

After I read this I kinda wanted to come and have a crawfish boil for your parents... Lol just being in the same neighborhood of the smell may melt their skin off though.

Rotom-W ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:54:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Southern cooking is the best. Mmm ribs

poopwithjelly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:58:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Finish the story. Then you got diabetes.

kinkachou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:01:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm probably on the way. I'm currently in Asia and trying to eat local food though, so that's helping. I lost 30 lbs by eating Japanese food for 3 months.

poopwithjelly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:57:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's fine, when you come back to Dallas Ft Worth Airport, they'll getcha. Then they have the defib on the wall t get you back.

Sonja_Blu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:00:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait, what? Ketchup is spicy? How??

kinkachou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:05:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know, other than it's red, so it might look spicy. Maybe if you mistake vinegar for spiciness. I've never understood it and probably never will. Luckily, I cook my own food now, so they can eat their bland food without me.

Sonja_Blu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But how do you go through life without trying ketchup? And if you have tried it, how can you come to the ridiculous conclusion that it's spicy? I don't understand this on any level.

printandpolish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:27:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

yep. same thing happened to me. luckily married a southern gentleman who loves cooking.

professorbooty11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:54:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My now wife hated steak when we first met. Same reasons as you; dry chewy meat. She had only had poorly cooked round steak and other cheap cuts it turns out. She now loves a well cooked ribeye medium rare. I don't get how people will justify spending $25 on a delivered pizza but will not spend the same on some quality steaks.

ICanWittleALittle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

From my experience, most "poor" or "poorer" whites love hotsauce in the midwest. If you live in a burb or complex; it's too hot.

Marty_McFly___ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:10:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad uses too much spice. He puts paprika on hamburgers.

caffeineme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

growing up in the Midwest with a family that literally thinks ketchup is too spicy

This is all too common in the midwest. I live there, love some spicy, but have to be careful who I make it for since even the mention of hot sauce or anything beyond "mild" salsa can render an entire meal inedible.

erictheastronaut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh god I am having flashbacks to my Swedish ex. He thought black pepper was too spicy.

I looooooooooooove spices and I love spicy food. I want to try all the flavors! I want to eat all the colors! He liked potatoes, dill and sour cream. It was torture for me.

TaylorS1986 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

thinks ketchup is too spicy.

WAT??? I hate ketchup exactly because it is bland as fuck, and I'm a Midwesterner.

Letty_Whiterock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:00:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ketchup being too spicy? What. How. Not possible.

Gertiel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:29 on August 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had the same thing happen growing up in the Midwest with a family that literally thinks ketchup is too spicy.

My family is from the midwest as well. Growing up the food at family reunions was a miracle of blandness. Everything tasted the same. The older generation especially overcooked absolutely everything. Even vegetables. I didn't realize asparagus wasn't a soft green mash until I went to a steakhouse when I was 14.

Like you I eventually managed to come across recipes that made me realize a giant sixty gallon pot of chili can have more than a teaspoon of chili powder without being "so hot you can't put it in your mouth". Three pounds of hamburger for tacos needs more than a tablespoon of taco mix, and you'll really love it if you slow cook a pork roast with garlic, cinnamon, chili powder, cumin, chilies, salt, and pepper in a little cider vinegar and honey or even beer, then break it up and serve it in soft corn tortillas with avocado, red onion, cilantro, and lime. There are more ways to eat pork chops than to throw them into a blazing hot skillet and fry them until they are tough as shoe leather with charcoal edges.

I have to wonder where did that come from?

Aflipp ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 05:19:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had an ex that boiled her steak. I had to drown that gray lump of meat in BBQ sauce to eat it.

solo2070 ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 05:23:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's why she is your ex right?

mockturtlesays ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 05:33:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Did she boil it in milk and serve it with a side of raw jellybeans too?

Lunchbawks7187 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:57:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

With all the food comments I've been waiting for this reference. Thank you.

joecoolbeans ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:29:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What's this from?

SergeantMatt ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:22:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia.

bless_ure_harte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:47 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And serve gummi candy with thawed spincach and horse flesh

Proton84 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:11:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What fuckery is this? Horrible...just horrible

turkishdelightbribe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:04:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

and a side of jelly beans too, i hope

stufff ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:05:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is when you take over cooking duties for that food item.

My ex made pasta by cooking the pasta and then opening the can of cold maranara sauce and dumping it on top, because "the hot pasta warms up the sauce"

I took over cooking pasta.

Gwapejuice ยท 100 points ยท Posted at 05:17:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This. My parents think I'm a horrible cook because my food has "too much flavor." Not everything is supposed to taste like wet cardboard.

DancingKumquats ยท 77 points ยท Posted at 05:22:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Too MUCH flavor??? Impossibru.

Sipiri ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 05:50:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

oh, honey. Ever accidentally used way too much ginger?

liftstropical ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 06:28:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

WHAT

YOU CAN NEVER HAVE TOO MUCH GINGER ONLY TOO LITTLE OTHER INGREDIENTS

lewright ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:46:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What if you were reaching for garlic powder and didn't check the label before seasoning? It was an interesting pizza...

Earth_Bug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:13:16 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know... I make a chili called aloha chili that has a ton of ginger in it. Also pineapples, coriander and some other complimentary ingredients. It's pretty fucking tasty. I bet if you threw some ginger on pizza with the right ingredients, it would come out pretty tasty.

shadowsong42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:12 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I put too much powdered cloves in my molasses spice cookies once. If you ate two of those in a row, your tongue would go numb.

ThatGodCat ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 06:31:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I will literally gnaw on a ginger root plain don't even start with me about too much ginger because I will not understand

Crocoduck_The_Great ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:33:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Very, very possible. You can ruin food by putting too many different seasonings on it. One thing that many, many people over season with is garlic. I mean, I like garlic when I cook, but I want to taste the other ingredients too.

Jaerba ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:06:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It is though. Over seasoning is one of the worst mistakes people make when they start learning to cook.

Under seasoned food is bland, but can be fixed. Over seasoned food is fucked.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:55:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Impossibru

wat

[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 07:09:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents think I'm a horrible cook because my food has "too much flavor."

Laughed out loud

ActuallyRelevant ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:18:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The amount of parents who don't know how to cook coming through in this thread is making me so irrationally mad.

Like shit do we need to have some cooking classes thrown in as a requirement if you get pregnant?

Jaerba ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:10:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think a lot of them were influenced by shitty low-fat cooking advice in the 70's and 80's. People were following the instructions on the back of Kraft boxes instead of Julia Child.

You_Stealthy_Bastard ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 05:20:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hated steaks for years because my dad always bought cheap cuts and destroyed them in the oven's broiler.

Years ago I bought my own steak and was amazed that it actually tasted good.

dirtyploy ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 06:01:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Right there with you. I realized my parents sucked at cooking, period. Then I learned the art of grilling, and my girl is an amazing cook. Yay actual flavor!

BlueHeartBob ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 07:04:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I believe it's because our parents didn't have access to 2 minute long internet videos that has top chefs from around the world explain how to cook anything imaginable in 1080p step by step instructions. Back then they had... cook books and the cooking channel, so unless your parent was a foodie/cook, then odds are they probably sucked at cooking.

exdeez ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:13:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents just cooked whatever their parents cooked, which I assume was delicious Mexican cuisine, because that's what my mama makes.

ChaoticMidget ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:40:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You make a good point about the access of culinary information now. I still can't imagine the concept of trying to cook something now on my own rather than figuring out how to actually cook it and then expanding from that. Like if I never knew how to cook a steak, I wouldn't suddenly decide to buy steak and wing it. My first thought would be going to a restaurant and seeing how it's done there or asking a friend who clearly knew what they were doing.

-Mr-Jack- ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:43:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But most people in the 80s that I know had at least one decent cookbook lying around. Like $5 for a cookbook the size of a phonebook.

That's enough basics and intermediary knowledge to make good food and go from there. If they had cookbooks, they had no excuses.

dirtyploy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:07:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's actually a GREAT explanation. I mean, most of what I learned is from my gf (whose mother is an amazing cook) and from youtube.

Now I kinda feel sorry for them ><

laenooneal ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:19:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had this issue where my dad would buy the steaks with a ton of gristle. They weren't the cheap cuts, but he just preferred fatty steaks. He would cook them all to medium done over a charcoal grill so the gristle was charred and black on the outside but chewy on the inside. Just the memory of accidentally biting into a piece of that makes me want to throw up. I would only eat like two or three bites of the very center of a steak as a kid in fear of accidentally eating some of the fat.

bless_ure_harte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:52 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wut! The fat on steak is delicious

kevo31415 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 05:42:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I never thought how weird it would be if my parents were bad at cooking. You always see in marketing and stuff phrases like "mom's home cooking" and "grandma's secret recipes" and I feel like people just take it for granted that their mom is great at cooking.

Jaerba ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep.

On a side note, I remember black mole at a Mexican restaurant. They claimed it was "grandma's secret homemade recipe". It was awful. I wonder if anyone told them their grandma's mole sucks.

ILikeLeptons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

maybe it was huitlacoche? did it kind of look like this?

Jaerba ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:49:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, it looked like regular mole. My suspicion is that no grandmas were involved, cause it had way too much sugar in it. It wasn't very complex, mostly just sweet.

[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 05:50:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same. I invited my dad over for steak once amd all he did was complain the steak still had red in the middle. Said shut the hell up amd eat it. Grills off. He was happy after the first bite. Juicy, tasty and not chewy. Sorry mom. You suck at cooking.

[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 07:11:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ugh. My dad ruins roast beef for the entire family because he refuses to eat it if it's still red in the middle.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:00:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I just threw up in my mouth. Slap him.

_The_Real_Guy_ ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:19:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm with you on that one. I actually HATED steak with a passion because it was never good. My mom ended up just having my stepfather not cook me anything and I'd just eat a baked potato and a salad.

919Esq ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:47:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This one has come up several times here, and my mom is the same way. I'm wondering if the discovery of salmonella, etc. tainted a generation of moms.

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 12:42:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I remember constant news reports back in the 90s about the dangers of raw and undercooked meats. I think this scared the pants off the Baby Boomers.

Ihavenogoodusername ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:44:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If meat is cooked right, sometimes all you need is salt and pepper.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:45:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If meat is cooked perfectly, you don't even need that.

haanalisk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:51:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Especially if it's cooked with salt and pepper

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:25:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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makeshift-damselfly ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:32:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's what my brother does when he's cooking. Call me crazy but I'm 99% sure that chicken noodle soup doesn't need to have allspice and cardamom in it.

Ovenproofcorgi ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:19:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am so, so, so glad I didn't have to deal with this. See, my dad used to be a chef and used to own restaurants, so I never ate tasteless food.

I'm sorry you grew up with that. But at least you're not eating it anymore.

kitteninabowtie ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:04:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It is interesting this generation gap in the 60s--80s which real home cooking just disappeared. I wonder if it has to do with the combination of the introduction of tv dinners, the microwave and women entering the workforce had anything to do with it. Women and mothers weren't able to slave away all day to make a good meal, so they turned to fast and easy dinners to heat up. When they are given recipes from their mothers, they turn their intuition toward the news (salmonella) rather than culinary experts. Say what you will about them, but Paula Deen, Rachael Ray and the Food Network in general (including other cooking mags) really began to focus on pivoting to faster, more varied recipes to cater to this crowd. In turn, in the last 15-20 years supermarkets began to expand their produce and meats aisle. The good news is you (or your significant other) won't be cooking well done steaks or boiled chicken much more.

TaylorS1986 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:59:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think another thing is that back then processed food was considered better and healthier than home-cooked meals because SCIENCE and the cult of "better living through chemistry", as well as consumers being more naive and thus more suceptible to marketing BS. It wasn't until the 90s when Boomers took control of society that this sort of thinking was overthrown.

WolfeBane84 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:49:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well to be fair, prepared right, salt and pepper is all you really need on a good steak.

Kobluna ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:34:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Though salt and pepper are some of the best

Christowfur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:37:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dude, same exact thing with me. * high five *

thesunscreen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:16:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same thing I hated steak as a child until I ordered on in a restaurant. Then I found out she had been over cooking it my entire life.

kahvikameli ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:28:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This. I always said I hate chicken until my friend cooked me some amazing chicken that wasn't dry as hell.

jwalk999 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:50:55 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

what if it was on purpose, by exposing you to only terribly cooked stuff, they indirectly enhanced your later experiences with new tastes and foods, either that or they just really sucked at cooking and you have no idea what i'm talking about, but let's be honest, who is even reading this in the first place am i right?

hansgrubermustdie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:25 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is my favorite response but no, that wasn't it at all. Nothing has changed in her cooking, but my dad and everyone else loves when I come home and cook.

jwalk999 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:12:05 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well its nice to dream i guess

tocilog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like I'm the opposite. I had to relearn to love the food my parents used to cook. There are a couple of dishes that are a staple to any Filipino household (nilaga, sinigang, tinola, etc.) and we'll have these every week on average from the day I could eat solid food until I moved out. I was so sick and tired of it all that I swore to whatever god was listening 'never again!' Now I find myself trying to rediscover these dishes. Once in a while I'll call my mom asking for recipes and tips on how to cook this or that.

WiredHair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Omg yes!

Deoxys2000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mine was more like chicken in the outside world is not soft as your mother's chicken XD

Felkyr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:16:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh yeah. Feelin' this one. My parents had their moments. But usually if I tried to experiment, they'd just be like "Uh.. where's this one from?".

pajamakitten ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:29:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Salt and pepper weren't even used in my family. You got food as it was, overcooked and no seasoning, that was it. It's no wonder I drowned my food in ketchup, that was the only thing allowed in the house that added flavour to food.

jennydancingaway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:29:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Its amazing how many of us ate gross food growing up lol

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:41:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel so happy reading all of these posts about moms fucking up chicken and steak. I'm not alone in my suffering. It feels so... nice

afroturf1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:42:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

White people and their fear of spices.

WhyDidI_MakeThis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:44:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There are more seasonings available than salt and pepper.

Jesus, I wish my dad had this problem. He's always dead-set on using enormous amounts of some uncommon (for the U.S.) seasoning or condiment in his cooking. It's the worst when he tries it with soy sauce, though. Simple stir fry? Add soy sauce until it tastes like an entire salt shaker was upturned into it. Chicken on the grill? Marinate it in nothing but soy sauce overnight. At least when he does this with turmeric the food is still enjoyable despite being neon yellow.

CarnifexMagnus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:48:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I seem to be the only one in this thread who enjoys food cooked that way

Benjirich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:52:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I needed to learn that cooking isn't that easy. My mom cooked dinner every day, fresh meat, salad, everything. I always wanted just pizza. Now I need to eat pizza soaking in tears because I miss the good food and cooking is hard and expensive.

rockychunk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:22:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It was that way with vegetables in my home growing up. Everything had to be boiled until it barely resembled its original form. Green beans were grayish brown. Same with broccoli, brussels sprouts, peas, asparagus, etc...

Then I moved out and learned that you could just steam veggies for a few minutes, and it was like a whole new world opened up for me!

scienceisanart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:29:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't like steak as a kid for that reason, but I didn't realize why until I started cooking and ordering my own damn steaks

Jpxn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:03:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

YES! my dad always use to overcook steak. until we went out to eat it. medium rare was so good :D he would always cook it over and make it dry. but back then i thought it was nice as i had never had a good steak ....

too_much_feces ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:03:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sometimes salt and pepper is the only seasoning you should use when I grill steaks I use salt, pepper, and garlic powder nothing more nothing less and it comes out delicious.

DrAgonit3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:20:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You'll soon reach the point where you realize that salt and pepper are all you need to spice up a steak.

Koras ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:22:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Any simple favourites? I'm currently discovering this after years of microwaving meals after moving out because I just assumed I didn't really like the stuff my mum used to cook (apart from fruit curry, she made a mean one of those)

pm_me_hedgehogs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:28:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ugh this :( my dad taught me that steaks should have no pinkness AT ALL to them

Arialene ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:31:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes. And things on the grill don't have to have a level of char on them.

bdyelm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:33:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're not the only one. Others have made this comment as have I. :-(

I recently learned it should be cooked for like 9 minutes (9-12 I think) in a frying pan and is especially good cooked in olive oil.. But not that cheap shit, get something from Italy, Greece or Spain. :-(

Endulos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:44:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom never uses salt. Salt according to her is bad. Sure, a lot of it is bad, but when you're god damn cooking you need to throw a little bit in there.

My Mom nearly threw a shit fit when she learned I added a tiny bit of salt to Kraft Dinner. Like, Mom, why do you think when I make Kraft Dinner it tastes so good? It's because I fucking use salt.

Sz-Aze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:56:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lawrys seasoning salt .... game changer

OrangeredValkyrie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:01:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This happened when my parents divorced and suddenly we didn't have to cook the same way as my dad's mother.

Throwawaymyheart01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:08:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Gray steak oh gawd (gag)

paracelsus23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:28:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yup. In my household steak was always cooked well done on the light side, all the way through leather. I could never figure out why people considered it a delicacy - it was disgusting! Then I had steak at a restaurant, medium rare (at the insistence of a friend). It was heaven.

Crazycatlover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:31:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents cook meat perfectly. I swear, either Mom or Dad could buy the cheapest cut available and turn it into a gourmet dish. Vegetables, on the other hand, were always boring and bland. Mom and Dad did insist that we eat all our vegetables (so yay for keeping us healthy) before getting meat. I was in my mid-twenties before I found that veggies can be delicious instead of duty.

armadillounicorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:34:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Man your parents used pepper??? Our food had only 2 flavours - burnt and salt. Pepper was far too exotic

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:35:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My father cooks better than most restaurant chefs, I find it hard to even imagine parents who cook bad food

nevenoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:02:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep same. Learned that after 18 when I moved out...

TitanicJedi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:13:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair. I vary my types of salts and peppers and i still love just thos two on my steaks.

JohnLocke815 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:15:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Steak was a big one for me. Up until i was about 26 i hated steak. Until my girlfriend made a steak and forced me to try it. It was tender and juicy and full of flavor.

Turns out i love steak, just my dad had no clue at all how to cook it

mikeyBikely ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:20:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandmother once said to my mom (who cooks well), "oh honey, the string beans aren't done. They're still green"

4look4rd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:49:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Although I'd argue that salt and pepper really is all you need for steak. I've seem so many good steaks destroyed by shitty sauces.

smack-yo-titties ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:53:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bro, salt and pepper are the perfect seasonings. You really just need to use them properly. Ain't much better than a t-bone with a course salt crust.

supposedlyitsme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:57:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like this is how Europeans felt like when new spices came from Asia.

roryr6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:59:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think my mum thinks that using salt an pepper is an insult and the salt is bad for you. :(

Bonobosaurus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:02:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had no idea steak could be delicious until my 20s.

JTanCan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:03:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Didn't know what salmon was supposed to taste like until I was about 25. Mom would always set it under the broiler for a good long time.

I never had salmon at home that had not caught fire. literally

I would mash it up and mix it with rice, butter, and cheese. She served it with white rice and I would ask to get some butter and cheese from the fridge. Essentially I made my own imprompu cheesy rice.

That may sound like a crime against salmon but this stuff had less taste than canned salmon and it was like eating dry dirt.

timedragon1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:15:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My Mom is very guilty of overcooking steak.

I told her that it's fine for Steak to have red in it but she's convinced that if it's not overcooked we're all gonna die of several diseases.

NZ_NZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:17:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

where do you live? ethiopia?

at least you know how a centurion ate in the legion.

BombedShaun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:44:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This was me. I hated steak until I was 19 and learned to cook.

DirkRight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:48:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother used very little salt in her cooking, if at all, because her family has a history of heart disease. However, she also used very little of everything else of spices and condiments, unless it was already in a ready-made bag of stuff to go with pasta or veggies or whatever. Now I live on my own, I use spices or condiments at every dinner.

jcheah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:06:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mate exactly the same situation I cook at home for the family now and my parents appreciate the good food

AccountWasFound ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:15:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom will microwave chicken till it is dry and chewy then get upset that me and my dad refuse to eat it... It's even worse because I offer to cook it instead, and she tells me that she's been cooking since before I was born, so I need to stop complaining about how she cooks....

reapy54 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:30:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hope you have your parents over from time to time to eat or bake them some stuff.

My mom is a terrible cook but I don't blame her because she was working and then expected to cook family meals when she got home too, nothing ever struck me as wrong about this until later in life because it was just how it was in the house.

My sister went on to learn to be an amazing cook, cooks all the time for her in laws, hardly cooks for my mom.

MCXL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:33:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can make amazing beef with just salt and pepper tho, it just requires you to understand how to cook it.

ChoptankLive ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:36:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Boiled veggies. With salt. When the green is mostly gone they are ready to eat.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:39:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair, salt and pepper is all you need for a steak (that is cooked correctly ๐Ÿ˜Š)

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:42:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad always cooked tough, dry, flavorless steaks he'd drown in A-1 sauce just to get it down. I didn't realize steak was good until i was an adult.

johngreenink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:52:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

this. In retrospect, my mom was able to make some delicious food once in a while, but she could not cook chicken or steak (exactly as you described above). World of difference when I was able to cook for myself.

pyroaring ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:55:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here. My mother would make steak and it was always so tough and chewy so I just assumed I hated steak. Then I met my father-in-law who is an amazing cook and had steak at restaurants and realized how meh my mom's cooking is.

rettshift ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:58:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was young I would be stuck at the table for hours because the dry chewy steak my family cooked was hard on my jaw and I hated steak because of it.

In my teens I had a good steak and learned that my mother and grandfather just like their meat very well done.

I also hated chicken because my mother would cook the one super dry chicken recipe she knew. It wasn't until I graduated high school that I decided I liked it again, when I realized chicken comes in a lot of delicious forms

Eggsd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:06:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And then Father Fieri flew down in his flying hot rod and took you by the hand on a sizzle blasting trip to flava-town

WickedDick_oftheWest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:10:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My girlfriend was like this when I first met her. She thought steak was awful because the only way her parents would cook it is well done and butterfly cut. We had steak at my house and I bought her a 2 inch thick filet mignon and cooked it just below medium to see if she'd like it. Seasoned it thoroughly. She said it was the best meal of her life. Her mom still gives her an evil eye when she orders medium well steaks at a steakhouse. I can't help but laugh when her mom is gnawing on shoe leather the whole meal

whome2473 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:15:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had grey meat once, it turned out to be from a dog.

EviX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:16:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is rough, but I didn't like bacon until a few years ago. I realized bacon isn't supposed to be burnt char... I learned there's thick cut bacon. 32-3 = a sad baconless life

JohnnyWhiteguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:16:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't know what flavor was until I met my future wife. Until age 17, I had never had seasonings besides salt and pepper, never had cheese on anything, never had any types of condiments whatsoever, and basically ate the same couple things all the time because I never knew anything else existed. I married a Greek girl, and Greeks cook...a lot...and her mother couldn't believe all the things I had never had before. They took me out to dinner at Olive Garden...and I had never been there before...had no idea what spaghetti sauce even tasted like. They couldn't believe my reaction when I discovered flavor for the first time.

GatorGladiator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:18:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In a way she was simultaneously your hero. If you hadn't grown up with such dull foods, you wouldn't be as able to appreciate the fancy, flavorful stuff.

happy_tomato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:29:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is me lol. Did you grow up in Eastern Europe? I visited my grandmother there recently and made the most basic chicken recipe and she was surprised it could taste so good and not take a lot of effort. I only added some spices and didn't overcook it.

Bachs_fingering ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:40:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here. I was a vegetarian for four years because I just hated the way meat tasted. Then I took a bite of steak cooked medium and my eyes were opened.

noscope360gokuswag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:42:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I always felt overly privileged because my father was always an excellent home cook. He would make us whatever random food he felt like making, spent hours researching cooking techniques, and it was always something amazing.

But when I went to friends houses for dinner I almost couldn't eat most of the time. Why was everyone else's cooking literally dry tough chewy meat and food with no seasoning, or 10 minute overcooked pasta and a can of ragu? My friends would always either come to my house and devour everything in seconds, or pick it aside because "I don't like X or Y or Z" when in reality they just never tried it because their parents taste buds are broken

RedditnuB2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:50:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This was my childhood. My dad believed the only seafood was broiled cod with a squeeze of lemon and my parent think mild salsa is spicy.

rr_coyote ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:52:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This. It wasn't until I started cooking for myself that I ever got food with seasoning, or a medium-rare steak.

ChromeLynx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:58:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother hated porkchops as a child, because her mother couldn't make them properly. As a result, they were cooked entirely through and had the approximate consistency of a shoe sole. When my dad and her were becoming a serious thing, she quickly unlearned that about porkchops.

whiskeytango55 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can show you the world - spicy, savory, salty

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:02:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A quality steak that is prepared properly only needs salt and pepper.

prettylittleliongirl ยท 2749 points ยท Posted at 02:18:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

To be a bystander, for lack of a better term. My parents are very against me standing up for others and even myself in some cases, and I had to learn that standing up for other people is the right thing to do.

Also how to pronounce cucumbers.

Edit: For those of you wondering, they pronounced it "coo-coom-bers"

pumpkinbot ยท 1686 points ยท Posted at 06:18:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A few years back, our upstairs neighbors in our apartment would fight at least two or three times a week. I'd always mention to my family that I wanted to call the police, because we all know there's some kind of abuse going on upstairs, but my grandma insisted I "stay out of it".

One night, I couldn't stand it, so I took my dog out for a walk, and, while I was out, called the police. I come back home five to ten minutes later, and the police are outside. I feign surprise to my family. "Neighbors to their side must have finally called," my grandma said.

Yeah, at least someone called eventually, right? I mean, hypothetically, if we did call sooner, sure, we'd save someone upstairs months and months of abuse, but...eh, it's best we stay out of the way, right? /s

A week later, the apartment above us was empty, and the girl was nowhere to be seen with them.

My family still doesn't know I was the one that called, but I'm still damn proud that I did. Didn't even realize how much this riles me up until I typed this out, holy shit.

mrmoe198 ยท 436 points ยท Posted at 08:34:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Weird how your grandma seemed to express relief about others calling, as if the right thing had to be done, but just not by anyone in the family.

JakePops ยท 244 points ยท Posted at 11:25:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Grandma probably just didn't want anyone in her family to get involved, in fear of possible retaliation.

thilardiel ยท 97 points ยท Posted at 12:39:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Which is totally real. There's a reason cops hate domestic calls they are the most likely to be deadly.

iamtoastshayna69 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:20:27 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was a victim of domestic violence once. My ex tried to choke me and our roommate pulled him off me and threw him into the kitchen. At that point I told him I'd had it and called the cops. He got charged with domestic assault. I still talk to him and he's definitely settled down since then. He moved back in a year later and didn't threaten me once (No we didn't get back together, he just needed a place to stay, I was dating someone else who was living with me at the time) He moved out later and moved to a bigger city on his own and I talk to him from time to time.

falconPancho ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 13:20:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The fear of retaliation is real. Whenever I've reported or put myself in an situation like that I made sure I had the biggest metal bar in my hands and a few buddies or neighbors on hand. This was a much younger stupider me and two times it almost came down to me having to beat the life outta the guy. I don't recommend fighting fair in situations like this, you will hold back, that kind if creep may not. Now that I have a family that depends on me and I have little 4 year old bystanders I'm not sure I could do the same.

NOT_A_MELT ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:27:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep, exactly. My husband and I lived in a pretty dang bad apartment situation for two years. For the last year we had some neighbors across the hall who were always screaming at each other and fighting.

One night I went to walk our dog, and I stopped right before I opened the door because I could hear that someone was getting beat up - no shouting, just the breathing and hitting. We called the cops and overheard the entire arrest. One of the guys was really hopped up on something and he'd beat up his sister's ex. He was yelling about people minding their own business, and he was getting increasingly violent. The sister was begging him to calm down.

It took WEEKS to get them fully evicted. I was scared every time either of us had to leave the building. I don't think they ever found out who made the call, which in hindsight might be the only reason why we were safe after that.

WhiskeyCup ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 14:08:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some people think that if they call the police that they will be interviewed and questioned or that the police would be like "hey so the Johnsons called..." not realizing you can give anonymous tips.

[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 15:02:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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sparrow5 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:24:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You don't have to say who you are to call something in.

escalat0r ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:50:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

With many departments you can even send in tips via the internet so it can be almost completely anonymous without you even having to call.

Rokusi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:18:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or alternatively, you can have neighbor swearing vengeance against Buttplug4life87.

escalat0r ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:21:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

While you're actually called Buttplug4life86, they'll never find out muhahaha.

L3GION1183 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:05:44 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that's the bystander mentality. someone else will do it. it's why you get crowds of people who will watch a tragedy happen but no one will do anything. there are other people. someone else will do something.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:00 on September 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is super common unfortunately. Many people don't want to cause a fuss or don't want to face retaliation.

[deleted] ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 08:30:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You should be proud of what you did.

And also understand that your grandparents may have been opposed to intervening because:

  • getting into a fight with your neighbour is a terrible thing
  • when a couple abuse each other, they will both turn on anybody intervening in unity and attack that person

In this case you did the right thing reporting the incident anonymously. The only time you identify yourself in a dispute with a neighbour is when you're bigger and stronger than they are and can win a protracted campaign.

pipsdontsqueak ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 06:54:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's great and all, but how do you pronounce cucumbers?

[deleted] ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 07:07:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom pronounces them like cuck-cume-bers

J_Ardent ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 07:33:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So do most Trump supporters.

trashcan86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:28:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's the sound you make while eating them.

pumpkinbot ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 08:38:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

CUCK-um-BEIRZH

It's a French word. Right?

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:17:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have no idea why but that made me laugh unreasonably hard

TheSecretExit ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:55:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nah, you never pronounce the last syllable in French.

Source: Duolingo learner frustrated with pronunciation.

zombieaxendra ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 07:02:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

que come burs

M0n3ySh0t ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:13:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i mean thats the only way right?

theacorneater ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:35:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My friend pronounces it cook-um-burs.

Xhynk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:45:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"quay-cuhm-bers"?

lesbefriendly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:55:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Key cuhm bers?

toocoolsquid ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:58:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Kukyoumbers? English is a weird language.

spiritbx ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 07:28:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You mean kyou-cum-bers.

You said cuck-youm-bers.

TheTrackPadUser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:06:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I pronounce it cucumbers.

prettylittleliongirl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:27:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Coo-coom-bers

Rustlingleaves1 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 06:54:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good job! The world needs more people who actually step in to help others. Your grandparents probably grew up when it was socially accepted that domestic abuse stayed within the home and it wasn't other peoples business. It's probably hard for them to unlearn that, because that's the way it used to always be, and was what their parents told them.

theshaolinbear ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:47:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good on you. Do you know why your grandma was so against calling?

pumpkinbot ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 08:39:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm assuming it was for our own safety, as if we called, police did nothing, and our neighbors found out, we could be on the bad side of a violent person.

...Which is why I called anonymously. :P

GrandMa5TR ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 07:15:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Not saying I agree with it but here is the logic.

  1. You don't know the full situation. With only snippets of information how can you make a rational decision? We've all had our moments where if someone walked in at that moment it would look really bad.

  2. Police do more harm than good, and it's better for people to resolve situations for themselves.

  3. If it doesn't effect you don't get involved.

  4. It's easy to get mixed up in the situation. Someone figures out who you are, they get mad, they have friends, they show up at your house.

  5. Being overprotective. Parents naturally care for their own kin more than others, and don't want to them to take risks.

  6. Generational differences. Every generation has different values, has different experiences, and lived in a different time.

MJWood ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:49:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Most likely just following the norm for her generation and it was probably more common when she was young.

walter-lego ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:53:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

These are all good reasons, I guess they are common values among conservatives, but if you hear someone getting hit for weeks, you have to take action or you become part of it.

theshaolinbear ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:38:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sure she had a reason, I was just wondering if he knew the specific one. Good list though.

bschug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:05:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Number 2 depends a lot on where you live though.

up48 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:31:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Respect dude, that took a lot of guts, and you did the right thing.

ChubbyHippo109 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:06:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is it bad that calling the police in this kind of situation wouldn't even occur to me? My mum taught me the opposite always help people, and in your situation I would've have just went upstairs and checked, but now I realize how dangerous that could be.

BenFoldsFourLoko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:05:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's really amazing of you.

I haven't seen anything like that happen, but on smaller scales I have. Sometimes I go by, sometimes I do something. I wanna do something whenever something like this happens, and this definitely gives me more... what's the word? I'm more driven/feel more like it's unquestionably the right thing.

Seriously, that's awesome of you.

Orafferty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:45:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Similar thing happened to me. I called on the guy who was like you described as well, the last straw in our case was him waving around a gun in the yard screaming how he would "kill that bitch" and the guy she was supposedly cheating on him with. They moved down the street and stuck together.

When the guy who owns the property opened the door, the house was destroyed. Holes in walls, filth, mold, bugs, broken fixtures all over.

They got the cops called on them by another neighbor earlier on for always having loud dogs barking at night, turned out they just kept them in a small closet under the stairs and bred them there. The walls were all claws and shite. Poor critters.

sleightofhand80 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:20:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You are totally justified in what you did, and should be commended. I've done this SEVERAL times for rowdy neighbors and never regretted it. You definitely did your good deed for the day and have inspired others with this post!

Genocide_Bingo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:22:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same thing with me, I was concerned for the safety of my neighbor since I could hear her husband hitting her every night. My family always made excuses for calling the police so I snapped and called them. Dude was arrested for abuse and rape, my family hated me until our neighbor told us that I had saved her as he held a knife to her throat that night after drinking too much. She helped finance my first car and is now happily married. I suppose my family was so opposed to ending abuse was because they were abusive to me.

Damn I actually feel pissed writing that out too. What the fuck is wrong with some people.

Amalia33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:39:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You did a good thing :)

ItsJustJoss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:54:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

but my grandma insisted I "stay out of it".

"Neighbors to their side must have finally called," my grandma said.

Well, that just set my blood to boiling.

TopMinotaur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a survivor of domestic abuse , thank you. I would no doubt be dead if it weren't for the neighbor who finally called the cops because I wasn't able to do so ( wasn't allowed my own cell phone ). Got my ass beat for 8 months without anyone being 'concerned' which inevitably lead me to believe I maybe did deserve it.

If you ever have the slightest amount of concern or fear or a stranger , do the right thing and do not let it go to the wayside for someone else to do the right thing .. It could be too late .

Jacewoop23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:14:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wish I had gold to give

pumpkinbot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:59:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

<3 Thank you, but there's really no need.

HeyShayThatRhymes ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 06:45:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to unlearn coupons. It's not coo-pins.

girlwithabird- ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 06:53:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But is it coo-pons or que-pons?

whentiredsleep ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 07:08:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ยฟยกPOR QUE-PONS!?

FrostBlade_on_Reddit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:31:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ke-pons?

HeyShayThatRhymes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:40:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Coo-pon? I think?

drdeadringer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Co-you-pons. I click on co-you-pons.

Jeeberdee ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 03:29:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How did you pronounce it before?

[deleted] ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 04:29:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe "coocoombers?" Phonetically, possibly. Am not OP.

max81968 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 06:19:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Likely "cuck-um-bers".

quinnpm5256 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 06:35:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

if thats the case theres no way the parents could say that without snickering amongst themselves afterwords

asp7 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 06:45:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

cuck 'em bears

prettylittleliongirl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:25:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep. That's exactly it.

Deoxys2000 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:22:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh the coocoomber. Many a time I've stood in the supermarket asking for coocoomber and getting confused looks.

Koras ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:24:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh my god I wonder if it's too late to teach my niece to mispronounce cucumber, that sounds hilarious

axeteam ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:06:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Q-cum-bers

Skreamie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:49:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait....that's wrong?

SooperDan ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:25:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nope. That's right. That's how I pronounce it.

euphemism_illiterate ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:06:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Its amazing how they just don't mention kukumbras

Rustlingleaves1 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:59:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

A few months ago, my mum came home and talked about how this woman went on a racial tirade at two Asian men (who were just at a petrol station minding their own business). I asked if she stood up for them, and my mum was like "it wasn't my place to do anything and I felt tired." She seemed shocked that I had expected her to defend them. It's pretty disappointing to realise that your mum is kind of a selfish person.

It's funny how all the lessons a parent teaches you when you're a child about "looking out for others" and "being kind" apparently doesn't apply to adults. So they kind of did teach us to stand up for others, but than they choose to ignore what they taught us when it comes to their own behaviour.

Teaboo_mom ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:41:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It depends on where you live. In the suburbs stand up for whatever but here in my city that's how you get hit or even shot.

pipsdontsqueak ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 06:55:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can get shot for pronouncing cucumbers wrong?? Where the fuck do you live?

M0n3ySh0t ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 07:30:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hidden Valley

drdeadringer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But that Ranch salad dressing...

Vleda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:48:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, if you're in a situation with violence you have to be able to be more than a mouthpiece if you're going to actively intervene. Gotta be capable of =< force. Most people are best off calling the police or being that guy recording shit on his phone.

Loving-love ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:53:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes! My partner and I were talking about this the other day, both our parents are the same! Also taught not to approach homeless people. It was a hard habit to get out of!

ShadowPhoenix22 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:21:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I just get too afraid and uncertain. Best I do is stare at them, worrying a dog's abused, or a child. I wish I knew to do it and if I did that I didn't go too far. Keep that up, lion.

PMmeyourfunbits ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:51:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How did they pronounce cucumbers? I can only think of the one way

prettylittleliongirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:26:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Coo-coom-bers

Zoninus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:54:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eh, my parents and my teachers tried to convince me of that, too. That went so far as when I asked them what I should do if I got harassed, if I should let them beat me up without resisting (I got bullied during all of middle school)? Their answer was "yes".

q6BhZxfJ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:42:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This baffles me.

jersh131 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:02:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How do you pronounce cucumbers?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:31:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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prettylittleliongirl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:45:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It sucks. Especially because I'm someone who wants to commit their life to serving others in some capacity. Whenever I'm out with friends and we see something that shouldn't be happening, I'm the one who stands up. And it's hard to recognize that while most families would love to have a kid like that, my family laughs at me when I try to do what I think is right and call it me being "too nice" or not having common sense. And it sucks.

And I'm not trying to hype myself because there is more I can do and I'm not perfect. But in that aspect I know I'm right and they keep telling me I'm wrong.

holyerthanthou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:35:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'd get grilled in my household for not standing up and standing my ground.

If something is wrong, speak up or get swept away in a mass of people thinking "someone else will do it". Not questioning is how the holocaust happened.

InitiallyAnAsshole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:42:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I got taught the opposite. My dad always taught me that I had to help people if they needed it. Car accident? Heart attack? Bullying? If you CAN, You have to help people who can't help themselves. He'd always say and I'll always here him say it, "be a good person and always do the right thing." He's a hell of a guy. Haven't seen him in a long time though.

sweatsandhoods ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Until you get punched in the face and get your front tooth knocked out for doing the right thing...

paracelsus23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:30:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not a fan of cuc-umbers?

Shittygraphs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:05:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How do you not pronounce it?

VehaMeursault ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:09:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Once you learn to properly judge what you genuinely feel you should do, you'll feel the confidence to do it in any situation.

Yesterday a foreign man with a child in his buggy was looking to cross a street filled with mean traffic, and I could see on his face he was afraid yet forced to do it.

I walked past with my family (and I was the youngest of the bunch), so I knew that if I helped him it would be noticed and talked about -- turned into 'a thing' somehow, like family always does.

Nevertheless, instead of seeing him run into traffic with his child out of whatever pressure he had on him, I (being a local) just walked up next to him, held his arm, and crossed the street, forcing the traffic to adjust to us, allowing him to follow.

It's how we do it in this town, and he'd never have known.

He was so thankful, and it all happened without saying a word.

It was a great moment, especially because, when I joined with my family again further down the road, they acknowledged it with nothing more than a "that was kind, son."

I helped a guy and his child, I made a decision regardless of my idea of peer pressure, I was proven wrong about that peer pressure, and I graduated my family's "you're a man now" exam.

It was nice.

cqm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:43:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's also a good way to get killed, in case you hadn't considered that reality

prettylittleliongirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:39:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know what you mean. But my parents believe in NEVER getting involved even when it won't really affect you. Like how they protested me calling my friend's mom when my friend was threatening suicide/running away. Or when my mom yelled at me for wanting to call animal control for a severely sick stray dog. There philosophy is just leave everything alone even when it can benefit SOMEBODY.

TheEmeraldArcher455 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:20:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom is like that, it's like she's afraid to help people. When I was around 19 we were in a parking lot and I notice this group of kids (like 13 year olds) circling one kid who was trying to walk away. I see one push him, rolled down my window and yelled knock that shit off. My mom peels out and starts scolding me about how those kids older brothers could come after me. I was dumbfounded especially since we were like an hour from home.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:38:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also how to pronounce cucumbers.

"Man and Wife" just like any other marriage. I wish people would get past their small mindedness about this.

smack-yo-titties ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:44:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad was the opposite. He's rule was that you never start trouble, but if someone brings it to you, you make sure they learn a lesson, and that we were always to stand our ground, and if somebody wasn't able to stand theirs, we have stand it for them. When I was in high school, my friends and I would sit next to the special ed kids or the unpopular kids, so if anybody had something shitty to say, we would be right there to make them eat their words. The downside is that at 31 years old, I'm still quick to grab a guy by his collar if I perceive a threat to someone who can't defend themselves. It was cool at 17 but troublesome in my 30s

jinxjar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:39:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Surely, someone else will stand up against injustice.

Yes. That one, is I.

danwroy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:51:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm cucu for cucumbers

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:01:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Indian family?

prettylittleliongirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:04:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Caribbean.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was wondering because my folks pronounce cucumber the exact same way and say the exact same thing

Stmpnksarwall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:26:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ha ha my MIL calls ziti "zitty". We tried to tell her, but she insists she can say it any way she wants.

GatorGladiator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:40:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They pronounced it "coo-coom-bers"

OH CANADA!!!!!

Just kidding, of course. But under that logic, they should've pronounced it "coo-coom-bears"

BlackBloke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Where were they from?

prettylittleliongirl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:31:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The Caribbean

BlackBloke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Figured. That's how every Jamaican I know pronounces it.

frausting ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sitting on my couch saying "coo-coom-bers" and laughing my ass off. Thanks for the great start to my Sunday morning

shinypenny01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I prefer "Cue-cum-bers"

FVCEGANG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:55:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well potato, poo-ta-ta...

Guess_whos_black ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you indian?

prettylittleliongirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Caribbean

Guess_whos_black ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ah

Mercinary909 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lol I can sympathize with having difficulty pronouncing things. I grew up not knowing how most big words were pronounced because I had never heard them spoken, and had only read them. Also despite living in the us i use the british pronunciations or words for things sometimes because I enjoyed (and still do enjoy ) british tv and movies and shows with british actors. It's only reinforced by my love for many british youtubers.

lipstickapocalypse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Omg, my mother still uses the word "gooms" instead of "gums" when referring to her teeth. My heart goes out to you.

drdeadringer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also how to pronounce cucumbers.

Edit: For those of you wondering, they pronounced it "coo-coom-bers"

I was imagining "cuh-cumbers".

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:35 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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prettylittleliongirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:59:04 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Caribbean

your_mind_aches ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:01 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What part of the Caribbean? Trini here and we've always said "Kyoo-cumba"

Cherish_Dipp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:50:07 on December 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ah! I had to learn this too! Stepping in to give money to a stranger or help someone who clearly needs it right then. Damn the consequences, you would expect them to help you if you were in that position!

FLABANGED ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:32:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

cuk-umb-ersssssssssssssssssssssssssss

ghryzzleebear ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:29:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Kyew-kom-bur

everythingis_PURPLE ยท 6320 points ยท Posted at 00:42:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Quantity over quality.

Though my family was economically stable, privileged even, my parents grew up in poverty. So their way of buying was to buy cheap. Which definitely should be taken into consideration but ultimately, if the quality is not there you end up spending more to continuously replace the item. We could afford to buy things of better quality that would last longer, but that's just not how they grew up.

It still hurts me to spill $60 on a nice pair of shoes that will last more than a year, but I have since learned that I would much rather spend this $60 one time, rather than getting 3 pairs of $20 crappy no-brand shoes that hurt my feet and fall apart every few months.

MR502 ยท 2731 points ยท Posted at 02:16:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I remember getting my first job and saving my money for an expensive pair of shoes and nice clothes for school. My parents were livid that I spent "good money" on "overpriced crap" and didn't care how I looked or that I spent my own money to buy what I liked. I asked them what should I have bought, they said I should've bought "cheaper clothes and shoes."

I knew that I had to buy better quality, because growing up the cheap stuff never lasted and didn't look good.

hansgrubermustdie ยท 1498 points ยท Posted at 02:48:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

โ€œThe reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money.

Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles.

But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.

This was the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' theory of socioeconomic unfairness.โ€

theniceguytroll ยท 262 points ยท Posted at 03:55:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As soon as I saw the OP, I knew this would be here. Damn Reddit teaching me to predict the hive mind.

[deleted] ยท 203 points ยท Posted at 04:11:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yup, if I had a nickel for every time I have seen this quoted on reddit I would have a damn fine pair of boots.

wENTtobuyweed ยท 114 points ยท Posted at 04:29:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I would have a nickel.

EpicWolverine ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 05:52:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same. I've never seen this before. I suppose I'm one of today's lucky 10,000.

Natanael_L ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 07:36:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can't say that and not link the xkcd

momomo544 ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 09:06:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well since he's not doing it...

Relevant xkcd

Astro4545 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:40:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm keeping that.

Aalnius ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:34:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

well you are a lucky one that means its unlikely for you to have experienced the joy of terry pratchett for the first time.

You definitely should rectify that though. I'd advise starting with Guards Guards but honestly any of the discworld novels are a great read.

EpicWolverine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:33:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I haven't. Thanks for the recommendation.

cohrt ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 14:11:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

well you are a lucky one that means its unlikely for you to have experienced the joy of terry pratchett for the first time.

i've seen this shit quote so many time that terry pratchett has been ruined for me.

lukefive ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

10,000 nickels buys a lifetime of boots

cohrt ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 14:10:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

is today your first day on reddit. this shit quote is posted in like 80% of the threads here. have you also not seen the sr-71 copypasta?

EpicWolverine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:11:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

redditor for nearly 5 years

Yup I'm new here. Sorry I haven't seen all the same things you've seen.

Pi4zza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:06:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same, never heard this quote in my entire life.

ihatethesidebar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Which ain't bad, 5 cents is 5 cents.

wENTtobuyweed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:28 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Which is more than I make when I get peed on.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:28:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eh, I would still probably have the soggy boots.

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:36:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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sleepytoday ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:58:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But if you got the expensive boots, you could eventually have 2 games. Priorities.

gxgx55 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:40:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're not just predicting the hive mind, you have become a part of the hive mind.

SD__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:44:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is that hive as in bees or hive as in the disease?

.

In any case, I will be able to feel them under my footsteps.

IQBot42 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:42:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What is this from?

Nickromex ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 03:56:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Terry Pratchett, Men at Arms

IQBot42 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 04:01:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My god, I keep telling myself to read Pratchet next. Thanks for the quick response!

Lulzorr ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 05:19:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

there's somewhat of a reading order that should help a bit when you do dig in.

/r/discworld doesn't recommend starting with the colour of magic (instead the witches or the watch) and Pterry himself had that to say about it. You can't really go wrong for a starting point, though. They're all amazing. Even the young adult novels. especially the young adult novels.

for example,

The blue men, for a moment, were in a pile on the hot, dusty road. One of them said, โ€œAw, crivens! I kicked meself in me own heid!โ€ And then they, too, vanished, but for a moment Tiffany saw blue-and-red blurs disappearing into the hedge.

There are also a couple made-for-tv movies that are pretty good, worth watching at least.

JBShy ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:30:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I started at the first book about a year ago and am almost done up to the 30th. I wouldn't have wanted to read them any other way. I like watching his style evolve. I also like that each book is a different subset of characters as I go along.

acend ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:37:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That reading order confused me even more, there's like 7 starting places? Well which one should I start with?

comic_serif ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:06:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The series has a few story arcs which focus on specific groups of characters, like the Witches, the Wizards of Unseen Academy, the Watch, Death and his relatives, Tiffany Aching and the Wee Free Men, Moist von Lipwig, plus a few others. You can start at any point (I personally started with Thief of Time, which still remains a favourite of mine), but it makes more sense to read the first book in the "arc".

Lulzorr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:55:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That depends on what kind of story you're after. Crime/detective - watch. Magic, dragons. Wizzards - colour of magic. The moist von lipwig novels are about industry. Theres more but on mobile at work.

maegris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The Hogfather is my wife and my favorite Holiday movie. All of the movies were rather well done.

Chaldera ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

See, I've read all of Discworld (even the Science of Duscworld series), Good Omens and The Long Earth, and out of all of his work the only ones I'm not too keen on are Maurice And His Educated Rodents and the Wee Free Men arc. I don't know what it is, but his young adult Discworld just doesn't get me; it didn't when I was a teenager, and it doesn't now.

Of course, a Pratchett book is still a damn good book; regardless of how much I enjoy it, it's still more fun than a lot of other books I've read

Nickromex ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:55:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No problem, have read a few of them but your PM has reminded me that I should probably read a few more in the near future, so cheers for that :)

karpathian ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 04:57:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I remember there being a guy who broke down how a person he knew bought cheap ass single ply toilet paper per roll and he got double quilted rolls for way less per roll because he got them in bulk from one of those membership only stores.

Miguelinileugim ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 04:17:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought the rich were rich because they earn money by the shitload

karpathian ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 05:10:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes and no, take housing for example: apartments cost 1k a month here, but a mortgage on a house for a larger living space could be as low as 300 a month, but to get a house you need like a 20% down payment. If you save up you can get the 20% and then only pay 300 just for the mortgage while the other person has to spend 1k a month. Now also remember you get to own a house and actually pay it off one day, the apartment will never be paid off, in the end you will be considered rich or doing better since you have more left over even if you both made the same.

Edit: this will also lead you to getting rich as money can make more money if you use it right.

eburton555 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 05:23:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know where you live but around NY rent and mortgage are fairly equal. In our case, it comes down to either selling your soul to that home for x years to pay for this house or paying a little bit more for a rented unit that you aren't bonded to. Either way you're fucked, because good luck selling that piece of shit house you can actually afford and have fun when the rent steadily increased every year by 50 to 100 dollars. It's not an easy choice here.

krails ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 07:12:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is true when you first buy the house. But after a few years, rent will have gone up while your mortgage stays the same.

8 years after buying our house, we would have to pay about $1000 more per month to rent than we pay in mortgage + taxes. Of course you still have maintenance and such, but it's still cheaper than renting.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Opportunity cost is high on that. The 20% down payment would do better in the stock market than it would on property.

krails ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:23 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sure, but first time homebuyers can start with 5% down. Although it's much smarter to put 20% down if you can to get the best rate.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:48 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It still makes a lot of assumptions. National average with homes only shows an increase of a hair over inflation long term. Add in interest, tax, maintainence and the opportunity cost and it's not a sure thing that buying makes you come out ahead. They can't all boom like California did.

eburton555 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:58:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah that's exactly what I said hahaha but for someone who either doesn't have the starting bank for a down payment or doesn't want to be tied to a house for years and years it's just not a viable option.

kerune ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:33:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not that you'd be able to do it where you live, but you don't absolutely have to put 20% down. We did the math and it wouldn't lower our mortgage by much, so we paid about 3k to get into an 85k$, 1600 sqft 4br 2.5ba townhouse and used the remaining money to update appliances and furniture.

IrishMedicNJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:44:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's great when 85k gets you that, outside of Philly, 85k gets you a rather nice single wide trailer park home. My 3bed 2.5 bath townhouse was 325k

12k would be roughly the same down payment, and no bank will finance that around here

kerune ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:56:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I'm really lucky that what I do would let me live in almost any location (large chain retail management) so Im not tied down to any one area for what I do.

eburton555 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:06:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's great if you are planning on staying at the same place for like a decade. But many are not!

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:14:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You only have to stay if the housing market crashes. Otherwise, leaving results in more money than you started with.

eburton555 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:46:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Assuming you can sell the place, right? These are all concerns that people have otherwise everyone who could would buy a place.

ctindel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:31:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Definitely, when we were looking to move from a 1br to a 2br in NYC the rent jump was so ridiculous that it made more sense to just buy a 2 family duplex and rent the other unit out.

EleventyThreve ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:49:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're thinking "right now" instead of long-term. No, you're not screwed either way. A fixed rate mortgage essentially becomes less expensive every year. As inflation and cost of living increases, your mortgage never varies. Rent goes up almost every year.

Unless you're in a very abandoned part of town (or you just don't take care of your home), property value almost never goes down over time.

eburton555 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:05:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Of course I am and many others are too. Not everyone can invest years and years into a mortgage or want to. I am a graduate student. Why would I buy a house when I could be anywhere across the country or world in a year or two? Etc Etc

EleventyThreve ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:25:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Valid point - there are always special circumstances which, in this case, make buying not feasible for you. Although it doesn't change the fact that buying is almost always the cheaper and more profitable option in the long term.

karpathian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:44:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well sucks over there, down here you'd be able to save up enough by owning 1 house that you can build a second and sell it for 40k profit.

neksus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:22:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Where might down here be?

citrus_slinger ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:04:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A shitty place that nobody wants to live and that's why the real estate market is bad enough that you can have a mortgage of 300/month.

I'm not sure if there's a house on the market in my city that isn't a tear down of in the complete ghetto with a standard mortgage of less than 2000 a month...

karpathian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:53:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'll take it, Florida is pretty bad but at least it's cooler down here right now!

Moridn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:48:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like Texas to me. House prices are fairly low and cost of living is low too.

77P ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:36:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Houses in Texas... No mold or rot. No extreme insulation. They don't have basements. Stupid cheap labor. Tons of free space to build. There's a very long list of why housing in Texas is so cheap.

Alaskan_Thunder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:17:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No mold

I used to live in Houston. I'm questioning this part.

77P ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Almost no*

karpathian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:52:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Flarida!

eburton555 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:23:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Right, but the average person probably lives in the shadow of some metropolitan area so your example isn't really general. There are distinct trade offs, although mortgages definitely have long term benefits.

TheEllimist ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:21:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also remember that the rich people are generally the ones getting the rent from you in the first place. If you have enough seed money, you can use rental income to finance your own, nicer house.

kittenbeauty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:18:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

FHA loans (federally offered) are only 3% down

Kalkaline ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:00:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Income and wealth are two different things that are easily confused. You could have $10mil/year income and have $11mil/year expenses and be broke. The rich have accumulated money, investments, and property and may not have a crazy amount of income like we all expect listed on their tax return.

PM_ME_SAM_ROCKWELL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:27:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not just how much you make, it's also how much you spend. Someone could make $100,000 per year, but if they spend $100,000 per year, how rich are they, really? Whereas someone who makes $60,000 per year and only spends $15,000 and saves the rest would technically have more wealth, even though they make less money.

Miguelinileugim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:46:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being rich is about what you make, being an idiot is how much you spend relative to what you make.

ThatSquareChick ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:17:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I loved Mr. Pratchett so. Such a funny writer. Unexpectedly awesome for a 50ยข garage sale "Mort."

SJVellenga ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:25:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
broccolibush42 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:42:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Great quote, and very true. Unfortunately, I feel lately that there are several companies that do oversell their product to gain a massive profit over the cost of the actual processing and shipping of its product. I feel like an expensive refrigerator, phone or car is set up to fail in a year to a couple years, so that it will be bought again.

Roarkindrake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've been wanting to see this quote for months :p.

lovelaces11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

good book

playoffss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:15:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The issue I've always had with this situation is that it's just not realistic. You will always in the end pay more for nicer shoes, but they will be more comfortable.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:25:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is actually true...I spent a good 200$ on a nice pair of shoes for college at the end of 2015 and since then worn them just about every single weekday. I'm still wearing them now and they look like they have another 3 years in them at least...

Poluact ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:13:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ah, good old Pratchett. I love his books.

skynolongerblue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:39:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I love this quote, but Vimes is starting to irritate me.

Just save up five bucks a month, you cheap bastard, and buy the damn shoes in less then a year!

Clack082 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:51:00 on August 26, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Saving money in the guards barracks or on your person in Ankh-Morpork for months doesn't seem practical. It's not like he can drop it off in an atm.

acend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:33:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Every God damned time.

katielady125 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:53:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sub cars for boots and this is my parents. If they could have just once saved up enough to get even a decent used car from a reputable place with a warranty they would have saved so much time and money and stress. But they always buy the $200 POS off of Craigslist and then get upset that it breaks down every two seconds.

IICVX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:18:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The funny thing about this quote is that later in the book (or maybe in a later book, I can't remember which), Vimes goes back to his cheap boots so he can feel the cobblestones beneath his feet.

32_Wabbits ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 08:04:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Growing up, my parents taught me me.how to save money on a lot of stuff, but there is one standard that they would never compromise on, and I'm happy to have learned it. Never skimp on the things that separate you from the ground. Namely, shoes/boots, tires, and beds. Saving money is great and all, but if you can't work because you hurt your back or feet from shitty shoes or beds, or you get in an accident because of your shitty tires, you won't be able to make any money to save.

SomeAnonymous ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 11:55:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I remember my grandfather always telling my dad, who then told me, that the two most important things to buy for children growing up is good shoes and good schooling.

Jaerba ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:01:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, there's an important difference between spending on comfort and spending on extravagance.

mtrayno1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:57:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

While I don't disagree, too often we mistake expensive for quality. I find that tough to get right sometimes.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:38:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yup this is definitely true. I spent 180 dollars on my work boots and my co-workers thought I was crazy for spending so much. They all bought shoes / boots for 30 dollars, but they replace them every 3 months. Meanwhile mine have lasted 5 years so far without any issues.

Plus side, foot fatigue almost never happens in these boots, when I tried cheaper ones my feet would be KILLING me everyday after work.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:39:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep. My mum was livid I spent ยฃ60 on a rucksack for a schoolbag when I was 15. I'm now almost twenty and although the base is a bit scuffed and the leather on the straps looks worn, it still holds up really well. I considered it worth the price because it had a pretty pattern on it, but it's lasted 10x longer than the bags she'd buy for ยฃ15-20 and would literally fall apart halfway through the year

rainbowbrite07 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:23:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I used to buy a new $10-20 purse every year or less, then I finally splurged and spent $75 on a Baggallini I saw on eBags. 4 years later and still going strong.

dirtyqtip ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:52:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Vintage clothing from the Salvation Army is cheap, plus it's already lasted years of abuse from someone else, you just have to know what to look for.

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SD__ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:40:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's wierd, looking back on it. You splashing out getting nice clothes and us men splashing out on nice cars. We could have saved all that expense by just screwing in the local graveyard.

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C'est la vie!

EarlyCuylersCousin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:06:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And other kids are cruel as shit if you aren't wearing nice clothes. I remember as a kid wanting some Girbaud jeans and my dad told me when Madison Farm Supply starts selling them we will start buying them. I held out hope that it would happen but it never did. My grandma would take me to buy nicer clothes though.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:15:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To judge a man, look at his shoes.

reapy54 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:19:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The trick is to find out where the quality price point ends and the "I put my name on it so it costs more" begins.

CaseyAndWhatNot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:21:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom always tells me that Levi's jeans are too expensive but I've yet to have a pair of Levi's with a broken zipper.

ffkhrocks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:22:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a job from 14 (in my late 20s now) and right around my 16th birthday I came home with an 800 dollar 32" flat screen.

My mom lost her mind. "You should be putting that away for college! That's not something you need! You need to be saving not spending!"

I told her that in a few years when I was at college, I would have no money, possibly loans, but I'd have a goddamn 32 inch flat screen to enjoy.

That tv came with me to college (which my statement came true), back home afterward, and now sits in my mothers living room after her 27" wooden console finally died.

TheAdventMaster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:47:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hah!

My dad called me selfish once when I used some money I had saved to buy myself a 2-liter bottle of coke.

He flipped out! I can't believe my kid is so selfish!

I didn't know whether or not to feel bad. Was I supposed to go to the store and buy some for everyone? There was one of those little convenience stores down the corner of the street. I practically grew up going to it. That much soda was a couple dollars maybe.

Fast forward to the present...

A Meijer opened down the street. Better than Wal-Mart, Kroger, and Marsh in almost every area. Even bought nice clothes there.

There were steak filets on sale for like $6 or $7 / lb. I've never felt bad about my first world privilege until I bought the whole rack. I know people who can't always get enough food for there kids, and here I was, buying an entire rack of steak from the meat counter for only $30 or $40.

I ate steak every day for a week.

I need to communicate with some friends and family better, so if I see deals like that, I can maybe pitch in on getting them some food as well.

scalfin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:59:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, but it can be really hard to tell when price is due to assembly quality or just luxury price marketing when it comes to clothes.

yetchi2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:50:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One thing I learned from a mentor in high school was this, 'if your going to spend too much money on something, spend it on your appearance.'

It really boiled down to, people will think you have your shit together even though you don't. So in the case you need to ask for help people will know you are really hurting.

WrathOfDionysus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:45:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When it comes to shirts and pants, as long as you're not doing anything excessively rugged, cheaper sets of clothes aren't bad. But when it comes to shoes, SPEND THE MONEY. I haven't bought a new pair of shoes since my first "real" pair. It saves you so much in the long run.

MR502 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I grew up getting shoes from the flea markets and Payless, and as usual they wouldn't last no more than a few months. Not to mention how they looked like bad knock-offs of Nike & Adidas shoes. When I bought a pair of nice Adidas shoes I immediately felt the difference and they lasted a long time. Same with the Levi's jeans I bought they just felt better than the jeans I used to get.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:36:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I remember my mom said the same thing when I bought a pair of rainbow sandals when I moved out to California for college. She couldn't understand why I wanted nice ones when I had a "perfectly good" pair of shitty plastic ones from Walmart. It's been 6 years and I was still able to wear my rainbows pretty much every day this summer, still in great shape and really comfortably molded to my feet.

lipstickapocalypse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:44:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I remember the first time I ever bought myself a REAL perfume. I worked an entire summer washing dishes to save for my back to school shopping. I bought an $80 set of a perfume from Macy's and my gandmother nearly passed out. But because it was my own money, she couldn't say a thing. Fast forward 25 years, and I now work for a big cosmetics company and Grandma just happens to love a $105 perfume and GUESS WHO gets it for her...? Mmmhmm... her goddann amazing granddaughter...lol

peepeeparty9 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:52:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I remember in highschool I splurged on a $230 pair of Jordans. Best damn shoes I ever bought I had to make the decision to through them out after 5 years because I never wore them anymore but they still looked fresh af.

Endulos ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:34:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That reminds me of the time my entire family ganged up on my one cousin who bought a $150 pair of shoes at 15 years old... He bought them a size or two bigger than what he wore, as well.

Everyone berated him for wasting his money like that.

Jokes on them because he wore those fuckers for 10 years before they wore out.

0_GHOST_1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:16:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Damn are you me?

MR502 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:33:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I might as well could be, I still get crap from them when I buy my kids nice things.

tombue ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:36:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I knew that I had to buy better quality, because growing up the cheap stuff never lasted and didn't look good.

Someone did a mistake then. Especially with clothes, you can get cheap stuff in relatively good quality, unless it's special stuff (protection gear or so). 10 bucks for a whirt may sound much, but it'll last for up several years. It may take a while until you have an array of 10 buck shirts, but it'll be more worth it.

Otherwise, buy a ticket to a convention. They throw tons of high quality shirts into the people and they'll last an eternity. That's one of the reasons I go to the GamesCom, when I come back, I have 2 or 3 new high quality shirts and a handful of low quality ones.

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tombue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:50:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And you can get good quality for 10 bucks. The really poor quality ones are sub 5 bucks, unless you buy in overly expensive stores or want fancy stuff.

Personally, I buy either in Germany in 'random' stores, or I import Blizzard and Jinx shirts (yes, gaming related) and, even though they aren't the best quality in existence, they last me at least a year. I'd guess somewhere between 50 and 100 times washer+dryer they get their first holes.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:01:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can, Im just saying that is extremely cheap.

availabel2 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:18:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe he's talking about tshirts and not button downs?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:20:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am talking about tshirts. Theres like the 3 for 10 pile. The $10, the $15, the $20, the $40.

Some plain ole white undershirts can be crazy expensive lol

tombue ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:12:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do you mean quality wise or price wise? The best shirt (s) I've worn were 10-20$ shirts instead of the 30+ ones.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:19:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

price like just literally on a mathematical, relative scale, 10 dollars USD is a small amount of money to pay.

oxygenium92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:03 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Buying cheaper clothes makes a little sense only when kid is still growing fast so it will grow out of clithes quickly but still going for the cheapest its the stupidiest thing. My SO is doing this all the time and she ends up with shitloads of crappy clothes that cant be worn after few monts due to wear... This and hers compulsive buing...

Delphizer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:25:43 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel context is important here, "Expensive" is fairly relative. At some point you move from quality to just expensive, this might be where the disconnect comes from.

Estimates on how much you spent?

ExplodoJones ยท 3494 points ยท Posted at 02:43:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

inb4 Vimes boot theory of economics

MrStigglesworth ยท 129 points ยท Posted at 03:17:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sam Vimes might be my favourite character from any book, I love that guy. I'm not sure why, but that's just how it is.

Aalnius ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 09:07:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

probs because hes a decent guy who just wants to get by and help people when he can but he isnt over the top good so it is actually believable that he would be a real person

ZeldaZealot ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 15:01:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He's my second favorite. Sorry, but you just can't beat Moist Von Lipwig.

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ZeldaZealot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:18 on September 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Funny you say that. I'm literally reading Men at Arm right now on my break. He's a second favorite for me, with the advantage that he has more books.

CoffeeAndSwords ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is he in more books beyond Going Postal? I've only just begun getting into Discworld.

ZeldaZealot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:04:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He's also in Making Money and Raising Steam. Pratchett died shortly after Steam, though, so it is his last appearance.

puehlong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:13:13 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

your comment makes me happy, but it reminds me that, earlier this year, I read the last discworld novel which made me sad.

theandromedan ยท 279 points ยท Posted at 05:01:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not a bad theory, but it's not perfect. Sometimes the cheap option is sufficient (e.g. HDMI cables). Sometimes the expensive option isn't a good value (Beats headphones). And sometimes, the expensive item breaks. When expensive things break, rich people can afford to replace them, while poor people can't.
 
In practice, mid-cost items generally offer the best balance between price and other features. High cost items are generally specialist/designer items and don't necessarily offer what people want the most: durability and reliability. The exception is when high cost items offer long, extensive warranties (and the companies behind those warranties are good for it).

PleaseDontGiveMeGold ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 06:02:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

LL Bean, for example. Lifetime warranties no questions asked.

CoffeeAndSwords ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What do they sell?

PleaseDontGiveMeGold ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:19:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Outdoor equipment and clothing.

Bloodshot025 ยท 121 points ยท Posted at 07:04:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Price != Value.

A pair of shoes priced 1/3 as much might have 1/8 the value, because it lasts a quarter as long and feels half as good, for a rough example. So they're not worth it.

Beats headphones might cost 50% more than a nice pair of Sennheisers, but only be half as good. HDMI cables all have to comply to the same standards to be HDMI, so buy the cheapest one (that actually does comply).

Knowing this in all cases is very difficult, of course. You can easily check the price of something, but there isn't a number under it that's the "Normalised Item Value" or whatever. So it's something that you have to learn as you go.

doesntgeddit ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 09:10:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Learned within the last few years that genuine leather != good leather. Full grain leather is the one to go for.

All from a quick google search on why my belts from department stores kept falling apart after 3 months. I bought a Kirkland $17 full grain leather dress belt that I have used everyday for the last two years now and it still looks brand new.

[deleted] ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 10:25:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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blablabliam ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:36:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thats just because it is Texas. Now, hold my cowboy boots while I eat this massive steak and square dance into the night.

Quatzecoatl ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:04:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I live in Texas and had never even noticed there was lower-quality leather like OP said... Anytime I buy leather it's lasted forever!

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:35:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't forget to fire your custom nickel plated Colt SAA revolvers into the air while yelling "YEEHAA!".

Peytoria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:03:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I get a down home country boner for some steak and square dancing.

Doctah_Whoopass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I guess I wont experience nice belts, because I hate wearing them.

moonknlght ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:58:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

๐Ÿณ looks like I'm getting myself a Kirkland brand belt today.

Though I do have to give props to my cheap Walmart genuine leather belt. It's held up pretty well these past couple of years.

doesntgeddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You will be very happy with it. If you are not a Costco member you can still buy it from their website.

Zerotan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:22:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

genuine leather is like dirt-grown potatoes

I mean, sure, it has to actually be leather instead of some synthetic

migulis ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:29:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fake leather = spawn of satan

WellHydrated ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:20:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or no leather. Wtf are you, a viking? You can buy much cheaper synthetic of high quality and less environmental cost. Bonus: you don't have to wear a carcass.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:11:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I bought the Sennheisers that cost about as much as a pair of Beats. They're nothing short of fucking glorious.

Inflatablespider ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:13:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"You may have this expensive Monster brand hdmi cable, but I went to the dollar store, got an hdmi cable, a hooker from outside the dollar store, gonorrhea from the hooker, and gonorrhea medicine from the clinic for the same price. You just got a cable, I bought a cable and life experience."

Promiscuous_Gerbil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:31:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Actually HDMI cables vary radically in what they're capable of. For example the oldest HDMI cable won't be able to display 1080p or 4K. While they all have to adhere to a standard, it's important to know that there are different standards. 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.4, 2.0 with 2.1 currently in development. They're required to list what they're capable of now instead of what version they adhere to so it's easy to know if the HDMI cable your getting has Ethernet, more color, greater Gbit/s and so on.

Bloodshot025 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Absolutely true, though I think it's kind of orthogonal to the overpriced cables you'll see at Target or Best Buy.

Same thing with Ethernet cables. CAT7 is different from CAT5e is different from CAT5, and they'll have different maximum lengths at which they're well behaved. But I can get a 50ft CAT5e cable from Best Buy for $30, or 1000ft of CAT5e cable from Amazon for $50. Granted, you have to put the connectors on yourself, which is a bit daunting if you've never done it before, but it's not too hard.

servimes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:23:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sennheiser is not good value either, at least the once I had had very obvious flaws and did not last very long.

LostMyPasswordNewAcc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:27:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sennheiser is fantastic value m8, u wot. What model you got?

servimes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:49:42 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Two 151s, with one the microphone stopped working, the other the headphones. I never had a broken USB cable btw, so I am not one of those people who just don't take care of things. Oh, and I had a 141 were the ear pads fell apart, but those are replaceable, so that is fine. There is hardly any cable relief, so there is no mystery involved. The actual speakers are not anything special either imo.

Gambo34 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know people rag on beats headphones because of the price but I love my wireless ones for lifting at the gym. No one else makes an over ear Bluetooth headset that comes close to the quality. Ear buds are much less comfortable; I'm always readjusting the fit. Sure, you might get better sound quality from a cheaper pair of wired seinhausers but I'd sooner eat glass than work out with wired headphones regardless of the sound quality. They may be expensive but I haven't had a single issue with mine yet.

DickPics4SteamCodes ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 08:08:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't mind buying a more expensive version of something if it'll last longer, but my girlfriend still has serious trouble with it.

I still have a problem with buying the more expensive trash bags and toilet paper though. Even though I know that the cheap trash bags will split and/or leak garbage water everywhere, and the cheap toilet paper will feel terrible it still hurts a little every time I spent extra money on something that just goes straight in the bin or down the toilet. Having the better ones just gets rid of a ton of stress, which is often worth it.

trentblase ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 09:18:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do you buy the cheapest food possible? Cause that just ends up going down the toilet too.

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trentblase ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:42 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, but poster above said the cheap trash bags leak garbage water everywhere. That definitely affects how I feel.

Arcanewarhol ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:40:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not a necessary thing for me to do, but ever since I bought a nicer trashcan for the kitchen (Simple Human), I stopped buying generic one-size-fits-all bags for it once I ran out of my stock. They make bags designed to form fit their products and while it sounds very silly, the satisfaction of having a perfectly fitting trashbag in there without any hassle or loose ends to tuck in/tie off and looking like crap is worth the extra cost all by itself.

It also increases value that the bags are far better constructed and don't leak or tear unless I put something sharp in it.

_DuranDuran_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:12:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So much this. We've got a simple human bin and the bin bags are far superior to generic supermarket ones. They're also not that expensive, especially compared to brabantia bags. We pay about ยฃ2.50 for 20 bags as we always buy when they're on offer.

gelfin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:34:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And Amazon sells them in larger quantities for much less, if you weren't aware.

throwawayheyheyhey08 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:09:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ive definitely learned the things I can afford to buy cheap and the things I can afford to pay more for. This shift happened when I realized the value of my time. Buy a trash bag that is, what 2 cents cheaper per bag and spend 15 minutes cleaning up leaks for every bag... I get paid how much per hour... my time is more valuable than the difference between cheap and quality.

Once you start thinking of the economics, you realize you're paying more for generic when it doesn't function as well as name brand. Not at the register but throughout the course of your life.

SatanicCatVideo ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 10:41:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Two rules of thumb: learned from Skallagrim

  1. You get what you pay for
  2. Clarification: Something may be "too expensive," but a certain level of quality does come with a minimum price.
LiquidSilver ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 12:36:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
  1. The theory is more about how poor people stay poor than how rich people should spend their money. The cheapest things are simply less efficient than higher-priced things.

  2. Vimes lives in a simplified world, where a simple rule like price=value does work.

NShinryu ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:14:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's easier to investigate the value of a product with the prominence of the Internet now though.

CoffeeAndSwords ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:05:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep. I usually look up "[x item] sucks/ripoff" before I make a large purchase. If a ton of people give it bad reviews, I look for something else.

BenFoldsFourLoko ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 11:41:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And that's why it's not perfect. Not everything at the same price has the same quality when it comes to ANYTHING. And not all brands treat all their items the same in terms of craftsmanship. In a lot of cases, a brand will offer one or a few items out of many that have a truly great price for the quality offered, and their other stuff will be marked up for the quality.

Buying smart about that stuff takes research and time. You can definitely make generalizations, and I love what you said about mid-cost items, because imho it's entirely true. Buy mid-cost and it generally won't break after 10 uses, but it's half the price of a luxury or designer option. There'll always be exceptions in both directions. And generally when it comes to boots, the Vimes theory doesn't even hold true. It's an ok metaphor, but in reality that theory will only check out if you're buying boots from the wrong place. I'm sure they exist, but I KNOW buying either cheap or mid-range will save you money compared to high-end.

iamtheowlman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:29:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sure, but he also came up with it in a pre-industrial city where everything was handmade. So expensive=quality unless you got swindled, because they didn't have everything being made in the Counterweight Continent and rebranded.

Nicklovn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:23:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Similar with mobile phone market. Cheap phones in the $50-100 offer old Android software and don't get updated. Typically there are major tradeoffs like performance or storage or camera.

By the mid range (~$200-300) you start to have a very capable phone with all the important functions operating at a high level (e.g. CPU, storage, ram, and sometimes camera). The trade-off is often camera though.

By the upper range of $500+ you get a better camera and better hardware though not exponentially better. Or you get an iPhone for the brand.

I think the difference between low end phones and mid end is bigger than mid to high.

My low end phones that I've worked with were always displaying some issue that could be a serious inconvenience.

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sarcasticorange ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:38:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

However, if you look at the theory, it is not "Spend more now and you will always save later".

The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money. Take boots, for example...

Boots are just an example. The theory is not that they always buy the most expensive item. It is that they have to financial option to select the best value which may be durable boots whereas the poor always have to take the cheap option which may be a worse value.

A subtle difference, but one that negates your concerns with the theory.

ActuallyRelevant ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:09:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's a perfect theory if and only if you know about the resource needed, types of labor required, and the approximate cost of each.

And after that only buy expensive items when you justify it as truly bring expensive by stating its expensive due to the high quality of the product.

vmlinux ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The thing with hdmi cables is that there are good reasons to get better cables, but that grade is measured in AWG size. Lower AWG (thicker) is necessary when doing longer runs, and especially hooking up to equipment like hdmi splitters, HD base T extenders and whatnot. The quality of the picture doesn't inprove, but under special use cases the signal strength can cause cutting out issues. I tried explaining this to someone who was having a problem with his reciever that was a long ways from his TV, and he basically said I was a Best buy salesman, and that all cables were the same. Meanwhile his flimsy ass 24 foot non in wall rated hdmi cable was causing his tv to blink out for a few seconds every few minutes.

theandromedan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:30 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know; I'd consider an extra long HDMI cable to be a specialized item because most people wouldn't need it. You get this issue with all cables, digital included.

bobabeep ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 06:46:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes!! Good old stoneface Vimes.

methuzia ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 03:11:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Beat it by 4 minutes! Congrats

thetonedbibro124 ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 03:59:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Happy another Pratchett fan popped up with this one ๐Ÿ‘

letspaintthesky ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 06:05:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Boot economics was Pratchett?

Man, I gotta get into my dad's old book collection.

Kazumara ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 07:50:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, Vimes is the main character of the city watch arc.

letspaintthesky ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 12:19:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

City watch arc? Is that part of discworld? (I've never read them, I just know my dad lived for them).

Kazumara ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 12:30:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh yes, sorry, I always forget he has written books outside of the discworld.

You should check the Wikipedia article for an overview of the different storylines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discworld#Storylines

I particularily like the city watch and death arcs

letspaintthesky ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 13:44:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've gotta start reading Prachett if I wanna hang around here, don't I? :)

Aesahaetr ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:35:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You've gotta start reading Pratchett, period.

Also, seconded, starting with the Watch or Death arcs is probably the best way. Plus Mort is a great introduction to Discworld.

letspaintthesky ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:45:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'll just start with whatever's in dad's collection. Snuff, Nation!, a bunch I can't remember the titles of.

Aesahaetr ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:37:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Look for Mort and Guards! Guards!, they are the first of their respective arcs.

Kazumara ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:44:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I would suggest it. It's so good, really.

retief1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:45:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You definitely need to get into your dad's book collection.

LiquidSilver ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:37:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's from Snuff. Unless it was in more than one book.

RedDwarf17 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:13:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think the quote is from Men at Arms. However there are a bunch of books which focus on Vimes. It starts with Guards Guards and ends with Snuff.

LiquidSilver ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:45:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Snuff is the only book I've read and I remember the passage vividly, but I may have read it on the internet. For some reason I also remember the "knowing which part of the city he's in by the feel of the cobbles" which is supposedly from some other book too, so I know much more about Vimes than was ever in Snuff.

Japreggings ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:05:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's just in every one of these threads..

BenFoldsFourLoko ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:34:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Quite possibly not... I've never read Pratchett, but have heard about Vimes a dozen times. It ALWAYS shows up when someone mentions paying more for better products. And the same comments show up every time... the same revelations... And then after a year or two, a critical mass is built where enough people know about it and have seen it repeatedly that someone posts "lol this is gon show up, aren't we sick of it guys?!" and it gets 1000 upvotes. Then that turns into its own repeating post...

reddit is strange, to put it kindly. Seeing a comment then knowing exactly what the 200 child comments look like, because you've seen it a dozen times before (or far more) is really... I'm not sure. But it really distances you from the conversation and medium. But you still know there are lots of people finding a neat new tidbit in their day, and for some possibly revelations about social class and a view into the lives of those less fortunate, or possibly they just find out something about themselves. And then you see someone shitting on all of that and making it into a joke, and then you see a thousand people upvoting it.

Reddit has this weird collective superiority complex or something... That's not exactly it, but it's on track. Sorry if this is a weird, random comment. I've just been bothered by how redditors act and vote and express opinion for a while, and am trying to figure out exactly what bothers me about it. Kinda talking out loud.

Have a good day! There are TONS of Pratchett fans around this place. The /r/books subreddit especially will probably have many mentions of him each day in comment sections.

karmagirl314 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:52:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wonder if the critical mass you mentioned took place about a year ago? Maybe around the time Pratchett passed away? It's really sad that he died so young but he always said "a man is not dead while his name's still spoken". It became almost therapeutic to work him and his books into any and every conversation. Plus he's one of the most quotable authors I've ever read. I hope it hasn't been too much of a circle-jerk though, I know those can be annoying.

BenFoldsFourLoko ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:34:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nawh, this is the first anti or advanced or next level-jerk I've seen about Vimes.

And yeah! Like I said I've never read him, but I've read about him and read excerpts. He's SO quotable. Honestly the only thing stopping me from reading him is the gargantuan process it would be @_@

MadGod_Zymel ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 11:23:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

<3

"The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money. Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles. But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots thatโ€™d still be keeping his feet dry in ten yearsโ€™ time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet. This was the Captain Samuel Vimes โ€˜Bootsโ€™ theory of socioeconomic unfairness."

EditingTips ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:29:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

N

pyronius ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 05:42:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Providing a literal example: When I was younger I had a pair of cheap hiking boots I used on a vacation to Colorado one summer. They probably cost about $50. Later that summer I brought them to camp and happened to be wearing them when we went to play in the river. They basically disintegrated.

About three years ago I bought a nice pair of hiking boots on sale for $120 to bring on vacation in California. They're a bit scuffed up now and the laces are all but dead, but with a little mink oil they appear to be ready for another three years at least. To make matters even better, I worked for the park service last summer and wore them almost every day for four months out in the woods basically being a lumberjack. They're fine though.

Bonus: While working for the park service I the government reimbursed me for a pair of steel toe boots. Since they were paying for $150 worth I bought a $230 pair. I then wore those every day for two months. They still look brand new.

Meanwhile, the $60 pair of shoes I bought at the same time as my hiking boots that I wore once a week at most have been beyond saving for over a year now.

XAM2175 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:22:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My own is a pair of Redback steel-cap boots I bought for AU$110 and got three years of daily wear from.

I'm a year in to my second pair and they still look near new.

karmagirl314 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:43:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was going to make a joke here about mink oil being made from the finest minks, freshly squeezed, then I google it and it turns out mink oil really is made from rendered mink fat :/ TIL

thelittlepakeha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:35:38 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I bought a $250 pair of knee high leather lace up boots once (ie no zip! fucking hate boots with laces up the front and a zip on the inside calf) on clearance for $99. Wore them for years, they're currently in storage still looking near new. Normally I won't spend more than $30 on shoes.

Loreki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:56:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also inb4 link to GYW.

_GameSHARK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:04:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Which is what?

Dragoarms ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:31:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

/U/ExplodoJones Goddammit. I came late to this thread, read that post and first thing I thought of was boot theory, so I went and found it, 'this'll be a gilding fo'sho' I'm thinking... Then I read your reply.

....

Have the theory anywho (someone has probably already posted it).

"The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money.

Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles.

But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.

This was the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' theory of socioeconomic unfairness."

Terry Pratchett, Men at Arms

Edit: missed a /

YM_Industries ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:37:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

GNU Terry Pratchett

mynameiszack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:43:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Vimes boot theory of economics

FVCEGANG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Damn, and here I was about to pretend to be smart and link that shit...

PandaB13r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

GNU Terry Pratchett

GyanTheInfallible ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is EXACTLY what I was thinking. Holy hell! Another Discworld fan :D

swyx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:44 on September 12, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
brazilliandanny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Too late, it's above your comment

guts12 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:31:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit this guy called it!

fatmand00 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:39:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You were like 3 hours late.

NEOPETS4LYFE ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:56:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Every. Fucking. Time.

MakeMeLaughFan ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 03:28:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Buy it nice or buy it twice. Both can work depending on the item. I'd agree that you should buy nice shoes. Beds also fall in my nice column.

they_have_bagels ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 04:18:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

With power tools, if I don't know if I am going to use it, I buy the cheap version first. If it breaks due to me actually using it, I replace it with a high quality version. If I don't use it enough to break it, then I didn't waste money on an expensive version that I wasn't going to use. I spend a little bit more than if I had just bought the nice one to begin with, but I also don't waste money on tools I am not actually using.

MemoryLapse ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:58:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Works fine for power tools, but less good for things that take more finesse. I'm a leatherworker and my struggle is called "what's the cheapest tool I can get away with and still get results"?

I usually guess wrong. Plus, unlike power tools, I have to deal with pain in the ass companies from Europe with barely functional websites and "sorry, minimum order is 50 square feet so you sure as fuck better guess right" tanneries.

they_have_bagels ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Definitely agree. That is more like how I am with things that help me program better or be more productive (I am a programmer by profession). I won't care too much about spending big upfront on a quality computer, monitor, mouse, keyboard, or software that helps me be better at what I do. I don't go through the cheap stuff first in that case.

My anecdote applies pretty much entirely to power tools, haha.

ice_veins ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:09:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Anything that goes between you and the ground. Shoes, mattresses, tires, etc

supercatus ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:33:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also things that go between you and something dangerous to you.

Walterod ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 08:36:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Condoms, Riot Shields, Self Help Books, etc...

jezlie ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:52:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We say "buy once, cry once" because I HATE seeing the larger price at the register, but I'd much rather take home the higher quality item

eieMichaelKirk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:27:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I only somewhat agree with this. Many companies have taken this and exploit it for good quality but absurdly expensive.

Shoes, sure. Clothes, depends.

MemoryLapse ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:54:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The bed doesn't matter. The mattress does. So do the sheets.

Luneowl ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 04:11:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cracked wrote an article about bad habits you develop when you're poor. That one is #1: only planning for the short term. I'm still guilty of that along with feeling like something is too fancy for me to own even if I can easily afford it. http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-5-stupidest-habits-you-develop-growing-up-poor/

designut ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:19:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That was a good read! Thanks for sharing! I can relate to everything but the frozen food and perishable food thing. We did eat canned veggies like champs, but mom cooked a lot of meals from scratch and said they were cheaper (there were five kids in my family so that would probably be cheaper once you were working in larger quantities). A TV dinner was a treat for us!

karmagirl314 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:57:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Most things that John Cheese has written have been pretty eye-opening for me, I just hate that Cracked has deteriorated so much in the last few years.

Evlwolf ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:44:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sadly, I grew up at the line of poverty. We had little food and I only had like 3 pairs of pants for awhile. We grew into the habit of buying everything cheap. Sometimes I feel a tad guilty spending money on certain things (expensive meats and other better quality foods is an example), but I came to the conclusion that I'd rather eat comfortably than have whatever spending money I might save from the cabinet full of crap.

Also, as a woman: bras. Must buy good bras.

ToBeReadOutLoud ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:31:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I felt like I wasted so much money when I bought my first "nice" bra. Turns out they look better, feel better and last longer.

I recently got lazy and bought a cheap bra, and spent an entire day feeling miserable because my boobs were awful.

designut ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:20:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is so weird to me because I have spent $100+ on a couple different bras and they were terrible! But my $20 Wonderbra is the bomb diggity!

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slbaaron ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 05:14:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Depends on what kind of shoes. Formal wear or boots? $60 gets you little (unless serious deals or w.e). Casual wear such as canvas shoes / sneakers? $60 is plenty, especially if you shop for sales.

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124515123452 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:13:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm gonna get downvoted, but you're mostly paying for the logo. There are workboots for $500 with some cool Kickstarter Ad about how they reinvented shoes and wear the same as the same as cheap ones with a metal cap. There are regular offbrand 2-for-1 sneakers and then there are the $800 Nike air red october premium edition pump up shoes.

You're just so used to expensive shoes, you don't even look at the cheap ones, or even try them on. Simply throwing money at something doesn't make it better.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or more. I won't get hiking boots unless they're at least $250-$300. My motion control running shoes run about $100. The only shoes I can ever remember spending less than $100 on are the $50 pair of neoprene boots for my wetsuit.

sryguys ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:22:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What kind of hiking do you do? I've done decent trips in $100 Keens and my feet were fine.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:03:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'll do anything from a day hike to a week, and sometimes off trail. Some are rougher than others and I like good ankle and arch support. I also like insulation and waterproofing as most of my hiking/backpacking is in Oregon, Washington, and Alaska. The best part? I've had my Zamberlans for about 7 years now and I can't remember the last time I got a blister.

124515123452 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:15:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

These people are a cluster-fuck of wasting money, because overpaying a simple thing like shoes for 4x the regular price, surely means they're good.

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tha_this_guy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:49:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've had my $300 Allen Edmonds boots for 15 years and they're still in fantastic shape.

The_cynical_panther ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:36:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's like $60 for a pair of Adidas kicks that will last years.

matthew7s26 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:03:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Probably just sneakers, where $60 is typically good enough.

I_not_Jofish ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:14:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My adidas gazelles were $60 and they've lasted 2 years with me break dancing in them (quite literally dragging them across concrete) and I highly doubt ultra boosts would last as long.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

??

MemoryLapse ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 07:59:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Seriously. A "good" pair of shoes is at least $200. I don't wear sneakers, but I know a good pair of sneakers is expensive as fuck too.

Sylente ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:24:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For a large majority of people, Vans and Converse will do just fine. Those are in the 60-70 dollar range. My collection of shoes is mostly vans, and they just won't die.

MemoryLapse ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:14:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A large majority of who, exactly? Tons of employers (I might say even a majority) require something other than sneakers, either for professionalism or safety. If you're going to wear shoes 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, you should probably make sure they're comfortable.

Sylente ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:17:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I meant for casual wear. Of course, for a business setting, sneakers likely won't cut it. But for just hanging out at a park with your girlfriend or going grocery shopping? Chuck Taylor has your back.

anafie ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:39:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This would probably be my answer as well. My mom grew up on a small farm in Western Kansas, my dad moved across the country and ended up on his brother's couch. His first gift to my mom was an acorn from the nearby woods.

They're very successful now, but my entire family is still in the habit of penny pinching. I have a great job, but I can't bring myself to buy a second pair of work shoes. My current ones are literally falling apart but they still do the job. I realize the value high quality items have, but then I get to the store and think "no...I can use what I have."

hiddengirl90 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:57:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Im still learning this. Whenever i try to buy the quality shoes/purse/clothes i feel totaly guilty and grab the cheap versiรณn again. I see the expensive one and feel bad about expending "all that money", then i see the cheaper One and it feels like the rigth option even when i know that its not going to last much... Its a hard thing to unlearn haha

VerneAsimov ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:05:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I must buy some good cheap shoes because I've never replaced shoes after a couple months in my entire life. And I'm on my feet a lot (and they get wet and dirty).

Pizza_Delivery_Dog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:09:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For me it seems that the more expensive the shoes, the shorter they last. I've spend 2 years or something walking on a โ‚ฌ8 pair of sneakers. It's not very good for your feet tho

xerxesbeat ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:57:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

on a nice pair of shoes

Yes, except shoes... Expensive tends to mean more padding, whereas if you can feel your weight and the ground, you learn how to walk, which will make even the padded shoes last longer

AmaziaTheAmazing ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:42:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Most of the time we went cheaper than that. We went thrift store cheap. Well we can buy one pair of cheap jeans for $10 or we can buy 5 pairs of goodwill jeans for that price. In a house with 4 kids you have to cut corners however you can. That said, /r/BIFL is an amazing place.

DickPics4SteamCodes ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:18:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I buy most of my clothes on eBay. If you wait or know what to search for, you can get barely worn stuff for next to nothing. I have a couple of pairs of ยฃ200+ jeans that a guy was getting rid of after a couple of months of wear because he was going traveling. I have some seriously expensive Red Wings that cost ยฃ40 because the guy who bought them apparently wanted to return them but lost the receipt. They arrived looking brand new.

Even if I go to a shopping city like NYC I spend more time in thrift stores. Especially in hipstery neighbourhoods. Go to a thrift store near a rich, fashionable neighbourhood in January and you get all the shit that people got for Christmas and didn't want. Or go towards the end of a season when people are changing their wardrobes.

shredtilldeth ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:03:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I grew up in a house like this. My stepdad made pretty good money but he was a cheap bastard. He wouldn't usually buy the CHEAPEST variety of a given item, he'd buy the next tier up when there's 5 MORE TIERS OF QUALITY to choose from, and shit would end up breaking or wouldn't work right in the first place. He constantly complained about household projects never taking the amount of time they should, and looking back it's because he never really had the right tools, or the knowledge or know-how of a DIY type person. He just wasn't that guy and every time he attempted it he sucked. He was the guy who wouldn't even bother attempting changing his own brakes on a car, but would try to fix stupid shit around the house that he had no clue about. This was RIGHT before / in the VERY beginning stages of Google mind you.

Getting older and wiser I quickly discovered that you get what you pay for. Especially being in a specialty field like Guitar Repair. Yeah, you can buy cheap hardware store varieties of tools used for guitar repair, but you know what? Those Stew Mac tools are designed SPECIFICALLY for guitar work and tweaked for THAT purpose. Go buy the good stuff and you won't regret it. It's expensive for a reason. It's good and took a long time to make and R&D. Pay people and tool makers what they're worth and you'll reap the benefits.

DickPics4SteamCodes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:23:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

People always say that a bad craftsman blames his tools, but knowing when to spend money on a well made tool is sometimes what separates a good craftsman from a bad one.

Even the best cabinet maker in the world wont get a straight on a heavy piece of wood with a flimsy, badly set up aluminium table saw. Some tools are just better than others.

shredtilldeth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:27:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly! I've noticed that a poor craftsman also usually has poor tools. Not necessarily the other way around though. Just because you have nice tools doesn't mean you know how to use them.

2LinfinityAndBeyond ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:34:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad does this with windshield wipers.... He keeps buying those $20 ones every month. I once had a newer car, and the O'Reilly said that the only ones that were compatible with my car were these fancy $50 Bosch wipers... I was a little mad about paying that much for wipers, but I bit it and I haven't replaced them for 6 months... In the Oregon rainy weather. I was then sold on just buying those premium wipers for now on

Godzmodiar7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:53:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is that normal? How often are you suppose to replace them? Mine had been like 2 years still going strong on the 20 buck pair.

NewWorldOrder781 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:41:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There are two things I spend good money on, shoes and clothes. If you aren't comfortable in your own clothes and shoes that you stand in all day then how can you possibly walk confidently?

NobodyIsHereAnyMore ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:13:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Buffets. We always ate at buffets growing up. Quantity over quality.

jennydancingaway ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:30:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We be twins

lycosa13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:43:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom is like this. She waits until something completely doesn't work to replace it and then will buy the cheapest thing to replace it instead of buying something of good quality that'll last longer. Like clothes. She refuses to spend more than $20 on a shirt but I've found that buying slightly more expensive clothes that's of better quality will be better in the long run

lucy_inthessky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:35:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have just started to come into this within the last 2 years. I grew up DIRT POOR, and never had nice new things. It kills me to buy things that cost a lot, but I know that it's better in the long run to buy quality stuff. I've been getting my husband nice things for his wardrobe (for gifts), quality pieces, and I've never seen him look nicer. Now, I just gotta do this for myself without feeling that intense guilt.

Crazycatlover ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:59:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents taught me the opposite lesson which can cause plenty of problems as well. To use your shoe analogy, if I'm looking for something I'll wear everyday, it makes sense to spend enough money to buy something comfortable and durable. On the other hand, when I was a bridesmaid in my cousin's wedding, I needed to get lilac shoes. I spent $80 on a pair of comfortable lilac heels, kicked them off 20 minutes into the reception, and haven't worn them since. I could have spent much less. (I probably could have worn tennis shoes: that dress covered everything anyway).

We need to find a way to balance our childhood-taught tendencies.

milkanddark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes! Couldn't agree more.

PowerfulDinoSlayer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had the same experience. Still am.

karpathian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother coupons the hell out of quality items until they cost as much as cheap stuff, but when it comes to a car they opt in for a used beat up one that we fix up despite them not lasting that long.

durdyg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Less is more.

tgpineapple ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think it's alright if you're dressing children who are going through puberty. I mean, in a couple months they probably won't fit into the same clothes anymore and you'll have to buy a new set all over again. Quality just isn't worth it when you can't wear something after 3 months because it's too small.

fib16 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

/r/buyitforlife is a great sub

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Almost all my shoes ($50+) from various good brands wear out in a year...

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

About 5-7 years ago, I can't quite remember, I bought some flip flops for like 35 bucks. Pretty expensive imo for flip flops BUT they are THE most comfortable ones I've ever owned and they're still going strong! They've outlasted any others I've had. They're also a dark brown color so you can't tell if they're dirty. However I frequently will where them into water too so they might get slightly cleaned from that. Best flip flops ever. The day I have to throw them out... I might cry.

beepbeepitsajeep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:47:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The weird thing is that when I buy expensive sneakers, $60-100, they always get trashed pretty quick, normally within a year, and that's without wearing them in harsh conditions. The one time I bought a $20 pair of shoes from target intentionally to do yard work in and wear at work and not care if I destroy, they lasted like 5 years of serious abuse and were actually pretty comfortable. I haven't figured that out yet.

Cheap boots, though, oh god, the horror. They don't last for shit, either. I'm a red wing guy. I'm writing this sitting in a room with ~$800 worth of red wing products. That's 3 pairs of boots and a wallet.

TheJeffreyLebowski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:48:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Only $60?

jonbelanger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Quantity or quality is why poor people are poor, I'm convinced.

daraand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Many years ago I remember someone posting this on Reddit and I took it to heart myself:

"I am not so rich that I will buy cheap"

Same idea, that buying cheap goods means over the long run you end up re-buying it.

ThatOnePerson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That reminds me that I haven't bought new shoes in like 4 years.

I should get some new shoes. Eventually.

ScumEater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:05:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Went through this the other day with cell phones. In what world is a $900 phone worth that?

Saeka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:11:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I work computer sales at Best Buy, and the amount of people that tell me, "oh no, this $200 computer should do me just fine!"

Really hard to not show my smile of vindication when they're back in six months later (ranting and raving about what a piece of shit the salesman talked them in to!)

alamare1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've had my MacBook Pro for 3 years, and nobody in the family can understand why I spend 2k on it. Yet they spend over 10k on computers for my dad and two brothers in the same time because "cheap PC's are better then that expensive useless Mac."

I STILL get fussed at today for spending 2k on it...

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:16:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I grew up with a single father in one of the highest cost of living parts of the country on an income of 26-28k a year. I don't think I can break him of this no matter how hard I'll ever try.

BobbysWorldWar2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I guess it just depends on the people, but my parents also grew up poor. But they always taught me to buy something once and never to buy anything that was more expensive to fix than it was to purchase in the first place.

Cool_Calm_Collected ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"only rich people can afford to buy cheap stuff"

TimeForTiffin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:29:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My Grandma always used to say "Buy cheap, buy twice." Stuck with me. It's a good mnemonic. I'll save up for a high quality version of something and treat it like an investment.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:29:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

add being a hoarder and a narcissist to the mix and you have my mother.

GENERAL_A_L33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:34:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Never go cheap on what's between you and the ground. Best advice I've heard in the last few years. Worth it in the long run for boots and tires.

LonePaladin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:36:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There are certain levels of poverty that make this sort of buying difficult, if not impossible.

Let's say you need a box of Thing. It's something you need regularly, and doing without Thing on hand would be difficult at best. A box of Thing lasts you about a month, and costs $20. You can also buy it in bulk -- a year's supply of Thing is $80.

Clearly, it's more cost-effective to buy the bigger box of Thing... except that you don't have $80 to spend, you only have $20. The only way to get the bigger box is to go without Thing for three months -- and, because you're dirt-poor, there's no way you'll be able to hang on to that money for that long.

Sometimes, when you're poor, you buy the cheap stuff because the alternative is doing without.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:50:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Buy tools cheap, like harbor freight style. If it works for you great! If you end up breaking it, then and only then should you buy the more expensive stuff.

spagett-boy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:18:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As they say: "buy cheap; buy twice"

yadoya ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:28:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fluffboyjr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:38:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Buying my first good shoes for work saved my feet I think. On my first job I lost some sensation in the front of my big toe due to bad fitting and cheap shoes plus standing all day. The good shoes that I have now have lasted me a good year now and still feel great.

Forgetmepls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:43:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also using better things was much more pleasant.

Worm_Whomper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:44:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My uncle once told me that people spend most of their lives either sleeping or walking around, so if you buy a decent mattress and decent shoes you'll be comfortable for most of your life.

lordcheeto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:15:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

There's a Swedish proverb, "we're not rich enough to buy cheap things".

Edit: Incorrectly thought it was Swiss.

Endulos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:31:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My Mom does this.

Instead of buying a $30 or more pan that will last several years? She'll spend $5 on a pan that lasts a couple months.

About 2 years ago, their faithful old can opener broke. And when I say old, I mean old. That bastard was as old as I am. (I'm 31) She went through about 20-30 crappy dollar store can openers that lasted 1-2 weeks each TOPS before she FINALLY spent $15 on a GOOD quality can opener and it's lasted them since and will last them for several years.

And of course, each time one broke the "They don't make things like they used to..." speech happened. Of course they don't. You're buying cheap Chinese produced garbage. If you'd spend a little more on quality you wouldn't have these problems.

It's probably a side effect of her growing up on the poor side. Which also causes her to buy A LOT of food on sale and freeze it "for later!", which eventually just gets thrown out. Their freezer broke about a month ago... They had to throw ALL the food in the freezer out. That was good $500+ worth of food that got chucked out.

hubbabubbathrowaway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:38:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

German saying: If you buy cheap, you buy twice.

Camelbeard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:42:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There is always a balance and no absolute one way or the other. Sometimes the cheap item is still the best choice. It really depends on your habits etc. For example I'm lazy and throw everything in the dishwasher. So an expensive frying pan is not going to last me long. So buying a cheaper one is the better choice. For lazy people like me I found out ikea makes relatively cheap frying pans that you can dishwash all the time and they will stay right.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:50:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

60 bucks for good shoes? God damn europe, anything under 100โ‚ฌ is absolute shite.

ezferns ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:51:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

$60 shoes?? Where the fuck do you live and how do I get there??

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:57:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My brother convinced me to buy fancy selvedge denim 316 jeans about 3yrs ago. $250, but I wore them literally every day in college, while travelling and were my only pair of pants during my study abroad. Now I have to wear business casual for work, but they still get use on the weekends, and still look brand new. Other than my sick fades yo.

CravingSunshine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:03:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same. I still feel guilty buying anything at full cost. I mean I guess it worked out because now I'm in my own and extremely poor so at least I know how to live lol. The only reason I'm not going hungry right now is because AI had the foresight to buy a ton of frozen vegetables and a 4 kilo bag of rice. I resent the way we grew up a little because my parents always complained tonus about how we never had enough money, they really made it out issue but then we watches them spend tons of money at bars, or on getting their nails done every week and it just felt very hypocritical.

bob_in_the_west ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:18:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's one thing to buy cheap tools that need to be replaced often.

But cheap shoes will not only hurt your feet but also fuck up your back. Paying a bit more for shoes now means not having to pay thousands and thousands for a crooked back when you're old.

Wendy-M ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:20:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have such a conflicting mindset on this because my father is just like your parents on this, buys everything cheap, always own brand etc etc, whereas my mother will happily buy expensive things for the sake of quality. It's very confusing.

nicih ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:26:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Came here to say this. Mom taught us to always always buy cheapest shit. It was awful. I learned just the last 3 years to buy quality, but still a little cheaper than exclusive quality. I just ordered shoes for 64โ‚ฌ, they were 80โ‚ฌ but on sale. I don't have much money, and can't afford shoes, but I can't afford to buy 3 pairs of shoes every year. These well last a few years. And they're leather.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:06:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Damn, same man.

Sodds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:06:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My husband's sister in law comes from war wrecked balkans and despite having a very decent income, she can't get rid of the habit of buying cheap clothes. So she buys 10 3โ‚ฌ shirts that last her 5 washes rather than 1 30โ‚ฌ shirt that would last at least a year.

nightlyraider ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:07:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

you should spend $150-200 on some leather boots/shoes and take care of them. if you are an adult they will last you a long time, children should stick to the cheap stuff because they grow and such.

i actively destroy my boots at work (constant water/food/degreaser/floor cleaner/oil splatters... i work in a kitchen); and paying $200 for a pair of boots that are going for their 3rd birthday right now is a great deal.

Atario ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:07:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

On the other hand, podiatrists say you should replace any shoes after nine-ish months of use anyway.

ER_nesto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:07:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
  • in some cases

I'd rather buy 300 cans of generic beans, than 5 cans of brand name ones. I can't taste the difference, and they'll keep, so I may as well save a shitload of money

CaptainDodohunter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:11:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Now this is interesting because I'm in quite a similar situation. My parents grew up in poverty but I'm now privileged like you. But the thing is I think them growing up in poverty had a reverse effect to what it had on your parents. Now they have the money to get high quality goods so they do because they like having the nice things that they couldn't have as a child.

uber1337h4xx0r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:14:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My $30 Payless shoes last a year and a half each

dexxee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:29:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My Dad has always said: buy quality - cry once, buy crap - cry a thousand times.

caroesken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:50:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When my grandfather started his first job, he got an advice from his (old) coworker that he carried with him for all of his life:

"You know kid, people like you and me don't make enough money to be able to afford buying cheap stuff."

CptBeetle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:58:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, quality goes a long way, I mean, there is definitely a cost/benefit sweet spot, where if you cross a line you get diminishing returns.

But generally speaking, you get what you pay for.

Poor people buy cheap shit because that is all they can afford, not because it is good value.

glisp42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:58:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom couldn't understand why I spent $200.00 on a set of kitchen knives or $200 on a set of pans.

JohnLocke815 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:13:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mine was just thw opposite, schools shopping was always about having nice things because my mom felt it reflected on her somehow. So she always got us nice clothes. She hated when i went through my grunge phase and insited on jeans, flannels, and airwalks. Even then she tried to buy me fancier flannels.

Now i have $10 shoes from Walmart that I've been wearing (daily) for over 2 years now. Hell, i do just about all my shopping at walmart and buy as cheap as i can because i dint care about fashion. It blows my mind to see people spend 120+ on shoes, 70+ on pants, etc.

But of course theres other things i splurge on my parents never would have. My mom thinks its insane i have an 80" flatscreen while she i just fine to still use a 32# CRT.

Kadmium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:22:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I actually had to learn the opposite lesson - that paying more for something doesn't necessarily get you a better product. I would typically spend $150-200 on a pair of shoes that, while comfortable, would last me maybe a year. I thought that was the only way to get reasonably comfortable shoes. Two months ago I tried on a $35 pair from K Mart that were just as good and I was so mad. Now, I'm eating Aldi food, drinking Cleanskin wine and playing an Agile guitar. Sometimes the cheaper stuff is just as good, if not better, than the stuff that costs four times as much.

RandyPandy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:23:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You could spend say, 300 bucks and have shoes for 15 years. Depending on use get them resoled for 50 bucks and you good. R/goodyearwelt

drxzoidberg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:30:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My wife told me a relevant Russian saying for this. "I'm too poor to buy cheap stuff."

cqm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:34:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe one day you'll lose alot of money, something you thought you could use to live in retirement off of, and then think about all the luxuries you could have had now if you spent that money instead of waiting lazily for the house /stock market to bust

Might help you live a little

tollcrosstim ยท 5485 points ยท Posted at 01:20:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the garbage disposal will not trigger a nuclear reaction and blow up half the world within five seconds of being turned on without cold water running. That was a tough one to unlearn.

blackgeorgewallace ยท 3084 points ยท Posted at 04:15:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

...... I don't believe you.

flyingcircusdog ยท 2295 points ยท Posted at 05:11:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

About to test it. If Southeast Michigan suddenly disappears, you know what did it.

Arachne93 ยท 395 points ยท Posted at 05:13:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well?

Because I doubt it myself.

flyingcircusdog ยท 646 points ยท Posted at 05:19:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Still alive, disposal was just slightly louder.

Hi_im_ur_hitman ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 06:39:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The government typed this for him because they don't want us finding out how to create nuclear explosions. I'm onto to you NASA.

book81able ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 08:19:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It turns out that all you need to split a Plutonium atom is 1. Some Plutonium 2. A fork 3. A garbage disposal The cold water from a faucet is used to cool the plutonium and get some energy which is sent back into the power grid.

OneHonestQuestion ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 09:20:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Plutonium forks could save us some assembly.

Skoot99 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:17:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Surprisingly, NASA is unaware. The Department of Motor Vehicles... they're the ones behind it.

thehandsomebaron ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 05:56:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So like I dropped a fork into it louder or nuclear explosion?

[deleted] ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 06:34:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

[removed]

BfunT ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 09:36:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's pronounced Nucular

idwthis ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 11:52:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We're looking for the naval base in Alameda can you tell us where the nuclear wessels are?

KWITHI ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 10:57:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

LET'S DO THE FORK IN THE GARBAGE DISPOSAL!

DING DING DING DING-DING DING-DING DING SING!

cookrw1989 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:08:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I song that every time I turn on the garbage disposal! Yeah, I'm cool ;)

ANAL_HOOPLA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:03:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

memes

psychosus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:48:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4AFQc4ZrvA

(sorry for the shit quality)

nojo-ke ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:35:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shit might be fine where you are but Ypsilanti just disappeared.

CAL9k ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:51:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You maniac! Allen Park got hit by that shockwave! We may never fully recover! Damn you and your science!

CaptainJaXon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:42:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Did it deafen you? DID IT DEAFEN YOU?

ImALittleCrackpot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:35:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks. I wasn't ready to disappear yet.

S1V4D ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:42:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's what that was?! Could've sworn DTE blew up another coal plant.

yourshittyaesthetic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:10:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We did it, Reddit.

keepitdownoptimist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:57:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Next time, give me warning. I'm in SE MI but luckily while you're haphazardly trying to destroy the world I happened to be in NW MI

minimurgle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:21:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dont listen to him I could see the explosion.

yesfornow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:42:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I BELIEVE that it is PROBABLY okay.... But know I will never do it myself.

dirtyploy ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 06:03:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How dare you put my families lives at risk!!!

SomethingClever_ ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:48:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah but we can all live without Toledo so go ahead

Necrocreature ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 07:00:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

don't you dare compare us to those Ohioan fucks

DasEnde7861 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:26:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yo, I live in SE Michigan. Are you trying to KILL ME?!

michaelontherun ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:53:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Me too! There are literally dozens of us!

burntbythestove ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:41:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Here I am!

-WPD- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:19:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We're still here

LGBTreecko ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:44:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can confirm, am in Southeast Michigan

pnuscheese ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:47:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Friend, Southeast Michigan is definitely not half the world. It's at least 3/4 of it.

Bbzk001 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:14:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Currently in South Michigan, turned the disposal on for 10 seconds and a nuclear explosion happened.

MrLangbyMippets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:03:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You must be using my model. It uses tiny nuclear explosions inside the main chamber to disintegrate food particles, however, if ran without water, it turns into a small nuke. I need to go call corporate and see if we can recall it. That's like the 14th incident this week.

skynolongerblue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:52:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Benton Harbor does have a post-nuclear feel about it.

BitesizeNinja ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:30:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What the fuck dude, were the 4 tornadoes in SW Michigan your doing? That was really annoying.

InitiallyAnAsshole ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:36:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Let's be honest no one will care.

MrLangbyMippets ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:52:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Visiting family in Windsor right now. Can anyone here explain the large flash of light to the southwest I saw earlier?

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:35:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Its always strange to hear about Southeast Michigan on the internet.

namesareforlosers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:42:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bush did it for sure!

dancingbanana123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:46:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No don't do it! That already happened to Louisiana!

blindgynaecologist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:09:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

half the world

Southeast Michigan

Cthulhu4President ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:59:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

you better be careful with that shit I don't plan on going down with you

LGBTreecko ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:44:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Didn't disappear.

Source: Am in Southeast Michigan

AgAero ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:41:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Could you imagine if that actually happened for some reason? Biggest coincidence ever. It'd be damn hard to convince people who've read this comment to think it through and realize you didn't cause the problem.

GrandpaGenesGhost ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:54:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Currently living in Northwest Ohio; turned on the disposal with out water running on accident and survived, you should be good...

normalcollegedropout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Me too! if southwest Missouri disappears... who cares

David367th ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:12:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shit I'm close to driving through there could you hold off for a second?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:23:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You think anyone would notice any of Michigan disappearing?

Pm_me_ur_personal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:49:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do it. I live in southeast Michigan and I'm stuck at work :(

AnIdealSociety ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:59:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

SW Michigan reporting in, test was wildly...unsuccessful.

RupeThereItIs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:11:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, that god damn dream cruise, am I right?

I knew it was gonna destroy metro Detroit.

ButterFlamingo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:13:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If Central Kentucky disappears, I'm blaming you.

alexmc70 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:04:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Please don't, I'm in southeast Michigan.

schurke_kuchen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:13:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hello fellow SE Michigan friend!

millenniumxl-200 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:17:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hey, careful there! I'm just below you in the 419.

rustyxj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:27:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not that there's much to lose anyways. We all know west side is the best side

Thelatestandgreatest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:30:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ayee thumb region represent

Tess47 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:43:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I felt a tremor.

buckeyemaniac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:55:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The world would be a better place.

SluggishJuggernaut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:07:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair, SE Michigan has been slowly disappearing for the better part of the past 25 years... :(

Dirtsniffer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:52:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

TIL half the world=Southeast Michigan

Black_Antidote ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

SE MI? 9 hours ago? You tried taking me out in my sleep?!?!

snugglepigh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit! We're in South East Michigan too and just tried it.

bionicdude144 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Coming from a resident in northwest Ohio, please don't.

Therearenopeas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:07:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's ok. There's nothing over on that side anyhow.

PlusOn3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:38:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Alright shit man. We are down here vacationing. We will be leaving this afternoon. Can you just want a few more hours?

festerf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

welp. time to move to south west michigan

flyingcircusdog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Then you can be closer to Gary, Indiana!

festerf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:17:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

oh god fuck gary

Konosa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Detroit?

flyingcircusdog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A suburb of Detroit.

outerdrive313 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hey fellow SE Michigan person here! Can confirm I'm still alive.

BelaKunn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm blaming you for the tornadoes.

cooljerk21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:54 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So you caused all those tornadoes!

awesomeredefined ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:03 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Southeast Michigan here. It's been a day and I'm still alive. Slightly disappointed.

AppaIachianMudSquid ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:52:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Go try it!

Just kidding...please don't. I don't want to die today.

bluedog82 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:37:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
intensely_human ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I'm not taking any chances on this one.

[deleted] ยท -46 points ยท Posted at 04:54:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

/r/nothingeverhappens thats a very common misconception, dumbass
*/s * E: cant you guys se the fucking s? Ill make it bigger for you

chaun2 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:11:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think he was saying that he was taught the same thing

blackgeorgewallace ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:13:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's exactly what I meant, and that's one misconception I'm not about to start testing.

Miguelinileugim ยท 241 points ยท Posted at 04:20:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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xathien ยท 880 points ยท Posted at 04:28:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sink garbage disposals rely on running water to flush the ground mush down the pipe, so running it without water can cause some sludge buildup. Most people I know just boil this down to "you have to run water while running the disposal" without remembering or knowing why.

gsfgf ยท 349 points ยท Posted at 04:42:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Huh? I thought that they also relied on the water for cooling the motor.

Redanditchy ยท 526 points ยท Posted at 04:49:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a former electrician, my journeyman always told me that. If you don't run water and run the disposal for a little bit it can overheat and destroy the motor.

yougottasliceitright ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 11:16:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The water passages are completely separate from the motor. The motor is not water-cooled. They also have a thermal protector that shut off the motor if it gets too hot.

PM-ME-YOUR-SUBARU ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 09:04:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep, same reason you never want to drive a car with an empty tank of gas, the fuel pump uses the fuel to lubricate and cool itself.

royalbarnacle ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 10:22:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Car manufacturers have been really clever about this though. Since 1948 all cars are designed to shut down if the fuel runs out. So there's no risk anymore. Really old cars could actually explode though because the carbs overheat when there's no fuel, that's why antique car shows are always arranged out in rural areas and fields.

Pokemangooooo ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 10:57:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or maybe.... just maybe.... the only place you can assemble a bunch of large vehicles in one place is in wide open areas... like a field or maybe a rural area

yougottasliceitright ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 11:13:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Since 1948 all cars are designed to shut down if the fuel runs out.

Is that because it ran out of gas perhaps?

LiquidSilver ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 12:15:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, that's what he said. When it runs out of gas to cool the engine, it shuts down.

GanondalfTheWhite ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:50:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's the joke.

TheLordJesusAMA ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:21:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Modern cars have electric fuel pumps in the fuel tank and so they can still run even when the engine is shut off. This could cause problems in a variety of situations; most notably if you get into a wreck and the car catches fire you could have a situation where the fuel pump continues to run, spraying gasoline into the fire. To avoid this most cars have a variety of different safety features that will detect if the car has been exposed to rapid deceleration, or if the the engine is on with with the driver's seat pressure sensor not registering anything, or if the fuel pump is on while the engine is showing 0psi of oil pressure. The oil pressure thing would cause the fuel pump to shut off if the engine ran out of gas, but that's not its primary purpose.

Cars built prior to fuel injection being a common thing used mechanical fuel pumps that were driven off the engine, so this wouldn't have likely been a thing in 1948 in any event.

yougottasliceitright ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:58:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Did you know.....NASCAR requires mechanical fuel pumps just for this reason.

TheLordJesusAMA ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:49:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought it was because NASCAR hates anything that was invented after 1968. Learn something new every day I guess.

upinyabax ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:40:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wonder what happened when they ran out of gas pre-1948?

DenverBeard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:35:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My head hurts after reading this.

upinyabax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:37:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, people never parked in parking lots with a bunch of other cars, back in the day. Or on the streets. Or in garages. They even used to put stores and shit out in fields so if the firebombs/cars did explode, we'd all be safer. But then everybody has to go to the store so you get a bunch of cars parked together. Yeah.....

AceProtege ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:11:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What.. no, they shut off because there isn't any fuel to keep them running. And a carburetor doesn't overheat without fuel. It's literally just a big hunk of metal that is a method of adding a specific amount of fuel to the air that's coming into the engine via Venturi's and squirters. No parts to overheat. Don't spread nonsense like this..

MittenMagick ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:56:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You realize /u/royalbarnacle is having one off on you, right?

Nemtrac5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:56:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like bs but I dont know enough to disagree.

Sterlina ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:47:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Again, another thing my dad taught me, not to drive with less than 1/4 tank, because all the sludge and sediment in my gas tank builds up, so when the tank gets too low, that shit gets mixed in with the good gas. And that's bad for the engine. I probably recite shit my dad taught me a handful of times a day, and he's been gone for almost 9 years now. :/

PM-ME-YOUR-SUBARU ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:50:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm gonna call bs on that one, that's what the fuel filter is for.

Sterlina ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:54:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, this was advice rooted back in the 60s & 70s, so there was probably some truth to it. That and he didn't want me to ever deal with running out of gas. That was probably his 'explanation' for it, so that I wouldn't procrastinate in filling up the tank.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:09:30 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Sterlina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:02 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've got 149k miles on my 09 Yukon and she still runs like a champ. I only still tell myself this so I don't wait til the last minute to get gas. It doesn't always work.. :)

fiberpunk ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 05:34:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Even if you're running hot water and your water heater churns out scalding-hot water?

Redanditchy ยท 83 points ยท Posted at 05:36:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think the idea is really so the blades don't seize up and trip the motor

getinmyx-wing ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 06:34:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep - room mates did not know that you a.) shouldn't put giant fucking pieces of food down the garbage disposal, and b.) need to run water, so I had to sit for three hours a few weeks ago while the maintenance dude ripped out our disposal and installed a brand new one.

[deleted] ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 07:18:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Damn those bastards for making you sit.

getinmyx-wing ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 07:28:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's more the fact that even though they were the ones who broke it, I ended up having to get it fixed. One of my room mates claims to be too anxious to call/go to the office to put in a maintenance request (even though she shows literally no other signs of social anxiety, or any other form of anxiety but okay), the other is always in and out and honestly couldn't care less if something's broken. That leaves me to constantly have to be the "adult" and make sure our apartment isn't literally falling apart. It's exhausting, and thankless because then I'm told how I "never help out."

epikkitteh ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:47:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some people just don't like to talk to authority figures, no matter how non-authoritative they may be. I know I have trouble talking to shopkeepers at times, despite knowing that they couldn't care less.

p.s. Maybe you could try not helping out and then see how they feel. ;)

getinmyx-wing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:12:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But that's my point, she has no issues talking to shopkeepers or other professional figuresโ€ฆ if it's benefitting her, her anxiety is miraculously nonexistent. It's only when it requires taking responsibility for her actions or putting in effort when there's someone else capable of doing it that she's just way too nervous and can't handle it.

epikkitteh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:34:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

While I'm pretty sure this is just avoidance, she could potentially have such anxiety. But I agree, screw em.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:21:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Making phonecalls to any kind of company terrifies me, especially if I need to request a service or lodge a complaint about anything.

Hell, just asking innocent questions is scary enough to make me put it off too long.

do_u_think_i_care ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 11:44:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like a lot of entitled whining.

getinmyx-wing ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:56:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I never stated that there aren't people worse off than me, or that I'm not lucky to have the life I do. However I do have a right to my emotions, including frustration with the people I have to live with. I don't think I know anyone who's shared a home with another person for an extended period of time and NOT had pet peeves about each other.

do_u_think_i_care ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 12:33:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like a lot of entitled whining x2

mememememememememe... ohh.. and Me and I!

getinmyx-wing ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:41:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shrug. You're here whining that you think I'm whining. It's just a perpetual cycle, man. You have a right to your opinion. If telling strangers on the internet that they're self-centered and entitled is what makes you happy, so be it.

do_u_think_i_care ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 12:43:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You sound like you actually are trying to have a conversation with a random Internet dude. Sad shit man, sad shit.

Whining x3

TrappedInThePantry ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 13:42:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
stealth9799 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:52:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He shouldn't have to stand for that

RedditorWithaPHD ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:50:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can't imagine how they managed to make that a 3 hour job. I've installed too many to remember and it should only be about 45 minutes. That includes taking the power cord off the old one and installing it on the other.

getinmyx-wing ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 08:10:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He left multiple times to get parts he'd forgotten and had to empty out my cabinets so everything could dry after he effectively managed to rocket water out of the pipe under the sink and across my kitchen. Dude's handyman skills are dubious. Nice guy, though.

DeShawnThordason ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:02:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hope you weren't paying by the minute.

Peli-kan ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:09:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nice guy? Fuck you! Go home and play with your kids. If you want to work here, close.

sauce

Mijbr90190 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:53:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jeez even 45 minutes for a disposal change out is awhile. If the mouth isnt corroded and seized it's a 15 minute job. My boss would kill me if I took that long. Lol.

RedditorWithaPHD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That includes all of the job. From shop to apartment back to shop. Plus like I said this is including having to rewire the old power cord to the new disposal because they couldn't be bothered to spend the extra 6 dollars for it to come with a new cord.

TheHaleStorm ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 09:28:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My old roommate was better.

She refused to believe us when we told her it mattered which side of the sink you let food scraps go down to use the garbage disposal.

And man did she show us... Instead of putting scraps down the big open hole that says "Insinkerator" around it, she would mash anything she could through the small holes on the other side. Rice, noodles, fat, bacon grease, all of it.

She also said it was bullshit when we told her that she was paying for the plumber by herself when we found out. Why should she be the one paying for him to snake out several pounds of food she packed into the wrong pipe if we all use the sink?

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 12:12:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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MCXL ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:31:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you do have to put a little down, make sure to use dish soap and COLD water. You want the grease to solidify into little chunks suspended by the soap so they can be successfully evacuated to the sewers. This is only for very small amounts though, (like what is left inthe pan after pouring bacon grease into a container.)

Many people think you should use hot water to keep the grease dissolved, but your pipes significantly cool the water on the way out to the sewer, which means that the grease can and does solidify in a much more difficult to access pipe.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:35:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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MCXL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:45:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The only grease that goes down my shit is like, residue.

GummiBearMagician ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:39:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I just pour the cooled grease into an empty water bottle, wipe up the pan with a paper towel, and shove the paper towel into the same water bottle that will be tossed when it's full.

WgXcQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:40:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We once moved into a flat where an old man had lived alone for many years. He didn't have a dish washer and usually had just his one plate to clean, meaning he'd just use a little water and detergent.

Over the years, and without bigger surges of very hot water from a dish washer coming through, that lead to the fat from his dishes building up and completely closing up the pipes attached to the sink drain, to the point where our new landlord decided it was easier to put in a new pipe next to it instead of trying to unclog the old one (houses here are built of mortar and stone, you can't just remove and replace a section of pipe, since they are built into the structure).

The fat never made it far enough down the drain before cooling down enough to stick to the pipe. And that's without actual food waste included, we don't have garbage disposals here, so it really was just congealed old fat.

swissarm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:47:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Does everyone own the same brand of garbage disposal?

Cyno01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Like most things most people dont know/notice/care, but there is one brand for those in the know thats head and shoulders above the rest.

http://www.insinkerator.com/en-us/Household-Products/Garbage-Disposers/Pages/Default.aspx

But most of your major appliance manufacturers make them too, the one in my apartment is a Kenmore.

5redrb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:53:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, there's no way the water in the drain cools the motor.

PM_ME_UR_DOGGOS ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 07:46:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Typically there are no blades at all. Garbage disposals are just basins with rough sandpapery edges.

27Rench27 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:12:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ahhhh, dad and I just cleaned ours out while trying to stop a backup.

They have blades.

Cyno01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

While there arent blades per se, its certainly not like a blender down there, but youre wrong too, it is an actual grinder, not just an abrasive. Unless you wanna call it like two grit sandpaper...

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:25:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That water will heat the motor up to that temperature and no more, after the motor heats up more than the water, water will start having a cooling effect, just not as effective one.

I don't know what's the failure temperature of an average motor but I'd imagine it's more than scalding hot water level.

PaigeTheGreat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:31:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same way 185* water cools your engine.

smack-yo-titties ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:40:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Run cold water so the fats congeal up top. Otherwise the get hard further down the line, and need to be professionally cleaned.

salil91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:05:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was told to never run hot water with the disposal.

whitechocmbg ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:15:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

it's a mix of both answers. the water cools the motor, but it will only overheat if it's under a lot of load (i.e. food buildup). Food buildup will happen if you aren't running the water to wash away the chopped up bits.

CravingSunshine ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:54:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I used to regularly run hot water with the disposal in order to clean it out more effectively and we never had issues with ours.

tha_this_guy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:56:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As long as you're running water so the food particles don't build up and jam the blades, it really doesn't matter if it's boiling water. You use an electric table saw without running water over it, and it's basically the same motor.

upinyabax ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:43:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've always just stood on one foot and held up 3 fingers on my left hand while running it. Must work....never had issues with mine, either.

/s

CravingSunshine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:02:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That must be the secret trick ๐Ÿ˜‰

smack-yo-titties ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:42:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Always run cold!

CravingSunshine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:21:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lol if you say so. But I'm telling you that that disposal ran perfectly for the whole 12 years we lived in that house. But I also wouldn't run it for more than a minute at a time at most. It pretty much didn't need more than that.

smack-yo-titties ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:56:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not for the motor, for your sewer system. You want the fats to congeal up top near the disposal so it goes down in chunks. If you run hot, it gets congealed down the line and can cause you all kinds of trouble.

CravingSunshine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:30:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This makes so much sense.

rauer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:41:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother once started an electrical fire in the garbage disposal, and I'm pretty sure it was from turning it on and walking away (drugs).

Arialene ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:30:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't feel as bad yelling at my husband when he doesn't run the water with it now!

ActuallyRelevant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:13:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In a roundabout way yes you prevent the motor from burning out by, letting the water run. Only because the motor won't jam and overheat.

[deleted] ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 04:49:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not exactly. The sludge keeps the motor from turning. Running an electric motor without it being able to spin can burn it out.

So, you are keeping it from burning out, but not by using water to cool it.

beepbeepitsajeep ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 05:43:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's easier to tell people that the water lubricates it and keeps it from overheating, but simple lies like this are how we got here in the first place.

NonaSuomi282 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:51:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, running an electric motor under full load is a great way to burn it out if it doesn't have safeguards in place to prevent that. It's not like you're ever going to have your disposal totally seize up and run at stall torque (unless you've really fucked up) but the more crap you've got in there, the closer it is to its stall current, and the closer it is to killing itself off as a consequence.

ISBUchild ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:58:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The heat-sink effect of passive water cooling would be useless during the short duration the motor is actually running. The main reason to tell people this is to lessen the chance the motor seizes from debris and burns out.

5redrb ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:57:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The motor and the water do not touch.

mtrayno1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:51:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Look at the disposal housing under the sink. The water doesn't go near enough to the motor to add any cooling. It does act as a bit of a lubricant / coolant for the blades but not enough to make any difference during intermittent usage. No worries running the disposal w/water under normal use. The garbage won't flush w/o water though.

karpathian ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:49:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The motor should have a fan on it to keep air flowing through it, no water should be contacting the motor itself as it is an electrical system...

mkosmo ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:46:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Contrary to popular belief, water and electricity are not mortal enemies.

karpathian ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:53:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Depends, pure water without any metals or salts? You can run brushed DC motors in it and have no issues. Water with salts and metals like tap water +food, no bueno. The food particles and rust would also fuck up the motor which is why you'd also wanna keep those corrosive metal parts in the motor dry.

mkosmo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:58:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In this case, I don't think anybody was talking about running water through the motor, but rather cooking via radiated heat being absorbed by the water through things like the blade, shaft, and exposed housing.

karpathian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:54:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You wouldn't get that much heat transfer from stuff like that.

mkosmo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:23:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Depends on the material. If using something like an aluminum housing, you could move a fair bit of heat. You don't need to move it all, the thing just has to do whatever it's design requirements are. I don't design disposal drive motors, so I have no idea what the requirements are.

I doubt anybody else in this thread is doing much more than speculating, either. lol

NonaSuomi282 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:54:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cooling has nothing to do with it, so a fan is a useless idea. The problem is that when an electric motor is under load, it draws more current. Most any motor can and will quite happily pull maximum (stall) current until either the motor fails, the wiring to the motor fails, or your power supply fails. In the case of a garbage disposal, it's pretty much guaranteed to be option A.

mechanicalkeyboarder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:17:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Most of the disposals I've seen have a little breaker switch (not sure what the correct name is) on them that will trip if they are overloaded.

I've even "fixed" someone's long broken (or so they thought) disposal by resetting the breaker switch that they didn't know existed.

mechanicalkeyboarder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:18:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A small motor like that usually won't have a fan on it. They aren't used long enough to warrant such a thing.

karpathian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:51:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's not a small motor then, even handdrills have a fan on them, motors for cheap toy cars wouldn't but a motor like that would.

mechanicalkeyboarder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:07 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I don't know what I was thinking when I wrote that.

upinyabax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:53:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good god. How do other small high rev engines do it. Hand drills. table saws. Lawn mowers. Hand mixers. Blenders. Shit must be magic.

Redbulldildo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:15:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Tell that to your car's fuel pump. Wanna guess what's run through the motor as lube and coolant?

hubert969 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 08:33:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

sink garbage disposal

Ok I'm just going to go ahead and add this to my growing list of things only found in American households. It's funny, before I started using Reddit, I never knew that you guys spray your frying pans and can buy pre-mixed pancake batter.

TEACH ME MORE

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 12:27:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is this not common? It's so useful! What else don't you poor, poor other countries have?

hubert969 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:32:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Idk, I don't know what you have ;)

poo-poo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:55:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We have light switches so we can illuminate rooms during the night.

hubert969 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:57:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow, so innovative /s

notrudedude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:37:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What do you use your sink garbage disposal for, that can't go into a normal trashcan or recycling?

Aprils-Fool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Food waste.

peace_and_long_life ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:39:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cooking spray is one of the best inventions since, I don't know, the electric mixer. Greasing pans and baking dishes takes 0.05 seconds instead of 20 seconds and a ruined stick of butter.

CaptainUnusual ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:06:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The one at my previous house would also fling bits of chopped food up out of the drain if there was no water running.

lintwhite ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:56:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like a fucking idiot now because I didn't have one until I was in college and I never...ran it with running water the whole time I lived in my apartment. I didn't know. Oh my God. I probably made that thing so nasty for the roommates I left behind.

Nexessor ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:27:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A sink garbage disposal? What wizardry is this?

NonaSuomi282 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 08:57:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lots of homes have a sink divided into two halves. One side has your basic drain/grate, the other will have a big hole in it that leads to a garbage disposal. You'll usually see a lightswitch nearby, either on the wall or under the sink somewhere, which will turn it on. Makes it super-easy to clean up while you're cooking, because it will quite happily grind away small stuff like vegetable trimmings and the like or after the meal you can usually get away with scraping the leftover scraps on your plate into the disposal (as long as they're not too large or hard, like bones or corn cobs) and it'll chew them up and put them down the drain into your sewage-out pipe.

Nexessor ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:46:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That sounds amazing now I want one!

Cyno01 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:07:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A lot of people here rag on them, but theyre pretty great. Regardless of what people say, a quality one can handle just about any organic waste (ymmv). My parents have an original In-sink-orator and will cram a whole chicken carcass down there no problem. The only thing that trips mine up really is lime halfs. I dont bother putting corn cobs down though because they take a while to grind down. And no a garbage disposal doesnt look like a blender down there, theres not "blades" really to get dull (or be sharpened, people will say you have to occasionally put ice/coffee grounds/egg shells down to sharpen the blades, its bullshit, but those things are fine to put down anyway).

What all that really means is that theres no food in my kitchen garbage ever, so it doesnt stink, and i have to take recycling out five times more often than the garbage garbage. I live in a 1br apartment and have nowhere to/no use for compost, and my local waste water treatment runs at a net energy surplus thanks to biogas reclamation, so for me at least (and again, ymmv), the garbage disposal is the greener option.

iFreilicht ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:56:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had no idea such things existed, and I am pretty sure they don't in my country. Why do you need this? Is there no bin for organic waste in the US?

Aprils-Fool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not usually, no.

TheTweets ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:01:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Those are really alien to me. They're absolutely not a thing here. What are they for?

Only thing I can think of is that it saves having to poke spaghetti through the plughole.

REDDITATO_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:40:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Saves what now?

TheTweets ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:01:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's a way of saying "It means you don't have to poke spaghetti down the plughole". As in it saves you from that 'fate'.

REDDITATO_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:56:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, I got that part. I mean why are we poking spaghetti into our sinks?

TheTweets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When you go to wash up but there's a little but you overcooked stuck to the side, or you missed it when you scraped leftovers into the bin, you know?

Cruror ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:30:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Think waffle stomping, but with spaghetti

Sophira ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:06:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What exactly are sink garbage disposals?

PPDeezy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:11:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can i ask why you have garbage disposals in the US? I've never seen or heard of anyone having a garbage disposal. Don't you have a food waste sorting?

Aprils-Fool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Most of us don't have food waste sorting.

smack-yo-titties ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 11:39:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's to cool the motor down. They will over heat moderately quickly. You also run cold water so fats congeal up high in the system, if you run hot water, they congealed further down the line, chasing build up and expensive drain cleanings.

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 11:35:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So it doesnt overheat, the water provides resistance to slow it down

EditingTips ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:38:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's a real shot in the dark.

patbarb69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:55:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad used to feel it was super important to run cold water after putting anything greasy down the disposal. That "kept the grease from coagulating on the pipes".

[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 05:01:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you don't run the water, what will wash the garbage down the drain?

IsThatWhatSheSaidTho ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:52:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

More food, duh

MemoryLapse ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:04:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The next time someone runs the water.

pghreddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hope & unicorn farts, of course!

Veedrac ยท 96 points ยท Posted at 05:40:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

TIL some sinks have built-in shredder-toilets.

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losers_downvote_me ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 06:40:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hahaha. Garbage disposals are just for the little bits of food left on your plate. No smell because it all gets washed down the drain. American kitchens still have trash bins for larger items and non-food waste

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glassFractals ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 07:47:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes. If there is one thing I have learned in life, it is to always splurge on the most insane garbage disposal. So nice not not have to worry about wtf you are rinsing off of plates.

I really don't know how people can stand living for a single day without a garbage disposal. Makes everything about doing dishes or rinsing things way easier.

Kandarian ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:31:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've lived my entire life without one. I think I might have seen one when I was a kid while visiting a friend. I suppose my life is unfathomable to you.

ch0d3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:42:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not really a luxury I put them in all my medium to low income rental properties save me tons of money on sewer snaking bill

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:49:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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ohyoucancount ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:51:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I got one from home Depot for under $60. They do vary in price though.

ch0d3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:53:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

$89.00 us.. instalation takes about a hour if power is in the area..

Kandarian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I never said it was a luxury. I just live in an area of the world where they're not common. Looks like a handy little device, though.

Decalance ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:06:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I mean it's really not that hard...

roomandcoke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I lack a garbage disposal and a dish washer, and my sink only has one compartment. I fucking hate doing dishes.

Wang_Dong ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 06:42:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do you put everything in there? Just food stuff? Does it all go down the drain? Why not use a bin? Doesn't it absolutely stink?

You can put in pretty much anything softer than bone, like apple cores, banana peels, pizza, etc.

It doesn't stink, and that's why it's preferable to use a disposal instead of a bin for organic trash. It's sliced and ground into a liquid slush as it enters the drain, and it's washed away down the pipe leaving nothing behind.

It sucks not to have one once you're used to it.

Nighthunter007 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:03:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My city collects food waste in separate bags, and then compost it. Then they use it or sell it or whatever. It comes to more use than in the sewer system.

Cyno01 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:10:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My city collects the sewer waste and sells it as compost.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milorganite

So for me at least putting stuff down the garbage disposal is the greener option since i have no need for compost myself.

roomandcoke ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:46:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Illinois is getting ready to do this and they're currently trying to think of a name. The Chicago Bears is one of the possibilities.

MalyKotka ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 06:49:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's sliced and ground into a liquid slush as it enters the drain, and it's washed away down the pipe leaving nothing behind.

But to where?!

Wang_Dong ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 06:58:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Into the city sewage system, the same place that toilets and showers drain.

MalyKotka ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 07:24:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

TY Wang_Dong :)

IsThatWhatSheSaidTho ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:53:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

All drains lead to the ocean.

MalyKotka ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:31:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's what I was implying, thank you :)

biggerx ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:57:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Into the sewage system. Do you not have sewers?

yup_its_me_again ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 07:02:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sure but we recycle and split our household waste, so that leftover greens may be used for composting

biggerx ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 07:12:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A lot of people in America don't have personal gardens or growing space. Or if they own a home spend money on store bought fertilizers. My mother/step-dad and father/stepmother both compost and plant on their land but both also have garbage disposals as well.

yup_its_me_again ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 07:16:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh I meant that the municipality collects it for composting. Most of us living in cities don't either.

It cuts the waste bill, so that's nice.

We also split three types of glass (green, brown and clear), paper and cardboard, and plastics. The rest container makes it five types of waste separated at home.

biggerx ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:22:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well we do have green bins for plant material (yard clippings/waste) but I don't know anyone throwing cooked/old vegetables/food stuff in them. That stuff goes in the garbage disposal. We recycle though. In fact I've noticed the last few years we have very little actual garbage. Pretty much everything ends up in the recycle bin these days.

dizdi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:24:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We put our food scraps/discards in the green bin here in Portland (OR). I thought that was universal.

biggerx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nope.

JazzinZerg ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:29:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think its just biodegradable stuff and it doesn't stink because you still have a p-trap on the sink.

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:50:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wtf's a p trap?

mechanicalkeyboarder ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:53:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Look under your sink. See down low on the drain pipe where there's a bend in it? That's the p-trap. Water stays in that bit of the pipe and keeps the drain sealed off so the stank air won't come back out through the drain and funk up your house.

ISBUchild ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:00:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Plumbing codes in most developed countries require traps on sinks, toilets, and so forth, which create a local liquid barrier that prevents sewer gases from coming back into the house. It's why bathrooms don't all smell like sewer.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:57:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In the UK we call this a u bend.

ISBUchild ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:09:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Probably less so today, as pure "U" traps are not permitted now as they are prone to siphoning. The term "U bend" or similar is also still popular in the United States even though most people don't have them.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:14:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

British person here, never heard P trap before, but as I am currently located on a toilet, I had a look under the sink next to me, and the U bend is definitely more 'P' shaped than 'U' shaped...

ISBUchild ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The difference is that it's not a single curved tube, but there's a an intersection where a vent pipe attaches right after the trap. The vent to the outside breaks the suction of the water downstream and prevents it from siphoning out the water in the "U" section, which would defeat the purpose of the trap.

HawkUK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:53:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We have "S-bends". Could be similar?

ISBUchild ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:53:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just food stuff?

Just food stuff.

Does it all go down the drain?

Yes.

Why not use a bin?

Easier to rinse off the little bits than scrap the plate into the trash, where it stays for a while and smells.

Doesn't it absolutely stink?

It's actually way better, because plumbing traps, just as with toilets, prevent any gases from coming back into the house. Just like toilets are better than chamber pots, food waste disposals are more pleasant than trash cans for minor clean-ups.

The device itself does need some cleaning to prevent smelling, which can usually be accomplished by just pouring a couple gallons of boiling water in every couple months.

mikeyBikely ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:15:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A better (though more expensive) option is to coarsely slice up a lemon and then run hot water into the disposal while you feed it the lemon all at once.

Or buy "disposal care"

MemoryLapse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:04:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It doesn't stink if you have a proper trap in your sink, but that's true for most drainage plumbing. It definitely stinks less than a composting bin.

[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 06:37:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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glassFractals ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 07:48:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nope, you just need to get a better disposal. My mighty disposal laughs at all the things you listed.

mikeyBikely ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:16:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The only thing I've seen not shred properly is whole broccoli stalks. Raw, they tend to get stringy.

Cyno01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:15:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, really stringy stuff like that will bind up even the best ones. The only thing ive found mine wont do is lime halfs. Theyre tough and small enough that they just bounce around instead of getting shredded.

Alexhasskills ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:51:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They're great

gravityapple ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:36:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm cutting mine out and replacing it with a piece of pipe. Overpriced gimmick that destroys good compost.

BikerRay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:50:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Very much an American thing; I can't remember seeing one in Canada (saw one in Mexico, though). Seems stupid to increase the load on the sewage system when composting is a better option.

Vanvidum ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:34:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Composting isn't always a better option, depending on where you are. It's also simply more convenient for cleanup if you cook often.

BikerRay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Around here the city provides containers (well, us taxpayers provide them) either for composting yourself, or for pickup so the city can compost the stuff. Personally, I live in the country, so I can compost in the woods if I choose. People bitched about the expense, but it really seems to cut down on the amount going to landfill (which is pretty full).

Veedrac ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:38:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wikipedia has a decent rationale section, and another page mentions

Sweden comparing the time when there were no FWD with the present when 50% of households have FWD. This study verified laboratory etc. work published earlier by other workers. They found there was no increase in wastewater treatment works' cost, nor the volume of wastewater but that there was a 46% increase in biogas.

So it seems surprisingly competitive. Probably no better than compost, though.

BikerRay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Huh, would have thought the sewage plants would have hated them. Mind you, there are worse things people put in the sewers.

Fuckyourmanticore ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 04:45:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My anxiety over this is such that although I do believe you're probably right, I don't think I could try even flipping the empty disposal on without water running. That fear goes deep.

theskydragon ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:17:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I honestly thought it had to have water to cool the motor like someone above said. Even though thinking about that now it seems a little ridiculous it's hard to not do it. It's like even though I now it's probably okay I'm definitely still afraid and will be using it with water only. Wtf.

hlugo3347 ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 05:33:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nice try ISIS

r3loaded2013 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:56:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sure /r/unexpectedjihad will deliver with an apt video.

adudeguyman ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:05:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You've never had to replace a garbage disposal.

losnardos ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:17:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nice try, garbage disposal repair business

wraith_legion ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:05:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Okay, so there's one trick to garbage disposals. If it's blocked and not spinning, you probably got something stuck in there. Sometimes, that stuck thing ruins the disposal. Other times you can work it out. How? By manually turning the blades back and forth. Almost all garbage disposals have a standard fitting at the bottom that interfaces with a regular hex key (Allen wrench, weird L-looking thing, Holdswaithe Spanner, whatever you call it). You just gotta find the right size; try a bunch until something works. Either way, just work it back and forth against the blockage until it clears or until things really break.

Source: lived in a fraternity house, the disposal ate a shotglass or two.

smack-yo-titties ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:46:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Pro tip- make sure the switch is off or it is unplugged. Those 1/3 hp motors are alot more powerful than you would imagine.

losnardos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:28 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What a surprising and thorough response.

wraith_legion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:55:20 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, that's me. Surprising and thorough.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:04:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow. You too a big gamble testing that theory.

uber1337h4xx0r ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:19:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You too thanks

spiritbx ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:24:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It does use the water as a luberecant to work better though.

You are just being inneficient by not using water.

Also you can use water to put down the bits of food that missed the hole.

It's win win.

Also no radroaches.

WolfeBane84 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:47:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, wouldn't hot water be better.

And also, yes, you are supposed to run water when using the disposal.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:13:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are sink garbage things big in america?

I've been to like 20 countries and NEVER seen out outside your country!

Godzmodiar7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:49:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Never had a place without it

playoffss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:18:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You should always run water while you run your disposal. Maybe your parents exaggerated the consequences, but that's not a terrible idea for children.

SpreadItLikeTheHerp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:34:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nor will it spontaneously turn itself on if you reach into it to remove hard objects...unless you forget to turn the switch off first.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:29:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can I just point out that, as a British person, I can't decide if the American garbage disposal system is a sign of ridiculous excess or a really clever way of recycling unwanted food into some easily biodegradable form.

It can easily be answered if someone just tells me: Is this going into the sewer, or is it collecting somewhere you are supposed to regularly empty?

tollcrosstim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:48:55 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It goes into the sewer. It is pretty nifty but definitely not needed. It was a big deal when we got it installed but fear of using it as a kid was very real. Later in life I lived in Glasgow for a year and after moving back to US I hardly use the garbage disposal. It seems so wasteful now. Just clean your plate off in the trash or even better have a compost pile.

firechill2004 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:36:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This was ingrained in me too.

slick8086 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:35:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit, how do you think Chernobyl happened then?

ghonnaherpasyphilaid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Should be hot water anyways. Cuts down on some great buildup.

grumpetcrumpet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You maniac you'll kill us all!

Nightguard119 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:07:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So that wasn't what happened to Nagasaki?

Lunchbawks7187 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do grind food waste w/ a strong flow of cold water. Why cold water? It will cause any grease or oils that may get into the unit to solidify, so that they can be chopped up before reaching the trap.

I get what you mean, but there is a purpose to the cold water. It will NOT be permanently damaged if you run it with no water for a short time, it just won't be as efficient.

Mitch_Mitcherson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You should run water to keep the motor cool though. Also, don't put spaghetti down the drain, I really did blow mine up by doing that. It was such a pain in the ass to clean up everything under the sink.

jkohatsu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:33:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you sure that they didn't mean to say if you pour boiling water down the drain, you pipes will explode? Btw this does happen.

TheAtomicOption ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It does provide lube and cooling for the electric motor tho, so don't leave it running dry tooo long.

DAZTEC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:52:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Who let Gandhi at the garbage disposal?

Drew_5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:47:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

LOL, this is one of my favorites....

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:07:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Weird, I was never told to run it with running water but I just never saw it NOT turned on without running water so I always have water running. But it's usually hot water but that's cause I figure the hot water will help clean it out.

thedarklord187 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:12:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i always just felt like it was better for the longevity of the device. In my mind the water helped keep the shitty motor from overheating by cooling it down. Come to think of it, it would be fun to buy two garbage disposals and have one only use itself and the other use water and see if they both fail at the same time.

LaurenTW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:20:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have just had to google this as I had no idea what it was and I am really confused, do you literally dispose of food down the sink? I'm from England and we put food into the bin.

crystallize1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:40:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Water that a person is in contact with is required for electrical device to work properly?

DaGranitePooPooYouDo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:40:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This has less to do with destroying the disposal and more to do with creating a vicous barrier between you and things that may fly towards your eyes.

ash3s ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:59:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I only just now unlearned this after reading your comment

zer0t3ch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:09:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What's the point of not running the water?

laugelaugelauge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:41:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How common are garbage disposers in the US? I've been in about half the countries in Europe and I've never seen a garbage disposer

Edit: Or maybe it's called a garbage disposal

CptBeetle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:50:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How many American homes actually have electrical/mechanical garbage disposals?

I see that sometimes in your movies, it seems so fucking weird and a little bit scary.

Hauvegdieschisse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:28:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No it can fuck shit up though! At my last house it would shake it's way off the drain and fall into the cabinet below.

Then again the plumbing was essentially glorified bendy straws...

kadno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:29:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My friends were surprised when I threw an entire pancake into the garbage disposal one morning. Growing up, that's just where unfinished food went. All of it always. It didn't dawn on me until after I moved out that food can go in the trash.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:48:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

From uk, wtf is a garbage disposal

sh2nn0n ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:56:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

LIAR

fuzzypyrocat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:49:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was always told to run it with water so everything keeps flowing

Holyzebra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:55:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I still have a hard time using it. Not because of my parents but because of a horror movie I saw as a young kid. I'm 36 and still scared to touch that switch.

rstanovi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:07:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Omg yes!!!

UnderlyingTissues ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:33:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I'm calling bullshit on that one.

Sterlina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:43:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hahahaa same! My dad taught me to always always have the water running when I ran the garbage disposal. I still do this..

OhioMegi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:45:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a roommate that wouldn't put potato peelings don the disposal. Because "it makes soap". Wtf.

ex_nihilo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:17:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not as dramatic as all that, but most of them are water cooled and you could damage the motor by running them for too long without cold water.

ShadowPhoenix22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:19:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sorry, but what's the problem there? I mean, you're saying that the garbage disposal will NOT trigger a nuclear reaction. What's bad there?

JazzFan419 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:30:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

While running it dry with nothing in them is fine, you actually do want to run cold water before using it for food and while food is in there.

FierceDeity_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:33:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why do you people need garbage disposals? I've never seen them in my country. We just put stuff into the trash and be done with it.

b3rn13mac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:39:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some of them are water cooled.

Source: a grave mistake

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't run it without water going! I mean, I don't think it has to be cold, but still.

Or is this something I learned wrong from my parents, too?

lumpymattress ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Does the water not help it though? I didn't figure it would like blow up but I figured it would help with the chopping process

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's like running the jets in a bath when there's no water in it. Scary sounding, thought my house was gonna blow up.

prowlinghazard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:23:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know it's not the end of the world, but I always thought it was better to have the water running while running the disposal?

I dunno, not calling BS on this, I just thought it was one of those "best practice" sort of deals.

ThePugmanJJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:50:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What about warm water?

tollcrosstim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:44:52 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Warm water was not ok. Had to be cold water or the parents would FLIP out.

ghpkhg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hahahahha in all seriousness, though, if you run it too much without water it will get clogged. At least IME

peaches2133 ยท 1178 points ยท Posted at 04:14:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you don't have to marry everyone one you date. My mom was married 7 times and taught us that you never left anyone! No matter if they were horrible to you, took all your money and treated your kids like shit. And that you could "fix" them if you married them. It took me a moving out and talking with other people that that is not normal and people break up all the time. Luckily I never married any of those guys.

Icovada ยท 163 points ยท Posted at 10:49:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And that you could "fix" them if you married them

This shit right here. I am myself, I can be willing to adapt, but fuck trying to fix me AFTER I said yes to a (supposedly) unbreakable bond.

"Women marry men hoping to change them, and they don't. Men marry women hoping they'll never change, and they do"

Betruul ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 15:35:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh my fucking god this.

Im 21 and divorced. Before my wedding she was awesome. Played video games, we had fun dates. 3 months after wedding.... no more videogames, my cooking was suddenly shit aparently, and my cat suddenly started to stink and we need to get rid of it.

2 years whe was the girl of my dreams, but it was a lie. She was a lie. She figured marrage would make me "grow up" and "start being a real man"

Well jokes on her, my life is now better than its ever been, im swimming in cash (reletively, not rich but damn she was an expensive leech) I gained muscles and I love in a Resort town.

She still lives in a fucking horrible town.

LilCasket ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:55:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If it is in Florida, it doesn't count as a resort town.

Source: native Floridian....

DwarfTheMike ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 11:55:53 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Growing up in Florida, I never understood vacationing there. It's fucking hot. I remember always dreaming of seeing snow. Now I live up north. I've inly lived up here for one winter season but I enjoyed it far more than others made me think I would. A major change of pace. Also, winter clothes can be very nice looking. I always felt ragged living in Florida. Always trying to escape the heat in sandals, shorts, and an endless supply of t-shirts.

Besides the one snow season I stayed in other colder areas with now snow and I was more comfortable year round than in fl. Fuck that place.

LilCasket ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:44:34 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You and I both... Florida is actually pretty boring. Seen one beach- you've seen them all. Been to one park- you've seen them all, and go to one swamp- you've seen them all. It is never unique and just hot and humid, with chainstores in strip malls hell.... with bathsalts...and /r/floridaman.

Betruul ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:58 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can always put on more layers, even have electric heated coats. But you can only remove so much before you get arrested for public indecency.

Betruul ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:45 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

CDA. its awesome.

w_p ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 11:46:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom was married 7 times and taught us that you never left anyone!

Did everyone of her husbands die? Or was she left?

Thelandofmiguela ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 14:04:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

After seven dead husbands I would be pretty damn suspicious.

oldsecondhand ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:53:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"They just don't make them like they used to."

French__Canadian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:54:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They were not up to her standards.

peaches2133 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 14:17:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They left her. She was not mentally stable.

HMCetc ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 12:48:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think they mean you never leave anyone until after you're married?

Squidblimp ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 08:54:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I take relationships quite seriously, and I only go into a relationship with a mindset that I am looking for a person to eventually marry.

But that's the whole point of the relationship part first, no? To figure out if they're marriage material?

Wayward-Soul ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 11:59:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sure, but their mother never broke it off regardless of the situation. So he could be an absolute asshole but by golly they were getting married and then she could turn him into a gentleman. That's not healthy. I do agree that relationships should be looking towards marriage, but that if it isn't working then don't force it.

[deleted] ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 12:07:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Mynameisnotdoug ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:30:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The fuck?

Schwalbenflug ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:46:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's a bot.

Mynameisnotdoug ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:51:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But why?

CaffeineTripp ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 13:21:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not sure Doug.

peaches2133 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:23:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I totally agree!

Built-In ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 09:25:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christ! That is a terrible lesson. I'm glad you didn't marry any of those guys. How are you doing with relationships now? Boundaries and self respect?

Ps. People like your mom is the reason that the divorce percentage rate is so high.

My husband's paternal side are the same. His dad is on his third marriage, grandpa married the same woman three times (and there was one or two other wives during his lifetime).

peaches2133 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 14:21:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

After I moved out and realized that I could find someone that makes ME happy and I didn't have to change them or myself is was great! I found my amazing husband and have been happily married for 5 years. He is my soul mate.

Leviticus59 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 11:39:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good for you. My whole extended family has more-or-less that attitude. I've seen many of them ride their marriages down to a fiery death, then stay put for decades, nursing along a dead, burnt-out marriage.

Not me. I've been branded a heretic for divorcing and remarrying, but fuck them. I'm much happier and more productive now.

moviefan6 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 12:23:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom was married 7 times and taught us that you never left anyone!

But how, though?

PM_ME_FOR_SMALLTALK ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:09:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good for you, I'm glad you are not like your mother( in that sense)

My mom's current husband hits her whenever she speaks up, she's got marks on her arms and on more than three or four occasions this year he's pulled out a gun but my mom insist "he loves us."

peaches2133 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 14:25:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom's famous saying was "He loves me. He will change."

PM_ME_FOR_SMALLTALK ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:35:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dang. Hope you don't mind me asking, but is your mother in a better position now?

I'm hoping one day my mom will move out and no longer feel scared or be hit.

peaches2133 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:25:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She had not been married in 6 years so she is doing better. She loves with my Grandma and is helping her out.

peaches2133 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She had not been married in 6 years so she is doing better. She loves with my Grandma and is helping her out.

DarksteelPenguin ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:02:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But if she never left someone, what happened to her 7 husbands...

peaches2133 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:17:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They left her. She has depression and anxiety so none of them could handle her craziness after a few years.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:16:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

SEVEN times?!?!?!

TaylorS1986 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:35:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your mom needs psychiatric help, badly. That just screams "dependent personality".

peaches2133 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:53:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's one of the bad parts. She thinks she is fine.

MacadamNumber ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:45:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents think that too. They also think sex before marriage is evil and disguisting

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:03:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother's general attitude as well as her attitude on dating influenced me kind of like this too. She's a control freak and also stayed with a guy who treated her (and me) like shit and had at least four other girlfriends (not all at once) while he was with her because she needed a man around the house to do all the things she was too scared to do.

It took my friends telling me that my ex was treating me like crap and being a horribly possessive control freak to understand that the way he treated me was not normal.

Doctah_Whoopass ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:17:45 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

People arent like cars. You can't just swap in a new motor when the old one goes, and you sure as shit cant weld a relationship.

L3GION1183 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:29:13 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

this shit is probably what inspires so many people to want relationships like the joker and harley qinn. like no. that is not a healthy relationship. you don't want shit like that in your life.

professorbooty11 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:04:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"married 7 times and taught us that you never left anyone" I guess that means 7 husbands left her? Wow. That is quite an indictment of your mom's ability to be a wife.

peaches2133 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yea she was as good of a wife as she was a mom.

Hank_from_accounting ยท 13658 points ยท Posted at 00:12:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

They taught me to never disagree with anything. In my household there was no such thing as "No" or "why"

Edit: Woah. Didn't expect this much of a response from the Reddit community. Thanks for the gold strangers! I'm glad a lot of you are starting to be able to get over this bad programming and speak up if you disagree with something. Most parents want the best for you and they do try their best but they don't get everything right.

emptysee ยท 6629 points ยท Posted at 01:47:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty much the same. My dad was abusive and we all sort of just agreed with everything because disagreeing or questioning anything let to yelling and throwing things and tantrums that lasted days. I grew up learning that the safest way to live was entirely unnoticed. So it took forever even after I was an adult for me to speak up or make my own choices or do things I actually wanted to do. I still struggle with it a lot.

SunMoonTruth ยท 3448 points ยท Posted at 02:33:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Yep. My first inclination when someone gets upset or angry or I sense they are going in that direction is to try and become very quiet and invisible. I hate that panicked feeling.

that1persn ยท 1114 points ยท Posted at 04:57:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I do that when my dad is angry. I try to always say sorry for everything because he gets mad at anything. So I am paranoid if I say the wrong thing he gets mad and starts yelling and he starts stomping around like a 6 year old. He gives a feeling that he can go off at any time.

SlanesonaPlake ยท 761 points ยท Posted at 05:43:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's exactly like my dad he has a temper that makes him just snap and fucking lose it. One of my earliest childhood memories was of him smashing shit in the kitchen while me and my brother cried in our room with the door shut wondering why he was destroying our stuff and yelling at our mom. I was so terrified. He still snaps like that years later.

Angsty_Potatos ยท 361 points ยท Posted at 07:16:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same. My earliest memory is identical to that. I used to try and be super quiet and apologetic to attempt to appease my parents endless arguing. Spent lots of time hiding in my room crying during fights :(

soliloki ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 10:56:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I would like to give you an internet hug. I'm sorry man. This breaks me. :'(

Angsty_Potatos ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:53:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks. Though it sucks it is kinda nice to know none of us are alone in this experience... I am sad others went thru it too though :(

jebesbudalu ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 09:55:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My earliest memory is my dad grabbing my neck rising me to the ceiling and slamming my 4 year old body on the bed with such force that the bed frame snapped and I hit my head in the wardrobe.

miss_ann_thropic ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 13:12:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A lot of my own childhood memories are blocked out, probably as a cooping mechanism for my own survival. My mom told me when I was just a baby my father threw me across a room in a fit of rage, but she luckily caught me. My earliest memory is of me and my little sister whispering on a Saturday morning and him flipping his shit. Beating the crap out of us and making us kneel for hours on our bare knees on a distressed linoleum floor. I remember picking tiny bits of dirt out of my knees and that feeling where you've been slapped in the mouth so hard your nose hurts and you feel like you're drowning. I actually used to wish I had a brother cuz of all that. Until I finished college I constantly apologized for just existing. Someone would just walk passed me and I'd say I was sorry. It took me a long time and help from my now husband, but I apologize less now. It's not an active compulsion anymore.

shardikprime ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 13:42:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit

Man are you OK? How are you doing?

miss_ann_thropic ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 14:56:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thankfully my mom divorced him when I was 10, but then immediately married a guy who was using her as a trophy wife and me and my sis as an instant family so he could seem normal for his father. He was verbally and psychologically abusive and treated my mom like shit. They divorced after 15 years.

It took a long time, but I've gotten my life together. I still have to talk to my dad regularly and see him here and there, but we don't talk about it. He has bragged to ppl about how well he "disciplined" his kids, which is fucked up cuz his mom was abusive to him and his dad abandoned him. It doesn't rly help to know where his shit comes from bc I feel like going through that kind of thing makes me know i'd nvr do that to anyone since I know what it feels like.

My sister inherited my dad anger issues from the beginning. I've been mostly like numb to everything for a long time, but I've been feeling some anger seep through as of later, which is finally leading me to want to try a therapist to find a way to remedy the issues. I know where my issues come from, but overcoming them is a whole other battle. I've had depression and anxiety for a long time. The anxiety has been crippling in the past, but I've managed it better as of late. As I've been handling my anxiety, my disassociation has been dissipating, but all the feelings I've suppressed for years are starting to come up. It was very rough at first and now I'm on the search to find the right therapist because opening this can of worms up can be overwhelming.

Ae3qe27u ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:27:25 on September 2, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

hug

Shakenbakers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:03 on August 26, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hope you're doing better now, and your future seems to be looking bright :)

soliloki ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 10:57:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck. I hope you're in a better place now. :(

jebesbudalu ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 11:20:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Actually I think I am. 22 and rocking trying to dig myself to the top. He is still in the house, but i got buffed my brother got taller and together he can't do shit. He saw i don't give a fuck about him nor my brother and he started very recently,maybe 2 months ago, to kiss mine and my brothers' ass. And i openly told him the last time he beat my mother that i will fucking rip his hands off, beat him with them and showe the middle fingers in his eyes until he bleeds out empty. I still have that "don't do shit, be quiet as a mouse, don't say'' but i'm trying to go pass that and trust me it is very difficult. Have a good life buddy AND DON'T TAKE SHIT FROM ANYONE even if you get beat down stand up even if you are called names tell them/him/her FUCK YOU take the beat and then say FUCK YOU ... AGAIN!

Cheers friend

IsaacM42 ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 11:51:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just FYI from someone that has been there, that anger is gonna eat you up eventually. I k it sounds crazy but consider some day forgiving him. Not for him but for yourself

oskiwiiwii ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:12:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah. Also I think for a lot of people here, the problem is they've never expressed that anger before and they don't know how - would be healthy for them to do it if they could.

flexthrustmore ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:58:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

fuckin no, stay in his house and gradually take over more and more of his space until you push him out completely from his own home.

jebesbudalu ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:34:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am fully aware of that, but now is not the time for that. I feel the anger inside me, it reflects on everything i do but as time passes i don't care for him very much, and that is what is most painful for him. So i say, let him suffer. Maybe one day...maybe...

TrollManGoblin ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:39:39 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Bullshit. It's the same logic as "I'm doing it because I love you" bullshit.

IsaacM42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:08:18 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hardly, the forgiveness I'm talking about is for OP. His dad was an asshole and he spends the rest of his life hating him. That has an effect, whether we want to admit it or not. I'm not saying OP has to forget.

TrollManGoblin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:30:45 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How do you define "forgive" then?

IsaacM42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:56:57 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I believe I already addressed that

TrollManGoblin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:56:45 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your belief is incorrect, then.

soliloki ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 11:53:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good to know man, that you can stand up for yourself AND your mother now. Fuck that noise. I can't imagine how it feels to have an abusive father like that. You're a strong person and from the way you put it I know you're gonna come out from this a better person as a whole. Cheers to you too friend.

Azor_Ahigh ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:29:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sorry to hear about your trouble man but I wish I could've seen his face after u said that!

BritneySmears ยท -16 points ยท Posted at 13:07:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

You're 22 and still living with your parents? Especially with a parent like that? Time to grow up, son.

My mom was emotionally abusive, quick tempered and just plain mean. As soon as I graduated high school I moved the fuck out.

edit: I know you are all downvoting me because you are self-entitled millennials who were given participation trophies for everything and don't feel you need to work hard for anything and I feel sorry for you.

assassinsguild ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:23:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I get where you're coming from. I didn't move out of my grandparents' till I was 25, but not for lack of trying. I won't go into the details but basically they did everything they could to keep me financially hostage until I was lucky enough to land a job that paid so well they couldn't keep me there anymore. My boyfriend, on the other hand, had a similar situation as you and moved out of his parents' home when he was 16. Though unlike me, he had people to stay with. I couldn't go to family because they would just tell me to suck it up when my step grandmother became abusive because I "must have done something to deserve it". My grandpa wasn't as bad and sometimes genuinely tried to do right by me and my little sister, but I'll always resent him a little bit for never standing up to step- grandma when she took out her rage on us. He would just turn up the volume on the TV and pretend he heard or saw nothing. His ex-wife was worse than her, and both my biological parents are dead. My father was extremely violent toward everyone including me and even my sister when she was a baby so we were told by everyone we were lucky because at least we weren't living with someone who would actually try to kill us. I'm not telling this just as a sob story, just illustrating through my example how one can become acclimated to abuse and even live in denial about it for years. It's hard for me to relate to people who have close relationships with their family because basically all my family knew how my step- grandma was and did nothing or defended her. So I just distance myself from all of them because I just don't see a point in having a relationship with them.

Raencloud94 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:00:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For some people the only other option is the street. Please don't judge.

BritneySmears ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 14:06:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

At 22 you can get a job and move out. I had a job at 16.

Raencloud94 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:57:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Depending on where you live. It's not easy to get a job in a lot of places now. You don't know every factor here. You can't just say, well you should get a job and move out. You don't know everything going on there.

BritneySmears ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you talking about the part of my post that says you have to find a job and then a place to live all on the same day that you wake up and realize you need to leave? Is that the part you're referring to?

Raencloud94 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:31:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know why you're being so rude. All I was saying, is that you don't know all the factors here.

BritneySmears ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:36:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Of course I don't.

What I do know is people are constantly making excuses.

CaptainEhAwesome ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:08:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like you need to un-learn some of your shitty attitude.

BritneySmears ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:13:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like you need to get a job, start being an adult and pay taxes, and move out of mommy's house.

CaptainEhAwesome ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:22:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have done that, at 22. But you don't actually give a shit you just want to bitch about millennials to make yourself feel superior.

Not everyone has the same opportunities as you did and you could be a bit less shitty about it.

BritneySmears ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:07:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lmao. Opportunities? I guess if getting a part-time job at a fast food place as a teenager is considered an "opportunity" most other people don't enjoy, then I'm guilty as charged.

Also, you're talking to 35-year-old here, not a baby boomer who grew up in the 60s/70s. So spare me with your make-believe bullshit that I had plenty more job prospects than a "millennial".

Metal_Charizard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:00:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe he doesn't want to leave his mom and bro alone with the scumbag.

TrollManGoblin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:44:31 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Here, you won the prize for the most immature comment in this thread: \*/

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:33:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I remember a similar experience. My dad pinned me to the wall a little above his head. He's 6'2". He was screaming into my face. My mom told me later that i had an earache and wouldnt stop crying. I guess he couldn't take it anymore. But they were both pretty hands on. I was around three or four.

I have a four year old daughter. I can't imagine doing something like that to her.

jebesbudalu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I always think to myself, what my father would do. Then do the exactly the opposite thing. Trust me it helps with judgement.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:10:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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jebesbudalu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hey at least try to be positive. That looked funny as hell. Always look on the bright side of life! :D

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:28:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same for me.Not as bad though,and he never destroyed anything.sometimes even obsessively cleaned..really great guy though, compassionate and happy most of the time.Not his fault even,he had next to 0 social interaction as a kid because his parents never made him do anything so he didn't so he has a tiny ego.

about33ninjas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:13:44 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Both you and u_slanesonaplake should look into bipolar disorder. When I was a kid my mother would come home and sometimes be in a good mood, and other days she would completely lose it. I remember her ripping the phone out of the wall and knocking over bookcases. Turns out she (and my sister) had undiagnosed bipolar disorder. People can even out with meds, and you can look into behavioral tricks that deescalate situations. Even to this day I am naturally good at sensing and nullifying situations in everyday life that seem to be escalating.

Angsty_Potatos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:51 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As far as my dad goes. His issue is alchohol / narcotic pain meds. If you can get him sober he's wonderful. It's the pills/drink combo that fuck everything.

Mental illness does run in the family. My brother has been displaying symptoms of manic depressive disorder/bipolar disorder. It is adding to the crazy back home (he's 26 and hasn't moved out yet, so it's a shit show :/)

PM_Me_Steam_Games_Yo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait... if it's identical... did... did this just happen?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Angsty_Potatos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thats awful. :(. See I do everything to deescalate :/

BadB0ii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hey its you, his brother

Angsty_Potatos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My brother doesnt have internet, I doubt it

StrawberryR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:18 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One of my earlier memories of my dad was when he threw a rocking chair across the house one Thanksgiving during some kind of tantrum/fight. I remembered him blowing up every Easter, too, always something that went wrong and made him scary.

When my mom finally told him that my sister and I were afraid of him, it really convinced him to change for the better. He started dealing with his anger a lot better, and for a while there he was always spending time with my sister and I; taking us to movies, talking with us, letting us come with him places, it was really fun.

We stopped running and hiding when he came home and now dad is a LOT more approachable too. Less angry, and no thrown furniture/things in about 8 years.

Angsty_Potatos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:04:42 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thats really awesome to hear, I'm glad he turned it around for you guys :)

Fablemaster44 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:34 on September 30, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What compels people to act like this?

Angsty_Potatos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:55:19 on September 30, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A laundry list of things..

AltrdFate ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 12:11:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a similar childhood. My dad was more verbally abusive than anything. He would throw things though and you'd never really know why he was mad.

Some examples: 1. one time my brother jumped out from behind a chair and scared me. I got mad and pushed him over into the chair which had my mom's purse on it. Knocked the chair over and everything in her purse fell out. He sees this, goes berserk starts screaming at both of us telling us how Christmas is cancelled and what we each got and where the items are (it was Christmas Eve). My brother ran away from home that night and we had to hunt him down for 2 hours. Could have just let us put the stuff back in the purse dad....

  1. Screamed his head off at my mom on vacation because the little cabin we were staying at in the middle of nowhere didn't have a landline and our tracfones didn't have service there. Said that she "should have asked" before booking the cabin. Said a serial killer could come by and kill all of us.

  2. Threw my mother to the ground on their anniversary because he wrongly suspected her of sending pictures to some other man. All she did was take a few selfies in the bathroom because she doesn't usually dress up and wanted to remember it. He was arrested after that and they're luckily now divorced.

  3. Got mad about something incredibly stupid and raised a metal mixing bowl above his head and smashed it on the ground in the kitchen. He forgot we have glass bulbs on the light fixture in there and shattered one of them with the bowl on his downswing.

  4. And just because it's funny the time he couldn't find any deli meat in the fridge when he was mad and hungry and came up with the theory that a homeless man came into our kitchen and stole the ham he wanted. His reasoning was that it "smelled like cigarettes in the kitchen". There are other stories but these are the most memorable.

LedinToke ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 08:45:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i'm really glad my dad just swore a lot when he got mad. He was a really good sport about how much i'd laugh

ssigea ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 09:23:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Have had an asshole for a dad here too. My therapist recommended writing out all my feelings against dad in a book. Slow and eventual release although am still angry inside

adamthedog ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 09:34:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't be so mean to your child(Ren)..

;)

lizarasaurd ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 09:25:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That sounds exactly like me and my sibling :(

As perverse as it may sound it's a bit comforting to know you're not alone. I hope things have gotten better for you, or if they haven't yet, they do soon.

SlanesonaPlake ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:50:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hey thank you I hope your situation has improved as well. It sucks when the people we trust the most abuse that relationship.

Dustbath ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 10:12:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's awful, I hope you're ok now. My dad was similar, just another horrible cunt.

It astounds me though why some fathers (or parents in general) have to be awful like this. If I ever have a child, I'd never treat it like shit. I can't see why anyone would act like a horrible, abusive bully to their own kid.

TheAdventMaster ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:33:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad wonders why I don't talk to him now. I sent him an email saying that behaving in that way is completely unacceptable. Threatening or intimidating people to get your way or deal with stress is not something that should be considered normal at all. Someone shouldn't have to go outside for a smoke just because they heard an opinion that disagrees with their mindset in the slightest way.

Seems like he gave up at that point.

I get a feeling - because I used to deal with it as well and snap all of the time when I was caught off guard - that moderate autism, anxiety and obsessive disorders run in my family.

I've worked really hard to not only deal with those issues, but to focus on being more extroverted and compassionate. Trying to pay attention to other people introduces a new dynamic that has adapted me well for organic change.

I went from hitting my dog and yelling at my daughter when they'd make me upset to... well, I don't even yell anymore. Everyone around me seems a lot happier, and I learn so much now that people feel comfortable speaking freely :)

TrollManGoblin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:54:13 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What is so bad about going outside for a smoke?

TheAdventMaster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:02:39 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The point is he was always on edge. You shouldn't look like you're about to blow up and need a cigarette to calm down every time someone disagrees with you about anything at all.

[deleted] ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 09:13:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You really shouldn't call it snapping, it is just manipulation to get what he wants or to control you. If there was a police officer there or a guy bigger and stronger than him then be would be able to control himself just fine. There is this myth that anger is uncontrollable but actually it is the easiest emotion to turn on and off.

Czsixteen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:58:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lol my dad got all scared and unsure of what to do when he got the balls to call his brother a slum lord. He forced my mom and I to come with him to the rental houses they all own and we work on to make sure his brother wouldn't beat the shit out of him.

adamthedog ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 09:33:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

...no..??

Have you ever tried to stop being angry?

nuiro ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 10:06:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The truth is propably inbetween. Controlling your anger isnt easy, but there is a huge difference between people who try to control their anger and people who don't. The latter may find the anger actually convenient I imagine.

[deleted] ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 10:43:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We can't stop our emotions but we can know ourselves enough to have control over how we react to then. I feel like people (I.e. men, dads, etc) too easily excuse their own anger and aggression, blaming triggers rather than their own inability to deal with their emotions in a healthy way. This bullshit has to stop.

ichlibejuice ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 12:42:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

you think this problem has any association with men?

Women do it just as often, if not far more, it just results in less damage because they're physically diminutive in comparison and their tantrums tend towards verbal abuse rather than physical.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:06:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am generalizing, of course, based on my experience. Women can certainly act impulsively or violently based on a lack of emotional control. However, I've observed that men, such as myself, are often told explicitly and implicitly that anger is an acceptable emotion to act upon (whereas sadness or emotional fluency is seen as a weakness). I believe that we would have less instances of domestic abuse and violent crime (overwhelmingly committed by men) if we as a society encouraged men to understand the full spectrum of their emotions and to build emotional resilience. People of all genders could certainly benefit from such a mindset.

ichlibejuice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have never in my life seen it implied that that is okay outside of rap music.

Amydangerish ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:47:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You haven't met me.

demonballhandler ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:09:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes. I was an angry, bitter person and my temper was very bad. I would get angry in an instant. It took a long time and a lot of work, but I am now the least angry person I know. I can control it. I own my anger.

illradhab ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:34:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Agreed. I try not to say anything while angry, but like...holy shit my siblings piss me off sometimes. Takes a while to chill out and maybe a few cigarettes/a beer/a joint to circle back around and discuss it civilly.

TrollManGoblin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:58:35 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you can turn it on and off, you are not angry, you'r pretending to be angry in order to get what you want. Honestly, fuck you.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:54:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

nah, my dad was 6'4'' 220 and would beat me and my brother in public. my friends used to laugh about when my dad took a broom stick against the back of my knees mid-run for being too "annoying". he's broken several of my glasses growing up with an open handed compton slap. idiot had to buy me a bunch of new frames and lenses or he'd get in trouble with my elementary school because I wouldn't be able to see. now that i think about it, the only thing that seemed to scare him was me being sick and not going to school for the day, which was not allowed. he stopped hitting me around 16 after I had been weightlifting for a year at school, he punched me in the chest and knocked me through my closet doors. I picked myself up off the shattered wood and yelled at him to take another swing because he hits like a "bitch" i still remember the look on his face. definitely the reason i weightlift today and used to beat the shit out of anyone who gave me a sideways look growing up.

tldr: sometimes your parents beat you and it's up to you whether you let it negatively or positively affect your situation later in life, i'd rather be beaten growing up then grow up in utter hopelessness and poverty where human life is cheap and death is a regular occurrence.

[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 11:18:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:50:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

no, my dad wouldn't let me stay home if i was sick.

starrynight451 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:07 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

His dad was afraid the government would come down on him for suspecting nichilismo was sick due to some for of abuse/neglect.

juel1979 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:27:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Unless there is an undiagnosed problem. Adult ADHD can cause angry outbursts.

acidsoup12 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:05:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here until i turned 15 and knocked my dad through a door for being a complete tool. Ever since hes been an amazing father. I think he realised that screaming and breaking shit doesn't solve anything. Sometimes you have to speak their "language" i guess.

Khanati16 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:11:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was little my dad stomped a coffee table to pieces. He would do that kind of stuff all the time.

Real_Adam_Sandler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:41:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know this is gonna get me download and it's probably insensitive and wrong advice but...

Have you tried slapping his stupid face?

ricottapie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad had a wicked temper. He would just fly off the handle. He was never physically abusive, but he'd growl and swear and rant, then wear those traits on his sleeve with pride. "I rant, it's what I do."

No, George Carlin rants. You just talk a lot of shit.

jacob8015 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad is like this, but I'm about 12 years younger than my brothers so my dads starting to get old. I also work out a lot. He can try and intimidate and yell which worked back when he was 30-40, but now that he's nearing 55, if he yells all I have to do is stand near him and its quite obvious to botu of us that there's no real threat.

photogenicmusic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom has borderline personality disorder and can be very manipulative and has the worst temper. Can't figure out an app on her phone? She'll throw it out the window. When I was young and she would fight with whatever abusive bf she had at the time she would take any glass object in the house and smash it in the tub. This included things I had bought her (like little figurines from the dollar store for Christmas) and I would be heartbroken. She had me at 18 and because of all her abusive relationships she always told me that no guy wants to be friends or wants to marry you, they just want sex. I wasn't even allowed to have male friends for a while. There's a lot of things that I have to teach her now because I realized she's been wrong about a lot of things.

Donnaguska ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mine would get furious if we had done something wrong or were disobedient or rebellious. I don't remember the things I did wrong, but I do remember the fear of waiting for him to get home, the terror listening to him rage at me and my siblings for hours while we stood in front of him, getting so tired I wished he'd just belt us already and get it over with.

switchingtime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck that shit. When he's like that now he needs to be put in his place. I'm not saying it's your responsibility since that could end very poorly for you (physically or otherwise), but he's a grown man with grown kids who should are forced to deal with that. Like he can grow up or have you out of his life...at least, in an ideal world where you can afford to do that.

plop0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:25 on August 26, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:11:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same with mine.

Dads suck

test_tickles ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 05:34:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He needs professional help.

[deleted] ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 05:41:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Trust me, he would be the last person to go and seek help. If he's anything like my dad, he thinks he is perfection in human form.

test_tickles ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 05:51:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think we have the same dad.

Malfeasant ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 07:19:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

no, just that's pretty common among mentally imbalanced people. my mom is fucking insane, she scoffs at therapists, psychologists, anything like that, she believes she is perfect, and the reason she has so much trouble getting along with other people is they all suck.

test_tickles ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 07:27:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I see my ex-wife remarried and had a kid.

nuiro ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:01:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same with my mom. Everything bad in her life is either a)because of other people b)didn't happen. She talks the whole time about how she is the victim but when you even suggest that she could do something about it she gets extremely angry and will rage for 3 days. Then she says sorry and pretends it never happened. The sad thing is that I think deep down she knows about her fuckups but that reality is too terrible for her so she is in denial.

boneghosts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:32:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like she has a personality disorder. Borderline or narcissistic. I know this because my my mother in law is both.

ichlibejuice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:45:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nah man. I think everyone else sucks but I also acknowledge that I suck too. I just don't talk about the things I dislike about myself as much as I talk about little things others do that annoys me.

Don't imagine it's too uncommon.

elbatalia ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 07:04:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It is so sad to hear this from so many people. Can someone explain why they behave like this? I grew up in a household like this and my SO in the exact opposite. My parents never show any affection to each other, but my SO's whole family, hugs and kisses almost every day. I was so surprised when I first saw them hug for no reason. Just because they were there. But of course when something happened between my SO's and his father, (nothing much, just a little nugging) my husband thought it was the end of the world, and I just brush it off, because you know, I have gone through hell and that was nothing!

Zeikos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:33:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's more cultural than personal, i would say.

In my limited experience here in Italy the more south you go the more hugs and kisses are the norm the more north you go the more uptight people are.

Kids learn from parents and habits become traditions in the long run, it doesn't mean that parents which are less physical in shows of affection don't have such affection.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:07:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cold ass polentoni... when will they change?

Zeikos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:39:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hey, my ass is kinda hot in the right circumstances ;)

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Have you been with a terrona? ;)

Zeikos ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:34:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well I have a friend just like that, I'm taking my time at bitchslapping him with reality, I hope he will get better before he has kids.

queen_oops ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:36:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
AlRubyx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:21:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ex0tica ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 08:29:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And here I felt so alone.. I even had a social worker at one point my my mother warned that he'd murder us if I didn't lie. So I did. He never changed. Punched me in the head a few weeks ago over something so small. He's always wanted a boy so was always disappointed when they had a girl. I'm so sorry you have to go through this because I know all too well how much it hurtts emotionally and in my case, physically.

lamireille ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 09:02:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm going to reiterate what TTTaToo said--tell a mandatory reporter (e.g., a teacher, or your doctor, or someone on a crisis line) about what's going on. If you're under 18 it has to be investigated. It sounds so obvious to say this, but it is NOT OKAY for you to be punched in the head... it's not okay for that to even be something you have to fear. I truly wish you well. I wish for you to have safety.

TTTaToo ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 08:48:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's not good. How old are you? Have you called any support lines for advice?

BladeOfScrota ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:49:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everything you just said i can relate with my brother. Im sorry you have to go through that with a parental figure. When that panic feeeling sets in, my chest tighening up, it ruins my whole day. Or even week

g3istbot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:05:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My Dad was the exact same way, he would get upset at the littlest of things. We were kids, and we could be clumsy or not be entirely aware of certain things, but he didn't care. We had to creep around him or else risk upsetting him. It got to the point even when I was really young where I'd try to hide out in my room most of the time just to avoid him. I didn't do it entirely out of fear, but because I was so eager to make him happy at all times, I believed I was being a "good boy" by acting like I wasn't there.

aIexthegreat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:20:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh my god. I thought I was the only one like this. This extends to whenever anyone is angry, I always hide or try to apologize even when it's not my fault. I actually get nauseous when people are really angry. So I'm really glad to read your post ๐Ÿ˜ญ

whiffbouquet ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:58:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

someone post this in relationship questions or twoxchromosomes-- how the fuck are we supposed to deal with stupid crazy fathers like this? i find myself ready to pound the hell of of this deadbeat idiot - any suggestions?

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:18:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Make them take responsibility for there actions and challenge the idea that they do these things because they are upset or it's their nature. It's pure controlling behaviour, a habit they have got into which benefits them greatly, and there is no excuse for it.

TrollManGoblin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:13:04 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Make them take responsibility

If that's a joke, it's not a very good one.

ssigea ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:23:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Asshole dad here too. My therapist recommended writing out all my feelings against dad in a book. Slow and eventual release although am still angry inside

that1persn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:29:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I usually vent to my friends or just think about moving out. Btw your first sentence made me thought you were an asshole dad lol.

Vleda ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:36:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was in a relationship for a number of years with a woman who grew up in this kind of situation. Her dad tried every underhanded thing he could to break us up from having people call and harass me, calling the police to report imaginary crimes to even trying to set me up by inviting me over to talk while hoping to goad me into attacking him on camera (I laughed at his demands and he threw his coffee and tried to tackle me instead; he still turned the video into the police. Lol)
Eventually her abuse got much worse and she was too depressed to feel any love for anyone so we broke up. Being one of her only friends, we still talk daily though.

rattus_p_rattus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:37:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was the same growing up. I was terrified of hearing those stomping footsteps down the hall. It affected my relationship with my dad and, unsurprisingly, men. It affected my self esteem and self worth. Only in recent years (I'm now 33) with my own children and issues with depression have I begun to understand my dad. He's since sought help, as have I and our relationship is a lot better. We live on opposite sides of the country so that has helped. Although I can still find those feelings and anxieties return when I'm around him with my kids and I worry that they will piss him off.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:03:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dude, that is exactly like my dad. If I ask him if we can go somewhere, he pops off at me for being ungrateful and shit.

plop0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:33 on August 26, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TheAdventMaster ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:34:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad wonders why I don't talk to him now. I sent him an email saying that behaving in that way is completely unacceptable. Threatening or intimidating people to get your way or deal with stress is not something that should be considered normal at all. Someone shouldn't have to go outside for a smoke just because they heard an opinion that disagrees with their mindset in the slightest way.

Seems like he gave up at that point.

I get a feeling - because I used to deal with it as well and snap all of the time when I was caught off guard - that moderate autism, anxiety and obsessive disorders run in my family.

I've worked really hard to not only deal with those issues, but to focus on being more extroverted and compassionate. Trying to pay attention to other people introduces a new dynamic that has adapted me well for organic change.

I went from hitting my dog and yelling at my daughter when they'd make me upset to... well, I don't even yell anymore. Everyone around me seems a lot happier, and I learn so much now that people feel comfortable speaking freely :)

topkat13457 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:43:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I tend to do that too except sonetimes i fight that feeling a lot because I'm a guy and don't want to be looked at like a puss. It's shallow I know but it taught me to stand up for myself and got me a few black eyes.

Skeeter_BC ยท 104 points ยท Posted at 04:50:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Omg, I just realized that I do this.

BrutalWarPig ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 04:58:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So do I. I got all quite and timid. Conflict always meant yelling and screaming.

Findpurplesky ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 06:50:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm still at 28 trying to get over my household dynamic and be a normal human and I moved out a decade ago.

My dad was (and still is) a very angry man, never really physically abusive (he'd occasionally spank my sister and I or be rough dragging us into our room etc) but his tantrums were horrendous. One of my earliest memories is me and my baby sister stood in the hall with our coats on to go for a day out somewhere and my dad loosing his shit over something at my mum and then telling us all "well if you can't behave I'll just go on my own" then driving off. I remember just crying my little heart out as my mum took our coats back off again.

My mum hasn't helped either, her way of coping was to "minimise" it all and manipulate my dad. I see she did it with love and to keep the peace but it made for emotionally fucked up kids. Unintentionally gas lighting us pretending things didn't happen. She genuinely misremembers evens and I'm glad I have my sister who has the same memories or I'd think I was going crazy.

He's still like that but because I don't live there it doesn't bother me as much and my mum has since grown a backbone without kids in the house to protect so he's not scary and has no power. He's just a sad old man who throws his toys out the pram and sulks about it. He's entitled to his misery but we aren't sharing anymore.

lizarasaurd ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:33:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit are you me?

I'm glad things have gotten better for you at least

oskiwiiwii ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:15:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is me

boyferret ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:54:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You yell and get angry?

Skeeter_BC ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 05:03:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I become quiet and invisible at the first sign of confrontation.

boyferret ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:08:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know, was messing with you, I do the same.

Angsty_Potatos ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:19:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I destest that there are so many of us like this. It makes navigating conflict in our adult relationships a bitch and a half :,(

War_Cloud ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:57:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, he gets abusive if his family disagree with him.

boyferret ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:59:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's messed up.

test_tickles ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:33:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's using anger to get your way.

RavagedMuffin ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 06:09:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My ex was like that, and unfortunately I think she still is like that. Her parents are a pair of bastards but they're divorced now, her dad would beat her up as a kid and her mum told her all manner of horrible things from "you ruined my life" because she was an accident, to...I don't even know. I didn't want to know when she told me because I knew I'd barely be able to contain myself.

But I found out that she was like this because the first time I ever raised my voice, it was over something completely stupid and she had every right to shoot a response at me, but...she didn't. She just sat there, really quiet, and not saying anything. I sat there in silence for a bit too, confused as to why she never said anything, and then the realization just hit me all at once. I felt like a pile of shit.

God, I hate it when people are brought up like that.

overlord-ror ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:18:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You just described me. I'm a 31 year-old who has never had a serious relationship because I'm afraid of opening up to people. I was raised in a household where my mother constantly told me how I ruined her life. If I did anything that displeased her she would unleash a torrent of violence on me, coupled with the most hateful shit you could say to a person.

One incident that is seared into my skull is I was bringing in groceries once from the car. She never helped with this task and she never helped put them away, so here I am, 9 year-old me lugging a family of four's groceries in by myself, expected to lug a chair around the kitchen to put all the groceries up that go in places I can't reach.

She told me to put my dad's Cokes in the fridge so they'd be cold by the time he got home. So I did. I put the whole case in there. That wasn't what she wanted. When she opened the fridge and saw that, she grabbed me by my ponytail and pulled me off the counter and threw me against the fridge and started kicking me in the ribs, telling me that I'm the stupidest kid she's ever seen and she wishes she would have aborted me like her mom wanted because I'm so stupid.

All I could do was cover my head with my arms and try and draw my legs up to my stomach so she couldn't kick the soft part of my stomach. Begging her to stop just made it worse and if I cried or made noise it made it worse, so I had to learn to endure those tantrums by being completely silent.

RavagedMuffin ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:08:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I sincerely hope that you're doing better now, or at the very least making the steps towards leading a better lifestyle.

What I'm going to say from here onwards, I only say because I don't know if you've been told it yet or not:

It's not your fault. It will never be your fault that your mother treated you that way. And any half-decent person will understand that.

My ex was terrified of opening up to people as well, hell, the only thing that caused her to open up to me was that she'd made me terrified when I heard her crying in her sleep and begging someone to stop, I even told her that if it's something that's painful for her to talk about then she can stop at any time but she said that she'd rather have my mind at ease, and it's something that she's kept in for too long regardless. I calmed her down, talked to her and made sure she had my full attention as this went on, and because of it she managed to let down a barrier, one of many. From there, I managed to help her open up more and more to people, and everyone around her started to realise how happier she'd become. It eventually ended because things happened and she didn't love me any more, but we're still on good terms and she's been in a happy relationship for the past two years, before they wouldn't last much longer than a month or two.

Again, I sincerely hope you're doing better.

TrollManGoblin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:46:05 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One of my earliest memories is my mom screaming at me that I'm autistic, because I "don't understand that my crying is making her upset".

ginpanda ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:45:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i'm still trying to explain this to my mom. As a kid she and my dad didn't treat their mental health as important and she was angry all the time. Dad still is. She's much better now, except now she gets upset when I get panicked about making choices.

rilian4 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 06:32:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"You must unlearn what you have learned" - Yoda..
"Ain't it the truth...ain't it the truth" - Cowardly Lion

I'm with you. I suffered from an Angry, verbally abusive dad as well. I cringe in fear when I sense anger heading my way. He was a good dad in many ways, no other abuse...just still struggling w/ dealing w/ anger.

skatemeister ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:38:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here. The problem, I think, with anger like this is the unpredictability - the fact that it might all kick off for reasons that are nothing to do with you. We all used to walk on egg shells when my dad was home, and when he left the house it felt like a release of pressure and we could be ourselves. He'd lose his shit if he, for example, lost a game of golf or something similar and would take it out on us - being angry then sulking for days. I still dislike confrontation - but it get's easier to deal with over time. Stay strong - and consider talking to someone if you think it'll help. ITT I learned there seems to be a lot of us around, unfortunately. That is sad, but at least you're not the only one dealing with this.

rilian4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:49 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

oh I have talked to someone...I have had therapy dealing w/ various things including this. My dad is also bi-polar which exacerbated things. He didn't take meds for it until his 50s and he's off them now due to some dietary issues (he has many of those).

masonryf ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:00:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This hits close to home, I know that feeling too well.

[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 06:57:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And even if you know it's not your fault, you still feel guilty for some reason. It's hard to shut that feeling off.

alliseeisme ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:36:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

fuuuuck yea.

skatemeister ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:38:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

10/10 agree.

VaBomBom ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:58:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here. Never understood why. And I absolutely hate it.

needs-an-adult ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:45:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I kind of know what you mean... My ex was not physically abusive because I think he knew he could not get away with it, but emotionally he messed me up a little. My current bf is a super nice guy, but when he is irritable I am always able to pick up on it immediately and I try to appease. To this day, I don't think he has even noticed much less questioned why. I sometimes ask him why he is feeling that way and half the time he does not know himself.

Such a far cry from my ex, who would have responded that it was because I kept "interrogating" him.

maddadthrowaway ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:00:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I do this, and I won't ever forget the first time I saw it happen to my son. He was about four and I was yelling about some shit or other and just saw his eyes shut down. One of the cornerstone events that led me to therapy, etc. I still tear up when I think about it.

TrollManGoblin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:57:12 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're a good man.

barristonsmellme ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:58:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

mines the opposite and it's just as annoying. My family are great but my mum and sister are both easily very over dramatic over little things.

It hit a point where "Oh my god will you just shut up, grow up, and get it sorted" was said like 5 times a day.

Now when anyone has any issue at all my first instinct is to say "no fuck off it doesn't matter" and try to shut it down as quick as i can.

Sometiems I'd rather take quiet and invisible.

YeahBear ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 05:59:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah... the unstable dads aren't annoying. They're scary, and you grow up with high stress hormones, kinda twitchy on the inside, and as others before me have stated, afraid of confrontations, so you become a "tool" a "pushover". ..."annoying"

Angsty_Potatos ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 07:23:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Going to have to show this thred to my so. I have been trying to tell him why I find it so hard to talk about disagreements, this is why. I equate unhappiness with the beginnings of an all out rage and just shut down because thats how I got thru the first 17 years of my life :/

YeahBear ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:11:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm almost 30 and I still let people just walk all over me. It's kinda hard to not hate myself because of it. I know it's not my fault, but it sure as hell is my problem.

alliseeisme ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:35:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow, yea dude. I'm totally there with you.

SATANSroach ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:57:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

:/

nuiro ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:09:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom does both: Endless lamentations about everything but the moment you don't affirm her she goes into ragemode that lasts at least 3 days. So the only thing you can do is to listen to her ramblings and smile and nod. Conversing with her is like walking trough a minefield.

osteomiss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:14:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh. That's what I do. It's all making sense now, I grew up in yelling household and I completely try to disappear if someone gets angry. lightbulb

Saacool ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:25:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same so much it hurts

Xiaco9020 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:44:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes. Exactly.

lizzyblizzyb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:10:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hear ya....

Phylar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:18:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I went in a different direction. I prefer to do things like stay out of the center of rooms, or move quietly. Sometimes though, just sometimes you have to make yourself known. Through all the abuse of my childhood I have learned many things. The most important to me though is how to know when to take your time. In high stress situations I don't panic, I observe and act. I want to say that is mostly due to my own development early on.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:48:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes!! I even struggle with friends who are loud and boisterous or have a bit of road rage etc. when people raise their voice I revert back to being a frightened child and just kind of freeze and tense up, it's a horrible feelings!

ssigea ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:22:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Asshole dad here too. My therapist recommended writing out all my feelings against dad in a book. Slow and eventual release although am still angry inside

sylviad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:29:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have that.

Blueangels482 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:05:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad was similar, never really the anything but verbally abusive, always right and good forbid you talked back. alcohol always made things worse so I hated his golf days because he just drank all day and my brother still lives at home and I feel bad. I cry way too easily when something is either getting frustrating or I can't seem to handle a situation.

ghostbustonmyboobs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:43:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same! If someone raises their voice, I always want to apologize and give in. I never realized it until I was in a relationship, and he clearly knew this about me very well because he used it against me quite often. The first time I called his bluff was awesome!

p8king ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:21:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Stupid angry people feed off of that... Makes them feel like they're right... It's just what they revert to... They are too ignorant to deal with, don't let it hold it's place in you:)

Dear_Occupant ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:32:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just FYI, that panicked feeling is a two way street. Most people experience it on some level themselves, and especially if that's their favorite trick to use on others. If you make it known that there are certain things that cause you to blow your top 100% of the time, those same people who do it to you generally won't go out of their way to pick a fight with you, unless they happen to be an exceptional asshole.

Meborg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:14:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm still unlearning this one... I try to be more assertive but I can't get rid of the panicked feeling when I feel like I might disagree with someone that is in a position to hurt me or reject me (in relationships etc, or with people who I want to impress or be close to). Thank you for making me realise this.

Riff-Ref ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:21:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's comforting to know I'm not the only one who had to go through this.

WaterLady28 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:32:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh man, I do this too. If I feel like someone is going to yell I just immediately stop talking and kind of shut down. My dad was never physically abusive but he was very loud when he was angry and sometimes would go off over the tiniest thing so my instinct would be to just shut up and disappear so I didn't make it worse.

Even now I have a really hard time speaking my mind about anything or telling people how I feel because I'm always afraid I'm going to say the wrong thing and set someone off. It's been over 10 years since I've been out of the house and I still struggle with it. It really sucks.

Genocide_Bingo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:39:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I ended up the opposite. I eventually got fed up of being invisible and started being really aggressive in arguments. I suppose being bigger than him in every way also goes some way to securing my authority too.

StrawberySwitchblade ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:12:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

That's awful. I need to keep this in mind because one of my close friends comes from a similar background, while mine is the opposite.

My mom's family argues a lot. Never in an abusive way, but they get loud. They get pissed off but they never dismiss you for being mad. There's no "quit making trouble" or "no one cares, shut up" -- arguments are not silenced. And when they're over, they're over.

So I grew up thinking it was normal to speak up and be direct. It took me a few years to realize that it could be off-putting to people not used to it -- a few people thought I was aggressive and angry when I was only trying to reach out to them and solve problems.

I'm a lot better at reading people now. Living in the south has made me much more diplomatic, while my mother still manages to offend tons of people down here without even noticing. (She's never nasty, she's just brusque in a way that translates as rude here.)

rhiw0707 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:14:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And feeling like I I have to fix it

RndmUserName123321 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:19:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here with my dad. He wasn't abusive, but he's bipolar and just yells and whines when he's upset. Best way to deal with it is to let him just go through it and not interact, because no matter what you do you'll probably piss him off more.

Likesorangejuice ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:25:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I do that too, but I don't know why. No one in my house growing up ever got really angry at anything I would say. My parents would fight and my mom sometimes got flustered and yelled, but it wasn't from anything I ever said or did, so I'm not sure why I developed the panic and quietly back away approach.

blitzmom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:26:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It took me being away from my parents for twenty years and divorcing a man who does the same thing to realize you can disagree with someone without them screaming obscenities at you and berating you. I still hate conflict though. I will avoid it at all costs.

_gina_marie_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:05:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nobody understands why I do this! And its not like you can just explain why either

breathewater ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:13:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Me too! :(

TLSMFH ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:18:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I totally understand. Whenever I'd fuck up as a kid, no matter how small, I'd get my ass beat by my mother, and my dad wouldn't do anything. I don't really resent them for it, because they weren't ever taught any other way of parenting, but it quickly taught me that the best way to go about life was to avoid doing anything that I could possibly fuck up, and if I fucked up, take the steps necessary to cover it up. If I didn't know something that they needed, I would get my ass beat, especially if other people saw that they couldn't function or that their son didn't know what they needed to know. This whole "saving face" concept is HUGE in Asian cultures. As a result though, I got really good at bullshitting and deductive reasoning.

I still lie all the time out of habit, and I have to make a conscious decision to consider what I'm saying before it comes out of my mouth and becomes a lie.

juel1979 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:24:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'll even hold my breath. It's a terrible habit and it's stuck with me since childhood.

tagged2high ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:30:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I met a girl who got very upset simply being around people arguing, or people in the early stages of an argument. It was very odd. Maybe she had family issues we weren't aware of?

lipstickapocalypse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:32:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow... this is me with my husband, and was the same way with my mom. I should probably be in therapy...

me2pleez ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:50:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've always called that "turtling"; when you pull in everything and try to disappear.

yougoodcunt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:32:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

probly just cause ur a pussy or something lol

sarahgene ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:26 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You might benefit from doing some research on Complex PTSD and learning some coping techniques.

PM_ME_YO_COOKIES ยท 1025 points ยท Posted at 02:50:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Dude, you just threw that bullseye straight at my past. Same shit, man. Got a vacuum cleaner thrown at me in 8th grade. Didn't hit me, but scared the shit out of me. I was crying in the corner and dad told me to not be such a baby.

Edit: GAHHHHH! RIP inbox, Story: was cleaning the house, sucked up a damp spot, and dad flipped out.

Sorry that you guys have had similar experiences, it sucks, guys. I left my dad when I turned 18. We have a very good long distance relationship, now.

popeyesmom ยท 265 points ยท Posted at 07:20:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom threw a vacuum cleaner at me when I was in 9th grade. My senior year she took a baseball bat to my room and destroyed everything. She tried to strangle me on three separate occasions - one of which was because I stepped in when she was getting crazy with my younger sister because she washed the dishes at my dad's house while we were there for visitation.

The pinky toenail on my right foot grows in two pieces because my mom threw a coffee pot at my dad when I was in 5th grade and it landed on my foot and sliced the nail. She once took a 350ยฐF pan out of the oven and threw it at my dad, but it landed on another sister's face (she was under the blankets on the bed that my dad was sitting on the edge of). Thankfully the blankets protected her and there were no burns. My mom told me that I'm the reason they got divorced.

My mom doesn't know what she ever did to me for me to not like her and it hurts her feelings that I don't tell her that I love her.

I think she is lucky that I even speak to her.

chuntiyomoma ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 15:05:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom doesn't know what she ever did to me for me to not like her

I always wonder why this is, it's a common pattern. Do they block it out somehow? Did she think the child was so unimportant the abuse didn't even register in memory (which also partly explains the abuse). Did it somehow just get equated with 'discipline' in their mind? Are they lying?

I believe the last one, they're full of shit. They know what they did. The type of person to treat a kid like that is the same type of person to then brush it off, play dumb, and expect to be treated well as if all was fine and dandy growing up. But I don't know for sure.

_gina_marie_ ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 15:34:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Idk my dad vehemently denies all the beatings/chokings/spittings/being thrown into that window, all the slapping, etc. Maybe they do?

chuntiyomoma ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:28:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It is hard to tell. It sounds like you brought it up to him though, that takes guts. Spittings. Jesus, that's brutal. All are bad of course but that's such a dehumanizing thing to do.

_gina_marie_ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:31:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well..... I only brought up the beating one time and I won't do it again. And yes. It's a horrible experience to have your dad slap you and you fall, and the he spits on your face. At least my children won't suffer the same fate.

chuntiyomoma ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:40:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I imagine it feels good to be a gentle and caring parent. Probably about the best "revenge" you can do.

WHATTHEFUCKAREPANTS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:38 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Agreed with this. And never letting your parents EVER babysit your children.
I'm not at all saying they can't meet or whatever, but I would never allow my parents in any capacity even the slim probability of the ability to abuse my children like they abused me.
It'll be a bonus when they watch their grandchildren grow up to be well-adjusted and thrive in school, go to university, etc., and succeed in ways I was not able to.

chuntiyomoma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:55 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The thing I don't get about abusive parents is they're so counterproductive. They hurt themselves too. Like with you, now they can't see their grandkids that much. But overall, why try to damage someone who could potentially support you later in life?

WHATTHEFUCKAREPANTS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:49 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I honestly don't even know when it comes to other peoples' parents; I have friends with abusive parents whom were abused themselves so they grow up and perpetuate the cycle because they never learned how to break it, or parents with mental illnesses who either don't get diagnosed or refuse to take medication (which becomes tricky, especially when the parents have co-morbidities, like schizophrenia and bipolar [My friend's mother has this and was very abusive. My friend, after a period of partying, went on to have a child at 20 a year ago; she and the father married last month and are amazing parents and she has a stable job and home now, and I am so unbelievably happy she finally has a loving, supportive family.]), some take out all their life's frustrations on their children, some use the children as a scapegoat for somebody else they hate in their life (like the absentee other parent), and some don't see anything wrong in the way they are raising their kids, etc.

For me, my parents were born and raised in Vietnam, whereas I was born in California, and so there's a lot of cultural differences between the way we grew up. In my experience with my family & relatives, we're all expected to listen to our elders and parents w/o question, dot our Is and cross our Ts. That being said, one of the things my dad did that was 0-100 real quick was wandering into my room and telling me to go to bed soon; I said "Okay!" in a happy, compliant tone and turned back around to the computer and he punched me so hard in the back of the head that my vision whited out for a few moments and then snarled, "I don't want to hear you say 'Okay,' you say, 'Yes'. Understand?" I'm pretty sure I just stammered out a meek 'Y-y-yes,' and then immediately crawled into bed and lay there shaking, staring at the wall my bed was up against until I fell asleep.

I plan on never having kids because I'm terrified I'll be like my parents, and I don't ever want anybody, least of all someone I'm supposed to raise and protect, to grow up jumping at every loud noise another person makes. I've been out of abusive situations for the past two and a half years and I still run every time I hear a man raise his voice or someone place a bag of groceries down too loud.

chuntiyomoma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:32 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good point about mental illness. I had a friend whose mom had schizophrenia and when he was a kid she used to scream bible verses at him and talk about demons. Not really intentionally cruel, but no stability at all.

It makes me so mad hearing about when you got hit in the head. You described the sense of vulnerability well. I hope you are able to relax some.

psinguine ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:13:11 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I heard someone say this before, and it rang true to me:

"You ever notice that the good mother's never say they were good moms? They always have this or that they wish they'd done differently or some regret about how they handled some aspect of their children's lives? And then you have these abusive parents come in who swear they were the perfect parent. 'I was a perfect mother' is never something you head an actual good mother say. Only those other types."

skinnyjunk ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:39:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

These aren't things normal people do. It sounds like narcissistic personality disorder. r/raisedbynarcissists is full of stories just like that one - parent is horribly physically and/or emotionally abusive, then denies ever having done anything but the best for their children and has an excuse for everything they did and it's never their fault.

chuntiyomoma ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:41:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah that makes the most sense.

nhnolan ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:36:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nothing so dramatic had ever happened between me and my parents, but my mom denies a few fucked up things that I distinctly remember her doing when I was a child.

popeyesmom ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:09:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's classic narcissism and in her mind she is always the victim. Her mother abused her and in her mind she was never half as bad as her mother. She is a psychological piece of work, for sure. She is medicated now and older, so her behavior has improved to the point that she is tolerable.

less___than___zero ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:21:52 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think a lot of abusers were once victims of abuse themselves. Perhaps she still thinks the way she treated her kids is "normal". Or maybe she's psychotic.

even_less_resistance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:41:20 on September 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know this is way late, but I just wanted to give you an example of how fucked up some moms can be...

My mother would tell me how lucky I was that she wasn't as abusive as her mother. While she yelled and berated us for literally three or four hours straight, threatening to bounce us off of every wall in the house.

This woman will look me in the eye today and tell me she is glad she dragged me all over the country when I was a kid. Glad she stayed with an abusive piece of shit. And she means it. Cause she is evil. But look at all I got to experience, she says.

BreakingInReverse ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 12:07:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus christ she is lucky you talk to her. Have you ever spoken to her about all this stuff she did?

popeyesmom ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:06:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes I have. It just leads to her getting defensive and screaming and acting like a crazy person. She is medicated now and is more tolerable.

Ohnana_ ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:13:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your mom is a crazy-pants. Like, jesus christ man. Thank god your siblings got out alive.

Semblio ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:44:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She's lucky you still describe her as "mom" to strangers.

ricottapie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:08:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit, dude. I'm sorry.

popeyesmom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks. I am a mother myself and I have broken the cycle. My husband and I take away our children's toys and privileges instead of using physical punishments. My husband and I have been married over 8 years and we have never had an argument. That's not to say that we agree on everything, because we don't, but we just talk through our differences. My children are having a childhood that is completely different from the one that I had, thankfully.

ricottapie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:36:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Parents who break the cycle have nothing but my admiration. My mom did the same thing. Her mother was what they called neurotic in the 50s and 60s; manipulative, easily threatened, overprotective, you name it. She was loving, just not easy to live with most of the time. But my mom is nothing like her and I think it's because she had her dad as a model of what to do as a parent.

EDIT: missed a word.

Jungian_Ecology ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 08:24:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're disrespecting yourself every time you speak to her.

iamdorkette ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 08:27:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's up to them to decide, family can be difficult. Even when they put you through hell, there's sometimes a part of you that still wants the bond.

Jungian_Ecology ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 09:02:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Have never heard a therapist say it's a good idea to stay in contact with your toxic and abusive family members.

puffypants123 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 16:44:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Funny, my therapist has helped me navigate the relationship with several toxic family members. Cutting them off would mean losing relationships with non toxic family members. Family is complicated.

iamdorkette ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:16:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, because it isn't. But people didn't always do what's best for themselves because emotions and family ties can be difficult.

AlM96 ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 11:59:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Because therapists have the answers to everything?

livelaughvomit ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:27:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Because that's common sense. As I'm reading this thread I'm more and more shocked and kinda horrified how much people are willing to forgive their abusers and still keep in touch with them. Just because it's a family. This is wild.

SoundcloudAddict ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:39:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not logical, but it's how their brains are wired.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:04:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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SoundcloudAddict ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:10:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same, unfortunately I still live with mine. Some people just can't help it though, like when an abused woman repeatedly goes back to her abusive partner.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:30:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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SoundcloudAddict ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:44:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I agree. Luckily I'm joining the military soon, although it does make me worry for my younger siblings. It's sad to know I'll never know what a healthy relationship with a parent is like, but on the bright side I'm aware there's something wrong and can move forward with healing it. Some people never get that far.

nhnolan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everything about how to keep your mental health in good shape.

eggmo1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:59:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dick.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:17:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

no?

lipstickapocalypse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:33:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Internet hug, my friend. I'm sorry you had to see any of that.

mifbifgiggle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:08:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

tell her to fuck off and die

IncredibleLang ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do you not have very big vacuum cleaners or are your parents beasts ?

popeyesmom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It was a regular upright vacuum that used bags, like a Bissell or Eureka. Not super heavy like a Kirby.

GizmoRobin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:21:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Next time she does anything like that smack her like the cuntlord she is

Anothernamelesacount ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit, what's with people and vacuum cleaners?

atleastitried9 ยท 102 points ยท Posted at 05:43:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I got carried up stairs by the neck and pushed down some stairs because my dad's computer was frozen when he got home and he assumed it was my fault. I'm between that, I was sat in a computer chair and smacked on both sides alternating so the chair would spin one way, when I came back around, whack, spinning back the other way... I finally just made up some story of how I froze it in hopes it'd stop and got told I was lying... In fairness, at that point I did lie, but it didn't matter either way lol...

ArkGuardian ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 07:21:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That sounds abusive as fuck. As much as I got hit as a kid, I wasn't ever put on some spinning torture treatment.

atleastitried9 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 08:48:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That was only like part 3 of 6 of that night sadly, but that night has specifically stuck in my head and dreams pretty badly. I actually had a baseball game the next day and had to lie to my coach about the bruises on my arms.... Told them another kid on my team hit me with a bat while warming up and they believed me I guess... Needless to say, I kept score that game, but also I was really out of it... It wasn't fun, head was hurting, really sore, and really tired that next day. I had a friend's parents keep me away until I had to get home to sleep the next few days.

[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 09:17:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Beast0fNight ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 12:37:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad is exactly this way. He's 69 and acts like an immature kid who can't be wrong. He literally will make scenes in stores if they won't take his coupons and they usually end up taking them even if they're invalid.

Don't get me wrong, he is good and patient for some things. But even though he is caring 70 percent of the time. He's a ticking bomb, where the right triggers will just blow him up, regardless of who it is or where he is. I feel he's too old to change. There have been times where I almost fought him, and I'm a pretty large guy that also lifts, so if we hit each other it would be pretty bad. I'm glad it never got to that as adults. But it does take a decent amount of restraint at times. So I do feel like the Dalai Lama around him trying to maintain the peace all the time.

ButterFlamingo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:09:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a friend's parents keep me away until I had to get home to sleep the next few days.

sigh of relief

atleastitried9 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 08:56:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For years though, whenever I'd catch my dad making a movement I would flinch, didn't matter what he was going to do, I'd flinch and be very cautious watching. That was until he began to notice, and he really didn't like that. I wouldn't tell him why either, which he didn't like, I eventually told him why.... Oh man... Shortly after I stopped flinching at his movements was the night of the spinning chair. Went back to being extremely careful and cautious right after

hamadubai ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 08:27:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My father would always take it out on my mother. Deliberately. If I wasn't the top 3 in my class he would hit my mother and tell me it's my fault. I was too terrified to ever do anything he would consider bad or anger him. I'm 31. He's a feeble old man now and I'm still terrified of him.

K1dn3yPunch ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:08:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This thread is really making me angry. (Just not the kind of angry I'm reading about of course)

joe847802 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 10:36:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't blame you. Hope you never delt with a father like that, I got punched in the gut once by my father after he through mine and my little brothers puppy against trash bins with full force, pushed him away from me and my siblings and I guess he didn't like that, once we got inside the house he step to my young brothers with anger, saw him raise his hand, pushed him again, and he turn and socked me in front of my brothers. Shit don't leave you and keeps you scared but I'd gladly do it again to protect my dog and my brothers.

level3ninja ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 11:08:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

once we got inside the house he step to my young brothers with anger, saw him raise his hand, pushed him again, and he turn and socked me in front of my brothers

And in that moment a child proved himself ten times the man his father would ever be. Props dude.

joe847802 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:10:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks. Wasn't so happy during that time tho, my brothers come to me whenever they have problems instead of our parents due to shit like this

_Artemis_Fowl ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:18:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's something you should be really proud of man! You're a real stand up Dude

joe847802 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:28:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks you random stranger. Is that last line from something though? I swear I heard it somewhere before.

EditingTips ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:28:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My apologies.

_Artemis_Fowl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:34 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nope! You were there for your siblings when nobody else was there for them. No wonder it's called blood relation Keep it up man! We need more people like this! Not fucking greedy people that dominate the world

joe847802 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:57 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Will do.

Beast0fNight ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:45:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Even though my dads an asshole he never hit my mother. He hit her once when I was a kid, and she told him if he ever did that again she'd leave and take me and my brother with her.

He never hit her again. He's still an asshole, but if he were to hit my mother in my presence or even if I heard of it, I'd knock him out harder than Marquez hit Pacquiao.

I lift weights two to three times a week just for occasions like this that thankfully I dont think will ever happen.

But still it surprises me how many of you guys have violent/angry fathers like this.

Is this part of that generation? Are younger men still like this? I'm 30 and I've never hit any female I've been with, much less yelled at them.

_gina_marie_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:47:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think a lot of this is with the older generation. My dad was beat like a dog by his dad, and in turn I guess he thought that was what proper discipline was? At least he didn't beat me with a belt or anything like that. I just know that this country has taken a turn away from corporal punishment in the last 30 years, so way past my father's childhood. I can't even fathom spanking my kid. I don't consider a swat on the bum to be abuse, but I got slapped enough that I would just feel like my father if i ever did that to my kid so I most likely won't. I never want to be like him.

MusaTheRedGuard ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:00:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm in my early 20s and my dad's an angry guy. He also had an angry father. I have issues with authority and I'm kind of an angry guy myself. Hoping to be the one to break the cycle

Milain ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:16:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is full on psycho. I'm really sorry you experienced this

alliseeisme ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 07:37:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's fucked dude. Fucked in the head.

adamthedog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:36:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bang bang

Seyon ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 07:50:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow...

My son (3 years old at the time) put 4 DVDs into my Wii U at the same time thinking he could watch his movies. I was angry, but I calmly explained to him that the Wii U can't play DVDs. When he asked why it couldn't, I didn't have a good answer for him.

CyberNinjaZero ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 07:58:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Because Sega does what Nitendont?

alienpirate5 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:49:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
neilarmsloth ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:34:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Abuse is different than narcissism

alienpirate5 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:36:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Read the sidebar.

neilarmsloth ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 10:08:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't get it

overlord220 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:17:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's the bar on the side, right side specificly. If you're on mobile you may have to hit the info button.

neilarmsloth ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 10:19:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Obviously I get what a sidebar is. Why am I supposed to read it though

overlord220 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:29:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is explains exactly what narcissist means in the context of the sub and how it relates to abuse. About midway down.

LiquidSilver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:40:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can you paste it here? I can't find it. Is it the bit about "abusive traits of class B personality disorders"? Because the parent would still need to be a narcissist for the abuse to count.

overlord220 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:53:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's the part.

Now, I dont have N parents, I just wanted to make sure it was clear in the context of the sub.

neilarmsloth ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:33:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's oddly specific

adamthedog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:39:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Read the sidebar/community-info.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:29:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Dear_Occupant ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:40:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty much everyone with a good reason to post in that sub has dealt with a lifelong feeling of isolation so they have a very strong desire to connect with others who have shared a similar experience. It is a bit spammy, but this is basically the kind of shit the internet was made for.

alienpirate5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

no

LiquidSilver ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 11:43:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And that sidebar: can't post if you're a narcissist, no downvoting, all "mean" comments are removed, typical hugbox.

LiquidSilver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:41:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't see any narcissism in this story.

alienpirate5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The sub is for all abuse, not just narcissists.

[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 05:50:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It would scare the shit out of an adult. There are a lot of asshole dads, unfortunately.

hvmanity ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 04:57:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I got a fist to my head after my mother screamed at the dogs and literally picked one of them up to toss him out the door. I simply told her, 'please don't touch me', when she patted my head while walking out of the room.

[deleted] ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 06:18:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad has only ever manhandled me twice. Once in middle school when he picked me up and held me against the wall to scare me, and another time when he lifted me out of bed and threw me across the room. Both times because I wouldn't answer him, but I quit trying to explain being depressed and stuck in bed all day years ago since he and my step mom told me I was full of shit when I first told them I was suicidal in 7th grade.

[deleted] ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 08:54:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that's classic

anytime you express yourself or are honest you get shut down and told you don't matter

and then later they say "why don't you speak"

they don't want you to speak and they don't want to listen, they don't care. they just want to control you, and blaming it on you for being quiet when no one ever cared what you had to say is another form of trying to shift the blame on you and control you.

spottyPotty ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 10:10:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit, this!! There are so many other things in this thread thread that I can relate to. But this one really hits the spot. For me it was also basically "you're too young to have an opinion". I closed up at a young age and then there were the guilt trips "you never talk to me", "oh how lucky [friend's name]'s mother is, he always talks to her".
Or else comparing me with the best characteristic of various other kids. Oh how lucky so and so is, her kid helps with chores, oh how lucky the other one is. .. etc. ..

_gina_marie_ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:41:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My father didn't believe I was suffering from depression because he thought it wasn't real. Amazing how his tune fucking changed when he got diagnosed with depression. Amazing.

-_FearBoner_- ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 06:55:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I got pinned against the wall for using a vacuum to make the sound effects of my toy cars. I was halfway between the on and off position of that cheap rocker switch when he snapped. The red Dust Devil โ„ข screamed in the background as he whipped his belt across my face, chest, and back. I never really understood that man's anger. As I've grown older, and harder, a more cynical view of the world has taken hold. I still don't understand the anger, but I've come to accept it as a part of the human condition. You choose the path you travel. I've seen the darker roadways, under thick brush and along muddy culverts. I choose the light. The well groomed roadways of peace and prosperity. Fear may push a man, but love always prevails.

[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 07:20:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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spottyPotty ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:12:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My strategy with my kids is to do the opposite of what was done with me.

AplombChameleon1066 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 07:19:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not always. Hence your old man whipping you to within an inch of your life. I wish you were right but you can't polarize love and fear and proclaim that they are the main paths to choose, it's all one gray gutter mate.

-_FearBoner_- ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:22:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Between light and dark is the most gray of gutters, mate.

AplombChameleon1066 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:21:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There is no dark or light, that's my point, it's your own reaction to your experiences of life and social constructs that provides opinions like that, there are physical forces in action in our universe, but the man made concepts of good and evil are not among them.
What happened, happened. You changed your perspective based on it, but there are infinite ways you could have gone, and none would be "darker, or lighter" in any way, anything if explained in full to others would be understandable. There is never a moral high ground.

AplombChameleon1066 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:26:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But I am sorry that this happened to you and I genuinely hope you've got a life that makes you feel fulfilled and at piece, I can really empathyse with you as I've been through some similar shit. Didn't mean to sound rude there, just offer my perspective.

Sohcahtoa82 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:08:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What the fuck did I just read?

headbasherr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:13:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Way too much booze in rn... Whatever the fuck that was blue my mind

WordBoxLLC ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:30:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Like a full fuckin' vacuum? Shit... all I got was a battery charger and 4 AAAs.

PM_ME_YO_COOKIES ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:52:59 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah a full vacuum. Upright, bagless. It almost landed on my foot, I was already curled up next to the couch on the floor. But as he threw it I scootched out of the way.

I think he did more damage throwing it, than I did, sucking up a wet spot.... lol irrational anger. He was an angry man.....

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:43:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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mechchic84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:46:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom never took an axe to the door because it was held shut. She just beat my ass when I finally left the room to go to the bathroom. Then she removed the door entirely ripping it from its hinges and replaced it with a shower curtain. She also did this with the bathroom door because people kept "slamming" it when she was trying to sleep.

She also ripped the radio out of the car while driving down the road and tossed it out the passenger window off a bridge almost hitting me with it in the process because she didn't like my "bang your head wake the dead!" music. The radio was poorly installed to begin with and had no mount to hold it in so it wasn't hard for her to do. We had an 80s style boom box in the car after that.

I got at least one good ass beating because I wouldn't steal things for her from the store followed by a speech about how corporations have insurance to pay for things people steal so no one was really losing any money over it. I never gave in on that one but she would openly tell me how she liked her friend's kid better than me because he stole stuff for her when he came to stay over with us.

I didn't live with my mom though and just visited on weekends. She was usually in jail though or running from the law. My father took off when I was 3 months old I never even met him. He couldn't deal with the crazy either. I spent most of my time living with my grandparents.

lewko ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:48:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That really....Sucks.

Breakfast-BAMF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:00:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My childhood was this but with extreme yelling, wall punching, and a hair trigger of anger. My dad isn't a terrible dad by any means. He works hard to support his home, and supported us as a family before I moved out. But looking back at how many eggshells I walked on just to avoid setting off a potential storm. It wasn't emotionally healthy in the least. I watched him get in my moms face and throw her on my bed and yell at her, which was the only time his rage was ever physically focused on someone in the house. That one stayed with me from a very young age to now. I remember one night he got so pissed off he took a kitchen table chair and destroyed it WWE style. It was in pieces. What set him off was a phone call with his sister (my annoying overbearing aunt) so the phone went through the wall as well...My childhood/teen years consisted of get home and clean everything as spotless as possible and then hide in my room until a.) he went to work night shift or b.) I had to go to sleep. At 28 now, and having been abroad and doing military things like he did...I can see why he is how he is. It's sad now because when I visit he tries really hard to show that he loves me and has always been proud of me. Probably because I never left my room or that we only really ran into each other when we were both at home in my later years and I didn't have time to sit down and chat. It's made having an intimate relationship with a guy really damn hard. All I know is how to avoid confrontation and conflict. I can barely keep freaking eye contact with a man and I constantly feel panicked around a man I don't know. It sucks.

mechchic84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:19:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thought I was the only one ever to have a vacuum thrown at them before. My mom threw it but it wasn't intentionally thrown at me. I was 16 and my mom had a bunch of roommates (freeloaders). She got mad that no one was cleaning the house but her and as I was walking up the steps (I didn't live there) a vacuum came flying out the door and missed me by a few inches while I heard my mom screaming "I guess we don't need this since I'm the only mother fucker who does anything around here!" I don't remember if she apologized or not. She used to intentionally put small pieces of trash in random spots in the house to see if anyone would pick them up. If no one did after a day or two she would flip the fuck out because no one picked it up. Her favorite projectile by far was dishes though. You couldn't walk around barefoot in her house for fear of catching a shard of glass in your foot. I've had plenty of plates/glasses tossed at me in my lifetime. We once swapped them out for plasticware when she wasn't around. She was so confused when a cup bounced off my head instead of smashing that it actually made her laugh. Especially when I picked it up and was like "look mom you can throw it over and over again" while hitting myself in the head with it lightly.

Genocide_Bingo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:44:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad threw a knife at me yesterday, threw it straight back at him and it went into his intestine. He's in hospital, I have no remorse. I wish I had threw it harder though, cunt treat me like dogshit for my entire childhood.

mkshades ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:07:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I got a heavy ass computer tower thrown at me for playing the sims too long

Khanati16 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:12:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My brother and my dad got in fist fights while my brother was defending us girls. He would just snap.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:04:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother throws heavy things at my head. When I point out how fucked up that is, she makes fun of me and says I'm being a baby and it's not a big deal.

puneralissimo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I see your vacuum cleaner at age 13 and raise you a hot iron at age 4.

Basically me, except that my reflexes suck and I still have a scar from the burn.

terib225 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:40:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I threw a Barbie across the room because my sister was being a straight fucking manipulative bitch and lied that I had hit her, and kicked her while my mom wasn't looking. My dad took another doll and threw it right at my face. Got a black eye, and missed a week of school because of it. I still remember to this day being told "well if you hadn't started stuff with you sister, you wouldn't have gotten it thrown at you" and I just couldn't believe that I got a black eye because my sister was being a cunt. First time I experienced my sister's outright sociopath behavior. Wasn't the last time. Funny now that my mom tells me "Well we didn't realize there was something wrong with her."

gnrp45 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandfather was like this to my dad and his brothers till my uncle who was actually smallest out then 4 brothers picked him ip and slammed him in front of the whole family. He was like 15 at the time but had been wrestling for years and finally had enough.

Asking_miracles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:19:39 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No one cares about your inbox.

PM_ME_YO_COOKIES ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:46:22 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Awwww, I love you, too!

Workingusrname ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:26 on September 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I get a peek at that. My dad tries to be the best he can because he basically had your dad, but it is really hard to unlearn coping strategies in tense situations. We have a dent in our garage wall from something similar. He tripped over my scooter after knocking it over while trying to get something else. He blamed me and the scooter, and instead of throwing it at me he picked it up, looked me in the eyes, turned around, and threw it caddy-corner across our 2 car garage. That thing flew in a straight line and I swear it did not drop an inch, it just went straight across at least 25 feet to some wood that was nearby, and bounced into the wall. It dented multiple 2x4s and the drywall. He turned to me and was just like "your fucking scooter does not get in my way, got it?"

"Yes sir"

He is usually really good, but throwing things is his way, and when I was a little kid he struggled with dealing with my emotions. "Why are you crying?! You have no reason to cry. If you want to keep crying, I have a hammer. You're welcome to go hit your own toes if you want to give me a good reason to cry. Your mom telling you that you just lost dessert tonight is no reason to cry. Cut the crap!"

I'm really grateful he tries though. His dad communicated with a 2x4 or a belt depending on if it was major or minor. Still, I really feel for you. Good vibes your way, man.

sizko_89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In 8th grade? Yeah man uh yeah.

[deleted] ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 04:48:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

We aren't siblings are we? My dad is exactly like that, even still on the rare occasions I see him. In his mind he is literally always right and any proof to the contrary is ignored because it can't possibly exist.

Example: playing scrabble and I play a word he doesn't know. Because he doesn't know it, it obviously can't be a word because his knowledge encompasses everything. So when I bring up the dictionary to show it to him (something he does all the time himself, he actually keeps a device nearby just for it) he literally pushes it out of my hand and says "Get that out of my fucking face, stop whining about it because you're wrong you fucking baby".

[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:52:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm whining about it because I'm wrong I'm a fucking baby

Interesting how he knows himself so well.

proletariatfag ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:04:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, that's called projection. My dad is the same. He will accuse people around him of doing the fucked up things that he actually does.

alliseeisme ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:40:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He's really just talking to himself.

Hiding_behind_you ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:48:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'd hope you found every opportunity to use that word, whatever it was, as often as possible in everyday conversation.

barto5 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 04:48:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same for my wife. Her Stepfather was a petty tyrant. Now she's introverted to the point that she "wishes she was invisible."

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:32:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Stepparents are awesome!

[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 04:58:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad was more verbally abusive, but would rage out and hit occasionally (never fists). So I was in the same boat. Until one day when I was like 17 and I snapped at a kid who was working on a project with me who wasn't doing anything, I was yelling. Felt good, but I immediately noticed similarities with the old man. Now I know when to stand up for myself, but I have always had a passive attitude to everything because of how I was raised, easier to brush stuff off. It screws me up when everyone at work is stressed over something but I look lazy. I get everything done no problem, but to coworkers along the way it looks like I don't care. Its just I know how to handle my stress levels and patience better (unfortunately)

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:55:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

but I immediately noticed similarities with the old man

This is inevitable, unfortunately. We absorb our parents behavior and spit it out on others. It's brain-conditioning.

It's very hard to become aware and control it. Some people never become aware-those people would be your dads, who are acting like their dads, who are acting like their dads...

alliseeisme ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:45:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Took me a while to realize that there was part of me that enjoyed when I was really in the "right" and could yell at someone, and really go off on them. And that I got that from my father. It's scary, but it's about honesty and self awareness and eventually letting things go.

AellaGirl ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 05:48:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have that feel. Sometimes people make fun of me for my passivity, but I don't know how to communicate to them the paralyzing anxiety that strikes me whenever I'm in danger of upsetting someone in a role of authority. I'm sorry, I can't help it =(

goaway432 ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 02:40:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's almost like you lived my life. I still struggle with this as well. But take hope, I'm told it gets better eventually :)

UristMcRibbon ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:54:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel you. That's almost identical to my story.

Now that I'm out on my own I've found it's incredibly hard to be assertive or to take the initiative in anything, I'm so used to being as passive as possible and unassuming. Constant walking on eggshells every minute of every day for years will do that to you I guess.

139mod70 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:24:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Any chance you jump every time you hear the garage door?

TrollManGoblin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:34:33 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why are you asking?

139mod70 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:20 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lots of stuff I wasn't allowed to do that I would do when the parents weren't home. Garage door opening meant dad was getting home, and he would be angry if he caught me.

Rambo7112 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 04:28:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

That's a little close to home. Since a few people also see this as familiar, would a crazy maker fit the description?

8dayzaweek ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:21:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

interesting read, thanks for sharing!

Rambo7112 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:01:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad is a crazy maker and a person at my mom's work actually gave her the term. Fits like a glove, and you're welcome.

Heroicpotatoes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:42:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

TIL I'm a mutherfucking stealth bomber

disorder_79 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:12:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Welp. This is something I'm just learning to deal with as I enter my mid-20's. If I talked back to my step-dad he would scream at me (which I learned to take like a champ, I thought) but then my mom would jump in and scream back at him. This either meant that they would just scream all night, or he would snap and beat the hell out of her, especially if they'd been drinking. Compound the guilt even more because they'd never hit me, just the person that had loved and cared for me since I was born

alliseeisme ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:47:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck, that sounds awful. We just have to keep working on loving ourselves now.

[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:17:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought this was like, the socially acceptable thing until I got my first girlfriend and realized not all parents will beat you to a pulp or threaten to make you literally eat your own shit if you question their demands.

quesakitty ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:57:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How does one begin to overcome this?

I'm asking for a friend. Who avoids confrontation because of this. It's definitely not me.

MonkishSubset ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:16:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Therapy if you can manage it. I didn't go that route, I probably would have been better off if I did.

Short of that, know that this behavior isn't normal. Know that you deserve to be treated with respect. Find healthy role models, and study them closely. Find your own strengths and start to build off them. Let time pass--that helps too.

atleastitried9 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:38:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm struggling with this right now myself. I feel for you and stand with you. Also, knowing that you are attacking this battle head on have the drive to overcome it is amazing and encouraging. Keep up the good in your life and do it for yourself! I find it helps that when you feel that way to remind yourself that you're the one that got to where you are and got to that position. You're worth it. You're the real deal. You're legit. And it seems to build my confidence back up to keep pushing forward for myself.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:00:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i hate how much i can relate to this

shichigatsu ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:47:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm working my way through that same experience right now at 22. Loud male voices are the closest thing to a trigger I'll ever have. I start having an anxiety attack and have to go hide and calm myself down. When people start raising their voices, even in a joyful or playful manner, it effects me just the same. I'm a full 6"2' 200 lb bearded man and it really hurts my self confidence.

I also got the bonus fear of crowds because my stepfather has panic attacks in large groups of people. I mean I try to see it as him trying his best to make up for things by taking me places as a kid but I always had a crazy amount of anxiety because I knew it was only a matter of time before he blew up.

DarkLorde117 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:46:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Might want to head over to /r/raisedbynarcissists

I think they'd be interested in your story.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:54:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Rage-aholic is a little bit different from narcissist in my experience.

DarkLorde117 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah it is, but the sub basically covers most realms of abusive parenthood to be honest. Check it out. You might be surprised.

Th3HashslinginSlashr ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:15:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Damn that's pretty fucked up I wish you luck

Spockthevulcan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:44:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom was a sociopath that never admitted she was wrong. She would make it my fault and if I did something for her, she would 'owe me'. She died of alcoholism. I get nervous when people ask me questions because I'm scared of saying the wrong thing. I'm sort of rambling. Sorry.

TheCapitalLetter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:44:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And then you are an adult still waiting for permission to speak at work meetings, social events, not even capable of complaining for bad services.

I have to give permission to myself to buy the food I want at the grocery store, and I live by myself.

Wellfuckme123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:18:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

"Because I said so is the worst thing a parent can say - This is why we have people lurking around the world doing evil things. Because people are afraid to ask why those things are still accepted and get shouted down for asking. Authority should not be respected if it cannot logically justify its own power. -Stephen Fry

Felkyr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Right.

My Dad still tries this shit when I'm a guest in his house, and I'm 22, and have lived away for like 4-5 years. It's more like a desperate grasp for power if you ask me. I was always so strong-willed I guess he never felt he had any control over me. I'd keep my mouth shut around him too because I'm not overly fond of being assaulted, but he knows I made sure everyone knew how much of a dog he was. He has no friends.

imwearingyourpants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:27:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm curious, how do you work with it? What do you do/try to do?

hi_ma_friendz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:31:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel ya, still struggling greatly with forming own opinions in public

Tubbytron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:34:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow you just hit really close to home for me. Once I'm out of school soon I'm looking to join the military but I worried about what will happen once my dad finds out. My mom already warned me a few times not to get into legal trouble with him in case he flips out so I don't ruin my chances of joining.

Beznia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:59:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm actually dealing with this right at this moment. My dad is drunk and he just got home about 20 minutes ago, tripped on stuff he left on the floor, and started going off on my girlfriend and me.

She lives with us and he threatens to send her back home, and is saying stuff like we're not going to be able to make it on our own or that he's going to start charging us rent while I'm in college and she's getting ready to start, neither of us with jobs. We just lock the door and sit in our room until he falls asleep.

EDIT: Now he's yelling about the kitchen being a mess when he's the one who gets food out and leaves it on the counter. I'll wake up some days with an entire gallon of milk open on the counter that was left overnight or a loaf of bread outside the package, then I get yelled at for making a mess or not cleaning up.

deathro_tull ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:09:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom was the same way. Not throwing things, but you weren't allowed to like foods she didn't (she refused to allow them in the house), you couldn't have an opinion on the clothes you wore or the movies and music you liked. She was and is the biggest bully I know.

grillo7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:11:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here...no one really talks about that aspect of abuse, but I still struggle with that over two decades later.

Smoddo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I struggle but it's got nothing to do with my parents tbf. It's got nothing to do with anything but being timid as fuck

Chad_Radwell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:19:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was raised by my grandparent and "was" in a very similar situation with my grandfather. He would just yell and throw fits. My grandmother, bless her heart would just agree or just say "yes dear". I used to be yelled at a good bit too and I would just shrink away. At the beginning of this year he yelled at my grandmother and I said something trivial which turned the yelling at me and it clicked. I am 20 years of age, he is old and weak he can't the do anything to me. So I yelled back and just let it out and explained how he was angry for no reason. After I finished he looked at me and calmly said I understand. Things have been a bit different since then but it's a good different.

randywine610 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:31:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some of the same experience. Taught me to be a good dad, by not being the same.

ForksnFrenchFries ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:31:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Currently dealing with this now actually. And I've recently turned 18 which has helped a ton but still makes things incredibly tense around my dad

Bananapepper89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:43:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same, I apologize for everything if I even think I might be wrong. It's not a good way to live life, hopefully I can teach my children better.

ShadowSlayer74 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My wife is from a similar situation and most of our arguments stem from me wanting a simple explanation for some random silly thing and her panicking thinking I'm going to get angry over it.

I try not to set her off, but when she panics if I ask if we are out of peanut butter I don't know what to do.

Cat_Servant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I agree with this wholeheartedly, I grew up in the same sort of environment, so I never said no, never did what I wanted to do, I still don't sometimes.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:22:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You know what you have to look forward to? Throwing the same abusive tantrums for days when you get older. You won't notice it at first - but when you do it will be an "OH MY GOD I'M MY FATHER" moment.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:35:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah man, it takes time to get out of old mindsets and form new ones. We were all raised a certain way and sometimes, and whether our parents realized it or not, it did more harm than good depending on how they went about things. I struggle A LOT with speaking up for myself and I often get discouraged when I need to. I don't like arguing with people, but even when the situations calls for it, it is incredibly difficult.

7hrowawayCharacter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:45:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to teach my Dad I had my own opinions when I was a teenager. My Dad is still schizophrenic and a on/off alcoholic, and because of that environment (and genetics too probably), I have a lot of issues too, although I think I'm dealing a lot better with mine.

I think he saw me as an extension of himself, and if I had a different opinion, or wanted to do something different, he took it as a personal offence. I went into therapy at 14 (mental health issues, not my Dad), and started trying to turn my life around at 15.

It took years of sticking up for myself and never backing down for him to get the point, (which, warning, probably wasn't very safe), and I eventually got left to make my own decisions. I know he's genuinely always cared about me (in his screwy ways), and I care about him, but I'll never let him have any control in my life again.

KazanTheMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:12:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck. Nailed it on the head. I struggle with this on a daily basis. It's like a micro panic attack.

ssigea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:22:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Asshole dad here too. My therapist recommended writing out all my feelings against dad in a book. Slow and eventual release although am still angry inside

ssigea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:22:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Asshole dad here too. My therapist recommended writing out all my feelings against dad in a book. Slow and eventual release although am still angry inside

Czsixteen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:56:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is exactly how it is in my house. 20 years old, every time I start leaning towards a profession and my friends say something negative about it I instantly drop it because my life has been all about my dad shooting everything down then exploding if I go against him. Working towards moving out and rooming with my friend so I can be rid of him for good.

Butthole__Pleasures ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:01:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you my wife?

marakiri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:17:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like we share dads or something

DazzlinFlame ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:33:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's kind of sad that this post just speaks to me. My dad's been fucked ever since he ruptured his apendix and went into septic shock a few days later and his brain got fried.

robertx33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:47:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The best is: "I'm not ordering you! You have the option to leave the house if you want."

Well gee I didn't know.

spanishrelease ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:08:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Have you strolled to the nightmare that is https://www.reddit.com/r/raisedbynarcissists ? Might help you in understanding and managing your parents.

hahka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:28:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, my dad raised us with this concept that he never lies. It's difficult now especially when I try to call him out on his bullshit and he just scoffs and gives me the silent treatment. Fucking weird superiority complex or some shit.

rurixsama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:50:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am deeply saddened that so many of us had the same childhood. I call it the "silent crying" or breathing so quietly so they don't find you hiding panic, putting dresser in front of door cuz you livevin a huge hunting state and can't trust a crazy drunk old man with access to several guns. I was diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder so it's still a daily struggle even though he's been dead since 2010. I really feel for everyone on this post.

biogirl52 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:00:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel you so much. It wasn't until I moved away from my home state and was single for awhile that I learned how to be my own advocate with my own opinions. My parents to this day are just total doormats and I feel it's a large reason why I've gotten steamrolled so many times in my life. I was taught to be quiet, don't rock the boat, live my life safely from a couch. I was miserable. I learn how to find the satisfaction even in my failures.

ihateburgers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:13:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ah, a kindred spirit.

PM_ME_DREAMCASTS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:15:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

TIL my family was abusive

AlRubyx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:19:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Phew lad. I had to protect myself from my dad with a baseball bat once. And he was by far my good parent. I'm schizoaffective now and can't do much of anything but talk to people on the internet smoke weed to fend off anxiety and/or lock up for hours.

Snowbard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:19:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What was the abuse

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:22:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You must be a Milford man

zirdante ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:25:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm totally in the same boat as you, brah. It takes effort to say what you feel, especially if its a conflicting opinion. Even something as trivial as not agreeing with something with a group of friends.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:27:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That scary moment when I realize why I'm so passive

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:27:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Damn, I never realised there are other people like me who stayed unnoticed to survive. I was a social trainwreck in my teenage years. Shy, can't speak for myself, can't small talk, can't make friends, can't make proper choices... Luckily some friends helped me to get "normal". And this all because of an abusive father whom I never was allowed to question. I forgave him deep inside, because he's a psychopath/narcist.

Cromm123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:35:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My bruh

dizdi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:06:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This sounds so familiar. And even at 47 I still struggle.

uminyuq ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:07:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same effect but different method for me. It's hard for me to even talk to people without the fear of being yelled at.

My mother was/is single. Shit happens.

Khanati16 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:09:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Me too. My little sister struggles with it more than I do, but it has always been a problem. That and avoiding conversation with people. Thinking that someone is always mad at you or doesn't like you. The list can go on and on. Being abused leaves you damaged, maybe even forever.

bluedude45 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:12:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah. I remember that. I joined the military to leave and found out I walked primarily on the front of my feet and had to relearn how to walk basically. They called me twinkle toes. I didn't realize I always walked like that to make less noise so my dad wouldn't hear me walking down the hall or anything 'just in case'.

Starkerou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:24:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shitballs i had to learn that it is okay to ask for things and speak my mind. I'm still squeamish when I need to ask something from my boss or even just to ask a question.

TheAdventMaster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:28:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh my gosh, other people like me. I've had a lot of people ask why I don't talk to my family. Was I hit regularly?

No, but that's because I learned to keep my mouth shut.

Whenever I spoke up, someone would get upset and I'd pay the price.

Artemissister ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:29:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here. I've posted before that I wasn't allowed to have boundaries, and this is where it came from. I hate that I still tend to find the people in life who seem to sense? Or pick up on? That I can be steamrolled pretty easily. It makes me FURIOUS.

infiniterevolution ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:44:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy fuck, my wife was raised like this, she's definitely come a long way but I didn't understand how hard it was for her to make decisions because she didn't want to rock the boat. She waited for me to make decisions, and then just agreed with everything I wanted, we have sat and had long conversations about how she's my partner and equal. Sometimes I notice her just idly going along, but she definitely makes decisions for herself now. I can only imagine life like that, and I'm glad you have found a way to get past that too.

Blue_Blazes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:45:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

my ex had a dad that was like that. She always felt guilty saying "no" and making her own choices. She moved to another state to get some space and some freedom. I think she is happier.

CosmicCody ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:49:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well Eric.. You shouldn't have been such a dumbass

Why_you_no_like ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:04:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow! All this time I thought I was the only person that had to grow up like that!

DoingNice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:19:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I still have this problem, hopefully I'm about to move out. Do you have any tips on how to recover from this? They will be much appreciated

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:20:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How I was too... but when I learned how to stand up for myself, I had to then learn when not to as well. It's a tough balance. I loved my Dad (He killed himself a few years ago) but god damn, was he a flawed individual. Growing up as a kid, I of course was a pain in the ass from time to time... but the way he handled it, was just weird. He'd challenge me to fights, as a freaking like 12 year old! One time, when I was probably 10 or so, my Mom started screaming for my older brother to help, her and my dad were of course fighting back in their room, good lord, that's my entire childhood, them fighting... anyways I found out later on in life, that my Dad was threatening to shoot himself if she left him, with his gun out to his head. I found out after my Dad died, that he had been married before he married my Mom, for like a year. They had been divorced for nearly 10 years when he killed himself... He disappeared for about a year when I was 18, after he just packed up and moved out one day. I mean, I block most of the shit out that's happened to me, but just thinking of that little of stuff right there, makes me think to myself, god damn! I had a fiance, in my early 20s that tried to kill herself a couple times.

bluesbird11288 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:22:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What the effing fuck. Reading this (and the similiar stories below) just breaks my heart. I just want to hug all of y'all and whisper over and over, "It's not your fault. IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT." I hope y'all already know that, but it can't be said enough.

hulksmashdave ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:31:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If I "misbehaved" in public, my father would take me to the men's room wherever we were, grab me by the hair, and pin my head up against the stall wall until I was quiet and went back out the way he wanted. "Misbehaving" was really just making noise or embarrassing him slightly due to the actions of a 7-year-old with undiagnosed ADHD.

We don't talk now.

dkey1983 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not to take anything away from your story, I'm completely saddened to hear of the abuse, but I think some of the unnoticed behavior seems pretty par for the course for a lot of people before transitioning into adults. I was never abused and had similar problems with just trying to blend in to avoid the confrontation of standing out. It took until I was about 32 for something to click to where I stopped giving a fuck about what other people thought.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You know seeing these sort of things I feel like we need a website for good dad/mum advice. So not to tell THEM what to do but to help kids see what ad understand what their parents do and how it affects them. I to this day still struggle to speak up and I can pretty clearly state that I'm very different when Im at university vs when I'm at home. In situations where my parents and friends are around I default to quiet but around other people I can speak easily and talk crap. It's mainly cause my dad refuses the idea of letting me speak to him as an equal/friend (Actually doing postgrad and even though my major is in Information engineering he still argues with me about these sorts of things). He's never abusive but it's either his way or he throws a tantrum (to the point where I've realised that my younger sister gets all her overreating from him which is basically me realising a 50+ year old man has the temprament of an 18 year old girl. At home I bascially shut up and don't talk to them about anything. Not about relationships (lol) or my religious beliefs or anything like that simply because he has a massive tendency to overreact. He basically seems incapable of understanding the fact that the way he has lived his life isn't the way EVERYONE should live their life and yet he expects that. Once I'm done I'm moving out asap. I know there's families that have a lot worse issues but that sort of environment really isn't conducive to me being myself. Sorry for the long post..needed to rant a bit

GeorgeNorman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:32:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I totally feel this on a day to day basis as an adult. I had a dad who never liked when I spoke about things I was interested in like science, because he was always skeptical about it. So I stopped talking about that. Whenever he said something I disagreed with, we would fight tooth and nail. He would throw a mantrum and so I stopped doing that. Eventually I became someone who never said what was on my mind, and a big problem avoider. I always would concede to my dad in fights because I didn't have his relentless energy.

As an adult, I tread on eggshells constantly trying to avoid upsetting situations. Sometimes I see myself as a bitch for letting people walk all over me. But in the end, I don't know any other way to act. At this point it is instinct

whyilovethemoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I never knew this was abuse. I always just thought that it was normal, that every family was like this, that all children were treated this way. Growing up I thought that being hit, slapped, pushed, threatened, and screamed at by your parents for just sitting and breathing was normal. I never realized how toxic and abusive both mentally and physically my parents were were my friends always told me how much they liked them... but they always acted differently when people could see.

It wasn't until very recently that I realized that the way they were treating me was wrong. It wasn't until my adopted mother's husband pinned me against the wall and punched me while my she watched that I realized I had to get out. To this day she denies that it happened and calls me a liar. It's been almost two years and I can say without a doubt that I have never been happier in my life. What they did left me very damaged, but I'm getting better and better everyday.

bofm_overflown ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit, it's weirdly satisfying to know that you aren't alone in situations like these. My dad sounds identical to yours, and growing up all my friends pretty much ghosted me because he acted so nice in front of everyone, so they always thought I was lying. What made it worse was when it became evident that I didn't have any friends left, and then dad could use that as bait to tear me down.

Not that I'm happy any of this has happened to any of these people, but it makes it easier somehow.

HeyLookATaco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hi. Me too. Thank you for putting words to this - sometimes I forget why I always try to disappear into the background. You're not alone.

PizzaRollsAndWeed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:37 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

wow THIS.

HAHAHAHAHAHA5 ยท 3363 points ยท Posted at 03:18:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Yep, the "I'm always right" and "just listen and say yes" and the "don't talk back to me!" even if it was to ask a question... Went from being a confident, outspoken child to a teen who ended up agreeing with everything after YEARS of arguing and emotional abuse, because agreeing was the best way to make the awfulness stop (and sometimes even agreeing wasn't enough, maybe because it was "too easy" and they didn't feel victorious or in control without arguing and throwing a few barbs first -- you have to agree with them after they force you to take their side).

The shittier part is, those types of parents often equate anything other than immediate obedience, even if the messages they're sending are contradictory (i.e. trying to get a kid to do exactly as you say, exactly when you say it, to maintain some sort of upper hand or control, even if you said the opposite an hour prior), as disrespect. They also expect their kids to stand up for themselves in any other situation (i.e. one they're not directly part of), despite conditioning them to acquiesce and not ask questions.

That shit really fucks kids up, even if you mean well.

Edit: this also applies to parents changing their tune (and often blaming the kid) if the advice they forced their kid to take doesn't pan out the way they hoped it would...

[deleted] ยท 1578 points ยท Posted at 05:28:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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thebossdisciple ยท 303 points ยท Posted at 05:52:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It must be a good, content life to be so wrapped up in your own sense of privilege to take it out on your own children on a daily basis. So indulgent of these parents, they get their release valve for their anger and frustration, they just don't realise the kid will turn their back on them once they get some modicum of control... (decades later)

bigpuffyclouds ยท 166 points ยท Posted at 07:55:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You just summed up my life growing up in a dysfunctional, abusive household. I'm absolutely enjoying taking back control and cutting them out of my life. It's funny how they act like victims now.

Gr33n_Rider ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 08:22:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ugh this, it makes me feel crazy, like I'm the bad person even though he abused me for my entire life.

Da_Banhammer ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 11:56:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Speaking as a father, you don't owe them a damn thing ever. Not money attention or even politeness. Don't let them convince you otherwise.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on me when raising me. Surely I owe them some of that back?

Apolik ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 15:18:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No. It was their obligation and responsibility. They weren't doing you a favor.

[deleted] ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 14:43:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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TheBros35 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:51:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think he means that OP doesn't owe his parents anything because they were pieces of shit

[deleted] ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 08:57:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

gaslighting

ignore it bro

cachila ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:06:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What ever they say, you are not a bad person for removing the from you're life.

Khanati16 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 13:17:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God, my parents too. I stay away from them as much as I can. They are users and abusers. My husband and I are doing really well for ourselves and they ask my sister all the time how much we make and what we are doing with our money. My older sister has brought up the abuse as an adult and they act like they never did any of the stuff she brings up.

Stina_maria ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 13:52:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This this this. Oh man. If someone makes more money than they do or has something nicer than them, they act as if it's OWED to them, or they're entitled to it. That's how my dad is. When my sisters father in law passed away, my dad said "oh man, they're gonna be coming into some money now". I was so shocked those words actually came out of another humans mouth after hearing of a persons passing that I just stayed silent. I was so disgusted that I came from this person. When me and my husband first started dating, he told other family members "yeah he's a good guy, he's got great credit and makes good money". Don't even get me started about income tax season..

mechchic84 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:43:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Reminds me how my mom told me to marry a military man because that is where the money is at. She told me love was fake etc.

I figured why the hell do I need to depend on someone else and joined the Army myself to get the hell out of that fuckhole of a place altogether to make a better life for my family.

BTW she was wrong not a lot of the military makes a lot of money. In comparison to her income yes a lot more but compared to other decent jobs not really. Of course she was selling Pizza/Prostitution and getting high.

She never said I owed her anything but mostly because she rarely gave me anything. I pretty much raised myself while she went out partied days on end and got high. Half the time she had to decide which was more important electricity, water or gas. I had to search for coins in the street/couch/bottom of vending machines to feed myself and then walk about a mile to the store alone at 8-10 years old.

When my grandparents died she was pissed they left the money to her sister instead of her. She threw a fit because my aunt wasn't even grandpa's daughter they were half-sisters (she made sure my aunt knew how she felt and said this stuff to her face). I'm pretty sure grandpa was just worried she would smoke up all the money instead of being responsible.

Stina_maria ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:25:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ugh. It's ridiculous how similar our lives sound. Drugs always came before kids in our household too. And I also had to take care of myself and my little sister because my mother was too high to function. And my dad was busy with his affair and other life and dealing. The funny part is now that I'm a mother - they have the nerve to criticize my parenting or my daughters father. Simple shit too like "why doesn't he pick her up from school instead of making her ride the bus! He's so lazy blah blah". If you don't laugh at the delusion you'd cry I swear.

mechchic84 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:04:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In a sense I was lucky and unlucky that I had no siblings. It was very lonely for me growing up and as a result my social skills aren't always the greatest. I don't have another person to share that misery with so to speak but at least no one else had to go through the crap that I did and I didn't have to worry about a brother or sister's safety all of the time. My mom did sometimes scoop up random kids off the street to live with us here and there which are as close to siblings as I ever had though. Most of them had pretty shitty lives too. Some of them stole from us or got high in the house. Some of them were okay though.

I didn't want kids growing up but now I have 3 of them. One of them lives with her father in another state but the other two live with me. It can be difficult on me at times raising my kids because I didn't get a lot of raising from my parents. No one noticed or cared if I ate cookies for breakfast, lunch and dinner or if I ate at all for that matter. I cleaned the house because I wanted to or needed to (roaches, rats, etc) not because someone threatened me. They weren't home long enough to do that. Sometimes I would get my ass beat for not doing chores but it was inconsistent at best and I was rarely told to do them in the first place.

My mom had my son for a while because she got custody when I was a minor (16) and trying to get him back was difficult. She had a laundry list of developmental disorders that she claimed my son had and was getting welfare for him and court ordered child support from me. The court system said she got to keep custody because my son had an adjustment disorder that moving him out of state would be more traumatic than letting him stay with her. It wasn't until she kept him in the hospital out of school with her when her liver started shutting down that CPS finally decided he needed a more stable environment. This was also shortly after she lost her house in the projects and was officially homeless. Whenever she would slip up before, I would try to call someone but she would quickly "fix" the problem before they would take him away from her. She was a master manipulater.

She died 3 years ago at the age of 49 from cirrhosis of the liver/alcohol abuse. She went from crack to clean for a few years followed by alcohol and adderol.

Stina_maria ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:17:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm very sorry to hear this. She was terribly young and it's very sad that she passed before righting a lot of her wrong she made in her life. My mother just got clean herself (she has hep c from a dirty needle and is finally trying to get treatment for it. My dad is hindering her tho because he can't control her without pills. So she's fighting daily to stay clean while he's trying to get her to take them again) and I'm lucky enough to finally have a mom. This has happened many times where she'd sober up and then fall off the wagon so I'm hoping it lasts til the end. It hurts knowing you never had that opportunity to have her clean and sober in the end. I know what you mean about it being hard to be a mother... Affection was something I didn't know existed so I struggle to show my kids affection as well. Not because I don't want to I just.. Don't think about it? When it's something you never got its almost like it's something that doesn't exist. So I have to make a conscious effort to remind myself "show Olivia affection. Hug her. Tell her you're proud of her. Thank her for doing a good job at xyz. Give her a kiss goodnight". It's not like I don't FEEL these things, just hard to express because it was never expressed to me.

mechchic84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I totally get it with the affection thing. While my mom did all the kissy I love you crap when she was there but she didn't really show me that it was more than just words. The empty I love yous have made it hard for me to see true meaning to the words. All the times she would say she was coming to pick me up but then never actually showed up or just took off without me as soon as we got to her house made it seem pointless. If she did take me to the drug house I ended up sitting in the back room alone for hours because she didn't want me to see her getting high. Then she would bad talk my father for never being around but she was doing the same shit. It left me confused most of the time about what it was all really supposed to mean. Don't get me wrong I was upset my father wasn't there but with her behavior I really couldn't blame him for dissappearing. I was just mad he didn't take me too when he ran off. The most I knew about him is what family has told me and a few phone calls months before his death. I've been referred to in past relationships as being cold or unemotional (my current BF sometimes calls me Spock as a joke, it's ok though because he had similar issues and I jokingly call him frozenblackheart). He is still the one to remind me to give my kids hugs and stuff.

My mom's boyfriend had hepatitis from homosexual activities which my mom did not approve of (and started many fights) but she stayed with him anyways. Apparently according to her doctor she was naturally immune to it after a few blood tests. As far as I'm aware he is still alive. He was a real piece of trash though and used to beat on her/steal her stuff to sell for drugs. When she would put him out he would come back crying a few days later "a changed man" and she always took him back in think this time would be different. For a few days it really would be but not long after the cycle started again. I spent at least 2 years not talking to her at all for taking him back. I told her it's me or him I can't deal with this anymore. She chose him. Of course as soon as he got toted off to jail again she called me saying she left him but when he got out if jail she was the one to pick him up and give him a place to stay thinking he wouldn't get high/beat her anymore.

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thebossdisciple ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:42:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I know its just the cycle of abuse, no parent wants to treat their child that way, it's just their way of coping, however blind they may be to what they're inflicting for future generations.

TheAdventMaster ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 13:36:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh my gosh, other people like me. I've had a lot of people ask why I don't talk to my family. Was I hit regularly?

No, but that's because I learned to keep my mouth shut.

Whenever I spoke up, someone would get upset and I'd pay the price.

SadGhoster87 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:04:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, but that's because I learned to keep my mouth shut.

Whenever I spoke up, someone would get upset and I'd pay the price.

Holy shit.

My dad has been trying to teach me this exact thing like that's how it's supposed to be.

TheAdventMaster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hang in there :-/ Are you over 18 yet?

I had to leave home to learn anything. I was a completely useless adult for 3 - 4 years. Didn't know how to cook, drive, clean, socialize, maintain a normal schedule or routine, etc. Thought houses were solid all they way through like they're shown in cartoons.

Not sure why so many people have this obsession with treating their kids in this pathetic way, but kids become adults soon enough. 18 isn't even that old, to be honest. You need a lot of training to be a suitable individual by then. Barely now getting my shit together at 25, turning 26.

Hindsight is 20/20, but some things in my upbringing were so obviously wrong.

Thankfully, my daughter's mom has a more sensible southern-like upbringing; she's tough, but very fair and an excellent communicator. I care a lot about emotions and being open since I never had those kind of things. The resulting balance is fantastic. Happy, curious, strong, excited baby. A little bit on the soft side, but that's because we treat her well haha :)

TrollManGoblin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:17:19 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thought houses were solid all they way through like they're shown in cartoons.

What do you mean "solid all the way through"?

TheAdventMaster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:34:32 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought all houses and buildings were just like solid brick or concrete. I had never thought about all of the layers involved, especially in American housing construction.

Like, I was surprised to poke a hole in drywall and find it was hollow underneath. Never understood that.

TrollManGoblin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:49:17 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think it depends on the kind of house and when it was built.

TheAdventMaster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:08 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, for sure. I was surprised to hear many Europeans live in stone houses. It's tempting to study more on the topic. Seems like there's a lot many people don't know about. German windows, for example.

TrollManGoblin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:40 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's usually bricks, not stone. What's weird about German windows?

TheAdventMaster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:54 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

People don't know about them! Windows in Germany are super fancy compared to what I see here in the USA.

Would never have thought something like this exists: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT8eBjlcT8s

Ferfrendongles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:52:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cough baseball dads! cough cough.

Screamingnoodle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:53:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly right here!!!!!!!! Nail meet hammer.

LedinToke ยท -29 points ยท Posted at 08:46:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

to be fair you could just do the damn dishes

User__One ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 10:55:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm going to rip your arms off and skullfuck you if you don't do the dishes but it's fair 'cause you can just do the dishes, right?

LedinToke ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 16:11:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that doesn't seem exaggerated at all, but yeah do some fucking chores without being prompted and ur dad will probably be less of an asshole when he comes home, it's not science.

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LedinToke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:03:34 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

whatever you say, i don't really care

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LedinToke ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 15:53:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i don't care about downvotes don't worry about it, that's just how it goes. Sometimes people feel like they shouldn't have to ask family to help out around the house for things to get done and i imagine after coming home to it after presumably working all day that he'd just get frustrated after a while, it's not entirely reasonable but i can understand it.

reapy54 ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 13:12:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This reply is actually fair in the example given. What is happening here is an overstressed parent is coming home and seeing more work that needs to be done, and that nobody has helped out with that work.

That the kid knows damn well he has to do the dishes, but decided to sit around watching tv. When you get yelled at to do it, and only then do you jump up to do it, it is still frustrating that you had to be yelled at to do your part in keeping the house up.

The main part isn't how the argument goes down, but the fact that the dishes still aren't done, and you don't care enough about the house or doing your small, small part of living under the roof that parent is sacrificing years of their life to own and maintain for you. That's what makes people irrationally mad.

But also I realize there are some parents that do treat kids like slaves and are way too extreme, that could easily be a case here, but yeah, let me tell you, I never respected my parents properly despite thinking I did until I started raising my own kids. God damn we are all assholes, we really are.

TheAdventMaster ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 13:40:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Doesn't matter if you've had a stressful day at work and the dishes aren't done. Learn how to more effectively communicate and also discipline or set expectations of your kid. Yelling like this honestly doesn't do anything for anyone.

If this is consistent behavior, it just makes the parent seem ineffective. Kids look to their parents (often without knowing) for how they should deal with different situations. You need to be constantly improving so that your kid can benefit.

Plenty of people know how to deal with stress just fine, even when it feels overwhelming. But you have to put in effort and learn how to do it. You have to learn how to communicate. It's so easy to learn how to get better at this online or to ask for a little advice in a forum...

EDIT: And hey I get that this kind of thing happens. Everyone gets a little too stressed or fatigued at times to be an effective communicator. But it should be viewed as a mistake or less-than-ideal thing when it happens. I admit, being a parent is really hard (I became one not too long ago), but we need to have high standards for ourselves - both in terms of our capacity to function and our own peace and happiness.

reapy54 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 13:55:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well yeah there is flipping out irrationally everyday like an animal, or just getting frustrated some days when you walk in and nobody has done anything. Granted I'm not at that point yet but I have some friends at work with older kids that tell about getting irritated with them not helping out around the house, it is easy to get frustrated.

Thing is I don't know why you expect people to be 100% rational at all points in their life, especially under lots of stress. I really have known no person in my life that is 100% in control at all times.

My point here isn't the first part about setting expectations, this situation sounds like expectations were set, and not followed, repeatedly. It's having a 1 on 1 adult talk with the teen about doing something around the house and they still don't do it, and the resultant frustration after the adult discussion is ignored.

Anyway I do agree with you, and there are a lot of assumptions going on here in the dishes scenario, but yeah, for the same reason you give kids a pass from time to time, have to give parents a pass from time to time too (but obviously not constant irrationality)

TheAdventMaster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:27:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I gotcha! I mean, your reply makes sense. I get that people can get frustrated about these things, sometimes.

I've heard that kids like knowing that they're helping. They don't want something to be just a chore. Because then the chore doesn't make sense. The kids don't feel like they're learning.

Try to involve your kids with errands from an early age (even though I know that's stressful - my daughter is young, and doing chores with her easily takes 2x as long as doing it by myself), and let them know how much they're helping you, how much you appreciate the help, and how getting things done is a necessity.

That won't guarantee they won't play games later on, but it might help! I don't know, we'll see :) I have to wait for her to grow up, first lol.

EDIT: Oh and I don't mean to lecture you. Just regurgitating some advice I've been given.

LedinToke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:10:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

thing is my dad would yell at me for the same kind of shit but it never bothered me because i really should have done the dishes or whatever else before he got home anyway

force_of_one ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 12:24:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Comments from people who haven't raised a child to adulthood. You babies are so abused.

LedinToke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:26:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

you don't even have to raise a kid to realize it's frustrating to come home and do more work after working all day

ojajaja ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 09:32:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Tbf chances are the parent is probably stuck in a shitty situation at work which is why they release their anger onto their family, rather than life being too good for them (at least from my experience)

thebossdisciple ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:45:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I know. Its just an easy cop out to take that anger out on your kids, though I know those parents don't mean to, especially with hindsight years later and some are capable of forgiveness and learn from their mistakes

tvdinner4me ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, that's still no excuse

potasaurusrex ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 12:27:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dude, exact fucking mirror of how mine was. Shit started to really kick into high gear when I was in second grade and he beat a stutter into me BECAUSE I DIDN'T ANSWER A QUESTION RIGHT ON A FUCKING LEARNING GAME. LIKE FOR REAL DUDE. Thank god I overcame it mostly (still happens every now and then). But shit went haywire from there until the grand climax of him committing suicide and blaming me and my mom. We're pretty much cool now, though six years later we're still undoing his damage but overall his death was just what we needed to be happy.

SchrodingersSpoon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:30:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What the actual fuck

WgXcQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:33:56 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

his death was just what we needed to be happy

What a pathetic epitaph to a life. I'm glad you're rid of him.

Genocide_Bingo ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 12:47:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Guys please stop describing my childhood, it hurts.

The constant yelling over anything, the toxic barbs they drag up from mistakes I made years ago, the slightest issue made into a mountain.... At one point it was even physical violence. Fuck I had such a bad childhood :(

SadGhoster87 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:05:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

the toxic barbs they drag up from mistakes I made years ago

"Well, it's not like you're any different now"

TheAdventMaster ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 13:36:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh my gosh, other people like me. I've had a lot of people ask why I don't talk to my family. Was I hit regularly?

No, but that's because I learned to keep my mouth shut.

Whenever I spoke up, someone would get upset and I'd pay the price.

rahtin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:36:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Reading this makes me really glad my mom was just high and watching TV my whole life. It's impossible to have a conversation with her as an adult, because everything I say is wrong, I just snap back at her no matter how hard I try not to.

SadGhoster87 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:02:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad does this. He loves being dissatisfied with whatever I do.

There are times when I don't know how to do something and two possibilities will happen.

I ask him for help and he has an hour long scream at me about how I need to learn to think for myself and learn to do things.
Or I try it, and fail, and he has an hour long scream at me about how I always think I know everything and to always ask him for help if I don't know something.

Bonobosaurus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:58:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There is no right answer :(

Grape_Juice620 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:40:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That hits home pretty hard. I was always the "smart-ass" growing up.

DaftRyosuke ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:56:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like my dad. It was such a relief when my mom finally divorced his sorry ass.

tefftlon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:41:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Damn, just realized I grew up with this exact scenario playing all the time.

Screamingnoodle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:55:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And they expect you to take care of them when they are old and them being old is a reason for them to continue to abuse you.

balamory ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:56:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

aahh looks like we got ourselves a trigger thread... guess its tears and sobbing instead of sleep tonight!

ricottapie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:10:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fucked up that people are blaming you for this.

_gina_marie_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:11:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad would scream at me and then say something like "I'm not yelling to hear my head roar!" and little me would be like, then stop yelling???? (Internally of course)

msnrcn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I still deal with it as an adult. If anything my childhood only prepared me for basic training where the name of the game was to just focus on graduating and tuning out the pseudo rhetorical hurricane of sensory overload flooding in at any given time.

PizzaRollsAndWeed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:59 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i think we have the same dad

meadstriss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:39:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Omg we have the same father.

walstibs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:55:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Vile

Lamb-and-Lamia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I despise rhetorical questions. Like with an insane passion. That said we all make them from time to time so we should be more than aware of what they actually mean. In this context they are complaints. They are the same as simply saying "Im pissed you didn't do the dishes." So obviously complaints require an apology. An actual answer is you being a smartass. It's you saying "don't ask me a rhetorical question" which newsflash not the right response. And you just getting up to do them is obviously also not fully respectful either. It connotates that you are bothered and just want him to shut up.

To me its very clear that what you should have said was "Sorry we'll do those now"

Gonzobot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:01:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just punch him straight in the throat. There is not much else of a solution to a jackass like that, unfortunately. It won't even solve anything; it'll just make him realize how he's made you feel with his attitude.

Good luck.

ssuperhanzz ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 08:40:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'd scream "Charlie Murphy!" and go Greek on all the crockery.

Doctah_Whoopass ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:49:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Saying "no" to the question of "did anyone bother to get off their ass and do the dishes today?" is pretty smartass reply. I wouldnt have been that harsh but I think its kinda reasonable to get slightly miffed if your kids didnt do the dishes.

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jesusatan ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:57:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks for the rant. This is very similar to my childhood. Glad to know in not the only one out there with parents like this. Not sure how I've made it as far as I have in the military with the whole I just roll over when people get mad. (The one time I didn't resulted in an hour long ass chewing for standing my ground.) Only about a month ago did I finally cut myself away from them completely. Still really hurts to think about it knowing my kids probably won't really know there grandparents anymore but was necessary for the mental health of my entire family.

BlackViperMWG ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:30:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

when I'm asked a question I don't bother telling the truth, I just give a constructed answer that I believe will cause the least tension

That's basically what I learned from having a perfectionist mother. Just say something she would believe or what she wants to hear, doesn't matter what truth is. Also, everything you say is gonna be used against you sometime later.

DraconisMarch ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:38:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents were always good

parents would absolutely explode anytime me or my brothers did anything "wrong"

constant beratement about how bad we are coupled with comparing us to other kids we knew

Yeah guess I'll just take your word for it then.

crazyjkass ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:21:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was in the same situation and the school counselors/teachers I asked for help basically said I had no real problems because my parents weren't thinking about divorce and they didn't hit me that much. :/ (fairly conservative Texas town)

half-idiot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:20:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not the original poster but I think I can clear it up a bit for you.

Keep in mind that I live in India which complicates the situation even further and is a big factor in my judgement of their behaviour.

My parents are normally okay human beings, not that amazing but I'd put them in the better half of the human population. The thing is that they come from poor, broken homes and weird traditional backgrounds with not so great surroundings, so, they have no idea how to react to situations and events that occur with an average kid in a normal middle or (in my case) upper-middle class surroundings. Or basically how to raise a kid. I was the experiment child, and once I stood up for myself they mellowed out a bit, and I like to think that because of that my younger brother has a more open and better environment to grow up in.
but I digress, apart from the outbursts, un-needed anger and wanting to have total authority over everything, they provided me with every material thing that I needed. Be it school supplies, the best food they can get me, and things like electronics and musical instruments. and tried to impart as much knowledge and experential wisdom as they could.

TL:DR :- they were trying their best, just did not know how to do better.

DraconisMarch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:22:41 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Kay but just because they were trying their best doesn't mean they were actually doing a good job.

zerru575 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:37:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You speak the truth. Without discussion there's no room to learn. Discussion is the only real way to learn, in my way of thinking. Of course if your brother gave the discipline out, while your parents just backed them up, you'd develope a kind of hatred for authority. Yeah my own adult life's tougher then I'd like, but at least I'm alive. Hell half the time i feel deflated with a constant doubt that I have anything of worth, always having to ensure what I say is what people want to hear is the hardest part. All I can do is say fuck it, do what's needed and return to my safe place where I can talk to myself and not need to worry about what anyone's gonna think.

I'll end the rambling here. Thanks for your time. Keep calm and carry on, cuz Lord knows it's not legal to ripe a motherfuckers head off, disembowel them and force feed there internals to them.

speedofbananas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:27:53 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

coupled with comparing us to other kids we knew

My parents would do this but if I ever made a comparison I was told "I don't care about what other kids do!"

Matrix4791 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:30:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know I'm late to the party.

My childhood was similar. I have always had a very hard time focusing for any length of time. My parents had a hard time understanding this and would yell and punish rather than attempt to discuss or teach anything. Don't get me wrong, I love my parents very much and I am grateful for the childhood that they gave me, but if you give me a list of 10 chores to do without writing them down and then leave for the day and expect them to be done when you get home, you're lucky if I remembered 5 of them and in my mind everything you asked to be done was done. They would ask me why it was not done and then cut me off and accuse me of making excuses/being lazy.

When I got into high school this translated into any problem or conflict I encountered always being somehow my fault, as though no one else in the world would have any reason to be irrational so it must have been me and I'm just lying about it. I was a quiet kid in school but I had a friend that was a troublemaker. we had the same english teacher my junior year. This lady HATED my friend. Grades come out halfway through the year and I'm failing. I cant figure out why as I had done all the work given and gotten good grades on it. This teacher had never been nice so I explain to my parents that she must be associating me with her hate for me friend. They tell me I'm full of shit and ground me, then send a letter to the teacher asking why I was failing and what they could do to help. She sent a letter back to them informing them that they were worthless piles of shit for raising a being like me and if they wanted to help they would lock me up or advise suicide. Either way she has no idea why they would even ask as they had never bothered to be parents in the past so why start now. My dad immediately called a meeting with the principal and her in order to confront her. The pricipal looked through my grades and comments from other teachers and noted that I had never been a problem before. The teacher basically admitted that what I had told them initially was right and she just hated my friend so much thatI got caught up in it. Still was grounded as there was no wayshe would have acted like that if I hadn't done something.

I took a different path in how I dealt with it all. I am pretty outspoken as an adult and I absolutely love a healthy debate. I love to learn and try to understand diferent points of view, but I do not shy away from conflict. If people get angry with the fact that I disagree with them I ask what I have done to offend them, if the response is logical and I was inadvertently out of line I apologize, if the response is not logical I inform them that they are being petty and closed minded and that is a little pathetic (I do have a bit more tact about how it is phrased). This includes my interactions with my parents.

It is difficult sometimes, but I try to have meaningful discussions with my children about issues that arise. I try to teach them how to better handle situations and always tell them that what they are going through is normal and that they are not bad kids, they just haven't finished learning how to be adults and they will get there one day. I let them know that they have a voice and my job as dad is to teach them how to be good people. I ALWAYS let them know that they are loved and valued in our home no matter what, even if the situation requires punishment of some sort.

Sorry for the wall of text. Reading this thread really made me need to vent.

TLDR: Similar experience in childhood. Grew up to be an opinionated asshole that loves his kids. Lol

keepupwitcardassians ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents would rant and rave if I ever disagreed with them, would mock my learning disability (asking questions they knew I couldn't answer and then implying that I was an idiot because I can't tell time on an analog clock), etc., and then yell at me for being quiet/not being more assertive. There was no winning. Things are much better now that I don't live with them, but I spent my entire adolescence walking on eggshells.

thesunscreen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:09:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do you want to play a game Joshua? Global thermo nuclear war.

half-idiot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have been in that exact same situation, my parents never had any malice towards me, but they are people from broken homes and I was their first child, the experiment child.

Thank you for that rant, because I could never put those feelings into words that could connect to another person and make them understand what I wanted to say.

Bananabuster15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:04 on September 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shout it at her then build an undefeatable argument and reasoning until she shuts down then whisper "this was my childhood" and walk away

sohaliatalitha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:21:30 on October 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

sorry to necro this. But.

"My parents were always good, I knew they loved me and I was always well provided for."

"This was usually the point where my mother would slap me. "

"I bet the neighbor kids next door don't behave as bad as you, what's wrong with you?!?"

"This was usually the point where my mother would slap me."

That's emotional and physical abuse. Those are not good parents. That is not love. Don't apologise for these asshats. You don't have to defend them.

UltimateDracoMeteor ยท 79 points ยท Posted at 03:57:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Does that count as emotional abuse? My mom is pretty nice aside from this, but she does that all the time and I'm afraid to speak out because she'll silence me.

HAHAHAHAHAHA5 ยท 81 points ยท Posted at 04:19:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I'm not sure. It likely depends on the context and how your mother does it. I don't know if your parents are emotionally abusive or not, hopefully they are not! Simply silencing children or not wanting to hear their opinions isn't necessarily abuse, but then again it may be.

 

My mother wouldn't stop mocking me and audibly "muttering" things under her breath about how I ruined or "wasted" her life or how something was my fault or how terrible something was, or slamming doors, or blatantly ignoring me for days until I cried (or gave in or agreed with her -- she always fed me well though, so at least that). She also invalidated my feelings. I was never allowed to feel anything negative, which obviously made it worse, which made her more mad... And she always had to have the last word. She also used to snoop around, read the things I wrote (and hid, but apparently not well) to relieve myself of the misery, and use them against me when it was convenient (thereby breaking my trust and destroying my desire to ever write anything or be honest about what was happening or how I was feeling, etc. -- took away my outlet)

She also constantly contradicted herself, as I mentioned, which was utterly confusing.

 

She's different now, but she denies ever doing or saying any of those things. I know this was a long-winded response to your question (and that many people have and unfortunately continue to face many of these issues re: their parents).

 

If you can, talk to a professional. If you're in school, counseling services are often available for free -- totally worth taking advantage of! Some therapists are dunderheads who give garbage advice, but some are absolute gems!

Anyway, hope it all works out for you!

*edit: a word & formatting

RogueGargoyle ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 06:26:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother was the same way. I finally got sick of her shit when I was 30 amd let her have it (over the phone). She denies everything, believes she's perfect, called me a liar and said I made it all up. I haven't spoken with her since. I'm getting better but many years of damage take many years to fix.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:41 on October 12, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
RogueGargoyle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:44 on October 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

/r/raisedbynarcissisticparanoidschizophrenicborderlinepersonality ;)

Jungian_Ecology ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 08:34:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If she doesn't even acknowledge it she's not changed at all. She just learned to hide it better.

nuiro ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:54:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Scary. You described my mother better than I could except for the part that she is better now. I wonder what that particular disfunction is called.

Subtitles4Animals ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 08:01:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly why I broke up with my gf. Mutterings, insincerity, selfish way of living and worst of all doesn't know the meaning of privacy and trust. She can instantly sweep a problem under the rug if it means not having to think of it.

M3nt0R ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:55:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a heroin problem. Blame it on my circumstances. Now I'm an alcoholic. Always was but still am.

UltimateDracoMeteor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:59:15 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, I don't know. It's hard to tell whether she is or not.

whatsausername90 ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 05:18:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What's described above is emotional abuse.

If you identified with that situation, then I'd lean towards saying that might be the case for your mom too. Although it would take a lot more details to have a better understanding of your situation.

My mom was like that too. Any disagreement, and I was an ungrateful, disrespectful brat, regardless of how polite I was. Even small differences in opinions on politics can send her into a tornado of anger. But agree with her and confirm her opinions? Suddenly I'm a genius and she's so proud to have me as her daughter. She also seemed nice in most other ways, and perfect to those outside the family. It was extremely confusing, because I assumed she was a better mother than most, that I must have done something bad to make her angry, and that all households regularly involved mothers screaming at their kids. None of which is true.

Once I dug deeper into trying to understand why she had acted that way with me, I realized she only thought of me as a trophy to prove that she was a "good mom". If I didn't do exactly what she wanted, she thought that was evidence of her being a "bad mom", and that absolutely couldn't be allowed. She didn't ever actually care about my feelings, even if there were occasions where she acted like she did.

So I can't really say if your mom is like this, but it is possible to have a "nice" mom that is emotionally abusive.

kamon123 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 06:07:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That sounds exactly like my father except with him you mix in alcoholism to the point of driving with kids in the car while drinking a double. Did she also shut down simple disagreements as soon as she realized she may be wrong? Like "I'm not having this argument right now" as soon as you got close to bringing up evidence or logic? Also did she blame any disagreements she started on you like you would make a statement and then she would disagree but then say you started the argument?

SadGhoster87 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:07:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Like "I'm not having this argument right now" as soon as you got close to bringing up evidence or logic? Also did she blame any disagreements she started on you like you would make a statement and then she would disagree but then say you started the argument?

Who are you and how do you know my mother

whatsausername90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:09:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Definitely.

kamon123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Had a feeling. My dad also mixed in a golden child bad child style of parenting, taught my brother and I the pecking order and how low we were beneath him and other things. Also never let us do anything ourselves especially if it looked like we were being successful so he could show everyone what a good parent he was by showing people what we did together which actually meant "look what I took over for my son and did for him instead of letting him do it himself" never allowed me to be successful on my own.

SadGhoster87 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:08:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Any disagreement, and I was an ungrateful, disrespectful brat, regardless of how polite I was.

I never realized how accurate this is

rahtin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:40:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everything isn't black and white. Parents need to keep authority over kids or they get completely out of control. We all had a friend that would tell their parents to shut up from a young age, and that usually happens if the parent is a little too lax with discipline and asserting their dominance. Some of them just take it too far out of frustration or stupidity. Abuse is more about torturing your kids as a release of your emotions or to feel better about yourself. Kids always assume that adults have their shit together, but confused, depressed teens have nothing on divorced middle aged men.

M3nt0R ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 08:53:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It doesn't, don't be shaken up so easily. My dad just told me he's glad his father never got the chance to meet me. Don't let your heart bleed and don't make yourself a victim. We all have problems, don't blame them on the world

Zerobeastly ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 05:22:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Went from being a confident, outspoken child to a teen who ended up agreeing with everything after YEARS of arguing and emotional abuse, because agreeing was the best way to make the awfulness stop

So thats what happened to me. Well shit. I'm sorry you had to go through this too. It's fucking horrible.

Deepcrater ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 05:40:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've never read a more perfect description of my family. Heaven forbid they're somehow wrong about something.

mnh5 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 05:04:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ugh. My mom would do this reflexively. It's how she grew up. She also wanted me to question authority, stand up for myself, and pursue my interests regardless of her opinion.

The end result is that she would tell me to do the second set of behaviors, I would listen, and then she'd be livid with me for days for talking back or not immediately complying.

TigerWing ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:15:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom did this when I came out as gay. Coming out was the moment I found my voice against her.

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:38:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow. You've described my upbringing to a T. At 27 I am only starting to stand up for myself and vocalise dissatisfaction or distress. I'm also now acutely aware of how quiet a talker I am and never realised it was a defensive move. They meant well but fracked me up real good.

IAmADudette ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:28:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christ this was my life with my.mother with heaps more abuse thrown in top of it.

The disrespect aspect of it hit deep. She had this huge thing of "respect is earned!" In regards to how she could get away with her treatment of me. But I had unquestionably respect her, and any deviation of that from her perspective ended with a nuclear like explosion that would end with me hurt in some form.

Christ, those feels.

I've been undoing all of this toxic bullshit over the last 11 years, and I can finally say I'm almost through it. I have my moments but they are nothing on what I was like a year, 3 or 6 ago.

I'm almost passing as a functional human :D

SadGhoster87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad once told me that some say respect is to be treated like a person. Others say respect is to be treated like an authority. And some say "I'll respect you when you respect me", meaning that only when you treat them like authority will they treat you like a person.

Of course he was a crock-of-shit hypocrite, but that's aside from the point.

perpetualwanderlust ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:26:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel this tooooo damn much. Sorry you've had to go through it too. <3

HAHAHAHAHAHA5 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:29:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

<3!

MythOfLight ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:31:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh my god. Fuck. Everything you wrote is exactly what I've gone through growing up and as an adult now. Shit. :(

GhostOfDawn1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:00:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Really sucks how parents can fuck us up for life :/

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:40:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:03:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ty

Turkooo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:32:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is this a legit reason to find a psychotherapist? Because all what you said is like reading my childhood

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:38:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I love your username!

faintedsquirtle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:13:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Too true. Especially when you correct them on something. "Don't talk back to me".

If I ever have kids I will gladly let them have their OWN opinions.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:26:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'll teach my kids how to be great debaters, even if it means them talking back to me.

I'd rather have an interesting, challenging teen than some mouse slave.

Christophe95 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:54:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Give this person a medal for truth

ratherbeahippy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:08:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's like you're reading a book of my life

MojaveMilkman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:27:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Because I said so!" is the often-used retort. But instead of teaching our kids to not question things (or authority) and being blindly obedient, why not just give them an answer and explain yourself? Being a parent doesn't make you perfect. It just gives you power over a smaller, undeveloped human being.

millicow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:36:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Luckily it didn't happen to me, but I used to have a best friend as a kid and I would stay the night at his house a lot. But his step-dad was a huge asshole and would go off on him for stupid things and tell him he needs to RESPECT (might have to do with how he spent a few years in prison and he never left the mindset of trying to be at the top with the most power and respect) . He would also contradict himself and whether the kid did one thing or didn't do it, it would be a reason to yell at him. Meanwhile his mom would even agree that he is an asshole, but somehow it took 1. My friend leaving and going to live with his less abusive (he's usually a nice guy but has a little bit of anger issues) father and stepmom, and 2. Then a few more months of breaking up and dating him again to finally leave him and move away.

I honestly don't understand why women have such a hard time leaving men that are such assholes. If I was her I would have zero tolerance for that kind of behavior.

SnoodDood ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:01:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents had a pretty good rule where if they made a rule, command, or judgment we could question it once. If they couldn't defend it (they almost always could lol) the rule disappeared.

Reality_Facade ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:08:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm about to be a father and I always swore I would never do that. When I grew up it was very common for everyone of authority to say "because I said so" to any kid when they ask why. What a way to stamp the curiosity out of a person.

Tower-Union ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:23:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

(and sometimes even agreeing wasn't enough, maybe because it was "too easy" and they didn't feel victorious or in control without arguing and throwing a few barbs first -- you have to agree with them after they force you to take their side)

Well that hit home...

TheAdventMaster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:35:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh my gosh, other people like me. I've had a lot of people ask why I don't talk to my family. Was I hit regularly?

No, but that's because I learned to keep my mouth shut.

Whenever I spoke up, someone would get upset and I'd pay the price.

gunbladerq ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:45:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy fuck, that describes my parents exactly!

KCVJ98A ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:58:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I spent 10 years in therapy for this and still have trouble today. (My mother was a Marine Sargeant.)

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:01:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Man, this really resonates with me. I was brought up this way too and remember my mom getting mad when I wasn't assertive out in public. How the hell is a kid supposed to know how to stand up for themselves when they get in trouble for being the slightest bit outspoken at home?

Ropeaddict ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:02:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ah, I see you were raised by my mum as well. Commiserations. Thank you however for your beautiful articulation.

Ridley-Knight ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:11:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This really hits close to home for me. Especially the part about being expected to stand up to others but never talk back. My dad doesn't ever take anything but obidience with no questions. For example, (my parents are divorced) he once told me and my brother he wanted us to spend a lot more time with him rather than over at our mom's. My brother voiced concern about how our mother, who is still single and misses us every time we're gone, would get lonely. We then got a long rant from my dad about how she wouldn't get lonely because she only wants to spend time with us to get money from him and doesn't really care about us. Then once, after spending a week with my dad spontaneously, my mom said she didn't want us to do that again just because that wasn't the agreed custody situation. When I told my dad she said that, he said to just tell her no, that I would be doing that more. He doesn't see the double standard and it's just getting worse all the time. If I had any kind of say I probably wouldn't be spending any time with my dad, but I don't get choices in things like that.

Series_of_Accidents ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:44:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

With my dad it was "You're right and I'm wrong. You're smart and I'm dumb." He never sought instant obedience, but if you asked his advice and didn't take it, it would piss him off. My family is expert with guilt.

I have such a profound sense of inner guilt that I took the blame for offenses that were not my own because I figured I probably deserved punishment for something.

SadGhoster87 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:57:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

those types of parents often equate anything other than immediate obedience, even if the messages they're sending are contradictory (i.e. trying to get a kid to do exactly as you say, exactly when you say it, to maintain some sort of upper hand or control, even if you said the opposite an hour prior), as disrespect.

This is my dad in his entirety.

garfnodie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:01:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't think I've ever read a more accurate description of me and my father's relationship.

i_am_soooo_screwed ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:02:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I want to upvote the shit out of your comment. The only part you left out is the "But I didn't tell you to always agree! YOU did that!"

CODDE117 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:03:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes! Oh you disagree with me? DISRESPECT! You want to do something I don't want you to do? DISRESPEFTFUL! It's awful.

Edward735 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:05:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Authoritarian parenting style and the expected outcomes for you. I teach a parenting class and the number of people who do not see the cause and effect is upsetting.

strongerwitheveryday ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:31:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother abused me, and this pretty much sums up the life lessons she taught me (besides reminding me almost daily that I am a worthless mistake) - complete obedience to her but somehow know how to stand up for myself to everyone else.

I'm still trying to figure out how to stand up for myself, and it's not going well.

Lamb-and-Lamia ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:24:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad used to get mad at me for "complaining too much". So I took his advice. No one like a bitch right? Apparently though, me complaining too much really meant I wasn't acting the way he wanted me to. So of he did not want me to he upset about something and I was, that's the same as complaining. So I remember when we moved. I didn't want to move. So I wasn't happy that we moved. He obviously did want to and was happy about it. To him it was an exciting new step. To me it was an unwelcomed change. I literally barely spoke about it. I didn't complain once. He said I was sulking. Which is interesting because what he really meant was I wasn't rejoicing.

Apparently complaining was a no go, but so was not rejoicing when he was. You cannot be upset around him when he's happy.

chance10113 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:07:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Straight there. Ex-marine turned mailman stepdad who to all outward appearances, was a good man, if anal about his lawn. To me? Constant yelling, constant threats to my health, actual threats to my health, and this. I was told to do many, many things, few of them making sense to me. If I asked why, I was shouted at. If I fucked up, I was shouted at. If I did it right the first time, that was borderline acceptable, and only occasionally still shouted at. Then, in any other situation, I had to think, and figure out what in the literal fuck (striking with sticks, not sex) I was supposed to do, often times with withheld information, intentionally misleading information, and lack of required materials. Of course I failed. It was because I "didn't think", and was "worthless". Add to the fact he and my mom were alcoholics, I was the only one raising my little brother (~8) years younger than me, plus no food.... Fun times. P.S. Fuck that man's lawn. He loved it more than anybody, and showed it.

hushpuppi3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:38:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad's favorite thing to do was to say he would do something or promise something, then completely pretend it didn't happen, no matter how sure I was that he had said he would do it.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:38:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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allltogethernow ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 06:07:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't see any problem with that. Kids always go through a phase where they ask questions in an annoying way. They learn how to be more effective eventually and stop doing it, generally. I try not to get annoyed because it took me years to re-learn how to ask questions as a kid once I stopped doing it out of fear that I would ask the wrong one.

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:37:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think the more effective approach is to tell her why people do certain things first, and then tell her to do it. So in the same example, I would often tell her why messes need to be picked up in a neutral tone. Then I'd ask her if she gets it. If she says yes, "Well, now can you go help pick up the mess? Don't make anymore messes in the future".

She's been receptive to this approach so far. But that assumes I have time to do it, so sometimes I still tell her to just do it.

allltogethernow ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:48:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sure, I like that. A lot of parents will avoid properly explaining simple concepts because they subconsciously don't really have the common sense themselves, claiming that kids are the ones that are too simple-minded to understand. I always love to hear about parents that treat their children with respect and spend the time teaching them properly.

Aerroon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The problem comes when she asks "why?" to something you can't explain well, or the reasoning behind your explanation ends up not being true.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:42:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've encountered that. I told her "I don't know".

Aerroon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:33:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, but I mean in a situation where you're trying to tell her to do something but can't give compelling reasons why that's a good idea.

allltogethernow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If I'm not aware enough of a good reason for doing something, I assume it's merely my habit and I avoid telling other people to do the same, even children. Eventually they need to learn that they are autonomous animals themselves and they have the right to choose their own way to do things, even if it means opposing their guardians.

Aerroon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:34:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, unless you're going off of unconfirmed information you'll almost always run into roadblocks down the line of "why?"s. For instance, my parents told me not to sit so close to the TV (I couldn't see, needed glasses, but they ignored that). They kept saying that to me for many years that sitting close to the TV ruins eyesight so you must not sit close to the TV.

Hell, my mother still says it to her grand kids, even though I've shown her many sources stating that it's not true. But this kind of reasoning would still work for a kid, but it's still wrong. It's easy for an adult to run into things like that too.

allltogethernow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:39:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is precisely the reason I don't give that sort of advice to a child. If I noticed a child obviously sitting very close to a monitor, I would ask them why.

NintenJoo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:13:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Two times and you've had it up to here?

You would probably kill my kid. He'll go for minutes if you let him.

jakeryan91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:30:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Moved back in with my folks and managed to find a job shortly after college. Got kicked out 1.5 years later because I "spoke with an attitude" which I escalated for the first time to really stand up for myself.

Luckily I was able to move into my college roommates house about 45 minutes away and the freedom tastes amazing.

Its hard for me to go back to visit. I work in the same city they live, but the bad memories tend to get my mind running to a place of anger and it gets me down. Still love the guy to death. Its hard.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:32:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

and sometimes even agreeing wasn't enough, maybe because it was "too easy"

This was my marriage. When I would agree (which usually also involved accepting blame of some kind) just to make everything stop, he would say "NO YOU CAN'T AGREE!!!" and then go on to tell me he knows I don't really agree, and we are going to keep talking about this until I really understand how wrong or incorrect I actually am.

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:/

spiritbx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:54:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you don't learn to question and argue properly, you will just end up fighting arguments with violence and insults.

People have WAY too much ego, they don't realize that you can be wrong and that a 4yo kid can be right. If you want your kid to be a bad person, just teach them that might makes right. If you want your kid to live in a world where the person that is more right is right, then learn to argue and lose.

The only instant " Because I say so." is a valid response is when the little shit keeps asking why for no reason. Other than that you should try to explain the situation to them and make them understand your point of view. Kids are smarter than people think, stop talking to your kid like he's a retard and talk to him like a fucking human being, and if they DON'T know something, FUCKING TEACH THEM IT'S YOUR FUCKING JOB AS A PARENT!

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:57:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This post hits me way, way, way too hard.

Minds_eye ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you truly disagree with any situation down to your core, then you can always leave said situation. Let's say your parents had been doing something worse to you, like deeper than emotional abuse. Let's say they were doing something sexual or even violent, that you just could not go along with. You would leave the situation. You would leave and never look back. So it becomes a battle of your values and how you value yourself. Is it crossing the line when your dad reaches out and intellectually backhands you by asserting his point? If done enough will it drive you to the brink, the same threshold you would have crossed had the action been something beyond reproach? Don't be a product of your environment, make your environment be a product of you...

Cassper8877 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:19:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like my cuntish mother. I wish murder was legal (I have problems)

oddpotatobandito ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:06:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Oh my dear god, this is my childhood. The childhood I am still living, because I can't move out yet. Although, as my dad has progressed more and more into a redneck tub of lard (and he has gotten in trouble with the authorities for hitting me and my mom in the past), I'm now easily able to sass him back with nothing more than a yell back.

Cat_Servant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:14:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow, this is me and my life, I'm so glad I didn't suffer alone, I wouldn't wish it on anyone!

Kojima_Ergo_Sum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:24:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you me?

OrangeredValkyrie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:55:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I used to have a problem with lying for the same reason. It was just so much easier to lie about something than to cause mom to throw a fit or get really anxious.

warpedchi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:23:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep, the "I'm always right" and "just listen and say yes" and the "don't talk back to me!" even if it was to ask a question... Went from being a confident, outspoken child to a teen who ended up agreeing with everything after YEARS of arguing and emotional abuse

Semi related but, this is why I couldn't stand Red from that 70s show and had to drop the show after the first season. he checked almost all the boxes in the list of things-super-abusive-parents-do. And the occasional expressed kindness did not in the slightest redeem that character.

God it was hard to watch.

gutza1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:13:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength!

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:21:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Seriously, whenever I see people in public being shitty to their kids (not even necessarily in an outright abusive way, it can also just be an oh-my-GOD-you-are-uptight-way), I find myself just FUMING with anger. Murderous rage. Like, these are your CHILDREN. They didn't ask to be put on this earth, YOU made that decision for them. They are COMPLETELY dependent on you for love and warmth and care and it falls to YOU to make sure they get it. You can't 100% make sure they grow up to be healthy, happy, functioning adults, but if you can't even bring yourself to at least not be the CAUSE of their misery you are a shitty, miserable excuse for a human being and you shouldn't even be trusted with a fucking goldfish. LEAST of all a human child.

spidmunk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:26:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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kenpachi212 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:10:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Get out of my life

Vyagravanshi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:44:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That happened with me too, until one day I snapped and I punched my father, I was eight but I was, or rather still am unhealthily strong. He slapped me in retaliation then I lost all my shit, brought my cricket bat and destroyed his right shin. After that dad went to the hospital for few weeks and never did much after that no forcing, no arguments nothing, he just went quiet and limp. He still is, I am just grateful he didn't kick me out of the house.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like they did a good job of preparing you to be successful in the world of grown ups.

azurest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:38:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i think that i was lucky and learned from the start not to agree with my parents when i didnt feel like it. this made me build a great trust between me and my parents. everything we just talk about it and argue as long as we want. i think being a strict parent always backfires in the form of kids starting to lie to their parents. i see this happening with alot of people unfortunately. parents are there to help you but it doesnt always seem like that

Classy22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:23 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This eerily fits my mother for when I was growing up. Especially the "even if you agree they'll still fight" bit.

Mornings were her worst moments, but it wouldn't take much to set her off and gods forbid I had facts to back up a point of view. Hypocrisy ran rampant, and the only thing that makes me laugh is that once I moved out I heard the "I'm sorry, I was so mean back then" excuses.

Not saying she hasn't tried to make up for shitty parenting now that I live with my husband, but I can't believe that mindset is here to stay. I know her warning signs, and the only reason I'm free of 90% of the fighting today is because she sees me a few times a month tops. I know a lot of folks will try to say this, but I wasn't even a bad kid. I didn't drink, didn't smoke or do drugs, I didn't really party, and given how I coasted on good grades I never broke laws/rules (well, was never caught).

Yet the anger that woman would dish out... Took a long time to develop proper informed opinions on things, and not believe them just because she said so.

icyangel2666 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:28:05 on October 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh I totally know how that is. My dad was always the yeller and made excuses for it like, "Your mom is depressed so she isn't disciplining you." When actually she just wasn't exclusively yelling at me for every odd and end that he disliked. He would always say, "My parents would yell at me just for not getting A's." "My parents were so much worse so I'm actually being nice." "Not many other parents would say this so nicely." Yeah, so that boils down to, he thought yelling was the norm every time a kid did something wrong. It got to the point where I developed a sort of attitude with him. Cause he would yell at me for ridiculous stuff, but then he'd baby talk to me like I was still a 5 year old. So I'd get grouchy and stuff at him, and that of course really pissed him off. And as I got older there was a really bad phase where we got into stupid arguments. Like one time he wanted me to show him his favorite level on a N64 game but I didn't want him to play it because I knew that if he did he would lose all the lives and crystals etc that I was saving up for weeks. And I tried explaining that to him but he just wouldn't take no for an answer. Went back and forth, he kept saying "I'm asking nicely." "I'm losing my patience." And I kept saying something to the effect of "no you'll mess it up." So of course he blows up, makes me sit on the chair in the living room. I didn't want to sit, I wanted to stand cause he scares the fuck out of me when he's pissed, gets more infuriated and louder. Yells and yells and yells saying stuff to the effect of 'I'm the boss and I have to do what he says.' And then says that if I don't cooperate that he'll throw my N64 out, so I said. "But then you can't play it either." And he goes, "I can play it if I want to." Just holy shit, he doesn't realize how dumb that is. And there was at least a handful of other times that he yelled at me for dumb stuff, to which I protested. I don't even remember why but after an argument he made me go into the bathroom to brush my teeth and he stood in the doorway to watch me, I tried to close the door but he pounded it open, twice because it was partly closing... it left a dent in the wall that's still there to this day. I was fucking 12. He would just keep yelling and yelling at me and when I tried to defend myself he'd yell over me and this would continue until I finally would just agree to get the argument over with. It didn't stop there. When I was 14, hit 9th grade, OMG that was the worst year of my life. EVERYONE was going on and on about how important it is now to do good because these (high school) years are the ones that really count now. That message given over and over again only made me dread school more and more and anxiety built up. I also had some other private problems going on but I won't spill that here. So I immediately started doing bad in school, missed a ton of days. Was getting F's which made my dad blow up. He'd yell at me maybe once a week, then it was every week, then it was a few times a week, about my grades. He was only making this worse by yelling at me, adding to the stress. Along with depression I was taking pills for ADHD (which I had for 6 years) they were starting to make me sick, physically, my stomach was like a fireball every morning. (It wasn't until this year actually that I found out those pills can have another possible side effect of amplifying anxiety.) So it was just one fucking problem after the other. The last straw for me was when we were driving home, he starts yelling at me, cause he had gone snooping through my stuff, I accidentally left a folder on the couch with a paper in it that said I want to move away and never talk to my parents again cause they're bad etc. I was actually going to throw that out but kept forgetting to. And the only reason why I left it on the couch is cause I was trying to decide whether or not if I needed to bring the folder and the bus was outside honking so I just left it. So he's blowing up on me, and threatens to take away privileges if I don't talk (I was so scared I didn't even want to answer). I get to crying. Before we get home he yells about how when we get home I'm to go straight to the living room and sit to have a serious talk (as if it wasn't already bad). Fast forward, we get home, before I enter the house, my dad tells me to turn off the garage lights with a smile on his face, that to me was just messed up. So I go do that and then decide I've had enough and just take off into the woods. It's night time, middle of February, knee deep snow, had no idea wtf I was going to do but all I knew was that I needed to get away. Was only gone for about an hour and decided to come back. He was pretty freaked out by it, drove around in his car looking for me. Long story short he barely yelled at me after that. But unfortunately I still feel like he's at least part of the reason why I still suffer after all these years even though he doesn't do it anymore. Whenever I see posts/viral memes etc about how "it's not a parents job to be liked, it's their job to discipline you" or something to that effect. I get upset by that, because in cases like mine the only thing he did when it came to yelling was scare me from liking him which caused me to not trust him. To this day I still have trust issues. He still asks me what I get in the mail even though it's none of his business, and he's been told at least a dozen times. Just, ugh! And also part of the reason why I have no interest in getting married, or having a bf is because my parents would argue so much and over stupid things, and actually a lot of couples do that. And I just have had enough of arguing, I don't need that in my life.

_NiceGuyEddy_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Aw man I feel so bad sometimes, I do this with my son, but it gets frustrating when I ask him to do something i.e. "put on your clothes" and I get a 'why?' back .... Its like dude, Just put on your clothes so we can go already. I love my son and Im conditioning him to be submissive and a pussy but shit dude, stop asking why and just do what yourr told already!!

kamon123 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:12:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's part of a child's learning process. he may be asking why to figure out if their is somewhere you are going or if people are coming over. also to help figure out what good reasons to put clothes on are as well as just normal human reaction to being told to do something without context. Wouldn't you ask why if someone just showed up and told you to do something without context as to why you have to do it?

mthiel ยท 1682 points ยท Posted at 02:53:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They taught me to never disagree with anything. In my household there was no such thing as "No" or "why"

Probably one of the worst things to teach a kid. Kids should be encouraged to question authority, or at least understand why a rule exists.

I am guessing your parents considered "No" or "Why" the same as "talking back". I am not encouraging "talking back", but I don't like the idea of kids blindly accepting whatever their parents tell them.

hotchrisbfries ยท 1378 points ยท Posted at 03:12:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

My parents would simply tell me that the decision is "open for discussion, but closed for debate"

edit for clarity:

discussion = reasoning

debating = questioning authority

Jacosion ยท 382 points ยท Posted at 06:13:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's actually what I wanted from my dad.

I'll do whatever you say. I'm not arguing. But can you please please just tell me why?

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BlazedDonut420 ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 07:22:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom's was simply "because", but if I ever used that, it didn't count. She had veto power.

vannyvic ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 08:02:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes OMG used to literally drive me insane...I was a very curious child and if I ever asked my Dad anything about what he said he would flip out and say "because I own you until you're 18" or "don't question your father" etc. when I honestly just wanted to know...Mom just used to punch holes in the wall and throw things occasionally (like every couple years not often haha).

I'm definitely a very guarded adult. I can't help but attribute some of that to that sort of upbringing. If anybody tries to argue with me about anything I give very short blunt answers even if I'm thinking a million other things because I secretly think nothing I say will be well received or considered

mynameischrisd ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 09:33:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mum once threw me into a door.

I completely went the other way though, I have little respect for authority, question everything and look for the corruption / injustice.

zerru575 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:39:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hit that nail on the head "I did my best!" I know but why does have to be argumentive? Nothinb i say feels relevant so i went to the internet early teens. And thats why im an introvert feeling like an extrovert. Best way I feel to raise a person is to teach them to see the reason, knowing the reason can bring insight.

you_got_fragged ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 13:41:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Literally insane eh? How'd you recover?

vannyvic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:13:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh I still have my moments ;)

asmodeuskraemer ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:13:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I FUCKING HATE THAT ANSWER!!!

Pandoras_Fox ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:27:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ahh, my parents' go-to was just "because we're the adults".

Once I turned 18, it was "because we're your parents".

Mandymandyman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:26:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And my goto to that was "But WHY do you say so?"

lazeny ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:28:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I heard this exact argument hours before. My friend who's a single mom, has been doing the laundry, cleaning the house and doing all the cooking all morning. Her pre teen daughter as well as her oldest son asked her "Why?" when she asked them to clean up after themselves and wash the dishes after lunch. Her answer was, "because I said so."

I don't think she needs to tell these kids the reason why they need to wash dishes. They're just shitty lazy kids who refuse to help in the house.

SadGhoster87 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:17:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Because I've done the laundry, cleaned the house, and cooked two meals"

chuntiyomoma ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:11:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Right. They're kids who might not be thinking about all the work she's done. Why not give them a quick explanation that she's done a lot and now they need to contribute. If they learn something, maybe they'll do it without being asked next time.

RichUncle_PennyBags ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:19:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sure they raised themselves to be that way too.

SadGhoster87 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:16:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well obviously! All positive developments are evidence of great parenting but all negative things are caused by bad influences and school and the media and probably Big Pharma too.

lazeny ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:56:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can't say how these kids are raised. At that age, they should already understand that they need to pick up after themselves. Does it really take much from a teenager to help out doing household chores?

mustafabot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:26:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know about you but at that age it wasn't a matter of not knowing I was supposed to do it, it was a matter of not wanting to do it. Figure out a way to motivate them or incentivize the process and they will do it.

lazeny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:18:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

From what I know about these kids, they lived with the grandparents while my friend works as a cleaning lady. She was supporting her parents financially as well. She took the kids and moved to the city when the grandfather died a couple years back.

I suggested to her what you said, giving an incentive or figure out a way to motivate her kids to help around the house. She told me that she has explained to her kids over and over that after a day at work she becomes so tired and had assigned chores to these kids, to help around the house. Like take turns in setting the table and washing the dishes. Making their own beds and feeding their dog. After work, she'd find the bedrooms in disarray, the dog not fed and dishes overflowing in the sink.

She'd find her kids playing on their smartphones or watching TV. When she asks either one them to help her set the table for dinner they ignore her. The daughter even told my friend household chores is not her responsibility. Last week, the boy got into a brutal fistfight and the authorities got involved. The girl steals money and jewelry. Friend told me the kids have no interest in school, have low grades, can barely do math and had a hard time reading. She's close to giving up.

I was watching her children talk back at their mom over a simple matter of doing the dishes. I look at them and think "for all the hardwork my friend does to make sure you never go hungry, have roof over your heads, new clothes and smartphones, doing the dishes is such a little thing. What a pair of shitty lazy kids."

Edit: There was a topic yesterday about how single moms/single parent negatively impacts the development of a child. I can clearly see it here. Kids need help and supervision. The father of these kids left and has his own family now. I can't help but feel sympathetic towards my friend because I see how hard she works. She has also worked for me and my brother's families for extra income. I suppose I'm expecting a little maturity and awareness from her kids, especially the 16yo boy.

oskiwiiwii ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:27:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Aww gee yeah it's really too bad she didn't give birth to less lazy kids, poor lady!

Give me a break, the kids might be lazy but it's not their fault man.

Cobbleking32486 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:00:17 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents used that a little. my goto was always "why did you say so?"

zomjay ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 12:35:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My son's three, so it's mostly lost on him when I give him a five minute explanation of why mommy and daddy want him to do/not do something. But anything that sticks is a win. I have a hard time doing anything without knowing why, so i figure I owe it to him to explain stuff when it otherwise might not make sense.

JeornyNippleton ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 13:05:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I try to let my son, 5, work out the why. If I say to do something, we will walk through the reasons to do it and the possibilities and consequences of not doing it. He is starting to reason on his own now and I hope this will help him make sound decisions in the future. We also use fines to reinforce lessons that are a little more abstract. So if I ever have to use a "because I said", I levy a 2 dollar fine for disobedience.

eyepatchOwl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:26:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Um. How does a two dollar fine affect your son? I didn't have any money at that age although i know people who had food allowances in grade school, but $2 is a lot of food.... (they had to buy meals at home too I think)

JeornyNippleton ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:13:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So, he gets paid for his "work". Going to school and not getting in trouble, doing his small chores. He gets performance bonuses for stuff like doing well at jiu jitsu or as positive reinforcement. He saves his birthday money and I offer to buy gift cards from him for cash. Every hundred dollars goes in his bank account. He's been the the bank once so far. He can use credit from dad if he wants a toy, but the interest rate isn't favorable and he learned that he could have saved and would have more money so he doesn't use credit anymore.

He spends his money on things he wants. I provide all his needs, but few wants. For example, if we go out to eat I provide the food but no lemonade, soda, or ice cream unless we're getting ice cream as a family. He can buy them if he wants, but he always forgets his money at home so a win for me. If he wants a toy, he buys it. He has his sights set on a gun now. I hunt a lot and he is going to start coming in a year or so. He wants a .22 to practice with because I told him that I would but his first deer rifle. He picked one out and is saving up to get it.

He is learning self control and money management even if he doesn't understand yet the cost of things. When he gets a fine, I make him pay me cash and we have a savings chart so he can see his progress go backwards. He gets very mad when he gets a fine and it seems like he is starting to learn to weigh the consequences of his behavior, but I don't expect a 5 year old to fully understand the concept yet so I keep his fines and just pay him out of that. Eventually, I will spend his fines on charity to demonstrate government funded programs. As he gets older, I'll increase the fines and spend them on myself or friviolous things to show corruption and mismanagement.

riptocs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:18:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow that's actually all pretty cool except the showing him corruption. I think he should be able to trust you as his father with the money.

JeornyNippleton ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:35:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not as seedy as it sounds. Just a lesson in the fact that life isn't fair and that he should know the boundaries of the rules and to view authority with a questioning attitude.

riptocs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:40:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I see. Is his fee cumulative? As in if he disrespects he gets a fee and if he keeps going he gets another? Does he have a safe way to carry his cash on him? How much is he "paid" for chores and jiu jitsu and such?

JeornyNippleton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Right now, the fees are pretty simple. If he is bad while grocery shopping, he pays upon arrival at the house. If he helps out away the groceries, part of the fee may be waived. Even if he racked up multiple 2 dollar fines during the day, I'd combine them like the courts do for sentencing fairness.

His pay is negotiated. Like today he picked up dog poop before I cut the grass. He asked for 5 dollars. Since his services were pretty simple, I offered 1. Then he wanted 4, then 5 again. We settled on 2 if he hoses out the poop bucket.

riptocs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:19:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Huh that works! How creative!

eyepatchOwl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:29:16 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just a word of warning: because you're involving finances in a family transaction, you risk family transactions becoming financial ones. For example, if you pay for him to sweep the floor, when you ask him to sweep the floor without pay, it will be a bad situation. Additionally, if you want to ask him to so something new without pay, like babysitting a younger one, then you have built an expectation of being paid. Whenever I would have difficulty feeling disrespected by my parents as a teenager, I would calculate free rent as my payment for putting up with them and whatever else I did for them.

Artemissister ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:31:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And don't reply "because I said so." Jesus.

SadGhoster87 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:14:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're an intelligent child who loves finding the reason behind everything that exists in the world, so it would be a great idea to never tell you a reason ever.

TreatmentForYourRash ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:54:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I want it the other way around. I want my dad to listen to me and my suggestions, instead of slapping me backhanded when I try to talk.

b00bear ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:11:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A 1000 times this. Drove me nuts that my mom would not give me a why. Give me a reason, I will comply but I just want to understand why.

SadGhoster87 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:19:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Give me a reason, I will comply but I just want to understand why.

I was thinking about writing a song about my parents when I get older and I may use this line.

b00bear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Feel free to use it!

TimeForTiffin ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:20:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Stealing this phrase to use with my kids.

spiritbx ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 06:55:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Great teach your kid to be closed minded and NEVER change their minds about ANYTHING regardless of good arguments or evidence.

I can't see how that will go wrong...

lyra256 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:28:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm gonna guess you don't have kids. If a parent uses this line, it's not all the time. (Hopefully.) It's for something like a rule, like "home before midnight." Or "One hour of gaming before you finish your homework."

Something you as a parent feel is an important rule and you don't want them to argue with you about it, but you do want them to logically understand why the rule is in place. Depending on the rule a reasoned discussion could shift a rule one way or another, but arguing with every rule out of principle is exhausting for parents and teachers.

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poopballs10 ยท 85 points ยท Posted at 06:13:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Age here makes the difference. There are plenty of things I questioned when I was 15 and was just basically told "because." I didn't do this when I was 4.

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poopballs10 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 06:35:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Age and maturity kind of go hand in hand. Some kids at a certain age are more mature than others, but a 15 year old will always be more mature than a 4 year old unless the 15 year old is actually retarded.

I feel like you should still be able to explain to the 15 year old why she can't date the punk, even if you ultimately disagree and refuse to let her have her way. Whereas a 4 year old blindly asking "why" every time she's told not to do something isn't always worth a response.

Horyfrock ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:12:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

unless the 15 year old is actually retarded

Oh, ooh boy Rick...

poopballs10 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:26:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Uh Morty, I'm not disparaging the mentally disabled. I'm stating the fact that if I had used this microscope it would have made me mentally retarded.

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:41:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I experiment in various approaches. Will report back when my daughter's 15 and I have to tell her not to date a punk.

RemindMe! August 21st, 2028

insert_deep_username ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:39:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wish your daughter a happy 3rd birthday!

Perfect_innuendo ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 08:26:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

15 years old should have the opportunity to discover their own truths and make their own choices. If you did not teach them before 15 to choose wisely, to have self respect and leave if someone turns out to be an asshole, you are too late. 9/10 teenagers will run even faster towards 'motorcycle boy' if you forbid them.

Making mistakes, getting hurt sometimes and learning from it belongs to being a teenager. It is their passage to adulthood.

(oh, a mom talking here)

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PR_HERO ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 08:46:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Totally disagree that that is the goal of parenting. IMO it should be to give your kid the life skills they need to make decisions for themselves and to provide an upbringing that is loving and secure.

Perfect_innuendo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:11:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Completely agree, thank you! Eventhough my parents weren't perfect, I always received exactly this! I myself always had nice friends and nice boyfriends (no 'dangerous' motorcycle punks haha) Did make mistakes though, ones that make me cringe even now ;) but those mistakes made me a wiser, more mature person.

The people I knew that made terrible choices were the ones that didn't have this. Eventhough their parents were squeezing their entire life experience into them, they lacked the feeling of self confidence to make wise decisions.

I don't say you shouldn't have your children learn from your life experience, but that is just not the basis of a happy and confident teenager that is apt to lifes challenges.

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PR_HERO ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:18:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you make all those decisions for her and try to "protect" her from bad things happening to her like that, you're both in for a real shock when she graduates high school and goes off to college, probably in another city or state and doesn't know how to exercise agency because she's always had dad around for that stuff.

hobblingcontractor ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:01:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's not how it works. You set patterns of behavior based off of acceptable or unacceptable that hopefully lay a decent foundation for later.

You can't just 'free range parent' and let the kid do whatever as a learning experience at certain ages.

Perfect_innuendo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:21:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow, you show a very set view of life. your daughter will maybe challenge you a lot when she is a teenager...

For example, what if she is a plilosopher in the heart, will you forbid her to major that because it doesn't earn her a living? What if she is happy with an easy job on the side and living her dream?

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:52:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If she wants to philosophize, fine. But it makes precisely zero sense to drop $150,000 over the course of 4 years to earn a degree in it. She can learn all about philosophy on her own.

Syene ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:14:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Indeed. That 'easy job on the side' is a lot easier if you don't have debt.

Perfect_innuendo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is an awful amount of money, wtf??? I knew about differences in tuition between countries but that much? In our country a 4 year tuition wouldn't even be 8000 dollars, most students will be in debt a little after university nut not too bad.

$150,000 is completely insane. Even with a well paid job the debt makes you sort of a slave for a long time. That sucks, sorry...

_swf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:42:35 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A philosophy degree is not $150,000. This man is an idiot. Public schools cost around 5 to 10 thousand per year in tuition, and that's before financial aid and scholarships. Granted, room and board is around another 10k, but you can live off-campus. The $150,000 degrees come from bullshit private schools.

I dual-majored in poli-sci and philosophy in a fairly prestigious public school (like top 20 in the US) and my tuition was only $7,500 annually, before financial aid and scholarships.

Nobody should be going to a private school for undergrad education, especially philosophy, since their degrees have little employment value.

Perfect_innuendo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:57 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks for clarifying!

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I graduated not too long ago with an engineering degree (I was a college flunkie, because whoa, I was young and made fucking stupid decisions).

I paid $16,000 a semester for Spring/Fall, $9000 for Summer. Assuming my daughter gets perfect grades and never has to repeat a course, that is $164,000 for a 4 year course (which she'd be able to do for a philosophy program).

Hence why philosophy makes absolutely no sense as a major. Not until college is free, but even then, there's still the nonsensically low ROI for the degree.

It's great to have interests, but please, FFS, take reality into account.

_swf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What's wrong with majoring in philosophy? You don't think people should follow their dreams and pursue their interests? I'd rather be jobless and happy than be stuck in a career that I hate and be driven into depression by it, all because I didn't make that leap of faith to follow my dreams.

I took on philosophy as my second major and paid for it myself. The debt is worth it. Philosophy isn't a joke. In my opinion it's the most important thing one can study, and if everyone in the world took a philosophy course I think we'd all be better off.

[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'd rather be jobless and happy than be stuck in a career that I hate and be driven into depression by it, all because I didn't make that leap of faith to follow my dreams.

Spoken like someone with no mouths to feed.

_swf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Having children is a choice you make entirely on your own, and someone in their 20's doesn't have any mouths to feed. Plus, if you really love something, you can always make money doing it as long as you try hard enough.

Your daughter isn't you, and when she grows up you won't be making decisions for her. You'll have to come to terms with that sooner or later.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:35:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What I'm trying to say here is this:

1) Philosophy as a major has near-zero commercial ROI. i.e., the money you drop on the degree is nearly worthless in the commercial world.

2) Because it has no commercial worth, no employer is going to look at your philosophy degree and think "YOU'RE HIRED!". You will have to be hired based on other merits (good luck, there aren't many for a 22 year old). Rare exceptions do apply, such as for a position teaching philosophy to others who will then repeat the cycle of unemployment.

3) Remember that money you invested into the degree? Now you have crippling student debt AND a degree that has no commercial value.

4) Now take 3), and add a wife and children to your life. You now have mouths to feed, i.e., a need for you to have marketable skills, good pay, etc. AND crippling student debt.

5) When 4) occurs, it isn't about you and your dreams anymore. Saying "follow your dreams" is all well and good if you have nobody that relies on you. If you have mouths to feed, don't fuck around. Otherwise, you're just a selfish prick.

Besides all of the above, yeah, I'm sure you can earn money with a philosophy degree. At Walmart.

_swf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:44:43 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm going into a field where 90% of the people have degrees in philosophy. I also do not plan on having a family as I am biologically incapable of it. There goes points 1-5.

Garglebutts ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:38:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Doing this fucked me up even though my parents weren't even really that abusive. I was always a curious and inquisitive person but I shut myself off from pretty much everyone after a certain age because nobody I looked up to took me seriously in the slightest and they treated me like I was too stupid or unimportant for their time. Or maybe it was that they thought that I had no right to question them, don't know which is worse. It took an exceptional person and a few years to actually make me feel like I mattered again.

If a kid is old enough to ask questions you answer them or you tell them why you can't answer them. Children aren't idiots unless you raise them that way.

And like another poster here said life is the most comfortable when you're unnoticed if taking a stand just gets you yelled at. Whenever I should take a stand I instinctively get small and try to remain unnoticed, because that's what growing up taught me. If you're too lazy to explain your rules and tasks and the reasoning behind them, don't have a child, because at that point you're raising a doormat.

And this isn't just me. In this thread alone there are a few examples and I also have two real life friends who still have problems with saying what they want or even knowing what they want because of lazy parenting like this.

rey_sirens22 ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 06:24:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The problem arises, however, when people carry this mindset into their child's adolescence or teenage years. My mom was a very "because I said so" type of parent and even when I would expressly say "mom I just want to understand why I'm in trouble" she wouldn't explain anything to me. She got into that habit because I was a very inquisitive kid, and yeah I know that hearing "why" every 2 minutes is annoying, but she carried that all the way into my late teens. Hell in almost 20 and she still does that shit. It makes me feel like asking questions is wrong and that if I don't understand something I should just deal with it. Now I know that's not the case and most people are willing to explain their thought process, but since I was raised this way it's really hard for me to realize that with pretty much everyone else I can just ask.

do_a_flip ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 06:16:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I guess most people who like this idea aren't necessarily parents, but grew up with bad parenting.

My parents were mean to us just because they had a bad day; You did all your chores, did your homework and everything? Yeah, you still can't go out to play with your friends, because I say so, and you have to learn to accept "no" as an answer. Yes, I know I said after you finish your homework you can go out and play, but I changed my mind, deal with it.

If they'd have to explain themselves, they couldn't have come up with one good reason why they did what they did. Shit, it would've made their life easier most of the time to let us do what they promised us, which usually involved no effort on their part.

I understand that parents are still people, but there is being reasonably frustrated with your kid even though its not responsible for what causes you stress and not having the time of day to explain them everything in detail, and then there is being wantonly mean and terrible.

And that's why I personally would've loved to have parents that would've taken the time to give me a good reason for why I can and can't do certain things instead of being assholes "just because" and leaving me with constant self doubt because nothing makes sense.

SpookyFrito ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 06:35:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My ex has a very overdeveloped sense of "fairness" because of such an upbringing. Fuck these types of parents.

do_a_flip ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:41:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hope you didn't have kids with them.

SpookyFrito ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:45:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, I'm staunchly childfree. I have two ridiculously spoiled kitties so no harm done to the future, unless spoiled kitties count.

do_a_flip ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:05:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eh, I give it a pass.

[deleted] ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 06:30:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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do_a_flip ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 06:39:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Haha, yeah it is definitely lying.

Let me put it this way; I'd rather serve under a reasonable and benevolent dictator than under a liar who dangles carrots in my face.

Preferably though, I'd have someone be in charge who is benevolent, honest and sometimes even lenient, and if I trust them, I likely won't feel the need to question them at all.

But when I do need to question something, it's nice to get a straight answer.

Zeikos ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:49:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Have you tried explaining the social contract, private property ownership, capitalism, laws, and the fact that she is living on my property to a 4 year old?

No but i would guess that after two and an half hours of 'whys' he/she would understand it better than the average adult.

At 4-5 I would have loved to be explained those kind of concepts.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:44:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The issue isn't explaining it. It is explaining it in a way that a 4 year old can comprehend. Their vocabulary is limited to the very basics, generally regarding solid tangible objects and concepts. The more abstract concepts don't exist in their mind yet. Hell, just a couple years back, the toddler would think hiding a cup behind another object meant that it disappeared from existence.

Zeikos ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:47:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sure , that's why I mentioned 2.5 hours of 'whys'.

Afterall abstraction is a skill , and as many skills it can start developping early if taught early.

I agree that for the average 4 years old I may be pushing it , but I see it as something explainable , with some effort, to the average 6 years old.

More than explaining it the true effort is to keep them engaged in the explanation , kids aren't known for their focus.

infinitewowbagger ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:47:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I used to do that with my little brother.

And people who ask about grapes when I'm working on my mates lemonade stall.

Sometimes confusing the little buggers is enough to get them to shut up.

Saturate their tiny minds.

Probably not the best idea parenting wise.

LiquidSilver ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:57:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why would you explain all that stuff? If you want them to clean their mess and they ask why, just tell them that mess is bad. Often they'll accept any reason you give, because they're not smart enough to see flaws yet. No need to tell the why all the way from "cogito, ergo sum".

Nesurame ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's when you adopt the most monotone boring business voice possible and explain economics to them. They'll get bored and fall asleep, and maybe they'll get classically conditioned to go to sleep when you adopt that specific voice.

It'd be hilarious if it stayed with them later in life too, "YOU NEVER LET ME..." "the basic principle of economics is that they want a good or service and you want their money" "crap why am I so tired"

FoxKieran ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:15:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's awesome

Arcaness ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 04:57:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know, it doesn't sound particularly great. It's not nice to go into a discussion in which the other party has already made up their mind and is set on not changing it no matter what. People should know how to compromise.

[deleted] ยท 93 points ยท Posted at 05:01:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, sometimes not when dealing with kids

"No, you can't flush all your clothes down the toilet" "No, you can't hit your sister in the head with a book" "No, you can't jump off the roof"

Debating and comprise are for reasonable people, and kids are fucking stupid sometimes.

RobertNAdams ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:02:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some genius kid was two steps away from inventing a cool new washing machine and it got nipped in the bud.

Thin-White-Duke ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 05:38:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Kids aren't always stupid. They are very creative and may bring up a new idea. Granted, it may not be intelligently put or have much, if any, reason behind, but there are times when kids have been known to say some pretty profound shit.

WickedWomanThrowaway ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 05:49:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah and feel free not to use the little saying then, but when you don't want your kids talking back and still want them to be able to question things, like the purpose of this thread, it seems handy

LiquidSilver ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:03:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't see how the discussion/debate distinction works here. Is there any risk that a kid would win that debate? Let them come up with a good reason to flush their clothes down the toilet. I'd be interested to hear it.

Erebdraug ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

kids are fucking stupid.

FTFY

[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:52:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

People give them far too little credit.

osteomiss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:15:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh that's a good one

InitiallyAnAsshole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's.. that doesn't make any sense. Isn't a discussion a kind of debate? Or did they mean, "oh sure you slaves can talk about how shitty slavery is, just don't try to convince us."

I genuinely don't get what that means.

hotchrisbfries ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:23:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I edited it to clarify...

Discussion = Reasoning

Debating = Questioning authority

InitiallyAnAsshole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:51:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'd say those are not proper definitions but if that what your parents meant by it then I get it.

MyloByron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:47:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Love this!!!

soofreshnsoclean ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:32:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah my parents did this with a lot of things. There were some things that, when we got in trouble, we could discuss; looking back though it was always things that they were right about and would have been impossible to discuss with a hysterical child. Most of the time they would at least heat my brother, sister and I out though.

soofreshnsoclean ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:32:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah my parents did this with a lot of things. There were some things that, when we got in trouble, we could discuss; looking back though it was always things that they were right about and would have been impossible to discuss with a hysterical child. Most of the time they would at least heat my brother, sister and I out though.

fakepicasso ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:09:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Questioning authority = God Complex

I don't know how in the hell they made a connection like that with me, but it has really fucked me over for a while. I start questioning everything I'm doing, and got a little paranoid. Accusations like can really get you in the right moment and the right time.

Detached09 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 05:29:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We were staying with family one night. I was to sleep in the living room on the couch, because I was older and male and the bedroom was filled with the girls and younger kids.

My uncle told me I needed to go to bed, and I said "I can't, you're in my bed!"

I was like seven, and he told me if I ever talked back to him like that again he'd beat my ass.

How is that fucking talking back? You told me to do something, I told you exactly why I couldn't do the thing you said! I need to sleep on the couch. I'm tall enough I take up the whole couch. You're sitting on the couch, talking with family, being loud drunk adults. Am I gonna lay over you? So that you can get pissed my legs or head are keeping you from getting up? I literally can't sleep, because you're sitting where I'm supposed to sleep.

It pissed me off then, and it still pisses me off today. Just because you're an adult doesn't mean you're allowed to be a cunt about it.

mthiel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:49:39 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm assuming your uncle assumed your bed was in the bedroom. Then again, who decided "your bed is on the couch, even though people will be around you while you are trying to sleep"?

Detached09 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:45:53 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My uncle was the one that made sleeping arrangements. He wanted me and my brother on the couches, his boys in their room, and all the girls together in the girls bedroom.

Edit: We weren't allowed in our male cousins room because it was bunk beds in what amounted to a pantry. There was literally no room.

[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 04:11:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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repeatsrs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:11:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here, it's probably the most infuriating thing someone could say to me. Sorry you had to deal with that too :/

ReKaYaKeR ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 03:33:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I got in trouble alot because I would ALWAYS ask why, even if I was doing what was asked anyway...sucked man.

ClearingFlags ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 04:20:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a parent I try to always explain the reason for something to my 5 year old. I want her to understand why standing on a flimsy plastic stool on an end table is a bad idea, so that she can use that as a knowledge base and not do a header on the linoleum just because I'm not around to tell her no.

lightsandcandy ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:53:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks for doing that, you're making a good human.

ClearingFlags ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 06:07:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Meh, I just want her to understand that there's a reason behind any rules or restrictions I put on her. So that she can make her own decisions in the future with sound judgement, and that she can trust me and come to me with any real questions or concerns she has without worrying about being trivialized or that I can't be confided in.

LyannaMormontsRBF ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:01:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Respect! I try to do the same with mine. I think sometimes other people mistake being calm and patient with being a pushover. You can choose to say "I know you don't want to brush your teeth, but you are going to bed and this is what we do to keep our teeth healthy" over "GET YOUR BUTT OVER HERE AND BRUSH YOUR TEETH OR ELSE YOU LITTLE SHIT" but that just means you're choosing to explain and enforce rather than simply enforce and threaten. I'd rather my kid at least know WHY mom is forcing him to brush his teeth with a legitimate explanation than just "You're annoying me for not listening to my commands".

ClearingFlags ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:28:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly. I do the same thing with tooth brushing.

I also like to think it conditions her to understand that on the rare instance when I do say no without an explanation, that either I can't explain why at the moment or that there's a reason even if I can't tell her what it is.

d0nu7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:57:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So many parents aren't actually parents. They are just people who have human pets. They don't treat their kids like human beings.

escalat0r ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:47:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is how parenting should be done! Sure, it takes a bit more time initially "Hey $child, please don't do that because of reasonX" vs. "SH@#t GET OFF OF THERE" but you won't have to say it as often, because your kid will understand the reason(s) behind it and you'll establish future trust, so that when they pick up new stuff they won't question your genuine advice/demand because they know that you're not doing it randomly but because you want to help them.

And soon enough you'll have raised a self relying person that won't be needed to monitor 24/7 and that you can trust enough to make their own decisions.

This is how good parenting is done and you seem like a good parent!

RimaBear ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:29:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm nearly 20, and I still never say no or ask why when confronting my parents (I still live at home)... I've pissed a lot of my friends/my boyfriend off multiple times because of it.

MysteriousGuardian17 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 04:42:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here, also 20. I live on my own 1300 miles away during the school year, but during the summer I come home and I fall back into the habit of not speaking up for myself or questioning. Mostly I'm afraid they'll stop paying for my school if I say the wrong thing.

Built-In ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:33:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like you're just keeping your head down at home to get through school. Valid plan. Hopefully it hasn't bled over into the rest of your life.

Once you're supporting yourself you can define the type of relationship you have with your parents.

RimaBear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:59:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad would probably be proud of me if I stuck up for myself, my mom, on the other hand, would disown my sorry ass.

escalat0r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:51:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thought about moving out or is that not a possibility for you?

It's always a scary idea at first but living on your own is a whole new thing and definitely imporved the relationship with my parents (which wasn't really bad but there's always been some tensions)

RimaBear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:41 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't really have the option right now, I'm in school and don't have a job.

Cressio ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:02:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah. If you can't explain a rule to your child (assuming they're, I don't know, 10 or older) it shouldn't be a rule. As someone who grew up with parents who wouldn't tolerate any questioning as to why they made the ridiculous rules they did, I will never put my kids through that. If I can't give a logical reason behind my rules and parenting than I've failed as a parent.

if_you_say_so ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Most children are under ten

Cressio ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:02:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Most people's children are any age

Amberleaf29 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:24:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't have parents like this growing up (my parents usually gave me a reason for why I couldn't do certain things... sometimes they didn't, but the vast majority of times I'd get one), but I know friends whose parents considered asking questions to be talking back. Personally, that doesn't make sense to me. How are you expecting your kid to grow into a responsible adult who can handle themselves if they're not even allowed to know why a rule exists?

shredtilldeth ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 04:46:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Because those people never should've ever been parents to begin with and they think that their children are supposed to be 100% obedient lest they irritate them further.

PartyPorpoise ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:29:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some people forget that they aren't just raising kids, they're raising future adults. So they don't always consider the long-term implications of what they're teaching their kids.

Amberleaf29 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:38:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's true. It makes sense that it would be something like that.

transandpans ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:45:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents taught me to think for myself. Now they're upset that I disagree with them. Apparently neither way really works.

Domri_Rade ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:04:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"because I told you so" is a phrase I heard many times in my household.

Mercury756 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:36:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Its such a hard line to walk too. Im struggling with getting my 7 yo to understand that I need him to listen to me or his mother first when we say to stop something or the like, and then ask questions after. We have no disillusionment that he should just aimlessly follow our directions for everything, but its kind of important for him not to walk into oncoming traffic just because hes a strong independent kid.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:11:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My girlfriends parents are like that... her dad doesn't believe in evolution...

kshrubb ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:25:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"No, you can't do <insert fun harmless thing here>."

"Why?"

"Because I said so!"

escalat0r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:54:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is so sad because it won't end at 20, not at 40 and not at 90.

This parenting raises people that don't question authority and just accept that things are one way and not another although there are no logical reasons for it.

Why is pot illegal although it's less harmful than alcohol?

Why do certain groups/people have more rights than others?

etc.

And their answer will be "Well, because it's illegal" or "Well, that's just how things are".

No, that's bullshit, it shouldn't be like that you fuckers, why do you just accept injustice or illogical laws?

kshrubb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:39 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Whatever you say, but videogames aren't illegal on a blazing hot summer day.

escalat0r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:32:50 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think you missed my point, I was agreeing with you. Or did I miss your sarcasm in return?

kshrubb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:15 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm dumb don't worry about it

eloquentnemesis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:24:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm fine up to about the 50th time in a day. At 51 Daddy doesn;t love you enough to answer that question anymore.

ErockSnips ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:26:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I never got the "the parents are always right, word is law, question nothing" approach, it may be proper and respectful but it does nothing but hurt in the future

Wallace_II ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:53:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I agree, to a point. At work, sometimes a boss will want something done, and unfortunately the only answer to "why" is because our client want it that way and they are paying us to do it. Other times the answer to why could be private. Some management would look at the question of why to be a challenge to their authority, and this could make the work place less comfortable. At work, I decide not to ask why, I just do it. I'd they want me to know they will tell me. If it's something illegal or immoral then of course that's a different story.

ssuperhanzz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:41:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Question what you believe in... just not this, or this, or this....

Jaw1580 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:47:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

While not on the same scale at all, I had a similar experience with a teacher back in elementary school. She told me to stop doing something, I don't remember what, and I asked "why?" She snapped back that I shouldn't talk back. I didn't further the question, but I remember thinking "I wasn't talking back, I'm fine to stop doing whatever it is that I was doing, I just wanted to know the reasoning".

Hauvegdieschisse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:26:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Because I said so" or "because I'm the parent" were daily phrases in my house.

book-reading-hippie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:09:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If I had a kid I'd really want to teach them "question EVERYTHING".

googahgee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:42:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This shit is why is despise having to live in my house. I feel stressed all the time, I always have chores thrown at me, then I get yelled at because I'm not doing homework, and when I do actually get motivated to do my homework (a big issue for me), they can always find something physically or mentally exhausting for me to do that makes me not want to do anything else for the rest of the day. Hell, I barely even play computer games any more because my computer is in a public room and I don't like to be in rooms with other people, especially not when I'm actually working on stuff, because I feel judged.

reapy54 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:08:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My oldest kid is 6 and i'm having trouble with this. I actually started out like most comments here with them, explaining why why why all the time. Turns out they are little and have no strong reasoning, you just need conformity. Even now they are only in a partially 'explain it' zone because they still don't rationally think things through.

I've gone into 'just do it because we said so' mode because explaining the same things over and over and over again are exhausting. Like don't leave your cups upside down on the couch when you are done, that kind of stuff.

At some point I have to go back to the WHY but I can easily see how the habit of wanting to do all this great stuff you thought a parent should do from the perspective of a child just falls flat.

As soon as you get into a parenting habit suddenly the kids are older and smarter and you have to readjust. Couple that with the control and free time you have lost over your life, increased tiredness, increased pressures (pay for everybody to live) and yeah, it is soooo easy to irrationally lose your shit. Granted some people know how to lose their shit in much less destructive ways than others.

littlewoolie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:47:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This. If you can't explain the purpose for a rule, it's invalid.

AAA1374 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:09:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, here's the thing- they don't need to question authority, but they can't be afraid to look at it inquisitively. It's one thing to ask why, and another to say, "Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me!"

I_MELT_STEEL_BEAMS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:30:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Probably one of the worst things to teach a kid. Kids should be encouraged to question authority, or at least understand why a rule exists.

The polar opposite is also very damaging. Those who question everything and can't accept any answer as a result are equally fucked up.

LeavingTreesForLife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:46:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"No" and "why" are two completely different things.

Jay_Highland ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep, my kids ask me why when I ask them to do something and I explain why the task is needed and what it will accomplish.

SadGhoster87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Probably one of the worst things to teach a kid. Kids should be encouraged to question authority, or at least understand why a rule exists.

Not according to my parents

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's a balance to this though. Sure understand why a rule exists, if there's a way to make it understandable for their age, but continuing to ask "why" after being given plenty of explanations is being a brat. Same with saying "no" without providing an explanation back to the parents. If They ask you to pick up your toys and you just say "no", of course they're going to consider it "talking back", but if you explain that you're still playing with it or whatever then it becomes more reasonable. Two way street.

tanstaafl90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Questioning authority isn't the goal, it's being able to think for yourself and be resilient. If you can think for yourself, then it's less rage against the machine and more knowing what parts of the machine need fixing.

networknewjack ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:25:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Questioning authority is how you get shot. Then all the boot licking fuck faces who never learned to ponder the legitimacy or necessity of their "authority figures" will post all over Reddit and Facebook how you deserved it.

[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 04:49:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think his parents are awesome for taking away the option to waste everybody's time trying to evade obeying their parents. Kids do what they're told, that's their role. I bet Hank_from_accounting is awesome!

Moonfflakes ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 03:26:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This was a big one in my house as well. Also, my parents responding to "why" with "because I said so".

malabella ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 04:12:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Were you raised in a religious family? I ask this because we were the same. We were not allowed to question anything my dad or mom said, because God ordained them as leaders of the household.

[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 08:34:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Damn, this makes me realise so much about my childhood and myself. My father was a pastor and treated my mother like shit because he was the man and god gave him authority over her and us children. I remember hiding in the attic or the bathroom when he was screaming and shouting at his wife and on occasion slapping her, when she didn't immediately comply with his orders or said anything at all before he calmed down. Most times I couldn't help but cry. I just wanted it to stop but I couldn't put myself in the line of fire. Anyway, he always sensed that I was crying so he came upstairs and talked reasonably with me about our feelings intimidated, slapped and punched me, till I stopped crying, which is of course the most effective method, when you want to fuck up your kid real bad. He was so furious at me for crying, that after hiding in a locked bathroom, he punched through the door, kind of "here comes Johnny" style.
During the divorce of my parents he said, that he was brought up similarly. His father shouted a lot to get it out of his system but could immediately return to being a loving father. He never apologised to me, though, or at least it never meant anything. I am quick to anger too and I'm really scared I'll end up just like him.
I still have trouble articulating what I really feel, when disagreeing with other people. I am always afraid of inconveniencing other people and say sorry constantly for little to no reason. I still can't cry, even if there is no one who could hear me but I get a single tear rather often when I'm in a bad place or think about stuff like this.

A_City_Built_On_Porn ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:36:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm glad you and your mother got away from him. Abuse is cyclical a lot of the time - the abuser was abused, and the abused becomes the abuser themselves.

Make no mistake: it's VERY good that you can recognize your flaws. I always say, when you know you have problems and you're worried on some level about how those problems can hurt you or others, you're in a much better position to control them. It's not automatic by any means - most people still have to learn how to control and deal with these urges, emotions, whatever, including myself - but having an understanding of how and why you react to certain things in a certain way is incredibly important to dealing with your issues in a healthy way.

Are you seeing a psychologist? I know a lot of people don't trust them, and some aren't good, but most are wonderful, helpful people in my experience.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:12:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm really afraid of ruining my own childs life. I don't want to pass my sick genes on but adoption might be difficult due to my sexuality and the laws in my country. Even then there would be a chance of me not being able to overcome my family tradition.*

My father is one of those persons, who don't trust doctors of any sorts. In my lower moments I have definitely thought about getting professional help. Currently I don't quite see the point of it. I am aware of the issues I have but am pretty much used to them. I wouldn't even know what to talk about to a therapist. I don't think my problems are pressing enough to require assistance. It is in fact as pretentious as it is helpful, but art is mostly sufficient for me to process my issues.

*I think a lot of the wrongdoings of parents in this thread can be traced back to the fact, that in our society in general we have too little assistance for parents. What do you expect to get, when you have completely clueless and untrained persons raising beings that are going to be just as complex and clueless as them? Such a big part of the worlds citizens and students are going to have kids one day. Why don't we teach them some basics like dos and don'ts?

xTheMadTurtle ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:47:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents are the same as well. My father told me the only thing that should come out of my mouth is yes, and that saying no, or well anything else was questioning his authority.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:35:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Relevant: "The One Weird Trait That Predicts Whether Youโ€™re a Trump Supporter"

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-2016-authoritarian-213533

In fact, Iโ€™ve found a single statistically significant variable predicts whether a voter supports Trumpโ€”and itโ€™s not race, income or education levels: Itโ€™s authoritarianism.

[...]

my poll asked a set of four simple survey questions that political scientists have employed since 1992 to measure inclination toward authoritarianism. These questions pertain to child-rearing: whether it is more important for the voter to have a child who is respectful or independent; obedient or self-reliant; well-behaved or considerate; and well-mannered or curious. Respondents who pick the first option in each of these questions are strongly authoritarian.

Hank_from_accounting ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:18:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not overly religious.

original_wammer ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:40:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm just about to be a dad and I plan on reinforcing a never stop asking questions and never stop learning mentality. We could get someone truly great for the world if we show our kids that they always strive to learn.

lightsandcandy ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:44:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Check this video out! It might help. http://youtu.be/Kmi6by5XLhg

cyrax99 ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 03:04:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I grew up with this kind of illogical parenting as well. I cannot stand parents who have the mentality that they are always right, since they are your parent. I remember many times where they were flat out wrong about something, which I pointed out (and they couldn't logically dispute) only to be told "I'm your mother/father and I am telling you to do it." So basically you're just accepting the fact you can't explain your actions and reasoning, but think because you gave birth to me, you're automatically right? It sure didn't make me respect them one bit.

half-idiot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:00:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

it is really ironic how the parents who make their kids give them "respect" through fear are the ones who recieve the least actual respect once the kid grows up.

KrivenRaven ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:26:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Why?"

"Because I said so!" or "I don't need to explain myself to you!"

sigh

unimaginablemonster ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:23:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ugh yes. My mother thought that if I asked why a rule was in place that I was talking back. Then when I tried to explain I wasn't talking back, just asking, she would get even more mad. It pisses me off just writing this.

MHillerich ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:52:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh man, this hits home. I struggle really bad with this. I'm such a yes man. I have a hard time arguing because I was taught to not argue and don't say no or question authority. I just kind of curl up when I get into confrontations because of it.

the_jak ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:24:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not only can you not disagree, having a differing opinion is bad, not allowed, and only valid "when you're paying the bills"

OnTheMattack ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:38:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here. We were never allowed to talk back in any way whatsoever. Didn't matter how polite or reasonable we were. I'm getting better expressing disagreements now, but I was a pushover for a long time because I would never argue with anyone.

DeviouSherbert ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:00:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hmm, well that explains a lot. I always used to get mad at my friends, too, that would ask "Why?" in class. Just made me panic.

C12901 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:34:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

My mother would throw level ten psycho trips if she was angry. No matter the topic she would get her way because of attrition and we just couldn't take the hell. Wonderful person every other time but there was scorched earth crazy. It was tough but once my sister and I were adults we all decided you go fucking crazy and treat me in such a way good fucking bye. We'd always come back after time because that's what happened, she'd go nuts and a day or two later all was OK and she got her way and ok. When we started saying no she'd treat my dad like absolute shit, hitting and screaming and throwing things blaming him for our saying bye, and he'd take it as he signed up for this relationship, and then he'd break down and beg us to come back for his sake. He was her emotional hostage. Happened like clockwork, twice a year or so. We eventually told him no and why. It's rewarding that behavior. The next time it got so bad after we said no. We explained if it wasn't so rural an area they lived in she'd be dragged out if the house by the police by her hair years ago. We said no. She got worse. She was drinking a bottle of wine a night, passing out, then waking up to throw things at him and hit him. He left. Filed divorce papers. Was ready to lose it all and was OK with it. That was a year ago. She apparently realized everyone was gone and straightened up. They're fine now, she begged him back and he told her nobody would ever treat him like that ever again. I advised against it but I did say, fuck it, I'm an adult and don't need this, I've been out of the house for over a decade, if it's still going on don't tell me, you're signed up for this, not my fucking problem, if I get treated badly tell her she's dead to me.

As far as I can tell it's like it never happened, they're the happy 55 year old couple with grown kids out of the house. I don't care if it's continuing. I told him if it happens again it'll get worse because she knows he will come back and he must run. I don't know if he can go through running away from it all again. I don't know if she's gotten help. I have no idea if it is continuing. And I don't care.

Ludalilly ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:15:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm currently struggling with this with my parents. "No" or "why" is talking back, and if i do ask why the reasoning is always "my house, my rules". The only thing I've learned from it is that when I have my own kids, I will always explain why certain rules are in place, and I will always admit when I realize certain rules may be wrong.

aaronxj ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:04:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have the opposite problem. My parents encouraged me to question everything. Every time I asked, "what are you doing?" I was encouraged to examin the sistuiation and asked, "what do you think I'm doing?". I was kind of a free-range kid; explore, question, wonder, experiment, etc.

There are several downsides to this. First, if you are a tired and frustrated parent and you want your kid to take a bath, it can turn into a debate you are in no mood to have. You can find yourself called to school a lot by teachers who find it difficult to get you to just sit down and do something because they said so. There are a lot of arbitrary rules in life that don't make a lot of sense and you could find your child is driven nearly insane by these things. Free-range kids like myself are almost worthless to most of corporate America (which is why I work for myself).

My life could have been a little more structured.

A_City_Built_On_Porn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:40:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's a fine balance, to be sure. I'd like to have kids some day, but I'm not looking forward to the whole "Oh my god what if doing this will fuck up my kids somehow" thing.

TrollManGoblin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:46:45 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sorry, but I think you made it up.

RomanCessna ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:50:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sets up for failure in life since everyone and their grandma will take advantage of you.

BenovanStanchiano ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:34:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes! I was fucked if I asked "why" even when an explanation was both necessary and easy to provide.

Faoneus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:54:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You would do well in Stalin's Russia.

frankivo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:02:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I need you to give me a raise

thepurplelightsaber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I highly recommend 'If You Had Controlling Parents' by Dan Neuharth. I'm 25, going through therapy, just starting to learn how to have my own opinions.

Hank_from_accounting ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks! I love reading and I'll def. try and get my hands on this book

forcebubble ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents are similar but only if they're absolutely right.

M4dBro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Were your parents fundamentalist Christians by any chance?

Hank_from_accounting ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No. Just strict. And African.

sesasees ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To date my dad and I clash very very harshly on that one.

"I am the head of this house and you will all do as I say" "Well you know where to stick it..."is what comes to mind. The response is more like "I'm a mature adult and can make decisions for myself (I'm 22) and I've been doing it this way for the last however long I have been doing it."

FF3LockeZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hmm. I wonder how parents actually manage this. I always disagreed with everything, and my parents tried to teach me to stop, but it never worked.

dezeiram ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom did this a little when I was a kid, but I think it was only the stress of having a little girl, two teenage/young adult sons, and a piece of shit husband. Once I hit around 10 or 11, she made a point of telling me that it was okay for me to question authority as long as i did it with respect. Since then there have been very few instances where I didn't feel like I could have a real conversation with my mother about something she wanted from me, needed me to do, or felt that I should avoid doing. Really the only thing we ever argue about anymore is her nasty cigarette habit. And she's getting better <3 I actually bought her a vape today with coffee flavored nicotine liquid. She did a poof and giggled "oh my god it really tastes like coffee!"

So now she's only going to smoke when she feels she can do it outside (it's hot and miserable here, so not often) and she's going to use the vape indoors.

Sorry I'm very excited about the prospect of my mom finally cutting the habit. Also I love my mom and I'm super thankful that she's lead me to be a pretty independent woman.

kidbeer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Two therapists in a therapy workshop had a lady who couldn't tell anybody "no". They made her go around the room, listen to the requests the participants improvised, and tell them all "no".

spartacle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is the exact opposite as I am with my kids now, I teach my boys to question everything until they understand why, or how. It sometimes gets a little annoying, TBH, but I'd rather have a barrage of questions now and make him an inquisitive little man.

Karieann- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lol my household total opposite

MadeSomewhereElse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:03:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"do as I say not as I do" got dropped in my house occasionally.

Felkyr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:10:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh yeah. This one is a big problem. They think it makes it easier on them to not have to put up with seeming defiance, but it can have long-term damage on the child's personality, such as appearing like a push-over who is too afraid to ever voice their opinion later in life.

Source: This happened to me + I read my Psyc' textbooks.

Jacosion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:10:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hated this when I started getting older.

"Hey dad I'm going to stay over at friends house tonight."

"No son I want you to stay here tonight."

"Why?"

"Because I said no."

"Yeah I get that but why no?"

"I don't have to give you a reason."

"So you are saying no because you can?"

"Son I said you can't go tonight. So drop it."

Fuck that shit. I just wanted to hear some semblance of cognitive thought rather than "I feel like being a dick right now."

I understand that with little kids you just want them to listen. You'd never get anything done if you had to answer every single "why?".

But a 16 year old? You can't just say "we are going out tonight" or "we have plans tomorrow."? Ridiculous.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mine was the same but they got better after I left at 18. (I was the oldest by a lot) It turns out that if you spend over 40 years raising children, your style will change given the time.

Leecannon_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:15:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's mindcontrol

s2514 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In my opinion why is one of, if not the most important question a kid can ask. Too many people get through life knowing what or how without knowing why.

Phantom_61 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same. The first time I remember telling my mother No I was scolded.

As a teen I told her no and ignored the scolding, felt so damn good.

Ditnoka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I love when my daughter asks me why. If it's something mandatory there's always a good because I said so in there, I could never imagine stifling her curiosity by not allowing her to question things. Also if it's on a specific subject (i.e. Why is the sky blue?) I get to look it up and we both learn something.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you did it was "attitude" or "I'm the parent."

My mom is very narcissistic so the moment we learned to talk back she would victimize herself. It was like a new evolution of emotional shit.

ethicalcitizen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:28:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Kim Jong Un approves.

Barlakopofai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:32:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad tried to beat it into me. And yet, just like my sister, the urge to talk shit is too great.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:35:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Was your household communist or something?

nukeyocouch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:40:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've heard in Japan they don't say no, they simply say that will be difficult if it can't be done

sprout92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:01:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is it really the opposite of my parents. "Why is the most important question you can ask" was common in my house hold.

Federico216 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:02:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In my older sisters high school graduation ceremony, her religious studies teacher reminded everyone to question things (opinions, beliefs, traditions..) they come across in the world.

My parents thought he was a sick man and that it was terrible advice... Took me a few years until I questioned my parents view on the matter.

TheGovi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:07:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why?

alexandergunther ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:09:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I never experienced anything as truly fucked as some of these other comments but holy shit is this true for my mother. If I asked why I need to do something, she'd just say, "Because I said so," if she was feeling nice. Convinced me that she knows everything and is always right. God forbid you disagree with her or else it was nonstop yelling for days. My girlfriend was pissed when I couldn't make my own decisions and always seemed scared of disapproval. She's really helped me gain some confidence in my own choices.

InitiallyAnAsshole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:15:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents taught me the exact opposite. If I had questions my dad would say, "well why do you think..?" Or "what do you think that means..?" Etc. I asked him about God one day (he's an atheist/anti-theist) and he explained it to me. I asked him if it was real and he said some people think it is and some people don't. You have to decide for yourself. Suffice to say teachers hayed me because I questioned everything. Mostly their decisions though..

8dayzaweek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:25:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This type of behavior causes me to say yes to overtime hours unpaid. Yes to abusive treatment. Yes to circumstances that I don't feel comfortable with. I learned that it is important to realize that it is not normal. Most importantly - not to mimic their behavior

PM_ME_UR_DOGGOS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:28:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In contrast, my parents encouraged "No" and "Why" to such a degree that it made it very difficult for me to cope with structured things like school. Before I went to Kindergarten I had basically never done anything I didn't want to. Suddenly people were telling me to go here, or do this, and when I asked why, they just stared at me like some sort of weirdo and repeated their instructions. I remember a friend told me he was grounded once in middle school and I had no idea what that meant. The concept of a parent 'punishing' you was alien to me.

SurrealSam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:30:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There was enough of this in my household that I think it impacted my ability to reason and question others. "Oh, that brake job is going to cost $5000", "Okay" - three weeks later, "hey, waitaminit..."

And then to top it off, I immediately get my hackles up when someone questions me about anything I say. As if I can't just reply with a simply explanation.

It's really frustrating to try and overcome. I wonder if my father's father was the same way to him.

theCrono ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:33:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The day I learned how to say "no", all hell broke loose.

Logan_Mac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:38:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is how mass murderers are born

Levelagon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:47:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

BECAUSE I SAID SO

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:55:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh my god. I can't imagine doing this all the time... especially with other people at school, work, etc... not sure if that rule carried over for you tho.

Hank_from_accounting ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:13:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No. Only in my house. I vowed to myself early on that I would ALWAYS have my opinion heard as much as possible outside of my own household.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh ok. Nice, good for you!

JohnnyVNCR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:28:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had similar, and also no explanations for punishment. I'd get my ass beat and have no idea what I did wrong. I didn't realize how messed up it was until I took a psychology course in college.

AtoZZZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:41:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why?

Thaiphlosion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:43:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why?

awhalesvagyna ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:50:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's something big I am teaching my daughter not to go by and to ask why as often as possible.

DlProgan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:52:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So they taught you to be a follower instead of do'er. Bet that was nice for both parts towards adulthood </sarcasm>. But seriously how did it work out?

Hank_from_accounting ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, it sure had an impact on my social life (being able to hang out with friends mostly. I just learned how to hang out with my friends and keep it a secret from them.) but it also taught me to value my opinions outside of my home (mostly school) and be able to speak up and say that I disagree with something someone has said.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:53:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being a kid is soooo hard

perdipp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:57:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

yeah now I have to rebel against myself most of the times to go against myself

Stlrpaoyj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:04:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here, typical leftist parents.

BritneeB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:22:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's really odd. My son is only 3 but I LOVE that he asks why. You should always ask why and if no one knows google that shit right then and there! Knowledge is power people.

LeiLeiVB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:22:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yup. Same here. I still have confidence issues with it as a 27 year old woman.

om39a ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:25:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty much the same here. Now I find myself in a position where I can't trust or love any one.

sylviad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:26:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, mine is to always say you're sorry, even if you're not sure why. Even now, outside of a long, long, string of abusive relationships, I still find myself apologizing for my behavior (just any behavior at all)- to the point where I now have bosses that get exasperated with it because there's not anything I should be apogizing for but I'm still scared. I'm sure it's frustrating but it's getting better.

sylviad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:28:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Goddamnit, I just reread this.

IONASPHERE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:39:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've never told this story, but I was the same as a kid. My stepdad was really abusive, but I was brought up thinking that everything he did was ok and that I wasn't abused. If I ever brought up depression or abuse I would get swore at, and he'd point to one of those child charity adverts and say 'You think you're abused? That's abuse you retard'.

Most of what he did to me was pyschological, but it would be physical abuse too. I was never called by my name, it was only ever 'fathead' or 'retard'. Aside from hitting me when I disagreed, his favourite punishment was to make me 'sit on the stairs'. I know this is a normal punishment for naughty kids, but I'd be told to sit there at 10am and still be sat there at 10pm. I was only allowed to come down for meals, and if I moved he'd hit me.

What made it worse was that he adored my little brother (his actual son), and went out of his way to teach my brother that he could treat me however he wished. My brother grew up to be a bully. When I would talk too much, he'd duct tape my mouth shut, or take off one of his socks and shove it in my mouth as a gag and duct tape that too.

Sometimes it was just little things, like being banned from getting up until noon, while he made my breakfast at 10. I would then be forced to eat the bowl of soggy cornflakes. One time when I lost the electrical key for the house, he picked me up and threw me against the wall. He broke the wall.

I told someone once, after my back had several bruises after he had beaten me for breaking a bowl. I told my school, which in turn caused a shitstorm that just made things worse. I got the stair treatment for 3 weeks solid, and my brother wasn't allowed to talk to me. I had to go to counselling with a guy, who then after being told that I was just an attention seeker with autism (I am on the spectrum, but that's beside the point) and was then told all the ways I was wrong and needed to improve to make my family's life less awful.

I realise I'm rambling on a bit, but I needed to get this off my chest. I've only started realising now that I'm older just how bad what he did to me was. I've left home now, and live with my real dad several hundred miles away. I'm 20 now, and got a decent job. But I still have nightmares about my stepdad, and have a twinge of fear whenever I hear doors open, cars pull up, that kind of thing.

TL/DR Stepfather was an abusive asshole. Left and are somewhat happy

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:02:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I lucked out and had an ex hippie flow child mom who told me to question every thing and never spread information unless I knew the inside and outs. It made me a cynical ass but at least I know some shit.

Heatherkakes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:26:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Im 25 and I am still suspicious of disagreeing with anything my parents say...

busterbluthOT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:28:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"because I said so" was a reason given to me often growing up.

CarolusX2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:37:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:49:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Strict discipline causes so many behaviour problems. Talking to yourself (not really a problem, some reason people that hear it care enough to get offended by it and think it is somehow weird), looking up to your big brother instead of your father because father doesnt seem safe and brother is second best choise, entertainment consumption to close off your home enviroment that causes anxiety making person easily music, television and video game addict.

On positive side, happiness bliss whenever you got out of home, you being very friendly to everyone even with people that dont want to be your friend that much, too much compassion, and not allowing anyone at all to be treated like shit by anyone.

Again on negative side, being bullied due to lack of social skills because you were taught to obey and not think. Thinking just has not developed properly so you say things before you think, feel discomfort and not understanding why others laugh at you, and later just learn to laugh with them still not quite understanding why.

ShintakiShrooms2002 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:51:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Damn, that's rough.

Kunxion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:52:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Put on a Scottish accent and say "how?" Instead

anatomized ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:55:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's weird. I was taught the opposite. Always question everything dude.

Althea23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:57:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Do as I say, not as I do."

imara-huru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:07:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents never said things like "don't talk back" or "because I said so" but to this day getting in arguments is terrifying and overwhelming for me because of how my father used to manipulate, change his story, raise his voice, and insult me. My mother never did much of anything about it, so I guess I learned that you just take whatever people dish out to you without defending yourself.

dvaughand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:22:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

'yours is not to question why; yours is just to do or die.'

A regular saying in my household.

up48 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:23:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Opposite here, everything was an argument.

Tervosify ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:31:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It was kind of the same with my dad, before.

I felt like this guy was just here to correct me, and to tell me what to do, instead of giving me the love I actually needed as his son.

The way your parents treat you during your childhood can have some pretty big reflections on how you're going to behave/think in the future.

BukM1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:37:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"i just want you to be a strong independent successful adult....so do absolutely everything i tell you, dont think for yourself and never enquire or question anything i ever say"

chairzaird ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:38:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think that this is pretty normal actually. My house is like that as well.

Wilreadit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:42:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can use 'yes, but' to say no.

GhetBent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:43:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm the exact opposite when it comes to being right. Growing up it was about who was right. I have had to work on it because my girlfriend told me i have to stop being such a know it all.

MLPorsche ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:45:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

same, it made me into a doormat

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:48:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My kid is the opposite in that she questions and disagrees with everything I tell her.

grubas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:50:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family is the exact opposite, sarcasm is our Olympic sport. Of course this also gets me into trouble.

lesserley ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:53:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes! This!

[deleted] ยท 7954 points ยท Posted at 00:27:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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orgasmicpoop ยท 917 points ยท Posted at 05:04:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom does this shit where after a family gathering she would rag on her sisters and brother to my dad in the car on our way back home. She would just belittle them for their cooking or hosting abilities, then would pat herself at the back for those fruit salads she brought and encourage us (her husband and kids) to praise her too. As I grew up I realized this shit doesn't fly, so I started to tune out whenever she is talking. The worst part is sometimes I would complain about my close friends to my other friends behind their back, thinking it's a common behaviour to do. Only realized that I have unconsciously been justifying it when my boyfriend pointed it out.

Rangikopi ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 13:22:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh my god, that sounds like my mother, and she always talks about how much she has done and indirectly shits on everyone else's efforts. I have noticed me doing a lesser version and am trying to change and adjust my attitude. Bloody tough when that is the way you've been raised. I talk to my sister and she says she has noticed the same of our mother.

Jushak ยท 79 points ยท Posted at 10:56:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The worst part is sometimes I would complain about my close friends to my other friends behind their back, thinking it's a common behaviour to do. Only realized that I have unconsciously been justifying it when my boyfriend pointed it out.

Eh, from what I've found it is somewhat common. No one is perfect after all. The people I complain the most about tend to be my closest friends, simply because I know them that much better. I'd say you could consider complaining to others to be a sort of "stress relieve" so you don't let the annoyance become a strain to your friendship. Complain to others about the minor (non-)issues, talk the big things through with them is how I see things.

[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 11:13:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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Jushak ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 11:57:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Indeed.

Worth nothing of course there's a big difference between stabbing your friend in the back and complaining though.

[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 12:14:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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crustalmighty ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 12:59:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Et tu, treyokay?

walstibs ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 12:56:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

However be careful because if you tell people's secrets to people you would never betray, they will assume you can't be trusted anyway

Pizza_Delivery_Dog ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:18:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I used to be a huge gossip in high school. I turned it down a lot now, but still do it sometimes. The key is to do it with the right person and never talk about people when there is a risk they will find out.

I'm sure my friends are annoyed with me sometimes and talk about me, but I'm okay with that.

Jushak ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:38:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I actually have a "rule" that I do not talk about things others have said unless they've said it "publicly" or it's obviously not a secret... Unless it is to clear some misunderstanding.

Most/all of the stuff I do say "behind the back" of my friends is stuff that shouldn't cause any drama even if they end up hearing them.

Pizza_Delivery_Dog ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:12:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm very bad at the guessing if something is or is not a secret.

Had two of my friends tell my who they had crushes on. I didn't know them for very long at that point and wasn't very close to them. So next time I see them there is also another friend present, who they are a lot closer with. So I assume that since I know it he must surely know it too.

Nope. Now they don't tell me secrets anymore

Agmisabeast ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:38:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You have a good boyfriend

Cuntasticbitch ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:36:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is my mother too. On top of it she acts like her "contributions" are some huge deal when 9 times out of 10 it was my hard work and effort she's taking credit for. Thankfully my family knows who really cooked or whatever.

For some reason my mom and my aunt are always in a huge competition with each other and bitch about each other behind the others back. Right now my moms gloating because she's going to "beat" my aunt at grandkids. I have no idea how they got this way considering my grandmother is an only child and my grandfather was estranged from his family. My mom tries to get us kids into her game but I'm not playing after watching her for decades, it's just one of the reasons she doesn't really like me.

drewshaver ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:06:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Studies have shown gossip can actually grow and build relationships. Kinda ducked up but that's why it's so common :|

TheDartron123 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:58:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This.

The fact that my mother does this is what makes me lose a lot of respect for her (Outside the fact that she is my mother).

triplefreshpandabear ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:00:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Our moms sound similar

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:09:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have the same mom.

Real_Adam_Sandler ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:43:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

O thought that was normal mom behaviour

um_no_way_du ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:09 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It is

Source: am a mom.

marypoppinacap ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:05:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This. My mom does this too. She's the oldest in her family so she thinks her age matters more than what she's actually contributing to the family gatherings.

GatorGladiator ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:12:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If she's pathetic enough that she has to pat HERSELF on the back and ENCOURAGE others to do so, over her FRUIT SALAD, then she has her own issues. Just yesterday me and my family went to a friend's barbecue. All we brought was a case of berry Capri-suns. I didn't even pretend to be proud of that.

cayoloco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:51:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Reality is actually the exact opposite of that, you always say everything is good/awesome, and that you had a great time. Say that all the time, and it will usually be true.

plop0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:39 on August 26, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

so I started to tune out whenever she is talking.

good. it's just noise

Meatpipe ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:13:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like textbook Narcissistic Personality Disorder. My mother was the same way. It affects my relationship with my wife via projective identification. I've been working through it with a mental health professional and have certainly been improving.

HopelesslyLibra ยท 2144 points ยท Posted at 02:34:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

don't worry, hugs we all hate you..

SailedBasilisk ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 04:13:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't care enough to hate him.

InfernoVulpix ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:02:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You cared enough to post, so surely you can eek out a little bit of hate? Like the rest of us?

My_Pen_is_out_of_Ink ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 05:17:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ugh. Fine.

Fuck that guy.

There. Happy? Dick.

Tyrann0saurus_Rex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:44:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not hating him. I'm making him invisible.

Metal_Charizard ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:12:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eke*

eyemadeanaccount ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:09:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is my outlook on life and how I stay in a laid back mood most of the time. I just don't give a shit.

eievuiii ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:14:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like something a Libra would say

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:28:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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THESpiderman2099 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:54:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm a Scorpio...

I'm more sensitive than I let on. I go biking on the weekends and enjoy long walks on the beach in the morning. I find comfort in calm places and enjoy to spend my free time doing calm activities.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:57:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Tyrann0saurus_Rex ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:46:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

SO? Alfred, go read a book, I feel like spending free time

ixora7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:02:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah fuck him.

beefhash ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:21:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If that's the price for hugs, sign me the fuck up.

flamedarkfire ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:32:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Probably more accurate to say we don't pay them any mind at all.

Simim ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:54:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The best part about that comment is that even if we did, there's no reason any of us should matter to OP

amazinglyanonymous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

HopelesslyLibra more like HopelesslyGemini damn...

Warholandy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:32:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Finally he knows

xysyx_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:02:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

just as much as we hate ourselves

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:19 on September 19, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wubwubwub

Judge_Cat ยท 1178 points ยท Posted at 02:45:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We share a similar social anxiety. I find that the best way to manage with that is to continue being you regardless of whatever shit is being said about you because in the end, words are words - not knives.

[deleted] ยท 202 points ยท Posted at 06:32:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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j03weaver ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:31:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm exactly the same like all my friends prefer each other I'm like the "least" friend

skynet2175 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:21 on August 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

:(

Dunavks ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 08:48:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Right in the feels, man.

Mr_Mandrill ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 10:27:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

People don't give a duck about anything. They don't care, they don't think about you. Once you realize that you can just be yourself. Also people are not that good at hiding their feelings, so if they don't like you you will notice.

[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 11:03:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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tiger8255 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 11:35:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know exactly how you feel dude, no matter how many times people try to reassure you that they actually do like you/care about you there's still that feeling that they just.. don't.

It fucking sucks :/

HelixLamont ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:30:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I learned that it's much better to just be who you are for the most part, and not try to get people to like you. You may not realize it, but you waste alot of mental energy worrying if people like you or not, and how to get them to. Don't even worry if people are faking it or not. As long as you are enjoying yourself nothing else matters.

Samdi ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:14:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But then if at some point you realise you're getting lonelier and lonelier, you sort of have to think about it. If you don't give a shit about having friends than I suppose you don't need to take a look at the situation.

Sometimes it's your own flaw, sometimes they were just shitty friends. It's hard to figure out when nobody clues you in.

SpiralToNowhere ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:36:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That mostly works until something happens - in every relationship, there will be little rough spots, misunderstandings, missteps. Usually people get over it by thinking, this is my best bud, he must've screwed up, no worries, or something similar. If you've always had the thought that this person doesn't like you, or is taking advantage of you, or is deceiving you, it becomes much more challenging to get over it and be forgiving.

LilyKnightMcClellan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:09:05 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I take xanax to deal with this very thing.

TamSanh ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:40:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What I think helps here is genuinely trying to care about other people. It takes practice and it's not easy at first, but if you don't, you'll end up as one of those paranoid shut-ins who believes in group stalking. If the whole world is shitty people, you can help change it by being one less, and I'll continue try to help, too.

SoGodDangTired ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:47:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It doesn't really help. Obviously I could be self-centered and be talking out of my ass, but I genuinely care for my friends and their loved ones. Like, a lot. They're on my mind a lot.

I just don't think it's mutual.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:45:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is absolute bullshit. Are brains are so huge from just trying to keep all the gossip and back stabbing straight so we can guess whom to trust and whose head to crush with a rock when no one is looking. Humans lie constantly and are very good at it.

zomjay ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:45:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Depending on where you live, this might be the case. In the southeastern united states, pretty much everyone you meet is just being polite. They don't give a shit about you. It's just not socially acceptable to make that known.

AwfulWaffleWalker ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:13:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep, live in the deep south. Everyone including myself is super polite and friendly which makes it almost impossible to figure out if they actually want to be friends or are just being nice because it's how we're raised.

timm1blr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:46:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I believe what they're saying is meaning to be true to yourself, because if people are speaking smack, then you can't really change that. But by being you, you're at least being true to yourself regardless of their bullshit.

sparklingradishes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:37:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This. Every day.

Genocide_Bingo ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 12:50:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Then you need to socially shred them. Find out what pisses them off and subtly do it until they can't take any more. When they explode make it out to be nothing so they look irrational. They will leave and thus you have planted the seed of distrust. Enjoy the victory and get on with life.

Kigarta ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 06:54:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will put me in therapy.

Luke-Antra ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:21:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think i might steal that one!

___tommy___ ยท 94 points ยท Posted at 03:04:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

People liking you is just nice, what matters is if you like yourself

holydude02 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 07:49:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wise words.

It's a hard lesson to learn and I'm just out of the starting blocks on this one, but more and more I get the feeling only you yourself can truly make yourself happy.

If people tag along on the ride that's cool, but if they don't that can't be a factor in defining you self worth.

merrybike ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 09:38:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Too bad this is an easy thing to say, but the hardest thing to do. I wish I could, really.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:50:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can do it.

physalisx ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:08:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What if I don't?

tiger8255 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:36:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Easier said than done. I wish I could just blow away that anxiety.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:04:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

my immediate response is to roll my eyes

SoGodDangTired ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:45:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We're social creatures. It's important to have friends we can trust.

And when you push everyone away because you can't trust that they're not using you and that they actually like you, well.

It's important that you like yourself, and I definitely do not. However, it isn't true that liking ourselves is all we need..

slalalalalaaf250 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 07:06:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Whenever someone does or says something nice. I always think they're just pitying me. I know it's not true, but a voice in the back of my head keeps telling me that.

SuckMyUFO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:04:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How often do you hear this voice?

slalalalalaaf250 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:38:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Usually when I feel down and someone tries to cheer me up and sometimes it tells me to murder people.

SuckMyUFO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:32:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 07:49:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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physalisx ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:10:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So can knives, and more permanently.

Please, don't bring words to a knife fight.

DoesNotCheckOut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So am I supposed to fight in silence then?

takingbacktokes ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:32:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes. So much yes. I had to ask a family member to stop telling me what another family member would say about me because it would destroy me. Once the words were "out of sight, out of mind" I was able to focus on being me rather than falling victim to bullshit.

WhiskyAtNoon ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:56:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Yeah fuck him, I'm gonna stab that /u/Judge_Cat guy tomorrow."

syntaxvorlon ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:59:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Words are just knives that can cut you directly inside your brain and you can never, ever get them out except by cutting out your own brain. With an actual knife.

Sleep tight.

CaptHorney ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:41:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I guess you don't live in Westeros, then?

ScumEater ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:01:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And those words usually come back to bite them in the ass. I've been vindicated a few times but just not engaging in the shit talk, and refusing to weigh in. Watch any fight video. If it's not women screaming, "Stop it! Stop it!" it's people egging on the fight. We're blood thirsty cowards, and can't be trusted.

g0atmeal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:44:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sticks and stones can break my bones but words are truly deadly.

Hallstein ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:57:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The way I see it, if it isn't so bad they need to say it to my face. I don't need to change it.

Sixclynder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:58:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow glad to know there are people like me !

hunterspencer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Words are like bullets

SingingInThePain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:32:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've tried your method before but I care too much about what other people say about me for that to work

AlmightyClay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:22:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good advice, but a lot easier said than done. For me anyway

nothingremarkable ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:49:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My personal solution to this is that I am sort of a dick and do not give a shit about what other think and say about me.

Wusuowhey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:17:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Words are like bullets. They pass right through me.

Alarid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:57:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I realized a long time ago that you can't stop people from talking behind your back, so just let them. As long as you present an honest version of yourself for the world to see, then you should have no problem with people talking behind you're back. Either they're talking about something you already know, or just spouting some opinion you don't need to give a shit about.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:14:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Words can do you harm. Not all harm is physical.

zomjay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:43:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I still assume everyone talks shit about everyone else behind their backs. Maybe not about everyone at all times, but everyone has said something about every other person they interact with on a regular basis at some point or another.

Acknowledging that this is a natural social coping mechanism rather than a personal affront is probably the best way to deal with it. When someone talks about you, it's kind of about you, but it's mostly about the people talking finding common ground, bonding, and venting. Nobody on earth is above this. If someone gets legitimately offended that someone else was taking behind their back (gasp!), they're an egomaniac who thinks they're beyond reproach. This is the kind of person who is most likely to be mercilessly ridiculed when they aren't around.

djmeoww ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:24:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah words hurt forever.

LGBTreecko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:43:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Over the summer I realized that my whole class probably talked about me behind my back. I had several conversations, probably about half the class in total, in which I learned things that I will keep secret, unlike the people who told me.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait... that's social anxiety? Well shit, I guess there's something wrong with me after all

plop0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:20 on August 26, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ie: cognitive behavioural therapy

PM_ME_UR_DOGGOS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:43:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I find that the best way to manage with that is to continue being you regardless of whatever shit is being said about you because in the end, words are words - not knives.

This is seriously bad and extremely narcissistic advice.

jostheller ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Until those words are "justice for harambe 2016" that's knives in my heart man he didn't deserve it.

allseed ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:52:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

dicks out for harambe

[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 05:08:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:59:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Huh. I guess, I guess of late, you and me are a bit in the same boat. I actually just quit my job due to backstabbers. My (ex) friend circle at work seemed to like me all well and good; lead me on for months in fact. One of the guys was especially nice, always assuring me whenever I would ask, that yes I was fine and yes everyone was okay with me. He had me out to his place a few times - even offered to sell me his BMW E28 super cheap when he was cleaning out his garage for a new car.

Turns out that after I took a leave of absence to go back to school, this guy probably hated me more thoroughly than anyone else. He wouldn't answer my calls or texts even when it was stuff as cool as rescuing my Grandma's old '67 Pontiac. And everyone else in my "friends" circle stopped responding to me about the same time. I don't know if its because I am a student and most of them were full time or if they though I was awkward and self-hating or what (none of that have contacted or responded since I left) but I am back at school now among real friends who picked me up and carried me through the month of depression that followed all of this.

Yeah looking back, there were red flags all over the place but I wanted so badly for things to work out. And when you look at the world through rose-colored glasses, the red flags just look like anything else. Don't let it get you down too much though, because the end of the day will come. The misery comes but it also goes.

PyroDesu ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:30:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Yeah looking back, there were red flags all over the place

Please, for the love of us all, what were they? Because I'm in kinda the same boat as a lot of people posting seem to be (my psychologist figures I have a fairly severe case of Social Anxiety Disorder) and I very seriously cannot tell if someone's just putting up with me or is actually interested in being my friend.

About the one thing I've learned is that this:

whenever I would ask, that yes I was fine and yes everyone was okay with me.

Isn't helpful. One guy actually said that me asking made him think I was more odd than the conversation that I thought would make him think I was odd.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:18:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

At work, the red flags for my circle of "friends" should have been:

  1. Abrupt changing of typical lunch and break hours. I would usually take lunch with them around noon to 12:15. Suddenly they all started taking lunch at 11:30. Usually morning break was around 9:15 - suddenly started bouncing between 10:00 and 8:30.

  2. Shifting topics of conversation away from anything I brought up. And its not like I brought up weird stuff mind you.

  3. Playing the old bait and switch. The guy I mentioned, on multiple occasions would suggest we do something over the weekend but whenever I suggested something even in the moment, he would mysteriously have plans.

  4. Just generally not a good fit. I am a simple man with simple tastes (I like pretty dark haired women and breakfast food just to complete the Parks and Rec reference). I don't have an intimate knowledge of fashion, clothing brands, liquors, wines, sports teams, movies, TV, and a pretentious view of the world that puts me above everyone. I wear comfortable collared shirts and kacky pants to work; I wear t-shirts, polos, and canvas shorts in leisure; I enjoy beers and whiskys but assume no brand loyalty; I watch TV and movies yes but not prolifically; and I, unlike some people (hint hint), happily drive a PoS car I call Ribbit (acronym for the Rust Bucket in Training), don't complain about every minute inconvenience anywhere, I respect waiters and servers, and always put on an A-face when dealing strangers.

EDIT: The reason I said these were cases of viewing the world through rose-colored glasses is because its easy to rationalize all of these things as something else. 1 - Work gets busy. Also its summer; maybe they started show up earlier and who wants to waste the afternoon? Well its also summer so the light lasts til 10:00. Thirty minutes is nothing. 2 - Maybe I just didn't introduce it right. Or maybe more likely they just don't care and don't like you. 3 - I forget pre-laid plans too. Sometimes I get a call from somebody and just have to take them up on a night out in spite of other things in the works. Yeah but literally like four times in a row? Nope. 4 - You don't have to have all the same interests and etiquette. Yeah but when your interests and etiquette are that dissimilar... wowzers!

Just to clarify, I wouldn't randomly ask if everyone was okay with me. Usually something would need to trigger it. Like one time, I was in a meeting and saw that one dude stroll up to one of the ladys' desks. They talked for a few seconds, immediately looked over at me through the glass and started laughing. I felt mortified and asked about later that day to which the response I received was something like "Don't worry dude it was nothing. Sorry if we made you feel shitty - wasn't the intent. We should get lunch sometime."

wickedbadnaughtyZoot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:06:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You'll find other friends. You know not to talk bad about others to anyone but your priest/therapist/anonymously online, and you'll eventually get some perspective on your ex-friend and realize it's probably not really anything to do with you. You'll recover. :)

ToThyneOwnSelfBeTrue ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:52:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have no idea either. I don't have any friends so I guess the people I know probably do talk shit about me. It's nice to be thought of.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:31:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
kigid ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:17:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

See, my parents are super honest and raised me that way. But I still feel like everyone's laughing at me. I know there not, but I can never accept that someone actually likes me as a person.

rvyas619 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:28:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i sooo feel this. sometimes i wonder to myself if people genuinely like me, or if im even a likeable person. a little more than usual lately

zackeaterofsouls ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:36:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Turns out this is still true after becoming an adult. I thought it was just my family but nope, working has shown me that everyone talks behind each other's backs

EmmaBourbon ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:05:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you do good things and are a nice person then people will like you. Even if you do bad things and tell no one, people will still like you. There are serial killers who are very well liked, chances are no one hates you.

Usually when people dislike someone they tend not to be around them for long periods of time. Dont take this personally as not everyone will like everyone.

I know it's hard for you, but try to remember that people who are genuinely your friends, aren't talking shit behind your back. If they are, that's okay too. It's okay to vent about your friends. Sometimes you WILL be annoying, sometimes you WILL do something weird but at the end of the day, its just a tiny fragment of human interaction is this huge universe and you are a good person.

LHOOQatme ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:27:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother taught me to be socially anxious and to be wary of EVERYBODY BUT HER (lol). The latter I overcame myself with the unwilling help of two amazing friends; the former is being worked with my psychologist. Life sucks

MidgetMonkeyMan ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:34:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No matter how good of friends 2 people are, each person will have quirks that annoy the other person. It happens with any relationship between 2 people. Good friends will overlook those quirks and hang out with you because they enjoy spending time with you, even if they complain about it to someone later. A true friend will help you when you need help. That's the most important quality to look for in a person in my opinion.

zerpderp ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:45:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Who did this, mom or dad? If it was your mom, do you have any advice to someone in the same situation?

Edit: I find myself doing the same thing because of my mom, but I feel like using that excuse is a cop out because I'm almost 26. How do I break the cycle?

Kareus ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:57:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

yeh, i have this problem too.

Like every time someone says something nice, I'm like... THERE IS AN ALTERIOR MOTIVE, DONT ACCEPT THE COMPLIMENT

Palindromer101 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:16:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've had friends who have this issue, so I make a point of reaching out to them unprovoked and consistently telling them I love them and I'm proud of them. I think it helps.

Hichann ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:25:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just do what I do and talk shit to their face and say nor things behind their back.

Jmac3213 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:09:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel you there. I didn't realize how much I still think about it until I was asked what my superiors though of me and my response was "I can't put my finger on it."

Ih8Hondas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:38:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here.

NessieReddit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:40:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This....

thebrassnuckles ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:13:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you sure about this? My experience is people are fucking assholes.

evdog_music ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:53:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What kind of circles are you in? Maybe you just hang around in really toxic social environments. There are many altruistic people in this world, but maybe you just don't know any of them personally.

thebrassnuckles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:12:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

None now. I mostly learned this through my time in the Air force. Bunch of buddy fuckers in that shit. No I legitimately only talk to 5 people. 3 of which live within 100 miles of me. I only regularly text 2 of them frequently.

geared4war ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's cool.
You are great!

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:14:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You have to do something pretty bad for me to talk shit behind your back.

Pimping_NZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You see my parents never taught me this, it kind of just developed during middle school

tiger8255 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:39:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same. Apparently my family has a history of anxiety and depression. ยฏ\_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

mainoumi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:42:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Somehow, you can feel lucky. It's not before my 16 that I understand that I can go for a walk without being murdered, poisoned, kidnapped and offered drugs in candies, all in one. And even after that when I decided to go to a friend's home or, worse, a party, my mom was all "don't accept anything even from people you know, and don't let people you don't know approach you, not even his parents". Way later (I was 25 or something like that) I learned that I was kidnapped by my own father's family when I was 1 year old. It toke here six month for to take me back (and obviously divorce) and probably is the reason of all this...

Csantana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

this bugs the shit out of me.

I know you don't fully like our cousin's new husband mom but we've all got flaws and he's family now god damn it !

stoway75 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have that same anxiety and to my knowledge I never even encountered any friends who talked about others behind their backs. It's tough to deal with.

Shabacka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had the same fears form in middle school, mostly because almost everyone in middle school was talking about me behind my back. I was a super weird kid without meaning to be, and middle school kids are mean.

That kind of stuff just doesn't seem to leave, or if it does, it hasn't for me yet. I try to live in the moment, to not think about the past or future too much, at least in relation to social relationships. It sucks, but it does get better with time.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:03:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I assume people saying negative things behind my back for literally anything I am or do is the default, and thus I don't have to worry about whether it's true.

Shnook82 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm never sure if people actually like me...

If it's the uncertainty that bothers you, just be an arsehole and you'll never have to wonder about it.

Kadath12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:16:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We are so alike

saudade_in_porto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They all talk shit about you, m8, or most of them. People talk. Men and women alike gossip. It's the nature of the beast and cannot be prevented. Some are more wicked than others. Stick with the ones who just joke about the way you laugh behind your back, not the ones who are treacherous to your success.

Apryl_Lillie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:33:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It a simmular thing that come from a diffrent soure.

I have a speach impairment, so when i talk to people, they normally have this face or action to show that they understand what im saying but i never quite know if they understood me fully or not...

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:41:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They talk shit about other people to me so it must be true

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:45:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is a really tough one for me to get over. Most of the people in the community I grew up in were two faced. Super friendly and gossipy, and they pity anyone that doesn't share their beliefs.

burret123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:01:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The best you can do is to show everyone the real you, to show them what there is to like! Stay positive.

And if you really know someone is talking shit behind your back about you โ€” remind yourself that they just don't matter

jankyasscanadian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:02:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom engrained this in me from a young age. I'm 19 years old and she still tries to do it. I twitch a little bit every time out of annoyance at this point because I know it's BS.

MusicalDingus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:02:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is crazy to me because i've never thought to talk about people behind their back or what they might say behind my back :/

roxieh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:03:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is a normal fear, and the way I deal with it in everyday life / people I don't know well is that even if they do talk about me, 1) I probably won't know about it so why worry if they're not actually upsetting me 2) that would make them assholes, and people whose opinion I don't really value anyway. It becomes a little harder to tackle if you worry your actual friends would do this but all I can say is try to trust your instincts that you've made good friends and try to trust your friends. Unless you've seen evidence they behave like that about other people (ie, bitch about other friends to you) then they're probably not those kinds of people. And if they have? Once again, assholes whose opinions you shouldn't value and spend time finding new friends.

Spacegod87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a girl having two older sisters, they always ALWAYS told me that, "Every girl is gonna hate you so be a bitch to them first." Yeah, I figured out this was bullshit pretty early on when I made an effort to be nice to a girl that my sisters and their friends hated because she was supposedly a huge bitch, and lo and behold, she was nice because I was nice to her.

InitiallyAnAsshole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:35:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have the opposite actually. I'm not even joking. People kind of think I'm an asshole I'm a funny way. Like I'll take a joke too far but somehow when I laugh at my own jokes it makes other people laugh? Anyways I always assume people like me but I've heard a bunch of people say they didn't like me at first but that I grew on them when they realized nothing I ever say is me being serious. I'm just kind of a sad guy and that's how I deal with it. By being aggressively outwardly happy.

slash196 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:37:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can usually tell who those people are by the amount of shit they talk about other people to you.

AngelicBastard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:40:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And vise versa

SteperOfTheLongEarth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm just worried that they will never notice me and won't remember me at all.

jamspongeandcustard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:03:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I came here to say something similar. I spent most of my childhood with my Dad saying things like "I'm only telling you what your friends are saying behind your back ". I've spent most of my adult life trying to increase my self worth but no matter how hard I try it doesn't take long to spiral back to "they don't really like you they are just being nice to your face" It's a long hard road it's kinda nice to know that some people are walking it with me although I really wish we didn't have to.

ScrabCrab ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:03:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom is so sure literally everyone hates her, and me. In middle school she was telling me that she's the only friend I need because people are evil.

bpwoods97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:04:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is me. I was bullied in my early years and all my friends up until the last year and a half or two always left me for a girl instead. Always seems to me like nobody likes me or is only using me for rides since in my current friends group I'm one of the few with a car.

TheGuyWhoLikesPizza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:06:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I sometimes think they same. Al thought I've read somewhere that people in general do not justify how you are and how you look like. So every time I am not sure I just think they don't even think about it.

littleboylost78 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:10:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

F*ck 'em.

Keykatriz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:24:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have this problem badly, I assume everyone actually hates me and only talks to me because they have to.

The worst part is this makes me really shy which comes off as being standoffish. So people think that I don't like them, when my actual problem is I think they don't like me.

missamanda74 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:26:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh my mother was (and probably still is, I refuse to speak to her) shocking for shit talking!! Because of this, I, like you, never know if anyone actually likes me.

Swanh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:38:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A lot of people do tho, myself included.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:39:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't worry /u/fightingdragonswith2, I like you! :D

DontLemmeLeaveMurph ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:42:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You have no idea how good it feels to know that I'm not the only one that thinks this way. Thank you.

CHECK_MY_SUBMISSIONS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:00:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have known people like this. Two girls. They always talked shit behind people's backs. One a random day one of the girls suddenly became mad at me with seemingly no reason for it, and flinging a bunch of insults at me. I blocked her on social media and never bothered to respond and put up with that shit. I had finally realized that these people were not adding onto my lives, and were a big source of insecurity because of their judgementalism. The other girl probably talked shit behind my back to a point where the other felt the need to fling insults at me.

I'm so glad I cut these people out of my life.

Poplik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:01:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am not a fan.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:14:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've just been going with the keep to yourself thing. Pretty close to losing all my friends but what does social anxiety care about that.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:29:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family are the opposite. When my mum started her first job in a bank she spent her first week in tears because she could believe how backstabbing the guys were. Of course she was very innocent but I just found it really dumb. I don't know if it is like this everywhere but in the UK if you are a young woman blokes you work with will basically start doing a full blown character assassination on their friends literally as soon as they are out of the door. And they seem to think they are the ones who do it but in fact it is most men under 40. I still think it is really weird behaviour.

Heavykiller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:39:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Man, high school fucked me over on this one.

I'm a pretty good listener (just like hearing peoples' stories), so in high school I would hear all sorts of mad shit talk. People would openly just tell me how this person sucks or how much they hate someone else. It got me scared thinking people probably do the same to me, so I'm either quiet or get super-conscious about what I say.

5 years later and I still have that worry sometimes.

It doesn't help my parents live off of talking smack about their friends when they're not hanging out with them. When we're home they're just completely unfiltered on what they say.

benihana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:46:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

they're not even thinking about you, they're too busy being worried if people like them

FinalEdit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:49:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If I've interpreted this correctly this is a similar thing my mum used to say.

She's a good person, she's always had a twisted view on reality though - like a very reductionist, individualist approach - I guess it comes from years of a very difficult, sometimes abusive family.

Anyway, when I was a kid, friends would phone either for a chat or to organise something or talk about lending stuff to each other, y'know...kid stuff....after the call she'd, or after they'd visited she'd say stuff like "Don't trust anyone, ever...they say they're your friends but they're not. They're all out to get what they want from you so be careful"

She was being what she saw as protective and giving out worldly advice, but as a 35 year old now I look back and think "wow...how fucking cynical and untrusting you were"...the quality of my friendships through childhood to adult life would have been WAY more valuable if I'd actually been more outgoing and trusting. Sometimes people ARE out to use you - but the solution isn't to distrust everyone, it's to have the right tools to see who's not worth trusting and who is.

Ugh. That one's gonna go unaddressed forever.

returnofthrowaway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:54:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm in this boat with you, too. I get so terrified and paranoid almost that I'm hated and not good enough for friends, that I feel isolated most of the time. Couple this with a long history of actual rejection and abandonment and I feel like I'll never actually trust that someone will like me and stick around.

ActuallyRelevant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:59:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just remember, if you take the time to think about if someone you just met was just pretending to like you, they most likely aren't even thinking about you at all. Honestly to most people if you aren't int their inner circle you're invisible.

CeruleaAzura ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:14:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Am I weird for preferring dry chicken? My grandmother, who is an amazing cook, accidentally overcooked the chicken once and I couldn't get enough of it. I always slightly overcook it now when cooking for myself.

SpiderDolphinBoob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:17:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly most (all) people don't give a fuck about you and what you do in public. They barely think about you for 3 seconds. Seriously you could do something weird and they would think "that's weird" then never think about it again

ThirdRook ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:27:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I do this neat little trick where I dont care what randos think about me.

Epicsharkduck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:43:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit are you my cousin

rauer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:44:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not always one or the other. My husband and I will vent to each other sometimes about our friends' actions, but we'll usually come to the conclusion that we still like them a lot and it's worth being friends with them. There are people in this world I'd drop everything to help, but I'm not walking around daydreaming about how amazing they are, either...

P4i3r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:49:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

^ this

spongyruler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:52:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have that same issue.

E72M ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:53:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

lol I know my friends talk about me behind my back, we all do it to each other and we all know it so it doesn't really bother us and tbh we normally say it to each others faces after saying it behind each others backs

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:02:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Greetings fellow southerner!

Steakarino ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:02:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel you there, I have this perpetual feeling that everyone actually hates me and that I annoy the hell out of everyone and they just put up with me cause they feel bad or so I can do things for them. And then I tell people and I feel like that annoys them too. Even the people I really trust, which is extremely hard for me by the way, I feel like I'm one stupid thing said away from them hating me. I've gotten better about it but that feeling is still always there, you know?

elastic-craptastic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:03:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

<thick southern accent> Awww. Aren't you just precious.

ZeaMaysEverta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:26:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Half of my family is like this, and it took me awhile to realize its not just light joking fun, its toxic hatefulness that no one wants to be around!

EditingTips ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:28:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Please do.

ZeaMaysEverta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:34:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Please do realize this?

I have, I only consider one half of my family my actually family and its the side that doesn't talk shit when I'm not around!

EditingTips ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:35:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is just cringe.

electrobeam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:27:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I believe this without ever being conditioned to. Yay!

PhiliChez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:32:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I used to be afraid of acting out or being noticeable until I realized... or maybe decided, that people just don't care. I don't think about and judge the vast majority of people who act crazy and those I do I don't hurt in anyway, therefore I think everyone else is a mirror situation. Nobody cares. That concept fundamentally turned me around from being an introvert to someone that can mostly be a happy chatty person.

publiusnaso ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:37:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's actually slightly narcissistic to assume people are talking behind your back at all, good or bad. They probably aren't that interested in you.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:39:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

People talk incredible shit behind the backs of the people they love, best friends, etc.

Cyno01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:51:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My wife is like this. Shes constantly worried about horrible judgment and machiavellian scheming by extended family. I constantly have to remind her that my extended family isnt all crazy like hers.

No, no one in my family is going to hold it against you forever if you go to your friends bachelorette party instead of my adopted cousins wife who weve never mets baby shower.

HoboSomeRye ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:56:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is really annoying and extremely toxic people (who get no where in life) indulge in this kind of behavior.

Different people will say different things about you behind your back. Their opinions speak volumes about them and not you.

JMile69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:00:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I LIKE YOU

rareherodotcom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:05:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yup. That is still a work in progress. Thanks for sharing.

OMG_NoReally ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:18:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I suffer a similar anxiety. I have a stutter, so that makes it even worse. I always assume that people don't like me and probably don't want to talk to me after they realize I stutter. My super shyness also doesn't help the matter. This has been true in many cases over the years, and that puts me in great fear of socializing.

Luke-Antra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:21:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel you...

MonkheyBoy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:23:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I learned this early, luckily enough, everyone i my family talks shit about everyone. Except my dad, he doesn't say much at all.

scandii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:32:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

not sure if this has been said already, but if they talk shit with you, they talk shit without you. it's life unspoken rule.

nurse_ninja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:32:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Totally normal, actually. I think we all feel this way at one point or another. I go back and forth from "nobody likes me" to "fuck them. Let them hate".

ElectricMilkShake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:37:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My life

fortalyst ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:37:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dw i am normal in that respect and still get anxiety from this topic for most of my friends

TheyreNotHoverboards ยท 5361 points ยท Posted at 00:53:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you should never do anything for others because nobody will do anything for you.

I understand because my mom came from a very rough household growing up, but it was frustrating whenever she found out I bought lunch for my friends or gave someone a ride it would always be the "nobody will look out for you, why do the same?"

[deleted] ยท 2433 points ยท Posted at 03:31:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That sucks, I probably would've thought that if it weren't for my classmates mom in 2nd grade, she bought me new shoes because she knew my mom couldn't afford it that year then never asked for anything, didn't even expect me to hang out with her kid, she just gave shoes and disappeared and is a huge part of the reason I am who I am. Even if people can't pay you back or say more than thanks they definitely appreciate the nice things you do and it can have a positive effect on the world.

[deleted] ยท 110 points ยท Posted at 05:04:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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PoseLaw ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 05:34:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've had people thank me for things I did that I did not remember doing, then reminding me how I helped them so much and a small gesture did wonders.

The mother will probably vaguely remember or if her mom is like me I will go "oh that sounds like something I'd say".

Itagu ยท 125 points ยท Posted at 04:48:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a mother that has done such things, thanks. I've done this for other kids and its not because I wanted the attention. I just wanted my kids stuff that he can't fit anymore to have a use.

I dont make much money so I do what I can to make the stuff I spend money on last. If its my kid or yours, idc.

[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 04:56:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's such a sweet story :)

norcaltobos ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 06:02:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If anything, I've always been told that you should never offer something up if you expect someone to pay you back equally. If a friend needs money? Help them out how you can and don't expect to be paid back. It's not about being equal, it's just about being a helpful human being.

SoGodDangTired ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:00:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think my mom is very similar. We've gotten into arguments because I do nice things for my friends without expecting it to be mutual.

brokenodo ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 06:51:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's amazing that it affected you so profoundly. I don't know if it's my place to say this or what connection you have with her, but i'm sure she would be tremendously gratified to know the impact her kindness had.

VictorVanguard ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 07:58:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How did your parents react when they found out? I know some who would feel ashamed, others who would feel angry.

[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 12:42:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom for once didn't let me know how she felt at the time. I brought it up to her recently and she did she was embarassed at first but then decided to be grateful

VictorVanguard ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 13:02:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's lovely, your mother did the correct thing. Your best interests over her pride.

Randomn355 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:39:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And this kind of shit is why I'm a firm believer in making sure you pay your debts, even by paying it forward.

You never know what that gesture may mean to someone.

chandarr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:41:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I like you.

oxygenium92 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:16:32 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thats those little thing... They dont matter that much for people who make good things but for you it is a life changer.

lunchboxrox ยท 1591 points ยท Posted at 04:17:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom told me, "Always give, but never expect anything in return." It's nice to be a giver, but not so nice when people are always taking. There's a happy balance between our mom's dichotomies.

Mourningblade ยท 454 points ยท Posted at 05:35:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Giving lets you learn something about what kind of person is receiving. As long as you don't expect anything in return, you're making out way ahead.

For example: I went to grab some coffee and grabbed a s'mores bar for my teammates - there's six of us. Handed it around on a plate with a knife for them to cut off what they wanted. Everyone took some and handed it on - new guy (let's call him Jim)? By the time it came around to Jim there was about half left. He picked up the knife, started to cut some off then changed his mind and ate the whole thing. Didn't look around to see if anyone hadn't had any (some hadn't). Didn't check to see if it was okay. Just scarfed it.

What I learned was that you don't assume that Jim will feel obligated to do his "fair share" of work. If you're splitting work with him, make sure it's really, really clear what he's expected to do. That was his second week there, and it's been pretty accurate since then. He does his work, but if he doesn't see it as his work, he doesn't feel obligated to help out.

[deleted] ยท 228 points ยท Posted at 07:13:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm having a really hard time picturing someone legitimately doing that without so much as a twinge of shame or feeling selfish. How much insight must one lack to seriously act like that?

Fatkungfuu ยท 151 points ยท Posted at 07:51:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How much insight must one lack to seriously act like that?

It's somewhere between not using your blinker and leaving a mess on a fast food table

whisperingsage ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 14:35:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Except using your blinker sometimes ends up having people actively try to cut you off. Because heavens above if they have to let you win by taking their foot off the gas for two seconds.

eBelowTheStaff ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 14:56:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just use your blinker and stop trying to justify being an inconsiderate bad driver.

whisperingsage ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 17:53:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I do, but sometimes it makes things more dangerous for me, rather than safer for the other drivers.

[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 18:11:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

merges in lane in front of other driver without so much as a warning

"I'm a safe driver, indicating i'm about to merge makes it more dangerous"

Lol

whisperingsage ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 18:17:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Like I said in my previous comment, when they immediately speed up to cut off the spot that was clear up till that point, it makes it more dangerous. Has this seriously never happened to you?

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:42:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not old enough to drive, so no. But you can't just assume they'll cut you off to justify not using your blinkers. Even i know that's just being a bad and unsafe driver. You're putting others in danger and should seriously reassess your driving.

Having someone speed up to block me is something i'm willing to accept and take in order to not risk an accident.

whisperingsage ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:50:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not assuming. I use my blinkers and they do.

BugsRabbitguy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:55:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Meet at the middle like i did learning to drive in shit miami traffic. Put you blinker on as you're merging.

whisperingsage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's usually what I have to do unless I want to wait for a gap.

karmapuhlease ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:13:36 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't worry man, I understand what you mean (as a native New Yorker). I signal 99% of the time, because I don't drive during rush hour too much, but I definitely see why people wouldn't in certain situations.

KnotARealGreenDress ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:00:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In my city you use it if you need to make a lane change and someone is riding too close to your fender for you to make it. If you put in your blinker they'll speed up every time, leaving you room to move over. Not the intended use, but this is also the city where people stop dead in the middle of traffic circles and merge lanes, so you can't really ask for much more.

Pa5trick ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 15:41:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not condoning Leaving garbage on the fast food table but I actually kinda appreciate the ones who do that. Allows me to wait until the table has been cleaned off to sit.

karmagirl314 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:26:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not sure I quite follow you here- are you saying that you like having to wait for a worker to come out and clean the tables before you can sit down with your food? In most fast food places I've been to it could be hours between dining room checks.

rschinker ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:31:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm guessing it's because a pile of garbage will call attention to the fact that the table is messy, and when someone comes out to throw it away they will likely also bring a towel. You end up with a legitimately clean table, as opposed to one where the garbage was thrown away by the customers but the table didn't get wiped off.

Pa5trick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No that's no what I'm saying. I'm just saying when I see a table like that it is usually cleaned right away vs the tables that are not left like that. Maybe it's different here in Canada but most places I go will beeline to a table that dirty within minutes depending on how busy it is. I prefer having a freshly cleaned table rather than not knowing.

CoffeeAndSwords ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:12:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You could just use some napkins and clean it yourself. It's like 30 seconds of work.

Pa5trick ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If there's no tables that I've seen be cleaned I do that, just saves me 30 seconds if they do it for me.

Burritobandit1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:43:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not sure how they clean it there, but everywhere I've seen they just take off the tray and "clean" it with a dirty rag.

Pa5trick ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:48:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Most places I've seen use a cleaner and they wipe it down.

r3gnr8r ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 10:21:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some people grow up and develop a habit of making assumptions based on their immediate info, usually because sometime in the past asking questions routinely brought about a negative response. Some are essentially taught that it's better to assume and deal with a possibly negative consequence, than to ask and guarantee a negative consequence.

Then again the guy could just be an insensitive jerk individual.

edit: the phrase "stop asking and use your brain" comes to mind :(

[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 12:44:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't see how that translates into "taking the whole piece instead of sharing because i want it" though

French__Canadian ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:44:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Geeze Jim, you're such a moron. What don't uo understand?" Might be the answer he fears

klethra ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:55:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"I wouldn't have given it to you if I didn't want you to have it. Cmon."

BenFoldsFourLoko ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 11:45:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep... pretty shit thing I'm glad I never experienced. Been around those "stop asking and use your brain" types. Usually don't have much of a brain themselves and when I actually use mine, they get outperformed :\

Randomn355 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:41:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or get salty when yiu use your brain and realise you need to be doing something other than their job for them right at that moment they need a bit of help.

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 12:35:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There are lots of people like that unfortunately. I work graveyards at a store that does all kinds of barbecues and free food and shit. They but is 6 foot subs and red bull and stuff because we are sleeping when the good food happens. The day crew eat a bunch of the shit set aside for us every time.

boom149 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:29:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some people just lack the social/empathetic intuition for that insight, and it's not necessarily their fault. If Jim does his fair share when specifically told what his fair share is, he's probably not trying to be selfish, but is just bad at understanding what is and isn't considered selfish.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:07:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm specifically talking about the cake thing as i don't know Jim personally or in his job. So what i can't understand is the thought process behind this specific scenario.

Jim sees everyone passing a plate around, cutting off a piece of cake for themselves. Jim is then passed the plate, where he at first thinks to cut himself a piece. On second though, nvm, he'll just take the whole thing.

Wtf Jim?

Then in other situations and about "his fair share", that's another discussion that i don't think we have enough information to correctly assess.

Shower_her_n_gold ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:00:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know a kid exactly like that. He and his brother actually will purposefully race to drink as much of the juice or soft drinks as possible to make sure they get their fair share. If there is still food to serve, you can be sure that whichever one of them gets there first will consume about 80% of what is left of not more.

You simply can't trust either to serve themselves or even be in the kitchen. They are both teenagers.

theapathy ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 16:31:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The world is a hard and cruel place where it's natural for the strong to take from the weak. I would say that wanting to help is more of a defect than being selfish, but it's good that a lot of people are defective in that manner.

mr_trick ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 07:07:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, gift giving can tell you a lot about a person. Their reaction can reveal which people are grateful, which people will do something in return, which people feel entitled, which people are selfish or ungrateful, etc.

I never expect anything in return but if you act ungrateful or entitled, you can bet you won't be receiving anything from me in the future.

Pomqueen ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:12:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow, Jim's a big asshole face.

a-r-c ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:32:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He does his work, but if he doesn't see it as his work, he doesn't feel obligated to help out.

beancounting asshole

DeapVally ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:57:27 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You should be careful making sweeping assumptions from ad hoc 'social experiments', because your testing method is anything but scientific to say the least!

If i do them, and they can be fun, it's just for that reason. I work with some incredibly smart people but my god do they lack common sense at times! (e.g. our changing room door gets jammed all the time, so i pull up a chair and watch. Now the sign says the lock is broken and estates have been informed, i've told the person the lock is broken AT the door, how many people still try the door? Almost everyone! It's the people who dont that interest me....)

lunchboxrox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:14 on August 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I notice that I tend to hang out with friends who will share or give back after I give. You and I seem to have the same theory, that giving is a barometer of the type of person someone will be.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:38 on September 19, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ugh.

One time we were on a family vacation and passing around this water bottle. I was the second to last to go and an ice cube fell into my mouth and I spit it back into the bottle because it was so cold... everyone in the car was so mad because I had 'ruined' the water. I was just a kid! I wasn't thinking that far into the future and the ice cube was cold and so I just fixed my immediate situation. I was called selfish and rude.

I've been holding that one in for awhile... Hmmm. It seems my lack of impulse control has really been an issue since childhood and I have held on to those moments when my lack of forethought (or any thought) made people upset with me and call me selfish and rude and generally bad things.

unholy_abomination ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 05:52:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ditto, more or less. Growing up, she told me, "Never lend money to friends or family with the expectation of getting it back." One of my favorite uncles has a crippling pill addiction, so she wanted us to learn that one early.

Ceggen ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:31:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I've always been a very giving person. It's in my nature and it has shit on me so many times I can't even count. Some times I wonder if I have a mental disorder or a masochistic tendency. I do suffer from extremely sever depression. As I've gotten older I've gotten better, especially with my finances. The worst of it though was a few years ago. I was living at home and my family came under tough times. Brother lost his job, Parents business was in the shitter, Christmas around the corner, and things weren't looking pretty. I drained my savings, took all my siblings out and let them buy gifts for every member of the family. I went grocery shopping and stocked the pantry so we'd have dinner for Christmas eve and Christmas. Christmas rolls around and everyone has a great time and all is right with the world. A week later, entire family is treating me like shit. Pure, absolute, nasty, mean, shit... So I talk to my Mom about it and in her words, "Everyone is still just a little upset about you throwing your money in their faces over Christmas"

To this day I don't buy presents for anyone for anything...fuck that

Tl;dr Bought my family presents for a rough Christmas, they took it as me "Throwing my money in their faces."

Built-In ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 08:44:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A phrase I learned from Reddit is that "the giver needs to set boundaries because the taker never will."

Cheese_Coder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:08:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom taught me that, my dad taught me to never expect anyone to have my best interest at heart or expect anything of them...

mangoestriedtokillme ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:35:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This exactly. I spend a lot of time hurt because my friends don't seem to give much of a shit about me when I try so hard to do everything I can to help them. Like, I drop whatever I'm doing when you need me but when my mom is dying in the hospital you're too busy wanting to hang out with your boyfriend to want to talk to me.

HeartOfStoner ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:10:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's hard. My husband has the biggest heart and has friends like that. It's sad to see him realize that maybe he should let go of some of those one sided "friendships".

linwail ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:01:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's also a problem when you give too much. I got a bad habit from my dad to always help people pay for things when they don't have much which then is an issue since I don't have much either. I just love seeing how happy people get when I offer to buy them dinner or candy or something.

Palindromer101 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:19:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I live by this. I will give out what I can afford to lose if I feel like it, but I don't give away everything and I don't keep everything to myself. It feels like a good balance.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:46:51 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad really drove this home when I was a kid, but all it taught me was to give all I had to people, and to be totally okay with getting nothing back. Ever. Led to a lot of one sided, ungrateful relationships.

Makeshiftjoke ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 04:13:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sorta learning a hybrid of this lesson. You can't light yourself on fire to keep others warm. I worked my ass off in college for a program that didn't do a hell of a lot for me, because I wasn't concerned with being in the "in" crowd--it was a leadership program which was run by the students who were most senior, and if you were friends with them, you could basically get whatever you wanted, and if you kissed ass to the teachers who did all the admin stuff, you could get even more. Which kinda sucks, because if you're trying too hard to be "in", it's false and noticeable, so even then you're not really "in". And I never wanted to be a bother or nuisance to the teachers, and that back fired because it meant that a lot of the sacrifices I made in time and energy went totally unnoticed.

Do things for people who do things for you, do things even for people who haven't done anything for you yet, but if someone fucks you over, limit contact.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you me? I could've been building a network and getting lots of recommendations. I wonder if people in my department even remember me.

aslokaa ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 04:31:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Kind of a self fulfilling prophecy

LittleGoblin ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:35:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm so sorry you all had to go through that! I was always taught to do good, and never EVER expect someone to give you something in return.

Shit, one of my best friends broke down crying when I let him sleep on my couch. He and his fiancรฉe had just lost their house and we're trying to live out of their car.

I don't care if I never receive anything back in life from all that I have given. I just never want someone to not feel like they are alone or useless.

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:48:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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sNapCSGO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

Built-In ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:45:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hey, just in case you need to hear it, that is super fucked up. And I'm sorry you went through that.

Amberleaf29 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:41:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair, I've found this one is kinda true. I've had a lot of friends take advantage of kindness. It sucks, for instance, being the only one out of a group of friends who drives, but if you decide you're not gonna drive one day, no one shows up to your plans. Most people also never pay me back for things, so I've stopped doing that too. Maybe I had the wrong friends, but in high school I guess a lot of people are of the mindset that it's easy to take.

tomtomyom ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:25:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

same experience. I was one of the nicest guys in high school but after seeing how 95% of the time most of them would try to take advantage of you I don't really care about being nice anymore

SimonCharles ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:23:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have the same experience, I can feel myself trying less and less to be kind as I grow older. Seems like people are more than happy to receive kindness but tend to forget it pretty quickly if you don't rub it in their face and remind them constantly, which I don't feel like doing.

I admit I might have a slightly skewed view on it, but still honestly feel like some people just get more recognition for being kind, often the same people who are just naturally popular. People just notice it and "appreciate" it more if the kind person is also charismatic/attractive. I know a few people who are very selfish but project a very positive image and are constantly hailed as friendly and great people even though they don't necessarily do more than others. It's pretty depressing and really doesn't encourage me to be friendly since it mostly goes unnoticed or is quickly forgotten. People like to repeat the mantra that everyone can do everything just as well if they just make an effort. It's just hard to accept the fact that some people have to make WAY less of an effort to get to the same point, yet they're the ones getting all the credit and the ones like me are just called lazy whiners who are too lazy to just "do something about it".

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:08:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm afraid you're right in that you had the wrong friends. Friends taking advantage of your kindness aren't your friends. In fact they aren't good people at all. I hope you have a few friends now that don't take advantage of you!

OfficialTacoLord ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:45:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom doesn't have that outlook and is even fairly liberal in how she treats others but for some reason she couldn't handle the fact that I bought lunch for my friends on occasion. They usually did the same for me every once in awhile even if I didn't expect it in return. I also gave my sister 10$ when she was going to have a last picnic before she and her friends went off to college. She didn't have any cash to buy food for it so I "lent" it to her (lent meaning I gave it to her and she said she would pay me back even though I said she didn't have to) and my mom couldn't stand that. She said my sister was manipulating my even though she gave me the change and even payed back some of it as soon as she got back.

I think some people just have issues with giving away something of theirs without a guarantee of getting it or more back.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:03:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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OfficialTacoLord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:06:56 on August 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think there was tension between them about finances that I didn't know about since she was heading off to college but I still thought it was fine.

Enyaron ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:15:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was taught the oppisite of this and it does seriously get taken for granted by a certain people, I'm trying to learn to be more stringent towards those people with it currently. Also trying to learn how not to be a doormat who does whatever anyone says =/

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:31:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother did the same thing! Granted I was a bit of a pushover as a child but she acted as if doing something nice for a friend and expecting nothing in return was the stupidest and most naive thing that anyone could do.

Amberleaf29 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:42:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad is the same way. I've found that he kinda had a point. Ended up being kinda taken advantage of by friends in high school because I was the only one with a car and a job, so I'd often pay for shit but I'd never get paid back even if they said they would, and I would drive but if I decided I didn't want to no one would show up to plans...

that1persn ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:51:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad is somewhat like that, I bought a game for a friend after I refunded a game and my dad asked "Why?" Maybe because we're friends?

Another time the same friend bought me a game and he asked me "Why would he do that?" It's like he can't understand that friends are nice to each other.

Sebasyde ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:46:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have a similar mentality to your dad. What I just don't get is, if he buys you a game and you buy him one, isn't it easier to just buy your own games?

that1persn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:48:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I bought him a game I already had and had the money for, he gave me a game that I wanted but didn't have the money for.

Sebasyde ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:52:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wouldn't you have had the money to buy it if you hadn't bought him a game? And did you know for sure that he wanted the game you bought him?

Sorry for playing devil's advocate, but this is just how my mind works in these situations.

that1persn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:02:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Those two times were not at the same time, months apart. It was a game we both got to play together, if he didn't like it he could've refunded it.

Sebasyde ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:38:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Alright. Still not something I would do, but I see your point. Although if I were him, I feel like refunding it could be a bit rude.

that1persn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:42:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In my eyes it's like this, if he didn't like it, it would be better for him to refund it so I can get the money back to buy whatever I want. It's better than him keeping a game that he'll never play.

Sebasyde ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:58:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh man, that just feels like a really awkward situation to me. I guess I just worry that a person won't like my gift. And if that person is like me, then they won't like it, because I usually hate getting gifts (unless it's obvious that I don't have to give something back, like when an older relative gives me something).

Scimmiacompa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:09:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I kinda think the point of it is

I buy a game, and my friend buys a game for 10$. The result is -10$ and +1 game for both of us.

When i gift a 10$ game to my friend and he does the same. The result is -10$ and +1 game for both of us, but in the process we probably got some good feeling from receiving or/and giving a gift.

Ofcourse if you and you friend both think its "stupid" then that makes it pointless

Sebasyde ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:46:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I see what you're saying. I guess for me it's just that I generally try not to spend too much. When someone buys me a gift like that, it usually comes with an obligation to, at some point, buy that person a similar gift. This means that I'm not really getting anything for free, but rather paying for the gift I received. Now if I really had wanted the gift, and was willing to pay for it, then I would've just bought it for myself. Meaning that any gift I receive is something that I never would have bought, either because I never wanted it or because it was too expensive and out of my budget.

Do you follow my logic?

Scimmiacompa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:50:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes and a lot of the times its the same for me with all the traditional gift (mostly birthdays, and christmas) where you just have to, but those random times when i gift someone something and forget the thought about getting anything back its the most rewarding, and then when you get something back it's even more rewarding.

Schizotypal88 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:47:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I kinda grew up he opposite way, but then realized that if youre always nice people will take advantage of you. It's really a shame that some people are such garbage individuals.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:06:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've had far too many friends come through for me, without asking for anything in return, for me to believe that line. I pay that forward when I can.

Ale4444 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:34:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nobody looks out for me :"( but that doesn't stop me giving!

Simim ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:58:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Because if more people gave when they could, the world would be a better place

You're just one of the brave ones

stillphat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:00:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Me too. I grew up thinking that no one outside the family cares about me. Yet whenever something wrong happened they would get mad at me and start yelling and braking shit around the house.

And people would always comment that I was very distant. No fucking wonder, who could I talk to?

niklapton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:47:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is exactly whats happening to me ! I would very much like to talk more on this, good Sir!

stillphat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:28:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Asuuuh due

ThatZBear ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:18:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I always heard about this "golden rule" and when I could actually comprehend it I stopped doing shit for other people that wouldn't do shit for me.

Apollo3519 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

With that attitude yeah, nobody will look out for anybody. She's causing the problem she seems so frustrated about. It's asinine.

DatBowl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm almost the opposite in a way. People ask me to do something and I'm always reliable, but I ask some one for one little thing and it's never does roght or e em at all.

frostfromfire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Definitely have to work this ideology in with logic & how favors do get returned sometimes. I was taught the exact opposite--be nice, no one likes a smartass, you'll never get anyone to like you unless you always go along with what other people want--and it made me a doormat. I was a smart kid and always let other kids cheat off of me, I'd do their homework for them, I'd let them take my things and never return them. I snapped in high school and became a very cynical person. I should've been taught to treat people in a certain way on a case-by-case basis instead of treating kind people and conniving assholes the same way.

SixGunGorilla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's odd because I feel the opposite my brothers and sisters would always get each other back. It wasn't expected but it was just polite to repay friends and family. So now that I've got a truck everyone wants me to help them move all the time I don't mind but I can only eat so much pizza and a truck can't run on "free" beer. I can't wait to move, I've saved so many points with others that I won't have to lift a single box.

astraeasan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When people ask me why I help others, I always answer the same:

To make the world a better place, someone has to start

zackeaterofsouls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mine were the opposite, always helping people and believing others would help them but they just got screwed over time and time again. My grandma can't stand to see others suffer even if they're the worst person alive. I tend to try and help people too but I won't go out of my way to do so and I don't expect anything in return because people suck.

temp_sales ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

... I would've thought about it for a minute and went "... I'm proof you are wrong?"

SavvySillybug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I always enjoy giving people rides. If I'm at university and leaving, I'll drop you off at the train station. If you ask in advance to ensure I don't drink booze at home, I'll even drive to you and get you somewhere.

Not so much lately since I moved away from my friends and am inbetween semesters, but if you're nice, I'm happy to drive you.

Once got into my car in front of school, friend got on my passenger seat, a bully approached me. Asked me if I could drive him to the train station. I looked at my empty seats in the back, then at him, and said sorry. My car is full. And then I drove off.

Don't steal my KFC coleslaw and smear it on my window, and expect me to drive you somewhere weeks later... That's about the only time I turned someone down.

WolfeBane84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you should never do anything for others because nobody will do anything for you.

Well, my personal experience has been that every time I have stopped to help out someone, shortly there after I've been fucked over in some way.

(example: stopping to help a motorist, which then made me late in passing an area where a deer jumped out and hit my car - if I hadn't stopped to help I would have been past that spot much sooner)

ScumEater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was out with friends, drinking, we were all going home and my talkative and persuasive friend asked one of his friends if she would give me a ride home. She agreed but about half-way to my place, she said, "I hope it's alright, i have to leave you off here, I've got to get my mom's car home." I still had about 3 miles to go, drunk-ish, at 2 in the morning, on a long-ass stretch of Chicago not 100% safe city street.

themcp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:03:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My father thought the same, and expressed it a few times to me, until this December I died. The hospital brought me back, but I was unconscious for a week. Meanwhile, my father drove 1500 miles to be here, and my friends took him in and put him up and fed him and looked after him, even bought a TV for the guest room so he'd have something to look at when he wasn't caring for me. Some time after I woke up, he said to me out of the blue, "You have amazing friends." I was laying in bed in ICU, and I was exhausted and could barely form a sentence, so I just said "yeah Dad, I know." He replied, "no you don't understand. You have amazing friends!" I just looked at him as calmly as possible and said "yeah Dad, I know." I felt that at that moment, my life was vindicated. He finally got it. After all these decades of thinking I was funny in the head, he finally understood.

He came and visited for a couple days this summer. He was expecting I would make him run errands with me the whole time. I did all the errands before he came, and while he was here one friend wanted to take him out for lunch, another couple of friends wanted to take him out for dinner, then the family that had taken him in all wanted to see him. I think he was kinda floored that everyone wanted to see him, and that I had a list of others we weren't going to get time to see who would like to see him in the future. I think the silver lining to the cloud of my illness is that he is coming to understand not only why I would have friends, but that when he visits here, he does too.

BiotechBraniac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:03:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was raised the exact opposite; politeness to the point of letting people walk all over you.

Oddly enough, I noticed this in high school and changed it, and I'm now fairly assertive.

ClassyUser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:05:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same result different rationale - my dad is hesitant to trust anyone.

Being totally self reliant 100% of the time makes life unnecessarily hard. Dads version of moving was do it all yourself. He thinks my version of moving (having friends over to help) is insane.

setsunaa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:16:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was taught the opposite as a kid which made me a pushover to the extreme and I was already a pretty meek and shy child so I got manipulated a lot by people who I thought I was friends with. Interestingly enough, my parents had a 180 turn around on this life lesson when I was a teenager because of one too many times being too kind to other people and not only not expecting anything in return but getting taken advantage of as well. So my adult life has consisted of trying to find a happy medium and I am not sure when to be nice or a stern asshole when all I want is to know how to meet this in the middle.

LordMaestro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:25:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Did we have the same mother? Heard roughly the same thing time and time again, shes not a bitter woman or anything it was just an outlook she had. Needless too say I refused to believe that and did the opposite, as a result I made and met some amazing friends that I can count on if I ever need too.

tombue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:29:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's so weird, especially for friends.

With friends, you'll pretty much always get something back: The joy of having friends. I'd probably have more money if I wouldn't buy my friends an occasional drink, or multiple drinks every weekend because that one guy doesn't have money. But the joy they give me is worth so much more than the money it costs, even if I have to limit other hobbies that way.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:54:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I learned t he opposite and have gotten fucked so many times be ca use of it.

HaniiPuppy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:55:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tizzysawr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:03:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My own mother is like that. She used to be much more generous, or at least as a kid I saw her like that, but as she's grown older she's become a bit more selfish outside of her immediate family. So she's as generous with me as ever, but I've noticed she's not too keen or quick to help others when it implies giving stuff except on specific occasions.

Me, I'm the opposite on that. I'm the kind who believes in communities, and what I have I tend to have to share to the point of looking after friends and occasionally buying them stuff I know will make their lives easier but they can't get themselves because of the terrible local economy. My mother, whenever she hears of anything like it, repeats that she can't see a point to any of it because they aren't family (in one occasion that I got an ebook for my best friend she went all "So is he your son or something?"). It's kind of a horrible point of view, but luckily one I can just ignore - After all, since it's my money and my effort it's not like she can do anything about it.

macaeryk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:05:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This Be The Verse -by Philip Larkin

They f*@k you up, your mum and dad

They may not mean to, but they do.

They fill you with the faults they had

And add some extra, just for you.

But they were f*@ked up in their turn

By fools in old-style hats and coats,

Who half the time were soppy-stern

And half at one anotherโ€™s throats.

Man hands on misery to man.

It deepens like a coastal shelf.

Get out as early as you can,

And donโ€™t have any kids yourself.

Aperture_Kubi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Alternatively, you should only do things for others so they will do something for you later (i.e. karma as an accountant).

IrwinElGrande ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:26:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some folks morality goes by that Golden rule. I would rather go by "Do onto others, without expecting anyone to do anything for you. And there's no God by the way."

TheMinisterTurtle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:31:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This makes me so sad.

IAmADudette ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:34:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ugh flashback. I had a screaming match with my mum.one day for this basic principle, but it was in front of a sort of friend. And it was about how all my so called friends were just friends with me to use me and for comic relief, so why was I giving any of them the time of day.

Not nice.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:35:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Finally, someone who agrees with me! They don't even hover, why would you call them hoverboards? They're more like short longboards or something

Drew_5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:46:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow. Just wow. My best friend's parents were alcoholic self involved miserable people. He moved in with us two years ago. My parents adopted him a little over a year ago even though he was already 18.

He had serious abandonment issues because of his bio-hazard parents and constantly worried about upsetting them. He has trouble putting his best interests ahead of other people and for matters of choice, his knee jerk reaction to a question is to turn it around and into, "well, what do you want to do?"

That goes for what we're going to eat, where we're going to go, the girls he dates, everything, clothing, purchases etc.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:10:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It is kinda true. Most people are selfish and will fuck you over in one second for personal gain. Life and the human species is a one huge competition; for jobs, for mates, for money, for resources. It's fuck or be fucked. It's difficult to trust anyone. Humans are only good at taking advantage of others. It's how all of human history has worked.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:26:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The reality is, if you're in your early twenties, is that you'll discover the people you were nice to will ditch you like you never existed at some point, and that will hurt.

ShadowSlayer74 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:28:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents raised me the opposite, my dad always wanted me to help others when I could. Told me that I should do good deeds like that so that if I was in need some day others would be inclined to help me.

To this day I help people however i can as long as I'm not hurting myself to do it.

BetterCallSeal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:52:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom is exactly the same and it frustrates me. She always takes the "you let people walk all over you" stance when she finds out I did something nice for someone, instead of seeing it as me doing a good thing.

SmooK_LV ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:24:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, being nice does not mean people around you should pay back for it. If you're nice, you're nice and you don't expect anything back. (Of course, you have to keep balance on things)

Kandyman_12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:30:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That sucks dude. My parents keep telling me the same thing, but I don't listen to them. I help people whenever I can and its turend out to be great, Ive made a lot of friends, gained peoples respect.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:48:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm 50/50 on this. I learned this the hard way.

So now I just keep tabs on people. Oh want me to help out? You owe me a coffee.

HelloNation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:49:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's really bad. Probably the best turns in my life (work wise and general advice) came from people who either wanted to do me a favor or wanted to return a favor I did them.

Harzardless ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:01:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There is a good chance no one will look out for you. But that is WHY you help others. It isn't a reason not to.

Vegan_Thenn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:06:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

People who say that have had rough times and have experienced it all through their lives. It's not bad advice.

ActuallyRelevant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:10:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's so counter productive in almost every school of thought from business to philosophy. See Hobbes' State of Nature.

nightlyraider ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:12:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i'm bad with this concept myself and need to change for the better. it hasn't been so much as i've been told no one will help me, but i've seen everyone around get help when i've struggled.

also fuck depression.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:32:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My last job was in a rough part of my city. I'd been involved with the place prior to working there. One of the things you learn is that if you give people a safe space, they will start to look out for others.

jkuhl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:51:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To answer your mother, because it makes the world that much better and encourages further empathy and cooperation.

Thalestris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:59:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom is the same way. Drives me insane cause even when someone does something for me or us she still throws a fit when I do something for them

pjabrony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:10:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And also, don't keep score. Just because you do someone a favor doesn't mean that the same person is obligated to do a favor of equal measure to you. Some people will do more for you than you can do for them. Other people you will do more for than they can do for you. Don't worry about balancing every book, or even all the books. Just keep your head up for when people need you, be there, and don't ask for payback. If they offer, tell them to pay it forward.

Or, the other popular phrase: Today you, tomorrow me.

Kaiser_Kat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:14:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not the nicest way to go about life, but will it keep you alive? Definitely. People can be assholes, and can take advantage of your kindness.

throwaway-person ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:26:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is one I am working on learning. I'm tired of being used by people who wouldn't do anything for me.

earthlings_all ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:28:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Whoa!

NZ_NZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:31:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

your mom sounds gangster. she has trust issues.

in my opinion, it might be your grand parents fault. they were probably hypocrites and liars.

and maybe pedophiles too.

Deltascourge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:33:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad pretty much taught me the same thing. Never offer someone help unless they specifically ask you for it, or else you're bothering them.

ryanknapper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:46:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

nobody will look out for you, why do the same?

Because it has to start somewhere.

Kadoza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:37:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I kinda had the same experience. I was always told that I was too nice and people would just take advantage of me. All I want to do is help people.

I have a mantra: "Strive to hear 'Thank you' twice as many times as you say it."

Blazediken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:46:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom was the same way. It was so extreme that I didn't have birthday parties and couldn't have my friends over for dinner because she would be giving them free things.

mckinney4string ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:51:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Found Ayn Rand's kid.

realerthanreal420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:52:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly, she's not wrong. I'm not saying you're wrong as a courteous person either, but coming from a background of abuse what she says makes complete sense. I'd even wager she spent a great deal of time acting selfless as possible to people who neither cared nor acknowledged it. At the end of the day, nobody can be there for you unless you want and GET THEM to be.

BigWiggly1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:53:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's sad, hopefully you've grown out of that. I work at a large site with plant roads, and I drive on site because I need to get around for my job. At the end of the day though some people walk home or walk to the plant gate to catch a bus.

It's a 3k walk in the summer heat, so I'll offer them rides all the time. Every once in awhile I'll pick someone up who lives close and just drive them all the way home.

Everyone is always ecstatic to get a free ride from a coworker they haven't met yet.

PM_ME_FOR_SMALLTALK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:57:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same. I been trying to break the spell for years.. here's a thing that happened a few weeks ago.

We have a garden right now, and we were growing watermelons.

Well we have a lot of watermelon. More than what a family could eat in weeks. So I took most of the watermelon and went down to thr homeless shelter area and gave some people watermelon. It was awesome seeing people happy, and knowing that not many people help them and that by me bringing them waterm it brought them joy.

Get home later and mom tells at me fkr it saying that "I grew those! They were mine!" Told her we couldn't eat all of them she said, "if we couldn't eat them all I was going to throw them away!" And that "they're homeless for a reason! They don't deserve people food"

Also one time when I was 16 my mom was in the car with me, and this little girl on the side if the road had a lemonade stand. All I had was a $20 bill so i told the girl to keep it all and give me two cups if lemonade instead.

Got back in the car, mom threw her lemonade out and said "this isn't worth $20. You don't know her. She could be a druggie.". Yes mom. That 10 year old girl is shooting up heroin.

In recent days my mom's gone a bit paranoid, she's put blackout curtains on all the windows. 9am right now and it feels like night tjme in here. She's not very trustworthy of other people, and doesnt like helping anyone.

One last story because I have so many..

I was riding home with her one day, and we saw an old lady laying in the grass. Mom drove by, then turned out a few minutes later.

When we got there someone else arrived and called an ambulance. My mom got mad and said, "I saw her first! This bitch doesn't deserve credit for helping her!" Later in the car she told me that, "I deserve credit for helping her. You saw her right? I saw her first. That guy that called the ambulance doesn't deserve the reward."

I told her there isn't a reward for helping someone like that, and she said "never do anything for someone unless they pay you money." No that's not how I'm going to live.

LEEVINNNN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:59:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ironically she sounds to be the prime cause of this ideology, a self made problem.

SluggishJuggernaut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:07:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'd say that the older you get, the opposite is true.

CupBeEmpty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:21:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Damn, that is rough. I think the best thing my parents taught me was to do small (or big) things for people just because. If you find something not too extravagant that will make someone happy just do it for them. People like you for doing it, you feel good about it, it builds a "community" and encourages other people to do the same. It is absolutely something I want to teach my own kids.

Viperbunny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:21:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents are the exact opposite and constantly get taken advantage of. I have to separate myself from them a lot of time because I can't get sucked in. I help people, but not to the point where it would hurt my family members I have two kids. They come first and everything else comes second. Unlike my parents where everyone else came first and fuck me for pointing out when it was a problem.

987963 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:27:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's true once you get older. People stop giving a fuck, and sometimes they never gave a fuck (about you) in the first place.

RichUncle_PennyBags ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:42:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm a give you the shirt off my back type of guy. I'll help out how I can, when I can, but I'll never forget if someone takes advantage of the situation and will be on their own the next time.

narenare658 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A few weeks ago this girl I liked was staying at a friends house and texted me early the morning that she was having a panic attack and didn't want to inconvenience her friend by waking them up early to take her home. I don't sleep much so I was up and offered to give her a ride home so I went over and did. I consider myself a nice person and I'm always looking out for my friends but my dad caught wind of what out I did told me I was being a sap and asked me why I would even think about doing something like that for anyone. It was really demoralizing because in my head I thought I was doing the right thing for a friend that needed help.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's actually really solid career advice though lol

SpickeZe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My wife is the opposite. She is always willing to help everybody and as a results gets taken advantage of or scammed often. I don't discourage it, however, even though I am inherently distrustful of everything. Her optimistic outlook is a good thing and even though she has been screwed over many times she still manages to see the best in people. I admire this.

erictheastronaut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This one sticks out as the saddest in the thread for me, particularly because I just saw something the other day that reminds me of this. I was walking home from the grocery store and this mom and son were walking towards me, presumably going to the store. She was screaming at him, "Don't do nothin' fo' nobody cuz nobody ain't do shit fo' you! Ain't nobody care 'bout you!" The kid must've been 8. He looked terrified. That's abusive, in my opinion.

LeafyQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is the most heartbreaking response here. Learning the opposite from my mom was her greatest gift to me. She's gone now, but every single day of my life I think, "What would my mom do here? What choice is going to benefit the most people who aren't me?"

[deleted] ยท 4881 points ยท Posted at 01:25:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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3kindsofsalt ยท 3614 points ยท Posted at 04:36:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A delicious chicken fried steak smothered in country gravy

At least she was feeding you right

[deleted] ยท 100 points ยท Posted at 04:40:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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LiamIsMailBackwards ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 07:08:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't!

I grew up with an empty fridge that was almost always containing 2 slices of ham and maybe you could find a slice of bread in the cupboard. I used to eat the deli meat out of the bag because there was almost always a guarantee that there would be no bread for a sandwich: the only ACCEPTABLE WAY my mother used to tell us how to eat our cold cuts. I have been living in my current residence for almost a year, and my roommates know not to touch my cold cuts. Those sweet, delicious cuts of protein will be entering my digestive tract free of their carbohydrated shackles.

I-Downloaded-a-Car ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 07:39:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nothing wrong with eating cold cuts without the bread, it's just slices of meat

FlameSpartan ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 08:45:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just slices of meat?

What are you, some kind of.... vegan?

Racorse ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 14:15:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh shit.

PM_Me_Steam_Games_Yo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Waddup

hunter_oshea ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:27:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If he was a vegan you would know.

PokeytheChicken ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:59:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

your username is an epiphany.

whiglet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:27:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Roll that shit up, dip it directly in the jar of mustard, you got a meal goin

RileyReidPocketPussy ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:36:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You ate shit? And you miss it?

you_got_fragged ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 13:43:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast.

DarthRegoria ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 13:46:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You eat shit for breakfast?

you_got_fragged ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:41:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

...NO

jellyrollsportin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

cram it up your cram hole, Lefleur

Qureshi2002 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:50:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Username explanation please

RileyReidPocketPussy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

some of us have very specific tastes.

Qureshi2002 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:50:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

U-u-h-m ok?

SituationCornflakes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:07:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, but it doesn't get nearly as good until you leave! My parents pantry is now exploding with good. Never looked like that while me and my brother lived there... then again, that may have been the reason

Shadowsurfera ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:53:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Force feeding, 2/3 hours chewing a cold un-appetising meal mixed with about a litre of free flowing snot and tears.

glassuser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:59 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you now homeless?

PM_ME_MAGIC_TRICKS ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 07:29:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Unlike everyone else in this thread.

tilsitforthenommage ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 09:26:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Those poor shmucks with all that dry chicken

AgoraiosBum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:38 on September 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The ones with the boiled chicken are the true victims

nybo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:24:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Considering that half the comments in this thread are about dry chicken, he is lucky.

thecrazysloth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:50:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mmmmm, steak fried in chicken

jaredjeya ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:05:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But did she season it with three kinds of salt?

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:32:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is true. I ate instant noodles while my dad got rice and lamb or anything he wanted really.

owningmclovin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:22:37 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No shit. There were no stomac aches after my moms cooking. Maybe hunger grumbling.

Socialist_Teletubby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:36:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Kinda relevant username

mikeyBikely ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:24:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Plaster of Paris

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:40:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My diet in childhood largely consisted of beans on toast, although I don't mind it now, I grew a real deep hatred for it.

TheAdventMaster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:50:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yowch. That would get old quick.

Hoping your family at least knew how to make beans that actually taste good?

TheTrackPadUser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:01:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

At least she was feeding you right

Amen to that

emilvikstrom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:19:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Apparently not if they got stomach ache from the food.

lumpymattress ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Although that is probably the cause of the stomach ache

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PHealthy ยท 82 points ยท Posted at 04:46:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Did you know that taking a daily pill (aspirin, doxycycline, etc...) before bed without water can eventually burn a hole in your esophagus? You'll end up needing emergency surgery to not die.

The more you know::::*

Lots of questions, here's more info: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/437034_3

[deleted] ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 05:06:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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NotSoSouthern ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 06:06:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Crap. My kid takes his daily allergy pill dry even though I try to insist he should use water. I guess I'm going to have to insist harder.

bobbygoshdontchaknow ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 06:13:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

if the kid is averse to taking the pill with water for some reason, just make them drink some water afterwards

Ranzear ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 06:35:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Teeny-tiny alaverts (claritin, loratadine)? They're fine.

Ulceration happens with NSAIDs, like asprin, ibuprofen, and naproxen.

CynilAli ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:04:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've been taking ibuprofen daily for years without water...

politebadgrammarguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:43 on August 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well it looks like today is your last day doing that.

CynilAli ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:46 on August 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

it actually was. I use water everytime now

lightsandcandy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:48:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You could explain the reason why?

isoturtle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:36:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Med student here.

It's called "pill esophagitis" because the pill rubs the esophagus with no lubrication. It's quite dangerous and EXTREMELY uncomfortable.

Kids usually think they're the shit because they don't need water for pills but it can really fuck them up long-term.

Garglebutts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:08:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just explain it to him. Kids aren't stupid and he'll probably understand when you tell him why it's dangerous.

ThatGodCat ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:27:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Does this happen with ibuprofen? Particularly the ibuprofen with a coating? I used to dry swallow those fuckers like nobodies business when I was a kid.

Wayward-Soul ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:05:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Absolutely. NSAIDs can be rough on your GI system.

ThatGodCat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:14:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, excellent. I guess I'll look forward to my ulcers at 30 then.

Wayward-Soul ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:50:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Changing the habit will go a long way. And taking it as a child is not likely to suddenly cause problems at 30.

ThatGodCat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:53:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks (: I just took quite a few when I was younger. I had chronic headaches and ibuprofen always helped the most, and I almost always dry swallowed them.

thebondoftrust ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:05:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If they come back and you find yourself being them regularly, get a script for a PPI as well. Even when swallowed with water they can do damage to your stomach and intestines if taken regularly.

ThatGodCat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:10:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'll look in to that, thanks!

Rando_gabby ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:59:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I developed chronic pain right before starting a computer animation program where drinks were prohibited in the classroom, even water. Fair enough, we're working with computers. I didn't want to leave class either because I had to take pills often and it was inconvenient to have to walk out.

So I took them dry and got pretty good at it.

I had a tough year right afterwards and one of the first things the doctor said was to, well, take less pills, but also to drink water with them.

I can say it worked pretty well to reduce the pain.

TonyHoyle ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:18:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've never taken pills with water, and these says I'm on quite big ones daily

Never heard of that one though.. usually I meet people who think it's somehow impossible to swallow without water.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:40:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think it kinda depends on the medication, coated pills are way easier to swallow than those that start to dissolve immediately. I can take most things no problem, but one of my meds (mestinon) tastes like death and sticks to your throat if you're not super quick about it.

Gangreless ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:15:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Coated pills are worse for me. I've only done it once or twice but the coating immediately get tacky from saliva and sticks right in my throat. The last time it took a couple days to totally get the feeling out. If I didn't know better, from all the water and food I ate to make sure it was dislodged, I would have sworn it was still right there stuck in my throat.

rcattt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:29:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One of my prescriptions has a nasty, sour taste to the coating. I always take that with water because dry swallowing it is so awful.

Legodude293 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:42:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well that's an odd fear I now have.

MemoryLapse ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:05:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What kind of Neanderthal takes a pill as big as an aspirin without water? How do you not notice a pill stuck in your throat?

nixielover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:01:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I take 3+ in one go without water

Come on you swallow bigger chunks of food

xanoran84 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:52:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Boy does it! I'm just recovering from a doxy pill being stuck in my throat over a week ago. I took it with water, but I guess not enough. The weird thing is it doesn't just hurt in the spot where it stuck (which is about midway up my neck). It hurt from the bottom of my sternum, radiated across my ribcage, up my throat, and to my right ear! Even swallowing water was painful. I more or less just gave up on food for the last week. Today was the first full day of food I've had since last last Wednesday.

Don't ignore the stuck pill, folks!

nixielover ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:59:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I never take pills with water fuck

rcattt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:26:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What about ambien? Or just any daily pill? (Oh and if I don't reply back I should be out of emergency surgery soon)

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:11:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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rcattt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ahh, thanks for the explanation. And I will definitely have to do the Pepto thing on my husband. :)

deterministic_guy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit... I do this all the time. Thank you!

azhthedragon ยท 206 points ยท Posted at 02:17:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I heard this too, growing up. I think what happened was that "stomach" (the bag that holds your food) gets conflated with "abdomen" (where your guts are, where food is digested). When you say you have a stomach ache, you usually mean in the lower abdomen, often prompted by the need to open your bowels. The food you just ate is still in the upper part of your GI tract, hence your parents comments that your food "hasn't reached your stomach yet".

[deleted] ยท 157 points ยท Posted at 02:23:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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PlsWai ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 03:19:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And violently

LordoftheSynth ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 04:29:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's why they give those joints names like "East Wind".

the_jak ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:29:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The ole GI turn pike

fnord_happy ยท 81 points ยท Posted at 05:21:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh god. Is this a new one? Already you guys can't handle taco bell and Indian food etc. Now Thai food too?

GLITTERY_PENGUINS ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 06:24:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The average redditor has a pathetic digestive system, or a terrible diet, or most likely both.

WonFriendsWithSalad ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:20:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As evidenced by thousands of stories on TIFU

pm-me-a-stray-cat ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 05:48:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think I've seen some variation of this complaint about literally every type of food on reddit.

fnord_happy ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:23:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't understand what these people eat then? Plain bread?

pm-me-a-stray-cat ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:08:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Beats me. I've never experienced intestinal distress from spicy food. Or heartburn. Good job, stomach!

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:34:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair, at least with food from different countries, your body isn't used to food from there or prepared there. So, sometimes your body reacts badly for a while before adjusting. Not sure about Taco Bell though, it's not healthy food by any means, but it should digest properly.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:14:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your stomach/intestines get "used" to your typical diet, so for someone with a stomach that's even a little sensitive, it's not surprising if the 1-2x a year they eat something they aren't used to, it upsets their stomachs. Especially food that is heavily spiced, as you might expect with Indian or Thai.

pm-me-a-stray-cat ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:09:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What about people who get sick from Chipotle? That's not heavily spiced.

ActuallyRelevant ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 10:19:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're in a thread where most redditor's parents fed them shit like boiled steaks with no seasoning for their entire childhood

ma774u ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:07:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just let it happen. I'll continue to eat my chipotle smothered in Indian and Thai all topped off with a DQ double busta (exactly what it's called). I don't spraypaint my toilet from all that.

Now Vegas for 3 days that is a different story altogether

velociraptorhiccups ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 05:28:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh yes, let me apologize for my body's natural reaction and bowel movements in response to certain food. Because it is definitely 100% my choosing in what my body can naturally and immediately handle, right?

pm-me-a-stray-cat ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:46:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You are forgiven.

Moridn ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:44:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Out of curiosity, how many stray cat pictures do you get?

pm-me-a-stray-cat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:03:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

More than I expected, but fewer than you might think.

fnord_happy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:23:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What can you handle then?

dryga ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 06:27:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What do you mean you guys เฒ _เฒ 

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:15:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Redditors, particularly the American contingent. Sorry to say, but the observation seems to be true. Other countries that have amazing, delicious, unprocessed food being sneered at by a population that for many years ate things that could barely be called food (I think it's changing now)

dryga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:32:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

dude, fnord_happy mentioned taco bell. I don't think he's referring to "amazing, delicious, unprocessed food" from other countries.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:06:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haha yeah true. But I think it was actually more in reference to Thai food

ZDTreefur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:16:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It uses the Thai express, a special chunnel that leads directly to the anus.

ChocolateGautama3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:40:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thai express is literally the name of my favorite thai place.

HowAboutShutUp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:44:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's because it tested you and declared you unfit for the right to actually digest it.

Omegamanthethird ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:49:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank god the Thai gods found me fit. Because I've never had a bad experience with Thai, and Thai food is fucking delicious.

Cr3X1eUZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For me, that's Baskin Robbins.

[deleted] ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 05:17:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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PM_ME_CHUBBY_GALS ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 05:58:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had occasional headaches as a child. Not like every day, just every once in a while like a normal person. If I complained about having a headache, my dad would actually tell me kids don't get headaches. Like WTF? Kids are immune to all forms of pain?

mr_trick ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 07:14:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some adults have fucking weird concepts of what kids can and can't do, often times wildly incorrect. I had chronic migraines as a child, I'm talking excruciating, lying on the floor, unable to be in rooms with lights on or any sound, vomiting from the pressure migraines. I went to the doctor for them constantly and was given a variety of medications for them.

Yet when I would begin to get a migraine during after-school activities, at day care, or at friends houses (basically anywhere that wasn't with my parents or at school), the adults would never believe me. They would scold me for not playing with the other children and tell me to stop "acting so dramatic". Like I would be crawling under a table covering my eyes and ears with my jacket and sobbing from the pain and these grown ups would be like "kids don't get migraines, you just have a little headache, take some Advil and stop being a baby".

stephj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:07:00 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not being believed is awful and a struggle. I'm sorry you had to go through that as a little kid!

[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 06:13:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had headaches almost everyday in fifth grade. Not bad, and they would only last a little bit when I got home from school. A week before I started 6th grade, I got glasses. I almost never have headaches anymore.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:56:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

WOAH, magic glasses!

Altilana ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:04:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had frequent and way more terrible headaches as a kid. I think adults look at kids and see them as quick healing, and often quick to rebound after a fall etc. Also I've noticed people are really I un-empathetic to headaches if they've never suffered from them. I had the kind of parents who would make me go to school if I had a cold (which I did a lot), but would go straight to the doctor for an unusual complaint. I had an ocular migraine around the age of five and I'm glad they had the reasoning to know that "I'm seeing rings around my head and it hurts" was more than just fantasy.

Fustigation ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:46:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Any time I had a headache my dad would tell me I was dehydrated and make me drink water which never helped. My mom would give me a children's aspirin which would kinda help but my dad refused because pills are bad for you and he preferred to blame me for not drinking water. Then my mom gave me allergy medicine on days where I was in the grass a lot and it totally cured my headaches. So I told my dad next time I was at his house and because the solution came from my mom, they were divorced, he refused to believe it and made me mow the lawn the next day to prove it wouldn't give me a hh and when it did he refused to believe me.

He would deny anything I said my mom taught me, especially about anatomy and health which is funny because she's a professor in medical school. He once told me when I was 4 that I shouldn't let my cat sleep on my chest because my lungs are filling with cat hair and I'd die. He didn't like that i missed my cat when i visited his house. So this leads to my mom finding me crying pushing my cat attempts at snuggling with me. After she heard what he told me she set me straight. So from then on I had a hard time trusting him.

Crazy thing is I saw when I was older that he was such a narcissist that he actually believes his bullshit because he arguments make sense if you know absolutely no facts about it. My poor half sisters never have had a pet because of that. Thank god I had my mom and that I could show them the cool stuff. I swear all our favorite video games and other media were ones I brought from my mom's. When I was in high school and they were in middle school he moved them to india, where his parents are from, so he could control them better. Now they are in college but live at home and still have a bed time. Ug.

Rando_gabby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:52:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Have ibs. Sometimes I feel it midway through the meal

BipedSnowman ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 03:33:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Food gets digested in the stomach too.

PhinsPhan89 ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 05:25:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Digestion starts in the mouth, if we're gonna be technical.

periander ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:08:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hands maybe?

hrtfthmttr ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:11:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you're cutting it, yep.

Aerroon ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:18:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What about the oven? Maybe it starts there instead?

foxfire66 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:38:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Digestion starts at conception!

REDDITATO_ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:28:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like the title of a punk song.

Luigimario280 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:31:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought it started when you shot acid at the food from your mandibles to begin breaking it down before you eat it

WolfeBane84 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:48:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think he means by "digestion" the absorption of nutrients.

The stomach just breaks the food down, not much absorption of nutrients takes place in the stomach, if any.

CommieGhost ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:22:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

It isn't even particularly good at it, just partially breaks down some proteins. You can mostly live without it, just gotta take pills with (forgive me if I get this name wrong, English is not my native language) Gastric Intrinsic Factor, which is necessary to absorb B12 vitamin and is only secreted in the stomach. Other than that, all digestion, of carbs, proteins and fats, happens mostly in the duodenum, the part of the small intestine just after the stomach.

prof0ak ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:28:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

sounds like she just didnt want to deal with you kids

whatsausername90 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:33:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Those 12 buffalo wings are all stacked up in your throat.

Kepui ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:21:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe she thought people were like chickens. Food's still getting ground up in your gizzard you ignorant child!

jonbelanger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:47:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's amazing how stupid people were before the Internet.

HotSoftFalse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you sure your mother wasn't actually a hamster? She didnt have massive cheeks during dinner, did she?

x-rainy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

At least she was a great cook!

DrFlutterChii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:26:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you tell most people in the world to point to their stomach, they're going to point to their lower abdomen. Because people call that region their stomach. When people have a 'stomach' ache, they're usually talking about that region. I have never in my life heard someone say "I have an intestinal ache". Generally any upset thats actually related to your stomach would fall under the 'heartburn' category.

Dunno what relevance it has to anything, but your food hasn't reached your 'stomach' region right after dinner.

SanshaXII ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:47:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My aunt believes that food takes three days to reach your stomach.

waht

Rabada ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:03:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have accalasia, if I don't have anything to drink, the food stays in my esophagus

SD__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:30:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She was probably thinking about what hubby told her.

spiritbx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:32:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But did you have a stomach ache, or an intestinal ache?

If it was your intestines then she was right, it takes a bit for food to get there. If it was your stomach then you can make yourself vomit and fix the problem.

Just remember to rinse well and brush your teeth after though.

dadick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:35:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It does if you have achalasia :(

mtrayno1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:00:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A GF of mine would say she had a stomach ache even when she mean she was having lower intestinal issues....

Gruntled8888 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:01:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I recall a day when some family friend argued with me that the intestines came before the stomach. I was probably about 10, she was, I dunno, 40, and I still walked away thinking something close to "This bitch doesn't know what the fuck she's talking about."

uber1337h4xx0r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:21:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

SKRREEEEEE IT STAYS IN YOUR SCCCRRRAAWWWW GIZZARD, MUDMEN. CAAAAAWWWWWW

VehaMeursault ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:02:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What is a chicken fried steak?

Isn't it either fried chicken or just steak?

Chicken isn't an adjective, is it?

judgej2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:18:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It hasn't reached your intestines yet.

AquaRegia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:42:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have a vivid memory related to this. One time after dinner my cousin went to weigh herself, and my mother pointed out that the numbers would be higher than usual because she had just eaten. My cousin responded with "No, I don't think it's settled yet".

nateofficial ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:45:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a teacher like this. She thought that it took over 30 minutes to get to the stomach.

The_Meatyboosh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:50:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

chicken fried steak smothered in country gravy

Is this a steak covered in minced chicken that's floured, battered and fried? Also why specify 'country' gravy, what makes it different?
Yes I could use google, but why look through 100 variations and decide which is the original go-to when I can just ask someone who knows.

neutralizethejerry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:59:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to keep rereading the first sentence until the last sentence helped me fathom what the hell I just read.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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neutralizethejerry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're sober, hit the bar.

CookieCakesAreShit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:37:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For some of us, yes. And it's pure goddamn misery.

joeyvesh13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:39:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think it's one of those sayings. My mom used to say that too. The meaning was that you haven't begun digesting it. Only through digestion we start to feel weird. That's when things start to disagree with you. All she meant was that you just swallowed, it can't affect you so fast.

Real_Adam_Sandler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:46:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She knew damn right what was happening.

She just wanted you to shut up bitching.

accidental_snot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:15:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I eventually figured out the stomach aches were because the food had gone bad. After years of my mother's cooking, I can now eat anything. I don't know what bacteria grew in my gut as a result of my Mom's attempts to poison me, but it can digest cast iron.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe you have a crop in your neck, like a bird.

DontChooseStrife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:07:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A lot of these annoy me but this one makes me really mad. It's just so obviously wrong.

BackFromVoat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:20:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe she was getting confused with the fact that it takes seven minutes after eating food for it to register in your brain that you are no longer hungry?

YallJustGotSarged ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:46:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad swore up until last year that feeling full was a trick of the esophagus until I gave him a basic anatomy lesson I learned in second grade. He has three degrees.

Nesurame ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hate be the one to tell you this, but... uh... you see, when a mommy and the stork get funky... uh... YOURE A BIRDMAN!

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She was probably just saying it so that she doesn't have to deal with it and you'll think it's entirely fine and normal and shit.

Stabilobossorange ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Depending on the food, time of day, and exact body state, it can take some time. I dont think it is totally unfounded, nor do I think she meant it medically. Its sounds like a mother being a mother and a child being a pedantic douche, AKA a child.

riddlemore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother still believes this.

WolverineJamesLogan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

delicious chicken fried steak smothered in country gravy

Sorry, what was the rest of the post about?

ggk1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:13:46 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm willing to bet that was her way of calling your bluff. She thought you were just bitching and wanted to see if you would stop whining when she told you that.

conduit122 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:58:20 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What was the point of that?

JSubatoi41 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:15:34 on September 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have a condition where this actually happens. Fucking sucks. I doubt that was what your mum was talking about though.

cooljeopardyson ยท 8264 points ยท Posted at 00:27:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

That anger doesn't have to be the default reaction to anything you don't like. Someone has a different opinion? They're telling you you're wrong and stupid and you should be pissed. Someone make an off hand comment that struck you the wrong way? They're assholes! You should be pissed. Anything, anytime, anywhere happen that you didn't like for any reason? Be pissed! No thanks, it makes for a shit life.

Edit: Wow you guys! I'm glad that this is something positive for everyone, and a lot of people have asked how to do this, for themselves or others. So instead of trying to reply to everyone, I'll give the shortish answer here. First, realize that being angry at everything is going to make life pretty horrible. Then, it's just reminding yourself every time you have that gut reaction to ask yourself if it's worth it or not. Nine times out of ten, it's not. If it's situational, try and make the best of it as best you can (depending on the situation, obviously). If it's personal, try to see the other person's perspective. If they're just being an asshole, think of something you're going to enjoy doing later, smile, and wish them a great fuck off while you go about your day, because assholes aren't worth your emotional effort of being angry. :)

mqnrcxnypvzw868994 ยท 1204 points ยท Posted at 03:08:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother was and still is like this. Everything she says is about how stupid someone is, even if they didn't do anything wrong. I didn't realize how extremely mean and ill-tempered she was until a few months ago. I just thought it was normal for the longest time.

[deleted] ยท 136 points ยท Posted at 05:11:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My wife met my mom, and thought my mom hated her. I had to explain that my mom just complains about everything, and everyone. Somehow I turned out the opposite of her, and my father who yelled at me for anything I did. You'd think I was stoned I'm so calm and focused. Guess their crazy parenting had a negative effect on me. Lucky me :D.

[deleted] ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 11:04:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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spacecoat ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 12:38:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not OP, but me too. I am afraid of confrontation and of potentially being wrong, even when there's little chance that I am. It's something I'm trying really hard to unlearn.

Likesorangejuice ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:03:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm the same way. It pretty much destroyed my last relationship because I never wanted to address any issues unless we were already fighting about something, and that just made everything worse.

Now that I work in a technical field I am desperately trying to unlearn this because I have to tell people they're wrong sometimes. It's hard.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:55:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I used to not be a fan of confrontation, and let people push me around all day, until my dad sent me to Greece to live with my family. He did this because I was getting into drugs. So I lived in downtown Athens, and there are shit tons of people. People everywhere. I met more people this way, and got into more confrontations little by little. Eventually some kid pushed me, and I just swung at him, and knocked him the fuck out. After that I became way more alpha. Then I went to the army for a little bit, and after you have random people scream at you all day, you become a master of confrontation.

Now I'm 27, and balanced. Changing my personality was not easy. It takes time. It takes understanding your own faults, and that's hard for me lol. Mainly it takes will power. Every time I felt that anxiety, or that fear, I would literally yell at myself "SPEAK THE FUCK UP ALREADY" lol. Another thing to remember is that if you fuck something up its okay. If you're not in danger, or dying, you will be fine.

This is just my experience, and what I did to fix my parents mistakes. It might be harder, or easier for you. In the end though, I truly believe that if you put your mind to it 100% you can accomplish your goal. Good luck buddy.

DraconisMarch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:50:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

stoned

focused

[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 05:59:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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SpookiestCatOfAll ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:42:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad's favorite is that everyone has done something, often by fault of not being white, or not speaking perfect English, and is therefore a bad person, but anything bad HE'S done is hilarious and fine.

gringledoom ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 04:36:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

At some point in my 20s, I realized that I tended to do this, and had to make a conscious effort to respond to things more positively. It was tough! I did a lot of typing snark in IM windows, pausing, and then backspacing. Snarky irreverence can be amusing to a certain point, but eventually it's just negativity for its own sake.

supa_bekka ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:53:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes! I used to think that sarcasm was my best quality. It was my favorite thing about myself. I'm so glad I eventually learned that I was just being unpleasant.

seabiscuit72 ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 04:35:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

my mom is the exact same way and I never really noticed anything was off until the last year or so maybe and now I can't stand being around her and her negativity.

ilovebulldogs1247 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:49:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My ex is like this and it's so hard to be around him sometimes. I always give ppl the benefit of the doubt, so when he goes off on a rant and I give that benefit of the doubt, he says I always go against him. Doesn't help that he lies regularly about small shit (which is ok in his opinion as long as he doesn't lie about big shit rolls eyes) so it's hard to believe most of what he says anyways

Kintarly ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:25:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Kind of reminds me of how my mom can never be happy with her haircut. She gets it done in a different place every time and they're always "Stupid untrained idiots". The demands she makes on her hair are ridiculous and I can't wait till the day she realizes that.

TIE_FIGHTER_HANDS ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:26:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah my Mother is the same way. Always complaining about others, vey negative.

Gooch_Scoop ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:52:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hey it's me, ur brother.

TiGeeeRRR ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:26:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And your sister. Hey bros!

kakiage ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:36:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've always wondered about how this happens. Good for you guys!

supa_bekka ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:37:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was a kid, I thought my mom was the (emotionally) strongest person in the world. As I got older, I realized that she is just a bitch. She wasn't standing up for herself; the whole world wasn't persecuting her. She just went out of her way to be angry and aggressive to anyone that looked at her wrong.

agumonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:04:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Did you ever notice her changing ? My vader is mostly in angry/negative mode most of the time, but I know some of the underlying causes. Only when I'm too down and can't sustain it, causing me to explode, that he finally change for a few seconds and try to be normal.

MattTheProgrammer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:32:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

my parents and sister are like this as am i. i realize it though and am trying to change it.

SadGhoster87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:27:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How do you remember your username?

KitchenSwillForPigs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:28:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom isn't quite that bad, but I did notice recently how she fixates on people's flaws sometimes. I don't think she even realizes it's mean. She just finds flaws in everyone and spends a lot of time noticing them. It's hard to explain, because she doesn't even judge people based off of these observations, she just goes on about them for a while. I think it's something she picked up from my grandmother, who is a huge narcissist. My mom is a great person, but I only realized recently how her constant negative observations affected me growing up.

conduit122 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:30:12 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everyone in my immediate family is like this.

BoredsohereIam ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 04:43:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm %75 I know your mother. Guessing she'll rarely say it to the person though. Lady I know like that is horrible about it, I've just stopped even responding and walk away from her. Saddest part is I know she can be nice, I've seen it a few times, she's always pretty cool to me but I know she's said stuff behind my back. Shrugs

[deleted] ยท 2062 points ยท Posted at 03:06:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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smallTHEmouse ยท 3640 points ยท Posted at 03:51:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

What worked for me is every person I see anywhere, I make it a point to find something I like about them and keep it to myself like a silent complement. It doesn't have to be anything significant, something small like "I like that guys shirt" or "that woman has a cool walk" works. It can even be completely made up and speculative like "I bet he is a nice and caring person". It has a weirdly anti hate effect on me and puts me at ease.

[deleted] ยท 1103 points ยท Posted at 03:55:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 362 points ยท Posted at 04:00:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In addition to what he said - I put myself in other's shoes. For example when he mentioned "Someone has a different opinion? They're telling you you're wrong and stupid and you should be pissed." Well say you're in a situation where someone has a different opinion and they tell you it. Okay now think of a situation where you have had a different opinion and told someone it. What was your reasoning? Was it to be a dick? Did you have bad intentions? No probably not. Neither do they.

ArimusPrime ยท 357 points ยท Posted at 04:49:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My man (dog?), that's called empathy. It is actually amazing how patient and calm you can be when you realise that other people don't act out of hatred or anger towars you but towards themselves. Coping with emotions is something everyone needs to learn.

[deleted] ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 05:42:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You know I was really confused for a second there why you were calling me a dog. I realized why though. Yeah being empathetic and putting myself in other's positions has helped me with a lot in life. I used to have I'd say moderate social anxiety always worried about what people were thinking of me. Till I imagined myself in someone else's shoes watching someone like me doing whatever out and about and realized, yeah, I'm a lot more worried about whatever I'm doing and don't even think about other people really. Not in that context anyway. that was a long time ago

And then it helps with arguments or conflicts of interest and etc it's really helpful

buggityboppityboo ยท -30 points ยท Posted at 08:15:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is this what it's like to be autistic?

[deleted] ยท -17 points ยท Posted at 10:34:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm angry at everything and hate everyone. A lot of people don't even have positive sides.

"He's a wanker."
"Oh but he's a very nice photographer, and he has a master's degree!"
"Hitler was a nice painter. The leader of Al Qaeda has a PHD. Your point?

bunfuss ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 12:31:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you spend your whole life smelling shit on others, maybe it's just you.

you_got_fragged ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:53:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh it was the neighbors dog shitting in my lawn AGAIN!

Built-In ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 07:43:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It comes down to the fact that we perceive our actions by intent and attribute the actions of others as intentional (if that makes sense). There's a good phrase summing this up but I'm having trouble finding it.

It's difficult to unlearn since we're the hero in our own stories. But everyone should give extend the same understanding that we hope to receive ourselves.

level3ninja ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 11:32:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"We judge others by their actions, but ourselves by our intentions"

Built-In ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you!

khthon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:34 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What about when they do act out of hatred? You'd be surprised how much it happens these days.

TheStormlands ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:23:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is what I do. Most people out there aren't trying to be like, "Oh man when i do this, this other person is gonna get super pissed..." just relax, take a step back, and then rationally think through it. Anger takes a lot of effort.

pimack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:20:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sometimes I do tell someone my opinion to be a dick though! I've always struggled to empathise with other people. I can also get insanely angry with inanimate objects. Am I incurable?

halfcookies ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:12:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your only hope is to record a message with an R2 unit and send it off into space.

WeltallPrime ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 05:04:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Here's another way to think about things that might really help: The Egg by Andy Weir, the author of The Martian :)

steeelez ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:36:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I love this story, it's spot on. Also solves the math problem with reincarnation and population growth.

caitylinny ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:01:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'd read this before, but I had no idea he wrote it. Thanks!

randywine610 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:44:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dammit. That's good. Thanks.

Heather23bee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:26:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow. That was amazing. Thank you for linking that!!!

[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:58:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Watch David Foster Wallace's commencement speech at Kenyon College, This Is Water. It helped me dramatically shift from a bitter, angry person to someone with compassion and feelings (!)

Cpt-Sunshine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:49:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That was very good - thanks for sharing. Here's the link for anyone interested.

ohwowohkay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:40:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was just about to suggest watching that speech! It's fantastic, really got me to reexamine how I was living my life. I'm gonna end up watching it again later today after work...

Luvmuchine ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:50:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

/u/barn-dog 's advice is pretty solid, my tip is to use the fuck it adjustment. Just keep in mind that is pointless to get so mad over things that don't matter. They like something you don't like? Fuck it, it doesn't matter. Someone hates something you do like? Fuck it, it doesn't matter. Someone is straight up insulting you to your face. Fuck it, they don't matter.

I've had an angry customer going off on a chest poking tirade before and just walked off because I got bored of listening to him. I went on break in the middle of his sentence.

halfcookies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
bambidiego ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:02:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That was a nice exchange. This is nice. Good fortune to you both.

iron_penguin ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:54:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also it can sound silly but try doing things like brushing your teeth with you other hand. Its super annoying and hard, but a good way to learn a bit of patience and acceptance instead of anger.
May come in handy if you somehow damage your main hand too.

frostycakes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:15:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Totally off topic, but do people not use both of their hands to brush their teeth? It's more comfortable to brush the right side of my mouth with the brush in my left hand and vice versa, but it's no harder to use either one.

halfcookies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I use just the one hand. It shows up in your face over time.

Kinda like this:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/84/59/bd/8459bd7218c4c2c984e48258e2cb49b5.jpg

iron_penguin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:19 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can do the left side with my left hands, but everything else just feels super unco.

PKPenguin ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:07:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also try getting more sleep and eating more regularly. Basic stuff but it should still be said

hydraloo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:04:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I like how you love to learn from others!

burtonpacker ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:55:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Along with what u/smallTHEmouse said: think before acting/getting angry. I'm sure you've heard it many times before but I can personally testify to the wonders this works. I used to be a super angry kid growing up. I spent 2 1/2 years in juvenile detention/group homes because of it. Once I learned that anger doesn't have to be my go to reaction, and that anger is usually, if not always, masking a primary emotion, the severity and frequency of my outbursts plummeted. If you feel like you're getting angry try to identify why you're getting angry and what emotions you're feeling because of it. Usually it distracts my brain long enough that I can calm down and think things through. Like, if some guy tells me I look like shit today, instead of getting angry I recognize I'm feeling embarrassed because a) I'm being called out for being ugly and 2) because I probably went out in public looking like a walking and talking Egon Schiele portrait. Now I can take care of the problem from its roots instead of dealing with the symptom (anger).

Also, sorry for the long read but this helps me out a ton. Simple steps bring about some of the greatest things

Ironwarsmith ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:31:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've found that any time I get mad, stopping to think if I have done anything similar to what's pissing off often finds the same flaw in me and takes the wind out.

Mainly used for driving as I had terrible road rage I learned from my father until after I had been driving for 5 years. Now I get a little upset, start to yell, realize I did the same shit I'm about to yell for just two days ago, and calm down.

Might or might not work for you.

panaflax ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:50:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That works for me until someone slows in the middle of the road to make a right turn, instead of pulling over then turning. Bonus points if they don't signal. I lose my shit

WhycantIusetheq ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:03:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One of my favorite authors, David Foster Wallace, once said during a graduation speech that it's easy to get angry with everyone around you. It's a type of cognitive bias. Our lives are structured with us in the center (first person perspective and all) and we tend to be very egocentric as a result. The best thing to do when you're pissed off in line at the grocery store or stuck in traffic is to think about the fact that everyone around you has a life of their own, too. Everyone is probably just as frustrated and miserable. Maybe the guy who cut you off on the highway was trying to get his sick wife to the hospital. You never know. We're all people. We all deserve the same respect.

Kahlypso ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:16:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No. I am more important, and only my desires matter. Everyone else is worthless, and I will take what I want.

Why do I feel this way?

WhycantIusetheq ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:53 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like you're a narcissist. I don't know if that's a legitimate psychological condition which can be treated with medication, resolved through therapy, or if it means you're just a piece of shit and there is nothing you can do about it other than lie, pretend and feel terrible.

Mostlikelylurking ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:31:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't like the way you said that. Fuck this guy!

shrubs311 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:12:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Another thing I like to think about is everyone has a story that you may never hear. Someone said something that pisses you off? Maybe they're in a financial crisis, maybe they just had a bad breakup. These things probably aren't true, but thinking about other people's situations reminds me that maybe the comment someone said isn't worth being mad about.

MattyMac27 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:39:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, /u/smallTHEmouse is good at giving advice. What a guy.

hvrock13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:09:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was expecting an angry response

DecryptedGaming ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:05:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"This guy gives good advice"

Got your first one right here :D

tijaya ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:42:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just don't literally point. You... you get a lot of weird looks

som_gye ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:39:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I like your username.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:02:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hey SuperGusta, fellow angry person here. Even up until now I get very angry about simple things, and am even sometimes scared at how quickly the rage can show up... and then it stays for the rest of the day.

Take the other top comments' advice - by thinking of compliments for each person, doing a ten second meditation, things like that.

But there's a very important caveat that I learned, and would not have made all the improvement I have without learning: this move away from anger is training. By that measure, you will slip up constantly, get mad about stupid things, etc. The point is that over time you'll get better and better at it, but you'll stumble a lot on the way there.

Our brains are momentum machines, and moods are just a way to describe the likelihood of different sets of behaviors. When you're angry, all the information coming into your head is colored that way, so it feeds into that emotion. Just like when you're happy everyone seems happier, too. When you're hungry food tastes better...

The goal is to set up a starting point for a positive feeling as often as possible, and then get your brain to start there automatically through practice. It takes a long time, and real discipline to begin every new day/meeting/minute with some cheesy positive affirmation, and then to monitor your anger and keep it in check.

But over time, it can save your life. I can honestly say I wouldnt be married now if I hadn't spent years just correcting for this tiny furious seed in the back of my head. Even though its still there, it's a shitty sidekick instead of my master.

Good luck with it all!

rr3dd1tt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:55:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'll bet you're a nice and caring person.

illustribox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:57:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Me gusta super gusta. See? Putting the advice to work.

justsick825 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:10:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Kind of late to this, but as cliche as it sounds, I find that deep breathing helps me. When I feel myself getting angry about something, I can partially remove myself from the situation by focusing on my breathing and taking a few deep breaths to get my head right.

jej218 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:24:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're getting a lot of advice, but what worked for me was to say "I could get angry, but I know that if I do I'll just be more upset. I know that I'll feel better and better happier I'd I just take it in stride". It's a purely self-serving thought experiment where you say that getting angry doesn't make me feel better, it just makes everything worse.

ryry666 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:32:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're pretty

chickendinosaur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:13:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It helps me to imagine what a person looked like as a baby. At some point everyone was a cute dumb baby sucking on their own feet, and that's really equalizing to think about.

sub_xerox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:26:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Whoa this guy is actively bettering himself, good for him

CainRedfield ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:38:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hopefully you can work through it, because nothing kills relationships like unwarranted anger

rattus_p_rattus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:10:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Kinda like a "you get out what you put in". If you're only negative and angry, that's all you are going to feel..... If you are positive and happy and give compliments, you'll find the world can be a much easier place to be in. Hence, shrinking the anger seed

kanuck84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:12:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also, remember that your read of the situation isn't necessarily correct. You're talking to someone at a party and she keep glancing over your shoulder? Your instinctive reaction might be too think she's rude and say something about it. But are there other reasonable hypotheses? Maybe she's shy and is nervous talking to you. Maybe she finds you attractive and is intimated by talking to you. Maybe she's waiting for a friend to arrive at the party and is keeping a lookout.

I've found that by thinking through other reasonable hypotheses, I keep from jumping to my default conclusion and lets me empathize better. If you're interested in challenging your default thinking, you should really consider CBT and check out a workbook called Mind over Mood. It's quite good, and not at all preachy or dense.

Hobo124 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:06:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sometimes when I catch myself getting worked up I just remember how pointless everything is. Why bother being angry when it feels bad? Life's too short to be feeling bad.

Cpt-Sunshine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:29:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You'll probably find that it becomes easier with practice.

Alarid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:55:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Heh, that idiot will never know I love his shirt, and I bet part of him knows I'm keeping this juicy compliment to myself..."

Randomn355 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:34:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Focus on understanding it.

What's the logic behind it? I always find that if I understand why someone's doing something it makes me less angry towards it.

Pendulous_balls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:49:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I like you're willingness to try his advice!

zergling50 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:24:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some more advice from a different person. Everyone, and I mean everyone, is just like you and me in the sense that we all do things because we think its the right thing to do etc. Before getting upset stop and think about why the person is doing this or thinks this way and then try to either accept it or if possible work out a resolution with them.

Kaentha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:28:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I used to be a very angry person and have completely turned around and life is so much better. Something that keeps me in check is to 1. Stop taking things personally or so seriously. People make mistakes all the time. And 2. If someone says something rude, lets a door slam in your face instead of holding it for you when you're holding boxes or whatever, cuts you off in traffic, whatever makes you mad: consider that person might be going through one of the worst days of their life. I came to this realization during the weeks and months I was suffering after a very traumatic experience. I ignored people, was rude and angry and scared. But I was in a state that I couldn't function normally. People find out their parents have died, their spouse's cancer is back, their child was arrested, their car vandalized, etc. everyday. They may be going through some invisible horror and just can't bother with being a good citizen today. Cut them some slack. Say something nice.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:52:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The thing that helped me was just the fact that after a while, the anger started to feel like poison. Walking around constantly angry really is poisonous to yourself. Once I noticed this, any time I'd start to get angry about something (even if it was justifiable), I would start to almost feel physically bad.

sedging ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It also helps if you surround yourself with people who by default deal with conflict in non-aggressive or non-violent ways. When I stopped living at home and with well-adjusted adults from loving and stable homes, it helped me see how much easier living with people can be and how it doesn't all have to be one big conflict.

Hospitaliter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't listen to these assholes

shiitakefuckrooms ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:01:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I definitely agree with this! Also, trying to make an effort not to criticize things or complain about stuff to others helps keep your mind positive. Also, when you get angry, acting the opposite of how you feel can sometimes work to make yourself less angry, ie act very gentle and relaxed.

dot-pixis ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:39:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You may have just solved my life, kind Redditor. I have a habit of doing this but in reverse- time to put that to an end.

Thank you.

Simim ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:50:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I needed this advice; I've been finding myself filled with anger and it's bugging me

PresidentPoopenmeyer ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:36:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This has worked better for me than anything. I'd love to say that I put myself in their shoes, but the truth is I don't think have the emotional maturity to do that. But if I force myself to like something about someone, I can make empathy aping from almost nothing

nybbas ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:03:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Whenever someone on the road pisses me off or does something fucking stupid I try to do this. "Maybe their kid is dying, and the 2 seconds they saved cutting in front of the line at the light saved their life" probably not, but maybe.

anralia ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:38:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Then as you get better actually tell them the compliment, you can REALLY brighten someones day with it.

I-Downloaded-a-Car ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:29:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

People always seem afraid to give compliments like the other person will get weirded out by it or something, but really as long as you're not like complimenting something physical about a stranger like "hey man nice bulge I could see it in my mouth" or "eyy gurl I'd love to destroy that ass" the other person will love you for it.

imperabo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:45:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I see now where I went wrong.

Snow_King7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:30:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know. If some random stranger came up to me on the subway or something and just started complimenting me, I'd be pretty weirded out.

I-Downloaded-a-Car ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:16:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like you're an ungrateful anomaly.

So what you're saying is if you were chilling on the subway and the dude next to you looked down at your feet then back up at you and said "Wow I really love your shoes" you'd be weirded out?

kab0b0 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:59:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Similar trick: focus on ways that you and the other person are alike, rather than different

randy808 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:08:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I do the opposite naturally, but this way seems like a better way to approach life.

IrishPrime ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:35:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This would be a lot easier if people weren't the worst.

steeelez ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:41:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One thing i read recently that spoke to me goes along the lines that every person is way closer to being the worst version of themselves than they think/ would care to admit-- but also way closer to the best version of themselves. People are just really sensitive.

Bjin17 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:49:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This stuff works. A little at a time.

ThePotatoez ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:05:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's lovely, all I really do is keep the "Most people are nice, well meaning individuals. Even if a bit silly, ignorant, aggressive or whatnot. They're probably like so for a reason, no biggie" It's such a simple philosophy to adhere to. It's always been my default state, and I couldn't endorse it more.

dirtycimments ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:22:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The human psyche is such an Interesting thing. You know you are tricking yourself, and yet it works.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:19:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I really like that idea. Thank you!

getinmyx-wing ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:06:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why do you keep it to yourself? Not the speculative ones - those would be kind of creepy to blur out, but if you like someone's shoes or hair cut, tell them! I've kind of gotten out of the habit, but I used to make a point to try and compliment at least one stranger a day. It costs me nothing and may make all the difference to that person. I feel like I, in turn, was a happier person as well because I was focusing on looking for positive things to point out instead of dwelling on negative issues in my personal life.

adudeguyman ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:02:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He has impeccable taste in pants that show his underwear.

comic_serif ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:20:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The curvature of his underwear also really accentuates an otherwise unremarkable set of genitals.

Cat-Imapittypat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:13:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This. Find the nicest thing about someone as fast as you can. I'm so glad to see someone else does this!

hanikamibunny ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:16:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's really sweet.

Laurifish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:20:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

These types of things are the types of things I say if I ever say something bad about someone. If I say something bad about them I then say two good things about them. I tell people it's all about karma; one good thing said to cancel out the bad thing I said and one good thing to create good karma. But really it's just to keep me from getting bogged down in negativity.

stycks32 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:36:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just reading this made me a better person.

TheScottymo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Much of what I do does not make me cry"

MaximusOrcus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:28:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I really like this. Thanks. I feel, not necessarily angry, but unhappy at most times, and I feel like this will help!

roxieh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:35:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You sound really nice. I appreciate you taking the effort to do that.

Yonsuo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:43:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's so cool. I kinda did this at the start of my summer coop term this year but didn't really realize what I was doing.

There's this guy at my work who's kind of... aloof? Not that he's an asshole, he's just the kind of guy that is just about getting shit done and doesn't have time for niceties. For example, he lets me go first when I'm going up and he's coming down the stairs but doesn't say "you're welcome" when I say thank you. Anyway, he kind of reminded me of my dad from his appearance, voice, interests, etc and despite having given me no reason to like him I think he's a cool guy.

He's friends with this young girl in the office and he told her he was going on a diet and that's why he didn't have McDonald's for lunch. I just smiled at my desk when I heard that and thought "Good for you, man".

sheerqueer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:44:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This helps me so much. Sometime I'll see someone walking on the other side of the street and in my head I'm like "Damn they're dressed nice!" and even if it's not true I feel better for some reason. It feels nice to do that after years of having negative perceptions of strangers.

Tell_me_more_please ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:57:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good advice.

partanimal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:20:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I like this. I do something similar, but a little different. I try to look at them with eyes that someone who loves them would see them through. Like, if your kid or dad or SO is weird, or misunderstood, or whatever, but you still see them with loving eyes, I try to look at each person with those eyes. They are all someone's kid, some parent held them and saw a world of possibilities in them, and I try to look at the person standing there that way.

It's just kind of a glowy softening around the edges.

Forgetmepls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:33:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Nice ass" "Nice ass" "Nice ass" "Lookable face" "Nice ass"

BallinHonky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:39:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Now how do I use this on the freeway?

Kareus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:57:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i have a problem with telling people things i like about them.. I think "fuck you have long eyelashes"

but i dont say anything, even tho i really wanna tell them as a compliment????

how do you say stuff like that to people :(

Ladylibrarian1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:05:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have found it also helps to verbally give people compliments. Waiting in line at the store, give a compliment to the person in front of you. Their smile will make it worth it!

Rogue_Diplomacy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:24:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck you, this advice is stupid.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:31:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you for the advice. Definitely going to try that.

Sinical89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:34:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Compliment? or do they silently complete you? (Not to take away from your helpful advice)

head_in_the_clouds69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:39:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I do that subconsciously, it's really nice, makes me appreciate people (that I might even dislike) at least a little

shut-up-dana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:09:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I play this game specifically towards strangers who would otherwise make me angry. "Her baby has been screaming on this bus for 5 entire minutes... I bet her baby screams all the time, she must be so tired. It's so hard, being a new parent. It's great that she's found the energy to take her baby out today, I hope a change of scenery does her some good"

"Jesus, that guy's drunk at 9 in the fucking morning... I bet he's just got off a night shift, poor guy. My aunt works nights as a nurse, it's not an easy thing to do, especially if you've got kids at home. I hope my aunt gets to go to the pub after work sometimes. I should call her."

Convenientsalmon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:42:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think that's because it employs something called the Halo effect, which, to the best of my knowledge, means that when you apply a positive trait to someone then you start finding other positive traits. It's why celebrities often seem like nice people, because they look fantastic and they're often lit perfectly and have learned how to mimic genuine looking smiles. It puts the idea in your head that they're good looking, and approachable, and so you start applying other positive traits onto them.

ckbig ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:54:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

oh man, "that woman has a cool walk" just made me crack up for some reason. good shit man, i dig it.

Spar_tan_07 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:55:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Should try this.

HighPriestofShiloh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:59:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I try to make up comedic backdrops to strangers I see. When I got my coffee today the guy that took my order was is an obviously bad mood. So after I placed my order and went and sat down I made up an imaginary sequence of events that lead to this grumpiness that validated his feelings. Then it was something I could laugh away. I would make the stories somewhat possible but avoid going to dark as to maintain the silliness of it all. If my boss is any ass or an idiot then I just pretend his dog died, I guess that is kind of dark. But who knows maybe he/she does have a shit life outside of work. My life at home is awesome. Work life is mostly cool and if its occasionally shit thats fine, as long as its the exception.

pieceofsnake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:07:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hate this idea.

Zangam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:08:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I just try to remind myself that everyone out there is a person, just like me. A deeply complex, living, thinking humanoid. And just like those people can be assholes, so can I. Everyone has a story.

I guess relating something bad to myself helps me to let it slide. Still can't stand weeaboos though.

CeruleaAzura ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:17:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you for this advice. I'm also a very angry person and I never thought to try this!

dipsta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:50:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Compassion is the word. Compassion is why Buddhists are for the most part happy and calm.

mt61286 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:00:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm going to try this.

hbgbz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:13:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is exactly the right answer and it totally works. It will completely change your worldview.

hiyouareawesome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:53:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Working in customer service, dealing with some "high matinece" people day in and day out, I am going to try this approach so I don't fizzle out by the end of the day.

imminent_riot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My whole childhood/teenagerhood my brother constantly told me I was ugly, especially if I was feeling good about how I looked that day. I was also bullied anyway so it was really hard and hurt a lot. Now if I see someone who looks like they are super happy with how they look - and you can seriously tell when they are just happy about it and confident and not 'omg I'm so hot all the time' I will literally stop them and tell them they look awesome, that their hair is great, their clothes rock etc. I've had so many people just light up over it.

procrastimom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I find it also helps to realize that everyone, at one point, was somebody's baby. Even if they didn't have a wonderful, caring and loving home, they certainly deserved one. "That person was once somebody's baby."

Sometimes it's almost too much, and kind of crushes my heart.

twisted_memories ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:15 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I tell myself stories for poor drivers to keep me calm on the road. Like, maybe that guys wife is in a panic and he has to get home to take care of her, and that's why he's driving like a dick.

iamotterwithnooyster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:51 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I started doing this exact thing back in my Senior year of high school (I'm 26 now) and it completely changed the way I saw people. I started seeing everyone as equal.

plop0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:44 on August 26, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ie: cognitive behavioural therapy

moloizer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I really like this idea.

alamodern ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think I will try this. I'd like to be a little less of a misanthrope.

pumpkinbot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

HEY, FUCKHEAD, I LIKE YOUR SHIRT.

YOUR NEW HAIRCUT LOOKS FUCKING GOOD ON YOU, DIPSHIT.

NICE GODDAMN HAT, YOU CUNT.

ninjabou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Replying to remind myself to do this

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:39:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Learn the difference between "complement" and "compliment," you fucking stupid piece of shit. Honestly, just do the planet a favor and drive your car into a wall, you fucking retard.

fancypantspowderkeg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:17:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I see what you're trying to do (or at least I hope that's the case), but that's where a simple "/s" at the end would do the trick...

lightsandcandy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:20:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you ok?

daemmonium ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 04:53:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What worked for me? Empathy. I tried really fucking hard to understand the motivation behind why someone did or say something.

I found myself in a lot of spots were I was terribly mad and on the other side I had someone whose intentions were completely the opposite. Eventually I understood that other people have a life, bf/gf, friends, problems, stress, jobs, traumas and shit that they have to carry around for the rest of their lives, just like me or the next person.

Of course there are people or situations that you won't be able to cope with, at that point it's just better to dodge a bullet that attempt to stop it with your face.

Denny_Craine ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:38:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep this is also big time useful in arguments or even something like a political debate. Remind yourself that this person has what they genuinely feel is a legitimate grievance. And while you may not agree, follow the path way they used to come to their conclusion and understand why someone who think that.

In a relationship it's "I don't want my girl to be upset and unhappy. I don't think I agree that she should be upset, but her emotions are as valid as mine and if I want her to consider my emotions legitimate I have to do the same for hers"

OddSteven ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 04:59:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The greatest realization in my struggle with anger was that the sense of control when I checked my anger and/or refocused it into something positive was a more rewarding feeling than when I let my anger get the best of me (which was often followed by regret and feelings of childishness). Control became its own reward. Obtaining that feeling practically meant a lot of counting to ten and walking away (removing myself from the situation). If I couldn't walk away, I'd try to not engage. Stepping back mentally and asking "is this the hill I want to die on?" Then eventually it became more natural and anger wasn't controlling me.

steeelez ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:47:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This-- it almost feels like your spirit comes back into your body when you can pull yourself out of an emotional reaction. It's amazing when you notice it.

nastyneeick ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:21:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is kind of where I'm at. I have always struggled with respecting someone's intellect and opinion if I know they're confused about something (usually politics or religion) and it makes me resent a lot of people around me. There are idiots on the road. At work. On facebook. On reddit. At home even. It seems like everywhere I go there's always SOMEBODY being lame. Its hard for me to ignore these things and it gives me a lot of grief. I wasn't like this when I was younger, I don't know when I became such a cynic or started focusing so much on other's stupidity.

lightsandcandy ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:32:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe think about all the areas in life where you are stupid?

I try to remind myself that people have full lives and they've probably learned something or picked up a perspective that I couldn't even imagine.

Pas__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:30:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Stupid people are indeed a problem, but I think you should look at it from different, let's say bigger perspective.

Aint_Kitten ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:58:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Think about purposes rather than reasons.

Why do i care about other's stupidity? Because they annoy me

For what purpose do i care about other's stupidity? Can I help them? Yes? Ok, then do it. No? No point in caring about them.

You can also think about what's the purpose of being angry or annoyed, rather than blaming it on reasons. I haven't been angry for 4 years now, tho I can't convince my brothers to think the same way. They just keep saying they enjoy being angry, or it feels good... เฒ _เฒ 

GodsAreTired ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:34:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Try finding someone you disagree with who completely outsmarts you, it's nice for learning humility

adhdthrowaway23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The way I see it you can't use this weapon without pointing it at yourself. The things you disapprove about others are what you disapprove about yourself.

maltastic ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:19:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I used to have a lot of uncontrolled rage and realized it was caused almost entirely by anxiety. When I started treating the anxiety (with Prozac), I found that I'm so much more calm. No road rage. No throwing/breaking things out of frustration.

Even after I stopped taking it--it was like my brain was rewired to stay calm.

murderofcrows90 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:56:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I just came off Effexor. It's nice to have emotions (and boners!) again, and now I'm more aware of the signs of irrational anger. Calming down is much easier now.

maltastic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was struggling to put the "rewired" bit into words; you said it perfectly. Much more aware of irrational anger. If one guy cuts me off, that doesn't even affect me. But it doesn't compare to the complete and utter lack of shits I gave on Prozac. Too bad about the boners/lady boners and getting fat and sleeping all the time. I'm trying to switch to Wellbutrin to avoid that again.

ColinOnReddit ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 04:34:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
  • Start understanding that you're not right in almost every situation, because in almost every situation, there's multiple correct answers. If there is a singular correct answer, it usually lies in between extreme views. That's what eastern philosophers refer to as "the third way."

  • Realize that the point of discussion is not to change someones opinion, but for both parties to flesh out their ideals. Later introspection and evaluation of principles is when minds are made up.

  • a perspective can be factually inaccurate while remaining completely harmless

  • don't internalize compliments or criticism.

  • stop labelling everything and everyone. There's no reason anyone has to live by--or fall into--pre existing groups. Again, the third way.

hrtfthmttr ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 06:01:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
  • a perspective can be factually inaccurate while remaining completely harmless

God damn.

SuperGusta ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:30:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow, those are some great points. I have a question regarding

  • don't internalize compliments or criticism.

Why not? If someone tells me I look nice or I'm doing something well I take that to heart and continue doing those things. If someone criticizes something I do I try to learn from it and better myself. Are these things necessarily bad?

pencilears ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:23:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some people have a shaky sense of themselves, so they rely entirely on external validation or shameing to know who they are. If that's you, the advice applies. If you are sure of yourself enough to know when to throw out feedback and when to pay attention to it, then that advice does not apply.

Personally, I've yet to meet somebody who hasn't been subjected to years of formal peer critique of their art who was able to get their ego out of the way enough to benefit from any kind of feedback.

Pas__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:42:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good points, though I think a better way to describe the third way is the bigger picture, or embracing complexity (aka systemic thinking).

This means usually those sides people take are just aspects, effects of the same bigger system.

Since we live in the same finite and closed world (at least, for now, we can't just opt to leave behind all the "stupid" folks and live on a different planet), there is importance in people's opinions. Being wrong has a cost. Tolerating this kind of stupidity has a serious fallout already (prime example).

That said, you are completely right, that we can't just kidnap people and brainwash them to be "right". It's hard to change people, but we still have to respect them, but not necessarily their opinions.

Protanope ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 03:58:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

First off, the fact that you recognize it is really good. It means you have some self awareness.

Overall, empathy goes a long way. Realizing that most people aren't actively trying to offend you but that a person might just be misunderstood or enjoy lively discussion or had a bad experience can help dissolve anger. Try coming up with reasons Angeline may have said something. Do that regularly and you'll most likely start to see less and less anger in your own thoughts. Good luck!

ThatGodCat ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:10:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I dunno, I'm pretty self aware that I hate people and don't really lack in empathy but I can't get over this constant fury that I feel at everyone around me. I never act on it because of that whole empathy thing and I'm a fucking adult who needs to be in control of my actions, but I constantly have this internal crisis of just thinking the worst of everyone around me.

lightsandcandy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:22:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What are those thoughts like?

ThatGodCat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:43:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be honest I had this whole internal crisis after moving from a small, predominantly white city to a large, very multicultural city because I thought I was actually a huge racist and just never realized? After spending A LOT of time I realized that the hateful thoughts were definitely directed at white people too, but I was so used to hating white people that when I started having hateful thoughts towards people of other races I thought that was the cause, even when it wasn't race based.

So yeah, very hateful. Very needless. Exhausting usually. At least I'm not a bigot to a particular group of people, so I have that going for me. Just everyone, which sucks.

steeelez ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:46:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
  1. You can learn something from everyone you meet. Even the "stupid" ones.

  2. People aren't against you, they're just for themselves.

ThatGodCat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:52:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Actually meeting people really helps with the anger thing! I actually love people when I talk to them, I think people are so great and as soon as I have a conversation with anyone I view them very favourably. It's just before I speak to them or if there's no opportunity to, I feel so hostile. Some stranger on the street? Hate them. Person in front of me in line? Hate them. Someone who sat next to me on the bus? Bane of my whole existence right there.

I think how much I like people when I actually get a chance to talk to them is all that keeps my civil to strangers though honestly

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:53:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Very needless. Exhausting usually.

There you go.

Pay attention to yourself, if you notice you're getting angry and it doesn't make sense you can remind yourself how exhausted you get being mad at stupid shit and chill the fuck out. If you feel better not being pissed off, why bother with it?

ThatGodCat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:01:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In theory that works but 'why bother with it' doesn't really apply if it's an unconscious reaction. I just feel it, the emotion will happen and I can say to myself "This is pointless why bother getting mad", but I didn't bother, I very much would have preferred to not have bothered, but I was bothered and I didn't ask for this

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:22:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's why you have to notice it. Once you notice you're getting angry you can derail the unconscious reaction. Saying "don't bother" isn't really the best way to deal with it once you've realized on some level that being mad about everything isn't worth the effort, but you can pick it apart. After you catch yourself getting mad, start asking "why?" Why are you angry? Why does the thing that happened make you angry? Does it make sense for you to be angry for that reason? Is frustration really worth being angry about? Is anger helping the situation at all? Usually you know the answers and the questions seem kind of stupid, but you can distract your mind long enough to stop the anger from feeding itself.

Anger isn't always bad, there are times and places for it. Outside those, picking the angry feeling apart usually helps make it lose steam. Looking at it onto boredom generally helps it go away faster than ignoring it.

ThatGodCat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:26:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can see how that'd make sense. I notice that I tend to get angrier a lot easier when I'm not actively mentally being distracted by something, so trying to distract myself with the questions of why I'm getting angry could be a two birds one stone type situation.

calonolac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You could try practicing mindfulness meditation.

ThatGodCat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I used to! I've been meaning to start again.

lightsandcandy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:02:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What are those hateful thoughts? What specific things do you think?

ThatGodCat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:09:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dumb shit like if someone sits next to me and there are literally any other seats on the bus I'll be ticked off, and if there are whole rows free where they could have sat next to no one I'll spend my whole bus ride in a silent fury. I think one really good example of how stupid these thought patterns can get is one time I fumbled trying to tap my bus pass on the bus and held people up for no more than thirty seconds, and then thought to myself "The bus driver totally saw that, I bet he judged me for it, HOW FUCKIN DARE HE DO THAT" with the same level of emotion as if the bus driver had actually said like oo boy u rly fucked that one up dint u.

violentdeepfart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:43:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do you think that people are intentionally trying to make you angry?

ThatGodCat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:48:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nah, I really don't think people are that malicious. Or that they'd have any way of knowing that they're making me mad. I just don't like the stuff they do. The people stuff that people do.

Jupiterswrath ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:35:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Have you tried overlaying a bit of apathy over these feelings? Realizing that I can't change or influence the actions and thoughts of others is a great way to inhibit my anger.

ThatGodCat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:45:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I like that idea! It's less of a jump to go from hate and anger to apathy than to love and joy or whatever, so it seems a lot more attainable. I'm a pretty high strung individual, so I think working on just letting shit go would be a good intermediary step.

I mean, I've always known that's been a part of the process, but saying "Just work on apathy" sounds doable.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:06:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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ThatGodCat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:16:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My issue at work is actually that I have to sit around for most of my shift and just read or play around on my phone, which sounds ideal, but whenever I have to do my job there's this part of me thats like "How DARE they interrupt MY reading time?". I don't even have the introvert excuse, I'm a total extrovert. Just a bitter husk of one I suppose.

the_cucumber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:06:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I just excuse myself from their presence/the conversation/ whatever and go do other things to cool down. Might take 10 mins or a full nights sleep. Once I'm removed I can usually totally let go of the anger that consumed me in the moment and go back and apologize or resolve the issue much more easily. Just don't stay there boiling while you try to work it out. Remove yourself. Even at work just find a quiet place.

An_Apex_Redditor ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 05:29:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

the fact that

cringe

lightsandcandy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:21:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What's wrong with that?

An_Apex_Redditor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:45:52 on August 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's a phrase people awkwardly shoehorn into their sentences when they want to casually sound like what they think a smart person sounds like. It's way more present on the internet where everyone is trying nonstop to seem smarter than everyone else. Many people are in such a rush to say it that they forget the "that" and just say "the fact he" or "the fact it". It comes down to the word "fact", specifically. People love saying "fact" on the internet. They call everything a fact. It's a fact that they had breakfast this morning and it's a fact that they don't like hip hop. Smart people say "fact" so let's all say "fact" too

gabid_hasselhoff ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:24:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'd also recommend Dr. Les Carter's "The Anger Trap." I'm not trying to sell his book or anything like that. I got my own copy for like .40 used on Amazon. But it seriously helped me get to the "why" about anger and gave me the language to help discuss why I was upset. It kind of helps deconstruct why we feel angry. Just saying, it's worth a read. =]

lightsandcandy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:23:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What's a technique you learned ?

gabid_hasselhoff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:19 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I learned how to stop when I'm angry and assess why I'm angry, what's the root. Anger is just a symptom, so what's the thing prompting the symptom? It definitely sounds kinda cheesy, and takes practice. But man, it works. It also helps a person come off as more mature if they're able to stop and analyze themselves instead of just blowing up like a 7 year old... which is what most people look like when they express anger in an unhealthy way.

Then you build off of that, and learn that anger isn't necessarily a bad thing. Anger is a symptom, but an emotion as well. Feeling angry isn't something to apologize for, but being able to communicate why you feel angry in a healthy way instead of caving into learned unhealthy ways is where progress truly begins to gain traction. Once you have a few disagreements where you come away saying "man, I was furious, but able to stop, control my impulses and calmly communicate what I'm feeling and why." is so encouraging. The skills won't fix every single thing, but man are they a good place to start.

Also, sorry for the hecky late response. It was a very busy day today.

windowpuncher ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:26:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hanlon's razor.

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by carelessness.

I practically live by this. Unless someone is very clearly trying to be an asshole, I try to always assume the best. People are different and have different ways of expressing themselves. Most people are not inherently malicious, so if I know they're not trying to be assholes on purpose it's a lot easier to not be angry at them.

I get annoyed by fucking everything, like slow drivers and running out of food in the fridge, but I can't say I get really angry at anything.

SuperGusta ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:32:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's a really great way to think about things. Thanks.

naxcissique ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:22:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks for this. You put into words something I can't quite explain to my girlfriend before. I'm kind of a neat freak and get annoyed by a lot of things, but it doesn't mean I legitimately harbor bitterness and anger in my heart all the time. I'll growl for a minute, but seriously, life's peachy

Nope_______ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:50:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also, even if something can be attributed to malice, is there still any reason to get mad? I think a lot of people feel they have a right to be angry in certain situations. Sure, they can feel however they want, but it's a ridiculous and miserable way to approach a situation.

Dontknowanames ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:34:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just stop yourself and think logically. Think why you are angry and if you should be angry. It would take practice, but I did this and I rarely get angry anymore.

Pas__ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:46:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There are a lot of things in this world to be angry about, but you then must remember, that anger won't solve any of them either!

Thinking rationally will.

lightsandcandy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:27:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not always easy to think logically. But If you're interested in thinking logically and being rational come join the sub I'm trying to get off the ground (/r/rationality) and check out LessWrong.com --it's a pretty cool resource for thinking strategies

If you like Harry Potter check out Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality (hpmor.com)

Shut-up-Farva ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:35:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In times like this, I turn to The Dude for his sage wisdom

Snatch_Pastry ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:00:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Try to think about the theoretical "wins" instead of the theoretical "losses". For instance, this whole week in Houston has been rainy and shitty and annoying. And the drivers here fucking suck, and the whole town goes into traffic deadlock whenever it rains.

But I didn't get caught out in the rain even once, and that's awesome! It could have easily happened and that would have been shitty, but it didn't, and that's great!

babooshkaa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:20:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Therapy and medication are working for me.

lightsandcandy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:29:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What bits of therapy help most?

steeelez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:01:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I do dbt, it has four components- distress tolerance, emotion regulation, interpersonal effectiveness, and mindfulness. The "traditional" progression is to learn how to recognize the emotions you are having, ie being able to name them, noticing when you're getting caught up in "emotion mind" (or alternatively, trying to shut it down with "rational mind" and not letting yourself feel things), etc. knowing emotions are like a wave, this too shall pass, etc. Skills to tolerate distress like distract with something else, try to find silver lining, practice opposite action, etc. some people try to deal with intense emotions by deliberately finding another strong feeling, ie hold an ice cube in your hand, watch a horror movie. There's a ton more skills, i can't even get into interpersonal effectiveness but you can look up DEAR MAN and GIVE FAST. And you can build emotional resilience with basic self care, the acronym they have for that is PLEASE MASTER. I would highly recommend it as a therapy- I still have a bit of a drinking problem but I feel much more confident expressing myself, functioning maturely in relationships and coping with my emotions. Every session with the group would start with a different mindfulness exercise and then we would talk about our experiences- it's a lot easier to learn to meditate if you have a group of people who you can talk about it with afterwards, even (especially?) if it's just to say "that was stupid".

babooshkaa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:08:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I really like the skills they are teaching me. I'm going twice a week, once for group and once for one on one. At first I was extremely skeptical but it's been about 2 months now and I am starting to practice what they talk about. I feel better than I have in years.

lightsandcandy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What skills do they teach you?

babooshkaa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Distress tolerance, emotional regulation, self soothing, distracting....those are some of the skills we've been going over these last few weeks.

sirin3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:02:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I went to a psychiatrist

My mother does not like it: "If you keep going there, I will burn down your apartment! ", "If I had known you would go to a psychiatrist, I would have suffocated you as baby and declared it as sids ", "That psychiatrist is manipulating you to hate me"

Now it seem I am going to become disowned and my brother homeless.

MoneyCantBuyMeLove ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:24:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I try to remember that everybody is fighting a personal battle, and that bad attitudes are often a result of misfortune. I often feel sorry for people rather than angry.

TIE_FIGHTER_HANDS ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:25:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I always remind myself that it just doesn't matter, that whatever happened was a tiny spec of dust in the events of my life. After that I find it much easier to just let stuff go.

Sec_Hater ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:44:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Find a Cognitive Behavioral Therapist

boyferret ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:57:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I liked this youtube video. https://youtu.be/du035tg-SwY There is a bunch by the same group that seems to be good.

Movin_On1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:35:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do something to make you smile. Look at cute puppies, or funny videos. Just once a day, and concentrate on how it just feels nice to smile. The small moments get me through those times.

Spicy_McHagg1s ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:36:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I started making a point to figure out why people behave how they do. No one does anything in a vacuum. Everyone usually thinks they are doing the right thing. Understanding that helps a lot.

anotheronedown ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:37:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For me I just stopped caring. I know that's shit advice but I spent so much of my life on edge thinking that peoples remarks were always directed at me that it started taking a massive toll and I'd always have to chirp back. Once I learned to stop really caring about what I thought people thought about me I found that I make friends a lot more easily and I'm not constantly hearing the worst in every comment.

FF3LockeZ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:38:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you start assuming that people are all incompetent idiots, you can downgrade those negative feelings from constant anger to constant annoyance!

Pizzarcatto ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:38:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I just make an effort to be calm. Being calm and just looking at the anger objectively helps me out a lot.

Lofdlofd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:49:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I found that looking at everything as being insignificant and that nothing good really comes from being negative really helps. Being negative makes you seem bad to other people (which you really shouldn't pay too much attention to that anyway) and that you don't really gain anything by being mad. But most importantly, you make better decisions and will be much happier if you just look at everything as not worth getting mad at

Source: used to be a giant asshole. So much so that I once asked a kid (now my friend) if I could look at his homework, to which I then proceeded to grab his paper and yank it from him despite him saying no, and when it finally ripped from the two forces pulling in opposite directions, I then said "you should've let go" (this is one of my tamer stories btw).

Edit: just wanted to clarify that what I meant by saying you really shouldn't pay too much attention to that is that you really shouldn't think too much about what other people think of you because everyone's busier caring about themselves to mind you.

CaptainIncredible ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:50:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Watch the movie "The Big Lebowski". Notice how the Dude doesn't really give a shit about most things. Either create or cultivate your own inner Dude. Channel your inner Dude - after a while you will experience peace. Practice Buddhism to take it to the next step to reach enlightenment.

ScumEater ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:50:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A: do not look over at other drivers. Never. B: try to just help people whenever you can, in small ways if that's all you can handle. Take their carts in the parking lot when they've finished. Ask if someone needs a hand. Give a panhandler 5 or 10 bucks. Anything. It almost always comes back with a positive response, it's not for them it's for you. C. Fake being nice.

That's all I've got. I've knocked about 30% off my general resting anger. It doesn't always work but it's a work in progress. Also, try not to scare people off as your default setting.

tobyxero ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:50:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What helped me is knowing that when you're angry all the time you're really only hurting yourself. So it makes no sense to hold on to it. Live and let live.

IAmShinobI ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:04:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Give less fucks man

griffyn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:05:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For me analysing the situation does it. Rather than "I can't believe she said that, what a bitch", I think about why she said it, what may have affected her mood, what's a response that might calm her down, etc.

Cool_Calm_Collected ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:10:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

You have no idea what other people have been through. If someone is being a dick they have some sort of negativity inside them. Being a dick isn't a natural way of being in my opinion. Ultimately they are not happy with themselves so don't take it personally.

You are probably not happy with yourself as well if you are angry all the time. I would recommend to try and look inward and see what the root causes are of your unhappiness. Are you not living a fulfilling life? Maybe you have to switch jobs or do something you enjoy to do. Honestly I'm drunk right now but I feel like helping a stranger on the internet so I hope I helped lol

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:14:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ask yourself "If I was were them, would this (what's angering you) be something I did purposely/maliciously/for the express purpose of pissing someone off?". Chances are, placing yourself in their shoes, you'll see that it was not malicious intent, and you wouldn't want someone to be angry if it were you in their situation.

Also, don't sweat the little things. It takes time to adopt this way of thinking, but consider this; It's for you. It will make your life easier.

Take this from someone who got her wedding photos back, and they fucking sucked. But you know what? It's done, in the past, and cannot be fixed, so what's the point of being unhappy over it for a long period of time? That would only hurt me.

BlncSL8 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:15:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Learn the ways of the honeybadger. Don't give a single shit.

UristMcRibbon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:16:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't have good advice, but honestly what helped me was relaxing with a joint and music and trying to find what I was really angry about. (Because I didn't actually care that two coworkers were blocking the water cooler for 30 seconds, so it shouldn't make me want to rage at them Always Sunny style.)

I ended up making a list of all the shit going on in my life currently and it became super clear that I was way overburdened. Now... I can't do anything about most of that stuff, but just sitting down and identifying all of it really helped.

owari69 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:18:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Any time something unpleasant happens just ask yourself: "can I reasonably fix what's making me uncomfortable/unhappy?" If you can do something, do it. If not, then don't worry about it, it's out of your control anyways. The trick is to be able to stop, take a deep breathe, and force yourself to answer that question before you ruin your own day. Once you make the distinction between things you can control and things you can't, it's much easier to stop letting things you can't control dictate your emotional state.

Ugondanfish8595 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:19:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just trying to humanize people and understand that they have their own lives and problems

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:19:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents are like this as well. If you want to stop the habit, my advice is to recognize that every time you get angry you're making a choice to get angry. You always have the power to make a different choice no matter what frustrations come your way.

basa1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:28:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Another good tactic to try is observe the emotion you're feeling, and really try to answer exactly why you're feeling that way.

A friend of mine has a terrific anecdote about how he was casually seeing this one girl strictly for sexual purposes, and then one day she called it off because she got really into this other guy. My friend was fine with the idea, until one day he saw them walking together, which made my friend inexplicably angry.

As he sat there, he acknowledged the emotion, observed it, and really asked himself specifically why he was feeling that way. He ended up coming to the conclusion that the emotion originated from feeling like she was choosing the other guy over him, but in reality, they never had a thingโ€”it was just sex. My friend told himself that she wasn't necessarily choosing the other guy over him to spite himโ€”it was just that my friend understood that "I am not special." His anger vanished at the resound of that sentence.

Metacognition is a great way to handle your own emotions, as opposed to letting them handle you. You'd be surprised at how much control we have over how we feel if we just think about the feeling and why it exists.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:57:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

See a psychotherapist. Seriously.

You're not actually angry at all those things, it's something else.

Gneissisnice ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:15:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I used to be chill about everything, but I've found myself getting angry all the time once I started teaching. Having students be disrespectful and disruptive all day really made me have a short temper.

It's the end of summer and I'm still trying to get back to normal. I just try to see things from the other person's perspective and give them the benefit of the doubt.

PantsIsDown ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:28:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wrote out a huge narrative but I realized that it all came down to bounding positivity for me and that's probably not very helpful.

So I'll just say, "hey, it's okay," and rub your back like I do with everyone else when they get angry at things.

Bluescentric ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:08:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That sucks man! Its awesome that you're asking for advice though, good luck SuperGusta!

MrStealYoGrill ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:23:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

First, you gotta steal Christmas. Then all you gotta do is give it back.

RebeccaRegicide ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:21:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My husband is like this and it's clear that he got it from his dad. It always makes me so frustrated.

phi_spirals ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:29:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For me, it's identifying with names what other feelings are riding along with the anger. I'm angry and frustrated that someone didn't use enough turn signal for my liking because I'm running late to work. I'm angry and disappointed that a coworker didn't follow through on our agreed upon plan. I'm angry and hurt that my partner didn't consider my feelings when making plans.

Digging past the anger to find the alternate emotion lets me reframe what's really happening so that I can release the anger, more appropriately address the situation, and move forward.

Hydroshock ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:36:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mine just kinda hit me one day when I got really mad one day, ended to asking myself "why?", and realized it just wasn't worth the effort and the unhappiness as a result.

At the same time, I almost thought that I flat out lost the emotion over the years after that. Thinking that I replaced any anger with disappointment. Then I got a couple coworkers that really knew how to poke a nerve.

jseego ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:38:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Breathing and meditation practice is one way. Also, spend a few minutes every day smiling, even if in private. It works. Find a good cause to volunteer for.

username112358 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:43:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Buddhism. That's just my opinion though.

acardboardcowboy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:43:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A few comments proposed great tips to defuse anger, but I just wanted to say that if it is a big problem for you (anger is something I need a lot of work on as well) don't feel like you can't seek help from a therapist or other professional. If you have health insurance there are many great, affordable therapists out there (psychiatrists not so much) and you don't need to be the angriest person in the world to benefit from some help. Obviously not trying to diagnose you at all, and the most up-voted responses to you were interesting, they just seemed a little lacking imho w/o mentioning the possibility of outside help.

Irish_Samurai ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:26:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Find what's really bothering you. Be honest with yourself, you are the only one that can fix it. After you think you have found the proverbial thorn in your side work on that.

Try not to let anger be your fuel for motivation or determination.

Get angry be angry but don't express it towards or on others.

For me there was a guy that would tell me if I was being too much of a dick. Then after a while, when I was on my own, I could tell myself when I was being too much of a dick.

Buts most importantly, being angry just is hardly ever worth the time. Make a quick quip and shove off.

heylookitsdanica ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:27:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Give people the benefit of the doubt.

Someone isn't texting you back? Assume they're busy or maybe they lost their phone or it broke - instead of assuming that they're purposefully ignoring you.

Cashier was a little short with you? Assume she just dealt with a slew of horrible customers instead of deciding that she's a bitch.

And so on.

CoutureLaLa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:24:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think the suggestions you already have are great, firstly.

There's also an exercise you can do. For something like two weeks, use your non-dominant hand to perform as many dominant-hand tasks as possible. Overcoming small measures of frustration on a regular basis helps to re-train your response to the situation.

Also, I'm guessing you're not going to go to a Yoga studio, but just sitting and breathing deeply is calming and will help bring you down a few levels. Just doing that a few times a day regardless of your state of mind will help. Good luck.

DivineHoboofDestiny ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:18:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know you are probably getting blown up with advice, but one thing that helped me was removing the word "should" from my vocabulary whenever I find myself getting angry. For example "That guy cut me off! he should know better!" becomes something like "It would be better if he was a safer driver" or "It would be better if it was more difficult to get a driving license in this country" or even "I hope there is a hell for that clueless malaka to burn in" Even that last statement is less frustrating to say than anything with the word Should

Removing the word "should' or "ought to" basically forces you to more accurately describe your thoughts in a less angering manner. It really is a silly word if you think about it.

Icantstopthehunger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:38:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your anger doesn't punish them it punishes you. When someone is an asshole, just breath and take a step back. You don't have to like them, you don't have to agree, you don't have to like the way they do things. But most of the time your anger changes nothing about the situation, and it only makes your life miserable. As often as you can choose to be neutral and focus on something else and move on. Emotional responses are habits. It gets easier with time the more times you do it.

gin_and_uterotonic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:59:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I once had a teacher who taught us what she called, "The Rule of 16." When you saw someone doing something that upset you, made you angry, something you didn't understand or something you'd do differently, you come up with 16 reasons they might be doing that thing. Someone cut you off in traffic? 1) They're running late for their kid's recital. 2) His wife's in labor. 3) They didn't see you. 4) they're an asshole. 5) their religion forbids the use of turn signals. Etc etc etc. You go allllll the way down. It just helps to give some fresh perspective. You can still consider that they just might be an almighty douchewad, but you've also given them some other possibilities. It helps. She always said, "All behavior makes sense in context." That has become my mantra in dealing with other people.

unclesam_0001 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:19:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Buy a minivan, it's great for reducing any extra testosterone you might have.

Deuryn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:19:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was in this boat once as well. What /u/smallTHEmouse said is pretty good. The thing that helped me the most though, was a video by a Youtuber/Gamer named SivHD. He did a video talking about how to avoid being angry in League of Legends. He talked about how at the end of the game, if you're mad, just think something along the lines of "Are you going to be mad about this in 6 months? Are going to be mad at this next month? What about tomorrow? You'll probably have forgotten all about it by tomorrow, so why are you so mad about it right now?"

I applied it to LoL and it worked and really, it works on any form of anger. If you're not still going to be angry about it tomorrow, it's just not worth the energy to be angry now.

You'll never see change overnight. But over time, if you genuinely are attempting to become a happier person, it will come. Just give it time, and never give up.

Fudgms ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What worked for me is working with someone who is like that.

It's not fun being around that. It sucks. It's very VERY stressful and very VERY obnoxious. I'm not saying people like that are bad people, but it's a very annoying trait. Since I had to deal with that I have been able to put in a lot more effort in just having a more positive attitude. It sounds super cliche, but it works.

I'm not trying to shit on you for having a short fuse. I was and still am the same way. But the harsh truth is, no one likes being around people who are like that and you're the only one who can fix it.

Edit: a little example of something that helps me is I ask myself: "is this worth getting upset/anger over and ruining an hour of my day or my whole day?" Or "will getting upset/angry help the situation?" So far everytime I've asked myself this, the answer has been no.

samof ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Meditation really helps. Also just being aware that you don't know everything about the consequences of a situation. The outcome of misfortune could be a blessing in disguise and it may be impossible for you to know. How you emotionally react to it doesn't change the outcome of it.

Here's a really thought provoking video of Alan Watts that helped me a lot: https://youtu.be/OX0OARBqBp0

mfskarphedin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

OG Kush

Kingimg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good for you for realizing and wanting to fix that. It's a much better life not being angry all the time. I like the idea about thinking of one nice thing about everyone.

GoodVamp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Playing violent apps (shark world) and games works wonders for me on anger management.

SuperGusta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel things like that would be useful for people who get violently angry, I just kind of am passively angry. I play games like gta and warcraft all the time and I don't think they've made that much of a difference. Thanks for the suggestion though.

ARandomBob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Apathy will take you far. Also remember everyone you meet is dealing with something you know nothing about.

Adingoateyourbaby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Stop drinking or stop being autistic.

SuperGusta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds hard

asthingsgo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:14 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

lol.

listen- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:54:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I work with people who are mad all day. I get fired up sometimes but I always calm myself down and forgive and forget. It's the best way to get through life. I don't want to feel mad all the time, so I don't. Like the other person said, just think of something positive instead. Sometimes when I'm stressed out or about to get mad at some idiot, I sing certain songs in my head and it fixes it somehow. Blind melon no rain is usually my best one hahaha

Rob_Zander ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can try to make your stop, think and ask "Why does this make me angry? How does it affect me?" Thats basically what CBT is.

E_blanc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:58:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you recognize it, you should also be able to pinpoint the exact situations you were "doing it wrong", and use logic to say to yourself "Okay, next time anything similar happens, I will try to do this wrong thing less". It's the same process as learning anything, just try to take your emotions away from every situation if possible, so you can learn objectively. That's what I am doing and it helps not to get too angry at everything, because I have the same issue as you. Sweating the small stuff too much.

ExOblivion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Smoke weed.

the_eyes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Denial.

thewrongdoor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:05:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Whenever I'm getting particularly crabby I just take someone's story that I know (friends' husband is deployed, sisters kid in the hospital for two weeks, friends dog just passed away, etc... not always super grim stuff, but you get the idea) and apply it to the person I'm trying to label as an asshole from one tiny out of context interaction. Of course I would sympathize with my friend being short with me if they've had chronic back pain for 3 weeks. Of course I couldn't stay mad at a friend accidentally cutting me off if they just got off an emotional phone call with their mom. If I had a friend beyond exhausted with a colic-y newborn I wouldn't think twice about her on the phone in the store just trying to return a call to the doctors office and not noticing her cart is in the middle of the aisle. So I just remind myself that everyone has a story going on. And when someone gives me the bird for stopping short in front of a cross walk because the sun just popped out and blinded me for a second, I just try to accept that we are seeing each other of context and don't have all the information. And some people are just assholes. But I'm choosing not to spend my emotional energy trying to create their story to justify my actions. You only have so much of that and I've got shit to do.

Denny_Craine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:29:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

What worked for me was (and still is) reminding myself that being angry helps no one, least of all me. That getting mad is just me choosing to be unhappy and wasting time and energy

That was the big thing. Realizing my emotions don't rule me. I can feel an emotion involuntarily of course, but it's my decision how I react to it.

The idea that I wasn't in charge of myself when I got angry was really the turning point

This has also helped immensely with dealing with stress and anxiety. Which are often very difficult for me to control and manage

You don't choose your feelings, but you do choose your actions. And that includes internal actions. Visualize changing the tape in your head that's telling you you're pissed and why you're pissed.

And I mean literally visualize it. Actually imagine you're physically change a cassette tape and repeat to yourself that you're not angry, you choose to be calm. Over and over again like a mantra. Breathe slow and say "I'm choosing not to get angry". Not "I shouldn't be angry", that'll only frustrate you.

"This is frustrating, but I choose not to be angry. I'm in control of my behavior. I'm in control of my thoughts. Every action I take is one I own so I choose to take good ones".

Anger is purposefully letting yourself be unhappy. Don't allow it. Your mind is your kingdom and you're the only ruler in it. Anger and fear and stress are you subjects. Not the other way around

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:30:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For me, it's a mindset. Every single human being you will ever interact with is just as human as you. They will stub their toes, hate their jobs, love people, hate people, believe irrational things, listen to logic, be terrified of growing old, worry about their future, worry about the state of the world not being their exact ideal, watch their children get married, watch their children change as they get older, and get frustrated at traffic. Life is a beautiful, multitude of experiences, and it's that way for the world. And, for me, I just remember we're all in the same boat together. All struggling, and hoping for a future better than we imagined we'd have.

misslilychan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:30:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

keep asking yourself why you're angry when it happens. like keep going until you've forgotten why you were angry in the first place. get real deep. don't stop until you're bored of asking it.

"because i made x mistake" isn't even close to deep enough.

Jupiterswrath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:32:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's probably not a unified way for this as all people are different. For me it's a combination of realizing that anger is honestly a waste of time and effort because it's usually something I cannot change, atemtping to maintain a sense of detachment and light apathy when I know I'm in a situation where I'd get angry, and in the case of people, a sense of empathy to realize where their actions possibly come from. I will say that repeated annoyances can break through this method over the course of days or weeks, so it's not fullproof for me.

PM_ME_ALL_THE_BOOBIE ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 05:16:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My former boss is like that except his life is wrapped up around his ego and intelligence. If you like a Toyota and he likes a Honda he'll enumerate why Honda is better and if you disagree you honestly feels like you just called him stupid. In his mind you're saying "you're not smart enough to see it my way, as such you're stupid" and he reacts accordingly. In reality it could be nearly literally the SAME FUCKING VEHICLE but he'd still passionately argue to the point he'd storm off and you wouldn't hear from him for months.

Decades later he's still like this but only slightly toned down. He'll still storm off but he won't name call anymore. Instead, he processes it as "well you're just being stupid and I don't have time for stupid people". He sincerely can't deal with people having a different opinion.

I've even seen him get heated about the color of a fucking car. The fucking color. "I don't see how ANYONE can like that color blue, seriously black is the only real option here and y'all just haven't thought about it as much as I have".

His life is very much wrapped around some very petty things.

zerohero8942 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 03:08:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You just described my father to a tee. He would pull shit like "politely asking" me to do something. And if replied with a reasonable answer as to why i really didnt feel like doing it THAT second but would get it done eventually he would go apeshit crazy.

Scorwegian ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:08:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

we must be siblings

throwawayblue69 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 07:55:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I mean if you father asks you to do something then just do it and get it over with. Why go through trying to put it off till later when you know it's just going to piss him off? What are you doing that's so much more important than what what he's asked you to do? I mean I'm not saying it excuses his attitude but at the same time when a patent asks you to do something just do it.

macrouge ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 02:41:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

this one is so hard to unlearn. i grew up in an angry house, i live in an angry house. it takes all my willpower and occasionally more not to preform percussive dentistry on my co workers

WiredCortex ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:12:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Upvote for Percussive Dentistry.

halfcookies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Father33 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:01:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How did you come to realize this and begin to make changes in your life? I'm umm... asking for a friend... whose wife does the same thing.

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:27:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Ndala ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:53:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is so important. My mum is actually pretty great overall with all things considered, but she has anger issues and can be very irrational, I resent this side of her after all these years. Luckily, I wasn't influenced in this way at all and I turned out being one of the least angry people I know, I think because subconsciously I hated that side of my mum when I was growing up and didn't want to be like that.

On the other hand though, she has pretty much turned my 12 year old brother into a mini clone of herself with the irrational logic and anger issues, except it's worse because it's also in the mindset of a 12 year old boy and he hasn't done any maturing yet. Those two shouting at each other pretty much every day makes it hard for me to live here since I hate being around all the anger and noise. Ironically, the only thing in the world that is guaranteed to consistently make me angry is being around their anger, it's quite toxic and I hate the feeling.

idownvotestuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:44:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This answer deserves more upvotes.

It's crucial to remember how our genes interact with the upbringing. Sometimes upbringing can act like a catalyst, but in a bad way and amplify the worst negative traits in people while others' DNA helps them be able to build walls to protect themselves.

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:08:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is so true. Anger hurts you a lot more than it hurts whatever you're mad at.

madsci ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 04:37:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That anger doesn't have to be the default reaction

And you can be wrong about something and genuinely admit your mistake and move on, without trying to win some kind of imaginary points by making yourself a martyr. My mother is still working on this one.

trippingchilly ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 05:01:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I like you, buddy.

I told my waitress today, verbatim, 'we have happy hour to bring in business, that's why we have it.'

Because she was bitching that we were too busy on a Saturday afternoon.

I've worked with literally hundreds of servers in my +10 years in service industry, and I still don't understand this attitude.

You beg for shifts, but when it's busy you hate your customers and wish they didn't come in?

I just don't get it. Money walks in the door, and I hate when servers treat them as a burden from the get-go.

I've seen so many successful servers, and so many who are consistently unsuccessful.

The thing the unsuccessful servers have in common is that they refuse to acknowledge their shortcomings. They will not believe that they're the common problem, rather than the tables.

I run a restaurant now, so I can tell people exactly how they're fucking up.

But I shouldn't have to. I should be able to expect my hires to treat the dining room with finesse and รฉlan.

My expectations are obviously unrealistic. But I had to vent because today my server was complaining about every little goddamned thing.

When she worked from 10am-4pm, and my shift was 5am-5pm.

I just lose patience listening to the griping. Some complaints are legitimate, and some aren't.

But when I work 70 hours weekly, don't come to me for sympathy when your tipped wage is significantly more than my hourly.

Fuck, I could complain about servers all day. But no one would listen, because cooks don't tolerate that shit.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:06:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a waitress I understand and feel like I can be this way. I don't mind when it's busy unless something is really fucking with my head. But even then it's a distraction. I love every table and make sure they love every second of their time there. Me personally when I walk away my smile fades and I get focused but also moody. I don't know. I love working as a waitress but sometimes I'm just not in the mood to put on a front when really I want to cry or in pain.

Elixermagus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:05:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 06:44:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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throwawayblue69 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:52:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow you are sounding more and more like the kind of person OP was talking about haha

the-mortyest-morty ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:44:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Serving is a shitty job with shitty customers. I don't blame her. I also don't believe for a second that she's making more than you are in the long run.

Give her a reason to care about her job (a living wage) and she will.

barto5 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:51:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What you just said really pissed me off!

hoopy_frood_ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:01:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Genuine question, how did you snap yourself out of this? I've tried to convince my friend for years that that's not the way it has to be but he always tells me he's just "wired" that way. Even though he's told me stories that convince me that his parents are in some way responsible for this. It's gotten so bad at times that it's threatened to break up our friendship.

lightsandcandy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:39:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think it's not something you could convince a friend to do. It has be an internal decision

sneakacat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:46:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For me, it was through the good grace of my husband sticking with me and modeling a healthy behavior. When we had a disagreement, e was civil, but I insulted and yelled at him. My form of communication was actually antiproductive. Also, I learned that yelling is a form of emotional abuse, which really rang true to me when I thought upon my childhood. The last thing I wanted to do was be the source of those same negative feelings for someone I loved.

cooljeopardyson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:55:04 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly, in the end if people want to believe that, there's not much you can do. It has to be something you want for yourself, to live a better life and enjoy it. It may be that your friend just has a lot of deeply rooted issues he's not ready to let go of yet, and in the end all you can say is hey man, I care for you, I'd like to see you live a happier life. Because in the end, you're responsible for the life you are going to live, despite how your parents fucked up. It doesn't make it fair, especially depending on what they've done, but in the end it is true.

MissKUMAbear ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:20:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I'm working on this one too. It's hard sometimes. I've gotten to the point that when I get angry for silly reasons like that I can tell my boyfriend or whoever that I am mad, to give me a minute, and apologize.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:15:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lopierdis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:15:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Am actually proud of you for being able tp let that behaviour go, I hope you have the beat of life!

Felkyr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:19:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haha. Yep. My Dad is still like this and he's nearly 50. To me, it's behaviour I left behind in highschool, and really wasn't that outrageous in my behaviour in any case. But some adults just behave like disgraceful fools. I think it becomes more of a habit that was never broken than something that's done for any valid reason.

NiceGuyJoe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:03:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just be kind to people it's fun

sageicedragonx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:15:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This. It took me a while not to feel like everyone was purposely trying to slight me. Now if people are actually slighting me I recognize it and either address it appropriately or ignore it because it's not.worth the argument.

I_h8_yo_marshmallows ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:40:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The opposite can be just as bad. I was brought up in a family where if you were angry/upset etc, no one gave a crap. Only now am I learning that emotions are normal, just try an express them honestly and assertively. Also sounds like your mum has some pretty bad control issues.

Ladylibrarian1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:03:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep, my mother feels this way and that the world is out to get her. Took me some time also to step back and put myself in the other persons shoes.

pyanes93 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:11:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like the internet

rythaman94 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:44:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents do this to me. Getting really annoying when they yell at me for really dumb shit. Everything can be fixed calmly and effectively, no need to raise emotions.

Diepolt17 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:34:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That... Actually explains a few things...

wifichick ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:59:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Me too. And put "severe frustration that looks like anger" toward everything in that bucket. Little ball of anxious anger waiting to boil over as a youth. Yeah. Don't spank or hit your kids as punishment; you take that shit to extremes and it causes damage.

ButterFlamingo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:18:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Tell that to the You Tube comment section.

monogramchecklist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:19:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents, mom especially, was always quick to anger. I had to really put a lot of effort into learning how to not be like that.

Zerotan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:16:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I disagree!

cower

fakepicasso ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:25:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Someone has a different opinion? They're telling you you're wrong and stupid and you should be pissed.

This is what my parents feel everytime I have a different opinion. They think I'm antagonising them, but really, I'm just telling the truth about something. No, I don't think you're stupid. You believe something else than I do, and I thought this conversation was purely on a platform of civil discussion. Maybe their parents taught this to them, because so far, it's been damaging on my end.

TanithRitual ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:04:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This so much this. My father was this guy. He would do this on pretty much anyone at anytime. His mother was the same way. They wouldn't talk to each other for weeks even though we lived in the basement of the house.

As I grew up I thought that this was normal behavior until I was 28. I ended up saying some really hurtful things to my dearest wife and she broke down. I felt like shit for a long time and thought I should just leave her and my not yet both daughter since I only knew how to hurt others. Luckily she brought me out of this funk and I got help. Since then I've realized that I was emotionally abusive to her, and every day I regret it.

If you're constantly angry please go get help. Message me. Talk to someone. OP is right this does lead to a shit life, and no one should have to live this way.

ItsJustJoss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:48:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Someone has a different opinion? They're telling you you're wrong and stupid and you should be pissed.

Jesus, that is my mother to a T.

frotc914 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:54:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

. Someone has a different opinion? They're telling you you're wrong and stupid and you should be pissed.

You were raised by reddit? You poor kid.

SadGhoster87 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:26:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Someone has a different opinion? They're telling you you're wrong and stupid and you should be pissed. Someone make an off hand comment that struck you the wrong way? They're assholes!

My dad has actually tried to teach me this as a lesson. He gets mad at me for "defending strangers". No, I'm saying that not everyone who inconveniences your life is either an idiot or an asshole.

loko_ono4 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:47:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My whole immediate family is like this! I stayed with my auntie for a week and it was probably one of the most relaxing weeks of my life. She helped me realise for the first time that no, it's actually not me, it's them. It's just a shame that I'm watching my sister go down that same, angry path.

Abzapp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:03:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This, a million times this. I spent so long as a teenager angry at the world haha for no reason other than they didnt agree with me. Unlearning that hate was one of the best feelings ever.

a4b ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:40:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Perhaps you could teach a few things to some of the regulars and moderators of this sub.

EnsignObvious ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:04:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have the inverse of this. My parents were always tolerant and even-tempered, which is instilled in me, but what follows is the notion that anger is always bad and that just plain isn't true. This had the adverse effect of never or rarely expressing anger outwardly and lead to bottling up feelings instead of expressing and talking about them.

Anger is a healthy emotion and there are times where it is an appropriate and justified response. But for a long time I always felt guilty about being angry as if it was something to be ashamed of.

amberyoshio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Still working on that one....

lightsandcandy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:38:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What are you doing to work on it ?

amberyoshio ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:48:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It is just an almost daily thing to remind myself that I have a lot to be happy about. Exercising makes a difference in my overall attitude and avoiding alcohol. I really do notice a big difference in my thinking when I am feeling better.

lightsandcandy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:15:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Me too. can't do anything when I'm hungry or when I've eaten crap.

It's good that you notice what helps and hurts. A lot of people can't tell the relationship between their mood and things they do

RomanticPanic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm trying to break my gfs kids of this, except their dad is the one who instills it. It's garbage

FFS you're playing a video game that involves you attacking stuff, why would you want cardboard dummies that do nothing? You're sobbing and screaming because a blue blob attacked you once are you fucking kidding whyyyyyy

TheSixthVisitor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like that's what customers are told when they call any call centre. Seriously, why do you think screaming in my ear is going to make me help you any faster, if at all if you start swearing at me? I could just hang up on you right now; there's only an hour wait from the end of the queue until you get an agent!

I have all your private information, credit cards, and other sensitive information at my fingertips. Why are you pissing me off?

breakmyfall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom did and still does this. It's hard seeing how much like her I've become, and even harder to change. Ugh.

El-Babirusa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wish I was like that instead of a pushover

drLagrangian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

as a corollary, that anger is not inherently a bad thing, and avoiding it at all costs can also be damaging to your life.

My wife grew up with too much anger like yours. I grew up with no anger.

We've realized how fucked up that was, and have learned a lot from each other.

AUS_Doug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I bet joining Reddit really confused you then.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad gets like this sometimes when he's drunk. It's impossible to have a conversation with him. When he's sober he doesn't speak at all.

Vokean ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ugh. I'm still struggling to unlearn this... Changing 20 year's worth of habit isn't easy. I've got to force myself to not rise to anger. Sometimes I just explode and then hate myself

friedkeenan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom always thinks people are being mean to her, and thus she's always angry for no reason. I'm no psychologist, but I'm pretty sure she's angry at herself most of the time, and projects that onto others and/or she expects others to be angry at her too

chrispy_bacon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

From Boston?

IrisIncarnate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My roommate is like this because her parents taught her to pretty much always be on the defensive and ready to fight. I hate it. I can't even bring up anything to her casually without her getting pissed and assuming I'm attacking her as a person.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:10:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is an awful habit I got from my dad, and I hate that I have to try to not be this way. He has such a "Get them before they get you" attitude and it really is so much nicer to not take everything so personally.

Cat-Imapittypat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Took me YEARS to unlearn this exact thing from my dramatic and unhappy parents.

Paranitis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:15:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I actually found this type thing happening to me a lot from high school until a few years back. And then I gave up drinking caffeine completely for a year and it just POOF...went away.

After that year I started drinking caffeine again and noticed the higher amounts I drank (over 2 cans of Pepsi in a day), the faster and more severe my anger and irritation at things. So now if I drink it and have had more than that amount in one day, I will wait days until drinking any more.

Murkwater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:15:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Republicans hua!

Pre downvote hell edit: I strongly associate this with my mom and she is a hardcore christian and republican... Also view is re-enforced by people like Rush Limbaugh

ThyLurker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:35:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You just explained the Reddit community in a nutshell.

HeyShayThatRhymes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:43:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh hello, are you my ex?

Minds_eye ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:03:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like this is the banner of our parents generation

Simpsonsseriesfinale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I had to be taught by people outside the house that rage and screaming aren't normal.

turnburn720 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to go to therapy to unlearn this. Stepping back for a second, I think a lot of people have anger issues. If you think about it objectively people get about so much stupid shit that they could totally fix if they just thoight about the situation rationally.

animeniak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:27:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

On the flip side, growing up never being allowed to express anger, it just bottles up inside and makes you irritable. Seething in unventable rage is no way to live either.

LegosasXI ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:42:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Man, you just described almost every Reddit commenter.

yungmung ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:49:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What about stuff in the past? I usually find that at the current moment when I've been wronged, I don't react out of place. But if I let my thoughts brood, I usually find myself wishing that Dylan can instead go fuck himself for fucking my car up. I find myself wanting to forgive but at the end of the day I'd rather much travel the more petty way and sucker punch him in the face instead. How do I let go of shit like this?

cooljeopardyson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:42:13 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Self conditioning, and it takes a while. Sometimes a long while. In the end, it's more about doing it for yourself and saying, you know, people may have fucked me over and some shit has gone bad, but if I keep letting myself stay angry about it and dwell on it, it's letting it/them win. The best revenge, even against the world, is to try and be as happy as you can despite whatever is going on. Obviously, this doesn't apply to all and/or severe situations, but if you can do it as much as possible, you're going to be the one winning.

yungmung ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:04:21 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks man, I appreciate the solid advice.

cooljeopardyson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:46:28 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're welcome, hope it's helpful. :)

sabrefudge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:49:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow, I wanted to put a quote from your comment in this reply to bounce off of, but I couldn't choose just one sentence to use. Your whole comment perfectly sums up so many people in my life.

I'm not that way, at least I try not to be, but being around people like that is so stressful and awful at times.

I just don't know what to do.

Bataranger999 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:06:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes

jadesaddiction ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:19:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Different with me. I was taught to be complacent at all times until I got walked all over. Then I discovered the Internet and punk music and cable and I realized that it is okay to be angry if something is really upsetting you, and it's okay to speak your mind. I'm still a bundle of anxiety and polite, but I've had my moments and it feels great.

potatoslasher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:00:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

my sister for some reason acts like this......which is strange since neither my mom, dad nor I (her older brother) are like that.

agumonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:02:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Only recently I realized how parents flaws go undetected in their children eyes, until they realize they have them too. Repressed desires, emotions, blind communication (talk but no listen), anger, no apologies, comfort zone only...

Our gigantic, hyper fluid, anonymising societies aren't helping us a bit here.

TheUglyBarnacle42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:14:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know people IRL who got raised with this attitude

lizardflix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:29:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This. The world is out to get you.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:44:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Anger is only the correct response while driving.

robertx33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:57:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The worst is, when you do everything correctly, like clean the house, do chores, listen to orders.. nobody notices or cares. But say no to one order or forget 1 thing.. even if it doesn't matter and you can do it in 5 minutes, you're an idiot, only think about yourself, lazy etc.

up48 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:26:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh good lord, I feel that too.

Basically my whole family has anger management problems, and it definitely carried over into me.

As a result I have become incredibly passive and somewhat reserved, which is not great either, it's hard to find a balance.

xerxesbeat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:33:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

How many times can you subtract 0 from 0 and get the result 0? Infinite. How many times must you retract 0 from 0 to get 0? 0. If you subtract 0 from 0, how many (more + 1 (the original)) times must you repeat this to obtain 0 as a result? 1.

0/0 = 0 = 1 = Infinity

Contradiction is logic. (sans semantics, anyway)

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:37:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's just a typical American reaction though

DankoJones84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:03:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

This is my father, absolutely. He was always right. If you disagreed with him about anything, you were wrong and stupid and this angered him greatly. It took me a long time to learn how not to be a selfish, hateful, closed-minded asshole like him.

NotDido ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:37:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a friend in high school who was exactly like this. It was exhausting. She learned it from her mom, too, because whenever something innocuous really pushed her over the edge, her mom would come in and verbally beat the shit out of the administration no matter how little sense it made. Dropped her real quick after graduation.

BigGrizzDipper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:39:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You must know my wife

NATESOR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:04:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

90% of gaming communities are still learning this one

WiredEgo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:52:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I ended up too far in the opposite direction because I had so many sisters that it was either get into an argument and they get their way or just accept that they get their way and suck it up.

It fucks me over regularly because I routinely opt to not care about shit and just cater to someone else's decision instead of voicing my opinion. It actually has affected relationships because girls get tired of it when I constantly say I don't care and let them make all the decisions.

I've started voicing my opinions more and standing up for myself and I've definitely run into people who refuse to compromise their position or admit any fault or at least try to understand and empathize which is frustrating, but I guess that's life.

BT_Valkyrie ยท 1302 points ยท Posted at 22:52:33 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That shouting at/getting violent towards your problems is the only way to deal with things.

Beeker_McSqueaker ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 23:03:11 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Occasionally it works, but more often than not it simply gets a person in trouble. Trying to use it every, single time is just silly.

wrathy_tyro ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:04:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'd like to speak to your manager.

BT_Valkyrie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:04:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bring the CEO down here right now.

Gig472 ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 02:59:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Can confirm. Tried to get out of a speeding ticket by shooting the officer and stealing his car. Was caught, tazed, and raped in jail. 2*/10 points, would not recommend.

Edit: after some consideration I have decided to give it a 2/10 as while being tazed I was able to achieve orgasm.

Edit: added punctuation for clarity.

doobsftw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:10:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

2/10 would NOT recommend, therefore 8/10 would recommend? Brb going to get speeding ticket

Garglebutts ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:27:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The 2/10 is a rating and the "would not recommend" is a small summary. It's not "2/10 people would not recommend", it's "2/10 points, would not recommend".

SmoothieGeneral ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:29:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I really wish I never learned this from my old man. My girlfriend hates when I talk about fights I used to get into or certain ways I dealt with the motherfucker who smashed a pumpkin on my car two years ago.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:01:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hits hard. I can almost script the arguments my parents escalate into and they follow it almost to the very words.

BT_Valkyrie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:56:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The same words and themes come up a lot for me as well.

RobertNAdams ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:17:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think it's okay, but only towards inanimate objects. It's just tradition.

"Okay we'll just nudge this and- MOTHERFUCKER, HAND TIGHT! THE FUCKING LUG NUTS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE HAND TIGHT AND THESE FUCKING COCKSUCKERS FUCKED IT UP LIKE A BUNCH OF SHIT-FLINGING oh there it goes. Aaand done."

DangersVengeance ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:54:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Found a physical engineer. I do the same, there's not a single nut, bolt or connector I've not insulted on most of my builds

RobertNAdams ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:35:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Computer serviceman, actually. But yeah. :P

bugdog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:44:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've cussed more HP cases than the law probably allows. Those first fuckers they put out were total shit. The screws stripped out if you gave them a harsh look.

BT_Valkyrie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:00:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty much, yeah. Its quite cathartic if you keep it away from people and have some restraint.

Pancake_Bucket ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:30:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was taught that if I'm stubborn enough, complain enough, and never back down, I could get what I want. They didn't teach me to be violent, but rather to be obnoxious.

Line too long for the roller coaster? Walk up the exit and complain. They'll seat you right away. As a child, that was fun. As an adult, it makes me cringe.

BT_Valkyrie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:52:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mine had a similar attitude, they dislike being on the receiving end though.

2booshie101 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:48:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

After leaving my abusive husband I spent a long time teaching this to my kids. It's a work in progress but we're getting there

BT_Valkyrie ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:50:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Congratulations on leaving him, I know it can be tough.

tiattiattiat ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:36:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

My ex's family used to do this. They would fucking scream at each other, call each other the most despicable shit and then not talk for 2 days. But then after that, they were all good and just pretended it never happened until the next time they had some sort of fight.

Their whole family was super childish. They would regularly storm out of the room from eachother and slam doors. All of them. I can't imagine doing this. I think the last time I stormed out of a room and slammed a door I was 8 years old. It's about as mature as stamping your feet. I know I shouldn't judge but I blame her mother, she wasn't a good mother and the father wasn't properly in the picture.

I have the exact opposite approach. If something seems bad, I'll be like "Hey. This doesn't seem good, how do we make this bad thing less bad and more good?" and then approached things that way til she had calmed down or something.

One time she went off on me and said that she "hated me" because "I never get angry" and that because of this "any of our problems never got sorted. they just kind of stay here forever". She seriously asked "Why don't you just blow up and get mad and then everything would get better so much quicker?"

I don't even know man. Fucking nutcase. Glad I got outta that one.

BT_Valkyrie ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:42:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shit, sounds pretty rough. I tried the "hey let's make this less bad" approach once; I was just laughed at and called a child.

TandalfB ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:16:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

their lack of understanding is impressive to me. How can she avoid realising that the anger itself is 80% of the problem?

spiritbx ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:42:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Getting violent is what people do when they aren't smart enough to win an argument with words.

BT_Valkyrie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:59:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

True, I try and hold a similar attitude to myself. Knowing that I can sometimes default to it though, despite trying, I try not to judge others on it.

poopwithjelly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:19:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You say that but, "If you continue to say Trump is a good candidate, I will knock you teeth out" is the only response to, "Hillary is untrustworthy and Trump is the better candidate, and he's rich".

Vleda ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:03:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They both suck ass. Break your countries retarded false-dichotomy by voting for a 3rd party.
Seriously, you guys are struggling to choose between a criminal and bigot when there are other options on the table.

poopwithjelly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:56:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you want to throw your vote in the garbage you can do that. The rest of us will compromise and meet on someone who doesn't hold less than, a very optimistic, 10% of the vote.

Vleda ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:37:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So what you're saying is that you might as well not vote? To the rest of the world the other two candidates are terrifying. It's like someone found a way to dial Hitler down a few notches and split him into two people.

poopwithjelly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Go for it. Jill Stein and whoever else are not too much better, and it wastes your vote. You do realize that jumping everyone to Hitler is excessive polarization, right?

DoggoInTheMachine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why is winning an argument through the strength of your mind better than through the strength of your body? It seems like that's a consequence of an upper class sense of elitism, where the poor are usually laborers.

spiritbx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

2+3=5 because I can demonstrate it using proper evidence and logic.

2+3=6 because if you say otherwise I'll break your legs.

With our current technologies we should be able to teach everyone science regardless of wealth.

DoggoInTheMachine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Right, that makes sense. I thought you were saying that getting violent is never an acceptable means of getting your way. Not in a logical argument context but like in an argument about land rights, or laws.

drunk98 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:44:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

THIS IS BULLSHIT! No seriously, I won't even talk to people that do this.

BT_Valkyrie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:04:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If someone starts it on me, I'll just shut it out and not engage them. From experience, it makes you realise more effectively that you're the dick.

astralrenascence ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:10:11 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel this. Still struggling as an adult from that example.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:54:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You've never done any software development, have you? LOL

BT_Valkyrie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:01:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I make games. It's mostly directed at me though because I've been careless early on in the project.

sodakid1919 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:44:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you're dealing with a bad router I can guarantee that threatening it with violence always works.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:27:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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BT_Valkyrie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:55:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That sucks, I'm sorry. Mine were like that except the doctor's word was final fortunately. It bit them in the ass a few times when they tried to nudge the doctor into saying I was faking it or being dramatic.

Genocide_Bingo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:24:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN YOU UTTER CUNT!?!

silverpanther17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:08:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As an engineer, I can assure you "Where's the fucking thing it was right ther- oh there it is" is 90% of the process. I'm not really angry, it's just stress management before anything else.

lumpymattress ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:31:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You mean it isn't

muraenae ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Every parent other than my mom has yelled at me when they got angry. Now I'm trying to unlearn it, but it's really hard.

BT_Valkyrie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:04:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I catch myself acting like that towards my little brother and it kills me every time. Just need to keep at it though and be aware it's happening.

burg3rb3n ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Boston or New York?

BT_Valkyrie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Liverpool.

Fuggilification ยท 4890 points ยท Posted at 01:27:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

My dad thought it was funny to teach my sister, brother and I the wrong names to things.

Sister confuses plates and bowls Brother confuses forks and spoons I get confused with Beetroot and capsicum.

I get it right most of the time now.

Edit: I haven't seen dogtooth (never heard of it until today) Yes I'm Aussie
Dad wasn't abusive, it was a funny prank on his children. I still love him.

Klondike3 ยท 1874 points ยท Posted at 03:35:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"We trained him wrong, as a joke."

beaverteeth92 ยท 130 points ยท Posted at 07:59:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"HOW ABOUT MY NUTS TO YOUR FIST STYLE?!"

Basoran ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:00:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The kung pow is strong with this one.

ThouHumblestDude ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 06:44:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"I was hoping that one day I could be the chosen one."

Rano_Orcslayer ยท 79 points ยท Posted at 06:32:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"If you've got an ass, I'll kick it!"

iamanis ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 08:09:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm bleeding. making me the victor.

Kome824 ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 06:44:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eyyy Kung Pow reference. Time to rewatch

my_fellow_earthicans ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:02 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Reddit doesn't disappoint. 1 of my fave movies.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:13:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you got a problem yo I'll solve it, check out the hook while the DJ revolves it

gimmeboost ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 07:56:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"From now on you will all refer to me as Betty. Nyahaha."

edrz ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:08:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But isn't that a woman's name?

little_Shepherd ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:02:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Now, now. We don't want to lose anymore toes, here!

ScaryHobo ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 06:46:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Weeeee-ooooo!

GameOnDevin ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 06:04:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That'll show him.

drunk98 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:43:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haha! We called pencils dildos, cats house lions, & bicycles Mexican go-carts.

Bongo_Muffin ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 13:36:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

HE'S ON THE WAY TO THE TEMPLE. WITH NUTS

Dayofsloths ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 12:36:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Poor Nail, maybe if I had trained him in the new way, he would have a chance."

XenuLies ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:36:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Nail, prepare to retrieve the Dragon Ball,

...and the body"

tufeomadre24 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:10:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I swear to god, if his shoes squeak one more time...

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 11:45:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"How did you like my my-face-into-your-foot technique! Just wait until you see my my-nutsack-into-your-fist technique!"

powersje1 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 12:44:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's just a prank bro

PythonCry ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 12:01:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
  • Hitler's Mom
TheTangeMan ยท 2097 points ยท Posted at 03:15:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My friend referred to parmesan cheese as "sprinkle cheese" until he was well into his teens because of his mom

[deleted] ยท 2507 points ยท Posted at 03:19:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That stuff in the jar isn't really Parmesan, so you might as well call it sprinkle cheese.

CupcakesOnMyFace ยท 156 points ยท Posted at 03:41:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

... I also call it sprinkle cheese

Nachofizz ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 06:35:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Me too

musicalbacon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:00:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I live by New York. I say sprinkle cheese, and every time I do all of the New York Italians i know tease me mercilessly.

chanaleh ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 06:59:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We call it shaker cheese.

[deleted] ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 09:02:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shakey cheese here

doubledubs ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 13:19:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've found my people!

sweetlavinia ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:11:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There are literally dozens of us.

carelessbannedmycock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:20:40 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ARe you from the midwest?

doubledubs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:31:24 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah. Missouri.

carelessbannedmycock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:45 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Seems like its a weirdly midwestern thing to call items, that already have perfectly good names, a more literal, more folksy name. I have a friend who called a drill a screw gun.

zackkitzmiller ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:22:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

SHAKEY CHEESE CHECKING IN.

[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 11:30:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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december14th2015 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:40:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shake cheese lasts six months in your house?

Cobbleking32486 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:24 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And it goes in the fridge?

leventdunord ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:01:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Came here to say that. It's shaker cheese

Laurifish ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:48:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We have sprinkly cheese, but it is shredded cheddar that you buy in a bag.

cogenix ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:33:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

oh dear

GoopyVagina ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 10:26:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's shaker cheese you fucking caveman.

monstrinhotron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:43:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

oh god. i realized i've taught this to my daughter about the ready grated stuff we buy.

_The_Real_Guy_ ยท 180 points ยท Posted at 05:15:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sprinkle Pulp. "Cheese" is a stretch.

EDIT: Make America Grate Again.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:14:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"The TexMexicans are sending their worst, rapists, drug dealers, and some, I assume, are good people."

BeefSamples ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 04:48:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know people that call the fresh grated stuff sprinkle cheese. Like will actually request sprinkle cheese in a nice italian place. Enough people call it that, that they know to break out the parmesan

Crocoduck_The_Great ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 12:55:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've never heard anyone call it sprinkle cheese before and now we have people calling the fresh stuff that???

BeefSamples ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:13:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yah. I find it really irritating.

asswipies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:47 on September 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This made me cringe

BeefSamples ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:53:17 on September 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It makes me cringe too

abngeek ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 04:08:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

isn't really Parmesan

The same (probably) holds true if it's labeled "Parmesan".

LvLupXD ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 05:13:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe a bit of wood pulp too

methoxhead ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:53:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I call it nail clippings

[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 06:49:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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Katyafan ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:37:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

this!!!! i can only eat shaved parmesan since i started using a ped-egg!!!

doubledubs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:20:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

GROSS

you_got_fragged ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:50:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Have cheese on demand

Freshlaid_Dragon_egg ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:24:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

fresh shaved parm is the shit.

Antice ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:02:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not everything that melts is cheese....

noscope360gokuswag ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:33:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hey anythings better than actually writing "90% wood pulp"

shortsj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:40:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad always called the stuff in the jar spider eggs. I was deathly afraid of spiders. I didn't put cheese on my spaghetti for years

cmd-t ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:50:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

On r/gifrecipes, the ingredients always list parmezan or mozzarella, but that stuff they put in isn't either of those things.

theshaolinbear ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:50:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
cmd-t ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:17:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, thanks.

spiritbx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:34:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh snap!

DrBunnyflipflop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:39:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The "sprinkly" "parmesan" you get here is actually Parmisiano Regiano. Apparently.

evilmoocow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:32:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I called it smelly cheese up until year 5 and was so confused by wtf Parmesan was when offered at friends houses

asswipies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:41:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Too true

DSAW517 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:40:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In my house we called it sandy cheese.

linwail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:02:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What is it then?

BeastftMiddleEast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:17:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What about the stuff in the little packets?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:46:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought there was a synthetic, in a jar or in a can version of everything in America

missaeiska ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:48:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I always thought I just hated parmesan cheese because all I knew growing up was the powdered stuff. My ex introduced me to real shredded parmesan and it was like night and day.

Clutter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:59:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shake cheese had no right being called parmesan.

joyhammerpants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:45:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I knew a kid who pronounced it parm-me-zee-anne.

sean7755 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:07:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What is it?

Captaincrip ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can we really call it cheese?

vmlinux ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sprinkle wood pulp filler.

december14th2015 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:41:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Isn't it mostly salted wood pulp?

um_no_way_du ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:38 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We call it cheesey salt.

Doctah_Whoopass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:07:51 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Its not, but I still like it. Our family buys wedges of parmesan and grates it ourselves.

owningmclovin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:13 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh my gawd that shit doesn't even need to be kept cold.

Might as well make your Alfredo with wax

cocohobbs ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
garboooo ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 08:08:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Did you read the article besides the moronic false headline? It's not wood pulp, it's cellulose, an incredibly common dietary fiber.

Noble_Flatulence ยท -14 points ยท Posted at 08:55:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If by "dietary" you mean it's commonly eaten because it's in food then yes, you're right. Other than that you're wrong. It's not food, it's not even digestible by humans. And it comes from wood that has been pulped. Wood pulp in your food is not the same as dietary fiber.

garboooo ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 09:06:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

So taurine is bull pee and cyanide is an apple? That's not how it works. Cellulose might be extracted from wood pulp, but it is not wood pulp.

Also, of course it isn't digestible. If you knew what you were talking about you'd know that "Dietary fiber or roughage is the indigestible portion of food derived from plants." And I took that from Wikipedia, so you didn't even spend ten seconds looking.

Later down the page: "Chemically, dietary fiber consists of non-starch polysaccharides such as arabinoxylans, cellulose, and many other plant components such as resistant starch, resistant dextrins, inulin, lignin, chitins, pectins, beta-glucans, and oligosaccharides."

sluad ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:20:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This...is just dumb. I'm not even going to go into it because you're so far off of anything close to being right.

Noble_Flatulence ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 09:24:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Except that it's absolutely correct.

garboooo ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 09:35:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I like how you'll reply to him, but not to me proving you wrong

sluad ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:32:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Except that the other dude who replied straight up shat on the bs you pulled out of your ass, and you're an even bigger retard for trying to stick with it. Nice try, though.

sluad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:57:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, that's what I thought, buddy.

Bobloblawlawblog79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wood pulp yo...

Dreamanimus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family called it "shakey cheese". Although, we knew the real name for it too. "Shakey cheese" was just easier for three young kids to remember than parmesan was.

ClintHammer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:29:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

it's usually grated Parmesan, Romano, and de-caking agent. You can actually buy Parmesan if you're into it, but it usually comes in actual glass jars, and not cardboard tubes

Rather_Unfortunate ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:09:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Doesn't it come in actual wedges of cheese? That's how it's sold in the UK.

Incidentally, if we lose the EU food naming laws over the referendum result, I'm going to be so pissed. This thread is highlighting why it's so important to force manufacturers to accurately label their products.

ClintHammer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:14:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Parmesan is made in wheels. They either then slice them or grate them

England must have really made some weird tech choices after metulurgy if they have vertical take off jet fighter technology but cheese grater technology still eludes them

Rather_Unfortunate ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:38:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lol, it means it costs less and lasts longer! Whereas pre-grated parmesan (as opposed to "grated Italian hard cheese", which lasts months thanks to preservatives and dessicants) will go unusably mouldy after a few days to a week or so even in the fridge, a block of parmesan can last a month or more, and you can cut off small bits of mould anyway. 200g costs less than ยฃ3, but 50g of grated parmesan costs about ยฃ1.50.

I mean, a proper carbonara recipe needs more than twice the amount of parmesan that is even in pre-grated bags.

ClintHammer ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:44:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

you don't know what you're talking about. Grated Parmesan and Romano last longer because they are dried. Europeans are so ridiculously superstitious about food, and the EU is actively working against your best interests as a consumer, especially when it comes to protectionism of German seed companies.

Rather_Unfortunate ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:04:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't see how it's anti-consumer at all. It gives us more choice and control over what we eat. If we want parmesan, we get real parmiggiano reggiano. If we're less fussed, we can get cheaper pecorino romano which doesn't have the same taste, or even just naff "hard cheese".

Same for cumberland sausages versus others, or champagne versus prosecco or other sparkling wines. Prosecco has now overtaken champagne sales here because people realised they actually love it, but once upon a time it would all have been just called champagne. And because prosecco and other sparkling wines are cheaper, champagne prices have also been forced down to remain competitive. It's very much pro-consumer.

ClintHammer ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:11:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't see how it's anti-consumer at all. It gives us more choice and control over what we eat.

Provided it's on the list of what is allowed. Any kind of restriction is restrictive by nature of the thing.

If we want parmesan, we get real parmiggiano reggiano. If we're less fussed, we can get cheaper pecorino romano which doesn't have the same taste, or even just naff "hard cheese".

In the US we have all that and more. The ingredients are listed. We can also have cheaper products because dairy cows can be fed cheaper more efficient grains because we can utilize that spooooooooky GMO corn that is banned in Europe because the spoooooooky magic in it scares ignorant people.

Prosecco has now overtaken champagne sales here because people realised they actually love it, but once upon a time it would all have been just called champagne.

That sounds like customer ignorance, which seems to be rampant in the EU. Also I'm not sure how that's relevant because in the US it can only be called champagne if it's from there.

It's very much pro-consumer.

Saying you can't use better seeds because they're not made by Bayer is the opposite of pro-consumer. It's protectionism and anti consumer.

Rather_Unfortunate ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:23:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait, what? I think we're talking past each other here. I'm on about food naming laws, not food standards laws. It's true that we have more stringent food standards, and that GM foods are stupidly restricted. But that has nothing to do with what kinds of cheese are allowed to be called parmesan.

ClintHammer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:27:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

the stuff that people call Parmesan in the US don't say that on the container unless they are made that way. You're getting confused with Romano which doesn't mean anything other than it has to be legally up to snuff to be called cheese and be hard.

If it's something else it has to be called "Cheese topping" or something. You're confusing a colloquial label for actual labeling.

methoxhead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I call it nail clippings

CaIIous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:57:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow...first Kraft singles and now this. Honestly worse than learning there's no Santa...

bluedanes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents always called it "stinky foot cheese"

kanuck84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:16:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cheese-flavoured sprinkles, actually. Calling it 'cheese' is a step too far.

KJ6BWB ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:23:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

True, all Parmesan cheese contains some amount of cellulose.

Gezzer52 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:58:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No. Most if not all of the pre grated/shredded cheeses contain cellulose because it acts as a anti-clumping agent. AFAIK parmesan in block form doesn't contain any.

KJ6BWB ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:12:57 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The FDA suggests 1% would be enough for that, and recommends going no higher than 3%-4%. Kraft and Walmart have apparently been going as high as 10%.

So, no, it's not just an anti-clumping agent. It's definitely being used as filler.

Gezzer52 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:13 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sure, they have to have a method to make a cheaper product cheap don't they. My initial response was more to the statement that all cheeses have cellulose in them regardless of what type of cheese. And as I said in the post you're responding to, AFAIK block cheese doesn't have any cellulose in it... yet.

As for cellulose itself it's not as bad as people might think, unlike something like red slime. It's just a term for plant derived fiber, and passes right through the body. In fact for some people who don't get enough fiber in their diet it might even help. But it's a cheap additive, really cheap, and a bit deceptive in how it makes a poor quality product seem better.

BeefHazard ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:47:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Depends of you buy parmesan (Grana/Reggiano) or "parmesan" (American made crap). In the EU, the word parmesan is protected and only cheese from the region of Emiglia Romana is to be sold as parmesan. This cheese is mostly sold as a chunk. The chunk is only made of raw milk, that's where the taste comes from. American made cheese is extremely processed stuff with a lot of stuff added to it that shouldn't be there.

Source: am EU resident who really fucking loves cheese and got very disappointed in the US

Gezzer52 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:54:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh yeah, it's processed crap all right, but the cellulose is AFAIK a product of the need of an anti-clumping agent only.

TheFox51 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:41:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

then my ex was made of parm....wait, cellulose or cellulite?

sweetlavinia ยท 97 points ยท Posted at 03:32:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We just straight up call it "Shakey Cheese" at our house.

_Fiffs_ ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:45:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here, shakey cheese 4 lyfe

beepbeepitsajeep ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:53:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We dem shakey cheese boiz. I do call it Parmesan in front of people though.

zombie_bear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:44:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm glad I'm not the only one. I get weird looks when saying "pass the shakey cheese"

my_stacking_username ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:29:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Keep your jeans high and tight

filmisfum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:55:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mine too. My sister will grow up never knowing what it's actually called... unless she bothers to read the jar.

DarthRegoria ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:56:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In my house we called it smelly sock cheese, for obvious reasons.

Likesorangejuice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:01:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not exactly the same, but Shaker Cheese. So close it might as well count. That's what all of my roommates called it in university. My dad preferred synthetic cheese and my mom just called it smelly cheese.

whiiteout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My household just called it "shake shake", and I fucking love shake shake. Took me years to realize it was (allegedly) the same thing as normal parmesan cheese

firebird27 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:42:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My sister is 21 and still calls ramen "curly soup" :/

[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:03:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I luff chikkens

theoreticaldickjokes ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 03:50:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My friend used the phrase "pasta sugar" today, and now that is my new favorite thing.

With-a-Cactus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:33:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom put sugar in her pasta sauce. Growing up I could never figure out why her spaghetti tasted so much better than everyone elses.

Lady_Generic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:28:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My little boy calls it sugar.

BabyJourney ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:45:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oooh now I want to eat pasta with sugar and sour cream... Hnnng.

jencongreen ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:43:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, when I started school, I realized I basically had to reteach myself how to talk. Sprinkle cheese, pizza cheese, and white ice cream are not how people really talk. It's parmesan, mozzarella, and vanilla. Not to mention I'm "fixin to" do something. Plus some racist stuff I didn't even understand!

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:28:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Does fixin to means about to?

jencongreen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:26:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes. I'm "fixin to" eat breakfast. I'm going to or about to eat breakfast.

Mysterious_X ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It can, but in my experience it's often closer to "want to"

FrancisCastiglione12 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 04:49:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Definitely means "about to" or "going to"

Mysterious_X ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:05:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ah, guess my dad just changed his mind a lot, because quite a few of the things he was 'fixin to do' didn't happen

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:34:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nah, it's more like, "I'm getting ready to." Grew up using that phrase.

"I'm fixin' to go. Ya ready?"

wehavethebestreddits ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:05:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

white ice cream

This is the craziest thing I've seen in this thread so far.

wigsternm ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:54:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Fixin' to" is just a regional thing. There's no real reason to change it. It'd be like calling coke pop, or pop soda.

Morjor ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:44:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The all time most embarrassing thing that ever happened to me:

In eighth grade, I had never had honey mustard, but we always made it to put on sausages. So when I was hosting a bunch of my friends, I referred to it as "special sausage sauce". I have been nicknamed honey mustard for 3 years, with no sign of letting up.

REDDITATO_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:56:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was going to say "Don't worry, you're young. There's plenty of time for more embarrassing things to happen to you." but thinking about it, "special sausage sauce" is pretty tough to beat.

thebondoftrust ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:08:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You have really nice friends not to nickname you Special Sausage Sauce.

dinosaur_apocalypse ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:22:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not necessarily wrong. My family interchanges parmesan cheese and "sprinkle cheese." You sprinkle it onto your food, so why not? And it's different than shredded cheese. Though sometimes (rarely) we call shredded cheese "sprinkle cheese."

The true crime here is when my mom calls that low fat crap she buys "sharp cheese." It's not sharp, FFS; it's plastic.

rainbow_hair ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:33:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We call it sprinkle cheese because they called it that on an episode of Daniel Tiger's Neighborhood and my kids latched onto the name. Now other people look at me like I'm nuts when I slip up and call it that.

R-nd- ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:18:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My step mum calls it stinky foot cheese. Us Canadians also call "American" cheese, processed cheese.

zinzam72 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:28:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ugh, me too, but my family called it "shake cheese."

DieArschgeige ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:33:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mine too!

MidgetMonkeyMan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:49:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was a kid my mom called it sprinkle cheese as well because I didn't understand whenever she called it parmesan cheese. Nice to see someone else out there calls it sprinkle cheese as well.

BeefSamples ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know people in their 30's that call it sprinkle cheese.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We called it "shaky cheese"

Kitcat36 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:14:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My old college roommate called it "shaker cheese"

IAMAcleverguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom used to refer to ear wax as potatoes. She would say things like "clean those potatoes out of your ears so you can hear better" and "wow you've got a whole potato farm growing in there."

I knew they weren't actual potatoes, but well into high school I was unaware that it was called ear wax and not "ear potatoes"

Thanks mom

alicethe_mushroomeat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I still do this and I'm 26! ... also called " stinky cheese"...

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Shakey cheese" in my house

test_tickles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:44:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"shakey cheese" here.

GarnetMonsoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We called hair ties/hair bands...."Bow hairs."

I still do it every now and then because she literally never corrects me. She thinks it's cute. Maybe when I was 5.

rubyreddorothy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We call it shake cheese...

Cheesesammich4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We called it "shakey cheese"...

pumpkinbot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We call parmesan "sprinkle cheese" for our niece. Used to be "snow cheese". If we call it a weird name she doesn't recognize, she'd adamantly refuse to eat it. The difference between "chicken strips" and "chicken nuggets" to her is huge.

Of course, my niece is three. Once she's old enough to properly identify foods she likes and actually try things, we'll call things by their proper name. But until then, every kind of meat we serve has to be called "chicken" if we expect her to actually eat.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I still find myself calling it that. Old habits die hard.

NarcolepticDraco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:10:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family referred to it as stinky cheese. I still occasionally refer to it as such.

CaityCait88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:11:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When we were kids we called the green Kraft can of Parmesan "sprinkle cheese" too. Until of course we got real Parmesan and never went back.

saltypony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I still refer to that stuff as shaky cheese.

emmmysaurus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wasn't aware that it was ever really supposed to be called anything else!

jamiejokes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:31:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family has called it "stinky cheese" forever! I didn't know it was parmesan until I was 8 or 9.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:36:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

American cheese slices is and always will be paper cheese. Grapes are purple whatevers or glapes.

dancercjt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We call it "shake," no clue why. I still call it that, especially when I'm home.

skellyclique ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Red pepper flakes are ' pizza shaky flakes' in my family

zigmus64 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:57:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought it was called "stinky feet cheese"

contrarian1970 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The cheaper kind contains actual sawdust, so technically the word "sprinkle" may be more accurate than "parmesan" for what's inside that little plastic cylinder.

leedbug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:05:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought Carl's Jr. was called "Star Place" when I was little. My parents never corrected me. It wasn't until high school when I was wondering what happened to all the Star Places when I realized. The bus I was on happened to drive pissed a Carl's Jr. "Phttt! Look at Carl's Jr. trying to be Star Place.... Oh. Wait... :/ "

Cylon_Toast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:18:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think that's adorable.

Bublovesdabs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:55:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My niece calls parmesan "parmish" because that what my dad calls it.

TheKiwiKnight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:59:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You think sprinkle cheese is bad, I called it dirty sock cheese until high school...

maozedung ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:04:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's weird because my mom and dad always called it that and then randomly started calling it grated cheese.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:10:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I babysat for this family for a while who called it "shaky cheese". I adopted it and made it my own.

comfortable_madness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:28:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a friend in junior high/high school who, up until our mid-twenties when we drifted apart, would call the remote control a calculator. Lol. Every time he'd say it when we were in a group hanging out, we'd laugh. Every single time. He said when he was learning to talk, calculator was easier to say than remote, which made absolutely no sense to anyone. He also had a weird name for fire trucks but I don't remember what it was.

Da_Boom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:44:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

we had a different name for it: smelly cheese..

ahh the memories: Mum can i have some smelly cheese?

CravingSunshine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:04:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It is sprinkle cheese.

Amateur_Ninja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:24:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad straight up misheard it. He thought it was "Farmer John cheese" for well over a decade.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:26:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a friend who called Parmesan "par-me-zee-un" and even though I've only heard it a handful of times i still occasionally fuck up and say it instead.

polerberr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:27:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My and my boyfriend call it shakey cheese, because you shake the tube over your pasta. We're in our 20s.

blessedpepe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:28:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought barrettes were "hair clippies" until I was, like, 10.

Crazycatlover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:37:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family calls it "green cheese" because it usually comes in green containers. Mom and Dad both got promotions when I was in my early teens and switched to buying fresh parmesan and grating it at home. That they called parmesan. So now I've got it in my mind that nice/fresh parmesan = parmesan and cheap stuff = green cheese. Since no one else in the world seems to share this lexicon, it's rather useless.

barnzwallace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:48:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It was "grown up cheese" in my house

goldiebam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:09:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My whole family calls it "stinky cheese" I was 22 when I finally realized that wasn't normal

TonyBones81 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:15:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Because of its scent, my brother used to call it "stinky-feet cheese," so my mother started to also, and we all kind of picked it up after a while.

ferminriii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:27:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You mean shaker cheese?

22rana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:28:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My sister and I grew up calling it 'oc cheese' because as a baby that's the sound my sister made when she ate it. 'Oc'

MumBum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:53:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My kids call it stinky cheese and it confuses waiters and waitresses.

SoggyMcGriddle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:01:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I call it sprinkle cheese. I don't know where it came from but that's what I refer to it as.

IrisParker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:04:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Although we were taught that it is really parmesan, we have always called it sprinkle cheese. Doesn't matter that my siblings are all approaching 30.

Lady_Digress ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:11:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had that issue too, along with calling neapolitan Napoleon

Aparty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:19:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We always called it 'stinky cheese'

manitoulove ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:24:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My niece used to call it spaghetti pepper. When she was 3.

wolfpack12392 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:26:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's a new one. I have a brother, name of John, who became convinced at 3 years old that it was "Farmer John" cheese. Took years to convince him otherwise.

dented_beetle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:27:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I called it "shakey cheese" the other day while talking to a co-worker. She was very confused

rurixsama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:35:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We called it stinky cheese. Or foot cheese. Never put it on anything until my step-dad showed us what it goes and that it is delicious but smells awful.

ctindel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:35:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a kid I never learned "over easy" I would just tell my dad i wanted "poke eggs".

alkakfnxcpoem ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:40:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's how I got my two year old to eat pasta. Worked like a charm. Kid is crazy for sprinkles.

hates_poopin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:44:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We call it shakey cheese :)

Pomqueen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:15:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Um it is sprinkle cheese! .... if it's a can that lets you sprinkle it. And it's just a cooler name.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:19:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm going to teach my kids to call it dandruff cheese now.

Stormsoul22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:22:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait it's not called that?

eyejustloveit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:29:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a friend who referred to it as "Farmer John" cheese because of his dad calling it that as a joke lol

LegitLemur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:32:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We call it shakey cheese!

Dangerous_Daveo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:42:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad calls it camel shit. Probably a fairly accurate description to be fair.

PrincessStudbull ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:51:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My kids call string cheese, "zipper cheese" and have since they were toddlers. They're 10,10, and 8 now. I call it zipper cheese because they did. Zipper cheese makes just as much sense as string cheese, dammit.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:58:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It was cheese salt in our house.

canadian_maplesyrup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:05:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

hahaha. I wonder if you're friends with my brother, as thats what my family called it. I still call it that when I'm home. Though we never had the green jar stuff. Mom always bought good quality parmesan and put it in her own sprinkle container.

KixStar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:08:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We call shredded cheese "sprinkle cheese". By "we", I mean my 6-year-old. Maybe we should start working on real names.

ItsJustJoss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:46:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is cute, because for my family it was "shakey cheese"!

likwidcold ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:52:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That will always be "shakey cheese" to me

cncfreak247 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We called it smelly cheese.

slaymoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:10:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We call it shaky cheese!

Carolenej ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shakey cheese in our family.

Screamingnoodle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My husband does the same!!

prinsparkles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My kids call it stinky cheese..

lostmonkey70 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I always knew it was parmesan cheese as well, but it was commonly called "shaker cheese" in my house growing up.

heylookitsdanica ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We called it "shake cheese."

Kleivonen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:52:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My 21 year old girlfriend still calls it sprinkle cheese. Even real grated Parmesan. Oh well.

Therearenopeas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:09:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I still call shredded cheese sprinkle cheese.

ProfMcGobblecocks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad always called it cat shit cheese. I've yet to see the similarity between it and cat shit.

LaTraLaTrill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's called shake shake cheese.

cocacolakill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:56 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I still call that shit sprinkle cheese, only if its in a sprinkle form though

throwavagina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:41 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have no idea why but it was called magic cheese when I was a kid.

USxMARINE ยท 2283 points ยท Posted at 03:14:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sorry but thats funny in a fucked up kinda way.

R-nd- ยท 477 points ยท Posted at 04:17:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My husband used to joke about doing that to our son, but we didn't want to fuck our kid up for jokes lol

verticaluzi ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 08:44:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Classic Dad

pjokkidudels ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 10:09:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My father did the exact same thing with me, he made me call my hand "foot". So before dinner i had to wash my feet

Waffle-weave ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 11:24:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is exactly point. You think these things, or joke about hem as adults, but you don't actually do them...

leadabae ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:49:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

do it for tha vine

[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:18:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's also an old Steve Martin joke from when he did stand up.

SexyMrSkeltal ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 11:01:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My brother did something similar, except he taught me that my left was my right and vice versa. He started teaching me at two and I didn't realize until 3rd grade that I was wrong. I still can't give directions because more often than not, I say the wrong direction when I mean the other.

indigo_panther ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:25 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was never taught my right from left when I was a child, my parents just thought they would have done it in school I guess, and the school never did it, so now I get really confused when I get directions from my gps sometimes. I always have to have it visible so I can see where its pointing.

If I try to give directions, I just point with my hands or make motions in the way that the person should turn. You aren't alone!

SexyMrSkeltal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:18:12 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To this day, the only way I can tell my left from my right, is because I ingrained it into my head that I'm right-handed, so I have to remember which hand I write with before I can even tell you left from right.

CheesyHotDogPuff ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:07:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought it would be funny to teach my kid the wrong words for one random thing, like calling a chain a tank. "C'mon jimmy, let's make some daisy tanks!"

TruthFromAnAsshole ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:07:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

you spelled hilarious wrong.

Famixofpower ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:22:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

At least it's not a potato!

jason_stanfield ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:03:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If I ever have kids, I can't wait to do stuff like this.

It won't be too bad, but there's going to be at least a few things they take into adulthood that get them funny looks from others.

People just shouldn't be too normal.

thecriclover99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:27:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is it wrong that I am having a massive urge to become a father just to do this??

USxMARINE ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:32:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Perhaps.

[deleted] ยท -41 points ยท Posted at 04:11:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

no, it's not.

[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 05:09:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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FM-96 ยท -16 points ยท Posted at 05:47:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly can't say I find that the least bit funny, and I usually have a pretty dark sense of humor.

But that... I just find that sad.

TheJeffreyLebowski ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 05:49:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dark humor is like kids with cancer. It never gets old.

Dumplingman125 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:46:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dark humor is like food. Some people just don't get it.

Jaerba ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:26:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Most of this stuff is pretty benign. It probably depends how long it went on. If it goes on for years, that's genuinely kind of mean. But if it's a couple weeks or a month, it's not bad.

FM-96 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:51:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well...

Sister confuses plates and bowls Brother confuses forks and spoons I get confused with Beetroot and capsicum.

It went on long enough for the children to learn the wrong words for things.

They said they "get it right most of the time now". So in other words, they're still having some trouble even now.

TheNewOrleansJazz ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 06:38:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can see your dark humor now.

"DAE hitler was goodXD !!?!?"

FM-96 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:51:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Huh? What?

I'm reasonably certain I never said that?

TheNewOrleansJazz ยท -16 points ยท Posted at 06:57:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You never said it, what I said is a television trope. Like when a character says "I can see it now" and a flashback sequence ensues.

USxMARINE ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:42:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Survey says?

EHHHHHH

Sorry, but "funny" was the answer we were looking for, but thanks for playing.

hellabitcoins ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 04:06:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ever heard of a film called Dogtooth?

Mstykmshy ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:00:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yessss. Have you seen his new movie The Lobster? Equally unsettling and beautiful

TomHardyAsBronson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:50:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I absolutely loved that movie. It was so funny and discomforting. I've never seen anything like it.

emmacait15 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:13:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This was my first thought as well. Great movie by the way!

MacBeef ยท 92 points ยท Posted at 03:32:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

capsicum

I straight up had to google that, so I guess you knew fancier words for things than I did as a kid.

[deleted] ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 04:14:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Really? What do you call capsicum?

ria1328 ยท 105 points ยท Posted at 04:26:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bell peppers.

FrancisCastiglione12 ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 04:49:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Capsicum is an Aussie thing.

Slenderauss ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 05:41:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had no idea we were the only ones who said it.

bgaesop ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:19:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're also the only ones who call it "beetroot" instead of just "beet"

lesbefriendly ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:52:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nope. Beets are called beetroot in the UK too.

A capsicum is a pepper.

bgaesop ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:15:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe it's a Commonwealth thing, then? Of the former British colonies, the only two places I've lived are the USA and Australia, so that's the extent of my knowledge

Burnaby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:51:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We call em bell peppers and beets in Canada.

bgaesop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:25:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Huh. Then I dunno what to think

refep ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:54:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Brits and Indians also call it Capsicum

WuTom ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 07:08:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A lot of people in UK call them peppers, I never heard the use of capsicum whilst there.

refep ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:44:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah you're right.

Bell pepper (also known as sweet pepper or a pepper in the United Kingdom, Canada and Ireland, and a capsicum /หˆkรฆpsแตปkษ™m/[1] in Australia, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Singapore and New Zealand)

ameya2693 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 07:23:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Capsicum is not used in Britain. Typically, they call them Bell Peppers here.

Source: Am Indian who used the word Capsicum, live in Britain where I have never heard any one call it Capsicum before.

jayemee ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:30:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Agreed, bell peppers if not just peppers.

vonlowe ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:32:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No we don't - they are peppers or sweet/bell peppers

Mastadge ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:52:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

According to Wikipedia it's known as capsicum in Australia, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Singapore and New Zealand, so you're not completely alone on this one

hrtfthmttr ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:29:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They call bell peppers that? That just seems so weird.

benji-21 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:03:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a New Zealander, this is the first time I've heard you call them bell peppers. Seems weird as shit to us too.

[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 06:51:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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lofi76 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:32:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Here in Colorado, we say Doodleboppers. To each their own, I suppose.

Arjunnn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We call it that in India too

HeatMzr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm pretty sure capsicum is the molecule in peppers that makes it spicy.

Edit: just googled I'm thinking of capsaicin.

beepbeepitsajeep ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:55:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm pretty sure it's not. Maybe you're thinking of capsaicin.

HaniiPuppy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:08:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sweet Peppers.

Henkersjunge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:31:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Paprika or bell pepper.

Yogrumpus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:21:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hope one day English speakers can standardize on some common names for things.

MacBeef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:32:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some have said bell peppers, but I've always called it red peppers.

apendleton ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 06:37:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Bell pepper" and "capsicum" both include the yellow, orange, and green ones, not just red.

Indie59 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:52:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Right? It took me a minute to realize they were talking about beets and peppers.

tilsitforthenommage ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:21:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's what we call em in Australia

MeowyPrincess ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:52:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You guys call it bell peppers in America.

Australia calls it capsicum.

elmo274 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:27:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What do you guys call it?

MHG73 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 04:15:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One time when I was maybe three I asked my mom for a bowl, so she handed me one. I was pissed because I wanted a cup and I couldn't understand why she would give me this when it was perfectly clear what I wanted, a bowl! We then went back and forth for a couple minutes with "no, a bowl!" And "that is a bowl!" Until eventually she figured out somehow what I wanted. Another time the same thing happened with me asking for a colander when I really wanted a calendar.

pogtheawesome ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 03:32:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

unrelated but I get convent and coven confused. People find it hilarious. I feel your pain.

I almost had it until I learned in french couvent has a silent t

RULDan ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 06:47:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wtf how often are you using these words?

Burnaby ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:58:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe they run a wiccan group at a church?

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:04:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Seriously, I don't think I've ever actually needed those words in real life.

pogtheawesome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I went to catholic school where we had many nuns and a convent on campus. I am also have pagan, Wiccan, and satanist friends. It comes up.

Burnaby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:55:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Most French words have a silent something or other. Le mot ยซ franรงais ยป lui-mรชme...

pogtheawesome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know but in that specific word it fucked me up lol

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've never used either of these words before in my LIFE. Wtf.

pogtheawesome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:01 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I go to catholic school and 3 of my friends are Wiccan, pagan, and satanist

stay_sweet ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:42:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's a short story titled 'No is Yes' by Paul Jennings. It's a similar concept with an ambiguous ending

NickDownUnder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:41:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That story was great, and slightly heartbreaking if I am remembering it right

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:42:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes! A man teaches his daughter word definitions which are opposite to what they mean and screws up her language. Eg, she says "yes" instead of "no," "animal" for "person," "hot" instead of "cold," etc. When she's 14 years old and a plumber comes by, he is mortified after the man presents his "creation" to him.

The plumber tries to communicate with the girl but she's obviously screwed up, and eventually she starts to realize what her father's done.

At the climax of the story, the guy's house burns down. Firemen ask the girl if anyone was inside and she replies "no."

(It's ambiguous to whether or not she meant he was inside because she did learn sort of what her father had done after meeting the plumber).

lollerkeet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:26:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think it's his best. Certainly affected me more than any others as a kid.

Did it make it to Round The Twist?

LadyEmry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:31:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I remember reading this story when I was a kid. I remember the book had a really weird title, something about jam and ghosts?

lostgirl19 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thought of this right away!

frickenheck ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:07:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I remember my mind being blown when I learned that "dippy eggs" are actually eggs over medium/easy.

sloonark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We just call them 'soft boiled eggs'.

isoperimetric ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:49:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

eggs over easy are actually pan fried eggs, not boiled

sloonark ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:57:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh. Well we call soft boiled eggs 'dippy eggs'. This is getting confusing.

HaniiPuppy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:12:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, the ones you dip soldiers into.

Burnaby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Toast strips?

HaniiPuppy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If it's bready for some fun.

MoscaMye ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 04:28:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My cousins are bilingual - English and German. But for some reason I'll never understand instead of teaching them the German or English words for dog, cat, train, car, food etc basic things they taught them baby forms Last time I saw them before his evil wife whisked them to Germany for a week and never came back the eldest was 5 and still talked about Bow-wows, Meeows, chuus, vrums and yumms

Damn they already had to learn two of everything why make things harder by making them learn three?!

Kitbixby ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:53:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

beetroot and capsicum

I have never heard the called that. I've always known them as beets and (color) peppers. I guess you really do learn something knew everyday

FrenchieSmalls ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:59:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's an Aussie thing

sainisaab ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:30:05 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Aussie/Kiwi/Indian thing.

thomb1994 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:53:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Found the Aussie!

R961ROP ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:01:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep. No one eats beetroot as much as an Aussie. They even put that shit on a burger!

Minimoose91 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:04:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh thank god I'm not the only one. To this day (I don't know a situation where this would happen, but for the sake of an example), if asked what sound a chicken makes I immediately want to respond "beck beck" (because they "beck" the ground with their beak. Don't ask me about the logic, he was having a field day. Love my dad to death regardless.)

hrtfthmttr ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:33:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You are really turned around. The chicken sound is usually taught as "bok", which is fine and one of a gajillion alliterations in language across the world. But birds "peck" things. It's not a sound word. It's an actual verb used to describe when a bird hits something with its break.

It sounds like you were not taught weird, you just got confused between the two as a child.

Minimoose91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Right! Except he's the one who told us he intentionally taught me and my sister. Apparently my mom wasn't too thrilled at the time. We just have a good laugh about it now.

heavenlymomma ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:20:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like your siblings got the shitty end of that stick.

boomfruit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:44:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For sure. One of those is gonna come up way less often.

the_jak ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:40:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My highschool physics teacher had a dream to teach his grandchildren to count 1 2 3 4 5 7 6 8 9 10 and that blue was green and green was blue.

Type 2 diabetes took ed darby too soon for that though, and the only man who ever made me excited to learn expired before we could begin the experiment.

Taskmaster23 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:20:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's fucked up. Your dad did some real damage.

fnord_bronco ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:02:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That sounds like something from one of Steve Martin's standup routines.

Chicken_noodle_sui ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:20:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is evil AND hilarious

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:00:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I almost just downvoted this out of annoyance at your dad.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:13:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like something B F Skinner would have done.

Okuhou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We used to joke about doing this to our son. Just picturing him being like "Hold up! I gotta tie my cabbages! (shoes)" while everyone looked at him confused cracked me up. We didn't do that and even if we had tried he would have figured out because I'm pretty sure he's smarter than us... Still hilarious though.

GrandCondor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You should watch the greek movie "Dogtooth" by Yorgos Lanthimos. It's the same but waaay worse.

sage_006 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Troll dad award nominee right there.

zackeaterofsouls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was raised by my grandparents who both dropped out of school in 9th grade. I ended pronouncing a lot of things wrong and didn't know until I started dating my current boyfriend and he started pointing it out.

Some examples are saying deprimental instead of detrimental, I also say "should of/could of/ would of" instead of "should have/could have/would have" and apparently the show is called Charmed, not Charmed Ones.

archerif ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:54:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think you got the best deal of all your siblings. Confusing spoons and forks is different from not knowing if it's a beer groot or capsicum.

zedjamal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Were you by any chance in a Greek movie called Dogtooth?

ButtercupsUncle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is your last name "Martin"? Did you learn to "mambo dogface to the banana patch"?

Nightguard119 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:10:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like you got it the easiest, unless you live somewhere weird where they use beetroot and capsicum

moongoddessshadow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A friend of mine thought bananas were "goombas" until she was like 22 thanks to her dad. She still can't live it down.

rylos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:26:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When my grandson was just learning how to talk, I got him to using the word "chunky" for milk. Sure raised some eyebrows when he'd point to someone pouring milk and say "chunky!".

getinmyx-wing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:31:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think you have the better end of the deal here. I've been alive for more than two decades and never heard the words beetroot or capsicum until this moment.

DrProfHazzard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:31:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've joked about doing that when I have kids. I don't think I could actually follow through on it.

trebmal4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:34:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I called sunny side up eggs "dip eggs". I didn't know they weren't actually called that until my 20's.

When my kids were little, they called American cheese, "orange cheese". They're in their late teen's, and early 20's and sometimes still call it orange cheese.

bestoflurk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:43:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm confused. Only half this thread seems sarcastic. This is a joke, right? About the irrelevance of beetroot versus forks, bowls, etc?

TheBlueTardis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:48:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It was peas and corn for me. Eventually learned to not trust anything he said without asking Mom if he was right.

Insomniac199 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dad tried to make me and my brother call chocolate milk mocolate chilk. It never really got to me but my brother would slip up and say it wrong til about age 8 or so.

HaniiPuppy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:07:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If I raise children, I want to teach them that one mythical creature is real, and that one real creature is mythical. (Probably the Narwhal, since I can compare them to Unicorns)

EDIT: Oh god, I'm having flashbacks to getting "Protestant" and "Prostitute" mixed up.

BrujaBean ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:11:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My friend and I were always talking about how funny it would be to teach our kids that a table is called "duck" and a duck is called "table." When I stop thinking that is a hilariously great idea, I'm allowed to have kids. Until then, IUD in.

The_Celtic_Chemist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you just called them bell peppers you wouldn't have this problem. Just saying.

Somzer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:19:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There goes my super original master plan to teach my kid the wrong name of colours.

Danleyb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:20:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm going to have to stop telling my toddler that goats are "Frenchmen," aren't I?

Niccin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow, there's a Paul Jennings book that covers that concept with a single dad raising his daughter. It was always one of the most fucked up stories to me. I'm sorry you had to deal with it.

_steve_rogers_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:25:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

this here's a snarflap

iCon3000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:25:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Beetroot and capsicum

Well I have no idea what either of these are so don't feel too bad.

Datarayne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:31:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When my son was 3 or 4 we took him to Formula Drift. He wanted to know what to call the guys who race. I told him they were race-ists. Everyone we were with thought it was hilarious, little kid waxing poetic about how cool race-ists are. That is until he started asking if the life size cardboard cutout of Dale Earnhardt Jr. was a race-ist at the crowded gas station after we left the track. I said yes. My son said "He isn't my favorite racist" People were confused and getting angry. I was surprised at the people willing to defend cardboard Dale Jr's honor against a small child. We dropped our drinks and candy and ran away to explain to him that they were called drivers. His mother still gives me hell about it.

Sqeaky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:33:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

TIL learned people call peppers "capsicum". Never heard the word before this thread now twice.

spiritbx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:33:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I still make mistakes by calling blankets towels(in french though).

No one taught me wrong though, my brain is just stupid I think.

The_cynical_panther ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:39:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's a movie about this called Dogtooth.

It's a lot more fucked up than just plates vs bowls though.

InitiallyAnAsshole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:39:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm 100 percent sure that's what Geoff from Rooster Teeth does to his daughter.

CallMeKali ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:47:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't remember which parent it was (probably my mom) but one of my parents decided it would be funny to tell me a pot was a pan and a pan was a pot one night when i was very young (I still halfway remember it so maybe 6 or 7)

It's taken me the rest of my 23 years to recover from that. I know the difference, but I trip over my words when I try to say it to someone because I'm not confident that I'm getting it right and I don't want to look like an idiot

SpeedyEdie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:49:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom didn't correct me when I called the ambulance an "amblyance" I still get confused.

17michela ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:50:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's okay. Jaden Smith grew up thinking the color green was blue. That's why he says most trees are blue.

Twoheaven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:00:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad told me when I was young that soy sauce was "bug juice"...like squeezed grasshopper oil lol. I'm coming up on 34 and still call it bug juice, prolly always will, kind of my thing at this point, but it's always a fun conversation with new friends when I ask for the bug juice.

Kareus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:00:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

daaamn

cozmad1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How often does Beetroot/Capsicum come up?

Klokwurk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:05:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

may I mambo dogface to the banana patch?

ohmzar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:06:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair some people just have their brain crossed so that they replace the word for things without even noticing this.

I constantly use the wrong nouns for things when I'm not concentrating, I've told my other half that stuff is in the dishwasher when I meant the fridge, and I often say bathroom or kitchen when say living room.

___KIERKEGAARD___ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:22:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents were awesome, but I have no idea what beetroot or capsicum are.

SMURGwastaken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:35:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Buddy and me did this with our Lithuanian friend, whenever he couldn't think of the English word for something we'd give him the word for something else that we figured he wouldn't know. My personal favourite was getting him to call a tarpaulin a chisel and a crowbar a tarpaulin. His English was far worse for having known us frankly.

AndyMuzo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:37:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You just made me remember "red lettuce"! My brother wouldn't eat cabbage, just refused point blank, so the pickled red cabbage that tastes great with cottage pie was called red lettuce. It wasn't till I was in my teens that I finally read the label and had a moment of utter disbelief.

feAgrs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:40:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

10/10 dad joke

avocadonumber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:50:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What the fuck are beetroot and capsicum? The other ones seem cruel, but ive never once used those two words.

Beets and bell peppers apparently

AMHousewife ยท 5862 points ยท Posted at 01:16:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom is obsessively clean. It took me a couple years into my marriage to stop cleaning to her standards. I am not a dirty person but I don't have a fit about a little dust on the baseboards.

She should see my carpet right now. I've been sewing. There is scraps and threads all over. She'd twitch.

Mu69 ยท 2765 points ยท Posted at 03:57:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom is a semi hoarder, so I would consider you lucky.

AUsername334 ยท 1139 points ยท Posted at 05:03:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ugh, isn't it awful being a child of a hoarder? I'm not at all a hoarder myself but I do feel like it's a struggle to keep things clean and organized because of how I grew up.

awful_at_internet ยท 1166 points ยท Posted at 05:49:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God yes. I've got the itch, though. The worst part, for me, is that my mom's type of hoarding is sensible. Garbage is garbage and gets thrown away... but broken things aren't always garbage. All that cool rustic-looking furniture you see on etsy and shit? My mom has an eye for that sort of thing. Someone throws out an old dresser, she can see that if you just strip the shitty paint off, fix the broken slide (cheap as shit to do), and slap a sealant on it, it'll look fucking gorgeous. It's all very sane.

The problem is she sees these awesome projects ALL THE TIME, and finds it very difficult to turn one down. Combined with her mediocre health, plus her many, many other interests, they don't get done, and pile up.

My sister and I have the same eye, and it's hard. You see all this awesome shit you know you can do, but then you have to stop and think "Okay. I see what I want to do. Do I have room? Do I have time? Do I have the money? Do I have the energy?" and if you fail any of those, you HAVE to let it go, or it piles up.

Fortunately, my sister's husband will throw it out if it sits for too long, and I periodically go through all my shit and downsize, so neither of us has the piles-and-pathways in our homes.

[deleted] ยท 306 points ยท Posted at 06:30:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh man, my parents keep almost EVERYTHING free/cheap or that you could possibly reuse and they don't care about anything being ugly. Those big yogurt containers, baby food jars(Where do they even get them?? They don't even buy baby food), twist ties. They'll got to the dollar store and spend $60-$100. Oh and my dad used to travel for work and still has a box full of 13+ year old, unused, mini shampoos and soaps.

I have to really make a conscious effort to not keep everything just because it might be useful one day.

KAS_tir ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 07:51:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dude! My dad is the same way. He legitimately bitched out my sister for throwing out an old charred and bent sheet pan. She was just like dad, it's gross. It's gotta go. Like the thing was brown.

[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 08:31:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So nasty. My parents also will not admit when food has gone bad. I can not tell you how many times I've gotten food poisoning.

KAS_tir ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 08:41:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

See my parents were the opposite, so much food wasted because they thought it was bad. Even if I just cooked it the other day, cuz no one kept track. Plus my mom would cook the hell out of everything. She cooked turkey bacon for like 5 minutes! 5 minutes! It was burnt to a crisp. I was like mom....its precooked!! She did that with everything: chicken, fish, all steak was well done. I'm having flashbacks just thinking about it.

Edit Actually come to think of it my dad never throws food away, I just know not to eat any leftovers at his house lol.

zayatsbunny ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 12:45:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know why, but many times I'll just feel like meat is undercooked even though it's been cooking/in the oven for the right amount of time, I just taste it and feel like it's still half raw. Just yesterday I made chicken breasts. My husband ate his portion, thought it was awesome and well cooked. I had to put mine back for ten minutes, and even after that it didn't feel okay. It was even part of the same breast. Now it's in the fridge, hopefully I'll have less of a meat mental day today.

king4aday ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:21:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was the same way - where I come from, they usually way overcook all meats. After coming to the U.S., and realizing what juicy goodness a medium-rare steak is, I can't go back to dry meat. What made it happen to me is I realized not all meat should be overcooked, and I lowered the doneness of self-cooked meals, or in restaurants I went medium-well->medium->medium rare->rare over time.

KAS_tir ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:52:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Steak can be eaten rare because it doesn't carry the same bacteria as other meats however, coming from someone who worked in a kitchen, make sure that the restaurant has a good health rating (or if you frequent it often without any problems) before you order a rare steak. Cross contamination can happen very easy if the cooks aren't careful. And unfortunately in many restaurants they aren't. I can tell you some horror stories ><

KAS_tir ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:48:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Do you Cook often? I was like that when I was young and first learning but I learned to trust my cooking the more I did it. Also it helped that I actually was working as a cook haha. Do you have a thermometer? Maybe it'll help if you actually see that it's up to temp. 165 for chicken, 145 for fish, 115 for rare steak and 155 for well done.

Edit: Unless if you use metric, then idk.

shadstarrrr ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:39:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother will keep things in the fridge for about 4~5 days then take it out and warm it up telling me "it's still good!". Majority of the time I can smell how bad it is...Then she gets pissed off when I just open the food waste and throw the lot in there...

CapOnFoam ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 14:52:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

... Food kept in the fridge 4-5 usually IS still ok unless your fridge is too warm. What is going bad in 4-5 days??

shadstarrrr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:22:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

4~5 days is the minimum, I've pulled some stuff out my fridge that's been in there for 8 or 9 days - sometimes longer...usually it's curries and occasionally pasta.

Rigo2000 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 08:07:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom keeps like disposable plastic spoons, knifes and forks, even though there's literally a hundred perfectly fine normal utensils ti choose from at any time.

Boc7269 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 12:02:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My girlfriends grandparents do the same thing. I don't get it. They also ask for extra condiments from fast food places and keep a plastic bag full of those in the fridge over buying a normal full sized sauce.

quackqueline ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:11:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents are the same, we have a drawer in the fridge of condiments that are incredibly old. My dad takes a handful of plastic bags from the supermarket, as well as the ones you use to bag fruit. He "needs" them. We have handfuls of napkins from every food place we ever visit. I can at least support the napkin thing, though.

Keykatriz ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 08:17:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandma buys the thick, but still disposable, plastic cups and then washes them in the dishwasher. I really don't understand, why not just use an actual cup instead?

ChaosQueen713 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 09:29:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Was your Grandma alive or went through the great depression? If so i wonder if that attributes to it.

woeful_haichi ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:15:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It certainly could.

A girlfriend's grandmother grew up during the Japanese occupation of Korea and Korean War, so when we went out for food it wasn't uncommon for her to use a napkin or plastic bag to surreptitiously take home any of the side dishes/unused vegetables that came with the meal.

Aurfore ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:55:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well its just a waste otherwise! Normally a restaurant will help you pack it up too

woeful_haichi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:19:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Have never seen a restaurant in Korea offer to pack up banchan for customers before -- seems more like something that would make people look down on you for being that poor or abandoned by family.

Aurfore ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:02:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shit, really? I'm from ireland and you can always ask for a paper bag and some foil to wrap up your left overs to bring home if you can't finish it! It really isn't looked down on since it would go to waste otherwise. Crazy to think it is looked down on! If i paid for the food and want to save it then im damn well taking it home o.o

Keykatriz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not quite the great depression, but she was born in Austria right at the end of World War II and had 10 siblings, so it's pretty much along those lines.

Rigo2000 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:29:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And she probably has a thousand regular cups, right?

pandemonium91 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 13:11:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But those are for nice company, like the Queen!

Keykatriz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Of course. And considering she does the dishes just about every day, it's not like she'd ever run out of cups.

funobtainium ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:31:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother-in-law does that. You're putting it in the dishwasher, just use a regular glass!

ShaxAjax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:35:18 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They're pretty good at insulation, honestly, and it gets hot as shit around here. Keeps my drink cold and my sanity safe from lukewarm needs-a-better-purifier water.

YetAnotherDumbGuy ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 11:07:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh man, my parents keep almost EVERYTHING

My grandparents were like this. When my grandma died, their three kids, with spouses and grandchildren in tow, took weeks to empty their house and get rid of all the stuff. The worst of it was that there'd be a box of paper with a bunch of old recipes cut out from a newspaper and also important legal documents, so we couldn't just toss boxes of paper in the recycling: it all had to be carefully sorted through. It was a nightmare.

Start now getting rid of their stuff. If you go over once or twice a month, and find some box of "Princess__Beyonce's schoolwork from 2nd grade" in the attic and take it home and get rid of it, in five years you'll have made a real dent in the mess and you'll be happy you did.

datmamathere ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:14:46 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandmothers house was like this, too. She grew up during the depression and had some weird ways. I don't think 'hoarder' covered it. When she died we had to get one of those dumpsters they deliver and you fill up. Finally stuff got so strange we started keeping a list of some of it. There was 3243 butter bowls with lids, mail in the envelopes dating back to 1931, some antibiotics my cousin left there for his ear infection when he was two years old she kept for him in case he needed it later in 1968, she saved it to 2011, there were leftovers in her deep freeze from thanksgiving 1999, and she loved aloe, so there were 97 huge aloe plants the size of Jurassic park extras in there. She was very well off but had cash hidden everywhere, so literally everything had to be checked before we threw it out, and there was money rolled up and wrapped in plastic, stuck in the soil of the plants, stuck in the books, in the mail, and in the freezer in an empty box of lasagna. That was a long month!

AMHousewife ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:18:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandma too. We found so much money filed away. Around fifteen thousand dollars. My dad used it to re-carpet her house. After decades of hoard, though a cleaner hoard, that carpet was shot.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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YetAnotherDumbGuy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:08:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ugh, just the thought of what kind of shitshow throwing out my 15 year old school projects would start... eugh.

Sheesh, you don't tell them you're throwing it out. You tell them you're taking some of your school stuff home with you.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:02 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I live 2,000 miles away so visiting isn't really an option, but apparently they have moved into an apartment and my brothers tossed about 2/3 of their stuff(including the few things I wanted to have shipped to me).

Now I'm living with my SO's family and they are also hoarders. -_- But I wouldn't feel right getting rid of any of their things.

rahtin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:54:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was unemployed for a winter 5 years ago. My wife and I were only in our late twenties and I managed to get rid of 28 garbage bags worth of useless shit out of our tiny apartment. None of it has ever been missed.

falalalfel ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 11:04:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

LITERALLY my mother. Even if I try throwing stuff out, she will rummage through the trash (?? I have no fucking idea why she does this to begin with) and it will be back in our hoard of garbage. She also refuses to admit it's disgusting and weird. Bruh, that food expired months ago and that pan hasn't been used in YEARS--it's time to let them gooooo.

doom_Oo7 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:21:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have to really make a conscious effort to not keep everything just because it might be useful one day.

My father was (and still is) hoarder at some level. But roughly twenty years ago he broke with his ex-wife and didn't keep anything ; he put almost everything to the trash. To this day he still says he regrets throwing everything away.

quackqueline ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:14:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom will go through my trash because she is afraid I'm throwing out some of her stuff. I've thrown out her stuff before, but it's been things I genuinely believed were garbage. She's incredibly paranoid.

shoneone ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:35:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Neighbor is obsessively organized, never lets anyone borrow a tool. He calls his family "junk farmers" and they truly are: live on a subsistence farm with fields of rusting machinery, engines, broken appliances; their house has dirt floors in half the rooms including the kitchen, and kids live in a shed, not because of poverty as much as mental illness

Rando_gabby ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:14:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Apparently my great grandparents were like this and it continued slightly lesser down the family line.

They got hit massively in the great depression and survived like total bosses. Tin cans flattened and nailed to holes, candy wrappers to clean the stove, that sort of thing. But it continued throughout their lives. They would regularly visit my dad's house and then pick through the garbage, saving candy wrappers and spoiled food.

My grandma wasn't that affected but her older sister kept the tiny depression era shack and never upgraded it. It was the size of some people's living rooms. She did have an indoor toilet though, thank heavens.

When she died she left behind a fortune that would have pretty much been her retirement savings had she spent a penny of it.

My dad is much much better, but he still tries to save slightly spoiled food, eats things he doesn't want to eat just so it doesn't go bad, and struggles to avoid sale items he doesn't need.

lipstickapocalypse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:05:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Might be hard to do, but if you think any of those little soaps and stuff are still good, you could probably donate them to a homeless shelter. Of course, getting them away from your dad might be the hard part.

WgXcQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:02:46 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

twist ties

My grandma grew up during WW2 in Germany. She always cut up old pantyhose into strips to use like you would twist ties. My mom almost started doing the same because she was so used to it, but luckily abstained when we told her that is crazy (she agreed, once she came to her senses).

librarianlady95 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel the exact same way. I have to force myself to throw shit away because it MIGHT come in handy eventually. I can't stand all the junk my mom keeps just because she might use it later. Every time I go to my mom's house she presents me with a box of shampoos and shit that are AT LEAST 5 years old and tells me to pick out anything I want because she's trying to get rid of it and I'm just like ??? just throw it away, no one wants this ???

Tuxpc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Think you could sneak out the baby food jars? I could use some. :)

Tamespotting ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 05:57:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yup, was just going to say, I inherited my moms eye for interesting looking things, but it does morph into hoarder level. I can throw stuff out, but my mom doesn't like to throw much out. It's functional hoarding, it's not like on the TV show, but man, it would make my parents life easier if she would throw crap out and stop buying random antique chairs and 4 garlic presses and shot like that.

awful_at_internet ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 06:03:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh yeah, that's another thing- the nose for a good deal! Buy in bulk, save money! Look, you save 5 cents if you buy the 300-pack instead of the 20-pack. Never mind that it'll take you three years to use all 300 whatevers, and in the mean time they're sitting there spoiling and/or taking up space. You saved money!

That's something I had to break myself of, especially for food. I just don't eat enough to buy in bulk like that!

Tamespotting ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:06:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh yeah. The sales for stuff you don't need, and the package deals of things you only need one of. I know about that. When, it was in sale becomes the excuse for buying it, you know you didn't need it.

comfortable_madness ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 08:14:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Growing up, I thought my mom was just a clutter type person. When she left and my dad, brother and I moved out of our childhood home... I can't even say how much clutter we got out of that house. It was deceptive.

Now that I'm grown, I've noticed that same tendancy to clutter in myself. I've made a rule for myself: every six months, I go through my house and "declutter". In the past, I've noticed I use the excuses of sentimentality to hold on to certain things (seriously, I made myself throw away an old shopping bag I'd held onto for years simply because it came from a shopping trip I took on a vacation.) or with clothes I know I'll never wear again, I think "I'll donate it, someone else might wear it." But then I never did. So, the rules for my declutter: if this isn't attached to an incredibly important memory, throw it away (reevaluate memory/feelings on it through next pass through). If I haven't worn this in six months, I know myself well enough that I'll never get around to donating it, so throw it away. If I haven't used it in the last six months, toss it.

My dad and I were cleaning out a spare bedroom the other day that had slowly been turning into a storage room and I found myself having to stop and look through things he was throwing away, just to make sure he wasn't throwing away anything important. I recognize the crazy there, but I couldn't help it. It was a compulsion.

Oddly enough, it wasn't my mom at all that got me into this mindset. I mean, sure, she was a factor, but years ago I'd marathoned Hoarders and was horrified at the behavior similarities and how I could easily see myself slipping into that.

Also, I think it might be genetic. There's my mom, and when my paternal grandmother passed away and we were cleaning out her house... Good lord. She kept a neat house, but hers was neat, organized hoarding. She had years and years worth of those paper bags from the pharmacy that your prescriptions come in all folded and pressed neatly tucked away in a drawer. Things like that, things that made no sense to keep all neatly tucked away.

Antice ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 09:38:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'd like to comment on your inability to donate stuff.
If you'd like to be able to do it, treat the donation cycle as a trash removal one, just make certain you drive it away to a drop off point at the same time as you are tossing out the trash. make it into a single dumping run. Never Ever tell yourself that you'l do it tomorrow.
Or alternatively: get someone to help you by taking charge of the donation part. Let them take it away the same day as you do the sorting.
edit: language

comfortable_madness ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:05:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, it's not that i don't want to or can't make myself let go. I live in a very rural area and the only place to really take things for donation like that is over an hour away. If they were closer, I don't think it'd be as much of an issue. In fact, a couple of weeks ago, I gave a big bag full of older men's clothes (my dads old never wear stuff) to this lady I know because she'd mentioned going to the donation place.

Antice ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:22:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe you could team up with your neighbours, and do regular donation run's?
This type of donation costs so little, but makes such a big difference.

A_Crabbit_Habit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:49:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Salvation Army trucks do neighborhood pickups in my area all the time. Maybe there's something similar where you are so all you would have to do is walk to it the end of the drive.

WgXcQ ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:02:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There is some evidence that the kind of sentimental hoarding you mentioned is connected to having a bad memory, or feeling like you have one. Discarding the thing that "holds" the memory consequently feels like giving up a part of yourself or your past.

In cases like that, it helps to take a picture of the thing you feel is difficult to throw out. As files on the computer, the things are still accessible in a way and can remain a memory-trigger, but you don't have them cluttering up your home anymore.

Also, if you have a friend who has the time for that, it also helps to not touch things you are trying to decide about keeping or tossing/donating. There've been studies done that show that physical touch creates an emotional bond that makes it harder to let go of things (salespeople use that when they try to hand you things for you to "just have a look at"). It's easier to let things go when the friend holds them up in front of you and then places them in the keep or give-away pile, without you touching them.

I recommend the book "Stuff: Compulsive Hoarding and the Meaning of Things" by Gail Steketee and Randy Frost. It describes the cases of many different hoarders, some historic, and how they treated them. The authors were some of the first psychologists to concentrate on hoarding, and the way the cases are described and the insights of the patients themselves is truly fascinating. There were a lot of things I recognized in there and some true a-ha! moments. I have cases of borderline hoarding on both sides of the family and am watchful because I inherited/learned a number of behaviours that make it hard for me to let go of things, too. The book has helped me to better understand the reasons behind it. I can thoroughly recommend it.

LadyEmry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:51:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know if this would be applicable (since you live in a rural area and I'm not sure what country you live in), but in Australia there are charities (such as Diabetes Australia) which are very willing to come to you and pick up donations you leave on your doorstep. All you do is book a day and time period. It might be worth a google, just in case?

Tamespotting ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:33:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's definitely genetic. And my grandmother also was super neat but saved all receipts and was very into collecting and saving things. My mom is just super messy unfortunately. But I too have the strong desire to collect things, and it can get compulsive. But I just stay vigilant and try and break the habits of having too much stuff.

MoveitFootballHead ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:38:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hahaha this thread is resonating with me so hard. (But I love you mom, if you ever see this.)

KindOfBadassTho ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:51:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh man, I'm gonna write those questions down and hang them on my wall: do I have the room, time, money, or energy ? God damn, this is gonna help - thanks !

Rigo2000 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:06:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know the pain, man. My mother keeps all these what-a-ma-calls-its because they can "be used for something", but she never uses them. The house is filled with just stuff that isn't really needed, and I have a hard time organizing anything in my own apartment. I've come to the conclusion that I just need to have less stuff, otherwise it will start cluttering up. When I've finished my thesis I'm gonna throw away half my stuff.

Keykatriz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:15:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I got the worst of both from my grandparents. My grandfather keeps so much random stuff "just in case and while it does come in handy very occasionally, it's not a great habit. He has a drawer full of TV remotes from probably the 80s on.

My grandma has a thing for boxes and any slightly nice quality box is something that you should keep and reuse. I can't bring myself to part with things like shoe boxes, perfume boxes, even nice shipping boxes.

Logical_Lemur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:30:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The problem is she sees these awesome projects ALL THE TIME, and finds it very difficult to turn one down. Combined with her mediocre health, plus her many, many other interests, they don't get done, and pile up.

This is me, except it's electronics not furniture, I hate it but it's really hard to change. :(

Clutter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:55:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have 3 broken laptops under my bed I am going to salvage the screens from any day now.

Logical_Lemur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:24:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Only 3? Amateur.

drunky_crowette ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:26:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do you remember mom driving and pulling a U-turn because she saw a yard sale sign or a bunch of shit on someones curb?

procrastimom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:01:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I live comfortably and want for little, but I still have a primal reaction when I see things on curbs or in alleys; my brain says "Free Chair!" or worse "I could make a table out of that free door!"

It's tough to deprogram your early thought patterns.

yukichigai ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:32:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is my life and my parents, almost to a T. I've only just recently been able to admit that they're hoarders even though "it's not garbage". Now comes the very, very hard task of unlearning years of ingrained behavior. It's... rough.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:50:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yesssss! My mums garage is full of old Furniture, mirrors, chairs etc the cars have to be parked on the driveway because the garage is full, all the spare rooms and the study are full etc

AtemAndrew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:58:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Assuming she used this to flip everything, it wouldn't be bad...

DodgyBollocks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:00:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom is exactly this person too! And she has ZERO time right now but she has the eye and the urge to do it. I am working hard to not do the same. I still do it occasionally but to much lesser degree.

WalkerVII ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:44:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Turn it into a business.

R4INOLD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:14:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This sounds exactly like my mom, and I hate it. I've stopped even making an attempt at cleaning the house. I just keep my room clean and spend all of my time up there.

eccitaze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:22:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you literally me?

I recently helped my mom downsize her possessions in preparation for selling her condo. One of the things we threw away was a literal tree stump she had hoarded from my sister when she had a tree cut down in her backyard. She had always insisted that she would be able to make a beautiful coffee table with the stump.

My sister moved out of that house years ago. She never even touched the stump after putting it in her garage.

SirQuwaine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:23:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haha dude sounds exactly like my mom. I have 2 mattresses in my basement with wholes in them, and 2 pianos xD one piano is so out of tune, and literally we would have to get a professional music technician to come and work on it, and all that. 3/4's of the time we end up keeping all of the trash we had and just throwing it away because we wait too long to fix it. Like in my basement we have cleaned it all out atleast 3 times since I've been alive and it's back to exactly where it used to be. Full of trash and completely cluttered.

idwthis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:36:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit, you sound like you could be talking about my mom amd sister from my perspective here.

I'm not even kidding, we've all got the eye for those damn projects as well. Sister's husband does indeed throw out what needs to tossed.

And I have do a big clean and declutter and organize spree once a month, lest I start to succumb to the ways of my mom and die trapped in a mountainous sea of half finished projects and flea market/yard/garage sale finds.

Jortastic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:43:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandma doesn't necessarily keep garbage, but she has twisted reasoning for having so much and continuing to buy it. She keeps printouts of old MSN news articles for reference. She also keeps old clothes of mine in case mine get "smoke damage" from a nearby fire. She continues to buy more for that reason and because things are too "special" to pass up. She has so much in her house she can't walk anywhere in it and her garage is a solid block of junk. She also has two storage units and has given me so many clothes, I have more than three times what will fit it my closet. It's so frustrating because she cries if I don't take what she gives me. We're the only two in the family left, so it will be my job to clean it when she's gone.

Dear_Occupant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:55:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm pretty sure that a good 25% chunk of the hoarding problem in America could be solved if more people had access to a better outlet for arts and crafts. I'm hoping that 3d printers will start to mitigate this somewhat.

BTW, /r/hoarding is a pretty solid community, if a bit small.

Alarid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:59:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I just told my mom to start selling her projects, and that seemed to help.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:40:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't think that's hoarding. There is nothing pathological about that, it's just impractical.

millicow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:45:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Almost sounds like my grandma. I recently helped her move into her new house, and 1. She has way too much crap 2. She has a ton of clothes 3. She had way too many mirrors. Combine this with her poor health and that she just got fired, she was having a hard time and broke down crying on the phone with her mom that she was behind a month on all the bills etc etc etc well gee maybe if you sold all this crap and stopped buying useless junk and decorations and spending 6 hours any time you set foot in a store... Anyway now she finally got approved for disability or whatever and gets money for that, so I think she's fine

YouDoNotWantToKnow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:02:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The problem is she sees these awesome projects ALL THE TIME, and finds it very difficult to turn one down.

Now imagine you have this, but you're also an engineer. Almost everything can be used. FML?

artsyheifer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:46:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you my sister? Lol

TheMarkBranly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:51:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just curious if you ever thought about finding a partner/laborer to do the actual work. You just find the pieces, tell them what to do, and then handle the sale of the piece once completed.

A good eye like that is a valuable gift. Knowing nothing else about your situation, it seems like it could be a creative outlet and potentially profitable side business.

saxtasticnick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:15:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit, that's exactly what my mom does too, same problem with never finishing them and everything! Have our basement is stuffed with all this shitty furniture that she never gets around to fixing up. The worst part is that all that furniture is kinda expensive so there were times when I had to lend my mom money to make ends meet because she decided to buy a few tables and a dresser.

JQbd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:45:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I live with my grandparents, and my grandma is a hoarder of sorts. My grandpa and I tell her all the time, but she denies it. She's always coming home with something new, and when my grandpa and I ask what it is, she always says it was either free or extremely cheap. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE NEED IT! We have so much junk laying around that we have never, and will never, use, and she refuses to get rid of anything. It's horrible and we're already out of space to put things.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:57:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This was my father in law. He died over a year ago. We are still sifting through all of the stuff he collected for projects or just because they were cool. Some of it is worth money, some of it is trash. It's been a real burden on his kids going through all of it trying to figure out what to pitch and what to sell. It seems like its actually extended the grieving process for them.

spooky_pudding ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Um are you my boyfriend? His mom is exactly like that and we just rented a small house with her. It is now filled to the brim with "cool" rustic, rusty, chipped half-broken old furniture that she needs to varnish or fix the door on. Every space is filled with old vintage bottles, bird houses and sea shells. She doesn't think she has a problem though cause her house isn't as bad as the people's on the hoarders tv show. I feel like I'm living in a thrift store.

SadGhoster87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The problem is she sees these awesome projects ALL THE TIME, and finds it very difficult to turn one down. Combined with her mediocre health, plus her many, many other interests, they don't get done, and pile up.

This is me but my projects are usually digital.

katielady125 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:48:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

...brother? Is that you?

But seriously I know exactly what you mean.

Fitzwoppit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:56:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The problem is she sees these awesome projects ALL THE TIME, and finds it very difficult to turn one down. Combined with her mediocre health, plus her many, many other interests, they don't get done, and pile up.

You just described my dad.

Jackson413 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We have family friends that do this and make a fair amount of extra cash by doing a ton of those projects and having an epic garage sale at the beginning of Spring and Fall.

StrawberryR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:38 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh my god, my mom has literally been rooting through peoples' trash lately and she's actually painting a shelf as we speak. My mom is so the same way.

Apparently the mindset she was raised with was this "product of the depression era," where you can't afford to throw out anything, so it's always "don't throw out those buttons, don't ignore that still-useful table on the curb, you can [XYZ] it!"

I'm exactly the same way and my bedroom is definitely piles-and-pathways. My HOUSE is piles-and-pathways. Well, not as much lately, we've been doing a good job keeping the house clean upstairs. It's just my room that I can't seem to de-clutter.

lady_lady_LADY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:51 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Goddamn that is the same freaking story of my mother, brother and I. Except my husband doesn't throw things out cause he doesn't really touch things that aren't shared or otherwise not expressly belonging to him. So then I have stuff in our storage that just sits there and takes up space. Not hoarder status, but it's just a little stifling sometimes. I'm getting better though, thanks to CBT, medication and the occasional counseling session.

Also having a kid helped, weirdly. I always thought when I had kids I would raise them to be a better person than me, of course, but I didn't realize until having him that that meant I have to be better than I was before. Suddenly my priorities have changed.

withbellson ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 06:36:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like being the child of a hoarder has given me a laser-focused sense of what does and does not get to stay in my house. Our place isn't spotless at all but I refuse to keep things around "just in case."

I did read somewhere recently that not hoarding is a socioeconomic privilege, because if you've already got the propensity to hoard and you have no money, of course you're going to keep stuff around because you might need it someday and might not be able to afford another one. I definitely have the privilege of being able to say "well, if it turns out I actually do need this thing two years from now, I will just go buy another one, and that is the fee I will pay to not store this thing in my house for two years."

Page_Won ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:14:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's exactly how I feel, especially since I rent and move around. I can see how it's a poverty mindset, but I told my mom, well when you don't have much space you can't afford to keep everything, space is valuable too, and of it's being used up by something useless then that's a waste of something valuable.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:21:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom got a storage unit for some of her clutter, so I doubt spending money to support your hoarding habit is a sign of the unprivileged lol. As it turns out, when you give a hoarder more space they'll just hoard more shit.

withbellson ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:27:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I'm not saying it's true of everyone on the OCD/anxiety spectrum or anything. My dad was more the "stacks of old newspapers and books he'll never read" style of hoarder -- definitely more emotion/habit-based than based in anxiety about not being able to use something in future. He died last year and my mom is now trying to figure out what to do with several rooms' worth of incredibly non-rare books.

MadeSomewhereElse ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:07:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandmother is a kind of a hoarder, more of a pack rat. Garbage is garbage, but she is not a good house keeper at all. As a result I live my life in the exact opposite manner. If I don't use it or if it doesn't add to my life I toss it. I have about 10 knick-knacks that all fit on this 2'x2' frame.

Mu69 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:43:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom isn't like there is no room to walk hoarder but she has shoes, clothes, and all that type of shit in every closet we jave. We jave about 5 and her shoes take up the door way. She doesnt even wear them. Also she keeps food that is literally expired. Like chips no one has ate for 1 year. And you will get yelled at if she sees you throwing it away

Jotponnysmoker ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:06:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a 10 day "vacation", where I visited my parents. And the moment I walked into the kitchen, I just wanted to get out of there. It's so sad to see. They renovate several rooms and within days they look like before. I'm not the cleanest person myself, partially due to how I grew up, but seeing my parents and sister live like this almost makes me cry.

sunflashmace7 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:15:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

My mom is a hoarder, and she physically abused me whenever I touched her stuff. Fuck hoarding. Hoarding is a huge red flag for me. Anything that resembles hoarding sends me running for the wind. The sad thing is I take after my dad so I'm naturally messy. I clean up after myself, but that is only because I refuse to allow my kid to grow up the way I did. The thing is my mom still doesn't understand why I don't want her seeing my child. The simple answer is the honest one. I don't trust her, and the day my daughter would come back with a bruise or busted lip would be the day I go to prison for the rest of my life. I'd rather block her number, and try to forget that she exists.

SpecialSause ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:43:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom has been a hoarder every since I can remember. At one point, she had a 3 bedroom 2 bathroom house with a porch and a garage completely filled yo to the brim. All the rooms were completely filled as well as the porch and the garage. Only one bathroom and one bedroom were accessible and there was a tiny path through the house. Oh, and she had 5 huge storage units at the time. She later moved to a really big double wide trailer that was given to her and she only had to pay $200 a month for lot rent. She ended up losing the trailer for not paying the lot rent because she was paying the storage units instead. She ended up losing the storage units as well. So kid in . The trailer was pointless.

Any way, because of her I have no problem getting rid of shit I don't need. I refuse to live like that ever again.

Vanah_Grace ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:16:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A good friend of mine and I both grew up this way. As a result we are both very particular about our homes especially if someone is coming over.

Aprils-Fool ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:17:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same. My house is sometimes messy, but if friends are coming over, it is SO tiny and clean! My biggest issue is not always being able to tell the difference between a "normal"amount of messiness and when it's gross.

All_Hall0ws_Eve ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:51:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yup. Both of my parents refuse to throw anything away and continuously bring more crap into their house. I could never have friends over because I was so embarrassed of how the house looked. If something breaks, my father will keep it because "he can use it for something". My mother brings home furniture they don't need that ends up sitting off in a corner somewhere for years. It's so bad that the three cats living there are confined to two rooms (two in one room and the other in the second). I've tried to help them but they either enjoy the way they live or they don't care.

wizbam ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:43:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Even worse when they are animal hoarders.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:24:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My in laws are like that. We went home after a year and it's just exploded. I feel claustrophobic in their house. We loved with them for a year and tried to help but once we moved it all went back to the way it was before.

Addicted2Craic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:28:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A hoarder's worst nightmare lol http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/in-pictures-36574697

oppanwaluigi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:11:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandfather has a serious problem with hoarding, to the degree that he had to buy a larger house just to store all of his stuff in. It drives my Dad up the wall. The worst part is that whenever he does seem to see something genuinely useful on sale which is actually a bargain, he doesn't seem to buy it, and just buys a bunch of old televisions or toasters or whatever instead.

buffylove ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh completely. It's almost like having a little mess is comforting to me

CombTheDessert ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:51:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My wife is the opposite, she never learned how

itscliche ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:38:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wouldn't consider my dad a hoarder (maybe out of pity, or that I feel bad calling him that), but oh boy, does he have a lot of shit. I've been living on my own for the past 5 years and man, does it feel good to have clean surfaces with nothing on them. They always rag on me for how empty my apartment looks, but it's simple, neat, and tidy. It's also crazy easy to clean and takes me like 30 minutes to whip my 1600sq ft apartment back into shape.

AUsername334 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow, they rag on you for having a clean place? The mentality, man, it's so distorted. It's a mental illness.

Bonobosaurus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:59:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel the opposite, since my parents are hoarders I don't want ANY clutter.

rahtin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:49:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's an episode of Hoarders where the teenage daughter actually managed to stand up to her parents and her room isn't cluttered, just the rest of the house. Carpet was still ruined from years of abuse, but it was tidy. Like a settlement on Walking Dead.

SoGodDangTired ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:50:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm really hoping that once I move out and can put things where I want to put them and not have them moved, I'll be better.

But then I am scared my house is going to end up the same way. I'm not as much of a hoarder, but I've certainly gotten used to the just wherever mentality.

katielady125 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:46:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This exactly. Years and years of terrible habits to unlearn. When you are a kid you don't know better and even as a teenager I was like "Well what difference does it make if I clean up this one thing? Fifty more will take its place."

JackHarrison1010 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:21:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can get the same effect by growing up in a house with almost no storage space.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:27:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm the child of someone who throws my shit away without asking, that's worse

smarmski ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 05:05:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom is also a hoarder of sorts. I've grown up around such an overabundance of useless stuff and multiples of everything"just in case" that I am now the complete opposite. One in, one out. Get rid of something as soon as it becomes useless.

WolfFrenzy ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:06:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh my god mine as well, but we move every 2 years so we have to carry EVERY SINGLE THING she keeps to each new house. There's ceiling fans from 15 years ago we still haul around.

mr_trick ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:58:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That sounds awful, I'm so sorry. Each time I move I treat it like an opportunity to purge myself of useless clutter. Before I pack each item I ask myself "have I used this in the last six months?" If the answer is no, I ask myself "have I looked for this, wanted to use this, or thought about this in the past six months?" If no, instant garbage/thrift store pile. If yes, I still take a minute to evaluate whether I think it's worth it to keep.

All those sewing projects, old books, clothes that I thought might be cool if I just wore them the right way... bye. Not coming with me. Old food, furniture I don't use... Nope. No room for you. Helps me minimize clutter and maximize space.

cattaclysmic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:31:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Im in the same boat. My mom hoards so much useless stuff that somehow a lot of it got "affectionary value". She fills her house with trinkets, pictures, baubles and whatnot - if i lived there I'd go insane. I myself dont even have a picture on my wall. However, its not hoarding in the sense that she can't get rid of it if truly forced to, and she is also a neat freak so its not dirty or anything.

catbehindbars ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 05:42:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I grew up in a messy, messy household and just never really learned how to clean properly or what are the proper cleaning standards.

Askelimcni ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 06:01:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same. I spent all those years at home blocking out the mess. I took extra care of my small space and possessions the best I could. Now, if I'm not careful, I'll block out things like table clutter until suddenly I realize I need to clear off the tables and counters. Then I feel like I need to clean everything, top to bottom and won't stop until everything is pristine and squared away. I'm getting better at it, though!

getinmyx-wing ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:27:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm on the opposite end! Growing up, no matter how thoroughly I cleaned, it was still "half-assed" in the eyes of my mother, so I developed this sort of mentality of, like, fuck it; if it's not going to be good enough anyway, why put in the effort? I became so apathetic toward cleaning that I constantly have to remind myself now, "it's been x days since you washed _." All of a sudden I'll have no clean underwear and realize all at once that I haven't done laundry in almost a month.

Askelimcni ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:45:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's kind of how my mother was. Her dad died when she was six and her mother married a man who beat her if she didn't clean house to his standards. When he died and her mother remarried, the next husband sold anything of hers he could get his hands on to buy beer, including the last baby doll she got from her father before he died. It's heartbreaking how things manifested.

WgXcQ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:06:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Take a photo of areas of your home and then try to identify the clutter. It's remarkable what a difference it makes, and you'll also be slightly horrified. For some reason, when we look at things life our brain edits what we see and perceives it as more orderly and sorted than it really is. A photograph flattens it down to pure messy reality.

themcp ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:49:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother was a full blown hoarder, so I sympathize.

I'm a bit messy and once or twice friends have accused me of being a horder. I just tell them they have absolutely no concept of what a hoarder is like.

She was left alone for a year, and then my father and I got the house back. It took me a week to clear a path from one side of the living room to the other. I found a whole shopping bag full of used plastic utensils. The freezer was full of peach pits. (I mean full). There was no room to put anything in the fridge because it was entirely full of used margarine containers full of leftovers that had grown mold. We eventually had to get ten people working all day with shovels to clear out the house, and we took out about 160 contractor bags of garbage. (We had to take everything of value out and put it on the lawn until we could get all the garbage out and scrub thoroughly. Soon cars began stopping to ask if we were having a garage sale, so we just started selling them stuff.) The next day, the health inspector came around and gave us a violation notice because the garbage was all in the driveway. My father asked them if they preferred we kept it in the house?

Porridgeandpeas ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:40:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How did your mum react to that, if you don't mind me asking? I've seen the show Hoarders and I'd say their reactions are real, crying, huffing etc..

themcp ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:36:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She tried to kill me 6 times. But she wasn't there for the cleanout, court order.

duhbell ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:24:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mom is very much a hoarder. She's retired and wants to downsize though so I'm trying to help her go through piles and boxes and get rid of stuff.

It is so utterly frustrating.

Tamespotting ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:01:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh I feel you. My mom was mad that I threw out a moldy futon from the basement, which hadn't been slept on in 15 years, and resided in a moldy uninhabitable basement. I was just trying to clean up. She went out to my car that I had loaded with crap to bring to the dump and tried to take some garbage back. Felt like was on hoarders. Then the next day she let me throw out broken furniture from the garage, which was a surprise.

MadeSomewhereElse ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:08:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom about had a nervous breakdown downsizing her mother (my grandmother) in preparation to move.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:12:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah. This sucks. My parents live in a fairly large house. The attic, garage, basement, and every spare room is full of stuff they don't touch for years..maybe decades. In two years they plan on selling the house and downsizing which means they'll need to come to terms with all the shit they've collected. And on that day I plan on being FAR away.

AfroTriffid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:51:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know everyone loves Marie kondo but the fly lady techniques seem to work for hoarding situations. If your mom is frozen or feeling a bit helpless then I find fly lady has a less all-or-nothing approach. I've recommended her tons over the years and her '15min hotspot' and '27 fling boogie' tips still sit with me 5 years after I found her website.

Consider buying your mom a timer and sending her to flylady.net

WgXcQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:09:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Letting go of things is easier if she only looks at them and doesn't touch them. I'll copy a comment I made above:

Also, if you have a friend who has the time for that, it also helps to not touch things you are trying to decide about keeping or tossing/donating. There've been studies done that show that physical touch creates an emotional bond that makes it harder to let go of things (salespeople use that when they try to hand you things for you to "just have a look at"). It's easier to let things go when the friend holds them up in front of you and then places them in the keep or give-away pile, without you touching them.

I recommend the book "Stuff: Compulsive Hoarding and the Meaning of Things" by Gail Steketee and Randy Frost. It describes the cases of many different hoarders, some historic, and how they treated them. The authors were some of the first psychologists to concentrate on hoarding, and the way the cases are described and the insights of the patients themselves is truly fascinating. There were a lot of things I recognized in there and some true a-ha! moments. I have cases of borderline hoarding on both sides of the family and am watchful because I inherited/learned a number of behaviours that make it hard for me to let go of things, too. The book has helped me to better understand the reasons behind it. I can thoroughly recommend it.

quasiix ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:48:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom was a semi hoarder and my step-mom was an OCD cleaner. I managed to fall somewhere around the middle thank goodness.

AMHousewife ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:08:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My paternal grandmother was a hoarder. I like to think I'm a happy medium.

[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 05:30:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:25:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's actually impressive, considering the amount of work that must have taken. If I can play armchair psychologist here I'd say that they were trying to work on the problem without actually addressing the root issue. Like hey, if they put everything into a neatly labeled box then they're clearly making an effort and progress, right?

My mom didn't even try that hard, she just got everyone to move around her crap every few months and then called it a "cleaning project" lol

Severe_Punishment ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:28:10 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Could be. I haven't spent much time trying to analyze it...just know that boxes in boxes sends a shiver down my spine now.

I can't imagine living in an environment where a little thing like freedom of movement was a gift to be treasured. The toughest thing in the world is getting someone to change their opinion on something. When a suggestion feels like an attack that helpful note can be the start of a breakdown in communication and relationships. Powerful things those words.

LHOOQatme ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:25:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandmother's a semi-hoarder. Result: my mother hates 'useless shit' such as reposition pieces and warranty terms of expensive electronics. Result: everytime something new is bought I have to dive through the trash to be sure she didn't dispose of anything vital, and hide it from her sight for her not to throw a tantrum about how much of a "hoarder" I am

Blazemonkey ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:12:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh gawd. I moved in with my mom temporarily after I moved across the country. She threw out the box for my PC chassis. I was sooo pissed. Not only do I keep the box and packing materials so I can easily transport my systems, I also store in it any accessories that belong to the equipment installed in it. It was gonzo. A Lian Li chassis box and all sorts of accessories for the chassis, power supply and other components. I gave the case away after that. It was too stressful to think about.

mr_trick ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:02:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am sort of like this. I hate anything I don't use often taking up space. As a happy medium, if I have any documents I want to keep, I scan them in, keep them in a folder on my computer, and then toss the actual paper. Obviously for certain documents this doesn't work, but for receipts, terms of warranty, lists, etc. it acts as a sort of in between. I can refer to it, but it doesn't take up space.

Lunchbawks7187 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:54:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom is the same. I've been living here the past couple months and it's fucking painful. On top of that she's messy as fuck. She'll literally put garbage on the counter above the fucking trash can, for absolutely no damn reason! I went into her office earlier looking for the dustpan and there's actual garbage all over the floor, and it's not easy to clean up because she let the dogs shred it....while she sat 2 feet away and did nothing about it. It fucking blows my mind how fucking disgusting she lets the house get if I don't do anything about it, and it was far worse before I was here.

EpinephrineEpiphany ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:11:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here. It's not "dead cats in the fridge" levels of terrible, so I guesd it's not technically "hoarding", but I used to wonder why we even own some things on an almost daily basis because our house was filled with useless crap lying in random places.

procrastimom ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:57:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom is a semi-hoarder (only one room that you can't get into, but stacks of stuff everywhere). I once visited and she had about 6 complete sets of dishes (full place settings for 4-6 people, she lives alone) because "she likes the different patterns". There's no free space anywhere, you can't even set down a drink without moving some "nifty antique". She's probably got 3 houses full of furniture in her small house, and stuff at other people's houses, too.

When I watch those "buried alive"-type hoarding shows, I feel panicky and start to throw stuff out. When my mom watches them she says "Well, I'm not a hoarder, because I'm not as bad as that."

WgXcQ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:15:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If there's a room you can't get into anymore, that qualifies as actual, full-on hoarding.

Here's a visual scale of degrees of hoarding, maybe it helps her realize where she stands when she looks at them:

http://www.hoardingconnectioncc.org/Hoarding_cir.pdf

And I would take a picture of her rooms, not just have her look at them when making the comparison. For some reason, our brain edits things we look at in real life and they appear more organized to us. Pictures are more objective, to the point where hoarders sometimes refuse to believe a photo they are shown has been taken of their place. They insist it's from somewhere else, because their room doesn't look that bad.

I recommend the book "Stuff: Compulsive Hoarding and the Meaning of Things" by Gail Steketee and Randy Frost. It takes a look at different hoarding cases and explains a lot of the psychology behind it. They are actually the psychologists who were the first to create a visual scale.

imalittleC-3PO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:58:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In line with this my mom isn't exactly a hoarder but definitely not a clean person. I gag a lil bit when I go to her house now and if it wasn't for my SO being obsessively clean I would've ended up just like her.

ClassyUser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom was obsessively clean, my longtime roommates mom was semi hoarder. It is much easier to back off cleaning standards than to learn how to clean at 20+ years old.

nacho-average-food ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ditto, so many times over. I can't keep anything clean, but no matter how bad it gets, it's always worse outside of my room.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:33:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a result of growing up under sort-of-hoarders, I have a total of like 6 non-functional belongings.

wlee1987 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:45:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I miss read that as hoar. I had to reread that

Zardif ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:23:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother is a hoarder but claims it's OK because she keeps it to a few rooms (her office the garage and her bedroom) but I know once all the kids move out its going to creep and the house will end up a mess.

spiritbx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:25:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Put them in the same house, turn on the cameras, get youtube famous.

IAmADudette ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:32:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Any obsessive behaviour is never healthy to live with unfortunately :(

clamsmasher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:35:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My wife is a hoarder, but she will flip her shit if you tell her that. To her, a hoarder is someone like the tv show, cat corpses, mountains of newspapaers, trash everywhere etc. She just never wants to throw away / give away stuff. So we have a big house with more rooms than we need, the extra rooms have boxes and furniture in them, the garage is so full we can't use it for cars, the attic and basement are the same way, and we rent a storage unit.

I can't convince her to just get rid of this shit. Christ, she has wall lined with rubber maid bins full of stuff from college that she hasn't opened since then. She graduated 20 years ago.

DJ_Marxman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:01:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad just passed away a few weeks ago. Upon entering his basement for the first time in years, I discovered several rooms literally stacked to the ceiling with crap. Empty Amazon boxes, giant cases of years-out-of-date food, old mattresses, a couch with dog vomit stains on it (my dad's dog died 5 or 6 years ago). It was eye-opening.

Turns out he kept the upstairs "straight" (not clean), but the basement was his dumping ground for anything he ever owned.

lordcheeto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:04:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The worst thing is how much room the cabs take up.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:16:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandparents were bad enough hoarders that they could've been on the TV show, and my mom picked up enough of it to really fuck up our house. There were piles halfway to the ceiling in the living room, we had one side room that was completely closed off due to all the shit, 2 sheds in the backyard, she had a self storage unit, and us kids had to store her crap in our closets too. It was such a pain to live in that mess and we couldn't ever invite people over.

Occasionally she'd get everyone to work on a big project to "clean" everything up. In reality we'd just move the majority of the mess to a different room. She loved to rope my friends into working on it for her, and the one time I brought a girl home we had to clean her bedroom and we found condoms underneath the bed.

Now I live by myself, and I manage to fit in a 200 Sq ft studio just fine. I'm traveling to NYC for a week right now and I just brought a backpack. My mom stayed at my grandma's for one night and she needed help with her bags from the car to the house and back.

Lokfar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:34:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom has kept everything single thing that my brother, sister, and I have owned. Every toy, piece of clothing, homework assignment, test. Hell! She even has pieces of our hair from when we got haircuts, all stored and labeled in envelopes.

This is why we have 6 rental storage units and 3 storage sheds built in our backyard, and a garage filled to the ceiling with nothing but more storage.

I don't know how my dad has dealt with this for the last 21 years.

Built-In ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:41:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

/r/hoarding offers good resources and support for those who have these tendencies and for those that have hoarders in their lives.

lhedn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:50:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Because your obsessive mother is worse than another persons obsessive mother?

Mu69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No cause I would rather have a clean obsessive mother over a dirty one.

Throwawaymyheart01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:04:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Both are probably behaviors based on extreme anxiety interestingly enough.

Epic_Brunch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:06:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mine too! I've become a neat freak and I'm pretty sure it's her fault. Every available surface in the house is covered with junk, including the kitchen table which no longer gets used because they'd have to clean it off to do so.

notfunnybutheyitried ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:46:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom's a semi hoarder and obsessively clean at the same time. It's weird.

nightlyraider ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:53:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

my parents definitely have traits of hoarding. it isn't so much that they have too much stuff, but letting go of anything is extremely difficult.

moving out on my own and having an empty closet in my apartment was a good feeling. not needing to fully surround myself with "stuff" is nice.

uber1337h4xx0r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:12:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why are you calling your promiscuous mother a door? That's kind of mean. Don't call her a door

asbestos_fingers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:19:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You must have a pretty big property for her to hoard semi trucks

Schruef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:30:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How many trucks does she have??

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:32:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She must have quite the garage. How many semi's does she have now?

Tripplite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:48:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Where does she find the room to park them?

Of course, if you have a normal yard, just one unneeded semi could be hoarding.

AckmanDESU ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:49:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I went to my dad's house yesterday and there was a fucking swimming pool ladder in my old room, among a million other things that made it impossible to walk in or move the door even an inch.

jiizu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:51:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm trying to decide if this would be better or worse than having a mother that compulsively throws everything away.

PENlS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:01:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Semis are a pretty damn expensive thing to hoard.

bitey87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:14:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You must be out in the country with plenty of space for all those semis your mom hordes.

HLef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:37:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How mani semis can she possibly have?

falconfetus8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:48:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good God. How does she fit all of those semis in her house?!

Velcade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:51:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A semi hoarder?! Shit my mom collected Santas and I thought that was bad enough but semis. That's intense.

harbison215 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:04:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Agreed. My mom wasn't a dirty person, she was just the type who was often scared to throw away or discard things she no longer used. In response, I think I've grown to be too quick to toss things. I have 0 patience for even house hold knick knacks so my condo ends up looking like Patrick Bateman's.

ButterFlamingo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:14:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad is a semi-hoarder. I had to help my parents clean their basement last night, and his face teared up when we trashed useless shit nobody remembered anymore.

Lady_Digress ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:17:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom is a bit of a hoarder too. It took me a while to realize you don't actually need every receipt, bank stub, pay slip, old bill, piece of mail, or instruction booklet you've ever received. It's still hard to throw them away though along with boxes things come in and broken stuff. My fiancรฉ has to constantly stay on me about throwing things out and I still try to talk him into letting me keep it "just in case".

swizzler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:42:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do you get a lot of truckers hanging around her...because of all the semis?

Jst_curious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:55:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My father is a semi hoarder and my mother encourages it. I find it difficult to throw things away - there's been a few occasions where it's paid off and I actually needed a few items or I've re-purposed it, I love these 'mini projects'. Makes me think I'm saving money and I've achieved something useful. I also like to buy foods with nice-looking glass jars so that I can reuse that jar afterwards. I like to see myself as thrifty.

uminyuq ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:10:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandma is a hoarder

Thatscuzuralesbian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:12:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom was obsessively clean and now I'm a semi hoarder. I don't hoard garbage or anything, but clothes, cards, trinkets, and the like are all over the place. Getting rid of things gives me anxiety.

gravityapple ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:31:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mine was too. I once broke a finger tripping over a pile.

MOTHERLOVR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:34:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How many semis does she have?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:08:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel you, I've got both. My mom is a bit of a hoarder, but also has to have everything clean. As a result, whenever I've got too much crap (she gives me crap, and I'm grateful but it's stuff I don't need, like small figurines) I get yelled at for not putting 'my' stuff away, even though I have no room for it. Ugh.

whitemills ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:26:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
whiskeytango55 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

where does she find space for all those trucks?

KitchenSwillForPigs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My high school boyfriend's dad was a hoarder. It was horrible. I'm sorry. I could barely stand to be in that house. I can't imagine living there.

vanillachaide ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:46:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She hoards semi trucks? How does she have room to keep them?

CanadianJesus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom is a semi hoarder too, there are like 12 semi trucks in her house.

Sciaphobia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

semi hoarder

Where does she park them all?

Krafty_Koala ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:30:29 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom is a hoarder. I've always hated newspapers because of there were always piles of them in the house growing up.

andgonow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:04:35 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have an interesting one. Dad is a hoarder, mom is obsessively clean. They are still together. One part of the house is completely disgusting, the other part is like a museum. I got the worst of both worlds. :(

benaugustine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:44:01 on August 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus! You guys must have had a huge yard! How many semis did she own?

waltjrimmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Man, I've heard some stories. But hoarding semis? That's bad ass. I just can't figure out where she would keep all those trucks.

Sr-wilson ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:53:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I went into labor early , because my mom didn't wanted to trow away a car toy, that she was using as "Pot" just full with dirt and mosquitos, I hsve to bring it back inside, after a huge argument about :|

RhymesWithPickle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:43:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm confused. How did the pot of dirt make you go into labor early?

PackPup ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:28:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your Mon can hoard my semi.

MissMillyMinkins ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 04:54:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Had my mom to visit recently... She swept my house every day. I think she swept it twice a few times.

I hid the broom one night. Woke up in the morning to her sweeping the house.

quinky ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 08:55:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Did she buy a new broom or find the old one?

Rotom-W ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:04:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It was her own personal one that she keeps in her purse.

MissMillyMinkins ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:56:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Found it. I gave in to incessant sweeping after that.

SpiderOnTheInterwebs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:56:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Asking the important questions

comic_serif ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:24:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She's established a strong enough relationship with the broom gods to summon one at will if necessary.

Touchthefuckingfrog ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 05:09:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am obsessively clean because my parents house is fucking disgusting. 18 years of living there and they have never wiped the front of their kitchen cupboards, 18 years of spilled food dripped down them.

AMHousewife ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:44:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is fucking disgusting.

Touchthefuckingfrog ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:35:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know. I can't get the balance right, I don't want to be obsessively clean but I feel like I am failing my family if I am not.

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 09:21:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Are you diagnosed with OCD? I am and recognize the ''failing'' bit with cleaning, but it's more that I'm failing myself.

why the hell is someone downvoting me ?

Touchthefuckingfrog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:50:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No I am diagnosed with depression and anxiety.

BlackViperMWG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well then it's actually good if you have the will and energy to clean things, even if it's obsessively.

Touchthefuckingfrog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:56:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I definitely have the will but I also have chronic pain issues, sometimes I will be in so much pain that I am crying while mopping the floors for the second time that day because they don't look clean. Oh well it could be worse.

claier ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:28:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Saaaaame. A few months ago, I cleaned the bathroom floor and my dad said that was probably the first time it'd been cleaned in 18 years. How can someone live like that???

Touchthefuckingfrog ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:01:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No fucking idea. What kills me is my parents built this really beautiful house, spend a fortune on antique furniture and ornaments and fucking live in the disgusting, dust caked, fetid, foul... you get my drift.

[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:45:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

the thought of a messy carpet makes me twitch too

Andabez ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:18:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Right? Like how hard is it to vacuum?

MangoMambo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:18:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not hard, it just doesn't bother some people that much.

-del2phi ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:46:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As long as you don't leave pins or needles on the carpet...

kickasschemist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:55:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I call those protective landmines. No one barges into my room when I've been sewing.

TheGinger07 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

the real reason they get that pins and needles feeling

_Green_Kyanite_ ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:05:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad is like this. The last time he visited me in college, he actually bullied me into cleaning my guinea pig's cage while he stood over me and lectured me on how to clean it. (I was so sick standing made me dizzy, which is why the cage was dirty.)

I'm having the worst time figuring out what an "appropriate" level of cleanliness is for guests now. The last time I had somebody over, I didn't do the baseboards, and intentionally left some (attractive) clutter out. They still called the place freakishly clean. Although I guess that's a step up from "creepy" or "museum-like."

WgXcQ ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:28:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I will never, ever notice what someone's baseboards look like. Nor check for dust bunnies in corners or under sofas. As long as carpets don't crunch and kitchen and bathroom are reasonably clean, we are cool. And by reasonably I mean, they don't have to be freshly cleaned, I just don't want to be grossed out by the thought of having a glass of water at your place or using the loo.

Having a pile of papers somewhere, or a clothes rack or something similar is fine as well.

Basically, there is no need to erase evidence of you living there. I like seeing signs of the host being the inhabitant and not just another visitor in their own place.

You dad sounds like a control-freak asshole, if you don't mind me saying. If my kid were sick, I'd bring them food and medicine, make them a hot water bottle and clean the damn cage myself, so they don't have to worry about it (and not to shame them about not having done it). What he did was in no way, shape or form ok. And I see how his behaviour towards you could make you unsure about what is considered normal, because his measurements seem to be waaay off.

_Green_Kyanite_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:02:00 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, my dad is totally a control-freak asshole and definitely warped my sense of normality.

Cleaning is just one of the things I'm trying to re-teach myself. (Along with what kind of "funny" family stories actually scare people, what are healthy coping mechanisms for anxiety, how to make other people a meal without going totally over the top, how to stop ignoring my health due to fear of inconveniencing others...)

Flinkle ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:34:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh my god, one of my best friends is obsessive like that because of her mother. She said tonight (and a couple of nights ago, too) that she's sure DFCS would take her kids away if they saw her house...all because they have the carpet ripped up and they're walking on the bare particle board flooring, getting ready to install laminate flooring. I basically told her that she was an idiot, and had obviously never seen some of the homes that children have actually been removed from--like the one I saw years ago with a friend, that had garbage knee-deep in the living room. Literally.

Mragftw ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:45:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandma was such a clean freak while my dad was growing up that she cleaned the house one day and then just locked the door. Everyone slept in a mobile home trailer in the yard...

Flinkle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Welp, that's one way to keep it clean...

Pizza_Delivery_Dog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:45:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I went to a friend's house once and she warned me that it would be a mess. It was freaking spotless. The "mess" was a slightly untidy living room (blanket on the couch etc). It's a student house too! She'd have a heart attack if she saw my house

Flinkle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:09:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, people who don't know what actual messes are make me a little crazy. I'd like to invite them over for a dose of reality, haha.

YouMeAndSymmetry ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:12:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My aunt would lose her shit. We were only allowed to walk on this rubber shit she had that lead to every bedroom/bathroom, even though we had to take our shoes off outside. She also keeps the same rubber shit in her sewing area. Her tile kitchen and sons' rooms were okay to walk in. But we had to ask permission to use the jukebox in her living room, even though the couch was okay. And permission for the playroom, because that was also the trophy room.

Can't believe I'm considering buying that house after all the rules I dealt with there.

Vanvidum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:27:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I suppose the advantage is that you know the house is unlikely to have any mold or insect infestations, and the floors are probably in like-new condition.

And once it's yours, you can christen it by spilling something on the mat-less floors.

MiserableLurker ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:03:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Carpet scraps?

You have rebelled...

AMHousewife ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:09:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have a sink full of dirty dishes!

Jennica ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:33:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Party at your house!!

hippocratical ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:46:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You monster.

biggerx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As long as they don't get moldy or stinky. Just make sure they're not there for more than a day and you're good.

MiserableLurker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:22:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're gonna put that red shirt in with the whites, aren't ya'...?

Econdg ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:17:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

my parents get mad I'm a germaphobe. I don't care about the dust like you said, just take 2 showers a day and use Purrell

felesroo ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 08:41:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hope you are seeing someone about your germaphobia. Trying to keep every germ away from you will do you more harm than good. After all, you are covered and filled with friendly bacteria that protect you from all sorts of things. The Purell doesn't know that.

Also, that shit is nasty. Research has shown that triclosan, the "germ-killing" stuff in hand sanitizer, can disrupt the endocrine system, amplifying testosterone. In animal studies, it reduced muscle strength. It may also harm the immune system. It's also less effective than simple soap and water.

Now, I'm not suggesting you go lick a subway seat in NYC, but keeping your hands off your face, washing your hands when you get home, taking your shoes off to not track dirt into the house, and keeping doorknobs and light switches clean is generally enough unless you have a compromised immune system. Hell, I went through 6 months of chemotherapy without any issue simply doing the above. I didn't even have a thorough shower during the first part of it because I had come off a pretty horrendous surgery.

I hope you can beat your germaphobia. It's not a boutique issue, it can have quite serious implications for your health in the long term. Best of luck to you.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:25:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It is absolutely fucking horrible.

volatile_chemicals ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:08:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, the extra used water would irritate me, but other than that, you're actually pretty okay from what you said.

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:44:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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crispychoc ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:39:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Depends where you live and what you do for work.

I often take two, one before work to wake me up, one after work (either there or at home) because After a 10h shift in a clinic, you don't want to put your skanky body in a clean bed.

Also, live on the Mediterranean, it's hot, sticky, so a shower is nice to cool you down.

Halcyon-Sancta ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:53:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

After a long day of hard labor, skipping that second shower would feel really gross. Maybe it's just me, but I'm not too crazy about the idea of going to bed all sweaty and oily.

nimrod1109 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:08:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't understand were the first shower comes into play?

Imnotveryfunatpartys ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:19:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Most men shower in the morning. If they work at a dirty job they will shower when they get home. This is normal.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:30:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

why the hell shower in the morning. What are you doing all night? Hot yoga?

skiddie2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:57:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In my experience (ie, living in shared houses) most people shower in the morning rather than the evening.

getinmyx-wing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:29:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I like sleep more than I like having to blow dry and fix my hair.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In my experience as well. But you know what they say: if all your friends jump off a bridge, do you do it too?

No. Because showering in the morning is dumb.

Valkonn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:22:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why would you take a shower, sleep, and then shower again?

Unless you're sweating in your sleep, which you shouldn't be if you have an AC or its cold.

InformationMagpie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:37:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

A lot of people prefer to shave in the shower.

Showering also helps to wake you up in the morning.

Imnotveryfunatpartys ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:50:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, some people actually have sex at night.

nimrod1109 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know anyone who showers in the morning if they shower at night.

Halcyon-Sancta ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:31:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One before work, one after. I know some people can just do the nightly shower thing and be fine, but I look like a mess without doing it in the morning.

dezeiram ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:50:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I sweat when I sleep and then I get sweaty and gross during the day :( u need dem showers

volatile_chemicals ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:45:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's what I was saying. 1 is enough. If you don't stink or have anything important to do, weekends can possibly be skipped, but I still shower on weekends anyway.

MissMillyMinkins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:53:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not if you work in a school. Sometimes I feel like I need to take two showers in a row after I get home.

bubnicklenine ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:59:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She obviously wasn't obsessive about grammar either...I'm an asshole

AMHousewife ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:39:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Meh, let's call that a sentence formatting brain fart.

bubnicklenine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haha deal, I just decided to jump on the Reddit grammar nazi train

AMHousewife ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:33:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hell, free editing services are free. I am not upset when my grammar is corrected.

However, had you called me a "looser" for it, I would have lost my shit.

miserylovescomputers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:54:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My stepmother is like that. I spent a few year rebelling against it, then a few years embracing it, and now I feel like I basically clean like a normal person. Nothing is ever gross, but I don't lose my mind over a tiny bit of dust on the baseboards or doorframes.

friedkeenan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:03:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your mom was Danny Tanner, and you were Michelle

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:17:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I could sterilize my room so that there is absolutely no dirt or dust left in my room and my mom would still claim "it was dirty and needed cleaning"

I modified my door with a lock for the last 2 years I was living with them. Best decision ever.

Lady_Generic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:20:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom is the opposite. I love her so much, but she just doesn't give a shit. She lets things get gross. I married someone who is not OCD, but a clean freak? He is always organizing something or cleaning something. I'm not very good at organization or keeping on task, so that bugs him but he knows it could always be worse. Ha

TruthFromAnAsshole ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:05:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ever had to iron a pillow case ?

SilverVixen1928 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:08:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you sew, "May you always have threads on your clothes."

If you have pets, "May you always have fur on your clothes."

I have cats and I sew. I'm retired. I don't care. Zing!

Archgaull ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same. It took me years to realize that I'm not a messy person, she's just takes clean to a crazy amount. To my friends I'm a fairly neat person, to her I'm the biggest slob in the world.

ExRegeOberonis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom is a psychopath when it comes to dishes. Like, she'll cook dinner, and use two pots, some silverware, and a measuring cup. That all must be washed immediately on finishing cooking prep - and I don't mean just put in a sink of sudsy water. I mean it must be scrubbed, rinsed, dried, put in the dish rack.

We sit down to eat, four of us, each with plates and silverware. She eats in maybe 10 minutes, tops, and goes to wash her dishes. I am a very slow eater. I can take 20, 30 minutes to finish eating dinner. At the 15 minute mark, she'd show up to my room and ask if I'm still eating. Yes, just like every other meal. And it's not that I would let my plate sit and mold over for a week straight if she didn't come collect it - I would bring my plate down as soon as I was done, in half an hour or so. But as soon as she's done cooking, the dishes are going to be washed and yours needs to be in there or it might escape or something.

I'm a fan of keeping your dishes tidy so you don't have to do dishes every time you want to cook food or something. I understand cleanliness. I don't feel the need to eat with one hand and wash the plate behind me with the other.

With-a-Cactus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's fine, Monica, we love you for who you are.

Brad1nator2211 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can you send her to my place to clean my room? I'd imagine she would clean it fairly well. As an 18 year old male, cleaning my room is definitely not my strong suit and its... quite dirty...

AMHousewife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:42:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My oldest son left for the Navy at 18. I cleaned his room. It was not cool. Not cool at all.

peepeeparty9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:42:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have like 4 different piles of cloths in my room and my closet has about 80% of it's floor space taken just enough room for one person to walk in and grab a shirt out.

AMHousewife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:48:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My old cat taught me not to keep piles of clothes on the floor. He mistook them for litter boxes.

jaab1997 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:43:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Obsessive cleanliness is one of the things I thank my parents for lol.

ScumEater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:51:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

see my carpet right now. I've been sewing. There is scraps and threads all over.

Gross.

fortheloveoffries ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Literally have the opposite problem. My parents weren't not particularly tidy and my mom talked incessantly about how she was "always cleaning". Literally did not realize I didn't understand what fully clean meant until I moved out and now I'm like your mom.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents vacuumed maybe 3 times a year and I hated it! The house was always so messy and gross. Now as an adult I'm obsessively clean.

Aduke1122 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is me and I got it from my Mom also but I still can't shake it .

getinmyx-wing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:21:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My maternal grandmother is obsessively clean as well. Mops five times a day, has a different product for every surface in her home, etc. Because of this, my mom has a very warped idea of what a dirty home looks like. It always baffled me as a child because I'd go to my peers' homes and see laundry, clutter, and dishes piled up, yet my mother would break down in tears if someone saw our living room with anything more than a magazine or two on the coffee table. It wasn't till I reached adulthood and grasped the full extent of my grandmother's neurotic behavior that I realized why my mother equated mistook "neat by normal standards" for absolute squalor.

gegemoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:23:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom is germaphobic. Not only she requires everybody in the family to change clothes once we get back home from outside, she has designated clothes to where in different areas / for different activities inside the house. If I've sat on the living room sofa in my PJ, I'm not allowed to go to bed in them, because she thinks I would bring germs into the bed. And I cannot wear the same shirt before and after shower even though it's a clean shirt that I just pulled in out of the wardrobe one hour ago.

I'm still struggling to not change clothes several times a day in my own apartment.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:26:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandma was obsessively clean, and was crazy organized; not a thing out of place. In order to break away from that because of how limiting and structured it was, my dad became a hoarder. Ergo, I grew up in a messy house, never really needing to clean, and I can't break out of that and become a clean or organized person. My life isn't disgusting (There's not moldy food or anything like that), but it is absolutely ridiculously messy and looks like I haven't cleaned in years. It's strange how we become similar or different from our parents; One person becomes the opposite to spite them or separate themselves, while another grows up to be identical.

WgXcQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:57:23 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think my dad was influenced by something like that as well. He's very close to being a hoarder, and my mum always has to fight to keep at least the living areas free of his stuff. She told me that when he and his brothers were kids, they were only allowed to have one not very big box of personal belongings under their bed, and anything that went beyond that or was lying around would just be thrown away. I can see how that could give someone issues with orderliness and letting go of things.

KeenBlade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:36:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Did you have to scrape the base moldings?

AMHousewife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My little sister and I used to have to clean them with toothbrushes. Most of the time though she'd be happy vacuuming them and she loves her vacuum, but then she'd decide they were grimy and we'd have to do the washing.

clomjompsonjim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:53:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sort of the opposite. I don't mind mess so much but I've become almost germ phobic as I've gotten older. I clean so obsessively it's weird, my mum was never overly dirty or a clean freak. I'm now the clean freak. I was my hands a lot too.

Shybrenn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:43:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

On the plus side, invite mom over, house cleaned for free!

AntiEmerald ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:49:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She'd be so tilted

Sapphire1166 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:08:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Former child of another OCD cleaning mom here. My mom really messed me up in terms of that. Everything had to be PERFECT and clean and if you made even the littlest mess (as kids are prone to do) you paid for it dearly. Once got slapped in the face at age 7 for folding my jeans with the crease down the side instead of the middle. Got spanked at 6 because I forgot how to make my bed with hospital corners. My mom would vacuum daily, and then vacuum the vacuum. It took me years to realize that other people don't live like this, and even now as an adult I keep a socially acceptable normal of clean in my house but still feel like a guilty horrible mother when I see a dust bunny in the corner.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:23:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You glossed over the part where you made your husband's life miserable by demanding he be as clean as you.

Atheist_Simon_Haddad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:58:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We're cleaning it, not selling it.

Hey_-_-_Zeus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:11:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Username confirms

MaiLinna ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:15:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A couple years into marriage to fix it? Dear Lord I feel so much better. XD We're a couple months away from common law and it's been driving my fiance NUTS

Crazycatlover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:20:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother visited recently. I cleaned my apartment thoroughly before she arrived: ironed the guests' sheets, scrubbed the baseboards, dusted the plants and ceiling fans, etc. I caught her ironing my sheets which raises several questions: A) how could she tell they weren't ironed in the first place? B) why did she unmake my bed to check? C) If she was going to iron the damn things, why not wash them first? (seriously, that's the one that makes least sense to me).

GrumpyKitten1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:00:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wash the laundry but my husband folds it and puts it away because I don't fold his underwear correctly or hang like colored shirts together. I suspect his mother and yours may have a few things in common.

AMHousewife ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:55:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother irons everything and then all the clothes have to hang a certain way in the closet. I iron one or two shirts and that's it.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:23:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Last time my mom was over she made me so anxious because she started cleaning my apartment and her reaction when I told her to stop because I had cleaned earlier that week was "really?"

I know I'm not the neatest person, but that stung because despite all her insistence that she's not obsessed with housekeeping, I grew up with her tut-tutting at how "I don't know how people can live like that" or worse when it came to other people's homes.

She failed to understand how anxious her cleaning made me feel.

Ironically, after she left from that visit I fell in a funk and didn't clean much after myself. When I had friends over and only did a quick spot-clean they were shocked at my place because "it's usually so clean."

KWITHI ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:40:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom is the same way, but honestly as I've grown up I've begun to really appreciate it.

I feel so much calmer and happier when my surroundings are clean and tidy. When I can walk around with bare feet and not get little crumbs or whatever stuck to them.

And I like living in a place that looks nice and clean. It also makes it super easy to find what you're looking for when everything has a place.

But it's hard when you are like this and the person/people you live with aren't, because you feel like all your hard work is unappreciated and it can make you bitter.

AMHousewife ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:57:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm clean and organized. I'm not obsessively clean and organized. If dishes get left over night, so? If laundry gets done once a week, so? If I don't spray air freshener after I pee, so?

5redrb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:50:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I'm wiring a guitar, I throw the bits of insulation I strip off of the wire on the floor.

ShintakiShrooms2002 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:53:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is my mom. In her eyes I'm as dirty as a rat.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:09:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is my mom to a T. You would set something down for a second and she would stuff it in a drawer somewhere. Outta sight outta mind mentality.

AMHousewife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:53:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes! I'd have my books spread over the table doing my homework, get up to use the bathroom, come back to them put away.

msprang ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:34:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm twitching just thinking about it.

soitswings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:39:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same! I had to learn you can use a towel more than once.

phantomfluffr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:44:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hope your mother wouldn't sew a tantrum after seeing the scraps on the floor.

-apricotmango ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:55:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I go go to my moms house, if i throw something into the bathroom trash she will go in and take it the item out and throw it in the garage trash.
This happens everytime.

ladyjeans2327 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:56:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom washed her shower for 7 months... i completely understand those standards.

ObeseMoreece ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:06:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mum has been getting obsessively worse over the last few years since I left for uni (I'm the youngest child) and every time I get home she does more and more cleaning. We have a 5 bedroom house so it takes its toll. She also has a degenerative nerve diseases in her hands which makes it far far worse. She will scream at people for not helping her clean to the ridiculous standards she wants and refuses to lower those standards for the sake of her hands. Thankfully they're going to downsize as soon as they find a plot and the housing market is better.

Epamynondas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:14:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

threads are the cleanest piece of "dirt" there is, i lovem

wigglyjiggly77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:22:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

OMG I'm currently going through this! It happened once my fiancรฉ and I got engaged and it's like I automatically assumed my role of "home maker." Let me tell you, I mop the floors 3x a week, wash the walls, and if I can feel dirt beneath my feet I go into full cleaning mode. It's exhausting! I stress so badly if there's a mess!

jcheah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:05:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're not the only one. Hang in there

man-of-God-1023 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:21:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Monica?

justarandomlass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:27:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same with my mum, she's obsessed with cleaning and making sure the place is spotless and smelling of cleaning products.

In high school I was expected to clean the place for when she got back (I got home at 4:30, she would come home at 5:00 or 5:10) and if it wasn't up to her standard she would flip her shit and yell at me as though it was my fault because I should know that my dad and brother wouldn't clean up.

One time I had to be somewhere so I spent the whole morning scrubbing, wiping, dusting, hoovering etc. before I got the 12:30 bus. I got home at 4:50 and it was like I didn't do anything. I ended up having a panic attack because I knew I wouldn't be able to clean the place by the time she got back. Apparently I was being an over dramatic attention seeker.

Having a parent so obsessed with cleaning is not fun.

PsystrikeSmash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:41:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I would twitched just reading that, please, clean it up.

AMHousewife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:51:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I did. Otherwise my cats would eat threads all night.

PsystrikeSmash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:10:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you.

Tess47 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:42:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've been told that my mother was a bipolar cleaner. It makes sense as an adult. We never knew the household standards.

honeynut-queerios ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:59:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom was like this. She's the only person I know who actually would enjoy just cleaning their house all day, every day. We'd be about to walk out the door to go to dinner or the store, and she'd start wiping the kitchen counter or a shelf and before you know it you're begging her to put the vacuum away 30 minutes later.

I still get anxiety about her coming over and thinking my house is a mess. I spend at least 3 hours straight just tidying up before she comes over and then I get frustrated and give up.

Maybe one day I'll be as clean as my mother, but probably not today.

willehahr ยท 13968 points ยท Posted at 00:50:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cooking chicken...

Until college, I thought that chicken was supposed to be dry. I hated it. My buddy cooked me chicken parmesan and it was the best chicken I ever had.

abhikavi ยท 9988 points ยท Posted at 02:47:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom is paranoid and overcooks the hell out of everything to 'make sure it's safe'. Wasn't until I dated someone who cooked with a thermometer that I realized that meat doesn't have to taste like cardboard.

I bought my mom an instant-read thermometer and have tried to get her to use it, but she can't shake that feeling of 'it's not done enough' unless it's been cooked twice as long as it should be. Bonus: she also hates cooking because it takes so long (e.g. 30m to grill a steak).

shelteredsun ยท 9382 points ยท Posted at 03:17:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

e.g. 30m to grill a steak

This was painful to read.

abhikavi ยท 8155 points ยท Posted at 03:42:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's even more painful to eat.

Spamburgers ยท 203 points ยท Posted at 04:25:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus dude.

I'm curious if your mom also held an opinion on restaurant sanitation.

Emmia ยท 319 points ยท Posted at 04:47:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Everything must be clean, very clean. That's why the dog had to die. He was a dirty dog. Dirty, dirty. Also that boy Elroy. Dirty. Dirty.

(Coming back to edit to ask, why did my low-effort pop-culture reference get 271 points when many other people deserved your attention more?)

youcancallmealsdkf ยท 169 points ยท Posted at 04:52:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everything must be clean, very clean. That's why the dog had to die. He was a dirty dog. Dirty, dirty. Also that boy Elroy. Dirty. Dirty.

Sounds like something a Stephen King character would mumble as they're mopping up the spilled blood of the family dog and the neighbor's kid.

Xunae ยท 123 points ยท Posted at 05:16:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's a reference to a futurama parody of the Jetsons' maid robot, Rosie.

Cuchullion ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 13:28:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

While in the HAL Institute for Criminally Insane Robots, which is hilarious on it's own.

Saggylicious ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 08:43:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The burecrat that replaces Hermes, right?

ThatBoogieman ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:56:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, she was in the episode where Bender and Fry get sent to the Robot Asylum, I think we only see her in that first group therapy session.

Saggylicious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:50:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ah, I was thinking of the woman who was turned on by Fry's dirtiness.

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Saggylicious ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:56:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She was a grade #19, if i remember the song right.

g-g-g-g-ghost ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:53:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Only the grade 19s

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Tyranid457 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:14:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some sort of virus or supernatural phenomenon that exacerbates a person's fears/phobias/worries to the point of insanity?

A germophobic housewife who kills her pet and her neighbor for "being dirty" after spending hours cleaning the house, and the protagonists would stumble upon the scene you described, with her mopping up afterwards and repeating the words.

GasPistonMustardRace ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:13:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some sort of virus or supernatural phenomenon

Pretty sure King would just make it a sex thing. I know that's unfair considering the majorly supernatural nature of his body of work...but people's quirks always seem to have a sexual bent within the supernatural arc.

youcancallmealsdkf ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:04:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was wondering if anyone else noticed that: he's ALWAYS gotta put some sort of really weird sexual scene in his books. And they never really add to the story or any character arcs very much; it's almost like he does it just so he can get a nut off while he's writing.

SomeDonkus1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:19:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I haven't much of his work, but I did read most of The Stand Unedited edition, and iirc there was a scene where the Trashcan man gets homosexually raped by a guy who makes him jerk him off and holds him at gunpoint with the gun in the guy's asshole. I swear I'm not making it up, but it's been a couple years. It sounds crazy, but I remember that. Can someone else who has read it more recently confirm the fucked up gay rape scene?

RonPolyp ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:49:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you care to give it a go, check out any of his short story collections. In my opinion he's a true Jedi master of short stories.

With a handful of brilliant exceptions, his full-length novels aren't all that great. They tend to either go on and on and on until I gradually lose interest, or they're really good up until the final 2 or 3 chapters, which become a ridiculous shambles.

SomeDonkus1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:47:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I read Skeleton Crew and I really liked the stories in that one. I also read Christine, and I can honestly say that I enjoyed the movie better.

youcancallmealsdkf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:10:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep, I also read the 1130 page unabridged version of The Stand and can confirm this is an actual scene that King actually wrote โ—‰_โ—‰

SomeDonkus1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:44:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The whole time I was reading it I wondered if it was gonna go anywhere to mean something. Nope. Just a weird rape scene.

BritneySmears ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:54:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe because it stirs up a lot of different emotions in different people. Sex can be great or terrible depending on your point of view. Try reading some Palahniuk.

youcancallmealsdkf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:56:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Palahniuk does sex right in my opinion, much better than King.

BritneySmears ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'll agree it's different.

ExactlyUnlikeTea ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:00:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly I figured it WAS a King line or something

blalkr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:18:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's very Stephen King indeed.

whatsausername90 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:48:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Looks like we need to turn Hillary off and on again.

maximum0428 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I literally just watched that episode less than an hour ago. What an interesting coincidence

LonePaladin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Coming this Christmas: Will Smith reprises his role as Del Spooner in I, Rosie!

darth_static ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:58:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Chaaaaaaaaaaaaange places!

Supermagicalcookie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:05:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Furturama

Vorsos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:29:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mother's food must be hot.

SolaireGetGrossly ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 04:54:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What you need to tell her is that not all bacteria can be killed from heat. And yes that's true. So at the point of over cooking, all the's doing is killing the flavor

Nightguard119 ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 05:54:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do you want her to start bleaching food?

LonePaladin ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 06:18:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, God. One of my grandfather's girlfriends was the worst cook. She once served chicken, and we all thought it tasted funny. Turned out that, when the directions she was following said to clean the chicken pieces, she washed them. With scouring powder.

Cantreadmyownwriting ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:04:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm imagining this meal: https://youtu.be/Wx2sUd5vPmE

Aesthetys ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:36:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What did I just watch?

000000Coffee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:03:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That was painful to watch

Nightguard119 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:16:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Was your grandfather rich because that sounds like something a blonde 20yo golddigger would do

LonePaladin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:17:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wish. She was in her 70s, and every time she served us something it was a disaster. Thanksgiving stuffing shouldn't have the consistency of soup.

AnticitizenPrime ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:30:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Double you tee eff.

SadGhoster87 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:30:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Instructions unclear, UUTTFF.

Xperr7 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:55:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes. I'd love to eat bleached food

TrollManGoblin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:53:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Flour is often bleached.

AhhGetAwayRAWR ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 05:35:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

not all bacteria can be killed from heat

Oh, enough heat will kill anything. I'd love to see bacteria survive on the sun. But yeah cooking temperatures sure.

jsmit42 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:53:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some bacteria can live in volcano vents at the bottom of the ocean. What's your point? Heat kills the ones you need to worry about like salmonella.

Almostatimelord ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 09:14:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The corona of the sun is something like 5 and a half million degrees Fahrenheit IIRC. There are no known materials that can exist there (in a state of matter other than plasma) Let alone life that can live there.

jsmit42 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:34:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sorry, reply fail. The arguement is moot though because you can't cook in the sun and food doesn't come from the sun. Well it does, but not directly lol.

Almostatimelord ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:40:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You said bacteria can live in volcano vents so it was comparable to them being able to live in the Suns heat. I'm saying they can't and will die from heat.

[deleted] ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 05:08:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One of my dads friends grew up eating well done steak and always said they hated steak because of it. First bite into a medium rare filet was a life changer

Jeremizzle ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 06:08:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This was my experience also. Also seared or raw fish.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:00:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh yea the first time my dad made tuna filets he way overcooked them and it was gross. Next time seared them on both sides and it was amazing

cinderwild2323 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:48 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I grew up not liking fish very much, we'd usually just have fried catfish or whatever you do with salmon, which always smelled better than it tasted. Just wasn't really my thing. That said, I tried sushi recently and that stuff is pretty cool!

puppet_up ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 04:41:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's why A-1 was invented.

Nightguard119 ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 05:53:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I love A-1, people always tell me that a good steak doesn't need sauce, I tell them that a good sauce doesn't need steak

LonePaladin ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 06:16:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mmm, mmm! I don't know why they call this Hamburger Helper -- does just fine by itself.

Nightguard119 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:10:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

while cooking on the grill

MythGuy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:08:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Confirmed. I have guzzled A1 from the bottle. Nobody judge me!

Yet I also enjoy blue rare steaks without sauce.

Pizza_Delivery_Dog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:55:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

blue?

MythGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Blue rare" is a bit rarer than rare. Rare has a TV it of pink at the edge, but is predominantly red. Blue rare is a seared outside done quickly so the inside does not have a chance to turn pink. It should be browned on the outside, but red through the inside.

Nightguard119 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why not just take a bite out of the thing while its walking through a field if you aren't going to cook it at all, i don't even like rare steak

MythGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Because a cow is much bigger and stronger than I am, and likely would not appreciate the attempt.

In all seriousness, I've eaten and enjoyed raw steak, but don't do that often for obvious health reasons. But a good chunk of steak is pretty clean except for the meat that is exposed to the air, so searing quickly each exposed surface leaves it safe to eat while leaving the inside quite red. I do sometimes crave a more cooked flavor and will go up to medium rare or sometimes medium.

Nightguard119 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I cant stand the taste of blood in my steak

MythGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To each their own. I personally enjoy it.

Also, fun fact! That's not blood. The blood is removed long before it gets to you (I want to say it's drained immediately after the slaughter, but I'm not sure). That juice is a combination of water and myoglobin.
SciShow source

But I get what you're saying. You don't like that juice.

Nightguard119 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:19 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Myoglobin is an iron and oxygen binding compound, this is just a shot in the dark but i think one of the strongest ?flavours? of blood is iron so this could be related

fuck_huffman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:16:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Anything but salt, pepper and butter on my mid rare thick cut USDA choice strip steak?

slaps you across face with gloves

Prepare to duel sir!

Lol. But seriously.

bigapplecircus ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 11:42:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Choice? If it's not prime it may as well be a piece of leather

fuck_huffman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:29:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh JFC on a sidecar look at the steak snob one upping the steak snob. If it's not a a perfect mid rare of dry aged porterhouse from Ruth's Chris just feed it to your dog, amirite?

Choice or above is acceptable. It's late and I'm cranky so in closing, go fuck yourself.

bigapplecircus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:32:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was being like 99% facetious

fuck_huffman ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:36:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was being like 99% a dick.

My sarcasm detector is in the shop.

bigapplecircus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:43:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haha, happens to the best of us

fuck_huffman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:00:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lol, have a good day you beef snob you. :)

Imma having that leftover strip steak for tacos tomorrow. Talk about low brow.

darkshadow17 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:45:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ruth's Chris is not even close to worth the price. Better off going to Teds Montana grill, spend 100$ less and get better steak

dmizenopants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

While Ruth Chris is a tad overpriced, the steaks are extremely delicious and better than the time or two I've been to a Teds. Now if I really want to throw money at a steak and have it float me away on a beefy euphoric cloud of delicawesomeness I'll go to Chops or Rathbuns.

darkshadow17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:19:21 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I'm usually too broke to go to either, and I'd rather make it myself. But hands down Teds bison ribeye blew RC's ribeye out of the water

SexyMrSkeltal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:49:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A good steak doesn't need sauce, but that don't mean it doesn't taste even better with it.

etaNAK87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:33:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So why eat the steak?

idwthis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:13:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So why eat the steak?

Gosh, seriously? Because steak prepared the way a person enjoys it is fucking delicious. And it's a good food to provide one with sustenance, since that's a daily requirement in order to, you know, love and stuff. And since you gotta eat, might as well get some enjoyment out of it.

etaNAK87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:38:13 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I see you dont take things lightly. Enjoy your sauce!

Nightguard119 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Steak is delicious!

etaNAK87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:22 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

TRUUUUUUE

shmurgleburgle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A bomb ass burger with cheddar and pepper jack cheese then put some A1 on it. Heaven

Almostatimelord ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:14:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you Australian?

puppet_up ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:12:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm American and I personally think that using any type of sauce on a good steak is blasphemy. I've only had to use sauce for extreme circumstances (usually when visiting my folks who turn everything into charcoal) and I prefer A-1 as that's what we always had in the house when I was growing up.

Almostatimelord ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:26:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ah okay, I'm American too and as you said, sauce on a good steak is blasphemy. However, in Australia the sauce is the pride of the restaurant and asking for a steak without sauce gets you dirty looks.

puppet_up ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:55:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's very interesting. Is it considered rude to ask for your go-to sauce (like A-1) or do the restaurant chefs usually make their own that you're supposed to use?

Almostatimelord ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:26:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The place I went, it was the chef that made the sauce/had the sauce and that was what you were supposed to use. I actually don't know if they have A1 sauce there, I never saw it.

Gameipedia ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:32:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

stop letting her cook if you can, or give her proof she is ruining food, this is honestly pissing me off just to hear about

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:45:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You poor creature.

MyIQis76 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:40:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh dear...

notLOL ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:50:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

At that point of steak cookness do yourself a favor just use it as a leather strop to sharpen your straight razor before cutting your own throat out.

Butthole__Pleasures ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:37:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Who's ready for a solid 16 oz piece of Porterhouse jerky, huh?"

RonPolyp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:42:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But the only utensils you need are a hammer and chisel.

Fennbros ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:48:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can confirm. I had one of OP's mom's steaks and I'm still chewing. I'm going on a week and my jaw is getting sore.

SadGhoster87 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:29:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That was the perfect response.

LuxAgaetes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:45:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is why I didn't think I liked steak for the first 20-odd years of life! Nope, just fuckin' hated well done steak. But give me some of that sweet med-rare any day...

Ae3qe27u ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:14:20 on September 2, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

At a Texan who's been raised on steak...

I'm so, so sorry.

hug

Denelorn ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:23:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Even more painful to shit!

MyIQis76 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Even more painful to flush.

LesseFrost ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:35:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Break your fuckin teeth on that shit.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:35:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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youcancallmealsdkf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ayy lmao

Springheeljac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You poor unfortunate soul.

Cturner4545 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Chef here. Absolutely impossible to digest.

mightybonk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Takes 30m to chew

Kendo16 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:42:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Never ate a tire,Richboy?

Nightguard119 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:51:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Painstaking

FTFY

Its_bigC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nice slab of concrete

Timo823 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Poor soul

hippieholli ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lmao! Spit my pop out reading that one!

Synli ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:15:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Served with ketchup and a mallet to break it apart

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:33:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm choking.

AnticPosition ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:53:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Does anyone else's jaw hurt from reading that?

lonehawk2k4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you still chewing?

iTz_Chanch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:20:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Indian I'm assuming? Or at least somewhere from South Asia or the Middle East

g-c-a ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:47:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Even more painful to digest

ollie87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:01:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

On the upside, crying on it saves on buying salt.

0252 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:23:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not as much as it is to pass...

Poplik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:02:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And to shit out

Optimisticchris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:19:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

On high heat I put my steaks on 90 seconds each side and my parents think i'm crazy.

meadstriss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:44:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Borderline child abuse mate. /s

PickThymes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:42:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also painful to shit out.

II7_HUNTER_II7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:44:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

even more painful to digest

sega20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:57:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

RIP OPs teeth.

Reddit-Incarnate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:14:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mouth dried up reading that.

ButterFlamingo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:16:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh god.

ButterflyAttack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:19:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother the same. She also boils all vegetables for 30 minutes, whatever they are, and they all end up tasting the same.

RedPill0829 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:23:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh god the smell

Exallium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:00:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I would just throw it out. 4min on one side, 3 min on thee other... That's it.

PM_ME_HKT_PUFFIES ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:05:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Always a bad sign when the waiter says to you "here's a sharp knife for your steak"

Real_Adam_Sandler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:49:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It is even more painful for the cow ๐Ÿฎ

Bn_scarpia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:17:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's a shame that cow had to die in vain.

ShooterDiarrhea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:19:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My jaws hurt just from reading that

Kwazyness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:30:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Let her know burnt food is dangerous as well, I believe the chared in large quantities can lead to cancer or something idk for sure though or if it's a myth but yeah

Agent1108 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom and sisters love it when it's grey, I call it a hockey puck and refuse to eat it unless I make it medium rare

wtfapkin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:53:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do you have any teeth left?!

BattleHall ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 06:09:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"What if someone wants theirs well done?"
"We ask them politely yet firmly to leave."

fistfulloframen ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:44:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

30 minutes to murder a steak.

Eugenian ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:23:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It was already murdered once. No point in murdering it a second time.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It could have died from loneliness

neosithlord ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:39:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I just learned an insane way to cook a good marbled steak. Most likely here on reddit or youtube wish I knew who to credit. Anyways bake the steak on a rack in the oven at 250 degrees F for 45 minutes (varied from 30 minutes to an hour but 45 is my sweet spot). Then grill or pan sear it on a piping hot pan or grill one minute each side for rare two minutes for med rare/ rare. This is some game changing shit for my red meat addiction! I feel I was always good at grilling a steak before this but really when I drop money on an expensive cut this is the only way I want to do it now. <edit> sorry had to add I just love steak and had to add this out of anger. My mom also kills food in the kitchen.

ApprenticeAmI ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:44:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A friend invited me to a cookout a few years ago. He taught me that it was possible to have tasty grilled meat outside of a restaurant. Home normally ended up with carbon pucks of jerky when grilling was attempted.

[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:32:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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Nega_Sc0tt ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:12:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He's probably factoring in preperation. Getting the coals ready takes a while.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:20:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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Magwell ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:32:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well to be fair, the best way to cook steak IMO is to get the grill to a nice red hot temp, then sear the steak on both sides for 4-7 minutes depending on the thickness, and end up with a medium rare to medium steak with very tasty grill marks on both sides.

Nega_Sc0tt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:55:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's what I'm saying.

Rakudjo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're supposed to eat the steak, not the coals.

theycallmekenny ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:12:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Gordon Ramsey haaates over cooked steaks https://youtu.be/lCc8IEvh70w

ThunderCuuuunt ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:33:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Two words: sous vide

bugphotoguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:17:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, so about two hours to cook a steak. Best steak you'll ever eat, though.

MetalHead_Literally ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:43:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cooler sous vide ftw

dezeiram ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:30:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Seriously, christ. 5 minutes is overcooked in my house.

beepbeepitsajeep ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:30:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Depends on the temperature you're cooking at. And the thickness of your steak. Get a real caveman piece 1.5-2 inches thick cut at the butcher shop and cook it low and slow, you can run into a 30 minute cook time easy. You fucking heathens who just throw it on high each side for a few minutes and call that cooking need to learn. The grill lets you adjust the temperature for a reason, Jesus Christ, I truly love and appreciate a rare steak, but we're not racing to get the steak hot, try it slow.

Magwell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:36:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I disagree. Doing it the way you describe you're unable to get delicious char-grilled marks that are expected of a grilled steak. If you want slow cooked you either roast it in an oven or smoke it.

microseconds ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:19:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

It's called the reverse sear. You get the best of both worlds. You get the dark, delicious crust, while keeping the largest pink area possible, minimizing the grey ring of well done that's just under the crust before the properly done insides.

Indirect heat at about 200F until you're at about 120-125F. Now, go at it over the direct heat, cranked up to 11. You'll come off the heat right at medium rare.

It's worth it. Give it a shot. Only catch is that this only really makes sense to do on thicker steaks. Minimum 1.25" thick before trying this move.

beepbeepitsajeep ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:03:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You sear both sides, keeps in some of the juices, and then you turn the heat down. You don't just sear both sides for a longer time on highest heat and then call that cooking. A la my brother in law. On an expensive (read: thick) steak, that gives you a well done layer, a cool and completely raw layer, and a well done layer.

cbftw ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:15:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You sear both sides, keeps in some of the juices

That's a cooking myth, btw, Doesn't work like that

http://www.thekitchn.com/does-searing-meat-really-seal-in-the-juices-food-science-218211

beepbeepitsajeep ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:15:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Interesting, TIL. Everything else I said holds true, though.

Sexiestzebra ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:54:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I read it as 30 meters and am very confused. I refuse to believe they meant 30 minutes. Why would someone do that to a poor helpless steak

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:55:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's some fucking dry steak...

MadeSomewhereElse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:59:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

this kills the steak

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

At that point its just charcoal.

Analyidiot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
AnticitizenPrime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:27:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Optimal steak cooking time over a decent flame or cast iron: two-three minutes a side.

I am going to give dude's mom the benefit of the doubt and assume she was basically slow cooking it over low heat. That's actually not too terrible if the heat is sufficiently low. Ask anyone into immersion cooking.

The reason I choose to assume this is because the alternative is burnt beef cinders, and that is too terrible to consider.

Gorilla1969 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This should be illegal.

modi13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:12:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom used to microwave our steaks if they were pink in the middle. I never understood why people loved steak so much, since it was so dry and leathery.

Vitus13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not to be "that guy", but now that I've switched to the bake-sear-sear method I can't go back.

The only downside is that it takes 20-25 min to bake, 10 min to rest, and 2 min to sear.

TheGourmet9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:38:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Had a chef that used to say "the cow already sacrificed it's life for you. Why make it suffer again?" Once had a guy get a steak well done and then ask for ketchup. I've never seen anyone look so disappointed. It looked like it physically hurt him

DrAgonit3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:58:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My rule pf thumb on steak is 1 minute per 1 cm of steak thickness per side. Results are usually excellent.

Schnitzngigglez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:00:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

More like stake. After 30 min you could probably hammer it in the ground!

Fear_ltself ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:05:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i cri evry tim

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:09:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't even understand how what's left after 30 minutes is even edible.

john_dune ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:33:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep. On a pre-heated bbq, a half inch steak takes 8-10 minutes to cook (8 for medium rare, 10 for medium well) any more than that is blasphemy

timeforaroast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:59:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So painful feels like being present in a trump rally

aapowers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:00:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It'd be less of an effort if she stood a bit closer...

PM_ME_YOUR_MUSIC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:35:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

30 metres to grill a steak

nybo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:06:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm vegetarian and even I felt painful reading that.

ConciselyVerbose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:16:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sure it was a typo and he means 30 seconds.

circuital14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:54:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But maybe the steak is 10" thick

RPSisBoring ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:02:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

nono... at that point, its a stake...

Jahonay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:14:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Literally twitched directly after reading that.

gallowstorm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:37:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I call it mom steak

foxfirewisp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:48:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well prepare to have your mind blown. Cooking my steaks this way beats any steakhouse I've been to.

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=P87GZZUvRmA

AccountWasFound ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:23:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I actually thought that was how long it took one time, so it was in the oven at 350. I checked the temp after 30 min and it was at like 40, so I put it back in, checking every 10 min. After 2 hours my parents get home (they'd bought a cheap steak and since they were going out for a special event with my brother told me I could eat it if I cooked it) and asked how the steak was. My mom freaked ran over to the oven took the steak out and pointed out that it was well done. I showed her the thermometer and that was how we found out the meat thermometer was busted.... The steak was not edible...

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:38:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What if you're cooking up a porterhouse?

IndieHamster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:45:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The final insult to the cow...
If I was going to be bred to be eaten, I would at least want to be eaten deliciously... Or have the person eating me choke and die. Either or.

mlkelty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:13:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Steak shouldn't require ketchup to be edible.

allkindsofjake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:20:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Even worse in the paranoid parent taking the non-paranoid parent's cooking and microwaving it. From chicken to steak to porkshops, and trying to snatch yours away to do the same.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

True, it's more like 30sec. Wipe it's ass cut off the horns and warm it and that's almost overdone.

UnculturedLout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandmother would do this with fast-fry steak. Have you ever seen steak shatter?

drdeadringer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Now tell us how long it should take to grill a steak.

NEVERGETMARRIED ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It wasn't until I was 25 that I learned it was ok to eat less than well done steaks. I've slowly moved down to steaks cooked medium. I still don't know if I can trust a medium rare steak...

GroundsKeeper2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:23:05 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And yet, most days Applebee's takes 45 minutes to cook a damn burger and fries.

Doctah_Whoopass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:54 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe it was a roast?

tubabust ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Always takes me about 30m to cook a thick steak. I cook it on pretty low heat and it comes out medium rare.

walmartsucksmassived ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shit, 15 Minutes is still too long; you can have a medium steak done in about 6 if you set up correctly.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:47:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ouch.. steaks should be cooked in single digit numbers of minutes.

NoneApplicable ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I literally winced

ManPumpkin ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 04:20:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For real.

50s at most.

[deleted] ยท 3949 points ยท Posted at 03:24:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

At that point why spend money on steak when you can just eat the charcoal instead.

Garibond ยท 142 points ยท Posted at 04:50:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Because the steak would provide some great jaw exercise

Eurynom0s ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 06:16:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah but in all seriousness I've tried to eat burnt meat (I was in grad school, I was drunk, I left the chicken in the oven too long)...I was sick as a dog afterward. Stomach cramps galore.

Anshin ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:18:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

jaw exercise

-Nevermind too easy

spiritbx ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:57:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So do rubber band and you can get those for cheaper.

kevindlv ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:49:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

On the plus side, your family probably has an excellent jawline. Lots of working out.

Yolo420SwagM8 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 05:13:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

May as well just go outside and chew on your car's tires.

you_got_fragged ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:48:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait, you're not supposed to do that?

Deadmeat553 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 05:14:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can't eat propane, and she better be using propane.

Kendo16 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:05:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Taste the meat not the heat!

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:55:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lump charcoal master race!

Kendo16 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:56 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hwat you say?

ecto_gammat ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:00:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Waiter: How would you like your steak done?

Abhikavi's mom: Hold the flavor.

SirRogers ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:38:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm afraid the charcoal wouldn't be done all the way through.

Pie_Hoodlum ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:17:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just eat your shoe, same taste and consistency of well done steak.

SenorLopez ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:17:23 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Steak has to be so rare that a good vet should be able to bring it back to life.

TheForgottenOne_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:21:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But steak doesn't need to be cooked very well... you just have to cook the outside and the rest is preference. She can't possibly mean steak.

Nighthunter007 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 08:54:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The thing about irrational fears, is that they're irrational. They don't make sense.

great_things_001 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is it real charcoal though??

Anonymo ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:11:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Leftover steak

TheTrackPadUser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:55:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's probably softer

the charcoal that is

TheStormlands ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:25:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just eat the steak raw. saves you the effort of cooking it

detroit_dickdawes ยท 1166 points ยท Posted at 04:02:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm pretty sure what's left after 30(?!?!?!?) minutes isn't "safe" to eat.

abhikavi ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 04:03:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not safe for your teeth, at any rate.

Poonchow ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 06:38:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's basically carbon at that point! Shit will give you cancer. You've denatured all the fucking protein out of the fucking meat!

RaginCajun_ ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 05:11:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This kills the steak.

PM_me_yer_kittens ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:07:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Whatever survives at 400+ degrees for 30 minutes is probably not good for you

Flyingwheelbarrow ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:37:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The charcoal steak if eaten then vomited will give you a good cleanse if poisoned by the rest of an awful meal.

VoteLobster ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:48:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Carbon. I mean, we're made of carbon.

wootzies ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 05:06:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This. Charred meat is extremely carcinogenic and yet next to no Americans know it despite us being so heavily invested into the BBQ scene.

Utaneus ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 07:57:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Charred meat is extremely carcinogenic

That's a huge exaggeration.

da5id2701 ยท 75 points ยท Posted at 05:41:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wouldn't exactly say "extremely". And going outside on a sunny day is also carcinogenic. Life is about taking risks.

panda_gravy ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 08:52:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

10/10 people that have gone outside have died.

KernelTaint ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 09:06:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also, 10/10 people who never ventured outside have also died.

ExcaliburBoltor ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:21:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck. What now?

Antice ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 09:48:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Standing in the doorway?

Resizes_Gerbils ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:53:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do what pleases you and die like everybody else.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:45:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

10/10 people that have died have gone outside.

I've been outside and am alive.

Pizza_Delivery_Dog ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:56:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

for now

Wickywire ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:07:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think your statistics are off. I was out just yesterday and I feel fi

Quatzecoatl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:22:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not true! Only about 97%, IIRC

1337bruin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Life is about taking risks.

eating overcooked steak isn't a very worthwhile risk though

da5id2701 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:09 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No argument there. You can still have a nice rare steak with some char on the outside though.

BitBeggar ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:49:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Carbon is delicious though

LonePaladin ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:20:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Takes you back to your roots!

Applefucker ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:57:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not like we live forever anyways. I'd rather die with BBQ than live without it.

Miniappolis ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:25:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No it would be illegal to eat in California.

Poonchow ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:39:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You could eat it, but it would come with a warning label.

rustyfretboard ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:24:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And the market you buy it from will have a "caution! This store may containprodicts known to the state of California to cause cancer" by the door.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Man...California is FULL of cancer. Between that, the horrible traffic, the outrageous real estate prices, and all the assholes...why do people live there?!?!

Uknow_nothing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:41:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Perfect weather(depending on where, sometimes it's a bit hot). Diverse, fresh and delicious food, and 800-something miles of beaches.

rad_baron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:26:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

depends on the steak, really. i agree that 30 minutes may be pushing it but something like a chuck steak will need a minimum 15-20 minutes grill time.

vibrant_crab ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:59:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well done meat is bad for you.

nixielover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:23:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She probably uses low temperature for 30 minutes instead of searing hot for 3 minutes per side

monkeymad2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:44:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DucksDoFly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:57:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just cook it with some water and it'll be good as gold.

Whoisrobbiemac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:00:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's true! Full of carcinogens. All of the cancer

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:09:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Carbon is perfectly safe to eat. Palatable on the other hand? Not so much.

CptnAlex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:51:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, the char on meat is actually a carcinogen....

originalread ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:35:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yum, vitamin cancer.

themcp ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 05:15:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's probably safe, any germs have been killed, but whether it has any remaining nutritional value is in question.

[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:30:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same, my mom always overcook chicken, never used a thermometer. Then my girlfriend cooked me chicken and I thought she was an incredible chicken chef. I also bought my mom a thermometer, first time she used it, she put it in the chicken in the oven and left it there...it was made of plastic...

littlecat84 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:16:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

At least she grilled it! My mom bakes steak until it's this shriveled up lump of chewiness.

pedr2o ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:34:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Poor animals who had to die for this

Nicekicksbro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Gah!

Pacotown ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:52:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This makes me want to cry.

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:40:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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abhikavi ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:46:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Buy a Thermapen (or, if the price is too high, another instant-read thermometer). Post the guide on which temps meat should be at on your fridge (comes with the Thermapen). Check everything as you cook it, especially the thicker parts of the meat. You're guaranteed not to undercook anything.

BrownFedora ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You could try some exposure therapy: do you like fried eggs? Cheap, fast, and delicious when cooked correctly. Learn how to cook a nice runny, over easy fried egg. The key is most people get the pan too hot. If the egg sizzles when it hits the pan, it's already too hot. Med-Low and slow.

saroop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can try slow cooking. It will cook meat fully without making food taste awful

Ristake ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 04:10:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What an even harder challenge? Try and convince her that chicken sous vide @ 135 F for 90 minutes is safe to eat.

The chicken won't have the right colour most people are used to.

It is possible to change her preconceptions though it does take awhile. I've been criticizing my mother's cooking (essentially only meats) for a decade now and she's just coming around. I bought her a thermapen last Chrismtas and she still raves it's the best present I've gotten her. Her chicken game has improved immensely.

abhikavi ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 04:14:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Try and convince her that chicken sous vide @ 135 F for 90 minutes is safe to eat.

"It's a new-fangled crock pot, mom." Done :) As long as it takes forever, she's satisfied.

The thermapen is the instant-read thermometer I gave her. It's so damn fast. Drives me nuts that she won't use it, it's very little extra effort compared to the enormous improvement it makes in the final meal.

Ristake ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:26:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"It's a new-fangled crock pot, mom."

Haha, that could work.

I love the thermapen. It's the best kitchen gadget I bought last year.

abhikavi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:28:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought it was a ridiculous amount of money until I owned one. I use it more frequently than any other pot/pan/accessory/appliance in my kitchen. Absolutely worth it.

Ristake ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:00:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought the same. I looked at their website multiple times before finally grabbing one when they went on sale.

"Do I really need a laboratory grade thermometer for cooking?" Apparently I did.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:20:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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Ristake ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:01:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's perfectly fine however I can't eat it myself, the texture throws me off right away. I have no issues cooking chicken (sous vide) to 150 F and then searing to form a crust.

http://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/wcm/connect/9ab2e062-7ac8-49b7-aea1-f070048a113a/RTE_Poultry_Tables.pdf?MOD=AJPERES

We can also see in the link below nothing harmful will be growing at 135 F.

http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Food/GuidanceRegulation/UCM252447.pdf

Crocoduck_The_Great ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:20:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Okay, so I have a question about this. I cook a lot, but have never cooked sous vide. But the TT table in the first link is a little confusing to me. It says that after 44.2 seconds of holding at an internal temperature of 155 you will have the required lethality of salmonella. However, I have never seen a cooking method that get the internal temperature from 155 to 162 (the threshold for "instant" lethality) in under 44.2 seconds. This would, to me, imply that it is wholly and completely unnecessary to cook your chicken to 165. In fact, by the time your chicken has reached 157 or 158 you will have met the 44.2 second holding time for 155.

I mean, even at a very high fat content for chicken, the 155 holding time is only 55 seconds. Given this, why does the 165 temperature recommendation remain?

I personally almost never cook my chicken to 165. I will usually pull it out of the oven somewhere between an internal temperature of 150 and 155 because I like juicy, flavor chicken, not shoe leather.

Ristake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The recommendation just guarantees safe chicken for less savvy cooks. It also gives a buffer in case the thermometer/oven temperature is out of calibration. They may reduce it one day like they recently (2011) did for pork.

But yes, you are correct. The harmful bacteria would be dead before you even reach 165 F.

Crocoduck_The_Great ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:37:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was so happy when the reclassified pork. I'd been cooking it to 145-150 for years because I enjoy juicy food. The more people that can experience pork that isn't overcooked the better.

EDIT: Also, that first link made very interesting reading to me as I was supervising my breakfast cooks at work at 330 in the morning, so thanks for that.

IRideVelociraptors ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nothing harmful will grow at 135F, but that doesn't mean that harmful things will die at 135F, which is a big difference. There is a reason that there are different temperatures for different meats that they need to be cooked to. Different bacteria can go into 'hibernation' when it gets too hot and only die at higher temperatures than 135F.

ChillyCheese ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I like the middle ground of targeting to take my chicken off heat when a thermometer into its thickest section reads 150F, then covering the chicken and resting for several minutes. Only 3 minutes at 150F should achieve the same level of pasteurization as 165F instantaneously, and taking it out at 150F will result in it rising to 155, anyway.

Still tender chicken, but not with the different/odd texture that comes with low-temperature sous vide cooking.

BitBeggar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not a cook or pathologist or into food safety or anything but, I thought most guidelines recommend cooking meats (especially poultry) to at least 165 to kill all bacteria??

Ristake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:14:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

The reason they recommend 165 F is due it being fool proof. If the meat reaches that temperature you've definitely killed everything even if the oven or thermometer are out of calibration.

At 135 F all harmful bacteria will die if that temperature is maintained long enough.

At 165 F there is no time requirement. The bacteria were all dead before you reached that temperature point. The key thing with sous vide is you're slowly bring up the meat to the same temperature and holding it there.

On a grill you're cooking with higher heat. If you have too much heat you'll over cook the outside and undercook the inside. This is why it's important to probe the thickest spots and hit the middle.

There are some links in another comment that show the time and temperature relationship to kill 99.99999% of bacteria.

From my other comment:

It's perfectly fine however I can't eat it myself, the texture throws me off right away. I have no issues cooking chicken (sous vide) to 150 F and then searing to form a crust. http://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/wcm/connect/9ab2e062-7ac8-49b7-aea1-f070048a113a/RTE_Poultry_Tables.pdf?MOD=AJPERES

We can also see in the link below nothing harmful will be growing at 135 F.

http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Food/GuidanceRegulation/UCM252447.pdf

Crocoduck_The_Great ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:23:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It is about time vs temperature. 165 will kill all pathogens instantly. You can kill all pathogens at lower temperatures, but the temperature has to be maintained for a longer period of time. The lower the temperature, the longer it needs to be maintained in order to achieve pasteurization. So at 136 for example, you have to maintain that temperature for between 63 and 88 minutes, depending on the fat content of the chicken, where as you can cook chicken to 165 in well under that time and have it be safe instantly.

Eurynom0s ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:20:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The chicken won't have the right colour most people are used to.

Like this? Going by "traditional" cooking temperature colors it looks a little raw but just a touch--I routinely eat bits of chicken that look that way (chicken where most of it is "fully cooked" but it's so thick that a little bit of the interior looks like that).

I mean I don't necessarily WANT to eat that but if I'm home from work and not willing to wait another fifteen minutes for dinner then whatever, not a big deal. Then again I'm the sort of person who really loves a rare piece of steak, if I throw a piece of meat back on the cast iron pan it's because it's literally physically cold in the middle.

Ristake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:23:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

At 135 F it'll be even more translucent, but yes.

If I'm paying attention my chicken will always look like that picture. A well seasoned seared crust and juicy center makes for an incredible piece of chicken.

I'm always upset at myself when I'm exhausted from work and overcook my chicken due to lack of attention/caring haha. I'll quick sear (cast iron) my chicken breast for ~30 - 45 seconds and bake it in the cast iron pan until the thickest part reads 155 F. I'll pull it from the oven and let it rest for a minute or so before slicing.

Eurynom0s ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:29:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The picture we're both talking about that I randomly Googled definitely looks great. Like I said, a bit pinker than I'd default to cooking chicken too but as someone who thinks rarer is better when it comes to red meat it wouldn't take a ton of convincing to get me excited that you know what you're doing and that temperature represents cooked.

Ristake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:32:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, that's the thing with sous vide. You have such a finer control of temperature you can drop your target temperature much lower than other methods and still be confident the food is safe to eat.

asshair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why did you get such an expensive thermometer? Is it better than the $20 versions?

Ristake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:05:55 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's much much faster.

Lazerspewpew ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 04:28:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ironically, over grilled food contains a ludicrous amount of carcinogens. Which are absolutely unsafe

goatsin ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:51:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Which are absolutely unsafe

I thought you meant the good kind of carcinogens.

LIFE_SMITH ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:35:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is why burnt toast causes cancer. When you burn any organic compound it creates benzene rings as a by product. Same stuff is in cigarettes.

jacobc436 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:04:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

According to what?

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:14:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There have been dozens of studies on the subject; you could've tried googling. First result for 'overcooked meat carcinogens'.

jacobc436 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:42:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh. Thank you :) sorry.

sullman_ ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:58:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am currently irrationally angry at your mother...

Canedude08 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:30:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I remember when I started working in restaurants and learned about the greatness that is rare steaks. Like you, I grew up in a "It has to be well done" home. I remember one of my managers rewarding me for working a double(A ton of people called out, and I stepped up), by giving me a free filet mignon. When he asked how I wanted it cooked, I said well done, for that was the only way I thought steak could be cooked. He made me a deal, he would make it medium rare, and if I hated it, he'd cook it up to well. Let's just say that he didn't have to upcook it, and eventually, I drifted down to rare. I've tried to explain to my mother that a well handled rare steak is no less safe than a well done one, but she refuses to believe me.

zuuzuu ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:38:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

e.g. 30m to grill a steak

My dad's trick to barbecuing the perfect steak was one glass of wine. When he finished the glass, it was dinner time. I don't enjoy wine, and have never been able to barbecue a decent steak.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:35:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

(30 minutes to cook a stake)

Jeez, I cook mine for 5 minutes.

Nicekicksbro ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:26:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How thin are your steaks! We barbecue ours for 45 minutes at the minimum... but our version of steak is usually an entire goat rib or thigh.

Imperium_Dragon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:17:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Damn, over cooked food is usually the worst. Feel sorry for you, bro.

Qscfr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:35:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I never had unburnt chicken unless it was chinese. Im talking well well done.

Doctor_Huh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:38:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This sounds like my Haitian mother...

Hi_Im_Saxby ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:41:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I cringed reading 30m to grill a steak. My condolences for your palette growing up.

tinykeyboard ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:43:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

oh god. my mom does this too. she is so paranoid about getting sick from "undercooked" meat. she always asks me to do the bbqing but then proceeds to reduce her perfect medium rare portion to an inedible dry mess.

JungleTrevor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:41:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

On top of that just being wrong, it's super bad and can produce a bunch of carcinogens.

cogman10 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:41:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you've never tried it, try a reverse sear. It takes a while but the steaks that come from it are amazingly good.

NoBarkAllBite ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:44:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents are the same, except I think they just prefer overcooked meat. I used to not understand what the terms "rare" and "well-done" meant until my late teens. And they always poke fun at me for being "blood thirsty" whenever I eat any meat that's not well-done.

Hitlers_Oven ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:54:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is your Mom my Mom?

OldHippie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:59:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother couldn't cook either. No exaggeration, the woman couldn't even boil water properly (she would use medium heat to "save energy")! And then there were the pan-fried hamburgers...

rabbit395 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:15:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am also paranoid like your mom. I had food poisoning before and it was the sickest I've ever been. Getting a thermometer is a good idea...

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:20:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have a MIL who doesn't cook chicken all the way thru. I'd rather have overcooked than undercooked anyday

CQReborn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:26:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"How was dinner?"

"The leather was delicious, I'm taking the other half back to make a home made cover for the book I'm writing."

baltakatei ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:27:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad liked to squeeze steaks and hamburgers to make the grill fire big.

I realize now that he was squeezing out all the tasty fats and flavor.

Mr2-1782Man ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:35:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've noticed a lot of this depends on where your parents grew up. My mom charcoals the crap out of everything, she requests it burnt. I know a few other relatives that are the same. All of them lived in Europe during the Mad Cow scare and apparently had it drilled in that meat is unsafe unless it's black.

Deepcrater ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:35:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom is the same way. Went to a bbq with my boyfriend's family, the steak was medium well and now I understand the love of steak.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:38:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It wasn't until recently that I learned scrambled eggs are NOT supposed to be brown. My sister will still make her eggs at maximmum stove heat though.

Rihannas_nipples ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:38:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your mom Irish? Because my mom is the same and she boils chicken and all her beef has to be a hockey puck or else "it's still mooing"

HB_propmaster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:55:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same, plus veggies steamed for 45 mins, they have the taste and consistency of boiled water, unlearned that thanks to my sister having home econ classes, damn I wish my school had that.

Also cooking large amounts of sausages, then freezing them once cooked to 'save time' but you'd end up spending just as long defrosting and re-heating in the microwave, unlearned that once I could tell time.

We also grew up without an oven in the house, because the oven wasn't environmentally friendly... Microwave was fine though, unlearned that one once worked out the maths of energy consumption of appliances.

I could go on, but damn, think this is bringing up some food based PTSD....

MANBEARPIGofPersia ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:55:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit my dad is the same way and it's infuriating

tonyray ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:58:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Did she learn to cook in the NAVY, because that's how you cook in the NAVY.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:59:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom would do the exact same thing! She even did it with hard boiled eggs. The yolks would always be that weird yellow grey colour they get when they're overcooked. When my boyfriend made some for me anf they were perfectly cooked and the yolk was the perfect shade of yellow I was in awe.

saltesc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:04:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Omg, the day I found out veggies aren't meant to not be flavourless mush...

Edit: And having a medium steak after a life of well done. Holy balls, well done shouldn't be legal.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:13:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom is paranoid and overcooks the hell out of everything

Holy shit. We share a mother. I didn't have juicy chicken until I moved out and learn to cook.

onlytoask ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:14:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why does she even bother eating meat if she's going to ruin it and make it taste horrible? Wouldn't it be both easier and more pleasant to just eat other stuff?

secretasian23 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:18:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do you live in the south? This mindset runs rampant here.

DiabloConQueso ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:18:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yikes! If it's done while it's still on the grill, it's going to be completely overdone on the plate. That's a tough mental hurdle to leap, I know, and everyone has to learn it the hard way.

PointMade_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:00:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you my brother?

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:02:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, my mum cooks chicken until it's chalky and burgers until they're hockey pucks. She also refused to use any knife larger than a steak knife and microwaves her coffee every 30 seconds to keep it scalding hot.

CaptainReginaldLong ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:15:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

oh...god...maybe if she didn't overcook everything she wouldn't hate the time it takes so much...i...I can't even

InitiallyAnAsshole ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:22:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom is like that too. It's infuriating.

Drew_5 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:23:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

LOL on the steak! Instead of juicy, it was dusty.

Roastmonkeybrains ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:23:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same. Paranoid chicken cooking moms are the worst.

TheDFR ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:24:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My Mom was the same until she moved and got a better oven and a meat thermometer. Every meal I have there I tell her how great it is, and then praise the oven thermometer twice as much.

Medium rare roast beef is worth the disapproving eyes.

TurtleSayuri ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:25:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Seriously! That's my mom too. She first ate steak around those who ate it really rare. She would always overcook everything every time. The steak would be almost burned unless we cooked it ourselves. Even other proteins, she always questions whether it is done or not. Like a little underdone won't kill me(okay, maybe.)

BountyHNZ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:31:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm convinced this is the largest contributor to vegetarianism. We converted a vegetarian at a party/BBQ once when she enquired about the steak we were cooking. We eventually realised that she had never had good meat cooked well beefore (soz pun tax).

beeeeea ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:47:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

On the other hand, my SO didn't know you're supposed to cook chicken the whole way through and it shouldn't still be raw inside. He has somehow never been sick because of this habit and continues to do it to my disgust.

quinky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:49:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She needs a slowcooker. put everything in cook it for 8-12 hours and it's still nice and tender!

laman012 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:52:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She was just low key trying to make you inti a vegan.

venterol ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:28:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same with my mom. Incredibly dry and hard. It wasn't until a friend showed me how to grill that I learned what a "juicy" burger was.

Anivair ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:07:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother in law cooked a Thanksgiving turkey till it was overdone and then put it in the microwave "just to be sure". Just to be sure of what? She acts like the meat is full of viruses we have to kill. It's just meat.

Butter_on_donuts ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:25:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here. I had such shitty meat growing up I went vegetarian because I disliked it so much living without it was no problem, until I developed anemia. Started cooking my own shitty meat using the shitty techniques I had inherited. Had my first properly cooked steak some years after that. It was religious. I was reborn. Called my mom on it and she said "We didn't want to you to get sick."

NotThatEasily ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:31:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think your mom is my mother-in-law. Her version of making a roast beef:

1) Place today on baking sheet

2) Pour a small amount of water over it

3) Place in oven on 475

4) Wait until it shrinks to half of its original size

5) Serve with dry potatoes

TheSmokey1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:47:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm pretty sure it turns to leather after 29 minutes.

dstar89 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:56:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is my entire family's philosophy, especially when cooking eggs. Eggs are so delicate and awesome and they usually ruin them by cooking them too long and on too high of a heat.

Sunny side up shouldn't look like the dang thing grilled over a volcano and is missing a yolk.

rustyxj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:24:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom doesn't use much seasoning, and over cooks everything.

Taco night, she uses half a packet of seasoning.

Steak night, I hope you like leather.

rnawmomof3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:39:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom is the opposite...leaves chicken on the counter to defrost all day type thing...I'm always amazed I never ended up with salmonella poisoning at some point growing up...

AriaNightshade ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:42:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am with you on this. This is why God made thermometers.

PsystrikeSmash ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:47:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents aren't actually paranoid, they just don't know how to cook steak, seeing that if usually looks like someone cut off a piece of a tire and put it on my plate, it's just as hard to chew, and it doesn't taste even half decent, they do the same thing with pork chops, Consequently, I've never had good steak, or good pork chop.

waawftutki ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:03:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I realized that meat doesn't have to taste like cardboard.

Same here. Grew up like this. Pork, beef, moose, it all taste the same when it's overcooked. It's rough and a pain in the ass to eat.

On the upside though, it's easier for me to be a vegetarian now because I don't have much fond memories of meat!

ChromeLynx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:04:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Look, if it takes so long because a lasagna takes half an hour to finish, sure. But if it takes half an hour to grill a steak, you're not making steak, you're making shoe soles.

humble-narrator ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:12:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom is the same. Going out to eat is painful sometimes because she, for some reason, always chooses steak and it is never cooked well done enough. Always has to send it back, even if there is only the barest bit of pink.

I'm only now starting to get over that learned mindset myself when I cook.

blunt-e ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:34:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I invited my future fiancรฉ over for dinner the first time, I had this whole big meal planned. Got some beautiful dry aged porterhouses that I had going in the sous vide seared with a red wine pan sauce, twice baked potatoes and garlic butter asparagus, laying down my A game basically right? She's like "oh I'm sorry I don't like steak". Had a bit of a panic there because my ex was a vegetarian and I wasn't playing that game again. Turns out she had never had a steak cooked right in her life. Her grandma that raised her had always cooked them well done by which I mean hockey puck so she just thought steak was supposed to be bone dry shoe leather. When I pulled my meat out...hehehe phrasing...when she tried these steaks it was like she realized she had been lied to her whole life. I'm not a fan of super rare meat, Med rare is the perfect temp IMO but well done? Eh, barbaric.

catsmustdie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:43:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I learned too late that you can cook onions before eating them.

Also, steak don't need to be carbonized shoe sole like.

awlyssa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:46:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I thought I hated all meat until my mid 20s (didn't bother trying it after living at home and eating my moms food). Nope! Just hate over cooked under seasoned meat!

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:44:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom did the same thing :c Overcooked eggs, chicken, steak, everything really. I grew up disliking all of the above, but learned to love them in their proper form. Tragic really

LIFE_SMITH ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:32:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm a professional cook at the end of my shift and that steak bit made me physical cringe. The entire BOH hates these kinds of customers.

JakeSteele ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or you could demand some long cook stew, where it's in an over overnight. even if the meat is read, anyone knows that no germ can survive so much heat for so long (I hope I don't come off incredibly stupid with this statement)

ThanatosSkepsi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You should buy her medication, not a thermometer

Algebrax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family is this way as well, they will cut all meat in thin slices and overcook them Intel they're dry like a rising because they don't like the "bad taste" of uncooked meat. That's why I didn't really much like poultry or beef growing up, and much of my diet is based on bread and diary, so hey a reason to be fat. Lately I've started eating more meat, better cooked and prepared and learning that I don't need a ton of carbs to fill me up after the tiny dried up serving of meat I always ate.

hikiri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same. I cooked my mom some delicious, perfectly cooked, juicy chicken.

First thing she does is cut it open in the middle, sees that it's juicy, and says, "Sorry, this isn't cooked enough." and cooks it until the smoke from the burnt chicken blacks out the whole house.

skywreckdemon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:52:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ironically, burnt meat is incredibly carcinogenic.

roastbeeftacohat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

30m to grill a steak

crime against beef. I leave my steaks out to dry for about 8 hours, this leads to constant fights when I'm cooking at my parents house; which is absurd, because the result is always awesome. and then they ask me to do it again and a fight breaks out.

BrutalWarPig ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

30 mins to grill a steak? Beginning to wonder if your mom is Hitler incarnated.

forcebubble ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No such problems at my house as mom was an excellent cook.

The only problems we had were the inability to stop growing horizontally. :\

masonryf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh no! Fresh steak from a reputable butcher can practically be eaten raw(blue rare) or put into a tartare. You could try explaining how food borne illness actually works and why you cook foods to these temperatures. Chicken is cooked to 165 f throughout because the meat is porous and the bacteria is able to be in the center, beef is very solid and thus only the outer of layer needs to be cooked.

Manleather ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You could try explaining to her that overdone/burnt meat has strong links to cancer promotion; she'd fair better against a tapeworm.

WiredCortex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit my dad bascially does this with beef, either steaks, burgers or hot dogs. I have had to take over from him doing any thing other then his chicken Kebab Skewers. Which are a recipe I will be sure to take from him when I own my own house.

Kamone1202 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

you mean 3 minutes right? RIGHT?

sugamonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom did the same thing with pork chops. I HATED pork chops until I was 28 years old and my then boyfriend made me try a bite of his at dinner. Fucking eye opener! I love pork chops. "Oh! You mean the meat isn't supposed to be hard as a rock?! "

themcp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother hated my father so much that she would deliberately carefully overcook any meal at which he was to be present (although she would prepare lovely food otherwise.)

I remember one time she burned the spaghetti. Mind you, it started out in boiling water, she just left it there until it emitted smoke, then scraped it out of the pot and served it.

Another time she served "italian sausages". I started scraping the carbon off the outside with my knife as I conversed with my father about how his day had been. At some point I looked down and realized I had scraped more than halfway through, she had fully carbonized the sausages. (I have absolutely no idea how she did that. I don't think I could do that if I tried.) I looked and she had an evil grin on her face. My father and I silently stood up, walked out of the house, got in the car, and had dinner at KFC, a 45 minute drive away. (Back then, KFC was actually called "kentucky fried chicken", and served actual fried chicken, rather than balls of grease.)

ExRegeOberonis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:13:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

An instant-read digital meat thermometer is something a lot of people from older generations scoff at. Like, my mom and dad "know" how to cook a chicken, and to be fair, yeah, it's pretty decent chicken. Don't need a thermometer to tell you when the chicken's done, just cut into it and look!

But if you've never cooked for yourself and are just learning or want to try experimenting with new recipes, a meat thermometer is invaluable and I could not recommend one enough. Mostly to avoid poisoning yourself.

phpdevster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:13:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

(e.g. 30m to grill a steak).

I just felt some of my tastebuds die.

lhepton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandma would boil pre cooked hotdogs before she felt safe grilling them. All of her food sucked

Severe_Punishment ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"30 m to grill a steak"

Great, now I'm weeping for all of those cuts of meat that sacrificed for nothing.

fish_slap_republic ยท 1062 points ยท Posted at 01:22:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had the same deal with with steak and pork chops but the Internet has saved me.

Maenad_Dryad ยท 1060 points ยท Posted at 02:39:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My college boyfriend had to show me how to pick out and cook a steak. My mom always cooked cheap cuts with no fat in them until they were well done. Just awful

5-4-3-2-1-bang ยท 1519 points ยท Posted at 03:38:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That wasn't steak, that was the world's fastest beef jerky.

randomyaho0 ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 04:32:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, jerky is good.

[deleted] ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 04:47:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't you disgrace beef jerky like that.

gsfgf ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 04:30:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wish it was that easy to make jerky

Almostatimelord ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:17:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jerky has flavor. That had carcinogens

LonePaladin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:21:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just count down from five and bang!

tytYoungLion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:04:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

*shoe leather

Obelisp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:28:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And the world's worst jerky too. Jerky isn't cooked, it's dehydrated and cured.

the_421_Rob ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:02:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom used to tell us if it was pink you would get sick from eating it, I hated steak until I was in my mid 20's and learned how to cook it right!

fuckface94 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:33:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I like mine medium or medium rare, my wife on the other hand well Ive taught the kid to moo everytime his mom orders steak.

sephraes ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:16:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So your wife orders correctly.

TeutorixAleria ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:04:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Really depends on the cut of meat. I wouldn't eat cheap cuts blue or even rare it's like chewing an eraser. That said I wouldn't over cook them either as that's even worse.

Mastershroom ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:42:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Agreed. I think rare/blue is best for leaner cuts like filet mignon. But that won't always cook the fat properly in a more marbled steak like a ribeye, so I'll go medium rare, sometimes medium for those.

TeutorixAleria ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:50:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My personal favourite is a well marbled striploin medium, great flavour without any seasoning even.

catanthill ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:08:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My roommate made us steak using chuck. It was the toughest steak I had due to the cartilage.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:30:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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chocolateboomslang ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:25:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some people just don't know about the difference between meat cuts, or how they should be cooked. And some people prefer overcooked hard meat. /shudder

AcaciaWildwood ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:08:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought I hated liver because my Mom would cook it until it was a piece of gray tasteless chalky disgusting leather. It wasn't until years later I learned that she just liked to force feed that shit to us because she enjoyed seeing us suffer and a properly cooked piece of liver with onions can be divine.

anvilcrawlers ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:03:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My wife picks out steak like that, no fat and tough. I try to teach about the types and fat content, but no success...yet.

Mastershroom ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:49:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family likes to grill hamburgers, but they always buy 97% lean ground beef and then they wonder why they come off the grill with the texture of bread.

I'm not even sure where they get beef that lean; the grocery store I go to only has 80%, 90% and 92% lean.

anvilcrawlers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:21:33 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

75%-85% lean for burgers. The 97% is only sold at a few stores around me. I have used that, but I was mixing it with ground pork, so there was plenty of fat in there already. As a stand alone meat, 97% is worthless to me. Too many think animal fat is bad, but your body needs some (not a lot). Especially if you drink fat free milk, use margarine, and eat mostly chicken breast as your staple protein. But then again I'm not a nutritionist, so don't take me seriously.

CeruleanTresses ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:59:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The one silver lining here is that at least she wasn't ruining good steaks.

Farghobbles ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:06:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I too remember discovering ribeye for the first time after years of eating eye of round and shoulder steaks

CocoBrolo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:25:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm so sorry

rhaizee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:31:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My asian family's same way, they don't like meat that's still red. Always dry and tough. Theyre okay with a bit of pink now but for most part too dry.

ILickWieners ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:51:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know that feel. I seriously don't get people who like it well done. They just don't know that it's worse. Seriously! People are like "don't be pretentious, people like different things than you, blah blah blah." but, it's objectively worse in every way!

DrAgonit3 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:01:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some people are put off if the fluids leak when cutting the steak. I don't understand why, it just makes it more delicious in my eyes. Luckily the people I know who are like that at least have the decency to like medium well steaks.

Aerroon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:05:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What about people that don't like steak at all?

DrAgonit3 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:23:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I question their sanity.

Aerroon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:34:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think I don't like steak, but I am also unsure whether I've ever had steak. Then again I seem to not enjoy meat dishes add much as many other people.

DrAgonit3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:14:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Get a steak in a fancy restaurant at some point. From that you can deduce if it's not your thing or if you just haven't had a good steak.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Things I "hated" because my parents suck at cooking:

London Broil FTW

Arialene ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:28:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Had a similar experience. Picking out was considerably easier than cooking, because my father likes to cook them until they are WELL well done. I still get a little uneasy at Medium, even though that's what I prefer!

KungFuPuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:54:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Robin, are you on reddit now?

912827161 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:13:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

mine always choose steaks/pork chops with as little fat as possible and then cut out what remained before cooking to well done. For the longest time I thought that was just how they were and didn't understand why people would order it in restaurants

PM_TITS_AND_ASS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:19:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How do you pick out steak?

rahtin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:58:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's why so many people overdo it with steak sauces. Keep that fucking gross ketchup off my meat please.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:17:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

All my boyfriends taught me how to cook as well :)

TheStormlands ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:27:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I used to live in texas. At a restaurant I was told that if i asked for a well done steak that i could not send it back. I also heard of a few places that would ask you to leave if you ordered a well done steak.

WaffleFoxes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:42:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I still need to figure out how to prepare steak.

I hated steak as a kid (always well done) and never really ended up giving it a chance until I got in a relationship and could try my boyfriend's steak without having to buy my own.

It's excellent.

But, it never seems right when I try. I'm sure it'a because of the 15 years of experience I have cooking pork, chicken, fish, shrimp, etc- I have maybe 10 tries cooking steak. I probably just need to do it more....

octeddie91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One thing I've learned is you can never go cheap on steaks, unless it's in a stew or something similar.

ManBearPig1865 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:07:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My roommates still can't grasp picking out a steak. I always get a thick cut, bone-in ribeye for me while they'll pick up a sirloin that's about 3/4" thick but about the size of a plate. Seems like because they see more meat that makes it better, then they brag about how they paid two bucks less.

Every time they'll try a bite of mine and wonder why it's so fucking good and say that they want me to cook theirs next time while I try to explain that there's no way to cook the pieces of meat they always buy and have it be like the ribeye.

Uknow_nothing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:14:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm cheap so I don't like paying for a bone(since it's charged by weight). A good ribeye is a delicacy though. However, I can make a mean sirloin too.

One of my old roommates used to get London broils and they were a bit tough, but at the same time I learned that if you let it soak in a steak marinade overnight it's still a good steak.

It still beats chicken is what we used to say.

ManBearPig1865 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:47:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can definitely make a good sirloin, but it's a piece of meat that really needs to be marinated because it doesn't have the fat content of a ribeye or other similar cuts. I don't always shoot for the bone in, but if I'm having the butcher cut it for me then I may as well.

The way I've cooked mine lately has been Gordon Ramsey's method in a skillet(I recommend it if you've not tried it) as I don't have a nice grill available where I live and while it works perfectly for my thick cuts, you can't cook the thinner sirloins long enough to get the good flavor in the crust without cooking the thing the whole way through

Uknow_nothing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I usually would cook mine in a cast iron skillet since we didn't have a backyard or BBQ at my last apartment. I'm reading his method now, seems about the same as I do.

I've never found that to be an issue with sirloins and don't usually marinade those. If you cook it right and slice it thin it's plenty tender for my liking.

London broil is the only one I've found that I really need to marinade.

pm_me_mean_things ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well done master race

covmatty1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:35:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes! I knew pork as being an almost grey coloured chop that had half an hour in the oven, so I "didn't like it anymore" for about 3 years.

Then I got some medallion cuts that I marinaded with paprika and chilli and fried like a steak and I pretty much had an epiphany!

ziptieyourshit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So, they're not supposed to be gray colored slabs by the time you eat them?

0OKM9IJN8UHB7 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:17:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A while back the USDA dropped the recommended temperature for pork cuts from 160 to 145*F.

EvangelineTheodora ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:32:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The USDA has a nice booth at my local fair every year where they talk about food safety. Last year I got a fridge magnet with the "done" temperatures for all the meats and eggs, and another one with how long different produce will keep and where to store them. 100% recommend stopping by a USDA booth at an event if you get the chance.

CoolguyThePirate ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:56:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I really enjoy a thin pork steak breaded and pan fried until it is jerky.

2059FF ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:05:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Liver and onions represent!

KornymthaFR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:02:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yum

turboladle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Got a pork chop recipe? I can't seem to make them not dry.

chewymenstrualblood ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:37:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No specific recipe, just buy an instant read thermometer and cook until it's 145. Often it'll still be pink. It'll be way juicier than if you cook it well done.

SonatiAkb48 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I remember the first time i had a good steak it was life changing. Had no idea you could eat a steak without ketchup to cover how dry it was until that day.

Keilz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:27:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

EXACTLY this! It's ruined me, I never order meat dishes at restaurants because it just sounds unappealing

PaigeTheGreat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:29:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cooking a steak ruins it. It's a magical skill to mitigate the amount of ruin.

mindputtee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:28:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought I hated pork and pork chops for the longest time because I'd only ever had it dry. My SO makes these bomb country-style pork ribs now that are amazingly juicy.

noscope360gokuswag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:58:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It takes everything in me not to scream at someone when trying to explain pork doesn't need to be 100% well done all the time, that it is in fact safe to eat at medium in 2016 New York. People don't know how to internet and just believe everything.

Gertiel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:08 on August 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad will always grab a steak out of the freezer and throw it straight on the grill. He's the master of well done on the outside yet not even warmed in the middle. I thought that was medium rare for years. It wasn't until got my first grill and chose to check the internet for how to cook a steak that I learned differently.

drome265 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:54:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shouldn't you cook pork fully, otherwise you could get sick? Or is that something my AZN parents taught that is complete bullshit?

MangoPDK ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:02:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Long story short cooking fully doesn't mean it's a dried out, tough, tasteless brick. You can fully cook pork and still have it be juicy, tender, and flavorful. Lots of stuff online about this.

drome265 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:10:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not what I was saying, I was asking if undercooking pork had health risks. Thanks for the insight!

filemeaway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:58:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Slightly undercooked (vaguely pink) pork is not dangerous. There were warnings about it from the US Gov't before, but they've recently reversed that recommendation (in the last 10 years I think).

Also remember that all meat continues to cook after it's removed from heat.

rob_s_458 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:29:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Back in the day, trichinosis was a risk if pork was undercooked. Now, it's a very minimal risk, so much so that in 2011, the USDA reduced the recommended temp for pork from 160 to 145 degrees F, with some chefs cooking it even less than that

eigenvectorseven ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:59:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hated steak growing up because we always had it so dry and tough you had to chew it forever.

JetA_Jedi ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:12:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same, I grew up eating steak that could only be swallowed with a swig of milk. Now I cook steak once a week and it's amazing.

madsci ยท 196 points ยท Posted at 04:25:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cooking chicken...

Turkey, for me. I felt like a traitor to my family when I had Thanksgiving dinner with friends and the turkey was better than I can ever remember my mom making, and she prides herself on her cooking. She was outdone by a guy 1/3 her age who was probably drunk for most of the cooking.

I felt even more guilty taking my kids (both teenagers) there next time. We still do family Thanksgiving, but the three of us feel a little guilty about having more fun with 20-30 people crammed into a tiny apartment, most of them drinking and playing Cards Against Humanity and eating off of paper plates, than we do at a nice quiet table following all of the traditions we've followed forever.

chokingonlego ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 07:17:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Volunteer to help cook the turkey, and say she deserves a break after doing it for all those years. She'll still be busy with all the other things in the meal, and you get a better tasting turkey.

dugmartsch ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 11:41:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You left out the part where you take a blackjack to the nape of her neck before she has a chance to taste your turkey and figure out your ruse.

You might as well go in for a pound and murder her if you're going to take away a mother's thanksgiving turkey dinner.

Crazycatlover ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 08:50:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother broke the cycle of badly cooked turkey in her family. Grandmother always complained about Mom's method of cooking all day long, and then praised the resulting meat to high heaven. Cognitive dissonance, eh?

karmagirl314 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:15:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I would love a CAH thanksgiving.

gravityapple ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:14:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This. Christmas turkey went on at 8 am for a 5 pm dinner, at 400 F. The meat on the leg was curled around the knurl it was so dry.

nyralotep123 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:50:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

omg, that is food abuse. In an electric roaster in a bag mine averages about 3 hours at 375.

Antistis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:46:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That sounds like a lot of fun....

nyralotep123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:48:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your kids will remember them as good times if you're all having fun! Traditions can be upgraded.

datmamathere ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:14:52 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh man, it hurts when your mom prides herself on her cooking, and it's terrible! I just don't have the heart.... But when you do have good food it's so damn hard to eat that awful stuff all the time. I dread the holidays... For that reason. I cook for my kids at home and just make them a small plate at their grandmas house, then we eat at home. Thank god I had home ec! I also bought cheap cookbooks at the thrift store and learned from just reading them and practicing. Food tv is great, too.

festerf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

is turkey not supposed to be as dry as the sahara??

Golden_Spider666 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've had turkey many ways. No matter how moist and juicy it is it always tastes dry to me. Just don't like turkey all that much

wittyusername902 ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 07:56:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

... you have your teenage kids drink and play cards against humanity with 20-30 of your (adult) friends?

Am I misunderstanding something here, because even if teenage means >17 (instead of, say, 14!), being at that kind of party with my parent's friends would've been hella awkward at that age...

madsci ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 14:32:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

you have your teenage kids drink and play cards against humanity

The kids don't drink and it's not a rager but most of the adults are a little tipsy. The kids would have been 16 and 19 at the last one, and the friends range from early 20s to late 40s and a couple have teenage or older kids of their own.

Cards Against Humanity is still bawdy and obscene, but my kids are more comfortable with that than I was at that age. I do remember telling my son that he wasn't supposed to get the 'lemon-stealing whores' references.

Really my bigger concern is that my son's going to fall in with the younger crowd on his own and will get invited to the same parties. There are already one or two second-generation members of the group.

wittyusername902 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:56:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

the friends range from early 20s to late 40s and a couple have teenage or older kids of their own

Ok, that does make a lot less weird I think! I was more picturing two young teens and a whole lot of (more or less drunk) people in their 40s and 50s.
As a teen, whenever I had to join dinners/parties of my parents, it was just me and something up to a dozen at least somewhat drunk middle-aged people, so I kind of just extrapolated from that.

Aggressivecleaning ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:21:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That seems normal for teenagers to me, but then again I grew up with a bunch of ex-hippies.

whatanicekitty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:34:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, seems pretty normal to me too, but my mom was a hippie and my dad was a biker...

wittyusername902 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:47:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That really doesn't seem normal for me, I guess it depends on the upbringing. My parents were late 30s/ early 40s when they had me, so when I was a teen my parents and their friends were in their 50s. You know how some older men can have that "creepy uncle" vibe towards girls/young women? Yeah... I disliked even being at dinners with a number of their friends, especially if they got a bit drunk. I would have just died of uncomfortableness at that kind of party.

nixielover ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:34:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It got even better when we made my 60+ aunt and uncle play cards against humanity with us... we did agree that the dealer had to explain things like bukkake to them though

nyralotep123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:53:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think it's a mistake to keep kids to themselves during parties like this. Mom and dad can will seem less mysterious and more human in my experience.

tealparadise ยท 2363 points ยท Posted at 03:49:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Things I "hated" because my parents suck at cooking:

  1. potato salad (lazily/barely-chopped undercooked potatoes in mayo)
  2. all pig meat, meaning dry pork chops and sugary ham
  3. baked chicken (same as your comment- dry)
  4. beans (always sweet baked beans from a can)
  5. bbq - turns out I just hate sugar on meat in general, the vinegar-based sauces are fine.

And I'm sure there are more.

Edit: no, Europe, we don't just sprinkle sugar on meat. It's a sweet sauce exactly like Swedish meatballs or sausage with ketchup.

Edit 2: Lingonberry jam. Untwist your panties.

slyscribe401 ยท 997 points ยท Posted at 04:47:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't like any vegetables until I was an adult because they were always too rich. Turns out that's the cube of butter and block of cheese added to each veggie dish.

BKachur ยท 319 points ยท Posted at 05:39:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't understand how I got to my 20 before I realized (by myself) that simply adding salt, pepper, garlic, a bit of olive oil and roasting for 20@400 makes the best tasting veggies. I generally have good healthy cooks in my family, but they just dropped the ball when it came to making veggies taste good.

citrus_slinger ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 06:48:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

See my parents had the opposite problem with veggies. No seasoning, no olive oil, no nothing.

C'mon Son! these brussels sprouts steamed just by themselves are great!

I then learned the way from my first live in girlfriend of the glory of having 7 simple ingredients on hand to make just about any kind of dressing or seasoning imaginable. Garlic, salt, pepper, cayenne, olive oil, apple cider vinegar, and stone ground mustard.

Salad dressing sucked before I learned you just make it yourself to taste.

[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 08:55:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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zer0t3ch ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 10:07:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Any wonder I hated tomatoes as a kid

I still don't know why I dislike tomatoes the way I do. Almost any meal with any "fresh tomato" added to it I don't really like too much. (My dad grew tomatoes and liked to add to recipes) That said, I fucking LOVE tomato bread. (buttered bread with slices of tomato, and salt+pepper, served "open-face")

Coincidentally, I recently discovered that replacing the pepper with "blackening seasoning" makes it more delicious with a kick of spicy. I love it.

postslongcomments ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 11:03:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do fresh tomatoes make you gag? I don't know why, but they make me gag. I'm not even a picky eater and I love my fruits/veggies - I've had some pretty fucked up shit like Braunschweiger (a sweet liver sausage) and had no problem stomaching it. I love anything with tomatoes as an ingredient - including sun dried tomatoes.

I don't know if it's the texture or what. I've gotten chicken sandwiches with a tomato on it in the past on accident and have either taken a bite not realizing or was like "fuck maybe I'll like tomatoes this time." After gagging and spitting out a half-chewed sandwich NOPE.

The only other veggie I don't care for are peppers.

canadian_maplesyrup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:01:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't like raw / fresh tomatoes. It's a texture thing for me. The slimy insides and then the skin...I just can't do it. But like you, I like cooked tomatoes, and sundried tomatoes are amazing. But fresh nope can't do it.

I'm the same with blueberries. I dislike raw blueberries, but love blueberry flavoured things and blueberries as an ingredient.

zer0t3ch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not gag, and I don't hate them, just don't enjoy them.

thelittlepakeha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:22:21 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We had salad dressing with ours at least. Cooked vegetables had salt in them. But we didn't have a huge variety in our food so there's heaps out there that I haven't tried because my food budget is tiny and I can't afford to waste money on something I don't know how to cook and might not like when I'm not working. It makes me kind of sad.

MJWood ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:07:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

White wine vinegar is also very good.

funobtainium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:01:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And red wine vinegar. Greek salad dressing! And we put it in pizza sauce -- it's so zingy.

Basically, all the vinegars. They keep for a long time and there are a ton of recipes that use them.

MJWood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:10:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They're all very good. I like Greek salad dressing with white wine vinegar so that's why I mentioned it.

funobtainium ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:37:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's good, too.

Oooh, and balsamic. Balsamic + crumbled Gorgonzola, dried cranberries, and walnuts on a dark-leafed lettuce salad. Yes.

MJWood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:11:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is getting food porny.

saraoflaherty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This covered in sliced steak is my favorite salad!

KitsBeach ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are those 7 ingredients used as a universal salad dressing?

YES! Finally another use for my ACV. Its current and only use is as an acidic mix when I make my face mask: it has the correct pH so that when mixed 1:1 with my bentonite clay creates a neutral paste. If mixed with tap water, the paste is too basic and burns the skin. Science!

bgoldman86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:42:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What are some of your favorite dressings and seasonings made only with those ingredients?

citrus_slinger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:41:34 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Olive Oil, ACV, a pinch of salt, pepper, 1-2 cloves diced garlic and a dollup of mustard makes the best salad dressing ever.

Nightguard119 ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 05:58:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lightly seasoned veggies are the best

kevindlv ยท 90 points ยท Posted at 07:50:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not sure if there's a correct term, but I also prefer veggies that are 'al dente'. I hate the texture of really soft vegetables. I'd rather eat them raw than that.

lordcheeto ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 07:57:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is a correct term to use for it.

Decalance ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 07:59:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's the term for pasta though

lordcheeto ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 08:12:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It can be used for both. As well as rice, beans, etc.

Edit: It's Italian for "to the tooth".

Decalance ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 08:30:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know it's Italian, I'm Italian too. I never heard it used for anything other than pasta, but I guess the meaning evolved in English.

lordcheeto ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:26:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Possibly.

bschug ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:29:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So what would be the correct Italian expression?

Decalance ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:41:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Usually I say verdure fresche o crude

bschug ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:48:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks, now I can sound even more pretentious when I'm cooking. :)

Decalance ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:00:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haha, don't worry ;) onward to max elitism

The_Last_Leviathan ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 10:51:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh God, this. My dad likes all veggies to be mushy or even pureed. I hated some because of that and would always opt to eat veggies my grandma made, she would just stirfry them and add a little bit of butter and seasoning.

opalorchid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:22:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It means to the tooth, which means it's not too hard but still a little stiff. It is the term you are looking for but I'd only ever heard it used in reference to pasta

Nightguard119 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:11:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yea veggies aren't a very good melt in your mouth food

Doctah_Whoopass ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:15:39 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Raw veggies are my jam. I will munch away on broccoli, snap peas, beans and cauliflower all day, but once cooked they're just kinda meh.

thelittlepakeha ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:23:38 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

YES. For ages I thought I hated cooked carrots, only raw. I don't really, though I do prefer other veges, I just need to cook them less than my parents do.

Keykatriz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:09:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In general I think a lot of veggies are better raw or just lightly cooked. Spinach is about a million times better just raw, and I don't mind lightly cooked broccoli but I can definitely eat a lot more just raw.

SaturdayBaconThief ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:36:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Spinach is great raw, but I love just barely wilted, too. Throw it in with hot pasta tossed with brown butter and parmesan, or even just quickly braise with broth, and it is one hundred percent better than the boiled canned or frozen limp kind.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:24:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same! I love tons of vegetables, but there are very few I actively enjoy when cooked - green beans, for example, being one of the rare few.

mindputtee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:24:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My favorite is "blistered" veggies where you roast them over a good hot fire jsut long enough to make the skin on the outside char and blister but the inside is still nice and crisp. Works best on peppers and onions, but also great for cherry tomatoes.

Decalance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:00:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same. I hate soft chewy mewy vegs.

OuroborosSC2 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 06:34:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This 100%. Best part about it is that this method varies absolutely none from veggie to veggie. You just grab whatever is in your house, chop it up into a pan and cook it. It's amazing no matter what.

[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:51:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Curious. How did you have healthy cooks in the family if they made vegetables unhealthy?

[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 06:05:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 06:21:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

OK, my bad. I somehow included the whole

cube of butter and block of cheese added to each veggie dish.

into OP's comment.

BKachur ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:57:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Guy below me is correct. Mom doesn't use a ton of salt so they are underseasoned and mushy.

postslongcomments ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:07:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

mushy

Cooking veggies is a bitch and it took me a long time to realize. I figured out if you take them out a few minutes before they're done, they usually turn out perfect. Worst case scenario, you have to warm up the water again and cook 'em a little longer.

Maladresse ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:50:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This so much. I used to hate vegetables for that exact eason. Mine never uses salt or pepper, eating vegetables was a real pain.

And that explains why I was eating pretty much everything with ketchup back then.

notdannytrejo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:59:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yup, thought I hated vegetables (especially green beans), turns out unseasoned canned veggies are just gross.

BKachur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:06:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Canned veg is generally pretty gross except for a few exceptions, corn and peas generally hold up well I'm cans although at that point your better off with frozen veg

abstract_misuse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:54:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It might be a generational thing too - a few decades ago, that was more the norm.

notahipster- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:51:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So just a nit picky suggestion: you are actually printing that olive oil above it's smoke point if you're cooking it at 400, meaning that you are actually burning the olive oil. I would suggest using something like grapeseed for that, since it has a smoke point above 400 degrees. It's something a lot of people don't realize and it's usually pretty noticeable.

BKachur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The veggies are lightly coated in oil, and the veggies never get above the smoke point of the oil so it's not an issue. Grapeseed also doesn't taste as good.

areallynicebean ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:09:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What does 20@400 mean? English isnt my first language

caff_addict88 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:03:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

20 minutes at 400ยฐF

areallynicebean ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:41:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you!

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:13:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you a white American? If so, there was this great discussion on NPR the other day about why white American home cooking tends to be so awful, and it boils down (pun intended) to the Great Depression and WW2 rationing/lean times. Growing up, our veggies were mush out of a can that was boiled, because that's how my grandparents taught my parents to cook. I can see how many people can say they hate veggies when their culture has so much disdain for cooking them properly.

BKachur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Actually I'm an eastern European immigrant myself so my family had a long line of good cooks, but that said they did live through WWII then Soviet bullshit of limited food.

gelitele ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:39 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I listened to that this past week! Did you hear about how they used to use gelatin in a lot of food? I found that to be quite disgusting. All in all I am more thankful for the foods I have access to in my life.

_fairywren ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:24:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I also thought I didn't like vegetables (they were 'boring') because my parents served up the same four steamed veggies every night. When I started cooking for myself I realised that you can bake, grill, fry, steam, stew, pickle and boil in an infinite number of flavour combos and now I love almost every vegetable I can get my hands on. (I don't really mind though - it only enhanced the joy of discovery!)

Varyskit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:43:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've never been fond of veggies and have been trying to force myself to have a more healthy diet. Shall try out your suggestion. Many thanks, mate!

Edit: Also, could you please elaborate the roasting bit? You put it in the oven at what settings?

LadyEmry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:15:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For me, I find that the exact time can vary depending on the veggies you're using and how thickly you slice the chunks (onions and capsicum, for example, generally roasts a lot quicker than potatoes), but my rule of thumb is 200c for about 40 minutes, then check them. Give them a bit of a stir/turn over, take out anything that looks really crispy (usually the smaller end bits) and either snack on them or keep them warm under foil, then check them every 15 min or so after that until they seem done. If you have a lot (like 1kg of potatoes) it'd probably take over an hour, but if you're only cooking enough for one it's usually done in about 50mins. My favourite topping is olive oil with smoked paprika & cumin, but you can really do any kind of spices you like, or just plain oil and salt and pepper.

Varyskit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:34 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Definitely going to try this out. Thanks so much!

BKachur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:14:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly, it's my favorite method and unbelievably easy. The timing various especially upon the level of doneness you want in your veggie, for instance, when making sprouts I still like them to have a bit of bite to em, but sweet potato I like a lot softer. A good idea is to get uniform sizes of your veggies then toss them in olive oil, salt, pepper and garlic powder (also paprika goes good on everything but on sweet potatoes it's mandatory). The just toss that mix in an oven for 425 for 20mim and take it out and shake the veggies so one side isn't overdone. Then simply taste test every 5 min till you wind where you like it.

Varyskit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:54 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shall try this out. Many thanks!

Dear_Occupant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:43:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A tiny bit of basil on top of what you just listed goes a really long way.

BKachur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:18:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lots of herbs help, I'm just listing the mandatory ones. There is lots of fun stuff to play with, paprika, a pinch if cayenne, some all spice, oregano, dill, basil like you said. My background is eaten European so it's usually heavy on the dill.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:11:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had this realization as a teen but could not get my mother on board. It was harder to do for her than merely opening a can and dumping butter in. I rarely cook with canned veggies now. My mother tells people to this day that I "won't eat vegetables" because I could not force myself to eat canned green beans. Love them fresh and sautรฉed with a little over oil though...

BKachur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family lives veggies, just usually underseasoned which is really bad.

thaimove ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:16:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

what are other ways to make vegetables taste good? What if you just have a stoptop? I'm really struggling right now because I want to eat healthy but all my attempts at vegetables in the skillet turn out as watery flavorless garbage :(

BKachur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:25:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yea dude of course!

Blanch your veggies then Sautee them. Bring a pot of water to a boil, take some broccoli, Brussel sprouts, cauliflower etc... And boil them for 2 min then toss that in a bowel of ice water, they will not be a beautiful bright color. Then you take a pan, put down some oil, season your veg with salt, pepper, garlic power, maybe a nice all spice then just pan fry at high heat for a few min Turing constantly, then just take it out and enjoy. I would reccomend cutting sprouts in half.

thaimove ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:32 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow this sounds delicious and easy to do! What happens if I don't blanch? Lol and if I do, I'd prefer to use a bowl instead of a bowel :p

thelittlepakeha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:20:22 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I will say my father does a fairly decent roast lamb with potatoes. The chicken's too dry but the lamb is usually not too far beyond where it should be and he seasons and oils the potatoes really well.

thegirlinthetardis ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 06:06:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom was all about boiling veggies. I grew up disgusted by them because it was all mushy, buttery crap. To this day, I have trouble eating veggies that aren't raw.

mr_trick ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 06:34:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ugh, yes. I was always amazed when they made vegetables taste good in restaurants because at home they all tasted of mushy nothingness. I finally figured out that there were other ways to cook veggies besides steaming them into watery, limp ghosts of their former selves. Stir frying was a magical discovery.

On the plus side, I learned to love raw veggies which are arguably the most healthy, so there is that. But every time I visit my mom I insist on cooking!

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:51:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

On the plus side, I learned to love raw veggies which are arguably the most healthy,

Apparently that varies from vegetable to vegetable. Couldn't find the episode, but I think I heard about it on 99% Invisible or Radiolab. There was an interview with a woman that did research on exactly this. Tomatoes turned out you can't really get much healthier than from a can. And I think microwaving was good for many things, though perhaps even worse tasting than boiled soggy carrots.

mindputtee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:26:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Unless you're really going for the fresh brightness of a raw tomato and can get really good local ones (or grow your own), from a can tend to be much more flavorful. They can pick them much closer to ripeness and don't have to gas them into turning red. For any cooked applications from a can tends to be much better.

WebbieVanderquack ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:25:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To this day, I have trouble eating veggies that aren't raw.

Me too. My mom made dinner yesterday, and half an hour before the roast beef was due to be ready she said "welp, better start boiling the frozen peas." I said "you have half an hour left - frozen peas take 3 minutes." She said "we like them well done."

rahtin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:00:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can still boil them, just don't cook the shipping out of them. Boil the water, add frozen vegetables, let it reboil and cook for about a minute, then dump the water, keep them in the pot with the lid on to steam them. Still crisp. I usually had a little butter and salt when I'm ready to eat.

thegirlinthetardis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:07:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That was my main issue. Vegetables shouldn't be flavorless mush. There should be a crispness to them.

Fitzwoppit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:51:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom home canned all our fruit and veggies. Then everything had to boil for 15 minutes before eating on top of already being cooked.

thegirlinthetardis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:58:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ouch.

[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 07:38:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm figuring out vegetables as an adult now. My mom was really into "raw food" so when we had greens they were always tough and tasted bad. I'm now discovering the big world of tasty vegetables and you know.... Actually cooking them.

Ironically enough both my parents are obese despite them being vegetarians and trying weird alternative diets and I've never had a weight problem even when I was just eating Mac n cheese every day.

Haptoh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:52:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do they eat tons of sweets? I know a few vegetarians that eat tons of cakes and sweets because they crave fats.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:17:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm actually the opposite of this. My mam is mad for honey roasting veggies. I much prefer most of my veg raw!

TheForgottenOne_ ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 06:23:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I used to never like my mashed potatoes.. turns out my parents never added the milk that takes out the bitterness and makes it taste really good.

flyinthesoup ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 10:10:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What kind of potatoes are bitter? I thought milk was to rehydrate them after boiling.

TheForgottenOne_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:42:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I guess I describe the dry taste of mashed potatoes as bitter.

Good_ApoIIo ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 10:04:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Chopped green onions, garlic salt, and a smidge of butter and that's what I'm talking about.

thelittlepakeha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:24:52 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad and uncle put cheese in them. Parmesan or blue are both good (if you like blue).

twinnedcalcite ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 14:30:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Use cream for potato's. It's actually healthier then milk.

TheForgottenOne_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:37:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Where the hell did you hear that from? Don't believe everything you hear. I have a feeling who ever told you that was pulling your leg or being sarcastic.

Edit: Just something to help you figure it out: http://www.eatouteatwell.com/half-and-half-cream-ormilk/

twinnedcalcite ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:30:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A recent documentary called "The Truth about Calories" by the BBC. The segment is about 36 min in.

Enjoy

TheForgottenOne_ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:41:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Okay, I watched it. It says replace butter with cream, which makes sense. But most people don't use butter, they use margarine. And it is not a replacement for milk. To have good tasting potatoes (IMO) you need margarine and milk. You should always review your content before trying to use it to refute anything. Now you just look silly.

Also, no where does it mention milk, let alone that cream is healthier than milk.

Edit: Don't just downvote me because you are wrong and have nothing more to argue with.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:26:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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mindputtee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:27:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I will say this though- broccoli covered in cheese is amazing. Love me some cheesy broccoli.

slyscribe401 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:50:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Where do you live where that's a cube of butter? I'm talking half a cup of butter.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:23:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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slyscribe401 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:25:51 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cube and stick, same thing.

Ptolemaeus_II ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:27:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In what part of the south did you grow up?

slyscribe401 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Seattle.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:10:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nothing like corn you cook over an open fire. No salt, no butter.

Zoninus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:52:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Yo, I always hated my broccoli, because they were so rich, they hid their money on the Bahamas and evaded state tax"

[badumm-tss] [cue laugh track]

blockduuuuude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Southern lovin'.

giant_red_lizard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:26:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Only way I can enjoy veggies is with lots of butter, cheese is a huge bonus. I mean, I'll eat them regardless, I just won't enjoy the experience. Except for raw veggies, of course, raw veggies are delicious.

lightjedi5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:38:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel you. I don't even eat certain ones cooked. Brocolli most notably.

cowzroc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:56:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom never put anything on veggies and I always loved them.

Except Lima beans. Fuck that.

Scarletfapper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:04:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I got high cholesterol just reading that.

Seemoreglass82 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:11:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That... Actually sounds good

deviousD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:18:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I love steamed broccoli but always dislike broccoli as a kid because it was mushy.

BigGrizzDipper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:36:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You didn't have vegetables outside of what your parents served you for 18 years?

slyscribe401 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:55:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, not really. My house was the big hang out spot growing up and my extended family cooked the same way as her.

BigGrizzDipper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No restaurants? Never made it yourself, for 18 years (granted the first 13 you're relatively incapable)?

slyscribe401 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:04:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not really. I honestly thought I didn't like vegetables so I never ordered them or tried to make them myself.

slyscribe401 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:04:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not really. I honestly thought I didn't like vegetables so I never ordered them or tried to make them myself.

BigGrizzDipper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:01:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Glad to hear that's over

diffyqgirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:43:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was mortified as a child when I saw a friends mom fry a small amount of veggies in an entire stick of butter.

slyscribe401 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:52:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Were you at my house? Our go to was a can of spinach with a stick of butter.

thelittlepakeha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:18:52 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

...that kind of sounds amazing. Probably less than you mean though. Just a bit of butter and cheese would be good, I often lightly boil vegetable mix and stick a bit of butter on but I think the cheese would be nice to try next time.

Hraes ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 04:48:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like you just don't like sugar that much. Welcome to the club. There are dozens of us!

Seriously though it makes eating kinda difficult sometimes

wje100 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:02:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

At a fancy restraunt. Oh the pork likes nice, nevermind it has a molasses rub. Oh the chicken, nope its got a sweet sauce too. I always end up eating something generic like a slice of prime rib.

Shitmybad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:13:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just ask them to put the sauce on the side and don't eat it...

wje100 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 11:23:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm my experience if they make a meal with the sauce in mind, the meat is bland. So that doesn't really solve any issues.

toomanyattempts ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:28:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know whether I am in this club, because I like sweet foods (desserts, candy) but am not a fan of BBQ sauce or sweet chilli.

HarithBK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:04:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

sugar should be used like salt to enrich the flavor allready there not to force out sweetness.

fnord_happy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same

Hraes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:50:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And a fnordian! What are the chances

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

it's really not something you should complain about.

Lord knows, I've got a a bit of a belly and I barely eat any sugar. I shudder to think where I'd be if I had a sweet tooth.

the_eric ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 04:40:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

bbq - turns out I just hate sugar on meat in general, the vinegar-based sauces are fine.

We are opposites.

curlycatsockthing ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:48:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same!!!

[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 04:50:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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supermegaultrajeremy ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:19:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If there is a spectrum of BBQ then it goes from tangy vinegar at one end to super sweet brown sugar at the other. It's kinda:

VINEGARCarolina-----Memphis/KC/Texas----SUGARDeep South. Other flavors probably go above or below the line like Lexington Ketchup or Sakerlina Mustard.

This will end well.

hamburglarhelper91 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:54:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Texas BBQ is definitely on the sweeter side when it comes to the sauces.

Dongalor ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:59:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Texas is a big place with a lot of regional varieties.

Central Texas is mostly thin vinegar-based sauces without a lot of sweetness. Head west and it's more about the rub than the sauce (a lot of Mexican influence with barbacoa style stuff). East Texas is a lot of variations on sweet, sauces. North eastern Texas it's sweet and spicy, south eastern Texas and it's heavier on the molasses.

wigsternm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:46:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But always be careful because it can be offensive at nicer BBQ places to request sauce because the meat shouldn't need it.

hamburglarhelper91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:54:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I'm a DFW (north Texas) resident and most of what I've had was sweet. Some are a nice combination of both sweet and vinegar, which is definitely my favorite.

beepbeepitsajeep ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:33:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

North Carolina is vinegar, the western part of the state at least. South Carolina uses this mustard sauce bullshit. NC has two styles, Lexington being one of them.

AnalInferno ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:50:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mustard bullshit master race.

AnticitizenPrime ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:45:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Yeah. Tangy mustard is where it's at. Tomatoes need not apply.

Edit: though peppers are welcome.

AuRevoirBaron ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:54:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not going to downvote you because that's your opinion, but you should know your opinion on mustard sauce is wrong.

Knappsterbot ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:02:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

South Carolina uses this mustard sauce bullshit.

You sunnamabitch I'll kick yer ass

BoatyMcBoatfaceLives ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:41:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You have it backwards on NC bbq, the eastern part leading up to the foothills slightly past Raleigh/Chapel Hill are vinegar. Western likes to use some tomato abomination. Source: eastern nc country boy

beepbeepitsajeep ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:05:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm western NC, born in SC, grew up in the NC Appalachians, most people and restaurants growing up used vinegar, and it's my preference. Now I live in a small town between Asheville and Charlotte on US 74, definitely in the foothills, close to the mountains, and we have an almost even mix of vinegar and that tomato crap. Every now and then you'll have someone using some super sweet sugary abortion of a sauce and it's like "r u lost?"

supermegaultrajeremy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:48:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes all of this is correct. Except vinegar sauce is Eastern NC not western. Lexington/Ketchup is western NC.

beepbeepitsajeep ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:07:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I grew up in the western part of the state with mostly vinegar, I now live in the western part of the state and we have a fairly even mix of vinegar and tomato, with a sprinkling of Memphis and other styles mixed in here and there. We never did pick up on that mustard sauce bullshit though.

curlycatsockthing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:14:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It feels like a betrayal to NC to not prefer vinegar bbq, but sweet meats are my soft spot.

DarksteelPenguin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:59:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ok I'm not going for American bbq ._.

Knappsterbot ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:04:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're missing out

CLU_Three ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:46:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There isn't BBQ anywhere else soooo...

DarksteelPenguin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:20:44 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cooking meat or veggies on a grill on open fire ? That's one of the oldest ways of cooking food. I don't know any country in the world that doesn't have barbecue. And it's different everywhere.

CLU_Three ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:32:36 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're talking about barbecuing food. That's different than BBQ.

DarksteelPenguin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:48:05 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

TIL that BBQ doesn't mean barbecue.

CLU_Three ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:58:53 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not in Merica.

Barbecuing is something you do, BBQ is a kind of food.

the_eric ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:56:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same!!!

Danni293 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:42:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are those words even allowed together in a sentence?

CousinJeff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We are same

imnotarapperok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:51:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eastern NC BBQ is some good shit, that vinegar is legit

yahoo_serious_fest ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 04:51:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mushrooms, spinach, sweet potatoes, green beans, asparagus. All vegetables I grew up thinking I hated until I tried them fresh instead of out of a can.

getinmyx-wing ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:30:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mushrooms and spinach times about a million! I grew up hating all vegetables, and one day I was out to dinner with my boyfriend at the time and accidentally ate a mushroom, only to discover I LOVED it. Now mushrooms are one of my favorite foods and I'll eat them on just about anything. Same goes with spinach, but to a lesser extent.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:54:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Weirdly, I don't hate canned mushrooms. I'm starting to suspect that I am indeed Satan.

brycedriesenga ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:40:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I almost consider them different things. Local pizza place has options for canned or fresh mushrooms. Really depends on my mood to determine which I choose, ha.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:42:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You have put to words my long standing feelings about mushrooms.

Woofiny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You keep my father in business, thank you!

getinmyx-wing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is your father a mushroom farmer? Can he hook me up? Honestly I'm not sure if this is maybe supposed to be a drug dealer joke, but I'm taking my chances. My mushroom obsession is real and boundless.

Woofiny ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:44:39 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He works for a commercial mushroom facility where they produce tens of thousands of pounds a day.

ruffus4life ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 05:24:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

green beans are the only ones that really hold up canned.

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:11:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Every time I've had canned green beans they're always that sickly dark green color and taste like ball sweat. Fresh or even the steam in bag type green beans are among my favorite vegetables.

AnticitizenPrime ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:48:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Corn. Also survives the digestive system if you don't chew it. A can is nothing to corn.

HarithBK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:11:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

there is a video of a dude sallowing whole corn and filming himself pooping nothing but whole corn comes out

AnticitizenPrime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:23:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't know why anyone would watch that, but yeah, ya gotta chew corn.

Eugenian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:26:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Truth!

And peas.

imperabo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:40:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Especially peas.

HarithBK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:14:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

oh man nothing beats, potatoes, sweet potatoes and carrot in the oven for 20-25 minutes at 225c with just a light coat of oliv oil and ether a herb salt or spice mix.

bestjakeisbest ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:00:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

im sorry for your loss, i like to use honey as a glaze for ham its my favorite way to cook a haunch of ham.

Quatzecoatl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:23:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Honey-baked ham is literally the best part of Christmas

Gojjamojsan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:05:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What's sweet about Swedish matballs? Or are Swedish meatballs different in Sweden and the US?

Unless you mean the lingonsylt, but i don't think there are too many Lingons in America?

Margamus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:07:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You are probably used to another way of making meatballs than we do in Sweden. You never put sugar in meatballs over here.

It can sure be tasty, though, I imagine.

Edit: To make sure I'm not making things up, I Googled it and some basic recipes use a little bit if sugar. So I was wrong. In our family we never use sugar though.

JinxsLover ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:45:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fish of any kind I refuse to eat just so many bad experiences and besides a lot of it is expensive

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:55:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

It's hard to go right with fish. The only fish I've ever tasted that was good was caught and made on the same day.

Edit: So controversial. Store bought fish is just awesome.

Kalima ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:34:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

now wait a minute here. What's wrong with brown sugar in baked beans?

shredtilldeth ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:44:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sugar has no business being near meat of any kind! Fully agreed. Those crazy bastards with applesauce on porkchops?!? What the hell man? Great separately but they don't belong together.

Kingca ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 05:09:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Chicken and waffles, Korean BBQ, orange chicken, teriyaki salmon, etc. etc.

shredtilldeth ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:17:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, none of those are really for me. A SMALL degree of sweetness I can deal with, i.e. Teriyaki Salmon is great (it's also not red meat), but I just can't do BBQ sauce on ribs. I'd much rather have a sauce closer to a wing sauce on ribs.

Never done Chicken and Waffles. To be honest, those two things are separated. I'd probably be ok with that. They just don't belong as part of the same dish and forkfull of food IMO.

Kingca ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:22:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They don't really end up in the same forkful, but the fried chicken is supposed to get syrupy.

shredtilldeth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I see. I'd be avoiding getting the syrup on the chicken. If separated I know I'd enjoy the meal just fine. In fact, I get how they can be put together as a plate. Just not...together-together. You know?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:58:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hawaiian pizza must be the anti-Christ to you. It is to me as well, but I liked many of things on your forbidden list. Also, I'd still eat pineapple pizza even though I dislike it just because it's food and I'm not that picky.

Edit: I now see that you have already covered this important subject.

shredtilldeth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah Hawaiian pizza isn't inedible, I just really REALLY would rather something else. In fact, none of the items on my list are inedible (like Black licorice. Screw that crap. I'll never touch it again), but other things are MUCH preferred.

oss_spy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:52:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You should try candied bacon. Rub brown sugar on both sides, stick it in the oven, eat it. Delicious as fuck

shredtilldeth ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 05:10:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Frankly, that sounds godawful to me. I totally understand that other people are into that sort of thing, but I know I'd hate it. I don't like BBQ sauce, I can't STAND Sweet Baby Ray's (and similar style sauces). Hawaiian pizza is an abomination to both ham AND pineapple. Again, great separately (Pineapple is my favorite fruit), but not together.

I've cooked that kind of thing for people who do like it. I've made rib sauce with honey and brown sugar. But when I cook that kind of stuff for myself it's all vinegar and hot sauce and salt and pepper based stuff.

mastersword130 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:45:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Got it, you're a heathen.

Mojotun ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:38:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I bet he puts the toilet roll on backwards too.

Spidersinmypants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm in the middle. Sweet baby rays is a goddamn abomination, but I use that as a ingredient to make sauce. Add vinegar, add spice, add pepper etc. I like a little sugar in my BBQ, but the dominant flavor has to be vinegar and hot peppers.

Bottled sauce is overly sweet and terrible. But you can use it to make a good sauce. I think any decent sauce has a little sugar and a little tomato in it.

shredtilldeth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:03:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I totally get that. Sweet Baby Rays has tons of corn syrup too, which is part of what makes it shitty. Even if you DO like sweet sauces. Similar to you, I don't mind adding a TINY bit of sweetness (more or less to please those around me), but I can't stand the overly sweet stuff. Yegh!

OuroborosSC2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:38:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have become the biggest bacon hater in the past few years. I'm so sick of it being used for everything and anything. I can't eat bacon anymore unless it's in the morning with eggs or on a BLT. Leave it off my burgers, off my chicken, leave the sugar off of it, stop wrapping every god damn thing in bacon. I've actually started being disappointed when bacon is in things and I didn't know it would be. Biggest 180 opinion on a food since I realized I like brussel sprouts.

Zardif ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:41:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is disgusting.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:16:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Uh... There are so many delicious fruit/jam glazes for meats. Done right, by somebody who knows how to cook, it can be fucking amazing.

Edit: also, I make a mighty tasty Apple mustard bratwurst dish that helped me get over my texture-aversion to cooked apples.

shredtilldeth ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:20:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I totally get that other people like it. Apparently there is literally a gene that kind of decides whether or not you like sweet and meat together. I don't have it. It's just not for me. I'd rather have a salty vinegarey, pepperey flavor on my meats.

Apple Mustard Bratwurst sounds like my personal worst food nightmare to be honest. I'm sure it was fantastic but it's just not in my pallete I guess.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:56:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The only time I'll do apple sauce on a pork chop is at the inlaws house. I believe that apple sauce and pork chops became a thing because too many people cook them into sawdust.

ThisIsMyRental ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother almost never cooks pork so it's dry, and she fucking hates sweet sauces on meat to boot so I've never had applesauce on a pork chop.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:45:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Me either until my inlaws served apple sauce with chops. I didn't take any sauce until I tried the chop. It is a necessary evil in that house.

ThisIsMyRental ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:07:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, I'm sorry. :(

shredtilldeth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haha! Fair point. I do not overcook my meat so I don't have that issue.

Zardif ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 06:43:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pork chops are so boring. Pork in general is meh I end up using a1 or BBQ sauce on pork chops when I make them for the extended family.

Utaneus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:03:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pork in general is meh

Are you fucking kidding me? Pork is the best meat there is! The pig is the most versatile animal we eat!

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Breaded loin chops with tonkatsu sauce is frigging awesome.

Pound out the chops and use one beaten egg and panko bread crumbs for breading. Pan fry the breaded chops and serve over white rice. Pour the sauce over the chop and rice.

I like serving it with baked chayote squash.

For the tonkatsu:

1/3 cup ketchup

2 tablespoons Worcestershire sauce

1 tablespoon soy sauce

1 tablespoon mirin

1 tablespoon sugar

1 teaspoon Dijon mustard

1/4 teaspoon garlic powder (or one clove minced garlic)

1 thumb fresh ginger finely diced
Zardif ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

At that point out wouldn't matter of you had chicken or pork under it all they would taste the same. Since chicken is healthier I would choose it over pork.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've had it both and loin chops are better than chicken with this recipe but yeah chicken works good too.

ruffus4life ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:25:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that is a silly statement.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:12:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's just wrong. Sugar can go great on meat

shredtilldeth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Apparently there is LITERALLY a gene in humans that determines if you like sweet and meat together. I obviously don't have that one.

I totally get that other people dig it. It's just not for me. I much prefer salt and pepper on meat.

FallingOffALog ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:34:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, sugar on meat is an abomination in all its forms and instantly ruins the taste. Sugar is for dessert, not entrees.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:45:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Teriyaki, BBQ, Orange chicken, coffee ribs, char Siu,

And that's just off the top of my head

Icapica ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:58:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And sweet desserts are for children.

hamburglarhelper91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I will not eat a pork chop without apple sauce.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:28:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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shredtilldeth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:01:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Apple butter does sound substantially better. I really like that stuff.

Good_ApoIIo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:06:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Do you not know the wonder of Asian sweet chili sauce on pork chops? I'm no cranberries-on-my-turkey guy but there is room for sweet with meat! I just don't do regular sweet fruit on my meat, no pineapple pizza or that cranberry shit.

[Edit] Just read you don't even do BBQ sauce on any meat. Get out.

TIE_FIGHTER_HANDS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I fucking despise sugary meat. I want a savoury slightly salty flavour not a piece of candy.

getinmyx-wing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:26:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I dislike almost everything you just listed and I'm now wondering if it's because I've never had them cooked properly. I (perhaps luckily) never learned how to cook much aside from breakfast foods, so I'm completely oblivious to whether or not my parents have been fucking everything up all these years.

Siegwyn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Literally my life

ZTreyJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm with you on the sugar on meat. It's like... why, is this a dessert? I dunno, but I do much prefer the viegar stuff like you as well.

Cturner4545 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am a chef and I would love to get you past all of this.

_a_random_dude_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For #5, try chimichurri: just mix neutral oil, vinegar or lemon, parsley, minced garlic and chili flakes.

Trust me.

singularpotato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought I hated steak because my parents always make it like old leather. I had to take a leap of faith at a steakhouse - after a lot of convincing from my ex.

listen- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think I'm a vegetarian because my mom was so bad at cooking, meat was terrible

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a chef, I'm very saddened by this.

Nightguard119 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Come to kansas city, we will teach you barbecue, you will never leave

wje100 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hate sugary meats too. Also think that's why i don't like baked beans. My dinner isn't supposed to taste like candy god dammit.

Kendo16 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

turns out I just hate sugar on meat in general

Shame cause I add a bit of brown sugar to my porkchops and wish I could make them for many many people. But, I don't wanna go broke.

MadeSomewhereElse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Give sweetness on pork products another chance with cinnamon. Just a very, very light smattering is all it takes.

TheyUsedToCallMeJack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Who puts sugar on meat?

bobbygoshdontchaknow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

pork chops are the thing that stick out in my mind. As a kid, one of the meals that my mom would often make for the family would be pork chops, and I always hated them. Then when I tried my first tender pork chop I realized it was just her cooking that I didn't like.

Aaronf989 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:05:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Try Carolina mustard bbq. I hated bbq for my entire life. Until one day in culinary class someone made me some mustard sauce. I have like three different bottles of it now. It's awesome. I'm like you I hate regular bbq sauce.

HaV0C ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mustard based sauce for life.

TheForgottenOne_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can make chicken dry?! Was it on fire before they pulled it out?

misslilychan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:26:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i'm actually really glad that you have this luxury

Drezane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:28:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm just happy for you that you rediscovered these foods.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:34:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My brother. I had the same upbringing. Pushed me into cooking for myself today.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:37:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Mine was steak. My family liked steak "well done"โ€ฆ cooked til its dry and chewy. I used to gag trying to eat it. I thought I hated meat (still not a big carnivore).

When I was 10, my mum got a boyfriend who let me try his medium rare steak. What a revelation.

SanshaXII ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

sugar on meat

What the fuck?

AnticitizenPrime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:42:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is sugary 'honey' ham ever good? I have revisited it during holidays as an adult and currently think it's still shit. Dry and salty, and someone had the brilliant idea to add sugar to offset the dry saltiness. It doesn't work. Sprinkling sugar on shit won't make it palpable, so why would it work for dessicated salty pig flesh?

And before I'm labeled a big pork hater, I'm a fan of all barbeque, pork tenderloins, bacon, pork burgers, and the incredible things Cubans and other islanders have discovered in regards to pork preparation. Most days I'd honestly prefer pig to cow.

Just don't make a fucking honey ham out of that shit. The pig deserves better.

Draemor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:44:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Who puts sugar on meat?

LucianoGianni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:49:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought I hated pig meat too...always dry and overcooked and underseasoned. Plus my mom mentioned that pig meat was considered 'dirty', but we still ate it.

I've had decent pork since, but my mind still insists I hate it when I think about trying more.

fNU1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:01:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

All that sugar sounds like diabetes. Fucking America, man.. The stuff people there eat is just downright disgusting. And to think some Americans talk shit about British food..

Pretty much unless you live in the far East or the far West of the USA, everything else in the middle save for Chicago and Denver is a shit show.

hankhillforprez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Vinegar based sauces? You need to adopt the Texan BBQ style: nothing but a dry run of salt and pepper and maybe garlic and chili powder. If the meat is quality and the method of cooking is right, nothing more is necessary.

euphoneus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yup, just like mamma used to make!

osteomiss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:19:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Roast beef - so overdone. But then! Mom would put left overs in the fridge (so now it's cold and dry). Then the next day she'd grind it up, put it in a pan, cover with potatoes and then cheese and COOK IT AGAIN as shepherds pie.

PiffPaff89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:22:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is my first time coming into contact with the idea to put sugar on meat.

InitiallyAnAsshole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:24:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

PEOPLE LEARN HOW TO FUCKING COOK!! it's so infuriating to me that grow people don't know how to cook. It's literally keeping you alive! If you have kids. Start watching the food Network and learn off recipes. It becomes second nature so quickly.

RamblyJambly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:27:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I swear BBQ sauce at one point had some spice to it, some kick.
Now all I ever come across is sweet this, sweet that, sweet, sweet, god damned mother fucking brown sugar and/or molasses everywhere.

If I wanted sweet meat, is fucking go get something with teriyaki(which is damn tasty)

[deleted] ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 03:38:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought you could only boil vegetables to cook them so I thought I hated vegetables. When I started roasting and sautรฉing veggies as an adult, it was life changing. Vegetables are yummy!

ironoctopus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:01:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought you could only boil or microwave them. My parents cooked everything they could in the microwave in the 80's, with almost no seasoning. What's not to love about some cauliflower and carrots chopped thick and put in a ceramic bowl with a little water on the bottom and nuked on high for 3 minutes?

Crazycatlover ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:47:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Likewise. After my divorce, I lived with my parents for a few months and took over cooking. Now any time I visit, Mom asks me to make "my broccoli" because it's so good, and they love it so much. I toss some lemon juice and misc. spices on broccoli and roast it 10-15 minutes...that should be pretty easy to duplicate. Funny thing is that my parents' veggies are a huge step up from how Grandma makes them (boiled forever, drowned in butter and salt; Mom and Dad boil them briefly).

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:03:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:24:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pinterest is a great tool for finding recipes.

Throne-Eins ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 03:06:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was kind of an "unwilling vegetarian" until I was in my late teens because my mom could not cook meat to save her life. The only way she knew how was to boil the bejesus out of it until it turned into flavorless rubber. I couldn't even eat her roast beef because I would chew and chew and chew and it never broke down. I was afraid I would choke if I tried to swallow it. It wasn't until I moved and had meat cooked in restaurants that I fell in love with it.

She couldn't cook vegetables, either (again with the goddamn boiling), and I never cared for those until I learned what steaming was.

KingGumboot ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:38:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandmother's method of cooking any vegetables is to boil the fuck out of them for like half an hour. It's all just tasteless mush. My dad is 46 now and still struggles with vegetables as a result

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:52:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad was at another end of the spectrum. He has zero sense of taste unless he drowns whatever it is in chipotle/creole/cumin. I can't even eat green beans at his house without my tongue blistering.

My mom chops onions and potatoes into huge chunks no matter what and they never cook fully. Drives me nuts.

Nicekicksbro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:21:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow this thread is making me appreciate my mother's and father's cooking.

Dear_Occupant ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:54:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know, right? Mom is no gourmet chef but at least she can handle veggies and meat. She's even got a few dishes that would be worth paying for in a restaurant. I feel sorry for these folks that never got properly cooked meats and steamed veggies at home.

fuckface94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Probably has issues with his sense of smell. Ex father has zero ability to smell and eats lots of spicy things as taste and smell tend to go hand in hand.

Crazycatlover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:03:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was thinking veggies drowned in hot spices sounded good. Clearly, I've been away from New Mexico too long and should make some tamales to cure these strange ideas. My uncle drowns his vegetables in butter. Last time I visited, I was trying to discreetly wipe the butter off my green beans (they were soaked) when my uncle asked his wife "are you sure you remembered to put butter in these?" I automatically answered yes before she did. Uncle added more butter to his beans anyway.

My mother is obsessive about making sure that potatoes are chopped into chunks of equal size (she doesn't care how large or small they are). I understand the concept of same size chunks cooking at the same rate and appreciate that she has a good point. However, I think one could balance a jeweler's scale with them, and that's a bit excessive.

bestjakeisbest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

pinch of garlic pinch of salt and enough oil to grease the pan to cook it in, then they are supposed to be lightly sauteed unless they are onions those are supposed to be caramelized

Dear_Occupant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:56:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My buddy recently showed me his method, which is to lightly baste the veggies in olive oil and fry them in an ungreased skillet on low heat. He uses a lot less oil than I do and the seasoning is more even.

GhostOfBarron ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 03:31:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You sound like you are from the UK.

Throne-Eins ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:37:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haha, I'm American and so is she (though I see where you got that conclusion from). She's just freakishly paranoid about food poisoning. My brother tried to order a medium burger once and she steamrolled him and told the waiter, "No, he'll take a WELL DONE burger." And that's what he got.

bestjakeisbest ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:05:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

thats so sad because rare stake is the best stake. and a medium burger is unlikely to make some one sick not to mention kill some one. about the only meats she has to worry about are most shell fish and anything pork (personally pork chops are hard to tell if they are completely cooked for me because sometimes there can be some pink while they are fully cooked).

shmonsters ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:06:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A hamburger is much more likely to make you sick than a pork chop. Trichinosis is pretty rare these days, unless you're eating game. (I think there were only a few dozen cases in the entire US last year?) Hamburgers are ground meat, which means all the bacteria originally on the outside surface has been mixed up into it, so it's a little more important to cook them well. (Unless you want to roll those dice. You'll probably be fine if you have a decent constitution. I'd say it's a DC of like, 3.)

that1persn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What was your brother's reaction?

My_usrname_of_choice ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:02:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

mom

stocksy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:20:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

... is used in many parts of the UK.

My_usrname_of_choice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:41:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shit no it isn't. Name one.

stocksy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:05:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Around the West Midlands, Birmingham and the Black Country in particular, it's very common. Same with the North East - part of my wife's family is from Sunderland way and they say it and spell it 'mom'.

My_usrname_of_choice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:24:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well that was more than one.

Still find it hard to believe though. Are you sure you're not thinking of ma'am? They say "ma'am" as "mum" a bit.

stocksy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:16:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Quite sure, I've lived in the Midlands all my life. This is the nearest thing I can find to hand http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/mom-mum-how-brummies-talk-10475107

IntellegentIdiot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:22:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do they say mom though or do they say mum and just pronounce it as mom? Lots of northerners say maam but they usually write mum

fuckface94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

StepSons aunt broils everything and its all bland. Thankfully my wife and i are showing him what real food actually taste like.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:48:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait meat can be boiled? Like a steak. What the fuck

flyinthesoup ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:16:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Tough cuts of meat are great for boiling, like stroganoff or any kind of stew. It makes them soft and the broth is flavorful. But it'd be a crime to boil a steak or any other cut that's better grilled or seared.

Throne-Eins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:33:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's a prime example of "just because you can doesn't mean you should." I still won't eat roast beef to this day.

ColinOnReddit ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:23:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I started cooking because my parents can't. They thought I wanted to go to culinary school because of it. Nope. Just want to enjoy my food for once. Don't touch my cast iron, either.

Hahadontbother ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 04:34:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom boils chicken breasts. Whole.

Then puts them in a skillet with a tiny amount of vegetable oils to create a very small burned spot on either side.

Then serve.

They aren't dry, there's just no flavor at all. No spices are used, not even salt. It's the kinda thing you try to eat and your brain is like "no dude, this is clearly mud or clay. Dint eat that"

Nicekicksbro ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:11:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Chicken breast unaltered is one of the most boring meats out there. It's kinda like turkey actually.

SleepyEZ ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:14:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's all about the chicken thighs.

Hahadontbother ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:39:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One of the most boring foods imho.

Hell even rice I can add butter salt a pepper and get something palatable. (I don't like white rice. Brown or wild is good though)

Nicekicksbro ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:42:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

White rice with a crazy curry is great. They balance each other out so well. Brown rice is also amazing if the chef knows what he's doing.

Hahadontbother ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:35:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Never had curry. Seems to be a European thing I suppose.

Got any recipes? I don't even really know what curry is.

ArokLazarus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's Japanese curry and Indian curry are two main ones. No recipes off the top of my head but you could Google either of those to start you off. It's more or less a stew of meats and veggies served over or to the side of rice (Japanese style). The real thing that makes it different from say gumbo is the roux which can be difficult to get right without burning or being too strong or mild, at least in my experience. I think you can buy prepackaged roux too.

I had a hard time making it until I got a Dutch oven and then making curry was a breeze. If you like cooking I strongly suggest looking into it.

Nicekicksbro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:41 on September 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
bestjakeisbest ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:11:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

the only time my mom boiled chicken was to make home made chicken noodle soup.

Homeoftheblizzard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't understand this behavior.. why would anyone ever boil chicken unless it's a soup?

Hahadontbother ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:34:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Because you bought chicken breasts and you don't know what to do with it.

Also you are trying to lose weight so everyone in the household must dream with it.

AmaziaTheAmazing ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 04:34:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I grew up hating turkey at thanksgiving. Turns out that it isn't supposed to squeak when you chew it.

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:54:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yikes. My jaw is sore reading that.

AmaziaTheAmazing ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:05:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When the little red thing popped out saying it was done she would push it back in... multiple times usually with the line "but it hasn't been long enough". Of course it hasn't been long enough to you! You always cook it over 3 times too long! Your normal is not the right normal!

Nenor ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:55:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What red thing?

need-a-thneed ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:37:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

The family dogs red rocket of course. That good old boy can smell when a turkey's done juuuuust right.

Seriously though here's an explanation of those terrible turkey thermometers, in other words it was probably overcooked before that red thing popped. Or undercooked... Depends on the placement

Crazycatlover ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:54:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In my family, we just figure the turkey will always finish cooking at the wrong time. Some years it's ready early, and we're scrambling to get everything else cooked and on the table. Other years, we're trying to keep the side dishes warm while the blank-e-dy-blank turkey finishes cooking. The temperature is gospel though.

Still...each year we try to time all the other dishes to when the turkey is supposed to finish cooking. I guess we aren't very smart/are too stubborn for our goods.

Nicekicksbro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:16:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hahaha. That must have sucked.

Jack-is ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:27:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You know you're supposed to kill it first right

bunnypaca ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:07:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In my case it's beef. I've always eaten dry, rubbery beef (stir fry, not steak. We're an Asian family) that I dreaded thinking about cooking it in the future. I always thought I have to cook it for a very long time for it to become tender. But as I moved out and learned to cook, I realized I only have to cook it for less than 10 mins to get a tender, juicy meat. Beef dishes are my favorite to cook and eat now.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:53:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Learning cooking doesnt require hours of your time is life changing. Becomes so much less intimidating before/after work.

Nicekicksbro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The secret with getting tender meat while roasting is "baking" it by covering the meat with Aluminium foil over the grill. It's heavenly.

Taskmaster23 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:19:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dry chicken is the worst. So hard to eat.

Nicekicksbro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:13:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haha speaking of, we had some relatives visit us from Europe and they literally couldn't eat our free range chicken because of how "hard" it was. It was hilarious. KFC and Buffalo wings is not what real chicken is like! Haha.

Edit: I live in Africa.

ophelia917 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It goes to show how used to the mass produced "sodium solution injected, plumped up with god knows what else" chicken we are all used to. I'm probably guilty of it myself! We do get a good portion of our meat at Whole Foods, but something tells me your chicken would still be significantly different than what I am used to.

Nicekicksbro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Vastly different. My cousin's were crying because they didn't want to offend my grandmother :( She let it slide though haha.

I've had KFC and it tastes amazing, yet I feel it's like candy, it's good once in a while but you can't eat it as everyday food.

Taskmaster23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah if you ate KFC everyday, you'd blow up like a balloon.

ophelia917 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't even remember the last time I had it. It's like mush - very off putting to me. You can crisp out the outside as much as you'd like! It's not fooling me. :)

My husband and I had chicken tinga last night. Authentic and delicious! Served in charred (admittedly, store bought) corn tortillas, w/ queso fresco, diced shallots & a bit of hot sauce. I may be from New England, but I try to vary our cuisine and keep it as authentic as I can.

popsiclehousebananza ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:50:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents are Jewish and my mom puts the rotisserie chicken you get at the grocery store in the oven before serving it. I know you're pain

bestjakeisbest ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:51:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

boneless chicken thighs are the best cut of chicken you can cook, even if you suck ass at cooking you can cook a chiken thigh, little bit of oil in a pan then you put the chicken int there and put salt black pepper and garlic on it and as long as you dont purposely burn it it will never be dry, and then if you put them into casseroles that used chicken breast, just dont cook the chicken before you put them in the casserole just cook the casserole at 50 degrees warmer and for about 30-40 min longer if you are using a 9x12 pan, because most casseroles are very moist so the chicken will be really tender and basically all of the flavor of the casserole kind of gets into some of the chicken and it tastes wonderful.

SentientCloud ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:24:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

People always comment how good my chicken is and what I do. All I do is not burn it to a crisp and kill the chicken again.

willdagreat1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:28:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My father doesn't eat meat unless it's cooked dry. When he orders steak in a restaurant he orders it cooked so well done that "if the waiter's shoe fly's off, taking the steak with it to the floor, and they couldn't tell the shoe and the steak apart. Then it's done. Extra A1, please."

speckleeyed ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:29:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I need to cook this in my cast iron!

Sorry, I just inherited some 100 year cast iron skillets and they are the best pans I've ever had and I have been cooking almost every day in them.

biggreencat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:29:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Boiling chicken "to lock in the flavor"

buckus69 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:32:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad is paranoid about chicken. The last time I had his teriyaki chicken, about 10 years ago, it was so dry it was basically like chicken jerky...only even harder. Last time I ever went over for chicken.

beepbeepitsajeep ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:32:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I appreciate moist chicken. Strangely, I like dry chicken better. No it's not a symptom of my youth, mom knew how to cook chicken.

JonTin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:33:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A crock pot could change your life

CaptainToodleButt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:34:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep. My mom used to be shit at cooking. She would make us chicken and it would be the hardest thing for me to eat because she sometimes overcooked it and I didn't know the term "overcooked" at the age of 5 so I got yelled for for not wanting to get dried up chicken.

Now she's a better cook. She actually learned how to cool properly and her cooking is great.

mattstreet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:38:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Grew up eating so much horrible food like that. Not only was most everything over cooked, but she couldn't handle spices so everything was dry AND bland.

onemorelight ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:38:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents believed that steaks should only be cooked and eaten well-done. Growing up, any time we'd go out to eat (neither cooked beef, both were mediocre cooks), if they ordered a steak, they'd ask for well-done. Because of this, I didn't see the appeal of steak.

When I got to college, my boyfriend introduced me to the world of wonderful medium-rare steaks. I went home once and shocked my parents by requesting medium-rare at a restaurant; they were so disgusted when it came out. They kept going on how the "blood was disgusting, the pink color was gross", and when I told them to try and compare to dad's well-done steak, they claimed the well-done was juicier. Oh well.

A few years have passed since then and fortunately my dad has been shifting his tastes towards medium and medium-rare steaks. He's also learning beef recipes. Mom just doesn't enjoy beef.

UranusIsBestAnus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:48:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought I hated mexican food until almost college. It turns my mom puts ketchup in burritos and dips them in more ketchup, and that was the way she made them for me.

Bonus food example: My dad barbeques steak to well-done, but I decided to try mine medium-rare after seeing a certain King of the Hill episode. That was a life changing experience for teenage me.

vacax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What else was in these ketchup infused burritos exactly?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My buddy cooked me chicken parmesan

That's a great euphemism if I ever heard one. Especially in those exploratory freshmen college years.

RPSI3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:50:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They should follow this guide for cooking chicken http://www.ramsesthepigeon.com/chicken.pdf

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:57:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For real, my mom can be an amazing cook sometimes and other times she stops caring. Those days we do not get juicy, tender chicken. Those days I need a glass of water to be able to eat it. Although I think the easiest way to protect against dry meat is probably to just cook it in a crock pot and LET IT REST before cutting in. I swear everyone in my family cuts in immediately and lets all the juice spill out onto the plate. Any time I'm involved in the cooking, I make absolutely sure we rest the meat as long as I can hold them off from devouring it.

nybbas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:58:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I always hated steak because it "takes too long to chew". I finally had a steak that wasn't burnt to shit, and realized that I actually fucking love steak.

Whyexes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:58:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I prefer my fried chicken to be dry as possible, but grilled chicken has to be moist.

Snewheart ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:59:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

After reading much of this thread im happy my mom is an awesome cook

nutsaur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:00:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mum microwaved hash browns. I grew up thinking I didn't like them!

ChaplnGrillSgt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:00:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dear God, this must be way more common than I thought. My parents ALWAYS overcook their chicken (or boil it... Yuck) so I thought that's just how it tastes. Then I learned to cook by temperature and realized how juicy a breast can be. Needless to say, I don't allow my parents to cook me chicken anymore.

Bonzai_Tree ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:02:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For my mom--cooking anything. The funny part is, she can cook things properly and she's a good cook! She just PREFERS everything carbonized, so that's how I ate it growing up. I absolutely hated steak, burgers, etc., and could only eat chicken with tons of sauce.

Then I learned HOW to cook properly and it was a revelation.

PorkRollAndEggs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:02:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The nickname for me at a place I worked was "juicy chicken". Because I despised juicy chicken. I like chicken very well done. Not to the point of leathery dry, but well done.

kanttouchthis09 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:55:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same thing for me with Steak. Didn't realize I actually liked steak until I had one medium-rare and not a chewy excuse for a steak when I was 17.

PointMade_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:59:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I read that as "my buddy choked my chicken"

SanshaXII ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:08:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

My parents, despite having more than enough money and time, fed my sister and I absolute shit food. Here's a few of their recipes:

Vegetables - boil in water; serve.

Steak - fry on pan until brown through; serve.

Potatoes - mash, apply salt and butter; serve.

... I don't remember eating anything but that, actually. Meat that my jaw and teeth literally could not bite through, vegetables with all the nutrients boiled right the fuck out, and everything else was literally 'apply heat > serve'.

I still resent my mother for this. I'm 28, and vegetables still make me gag, because I can't get the taste of that boiled matter out of my mouth.

Now, my wife and I love cooking together, and make fucking wonderful meals. I have my chicken moist, my vegetables steamed, my steak blue fucking rare mom yes I know what I'm about and my pasta sauce from scratch.

captain_jackharkness ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:17:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here but with eggs. The only kind my parents ever made were plain, overcooked scrambled eggs with nothing but pepper for seasoning. I thought I just hated eggs until I was an adult. Now I eat omelettes and benedicts and fried egg sandwiches every chance I get.

TempestSeraphim ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:18:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ok really I have the hardest time with this. We cook so much chicken since I've been "dieting" and I can never find a balance between chicken that's done and chicken that has a bizarre texture that makes me feel like it's still too close to being raw.

rip me

tilsitforthenommage ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:19:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you ever need chicken recipes hit me up, I am good at making those poultry amazing

Uknow_nothing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:21:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep and another thing I learned is to never criticize mom's cooking if you want to not go hungry.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:21:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm teaching my mum how to Cook, not condescendingly just little stuff, she taught me some tips as well.

CocoBrolo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:23:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Welcome to the light. FYI seafood should also be moist, not the texture of pencil erasers and the best temperature for steak is a true medium-rare.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:26:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shout out to all those kids who thought all meat tasted kinda like liver... until they learned to cook themselves.

MrRightSA ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:36:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not meant to be dry? I feel bad for getting on my girlfriends back and accusing her of trying to food poison me now.

IntiemePiraat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:39:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad always cooks meat with a shitload of butter. It ruins the meat. I asked him once to either use less butter or use a little bit of oil instead. Didn't listen. Normally when meat is served at dinner, I'd love to get more. Not when my dad cooks.

PixelLight ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:41:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mum did the same with pork chops/loin. Hated them. At university I cooked them for myself. Quite happy to eat them now.

fatlazar123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:54:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom still cooks for me (even if I said I'd do it myself) and her chicken always taste dry in side and can't fucking stand it. Any ways to not make it dry?

willehahr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:21 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Heat up frying pan to low. Throw in olive oil to coat, and then add a chunk of butter for flavor. Throw in chicken, and then put the top on the pan.

Don't forget spices, etc.

insaneblane ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:55:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You never had chicken at a restaurant..?

willehahr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:22:52 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hated chicken so much that I always ordered something else at a restaurant.

Mute-Banshee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:07:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well... I like it dry.

mawnch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:16:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Chicky chicky parm parm

Jonsler ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:21:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My friend was the same way with steak. His mom had only ever made Swiss steak, fried in a pan. I took him out for a steak one time and though he's still not a huge fan, he likes steak now.

cowan283 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:42:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mum always cooked chicken in the oven in a casserole dish with the lid on and about an inch of water in the bottom. Roast chicken blew my mind

MrBardo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:55:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

At first I read that as 'cooking children'...

timthetollman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:40:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

From reading /r/foodgifs they all think that chicken should be overcooked and dry.

TareXmd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:41:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I never had al dente pasta at my household. Couldn't believe how big a difference it made.

dallabop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:04:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh god this. It wasnt until I visited the US 2 years ago that i had my first medium cooked steak. I grew up thinking that well done cooked meat was the proper way. I can't go back to that now, medium is just so damn tasty.

Anivair ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:06:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is a big one. So may people cook meat till it's gone dry. Makes no sense.

abandoningeden ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:20:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

every steak my mom has made in her life has been 'well done.' I didn't know there was even another way to eat steak until I was an adult.

DSAW517 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:21:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My folks have been vegetarian for most of my life, so I never actually got to experience this, but my talks about cooking chicken being difficult and it always coming out dry and/or rubbery. I've been cooking chicken for a few years now and have never had that problem.

btowntkd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:24:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My old boss hated chicken with a passion; she couldn't even be in the same room with someone else who was eating it for lunch.

It all stemmed from her childhood. Her mother didn't know how to cook, and would force her family to eat plain, boiled chicken. As in; she filled a stock pot full of water, heated it to a roiling boil, then threw in a few pieces of chicken breast. All of the flavor would cook out into the water and was then promptly discarded. The flavorless, colorless, rubbery chicken would then be served to her family, and they were powerless to refuse it.

...Poor girl.

djtemporary ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:25:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family made fun of me for years of putting ketchup on almost all the meats we'd have in the house. I was just adding moisture to it.

EditingTips ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:29:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, let's get the ball rolling.

Maxtsi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:35:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When my flatmate literally browns his chicken before he cooks it in curry sauce for half an hour I die a little inside. It must be so dry.

emrhiannon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:46:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ha, this one hits home for me! My mom boils chicken and forgets about it- so it either runs low on water and is tough, overcooked and dry or she turns it off, expecting to let it cool down and forgets about it, then feels like she needs it to boil again to make sure it's safe... Same result. The first time I boiled chicken I was so surprised to discover it took under 10 minutes and produced moist and easily shredable chicken!

brec1821 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:50:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was the same way, I just refused to eat meat. Hated it. Then I had a friend cook me chicken picatta, changed my life. My husband and I have been working on expanding my food experiences, though I still get weirded out by some textures.

Wreough ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:00:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I avoided all red meat because my parents only ate lamb. I grew up thinking all red meat is stinky and yucky like lamb. I discovered when I went back to them after some 6 or so years when I had begun eating beef and pork and saw that they only eat lamb. They were offended that I couldn't stomach it.

IntellegentIdiot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:00:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

While I had plenty of good chicken outside of home growing up I never really realised that the chicken my dad cooked every Saturday night was overcooked until I started cooking myself.

He'd score some chicken breasts and stuff some goats cheese and cherry tomatoes, cook for ages and serve with a sad looking garlic baguette.

Gneissisnice ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:00:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom is a great cook, but always overcooks pork. I always thought pork was just supposed to be dry, I figured it was basically just good for soaking up sauce.

Then I started cooking on my own and fund that pork can be a little pink. It's like a whole new meat when it's not well done, it's juicy and delicious.

willehahr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:27:46 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pork is 'one of those meats' that I will always overcook - always unsure how to cook!

astro_princess ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:06:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same with steak for me. I always hated steak and my friends thought I was crazy because of it. I thought they were crazy for liking it. When I saw them eat steak I would make a comment about their steak not being cooked all the way through and how that is horrible. Suddenly my problem was discovered. My fiancรฉ made me medium well steak and I loved it. Since then I've had medium rare and that was even better. I tried to feed my mom medium well but she wouldn't go for it. My dad and lil sister tried it reluctantly, and said it was the best steak they ever had lol.

dausy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:19:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I learned this as well. Got married to a man who knew how to cook and suddenly I didn't know what foods I hated anymore and what I had been missing out on.

My parents methods of cooking most meats? Put it on a baking sheet with lawrys seasoned salt and cook until flat dry meat bricks.

I've never liked chicken breasts because even at restaurants they come out dry. But thanks to the husband and YouTube I learned how to cook meat that isn't dry! Also meat thermometer is my best friend

duhnuhhai ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:22:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Chicken parm will do no harm.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:25:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Chicken isn't supposed to be dry? I'm leaving for college in ten days so maybe I'll finally learn

raouldukesaccomplice ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:08:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here. I'm very proud of my juicy, well-marinated chicken breasts.

My mom has actually told me outright that she always deliberately overcooks chicken slightly "just to make sure" nobody gets food poisoning.

Nicekicksbro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:09:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why would anyone get food poisoning from chicken? I'm in a third world area so maybe your chicken maybe different from our chicken, or the way you cook...

stocksy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:32:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not the person you asked, but I hat to see someone down voted for asking a reasonable question.

Our chicken usually carries campylobacter because of the way it is intensively farmed. I have been ill from it before and it is very unpleasant - I was unable to work or really do anything much for almost two weeks.

This article explains it more clearly than I can.

Nicekicksbro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:47:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

That's very interesting. Is it impossible to buy free-range chicken where you live? It sucks that you can't even trust the chicken you're buying to not give you food poisoning. It's definitely a foreign concept where I live. Our chickens aren't that clean either, but the major problem you'd have deal with is maybe tapeworms', but even that is a bit far-fetched.

stocksy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:54:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes you can buy free range chicken here and many people do, but there is no assurance that it will be free of campylobacter.

Crazycatlover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:11:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've been known to tell people the occasional food poisoning is worth it for reasonably-cooked food. I've never had food poisoning though, so it might not really be worth it. I cook my meat until it's done and no longer.

ManBearPig1865 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:16:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'll take the food poisoning over dry chicken, thank you very much.

timallen445 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:05:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good doesn't have to be burnt to be safe to eat. Timers are useful for cooking

vincoug ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:22:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thermometers are better.

KingGumboot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hated chicken when I was a kid. Turns out that Dad only liked roast chicken and mum isn't very good at making roast chicken

Csquared211 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My husband hated steak until he tasted how it should be cooked.

fakingreality ยท 4125 points ยท Posted at 00:48:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That just because someone is older than me doesn't mean they know more than me. Yes it's true I don't have as much experience or knowledge about things in the world but it is possible for me to know something that someone who is older than me doesn't know. My dad always used the "I'm older/wiser/more experienced" line if I said something a fact or piece of information that he didn't agree with or think was true. It made me feel a little insecure about what I know and if what I know is right or not.

I_PEE_WITH_THAT ยท 5513 points ยท Posted at 03:54:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom taught me that, I had to respect my elders even if they were possibly wrong because they were older and wiser. My dad on the other hand sat me down one day and said "son, people are fucking stupid, just because they are older doesn't mean they know shit from apple butter. I don't care how old they are, if they don't know their ass from a hole in the ground it's OK to call them a dumbass. You're going to run into people who are smarter than you, but you're also going to run into people who will make you wonder just how in the hell they manage to not drown themselves while taking a piss in the morning. You can know a lot or you can know a little, a smart man knows that he doesn't know everything, he also knows the value of common sense."

deusset ยท 1511 points ยท Posted at 05:16:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your father has a way with words

toocoolsquid ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 07:08:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I imagined his dad is Red Foreman.

CharlieThunderthrust ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 11:27:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A rare tender moment from Red.

kreedzclimbing ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:49:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Needs more feet in asses

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:19:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He is Red Forman. DUMBASS!

kuiq ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 07:58:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And his son has quite the memory

vuxanov ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 09:40:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or imagination.

h54h ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 10:05:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Most likely the latter. It sounds like some Marilyn Monroe quote on tumblr. It's a good quote tho.

Streetlamp___LeMoose ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 10:29:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Monroe was a dumb bimbo, nothing that wise ever came out of her mouth, into it maybe, but not out of it.

CitizenCold ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:32:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, if it went in it would've had to come out too. Unless she bit it off.

NewelSea ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:36:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

TIL dicks can be wise.

NewelSea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, I guess they can have some sort of beard at least.
Then again, that one is rarely white, or smooth for that matter.

Plightz ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:21:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You skeptics make the world so much more vibrant.

notquiteotaku ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 13:56:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're going to run into people who are smarter than you, but you're also going to run into people who will make you wonder just how in the hell they manage to not drown themselves while taking a piss in the morning.

It's like poetry.

CaptainSnippy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:36:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

don't know shit from apple butter

You don't know how much I'm going to use this phrase

It's amazing

MyNameIsSushi ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 10:32:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And he has a damn good memory to remember all that word for word.

leadabae ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:56:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Quick reminder that this story presumably took place years ago and unless OP has the memory of a computer or was taking notes on his father's lecture, these were most likely not his father's exact words.

owningmclovin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:27:17 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad was much the same way growing up. I realized later that he wasn't elegant on the fly. He is a man of few words so when he opens his mouth he wants the words to be remembered.

NvEnd ยท 175 points ยท Posted at 05:25:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother believes mother's are the absolute authority because she's a mother. With being older and more wise, doesn't understand why I fight with her on topics frequently. Though she was a 18y when she had my older brother and even though she preaches safe driving, everytime I'm in the car with her she'll refuse to wear the seat belt and will clip it behind her so the beeping sound will turn off.

ScrooLewse ยท 97 points ยท Posted at 06:22:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It sounds like she's spent her entire life being wrong, and for once had people in her life who didn't know more than she did (infants). So she's clinging desperately onto that ability to say dumb shit and not be called out on it.

NvEnd ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:57:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Granted she lived a tough life, I can't help but to love her but it's made it hard to hold a conservation without self deprecation.

Raiquo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:10:55 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

hard to hold a conservation without self deprecation.

What do you mean by that? Like, you can't talk to her without having to insult yourself?

NvEnd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:44:13 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

More like she tries to make me feel bad about myself. I had adifficult time at work when I was a host at red lobster just to let her know I was feeling frustrated, typical in cus. service industry (she does nails). Instead, she goes on to say maybe I just talk too much at work and I need to stop to focus on my job. My job literally consist of talking at all times but instead of talking with me, I get reprimanded so I stop talking to her about work. Other times she start a conversation by calling me fat playfully (I'm 210 lb and 6ft) so I retort by saying she's a jerk while smiling like I'm having fun so her response to that is to flip 180ยฐ and say I'm not allowed to say jerk cause I should respect my elders and that's a nono to mom's.

Graadash ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 07:14:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If somebody starts an argument with "As a mother" or any permutation thereof, I instantly know to disregard what they're saying and move on with my life.

slaaitch ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 09:35:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What if they say "As a mother, I can clearly recall that expelling a tiny human through your genitals is a terrible thing, and I have zero desire to repeat the experience"? That seems like a reasonable position for this hypothetical person to hold.

Graadash ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:42:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Anybody that's ever taken a shit that was a little bigger than normal can imagine that childbirth has to be a nightmare, and I feel as if desiring to have the experience once might be a tad fucked, therefore there is no reason to state that opinion with "as a mother".

lofi76 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:36:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Really nobody wants to expel a baby via their vagina. They want the baby...the world-entry method is typically not an option.

Bornsavage1983 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:53:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Never get hemhroids to point you need surgery. The first shit with a new ass hole makes me think of a saw movie directed by Tarantino.

Smaug_the_Tremendous ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:10:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, everyone knows you insert tiny humans into your genitals not the other way around.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:31:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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SadGhoster87 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 15:41:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Similarly, a person can have a great knowledge base, but if he or she starts a sentence with the word "Actually," I immediately ignore everything that comes after.

That just sort of sounds like a dickhole move on your part.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:25:40 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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linkforest ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 15:37:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mine thinks that just because she's my mother i should accept the way she is and love her. She's really ignorant, belittled me while growing up and still gives me "advice" that is just the most basic of common sense and I can't believe she thinks she needs too remind me. A few weeks ago I confronted her about how she pretty much always ended up being annoying and should chill a little and treat me like an adult so we could start having conversations instead of just her check-ups and lectures. Her response "I am your mother, get used to it, we will talk about this attitude issue of yours when you get back". And no change was made. And she wonders why I don't like talking to her.

SadGhoster87 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:40:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

she'll refuse to wear the seat belt and will clip it behind her so the beeping sound will turn off.

Yay, more work I have to do in order to put myself in mortal danger!

NvEnd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:52:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Seriously right? Drives me livid.

tadc ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:48:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

everytime I'm in the car with her she'll refuse to wear the seat belt and will clip it behind her so the beeping sound will turn off.

Jesus, why?

NvEnd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:54:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You won't like her reasoning, "it doesn't feel right over [her] chest". My sister picked up her habit till her first two car accidents.

tadc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:31:56 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Indeed I don't!

lofi76 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:34:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She failed you on comma usage, dude.

NvEnd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:47:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I grew up with the first five years learning Vietnamese till I went to school in chicago unable to talk to anyone. Then I spent then rest of grade school in bilingual till I got English downish ago my parents only spoke broken English to me. I got reprimanded for not knowing proper viet recently by 'rents but I have a asian English accent and broken English Vietnamese accent. It's embarrassing on two culture but I appreciate your comment.

lofi76 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:16:10 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh I was being a smart ass. Your grammar is great!

NvEnd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:17:23 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I respect that, thanks again homie. Keep it real. http://i.imgur.com/8ch4i5o.png

Doctah_Whoopass ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:32:32 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've been told I live in a "Benign Dictatorship." I'm more of a fan of a "Proletarian Dictatorship", but no no no, we cant have that.

BayushiKazemi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:33:10 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She'd be sitting in the back seat here. As far as I'm aware, the driver can be ticketed for the passenger not wearing their safety belt.

wagashi ยท 1055 points ยท Posted at 05:18:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

know shit from apple butter

This phrase is going into my vocabulary.

SilverSaberTooth ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 07:18:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your vocabulary doesn't know shit from apple butter

kerouacrimbaud ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:52:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There was a teacher at my high school who said the same thing all time, except he said "poop" not "shit"

gfysbro ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:52:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

*lexicon

PresidentTaftsTaint ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:33:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was thinking vernacular at first, but you're absolutely right. The word lexicon had slipped my mind

TheRufmeisterGeneral ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:05:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It already is.

gravityapple ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:42:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Add another one: you were still liquid when X happened/was invented/etc.

Soakitincider ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:21:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shit

Apple Butter

Now you're ready to face the world.

Egotripa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:05:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lexicon

arcticfunky ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:49:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that words goin in my vocabulary

Palindromer101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:21:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And the apple butter is staying safely in the fridge. It's local made and delicious.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:45:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

why do you have shit in your fridge???

wineforblood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:25:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This was my exact thought

amoodymermaid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:46:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That phrase is going to be worked into all of my conversations today.

lesonj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sad because now I can't look at my homemade apple butter without thinking it looks like shit :(

Jonathan924 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I grew up hearing shit from shinola

DrC8H10N4O2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:35 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a fan of apple butter; it's going in my word treasury also.

Meanbeanman123 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 05:21:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wise words from the man that sired /u/I_PEE_WITH_THAT.

rwbeckman ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:50:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Im convinced this is where the username comes from.

Cheese_Coder ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 06:11:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad had two phases he liked telling me "Help people without being asked to help them" and "Don't expect someone to help you without you asking for it" I once pointed out that these contradicted each other. He wasn't amused

thekerub ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 12:53:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It doesn't necessarily contradict. It just means that you should be a good person towards other people but just don't expect the world to be good to you.

Rathwood ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 05:25:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I like your dad.

MarklarMusic ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:22:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My father more taught me how overcome the "older/wiser" garbage when he told me to never change a tire because I might hurt my hands. He said it was dangerous, so I asked he why he took me skiing and shooting, etc. My mom straight up said, "oooo, he's got you now, john." i was different ever since that coversation.

someguy3 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:36:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wish I knew this sooner, learnt in my early thirties. I knew some people are less intelligent, but it goes further, people are idiots.

kamon123 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:42:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've legitimately met people that make me wonder how they made it to 30 let alone into their elderly years and also somehow have children that aren't dead. They cause a serious "how are you or your children still alive?" moment every time you talk to them.

starrynight451 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:43 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I learned that people are idiots within 1 hour of working retail.

WeaponsHot ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:11:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your dad had it right.

sonsofgondor ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:08:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Red Foreman?

Chronos_numbur_XIII ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:34:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's the name of the dad in That 70's Show.

eMeSsBee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:49:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your pop's a sav

oddish56 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:01:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Smart man

sturmhauke ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:21:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Was your dad So-Crates?

MNTwins420 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:21:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well now I want apple butter. Thanks.

Salem446 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:49:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your dad sounds like a very intelligent man.

syntaxvorlon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:06:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

know shit from apple butter

Found the mennonite!

I_PEE_WITH_THAT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:37:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haha I don't know where he got that phrase.

Pi4zza ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:08:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is that quote word for word? You have some damn good memory.

I_PEE_WITH_THAT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:44:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's easy when you only have to pick through a handful of memories when pops was sober. When I was younger he dispensed wise little nuggets often, as I got older his wise nuggets became yelling at me and going to jail for drunk driving multiple times. At 16 he decided I was a man so he could hit me, it's a weird day when you have to beat up your drunk dad.

Pi4zza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh. Sorry man. :(

Dorfalicious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:47:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your dad sounds downright amazing.

hybriddeadman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:06:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your dad likes metaphors.

ErockSnips ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:29:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your dad sounds like a cool guy

ameya2693 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:38:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here.

gyrox007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:52:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Read that dad quote in Frank Underwood's voice.

TheHapster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:57:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's quite a long quote to memorize.

tbonemcmotherfuck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:32:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Did he tell you that yesterday? because that is a precise recollection of a conversation

rythaman94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:59:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

me too. -_-

Demmitri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:37:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I love your dad, wish it was my uncle.

User839 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:06:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

you're also going to run into people who will make you wonder just how in the hell they manage to not drown themselves while taking a piss in the morning.

True story

ash3s ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:07:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your dad is Forrest Gump's mama?

PashSpice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:02:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I love this

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:09:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck. Nice.

OnAMissionFromDog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:11:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think you'd enjoy this article

PaulDraper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:27:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What is Apple butter?

Katherchino ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:29:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ngl this is one of the most wonderful things I've ever read

conitation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:49:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think I can pee with that.

GazzaON ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:57:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Was your dad Red Foreman?

mechapoitier ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:08:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know if I remember any paragraph my dad's ever said to me verbatim.

NewTranslator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:11:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I love your dad.

I_PEE_WITH_THAT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:45:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can have him, just supply him with a slab of tall boys a day.

Kaiser_Kat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:24:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
  • know shit from apple butter
  • don't know their ass from a hole in the ground
  • not drown themselves while taking a piss in the morning

Thank you for expanding my vocabulary, mister.

lofi76 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:33:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hmm. I'm going to paraphrase that.

TheTrackPadUser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:07:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I like your father, and his vocab.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:11:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Randy, people are fucking stupid, just because they are older doesn't mean they know shit from apple butter. I don't care how old they are, if they don't know their ass from a hole in the ground it's OK to call them a dumbass. You're going to run into people who are smarter than you, but you're also going to run into people who will make you wonder just how in the hell they manage to not drown themselves while taking a piss in the morning. You can know a lot or you can know a little, a smart man knows that he doesn't know everything, he also knows the value of common sense."

Thanks, Mr. Lahey

sleightofhand80 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:21:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

he also knows the value of common sense."

I love it

aim_at_me ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:22:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your father was far wider than your mother.

redditallreddy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:28:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have always been "precocious." (Read that as "Very smart, knows it, and can be a little snot about it.)

But I do learn, and listen, and read.

I observed that there were a lot of things that adults got wrong. Interestingly, I didn't get judgy about that; it was merely a factual observation. So, when I heard about the "respect your elders" thing, I immediately took it with a grain of salt.

However, I also got to thinking that most proverbs probably have a kernel of truth otherwise they wouldn't stand the test of time. I thought about that for a while, and come up with this.

Respect everyone first; when they give you reason to stop respecting them, that is when you can disrespect them.

No matter how smart I am, there is always someone smarter; look for these people.

No matter how smart someone is, they will make errors; it doesn't make the less, but knowing this allows me to work with them as a peer and not merely an assistant.

and... finally for this discussion...

People older than me have good stories; I may or may not learn a truth directly from their ideas, but I will learn something about humanity by listening intently and not immediately judging. It may even been fun, particularly when most ridiculous.

Zerotan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:40:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I like to think you were 4 at the time.

danwroy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:52:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Quite the uh memory you have

teejaymc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:57:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Now see, that's good advice.

ShadowPhoenix22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:23:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's beautiful. Kudos to them.

TrollMcAnally ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:24:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"...a smart man knows that he doesn't know everything, he also knows the value of common sense."

This is excellent and has been my mantra since I figured it out as an adult. Many people have issues in which they have to feel like they are smarter than they are, or feel in control. Some are older people and they will try to use their age as some sort of leveraging tool to make themselves look better or feel on control. Once you see it, you see it everywhere and start to feel a little sad for them.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:33:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You got an awesome dad

GatorGladiator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:44:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're going to run into people who are smarter than you, but you're also going to run into people who will make you wonder just how in the hell they manage to not drown themselves while taking a piss in the morning.

Your dad is fucking amazing.

BoredSurfer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:48:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You Dad was a great man.

Vleda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:55:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad's great wisdom he shared with me was that most stupid kids grow up to be stupid adults. I'm in my late 20's now and he wasn't wrong.

Prison_Vape ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your dad is a god damned poet.

Rustyhimself ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dippin_Emma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is your dad by any chance dr. cox?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Saved your father's words for later use. He's absolutely on point

Wildaz81 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandmother used to tell me "wildaz81, age and wisdom don't always come together. Sometimes age just shows up by himself."

SadGhoster87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:39:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

son, people are fucking stupid, just because they are older doesn't mean they know shit from apple butter. I don't care how old they are, if they don't know their ass from a hole in the ground it's OK to call them a dumbass.

My dad doesn't tell me this because he doesn't like contradiction at all

Mercinary909 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:43:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is beautiful.

neurospex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:56:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"he also knows the value of common sense, and that common sense isn't common." ;)

Squishy_Pixelz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What an awesome dad

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your dad sounds awesome.

Not__sam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

From the south?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'd love to have a beer with your dad

Dongtron808 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:37 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is the kind of father I want to be. Keeping shit real.

DrC8H10N4O2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:50 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I like this

faithfuljohn ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:17:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not sure I agree with either parent here. You can show respect, but doesn't mean you have to agree. They are not mutually exclusive things. Also you can disagree with someone without calling them names either (even if they are being stupid).

Or am I being too diplomatic here?

citrus_slinger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:15:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Too diplomatic, if somebody is old enough to be pulling the experience card but outright wrong in every sense of the word, they do not deserve your respect, they deserve your pity.

faithfuljohn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ya, but this dude's dad was telling him to straight insult them. I think there's a wide margin between respect and insulting. It is possible to respect a person and not necessarily respect their words or opinions. I mean, if your child maybe says something stupid and then you insult him... is that good? No.

Now if they are dis-respecting you, I can understand that. But I've never known any situation where insulting someone has ever made a situation better.

ameya2693 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:42:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, I have to agree with /u/faithfuljohn on this one. You can be respectful and disagree with someone entirely on the topic. It all depends on the context. If respect means blind agreement with what the elders say, then, its stupid. If respect means trying to see what the elders say from their perspective, then, its pragmatic.

We must always be a ruthless pragmatist in life.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:42:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I dont understand the idea that some deserves any more respect than they're owed just because they've managed to not die for a while.

faithfuljohn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:49:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I dont understand the idea that some deserves any more respect

I was going by the principle of everyone deserves some respect until they show otherwise. Because if your respect depends on what you think of their knowledge, how are you better than the idea that older people should get respect simply because they've lived longer?

ameya2693 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:29:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Its not for random older people down the street. Specifically, maintaining some respect for elders in your family creates an order within the family and maintains some cohesion. Otherwise, families would fall apart and marriages break down and no respect is ever gained by any parent as even parents who try and do good for their children are seen as bad parents. Respect for your elders keeps your family together.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:45:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nah fuck that mate, not all my elders deserve respect.

ameya2693 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:51:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fair enough. I always feel the opposite, but, to each their own and I do not know your family situation. :)

UXM6901 ยท 103 points ยท Posted at 03:41:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom does this. The best insult she has for me is "little girl" "listen here, little girl" "trust me, little girl" "you just can't understand yet, little girl."

Nevermind the fact that I have traveled the world on my own, earned a Master's degree, worked for several major institutions, then myself, lived on my own away from home for 12 years now. She's still in the same city she was born in, living off my grandfather's estate, and the only job she ever had was 25 years ago working for her father. It's not like I have ever asked her for parenting advice ever, so all she's got in her arsenal is that she's older than me, and therefore infinitely wiser.

I finally put her in her damn place when she was telling me what to wear for a job interview a few years ago. That felt good.

prillin101 ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 04:01:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"I've done more in 8 years than you have your whole life"

Silist ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:46:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He got a hand job from a miner on a ferris wheel

Ashen_Vessel ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:58:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

little girl

got a handjob

Alright.

Silist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:26 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

miner not minor

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Experience doesn't magically come with the years. People can be old and never learned a goddamn thing in their life.

Asteria_Nyx ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:25:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's my mom too. If she does it I call her 'old lady' because she has a huge insecurity revolving around her age. If you're over 50 and you can't stop yourself from being an insulting prick to your daughter, I'll give it right back with no remorse.

Built-In ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:42:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What was her reaction?

UXM6901 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:18 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She just looked at me like I kicked her puppy and changed the subject.

Mazzelaarder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:45:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If that's her best insult for you, your best insult for her is "old woman" (or if you really wanna throw fuel on the fire "old hag").

Zerotan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:44:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You could remind her that name-calling is very immature.

AmaziaTheAmazing ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:47:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've had people try that on me for tech stuff.

"I work IT! I know how to change a screensaver!"

"Oh you don't know anything, it's gotta be here somewhere in the Goog-le."

opens internet explorer toolbar simulator 1998 and types in screensaver

"See! I got it!"

[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 06:29:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This of course coming right after them demanding you to help, then refusing to let you even touch the keyboard.

Zerotan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:48:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair, for any new issue in IT, first explore, then ask the Goog-le

Lostsonofpluto ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:46:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandmother's thing is claiming that my politely correcting her, is me undermining her authority

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:53:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'd tell her that if she were deserving of authority, she'd be right more often and therefore need to be corrected less.

ILikeYouABunch ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 07:46:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

This makes even less sense.

To clarify, just because she deserves authority, does not mean she will be correct more often. Plenty of people deserve authority, this does not make them automatically correct.

If you want to be a smart ass, try to at least first make logical sense. Anyone with any reasoning skills whatsoever would hear what you said and think you're a fucking moron.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:01:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Because it is going to piss her off more? Damn right! The biddy deserves a stroke or heart attack for being human filth... assuming u/lostsonofpluto was actually correct. If they were wrong and correcting grandma, no matter how polite, she should be pissed.

ILikeYouABunch ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 08:14:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It would piss me off because I'd be so disappointed in myself for indirectly producing a human with such a lack of basic reasoning skills.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:54:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I lack reasoning skills, eh? That is nice. I think you need to clarify a bit more for my stupid ass to understand.

ILikeYouABunch ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 09:39:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I attempted to clarify my point in the original comment. Apparently what I said makes no sense.

I guess since I don't deserve authority, I'm not correct. If I did deserve authority, my correction would be sound, and you'd be wrong.

Logic.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:27:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'll explain this for you because I'm a nice guy and you're apparently a little dull. There are a couple kinds of legitimate authority. People typically have authority over themselves and their property. Great! Others have authority if and only if they're more knowledgeable. That's the kind of authority we're talking about here and it is predicated upon correctness. Grandma doesn't have that. Are tyrants wrong a lot? Fucking right they are. Any semblance of authority they have is bogus though and they should be put in their place. Grandma is a tyrant and needs to be taken down a peg or three.

ILikeYouABunch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you for explaining so kindly.

Others have authority if and only if they're more knowledgeable. That's the kind of authority we're talking about here and it is predicated upon correctness.

This is where we disagree. Grandma isn't claiming to be an authority on a specific subject. If she were smart enough to become an authority on a specific subject, I highly doubt she'd be irritated by a correction, otherwise how would she have learned enough to become an authority in the first place!

She's likely referring to this usage.

the power or right to give orders, make decisions, and enforce obedience.

In most families, the parents are the ones who give orders, and children are the ones who must obey. Here's an example where a correction would undermine authority.

"Go to your bedroom"

"It's a loft ma, duh!"

"You're an asshole"

I'm not sure how you imagined the conversation, perhaps it was something like

"Turtles can't breathe through their butts. I would know, I'm an authority on turtles!"

"Actually they can breathe though their butts"

"Don't undermine my authority!"

"Grandma, that makes no fucking sense"

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you for explaining so kindly.

You're very welcome.

This is where we disagree. Grandma isn't claiming to be an authority on a specific subject.

Are you sure? A lot of mothers think feel they are an expert on everything when they become mothers. They magically become teachers, doctors, chefs, chauffeurs, and who knows what other stupid shit.

She's likely referring to this usage... the power or right to give orders, make decisions, and enforce obedience... "Go to your bedroom"...

I doubt it's that given the context. You're absolutely wrong if you tell a grown man or woman to "go to your room". But, let's just say you're somehow right. It is some sort of power trip. It is illegitimate power. It's wrong.

I'm not sure how you imagined the conversation, perhaps it was something like

"Turtles can't breathe through their butts. I would know, I'm an authority on turtles!"

"Actually they can breathe though their butts"

"Don't undermine my authority!"

"Grandma, that makes no fucking sense"

I could easily see that. A couple years ago I had a similar situation with mine while visiting for Christmas. I threw a wet towel on the heat exchanger in a guest bathroom to dry it out. Having done work on the system before I knew it used hot water under minimal pressure. I knew it couldn't get over the auto ignition temperature of cotton. She and my mom flipped out, not because I was leaving a mess or planning on reusing it like a slob, but because they were certain that it would catch fire. I corrected them and it didn't matter one bit! I couldn't possibly know what I was talking about even though I have a PhD in chemical engineering and have forgotten more than they'll ever dream to know of thermodynamics.

Zerotan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:53:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Uh... yeah...

This is why are leaders are elected or promoted through demonstrated skill and experience, not inherited or by seniority (hopefully)

hubife13 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:46:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

lol my dad used that line all the time. Except it made me feel validated b/c I could see through the bullshit.

progrocker2 ยท 83 points ยท Posted at 03:35:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

As someone who teaches elementary school kids, I have to do this all the time. If those kids catch you not knowing your shit, it's over. It's easier to just say you're older and you know something, especially when you get the ones that keep asking "why" to everything. I once had this kid who wouldn't play his violin. I asked why he wouldn't, he said "mom says it costs too much, and I'm gonna have to quit." This killed me, money was always tight growing up, and I felt for him. I asked "how much do you need to stay in?" And he said "i'ma need about tree fiddy." It was about that tone I realized that it wasn't a kid at all, but a giant monster from the Paleozoic era. That God damn Loch Ness monster had gotten me again.

AmaziaTheAmazing ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 04:44:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

OH COME ON!!!

aPandaification ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 04:46:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I actually face palmed because I believed it...

dragonboy387 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:16:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I looked at this comment, looked up and read, and was then blindsided.

I'm not a clever man.

ma774u ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:14:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nowhere is safe.

WeaponsHot ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:12:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fucking son of a BITCH!

More_Slack_Needed ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:02:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ok, this was the first one of these that actually got a laugh out of me. Good show, take my up-vote.

You_Stealthy_Bastard ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:12:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

GODDAMNIT

Calvincoolidg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:48:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I like this one the best.

[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:17:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandmother does this.

It sucks

MehitsjustCharlie ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:05:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Baby Boomers are infamous for this line of thought.

MetalRetsam ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 04:47:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

*Older people from hierarchical cultures

Don't fall into the trap, don't end up an asshole because you thought they went extinct.

Zerotan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:50:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I actually told my father in law with successful sarcasm that my generation would be fine if they'd all just retire already

Amberleaf29 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:29:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I used to kind of think this. Then I got into computers, and I quickly learned that quite a lot of people older than about 30 have nooooo idea about anything involving computers - including people under 30, but I'm only 20, so I still seem to consider "real" adults to be about 30 and up! (That's also a pretty freaking weird mindset, by the way.)

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:14:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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booper_dooper_balls ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:45:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad is always like "I wish I could use a computer like you and your brother do"

You can. It's just you've never actually asked us to show you how and we know for a fact you hate change (he would get mad if we would switch out an old couch with a nicer one in the same spot in a room he barely ever goes into) so we don't bother trying to show you how because we don't want to get yelled at after 5 minutes of trying to tell you how to simply turn it on. Not our fault you didn't bother keeping up with the time when computers were becoming a thing.

Amberleaf29 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm (usually) fine with it, as it allows me to feel superior in at least that one aspect! :P Haha, well, not really, but I've learned a token amount about computer specs and stuff because I'm trying to build my own computer, and I've found that beyond "I turn it on and it works", a lot of people just have no clue about anything. Processor? Lol, what's that?

booper_dooper_balls ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:37:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you Matilda?

ledditlememefaceleme ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:13:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

THIS. SO MUCH THIS! I'M MAKING AN ANGRY NOW! HULK SMASH! ARRRRRRRRGHH GOD PEOPLE WHO FOLLOW THE OLDER = 10000% BETTER SHIT PISS ME OFF ARAWJRNAJKFNA:FKJL RABBLE RABBLE

Seriously though, it does. My mom has this idea that older people are ALWAYS better and right and smarter. And she thought the French spoke Spanish.

SynisterBaconLord ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:16:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A lot of people in my family would tell me this, but in my early teens I came up with a retort that would piss them off.

"If age is enough to make everyone know the truth, then why are there two political parties with basically opposite ideas about how the country should run, both filled with old people?"

I was pretty proud of myself, and they never did give me a good answer.

karpathian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:52:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There are instances when wisdom of the elderly comes in handy though. Mine knew which of my relationships would fail plus how fast and why, and how to handle money.

Simim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I grew up, I realized my parents did this to me because they were worried I'd take advantage of their fallibility.

They were right, too. I was an asshole kid.

lastpieceofpie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'M SMART, YOU'RE DUMB, I'M BIG YOU'RE LITTLE!

slick8086 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I stopped believing that when I started beating my stepdad at chess.

NewWorldOrder781 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This isn't because of my parents but I also have terrible insecurity about speaking of things in public and not knowing every little detail. Honestly I think it's the hate culture on Reddit of people who don't fact check that really pushed me over the edge on this. I used to talk without thinking much and now I if I talk I'm afraid I will say something stupid and people we bash me for it.

temp3098409183 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't have as much experience or knowledge about things in the world

Not even that is necessarily true.

Who's the better driver, somebody who's driven to work for 10 years or somebody who's been a taxi driver for one?

It's very easy - human nature even - to stop learning and improving once things are "good enough" and instead just repeat the same pattern over and over.

So yeah, I bet there are plenty of people older than you with less experience.

Morjor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Every single time I disagree with my parents they make me read ephesians 4. I'm so done at this point. Then they always try to guilt me.

DemeaningSarcasm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

An older person can just give you a different perspective by which you can view things. But it's still on you to figure out if that's worthwhile or not. Its always a good thing to listen, but not always a good thing to obey.

peepeeparty9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I spout out a lot of information just by nature. Some of it ends up being false but I also present unreliable information as unreliable so whatever. My mom and her friends are all rock climbers and even though they started years before me, took the belay class long ago, and have much more experience in all parts of the sport. I take in and remember information that intrigues me. I just took my belay certification class and learned many things that they never found interesting and retained or maybe their teacher didn't say it. Like the reason for using the belay loop on the harness is to keep from loading a carabiner in multiple directions which is something they are not built to do or that the gym ropes are wrapped around a bar at the top that produces the right amount of friction to allow your climber weight to belay-er weight ratio to be 3 to 1 instead of the typical 1 to 1 ratio that is normally used outdoors.

Bloodloon73 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad always used the "I'm older/wiser/more experienced"

Not with computers!

But in a lot of other ways, yes.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:21:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to learn this the hard way over the years. I no longer respect old people for being older. The amount of stupidity is mind-boggling.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:33:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I definitely agree, although I do find it amazing to think about how much new knowledge one gains in a year even without consciously trying to learn new things. It doesn't mean that a person who is older than you should make decisions for you, since there is no way that person knows you better than you do yourself. But it does mean that if an older person seems to know a lot more than you do and that makes you feel a bit insecure, you should cut yourself some slack because they have the unfair advantage of simply having been alive longer than you have.

Dongalor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God, so much this. I had the same thing drilled into me growing up. It gave me such a screwed up relationship with authority figures once I entered the working world. I took so much shit with a smile, and happily jumped on the grenade for incompetent supervisors on more than one occasion.

My dad continuously let me down over the years, but that innate infallibility he drilled into me as a kid was hard to shake. Discovering he was as much a moron as the next dumbass. I didn't really understand that everyone was faking it and no one actually knew what they were doing until I was over 30.

natural-fibers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:52:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Tell that to East Asia where they take elder superiority to a whole nother' level. Oh, you don't want to do something? Too bad, your elder wants you to do it and you don't want to offend them. Oh, your elder is being an asshole? Deal with it and be nice because he's your elder. Always do what the elders want.

Respecting your elders is important but I've always thought East Asia take it too far with it in their culture by doing everything their elders want regardless of their own wants, and treating the youngest like maids. The elder respect system in Asia is hardcore and in Korea it's hard to be friends with people who are older/younger than you because of that.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:55:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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fakingreality ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:21:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hey ;)

oiraves ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:59:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had this epiphany after having to get a job as a kid, I was told (by a homeless guy) that I HAD to respect him because he was an elder, it clicked that one of thw two of us was paying bills

Hullu2000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:01:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I live in Finland and the only person who behaves like this (and the ways described bellow) is my English father. Maybe it's a cultural thing.

Spacegod87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:08:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also, people who say that while older people may not know something you know, they're wiser because they've lived longer. This is true for many older people, in fact most, but some just flat out haven't done anything with their life, even at an older age.

SD__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:25:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Doesn't it just piss you off when they're right though?

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As a teenager I knew my (non mechanically minded) father was being ripped off by the local garage. One of the spark plugs was never being changed. It was obvious it had a hellicoil which could only have happened if the garage had fucked up by not having the special tool required for it. We knew because when we attempted to replace it with our standard tools, the hellicoil started to come loose rather than the spark plug. Some months later he needed an alternator and was real pissed about the price. I knew it could be got for less than 3rd price. Reluctantly he agreed to let me do the work.

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Not one but two defective (by the supplier) alternators later, he took it back to his local garage, citing wisdom over youth. Consequently that spark plug never got changed until his passing. My father spent the last few years of his life having to deal with a nasty misfire on cold, engine. He once ran into a lamp post and had to sue himself. That's another story though!

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:37:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

People always say "Iยดve been doing this for fourty years", well you can also do something wrong for fourt years. And most people do. Or at least donยดt do it as well as they could.

I respect every human being as a human being, but i will never give someone extra respect just for a title or their age. I respect actions and facts.

Every person in this world doesnยดt know anything about 95% of all things that happen in this world. No one is an expert at everything, and no one even comes close to that. If you accept that and simply deal with it you will be much more successful in life, the people who canยดt deal with that and try to hide it are usually the ones donยดt make it very far, because being aware of the mistakes you make is the first part of getting better.

spiritbx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:38:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can't really help you with that, but just remember to learn about science and it's process and teach that to your possible future children.

With the scientific process, you aren't right because you are older, you are right because you have demonstrated the facts and the evidence. Kids are smart, if you teach them to think critically and do it with them, they will keep it when they grow up.

AmericanSince1639 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:00:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Smartphones have been a game changer for that sorta thing.

"Oh yea, think I'm wrong? Well here's the wiki article."

TruthFromAnAsshole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:11:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

sounds better than having a dad way smarter thab you who embaraases you in every argument....

skooched ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:38:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was always taught that you respect your elders no matter what. They may or may not be right, but you still show respect. It you are in a situation where you have to disagree with them (they think cutting the blue wire will diffuse the bomb but it is obviously the red wire) then disagree without insulting them.

Orisara ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:36:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As somebody who has a decent overview on how my parent' business works(family business with 3 employees) I can tell you, it's sometimes painful.

I'm studying to be a bookkeeper. My mother who now works in the company is a nurse, my father is an electrician and a teacher.

YES, I know more about your damn taxes.

thr33m0jo3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:36:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My uncle always applies wiser and older when it comes to technology because he was into computers when they first became commercially available and will try to tell me i'm doing somthing wrong when it comes to IT in spite of me having a degree in the field and him not being able to plug his computer in properly.

twerps ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:53:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I deal with this at work all the time. At least the times a week I hear "Trust me. I've been doing this for 20 years". I want to tell them "yeah well that stopped meaning anything a long time ago."

The people there make the same mistakes over and over again and it costs hundreds of thousands of dollars in re-work. I've been there a year now and they are just now starting to realize that a "experienced" person can fuck shit up all the time.

TooManyMeds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:47:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A manager at my work is like that. I've played the clarinet for 13 years. He can strum 3 chords on a guitar, and is experienced with audio technology.

Every time I'm with a customer talking about brass and woodwind he will cut across things I say and give people wrong information.

But of course I can't contradict him because he just thinks that I know nothing because I'm 15 years younger than him.

Just the other week he took over my customer so that I could take out the garbage, and sold her a pack of clarinet reeds (she was a beginner player and these were her first reeds.

The woman was learning the oboe.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:21:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had the opposite problem (not my parents fault, though). It's taken me a while to realize that just because I'm naturally intelligent and more introspective than most, doesn't make me automatically wiser than people with twice my life experience.

fakingreality ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:30:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can totally relate to what you said. I also tend to be very introspective about things, like "why do I do something or have that certain reaction? How can I change what I do or my reaction?". And sometimes I have to stop myself from being judgmental if I can't visually see someone else look inwards at themselves. It's not always something I can see. I have consciously stop myself from being an asshole.

SmartPlant_Gremlin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:32:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I bet he knows about commas.

_GameSHARK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:21:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My Korean friend says this sort of thing is an issue in her country. The idea that your elders are effectively your superiors almost solely because they are your elders.

Ragnarandsons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:22:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandfather always uses this as a means of defeating me in a political argument. He is quite conservative and at times bigoted (still love the man, though). I have a somewhat left-leaning view, at least in comparison to him and often challenge these ideals of his. It's at this point he brings up this quote (I believe to be from Mark Twain) at how young and ignorant I am now and how I will come to realise how much he knows when I grow up. I'm twenty now, and nothing's changed much.

Zerotan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:38:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother and uncle are embroiled in a huge argument over inheritance and are sad and angry that they'll never work it out.

Too bad that they're both arguing like children.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:38:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Then you realize that the insecure people were the ones who used that line

BitchySIL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:49:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to have that talk with my daughter. She was in Kindergarten and always did what everyone told her, no matter what. It was the second day of school and she rode the bus. The teacher put her on the wrong bus. She knew it was the wrong bus, but got on because she was told to. Then she sat there without saying a word until the driver asked her if she was getting off at the last stop. She told him it wasn't her stop and that wasn't her bus. By that time, I was frantically calling the school because the neighbors kids were playing outside and my daughter was nowhere to be seen. I told her that you have to speak up when you see a mistake. Adults aren't always right. You just have to speak up in a respectful manner.

Singurularity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:52:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I used to believe the same because my father's answer to anything that went against him was "You're too young to be right", but then I discovered a youtube channel presented by a kid 2/3 my age and thrice as smart as I am.

Suck it, dad, the moon can looks another color than white.

MurlocWalker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:59:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My father is the same. No matter what it is he is right and I am wrong. I'm 31 now too.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:03:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents are like this, especially when it comes to healthcare related things. I'm a nurse.

Xolotl123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:18:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think everyone has this, it just varies when you un-learn this. Considering I have 3 more university degrees than both my parents put together it just sort of happened.

Eskelsar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:32:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes yes yes! This shit can really fuck people up! Until a few weeks ago, I had never even considered the origins of some of my behaviors, and upon much thought, I realized that I have the same issue you discussed of insecurity over knowledge and being correct about things.

I almost always feel lesser than those around me, especially family members. It's like I'm waiting for someone to question me or talk down to me, then I run with it in an attempt to shut the other person down. When I was a kid, I never was taught the proper way to hash out a subject in an effective way. There was no hashing of anything.

I could simply phrase a question wrong, and if my dad didn't like my tone, I was ARGUING! What a fucking word, and the tone that he said it with. "DON'T ARGUE WITH ME" or "WHAT DID I SAY ABOUT ARGUING". My memory is foggy, but I almost dare to say that he literally told me once NEVER to question authority.

Had me write down a bible verse saying to respect your parents like Bart Simpson on the chalkboard. Constantly obsessed with the integrity of his opinions, and highly angered when they were challenged. My mom, while more accepting of different opinions, would arbitrarily choose times where it was okay to poke at her buttons, and times where one too many questions or ideas put forth by me brought out her angry face, which consisted of bugged-as-fuck eyes, gritted teeth and tensed jaw.

I don't know where I'm going with any of this. It fucks you up. That's all it is. All my behaviors are clearly a conglomerate of my parents, plus what I've chosen to let in to (hopefully) eventually give me my own stride.

fakingreality ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yupp!!! Completely agree!! I got the "you always have to argue with me about everything" as well or if I didn't agree with something he said that I was "not respecting him". Sorry but it IS possible to have a different opinion than someone else and still respect the other person! Crazy idea!

I didn't know my parents had other children I wasn't aware of - hello sibling!

xboxg4mer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:46:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad did this all the time, I remember when I was like 11 I called him out and said I was smarter than him (I probably wasn't) and he said I'm older and you'll never be smarter, I'm older now and much, much, much smarter than him (not to brag).

loki93009 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:48:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This exactly.

There are somethings my 5 year old knows better than me and it's weird but I have to listen to her.

She's obsessed with planes helicopters etc and Pokemon so she knows wayyyyyy more about them than I do. Because I don't have people read me textbook kind of books about them.

My sister who is 10 years older than me and accept that my daughter knows more about planes and Pokemon than her but she cannot accept I know more about topics I love than she does.

ItsJustJoss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have had this argument with my mother I don't know how many times. She thinks that age just magically makes what you think undeniably accurate and correct, and nothing else could possibly make more sense because "you are 35 years younger than me!"

octeddie91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My fiancรฉ is slowly learning this. Her grandfather is very old school "elders know best" kind of person. Even though some of what he says isn't right at all or is laced with racism.

Some is right though. Some isn't. Respect your elders and always listen to them has always been bullshit. You respect me and I'll respect you. It's mutual. But God damn, just because your older than myself doesn't mean you have the right to tell me what I have to do and know better than I do with some things.

i_izzie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:13:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A male family member told me little girls should be seen and not heard and my mom told him he was just mad because I was right thanks mom!

InvalidKoalas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've found they generally know a lot about practical things, like how cars work and how to fix them, or electrical or plumbing etc... But anything social or technological is completely foreign to them because it's all so new and they have no experience with it.

amor_discendi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:43:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It took me a long time to get this same idea out of my skull.

Then someone said "A person can have 20 years of experience, or one year of experience 20 times."

It blew my mind to think and review that some people really never learn from life and it's experiences, they never augment or are enriched by the trials and successes. They truly live the same life with the same views year in and year out.

I later figured out this was the difference between a fixed mindset and a growth mindset.

AnneAnaranjado ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This was the biggest revelation of my adulthood: Adults are just children in taller bodies that pretend that they know what they are doing, but in fact, nobody knows what they're doing. Or at least, not more than I do.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:00:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yup, same here. My mother things she's the most intelligent person in the world and an expert on everything because she's older than I am. She also feels that every single one of my friends is a dumbass because of their age. For example, my mother is so fucking dumb that she couldn't figure out how to remove the keys from the ignition in my car (she has a license, mind you), but she tried to tell me that one of my closest friends who has been working on cars since he was a kid and has customized and repaired all his vehicles himself knows diddly squat about vehicle maintenance because he works in an office and what the hell does HE know about cars?! Because, y'know, there's no way someone who isn't a mechanic could ever know anything about cars!

PizzaRollsAndWeed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:17 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom is a "I'm right you're wrong" kinda person. fUCK i hate it.

chris1231231234 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:01:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yup used to think that then I got a job at 19 as a manager. I had quite a few 40yr+ under me and boy I swear to God they refused to think at times.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:38:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being one of the youngest people at my office has really driven this one home

Solut1on ยท 1560 points ยท Posted at 04:34:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That emperor Nasi Goreng built the Great Wall of China to keep the rabbits out

Glodan ยท 96 points ยท Posted at 07:55:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For those that don't get the reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvlWQyvEI38

sjeffiesjeff ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 11:12:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The real joke here is ADSL.

Imadejust4this ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:28:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

:(

GallantGrape ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:23:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wish. I live in the US and am currently getting 340 Kbs. Our only other option is satellite internet and that is even worse.

Zeus-Is-A-Prick ยท 208 points ยท Posted at 06:53:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is gonna go over a lot of peoples heads

raptorshadow ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 08:19:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's the best part.

lucid-dream ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 12:47:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Went over mine.

ScoobyDoNot ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 13:15:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's from an Australian TV ad.

https://youtu.be/DvlWQyvEI38

Nasi Goreng is an Indonesian food, Australia has built fences in the past to keep rabbits out.

v4vigilius ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 14:18:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

emperor Nasi Goreng built the Great Wall of China to keep the rabbits out

Nasi Goreng literally means fried rice in Indonesia lol

TeamOtter ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:19:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This part I got, I didn't get the Australian reference

clickstation ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:46:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Of all the things they can be worried about, it's rabbits?

oldsecondhand ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:49:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, it's Australia. What should they worry about? Dropbears and venomous spiders?

Rabbits, just like dingos are an invasive species there.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:21:27 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, can't quite remember why but rabbits fucked up our ecosystem.

It was cane toads, rabbits, foxes and locusts from memory.

So we made a big ass wire fence along the length of the bottom half of Western Australia I think? My memory is really foggy. It was to stop the mass migration of them over here.

Literally called the rabbit-proof fence.

It was fairly effective from what I remember.

Google it. The rabbit proof fence and the emu war (in which we lost a war to a heap of emu's) are the funnest Australian stories to tell foreigners. They don't tend to believe us.

LeslieHughesLDP ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 11:37:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

DAE STRAYA?

Imadejust4this ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:28:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

oioioi

ScoobyDoNot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:12:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Aussie!

thedellah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:46:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

yer the boys brah

pjabrony ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:35:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If it went over a lot of people's heads, it wouldn't be very good at keeping the rabbits out.

NZ_NZ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:54:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

the attack of mutant rabbits from outerspace r/nosleep

Benda34 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:53:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hahahha

Not happy Jan!

Randomn355 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:52:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel it went over my head, but the idea of talking food demanding a great Wall be built to stop rabbits nibbling at their leaves is hilarious anyway x)

twosummer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:55:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think going over heads usually means people have access to the knowledge, but don't draw the connection. I have a feeling that I just don't know what the reference is.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:56:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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PM_PICS_OF_ME_NAKED ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:32:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks. I'm from the US, so I don't think it went over people's heads so much as we weren't in on the joke.

420blazearino ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 09:42:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

this ad is best thing to come out of telstra amirite guys

chuckleberrychitchat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:25 on August 30, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Old thread, don't care. I just wanted to say...

yes.

rattus_p_rattus ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 11:35:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Too many rabbits.....in Choina

Source: am Australian

UrgentPineapple ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 08:59:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When that ad came out my family thought it was hilarious. One day we ended up travelling to the Great Wall of China and took a photo of us holding a sign saying "to keep the rabbits out!"

[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 06:19:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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FROYO_ENTHUSIAST ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 06:22:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hahaha this is a quote from a TV advertisement that used to show when I was a kid in Australia

Solut1on ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 06:34:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The TV was my second dad

reallymobilelongname ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:56:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is a version of knifey-spoony in the wild kids.

idsan ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 07:43:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah. Lots of rabbits.. In China.

xbtdev ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:21:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lots of

Too many

Ripcode11 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:59:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

China

Choina

idsan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:41:04 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dangit, you're right. :/

MTness86 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:25:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Made my day. Loved that ad

iamdrizzlybear ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:40:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nazi goreng?

Mnemoceos ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 10:15:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nasi goreng is a SEA dish - fried rice.

iamdrizzlybear ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:31:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm Malaysian actually, this is one of my lacking memes. Haha

Mnemoceos ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 10:36:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your meme game is among your weakest exports

sndrtj ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:43:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Emperor Fried Rice.... Nice!

silence9 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:13:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well I always thought it was because of the god damned mongorians

chop_pork ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:08:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I fkn love that ad!

Cairnsian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:17:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

lol i remember that.

magickittyforeskin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:05:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I see what you did there mate

pasta-mcguffin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:38:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This cunt gets it.

Syncite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:15:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How is fried rice related here?

Solut1on ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:37:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yckqyg75oE Great commercial from last decade

Syncite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh god that was hilarious. Still though, didn't expect fried rice to appear there haha

KingOfTheDoughnuts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:36:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But their no ordinary raddits! they're that most foul, cruel and bad tempered rodents you've ever set eyes on!

OpinionatedOzzie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:28:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hahaha! A whole generation of children learning world history thanks to Telstra.

doihavemakeanewword ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:06:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Aussie?

Solut1on ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:12:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

you know it

Soakitincider ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought it was to keep the Mexicans out.

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:39:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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echjul ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:55:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's a link further up. It was an ad for broadband I think!

Jesse72 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:00:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The 'new' 3G network!

liamsitagem ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:37:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Whut? The emperor Fried Rice built the great wall of China?

skalpelis ยท 12913 points ยท Posted at 23:07:46 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm not done eating until the plate is clear.

ld115 ยท 3624 points ยท Posted at 23:34:14 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I remember dining with this very traditional Italian family. My plate was never empty because they kept giving me more without me saying anything. If that were the rule, I'd still be eating with that family 20 years later.

mydearwatson616 ยท 3875 points ยท Posted at 01:35:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Finishing your plate is a sign that you want more food. If you don't want any more, leave a little bit.

Oh, but don't expect them to stop feeding you quietly. Sometimes it's easier to just keep eating until Meemaw starts falling asleep at the table.

Italian food cooked by an Italian grandmother is so good that nature had to balance the experience by making you deal with an Italian grandmother to eat it.

belle204 ยท 1478 points ยท Posted at 03:27:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is accurate in Egyptian families too. When me and my brothers visit my Auntie we have the strategy of waiting for the perfect moment when everyone's mouth is full to get up with a quick "thanks for the meal". It's so bad that my Auntie takes food off her own plate to give me more

snail-in-the-shell ยท 875 points ยท Posted at 04:34:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Lebanese-American here. Same damn shit. My mom's the best cook of both sides of my family, so it's even worse. I'm living 2,000 miles away from home and my friends make plans with my mom to come over to have dinner on a weekly basis. And leave with enough leftover to tide them over for a few days.

She sends me a box of homecooked food every once in a while, so I'm not missing out on much, though. Bless her heart. My birthday's coming up and she sends me a literal pot of frozen mi3shee warak 3inab (EDIT: as /u/sesasees pointed out it should be ma7shee) as part of my birthday present.

TatianaAlena ยท 211 points ยท Posted at 04:40:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

mi3shee warak 3inab

Do you have a rogue 3 key, or is that a transliteration?

[deleted] ยท 217 points ยท Posted at 04:43:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When writing Arabic with Roman letters, using numbers helps with transliteration.

shredtilldeth ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 04:52:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So...how exactly does one pronounce a rogue 3 in the middle of a word?

Mr-LePresident ยท 100 points ยท Posted at 04:56:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The 3 is used for the "Aayn" sound. It's a sound that comes from the back of the throat. I really can't explain what it sounds like hopefully someone can find a recording.

shredtilldeth ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 05:18:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is that the "hawk a loogie" sound? For lack of a better term.

Lexidoodle ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:58:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No. Different letter. Try to say "aye" with a huge smile and your chin tucked in to your chest. The sound should be coming from the top of the back of your throat.

StuckInaTriangle ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 06:35:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That...feels and sounds kinda retarded when I do it lol

Lexidoodle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:47:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's the only way I could think of to force you to make what would be an unnatural sound to an English speaker. Obviously if you know how to speak Arabic, you wouldn't make the silly face and whatnot.

thebullfrog72 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:24:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Seriously? You didn't just go with German? It's perfect! For Americans too!

ich bin EIN berliner

MrAirRaider ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:08:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't think they're the same sound. The 'Aayn' sound should be coming from your throat, just above your Adams Apple.

theryanmoore ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:07:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lexidoodle ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:14:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not quite but thanks, I'm strangely uncomfortable now...

theryanmoore ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:42:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Watch the whole thing.

Again and again and again. I'm sure that's not helping, but goddamn I love that shit.

/r/contagiouslaughter

gavers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:55:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Czsixteen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:13:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Somebody get her a Baby Ruth stat

matthew7s26 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:50:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nah, the "ayn" is more of a nasal kind of a sound, like you're pulling your tongue back in your throat while saying it.

snail-in-the-shell ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:22:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ehhhh, there's a couple gutteral noises. This one sounds more like an h sound, but there's also a guttural 'kh' and 'gh' sound too.

shredtilldeth ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:24:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm a Death Metal vocalist I totally get what you mean. Seriously.

StuckInaTriangle ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:36:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Anyway, here's Wonderwall..."

shredtilldeth ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 06:39:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's ok. Death Metal is an acquired taste and takes a developed ear to understand the intricacies of that kind of music.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:43:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ugh

shredtilldeth ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 08:08:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And I thought Death Metal seemed caveman sometimes. This guy can't even be bothered with typing real words.

IsaacM42 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:28:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ug

LostMyPasswordNewAcc ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:13:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Uggs

StuckInaTriangle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:47:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lmao wow. Sure chief.

shredtilldeth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:05:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not surprising that you write it off. It's not for everyone. But not even giving it a shot, or at least respect is a true sign of ignorance.

Garglebutts ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:14:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They're not writing off death metal, they're making fun of you for the exasperating notion that death metal is somehow superior music.

shredtilldeth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:43:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't say it was superior I said it was intricate.

ActionScripter9109 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:47:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I think people are ascribing you motivations that aren't there. Your original comment looked enough like an arrogant brag that everyone assumed it was.

shredtilldeth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:05:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's Reddit for you.

Garglebutts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm really sorry for my harsh comment, but some internet metalheads can be pretty obnoxious and argue pop music or pop rock isn't "real music" or something along those lines, so I assumed you were one of those. That's what I get for assuming, I suppose. Again, no offense.

shredtilldeth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:25:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks for the apology.

I don't like those types of people either and I know metal heads have a stereotype for it. Believe it or not, at least amongst the hundreds of metal heads I personally know, those people are the vocal minority.

I try to give credit and respect where it's due. I fucking hate Justin Bieber and don't think he deserves a cent but he's a good singer. I'm often found saying "That band / musician is VERY good at what they do but it's not for me."

Batatata ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, that would be a 5

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:35:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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Zsashas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

10 minutes well spent.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:35:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So it would be '.

TaylorS1986 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:25:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
shredtilldeth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:56:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Interesting. Thanks!

TatianaAlena ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:43:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks for the info.

Randel55 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 09:14:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Estonians also often use numbers when it's not possible to use special characters.

Here are some words written with standard spellings: ร•petaja (teacher), kรคsi (hand), รผks (one), รถรถ (night)

Here are those same words written with internet spellings: 6petaja, k2si, yks, oo/66.

TatianaAlena ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:40:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I used to exchange Christmas cards with someone from Estonia named Kadri. I hope she's doing well now.

Thanks for the info!

belle204 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:15:30 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It took me a second to realise this was Estonian bc as a Finn it just looks like you misspelled everything (Opettaja, kรคsi (the same), yksi, and yรถ)

gavers ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 07:59:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I recently encountered someone trying to use those when transliterating Hebrew, and I was like "wtf are you doing, man?"

I studied Arabic, but since it was in Hebrew we didn't need to add letters to compensate for the Kha and Ain (and Qaf and T'aa) and I never heard of this until a couple of weeks ago.

Bittlegeuss ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 08:49:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can confirm, in Greek when typing in phonetical latin alphabet we use 8 for ฮธ.

nybo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:27:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same thing in chinese for tones as well.

SadGhoster87 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:46:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cyka blyat

AncientSwordRage ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 05:10:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's the ayn letter, it's this bad boy -->ุน

TatianaAlena ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:59:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks for the info!

Koras ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 08:18:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

...would it not make more sense to romanise it as... well... Ayn?

lizarasaurd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:11:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not really, since it's not pronounced "ayn" when in a word.

AncientSwordRage ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:20:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You'd think so, but it's really tricky to pronounce: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayin#Transliteration

phism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:23:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

here's some vlogger giving a lesson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0ro6b50-Lk

rhymeswithvegan ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 05:12:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So...how do I get your mom to send me meals? I grew up near Dearborn. The Lebanese food was so good there. Definitely not as plentiful and tasty on the west coast.

snail-in-the-shell ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:24:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you're in so Cal, there's a ton of good places and some bomb ass ovenries that make all types of flat bread.

bobs_monkey ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:29:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Go on..

snail-in-the-shell ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:37:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cafรฉ Matinee in Lake Forest is a great hole-in-the-wall. I actually know the family who runs it. There's a fuckton of shwarma places like Halal Guys and Zankou's Chicken. Al Amir bakery in Anaheim. Zena's Lebanese Cuisine in Orange is supposed to be bomb af too, but I've never been there.

bobs_monkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:46:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Zankou Chicken is the shit. Thanks for the other recommendations.

snail-in-the-shell ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:50:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also, there's some great Middle Eastern markets too. Mission Ranch in Also Viejo has great produce, all the ME type food you may want, and they have a Persian restaurant attached that does some amazing koobideh, especially their chicken. There's also King Market in Anaheim which is a HUGE Middle Eastern super market, but I like the first one way more.

GirlNextor123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:38:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Born & raised in the Greater Detroit area as well. Had no idea it would be so hard to get good Middle Eastern food once I left.

Vague-Username ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:06:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

On mobile I see "mi3shee warak 3inab" and I became very confused by the language for a moment.

Odinswolf ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 05:38:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's what it says. When writing Arabic in latin script people use numbers to help make sounds.

Vague-Username ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:41:48 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's actually pretty cool. Could you pretend I am five for a moment and spell it out phonetically?

Odinswolf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:58:37 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Unfortunately I don't speak Arabic, I've just seen it written online in a few places (there was discussion around the use of Da3esh for example) But, from my understanding, a 3 generally represents a epiglottal stop or a fricative in a word. I'm not quite sure how that sounds when properly spoken, but you might be able to find examples of spoken Arabic to help. Sorry I couldn't be of more use.

Vague-Username ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:02:15 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know more than I did before! Thank you.

dogfins25 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:24:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My Sitty was like this for the longest time. She was always pushing food on us when we were over and giving us food to take home. As she got older and cooked less and went out to eat more she would call my Dad to see if he wanted to come out to eat after they had already been seated at the restaurant.

DB9PRO ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:50:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pakistanis are the same...

SamBoosa58 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:18:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can vouch for this.

"Oh beta you're done?? No no no here have some more! slides entire bowl of saalan into your plate"

Randomn355 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:45:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Am Chinese, when I go back to Asia I literally just get sat in front of 2 of then old aunties and they out food on my plate ao god damn fast I can barely keep up with eating it.

The bulking DREAM!! Haha

sesasees ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:41:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's "ma7shy" though. And it's the same in Lebanese as it is in Egyptian. The 3 and the 7 are completely different sounds.

snail-in-the-shell ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:57:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're totally right. I'm not entirely fluent in reading/writing. I'll make an edit above.

angrypizzalover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mi3shee is life

SneakyPope ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I want mail order home cooked lebanese food :( tell your mom i will love her forever and that my mom used to microwave frozen vegetables! Im a poor poor mushy vege eating mess!!

poopunicorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:59:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How the fuck do you pronounce the number 3

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Palestinian here. Yeah, same shit. Thank God for my fast metabolism or I would be a fat ass right now.

InitiallyAnAsshole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:32:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Russian/Ukrainian grandparents in Canada. Same shit. Almost always turns into the men getting mad at the women. "Leave the damn boy alone he said he's full!" "Oh alright... WHO WANTS DESSERT?" FUUUUUUUU

gavers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:53:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jewish families too, especially holiday and Sabbath meals. Unless the food runs out, the meal will go on.

HAC522 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:49:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do you ever get paranoid that your friends like your mom more then you. My mom and my friends are a bit the same as what you said.

seals ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:49:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh god! I rented a room from a Lebanese woman during college. I forgot about the delicious food until right now. I really want some delicious dolmas now! And I can't get them ๐Ÿ˜ข

cockulator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:05:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom hasn't cooked for me since I was 13

gingerly_said ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:13:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You guys, I think it's just grandmothers. Wherever you are, grandmothers will feed you until you explode.

Wealthyontheinside ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:29:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your mom sounds awesome

Rand_alThor_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:40:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The same in Turkey. Source, I am an American with a Turkish family (or Turkish-American..)

Every other summer I go visit my family and friends, and get a huge meal at each stop. I essentially eat one meal a day on those days, and yet I still gain 10lbs each of those summers in Turkey. Just try saying no to the food. They are CRUSHED.

meadstriss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:51:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Gosh she sounds like a total jewel of a human being. You're a lucky kid.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:16:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Marrying a Lebanese women here. Spent 3 weeks in liban last summer. Didn't realise that to leave a little bit of food on your plate is ok until my last few days there.Gained like 5 kilos. My god the food though! Luckily for me she's pretty much French so no crazy cooking for the end of the world habits.

hinyancat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:49:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

how do you send frozen food over?

snail-in-the-shell ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:26:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dry ice and overnight shipping.

hinyancat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:09:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

thanks.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:27:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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snail-in-the-shell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:38:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes. Sort of.

There is s whole slew of stuffed dishes. Ma7shee warak 3inab is the stuffed rice and meat in a grape leaf, specifically. There are however, a whole slew of ma7shee dishes, as there are dolma dishes; these tend to be really similar, and reguinal differences change things up a bit. Like stuffed zucchini, eggplant, stuffed grape leaves without meat that's eaten cold, etc.

DirkRight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:53:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How does the food keep well over those 2000 miles of travel?

leroyjonson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:54:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've seen this before, but I'm curious: what do the numbers in the Arabic (?) words denote?

huckler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:09:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also Lebanese - my grandmother does this. She invites me over for dinner and then makes enough cabbage rolls, stuffed chicken, and kibbeh to serve 20. It's wondawful.

gravityapple ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:19:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Married into a Chinese family, I always leave a bit of gai lon and rice.

IndieHamster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:51:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Japanese-American, with most family based in Hawaii. Same thing. I actually feel bad for a lot of my white friends who don't come from a strong "family" culture. A lot of it revolves around food, and shared meals which are both amazing due to the food, and company. Talking to a lot of them in HS, I found out that I was the only one in my group of friends to enjoy that :c

phism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:20:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How does she keep the food from spoiling in transit?

sotx35 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:49:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a southern U.S. resident, 'bless her heart' has a bit of a different meaning than the literal sense.

It is typically said to be a snub of sorts.

Atlfalcons284 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:01:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can someone explain the Arabic number typing? The name of the number makes the same sound as the untranslatable character would??

dudcicle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:01:40 on August 31, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Commenting to acknowledge and show appreciation for a correct usage of "bless her heart"

TheJaples ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:13:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ain't no fucking with that kibbeh bil sayniyye though,

snail-in-the-shell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't get me started, goddamn. I found a decent butcher nearby so I'm making that and kibbeh nayeh on the regular.

Tyr_Tyr ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:38:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just FYI "bless her heart" is pretty much "fuck that bitch" translated to Southern polite. I'm fairly sure that's not what you meant to convey.

snail-in-the-shell ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:40:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Actually, it means a whole ton of stuff, depending on context. I spent a couple years in the Deep South, and I've seen it used a bunch of ways.

sesasees ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:40:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fellow Egyptian here. I'm lucky it doesn't run in my aunts and uncles but I have yelled at other people's grandparents when trying to serve me.

I race them to the sink and open the tap. Untouchable.

jimmy_talent ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:38:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My ex gf is Egyptian, she told me if her mother ever made me dinner I should fast for the whole day first because I wouldn't be allowed to stop eating.

VoliGunner ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:57:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Farmer's wife/rural American great-grandmother is the exact same way.

TheFox51 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:30:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

same shit with mexican families... you are done when grandma says youre done. and shell feed you any time and every time she sees you.

Miguelinileugim ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:53:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait, what?

Auegro ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:34:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

For example: She has an extra piece of meat on her plate

"I'm gonna eat that but you look like you could use it more, look how skinny you are"

pedazzle ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:53:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And if the person is a big guy it's, "you eat this you need it more since you're a growing boy!"...yes, perpetually growing now thanks.

belle204 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:17:34 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yup exactly

BottledApple ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 03:36:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God I'll never forget the time I was touring in Italy with a theatre company and our tour manager invited us to his village to meet the family. I was a tiny, skinny 20 year old girl and had to eat a 7 course meal...during which, the family were anxious about the fact that I couldn't finish any of the courses.

I have NEVER been so uncomfortably full in my life!

BeefSamples ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:38:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In poland, clearing your plate is a sign you want more food but if you don't clear your plate you're wasting food. You eat till grandpa is drunk enough to make you stop or you finally convince grandma that there isn't any more room.

UltimateDracoMeteor ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:49:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

An old Japanese lady that I stayed with recently did this to me quite a lot. I didn't lose weight on that trip. She justified it by saying I have a separate stomach for certain foods.

onyxandcake ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:31:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ukrainian family: if you don't ask for seconds, it means you didn't like it and Baba will start cooking you something different.

witchofrosehall ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:21:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can confirm, Nonna will feed you until you explode but the food is so good, you wouldn't mind it.

QIIIIIN ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:52:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I got blessed with this one. My non Italian grand mother learned how to cook recipes from the old country by my grandpas mom when she married him. I get tasty authentic Italian food with just the criticisms of a normal annoying grandma to go along.

Scottiemcmullet ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:52:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had Easter Sunday with my friends Italian family. I ignored all the warnings. Ended up falling asleep on the couch with the Italian grandparents.

Theige ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:30:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The flip side is being introduced to an Italian family as a teenager in his (my) early teens, growing rapidly...

I fucking LOVED dinner at my soon to be step grandma's family. It was the only time i had an unlimited amount of amazing food shoveled into my face besides thanksgiving and my soon to be step-grandma would become SO happy when i ate 3rd, 4th, and 5th servings of her amazing pasta

spiritbx ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:22:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One ticket to diabetus please!

hansgrubermustdie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:41:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ray Romano had a great bit on that. It was on Dr. Katz

HandsOnGeek ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:58:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In traditional Japanese culture, the food that you want more of is what you leave a bit of on the plate. The food that you are done with, you finish. The act of leaving some acts as the request for more.

quesman1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:14:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Visited my friend and his family in Bulgaria. I wish someone had explained this cultural rule. "If you're full, don't finish the food." I swear, my stomach probably distended permanently because of how many times the generous uncle refilled my plate and cup. Hey, at least it was delicious, though.

UltraChilly ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:54:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have a theory that contrary to popular psychologists beliefs Italian food is actually love materialized. (Sweet edible love with love sauce on top of it)

judgej2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:22:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you don't want any more, leave a little bit.

Surely that's the rule to avoid having to speak to your servants? It's a bit like laying your fork on your plate facing down rather than up (France). If you are on talking terms with whoever is serving, then you indicate that you have had enough. Or was I brought up funny?

humicroav ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:10:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Meemaw? Shouldn't you call your Italian grandmother nonna?

mydearwatson616 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:45:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We actually called her Nanny but I thought that too confusing.

HBStone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:19:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's way too true!

user0621 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:21:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mexican families do this as well.

Hairbrainer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:34:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ray Romano (I know) actually has a really funny stand up bit about this that I can't find

ricottapie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ymmv, but if anyone was a hard enforcer of the clean your plate rule, it was my Scottish dad. My nonna would just wrap it up for us to take home (on top of everything else we were already taking with us) and my mom never made a big deal of it either.

frugalNOTcheap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad grew up dirt poor with 8 siblings and no father. So he hated to see food be thrown away. There was no leaving the table till your plate was clean.

humanysta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:14:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's really stupid.

drdeadringer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Meemaw

What's a meemaw?

mydearwatson616 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's like a see saw but it complains more.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:04:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Alexmira ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:40:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Tell that to my grandma

JDins ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:35:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

wtf is a meemaw?

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:28:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sheldon? Didn't know you were Italian.

ILoveControlWarrior ยท -25 points ยท Posted at 02:41:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sorry, but that is just moronic.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:24:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What is?

vincoug ยท 373 points ยท Posted at 02:21:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's always a weird cultural thing. Some cultures want you to leave food on your plate to signal you're done. Others take it as an insult that the food want good enough to finish.

Jacosion ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 05:45:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How about I eat all the food on my plate. Then if I decide I'm full, and they put more on there without asking, it's their fault.

I'll certainly be sure to tell them "oh no thank you. I'm full." If that offends them oh well. I get sick if I eat too much.

cheekygorilla ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 06:20:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow we have to tell everyone in the world this!

Jacosion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:23:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What do you mean?

kevronwithTechron ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:26:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We should find a cultural that combines the two.

user_82650 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:27:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cultures suck. Screw the lot of them.

meadstriss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:52:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I just put my knife and fork together on my plate. And leave them apart when I'm not done /would please like some seconds.

Making_Enemies ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:31:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah you leave them diagonally so it shows a stop sign on the plate

meadstriss ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 11:49:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If that's your idea of a stop sign, I hope you don't drive :)

Skjalm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same hear.

Skjalm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:34:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We got into troubles, if we did not eat all the food on the plate. Because itยดs a waste of food.

Letty_Whiterock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some places it's rude to eat all of it since it implies it didn't satisfy you.

It's fucking dumb.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:31:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

*wasn't

GatorGladiator ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:51:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Then of course, in MURICA they don't really care how much is left on your plate unless it's a fancy restaurant. Everyone gorges themselves so much at buffets that they assume that when you're full is when you're done, no matter what is left. As for home cooked meals, you're expected to finish your plate, whether or not you like or dislike something on it. You may only have as many seconds as the host allows, and sometimes you have to wait for everyone to have eaten before you can. You're able to stop if you're full as long as you aren't a guest, but if you just leave the stuff you're known not to like, that shit won't fly.

Jesus, American food politics are almost as shitty and confusing as American politics politics.

blipcard ยท 369 points ยท Posted at 00:49:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Me too! My parents keep on putting food in my plate even if I am already finished eating. If I protest or refuse, they will guilt-trip me saying that parents only want to see their child full, that they work their ass off to feed me, etc -.-

Qaeta ยท 836 points ยท Posted at 01:08:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

should have just been like "You could work a little less if you would STOP BULLDOZING FOOD INTO MY FACE!!!"

Jacosion ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:42:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That mental image.

ShadowMessiah333 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:50:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Y'know, I was thinking about using those lines on my frankly picky daughter but you just ruined that idea for me.

GiverOfTheKarma ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 05:26:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just threaten her with gratuitous violence! It works!

Source: I do not have a child.

SadGhoster87 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:49:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Without that source I'd have assumed you were my dad

ShadowMessiah333 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

See, there are two types of parents...

ShadowMessiah333 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Here's the thing, I do that all the time and her immediate response each time is to twist my arm and pull it up behind my back. I almost regret wrestling and fighting with her all the time when she was younger.

And let me just be clear before people start making assumptions, she is a VERY well behaved child (literally everyone who has ever watched her "can't get over how well behaved she is!!), but she's come to learn that me threatening to tear her arms off and slap her around with them is an invitation to put me in my place for making such tasteless jokes.

[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 07:07:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Antice ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:59:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There are also tastes that aren't detectable by everyone.
The entire brassica family are known for this.
For some people, these plants have a terribly unpleasant smell and taste. So unpleasant, that even hiding it in highly seasoned meatballs won't prevent detection.

DigitalMariner ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:38:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Plus we're also working on identifying any food intolerances, kids are surprisingly good at figuring out foods that make them sick without being able to explain why they won't eat them.

This is how we found out my son was allergic to peanuts. He was the most adventurous eater I'd ever seen, loved visiting sample tables at the market no matter what it was. The only thing he refused was peanut butter. He could sense the tiniest amount in a food, one time detecting some accidental PB in a cookie that was just supposed to be only choc chip. When we told that story at the allergist when we were trying to figure out some random hives/swelling he was getting, she said sometimes kids know so let's test peanuts too. I never saw human skin swell and change color as fast as the spot on his back did during that skin test. Apparently his body knew he was allergic all along and protected him by being so adverse to it.

Qaeta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:42:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's pretty much always texture for me. The only food I can think of not liking based on taste and smell is seafood, but I generally ALSO don't like the texture of that either.

Qaeta ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 12:40:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Her: "I don't want to eat this."

You: "I just want to see you full! I work my ass off to feed you!"

Her: "You could work a little less if you would STOP BULLDOZING FOOD INTO MY FACE!!!"

You: "Daughter, I am NOT a bulldozer person so I don't know."

Her: "Can you just stop trying to make me eat this?"

You: "I don't know what that is!"

Her: "Okay, there is this food, and I want you to stop trying to force feed me it."

You: "DAUGHTER, I ALREADY TOLD YOU THAT I AM NOT A BULLDOZER PERSON, YOU'RE REFUSING TO EAT SO I'M GOING TO WALK AWAY"

Problem solved? :P

SadGhoster87 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:49:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What?

scyth3s ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:31:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As an insanely picky eater, I know the feels. It makes life harder on everyone else. Take comfort in the fact that if we could just make ourselves like all food, we would.

Cobbleking32486 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:09 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The most annoying thing I've ever experienced is when they say "You're missing out on so much!" I know, don't remind me.

scyth3s ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:49 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah we just enjoy having a difficult time finding food we like and making things harder on ourselves and everyone /s

AccountWasFound ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:52:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same. I'd love to enjoy eating salads, but basically all veggies make me gag....

scyth3s ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:38:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hate virtually all sauces, every meat but chicken/turkey, am super picky with fruit... It's a struggle man, and other folks really just don't get it.

I won't pick restaurants to go to because I try not to limit everyone else to my pallet (palate?). I'm glad-ish to know I'm not alone.

AccountWasFound ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:24:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I will only eat certain types of bread, like 3 fruits, I don't like nuts (not at all allergic, just dont like them), will not eat veal, sheep, goat, or deer (those are a choice because I think that they are either cute, or inhumane), don't like turkey, but I love beef, pork and chicken (but not any near with bones in it) it's getting better though, I like food with garlic in it, and will eat peanut sauce on chicken skewers....

OffendedPotato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:44 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

how is it less humane to eat veal/sheep/goat/deer than cow, chicken and pig?

AccountWasFound ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:27 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The only one I don't eat for humane reasons is veal, and that is because it is a baby cow, the others I don't eat because I think they are cute, so the thought of eating them makes me nauseous.

OffendedPotato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:43:31 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

yeah okay i agree with you on that one, i don't eat veal either. I personally think all animals are cute but not cute enough to not eat. sheep is actually delicious though, would recommend.

themcp ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:25:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My German grandmother used to simply say "Eat! Eat! It puts meat on your bones!"

My mother used to stuff me until I puked, 3 meals a day. (This was apparently because I was skinny, not a butterball German child. Perhaps if she didn't feed me so much that I always puked it up, I might have put on some weight.) This went on for about 3 years, until I puked on the thanksgiving dinner table and ran out of the room screaming in horror, and my paternal grandmother (who was present for a meal for a change) pitched a huge fit at my mother about it. I don't really remember what was said, but I remember hearing her from the other room shouting at my mother, and it ended up with my mother in tears and my grandparents leaving early (very angry), and after that she seemed afraid to overfeed me, much to my relief.

My paternal grandmother could be a little mean, but she was a lioness if she thought anyone was ever harming any of her grandchildren!

asshair ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:34:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Damn.... your mother sounds mentally ill

themcp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She is, Quite severely so.

asshair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How ya dealing with that?

themcp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:42:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's ancient history.

I'm more upset that I'm having some heart problems lately, and she was a cardiac intensive care nurse, she'd be the ideal person for me to talk to, and she's the one person on earth I can't talk to.

asshair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can talk to me my mom is a doctor :P

themcp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:06 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have a whole team of doctors at possibly the best hospital in the world to talk to.

Master_xk ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:03:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, they are feeding you 'cause they want to eat you!! give me your food and run away.

AgentSoup ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:24:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Did either or both of your parents grow up in low-income families? There's a trend among people who come from little or nothing to not want their children to deal with the hunger pains they felt now that they can afford to keep a stocked kitchen and/or pantry. There's good intentions, just bad dietary habits.

blipcard ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:54:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well they were pretty much middle-class all their life. But now that you mention it, I completely understand if that was their motivation.

LysandersTreason ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:51:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i'll never understand that mentality. Like jesus what's wrong with teaching kids portion control?

Rando_gabby ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:21:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I went to a restaurant in America and they just kept giving us more drink and appetizers and...it was amazing but my mom went back to the hotel feeling sick

In Canada, if you get a drink you paid for you're not getting a refill without a charge. You can have all the water you want but that soda costs extra.

So we didn't want to waste anything!

You American's are nuts!

conduit122 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:32:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I DON'T NEED ANYMORE FOOD THANKS I HAD ENOUGH

user0621 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:23:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think it has something to do with the parents growing up poor or with scarcity. I know that's how it was in my family.

SadGhoster87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

parents only want to see their child full

"Well you certainly seem to not care about it now"

Montem_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jews do both.

[deleted] ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 03:38:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had dinner with my Italian friend and his wife. It was mid afternoon so I didn't realise I was having dinner. He asked if I wanted a sandwich, as I hadn't had lunch, of course I did. As I was finishing the sandwich he started cooking...and that's the story of how I had a 10 course meal.

onyxandcake ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:33:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This happened to us when visiting Sikh friends. They laid all this food out, so we ate our fill, and then they told us dinner would be ready soon.

Edit: the most embarrassing part of that visit was when they told us that they had made everything mild for us, but tears of pain were streaming down our faces and all the while their 2 year old toddler was casually eating the same food.

HypersonicHarpist ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 03:04:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's a Chinese custom that says that if the someone clears their plate completely it means you didn't give them enough to eat. The polite thing to do if you are done is leave a small clump of food on the plate so they know you aren't hungry anymore and they will stop feeding you. My roommate's parents came from China to visit us and I didn't know about this and was following the "don't waste food, clear your plate" rule.

I gave in first, I was stuffed.

dragoneye ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:52:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am constantly annoyed at how much wasted food there is when I have trips to China. It took me a couple meals the first time before I had the confidence to just say, "No, I couldn't possibly eat more."

I still don't like the dig in to communal plates with your chopsticks thing, but I am able to put up with it now. Doesn't help that, while my chopstick skills are good for a white guy, I still fumble with a lot of food.

Ran4 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:09:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I still don't like the dig in to communal plates with your chopsticks thing

At least in Beijing, there's communal chopsticks/utensils to move the food to your plate.

bontem ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:13:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

In my parents house the rules are clear. Butler comes two times. Starter, main, and dessert each make a first appearance around the table. Butler comes back to check meal status, and if anyone wants a repeat, we discreetly gesture with the hand ( a bit like at an auction house). There is no round three. And if there is chocolate mousse for desert, you are allowed to raise both arms in hails of joy to signal the butler for seconds. Edit: mousse spelled mouse. No one wants chocolate mouse

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:45:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's the same way in the South, they just keep putting more on there and I feel obligated to eat it. Also, you can never go to someone's house without them offering you food, even if it's not a typical meal time. Friends over at 3 in the afternoon? Make them a sandwich. Family stops by after dinner? Offer them some of your dinner. Repairman comes to fix your Air Conditioner? There's chicken in the fridge. No wonder the yankees think we're all fat.

SD__ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:16:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hate that. Give me a full plate. No appetite. Put more food on my plate while I'm eating and I will never forgive you.

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It's not like they're not informed prior. I don't spring it on people. It's reasonable, like being vegetarian and so forth.

gjon89 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:14:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My girlfriend's family is italian, and if I finished my plate they would always ask if I wanted seconds, but yeah, they clean their plates completely with pieces of bread.

jennydancingaway ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:27:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I remember the same in a traditional italian family dinner i went to i ate the soup and pasta and was full and was told six more courses were coming. My aunt glared at me and i wanted to cry.

angryherbivore ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:52:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My husband's Chinese family does this. I'm white, and grew up with the "finish your plate, especially when you're a guest" rule. My husband refers to this as the cold war of our cultures: they keep filling my plate to show that they are good hosts, I keep eating it all to show that I am a good guest. It can go on for hours. At last they think I am a good eater...

ermergerdberbles ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:35:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cheat codes to use when having dinner with an Italian family:

Second full plate = "Just a little more please."

Half a plate more = "I'm full, I couldn't eat any more."

No second serving = Kill Nona before it's to late.

IAmA_TheOneWhoKnocks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:56:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When visiting a very traditional Chinese family, I just kept cleaning my plate and more plates just kept coming out! I couldn't understand because everyone else didn't even finish one plate, how could they expect me to eat 4? 3.5 plates later I just couldn't do it anymore. Had to pass on the mooncakes :(

LogicsAndVR ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:43:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Had that problem in China once. Came with a ~0,5L pithcer of really expensive alcohol (~50%) so share around the table. Only one other person drank it, besides me, so I figured we should try and finish it, as to not let it go to waste. Well, the other guy instantly ordered another filling. Got quite drunk that day.

Respective ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You made me think of this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSLPEwvVvN0

frost_biten ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

On the bright side, Nona's cooking is always ballin

haloryder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:50:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Whoo boy I'm stuffed than-"

starts putting more on your plate

"No no no ma I'm really-"

"No you hungry boy, eat eat!"

fills plate with food

"Aaahhhhhh crap" [to self]

eats a little to be polite

dancingbanana123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:47:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've always loved how my Italian family treats food. People get so finicky with food, but my family just treats eating as an activity. The food doesn't have to be good as long as everyone is having fun.

KingJaredoftheLand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:14:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ditto when I was staying with a friend's family in Iran. I was normal for me to be there for up to half an hour after everyone had left, still eating.

aranciokov ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:39:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Italian here, can confirm. My grandma would not and could not even understand why I refused something because I was completely done. And it still happens.

Jubjub0527 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:47:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

THat was the problem in my house. Big Italian meals but the clear your plate mentality.

Ihateallgigginox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:23:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lol, when my mum (English) met my dad's (Lebanese) family, my grandmother did that. She was adamant that she was the guest and she needed to eat the food. She tried to do the same with my sisters and I when we were babies. Funny stuff.

AccountWasFound ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:50:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family describes my (Jewish) great grandmother by saying that she couldn't cook, but she'd always make sure your plate didn't have any empty spots. I wish I'd met her, she seems nice from the stories.

danwroy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:51:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just YELL AT EM

moneymark21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:38:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"You don't eat!" god damn people I ate 3 meatballs before any of you sat down, then a pound of pasta and another meatball or two and sone sausage.... oh and I'm 10.

Thank god played soccer and was an active kid.

festerf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

my cousins grandma does this, and then complains that he eats too much

AwkwardNoah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Am Italian Can confirm, well at least when we all get to together for like Christmas or Thanksgiving

liquor_for_breakfast ยท 10680 points ยท Posted at 23:14:00 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"The meal isn't over when I'm full... it's over when I hate myself"
-Louis C.K.

CountCrispin ยท 1858 points ยท Posted at 00:59:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Username checks out

paulwhite959 ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 03:25:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I laughed. Then I cried when I realized I've gone through most of a bottle tongiht

stuffedcrustforme ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:13:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You okay buddy?

paulwhite959 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 04:18:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

yeah just achy--I've got arthritis and some days it just fucking hurts and a few (or a dozen) drinks helps. But the "liquor for breakfast" user name made it seem relevant.

stuffedcrustforme ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:21:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sorry to hear that, I hope you find a way to ease your pain.

paulwhite959 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 04:24:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have! I have an Rx for tramadol (I'm allergic to actual codiene, so that limits pain meds) but it just doesn't do much. If Texas legalizes pot, I fully plan to at least try it.

but for now, on rainy days, take 7-10 shots of 90 proof as needed

doodly-doo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:34:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

If you're worried about testing positive for THC for a work drug test or just dont like to be high, you should look into CBD. It is a naturally-occurring cannabinoid extracted from marijuana that can be added to tinctures, creams, etc. It works in a similar way to THC (anticonvulsant, anti-inflammatory, immunity effects, etc.) but it does not get you high! It's often used to treat epilepsy in children and cancer symptoms or arthritis in patients who desire alternative medication but dont necessarily want to be high. As a cannabinoid found in marijuana, it's technically still schedule 1, but it is never tested for because drug tests for weed rely on detecting THC metabolites. THC is the true "drug" cannabinoid because it gets you high, that's why it's illegal. But since CBD can be cultivated from hemp plants (which are legal to grow because they produce no THC), it is viewed as a botanical or herbal product and you can buy/ship it legally.

PrincessIceheart ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:23:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cutting carbs has been shown to reduce inflammation.

My wife has Lupus and Ankylosing Spondylitis, both of which are autoimmune diseases, as well as chronic and progressive inflammatory processes.

We eat ketogenic diet to reduce her pain and inflammation. As an added bonus we each have lost 40-50 lbs. She went from 175 to 121 and I went from 175 to around 130ish. She is also off all of the narcotics she was taking. She was using the highest dosage butranz patch weekly. Now she only takes Celebrex and Her weekly Enbrel injection.

If you're interested, check out /r/keto.

EightInfiniteWays ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:59:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

why is this downvoted

PrincessIceheart ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:24:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster must not have like me trying to recruit.

No biggie though. I was honestly just trying to offer an alternative to toxic narcotics and alcohol. I wasn't trying to sell anything or initiate anyone into a cult. To each his own.

tbz709 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:00:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Probably some right wing ideologist who hates hippies.

Donkyrapingshiteatr ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:23:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Have you tried curcumin or turmeric? I know people with arthritis who swear by it. It's a potent anti-inflammatory with other benefits as well and it has to be better for you than rx drugs.

REDDITATO_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:42:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

it has to be better for you than rx drugs

Dangerous logic right there.

Lokmann ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:04:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When you do try marijuana infused butter and just use it as a lotion on the problem areas it works wonders for my dealer who has arthritis.

Utaneus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:48:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hope you find a way to ease your pain.

He just told you a few (or a dozen) drinks helps.

AxeellYoung ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 10:18:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

OP was referring to pain of the life he has. Not the arthritis caused pain.

Pain that comes from sitting at home getting intoxicated so you don't feel the pain. Day in and day out with the same struggle. Getting a dozen drinks doesn't stop that pain.

drianA ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:21:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've heard but haven't confirmed that cutting out dairy helps your body to start healing your joints. I've been meaning to look into it and see if maybe that helps me.

paulwhite959 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:24:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

tried it for a good 3 months, did shit except make me miss cheese.

whatsausername90 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:19:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

With that username, they should be quoting Bojack.

Cyberfit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:51:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds more like Doug Stanhope tbh.

flyingcircusdog ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 05:09:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Buffets are not a meal, they are a challenge.

One_Day_I_Will_Stop ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:21:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Then I never get to eat.

Brawldud ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:01:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

it makes sense if you consider that food provides a temporary respite of happiness in a world of sadness.

GrumpingIt ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:36:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The meal is over before I even start eating. :)

746865626c617a ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:08:06 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Aaand.. that's how you get eating disorders

GobbleBlabby ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 00:58:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's Louis CK? I always thought it was Jim Gaffigan.

iwantathink ยท 108 points ยท Posted at 02:59:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Gaffigan has similar jokes. Like, "have you ever eaten so much you feel sick? Isn't that the best?"

[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:37:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I could hear your posts voice go up three octaves as it goes on

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:43:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Both have like the exact same cinnabon joke

iwantathink ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:28:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"What's that smell?... Did I just get a cavity?"

Bouzal ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:08:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Makes you feel like a real American

TheChampionOfTheSun ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:21:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So, similar but less funny

SoldierHawk ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:00:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

...or more funny? Because humor is subjective?

OuroborosSC2 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:27:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's the same joke, but CK approaches it glass half empty while Gaffigan sees it glass half full. It just depends on what you prefer in your comedy. Personally, I'm glass is at half capacity so both styles tickle me pink. I like how people will try and tell you you're wrong...

itsglandular ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 04:20:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nope, less funny.

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:22:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You need to watch Jim Gaffigan's specials, because he is hilarious.

SoldierHawk ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:26:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Indeed he is. One of my favorites.

LoneberryMC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I saw him live a few weeks back, absolutely fantastic.

SoldierHawk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh man. I bet it's even better live.

You've read his book, right?

LoneberryMC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Which one? I own his second one but I've not yet read it.

SoldierHawk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh! I mean "Dad is Fat"

TheChampionOfTheSun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:26:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I actually do like Jim Gaffigan and I've seen his specials. But I think Louis is funnier and in that case more clever in his approach. To each his own, I was drunk redditing and being a dick

TheChampionOfTheSun ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:26:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I actually do like Jim Gaffigan and I've seen his specials. But I think Louis is funnier and in that case more clever in his approach. To each his own, I was drunk redditing and being a dick

SoldierHawk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:26:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

...and nope, I actually prefer it.

Almost like humor is subjective and saying "nope" has no bearing on that....hmm.

Rocky87109 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:13:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It would probably be more funny to you if you heard it from his voice. That's like a large percentage of what makes him funny.

Karmago ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Chip chop chop!"

pburydoughgirl ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:46:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
csoup1414 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:18:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I did too, but now I have a feeling Louis CK used that one too.

Csquared211 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Unhealthy Father" on his Live at Carnegie Hall album.

RudyChicken ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:02:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom always makes way too much food. She grew up with like 8 sisters and she raised 4 kids before she had me late. Big meals is just her default setting. On top of that, my dad never learned how to eat properly. He doesn't give one fuck about nutrition or portion size. Whenever I'm with them I always have to eat the left overs or my dad will.

kayelledubya ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:13:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I just met with a dietician for the first time yesterday and quoted this to her and she was laughing so hard she cried! I guess she'd never heard it lol

Etiennera ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:05:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is pretty much my motto since I've started bulking.

Brawldud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

by that rubric I'm just going to starve.

ipdar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pft, that just mean you haven't eaten enough to know what that really feels like.

Brawldud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No but I definitely do this with soda.

Sometimes I get another can of soda even though I don't even want it.

TheKeyisLion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:14:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Greatest quote I've heard so far.

allseed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:51:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I quote this frequently :D

Vomath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:34:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My motto, much to my own detriment.

barktreep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:49:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like a good diet.

Minusguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:53:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I love this quote so much, I can't even. Louis CK is an amazing comedian, because he's not even joking.

Flyby4702 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:31:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Every shit is an emergency

Loken89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:35:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Louis C. K. Is like xkcd, there's always a relevant quote

thestrangeloop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:49:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I love how reddit loves Louie!

rattus_p_rattus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:39:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lol quote this on a daily basis

DaUrn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:23:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So thats why I'm so skinny...

Vio_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:39:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was at a family getogether with my uncle in the town he grew up in. Steak was like $6 a pound for July 4th. He bought so much steak, because it was like a third where he lives now (N. California). We ate steak like three days in a row. That first day, we're eating and eating and eating. He finally looks down, and was like "I don't know if I can keep eating."

I finally told him "You have to stop before it's no longer fun."

wanderlust029 ยท 1320 points ยท Posted at 01:53:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think my parents had a really good system for this. When each of us kids reached an appropriate age, we were to serve ourselves, and had to clear our plates. We quickly learned how to portion meals appropriate to our individual sizes and appetites.

notsostandardtoaster ยท 407 points ยท Posted at 04:53:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i've been serving myself my own food for over ten years and i still can't seem to get the portion sizes right :(

pnoozi ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 05:11:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

me too, I'm always going to take more than I can eat because I'm trying to gainit and in the time you go back for seconds, your stomach has already told your brain you're full.

liftstropical ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 06:07:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eyeball it.

Trying to gainit for so long, I've figured out how much I can eat before even sitting down. If I don't meet my macros, protein shakes work.

Just eat til you're pleasantly full. And eat more frequently like 37 meals in a day.

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:40:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Upvoted this for 37.

ER_nesto ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:11:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I do everything by numbers.

Hmm, think I'll have 112g of pasta, and that can of chili, that should do

I feel like 140g today, haven't really done much to make me hungry

Aerroon ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 08:12:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait, wait, your stomach/body tells you when you're full in a timely manner? I only feel whether I'm full or not an hour or two after I've eaten.

juel1979 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty much the same here. I need to get back to eating by a clock again. I've also found intermittent fasting helps a lot. Then I know what actual hunger feels like over the boredom snacking I tend to do.

themw2guyyouknow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:12:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Problem with intermittent fasting is I feel a lot hungrier, and become full a lot harder, so I eat way too much.

ThatGodCat ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:07:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Try eating lighter high cal foods? Use more full fat shit, some avocado, olive oil, goat cheese, shit like that. If you're eating super high protein at a surplus you're gonna be suffering, increase your healthy fats to make it a little easier on you.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cut the carbs, too. Fat triggers satiety faster than carbohydrates.

DelayedEntry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:00 on August 30, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So why cut the carbs?

Randomn355 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:47:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Liquid calories my friend. Instant oats, protein, milk, fruit. That's 800 odd calories in a shake already and pretty clean, well balanced calories.

Rotom-W ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:11:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't go for 2nds untill you have given about 50 min from eating

It takes like that long for you to feel that full sensation.

DarkJarris ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:47:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to portion control effectively:

  1. Figure out how much you want.
  2. Wrong.
Herculefreezystar ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:09:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have that issue really bad with chili. What do you mean this huge ass bowl is to big? And then 45 minutes later im so full I need a wheelbarrow and I have to shit so bad I might pass out.

Aerroon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Doesn't this lead to insane stomach aches after a few hours?

Herculefreezystar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:19:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Its all worth it for the Chili.

ShadowSlayer74 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:29:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've been at it for 20 and still eat too much all the time.

DontBotherIDontKnow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:18:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Try eating on a smaller plate. Instead of the standard 8" or larger dinner plate use a 4" salad plate. It helped me a lot. Most of the time I don't want seconds but if I still want them because the meal was so good it's still not as much food as I would have ended up eating with a regular plate. Worth a try.

juel1979 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep. I think satiety is skewed in my family. My uncle inhaled food without tasting it. My dad wolfs food. My brother and I both are snacky. His oldest loves food, but has been taught to try to regulate since he plays sports. I probably get looks for how little I push my kid to eat, but I'll be damned if she grows up to think she has to roll away from the table to be considered finished with a meal.

Canrex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:07:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I eat the same amount no matter how hungry I am, it kind of sucks.

sizko_89 ยท -14 points ยท Posted at 07:20:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fatty.

StarlitEscapades ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 05:23:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Take all you want, but eat all you take."

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:45:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I slaved in the kitchen for days for you people!

Csquared211 ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 03:35:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I agree with this and it's how my husband and I eat and how we're raising our kids - correct portion sizes. Plate is always cleared, no overeating.

UmphreysMcGee ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:07:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Letting your kids take as much food as they please is a good way to teach portion control? I'm going to go ahead and disagree with you there...

kalechipsyes ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 06:35:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As long as you aren't having marshmallows for dinner, this is absolutely a good way to teach portion control. Good food is filling food. If your food is unhealthy, then the chef is the problem.

Edit: or, the kid is eating their feelings, in which case the chef/parent is probably still the problem. Kids naturally stop when they are full. It is later training that gets people to ignore signs of fullness.

Wayward-Soul ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 07:09:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

After a few weeks it'll even out. That massive amount of Mac & cheese looks awesome now but when you have to eat ALL of it and the rest of your food, it won't be as awesome. And if it doesn't work well for your kiddos you can always change it.

UmphreysMcGee ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 10:50:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You've clearly never raised any kids, so let me guess...first year psychology student?

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 11:47:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Im a parent of 4. Im on the same page as that person. Good food is filling. All of my kids ages 1-15 eat peppers, onions, broccoli, mushrooms, steak, chicken, fish, etc with zero fuss. The ONLY time I hear any whining is if I accide tally get any sort of dauce on thr 8 year olds food... he wont eat ketchup, mustard, etc without a fuss. We give our kids different portions based on each kids appetite and age, and the kids generally eat all of what theyre given and rarely does anything go unfinished as well as rarely do they need or ask for seconds unless I skimped on someone's portion.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:36:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, we have pur kids "do their best" to clear their plates, but each kid has a portion size appropriate for that kid and what we know their appetite to generally be.

kalechipsyes ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:34:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My husband grew up as the "maid" of the family - complete parentification. He would cook dinners and "make plates" for everyone, literally serve everyone wherever they sat, and then and only then eat, himself (though, he might set about cleaning everything up before he ever got to it).

While that is sad, and I certainly pitied him, he would absolutely not let go of this mentality even a decade later. He was constantly trying to make me plates. But, he was terrible at food portioning, among other things.

I know it might seem like I should just have been grateful, but you try living with Stepford Husband. He would then turn like a Borderline, too, at the slightest provocation. It's not fun to be intermittently infantalized and villainized.

AnticitizenPrime ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:56:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We also had a good system in my household... we stopped eating when the food ran out. Which was reasonably quickly because my mother cooked for four kids, not fourteen.

If anyone was still hungry, there were snacks and shit. But none of this 'constantly shoveling food toward eaters' bulllshit.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:38:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was raised by a woman who grew up on a farm with 5 six-feet-plus brothers. I was taught to pile food as high as I could finish, because if I came back for seconds it wouldn't be there.

Alonewarrior ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:59:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's how I've been used to it most of my life. We serve our own food so everyone can take what and how much they want rather than ending up leaving leftovers on the plate.

rockoman100 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:32:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I just always take or ask for a little at a time.

UmphreysMcGee ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:06:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I don't understand how this could possibly work in most families. My kids would just ignore the vegetables and load up on meat and carbs. And what about when we have pizza night? Most kids don't have the willpower to not over serve themselves when it's a food they love. Full or not, they'll find room for another slice or three.

Did your parents give you free reigns to serve yourselves as much desert as you wanted too?

The_Last_Leviathan ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 10:46:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not OP, but I'll answer too.

I had no problem with most vegetables my parents/grandparents made. If I genuinely didn't like something then they wouldn't force me to eat it (like cauliflower for example), but it was a rule to try everything at least once. Most kids I know had similar rules and no problem eating vegetables. Often times my mom would also serve our plates (like put how much of it we wanted on the plates) and start with the vegetables and encourage us to take more, though that was never really necessary with me and my sister. My brother needed a bit more motivation, but the parent is still there to intervene.

Dessert was never really a thing at my house aside from holidays. I still to this day am not big on dessert, I'd rather have more of the meal and then eat something sweet as a snack later. You don't have to server dessert with every meal, it's actually not common where I live unless you have guests or are at a restaurant.

UmphreysMcGee ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 10:58:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have three kids. We let them have desert maybe once a week, so it's hardly an every night thing, but I can assure you that if I gave my 8 year old son the spoon and said "eat as much as you feel like" he's not going to stop after one scoop and say "You know Dad, I believe I'm satisfied and would prefer not to eat anymore ice cream tonight. If I get hungry later do you mind if I help myself to some asparagus?"

But that's because I have real children and not perfect imaginary ones.

kalechipsyes ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 06:41:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, the parent is still in the room and can tell if a kid is shoveling down five pizza slices at a time, and intervene appropriately. Most kids who have been taught basic manners, morals (sharing, etc.), and healthy habits are likely to be fine.

Plus, you eat five slices at a time, you get sick, and you learn.

It's unhealthy, unhappy adults who are more likely to continue to ignore that limit (to be clear, I count myself among these often enough these days).

weeladybug ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 10:08:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eating veggies with every meal was just the norm when I was growing up, and I never disliked them at all. I feel so much of what we think children feel about food is because we have expectations of how they will feel about food and it passes onto them. Same with dessert- why would most children keep eating and eating dessert to the point of discomfort if they've been taught right from a very young age to serve themselves food, eat till they feel full, and then stop? Forming healthy habits with food does not have to be as difficult as some people make out!

The_Last_Leviathan ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:48:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also, dessert is not necessary, just sayin. I grew up without having it after every meal, it was a holidays or special occasions thing for me. Where I live it's not common to serve dessert at home unless someone is coming over for dinner or at a restaurant.

UmphreysMcGee ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 10:12:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You think kids preferring pizza ice cream over broccoli is based purely on adults somehow channeling their expectations onto kids?

Lol, ok.

weeladybug ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:42:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Never said that, nor do I agree with it.

I think the idea that children can't enjoy healthy food as part of their diet, rather than look at it as just a 'necessary' thing, is something projected by adults.

HALLELUJAH1 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:28:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not but if you dont raise your kids on pizza and ice cream and on healthy food instead they will form much better habits. ..

UmphreysMcGee ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:51:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You don't think kids should get to eat pizza and ice cream on occasion?

zacker150 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:57:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's almost as if kids will eat vegetables if they've been cooked properly.

bvandermei ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:17:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What would you say is an appropriate age to start this?

Mariomaster2015 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:35:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

IMO, around 9, but the exact time differs from child to child.

ROKMWI ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:58:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought that was the whole point of having to clear your plate - only take what you eat, don't waste food. I mean you can't ask someone to clear their plate if someone else served them...

Boye ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yup, our rule was, if we put it on our plate or had any say in portion size, we had to clearthe paste, if it was a portion we got (like at a restsursnt) we didn't.

Also we had to try at least a spoonful of new things.

DokterSpaceman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here, and if we didn't finish it all, my dad would say "your eyes are bigger than your stomach".

Bethkulele ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:48:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is the best way to do it

Nighthunter007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:18:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you served yourself, you finish up. If you didn't serve yourself, you could say you're full.

kozmicbleu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:29:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We were always told "Take what you want, but eat what you take." You made damn sure your eyes weren't bigger than your stomach.

eulerup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:51:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep, the rule in our house was if you served yourself you had to eat it all, but if someone else served you, you could leave food on the plate.

bsukenyan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:36:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly this. I grew up with "take all you want, but eat all you take."

PriusesAreGay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's a lot more fair I reckon. Infinitely better than just throwing some large portion of something on their plate regardless of their appetite for it

ChromeLynx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Help ourselves was the standard. And while I do clear my plate, I don't think I picked that up because I was taught that, but more out of a sense of perfectionism. Out at home, it's fine to help yourself, discover that your eyes were bigger than your stomach several bites in and then leave some of your dinner. It's just not how I roll.

Fitzwoppit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:32:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We let our kids stop when they were full, but the plate of leftovers was covered and put in the fridge. If they got hungry before the next meal they could have that.

c_dawg7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We had a similar rule. Anything you take yourself you have to finish but if you're given it you don't need to.

-Alec- ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:34:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"We quickly learned how to portion meals appropriate to our individual sizes and appetites." What a fancy way to say "we learned to put less on our plates"

neernitt ยท 955 points ยท Posted at 01:22:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm very careful of this one with my partner's son too. I've altered the rule to: you are done eating once you finish your vegetables. Anything else is optional.

[deleted] ยท 656 points ยท Posted at 01:49:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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themcp ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 05:36:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was a kid I couldn't stand any vegetables. I dutifully tried them and found them all to be revolting. I learned that when my mother promised "just try one bite, and you don't have to eat the rest if you don't want it," that meant "I'm lying to you, and after you are completely disgusted by this food, I'm going to make you eat a huge serving of it anyway because I'm a sadist."

I learned later in life that I needed two things to happen: I needed my taste buds to change (which happened when I was 27), and I needed my vegetables to be properly prepared, not just cooked to death like my family prefer. I discovered broccoli on the side of a dish at Mary Chung, in Cambridge MA, and I've loved it ever since.

Once I got those things, I eat my vegetables first because I love them. I have to pace myself and eat them more slowly so I have room for other things and so I don't run out of vegetables before the end of the meal.

I think I'll go cook some vegetables now... now I've got a craving.

Ristake ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 04:16:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How about we just combine the two?

  • Crab, shrimp and cream cheese stuffed mushrooms.
  • Cream cheese jalapeรฑo poppers.
  • Double baked stuffed potatoes.
  • Steamed broccoli with cheese sauce.
veggietrooper ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:43:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I'm 29 and I'm still one of those people who has to take great pains not to lose weight. I would love to eat veggies first but I can't afford to.

The_Old_Regime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:09:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wanna swap places? I could stand to lose some

veggietrooper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lol!

CourageousCauliflowr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:29 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

salads with lots of nuts, avocado, and oil have tons of calories.

veggietrooper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:35 on January 11, 2017 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks.

Snugglor ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:16:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Me too!

Veggies first, then the meat/protein part, and then the carb part (potatoes/rice/whatever). It's been instilled in me from childhood that veggies had to come first.

izzvlogs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:13:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I use that system too! Except it doesn't work and I still end up pigging out :(

Jacosion ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:47:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I actually prefer sides like vegetables rather than the main part such as chicken or beef ect...

SMofJesus ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:19:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents got my brother and I to like vegetables so much that we would eat all of them before even touching the meat. To this day I love most vegetables. Sweet peas where my favorite growing up, toasted brussel sprouts are a close second. Don't get me wrong though, loved meat too. My brother and I lucked out growing up to be part of a family that was very good at cooking all around. Everytime I hear that someone doesn't like a vegetable, for the most part, I'm sure it's because they've never had a dish of it properly cooked. Vegetables are awesome.

drunkenpinecone ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 08:10:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I hate being that guy but before I become that guy, this is how I became that guy.

My damn 4th grade teacher pointed out that ect was incorrect. It's etc. Whenever she would see ect, it would drive her crazy and she had to correct it.

It was a simple 2 minute lesson and when she was done, I hated her. I knew instantly that her pet peeve was now my burden and I knew I would carry this curse for the rest of my life.

NO ONE likes being corrected, especially over something so trivial. Yet, I have too to[E1] correct people every time I see ect.

That lesson was taught to me 32 years ago.

So alas, i'll be that guy...

It's etc not ect.

I'm sorry.

I hate this burden/curse. PLEASE MS. KATT, FREE ME OF THIS BURDEN/CURSE!
[E1]: Thanks to /u/Shandrith for correcting me.

Shandrith ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:45:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You have to correct people, not too. We all have our curses

Jacosion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow dude. You could have just told me. I'm not gonna leap through my screen at you.

frugalNOTcheap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I do this too. A lot of people think its weird I'll eat one item at a time. They don't realize I stay slim by saving the best for last

Genocide_Bingo ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 13:16:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm vegetarian so the rule is always to eat the veggies first :P

getinmyx-wing ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:13:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother always did this. It's probably one of the few things I'd praise her on. She never pressured me to keep eating if I wasn't hungry, but she wasn't about to let me get away with eating nothing but mac 'n' cheese for supper, either. I fucking hate vegetables, even now as an adult, and she'd always tell me, "get the worst of it over with first and the rest will be easy."

Which is really just solid life advice all the way around.

VEGETABLE_FART ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:22:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's how I was raised!

ElvenGlory ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:50:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your wife's son?

Longtimelurrk ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 06:21:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

New age people sometimes marry people who have kids from previous relationships

Glen_The_Eskimo ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

That's a bullshit rule too.
edit: I'm a parent who had taught my children how to eat healthy, balanced meals without overeating or forcing them to eat things they don't like.

DinoRawr9000 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:17:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well no wonder you'd think that, you're from Greenland.

krsdean ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:57:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Apparently teaching your children about nutrition gets you negative internet points.

krsdean ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 03:32:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Isn't it keeping them from protein? Why not just teach them the importance of eating balanced. What the benefits of each foods are and teach them to eat a little bit of everything, Until they're full?

neernitt ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:51:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lol. Keeping a growing boy from protein, carbs and fat? They'll eat everything in the house that isn't a fruit or a vegetable!

Skydragon11 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:48:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do you really think younger kids will balance their food pyramid?

ArchEmblem ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 03:50:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Plus, most kids will eat the protein/starch/sweet parts of the meal long before they touch the vegetables, so it's better to make sure they eat those first. They'll probably eat the protein on their own afterwards because it tastes good.

LyannaMormontsRBF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:40:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also you can incorporate that into the other parts of the meal. If it's all cooked together into like, a sauce or coating on the protein or a sauce in the starch, they can't exactly pick it apart!

liftstropical ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:11:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And food pyramids aren't even balanced

krsdean ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:48:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Not on their own, but only telling them to eat their veggies isn't doing any better. Also the pyramid is outdated information, no one teaches the pyramid anymore.

derefr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:20:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's good for forcing them to eat vegetables at all, but it's backwards from a physiological standpoint. You want the fiber to serve as the chaser to a meal, to scratch away the carbs that just went through before they can settle into a biofilm.

IndieHamster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:53:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Was complete opposite in my family haha. Eat the meat first (because it's the most expensive), then veggies, and if there's going to be anything leftover (which we would get in trouble for), it better be the rice.

Stmpnksarwall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:33:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I require them to eat the protein and veggies. They must finish these if they wish to have seconds, but any starches/pure fats are optional. Also they don't have to clear a plate to be finished, but if they don't finish the protein/veggies, I save the plate for if they get hungry before the next meal.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:28:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can leave the table if you finish your vegetables. But if you don't eat your meat you can't have any pudding.

Thats not just a Pink Floyd thing either, they need their protein as growing kids besides if they dont eat now they'll be asking for snacks later and I just won't abide that. I believe snacking is not healthy and should only be done as a treat or when you're fucking hammered, you should be able to stick to 3 square meals.

onlykindagreen ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:55:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The three square meals thing is not really a health thing, just a cultural one. A lot of people now suggest smaller meals around every four hours. Some of those "meals"' might look a lot like snacking to you. Some people even thrive on intermittent fasting, wherein they don't eat for 16 hours and then eat all their food for the day in the remaining 8 (or whatever fluctuation of hours works best for them). Plus, snacking doesn't have to mean cookies or chips, it can be a bag of baby carrots, a handful of nuts, or even a few rolled up slices of ham or turkey. Snacking is definitely not "unhealthy" if you don't want it to be. And if personally your body is unhappy with just three meals a day, sticking to that very strictly could lead to unhealthy choices. Adding a snack during the day can curb hunger that might lead you to subconsciously take larger portion sizes and overeating at lunch or dinner.

FF3LockeZ ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 05:43:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is how you get fat kids. Everything on the plate is better to eat than the junk food he's going to eat in an hour if you don't make him fill up on healthy food. If there's one thing kids love to do, it's eat the bare minimum at dinner and then eat an entire bag of oreos afterwards.

[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 07:03:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Letting your kids have access to entire bags of oreos outside of mealtimes is how you get fat kids dummy

FF3LockeZ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:09:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Those oreos were for me! Greedy little fuckers!

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:22:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Buy an oreo safe

pantysailor ยท 281 points ยท Posted at 23:22:23 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ugh. This. I still struggle decades later.

boxsterguy ยท 319 points ยท Posted at 01:32:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here. I'm trying to teach my kids otherwise, but it doesn't help that grandma and grandpa live with us and are still very much of the old school, "clean your plate, there are starving children in Africa" mold.

Lot's of discussions of, "If they're full, they're done. We don't require clean plates in this house," go in one ear and out the other.

[deleted] ยท 185 points ยท Posted at 03:08:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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boxsterguy ยท 225 points ยท Posted at 03:16:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's a very 80s thing. It's supposed to mean there are kids in the world who don't have food, so you should eat yours and be grateful. It's really more for picky kids refusing to eat because "I don't like it" ("you don't like it? Would you like to eat mud, like poor kids in Africa?"), but it morphed into "clean your plate".

SavvySillybug ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 05:22:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I use a variant. โ€œThere are sober children in Africa, finish your beer!โ€œ

Hate cleaning up after a party and empty beer bottles have a half-gulp left in them. Why open another beer if you're not finished with the one you have?!

And I'm not talking house parties where you might put your beer down and lose it. I mean the aftermath of a LAN party where there are over a dozen bottles next to someone's seat. And all of them systematically slightly filled.

Just why?!

Operation_Felix ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:32:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just couldn't wait to get to that new cold one i guess

SavvySillybug ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:34:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They weren't even cooled, just sat in a crate on the floor...

PartTimeZombie ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:40:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

80's? I was being told this in the 70's.

Ragolsnagol ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:15:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your parents were just hipsters in the 70s

PartTimeZombie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ha! Awesome. You wouldn't say that if you met my Mum.

Gregorqn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:54:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can I meet your mum?

PartTimeZombie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:59:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sure! She does live in New Zealand though.

Gregorqn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:02:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I would absolutely love to visit New Zealand.

PartTimeZombie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:07:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Great. Come on over then.

Gregorqn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:22:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Unfortunately that's out of budget. One day I will though. I'll pm you then

reallymobilelongname ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:38:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

80's?!? It's a depression era thing.

boxsterguy ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:45:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cleaning your plate is a depression era thing. Blaming it on starving kids in Africa isn't. I assume that came from when the "For a dollar a day, you can feed hungry kids in Africa" commercials started playing. I thought that was in the 80s, but it might've been the 70s.

BaronWombat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:13:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just FYI , I grew up in the sixties and 'starving kids in China' was that generations version.

cabothief ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:46:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh my god, that makes so much more sense!

Thank you, this has always confused me.

copperwatt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:55:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Who even started that, and how did it spread? Like the same words over dinner tables all across the country: "Finish your plate, there are kids staving in Africa!" "Ok fine send it to them!!"

It's like a hack screenwriter was writing for everyone.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:34:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

eat mud

"mom, your understanding of nutrition is rudimentary at best."

gravityapple ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:21:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Grew up with it, hated it.

cardinal29 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:11 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FF3LockeZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:47:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cleaning your plate and not being a picky eater are very much linked. The reason kids don't clean their plate is typically so they can save room for junk food.

allltogethernow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah to be honest, I don't struggle at all with the fact that I was taught to clean my plate, so I don't get what people here are complaining about. I'm a very versatile eater, I eat healthy and enjoy food, and I care a lot about not wasting food because ... like seriously. Don't waste your food goddamn it. Throwing away perfectly good food is disgusting.

Self_Manifesto ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:28:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a kid, I was eating at a friend's house when her parents said to her "clean your plate, honey, there are starving kids in China." She replied "well if they want it they can come get it."

I lol'd.

DiamondMiner2323 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:39:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well IF YOU WANT SOME, COME GET SOME! LOL ITS BRET HART

trashitagain ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:19:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I always tell it like this:

There are starving children in Africa, and if we don't eat this food then they might get it, and then they will grow strong and overtake us. Eat this food to keep those African children from destroying us.

kern_q1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:52:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lol. I wouldn't have given a fuck about them becoming big and strong.

PM_ME_TITS_MLADY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:09:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's cause you aren't racist enough you weakass scum.

Your parents obviously haven't brought you up well enough like this fine gentle-white-men.

little-drawings ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:45:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Grew up hearing that but my kid-brain thought "There are people who go through our trash!" so I thought throwing more food meant feeding more people :/

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:50:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If I was extremely wealthy, I'd airdrop my leftovers over Africa (or poor areas of the US, that might be more feasible) from a plane and hope someone finds use for them. Then again, it'd suck to be walking down the road and have a tupperware full of chili fall out of the sky and knock you out. Maybe just bread and other soft foods.

drunky_crowette ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:06:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I got grounded for telling my mom to mail her tuna helper there then when I was 8. Didn't help that my sisters both laughed.

Misty_Rose98 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You know that's exactly what I used to think xD But the reasoning is so you can be grateful for what you have. Parents want to guilt trip their kids and get them to realize they're more fortunate than others out there and they should appreciate it. So? Shouldn't fill up em up till they pop though xD

horrible-est ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:27:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
jakashadows ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:37:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hated the Africa thing so much. Eventually I told them I would be better off mailing them my leftovers than me eating it.

Prubably ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:11:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

See im torn here. Because i absolutely hate wasting and will avoid it at all costs. So I think finishing your plate is important in that sense

I also agree that you are done when you're full though. My issue with it is, once again, wasting. Not because "African children are starving" but more because I'm waisting time/money and whatnot by just throwing it out.

boxsterguy ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 03:17:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So turn it into a feedback loop. You got full before your plate was clean? You took too much. Take less next time. Plate is clean but still hungry? You didn't take enough. Take more next time. Eventually you'll hone in on a proper equilibrium, where you waste little or nothing at all while at the same time not overeating.

The real problem is that most people suck at portion sizes, including parents putting food on kids' plates (and kids putting food on their own plates).

[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:26:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I'm hungry, my eyes are much bigger than my stomach.

IaniteThePirate ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:50:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My appetite is so damn inconsistant and fucked up that portions are really hard for me.

jubillante ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Meanwhile in Asian families we have small plates and a small bowl of rice and a spread of dishes to take from as you eat lol. None of this pile-your-entire-meal-on-one-plate nonsense.

... Admittedly this is pretty horrible habit to break when you want to count calories :(

DrunkenJagFan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:36:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Buffets completely changed when I managed to learn this strategy.

I actually enjoy them now after I leave because i don't feel like death.

Bromlife ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:30:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Please explain to me how overeating reduces waste at all? The same amount of food was "wasted". Except one way it went to the trash and the other it went to your fat stores. But no food was "saved" by it being consumed, you'd be better off mulching it.

LyannaMormontsRBF ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:45:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you. The waste argument bugs me so much for this reason. Not to mention some children, if you force them to eat too much, will quite literally vomit a short time later.... and how is that not waste, not to mention traumatizing them with something that should not be traumatic (eating a meal)? You're not saving food by pigging out on it.

SuperNoobyGamer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:39:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, when your like my dad whose mom (my grandmother) died of starvation, you kinda have to get used to wasting absolutely 0 food.

LyannaMormontsRBF ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:46:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am sympathetic. My grandmother grew up during the Great Depression and one of her siblings died of starvation/malnourishment, and my grandfather also had his own struggles with that given he was an orphan.

That being said, in modern times, obesity is the epidemic we are facing, and obesity kills and ruins people. So teaching our children to overeat in a time when learning to moderate their food intake and say no and eat balanced meals in healthy portions is the only way for them to safely navigate the fact that we have so much calorie dense food so readily available is just not appropriate. I understand why some older generations have their attitudes-- that doesn't make those attitudes appropriate for the modern issues we face.

SuperNoobyGamer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:52:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah true, this was during China's great leap forward programme, killed 30 million people. Obesity is also a huge problem, but in the opposite direction. A big problem with many families is that they simply make too much food, and have to waste a lot of it. When I go over to visit/have parties at more traditionally American families, I am constantly astonished at how grossly they overestimate the amount of food they eat, and the amount of food they waste. And then here,

http://endhunger.org/food-waste/

In the United States, 31 percentโ€”or 133 billion poundsโ€”of the 430 billion pounds of the available food supply at the retail and consumer levels in 2010 went uneaten.

This cannot simply be because kids aren't eating enough or too picky, there is clearly a problem with the Western mentality towards eating food.

LyannaMormontsRBF ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:01:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I totally agree about families overestimating and overmaking food. I was really guilty of it for a long time until my husband and I started weighing our food waste (we compost) and were pretty much astonished. We've gotten it way, way down.

A really big problem is that in the US there's shitty distribution for for food and making sure food that's perfectly edible but maybe not "prime" for selling at top dollar or selling because of damaged packaging makes it to the people who need it.

I volunteer a couple days a week in the summer helping with serving free meals for kids during the week. Our policy is they get a hot lunch and after that can have as many peanut butter and jelly sandwiches as they want. It absolutely breaks my heart when kids quietly ask for 5-6 sandwiches and a paper towel to wrap them in for their family's "dinner" that night.

I guess my feeling is forcing my sons to clean their plates doesn't help those kids (and it really doesn't) and it may just give them an unhealthy relationship with food in the meantime. But I definitely agree wholeheartedly with working at fixing infrastructure to get more of that food that gets wasted to people who need it.

halfdoublepurl ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:46:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We used to get hours-long lecture, and occasionally beaten if we didn't clean our plates as kids. It's messed me up pretty good, and I still struggle with overeating (and my weight) as an adult because of it. People blame a lot of things on the obesity epidemic in America, but I think this mentality had a lot to do with it.

FuckStartYourHeart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:18:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"/u/boxterguy, please finish your food. There are kids in Africa who don't have any food. Eat yours so they can't get any!"

picatel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My aunt was cleaning up once at a family day, and poured out half a can of beer that no one claimed as their own. She said, I sure wish people wouldn't waste so much. Her son quipped, Yeah, there are sober children in Africa! I still chuckle when I think of it.

TonySoprano420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your house or there's?

boxsterguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My house. Thus "they live with us" not "we live with them".

TonySoprano420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:05:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So then why not put them in their place when they try to push finish your plate or some other idea you don't agree with? They're adults they need to be told they are wrong sometimes too.

boxsterguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:06:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Because this

TonyHoyle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh god.. the hours I spent staring at cold half eaten food because 'you can't leave the table until you have eaten it'

I hope I never do anything like that to any future kids.

genghiskhannie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was a kid, if I left food on my plate, my mom would yell "YOU DON'T LIKE IT." Followed by a good 5-10 minute monologue about how nobody loves her.

When I was in my mid 20s, I heard my mom tell my boyfriend that she was always so worried about me as a kid because I don't eat much. But now she thinks I just don't require that much food. Better late than never, I suppose.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You need to have a "I'm the parent, this is my house. If you do not like the rules you're welcome to leave." I had that convo later. MIL is on her way out.

themcp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I prefer "If there are starving children in Africa, send them our leftovers, because we're not hungry and eating more will just make us fat."

FF3LockeZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's got nothing to do with Africa, it's about eating healthy. Letting kids choose what they eat is how you get obese kids. If there's one thing kids love to do, it's eat the bare minimum at dinner and then eat an entire bag of oreos afterwards.

SanshaXII ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:27:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"I guarantee there are starving children in this very town. Go and feed them, then."

trauma_kmart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

eh, I mean it's good to not waste food and eat what you have on your plate.

Dune17k ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:03:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Listen you old fucks it's my house and my rules. Remember that old gem? Yeah, listen to me or get the fuck out. Cunts."

I may or may not have parental issues.

Eletctrik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:22:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can always take more food. It's about not wasting food by leaving some on your plate and throwing it away.

hellhelium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:47:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was taught to finish my plate, but not because of the starving kids in Africa.

Usually, I get to chose how much food I want in my plate. My parents wanted to teach me that i shouldn't take more than I can eat. Because if I do, it's wasting and the food that I don't finish gets wasted.

Yes, we have a fridge and we could keep left over food. But that's not the point. The point is to be aware of the resources given to us.

I totally appreciate the fact that they taught me this.

Plus, why give so much food to your kid if they can't finish it? Just give them a bit, and if they want more, then there's some left over.

crazedanimal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Seriously? Tell them to shut the fuck up or they'll be out on their asses.

boxsterguy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:33:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, that would be shooting myself in the foot, since they're living with me and my boys to help out with raising them after their mother died (these are my in-laws, or whatever you call them after being widowed, my children's maternal grandparents).

You learn to live with a lot of little things (grandpa smacking his lips at the table when you're trying to teach the kids to chew with their mouths closed, following behind them and flipping the toilet paper and paper towel rolls to hang the right way when they change them, making sure they locked the back door because somehow they're physically incapable of doing so) and some bigger things (the only way I get to have a sit-down dinner with my kids is if I leave work at an unreasonably early time, because apparently they can't survive until 6:30 to have a proper sit-down meal with daddy; and yes, we've had discussions about this) in the interest of making sure the kids are taken care of while I work to provide a roof and food and such. Yes, I could do it on my own if I had to. There are plenty of single parents of multiple children who do. But I'll endure these things in exchange for making life easier all around.

Juststumblinaround ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:30:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Kick your grandparents out because they are old fashioned?

Lmaoooo

OldFartOf91 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:46:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Throwing away food is not a good thing to teach children. Put just as much food as you need on your plate and if you're not sure, make it a small portion. You can get another one.

granite_the ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:06:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here - now I try to finish all the food in the pots too, your not done until all the food is gone. My wife has to remind me that if I am not hungry then stop eating. I am like, it will go to waste and she says no, you can eat it for lunch tomorrow if you care. So, I take it to work and eat it for lunch; all the guys make fun of my random lunch bucket.

pantysailor ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:36:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Taking leftovers for lunch is a great idea. I need to invest in actual containers.

granite_the ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:38:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I use the jar pickles come in. It has a wide mouth so I can get a fork in there, they are short and fat, and is just the right size for a lunch. If I lose a jar it is no big deal. I have a half dozen of them in the cupboard.

EDIT: Some of my coworkers (apparently grew up in wealthy households) somehow could never understand I was not eating pickles for lunch and that I had a bunch of these jars.

pantysailor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:40:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Genius!

granite_the ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:42:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I fill each jar with leftovers and stick it in the fridge. I might have three or four if we have a few nights of leftovers or the kids don't eat much. Then I grab a jar each day. If I don't eat it I just pop it back in the fridge. The sealed lids do a good job of keeping the food even on warm days.

EDIT: the baby pickle jars are just the right size

Bromlife ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:32:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'd rather food went to waste than i got any fatter. The rationalisation that it's wasting it by not eating it is incorrect.

granite_the ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:35:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly my wife's point; I don't need to gain any weight and could lose another 20lbs. Being raised in a household where if you want to create holy hell then don't eat all the food, makes it difficult to unlearn. I won't even begin to describe what it was like at my grandparents' with food.

Brawldud ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:03:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Generally I've found it to be a lot easier if you underestimate how much food you're going to want to eat, it's much safer than overshooting and you feel less guilty about it.

Also helps to make leftover friendly meals so when you're done eating you can just say "well, whatever's left goes in the fridge!"

Pandahatbear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:33:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Try smaller plates?

beoheed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:20:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've dropped 100lbs from my heaviest and everyday is still a fight with this

[deleted] ยท 82 points ยท Posted at 00:04:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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KingGumboot ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 03:30:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have to do this as well because I spent years being literally forced to finish whatever was on my plate (until I became a teenage boy with a bottomless pit for a stomach). Between being forced to finish my plate for half my life, and then just finishing it by default for half my life, it's very difficult now for me to realise that I'm full and should stop eating

Amberleaf29 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:17:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here. I cross the line from "full" to "oh my God I am feeling really sick right now" in a snap, and if I'm not careful I sometimes skip right over "full" to "sick". I've never vomited from eating too much, but I have almost vomited. Might be my weird brain too, though, or the fact that a lot of North American portion sizes are large; but I always tend to leave the last bite or two uneaten. I'm not sure what it is about those last few bites! But I can just never seem to finish them.

Zerotan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:02:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It doesn't help that restaurant portions are much bigger than you should eat. I don't mind that, but I have to make sure to stop.

MarvinTheAndroid42 ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 01:47:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's merit to that, but it's often taught wrong. It's about being able to control yourself, and remember that sometimes your eyes are bigger than your stomach.

Basically don't bite off more than you can chew and remember that everyone has their limits.

abhikavi ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:40:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think it's a good idea (once they're old enough) to teach kids to eat everything they've served themselves, and the learn not to serve themselves too much. What's not fair (and not healthy) is having someone else fill their plate, but still require them to finish everything.

beccaonice ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 03:10:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Even if they did make the mistake of serving themselves too much, I don't think forcing them to eat it all despite being full is a good idea. Lesson can be taught in another way, perhaps?

abhikavi ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:14:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think a good habit to teach in case of over-serving is to move your own leftovers into a container and put them in the fridge, and eat them later (e.g. next day for lunch).

Amberleaf29 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:19:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, this works really well! I do it all the time, because at restaurants and stuff, the portions are too large for me to finish about 95% of the time (I have a small stomach, apparently).

abhikavi ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:22:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have a small stomach, apparently

No, portion sizes are ridiculous. Look at any of the calorie counts for your standard US restaurant fare-- they're not what anyone should be eating regularly for a meal. In fact, they're often 2-3x what should be a meal. Eating half and saving the rest is the only reasonable way to handle that.

Amberleaf29 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:31:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's true, but I have plenty of friends who can indeed finish everything they get at a restaurant. My friends tease me because I never finish my food!!

IaniteThePirate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can never finish my food either. It annoys my parents so much but I just can't. They think I'm eating a ton of snacks but half the time I haven't eaten since breakfast.

The only time I have been able to consistently finish three meals a day was when I was at camp. And that was only because of all the physical activity I think.

Amberleaf29 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:15:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh God, I have literally had days where I've eaten like one meal because I just haven't been hungry! When I'm anxious about something (which is often...) or sick, I just lose the ability to feel hunger completely. Actually, no - with the anxiety, I can still feel hunger; I could be starving, but put food in front of me and I feel nauseous after a few bites. Isn't it weird? I've always been underweight, probably because of this. Ironically, talking about this has reminded me that I'm hungry and should probably eat...

IaniteThePirate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:32:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes! Anxiety makes it so much worse. I can barely eat if I'm anxious or upset, but even when I'm not sometimes I won't eat. It doesn't help that I'm a picky eater (I'm working on it but also I'm really sensitive to the texture of food which makes it worse) so often if I don't like the food there's zero motivation to eat.

Usually I'll have not eaten all day and I'll be hungry and it's like I know I need to eat and have no reason not to, but ehhh. Thankfully I've gotten myself into the habbit of eating at least something right when I get up and also eating as much dinner as I can (even if it's just a few bites) so I don't starve to death.

Amberleaf29 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:37:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit, are you me??? I'm picky, too! I've got texture issues as well, which, yes, makes it worse! And I have no motivation to eat if I don't already like the food, just the same as you...

I try to eat as much as I can at lunchtime at work. Even so, my coworkers rag on me because some days I'll throw half of the food I got out.

IaniteThePirate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:47:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Omg you get it! So many people think I'm making it up when I say the texture has an affect ;n;

I don't eat much at lunch though becuse when I'm home I don't think about it and at school I buy lunch becsuse I don't know what I'd bring, but the school food sucks so half the time I don't bother or I barely eat what I do get.

Amberleaf29 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Textures, and strong smells or tastes. Those two combined can sometimes be quite the disaster for me when it comes to eating. :P

The place where I work has a full-service cafeteria, but the food can be kind of hit and miss so that also depends on whether I finish my lunch. xD

aMutantChicken ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:31:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Keep the "no dessert if plate not empty" thing, but let them choose how much they want (although there needs a minimum amount in the plate).

serrompalot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Definitely. When I go to the school cafeteria, I always see people throw away platefuls of food, like what the fuck? Don't pile on that much food if you can't eat it, idiot.

Throne-Eins ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:57:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was raised in a home where you did not leave the table until your plate was clean. I spent a lot of hours at that fucking table. I literally had to wait until my food digested and my stomach started to empty out so I could eat the now cold and nasty food. But if I ever felt or got sick from forcing everything down, they told me I shouldn't have done it.

I'm still unlearning this as an obese 35-year-old. I dread dinners with my family because I get horrendous guilt trips if I don't finish the massive portions in restaurants (uh, why would I want to cram down the leftovers that would make for another awesome meal?) or if I don't take "enough" food for home-cooked meals. It doesn't help that my dad is Italian, so refusing food he makes is about the most insulting thing you can do to him.

I think this is a big reason so many people (including myself) struggle with weight. We lost the ability to innately know when we're full. It's hard to get that back.

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ theonecalledzach ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:36:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I read this answer at a buffet, so I can relate

efrique ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It takes forever to clean those plates.

right_in_two ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:51:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As long as you're not one of those assholes who leave mountains of untouched food on plates when you leave.

rustyspec ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:31:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family too. Once in college, I was eating with a classmate. I remember eating our meal, and I kept saying "I'm so full", but I kept taking bites out of my food. I must have said it quite a few times.... and then my friend said, "You know, you don't HAVE to finish it" and her statement blew my mind. I was quiet for a really long time because I was registering what she had just said. I smiled, and said "You're right." And I threw away the rest of the meal. :)

RedditMapz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:21:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was a kid I got so much shit over this. Always in trouble for not eating. Well it's 2016 and guess who is still in shape and looking good, while all my cousins that were "eating right" have ballooned in size.

chrissilich ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:55:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is a huge problem when trying to lose weight.

SGrumpy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:44:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How can you have any pudding, if you don't eat your meat?

mmagain ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:56:20 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly this. And that I should take seconds right away without stopping to think if I'm still hungry.

Yankeeknickfan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I taught this to myself

sharkcrayons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This so much. I have had a lifetime of fucked up eating habits due to what went on at mealtimes at our house, including CLEAN UP YOUR PLATE.

CourrtyCub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:01:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same :( Except I still haven't unlearned it.

JenniferMcKay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't like pancakes anymore because of this.

cingalls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like this is one of the rules that's only meant for little kids otherwise they'd stop eating the healthy stuff on their plate and then half an hour after dinner they'd be wailing "I'm hungry" or getting into the cookies.

ManaMoogle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I often ate "the healthy stuff" first because I liked saving the best for last, but my parents still beat me for not finishing everything. I was a slow eater. When my parents finished their plates they started an egg timer and I'd have 1-2 minutes to finish everything or get hit with a belt or wooden spoon. Similar comments in thread; some parents just sucked I guess.

cingalls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh yeah, I was talking about parents who are doing their best. I used to get hit at the dinner table too, but I wasn't trying to excuse those kinds of parents when I posted.

hinakura ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That fucked me up. It was mostly my grandmother who said that though, nowadays I can control myself better.

CrazyLogical1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother realized how stupid this one was and made the rule that you had to have two bites of everything (because how are you sure you don't like it when you've never tired it?) and left it at that.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was always taught this when I was growing up with my family. At 32 I still struggle with this, especially if I dine out at a restaurant.

As head of the household now, my rule is serve yourself, but you have to eat everything on your plate. I'm trying to teach my kids how to portion properly while also not wasting food.

SonatiAkb48 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't forget that if you don't finish before bed you have to eat it for breakfast the next day

LeGama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I lost nearly 30 lbs after coming to college because of this. And it had nothing to do with working out, it was all diet. Given I still finish my plate, but now I'm the one putting food on it.

kiwispouse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ugh. I was an embarrassing 23 before I realised I didn't have to eat every cheerio in the bowl.

malabella ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:08:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents used an egg timer to time us eating. If we didn't finish within a certain amount of time, we got spanked. We were required to clear our plates.

I'm sure I should see a therapist about that.

ManaMoogle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:12:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Omg mine did that too! I wonder how many of us there are... I must have been only 5 or 6 years old, but I have such vivid memories of being the last one at the table, crying my eyes out as the fucking timer ticked down because I had 1 minute left to finish 2 bites of peas. I hated peas so, so much (still do- and anything with that texture) and I still don't understand how my parents were such monsters to BEAT ME WITH A BELT for not finishing in time. How could that have been justified in their minds? :(

TaylorS1986 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I blame my mom doing that crap for my weight issues, if you force kids to "clean their plate" they'll stop listening to their body telling them their full and they fuck up their ability to tell when they are actually hungry or not.

Ouma_Shu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:16:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God. This. Ughhhhhhh. Such a bad habit i have now. Compared to my girlfriend and her family im a monster truck of food space in mh belly because of the whlle finish my plate of food.

GraveyardGuide ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't get it, just put less on your plate then.

the_jak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And this shit is why i over eat.

Not because i want to, but because i cannot waste the food.

willyolio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

teaching kids to keep eating even when they're full and ignore their bodies telling them they have enough food...

yeah, obesity epidemic incoming.

on a semi-related note, a world-champion hot-dog-eater guy regularly inflated his stomach by stretching it out and filling it on a regular basis (with plain, calorie-free water, though...)

my-sash-please ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like that's something you shouldn't unlearn.

If you just take small helpings and finish it before you decide whether you're hungry enough for more, then you don't have to waste any food.

AltimaNEO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shit, my mom or relatives would ask if I wanted more.

Being a kid, of course I wanted more.

Now its like, fuck. I want more, but I shouldnt have more, nor do I need more.

dantes-infernal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why unlearn this?

stillphat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Actually, I'm working with that one. In terms of waste, I try to portion my meals as much as possible. If I want more, go get some, if not, clean my plate and save the rest for later.

wanawanka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is some old world depression remnance. It probably contributed to many of us becoming a little chubby too.

I hate this shit so much! I get that this made sense back in the day but we live in a society that cums to wasting stuff now. If I dont eat that last yellow-looking piece of broccoli, I dont think it's going to make a difference in the grand scheme of bio waste that occurs every minute.

FireBreathingSwagon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Came here to post this. I didn't realize it was such a bad habit until well into my 20's.

ptam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It took me two decades of life before I realized "You know what? Maybe there's just more food on this plate than I should eat in one sitting."

_The_Real_Guy_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Felt the same way until less than a year ago. 50 pounds overweight me had lots of problems. Now I just leave like 10% of the food on the plate as a way to stop (though whenever someone calls me on it I just say that I've got to leave some as a sacrifice to Hestia).

skywreckdemon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I actually got a little fat as a kid because my parents overfed me and forced me to clear my plate.

TheKunit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck my parents for this.

284lbs later and 10 straight years of dieting, losing 60+ lbs, gaining 45 back, losing 30, gaining 50. It's fucking terrible on my system and I continue to have this natural idea in my brain that I cannot stop eating until all the food is gone. All of it. And when my plate is empty? Seconds. Thirds. Snacks. Fourth and fifth meals. Desserts.

I can't fucking stop eating

I need a goddamn therapist and I can't afford one. Like literally there is no money in the bank. Fuck me, right?

BoonesFarmGrape ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

omg the amount of obesity in the world due to that "rule"

shanfranciisco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:13:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If I didn't finish my plate I was made to feel like I was wasting food therefor wasting my parents money. It caused me to gain weight. To this day I still feel really guilty leaving food if I'm full, but I try to make myself realize when I'm actually full so that I'm not over stuffing myself and eating more calories than I need to take in.

MissKUMAbear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom did this too, but she gave me sooo much food. I didn't even realize it until my friend came over and couldn't understand why she gave him so much food. And then I started going to my friends houses and found out what it felt like to eat until you weren't hungry, as opposed to uncomfortably full.

Apollo3519 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And that's why I got fat

Thanks mom

Flight714 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They may have had a point if you kept asking for food an hour after leaving your dinner on your plate.

forcebubble ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Personally it's a matter of upbringing. Parents grew up with just enough to go by day by day, food wastage is abhorred, especially if it's from having appetites bigger than stomachs. Finish them or take/order less, the leftovers will be eaten as part of dinner or reheated for tomorrow etc. With the exception of terrible or inedible food, nothing is thrown away as long as they as they are safe for consumption - the kids may decide not to touch them anymore, no problems, eat the newly cooked stuff, we'll finish the leftovers.

Storm137 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents never did this to me thank god. Relatives tried but they had my back. Same with food I had issues with.

sailor-mouth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This was mine too. I had weight issues due to over eating because of it, it took forever to break myself of the whole thing. What blows my mind is my sister is doing it to her kids now even though she and I both talked about how ridiculous our parents were for doing it.

willdagreat1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hardest habit to break when growing up in poverty. There's no snacks. What's here is what's here to eat. Eat now or go hungry.

SeeDeez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:43:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You don't want to be part of the Clean Plate Club?

NothingToDoHere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah. My family ate like that and now I'm still dealing with the repercussions years later.

anyd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

3 more bites... aaand I'm fat.

BerryGuns ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:51:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Allowing kids to under eat healthy food isn't a good thing..

ScumEater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I realized I eat and drink for efficiency. I get a beer or food, I'm not happy until it's gone. I'm a goal-oriented eater.

TaurineLine719 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I went out with a girl and we were eating dinner at my house and she licked her fucking plate what is wrong with people its ok if a couple crumbs are left on your plate

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was lucky enough to have the exact opposite from my mom. In daycare, they didn't make us eat everything, but they encouraged it by calling a clean plate a "happy plate", and my mother did not like that. She always just told us to eat until we were full.

DustedGrooveMark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This one is huge for me, especially lately. I'm at the age (26) where I finally have a great job and want to save up to buy a house, so I temporarily moved back in with my dad... And now I see why I've spent the last couple of years completely rearranging my diet and lifestyle. He can't understand why I would rather meal prep and have some variation of chicken and veggies for dinner than just ordering Chinese food every night and then topping it off with ice cream.

My whole philosophy up until a few years ago was to eat as cheap as possible and make sure I finish everything I get. Well, as a kid I feel like we always went to buffets for that reason, and I had to keep eating until I "got my money's worth" of food....which is the worst reason to eat. My parents never cared about my nutrition so neither did I....until I got fat. Now I count my macros and work out five or six times a week.

kidbeer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

1st gen: poor

2nd gen: fat

3rd gen: balanced

Nightguard119 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You mean I don't have to eat everything on my plate? Maybe I can start going to chipotle again

Ranger1221 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:07:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm almost 30 and I still can't break this. Trying to lose weight sucks

rebelsniper2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

same my ex step dad would get pissed if you didn't finish every thing on your plate

Obvious_Moose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:16:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"If you don't eat if with dinner, you can have it at breakfast"

jennydancingaway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:26:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know i remember sobbing stuffing food into my tiny mouth as a kid

CritterNYC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:32:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We'd put our hands up proudly and yell "Clean Plate Club!" after a meal. Wasting food was a big no no.

xthatguy339x ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was raised to eat everything and to enjoy it no matter how shitty it was. My girlfriend's family has been inviting me to dinner on a regular basis ever since my dad was arrested. One of the strangest things I ever heard was when my gf saw I didn't like what her dad had made and flat out told me it was okay to stop eating and say I didn't like it. Family members do this on a semi regular basis in their house and it's just so strange to me. It was the first time in like 14 years that I had said I didn't like a home cooked meal to the person who made it.

strangleluv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:40:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Still a struggle

LucianoGianni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:53:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This fucked me up royally when I moved out. I had no idea how to cook proper portions, leftovers were unsanitary, and not eating it all was wasteful, so I packed on pounds BAD.

I'm finally undoing it.

Kigarta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:53:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think dad finally stopped serving me beans w/ sauce (gravy?) either after the second/third time I threw up from them or when we sat at the table for 2+ hours because I wouldn't eat them.

Slimy textures in my mouth remind me of vomit. Vomit would then happen.

candyman337 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:55:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That rule was so engrained in me I would finish things even though I felt sick, I didn't even realize what I was doing until one of my older friends pointed it out to me about a year ago, I'm 20 years old.

gadgetroid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:56:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also "No, that's too little. You need to pile more food on your plate."

Iripiritje ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:08:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same at our house, except when we didn't like te food, we always had to eat as many bites as our age. So we would at least eat a little, had to learn to eat some kind off food and your taste changes over the years. We suddenly liked thing we didn't like before cause off that.

ObviouslyNotBanana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents tried so hard to teach me that. I was too stubborn.

_steve_rogers_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:22:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Whoever started this is an idiot, and likely contributed to the massive amount of obesity going on right now.

yelsnia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:24:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes! My grandmother used to force feed me when I was really little - she also used to have to clean up the vomit after every meal... I wonder why!

KnowledgeNate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:29:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everyone on the reddit circle-jerk makes such a big gripe and fuss about this. If this is the worst your parents have done to you, told you to finish whats on your plate, then you LUCKED THE FUCK OUT IN LIFE. You have no idea what being damaged means. Get over yourself.

Sohcahtoa82 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:35:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wonder how much this attitude has contributed to the obesity epidemic. So many of us have been raised to overeat.

wizbam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:46:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I honestly feel like this one has ruined me on a very deep level. I still have to recite a mantra every time I'm full and have to throw food away, because I feel like I'm wasting food, which was something I never should do. Turns out, my family has no control over their calorie intake and use that as an excuse to scarf up every scrap on the table.

Now I just tell myself "Waste it in the trash, or waste it on my gut"

LadyKyo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:48:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And that's how I got to be 265# before I decided enough was enough. Almost 30 years of that habit, and the idea that it was meat, potatoes, plus another starchy veg. I had RNY gastric bypass last year, have lost 120#, and learned how to feed my new body. Being open about it, and how I canceled to eat now means I no longer hear that from my in-laws (cut contact with my toxic family, too).

HaroldLott ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:48:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Apparently one of my aunts told my cousin to finish his plate because there are starving people out there. His response? "Then pack it up and ship it to them"

Juliablizzz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:09:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You must be Filipino. We literally had a saying growing up... "Take what you want but eat all that you take."

sognidistelle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:10:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad used to make me sit at the table until I was finished with my plate. I was a small girl and didn't gorge myself. This would amount to me sitting at the table while everyone else is done and watching tv but I wasn't able to leave. Eventually my mom would tell him to let me and then they'd fight.

Kalima ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:38:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i still struggle with this today and i am in my 30s. Not being allowed to leave the dinner table until my plate was clean has caused issues for me.

CaptainBenza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:42:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm still trying to unlearn that. Not my mom, but my friend's mom was hard on me for wasting food as much as I did when I was kid. Ever since then I always clean my plate, save my leftovers, and sometimes eat other people's leftovers.

I also love food and so do my friends. Sharing food is just a constant, especially when going out, so sometimes it's hard for me to determine when I'm eating just out of joy or when i might be stepping over into eating just to not leave food.

Chel_of_the_sea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:48:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I got that as a kid and it's a big part of why I'm overweight. I'm learning now, in my mid-20s, that smaller plates make a huge difference in how I eat.

Quiesc ยท 333 points ยท Posted at 23:21:12 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

All things political. My mothers side of the family is a constant cycle of choosing the opposite side of the political spectrum to spite one's parents, not for any actual political reasons.

poopwithjelly ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 14:28:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's just old fashioned fun, right there.

Doctah_Whoopass ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:48:08 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well look at the time, its alt-right o'clock!

billstranix ยท -19 points ยท Posted at 16:40:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And that's why democracy doesn't really work in practice

[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:33:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's actually why democracy works better than most systems.

Idiots will always exist, but if power is granted by communal opinion, the idiots get drowned out. It's when only a few people have any say that an idiot can cause real harm.

Shower_her_n_gold ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 19:35:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Most people are idiots

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:08:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But clearly you are the exception, right?

Shower_her_n_gold ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:27:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is irrelevant to how true my statement is.

billstranix ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:13:46 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Modern turkey , a state that was supposed to be secular, was based I'm Democratic principles and once again through the manipulation of inflation given to the people their are slowly turning into a theocracy where few people at the top will have power

Trapper777_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:19:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What would you put in it's place?

billstranix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:51 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A systems based on the governance of scientific fact and statics. Imagine a world where the decision made that effect the population of a country where not influenced by lobby groups or political donations , where people's tax dollars are spent where they are needed and funds are allocated appropriately instead of based on party ideologies or favors. Sure we would loose some of our individuality but we get very little done as a society to progress with the system we have now. When people are given a purpose such as the space race a nation did an incredible thing: sent a man to the moon and returned him back to earth, but it stopped there. All the research and technological advancements we were researching lost funding becusse the public got to bored and moved onto something else instead of progressing forward as a society. Giving everyone a say is a bad thing and still a relatively new idea that has lead to some of the most wasteful uses as economic outputs we've ever seen all becuase people are given the choice not to care about what we leave for future generations (and as far as we've seen the majority feels that way because Democratic nations act that way).

Trapper777_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:40:29 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
didyourmummy ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 18:30:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

the above poster is communist scum do not listen to what it has to say

sonicschall ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:19:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

DEMOCRACY IS NON-NEGOTIABLE

[deleted] ยท 8956 points ยท Posted at 23:44:26 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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DentRandomDent ยท 5398 points ยท Posted at 00:31:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Ugh! My child old constantly tells me "I have to go pee!" And will dance around until I tell them to go. I say every time "if you have to pee, just go!" But they insists on waiting until I give the go ahead, I think they learnt it in preschool :\

edit: i don't always use that phrasing, usually i say "just go to the bathroom", they've been potty trained since before 2 so knows the deal. Also, how the f did is become my highest rated comment??

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that1persn ยท 698 points ยท Posted at 04:46:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have privilege passes that you need to give to the teacher do to anything out of class. We get three each class and you need those three to last you 9 weeks.

[deleted] ยท 818 points ยท Posted at 04:52:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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arexin ยท 1846 points ยท Posted at 05:07:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

there was an old, prude, bitch of an english teacher i had in sophomore year. a kid asked to go to the bathroom, she declined him repeatedly even after he clarified it was an emergency. so he got up, and said, "im just gonna fuckin piss in the corner anyway bitch" and he went and pissed in the corner of the classroom. drama ensued, security guard came in laughing his ass off. teacher got fired in the end

qwertykitty ยท 1256 points ยท Posted at 05:22:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like it should be a basic human right to go to the bathroom when you need to go. I mean, yeah, if someone asks to go during every class and doesn't have a medical reason for it, then you can have a meeting with them about time management and the importance of being in class. But no teacher should be allowed to flatly refuse to let a student go.

transandpans ยท 1017 points ยท Posted at 05:32:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It is a basic human right. That's why she got fired.

Findpurplesky ยท 248 points ยท Posted at 06:59:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I remember sitting next to my friend in class and our teacher wouldn't let her go to the bathroom. She'd needed to go in her last lesson and that teacher wouldn't let her, tried to go in the switch between lessons but there was a queue and couldn't before the bell went, and now she was in this lesson. She was being monitored for tardiness so didn't want a strike against her.

So she ended up wetting herself. At 14. The poor girl was quietly crying to herself sat in a puddle.

Then the fucking bitch of a teacher pointed it out to the class and made her walk to the school office in front of everyone to call her mum for clean clothes. Makes me want to punch that woman still.

Amani77 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 11:26:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Shit. Reminds me of a time in one of my highschool classes. I was getting a super bad headache and I kinda knew I was getting a migraine. I got em bad. I told the teacher that I needed to go to the nurse's office. She said I looked fine even though I told her I was getting a migraine. She refused to let me go again. About 5 min later I was starting to lose parts of my vision. I started to really insist at this point. She ignored me some more. After about another 5 minutes of me pleading she yelled at me, "FINE, but fill out the nurse pass yourself!" I was sensitive to sound, light, and the pain was getting worse her shit attitude was only making it worse. Large portions of my vision were all distorted; there was no way I was going to look at that shit and write it all down. I told her I couldn't, she yelled some more shit at me that I don't recall - I was hurtin pretty bad at this point. The girl next to me ended up writing it out for me and gave me a hug; we had a couple of classes together and she knew I wasn't the kind of person to make this shit up. As soon as i got to the nurse's I started profusely throwing up and dry heaving until my balls felt like they were going to fall off. Mom came and picked me up. I continued to dry heave for a good 30 minutes. For the rest of the day and into the morning, my head felt like someone had taken a jack hammer to it for a week.

Could have all been avoided had I gotten some pain medicine when I felt that shit creeping in...

edit: lose*

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:23:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had chronic migraines in high school.. I can't imagine dealing with an asshole teacher like that. :(

RiverWyvern ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 09:45:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A friend told me about a girl who was trying to get excused from the class and the teacher wouldn't let her. She had to stand up and proclaim to the class that she had started her period and NEEDED to go to the bathroom, but this crotchety old man of a teacher still wouldn't let her and told her to sit back down. Finally a guy in class had to stand up for her and tell the teacher how fucked up that was, since it wasn't anything that couldn't be prevented. I hear teachers say all the time when they ask to go to the bathroom "Why didn't you go before class?" or "You can hold it in another twenty minutes." But the girl was basically being punished for a natural body function. The guy escorted the girl from class without permission and waited outside the bathroom for her, but when they got back the teacher was pissed. I don't understand these kinds of people.

uber1337h4xx0r ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 09:51:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some are sadistic. Some get rightfully suspicious because it always seems like the same kids that get bored in class are always the same ones that have to use the bathroom every single day.

elastic-craptastic ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 11:00:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

seems like the same kids that get bored in class are always the same ones that have to use the bathroom every single day.

It's almost like our bodies have cycles and, just like a school day, also have schedules often times. So if I eat and drink pretty much the same things every day at the same times then I'm gonna have to use the restroom and expel that shit(literally) at pretty much the same time.

Biology, how does it fucking work?

guesswhatihate ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 11:41:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, I definitely had some shitty classmates who would leave class to "use the bathroom" because they were bored. Id say more than half the time the trip wasnt needed.

electroskank ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 12:47:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wasn't the kind of kid to do that, but I definitely had times where I asked to use the restroom just to get up, stretch my legs, and try to just chill for a minute to relax and reset. I look at how other countries do schooling and just get sad of how strict the US is. The only break some schools give kids is a short amount of time for lunch, and expect them to stand in line if they didn't bag lunch, eat, and use the restrooms all in that time? And then not need to use the restroom any time from then to the end of the day? At my school you didn't always get to use the bathroom during lunch if too many kids went before you.

pug_fugly_moe ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:13:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Welcome to work.

undeclared1744 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:42:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't have to ask my boss if I can go to the bathroom

electroskank ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:19:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ya right. And every job I've had except my current job, you got a break every two hours, unlike in school.

ChristyElizabeth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yea... I'd use it to go wander the building and think.

ButterFlamingo ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 12:20:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

she had started her period
still woudn't let her

oh
my
god

partofbreakfast ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:15:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

On the flip side of this, I know a teacher who got written up for letting a girl go to the bathroom, because "I'm on my period" apparently meant "I'm going to sell weed in the bathroom" to her.

Not saying that shitty teachers don't exist, especially since a lot of the teachers who pull this bullshit don't work at schools where extreme behavior problems (well beyond truancy) are a constant problem. It's just that bathroom breaks are a very complicated problem in schools, specifically because teenagers have poor impulse control and some of them see "I have to pee" as a way to get out of class to do whatever they want.

The solution one school I work at ended up using was escorts. They literally paid a team of 5-ish adults to be on standby to physically walk to whatever classroom had a kid that needed to go, walk them to the bathroom, stand outside the door, wait for the kid to finish, then walk them back to class. And no teacher could send a student down to the bathroom without an escort, because all of the bathrooms were locked (escorts had keys to them).

thelittlepakeha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:58:18 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Damn. That's what we do here during exams. One person at a time and a supervisor goes with you, which is why there's always two supervisors.

TheStormlands ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:36:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What a guy...
True chivalry right there

poofywings ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:34:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Please tell me there were some repercussions against that teacher! Holy shit. If that happened to my hypothetical kid, I would be livid.

fNU1 ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 07:08:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

The fact that sadistic, dispassionate, infectious scum waste like this "teacher" are ever able to glean employment at all is a sad indication of where we stand as a society and human species. Makes me want to rip someones throat out and fuck the hole with scathing hair iron.


edit: I was just being a snarky edgy punk when I wrote the above. I actually googled a, uhm, "methodology" mentioned out of sheer curiosity to perhaps see where the meme came from, or where it's going, or whatever. I actually kind of regret the knowledge I have now. At least one of the articles I ended up reading made me literally cry. People are fucking sick and cruel.

Da_Boom ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 08:38:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My sisters excuse to any of this was "IVE GOT MY PERIOD, DO YOU WANT ME TO BLEED EVERYWHERE?"

after that, all the teachers just learned to accept that she was leaving the classroom and there was nothing they could do but accept that

oh and as for me.. i never bothered to ask - i slipped out of the classroom without anyone noticing, and slipped back in, kinda strange though - i barely ever got reprimanded, and I'm not known for being quiet

Oh and if any teacher ever did manage to keep us in... all we would have to do is bring our parents into it... my mum works in a school, and my dad.. well.. he's my dad, rule one in my house: Don't ever mess with them, they are scary when angry - its always fun watching them tell someone off that's not you!

uber1337h4xx0r ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:49:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lucky. Mine always told me to be submissive to authority, so they'd have backed up the teachers.

googahgee ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:11:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Many teachers are high school rejects that somehow made it to college and didn't have the smarts to do anything more than teaching. Of course, this is mostly true for elementary school teachers and middle school teachers. And of course, there are also some cool teachers, but the point still stands.

fNU1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:29:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think it's a US issue, really. Other post industrial and/or high HDI nations generally DO NOT have these issues.. as they general take their public education system and welfare of their children very seriously.

transandpans ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:28:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Her lack of logic is astounding. Refuse to let a child go to the bathroom and then make fun of her when she inevitably wets herself.

Avadakaboom ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:36:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I remember being in algebra class and having to pee so damn bad. Young male teacher said no a dozen times over a half hour while I asked him discreetly and I couldn't take it anymore. I stood up and loudly proclaimed that I needed to go to the restroom because I was bleeding out of my vagina. He quickly pointed towards the door and never told me no ever again.

SadGhoster87 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:38:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Makes me want to punch that woman still.

I'll come with you

junkmail88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:58:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I would have punched her to unconsciousnes

Luke-Antra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:36:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I would have probably told her to just go to the bathroom during class and would have thrown a chair at the teacher if she didnt let her.

Nicoleness ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 08:05:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A few employers didn't let me go until break. One break in a 10 hour shift.

FelidApprentice ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:05:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's illegal

RetroCorn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:25:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's extremely illegal.

TrumpIsLoveAndLife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:27:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's no federal law and most (many?) states don't mandate breaks either.

RetroCorn ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:38:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's an OSHA violation for sure, I just checked.

TrumpIsLoveAndLife ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:50:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TheBros35 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not on breaks, but is it illegal for an employer to refuse an employee the right to use the bathroom?

RetroCorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:04:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TrumpIsLoveAndLife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was talking about breaks, not using the bathroom.

JessyJK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:10:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bathroom breaks are a different thing than relax and meal breaks.

transandpans ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:26:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can technically hold it that long, but you really shouldn't be forced to.

Quatzecoatl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:30:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ok now that, I'm fairly certain, is illegal

Koolaidguy541 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 08:26:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Its not a right; rights can be taken away. Its an actual biological need. We cant refuse the bathroom any more than yeast cells can live in alcohol. lol

MrF33 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:24:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You don't have a need to use the toilet, as proven by the guy pissing in the corner.

You have a right to use a bathroom.

transandpans ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:25:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

True, true

my-alt-account- ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:28:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not in New Jersey. SCONJ has ruled that bathroom during school hours is a privilege, not a right.

transandpans ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:25:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's such bullshit.

Kordiana ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 06:14:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a religion teacher that was a pain the ass when it came to who could and couldn't go to the bathroom. If a girl asked to go the bathroom, he almost always said no, unless she brought up that is was in reference to her period. And either way they couldn't be gone for more than 5 min. But if it was a guy, he could take as long as he wanted. There was one guy in my class who would go to the bathroom every block class (hour and half class), and be gone for almost a half hour, and the teacher would never say anything. And when one of the girls complained, he said that there is no reason that a girl needs to be gone that long. And she was like, what you think we don't poop or something? That class sucked.

shankspeare ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 07:17:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hahaha, what!? Most bathroom breaks people just need to pee, not poop, and urinals make this three times faster for guys than girls. I really can't see a situation where a girl can understandably be expected to take less time than a guy would in the same situation. It will almost always take either the same amount of time or even slightly more. And what did he think that a guy would need to do that would take 30 minutes in the bathroom? Does he think every guy has an uncontrollable urge to occasionally jerk one out in the middle of the day? This teacher sounds ridiculously out of touch with reality.

uber1337h4xx0r ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:57:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hate urinals because of the lack of privacy, and I'm relatively tall, so I (GASP!) prefer to sit when I pee because of small splash back (I'm a prude and hygienic).

It doesn't take long. You drop the pants and underwear halfway, let loose the pee, and then dry up, and then put the clothes on and wash hands.

It takes maybe 6 seconds longer.

shankspeare ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:18:48 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I actually hate urinals too, mainly because I hate getting dribbles of piss on my pants, so I only use stalls also. When I say it takes longer, it's a combination of two reasons: women's restrooms have only 1-2 more stalls than men's restrooms despite not having the 4-6 urinals, so stalls are more 'in demand', and also because they have more cleanup than guys do after peeing. I probably was exaggerating a bit when I said 3 times longer though, it's probably closer to 1.5.

Kordiana ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:54:53 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh he was. He also played favorites to a stupid degree. One of the guys in my friends class period knew that he was one of his favorite students, so he wanted to test to see if he actually graded papers by content or by the name on the paper. So to test this on a three page paper, towards the middle of the second page he randomly wrote, Fuck you Mr. Redding, and turned it in. He got an A, with some note about being a clever paper on the front page. My friend who sat next to him was so pissed. Because she worked her ass off for a B.

dumbledorethegrey ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 08:04:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have Crohn's Disease and while my case was pretty well controlled through school that this never had to happen, my mom was always clear with me that if I ever had to go, I should just go, and the consequences could be dealt with later.

cupofbee ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 11:15:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sorry for your disease, but man your mum sounds like she really had your back! I'm glad for that!

thelittlepakeha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:06:01 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm a little nervous about going back to work in an office environment full time because I haven't done that in several years and since then I've developed digestive issues that can be kind of incapacitating and occur unpredictably every few/several weeks. It's kind of inevitable that one day this is going to happen during work. The first part is terrible cramps and I can at least breathe through them while sitting at a desk (usually; sometimes I end up curled up in crying pain) but the part I need to be in the bathroom for can be... lengthy. :/

afakefox ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 05:33:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, our school had it so one student could be out,of the classroom at a time. Actually, each class had a little plastic pass with paper you'd write your time in and out, and some had a boys pass and a girls pass. I thought that was fair. They'd let you go if there was,an emergency too and someone is taking too long. To see the nurse or anything else the teacher would just write a note.

[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:15:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:39:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds hilarious imo

LateNightPhilosopher ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:40:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Our theater teacher also had a construction orange toilet seat you'd have to take with you (most wore it around the neck for convenience lmfao). Not just for the bathroom either, but anywhere you went.... and then the next year he became a football coach. His theater class became basically free time 90% of the year with students practically free to come and go as they please. The toilet seat became just a decoration. Siiiigh

foxy1604 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:41:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It sounds exactly like the thing my school would let you do and I would love it :p (FYI: I am on a creative school that let you do what you want as long as you meet your deadlines so things and people are a bit different there)

AccountWasFound ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:33:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My middle school had giant wooden letters, but some teachers lost them and just used erasers. In high school teachers have laminated colorful sheets of paper, but about half attach them to something else, and the other half are folded so small that they fit in your pocket.

cadillakdr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:38:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We had those. Time out/Time in and destination..A friend and I took it and went to Burger King for breakfast

redhededguy ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 09:43:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Funny story. 2009- Lackland AFB, San Antonio. My first night in Basic Training we finally got to go to bed at about 3am. The TIs would generally leave a class of graduating trainees in charge to provide firewatch since we hadn't learned the ropes just yet.

Well, lo and behold, we get stuck with the 3 douchiest guys I have ever crossed in my 7 and half years in the military. Throughout the night people would wake up to question why the signed up and were immediately told to lay down, shut up, and quit being a baby. Those few of us who got up to utilize the latrines had to request permission to go to the bathroom and then wait for one of them to escort us to ensure we weren't just waking up to wake up.

Come the next morning we were all frustrated but figured fuck it, this is what we signed up for. Our TI, as scary and crazy as he looked, asked us how our night went. We explained it was weird having to ask to use the restroom but we would get used to it. The fire that lit in our TIs eyes was easily the worst I had seen in all of the eight weeks we spent with him. He immediately asks us who it was watching us. We told Airman Snuffy, Airman Dumbass, and Airman Douche.

A short 3 hours later we are practicing all of the dorm stuff (fixing our beds, arranging our lockers, folding our clothes, etc.) and in comes these 3 Airmen with our Squadron commander and TI. He asks us if these 3 were acting firewatch for us. We replied with the yes sirs of 52 scared trainees. He told us all to relax and then had us watch as all 3 were completely stripped of rank and were washed back all the way 0 week meaning they would have to complete all 8 weeks of training AGAIN.

He explained that those 3 were going to graduate the next day and would get to spend time with their families and then would be going to their tech school training to be Security Forces (military police) but since they couldn't understand the basic human rights of a person how could they possibly be responsible for upholding the rights of military and civilian personnel at their next duty station. They all had to call their families and explain what happened and to cancel their plane tickets for now.

Greatest moment of my entire Air Force career.

cupofbee ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:17:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow. Your TI sounds like a dude who understands to do his job. Kudos

redhededguy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:19:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He really was. A little off in the head but I think it's because during that time he knew what kind of troops the Air Force needed. The level of troops being pushed through nowadays is the lowest I've ever seen.

GummiBearMagician ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:06:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's some /r/revengeporn shit.

redhededguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:19:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Easily and I loved every minute of it.

LOLonReddit ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 08:19:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My little cousin was denied permission to go to the restroom by his kindergarten teacher so he pissed himself and she called CPS suspecting he was being sexually abused or something because of that. They placed him in a foster type home with another relatives for about a year while my aunt straightened out the legal situation. Fuck that bitch teacher.

vehement_nihilist ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 10:30:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The fuck?!? Who the hell jumps straight away to that relatively rare conclusion? What a sick human being. "When you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras".

DenigratingRobot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:28:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Probably because she was the dumb cunt who didn't allow a child who had to pee to go to the bathroom. I'll never understand why these assholes think that the bullshit spewing from their mouths is more important than a human taking 5 minutes to perform a basic bodily function.

vehement_nihilist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:25:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Seriously, what did that moron think that poor child would do? Hold it forever because the teacher didn't allow him to piss?

LOLonReddit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:56:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep. It messed up their family for a while. His parents and sisters missed him like crazy.

FlameSpartan ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:43:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Totally not a school story, but I just want to say this.

Three years ago I was a dishwasher for a local restaurant. This restaurant was owned by one man who also owns like ten other businesses in town. One of these business was a rafting/tubing deal, so they throw this big day out for the crew and take us all on the river for a lazy Sunday of getting drunk, stoned, and wet. T'was a long, good day and there's a handful of stories about it.

But the story i'm telling right now is about the driver we had on the way back to town.

I was sitting in the middle row in this old, child molester van. I leaned up and politely asked if we could stop for all of sixty seconds so I could bleed the lizard. No response. I just let it go, thinking it'll all be fine. Ten minutes down the mountain, and this grown ass man is bouncing up and down in his seat like a fucking child. Everyone's shouting at the driver, "C'mon, man, pull over." "He can't hold it." "A grown man is telling you that he needs to piss. Stop."

Still no reaction from this motherfucker. Finally, about 45min into the trip, someone in the backseat takes pity on me, hands me a water bottle. There's some sprite-booze mix in it so I suck that down as fast as I can and begin pissing into the bottle.

Holy fuck, I've never heard anything so loud in my life. But the relief was real. I filled that fucking 20oz little bottle and pissed twice as much when we finally got out.

Fuck. That. Driver.

DarthJarJarOfMayo ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:15:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's a sensible, non-authoritarian approach. It'll never happen in schools.

christhedorito ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:54:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It does happen in schools tho. The only time I had to ask about going to the toilet was when I went to elementary school. Later on you just kind of sneak out quietly so you don't interrupt the class and do the same on your way back. I guess if you went too often, they'd call you out or speak to you after class about it, but I've never experienced anyone being gone for too long or going every couple of minutes.

JeskaLouise ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:26:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm a dance teacher and our classes are only an hour long and I teach pre-levels so around ages 4-7 and I had alot of students in one particular class that kept on saying they have to go to the bathroom and then they all had to and it took up a ton of classtime so I created a rule and told the parents as well that you had to go to the bathroom before class or you wouldnt be allowed to go till water break (which was halfway through the hour) so we would always check at water break if anyone needed to go. So at the end of the day a little girl stands up and walks over to me and is like teacher? And I'm like "yes?" And she's like "I'm pefovkfjdlrksbf" cause she's four and still hasn't figured out talking so I'm like "what?" And she's like " Im peeing!!!" And her little knees where locked together and she was peeing on the floor . I felt so bad as a teacher but we had asked plenty of times The Mom luckily was super understanding and let us know the daughter was going through the phase but yeah pee rules can be intense

uber1337h4xx0r ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:00:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's unfair to males since our water doesn't break

IFE-Antler-Boy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:07:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ken M would be proud

ComebacKids ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:20:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

have a meeting with them

That's why they don't do it. Better to have some bullshit policy than actually speak to students that could be having issues.

HeyItsRey ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:02:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm kind of 50/50 on whether or not you should just be allowed to get up and go.

When I was in high school a majority of the people who left class to use the restroom would take 10-15 minutes to go mostly because they would use it as an excuse to fuck around in the hallways or go talk to friends or something. I never had an emergency bad enough that I had to leave during class, classes were 53 minutes and we had 5 minutes between periods. That's more than enough time to go IMO. But I also don't think teachers should ever flat out say no if someone needs to go because sometimes people do really need to go.

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:16:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had one or two teachers who had a 'just go, don't interrupt the class to ask' policy in high school, which was really nice. Most other teachers had one pass (sometimes two) so only one student could go at a time, which wasn't bad either. The biggest issue was that our bathrooms were closed between periods, so we HAD to go during class or during lunch (and during lunch there were 200 other students with the same idea). Every teacher had a 'You should have gone between classes' policy, because technically the bathrooms were supposed to be open, but the bathroom guards (our school had a lot of bomb threats a few years before I was there) switched between classes, meaning there was no one there and it was locked. We had 7 minute breaks, and if bathrooms were open during that I could've easily gone the whole year without going during class.

tygloalex ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 11:52:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm a High School teacher and so many teachers still make kids ask to go to the bathroom. Last year, I had a 19 year old Senior in Calc 2 ask me if he could go to the bathroom on one of the first days of school. I told him that if he were old enough to die for his country, he didn't even need to ask another man to go pee-pee.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:46:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There are some jobs where you can't go to the toilet whenever you want, if you have an issue fair enough but in over a decade I've never been to the toilet unless it's in my breaks.

RageKnify ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:42:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've never gotten to that, but if I ever REALLY need to go to the bathroom while in class and the teacher denies me I'll just walkout the classroom and go do it.

AndGraceToo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:47:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I get trying to prevent childish bathroom antics, so, only let one go at a time. But you can't flat out tell your whole class, no.

In second grade, I apparently pissed myself because Mrs Brooks was a lazy bitch, evil cunt. I blocked it out- my mother reminded me of it. Said I crawled under the desk and peed. Bitch claimed she wasn't aware I had to go. My mom said I said I did, 3 times, until she yelled at me for bugging her.

Never was I so happy to go onto 3rd grade. Mrs Rondon was an angel.

chinotenshi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:52:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Teacher in Japan here. I have a policy that if you ask occasionally, I'll let you go every damn time unless it's right before the bell to end rings.

However, if you ask every, single class and/or spend 5 minutes or more in the bathroom every damn time, I'm talking to your homeroom teacher and no longer letting you go to bathroom during class. I will instead remind you to go before the bell rings in front of everyone every single class until you get the hint. You have 10 fucking minutes between classes and don't have to switch classrooms. You have more than enough time to go.

cupofbee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:19:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ten minutes is a good break time. As I was in high-school, we had either five minutes or zero minute breaks. Obviously that forced us to sometimes go to the bathroom during class.

chinotenshi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:31:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had 3 minutes in junior high and 5 in high school. That's not enough time when you're running between classrooms. My students currently rarely have to change classrooms due to how the Japanese school system works, so I'm super envious of the 10 minutes they get. That's MORE than enough time to put your math stuff in your locker that's in the back of the classroom, grab your English stuff, put it on your desk, go to the bathroom, and gab with your friends down the hall. The only time I'm more lenient with bathroom requests is if the previous class was PE and I know the teacher let them out late to change.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:46:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There are some jobs where you can't go to the toilet whenever you want, if you have an issue fair enough but in over a decade I've never been to the toilet unless it's in my breaks.

icedoverfire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:15:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Kids lose their human rights in public schools via in loco parentis... Or at least it seems that way.

gategirl5353 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:15:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is what I do in my classroom. The kids are not allowed to 'ask' to go to the bathroom. They have to tell me they are going. Just say 'I'm going to the bathroom' and go!

One kid in 100 will abuse the rule but that kid probably needs a break and/or extra help so it's also useful information as well!

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:22:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It should be. I have permanently thickened bladder walls form having a school board blanket policy of not allowing students to use restrooms except during "passing time" - which was the three minutes during which you often had to traverse the whole building. I wasn't even allowed to go during study hall. I had a medical condition for much of middle school and into high school that a doctor had written a note for, which made me have to urinate more than normal. Wasn't allowed to go.

Let people pee. Kids are human beings too, and I think sometimes schools lose sight of that.

GallantChaos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:44:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Whenever my class had library time, I ended up needing to take a crap. I guess I never let myself relax, so I never needed to unless I was in the library. Cue senior year and I'm the librarians assistant, and I need to crap every day, like clockwork, halfway through the class. The librarian thought I was in something deep.

DarlinMermaidDarlin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:38:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

People always bring up that students ask every day in the same classes to go, but think about it - they're on a regular schedule every day. They eat breakfast at the same time, probably drink the same amount at the same time, lunch at the same, etc. Of course their digestive track is on a schedule, too.

ichlibejuice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:51:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No. If they keep leaving class they'll fail and have to deal with being a fucking idiot. One person shouldn't have to avoid using the restroom because another abuses a fair bathroom policy.

ICanWittleALittle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A lot of the problem is school kids not having any balls. Come on, kid. You can drive a fucking car, but you're gonna let some old bitch tell you you can't take a leak? I always asked first, and if I was told no, I would tell them I was going to the bathroom, upon my return, they were advised, by me, to do whatever they say fit.

I never got in trouble. Assert yourself, but show them you're an adult.

ty_bombadil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Seriously, it is a right. No student has to stay in class when they need to go the bathroom. They also need to be prepared to deal with the consequences of a stupid, strict teacher. But legally, they are in the clear.

CodeRed1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Here is the thing I totally agree with this statement! But the problem is there are a lot of people who abuse bathroom breaks to be on their phone or to take a walk outside. In the process of doing so it kind of screws it up for everyone else because the teachers can no longer trust us. Other than that I totally agree it should be illegal to stop a student from using the restroom.

Crushgaunt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:55:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I see what you're saying but I had a not insignificant number of classmates in high school that would, if allowed, cut most of every day by "going to the restroom"

_gina_marie_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I love that I'm old enough to vote, I'll be in college in 3 months, and I still have to ask to go pee. Amazing.

[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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uber1337h4xx0r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:03:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's nice that she let you go, at least based on what you said.

Cirvis ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 05:21:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We had an incident like this in midleschool, the parents went apeshit, sued the school board and forced a change in school policy. After that students could leave the classroom on a whim with no permission.

[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 06:07:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I went to an alternative high school that had this policy (same as college, really) and it worked fine. Kids that want to actually fuck off are goners anyways. Keeping them in class just screws the kids that want to learn.

mikelikegaming ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:33:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I agree those students are better off with the disruptive kids not there but the teachers are still responsible for those students out roaming the halls.

Cirvis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:54:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The policy change included a clause that parents where responsible for the behavior of their child whenever he wasn't under direct supervision i.e. in class or p.e.

LetSlipTheDogesOfWar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This would be great, in theory. Unfortunately, a local school policy wouldn't supercede education law. I would much rather let my students make fully autonomous decisions and live with the consequences than try to walk a tightrope on things like potty trips. If my job, career, teaching license, etc., didn't hinge on my students' mastery of the material, I'd be much less concerned about the couple kids who refuse to learn anything, participate, etc., sneaking off to the bathroom and jerk it while vaping.

If the kid is in class, I at least have proof that he had access to the content. And evidence that he wasn't the one smearing shit on the bathroom walls.

queefiest ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 05:13:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes! My justice boner is so hard right now. Teachers need to understand that not everyone is going to the bathroom to mainline drugs

BloodOnMySnuggie ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:22:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not just that though. A lot of students just "go to the bathroom" just to get out of class for a little and stretch their legs or kill some time.

I remember sophomore year in math I would do it because the class was soooooooo slow. I asked to go to the bathroom and went and got some water from the drinking fountain, and walked slow to kill time. Sure, I didn't take an hour but 5 minutes outside of that class was 5 minutes NOT in that class.

user_82650 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:13:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you're at the point where the class seems boring and horrible, it doesn't matter anyway, because you're definitely not going to pay attention.

blaqsupaman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:53:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or to fuck. Happened my junior year of high school. Two students got caught hooking up in one of the bathrooms and then for the rest of junior and senior year my English teacher referred to it as a "number three" as an inside joke. Whenever anyone asked to use the bathroom she would let them go but say "just don't do a number three."

FF3LockeZ ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:25:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Most of them are though.

casprus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:31:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

most of them go to grab a wurst at my school

peepeeparty9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Food is my drug. cries silently to self

danpod93 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:38:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not sure if he was talking about sausage or handjobs..... Or both

Deadmeat553 ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 05:13:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't understand why someone would pee in the corner rather than just leave and go to the bathroom. Spite?

tarion_914 ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 05:21:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just following the rules. She said he couldn't leave the room...

Nicolascagebois ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 05:15:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Because it's hilarious

remigiop ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 05:22:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And point in case, teacher denied student permission to leave the class. Student found a way to fulfill both relief of waste and comply to the teacher's arrogance.

casprus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:31:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

grow up and be an engineer my son

FF3LockeZ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:24:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Prove they actually needed to pee and weren't just going to smoke, maybe?

Spite is also a good enough reason though.

arexin ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:22:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i live in new york. i went to an inner city public school. those dont usually contain individuals with particularly bright qualities

gomanio ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:28:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Amen, I attended grade school in Jersey City. Not the best, brightest or most upright citizens. (there are exceptions)

bobbygoshdontchaknow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:54:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I went to a public school that had very high rankings as being one of the best around, and I still was amazed at how stupid the average kid was. things that most people considered hard were actually so easy

gomanio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:57:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had actually transferred to public school after attending a private catholic school. They were around 2 years behind.. It actually felt a bit sad, I remember the sheer culture shock of the way people behaved too.

Tortoso4325 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:26:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Takes huge balls to do that lol

Throwaway-tan ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:55:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well I mean it's probably because he didn't and it never happened.

Deadmeat553 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:58:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nothing ever seems to happen these days.

Cranser ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:40:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I did this same thing except I got a nice 3 day suspension for it.

Deemes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:26:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

was it worth it, though?

Cranser ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:48:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

100%.

phy1um ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 06:57:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There was a teacher at my primary school who never let kids go pee. A boy in my year decided to wet himself to get her in trouble.

In the morning he brings in a heap of juice boxes and drinks them at recess and/or lunch. It was like a big scheme - there were loads of rumors but nobody was convinced he'd actually do it. In the afternoon lessons he made sure to give the teacher a few chances to let him relieve himself, before he just pissed himself then and there in class.

I was in the class next door, and I still remember him walking past our window, pants soaked, grinning and giving a thumbs up. We all knew what had happened, and that his teacher was done.

GoTzMaDsKiTTLez ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:28:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A real human bean

Jarvizzz ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:28:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good. Fuck teachers like that. I got "in school suspension" so many times I can't even count them just from politely asking to go to the bathroom and being denied. I got up and left anyway. I'd get back and the teacher sometimes would literally hold the entire class up until I got back, and then fucking tell me I had to leave class for "disrupting their lesson." Wtf. Fuck power-tripping asshole teachers.

hippieholli ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:59:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

See, I can understand teachers not wanting disruptions, but you can't 'plan' your bathroom habits. Students should be allowed to use the bathroom whenever they need to. No questions asked. I heard a new story on here where a young girl started her period in class and because she had used all her bathroom 'privileges' (fucking privileges! Like going to the bathroom isn't a right!) she bled through her pants. It obviously embarrassed the fuck out of her and she ended up having to change schools.

mikelikegaming ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:37:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some kids would ruin it for everyone by just leaving and not coming back. Teachers are still responsible for those kids roaming the halls too. Let's say one of those kids does something stupid and hurts themselves, then the teacher loses their job and could even be sued by the parents.

hippieholli ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:57:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

True. But I would think(and hope) with so many years of college and experience with kids, that the teacher would be able to 'read' the child and be able to tell whether the kid really needs to go or not. And with that, I'd think the instances of kid's not coming back or doing something other than going to the bathroom would be few and far between.

Edit: Changed 'teach' to 'teacher' so as to avoid sounding like some clichรฉ rebellious teenager.

Arti241 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:09:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How many college classes do you think they have on the potty dance and middle school/high school variations thereof?

mikelikegaming ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:52:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So you want them to gain superhuman abilities?

musicsynergy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:15:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Earlier you said that students should be able to use the bathroom whenever they need to, no questions asked. What you say here seems to contradict that; being able to read the child to see if they really have to go or not.

After one of my kinder students goes to the bathroom, 25 other hands go up and suddenly everyone has to go to the bathroom. So no, students are not allowed to use the bathroom whenever they ask, if it's obvious they don't have to go. I'm an elementary teacher though - with middle school high school or even my older kids I'd be far more lenient. Just pointing out one situation where the teacher shouldn't let a child go to the bathroom.

Arti241 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:59:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

but you can't 'plan' your bathroom habits

You sort of can? I mean it's not 100% that you'll never need to go at an inconvenient time, but you should be good 19/20 times. You can fill up a gas tank before it's on empty, and you can empty your bladder before it's bursting. This shouldn't be a novel concept. When I was in school, I went everyday at the end of lunch (need or no) because that was the time wewere alloted. Did emergencies occur where I had to leave a classroom? Of course! But very seldomly.

Now I think it's better to let someone go than cause an incident, but let's not pretend it's impossible to control under normal circumstances.

hippieholli ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:11:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sure, I agree with what you're saying. But like you said, emergencies happen, and that's really what I was referring to. You can go at the same time everyday and still have an unplanned accident. Especially girls. IMO it's better to let someone go and avoid a potentially embarrassing accident, than not let them, because 'they should have gone earlier' or 'nows not a good time' or whatever. That's all I'm saying.

Arti241 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:36:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, it's not what you said, even if I agree with what you meant. Too often on these thread I see people acting like its impossible to pee preemptively at all. Not "the coffee hit me too fast, I got my period, or I have explosive diarrhea," just "you can't expect me to go outside of class because I want ready!"

Seriously, last time I saw a person taking about how they continually went tothe bathroom 45 minutes after lunch, every single day, during class because they weren't ready to go during the lunch period. That's ridiculous.

Shieya ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:07:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sometimes even with planning, things don't go as expected. You can drink a little more water than you planned to and suddenly have to pee, like RIGHT NOW, even though you went half an hour ago. Your period can come early. You might regularly take a dump every morning exactly seven minutes after having your morning coffee until one morning it just doesn't happen, and suddenly an hour later you're thirty seconds from shitting your pants. The human body is weird like that.

Arti241 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I pretty well acknowledged that:

I mean it's not 100% that you'll never need to go at an inconvenient time, but you should be good 19/20 times

In my other reply I was even more clear on it.

"the coffee hit me too fast, I got my period, or I have explosive diarrhea," [would be good reasons and exceptions]

I've already addressed everything in your reply.

MALAMVTE ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:52:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Amusing as that is, why not just go to the bathroom instead of pissing in the corner?

Zoninus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Because he wasn't allowed to leave the room.

Nicoleness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:12:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If he left, he would be punished.

stevemachiner ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:28:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a bladder infection once, not only was it really painful to go, when I needed to go it was excruciating. It flaired up over the course of two months while I went on two different courses of antibiotics. I had a German/business teacher who really had it out for me, I was disrespectful in my first year with her to curry favor with the other boys in my class, but it really wasn't me and I kept to myself the following 5 years of school.

Back to the infection, I had my mother write a note, specifically for this teacher, the majority of the rest of the staff, liked me and wouldn't mind if I went during class, I doubt I ever had to show the note. I showed her the note, she begrudgingly let me go. 3 weeks passed, I was still sick and had started the second stronger dose, I needed to go, bad. I walked up, presented the note, she said 'what's this? This is three weeks old' I said is was still sick, she made a big scene of it in front of everyone, all boys school so I paid for that after. I had to sit back in my seat, white knuckled, teeth clenched and sweating the urea my bladder could not expel the way it needed to. When I got to the bathroom I passed out from the pain, half slumped over the wet pissy floor of an all boys school toilet. I woke up, no one had found me, my uniform was filthy, I just walked out the door, past the principles office, didn't say a thing, got an empty bus home and didn't go to school for a fortnight.

Tdlr was refused to go to the toilet, passed out from the pain in a pissy floor.

Ewoedo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:30:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I used to always just leave and go if they wouldn't let me. I never got in trouble cause if I was ever told off for it I'd just reply with "I either disobeyed you or I'd pee my pants, what would you rather?"

2smoke4me ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

During my unior year of high school there was a girl in my English class who had a medical condition with a doctor's note saying if she asked to please always send her.

Did she take advantage of it? Probably. Who wouldn't have? But there was an instance where she asked to leave and teacher adamantly refused to the point of the girl started crying and the teacher telling her to shut up.

the-mortyest-morty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:28:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit, was she named Mrs. Sanders?

SpicyNematodes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:42:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
MJWood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:15:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sorry but that kid sounds like a little animal.

keatyne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:04:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a similar exsperience in 1st grade. Was playing with a puzzle, had to pee, was told to clean up the puzzle first, accidently peed on puzzle, spent rest of day crying in bathroom. The school gave me a change of clothes but it was so humiliating.

rurixsama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:24:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I puked all over the overhead projector in class one time because i wasn't allowed to go to the bathroom, and i was a high honors student. They learned the error of their ways quickly after that.

piggbam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:56:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That reminds me of the good old English department.. shudders

voodootrick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:56:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My husband did something similar in middle school. The teacher wouldn't let him go to the restroom so he walked up to her desk and peed in the trash can.

Vizzy1225 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:41:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hate teachers like this! Even when you say it's an emergency they'll tell you "you should have gone through passing period". I repeatedly told my (male) teacher that I have a feminine emergency and he repeatedly told me I should have taken care of it through passing period. Class ended, I got up, and there was a red stain on the seat and my pants. I got laughed at and bullied for a month while he got a "warning".

Moridin_Naeblis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

an ass of a teacher from my middle school got fired for not letting a kid go and then laughing at him when he peed himself. unfortunately, this happened years after I left the school

SadGhoster87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

security guard came in laughing his ass off.

I always love the stories where the authority figure tries to show off their in-charge-ness by calling in the police figure then the police figure laughs in their face.

ineffable-me ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:10:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And the teacher for fired? That shit would have never flown in my school. We had a kid literally crying because he (a 16 year old) had to pee and this bitchy English teacher wouldn't let him go so he left anyway because he was in pain. He got kicked out, his friend who fist bumped him on the way out got kicked out AND his friend that defended him got kicked out and had to take English from the principals office for the rest of the year. Most of us protested the next day in solidarity, and we all got detention.

andrew632 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Had a situation like this with a substitute teacher and a classmate, except for he urinated in a trash can and was suspended for two weeks - eventually attending an "alternative school" for troubled students. Teacher continued working following the incident.

TurbanOnMyDickhead ยท 77 points ยท Posted at 05:08:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One time I had a teacher tell me I couldn't go to the bathroom when I really needed to. I went anyway and when I came back got in trouble. I told the principal what happened and the teacher got in trouble. Teachers can't restrict you from going to the bathroom, you asking is more of a courtesy.

him999 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:40:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know most of my teachers would tell you to go unless it was coming up to an important part of whatever we were learning. If we were, most would ask 'can you wait a few minutes until i get through this part. I dont want you to miss it." Ofc that didnt mean you cant go but it was a suggestion. My school did a decent job of letting teachers know that the bathroom is not to be denied unless someone is abusing the right, in which case it is still not denied but an admin would possibly get involved. Ofc some teachers didnt follow this and would get in trouble but there are always those.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:38:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Even worse are the ones who give passes and then give extra credit for not using them by the end of the trimester. I had several of these in highschool, which is completely ridiculous.

mikelikegaming ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:38:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's all fine and dandy for good kids but the problem kids ruin it for everyone.

Dear_Occupant ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:20:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, but the grown-ups are supposed to already have that ratio calculated and accounted for. That's kinda like their main job. It's not like it's a surprise every year when a new crop of troublemakers rolls in.

that1persn ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:18:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

The time in school that I nearly pissed my pants was at my saturday school. 4 hours in the study hall room on a Saturday 8-12 and you can only go to the bathroom once at 10. I don't have the ability to control when my body needs to go to the bathroom so at like 8:30 I needed to go. I asked the person who was watching us and she said no. I kept asking her over the time of an hour or so when she said I could go. That hour was hell, I had nothing to do, I couldn't stand up and she kept asking what I was doing. (If you don't bring anything to do at the saturday school you're kicked out and suspended for 2 days.)

After I got back a few minutes later a kid asked to go to the bathroom and she looked at me and said "See, look at what you did!" Like it's my fucking fault that the guy needs to do something that every human needs to do. She told me that the reason I couldn't go was that if she let me go, everybody else would want to go to the bathroom. I fucking hated her for the two hours I knew her before I got kicked out.

Rustash ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:51:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What the fuck kind of school is this? You get in trouble for doing nothing? What if you finished the thing you brought faster than planned? What if you just flat out didn't have anything?

Man, I went to catholic school for 13 years and whenever I look back on the assbackward rules we had, I can't imagine how they got away with some of them. Fuck.

that1persn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:20:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I asked she told me that we should be productive, because being at school on a saturday morning is ssssooooo productive.

Smump ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:40:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Best teacher I ever had didn't give a shit if you walked out mid class and didn't come back. He had the crazy idea that by 18 you're old enough to decide what's best for you. I only had him one term though, he got offered a principal position at another school.

natural-fibers ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:34:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like punishing all students and not letting any of them use the restroom in order to make sure some students don't ditch is just a horrible way of handling delinquent students. Just let them fail. Don't punish the students who genuinely have to use the bathroom. I've suffered from incontinence my whole life. I don't randomly piss myself with no prior warning, but if I need to go I have to go because holding it is extremely hard for me and laughter or rapid movement will make me piss myself. I can't hold it in well or for a long time like some. It's humiliating and I don't want to imagine a teacher telling me "no" in that moment. Teachers just don't know their students in a way that makes it acceptable to say "no" to the bathroom.

Let the delinquents fail, and let those who have to go, go.

gomanio ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:26:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a teacher who was the latter till I just stood up and walked out of class. He complained really loudly took me to the principal after class and we found out, he legally couldn't forbid it. As long as a student didn't abuse it or take too long every day, every time. The teacher ended up in a small bit of trouble over it. Was one of my proudest early high school moments. In truth I never had intentions to abuse things and would only ever go when I needed too, but some kids...

Tuskuul ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:30:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that last one was a teacher i had, i pissed in the corner of the class room, and again down in the detention room a few hours later when they wouldn't let me again.

Helios-Apollo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:52:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like your urine didn't care for its detention in your bladder.

Tuskuul ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:07 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

nope, it was all "Fuck this shit, im out"

Nelo_Meseta ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:23:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I really feel like this should be illegal or something. I know some kids abuse bathroom breaks but still it's a necessary part of life.

BlackFallout ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:47:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I would have pulled down my pants and pissed in the corner while staring her in the face. That also might be why I never got past 11th grade. Got my GED before my peers got their diplomas though.

Stormsoul22 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:13:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Like... What can they actually do if you just go? Would they be happier if you just pissed on the floor?

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:12:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a teacher who would let each student go three times per semester. Honestly not that bad, because in most of my other classes I'd go about 3 times a semester, but this class was right after lunch. He apparently refused to admit that our school's fucked up bathroom policy (Only one or two bathrooms in the school are open at any point, one of which is the cafeteria which is always swamped, bathrooms are all closed between classes despite teachers encouraging you to go between classes rather than during) meant that a lot of people would semi-frequently need to pee at 1:30 in the afternoon.

Kenendralee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:16:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some of my teachers made bathroom passes for us but usually they let us go if we gave them our cellphone first (theyd give it back once we returned) but 90% of the time kids just wanted to go play on their phones for 15 minutes instead so they just cut out the problem and suddenly everything was good

RebeccaRegicide ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:19:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We had a kid start crying because he had to go so bad and the teacher wouldn't let him go. This wasn't even elementary school. It was high school band class.

TheStormlands ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:32:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I never got that. Is it a power complex to those teachers? do they get off on it?

Escape92 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:35:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lol, when I'm teaching I just refuse the first time a kid asks, unless I can see from their body language that it's an emergency. I just tell them to ask me again in 5/10 minutes, or when we finish the current activity.

If they actually need to pee, they'll ask again. If they're just trying to get out of class, the chances are they'll forget to re ask.

Squishy_Pixelz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:29:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In my little sister's Primary School (she was 9) she had a teacher that really hated her. One day she asked to go pee and the teacher said no so she got up headed for the door and said "I'm going to the toilet" the teacher tried the hold the door shut but my sister moved her hand from the handle (since she was a teacher she couldn't touch her back) she did get to pee

Two weeks later she got fired.

chance10113 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:10:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Old enough to vote, old enough to die for your country, but still not allowed to use the restroom for 8 hours of your day.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:47:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It didn't matter how nice or mean the teacher was, if I had to go, i had to go. Teacher would try to make a big deal of it, and would get yelled at by principle or even the dean. Usually once the dean was involved the teacher stopped. Then if I had am incident like that with a teacher and suddenly got more homework or they forgot to grade my test or something, the dean knew. A teacher got fired for it, the rest had to grow into an adult.

TimeLorde ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:39:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We had a lot of those teachers in high school that would tell us that we had plenty time in between classes to go and wouldn't allow us during class. We had four minutes.

m-lk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:45:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I remember having to go through something similar in high school. All of my teachers were super different when it came to allowing us to leave the room. I had teachers that refused to allow anyone to leave their class unless it was a serious emergency, and some teachers who told us to wait until they weren't in the middle of talking and just go.

I've never understood why teachers are so uptight about students leaving their classroom. We were supposed to be extremely responsible and all that because "Hey, we're preparing you for college" but I still had to ask them if I could go pee.

goshj0sh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:08:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

...because you know, peeing is a privilege and screw long-term kidney damage? LOL

that1persn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:10:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not just peeing, it is going to the locker, getting a drink or doing something out of the classroom.

goshj0sh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:33:09 on August 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'd be willing to forgo my comment and apologize for misunderstanding, however the reality still remains that with this logic pattern, you're telling students that they can not drink water or use washrooms. This means that teachers are assuming that their students are lying to them. I can agree that going to lockers and doing out of classroom things unrelated to bodily functions is disruptive and a nuisance to long-term education, but if a student wants to use the washroom or drink water, it is maniacal to assume they want to do something else and deny or limit it as a privilege.

The reality is, if a student requests to leave the room continuously, either they actually need to use the washroom and are having medical issues, or your course is not capturing their attention, in which case, the teachers course plan and teaching methods should be under review, not the students right to pee.

queenweasley ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:33:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I had this in middle school, my mom pretty much told the school to fuck themselves and I could pee whenever I wanted

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:50:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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that1persn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:26:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I did sell some of mine for 2 dollars.

vellyr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:23:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, only white people have privilege.

SamStarnes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:08:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a history teacher like this. It was in the beginning of the school year and he had just finished explaining that we have 3 passes to the bathroom for the WHOLE semester. And of course, there's new germs around since everyone has come back and they were sick, I had to take a massive shit. Like I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have lasted another 40 minutes let alone 5 minutes. And the teacher actually asked "are you sure you want to use one of your passes this early in the year?"

I replied with "yeah, I'm just gonna go or would you rather me shit my pants RIGHT NOW" and ran out. He stopped with the pass limit after that. The best part is I only knew of the bathroom down 3 hallways (about 300ft away) and had no idea there was one right around the corner.

OneGoodRib ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:36:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's when you need one of those really bold students who will pee in the trashcan or say "Well I'm about to bleed through my pants, so if you don't want it to look like a fuckin murder scene in here, you better let me go, sir."

I don't understand what's up with limiting bathroom time that severely. I'm also surprised there aren't more reports of kids ending up with bladder infections because their teachers won't let them pee during the school day and there's not enough time between classes to go.

kalechipsyes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:16:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My school often had one boy's pass and one girl's pass per classroom, with the idea being that, as long as two girls or two boys were not out at the same time, no one would dawdle or get into trouble.

And then the inevitable happened.

notLOL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

1) privilege passes

2)

3) profit

2 usually involves hookers and blow in any good biography

ittybittybit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hey! I do that in my classes!

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:34:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that's when you tell them to go fuck themselves and go anyway.

christhedorito ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:45:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait, so what happens with people who have to pee a lot? I sometimes have to go four times during a 2 hour class, so I'd just piss myself if they didn't let me out!

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:40:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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bigben56 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:42:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yup and then some teachers would let you turn them in for extra credit.

that1persn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:47:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I never got the extra credit because I either used them or sold them.

Dear_Occupant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:14:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What happens if you just get the fuck up and walk out of the room? Like, are they going to stop you? "Ma'am, we've got two options here. Either I'm pissing in the bathroom where I'm supposed to or I'm pissing in your classroom. Either way, I've gotta go right now."

I don't know what your school district is like, but where I grew up the teachers would be fucked if it got out that they weren't letting kids use the toilets. Especially the girls.

that1persn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:28:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Probably sent to the deans and given a detention.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:15:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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AtheistAustralis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:19:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hate this so much. Kids who have gastro disorders (Crohns, IBS, etc), girls having their periods, kids who don't have great bladder control - they need to go to the bathroom when they need to go, regardless if it's 3 times in a semester or 3 times in a single class. Making them ration it out is just cruel. Yes, some kids might abuse the bathroom system, but it's pretty obvious when that's happening. As long as kids are letting the teacher know when they need to go, I don't see a problem. If the kid starts going to the bathroom twice every class, then you talk to the parents and ask what's going on..

that1persn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:29:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If a student does have a disorder like that, they would probably be able to go whenever they wanted. If they weren't abusing it.

Hoppy24604 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:09:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Piss on the floor

Bricka_Bracka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:10:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Hey teach, I'm gonna piss now. Would you rather it be on your floor, or on your desk?"

originalread ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:54:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow! If my memory serves me right, I only had like five per semester for all classes combined.

escalat0r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:57:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You should take a leak on his notes when your passes run out.

"Peeing is not a priviledge, you old fucker."

Ducttape2021 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:22:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is a golden opportunity to tell your teacher to check their privilege.

KitchenSwillForPigs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:20:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We had a log in our agendas where they would record the time and date and sign to let us go. This worked as a hall pass, but the idea was it also told the teacher if you were "going to the bathroom too often." I get there are shitty kids, but I don't understand why all kids are treated like criminals. Growing up, I only ever acted up when I was being punished for something I didn't do, which happens a lot in public school. If I am going to be punished, I will insist on deserving it.

_Eggs_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do the white cis-gendered males get extra privilege passes?

Alex2395 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like my old high school math teacher, he did the same thing. I used to write in pencil and reuse them.

Zerobeastly ยท 96 points ยท Posted at 05:13:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same for me. Then I started college where of course you just walk out of the room with no explanation and go to the bathroom.

I know that's actually totally normal and not weird at all, being an adult in college and all, but every time I just walk out it gives me slight anxiety, I always peak over at the professor waiting for him to be like "Where do you think you're going?!"

It's so weird.

getinmyx-wing ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 05:38:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This was completely my college experience. I never did get used to the fact that I could just... go. It didn't matter if it was my first class or my fourteenth, every time I walked out without saying anything, I felt just a twinge of anxiety and guilt.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:09:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Invisible fence.

vwguy1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:57:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a professor that really didn't like people leaving class unless the school was on fire, they were on fire, or their house was on fire or someone died. If you stood up he would interrupt the whole class and ask, "can I help you?" That guy ran his Ethics 302 course like communist Russia but I did end up being one of the 3 people in a class of 45 to get an A, the next lowest grade was a 73%

jdnoller ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:15:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One of my college professors said "We're all adults, we know how to hold our bladder. Either pee before class or after, don't go during my lecture." And if you got up to leave the class during her lecture, she would stop lecturing, follow you out into the hall and go into the bathroom with you or just tell you to come back to class. It only happened once as far as I can remember. She was a little weird. Also obsessed with horses...

Zerobeastly ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:56:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She makes a statement about everyone being adults, and then feels the need to follow them to the bathroom like they're 3?

There so many things wrong with that! I mean honestly, someone paying for the class, they could leave for no damn reason if they wanted to. Not to mention she wasted everyone's time and money, including hers, when she did that.

FineGameOfNil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:02:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a few college classes where attendance wasn't even mandatory save for exams.

BloodFartTheQueefer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:41:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can avoid all that anxiety by not going to class

_gina_marie_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same!

But if course we had one teacher who got mad that people had to pee so she locked the doors. If you left when it wasn't "break time" you would be locked out. That shit changed real fast when I beat on the door for about 5 minutes straight trying to get back in. I actually contacted the dean and she got into trouble since that's a fire hazard (as in fire rescue wouldn't be able to get in)

Built-In ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:21:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I just wait for a pause in the lecture then say "excuse me" to the professor as I stand up and exit quietly.

queefiest ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 05:12:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like that's a human rights violation. Some people have fucked up shitty bladders that don't have time for that shit.

getinmyx-wing ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 05:42:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have kidney disease, and holding my urine literally feels like my lower back is being lit on fire and stabbed simultaneously, yet MULTIPLE teachers told me, "if you needed to pee, you should have gone before class. Now sit down."

Actually, this didn't stop at high school, either. My last employer tried to write me up for 'frequent bathroom breaks.' I brought in a doctor's note from my (very pissed off) nephrologist the following day stating that I had a medical disease requiring frequent trips to the restroom and fluid intake, and by limiting these actions they were causing internal damage to my body. I was smug as fuck handing that over.

transandpans ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:34:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And even if we don't have shitty bladders, we ought to be able to go pee without being harassed. It's like teachers forget that we're still humans with normal bodily necessities during school.

LaLe33 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 05:07:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My eight grade English teacher never let me go to the restroom, no matter how much I begged... Even that time I was chewing on my gel pen and it busted in my mouth. We had just started "block scheduling" and she made me hold the ink in my mouth for 45 minutes! My teeth were blue for a week!

Cirvis ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:25:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck those teachers with a ten foot pole. I hope you told your parrents and got her in trouble.

frogger2504 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:19:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"You should have gone during your recess break."

Yep. I did. But that was like 2 hours ago and I've been chugging water since then.

I really don't miss school.

crazystarvingartist ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:29:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a couple of teachers like that, and I remember bleeding through a pair of my jeans once because I was not allowed leave to change a tampon/pad & had a heavy flow that day. I was mortified and had to call home after class before too many people saw.

Not every student asks to go to the restroom so they can just hang around; and even then, I'm not sure why some teachers care so much.

-Beth- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:52:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm pretty sure some teachers just like the feeling of power.

memonkey ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:06:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I once got shit on by a bird on the way to class. I was late but played it off real cool but when I got to class and asked the teacher if I could go to the bathroom to wipe it off she said 'wait til class starts'.

Detached09 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:15:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

oh hell no. I got shit on by a bird once, on my way into the restaurant, almost puked myself in the three feet to the door. I'd've happily taken the "late to class" mark even in elementary school to avoid being the kid that was pooped on then puked everywhere.

I walked into that fast food place with no shirt on, dry heaving, with tears in my eyes and didn't gaf what anyone else thought.

Dr_StrangeloveGA ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:28:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service" (Being pooped on by a bird might be an exception)

saltyladytron ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:40:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can't believe no one in this thread mentioned Shawshank Redemption!

Restroom break, boss?

You don't need to ask me every time you need to go take a piss. Just go.

(VO) Forty years I've been asking permission to piss. I can't squeeze a drop without say-so. There's a harsh truth to face: no way I'm gonna make it on the outside.

INSTITUTIONALIZED

Zentopian ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:42:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The thing my teachers always said to everyone was "You shoulda gone at recess/lunch."

Bitch, I did. I just hulked down 5 litres of liquid because of how god damn hot it is, and this class has been going for an hour!

Devilheart ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:21:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And I, somehow figured out in preschool that I had a natural right to take pee breaks without having to ask an adult. Got in trouble for leaving the class without the teacher's permission.

smokesinquantity ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:36:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly I'd just say fuck it and go anyways, what are they going to do?

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:40:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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smokesinquantity ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:43:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What a power trip lol.

bobbygoshdontchaknow ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:51:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

yep that was one of the coolest things about college, and felt really strange the first few times I did it, but you could walk out if the class at virtually any time and nobody is going to stop or question you

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:05:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That sounds like cruel and unusual punishment

lumpymattress ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:28:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My school was like that, but we did have ten minutes between classes so you have plenty of time to go then.

Assuming you didn't have to cross the school and go up three flights of stairs, that is.

Brandon4466 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:03:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep, some here too

xrainxofxbloodx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:54:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That kind of system drives me fucking nuts! I had a class that ws IMMEDIATELY after lunch, and the teacher said that if you went to the bathroom every time, she would call your parents and the school nurse to discuss "what sort of medical condition makes you need to go to the bathroom at 1:26 pm everyday."

She was one of my favorite teachers, but REALLY? It's right after lunch. That chocolate milk has gotta go somewhere!

mastersword130 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:55:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I got so many detentions and ISS for this. Also Saturday morning breakfast club style detentions. If I have to piss and shit I'm going regardless if they said no, me asking was just me being polight.

Stationjaguar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:56:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In my high school. We had a substitute teacher that never let kids leave. Untill the day he said no to that kid.

You know the one in every high school who always acts up. And while never diagnosed, everyone knows he's just a little "special".

Yeah the teacher said he cant leave to that kid. The kid proceeded to ask if he could use the trashcan. Sub said yes. And to his, and frankly everyone's horror. He then proceeds to piss in the trashcan. Then sits back in his desk like nothing ever happened.

After that. There was never an issue when someone asked to leave the classroom.

manlymann ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:59:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a teacher that has a board on the wall with all his students on it called "The Depends Club". Everytime someone went to the bathroom, they got a tick next to their name. Nobody wanted to be the leader of the depends club.

PotatoBucket3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:01:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm in high school right now. Of my 7 teachers, I have one teacher that lets us leave in the middle of class because since it's during lunch periods it's 5 minutes longer than other classes, and maybe 2 teachers that will let me leave during class. One of which teaches a really easy elective where it's not super important to be in class all the time.

arthur_figgis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:02:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's tough, man. As a teacher, I mean. Because you want to trust kids to go to the bathroom when they need to go, but if you're a too-trusting doormat, kids will go every single day and stay gone for half an hour.

I tell my students that, if it's more than once a week, they need to think about their between-class time use. I really try not to be a prick about it. But the reality is that there are kids who are content to abuse the shit out of bathroom policies.

Jacosion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:02:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Had one of these teachers. You better believe she had a few incidents every year.

Not by me. But there were always a few kids in her class every year that couldn't hold it.

gafftaped ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:05:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yup, that's how my school was too. I think it's pretty common because in a lot of my CC classes there's usually at least one kid who asks to use the bathroom at the beginning of a semester and has to be told that they can just go without asking.

Kordiana ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:06:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had the same thing. Until college, it was required to ask for permission to use the bathroom. If you didn't you got detention for skipping class.

When I got to college it felt REALLY weird to just get up and leave class to go to the bathroom. So I mostly tried to go before or after class, unless I really couldn't wait. And I still felt awkward.

docdarrel555 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:07:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Got a bladder/kidney infection, I know. Damn miserable shame

muffintaupe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:08:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And this is how I ended up vomiting all over the floor in the middle of class. Twice.

TinusTussengas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:18:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What about girls on their period?

senichi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:33:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Still nope until they explicitly said something, pretty much. Then the teacher would sheepishly let them go. It was actually a really big thing I heard complaints a lot about from my sister.

Oddly enough, as she told me, it was mostly the female teachers that tried stopping her as well. Almost never an issue with male teachers. Seems odd to me. You'd think they would understand.

TinusTussengas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:40:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Males can get scared if a girl talks about her period. Outside your knowledge and easyly labeled as a douchebag. Often it is other women treating women the worst.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:22:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Looking back, I should have stood up and gone to the bathroom whenever I needed to go. If they tried to confront me I'd ignore them until I got back. If they still made a huge scene over it I would have said "If you want I could have picked a corner in this class, of course I wouldn't be the one to clean it up :)". So many opportunities to make horrible teachers feel miserable and I never did.

siegewolf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:25:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If that was a rule I would have just pissed in a trash can.

SaffellBot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:27:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Someone needs to take one for the team and piss on the floor.

carcinogenicshitlord ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:33:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You just gotta piss in the bin and they'll think twice next time

FineGameOfNil ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:59:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a teacher try that shit on me and I took it up with the administration.

Rolendahl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:59:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I never asked though. I just told them "I'm going to the bathroom." If they said no I would say some smartass remark like "Oh so I can just go in that trash can right there? That's alright?" Or "Sure give me a detention and we can have a parent teacher conference about how you wouldn't let me use the restroom!"

Not many teachers liked me unsurprisingly.

nealxg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:03:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Had the same thing in high school. One day got up to head to the bathroom, teacher makes a big scene in front of the entire class , says I can't go, I tell her I can either continue on my way to the restroom, or can releive myself there in class, but one way or the other, it's happening. Never had an issue from her again.

Xenasis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:07:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God I hated this so much.

"You should have gone in your lunch break!"

"...but I did"

LordSwedish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:09:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is so weird to me. I don't even remember the last time I asked to go to the bathroom but I assume that I did in kindergarten.

ImJLu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:15:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What the fuck, man. At my high school we'd just get up and quietly leave so we didn't interrupt the teacher.

ittybittybit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:22:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's a teacher at my school that does this. She brags about it like somehow denying children access to the bathroom makes her the best teacher on campus.

netflixandchili ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:22:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was in high school, sometimes they would not allow bathroom breaks during the first 15 minutes and last 15 minutes of class, the reasoning being that the information was too important. I never understood what made that matter any more than the rest of the class period.

The good news is that college professors don't care.

awweaver ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:29:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's either I got on the floor right here in front of your desk or you let me go to the bathroom. Your choice, you have 10 seconds.

Mun- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:40:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have a lot of respect for my teachers and the lessons they taught, and I would always feel a bit reluctant to go even if I needed to because it meant I was missing out and I knew they didn't want me to, and actually cared.

dbx99 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:57:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've had such teachers. They said that there was sufficient time between classes to hit the restrooms. That part was true. But we were kids and we don't plan ahead. We'll go to class with a 80% full bladder and within 20 minutes, that bladder might hit 100%.

There were some who abused the bathroom excuse to get out of class so there's some basis behind the restriction.

polerberr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:31:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I went to a Catholic high school in Ireland where a lot of the teachers are power-crazy to an unhealthy and unreasonable amount. One teacher would not let my friend go to the bathroom, so my friend got out of her seat anyway and ran because she was bursting to go and didn't want to wet herself in class.

The teacher LOCKED my friend out of the classroom so that she would get in trouble for missing class.

Drama ensued and my friend was ready to sue. I don't remember exactly what happened, but I know my friend was let off the hook, and the teacher only got a light warning.

That school thought it was the shit because of their anti-bullying program and award winning choir, but it took me going to an international school with normal teachers to realize that the teachers in that school were fucking delusional.

mitamies ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:54:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One teacher in high school was very strict about going to bathrooms in middle of class. He said it is your own fault for not thinking ahead.

Once a girl was asking to be excused, like she REALLY had to go. The teacher being himself started lecturing about interrupting class. The girl pee'd herself as she couldnt hold anymore and started crying. The teacher ler her leave the class after that.

undrunkscotsman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:55:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Our highschool was kinda chill. Most teachers were fine as long as you gave them a heads up that you weren't just leaving school.

abstract_misuse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:56:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not a teacher, but I can imagine that after 25 years of listening to students trying to weasel their way out of class, you'd get a bit jaded about that sort of thing.

Breakfast-BAMF ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:12:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My high school was like this. Never had an issue until my period became a sudden and utter flood disaster each month. I had to go "change" every freaking two hours or I'd have leaks happen. One teacher was a dude and a complete douche canoe. I was sitting at my desk and could tell that shit was about to get real and got up with my bag to leave. "Where do you think you're going?! You're out of hall passes, sit down!" Argued tactfully for a second and then just whipped out a tampon like it was the sword of some fantasy fallen kingdom that would rewrite the scrolls of the world. I just stood there holding tampon up in air, he went red faced and just said go. So that was the end of that....

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:21:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep, I went to catholic school and on numerous occasions I remember telling teachers "either I'm pissing in the bathroom or I'm pissing in here, take your pick"

Orisara ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:25:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Teacher, can I go to the bathroom?"

"No....where are you going?"

"Ow, I was informing, I'm not asking permission to go take a piss here."

I mean, if teachers actually thought they could stop somebody from going to the toilet...

Zv0n ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:30:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"You've had recess, haven't you? If you didn't have to go then you can hold it for another 20 minutes!" ah yes, high-school, the place where they expect you to behave like an adult but treat you like a child

3lvy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:33:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What do they do if a kid pisses themselves then?

Seekeroftheloststorm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:34:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Our high school made us buy bathroom passes at the beginning of the year. If you didn't, you were not allowed to go to the bathroom at all.

samus1225 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:17:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Its always fun watching the college freshmen ask to use the bathroom and the prof tell them theyre adults noe

OneFlyMan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:22:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a teacher like that in high school, being as I was also in sports, I had to carry around a water bottle to start hydrated as well. If the water bottle was empty, the teacher was under instructions to let us refill the water bottle. So naturally, if I had to use the restroom, i'd just drink the rest of my water then ask to refill the bottle. Basically cheating the system.

MyNameIsSushi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:24:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's illegal where I live. Why the hell would something like that even be not illegal? That's crazy.

Zee__Rex ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:24:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I distinctly remember being in second grade and the school having a ridiculously strict bathroom policy. You could only go in the morning before class, during lunch, and after school. Unless, it was an absolute emergency, you couldn't go. Well, one kid did have an emergency, in front of the whole class. When the teacher asked him why he didn't say anything, he said he didn't want to get into trouble. They changed the rules after that.

venterol ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:37:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same, had an English teacher who would lock the door the second the bell rang and interrogate you about why you were late. I never felt bad saying I was in the bathroom (despite him trying to guilt-trip me), because I'm not gonna wait 45 minutes for the 4 minute passing period to take a piss when I have to be on the other end of campus for my next class. Either he can be halfway reasonable or appeal to the school board for longer passing periods.

Lokmann ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:46:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fun fact going to the bathroom is a human right so teachers that don't allow you to go are kinda breaking the universial decleration of human rights.

treosfnb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:47:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My school put in a rule that teachers could only let a max of 2 students a day use the bathroom and you could only let a student go once each week. They also didnt put any toilet paper or paper towels in the bathrooms, removed all the air dryers after one broke, and only kept 1 boys and 1 girls bathroom in the whole school open at a time. And they were confused when kids walked out of classes, toilets clogged from napkins from the lunchroom, bathrooms got broken into, and parents tried to sue.

jp_newman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:47:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had teachers like that as well. I told my mom about it one day after school and she told me that if I got refused to go (the reason for denial being illegitimate) to just walk out politely and go. I did so one day and the teacher wrote me up but the write up didn't make it past the vice principals desk and the teacher wasn't there the following week.

iAesc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:08:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Can I go to the bathroom, please?"

"You were on lunch break half an hour ago, you should have gone then."

"I didn't fucking need to go then."

bloomer3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:12:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A little late to the party but, high school teacher here. There is a difference between human decency and running a fair classroom. If a kid has to go I let them go with no issue. If that same kid is going every day and coming back 10-15 minutes later, they get shut down. Most of the teachers who won't let their students go are the teachers who have had this happen so much that they generalize it to try to keep their classroom fair and equal (although I disagree with this practice)

planeteclipse1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:27:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It only takes one brave soul to piss himself while making eye contact with the teacher to change their tune.

SoGodDangTired ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:31:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a teacher who claimed to be a biology major. She told that since we didn't wet the bed, and most of us slept around 8 hours, then we should be able to be in her fifty minute class without needing to use the bathroom.

Then we weren't allowed to go after 3, (our school got out at 3:42) or during the lunch period (4th period).

Most of the rest of the teachers were fine as you long as you didn't interrupt to ask.

daringjojo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:40:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had one that made you sign out to use the bathroom, and if at the end of the year you had not used the bathroom at all he would give you a full letter grade bump up. Dude was an ass.

TheStormlands ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:31:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One kid in college asked the teacher if he could use the restroom. I laughed a little, but then i realized school is just one big conditioning process to make you an obedient student who is on time.

kymreadsreddit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:33:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm teaching middle school this year and yeah, my kids have to have permission to go to the restroom. Because otherwise, they'd "have to go" everyday in the middle of class. They get one bathroom pass per week. If they come to me before class starts and say they really have to go, I'll usually let them because it's probably actually true instead of being an excuse to wander the halls for the next 5-10 minutes.

Lyn1987 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:37:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In our school they let you go to the bathroom but they locked all the bathrooms except the cafeteria. So if you needed to pass you had to run for. One end of the school to the other pee then run back.

This went on for three months before the fire Marshall made a 'surprise' visit and ripped the principal a new asshole

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:53:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not really up to date with the American schooling system but here there's a clear reason why some teachers won't let you go. Classes are only 50 minutes, so it's quite easy to abuse the situation and miss almost half of a class you don't like.

senichi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Classes in my high school were 83 minutes long.

rederister ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:56:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Luckily this never happened (I still have college though, so who knows), but I always told myself that if a teacher wouldn't let me go to the bathroom when I really needed to go that I would just leave the room and go.

tack50 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:58:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That was actually ALL of my teachers ever.

In primary (until like year 6) maybe they'd alow you if you asked, but after that? Forget it, you are old enough to be able to wait 40 minutes. They only allowed you at the very short span (5 min) between one teacher leaving your class and the next one going in

AnExoticLlama ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:01:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was so fucking glad that teachers during my senior year treated us as adults and on the honor system. If you have to go do something, go do it, just don't be an ass and skip by using the hall pass.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:26:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hell when I was in college, that was A learning point for the first weeks for all freshmen. Not raising your hand asking your professor to go to the bathroom

SinfulLad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:30:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's my school cuz fuck me are people in my class and other are the cheeky one. At least the teacher put 1 people only to go to the WC.

But some people in my class after a period, they just NOPE the fuck out before the teacher come. But they are aware so that's good.

Spoogly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:31:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a highschool where most of the teachers were against the policy, and would insist you just go. School policy was to ask, and a few teachers were sticklers for it. At one point, I went right before lunch, which made me late for lunch (another thing that is against the rules without a pass). A teacher that I didn't know stopped me, when I was walking in, bitched at me for being late, insisted that I couldn't come in without a pass, and told me to tell her my name. I said no, and went and sat down. Either she was dumbfounded that I just straight ignored her authority, or she realized she was being a total cunt, because she never once spoke to me again, and I faced no penalty for it.

I'm sorry, if I have to take a piss, you're going to fucking let me, with or without verbal and/or written consent. This is my body, not yours. It's probably going to be problematic that I feel that way, if I ever have kids, but it's the schools that need to change, so I don't give a shit.

JHutchinson1324 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:33:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had one of these too. One day after I was told I could not go to the restroom I very loudly announced that I was on my period and would need to sit in a chair without fabric on the seat then as I would be bleeding all over it. I was allowed to go anytime I asked after that...

hurshy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:37:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Professors are always telling us that we don't need to ask to use the bathroom despite what your high school teachers told you

justrun21 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:48:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same. Especially the male teachers would say this. It doesn't matter if your started your period, you should've planned for it! Tough, you can bleed in your seat and clean it up when class is over.

iceykitsune ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:56:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

until someone shits themselves.

_gina_marie_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:03:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My anatomy teacher did this until I flat out old him "frank I have to change my tampon or else I'll bleed on this chair here" he made the most disgusted face and then I left. Give me a fucking detention bro I'll go chat with the dean myself.

farlack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's also illegal.

RetroViruses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One student when told this, pissed in his pants at his desk, then walked home to change and stayed there for the day.
Was a baller. When you gotta go, you gotta go.

King_LBJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's illegal. I'm pretty sure it's an OSHA standard or something

fNU1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:02:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like child abuse to me.

I was the type of kid who'd get very angry at something like that and end up taking a piss right there or perhaps even on the teacher if they did that shit to me. I actually did that one time. As a cruel joke my father made me wear a diaper.

I still haven't learned. If anyone other than a cop tries to tell me to do or not to do shit they have no business dictating, I instantly lose my shit. Perhaps I have a mental disorder. Maybe anger management..

up48 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:28:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Which is so obnoxious.

Honestly the 5 minute break was spent by me rushing from the art building on the other side of campus to my locker to get my math book and then running down to your classroom, I did not have "all break to go".

Not to mention I actually can't control when I need to piss.

MazeMouse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:40:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had one of those. The "If I don't go now I will pee in the bin" threat works perfectly if you are daring enough to do it... (I was because it was the bin or my pants because there was no way I was making it to the toilets at that point)

"I told you I really NEEDED to go" was the line that kept me in school (suspended for 2 weeks) and he never pulled that shit again. They even made it a school rule you can go once per class. But all instances were recorded in the class-log by the teacher (class log was also used to keep attendance and one lucky SOB got to lug that thing around all week between all classes)

SaltySpirit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:45:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's when you piss on their desk.

SaintJimmy1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:04:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had teachers that counted me tardy for that day if I had to use the bathroom during class.

Kaiser_Kat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:09:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My 9th Grade science teacher gave all of us 10 bathroom passes on the first day of school. This was your entire year supply of bathroom visits. You run out, you better hope someone else is willing to give away one of theirs, or you're holding it. I personally never saw a problem with this, because this was the last class of the day for me and I always used the bathroom beforehand or just waited until I got home. In fact, in the two year I had her for a teacher (Earth Science, Biology), I never once used a bathroom pass myself. And there was a cool reward for that too, if you had some remaining by a certain point you could redeem them for homework passes. I never had all of them though, I gave my friend a few bathroom passes after he ran out and I pitied him.

Kalkaline ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:09:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's what trashcans are for, pee in there or have explosive diarrhea in there and the teacher will never make you wait to use the bathroom again.

Mattxy8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:21:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad told me if they don't let me go piss on the floor and let him deal with the teacher later

mangoestriedtokillme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:31:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This happened to me too. I got yelled at for asking to go after lunch. It happened again to my best friend's little sister. Her teacher wouldn't let her go and she said she had to go really bad and he still said no. She just sat there making eye contact with him and peed right in her chair. He got in so much trouble for that. Teachers eased up after that happened.

chattytrout ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:45:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In my high school, the rule from every teacher I remember was something to the effect of "If it's an emergency, just go. I don't want to clean that shit up."

notsostandardtoaster ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:51:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

almost all of my teachers throughout high school had the philosophy that "you're old enough to know if you have to fucking pee just go" and i am forever grateful

RiD_JuaN ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:41:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In highschool if i left to go to the washroom without asking my teacher I would get in huge trouble, is this abnormal?

BeCarefulNow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:42:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same :/

grandmoffcory ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:34:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You were allowed to leave whenever in high school? In my experience that wasn't a luxury you got until college. In high school you had to ask, and some teachers would refuse and tell you to wait until they decided it was time to take a ten minute break.

TheDoktorIsIn ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:34:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was a senior in high school and a teacher said "listen, I have nothing left to teach this week so do what you want. You're seniors and practically adults." So, I got up to go to the bathroom and got yelled at.

TheParagonal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:08:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Freshman last year in college. 2 or 3 different lecture hall classes still had kids asking to go to the bathroom...

Gaethan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:39:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait, you could leave the class to pee?

malcolmflaxworth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:06:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Which is its own bullshit.

if_you_say_so ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

High school students legally have to be under the supervision of an adult at all times during the school day. They aren't legally allowed to be responsible for themselves.

Onthtsidofredt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:08:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Basically but the teachers that teach upperclassmen seem to get more leeway. I don't remember having to ask all that much senior year compared to the previous 3 of hs

OdeToJoy_by ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:18:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I always found it weird that even in University most people were asking lecturers' permission to leave the auditorium. I never asked, if I needed to leave I just left, cause asking for a permission to exit (except for exams, as they have additional rules to prevent cheating and stuff) is not a request that can be denied - if I did ask and was told "No, you can't leave", I would still leave so why even bother asking then?

ThisIsMyRental ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:44:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That was the case for me all the way through high school as well. Hell, even now in college where if you need to piss you just head to the bathroom without disturbing the class I sometimes end up asking/telling the professor I need to use the restroom. That behavior's stuck very hard for me!

AlexanderBolwinkle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:47:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same, I had some teachers who were cool and didn't care but it was typically a school policy. We even had to sign our name date and time on a clip board and take it with us. It's absolutely ridiculous for the majority of kids, but it started to document kids who'd go smoke or skip class or fuck up the bathrooms. Which I guarantee the bullshit clipboard didn't help much, since I probably skipped classes 200+ times in high school only getting in trouble for a handful.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:56:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In my junior year I decided that asking for permission to use the bathroom is a formality that always ends with either an affirmative answer or detention. I wasn't interested in the answer. The consequences were entirely on them. I'm not holding it because some ass hole arbitrarily decided that I can't go to the restroom for five minutes.

Sqiddd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It varies by teacher for my school. Sometimes you can just up and leave and others you have to ask

DemonWing4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same, some teachers in high school cared (9th grade typically) after that they kinda just stared at you wondering why you were asking.

TheyUsedToCallMeJack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:26:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mine too, so one day they didn't give me and I pissed on my pants.

The fuckers never refused me not a single time more.

if_you_say_so ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:43:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They thought you were immature enough to use needing the restroom as an excuse to leave class, turns out you were even more immature than that.

Taliceuh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not a big deal for me, I NEVER went to public toilet unless it was extreme emergency (eg: school travel and didn't go to toilet for 4 days)...

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:48:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you being Frank?

pickadamnsoda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:08:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same even in high school in the bigger school, for some classes I need to ask still but in the smaller school I'm in now I just walk out.

Sugarpeas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:10:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dame. I even attended a community college course in the Summer that tried to implement this policy too. Imagine telling goddamn adults they have to ask to go to the potty, there were 30+ year olds in there.

smegmaroni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:11:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I made it all the way through high school without ever setting foot in a bathroom once. MY house is where all my pees and poops go.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'll make sure to teach mine to just go and ignore the teacher if (s)he ignore or denies him/her.

Who am I kidding I'm on reddit I'm never having kids.

110011001100 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We aren't even allowed to do so in college..

heptyne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Especially when they give you like 5 minutes between classes in order to piss and change out books at your locker, there would be many days where I would be floating.

wackgyllenhaal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My sister was denied use of the restroom in seventh grade, resulting in her peeing her pants at her desk. Traumatizing experience.

brettf123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:25:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In my high school it depended, some teachers had an open door policy as they did not want the entire class to be disrupted, one had the open door policy but you only got three a semester (his class was right after lunch period so there was no reason you should have to leave for the restroom)

Necramonium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:37:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

was in highschool from 1996 to 2002. we were never allowed to use the bathroom during class. really nice when you got the explosive watershit. one time a teacher who for some reason never liked me said i just had to hold it in or wear a diaper. told him that he either lets me leave or i start pissing in the trashcan. he said thst i didnt had the guts, i did. suspension was worth it.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:45:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same as when I was there, you wouldn't get a pass to go to the bathroom unless the teacher decided to take pity on you.

PM_ME_A_PM_PLEASE_PM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:49:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

College for me

joeystrunk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:58:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We weren't allowed to do it in high school either.

GandalfTheUltraViole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:24:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm a primary school teacher, kids have to ask to leave the room for any reason. Because if I don't know where all thirty of them are, and something happens to the one who slipped out while my back was turned, that's on me.

Also sometimes one will ask to go the toilet and I'll say no. The emotions play across their faces like a soap opera, it's great.

Siniroth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:26:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I plan to teach my son that no one else gets to decide when he has to go to the bathroom, try to wait for an acceptable time (when teachers aren't actively teaching, try to go before meetings and stuff at work, if you're in the military you're expected to go at appropriate times), but if you really need to go, just go

iSondre ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:26:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here. I remember starting college and getting this really confused and maybe irritated look from my teacher after asking if I could go to the bathroom. Ended up being yelled at after asking five times the first week.

-Mannequin- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:34:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I stopped asking to go to the bathroom in year 7. We had a teacher that wouldn't let you go unless you had a medical reason. Instead of asking, I just walked out. No one else should have control over your body.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:48:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep, I got "in trouble" once for going when a teacher said I couldn't, I said I was telling him I was going as courtesy, not asking. Soon after I quit the whole bullshit.

ilovemusic100 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:47:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My high school won't let kids go to the bathroom during the first and last 15 minutes of class. I don't really understand why but I guess it's so kids don't mess around and just stand in the halls?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:37:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This.

"I need to go to the toilet"
"You could have gone at break"
"Do you even have a concept of time you fucking moron? Break was a fucking hour ago you schizoid cunt. I'll fucking rupture your anus with my MASSIVE BEAR COCK"

At least, that's what we ALL wanted to say. Though the actual response was
"Ok :("

BadGoyWithAGun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:49:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What the fuck? Never mind the public humiliation, what are you supposed to do if she says no, take a shit on her desk?

Pyramid9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:50:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is the way of subtle psychological indoctrination imprinting.

apdea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:58:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We have to ask to go bathroom for years and month later we have to make our own life decisions.

thekian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:08:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If they said no, they would just threaten to leave anyway and the teacher just says "fine"

nik263 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:13:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a teacher like that when I was 8,wouldn't let me go so I told her I'd pee myself if she didn't let me out. She remained adamant,I peed standing next to her and she went through hell for it(had to clean up and deal with my parents). Needless to say she never said no to a toilet break again.

wittlemermaid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:23:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh god, I was so embarrassed when I asked to go to the bathroom in my first college class and the professor was like, "You know, you don't have to ask...you're an adult, just go."

Pronounta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:24:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You were allowed to leave the class without authorization?

I'm gonna attend to 11th class of a german Gymnasium and I'm not allowed to...

Well, we could, no one would hold us off, but it wouldn't really be a good idea. Worse grades n stuff.

walruz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:45:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Which is, of course, bullshit. What do they expect you to do if they say no, shit on the floor? (inb4 get schwifty)

Chooseday ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:03:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm so glad I went to high school in the UK. We just got up and left.

tacknosaddle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:05:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Somewhere on here a while back I read a story about someone who was a freshman in college and raised their hand to ask the professor to use the bathroom.

Gneissisnice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:08:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, we can't exactly have students just get up and leave to walk around the school, we have to at least know where they're going.

It's also extremely frustrating to have the same students miss 10 minutes of your class every day because they "have to" pee. That's how they fail. I told students that they could only go if it was an emergency, so of course every situation became an emergency.

Kids wandering around the halls in class became such a problem that we had a "no pass" list for students that had been caught abusing bathroom passes or been chronically late to class. If they edged to use the bathroom, we had to call for a hallway escort.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:19:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It wasn't until my final year in secondary school that some teachers began to lax the permission rule. Makes it hard to shake when you go to Uni.

RegularWhiteShark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:28:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It carried on in high school for me. And even then, there was no guarantee the teacher would actually let you go - although, as a girl, I could pull the 'time of the month' excuse and usually they'd relent.

In primary school, my sister wasn't allowed to go to the toilet and ended up wetting herself (she was about four). It's ridiculous.

I'm in college now (not the American university; a British college/sixth form) and I still ask teachers to go to the toilet, even though they're fine if we just say "Just nipping to the loo."

AtomisUup115 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:33:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm a bit late to the party, but in second grade I had a teacher who wouldn't let me go to the bathroom so I ended up pissing my pants in her class. And that's not even my worst experience with her.

ctindel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:34:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Did you go to Shawshank highschool?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:49:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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ctindel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TheTrackPadUser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:57:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think every school does this. Even in Australia.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:04:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In elementary and middle we always had to ask and then fill out this paper and get a pass. Fast forward to high school and they told us to 'just go' as long as they weren't in the middle of teaching.

Dumplingman125 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:13:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep, I never understood that. I lived overseas in elementary school, and we were allowed to get up and go to the bathroom whenever. After moving back to the US, all through middle and high school we've had to ask for permission.

UseApostrophesBetter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:34:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It was always hilarious to watch those first freshmen in college raise their hand and ask the professor to go to the bathroom, or better yet, gasp the first time a professor casually said "fuck".

originalread ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:52:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This drove me nuts in middle and high school. I'm sorry, I just can't go when there are other people in small bathrooms. Luckily, I just used the library bathroom most of the time in HS. My daughter will be taught, if you got to go, go. Be respectful and try to go between classes but no one has the right to prevent you from doing a basic biological need. The day I get a call from school telling me that she disobeyed her teacher to go to the bathroom, will be a very proud day for dad.

nlpnt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:57:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's axiomatic that high school seniors are expected to make major decisions that'll affect how they spend the next 50 years of their working lives, and to ask permission to use the bathroom.

GeekyMathDad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:06:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My students, especially the girls, constantly thank me for my bathroom policy. I have a pass by the door. If you need to go, get up, get the pass, make sure I see you (it's a legal issue that I know where you are) and just go. Please don't interrupt my class to ask; that's ridiculous. I also don't question when girls bring their backpacks. Some of my colleagues do; I assume they have need of something in there.

This makes things easier for everyone. We had a teacher, since retired, who permitted one bathroom trip per quarter. Absolutely ridiculous.

toxicgecko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:27:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

with younger kids it may be a safeguarding thing. My students are aged from 4 to 7 and we have no issue with them going to the toilet at all, but we like that they tell us so if we do a headcount and come up short we know they're in the bathroom, also if they're in the bathroom for say 30 minutes we know where they are to check if they're okay.

No real excuse for older students though, I hated that shit in high school. Especially as an owner of a uterus.

GarbledReverie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:39:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My first class in college was an 8am, Monday, 101 level class. Halfway through someone asked if they could leave to use the bathroom and the professor just stood there for a moment bewildered.

He apparently hadn't made the connection yet that this would likely be the first college level class anyone in the room ever had taken.

So he took a moment to get everyone's attention and explain that as an adult, no one in college needs to ask permission to leave the room.

its_oliver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:48:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I always laugh at this fact. We ask kids who can't pee without asking to choose what college majors they want to have and thus what direction their lives will take.

Jay_Highland ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:08:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I just got up and left if I needed to. Asking is more disruptive than sneaking out to go to the bathroom.

imminent_riot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I went to a weird private school... they made us sit there and wait until an aid told us we could go and then we had to sign a sheet on the fucking door that said what time we went and what time we came back.

driveonacid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I get so annoyed when my students feel that they need to interrupt me to go to the bathroom. The bathroom is right across the hallway. We don't have hall monitors. Just sign out on the door and fucking go. I've occasionally had students who will use the sign for "bathroom" and just wait for my head nod when they need to go. But, so many feel the need to interrupt me.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:02:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I remember my first college class. I raised my hand to ask to use the restroom. Everyone in the room stared at me like I was an idiot, sooooooo never did that again!

Urbanscuba ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:20:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Those technically were the rules in my highschool as well but there were no hall monitors or anything like that.

It basically only applied in the remedial and base level classes. AP, honors, anything high level as well as any of the technical classes you didn't really need to ask. AP classes tried to act like they were college classes and shop classes figured if they trusted you with a table saw or car lift then they trusted you to walk down the hall.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:27:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This was the same at my school. While they allowed you to go to the bathroom when you asked, if they let you just go whenever, the vast majority of the class would randomly leave and never come back.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:47:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In highschool, we had to learn which teachers let and which didn't. What was retarded.

dorkdiariesisforboys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My math teacher last year only gave us bathroom passes once per quarter/term. Basically you could only excuse yourself from the class to go shit four times in the entire school year.

Doctah_Whoopass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:31 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The only issues I've seen at school were people asking to go like 10 min after class started, or in the middle of an important lecture. My teachers would usually say "Please hold it until there is a more appropriate time" if you asked in a lesson. If break just ended, most would chew you out a bit and maybe let you go (because you coulda gone during break). Fortunately for me, I only had to use the bathroom like 4-5 times during my entire time in HS.

Captain_Blunderbuss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i remember when i was a kid i told the teacher i need to pee and she said "you just had lunch time you should have gone then" which is a stupid thing to say because usually the urge to pee just appears and i'm not aware of my future need to pee so i ended up pissing myself while sat at my table so i was in a real mess and incredibly ashamed, i told my mom at home time why i was wearing shorts from the spare pants box and she threw a shit storm which basically forced the school to take action, got justice in the end but i always have a deep hatred for teachers that have no compassion for their pupils.

KenuR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:08:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Had the same experience, peed myself on a test in 3rd grade. My dad said he was going to sort this out but never actually went.

mydearwatson616 ยท 1557 points ยท Posted at 01:38:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I still do this. I need direction in my life. That's why I moved my family to Jonestown.

[deleted] ยท 900 points ยท Posted at 02:08:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

UnexpectedJonestown

1P221 ยท 861 points ยท Posted at 02:44:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The food sucks but I hear the drinks are to die for!

macthecomedian ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 05:00:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have a great Jonestown joke but the punchline is way too long.

1P221 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:28:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I chuckled

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

goddammit...

theoreticaldickjokes ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 03:43:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Damnit. Go stand in the corner.

Edit: why are so many of you peeing in the damned corner?? Stop that!

First-Fantasy ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 04:35:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

UnexpectedBlairwitch

MISREADS_YOUR_POSTS ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:02:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow you just dropped the MAAAHIIIIIIIKE

UrsulaMajor ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:04:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

im just gonna fuckin piss in the corner anyway

fuckitx ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:01:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just don't pee in it.

Fade2Moo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:01:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He's just gonna piss in it

probablyhrenrai ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:19:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fine, but I'm not drinking the Kool-aid.

Imperium_Dragon ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:37:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Even Congressmen love it!

four024490502 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:19:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Since when did Kool-Aid come out with a bitter almond flavor?"

themindlessone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:25:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Scent.

Weep2D2 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:47:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So much cyanide so much happiness.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:27:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ha ha...

SirRogers ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:43:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Try This One Weird Trick to make a Killer Pitcher of Kool-Aid!

-Buzzfeed

IDrankTheKoolaid78 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:01:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is my username relevant now?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eh... no.

dynamite1985 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:33:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

slow clap

bolognaSandywich ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:39:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm gonna make an alternate account to give you 2 upvotes......(I lied, that seems like a lot of work)

RadarLakeKosh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:58:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I dunno, they use Flavor-Aid instead of going the extra 75ยข for Kool-Aid, so it can't be that great...

ilovebulldogs1247 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:43:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're preaching to the choir!

DavidRandom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:07:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
dangersewagelagoon2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:03:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I would make another Jonestown joke, but the punchline is too long.

SLy_McGillicudy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:04:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:09:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I totally expected it though. So, yeah.

ChemicalKid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:16:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:19:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you...

Reddit needed this...

Durbee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:39:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Unexpected Shawshank, more likely.

UnexpectedJonestown ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is now a novelty account.

drinkthecoolaid ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:48:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You'll love it.

Soddington ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:17:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Beautiful placement.

PopsicleIncorporated ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:35:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I read this, upvoted, scrolled down, and then about ten seconds later had a WTF moment and scrolled back up.

Imperium_Dragon ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:37:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Did not expect Jonestown.

SD__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:53:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is it easier to pee there? Perhaps you live on the outskirts and pee in.

CM1288 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh wow! A Jonestown joke!

My favorite story about Jonestown is the one my dad tells about how he got mixed up and got to see all the filled coffins from it in one place!

Edit: my fat fingas hit da button

SirRogers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Kool aid story

scruffmagee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:37:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

TBH you can pay women to control you like this. Would be cheaper... and... you know... the koolaid is not poisoned

gregsting ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:09:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I usually send an email to my boss with subject "Urgent: pee"

TaylorS1986 ยท 75 points ยท Posted at 04:20:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think he learnt it in preschool

This just made me realizing how disturbingly authoritarian it is how our schools drill into little kids heads that they need to get permission to go to the bathroom. There are so many stories about little kids who piss themselves because they have a horrible, power-tripping teacher who doesn't let them go to the bathroom.

There is a big push now of emphasizing the idea of bodily autonomy to kids as a way of stopping sexual abuse, but yet kids still have to ask permission to relieve themselves.

Kylynara ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 04:35:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I see your point, but imagine yourself trying to keep track of 30 6 year olds, who pop in and out of the room at will to use the bathroom. Add in my 5 year old who suddenly needs to go to the bathroom as soon as it's time to something he doesn't want to (or he's hungry) and I am sure is not the only kid to discover this trick. I'm not entirely sure what the solution is, but I definitely understand why it's the norm.

MyMartianRomance ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:03:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

High Schoolers use that trick too. And it gets annoying when you actually need to pee and one of your classmates is taking 20 minutes to "go to the bathroom".

Ours also went back to if a drill was called, they need to know the location of students. Also with the bathrooms they had problems, mainly in the guys, with people vandalizing the bathroom, so we were supposed to write down when we left the room for those reasons.

impossiblefork ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:08:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But if people want to be alone and think or something for 20 minutes, then what is the problem?

Why not just give them privacy and let them be?

birkbyjack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are there places where yu don't need a signed pass to go to the bathroom

OneBigBug ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 04:56:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not entirely sure what the solution is

Not having 1 adult in charge of 30 children probably wouldn't hurt.

prefix_postfix ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:10:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, but now you're looking at a much bigger problem, which will lead to even more and bigger problems. As a problem solver, this excites me, but as a caring human, I wish it were so much simpler.

Dear_Occupant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:22:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haha I wish more school administrators shared your enthusiasm for ironing out a proper set of rules.

TaylorS1986 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:46:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've heard of some elementary schools that have toilets in the classrooms of the younger grades.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:31:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Dear_Occupant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:29:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'd wager that every person bashing on teachers in this thread has also had teachers they love and don't think of in this way. It's just the bad teachers who are catching shade in here.

doublefudgebrownies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:16:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

People could watch their own kids until they are fully potty trained in public. Oh wait, not send them to school until 7? How savage.

Asteria_Nyx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:06:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a kindy teacher I just send them in in groups of 3 since there's only 3 toilets in most rooms. Otherwise they just mess around in the sinks and have little chats by the toilet.

SirWinstonFurchill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:15:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And also, how easily 4 year olds are distracted, and if they think they don't like something you need to work on them with in class, they'll just leave and wander around aimlessly. And I just have 9 of them to manage, I can't imagine the chaos that is 30+.

Oh! And when one has to go, their friend has to go too, and then you'd wind up with an empty class as all the kids play in the bathroom. That's why I have a one at a time policy.

impossiblefork ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:47:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm imagining it and I don't see why it would justify something so obviously harmful. We're seeing people so conditioned that they end up asking for permission to go to the bathroom. I mean, how would you fuck someone up more than that?

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:13:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

At that age it makes sense. The teacher needs to know where all the kids are. It shouldn't be about permission. Any age over eight is just cruel.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:32:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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TaylorS1986 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:52:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fair enough!

smooth_operation ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:07:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Aside from kids abusing a free to go any time system, knowing where all the kids are at all times is also a great way to stop sexual abuse.

jeeluhh ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:23:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Preschool teacher here, they do the same to me, and I tell them to just go! I have a kiddo who would cry during nap time if he woke up and had to pee, it took months of me telling him not to ask before he would. Kids are just odd.

MyAnusBleedsForYou ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:49:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is your 4 year old Morgan freeman?

LordScolipede ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:52:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Highschooler here, I don't wait for the go ahead, I just rush to the bathroom, but if one of the 'rents is in my immediate vicinity, I'll just quickly say I'm going to pee out if force of habit. It's so ingrained into you that it's nigh impossible to unlearn

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:48:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's like when I used to raise my hand to talk to my mom.

TrixieDawn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:24:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you have to go potty stop and go right away!

Flush and wash and be on your way.

turtlefacethecat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had that episode on repeat for a good month.

doublefudgebrownies ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:15:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is some of the worst tv aimed at kids I've seen in years. Not only does it assume all kids are stupid, it tries to provide comfort and affection that should come from human beings. Raise your kids, people! Don't let tv be a parent. It never ends well.

turtlefacethecat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:00:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's a Daniel tiger episode for this.

If you have to go potty, stop and go right away...

I sing it to my 3 year old sometimes as a reminder. :(

ID10-T ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:47:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My 5-year-old does this IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. Comes into my room, shakes me awake, "Daddy, Daddy, Daddy, I have to go pee."

What the fuck. "OK, go pee. Do you need help or something?"

"No."

Kill me now, I'm not cut out for this dad shit. "Why are you telling me, then, just go pee, dammit!" So he does.

He is 100% capable of turning on the bathroom light, using the toilet without so much as a stray drop, flushing, washing his hands, turning off the light, and going back to bed. He goes to the bathroom all day long without asking permission or telling anyone. Why in the name of all that is holy does he think he has to awaken me to announce his intention void his bladder at night?

mwch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks for adding a new fear to me. My 3 year old goes on his own. And probally start preschool in a month. Then he will have to ask all the time after

phoenician10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Preschool teacher here, most preschool classrooms age two & up have restrooms inside the classrooms so the children always have access to them. Because of the legal issues that could arise from not allowing kids to use to bathroom, we always encourage the students to use the restroom whenever they want. Believe me its very annoying when one kids gets up to use the bathroom during circle time & suddenly five others ones decide they want to go too. However we never restrict them or make them ask cause we don't want to be responsible for accidents. From my experience some kids will "ask" to go to the restroom every time (even when its free play) & some never ask. I think the ones who do ask are more just informing me they're going rather than really asking for permission. So it really depends on how independent the kid is & if they feel comfortable going to the restroom without an adult knowing.

nonyface ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mine too. Every. Single. Time. Just go!!

Blast338 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My son who is also 4 does that. Just go already! You don't need to ask. Just go.

TexanDreamer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is normal for them regardless of schooling. They'll outgrow it.

Source: nanny

Cressio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Luckily some schools are starting to move away from asking but some still require it. Pretty bad rule to teach people to not listen to their body

Throwzway2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I still announce to my guests when I have to go dooky. It just stopped being a question and more of an announcement and warning.

funktopus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My four year old does this too, but only at night. During the day he will announce his intentions and then go. At night, he will yell from his room about needing to go to the bathroom. We tell him every night before bed to just get up and go. Sure enough he'll yell 25 minutes later.

ihatethesidebar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm 20 but I feel like I must do this tomorrow.

Askesis1017 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:13:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Careful what you say. Before you know it, he will piss his pants cause tou said "just go"

HectorChavezVO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My son does the EXACT same thing haha

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just try don't give him the go ahead one time and see how he reacts.

ScaryBilbo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

but what happens when me and my kid are at the grocery and he just wanders off to go pee and next thing i know hes behind me squatting over a mop bucket eating a banana, because he was just hungry too

Jacosion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Next time he tells you that he has to pee, just say "ok".

If he gets the hint and goes by himself, great.

If he pees himself, put him in time out, or however you punish him for bad behavior.

Once he realizes that he will be punished for peeing on himself, he will learn to just skip the middle man and go.

Aduke1122 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:03:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My 7 year old still looks for my approval bf going to the bathroom , he finds it necessary to tell me every time he has to go and I actually have to say "well go to the bathroom then " lol

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:08:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think he learned it from Shawshank.

spambat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:10:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I live and work in Japan, one of the "classrooms" (in a shopping mall) under the company I work for has a two little toilets and the kids have to ask, in English "May I go to the toilet, please?" every time.

I'm like "YESOFCOURSE" everytime. The other teachers will make them try again if they don't say it right. Makes me mad.

The only time it's relevant is if it's in the middle of a lesson or lunch time. Play time? Who cares.

LeviAEthan512 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:11:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's a dangerous way to put it. He might literally 'just go' right there and then

Stove-pipe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Like that scene in Shawshank redemption, with the old man who was released from prison, one of the saddest moments in the movie.

ax0r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wish my 4 year old was like that. Instead he will deny having to piss or shit until he's blue in the face, dancing around on the couch squeezing his butt cheeks together and ripping the most obnoxious farts. "Son, you need to go to the toilet". "I DONT NEEEEEED TOOOOOO!!!!". 10 seconds later, piss on the floor....

LonePaladin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:26:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wish my 4-year-old, just once, would say this. I'm currently having to direct him (and supervise) to take a potty break every hour, on the hour. And he still has accidents. It's driving me bonkers.

FalseTongue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Learnt it in preschool....

clomjompsonjim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:50:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm a manager, had a new guy on my team at work (we work in an office). This poor guy on his first day asked me if he could please go to the bathroom. For some reason this was one of the most awkward moments of my working life. I was like you're a goddamn adult you don't need to ask to go to the bathroom. I felt like I had way more power than I was comfortable with.

ArcboundChampion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:52:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My students will ask for permission to show up on time (this is in China). One day, I almost lost it and was like, "HEY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ASK PERMISSION TO BE ON TIME. JUST WALK IN." They were all stunned like, "Wait, we can just... walk in?"

For clarification, traditionally, students stay in a single classroom in China and the teachers rotate between them, so the whole changing classes thing is fairly new to them.

ReadyThor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:52:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't worry he'll grow out of it. At school asking for permission and giving a reason why you want to go out of class is important. Mainly because the teacher is legally responsible for his students during lesson time even when they're out of the classroom. Keep in mind that even the teacher would have to ask for permission and give a valid reason to the administration to get out of class during lesson time.

Loving-love ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Have the same issue with my 3 yr old, it's generally fine until I have been blocking him out because he is being annoying and he asks if he can go to wee and I haven't heard him, nearly had a few accidents!

purplecupcake788 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:15:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My 6 yr old is the same, he always asks, apparently it's because school have to know where he is if there's a fire, so he presumes it's the same at home!

Zombiepineapple ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's in their heads from a young age. They get told to ask from Kindergarten and even younger. Kids most of the time know full well that they can just go but they feel off about it because of what they have been taught. It's like when your at a friends place and there is a bottle of drink. You know they bought it to be had but you can't shake the feeling to just ask before you pour a glass.

nerdyjoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:33:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Random anonymous internet stranger tip:

My girlfriend works with autistic children, and some of them don't do things they want to do unless they're told. In particular, there was one child that wouldn't eat anything unless told, "You can take a bite."

I'm not saying your kid is autistic, but if you have suspicions from other parts of their life, maybe get them checked out? Best of luck!

EvilEpicPanda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:34:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Before my son even went to preschool he would do that all the time, not sure where he picked up on it.

squigs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:37:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe try the Socratic method.

"What's stopping you from going to the toilet"

But I guess he'll grow out of it.

ZipperDoDa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:57:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Give them a printed badge that allows them bathroom rights.

PrEPnewb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:14:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe he'll stop if you just make him piss his pants.

Pintash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:18:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They grow out of it. My 6 year old had a lot of weird little idiosyncrasies like that (still does). They come and go.

The best one was when i tried to explain the 10 second rule to him (If you drop food on the ground you have 10 seconds before its not ok to eat). He interpreted that as having 10 seconds to eat whatever he dropped in its entirety. There were tears, often, and it took a few mobths before we convinced him he misunderstood. It was always: "no, you said."

thisiswhyifail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:05:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I teach 4 and 5 year olds for 40 minutes everyday and it feels like an eternity. These kids ask before they do anything and everything. "May I start?" "May I stop eating?" And saying "Yes you may all start." doesn't work, they'll all still individually ask. It is haunting.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:36:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"If you have to pee, just go!"
"You have to pee, just go!"
"Have to pee, go!"
"Pee, go!"

Congratulations, you now have an incontinent son.

tijaya ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:46:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is all my little brothers (well two of them, 5 & 3)

farfaraway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:52:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My twenty month old will just hop up and declare "pee pee! pee pee!" and dash off to the bathroom.

Then again, half the time she'll just stand there and piss all over the floor.

Ahhh, the joys of parenthood.

micromoses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:59:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep. You sent your kids to the only place in the world where you need permission to go to the bathroom in order to prepare them for "the real world. "

Well, not the only place. There's also prison.

Crocoduck_The_Great ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:02:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My 4 year old tells us she needs to go, but, unless we are not at our or a relative's house, she just goes to the bathroom after telling us. She doesn't wait for permission unless we need to go with her.

justinmypants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:23:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mine too! Even in the middle of the night, he'll come wake us up to get our approval.

Kandarian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:38:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My 3 year old sometimes does this and she's never been in preschool. I think it's because she has to ask for a lot of other things at home (snacks, TV, to go outside) that she sometimes defaults to asking for the toilet as well.

kitty_hawkins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:49:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My son does this too and just a few months shy of four. I don't understand it because he hasn't started Pre-K yet so it's not a carry over from school. He'll run out of his room yelling "I've got to pee/poop!" hopping up and down, and every time we tell him to just go. He doesn't need us for any part of it so it doesn't make sense unless we are at a store.

Stormsoul22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:11:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I remember doing the same. It is very much a school thing.

argieintheboro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:25:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This reminds me of Red in The Shawshank Redemption "Can't squeeze a drop without say-so"

Browncoat23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:36:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was in preschool my teacher thought I went to the bathroom too much, so the next time I asked to go she said "no." I took that to mean I wasn't ever allowed to go to the bathroom during class. She did not have a fun time explaining to my parents why I'd peed my pants that day.

OhioMegi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:41:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I taught prek for 15 years. In most classrooms, there is a bathroom right there. It took forever to get some kids to just go. I tell them from day one don't wait so long you're about to wet your pants! If you need to go just say "I have to go to the bathroom" and go. I think a lot of the time they are afraid if they stop playing and leave, someone will take their spot. So I also made the rule that if someone is in the bathroom, their spot is saved.

SluggishJuggernaut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:01:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mine is 6. Still does this. BATHROOM LITERALLY 6 FEET AWAY.

KixStar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:11:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My 6-year-old doesn't need permission, but we can't break him of announcing "I HAVE TO POOP/PEE" every time he goes to the bathroom. Dude, we don't need to know.

Stmpnksarwall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:23:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My 3 year old, same. "Mommy I need go PEEEEEEE!" Just go, already!

ihateShowHoles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:56:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Because we had to ask permission up into high school, when I went to college I raised my hand and asked permission. The teacher told me i didn't have to... Pretty embarrassing

tortilla11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:02:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Absolutely learned in school! In first grade I had to use the bathroom so I waited for my teacher to finish explaining our worksheet then raised my hand to ask. Kept being told "I'll get to you in a moment," as she went around helping the students that needed the fucking worksheet explained more thoroughly. Peed my pants sitting at my desk. My mom was furious that the school system had taught me to forgo my own actual need in order to follow the rules.

LeafyQ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And he's going to be forced to ask to go for the next 13 years while he's in school/prison. No point in trying to break the habit now.

olosh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have a similar situation with my 8 year old. When I am reading her bedtime story she often asks permission to use the bathroom, but I always act shocked, refuse and insist she piddle right where she is. (Of course she laughs and goes to the bathroom). I think they must have taught her to ask permission at her new school.

ctrl-alt-acct ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:06:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mine's been doing it since she potty trained. We did the naked method, so her first experience peeing in a toilet was needing to pee, not having a diaper to do it in, and not knowing where to go. She'd announce "I need to go pee!" which was fine because that's how we knew to take her to the bathroom. So she got to the point where she announced every time she had to go, and then... waited for someone to take her (and to be fair, in public she does still need someone to go with her). That just became her understanding of how going to the bathroom works - tell a grown-up you need to go, and wait for them to take you. She's gotten better about going by herself partly through necessity (if she has to pee at night and everyone's asleep) and partly through me tricking her by saying "go ahead, I'll be right there" and taking my time showing up to help her wipe. She starts pre-k tomorrow so I've spent the summer getting her to wipe herself too.

Kallisti50253 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:47:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm a preschool teacher and the kids are forever doing that. We have a bathroom in the classroom, just go!

MacadamNumber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In preschool I remember how teacher were angry at us just because we went to the toilet.

My mom eventually knew. That was the reason she put me in another preschool. Remember I was only 3, and that.....I was 3. 3 year olds also have to pee

Samisapirate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Peed myself in 3rd grade because my teacher wouldn't let me go to the bathroom because we were taking a test... That I was done with and had already handed in. She was not a nice lady.

StrawberryR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:59 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I used to ask to go to the bathroom, and for some reason always thought I had to ask until my parents said I can just go whenever I needed to. I don't know how I got it in my head I had to ask.

datmamathere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:07:11 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's like some kind of 'jailhouse mentality' or something teachers get off on, not letting kids go to the bathroom. I had a history teacher in 11th grade who was a damn racist who wouldn't let anyone she didn't like go to the bathroom. Once when I started, my sister had to come and check me out because I would faint sometimes. This bitch wouldn't let me go to the bathroom or the office, and by the time she finally did, halfway there I passed out and hit my head in the lockers, and all the office staff was staring at me when I came to. I told them what happened but nothing was ever done to that bitch.

Famixofpower ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had TSSs (therapeutic staff support) who would complain if I didn't ask before going, and one would criticize how often I would go. It was kind of hard to unlearn, but it was easier to learn to give no fucks about them when my most recent (and last) was a complete and udder asshole.

Emmia ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:42:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I imagine someone called a "therapeutic staff support" should not be the person who should be criticizing someone for having to go to the bathroom.

Famixofpower ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:43:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly the point. The reason I had them was because I had Aspergers

[deleted] ยท 318 points ยท Posted at 00:45:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had similar experiences, but to me, it always felt like whenever I didn't ask someone, they'd get upset that I didn't check with them first and that they couldn't find me.

Granted, I was just a small child, but there were some conflicted messages in there.

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:46:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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Built-In ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:26:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel that's polite and smart. "Going to the bathroom." But that's completely different from asking.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:07:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, we'd get lectures if they couldn't find us in the house either. Because we'd always go to the bathroom at the exact moment they'd need us to get ready for something, or they'd call us for dinner, etc. Hence why we got in the habit of letting them know/asking to go to the bathroom regardless. But like I said, this was when I was much younger and less responsible, and it's been trained out of me now. In a public place or event, I'd definitely make sure people know where I'm going, but I no longer ask, thankfully.

afakefox ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:41:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nothing pissed me off more than, for example, my elementary school music teacher, being a little kid and asking "Can I please use the restroom?" and him always saying "I DONT KNOW, CAN YOU?" I didn't even understand that he was, I guess, correcting a 5 year old's grammar ("may I please, etc...") and then would just stare at me not saying anything until I looked away then going on with his bullshit singing or whatever. After that, for years in elementary school I was too afraid to ask any teacher I didn't know well or ask before to use the bathroom.

Durbee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:42:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

/r/raisedbynarcissists might be of interest to you.

Zack1018 ยท 660 points ยท Posted at 01:29:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haha just this week I asked my supervision if I could go to the bathroom out of habit I guess and he was so confused "sure? I'm not going to stop you" he's 22 and I'm 20 and I just realized how ridiculous that habit is as an adult.

Amberleaf29 ยท 206 points ยท Posted at 04:21:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lol I've done that this entire summer at my summer job to this one guy. Basically if you're working at either of the two processes in his area, you're good to go at any time because he can cover them both. I'd always ask, "Is it cool if I go to the bathroom right now?" because I like to make sure he's not busy or w/e, but I guess he felt that was unnecessary because one time he finally just laughed at me and went, "You don't have to ask, you know! Just let me know you're going." Well, I know that, but... agh! I didn't explain myself, just went to the bathroom in shame, and started just excusing myself after that with, "I'll be right back!"

I'm 20. Apparently elementary and high school ingrained this mindset in me. It's so hard to shake!

[deleted] ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 05:22:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

yeah i hate that shit. I'm not asking for your permission, I'm asking you if this is a convenient time for you for me to step out for a second.

Amberleaf29 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:45:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes!!! Exactly!

Bornsavage1983 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Completely flip it on him by ending that sentence with "dumb ass." Instant legend.

fuckface94 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:48:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I cashier and I usually tell the lead as soon as my lines down Im running for the bathroom unless you want to call maintenance up here. Asking for bathroom breaks is ridiculous.

Amberleaf29 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:54:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was a cashier, I wasn't able to just go to the bathroom all willy nilly unless it was really dead in the store. :( I have a small bladder, so sometimes I suffered for quite a while.

Rolendahl ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:03:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is illegal

Ayeleex ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:48:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah but then everyone gets mad cause it looks like you're just avoiding work

YouNerdAssRetard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I too have a small bladder and i drink a lot of water, so i pee at work like 3 times in a five hour shift. I was confronted once and all i said was "either i pee my pants or pee in the toilet, do you want a drs note?". They left me the hell alone.

Ayeleex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haha hell yeah. I have to pee like every half hour, it's ridiculous. It sucks at work but as long as i get shit done my coworkers dont mind

Rolendahl ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 08:54:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I mean yeah I guess but you shouldn't care that much about a cashier job in my opinion.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:07:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jobs don't grow on trees.

Let me guess you grew up in the suburbs?

Sex4Vespene ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:58:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not to be ignorant, but is it really that hard to get jobs some places? I'm sure part of it is me growing up in privilege, but so far I've never had trouble finding a job when I find one, without putting in really any effort, and even the first job I ever had at 17 paid slightly more than minimum wage. It just makes me wonder are other people really just that fucking incapable, is it really all just circumstance that we end up how we do, or probably a little of both.

fuckface94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It can be hard to find yes. I especially have issues bc I have to have closer to home as I uber or bike commute and it gets expensive

Fitzwoppit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:19:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah but if you complain about it they'll just fuck with you until you mess something up they can fire you for legally or you quit to get away. If you want to pay rent and eat you are stuck putting up with it.

orangebomb ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:47:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"I'm going to use the restroom real quick unless you need something else from me."

Not awkward, and you're not asking.

ThisIsMyRental ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:48:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can't fucking wait to have that humiliation sometime at my future job! I'm 19 and can totally see myself doing that.

missjmelville ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:37:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

At my work I always tell someone when I'm going to the toilet but mostly because I'm the only one at my desk and need to make sure if someone comes in needing me that someone else can tell them I'll be right back. Or to answer the phone if it rings while I'm in the toilet.

I haven't asked to go the toilet for a long time but it took a while even in uni for me to stop asking. Every tutor at the beginning of the year was like, just go, but I still asked sometimes.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:45:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Amberleaf29 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:46:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh yes. Some teachers were really strict about it, a few were more lenient and "whatever" about it, but for the most part, you had to ask. And they could say no...

KaiHein ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:48:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

At my high school, most teachers made you still ask and they typically didn't care as long as it wasn't during a test or something similar. A few wouldn't let you go unless you were female because, as everyone knows, you need to let women go do feminine hygiene things but men never have to pee (most of these were men, probably just heard "period" too many times to want to ever ask again). One or two would give you deadly stares if you even thought you were worthy enough to raise your hand to ask a question let alone want permission to smoke a marijuana in the bathroom (I had one of these and she really did say "I'm not letting you go to the bathroom and smoke any marijuanas"). One amazing teacher couldn't give even one shit if you were in class or not but if you didn't hand in your homework with your daily math puzzle, you didn't get credit for it. I crushed those daily math puzzles so hard that he had to exclude me from the bell curve he graded them on and after telling the whole class that went on to point out that I wasn't even close to head of the class since I never did any homework. Still got the A I needed to fix my GPA so I could barely squeak into the state run scholarship thing and not bother showing up to college classes and fail out of those for free. Now I find myself in the worst position ever, living in a van down by the river.

ClassyCloud ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:28:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well that was a twist ending

Bornsavage1983 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is it a nice van? I have a pretty sweet old van and I could think of many wise positions than living in it by a river. Especially if the fishing is good.

rie9shock ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:25:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Where did you go to highschool???

Xaccus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:09:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's the only difference I have made, still pretty much seek confirmation, I just phrase it as "I'm gonna head to the bathroom real quick"

Breakfast-BAMF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:18:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're not alone. In basic training I still asked. The verbal tirade I and many others received were straight up comedy gold. Still at 30 and in meetings or appointments I get a cold sweat about getting up and casually going to piss.

fiddledebob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:14:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just go pee, but if you shake it more than three times you're playing with it, and you do have to ask permission for that.

[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:19:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My boss hired a high schooler (I think he's going into his junior year) to be our stock boy (basically he vaccuums, organizes, takes out the trash) for the summer, and the first week he would make sure to ask our boss or the manager if he could go to the bathroom or take his break. I think school must've gotten it ingrained into him; I never realized how weird it was, but looking back it's such a weird concept to have to ask to pee.

Valek27 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:28:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have some managers at work that get upset if you don't ask and others that think it's weird to even ask.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:31:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In some situations (in work and in school) I'll ask, like if I'm talking to someone or helping with something, where I'm asking more of 'Hey, is now an okay time for me to go or should I wait?' But my office is pretty laid back, and we all work independently. So it was weird when he stopped working on what he was doing, went into the other office, and asked if he could take a bathroom break. But yeah, some people want to know that kind of stuff, I think it depends a lot about where you work.

essuomelpmap27 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:26:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was working temporarily at another store while my work was being "remodelled" and at least three grown people over the age of 30 asked one of the other people working if they could use the restroom. While doing independent tasks. And dude actually denied one of the requests. So any time I had to go, I just looked at him and said "be back" because he does not control the dam.

Detached09 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:21:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had multiple jobs where I had to do this. At one, we had to hold up one finger for piss, two for shit, and three for "I actually need your help in a non-biological way". And keep it raised until we were "relieved" to go.

I stayed at those jobs way longer than I should have.

Now, Idgaf. I'm not going to take advantage of it, cuz I'm a professional, but I'm also not going to ask permission to take a piss because I'm a grown fucking adult.

Bess95 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:43:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why the hell did they need to know specifically whether you needed to piss or take a shit?

Bornsavage1983 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:30:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The supervisor kept that info in the ol spank bank.

Imperious23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:00 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's four fingers.

Fitzwoppit ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:22:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They probably wanted to guess at how long you should be gone so they could yell at you if you took too long and added a couple extra minutes for a shit.

fNU1 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:11:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The US indoctrination system is quite effective. This is why America can't deal with round-abouts. I mean sure the fact that anyone who's 90% blind and can circle a parking lot at 15 mph is issued a license to drive is one issue, but the real issue here is psychological. Stoplights and stop signs are no problem. Someone else tells you what to do. No thinking for yourself is needed. Stop or go. Simple. A round-about, however, requires one to think for themselves. Americans just freak out and treat them like stop signs, when the whole point is to not have a stop.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:41:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

mind ๐Ÿ’ฅ

Bornsavage1983 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I dive for a living. One city that I spend alot of time in has a high population of Texas tourists during summer months. They have also been installing roundabouts anytime an intersection is redone. There are some things Texas does right. Teaching people how to drive is not fucking one of them.

IsActuallyAMoose ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:47:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My 28 year old fiance sometimes asks me if he can go have a shower. Like, wtf dude, just go and shower like everyone else.

Fitzwoppit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:25:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've asked if it's a one bathroom place and has roommates. Don't want to hop in and take a bit if someone needs the toilet first or if someone has to leave for work soon and needs to shower first. If it's just a couple that would seem odd, but maybe they had roommates before and it became habit.

JeskaLouise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:32:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a supervisor I don't normally tell my employees they need to tell me where they are going but since I work retail and there are alot of dumbasses I've had to make it a habit to say to my employees when I'm training them "oh and if you need to go to the bathroom that's fine just let me know where your going" because one time I had this guy that would just literally take 20 bathroom breaks in a shiftbecause he was lazy and thought that just because he had gotten the job he was secure and could do whatever and would literally walk to the bathroom as slow as a slug so I had to start having them tell me when they went....we eventually stopped giving him hours until he gave up and gave his two weeks notice...it's expensive to fire people in my state

SubcommanderMarcos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I run a beer shop, and that sort of business obviously has to have a nice clean bathroom(I'm sort of proud of my cool goddamn bathroom).

Like 90% of my customers ask me for permission to use it. It still freaks me out. Of course you can bloody use it, my products are the reason you need it and that's why I built it. Why would I stop you, just fucking go

TalkingBlernsball ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:40:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I used to work in a call center where we had to get permission from our supervisor in order to use the bathroom.

I refused to do so. They didn't like me very much.

sirin3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:04:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sure, it is ridiculous to ask for a bathroom break, when you could just wear diapers

Iamshort2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:17:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I totally did this when i first started working. Then i eventually started laughing at all the teenagers asking me. It definitely becomes an ingrained habit

blackmagicwolfpack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:52:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're both under 25, you're not adults yet.

xerxesbeat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:26:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not ridiculous at all! 999 times out of 1000, the answer is "sure, go ahead", but the one time the answer is "that one explodes when you flush, use the other one" you'll be glad you asked

lightjedi5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:53:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That and they really can't stop you.

NewTranslator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:02:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a boss that would require us to check in with him before going to the bathroom. Not doing so could result in being written up.

"You're not asking permission, I just want to know where you are in case the call volume gets high"

In the 2 minutes it's gonna take me to pee, I think we'll be fine.

Sonja_Blu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:51:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Really?! I get that you have to ask in elementary school, but how does it become so ingrained?

Cxameron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a professor in college call me out ask was quietly exiting in a lecture of about 75 other students. I was so confused. After a second I just smirked and walked out. Came back after I peed, and nothing ever came of it.

[deleted] ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 05:42:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh honey... 20 is not an adult.

Rasii ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:18:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Damn, I guess adulthood in our society goes from 18-19, skips 20, then continues on at 21, thanks for the heads up.

[deleted] ยท 937 points ยท Posted at 02:36:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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BareTrap ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 04:27:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That was the longest piss of Andy Dufresne's life...

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:50:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He never sprayed a drop...

ThagaSa ยท 85 points ยท Posted at 03:31:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Red pissed here.

pjabrony ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:07:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So did Brooks.

Simim ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:45:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I can't tell you how much I'd love that

I have a small bladder, fast metabolism, and I work in a warehouse with no a/c lifting heavy freight. As a result I end up peeing 10 times a shift

Edit: I'm a woman, and my glucose levels are fine. I appreciate the concern.

MR-Cocksucker ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 05:27:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime... That's why I shit on company time.

chaos_is_cash ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:43:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a boss, I just told all of my guys to make sure they drink enough water. I don't care if you spend an hour in the bathroom during an eight hour shift, it's not worth your life.

blaqsupaman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My boss recently tried to make it a rule for us to notify him if we have to take a shit so he'll know we'll be off the floor for a few minutes. No one is having it, though. I'm sure he just wanted to do it to time us and bitch at anyone who takes more than five minutes. He once called me into his office because I took a fifteen minute dump and apparently that was too long even though another employee who is related to the owner (i.e. basically untouchable since my manager is the world's biggest kiss ass) has routinely been in the bathroom for thirty minutes at once out of a four hour shift.

chaos_is_cash ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:21:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's so screwed up its not even funny. I see the managers side because employees who spend an excessive amount of time in the latrine effect workplace productivity but it's not something that should be tracked or even addressed unless it's constant. And then you have to allow concessions anyways for medical concerns.

Bittlegeuss ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:43:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Check your prostate and blood sugar, 10 times in 8?10?12? hours is too much no matter the situation.

blaqsupaman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:00:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have a small bladder but even I only average about once every hour and a half.

lalibella ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:45:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It might be a good idea to see a doctor about that, unless you drink a shut ton of water each day

Simim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:55 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I drink about 6-8 liters per shift.

My workplace is easily 101 degrees right now with shit ventilation, like walking into an attic in the peak o summer

haanalisk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:43 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As others have said, that is not normal and indicative of diabetes or enlarged prostate. You definitely need to get that checked out.

Simim ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:55:52 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Hmm, if I had an enlarged prostate, there would be a lot more surprise than that.

Actually, I do have endometriomas that grow around my bladder, and ovarian cysts to boot. I have been to the doctor about it, and I'm on the depo shot to try and regulate my hormones.

But when the endometriomas do develop from time to time, I'll have cramping around my uterus as well as my bladder. Bladder spasms suck ass when you're trying to lift ~80 pound charcoal grills, or drive a forklift, or run at a casual pace, then suddenly you almost or do piss yourself. :(

But I do also want to point out that I am drinking roughly a liter of water an hour. Again, I work in a warehouse with no a/c. Along the Gulf Coast, in summer like this, the thermostat has been reading 100+ F. We routinely have meetings to discuss heat stroke and making sure you stay hydrated.

I sweat most of it out, and I down a sports drink or two to keep my electrolytes in check, but generally speaking I'm not peeing like that when I'm at home with climate control and not drinking copious amounts of liquid.

Oh my gods, no, actually, one of my crew was/is diabetic. He takes the summer months off and comes back for the fall. He tried working into June and passed out from low blood sugar before lunch break. :(

thenextguy ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 04:38:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

TotallyExpectedShawshank

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:51:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's a harsh truth to face

superJarvis ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:54:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same I feel weird just leaving something unannounced, I typically try and ask where the bathroom is before I go and it seems to help

desmondhasabarrow ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 04:42:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They were quoting The Shawshank Redemption.

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:49:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When do we eat?

takuyafire ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 06:41:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

YOU EAT WHEN I SAY YOU EAT

YOU PISS WHEN I SAY YOU PISS

YOU GOT THAT YOU MAGGOT DICK MOTHER FUCKER?!

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:42:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

On your feet

Glumlor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:12:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Red was here

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:22:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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broccolibush42 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:28:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How would you rank it in your top movies of all time?

Glumlor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:45:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Best movie to prepare you for prison.

Nitsju ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:09:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Follow it up with a Prison Break marathon.

shushbow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Kinky.

Uknow_nothing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:23:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have this problem but only at work. I've had jobs where you had to tell someone you were going to go piss. Other jobs they're like don't tell me just go do it. But I feel like I just have to say it.

Durbee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:41:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Brooks was here. So was Red.

Brookee79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:03:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shawshank?

gingerly_said ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:19:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you, Red?

Kinkydragonfly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:06:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Kinky.

Muzikhead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:35:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

TIL you can Reddit from prison

InsideYoWife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:55:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You must have a bladder made of steel

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

life is too short to wait for others to let you pee, dude.

AllCaffeineNoEnergy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:51:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sweetheart, it sounds like it's just a fetish now.

PM_me1bitcoin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:10:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Red?

bheal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Get busy living, or get busy pissing.

Im_Not_A_VeryGood_Dr ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:02:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your wife is too controlling

Dragonbaq ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:47:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, Red...

T3C_Illuzion ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:12:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Probably has something to do with having to ask to use the bathroom in school for the first 18 years of your life, and sometimes beyond depending on what decision they make.

eigenvectorseven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

and sometimes beyond depending on what decision they make.

What do you mean by this? I can't think of anywhere in adult life you have to ask permission for the toilet

bashar_speaks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:57:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There are lots of jobs where you need to get permission to use the bathroom, and/or they track your bathroom breaks, like shitty call-center jobs.

literally_a_possum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:56:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Factory work, outside of normal break time.

MegaUltraSonic ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:12:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is also an odd thing going from high school to college. You have to go? Go. Nobody cares anymore, you don't need teacher's permission or a hall pass or whatever, just do what you have to do!

cinthiaxotwod ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:42:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In our household we didn't have to ask we just announced it to everyone of course just my immediate family but it didn't stop until close to my senior year in high school when I realized why do I have to let my family know I'm going to pee or take a shit. Funny now that I think about.

WannabeKitty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:41:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I live with just my mom. I'm 18 and she still insists I do this. If we're in the living room and I stand up and walk to the bathroom she gets this concerned tone to her voice and says "where are you going?" And every time she goes to the bathroom she announces it. I've learned to just announce it too so we don't have to do the whole "where are you going" thing.

dumpsterofdildos ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:30:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I did this too, with going to the bathroom as well as asking for a drink or a snack. One day my mom was just likewhy, why are you asking me?

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:46:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think it has something to do with being nurtured into doing that in school. I still remember being in the 1st grade and telling the teacher I had to go to the bathroom. She looked at me with this deadpan expression and said, "We already had a bathroom break today." When I started college, it felt like such a freedom to be able to just get up and go to the bathroom when you wanted to.

zeoranger ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:54:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My son is 10 and does this. Even in the middle of the night. He wakes me up just to ask if he can go to the bathroom. I kind of want to say no sometime just to see what happens.

vagrantheather ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:21:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Explain to him that there are different rules for school and home; that he has to ask at school but at home he can just go. I really think it just doesn't click with some kids that the rules are different for different environments.

Ogow ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:34:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not for the bathroom but I had to teach basically this to a high schooler I coach a few months ago. He kept complaining something was in his way and was impacting his performance, and kept asking if he could sweep it away. I kept saying no to see what he'd do, but after the 3rd time I broke it down to him: "if it's something that's needs to be done, just do it. No one is going to be mad at you for resolving a problem, if anything they'll be happy you took care of it so they didn't have to.".

Since then he'll still ask sometimes, but ill just stare at him until he corrects to "I'm going to..." rather than "can I...".

CrackedGoggles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:03:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had trouble with this after I stopped high school and started college. I felt like Red in Shawshank Redemption.

Littobubbo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:36:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

same. i used to ask for the fridge.. and then it hit me.. just open the dooor and nothing bad will happen.

Stewartw642 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:38:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There wasn't a time in school where I haven't needed to ask to go to the bathroom...

officemonkey33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:26:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was little I always felt like I had to ask permission to flush the toilet. I'm not sure why, I just thought I should get permission to do that.

yaosio ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:16:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You probably liked to throw stuff in but don't remember it.

eigenvectorseven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:52:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've seen people in university classes ask the tutor if they can go to the toilet. I feel second-hand embarassment for them.

wanawanka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus

Daze5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:38:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My stepdaughter was like this when she was little. I'd say, ok? She would just look at me, doing the peepee dance, until I said she could go. Thankfully, she soon caught on that she didn't have to ask to do basic things at our home. Still doesn't make sense to me why she would wait, but I love that girl.

man_of_shakti710 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And then did you pee yourself?

hippocratical ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:49:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Repressed memory engaged.

Wow, I totally forgot about that. And now I need a pee too.

norse77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:52:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ok Red.

unaspirateur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Growing up, if I got up to go do something my mom would ask "where are you going"
So now it's habit that if I have to go to the bathroom, I say "I have to go to the bathroom" and go. It's not asking permission so much as it is announcing my intentions. But im 27 and I still do it!

jeffbell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Steve Martin as Ruprecht https://youtu.be/eF8QAeQm3ZM?t=6m40s

CoutureLaLa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't ask but I would announce, just to stave off the "where are you going?'s." Eventually was told that I really didn't need to do that.

tskapboa78 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was like 13 at my best friends house and hanging out with him and his ~16 year old brother. We were watching him play WoW (it was the closest thing to playing the game itself, which we weren't allowed to do unless we did his chores for him HA) and I asked him if I could go to the bathroom. I still remember the mocking yet sad look on his face when he told me "we're not in school, you don't have to ask me permission to piss."

saintsorfools ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am a manager at a bakery. I've had 50 year old adults ask me if they can go to the bathroom. I'm 26. It's not like they inform me they are going to the bathroom sink don't get confused when the disappear...they literally ask my permission. I always feel so uncomfortable "allowing" an adult to go pee. I understand like the first time when you're new but some people keep it up through months of employment.

highqi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Reminds me of the scene in The Shawshank Redemption when Red asks his boss for a restroom break and he tells him the same thing.

abxyz4509 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When they used to make you ask to go to the bathroom and would even say no in elementary school I got so annoyed. I mean, why the fuck would I ask if I didn't have to go? So one day, I asked the teacher if I could go to the bathroom, and she said no. I was a timid first grader or kindergartener or some shit, so even though I was filled to the brim I just went back to my seat because I was too afraid to ask again. I then proceeded to piss myself. Fuck that teacher.

ergzay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's what school does to you. So glad I was homeschooled.

KappaccinoNation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're institutionalized. Next thing you'll know you're crossing the mexican border and living in Zihuatanejo.

helloicarus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel that. I'm 23 and I'm still accidentally asking permission for things. Hard habit to break.

janiiem ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm 21 and do this at my job and they always laugh at me but I think it's nice to ask first so they know where I am haha

BlindGuardian117 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:47:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dude I did this too. Luckily my mom told me to just go and stop asking when I was around 6.

xrainxofxbloodx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:51:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I picked this up from school. I remember once it was some sort of break or silent reading, and I SWEAR I saw two kids leave the room without asking. And I didn't want to have a "you don't need to ask" moment, so I just walked out the door. Then the teacher called out to me. Oops. She didn't get mad, but I was crying and felt humiliated and confused.

bluhbluhblahblah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Truth is I couldnt get a drop out without asking.

Fromyoo2me ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:06:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you Red from shawshank redemption?

Eurynom0s ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I remember one of my professors having this conversation with us the start of first semester freshman year. "If you have to go just go while trying to minimize disturbance in/out, don't make a whole spectacle of asking to go."

BobbysWorldWar2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:16:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hahaha my kids still ask me this too. I always just laugh and ask why they're telling me.

Skjetch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same shit happened to me except I think I was like 7

Sick_of_Life ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not to be a debbie downer, but everytime I read something like this, I get a little bitter. I was forced to ask before going. And was sometimes denied.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:25:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same thing happened to Morgan Freeman when he got a job at the grocery store.

WordBoxLLC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:29:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

you don't have to ask, just go.

Instructions unclear; pissed pants.

natural-fibers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:30:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This was me as well. Except, not for home. Whenever we were at church I'd always ask my mom or tell her I would go. At about 14 I realised "why the hell am I asking/telling her?" and from then on just started getting up and going.

FlipKickBack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:37:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

how is that something your parents taught you that you had to unlearn? sounds like she corrected you

dontsignalnow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm 21 and I still ask to take a shower! I can't drop it for whatever reason.

ReadyThor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You were probably taught that at school not home. There are reasons why, mainly because the teacher is still responsible for you even when you're out of sight.

Cashrunner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:47:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I did that two days ago at work... To my Co workers.... I'm twenty.

Sethmeisterg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:50:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Reminds me of The Shawshank Redemption.

DuffleMouse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:52:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you Morgan Freeman?

mammabear0972 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:59:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My son does this despite me telling him repeatedly that he can just go. I truly think he just wants to share his toileting habits with everyone. Kids are strange

Minusguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:01:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My sister is 24 and she still asks my mother if she could eat something or go to the bathroom. It's a really fucking sad thing to see. She once was a normal kid but mother's toxic upbringing made her into some kind of dog or a slave, it's the reason I can't respect my parents. And they act as if she is annoying and it has nothing to do with them. I don't know what helped me to avoid their influence and become a somewhat separate (I had depression and several really scary mental breakdowns before I realized what was wrong) person but I consider myself lucky.

grape_jelly_sammich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:11:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

jesus dude, how much WERE you in school?

...

Or prison. How much were you in prison for that matter?

(for all you idiots out there...this comment is meant to be a joke)

ViSoRoX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:19:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I learned this from working in bars for five years. You'd have to tell someone to excuse yourself from standing on the bar (not ask permission by just say). It took me years in my first office job to get over that. They must have thought I was really weird.

ittybittybit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:20:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I used to ask if I could shower! I think it was a hold over from when I was really young and needed my parents' help. I think I only stopped asking when I got a bathroom in my room.

Baltowolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:24:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a homeschooler this is the most amusing thing about college. Every public schooled kid asks first. You don't need permission in college... (most classes. My fiancรฉ's nursing lectures you do apparently.)

kettu3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:29:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I was like this. Not about the bathroom, but other things.

IAmADudette ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:30:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Still asked into my 20s. Think I only got out of it the last 2ish years. Can't pinpoint it though.

ETA I'm 28 now :|

HairyBaIIs007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:31:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why did you have to ask? I would hope by 12 you were able to go to the bathroom.

marcm6246 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:31:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why would you unlearn that? No one should govern when you have to piss.

Busseatbrown_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:38:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My boyfriend told me he thought he always had to let someone know he's going until he was around 4, he told me that he woke up in the middle of the night and everyone was asleep so he wobbled to his sisters room and woke her up to let her know and he ended up peeing right beside her bed.

Gooddayhans ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:54:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a kid, I wasn't shy at all about people seeing me peeing, so I usually did that with the door open, but I was shy about being watched while I pooped, so I always announced to one of my parents that I had to poop, so they wouldn't walk into the bathroom while I was in the middle of the act. One day, my mom said that I didn't have to announce it every time. I was horrified: if I wasn't allowed to announce it, how would I prevent them from walking in? A couple of weeks later, I discovered this amazingly complicated concept called "locking the door"...

Mrnoone696 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Reminds me of when I asked a professor to use the restroom my first semester of college. Ugh...

SkidMcmarxxxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:44:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hahahahaha

SpicyChickenFlavor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:55:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My girlfriend does this with me, her mom was weird and controlling, so she demands that they ask for literally everything, restroom, food, water, you name it. It is getting out of hand, because she constantly asks me to use the restroom even though she is probably dying to go, and will wait for me to answer. I am trying to get her to stop but she simply says that it's how she was raised.

laman012 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:59:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Anywhere? ??

laman012 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:59:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is your mom a teacher?

MajorTomQuotes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:53:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same with me.

elitepenguin4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:23:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I only stopped doing this a few months ago.

Give_Them_Gold ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:31:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

An bhfuil cead agam dul go dtรญ an leithreas?

drunky_crowette ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:52:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My sister and I still say "I gotta go pee" every time because we used to have to wait for my dad and teachers to tell us it was okay to get up and go

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:13:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why did she wait 12 years to let you know that?

PM_TITS_AND_ASS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:26:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Related but not really, I always excuse my self and state why

RagnodOfDoooom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:45:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And if you have kids they'll interrogate you everytime you head that way. My 3 year old does this everytime. It was worse when I was pregnant with his sister though.

Alarid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:51:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I showed her how independent I was by peeing myself

Art_Vandelay_7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:15:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ah, the old Shawshank childhood trauma

GOKUS_TOENAIL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:29:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

40 years I've been asking permission to take a piss, I can't squeeze a drop without asking

Kaibakura ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:38:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Erm. So you had to unlearn this? As in, you now ask to go to the bathroom again?

crazyben1234 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:38:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

you don't have to ask, just go.

This created a few problems when my parents were like: "Where's Ben?" and they called out my name, and I can hear them but they can't hear me.

The way I think: Instead of saying: "May I please go to the toilet?" say "Going to the toilet, be right back."

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:04:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Chris, you don't have to say doot doot"

HolyZest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:12:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One of my most embarrassing moments in college! First day of first class and I asked to go to the bathroom because hey, that's what we did in the previous 13 years of schooling. Apparently in college you just get up and go when there's a lull or sometimes even without one. I had no clue about this and looked like an idiot.

athaliah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:24:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ughhhh my 3 year old does this and it drives me crazy. I literally just had this conversation with her right before I read this comment. "Mom, I have to go pee." "Okay, then go pee! You don't need to tell me first, if you have to pee, just go pee!". I'm surprise your mom lasted 12 years.

FierceDeity_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:44:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ugh, I did this too. First, I asked, then I just told them and after some point I just went.

mdo556 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This happened with me and food. I'd always ask my parents if I could eat something we had in the fridge or pantry. My dad said that I could just eat whatever I want if I was hungry, I didn't need to ask.

Lt_LetDown ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My kid is 9 and still asks for permission to go potty or to eat and I'm always confused because I've never told him not to either. I've asked him to wait (if I'm driving) until we either get home or to our destination depending which one is closer. But I've never told him no on this.

NorthernYankee_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I did the same thing ahaha

Throne-Eins ยท 233 points ยท Posted at 03:13:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm responsible for everyone else's feelings. My parents are narcissists, and if they were ever in a bad mood, it was because of something I did. I've spent my whole life managing their emotions. Learning what sets them off, learning the subtle triggers, making sure you don't ever step out of line or say something that they might misinterpret or take too personally. And not just with them - I had to do that with EVERYONE so that I would be a "good kid" and not make other people angry. Because being a "bad kid" would reflect very poorly on them and we can't have that.

I now know that other peoples' emotions aren't my goddamn problem, but I still feel responsible for my parents'. It's tough.

brettf123 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 07:13:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ever been on r/raisedbynarcissists ?

Throne-Eins ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 13:32:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I lurk there a lot. It's so depressing to know that so many other people have been through the same.

brettf123 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:33:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I find it an awesome way to show solidarity, knowing that your feelings are normal and other people understand them is an awesome thing

Throne-Eins ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 13:40:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It really is. Especially when, as all of us children of narcissists know, you've been gaslighted your whole life and think that it's YOUR perception of reality that's fucked up and your parents' that is right. I still second-guess myself constantly because I've been told my whole life that I misinterpret things, take things too personally, make things up, am overdramatic or oversensitive, and so forth and so on. It's amazing how much of my life suddenly made sense once I learned what that word meant.

brettf123 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:42:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well put! It was an odd feeling when I stumbled accross the place, and even stranger finding out that I was welcome despite my parents not being the narcissists but rather the grandmother and aunt who helped raise me

MenschIsDerUnited ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:02:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's exactly me. I'm unlearning it just now. My mother was/is quite narcisstic and I had to do everything you just listed to be 'a good son' and never spoke up. I guess I got out of that through my siblings and contact with other persons. Because I deeply cared for my siblings (which she ironically 'thought' me) I hated it when she got angry at them because they overstepped these boundaries and looked after them after they got emotionally beaten up and even spoke up for them the 1st time this year.

I still watch out for peoples feelings a lot but I finally managed to balance things at least a little bit in my favor. Shoutout to my grandparents at this point :)

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:11:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This struck a chord. Everything I struggled through made them look bad. I got dumped by a guy a it made them somehow look like bad parents and I was embarrassing them.

Throne-Eins ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:19:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know, right??? I'm disabled now, but I'm treated very caustically because I'm not sick enough to be worthy of sympathy for my mom. Whenever I was in the hospital, she doted on me because a hospitalized child meant tons of sympathy for her. But the minute I was "healthy" enough to leave the hospital but not healthy enough to work a high-powered, prestigious job that would reflect well on her (hell, I won't be able to work any job again), I became an embarrassment.

lostmonkey70 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:09:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm responsible for everyone else's feelings.

Holy crap, this is exactly what I need to unlearn. I definitely was taught it as a kid and got out of it when I went to college, but it's come back full force after I moved back home after school, and this attitude has definitely screwed up my life hard.

Rocafellarecords ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:50:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hey,

You've done amazing by your parents in that regard. Use some of that feel good you have and give some to yourself.

It sucks when you realize a good portion of your life was surrounded by this.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:49:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ugh jesus fucking christ, this. Fuck. That.

PizzaRollsAndWeed ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:37:25 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad is a narcissist in this way, and he also LOVES himself. Prides himself as a good guy when he's around his friends. I was always the one to ruin everyones day, or if something happened it was always me being accused first.

Rocky_Bukkake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:35:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

yea that's a hard one. i remember a girlfriend like this, and my stepmom definitely. hell, even my dad. yeah, that vanity lust. impossible and trapping and so angsty.

Derpina69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:20 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

hi twin

rektALproLAPSE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:00:41 on September 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Asian?

niklapton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:32:58 on September 15, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

High chances, YES. I am an asian too, this shit happens here all the time

rektALproLAPSE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:36:33 on September 15, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know that story all too well. Hope it does not drag you down if it happened to you

hitops1 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:45:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

On the plus side, you are already prepared to attend liberal universities.

AwkwardNoah ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:36:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Have aunt Fuck her Tried to buy out my uncle's home when me, sister, and my mom were living with him Just wants money Fuck her

ajisp ยท 13003 points ยท Posted at 01:40:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Korean fan death... For those who don't know about this, Korean people believe that if you sleep with a fan on with all windows and door closed you will die.. Still can't convince my parents that this is a myth

Awestruck3 ยท 3723 points ยท Posted at 03:45:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've also heard it's a way to kinda... Redeem suicide in a sense. Instead of the police saying "He was found hanging from his ceiling fan" they say "The fan cut off oxygen"

ShockinglyEfficient ยท 1410 points ยท Posted at 04:17:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you for being the person to explain that to me

indigo121 ยท 2360 points ยท Posted at 04:19:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For the record the other theory is that it was spread as a rumor by the Korean government to reduce electricity usage.

ArgenAstra ยท 1001 points ยท Posted at 04:48:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is what I personally believe. A lot of people in Korea, especially the older generation, are reeeeeeaaaally stingy when it comes to electricity consumption. All electronics there list the consumption for instance.

arizonaicedoutwes ยท 447 points ยท Posted at 04:59:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can confirm. My very Americanized Korean brother leaves the fan on at night and my parents go ape shit if they find it on.

natural-fibers ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 06:41:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Man, I wouldn't survive there. I sleep with my fan on every night.

[deleted] ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 08:15:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's fans for sale there that have auto shutoff timers to make them "safe"

Lol

HALLELUJAH1 ยท -17 points ยท Posted at 11:46:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thats because its unnecessary to waste energi on a fan which is on while youre sleeping...

[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 11:56:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I consider it a small luxury worth the <$5 bump in my electric bill monthly

Shardok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:06:50 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It isn't even anywhere near $1. The monitor for your computer uses a few quarters of electricity a month on average (unless crt). The computer barely more than that.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:31 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was talking about an electric fan I can keep going for 12 hours at a time

HALLELUJAH1 ยท -17 points ยท Posted at 12:03:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Its not about money, but its not weird that americans only care about money

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 12:10:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can't hear you over my fan lol

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:40:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

A valid point. But, bigger fish man.

HALLELUJAH1 ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 12:46:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everybody can make a difference... thats the stupidest argument there is

[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 12:51:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Absolutely everyone can make a difference. But you can be far more effective than turning off a fan.

For less of an inconvenience, and a greater impact, one could:

  1. Get a more power efficient PC PSU.

  2. Lower your thermostat a degree.

  3. Bleed your radiators.

  4. LED bulbs for your main rooms.

  5. Hundreds of other things.

That's what I meant by bigger fish.

HALLELUJAH1 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 13:01:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But that doesnt mean that you shouldnt save energi by turning of lights etc. Everything helps

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:04:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why waste time turning off lights? Use the time you would spend doing that to install a central control system that will let you turn off all your lights at once, saving time, money, and energy.

You are right, every little thing helps. But some things help more than others. I think it's silly to spend five minutes to save a dozen watts and not not spend an hour to save a few hundred.

cohrt ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 14:01:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

except for the fact that the fan makes it cooler in the room, which makes it easier to sleep.

Quatzecoatl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:29:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yea the A/C in my room at home is terrible, and my mom turns the thermostat up relatively high, so it gets hot as shit in my room at night without the fan

glassuser ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:40:42 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The fan actually makes it warmer in the room. Not much, but it happens.

HALLELUJAH1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:40:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Its cools the body down not the room

ajisp ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 05:00:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes.. My mom had a panic attack when I did that..

lordofvice ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:43:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Confused by this... is it just your brother who's Korean or you and your parents too? Or are you all American just trying to make him feel not so far from home by going ape shit at electricity consumption?

kAy- ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:29:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'd guess his brother went to study in America while he didn't. Or he's closer to the Korean culture while his brother is closer to the American's.

arizonaicedoutwes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:51:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nah we're all Korean Americans. My brother just spent a lot of time away from home for and came to visit for the summer. In the meanwhile he forgot that leaving the fan on at night means death.

icecoldtrashcan ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 06:18:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Doesn't everything these days list it's consumption? Certainly does in the UK...

The_Last_Leviathan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:58:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That took me a second to realize too. Here in Austria everything lists it's usage and also the efficiency category. Most applicances will be A+, or even A++/A+++ for more expensive ones.

elastic-craptastic ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 10:49:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not in the US. It'll have an "Energy Star" sticker but not necessarily it's exact consumption of energy per hour.

We're rich in the US. We don't need to care about such trivial things as our usage of an unlimited resource. Actually, some major appliances list the usage so you can pick out the strongest unit now that I think about it.

muuus ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:55:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

All electronics there list the consumption for instance.

Wait, where are you from?

All electronics list usage in Europe too since I can remember.

Cimexus ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:55:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait, there are places where appliances DON'T list the consumption? They all do here (Australia) - sticker on the front that a lot of people just peel off after they buy it. I could have sworn I saw similar in the US too ... maybe I'm wrong.

uber1337h4xx0r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:42:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bigger stuff does. Video game systems, iPods, etc. do not, except In the manual

xerxesbeat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:16:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Video game systems, iPods, etc. do not

They do, it's P = I * V in units of Watts = Amperes * Volts

(Look for input vs output on the power cable/charger)

thor214 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:21:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is not the device's consumption stats. That is only giving you the maximum load the PSU can handle at that voltage. My 12V LED lighting doesn't care that the power supply can deliver 30A at 12V.

uber1337h4xx0r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:21:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think they're talking about those big yellow signs that they put on TVs and fridges that say like "this model uses 56 kWh a year, or $23" (I made up the costs, feel free to laugh if I over/under estimated).

BattleHall ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 06:13:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

All electronics there list the consumption for instance.

To be fair, all electronics in the US do too (or at least the max wattage).

flub_n_rub ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:18:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair, electronics and appliances list their consumption in most modern countries.

whatsausername90 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:53:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Seems like a better solution might be to stop making so many electronics.

fNU1 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 08:08:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You mean to day getting rid the perfectly fine car I have now and buying a, brand new, six figure, luxury car isn't actually "green?" B-but we have to go faster, you damn tree huger. Stop holding up progress!

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:15:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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fNU1 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:36:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought I was being pretty lucid and clear in my lighthearted jab at the Tesla, or Tesla owners rather. Greenwashing or whatever they call it.

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fNU1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:41:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, actually you weren't. You just said, "a 6 figure car in Korea would be only like $100." That's a whole different statement. I was like "Woah! $100,000 car for $100? Either WTF is this guy talking about OR sign me the fuck up!"

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fNU1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:53:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm confused.

mawktheone ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:02:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They list the consumption in Ireland too. Is that not normal?

xx315 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:03:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Electricity also gets really expensive really fast. If you use over 500kwh in a month for your entire house, every kwh ends up costing 12x what it would cost if you used less than 50kwh in a month. Can get crazy expensive in a very short amount of time if you aren't careful.

ThePaperSolent ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:58:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That should be standard in the EU too. It's s good idea.

I don't want to buy a toaster when I fm can get one that uses hella less power.

The_Last_Leviathan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:59:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Where do you live?

Here in Austria they definitely do that and advertise with it a lot of times as well. I tought this was a EU thing.

ThePaperSolent ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:56:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It isn't, as long as we did not get an exception. It should be though.

Cylon_Toast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:54:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Makes sense, you can't consume energy if you die of heat stroke.

fNU1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:05:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Interesting.. I see some consumer advice or perhaps an LPT in there somewhere.. Buy Korean appliances to save energy. LG washer/drier, anyone?

Smash678 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:14:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's because the electricity costs are ridiculously high here. Everything else is fairly reasonable, but using a lot of electricity, especially AC, will make your bills go through the roof.

Revelation_X ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:30:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't forget doing allthe dishes by hand to save on the water bill!

junhawng ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:41:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, Korea seems to be deeply rooted in energy savings. Maybe because of the IMF crisis in the late 90's or maybe the poor state the country was in even before that. I've found that the speedometer looking label that ranks the energy usage from 1-5 (I believe) is not only limited to electronics (computers, air conditioners, etc.) but also automobiles. Don't know how they come up with the scale, but every new car you buy comes with these.

Wusuowhey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:17:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not likely. There are many similar beliefs in China when it comes to moving wind. Firstly the one that houses shouldn't face north, because of the evil north wind. Most architecture faces south. Secondly there's one about turning air conditioners at night. That they will make you sick. Whenever anybody has a cold in the summer, everybody secretly ( sometimes openly) connectd it to your air conditioner use. They call it air conditioner sickness. Yeah, these explanations are all somewhere halfway stuck between myth and science. It would most likely be that chinese people just don't clean their AC's ever which spreads germs. Anyway, the similarities between Korea and China are there.

StrangeCharmVote ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:53:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Isn't having your electronics list the consumption just a responsible thing instead of a conspiracy?

I mean buying a large fridge for example... I'll buy one as big as i'll need. But if there's two nearly identical ones side by side and one has a higher energy rating (lower Kw\h usage) then i'll get that one out of the two.

dblmjr_loser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:10:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

All electronics everywhere list power consumption.

enjoyyourshrimp ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:56:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

All electronics there list the consumption for instance.

That would be really useful, everywhere. Companies could use it as a selling point "Look! The new Samsung Z uses only 0.5W/day."

koreth ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 05:33:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

A small electric fan eats a tiny fraction of the electricity of, say, a refrigerator. Maybe it made sense for a period of time when electric fans were common but refrigerators weren't, though.

goldfishpaws ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:56:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Better still, overnight is the time when power is at its cheapest and in least demand. I don't buy this one.

FF3LockeZ ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:34:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think leaving a fan on all year probably takes less electricity than watching a single episode of a TV show.

ISBUchild ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:47:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's almost the other way around; Consumer electronics post-CRTs use almost nothing, but turning a motor to do physical work isn't something that cant get more efficient by an order of magnitude with die shrinks.

HanJunHo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:52:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So you really think this rumor started in the post-CRT era?

Zardif ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:00:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A box fan and led TV draw about the same power.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:01:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The TVs were worse back then. Admittedly, so were the fans.

Zardif ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A box fan and led TV draw about the same power.

instadit ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:16:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

While this is plausible, wikipedia states:

One conspiracy theory is that the South Korean government created or perpetuated the myth as propaganda to curb the energy consumption of South Korean households during the 1970s energy crisis, but Slate reports that the myth is much older than that โ€“ dating almost as far back as the introduction of electric fans in Korea, and cites a 1927 article about "Strange Harm from Electric Fans".

The slate article

The source used by the slate article. I can't read korean but the google translation verifies that the source is indeed about a 1927 article and "fan harm"

Supersnazz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:51:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The other theory is that is potentially true, but only in ridiculously specific conditions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_death#Proposed_causes

If it's a well sealed room and it's pretty hot blowing warm air over yourself can lead to heat stress. The US EPA warns against using a fan in this situation.

KingSneakyMole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:06:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also heard from my dad that it could be something spread by air conditioning companies to switch to A/C.

Illusory_Life ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fun fact; fans in Korea actually come with 15-30 min (etc.) "shut off" timers.

Built-In ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:15:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If it was a rumor to moderate electricity consumption of the population, wouldn't they have targeted an appliance that draws more power, like televisions?

Are air conditioners a thing in Korea?

slash196 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:27:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How much electricity does a fan even use?

R34LiSM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:37:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

First thing that came to my head too. It makes a lot of sense haha.

pageandpetals ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:44:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that actually sounds like a pretty good explanation. i'm not sure if they purposely ration electricity or just don't have the infrastructure to support 50 million people's electricity in a country the size of indiana, but we had a couple of blackouts over the summer when i lived there in 2013. i remember getting text messages about it from my phone service.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That sounds like some dude's conspiracy theory, while the euphemism for suicide seems realistic.

Ceejae ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 09:19:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No. That's not the encompassing truth. Perhaps that is where the myth originates from (though I doubt that too), but a lot of people in Korea literally believe sleeping with a fan on will kill you, it isn't a metaphor for suicide.

ShockinglyEfficient ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair that guy didn't say it was a metaphor. He said it was an ternative to acknowledging suicide which makes sense to me

Saint947 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 07:47:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's not a popular line of thinking. That's a narrative after the fact (which is of course as good as a fucking academic journal on this shitpile of a website.)

ShockinglyEfficient ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Then what's the "real" reason?

Saint947 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Plain old Asian superstition. They are a culture famous for it.

ShockinglyEfficient ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:31:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm interested in the origin of superstitions. It doesn't satisfy me to say "lmao those crazy Asians being crazy again."

Saint947 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am not an Asian historian.

ShockinglyEfficient ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:36:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh really you're not? Oh but you're willing to discredit a perfectly reasonable theory?

Yeah, I know you're not.

PlasmaWhore ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:01:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not literally an excuse for suicide. It's most commonly to save face from deaths due to alcohol poisoning/choking on vomit from alcohol poisoning.

ShockinglyEfficient ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:04:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do you think that happens more often in Korea

mynewaccount5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:42:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Actually it's because of misinfotmation

ShockinglyEfficient ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:08:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I meant the actual mechanism of the fan killing the person. I didn't put together that they believed the fan was cutting off the oxygen. As to why they believe that, it is misinformation, yes, but there's a deeper cultural origin surely.

mynewaccount5 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:26:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The deeper cultural origin is that people are stupid and make shit up.

ShockinglyEfficient ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can choose to believe that, and although it's insensitive, you're probably still right. However, superstitions certainly have origins with meaning. Getting to the bottom of that might even help the superstition to go away if it's harmful.

Nightguard119 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:00:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shockingly efficiently too

dicktitcum ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:22:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

OP is shockingly efficient in explaining

sdrawkcabsihtetorW ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:01:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can't imagine a ceiling fan holding the weight of a human.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:17:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

These ceiling fans is corn fed!!!

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:34:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The average weight is considerably less in Korea.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:19:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'd guess the percentage of Korean homes with ceiling fans to be...... 0.002%.

Mnawab ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:05:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bro they don't even have a installed in the actual walls. No vents or anything. They buy ac machines that just blows cold air out in one room.

tiger8255 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:34:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How does the AC blow the air w/o a fan?

Mnawab ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:34:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It has a fan it's just a giant machine place in one room. http://i.imgur.com/aueGE1v.jpg

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:59:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's a fan. Not the typical AC unit you see installed in Korean homes.

Mnawab ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know man it just looks something like this is what I meant

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:27 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well now you know. I do know what you're talking about, those tall giant AC units in the corner of the room. Those are connected to external fan units though.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

he's talking out of his ass. if AC is installed, there is an external fan.

Redbulldildo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:08:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You do realize not having central air is more common than having it, right?

Mnawab ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:16:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well other then maybe dorms or smaller apartments no. Im use to seeing houses with central air. I've lived in apartments without it but houses not so much.

Redbulldildo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:20:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Depends on where you are. My house, and many in my rural town don't have it.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:00:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

if AC is installed, then there's always an external fan...

twokidsinamansuit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:19:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I always heard that it was to dissuade people from using excess electricity.

blazetronic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:25:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Odd euphemisms

felesroo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:26:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Korean ceiling fans must be phenomenal to support the weight of a body.

venterol ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:38:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You people must have incredibly strong ceiling fans, mine seems like it'll fall out if I look at it funny.

yourpseudonymsucks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:21:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That, or alcohol poisoning.
Death by suicide or death from alcoholism are super shameful. So much face lost.

ParamedicGatsby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:50:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh I thought it meant, the fan will inevitably fall on you while you slept.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:44:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is very interesting.

leadabae ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:43:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've also heard it's a way to kinda...Redeem suicide in a sense.

I think the word you're looking for is euphemism.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:42:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's a strong-ass ceiling fan though

psinguine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:41 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well if he was strangled by his fan then I suppose that would be technically true.

SD__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Put a pot plant in there guv. He'll soon wake up.

hangm4n ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:30:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To me it sounds like superstition because bad spirit complain about waste at night and take your image and use it to hurt your family and you don't find out about their reality disconnecting until later.

DucksDoFly ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:59:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They are just not a big fan of the idea.

prrg ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:53:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It was actually a rumor spread by the Korean government a long time ago to justify the assassinations they would perform behind the scenes iirc.

GatorGladiator ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:38:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Redeem suicide

You should keep on searching for a word, because it doesn't redeem suicide.

Stoofandthings ยท 5095 points ยท Posted at 02:50:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

So I would be super dead? Lol. I've slept with a fan on since I got hamsters 8 years ago. They are long gone and I haven't gone back. I can't sleep in total silence now.

Edit: my most up voted comment by far. And to answer why, it was because those little fucks had a squeaky wheel that they only used at night. On top of general rustling. Anyway 1 of them killed the other, so the survivor was cast out into the wilderness many years ago.

ascriptmaster ยท 7990 points ยท Posted at 03:35:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe your fan killed the hamsters

carvex ยท 2767 points ยท Posted at 04:10:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everyone that has used a fan will die.

originalpoopinbutt ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 04:51:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

100% correlation.

max81968 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 06:05:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

0% causation.

delishiousbass ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 06:25:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sure somebody has died while sleeping with the fan on

[deleted] ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 06:59:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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Kami_of_Water ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:01:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I believe you.

laman012 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:51:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do you have children?

RileyReidPocketPussy ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 13:41:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Reminds me of the time i was doing helicopter dick but then the fan fell off the windowsill onto my dick and sliced that bad boy off. I was always taught to look on the bright side so i keep my cock in the freezer so i may still pleasure my daughter with it

riselikebread ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:25:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Boooooo. Party pooper.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:01:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You misspelled 100. Two zeros and a one, bud.

Nardo318 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 04:24:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm a metal fan.

[deleted] ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 04:39:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Death metal?

BrutalWarPig ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:02:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why get into genres, when all metal can ban together and takeout boy bands.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:31:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Boy band metal?

BrutalWarPig ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:47:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No. Just no.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:29:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like someone is afraid of liking something.

Ymanexpress ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:18:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Aren't most metal bands exclusively boys? I.E 'Boy Band'.

Ed_Thatch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:36:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fan=death, so yes

Celestite44 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:29:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm spinning.

ascriptmaster ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 04:19:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well I mean you aren't wrong...

zamarie ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 04:39:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Technically correct is the best kind of correct.

cubesquareprism ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:14:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Depends. There's the smartass technical correctness and there's comedic technical correctness.

Minimalphilia ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:33:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One person's smartass is another person's comedian.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:51:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Technically correct is Trump correct.

Minimalphilia ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:32:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No... Not even close. He is just wrong.

dvfsz ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:32:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Actually he is. I never used a fan, and I'm dead!

Marioxorz ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:41:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A implies B, but B does not imply A.

gods_fear_me ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:46:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The person who has used a fan can neither go to heaven nor hell.

PrashnaChinha ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:42:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're immortal, then. 'cause nobody is your fan.

max81968 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:06:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shade has been thrown.

themcp ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:39:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I already did. Can I get a pass from ever dying again now? I've done my dutiful one death.

aboybrushedbrown ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:30:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

:(

lumpymattress ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:29:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't tell me what to do

AncientSwordRage ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:05:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Operation Yewtree motto.

fortheloveofjorge ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:29:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Every fan that has used a die will person.

SHSzilla ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:53:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But if they don't use one, were they ever truly alive?

aHorseSplashes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:18:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Except Ray Kurzweil.

Supadoopa101 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:20:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bruh.....

Ilikeporsches ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:48:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have used a fan and I'm pretty are I still alive.

Edit. Never mind. I'll die later I guess.

Boonpflug ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:01:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe CRISPR will defeat fan death.

vinash_1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:03:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fanhar morghulis

ArokLazarus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:06:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Every living thing that uses a fan dies alone.

whatdidhesayb4 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:16:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hydrogen monoxide and fans are the number 1 cause of death in humans.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:30:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

fan luv

cogenix ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:32:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

PSEUDOSCIENCE TRIGGERED

BallinHonky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:35:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

truth in advertising

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:29:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can't dispute this.

SevensSea ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:47:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh...shi

HandsomeBobb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:58:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In 7 days...

Page_Won ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:17:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This just in, 100% of people who consume water DIE.

Butthole__Pleasures ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:39:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's a bit pessimistic, isn't it?

ixora7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:59:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nono. Its everyone who drinks water.

P__K ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:55:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

According to quantum suicide and immortality, you will never die (in the world that you experience).

penatbater ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:50:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is this like The Ring, but instead, The Fan?

cowzroc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:58:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT HOW DANGEROUS DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE IS??

liftoffer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:25:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fact

pink-owl-parade ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:34:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also, everyone who hasn't used a fan will die.

Genocide_Bingo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:01:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dihydrogen Monoxide has been linked to the death of every human in history.

pharmdmaybe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:28:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not my parents. They used fans and they are ALREADY DEAD. ๐Ÿ˜Ÿ

jaxturbo3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:47:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, you're getting it backwards. Everyone who has had a hamster will die.

Project2r ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:49:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It is known.

FunkyFireStarter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:30:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well you aren't wrong.

InternetProp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:26:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And everyone else too... Eventually

bless_ure_harte ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:57:46 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everyone that uses dihydrogen monoxide will die

Buddrew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:14:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everyone will die eventually.

Viciuniversum ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:37:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It did. The fan was pleased with his offering and let him live.

geared4war ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:38:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thus the saying..
When the hamster hits the fan.

PM_ME_YOUR_RegEx ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:58:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It took the sacrifice life it needed and allowed /u/Stoofandthings to proceed.

jonosvision ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:51:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

squeek squeek squee-BZZZZPPPPPPPPPP

SonicFlash01 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:39:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You have to use the fan on someone else within 7 days

whatsausername90 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:51:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The hamsters were the canaries.

touch_my_tra-la-la ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:36:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One time my mom accidentally vacuumed my escaped hamster. Luckily the cocksucker was too fat to get sucked though!

TyDunn18 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:44:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a hamster that died and I always sleep with a fan. It could've been the fan, but it was probably because I accidentally hit it with a drum stick.

WaitWhyNot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:14:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I guess the hamsters weren't fans

_Fudge_Judgement_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:01:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is the only logical conclusion.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:04:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Only a life can pay for a life.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:10:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It was the oxygen.

RonWisely ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:54:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Only if they were Korean.

G8kpr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:28:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fan hamster death confirmed.

I_Shall_Upvote_You ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everyone who hasn't used a fan will die.

Damn_Croissant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah but he/she has been sleeping with it for 8 years, so it's safe to assume it's not dangerous for him/her.

mechanc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:32:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ah, so THAT'S where the term Hamster in The Coalmine comes from.

WhiskeyCup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:05:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He said they were gone not dead, sheesh.

sittinonthesofa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

the hamsters took the bullet

AnticitizenPrime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:51:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Instructions unclear. Hamster caught in fan.

white_rabbit0 ยท 907 points ยท Posted at 03:40:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hate that high-pitched ringing sound in quiet rooms. I need that fan noise.

BurmecianSoldierDan ยท 1853 points ยท Posted at 04:20:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think you just have tinnitus. Take care of your hearing!

TheSixthVisitor ยท 293 points ยท Posted at 05:23:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait, I thought the ringing was normal? I've heard it ever since I could remember.

Then again, I thought migraines with aura were just regular headaches until I was told that's what they were.

koreth ยท 229 points ยท Posted at 05:30:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The ringing is common (tinnitus is pretty widespread) but it's a disease and most people don't hear it. Nobody really knows exactly what causes it and there's no known cure. For most people it's a minor annoyance at most, though some people have very severe tinnitus that interferes with their daily lives.

I've had it since childhood, possibly from birth. Luckily I'm on the "minor annoyance" end of the spectrum; it's always there if I pay attention to it but if I'm focused on something else I don't notice it.

feckinghound ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 07:12:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

r/documentaries had a short doc on their front page awhile ago about a woman who got the go ahead to euthanise herself because of her tinnitus. She couldn't spend time with her young family or go outside because of the noise, even talking was extremely painful. She was totally debilitated.

I'll find it and post it later.

Edit: https://youtu.be/HGcUJ2Dg3uo

[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 08:46:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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abstract_misuse ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 08:51:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Apparently deaf people can still get tinnitus: https://www.quora.com/Can-deaf-people-get-tinnitus

CyanWyvern ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 08:59:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit there's no escape ): and here I was thinking I'd rather be deaf than have perpetual ringing

14u2c ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:02:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It doesn't sound like she had tinnitus. Instead of a ringing when sound is absent, normal sounds are amplified to an unbearable level for her. Does seem like deafening might have been worth a try.

zzCratoszz ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 05:53:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There was a reddit thread on this. There is an exercise you can do for the mussels in the back of your head. Its suppose to temporarily remove the ringing if it ever gets too bad.

FadedPoster ยท 134 points ยท Posted at 07:25:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good lord if you have mussels in the back of your head I urge you to see a doctor. Or a sea captain.

OneGoodRib ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 07:34:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That happens when you spend too much time floating in the ocean without swimming.

RageNorge ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:53:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bootstrap Bill style?

Billthehill ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:00:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Clam your fingers in your ears!

Blujay12 ยท 117 points ยท Posted at 06:37:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

please fucking link it for the love of any fucking holy lord in heaven hallowed be their name I need this.

ThatTyedyeNarwhal ยท 133 points ยท Posted at 06:48:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Place your palms over your ears, with your middle finger on the back of your head, just above the center. Place your forefingers on top of your middle finger, and snap down. It should be almost like a drum, continue doing this with both hands in sync for about 30-45 seconds. Have a few seconds of bliss.

From what I remember.

Blujay12 ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 06:57:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

made it sound like a cricket chirp and made it less loud, still going on for 4 minutes.

I love you so much sir.

maaghen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:14:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

making fists with your hands and placing them at the back of your neck and rolling them up and down might help a bit to.

Egween ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 07:21:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh my god! I had no idea this was a thing. I thought the ringing was normal! I just tried it and it works!

idonteven93 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 07:17:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Omg this really works.

AnticitizenPrime ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 07:55:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've heard so many stories about how this works, right here on reddit, but for the life of me I can't figure out how it's different than just smacking the back of your head. Isn't that's all that's really happening here? Why the snapping and weird hand placement?

NoOneLikesNebraskans ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 08:19:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

He chooses a dvd for tonight

mcspork ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:35:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Have you tried and experimented? Let us know!

AnticitizenPrime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:41:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well I don't have tinnitus.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:43:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This makes it worse for me and changes the tone, instead of a small silent ring I can usually tone out, it turns into a low pitch flutter.

Koras ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:06:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh my god the silence.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:38:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Seconded

blobfish2000 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:41:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think it was called beating the heavenly drum. There were 2 exercises that you can look up IIRC. a 5 sec google search led to this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pcPr3266as

Ozziw ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:08:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"This practice calms, clears the mind, improves hearing, strengthens the kidneys..."

Uuuhm...

quickbeam2 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:45:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:53:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This one i remember!

Billthehill ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:00:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So you possibly suffer with tinnitus I see.

kevindlv ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:53:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

mussels

lanadelstingrey ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:03:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What can I do for the clams in the back of my head?

koreth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, that seemed to work for a bunch of people. Didn't have any effect at all on me, but probably worth digging up and trying it.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:42:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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ThatTyedyeNarwhal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:49:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Apparently doing this relaxes the muscles in your ears for a few seconds, but it doesn't last very long. Maybe it's a placebo, as well.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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ThatTyedyeNarwhal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:19:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Huh. I have no idea then. Thanks for the info!

r3gnr8r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:55:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For those few of us who are /r/earrumblersassemble can also use our gift to get rid of the ringing on demand.

source: have tinnitus and can rumble.

keysofmusic ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:56:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've had it since I was a kid too, and I had great hearing. I was actually talking to my mom about it a couple months back whenever I was having a day where the ringing randomly got louder than normal. I mentioned I'd had it since I was a kid, and she said she didn't know that. I then reminded her of all the times I complained of a ringing noise in my ears that no one else could hear.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:39:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nobody really knows exactly what causes it and there's no known cure.

There are different kinds of tinnitus, but the most common type is caused by hyperactivation of the auditory cortex of the brain in response to decreased signal from the inner ear. Similar to what happens in phantom pain, but phantom sound instead of pain. There are successful treatment options based on rehabilitation (tinnitus retraining therapy). Sometimes a hearing aid helps. No pills or TV Shop remedies though.

GoldenPenisOfDeath ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:44:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

... I thought this was normal.

I'm 13 and I've got this, I always bugged my mom about the "weird high pitched screaming bugs" outside during the night.

I sleep with a fan and it doesn't really effect anything so eh.

abstract_misuse ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:51:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you sure those aren't cicadas?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JJz36rSob0

GoldenPenisOfDeath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:06:27 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hear it in the car with the engine off and the doors closed too...

soo no.

Jihad-me-at-hello ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:22:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nobody really knows exactly what causes it

Aliens

fabulous_frolicker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:45:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck I just noticed it.

Runnin_Mike ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:56:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've had it since birth and I kind of fit somewhere in the middle. Sometimes it's just a minor annoyance, but sometimes it's loud enough to drown out everything else around me. A fan or TV is a requirement for me to sleep anymore.

whip_the_manatee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:08:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The short explanation is that excessively loud sounds (or loud sounds over an extended period of time) can bend the small hairs in your inner ear so far (or for so long) that they 'break'. This causes your brain to think it's still hearing these 'broken' frequencies as a sort of phantom sound [aka the ringing].

SuminderJi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:19:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was a kid they would turn into voices. Nothing I could really understand but they were clearly voices speaking. Stopped when I was a young teen though.

DodgyBollocks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:26:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've had it as far back as I can remember. I also have sinus issues that aggravate it and migraines so I'm kind of fucked. Most of the time I don't even notice it, usually it's when I'm sitting in the car or laying in bed that It annoys me.

Anne_Franks_Dildo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:33:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just a quick fix: it's not a disease

koreth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:45:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How do you define "disease" such that tinnitus isn't one?

Anne_Franks_Dildo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:03:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Tinnitus is defined as a symptom of a larger problem such as age related hearing loss

SplarkGriswold ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:33:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not really a cure but I had it for 20 years, sometimes to the point where people would talk to me and I could watch their mouth move but all I heard was the buzzing and ringing in my head. It went away when I figured out what my food allergies were and cut out those ingredients. I like silence now.

JackHarrison1010 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Basically everyone sometimes has the "minor annoyance" tinnitus.

Hank_McNeilly ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 06:28:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was a kid I could tell when my parents, upstairs in the TV room, turned off the TV because the ringing suddenly got quieter. Old TVs were noisy!!

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:30:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

These days I hear a similar, though less intense, noise from some lcds that are turned off but plugged in. I'm pretty sure it's bad caps squealing.

MrBoulderShoulder ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:00:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do bad caps squeal? Never had that happen in many many projects/experiments/electrocutions. CRT televisions make that squeal because of the high voltage flyback transformer that, simply put, draws the picture on the screen. They run at high frequency, just past the edge of human hearing. You're (ELI5 here, switching and transformers gets complicated) hearing the electricity turning on and off usually at about 20kHz. Newer CRTs have the ability (usually hidden to the consumer under the plastic body) to be tuned as the transformer and other components can slowly and very slightly change frequencies, sometimes dragging the squeal lower and makes it more annoying.

Sorry about the rant.

TL;DR: Transformers can make noises. Probably shouldn't touch them.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:50:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I'm aware that it's the transformer you hear in old tv's, nice ELI5 though!

I've had a few things develop a squeal that wasn't present before the caps went bad. I'm not sure exactly what it is, could be the caps themselves or it could be the circuit trying to charge the bad caps I guess. I'm far from an expert though, just noticed it happen.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:50:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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Hank_McNeilly ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:13:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Possible. I just thought I had a super power as a kid. I could tell when the neighbors turned their TV off.

doublehyphen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:20:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:46:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same, this still happens to me and I hate having to use a CRT tv/monitor because of this

Atario ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:52:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wyndrunner ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 06:48:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought headaches with aura were flashbacks from my acid days. Took me 30 years to learn they were migraines.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:32:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ringing in ears is so common that it's essentially normal. Especially if you ever expose yourself to loud noise. Just be careful with loud noise and disregard the ringing.

mrkiddi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:40:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ocular migraine is s bitch. ever temporarily lost your vision due to a migraine?

TheSixthVisitor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit, yes. Just this huge swathe of sight where you can't process what's going on in there. And whenever somebody asks you to try and explain what you're seeing, you're kinda like "Uh dude there's a huge chunk of my vision gone I don't know what you want me to do."

_JohnTitor_Unlimited ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:20:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy crap dude, I have that high-pitched ringing sound, I hear the Hum, have spasms, have migraines with aura ... I'm messed up!

NeauxWai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:43:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It depends. There's the electronic buzz that's common in many houses and there's tinnitus. I have tinnitus and can tell the difference, but I can't really explain it.. =/

Edit: then again, I might just have tinnitus to varying degrees of intensity.

TheDaveWSC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:50:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haha I've had tinnitus since I can remember (I assume since birth, but who knows), and I remember in high school I had a PE teacher who had SEVERE tinnitus. Like you had to talk very loudly to him.

That was when I realized not everybody had it and I was like shiiiiiiit.

Jack_Bartowski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:59:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I also thought it was normal. I lived in the mountains as a kid and my parents just told me it was the bugs(Fuck Cicadas) but ive heard this ringing for as long as i can remember as well. Comes and goes, sometimes its quite loud, other times i can barely hear it.

FieelChannel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:57:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I tried to explain auras to anybody the reaction was being looked upon like I was totally insane or making everything up, then i always have to Google that up to convince people. Fucking hell learn trusting people, fucking idiots.

notfunnybutheyitried ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:06:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some peoples ears actually make a little bit of sound and some of those people can actually hear that. It's called "objective tinnitus"

I've had it since I was a kid, and not because of sound damage. I recently got my ears checked by my Otorinolaryngologist (or however that kind of doctor is called in English) and apparently I am very good of hearing so it couldn't be a form of subjective tinnitus as far as I know.

Dragonofdark97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:48:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know what you mean, i hear it in the top of my head while my dad who has tinnitus (and I do a bit) say that it's more ear. I hope this makes sense but I'm very tired so it could all be mumbo jumbo.

nomadProgrammer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:41 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lol bro. welcome to the club you have tinnitus the less you think about it, the less you notice it. If you make a deal out of it it becomes louder, then you totally forget.

AbigailLilac ยท 82 points ยท Posted at 04:43:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can get it without it being your fault. I have it pretty bad from my parents blasting loud music around me when I was a baby/child.

hat-TF2 ยท 168 points ยท Posted at 05:04:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I actually had it temporarily from a massive wax build up in my ears. I thought my hearing was wrecked at the time, because I was kind of deaf, too. I even started learning sign language. When I got the gall to go to the doctor (I put it off so long because I didn't want to hear I was going deaf), I had to get him to write his questions on paper for me because I could barely hear him. Took him a while to clean out my ears, and when it was finished... well I nearly cried out of terror I was so shocked at the things I could hear!

That's probably one thing I learned from my parents which I had to unlearn. Cleaning my ears with q-tips.

[deleted] ยท 185 points ยท Posted at 05:20:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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seth-the-wizard ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 05:34:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

lmao

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:45:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So he took a sharpie and wrote on posterboard, You Are Going Deaf

ninjabob64 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:30:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This just happened to me last week. Those first few hours after getting my ears cleaned, I just kept thinking "people can hear all this shit?!" It was like living on another planet. I am never using Q tips in my ears again.

Rush_nj ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:40:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have to get my ears cleaned out every couple of months because i both produce a lot of ear wax and my ears are a shape that causes them to be blocked easily. I generally don't notice it until bam, the wax completely blocks the ear. Then i go get it cleared out and it's like someone has turned the volume from 2 to 10.

imperabo ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:10:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Interesting comment deserves visibility.

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:23:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He deserves to be HEARD!!!

hk12345903084 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

WHAT DID YOU SAY???

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dad?

jellytrack ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:15:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cleaning your ears with q tips causes build up?

0bi-JuAn ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 05:18:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well q tips aren't meant for cleaning your ears, just drying them. Most people end up just slamming earwax together into their ear which ends up clogging your whole canal

[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 05:21:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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jellytrack ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:30:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When you hit the right spot, it feels so good...

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:26:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And then it hurts.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:41:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:46:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

w/your elbow

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:48:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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kalechipsyes ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:22:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Very likely, it is because of the qtip - my ex's ears were always super crusty and dried out on the outside because he obsessively swiped them with q-tips all the time. They basically had repetitive indian burns.

He also had bad hearing (maybe - this could also have been a lie to avoid accountability, but he never ever went to the doctor to get it checked...).

riqk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:07:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No one's looking way inside your ear where you put the q-tip, homie. Just wash your ears and they'll look fine.

Severe_Punishment ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:11:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

It's since been answered, but soap and water with your finger and a wash cloth around it (not wrapped up to stick inside either) If it's larger than your finger it doesn't belong in there.

Once a month I'll "flush" my ears out with a device meant to do so

This thing

I've never had an ear infection , nor any odd amounts of build up and my hearing is still good.

piratepowell ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:17:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You really don't need to clean your ears. As long as you're going through chewing motions at some point, that will break up any excess wax. You can certainly clean the outside of the ear canal, and if anyone cares about visible earwax in your ear enough to mention it to you they're probably an asshole.

I do use qtips inside my ear though. I do a swirl technique, only applying pressure when moving the head of the qtip in a circular (sideways) motion and then out, never pushing the qtip in while pressing against the side of the ear canal. If that makes sense. If the qtip gets stuck and you can't do a swirl motion or apply pressure against one side then you've gone too far. I also equalize voluntarily throughout the day as a habit, making sure that my ears clear in a consistent manner.

JasePearson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:30:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bobby Pin?

When I was a kid I got a real bad ear infection and ever since then the wax buildup is fucking awful, but I can't keep going back to the doctor over it, so we used a bobby pin and it just, well, works? I've probably done more damage some how but I can hear for the moment.

jsmit42 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:59:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In asia, ear picks are popular. They use them instead of q-tips. Takes a great deal of trust to let somebody poke next to your eardrum though

cardinal29 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:18 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

These things feel amazing and do a great job.

Rolendahl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:06:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They say you just flush hot water in them and that's enough but I think that's bs. I just use qtips then once a month or so I'll use Debrox, which basically disintegrates all the wax in your ear.

Serritor ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:29:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you use Q-tips after a long hot shower the wax should be at a warm enough temperature that it would be fine to use them as the wax will be soaked up by the cotton. Otherwise people tend to just just compact the wax into their ear with the Q-tips causing a buildup that causes hearing loss and other problems.

nybbas ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:09:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Q tips are the perfect shape to push that earwax deeper into your ear canal and smash it against the canal walls. Depending on your anatomy and how much wax your produce they can't easily cause a wax buildup over time.

Don't clean your ear canals with q tips. They aren't meant for that. I use a Bobby pin, but that's because I'm an idiot, you shouldn't do that either unless you absolutely know what you are doing, and even then you really probably shouldnt. Just run water in your ear every time you showeread and make sure to drain it after.

Dear_Occupant ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:04:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dude I would not put a bobby pin in my ear even if I had a Lockpick skill of 100.

raphus_cucullatus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:15:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bobby pin? Uh..no thanks.

Jabub93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:19:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I use a Bobby pin

Jesus fuck

wildtabeast ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:33:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sticking q-tips in your ear is not good.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:55:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I got a really bad viral infection a few weeks ago and spread from my throat, nose, chest, and finally ears. I first started hearing a metallic sounding echo to everything i hear and has now end with permanent tinnitus.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:38:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

massive wax build up...thought my hearing was wrecked at the time...because I was kind of deaf, too...

Beyond Q-Tips: Learning to Make Connections.

Captain_Cunder_Thunt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait so what are you supposed to clean your ears with?

Dear_Occupant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:07:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There are cleaning kits you can get at most drug stores that come with a liquid to break down the wax and a turkey baster type of thing for sucking out the nasty orange juice that's left behind. I'd been using cotton swabs all my life and the first time I tried one of those kits I felt like the Daredevil. I could hear shit inside people's houses.

Don't waste your money on "ear candles," they're a bunch of worthless health fad bullshit.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:42:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You started learning sign language because you couldn't hear but you couldn't deal with a doctor saying you were deaf.

Magnetronaap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:57:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I believe a doctor fucked up my ears that way and caused me to now have tinnitus. Could obviously be that I never noticed, but I'm pretty sure I didn't have it until a few years back.

grasshopperson ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:23:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do you ever use a showerhead massager to stream high pressure water deep into your ear canal for the best ear cleaning? I do and it is orgasmic!

piratepowell ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:18:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not sure if sarcasm, but don't do this ever.

grasshopperson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:12:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

:( I do it all the time. is it going to destroy my eardrums?

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 06:00:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why would you unlearn cleaning your ears?

the_beard_guy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:49:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus, I used to hang out with a couple who did that. I kept saying "doesn't this bother your kids hearing?" They always said nah, but i would catch them yelling at their kids for something asking if they heard them and the kid would always shrug.

I feel bad for those kids when they get older. Their parents are not good people.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:08:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, sometimes you just can't do anything about it. I was stationed at two different bases during my Air Force career, one with F-16s and the other with B-2 bombers. Both are extremely loud when taking off, and prolonged exposure will get you.

Arrigetch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:09:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is the use of hearing protection not standard when working around jets?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:22:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, depending on how close your are. I was never close enough to require them and it's more something that came on gradually over years.

BurmecianSoldierDan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:48:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Definitely! Protecting the rest of it is still important though, it's a pretty one way street.

Iamdanno ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:04:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's a bit late for that.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:22:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just a quick question before I google it. How exactly does one take care of their hearing??

hey_steve ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:38:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For me the first thing I started doing when I got serious about saving my ears was turning my music down. I always try to make sure that I have the volume at such a level that I could hear someone nearby saying my name without having to yell at me. Also, whenever you go to a concert or have to be around sustained high decibel noise like construction, bring some earplugs.

FUCKITIMPOSTING ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:43:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mainly keeping your headphones down in volume. If you can't hear them because of background noise, try lowering the background noise rather than turning the music up). Noise-cancelling headphones can be good for that.

mikhel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:37:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wear earplugs if you go to really loud concerts or clubs. Keep earphones at a volume where you can still hear people around you.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:37:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you ever work in loud environments make sure you have hearing protection. Most jobs I've worked it's encouraged but not enforced, they aren't going to follow you around and tell you to use them.

Everyone thinks about power tools and machinery but one of the most jarring can be hammering. Depending on the material it can be barely noticeable until you stop right through to one hit and your ears are ringing.

BernumOG ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:20:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

oh is that what i have. wow.

edit: i always imagined tinnitus to be much worse than the high pitched noise i hear when i'm alone and doing nothing. i guess i don't have it that bad.

Inkertus_0 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:09:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Tell that to everyone else. I can't take care of my hearing if they don't help in not making a SHITTON OF NOISE sometimes.

Reggie-Sober ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:57:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That high-pitched ringing from electronics is annoying as well

saudade_in_porto ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:18:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Confirmed. Have tinnitus. Like fan.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:33:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks Archer

Farghobbles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:10:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That explains a lot...

ErockSnips ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:24:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

mawp

yungmung ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:26:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mawp! Mawp! Mawwwp!

frzr-csgo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:20:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

TIL that ringing isn't normal.

Sielle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:17:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

2am, silent room. Just turned off the fan and my ears are ringing. But I also have a horrible head cold at the moment and can't manage to equalize the pressure in my ears because of it (been SCUBA diving for decades so I know how). If this is what tinnitus is like how do people live with it? It's driving me nuts at the moment.

ejoman113 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:47:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just turned down the volume on my earbuds after reading this

WilmaFingerdo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not much you can do once you have it unfortunately. Fans and white noise machines are God sends though

IamMomsFavorite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No! That's how the silence sounds to me too; it's awful!

themcp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If they have tinnitus, it's already too late.

listen- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:51:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have tinnitus. It's incredibly annoying and maddening. Always wear ear plugs to concerts no matter how uncool you look. You can hear the music more clearly anyway. And when you work somewhere where there's an option to wear earplugs because of the noise... Yeah... Wear them. Took 12 years for them to make it mandatory at my job

asspirin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:10:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mawp.

Phantom_61 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hear the same thing, until I get away from civilization by camping.

I can also hear the oscillation of projection screen TV's.

HonaSmith ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:25:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It could also be the sound of electical appliances. Non flat screen TVs for instance have a static noise at all times even if there's no sound on.

Tizzysawr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:55:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Doesn't have to be their fault- and it doesn't have to be tinnitus either!

I suffer from occasional tinnitus myself, and I've never in my life heard proper silence. It's always that high-pitched ringing like white noise - I recall as a child often thinking my parents were still up because I'd hear white noise like the one that came out of CRT TVs, only to find out they were asleep and it was just me hearing weird stuff.

I thought that was part of tinnitus, but I've had friends tell me it's like it for them too, I just happen to notice it more since I have very delicate senses. Quite a lot of people hear that ringing - in my case it's particularly noticeable at night when everyone is asleep and the city goes silent.

BurmecianSoldierDan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:15:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's actually kind of worrisome that I haven't actually experienced any of that. Maybe I don't hear frequencies correctly.

Lollerstakes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It can also come from electronics. An old phone charger of mine makes one hell of a whining/ringing noise.

Ketoloser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:57:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Whatever, everyone has that!! (Sufferer since I could remember :'( )

whitechocmbg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:10:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

MAWP

positivevybz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:13:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shit. I thought it was normal too. Off to the doctor

PhaedrusAqil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:39:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shit, I never noticed until you told me. Now I started hearing it!

ggs_llc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:48:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mawp!

purpleslug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:06:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have tinnitus and very good hearing, it depends on various factors it seems.

camzabob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:44:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait, really? Fuck.

Zarnerz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:05:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

MAWP

kickpuncher08 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:47:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What??!!!

TakeMeToChurchill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

MAWP

47buttplug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:46:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought the "ringing" you hear when it's dead quiet is just the lack of stimulus so you're ears ring ever so slightly

Broodd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:49:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've had tinnitus ever since I can remember. I remember bringing up that "ringing sound when no one is talking" to my parents when I was about seven. Didn't go get it all checked out until I was fifteen.

CowboyLaw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

MAWP!

choreander ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

MAWP

CWSwapigans ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Could be tinnitus, but a ton of various chargers and power bricks give off a high-pitched whine, especially if they aren't charging something. I find I can often hear them when other people can't (even though I'm not that young), so not everyone deals with it.

MrNaoB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I fucking hate when my charger makes that sound. Then i usually go to to the store and buys a new one. And that sound makes my stomach hurt.

[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 04:37:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's the shadow people wailing

omega0678 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 05:27:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The shadow people need to shut the fuck up.

MutatedPlatypus ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 03:53:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought I was the only one who heard the demon song. Praise Tinnitelzebub, fellow listener!

AbigailLilac ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 04:44:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Tinnitus.

another-social-freak ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:57:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You are being downvoted because they obviously know it's tinnitus

AbigailLilac ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:22:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks, I didn't know if the person I replied to knew or not. Oh well.

Jonathan_the_Nerd ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:10:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just unplug the high-pitched hum generator.

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:43:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're probably hearing your electronics. Unplugging TVs, monitors, computers, chargers, etc... will help.

piratepowell ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:23:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is also a thing. I can hear some of my AC adapters (especially the cheap ones), so I'll unplug them when not in use or just put on music until I fall asleep.

AwkwardBurritoChick ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:51:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

mynoise.net can help you with that. Quiet is supposed to be quiet..

theobanger ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:43:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm yet to find the bastard with the dog whistle, but when I do...

Zardif ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:52:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My brain gets bored so it invents noises usually there are three. The demonic woman who yells indecipherable demonic words at me from above window. The suave devil man the with chilling voice that suffocates you with murderous intent from the corner to the right of the window. And finally I hear a radio from another corner which I thought for the longest time was actually the metal in the house acting as an antennae and something else vibrating to provide the songs. Eventually I went through every channel trying to find it and came up empty adding it to list of auditory hallucinations.

They are harmless, just the brain bored so it makes shit up.

boofadoof ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:31:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I need that precious air flow. Feels like the air has gone bad if it isn't swirling around.

defmacro-jam ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:03:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hate that high-pitched ringing sound in quiet rooms.

That sound is literally all in your head -- but I find it oddly charming that you thought it was real. I too, have permanent ringing in my ears but I can generally tune it out.

Fancy_Pantsu ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:44:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I'm trying to sleep in a silent room I hear faint voices and piano music.

canadiankoala ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:12:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I started hearing that right after I read this.

EliahBernick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:40:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yea same and now it doesnt stop

RedofPaw ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:34:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have a light on because I hate it when the old woman without eyes stares at me all night long.

Rybis ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:51:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I find it hilarious that you thought that ringing was normal and everyone heard it.

drunky_crowette ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:34:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everyone I date or live with hates that I need tv or an audio book on 24/7. Between the ringing and being scared of it silence is excruciating

Mitch_Mitcherson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:08:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, you might have tinnitus. A temporary way to make it go away is to gently tap the back of your head with your fingers.

BronxLens ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:19:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

FYI, there is an app (iOS) called Sleepy Fan...

Painting_Agency ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:45:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hate the little voice saying "remember all those things you have to worry about tomorrow, let's get a jump on those" myself, but ringing would suck too :/

DoverBoys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:53:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That would be tinnitus. The ringing is caused by ear damage from repetitive high noise, or one time extremely high noise.

SpyderSeven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:41:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For me its not ringing, it's like some kind of hollow pressure. It starts as silence but I start to hear this breathy "whaaaaauuuuugghh" sound of emptiness combined with my heartbeat. Drives me into a rage. Fan noise all the way.

PWAERL ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:12:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Reminds me of the time I was put up in a hotel in the UK. 3 AM at night and I still couldn't fall asleep. Finally I went down to the reception.

"I would like to have a table fan please"

"Pardon me, sir"

"May I have a table fan please?"

"Is the AC not working, sir?"

"It is, please just give me a table fan"

"Sure sir (These Indians are crazy)"

It was easy to fall asleep after that.

SD__ ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:01:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Of course there's no silence. Eight hamsters shagging. Ping. 88 hamsters. Eat a couple. 197 hamsters.

forcebubble ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:05:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Try 36-years. Air-conditioners were a luxury back then and even now I prefer to sleep with the ceiling fan on than chilled air.

TaurineLine719 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:01:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Gotta miss that little rustling sound right? Always wonder wtf they're doing in there

calaber24p ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:33:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have slept with a fan blowing on my face every day for the last 6 years. My dad still tells me that im going to get Bell's Palsy but I keep telling him that there is zero evidence that a fan causes it.

Stoofandthings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:27:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Um keep me updated with your diagnosis lol

desmondhasabarrow ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:43:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In the dead of winter, I still have to sleep with my ceiling fan on high.

Majik9 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:57:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm going on 30 years of sleeping with the fan ... I'd be a zombie in S.K.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:43:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What is the hamster/fan connection?

smellinawin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:14:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I like that hamsters are the main reason for your fan quality of life upgrade.

I have been sleeping with one my entire life. Mostly its to drown out all the noise my family makes outside my room, and its a nice gentle hum to put me to sleep / keep me cool.

Can sleep without them like on vacations / camping. Rarely ever feels as comfortable.

Stoofandthings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:26:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah omg. I seriously dread sleeping elsewhere sometimes lol. At least with camping there's crickets an shit.

idejtauren ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:19:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've died every night this summer.
I can't tell it's from the fan, or the heat.

fnord_happy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:13:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have done so every night for 30 plus years. I can't even sleep without the fan sound

InitiallyAnAsshole ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:27:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I KNOW! It's a god damn curse. Go over to a new gfs place and there's no white noise cause I got used to having a fan, guess I'm not sleeping tonight. It's actually insane. My mind just picks up on any little noise if it isn't washed out now. I used to ONLY be able to sleep in total silence and now I fear I've cursed myself the other way.

UrbanizedGrub ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:17:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank God I'm not the only one who hates sleeping in a silent room.

TheLoveBoat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:58:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

do you know how much electricity you're using every night?

Stoofandthings ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:24:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Probably like 7 electricities

Roxas905 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:01:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same sleeping with a fan on screwed with me. I feel really uncomfortable when I sleep in silence. I always need a slight sound to even fall asleep

PIP_SHORT ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:46:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I told my Korean co-workers that I slept with a fan for years and I haven't died, the answer is invariably the same: "but you are not Korean".

And they just leave it at that, like "yep, that's completely logical... case closed."

sassysassafrassass ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:04:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sentenced to death by exile!

TheMadmanAndre ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:55:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Vegetable oil on the wheel.

kaenneth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:58:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Welcome to the Jungle, Baby.

alidra47 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:34:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

lol super random. what do the hamsters have to do with sleeping with a fan?

Aparty ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:13:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just a guess but hamsters are nocturnal and make a lot of noise at night. A fan would drown out the noise so you can sleep.

prpldrank ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

White noise machine bruh

hambubger2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not so fast... How many hamsters?

Mr-Briteside ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Once you go fan and hamsters, you don't go back

kornkobz69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

why did you start sleeping with a fan when you got hamsters?

Prophet105 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:17:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have a better chance of falling sleeping with some sort of hum or whirring from a fan than complete silence either

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There is no greater joijoyn in life than sleeping with a fan, right next to sleeping with the AC on full blast. That noise sets me right to sleep :)

CireArodum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:35:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nice try, Dokkaebi.

natural-fibers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:40:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I should be dead as well. All year every year I sleep with the fan on. The sound of the fan helps me sleep. I've done this as a child. Still kicking.

NomadicKrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:38:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit, I've been sleeping with a fan for years. Total silence makes me paranoid when I'm trying to sleep.

earth2jason ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:41:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Did you ever get cured of the hamsters?

_The-Big-Giant-Head_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:52:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Korean hamster?

cozmad1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:54:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why is your go-to unit for fan ownership hamster-lives?

Crwuxly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:43:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your hamster sacrificed his life instead of yours to the fan God of death

JakeDoubleyoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:06:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

During the summer my fan is literally on 24/7. I'm a ghost.

joecoolbeans ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:21:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Me too, my tenitis is fucking terrible at night

smoochie100 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:39:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fan just for the noise? What a waste of electricity :/

TELLS_YOU_TO_FUCKOFF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:42:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How do you never wake up with dry-eyes??

Amrityville ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:46:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You probably don't have any fans.

Henkersjunge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:14:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Try rainymood. Its my personal favourite background noise

SpecialSause ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:47:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can't sleep without a fan blowing on me. Even if it's 50 degrees in the house, I still have to have a fan blowing in me. It's more about the moving air than anything else.

Stoofandthings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:19:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For sure, I just hate absolute silence

Ziff7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:40:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Squishy_Pixelz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe your hamsters are Korean.

PeanutButter707 ยท 1698 points ยท Posted at 03:24:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Best Korea has a solution: No electricity means no fans!

Ultimate_Chimera ยท 156 points ยท Posted at 03:43:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You are now moderator of r/pyongyang

john_dune ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 08:39:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sad, i feel like this could be the perfect execution of a joke. Give every moderator of /r/pyongyang the ability to make more moderators of it, and just keep growing the moderator list until eventually a majority of reddit is a moderator there.

I will go write songs about how worst korea ruined this joke.

[deleted] ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 04:09:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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drunkenknight9 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:42:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I believe you are mistaken. Supreme leader is the only admin but all people are moderators unless they require remediation.

heronumberwon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:25:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Should we monitor seven circles of close relatives so they don't escape death?

poseidon0025 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:44:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, but the leader has decided that if there is a very large number of the best normal people, working every waking hour, they can be a suitable stand in for his regular time spent, which while only a few minutes a day, as he is so efficient, is still time he could use being that efficient in other places.

Malgas ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 08:33:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There used to be fans that ran on external combustion engines.

I have a pet theory that this may have something to do with the origins of Korean fan death.

rcoelho14 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:04:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bullshit. Everyone knows that Best Korea has lots of fans. Who wouldn't love Best Korea!

Imperium_Dragon ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:15:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also,no money=no evil capitalist greedy fans!

Forgetmepls ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:30:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Best Korea also has no fans, double safe!

eddhall ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:49:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Only fans of great leader!

MeGustaDerp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:15:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What it someone uses a paper fan nearby someone sleeping?

zerodb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:37:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"We kill your family so your fan doesn't have to!"

J_Rock_TheShocker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You have become a moderator on /r/Pyongyang

Pieguy85 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:16:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You are now a moderator of r/Pyongyang.

ThagaSa ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 03:34:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Isn't it so widely believed that for fans to be legal they have to have an auto shut off to "prevent" this from happening in South Korea?

ArgenAstra ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 04:51:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I will say most young people don't believe it and for the most part its now one of those things parents tell their kids to scare them into good habits. In this case the habit is to shut off electronics to not waste energy when you go to sleep.

itssnowinggg ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:59:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yup

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:40:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is true. Fans in Korea have a sleep timer on them, with a little dial you can set that goes up to about 45 minutes. However, you can also just switch them on like normal fans if you don't happen to believe in that fan death crap.

I live in Korea currently, and once I slept at a homestay while on a hiking trip, sharing a room with a co-worker who was Korean. It was in August, it was hot and humid as all hell, and we were sharing a tiny room with only a fan to keep the two of us cool. Normally, the fan might not have mattered, but were on the floor and the windows were too high off the floor for us to feel any breeze that came in.

So this guy would turn on the fan using the sleep timer, lay down to go to sleep, and then -- after the fan shut off about 45 minutes later -- he would wake up (because he had gotten too hot, of course) and turn on the fan with the sleep timer again, only to repeat this cycle over and over again throughout the night.

At one point, I actually switched the fan on with the regular 'on' switch, only for him to put it back on that stupid sleep timer when he happened to wake up to find that the fan was actually on (and probably also that he wasn't hot, the idiot).

SakuraCha ยท 821 points ยท Posted at 03:52:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm pretty sure it's a way to say someone committed suicide. it's easier to say the fan pushed the oxygen out of the room than to say your husband/daughter/coworker killed themselves.

edit: it also insinuates wrongfull or natural death.

0dyssia ยท 607 points ยท Posted at 04:00:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

That's one theory on how it started. Another theory is that the government started it intentionally so people would use less electricity a couple of decades ago. TV doctors would confirm it's true and of course you have a huge not well educated population that will believe it and pass it on to the kids.

edit: when i mean not educated population, I mean people who were young during the Korean war and were probably middle aged or so when the fan death rumors started

instadit ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 07:18:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

While this is plausible, wikipedia states:

One conspiracy theory is that the South Korean government created or perpetuated the myth as propaganda to curb the energy consumption of South Korean households during the 1970s energy crisis, but Slate reports that the myth is much older than that โ€“ dating almost as far back as the introduction of electric fans in Korea, and cites a 1927 article about "Strange Harm from Electric Fans".

The slate article

The source used by the slate article. I can't read korean but the google translation verifies that the source is indeed about a 1927 article and "fan harm"

Topham_Kek ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 05:56:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

The "gov't started fan death rumors" theory I think started from the 70s IIRC, before the whole economic recovery thing happened. I mean, even today Koreans don't use that much electricity for a "developed" nation**(Edit), but I just wish we could at least have the freedom to stay cool in this fucking hot-as-hell summer which makes us feel like our damn Peninsula must be stuck in between Satan's burning arsecrack or something.

Then there's the government screwing us over with the power bills with their stupid new act. While corporations and/or industrial zones get a huge discount.

Thanks, ๋ˆ„์ง„์ œ!

jeffbell ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:59:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe they had charcoal powered fans.

meat_lasso ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:24:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is the funniest comment I've read all day.

Catullan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:44:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't really think education has much to do with it. I lived in Seoul for a while, and it seemed to me that weirdly stubborn beliefs about health were a quirk of the culture - even very well educated people over there bought into them (in my experience, which I'll admit wasn't terribly extensive).

Saint947 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:49:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think you're closer to the mark. In Japan they have loudspeakers that go off every night telling people to turn off their gas.

meat_lasso ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:25:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In which city do you live that does this? The curfew megaphone at 6pm is all over Tokyo, but I've never heard the gas one in over a decade living here.

Saint947 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:21:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fussa, outskirts of Tokyo.

sicklyslick ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:51:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Isn't the South Korean population quite well educated?

0dyssia ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 04:55:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Currently yes, but anyone young during the Korean War, mostly not so much

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:29:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am currently attending a university in Korea majoring in Korean language and literature.

The answer to your question depends on what you mean by 'educated'. If you mean advanced algebra and calculus that the vast majority of people will never have any occasion to apply (or even know what those applications are), or English taught entirely from the point of view of ultra-pedantic grammar rules (with barely any attention paid to actual communicative proficiency), then yes, Koreans are well-educated.

However, in Korean schools before the university level, they generally don't teach much in the way of history, geography, science, or language arts (at least not in the native tongue). Korean high school students barely even learn how to write in their own language.

To give you an idea of how low the bar for writing is, I took a writing class at my university this past semester, and I was actually able to get an 'A' in it -- while having to write in freaking Korean, mind you -- when someone else I know, who is a native speaker, only managed to get a 'C' in the same class. Also, we barely even wrote anything the whole semester, and the only real essay we even wrote served as our final exam grade.

omegashadow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:06:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

...except korean is considered one of the easiest languages to learn to write on the planet.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:27:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was talking about actual composition, as in writing essays and papers. I wasn't talking about just forming syllables. That's kindergarten level stuff.

fNU1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:11:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Very much so.

SD__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm posting from a hotel in Norfolk. This box has webbed corners.

DeniseFromDaCleaners ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:32:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Another theory is that fans.

asshair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'd like to hear about these theories from a Korean person who's lived in Korea,

blunt-e ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:37:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I just don't get how anyone can look at a fan and think it uses oxygen in any shape or form...

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:25:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

^ this is how I learnt it from my umma.

Bingo___Bronson ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:19:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is correct.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:43:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not just a saying though. Korean people and doctors LITERALLY believe that if you have a fan on, ceiling fan or desk fan or otherwise, it can cause suffocation in a closed room. They just straight up believe this, it isn't a euphemism.

raisinhall ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:30:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ohh I thought they couldn't sleep with a fan because they were scared it would fall or something. I get it now.

JoseJimeniz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:38:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Or, I can give you the actual theory. And like cell phones start fires at gas pumps, you won't be able to find fault with the theory except that it's never fucking has happened to anyone ever!

You have the fan on because it's hot. It's a hot night, you have the window open, and the fan on. The fan blows air over you, this evaporates sweat, and the evaporation causes cooling. Thank god, cause it's so damn hot in here.

But it's a really hot night, and you keep sweating. The fan keeps cooling you off by evaporating more sweat. This goes on all night, the body slowly losing water.

  • At five percent, you begin to experience fatigue. You don't notice because you're asleep, it also helps keep you asleep.
  • at ten percent mental deterioration starts - dizziness and thirst
  • at fifteen percent you die

Fan-evaporation-induced-dehydration-leading-to-death syndrome.

I can't really say which part of the theory is wrong. All I can say is that in the decades after electrification nobody has died from it.

AeternumSolus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:55:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But if you didn't have the fan on wouldn't you be sweating even more, accelerating your dehydration?

JoseJimeniz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:02:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

New water can't emerge until old water is off the skin.

It's like not being able to sweat when the humidity is high.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wrongful or natural?

PIP_SHORT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:45:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't forget accidentally drinking yourself to death.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What kinds of death are there besides wrongful and natural?

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:59:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:27:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've lived in Korea for over ten years and have only met a handful of people who don't believe it.

hotchrisbfries ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:57:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This makes much more sense as euphemism than to be taken literally.

aMutantChicken ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 03:32:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In the summer, there is a lot of places that it would feel like sleeping WITHOUT a fan would mean death! Not litterally but still...

venterol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:46:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Experienced this while in Japan one summer. Host family, it's 90 degrees and humid outside and your house doesn't have AC, WTF ARE YOU USING COMFORTERS?!

Kecleon2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Korea is not really one of those places

0dyssia ยท 89 points ยท Posted at 04:05:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It took me a while to break my Korean bf out of this habit. He doesn't believe it kills you, but another common belief is that cold air can make you sick - headaches, colds, stomachaches, etc. I wouldn't surprised if people here believe it caused cancer too. It's because his mother always kept saying it weakens your immune system. I went to a doctor once for a cold and he told me to turn off any fans/ACs at night, I was pretty wtf about it. Anyways, after my bf studied in America where ACs are kept on 24/7 during summer, I pointed out that there's no epidemic of people dying in their sleep or getting sick. He finally realized it's a stupid superstition. After I broke him out that Korean habit, I then had to work on the myth that eating apples at night are bad for you. A working progress.

VerdigrisOdyssey ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 05:49:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good story. If I may correct your last sentence - the saying is, "a work in progress".

probablyhrenrai ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:18:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm guessing autocorrect, specifically "workin progress" to "working progress."

bheal ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:49:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That was my first thought, but the post is well written and doesn't contain other autocorrect nightmares. =)

HanJunHo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:54:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

"Eating apples are...a working process."

HanJunHo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:55:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or it could be a writing mistake.

thenewyorkgod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:35:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For all intensive purposes, you are correct.

Ninwa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:26:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, subbosably.

bossbozo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:48:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The best rumors are ones that have some truth to them (but are blown out of proportion). The truth is you are more likely to contract a cold in dry air than in humid air, thus why colds are more common in winter. Nowadays some a/c have humidity control, so one can keep a higher level of humidity in cooler air. I also once got an eye infection from having a fan blow in my face on high for hours on end while watching tv (thus blinking less), dry my left eye out enough to get an infection.

fivepercentsure ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:11:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

so then what your saying is I never really got sick as a child because I grew up with a swamp cooler instead of an A/C unit?

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:40:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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khthon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:34:04 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've been told the cold weakens our immune system. Extra cold, from drafts and AC makes me feel physically bad. It may be suggestion though given I grew up around this "creed".

OffendedPotato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:18 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i think you're right

Tramagust ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 07:33:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cold air does cause inflammation and being blown with cold air on one side while the rest of the room is hot has been linked to Bell's palsy

It won't kill you but it's not harmless. The thermal shocks that take you from sweltering heat to the freezing cold of the AC is well known to cause immune system depression. This effect is so well documented that in places like Hong Kong everyone gets a cold in the summer because the temperature differential between inside and outside makes them susceptible to the cold infection. This also happened in Dubai when they created that insane skiing ramp that's refrigerated all year round.

Sleeping with the AC on does cause some problems but this time it's not the temperature but the dry air that makes you uncomfortable. If you regularly sleep with the AC on you should add a humidifier to your room.

The longer you are exposed to AC the more you are used to the effects so your body doesn't respond as severely but it is something to consider.

Pelicanen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:23:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Informational response with sources for everything, you da real MVP.

Built-In ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:18:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is hot/cold food a thing in Korean culture?

I was so intrigued when I learned that was a thing during my cultural anthropology class.

khthon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:49 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In Portugal it is the same.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:54:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

after my bf studied in America where ACs are kept on 24/7 during summer

isnt the AC always set to minus a hundred degrees or something in america? i would get sick immediately...

that-freakin-guy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:05:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Our house is 68 degrees minimum. It's amazing.

Not_shia_labeouf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:58:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just don't eat the skins. The skins are riddled with toxins!

khthon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:04 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is true in all of Portugal. An air draft ( corrente de ar) is a death sentence. You'll get pneumonia and die painfully and nobody is taking any chances, not even doctors.

BWarminiusNY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A work in progress.

Taskmaster23 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:23:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why do they think you'll die?

[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 03:33:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Who knows, man. Something about oxygen. Korean people, smh.

Jabbatrios ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 03:42:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If I remember right, it was because of a common belief that the blades of a fan could cut the oxygen atoms in half.

[deleted] ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 03:44:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nuclear fission with a fan blade.

[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:46:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Checkmate, atheists!

space_guy95 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:15:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We've been doing it wrong all these years. With this one simple trick, you too can create nuclear fission...

rata2ille ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:50:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Scientists hate him! Click more

madsci ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:35:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That sounds like a corruption of an actual effect. It happens - not oxygen atoms but oxygen molecules, and not the fan blades, but electrical arcs from motors with brushes. The arcs split O2 molecules into free oxygen radicals, which recombine into ozone, O3.

So it's not completely stupid that someone might get 'fan blades splitting atoms' from that description.

allen_abduction ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:49:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Except, it never happened. :)

madsci ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:06:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Someone dying from it, no. Ozone production from electric motors happens all the time.

Supersnazz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:53:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LetRBudge ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:51:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I heard it was a hypothermia fear.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:31:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Taskmaster23 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:59:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well that's just ridiculous.

theniceguytroll ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:52:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I remember reading somewhere that it was a coverup for suicide. It's considered dishonorable and cowardly to kill yourself, so someone blamed electric fans to cover it up.

Please note, this is a fuzzy recollection with no research done, so don't take my word for it.

Frustriertkoch ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:57:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not just Koreans. I knew a Jahovas Witness who's mom thought his face froze from an oscillating fan. He had Bells Palsy

PM_ME_UR_SPOOKYDOOT ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:26:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My GF's Romanian family all seem to think that "the draft" causes hepatitis. They never state which type of hepatitis though so I figure all of them?

TigerlillyGastro ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:57:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know someone who has the same idea about electric heaters.

eigenvectorseven ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:02:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Probably a weird hangover from the genuine danger of gas heaters.

TigerlillyGastro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:35:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think so, but they are hard to convince that electric heater is safe.

AnnieAnthonyAudrey ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:38:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Damn, I've slept with a fan on my whole life, not because I'm hot but because it's a white noise for me and I can't sleep without it, well not the ceiling fan but a normal fan you plug in, I've gone through maybe 30 fans my whole life keeping them on all the time. I think your parents would think I'm asking for a death wish lmao.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:46:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bought a new house 8 weeks ago. Haven't turned off the master bedroom fan yet. When winter hits I will make it switch directions. I have no plans to ever turn it off. I'll make sure to never show my room to any Koreans. Damn Lane Kim can never come over

khthon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:28 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The pneumonia room. They'd only enter it in hazmat suites.

BottledApple ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:39:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I read your words "Korean fan death" and immediately thought it was some weird, ancient martial art thing with sharpened fans! I saw women throwing and slashing with these ornate traditional painted fans!

Douchewafer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:49:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

y'dont say...

installs industrial size fan in bedroom

Ariannanoel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:58:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

U ok?

Ua_Tsaug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, he is kill.

RosaWoods13 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:04:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Didn't John Lennon die of Fan Death?

Dribbles_25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:25:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Terrible.... but have an upvote anyway for the effort.

MissShadowDragon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:49:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have this fan in my room with the nob missing. It's been on non stop for a week or two now, I literally can't fall asleep without a fan on now.

ltshep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can't sleep in conditions that aren't exactly that. (Except sometimes I have windows open in summer)

plokool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:02:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My girlfriend and I have three fans and a portable AC in our room. We must be super dead.

TaylorS1986 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:06:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought "fan death" started out as a euphemism for suicide and then people started actually believing it was a thing.

gjon89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But why would you even sleep with a fan if you don't have windows open? How are you supposed to circulate cooler air?

Famixofpower ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, I've been contemplating suicide, will update when I go to sleep

lolWireshark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Korean fan deaths are called kitchen fires in Chinese.

TheSubtleSaiyan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:22:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What about ceiling fans?

punkhop23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I should have died years ago

bargman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I married a Korean woman. It took me about 6 months when we started dating to convince her this wasn't true.

Badboyinfinity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm pretty sure that can actually be true and has happened. If the weather is really hot and you don't have air conditioning and you turn on a fan with the windows closed, your house/apt can become a giant conventional oven. I don't remember where, but I remember reading in the news about an old lady dying that way.

SaM7174 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I must die every night....

cleanbubble ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've done this every night for at least the last 4 years. Still alive.

dot-pixis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fans take all of the air out of the room, right? Did you grow up with the Korean fans that have sleep timers on them? Because that's a pretty gangster way to deal with the problem of fan death.

Reptilesblade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have literally done this every single night for nearly the last ten years. Haven't died yet.

Superstition be weird yo.

billiarddaddy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:38:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I heard this when I lived in Seoul. The looks I have my Katusa roomie but he insisted.

theandromedan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've slept with a fan on for years, often in a small room with the doors closed and the windows shut. Sometimes I've even used two fans at once. If this myth had even the slightest chance of being true, it should've taken me out a long time ago.

wanawanka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh no! They got to you!? They believe it like a damn religion. It's getting better but WOW! I feel like Richard Dawkins talking to a fundamentalist sometimes. But every time I talk to a Korean about it they always link their truth back to some strange article about ONE dude who died in the death heat of summer in a closed room with a fan.

The problem is they omit the fact this dude was piss drunk and dehydrated beyond belief and basically made a sauna for himself in the process. Also that fan was probably the only thing supplying any kind of air circulation while he slowly turned himself into a soju raisin.

MMP4444 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know that one from a spell grammar test app for iOS from a few years ago

jkonkel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well... if it were an exhaust fan... maybe

3jt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:49:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

TIL I'm dead

Toad32 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:49:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A loud fan is the Best sleeping aid.

BitFlip32 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I sleep with my fans all the time and not one of them has tried to kill me. :p

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

which is weird because in China it's the opposite, even in the middle of the winter... assholes!

hippocratical ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:53:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I taught there for a couple of years. Taught big business types in Gangnam (South Korea's Manhattan), also students and other well educated people.

I loved doing a fan death class, although I had to be a little careful, as everyone believed it so strongly, it could make them a little defensive if I outright called bullshit on it.

It became more fun to simply ask simple questions and get them to start to realise the madness of it. I'd say a good 3rd of students didn't even realise that it wasn't a world-known fact.

Faoneus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dude, I sleep with my fan on, all night, every night. I can't sleep without it.

Rage42188 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like the plot to a j.j. Abrams movie.

DarthPoptart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I live in Southern California. I need fans/doors open or I will eventually light on fire.

CSI_Tech_Dept ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How was your first time sleeping with fan on? I mean when you thought all your life it was dangerous, you must had some doubt "what if my parents were right all along"?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

IT'S FUCKING TRUE

Back story: Had fan on, dog closed door. Am promptly died.

funfungiguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

My father-in-law is black and he had these large, tumorous-looking growths that started growing under his skin a few years ago and he wouldn't see a doctor about them. My wife told him he needs to get then looked at; one of them over his eyebrow had grown big enough almost completely close he eye shut and it obscured his vision. I literally heard his brother, his mother, and a few other folk start saying, "Oh lord no, don't do that. You don't watch air touching them; they'll spread!" My wife's dad agreed no doctors were going anywhere near those things with a scalpel.

Later on I was like, "What the hell is your family saying about not getting air on tumors?" She said it's an older generation black folk superstition. I guess a lot of the older black folks, including her dad, think that if you have a tumor you shouldn't get it removed because it can spread when air touches it. To my knowledge none of them have ever had cancer, but all of them know somebody that died when they were operated on and it spread.

I googled "does cancer spread", and Google took the wheel and added "when air hits it" as an option. So I guess it's a thing in some folks' minds. My in-laws are great people and I wouldn't say they're idiots by any means, but I wouldn't say they're especially well-educated. They came from the rural south, in a mostly all-black poor Oklahoma community. Moved to California and most lived their California lives have been in a ghetto. Most of the older folks still talk a lot about Oklahoma and growing up there. I would even say my dad-in-law, who finished college and made a good middle class life for his wife and kids, is very much poor Southern black in most of his ways. My guess is they haven't really had a lot of formal education, nor the kind of money that affords you the oppurtunities to speak with medical professionals often, and when they do it concerns more immediate concerns rather than discussions on future cancer prevention.

SD__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck. I'm a zombie.

.

I can faithfully inform all the living, the jiggy-jiggy is still possible after death. There is also a zombie supermarket where I buy beer!

hat-TF2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not just Korean. My girlfriend is Japanese and she says this belief is common in her country.

LordofTheRoses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It might not happen as quickly as they believe, but they are not wrong.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That was just a way to cover up suicide

TehKatieMonster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Uh... I have been sleeping with a fan on for about 22 years now, and so has my baby since she was born.

LowlySlayer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My friend lived in a basement with an industrial strength fan. No windows. He still isn't dead.

DGiovanni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Where do I find a fan this time of year!?! I just looked today... I want a fan for this reason... anyone in the Columbus, OH area wanna sell me their fan cheap?

AssViol8er ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

if you sleep with a fan

Groupies. They're called grou-

if you sleep with a fan on

Ohh ok.

randomhumanbein ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Was it the dingo?

ihatethesidebar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm dying

rvyas619 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:14:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

interesting. anyone know the origin of this belief?

Rod_RamsHard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:14:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How does anybody in florida survive

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandparents would not let me sleep with the fan on during hot, humid summers in Korea because they thought I'd suffocate from the added air pressure in the closed off room, something like that.

HuoXue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

365 days a year, I sleep with a box fan pointed directly at me. I absolutely cannot sleep if I don't have a fan on me. Even in winter, when it's -20 out, I need the heater and the fan.

DerpyPotater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents are believers in fan death, but for some reason never want to talk about it. They always tell me "turn off your fan when you sleep" and when I ask they either ignore me or just say "it's not good for you". It's almost like they're aware of how absolutely idiotic the concept is and they wanna spare themselves the embarrassment, but they still avidly believe in it.

Sometimes I just mess with them by seeing how many times I can ask "why" while they're pretending not to hear me and eventually walk away.

Edit: And wtf my parents aren't even Korean.

Destinyspire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:26:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to do this one day cause of forest fire smoke in the city. Windows closed, door closed, fan on. I survived; not much risk at all, lol.

ngwoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How do they deal with knowing that their PC has fans in it?

baltakatei ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:32:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Tell them that you think fan death is a euphemism parents used to avoid explaining their child's suicide... and the euphemism got out of hand and now out-of-the-loop koreans actually believe fans running in lonely people's rooms causes death.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What do they think the mechanism of death is?

FuriousNik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Seriously thought you were talking about a really-likes-your-music kind of fan. I know K-Pop gets a little crazy, but I was like 'How are the rules about sex with your fans this specific?'.

WolfeBane84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm going to buy a bunch of little stickers of fans with that are REALLY hard to peel off and go around and stick them to the cars of every korean I see.

krys2015 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's to be some thing a few as Ian countries share. Had a Filipino bf that refused to sleep with the fan running. Drove me nuts as I have a fan going 24/7 in my room year round.

Pharmakokinetic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I would have died almost every single day for the last 12 or so years, then.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everytime I lose to Koreans in games and feel bad I always remind myself that this is a thing there. I don't feel as bad then

Abderian87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The Japanese say the same thing about air conditioning (probably because it's expensive compared to a paper fan). Blew my students' minds when I told them that in Texas' 40+ degree summers, everywhere has A/C on all the time and no one catches the dreaded cold.

Ball_IsLife2317 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:42:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I literally do this every day. Including right now.

bbonthec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:42:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My wife is Korean. It took some really heated arguments and hard scientific evidence before she believed me. Summer nights have been much more bearable since.

MyriadMuse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:42:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Am Japanese... am paranoid about my fan if I put it on full power but this just sounds silly.

Bleumoon_Selene ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:44:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

May I ask why they believe this? Or is it just one of those, "It just will" things?

wickedbadnaughtyZoot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Maybe if Korea suffered enclosed room heat index over 32 C/ 90 F.? From Wiki "fan death":

Air movement will increase sweat evaporation, which cools the body. But in extreme heat โ€“when the blown air is warmer than the body's temperature โ€“it will increase the heat stress placed on the body, potentially speeding the onset of heat exhaustion and other detrimental conditions. The American Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) discourages people from using fans in closed rooms without ventilation when the heat index is above 32 ยฐC (90 ยฐF). The EPA does, however, approve of using a fan if a window is open and it is cooler outside, or when the heat index in a closed room is lower. [5]

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:47:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm in a room with a fan running, with the windows closed...

ITS ALIVE SEND HELP

Everything is alright - Fan

tickingboxes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How could someone possibly believe this? Do they think it's magic? What do they think is the mechanism at work here?

The_Fecal_Bandit ยท 9027 points ยท Posted at 23:01:55 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I do not have to say sorry for everything. I used to say "I'm sorry" for everything. Reached for the same cookie? Sorry! We had different opinions and you're frustrated? Sorry! Didn't grab the right bag of groceries out of the truck? Sorry! I said sorry for everything, even when cashiers didn't have nickels to give me back at change, I apologized for me causing them that incovience. Unlearning that is still a struggle at times.

Edit: WOW I stepped away for a few days and this exploded! Thank you for all the upvotes and the gold! I'm happy my comment resonated with so many of you.

Manleather ยท 4234 points ยท Posted at 23:56:57 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sorry it's been such a struggle for you

Fiddler_by_the_pond ยท 1832 points ยท Posted at 01:06:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Canada is that you!?

johngreenink ยท 168 points ยท Posted at 01:27:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dad?

LordoftheSynth ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 04:23:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not your real dad.

Sorry.

toadofsteel ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:36:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not your son, buddy!

max81968 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:09:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not your buddy, pal!

szarin17 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:17:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not your pal, bro!

Zoninus ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:12:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not your bro, dude!

Penetrative_Pelican ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:45:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not your dude, guy!

fuzzybeaner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Easy there fellas

Ronald_Reagan_AMA ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 03:13:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When are you getting back from the store?

lanternkeeper ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 04:56:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm waiting on the cashier to give me my nickels. Sorry.

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:37:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How's your trickle-down economics going?

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:02:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hey its me ur dad.

Sthepker ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:10:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

hey its me ur father

do_a_flip ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:06:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Canadad? I'm sorry, I had to

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:15:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You'd hope your Dad was't a /u/Fiddler_by_the_pond

RiceAdvocate ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:27:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

sorry, he's still out

NWmba ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Me? Is that you?

TenderWoman ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:22:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's me your brother!

mtownes ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:50:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, this is Patrick

Inc-Roid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:22:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Marleau?

Frustrable_Zero ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:32:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sorry, not sorry. I'm so sorry!

SkipperThe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:42:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The whole country only has one Reddit account, that's really nice of them.

runningeek ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:51:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No it is not. Sorry.

DarkNinjaMole ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:28:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It is. Sorry we didn't make it more clear and you had to ask.

CrowdyFowl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:34:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sorry, was it too obvious?

afroturf1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:40:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nah that's /u/Manleather

BoyKingOfSweden ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:49:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ohhhh saaauurrrry

gadgetroid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:59:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sorry, but you're absolutely right!

PhiliChez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:40:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought those words and then clicked to load more comments and saw this. I died from the laughter kinda.

mkemttn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:41:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No this is Patrick.

Iamananorak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:34:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is a Minnesotan right here

bearsito ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:40:32 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sorry, yes it is.

PM_Me_Steam_Games_Yo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:02:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Savage

Cobbleking32486 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:05 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"stop saying sorry so much!"

"Sorry."

NiandraL ยท 117 points ยท Posted at 02:31:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am aware I do this but haven't moved towards stopping at all - I just have this huge need not to be an inconvenience to anyone

aldehydrate ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:09:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I do this as well. Why is this a bad thing?

Even when I ask for stuff I'm like "if it's not too much trouble" or "only get me X if it's on your way".

It's just being polite, no?

get_in_the_sea ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:12:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You must be a Brit!

Meesey ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:12:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can't speak for /u/NiandraL but I too do exactly this and I am a Brit. I just hate coming across as a dick so I'd rather be too apologetic than not apologetic enough.

Unicron1982 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:53:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here, going so far that I don't take a taxi because I don't want the driver doing the trip just for me.

xanoran84 ยท -33 points ยท Posted at 06:42:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well knock it off. It's inappropriate and it makes the word less meaningful.

I had a client that would constantly do the sorry thing. He'd literally walk in my showroom and say "sorry, don't mean to bug you..." He'd say sorry if I had to run and get him a sample or explain installation instructions or even run a payment for him. It so so irritating because it's my job and he was me feel bad for doing it. Like somehow because I wasn't making things look fluid and effortless enough, so it made him feel the need to apologize for making me do something I was perfectly content to do. He should have just replaced it all with "thank you." As it was he just came off as pathetic and anxious for no good reason. I was glad to finally be done with him and his project. He stressed me out more than any grouch I've ever dealt with.

[deleted] ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 07:39:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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xanoran84 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:54:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Perhaps from that comment I do, I suppose. Though I'm reality I promise I'm not. I'm actually polite, courteous and friendly as can be with all of my clients-- including this guy. But I don't care for pitying people unnecessarily and I feel like a lot of people don't like to be pitied. He was just as entitled to my services as any other client that walked through my door and yet here he was saying sorry for every little thing I needed to do for him, like he for some reason thought he was lesser than everyone else.

It's exhausting to have to deal with a personality like that because at every turn you almost have to reassure them is totally fine for them to exist and need things without having to be apologetic.

In the end he was a perfectly nice guy, but that habit of apologizing and groveling was unnecessary. I was eager to move on to a client that was appreciative of my efforts rather than one that found my job and himself to be so burdensome. I love my job and I very much enjoy my clients. He never needed to feel bad for giving me something to do other than spin around in my chair and it got old telling him "no no, don't worry, it's fine" over and over and over.

Insecurity is not a virtue. I don't know what that man would do if he finally had something to legitimately be sorry for. He's rung that word dry.

Dan_Ugore ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:26:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I understand that

cinnamonlynn ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 01:31:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have not unlearned this yet.

wittyusername902 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:15:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Me neither. Just the other day, I was standing around in my uni's entrance hall, probably looking somewhat lost (I was early for a meeting and nervous), so I had this exchange with a nice lady:

"Hi, are you new here, do you need any help finding anything?"
- "Oh, no, I'm sorry!" *walks away awkwardly*

I'm pretty sure she thought I was afraid of her.

blbil ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:41:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same, but it's just a Canadian thing.

throwaway-person ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:28:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here

sw00dd00dswitht00ds ยท 943 points ยท Posted at 00:11:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This. This so fucking hard. if you catch My drift ;P My ex girlfriend literally broke up with me because of my insecure nature. No matter what happened, good or bad, for some reason I always followed it with an, "I'm sorry." The worst part is that I'm not even Canadian!

MyNameIsSkittles ยท 412 points ยท Posted at 01:03:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Its more of a reaction as a Canadian tbh. No one really means it when they say it.

Qaeta ยท 283 points ยท Posted at 01:11:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, when we Canadians say "sorry" we actually mean "go fuck yourself!"

[deleted] ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 04:34:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 06:46:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Qaeta ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:33:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ah yes, the retroactive upgrading of sorrys is an important part of usage of the Canadian sorry.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i feel i was born in the wrong country. in england everyones saying "ahh why you always saying sorry?!" even if im angry...

im english aswell

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:29:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:43:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Iv actually thought of moving to canada before :)

[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 02:11:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow, so polite, even when rude.

Qaeta ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 02:14:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Point of pride in fact. For example, when you get one of those cashiers who are all like "Do you have an extra 5 cents?" when your total is like $10.05 and you hand them a twenty, and you say "Sorry, I only have the twenty."

ThatEdward ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:45:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

.. I literally did this less than an hour ago.

TorontoRapture ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 02:53:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I was in a crowded place last night and someone bumped into me by accident and my Canadian reflexes kicks in. "Oh sorry!"

Qaeta ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 03:05:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly. We Canadians are an extremely hostile people, we just generally only let it fully out during hockey :P

astaldotholwen ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:02:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or when trying to get Hip tickets! Though, it was nice of the CBC to broadcast it so we could all enjoy it! :)

onyxandcake ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:40:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jokes aside, we really just mean that we're sorry that a certain thing happened. We're not actually taking blame for it.

ie: If someone bumps into me, I say sorry because it's unfortunate we collided, not because I assume I caused the accident.

Qaeta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:25:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

and that they should go fuck themselves for bumping into you :P

Blujay12 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:38:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

the sarcastic sorry is my favourite thing as a canadian.

Non-canadians never understand it, it's wonderful.

whatsausername90 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:22:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Didn't know we needed a bilingual dictionary for two countries that both speak English.

Qaeta ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:28:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pfft, with Newfoundland in the mix, we need multiples for PROVINCES that speak English lol. Miramichi is pretty freaky deaky too.

Original-Newbie ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:38:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ya like sorry you're such a dumbass. Or sorry you don't get what I'm clearly explaining. Or sorry you're wrong. Or sorry you can't hold the door by yourself

Qaeta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:43:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Last one needs a little work, sorry. Good practice session otherwise!

FingerpistolPete ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:28:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

TIL

Project2r ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:51:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Huh. TIL.

yourmomlurks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:45:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I witnessed a very hostile fight in a department store in Surrey and can confirm, this is true.

ExRegeOberonis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:22:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When everyone's sorry, no one will be.

theBobbleHead2000 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:40:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sorry, but you will all be sorry.

fiberpunk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:33:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So the Canadian "Sorry" is like the southern "Bless your heart"?

Qaeta ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:26:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Essentially interchangeable, yes.

barto5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I knew it! Nobody's that fucking polite!

Qaeta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:32:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, it's a pretty polite way to tell you to go fuck yourself. So polite most people don't even realize that is what you are doing.

barto5 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:59:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sorry!

Recoveringfrenchman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:20:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sorry!

Wraith95 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:41:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just like Gordon Ramsey!

Durbee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:44:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bless your heart.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Way to let out the secret asshole... sorry

Qaeta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:29:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hehe, excellent usage of the Canadian sorry!

Ucantalas ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:43:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No one really means it when they say it.

This is very true. So true, in fact, that Ontario's 2009 "Apology Act" was passed - a law created that says apologizing and saying "Sorry" is not legally an admission of fault.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:31:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This one time I got into a heated exchange on a Canadian basketball court with this Canadian dude that was elbowing me while posting me up. So I pushed him, he got in my face about it and it looked like we were gonna move past it and keep playing but then I said "I'm not even sorry".

We had to be separated. Punches were almost thrown.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:21:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm Canadian and know someone with a tic causing them to apologize constantly. Does that make them the most Canadian person on earth?

sub_xerox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:24:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow, so true lol

AcadianMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:50:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Meh it's more to be courteous, sometimes I mean it sometimes it's just like the proper thing to do.

Zerotan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:14:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

By law, apologizing is not an admission of guilt.

[deleted] ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 03:36:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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ginagirl816 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:37:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is real life

nancam9 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:21:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The Corner Gas TV show had an episode, explaining the diffs between Canada and the US, where it was explained "you don't actually have to be sorry, you just have to say sorry".

We are incredibly passive aggressive!

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This one time in a Canadian grocery store this guy kept getting in my way with his cart and was cutting me off the entire time I was shopping. So when I saw him try to cut me off I rammed my cart into his on purpose.

He stared me down and I said sorry.

But I didn't mean it.

nancam9 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:40:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's what I am talking about!

TeamAquaGrunt ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:23:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that was something my ex brought up too, she said i was always blaming myself for stuff, but it was really just a force of habit than anything...

3jt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:48:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do you have a flappy head though?

REDDITATO_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:19:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Did you apologize to your ex for being so insecure?

Auto_Text ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:11:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Saying sorry isn't a sign of insecurity, it's a sign of being conscientious.

Someone might be saying it because they're insecure but so what. Only assholes think less of someone for saying sorry.

Stop_Sign ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:47:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For your next girlfriend, the answer is to say thank you instead of sorry.

energirl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:18:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I first moved to Korea, most od the English-speaking Korean men that I met were like this. I asked my boss why Korean men always apologize for no reason, and he said "Sorry, but I don't know." He didn't realize what he had done until after I burst out laughing.

chokingonlego ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:31:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Me neither. I don't really have anxiety, but I'm the lowest key backed up person since I was bullied, and until I get near my friends and know I'm comfortable with our boundaries and relationships, and won't have to apologize and can be open.

JaxiDriver ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:32:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is the worst part, I'm sorry you're not Canadian

supercheetah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sorry you're not Canadian.

Chaosfreak610 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:43:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Really? She broke up with you over that?

DeathCactus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:59:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same problem I have, Sorry.

Batman_Von_Suparman2 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:20:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Damn what a bitch. I also have this problem too man.

SD__ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:31:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Let them out man. Either they spread their legs or they are faithful. No more insecurities!

TehJoshW ยท 520 points ยท Posted at 01:11:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't get this. I say sorry for all the sort of stuff you do, what's wrong with it?? Im just trying to be polite :(

I_came_crochet ยท 767 points ยท Posted at 01:47:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I routinely struggle with the same thing. I didn't notice it until a friend pointed out that I apologize in three situations:

  • When I actually fucked up and needed to apologize;
  • When I saw someone in a tough situation and wanted to show them that I empathized; and
  • When there was a minor inconvenience and I wanted to diffuse that inconvenience by taking responsibility through apologizing, regardless of my actual culpability.

The first two of these are completely okay in my book, although some people still get miffed at me for the second one.

I started apologizing in the third situation because I came from a home life where any little inconvenience could result in huge arguments. That taught me to take responsibility to diffuse the situation before it escalated. For the rest of the world, trying to do that diffusing when it's actually unnecessary and I had no culpability came across as pandering, timid, and/or guilty. I still slip up very frequently, but knowing I don't have to/shouldn't take responsibility in that third situation has helped my confidence and ability to assert myself tremendously.

JamesR624 ยท 359 points ยท Posted at 03:11:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

โ€ข When I saw someone in a tough situation and wanted to show them that I empathized; and

Thank god. I'm not insane after all! I swear that this used to be a regular thing all people used to do in the past. I never stopped doing it. These days everyone acts as if it was never a thing and every time, ask me why I was saying sorry. It got to the point where I was starting to question my sanity because I knew this was a regular thing people all over used to do.

Why does everyone these days act like it was never a thing people did? Could someone please explain what happened to all culture between 1998-2016 about this?

RockRaider1134062216 ยท 139 points ยท Posted at 03:56:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 05:52:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is why I'll say "I'm sorry to hear that" in this situation, because then it's a lot more obvious that you're trying to emphasize with them, not that you are apologizing.

REDDITATO_ ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:27:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"I'm sorry to hear that" sounds like "sucks for you" to me though. It doesn't sound sympathetic, it sounds like I'm saying I'm glad I'm not them.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:26:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I guess I try and say it in a manner that is sympathetic. You know how you can tell by someone's tone if their trying to be a dick or be sympathetic? I don't know if it works, maybe I come across as a dick then :p

REDDITATO_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:05:58 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Meh, I'm probably just weird.

uber1337h4xx0r ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:09:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"you're apologizing because I'm telling you my feelings? Fuck you!"

Luneowl ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 03:55:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We need a new word that means that we sympathize that doesn't also mean apologize. In the meantime if someone asks why I'm apologizing I saw, "I'm sympathizing, not apologizing!" but by then they're annoyed and it all becomes awkward. :(

broccolibush42 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:31:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm pretty sure that's where you say "my condolences".

jeffo12345 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:10:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"My condolences" doesn't seem too personal whenever I've tried to say it. I don't know, I guess to me it sounds a little insincere for whatever reason.

x-rainy ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:05:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why not just extend it into "I'm sorry that happened to you." "I'm sorry, that sucks."

'S what I do.

piratepowell ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:34:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I feel for you, I feel bad for you, you have my (insert adjective here: deepest, greatest, sincerest, upmost) sympathy, condolences, etc.

I've just made it a point to not use the word sorry. I use apologize, excuse me, forgive me, and the above examples instead.

Hello_Cup ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:40:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We need a new word that means that we sympathize that doesn't also mean apologize.

Condolence

jojoyasmin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:00:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Too distant sounding imo

naedangermouse ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:17:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My SO grew up in East Africa, and Swahili has the word Pole (pronounced poh-lay) which means exactly this!

Luneowl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:07:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That would be perfect! People have replied to me that "my condolences" works but it's a formal phrase that distances you and really doesn't work in conversation. It doesn't have the emotional sincerity of "I'm so sorry".

uber1337h4xx0r ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:09:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"how utterly unfortunate"

REDDITATO_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:29:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

*adjusts monocle*

Luneowl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:08:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It reminds me of Lemony Snicket! :)

casualladyllama ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 04:23:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've ended up saying "I'm sorry to hear that!" which seems to go over better. But I agree with you- that second meaning seems to have disappeared in the past 10 years! Craziness.

eroggen ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 03:54:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Pffft, it's not your fault." I know. 'I'm sorry' has two meanings. Jesus Christ.

prefix_postfix ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:19:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'll say "Ohh, it isn't your fault, but I appreciate it" because I do not know what else to say in response. I guess I should just drop the first part. "I appreciate it" works fine.

Notorious4CHAN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:43:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"You stupid fuck, I was just trying to let you know I care about you. Moron."

cabothief ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 04:27:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's totally a thing! I usually either say "I'm so sorry" or "my condolences" or "you have my deepest sympathy."

And I don't mean when someone actually died. Like, when someone gets the wrong answer in a math problem, and they find the error and it was in the first step so they have to start all over: "My condolences."

[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 04:42:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

September 11, 2001 was a temporal nexus where we split from our original timeline. Many of us are new to this current timeline so we experience cultural dysphoria like what you've noticed about saying sorry. I remember doing that too.

SimonPlusOliver ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:35:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

RIGHT??? What the hell happened?

ThatSquareChick ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:08:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sorry is kind of a conjunction. It means "I have sorrow". This can mean many things, "I have sorrow that your tooth hurts", "I have sorrow that we cannot come to a deal" or "I have sorrow that I have caused you pain.". Thinking about it like this has really helped me in starting to understand when to use "I'm sorry". Am I sorrowful over something whether I caused it or not? Then I'm sorry."

whatsausername90 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:27:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We probably got moved to a parallel universe where nobody else seems to know the second meaning of "I'm sorry".

CoutureLaLa ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:52:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, I hear you. There are so many times when, honestly, all that really comes to mind is "I'm sorry." And then you hear, "It's not your fault."

Sigh... I know. I'm just saying "I'm sorry that happened to you/I'm sorry you feel bad/I'm sorry you were inconvenienced/etc."

You're not crazy, this WAS a thing.

_Keldt_ ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:12:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

"I'm sorry to hear that" (or a similar phrase) is a phrase that works well in many situations where you need to show empathy, without the possibility of sounding guilty.

Edit: since several people already said this, here's a list of "similar phrases" instead:

  • "I'm sorry that happened"

  • "Sorry to hear [thing x]"

  • "Sorry to hear about that"

  • "That sucks"

  • "Ouch"

  • "Ooh, that's no bueno" (Don't use this one)

CuddlyIronBoot ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 03:54:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My girlfriend does that to me all the time, I kinda hate it sometimes.

Her: "Work was terrible today."

Me: "I'm sorry."

Her: "For what?"

MenachemSchmuel ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 04:26:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"For being sympathetic."

mesosorry ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:26:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I'm a little confused that people get annoyed by this. I feel like knowing what their intention is behind the words (wanting to make me feel better), I could never get annoyed by it. It's the meaning and intention that matters to me, not the exact words said.

IUhoosier_KCCO ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:37:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For me, it dilutes the meaning of I'm sorry. If you say it in more minor situations, then how do I know when you truly mean it?

mesosorry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:47:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I mean... I think you can truly be sorry for something no matter the situation. It's up to you whether you want to trust and believe it

IUhoosier_KCCO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:52:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh I believe it every time. If you say sorry for slightly inconveniencing me and then say I'm sorry for crashing my car, I'd like the latter to be more sincere and thoughtful. But it's very difficult to tell when the same phrase is used. That has been my experience with someone saying sorry too much.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:48:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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eSPiaLx ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:02:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

you realize the 'im sorry' can be followed with 'what happened?'

similar to how 'please' can be added as a courtesy word to a statement such as 'pass that here'

Saying I'm sorry to everything, and ONLY that is indeed frustrating for the recieving end as it does demonstrate a lack of actually caring about the situation. However, the same can be said of not replying, or simply not paying attention, or whatever disinterested response people come up with.

As someone who DOEs say 'I'm sorry' out of courtesy, I can assure you that its use doesn't have to be in a disinterested manner.

Deadmirth ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:04:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You are definitely overanalyzing, because "I'm sorry, what happened?" is a totally reasonable and common response that doesn't blow off the elaboration.

If someone is defaulting to "I'm sorry" as a response to anything negative without truly paying attention, that is a separate issue that has nothing to do with the phrase itself.

NoahDavenport ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:45:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wasn't even aware that people didn't say this anymore, let alone act like it never happened.

TIE_FIGHTER_HANDS ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:15:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I say it sometimes two and my ex girlfriend would get mad at me and say "stop apologizing!". I was like"I'm not apologizing, it's a common way of expressing empathy, you fucking troglodyte." Minus the part about troglodytes.

Gneissisnice ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:12:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a student who would point out that I said " I'm sorry" a lot.

She'd be like "my head hurts" and I'd say "I'm sorry" and she'd laugh and say "you said it again? Why di you always say you're sorry ?" So of course I would reply "oh, did it say it again? Sorry."

Dumplingman125 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:17:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think it's still a regular thing. It could be age related or regional, no clue though. Everybody I know that's in college or high school still uses it regularly when bring sympathetic.

TheButtiestMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Recreational outrage

x-rainy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sorry, I can't. :(

yungmung ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:33:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

People have gotten mad at you for expressing sorry to hear a terrible thing? I've noticed this trend too but it sucks that having someone else talk about it kind of confirms it.

assdemonSpungluffen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:09:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think it's because we shortened it. For instance consoling a friend over a disappointment or loss/ what you mean is "I share your sorrow and grief, and if there was a way to lift this emotional burden from you and carry it myself I would ." But what comes out in common parlance is: "I'm sorry"

spicyguacamollie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:28:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like the mandala effect

Loken89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:42:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not fucking crazy, this used to be a thing!!! Jesus Christ, how did people fucking forget? It's like ~2000ish even people I knew had used a sympathetic sorry didn't understand it!!! Fuck, I've felt like it was the Berenstein Bears all over again. Also, fuck you, that's how you spelled it, I'm not changing it to fit the bullshit they print today.

Durbee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:47:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

/r/raisedbynarcissists

When they revise history, try to make you question your reality, that's called gaslighting. You will learn so much by reading that sub.

AC1711 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:25:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Guarantee it was all the films that had the response to it of "why? It wasn't your fault"

VariableVynce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:00:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've always had trouble with it. Like yeah I get it your empathizing but why are you sorry? Oh your sorry I'm sick? You didn't do it. Oh your sorry my internet isn't working? You aren't the providing company. It's just confused me. My wife does it all the time.

MyloByron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:52:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeeesssss!

"My dog just died, and my boss is being an ass and my car just broke down"

"I'm so sorry to hear you're having a rough go of it. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help."

This is normal ... Right?

terriblymad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:32:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same! It's not "sorry I caused this" it's "I am sorry to hear that this thing has happened to you and wish you didn't have to go through this bad thing."

BitchySIL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:39:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When my boyfriend does it, it comes off like he's done something wrong. Ex. "My dog died today. " "I'm sorry." "You didn't kill him." Then he started saying "I'm sorry to hear that." I don't know why, but it feels much easier for me to hear that way. I think it's because when someone apologizes for everything, no matter if they've done something, it starts to feel as if they want you to say "Not your fault" (because it isn't) rather than thanking them. Because why would you thank someone wo says "I'm sorry" when you're the one who just stubbed your toe? I understand now that my boyfriend is just that way. It took awhile to get used to.

behemothpanzer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:42:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Berenstain Bears happened, that's what happened.

Brendon3485 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:33:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My normal response when someone says that to me, you have no reason to be sorry, this isn't your fault. It just seems like you're sorry lost value through over use, just like if you say I love you so many times it loses its meaning over time. So once you actually fuck up, and you say sorry, people may not feel it's sincere

Xalteox ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I casually dislike this really, in my mind, saying sorry is taking responsibility for one's actions and realising they were bad, and when people say sorry like this, I always think to myself "What the hell are they apologizing for." I also notice this is a common occurrence on subs like TwoX.

blissfully_happy ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 05:08:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In that third situation, start saying thank you.

Instead of "I'm sorry I was 30 seconds late," try, "Thanks for waiting for me."

"Sorry my house is such a wreck," is now, "Thank you for stopping by."

"Sorry I'm talking about my day so much," is "thank you for listening."

And so on.

Admiral_Awesome1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:49:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is actually really good advice. Sorry makes everyone think that you are always the cause of the problem. Thank you shows that you appreciate the person for what they do for you.

gilded_cages ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:21:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

'blissfully_happy' reminds me to reframe my perceptions toward positivity as I browse the internet on my smartphone.

thanks for this ! :)

Chlorure ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:09:35 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Knowing myself that would end up being "thank you for enduring me"

Dear_Occupant ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:45:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Man, you've got a good friend there if they can make that sort of observation about you. That one's a keeper.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:55:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty sure we are he same person.

msnrcn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:47:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you...me?

gilded_cages ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:29:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think it's a side effect of being raised a certain way. Patents with secret pains.

gilded_cages ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:17:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

hey man, that's a great breakdown of the situation - definitely reminds me of me a few years ago.

And it course, since I'm still me, I slip into these behaviors at times. The third one is the worst though, it's hardwired into your upbringing - it's almost Pavlovian.

themadnun ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:23:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I started apologising in the third situation because I came from a home life where any little inconvenience could result in huge arguments

Can relate. Nothing like being grounded in your room with everything taken off you (books, toys, homework) for a week for opening your mouth at the wrong time.

conspirator_schlotti ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:53:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't mean to be pedantic, and I apologize for digressing, but I think the word you're looking for is not diffuse, but defuse. To defuse means to take the fuse out of something, to calm or mollify, if you will. Diffusing, on the other hand, comes from diffusion and means spreading something out. I'm no chemist, but I guess you could compare it to how sugar diffuses in tea when you stir it.

gilded_cages ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:22:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It was probably just spell chick.

KrivenRaven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:16:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I started apologizing in the third situation because I came from a home life where any little inconvenience could result in huge arguments. That taught me to take responsibility to diffuse the situation before it escalated. For the rest of the world, trying to do that diffusing when it's actually unnecessary and I had no culpability came across as pandering, timid, and/or guilty.

This just sounds like jumping from one kind of abuse to another.

gilded_cages ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:25:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that's exactly what it is. you've been hijacked by your family members, or even by your self (most of the times it's unintentional) to not face some sort of tribulation, or fear, or suffering, etc.

So it's almost a self-induced Pavlovian response - someone tells you "to relax" and it almost makes you angrier. a loved one lies to you? you bite your tongue in the same place for the 10000th time and you actually lose a chunk.

One of my family members will literally give you her back if you disagree with her childish rhetoric. She's in her 60s.

sophie-marie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't realise how "Canadian" I was with my "sorry's" until I lived overseas (Australia).

I learned real quick that if you don't want to look like a complete nutter, you don't apologise for breathing the same air! haha

utb040713 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:36:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I do this as well, and I don't know why. Maybe related to low self-confidence?

gilded_cages ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:42:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You were raised that way. Imagine illogical behaviors and thought patterns being taught and reinforced you by your parents when you're at your most impressionable.

My parents world always tell me to relax when I was a kid. I was (and thankfully still am) really active and very creative, so I naturally have a lot of energy. They would never even try to play, but they'd spend hours cooking, socializing, etc.

Looking back, it feels like it was their way of deflecting their obesity, laziness, and inability to keep up with me. I'd be in tears because it got to the point where they'd tell me to relax right at the start of a conversation, as some sort of tease or joke. I'd tell them all the time that I wasn't upset, why are you saying that, please don't gaslight me, etc. They'd just laugh it off and tell me to relax. Again..

Nowadays people tell me to relax and I'm instantly livid, because of all the shame, regret, anger, and disappointment it stirs up in me. It's not their fault tho, so I have to work through that.

Gotta love your family :/

foxfire66 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:00:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

After reading this and other things in this thread I typed a response to this talking about how I seem to show signs of being raised in a potentially abusive environment despite that not being the case. Only after I finished typing that and was about to hit save that I remembered how controlling and easily angered my older brother whom I haven't lived with for years is. He was especially threatening and controlling towards me when I was like <12. He wasn't physically abusive aside from a few small incidents, but it makes sense that being yelled at for things that I had nothing to do with would result in apologizing for things I had nothing to do with. I think I now know where all this anxiety came from, sort of scary that I forgot about all of that until just now.

gilded_cages ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:46:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like mental abuse stemming from a loved ones insecurities, anger, suffering, etc.

If it was your big bro, then he was projecting his shit onto you so he didn't have to deal. He didn't do this on purpose (I hope), so try to not hold it against him.

I've a twin brother who was able to do something similar when we were younger. He was very angry about a personal shortcoming, and I was trying to comfort him.

He blamed me for all of it, and to 'not bother me any more with your stupid crap'.

ruined. before either of us even knew what it was.

Hamburgex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:57:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think this sums up pretty well my usage of apology as well. I tend to try and make it clear that I empathize or take responsibility as quick as possible because I really don't like to get into arguments.

Silly__Rabbit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:20:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have in the past apologized for apologizing, same sort of situation... my father had depression mixed with a personality disorder and would only be set off by whatever the flavour of the day was, but you learned to say sorry pretty quick, even when you did nothing wrong.

MrDrumzOrz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:25:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow, you just described exactly me. I had no idea saying sorry a lot was coming off in that third way, as I'm used to my brother kicking off at the slightest things... thanks for this, time to make a conscious change.

newsocksontoday ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:59:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This was very well said. Thank u for the insight.

thebondoftrust ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:11:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One that I've found is saying "I'm sorry" when what I really mean is "thank you."

Auto_Text ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's nothing wrong with saying your sorry because other people are upset. It can diffuse anger and there's literally no downside. You can still apologize and not think less of yourself.

dkarma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

3 helps ease tension in a relationship. Use it strategically

SimKat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:51:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is something that drives me crazy about my husband. I will expect and accept an apology when he's screwed up. But when he apologizes for every little thing it makes me feel like I must be a monster and he's living in fear of upsetting me, his over-apologizing to defuse actually creates a situation where I feel defensive and it's more likely we'll have an argument. Which he then apologizes for.

For the second situation, I told him he already oversaturates me with the phrase "I'm sorry" so when he says it to express empathy I don't take him seriously, it's more like saying words to fill a void. I finally explained to him the phrase "lo siento" in Spanish and it's meaning and that has helped immensely! Now he'll say that directly or something similar like "I feel for you" or "I empathize".

I_came_crochet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If he's anything like me, he apologizes in the third situation because he cares about you and doesn't like to see you upset. My difficulties with it started at home, but they only reappear for people I care about. I have a similar situation with my boyfriend, but we talked about it and realized that it was because he was the one I cared about being happy the most, not because I was afraid of him or his responses.

Also I appreciate the lo siento aspect of it too. I often wish English had better replacements for "I'm sorry." Using "condolences" or "I feel for you" seem too serious for petty things like someone getting stuck in traffic.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:53:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When you say sorry for something that you weren't responsible for you're kind of forcing the other person say "no don't worry, it's not your fault". It's like the teenage girl who walks up to all her friends and says "God I'm such a burden, no one actually likes me and I'm so ugly" expecting all her friends to console her and call her beautiful.

I went on one date with a guy who apologized for everything. I criticized a part of the movie that we just watched and he apologized. I mentioned that there was traffic and he apologized. The next day he called, said he was sorry for calling, said he liked me, and then apologized for liking me. It wasn't cute, it wasn't polite, it was annoying as fuck and I never spoke to him after that phone call.

roundaboot_ca ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:35:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It seems very insecure and lacking in self-esteem. Take your space in this world and don't apologize for it! Ironically, it ends up making others feels bad and uncomfortable, which is probably the opposite effect you're aiming for.

I read a great tip recently that in moments you're tempted to say sorry, say thank you instead. example: You're running late to a meeting and walk in to greet the person who has been waiting. Instead of saying "So sorry I'm late!", try: "Thank you so much for your patience!" It instantly inserts positivity and appreciation into the situation instead of negativity. An apology usually forces the person to say "It's OK." It indeed wasn't OK and the person deserves a thanks for waiting.

Auto_Text ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Who cares what other people think.

I'm not going to stop apologizing because I'm worried other people will think I'm insecure. Because that's actually insecure.

roundaboot_ca ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:16:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If that's how you feel then you're penchant for over-apologizing is incredibly incongruent.

Auto_Text ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:02:05 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not at all. I apologize because I like to be a considerate person. Not to avoid confrontation when confrontation is needed.

ILoveControlWarrior ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:46:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Think about it like this - If you apologize for EVERYTHING, then you become insincere.

Let me explain with examples.

(You reach for the last item on the shelf, the same as I am going for) - I'm sorry! (You awkwardly get in my way when we're walking towards each other) - I'm sorry! Basically, you apologize for EVERYTHING all the way from stupid, small, irrelevant things so that when you do actually fuck up something big we don't trust you and your sincerity because you're always apologizing for everything.

xerxesbeat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:29:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A bit harsh on my part, but I'd consider this survival instinct for when you run into someone who is offended whom you aren't prepared to kill

NeatAnecdoteBrother ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:28:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It can be incredibly annoying and unwanted

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:34:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Auto_Text ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No difference.

SemSevFor ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:51:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It gets reeeeeally annoying and obnoxious if its a constant thing. If you're saying it more than once every 30 minutes, your friends probably secretly hate you.

getinmyx-wing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:21:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know about the secret hate bit, but I have to agree with the first part, even if it's an unpopular opinion. I used to be friends with a girl who came from a very large family with a very overbearing mother, and she apologized for every little thing all the time. She had a very welcome-mat personality and it frustrated me to no end that she would just instinctively apologise for things that were in no way her fault. Luckily, she's since developed more of a backbone and has become slightly more assertive when people try to steamroll her.

MarvinTheAndroid42 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:52:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As long as it's politeness and not about lettif people use you then that's perfectly alright and I'd even encourage it on the basis that it's just a nice thing to do.

The usual scenario is that you and someone else run into each other in a hall and you both say sorry, not casting blame at either person, and just moving on.

danaskye ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:13:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It is very important to own up to your mistakes and apologize. However, at work, especially for women, it is important to not apologize for every random thing you didn't do because it makes you come off weak. Unless you directly caused the screw up, saying sorry makes others subconsciously think of you as partially responsible.

Note, this doesn't apply to "sorry for your loss" or "sorry you're not feeling well".

haloraptor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be honest I say it as a useless speech token, I don't really mean "I'm sorry" when I say it most of the time, it's just filler words.

Stupidnames04 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm just being polite when I say it.

Iychee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:44:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same, I chalk it up to me being Canadian though..

FiddieKiddler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, there isn't anything wrong with it. It's not a bad habit at all. In the instances they described I would say it was perfectly fine to say sorry for, it's just a way of being able to acknowledge the minor inconvenience caused.

It doesn't have to mean that you are truly sorry from the bottom of your heart, it just shows the you aren't an arsehole and you understand in this situation there has been slight inconvenience caused or a slight misunderstanding. It's not a bad habit at all in those instances.

Saying sorry and being a push over, letting people take advantage of you not being strict enough hold your ground, that would be a different story. Using a throwaway "sorry" to be polite is just courteous.

kaybo999 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:31:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Me too. I think the delivery matters - if you're almost shouting it every time then it's pretty bad, but a casual quiet sorry doesn't seem so bad.

TheFarnell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:46:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

On its own, it cheapens your apologies. If you say "sorry" for everything and anything, then it sends the message that "sorry" is meaningless to you. Your friends may find that insulting, and if/when you do something that actually merits an apology, they'll see your "sorry" as insincere.

Second, because it implies an acceptance of responsibility, it basically means you're constantly rolling over and saying every little inconvenience or discomfort another person faces is your fault and that you were somehow wrong to cause it. That's a very unhealthy thing to teach someone to internalize, especially if they have underlying confidence issues.

flowerpuffgirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:56:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you insecure? My friend would apologise relentlessly. It was very irritating for these reasons:

Why are you sorry? Did you do something wrong? I can't think of anything you did wrong, maybe you're hiding something.

We're having a genuinely interesting debate, you shut that down when you say sorry. Why are you sorry? We were having an interesting chat about differing opinions and having different opinions is ok. Now we're going to sit in silence and you'll be sorry for causing the silence.

We didn't see you at school/work yesterday, what were you up to? Why are you sorry it was a genuine question!

The supermarket didn't have brown sugar, no worries. No really, it's ok. Really it's fine. Please stop apologising it's tiring how sorry you are.

You were actually a shitty human being and hurt my feelings? Your sorry is meaningless because I heard it 49 times yesterday, 37 times the day before and 25 times already today. Just leave me alone for a while. And when I'm over it apologising 12 more times doesn't make it any better!!

After about six months, we would point out every time he said sorry. THEN HE WOULD BE SORRY FOR SAYING SORRY. Slowly he said sorry less. He became more confident, and more happy. He stood taller and believed in the things he was saying.

I hope you aren't that bad, but next time you almost say sorry, think about why you're saying it. Is it's just because you think it's what people want to hear, 99% of the time it's unnecessary.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:30:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What you are doing subconsciously is displaying submission to everyone you talk to. It can make some people like you but it will also reinforce a general pattern of people treating you like a lesser person.

Dr_Nik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:39:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It portrays a lack of self confidence. Also for some people it makes THEM feel bad because they think their statement has caused you problems. I had a girlfriend who broke up with me for apologizing too much and I have had issues at work because the apparent lack of confidence means I don't know what I'm doing.

I've grown to use apologies only when I really mess up or when I have offended. A well timed apology is much stronger than rapid fire throw away sorrys.

Vio_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:49:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It comes off as passive aggressive and also dilutes the nature of "sorry" for the times you really mean it. Not everything has to be an apology, especially when it's nothing you did or your fault.

Vypur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:58:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

projects insecurity.

Auto_Text ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not saying sorry can be just as much a sign of insecurity as saying it too much. Maybe even more so.

IICVX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:13:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's like lying - if you do it all the time, people won't believe you when it matters.

fuckcloud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not polite as those are not situations you need to be apologizing for. Awkward situations happen to everyone. We have the same right to occupy the same space. So moving out of the way to let me pass is the polite action, not apologizing for being in my way, because hey, I'm in your way too.

It's not polite as much as it is minimizing your importance and self worth. Even the rich looking business man doesn't need to be apologized to when you do that awkward shake-n-bake misdirection when you both try to walk the same way. Because hey, he came screaming out of a vagina just like you. What he has taken, he has earned. Or was given to by overly apologetic people

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:07 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Psychologically proven to make you look less genuine, weak and less liked.

Throne-Eins ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:00:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh my God, I do this all the time! My parents are narcissists, so I've been apologizing for my very existence since the day I was born. I was taught that I'm responsible for everyone else's feelings (another thing I'm unlearning). I apologize for things I never even did. I even fucking apologize to inanimate objects! It's so hard to tell myself that no, I don't have to apologize because I didn't do anything wrong.

marriedabrit73 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 23:33:05 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have been out for 16 years, and am now the most unCanadian Canadian you will ever meet.

I no longer say sorry when someone runs into me or cuts me off. It is very liberating.

Zombi_Sagan ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:19:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How many times do you cuss now during those altercations?

marriedabrit73 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:22:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It varies, mostly it is name calling. %&*( bugger cut me off. and so on.

Zombi_Sagan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:51:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Almost a true, I'm guessing here, American. Brit works too, they have a mouth as well.

SlappaDaBassMahn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:52:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You have obviously never met an Australian.

To put it aimply, we call our mates cunts

StacheKetchum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:23:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Hey, Vinnie. Sorry."

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:26:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Awkward_moments ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:39:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If in Britain it sounds normal. Other than the different opinions. Didn't take 1/4 of the world not standing up for ourselves.

I have been standing still, had people walk into me and I apologised first. Then if they don't also apologise I huf and shake my head.

Apologising is proper.

Bobius ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:37:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We knew a guy at uni had properly integrated into Britain when he walked into a door and apologised to it.

Abcdqfr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:18:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I unlearned this one too hard. I hardly ever apologize anymore. I'm often walking away from situations kicking myself and feeling like a dick for not apologizing when it would have been appropriate or even inappropriate not to.

Taskmaster23 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:18:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I do this too. It can also be related to anxiety disorders. I've yet to unlearn it.

iamnotnotarobot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:29:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ugh this. I've been this way for as long as I can remember. Some people understand why I do it but others hate me for it.

lucy_inthessky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:12:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One way I broke this habit was living in Germany. They have no reason to even say "excuse me" if they bump you or get in front of you. It's a very self-centric attitude. They are gruff, and look at you strangely if you say "excuse me" to get in front of them to get something off the shelf at the grocery.

gkrazy ยท 582 points ยท Posted at 06:19:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My very old school religious mom has taught me many things that I had to unlearn including:

  • Sitting on cold concrete would freeze my ovaries making me infertile

  • Looking or sticking anything, including fingers or tampons, "down below" was "bad" and would break my hymen and I would never get a husband

  • Never sleep over at a friend's house because their dad or brother will rape me

  • Only women have to cook and clean because it is their job, so my brother who is the same age was allowed to sit on the couch watching tv while I did the dishes

dalcowboiz ยท 90 points ยท Posted at 06:30:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like your mom grew up in quite the different culture. Glad you weren't sucked into it for your whole life. I'm too unlearning things due to religious parenting. As much as it sucks that I have things to unlearn, it is kind of fun to be on the right track. It was a track I thought was wrong for the first 22 years of my life but for a few years now I've been on a great learning path. Good luck to you!

gkrazy ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 06:59:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you, good luck to you too! In retrospect, it is quite fun to laugh about it now with my friends

JD-King ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:32 on September 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Never sleep over at a friend's house because their dad or brother will rape me

This one made me worried and sad.

[deleted] ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 13:39:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy smokes! Are you Mexican?? My mother would say all those things to me, too!

emwo ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 16:41:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mine too! I was wondering I was posting in my sleep. O-o Never stay the night anywhere because men can't help themselves, anything with feminine hygeine is bad and birth control is only for sexually active people. Wearing pants will make your legs skinny and make you infertile if you wear them tight enough, peanut butter helps with hair volume, etc. Let's hang out and freeze our ovaries.

pug_fugly_moe ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:41:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mexican son here. Mom would say the same types of stupid shit to my sister, who works in the medical field.

gkrazy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:42:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm actually not, but it totally makes sense that other cultures would have similar weird ways of thinking xD my parents are Eastern European

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:18:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm Russian, my family also told me that sitting on cold stone would make me infertile.

Ithelda ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 14:59:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wasn't allowed to have sleepovers either in case I was raped. And if the dad/ brothers saw me in my (modest and baggy, mind you) pajamas they would have lustful thoughts about me and it would be my fault.

hitops1 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 14:44:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I just hung out with a guy who is a social worker in child services, 30+ years experience and educated. Told me "you wouldn't believe the number of stories we get about abuse stemming from sleepovers"

Pizza_Delivery_Dog ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:09:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As in children are abused at sleepovers or abuse is discovered at sleepovers?

hitops1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:29:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Abused at sleepovers, I believe.

Obviously in his line of work, there is selection bias there. He will be more likely to be suspicious, understandable.

Most likely, the vast majority of sleepovers have no issues. But of abuses that take place at the hands of strangers, a disproportionate share occur at sleepovers.

Incidentally, I am blown away by the number of abuse stories reported here. I have never come close to experiencing abuse, nor have I ever heard a close contact of mine mention anything either.

sleepytomatoes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:25:06 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

8 out of 10 friends of mine has been abused in some way. I wish it were less common.

hitops1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:33 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What's is the average socioeconomic and demographic background of you and your friends? Is there a trend?

sleepytomatoes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:31:26 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some rich, some poor. The only thing in common is usually bad parenting, though not always.

hitops1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:08:24 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Parents were the most common perpetrator then? Or just irresponsible about who kid was around?

sleepytomatoes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:26:39 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

It varies and now at age 29, the abuses include partners and more strangers.

I've known more than 10 who were molested or raped; several by family but also strangers and acquaintances. (3 fathers, 1 brother, 2 partners, 2 strangers, 1 uncle, 2 acquaintance) I can't recall the rest at the moment.

More than 20 physically abused, some overlap in the two groups but not very much. (Almost always the parent.)

I couldn't begin to count the mental abuse I've seen.

I mentioned this to a friend I know who does counseling and she said it seems like a skewed number of people to know, but they draw together like magnets and I can name most of them off the top of my head. It's stranger for me to befriend a non-abused person than it is for me to know abused people.

Lady_Eemia ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:17:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Probably both?

Honestly, letting your children sleep over at some stranger's home isn't exactly a great parenting move. I only attended one or two "real" sleepovers as teenager, mostly because my mom probably wanted to make sure I was old enough to say something if anything sketchy happened.

I just don't think making your child terrified of being raped if she ever sleeps in another person's home is the right way to go about it.

datmamathere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:38:32 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is why I won't let my daughter go to sleepovers. I went to lots of them and nothing happened, but I always thought about it. One of my friends dads still talks about when we were little girls, we wanted him to judge our pajama contests, and he was just horrified! I sort of remember that... But since I've had a daughter I REALLY think of stuff like that, and I just can't let her go. I can't take that chance, and I feel like you don't ever really know people. Kids are only young for just a little while-and it's our job to be overly protective. There are some bad people out there. Better safe than sorry any day of the week.

hitops1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:07:33 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's kind of my take generally as well. Although my daughter is only a few months old and I don't have to think about it for awhile. If it was with friends we know fine. Some random classmate? Would have to get to know family first.

tussiveandfebrid ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 14:19:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandmother is very old country and she is forever chasing after me with a cushion because I like to sit on floors. She really wants great grandchildren, I guess.

Glorthiar ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 14:43:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's like these women forgot that the butt exist, like that huge flab of fat is there to help cushion your behind

zeropi ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:45:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or they want to help keep the good form of it. They know it's a "key feature" to help making children

DracoCharky ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 15:22:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I WISH it was that easy to "freeze your ovaries" and make you infertile. I'm going to have to wait till I'm about 30 and probably lie to the doctor that i have a husband with kids or something.

AranaiRa ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:25:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why would you have to lie?

orestesFeasting ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 16:58:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Doctors are veeeery reluctant to remove baby makin parts if you haven't used them yet. What if you get married later on and can't provide your dear husband with an heir?!

AranaiRa ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:48:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Things I never would have known as a gay man. Thanks for the explanation.

orestesFeasting ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:10:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No problem! It's something I've looked into, because period are hell and the last time I thought about having a kid I was 13 and desperately clinging to heterosexuality.

DracoCharky ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:35:33 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't even want it removed, particularly. I just never want to be pregnant and I hate babies, so I'd rather not run the risk.

Calonhaf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:45 on October 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Was talking about this with my partner the other day - what BC we'll use when we're done having kids (condoms in the mean time) - Isn't the copper IUD more effective than sterilisation?

Sunfried ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:11 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Probably less common in men's case, but I've heard of vasectomy surgeons who demand the wife's consent. Tubal-ligation is of course a much more invasive procedure, even though it's laparoscopic, and I think less reversible too, so risks of making the wrong decision to cut is more permanent.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:56:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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orestesFeasting ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:05:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Preventing pregnancy isn't the only reason to clear out your pelvis. And has a doctor ever actually been sued for someone changing their mind like that?

Lady_Eemia ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:20:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I honestly doubt being sued is actually a legit concern for doctors performing these surgeries. It seems like it would be as simple as making the woman sign a form that says she's willingly making the decision and if she changes her mind in the future she's not allowed to sue.

[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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I_Like_Toast_A_Bunch ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

So I'm assuming that you aren't from the US then (or you could have just got an abortion yourself when you found out you were pregnant)... Also there are serious health implications to taking out someones ovaries due to hormonal changes

DracoCharky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:42:44 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It isn't that it's /difficult/, just a bit irritating when I know that I never want to be pregnant. It's not like I would want /everything obliterated/. I quite my ovaries, I just don't want them to get to do their job.

Also, I bet you're in the US if you assume that all doctors consider is being sued.

gkrazy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:01:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

According to my mom you can also become infertile by sitting at the corner of a table soooo that's another option!

MlleRed ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:39:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Omg.... My mom says exactly the same things. Hopefully, I never learned all those crap.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:13:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Our Mums must be related.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:39:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christ, how did you survive each month?

zer0cul ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:05:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Have you had a baby and gotten married to prove the first two wrong? And had a rape free sleepover? We need some verification that your mom wasn't right all along.

ricottapie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:13:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sorry your mom was Margaret White.

(That third one is really fucked up, though. Jesus. Who talks to their children that way?)

Flaydogg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow its like we grew up in the same house

gkrazy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's sad that so many of us were raised with the same crazy ideas, but it's also nice to know I'm not alone in my experiences!

Iambecomethrowaway2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sitting on cold concrete would freeze my ovaries making me infertile

Lol holy shit.

Only women have to cook and clean because it is their job, so my brother who is the same age was allowed to sit on the couch watching tv while I did the dishes

There was a bit of this in my family. outside work was "men work" and house work was "woman work" though it was never explicitly said. I'm not going to lie, I was a bit jealous walking in the house dripping in sweat to see my sister loading a day and a half worth of dishes.

Jonny_Logan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:00:42 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sitting on cold concrete can however give you piles, which my friend found out upon moving into his first place, only taking his TV & console for the first night and gaming all through the night whilst sat on said cold concrete floor.

As an aside how fucked up are we as a species that sitting on a rock for too long causes us to injure ourselves?

lumpymattress ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:34:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can respect religion, but that's shit's just lying.

KayLannister ยท 819 points ยท Posted at 22:58:31 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They consciously taught me that people (family aside) will never love you forever. Its only temporary.

3jt ยท 436 points ยท Posted at 05:37:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Liars! It applies to family too.

timedragon1 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 12:27:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It especially applies to Family. Blood is thicker than water, but the crap they can put you through is way thicker.

niklapton ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 12:57:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Did you know the updated version of that saying ? It goes something like this "Blood of a covenant is thicker than the water of the womb"

Desopilar ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:57:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't think that's updated, I'm pretty sure that's where it came from originally.

timedragon1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:02:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I like that one better because it's accurate. Sounds a lot more badass too.

bettareckognize ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:30:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's about religion. The blood of the covenant is the blood Christ spilled to save all mankind (in Christian mythology). The water of the womb is what we'd consider to be the "blood" in the modern saying; that is, familial bonds. What the saying really means is fuck your mom if she's not Christian. Not a great saying, in my opinion.

romps ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 15:19:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The saying rings true to me in a more general way: the bonds we consciously pursue have a deeper impact than the ones we are randomly born to.

timedragon1 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:10:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's how I interpreted it.

Lamb-and-Lamia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:46:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well yes in the specific context of the situation in which it is birthed it means that, but so what. If you think Christian is synonymous with "good" then the quote still holds up very well and reflects the general sentiment on here. Good people owe their loyalty to other good people. Bad propel do not get a pass simply because they are family.

rastajake81 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:25:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Heard that!

white_butterfly1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:10:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I second and third that!

Sweetwill62 ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 23:13:28 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can love your family as much as you want, they are still people that you may not at all want or need in your life. No one is incapable of doing you harm and if they are doing more harm than good to you you should take steps to stop that from happening and if that isn't possible cut all contact with them.

[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 08:11:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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neonusound ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:16:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is so relatable. I don't know what's your story, but mine was pretty fucked up too. Life is much better now that I am across an ocean from them lol.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:17:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

true dat

[deleted] ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 03:38:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's exactly what my parents tell me to this day whenever I have to reach out for their help. It's like they instil this great distrust in me towards everyone else. The funny thing is that I have next to no emotional relationship with them. My mom even stopped talking to me for several months after I came out to her that I had a girlfriend.

zarazilla ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 04:57:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's funny, my Mom kind of implied this to me too - friends are temporary and I was stupid to go out of the way for them, you should only make effort for family.

Now though she has a good friend who has done things for my parents like wake up at 6am to drive them to the airport, and pick them up when they come back, and I think she's starting to reevaluate this.

niklapton ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:58:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here. But isnt it sad that theres no one for us ?

13justing ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:45:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

From Four Quartets by T.S. Eliot:

Love is most nearly itself

When here and now cease to matter.

Old men ought to be explorers

Here or there does not matter

We must be still and still moving

Into another intensity

For a further union, a deeper communion

Through the dark cold and the empty desolation,

The wave cry, the wind cry, the vast waters

Of the petrel and the porpoise. In my end is my beginning.

scuzpwns ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 04:58:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't wanna be a debbie downer, but I agree with them. So many people have come and gone over the years, but I can count on one hand how many are still solid. My parents, and one friend. That's it.

BoringSupreez ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 07:06:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Life isn't a Spice Girls song, friendship isn't forever.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:19:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Neither is family.

Nothing is actually, we're all gonna die.

Thank god. Life is pretty depressing, can't for it to end, it'll be a relief. Like falling asleep after a long day without the anxiety that comes with having to eventually wake up.

Micro-wave ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:56:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you okay?

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:30:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

nah

Lamb-and-Lamia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:00:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some are born to the endless night.

Vleda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

/r/nihilism is leaking.

Lamb-and-Lamia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I would have imagined this entire site is one big ode to nihilism.

iheartgiraffe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:00:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Suicide is a lot harder than you'd think. Waking up after a suicide attempt fucking sucks, you're in pain, you've probably puked or shit yourself, and you're furious that you're not dead. There's also a decent chance that you've fucked up your body in some way or the other and might be permanently disabled.

If this is how you're feeling right now, skip the step where you try to kill yourself and just go to a hospital. I'm serious. If you try to kill yourself, you're far more likely to end up alive and in a psych ward, so skip the painful bits and get to the psych ward on your own.

Psych wards actually aren't that bad. You have a routine (you go to bed/wake up at the same time every day, you eat three meals a day at regular intervals,) you see a psychiatrist and they work with you to figure out something that helps you be a bit more functional. It's not a magical solution and you may still be suicidal when you get out, but at least you'll be a bit more stable and thinking a bit more clearly.

Lamb-and-Lamia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm saying this as an insider. But I think the reason this sentiment is popular among young-ish people is because it's wishful thinking.

Family life seems daunting to us, and we would really rather avoid it all together if possible. But there's that nagging fear of future loneliness that makes us feel like maybe a family is the only realistic way for us to find meaning in our lives. I mean how many of us really have jobs that are that fulfilling, how many of us have hobbies that are that fulfilling? Our connections with people are basically the primary source of us feeling content with our lives. And when your young you have friends. You have siblings, and cousins, and buddies from highschool, work friends, etc. And we try to bolster the closeness of those relationships to potentially replace them with the idea of family.

But it's not a good idea imo. I can already see (26) that friendships are really not that sacrosanct. For one, so many friendships are really based on boredom and convenience. Once the convenience aspect changes they'll find a new way to alleviate their boredom.

Second, even if there is a deeper bond in that friendship, life pulls people away. Gfs/Bfs can come in the picture who don't mesh well with you, or people will just have some other reason where they are forced to really evaluate how much your friendship means to them. And I think we would all be surprised by how weak our friendships are when actually tested.

allora_fair ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 07:49:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The thing is, when parents push this mentality of "we're the only people in the world that will ever care for you" they're generally manipulative dicks that are guilting their kids into doing their bidding or something.

Like...these things don't need to be said. Actions speak louder than words, and if someone feels the need to scream this at their children...well.

Rather_Unfortunate ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:16:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Still, though. Yes, friendships can and often are temporary things that last only a few years. But they can equally become permanent and are more likely to if you allow yourself to get very close and trusting.

Saiyan_Deity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But you're forgetting that not everyone has a great family and people's parents are not related so technically it's a contradiction for parents to tell their kids that only family will stay together.

Even if some friends do come and go that's not always a bad thing. Not every friendship ends on bad terms, some people just grow apart.

The idea and implacation that people should only stick with their family is the kind of mentality that keeps people with abusive family members that do nothing but abuse them. I'd rather have 10 decent friends that came and went through the years then the same family member that keeps screwing me over.

HaIloweenTown ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:25:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I mean...

LostInPooSick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:23:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

well, yeah.

reallybigleg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:54:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

My Dad once told me that you should make sure you're used to being alone because you never know who might die in a freak accident and if you relied on them for anything at all you might be stuck.

He told me that when I was about 22, though, and I found it funny. I guess the message must have got through implicitly, though, because I don't rely on people and when I go into a new relationship I think about "when we split up" and plan ahead because I don't anticipate permanence. I worry that if I get upset about a breakup or a relationship in any way then it's going to waste time I could have spent on my own life (because I see relationships as outside of "my life...") so I get a bit anxious about being too close to people.

unseen-streams ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:50:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I get that too. Mostly when I point out that they've hurt me.

zEaK47 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:01:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

WHAT? you mean i have to unlearn that?

FUCK

mellowfish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:01:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This would be true if they meant "be in love". Actual love is a choice, so it will last as long as someone keeps choosing to do it.

oliverbm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:37:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Word

Nicholas-DM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:07:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents taught me the exact same thing. x.x

FuchsiaGauge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:40:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is certainly true in my experience.

daddyslilmonstah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:02:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad doesnt understand why I have friends. Constant comments about me being a "sorority girl" why do I need those people etc. It sucks.

toomanyattempts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well a husband and wife don't start at as family, but end up as it...do they count?

romps ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Nothing's forever, least of all love, and that marks the end of your fears."

thedirtydecepticon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This. My mom constantly makes nasty, underhanded comments about my partner and how he's an asshole who's going to leave me. If he ever does, that's entirely his choice and has nothing to do with her, but she will be the first to say "I told you so".

Rocky_Bukkake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i mean, how does a family form? by two people who are not family, right? and if family loves you forever, but your family is made of people who have not always been family, then love is never forever? i'm not so sure about that.

Lamb-and-Lamia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:42:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's a pretty decent lesson though. People will often times simply change their definition of love to escape this realization in my opinion. What I suggest you do is try to define love now. Try and imagine what love looks life. What it implies about our behavior and actions. Then think about who you love and who you think loves you. Then see in the future how that all holds up.

My experience is that if you think love means treating another person the way you treat yourself, like I believe most of us basically think, then you will find love exists in temporary spurts. Much like any other intense emotion.

Love is not magic. It is just as boring an explainable as any other emotion. And it does not last. Why would it?

StrawberryR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:18 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

:( God, that's sad.

Chlorure ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:13:26 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My boyfriend is currently struggling with that. His parents divorced an they keep repeating that over and over.

JustTheImportantInfo ยท 3448 points ยท Posted at 02:30:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That loud noises and rough housing cause the cake to not rise when baking in the oven. Come to find out 20 years later it was just a lie to get us to be quiet.

Now that I think of it, they got quiet kids AND cake. Scratch that, I'll remember this instead and use it in the future.

squintina ยท 743 points ยท Posted at 04:14:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not that it won't rise but there's a fragile baking stage where the bubbles are there but the batter is still very liquid and if you bump the stove or stamp the floor the cake can 'fall' and have a sunken middle, ruined essentially.

Gezzer52 ยท 167 points ยท Posted at 07:05:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It also depends quite a lot on the type of cake you're baking. Pound or sheet cake is pretty resilient, angel food on the other hand is more prone to dropping.

oil_beef_hooked ยท 107 points ยท Posted at 10:25:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is that why after a major Earthquake you can never find a cake shop open?

NewTranslator ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 12:12:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes

SooperDan ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 12:31:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That made me laugh. Thanks. Needed that.

Brain-trust ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:56:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm going to go try this. I want my SO to ask why I'm screaming at the oven.

AccountWasFound ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:59:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep, I occasionally ruin my own cakes by closing the oven too quickly, or dropping something...

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 11:10:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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iceykitsune ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:59:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

vibrations travel far in older houses.

Krafty_Koala ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:39:38 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandad made my grandmother a cake from scratch for her birthday two weeks ago. She came home and shut the front door during that pivotal stage. He was crushed that the cake fell.

AndGraceToo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:29:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Was gonna say, she wasn't entirely lying there...

NivlacSupreme ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:07:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

or just interesting for decoration

abstract_misuse ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:09:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

More room for icing!

NivlacSupreme ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:14:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I eat frosting with a spoon!

dankenstine321 ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 04:45:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've seen the cake fall before.

Sunfried ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:08:54 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Usually it takes a drop in temperature, such as by someone opening the oven door to check it.

Cakes that rely on beaten egg whites for structure (soufflรฉs and angel food, e.g.) are particularly vulnerable.

devilabit ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 05:48:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do us a fav, edit your comment and put in your mum was right. You'll miseducate a hundred people in an hour!

[deleted] ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 06:47:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Actually, there is some truth to that. I bake my own bread, and I've witnessed how jostling can cause the dough to just deflate instantly. Recently, I had a perfectly risen loaf in the pan ready to bake. I banged it against the side of the oven and poof! The center just caved in.

So, yeah, it happens.

[deleted] ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 03:08:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait, this isn't true?!?! I creep around my house while baking a cake! Thanks mom!

Xilverbullet000 ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 05:04:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't jump or shut any doors hard near the cake. It will actually fall in the middle, and it ends up super dense and gross.

[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 05:45:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wouldn't say gross... just not as aesthetically appealing.

Xilverbullet000 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 06:23:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It gets dense in the middle, and the texture is shit

TheGinger07 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

SHUT UP AND EAT YOUR ASTH... oh

[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:47:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It is true if you're baking a cake or yeast bread from scratch.

[deleted] ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 02:54:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is fuckin genius

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:28:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This one is semi true! Your mom definitely used it to get a quieter house but if you were the kind of kids to rough house in the kitchen or nearby the cake wont rise properly

devlifedotnet ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 05:22:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that's almost as good as "the ice cream van plays music to let everyone know they've run out of ice cream"

crispychoc ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:45:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The cake is a lie?

NotThisFucker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:10:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Looks like they can have their cake and eat it too

Casperoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:48:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh my god, I've never heard this anywhere else in my life. My fucking mother had us going with this for so long.

Pope_Donus_II ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:53:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That loud noises and rough housing cause the cake to not rise when baking in the oven.

I am stealing the shit out of this. On behalf of reddit, thank your parents.

REDDITATO_ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:51:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well you probably should since it's true.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like the brady bunch

losnardos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:20:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit this is genius

FluffyUnicorns27 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:41:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother did something similar.

I was really convinced that you only got tan if you laid perfectly still and quiet. Otherwise you were dodging the sun rays.

This was the mid to late 80's btw. And she also thought baby oil was good for all things sun related.

SD__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:46:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Here is a potato. It is my only one, so you better be travelling backward so I get it back.

pallapooha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:49:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've been baking cakes for almost 30 years and this is most definitely true. Cakes can definitely fall, sistah

spiritbx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:53:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think that might be true for souflรฉs.

Better tell the kids to ALWAYS be quiet just in case though...

17michela ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:01:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is true when making a soufflรฉ though. If you jump up and down near it or something it can pop.

zeugma25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:16:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

you mean roughhousing, not rough housing. caused me a few seconds of confusion

Robotmassacre538 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:00:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I guess they got their cake and ate it to

Sodds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:27:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

According to my mom and grandma draft kills the process of dough rising.

Living on my own now with most of the windows open and draft everywhere I realized it was an old wives' tale. Literally.

nevenoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:29:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am so. So. So. Soooooo using it.

ballet2gi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:44:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haha, my mum had a 2m perimeter around her cakes when she was baking any type of cake in the oven

ichlibejuice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:08:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Okay this is a counterpoint with some truth behind it. My grandpa used to make killer Souffles. My grandpa forbade horseplay while he was making souffle because it would literally break his focus so that the souffle would not come out. From what I've learned from TV cooking shows there is probably some validity to that.

Sexwithcoconuts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:19:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad would tell us this, but we lived in a trailer and the cake would really fall if we moved around too much.

SSparkie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:31:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We lived in a trailer when I was younger and. My mom told me this. I think, since it was a trailer, there might have been truth to no though. Fast forward 20+ years. I live in a house and have to refrain from telling my kids the same thing.

ChoptankLive ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:49:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow. They weren't lying, they were cooking from scratch. When you cook from scratch the rising of the cake (even worse for bread) can be fragile. Until all the batter reaches the right temp and fills out, there can be voids of air and if a bump or jarring caused it to escape too quickly the cake will fall or cal apse in that spot.

It is a lesser risk with box cake today but still has an impact. If you bump and jar the modern box batter, instead of a collapsed area, you get a thinner, more dense cake. You should broaden your cooking horizons and you will see that the scratch recipes, with all their collapsable frailty are orders of magnitude superior to what you are used to.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:50:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mom always told us that Medusa lived in the corn fields by my aunts house and we had to be really quiet so wouldn't wake her up. At least 30 minutes of quiet time...smart

inthemeadow2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:27:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My husband still believes this one and has shushed me around a baking cake.

plop0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:42 on August 26, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

hahaha. this is so cute!

SilentJoe1986 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I get amazing results with "SHUT THE FUCK UP!"

DemeaningSarcasm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:58:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

.....that took you 20 years?

PM-ME-YOUR-STOMACH ยท 4385 points ยท Posted at 00:59:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother is the anti vaxxer, Kony 2012, chemtrails type person. I believed every lie she told me and of course I told everyone at school this shit. It gained me reputation as the weird kid and nobody believed me for a long time.

dalikin ยท 3240 points ยท Posted at 04:23:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

reputation as the weird kid

Was that reputation really unfair, PM-ME-YOUR-STOMACH?

regendo ยท 116 points ยท Posted at 05:25:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How would we even do that?

[deleted] ยท 115 points ยท Posted at 05:55:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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roflmaohaxorz ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 06:07:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

in a new, immortal form, for his enjoyment.

( อกยฐ อœส– อกยฐ)

friedkeenan ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 06:12:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or have a 3D scan of your stomach, and send him the file to 3D-print later

wd3war ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 09:04:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Way to be a wet blanket, Buzz Killington.

MagFrag5891 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or shank yourself and shove a camera in the wound.

It's cost effective, but it ain't really worth it. I speak from experience.

Redditer-1 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:40:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Electroatomize me your stomach.

elastic-craptastic ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:07:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Computer... Make it so.

That reminds me of the Star Trek transporter. But in this case it's OP just calling for random people's tummies like he would be using the replicator.

edrz ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 07:52:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Those endoscopy photos I have will finally be useful!

PMME_YOURACTUAL_EYES ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 12:34:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know.

TophatDapps ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:26:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Y'know, I wasn't gonna, but your username makes a compelling argument. BRB, getting knives.

RangerRick61 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:43:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Spoons might be easier. To each their own.

Pizza_Delivery_Dog ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:11:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So not my fake eyes?

SSpectre86 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:58:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Presumably he means the midsection, not the actual organ.

WarlordTim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:32:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Carefully

TheHappyKraken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:23:13 on August 26, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mid-driff is umff.

NewWorldOrder781 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 05:32:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hey stomachs are nice!

sumitviii ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:19:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Leave the stomach people alone.

Sorry, came on its own.

bless_ure_harte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:30 on August 26, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You have people in your stomach?

sumitviii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:51:42 on August 26, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Its a Rick and Morty reference. Stomach people, I think, like trunk people, will have potbellies which will aid in sex. In ways I can't imagine.

bless_ure_harte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:09:54 on August 26, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
KRIEGLERR ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:48:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Come on now, stomach are fucking sexy dude.

[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 04:54:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Imnotveryfunatpartys ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 05:13:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He's making fun of his username

eltomato159 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:22:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

His mother indoctrinated him into having a stomach fetish

TerryTibbsTalkToMe ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:23:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Abs are sexy yo!

manawesome326 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 06:05:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You must be fun at parties.

Enkryptikon ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:39:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Whoosh

Crushgaunt ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:13:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Huh. A redditor has a good point.

zer0cul ยท 282 points ยท Posted at 04:39:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Relevant XKCD to help you mess with your mom.

ddoubles ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 09:17:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's how you birth a new conspiracy. Now the XKCD is a misinformation tool used by the New World Order to instill confusion, uncertainty and doubt.

thtrf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:10:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Leafdissector ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:54:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cobbleking32486 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:32:11 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is it bad that I already know exactly what comic that is without clicking?

csl512 ยท 1213 points ยท Posted at 03:59:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The trails behind airplanes are crystal dihydrogen monoxide.

Edit: And they're hexagonal

MissMillyMinkins ยท 102 points ยท Posted at 05:02:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

dhmo.org

Everything you need to know about the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide.

[deleted] ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 05:21:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This... is a problem

MissMillyMinkins ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 05:24:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But atheletes use it to enhance their performances! And it's in all of our reservoirs!

I mean, come on. It's hilarious. I recommend posting it to your facebook.

Depressed_Rex ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 05:59:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I swear I'm going to fuck with as many people with this as I do with "your toddler has no kneecaps."

Cylon_Toast ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:21:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Care to share some anecdotes?

SquatMaster3000 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:30:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't give WADA any ideas or they'll ban it!

foxfire66 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:11:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If I'm not mistaken there's been at least one politician that tried to ban it. I think it was a woman from New Zealand.

carbonnanotube ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:42:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We have a new guy at work who is fresh out of high school and took no science courses. Through the boss's Indian temple he somehow managed to get a job doing analytical chemistry.

I have been spending the past few weeks casually mentioning how dangerous dhmo is. If he doesn't figure it out soon I will let him in on the joke, but it is pretty sad that we have a guy in the lab who doesn't get it.

ELEPHANTBomb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:47:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They seem so serious here, we're talking about water here right?

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:00:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What's that question mark doing there?

Mercinary909 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It is water, but the site is a joke to trick people into supporting a ban on it, just to reveal it's just water.

rylos ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:24:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's what plants crave.

MissMillyMinkins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:58:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

GMO crop growth is dependent on frequent and liberal application of dhmo, much of which runs off into rivers and streams.

SpiderOnTheInterwebs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:00:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Probably should get one of these machines

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:40:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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m808v ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:21:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm very certain it's satire.

Here's the last part of the 'uses of DHMO':

in cult rituals, by the Church of Scientology on their members and their members' families (although surprisingly, many members recently have contacted DHMO.org to vehemently deny such use), by both the KKK and the NAACP during rallies and marches, by members of Congress who are under investigation for financial corruption and inappropriate IM behavior, by kids who play Beyblades, by the clientele at a number of bath houses in New York City and San Francisco, historically, in Hitler's death camps in Nazi Germany, and in prisons in Turkey, Serbia, Croatia, Libya, Iraq and Iran, in World War II prison camps in Japan, and in prisons in China, for various forms of torture, during many recent religious and ethnic wars in the Middle East, by many terrorist organizations including al Qaeda, in community swimming pools to maintain chemical balance, in day care centers, purportedly for sanitary purposes, by software engineers, including those producing DICOM software and other DICOM software tools, by popular computer science professors, by aspiring young adult fiction writers and mental health advocates, by international travel bloggers, by the semi-divine King Bhumibol of Thailand and his many devoted young working girls in Bangkok, by the British Chiropractic Association and the purveyors of the bogus treatments that the BCA promotes, by commodities giant Trafigura in their well-publicized and widely-known toxic-waste dumping activities in Ivory Coast, in animal research laboratories, and in pesticide production and distribution.

DJ-OuTbREaK ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:07:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

...you do realize that dihydrogen monoxide is water, right? It's a joke.

Mercinary909 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:29:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Lol you really missed the joke. Dhmo is one of the scientific names for water, although a seldom used one. The joke is that all the stated effects are completely true about ordinary water (can cause burns, is an ingredient in junk food and acid rain, ect) , abet presented in a fear mongering way to trick people into supporting a ban on it, only to reveal that they just said that they would ban water.

It was originally a project of a student who interviewed students and teachers in his school and asked if they would support a ban on a chemical know as dihydrogen monoxide (di =2 mon=1 ) with the effects listed on the site. All but 2 of the people he interviewed said they would. So of the people interviewed, the majority supported a ban.

I recommend going back and reading it while knowing its a joke, because it's really funny when you understand that it's just water that does all this.

MissMillyMinkins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nathan Zohner was a 14 year old who won his school's science fair with a project titled "How Gullible are We?" In his project, he tried to convince people to ban dihydrogen monoxide and from his sample extrapolated that 86% of the population (of America) would support the ban.

You may be more familiar with dihydrogen monoxide as H2O (2 H + 1 O = 2 hydrogen + 1 oxygen = dihydrogen monoxide)

theandromedan ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 04:44:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Geometry is scary. And a conspiracy.

Pi4zza ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:03:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

S C A R Y

google_results_bot ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:50:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No more parties in LA

Stevegios ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:18:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

W A V Y

Cataphractoi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:33:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's the latest plot by the insidous Al Gebra.

theandromedan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:49:16 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In conjunction with C. Al Culus.

Cataphractoi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:16:51 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Be wary, they've been known to use the matrix to further their goals.

gruso ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 05:23:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

crystal dihydrogen monoxide

I just googled that, and found this: http://www.darylscience.com/Carols/LetItDHMO.html

Depressed_Rex ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:59:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit, I love this

evildustmite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:33:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think we killed the site

Cylon_Toast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:23:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is amazing. Definitely singing it this holiday season.

_The_Real_Guy_ ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:58:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Isn't hexagonical that witch from Harrie Porter?

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:54:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

DHMO! It's in the pipes!

TurbanOnMyDickhead ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 05:15:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not just the pipes! DHMO is found in every school, every government building, and even in our oceans. Everyone who's come in contact with it has died!

foxfire66 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:17:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Minor correction, everyone who's come in contact with it who hasn't died already is going to die. Or you could word it that no one who has ever touched it has died from old age. I recall people saying that so-and-so died from old age when I was young, is that something kids say/are told or is that something people actually believe is possible?

Brudaks ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 10:14:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's better to name a specific fact than a general one.

E.g. instead of "DHMO is found in every school" state that "DHMO was detected in 100% school kitchens in Flint county".

Instead of "Everyone who's come into contact with it has died" state "Accidental inhalation of DHMO kills over 3000 people in USA each year" http://www.cdc.gov/homeandrecreationalsafety/water-safety/waterinjuries-factsheet.html

Zerotan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:30:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everyone who has died had been exposed to it.

hajjr6 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:26:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The nuetrinos...

VikingDom ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:39:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are MUTATING!

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:52:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

FUCK.

Zerotan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:32:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ok...

exits suddenly

Professor_Stokes ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:38:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In case anyone is confused, dihydrogen monoxide is H2O.

m808v ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 11:22:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If anyone is still confused, H2O is water.

Dick_Dandruff ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:28:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And water is ...me?

twopointohyeah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:00:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hi wet.

m808v ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:21:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm dad.

adudeguyman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

FTW

Male3Dante ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks for spreading the word. Keep up the good work!

spongebobzombiepants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Honest question.. is there proof of this? Or is this sarcasm? (And I know the layman's term for dihydrogen monoxide.)

VikingDom ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:50:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Kerosene (jet fuel) is a mixture of hydrocarbons usually defined as being within 10 -16 carbon atoms per chain, so let's say 12 and balance the equation:

2C12H26 (l) + 37O2(g) ---> 24CO2(g) + 26H2O(g)

Boom.. Dihydrogen monoxide or hydroxic acid if you will, and co2.

ncurry18 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:54:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Gasp!

badwolf42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:16:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You know prolonged exposure to it in crystal form can lead to cell death!!

badwolf42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:16:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You know prolonged exposure to it in crystal form can lead to cell death!!

Cylon_Toast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fancy.

spiritbx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:35:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hear 100% of people who get in contact with that end up dying at some point, lethal stuff that is.

Daelach ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:37:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When scaring people with chemical names for water, I find that Hydroxic acid works wonders, because it even says it's an avid.

csl512 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's 55 moles per liter in its liquid form. Concentrated hydrochloric acid is 12, and sulfuric is 18...

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:07:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Snowflakes?

Trogador95 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:35:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Chemically speaking, they're tetrahedral.

csl512 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Which part? The VSEPR around the O?

Trogador95 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No the actual arrangement of the water molecules because of hydrogen bonds. The molecules themselves are bent geometrically, but since those lone pairs also exist, the positive negative interaction between a hydrogen of one molecule and the lone pair on another cause them to arrange tetrahedrally in a lattice structure, but that can appear hexagonal, depending on the angle you're looking at it from. I didn't learn about it till I started a basic biochem class last week.

BluesFan43 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:51:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Crystalline dihydrogen monoxide, packed into a hexagonal structure to make more room.

Also, high bypass jet engines. They allow greater payloads and more effective mixing. (I rolled that one out to a new coworker a few years ago, he thought he had fallen into crazy until the laughter srarted)

Bonobosaurus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:01:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And hexagons are the Devil's polygon.

Kalkaline ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:22:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They're only dangerous if they spin counter clockwise and get negative ions.

danwroy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:53:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

hex

ded

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:09:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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csl512 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That statistic is only counting crystal... Think about all the liquid DHMO deaths.

It's in that green pool at Rio.

Hairy_Viking ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:26:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you saying airplanes make it snow?!

ItsJustJoss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

~gasp~ NOT DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!!!!

chiminage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And the reason they hang in the air and form clouds is because the crystals act as cloud seeds. That's why on certain days you see more of them than others...the temperature is different

Syrupwizard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So can you... Snort it?

r_il ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait...how many chemtrails?

northrupthebandgeek ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:53:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can never remember if it's pronounced hexagonal or hexagonal.

MrStigglesworth ยท 162 points ยท Posted at 03:25:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

anti vaxxer, Kony 2012, chemtrails type person

When did Kony 2012 start getting lumped in with that? I thought Kony 2012 was just a poster for how people on social media act like they give a shit about everything and then just forget about it a week later.

[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 03:52:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's what it is now but I think he's referring to when everyone just accepted the Kony video at face value as truth.

originalpoopinbutt ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 04:55:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I mean the video didn't really lie about anything did it? It was just really dumb and naive to expect an "awareness-raising" campaign to actually do anything about some warlord in Uganda.

D0ctorrWatts ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 05:14:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The the night walkers he speaks about in the video were no longer a problem by 2012, the LRA was no longer operating in Uganda, and Joseph Kony had left the country entirely.

What Jason Russell was advocating was armed military intervention in a sovereign and relatively peaceful region to bring to justice one evil warlord in a country chock full of evil warlords.

CaptHayes ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 06:05:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

relatively peaceful

chock full of evil warlords

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:25:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Relatively is the key word! Before it was to-the-brim with warlords. Now it's only chock full

originalpoopinbutt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh.

xxnekochan666xx ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 04:06:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well it turned out to be blown way out of proportion. The LRA was losing influence and Joseph Kony was probably dead. Also there were legitimate concerns about where the money was going that people donated. Not entirely related but the guy that made the documentary publicly masturbated in the middle of San Diego and it was filmed so that also made everything seem worse.

StuckInHoleSendHelp ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 04:24:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jackin' it, jackin' it, jackity jack.

xxnekochan666xx ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:52:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lol I completely forgot about the South Park episode and you just reminded me

https://youtu.be/0t_56ck18g8

ddaveo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:50:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And now I have that song stuck in my head

mw69 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 04:29:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

probably dead

What? He's very much alive. US currently has a fair amount of forces deployed in Uganda with the job of finding and capturing the dude.

From 2014: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-26712774

xxnekochan666xx ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:47:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He could be alive, I think the resources need to be used to find out if he's alive or dead and if he's alive obviously bring him to justice. However at the time the documentary was made people pointed out he's past the average life expectancy of Ugandan man and no one's seen or heard from him in quite a while. There's also the lifestyle the guy leads living as a guerilla in the jungle, a number of things could have happened to him.

BEAN_FOR_LIFE ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:04:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that banana diet is not good for the human-guerilla intestine

yomerol ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:16:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think he means that she's sheeple

MrStigglesworth ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:31:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah but the anti-vaxxers and chemtrails people are the ones who say shit like "wake up sheeple" to the kony 2012 people. Or at least that's what I thought.

HiMyNameIsBoard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

By the time the video came out Kony was a non-issue

Jacosion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:25:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly?

MrStigglesworth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:06:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, I thought anti-vaxxer and chemtrail people were nutters who would go on and on about it and accuse everyone else of being sheeple. I didn't think there was a lot of overlap.

Jacosion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think that it's lumped in because OP's mom thinks like that. Willing to latch on to every conspiracy she hears. Then sort've forgets it later.

Pa5trick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Kony 2012 was a waste of time. By the time it was started/got some traction, Kony was already out of power!

[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:23:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lol my parents are the same exact way but I was homeschoooled until high school. I had to switch schools twice before I realize the problem was me and not everyone else is an asshole.

DinduMuffins69 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:24:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is she voting Kony 2016?

[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 04:53:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

#MakeUgandaShittyAgain

Irminsul773 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Isn't it always shitty?

Kitbixby ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:43:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait, is Kony 2012 not real? My comm arts teacher had us write papers on that after watching the video.

originalpoopinbutt ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 04:57:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Kony is real. He really is a warlord and he kidnapped and tortured children to use as child soldiers.

But the video was kinda misleading because A) Kony and his forces have been inactive for a while and he might even be dead, no one's heard from him in years; and B) it was silly and naive to expect a social media campaign to accomplish anything about the Kony problem. What are teenagers 10,000 miles away supposed to do by "spreading awareness"?

CrackFerretus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:56:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

comm arts teacher

What does that even mean?

No, Kony 2012 was a massive scam, all the money paid off employees, they spent alot of money dumping posters over uganda for some reason, and the little they saved just aided with the recruitment of children. The rest lined a few peoples pockets.

Kitbixby ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:50:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Communication Arts teacher. It's basically an English teacher, but at my school if you took English, it was to learn English (as a second language) just like you took French or Spanish. So we had communication arts teachers who taught the typical stuff like the finer points of English like grammar, poetry, essays, story telling, as well has how to accurately express yourself through "unconventional" means like painting, drawing, music, etc.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:56:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair a lot of people bought into Kony. Not just weirdos.

TehKatieMonster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not an anti vaxxer but I can't get vaccines because my dad is at risk. If he gets sick because I do he could die. I told someone this and they told me that was a lie, and I was like "doctors literally warn me this can happen, it even says so on the label of the vaccines you stupid cunt." Vaccines are a good thing. They stop polio and measles, but some people have good reasons for not getting them.

duermevela ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I understand him not getting them, but isn't he more at risk if you get the real infection than the vaccine?

TehKatieMonster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

no. It basically works like this, as long as everyone else does their part and gets vaccinated like they are supposed to than the herd will be healthy. Which protects people with immune disorders. Also unless I go lick someone with polio or measles I am not going to get it, where as if I take the vaccine its putting me in direct risk of having an immune reaction which can spread to my dad and make him sick. I haven't been seriously ill since I had my last vaccine. They do make you sick, but someone said they are supposed to? IDK. I've just decided not to get anymore until my daughter starts going to school and spending less time with her grandfather. I don't feel like its necessary to get them yet because I am a stay at home mom, and my daughter stays at home with little to no contact with other kids. She has gotten vaccines for the first six months of her life though.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't worry. Everyone on Facebook was a Kony 2012 type of person

whatsausername90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom likes conspiracy theories, but mostly when they're about the imminent collapse of government. Apparently we've had apocalyptic societal chaos "just around the corner" for at least a decade. Thanks Obama.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

cool i voted for kony in 2012!

almondjoy12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:58:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom believes that there's a death panel trying to figure out ways to kill off the baby boomers.

Theoden_TapirMaster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I grew up uber-mormon. I feel ya.

rwbeckman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hippies, theyre called Hippies

Andolomar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:51:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I became a vegetarian because my mother took me to this nutritionist who told me that I shouldn't eat meat because my blood type is AB- (some more weird Japanese "too much or not enough" shit that's been exported from their land) which made me "allergic" to meat, and my mother was all over that so of course I was too.

Turns out it's bullshit. Who'd've guessed. Well I didn't until I'd spent about ten years telling everybody who asked me why I was vegetarian.

My mother still gets caught up in her weird phases and fusses over stupid fads; it took me forever to explain that a superfood was just a food product that was slightly better than another similar product. She had the idea in her head that quinoa or whatever the hell it is should be a bulk part of our diet. We ate fucking quinoa and nowt else literally every day for about a week until my brother threw it up because she couldn't cook it properly.

I cook my own meals now. It's quite interesting to see what she's cooking sometimes.

Needmorecowbe11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:52:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I got super lucky that my mother didn't start adopting these beliefs until I had already started to establish my own. She also believes Jews were behind 9/11 and is a holocaust denier.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents are anti vaxxers too and completely against conventional medicine. I didn't go to the doctor until I was 20 and I'm still trying to unlearn all the misinformation they spread. I was also home schooled for most of my life.

TheGoluxNoMereDevice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:22:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Came here to say this... luckily for me I started doing my own research at 11, realized it was all bull shit. Now I'm off to college in January to be a doctor. So best teen rebellion of all time =p

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:22:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I enjoy that Kony 2012 is now in the same category as chemtrails.

Squidblimp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:22:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's good to be a skeptic, IMO. Don't let your mother's delusions blind to you everything that is a conspiracy.

Yes, chemtrails and Kony 2012 are BS.

But vaccines are interesting. Some are great, and others (like the Flu vaccine, which uses last year's strain to cure this year's strain) are just money grabs. We over-vaccinate these days, when only a few vaccines are necessary.

It's good to use your brain, and think about stuff, and then decide if it should be believed or not.

CrashDunning ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:50:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Kony 2012

Can someone explain to me why this is bad?

laman012 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:04:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And then they all realized you were right!

Chooseday ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:06:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair, most of reddit was a Kony 2012 type of person. Gullible.

PoisonousPlatypus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:16:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother is the anti vaxxer, Kony 2012, chemtrails type person.

One of those things is not like the others.

_GameSHARK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:22:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had forgotten entirely about that Kony thing. Time to go ask Wikipedia to remind me what it's about.

Tokemon_and_hasha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:27:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Really curious are you serious about the pm me your stomach thing? I too find stomachs very attractive, normal ones mind you not big ones.

oliverbm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:32:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Still don't to be fair

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:04:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents were anti vaccine too.

nlpnt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:08:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Chemtrails? Aw c'mon...

They stopped doing that a few years ago. Turns out it's a lot more cost-effective and targeted to put the stuff in tiny vials and sell it to the sheeple as vape juice.

m4cktheknife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So she's Luna Lovegood, but in adult form.

jboulter11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:10:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sorry, Looney Lovegood.

frog_licker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit, one of those things is not like the others

samanwilson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Looney Luna

evilfisher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:12:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Kony 2012

pro war propaganda funded by governments dressed as humanitarian effort

disgusting propaganda

Asdayasman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:22:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

PM-ME-YOUR-STOMACH

Oh shit @Grummz, is that you?

karmagirl314 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair, it felt like everyone fell for Kony 2012.

captainbluemuffins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

mulder life huh

plop0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:25 on August 26, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

naturopaths are so incredibly misinformed.

anti gmo people are misinformed, too.

/r/gmomyths

Wheres_The_Whiskey ยท 12493 points ยท Posted at 22:58:01 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The wrong rules to Monopoly

Baconlightning ยท 6845 points ยท Posted at 23:17:09 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like everyone has their own rules when it comes to monopoly.

Manleather ยท 5305 points ยท Posted at 23:38:25 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And they all suck.

19southmainco ยท 10779 points ยท Posted at 00:54:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My wife and i have very pointed arguments about free parking. She grew up in a household where if you landed on free parking, you got $500 dollars. I told her that her parents did her no favors coddling her growing up and now she is a weak land baron.

Manleather ยท 5622 points ยท Posted at 01:04:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's called 'free parking', not 'free money'.

Birdyer ยท 1356 points ยท Posted at 01:18:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Besides, you don't really need that much money if you just become a slum lord and buy up the first two sets of property and improve them.

Econdg ยท 594 points ยท Posted at 02:09:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I used community chest and chance for that money. Like "pay fee"

DJVaporSnag ยท 847 points ยท Posted at 04:35:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep. That's how I learned. It all goes into the middle of the board and every few turns someone gets rich. Makes the game literally go forever.

altiuscitiusfortius ยท 88 points ยท Posted at 05:23:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you follow the actual rules of the game on the box, a game of monopoly lasts around 30 minutes. It feels weird playing by them.

[deleted] ยท 122 points ยท Posted at 06:20:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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tinteoj ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:26:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, you're thinking of "Risk".

bossbozo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:39 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Never played risk, but that does sound risky

Ancillas ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 06:54:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's because everyone skips the auction phase after someone decides not to purchase a property. The forced auction changes everything.

cgimusic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:57:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'd be surprised if that actually speeds things up. In any games of Monopoly I've played everyone buys any property they land on.

Ancillas ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:30:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bidding may begin at any price, so properties can go for as little as $5. Basically, more properties are purchased earlier on because they can be bought for less.

bossbozo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:31:49 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

$10 (according to the modern rule book)

cgimusic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:31:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe everyone I play with over-values properties but no one ever lets a property go to auction. When properties are being traded between players for cash they always sell for more than the face value.

PurpleSkua ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:54:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Surely there must be situations when people land on a property they can't afford?

cgimusic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:32:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Generally, I've found no, at least not when you are playing with a reasonable number of players.

altiuscitiusfortius ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:05:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's because you have nine other house rules that feed people money. In "real rules" monopoly you really only get money for passing go, and that 200 gets spend on rent real quick going around the board. Then when you cant pay, your mortage or sell property, and its a quick downward spiral out of the game.

cgimusic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:11:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But early on the rents are incredibly low because no one can collect a set and build houses on them. Generally no one will even agree to trade to get a set until all properties have been sold.

Jimmers1231 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:25:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Except for the early part of the game when everyone is landpoor.

Twinge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:10 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep, this is the case. You start with too much money in the game as well, so auctions don't happen much because it is correct to buy virtually every property you land on always, and you can generally afford to do so.

It's still a good rule that should be used, but it doesn't speed things up too significantly; not using any bad variants that inject extra money into the game from free parking, etc. will speed things up drastically more.

bossbozo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:10 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In that case you are not needing auctions, i never straight up buy greens or utilities unlesd needed as bargaining chips

dukemetoo ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 06:58:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The biggest problem with the game is people complain the game is mean and makes people lose. So they adjust the rules so no one losses. Then they complain the game takes to long.

Atario ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:03:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

people complain the game is mean and makes people lose

No one seems to get that that was the whole point

bossbozo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:28:01 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

From experience I'd say it lasts anywhere between 1 and 2 hours, but closer to 2 hours. 30 minutes is way too fast are you A) developing properties before matching sets? B) developing properties unevenly (ie building more than one house on one property without building any on the same colour group) ?

Twinge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:26 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'd say more like 1.5-2 hours -- but importantly the game actually ends. It's still not a good game at all compared to modern boardgames you could be playing instead, but it's only bad instead of terrible if you use the correct rules.

vogonicpoet ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 05:02:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family now calls that "government bailout" space now.

imsurprisedtomeetme ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:43:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thats amazing.. love it

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:41:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I would consider buying a well made glossy sticker if I owned a monopoly board.

Darathin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:52:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When someone lands on it, does the player who owns the most property get the money that you've accumulated there?

FrOzenOrange1414 ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 04:47:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just like the real corporate monopolies the game is supposed to represent!

LilSweden ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 07:56:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The game is supposed to show that monopolies are bad. In what way does it prove this point by having several players survive?

All the various house rules drag the game out forever, including this one. If you play the "right" way, one person can easily snowball, screw everyome else over, and win. Then they'll all be salty because monopoly sucks, and the point has been made.

JaysFanSinceSept2015 ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 04:51:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep the game was originally intended to show that monopolies are bad

Soarinc ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:20:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is comcast a monopoly?

kiss_my_what ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:23:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep and the bank goes broke, requiring a bail-out occasionally to keep up it's commitments (actually not that different to reality).

sppw ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 06:03:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The bank isn't allowed to go broke. Personally, due to that I just keep track of my money on paper and don't use the bills. Number of houses/hotels on the other hand are limited. Thats why 4 houses is better than 1 hotel - Other players cant get houses once they run out, therefore forcing them to upgrade all their properties to hotel at once if they want to improve them (requiring an obscene amount of money).

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:22:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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sppw ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:28:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You do. To buy a hotel on a property, you also need to buy all 4 houses on all the properties of that colour at least. After that hotels can be bought. However if there are no houses remaining, you need to bypass the houses and upgrade to a hotel. Therefore you have to pay the price of 4 houses per property + the cost of a hotel on each property. This is a massive amount of money which allows you to put hotels directly - at the cost of paying for 4 houses and the hotel per property.

Tellmeister ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:47:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's not the rule. You actually need to buy 4 houses before you get an hotel. If there is no more houses you can't get a hotel since you can't buy houses.

Also optimal strategy is to only buy 3 houses not 4. This is due to the rent jump between 2 and 3 houses while the gap between 3 and 4 is neglectable.

bgoldman86 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:56:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But this is Monopoly. If you upgrade to four houses, even if it's less cost effective than three, then that is one fewer house that anybody else can buy. If you do this enough, nobody else can buy houses. It's a good strategy as long as not everyone does it.

AmadeusMop ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 09:58:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Yeah, but if you have multiple monopolies, it's more cost effective to upgrade each up to 3 first rather than up to 4.

bgoldman86 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:03:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes but you should not be optimizing for cost effectiveness. You should be trying to create a shortage of houses so that other players can't get them. Even if the fourth house generated zero extra revenue vs three houses, it would still be worthwhile to upgrade all your monopolies to four houses.

Obviously you should have three on every property you own before adding fourth houses, but you should still add a fourth house wherever possible rather than saving your money in the name of efficiency, unless you're really low on money.

AmadeusMop ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:05:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you have multiple monopolies, and you're deciding which one to upgrade, prioritizing building houses is no longer relevant, since you're already going to be building houses. That's when you you take cost-effectiveness into account.

bgoldman86 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:09:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That doesn't negate what I said at all. I didn't say anything about what order to build them in my original comment, and in the last one I actually mentioned what you just said.

AmadeusMop ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 10:24:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So...you do agree with what I originally said?

bgoldman86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:28:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes. I think we thought we disagreed with each other but misunderstood that. We're talking about the same strategy, lol.

Squid0110 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:27:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You do. The key is not to upgrade the four houses to a hotel because it limits the number of houses the other players have to build

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:33:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Tellmeister ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:48:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's the official rules. You're playing it correctly.

Squid0110 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:34:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm fairly certain it's official rules

ItsJustJoss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:03:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is the best "house rule" ever. When somebody taught me that one, I never played any other way. All fees, fines, etc. Went to the middle, and whoever landed on free parking got a nice little pot. I think we even played with the bank chipping in $50 to start it off so the pot was never empty.

ImGonnaKickTomorrow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:38:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Makes the game literally go forever.

So you're still playing that very first Monopoly game with your parents? That sounds like it could quite possibly be hell... Eternal Monopoly. Ugh! ๐Ÿ˜– You have my pity.

DJVaporSnag ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:13:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My real regret is roping my own children into this game not long ago.

perezper ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:09:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We would put tax fees/chance fees in the center pot or "lotto" and whenever someone landed in free parking they had to roll 1 die for the lotto. If they rolled a 6, the pot was theirs, if not, the pot was left alone. Once all properties are bought and the game has essentially reached full swing, we would shift to a pair of dice with the winning numbers being 11 and 12 to decide. Keeps money out of play and shortens the game to a degree but still adds the flavor of big payout luck every once in a while.

solepsis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Which is totally the opposite of the point of the game...

IICVX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's because parents don't want anyone to "lose", though honestly getting to stop playing monopoly is more of a reward than anything.

randomascanbe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:27:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here.

Cobbleking32486 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:51 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I used both.

Leon_84 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:23:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One of the best strategies is to get lots of cheap streets and buy all the houses you can afford. But only houses, no hotels. If you play by the rules, noone else can buy houses if none are left in the bank or wherever you keep them.

So now you own all the shitty places with rates higher than any of the the undeveloped rich spaces.

And then you just wait.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:25:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

By odds of people landing on spaces, the best properties to have are in the row after Jail. But those are good too.

abc123shutthefuckup ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:19:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

More specifically, the second group after jail (orange, I believe). The first group (pink) is actually pretty bad. The only worse groups are the utilities and the very first group (purple)

Railroads are pretty good too. Owning all 4 is pretty close to having a monopoly with multiple houses

FarSightXR-20 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 02:50:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

fuck yes. this is my go-to strategy

Birdyer ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 02:55:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Usually I also end up getting all the yellow tiles by pure luck, and at three houses they go from like ~310 to ~840 money. All while I fuck over other players ability to improve property with my gigantic stores of money. It also helps that I play with a bunch of newbs who fight over the utilities.

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:33:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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RoosterCheese ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:34:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nah fam orange

Birdyer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:43:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know that yellow takes a lot of money, but I always seem to get a full set of yellow first so I end up upgrading it first for some cash. I'm not that great a player, but I've never played against anyone super great at monopoly so I've never really had a chance to improve that much. I totaly agree on light blue being a great investment.

DJVaporSnag ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:36:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Found the actual competitive player.

FarSightXR-20 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

haha. :D

Birdyer ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:05:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not exactly sure whether this is 100% allowed in the proper rules, but in our monopoly games we allow players to negotiate deals not only for money, property, etc. But for trading get out of jail free cards, n-time(s)/permanent immunity to paying rent on a subset of the players properties, etc. So to make the game more fun I set up deals where people trade away all of their most valuable properties just to get a free pass threw "death alley" (or so they have taken to calling the brown and light blue tiles I own) meaning I end up controlling all the dark blue, green, pink, and railroads as well, to varying degrees (I'll usually get a complete set of at least 2). Unfortunately nobody wants to play monopoly with me anymore.

theniceguytroll ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:34:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well trading the get out of jail free card is certainly legal, but I'm not sure about the rest. Then again, it's a board game, so you can do what you want.

Mobile_user_1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:47:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is the whole point. You can totally have a micro economy going.

Philoso4 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:08:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Brown and light blue monopolies are quick, easy ways to build up capital to improve the real money makers that are orange and red. If they really call that Death Valley, they are idiots; there are four alternatives to landing on your squares, the least valuable properties on the board.

Birdyer ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:11:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They rarely have enough assets that my properties won't drain them after 1-2 hits.

Philoso4 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:07:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Then your friends are terrible at playing monopoly. If you've accumulated enough to build on those properties before they can accumulate enough to pay you, they're doing something completely wrong. There are four alternatives on that row, and they're the properties with the cheapest rent. Red and orange are statistically the most landed on properties in the game, those are death row if you build on them.

Birdyer ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:11:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They rarely have enough assets that my properties won't drain them after 1-2 hits.

RosieRedditor ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:32:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's true for real life also.

JarrettP ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:37:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I go for 4 houses so nobody else can upgrade.

cailihphiliac ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:29:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But then you pay a ton for building repairs

KirbyMorph ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:48:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The joys of gentrification.

gomanio ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:20:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My strategy is to buy up the entire strip of land from the start and the rail roads. Towards mid game I try for boardwalk and park place. The entire game I pretty much chant, "Slummm lorddddd" and it gets in peoples head pretty good. It works nicely because a lot of people only go for the good value land and not the cheap stuff.

NerdRising ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:36:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I won the game by doing that once. I had everything from 'Go' to 'Jail'. Everyone was in debt to me.

Dogfish90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is a great strategy. People ignore Mediterranean avenue... until they land on my hotel and have to pawn their firstborn child to pay the rent.

sapereaud33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you really want to be an ass (and win) build up to four houses on all your properties asap but never build hotels, you'll run out of houses and no one else will be able to buy them.

AwfulWaffleWalker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I always aim for the shitty first row. I've won so many games that way especially because people greatly underestimate them so they'll trade them off easily.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:14:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

you don't really need that much money if you just become a slum lord and buy up the first two sets of property and improve them.

I only improve them on the outside. On the inside that whole place can go down in a blaze if you turn the faucet too quick.

NomadicKrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:43:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

if you just become a slum lord and buy up the first two sets of property and improve them.

No improvements. Baltic and Mediterranean look like Kowloon when I'm done. WELCOME TO THE SLUMS.

Kalkaline ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:19:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Buy up everything to try to get a monopoly, then improve to 4 houses but don't get the hotels and cause a housing shortage.

Rando_gabby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My strategy was the next three

CaptHorney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

... improve them? It's like you don't even know what a slum lord is.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:24:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Birdyer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:32:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They cost very little to purchase and improve and net you a lot of money. If you can get 4 houses on a bunch of properties- removing the ability for opponents to upgrade any housing, then you remove the ability for anyone else to improve their property as well.

cragglerock93 ยท 3336 points ยท Posted at 03:52:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Our rule (unofficial?) was that whoever landed on free parking got all the money collected from fines from the Community Chest etc.

DaTaco ยท 1761 points ยท Posted at 04:22:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It actually slows the game way down. Seriously try it without that modification and it's a totally different game.

RussellGrey ยท 1324 points ยท Posted at 04:55:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Absolutely correct. It's a problem because it introduces more money into the economy that shouldn't be there when the point of the game is to bankrupt people. It makes the game take way longer to finish.

caninehere ยท 244 points ยท Posted at 05:52:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A lot of people also assume that the game is supposed to be played by going around the board and buying the properties you land on, which means it takes several goes around before all properties are purchased.

The actual rules are that if you land on a property and decide not to purchase it, any other player can make any offer they wish and others can bid higher, with the highest bidder getting the property... which means after one go many more properties will have sold.

notsuitablethrowaway ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 05:54:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I remember this from Star Wars Monopoly on PC. Makes sense.

TaterNbutter ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:06:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

SEGA Genesis version of monopoly for me!

masonkbr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:35:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That game was the shit. I remember playing that when i was like 6 years old.... Thanks for reminding me about it!

SeenSoFar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:25:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"We've got Star Warsย Monopoly,ย Rasta-Mon-Opoly,ย Galip-Olopoly, Edna Krabappoly?!"

HolycommentMattman ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 06:57:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So we always played with the official rule set. Everyone always buys everything they land on. Not buying something is foolish.

It's a ridiculous rule that hardly ever comes up.

insaneblane ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:48:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well sometimes you can't afford to buy everything you land on. Especially if you want to focus on securing a set over having random properties.

Theonetrue ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:54:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It is worth pawning stuff you dont need to buy more stuff... I think I did not buy a property once in my life.

HolycommentMattman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:10:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sure, sometimes. But even in a 2 player game, that's pretty rare, and that's the most common game you'll see it in.

TheCastro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:12:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We've done the bidding and everyone saves money in the long run.

Nenor ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 07:08:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Who the hell doesn't buy a property? That sounds stupid as hell.

wurblefurtz ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 07:59:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Letting things go to auction means you can make someone overpay for a property they really want or if you see your opponents are strapped for cash you can pick one up for peanuts.

gtsomething ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:23:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Poor people

PM_ME_UR_DOGGOS ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:40:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can't always afford what you land on.

1609344 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:45:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you have run out of money or want to save the money you have so you can complete a set.

Koras ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also the gamble - you could potentially pay less than the asking price if nobody wants it enough, or if they're about to hit your properties you make them dump out their money so if they pay it hurts them hard.

My personal favourite is looking how much people have and getting a discount. Asking price is 1500 and they only have 1000? Better believe i'm putting it up for auction and getting a sweet discount because they're not going to put up all their money, and it's still cheaper if they do

CastorTyrannus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:01:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A lot of people.

PRabahy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:40:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Utilities, greys, and purple are over priced at face value. There is almost never a reason to buy them. Also if everyone is out of money you can auction a property and end up getting it cheaper than just buying it.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:45:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you have a color set on pink you're not gonna waste money on a green that could be used for houses

NO_TOUCHING__lol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:12 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not buying the property doesn't exclude you from the auction. You (active player) get first crack at it for face value, then it moves to auction, and you can also bid on it. You can get it for cheap this way, with the risk that someone else might pick it up if they want to pay more.

Shelwyn ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 06:15:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow really??????????????? Waaaaaaaa

Inprobamur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:59:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also: Housing Shortage. Strategically buying 4 houses on every property you own to deny hotels and houses for other players.

AgAero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nobody actually reads the directions do they? I played with my nephew last week, and since I hadn't played in years I sat there and read through most of them. This is in there.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:42:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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AgAero ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:46:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you have some friends worth getting drunk with outside of a party or bar atmosphere, a night of monopoly is kind of entertaining. Just my 2 cents.

Supersnazz ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:46:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Assuming you have even remotely rational players this shouldn't matter at all. If you land on a property, you buy it, it's as simple as that. No property should go to auction because nobody is stupid enough to not want to buy a property. The only exceptions are maybe the utilities. Everything else is too valuable to pass up.

kermi42 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:56:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cautious players might feel like holding onto cash is more important early in the game, or not have the money to pay for them. You have to play aggressively, which means mortgaging the properties you own to secure more.

Believe it or not, most people who grew up playing Monopoly with house rules are completely oblivious to this and it's easy to blindside them.

YetiRoosevelt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:07:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is only true as a general principle. Sacrificing one or two properties, especially in a game where everyone else is buying them instantly, results in bidding wars that make an otherwise valuable rent trap just a sunk cost, and it may critically weaken another player very early on. (For maximum hilarity and the best demonstration of this principle, do this with Boardwalk or Park Place.)

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YetiRoosevelt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:15:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Yes - win the property for a fraction of the listed buying price in an auction.

When everyone is cash-strapped after buying most of the properties, they're very hesitant to engage in any kind of bidding, even when they see you undercutting the property you just landed on. On the other hand, you can just as easily exploit the person who's determined so that you don't get a discount in auction.

Supersnazz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:10:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah good point. If you get a cheap set early on, like the sets just after 'Go' where houses cost $50, you might let 2 other opponents battle for an expensive property in the hope they spend too much and you can build up houses and hotels quickly and kill them before they can even get a foothold.

caninehere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:20:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh yeah, I agree - but it also gives incentive for people to buy properties every time they land, even if they are running out of funds, which makes the game go faster.

It's not so much that people reject that rule, it's that a lot of people don't even know it's a thing. Same with free parking - a lot of people just assume that's a rule that you get the community pot.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

two problems is

1) get enough people and it splits the land up enough no one person has enough of a set to build and no one will trade because base property fees are so small that hitting GO will be enough to cover you around the board and everyone is terrified to give anyone a full set.

2) I've seen some things go up and no one bid on them

JimDixon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everyone I've ever played with seems to follow the strategy of buying everything they can, as soon as possible; you pass up an opportunity to buy something only if you're running short of cash--and even then, it might be advantageous to mortgage some of your existing property to raise enough cash to buy more property. So opportunities to buy stuff at auction don't come up very often.

But you're right: most people seem not to know about this rule and don't follow it.

Nubcake_Jake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:36:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But the smart move is normally to buy everything you land on, because properties are cheap to buy compared to their value.

Americanstandard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:49:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The smart move is to get a monopoly early, then spend all of your money buying houses and don't upgrade to hotels. No one else can buy houses because you have nearly all of them and you will win in a few turns.

Nubcake_Jake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:45:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You need the properties to trade, if anyone will do that, or a lot of luck to get a monopoly by landing on it. If you get properties you have a good chance of preventing other monopolies. I suppose this can fall short if you start running low on cash.

dutch_penguin ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 06:55:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

the point of the game is to bankrupt people

Isn't the point of the game to destroy relationships?

Soltea ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 11:44:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is Risk

RussellGrey ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:39:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nah. That's the game Diplomacy.

I_DontWantA_Username ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Settlers of catan

Sebmund ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:46:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, shit. TIL.

1609344 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:46:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Incredible how many people don't know this when it's right there in the rules of every monopoly set.

insaneblane ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:49:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nobody bothers to read the rules to a game they already "know how to play"

JimDixon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Most people never read the rules. They just play the way they've been taught to play by friends--who were taught by other friends--and so on. Just like most of life. Just like how people who have never cracked a law book in their lives think they know what is legal and what is illegal.

Let_the_bakers_bake ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 05:13:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mind blown.

phantomfigure ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:01:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No kidding. This is always how we played it when I was a kid and the games used to take 5+ hours. Mind blown indeed.

Not_An_Ambulance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:10:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Monopoly takes 45 minutes to an hour and a half if you play without the extra money.

rageking5 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:40:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm guessing the free parking rule was implemented to lengthen the game to create more family time. If a bunch of 20 somethings are playing it, they are probaby competitive. If it's parents with kids it's a rule to just have fun with

Brudaks ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 10:06:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The point is that it's actually counterproductive - the Monopoly as such has a "fun stage" that's mostly balanced, and an "agony endgame" that's really not fun if it's long and drawn out, all the interesting parts mostly happen before that. However, it's balanced, to ensure that this endgame is fast enough - when most of the interesting action is done, you go over a tipping point where people lose money every round, and the game draws to an end. However, any rules that insert extra money generally make a tiny change to the fun stage, but shift the tipping point far later, where the game is already decided, there are no interesting decisions to make (pretty much the definition of a game) but the end is not in sight because these injections postpone the bankruptcies.

Balancing games in tricky. Quite a few small tweaks will make a small part "fun" but change the whole balance to reduce a whole lot more fun.

insaneblane ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 07:50:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also it's boring to land on a spot and nothing happens. If you're playing with a big group and waited anxiously for 7 other people to pass their turns only to land on a spot that does absolutely nothing... Feelsbadman

TerrainRepublic ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:22:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I disagree, near the end when everyone has hotels, you fucking want a square that does nothing.

PRabahy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:42:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So instead of having a couple of boring minutes for one person while they wait for their turn, you stretch out the game to the point where someone rage quits and flips the board.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:27:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Isn't that the point of the game

Jst_curious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:41:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's also Monopoly the card game which my ex-house mate introduced. We preferred playing the cards over the board game because the pace was so much quicker.

zerodb ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:33:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The shoe is too big to fail! Bring on the bailouts!

JamesRawles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:02:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Kind of like quantitative easing.

RussellGrey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:52:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah. Except in Monopoly when the thimble fails you sleep on the couch. When an entire industry fails in real life, people suffer and die.

arbivark ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:21:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

i wonder if there's a split between democrats and republicans on this one.

the other official rule most people dont follow is auctioning properties if the person who lands on it doesn't buy it.

paulfknwalsh ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:28:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's a tough one, though. The Democrat likes using the game to portray how capitalism is evil and heartless. The Republican is evil and heartless. How do you tell the difference?

Kinbaku_enthusiast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:02:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's quite a bias you got there. Learned it from your parents?

Delta3191 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:08:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

#indonesia 1000000R? $10.

Queencitybeer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:49:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like real life.

alb1234 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:52:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My friends and I used to play Monopoly for real money back in high school - gambling Monopoly. We were very strict about the rules and putting additional money into the economy, like you stated, not only makes the game take considerably longer, but it's just a dumb luck bump in wealth that is really lame and bullshit.

I'm sure there are many people thinking, "Well, every roll of the dice is 'luck'", however, there is definitely skill involved in deciding what to purchase, which properties to put houses/hotels on, etc.

We did have some local rules - quite often we would play "Once around" and that would mean you have to travel around the entire board one time before you can start making purchases.

Before anyone asks, we played the game with Monopoly money, not real cash. The real cash was thrown into a pot at the start of the game and additional funds added as the game went on. Let's say there were four of us playing. Everyone would throw in $25, so the pot is $100 to the winner, but we also had other rules like whoever completed a color grouping first got $5 immediately from the other three players...there were several different payouts.

This is a very fun way to play Monopoly. Sometimes we'd play for much higher stakes, like $100 or $200/entry and $20 or $30 instant payout to the person who completed first group, etc...I couldn't even tell you all the different variations we had played in my lifetime.

Yes. We were gambling degenerates. Sports wagering got me in trouble a few times. I've had friends smacked around by mobsters over gambling debts. Oh, do I have stories...

SnoodDood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:07:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also introduces and additional luck factor that the game wasn't designed to handle.

complicationsRx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:09:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Kind of like the lottery

jetpacksforall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:10:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just like Obamacare in the real economy. Seriously people, do you want this game of capitalism to last forever?

terriblymad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:23:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait.. You can finish?

RussellGrey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:54:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Come to think of it, I've never actually finished a game with the Free Parking house rule.

withasmackofham ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:41 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow it all makes sense now. I used to just think my slum lording friends were idiots. I didn't realize they were using a strategy that could definitely work if they weren't playing in my heavily subsidized economy. I still stand by the orange properties nonetheless.

cistersnow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:02:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

<div class="md"><p>when the point of the game is to bankrupt people.</p> </div>

And to think the baby boomers grew up this way. Economic society explained! Our economy sucks because monopoly practices have been ingrained. Mind = blown.

PM_ME_UR_DOGGOS ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:41:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Monopoly was literally designed to show how monopolies are destructive to economies.

Vigilante17 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 04:44:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or just take as many IOU's as necessary from the bank until everyone is strangled to death.

[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:35:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was little I used to have a house rule that if you ran out of money you could keep playing for five turns to see if you could earn some back. Absolutely terrible.

Arcane_Bullet ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:42:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also try the rule where if somebody lands on a properties and they don't buy it, it goes onto auction until somebody gets the space.

DaTaco ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:49:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yup, also a "normal" rule.

bromli2000 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:39:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My brother and sister and I once played a game where no one ever went bankrupt, and even last place just kept getting richer due to this rule.

DaTaco ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:49:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, that's the problem it brings the money "back" into the game which is what you don't want to happen.

kevster25 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:30:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Best story I can remember with this rule.

My brothers both had been playing a 3 day long game, they were pretty sick and tired of the game at this point. Every turn, one was almost bankrupted and the other became rich. Finally, after so long, Brother A hits Free Parking and gets enough money to survive landing on Broadway with a hotel three times over. Brother B said "Fuck this" and flipped the table, literally.

That dent in the table will forever be a reminder of The Three Day Table Flip.

_Big_Baby_Jesus_ ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:14:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Making the fines a reward for Free Parking isn't a huge deal, as it's typically under $100. Tons of people play $500 plus the fines, which makes the game last forever.

RealitySubsides ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:39:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dude no way, I've had people land on Free Parking and collect $500-1000 from just the fines. It instantly changes the dynamic of the game because all of a sudden someone's rich as hell. It prolongs it considerably though.

_Big_Baby_Jesus_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:10:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's been a few years, but the only big fine I can think of is the $200 or 10% of cash on hand, whichever's smaller. Are there other ones over $100?

RealitySubsides ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:23:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No but it accumulates over time. Especially when no one lands on it for a long period of time. I remember once, it ended up being around $2000 dollars, and one of the players who was very close to losing landed on it and ended up winning later on.

Nenor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:10:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maintenance of properties can get huge if you have hotels.

ThebocaJ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:26:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The other problems are that most families don't hold auctions when property isn't bought, and will allow side-deals out of turn to stop people from going bankrupt.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:03:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yup. I play with rules as written only and games only last for 2-3 hours tops. Faster if people aren't slow with their turns.

DaTaco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A game almost never goes over an hour (assuming you aren't play with kids and such) for me.

Do you guys auction off property if someone decides not to buy it after hitting the property? That will slow the game down a lot as well if you don't do it.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yup, we auction them off just like in the original rules.

jdquinn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:53:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When played by the printed rules, a game of Monopoly between two people should take no more than 45 minutes, including setup. And learn to keep track of how much your holdings are worth, because for the first several turns (often 2+ trips around the board), income tax is usually cheaper at 10% than paying $200. And you have to choose between 10% and $200 before you add up your holdings.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:48:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have never considered this, with a lifetime of Monopoly under my belt. I feel kind of embarrassed.

DaTaco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:31:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

See, it changes the heart of the game. Another one to try is the one where if someone hits a property and decides to not buy it, it goes up for auction. so SOMEONE has to buy it

Alarid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:45:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's actually fucking fun

NtheLegend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:15:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It also severely unbalances the game, too, making that player extremely powerful if no one's hit the Free Parking spot recently.

TeaL3af ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:21:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's still a shit game though.

DaTaco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:31:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, if you don't like these kind of board games you won't like it no matter the rules.

PMmeYourSins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:23:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For an even faster game you can sell each player 5 random properties before starting. This cuts out the most boring part of the game and actuallly makes it less random.

PokemonMaster619 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:10:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Then what's the fucking point of the Free Parking Space?

DaTaco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A place to land without having to own it, or having to pay anyone else.

ExactlyUnlikeTea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:11:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Worse game without it

DaTaco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Much better game without it you mean.

ExactlyUnlikeTea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:24 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No I don't

Judasthehammer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:48:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait... that is a house rule? Oh my God... I need to get the rule book out and re-read it...

DaTaco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yup, another one is if they don't buy the property after landing on it, you auction it off.

solidSC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not about winning, it's about becoming rich enough to flip the table and claim victory.

gymnasticRug ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:29:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In what way does it slow it down?

voltij ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 04:34:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

the game was designed with community chest and income tax "fines" and that money is supposed to come OUT of circulation.

the winner is determined by who goes broke first, so allowing the money to stay in circulation just makes the game last way longer than it's supposed to.

MusicalDingus ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:51:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

do you mean who goes broke last?

JBShy ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:02:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, first, because then they can stop playing and therefore become the true winner. Disclaimer: I actually don't hate monopoly, I just wanted to make that joke.

voltij ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:32:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sure

peachoftree ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 04:29:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

everyone gets ass loads of money

Mmffgg ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:58:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Which you then invest. The real problem is people's addiction to the idea of improving boardwalk and improving it only to blow people up

gymnasticRug ยท -22 points ยท Posted at 04:32:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How does that slow it down though. I fucking get that. Explain it.

PM_ME_NOODLES ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 04:34:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The goal is to run people bankrupt.

williamj2543 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:34:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The point of the game is to bankrupt someone. If everyone has 1000$ more thats like 2-3 hotels landed on, and that could add a bit.

Hi_Im_Saxby ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:39:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

More money means more people can afford shit. More people can afford shit means the game extends because people go bankrupt & lose their properties slower.

Liqmadique ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:49:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You understand the objective of monopoly right?

phly2theMoon ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:46:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, to win the game all but one person has to lose everything. If everyone has ass tons of money, it will take longer for everyone to bankrupt.

ruzkin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:48:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Giving people money for nothing keeps them in the game instead of letting them go bankrupt, leading to perpetual cycles where the losing players cling on for hour after hour, wishing for death.

GentleIdealist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:51:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The idea of the game is to bankrupt everyone else, so the faster money leaves circulation, the faster the game. Allowing money to reenter the economy keeps people in the game longer.

linkolphd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:53:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Point is as the money supply decreases, it becomes harder and harder for people without...monopolies (hence the name) to compete and stay in the game. Money supply eventually decreases to the point where one robber baron has all the remaining money in the game.

ImShadowbannedAMA ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:57:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Because it takes longer for people to go bankrupt. It can "bail out" poor players.

jtb3566 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:59:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The the game ends when all but one go bankrupt. Free money makes it take longer to go bankrupt.

Askesis1017 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:10:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

More money in play = takes longer to go bankrupt

FlamingNipplesOfFire ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:15:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

You lose when you have no money and you owe somebody money. If chance forces you to lose money then more money isn't recirculated into the game (as the game goes on the chance of collecting $200 drops as well as decreases in value). If money isn't recirculated into the game each individual dollar holds a higher value and you incur a larger risk of losing the game with each dollar you invest.

The game was made as a simplified way to explain how an unregulated market with limited controls inevitably results in a monopoly. This is to say the game maker believed rich use prisons as tax havens when they have income and the poor are punished because they can't be the early investors.

dietTwinkies ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:55:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Have you ever played Monopoly? Do you know how the game ends? Are you intellectually incapable of understanding how distributing extra money to the players delays the end of the game? Use your fucking brain, man. Stop asking others to think for you.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:07:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm just here to call you a nincompoop

relevant84 ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 04:41:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It doesn't so much slow the game down as it delays the final goal of the game, extending the amount of time it takes to play the game.

FidgetArtist ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:49:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

...I don't know about you, but to me that sounds an awful lot like "slowing the game down."

Brokenthrowaway247 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:52:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is literally the definition of "slowing the game down"

puppet_up ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:32:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Because people who are about to go bankrupt can land on Free Parking and all of a sudden acquire $1000+ and unmortgage some of their properties and put houses and/or hotels on them. Had that rule not been applied to the game, they would go bankrupt on their next roll when they land on my Orange or Red hotels.

gymnasticRug ยท -14 points ยท Posted at 04:35:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nah, that's just a little bit of luck. Makes the game fun. My family has always been patient with monopoly though, I guess, most of our games take two nights, can't imagine it taking any less time. A one hour game of monopoly sounds extremely boring. No investment at all.

ronton ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:44:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

K but you were arguing that it didn't make it longer, then they said "yes it does" and you said "k but I like it long".

They're saying that for people who claim monopoly is too long, it's better to play with the correct rules.

gymnasticRug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:49:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wasn't arguing "it doesn't make it longer" I was asking "how"

THANE_OF_ANN_ARBOR ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:55:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hate your family and all of the moral corruption that it stands for.

gymnasticRug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:48:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Love you too

Tramd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:52:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good one, this is a joke right?

FlamingNipplesOfFire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

4 u

[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:33:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It injects money at random onto the board, prolonging the game. The less money on the table, the sooner the game is over as players drop faster and advantages snowball quicker.

Providing random cash influxes though Free Parking can bail out a player who, by all rights, should be collapsed and keep them (and their assets) in the game a lot longer.

GotMyOrangeCrush ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:46:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In high school we played monopoly for a grade as part of an econ class. What started to happen was kids started cheating by bringing cash from their home games to school. It got to be a lesson about inflation as it was up to like $80,000 in cash.

True_Stock_Canadian ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:41:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

... What exactly was the lesson in inflation? Did hotels suddenly start becoming more expensive?

GotMyOrangeCrush ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:47:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The theory most discussed for the relationship between prices and the money supply is called the quantity theory of money. The quantity theory proposes that the exchange value of money is determined like any other good, with supply and demand. The basic equation for the quantity theory, developed by American economist Irving Fisher, is expressed as: (total money supply) x (velocity of money) = (average price level) x (volume of economic transactions)

Some variants of the quantity theory propose that inflation and deflation occur proportionately to increases or decreases in the supply of money. Empirical evidence has not demonstrated this, and most economists do not hold this view.

FanOrWhatever ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:33:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't think the point of a family game of monopoly is ending it as quickly as possible. Monopoly was the game parents drug out to get the family sitting in one place and interacting for an extended period of time.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:15:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The point of the game is to brankrupt other people.... So giving away free money helps avoid that.

CWSwapigans ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:14:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I mean... just think about it.

Hint: what causes the game to end?

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:58:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Typically, one person takes a sharp lead in Monopoly purely because they get lucky with the roles. Things like Free Parking money tend to result in a second person taking a marked lead over the others (often because this money allows them to buy houses they otherwise couldn't afford), resulting in a slow back and forth between the two leaders rather than one leader stomping the rest with his 'monopoly' on the housing market.

Monopoly is a shit game anyway. 90% of the game is luck of the dice, and the other 10% is about how much of a cunt you can be to others when 'trading' or 'selling' property

mmarkklar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:11:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The whole point of Monopoly was to demonstrate to children the danger of letting a few own all the land. It's very true to life when you play it the right way. In real life, 90% of success is luck.

FlamingNipplesOfFire ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:23:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The game is meant to inevitably be a back and forth between a few players. You trade mutually advantageous properties based on the expected value of your roles. You trade one of your properties so a guy can get a monopoly, but also so you can. This means it's between you and the guy you traded with as opposed to 1v1v1v1, making it a 1v1 v people without monopolies.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:26:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This means it's between you and the guy you traded with as opposed to 1v1v1v1, making it a 1v1 v people without monopolies.

It's almost like you read my post, agreed with it, then made a post saying you disagree with my post with supporting evidence that I already made.

Are you fucking dense?

FlamingNipplesOfFire ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:31:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Man, you gotta ease up, mello. Get verticle instead of horizontal, feel me?

You believe the natural tendency is for one person to get a monopoly and stamp it out and the ony case for a second person to be a leader is with free parking, but that's where I disagree. Even without free parking it's still that case. Not to mention, in aggregate of all people talking about monopoly, what you refer to in trades people typically mean "sell you slums for 2k" which isn't mutually advantageous.

Sgtpepper13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I love long games, my new strategy is to get enough properties to break even indefinitely and then play people until they give up. I once played 7pm to 7am until I finally won.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:08:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

here's how to win at Monopoly in a much shorter timeframe:

1) gather up the board, all the money, and all the pieces

2) dump them in the trash

3) spend your time doing anything else in the world other than playing Monopoly. You just won!

edit: I guess you can keep the money if you want. it's all kinds of different fun colors. ooh and the little metal racecar! just don't play Monopoly

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:27:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm all about family time, but don't give me no damn monopoly. we play cards, baby

SGrumpy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bah, Humbug ring any bells?

peepeeparty9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It happens like 3 times max how much could it possibly slow the game down?

DaTaco ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:48:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It happens way way more then 3 times, and it also can come at times when it's crucial to have spending (to upgrade to hotels).

It seriously slows down the game a lot.

crimsontideftw24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What? It's like a 2 second thing. You land on Free Parking and you pick up the money from the middle of the board. Done and dusted. Unless I'm missing something?

DaTaco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not the action of doing it that slows the game down. It's all of the money that should go to the bank, and instead goes back to players.

crimsontideftw24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:08:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ohhhhhhh gotcha. I'm an idiot.

DaTaco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wasn't going to say it :) but you did.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:42:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's still the same shitty game, it just doesn't take as long

DaTaco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It changes the game play a good bit, but if you don't like board games, you won't like it.

theycallmecarl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:51:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like somebody's got a case of the Mondays.

besisay ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 04:34:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'll try it next time I wanna cut off 15 seconds from a 4 hour fucking game

Flussiges ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:51:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

From my experience (I've played a lot of Monopoly), a properly played game with all the official rules lasts around 1 to 1.5 hours. It's because people don't do auctions, follow mortgage rules, and let people off the hook (etc etc) that the game takes forever.

account_1100011 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:42:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

doing that basically ruins the game because there is a chance it can get to a point where no one can win

JagerNinja ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:08:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You've probably seen a billion replies, but that simply makes the game take forever. The whole purpose of those fines and fees is to take money out of the game to shorten the game. Monopoly isn't supposed to be a fair game... It's supposed to be a lesson in how capitalism favors the lucky rather than the hard-working.

Prime89 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:27:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's what we did as well...I really need to read the rule book

buttonbookworm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:58:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My siblings and I did this too! The game never took too long with this because we never played to the end. We just counted our money when we got bored after an hour or two and whoever had the most won. We also had a rule that you couldn't buy property the first cycle around the board, and we all had specific properties that we always like to buy whenever we played so we always kinda left those properties to that person. I don't think we ever built hotels on any properties either. We didn't play Monopoly to learn about capitalism, we played to be entertained for the short length of our attention span when we were under 10yrs old.

pointio ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:11:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, 100% unofficial.

Misty_Rose98 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:29:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Actually that's exactly what I used to do with my cousins when we played xD Nowadays whenever I play down here and don't get anything on free parking I'm always upset haha

garesnap ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:34:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It actually slows the game way down. Seriously try it without that modification and it's a totally different game.

Misty_Rose98 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

True, if you get money when you most need it you'll be saved from bankruptcy for awhile.

Stoompunk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:46:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, which version of the rules do you enjoy more?

Misty_Rose98 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe the version where you get free money, it can really save you when you're in a pickle xD

Stoompunk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Then play it like that. In the end it's about having fun. I'd love to play the game with you with those rules if you'd ask.

Ironmunger2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same but it included spaces like luxury tax and jail fees

ThompsonBoy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In our house it was all the fine money PLUS a $500 seed added whenever it was emptied.

TheZigerionScammer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:59:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hope you enjoyed your 12 hour games.

ThompsonBoy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It seemed normal then. But I refuse to play the game now, under any rule set.

Loud impassioned arguments about the existence or non-existence of words had the same effect on Scrabble. Never again.

Catleesi87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes! Us too! It all went in a kitty in the center of the board.

coredumperror ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This rule is why my family no longer plays Monopoly. It used to be the absolute go-to game for family reunions, and we have a LARGE extended family, so it was always an 8-player game with several extra people either watching or playing as a pair. The thing is that an 8-player game with that free parking rule lasts for 6 HOURS.

handjobbanana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:36:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This.... isnt the rule? I've been lied to!

AxeellYoung ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:11:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I inherited the monopoly set from my parents that was made in the 70s. There for we had none of these free parking and community chests. Just a board with plots for sale, sticks and dice.

I need to buy a monopoly set!

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:48:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That was our rule.

kanated ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:17:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah that's how most people I've met play. It's bullshit. Game takes forever and you can win it off a single lucky dice roll.

Beorn_man ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:21:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

my family was the same

YoungFlyMista ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:32:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mine too

TheTrackPadUser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:02:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's what we did...

BCSteve ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:27:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That one's the worst of the "home rules". The fines and chance cards remove money from circulation... With that rule all the money stays circulating, so no one ever goes bankrupt, and the game drags on FOREEEEVERRRRR.

shaiw23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:35:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here, my sister would land twice and we all rage quit

badgarok725 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:35:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Stupid, all the different house rules people have slow it down. If people just played by the rules and followed them all then the game moves faster

imminent_riot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here, I thought that was an official rule.

Galax3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's how I play it. Fines and community chest funds go in the middle and whoever lands on Free Parking gets that money.

crackalac ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:03:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah we always played the same way. I have a feeling that is a pretty popular rule modification to help speed up the game.

DaTaco ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 04:21:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It actually slows the game way down. Seriously try it without that modification and it's a totally different game.

crackalac ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 04:54:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No one gets rich fast enough to buy everything without it.

kaimason1 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:07:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're supposed to auction off properties you land on and don't buy. Probably the main source of games taking forever, no one seems to know that rule.

crackalac ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:16:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We knew of that rule but never played that one either.

voltij ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:35:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

how would keeping more money in circulation speed up the game? the winner is determined by who goes broke

crackalac ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

More properties, more hotels, more broke.

voltij ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:43:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In a game where FREE PARKING is the money taken via tax/fees, the players never are putting money from their stockpiles into the bank. Buying property or houses doesn't count because you can sell houses and mortgage or trade properties to get your money back.

Since every round you are adding money ($200 passing GO, various chance/chest cards) and you are never taking money out of circulation, the game actually could go on forever in many instances, just trading back and forth the same money.

The game is supposed to put hard financial stress on you, and early.

crackalac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:04:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah which is usually caused when you land on a hotel that costs 2000 dollars. This gets you there much quicker. Plus this gets all the properties bought up faster (we didn't play the auction rules either)

Doesnt_Draw_Anything ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:17:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know what your thought process is, but you are wrong. Just know that.

crackalac ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 05:21:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nah

Doesnt_Draw_Anything ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:23:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

any time you add money to the game it slows it down.

crackalac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:01:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well we also didn't play by the auction off properties you don't buy rule either. It definitely speeds it up.

Shpiiiizza ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:30:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hmm, my family had the same rule. Dad?!

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:32:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

CORRECT!

ForgottenJoke ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:33:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This was our rule as well.

williamj2543 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:34:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Unnoficial. Thats the shit version. Usually when we played with smaller kids it was 50$ just for more fun, but the OFFICIAL rules are 0$ on that space

ScarlettGrotesque ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:39:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's the same in my household! The damn game never ends.

MasteringTheFlames ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:40:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, that's how i always played it. Money from the cards amd the income tax space was piled in the middle of the board. You land on free parking, you get the money

Draxifiel ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:45:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's actually an official ruling in the game. Similar to "fast pace" monopoly has made it an option within every game based on user preference (monopoly on the ps4 has this setting so it has to be true)

Puttanesca621 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:37:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The best free parking rule is when someone lands on free parking: STOP PLAYING MONOPOLY and try one of the thousands of better boards out there..

Try it, it really improves the game.

Roosterrr ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:50:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's the best way

jadesaddiction ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:14:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We do the same. Put all the money from taxes and fines in the middle, as well as your money you pay to get out of jail.

ThanatosSkepsi ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's actually the real rule

Doesnt_Draw_Anything ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No it isn't.

cragglerock93 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:51:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ah, okay. It's been years and years since I've played.

amiintoodeep ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:37:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My rule is the same, and yes, that's unofficial. But I also play with "no instant liquidations" - meaning that if you have $2 and have to pay a $10 fine you're eliminated, even if you have thousands of dollars of property. Additionally you can't mortgage property at the drop of a hat to purchase new property, pay rent, etc. You can mortgage your property at any time to pump your cash reserves, but it has to be done in ADVANCE of need.

Basically the idea is to add a degree of realism and strategic depth - it takes time to move and allocate funds IRL after all. I also play with the rule that any player can only make a single trade on their turn, as the last action of their turn, so as to keep the game moving.

TheWhistler1967 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:11:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good lord. Of all the stupid Monopoly rules people play with, you get the gold medal.

Add realism? What are you talking about. In real life if you have crippling debt, then mortgaging your house is an actual thing that real people have to do. You realise with debts, you don't have to pay them the second you open the envelope yeah?

Or do you think in real life people get shot in the head because they can't pay a $1000 debt despite owning a million dollar house?

Right.

OneGoodRib ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:38:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know who came up with the idea that free parking = winning the lottery. It's just an empty space that nothing happens on, and it's like "all right, an empty parking space!" Like in real life. You don't win $1400 every time you find a space for free 90 minute parking in real life.

DootMasterFlex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You mean in real life free parking spots don't mean you get paid to be there? My cars been parked in the same spot for 10 years now I thought I was gonna be rich :(

lauckness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:14:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I watch Silicon Valley, free money is totally real

redditsoaddicting ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:14:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Takes time to find parking. Time = money. Free money.

heyimcarlk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah but it comes from monopoly junior rules where that is what happens with the money

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's called make the game that will inevitably end before someone wins, faster.

Derwos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not free, you still have to park there.

Fire2box ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:43:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

but there's only one car in the game asshole. explain that.

/s

Butthole__Pleasures ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:36:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Seriously. Those spots are ALWAYS full.

Sykes83 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:46:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

House rules are the primary reason that Monopoly games tend to go on for an eternity. The relative scarcity of money is what forces things along--a proper Monopoly game should generally last no longer than about an hour.

DameNisplay ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:13:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe it should be "free money" if you're not the car? Because no other piece can adequately make use of the free parking offer.

MyUncreativeName ยท 899 points ยท Posted at 01:36:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It could be even worse. My family rule is that all of the money from chance and community chest cards goes to free parking. It's a game changer when someone lands there after no one else has for a while.

constantvariables ยท 254 points ยท Posted at 02:23:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We play with any money that normally goes to the bank, aside from buying and building on properties, goes in the middle. Luxury tax, Chance deductions, jail fees, etc. I love it because it can be a total game changer and the game is already partially based on luck. Plus it makes use of that lazy ass nothing of a space.

RedWarrior0 ยท 304 points ยท Posted at 03:16:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Right, that's why most people do it, not realizing that the game already takes too long, and by not removing money from the system, you only drag it out longer.

RussellGrey ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 04:59:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One of the rules people overlook is the auction rule. When you land on a space that is not owned you either buy it or auction it to the highest bidder. A lot of people play it where you have a choice to buy or just pass play. That makes the game take way longer as well.

Monopoly at its core is a negotiation and bidding game. This adds a good amount of strategy to an otherwise luck-based game.

gsfgf ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:28:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yea. Monopoly is designed to take money out of the game, but we all keep putting money into it.

Tidorith ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:26:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Actually in Monopoly, the total some of money in the game will increase over time. It only disappears at the start because people are buying property and houses. Once that's finished, if the game is close enough to even and no one gets unlucky, money will start to accumulate. The longer the game goes, the longer yet the game still likely has before it will finish.

The problem with the "free parking rule" is that it changes the chance of this happening from about one in a hundred to about one in two games.

constantvariables ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 03:19:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Which I'm fine with. I love Monopoly.

ArmaSwiss ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 04:04:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Found the masochist

KrivenRaven ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:10:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Found another one.

It's me. I love Monopoly and play by these same rules.

ArmaSwiss ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:28:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So. Tonight. Paddles? Little blood play? Some rope play? Nah. Monopoly

KrivenRaven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, baby, do not pass Go!

SycoJack ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:40:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Me three. I love insanely long games. Especially when played against an equal.

Any RTS match that lasts less than thirty minutes is a write off. In C&C Generals, I have maps where it takes 10 minutes or more just to get from one side to the other. The same for Sins of a Solar Empire.

Sins is a little different though, as most of my matches only end once the game becomes to unstable to continue.

RussellGrey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:47:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Twilight Imperium is the game for you.

constantvariables ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:08:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sometimes ;)

ArmaSwiss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:18:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Hey, want to come over later for some heavy S&M?"

"sure!"

Few hours later

"wait. Where's the gimp suit. The whip. The chains. The paddles. Why is there only this Monopoly box.....

constantvariables ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mistress says do not pass Go, do not collect 200 dollars.

hrrrrngh

pjcrusader ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:53:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My group of friends all love monopoly as well but we play strictly by the rules. The game is really fast if you auction off properties that don't get bought when landed on.

77431 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 04:46:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like you'd love it less if you played by the rules.

constantvariables ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:05:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sure I would.

emperorchiao ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:10:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We play like u/constantvariables does, but you have to auction every property that's landed on. That way all the property gets bought up quick and if you get the Free Parking economic stimulus, you can just build extra houses and hotels, upping rent and end the game quicker.

constantvariables ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:04:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Isn't the auction part of the official rules?

emperorchiao ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:12:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, but most people probably skip it. Growing up, I knew you could auction but didn't know the rules specified it.

constantvariables ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:18:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well that explains why a lot of people think the game drags. I couldn't imagine the free properties simply being bypassed because the person who landed on it didn't buy it.

vgambit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:45:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

the game already takes too long

It's about an hour if you follow the standard rules.

ImGonnaKickTomorrow ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:42:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In a correctly played game of Monopoly, that is anything but "a lazy ass nothing space." It is a HUGE money saver, if by landing there you manage to avoid having to pay rent on the built-up properties surrounding it. By making it a free money spot, you remove any semblance of skill or strategy in the game. Time to take the training wheels off!

constantvariables ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:24:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah you avoid paying rent because it's literally a nothing space. And no, playing like that doesn't mean there's no skill or strategy involved. You get free money in other ways, including going around the board. Weird thing to claim.

combuchan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:40:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, but you can't really get good at a game that's based on sheer chance. The best games are ones that require one to take all possible odds into their overall strategy.

AmadeusMop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:01:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Blackjack?

combuchan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:52:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Catan. :D

At least, it's my all-time favorite.

khalfrodo34 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

partially

The crux of the game is literally about getting good rolls to land on property you want or already own.

yolibobchris ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And it also ruins the entire game smh.

constantvariables ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:39:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not if you prefer to play that way, which we do.

SailedBasilisk ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:02:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What? No, you're not allowed to have different preferences than the rest of us.

Skunk_Giant ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:58:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Right? TIL Reddit fucking HATES that rule. Like, holy shit, the amount of passion in this thread is shocking.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:14:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Skunk_Giant ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:41:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Call it what you want. If all the players agree on a rule, and they all enjoy the game more because of said rule, who gives a shit?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Skunk_Giant ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:20:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, sure, but that's not what was initially discussed. The dude just said he enjoyed playing that way, and people started acting like he had just taken a shit on the Parker Brothers' graves. The fact that you're so passionate about how terrible this variation is astounds me.

yolibobchris ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 03:40:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And it ruins the whole game smh.

constantvariables ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:41:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you slow?

yolibobchris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:04 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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khalfrodo34 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:38:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We play that way. I love that rule.

monjoe ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:24:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is the correct way. I will fight you.

MyUncreativeName ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:37:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wouldn't be my first fight over monopoly. Let's do this.

Ghostronic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's the rule my family had. It has taken me 20 years but I have finally broken it back down to just $500, which ends up not being nearly as big of a game changer.

ajax6677 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We do that too!

toadofsteel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I used to love that rule as a kid. I still kinda do. But then again, I'm the kind of guy who plays Reno decks in Hearthstone...

KungFuPuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:42:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And makes the game last WAYYYYY longer.

redeyeddragon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:28:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We do the same thing. I like it better that way.

Soccham ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought that this was just a rule... Not an added one...

iamtoastshayna69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:50:40 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My cat-opoly game (Cat based monopoly game) actually has a rule on the rulecard that says to do this. It's legitimately part of my game. I have a few versions of monopoly but that is the only version that does that. On another note, I've been asking this for years but, how the fuck do you mortgage a cat?

KingGumboot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We used to play it that way too. It can be worse, but having a guaranteed $500 every time is a lot worse if it gets landed on fairly often

Detego_Nunc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's how I play as well! It gets very intense as someone goes by that area of the board.

PM_WHITEGIRLS_nTHONG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yo that's what my family does. I like it

1mexicanamerican1 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:14:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's how my family played. It never changed the outcome because the banker always wins.:-)

gymnasticRug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just like in real life...

1mexicanamerican1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yup

zoestopper ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:44:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is how I play!

CoutureLaLa ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:44:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep! I feel like this was actually in the rules from older games before they figured out that NO ONE WINS when you make the game drag on for 77 hours.

killersoda ยท 127 points ยท Posted at 01:19:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Whenever you have to pay something like income tax or luxury tax you put it in the middle which means free parking can completely change the game, plus a free $500 on top.

ItszBrian ยท 225 points ยท Posted at 02:10:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's how a game lasts forever

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:51:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's just the taxes, where the hell does this extra $500 come from?

onewithinternet ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:05:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We always threw a hundred in just so it wasn't empty if someone landed on it immediately after it was just claimed. $500 sounds a little steep though.

SurprisedPotato ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:37:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why not just empty the bank into people's pockets, then usr the money to buy spare pieces in other boardgames like chess or rugby?

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:23:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family has these rules and we had a game go on for 3 days straight (not counting the time we were asleep)

It was hell and we didnt play again for a few years

Vigilante17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You obviously don't play with matches and lighter fluid.

MoshPotato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's how the game should be played.

My mom said it wasn't over until I had no money and all my property had been mortgaged.

TheZigerionScammer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:02:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, but that takes forever when you keep injecting money into the game's economy.

DrQuint ยท 205 points ยท Posted at 02:17:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's precisely the "Horrible rule" that ruins most monopoly households and makes it drag out to the hyper late game. Also causes problems with not enough monopoly money for every player.

Money never goes in the middle.

Crazyalbo ยท 175 points ยท Posted at 02:22:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's a rule for weaklings and faux capitalists who merely believe they understand the game of monopoly. A true capitalist knows that you gotta play the game dirty, rotten, and ruthless to beat the others. There are no crutches, and any offered by others players are surely a ploy to get your guard down.

Tldr: The money in the middle rule is for socialists who think that redistributing wealth works fairly.

/s with a hint of non /s

Jkay064 ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 03:26:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The socialist activist who invented Monopoly intended for the game to teach everyone who played, that capitalism makes you a greedy asshole. That's the whole point.

Ender_Keys ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:34:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It was to let people feel rich during the great depression

Jkay064 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you read the Wikipedia entry for the game, you'll see I'm correct. An American socialist wanted to demonstrate the evils of being a landlord. It's not like the origin is veiled in the sands of time.

Ender_Keys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The point you initially made was that the game was to show the evils of capitalism the "socialist" Henry George wanted to suggest that a tax on land and resource use is better than a tax on labour. If anything the game shows the negatives of laissez-faire capitalism. The current version was produced with much success during the depression because people could pretend for a time that they had money

Jkay064 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:56 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lizzie Magie invented and patented the game in 1905. It was published by a professional, commercial games house in New York City. It was so popular that people would copy all the pieces and board by hand, to play with their own neighbors and families. In 1935, Parker Brothers unwittingly bought the publishing rights to the game from a gentleman who had dishonestly convinced them it was his intellectual property.

After Ms Magie learned of this, she approached Parker Brothers, made her case, with art and patents in hand, and they acknowledged her as the true author and bought out her patent rights for $500.

The January 2015 issue of Smithsonian magazine has a nice article on this event.

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:26:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you're not stealing from the bank, you're not playing to win.

Frommerman ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:12:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Found the Ayn Rand /s

hbk1966 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:25:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A good secret is early game just pay the fine to get out of jail. But late game you want to spend as much time in jail as possible. You get to collect money without having to risk landing on any properties. So late game I usually end up sale Get out jail free cards to people for a little extra cash.

POGtastic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The real drag comes from not auctioning off properties. The influx of money does make the game go longer, but it becomes very apparent what's going to happen once Monopolies happen and houses start getting built. Another $1000 isn't going to do shit when you only have the sky-blue properties and your opponents have hotels on everything else.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:52:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Taxes and fees go in the middle. Not sure what all this free $500 shit is about

chumjumper ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:16:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You have no idea how much this rule contributes to the game becoming miserable.

SAugsburger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:43:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've heard of $50 for free parking, but I have never heard of $500. That is a pretty big game changer because you only get $200 for pass go.

killersoda ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:14:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We also did if you land on Go, you get $400.

theMMaI ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:41:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In the original game the highest value note is 50k with the smallest bring 100.

Dyvius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I knew this was a house rule but my family always played that way. Parents, grandparents, extended cousins, etc. all played with the tax/chance fines going to the middle for a free parking pick up.

Hell I've even had friends who just automatically played this way.

yolibobchris ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's how you make a game take fucking 5 hours until someone gets frustrated because the person who suggested the rule lands on free parking for the first time the whole fucking game and everyone else decides to get pissy and then they say that monopoly is a shit game. No, you're just a fucking horrible person.

koryface ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:53:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought said "weak and baron" and I was like, woah, ease up there pal.

brain-in-the-jar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:04:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Monopoly is a shitty game. It's driven primarily by how lucky you are landing on available properties, then on your own properties. Wealth and lack thereof compound quickly. Once a player starts winning there's no real way for them to lose, but it still takes an hour or more to grind everyone else into dust.

Any rule that gives money to players that aren't actively winning just makes the Godawful grind last longer. Free Parking, community chest, chance, loans, anything.

TheBestBigAl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:22:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like you just described real life.

rnelsonee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:47:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's worth noting that Monopoly was designed to teach exactly that. The creator of the first version was an anti-capitalist who wanted to show how rigged the system was.

UltimateDracoMeteor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:51:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I play with that rule too. I just feel like it's nice to put a twist on things when somebody's hanging on by a thread, even though it's not official.

10speedbike ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We would put all fines into the center of the board, all that was yours if you landed on Free Parking.

dart22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

People complain that Monopoly takes way too long, but then they do shit like give away money and don't do auctions. Monopoly is a terrible game, but theoretically it should be terrible and quick.

willyolio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:21:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

wtf our house rule was only $100

naptownhayday ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My house always played a rule where penalty money (chance cards and luxury tax etc) went to the middle of the board and if you landed in free parking you got it all.

slothsandmoresloths ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've always played that any property or utility taxes players had to pay didn't go to the bank, but in the middle of the board for whoever landed on free parking.. That's not how the game should actually be played?!

matlockatwar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:15:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In the rules, it states all money goes into the bank.. Simple as that. Crack open the rule book. People have doing a form of free parking money for decades because we cant accept a space just doing nothing, i guess.

RhitaGawr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents taught me that landing on free parking was a jackpot.

Imagine the embarrassment I endured when playing with others for the first time.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My wife refuses to play with me because I follow the rules. The only exception is deals between players. I will loan shark the fuck out of you and murder your family for my money.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So what's the real rule regarding this?

The way I was raised, all the money from taxes/fees/anything that didn't go to another player went in the middle of the board rather than the bank, and whoever landed on "Free Parking" got all that money. The way my wife plays it is that all of that money goes to the bank and whoever lands on free parking gets $200 from the bank.

matlockatwar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:16:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In the rules, it states all money goes into the bank.. Simple as that. Look up the monopoly rules for the exact wording.

Lostsonofpluto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:38:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family's rule on free parking is that all payments "to the bank" go into the middle until someone lands there. Takes way too fucking long

LawlessCoffeh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The ruleset I grew up with put the "expenses" like luxury tax in the center to be claimed by free parking

WengFu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You married a 'Free Parking' heathen? My god man.

tumblrmustbedown ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We played with 1 of every bill on the free parking, even worse than your wife.

Weep2D2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shit, read that as weak and barren and was like damn son, that escalated quickly.

Nicekicksbro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What thats crazy!

boomerangarrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My household rule has always been that all the taxes/charges/etc that normally would go to the bank (not including property sales) go into free parking. Whoever lands there gets the pot, and then the cycle starts again.

We also play "if you don't buy it when you land on it, someone else can," which has led to some brutal games.

wildbluyawnder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:49:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We used the free parking spot to win the jackpot. That's all the money that went into paying those taxes and crap. It's kind of like Vegas and that's real.

nobodytoyou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I really wanna know who started this trend. My friends have been pulling that rule on me for at least 10 years now. Somehow this one friend of mine magically lands on free parking repeatedly every time. I've never seen a bank run out of 500s prior to this seeing this rule

Raptor169 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:52:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My friends created an even more broken rule where you'd get 500 and be able to upgrade any of your locations

wingsfan64 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Even worse, my family puts the taxes/fees etc in there in addition to one of each value bill, which gets restocked each time someone lands on it. My sister landed on it 8 times in one game and I lost even though she had garbage properties (light blue).

nedflandersuncle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In my family, all the income tax and other fines went to the person who landed on free parking.

BTW did anyone actually do the auctioning off of properties?

Iamdanno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We always played that payments made due to cards drawn were put in a pot in the middle of the board. Landing on free parking was hitting the lottery and collecting the money from the middle. Of course, we also kicked it up a notch by playing double monopoly by using two boards in a figure 8 pattern. It took a long time to finish a game.

BrutalWarPig ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I did this too. Any money fined went in the pot too

spiritcrusher77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Whenever I played Monopoly, the person who landed on free parking got all of the tax money, and also the money taken for fines and stuff.

CliffB707 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you add money from the bank it changes the economy.

bking ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christ, I read that as "weak and barren". Thought it was a little bit harsh.

jerslan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So I used to play with the rule that taxes and fines got paid to the middle of the board, and then collected by whoever landed on Free Parking (and then the bank would put in a 50 to start off the next round).

Askesis1017 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I never knew about property auctions until I played online.

fluffenstein ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family always put the luxury tax and bail money in the middle of the board and whoever got landed on free parking got that

regionalphilbin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:14:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I could go either way. It is a good way to make the game go faster.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I like the version where you take all the money in the middle when you land on free parking. You know, the money people casually toss in the middle of the board when buying something.

dominickster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We played where you got $100 the first time, $200 the next and so on

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:26:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

See the way my family played we would take any money that was supposed to be paid to the bank (taxes, unmortgage, etc) we would instead place in the middle and whoever lands on free parking collects it. Total game changer when you can go from last to first in terms of wealth.

SycoJack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I grew up with those rules, I'll still trounce you though.

Well I don't know, I've never played you. But I'm pretty good and have won every game I've played with friends and family. Both with and without those rules.

Edit: well not those rules exactly. My household rules were the same as junior monopoly. So things like get out of jail bribes, and the different fees for shit went in the middle. Other people I knew played with those $500 rules though.

the_itchy_melon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

fucking lost it at "weak land baron".

awdsrock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We just put all the tax money in the middle and whoever lands on it gets it all, including the 500 you put down first

queenweasley ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I played where all the fines went in the middle and if you landed on free Parking you got the whole pile.

jonbelanger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not in the official rules, not at all. Auction off properties that you land on but don't by IS in the official rules, however. Took me 37 years to figured that out.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:03:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Irony considering the creator for the foundation of Monopoly, Elizabeth Maggie, and owner of the original patent that Hasbro would later buy for $500 to produce Monopoly developed her game as a critique of unscrupulous business practices.

DrippyWaffler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:06:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The way we played was that every time you landed on a tax space or picked up a card that made you lose money or whatever - anything where you lost money that didn't go to another player - it would go onto the middle of the board. If you landed on free parking it was yours.

friedkeenan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:06:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I learned that all fees you have to pay that don't go towards a house goes into free parking, and then when you land on it, you get all the money

mr_lemonpie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:07:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or doubling go money when you land in go...

wlee1987 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:10:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

All the fines go towards the free parking spot

Jareh-Ashur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The fuck? Free parking gives you the money in the middle of the board which is made up of taxes, fines and jail fees. Or at least dats how we played it.

n240sx94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family sorta plays the same way. If you get luxury tax or any community chest or chance circumstances that make you pay money, you put that money in the middle. Whoever gets free parking takes it all.

Benjirich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:48:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I still don't know why my friends all say that every money that is supposed to go to the bank from red/blue cards goes to free parking. And when someone lands on free parking he gets it.

When playing with multiple experienced players and one gets the wrong card (renovation, yay) he is supposed to put more than 2000$ there for someone to just take it?

torkel-flatberg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:55:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I read that as "weak land bacon" which, now that I think of it, is a pretty cool insult

StockmanBaxter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:57:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family would put any money that was payed to the bank for penalties and shit on cards to the middle of the board. On top of $500. Sometimes it would get up as high as 3K.

andtheZero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We used to play that all money spent on anything went to free parking, so basically whoever landed on free parking the most eventually won the game

mhall812 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:07:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought community chest money went in the center and when you landed on free parking you got the pot.

Abnmlguru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:41:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Monopoly is a terrible game. Seriously. It's a crying shame that it's like the only board game that's probably in every home.

There are so many better board games out there now days.

IntiemePiraat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:47:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We used to play it that when you had to pay money from chance cards or taxes, it would go in the middle and if you landed on free parking, you'd get that money. Horrible...

PrEPnewb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:16:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

$500 dollars

"five hundred dollars dollars"

Jimmers1231 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:23:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We always put the money from the luxury tax, community chest, and chance cards in there. Also, if we were down to only a few properties unowned, we'd throw those in there too.

We had no idea how long that would drag out a game.

I love the new "speed die" in the version I have now. It really does hurry up the game.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:25:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I grew up, every time you passed go you had to put 10$ on free parking and who ever landed on it got all the money

NoPlayTime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:34:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There are a few "house" rules noted in some of the instructions. The free parking one is that all tax payments (and maybe another couple of thing) go under free parking and whomever lands on it gets what's there..

The houses only ever draw out a game, they don't make the game anymore fun. And it's only fun for about the first 20 minutes anyways.

rydan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:58:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Did you also inform her that if you don't buy the property it must go up for auction? I have a hunch you didn't.

guto8797 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:08:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The version I learned was that any spent money, from fines or buildings would go the middle of the board, and you would get all of it if you landed on the parking.

The bank was the one going bankrupt usually

Auspants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:23:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I told her that her parents did her no favors coddling her growing up and now she is a weak land baron.

Fuck that, all the fine money goes in free parking and if you roll it then you get it all.

That shit turned me into a MAN, none of this "Monopoly games that finish" bullshit... 14 hours of haggling, drinking, swearing and underhanded deals when people are in the bathroom, capped off by "FUCK YOU GUYS" from at least one player and then nobody talking to each other for a week.

THAT is how you play Monopoly.

Dr_ChimRichalds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:30:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is probably the biggest point of contention in our household. We're about to have a kid. I worry she's going to win him over with the free money that exists nowhere in the rule book.

I'm going to do my best to teach him that we need rules. If we didn't have rules, we'd all be naked in trees flinging our crap at each other.

Radius86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:32:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In what monopolistic world do people pay YOU to park somewhere...

Posingaspretty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:46:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When you land on free parking you get the money that has accumulated from taxes and stuff

Heatherkakes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:33:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family, all money paid for fines, fees, to buy property or houses, everything went into the center of the board, and when somebody landed on free parking, they got the jackpot.

PickThymes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:40:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's also a limited amount of hotels and houses you can buy (my family used spare dice as hotels and pieces as houses, etc). Free parking becomes a lifesaver at end game, and for some reason my family would trade property at exorbant rates only.

koyima ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:43:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This was like a comment Dwight would make (the last sentence)

-Abbytjie- ยท 393 points ยท Posted at 23:49:30 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's long and boring because you MAKE it that way!

Manleather ยท 723 points ยท Posted at 01:06:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nah, I hold people accountable to the rules, everybody ends up hating it as God intended, then we all move onto quality boarding like Ticket to Ride, Pandemic, and maybe Catan if we feel like fighting again.

boxsterguy ยท 601 points ยท Posted at 01:29:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's okay. The game was designed to make you hate it, as a screed against capitalism. If you play it right and hate it, then you're doing it right. If you play it right and love it (as I do), there's probably something wrong with you. But then my natural strategy in gaming is resource starvation, so Monopoly fits perfectly with that (buy all the houses, so nobody can get hotels)

emptysee ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 01:40:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My friend threw a fit and refused to ever play it with me again when I wouldn't trade some good properties for her mediocre ones. That's not how you win, you fool!

boxsterguy ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 01:50:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There are no "really good" properties in Monopoly if you play it right. There are only properties that you've monopolized and properties that you hold to prevent anybody else from monopolizing them. If I own 2/3 greens and you own 1/3 greens, I'll happily trade you a green to complete my pink or cyan or orange monopolies. But I'm not going to trade you both, because my goal is to keep you from getting a monopoly. Late game, if I've already monopolized most or all of the houses so that nobody can buy any, maybe I'll go ahead and sell or trade you that third green. It won't do you any good if you can't develop it, and you can't develop it as long as I have all the houses.

Similarly, lots of people focus exclusively on the dark blues. If two players seem to be very focused on those, one has one property already, and I pick up the second, I'll definitely trade that to the other guy focused on them. Because I know that he won't trade it to the first guy and complete a monopoly, and I can usually get something good out of it.

Railroads and utilities are useless to me except as means for a trade. I'll gladly give you your third railroad in exchange for completing one of my monopolies, because by the time I deck it out with houses your piddly little RR rent will be irrelevant.

All of which is to say that resource starvation != "I'm not going to trade with you ever". But if I'm actively trading you something, you can assume I think it's worthless.

NatesGreat98 ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 04:35:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What idiots do you play with that will give you a monopoly in a deal where they won't get one?

boxsterguy ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 04:37:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mostly computers, anymore. Nobody will play Monopoly with me.

BenFoldsFourLoko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:51:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This hit home :'(

vranthe ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:11:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In addition to that, if you're going to be highly valuing any color, it should be orange b/c that grouping has the highest probability of being landed on in the game. (6, 8, and 9 spaces from jail)

boxsterguy ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:25:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There are 32 houses in monopoly. To be able to fully implement a resource starvation strategy, you need 3 monpolies (32 or 36 houses total, depending on if one of those monopolies is a two-property monopoly). I try to get cyan, because it's cheap, landed on early, and people will trade it because they think it's worthless. Then I go for orange or magenta, because of what you said. And finally, if I can pick up the purples I will less because people land on them and more because I need somewhere to put houses.

Depending on the other players, you may be fine with just 2 monopolies if houses get spread around enough that nobody else could possibly hotel. Then you buy as many houses as you can, and only hotel when you acquire new monopolies (from players selling you properties to pay rent, or going bankrupt) and you have enough cash on hand to completely buy up the houses freed up by buying hotels. The last thing you want to do is leave anything in the house pool for others to buy.

POGtastic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:36:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Orange and red are the most important properties for that reason. It doesn't help that there's a Chance card that lands on Illinois Avenue.

purplemoosen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:51:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They are also most economical. They make the greatest rate of cost to reward.

mikellawrence ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:47:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

TIL you play monopoly vs idiots

Flussiges ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:53:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yup, that was my read too.

williamj2543 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:37:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There are actually. The organge properties (new york especially) are statistically the best (most landed on), and also a good ratio of cost of hotels to reward. While buying those don't guarantee a win, it increases your odds of winning.

boxsterguy ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:41:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Buying hotels doesn't fit into a resource starvation strategy, though. You do that, you may as well just give your opponents hotels at the same time.

williamj2543 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:33:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What do you mean? You putting $ amount into the hotels puts the $ * X cost into another player when they land on it. In the lategame, this is the only way to bankrupt someone.

I guess you could make the argument that buying hotels is starving your OWN resource, but you can get back 50% of the original value if you really need too, because buying hotels is really the only way to win in the game.

BenFoldsFourLoko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:00:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The point is that 4 houses isn't far from a hotel in terms of what someone has to pay if they land on it, and if no one else can buy hotels or many houses, you'll never go bankrupt from landing on their spaces, while they slowly atrophy money to you.

boxsterguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Resource. Starvation.

The resource in question here is housing. Once you get to four houses on a property, rent is generally very high. Adding a hotel may double it (actually, it won't even come close to that; for example, 4 houses on Boardwalk = $1700, hotel = $2000), but that's not important here. What's important is preventing others from building houses (building a hotel returns 4 houses to the bank). It'll take a few more rounds of landing on your properties to bankrupt other players, but if you've successfully limited their development they won't have large amounts of money coming in.

In this strategy you can buy hotels, but only if you have the money to buy and somewhere to put the four houses you just put back into the bank.

nermid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Railroads and utilities are useless to me

Utilities are strong early-game. Later on, they're purely trade fodder.

johnthewolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

oh my god...you're my brother in my childhood monopoly games.

Grigorios ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:43:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There are better and worse properties. Blues have the highest value for your money, and oranges and reds are landed on the most.

As for the worst, Greens are easily it. The electricity and water companies (or whatever they're called) are also bad investments.

PM_ME_FUN_STORIES ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:11:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't remember the last time I accepted a trade with someone in monopoly.

I hate playing that game, so when I get roped into it from family members, my strategy is to buy everything I land on, and then never trade any of it. I'm an asshole.

Derwos ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:40:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That just means you won by default all games you would have played against her.

Rolendahl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:12:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've never played monopoly to win. I just play to keep the game going. If someone wants to trade and they have the better part of the deal (to an extent), but it means the game will be getting along quicker then I'm all for it. I'm not gonna hold my properties just so I can win that's why those games take 5+ hours to play.

GotMyQuillWeaveDid ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:43:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I made my own entertainment playing monopoly in senior year econ. We had those boomerang shaped desks pushed into a big table and because the edges were rounded there was a small gap. Some genius sat the bank right next to the gap. I was able to carefully "rob the bank" by reaching up under the table whenever everyone else was arguing. Just a few bills at a time; nobody caught on until I demonstrated the last day we played, they were all just pissed they never thought of it themselves.

spiritbx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:20:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How do you tag people on reddit? I want to make sure I never play against you in games...

PureChaosDI ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:54:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

remind me never to play Civ with you.

Nighthunter007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:13:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hotels were added in the same period as all the other shitty houserules. It's much better without.

dryingsocks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:37:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you know how to play, you can make people resent that game. Buy all the houses, never upgrade, there's not enough of them!

PMmeYourSins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:49:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Love to play when someone does this. I'll just try to hog railroads and maybe get my hands on the Greens or Yellows before we're left with two players.

Genocide_Bingo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:12:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I also play RTS as a resource starver. It feels so sadistic but so god damn good to watch the panic in their actions slowly get more and more frequent until they realise their imminent doom

nermid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My strategy is to be a genuinely nice guy. Offer to help bail out other players who are in trouble. Don't buy properties that other players want. Offer solid advice.

It's not amazing in-game, as you're cutting off a lot of potential profit, but watching the other players become increasingly paranoid and start sawing off their own knees trying to figure out what scheme you've got going on? Worth it.

"NO! I don't care if it'll give me a monopoly on the yellow properties! /u/nermid passed it up and smiled at me. I don't know what he's up to, but I'm not playing into his plot!"

6harvard ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The rule book States that if you run out of house tokens you're supposed to use stand ins (i.e. Pennies for houses quarters for hotels)

boxsterguy ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:19:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Those aren't official rules. Official rules are that the bank never runs out of money (so you can make up slips if needed), but it can run out of houses and hotels.

6harvard ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:45:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh my God I just read the book and it even says if there are no more houses and you want one you can have an auction for it. Everything I know is a lie

Brewsleroy ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:02:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I always found Ticket to Ride pretty boring (it's a slow game where not much happens imo) until I stopped playing to win and started playing to disrupt everyone else's railroads. Now I have fun.

I've never played Pandemic but I've heard good things.

Catan will make people turn on friends they've known for 20 years.

Awkward_moments ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:26:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yea I played catan, didn't think much of it. Was good but we played in 3 teams of two. 2 people played before and were on the same team.

Then in the future I played king of Tokyo and loved it, got me into board games. Tried catan again and thought it was great. Played ticket to ride thought it was awful. So one dimensional, boring just all round bad game. Played it 3 times I think and won each time, still thought it was shit.

One day I seen ticket to ride on a YouTube video and they said it was good. I thought WTF! Googled it apparently it's a well thought of game, don't know how.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:45:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When my family are getting along too well we pull out Risk.

Jess_than_three ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:17:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So no money from free parking, and any time someone lands on a property but declines to purchase it outright it's auctioned to the highest bidder?

Manleather ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:21:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Correct.

Jess_than_three ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:28:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cool beans :)

mydearwatson616 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:32:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Werewolf master race.

PlarcyMcStufflewitz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:48:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Have you heard the good word of it's disciple, The Resistance? Or perhaps it's other disciple, Spyfall? They're both a lot of fun, and you even play Spyfall for free online! (BTW, I know both these links to the same site make me look suspicious, but I promise I'm not a corporate shill, just someone who really, really loves them.)

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:40:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Akiira_Z ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:13:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Quality boarding.

Pandemic

What?

Acetius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nah mate, gimme libertalia, coup and small world

AoO2ImpTrip ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God, I love Ticket to Ride so much.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you like games that differ from the typical board games, you should check the game in the link here. Super fun game.

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/148943/coup-rebellion-g54

grape_jelly_sammich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:05:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

lol catan always went well for my group of friends. I don't like it ONLY because in my opinion, the winner of the game is essentially decided at the beginning of the game.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:45:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Didn't even Risk it? Are you even trying to destroy those relationships?

Manleather ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:33:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Risk was part of my diet when I was younger, but most people have a hard time finding six hours to play one game. I have found Catan to bring about similar levels of angst, so it's like a lite substitute.

venterol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:22:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or UNO if you wanna end a relationship in 30 minutes or less.

Kgoodies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:01:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't care for pandemic. In my experience, it just becomes the person who's the best at it directing everyone else about how to use their turns.

GroomedScrotum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:16:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ticket to Ride was decent but I found Pandemic to be a snoozer. Then again, I'm not really a fan of board games. Monopoly ruined them for me.

prospect12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:34:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well there is a rule on the box that says you can make up rules so anything goes really.

PMmeYourSins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:37:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The rules here actually affect the game time, in fact most games will go on forever if you add too many house rules.

And I don't think it sucks that much. Everybody knows the rules of Monopoly and it's really fast to set up. If you have the patience to prepare games like Carcassone with addons and then explain all the rules because there's someone new, that's fine, but Monopoly is rather playable for such a quick game.

Rusty_Katana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:27:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh man, Ticket to Ride is so good! Only played it once at "Card Kingdom" in Seattle. Such a cool spot. Can rent any board games they have and drink beer and order food. Good times.

ColdPizzaAtDawn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:51:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Does that include auctioning off a property if someone lands on it but chooses not to buy it? Because I've never met anyone who actually follows that rule.

Doctah_Whoopass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:19 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Monopoly is my jam though. Catan was alright...

steeleye5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:53:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i feel like this is a fair assessment of Monopoly... Play it for its educational value as a child and then move on to better games when you grow up.

______CJ______ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:11:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God damn pedant, you.

Never had a chance to use that word before.

Manleather ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How'd it feel?

GobbleBlabby ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:57:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No body ever believes me when I tell them that...

FF3LockeZ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:29:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

No, it's long and boring because the game is designed so that the winner is decided in the first five minutes and the rest of the game is spent gloating. That's why it's called Monopoly - it's a game about one person controlling everything and nobody else standing a chance.

Most house rules are designed to give losers a chance to make a comeback, which makes it even longer, but hopefully less boring. (Spoiler alert: this is not usually successful)

squigs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:25:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But it's quite a long game anyway. And it's a knockout game so someone ends up doing nothing while waiting for everything else to finish.

The alternative rules attempt to fix this but do so in a stupid way.

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:38:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Ducttape2021 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:18:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

See, Food Chain Magnate and Acquire both manage to be about the evilness of Capitalism and yet manage to be absolutely fun. What's Monopoly's excuse?

iglidante ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:47:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

See, I love a good, long game of Monopoly. The best part is that soul-crushing last hour where everyone is limping around the board counting dice-rolls and hoping for the one spot that won't murder them - and you're the one with all the properties and money. Or, if you're one of the limpers, trying to claw together enough cash to toss some houses on a property in advance of the rich guy so that you can toss on a few more houses, unmortgage your properties, and make a return to form.

Nighthawk0973 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:49:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So does Monopoly

gsfgf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:25:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Apparently Monopoly played with the real rules isn't an awful terrible dragfest of a game that makes you hate everyone. I've never played a real game, so I can't comment further.

if_you_say_so ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:47:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's what people like to say

NomadicKrow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:40:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Monopoly takes like an hour if you follow the rules in the box, lol. And EVERYBODY talks about how it takes so long to play, so you know they're playing family rules.

NaturesPositive ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:26:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The game is broken because capitalism is broken.

squidgyhead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I played a house-rules version called "lie cheat and steal".

One is allowed to break the rules, but if one is caught breaking the rules, one must pay back what was stolen and put an equivalent amount in free parking. Put the bank in the middle to make it more balanced. Made for intense games.

po8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Never not link this: http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic. Don't miss the mouseover text.

syntaxvorlon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:57:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The worst is when you add a derivatives market to your monopoly game.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:08:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And they all suck.

I know. Like you're not supposed to hide property deeds or cash under the cushions. Just because you're 35 and your nephew and niece are 11. You know, they can just go back to Candy Land.

pm_your__ladyparts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:07:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not if I'm winning.

humanysta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:12:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nah, they're all perfectly fine.

ablufia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:33:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

they're called bored games for a reason.

robhol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:07:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's only so much you can do with a game. Monopoly is pretty much doomed to perpetual suckage.

moreON ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:10:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I only have one rule for Monopoly:

  1. Don't play Monopoly

... okay 2 rules.

  1. Don't play Monopoly
  2. Don't own Monopoly.

I think that my rules for Monopoly don't suck.

Manleather ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:31:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We'd be friends, I have the same rules. I only partake if that's the game of choice; after playing it the right and proper way (which is still a suckfest), either nobody wants to play again, or at least no one wants to play with me.

clemens014 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:08:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everybody sucks but me

ItsACaragor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:23:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Because the game sucks. This game has been created as a learning tool to show how unfair and atrocious unbridled capitalism is. It's not supposed to be fun and once you actually think about it it's not. It's designed to be unfair and make you hate other players.

There are a lot of way better boardgames around which actually are fun because the competition is fair and balanced.

TerranKing91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:30:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

not mine

PopPunkAndPizza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:39:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some day Vlaada Chvatil or someone of equal calibre should sit down and actually figure out a good game to play with all those Monopoly pieces.

SuperPants73 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:25:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not my rule. My Monopoly rule is that we play Power Grid instead.

bequietanddrivefar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:32:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The biggest one for me is being able to just skip over a property if you don't want to buy it. I'm pretty sure the rules say if you can't buy a property you land on, it must be auctioned off. This is another rule no one (that I know of) does so the game lasts 20x longer than necessary.

lionsilverwolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:11 on November 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Drinking Monopoly is pretty great, though.

HaV0C ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shit game, shit rules.

AFantasticName ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:45:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know. Our rule was that once you bought a property, you could put houses/hotels on it immediately. It made the games a lot more intense.

NikkiSelv ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:45:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Except mine!

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:17:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Let's be honest, the actual rules to monopoly suck too

laman012 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:00:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just because some people have bad rules for monopoly doesn't mean that they suck as people. We should judge people by the content of their character, not their monopoly rules.

[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

even real monopoly rules suck. some of the rules hasbro sets down makes it seem like they were made for butthurt 7-year-olds who throw a tantrum if they go to jail

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:53:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:00:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's more fun when you follow the rules. I think some people just don't want to be bothered to read the instructions. They are fairly lengthy as I recall.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:24:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You know the Parker brothers took the time to think this all out, I think we should respect that!

Cr3X1eUZ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:43:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
MissMillyMinkins ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:48:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We do stock market. And gang warfare, which mostly includes powdered sugar, nerf guns, and protection rackets. I think next time we play, a police system is going to evolve (and then of course devolve into powdered sugar, nerf guns, and protection rackets, which will pave the way for a long-awaited Batman to emerge).

Monopoly is an excellent game.

literally_a_possum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:05:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I want to play monopoly with you, that sounds like a blast.

RSVaez ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:04:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Like all the tax money goes in the middle of the board and if you land on free parking you win the pot. No! Fuck you grandma that's how we play in this house!

TaurineLine719 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:03:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The problem is when everyone playing the same game of Monopoly has different rules. "Oh my family used to play like this" bitch you're not with your family we're playing like this

bg-j38 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My brothers and I would split all the cash in the bank evenly at the start of the game and then go balls to walls to see who could buy up the most property the fastest. Games went really quick but it was actually a lot of fun.

Extreme_Tomato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Street rules botches

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Capitalism! Yay!

anandlpatel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When playing with my cousins, I made a rule that I can grant a player immunity if they landed on my property. That mixed with my cousins turning on each other made the game last from 8pm to 4am.

We never played a game since.

jrm2007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah. I had no idea what we were really doing or that in fact there was a strategy. I think as a kid I just liked getting the money.

doyouevenjazz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I love the fact that the monopoly app for phones and tablets has a section of the settings that lets you customize house rules so you can play with all your family's weird rules officially

The_E364 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:54:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I remember playing a game of monopoly where I went for all the small bills (1,5,10,20) After I got the last twenty, my family quit. Good times

Woodshadow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:26:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I refuse to play games with my wife's family. they have different rules than the standard ones for every game they play.

Kigarta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:50:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Free parking??? Let me snatch up this income tax that never made its way to the bank.

PedroFPardo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:51:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The Magic phrase. The police caught me once snorting cocaine on top of a Monopoly board and I simply looked at then and told them "this is how we play Monopoly at home" and they let me go.

Cakiery ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:11:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There are officially no incorrect rules. The rules in the instructions are more of a suggestion than anything. IIRC there is even a section about how house rules can make the game more fun.

kerouacrimbaud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:42:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm pretty sure that's the point of the game.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:56:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well it's a monopoly after all

TurningWater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:44:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If I don't get Boardwalk I flip the game over.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:07:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You need to pay stay tax to me to stay in the hotel. You need to pay hotel tax to me to host someone in the hotel. You need to pay dice tax to roll the dice. You need to pay purchase tax to buy locations.

For some reason I cant get people to play monopoly with me.

ThePaperSolent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:07:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just like Taxes

Tudpool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:15:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family had the normal rules but nobody ever followed them. Cards were traded under tables, money and houses brought in from outside sets, banks robbed, pieces moved discreetly not to what they rolled.

Makes it more fun though.

QParticle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:13:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Known as "House Rules" officially.

Umutuku ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:21:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just rules? You mean you didn't have a miniatures battle system to fight over properties?

RyanPelley ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:44:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My friends and I used to play Monopoly a couple of times a month. We followed the rules 100%. No stupid 'Free Parking' or any of that. Even when it says in the rules that "your word is your contract." Don't make a joke about giving someone Boardwalk for $1, because you'll have to fucking do it. It made the games so much better.

helpnxt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:17:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sat down to play with friends landed on property first roll went to buy it and nope you have to go round the full board once before starting, wtf is this bullshit rule?!?!?! You know it was made up by someone who had a little brother land on the property first and was just like nah mate you have to do this first

GarbledReverie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:28:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Specifically, "Whatever, it's fine. Go ahead."

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:25:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I love playing monopoly, but no one wants to ever play with me because I try to play EXACTLY by the rules.

bergie321 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:32:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Rules like money on free parking make a 2 hour game an 8 hour (or until someone rage quits) game.

Blazinvoid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My rules were:

Wait until the friend went to the bathroom.

And also never go to the bathroom during a game. (I had the Electric Banking version of Monopoly that worked like credit cards.)

frugalNOTcheap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was crushed when I found out free parking was nothing more than free parking

fastball032 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The rules are suggestions

Laurifish ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:31:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not my husband. He is such a stickler for the rules of games that it is ridiculous. We have tons of board games, seriously probably at least 100 games. I like the old standards (not Monopoly though, it takes too long) but might like to change things up a bit. Once I suggested we play Scrabble but allow proper nouns. He looked at me like I was crazy and told me that was against the rules. I tried to plead my case explaining that it's just us playing, in our own home, and we own the game and can do with it what we like. Apparently what we like to do is play by the rules sent with the game.

DailyDoseOfCynicism ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:12:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fun can be derived from following the rules precisely.

Gizmo-Duck ยท 431 points ยท Posted at 01:25:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Egyptian Ratscrew is worse. Get out of here with your sandwiches, Big Macs, and runs.

Matcat5000 ยท 538 points ยท Posted at 02:44:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sandwiches and doubles are the rules. None of this Big Mac shit.

62frog ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 04:50:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Anyone who plays with any rules other than those is a communist.

PM_ME_A_PM_PLEASE_PM ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:53:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

eh it gets really easy with those rules tho after a short while. It's good to make it more complicated, I like add up to ten to limit luck further.

juroids14 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:51:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I like to play with Blackjacks

tangoewhisky ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 05:11:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Have played sandwiches and doubles in ERS for as long as I can remember. The fuck is a Big Mac within the game?

RancidPhD ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:30:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A Big Mac is like a sandwich but with two cards in between the pair rather than just one. I learned ERS with that rule in middle school, but then everyone I played with in high school hadn't ever heard of it.

DrGearheart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:53:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

a double sandwich? maybe? like a missed sandwich, that happens to be a second sandwich on top of that one (e.g. ace, four, ace (Missed sandwich), another four? or maybe some other card?, then ace again, creating a double sandwich)

IDK

Fyrsweord ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:00:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I played with some people who tried to tell me that you could take it if the top and bottom matched. They had retarded rules

MrHandsomeBoss ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:41:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We always play slaps for 69's too. And you have to high five when you do.

12jonnyb ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:32:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dude straight up, playing with a couple friends, and this one dude who has never played with us goes, "so if there's a queen on the bottom and top we can slap right?". smh

picardythird ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:20:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My friend and I sometimes add Suits and Sequences. If two cards are the same suit, slap. If two cards are incremented/decremented, slap.

Sithis_TheVoid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:05:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What the fuck

I_WANT_PRIVACY ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:30:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What about marriages (consecutive king and queen)? I used to play with doubles, sandwiches, and marriages.

truckerdust ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:56:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The hell is a Big Mac?

Edit: in the game

Bean03 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:44:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The fuck is a Big Mac? We used to play with marriages(king and queen next to each other) but that is dumb

LeafStorm11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:57:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

M youth group unfailingly played this at retreats and missions trips. Someone had the bright idea of slapping on 7s. Like, no matter what, if a 7 goes down, it's a slap. Stupidest way to extend the game. EVER.

joethetipper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:13:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The fuck is a Big Mac?

Ih8Hondas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Doubles only or nothing.

iconherder ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 04:52:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sandwiches are some weird Millennial BS. I can't even play ERS anymore because of this stupid new invention.

mattyoclock ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 04:56:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Man I was playing with sandwiches in the 90s

Andolomar ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:33:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You know millennials are the people who became adults after the millennium, right? I'm not taking the piss, I've met quite a few people who thought it was people born around the millennium, but it's people born in the '80s, grew up in the '90s, and became adults in the '00s.

ElegantSwordsman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:50:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thought that was gen y. Was certain millennials were 90s-00s.

Mullet_Ben ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:35:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Millennials (also known as the Millennial Generation[1] or Generation Y, abbreviated to Gen Y)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennials

Andolomar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:58:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nah Gen Y are born in the '90s or '00s. I'm a Gen Y but I've never actually heard anybody calling my generation Gen Y off the internet. Might just be an American thing, I don't know.

Frodolas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:04:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Actually people born in the late 90s are Gen Z.

Andolomar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:18:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've never even heard of Gen Z.

What happened to calling the generations after the defining event of their era? War Generation 1, War Generation 2, Baby Boomers, Cold War, Post-Soviet, and whatever the next two decades are going to bring. All this X, Y, and Z business makes me feel like I'm plotting axis on a graph, and I think some of these generations are quite done with Axis.

rydan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:59:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No. Gen Y = Millennial. It just sounds cooler so the name changed.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:18:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

90s is when millenials grew up so that's not really a counter-argument.

atasteofpb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:48:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Millennial here. Fuck sandwiches. That shit ain't my doing.

MarvelousNCK ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 02:33:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I fuckin love ERS, man. That shit gets intense. And we used play with everything, 10s, 10 sandwiches, top bottom, marriage, affairs.

calliope720 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 04:36:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Every play with redneck rules? You have to slap yourself in the forhead before slapping. It is to prevent linger-finger.

lightsandcandy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:56:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's actually brilliant.

Pakyul ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Gave make a black eye doing that.

TheLastBison ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:32:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Gay marriages were always fun as well

Pakyul ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My friends and I usually did doubles, sandwiches, double-stuff (a sandwich with two cards in the middle), marriages (king-queen), incest (king/queen-Jack), red 10s, runs, and occasionally suicides (hit on suicide king). I don't get these wimps saying you should only do doubles. The whole point is making up crazy, hard to remember rules to fuck with your opponents. It's even better to start with barebones rules and the winner gets to add a rule after every game.

MarvelousNCK ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:52:43 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You get it dude. Thats the best way to play, I actually want to play now with all these rules

tealcismyhomeboy ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 02:21:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Whoa you just brought back some memories from swim meets when I was 13... Fucking sandwiches man. And the stupid 10 rule too! I don't know what a big Mac was though.

MarvelousNCK ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:31:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same as a sandwich but with two cards in the middle instead of one

Stop_Sign ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 03:43:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yea that sounds like bullshit

alienpirate5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:34:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

4664

_TheManWithoutAPlan_ ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:07:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We call it Egyptian Rat Slap. I like your name better.

lightsandcandy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We called it Egyptian War

Doomsayer189 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Egyptian Rat Race for me, or just Slap Happy.

HypersonicHarpist ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:57:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My sister and I used to play this game and the slaps got viscous.

janae0728 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 03:56:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The slaps got thick and sticky?

HypersonicHarpist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:58:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

dang it! I always get the spelling of those two words mixed up and it's not misspelled so spellcheck doesn't catch it!

evaned ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:21:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

the slaps got viscous.

When I was in middle school, I'd regularly play this at lunch with some friends. I was sure that someone was going to break a finger at some point.

Never actually happened, and we only drew blood on a few occasions...

HypersonicHarpist ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:26:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We made my sister take her rings off every time after there were some injuries.

orthodoxrebel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:03:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was in an academic league that was more or less team jeopardy, and my friends in that league and I would play ERS a lot. I would win probably 65% of the slaps (needless to say, my buzzer game was very strong also)... But man, did they get cranky every time I won something. I learned to slap, grab the cards because if I wasn't out of the pile immediately, my hand was gonna get smashed by cantankerous high schoolers.

Thin-White-Duke ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:46:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What is this Big Mac shit? Only doubles and sandwiches.

Reddit197 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:05:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

See I always learned it as Egyptian rat slap, but as the other guy said, doubles and sandwiches are the norm, Big Macs are crap.

tehweave ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:34:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh my god I haven't played Ratscrew in years. How do the "casual" rules go again?

vortigaunt64 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I used to play that in high school while wearing my big heavy state ring (Quiz-Bowl). Nobody wanted to risk slapping while I was playing.

Shamanations ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:38:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do you play top bottom? As in if the card laid down is the same as the bottom you can slap the pile?

yobigboss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I HATE THE SANDWICH RULE. ITS FOR THE WEAK.

frostyfloridian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The way my friends love to play is if you false slap 3 times in a game, you lose and the game must continue on your bare back. You stayed like that until the next player got out then the punishment was over.

It was only a joke towards our one friend because he'd slap after any fave card he played, especially Jacks. It stuck and is one of our rules now. The red marks last a day because it takes so long to get someone out.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What is a Big Mac???

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:32:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Love the reference- didn't know other people knew about that game.

Csantana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:43:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

love me my sandwich rule but what are big macs and runs?

mattstreet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:44:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The problem with playing with any new group is there is always some asshole who thinks they're funny trying to play wearing some big ring. Or at the very least they hoover inches from where you're putting the cards. Or they can't flip the card the right way so they get to see the card like a second before everyone else - and don't understand how that ruins the game.

People, what a bunch of bastards.

J_Tuck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah but without slaps the game is predetermined on who will win

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:10:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sandwiches, doubles, marriages, 10's are how I prefer to play.

sdlite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I always played doubles, sandwiches, and whenever a jack and a 7 are next to each other (it happens too often not to be a swappable event). Idk what the heck big macs and runs are though.

Brandon23z ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:37:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh my God, hearing that game takes me back. We used to play that competitively as fuck back in middle school.

Friendships were broken, cards were ripped, tables were flipped.

Holy fuck. Those people took Egyptian Ratscrew seriously.

speaktosumboedy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:18:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We used to play King-Queen as Marriage and Queen-Jack as Hetereosexual Incest and King-Jack as Homosexual Incest. Made the game extremely immature and awesome.

ArbitraryTroy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:38:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Never heard of Big Macs, but fuck sandwiches. I made them an illegal slap back in the day because it happened ALL. THE. TIME. Slapping is fun, especially after a massive 25 card pile. Not after 3 freaking cards.

Greecl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:51:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family plays a version of this, we call it Egyptian Ratshank

Same rules but you use a steak knife instead of slapping the card pile

d00dical ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:07:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Idk wtf a Big Mac is and it's been like 6 years since I've played this game but I feel like it would be much less interesting without runs and sandwiches.

thiney49 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:48:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You must hate Mao then.

Msmadmama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:27:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I used to play that all the time and have no idea what you are taking about.

ouroboros1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Huh, that was only what we called it when our parents were around. The rest of the time, it was Egyptian Rat Fuck, all the way.

reservoirmonkey ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 03:40:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

this. I played with friends the other day and it was like learning a new game. i didnt realise every time you land on a property it has to be auctioned off if the player chooses not to buy it. Speeds the game up a lot, we used to just go round and not buy stuff.

fran_the_man ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:29:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus, your games of Monopoly must have taken ages. It takes long enough as it is!

SecretBlogon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:57:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had no idea we had to auction either, until a few years ago, my colleague was talking about monopoly and mentioned it. I didn't believe her and had to google to confirm.

We played everything else by the rules though. Auction was the only thing we missed out.

FireHawkDelta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:57:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I always refused to play Monopoly with my family because it's long, boring, and mostly dependent on which spaces you land on in the first two loops. Shit.

bluefire1717 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yup! Some strategies are auctioning off it even you want it and pay less for it. People call me communist when I do that. I'm pretty sure they don't know what communism is then..

Victor3000 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:20:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My god, when i discovered there were actual rules to Monopoly, it was like finding the lost ark. And then, the disappointment set in when i found out that no one seemed to care. Much like the lost ark.

bossbozo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:38:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This strikes close to home, they don't exactly not care, but they know otherwise, so here goes, last time I played, I was trying to convince everyone about the house rules, yet I missed out when trying to convince them that we do not need to go round the board to start buying properties. They insisted that it makes the game more fair towards who starts last, now two people ended in jail, one of them twice, guess who ended up without any properties? Yeah more fair my ass.

[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 03:44:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Listen to the How Stuff Works Episode about Monopoly. Apparently if you play by the rules a game should not last longer than an hour, an hour and a half at most.

44problems ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 04:28:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Big difference is plenty of people don't auction. It makes gaining properties so slow.

Smark_Henry ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:55:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's because one person is supposed to be the banker/auctioneer and nobody wants to do that shit so it's kinda like they're doing a simplified equivalent of playing Dungeons and Dragons without a Dungeon Master.

Koras ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:15:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I always had the opposite issue of my sister wanting to be the banker and always using it to cheat.

Then again, if you're playing the banker and not cheating, are you really playing the banker?

Smark_Henry ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:18:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's the thing, someone's supposed to only be the banker and not play.

Koras ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:35:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not true actually, from the rules (at least the most current ones)

Select as Banker a player who will also make a good Auctioneer. A Banker who plays in the game must keep their personal funds separate from those of the Bank. When more than five persons play, the Banker may elect to act only as Banker and Auctioneer.

...don't ask why I have the monopoly rules bookmarked. This may explain why nobody wanted to be your banker!

Edit: the banker also goes first, this game is just full of little satirical rules

kroxigor01 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:22:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's also almost no strategy involved... yay let's flip coins for an hour and a half.

Or we could play settlers of Catan.

Manning119 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:21:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair Catan is also a lot of dice rolls and your game can be lost if the 6's or 8's you need aren't getting rolled as often as they should. This is coming from a huge Catan fan, it's an infinitely better game than Monopoly or Risk that also depend on dice.

kroxigor01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:25:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well yes Catan isn't my favourite but it is the easy to learn game everyone will be happy with.

Oh to find a group of 6 that know how and want to play A Game of Thrones the board game. And to have 4 hours to spare :p

/r/AGOTBoardGame

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My go to is Cards Against Humanity or SuperFight. Catan is my to buy list.

hexane360 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Of course that's assuming everyone's paying attention and don't take 3 minutes per turn.

JediGuyB ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:20:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, keep playing till everyone is tied of playing and I win by house rules default because I have the most property and money.

Honestly cannot remember the last time I lost Monopoly.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:44:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Monopoly is very commonly house ruled. Given how much the game already sucks in its late stages, they tend to just make it worse

sirJackHandy ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 00:10:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You know what would be the most terrifying thing that could ever happen to a flea? Getting caught inside a watch somehow. You don't even care, do you?

Deliphin ยท 120 points ยท Posted at 00:28:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

The fuck are you talking about?

[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 02:27:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A flea getting stuck inside a watch somehow. What else?

Smark_Henry ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:53:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why is one random e bolded?

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:21:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

/r/emboldentheE or something

coltiga ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:24:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I care!!

heraclitic ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:35:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No such thing as bankruptcy. Turn monopoly money over, and it's an instant well of available debt (no-interest). We looked up the rules once, but stuck with our version - being punished for being too poor struck a bit too close to home at the time.

Unfortunately, this meant that the game had no real end, and lasted anywhere from several hours to a few days. Either boredom or frustration won out, then the richest person was declared the winner.

trainiac12 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:21:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Playing monopoly right now on TT sim. House rules suck.

chargingmysian ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:37:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We had this rule where if you could physically steal money from the bank/someone else without anyone noticing for a good few turns, it was yours. Sometimes my dad would enforce that you might lose a property on the board due to a raid/investigation.

Bathroom breaks were difficult.

shwag945 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:08:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Our stealing rules aren't that intense but I am not allowed to be banker anymore.

TheBongler ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:31:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There are no wrong rules in monopoly. It is in the rule book.

bossbozo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:30:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My rule book says otherwise

Moncole ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:35:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The rule book says you can have house rules which lets you make up your own rules.

sasquatch_yeti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:21:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is monopolies fault. The rule book is a vague piece of garbage. I refuse to play Monopoly ever because if this!

bossbozo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:44:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Have a look at a modern rule book, def not vague, very clear, there is even a section called play it right (or something like that) highlighting that you should not get anything from free parking, nor should you loan money, pay later or do deals where in exchange for property you get free passes/exemptions from paying rent.

sasquatch_yeti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:43:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well then, that changes everything. You know how often I had the conversation.

"You can't do deals"

"Show us in the rules where it says that"

"It doesn't say you can, or explain how deals are done, so deals are not part of the game"

"But it doesn't say you can't"

By that logic the rules didn't say I couldn't use slight of hand to steal from the bank, the free parking pot or other players, which is what I did to amuse myself after this stuff happened.

bossbozo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:28:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As promised here is my rule book http://imgur.com/a/E51so the copyright is dated 2013 and includes extra rules to be used with what they call a speed die (never mind that)

In the page titled buildings, there's a sub title regard deals and trade. On the last page there is something called top tips which calls out 3 bad house rules unfortunately it does not mention not getting money for rolling snake eyes and not getting 400 for landing on go.

The rule book does not cover what to do in case all or almost all the 32 houses are used up and you wish to downgrade a hotel.

sasquatch_yeti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have been married 12 years, so my best guess is that I have not played Monopoly or owned a copy for 11.5 years now. Sorry, I threw that game out a long time ago, to save a marriage.

bossbozo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ah, too bad, was looking forward for them, compare and contrast kinda deal, maybe find something I like better than in the new rules. My friends and I discovered that auctioning houses/hotels does not work well, so instead each player wishing to buy rolls the dice, highest scorer gets to buy it. Yes it's a house rule, but a good one that integrates within the game, not destroy it.

sasquatch_yeti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I will look through this. It may redeem it for me. I wonder how it will go over at someone else's house if I agree to play, but "only if we follow the rules on my phone here".

bossbozo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They are so important that first thing they'll tell you is too tead them aload

bossbozo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Please provide pics of your rule book, and I'll send pics of mine

BenThePerson1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In my family, you can make deals with people to get property you want. Still have no idea if that is an official rule.

bossbozo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

From other people or from the bank? If the first yeah that's one of the fundamental mechnics of the game, if the second, unless you buy it by falling on it, or by winning an auction after someone else falls on it and happen to not want it than it's against the rules.

BenThePerson1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Other people

bossbozo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:09 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, you are allowed, encouraged even to deal and trade with other players. Luck does play a role in the game, but being able to negotiate with others to get the better deal is what wins you the game.

ArizonaGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So I collect older monopoly boards from around the world. Old including pre-Euro currency. Play with two to four countries at once. Passing go is passing customs, and you pay a currency conversion fee.

xiape ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why not just unlearn Monopoly while you're at it?

SD__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, so that.. except backgammon!

BigBadOsker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

1 rule to Monopoly: Don't play Monopoly.

ShadowStone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:52:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh gosh.

In the 6th grade, I had to move schools because my father lost his job. I went from a gated community town to living in a desert with higher crime rates, armed campus security, gangs in schools, the works. I came in on "Game Day", where students could bring board games and cards to play once our lesson was over. I decided to try to make new friends, and they were playing Monopoly. After a few rounds, I backed off and said, "This isn't exactly the way I play, I'd rather not, but thanks".

Two class periods later, I got pulled from PE, in the winter, not permitted to get my jacket, and got dragged to the Principal's office. As if I wasn't worried enough, it being my first day, I got patted down and searched because one of the students I was playing with got their PS Vita stolen and they assumed I did it. I didn't. Came home crying.

The rules to monopoly can suck a holy bag of divine dicks.

Plamadude30k ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Really? Monopoly? If I'm out to destroy a relationship with a board game, I'm doing it right and playing Diplomacy.

AetherMcLoud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We purposely trained him wrong, as a joke.

tonystankisajerk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well my parents taught me the wrong way to play UNO. Several years later, when I was playing with my friends, I was told I was playing the game wrong

SittingWonderDuck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Machi Koro the board game is better https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/175239/machi-koro-deluxe-edition

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Game is similar but not exactly like Monopoly

Vaginal_Decimation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep, every property hit has to be bought or auctioned.

Saigon_Sprinter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pro tip: learn the official rules to monopoly and play by them VERY STRICTLY. No one will ever ask you to play again. For example you are only allowed to play with the provided houses in the box...no extras or substitutes. This means you can only buy houses for your monopoly (4 for each property) thus preventing anyone else from having very powerful property since there are only a few houses remaining (for added effect buy another monopoly and add the remaining houses). Now you continue to play the game refusing to upgrade or let anyone quit for hours until they never ask you to play monopoly again.

dimebag667 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No shit. If you play by the rules, its actually not bad. But its still no Hero Quest!

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

the sad part is that's really fun if you play by the real rules

disorder1991 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God, after I got into the hobby side of board games, I realize how terrible most of those Milton Bradley games people often grow up with are...

rubbernub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have yet to play Monopoly with the correct rules, and I play a lot of board games. The correct rules might make the game slightly more bearable, but I'd still rather play pretty much anything else.

Uhmerikan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The Free Parking money rules are what make this game take 6 hours and drive everyone away. Also, if you land on a property and don't want it, it goes up for auction. Every time. It doesn't take that long to sell off every property.

why_must_i_go ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Did that scar you for life?

seanthemanpie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just play the NES game. Super quick, and everyone follows the rules.

KickItNext ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So you also won all the money from chance/community chest cards and the various tax spaces when landing on free parking?

shlik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I like the rule where if you land on free parking, you get the money at the center of the board. This money at the center is made up of all the taxes/fees/etc. that you pay during the game.

Cr3X1eUZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The point of Monopoly is that it was intended to be unfair. Changing the rules to make it more "fair" kind of defeats the purpose.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/apr/11/secret-history-monopoly-capitalist-game-leftwing-origins

GeorgeHopCleanBeats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:44:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family had it so that any money used at all, unless it was a payment to another player, went in the middle, and you got it all if you landed on free parking.

anix421 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:54:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is why games last 4 hours... and I am single...

PM_boobies_PLZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:58:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I notice most people I play with don't play the "auction" rules I learned from a monopoly video game. If you and on a property and don't buy it/can't afford it, you auction it and all tho other players get a shot at it. It goes to the highest bidder

4609203 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

cash under free parking RUINS the game. I forced my family to unlearn this along with me.

Deoxys2000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mistake was if you don't want to buy a property, don't buy it. No auctioning, probably because it was too complicated. So, it always ran in my family that Monopoly games took days to finish(and some other friends who practiced that rule).

Then one day, I casually brought it up to my school friends about how Monopoly Empire and Avengers(somewhat different style of play from original Monopoly) took such a short time to finish the game. When I explained my house rules to them, they laughed their heads off. Trying to learn original rules now.

Can anyone tell me at what amount should the auction start off at? And what does the instruction mean if it says that the 'banker can join the auction'? Doesn't he control only the bank? Why would he bid? Or does the banker play?

kupur ยท 1077 points ยท Posted at 02:08:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's okay to want affection and that it's not normal to be surrounded by fighting all the time.

[deleted] ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 06:25:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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TandalfB ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 13:25:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

good, that should never become a norm

barktreep ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 06:56:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can relate. It's like fucking twilight zone when I visit my parents now. I'll go for months without yelling at anybody but as soon as I go home it's like the only way we communicate.

dragonnerd ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:47:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can relate.

CravingSunshine ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 09:11:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Right? Also all families don't fight. There are some families that NEVER fight. They still stand by this. They've got a lot of issues and its been hard to separate myself from this.

Abbacoverband ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 06:18:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hear fucking hear. And that it's not normal or ok to say the most cutting, awful things you can think of to have the upper hand in any (ANY!) disagreement.

Crazycatlover ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 10:03:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

On the other end of the spectrum, it's okay to fight sometimes. I grew up in a household where arguing, much less fighting, was a Very Bad Thing. I was immensely uncomfortable the first time I disagreed with my roommate.

Gespierdeman ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:06:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

this one hits home jesus christ

nellynorgus ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 09:12:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

your parents taught you it was okay to want affection and that it's not normal to be surrounded by fighting all the time, and you decided this needed unlearning?

sorry, just being a dick >.>

kupur ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:34:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I worded my response wrong. I couldn't figure out how to say it, I guess.

My father definitely has anger issues of some kind. He would scream at us (his kids, his wife) if his laptop was too slow, or if the TV didn't have anything good on, or if he had a bad day at work. I could probably name off his good days on my fingers.

We (his kids) were terrified to have friends over in the event that he would have one of his outbursts while they were over. When I eventually allowed my boyfriend (this was years ago, we're no longer together, but that's another story) to come over, he waited until the bf was gone before he verbally berated me, grounded me, and grabbed me by the arm to drag me away.

Speaking of that, he was physical. You ask him, he'll claim to not remember it. He would physically drag us out of the room by our upper arms - not enough to leave bruises, but hard enough that our skin was reddened and hurt.

[edit to add: He got angry at my brother one time and told him to "fight him." They did - punching and kicking and who knows what.]

He was a terror to live with. Nothing was ever good for him - we were expected to be silent, obedient; wake up, go to school, come home, eat dinner, go to bed. Nothing in between. If we deviated from his "plan" (which was always - he didn't want any kind of noise) we got yelled out. And cussed at - I think I learned most of my swear words from him.

He was a menace. We had to go through him to do anything, because if we asked our mom for something she'd just tell us to ask him instead bc he was the man of the house.

He definitely didn't give any kind of affection - like I said above, he used to grab us and drag us away when we were being stubborn/not fast enough/whatever. That was the extent of it. We got some love from our mom, but not nearly enough - she had work.

And speaking of work, now that I'm on the topic, they worked together at this PT business he owned. She didn't get paid - neither did he, for a time, because his business turned into a shithole and they weren't making any money. My brothers and I would spend every summer at the place, and if we were even a little loud, we would get verbally berated once the patients were gone, and then punished when we got home. (I'm sorry, but how can you expect 3 little kids to be quiet? esp. when we were preschoolers, or in elementary school?)

My parents also fought a lot. My father would scream at our mother, and she'd scream back. I can't remember what their fights were about.

[edit: in sum, he was a very absent father, except for when he was mad. he'd play video games and scream at us for watching, then force himself next to us to watch what we were doing on the computer. he controlled when we could go on the desktop and made sure he knew what we were doing - not by any software or anything, but by creeping in next to us.]

I can't think of what else went on right now. I'll probably think of some more later. Sorry for the lumps of text that go in absolutely no order.

So yes, I needed to unlearn that fighting isn't normal, unlearn that it's not okay to want affection, and I still need to work on unlearning, because right now I'm terrified of letting myself get close to people and unable to form meaningful relationships because I have no idea what they look like.

nellynorgus ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:51:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hope it helped to write it out.

For what it's worth, I read it all.

endlessbottles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:19:24 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sorry you had to go through that. That sounds like absolute hell

kupur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:17 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It was. But they've separated now and I'm living with my mom. She can get bad sometimes, but it's not nearly as bad as it was.

dizdi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:44:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was confused by that

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:53:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's also the other end of the spectrum which is it's normal for families to argue and fight sometimes, and you shouldn't compare yourself to the happy go-lucky guys you see at church every week (because they also fight, just behind closed doors).

bigalsplaypen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:33:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This. My family had all of the rules about not backtalking but it seemed like it more existed to goad you into a fight. Every conversation became a struggle, every week someone got into a physical altercation. I look back and see people who tried to help me and my siblings but we just assumed it was a setup. Constant fighting and hate until I moved out and people wouldn't interact with me for a year. Then I started to figure out that you can be loved and you can be loving, your default doesn't have to be going on the attack.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:53:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've been trying so hard to get away from my chaotic home, and I finally found a way. I'm going to be moving abroad in a few days. It's going to take a long time for me to unlearn that the constant fighting is normal, though. I don't really know what affection is.

lionsilverwolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:24:03 on November 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh man, necro reply but damn that hit home. My mom was very much the 'don't touch me' kind and getting any affection from her (thing is, she's very loving, but bad at it) was almost enough to make me cry. Took me years with my gf to learn that I could get hugs or just go over and cuddle or ask for a shoulder rub or something.

Thing is, with my dad bearing the brunt of mom's ire, he and I were very close so most of my physical attention came from him. It's just with women that I have that nagging feeling of 'I shouldn't bother her'.

Anashi_Masma ยท 872 points ยท Posted at 04:49:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That because someone is family, you should automatically love them.

Kintarly ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 11:34:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom told me stories about how her father, my grandfather, and her cousins were all very physically and emotionally abusive. I don't see them often because I live in another town, but when they call or visit I'm expected to be there to hug them and tell them I love them and miss them.

I don't know these people by anything except for the horrible stories my mom tells, and she expects me to love them?

I feel disdain towards my mother for a lot of reasons, a lot of which being bad habits she picked up from my grandfather, but every time I see her she always asks me if I love her, and if I'm going to take care of her when she's older. She's terrified me and my sister won't be there.

We probably won't be.

[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 12:35:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No one should ever rely on someone else to "take care of them" in old age. That's not why we have children--though a lot of folks believe that.

ShadowSlayer74 ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 09:23:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's a piece of advice that can go to hell, my brother in law threatened my wife and ia few weeks ago and his mother wanted is to ignore it and play nice because 'he's family', fuck that you threaten wife in any way you better hope that I only ignore you and never go to family gatherings.

podolski39 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:51:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You sort that shit out with him not his mom

ShadowSlayer74 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:29:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He lives a couple hundred miles away from us so the threat didn't carry any real weight but that doesn't make it acceptable.

We just decided we were done with her family, all of her step mother's children are abusive and just generally the worst kind of people and their mother is the reason my wife has a hard time trusting anyone because she has mental issues and regularly goes off her meds.

Genocide_Bingo ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 13:27:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They started using the "blood is thicker than water" crap recently so I told them the complete quote: "The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb" (Meaning friends made by choice are better than family). Fuck the idea that because I was randomly made by you that I owe you loyalty. If you're a good family you'd have earned it but you can't just materialize trust and love out of nowhere.

tortilla11 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:22:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Absolutely fuck that shit! My maternal aunt pulls this crap on me. My mom passed away when I was a kid and my aunt gets pissy because I have a step-mom and step-sister who have been my family longer than my biological mom was. She constantly talks crap about them when I see her so I stopped visiting. My dad also has a half-sister who is closer to my age, so she's my aunt but been more like a sister to me. My maternal aunt got offended that I invited my dad's sister to my graduation when she's not a "real" aunt. I have vocalized to her how ridiculous it is to hold on to the idea that because I am biologically closer to her that it has any affect on the actual meaningful people in my life. She just won't let it go.

IAmPiernik ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 12:13:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

True. Just because they're family, doesn't mean they're good people.

narudeus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:09:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have been trying and trying to explain this to my mom.Certain family members treats me like shit and she will be like : he/she is from the family while i will be like : ''รญ don't fucking care,i will never talk to that person ever again and i will cut him off my life''.

IAmPiernik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You don't choose family unfortunately.

Maladresse ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:59:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Note : also applies to step-family

MythGuy ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 09:14:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I kinda agree, but at the same time, I absolutely abhor this idea.

Story time.
I have an older brother that is a drug addicted entitled asshole of a person. When our dad died he insisted on getting an even split of the insurance money. That didn't happen; it was for my mom and was never meant to be split among us. He thinks she stole from us and won the death lottery. She bought a small house with it and invested in a few other things. She made it clear that we were welcome to move in, but him and my older brother shouldn't get too comfortable and should be on the way out. They were offered the basement/garage space to share. He had a hissy fit over how his privacy was being stolen and how he'd have to be around my other older brother's "skank" of a girlfriend. Utterly disrespectful. He chose not to live there, instead couch surfing with friends for a year until they were sick of his mooching. My mom, not wanting her son to be on the streets, let him back in with the same offer. He refused, instead using our den as a bedroom. One morning he came home drunk (rare for him because "drinking is for teenagers") while I was watching TV. He told us (younger brother, a visiting friend, and myself) to clear the room so he could sleep. I reminded him that he was not entitled to the room and I was not obligated to comply (something I had previously discussed with my mom) he got a jug of water, poured it out on the carpet declaring it fine cause it wasn't his. He left the house, and I immediately locked him out so I could call my mom (who was out for the night) to figure out what to do. A moment later the door frame flew off and splintered as he kicked in the door, rushed at me, pinned me to the couch, spit and screamed in my face, and begged me to hit him so he could fuck me up. He even took my hands and squeeze the wrist to force them into fists so that he could best himself with my fists so that he could claim I had assaulted him and I had to force my hands back open. After 15 minutes he took a break. My friend, who I had multiple times asked to call the police, left because he didn't want to get involved. I left and ran behind a local business while I called my mom and told her to get home and hurry and filled her in. I didn't return home until she was back. He threatened her, mentioning using the kitchen knives. She called the police. He claimed we were crazy and that I assaulted him. I wanted to press charges but my mom talked me out of it because at one point I pushed back trying to get him off of me and "self defense doesn't work the same with domestic violence."
Within a week he was couch surfing again, but only for a few months. He came back asking my younger brother if he could borrow his bed for the night. And then it was another night. And now he, 3 years later, lives in my younger brother's room. 2 years ago he was jailed for a jailed for a possession charge awaiting trial. Called me up and my other older brother and I drove 2 hours to the jail he was at. He told me where some money was in "his room". Before leaving I informed my mom what the money was under: bags and bags of weed.
Upon arriving we waited 40 minutes for him to be released on bail. As we walked to the car he was spitting at the jail, shouting about how the cop that brought him in had a small dick, how the police had just robbed him, and how they'd be lucky to see him again cause he wasn't gonna show up to court. It still hurts me to this day that we did not turn back around, back inside that jail and ask if we could leave him there instead actually.
A year later he was picked up on warrants and taken to jail. We refused to help. A week later he was out because some friends finally came and helped bail him out. It sucked seeing him back because I had finally felt semi-related again.
Recently we have written detailed rules for him to follow and failure to adhere to many of them is potentially immediate eviction. Part of it is also guidelines and loose time line on getting his life together so that he can move out and be independent and not have to deal with us. He whined that we were being unfair, that it was bullshit, that the government would use parts of our rules to justify killing him and make it look like a suicide (he has claimed mental illness, were not sure how true that is since it seems inconsistent and he has an education in psychology). He "lost" his copy of the rules, requiring a reprint and still insists they aren't valid, since he never signed (not applicable, it's a notice of eviction with an open ended deadline if certain expectations are met.) He's an immature man child and I've only touched on a view of the major things. There's much more to hate as well. But I am sick and tired of being used my him. He may be related, but as far as I'm concerned, he hasn't been my brother since he was a teenager over a decade ago.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:34:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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MythGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks. I certainly hope he does have something going on out of his control. It'd be nice to have my brother back. I don't think the relationship will ever be fully repaired though, and that's really sad.

djrob0 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:36:34 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it's not the same river and he's not the same man.

One of my favorite quotes. Dont mourn for whats passed, pursue what you want and be grateful for your gifts. He might do better with your spotlight off of him, I did once the "pressure" was off the relationship. Either way, only good can come of forgiving him for acting with a sick mind.

BluesFan43 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 11:54:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Blood is thicker than water.

Or, the full sentence

The blood of the bond is thicker than the water of the womb.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:20:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Blood of the Covenant

FTFY

BluesFan43 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:18 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you. Never read it that way or just plain dumbassed it.

Can Covenant in this statement be the bond of friendship?

Or is it a biblical Covenant with God?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:45 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, it is usually interpreted as a friendship bond, but it can also be a Covenant with God.

The dictionary meaning of "covenant" is a promise, pact or agreement.

IThinkTheClockIsSlow ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:55:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Family is overrated.

AccountWasFound ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:01:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hate this rule. I'm constantly guilt tripped for not wanting to spend time with my cousin who is 13 years younger than me, and acts like he's is in preschool... Can barely read, hates education, doesn't speak in full sentences unless you tell him to. Oh and he doesn't have a disability, he just only started going to a decent school a year ago....

Chevsapher ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:54:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents were exactly the opposite... they are always quite wary of family members. I guess it's hard to find a middle ground; you're stuck with family, whether you like them or not.

Accio_PumpkinJuice ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 12:51:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have personally debunked the whole "stuck with the family you got" theory.

adriardi ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 12:55:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No you're not. You can easily not talk to them once you're an adult.

thehigginses19 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:54:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Omg this! I can't stand my 2 older sisters cause they're like 10 years older then me and we have nothing in common plus they're absolutely horrible so I avoid them and their families and it irritates the hell out of my mother.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:17:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother was married twice. So I have a half brother from her previous marriage. She loves him more than we all do. Just because he's "my" family doesn't mean I love him like I love my biological brothers. I hate my half-brother because he's an inconsiderate asshole

Merkuri22 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:43:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We were taught that because somebody was in your family you should love them, but you didn't have to like them.

This was mentioned more often when my grandmother started becoming a bit senile, and would periodically say to us, "I like you" when she used to say "I love you." My mom would tell us that she didn't have to like us, so that was more of a compliment.

kosmo1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:52:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You neither have to like nor love your family. You don't have to respect them either.

Generally anybody who tells you that you should feel something towards someone else just because that's the way it is, is wrong.

I can like you. And I will be sure that I like you when I do. I won't force myself to it.

I can love you and can recognize this feeling. Won't force myself.

"I love you" is stronger than "I like you" and saying otherwise will only make it harder to really show someone these feelings when you recognize them.

danwroy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:55:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well you should unless you shouldn't

ShadowPhoenix22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:26:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What about manipulitative people, like me, or abusive, like I can sadly be, or oh so many, whether physically, sexually, mentally, or otherwise? Love...maybe. But there's an extent where that ends.

poopwithjelly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:34:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just because you don't feel that way towards you cousin, doesn't mean you can judge those of us that just want to smell 'em.

coffee-hyped ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:49:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb."

FierceDeity_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:08:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And if they touch you inappropriately it's really hard to deal with that uncle

Happened often enough, didn't it?

octeddie91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:43:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I always laugh when people say things like this to me. My aunt told me I'll get what I deserve and I'm a bad person after my mom passed away.

Why? Because my mom was sick and in the hospital and I was too poor at the time for the gas to go to visit her once a week. I think? You know...I don't know. She just wasn't a nice person.

xboxg4mer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:49:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad is a pretty big asshole, my family don't seem to understand why I hate him and pretty much refuse to speak to him.

Rocky_Bukkake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:32:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

same here friend. i have tossed that one away!

waddlinmabel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:27:55 on August 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is something I have to unlearn too. I want to make sure my kids like someone before I force them to hand out hugs and kisses to people who make them uncomfortable.

Lunatic335 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:53:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is something I truly believe regardless of what my parents say. I won't out loud say because of the shitstorm that will occur, but I truly believe that blood can be thin as water. Not literally of course.

TheCardiganKing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:44:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ding ding ding! My family... My parents have all been abusive. Didn't matter how; serious physical abuse or emotional abuse with some heavy manipulation.

My dad is rage-a-holic on dialysis with a half functioning heart and I could care less. He is an awful man. Stepmother is a manipulator and pitted my siblings and I against each other. Oldest sister is a cheater and manipulator. Mother neglected me to the point of never having enough food in the house and never bought me proper clothes or shoes. Stepfather is a cross dressing alcoholic that my mother met in a mental institution.

I hate them all. I really do. They are all despicable people and my life has been unbelievably better without them in it. Went from very suicidal to pretty happy with a loving girlfriend (and, yay, I can have a relationship because I'm not so fucked up anymore!).

thereaderrunt ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:55:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everyone says I should love my dad but honestly he's the most irritating person I've ever had to deal with nowadays. I appreciate him and respect him (mostly) but I hate what he does, and he doesn't respect my privacy a lot of the time. He never knocks before coming in my room, he roots through my bin, and constantly asks me questions about things I'm doing. And follows me around a lot.

manamachine ยท 1298 points ยท Posted at 03:07:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm not a special snowflake. Being "smart" and "talented" stopped mattering around age 17 and I felt like a fraudulent fuck-up until I learned how to work and apply myself.

[deleted] ยท 252 points ยท Posted at 06:36:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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awkwardlylurkingdude ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 07:24:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yuuuup. Even now, I'm in University and doing okay (still don't have a work ethic though, could probably do a lot better if I didn't think trying was hard and for other people) my mother keeps telling me about how I was so special as a child and how it was so much work raising a gifted child... I wanted to learn things, can you believe it? I'm an only child and she has no other experience so she still thinks me being a curious child makes me a genius, that and some bullshit IQ test I had when I was 5 that said so... what can you tell from an IQ test on a 5 year old

Just_Another_Wookie ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 08:09:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

what can you tell from an IQ test on a 5 year old

IQ tests correct for age, so quite a bit, actually:

in one longitudinal study, the mean IQ scores of tests at ages 17 and 18 were correlated at r=0.86 with the mean scores of tests at ages five, six, and seven

c00kieraider2 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 13:29:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same! I was also in the gifted program. I also hate doing anything that I'm not immediately good at. I remember my phase of trying to learn the guitar. It lasted about a week. Even things that should be fun (like video games, sports, board games etc) are just super frustrating for me if I don't understand everything right away. University was incredibly hard on me because I went from having some of the best marks in school, to being completely average (I was actually on the low end of intelligence for the program I was in.. I think). It was like I lost my whole identity. I'm still having a hard time getting back any sort of self worth since I judge myself on a completely unreasonable scale.

_That_One_Guy_ ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 14:23:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was in gifted programs and such, and my parents always told me I needed to learn to study. Why would I need to do that? I pass my classes with A's while slacking off. I hit college and tanked my self esteem because I couldn't learn things, and I'm apparently not smart at all. I can't go to tutoring or get help, because then it's not really me learning. I can't rely on other people to help me do thing that I should be able to do by myself. Dropped out and got a trade job in construction (which I like, but it's not engineer pay).

At least you pushed past it. I couldn't because I did it to myself.

cloistered_around ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 13:59:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fear of failure. If you don't try--you can't fail. It's a hard mentality to overcome, but give it time, OP! It'll get better as you keep going outside your bubble of comfort.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:11:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I worked with a guy who is basically the smartest person I know. He'd read engineering papers on his free time (then moved to scientific papers when he ran out of content). He barely needed training before becoming better than half the people at the company.

Unfortunately, his natural talent meant he gave no shits in uni and would frequently skip class. He would rank well, but no nearly as high as he could have, and he's still working at the same place that's barely acknowledging his abilities (other than giving him 10x more work than everyone else).

r1243 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:33:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel ya, but in my case it's not even from over-expecting parents. I can't follow through with hobbies or new things I'm trying to learn because I get tired and fed up as soon as I don't see any progress in a short while. no idea why it started or where it came from, I guess I just had high expectations for myself that stuck.

MLG_SlashySouls ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:24:25 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm right there with you. I got over a 4.0 in high school and I studied for literally only geography tests. I did my homework in the period before class, or during the class it was due in. Then I'd go to football practice and then play video games until it was time for bed. I was such a smart kid who wouldn't have any trouble in college! [hurl]

I nearly flunked out of college in my first year and have been struggling to get it back under control. I'm finally starting to figure out how to be a good worker and how to actually be successful.

Even if you are "naturally gifted" or whatever other kind of bull people may try to feed you, it's worthless if you don't know how to apply yourself and put in the work.

Dr_on_the_Internet ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:19:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep, I'm in med school now and realized I've fallen behind my classmates, because I did well earlier on and could study less.

shauncorleone ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:26:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't be afraid to take lessons or get a coach for things you want to improve on as an adult, even if it's just befriending someone who's better at something you're interested in. Everyone needs mentors.

I didn't have the same upbringing you describe, but I did develop a complex about needing to be independent and learning everything on my own, which is just foolish.

nemo_nemo_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:34:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That thing with the guitar is just weird. The kind of musical genius your dad was expecting is reserved for people like Beethoven.

pr1mus3 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:58:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm trying to overcome something similar, but it's just the academics, not music. What did you do to break the cycle?

FierceDeity_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:13:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Some of my teachers told me I am pretty gifted but I was never actually using it (so much potential!). I still got bad grades, haha. By that point I was in the lowest kind of school in Germany (we have 3 levels you can enter after 4th grade elementary school. I would have been able to do the third no problem). Well, it clicked at some point when I was 15 and I started actually listening to what the teacher had to say. The stuff stayed in my brain and I could actually apply it! I graduated with an A grade, like 95%.

Man I wish someone had helped me be that way when I was still in elementary school. And actually made me learn... My parents had mid range grades and the grades I got were always normal to them.

In the end I did a full recovery, went to doing an apprenticeship after doing the 2nd level of school (there's a second chance to do it after the first level), then did third level (another "secondary" way) with another A grade. Now I am going into university to study.

Good to know you also recovered from stupid idiot youth syndrome

I don't know what made me be really bad in elementary school. But thinking about it now, I think it was partly my hyperactivity (maybe I had ADHD?). I was jittering most of the time and holding that back was one of my most important achivements. I still very often have the need to jitter my knee or straight out windmill my legs below the table. I can't sit still.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:58:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is me to a T

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:14:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A lot of the same here, only I still haven't quite gotten over it. Instead I pick things up, and if I start to fail or worry about failing, my brain just tells me that the thing is so dismally boring, I'll simply die if I ever touch it again. I feel like a complete failure.

standrew5998 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:53:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm going to take your story as something of a cautionary tale, because I've been dealing with the same shit. Just finished High School, going to college tomorrow, and I'm worried I'm going to fail if I don't get it right the second I walk in the door.

For years everyone I know told me that I have "natural talent," and that having to try was the sign of it not being important enough to pursue. "If it's too hard, you're not meant to do that." Advanced Classes, Band, Computer Science, Robotics...I only started to get better when they finally told me if I just made straight A's, I could do whatever I want, and they'd back off my life. You better Goddamn believe I made straight A's.

Now comes college. I can't afford to fail here. I need something I can point to and say "I did that." I'm trying desperately to escape the shadow of my parents, and that begins with doing something my father never could. So thanks a ton for what you said, I guess.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:39:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Luckily with college you don't have to share your grades with your parents!

Unfortunately having the idea that you "can't fail" might be putting more stress on you than you will already have. I doubt future employers will be wanting to hear about the grades you got and will be more concerned with whether you got the degree or not. I hope you won't tire yourself out thinking you need to be the best. I think what is most important is having a thorough understanding of the material, pacing yourself and taking care of yourself.

iamtoastshayna69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:56:52 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am the same way, I grew up being told I was extremely smart and never applied myself in school because it was so easy. Now I am working on my Bachelor's in psychology and down to my last 4 classes. They are getting a little too hard for me and I don't even know what to do because no one taught me what to do if I don't know something. I feel like I am losing my mind because I don't immediately know the answers.

EmperorEsquizo ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 07:27:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus, there's a serious link between telling kids early on they're super smart, and the constant self loathing that comes later on. Seen it out of myself, everyone I know that got the same routine, and even in this damn thread.

barktreep ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 07:01:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I used to do all math problems in my head, and was kicking ass all through middle school and early high school. Then calculus rolls around and I realize I have no ducking clue how to actually learn math and write out solutions.

Arcanewarhol ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 12:45:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This happened to me in high school calculus. I was able to get through calc 1 in college, but my trig knowledge was so poor because I never studied and retained it that working backwards in calc 2 destroyed me.

And that's the story about how I am not a Physicist like I wanted to be.

Cliffracers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cut out that fowl language.

Saxyphone ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 05:44:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here. College was a huge eye opener that I won't just be able to coast through life giving minimal effort. My parents basically made me believe I was some kind of pseudo-genius and that I would never have to work as hard as the other kids.

Arcanewarhol ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 12:43:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

YUUUUUP.

Also having to learn that the path to success is not a straight line from point A to point B. There will always be hardships, failures, U-turns, forks and obstacles in your way and just because it's taking a lot longer to reach your goals (or you end up achieving different goals) doesn't make you a failure at life.

Saxyphone ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:49:03 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thats a fantastic way to sum up how my college experience went. I started school as an electrical engineering student, and after my first year I was put on academic probation, and dropped out a semester later. This, compounded by a lot of personal issues, caused me to spiral into a really bad depression where I felt like I was a total failure, and had ruined my life. Now im back in school, studying to be a teacher, something I love doing far more than any engineering work, and im happy.

I felt bad at first because its taken me so much longer to get where I want to be, but everyone has their own path to follow, and they will always be different.

Arcanewarhol ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:31:02 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a fairly similar experience. I did not drop out but I changed schools 3 times. Death of a family member, academic probabtion, 2 or 3 changes to my major and at the end of all of it my GPA was mediocre which a lot of people don't understand that it can limit your opportunities for years to come.

I'm glad you found something you truly enjoy and can be happy about doing! Just try to be like the teacher in the post on the front page right now with the new homework policy! I think all of our entire school-age lives would have been far more pleasant and less overwhelming had our teachers had similar policies.

OldRapGroup ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:55:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same.

madmaz186 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:01:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm going through this now and it sucks realizing you're all of a sudden starting from square one.

RussIsWatchinU ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 07:49:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep. I've decided that when I have kids I'll never give them the "you're smarter than them" or "you're a genius" speeches. That among other things gave me a feeling of superiority, and I started to look down on people. Hell, I'm still having trouble adjusting to that and I'm 25. It's just something I've been working on changing for the last 7 or so years.

I mean, sure there are plenty of people who have proven that they're not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but not forcing people into that category immediately feels so dumb. I honestly hate that about myself.

manamachine ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 13:10:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, the comparison was bad for me. My mother always made sure to tell me I was better than the other kids, like life is all a fucking competition.

stillphat ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 05:15:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Teach me

DemeaningSarcasm ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 06:03:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sports was the way that i figured it out. Grinding and drilling are boring and tedious affairs. And weight lifting is boring and tiresome as well. And for crying out loud, the ice bath is torturious. But you put all that work in so that come game day, you can perform. Getting better in this situation is tangible.

The problem for me was that success wasn't tangible. I didn't care about the letter grade. I just didn't want to get yelled at. So it's really hard to link working hard with achieving success in schoolwork. At least with sports, the results were tangible.

procrastination55 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 06:10:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like sports solidified my laziness for me

DemeaningSarcasm ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:13:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To each their own but why?

procrastination55 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 07:09:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I realized that working out harder just doesn't feel good, and I wanted to avoid it; and when I caught a touchdown in a game, it never felt like the result of training, but more like I just ran a good route and made a good catch.

I feel like my relative success while trying to do as little as possible reinforced my already present habits

Esarel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:39:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I score points in basketball it's never about my training. It's about how quickly I can get the ball out of my hands because I don't like drilling or working hard for points. I score a good amount because I can shoot well, but God do I ever feel like a lazy shit after game day.

KingMob9 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 07:06:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This.

While not exactly telling me that I'm a SS, I was told from a young age how damn smart I am. And you know what ? I think I did. But it made me grow up to be an arrogant fuck who judge other people primarily by their intelligence.

Adding to that (and going back to the thread), I still need to unlearn the โ€œIf everyone you knew jumped off a bridge, would you too?โ€ thing. Yes mom, I fucking would do and embrace the conformity instead of killing myself swimming against the stream.

Tortferngatr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:38:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lightsandcandy ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:58:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm working through that too. I wrote a graduation speech I wish I'd heard. https://medium.com/@lightsandcandy/good-evening-graduates-860a84a89fd6#.fx296jtht

GodsAreTired ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Great job on this! So much of the school system feels entirely fake and this feels real, I hope some real school kids get to hear it

lightsandcandy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:12:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks!

I would love to give it but I doubt any administration would let me :P

LHOOQatme ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 05:41:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So fucking relatable it hurts. As she got the confirmation that I have an elevated IQ (yup, she got me tested), she also made so much pressure for me to be the best and did so much effort for me not to brag about success that now I have no self-esteem

Mandamelon ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:24:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I worry very much that something like this is going to happen to me but I just can't bring myself to work hard when I do so well without really trying.

justablueguy ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:51:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do things that aren't easy for you. Don't let that convenience pave your way for what you enjoy, because then you're just doing what's easy and it's hard to be passionate about something that's easy.

ledditlememefaceleme ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:37:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And me

placervillian97 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:23:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Truth

moopmoopmeep ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:28:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh man. I'm trying to prevent my sister from screwing up my nephew regarding this. My sister is indeed really smart, but no one ever encouraged her in high school, family and teachers told her she was actually kind of stupid, and it was by accident that she went to college. Once she was in college and removed from our fucked up family and shitty school system, she realized that she was actually really good at learning and quite smart. She's trying to prevent that from happening to my nephew but she's swung the pendulum wayyyyyyy too far in the other direction. Don't get me wrong, the kid is really fucking smart and a quick learner (at least when it comes to "book smart" things). She's gotten him tested for every special ability under the sun, shopped around to put him in super advanced classes, turned into that annoying parent that teachers probably hate. Now my 13 yr old nephew is 3 years ahead in math, but is a pretentious douche who looks down on everyone around him, and thus has no friends. I think my sister realized that she did a lot of damage though. She pulled him out of his special gifted school last year, and put him in normal school with normal kids, and is forcing him to sign up for at least 1 sport or social club so he can figure out how to make friends and not be an asshole.

spiritbx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:01:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But you should be given anything you want because you have a blog!

iFreilicht ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:28:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes! I was always told that I am so very smart because I scored great on IQ tests, so I never studied for a single exam and then got sad when I had bad grades. Now in Uni it haunts me because studying is hard and I never really learned how to do it.

robertx33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:18:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Book mindset helped a lot, I realized I was never "smart", i just liked studying when and as a result i got good grades. But as soon as i had to keep the smart image, studying became scary because of failure. So i didn't study at all, but only to pass, there, now i have an excuse, i'm not dumb, i just didn't try hard enough!

Thank god i got myself out of that.

nytheatreaddict ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:18:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Still working on that. All my life I was told I was smart. Did pretty good on the SATs. Then everything went to shit. Now I feel like I'm an idiot. I was never that smart. I just got lucky and managed to coast through everything. It's just so incredibly frustrating. I'm looking for jobs and thinking that I know I can do just more than retail, but I don't feel good enough for anything else at the same time- I'm just not smart enough.

Kalkaline ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:30:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well really you are a special little snowflake, but it's a blizzard out there. Showing up and working hard makes being smart and talented worthwhile.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:38:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm still struggling with this right now, I fucked up multiple years of school because of this and struggling to get back on top of it. Gave me depression and anxiety and I practically live in my room

thereaderrunt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:46:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents and teachers always celebrated me as an ideal student but the amount of pressure that I created subconsciously for myself to keep up to their standards and expectations has actually seriously damaged my mental health. They think I'm naturally smart and naturally able, but I'm really not. In primary school I was in the lower bands until I worked hard enough to learn the stuff I rose. Starting high school I was placed in the lower or middle sets, and then got placed into the higher and highest ones only when I spent every night working on the material and improved my knowledge and ability. GCSEs and A-Levels I used to stay late at school, A-Levels I stayed until crazy times like 9pm, and worked on revision or coursework.

Now I'm at uni, still attempting to be great, but I've lost a lot of the direction and support I found in teachers. I'm now doing all the work by myself like I did before, but with no indication as to whether I'm doing things right or not until my work is marked. It's terrifying for me. And I hate it.

octopodesoctopi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:15:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i was always told how smart i am. now my self-esteem is ridiculously low.

Dimovar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:04:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wish I could upvote this twice. I'm still learning how to actually apply myself and work through things properly

CynilAli ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:21:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus christ what? Fuck me, this comment thread actually just taught me this...

rattensaka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There it is, the one mistake I feel my mom made raising me.

RiverwoodHood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:39:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am 27 and still working on this.

I was pretentious as all fuck, thinking I was some undiscovered genius. and most of my "deep" writings from then belong on /r/cringe hahaha

now the traits I take pride in are kindness and openness and hard work. even if someone is intellectually gifted... who gives a fuck? unless they are producing content that inspires or moves

and what is a smart person without soul or heart? just a robot if you ask me

ExbronentialGrowth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:15:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is a really important lesson that can be used for some quality growth in the next generation.

A major problem is how so many parents focus on encouraging the end result instead of the process. "You got an A? You're so smart" is much different than "you got an A? You worked really hard". And it teaches an entirely different fundamental understanding of the process to kids.

Kids who are treated with the second mentality are also more likely to persevere even when they have failed, because they attach more meaning to the work process. The ones who learn the first mentality believe their end result is dictated by their innate abilities, and this swings the other way, too. "I got [grade] because I am inherently [good or talented/bad or not talented] at [activity]." Then the logic is used to define the reverse, I.e. I am bad at math because I got a D.

And people will actually tell you this and leave it at that. They'll say they worked hard, but you'll usually come to find that they just believed their innate limitations stopped their growth and it was impossible.

This is a very American belief, though I'm sure there are some examples elsewhere.

Chlorure ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:20 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Heh, still beats being called a fuck up all the time

idownvotestuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:23:57 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Have a hug, you worthless prick >:D<

scribblerscrabbler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:52 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've been reading reddit for a little while now and this actually made me tear up, and finally join. I'm 45 and a lot of this thread is how I was raised. Screaming alcoholic pushy father who threatened physical abuse if I didn't get all A's, or couldn't do a lay-up properly. Mom had me tested at some place when I was 3 or 4 and I was reading on a 6th grade level. High school was so boring and easy I think I took a book home one time during my senior year, and was one of the top seven in my class, also graduating with honors. Mom, to deal with this (and his abandonment) worked or went to church, where she became the music minister. I learned how to play drums and eventually piano, joining them permanently on stage for a regularly televised TV program when I was about 14. I don't even want to talk about all that went into that because I'll just come off as a braggart probably. But yeah, the failure if it's not instant thing... that has plagued me all my life. I thought i was the only person in the world who f'd things up this bad until I started reading this. I mean, taking IQ tests and scoring in 130-140 range, but all I can hear is my dad's voice calling me stupid, incompetent, lazy... et cetera, because he and mom were star athletes in high school and I just didn't care about it that much, if at all. Like Saxyphone says college was an eye opener. Even though I was good at math and was considering being a math teacher, my experience was like barktreep's. This is just too much, maybe I'll come back and write some more later.

eMeSsBee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

sir tips and tricks sir

meLIZZZZZma ยท 2610 points ยท Posted at 00:24:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That all aspects of sexuality are disgusting and should make you feel guilty even thinking about it.

[deleted] ยท 778 points ยท Posted at 03:08:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a book given to me at about 12 with very 'modest' illustrations. Covers on a couple, lady is now pregnant, etc. That was the extent of my sex ed. I knew nothing until my mid 20s! But yeah, I get it! Limited knowledge of sex and an implanted fear of it definitely made things weird as an adult.

[deleted] ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 04:46:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i feel like my highschool was some kind of weird outlier to all of this. rural texas school in early 2000's, and we had what was called health class. pretty sure it was a mandatory class as well. it covered info on reproductive organs, sexually transmitted diseases, etc. and i even remember us watching some kind of movie (wasn't a documentary, was like a legit movie) where a girl gets raped/abused by her boyfriend. i think the point of the movie was to highlight dangers of peer pressure or whatever.

[deleted] ยท -31 points ยท Posted at 05:55:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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ThatGodCat ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 06:21:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You obviously didn't go to a catholic school with a catholic control freak family but ok

[deleted] ยท -24 points ยท Posted at 07:06:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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ScrooLewse ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 07:34:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The irony is that you're calling him an idiot after arguing a different point from what you made him respond to.

ThatGodCat ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 07:13:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Okay, you never said that this isn't the norm, you said the stereotype doesn't exist. Doesn't exist as in gone. Which it is not. Which is what I said.

If that really set you off to the point of calling me an idiot I think you need to go take a breather or something 'cause that is way more hostile than necessary.

Dongalor ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 06:47:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It wasn't an outlier. What you described is the norm all over the rural U.S.

It kind of is an outlier now. Things in Texas have gotten less progressive in a lot of ways. My own High School has taken some very deliberate steps backwards in the nearly two decades since I graduated.

In the late 90s we got comprehensive sex education and no one even mentioned creationism in biology. Abstinence only fear-mongering is now the norm for sex ed and intelligent design is the default setting even in AP biology. Things are a lot more politicized (and polarized) than they were even a decade ago, and that shit has affected curriculum.

aggielax7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:30:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What are you talking about? I took AP biology in a Texas high school 4 years ago and creationism was literally never mentioned. We learned from the Campbell's biology book just like any college course.

Dongalor ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:25:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There may still be some variation across districts. My buddy's kid was ranting about how his AP biology teacher was forced to 'teach the controversy'.

[deleted] ยท -21 points ยท Posted at 07:04:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Dick_Dandruff ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:55:54 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mechanical engineer drinking on reddit and arguing, talk about breaking stereotypes.

Zephyrkittycat ยท 160 points ยท Posted at 04:40:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I went to a catholic school...My sex ed consisted of

  1. if you have an IUD it will fail and your baby will be born with the copper wire stuck in its head

  2. contraceptives fail and if you have an abortion your a horrible person

3.Pam Stenzel

Luckily my parents (read: my mother, dad was way to awkward to talk about that kinda stuff. He only tried once and that was when I got my first serious boyfriend who was 2 years older than me and "17 year old boys only want one thing") was pretty open about sex and any questions I had. It wasn't until this year my parents realised how bad my sex ed was when I had to ask my mother if it was true that IUDs got stuck in babies heads. She laughed.

plaid_banana ยท 102 points ยท Posted at 06:28:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I went to Catholic school as well. Our instruction consisted of something called Sexually Mature Aware Responsible Teens (SMART) and a video series of Christopher West's lectures called Theology of the Body. It was abysmal.

SMART assumed that we were at least aware of condoms, hormonal birth control, and abortion, but it stated that all birth control was abortion. The presenters also encouraged (read: coerced) us to sign an abstinence pledge card, and said that we should abstain not only from sex (all sex, because anything other than PIV in the context of marriage is a grave sin) until marriage, we should also abstain from so much as kissing until then.

By the time we got to Christopher West's shit four years later, I was fairly disenchanted (but no less incredibly sheltered) about the whole thing. I tuned most of it out. What sticks is the idea that men think about sex every seven seconds (presented as fact) and that women are therefore responsible for being modest and not leading men to sin. And the idea that men are drawn to porn, but women are also drawn to a kind of emotional pornography, so that's to be avoided.

I learned a lot more once I was out of high school, thanks in part to internet resources and in part to some very patient and much more knowledgeable sexual and romantic partners.

Almost a decade after graduating high school, I work as a high school custodian (public school, different town). I happened to notice two papers on the health teacher's desk the other day while I was cleaning. The first was a district memo about actively accepting LGBTQ+ kids. The second was an outline for the semester's curriculum, which included various forms of birth control, STD/avoidance/treatment info, and actual factual information about bodies.

I legit teared up a little because I was so happy to see that kids are actually getting good sex ed. Nobody should have to endure that sort of fear-mongering and hatred.

smikims ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 08:40:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah this was basically me except we didn't have to watch Christopher West's whole video series, just a few clips here and there. One of the funnier analogies was that men are like microwaves (always ready to go) and women are like ovens (need some time to warm up).

Oh and I bought into all of this until halfway through college.

Micro-wave ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 10:52:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just realising my old pastor stole all of his material from this dude...

Masonity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:05:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One of the funnier analogies was that men are like microwaves (always ready to go) and women are like ovens (need some time to warm up).

Is this not the trend? Men generally need minimal foreplay to be ready for sex (although they benefit from more of course) while women usually need a bit of foreplay before sex will be any fun at all?

Most penises are quick to get erect while most vaginas take some time to self lubricate no?

wantanclan ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:51:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No.

Lieto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:18 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No.

Zephyrkittycat ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 06:48:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

exactly. My brother went to a state school and learnt way more about sex than I ever did. I left high school 5 years ago and I still have hang ups about sex. We were taught that it was sinful and disgusting. Its made my sex life with my partner way more difficult than it should be. I hadn't even seen porn till I was 19/20. It infuriates me that schools get away with not teaching students accurate information about both hertorsexual and homosexual sex.

hitops1 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 14:13:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They should have shown porn, which is clearly accurate sexual information.

Joba_Fett ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:25:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Teacher, is it required to have FOUR black men shit on your chest after the gangbang or will only three suffice?"

Zephyrkittycat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:48 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lol the worst part is I would have actually learnt more about sex than what they gave me...

[deleted] ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 05:02:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit Pam Stenzel. She's a lunatic.

Zephyrkittycat ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 06:20:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

yep. here's the kicker, I live in New Zealand. Instead of teaching us how dirt and sinful sex was they should have told us things like pee after sex to avoid UTI's (found out that one the hard way) and antibiotics mean your pill won't work (a fair few fellow students found that one out the hard way). Seriously is fucked up 0/10 would not recommend.

himit ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 09:08:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

antibiotics mean your pill won't work (a fair few fellow students found that one out the hard way).

If this is true for the pill you're on, it says so in the brochure. School did teach you how to read!

Zephyrkittycat ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 10:44:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It would have been helpful for the school to cover it. I went on the pill for acne and painful periods. I had no clue that antibiotics stopped the pill from working. No one, not even my doctor told me that antibiotics stopped the pill from working. I was 15, everyone assumed I wasn't sexually active and you can guarantee I wasn't going to read the tiny book in the box. I'm not saying that it wasn't my responsibility to be informed because it was. But if schools are going to take the time to tell me that contraceptives are the devil they can take the time to tell me I shouldn't have unprotected sex when on antibiotic s.

himit ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 11:10:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like if they're telling you contraceptives are the devil, they probably don't want you to think they might work if used correctly.

I went on it at 17 because my periods turned me into a raving bitch. You can bet your arse that I memorized the entire fucking booklet as soon as I started having sex.

Zephyrkittycat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:51 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I didn't start having sex till I was 18 and by then I knew everything I needed to know about the pill so that was fine.

In a weird way my boyfriend between 15 and 18 was totally against sex before marriage. So that worked out well for me in that case. But it led to an interesting relationship because he thought I would still some how magically get pregnant from just fooling around.

I think schools should have a third party (so they can be unbiased) teach sex ed. In NZ we have family planning who provide a lot of information and support for those trying and not trying to get pregnant as well as prevention of STDs. Its fine if you want to opt out, that's your choice. But no one should make kids feel like sex and their sexuality is wrong.

Sonja_Blu ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:29:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's honestly your doctor or pharmacist's responsibility if it's anyone's. It's not up to the school to teach you the possible side effects of medication you may or may not be on, that's ridiculous. They need to tell you it's an option and that's about it, at that point you can go ask your doctor if you need more info.

heyfolksletsparty ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:48:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was in a similar situation, got on the pill to treat my horrific periods and was on it for YEARS. I am 22 and one of my friends casually mentioned using conforms while she was on antibiotics... I had absolutely no idea.

Zephyrkittycat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:11:45 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So many people don't know this, its how my cousin had her first kid at 17. No one told her the pill wouldn't work. When one of my lesbian friends started experimenting with guys I made a point to explain this one to her (along with several other things).

bschug ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 10:24:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But most people treat medicine brochures like software EULAs.

himit ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 11:12:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Which is a shame and very dumb. Medicine isn't magic, read the damn manual to make sure you can use it correctly.

The only workaround could be in dispensing pharmacists had to read out the list for you and make you sign something saying you heard and understood, but that's just a bit too nanny state for me.

BPCR_throwaway ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:58:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Read your goddamn side effects. READ IT!

Don't come into our offices after something that's clearly written happens. Read the side effects! We give you a helpful little sheet too that doesn't have the text mouse-sized.

Sincerely,

Every Doctor

bschug ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:30:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah absolutely. I always read them carefully, and sometimes I decide that the risk isn't worth it (especially painkillers). I just know way to many people who blindly trust their doctors.

That's how my grandma died. She had a regular bladder infection that was treated with antibiotics. Then she got something else against the side effects of the antibiotics. Then she got painkillers and antidepressants. Then she got other pills for the side effects of those. In the end she was on more than ten different medications, prescribed by three different doctors, which was too much for her liver.

Sonja_Blu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:30:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pharmacists where I am always ask if you've had the medication before, and even if you say yes they recite the important points anyway.

Sonja_Blu ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:26:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What is with this pee after sex thing on reddit? People are obsessed with it! Maybe if you're prone to UTIs this might be a good idea, but it's nowhere near a universal truth. The first time I ever heard about it was on reddit and it just keeps getting recycled as though it's some truism. I cannot physically pee after sex, at least for a while, and I'm certainly not jumping up immediately afterwards to run to the bathroom. I am 31 and I have never had any sort of bladder infection, yeast infection, UTI, anything. I have regular sex and have done since I was 13. I don't think this needs to be taught in sex ed.

Zephyrkittycat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:19:20 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am susceptible to UTI's, ESPECICIALLY after sex. I was told this by a doctor. If you can't pee after sex and don't get UTI's then I don't think its a problem but I would still tell everyone to do it. Some people never get UTI's (and they are very lucky) but imo you don't want to find out the hard way that you are susceptible to UTI's. I got one once when I was like 5 and then never had them again until I started being sexually active. It wasn't until I went to the emergency room with one so bad I couldn't actually control my bladder that a doctor actually told me.

I just wish someone had told me long before I need to know.

Eizziljam ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:23:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's crazy!! I also went to a catholic school and while they did say abstinence was the best way to prevent pregnancy and std's (which is true) we learnt about all sorts of contraception and all the facts! I did meet some really sheltered Catholic kids through a youth group I attended who had been told really horrible things about abortions and babies being torn limb from limb or aborted foetuses being used in age defying moisturiser.... Basically we were taught to wait until we were ready and what options we had... There was so encouragement of pre-marital sex but there were no threats against it either.

Zephyrkittycat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:04 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

they would tell us things like the failure rates and then emphasis that this was only when they were used correctly, implying we wouldn't use them correctly and get pregnant so the best thing to do was just not do it. Even in this fucked up version of sex ed we still had parents who took their daughters out of it (I went to an all girls school).

Your school seemed to do better than mine!

Ragnarandsons ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:40:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I also went to a catholic school, but in Australia (consider my self an atheist, though). We had a fairly normal sex ed, we were even tested on the subject as part of our biology units in year 8 and year 10. At no stage were there any educational interventions from the Catholic Church.

It scares me at how puritanical the systems are in the US (I'm assuming). Is this what it's like across the country as a whole, or are these isolated cases?

Zephyrkittycat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:20 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I went to school in New Zealand, we had a sort of sex ed in Biology but this was more about anatomy than safe sex. We had to label diagrams of the reproductive system and stuff like that. They talked about fertilization and a little bit of development (think mitosis and meiosis) but that was about it.

I have no idea if the rest of the catholic schools in NZ had a similar experience but that was mine. My brother went to a state school and he had a completely different experience of Sex ed. They even had wooden penis' for them to practice putting condoms on, of course they were all like 15 and treated as a joke (see who could put it on the fastest etc). But at least they knew how. I didn't know until I had to use one.....which can kinda kill a moment. Would have saved me a lot of stress if I had had his version of it.

sean7755 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:18:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh my god, I remember Pam Stenzel. She came to my school once; she's a fucking lunatic.

Zephyrkittycat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:13:45 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

its almost a shame that we didn't get to see her in person. We openly mocked the video the whole way through because it was so ridiculous.

sean7755 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:43:17 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've actually seen her twice: once at some middle school religious retreat, and again a few years later when she visited my HS.

I actually believed her for awhile after he said something about how all premarital sex will lead to incurable diseases. That's a real, real fucked up thing to tell someone.

Zephyrkittycat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:23 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can't even begin to imagine the amount of damage she has caused to young people.

Sonja_Blu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:20:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit. I went to public school but my best friend went to Catholic school and I don't think they were allowed to teach shit like that :/ I know for a fact that they have to abide by the standard curriculum now at least (although I think this was always the case) because the curriculum has changed and a bunch of Catholic and Muslim parents went crazy.

Zephyrkittycat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:03 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have no idea to be honest if it is a part of our national curriculum (live in NZ). I would hope so but I also know a whole lot of people would loose their shit if it was.

Sonja_Blu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:12:00 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm in Ontario in Canada and it's definitely part of the curriculum here. I think it should be like that everywhere.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:32:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That website made me want to cut my eyes out with a rusty teaspoon

Zephyrkittycat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:28:33 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's actually rage inducing.

ShadowPhoenix22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:30:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Who's Pam Stenzel? Yeah, I'm sorry for that, that's just wrong and overly opinion based. I disagree with abortions for a bunch of reasons, but they're not necessarily evil doing it. Contraceptives maybe help, maybe don't, I don't know. But idea that they just fail isn't logical. I hope things're easier now.

Zephyrkittycat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:27:42 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She's an abstinence only advocate. She works in the US going to schools and basically scares students into abstaining from sex until marriage. She's a lunatic. They made us watch her vhs lectures every year in highschool.

They taught us that abortions were a sin (which is fine, that's what the church believes). But I think they could have taken a better approach to it. The only method of contraception they said was ok was the one where you use your temperature and stuff to track your ovulation cycle, even then they didn't give us any information on how to actually do it.

My school was pretty terrible in a number of ways. Was in the local news more than once. As I got older I leant more about sexuality and sex so things are pretty ok now. I still have some hang ups but that's ok, my partner is pretty understanding :)

ShadowPhoenix22 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:16:02 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ah, I'm sorry about that. Shame there's people that close minded. One of our Religion teachers actually asked us, I believe, about not having sex, though did inform us, all the same, about the protections, with our Social Personal and Health Education teacher teaching us about the diseases, erections etc.

Zephyrkittycat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:16 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If this is how it was taught then that would have been fine, I'd have zero issues with that.

ShadowPhoenix22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:23 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Any reason you'd be ok with that, but not the other? I agree more an open minded, keep protected, be sure, no means no and other info kinda approach.

Zephyrkittycat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:44:11 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well I think its fine for teachers to teach what the church believes, as it is a catholic school. However I believe in people making informed choices. As a school they have a responsibility to educate their students, and to educate them about all their options. wheather that's in religion, health, or science class its up to the school. As long as they do it. In my schools' case they treated sexual health as an absolute, i.e If you have sex you will get pregnant and burn in hell so don't have sex. That's not educating.

ShadowPhoenix22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:29 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Very true, that's a bit too scare, fear mongering and not fair or on.

chronolockster ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 07:21:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

At least your parents did something. I never got any sort of talk. Just inferred what it was from other kids in elementary and googled the rest when I hit middle school.

[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:19:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You got a book? I started dating a drama nerd when I was 15 and was assumed I would get knocked up and drop out of school. That was the extent of MY sex ed!

P8zvli ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 04:11:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I never got the talk, my parents just handed me a christianized book about sex and expected me to read it.

Why the fuck would I read a book about sex? Up to that point I had it drilled into my head that even reading about sex was a sin, and now they expect me to read a book about sex by myself? It was embarrassing.

NivlacSupreme ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:05:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I asked a question and was given an actual book that had actual facts.

uber1337h4xx0r ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 10:25:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Huh. I had super sheltering parents and I figured out the gist of how mating works from some pet care books (though figuring out cloaca = penis/vagina was something that took a while to figure out).

Joba_Fett ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:29:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait, you mean to say I DON'T have a cloaca?

Andolomar ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 07:10:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shit, in my country we learned the anatomy of the sex organs and we were tested on that in class.

After eight weeks of sex ed in a country with one of the best education systems on the planet (then, not now after Gove), half the class still couldn't work out the difference between the labia minoris and the labia majoris, and some girls thought the scrotum was theirs.

That's what you get when your parents don't let you do your homework. ( อกยฐ อœส– อกยฐ)

MJWood ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 10:00:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In my school we studied the entire human body in biology class and when we got to the sex organs the teacher explained this was just another biology lesson and taught us how it worked. I think that's a good approach.

Invisibleufo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:02:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks to the internet I knew everything when I was a teenager!

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:22:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad literally threw the book at me when walking past my room I looked up some issues and questions and the school taught sex ed covered the rest.

RockStarState ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:07:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I would have rather not been told anything than get the constant shaming I did about sex.

dizdi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:48:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I remember that book! But get this- my mother "gave" it to me by LEAVING IT IN A DRAWER FOR ME TO FIND. Seriously. So I just stole glances here and there when she wasn't looking...

dorkdiariesisforboys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Now I feel really lucky I knew everything there was to know (including 'orgasm') when I was 9.

hoilori ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I learned everything from japanese tentacle porn.

pinotblanc ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 03:53:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep. I'm married and have been with my SO for 4 years and I still feel guilty for having sex with him sometimes.

MDMA_Evangelist ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 05:01:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You might consider therapy. I had a girlfriend for 4 years who never managed to entirely get past guilt about sex and it definitely had an impact on our sex life. It's really worth trying to work through. At the very least, be aware of when it's happening. Take a moment to recognize that feeling and where it's coming from. It's tough when it's so ingrained that you can't get past the feeling that shame is the proper response, but it can be done.

I switched to my alternate account for this post, and the username has a lot to do with how I got past it. For me, it was shame about bisexuality. I'd been struggling with that for at least 15 years, and the right chemical in the right setting basically fixed that in one or two sessions. Got me past a lot of body image issues, too.

pinotblanc ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 10:09:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I also have a lot of body shame and low self esteem. I'm currently in therapy for other stuff my parents did but i never considered it for this. Thank you!

madsci ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 04:47:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother was a medical professional and she could talk about things clinically. She was also raised in an extremely conservative and religious household and prided herself on getting past that and being reasonably progressive. So we had the talk early and there was never any overt shame attached to it, but that religious upbringing always somehow managed to show through and gave the impression that it still was something to be a little ashamed of.

I've got friends who were raised by hippie parents, who would go naked around the house or who, when walked in on during sex, would stop to explain what was going on and how it worked. What they got out of it was vastly different than what I got out of a couple of 10-minute discussions over the span of many years.

I know it's hard to stray too far from what you were raised with, so I don't fault her there. I've been way more open with my kids, but still not nearly to the same degree as those hippie parents.

Khab00m ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 06:16:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Those hippie parents need to stop rubbing their dongs in our faces.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:27:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Interesting! My mom worked for Planned Parenthood, and although she talked to me about sex early, often, made sure I understood everything, etc., she still may have been somewhat clinical. She herself was raised by Catholics, albeit very progressive ones. Still somehow the idea that people shouldn't really enjoy sex too much, or that overt sexuality was somehow frowned upon managed to shine through. I always thought this was sort of a unique paradox, but maybe it's more common than I think.

Vanvidum ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:52:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

...Is your mother my mother? That's almost exactly what happened with me. My mother wasn't sexually repressed, but was super clinical about it all given her experience as a nurse. Hell, when my sister started dating a guy seriously in high school, her first concern was birth control and protection.

madsci ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:15 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That does seem to be a pattern. It's one thing to be able to talk clinically about sex and another to actually be able to instill sex positive values.

I knew about birth control when I was a teenager, and even had access to a condom when I should have used it, but we'd never once talked about how and when to bring it up.

It's like human factors analysis. Used to be that if a plane crashed because the pilots screwed up, they'd just write it off as pilot error. And that's technically true, if the pilots hadn't screwed up the plane wouldn't have crashed. But now there's some acknowledgement that humans aren't infallible machines and you have to look at the circumstances that set them up to fail and try to fix those. It's not enough that the plane was mechanically sound and that the pilots had the knowledge required to keep it in the air. Similarly, you can't teach a kid how reproduction works and how birth control works and leave out the parts about communication and emotional states and expect that book knowledge is enough to get them through the rush of excitement, hormones, embarrassment, and uncertainty when the time comes.

ToThyneOwnSelfBeTrue ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 03:56:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I got in trouble for looking at "what makes you you" in fourth grade. Maybe they shouldn't have had it in the library.

Edit. This was in the seventies. Not the same science book on Amazon. It was about the difference between boys and girls. With pictures!

KrivenRaven ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:50:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Moby What?!

ghryzzleebear ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:22:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

True Story: I was so afraid of that word, that I read the title of that book as "Moby Rick"

Joba_Fett ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:32:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Call me burrrp Ishmael...

HardcaseKid ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 03:37:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair, most biological functions are pretty gross.

yogi89 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 05:20:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hope I can be a robot some day, I gross myself out

ZoomJet ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:20:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cybo123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:28:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Need an oil change?

Joba_Fett ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:33:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Patch that up with some searing hot resin?

d0nu7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:17:50 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I really hope so as well. Death fucking sucks.

Libramom72 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:59:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Seems as though a lot of parents taught that.

Zack1018 ยท 124 points ยท Posted at 01:33:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Conservative views on sexuality are the so pointlessly masochistic and unnecessary. Sex doesn't hurt anybody and would be pretty much always a net positive for everyone involved except people need to make such a big deal about it becomes something people kill themselves over.

And what is the point? At least murder and stealing and stuff have obvious reasons to discourage them. Sex is so harmless!

Frommerman ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 03:21:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, except for venereal diseases.

Which we are systematically wiping the fuck out, because fuck that shit. Humanity FTW.

blabgasm ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 04:53:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What makes you say that? HIV has only been around since the 50s, and that's nasty jazz as nothing! 1 in 4 has the herp. And bacterial STIs are becoming increasingly resistant. VD is alive and well, and here to stay!

Frommerman ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 05:17:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

HIV has been around for 50 years. In that time, we've managed to make it a totally treatable (albeit expensive) illness, downgraded from the horrific death sentence it was in the beginning. Herpes is bad, but not life threatening, and we are beginning to develop treatments for it as well. As for the rest? Sure, antibiotic resistance is a thing, but that just means you keep trying antibiotics until one works. Very, very few bacteria are resistant to literally everything, and those tend to die out fast because antibiotic resistance genes come with evolutionary costs as well as benefits.

Morwoo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:53:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What are the evolutionary costs?

Frommerman ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:02:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Antibiotics work by targeting specific pieces of bacterial cell mechanics. If you think of bacteria as tiny machines, they literally throw a wrench in to the machines making the bacteria tick.

These machines were developed over billions of years to do everything they do as efficiently as possible. When an antibiotic attacks one of those machines, it's breaking something which has worked literally forever and is fairly well optimized. Antibiotic resistance is the cell developing a less efficient means to do the same thing which dodges whatever the antibiotic was breaking. Once the bacteria leave the environment where resistance was required, those bacteria become less well-suited for survival than bacteria which don't have the adaptation, and therefore antibiotic resistance dies out.

bukake_attack ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:29:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or bacteria start producing chemicals that bind with the antibiotic, inactivating it.

End result is the same though: the bacterium now needs to produce chemicals, costing it materiasl and energy.

0OKM9IJN8UHB7 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:26:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

It only took like 20 years between HIV being discovered, barely understood, and a death sentence to being something on par with having diabetes. "The herp" is so benign (and often asymptomatic BTW) it only became a concern when it was stigmatized to market treatment for it.

[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 03:40:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Sheepsharks ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:35:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or you have POIS, where the act itself hurts you.

madsci ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 04:49:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or vaginismus, which is frequently caused by anxiety about sex resulting from being raised with that kind of shame.

Meh_McSadsterson ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:59:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

....shit i think i have that... ๐Ÿ˜ข i had no idea that was a thing

yogi89 ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 05:21:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

At least that one sounds funny

Dr_WD_Gaster ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:36:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It really isn't when you experience it

theniceguytroll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not that you'd know, considering the fact that you're non-corporeal and technically don't exist.

Kitbixby ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:51:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Then I'm not sure my mother is a real conservative (a staunch republic last I checked) since she's pretty open about sex, an from what I understand, don't revolve around pain. I mean, she's also open about her dislike of gay marriage (not hatred of gay people, mind you--we've had this discussion). She thinks its definitely a good thing, and there's obviously pleasure to be had in it, but she believes that it is all the better once you are with someone special who truly loves you. As opposed to just going out into the world with "your legs spread open for anyone" as she's said on a few occasions.

Fionnlagh ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:25:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I'm still fucked in the head because of that. I don't know if I'll ever have a normal, healthy view of sex...

LittleGoblin ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:24:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I grew up in a conservative home and consider myself somewhat of a moderate and we were never taught that! I never really understood why conservatives get labels like that about sexuality and sex education. If anything I was taught it was a beautiful thing. A gift, really. Good and gifted things shouldn't be wasted or thrown about like it doesn't have value.

When I was in HS (went to a private school) they taught about sexuality as being like that too. Not this whole fear mongering that sex is evil. Shit it's fantastic! But it's intimate, and should be saved for when you get married (consummating a marriage and 2 people become 1 thing).

I have never met a conservative in my life that has never believed the same thing I do now.

[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:56:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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LittleGoblin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:36:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm from Ohio too. This is messed up for real

Head-Case ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Was this high school, by chance, next to a golf course?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:19:16 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Head-Case ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:06 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Huh. That sounds an awful lot like the curriculum I was put through. Just was curious!

whatsausername90 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:42:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You don't live in the bible belt, do you?

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:20:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I do, and had a similar experience.

Vanvidum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:45:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is pretty much how I remember my Catholic sex education from family, school, and church. It's quite possible to be sexually conservative without being sexually repressed or have a phobia about intimacy.

GodOfPlutonium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

its a holdover form before contraceptives birth control, and abortions, where that was the only way of population control, so it used to serve a purpose, but like all things, it eventually became a dogma, and is being held on to even though its useless

Khab00m ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

STDs, pregnancy, rape, etc.

SGrumpy ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sex doesn't hurt anybody

Might hurt the victim a bit though.

sage1700 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:54:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You know I realised that if you replaced all mentions of sex with weed this comment still makes sense.

whatsausername90 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:45:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was really happy to hear my conservative pastor give a sermon recently that "Sex is awesome, as long as it's in the right context. But really, it's awesome!"

beepbeepitsajeep ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:58:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Let's be real, have you ever been railing some chick and had a moment of clarity where you're like "I just have this appendage that gets hard, and I stimulate it by sticking it in this hole she just happens to have in her body, and then some stuff comes out, then we're done, that's so weird. Why does she have that hole??"

Uhnrealistic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:40:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just say that turns you on even more

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:42:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Catholic?

Hahadontbother ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:19:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here buddy. Soo much guilt tripping about anything sexual.

I hated myself for years. Then I realized i don't have to be a Christian. I just have to tell everyone I am so they shut up and leave me alone.

BirthdayFunTimez ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:31:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm a girl who just started my first relationship with another girl. I'm into and excited to try new things, and she is extremely sexperienced. Even though I've never been happier about my sex life and I haven't been religious for years, having this taught to me has made me have to call of sex for the night more times than I like.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:58:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I never explicitly got taught this but it was sort of implied a lot. I don't now if it's their fault I am the way I am now though, the moment I found out what sex was I thought "that's disgusting" and I've never changed my mind. Must be more to do with my personality or something, idk haha

iknowdanjones ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:17:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yup. As a guy, I was told that if I thought "impure" thoughts about a girl, then in God's eyes, I have raped her.

My wife is amazed that I didn't grow up to be a sex-crazed deviant.

Dorfalicious ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:50:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you have sex before marriage...well let's just say I've been feeling guilty for a long time about having sex. My mom worked at the health departments STD clinic. Sex before marriage is 'wrong' well I'm almost 32 and never been married but I lost my virginity to a man I loved when I was 18. Would I have it any other way? No. I was lucky to be in love. It's still 'wrong' in my mothers eyes and she doesn't approve...15 YEARS later smh

natural-fibers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:57:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom gives me shit because I want to live with someone and get to know them and see if I truly want to spend the rest of my life with them before getting married - because apparently it's sinful to do that and instead you should be constantly chaperoned, never be alone, and then only have sex when you're married, because of course this is a good way to get to know the person. /s

Gochu_Annihilator ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:15:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If it's okay, I'd like to recommend a book called PERV The Sexual Deviant in All of Us, by Jesse Bering. It's on amazon, maybe check it out and see if it's something you would be interested in reading.

faithle55 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:26:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents weren't responsible for this, and it wasn't all aspects of sexuality, but it's certainly something I learned early in life.

jencongreen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:45:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This. UGH. because I grew up in a cultish church.

pike184 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:01:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh jeez. My adolescence was a flurry of shame and confusion haha. It takes a long long time to learn to chill out about sex.

ImAFiggit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:35:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My childhood. Now I'm a certified sex freak, and know far more than any singular human being probably should.

My southern conservative Christian parents would probably have a fit I they knew half the things I've done.

Actually, they'd probably fall over dead from the ensuing heart attacks.

Kareus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

they arent?

hmyt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:52:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same, growing up I was basically taught that only prostitutes had girlfriends and boyfriends at my age, and then suddenly I'm in my mid 20s and still can't get my head around the fact that it's OK to be in a relationship.

guto8797 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:19:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But what about school, isn't sex end mandatory?

Here in Portugal it is, we started talking about it in like 3rd grade, then again in middle school and once again in highschool

Iceklimber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:22:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There was this post some months ago whose parents were so ashamed of sex, they had to do in-vitro fertilization.

YouJustDownvoted ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:22:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Still not over this and I don't even come from a religious background

Sovdark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:36:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The irritating part is it never quite goes away. I've been with my husband for 10 years and I still feel kind of guilty afterwards, like I'm suddenly unclean. It's really frustrating and likely the basis of my enjoyment of BDSM because if you're tied up you can't stop them from doing things to you. (Okay so you should always be able to but the illusion of no choice seems to counteract the illusion that sex=bad).

cqm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:48:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair, you should see what people do when they aren't instilled with the wrath of god

At least when people think they are being rebellious they make it a presentation

timeywimey207 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:07:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This. My first time was so awkward because I thought you just put it in. I didn't know there was activity to it. Luckily at the time I was dating this girl that was like, "alright, let's fix this." My sex ed was literally while I was laying naked with my girlfriend as she explained it to me. I was so embarrassed. She's still one of my best friends because she didn't treat me like I was some kind of needy pariah. On top of that she was a ballerina so once I figured it out we had lots of fun.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:19:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I instilled this into myself, the first time it came around for me to have sex, I was uncomfortable. My girlfriend at the time wanted it, and tried to help me along, but ultimately I was too uncomfortable about it to even start getting into any kind of mood. She pushed it a couple more times, and we did have sex eventually, but it was just strange to me and the whole time I'm thinking to myself that I wasn't really enjoying it, and I didn't. Nothing we did together sexually ever did anything for me other than make me uncomfortable. What's even worse is that I have a complete complex about people having previous partners, if someone has had sex with someone else, or multiple other people, I no longer find them as attractive and any possibility of sexual attraction is completely gone. My girlfriend cheated on me and left, taking my uncomfortable virginity with her, and now I'm disgusted by myself. I look at myself every day and find myself even more revolting than I usually do. I can't see me face without knowing that I've done something I could never forgive myself for. At this point, sex is turned off for me completely. I can't think about it without curling into a ball of depression and anxiety and uncomfortability.My mom tried to teach me that sex was a natural thing and that it's okay, but I just rejected it so much that I've ruined the best relationship I've ever been in and probably any other I'm potentially lucky enough to fall into.

jason_stanfield ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:13:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That was my home sex ed as well.

Plus, it was the 80s, so loads of guilt at home was reinforced by AIDS paranoia of Trumpian intensity.

It's not nearly on the level of rape, but I do consider that making children terrified of sex a form of sexual abuse, just as verbal abuse can be damaging. I still have a great deal of fear, anxiety, and dysfunction over sex.

ChoptankLive ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:50:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just wait till you marry someone raised by those people.

buttonforest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:02:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Stuff like this angers me, when we raise people to be afraid of or hate their own bodies.

Joba_Fett ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:20:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I still have a difficult time with this. Part of me thinks I'm addicted to sex and yet I am also absolutely terrified of anyone finding out I've done it or do anything sexual. I'm married and have a kid for crying out loud. It's very odd to have to balance between the "yay sex!" part of my brain and the "cutting my dick off will solve literally all my problems. Imma go get a knife" part. My wife and I have very different appetites so that doesn't help either. I simultaneously think sex is the greatest and worst thing ever.

TL;DR- It's not fun to be a hopeless pervert but also think your very existence is wrong since it's the product of sex.

roh8880 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:21:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I see you were raised Catholic.

poopwithjelly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:22:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's what makes it hot.

JarJarBinks590 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:39:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sexuality did not exist for me growing up. It was never once spoken about or referred to in any way. I picked things up purely from secondary school. It leaves me as the innocent minded guy who doesn't understand innuendos but I'm okay with that.

__nocturne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:09:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Catholic?

Rando_gabby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We were taught that sexuality was a beautiful gift from God, but that there was a time and place. For example, loud details about your exploits at a dinner party was not the time or place. But discussing things with your sisters so you all feel more comfortable with your different understandings? Actually ok.

That tends to inform a lot of my opinions. R rated movies because the graphicness furthers the story? Ok. Swearing in a play because it characterizes the place or the person? Ok.

I may not enjoy it, but we live in a world in that has these things and it's ok to discuss them.

Garglemint ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I really don't understand the logic of this one. Don't they want grandchildren at all?

TaylorS1986 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Conservative Catholic family?

TheCapitalLetter ยท 1767 points ยท Posted at 00:37:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I still have to unlearn many abusive lessons they gave me, like their approach to modesty resulting in never celebrating any achievements.

The world doesn't end if you aren't home at 2 am, women don't have to marry or have children. Its normal to hug the people you care about. They acted like it was very inappropriate.

Edit since some of you are asking, not Asian! White Latinos in USA Suburbia, not even religious =(

prefix_postfix ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 05:27:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The modesty thing, yes. As children, I always did much better in school than my sister. She's very smart, she's just not good at school and tests. I absolutely love standardized tests. I am so good at them. But I was always reminded not to brag, and to not celebrate doing really well in school, since it would make my sister feel bad for not doing as well. I'm sure there are things she did better than me that she couldn't celebrate. My parents were very into fairness. Which is a good lesson, I think. I certainly don't want to make anyone feel bad. But there must be a way to celebrate one kid's achievements without making the other feel bad, right?

euphemism_illiterate ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 05:56:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep. You get to have a sense of superiority, both for your achievements and the fact that you didn't brag.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:14:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Rotom-W ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:18:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

At least you didn't ruin your scores to feel normal. Being humble about it just means your a good person.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:21:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Rotom-W ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:04:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't be uncomfortable, be happy your smart.

If you don't brag you are fine.

People actually like being around people smarter than them.(unless they are a snob).

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:29:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 119 points ยท Posted at 02:16:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Who acts weird about hugging? I wouldn't be able to imagine a childhood without being able to practically crush my parents...

Eshlau ยท 113 points ยท Posted at 06:25:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have no memory of my father hugging me before the age of 26 when I moved across the country. I think the last time my mom hugged me was when I was around 4/5 or so. Sometimes now as an adult (30 y/o) they will hug me, maybe once a year or so, but it's kind of weird. My mom said she loved me for the first time back in November, my dad never has.

I have an inability to show affection beyond the boundaries of a romantic relationship. I always feel super uncomfortable, as a female, when I make friends with those girls who hug every time they see each other. Growing up with absolutely no physical affection or "I love you" from parents and family can make people weird.

feckinghound ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 07:31:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not weird, just different.

Eshlau ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can make people weird, I didn't claim that it always does. Everyone's different.

zegrindylows ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, it is weird. It usually comes with several other related relationship handicaps as well, not just the inability to show physical or verbal affection.

GLOOTS_OF_PEACE ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 08:30:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I disagree about it making people weird. I'm the same as you - almost never been hugged and never heard the L word from my folks, but I wouldn't change them for the world. Their love is unconditional. I don't need to seek validation from them. In fact I have nothing but gratitude - they have made huge sacrifices that have helped make my life better.

I've had no problem getting into relationships or friendships in which hugs are given generously. Just think about the person you want to be and live that. Your parents aren't holding you back from experiencing love.

redeyeddragon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:36:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yea that is the way I look at it too. I dont need to hear that they love me. I know it anyway.

Eshlau ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:56:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I said it can make people weird, not that it necessarily does. I don't need my parents to do those things, but it would have been nice. My parents had a lot of problems when I was growing up, so that's probably a part of it, too.

I don't think that it competently stunted me, I'm married now, and even in the past I never had problems with affection in romantic relationships, it was just weird showing affection to anyone else, because it's just not what my family does. I wish I were more comfortable with it.

IsaacM42 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:38:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's me to a T, are you my sister?

SoGodDangTired ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:10:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Weirdly, I hugged my parents a lot (and still do) but I never really hugged my siblings nor did we say we loved each. That, plus a nice helping of bullying in elementary school, I was extremely uncomfortable touching people.

I had some touchy friends that helped me stop freaking out with the idea of hugging girls (in fact I'm sure more than one person has thought I was a lesbian) but I still get weird about hugging my guy friends.

Which sucks. I'm a physically affectionate person.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:16:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I come from a family with very minimal physical contact, we love each other and they are massively supportive of everyone and everything, but physical contact is just a non-thing, but I don't want physical contact with my family, only a friend or girlfriend.

When I eventually get a girlfriend I'm going to be introduced to a whole new world.

Cylon_Toast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:40:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The weird thing is, I'm the same but my parents do give hugs and say "I love you".

I don't like hugs, they make me feel nothing and are weird. Same thing with the kiss on the cheek greeting as well. While saying "I love you" just feels extremely awkward, even if I mean it, I haven't done it in years.

[deleted] ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 03:36:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fuckin' weirdos, that's who

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 08:36:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can confirm.

Source: Am a fuckin' weirdo.

I_PEE_WITH_THAT ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 04:05:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I fucking love hugs, I hug most of my friends, family members, my dog, other people's dogs, and the parents of my friends.

DodgyBollocks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:19:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I do too, I'm just a huggy person. My best friend on the other hand can't recall her mother ever genuinely hugging her. Her, her brother and sister don't hug either, really no physical contact at all. Her mother is an an abusive narcissist though so it's not too surprising. I just makes me sad that they basically grew up in a world where the the only physical contact was abusive.

nunyafuknbizzness ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:54:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I force my friends to hug me. I've converted a few people. I've got a buddy that won't hug his family but I don't give him a choice and now he hugs me.

energirl ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 07:27:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was a Fundamentalist Christian I knew people (often homeschooled kids) who were taught regular hugs should be reserved for your spouse. You shouldn't have your body full-on rubbing on another person's body even if you have clothes on. They did side hugs instead. Even I was never that conservative.

hellosexynerds ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 07:40:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yup the christian side hug. Was a thing when I was growing up too.

Mr2-1782Man ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 06:05:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom was like this, zero affection ever. Even with other family members. Others have told me it's because she wanted to isolate us, or keep us to herself. To this day I still have trouble getting close with family and friends. It's weird and makes you socially awkward in the long term if you're the kid.

[deleted] ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 06:09:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My uncle's won't hug me. They shake my hand.

I'm your nephew, not your business partner, now give me a goddamn hug!

Lexus_dude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:45:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's funny, my uncles use to do the same thing. Most of the men were uncomfortable with hugging in my family. One Christmas eve, after the party, when everyone was going to shake hands I just said to them "Nah, bring it in".

Now we hug. Gotta break the ice. They probably think I'm gay, but I don't give a fuck.

In Italy, don't men kiss each other?

GurgleIt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:04:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

On the cheek, and it's not really kissing, More like cheek rubbing. Happens in many European and Asian countries.

lycosa13 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:45:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family was not very affectionate growing up. So when I got to high school lot of my friends liked to hug anytime they saw you, I felt a bit awkward. But I got used to it and now I love hugs, except from my family because that still feels awkward. Like it's forced

invinible ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:15:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For the most part, I can't stand being touched.

ameya2693 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:46:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ironically enough, my mother was like this when I was growing up. Only now, when I have lived away from home for over 5 years has my mum started to say, "I love you." I don't say it because to me its still disconcerting to say something so personal to anyone, even my own mother. And the whole modesty thing was drilled into me to the point where, until now, I was really not interested in celebrations or enjoying myself etc.

white_butterfly1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:04:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not much of a hugger and I very rarely say I love you to anyone, including my SO. The only time my mother would show any affection like that was when she had been drinking so I grew up resenting it and linking the 2 together. Even now when she gets hammered she tries to be all soppy and lovey on social media and it pisses me off to no end. She wonders why I don't call her.. My SO's family always wonder why I don't hug people when I see them, if we go to her parents she'll hug them and her brother as she walks in and then again when she goes. Whereas I'm happy with just a quick hello/goodbye hand wave.

ameya2693 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:05:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, same here. I feel hugging is a public display of affection and always freeze when someone hugs me.

white_butterfly1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:27:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same, I tense up and just stand there awkwardly for a few seconds.

Nessidy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:14:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My father was rarely hugged by his introverted parents. It wasn't like they were abusive or didn't love him - they just didn't hug him. They had so little psychical contact that he used to shake hands with his mom in greeting, instead of common kissing on the cheek, until he met my mother and her affectionate family.

psychopathicturtles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:42:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know if the dynamics are different as I'm in high school, but it seems like the vast majority of people I know won't hug anyone who isn't their SO.

That said, most girls will hug whoever they like but boys won't show any emotion towards other males, and are seemingly quite unlikely to towards females unless it's in a romantic way :(

SAGORN ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:58:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I mean I enjoy hugging my boyfriend and some close friends, but parents or siblings, grandparents, aunts or uncles? That never happened, ever growing up. Even saying I love you to them feels like I'm reciting from a teleprompter.

drunky_crowette ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:19:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was allowed to hug my dad until I was 11. Now I only get dad hugs if I'm in the hospital. My first big breakup I got a "I'm sorry you're sad sweetheart" and a pat on the head followed by him asking what I wanted for dinner.

I fucking hate when he pats my head.

klethra ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:20:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My younger brother is on the autism spectrum. My parents taught me that I should show my affection toward him with words, and that just kind of spread to the rest of my life. I hug my parents once each when I leave after seeing them, and I don't touch my brother because he doesn't like it.

Echilon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:54:13 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This makes me sad. I love hugging. I even hug people I haven't seen for a while, like the woman in the supermarket.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:46 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well... boundaries, people, boundaries.

UltimateShingo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:34:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

raises hand. Haven't had any body contact beyond handshakes since first grade (17 years ago). Affection in general is something I never got to experience to be honest.

Gangreless ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have always been far more comfortable hugging non-family members, even strangers.

sweetalkersweetalker ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:47:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My boyfriend grew up with that last one, and was inadvertently teaching it to his young daughter before I came along. They still stiffen up and give me weird looks of panic when I come in for a hug, but the little one at least is learning :)

iwazaruu ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:54:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Asian parenting strikes again.

ameya2693 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:48:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ohhh yes, true fact right here.

radgav96 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:58:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You must have grown up in an lds home...

rvyas619 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:47:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

lds home?

cloudstrife5671 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:52:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mormons. The church of jesus christ of latter day saints

rvyas619 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:41:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ohhhh alrighty

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:43:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As opposed to the church of Jesus Christ of former day saints.

randybob275 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:51:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't recognize it. It looks different not capitalized.

radgav96 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:48:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ladder day saint aka Mormon. A religion that I grew up in. They are nice but have some warped views.

ameya2693 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:47:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

or Asia

spiritbx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:41:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Closed minded people don't change their minds based on new arguments and evidence.

Don't be like those people.

SevenFingerStud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds Mormon.

DeathByUNO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:38:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Its normal to hug the people you care about." This. I felt so unconfortable the first few times I got hugged by friends. I wish it didn't. It feels wierd even when my girlfriend does it. :(

ronin1066 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:42:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Asian?

BT_Valkyrie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:52:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents were similar, it was a case of never having done good enough. I wasn't allowed to be happy with mostly Bs and a few As because I got one D.

AyeBB8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:00:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

2am? Lucky bastards. Mine is 12 :(

thr33m0jo3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:34:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom did the opposite in regards to hugging.

you HAVE to hug everyone who wants one, and to kiss your relatives even if you don't want to.

Almost got sent to juvie over sexual harassment for forcing my cousin to kiss me in middle school and now I pretty much hate when people touch me.

bagoonga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:07:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Latinos that think hugging is weird? That's weird.

Lunatic335 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:42:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I. Know. This. Feel. Good eggs my ma and pa but so traditional.

Iceklimber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:25:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How dare you proudfully proclaim the achievement of independence!

You should be more modest about it!

Beef4dayz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:55:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes I know I'm joining the party late.

I sort of had the modesty thing but it was more like doing everything good or at a heightened ability was the standard way to be. That sort of childhood turned me into a modest person I think, but I never really feel happier when I do great or succeed at something. On the flip side, I feel really down on the occasion I do anything below average (or not at my expectation).

Cheeselot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:35:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You couldnt hug the people you care about... AND YOURE HISPANIC? BLASPHEMY.

Lexus_dude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:41:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's weird for latinos. I live in a "gateway" city, and latino families are very affectionate.

santaclaus73 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:59:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not being allowed to be out at 2am is abusive?

roshnirrr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:04:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Indian. Same thing. Can't even be open about having guy friends. :(

hellokitaminx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:24:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Similar upbringing! The hugging thing really hit home. I don't ever hug my parents, sister, aunt... Anyone who isn't my grandma. When friends or coworkers hug me, I get unimaginably uncomfortable and think it's really inappropriate. It's not. I'm just weird.

Also a mixed Latinx family in suburban US

Iambecomethrowaway2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

White Latinos in USA Suburbia, not even religious =(

that attitude survives without religion? wow

Doctah_Whoopass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:27 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not being home at 2am is decently sus tho.

datmamathere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:44:34 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow! I hug my kids 10 times a day, and tell them I love them 20 times a day. Sorry your parents didn't do it. It is normal... At least YOU know it, that's good!

ICanNoEnglish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:48:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I care about capital letters.

InitiallyAnAsshole ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:44:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dude me and my guy friends kiss on the lips sometimes just as a gag to freak people out. Just like a peck but we think it's insane how up tight people are.

[deleted] ยท 1373 points ยท Posted at 01:43:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Lupusxp ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 04:27:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's the same with my parents.The were both is the military so they impose on me things like not talking back and always addressing adults as "sir" or "madam" constantly even in casual conversation.As a result I'm nervous when I speak to people.

ScumEater ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:10:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wonder if being hyper-polite doesn't help put the onus of politeness back on the person you are being polite to. Like, I've followed the rules, if you choose to break them by being less-respectful in response you are the one breaking the assumed societal contract so I have the upper hand.

ric2b ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:33:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And what upper hand would that be?

[deleted] ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 04:21:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:14:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The thing is people can probably still see through the mask you are putting on if they know you at all. I find it absolutely disingenuous and aggravating to have people act that way. It is a form of dishonesty I want to know where I stand or what I am doing to bother you.

[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 05:01:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Same here im a male and my dad taught me that way, i wish i could rebel but he was super buff all my life, so now trying not to be a pushover is so hard but at the same rate if someones my age I treat them like i should thankfully

deyesed ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 07:01:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Interesting to hear from the flip side of OP's coin.

BTW you may have misplaced a couple of these:

AaIIII,,.()--;'

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:43:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Rofl yea i just went back to edit some of it i hope its a bit better

rabbit395 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:35:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I have to give someone some constructive criticism I give them the good old complement sandwich!

[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 07:26:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I really like how Dale Carnegie said to use 'and' rather than 'but' when giving constructive criticism, because the 'but' tends to negate whatever was said previously. Something like, "You're really great at x, and you have potential to be great at y too," vs "You're really great at x, but you need to improve on y."

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:19:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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epiphanette ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:44:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mustard

TwentyOnePassengers ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:43:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This was my parents too. All throughout high school and college, my mom always wondered why I struggled with English class. Each and every time she brought it up, I wanted to say "uh it's because I never learned to defend myself or form an argument" but ha, can't say it because I can't talk back!

spiritbx ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:50:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Read up on philosophy and science (or just listen to podcasts while commuting if you aren't a dirty peasant). Science will teach you the proper way to make sure things are done right, philosophy will teach you how to argue with other to convince them you are, in fact, right.

just remember that you can be wrong and that you should always take suggestions seriously.

mrmilf ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:46:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This can be a good thing, there is a massive amount of skill in telling someone they have fucked up and have to re-do something, but have them thank you and feel good at the end of it. Its definitely much more productive.. People with your attitude can excel at that!

Mourningblade ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 06:15:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Depending on your field, telling people they're wrong isn't the best way to climb the management ladder.

The best advice I've ever received for promotion is this: focus on doing YOUR job so well that you only need direction, not supervision. Once you achieve that, you'll either be promoted to a new set of problems or you'll be an excellent candidate for an organization that will.

In my field (software development):

  1. Deliver on your commitments.
  2. Work your blockers (what's preventing you from delivering) - and never make your boss come to you to find out why things are running behind schedule; go to your boss and tell them.
  3. Think in trade-offs rather than best practices. When you won't be able to get your commitment done in a clean way based on your current understanding, bring real choices packaged as options for your boss.

These are the key organization skills for junior management. There are so damn few people who have them that organizations are usually starved for access to these skills. Promoting someone to management who doesn't show them is more risk than most organizations would care to take on. My least favorite job as manager is playing "find the surprise".

If you're a manager already and looking to move up, THEN you start needing to show leadership. Leadership also isn't telling people they're wrong (it can be, but it doesn't have to be) - it's usually much more of "here's another way to view what we're currently deal with and here is what we gain by looking at it that way."

I'll give you an example because it's storytime: my division was tasked with delivering on 100 high-visibility Xs in 2 months. The internal auditors had been really burned by Xs being done wrong earlier, so they were obsessing about every last detail for each X - such that after 3 weeks we'd achieved a grand total of 0 Xs accepted by internal audit. They were going back and rejecting previously-accepted Xs as they refined their standards with each X. Meanwhile, my new director was riding us with "Why are you only working 10 hour days? Why are you taking weekends off? Why are you keeping WIP so low? JUST GRIND IT OUT AND BE DONE WITH IT." This is really, really bad.

So late one night after the kids go to bed, I'm working on an X. I realize "this is a goddamn waste of time. X33 isn't important - no one thinks it's important, it's X76 that everyone knows will cause Serious Consequences if it's done wrong." Credit where it's due - plenty of people had been saying "this is a goddamn waste of time", and plenty of people had been saying "X76 will cause Serious Consequences if it's done wrong." I'm apparently the first to hold both ideas at once. Go me. Anyway, I'm talking to one of my fellow managers and we start dividing the Xs into categories

  • I: Serious Consequences
  • III: Waste of Time, and
  • (the biggie) II: Valuable If We Have Time.

In the morning we're talking to audit and we offer two of each variety. Audit is reluctant - but we assign AUDIT the task of telling us which category each X is in. Now with this new, shared understanding the engine lights off. We knock out the 20 Category III's in a week because EVERYONE agrees they're a waste of time and should just be over and done. We have three people grind out three Category I X's over the course of two weeks with audit until everyone's happy, we get a list of rules out of this. Then everyone attacks the rest of the I's, then we follow the rules for the II's and audit's content to have them be fine in the large because everyone agrees they're time-sensitive. Boom - finish a week early.

All because of a different way of looking at the problem. I never told anyone they were wrong, just offered a different way to look at the problem. I also never got any public credit for it - but I did get a promotion ~9 months later. (side note: should I have gotten the credit? Eh. We would not have succeeded without everyone working really, really hard. I'm not going to weigh that.)

BTW, best way to show leadership is work on your communication skills. At least in my field, you will be much more effective if you can write emails/presentations where you both get to the point quickly and lay out the answer clearly enough that people can disagree with you*. Best book I've read for that is The Pyramid Principle, by Barbara Minto.

* Yes, I'm aware of the humor value of saying this after my storytime above. I'm out to win at work, not at Reddit. This is for fun.

dustbunnee ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:22:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We must be sisters. Same here, still learning to speak up and be more assertive.

Ferfrendongles ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:22:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm a nice "by the rules" boss to compensate for this. I don't do well telling people they're making mistakes, but I most certainly can make sure that everyone is aware of all of the rules when things are going great, and then enforce them when they aren't. It usually goes like "awww, Shonnea, sooo you left yesterday without cleaning 2 of your rooms, and you know what I gotta do (get a signature on a "write-up"), but I want you to know that I still trust you, and to prove it, I'm not even going to check your rooms today" or something like that.

Chlorure ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:59 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's everything I ever wanted in my bosses. Current one just bark orders, tells you you are too slow all the time, screams at you when you fuck up and never ever says "good job" or "thank you. I have never seen her smile either.

Miss_Pent ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:55:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can still hear my father saying "Only speak when spoken to." Looking back perhaps that's why I didn't talk to kids in school when growing up. I didn't have many friends.

nevus_bock ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:59:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

work in a position where I have to tell others they're wrong all the time

DMV?

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:18:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I come from a culture that values that in people, so they push it into kids.

But since my family is not from there, I was never forced to be over-humble.

So even as a kid I noticed what damage that does to other kids. The more humble, the bigger loser later in life, because those quiet kids were less ambitious.

swissarm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:06:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Have to tell others they're wrong? That sounds awesome! What job is that?

gigabytegary ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I grew up with similar teachings and I truly think it is a huge reason why I never learned how to speak up in school, properly and respectfully argue my opinion, and generally speak up for myself.

NextFlightHome ยท 1485 points ยท Posted at 00:58:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to money.

They never dealt with credit cards, student loans, etc... What they taught me was superficial and some of their strategies put me deeper into debt.

Took years, but dug out. My credit is great, and I'm actively saving every month

Ukani ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 05:49:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

EVE Online taught me how to manage money more than school or my parents ever did. Im the king of spreadsheets now!

subignition ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 06:24:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

schhol

[deleted] ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 07:08:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He said it helped him manage money, not spell.

Squidblimp ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 08:32:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Great username.

Hullu2000 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:09:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Who needs schhol when there's EVE

Gamerologists ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:01:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

o7 man!

pjabrony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:36:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Im the king of spreadsheets

Got 'em all printed out on my bedsheets.

Doctah_Whoopass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:40 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

U one of those jitafags that only sit in stations, rite? I bet u have 5 hauling alts.

Jennrrrs ยท 140 points ยท Posted at 04:56:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom was just going on about needing to file for bankruptcy because she has about $40,000 in medical bills. I told her to check her credit report first because many places don't add medical charges to credit reports. She didn't want to deal with it, knowing she needs a new car and bankruptcy will kill her chance at a decent loan. So I checked her report for her. She had $1200 on her report that can easily be paid off in a few months.

I swear, we didn't need her abusive boyfriend to get by. She just needed to take a fucking 8th grade finances class.

(Sorry for ranting)

JennaZant ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 07:50:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's 8th grade finances?

plumbeck ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 10:23:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, my school never taught us finances. Pretty much still clueless!

swissarm ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:16:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

/r/personalfinance will change your life. Search the sidebar for a flowchart on the basics of paying off debt and how you should be saving. Also get the app Mint and use it.

plumbeck ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:36:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh wow, thanks for this. really. ^

Pa5trick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:07:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

8th grade finances class? Where is this wizardry? I am 20 and have never been taught anything about finances. My knowledge is self taught and Internet.

Jennrrrs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:48 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My school had one. It was very basic though. Check writing and personal budgeting. Then you would take more advanced classes in High School.

BNLboy ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 05:12:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family was somewhat similar. My parents never really had much when I was younger. They didn't really have any savings until they were after 40. Being cheap was the only thing that got them by when I was little and they just let their expenses rise with their pay increases over time. I have actually taught them some things and hope I can be in a better position by the time I'm their age.

I'm sticking to index funds and stuff I understand with investing on top of my savings. My downside is college loans. I have double the debt of what my parents paid for their house 30 years ago just for college.

trmns ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 15:24:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have double the debt of what my parents paid for their house 30 years ago just for college.

Did you account for inflation?

BNLboy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:39:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's about $5k less than them with inflation, but not far off. With inflation I also make less than they did back then too though.

My parents are still paying on that original mortgage and 1 equity line of credit. Within 30 years I need to pay off my student loans and also hope to have a house paid off.

fiberpunk ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 05:42:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

See, my dad has GREAT money skills, but never taught them to us. All I was really ever taught was how to tithe, and that saving is important. Not really how to save, or how to budget, or how to pay bills, or how credit works beyond "debt is bad." Looking back, I'm amazed that I didn't overdraw my bank account ever, and that I didn't go further into debt than I did (only a few thousand). I really knew nothing.

swissarm ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:19:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wtf is tithing?

zacker150 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:03:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Paying 10% of your money to the church.

swissarm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:04:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I stopped doing that once I realized that my views as to how the money should be spent may not necessarily coincide with theirs.

fiberpunk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:30:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Church thing, giving 10% of your money to the church.

truh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:03:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think people here often confuse being in a good/bad financial situation with being good/bad with finances.

It's not hard to be with your finances if your finances are easy, if you have a stable income and no unexpected expenses.

fiberpunk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:35:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad seems to be genuinely good with finances. My mom, not so much. Which is why it's baffling that I only ever had her trying to teach me "debt bad, saving good."

Ghariba ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:24:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank god for my grandparents. My parents were the usual close-lipped Boomers. My grandparents were open with me: taught me about thrift, pensions, savings, and were the only ones who told me to get a marketable degree instead of/in addition to studying something I love.

ExiledSenpai ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:00:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Example?

nubrubber ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 05:11:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe things like: Mom: You qualify for $40,000 in student loans. Me: But I only need $15,000 Mom: Doesn't matter. Take as much as you can get. Me: Ok. I didn't question it any further and took out as much as possible. <repeat several times, with different amounts.>

rolfbomb ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 11:08:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Interestingly enough in Sweden, taking out as much as possible in student loans is almost always the smartest thing to do. This is because our student loan's interest is much lower than regular loans and you have a very long time to pay them off.

DavenIchinumi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:04:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Similar situation in the Netherlands before our recent scholarship reform. It even had the addendum of your debt being erased if you finished a credited degree within 10 years of first receiving the money.

the_jak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:33:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Here in the US the federal loans have a much lower rate than other forms of credit and you can stretch payments out for as much as 30 years. No fee for paying off early. Theres even a program for loan forgiveness if you teach in a impovershed school district or work for the federal government for 10 years.

Because we do such a shitty job of educating people about basic finanical topics, and the information about repayment historically has been hard to get to or crypitic in its explanation, people dont understand anything about them.

Invisibleufo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:07:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad would flip shit if I did that lol. He paid all his mortgages and bank loans 10 years ago. He never let my brother take student loans and instead lent him money. He really hates debts

Amberleaf29 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:39:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not sure I'm interpreting right, but I take it that they were one of those "credit is bad" people? A lot of people I know like that are just super fucking broke anyway, but credit cards can actually help you in some situations, I've found. Apparently potential landlords like it if you have a credit history, and if you want a car loan or a mortgage... Then again, the people I know who are anti-credit would never go for that, and insist that they can just save up to buy outright instead. Yeah, in the Canadian housing market, sure... I'm glad you figured out your way out of debt! I've just gotten to the age where I can start using credit cards a few years ago, and I'm trying to figure all that out still!

Bahamute ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 05:40:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The only thing you need to know about credit cards is that you should absolutely never carry a balance month to month.

Kiaser21 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:47:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Unfortunately, nearly all those in credit card debt swore they'd never carry a balance, and all it takes is one bad decision or moment of weakness.

cailihphiliac ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 11:17:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some people think that if you don't carry a balance month to month, you'll have a terrible credit rating. Because you're not using the card properly or something

Kiaser21 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:03:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I studied credit health for years when I was a blinded credit fanatic, and that's certainly untrue. It's sad people pay money to try to get a higher score.

r3gnr8r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:45:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

After getting out of high school I didn't trust my own ability to own a credit card, so as an alternative route to credit I ended up using a small amount of money saved as collateral for a personal loan of the same amount. In the end I ended up 'paying' the bank for good credit (due to the <1% interest), but the amount was so small compared to the end credit score I don't regret it at all.

Kiaser21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:04:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You paid money for a arbitrary score that let's you borrow money, so that you can improve the score, which let's you borrow more money, so that you can improve your score, which let's you...

Question what it takes to make someone not regret that.

r3gnr8r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:31 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Um, who said I did it more than once? Paying ~$50 to avoid a high rates, down payments, and establish overall business trust doesn't sound bad to me.

Amberleaf29 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:04:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I kinda knew that; it's mainly because the interest rates are so high, right? Obviously they want you to make the minimum payment or whatever each month, because then they get to charge you interest continuously. The couple of times I've forgotten to pay off my card before the end of the month (I go long periods of time without using it, so I have occasionally forgotten it exists and then realized to my horror I haven't paid the balance in two months; I mainly only use it for online purchases because plenty of places don't do PayPal or debit cards, but I use my credit card for PayPal anyway), I didn't like the interest charges too much. :P

niconacho ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:23:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your bank/credit union might let you set up auto-pay for that. I have it set up so that it automatically pays the full balance each month.

CSI_Tech_Dept ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:46:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Interest rates, yes essentially if you're carrying balance you end up paying more than you would if you didn't.

Also, it's a slippery slope, because at first the charges don't seem as bad and if you carrying a balance it's easier to start purchasing more than you can afford.

CornmanNagasaki ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:29:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As someone who understands quantum physics more than credit, what exactly does this mean?

Bahamute ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:34:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Check out the /r/personalfinance subreddit's wiki on this subject.

pjabrony ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:40:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, but phrased that way it's not a reason, just a commandment. The reasoning is this: credit is for cash flow issues, not revenue-expense issues. If you're spending out more than you're taking in, then having credit isn't going to fix the problem. It's just going to exacerbate it, because you're now adding the interest expense while not giving yourself any additional revenue (revenue being earned money that you don't have to give back ever).

So, if you have a steady job that pays you so many dollars a week and you want to pay a monthly bill, then credit makes sense because you don't want to pay the bill four times. But you still need to earmark the money, when it comes in, to pay the bill, whether on the credit or the bill itself.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Amberleaf29 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:07:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, I guess that can look kinda bad. xD I'm mainly going off of my parents' experiences. They've taught me a lot about credit, but all the theory in the world is a whole different ball game to actually using and understanding credit. ;w; I just know that a lot of the people I know who are anti-credit seem to have a lot of other strange financial ideas.

I'm in a business program at university, but I never really got taught much about credit, now that I think about it. Strikes me as kinda odd.

the_jak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:40:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

one of those "credit is bad" people?

Good god, mine took it even further than finances. Never borrow anything from anyone, for any reason. You shouldnt need help. You should be self reliant. You want food? Dont rely on some store to provide it, grow a 1/4 garden like we do. Working in a group at school? Youd better do everyones work instead of relying on people to do their parts. Want a book? Libraries, like all government institutions are socialism, buy your own books.

They werent always like this. My dad used to be a cool dude before he met his current wife. I blame her for his slow dimise and slip into Fox News fueled dominionist TEA Party lunacy. She was raised by Mennonites and is from Ohio, and any Hoosier can tell you that nothing good comes from Ohio.

Kiaser21 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Anti-credit (score) person here. A ton of potential landlords don't even do a credit check, and if so they don't care about the score but about not seeing negatives or lots of debt activities (even if paid off on time). I'm a landlord, btw. Corporate owned apartment buildings different a bit on that, though.

Car loan? No one has ANY business financing a depreciating asset like a car in any situation, so that point is moot.

Mortgage? It's called manual underwriting. With ZERO credit score and even credit history any competent lender can run manual underwriting and you get rates as good as if you had high 700s credit score.

Credit cards? Not helpful in situations, as they are always used as an excuse to forego a proper emergency fund, or to kick the can down the road. It incentives a false protection which then leads to poor choices. A single moment of weakness, that WILL come, enables that bad choice.

Build wealth, not credit. It's the drum beat of the lower middle class that "credit is everything", and it's the reason they stay where they are.

Amberleaf29 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:02:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Really? I've always been taught that when I search for an apartment, I gotta make sure my credit history is all in order. Then again, my best friend doesn't have any credit history and she lives in an apartment just fine...

Cars I agree with; credit cards I can also see it. I mainly use mine for online purchases, because they have more purchase protection than a debit card. However, now that Visa Debit is a thing, that might change? I hope, anyway. Also, for some reason the parking site and some others for my university only allow you to use a credit card. T_T Had no idea about manual underwriting; that's quite interesting!

I'm only 20, so I've got a lot to learn. But I am somewhat interested in looking into investing and financial independence stuff when I am older and out of university. Student loans might kind of screw that up, though, because unfortunately unless I want to work all the time, I have to take out student loans. :/

Kiaser21 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 07:14:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Debit cards ran through the VISA system have the identical purchase protection as a credit card directly from VISA. What differs is that on a credit card it doesn't come out of the bank account, it sits in the credit card balance first. When you dispute either way, the money gets temporarily credited back immediately pending investigation results, so it's not a big deal either way. And a credit card doesn't always protect your bank account balance. I've had a credit card company pull money directly from my bank account to pay for someone else's card that I had nothing to do with, so even with a credit card you can end up with money from your bank account gone when it shouldn't be (took me months to get them to correct it). Also, any debit card with the VISA logo can be ran through as a credit card, so you shouldn't have trouble with the parking site.

Credit HISTORY is important to an extent there are no negatives (no history at all is just fine). A credit SCORE is entirely different, as a credit score is maintained by playing kissy with debt. You're spending money, and risking going into debt, to get a higher credit score. What does a higher credit score get you? The ability to borrow more money, so you can raise your score, so you can borrow more money, so you can raise your score, and so on. People get stuck in this sick cycle. In fact, it's only a relatively new thing that credit is worshipped in financial planning, and stems from a wonderful marketing job by the credit agencies in the past few decades.

School choice and school lifestyle are the biggest issues with student loans. Everyday people are posting about putting clothes, rent, buying a car, starting up a business, going on vacation, etc on their student loans. And then they pick expensive colleges, instead of cheap community college at least for the first few years and then an in-state/province college. They don't save before college, and they don't work through college (which if you look it up you'll find a correlation between those that work during college and better grades and quicker graduation dates). You can do this without debt, you just have to make smart decisions and buckle down. Getting out of school debt free puts you so far ahead of the curve you'll have most 30 and 40 year olds wishing they had done so.

JustAsIgnorantAsYou ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:43:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Debit cards ran through the VISA system have the identical purchase protection as a credit card directly from VISA

FYI, VISA doesn't provide credit itself. VISA just processes the payments, your bank provides the credit part in credit card.

Kiaser21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, processes it but WITH the same consumer protection service.

Tiny_Rat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't mean to nit pick, but I'd like to point out that for some professions, not going to a top ranking school, or at least a university ( not a community college), can be a serious detriment in your later career. It might not close doors completely, but it may make it take longer to reach the same level of sucess, and the same level salary. In those cases, taking out loans to pay for your education might not be the worst idea, if you have a clear picture of why you need them and how you will pay them back.

Kiaser21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hear you. But it's an extremely cast majority of careers that don't rely on that. When is the last time you vetted a doctor, lawyer, electrician, plumber, financial service, realtor, etc by their place of graduation? And even those that do benefit from a place generally aren't receiving a return rate larger than their peers in the same industry, when it comes to comparing education costs. It's only real benefit is the being on the "in" crowd, but you better be in that before you even pick a elite school nowadays because they'll block you out if not, and even then that will limit you to some of only where that crowd goes later in the market.

Tiny_Rat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:37 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Actually, doctor and lawyer are two of the careers I was thinking of, the third being scientist/academic in general. In all three cases, you need to get into a graduate program after your undergrad, and that application process is really competitive and certainly helped by graduating from a big-name school. It's still possible to make it in these fields without attending a top graduate school, but it's much harder to land your first post graduate job when you don't have a top grad school on your resume. This can affect your whole career trajectory, because, while customers might not care where you graduated from, employers certainly will.

NextFlightHome ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:52:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There is a time and place for credit cards... Responsible use and will power are key. We have a few cards. One we use for literally everything, all bills, daily purchases, etc. I have that card setup to pay itself completely off every month. It's not a choice, it just does. This does two major things; protects our purchases (and security in case of skimming/ID theft), also we get a fuck ton of hotel points. Zero annual credit card fee of course.

Rest of the cards are almost like an emergency fund. While we build our real emergency fund in savings, we have credit lines in case something catastrophic happens. We did go into debt recently again, I got a new job where the first year pay was a big cut and our kids were starting private preschool (public preschool isn't really an option where we live). We put only their tuition on a credit card. I then transferred it to another card that had a zero interest rate for 12 months. We have a plan to pay it off before then. We went into debt knowing second year and beyond at my new job paid much better. (contractual salary increases)

Kiaser21 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:09:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's not, a person can live without issue and FAR more well off without a credit card. That industry doesn't exist because people always pay them off in full all their lives.

No, credit cards are NEVER an emergency fund, they are a shift of liability that also causes more damage down the road then even the original emergency.

Why not get out of debt and day out of debt, grow that emergency fund and finally focus on building wealth instead of credit and bonus points. You do know that there are numerous studies showing people spend 10-18% more using credit than cash or even debit, right?

NextFlightHome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:12 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am building wealth. I am saving. I'm not using my credit cards. But while I'm building that emergency fund, I have peace if mind knowing if the furnace were to go tits up or there was a major water/sewage problem, etc... I could get it taken care of. Before this emergency fund is build, I couldn't take care of my family in an emergency otherwise.

JustAsIgnorantAsYou ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:40:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Car loan? No one has ANY business financing a depreciating asset like a car in any situation, so that point is moot.

There are tons of good reasons in many situations to finance depreciating assets.

fferapont ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:44:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There are tons of good reasons in many situations to finance depreciating assets.

Care to explain?

zacker150 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:07:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The utility you get out of the asset is higher than the cost spent. The whole point of money is to spend it in such a way that your utility is maximized.

Kiaser21 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I disagree. The vast majority of the wealthy disagree. My calculator disagrees as well.

JustAsIgnorantAsYou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:39:22 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What are you talking about? Have you ever looked at a balance sheet? The vast majority of the wealthy got there by running businesses full of depreciating assets financed with debt.

SuperSleuth119 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:07:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks for this comment. My parents have always told me to never, ever use credit or credit cards. They've always said "If we don't have it, we don't spend it," which I think is good advice, even though I've heard other people say the opposite, including people on Reddit. It's hard to know who to believe.

legone ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:19:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's all about the person. I strongly disagree with this poster. People do have credit cards without debt. I've watched my parents never carry a balance for 20 years and we've gone on a lot of free trips and gotten money back because of it. It's good to have a credit card, but like the above said, it's in no way a replacement for an emergency fund. If you don't think that you'll be diligent enough to budget for that with a credit card, don't get one, but good credit is valuable. There are tons of people that don't spend money they don't have, but also funnel that money through credit cards. It just depends on the person.

faymouglie ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:01:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Having a credit card does not mean you just spend willy nilly. If you're a responsible person you use it the exact same way you would use a debit card and pay it off either weekly or at the end of the month. If you have the will power to manage that extremely simple task (which you should be able to if you're ever able to save any money at all) so many doors open up for you. Just an example, I'm 21 and I opened my first credit card 11 months ago. In that small amount of time I've used my normal spending to get me up to already a 741 credit score, over 100k chase reward points (worth 1k in cash back or more if used for travel), and I'm on my way to having no problems getting financing in the future. I've never carried a balance and I've never been tempted to over spend the same way I've never been tempted to drop my life savings on a whim.

While the above poster might not have any need or want for good credit a lot of us do. For instance, I'm definitely going to need credit when I go to lease a car in a year once I graduate. Sure, it'd make more "sense" to save up and buy some car and keep it for 15 years but I love cars and I'm sure as hell going to lose money if I buy a new one every few years.

buttonbookworm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:15:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Owning a credit card and not spending money you don't have are not mutually exclusive. I got a credit card when I was 20 so I could start building credit and I've never spent money I don't have at that moment. My card is set to automatically pay itself off from my checking account each month so I've never carried a balance, had to pay interest, or gone into debt. My card gives me cash back so its like my debit card but I also get free money.

horneke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:07:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There is no way I'm turning down a 1% car loan and paying cash instead. It just doesn't make sense to avoid loans when money is so cheap to borrow right now.

Kiaser21 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:06:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you REALLY think your car is 1% interest, then you've got a tough time ahead of you financially. That's a massively depreciating asset.

You'll also be in trouble if you think leveraging debt against investments will get you somewhere in the long run.

horneke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A car isn't an asset, it's either a tool or a hobby. This is like finance 101. If you are going to pay any amount for a vehicle, then it's stupid to pay cash when loans are so cheap. 2k, or 20k doesn't matter. Take the cheap loan and keep your money invested. Returns average well over 1% over time.

Kiaser21 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:22:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Completely disagree. Financing and paying interest on a item you'll be destroying over time is absolutely a horrible financial decision. Leveraging persoal debt to try to make money in investments is insane as well. It's not finance 101 at all, it's short sighted and competitive devoid of context of total personal financial health that only gets repeated by those in between busts who haven't learned their lesson.

horneke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:08 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can you name one reason why it's a bad idea to do it?

Kiaser21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:04:18 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
  • Mathematics on paper is not the same asize mathematics in reality life with practice in humans. It's called PERSONAL finance.

  • In the long run, those that do not leverage debt last longer than to see that do financially. They can survive the busts.

  • The well off often correlate with being debt free.

  • The drive of investment and wealth building actually grows when people are unrestricted by financial liabilities like debt, and when they unlock their cash flow potential by being out of debt. It actually translates, in practice in human life, to more mathematical benefit than those who try to leverage debt. It's the same concept as why paying off debt using the snowball method works out in the end to being mathematically better than paying the highest interest rate down first, because we aren't robots, and a spreadsheet proof is actually SLOWER in real life than the alternative. Again, short sightedness and devoid of context is the issue here with believing leveraging debt, especially with a car, is an insane idea.

  • Specifically about car financing, it's not "cheap" money in any sense when you consider it depreciates just barely les a than a consumable.

This isn't theory, it's demonstrable, it's logical, and it has a track record in practice. Millions of people understand this and multiple financial plans promote this with real world results to back it up. Even in more than just personal finance, we see real estate investors come and go each bust predominantly because they play the debt leveraging game while the rest of us real estate investors (which is what I do) stay around by using cash and even benefit from the busts as well as the booms. It's slower starting for us, then snowballs into something more powerful than the debt leverages could ever imagine.

So, the real question is, with actual context of humans, longevity,personal finance, and real world proof can YOU name one reason why it's a GOOD idea to do it your way.

horneke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:09 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

You literally just used a wall of text to say absolutely nothing important, and still didn't give me a real reason why you should pay cash for a car instead of a 1% loan. Not one reason other than "debt is scary".

It's easy to see why my way is better. 1% is less than inflation. The value of the loan gets smaller as time goes on. If I leave that large amount of cash invested I earn more than 1% on it every year. This is simple.

Kiaser21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:07 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your inability to understand or to be rude about it gives no argument to that your you are correct. You're thinking in concrete first level instead of conceptual and long range. It's unattended with limiting yourself to that that you would think you're right. It's your life, so only you have yourself to harm, the rest of us who've practiced and taught this know better and aren't going to be persuaded by ridicule.

horneke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:24 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So I take it you have no good reasons... That's what I thought.

Kiaser21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:04:09 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I already posted them, you refused to listen. Trolling is not allowed in the rules.

horneke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:37 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This isn't trolling I'm legitimately looking for an answer.

How much money do I need? Ho much do I have? How can I make more? How can I avoid spending more than I need to? That is finance, and you use numbers to back it up. I showed you numbers and you keep talking about depreciating assets, and

My math works out. You haven't said anything that shows otherwise. You only talk about real world proof and deprecating assets. A car isn't even an asset. Why bring that up?

You talk about debt being a hindrance to building wealth and ignore the fact that trillions in wealth has been created in the last 8 years (when borrowing was cheap).

Kiaser21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:18 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's the mentality from those who don't last through the busts. Go borrow as much as you can and leverage everything to invest, see how that works out in the long run. It's good for us that dont, because we get to but up your assets on the cheap when you bust out. Even Rich Dad Poor Dad finally got his lesson doing that.

horneke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:03 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So..... you still don't say anything valuable. And apparently are ignoring the people that just rode out 2008 and are worth more now... or the ones that used loans post 2008 to buy up cheap properties and made a killing.... and what does any of this have to do with a car loan? You are just talking nonsense, and still confusing a vehicle with an investment/asset.

Kiaser21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:34:08 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Those of us who are worth 7 and 8 figures are normally told by those who aren't that we are talking nonsense, but we generally don't care. The advice is meant for those who will listen, not argue without experience.

horneke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:50 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lol ok buddy. You have fun with your 8 figures and not knowing simple math.

Kiaser21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:52 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We will. Being limited to concrete thinking in a math comparison when dealing with financial planning and wealth will cause you to react like a child and permanently stay middle class, btw. Good luck in life.

Iniwid ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:08:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm very glad that you managed to get yourself out of that conditioning. Debt is scary and tough as nails, and the habitual behavior that makes one much more prone to debt is even tougher to shake.

Do you have any tips on anything in particular to avoid or ensure?

scrumbud ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:41:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Spend less than you make, start saving money now, and if you are going to use a credit card, pay it in full every month.

Nambot ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:58:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This, in the order listed, is the budgeting 101. Budgeting 102 is that, while not ideal, loans are perfectly okay for large scale essentials (such as repairing a broken car), provided that the payments fit in your budget. Never take a loan if you can't afford the amount they expect you to pay back each month.

JediBurrell ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:46:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Never take financial advice from a poor person.

Salty_Caroline ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:53:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Because only rich people are good with money.

swissarm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:13:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Surely you can't deny there's some sort of correlation??? Not every poor person has had a string of unfortunate events they were unable to prepare for?

Salty_Caroline ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:34:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Have you read the posts on here about how being poor sets you up to continue to be poor? Things like Insufficient Funds fees, or any added fee/penalty for late payments, even if by a day. Unable to afford medical coverage perhaps, which would obviously set you back if anything we're to happen. Maybe they have older, worn out vehicles which break down. Having children, needing to rent from places that allow for having children, which extremely limits your options, and may cause more issues (older house, increased utilities expenses). These are just some small examples, but there are plenty of issues they face holding them back. Plus even on your children's futures, where not having access to nutritious meals, or having the support of both your parents home on a regular to help with whatever, if parents are working numerous minimum wage jobs, or one parent isn't in the picture. There are SO many more variables as well. It's a major cycle that's tough to get out of. Look at the stats that say by the third generation in most rich families, the money is more or less gone. I think Trump is an excellent example of how rich people can be bad with money. It goes both ways, but when you start with nothing it's much, much harder to get over the hurdles to get you where you're no longer living pay cheque to pay cheque. Obviously some poor people just don't know what to do when they have money in their pocket, so they spend it, but there are plenty of other obstacles otherwise.

sorry for the long post.

Scar_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:33:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I completely get where you're coming from. My parents didn't teach me the wrong way to handle money, they just never taught me anything about the importance of what money represents. I'm 26 now and I'm only just learning that because I can buy it, it does not mean I can afford it. Luckily my debt is below ยฃ10k, some have it much worse.

aim_at_me ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:28:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents always had the illusion of teaching us money but only really discussed concepts. Never let us kids see their finances. I learn by doing. I'm going to share all my income and expense stream details with my kids if they ask. I think it's a very important skill in this age - if you're shit with money you're not going to able to achieve the things you want in life. Unless you're very lucky.

Heidy_Lo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:22:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents were similar kind of.

They burned into my brain to NEVER buy a brand new car from a dealership because of the loan, always buy a used car with cash.

Never get a loan for anything, pay everything with cash yourself.

I guess it was more of a matter of saving, but when I wanted to buy a certified preowned car, they flipped out. They also were livid when they found out I went and got a student loan. My parents are not from the US, so I guess they had a fear of not being able to pay off loans and getting items repossessed or something.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:08:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sort of the opposite for me- according to my parents if you take out a loan or get into debt your life will spiral out of control, you'll go broke, never be able to recover financially and die alone. I'm pretty afraid to spend money now and never feel like I have enough saved up.

GameOnDevin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can't wait to get to that stage. Once college is done maybe I can finally save money.

Andolomar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What actually is credit? I've been denied a phone contract because apparently I have poor credit, and I don't know why.

I've never taken out a loan and I've had two contracts before and I've never missed a payment, I've got enough money in my current account to purchase the phone off-contract, and a savings ISA. But apparently I have poor credit, and I'm scratching my head trying to work out why.

poofacedlemur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:35:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ugh, working on this now. I have the most in the bank that I've had in 5 years, yet feel like this is the most economically stressed I've ever been. I work 7 days a week since I have two jobs. Good on you OP. Keep it up.

Snow_King7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:58:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
User839 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:10:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The same happened to a friend of mine, he used to get โ‚ฌ8 to school every day to buy food for himself (in the Netherlands its normal to take your lunch with you from home, you can't even buy anything except candy and soda on our school) then he got a job (the highschool sort of job), earned about โ‚ฌ100 per month and spent it all within 3 days every single time. College really is going to be a problem for him

Mynameisnotdoug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:34:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Next you should learn the difference between nouns and verbs. ;)

hiyouareawesome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family was somewhat similar.

I remember one time trying to ask How much my parents made and got a spanking and grounded.

Then when I was 18 and ready to go to college, my parents said, we didn't know you were going to college as if all the AP classes I took weren't there glaring them in the face.

We took out loans but they never uttered a word to me about them. I drop out because all I keep thinking is oh god, oh god, oh god I have 5,000 dollars in debt how do I pay that back? This was in South Carolina when the min. Wage was 5.15$. I just didn't understand loans.

I also didn't understand saving. I didn't understand anything at all.

I finally figured it out but that's also because I am in a situation that I have enough money to save.

DanPlaysVGames ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck that, I want my kids to know this when they turn 16. In my country if you are 16 you can get a "student card". It's a Visa/MasterCard/Maestro debit card but the bank will only let logical purchases through. So if you're buying bullshit on ebay it won't work, if you're buying a bike or books it will. It's a great way to both get them a CC but also make them realize the importance of controlling money.

RichtersMask ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:41:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But do you have a $20,000 portfolio and a healthy relationship with your local stockbroker's, and another $5000 saved in case of a rainy day? No? Then you're just another r/financialadvice horror story.

l3ackstab ยท 620 points ยท Posted at 02:48:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To always assume the worst might happen. My parents are conservative in every way, shape, and form.

Like no mom, just because I'm out having a good time with my friends and don't answer my phone doesn't mean that I'm dead.

Now that 100% independent, I'm learning that sometimes risk equals reward, whereas my parents had taught my siblings and I that risk usually leads to demise.

brettf123 ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 06:53:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is how my father's side of the family is, they once actually prevented me from taking a FREE trip to L.A. because it was "dangerous" and "nothing but trouble"

bschug ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 11:05:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"You didn't answer your phone last night. And you didn't even give me the numbers of all your friends. How would I know if you had an accident and died?"

Jesus, mom, I'm 30 years old, sometimes I go out at night. And if I die, I'm sure the cops will call you.

[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 12:45:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:46:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also I am 26. Geez

10takeWonder ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:23:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm 28 and my parents found out I smoke weed, I now get regular lectures on the dangers of heroin use...

ShadowPhoenix22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or 'If I die, which is unlikely, I take care of myself. You and Dad helped with that. If I die, know that I love you both, and that won't change if I'm out late, if something happens, or not. That's the truth, mom'.

horyo ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 06:26:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I read a book that talked about how truly successful people knew when to take a risk. Sometimes it doesn't work out, but you learn from that and continue to improve your decision-making process. Too much risk or not enough risk are both bad ends of the extreme.

tommypatties ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:31:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The trick here is to know when a risk is going poorly and get out quickly and completely. The sunk cost fallacy is hard to shake.

horyo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And that comes from experience and understanding contextualism. You can have objective measures of risks and calculating when it's worth the risk or when it's not, but for most people it only becomes intuitive after experience.

faintedsquirtle ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 08:38:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have a sister who's older than me and whenever she went out, it was one of two things.

Dad: She's out with her boyfriend (which she doesn't have because I would know) I saw her get in the car with a boy (Which I mean, she can't have friends who are guys?

Mom: OH GOD SHE'S OUT PAST 12 I AM GONNA KICK HER ASS WHEN SHE GETS HOME SHE'S DEAD.

It passed onto me too and I am very overprotective. It hurts just to think if I had a child and them going out with friends and getting kidnapped or something.

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 14:11:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mom did this to me . Always giving the worst case violent scenario to everything . Now my mind creates horrific events and outcomes to anything. It's to the point I don't do anything because the fear of something terrible will happen to me

spiritbx ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:08:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The thing is, that's a natural response to loss.

When you lose someone you care about and you realize you didn't care for them as much as you should have, you want to make sure it doesn't happen with other people.

It's annoying, but loss is a traumatic event.

Not that you can't learn to overcome it obviously.

BritneeB ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:32:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a parent I kinda totally get the dead thing. To quote the Simpsons "moms spend their lives preparing for catastrophes". Like seriously. My kid got bit by an ant today. I was terrified for hours that it was some deadly ass spider.

Just tell us where you are and that you're safe. That's all we ask. :)

Even now as an adult if I'm visiting my parents I keep them updated on where I am, when I'll be home, etc.

GhostOfDawn1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:27:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sure, but if your kid is in their 20s or 30s, they shouldn't have to tell you where they are going all the time.

BritneeB ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:34:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm 24. I've lived outside of home since 18. I'm married and have a son of my own. I don't do it because I have to. I do it out of respect.

GhostOfDawn1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:42:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait, you tell them where you're going all the time? And I mean all the time. Such as over to a friend's house, to the grocery store, to the park, all of that? Every single day?

BritneeB ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:48:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If I'm visiting them and staying in their house I'll be like "hey I'm taking off for a bit. I'm going to go see x friend and do some shopping. Do you need anything? No? K I'll be back later" and if I decide to not return to their home that evening I'll send someone a text so they don't think I died in a ditch somewhere.

ZaphodBeeblebroxEsq ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm 30. Last week when I flew across the country for work, I texted my mom when I boarded the plane and as soon as we landed. Now that I have kids, I get it....parents just worry about their kids, it's instinct.

mikeyBikely ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:34:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Plan for the worst, but live for the best.

Juliablizzz ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:35:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Omg this! One time I had to drive up to MD for work for a few days in some snow (at 27 years old) and she insisted that I pack water and a large blanket, "just incase I get stranded somewhere".

This is what my entire life growing up was like. I'm pretty sure it's why I'm so anxious around my kids.

infinitewowbagger ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 09:22:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

While I get what you mean, that is actually a pretty sensible suggestion. In winter (if you're north enough anyway) its always worth carrying those around.

notquiteotaku ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:05:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I keep a small emergency kit in the trunk of my car, including a blanket, water, and some granola bars. I'll probably never need it, but I don't think it's unreasonable to carry it around for the peace of mind.

Juliablizzz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:12:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I should have probably mentioned that it was a total of 3 inches.

sobobo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:18 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As long as the road is good, you can walk without freezing (houses around) or there's lots of traffic.

If the car stops, you've lost heat and ready travel. No people for 20km, no traffic, and temp below freezing, then yeah, you could be screwed very fast.

It doesn't take much cold to kill very quickly. Just enough that you can't stay warm. People underestimate a little snow. Unlucky people die regularly.

infinitewowbagger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:53:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yup. Where I live the weather is grey and temperate all year, so the occasional cold snap that people in say Norway or Canada would laugh at really catches people out.

The amount of people I've helped who were stranded in cars with nothing but what they were stood in, not even a coat was ridiculous.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:43:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh. My. God. Soneone who finally understands

pjabrony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:43:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why would people take risks if it led to demise?

hitops1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:04:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You know what, it's all about perspective. My mom worried about the same stuff. Now I'm a parent of 3 young kids, and I worry about them. Pretty normal arrangement.

l3ackstab ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know my mother cares and she is only looking out for my best interests, but particularly through college and now my early 20's it is important to learn how to make smart decisions regardless of whether they are risky or conservative.

LosBoris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:10:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I remember my mom calling all my classmates if i didn't answer the phone when i was with friends. Now that im 25 and going to gf's house i still need to text her when i get there. Or if we talk on the phone and i tell her that im going to buy some milk from the store, i need to text her. I still feel like a teenager..

GhostOfDawn1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:31:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I still live at home but one night I was out with some friends and I had my ringer off on accident. I look at my phone and my mom had called me 13 times, so I called her back and she blows up on me asking where I am and what not.. It had been about an hour since I last texted her.

Obsidian28 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:34:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Been there. I went out with a friend while at college and couldn't reach my parents to let them know that I would miss our weekly call (pre cell phone days...).

They mobilized the police where I was studying to find me.... For what it's worth, I'm a guy and was 21 at the time.

PhoenixAgent003 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Did you try showing them the movie the Croods?

Helium_Isotope ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:06:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are your parents the Croods? "they left the cave... AND DIED!!!"

The_Flying_Lunchbox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:08:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm still trying to unlearn this. Everything I try ends up in failure.

PuppetsNPeople ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:40:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

my dad would call and say, "i almost called the police. i thought you were dead." because i didn't answer or call you back for 2 days??

BlackViperMWG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To always assume the worst might happen

This is like the best thing I learned from my dad. Although, I am much more deeper pessimist than his realism. But it was the first step.

PerpetualAnachronism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I once went to confession and then Mass on a Wednesday night, with my parents fully aware of where I was going, but the line was long so I had to wait until after mass to confess.

During that time I had about 6 missed calls from my parents, and when I got home I was informed that my father had taken the other car to go look for me because they "though I was dead in a ditch somewhere!"

So, I can relate.

festerf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

my mom does the same shit. when i would hangout with friends, i had to text/call her every 30 minutes

sobobo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:41 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I always wonder about this situation. My grandparents were super conservative. My parents were very un-conservative. A few years into kids (I was maybe 6 or 7), they flipped. Super conservative.

Now that I'm older, l have many friends who've done the same flip from super liberal, to major screaming conservative. And most who flip deny ever EVER being not conservative. Angrily deny.

Funny and scary at the same time.

flexthrustmore ยท 1205 points ยท Posted at 03:29:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That Men should be busy doing manly stuff and that taking care of / entertaining the kids is Womens work. Fuck that, I hang out and do stuff with my kids every chance I get, what's the point of having them if you don't want to spend time with them?

ADrunkenChemist ยท 348 points ยท Posted at 10:16:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To marry into other houses and create alliances duh

flexthrustmore ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 12:26:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

sshh!, if the Johnsons next door find out about my forthcoming alliance with France my invasion plans for their backyard will be ruined.

ChromeLynx ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:03:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

inb4 "She said she wanted to be treated like a princess, so I married her out to a stranger to strengthen my relationship with Poland."

LevelSevenLaserLotus ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 12:06:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Obviously. Plus, who else is going to work the farm when you're old?

plankicorn ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 12:21:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

/r/crusaderkings is leaking...

King_In_The_East ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:58:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 450 points ยท Posted at 08:55:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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Ktopotato ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 16:06:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad used to let me and my sister paint his toenails. His were always the best to paint because they were so huge compared to ours - it was easier to get nail polish on them and not all over his foot instead. We used to paint each one a different colour and he would walk around for weeks in flip flops with rainbow toes, not giving a fuck.
I miss him.

WarlordTim ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 13:31:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good on you, man, and thanks for the laugh.

breakone9r ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 15:26:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Nah. I don't play dolls with my almost 9 year old daughter. We play Gran Turismo 5, and sometimes she even wins without me letting here win. She cheats my running me off the road the little shit. But I still love her.

Also, we will occasionally go for a ride and I'll let her pull the car into the garage while sitting on my lap.

And she helps me cut the grass.

She doesn't play with dolls much anyway. Only when one of her more girlie friends comes over and insists.. Usually she's on the trampoline, or the swings, or she'll play Skyrim solo, she also has a remote controlled, pink mustang my baby sister gave her for Christmas a couple years back...

I have a tomboy. Although she also loves taking ballet and acrobatics classes, so.. Doesn't really fit into a mold, I guess.

Justanothergirl91 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:36:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Please let her be a "tomboy." Please let her be on the trampoline, on the swings, and play on video games. Please let her play rough if she wants to. I was just like your daughter when I was her age. I didn't care to play with dolls, make up, or nail polish, and my parents would always tell me that I need to be more like a "girl."

breakone9r ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:39:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She can be whatever she wants. Except a little bitch. :)

She's a country girl. Tough as nails, like to wear dresses, but also likes to play in the mud.

As long as it won't kill her, we don't limit her.

CynilAli ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:17:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Damn dude, this shit gave me hope. Thank you.

Maazell ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:19:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

not al heroes wear capes

afruitsnack ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:19:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're an awesome dad. Wish mine had been like that, instead of like many of the fathers in this post.

thelittlepakeha ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:31:51 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hardly ever saw my dad growing up. Long work days during the week, in his home office on the weekends. I love seeing dads not being afraid to look ridiculous playing with their kids now. It makes me so happy.

_GameSHARK ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:23:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What're ya attending university for at 36? Changing careers?

PtolemyShadow ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 15:50:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can attend University anytime you want. You're never too old to learn. I graduated uni with a classmate who was 93. She just wanted to finally say she had a degree.

_GameSHARK ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:00:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sure, but it's not free so there should generally be a reason to attend beyond "because I can." Lots of free information and courses online if you're just wanting to learn something new.

Nephaleus ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:18:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

University is free in some places in the world.

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:03:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And I'm sure it's worth what they pay for it.

EattheRudeandUgly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:09:19 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some people have the money.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:36:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

yeah. i've been a phone operator for years now and am now doing a bachelor of IT

_GameSHARK ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:22:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good luck! :)

lumpymattress ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:35:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You heathen.

johannes101 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 12:58:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

what's the point of having them if you don't want to spend time with them?

To provide workers for Mother Russia

Eariocylla ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:34:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's my parents approach with an extra side of men should have short cut hair. Growing up I was taunted for not wanting short hair and even after trying to bribe me ยฃ200 to cut my hair I didn't give in.

Now I'm the primary carer for my two children (1 month & 1.5 yrs) and I love it! So nice that now stay at home dads are so much more common despite women in public thinking I'm incapable still!

AccountWasFound ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:57:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have a friend whose goal in life is too be an author and stay at home and raise his kids, and he will honestly be awesome at it...

_GameSHARK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:25:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Stay at home dad would be a dream job for me. Well, past the poopy/pukey baby parts. She can have those.

literally_a_possum ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 13:17:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There is an alternative, do the "manly stuff" with the kids. My 6 year old daughter, as it turns out, is not half bad at helping line up a trailer. Teach them to use tools, take stuff apart, maybe even how to put things back together.

flexthrustmore ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 13:52:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that all falls into the category of doing stuff with the kids. my 5 year old daughter loves helping me with the yard work. it's the idea that that stuff is man's work and therefore can and should only be done by men that needs to be forgotten. If my daughter shows an interest in fixing up cars, I'll buy an old clunker and fix it up with her, and if my son wants to do ballet, that's fine too, and both of them started training mma at 4 so they don't ever need to worry about getting bullied for liking stuff that others don't approve of.

Justanothergirl91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:42:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Damn, you sound like an awesome dad! I wish my dad was more like you!

Mozeeon ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:10:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My wife's family comes from a very traditional culture. It took me the first few months of my baby boy's life to convince my mil that I am fully capable of taking care of him unsupervised (and omg, I even enjoy it?!).

The fact that I like to cook literally blows my in law family away half the time. It actually feels like putting my art on the fridge everytime the family is over and it's obvious that I made a bunch of the food rather than my wife.

flexthrustmore ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:34:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

the cooking thing makes me laugh, cooking is women's work and so men are incapable of doing it, yet 90% of all the chefs on t.v. are men. how does that work?

[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 08:06:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

faith in humanity is slowly being restored. YOU GO

atombomb1945 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:44:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandfather told me just after my son was born that he regretted not spending more time with his kids. Four children and he said he may have changed two diapers and held each one once or twice. He then looked at my wife and I and told me to spend as much time as I could with my son and not to get to the end of my life wishing that I had done more. I spend as much time with my son as I can.

mbazdell ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:33:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Different times. Marriage for love is pretty recent for the majority starting around 1930ish. Before, a main factor for marriage was economic benefit. So it wasn't uncommon for couples to have children even if one of them really doesn't want to. It wasn't really an option.

Today you can talk to anybody anywhere on the planet for $10.

_GameSHARK ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:24:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not to mention, there was no pill and... When did latex rubbers become a thing, anyhow? At any rate, the rhythm method has a rather high failure rate.

TheBlandBrigand ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:41:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We're MEN! (Manly men!) We're men in tights! (TIGHT tights!) We roam around the forest looking for fights.

We may look like sissies, But watch what you say or else we'll put out your lights!

SpiralToNowhere ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:59:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One of the best parts of the women's lib movement has been that guys are getting to be more involved fathers. It's good for everyone.

Hamoflague ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:43:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think that's a thing society as whole has to unlearn

mikeyfireman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:10:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's the beauty of camping/fishing. Manly and family friendly.

MirimeVene ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:50:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Won't give you reddit gold cause what you deserve is a mug or finger painted piece saying from your kids saying something along"your th best dad"

Toxicitor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:10:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

to pass on your genetic legacy and live forever!

Kelloa791 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:58:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

what's the point of having them if you don't want to spend time with them?

To do our duty to the party, of course!

Rando_gabby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We made that rule for selfish reasons

karmagirl314 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family was like this about cooking/cleaning. Whenever our family would get together and share a meal, as soon as we were done eating the men (from my 50 year old uncle to my 12 year old cousin) would find somewhere else to be, usually relaxing in front of the tv or sitting on the patio drinking beer, and all the females had to actively participate in cleaning up, no matter how little there was to do, and we all had to stay in the kitchen until everything was done. I didn't even recognize the pattern until my mid-teens. The weirdest part is that no one ever acknowledges it, it's just what's expected, because it's always been done that way.

gnrp45 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I live in a pretty rural area of US and alot of families are still like this. Me and my wife still hang on to the chores stuff. I tend to outdoors stuff and work around the house and she does inside the house. We are in our late twenties and we dont have kids yet but its def not gonna be me ignoring my kids cause its my wife's work.

So we still hang on to some of the older ways and are actually happy with it that way but both of us grew up with the moms being the child caretakers and dont ever want to be like that.

bigalsplaypen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family is big so we've all seen a lot of babies. But the men font get to interact with any but their own kids until they're like 5 or 6. The first time I held a baby was in the Army and at that point I was terrified I would break him. I still feel uncomfortable around kids under 10 because I just don't know what to do. It sucks.

Killa-Byte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:46:48 on August 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To propogate the species.

smack-yo-titties ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:57:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I depends on the relationship. I adore my kids- but my responsibilities in the house are training the dogs, and keeping the house standing. I spend every minute I can with the kids, but when there is actual work to do here, my wife is on it.

flexthrustmore ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 12:16:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I work a lot as well, If you and your wife have a working system with defined roles that's great, All I'm saying is that if you won't push the pram or take your daughter to ballet class because you're afraid your mates will laugh at you, you're just a boy pretending to be a man in my opinion.

smack-yo-titties ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:54:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I would wear a dress around town if it made my daughter smile. Also, I'm a dirty american, what's a pram?

flexthrustmore ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:39:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

a tiny chair on wheels full of mashed bananas that smells like a mix between 5 day old yoghurt and pee.

Toxicitor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:13:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A tiny car that runs on parent-power!

TandalfB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:59:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

hearing this from u/smack-yo-titties somehow gives me great hope for the future. Also, toasting in an epic bread

PhoenixAgent003 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:48:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A British looking stroller.

smack-yo-titties ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:59:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I picture it having a tea kettle and some crumpets. Speaking of, if any of our former overlords wants to ship me some tea and crumpets, I'd love to try them.

Nadieestaaqui ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:26:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When they're old enough, let them "help" with household maintenance. "Helping daddy in the garage" is one of my three year old's favorite things to do, and lets me get work done while hanging out with her.

[deleted] ยท -23 points ยท Posted at 11:43:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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jaredwebd ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:52:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I would like to assume it's sarcasm but with the internet you never can tell. I've got buddys who honestly believe it is woman's work. Nothing in life has any meaning but the meaning we give it.

flexthrustmore ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:00:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

are you that worried about what your mates think of you that you would neglect your family to avoid having them laugh at you? If so, then you, my friend, are a pussy.

Luckyawesome43 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:53:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He might just be a sexist asshole.... look at his search history lmao.

Killgorian ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 12:06:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

But it's woman's work

Edit: /s

dryingsocks ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 12:35:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's a man's work if a man does it, it's a woman's work if a woman does it. Gender roles are bullshit.

Killgorian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:16:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But it's woman's work /s. Sarcasm is poorly conveyed over text. I tried to talk to my Uncle about how his daughter is joining the Navy, which is cool, and his entire reasoning for her not wanting to go was "it's mans work". Literally nothing else. It's a stupid argument on either side.

dryingsocks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:26:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks for the Edit, I needed it

Killgorian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:07:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I tend to forget about it at times lmao. I completely agree with gender roles being bullshit. If a man and a woman can do the same thing then I don't give a fuck about who does it.

Toxicitor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:11:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You might want to put a /s in there, buddy.

mwbbrown ยท 951 points ยท Posted at 02:40:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wash isn't pronounced Warsh. The capital of the United States isn't Warshinton DC.

The school trip to DC was hard on me.

Brandawg_McChizzle ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 05:13:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

my dad can't say Washington, he can only say Warshington.. and he's lived in WA his whole life.

Kazooguru ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 07:24:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My Mom says Warshington, and warsh instead of wash. Native Washingtonian.

[deleted] ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 08:19:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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SchuminWeb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Guessing state and not DC. I live in the DC area, and you don't hear any Rs in Washington here for the most part.

SomeConsumer ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:51:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I lived in Seattle, I heard that pronunciation a lot. Kinda got a kick out of it.

fightms ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:22:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No way....I've never met someone from Washington that couldn't pronounce it properly. Your dad lived a secret life in Kentucky before you were born.

blackgeorgewallace ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:18:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This thread is confusing the shit out of me. My father is from VA and does this. Tidewater, not the KY part of VA. Other folks in this thread have said the Midwest, Washington State and Northern California. Where does this come from and why is it a thing?!

LoneManx ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:06:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maryland (central MD, Baltimore area) and Southern PA do it too.

Knox_Harrington ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:08:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

See I always thought it was a Missouri thing until the last time I saw this come up on reddit, and people from PA, VA, CA, WA, were saying they had it too. This site calls it the American midland accent and says it comes from the pronounciation of Scots-Irish immigrants.

chaos_is_cash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Got a guy at work who does it, he SoCal and of Italian heritage. What's weird is he is the only one who does it in his family

KyosBallerina ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:24:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandmother from Southern California also does this. I have never figured out where she picked it up from, because I have never heard anyone else say it that way.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:56:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

KY for me. My parents and sister do this. Neither of my other two siblings do it, nor do I. It is probably my biggest pet peeve language-wise when people add unnecessary letters or syllables to words. I understand shortening a word, but what on Earth is the logic of making a word take even longer to say?

FoxMadrid ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:53:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Those are the folks that say Ori-gone, right?

danwroy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:57:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Why is everyone tarking funny"

Mystery_Log ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 05:25:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Crick" >> "creek" ?

yn3russ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:24:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Found the Delawarean....Crick is the only pronunciation.

Mystery_Log ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not I. Live in Wyoming.

Derpleganger ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:59:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty sure crick and creek are different things. It's based on the size of the body of water. I believe it's crick, creek, river in order.

Spinfusor ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:19:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I found a few people online drawing a distinction between the two, but I didn't find a single dictionary (or other authoritative source) that did. Most discussion about it refers to it as just a pronunciation difference. On that, the dictionaries all listed either only "creek" or "creek" first.

Why not use brook? There's no disagreement about brook < creek < river. Some places use stream as the general term (e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stream), and some put it as its own entity (either between brook/creek or between creek/river), but brook is always smaller.

I think it makes more sense to use either a completely different word (brook) or a suffix (as in drop/droplet) than it does to imply a diminutive based on a difference in pronunciation.

SheeEttin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:50:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The general term is "tributary".

Spinfusor ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:15:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, a tributary is:

"a stream that flows into a larger stream or river or into a lake"
(i.e. a type of stream)
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tributary

"a river or stream that flows into a larger river or lake" http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/tributary

"A stream that flows into a larger stream or other body of water" https://ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=tributary

"A river or stream flowing into a larger river or lake" http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/tributary

"a stream that flows to a larger stream or other body of water" http://www.dictionary.com/browse/tributary

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:32:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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chaos_is_cash ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:46:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being from the desert those are both rivers to me!

Took me a long time to learn there is a difference between bodies of water I don't have lol

Knox_Harrington ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:16:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

And in the desert, you'd probably be right. It's all relative, which is why the words get used interchangeably. My example of the crick above might be called a creek if it were the only moving water in the area. But if you had a big creek and a small creek in the same area, the big creek is "the creek" the small creek becomes "the crick" so you can say "John Boy's camped out by the creek, but Mavis is down by the crick."

chaos_is_cash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep, it just astounded my hill tribe family that a river to me was a creek you could almost step across simply because I've never seen so much water. I got my revenge when they visited and found out you could lay in grass with out getting attacked by ticks or chiggers

raouldukesaccomplice ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:20:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandfather does this! But my mom and her siblings don't pronounce it that way and neither does my grandmother.

blackgeorgewallace ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:46:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Okay, may I ask where your parents are from? My father is the only person I know who does this and he grew up where I did. I have no idea where this comes from. "Warsh" and the "Chicargo Bulls."

lurkbait ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:27:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My ex's parents did this, they came from Philly. I've heard it in Philly/Jersey/Ohio and some southern areas.

blackgeorgewallace ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:00:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

.... although we were raised in VA, his mother was raised in Philly. I'm gonna blame Philly.

MakeYourOwnLuck ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:13:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I second this. Grew up right outside of Philadelphia and my dad says "warsh" instead of "wash"

Thankfully I didn't pick up the habit.. but every time I point it out after he says it.. he denies saying it that way, and it's annoying as hell..

I LITERALLY JUST HEARD YOU SAY IT DAD, ACCEPT THAT YOU ADDED AN "R" IN THERE

coolpapa2282 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:46:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty common in rural Ohio where I grew up. :)

laaanis ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:44:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is it not pronounced chi-car-go?

pappase36 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:58:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Read this in Ace Ventura voice. "You're outta here!"

mwbbrown ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:23:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maryland, but moved to Florida. It is a local accent in the DC area.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:04:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's also common in the rural south, my grandparents also say warsh.

FishDawgX ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:43:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Both of my parents pronounce it this way too. And that's what I learned. The weird thing is I didn't even notice. I first found out when my high school girlfriend literally laughed in my face one day when I said either Wash or Washington. I try really hard to pronounce it correctly now.

BTW, we are from northern California.

jonbelanger ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:52:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is a Midwest thing according to Google.

BoringSupreez ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 07:07:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm from the Midwest. I've only heard old people say warsh, I think it's going away.

happyzach ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:28:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That and maysure for measure. Or when someone says "we was"

aofhaocv ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:28:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or pronouncing "egg" like "ayyg."

Loverfli ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:29:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My MIL is from the Midwest, and says warsh. She's in her 60s.

charpenette ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:55:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My Midwestern parents are in their 70s and I've noticed that they no longer say warsh, although they said it for most of my childhood. Probably a lifetime of four kids correcting them by saying WASH finally did it.

rareas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:56:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My less educated relatives say it. It's less regional than class.

thebestdaysofmyflerm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:57:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, my grandparents are from Cincinnati and say warsh.

Irish_Shitlord3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:15:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep, Midwesterner here. Grandparents say warsh, mom says it too, dad picked up the habit as well, so I really have to try not to pronounce it like that.

LoneManx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:06:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Central Maryland/Southern PA do it too.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:04:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's quite common in rural parts of the south as well.

pumpkinbot ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:08:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom's side of the family does this a lot. They came from the South, though, so it may just be a dialect thing. None of them have a Southern accent, though, it's just how they learned to say it, I guess.

Built-In ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:08:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Warsh your clothes in the crick.

humicroav ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:14:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't let go of your regional accent! Be proud of where you came from.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:23:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your comment reminds me of this

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:50:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do they axe questions too?

mwbbrown ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:22:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nope, thank god

_warlockja ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:50:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You should ax 'em.

rylos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:34:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

THey better not, or they'll get their mouthes warshed out with soap.

Patq911 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:58:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

brett keane?

Maryland_Mansion ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:07:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Individual?

SergeantMatt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:30:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, situation.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:20:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Patq911 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:03:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

brett keane is a manatee like situation individual who dmcas people, slanders people, and is all around a bad person.

http://drunken-peasants-wiki.com/wiki/Brett_Keane

but he's funny to make fun of.

SheeEttin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:50:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

MOM?

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:17:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

DORN!!!

Kalikkelly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I used to spell it this way as a kid, wasn't until I failed the spelling test did I realize something was wrong! Warshington

DreamerOfSheep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom does this. Never actually noticed it myself until we actually went to Washington (or "Warshington") D.C.

BabyJourney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

With all the nasty fighting going on there, it might as well be called Warshington, D.C.

unholy_abomination ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:25:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also: It's "ghee-yuh-teen," not "gill-uh-teen." My mother lied to me for years and she used fucking Madeline to do it!!!!

quinnpm5256 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:42:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i just read that in my grandpas voice

rcattt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:43:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you from St. Louis? Our school trip to DC had that same lesson! Lol.

afroturf1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I needed that laugh.

DowagerCountess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Apparently it's an indicator of a large German America population

foobar12345678910 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My English teacher says "wartch" instead of "Watch"

Let's wartch a movie everybody!

LAW1205 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:22:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandpa pronounces wash like warsh too. Here is the kicker, he has lived in washington state almost his entire life.

DrMadlove ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:06:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ewww a wash family

mr_smurf693 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The south I'm assuming? A lot of people down here say that shit. It's funny.

Kareus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:16:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Boston or New York??!??!!

EliteParaphraser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:30:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Midwesterner reporting in! I know alot of people who pronounce Wash like Warsh.

unrelatedtoelephants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:31:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad was raised in southwest PA & pronounces it warsh, too. (yay Pittsburghese!)

pos_cant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:51:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

this is by far my favorite answer for some reason

TheBeardOfMoses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:53:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's a pretty common accent. It's hard fo say something said with an accent is incorrect per se

saztak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:04:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought this was a Kansas thing, but seeing the other comments tells me it must be more of an old-timey/rural thing. My rural-grandparents would say 'warsh'. My mom had it for a while, but when she was in the air force, she got teased about it and doesn't say it like that much now.

Both grandparents add an H in front of wh-words. Like hank hill, 'boy I tell ya hwat'. I've noticed I do this from time to time too.

GuttersnipeTV ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:16:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do they even leaf on the wind?

fufabunny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:18:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My boyfriends family decided couches are counches. I can't even hide my laughter every time they say it.

CaptainWigglezz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:03:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom always said warsh, I learned later that it sounds better as wash. From MO btw

Graphite_Smear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:07:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"You need to warsh the dishes." "No way dad. I'll wash them but I won't warsh them."

pieceofsnake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:17:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You were raised by Goof Troop eh?

rinjin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:29:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandma and my dad saw wash as warsh...they're from Virginia so maybe it's an accent thing..

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:29:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've heard someone pronounce "oil" as "erl"

sparklesparklemeow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:44:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you from Oklahoma?

makeinstall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:57:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In the uk, there are clear divisions between how you pronounce various words and you'll get dirty looks from those who pronounce it the other way.

Outsiders think that religion has been that root cause of sectarian violence in this country but this is the real reason.

Some examples are:

Bath (baff or barth)
Scones (skone or scon)
Grass (graass or grarse)

TheresThatSmellAgain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:22:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shouldn't have been too bad. A lot of people in Maryland add the 'R'.

LysandersTreason ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:56:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Got a lot of family who talk about "warshrags"... my grandma says striped with two syllabals... stripe-ed... drowned-ed, etc

BluesFan43 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:58:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That fucking R. I hate it.

Warsh

Drawring

Write that down for me and sound it out, will ya.

bigtimesauce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:18:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Please for the love of god tell me you're from rural Vermont.

mwbbrown ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:21:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sorry, Florida with parents from MD

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:04:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Figured this out in Highschool. My dad still says warsh.

mellowfish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:05:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I lived in Spocain Warshington for most of my life, according to my in-laws. Luckily my parents were from the midwest/west coast and were able to pronounce things just fine.

FreshFromRikers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:10:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad does this. He also has never "pressed" or "pushed" a button, only "mashed" them. He'd tell me to "mash" a certain button on the remote and I'd hit the whole surface with the palm of my hand just to mess with him. Also the past tense of "attack" is used in the present. "You got to Attacked the defense!" Now he takes credit for my writing career because he drove me so crazy growing up, haha.

millicow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:19:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandparents do that too. I grew up with them and it took until I was probably about 6 when my uncle explained to me that it's actually wash and not warsh. I almost didn't believe him. Seriously, why do people say warsh? It doesn't make any sense, especially coming from my grandma who raised me to speak with good grammar and would correct me if I said something a certain way.

drunkadvice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:26:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pittsburgh? My great grandmother did this.

freshlybakedteehee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:58:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A fellow Missourian? Also forty is pronounced farty.

PlacentaBurritos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:15:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was little people used to joke that we "take the r out of slippery and add it to wash". I never really understood it because I grew up in the francophone area and hadn't heard anyone say "warsh" before. Then, finally in my teens, I met someone who said warsh. She was my softball coach and it was like catching that elusive white whale I was in such awe. Anyway I began to say warsh ironically and now I find it hard to say wash normally.

flibbidygibbit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:50:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you or your parents from Iowa?

PtolemyShadow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:53:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's a regional dialect thing. Pretty much everyone around here says it with an R. We know there isn't an R though and maybe that makes a difference?

kawiant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:08:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's bottled warter!

https://youtu.be/R1iwVklkK4I

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:32:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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mwbbrown ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom likes to call Mozilla Firefox "Fox Fire". She knows now, but she still does it to get under my skin

Savannahbobanna1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Syrup is not surp. Sheriff is not sherf.

The-Judger-of-Facts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ya I'm still saying Hoowaii instead of Hawaii.

Penn25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:34 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In middle school every week someone was assigned to wash the table at the end of lunch, because of this it became known to everyone that I said "warsh" instead of "wash," I was then bullied into the correct pronunciation, but hey I'm good now so.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:26:17 on August 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother does the same thing. She was born and grew up in Pittsburgh.

drinkscocoaandreads ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:35 on August 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I catch myself doing that on occasion, though my father has never said it (he's from Northern Ohio as opposed to Southern like my mom). My mom does it too, though the one that slips out the most is "crick" instead of "creek".

Rainspa ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:06:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Raised in the Seattle 'burbs. Warshington it is. Waaaaashington is what people from out of state say. With their pinkies raised. They also mispronounce De(silent "s") Moines.

_warlockja ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:49:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Born, raised, lived all my life in the "Seattle 'burbs" I have no idea what you are talking about. I had a elementary teacher once that insisted there was nothing wrong with her adding the r in wash. Apparently many years of students teased her about it. Also, people from here say "Deh Moy'n" dropping both s's.

Rainspa ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:14:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't know what to tell you. I had no idea that I added an "r" to Warshington 'til I left the state. Lived and worked in Deh Moynz. I swear by the Waterland Festival and the fish with tits, it's deh moynz.

theniceguytroll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:40:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's pronounced "dey mwahn," right?

Rainspa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:43:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

de moynz, Warshington. In the Midwest they have a city that is spelled the same.

PopcornInMyTeeth ยท 589 points ยท Posted at 23:12:02 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you can always do better. Not that that's intrinsically bad, but when you don't learn to stop and appreciate what you've accomplished, you'll never be satisfied.

i_like_turtles_1969 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 03:43:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"You have mostly A's, but one of your teachers said you're not living up to your potential, so you're not allowed to play video games until your grades are all up to an A"

fuckyesnewuser ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 04:14:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Me: "I got an A in that Math test. It was really difficult!"

Dad: "Did someone get a better grade?"

Me: "This girl got an A+."

Dad: "Well, you could have done better then, right?"

My parents still think it was a funny way to push me to do better. It was all very tongue-in-cheek. I just stopped saying much about my school performance after junior high.

Rotom-W ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:30:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents were kinda the same way. I am a smart dude but I have trouble remembering things.

When I work my ass off to get like a 87 on a hard af test, they get like sad and be like aw really no A.

I would get so depressed about it because in my mind I was so proud of myself.

It's mostly because I am an A , B student and they wanted straight A's.

MakeYourOwnLuck ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 13:06:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have the "you can do better" mentality.. it fucking sucks. Unlike you though, mine isn't entirely from my parents. Yes my dad always made sure to emphasize the importance of an education so we could go to college and get a great paying job with great benefits, so I "could have a better life than he did", but my mindset was mainly from growing up very poor..

I never realized how dirt poor we actually were until I moved out and it was fucking eye opening. It's not normal to have your electricity/water shut off or to run out of heat and sleep in layers with a space heater in winter. It's not normal to run out of food, get turkeys from food banks for thanksgiving, or have fast food be a treat when you can afford it. Etc etc

Now every job I get, I'm always thinking "ok work this job until you find a better, higher paying job. This one isn't good enough." Like right now.. i work at a college, i make good money and my benefits are insanely good.. yet im still trying to get a better job

I'm very cheap as well.. I feel guilty every time I spend money on something I don't absolutely NEED.. It's gotten to the point where if I spend ANY money, I stress for days with the fear of not being able to pay my bills.

I'm not used to having medical insurance, so when I'm sick I tough it out until I absolutely have to go see someone.. or I deal with tooth pain until it's unbearable before I see someone..

Growing up poor fucks you up, too.

Kareus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:15:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

thanks i really needed this. :)

I hope that I have elated many people this morning by commenting on reddit, rather than completing my thesis!... i made myself sad :(

mr_yad ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:00:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This definitely rings true for me. I studied my arse off for my Standard Grades to get 6 1s and 2 2s, only for my mum to say "next time those will be better". Again worked hard for my Highers and got 3 As and 2 Bs - of course this wasn't good enough either and I was told to work hard and improve them. 6th year I got 2 Higher As and an Advanced Higher A - "that's more like it". No "well done"/congratulations on my results, just a sense of disappointment at the 2s/Bs. My best friend, on the other hand - not academically strong but by no means stupid - got 3s/4s/5s and Bs/Cs for Intermediate 1/2 (1/2 levels below Highers - I'm in Scotland) and his parents were delighted as he'd tried his best and put in a lot of effort. I still find it difficult to realise and appreciate my achievements rather than criticise what I've done, even though I know this is partly the cause of my stress and unhappiness. I am very fortunate to have a fiancรฉe who is essentially my cheerleader and champion - she is great in helping me realise the positives and achievements in what I do.

niklapton ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:09:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly same thing happens to me. I am in med school. Decently good guitarist. Overachiever in many other things. Still i feel like i am total loser because I cant seem to appreciate my achievements because my parents kept pushing me to do better and never acknowledge that I have done something good

Jagdgeschwader ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:20:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think your looking at it the wrong way. It shouldn't be applied to your career so much as your character/who you are as a person.

PopcornInMyTeeth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm all for working on yourself in a multitude of ways. Ive just found it detrimental to my confidence to have the good just be accepted as normal, but the criticism be explicitly mentioned. There just needs to be a balance. But that's just me.

Jagdgeschwader ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:20 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think we just see things through different viewpoints; I see things has an exciting opportunity to improve myself rather than some sort of condemnation of the person I am.

My 'mission' so to speak is to be the best possible person I can be (from a character quality standpoint) simply through awareness (rather than effort), so it doesn't feel arduous. The end goal isn't something that can actually be achieved, it can only be starved for (i.e. you can't really fail to accomplish something that is impossible to accomplish, do you know what I mean? At least not in the intuitive sense).

I was inspired by the self-improvement plan that Demetri Martin talked about in his stand up (on YouTube), but his system was more effort based and it felt too much like a chore so I created my own system.

Essentially, I just pay attention to things, and when I see something of value I make a note of it in this excel spreadsheet and then try to integrate into my person. This works in all aspects of life: something funny someone says, advice, vocab words, etc. The most notable improvement I've seen is with respect to writing - if a see well worded sentence, phrase, or clever idiom, I log it into the database. After a while, things start to accumulate and you get this repertoire of words and phrases.

I'm 27 and I've been doing this for a few years now. Things are sort of slow at first and there's a natural tendency to try to hammer things into situations where they really don't belong, but after a while the entire thing becomes very natural and smooth and the improvements are unmistakable. And the best part is it feels almost effortless after a while and there isn't any pressure.

dontthrowmeinabox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:49:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sure I don't know what you mean, you forget yourself.

narudeus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:17:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The thing is that I have this mentality without my parents.It's part of my personality and to be honest - it fuuucking sucks.You know that you can do better but you fail and you are more dissapointed with yourself and feel like complete failure and are veeery hurt.You may even develop depression at some point.You stive perfection in everything - even relationships.

SheetShitter ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:36:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think modern Internet and social media has given me this sickness. I have a great life and I struggle to stop and smell the roses. I'm constantly in fear of failing and losing it all and need need need a better car, better job, bigger savings account etc.

necrophcodr ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:09:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's not internet and social media. You're fooling yourself if you think people didn't feel like that 50 years ago.

SheetShitter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:24:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But now it's all in our faces all day every day, I think it's a different environment now

necrophcodr ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:51:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Even so, that's just an amplifier, it's not the cause. Solve the problem, as opposed to making it less obvious.

TheWeredude ยท 1289 points ยท Posted at 01:08:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Eat shitty. We never ate vegetables. Always starches and crap. So much processed bullshit.

I'm 28 and finally have managed to retrain my palate to eat vegetables regularly. I do my best to eat plenty of veggies every day of all different types, and I'm very concerned with my health and fitness. Passing this on to my son is super important to me.

ShameYourBrains ยท 369 points ยท Posted at 05:08:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you me? Lol seriously though, my mom has always eaten like a teenager whose parents are out of town. We lived off of (she still does) boxed meals, microwaveable dinners, fast food, and pizza. Big surprise I grew up obese.

I'm 28 now, I have 2 daughters that I want to grow up knowing how to eat healthy and I'm determined to set the right example. I made it a resolution on New year's day 2015 to get healthy and I meant it. I've lost 77 pounds so far Just by eating right and watching my calorie intake. Also only 40 pounds from my goal weight!

My mom used to enjoy "shopping" in my kitchen. Now she opens my fridge and pretends to gag because there's no junk. Then she asks why I never buy chips or frozen pizza anymore. She'll never change but I have, and my daughters will grow up so much healthier than I did for it.

Thsu ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 10:34:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Amazing work! I believe that you can make it!

I would also recommend some sort of physical activity, I'm in the same boat as you not eating junk if can be avoided.

If you're on the taller side I'd recommend swimming since it prevents back problems which is normal for tall people to get.

Source : I am 6"8' and my back hurt so bad before I began swimming

ShameYourBrains ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 12:42:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you! I do a lot of physical activity, I work full time and I'm a single mom. I just don't have time to go to a gym or anything. But my kids keep me very active. My 5 year old loves swimming, so maybe I'll look into doing a class, that is a really good idea it would be fun and healthy for us to do together.

Manburpigx ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 12:42:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good for you! Keep up the hard work.

You're setting a great example for your children.

ShameYourBrains ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:54:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you!

bugdog ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:35:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit. I just realized that I am only 40lb from my goal weight, too. I've also lost 70lb, but it's been over a lot longer time. I finally broke 180 last week. It's really hard for me to see any difference, although I know it's there because I had to buy new jeans that were 16s instead of 22s. (I'm really short)

I moved from an almost all carb diet to a normal diet and that's what's made the most difference for me. That and cutting out sodas almost completely.

Thank you for the huge reminder and best of luck to you!

ShameYourBrains ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:28:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good for you! I love talking to people who have been in a similar situation. There are some things people just don't get if they haven't been there. I wore a size 24 when I started losing. I kept wearing the same clothes until finally people started telling me how ridiculous I looked. I went shopping for clothes and found out I was an 18. I couldn't have been more excited. I'm in a 14 now, and I haven't been this size since junior high. Sometimes I stop and stare at my reflection, not to be vain, just out of pure awe that I look so different now. I really wish I had started this journey years ago.

JenAndOllie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:10:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is how you parent !!!

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:57:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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ShameYourBrains ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:55:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you so much for the kind words. My oldest is 5 years old and my youngest is 7 months old.

ee_bird ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:51:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're awesome! It is no easy feat to change eating habits, especially when your family isn't supportive. Congratulations on your healthy journey!

ShameYourBrains ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:57:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

People in this thread are awesome for being so supportive! Thank you, this is so encouraging.

Smaug_the_Tremendous ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 10:20:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow you planned to lose nearly my whole weight.

ShameYourBrains ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 14:59:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not plan to, I WILL lose nearly your whole weight.

Smaug_the_Tremendous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You go Glenn Coco

BNLboy ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 04:16:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This one hits home for me. My dad would always remark or make faces when my mom would make and eat vegetables. He probably thought it was funny or cute when we were young. He is a full bred meat and potatoes son of a farmer hank hill clone.

I looked up to him and would believe I didn't like vegetables either. I wouldn't eat any veggies until I was a couple of years into college. It started with chinese food and I'm slowly eating more veggies. I can't believe I neglected my taste buds so much flavor for so long.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:18:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad is like this too. Eats like shit all day and wonders why he can't lose weight. I'm positive he's lying to my mom about his health because he doesn't eat fruit or vegetables. I made some kielbasa with green peppers and onions and a side of green beans for dinner and he only ate the meat and grabbed a bag of chips (and ate half of it).

IDefyAxioms ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:23:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You think vegetables are flavorful?

I must be broken.

Dick_Dandruff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:27 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You disguise them in butter and oil to sneak them into your mouth utility brain-fuhrur let's them in willingly

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:49:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

man, we grew up poor as fuck but we always had good homecooked meals. i'm grateful for that. knowing how to cook is a no-brainer in my family.

efrique ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 01:46:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

retrain my pallet

That squicked my brain so hard I completely forgot how to spell the word for a minute.

[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 03:55:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

All I could think of is a guy telling a wood pallet to roll over or something

Mysterious_X ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:49:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Probably because it's supposed to 'palate'

efrique ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:49:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, it just took me a minute to get the wrong picture out of my head because of the odd spelling

durdyg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So many lolz

Flinkle ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 04:47:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I grew up thinking I hated vegetables. Nope, I just hate canned vegetables. Not faulting my mom--she was a busy, tired, single mother. But I was shocked to later find out that I adore almost any fresh vegetable.

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:43:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Flinkle ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:46:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I live in the south, where we cook the living shit out of our green beans with some sort of pork in the broth. Dear Jesus, they're fantastic.

bugdog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:40:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's usually fatback in my family which I believe is like a mostly fat chunk of bacon.

I remember sitting on the back porch with my great grandmother snapping fresh green beans.

The sad thing is that I hated those things when I was a kid. Now Od give damn near anything in the world to have them. Thankfully my dad can be talked into fixing green beans a couple times a year.

Flinkle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I remember sitting on the back porch with my great grandmother snapping fresh green beans.

Same here, with my grandmother...one of my favorite memories. My little grandmother was an absolute gem.

ShadowSlayer74 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:13:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can only tolerate fresh vegetables, canned or most frozen ones just taste wrong to me.

I knew this growing up but my parents still try to trick me sometimes.

himynameislydia ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:37:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think you mean "palate" my dude

Simim ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:00:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just make sure you don't deny him the existence of candy

Because that'll turn into his future crack

TheWeredude ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:20:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everything in moderation! Another lesson I had to teach myself. I'd be lying if I said I couldn't destroy a bag of Oreos by myself. Lol

Iusedtobeonimgur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:37:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's me ! I don't buy candy because when I do, I eat them until I feel sick. And then some more.

ImAFiggit ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:38:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My diet growing up was a lot of bread an pasta and other carbs, and now I've learned that it was only really ok for me because of my thyroid condition, so I've started doing the same thing, more green stuff and more meats.

3jt ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:17:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

pallet

Pallets are for forklifts.

Palates (hard and soft) are the things in your mouth.

spiritbx ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:59:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I work in residences and some fo the residents can NEVER eat any vegetables.

Some of them will outright refuse the plate if it has vegetables on it(instead of eating around it like a normal person.

One of them had to have his meals prepared desperately without any veggies in it.

Those residents tend to be very fat since they are always hungry for 2nd portions of the starch and entree since they never fill up on veggies.

the_sloth_bear ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:07:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I eat lots of pickles

hardyhaha_09 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:58:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So corn and potatoes aren't vegetables? Nothing wrong with starches friend. Sounds like you just lacked variety with vegetables.

TheWeredude ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:20:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Starches in excess are generally not recommended especially for people lacking in physical activity.

hardyhaha_09 ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 05:25:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Link? Proof? Article?

New research says the opposite by John McDougall, Dr Michael Gregor, Dr Niel Bernard.

TheWeredude ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:39:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Dr Michael Eades, Dr Tim Noakes, Gary Taubes, Dr Lyle McDonald, Dr Jeff Volek, Dr Stephen Phinney have all written extensively on the subject of the consumption of unnecessary carbohydrates in the modern western diet and it's health effects on the general population.

EDIT: every reference you made is a strong advocate for vegetarian or even raw vegan diets and holistic disease healing. One going so far as to say even one egg a week can cause diabetes(Dr Michael Gregor).

hardyhaha_09 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 05:41:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Tim Noakes? Seriously? I'll get back to you when I'm on a pc rather than mobile sorry.

TheWeredude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:54:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Save yourself the time, friend. I adhere strongly to a high fat and protein, low to moderate carb diet and have for 5 years. I've lost almost 70 pounds and gotten in the best physical and mental shape of my life. My wife has been veggie for 10+ years and hasn't been able to convert me.

SD__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:16:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eat meat. Take life easy and whore around until you get hitched. Kids always do the opposite.

fufabunny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:17:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ugh my boyfriends mom never made him even TRY fruits or vegetables in his ENTIRE LIFE. We have to make two versions of almost every meal, what I call the good one and the bland one.

Gefarate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:35:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What vegetables, if you don't mind me asking? I'd like to start eat more too but I have no clue...

TheWeredude ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:08:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nowadays I eat a ton of broccoli, asparagus, brussel sprouts, spinach, and artichokes(!!). Broccoli has become a serious staple of my diet. I love it.

Hunyapop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:04:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

so.. youre saying that isnt how youre supposed to eat?

fuck.

Iusedtobeonimgur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:35:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Girlfriend was raised that way. She's 25 and refuses to eat any veggies except for potatoes. I had to force her to try rice, which she now enjoy, but anything else, no way.

MontyHallsGoatthrowa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:36:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I'm in a near by boat. My mom cooked the most amazing food, but none of it was healthy. And eating a lot was considereal impressive. My mom has diabetes now, and everyone in my family is overweight.

I'm trying to retrain myself too. I'm just not doing such a great job of it.

yoman632 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:13:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I actually managed to make my mom eat healthy, I'm so proud of her.

ee_bird ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:50:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're a great parent :)

Dirtsniffer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We grew up with vegetables at every meal and love them since my dad knew how to cook them well (steam fresh veggies instead of making them look like over cooked canned veggies). My mom grew up hating veggies because my grandma overcooked them and covered them in butter and pepper. I never understood why my cousins (mom's sisters kids) didn't like vegetables.

fingawkward ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My god, this. My parents' idea of a balanced meal is bacon and biscuits. When I ended up going on a doctor monitored diet because I was 150 lbs overweight, I had convince them that potatos, rice, etc. do not count as vegetables, and adding half a stick of margarine to a can of peas pretty much negates any of the benefits. I still struggle to get them to eat anything I eat but I'm slowly getting them to come around to steaming some vegetables and grilling some chicken for dinner instead of sausage, biscuits, and a huge bowl of cereal afterward.

RossBossTM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I work in a super market and once somebody came up to me and asked me what's a good vegetable to eat, I wasn't sure how to answer because there's so many there or was hard to pick one and say it was the best, I told him it's all kinda preference and I gave him some of my preferences he was very thankful and he said he had never ate vegetables before. I was really shocked to find out that some family's never even bother to buy any healthy food for their children

TheWeredude ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:47:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly the extent of our vegetables was canned corn and mashed or baked potatoes. I literally didn't even try most vegetables until I was living on my own and determined to get myself in better health. It was a really difficult transition for me, but my wife being veggie was always pushing me to try new things. She's been very supportive of me and encouraged me to try what she'd make for herself or give me suggestions and now I eat veggies almost every meal

RossBossTM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:11:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm glad to hear about you're determination to be healthy, a lot of people could learn from you. I find that I just feel better in general when I eat healthy. I recently just quit eating fast food for good.

k-squid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:11:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had similar. My mom was an incredibly picky eater. Everything plain, no sauces, garnish, toppings. Her pizza was dough and cheese. She only ate plain hamburgers. My dad was the opposite and would eat almost anything. I was closer to my mom, and started being picky when I was little. My mom felt like a hypocrite when she would tell me to eat vegetables, and I was a little shit enough to point out that she didn't eat any vegetables, lol.

As a result, I grew up eating nothing but processed crap, starches, and refusing to drink water. Around 18, I realized I needed to cut the crap. I wanted to eat better. I wanted to eat more foods, and so I did.

Then came having to relearn the poor eating habits my dad instilled in me. He had the "finish everything on your plate" mentality coupled with "load your plate sky high". I ate myself into a food coma on the daily to avoid being shouted at for "wasting" food. It's a lot to work around, lol.

noahsonreddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:03:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Palate when talking about culinary tasting

Pallets are the wooden platforms used to transport goods

clubby37 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Passing this on to my son is super important to me

Then make sure not to over-sell it! If you overplay your hand, he'll be on here in 20 years, answering a similar post with "My heart won't explode if I have a cupcake once in a while."

HaIloweenTown ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:28:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How about you pass on to your son that no matter what he eats it's not going to replace hard work and training which is how you actually stay healthy.

TheWeredude ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:16:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can't out work a bad diet man. What you out into your body is the most important thing for health. I love training though and I can't wait until he's old enough to be interested in lifting.

sw00dd00dswitht00ds ยท 1870 points ยท Posted at 00:12:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

That mental health is, "For pussies." It's okay to feel negative emotions such as anger or sadness. I wish I could have found this out earlier.

Edit: Wow. I've gotten a few comments and A LOT of pm's about people who have had very similar scenarios. I know it's kinda stupid to say this, but I've been told so many times that, "You're not alone" or, "Lots of people have had unsupportive families." But reading everyone's stories has really put it into perspective. I honestly can't put it into words. Shit, /u/ImAFiggit I'm crying right now thinking about it. Thank you all so much.

ImAFiggit ยท 194 points ยท Posted at 04:41:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This. I grew up around a dad who was on antidepressants and shit, and I was always taught that I wasn't allowed l show emotion because I was supposed to be a man.

Now I'm not saying I cry a lot, but it does feel good after so long of not having any emotions for fear of my parents disapproval.

sw00dd00dswitht00ds ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 05:01:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shit I'll say it. I cry a lot. It seriously helps. One thing lots of therapy has taught me is that bottling up your emotions affects more than just your mind. It actually has serious effects on your entire body. It's really nice to hear that you've come to a very similar realization. :)

[deleted] ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 06:17:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shit. I cry a few times a week. I'm a grown ass man, marine vet, and some times in the drive home from work, I'll just have a private cry concert in my car. Ain't no shame.

mommatiely ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 06:28:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No shame at all. You've probably seen a lot of messed up shit. It's okay to feel, as you're saying here.

[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 06:34:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not really, I was fortunate enough to to have never deployed despite my constant attempts. Life just gets stressful and sometimes I need to let it out. My wife knows and comforts me, she helps a lot.

Osiasya ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 07:26:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

some times in the drive home from work, I'll just have a private cry concert in my car

I totally do this same thing. I am going through shit tons of Therapy right now to try and bring back my emotions so I can process my abusive childhood but the only place I cry is in my car while I am driving home for some reason.

TandalfB ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:32:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

someone should start a campaign #MenWithFeels, #FeelingLikeAMan or maybe #FeelsLikeAMan

smithee2001 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:02:40 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You may end up discouraging a good number of them with that narcissistic, self-congratulatory hashtag bullshit.

SheeEttin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:49:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

#FeelsLikeAMan #LooksLikeALady

maiden-of-movement ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:36:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No shame whatsoever, Sir. Although I can't help but empathize and honestly say it rips at my heart knowing our marines are so negatively impacted.

drunky_crowette ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 12:33:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I cry all the fucking time. My dad still calls me a crybaby so I just snap back "at least I can feel". I happy cry, sad cry, angry cry, hurt cry, no damn reason cry. Feels good man.

Zack1018 ยท 557 points ยท Posted at 01:36:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's ok to fail. It's ok to be unhappy. It's ok to love yourself. It's ok to cry. It's ok to have passions that are not your dad's passions. So much stuff I needed to learn.

[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 06:49:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's ok to have passions that are not your dad's passions.

I think this started, for me, an expectation that I'm suppose to have the same interests as whomever I'm talking to. Still very weird to talk to my dad about something hat I'm interested in that he isn't. His disinterest is palpable

BewhiskeredWordSmith ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:45:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

His disinterest is palpable

This has been my experience every Christmas, birthday and Father's Day. He pretends to be grateful, but he's a terrible actor.

My girlfriend and I try really hard every time to find something that he doesn't have and would improve something he already does (butane hand warmer for skiing, phone mount for his bicycle, etc.)

In 26 years, the only gift I've ever seen him actually use was a pair of needle-nose vice grips, which he uses for work all the time.

My favourite example was the time my mom went with him to an electronics store and told him that she would get him anything he wanted, since he's so difficult to buy for.

He ended up returning what he picked out and getting something else, and he hasn't used it in the 9 years since he got it.

Stuffyluffy ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 06:58:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can't teach myself that it's okay to fail. Feels so bad, man.

WildVariety ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:12:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

it's ok to fail, it's not ok to learn nothing from that failure and apply it when you try again.

WildVariety ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:12:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just learning to say 'it's ok' to yourself is a pretty important step for a lot of people.

Prison_Vape ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:33:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck I needed to see this from someone else... I've been telling myself this for a few months now and things have been significantly better. But I still struggle because I never really feel like its the truth.

But I tell myself that its okay, because I have to. If I fail, I say, "its okay. You'll get em next time", but I still have that feeling of, "I've failed. Everything is over. Everyone is disappointed and its all my fault."

I tell myself, "go ahead and cry, dude. Just let yourself feel it and get it out"

Then I cry for hours because its been so fucking long... And it's extended because I feel weak, pathetic, and ashamed. "It's okay to feel, dude. It's okay."

But even still, I have a really hard time believing it. It's scary because I don't allow myself to feel and cope with my emotions, and when I do it's amplified because it stays bottled for so long.

I just wanna be strong like you, dad.

afruitsnack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your first sentence made me cry, and I know it's okay. Parents, what? I parented myself more than they did.

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MetalRetsam ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 04:59:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As far as religious 'solutions' to mental health problems go, this has to be the shittiest one ever. It's the one job Christianity has: aiding the broken and the confused.

At least 500 years ago people would have been perceptive enough to note that God has a difficult and cryptic plan for you, but one that will ultimately end in happiness. At least they wouldn't have dismissed your existence on such a basic level.

Shabobi ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 06:13:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad thinks it's a simple "funk" that I can just willy nilly get out of.

It's incredibly infuriating to have him think this way.

[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 07:00:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've got a cousin going through the same thing. She's attempted suicide several times at this point, yet as far as I know her parents still haven't brought her to get proper psychiatric help. Just prayers and a few exorcisms.

If they keep this shit up then I honestly don't expect her to be around that much longer. Even worse is that there's not much I can do about it other than watch her continue to deteriorate.

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:46:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I really hope she at least knows you care. My mother was abusive and I struggled a lot with depression and suicidal ideation because of her. I know they have their own lives, but I really wish my siblings had helped me look for help or at least asked if I was okay every now and then. I told my brother I was suicidal because of my mom and all he did was tell her, and then I got yelled at. He didn't even recommend that I call a hotline.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:52:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Unfortunately I really don't get to talk to her that often. Her parents are very strict about who she's in contact with and barely tolerate me as is. They'd probably think I'm just trying to "corrupt" her or something.

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:36:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mine too. My mom just laughed when I first tried to tell her I was depressed, then my family performed an exorcism on me when I was 16. Fuck those crazy people.

Rather_Unfortunate ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:24:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How can people genuinely believe in demons and exorcism in a modern first world country and access to education? It's utterly baffling to me. I've never even heard of someone doing exorcisms in the UK this side of, like, 1800 or so. I'd honestly assume people had a psychiatric issue if they said something about demons. And to do it to a 16 year old as well... you'd risk having the child protection services paying a visit if you did that here.

TripleBs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom did an at home exorcism when I was 21 because I'm gay.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:47 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sorry that happened to you. I'm so glad to be away from my fanatically religious parents.

sw00dd00dswitht00ds ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:53:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow that must have been awful. Luckily my parents were pretty adamant about choosing my own religious path. That must have really sucked I'm sorry.

spinningblue ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:40:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I consider this child abuse. While I welcome freedom of religion, not providing your child with physical OR MENTAL health care should have consequences.

[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 05:56:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Osiasya ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:30:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Inside out made me cry (of course alone in my car where no one can see). I was also raised to just be happy, but not too happy of course because then I would be annoying.

Arthro_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:28:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Inside Out was a reality check for me.
Suppressing emotion is what I did best, It kinda changed me for the better.

It also has a fucking amazing soundtrack.

Thekrakentamer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:26:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow I need to watch this movie! I feel exactly what you mentioned in your comment.

TaylorS1986 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:45:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is such a cute movie!

Fooled_You ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 05:19:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Boys don't cry.

But men do.

Meh_McSadsterson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:18:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

YES

Squidblimp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:28:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eh.

I'd disagree.

Both boys and men cry, but for different reasons.

Fooled_You ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:50:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah this works well too

najodleglejszy ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:19:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

reminds me of when I got so depressed last year that my mom herself suggested that I should go to a psychiatrist, who suggested seeing a therapist, which I did. a couple of weeks later my mom accused me of visiting a therapist as an excuse for being too lazy to study for exams.

Death_By_Penguins ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 07:12:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was diagnosed with Generalized Anxiety Disorder and Psychotic Depression. Step dad basically didn't believe in mental illness that wasn't Hollywood's depiction of a psychopath, thought I was making it up for attention and all that. Getting medicine that you need to function like a normal person is difficult when a parent thinks you can just will away problems like that.

tah4349 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:24:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes! That's my parents too. They don't believe in mental illness until it reaches the crazy homeless person screaming at a pickle level. Depression? You have nothing to be depressed about. Anxiety? Calm down. Suicide is just people being selfish and solving their temporary problems with permanent solutions. Therapy is selfish. And so on and so on.

Karamoo ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:07:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm in a completely different boat. When I was younger I was bullied loads at school, around 12/13 I told my Mum I was depressed a few times. She had always been caring/over protective, but she told me I wasn't depressed at all. Got through it all in the end but I wish she could have taken me seriously.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:00:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Cylon_Toast ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:36:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'd seriously concider therapy again, or try to get some meds or something. I just let go of a really bad psychiatrist and while it does happen, generally, therapy does not make it worse.

It's always okay to need help getting better, but at least try to get better.

But you know, I'm just a stranger from the internet, you don't have to listen to me. But just know, sincerely, I am here for you. I may not know exactly what you're going through but I van relate at least somewhat. If you need anything, just let me know.

Karamoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:23:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow, that's fucked. Doubt this will do any good but don't think that way man. Just keep pushing forward, hopefully things work out for you :)

SmallLumpOGreenPutty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mum always used to go on about how she'd "been through hard times" and then trotted out the lines about how she'd just had to get on with life and work three jobs because she had me to look after. Or she'd tell me to get off my computer (where I talked to my very small circle of friends) and go for a walk, as if my depression was down to being plugged into the matrix and not getting enough fresh air.

No, it was because of bullying throughout my time at school, plus the fact that I was still teaching myself how to hide my then-crippling assburgers, and dealing with fallout from school peers when I didn't quite succeed.

ToBeReadOutLoud ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:40:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm on the other side of the coin, and only in the last few years am I realizing that my experience wasn't universal.

My parents have always been incredibly helpful and understanding when it came to dealing with my psychological issues. That support system truly makes a huge difference between being able to manage or rise above your difficulties or drowning in them.

Reading comments like hours makes me sad because I think every kid deserves to at least have that support. I'm glad you've worked things out, though.

Parents: You don't have to be perfect, but please, please try to be understanding and supportive of your kids, especially when they're dealing with hardships. It can literally be the difference between life and death.

Gespierdeman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:13:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

this one hits home hard :'c

PizzaRollsAndWeed ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:39:35 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This man. Im a girl but i got told to suck it up/stop being an attention whore/faker. I have severe social anxiety and depression. I can live with it now just fine, but it was hard growing up with that mindset being pounded into my head.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:45:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Similar for myself. I'm riddled with mental issues and it has led to a very unhealthy and self destructive path of substance abuse.

I feel so fragile emotionally because I don't know how to deal with my feelings. Occasionally I just break down and sob like a bitch. (Usually on quite the chemical cocktail)

I have found that while doing this is very painful it is also very cathartic and is usually enough to prevent me from attempting suicide.

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SlytherinSister ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:20:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes. My dad is otherwise a wonderful man, but he didn't believe in depression. Mental issues were "for pussies", "those people should just man up and stop whining" and "you have nothing to be sad about".

It led to me completely hiding my issues and getting into a horrible spiral of despair that nearly ended up with me killing myself because I never got the help I desperately needed. No one takes you seriously at 13, because it's not a "real depression" - you're just a dramatic teenager who's making it up for attention, obviously.

I managed to pull myself through it through sheer force of will, and I have a great life now, but it's scary to think how close I came to giving up. My parents still have no idea to this day.

If you're dealing with depression, please get help, even if it costs you your pride. Depression is not something to be taken lightly and it's a lot easier to deal with it when you have someone helping you share the burden.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:27:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hate that it always seems to be one extreme or the other taught to boys. Yes, you can have your emotions. There is a time/place for them though. For instance, don't bring that to work. People depend on you and if you're a blubbering mess, then others need to pick up your slack.

So... Moderation in all things.... Including emotions.

lostinmeditation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:33:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh man, so much damage here from my parents. Crying? For girls. Actually, pretty much all emotions except anger: for girls. Lots of suppression to unwind.

styckywycket ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:00:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom still believes that I'll get over my depression by getting right with the Lord and working out regularly. She finally stopped verbalizing these "cures" when I said, "But the medication really helps me not think about killing myself all the time." She'll never change her mind, but at least she stops talking to me about it anymore.

tbz709 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:04:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Made me think of this South Patk quote

https://youtu.be/X-7558NYtwY

linwail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:05:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's also important to know that taking medication for mental health issues is not something to be ashamed of. Stay strong friend.

escalat0r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:45:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is still such a prevalent opinion though, it's really sad.

A broken bone is much more harmless than many mental issues and yet people will treat the physical problem different from the mental one.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So right, friend. It sucks when family can't/won't be your support system no matter how hard you try. Luckily counselors and the internet are here for us :P

SadGhoster87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Had autism since I was a child. Stayed mornings with my grandmother before I went to kindergarten because mother walked right away from any daycare that suggested I get tested. She would flat-out deny anything was wrong with me to everyone, including myself. So I grew up in a fog of a young childhood with no medication, no treatment, no nothing, all the kids at school disliked me, and I had no clue what I did wrong.

KitchenSwillForPigs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It took me a long time to understand that anger and jealousy are completely natural feelings. It took me even longer to understand that while I am fully allowed to feel them, they are still my responsibility, and it is up to me to handle them. My father never let himself be angry until one day he would explode. He would break things, make threats, then drink himself into a stupor and go to bed. We wouldn't eat for the rest of the day or until my mom came home on those days. I'm proud to say that I am not like him. I am still figuring it out, but I've learned a lot about handling my emotions while still allowing myself to feel them.

I'm sorry you went through something similar. I hope things are better now.

MemoryLapse ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 08:10:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lol, pussy.

Khab00m ยท -17 points ยท Posted at 06:19:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait, you actually feel emotions? Are you a woman by any chance?

MalyKotka ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:55:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not even remotely funny.. what were you going for with this?

Khab00m ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 07:53:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I think it's hilarious. But what I find more hilarious is your serious reaction to my comment. LOL

MalyKotka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What you originally wrote before edit:

I think it's hilarious LOL.

Nice try though

Khab00m ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:52:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Yeh I had an after thought a few minutes later reading my comments. lel

Nice try at what btw? Do you believe that I think through my comments and edits for some intricate strategic purpose?

sleeptoker ยท 1803 points ยท Posted at 23:34:14 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That my opinions and desires are worthless

jaysaber ยท 775 points ยท Posted at 01:26:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

On the same line as this: Having to learn that you can actually be proud of yourself for something you've done and it doesn't make you big headed/egotistical.

macrouge ยท 251 points ยท Posted at 02:34:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

on the same line as this, little victories are still victories

eadains ยท 273 points ยท Posted at 02:54:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm having to learn this myself. I was the kid in school that was told that I was going to do great things and whatever. It's left me with this major expectation problem. If I'm not doing something grand and important, I feel really worthless. Even pretty significant accomplishments feel like drops in the bucket to me.

ToThyneOwnSelfBeTrue ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 03:48:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was always told I'd never amount to anything. It worked.

TiberiusBronte ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 03:59:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is me too! I went to high school in a smallish town (60k people) and won all the academic awards and scholarships they had to give. Then I went to college and just sort of fizzled. now I have a very nice life, but there's an emptiness relating to that need to be exceptional. Feeling worthless is something I combat often.

ADHDman ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:21:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I made a bucket list that I'm working on right now. Not dying, just shit that needs to get done in my lifetime ya know? I'd recommend learning an instrument, a language, and picking up one of the craftier hobbies like baking. Your tiniest whims can move you down some of the most rewarding paths, it takes time but it's definitely helped me stabilize mentally and emotionally.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:07:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit! I know that feeling. My dad was so adamant about me being a doctor and acted like the world ended when I didn't want to be one. After college I'm just so burnt out on achieving anything but I feel guilty for not trying to go further.

Hahadontbother ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 05:16:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Similar problem. 97th percentile intelligence according to schools standardized tests.

Never learned how to study, was always told that I would change the world because I was so smart.

Got to college. Flunked it if a good college. Got addicted to amphetamines to deal with it. Went to community college. Flunked out again.

Got clean. Worked at Dominos for two years. Finally got a decent job with starting pay of 30k. That's not much, but it's more than I've ever made at any job.

I think I've learned mediocrity is OK. I don't want to change the world. I just want holidays off, paid vacation time, and a job that doesn't call me in the middle of my birthday party to force me to come to work.

fuzzykittenhead ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:34:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck...that what happened to me down to the letter, except instead of amphetamines it was weed. I'm a dominos "delivery expert" trying to undo the shit grades I've been getting in community college. I just want a real job.

Hahadontbother ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 08:27:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Haha, I've never had much problems with weed. Worse case I'd just smoke myself sober. Pretty good at hiding that.

But amphetamines. Ooooh. A few days of those and I'll manage to work myself into amphetamine induced psychosis.

From someone who was in virtually the same boat? Just quit. Smash your pipe, throw away your stash and your papers.

Now look for jobs. Update your resume. Look in odd places. Especially places that always seem to be hiring. Dress up when you drop the resume off. Give them a week. Go see them in person again. Dressed up. Ask if they're hiring and if they've seen your resume.

If you get a callback, be honest. "I'm sorry, I worked the closing shift last night. I've had X hours of sleep right now but I can talk." Two sentences, and you've managed to convert you're a hard worker (night shift) and you are very interested in this job (accepting the call anyways).

Always try to mention that you'll need to give your previous employer two weeks notice. "Ok, the schedule for next week hasn't been made, and our roster is full. So I can schedule weekends until two weeks is up. Weekends are our busiest times and I don't want to leave them hanging.) Dominos will fire you on the spot for a two weeks notice. They don't need to know that.

That's an example. Learn how to do this. Pretty much any situation you can evoke sympathy for yourself. "Why are your college grades so bad?"

"... There was.. a family emergency going on at that time. (True. Addiction is exactly that) I should have kept up with my grades, but they took secondary focus. (True. Drugs took up my focus) I wish I had focused on my grades, but hindsight is 20/20. (True, I regret the things I did.)

The job i just recently got? I only got because of two things; they required a "iq test" which I did extremely well. (It was just pattern recognition) And I made the interviewer have sympathy for me. I made him put himself into my shoes, and he thought he deserved another chance. Here went all the way up the chain of command to get me in even though I didn't meet qualifications.

Because I dressed right, kept following up after every bit of new news in person, and I played my story right.

So go out there, and apply for some management or manager trainee program. You're smart. They will do everything to manipulate you, so you manipulate harder. They will lie, and cheat, and steal. So you respond with truths. Even if they are technically true. Technically is the best kind of true. Because even if they figure out that you were a drug addict you can say "yes, I told you there was an important family crisis at the time. I focused my efforts on recovery rather than college. I've been clean for a year now. It's been long enough that I won't go into remission. I'll submit to weekly tests on my pay if you want. I need a better job, and I'd love to work here."

Tl;dr learn how to manipulate people. Because your job is sure as shit gonna try to manipulate you. So fight fire with fire.

You want a motivating song? Skillet: not gonna die. "When life pushes me I push harder! What doesn't kill me makes me stronger!"

The worst case scenario from an interview is that you are right back where you started. Who fucking cares about the best case? You have nothing to lose!

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:22:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But amphetamines. Ooooh.

followed by wall of text

seems about right

Hahadontbother ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:49 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

True. That's totally something I would write while tweaking.

But I was just drunk and trying to sound coherent. I think I failed. =P I think most of the advice works though.

Meh_McSadsterson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:13:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I LOVE THAT SONG

macrouge ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:40:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i had the opposite reaction, really. i had always had problems with school, but i adapted new concepts quickly. what this ended up meaning was that i was placed in advanced classes with no actual ability to achieve anything.

one year i pass a class i was struggling with at 2 points from failing and when i told my dad, he said that i needed to take it again because i needed to do better.

many such experiences over time are a good portion why i don't want to pursue further education. or really anything difficult.

ProlificChickens ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:41:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yup. I'v graduated college, got a salaried job two months later, and I'm apparently great at it if my boss is to be believed, but none of it seems.... Right? Important? Big? It should be, it is for others, but never for me.

troubleleaving ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:53:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This hits home. I feel your pain man.

SD__ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:05:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

All my school life, reports said "could do better". Damn straight. I could have a huge mortgage and a fancy car, multiple divorces + kids and be a high-flyer.

.

Instead, I made a choice to not have kids and set about finding a woman of my own mind, one that wouldn't "accidentally" forget to take the pill. We've been married for decades. Our house is shit. Our car is shit. We own them outright.

.

"Could do better". Tsk. Be happy.

EnviedRed ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:02:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow. You've made me realize I could be feeling worthless for the same reason. Thanks for that insight. In time, I hope you're able to enjoy the small victories and find happiness for yourself.

ThaddyG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wasn't that kid at all, quite the opposite, but it had the same effect. I don't know how to be proud of anything I've ever done and I don't know why.

Random_Somebody ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:57:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Asian kid here. Hahaha too true.

"You want us to be happy you got straight A's???? Fuck off until you do better than your cousin (or other person) at piano (insert other topic here)"

Edit for clarity

pessimistic_platypus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:16:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can not parse that last sentence.

Random_Somebody ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:19:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ha thanks. I have no idea why my phone decided to autocorrect "better" into "enter"

pessimistic_platypus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ah, it's much better now, thank you.

MrStigglesworth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:18:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think "fuck off until you do better than ____ at ____" as in they want him to beat some other kid at whatever that kid is good at.

ImmortanKenneth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As long as that pride is in the sense of a feeling of fulfilment, as opposed to a development of arrogance. Take pleasure in your achievements, but don't let it turn you into an arsehole.

Xilverbullet000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've always had this problem. I didn't get it from my parents, but I still have troubles with it.

Palindromer101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:25:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One thing I'm sincerely grateful for that my mom did for me was be consistent in telling me she's proud of me. For both big and little things, she always tells me how proud she is of me. It really makes me feel so great and proud of myself as well.

KestrelLowing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:30:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh man. My parents were really bad with this. It was unintentional, I'm pretty sure, but anything I happened to do "better" than my siblings was almost restricted knowledge.

I'm the youngest and did the best in school and did quite well in other activities as well. But if I got a 1 in solo and ensemble when my siblings had gotten a 2 previously, we didn't talk about it. I graduated with a 4.0 in high school, but my siblings didn't, so we didn't talk about it.

But at the same time if I did as well as siblings had, then it was no big deal - why bother thinking about it?

Really screwed up my thoughts on achievement and how good you have to do in order to be proud of yourself.

C0rnmaze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This, 100%

Techtorn211 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:39:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i think that's just reddit.

38B0DE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's a circlejerk for almost all desires and opinions here. Lots of people love reddit for exactly this reason but it also breeds arrogance and hate for outsiders to your specific desires and opinions.

Rambo7112 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:34:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

-"Hey Rambo7112, wanna go to place X with me?" -"No thanks" -"Ok we're going." A little too close to home there bud

sleeptoker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:18:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh yeah, the typical token "I'm gonna ask you what you want but if you give the wrong answer fuck you"

patrick9911 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:17:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm 33 and just now understanding this. My desires and opinions were 99.9% of the time wrong, especially according to my mother. And she's still like this unfortunately. I envy people who have loving parents.

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:04:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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sleeptoker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:14:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Yeah not been given explanations for rules and orders really messes with a kid too. Even asking in the first place was like spitting in their faces for my parents.

Bringing your own sense of identity back to the level you subconsciously see those of others is a really difficult task. At every step it feels wrong.

Edit: idk why this is downvoted https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/thinking-about-kids/201409/authoritative-vs-authoritarian-parenting-style

nytheatreaddict ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:11:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm still pissed I didn't study what I wanted in college because my parents were paying and my mom told me that I had to "major in something that'll make money because your sister is going to be an artist and you'll need to pay for her". ... her now husband is also in animation and makes more than my BF and I combined. And I haven't used my degree.
Still never told them about a couple of electives I took, too. They wouldn't have approved.

spiritbx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:46:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But never forget the other side of the coin, that your opinions aren't always right and that just because you want something doesn't mean anyone owes you anything.

I suggest you aim for the middle.

sleeptoker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:11:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Generally I'd think that's not too much of a problem for me. Vast majority of the time I really don't assert myself when I'm in a better position to judge a situation, so I end up deferring to someone else who's more confident in their opinion but ends up being wrong. Happens a lot. I'd like to think I'm good at judging things objectively.

Kareus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:03:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

my parents didnt teach me that

the world taught me that :(

khthon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:12 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Buddhist?

sleeptoker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:40:36 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

No just very high strung and controlling arseholes. Now that I'm an adult I actually see how immature their mind processing really is. I've never met anyone in my life that complains as much as my mother and father.

ICanNoEnglish ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:54:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why are you cluttering this thread? :P

ledditlememefaceleme ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:18:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yet companies spend billions trying to get the right opinions and desires from us..and to shape them...

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 08:35:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That my opinions and desires are worthless

Except they are. So are mine, and everybody elses for that matter, but they are nonetheless.

PM_ME_THEM_B00BIES ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 08:52:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, they're not any more valuable than anyone else's, and none of our opinions or desires are particularly valuable.

sleeptoker ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:05:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Silly flippant comment. My parents were emotionally abusive if you want it spelt out for you.

PM_ME_THEM_B00BIES ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:55:19 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I do not care.

sleeptoker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:49 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

man you bothered replying two days later just to say that?

PM_ME_THEM_B00BIES ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:24:28 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

People do things besides sit on reddit all day.

_This_Is_Magic_ ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 06:19:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh shut the fuck up.

sleeptoker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:11:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lick my balls

_This_Is_Magic_ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:33:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Did your parents teach you that?

intronink ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 05:14:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you a millionaire or close to it? Otherwise your opinions are ptobably still worthless. Monetizing you opinions is quite difficult. Congrats if your entrepreneurial spirit has payed off big time though.

[deleted] ยท 1336 points ยท Posted at 02:49:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

All the times she'd call me a spoiled bitch when I cried because we were eating ramen every night and I had no clothes to wear to school and problems with my lungs because the shitty house we were in had black mold, but we could somehow magically afford $60-$80 of liquor for her boyfriend every week. That's some shit I am still unlearning. Edit: week not day holy fuck rip Edit 2: Guess I wasn't clear enough. The bit I'm unlearning is that it's okay to voice your unhappiness, you are not spoiled for wanting decent living conditions, it's okay to accept gifts/help from other people, it does not make you a bad person and does not mean you are using them.

Jennrrrs ยท 94 points ยท Posted at 05:02:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sorry. I went through shit like that too.

TheSlytherinPrincess ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 05:32:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's F'd up. How are you now?

[deleted] ยท 143 points ยท Posted at 05:35:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Okay. Better. The lungs are good. I have some difficulties with expressing my needs. Like if a friend pays for my coffee I'll damn near have an anxiety attack over it, thinking shit like "They probably think I'm needy and clingy and using them for money" etc. Luckily I have patient friends.

[deleted] ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 07:05:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How's your relationship with ramen? There are authentic Japanese restaurants that make some really good ramen. Also, appreciate your patient friends. Patience is hard to come by these days and hopefully they use it beyond their dealings with you. It gives interesting/good perspective on the world.

[deleted] ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 07:17:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Since I'm no longer having to eat ramen and other cheap buys like that I like it. Give me a crate of Shrimp flavoured Mr Noodles and I will devour it.

[deleted] ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 07:23:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

crate of Shrimp flavoured Mr Noodles

OMG Ewwwww! I mean something like this! PM me if you're ever in Oregon and I'll take you to you Yuzu or Ramen Ryoma.

[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 07:26:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus that looks heavenly.

[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 07:33:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am sure you can find something like that in your neck of the woods. Good luck!

challenge_king ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:41:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I would love to try real ramen, but where I live is all Zydeco and and racism. I wonder if Texas has any places?

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:05:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Google and/or yelp!

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:28:14 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Houston has amazing Ramen places!

Also don't you dare wish evil upon Cajun food. I'm a Texan moving back from NYC in a couple weeks and I can't wait hah

NeedMoarCoffee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

http://www.japanesecooking101.com/ramen-recipe/

I'm sure there are better recipes, but this is fairly simple.

my_stacking_username ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:33:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Message me if you're ever in Washington state too, I'll take you out for some!

diaperedwoman ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 07:04:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hate selfish parents. So liquor is more important than food in your stomach and clothes and a medical bill, if they were that poor, I am sure they could have gotten you "free" health insurance from the state, and also a proper house that isn't toxic.

[deleted] ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 07:14:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ahaha but don't you know getting any kind of help from The Government is bad and lazy and evil???? (cannot emphasize the /s enough here)

das_hansl ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 11:29:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The system assumes that parents care about their children.

Triarch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:26:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't you know? They're white, not some uppity negroes. They can't get any benefits! If they were black, they'd be getting free money directly from Obama himself!

/s

I'm actually having this debate with my dad currently. We probably qualify for Medicare, but since he thinks we're too white, he won't take time off of work to at least make sure we qualify.

diaperedwoman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why wouldn't white people qualify? Why only black people?

Triarch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's what I'm trying to tell him, but it seems to me he thinks that to apologize to black people for slavery, government agencies will choose every black person over a single white person. I'm starting to think he's a closeted racist, since he regularly uses dog whistle terms when referring to our Latino neighbors (anchor baby, etc.). I think it traces back to when he attempted to apply for benefits roughly around September 2009. Apparently, he went into the benefits office, tried to apply, and was rebuffed.

He said the end of the conversation went like this:

"Do you have any African ancestry?"

"No, I do not."

"Sorry, then, we can't help you."

I think he glossed over the entire conversation, since I know for a fact that race isn't the only factor when applying for benefits (I tried to see if we qualified once, but I didn't have enough information to get any useful results).

stridernfs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What are you referencing? In the US there isn't "free" health insurance from state or any kind of assurance that people can live in homes without mold.

diaperedwoman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is why I had the word in quotes. The money has to come from somewhere and the hospitals and doctors still have to get their money even though the parent wouldn't have to pay for it out of pocket.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:39 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm from Canada so healthcare was free. She just kept putting off taking me to the doctor because she thought I was exaggerating everything and didn't want to put in the hours it would all take.

stridernfs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:34 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck, that's even worse.

[deleted] ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 06:42:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus, I don't even wanna know what it is like living with mold.

[deleted] ยท 147 points ยท Posted at 07:15:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not very fun, guy.

MaximillianKaspar ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 07:55:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Am I the only one who got this joke.

Hard life, but still you have a sense of humour.

Nice.

AweMax ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:27:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Explain pls?

[deleted] ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 08:35:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

[deleted]

nevus_bock ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 08:57:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, I thought it was because the username had "Sarah" in it

RamblyJambly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:04:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As long as it isn't five fun guys because that causes shit to hit every fan in a 10 mile radius

TrollMcAnally ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:44:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

nope, it was subtle, relevant, and well played.

JazzFan419 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:25:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like the whole thing was a setup just so you could use this joke....

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:42:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If I see an opportunity to make a pun I will take it.

Toxicitor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:51:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not your guy, buddy!

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not your buddy, pal!

psinguine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:48 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I also grew up in a house with black mold. My parents still live there and my dad had some terrifying health issues. My mother hand waves away my concerns that it could involve the mold they've been inhaling for over 20 years.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:56:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

TFW when this describes me too. Hang tough!

snail_rapist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:25:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am so sorry. Hope your situation got better eventually.

[deleted] ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 07:29:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Around when I turned 17 it got slightly better in that I just realized I was never going to get help from her anyways so I stopped asking. Ended the fights. Our landlord at the old house died which forced us into moving into a (much cleaner) apartment. Then I moved out, and realized that the real world is actually far less difficult and poverty-stricken than I was led to believe.

oliverbm ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:42:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ramen every night though... Every cloud has a silver lining

Accio_PumpkinJuice ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:06:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can relate. Mom could afford cigarettes and Dr Pepper, but I had to scrape together .60cents to buy a box of mac & cheese for dinner. And how dare I complain that all my clothes stink of smoke.

heronumberwon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:53:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's terrible parenting... Sorry to hear that

Deathranger999 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:12:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You are strong. Keep on keepin' on.

Baking_bees ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:06:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We had black mold too! Inside the wall between my room and the bathroom. Took almost a decade before my parents did anything about it. No one could understand why I was sick ALL THE TIME when I lived there.

CharlieThunderthrust ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:36:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No offense but your mom's a bitch.

AtlanticSeaSalt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:28:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

:( thats crap man..

mepena2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You are in a better place now. Hope you you are having a good Sunday.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:44:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks, you too.

Vandog-Lightswitch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sorry to hear about your horrible mom, but I don't think I understand what she taught you or what you're unlearning. Are you doing that to your children now?

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:23:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm learning that I'm not a spoiled bitch for wanting basic needs.

Vandog-Lightswitch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:28:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh okay, gotcha. I misunderstood that part. Hope everything works out for you.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you, and you as well with whatever you've got going on.

spiritbx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:55:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It could be worst, at least he didn't molest you.

Right?

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:03:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mom is that you

spiritbx ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:11:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'l call the therapist...

Seto_Fucking_Kaiba ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:16:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'll call the therapist

FTFY

Toxicitor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:52:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'll call the therapist

ICanWittleALittle ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:31:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're not "unlearning" anything... just bitching about life.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:41:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Learning that I'm not a spoiled bitch and it's okay to be upset with your living conditions has been a very long and difficult process for me, but tell me more about how much you know about me and my life.

ICanWittleALittle ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:49:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Discomfort, yes. Upset? Useless emotion. Self pity gets you nowhere. Discomfort should motivate you to do better.

Your rant was just that, a rant. Nothing can be taken away other than complaints about childhood.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:19:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you really believe that I'm "complaining" then I'm happy for you for getting to live such a sheltered life. Or I'm sad for you for having never learned that it's okay to be unhappy and tell someone about it. Whichever your case is. To this day I have issues accepting any kind of help from anyone because I was taught that voicing your wants and needs was one of the worst things you can do, and made you a spoiled little brat, no matter how shitty someone was treating you. I am having to now learn that it's ok to stick up for yourself, it doesn't make you a bad person.

ICanWittleALittle ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'd rather not turn this into a pissing contest, but I'd take your entire shitwrapped sandwich if you'd take the experience from one day of mine.

I have been broken more than most I've ever met, but it shouldn't make you a complainer. It should make you strong, and not seek validation by crying about the bad things.

That trait is just as appealing as the way you feel reading this.

By the way; unlearning something would apply to most of the stories in this thread except yours.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:37:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I have explained to you multiple times now in different wording what I had to "unlearn", yet you still aren't getting it and are being unnecessarily hostile so I'm honestly giving up on you at this point. You are the one coming here and trying to belittle my experience and call me wrong. There was a lot more going on than what I've talked about, I only gave a few examples to give people a general idea of what the situation was. I did not want to write an essay because listing all the shit that was wrong with my childhood would take away from my point too much. It is not a contest of "who had it worse", I'm sorry you think that it is.

PutItUpYourSpigot ยท 135 points ยท Posted at 02:26:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not accepting that my daughter is truly sorry for what's she's done, until she cries..

When we were kids, if my sis or I broke the rules we would get the wrath of dad come down on us-anything besides ending up crying was disrespect or not taking the telling off 'seriously'.. My dad is from the pacific islands-not that this in anyway excuses him, but it's what he was taught. Children are disrespectful, parents are there to put a stop to it. I've caught myself early on and am learning to turn myself around-anger management, parenting courses. But I can hear my dad coming through sometimes and it frightens me. I'm trying to stop the cycle. I can feel the irrational anger starting to come out if I'm telling our girl off and she just dismisses me. But I make it a point to be the adult in the situation and remember that it's her age and that she's learning. Sidenote-he's since changed a LOT and is a fantastic and doting grandfather. I just don't want to carry on traits that I grew up with from his earlier years.

Storm137 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:21:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

By getting help your already starting. Just remember your daughter is a person with feelings too... And it's not wrong to excuse yourself for a few minutes to cool down before going back to talking to your kid.

SplitArrow ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:41:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It is perfectly fine to be angry. That is a primal emotion but by same token don't take your anger out on your kids. The best way to deal with a problem is explanation and then correction. It is perfectly fine to let your kids know you are displeased and then explain why and then the proper thing to do. If it becomes a reoccurring thing you can then offer disciplinary action by taking away something, or time out.

For small kids patience and reward will help you more than discipline. By rewarding good behavior and explaining bad behavior you will get much better results. If my daughter continues to do something though she gets till the count of five to stop or she has to choose three toys she loves and I will take one. If it continues I will do time out and lose special treats for the whole day.

Getting angry and sharp with kids more often than not will cause defiance and just make matters worse.

For older kids taking away privileges and grounding works well corrective action. The key is to allow them to be free, but offer guidance. Let them make mistakes don't let little things get to you. They aren't perfect and neither are you. You have to let the little stuff slide but make sure they know that getting trouble will not stand. You are the biggest role model in their life make sure it positive. Lead by example.

Reward your kids for doing a good job and always give more praise than correction. More often than not bad kids are bad because they lack support.

fakepicasso ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:41:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God damn, this happens to me a lot. I truly am sorry, but it's like as if they're waiting for some miracle to happen to confirm it. Worst part is that they want it right on the moment, so what's a frustrated and apologetic kid to do? Cry.

What the major bummer of this cycle is that crying doesn't show it either. Crying is insincere. So what the fuck.

PizzaRollsAndWeed ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:59:36 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Im actually very scared for my future. I know we want kids. But we both were treated a little harsh growing up, physically and emotionally. I don't wanna ever have my kid know what being told they're a regret feels like. Or being slammed against a wall by their throat when they're 7. I fear I will be just like my parents and lose my temper.

bigalsplaypen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:41:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The cycle breaker is a hard load to carry but it's worth it. The fact that you're acknowledging it is huge.

unseen-streams ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:57:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is messed up.

stickittothemanuel ยท 1094 points ยท Posted at 00:02:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When someone annoys you, cut them out of your life. Permanently.

junica ยท 1535 points ยท Posted at 02:28:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

are your parents r/relationships?

BackstrokeBitch ยท 181 points ยท Posted at 03:22:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

this is so true and nobody realizes it and it makes me laugh so hard every time the OP gets downvoted to hell because they want to fix their life, not cut everyone off.

Xalteox ยท 175 points ยท Posted at 04:33:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Husband put the fork in the spoon tray.

Time to divorce.

[deleted] ยท 79 points ยท Posted at 05:08:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lawyer. Gym. Facebook.

Natanael_L ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:32:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hit. Delete. Up.

Colored_Infinity ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:30:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, so you hit the lawyer, delete the gym and up the Facebook. I've been doing it wrong.

EmmaBourbon ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 04:53:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wife puts the roll of toilet paper facing over instead of under, time for a divorce.

ThanatosSkepsi ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 05:01:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Indeed, free her of the suffering of living on a household that puts it under.

audi4444player ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 06:05:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

honestly I don't know why this is such a common argument, there are lots of benefits to over (looks nice, away from wall, easier to grab) but I can't think of any for under, I'm sure it's just the people who don't care rebelling against those that do.

ThatGodCat ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 06:34:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think the one I've heard is its harder for pets or kids to fuck around with and pull a whole shitload off easily? But yeah over or nothing jesus

lesbefriendly ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:07:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're all wrong.

It goes under the dress of a potty princess.

Cobbleking32486 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:55:25 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Um, it obviously goes vertically.

Kendo16 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well that'd clear my colon...

Huggabutt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:31 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

if you have a cat and it's under it won't spill onto the floor when they bat it.

BrutalWarPig ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:13:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents just leave it off. It drives me freaking crazy

EmmaBourbon ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:15:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lazy bastards!

BrutalWarPig ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:17:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not even that. If I put it on they'll grab a new one or take it off. I find it gross and unsanitary.

Froakiebloke ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 06:09:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Says he doesn't remember? Gaslighting!

bobbygoshdontchaknow ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:27:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

obviously the husband is a manipulative, abusive asshole who only cares about himself. He was putting the fork in the wrong tray because he knew it would bother his wife. he doesn't want her to have equal access to proper silverware

StrangeConcept3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:52:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My cutlery draw is just undivided chaos.

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I luff chikkens

GhostBond ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 05:34:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

/r/relationships went through some sort of massive change a few months ago that cleaned things up - well a lot better than before.

But the last time I looked before that, a woman was pregnant and her husband had done everything to take care of her, and was planning on driving her to the hospital etc, but didn't want to be in the delivery room when the delivery happened (claiming he was made naseous by blood but it seemed like he handled blood fine in other situations).

The most sympathetic responses in the comments section (with many comments deleted) was that he was an asshole, then there were the comments saying she should divorce him and leave him, with a few saying they though she should kill him.

Yeah "some" of the posts are like you said, but others...

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I luff chikkens

GhostBond ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:41:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I suspect they changed forum mods and/or instituted new rules for posting. I'm not saying it's great now, but it's a noteable improvement on the shit-show it was before.

I really don't think the kind of people making those comments would be toned down by social shaming though lol.

OneHonestQuestion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:03:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's hard to moderate that stuff. I think the best you could do is to institute a "No low-effort post" rule. Else, you run the risk of not allowing for divorce/separation as legitimate advice.

BackstrokeBitch ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:33:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But then there's the kid who had protected sex with his girlfriend and someone told him he's an idiot, she can get pregnant if you use a condom even if it doesn't break, and made fun of him for four comments :(

MacadamNumber ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:51:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ikr ? r/relationships is pure cancer, I once posted there and never again. Also people judge you and criticize you instead of solving your problem.

HS_Did_Nothing_Wrong ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:20:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cut the lawyer get off the gym and go to facebook

Rabidwalnut ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 03:33:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Just read through controversial. That was WAY too entertaining.

Edit: too, not to

part_time_nerd ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 04:17:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You used 'to' instead of 'too'. It's time for us to get a divorce.

Rabidwalnut ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:46:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have no clue why I did that. I swear, it was a mistake, I'll never do it again!

BrutalWarPig ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:13:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Too late she is with Jenny now.

flyingcircusdog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:13:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well the neighbors just suggested we paint our living room light beige instead of dark, time to put up the privacy fence.

KitchenSwillForPigs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:27:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're joking, but this is so real. I got kind of addicted to r/relationships for a while. While I have learned some tools for communication and standing up for myself, right after I stopped, I had to remember that cutting people out isn't always the answer. It also made me kind of paranoid that I was missing clear signs of abuse in my relationships. I know how easily that can happen, but some people on r/relationships were in some serious denial. I started to over think a lot of things. Bad news bears, Bilbo Baggins.

olbleedyeyes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Their lawyer bills must be ridiculously high.

fortunatedad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This deserves gold. ๐Ÿ™‚

elusive_change ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:12:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you type it with a leading slash it'll link automatically /r/relationships

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Sirspen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm convinced most commenters over there have never been in a relationship and as a result of jealousy take satisfaction in seeing relationships end.

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_The_Real_Guy_ ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:14:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But what if my family annoys me? I have a sister that is the worst kind of person, and one day she threatened to hit me when I told her to calm down. After that I've full on disowned her and really wish I could do it to the rest of my family since I don't talk to them and have nothing in common with them.

IdenticalThings ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:57:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sorry holmes. Time and space can help reshape this, but sticking around and trying to tolerate each other isn't ideal.

queenofthenerds ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:56:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's tough to keep family at a distance due to society's norms, but once you learn that you are not alone, it gets easier. You can live far away, or close, and not call and not visit. People really don't talk much about cutting ties with family in every day life, but it happens.

Amberleaf29 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:44:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Me either!! I had friends like that growing up, though - I'd be frozen out if I did something that annoyed them, then have to grovel and apologize to get back into their good graces. I was a bit of a social outcast, so was grateful just to get any attention. Thankfully, now I've learned my lesson. I actually associate with decent people now.

Demmitri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:29:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It would surprise you how many people think exactly like that. I was thought like that by my father and I'm already changing it day by day.

teh_tg ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 02:02:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why not? I mean if the annoying is persistent.

There are literally billions of other people to spend your time with, and you only have so much time.

abhikavi ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 03:01:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family does this all the time, and it was one of the reasons I chose to elope. I'm sorry, but it's not actually feasible to have three separate reception halls because Grandma won't be in the same room with Uncle Steve who isn't speaking to cousin Betty who can't stand Grandma. And most of my family has a chart like this of who they are and aren't speaking to. It's a logistical nightmare.

It's ridiculous. One of the not-speaking scenarios is over a family bible that my gran was sure my uncle burned. He had not burned it (or claimed that he burned it or in any way harmed it, I have no idea where this idea came from). She has it now. She's still not speaking to him.

NivlacSupreme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

if work out how to pull it off for fun (I worked out the stat line for death company terminators for fun) and then elope anyway

OddOliphaunt ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:30:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I feel this way, but some people take it way too far. Some of my family annoys me, and I may not go out of my way to have a lot of contact with the sisters who annoy me, but I'm not going NC for annoyances that don't affect me.

But I do tend to find reasons not to allow people to get close to me. I have a lot more hard and fast reasons we can't be friends than most people I know of. Really it all boils down to the fact that most people can't see their own flaws. I want friends who are introspective and willing to improve themselves personally. Most people aren't interested in that. They want friends who will tell them it's okay to think what they're thinking and good to be the way they are.

OneGoodRib ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:52:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well yeah, if they consistently annoy you to the point you can't stand it. But it's stupid to cut everyone out of your life just because of some stupid little annoyance. Like, sure, cut someone out of your life because they're constantly talking about something you disagree with and they just never let it go even though you both know you disagree and they're just really high and might about it. But don't cut someone out of your life just because they annoy you by saluting every time anyone says a phrase containing the words "major" or "general", or because they put the toilet paper on the roll the wrong way.

Cut toxic people out of your life, but don't cut everyone out for minor annoyances.

Zeus-Is-A-Prick ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:41:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There are billions of people on earth yes, but only about a dozen of them actually give a shit about me. My friends can be annoying, but I'm not going to cut them out of life because there is so much more to them than "being annoying".

lucy_inthessky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:23:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why completely cut someone out if you are friends, especially if you don't make your feelings known? I mean, people aren't mind readers, if they're doing something that annoys you, the mature thing to do is talk to them about it. Only childish/immature people cut others out of their lives without first talking to the other party first.

teh_tg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:32:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"If the annoying is persistent" is key here, and of course I make my feelings known. What made you think otherwise?

lucy_inthessky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:48:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was answering your question, "why not". I didn't say that you didn't make your feelings known, just that cutting someone out just because of an annoyance without first trying to fix the problem is very childish behavior.

teh_tg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:52:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Definitely!

Miguelinileugim ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 04:19:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait, this could be good advice if we're talking about toxic people, but for slightly annoying people this is overkill.

ibopm ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 09:33:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Perhaps it's based on the assumption that most people are over-tolerant with toxic people, often simply dismissing the issue as "not that bad".

theandromedan ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:04:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What if you annoy yourself?

Protikon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:42:00 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Then you visit /r/me_irl and /r/2meirl4meirl

1V0R ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:29:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, to a point. I think if someone is just an obnoxious asswipe and goes out of their way to make your life miserable you probably should cut them out of your life.

test_tickles ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:45:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Works for me.

Zack1018 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:33:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are your parents redditors?

idiotdroid ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 03:25:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Hey reddit, my wife of 800 years has recently started to get annoyed with me for playing league of legends 16 hours a day and said that I should do something more productive, what should I do?"

Reddit: "If your wife cant handle the fact that you love to play league of legends for 16 hours straight and spend no time with her, then you should probably get divorced because she is cheating on you. Don't be a pussy and just end the relationship now."

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volatile_chemicals ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:54:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Facebook up, hit the lawyer, delete the gym.

MiddleAgedNarcSurv ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:20:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here. There was no sense that you could love someone and not agree with everything they did. This resulted in not growing up with aunts, uncles, cousins, etc. Fortunately I'm building those relationships now many years later.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:18:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom did versions of that with stores that didn't cave to her demands, but she never kept it up for more than a couple years. Thankfully I thought she was ridiculous instead of following her example.

blazingbuns ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Most of the women in my family has the same mentality. It's so annoying. What's up with all these bitches ignoring each other like they're in the fucking library?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:32:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This.

My dad has a long history of cutting people out (including me, once or twice). I now realize I've done this with so many people, and it's very hard to change that behavior. If I don't want to talk to them, I don't want to. I want that to change.

spiritbx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:51:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Have you tried deleting the gym and hitting your lawyer?

SD__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:06:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This could be true, if you live in Lincolnshire.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:07:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Damn... are your parents in politics by chance?

Demmitri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:43:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I still haven't unlearn it. Where to begin?

lucy_inthessky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:22:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know someone like this. This person has no friends from any place he/she has lived, no friends from the hometown, doesn't even talk to his/her family. I've seen this person do this to several people when we lived in the same location.

Always beware of people who have no lasting friendships.

iFreilicht ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:24:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or disagrees with you in general. My girlfriends dad has not even looked at her the last three years because of a misunderstanding. Her mom only calls her from her mobile phone when he's not around. It's cruel.

Manburpigx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:00:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

At the same time. When it gets beyond annoying and crosses over to disrespect, it's perfectly fine to cut people out.

I'm not saying I burn bridges at the drop of a hat. But last month I had to sever ties with a "friend" because no matter how many chances I gave him, he continued to disrespect me, my home, my mother, and my in-laws. And this is after I allowed him and a friend I'd never met to stay in my house for a month while I drove them around because they didn't own a car. Kicker is I liked his friend way more. He was respectful and nice. Even being rough around the edges.

This other guy thinks his upbringing is an excuse for him to be a vile human being and it isn't.

Here are some examples of things he did in the month that he stayed with me.

  • went to a bar with me, asked the server what her cup size was (after I begged him not to)

-got butthurt when I told him no one thinks that's funny and men don't act like that

-made a mess and never cleaned a single thing in an entire month (his friend did though and he cooked!)

-started killing birds on my property (after I told him he could not)

-after I asked him to respect my mother for the day she was going to come out to visit, he tried to tell her the story of when he sexually harassed that server, stating "because it's funny". Proceeds to get all butthurt again because I told him again "it's not funny. No one here thinks its funny but you."

-said inappropriate things and cursed around my 11 year old niece.

-told stories of his sexual exploits, in disgusting detail, to my father in law. Just to clarify. This guy is 36 and thinks that having sex with some ugly, fat, white trash married woman that he met on some app makes him cool to the rest of us. No one cares who you fuck, Dan. Keep it to yourself.

And here's the coup de gras. After swearing up and down to me that he wouldn't try to fuck our friends because and I quote him verbatim "that's what a shitty friend does" he hooks up with my SOs friend the first night she's there. That's not really what upset me. What upset me was that he had put on deadpool (again after I said no multiple times) for my 11 year old niece. And then proceeded to hook up with daisy while MY MOTHERFUCKING NIECE IS STILL ON THE COUCH NEXT TO THEM.

My niece thought they were having sex. I was livid. I told Dan I was done with him and never wanted to see him again. I was sick of trying to be a mother to a 36 year old man. (I'm in my mid 20s)

In summation. Sometimes you should cut people out of your life. If I could've done it earlier I would've.

Also. Fuck you Dan.

KeelOfTheBrokenSkull ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:08:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is your father named Henry?

GlassesAreCoolNow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:59:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Seriously! I lost touch with most of my family because of my mom acting like this! I ended up cutting her out of my life for my own sanity. Yay families!

imminent_riot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Did you also get the "If your friends ask you for anything they are users and only want to hang out with you so they can use you and they'll leave you all alone if you don't want to do them favors"

atglobe ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:51:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My cousin does this, it's ridiculous.

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ddutton9512 ยท 455 points ยท Posted at 04:23:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same problem, grew up being constantly told how smart I was (during the 90's with all the self esteem bullshit). After college I started working and realized that nah, I'm pretty average and even if I were super smart no one would care. People care about your results, not your potential.

JMC792 ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 05:32:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy crap that last line. Have my upvote

[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 07:24:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not entirely bullshit. What I mean is, people often work to live up to expectations of themselves. E.g. if I pick out a kid in a classroom and call him/her the class clown, single him/her out even one time for it, he/she will soon become content in the role.

For your parents to call you smart could have helped you in your childhood immensely, in ways that probably are not measurable - not necessarily grades, but for example learning with an open mind and using critical thinking in your daily life.

Take the flip-side: a child who's continuously told he/she is not intelligent, either dull or simply average. They may be unable to develop trust in their own mind.

I suppose the greatest combination is the message: "You're smart. That doesn't mean you don't have to work hard," but that sounds like an oxymoron when your life revolves around school, and having a quick mind can often make "work" in elementary school seem so trivial, that you're not working "hard."

TheApexRedditor ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:07:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm the flip-side. I decided early on in a fit of anger "If I fail when I put in maximum effort, and people come to the conclusion I'm not putting in any, why put in effort at all?". At 20 and in university, I now know that I'm dyslexic and compared to all the privately educated kids I now find myself around, I'm really not that stupid. But still I struggle with self belief and anxiety.

rhaizee ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 07:44:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've been reading how we shouldn't tell our children how smart and quick they learned something. But rather tell them how proud you were of all their hard work and it must have taken them lots of practicing. It's a good strong mindset to instill.

DodgyBollocks ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 10:30:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm struggling through this now. I was always told I was bright and smart, which was true, but I was also incredibly lazy because most stuff just came easy to me. I really wish I had instead been praised for hard work and developed a good work ethic instead because I don't have English essays to ace but I need get this boring tedious stuff done and I have zero drive and willpower to do it. No one told me life is mostly boring, tedious unenjoyable shit.

MAK911 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:02:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Could someone please turn that last line into a picture so I can make it my desktop wallpaper, tack it to my walls, and paint my room with that image? This hit very close to home.

TwistedReaper00 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 08:08:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's pretty shitty, then again i made it at four in the morning

http://imgur.com/a/IzpGb

Joe503 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:03:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My favorite song lyrics are these by Pennywise, which are embroidered on the inside of toiletry bag (which I see daily):

"Point to your promise you can use it for a crutch, stand by while all your dreams get trampled in the dust"

Bearnadette ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:43:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It should be one of those clever Demotivators.

hellschatt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:12:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The last line really depends on where you apply to work.

Dunyvaig ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:54:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

After college I started working and realized

This could be you just naturally spending time in a social and work circle with your level of "smarts".

Lord_of_the_Dance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:53:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I too was a gifted child, I did advanced classes and all that, stopped when I got to middle school

TheAE86ofMtAkina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That last line. Dang.

goose_9 ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 03:13:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

On the flip side, that I'm not as dumb as they think I am. Struggled with math throughout school, Mom was thoroughly ashamed of me and compared me to other "dumb" students despite my excelling in other topics. That shit will fuck your self-esteem and grades forever. Currently applying to PhD programs for neuroscience, so that feels pretty good.

Brayneeah ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:57:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's great to hear :)
I hope your application is successful.

Alpgh367 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:03:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good luck!

DannyMThompson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:44:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It sounds like she was pushing you and it appears to have worked.

the_right_bullets ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:53:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Reminds me of this Salvador Dali quote: "Intelligence without ambition is a bird without wings"

Saxyphone ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:39:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can feel this one. Growing up school was always a lot easier for me than it was for my brother, and while my parents had good intentions, telling a kid, "don't brag about how easy school is, you're just a lot smarter than the other kids" is a great way to give a kid a superiority complex.

MyIQis76 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:27:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents keep comparing me to other family members. Like for example, my cousin. My mom told me he got some academic award signed by Obama or some shit. She asked why can't I be like him. Pissed me off when she compared a genius to a kid (me) that never had anything higher than a C in any classes since 1st grade.

caesar15 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:59:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How did you overcome it?

Nueraman1997 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:29:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Self motivation is some of the hardest shit to learn.

PM_ME_YO_COOKIES ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:56:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Right there with you......

myMILisacrapburger ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:14:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fiance has this problemm- he accelerated through school, graduated at 14, but dropped out of college twice and sat at home doing nothing for many years. Took a long time before he realized that just being smart wasn't going to pay the bills.

mr_lemonpie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:33:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I may be missing something here but are you saying your parents taught you you aren't as smart as you think you are and you had to unlearn that?

Cus you should relearn that, it's kinda a good thing to know that you don't know much/strive to learn more etc.

El_Dudereno ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:38:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not OP - but I think he/she was saying that telling a kid they're intelligent can lead to the child thinking they don't have to work at stuff.

HeyShayThatRhymes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:00:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's a hard one to unlearn. I mean, it's just so much work....

TheApexRedditor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:38:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm curious, have you managed to learn the whole "work ethic" and "motivation" thing? How?

horyo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:21:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And as a corollary to this, my parents had to teach me that a high IQ is valuable, but not in the absence of experience and context.

superpotato20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:52:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Damn this hits too close to home.

bobabeep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:09:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I grew up thinking I was hot shit. Turns out I'm average, and all the others were just morons and hard work actually maters.

Plaguesage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:42:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Tears swell in my eyes. Yet the world has failed to kill us for one more day! We soldier on

Fluffboyjr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There are a lot of things my mother would tell me about myself, like i'm smart and that I'm a good singer, without telling me why or how I can express these things to my best potential. It took me years to realise I wasn't as good a singer as I thought I was, plus nobody really commented on my singing preferring to be polite about it. Recording my voice helped me open it up and learn a few different things to help before I sang, preparation stuff like yawning. Still haven't figured out the smart thing yet though I'm getting the hint that it equates to hard work and determination to some extent.

oliverbm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:39:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Damn. So true. Brains are cheap. Being smart does not mean you will be successful.

zeropi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:56:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also, that just because you have a high iq as a kid, doesn't mean you will have it as an adult

Scherzkeks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:27:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I felt the same way you did. Had gifted classes through high school, but I always felt normal. However, I now find myself frequently disappointed by choices people make--decisions that could turn out so much better if they just think things through. Maybe that's all that's meant by having a high IQ? :/

[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 04:23:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Having a "decently high IQ" doesn't mean shit period. Lol.

kangareagle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:45:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not sure what you mean, but IQ is correlated with some good stuff.

awkwardlylurkingdude ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:34:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah but when the IQ test that says 99.8th percentile was done when you weren't even in kindergarten I question the legitimacy somewhat... (this was the basis of my mother's claims about my genius all my life)

nytheatreaddict ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:34:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here! Well, I think it was 99 for me. She'd tell my little sister that my dad and I were in the top 1%, and they (sister and mom) were in the top 3%. Soooo basically she let my sister know from a young age that she was the "dumb" one. Surprise! My sister graduated college with nearly straight As. I barely graduated.

asianmags ยท 2645 points ยท Posted at 23:03:34 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When an ice cream van goes past with the music on, that means he has ran out of ice cream

blackesthearted ยท 574 points ยท Posted at 01:45:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My Aunt used to tell the kid she babysat for (whose parents forbade ice cream because it'd make the girl "fat and unhappy") that it was the "music truck," which came along to play music for the neighborhood.

ButtmanNaNaNaButtman ยท 767 points ยท Posted at 03:11:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's crappy that she couldn't have ice cream, but there's something magical about the idea that someone goes around the neighborhood in a music truck to cheer people up.

[deleted] ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 05:24:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

but there's something magical about the idea that someone goes around the neighborhood in a music truck to cheer people up

Does it count when the high school kids drive their trucks through town at 2AM with the radio full blast?

Nambot ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 06:03:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Only if the only thing you can hear is low thudding bass.

kevronwithTechron ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:42:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or unemployed adults at any hour between noon and about 4 am.

ObjectiveAnalysis ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 11:55:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Years do not make on an adult.

dryingsocks ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:57:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I always hated it when someone had their music on too loud, but once in a while there's someone with good actual music playing and that's always kind of awesome

also helps when it's not two am though

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:23:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't worry, when I blare my music at 2am I ALWAYS make sure it's good music!

/s

thelittlepakeha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:35:07 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Labourers working on houses during the day with music playing always seems really cheerful to me for some reason.

blackesthearted ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 05:07:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's what I thought when I first heard about it -- although if my neighborhood had a music truck I'd prefer it not play the horrible song with random "Hello?!"s thrown in that our ice cream truck uses.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:27:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh god, in my town we had an old grey ice cream truck that used that inbetween loops of a very short song. I'm imagining it's the same female voiced "hello", too.

I don't know if that truck is still around now, but it was driving around town for what must have been easily a decade or more. The song and voice loop never changed.

wd3war ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:28:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That lady scared the shit out of me about a year ago. My (now ex) girlfriend had gone to spend the weekend at the beach with her folks so I was at home alone. I had a day off so the night before I went and got nice and drunk. Behind our apartment was a street leading into a decent neighborhood with lots of working class families who had lots of kids. Anyhow, there I was, just waking up and feeling like death warmed over from the bender I went on the night before, and the moment I sat on the toilet for my post drinking morning constitution, this woman yelled "HELLO" into my second floor bathroom window before blasting some jingly version of Pop Goes The Weasel or whatever (I just remember car horns and clapping sounds and then the lady yelled "HELLO" again).

zaerosz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:13:17 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, at least you didn't have to spend long on the toilet.

prrg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:25:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

HELLO

Stealthman13 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:02:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lucio?

Lordhuckington ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:53:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can't stop won't stop!

ER_nesto ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:21:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In Kampala (Uganda), there are guys in pickup trucks with PA systems and a DJ in the back, they drive around playing music, all day, every day

VideoGameCoach ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:25:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hang out in the ghetto. Dudes cruisin the streets blasting hip-hop and R&B all day.

popertop ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:53:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There is actually a Japanese jazz fusion band that toured around the city in a bus playing their sets.

chokingonlego ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:18:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I guess you could say it's a bandwagon. I want to join and play music for the delightment of children.

TooManyMeds ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:31:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, the other night I was at a Pokemon go hotspot and this guy with an ash ketchum hat drove up and down the street blasting the Pokemon theme song...

At least until the police that were helping with the huge pedestrian traffic told him to move on.

Zardif ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:24:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haven't you heard the guys with 3000w subs and stereos? They just want to make your life better by shaking your windows at 3am.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:35:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like the kind of thing they try in North Korea to "elevate the patriotic spirit of the workers", except they'd also play speeches by the great leader rather than just music.

If you've ever watched Nork TV (they used to stream it online for free, maybe they still do) it's a lot like that. Instead of commercials every 20 minutes they play short patriotic propaganda musicals.

justaguy394 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:04:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's people who do this in Israel... Their truck blasts music and they get out and dance at red lights to make the world happier. Saw it on "an idiot abroad", not sure how common it is though...

wrincewind ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:53:13 on October 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's a guy that does this in my part of the city. It's not a truck, though, it's a bicycle with a huge set of speakers in a wagon towed behind it, and loads of christmas lights. It's weird, but awesome. He pedals real slow and blasts reggae.

juel1979 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:14:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We have a local fleet of mismatched vans that go around selling dollar ice cream. They play the worst music (Christmas music tends to be a staple). I remember being in my basement one night and hearing it through my sliding door. I swore I was going to be murdered.

I wish they'd match the vans at least. Would seem so much less creepy to buy from. Probably double their customer base.

Escape92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:17:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I lived in southern Israel for a year, and my favourite experience was that every Friday afternoon a van drove around the city playing the same song over and over again, but it's the song that welcomes in the weekend.

I lived in an area where I could see and hear stuff about 10 streets away (we were high up) so I used to listen to the van and the beach zumba class battle it out at 4pm week. Those were nice times.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:05:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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specter539 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I do this is my car but non of my neighbors appreciate my loud rap music.

JizzBeef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:23 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In Jamaica they have Rumba boxes, basically just music trucks.

IWantALargeFarva ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:02:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's what we told our kids too. The speed limit on our street was too high so the truck wasn't allowed to stop in front of our house, so they never really got a good look at it.

Sent the oldest to preschool. I picked her up one day and she was screaming, "you know that music truck? Did you know that they have ice cream????" Our lie was up.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:23:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If I had only had ice cream when there was a truck I would have grown up much LESS fat.

DirkRight ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:00:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ice cream can make you fat, but ice cream can never make you unhappy.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When the icecream is finished, that could make you unhappy.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:11:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

who bans ice cream? It's practically a food group!

edit: it's a joke, people. I'm not an idiot.

blackesthearted ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:06:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Horrible people, that's who. They were awful in general (CPS eventually took the kid away for non-ice-cream related reasons, but thankfully the girl's a happy ice-cream-eating teenager now) but the ice cream thing for some reason always sticks out in my mind whenever they come up in conversation.

rabbit395 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 05:38:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly, I will probably not let my kids have any food like that. I am fat myself and I will not let my kids be fat too. If they don't taste it in the first place, they won't crave it.

stagier_malingering ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:55:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They will, instead, see their friends having it and get hurt or angry or annoyed that they cannot and will want to try it for the forbidden fruit aspect. Then they will try to sneak it in order to rebel or feel like they are in control and will gorge on it the first available opportunity they have. Happens all the time with alcohol. I had it happen to me with soda. I had friends of mine who had it with chocolate and Halloween candies.

Moderation is a better bet overall. I can sate my cravings for soda without gorging on it now that I'm older, but I definitely had several up and down periods.

Minelayer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My folks pulled this and I had the same issue with food in general and annoyingly, television watching.

NZ_NZ ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 13:21:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

don't know why he got downvoted. his genetical make up gave him a solid reason.

what's wrong with you lot? he did the right thing IMO. I love ice cream, since I'm not obese.

Thin-White-Duke ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:26:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Moderation is a good skill to teach. Your kids will, eventually, have ice cream some time. Better teach them proper portioning, lest they discover treats and pig out.

himit ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:04:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's a good theory, but it really doesn't work in practice.

I had two step-cousins who were banned from junk food. Mum was a big health freak so everything in the house was organic etc.

I remember we picked them up from a birthday party and the mum was actually crying. Apparently there'd been a spread of sausage rolls, cakes, sweets etc. And then games and dancing led by a dj...But her kids refused to leave the table, where they were shovelling everything they could get into their mouths. For the whole time.

You're better off not making food a reward and not limiting 'treats' but making sure healthy options are tasty and available all the time. Teaching junk food as 'sometimes' food is a good way that kids understand.

NivlacSupreme ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:54:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

well maybe your a horrible person.

TheCoyoteBlack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:31:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom did that to me!

FPSGamer48 ยท 1274 points ยท Posted at 00:54:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's just smart parenting.

canuckpuckbeaut ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 04:39:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not even mad, that's amazing!

mac_got_fat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:26:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents used to call them the 'bedtime bells' and that when they were played, it was bedtime for all the kids

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:48:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So kids would have bedtime at like 2pm?

mac_got_fat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Na, they used to come round about 6 on school nights

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:34:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

6 still seems like an early bedtime

challenge_king ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:46:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sitting here laughing my ass off because the ice cream truck would turn off the music when it stopped, and the music would resume as he pulled away in my neighborhood. This explains all the disappointed faces I saw when the music came back on!

timultuoustimes ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:26:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No it's not. The only thing that teaches is that your parents are lying assholes. I would rather be taught that treats are an occasional thing, and that you don't need ice cream everyday. Parents need to just learn to tell their kids no, and not lie and manipulate to get them to stop asking things.

Zathoichi ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:40:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's like the kid who didn't like fish who once caught one himself. He agreed that ofc he had to eat his own fish. Amazing how many years that fish lasted.

[deleted] ยท 208 points ยท Posted at 23:09:41 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What diabolical cunning. May you never more be without Astropops. :-)

Michaelscot8 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:12:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shit, I'm gonna go get me an astropop. But when the ice cream truck came round, cookie ice cream sandwiches where my shit.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:28:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hahaha, enjoy! :-)

Michaelscot8 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:38:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck it, I just had another.

Michaelscot8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:33:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I did, it was 6 hours ago and I did...

SD__ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:21:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nope. Send your kid out with a feather. Tell them when challenged to question the ice-cream vendor's pecuniary values. "My father says this chicken feather is worth more than your entire van".

Marysthrow ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 01:12:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Told my son that... we gave in when he was 7-8 and now he knows that we were just messing with him.

bountifulknitter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My daughter came up with that one on her own, she ran with it for about 2 years. Then my MIL went and fucked it up...

MakingItWorthit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He's sharp.

BlueWater321 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:12:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Found Raymond.

DameNisplay ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:30:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know how you feel. I was taught that vending machines were just ads.

press_send_bailiff ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:14:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents told my brother it was the dog catcher and to get the dog inside.

zuuzuu ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:43:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was growing up, I don't ever remember an ice cream truck on my street. In my house, I always hear the ice cream truck coming before my son does, so I holler for him to run outside and stop it while I get my wallet.

You're never too old to have a happy childhood.

Jennrrrs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:49:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I told my kid that it's a music truck. It just drives around playing music for the apartment complex. Lol.

Now that we live in an area where the ice cream guy is not a crackhead, he knows the truth. It was a fun lie for a while tho.

Poppin__Fresh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:35:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Isn't this a joke from Everybody Loves Raymond?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:46:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It is a joke from Raymond.

GavinZac ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:23:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's also a joke from this weekly thread.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:36:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

My grandmother actually banned the Good Humor truck from coming to her neighborhood since she found it "annoying" that her kids would ask for a few dimes. 30 years later my Aunt runs in to an old neighborhood boy at a bar, and he says "Wasn't your mom the one who banished the ice cream truck?!"

jencongreen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:48:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Parenting level: asshole

phoenixjj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is one I might have to use

BeefSamples ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:49:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I derive joy from telling people the lyrics to the ice cream truck tune. It has lyrics and they're fucked the fuck up

Epistaxis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:09:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Please derive some joy from us?

SFBayAreaPriusDriver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's pretty fucking diabolical! Are you and your parents still on speaking terms?

spiritcrusher77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Who hurt you?

Storm137 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can't believe this is a thing. My parents took joy in getting me ice cream from the truck when I was a kid. They always said they wished their parents would've done it for them growing up so they were going to make sure I had good memories of it.

Even at 20 an ice cream from the truck still tastes the best.

Sethary ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents called it the music truck till one of my friends "corrected" them. I got ice cream.

JayrassicPark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:43:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

...did you parents buy all the sugar free stuff?

eva278 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:47:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sorry you got punk'd by your genius parents

thaswhaimtalkinbout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:16:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

but if the music's on and there's a line of kids waiting to buy, it means he's selling drugs.

Frankeex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:12:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

too funny.

david2278 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:38:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your parents are geniuses.

holyhekc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:38:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fk that's harsh

ixora7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:05:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Genius.

jason_stanfield ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:00:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So, instead of going to get more, he just drives around neighborhoods playing crappy music really loud?

It's literally the suburban American version of Monty Python's cheese shop sketch.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:16:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the ice cream in a ice cream van is full of bacteria and will make you very sick if you eat it... Actually I'm not sure if that's a lie or truth

niceguybigjess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:32:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's just the music man playing a song for all the kids playing outside

narenare658 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:54:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

the hot pepper truck, joke was on them though i fucking loved hot peppers.

i_izzie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:16:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's what I told my kids I'm evil

WildVariety ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:11:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My Uncle's wife was 19 when she found out this wasn't true.

grrmlin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We tell our kids it's the milkman....

Doctah_Whoopass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:19 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I just find them real creepy. And with shit icecream.

Yeehasmush ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm 37 years old, and I love the ice cream man. We never had one in my old neighborhood and now when I hear it down the street, I grab the kids and run, waving our dollars like ice cream fiends.

I_DontUnderstandThis ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:30:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm going to use that one

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:44:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You copied this from a similar post made here before. Congratulations on your worthless karma!

EDIT: http://www.iusedtobelieve.com/neighbourhood/ice_cream_vans/playing_music/playing_music_s1.php

Fyrsiel ยท 157 points ยท Posted at 02:01:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Okay, when I was a toddler, my dad used to play this game with this rhyme where he'd recite "Fore-acher (and poked my forehead), eye-blinker (the spot between my eyes), nose-stopper (the tip of my nose), chin-bopper (and then my chin)!"

And then like a year or so later, my mom and I were in the car and I said something like "Mom, my fore-acher hurts," and she looked at me and was like, "Honey, that's your forehead."

I looked back at her like she was insane and argued with her, "No... it's my fore-acher!" And she had to answer me back, "No, sweetie, it's your forehead, really!"

And I argued the point with her for half a minute before I realized that all this time, I had been convinced that my forehead was actually called my "fore-acher"...

AsherTheFlasher ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 06:01:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Omg I thought my mom made this little game up. Instead of bopping my chin she would tickle under my jaw. To this day she does it at family get togethers to try to embarass me (in good fun). I giggle every fucking time. I'm 32.

Fyrsiel ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:44:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Awww. Yeah, after "chin-bopper," my dad would then say, "Hey look up at the ceiling...!" and he'd tell me that there were a bunch of dancing monkeys up there, etc. And when I'd look up, he'd do the jaw tickle. Nyuck, nyuck.

[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 04:36:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's actually pretty adorable.

yet-another-user ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:56:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Googled "Fore-acher". Every damn link is porn. ...

Fyrsiel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:22:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I did see that. .__. I tried to look up some kind of definition, even with Urban Dictionary, but couldn't pull anything up. This was years ago, though, back in the late 80s or early 90s, so I don't think the term had much of a meaning, then.

BeerDrinkinGreg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:11:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When my kid was a toddler and learning body part, like "feet", "hands", "legs", "head", etc; she kept pointing at her forehead, and saying "two Head". Didn't click with us, thought she was talking about having two heads of something. Then we figured it out. "Two, four, close enough? They're both numbers, right?"

ShadowPhoenix22 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:37:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's just lovely, really.

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ZDTreefur ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 06:30:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I'm just taking them for... spite. Yeah. I hate these Advil pills so much, I'm consuming them! Sure let's go with that, Billy.

Severinx ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:34:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What the fuck.

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SnakeMan448 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 07:40:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Doctors hate them" is such a weird slogan.

Doctors cannot figure out how something simple works effectively, and that makes them furious with you? Nope, they'd love to work it out and provide ever better treatment.

Hell, if a doctor gets mad about some treatment working, they may well be a bad doctor - the type who would be the one peddling treatment that's ineffective or damaging.

smuckola ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 09:05:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah. There are a lot of bad doctors.

Most of them are probably only about half bad. But they are deathly allergic to the phrase "I don't know", do zero research, and are absolutely done listening after two minutes when their mental checklist of foregone allopathic industrial conclusions is complete.

screennameoutoforder ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 04:30:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can't wrap my mind around homeopathic reasoning. If a tiny portion, three times diluted, represents the original stuff - then isn't the ocean just the same as whale jizz? And isn't all food really just poop?

Memphinstein ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 08:30:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nah nah. It's ment to go like this; You have symptoms of a cold and a plant extract creates the same symptoms. So you put some plant extract in water and dilute, dilute, dilute all the while shaking so it leaves "footprints" in the water to 'capture' the symptoms when you ingest the pill. The more its diluted the more "footprints" it has and therefore more stonger.

Still bullshit tho

huffliest_puff ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:22:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wtf this is the reasoning? I suppose it's a brilliant business model. "The more watered down this is the more potent it is and the more I can charge for it"

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:27:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nahnah, you gotta bang the water against a goat skin drum to get it working. No wonder you're being snarky about it if you missed that step.

Memphinstein ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:41:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not snarky, that's legitimately the reasoning used.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:44 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The "still bullshit though" made it snark. But yeah it is

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Sqeaky ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:00:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you a homeopathic Sith lord looking for homeopathic Jedi to convert?

vedagr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I would gild you for this if I could. This is gold.

Th4tGamerChick ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:58:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom tried to substitute some kind of weird black molasses for an asthma inhaler. Needless to say I ended up in the hospital as a kid..

LHOOQatme ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:38:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I learned what homeopathy was actually like (i.e. you'll eat one particle if you're really lucky), I was pretty pissed that my mother took me to the homeopath when I was a kid

pm-me-a-stray-cat ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:21:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Once my mom had really bad poison ivy on her arm. She cut an onion in half and put it right on the rash as we all watched her, aghast. Hey her grandmother used to do it! That's a vaguely funny story, but seriously, fuck homeopathy.

Edit: too much watching

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pm-me-a-stray-cat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:35:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Home remedies, while less systemic and nefarious, still saw my grandmother all the way to stage 4 cancer!

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pm-me-a-stray-cat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:40:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Irrational aversion to doctors fills me with edginess

OneGoodRib ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:05:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There still are lots of home remedies that work, though. Especially if you're having an emergency or aren't stocked with medicine.

But I mean, of course home remedies should be used more for stuff like poison ivy or bug bites, obviously eating a whole garlic clove and bathing in essential oils isn't going to cure cancer.

Anyway, here's someone from 1914 talking about how they found that rubbing onion slices on a poison ivy-inflicted area of skin relieves the itching almost immediately. (You have to "download a high-resolution PDF" to see the article for free)

pm-me-a-stray-cat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:03:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well now I feel bad for teasing her about it :/

dipper94 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 04:06:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom thinks that shit actually works. Like some of them are ok, mostly the skin products other than just lotion. Burt's Bees makes this amazing bug bite Chapstick thing, never had more relief in my life. Some of the pain blockers work pretty well. Like pain/ache creme.

When it gets to curing colds and presenting sickness it's absolute unrepentant, USDA Grade A Bull-Shit.

rylos ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:37:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've noticed that some products sold as "homeopathic" do it as a way to sell ingredients that might actually be useful to some extent, but just not legal to sell on thier own. Just put out a "homeopathic remedy", and list the potentially useful ingredient as "inactive".

That's why some homeopathic remedies might actually help a bit for some things.

Sqeaky ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:04:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Its better not to encourage this. If a thing only has inactive ingredients then we should think about like Chicken Soup for colds, clearly not a medical treatment for the cold virus but the steam does help clear sinuses.

Letting people confuse "homeopathic" for "medicinal" creates too much room for malicious people to sell their shit.

wasdninja ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:27:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If they work then they aren't homeopathic. Homepathic "medicine" is 100% water, that's the entire point.

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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:30:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Theyยดre ESSENTIAL dude, itยดs in the name!

throwaway-person ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 12:42:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I've cured numerous sicknesses in myself with essential oils including severe kidney infections. They are not a scam. However you have to know how to use them. P. S. Don't downvote just because you don't know. Educate yourself instead.

HMCetc ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:57:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No you haven't.

throwaway-person ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:56:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes I have. Don't let beliefs stop you from accepting scientific realities. Also look up the studies on antimicrobial properties in essential oils.

HMCetc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:34 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No you haven't.

throwaway-person ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:53 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You have no argument but denial. Do some research and accept reality.

tepuiswift ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:07:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wrong.

throwaway-person ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why do you deny the truth?

riptide747 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:07:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just put arnica on your back and it'll cure your cancer

throwaway-person ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:43:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's amazing for muscle aches though.

horyo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:24:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So does the rest of /r/medicine . We understand your pain.

_The_Real_Guy_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:27:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is your heart healthy though? Why not use these crystals and salts to see for yourself.

Doctah_Whoopass ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:54:38 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What really hurts is when people dismiss natural medicines as bunk because they think its homeopathy. Like, no many plants actually do have medicinal effects which is where we first got medicines from and we can actually use them. The difference is that the plants treat mostly symptoms, not cure the actual disease.

Dorskind ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:39:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, a lot of people overuse modern medicine. They'll go to the doctor for a common cold, take drugs for minor issues, etc. The medical industry is all for this, of course. $$$

losnardos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Especially now that you're riddled with horseradish

brettf123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:55:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So, dumb question, what exactly IS homeopathy? Like I see the term a lot but never find a straight answer

vedagr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:02:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Basically, the idea behind homeopathy is you take "remedies" (these can be actual medicines or just random BS) and dilute them to concentrations so infinitesimally small that you would not be able to find a drop of the "medicine" in a container the size of the Earth. Then you take this "solution" and consume it, in the hopes that it "stimulates the natural healing process of the body". So basically bs all around.

brettf123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:32:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ahhhhhhh thank you, see, my family seemed to believe that me using certain herbal remedies was "homeopathy" and called me stupid. Now don't get me wrong, I don't think herbal remedies can solve serious diseases, but a decent herbal remedy can help soothe my sore throat while my prescription antibiotics help me fight off the virus!

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:55:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My Mom makes me feel guilty just by taking ONE Advil (I only ever take one for my headaches). She's so paranoid about getting "intestinal bleeding" that she rather I suffer from a migraine than heal myself.

Techteller96 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fumny, Im in the wqiting room of a homoeopathic doctor right now as I type this.

vedagr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:14:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Uh... Why?

gnaxer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:57:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Homeopathic medicine does work. Just not the way you exspect. It's all a placebo effect, and if you believe it works, it works... Just dont get it instead of crucial medicines

Georgiraffe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:58:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I do just want to say that while I totally advocate for modern medicine, I have parents who are very pro-homeopathy and natural remedies. While I've educated myself since moving out of home, I do find that elements of homeopathy are completely legitimate when done correctly. When I had my wisdom teeth removed, my mother gave me some concoction she'd bought to help reduce swelling. My swelling seemed totally fine so I just stopped taking it - next day I ballooned and bruises started appearing. I think using both in conjunction can be a really good thing if you've done your research correctly.

nh1402 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:14:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My sister with a biology degree still believes homeopathy works.

vedagr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If she dilutes her degree it'll work better!

Squidblimp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:41:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Here's my view. Both are good in the right situationals, though I guess I'd call it "naturopathy." Basically, if something natural is proven to do what you need to do (for example, killing a fungal infection in your gut with garlic tablets instead of lab pills) then it's usually best to do it that way, since there are less side effects and it is better on your body.

However, there is a time and place for pharmaceutical drugs obviously, and antibiotics for more major infections that can't be treated naturally are a great example.

It's good to review it on a case-by-case basis.

I have a great doctor at the moment who is a naturopath, and he prescribes both naturopathic and non-naturopathic stuff depending on the need. He isn't there to just disregard modern medicine.

Just food for thought!

vedagr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:52:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I support home remedies that actually work and are safe. There are a lot of them, some that do and some that don't. Like you mentioned a garlic tablet would work because of the chemicals in the garlic. It works because it's a medicine but safer and less harmful to your body. I'm all for that. I just hate how an entire industry is built upon lies and sugar pills.

Squidblimp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I agree there. Just remember, the America drug industry is also out to make a lot of money too. Gotta be wary of both.

Wealthyontheinside ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:48:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Along similar lines, my missus believes whole heartedly that amber necklaces help with teething pain in babies, instilled from her mother. Makes mr fucking furious as she insists there is no risk to having these little rocks on a flimsy bit of elastic near my childs mouth, but that they really do cure teething pain. Amber has no analgesic properties of any kind.

mensch_uber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:55:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why can't there be a mix? Had a anemic gf in hs that was obsessed with being skinny. Would wonder why she hurt all the time. So I convinced her she had Fibromayalgia. Then got her some homeopathy stuff knowing full well it would have a placebo effect. And it did, for a few weeks until her body got used to it. Then had to explain to her how she's closer to a healthy balance, maybe it's time to start eating red meat for some iron and eating more. Constantly tried to explain to her that calories are a unit of measurement, not tangible things like sugar and fat. (This was around the time low cal became a thing and explaining how it's stupid because your body will just crave more of it and so you're buying 2 low cal things instead of just the one. Like a drug dealer "watering down" his product. But fuck me, the TV and magazines can't all be wrong)

Then I was the devil because I couldn't provide a magic pill like I did last time. And when she heard "gain some weight", her brain interpreted that as "get a boob job". Did get her interested in medicine tho, even bought her greys anatomy, knowing it could be used in college. And sure enough. She became a nurse.

RubyVesper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:09:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lunatic335 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:16:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same. My ma would buy these "natural pill" from Herbalife or 4life which she swears cures everything from common colds to cancer. Trying to tell her it doesn't is like talking to a brick wall. I wouldn't bother caring if it wasn't for the fact she forces me to take her wonder pills.

RedditUserEleventy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:42:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
SpookiestCatOfAll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:51:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My issue is that this stupid shit is "alternative" medicine, if it was "supplementary" medicine, or "some shit that might help you feel better, but seriously, see a doctor", I'd be fine. But nooooo.

Toove ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:57:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Problem is that homeopathy does sometimes work. The cheating companies making it put real medicine in the homeopathic remedies. Nobody controls what the remedies actually concist of.

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Toove ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:52:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No it isn t . That is the point. They put actual antibiotika or medicine that is illegal now due to side effects and pretend that it is sugar pills. Very very dangerous. But gives a direct effect so that people continue to believe.

They cheat. Some of them, at least.

mikeymikeymikey1968 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:22:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You should look up the anti-homeopathy event/protest in England, where a bunch of people were out to prove there was nothing in homeopathic drugs by "overdosing" on piles of homeopathy drugs.

Vedenhenki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm in med school, and we had this course about alternative medicine - what the practitioners believe, what is harmful and what is merely useless, how to deal with patients who are into them, stuff like that.

It included a lesson with a licenced homeopath and a functional nutritional therapist coming to our class, so we could discuss with them and get some insight into their beliefs.

The homeopath expressed great concern that there were unlicensed homeopaths around, and they could pose a risk to the public health! (This is after a scandal with some fake doctors being found out). That was hilarious :)

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Vedenhenki ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:40:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And paid for it, too :)

Given the context, I feel it was not only appropriate but quite useful. Nobody expected us to believe anything he said - and we were quite able to think critically and not believe him, anyway. We are not taught homeopathy, crystal therapy or acupuncture are in any way effective, and that wasn't the point of the course.

But the fact is, some our our future patients do believe in homeopathy. Our job is not to engage them in an academic battle for it's own sake, but to help them understand so that they might get the best care possible, instead of taking distilled water. While just reading from a book would arm us for a debate quite well, actually interacting with people who believe in homeopathy etc. gives us better tools to understand where our patients are coming from, and so help them, instead of making them angry. People do have a tendency of getting angry when told they are wrong.

I hope I cleared any potential confusion. Or if you just found the situation funny - yeah, it was :) Not as funny as future doctors sans pants studying anatomy, though. That's a part of the curriculum, too - and looks quite silly.

heavenlymomma ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:27:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

...not to be confused with holistics (herbalism).

Herbs work, sugar pills and hand holding don't.

Edit: apparently this is a not a popular opinion, but guess what - it's not an opinion. It's a fact.

You've got your head up your ass too far to think that everything on this planet is here to benefit you 100% and that "home remedies" don't work because your mom gave you snake oil.

Look. You don't have to believe me. You can down vote me all you like, but at the end of the day, the facts are there waiting for you.

HiMyNameIs_REDACTED_ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:42:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Herbs really are natures medicine.

I'm a scientist, and I understand that. That said, I'll take an Advil over chewing on tree bark.

vedagr ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:11:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you dilute the tree bark or Advil it'll work better!

flyingcircusdog ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You know what people call homeopathy that works?

Medicine.

telephonybone ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 00:45:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Self hatred

reali-tglitch ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:59:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sadly, I taught that to myself, mostly via early neglect. Unlearning it is hard. Memes help a lot more than they should.

garden-girl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:12:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My father was a terrible alcoholic/addict. I was told repeatedly I was a burden, a stone around his neck. That I was worthless and stupid. That shit still haunts me. While he no longer says that shit, it's on constant repeat in my head. It's impossible to silence, and it's made my life suck.

ColieKit ยท 534 points ยท Posted at 01:19:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom never washed her hands after going to the bathroom. When you're a little girl, it's pretty common that you go to the bathroom with your mom - public restrooms, mostly. But I never saw her wash her hands and she never really encouraged me to. Some time in grade school I realized "ew this is gross", and started teaching myself to wash my hands after the bathroom, after touching food... Etc.

No idea why she's like this - she's not particularly a dirty person. Maybe because she grew up with an outhouse? I don't know.

I think it contributed to me being somewhat of a germaphobe these days.

sykopoet ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 05:24:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was very little (2 yrs to 4 yrs old) I went to a daycare where they actively prevented us from washing our hands, because they didn't want us "playing" in the water and making a mess. Nuts, right? I got sick so many times with things that clearly arose from this issue, I am super paranoid about always washing my hands to this day 34 years later.

DarkStar5758 ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 05:58:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Meanwhile I barely wash my hands unless I'm handling something really dirty or an animal and I've only gotten sick maybe twice in over five years.

atomofconsumption ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 06:11:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You've been in daycare for the past 5 years??

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:40:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You haven't?

[deleted] ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 06:14:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You got sick in daycare and you think it was because of hand washing? Not the 25 or so other toddlers who touch everything, cough everywhere, have a constantly running nose and were in close proximity to you for hours at a time?

rhaizee ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 07:40:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Seriously, kids are gross. They get dirty again seconds after washing. Always sticky hands.

[deleted] ยท -20 points ยท Posted at 08:41:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Calling kids gross is a form of intellectual disability.

My_Name_Is_Pearl ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 06:25:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well if they're not letting any of those toddlers wash their hands and practice proper hygiene, I think it's safe to assume there's a higher risk of getting sick.

chokingonlego ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 08:22:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Given the frequency at which toddlers make more messes, and get dirty, I don't think even washing hands every minute would help. Just curious, do you watch Steven Universe? I saw your username, and thought it was a Steven Universe pun about Pearl.

My_Name_Is_Pearl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No it's a nod at My Name Is Earl Never seen Steven Universe, is it any good?

snowflake247 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:52:10 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's pretty good.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:14:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Unless they're getting ALL the kids to wash their hands every five minutes it's going to do fuck all. I agree it's weird to prevent rather than encourage hand washing but I really really don't believe it makes any difference to how often daycare kids get sick.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:40:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You really are the voice of the Middle Ages here.

natural-fibers ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:59:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not letting the kids wash their hands definitely didn't help, so the teachers should feel bad. Real bad. Kids get messy and they definitely need to learn how to be hygienic and clean up when their done. We wash our hands for a reason, you know. To, like, not get sick.

Blackberry3point14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:14 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also, to not get others sick. You being immune to your own filth doesn't stop other people from being immune to it and you're spreading it to everything you touch.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:23:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Touch everything with unwashed hands, cough everywhere with unwashed hands, had a constantly running nose and unwashed hands, in close proximity with unwashed hands. Not really going for that Nobel, huh? SEMMELWEIS DIDN'T DIE FOR THIS.

SmoothieGeneral ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:26:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Who also didn't wash their hands. My mom does site visits for daycares and early childhood centers and she freaks if kids aren't properly washing their hands. Germs just build and build and build and build. You don't need poop germs on the ball that you're bouncing with little Timmy who just rubbed his eye then picked up a crayon that Suzy is about to use who also rubbed her and and the next thing you know everyone has Pink Eye and Summer still won't stop texting on the fucking toilet. (Last bit is a joke. The res is serious.)

rhaizee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:39:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Doubt that's why you were sick. The second those kids are done washing their hands, theyre sticky again! It's good to build a strong immune system.

Sqeaky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:43:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's not how immune systems work. They need some exposure, not needless exposure.

sykopoet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:18:15 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There are certain very specific illnesses people / toddlers get from wandering around with dirty poop hands. Once I had the same thing (not a cold) 3 or 4 times, my parents and the pediatrician figured it out...

beepbeepitsajeep ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:00:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You mean before touching food, right? Please?

[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 06:30:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Possibly both? I mean, it's pretty important to wash your hands after handling raw chicken.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:30:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Complete opposite for my mom. Apparently my hands were always "sticky" and I was always dirty. So yeah, I wash my hands a lot. I don't reccomend how she taught me to wash my hands but I know it's important and I don't do it till I bleed. (Once washed them for 3 minutes straight just to see if I could hold mom's hand without her saying it but whatever)

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:23:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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SmallLumpOGreenPutty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mum used to avoid flushing the toilet at night because it used to wake me up, so when I slept over a friends house... didn't flush the toilet in the night. Awkward situation the next morning, but her boyfriend knew what I was talking about as he was brought up the same.

Now, my mum collects milk bottles and big plastic containers and holds them under the tap while she waits for the hot water to come through, and uses that bottled water to "flush" the toilet. Sporadically. Because she's trying to minimise the water bill. Luckily (?) the house is too untidy to ever have guests over, so nobody knows the embarrassing toilet secret.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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SmallLumpOGreenPutty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She doesn't just run the tap to fill the bottle, it's when she's running the tap for hot water, she collects the cold that comes out first instead of letting it just go down the drain.

booper_dooper_balls ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:50:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm guilty of this. I know it's fucking gross, it's just I'm such a lazy fuck and don't want to take the extra 20 seconds to wash my hands. (Plus I wear those woven friendship bracelets and hate how long it takes for them to dry once they get wet but that's just an excuse)

droppedforgiveness ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:02:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I do it sometimes when I'm at home too. Especially when I'm binging on water and have to pee every 20 minutes. Like, I'm using toilet paper anyway? I'm not getting pee on my hands, so...

rhaizee ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:41:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I keep this to myself, but same. I pee too often to be constantly washing my dry hands.

Veonik ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:16:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

If you just rub your hands together under running water, you get a lot of the benefit of washing without needing to assault your skin with harsh soaps. It's obviously still not as good as using soap, but it is a lot more sanitary than nothing at all.

Storm137 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:39:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You both are what spreads illnesses y'know?

aubreythez ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:12:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We don't flush pee in my house (to save water). If I have to pee, I'm pulling down my pants, peeing, touching a wad of toilet paper, and that's it. I'm not making hand contact with my genitals or my pee. It's fine.

Sqeaky ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:48:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You are also not washing off germs that build on your hands from all the things you touch all the time.

booper_dooper_balls ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:23:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well I'm not dead yet so I think I'm ok haha

aubreythez ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:30 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh I wash my hands plenty, just not necessarily every time after I pee.

Sqeaky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:24 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Gross. Why would you willingly spread disease?

Don't bother answering, I won't respond. I don't know where your comment has been.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:53:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You must go through a lot of toilet paper in your house. Just visualizing what your toilet looks like by the time you go to poop makes me shudder.

aubreythez ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:51:34 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's a house with 8 people so folks are pooping often enough that toilets aren't usually sitting around with someone else's pee in them for very long.

Also just to clarify, I'm not crumpling up a huge wad of tp to avoid contact with my genitals (I do wash my hands after I pee much of the time, it's not like I'm strategizing here to avoid as much). Just if I've been drinking a bunch of water, I've been peeing a bunch, it's clear, and I fold over a piece of toilet paper (we don't buy thin as fuck tp in my house) once or twice it's more than enough to avoid contact.

Storm137 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:29:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No it's not. The germs transfer. Look it up.

What you're going is genuinely disgusting.

aubreythez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:48:36 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wouldn't bother if you weren't being so uppity, but last time I checked millions of folks perform oral sex on other people's genitals (i.e. the area where pee comes out, often times right after that person has urinated) and don't become ill as a result.

You know what does spread disease? Not covering your mouth when you cough. Touching communal things after making hand/face contact when sick. Fecal coliform bacteria is literally on everything in your bathroom, including your toothbrush, even if it's in a drawer, just by virtue of being near the toilet, and you've almost certainly never gotten sick as a result.

We live in a germphobic society and to be quite frank I'm more scared about the rise of antibiotic-resistant bacteria than by whatever small portion of bacteria is transferred to my being because I don't wash my hands every single time I pee. Get off your high horse.

Sqeaky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:47:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just slide them up your arm until they stick, maybe flesh a muscle, use a post-it or sleeve to hold them.

booper_dooper_balls ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know you're trying to be helpful but I have like 7 of them on one wrist. They don't really move around much so it's like having a big 3" woven bracelet cuff I never take off. It would take like 5 minutes to try and take them all off since they're tied too small to comfortably slide off my hand or up my arm. I just grew up where my mom never made it a point to teach us to wash our hands after and she never cared about hand sanitizer or disinfectants or anything like that. Do I know it's gross? Yeah, but I haven't gotten horribly sick or anything because of it yet so I'm just like "eh, screw it"

Sqeaky ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Those things must be super gross and you are spreading filth and disease. You are making others sick for your own vanity.

You are a bad person.

You should read up on hand washing, every doctor, hygienist and link on the page of google search results when you google "Should I wash my hands when I pee".

booper_dooper_balls ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:35:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wear them in the shower so they get washed by the shampoo and water. Boo hoo, cry to someone who cares.

Sqeaky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It probably does not affect me, you are the person who has to live with the moral ramifications of what you do. One day, hopefully, you will realize that how you look is not worth someone else's health, if not then I hope others treat you the same.

booper_dooper_balls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lol You act like I'm disease ridden and like I've never washed my hands one time my entire life.

Sqeaky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, I do and I wouldn't be wrong to skip shaking you when I meet you would I?

You seem offended by what I have said, it is almost as if it rings true and you wish to deny it. Go read on how germs work, any high school science text would do. You could also google it, I doubt you will though. You talk as though you already know everything you need to.

Now I will leave you and not shake your hand. Goodbye, forever.

booper_dooper_balls ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:06:28 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've already admitted I know it's gross? I'm just lazy and don't want my bracelets wet haha. I'm also not the only person ever to do this so idk why you're singling me out. Whatever, later sqeaky

TehKatieMonster ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 05:30:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Unless you are using a public restroom there is actually no reason to wash your hands. In fact there is no reason to wash your hands with soap unless they are visibly dirty. Also your hands are actually more filthy than your genitals, because you don't open doors and stuff with your crotch. It's actually bad for your immune system to wash your hands constantly though.

[deleted] ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 06:27:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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_Born_To_Be_Mild_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:41:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's my house!

TehKatieMonster ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:31:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do you have lots of STDs?

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:55:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sexually Transmitted Doorsknobs?

[deleted] ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 06:56:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, it's bad for your immune system to use anti-bacterial stuff constantly. Washing with soap and water is recommended after going to the bathroom to help prevent the spread of disease.

Do you lift the toilet seat? The lid? If so, you're touching the place someone's ass has been, or touching vaporized feces. There is no excuse for not (at the VERY least) rinsing them for a few seconds.

For the record, I don't use anti-bacterial soaps, wipes, or anything like that. Just regular soap.

TehKatieMonster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:37:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't touch toilet seats or lids that aren't in my own house. Use my foot for that shit, and if I have to touch it I wash my hands extra good.... cause I'm paranoid.

randiwulf ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:01:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Me too. I call this healthy paranoia.

Paranoia for other stuff is just a waste.

motherofamouse ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:03:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Only times I wash my hands is in public areas or after cooking. But I find it overrated. There is actually good bacteria on it as well. There was an experiment where someone didn't wash their hands for a week, like at all. After a week the so called bad bacteria didn't stand a change because the hands made an other bacteria to solve the problems. Unless I have a health condition, I'm fine with not washing my hands every time. Not showering everyday. Only thing I wash everyday is my private parts. And change your shirts and underwear everyday people!

divided_opinions ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:48:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What about your pits? Don't you smell?

motherofamouse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:22:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not really, only my shirt smells; so old sweat.

divided_opinions ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:16:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh wow, lucky you!

TehKatieMonster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:40:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes try explaining this to other redditors. If you read some of the other comments I am getting quite a bit of hate.

illTwinkleYourStar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:12:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is horrible advice.

Sqeaky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:45:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Unless you are using a public restroom there is actually no reason to wash your hands.

BS. The reason your are hands are that dirty is because you fail to wash them.

Why is basic hygiene so hard?!

FlashGenius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:17:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, if you aren't pissing on your hands or smearing your poop on the walls, your hands really wouldn't get that dirty as long as you regularly clean up down there. Unless you were going to handle food or doing a checkup as the doctor, I don't see a big problem with it for everyday tasks (and they would probably wash their hands again in their work space). Like Monster said, your hands would probably get more infectious after opening the door to a public bathroom to leave, as long as you aren't actively sick with anything.

Sqeaky ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:30:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Its not just about what is or isn't on your genitals. You touch things all the time with your hands, how much filth is on your phone screen, your keyboard, that pen your co-worker chewed, that doorknob that other guy touched that doesn't wash his genitals.... From any of those situations you are an accidental eye-touch away from conjunctivitus or some other accidental touching...

Periodic hand washing is the second most life saving medical technique humanity has devised. Second only too not shitting where we eat.

Also, don't touch knobs on bathroom doors, use the paper towel you dry your hand with.

Finally, I made this copypasta:


How do people get this confused about basic hygiene do a google search for "Should I wash my hands when I pee" and every doctor, hygienist and person smart enough to put text on a web page agrees we should.

The only time there is remotely a problem is when we use anti-bacterial soap excessively, and even then the problem is much smaller than the potentially lethal shitting blood from bad e. colio, or as Oregon Trail called it dying from dysentery.

realdealboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:22:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think what you're saying is that if my dick is that dirty I should be washing my dick in the sink.

TehKatieMonster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:52:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You do you, man

fufabunny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:20:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, I'm not coming in contact with anything thanks to that toilet paper barrier so....

SD__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:52:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds she was never educated about bacteria. It's not that long ago they built the sewers in London because of smell. It just so happened smell was related to cholera.

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On the other hand there are plenty of people these days who do like your mom. I was on crutches for a while. We had a faulty lift and there was a distinct correlation between me having to haul myself up the stairs and me being ill.

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I wouldn't call myself a germophobe but I am doubly concious of packaging. I was put off bread for a long time because I watched a little old lady puncturing bread wrappers with her knarled yellow nails. I now take bread, not from the front or the back, one behind the back iyswim.

oakfeller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:52:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same with my dad! And I'm an utter hygiene freak now. And when I go around, I refuse him to even make me a cup of tea

Genocide_Bingo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:41:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know it's filthy but I rarely ever wash my hands. Dunno, just not something that has ever bothered me. I've never fallen ill because of it and never had a true reason to curve the behavior. Maybe I just have a really strong immune system, maybe that was caused by not washing my hands often.

CatPatronus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:49:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In elementary school there was a rumor that a girl didn't wash her hands after going to the bathroom, so she got sick and died. No one left the bathroom without washing their hands after that

bobbygoshdontchaknow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:34:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

as a guy, I normally only wash my hands if I go #2. Sometimes after peeing if there are people within earshot of the bathroom, I'll run the sink for a few seconds just so they don't accuse me of not washing my hands. I don't get it, it's not like I'm peeing on my hands. I wash my junk in the shower and it doesn't touch anything dirty all day

Sqeaky ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 07:58:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is gross, I am just copypastaing this response


How do people get this confused about basic hygiene do a google search for "Should I wash my hands when I pee" and every doctor, hygienist and person smart enough to put text on a web page agrees we should.

The only time there is remotely a problem is when we use anti-bacterial soap excessively, and even then the problem is much smaller than the potentially lethal shitting blood from bad e. colio, or as Oregon Trail called it dying from dysentery.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:34:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Sqeaky ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:57:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How do people get this confused about basic hygiene do a google search for "Should I wash my hands when I pee" and every doctor, hygienist and person smart enough to put text on a web page agrees we should.

The only time there is remotely a problem is when we use anti-bacterial soap excessively, and even then the problem is much smaller than the potentially lethal shitting blood from bad e. colio, or as Oregon Trail called it dying from dysentery.

With-a-Cactus ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:40:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I remember my dad teaching me this because "bathrooms are dirty and where you're more likely to pick up germs."

iama_canadian_ehma ยท 277 points ยท Posted at 00:34:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm a shitty person and a disappointment. That was mostly my father's doing.

staleswedishfish ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 07:47:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same. Literally asked him for an apology, calmly and kindly without blame or anger, just a simple apology for the hurt he has caused me in the past. Keep in mind that 10 minutes prior he shushed me after I used the word cunt, because "I called you that once and you got mad ..." so he knows he's hurt me.

He exploded, kicked me out my grandmother's house after she had hugged me and told everything was gonna be okay no matter what my dad did or said... He told me he clearly fucked up because I was so ungrateful and nasty and selfish, etc.

Not a tear. I didnt go smoke a shit ton of pot to drown the fear and pain. I felt peace. Utter peace. I came to him as an adult asking for an apology, and he responded like a broken, sad child. That's not on me.

Basically... you're not the sum of your parents' opinions of you. It's a hard thing to unlearn but so damn worth it. Congrats on your own successes!

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:21:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I would have learned not to ask for an apology.

Your resentment and bitterness isn't a product of some irrational thinking or lack of communication, it's a natural response to understanding how shitty your parents are and knowing there's nothing you can do except leave.

iama_canadian_ehma ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:54:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's an excellent point. Anyone who's going through this, listen to this person! You'll need to let go of the bitterness after a while so you don't destroy yourself with it, but it's an entirely natural reaction to being treated unjustly.

iama_canadian_ehma ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 08:48:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I once told him that while I know I'm not the son he wanted (I'm gay and he's very homophobic) and that I'm a disappointment, he needs to start treating me with respect. That's a direct quote. I'd never seen him look at me like that; I'd finally stood up for myself and it felt amazing. Reading your story filled me with feel-goods; him and I are past the point of apologies now, but I'm fairly at peace that he's the shitty one and not me.

e. Fixed grammar

staleswedishfish ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:47:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes that's it exactly! Asking for the apology was a first for me, and it was very critical in moving on. But only because I don't feel the need for the actually apology - just the need to ask. And I feel more fulfilled than I have in ages! (This happened last night, so I'm possibly not so far from needing approval from an abusive parent)

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:19:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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iama_canadian_ehma ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:52:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good on you for realizing that you deserve love. That's such an important step towards healing. You'll find a way to feel better about both not having a loving mother and the shitty way you've been treated. :)

staleswedishfish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:49:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, I have an amazing significant other and a newly forged father figure relationship with my stepdad... so that has been critical in my calm approach. Find the people OR THINGS that give you strength. My mother finds peace in art and beautiful things, while I need social and familial approval even if it isn't from my biological family/an expected source.

HAL9000000 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:45:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You probably didn't need me to tell you this, but he was almost certainly projecting. That is, he was likely disappointed in himself -- for not being as successful as he wanted or not doing certain things as well as he thought he would -- and then becoming bitter about it. He does not set out to be an asshole -- he's just so disappointed in himself that he has decided it feels better to not care rather than to beat himself up about it. And then when he sees others trying to succeed or succeeding, he feels envious but doesn't want people to know he's envious. So the defense is, again, to not care -- to not pay attention to what others are doing -- and perhaps even sometimes to belittle them so he can feel a false sense of superiority over them for just a moment.

Having grown up with expectations of myself and then underachieving, I can feel my own tendency to feel disappointment in myself and I know that it sometimes comes out as anger at others (although I try very hard to be mindful of this and not to actually insult people).

mikeymikeymikey1968 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:17:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Please tell us you're 100% over that.

iama_canadian_ehma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I sure am. It's been a process, but recent events have made me cut him out of my life almost entirely. I'm still cordial with him whenever I'm forced to be in the same room as him, but his opinion on how I live my life doesn't matter to me anymore.

ShadowPhoenix22 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:35:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sorry that ever happened. Just not true.

iama_canadian_ehma ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:41:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, it's not true. Well, the latter part probably is, but as I've said elsewhere in this thread, him being disappointed with me is on him; his opinion on how I decide to live my life isn't important to me.

ShadowPhoenix22 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:48:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good for you.

BeefSamples ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:58:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well i hope you realize now that you aren't a shitty person or a disappointment now.

iama_canadian_ehma ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 08:32:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, I'm still a disappointment to him, but he can go piss up a rope. His opinion is no longer important to me.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:20:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

woohoo

we out here fam we made it

(well u did)

UltimateShingo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:36:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know that feeling. After years of literally everyone around me giving me those signals, these days it's my own doing :/

ExtremelyLongButtock ยท 1033 points ยท Posted at 04:24:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They instilled in me that all I had to do was go to college and get through it and then I'd get "my job" that would pay $60k (with benefits) and then I'd work there until I retired, didn't matter what I studied or if I networked or pursued extracurriculars. Just finish school and you get your job. When that didn't work... "put in more applications!"

I graduated in 2008, when there was no economy, with a useless degree and no extracurriculars or internships and a GPA that was too shitty to even consider grad school. I've spent the last 8 years figuring out that this is now a "hustler's economy" and you don't make money by "applying to places and sending out your resume" unless you're looking for a $9 an hour job at a sandwich shop.

You have to develop actual skills, be good at bullshitting, talk to people, keep your eyes and options open, be willing to expand your skill set, keep an eye on what skills are marketable, not be afraid to jump into something just because you've never done it before, realize that employer loyalty is a two-way street that is permanently closed and has been for years, etc. Every good job I've ever had has come from a lead that a friend has given me. None of them have come from shotgunning my resume to every pyramid scheme in the craigslist classifieds.

Basically I had to learn this entire skill set and mindset that was completely alien to me, and unlearn the notion that you just step off the graduation stage with your bachelor's in English and start courting job offers from all the places that are eager to hire a guy whose main selling point is that he's "literate... like, extra literate."

zamuy12479 ยท 169 points ยท Posted at 06:45:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I graduated in 2008

Christ, man. Fuck. That's like saying "I joined the military early 2001"

ExtremelyLongButtock ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 07:47:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, it resulted in about 2 years of godawful temping jobs before I went back to school in a focused, mature way for a useful degree. So basically it put me about 5 years behind on the start of my professional life.

OneHonestQuestion ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 10:13:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What degree did you end up going with?

angry_shoe ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:49:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lol, I was in boot camp when the towers were hit. Antiterrorism class learning about Osama, the Jihad , and the USS Cole when we were told about the first tower.

TheTartanDervish ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:26:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Um, I joined in June 2001, but it's the military so you should kind of expect there might be violence involved at some point. Most people were thinking like WW2 stuff though, not asymmetrical conflict.

Arcanewarhol ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:07:55 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This was me, too. Well, 2010, but in that year every business was busy rehiring all of the experienced people they fired in 2008 at the same prices as they could get fresh college grads. Spent the next two years as pizza delivery driver, receptionist tech at a plasmapheresis center, leasing agent at an apartment complex, and 10 months in oilfield services making shitty pay at all of them.

In 2012 I joined the National Guard to learn some different marketable skills and it wasn't until 2013 that I was able to finally get an IT job on an enterprise help desk which helped launch me into systems administration in late 2014. Except for having to be on nightshift since that day, I haven't looked back.

eyeofmine79 ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 06:09:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Kind of the same boat as you..busted ass to get all the scholarships I could get ect. ect...dropped out after the first year and learned a trade as an electrician and hvac..love my job and make loads more than my parents. Find your own way brutha

Just_a-car_guy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:48:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was thinking of joining the electrical union. How is it?

eyeofmine79 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:22:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not in a union. In my area, the union isn't all that great. Most of them guys make really good pay but typically have to drive at least 2 hours and work 8 months out of the year. Just remember, in any trade, you have to do your time before the big money starts coming in

Buttermynuts ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:54:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ect

It's actually 'etc'.

PtolemyShadow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:03:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was thinking about electrical engineering, what's a good place to start?

eyeofmine79 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:18:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That was my major but realized I didn't want to fix other people's problems from behind a desk, hence becoming an electrician

PtolemyShadow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:03:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think I'd just be happier doing things with my hands that also requires thought. This seemed like a nice option.

eyeofmine79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My thoughts exactly

Grimpaw ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 06:19:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Life was just different when your parents graduated. Don't make the same mistake with yours. The way of starting your adult life might be drastically different from what's now.

Kareus ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:09:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

right? its not like they gave bad advice on purpose. :(

TheTartanDervish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think this person's saying that was the One Acceptable Life Path according to their parents. My family was the same way, it didn't matter if you wanted to go to college or if you found white-collar work was destroying your soul, that was your obligation to your entire family. Which is a lot of pressure and years of brainwashing to overcome.

Kareus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:12:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

yeah most of the people I know who "don't have any family living nearby" moved because of the same thing. And they just went to do what ever they wanted and never looked back. O_o

Clone1138 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 06:03:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh god. I also graduated college in 08 with a bullshit degree (social science). It was brutal. It took me almost a decade to finally develop a valued skillset.

art_and_musicfiend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Graduated me in '08 as well with communications degree. I've been doing SEO/PPC work ever since and don't like it much.

Switching careers now.

[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 07:38:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can you share your story on how you learnt to socialize? I basically am in the same situation as past you but I have come to same realization last year at the age of 16. I understand that I am lucky to realise this before adulthood but I am struggling to make friends, small talk, bullshitting with friends etc.

ExtremelyLongButtock ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 08:22:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Man I don't know if I have any useful advice there, because for me a lot of it is actual social anxiety. I guess just realize that bullshitting and small talk is a thing that most people find effortless and relaxing, but for some people, probably including you, it's the exact opposite. It requires you to engage mental muscles that aren't well developed. It takes every bit of your concentration.

I have to actually, consciously, be aware of my breathing, and default to a few topics that I've got memorized. I literally spend about 10 minutes a day looking up the weather forecast before I go into work just because I know it's an "inconspicuous" topic to steer the conversation toward. I hate sports and don't understand them so that's a big hurdle. Also, knowing a lot about movies helps. They're like the third best chit-chat topic after weather and sports.

If you need to keep a conversation going, the best thing I've found is to just ask questions, pay attention to the answers, ask more questions based on those, and let things develop from there. If someone says something that strikes on something you're interested in, or reminds you of an anecdote, then it's your turn to carry the conversation for awhile (just try to pay attention to whether or not you're boring them).

If it's a conversation with professional overtones, that's also a good way to subtly insert things about your skills and talents and experience. On rare occasions, that'll remind them of a job opening they know about. I've gotten a couple jobs that way. I guess that's what "networking" is.

As far as being able to start conversations and make friends, you're still a little bit young for the only solution I've found, which is to get (slightly) drunk and then let the pieces fall into place on their own. If I overhear a conversation where people are wondering about something that I know tons about, I'm a lot more willing to butt in if I've had a few drinks, and it usually goes pretty well.

Just remember not to be a dick just because you know a lot about something. The point is to make friends, not make other people feel bad for not knowing everything about the Garfield & Friends extended universe (that's what reddit is for). If you can figure out how to do that sober, you've probably got it made.

When the conversation is winding down, say "It's been good talking with you. We should hang out sometime" (even better if you can come up with something specific to do when you hang out, like a movie you're both looking forward to or a video game you both like). Then exchange contact info and don't be afraid to actually contact them later, that's why they gave you their number. That's often the hardest part because you have to go from being in your comfort zone, alone in your bedroom with your anime porn or whatever, to actively reaching out for social contact. That's why texting is such a godsend.

I guess it boils down to (in rough order of importance): know about trivial bullshit that everyone's interested in (like the weather, or sports if you're into them, or movies), ask questions, be willing to share your own knowledge and experiences, and be willing to follow up after the first conversation. You are right that you're lucky to still be young and realize this, because knowing that you need practice at that stuff will make it a lot easier.

Hopefully something in this rambling shitlog of a post was useful to you. Good luck out there little guy!

kingmanic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:51:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Small talk is just how people gauge the current social climate. If you're averse to it, it basically shut you out of the majority of social networks which is a huge part of finding good jobs. Considering it trivial bullshit is probably a huge problem in itself and can be a huge contributing factor in never being able to find work. Most people will find you weird and most people don't want to hire people they can't get along with.

If that is your nature then you need to have extremely valuable skills. It's why the socially awkward IT guy is a cliche. although that skill set is much less valuable now.

meat_muffin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:49:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm an extrovert who lives for meeting new people/small talk/all those other things people hate, and I can confirm: this is exactly what I do. Ask people lots of questions, talk about trivial bullshit. If you find something you have in common, talk about that for a bit. In social, non-work situations, it also helps to have a story or two (aim for funny, but mine tend to lean towards dramatic) to pop in, that's relevant to the conversation.

Also worked in DC for a while, and this is literally what every single "networking" event is like. Everyone dreads going to them, but all you have to do (I say it like it's easy, sorry if I sound like an asshole) is find something in common and go from there. People are more likely to remember you if you are yourself and don't come across as needing/wanting something (like a job). I've watched several encounters where a too-enthusiastic person literally tried to hand their resume over at a networking event (AWKWARD, do NOT do this!), but seen a genuine conversation between people lead to an interview offer on the spot.

Tristige ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 09:01:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Was super shy in hs, at some point I just stopped caring lol

Literally 99% of the people in HS will never talk with you again, and this is usually not a bad thing at all, you find your best friends that way. Just pretend you're the person you see yourself as.

Interacting with people just seemed to become normal to me. I still don't "go out a lot" but just hit up every opportunity you can, leave all doors open. I was able to get a job working on a network TV show by doing a job for a guy on craigslist of all places.

ThisIsMyCouchAccount ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:45:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Okay. First, sorry to the other guy. He is almost completely wrong. What he/she/they/whatever has told you how to do is hide the actual problem. In the most simplistic of terms - it's lack of confidence.

And it has zero to do with being an introvert or extrovert. None. Zero. Not related at all. Most "introverts" really aren't. At worst they have some form of social anxiety. At best they are just awkward and don't know how to interact with people.

I realize this is easier said than done. You just have to remember that this moment - whatever it is - doesn't define who you are. That doesn't mean you can go around doing or saying whatever you want. It means that saying the wrong thing or fumbling your words or not knowing about a particular subject has nothing to do with your value as a person.

Now for actual advice - that's harder. But being social is just like anything else in life. It takes work. It also means some people are going to be better at it than you. That's fine. Lot's of people are better than you at a lot of things. But being comfortable with that knowledge is important.

Also, "small talk" isn't pointless. It's low hanging fruit. If you take a moment you'll realize that there is a person there. Behind asking about the weather or your how your weekend was is a person that is probably more like you than not. Small talk is what we do before we know something more about a person.

That's why it seems so superficial to some people. It has to be. We are communicating in universal topics - generally speaking. Everybody experiences the weather. If you froze your ass off walking to work so did everybody else. From the mail room to the board room - everybody had to bundle up and walk through some smutz to get to work.

Eventually, you get past that and learn more about the person. Or maybe you don't. Maybe this is the only time you'll ever speak to them. You might as well be friendly. It doesn't cost anything.

Imadejust4this ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:34:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

watch loads of stand-up comedy dude. The improv muscles those guys have are gr8. As a hardcore introvert who is now really outgoing, stand-up comedy really really helped. You'll find yourself cracking jokes and stuff because your understanding of timing and humour improves so much.

Vayes ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:43:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As someone who wants to go to college for English-related stuff, were there actually jobs available, or was it just difficult to get them?

uberwannabe ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 06:17:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Plan ahead and get some internships/co-ops under your belt at companies that hire from their intern programs. That's the single best advice I can give anyone with a humanities degree (I was a philosophy major).

There are surprisingly more opportunities available to people who are still in college than for people who have graduated but have no work experience.

Jonathan_the_Nerd ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 06:28:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's good advice for any degree, not just humanities.

Versatile337 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 11:54:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was so surprised when many opportunities told me no because I wasnt still in college. Isn't someone that completed their degree better qualified? Nope, they specifically want people who are still in school. Plan way ahead. Thank God I have a "useful" degree and still found a job after 8 months. Management Information Systems

jonmcconn ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:24:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Graduated with writing degrees and the only thing that got me a job was internships I did while in school (and luckily being in a city that had plenty of places around).

I imagine it'd be much more difficult without life-crippling loan debt like I ended up with, but I think the main lesson I got was that you gotta be doing something/anything to get a foot into a door while you're still in school. Then as long as you maintain good relationships and have some things to put on a resume you'll at least be graduating with a major-adjacent path beginning to materialize.

I wonder if it's any noticeably easier for more recent grads.

ExtremelyLongButtock ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 06:40:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There are jobs available for whatever degree you choose. It depends on what you want to do with it. And if you're going to spend 4 years working towards a degree, the most important thing to remember is that you need some idea of what you want to do with it. Don't just enroll and pick a major because high school's over and Mom and Dad said it's time.

When you figure out what you want to do with your degree, spend your time in college honing your skills and demonstrating your interest in that area with internships, volunteer work, specialized coursework, part time jobs (if they're available), etc.

People who study English have a million different reasons for wanting to do so, which means there are a lot of different ways to differentiate yourself. But you have to actually differentiate yourself to have a shot. You won't even necessarily wind up in the field you're preparing for, but you'll still have a leg up on people who just did what they could for their C or B and spent the rest of the time sleeping in because they could get away with it.

Also the job market is about a million times better now than it was when I graduated. In 2008 the answer would have been "No, there are no jobs available, anywhere."

Kareus ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:08:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's like people who want to become an actor, basically. Just slightly more realistic....

Source: unemployed arts degree owner

mentaljewelry ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:05:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Tech writing is a solid career for English/Journalism majors, and sometimes you can do it from home.

You can work a series of long-term contracts in the financial or software industry, or (rarely) get hired on permanently. There are also (apparently) opportunities to write military/government stuff in Quantico, VA, but I don't know anyone who went that route.

The job involves taking heavy technical jargon and turning it into clean, visual 8th grade reading level copy for end users. Manuals, procedures, etc.

The key is to get some kind of office position during or right after college so your resume can claim you are a whiz at all things Microsoft office. From there, Google tech writing recruiters and get your name out there. Then they'll call you.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not an English major, but before, during, and after college, I was made very aware from lots of people and places that most liberal arts degrees - which English falls under - are not that marketable. If you want to study English, cool, but you'll be better off studying business or some STEM field as well just to increase your prospects.

You'd probably be OK if you tacked a teaching certificate onto your English degree.

thaswhaimtalkinbout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:23:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

english is fine. teaches you to write decnet english prose. it better. otherwise you're totally fucked.

but also take an accounting class, an econ course. an acting class to learn social skills (seriously). ballroom dancing. so you know how to deal with the real world of adults.

SunsetLine ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 07:40:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"extra literate" lmfao......

spiritbx ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:04:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think I have the skills to swindle people into giving me money, I just don't have the heart for it, I hate people that do that and could never do the same unless in a desperate situation.

ExtremelyLongButtock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:43:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh I'm not talking about swindling people. I think most people "could" swindle people if they could ignore the screaming of their own conscience.

I just mean being aware of your strengths, figuring out unconventional ways to apply them, and realizing that "education" and employment aren't as closely related as a lot of people think. "Bachelor's Degree" is not a skill, basically.

Suhn-Sol-Jashin ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:39:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What do you mean by the employer loyalty bit?

ExtremelyLongButtock ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 07:45:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just that people need to understand that your employer is not your family. Any job you have today will leave you with no way to pay next month's rent the second it becomes convenient for them. There's still kind of a lingering perception (that my parents used to buy into but don't anymore), that if you're going to quit a job you have to do it the "honorable" way: giving them enough notice to find, hire, and train your replacement (which you're supposed to help them with), even if it means delaying a better opportunity.

The truth is: You aren't obligated to endure any bullshit beyond what's in your job description. You don't owe them a debt of gratitude for buying your labor; it's a business transaction, not a sacred lifelong bond. You aren't being "disloyal" by keeping your ear to the ground for other opportunities, you're being smart. And if a better offer falls into your lap, your only obligation is to do what's best for yourself. Any problems caused by your employer's inability to retain you is theirs, not yours. They'd dump you without a second thought and nobody would criticize them for it, because that's the way business is done.

My last job was awful and dysfunctional. Me and one other person were keeping our whole department afloat and getting nothing but grief for our trouble. We both found better opportunities at almost the exact same time, which happened to be right before our department's "busy season" started. Our boss had just taken a 1 week vacation on the day I turned in my 2 week notice. The other person turned theirs in the next day. Boss didn't check email while she was gone, so she only had 1 week notice that her entire department was burning to the ground.

Other departments at the company were also losing their best people, some of whom had worked there more than a decade, and regardless of how helpful and polite they tried to be about the transition, the second they were out the door the gossip mill went into overdrive about what awful employees and people they were. Sure enough, I heard through the grapevine that there was a lot of "How could they? After all we did for them! I guess loyalty doesn't count for anything these days..." chatter among the higher ups after we left (apparently it was especially vicious in our case because we left at the same time and that department became a smoldering crater/giant embarrassment to the company). I don't give a shit, and I don't feel the slightest bit bad about it, especially considering that is was happening company wide and they weren't learning any lessons from it.

Sorry about the rant. The point is that your employer already wields most of the power in the relationship, and you shouldn't let anyone guilt you for exercising what little power you do have, even if it inconveniences the people who used to sign your paychecks.

ameya2693 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:22:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How could they? After all we did for them! I guess loyalty doesn't count for anything these days...

I like how the higher up management acted like complete dicks to you and still had the balls to call upon 'loyalty' as their argument. What kind of la-la fantasy land do these people live in?

ExtremelyLongButtock ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:36:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The whole management apparatus was so, so dysfunctional and incompetent, largely due to nepotism/cronyism. In my last year of employment there, I went through 3 direct supervisors (and about a 1 month period with no supervisor at all because they promoted someone to that position the week before she went on maternity leave), and 4 different head bosses.

It's one of the reasons I wasn't worried about burning bridges when I left. Any job in the future that calls and asks for a reference from my supervisor is just gonna get a confused grunt before getting transferred to HR, who can only tell them when I worked there and that I wasn't fired. All my professional references from that job are actual co-workers.

Riddle-Tom_Riddle ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:47:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Actually, I've been looking for another job, and I'm going to give two weeks notice when I get one. The only reason I'm looking is because my current one doesn't pay enough. I really like the crew that I work with, and my manager has been in my corner more than enough times for me to at least not make them rearrange the schedule when we're already pretty understaffed(The part-timers are almost at full-time hours). The work itself isn't terrible, either.

I don't much care for upper management, but my direct superior? They've definitely earned my respect. I'm actually worried about not being able to work with people like this wherever I go next.

NotASwarmofBees ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:15:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had that feeling when I left my last job - loved my coworkers there - Worried about working with new people. If you're worried about who your potential new coworkers are, once you get into interviews, ask about work life balance and the company culture. What do they like about it, what don't they like about it. If they give you a tour of the department or you walk through it, observe how everyone interacts with each other, whether they look normal workload stress or like they've been hit by a train, do they look happy? I also looked at Glassdoor for opinions on the company.

I had to take a practical exam during my in-person interview for my current job and hearing the way everyone joked and interacted with each other while I was doing it gave me the confidence to accept the job offer because I knew I'd be a pretty decent fit. Two and a half years later, still getting along great with my department (Though admittedly I'm thinking of moving on again in the next year or so because I'm hitting close to as far as I can go right now in my company at this moment and subsequent pay).

Suhn-Sol-Jashin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:33:15 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you for taking the time to reply.

It's good to know some people would have appreciated the way I left my last job. It was great when I started, but a hellhole when I left.

ExtremelyLongButtock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:32 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same with the job I was talking about. I loved it in the beginning. And it wasn't just a honeymoon phase, it was genuinely a cool place where people cared about what they did and everyone showed up to work eager to help each other out and experiment and joke around. It's weird how a few bad hires and promotions just became cancerous and rotted the place from the inside.

I can literally trace it to 3 people who were horribly unqualified for their jobs and vindictive and gossipy. Morale of the entire place collapsed over the course of 4 or 5 months and by the time I left you only talked to the 2 or 3 people in your clique, and most of those conversations were about going back to grad school or finding another job or what unfair bullshit this or that manager was pulling this week.

the_one2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:13:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Two weeks notice is so ridiculously short. In Sweden it's something like at least 1 month notice whether you are quitting or being fired.

ExtremelyLongButtock ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 11:56:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In the US, it's acceptable for employees to give 2 weeks notice before leaving a job, and for employers to give 0 days notice before terminating someone (for things like layoffs you'll often get more advanced notice, but not always).

tahlyn ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:02:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's because in the US we have "at will" employment, which means employees get 0 protections and at any time anyone can leave a job or be fired with 0 notice. You could walk in today, say "fuck you I quit," walk out and never go back. They could do the same to you.

It's one of the many reasons the US employment system sucks.

Then consider our health benefits are directly tied to employment. Your employer can leave you without health insurance/benefits in an instant and for no reason at any time.

tahlyn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That sounds a lot like my former employer.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:44:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

By far the easiest way to advance in your career is to apply for the position above yours at competing companies. It is also safe to assume that you will not be paid fairly unless you go out of your way to prove your value.

tahlyn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:03:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly. And it's not just advancement. Let's say you're an administrative assistant, a secretary, an HVAC technician, an electrician, or any other position where you don't typically "move up" to manager roles or higher roles... you do the same thing your entire life just faster, better, and with more skill and finesse.

The only way to get a raise, and keep your current salary up to par with new-hires is to change companies as most existing employers do not do raises at all, or if they do they do 1% or maybe 2% and don't keep up with inflation or the market at all.

Suhn-Sol-Jashin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:36:31 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to ask for a raise working at a job for 6 months when I found out they were hiring teenagers with no work experience at a higher rate than I was making.

They said they would, 2 paychecks later, no added rates, I left right before a lunch rush.

They cussed me out over text.

syntaxvorlon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:14:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can write a good reddit post, so you got that Caddyshack reference (I have not seen Caddyshack).

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:47:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is the worst.

Built-In ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:17:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is so huge. I'm finally in school to get my bachelors degree in a professional field and joining a student organization has helped my chances of getting a job so much.

For anyone in school: join an org related to your field. Quality organizations will do things like facilitating recruitment events, have company reps come out to talk to your group, and organize trips to companies in your area. TALK to the professionals. Make yourself familiar with them. This is how you get job offers after graduation!

Wealthyontheinside ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:44:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I fucking loathe this shit. My sister wad the same with me. Must try hard in school,must go to college and uni etc. Bullshit.

I read a book last year that really explains this problem well, Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:28:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki.

Funnily enough, he's a fraud when it comes to the money part.

Wealthyontheinside ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:33:39 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh yes? Could you elaborate on this some for me please?

badmother ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:54:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This should be at the top!

SonOfaSaracen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:58:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This

Leviticus59 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:46:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, to be fair, that was the golden ticket immediately after WWII and up until around 1980-ish. I bought into the same story, but times have certainly changed. Good on you for sorting it out.

dracofolly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:12:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Let's be honest, the social contract from the 90s until the recession was "Just go to college and study whatever you want because there will always be a job punching numbers into a computer waiting for you if your dreams don't pan out" well those jobs disappeared for the most part, and the ones that are left are all done by unpaid interns now.

Tristige ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:54:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

all I had to do was go to college and get through it and then I'd get "my job"

then

I graduated in 2008, when there was no economy, with a useless degree and no extracurricular or internships and a GPA that was too shitty to even consider grad school.

I know its different for every field, however its hard to get out of college with a decent degree and not get a decent job. I mean, unless you only have a degree.

I went for CS, I went in thinking the market would be over saturated. (it kinda is but mostly cause fucking companies outsourcing jobs to India and abusing visas) however, I still managed to find some good jobs, got good offers, I did a lot of things outside of the degree though, had my own projects etc.

Anyways, coming from someone who had the same mindset, it kinda does work out in the end if you do it right, you just gotta have something besides just a degree.

This is coming from someone that hates college, the very idea of it. They have a monopoly on "securing futures" so they can tack on useless bullshit classes to rev up that revenue. I hope one day there's a decent alternative to college. I see them as leeches lol

CSCareerThrowaway223 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:35:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not even with a Computer Science degree and professional software development experience at 2 different internships am I finding this to be true. No one can take a chance on a new grad like that, the positions that I'm finding pay more like 38-44k a year, at most.

Back to the same old part time jobs I worked just to get me through college. Can't even get internships anymore since I'm not still technically a student.

ExtremelyLongButtock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:45:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait are you saying you can find positions that pay 38-44k a year or am I misreading your post? Those sound better than a bunch of part time jobs...

CSCareerThrowaway223 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not yet! But yea, IT jobs through contracts through recruiting companies. ~20-24/hr

Zerhackermann ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:50:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

UPVOOOOOTE!!!

This is my parents. and I dropped out of college for the umpteenth time about when you were born. College was just not for me. Even in art school doing something I loved, I got the "But you will get an actual degree right?"

They were convinced that I would be a low life "gas jockey" If I didnt get that damned bachelors.

So here I am now, a 20 year IT professional having earned enough to be the sole breadwinner in my family. Now supporting myself, my son, paying the post-divorce costs (the usual ones. not a big deal) and owning a home AND doing all of this through two economic crises (Dot Bust and Housing Crash)

But I dont have that degree. So I am somehow lesser.

Now my son is entering his senior year in high school. And my parents are at it again. With him.

I told them "Dont you think its obvious by now that college is a poor choice unless you know exactly what you want from it? Thats what I have told him. And I am perfectly happy with him choosing a trade instead of college. I am also perfectly happy with coming to an arrangement for other goals he might have. If he wants to work and save for something he wants to do, I'm all for it. He is welcome to a very discounted rental arrangement in my house. Work for a year, save cash and then run off to Chile for 9 months? Hell yes, I wish I thought of that when I was 18. Save up to pay for deposits and such for an apartment? I'm down. College will still be there. And I would rather that college be seen as an investment with an actual return on that investment, instead of 'Well, I guess thats what I do next...'"

eep. sorry about the wall of text...it sort of pushed a button.

nytheatreaddict ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:26:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Poli Sci degree. I have no skills, really. Definitely none from studying that, at least. I'm looking for jobs now and I'm just like "okay, retail. No other skills other than some theater management so even with my clearance it's going to be retail." I'm looking at a marketing certificate program through a school of continuing studies near me, but that requires money I don't have.
Get internships, kids. And graduate with a decent GPA. And major in something you can at least tolerate, career-wise.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:29:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I started studies in my late 20's and got a job immediately. Now I'm earning much more than 60k.

The key isn't to study, but to get an education.

shyndy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:30:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you me?

cqm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:55:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is so weird to me

Like, is it just luck that my degree results in demand from the job market

Or would I have objectively looked at the situation and chosen a major that had good growth, and if mine didn't, then chosen another one

HM88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:29:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow, you are me except I graduated in 2009.

Genocide_Bingo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:36:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

SUPER LITERATE.

It's okay DC, I'm willing to negotiate a price for this new superhero.

Just_a-car_guy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:46:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Welcome to the hustle. It's tough and cruel but can pay dividends for someone who just knows hot to work the system.

NotASwarmofBees ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:04:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel you - also a survivor of the class of 2008 (that and 2009 were tough times). I went to a decent school AND did the internship/extracurricular circuit (Luckily GPA isn't an issue in my field). Even with that, was unemployed for roughly eight months, ended up languishing in retail for a year and a half (Lord, I didn't even make $9 an hour, what sandwich shop gives you that much), and living at home. Parents also instilled to me the notion of "Go to college, that's all you have to do" and you'll be set (Even though they should have known better from their own experiences - Guess they figured it was because they were older). They also emphasized the whole "You're not putting in enough resumes", "Stop being picky", "You're just being lazy", etc. even when I was hitting triple digits in terms of amount being sent.

After a certain point I was like fuckit and did basically what you said - Evaluating what was marketable/expanding my skill set/talking to everyone and networking as much as I could/taking risks on applying on things. Admittedly it was sheer luck from a cold-call that got my foot in the door in the industry I had my degree in (Graphic Design) - But the additional skills I learned helped me keep it (It was supposed to be a freelance print job for three-months, it turned into four years with working on digital media as well). Of course when you're young and unemployed, you're desperate as hell so I definitely low-balled a bit (And I regret it to this day), but slowly making up for it. Now I'm with a different company and finally getting to the point I want to be at (Sr. Graphic Designer), but Jesus, if I had known then what I know now... I will say I got lucky that I'm still even in the field I studied for (And enjoy), I have a few friends from the program I was in switch to new career fields entirely.

I hope you're doing better than 8 years ago too, man.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:11:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well why the hell would you get a degree in English?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:32:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had the opposite experience. I ignored my parents who insisted on me dropping my extra-curriculars and focus on studying. Instead, I persisted throughout uni and joined every music/performance/whatever society, took part in multiple projects, and had heaps of fun. My marks aren't all that great, but after throwing applications at every position open for the last 3 months, I had 5 interviews in a month with offers at two different companies offering $70k/$80k, and I'm doing a lot better than the guys who did nothing but study all day and night.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:44:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This was taught to me by every educational institute my entire life , along with my family and all their friends. Because back in their day if you coughed too hard you could get a job. Even my college was like you're gonna get a job easily making no less than 40k. And why wouldn't we believe this? It was 2006 and the idiot of the class was making 50k 3 months out of graduation .

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

RemindMe! 8 hours

Squatcher84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

At first I thought someone wrote my life story. Graduated in 2008, bach degree, great grades, didn't get me shit. I applied to no telling how many jobs either: overqualified or wanted more experience. What happened? Friend got me a job at her company with starting pay of $8. I would sit there thinking to myself, I'm not expecting a handout by any means but is this really all a college degree gets me!? That corporate job opened my eyes to whole lotta shit.

onexbigxhebrew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:27:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I would agree with a lot of that, except I will say that part of the reason your resume isn't getting anywhere is your major and shitty gradees. I graduated Magna cum Laude in Business and got hired into a big scope role from a big company where I had no connections a month after graduation, and it wasn't a top tier school. It can happen, you just have to be at the top of the pile.

Severinx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So much this. My parents constantly yelled at me that I needed to go to college. Guess what? I didn't go to college. Other kids in my highschool did go to college. They are now in DEBT and CAN'T find a job in the field they studied in.

I DIDN'T go to college and I DO have a job making MORE money than they are. It's an easy enough job also. I didn't even have to do anything special for this job. Why the fuck would I purposely put myself in moderate to severe debt for a degree that would be totally worthless in this horseshit economy?

My parents still don't get it. I tell them "I have a very good and easy job with no debt. All the kids in my class who went to college have a minimum wage job and have a lot of debt.". They still think I should go to college. Nope. I could easily retire with this job. So fuck that.

skizatch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe you should write a book about it. Or even a blog. Could be quite interesting if you do it right

bombrjacket ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So this. This should be in r/bestof

mikeymikeymikey1968 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:17:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your parents were spot-on...until about 1980.

awkwardturtle9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:47:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think multiple generations need to learn that lesson. The job market has changed so drastically, it's rough out there.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ohhh yeah, been there, done that. Was told that if I just go to any college and graduate, I'll get a six-figure job before the ink on my diploma was dry. I was also forced into art college because my mother was convinced that it would be an extremely lucrative career path and I'd be making so much money without even trying.

I've been officially, gainfully employed for four months out of my whole life with those degrees I "had" to get. Still waiting on that six-figure job! I still haven't learned how to properly get a job and I've pretty much just resigned myself to taking horrible, low-paying jobs where I get treated like shit and then fired for "not being a good fit" for the rest of my life. While trying to pay off $135K in student loans.

idownvotestuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:36:23 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This reminds me of an ex of mine. Both her parents are teachers and all they taught her was study hard and it will all turn out ok. She was a valedictorian both in highshool and the university. But her first job interview was tough. They told her she only has book smarts and it's not enough. This baffles me: unless they lived in a fantasy world, grown-ups can't possibly not know that school alone is not a recipe for success in life but they still sell this BS to their kids. I mean, don't be the last in your class and if you find a subject you enjoy try to get good at it, but who the hell needs in the real working world people with A+ skills in math AND history?

Twotoomanyclaws ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:16:11 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You just described my life, holy crap. I will say that learning the new skillset after college got me into SpaceX, but it was a long hard road.

blueyemickey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:37:51 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What did you get into if you care to share?

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:41:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I graduated in 2008,

Obviously your shitty parents should have seen the worst job market in history coming years in advance.

[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 08:49:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I graduated in 2008, when there was no economy, with a useless degree and no extracurriculars or internships and a GPA that was too shitty to even consider grad school.

Your degree being useless is 100% your fault. So is your GPA. So is your lack of extracurricular activities and likely your lack of obtaining some form of internship or entry level job. This is literally 100% entirely your fault, and there isn't anyone else to blame but you.

You're not wrong about developing actual skills, being good at bsing, and networking with other people though.

[deleted] ยท 185 points ยท Posted at 00:13:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents drilled in to my head that I'm dumb when I was in school. Still trying to unlearn it

danaskye ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 03:25:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't understand why some families do this. Do you want the kid to grow up being a deadbeat not even trying anything?

[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:44:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah it doesn't make sense. In all other aspects my parents are great. I'm not sure whether they didn't want me to aim too high and have my dreams crushed but surely it's better to encourage success than protect them from failure

danaskye ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:07:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've tutored math. I always made sure the kids understood that even if they're not math people, they can still learn things if they practice what someone teaches them.

It always works. It's a beautiful thing when the child realizes that they're not as dumb as they thought.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:07:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Absolutely! Im always encouraging my neice and nephew, their faces when they solve a problem correctly is amazing

rvlt_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:45:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But failure can lead to success.

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:27:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:06:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good work! Your story sounds like mine. I too have depression and my dad did the same thing in regards to maths, i still get anxiety when I need to do maths for something, even like playing d&d. Seriously though you are a success story, I'm still working on mine but I'll get there

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:20:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:28:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm studying so I occasionally have to do maths which is helping, and congrats on nailing your times tables :)

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:21:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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ScumEater ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:19:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was "lazy" at home, and on my report cards I "didn't apply" myself. I still call myself lazy almost daily if I can't keep up with my tasks.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:36:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If I didn't clean my room to look like a showroom mum would call me disgusting. To this day I can't stand mess

AviatorMage ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 02:39:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents did the opposite. They kept going on and on about how intelligent I was and how I had "talent that god gave me" and all that bullshit. My grades suffered a shitload in high school. The thing is, I'm the most intelligent person in my family. I'm so much fucking smarter than they are, but not in ANY of the ways they tried to indoctrinate me into being.

tay246 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:39:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was always quite smart throughout school until college. My parents thought I was so smart and so was my brother. I'm convinced my brother is a genius and I'm just average. He went to college and it was too much pressure for him to continue to be really smart. I'm probably just lazy, but my college grades are pretty awful. I was an A or B student in all other schooling. My parents put too much merit on schooling and intelligence. I don't think I've actually learned anything in 3 years of college.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:30:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thankyou for sharing your story, i find it interesting how both our heads suffered for different reasons

Hope you're doing well in life now :)

theniceguytroll ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:15:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everyone is dumb

Until

They learn

To be smrt

Squidblimp ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:51:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ever1 iz dum

untill

day lern

2 b smrt

FTFY

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:16:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:48:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's frustrating, was your dad supportive at least?

Elick320 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:47:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Am I the only one who's been reading the story's in this thread and thought that they litterely drilled into his head?

barktreep ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:05:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

At least you managed to retain something

Wrathwilde ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:52:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You would have unlearned it already... if you weren't so dumb.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:56:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What do you mean?

ThatMeanyMasterMissy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:01:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They're joking.

ICanNoEnglish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:02:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

u/CheekyTrees is implied that [s]he doesn't understand, [s]he may have been joking, too.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:33:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

*she, and yes I was joking :p

ICanNoEnglish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:38:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What am I even doing? I wrote your user name so that I could avoid using a personal pronoun and did it anyway. Also, why did I not proofread my post?

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:48:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Because you can no English?

ICanNoEnglish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:52:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Possibly.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:36:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe you need to unlearn the dumb...

leaflard ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:48:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My wife got the same treatment growing up.

She's on the dean's list now at her college.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:27:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's awesome! Unfortunately due to depression and anxiety I dropped out of highschool a couple months before graduation so I have to take the longer path and obtain certifications before I can go to uni

3jt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're not dumb. You're a human being.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:41:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know, it still kills me inside when I think of what I could have achieved if I believed in myself

Thanks though :)

3jt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:15:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
afroturf1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:03:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents would have caught these hands. I love my mom, but call me any less than I am, and you will get your lips knocked smooth off.

-eDgAR- ยท 736 points ยท Posted at 00:15:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We're Mexican and so I grew up with a lot of macho mentality that guys had to be tough and couldn't show when they were sad or upset.

flexthrustmore ยท 253 points ยท Posted at 03:35:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Northern Australian here, same thing, everyone has to pretend to be a hard man growing up. I moved to Scandinavia in my early 20's and it amazed me how few fights there were around the bars on a weekend. Everybody was there to just have a good time and hopefully get laid, the group that you find in any pub in Australia who are there purely to pick a fight just don't seem to exist.

drome265 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 05:07:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I joke with my Brit friend that he's always going to start something when we go out. The first time I said this, he had plenty of stories to tell of chavs being chavs

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:29:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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daintyladyfingers ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 07:20:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A chav (ned in Scotland) is a young man, usually of low education, often wears track suits, noted for drinking and aggression.

Squidblimp ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:34:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can be women too.

daintyladyfingers ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:46:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, the female chav is also fond of tracksuits and violence. Sometimes called a chavette

Squidblimp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:26:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bonus points if she already has several kids and constantly swears

[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 10:00:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hey don't shit on track suits. They're great for either running from the police, starting fights, or needing something comfortable during a riot.

LiquidSilver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:52:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like a Chad alright.

daintyladyfingers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:02:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Women do love tracksuits.

flexthrustmore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:16:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

in Australia they're called Bogans

famousninja ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:34:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bogans are a bit different tho.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The average australian is the equivalent of a chav. Then there's the bogans. please don't glass me

daintyladyfingers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:39:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought a Bogan was a redneck?

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 11:23:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Chav is "white trash". No trailers, as the weather doesn't permit, but public housing. Everything else is the same

[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:54:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 07:11:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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BrexitMyPants ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:48:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Race in Britain isn't the same as in America.

Elements_Euw ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:59:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No its not

cooperwey ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 08:34:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm an exchange student from Melbourne living in Denmark, it's crazy how the drinking culture is so chill here, everyone just wants to have some fun

Chimpso ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:05:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Australian security guard here: pubs are the fucking worst. Even nightclub patrons have better etiquette as most of them are out there just to get laid, instead of just wanting a place to congregate and act macho every Saturday night.

FuriousKimchi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:51:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How did you move to scandinavia?

flexthrustmore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:19:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was working and travelling around the world and just ended up there, I have dual citizenship with the UK. so I have a European passport

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:57:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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flexthrustmore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:31:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My passport says EU on it, that makes it European, but you're right, maybe not for much longer. I can probably get permanent resident status in Sweden any time I want though.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:26:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Portuguese Hawaiian white boy that grew up in the sticks here, can confirm. Don't worry brothers. Our tough asses will make it through this struggle.

foxfire66 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:35:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think this is true to in many cultures. American here, I remember in middle school (age range 10-14) my friends and I would watch gore videos while demonstrating no emotion or only positive emotion (one of my friends would laugh though it was obviously forced) which goes to demonstrate how fucked up the idea that men have to be emotionless and uncaring can be.

NZ_NZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:42:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

me too when I was younger. then I realized it was only a way to keep us stupid and to easier control us.

society is shit. its fake and full of liars.

WhiggityWhack ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:15:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What a crock of shit, how often and how many pubs did you go to to establish the fact that there is always a group there just to pick a fight? I'm in my early 20s and have gone to city pubs and rural pubs all over north Queensland and I've never seen a fight at a pub.

[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 07:52:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

By "Northern Australia" he could be referring to the Northern Territory. You can't really compare QLD with the NT.

flexthrustmore ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:56:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I lived in Darwin for 5 years , Love that place but yeah, Mitchell st. Cab rank at 4am is pure chaos.

jello_drawer ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:36:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Go to a club in WA and you'll see a fight nearly every night. It may vary around the country, but Australia seems to have the worst macho young men's culture. Where else in the world is it so cool to get drunk, punch some random people on the street in the head-- maybe kill them, maybe just brain damage--and get a slap on the wrist from a judge?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:24:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Really?

flexthrustmore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:57:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

England and Scotland, Maybe South Africa.

WhiggityWhack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:55:39 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've seen a fight almost every night as well but it's almost always sparked by something like a drink being spilt or over a woman, rarely (I have seen it before) have I seen people walking around trying to just fight people for the sake of fighting. To say every pub has one group doing it just sounds like someone who has no idea how to see the difference between confrontation and looking to fight for no reason.

TheBakersPC ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:37:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can always tell which person wants to settle something though. FNQ here for reference.

flexthrustmore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:01:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, I'm not saying I get into fights, I'm saying there always seems to be someone around looking to start something. In Flinders st in Townsville in the late 80s early 90s it was ridiculous.

TheBakersPC ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:13:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I dont go out much but every time I do I can definitely see a few guys that want to start stuff on Flinders. I can never tell if they're AJ's

flexthrustmore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:54:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

which pubs are you going to?, they sound nice. I'm 41 and have almost never had a night out in Townsville, Darwin, Cairns or Surfers Paradise without seeing at least 1 punch up. Do you go home before midnight or what?

WhiggityWhack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:44:28 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

People actively looking for fights and people getting in fights are two different things.

flexthrustmore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:08 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

yes, but don't pretend you've never come across some drunken idiot on the town who has no chance of getting laid and is just looking for a punch up.

flexthrustmore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:22:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm talking about clubs more than pubs.

jakedmj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:38:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I need to move to Scandinavia

flexthrustmore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:34:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I love it there, I married a Swedish girl and bought a house over there, we try to spend 1 year out of every 4 there so the kids can keep the language skills up.

jakedmj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:52:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I would love to travel but there's no way I could manage the cost.

flexthrustmore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:27:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

neither could I at the time, I would move to a country, find any kind of job I could get ( usually hospitality or construction) then stay for 6 months and move on. I tried to do the summers in party places like the Greek Islands or Spain and the winters in rich countries to save money. between seasons I would usually have saved enough to go to Asia or Africa for a few weeks. just put enough money aside for a ticket home, a lot of hostels will let you work for room and board. figure the rest out when you get there. I doubt I would have had as much business success as I have had in my life without that experience of showing up in a foreign country not knowing the language and having to organise a job and somewhere to stay with no help from anyone. Do that successfully a few times and you start to realize that all things are possible if you just commit.

jakedmj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dude that sounds like a crazy life, have you ever thought about writing a book?

flexthrustmore ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:39:28 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

nah, it's only unusual because I'm from an English speaking background in a relatively wealthy country, there's about a million guys from Poland and Romania doing this their whole lives as a career because being a kitchen hand in Norway pays better than being an accountant in Romania.

Genocide_Bingo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:37:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The UK has a group of subhumans called "chavs" who like to fight for no reason but they don't just hang out around bars.

flexthrustmore ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:15:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

they would if they ever had any money

_sleek_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:10:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is because you're from northern Australia

Onkel_Micha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:08:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My feel for it is that the further out you are on the country side the more fights there are in the pubs.

A_Wild_Random_Guy ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 00:57:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't think that that's just a Mexican thing.

-eDgAR- ยท 141 points ยท Posted at 01:00:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're right, it's not, but it's a huge part of Mexican culture.

sfzen ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 02:10:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A lot of Hispanic cultures, actually. The societal pressure for machismo probably the most common theme in Latin American literature.

Copper_Tango ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:13:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hell, 'machismo' itself is a Spanish word.

Kitbixby ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 05:01:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

And American--we are taught that men deal with emotions by drinking bear and working on cars and banging women.

Edit: I'm leaving the typo, but I will be drinking a beer later in order to cope with this travesty.

Jesse-James- ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 05:10:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow TIL that you can drink a bear.

[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 05:18:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is so macho

Demmitri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:31:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But is that Putin macho?

SendMeWidowmakerPics ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:44:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Will it blend?

enzomedici ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

...and that answer is correct.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:21:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

These posts irk me for some reason.

It's similar, but not the same.

Demmitri ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:31:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Like a HUGE part mi querido compa.

Foxxbear ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:30:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

All cultures have it just happens that Hispanic cultures happened to give it a name.

Roku-ro ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:08:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

some cultures havr it more than others

Foxxbear ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 07:28:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How so?

Roku-ro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:42:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He literally gave an example. In some countries there is more pressure to be macho and do "manly" things, in others its perfectly normal to be a father that cooks, takes care of the children, or even is stay-at-home dad while mother works. In some countries that would be unaccaptable.

Foxxbear ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 08:42:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Except machismo isn't 100% Hispanic just because they have a word for it doesn't mean its exclusive. Even in Mexico some families don't fallow the machismo way of thinking otherwise I doubt I would see my male relative cook and clean. Para que la mujer no se le enoje.

Can you actually deny that most cultures have a variation of rising young boys to be manly and teaching them not to show feelings? Lets not forget how some parents lose it when a boy dresses up like a princess or plays with dolls, and boys don't cry bs.

Roku-ro ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:52:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But I didnt deny that in any way... I just said there is more pressure to be a macho in some countries than in the others.

Baby_Vegeta ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:57:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's a huge part of man culture, not Mexican.

OreBear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:43:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Probably not but it's pretty common in Mexican culture. When I was young whenever I cried my Mexican dad would say things like "why you crying?" And "you want me to give you a reason to cry?". Definitly had it drilled into me that showing emotion was not okay.

AverageJohanson ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Did he say it was?

A_Wild_Random_Guy ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:55:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He prefaced his statement with "we're Mexican."

Master_xk ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:20:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hell, you can be male hetero and they pressure to marry and have kids. What if I dont want to have kids? I dont want to be like my classmates being fathers since they were teens.

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:57:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This. I grew up in a hindu household. When I was moving to Canada for college, my parents didnt say that I should take care of myself or enjoy my time there. They literally said I can study and work there till 25 and then come back and get married and have kids. Who the fuck says that to a 17 year old going out of the country to study? Just cause my cousins did that, doesnt mean I need to.

Toove ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:19:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

too many unwanted children in the world. In fact too many children

Tristige ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:45:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dating a Mexican girl and can confirm the "traditional" stuff is bs sometimes.

I try to respect it and her parents but sometimes I tell her she has to actually do what she wants to do, allow herself to succeed and all that. It just seems anytime someone in her family starts to get out and succeed or get opportunity they are pulled back in by "rules" and "customs".

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:36:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit, this too. Mexicans are super family oriented, and that's great, but you're right, I see a lot of prevention of free-thinking because, es tu familia

Tristige ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:27:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yea, its basically that. I tell her she's gonna have to chose between her life and her family being "happy" cause sometimes you just can't have both :/ I've had to do the same but its more so with her.

asasdasasdPrime ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:56:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I grew up with the mentality that you kept a straight face no matter what, you don't smile unless if required.

So now my facial expressions include staring, squinting slightly, and nodding.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:58:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah I was taught that. You know when you randomly make eye contact with someone, you just keep staring or move your head down? I learned to smile after some time and it feels much better than staring and making the other person take their head down.

raouldukesaccomplice ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:15:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also, you must have a mustache and be able to drink anyone under the table.

volatile_chemicals ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:07:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This sounds like it could be Imperial era Germany, almost any era in Russia, and the entire history of the British Isles.

PM_me_ur_FavItem ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:19:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hey that's why I always wear a pink floral whenever I go to Mexican parties, cause screw everybody I like to have fun and enjoy myself

danwroy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:22:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ay don't upstage the quince

Metalan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

La va a hacer chillar.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:15:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What about Nรฉstor, the emo kid?

joe847802 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:02:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My cousin? Nah holmes, he a skater. (In all seriousness I do have a cousin named nestor who's a skater.....holmes)

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was thinking about Nรฉstor, the next door mexican kid who introduced Vince Staples to Joy Division and Violent Femmes. Is he your cousin?

joe847802 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

well uh, no, he isnt

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Joy Division -listening skater cousin = too cool to be true

It_is_timee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:44:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or that women still have to do everything for men. And that just because your brother goes out whenever he feels like it doesn't mean you can young lady. You're a girl you have to stay home. Ugh.

lycosa13 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:51:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My best friend (we're both Hispanic) says she hates when guys cry. It makes her uncomfortable. She very much buys into the macho culture. Sometimes I really wonder how we're friends...

MidnightMalaga ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:54:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hate it when anyone cries though, regardless of gender. Am I supposed to be doing something here? Do you want food? Have a cat to cuddle.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:29:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Poke them with a broom handle until they feel better.

danwroy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:24:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"How are we still friends, boo hoo hoo..."

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:23:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Zileas142 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:08:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But I really do like hot hot peppers :(

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Zileas142 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't really like to drink and whatever people like to eat isn't really my problem

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:31:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hispanic guy here. Fuck these old ass men. Shit annoys me to no end.
No, I don't give a shit if you don't like something I like enough, and your suggestion to make it "better" and "more appropriate" is shit.

I get a lot of unecesscary flak and back-handed, disappointed comments from my dad. How about you chill out, shut the fuck up about what you think isn't good for me, and instead be supportive, veijito?

Alex_Is_A_Fae ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:35:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

El machismo mata. I'm happy you're forgetting that.

Hiding-As-Vanilla ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:24:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As the son of a man who is full-blooded Mex, I can attest to this. His mom was from the motherland, his dad was the son of immigrants. Both grandparents had a hardline, man-is-a-man/woman-is-a-woman mentalities. A man works hard, all day, doing "honest" work with his back and hands. He should always be sore/tired/sweaty and anything less is a failure to live up to expectations. Women were homebodies and did domestic duties. Neither was allowed to falter. Crying children simply hadn't learned to man-up yet.

My dad got out of it by marrying a woman who would, eventually, become a psychologist. IT was hard for him. Heard a lot of late-night fights along the lines of,"Take your boogy-boogy head shit and stuff it." He was always trying to reconcile his position as an executive vs not going into to a standard 8-hour shift job doing physical work.

On top of that, since he grew up in a rough section of Chicago in the 40s/50s, he tried to instill in us a deep-seated hatred for both the Irish and Italians.

Lots of unlearning to be done.

earthlings_all ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:48:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I fucking hate this. Extended family tried puling this shit with my boys from like 2 years old. Told them to fuck off and that my boys can cry whenever they need to, it will not make them weak. They are human and need to express emotion. An uncle grew up being called a 'crybaby' because he was a sensitive child and now he has trouble expressing emotion. Yeah... fuck that.

Holyzebra ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:06:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hope you aren't sad or upset. If you are talk to someone, if you aren't keep it up.

Holigram ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:08:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hyper masculinity is common in all cultures, I think it's more associated with blue collar work than race. My family is the same way and we're all Irish. They all think they're super tough "men of the house" and hate gays

pug_fugly_moe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:50:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's a big reason why my dad moved to the US. He saw through the macho bullshit and didn't want us to grow up in that. I'm not macho, but I am way more self-sufficient than most of my cousins and uncles because I don't need a wife to do simple daily tasks. Plus, there's a zen relaxation in making tortillas. Also, one of my cousins looks horrible in his wedding photos. It's like he's bothered to be there. It's sad. It's not even a neutral expression, either. He's looks checked out, dead while his bride is gleaming. Dude, be happy for her if not for yourself.

HaIloweenTown ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:26:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Men fit the role of being strong for the family better than women do. That's not to say single mothers and other women alike don't do a good job

SaitamaDesu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:18:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

From New England, I can relate.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:34:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that's not really just a Mexican thing though.

Teaboo_mom ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 04:38:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nobody, man or woman, should show when they're sad or upset.

mrigiveup ยท 704 points ยท Posted at 23:11:04 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That everyone in the world is an asshole and will treat me like shit

GoodShitLollypop ยท 443 points ยท Posted at 01:10:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh jesus christ. Who gave this cunt the right to post here?

greywar777 ยท 89 points ยท Posted at 02:06:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm torn...upvote cause its funny....downvote cause its not. Cause its both....

heronumberwon ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:44:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When presented with such difficult choices I always mastrubate with dragon dildo up my ass so I can think clearly

TiGeeeRRR ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:44:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or you could wait until you're sleeping and just use your fingers and hair gel.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:34:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

wtf happened here

Vegan_Thenn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:23:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

His reference game is on point.

TiGeeeRRR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Another guy did a tifu that was hilarious.

Caevus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:37:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Schrรถdinger's Post. It is in a quantum superposition of being both funny and unfunny simultaneously.

SennenHyoro ยท -23 points ยท Posted at 02:54:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You could upvote then downvote.

[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 03:52:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Like this?

SennenHyoro ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 04:27:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well played, sir. Well played.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:26 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It worked!

MyIQis76 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:11:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We told him not to play himself.

He didn't listen.

He played himself.

justinjustin7 ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 04:56:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think you dropped this

/s

jojokelly910 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:05:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You only say that if they're getting downvoted to shit, everyone knew he was being sarcastic

justinjustin7 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ah, my bad. I just thought because of the general subject matter that has appeared in this thread that it might be a good idea to make it clear to all who see it. ยฏ\(ใƒ„)/ยฏ

SailedBasilisk ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 04:16:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not everyone will treat you like shit. Some people will want something from you.

3jt ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:09:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everyone in the world has an asshole and under the right circumstances will treat me like shit.

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ theonecalledzach ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 01:47:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Negative world views are okay. Forcing negative world views on your children, and making them cynical and socially stunted isn't, at all.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:28:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's survival skills though. It will help you prevent from being a victim of fraud, crime and keeping bad friends.

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:36:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It also helps alienate them from everyone except their family so they can be manipulated and controlled, unable to function in normal society and forced to rely on their abusive family.

It's mostly a bad thing, especially the bad friends who are frauding you are your family. Not everyone is an asshole, teaching this to a person is screwed up.

PM_Me_Whatever_lol ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 04:40:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Negative world views are okay.

'okay' in what way?

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:56:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

not all cynics are hitler, jerry

HiMyNameIs_REDACTED_ ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:34:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

not all jerrys are hitler, cynic

GameOnDevin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:08:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not all Hitlers are cynics, Jerry.

Technofreak301 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:42:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not all Jerrys are cynics, Hitler.

NAmember81 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:07:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pessimists are merely experienced optimists.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:29:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist.

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ theonecalledzach ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:10:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you, in your own time, want to hate everything and think the world is shit, fine by me, but don't let it affect anyone else, basically

kitcatkid ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:41:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

THIS! My dad STILL repeats this one. He's not a bad guy, just a pessimist. He finds the fault in the world with everything! Example: "I'm so excited to be going to a convention in Los Angeles!" Dad, "A convention? Watch out, there are always pickpockets in crowds. And did you hear about the latest mass shooting on the news? With a crowded convention who knows what will happen. And the hotels nowdays are so expensive, what a rip off! How much is the convention setting you back anyways?" Even something as simple as me making a delicious diabetic friendly dessert. Instead of dad saying it's awesome, he says, "I'm going to get fat eating this. Simple is better, we don't need dessert."

bschug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:48:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ha, that sounds like my mom. Took me a long time to snap out of that. Now I try to see those fears as encouragement and to trust everyone until they give me a reason not to.

MetaKoopa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:04:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I learned this from experience.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:00:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thats mostly true though.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:10:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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TheTommoh ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe it's a self fulfilling prophecy.

spiritbx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:50:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck you!

If it pleases you.

#mindfucked

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:17:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is true though. The humans species has proven time and time again through war and oppression that all we're good at is killing each other and taking advantage of each other.

And whenever they will treat you nicely there is always an ulterior motive and they want something from you.

KJ6BWB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Alex_From_LMB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:57:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad acts as though everyone alive is awful, can't be trusted, and has bad intentions even if it doesn't benefit them in any way.

Cheese_Coder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Kinda the same here. My dad told me repeatedly that nobody ever has your best interest at heart

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:21:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is true though. People are only in it for themselves. And if they treat you nicely, it's because they want something from you or that you're simply a means to an end.

LedinToke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:19:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

to be fair that is how the internet generally works, so it wasn't completely worthless advice cunt

Severinx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eh, sometimes that's true though. Certain areas are harsh. The city I grew up in was like that. Then I moved out into a country town. Nicest people ever.

obamasrapedungeon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus, shut the fuck up already! Are you just going to cry all day like a bitch tit lawn chair?

whynotbrydee ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 06:53:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that any cooked green vegetable had to be soft and mushy. Oh the joy of LIGHTLY steaming my greens...

Icanjam ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:58:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I love soft broccoli though!!!

phillyweis88 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:02:35 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I do too sometimes and soft carrots sometimes....

pieandlatteslover ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:38:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Unfortunately I cannot up vote this more than once! It needs crunch and FLAVOUR!

Jeditard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:46:25 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Am I the only one who had a parent do this and actually likes mushy veggies as a result? Thanks for the tip though, I will make sure to give my kid crisper vegetables first and see which he prefers.

Rotom-W ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:44:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Crunch veggies are the best ahh

phillyweis88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is SO big. I don't know why but the generations before us all cooked veggies to mush. Ew. Why?! It's so ridiculous and I'm with you, I love to be able to just cook them lightly and every crunchy nutritious bite is like a little "screw you silly little old ppl" victory anthem.

Oodora ยท 947 points ยท Posted at 01:01:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Old fashioned southern racism. When I was old enough to really think about it I knew it was wrong. Couldn't say anything against it because I would have been ostracized and heaven forbid if I had dated a black woman, I would have been disowned by my entire family.

wewanttoshareyou ยท 214 points ยท Posted at 03:43:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same boat man. It's a hard habit to break. I'll be forever mad that I was raised in a racist home

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:11:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't be mad about it, you can't change it, and you had no control in the first place. Just do better yourself, that's enough.

prizzinguard ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 04:55:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

All things considered, I am very pleasantly surprised that I had to scroll down this far to find "racism."

danhib ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 07:23:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's just those who had to 'unlearn'.

TheApexRedditor ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 08:24:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This. I'm kind of proud of OP for being so honest etc., but simultaneously kind of disgusted that it's it doesn't mean enough to most people to appear in this thread.

hitops1 ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 14:28:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or maybe racism is not nearly as common as we are constantly told it is by media who make more money by telling telling us stories about racism.

ButtSexington3rd ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:08:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It is that common. The problem is that most people are fine with it.

beepbeepimajeep_ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:32:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When one of our presidential candidates is a hate spewing xenophobe, it tells us racism is very prevalent.

hitops1 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:42:59 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And he even got elected. But maybe come November the next guy/lady will be better.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:21:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bullshit. Racism is just as common as it has ever been.

hitops1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:41:52 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Objectively untrue, as many surveys shown. And we all know our generation is less so than previous. If you are claiming racism is as bad as 'ever', ie when people literally owned other people, you're not really having a serious discussion right?

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:46:34 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It is nowhere near as overt as it was when slavery was still a thing in the US, but it is still strong and widespread

hitops1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:44:13 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Depends on what you mean by strong. It is both less overt and less present, over time, according to the best evidence we have. Decades of surveys show that people hold less racist attitudes than before. What has increased is people opinions about racist others are.

In other words, people's actual beliefs are less racist today, however people also believe that other people are more racist. The occams razor explanation is that media basically feeds a story that people are horrendously racist all over the place, and we believe it. It's kind of fun to believe it, because we love a good victim/villain story.

By the way they don't ask people 'are you racist'? They ask for example things like 'should black and white children attend separate schools'? You'd think by reading here or watching the news that half the country thinks they should. In reality, in the GSS (performed for many years), only 15% of white said yes.........in 1972. By 1985 so few people said yes, that they dropped the question.

TheApexRedditor ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:32:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This point is provocative at best, and ignorant at worst.

_The_Real_Guy_ ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 05:12:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Generally I thought that my family wasn't racist or homophobic (though I doubted the latter). One day I was standing in the kitchen and one of my uncles mentioned that some relative was getting remarried. Someone asked if she was black and was told no. General sighs and muttering of "that's good" from my two uncles and my grandfather.

bayouekko ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:59:14 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

My grandparents are 88/90 and were married 72 years ago. We live in the deep South. It's a common thing and wasn't out of the ordinary when I was growing up to hear the N word on a regular basis. My grandparents never meant harm, it was just the way life was for them growing up in Dry Prong, Louisiana. They never believed in mixing race, though. When my aunt (their oldest child) came home with her new beau (who became her (now late) husband of almost 50 years) and he was Cherokee Indian, they internally had a heart attack. They got to know him, loved him and was thrilled when he asked them for their daughter's hand. They still miss him (we all do), and referred to him as simply their "son". That made it even easier for them to accept my SO (he's mixed). My grandparents are wonderful, uncle Johnny and my pawpaw were/are my heart since my dad is shit. My dad on the other hand is not on board....but then, he's a miserable prick who is racist to most other humans, treats everyone like shit.

askmeaboutmypinus ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 03:56:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a southerner that has transplanted to the PNW, it's crazy how racist my home town is. I go back and just cringe. I don't know how I lived there for 21 years. Also, because of this I actually find Go Set a Watchman to be very accurate.

lucid-dream ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 12:56:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Relatable. Moved from rural shit town, GA to London. I was amazed by the lack of (at least visible) racism for months. My friends here barely believe me when I talk about racism in my hometown. It's weird to see their eyes grow large and jaws drop when they eventually Google it.

I'm moving to the PNW in January. My one hang up with it has been how white the PNW is. My hometown is majority black and London is obviously crazy multicultural. How are you finding it?

askmeaboutmypinus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's still culturally diverse here. It's just different. I love it. Here it does seem more "white" but it's more like everyone doesn't care about the color of your skin. My hometown was mostly white, and that was just because it was racist. It's just different here. Hard to explain.

pug_fugly_moe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:59:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not trying to steal the thunder here, but you just don't see many black people in PDX. Basically, replace Asian-descents with blacks and you have the PNW. It's not bad, just different. Haven't witnessed overt racism though.
Source: Live in Atlanta; wonder where the blacks are and get shocked by the number of Asian-Americans when I go to anywhere in Pacific time.

askmeaboutmypinus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:00 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No that's completely accurate!!

FuckKarmaAndFuckYou ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:10:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How is the book? I heard it was a letdown.

askmeaboutmypinus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:41:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The major problem people have with it is how Atticus is portrayed. But in my opinion, that's exactly how growing up in a southern state (I'm from La) leaving, and coming back is. You don't see the racism til you leave, then when you come back to visit, you see how truely racist your heros (parents, relatives whomever) are. I liked it.

hitops1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:31:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The weird thing about the PNW as well as New England, is that they are the whitest places in the US. My experience is that people who most advocate for minorities trend to not live around many.

[deleted] ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 04:50:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That hits home. I'm getting married in two weeks. My fiancee will never be allowed at my grandparent's house.

NivlacSupreme ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:50:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

well that sucks.

jello1990 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 13:06:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"The good news is, grandma will be there. The bad news is, she'll be outside protesting."

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:20:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I dated a black girl once and didn't DARE tell my grandmother. She burst into tears one time when she asked me if I would ever marry one when I was 5.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:41:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Millennials and younger don't differentiate on race nearly as much as prior generations do. Baby boomers were brought up in a time where it was the norm.

Grandpa isn't ever going to understand my decision, and that's ok.

cqm ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 11:56:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Palestinian?

FiddlyDiddlyDoo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:03:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Probably any race except caucasian...

TaylorS1986 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 04:27:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How old are you? Maybe it's because I'm a damnyankee who grew up near a reservation where interracial marriages were common, but the idea there there are still parts of the US where interracial marriage is taboo blows my mind.

KwyjiboGhoul ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 04:53:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

It still is common. I'm 23, grew up in rural Texas. My best friend was kicked out of her house at 17 when her family found out she was dating a Hispanic guy. She had kept it a secret because she knew they would. My parents took her in until she could go to college (9 months) but even they didn't approve. Her parents cut off all contact until she broke up with him (which she eventually did but only when she moved away) and used to send me angry text messages about "enabling" her misbehavior.

When I went to college, one of the guys on my floor was a gay guy in an interracial relationship, and I found out his parents were totally okay with that, he explained it with an almost "well why wouldn't they be" attitude. That's when I kind of realized that the USA is really like several different countries with totally different cultures, worlds apart.

[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 06:53:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty much true for any country. It's the same here in Germany, and I suspect it has always been this way with different strata of society having mostly fundamentally different views on morality and ethics.

[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 07:50:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท -27 points ยท Posted at 12:42:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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TaylorS1986 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:55:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck off back to Stormfront you vile POS.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:43:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No thanks, Stormfront is both anti-intellectual and white trash. Do you repudiate the overflowing scientific and empirical evidence? Then perhaps, it's you who are better suited at Stormfront :)

ManaMoogle ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 05:29:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

My friend's mom is from Greensboro, North Carolina (hotbed of the KKK) and she and her friends are still incredibly racist. They're classic southern white women in their 50s, always sipping sweet tea. She calls her son (my friend) "niglet" when he's being a smartass or something, and told me to "bring a knife; that's where all them bouffers* live" when we were going to visit the Bronx Zoo in NY. I've also heard her wish assassination multiple times on President Obama. If he started dating a black girl, I'm fairly certain she would stop talking to him and get her church group to pray for him constantly until they broke up. It's sad but still very much alive in the south.

*Edit: boofer

TaylorS1986 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:41:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus Christ... O_O

deyesed ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 07:09:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, it does sound like she needs Jesus.

Oh wait...

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:45:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

TIL bouffers is a thing, a thing that is hate speech.

lucid-dream ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:59:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So like, where did you find info on that? My Googling yielded little, except that bouffer means eat in French. So I guess I'm glad I know another word for eat besides manger.

But really though...? What is it?

ManaMoogle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:57:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My bad, apparently it's spelled "boofer". Just another racist term for black people, originated in the army in the 70s.

Tuna_Sushi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:50:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

bouffers

I do not know this word.

[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 07:36:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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TaylorS1986 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:00:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

:-(

Oodora ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am 41

TaylorS1986 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 04:44:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ah, that explains a lot!

ellen_pao ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 12:41:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow ... you dont live in the USA or maybe only watch FOX NEWS

TaylorS1986 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:59:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

[looks at username]

sorry, not gonna fall for the troll attempt. I'm a Leftist and radical anti-capitalist and I certainly don't watch Fox News.

latent-lurker ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:55:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Did you end up saying anything? I'm rather young and have grown confrontational with mixed results. I think it's all about approach, but that's tough as hell to figure out. I'd love to hear you experience.

throwawayblue69 ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 04:50:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not OP but in the same situation. People don't take well to being called racist, even if you say it in the most tactful way. My grandma responded by blaming my way of thinking on "liberal college professors who shove racism down our throats" or something to that extent. She made excuses about the way she talked about minorities and basically tried to justify her racism any way she could while at the same time saying that I was over exaggerating the things that she said and did to make them seem way worse than they actually were. For example, she defends her idea that interracial marriages are unnatural by saying that animals in the wild wouldn't mate with other types of animals. I tried to explain the numerous flaws in her line of thinking, but she actually thinks the bible itself supports her argument. There was just nothing I could say that would change her mind. The only thing I accomplished with this discussion was making my grandma very upset with me for quite some time. Trust me when I say that this argument isn't worth having. You can't MAKE people see that the things they say/do are racist. They have to want to improve themselves and admit to themselves that they have a problem first. Just like with any other problem. Unless you're willing to create a rift between yourself and your family, I recommend leaving this topic alone.

[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 06:48:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bad advice. You need to get them a friend of another color that they have to spend time with first. Also if she's using the bible for hate speech, ask her for chapter and verse. Then ask if Jesus would condone her actions after reminding her about the golden rule. (People using the bible to hate pisses me right the fuck off)

throwawayblue69 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:35:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She is almost 80 years old, she's not making new friends and I can't help with that haha. She uses things out of context and no specific verse just ideas and stretches them to mean what she wants and you can't convince her she's wrong. Yes she thinks Jesus would approve of her actions because she sees nothing wrong with them. That's kind of the point.

tacknosaddle ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 12:26:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's a pretty safe assumption that whatever her background is was a thing that was shit on by other people. You should take whatever that thing is and start disparaging her whenever she talks like that. A taste of her own medicine might help.

For example, let's say she's Catholic, that was something that was seriously looked down upon by the Protestant population, especially when they began to immigrate here in large numbers. Every time your grandmother says something like that just reply with, "Well, of course that's what a simpleton papist would think." or ask her if that's what the pope has told her to say/think.

If she tries to crack on you for having the same background you just reply with, "I wasn't given a choice in where I came from but I do have a choice in how I act towards other people."

throwawayblue69 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:59:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A) she's still my grandmother and I'm not talking to her like that. She may be wrong but I'm not going to disrespect her outright like that.

B) She's Southern Baptist because of course she is.

tacknosaddle ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 13:16:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So she can disrespect huge swaths of society but heaven forbid if she gets a taste of that herself?

throwawayblue69 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:42:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We've argued about the things she says and the beliefs she has and she hasn't changed. Disrespecting her won't change anything either, it'll just make me an asshole that stooped to her level.

Toove ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:12:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But you can make the point tacknopaddle makes to her, but without disrespecting her, simply stating that so-and-so used to think like that about her group of people. My grandmother became an atheist when she was 85. From reading the holy book. She said "I find it more and more stupid all that with God and so on"

TheReason857 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:08:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I just would insert there race into my comments and say awful ra is things about their race to them, and then use their lame ass excuses to justify it.

throwawayblue69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:39:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A) That doesn't make a convincing argument B) I'm not sure she would even get the point

kevronwithTechron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:55:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know about that. People who I've encountered who openly use the N word are just opened and honest about it. Occasionally people will be like "aw fuck" and be bashful but that's not the common case.

throwawayblue69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:38:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She doesn't use the N word in public because she knows that's a public faux pas but she says it in private because that's how she feels deep down. She thinks she should be allowed to say it whenever but knows better than to so so in public because other people will not tolerate it.

hitops1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:38:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Equally, it is possible for a human to have independent objective thinking about different races without being a racist. Ex. Because you are aware of FBI statistics on different races via a vis crime, does not mean you assume lower value for others based on their race.

It's incredibly frustrating to be called racist just because you can acknowledge differences in different groups. Sometimes racism is just an accusation yielded to avoid critical thinking.

[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 04:01:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Slowly it will die out. Slowly.

JinxsLover ยท 75 points ยท Posted at 04:48:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't think that is true, I believed this before Trump but people at my work don't even try to hide how racist they are anymore anytime we see a black customer I think "oh here we go" and into the welfare and "anti PC" racist conversations we go.

LesseFrost ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 04:51:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Normally, I'd just recommend the people who are openly racist to join the National Aryan Brotherhood. No one knows what the fuck that is here, so they look it up and then promptly shut the fuck up.

JinxsLover ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 04:52:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I just hate it cause it's like your at a fucking business and on company time I don't want to hear your racist shit just keep it to yourself.

[deleted] ยท -34 points ยท Posted at 05:30:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sorry, but there is freedom of speech. I do not agree with racism, but god knows I will fight to the death for their right to express it.

[deleted] ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 05:39:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Glossing over the fact that freedom of speech refers to the inability of government to punish people for what they say (tl;dr of course) -- I'll bite: they have the right to say what they want. And others have the right to believe that saying racist shit, especially at work, is despicable and unprofessional behavior.

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:54:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Agreed. If this is in a working situation, the government can't punish you for what you say- but the company can and should.

ThatEdward ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:02:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This so much. Too many do not know the First Amendment and what it means for them. I feel weird when I have to correct them since I'm not even American.

de_hatron ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:27:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You should actually read Voltaire, rather than miss-attributed quotes.

[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know that was a Voltaire quote, and I used it in context, editing it a bit to fit it better. And why the hell am I being down voted? I expressed a opinion regarding freedom of speech, I did not advocate any side. Unless this sub is made up fascists, Why am I being down voted?

de_hatron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:18:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Because that isn't a Voltaire quote. And your post betrays you lack of understanding for nuance. This reply confirms it.

funobtainium ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:07:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Verbalizing racist thoughts at work contributes to a hostile working environment.

You know who actually would fight to defend Constitutional rights? The military, where you will be kicked out for being a racist ass.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:52:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I agree. In a work environment this is unacceptable, and you should be fired at the managers (Or company owner's) will.

JinxsLover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:23 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I disagree you have freedom of speech from the government and at home you can say whatever you want or write it online, but when you are representing a company you also have your companies image to think about look at the LA clippers owner for a recent example. People think freedom of speech thinks they can say whatever wherever they want but that has never been true (ex fire in a movie theater)

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:28:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That reminds me of this guy I work with. He told me that they should profile people looking to buy a gun. His idea was that if you look like a foreigner you can't buy a gun, but if you have blond hair and blue eyes then you should be able to buy a gun without any questions. Took me way too long to realize he was being completely serious.

14sierra ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:23:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

People forget that racism has only been slowly dying out because education has been effectively combating ignorant (and scientifically erroneous) ideas. But ignorance is like a cancer and if it isn't continually treated it will return.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:45:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Only if the entire human race dies

TaylorS1986 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:59:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I used to believe that, then all the closeted racists came out after Obama was elected and now they made a talking yam the Republican presidential candidate.

Look at all the disgusting racism here on Reddit, a site dominated by people younger than 30, on many of the default subs

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:41:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

User name does NOT check out.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:49:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shhhhhhhhhhhhh

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:43:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hope you can find some way to change their minds. Maybe slowly but surely trying to get them to adjust to the fact that all races are equal. Easier said than done, I know. If there really is no helping them, at least you know it is wrong and don't let them hold you back.

autumnklnss ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:21:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is my life.

[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 03:36:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dude, fuck it. I'd date a black chick just to spite them.

SparklyDarkUnicorn ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 05:43:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pls don't, we don't like being put through that stress.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:47:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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SparklyDarkUnicorn ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:50:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Daily double sound

um... none? Yes, I'll take what is "none" for $1000

TheHapster ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:03:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's not how jeopardy works.

SparklyDarkUnicorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:52:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

you're right, i'm sorry :<

kevronwithTechron ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:53:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah thats the stupid empty threat shit people say when they are talking big without having to back it up. The fact that it is using another human being entirely for your own end be damned!

PM_ME_THEM_B00BIES ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:02:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dude, you took that way too seriously.

radome9 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:01:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eh, as long as you're both honest.
"Hey, I think you're hot and you'll piss of my racist parents. Wanna hang out? "

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:58:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shut up loser

JinxsLover ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:47:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think this is pretty said in general, there are millions of girls(or guys) just written off your potential list because there are a hell of a lot of families just like yours.

Kepui ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Came to say the same thing. Born and raised in the South as well and had/have numerous family members that were horrible racists. Oddly enough I ended up going to a high school where I was a minority; the school hovered around 55-60% Hispanic. Between that and 4 years at university, which is usually a more liberal environment, I learned it was useless hatred without any basis. Some of my family at my behest, my mother notably, have also become a lot more tolerant. The rest of my family that haven't changed I just don't talk to anymore.

TehKatieMonster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:26:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dads family is northern, when he met my mom in Germany he called my grandma and told her he was gonna marry a beautiful black woman, just to fuck with her. My mom is white. XD now I realize it's kinda horrible but my grandma grew up in the 50s soooooo.....

Messysoup0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Try being a black woman dating a white guy. My parents literally told me I can do whatever I want just don't bring a white guy to the house.

PetraLoseIt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:15:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Their loss...

pumpkinbot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family has some Southern roots, and a few...outdated looks on the world, but I should be really thankful none of them are racist bigots.

One of my cousins is black, and everyone in my family loves her to bits. During our last Obligatory Family Reunion Camping/Old Folks Sitting Around a Campfire Extravaganza(TM), one of my more distant relatives came by. He's That Guy in our family. Nobody likes him for many, many reasons. I wasn't there for this, but he apparently spouted some racist bullshit at my cousin, and damn near got his ass kicked for saying it. He left the next day.

My family's far from perfect, but god damn, I'm proud of them for that.

TechnoEquinox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:31:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Actually, I feel ya, even growing up in Colorado. My family is nothing but racist Native Americans, and having dated an African American, I was quickly pulled to the side and asked "just how much do I want to get my ass kicked".

Yeah, haven't talked to them much.

Jonathan_the_Nerd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:44:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents taught me that everyone is equal regardless of skin color. But they also taught me that interracial dating/marriage is immoral.

Fluffboyjr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:57:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have a bit of a struggle with my perception of people at times. I wouldn't consider myself racist but I've lived in a community with about 90% white people so seeing a black person or even a person of different nationality makes me very conscious of my actions and how I come across to that person 'cause I don't want them thinking I'm racist even when I have nothing against them, it's just a social anxiety that I'm slowly getting over. Staying quiet makes me anxious and worry that they might think I'm racists or something it's entirely irrational. Baby steps tho

A_Prostitute ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:43:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad is pissed that my girlfriend is black. It is simply hilarious

Bmoresmalls14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:49:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And the worst part is, as much as I would love to break that cycle and bring home a boyfriend from a different race, I also don't want to put someone I care about into a situation that will be painful for him. I don't want to bring someone into that mess.

Scummycrummyday ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:03:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm honestly surprised this is so far down.

WhatTheFawkesSay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:12:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't know they were called Brazil Nuts until I was in my mid-twenties

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:27:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yup, same here. My family was hardcore right wing and all the time talked about how minorities were lazy and ruining the country. I had some pretty racist ideas for a lot of my younger life because of it and it wasn't until I got out from under that influence and started meeting people and seeing that other races were working and struggling just as hard as I was that I changed those beliefs.

The thing that worries me the most now is I have a baby and I know the day is going to come when I'm going to have to have a conversation with my parents about what is acceptable to say around my child when I'm not around if they want to be part of his life.

PM_ME_FOR_SMALLTALK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:32:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here, and it wasn't until i was around 13 or 14 I stopped using the N word and stopped calling blacks/non whites the N word, because it just felt wrong.

In the words of my dad. "You got two types of people. Whites and Niggers. Mexican Niggers, Asian Niggers, they're all Niggers."

When you teach a kid stuff like that, it messes them up for a bit. Im glad now that I can see past his bullshit.

cherrypieandcoffee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sucks you experienced that growing up, but at least you're walking evidence that that kind of hatred doesn't have to be passed on.

scribblerscrabbler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:19 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was told this exact thing by my grandparents. They wouldn't give a cup of water to a black woman broken down on the side of the road on a hot, cloudless day.

Rakonas ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:32:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same, except in New York City.

JinxsLover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:49:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is odd, That city is pretty diverse they need to get with the fucking times.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:10:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racists are everywhere. Far from just a southern thing.

JinxsLover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:39 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Of course but there is a lot of proof you are less likely to be racist if you live in more diverse places because your narrow world views are challenged on a more frequent basis.

chainedsoulz10 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:19:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I live in a very diverse city, racism comes subtly from all races here. Like the Asians keep to them selves, whites live in the suburbs (mainly), blacks live in the bad areas, Spanish basically live on one side of the city. Kinda weird but just is. I mean it's mixed but this is the average around here. Kinda hard to explain.

Roarkindrake ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:31:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeap this. I'm not as bad as majority I f my family but dam it's a bitch to unlearn. Hell even have a cousin that isn't liked by half my family for dating a black guy.

phillyweis88 ยท 1280 points ยท Posted at 01:21:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Stranger Danger. Most victims of abuse, murder kidnapping, rape, and molestation etc. are preyed on by those closest to them. Teaching us to be afraid of anyone we don't know actually harms our social skills and ability to reach out for help when we need it, etc. it keeps us in a fearful shell of sorts.

McDouggal ยท 329 points ยท Posted at 02:51:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I avoid this by making sure that I don't get close to anyone.

But seriously, I'm pretty fucked in the head when it comes to even just friend relationships. Don't be me.

phillyweis88 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 03:33:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm starting to get there myself. At 28 it's getting bleaker by the month

therudolph ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:43:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

At 19 it's bleaker by the day.

phillyweis88 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:50:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I literally wish I could do anything to be 19 again.

[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 06:23:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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MagFrag5891 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:58:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One of them could be a spy.

JackTheBrown ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 06:54:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm starting to wonder how common a thing this is because I feel the same way and I always see comments agreeing with this. I always just told myself I'm an introvert and I simply don't like having close friends or being in romantic relationships, but I wonder if it's just a psychological fault. I've been battling with myself for so long whether it's just "who I am", depression, paranoia, or something I don't even know of.

wENTtobuyweed ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:33:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What do you mean? I have problems that sound similar. I think my friends don't like. My mind is so fucked up, sometimes I think even my dog doesn't like me.

phillyweis88 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:33:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haha I feel you down times I think it's slight paranoia and sometimes I truly feel like the entire world is getting colder and more hostile at an exponential rate, animals and humans.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:29:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Feel ya bro. For me it's so bad by now that I don't even like to hug my parents, with whom I always had a good relation

PM-ME-YOUR-SUBARU ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:11:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Me too thanks :(

narudeus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:20:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am moving for university next month and I am like you.I don't know what I will do.My family is like : you''ll get sooo social and get new friends but be prepared.be reserved!!

McDouggal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:07:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Talk to your dorm supervisor or the student orientation guide and ask where people get together to do stuff you like. Something I've learned is that it's easier to meet people when you're there for something else.

D&D is great for this, actually, since your encouraged to stay in character most of the time. Mistakes are encouraged.

And remember the motto of Dwarf Fortress: Losing is fun. Just because you fail once or twice doesn't make you a failure. Keep trying.

(I know this all sounds like trite advice, but it's all stuff that I did, and it helped me greatly.)

narudeus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:02:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I actually know about the first one a little bit so it won't be that hard i think.But my personality rarely changed and since I am more of ''naive nice person who does a lot of things to people'' it will be so hard.Thanks for the advice tho x)

SpecificEnough ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 04:55:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My sister calls them "tricky people" to her kids. Prepares them ahead of time that some people aren't always good, but to check with their parents.

capitaine_d ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 05:01:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah i lucked out amazingly with my parents. Just reading all of these im just extremely thankful.

My parents always said to "expect the worst and hope for the best" with meeting new people and just life in general. My dad and i both try to live by my grandpas philosophy of "Strangers are just friends you haven't met yet". That statement is so true since everyone youve ever met was a stranger at one time.

GhostBond ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 05:24:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, someone really did an impressive job realizing they could get parents to train their kids to not doing anything without an authority figures permission by playing up the child predator / child kidnapping angle.

Now our schools are mini prisons with guards etc, and parents turn around and ponder why their kids are never comfortable going anywhere alone of making a decision by themselves - as if they have no idea of the cause and effect here.

According to this blog (which links to more official sources on statistics):
http://www.snipeme.com/archive.php?year=2004&rant=strangers

According to another study done by the U.S. Dept. of Justice, of the roughly 69,000 kidnappings that occurred in 1999 only 115 of them were abductions by strangers.

According to the National Center for Health Statistics, in the year 2000, the following occurred:
- 255 children died of the flu or pnuemonia
- 452 children died from heart disease
- 1,921 children committed suicide
- 11,560 children died from accidental injuries

So, what does all that mean in relation to the topic at hand? Lemme break it down for you, dumbass. When compared to the actual statistics for stranger abductions, a little simple math shows us....
- Children are twice as likely to die of the flu than be kidnapped by a stranger
- Children are 4 times more likely to die of heart disease than be kidnapped by a stranger
- Children are 17 times more likely to commit suicide than be kidnapped by a stranger
- Children are 100 times more likely to die because of an accidental death than be kidnapped by a stranger

kangareagle ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 05:43:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Of course it's true, but you really need to look at the stats for earlier times. Otherwise, the response could be that there are so few stranger problems because people are more protective against strangers.

GhostBond ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:59:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I couldn't find reliable stats for earlier times. Can you?

The only stats I know of are ancedotal - like that my dad walked several miles to school as a kid, it was no big deal, and he never heard of kids getting kidnapped when he grew up.

I grew up with "stranger danger" being pushed constantly, and even as a kid I always felt there was something to it that had nothing to do with actual kidnappings.

kangareagle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:15:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't have any stats at all.

phillyweis88 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:35:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow spot on. This is an a+ report and I'd say you hit the nail on the head.

Built-In ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 08:58:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Stranger danger was huge when I was growing up in the 80s. The movement now is to warn kids about "tricky people" or something along those lines.

Teaching caution is never a bad thing, and extrapolating that to familiar people is good because (as you said) a lot of abuse happens close to home.

Kids should be taught body autonomy, good touch and bad touch (doctors versus sexual abuse), consent (theirs and others), and that they don't need to keep secrets (that parents won't be mad if the child needs to tell them something "bad").

MemeLearning ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 06:00:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Most victims of abuse, murder kidnapping, rape, and molestation etc. are preyed on by those closest to them.

Maybe that's because we we're taught to avoid strangers which skewed the statistics because it worked.

phillyweis88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:42:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wormhole.. Lol

unseen-streams ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:48:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Trying to help my parents unlearn this one right now. They didn't let me out of the backyard without supervision til I went to college.

Okuhou ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:19:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am trying to figure out the best way to approach this with my child. So far we have a password so if anyone, including people he knows come up and say I said he is supposed to go with him he asks a secret question and they have to have the answer. I don't want him to fear strangers but at the same time I don't want him to just talk freely with random people that could be harmful. It's a balancing act.

earthlings_all ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:05:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

See my earlier comment. We teach them about tricksters.

throway65486 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:58:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

wtf passwords? Just teach him to not blindly trust a stranger and for example don't go with them but that it is ok to talk to them.

Okuhou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:02:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah. See I would except he is 4 and he understands processes like using a password better than me just telling him "don't go with people". He would maybe hold out a minute but adults know best so he will go. When he is a bit older be won't need it.

kangareagle ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 05:41:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just because most molestation happens from people closer to you doesn't mean that a child shouldn't be wary of strangers. But wary doesn't mean terrified.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:06:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sure, but the point is you should be more wary of acquaintances than strangers. Still be a little wary of strangers, but put most of your concern into the people who have access to you.

kangareagle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I disagree.

Parents need to be wary of situations where a kid might be alone with the violin instructor (or whatever), but kids shouldn't be more wary of friends and family than of strangers.

It wouldn't be helpful at all to tell kids to not trust their uncle. It's helpful to teach them about their bodies and their right to say no, and to tell others if something doesn't feel right.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:43:05 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

kids shouldn't be more wary of friends and family than of strangers. It wouldn't be helpful at all to tell kids to not trust their uncle.

But if their uncle is more likely to hurt them than a stranger, why would you tell them to be wary of strangers but not their uncle?

You're right about behavior-based boundaries being a good thing to teach. That doesn't affect whether you tell them to be wary of strangers though.

kangareagle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:26:30 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But if their uncle is more likely to hurt them than a stranger, why would you tell them to be wary of strangers but not their uncle?

Because the kid being wary of an uncle isn't helpful. The parents should make sure that the situations don't arise, and that the kid knows how to talk about his or her body and feels safe talking to the parents.

Being wary means not taking food from someone, not telling them where you live, or going back to their car, etc. That's not what they need to do with their friends and relations.

Kids should be wary of strangers.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:32:33 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So if someone they know offers them food, you want them to accept it, but if a stranger does you want them to refuse it, even though the person they know is more likely to be trying to drug them? How does that make sense?

kangareagle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:59:42 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's no reason to think that a relative is more likely to drug the child.

earthlings_all ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:01:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly.

needs-an-adult ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:14:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom would not let us go to sleepovers. Even if your friend is a girl and "safe" she may have sketchy brothers or a pedo father. When family friends or even uncles were were spending the night for whatever reason, she would have my sister and I lock our doors. As a kid, I thought she was paranoid. Now, statistically speaking, i guess she was right. Scary to think, but I sometimes wonder what made her that way.

_The_Real_Guy_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:20:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm super protective and clingy so I have to fight this anytime I've made friends in the past. Now I just don't get into relationships because I end up doing that to them and I can't stop it very well.

TaurineLine719 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:22:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Your children aren't safe, even in their own homes!"

earthlings_all ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:58:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fighting with close family about this. They try to instill stranger danger in my kids and I fucking hate it. I teach them that they need to be wary of Tricksters. People will try to trick you into doing something bad and hurtful - and that it could be anyone. A friend, a relative, a stranger. You don't need to fear everyone but you need to be aware because not everyone has your best interests in mind. I can't be there 24/7 to protect you but if you're aware of what is right and wrong, that goes a long way. Fuck stranger danger. That is a huge part of the problem why we are all looking at each other suspiciously now, people are wary of their neighbors.

me_loves_pizza ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 04:30:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have to disagree with this one. I was almost kidnapped on two different occasions by strangers. Once at 4 by a women in a van and again at 7 by a man posing as a construction worker. The second time the police said they'd even found graves dug near the scene for me and my two friends. Stranger danger is very real and children need to learn trust is earned.

phillyweis88 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:30:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow I'm really sorry and you sound like an unfortunate exception. That's insane. I didn't mean to demean the fact that some strangers do prey on little kids. I think for the most part though what happened to you is very rare and again I'm terribly sorry for that.

GhostBond ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 05:56:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Frankly, I'm going to take $500 on "things that never happened", Alex.

the police said they'd even found graves dug near the scene for me and my two friends

Reddit is notorious for people making up stories for karma. This one slips fairly clearly into that category in having just that right amount of additional and unexpected emotional drama for it to be unbelievable.

What's the theory here - someone saw some kids, and figured the kids would wait several hours while they dug 3 graves for the kids? "ah, these kids love being kidnapped and killed and they're very patient, no big deal we'll just hang out here digging some graves for a few hours".

It's both super scary - and super ridiculous. Could be that:
- OP is making it up
- OP thinks it's real but it's something OP's parents made up
- Cop made it up because he's tired of these kids screwing around

I mean come on - it's that exact sensational line that these made up stories always sit on. They were trying to kidnap kids! - and had dug their graves (oh no kids graves so emotional!) - for the kids and their friends! Oh no the kids friends are doing to die as well!

It's exactly perfect. Way, way, way to perfect. "And then the cop said 'but theses guys said they'd move on and look for other children instead, if you can just give me tree fiddy right now".

jl2121 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:29:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Reddit is notorious for people making up stories for karma.

He replied to a very low comment 6 hours into a front page thread, and you think he did it for karma? Sitting at 12 right now.

If he was going to make up a sensational story, why would it be him almost getting kidnapped and not him and/or his friends actually getting kidnapped?

Definitely seems like too uneventful of a story in too poor of a position to be made up for karma to me.

GhostBond ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:42:46 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

You clearly missed the entire point of the Tree Fiddy meme .

ryancgray1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:42:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Im Pretty sure i was taught stranger danger.. i just didn't care.. Strangers are awesome.. i love chatting to strangers and making new friends or making random people laugh.. good times

pink-owl-parade ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:09:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Reminds me of an anecdote. One of my best friends, whom I love dearly and who has an ASD, is in her late 20s and is still hyper aware of "stranger danger." To those of us who know her, it's perfectly understandable, but to those that don't I'd imagine it's a bit perplexing.

Once while she was out running errands, a man asked her for directions to his grandson's birthday party, so she firmly shouted "NO!" Ran away at top speed, and reported him to the lady at the post office.

timultuoustimes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:38:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom had a board game called Stranger Danger, and it taught you not to talk to strangers and to never take the short cut. Ugh, fuck that game, I'm 28 and havent made any new friends since moving a few years ago because I still can't initiate conversation and talk to people. My mom used to always say I was shy when I was a kid. Well no shit, every time you introduce me to someone new, they're a stranger. Maybe they'll kidnap me.

ryuluna ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:57:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Omfg this. I have 0 social life because I was taught there is a rapist at every corner, and there is people watching and waiting for me to be alone, so they can steal/rape/beat me.

It's gotten better, Thanks Pokemon Go.

phillyweis88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:40:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm new to this.. Is there a Pokemon ago Reddit?

OneGoodRib ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:58:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also it's stupid to teach kids to be afraid of strangers, because you can just go "Oh, well, my name is Tim. Now that I've introduced myself, I'm not a stranger anymore!" and if your kid is trusting/stupid enough they'll be like "Oh, okay!" Or they'll pull that, "I'm not a stranger, I'm a friend of your mom's!" bit. And then that can mess kids up for meeting new people who aren't harmful, but really are mom's friend, or a kid their own age, or a teacher.

The helpful police officer on The Justice Network says to teach kids a password, and tell them never go with anyone who doesn't know the password, but if they need help to go to an adult in a uniform, like a police officer or firefighter (and he didn't say this, but by extension I'd try to make sure my kid could recognize store uniforms in case they got lost in a store, so they would know to go to anyone who it turns out is employed in the store. Obviously not all stores have uniforms, though).

spiritbx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:01:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It keeps you close to the people you know, the ones that molest you...

Kareus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:03:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

yup.. this

Hundvd7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:32:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The most stranger dangery thing I had was when I was travelling alone by plate at the age of around 9. The guy sitting beside me let me blew his didgeridoo.

No, it's not an innuendo. The guy had an actual fucking didgeridoo. It was awesome. I did get lightly scolded by my parents, though.

xbtdev ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:18:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think it's ironic the way "Stranger Danger" people teach their kids to find a police officer, like wearing a particular type of shirt magically makes him not a stranger.

poopwithjelly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:32:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I live around a lot of homeless/poor/crazy people, and they will hurt you if you don't watch yourself. You are much safer minding your own business and avoiding anything more than necessary engagement with strangers.

Severinx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This happened to me also. I wasn't allowed to go to boy scout type things that involved remote camping with strangers. I wasn't allowed to play very far from the house till i was damn near like 12. I wasn't allowed to actually spend the night at friends houses til I was like 13-14 (and my mom had to basically know the parents extremely well.

Well, the kind of shit that goes on in this world is sick. I don't blame them one bit for being so strict.

CatPatronus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:44:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes! My mom was like that. Wouldn't let me join Girl Scouts or do any sleep away camp type things or even let me stay over at a friends house until 6th grade. All because she thought I would be kidnapped, raped, and murdered. Ironically I was molested for 8 years by my cousin. In her defense though the neighbor across the street used to watch her and her sisters for their mom and he sexually assaulted all of them at one time or another.

unforgivablecursive ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:32:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was 5ish I went to story time at a local library and the lady read a book about stranger danger. At the end she asked if we had any questions and I said:

"If you never talk to strangers how do you ever make new friends?"

And she was like: "No. You need to understand. You never talk to a stranger."

I didn't answer her and my mom told me I was being rude, so I said: "I want to talk to her but she's a stranger and I don't want to make her uncomfortable."

Sick burn, little me!

are_you_seriously ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Stranger danger is a real fucking thing. Come to NY and be a teenage girl. I can't tell you how many shitty or close encounters I've had.

phillyweis88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I believe that. Almost think you'd wanna carry mace around with you, do you?

are_you_seriously ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, my neighborhood growing up wasn't THAT shitty. Striking up a convo with a stranger on the subway has gotten me groped. Striking up a convo with a cabbie has resulted in him asking me if I wanted to fuck his friend. I've been stalked by a stranger on a bus. That sort of thing.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't have issues with this now, but I was also taught to believe this. There's always someone out there waiting around every single corner to snatch me up, rape me and put me somewhere where I'll never see the light of day again, so I should never talk to anyone I didn't personally know because ALL strangers were bad.

So you can imagine how much of a meltdown I had on my first ever day of school when I was in a room full of people I did not know.

I also wasn't allowed on a Greyhound bus for the longest time even as an adult because my mother felt that everyone on the bus was going to rape me and kill me.

unholy_abomination ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:11:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck........ I regularly give fake numbers to people I actually, genuinely like because my brain is convinced I'll get murdered.

TehKatieMonster ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:21:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I just want to point out that stranger danger is a good thing to teach to a point. For instance my mom taught me top never get in cars with strangers unless they were police officers or something. It has saved me from getting kidnapped quite a few times.

JamEngulfer221 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:31:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Have you considered that most victims of abuse know the abuser because stranger danger has been effective?

If you avoid strangers, you statistically avoid people that would kidnap you.

Rainfly_X ยท 95 points ยท Posted at 02:11:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That self-sacrifice is always noble, especially in the form of constraining yourself to other people's expectations of you. I'm such a good son for pursuing stuff they think is okay, but if I got caught with porn, I'd be in for hours of intervention. People inside our little religious community are automatically okay. People outside aren't all bad, but keep them at arms length, because you can't really trust them - you might get infected with their ideas.

ThePaperSolent ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:29:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

but keep them at arms length

The computer is at the end of your arm (unless you use your nose to type). So using Reddit doesn't break that rule.

lovephemera ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:35:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like the Jehovah's Witness family I had growing up

Rainfly_X ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:37 on August 30, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

SDA, so fairly similar, but I'd say JW is more intense. That lack of holidays/blood transfusions is rough.

bettywhitefleshlight ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 05:33:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Still have yet to unlearn that any pain I feel is nothing, that I don't need to go to a doctor, and should stop whining.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:06:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have friends in the medical field, and the best lesson is to know your body, and what's normal for you (which is different for each person).

I bumped my leg earlier this year and it grew into a walnut, then fist, sized bruise. It was completely black, which is extremely unusual for me because I never get bruises. My parents said it was a perfectly normal reaction.

Turns out I have ITP, and had virtually no platelets in my blood. After getting a blood test, the doctor told me to go to the ER immediately. If I had been cut or had a head trauma, that would have been extremely bad.

MinimalFractal729 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:38:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lemme guess... Poor family who couldn't afford a doctor?

bettywhitefleshlight ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:12:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family is quite wealthy. My dad grew up thinking he was poor while his parents squirreled away millions. Doctor was a luxury. So were toys and new clothes. He hated his parents for this when he found out but it's one of the things they did to him that he managed to do to us.

Sonja_Blu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:19:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This terrifies me. I'm completely flat broke right now because I didn't get a paycheque between December and September this year and I still don't have to worry about getting sick and going to the Dr/hospital. I'm actually going to visit my niece in hospital today because she's really sick and they have no idea what it is; she's been hospitalized and undergoing tons of tests, she's in a private isolation room right now for at least the next 5 days. It's not going to cost my brother a cent. He has enough to worry about with a sick daughter, he doesnt need to worry about whether he's going to lose his house to cover the bill.

dirty_mittens ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:42:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haha I'm kind of a hypochondriac so I had to learn to calm down and realize that a small sore wasn't cancer or something and that I didn't need to go to the doctor for everything

Severinx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:59:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you think something is wrong go to the doctor. Just to be safe. Just don't develop a complex and constantly go for any little thing. That can get expensive.

thraelen ยท 75 points ยท Posted at 02:29:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to unlearn being a hoarder. Both of my parents (who are not and have never been in a relationship) are varying levels of hoarder. I grew up with my mom and we were never allowed to have friends over because our house was so full of stuff. My dad (who I saw every weekend) bought a second house to fill with crap.

I had enough stuff to fill a moderately sized UHaul by the time I graduated college, but it was just so burdensome. I moved so many times in five years that I ended up just dealing with the emotions I had attached to the physical objects and letting go. I am much happier now and actually get bothered when I have too much stuff. It helps keep my house pretty clean!

dragonnerd ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:54:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I relate to not being able to have friends over.

Lunatic335 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 11:34:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents hoard, but they only hoard clothes. Like the house is fine except we have an entire room dedicated to my parents clothes. If they bought me a new t shirts or pants I need to throw shit out. Then they get pissed because "why are you throwing that out those are good clothes!"

thraelen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:52:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If either of my parents are around now when I clean or move, I have to guard the box for Goodwill or they will start taking stuff out of it for themselves.

pixelmeow ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:35:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not a hoarder but I understand the relief of letting go of things that I had emotional attachments to. I had a fairly large house filled with furniture and all sorts of things that I'd gotten from this relative or that, or that had been passed along in the family for generations.

I had to sell the house last year and moved down to FL with my mom. I had an auction company come in and sell just about every single scrap of everything I owned. Some of it hurt to let go, things I'd grown up with, that I'd had all my life. The worst was having all those strangers who had bought everything tramping through my house and taking it. It was sort of about losing my things, but it was mostly about having strangers in the house taking everything. It felt like an incredible violation. It still hurts to think about, a year later, but it had to be done and the relief I felt afterwards was surprising. But now all my worldly possessions fit inside a 10X15 storage unit awaiting the day I get a place of my own, and I am so much happier without the worries of all that sentimental stuff.

Br0ba_Fett ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:01:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow that hits home. It's unbelievable how much of a minimalist I've become.

PtolemyShadow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:06:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's easier to not hoard when you have more money. I wouldn't say I've gone as far as actually hoarding but I am conscious of my stuff and I keep some stuff I wouldn't otherwise because I'm poor and can reuse it because I can't afford to buy a new one everytime I need it.

thraelen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:31:42 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I never thought of it that way before, but that's very true. My parents didn't have much money and still don't, but as I've started to get into career mode in my life, "stuff" just seems less important to keep on hand.

k-squid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:22:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not sure where I got my hoarding tendencies because neither of my parents hoarded crap. I watched a season or two of Hoarders and was just flabbergasted at how similar I was to these people, only on a much smaller scale. I've been doing my best to clear out some crap, but sometimes I do just need my fiance to throw somethong in the garbage when I'm not looking, lol.

thraelen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:29:46 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It is really tough to work through. It used to pain me to get rid of anything, but eventually I just started getting more frustrated by clutter than it hurt to throw things out. Donating to Goodwill also helps because at least someone uses it then (in my own mind).

k-squid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:19:07 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I have a bunch of stuff that I'm going to try to sell in a garage sale. Whatever I have left after that, I'll just bring to Goodwill.

I've been doing better lately because rather than telling myself, "I can use it for something," I've been saying, "What can I use this for now?" If I can't come up with at least 3 reasons to keep it, I'm getting rid of it, lol.

amykp008 ยท 229 points ยท Posted at 01:47:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

that drinking is an effective coping strategy for dealing with stress, sadness, and anxiety. still working on unlearning that one...

NotThisFucker ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:14:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I just switched to water.

It's like I always say: If you can't overcome your issues, hydrate.

3jt ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:38:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'll drink to that

[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:22:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents didn't teach me that, I learned that all on my own.

I guess I should try to unlearn it...

stillphat ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:10:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Its not?

Ashybuttons ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:45:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's really effective short term, really ineffective long term.

PalmBeacham ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:19:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I learned it as more of a thing to do when you're bored and sitting down.

ncfears ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:19:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"It took me a long time to realize you can have alcohol without fun."

unholy_abomination ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:08:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But......... the whole point of drinking is to give yourself the illusion of having the emotional stability to deal with your own problems. What is this "fun" you speak of?

ncfears ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:44:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You've got the right idea!

faintedsquirtle ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:45:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"I drink because *** Has made my life hell and drinking helps me cope"

---Drinking is what is causing most of your problems. Instead of fixing your problems, just drink! But drinking has caused so much shit in my life (I am not the one who was drinking) that I avoid it like the plague. Even the smell makes me want to vomit. I wasn't abused because of it, even drinking wouldn't make my parents do that. But they have done really stupid shit while doing it. Maybe you would have more money if you stopped buying Lotto Tickets and Beer?

krobjob ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:32:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait. What? I'm pretty sure they nailed this one. Unless you know something I don't....

famfalcon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:24:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Best of luck

vithiasorrows ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:27:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I believe in you, stranger!

barto5 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:03:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait, what?

Severinx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:45:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same but with drugs and alcohol. I just about a year ago have actually started getting a good mental state and rehabilitating myself and with a psychiatrist. Drugs and alcohol make you feel good, but they can make you reckless, suicidal, and get in legal trouble.

unholy_abomination ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:06:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait... what?

SD__ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:08:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's a temporary strategy and for that it works well.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:40:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

totes

Dunyvaig ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:59:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's not exactly right though. Drinking, and I suppose other substance use, can have plenty of positive aspects to it. The key is modest consumption. E.g., drinking can definitely help some people with social anxiety at a party. It reduces your inhibitions making it possible for you to create meaningful relationships. It's practically the only way Scandinavians end up talking to strangers without being introduced.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:46:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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Pepper_dude ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:28:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But if I don'/ dring water I die

chaos_is_cash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Get an ulcer, I drank a couple shots last night and started puking blood while feeling like I had a knife twisting in my guts. Great fun

Dune17k ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

join us over at /r/stopdrinking for some help and support. Which reminds me, I need to reset my badge. Thanks

LadyKlaymoor ยท 13630 points ยท Posted at 01:06:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

My "good Christian" mother told me that only "black people and poor women" breastfed. This was very confusing. She said formula was good enough for her mother to give her and so it was good enough to give my sister and me. Ok. No questions asked.

So when I grew up and started having friends with kids, I saw how beautiful that gift was. When I got pregnant the first time, she pulled that bullshit wisdom out again. So I asked her if Mary gave formula to Jesus (and more importantly, where did Joseph find a corner store open on Christmas), and she shut the fuck up. I breastfed all 3 of my kids like a champ and she never said a word.

Edit: Thank you kind redditors for the gold!

ketlourd ยท 2642 points ยท Posted at 02:40:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I had professors who worked with NGOs targeting poor mothers. According to these women, they did not breast feed because it makes them look poor. Buying formula has this added image that you can afford shit. I just found that absolutely ridiculous.

Breastfeeding helps you lose some of the baby weight and bond with the baby. I don't understand why people can be so against it.

EDIT: I edited a statement. Breastfeeding will not make all your babyweight go away but it can help. This may not apply to all.

TigerlillyGastro ยท 1432 points ยท Posted at 02:47:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, and poor people buying formula, then adding extra water to make it last longer. Shit's fucked up.

[deleted] ยท 2017 points ยท Posted at 04:11:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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originalpoopinbutt ยท 953 points ยท Posted at 05:01:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nestle also used to give away free samples of formula to new mothers. Then when those mothers' natural milk dried up, they'd have to pay for more formula. But breasts keep producing milk indefinitely if you keep breastfeeding continuously.

Loocylooo ยท 230 points ยท Posted at 05:35:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Used to? They still do. Before the damn pregnancy test is dry, you'll have three or four sample cans and a fat stack of coupons in your mailbox. It's fucking ridiculous.

Mobileswede ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 07:58:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not in Europe. Baby formula is sold in stores, but no marketing is allowed. No ads, no coupons, no free samples.

[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 09:48:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And they are really strict on how much discount you can offer.

like2000p ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:34:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've definitely seen formula ads on the TV in the UK.

Onetwodash ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:20:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's formula (breatmilk replacement) and there's 'growing up milk' etc for 6months+. You can totally market the second.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:34:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The adverts have to state that it's not for newborns, and are normally marketed at a better alternative to cows milk, never breast milk. Still not great though.

maaghen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:24:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

something something brexit

like2000p ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:26:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Something something hasn't happened yet and won't for at least another 9 months.

Mobileswede ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:54:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

'milk' formula, not something similar like gruel?

Aurfore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:17:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same for ireland- but we have majority the same adverts.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:46:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How do they even know

Lord_of_the_Dance ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 08:50:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-incredible-story-of-how-target-exposed-a-teen-girls-pregnancy-2012-2

Shopping habits, one indicator is switching from scented to unscented products

jimmy_talent ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 07:56:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's a good question, I remember when I first started growing facial hair Gillette just randomly sent me a razor and I couldn't figure out how they knew.

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 08:34:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My friend got one when he turned 18. Three months late but they knew

glassuser ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:48:39 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Selective service registration records

princessvoldemort ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:14:50 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had friends who got razors from Gillette when they graduated high school. I think my brother also got one.

WhereIsYourMind ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:59:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I got one a few months after I signed up for the selective services (the draft). I've been told that they use that list.

lucid-dream ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:08:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit, no way. That's gotta be a confidential thing, right?

proweruser ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:11:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This one is pretty easy. They know when facial hair usually starts growing on boys and they know your date of birht. The rest is just math.

Sure for some it will be too early and for some too late, but for most it will be just right.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:59:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

it means that once in the history of time your parents applied for some free baby stuff.

proweruser ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:14:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The buying behavior of pregnant women changes. They start nesting and they eat different stuff. So if you have a rewards card, the store might know before you that you are pregnant (yes, it actually happens that women find out they are pregnant by the ads for baby stuff they get sent)

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:14:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Someone should tell them that Nestlรฉ formula cures evil eye. That way the poor babies would never get a taste of it.

Johnhaven ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:38:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mailbox? They hand that shit out at the hospital in a lot of places. When you're signing out they give you a bag filled with free samples and shit.

Loocylooo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:15:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We were getting samples about three months before I delivered our first kid. It was obnoxious.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:06:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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norwegianjazzbass ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:10:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In the UK I assume you learn about nutrition, breastfeeding and pros and cons. Telling them its better than breastfeeding with no-one there to give a more nuanced view puts them in a difficult position.

gravityapple ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:27:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes it is.

soggymittens ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:33:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Indefinitely you say? I like where this is going...

ChuckStone ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 07:25:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents taught me to never buy anything made by Nestle.

I never unlearned that one.

When someone retorted to my father that "Yeah, but KitKats taste good", he asked (in a working office btw), if he would be willing to wash with soap made from the rendered down fat of the Auschwitz Jews. Point made.

originalpoopinbutt ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 07:32:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sorry to inform you there's nothing special about Nestle. All of their competitors do exactly the same things. The problem is capitalism, not specific naughty capitalists. Buying from only certain companies is doing nothing but stroking ego.

jimmy_talent ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 07:58:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nestle has done way worse stuff, I'm not a person who is prone to boycotts but I can't in good conscience give money to such an evil corporation.

originalpoopinbutt ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 08:37:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

such an evil corporation.

You're gonna have to stop buying things entirely then, because they're all this bad. All of them.

proweruser ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:16:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah they are all bad. But just as in politics, you can vote for the lesser evil, in this case with your wallet. And Nestle is about the greatest evil there is.

bobojojo12 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 12:49:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ben and Jerry's

ChuckStone ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 08:23:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Sorry to inform you, but you're stating the obvious.

I don't buy only from certain companies. That's for hypocritical holier than thou SJWs.

That being said, if you can show me evidence of Mars actively and deliberately corrupting a trusted institution in order to create a false reliance on a manufactured product, and in doing so, knowingly cause malnutrition, disease and death... then I'll stop eating Twix bars tomorrow.

Guess what... there are companies out there, actively trying to turn a profit by honestly trading a product and fulfilling an existing demand. Just because they are publicly traded doesn't mean that they are literally killing babies because it can increase their market share.

Pretending that all corporations are the same is no different from ignoring the evils in your food supply chain. It allows you to resign yourself to inevitability, and deflect all responsibility to The Fates. Allowing your to consolidate your despair at the world with a primal desire to enjoy empty luxury.

Whilst I pity the ignorant, who unwittingly prop up and maintain the structures that bind them, and have nothing but disdain for those who knowingly support and benefit from death, destruction and poverty... what of those who have, in themselves, the awareness of Hell, and walk blindly by. "Not my fault... Nothing I can do anyway... nonchalant whistle"

Unfortunately, to do otherwise might require a little effort from time to time.

ClintHammer ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:31:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

All of their competitors do exactly the same things.

they don't. That's why american chocolate tastes waxy and bad. Hersey has an almost Disney image they wish to maintain, so in order to keep the price down without those same practices, they adulterate the chocolate with edible waxes

lucid-dream ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:10:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Really... Guess that explains the difference between American and British chocolate. British chocolate is somehow smoother. And much, much sweeter. Sweet enough to be gross. I don't know what that's about.

ClintHammer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:14:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

chocolate has a triangle to it, price, cruelty, taste

You can have 2, but only 2. If you don't mind paying an arm and a leg, you can get chocolate that tastes good, and doesn't involve trafficked humans and murder, but if you don't want to pay, you have to sacrifice on one of the other fronts

lucid-dream ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:19:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well fuck me then. Guess my periods are about to get a whole lot more miserable.

ClintHammer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:26:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

fuck it, someone's going to buy it if you don't. It's not like you're just going to stop using products made from oil or stop heating your home. Africa is fucked whether you buy the chocolate or not. If you're losing sleep over it, try talking to a chocolatier who knows more about it.

It's just kind of fucked for Hershey to advertise that their product and amusement parks bring joy to children, then support child slavery, so they don't

lucid-dream ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:41:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also just read your cheese discussion. Not enough lol's in the world. Plus good on you for pointing out the spooooky GMOs. Had an argument with a friend literally yesterday over that. Eventually got a "well, I need to review the literature" ... he is not a scientist. I don't understand the science but I trust people that have literally devoted their entire life to the topic and concur with virtually everyone else who has done the same.

ClintHammer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:10:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

people have gotten so disconnected from their food that they have turned to superstition. GMOs, wheat (TeH Glootins!), "organic", etc.

Organic is meaningless. "Certified organic" is almost meaningless. Anyone who ever had an apple tree knows you can't get apples with no blemishes without using poison. The fact that it's poison that is organic and therefore also poisonous to mammals doesn't comfort me much

lucid-dream ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:28:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It is strange that the anti-GMO, gluten-free, organic, free-range people are those most interested in reconnecting with the nature of food.

No idea if "organic" necessarily has to mean nothing, but I do realise that so much US labeling is totally meaningless.

ClintHammer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:39:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

it means it doesn't use chemical fertilizer vastly increasing the risk of e coli contamination, and it doesn't use inorganic pesticide making it more toxic for humans. Everything that is true about it is worse for you. It's also inefficient use of farmland in a world where surplus crops are what feed the starving in drought affected nations. There are no tangible benefits from eating organic food that anyone has ever been able to prove.

Also studies prove that eating organic food makes you a worse person

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/people-exposed-organic-foods-judgmental-self-righteous-study-article-1.1082048

lucid-dream ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:36:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Still... Now that I know, it's one of those things I can't get back. I won't be able to see an M&M without thinking about slave labour. I don't even eat meat because animal cruelty ffs -- I won't be able to bring myself to chocolate. Except when I inevitably fuck up and do.

I suppose on the bright side, chocolate is basically the thing that has separated me from veganism. And pizza. Pizza is huge. So... yay health I guess. You win this round.

ClintHammer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:41:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you're trying to cut cruelty out of your life, I'd say chocolate would go a lot further than a cow who lived a fairly good life until becoming 1,000 portions of beef

lucid-dream ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:44:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Tbh, I disagree with like 90% of vegans about animal rights... I'm not 100% convinced animals have a right to life or a right to freedom. I think that might be anthropomorphising them far too much. Any being that can suffer has a right to not suffer though. So yeah, it's about the cruelty for me. I literally could give a fuck less about dairy or eggs or meat if the animal were treated with respect with regards to both its life and death. I just don't have the resources or desire to seek out expensive cruelty-free farmers. I'd rather just cut it altogether out of little more than laziness.

The chocolate thing is good to know.

ClintHammer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:54:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

most eggs from farmer's markets are cruelty free, provided they're not just reboxing store eggs, and if you know anything about eggs, it's quite obvious if this is happening, dairy cows produce far less if they are unhappy so they even do dentistry on them, beef is mostly OK, pork is dodgy as fuck, chicken is questionable.

[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 07:53:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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originalpoopinbutt ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:35:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You guys always use that line but never in such an inappropriate situation lol. What on Earth does this have to do with "crony capitalism" or "corporatism" or whatever word you use for the way actual, really existing capitalism operates? They use quasi-slave labor and they mislead and exploit consumers. What about that would be impossible in your mythical uber-free-market capitalism but is in our really existing one?

Red_Ed ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:00:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They also used to send out sales representatives dressed up as nurses to increase their sales numbers.

whynolife ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:14:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Explains Lysa Arryn

Bethkulele ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:57:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There are similac samples in my ob-gyn's office. We all get a stack of coupons at our first appointment. It's crazy! And my hospital/doctors office is one that actually really encourages breastfeeding

msdlp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:59:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nestle people are not good people.

hitops1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:52:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've often heard this, but my wife and all of her friends milk supply stopped despite exclusively breastfeeding. Usually around 1 year.

originalpoopinbutt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Really? Huh. I know there's some weird people who breastfeed their kids long into toddlerhood, like up to age 4 or 5 even, so I just figured breasts keep producing it if a baby keeps suckling.

hitops1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It makes sense, and I've heard that too. But we have literally dozens of friends who are moms with young kids and it didn't happen to any of them. I'm sure it happens to some.

[deleted] ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 05:21:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nestlรฉ: If our admitted use of slave labor wasn't bad enough, we also killed babies!

Jah_Ith_Ber ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:09:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Something something free market, invisible hand, this is a good thing!

Kahandran ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:57:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As with democracy, free market really only works well with an informed public.

And the public is rarely informed.

Bamres ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:38:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I did an essay basically thrashing nestle for shit like this and many others. They were marketing it as pretty much a neccisity where people had no access to water that could be sterilized....

KWITHI ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:25:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everyone jokes about Comcast being Hitler, but honestly Nestlรฉ is like mega-Hitler. They are so fucking corrupt and completely shameless about it.

They have been sucking California dry for their bottled water even in this insane drought and they don't give two shits that our potable water reserves are so low it tastes like alge.

Fuck Nestlรฉ. I hope everyone who makes their decisions burns in the deepest pits of hell.

7Simon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:21:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What was Nestlรฉ markting campaigns and what was so manipulative and bad about him?

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:47:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They were marketing formula as better than the mother's milk in Africa. While there are cases where breastfeeding can be dangerous (AIDS), without safe water to make the formula even the very slight chance of HIV transmission can be better than infant giardia or dysentery.

bschug ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:42:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They should have used Nestlรฉ bottled water.

SailedBasilisk ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 04:10:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Especially in areas where they don't have reliable sources of clean water. Pushing formula in those places is one of the main reasons people hate Nestlรฉ.

zer0cul ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 04:42:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought it was the child slave chocolate harvesters, but that is a good point too.

lucid-dream ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:14:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've always been confused about what you gain from literally killing your consumers.

CSI_Tech_Dept ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:32:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well... they could buy Nestlรฉ's bottled water... /s

bouncy_bouncy_bounce ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 04:00:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And even if they mix it properly, chances are the water in their area is contaminated with lead or other nasty things.

max81968 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:15:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So you live in Flint?

shoopdedoop ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:48:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This kills the baby.

TigerlillyGastro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:03:18 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It depends. If they get the baby onto solids before they starve to death, then they'll just have lifelong consequences of failure to thrive.

It's compounded by expensive healthcare, where the parents might not go to the doctor until the baby has serious issues. Most people expect fat babies, so usually figure out something is wrong.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:13:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't think it works like that. Baby is still going to be hungry, he's just going to wet more diapers.

TigerlillyGastro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:04:12 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, it will malnourish the child, and malnourishment in infancy has lifelong consequences - health issues, cognitive problems.

jabbadarth ยท 678 points ยท Posted at 03:08:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It also passes on nutrients and antibodies to help the baby's immune system while helping the mother's body transition and heal from childbirth. It helps the mother and baby physically and emotionally.

62frog ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 04:55:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Dad to a 10 1/2 month old checking in... One thing I learned from all the birthing classes is that if a baby breastfeeds, something in the mom's titty region can tell that a baby is going to get sick and will start producing said antibodies before the baby is actually sick. Shit is wild, yo.

johnthewolf ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 06:18:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

dude, the breast milk is medicine. baby got an eye infection brewing? squirt some milk on it. my children experienced this magic.

62frog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:10:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep, daughter had an eye infection our something. Wife put some breastmilk in her eye 3 times a day and it was gone in 24 hours.

jabbadarth ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 05:18:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Im currently in the hospital with a 24 hour old learning all about latching.

daemonchile ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 06:11:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good luck and don't give up. It gets way easier as time goes by.

[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 07:00:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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jabbadarth ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 11:14:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Got the shields yesterday. Luckily the hospital we are at has a lactation nurse here who has been awesome. Got us shields, ointment, a pump and is helping my wife along.

jen0c1d3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:18:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

coconut oil also helps immensely in place of the lanolin.

notpandora ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:23:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm pregnant with my first, and Pinterest is a goldmine of information (as always, exercise discretion and incredulity, double check/double down on anything you read there). It's like the tribal knowledge of thousands of women and a lot of them are crunchy mommybloggers who do everything the hard way for bragging points, so even if you aren't going full hippy with cloth diapers and breastfeeding under the full moon, you can get loads of tips and ideas.

jabbadarth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:38:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh yeah I am well versed. My wife sent me e-mails and blogs on a weekly basis.

lizajuse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:32:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Find a local La Leche League meeting!!

billyyshears ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:58:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Congratulations!

jabbadarth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks

jen0c1d3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:17:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't give up!!! Ask for lanolin and a nipple shield!

ketlourd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:08:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is amazing.

Denny_Craine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait....what?

62frog ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 13:13:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's the magic of breastfeeding. The mom's body can tell when the baby is going to get sick and it starts producing the antibodies. It doesn't always guarantee the baby won't get sick at all, but doctors will say to breastfeed a baby with a cold more often because it's the best medicine.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:29:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same thing happens when mom is sick. I got a nasty cold a few weeks back, but my son didn't get sick at all. I'm assuming because he got the antibodies my body was making for me.

dblmjr_loser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't understand what you mean. Somewhere? What?

Maur2 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:50:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This was on the news just this last week, but 10% of breastmilk cannot be digested by babies. Instead, that percentage is used to feed and grow the bacteria in the gut, which keeps the kid from having digestion problems later in life.

JasePearson ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:25:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

while helping the mother's body transition and heal from childbirth

That's pretty incredible. Like, all of it is but this little bit is the bit that wows me.

Psistriker94 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:47:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was with you until "heal from childbirth". How does breastfeeding do that? Source?

jabbadarth ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 05:05:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
  1. Better healing postdelivery The oxytocin released when your baby nurses helps your uterus contract, reducing postdelivery blood loss. Plus, breastfeeding will help your uterus return to its normal size more quicklyโ€”at about six weeks postpartum, compared with 10 weeks if you don't breastfeed.
OuroborosSC2 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:29:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Breastfeeding is literally magic.

forgetasitype ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:44:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, it's funny how socio-economic class systems affect our perception of affluence. When my son was in pre-school, he went to the school across the street from my house. My neighborhood is pretty mixed economically and racially. I care for my family and manage my household full time, so I would come to the school often to volunteer, bring home baked muffins, donate old toys, etc. One day one of the kids told me she thought I should get a job, because I could be helping my family pay for rent and food and stuff. I explained that my husband made enough money to pay for all that. I could tell that she really didn't get the concept, she just felt sad for our family that I was such a deadbeat. It was pretty funny because I assumed the kids were all envious of my son and his awesome, art project making, cookie baking, party planning SAHM. No, they could only see it from the perspective that if mom didn't work, everyone did without.

[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 04:43:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, that's what they're there for. Did people really forget the purpose of boobs in the short span of time formula has existed?

Teaboo_mom ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 04:24:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's a big thing in the poor black community that breast feeding is unsanitary. This was started by the formula makers targeting poor people.

LesserPolymerBeasts ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:15:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, the Nestle Corporation is run by monsters: http://archive.babymilkaction.org/pdfs/babykiller.pdf

[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 04:41:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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Denny_Craine ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:19:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh that bitch would so not be allowed in her grandkids life if I were you

dutch_penguin ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:07:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This reply will probably get drowned by other responses to you, but there is a bit of "backwash" of baby spit. This apparently allows breast milk to be tailored to the babies nutritional, and immunological (?), needs. Link.

HypersonicHarpist ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 03:10:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And people in third world countries who mix the formula with contaminated water and get their babies sick.

FluffySharkBird ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:24:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Seriously, wouldn't breastfeeding be considered cool since it helps you lose weight?

HonaSmith ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:23:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not to mention how babies practically rely on mothers milk to support their immune system. I believe it transfers antibodies to fight infections which the baby can't produce on its own for 6 months or so.

ickykarma ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:52:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In some countries being fat = a sign of wealth. In fact, if someone is fat then they are deemed more desirable because their family is wealthy.

EnigmaticGecko ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:57:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

lose all the baby weight

how?

siyl1979 ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 03:02:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

your body uses a ton of calories to produce the milk, so the baby basically sucks the fat right off of ya.

(Provided you don't overeat, though. Breastfeeding generally requires about 500 extra calories/day)

mysliceofthepie ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:30:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It takes an extra 300 calories in a mothers diet a day to support pregnancy. It takes an extra 500 to support breastfeeding. That alone is a pretty good indicator of the power your body uses to produce milk, and why it helps you lose the weight.

Frommerman ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:15:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Conservation of energy! By feeding baby, your body is supporting not just yourself, but also a rapidly growing tiny human. That energy has to come from somewhere, and here it comes from stored fat.

MyNameIsSkittles ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:03:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Denny_Craine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:22:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The first law of thermodynamics baby

EnigmaticGecko ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:23:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I only ask because it seems like most women don't lose any weight after a baby and instead gain more....

ketlourd ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:09:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not a mom but an OB-GYN we interviewed told me that before. It burns calories? I don't remembe.

[deleted] ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 03:13:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It burns calories but it makes you super hungry too. It can help with weight loss but it's still not 100% accurate to say it makes you lose all the baby weight, many women struggle losing fat until they're done breastfeeding too. Like most things you can't really take a one size fits all approach.

unusualcritter ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:03:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Unfortunately true. I'm nursing twins - it burns through 1,000 calories a day....

And I've never known hunger like this. My body is convinced that if I don't eat vast amounts of proteins that I'm going to wither and die and take the babies with me.

It's frustrating as hell - if I could just go back to dealing with normal hunger pains I could ignore it, and be skinny as a rail. I mean, it's a friggin' 1,000 calories a day extra.

beccaonice ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:14:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well yeah, think about it. The milk is calories. It's giving calories to the baby, coming out of your body. Removing calories from your body, transferring them to baby.

Toxicitor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:12:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

All the fat turns into milk, then turns back into fat inside the baby.

PaperParakeet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:15:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Breast feeding expends about 500 calories a day. So there's that. But you don't want to create to much of a calorie and nutritional deficit, as if you don't get the nutrients you need for yourself and for your baby, your body will surrender them to milk production anyway.

lizajuse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:29:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Breastfeeding DOES burn calories. Approx 500 a day for EBF mamas.

istara ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:30:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ironically in more westernised countries it's increasingly richer women who breastfeed because they can afford to. Eg take maternity leave, pay for lactation consultants, by pumps if needed.

I see US women having to go back to work a few weeks after giving birth and I have no clue how they would manage it. It took about three months until I was able to establish supply, and I basically needed to be with my baby 24/7 and pumping in between until her latch got stronger.

Brewer_Ent ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:31:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Doesn't breast milk also have antibodies or something that the kid needs?

So-Cal-Mountain-Man ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:28:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My wife and I suffered from infertility, we had to use formula with our foster/adopted kids and my wife only dreamed of breast feeding. Formula is an expensive PIA, I cannot understand why someone would prefer that.

ThagaSa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:30:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Plus it quickly introduces babies to one of the most awesome things on the planet: boobies.

Laurasaur28 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:52:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Start 'em young.

1337butterfly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:34:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

breastfeeding is bad because people making formula would lose profits

farciculus_retroflex ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:07:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Plus, not breastfeeding actually can contributes to possible poor health of the baby. There are certain antibodies (IgMs) that only come from breastmilk and are transferred from mother to child in the first few months of life. Children that only ever get formula don't have those and are more prone to chronic illnesses.

BiZZaK88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

yeah it's weird that people would want to trust a powder in a can over their bodies that are designed to do it. Unless the mother can't breast feed for some reason. I feel the same about circumcision. why fuck with how your body is unless it's a medical issue.

ledditlememefaceleme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cooperations need our money cause their billions aren't enough, also they need us to raise more unloved kids to fill the prisons and justify more militarization of police.

goodmorningohio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

also helps build their natural immunities

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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ketlourd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:02:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Would just like to correct (and will edit my comment too), you don't lose all but it helps.

AnticitizenPrime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also transmits antibacterial resistance, and probably hormones and lots of other useful shit that some powder can't provide.

SuperSleuth119 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had no idea this was even a thing!

thaswhaimtalkinbout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ketlourd, you just answered your own question. because buying formula is for them what buying a mercedes is for people in dallas.

my dad grew up dirt poor. being circumcised showed the dudes in the lockerroom that your parents could afford a hospital when you were born.

DrMadlove ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not to mention, in my area of the planet, a large portion of young parents who do not breast feed are usually getting their formula from WIC. Now whenever I see anybody buying formula that they are getting it for free giving them the poverty stigma. Funny how times change

ahairychest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:33:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't understand why people can be so against it.

ikr? can't they just let me eat in peace! geez some people..

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:36:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

yeah but then you see women with their boob out in public feeding their baby and it's yucky!

zorro1701e ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:59:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Helps to lose baby weight. Not all of it.

J_Ardent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:38:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fucking Nestle

OneGoodRib ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:46:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Huh, I wonder where that belief comes from? In ye olden days if you were rich enough you'd get a wet nurse to breastfeed your baby, maybe using formula is the modern equivalent in these people's eyes?

I don't know what's wrong with me, I keep adding "r" on to the end of every word that ends in an "a" lately. Formular.

assdemonSpungluffen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:51:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Does anyone else marvel at how cool nursing is? I mean as if it weren't enough that you GREW ANOTHER PERSON INSIDE YOU, but now you are going to continue to feed that little person from your own body?!?!?!?

dqingqong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:03:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wtf. I didn't even know this was a thing.

CyborgNinja777 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:26:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Had a conversation about this in a class before. Apparently it all comes from some notion back in the 40's or so (someone correct me if I'm wrong) that using formula meant you were rich, and had better things to do than sit around breastfeeding all day.

asianfatboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:37:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't they also say that not breastfeeding a child/infant can increase the chances that the kid will grow up obese or something? My brother and I weren't breastfed and my brother once commented that that was the reason why he and I are overweight. I've also met other overweight and obese people who have mentioned not being breast fed. I've only ever heard of this and not really read any scientific paper on it. If they ever did one.

ketlourd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:03:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm going to guess it's because of all the sugar in the baby formulas?

jcraig312 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:49:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not only does it help with weight loss, and bond you with the baby, it's SOOO much healthier for the baby. I mean, you make milk to feed them. Its nature. Why give them expensive fake milk, when your body makes free specially-made-for-baby natural milk? I'm completely aware that some women and babies can't breastfeed, but why not at least try? I didn't do well with our first daughter, I only nursed her for maybe 2 months, and I always regretted not trying harder. I'm almost 5 months in exclusively breastfeeding our second daughter. And it's great.

acidmonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:30:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't forget how nestle got poor women hooked on using formula so they would stop naturally producing milk and would be forced to continue to buy it.

ermergerdberbles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:41:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My son's mother couldn't breast feed. She belonged to the Itty Bitty Titty Committee and her tiny funbags didn't fill up with baby drank.

abandoningeden ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:23:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Aso a lot think it is "scientific" and therefore superior to breastmilk. Wrong.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:03:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus now fat Americans will start breast feeding everything to try and lose weight.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:26:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Breastfeeding helps you lose some of the baby weight and bond with the baby. I don't understand why people can be so against it.

Advertising. You know, the reason you do most of the things you do.

Canadian_Infidel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:44:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's also much, much healthier for the baby.

TheLadyEve ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:45:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, I think part of the issue is also that low SES people don't have the luxury of maternity leave and often don't work in jobs where regular pumping is possible. A lot of these women are going back to work a week later. Insurance only recently started covering breast pumps in the past few years. Whether or not Medicaid covers them varies by state. It's freaking hard out there for poor moms.

ketlourd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:05:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In the US, this is the case. I live in a 3rd world nation. The poor moms they interviewed were unemployed and stay at home wives. They simply preferred formula.

whiteonwhiter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It also helps you pass immune benefits to the child and has a whole lot of other health benefits. I think new parents shouldn't feel shame either way, but health wise I definitely hope I can successfully breastfeed

manaril ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:11:06 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One thing breastfeeding does do, though, is put you through these sort of "reverse contraptions" to tighten those separated stomach muscles up again.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I dunno about it making one lose all the baby weight. I breastfed and didn't lose the baby weight until I got pregnant again and vomited nearly 20 lbs off of me.

ImmortanKenneth ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:18:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Breastfeeding makes you lose all the baby weight

Try telling my sister that.

buttsnuggler ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:42:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

don't spout that shit about losing the baby weight. breastfeeding burns more calories, sure, but it also makes you way hungrier. tons of ladies don't lose anything till they wean.

thatsentertainmentoo ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 04:35:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Breastfeeding makes you lose all the baby weight and bond with the baby.

Unless you are on your cell phone while you're breastfeeding.

HopelesslyLibra ยท 5455 points ยท Posted at 02:36:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i'm fucking dying. you just let loose with both barrels, that's hilarious.

titbiter ยท 3048 points ยท Posted at 02:56:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nipples blazing

[deleted] ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 03:14:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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EmmaBourbon ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 04:35:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

goddamn that nipple cream invention is LIFE!

yomandenver ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:49:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My wife went crazy if she couldn't find the lanolin cream. I would suggest regular lotion and would get the death stare to end all death stares.

EmmaBourbon ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:11:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

REGULAR LOTION IS NOT THE SAME AS LANOLIN CREAM

cries

yomandenver ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:52:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Now you tell me!

probablyhrenrai ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:12:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For infants, certainly. For adults, it's more of a fetish thing.

DialMMM ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:03:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Did Mary use it?

thiswastillavailable ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:48:32 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, they just had fresher lanolin then. What did you think the shepherds brought for their gifts? Lanolin of course.

dinosaursdarling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lanolin is nectar of the gods when you're breastfeeding.

StingsLikeBitch ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 04:05:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Relevant username.

10987654321blastoff ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:30:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Slightly Glazing

max81968 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:15:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

420 Hazing

10987654321blastoff ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:17:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Let's give up, buddy. We're too late. Let's just up vote each other and leave.

loaferbro ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:58:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

this guy sucks

anitoon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:34:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was drinking some good milk when I read this. Nearly snorted it too.

windowpuncher ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:17:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Liquid cooled

Jlpanda ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:42:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIENDS

El_Chavito_Loco ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:04:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Username checks out

im_from_detroit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:54:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tylertron12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:19:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

was listening to "all guns blazing" when i read this. good shit.

BigHungry70 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:28:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Blazing Nipples

Sockscake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:20:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

username sort of checks out

MoarStruts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:44:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Relevant username.

automated_bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:20:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's hard to find comment of that . . . caliber.

Khronosian ยท 923 points ยท Posted at 02:56:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Both voluptuous, milk-laden barrels.

talking_phallus ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 04:59:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You managed to complement and be creepy at the same time. Bravo.

[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 03:34:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

( อกยฐ อœส– อกยฐ)

copperwatt ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:57:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Source?

SquidManHero ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:14:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i don't remember that part of the bible

Semblio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:39:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Song of Solomon.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:02:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

CLICK CLACK- PSST! PSST!

JFKs_Brains ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:45:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Big, bold and beautiful.

Hobo124 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:13:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I like those words

[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Suicide by suckling, I'm down

Shut-up-Farva ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:37:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cboquist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:07:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is that... Is that a thing they can do?

Zerotan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:09:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
_The_Real_Guy_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:01:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Never heard that metaphor before, and that's surprising seeing as I live in the Appalachia. Gonna have to steal it.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:55:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i'm fucking dying. you just let loose with both fedoras, that's hilarious.

Kobluna ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"She was a fembot?"

pumpkinbot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:05:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm now imaginig what boob-bazookas would look like. Boobzookas, if you will.

And I know the Internet well enough to know that probably already exists.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:45:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh shit. Need me to call an ambulance

garrywithtwors ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:04:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Username checks out

ThelastReject ยท 135 points ยท Posted at 03:23:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is so bizarre! In Australia the pressure to breast feed is overwhelming. When our daughter was born it was either breastfeeding or you are awful, shit parents and your child will grow up stunted and alone.

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:42:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It was a thing back in the 50s and 60s. My husband's mother believed that only poor people breast fed their babies. The formula developers and manufacturers pushed this theory so hard that formula was superior to breast milk and only poor women couldn't afford to buy it.

Laurasaur28 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 04:53:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Unfortunately that's also common in upper-middle class circles in the United States as well. Breastfeeding is very trendy.

ShortOfOrdinary ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 08:12:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not trendy, it's fucking biological.

ryken ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 14:08:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's both now. Just google the shit people will say to mom's buying formula at target. Breastfeeding is amazing and we're doing it with our kids for sure, but the whole thing has kind of swung too far in the opposite direction when people are shaming moms at target for buying formula.

goatsin ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 07:48:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I get what you're saying, but is trendy really the right word? I mean, the majority of people have been breastfeeding their infants for tens of thousands of years.

onlykindagreen ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 13:06:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think trendy is the correct word, but it's not really breastfeeding that's trendy, it's the return to "natural," earthy crunchy, non-processed, organic, blah blah blah. It's stuff we have been doing for tens of thousands of years, and that's why it's so appealing - it's a return to what's natural and wholesome and good. We could definitely use some of it, but this movement has definitely gotten trendy and overzealous in the sense that people now feel a superiority over anyone who still uses formula, or processed foods, or even looks at the word GMO. And in reality not all of what we're pushing away is bad (some of it is really good), and there are legitimate reasons why someone won't (or can't) be earthy crunchy with you. Breastfeeding is "trendy" in that way now; people care that you do it, they know it's "better," but they don't care why, and they'll look down on you for formula feeding.

jb2386 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:20:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Studies are also showing it's also very important for the babies. Breast milk > formula.

BeeCJohnson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:24:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah we had to get pretty shitty with our hospital because we had decided on formula and they were constantly harassing us and sending in coaches and generally making us feel like bad parents.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 05:03:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some women can't breastfeed for various reasons, but are often shit on and called horrible parents for it.

Laurasaur28 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:55:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's absolutely important. But some women can't do it for various reasons. It can be hard for women who are depressed and haven't formed an attachment with the baby... like my mom.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:43:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's hilarious because 50 years ago it was the exact opposite.

f-ingunicorns ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:47:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

With all of the benefits of it, is it really an unfortunate trend?

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:37:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Today yes. But it did not always use to be that way. Her mother and grandmother are from a generation that has been brainwashed in using formula. OP's mother then naturally thinks it's best for her children and grand-children.

That's how it was in Australia too.

Lady_Generic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:48:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It definitely is trendy in the states. With my first kid, I was given a bunch of formula by the hospital nurses even after I was going to breastfeed. (I actually couldn't. I had to pump for 10 months. Formula is expensive!). My second kid, I was told I had to bring my own formula if that was my wish. (I couldn't breastfeed him the regular way either. Turns out my kids have lip ties that pediatricians and lactation consultants are sort of oblivious too. I found a great Pediatric dentist who is going to take care of my toddler when he's older. He said if I had another to bring them by asap so we can clip the tie.) I ended up having to buy formula for 9 months. It is so expensive. I lost so much weight when I was an exclusive pumper. I always tell my pregnant friends about that. I lost all my baby weight plus some weight I packed on from college. 60lbs in 6 months. Oh and it's cheaper and personally easier at night. Formula feeding is so great during the day and when you want to leave the house. I loved the freedom. You do whatever works for you. There are perks to both sides of the argument.

funobtainium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:15:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are lip ties the bridge from the upper lip to the top gums?

pokes with tongue I have that, and had a gap before getting braces. Also was bottle-fed. (I was a ridiculously healthy kid, though.)

Lady_Generic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:44 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes! My son's started almost behind his gums. It's a class IV upper lip tie and very thick. He head-butted his brother on accident a couple weeks ago and it tore a bit. It looks like it relieved some of the pressure, but it bled like a MFer. Since the rip, his gap has started closing in. He's only a year and a half though.

asshair ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:37:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well that's correct so.

TalesFromTheCoop ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 04:24:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother in law tried to convince us we needed to feed formula to my son. I stubbornly kept breastfeeding and he's a perfectly normal 5 year old now. She would glare at me for daring to breastfeed around her. Good times.

BadGuy_ZooKeeper ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:32:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Was it because of his gender? Or was she like that about breastfeeding in general? I've heard very weird things about people believing that breastfeeding only sons, is wrong.

TalesFromTheCoop ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:57:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She did the same thing with my daughter, too. I suspect she's jealous that she didn't get to bottle feed either one of my kids. Like we denied her the opportunity to be a grandparent because of that? It's very strange. (Of course, she also equates babysitting with us making her raise our kids... so I know she's out there already)

Nose2Book-Eye2Sky ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 03:39:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There is no connection between Christianity and not breast-feeding. Where did your mom get that idea?

[deleted] ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 04:54:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I luff chikkens

fnord_happy ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:22:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What did they think breasts are for?

gormster ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 05:50:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For men, obviously, like the rest of the woman.

[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:36:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I luff chikkens

Nose2Book-Eye2Sky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:25 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There are magazines from the mid 20th century warning against the "fetish for breasts." There is also a documentary on breasts - I believe it is called 'Bursting Out' - mentions breasts are a sexual object in many, but not all, cultures. TL;DR - the breasts are not inherently a sexual organ.

Just backing you up, Iheartdewey.

evange ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Huh? Religious people tend to have more kids, so if anything the idea of breastfeeding should be way more normalized. If you go to any conservative church that skews younger there will be like a kajillion babies, and half of the newborns will be nursing at some point during the service.

TL;DR I see more boobs at church than you do in your dating life.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:23:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Because my CHRISTIAN FUNDIE parents did something wrong.

Nose2Book-Eye2Sky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:57 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Her/your parents misunderstood or were misinformed/miseducated about the relationship between breastfeeding and Christianity.

[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 04:36:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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jh00d08 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:52:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If she read that book she wouldn't have come to that conclusion.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:38:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The idea that nudity is shameful is front and center in the first chapter.

I assume we're talking about the bible and not Peter Benchley's Jaws.

Mbritt1232 ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 04:03:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't understand this at all. Thats literally the only function of boobs. They feed kids. I thought formula was like a supplement to milk if the baby isn't giving enough?

OhMyMassiveTesticles ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 02:50:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can you prove that Mary wasn't black though?

fnord_happy ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:23:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or poor?

OhMyMassiveTesticles ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:47:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Excellent point.

Szwejkowski ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:31:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She was certainly a shade of brown - as was Jesus.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:29:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We need to call Maury and find out if the father wasn't the milk man.

BriSy33 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:33:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I just imagine you breastfeeding you kids while giving her a shit eating grin from across the room.

LadyKlaymoor ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:56:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Omg...you were there?

BriSy33 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:28:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was in the closet. Dressed as superman.

LadyKlaymoor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:56:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sweeeeet.

BriSy33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:07:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm still there by the way. It's dark as shit in here and i could use some crackers and water.

LadyKlaymoor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Omg, you just made my day. I'll put out the snacks.

BriSy33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:43:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Put them out and turn the lights off. I have to skulk out like a spider and bring it back to my hovel.

LadyKlaymoor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:42:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If I throw a shoe at you tonight, I apologize in advance.

BriSy33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Most people assume i'm a spider so i'm used to it.

TheBurningBeard ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 03:10:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Formula is fucking expensive too. Which is why the whole association with poor people came from.

Bergber ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 04:27:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There is also strong evidence that bottle feeding can also cause various developmental disorders, and that breastfeeding is integral in brain developement. So, in other words, she wasn't just wrong for bonding reasons, but for jeopardizing the overall health of her children.

imperabo ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 06:29:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's strong evidence that all of the previous studies that show a benefit to breast feeding over formula are faulty due to selection bias and confounding varaibles, and all benefits disappear when properly controlled: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0277953614000549

[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 06:59:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There are still risks with formula and banked milk. Fuck ups happen even if you're a six sigma blackbelt.

imperabo ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:42:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There are risks with breastfeeding too. One of my sons starved for the first week because no one could tell he wasn't taking in milk. He turned out autistic, which may or may not be a coincidence.

DizzyMissy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:15:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This exact same thing happened when my mom was born, minus the autism part. Grandma would think she was breastfeeding but the baby was taking in nothing and she was taken to the doctor half starved. Luckily when I was born my mom figured out early that she was unable to breastfeed me.

[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 07:58:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hate to guilt trip you as you probably do that to yourself enough, but that is definitely NOT a risk with breastfeeding. That is recklessness/negligence. Someone (ultimately the responsibility is with you) should have been weighing the kid, noticed a problem within the first 24 to 48 hours, and supplemented with banked milk or formula. Just as risk is inappropriate, coincidence is not the word I'd use, irrespective of the may or may not. I'd use words like potential consequence or likely co-variate.

imperabo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:09:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'll be sure to pass that info onto the professional lactation consultants who were supervising him and whom he fooled, and the hospital where we were staying for the first 3 days after birth.

Also, I enjoy the fact the you don't consider the difficulties with the breastfeeding true risks, but the very simple and controllable issues with formula are.

[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 08:38:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'll be sure to pass that info onto the professional lactation consultants who were supervising him and whom he fooled...

Good luck. I have researched this subject rather extensively for a friend who argued with "professional lactation consultants" with her first child. Their egos are likely far too big to truly listen to a patient, even if that patient has good research studies with which to present them. I've seen it happen. I also question the credibility of your consultants because it is my experience that doctors seem to err on the side of formula.

Also, I enjoy the fact the you don't consider the difficulties with the breastfeeding true risks

This isn't a matter of opinion. I am sorry you want it to be. You're wrong. Get over it. I am sorry it was difficult for you and I am sorry you didn't know better, but what you are talking about is NOT a risk with breastfeeding. Calling it such undermines the reality of actual risks with breastfeeding, e.g., communicable diseases. What you are talking about is a risk. It is a risk associated with being a rigid, unthinking retard that is hell bent on breastfeeding without the possibility of anything else. You're just as stupid as the idiots that think all vaccines are good or all vaccines are bad.

the very simple and controllable issues with formula are.

The simple and controllable issues... that you are aware of. What do you think the odds are that you are playing with a full deck? I'd laugh out loud except you're far too sad for that.

imperabo ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 09:40:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You are an absolute piece of shit. Blocked.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:08:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Blocked.

Aww, you can't handle the truth? How cute.

ALittleFishNamedOzil ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:48:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom didn't breastfeed me due to drug abuse for a extended period ( i mean it, how she managed to stay alive is supernatural) so if i was you i would go look under some rocks and she what's up with good christian mother

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proweruser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:44:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

breasts are so hypersexualized

That is an interesting thought. I never connected the two. In europe we don't give that much of a fuck about boobs (men still like them, but it's not the end of the world if a naked breast appears on TV) and breast feeding is just normal. Makes sense.

[deleted] ยท -39 points ยท Posted at 04:49:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 05:47:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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naughtymandrake ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 11:42:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I want your last sentence on a t-shirt.

SaneesvaraSFW ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:20:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And if she is not producing milk?

Architectphonic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:11 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Formula has fantastic applications (orphaned babies, mother had mastectomy or can't/shouldn't breastfeed for other reasons), but if there isn't any reason holding a woman back from breastfeeding, how much better breastmilk is than formula (especially in places with contaminated water!) make it the clear winning choice.

Summary: I absolutely agree but fomula is a very important invention for its applications

proweruser ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 12:49:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well I guess in the far future you could have a kind of replicator at home that takes saliva samples from the baby and mixes the perfect formular for it. That could theoretically be better than breast milk. But that's like a 100 years off, I'd guess.

JellyBeanKruger ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 07:00:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ya know, I personally feel pooping is too primal. I'm sure science will find a better way for that basic function to be performed. Perhaps we will all be fitted with colostomy bags for instance! Much more advanced.

MrLMNOP ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 05:30:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I mean yeah you are free to have that opinion. Just know that it's wrong.

imperabo ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 06:25:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nah, he's just the messenger. It's nature's fault for being icky.

[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 13:21:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sex is also primal. Sleep is primal. Childbirth is extremely primal. Pooping is primal. Hell, people go out and hunt still, so that's pretty primal. Most things we do are primal, but that doesn't make them bad or wrong. I think the issue here is you are uncomfortable facing the truth of what we are. Imagine a world where everything humans did was sterile and manufactured. Imagine replacing things like sex and food with pills and tools and computers. Imagine a world where everything that is considered "primal" is instead manufactured and placed in neat little convenient boxes so nobody has to face the realities of nature. If breastfeeding makes you uncomfortable for that reason, you really need to examine why you're not ready to accept that not everything we humans do can exist in this bubble of civilization. Our most basic functions are what make us who and what we are.

fnord_happy ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:24:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wtf dude?

ketlourd ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:46:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's probably the grandmother with that issue since the mom was just following what her mother did.

outsitting ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:40:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For a long stretch of time, breastfeeding was discouraged for everyone. It had nothing to do with hiding anything (except maybe the breasts). It's also not something unique to breastfeeding. There are all kinds of parenting "wisdom" that takes generations to undo. We're still seeing the cascading results from Spock writing a book that said to never tell a child no. Nevermind he retracted it later, there are still kids being raised today without hearing no because that's how grandma raised mom.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:07:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ugh, my mom pushed formula so hard. I eventually gave in. It did get extremely difficult to breast feed (I literally did almost nothing else but fees and sleep and my baby had latching problems.) But she pushed breast feeding constantly.

She also insisted fluoride toothpaste was fine to let my daughter eat (which she did when she demanded to keep my daughter overnight once a week.)

Oh, and insisted on using a forwaed facing car seat to take my daughter to her hometown an hour and a half away in before she was 9 months.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:16:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ummm

radicaltights ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:12:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No forward facing til 2.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:27:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Uh it sounds like your mum thinks your daughter is her daughter. She doesn't have a right to anything, it's your kid.

marshroanoke ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:10:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

great use of the Bible to prove your point! you knew your mom :)

yolomcswagger83 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:14:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Damn savage AS FUCKKK

BlondStasia ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:45:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a doula in South Florida who constantly comes across clients who have mothers like yours, THANK YOU for finally giving me something to say to them all! Can't wait to use this =]

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:30:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This makes me so sad that she feels that way! But yay for you! I love breastfeeding and I wish I could do it forever. I dream of becoming a wet nurse after my baby is done breastfeeding.

gibblings ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:37:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is amazing. Good for you!

giveitago ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:18:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Breastfed children on average are smarter and have healthier immune systems and tend to have less asthma.

Lefaid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The black one is hilarious because the opposite is true based on what I have heard.

jermdizzle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus was brown. Your point does not stand.

alekzander01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haha holy shit, did she really try to saying that breastfeeding is for black people only? How did that though even get into her head?

TheWestButt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom is the exact opposite. For whatever reason docs said she shouldn't breastfeed (something with her thyroid maybe?) and my grandma on my dads side would say "he would be so sweet if you would just breast feed him". I think my mom still hasn't forgiven that woman. Then again she isn't easy to forgive with the bullshit she has spread about my mom.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I asked her if Mary gave formula to Jesus

Fucking smackdown right there

General_C ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It must be hard being that fucking savage.

maneaserban ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is awesome, you rock lol

EonnStorm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good job for you! My mom breastfed and is a firm believer in it. She's told me some crazy things people have said to her and the one I must share here is when her sister-in-law asked my mother "Are you drinking that milk so you can breastfeed the baby?" My mom still doesn't understand that logic.

TehKatieMonster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I would tell her "you do realize breast feeding is a huge part of Jewish culture right? They breastfeed their kids until they are three, that's why they are so smart."

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why wouldn't she want you to breastfeed? Thats bizzare

FailFastandDieYoung ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Now I'm picturing Joseph driving around Bethlehem on his camel, only to give up and bring home Chinese food.

NorwaySpruce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Have you posted this before in another thread? I feel like I've read this somewhere already

LadyKlaymoor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:58:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nope. I try not to bash my family out of kindness, but this stupidity had been burning a hole in my brain for 14 years and I had to finally get it out. Guess I'm not the only one with a bitch-mom?

sammisamantha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Augh. You breast fed girl!

My mother told me to not breast feed so I can have nicer tits. And also to request a c section so that my vaginal area was pristine when I got married.

Sorry mom, pregnant at 16 and I was going to do what was natural for my body.

Flight714 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I saw how beautiful that gift was.

Although I agree with the gist of what you're saying, it's flowery language like this that makes breastfeeders sound like a bunch of fucking weirdos, and probably helps to market formula than most of its global advertising budget.

nourishproncess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:26:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh my gosh, I love this!

des-tal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck yea! Fuck your mom's perspective! Nothing against your mom though... but fuck that dumb shit!

FishDawgX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:32:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think there was some big marketing push from formula companies like in the 80s or so. It included a lot of government propaganda too.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It was so satisfying to upvote you from 2999 to 3000 :-)

whatsausername90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Of course Mary breastfed, because she was poor. You think she could've afforded formula??

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:43:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not Christian but I'm pretty sure Christmas wasn't celebrated until after Jesus was crucified. You know... when he was a GROWN man.

TheJeffreyLebowski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"only black people and poor women breastfeed"

dead. lmao

beepbeepitsajeep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know if it's true, and this is only semi relevant, but I've heard that breast feeding helps get rid of the baby weight. Can anyone confirm or deny?

LadyKlaymoor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:55:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Imho, it worked! While you are still eating for two, you burn massive calories making milk. Never exercised, last All the weight, and I put on 75 with the fittest, 70 with the second, 25 with the third.

Kirkys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Did you use your nipple to squirt your disgust against the notion of breastfeeding?

Lesbanon_James ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ahhh the good ole Jesus Juke.

4609203 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Have you even considered that your mom was adversely affected by the formula she drank?

Karieann- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:06:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly I wish my mother had breast feed me. I have many health problems and I heard it is related to those how have not even breast fed.

faithfuljohn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:08:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This kind of stuff baffles the hell out of me (not the racism stuff, but the "Christian" hypocrisy). I mean, if you honestly believe in God ... then you must also believe God invented breastfeeding.

Of course, it probably just to justify her prejudice.

_This_Is_Magic_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:10:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And your kid's name? Albert Einstein.

wlee1987 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:17:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit that is so owned

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus saves again!

PrincessIceheart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:31:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm so angry at 20 year old first time mother Me. I was a private in the army at my first duty station when I had my daughter and I let my leadership (for reference I was a medic in a medical platoon) convince me to feed formula to my daughter so that she would be healthier. I blindly followed their "strongly worded recommendations" rather than following my instinct and due to that I missed out on the best bonding opportunity I could've possibly had with my princess. I deployed when she was 3 months old, so the least I could have done was breast feed her until then, but I didn't. Lesson learned. My next baby (science willing) will be breastfed by either me or my wife.

TLDR: Don't let anyone convince you to do something without doing research on the topic, military or not.

mildiii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:36:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair, Mary and Joseph were transients squating in a barn at the time.

gowhoastop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:41:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I love this more than anything. You're awesome.

cooko4_cocoa_puffs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:50:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hit her with a dash of logic and she shut right the fuck up, awesome! I wish it was this easy with everyone.

ScrewJimBean ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:53:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't understand how breastfeeding is related to Christianity

barktreep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:54:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty sure Jesus was black

zorro1701e ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:08:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

On the flip side my wife decided to breast feed our children. It was told to us by many in the hospital that breast feeding is best. Etc . We bought into the idea. We were lucky enough to get sent a full sized can of baby formula by the company who made it. We had bottles from the baby shower etc. We spent one day after the birth in the hospital. Our first night alone was a nightmare. Our baby would not stop crying. We changed him. Breast fed. Etc. We called the hospital late at night and they assured us everything was ok. Babies just cry. Our baby was not hungry. If we breast fed him he got enough. We kept trying. Hours went by. Finally I had enough. I opened the can of formula and made a bottle. He drank that bottle up and stopped crying. I was almost in tears knowing my baby boy was just hungry. After a little research I read that babies die like this. Sometimes the milk takes a few days to come out in usable amounts. If you have a baby on the way, do yourself a favor and have a can of formula and a bottle handy. Just in case. More info here. http://www.skepticalob.com/2015/06/babies-are-dying-because-breastfeeding-advocates-are-lying.html

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:10:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus was black and poor so her logic still could've worked out.

Spacegod87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah but I really hate how high and mighty women who breastfeed are towards women who don't. It's like people who like medium-rare steak or calling soccer football and won't stop whinging about it. It's insufferable. I think both sides just need to shut up and stick with whatever method they want and not judge others.

nizzy2k11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:14:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Couldn't she just say they were poor?

Abraham_Link ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As an atheist, I'm happy for you for learning the good lessons of your religion!

girl_pants_20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:39:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad tried to breastfeed me once. Apparently I didn't like the hairy nips.

FluffyUnicorns27 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:43:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you for breaking that cycle in your family. I love you. But your children will love you more for it!

AcidicOpulence ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:49:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Most deserved gold of the day!

secretlyacuttlefish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:50:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's stupid, honestly I learned the opposite, only mothers who don't have time to breastfeed use formula.

sdfghs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:09:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In Germany if you don't go shopping formula in the morning there won't be any. There is a whole "formula business" buying all the German formula and then reselling it in China, where it has high demands. Therefore they introduced the 3 packs per person/day rule

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:14:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Joseph looking for a corner store on Christmas. I lol'd.

Durbee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:34:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The folks over at /r/JUSTNOMIL would love the retelling of that story. Props.

cyrax99 ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 02:59:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to handle disputes with others, and get your point across. The methodology in my house was to raise your voice, often getting to the point of shouting if you felt you were right, or someone wasn't understanding your point. There were VERY LITTLE civil discussions between my parents, or my parents and siblings. Always a ton of shouting and insults. All these years later, I still tend to raise my voice quite loud when frustrated, and only recently began to be able to control my anger. Can't even tell you how many jobs and friendships I've cost myself from flying off the handle, and saying very insulting things, in situations where it certainly wasn't warranted. I grew up where that was the normal thing to do, where venting anger and insults at people you were angry at was seen as normal, and the next day it was just swept under the rug (only to rear its ugly head the next time there was a disagreement.)

ShmuckDestroyer ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:50:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was taught this as well. My dad would scream as loud as he could and continue until you agreed. He'd get in our faces and tell us "SAY IM RIGHT, SAY IT." I still have issues with it and have began to just leave situations until I'm calm again.

cyrax99 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:06:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

From my dad, it would progress from an insinuation of physical harm, to him getting all in your face, talking about how he was going to hit you. Parents like the ones we had are terrible to deal with. As far as walking away until you're calm, that's the same thing I had to learn. If I feel angry, and the need to say something, I make myself wait a little bit. If it's warranted, I'll still have the same opinion when I calm down. Usually however, I no longer feel the need to say the angry thoughts I was having. It has saved me a ton of hassles later in life using that philosophy. I still have my moments where I get perturbed, and say things I shouldn't however.

Gradual_hillbilly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:03 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents could occasionally be the same way but oddly enough the times when I got really scared were the times in my teen years when my dad got deathly quiet. At that point I didn't draw my next breath to yell back (I didn't really help the yelling, my parents are not entirely to blame, I was definitely a bit of a rebel) I drew that breath to prepare for fight or flight.

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SolitarySysadmin ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:21:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That last one is something my dad would do. My sister when she was a teenager was listening to some Bob Dylan and my dad causally walks past and drops in to conversation that he went to school with him and he was a prick.

Now that may not be too unbelievable except my dad is 20 years Dylan junior and we live in Ireland...

My sister was a bit gullible and believed the whole thing much to the amusement of her classmates. Now she doesn't believe anything he says unless someone else confirms it. Which is probably a good thing.

Fun_On_A_Bunn ยท 129 points ยท Posted at 01:05:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To never have a credit card. Now my credit score isn't great and it's a struggle to build it up.

abhikavi ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 03:10:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Basically all the financial advice I was given as a young teen turned out to be terrible for my credit: never get a credit card, if you must have one it should be the lowest limit possible, and god forbid you 'need' more than one card.

Nope. You should have at least one credit card to your name for a good, long time. You should have other credit cards with large limits so you have a small debt-to-credit ratio (i.e. using $300 monthly on your $500 limit card dings your credit even if you're paying it off monthly, whereas $300 on a $20k limit card, paid off monthly, boosts your credit).

The only things that were true are that you should pay off your credit cards monthly, in full, and you should never max out your credit.

booper_dooper_balls ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 03:56:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well that throws out everything I learned in my personal finance class from movie lectures from Dave Ramsey who basically said "credit cards are bad, just use debit or cash and your life will be easy"

abhikavi ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 04:02:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was very lucky to learn this a few years before I wanted to buy a house. It took my credit score from ~550ish to 740. It's important to know that your credit score directly impacts the interest rate you'll pay on your mortgage. A couple of yearly credit card fees (although, you can often call and complain to get these waived) could save you tens of thousands of dollars.

I get the idea behind 'credit cards are bad mmkay', but that philosophy completely ignores the way credit scores are calculated and the financial impact a low credit score can have on your life.

What you should do is treat your credit card like you'd treat debit/cash. Don't spend money you don't have in the bank.

Meanbeanman123 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:50:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

treat your credit card like you'd treat debit/cash.

This is exactly what my parents have always told me and my siblings. Then of course as soon as my brother who's never saved a day in his life got his first credit card ($5k limit) he booked a flight to see his girlfriend on the other side of the country. He's still trying to recover from that one 3 years later.

NeedsToShutUp ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:33:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dave Ramsey's advice is great for Dave Ramsey. He runs a business that's all about helping folks in debt... by buying his products and services and using his endorsed local providers for investing.

Some of his stuff is actually great, learning to budget, learning to psychologically deal with debt. But his math is off, and his 12% interest is back of the napkin bullshit that doesn't account for the fees his providers take. Further, his hatred of debt is unreasonable. There is good debt when reasonably managed. He does his no debt thing because it makes it popular for churches into biblical investing to bring him in.

GraveyardGuide ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:45:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, that seems like an OK strategy to me. Don't spend money you don't have.

Granted, I know very little about finance.

kanninabu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, his post doesn't really contradict that. You're still supposed to know how much money you have when using credit, and spend only what you can afford to pay off when it's due.

I think a lot of people see credit cards as evil because the interest can grow to ridiculous amounts if the holder's spending is out of control. If you don't let it get to the point where you have to pay interest (or at least a reasonable amount), credit cards are great.

GraveyardGuide ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:59:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't really want to bother with the bills, I like my transactions quick and complete at the moment of purchase.

kanninabu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To each his own, of course.

I was just pointing out that using a credit card doesn't necessarily mean that you're overspending.

WeRip ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have my cards automatically deduct the full balance (not just the statement amount) from my checking account every month.

I do this for a couple of reasons:

A) Building a credit history

B) Cash back (between 1-5% depending on the card and what it is I'm purchasing)

I should note that all of my cards have no annual fee. I have been doing this for years and have made thousands of dollars in cash back and I have an almost perfect credit score now at 27 years old. I think the advice that should be given is: Don't spend money you don't have.

Mu69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:00:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Was about to comment this.

mybeautifulhooves ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:45:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

... TIL how to credit.

Rotom-W ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:39:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait really shit.... My life is a lie ahh

abhikavi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's free to check your credit score, and well worth doing. Be sure to go to the actual government-recommended website... there are loads of places that offer 'free trials' and crap.

I learned about all this through my credit union. I checked my score, was alarmed by how low it was, and walked in to chat with them about it. They told me about my credit card issue (putting 90% of my limit on my card every month) and gave me a lot of great advice.

bigbramel ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:31:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Because the US credit system is shit, doesn't mean it's bad advice. Credit cards are short term loans and basically loans are bad.

TaylorS1986 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I avoid credit cards because I'm very impulsive and I don't trust myself with one.

Jennrrrs ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:01:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was always told that as soon as you get a credit card, you immediately turn into a zombie. You can't control your spending urges and all budgeting goes out the window.

This advice usually came from alcoholics trying to teach a young kid how to be responsible.

SomeAnonymous ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:27:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

From their perspective I can kind of see the mental pathway. Like, when they got a credit card, all budgeting did go out the window, so they assume that is what always happens.

ItsACaragor ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:34:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What is a credit score? Never heard about that before.

salbert ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:16:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's a number created by companies like Equifax that banks are other places use to determine whether or not they want to lend you money or give you a credit card. It's based on things like how long your credit history is, how much of your available credit you use a month, and whether or not you make payments on time. If you never had a credit card you probably don't have a score.

If you have a job, get a secured card with like a $500 credit limit, use it a little bit each month on junk food or something and pay the balance in full each month. It's good to start your credit history as young as possible because the length of your credit history is one of the biggest factors in determining your credit score.

ItsACaragor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:37:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So you are forced to contract debts so you can get a credit for your house later?

In my country debts are seen as something you have to avoid like plague and whether they lend you or not depends on how sane and debt-free your financial situation is. It's always interesting to meet cultural differences.

I am not sure it would even be allowed here since it kind of looks like abusive commercial practice.

salbert ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:44:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, it's not really debts if you borrow within your means. It's pretty dumb because, yeah, someone who has simply payed off a small balance every month is by no means a "safer risk" than someone with no credit history but has the same level of income. It's just one of those bullshit "jump through these stupid hoops to prove yourself" things you have to do in American society. Like writing a cover letter on your resume.

ItsACaragor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:47:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Well, it's not really debts if you borrow within your means.

If you borrow money it's debt whether it is within your means is not very relevant to the term.

salbert ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:50:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I agree, but I'm just saying you don't have to actually go in debt to build a credit score just in case that's what you were thinking.

ItsACaragor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:42:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ah no no. I was just thinking it was a bit abusive that had to borrow (and therefore pay interests I assume) to build your score.

salbert ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:19:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, you don't have to pay interest as long as you pay your balance every month. But yeah, I think one of the main reasons that banks like the credit score system is that it incentivizes people to potentially go into debt and pay heavy interest if they start borrowing beyond their means. In that sense it is fairly predatory.

ItsACaragor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, they probably expect people to slip at one time or another. Also it trivializes loans and trains at a young age vulnerable people who are not financially savvy that when you don't have money anymore you can just take more at the bank.

Squidblimp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:56:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

On the other end of the spectrum, only get a credit card if you fully understand what you are getting into, and how to correctly use it to not put yourself into debt.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:08:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

currently going off to college... no one's talked to me about bank accounts or credit cards or debit cards at all...

SD__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:07:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They are great if you can pay them. You need multiple cards from companies who do not communicate so as to get zero interest.

.

If you don't have the ability, or enough cards, don't bother.

Severinx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:55:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Car payments made on time, house payments made on time, utilizing places like rent a center, etc. Good luck.

Ran4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:28:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's correct. Getting a credit card is just stupid. If you can't pay for it now, don't buy it now... It's not rocket science. Yet Americans seems to think that credit cards is a godsend.

alina_314 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:14:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's not why people get credit cards. I got mine purely to build credit. I pay it off in full every month.

wolfbayte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One credit card is fine as long as you realize what it actually is: a debt card. Use it, but use it wisely by paying it off every month and avoiding late fees and interest.

SomeAnonymous ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:27:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One misspelling and a credit card becomes a debit card...

wolfbayte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:31:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Debit card should be called a Check Card like back in the day.

crispychoc ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:03:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Reading all the other comments in this thread makes it seem you're ok if that's the worst you had to unlearn.

jLypLyp ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

to be fair, credit was not widely used at their time and not understood like today about credit score...sooo some slack?

[deleted] ยท 244 points ยท Posted at 05:15:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christ. The list is too long. I'm grateful that my parents have been around long enough to continue giving me shitty advice well into my adulthood, but they definitely instilled some ludicrous ideas into me over the years.

One that comes to mind now was something that my mother hammered into my head as a teen. In a rare moment of clarity (I lived in a fog of untreated depression and anxiety), I announced to her that I was sick of caring about what other people thought of me, and that I was going to do everything in my power to stop thinking about it. As I said the words, I felt a huge weight lift from me. It was one of the first true "awake" moments that I had as a growing human, and I felt a rush of relief when I finally said the words aloud.

My mother immediately slammed on brakes (she was driving me to school), and pulled over to scream at me "Don't EVER say that you don't care what people think of you! You'd BETTER CARE. If people don't like you, it's because you're lazy and you don't try hard enough to fit in."

She didn't mean any harm in it at all. It was (and is) her world view: anyone worth knowing is "normal", and anyone who doesn't quite fit in is somehow intentionally weird and subversive. The idea of her daughter voluntarily opting out of social pressure really unsettled her. Unfortunately, I couldn't rationalize the advice at the time. Scolded, I retreated back into my shell, and spent another 10+ years trying desperately to figure out what what wrong with me since nothing I did ever seemed to matter to the people I was supposed to want to impress. I was in my 20's before I finally realized the utter and complete bullshit that she'd laid on me.

[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 11:39:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This may sound weird, but I identify strongly with your story... even though my mom was the polar opposite. Like, opposite side of the same coin. Anybody worth knowing is NOT normal, normal people are evil bullies, they'll end up pumping your gas, etc. It took me a long time to see the value in living a normal life.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That sounds horrible. I would venture to say that your situation was far worse, particularly if you lived in a conservative community. Did you always have a sense that she was wrong, or did you just accept that you should try to be "different" at all costs, and only make peace with it later?

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:17:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It wasn't until high school that I started to get the hint. There was a lot of stuff in our lives that put her attitude into perspective. Like, if normal people are so awful, then why are they happier than us? Why do they have better lives? Stuff like that.

DeepSpaceArbiter ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 09:21:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How did you work through that? Were you ever able to properly not care about what normal people think of you, or did you find some people with which you felt you belonged? Sorry, your comment just resonated with me.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:56:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you for asking. It's hard to answer this without writing a book, but the easiest thing to say is that I'm still working on it. My parents were not bad people, just very misguided about some things. Mistakes were made. After a pretty bumpy adolescence, I realized that I've got one life to live, and I can either spend it mired in the "could've-would've-should've" world of the past, or I can focus on the present (and future) instead.

Do I care about what other people think of me? I care about what SOME people think of me, namely my SO and employers. I don't dwell too much about how the greater world perceives me because in all fairness, I don't think much about them either.

I'm quite a bit older now (the incident I posted happened 20 years ago), so that has allowed me a lot more perspective on "normal" people as well as my mom. There isn't a group that I have ever felt a sense of belonging to, including my family, but that hasn't stopped me from learning to appreciate the relationships I build with the few people I can actually call "friend".

DeepSpaceArbiter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:12:15 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you, this helps :)

bschug ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 11:15:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh man, that hurts. You managed to climb out of the dark hole of depression all by your own, and kicked you right back in.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:08:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair, I don't think that I'd managed to climb out in that moment. It was simply a jolt of clarity that possibly could have led to some early-onset maturity. Instead, I regressed, because I just didn't have the intelligence or mental health to question what I was told. My mother shouldn't have said what she did, but she didn't cause my depression.

The depression was a way of life for years. Frankly, it still is, though I'm doing much better these days. Depression is like a shitty tattoo that you wake up with one day. You can cover it up with makeup or clothing, and you can even go months without looking at it, but if you allow yourself to look in the right place, it's always there waiting for you. The trick is, learning to make peace with the knowledge that it's probably not going to disappear on its own, and that you have a small amount of responsibility in how often you allow yourself to dwell on it.

rattus_p_rattus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:47:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sorry x

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you, truly.

Snow_King7 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:12:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's like looking in a fucking mirror. I know that is usually said sarcastically, but are you me?

nuttz207 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:37:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christ is one of the things I had to u learn too

Good_god_lemonn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:33:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dude is she petunia dursley?

TandalfB ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:24:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I would die for my right to be different. We need some other people, we don't need everyone and we certainly don't need many people who completely accept us

AwkwardNoah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:42:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Welcome to the land of give no shits of the idiot over there

Doctah_Whoopass ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:57:44 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That type of rabid conformity really scares me. I think your mom was either bullied heavily as a kid/teen or she was a horrible bully.

ZenaMarie ยท 2599 points ยท Posted at 22:51:04 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Black people are nasty and have lice and are different from white people, evolution is a lie, scream about everything and never compromise because that's "settling" and you should always put yourself first, abortion is wrong, animals were put on this earth for human use.

kneelmortals ยท 797 points ยท Posted at 00:40:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That all sounds familiar and I'm not southern. My asshole father once argued with me about gravity. GRAVITY

011111011010 ยท 1214 points ยท Posted at 01:19:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like he was really pulling you down.

LordCharco_iii ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 05:46:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're already a better dad than him.

[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 02:09:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

goddammit...

AlexanderTheGrave ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:40:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's heavy, man

jetpacksforall ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:33:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He just wouldn't drop it.

villainouscobbler ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:51:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Newton got it all wrong. The Earth just sucks.

BadWolf2112 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:17:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Weight for it

conduit122 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:06:15 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I guess you could say this dad's head is as empty as outer space.

pike184 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:03:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Since we cannot fully explain gravity through science it is undeniable proof of the existence of the Christian 'god'" - shit I was actually taught.

AverageJohanson ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 01:16:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That all DOESN'T sound familiar and I'm AM southern. My family has always been more liberal than even I am.

firedrake242 ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 01:52:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, what kind of Southern? Richmond is really different from central Alabama

winemominthemaking ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 02:36:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, here in North AL, my fiance had to unlearn all the same shit from his psychotic mother who 'homeschooled' him until he was about 12. So our daughter won't be allowed to visit grandma without supervision.

dankenascend ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:24:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

North AL, not conservative roll call...

Well, that's the two of us!

my_fellow_earthicans ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:22 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My son won't be visiting his grandparents in Louisiana without supervision, some ideas are just toxic to put in the heads of kids

ficklefire ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:44:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm Central Alabama and I've become a lot more liberal than I was before I moved here.

comrade_questi0n ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:51:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Tuscaloosa here, I've become much more left-wing in reaction to what I see here. I'm from Texas, but yeesh, there are tons of really backward people outside the University.

thedarklord_3 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:12:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also from around Tuscaloosa, and I agree.

comrade_questi0n ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:45:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I live a stone's throw away from one of Alabama's 5 abortion clinics, and there are protesters there all the time. My girlfriend volunteered to escort women and girls from their cars to the clinic, and you would not believe the things they say to these women. There was a 12 year old girl who had gotten pregnant after being raped going into the clinic, and these lunatics called her a "murderer" and a "whore" as she went in.

I know behavior like this is not unique to Alabama, but Jesus Christ, I'd never seen anything like it before I came here.

hijack619 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:55:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The proper response to those people is, "yea, so what?" Then a "go fuck yourself with a cross." if it continues.

comrade_questi0n ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:57:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It may be petty, but I always flip them off while I'm driving past the clinic to class. I cannot fathom why they are so hateful.

hijack619 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Time well spent in my opinion, and not petty at all.

Reborn4122 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:58:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shit dude I've never talked to a part of a state before. How are the people who live on you? Do you ever get uncomfortable because your being stepped on?

ficklefire ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:59:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's actually very orgasmic. Imagine having little tiny masseuses massaging your body all the time. On the other hand, I had a really nasty bit of roadwork going on that was supposed to get me more in touch with Memphis...

They say it'll only take a second, but the next thing you know it's been 22 years of unpaved corridors and broken trust.

MericaMericaMerica ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:40:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Central Alabama checking in. Never heard any of that from anyone I'm related to.

AverageJohanson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:14:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Arkansas Delta

I-Do-Doodles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:07:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not the other user, but I'm from central North Carolina (think just outside of Raleigh) and have never met people like OP's parents. My parents, dad especially, don't like the idea of gay people getting married or having exposure in pop culture (gay couples in commercials/tv shows, etc.) but are slowly getting more tolerant, and my mom doesn't personally agree with abortion but remains pro-choice.

The only thing that really drives me nuts is that Dad thinks all the science proving the existence of climate change was paid for by the liberal party, making climate change a hoax.

Kingimg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not all southerners are like that. Even in central Alabama.... I'm from central Florida and I was raised liberal. Most of my friends are liberal as well.

kneelmortals ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:38:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sorry, just meant that some southern schools are crazy, like abstinence only sex ed and refusing to teach evolution

[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hey man you are southern you must be a Bible thumper.

Willkm ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:02:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad argued with me once over mass. He claims that, if you were able to weigh the Earth, it would get heavier when you form a baby. He still doesn't understand conservation of mass.

toby1248 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:27:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ฮ”E=c2 ฮ”M

Mass is not conserved. Formation of a baby from food would imperceptibly decrease the Earth's mass

Godbot666 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:07:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

mass isn't conserved.

yolomcswagger83 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:27:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lmao who tf tries to argue about the existance of gravity

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:47:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religious people because gawd

kneelmortals ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:34:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

a Narcissist who can't be wrong.

3jt ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:54:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

On the... whatever day it was, God who is also Jesus, sort of, invented gravity. But this was before God invented inventing, so it sort of just... happened.

Come to think of it, how did God invent inventing if inventing hadn't been invented yet? Let's not think about that too hard. Here's a picture of a kitten: https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/562466745340817408/_nIu8KHX.jpeg

badwolf42 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:23:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How could he possibly deny that it's guardian angels holding you safely down on Earth? I mean, just wow!

GentlemanGearGrinder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:10:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Grandma once told me she didn't believe in light years. She was surprised to learn that a light year was a measurement of distance.

qtg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

are you Josh Nichols

kneelmortals ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:34:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wish.

Jacosion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Argued what exactly?

kneelmortals ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:33:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

answered above

SirFluffymuffin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:33:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can you give an example of an argument he made?

kneelmortals ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:33:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He refused to accept that all things have some amount of gravitational pull.

kangarooninjadonuts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:47:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And I live in the south and some of the most redneck people I know are the most non-judgemental, accepting people I've ever met.

kneelmortals ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:32:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wouldn't know really, I never been further south than DC. Some of the southern school systems are crap, like straight refuse to teach evolution and have abstinence only sex ed

nacho-average-food ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:47:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe if he denied it enough, he would just float away, no more problem.

kneelmortals ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:31:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wish. It was more that all things have a little gravitational pull. He didn't believe it

SD__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:30:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I got about 90 seconds into explaining what a Head Up Display was in some car I had and she (my mother) sported tiredness. 18 minutes. She normally keeps me on the phone for an hour or two.

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I was prepared for a two hour stint there. Now what the fuck am I supposed to do?

TheNaug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:39:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What did he actually say about gravity?

kneelmortals ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:30:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My sister and I were discussing that all things have gravitational pull. He argued that that was bullshit because when astronauts are in zero gravity stuff isn't attracted to them. No matter what sources I showed him, what formulas that calculate that pull is tiny for our mass we still have it... he just wanted to argue I think

TheNaug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:22:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad used to argue the contrarian point to rile me and my brother up quite often. But sometimes, I couldn't tell if he was just pulling our leg.

Maybe your dad did the same? :)

kneelmortals ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not with a track history of getting pissed off about everything. And I do mean everything. I was selfish for doing something nice for someone else that wasn't him

That_Internet_User ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:02:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Where's desertphile when you need him. https://youtu.be/G91IU8cFJ7o

MalenkiiMalchik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:59:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well duh. It's the theory of gravity.

Npriley ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I bet his argument didn't carry a lot of weight.

kneelmortals ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

snort I'd give you gold for that sir

thelonelybiped ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:46:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow I can't believe you don't believe in Gravity

kneelmortals ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

More that he didn't believe in gravity

AnaRosie ยท 1133 points ยท Posted at 22:57:14 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yiiiiiiikes

ZenaMarie ยท 904 points ยท Posted at 22:58:36 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The south...

GenitalDiddler ยท 571 points ยท Posted at 23:32:26 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Then you forgot gayness is a sin and "we glorify god in this house" as a reason why you can't cuss or masturbate.

[deleted] ยท 117 points ยท Posted at 23:40:17 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

username checks out diddly

Larjersig18 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:47:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Diddling his daddley

MagFrag5891 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Slappin' his sausage

legomanz80 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:27:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's why I wank in the back yard.

white_butterfly1 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:54:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Surely masturbation is celebrating God? Surely shouting 'oh god' is a celebration?

Snapjaw123 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:55:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But I always "glorify God" when I masturbate ( อกยฐ อœส– อกยฐ )

lilbandit ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:45:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is what outside is for.

Thepowerisreal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

we glorify god in this house

Thats like cooling a freezer.

Zerotan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:56:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

if God didn't want me to masturbate, why did he make touching my bits feel so good?

Aesahaetr ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:40:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's the devil's work, it's trying to tempt you or something.

I've found that "the devil did it" makes for a rather convincing imitation of Christian rethoric.

xXSpyderKingXx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:18:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Relevant Username

[deleted] ยท 130 points ยท Posted at 00:22:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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getinmyx-wing ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 06:00:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sometimes I feel like the midwest is worse off than the proper "south." I live in Missouri and Christ does most of this sound familiar. I can't even begin to count the amount of times I've been told, "I don't have a problem with black people... I just don't want to date/be around them," and "something something homosexuality sin something something f*ggot."

My parents - who are from Southern California, I might add - also firmly believe that Mexicans are a plague to society and exist solely to steal the jobs of hardworking american citizens. My dad freely tosses around racial, homophobic, and gendered slurs, and my mother has been known to throw out such classic hits as, "I love the gays - I just don't think they have a right to get married," "It breaks my heart that you're going to burn in hell. I wish you would just accept God's love (even though I've never discussed my religious views with her)," and "It's a woman's JOB to have babies! How else are you going to fulfill your husband?"

Frankly I've given up speaking to them about anything other than the most surface-level and superficial of topics.

FancyKetchupIsnt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:58:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Frankly I've given up speaking to them about anything other than the most surface-level and superficial of topics.

Man, it feels good to know I'm not the only one haha

ph0on ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But le south is still raysist and bad!

/s btw

rynnbowguy ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 01:51:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here, Wisconsin is just the Alabama of the north.

[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:03:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Frommerman ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:13:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hey! As a hoosier, I represent that statement!

moosethewrapper ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:11:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think you mean Ohio instead of Michigan.

AlwaysTime ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:54:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For sure. If anything, Michigan is the Colorado of the north.

sailorsardonyx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:26:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yooper here, we're a bunch of pot smoking hipsters and woodsmen. Definitely more like Colorado than Alabama.

Sylente ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:32:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But we don't have weed or mountains, the two defining features of Colorado.

rynnbowguy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:08:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'll give you that. Both WI and LA know how to party hard for sure. Still ignorant as fuck though.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:26:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe it's not that all these northern states are like the south but that the rural areas of these states are very conservative which is true in every state. But that's me assuming that you and some other commenters are from rural areas.

Although Indiana might actually be a lot like the south for all I know. It's technically in the Bible belt I think.

rynnbowguy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:32:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Unfortunately, no. I know many people in big cities that hold those same views. I came from a town of about 40,000, although, not that big I had a hard time finding friends who did not hold archaic views. I have since moved away, but my best friend from back home has dropped at least 10 of his friends in light of the new election and how vocal they are about hating black people. A good majority of these people are from Milwaukee, Appleton, and Greenbay, which are not small towns.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:01:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's sad to hear. Although from what I've read about Milwaukee not that hard to believe. The city is so segregated that a white person could go for months maybe a whole year without seeing a black person and vice versa.

Racists as far as I can tell dehumanize people. They believe not just that a race is different but that they are inferior or even less human just because of the color of their skin. I know this isn't an original idea or anything but I really think that if someone racist would just befriend someone of the other race they could finally just see them as a fellow human. And once that happens all of their racists beliefs would fall apart.

Edit: revised a bit

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know. I guess if someone always keeps say, a black friend, at arms length at all times then he could still be able to call him a friend and be racist. But then that's not really a friend is it? That's more like an acquaintance. If they truly become friends and have genuine conversations with each other, the way that Daryl Davis befriended KKK members, then I think racists would definitely start to sing a different tune.

Cat-Imapittypat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:33:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can confirm. I grew up in a tiny town in Western Massachusetts and the people I grew up around remain the modt racist collection of people I've met to this day. Conspiracy theories, guns, and racism abound

volatile_chemicals ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Indiana was basically run by the Klan back in the 20s if that tells you anything.

SparkyDogPants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I always say that! I was hoping if would catch.

SparkyDogPants ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:14:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Idk. It sounds like my Maryland side of the family.

Electric_Evil ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:10:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can confirm, live in Maryland, surrounded by assholes.

Kingimg ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:04:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Basically old school ideology. Not just the south. There's a lot of good people in the south

startrekunicorndog ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:00:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just cause there's a lot of good people doesn't mean that racism isn't most prevalent in the South, though. And I say this as a Southerner.

kangareagle ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:35:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No. Religion and racism are not uniquely southern, and there are plenty of southerners who aren't crazy.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:17:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'd argue the majority aren't

kangareagle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Of course.

KayakBassFisher ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:32:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sorry, but this shit happens everywhere.

KH40T1K41 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:54:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Because it's just the South, right? /s

beetus142 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:10:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As the son of a southern family raised in the north, you have my sincerest condolences

Baby_Vegeta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:52:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yet everybody from Texas loves Texas. That's because they never learn.

Herkles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:00:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was born and raised in the south. My son was born in the south, but he won't be raised there. My wife and I certainly won't teach or reinforce the ideas you mentioned, but it's just so prevalent in the culture.

Chaniatreides95 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:32:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

sounds more like Christians to me. not /all/ southerners are fucked up like that

CatPatronus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I guess that more depends on the time period. My parents grew up in southern Louisiana and while my dad had super racist upbringing, my mother didn't (her dad was actually gay too) and they both raised us to be super tolerant of everyone. Regardless of skin color, sexual orientation, or career choice (except my mom thinks all strippers are prostitutes, but I don't care) I live in south Texas and while there are many who're intolerant of anyone different from them and our education system may be a little not so good, I grew up not seeing race for the most part unless they spoke with an accent and I realized they were a different race.

Sarcastically_immune ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lived in the south my while life (South Carolina) and never in my life have I seen shit like this, and I work with random people everyday. Except for maybe the screaming to settle things, but that's just a simple minded tool.

scared_pony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm from the south and we are not all like this. Shitty people can exist anywhere!

SageWaterDragon ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:01:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Congratulations, you just generalized an entire region of the country full of tens of millions of good-hearted and intelligent people as "that racist, sexist, bigoted place." You're as bad as the people you criticize! Good job.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:34:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeesh i thought this was mostly a stereotype

proofbox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:30:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Because it mostly is

Michaelscot8 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:10:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Born in raised in Alabama, and other than a KKK member who moved from Mississippi, I have never met a person who thinks like that. Every once in a while I meet a racist in denial, or a homophobe in denial, or a gay, racist, homophobe in denial, but never just a straight, homophobic, stubborn, racist . Maybe one day... but not today.

Mangonesailor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:07:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

...different from white people...

The next time a black person says "Black culture," ask them why they have to be different because they're black.

JAT621 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:36:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

The lice thing is funny, assuming that you and I are both American.

Lice latch onto hair with perfectly shaped clenches basically like a puzzle piece. The shape of the hair fits perfectly into the claws of the lice and makes it easier for them to live there.

In America, majority of Americans (white) have a different shape of hair than African-Americans and therefore, in America, white people are more likely to get lice. However, if an American white person were to go to Nigeria, it would be flipped. Different breed of lice adapt to different types of hair.

Edit: Lice also prefer hair stripped of grease (recently showered) compared to greasy hair. Also note that greasy hair doesn't necessarily mean dirty. Your scalp needs some level of grease in order to keep it from drying out. Also, I'm semi-drunk which explains why I'm going into detail about a topic that no one gives a fuck about.

Marcentrix ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:38:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is actually pretty interesting. I went to an elementary school that had a lot of AA kids and the "only white people get lice" was taken pretty literally. It's all I've ever heard anyway. The rationale was that the AA kids were using product in their hair ("natural" was not popular then) so the lice didn't live in their hair.

Anyway, I think it's Interesting so TIL

JAT621 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:00:48 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Yeah, that logic implies that you can just "drown" the lice away. Lice can actually hold their breath for up to 18 hours I believe, so unless you plan on doing extreme damage to your hair by adding unnatural products in your hair for days on end, you're still able to get lice.

Syrinx221 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:56:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I love posting drunk, overly well-thought out shit on Reddit. :-)

[deleted] ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 23:11:29 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That sounds like pretty much everyone on my dad's side of the family. What's really frustrating is watching the younger children grow up to have the exact same attitude about the world.

Dortchthebeast ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:13:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought the Lice stereotype was always the other way around.

blackgeorgewallace ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:07:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In my elementary school it was always the white kids that had lice. Especially the white girls.

KWITHI ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:02:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Have you ever tried getting lice out of long hair? Shits near impossible.

And don't even think of suggesting a hair cut unless you want a screaming hell tantrum.

I got lice once when I was about 11. It was a nightmare.

[deleted] ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 23:33:45 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Kingimg ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:05:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Woah that sounds like your father was the problem. Not the area you lived in...

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:58:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Kingimg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:08:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I mean he could just be interested in confederate history. It's interesting stuff.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:32:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Kingimg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:23:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your right that is weird. some people take there heritage a little to far. You said your brother isn't from the south right? I had a few glfriends in highschool who sooo wanted to be redneck one of them bought my farm truck from me. He was from south Florida. One of the least country places in the world

smartburro ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:27:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I moved to the south when I was 11. Always heard of "southern hospitality" I find people where I live now are much more kind, accepting, and in general hospitable, then in the south.

kangareagle ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:38:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The south is a big place, really, and so is "not the south." I mean that I'm sure that there are lots of places in the south with really nice people and lots of places outside of the south with less nice people.

WeaponsHot ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 05:26:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Southern hospitality is being nice to your face, and shit talking the hell out of you to you back.

3jt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:58:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What do you call someone who's white on the outside and black on the inside?

Mom

kangareagle ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:37:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have vague memories of being told not to touch black people or I would turn black.

No sane southerner believes that, so I don't know what the hell you're remembering.

vivaenmiriana ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:17:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

surprisingly there are racists everywhere my friend

kangareagle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:20:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

OP seems to think it's a southern thing.

vivaenmiriana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:52:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

there are stereotypically more in the south.

kangareagle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, I know the stereotype.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:50:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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kangareagle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I grew up in the south, too, and I never heard anything like that. I think you just had some weird people around you.

mydearwatson616 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 01:40:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty sure black people are less likely to get lice due to the greasy and curly nature of their hair. Harder to move around in that stuff.

And they get to have afros. It's just not fair.

RainbowMax ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 02:03:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Actually it's the thickness of ones hair strand that determines whether or not their head is more or less likely to get infested with lice. Grease (which btw everybody can have from just natural heal oils) doesn't bother lice, nor the texture.

Happymorndas ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 02:13:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I always thought a black person's hair (as opposed to white hair) produces less of the natural oils and that's why it can look 'nappy.' Have I been living a lie as well?

Edit: though to thought

DatWascallyWabbit ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 02:34:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're correct. That's why black people use oil sheen/grease based hair care products, and why they don't have to wash their hair as often.

Also Loredas is best day.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:07:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Youre incorrect. Black peoples hair produces around the same amount of natural oil as any one else (bearing in mind that everyones hair is different!). Our kinky or coily hair texture makes it harder for the oils to actually get anywhere and do anything, so we have to bring in stuff like coconut oil, argan oil, etc.

My hair is chemically relaxed and straightened, so I dont have to use as much oil. When I was natural I could pretty much use as much as I wanted with no visual change. Now, more than a quarter size dollop and it looks like greasy white people hair.

Syrinx221 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:54:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not sure about that. A million years ago in cosmetology class I learned that it's both. There's a reason we add oil and don't just brush through the oils we have.

(Source: black ish former cosmetology student)

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:57:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As far as I knew, cosmetology classes only taught one thing about 4c hair textures; How to straighten it.

Syrinx221 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yikes. We learned a lot more than that. It may have helped that the teachers and students were black.

Kitbixby ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:37:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

So: does thicker or thinner hair cause one to be more prone to live?

Edit: dammit, this is the second typo I've made today, but I'm leaving the lice where they are

vivaenmiriana ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:18:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

typically dead people don't have thick hair

edashotcousin ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:14:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just as an FYI, black people don't have greasy hair. We actually add grease to it, though recently with the natural hair movement, its less grease and more moisture. The dryness of the hair follicles is what makes it so curly (that last part is my pet theory).

man-of-God-1023 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:28:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

-pats mini-fro- thanks yo! But white people's hair actually moves ๐Ÿ˜”

Internet hug?

BackstrokeBitch ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They get lice, just a different type of em.

AlexanderTheGrave ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:40:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Besides the terrible racism in the first one, it's extra wrong because black people actually get lice far less often than white people because of the different hair and hair products typically used.

conalfisher ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:10:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

they sound absolutely wonderful, which branch of the westboro baptist church are they a part of?

leedbug ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:00:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hahahahaha!!!! I joke with my husband about how lice is a white folks problem (he's white). The only people I ever knew with lice were white. Lice can't live in our hair! Not with the products we put in it! :P

ADrunkSailorScout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:13:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My husband is also white and once he used my sheen spray instead of his hair spray by accident. Shit was soooo funny. He calls me at work like Babe what do I do?? Bahahahaha

DiamondMiner2323 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What is this

BeefSamples ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:53:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do you come from a polish family per chance. I've heard shit like that from more polish people than i care to think about

atero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If /r/atheism tried to create a caricature of religious people this would probably be it. Holy fuck.

DOS_NOOB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I kind of agree with the last one? I don't think they were put here, but as the dominant species I think that the less dominant animals should be used for what we need them for.

ngwoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What was it like being raised by the entire Republican party?

trainofabuses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Love how everyone's all like "damn, that's terrible" but then they get to the animals part and the defenses come up. Good on you for overcoming your parents' bullshit, and for thinking critically.

I_am_jacks_reddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oddly enough black people rarely get lice due to the curling nature of their hair. So idk what the hell they were thinking.

MrNaoB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Human use?

NivlacSupreme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:42:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I mean the last one is not true buuuuuut animals are useful

Bloodloon73 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:42:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

you should always put yourself first

Besides your children, in what way is this wrong

ingridelena ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

and have lice

lmao now that's a damned lie

mccreative ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair, some of those things are probably legit.

Peace_Unleashed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I understand what it's like to deal with a racist father, my mom has tried and still continues to try to convince my dad that he's essentially mental when it comes to how he feels about black people. Growing up I never really heard say much other than him saying that he just doesn't like them, but now that I'm 19 he has definitely been more open about it. The way he is has even scared me before from dating black girls, not because I don't like them but I have no idea how he would react nor do I know how he would treat them. I've always wondered how I didn't end up like him, my friend group is extremely diverse and I have friends from all walks of life but my parents are very private and to themselves

_This_Is_Magic_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:17:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, he is right about that last part, we are on top of the food chain.

1person12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:20:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm also not from the south, but it sounds like we grew up in the same household.

MemeLearning ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:21:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Black people are nasty and have lice and are different from white people, evolution is a lie

you can't argue that both are wrong.

goofball_jones ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:37:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty much the same here.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:01:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly 1 of those is even debatable sheesh

Debutt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:20:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ughhh I got the "animals are put here by God for humans to eat and use", and I was looking into those sad, dirty cows being whupped by men and felt like, "God, you fucking asshole"

standardegenerate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:25:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Black people are different from white people.

Bamith ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:27:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Boy, it's a good thing we humans aren't anim-ohgodamit.

MemoryLapse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:01:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Black people are different from white people. That one's right, at least.

doctorscurvy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:30:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What is interesting here is that headline actually prefer white people, because curly hair is harder for them to hold on to.

SD__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:26:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's "gangsta" not blacks. I've been mugged twice and both times they were black. I was walking through a black area. I got victimised just like the only black in a white area might be.

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What pisses me off is "gangsta" and it is adopted by all creeds. "Don't disrespect me man" is a sure fire way to know you are about to be stabbed by some twat who doesn't understand he is his own father.

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I agree with you about animals. Buffalo are a prime example of where it very nearly went horribly wrong.

samus1225 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:29:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a black person, I can say that black people are immune to lice. It just doesnt happen.

Maybe it's the grease in our hair

Iceklimber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:20:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

animals were put on this earth for human use.

Is this not true though? Even the endangered species are only protected to ensure potential future use.

P3rc0lat3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:25:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Now that's hilarious, because I was taught that White people had lice, and you should never lay your head on their pillows or use their hairbrushes.

I think I read somewhere that lice have an easier time latching to White people's hair as opposed to Black people's, but I don't know if that's true.

Cyno01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:21:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Black people are nasty and have lice

Actually the opposite is true, black people very very rarely get lice. I went to a 99% black elementary school, they never even bothered with head lice inspection. The boys all kept their hair too short for it to matter and the girls all used so many products and treatments the lice cant hang on. Because of the second thing i learned like my first day of school not to touch the tops of the seats on the bus or anywhere else...

redditallreddy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:29:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ivanka?!?

millicow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:31:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ugh. I'm reluctant to tell any family beyond my parents or aunts/uncles I'm vegetarian because I'm sick of being told "but that's why God gave us animals"

zondwich ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:58:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Make America great again.

officerkondo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:16:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

animals were put on this earth for human use.

How long have you been vegan?

i_izzie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:15:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Black people generally don't have lice because of the shape of their hair. Take that mom

VengefulMigit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:13:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that sounds alot like one of the Presidential candidates

HeyLookATaco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hey me too! I grew up super nice, compassionate, and a bro to all animals as a way of rebelling. Then later we moved to a big city and the dummies accidentally sent me to a predominantly black school district. I always knew my parents were backwards, but I suddenly had a chance to hang with awesome, kind people of color every day to really drive that home for me.

Being nothing like them is the best thing I've ever accomplished. I hope you escaped too.

We_Are_The_Waiting ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:53:36 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well there are differences, one of them being that white people get lice way more than black people.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:12 on December 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

sssssSSSSSWEEEEET HOME ALABAMA

cocohorse2007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit me too. Don't you just love the South?

Marcentrix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wtf? Black people don't even get lice.

[deleted] ยท -54 points ยท Posted at 23:29:04 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Abortion is wrong though.

Yeahnotquite ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 23:32:23 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In your opinion.

[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 23:37:20 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

yeah, that's true.

Yeahnotquite ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 23:38:42 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, it's not.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:03 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not trying to argue, friend.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:20:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why would you say "abortion is wrong" and not expect people to disagree with you?

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:22:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

because you're allowed to have your own opinions.

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:28:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know, but posting on a public forum something controversial you should expect differing opinions

[deleted] ยท -14 points ยท Posted at 23:35:54 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm my opinion rape is ok, so... (This is an example, I do not think rape is ok)

Yeahnotquite ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 23:37:38 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Yeah, that's not how that works. Rape is illegal, abortion isn't.

Edit- and yet another statement of actual real fact is down voted by Reddit. What in the fuck?

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:41:59 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, that's not how it works. The fact that rape is illegal isn't the reason it is wrong. That abortion is legal doesn't mean it is right. But whatever dude, not going to discuss this with you since I'm sure this is not going anywhere.

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Jayraff1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:17:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So a woman has a right to her own body and yet prostitution is illegal. Why doesn't the baby have a say for its own body. Oh wow 9 months is so long compared to a lifetime that baby would've had.

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Jayraff1 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:40:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just like a dog or any other animal cannot speak for its own self so why shouldn't I beat the hell out of it right? It can't tell me what it's thoughts are. You're calling a baby a baby, then you're calling it an embryo. Then a parasite. Then it's none of them since none are the same? Your contradicting yourself and confusing everybody. And yet this woman who did not choose to be born is now having a baby who in turn did not choose to be born. Ironic that she gets the choice now but she didn't in the womb. It's totally a freaking baby. So because the baby doesn't fully develop everything in an instant it's not technically alive? 9 months can also change her life positively. It can turn crack addicts to a wonderful mother who would die for their child. Wow you are incredibly selfish. Put a life on hold. This is someone's life you are talking about. 9 months for 80 years!!! And who says that they would be thrown into foster care or adoption. You're just saying every negative thing you can think of and throwing it in there. I didn't plan on being a dad at 20 but he's the greatest thing that ever happened to me and I'd die for him as many times as needed. I'm sorry that maybe you'll never get to know that type of love. And once again who made an argument that rape victims had a free pass? I've seen stories of rape victims who had the baby and it turned their life around. That baby was the best thing that happened to them. You see more and more stories of people who kept the babies and were happy. And yet none of people who just hate their kids.

ArgetlamThorson ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 01:05:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But the baby didn't ask to be put there. In almost all cases (rape, obviously, being the exception), the baby is there because of a choice the mother made.

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CaLaHa717 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:30:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm pro-abortion, but holy hell did you just put words in that guy's mouth.

vedagr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:06:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can say I am but this is basically what the logic that if you have sex you are automatically consenting to having a child boils down to.

Jayraff1 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 06:21:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Holy shit that has to be one of the most selfish things I've heard. Aww her feeling might be hurt. Boo fricken hoo. They suck a baby's limbs off one by one and scientifically proven that they can feel it. Show me a link to where an unborn baby is actually called a parasite. That's the first time I've heard that load of shit. And who said a child of rape doesn't matter?

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Jayraff1 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 06:49:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

http://www.mccl.org/unborn-babies-can-feel-pain.html

http://www.abortionfacts.com/facts/13 Just google it and you'll see plenty

Ok I'll admit I was wrong on the money situation. Which I didn't actually comment on. I'm from Canada so I don't know the financial problems that come with child birth.

katherinelovada ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:34:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

It is a choice when that fetus is sitting inside a woman's body, thriving off her living organs as a life source. A fetus is literally connected to and a part of a woman's body when it is unborn.

If you don't agree with abortion, cool. You don't have to have one. Shoving your opinions up another woman's uterus isn't necessary.

scared_pony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A fetus is dependent on, and connected to a woman's body, but not "a part of a woman's body"

katherinelovada ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:12:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Yes, it IS. It is literally A PART of her body if it is connected to her both in an anatomical and physiological sense. That's a fact. Anything that is attached to a woman's insides and is feeding off her body's life sustaining systems is her territory while it is still inside of her. That isn't something that is up for debate.

scared_pony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not a debate, it's science. A fetus is not "part of a woman's body", which is what you said.

"part of a woman's body" and "territory" are also two different things.

katherinelovada ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

What? It's not a debate. That's why I said it's not. A fetus having it's own set of DNA does not change the fact that it is connected to a woman's anatomical and physiological functions and depending off her life source. It is literally connected to her inside anatomical body parts, making it a part of her own anatomical and physiological functions in order for it to develop. It is a part of her body for 9 months. That is a scientific fact. Not an opinion.

When I said "territory", it was meant as an implication that it's her choice to decide what to do with the fetus.

katherinelovada ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:23:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Regardless, it doesn't even matter if you agree with me or not. This is a subject that people of opposing views typically don't see eye to eye with even during civil arguments, which is fine. You are well within your rights to disagree with abortion for whatever reason that is, so you don't have to get one. No one is forcing you to. Have a nice night.

scared_pony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:35:54 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I said nothing about my beliefs about abortion either way, I'm not interested in debating with you. you have made some huge assumptions and here you are trying to have a fight that I'm not participating in.

You have a major fallacy in your argument and that is what I've been telling you. All I've said is that a fetus is not a body part. It is not part of your body in the sense that your ear is part of your body. Sure it is connected to and dependent on a woman's body during pregnancy, but it is it's own body.

katherinelovada ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:11:21 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Okay, you replied to MY original comment arguing with my point. You willingly made that choice - it wasn't the other way around. You started the "debate" yourself. I made no assumptions. I literally said that people with opposing arguments (like we are having right now) on this topic don't tend to see eye to eye, that regardless of your beliefs - an abortion is not something you have to have, and that you are well within your rights to have your own view. I inititially concluded with that statement. I made a comment on a public forum and I understand that means people have a right to reply what they want but crying "You're trying to have a fight with me!!1!!" when you have been continuously replying to my original comment makes zero sense. There is no fight. There has been no name calling or threatening, just statements challenging what you are saying.

I never said a fetus is a "body part". I said it was simply A PART of a woman's body when it is in her womb for 9 months. There is a huge difference between saying a fetus is a woman's body part (like a foot or arm) and saying it's a part of her (being connected to her inner anatomy and physiological functions via umbilical cord) up until the birth. You learn this in any Anatomy and Physiology class during the reproduction section. I said that this isn't a matter of opinion or debate because it is a scientific fact. That is why my argument about this topic has remained firm. You can continue to argue with that but there isn't anything more I can say.

prospect12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:32:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Legality does not equal right and wrong.

prospect12 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:33:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Take responsibility for your actions. You knew pregnancy was a possibility when you had sex.

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prospect12 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:16:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you aren't prepared to have a child don't have sex.

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prospect12 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:31:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not just about women men are responsible too.

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prospect12 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:40:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm mot saying its fun I'm saying that the inconvenience to the woman is not worth more than the child's life.

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prospect12 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:52:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

An oak seed hasn't been fertilized. An embryo is. The seed is like the egg.

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prospect12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How do you define alive? Is a doctor God because he performs a c- section?

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prospect12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A child isn't sentient for the first year of its life.

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prospect12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

By your logic a baby could not be born prematurely. It just doesn't add up.

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prospect12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A child cannot live outside the body on its own for several years.

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prospect12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not arguing I'm providing reasons you are wrong.

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prospect12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You have nothing to support what you're saying. I'm done with you.

[deleted] ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 01:28:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The fact that you are being so down voted is so depressing and sad I don't even have words to describe it. It really makes me sad for humanity.

CaLaHa717 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:31:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If fake Internet points make you sad for humanity, you might need to get away from the computer for a bit.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:53:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you think the Internet points are what I find sad you are the one who needs to get away from the computer for a bit. Think a little bit harder.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:54:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:13:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Okey man, you're clearly a genius. I'm sorry I tried to contradict you in anyway. What was I thinking? You even clearly know what a mirror is and everything.

bluffton101 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:42:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

funny how /u/AlwaysDownvoted__- says polarizing things

[deleted] ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 04:48:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"If you play violent videogames you become a murderer."

JinxsLover ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:51:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My Aunt tried this crap on me once I instantly responded with "weird how video games have been played more in the last ten years then any time in human history and yet crime rates continue to drop? She shut up about it after that

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:59:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you watch slasher films you'll becoming a serial killer ๐Ÿ˜”

summitorother ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:48:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you read violent comic books you'll become a degenerate.

AwkwardNoah ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:49:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's true

Daleks_in_space ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:03:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If this was true, most teenage boys would be expert gynaecologists.

Prepareyourecolon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I still haven't played a single console game for this reason.

AwkwardNoah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Am gamer Only have weird hentia wet dreams Hmmmm

angel_of_death369 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:43 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shit, ive been playing Stardew Valley. I should start a farm based on that logic

KnockMellyKnock ยท 3540 points ยท Posted at 00:30:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Things I had to teach myself once I left my home.

  1. It's not okay to let dog shit sit around in the house.

  2. It's not okay for bird shit to be smeared everywhere. Walls, chairs, clothes.

  3. It's not okay to buy a pet, love it for two weeks, then get a new one.

  4. It's not okay to buy a pet and get rid of it because you can't be bothered to potty train it.

  5. I was not put onto this Earth to protect, take care of, or clean up after my mother.

  6. It's not normal to not feed your children, and then rag on them when they do eat, calling them fat.

  7. Hitting children isn't okay, and I didn't deserve it.

  8. Sexual abuse isn't something normal that people just say is bad (like cussing). And it didn't matter that I didn't fight, I was still 6 and it was still rape.

  9. It's not going to lead to a happy life if you live it expecting everyone to judge you harshly.

  10. It will also not lead to a happy life if you judge everyone you meet and deem "less worthy".

I've gone to multiple therapists and psychiatrists. I have a laundry list of mental illnesses due to my childhood, and I still have a lot of relearning I need to do in my life.

[deleted] ยท 1003 points ยท Posted at 01:39:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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KnockMellyKnock ยท 901 points ยท Posted at 02:06:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haha, thank you. Not yet, I'm not. But I am going to therapy.

Varret ยท 163 points ยท Posted at 04:17:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You know, I'm just a stranger out of the internet, but I wish the best for you. You may be down some times. But remember that you have people around the world(at least one person in Poland, the country that's away from everywhere)that wish you the best!

mlgbacklot ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 06:29:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Me too, I wish you the best buddy. You deserve all the happiness you can get.

M3n747 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:10:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We meet again!

Varret ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:40:20 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How's wife and kids?

M3n747 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:54:36 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'll tell you when I find any. :)

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[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:12:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Agreed. After all, your mother/father is just another person.

CaptainTachyon ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 03:31:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well then I wish you the best of luck in getting better!

idkwhattoputasmyname ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:30:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But you're on your way to being ok and that's awesome :)

SerendipityHappens ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:55:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like you've come a long way. You're doing good.

birdy22 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:56:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good for you! You didn't deserve any of that. Really wish the best for you.

iwillc ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:23:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You! You are strong. You are brave. You CAN do anything. I am proud of you. HUG

IWearSuits ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:33:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Keep at it. We're all rooting for you.

With-a-Cactus ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:38:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We believe in you and there's always a place where you can talk if you need it.

Nieros ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:19:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hey friend, you've got this.

Etane ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:16:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Like all the others, just want to wish you the best of luck, and I hope you continue to have a life of improving happiness! We all deserve that much

leedbug ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:56:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Keep it up! You made it this far. Some aren't so lucky. Stay strong. :)

hvrock13 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:23:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Struggling with that being judged and judging harshly thing also, something I picked up from my parents. Dad and his dad had expectations of a man and to them I felt like everything I did was judged harshly, which turned into feeling like everyone is judging me. And my mom always finds something bad about people that have done anything that even slightly negatively effects me. Very overprotective like that. So I picked up that trait of hers too.

Now I'm afraid of showing how troubled I am, and afraid to really tell the whole truth about it to them or anyone for fear of being judged as someone to stay away from or look down on, and I hide that truth by being that judgemental person. I hate it, and it makes me dislike myself that I'm not doing better than that. So that leads to a lot of inner conflict.

I also just started going back to see someone I have met with off and on over the years for anxiety and depression reasons, and hopefully this time I can improve. So I know how that struggle is, being unhappy. And I hope your therapy sessions turn out beneficial, and just know that I'll be rooting for ya. It's a tough life to live, especially when that lack of happiness and the everyday struggle to want to be someone other than that is so deeply part of who you are.

tech_0912 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:02:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was hoping to see therapy involved somewhere. I can relate somewhat to this. My aunt had a really bad habit of letting her cats shit all over the house and never would clean up, so the smell permeated every orifice in the house. I'm glad I don't have to be there.

AlmightyClay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:25:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Stay strong

gingerly_said ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:24:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

hug

itsjustathrowawaybro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Call spca on her ass?

zoom56 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:25:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My roomies and I all share similar stories so we ended up talking about a few points you made that i brought up after i read your comment. Thanks for sharing.

redditallreddy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:21:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

At least, today, you have won the internet competition!

(Seriously, have a minor amount of the same things in my background. I was able to get over it. You are getting professional help and, so, I believe you can, too. It takes work, and, for me, I still get dragged into some crazy from time to time. Also, my freakin' 15 year old dog has bladder and bowel problems, so...#1 is tough in my household, but just cause he's a sneaky little shit. :)

Feel great and live well.)

LEEVINNNN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:07:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Keep at it friend, we all believe in you <3

Galactic_Explorer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

<3

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It takes time. It's a long road but it will get better with each day that passes. If you ever feel frustrated remember how far you've come! You'll get there buddy :). I'm sorry life's been so unfair to you.

i_izzie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:14:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're going in the right direction and that's all we can do

ofthedauntless ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You will be, just give it time :)

conduit122 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:03:27 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

REDDIT BELIEVES IN YOU

Cobalt_97 ยท 554 points ยท Posted at 02:08:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

:( I'm rooting for you

KnockMellyKnock ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 02:11:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you. :)

Enloi ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:44:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Every single upvote you've had in this thread is another person rooting for you. You'll get there.

ILickWieners ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 03:57:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

" It's not okay to buy a pet, love it for two weeks, then get a new one. It's not okay to buy a pet and get rid of it because you can't be bothered to potty train it. "

I know this too well.

HopelesslyLibra ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 02:30:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

it's reading shit like this that makes me call my parents at night to tell them how thankful I am for how I was treated.

I'm sending some love your way, here's to hoping for a speedy recovery/getting better !

nousernaem ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:28:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck I'm 18 and going through all of that right now and I'm afraid I'll lose the strength to endure all of this . Life's fucked up sometimes yo but I hope you feel better

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:57:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You've recognized the problems and are taking steps to correct them. I do believe you're on the right path and I also believe you have the strength to follow it through.

Help_I_think_Im_Emo ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:18:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wish you the best of luck on getting better. And I don't mean expecting you to be 100% for the rest of your life, I mean you having more good days than bad days. I'm rooting for ya' ;)

stingray20201 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:20:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can. . . Can I buy you a drink, that shit's is too much mate. I wanna help

KnockMellyKnock ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:37:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haha, no thank you. But I appreciate the gesture! I cannot handle alcohol.

AnticPosition ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:58:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Coffee? Tea?

Frommerman ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:18:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good luck.

Sounds like you're due some.

[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 03:09:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Please go check out r/raisedbynarcissists and get support there. Sounds a lot like what some of these people go through.

MyLadyWinter ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:43:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sorry you had to go through all of that. I hope you find happiness

Mu69 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:51:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Let dog shit sit around the house? Wtf

alexnader ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 07:26:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As someone who checked off all of those except for 8, maybe I can help clear things up.

Picture this: you're mother is an animal hoarder, and all round hoarder. Your house contains a total of 13 cats, 1 dog, 30 fish, 20 birds, and 15 chickens. What's that? Nope, you don't live on a farm silly, just a regular suburban house.

Although you never asked for a single one of those animals, you somehow ended up being responsible for them all. As much as you try, they're animals, and end up shitting and pissing everywhere they can. You try to clean up, but by the time you're finished, another shit has appeared. Eventually, after about a decade of this, you've easily become accustomed to not only the smell, but letting the shits "sit" while you get yourself into the correct state of mind to deal with the constant flow of shit and piss.

Just like those dishes you'll for sure do in an hour or two, but then don't get to for a few days.

Then one day, after you've graduated, moved out, and gotten a job, you visit your old home, ready to introduce your fiancรฉe to your parents.

BTW, fiancรฉe's mother is a neat freak, who won't even let you out of the shower with wet feet, for fear of the "footprints" it might leave. Funny how life works out.

You get to the front door, swing it open and... the stench of month old animal shit hits you in the face. You see the smears on the floor, caked with hair, urine, and feces. "My God, what is that smell?" she asks. You can't answer. You know exactly what that is, but for the first time in 20 years, you're seeing, no smelling it, through someone else's eyes.

Later on, as your mother casually explains to you: "Oh, we blocked that room off because the dog took a shit in there, and we couldn't find it (amongst the piles of papers, trash, clothes, toys...) so to stop the smell from spreading, we decided to just stop using the room altogether".

You look down at the floor, unsure you'll ever be able to make eye contact with your fiancรฉe again, because you've just heard what that might sound like to someone who hasn't lived like that most of their life. You're finally aware that you never really had a normal childhood, and that no, leaving cat/dog shit sitting around the house, is a WTF moment to some people.

getinmyx-wing ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:10:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

.... that was the thing that stood out the most to you, from this list?

Grayslake_Gisox ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:21:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hey man, it'll be okay.

ThatJuiceHead ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:06:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Stay strong buddy

pogtheawesome ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:35:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Damn, I feel you, bro. Really similar situation. Take care of yourself <3

photocist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:41:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good luck my friend

fuckyesnewuser ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:57:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Damn. I'm sad that you had to go through all that. I hope you get better eventually. And I won't suggest you to look for support in any subreddit, just hope that you find a good therapist.

izgoyev_bessmertna ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:10:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One day at a time, man. Good luck to you.

dezeiram ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:42:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

:( if you need a new friend you can PM me. I'm glad you're going to therapy. It's the best thing that ever happened to me.

rainqueen ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:21:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You poor thing, I'm so sorry that was your childhood :(

TMeredithC ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:42:19 on November 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hope things get better for you.

KnockMellyKnock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:25:13 on November 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you

nurseguywhatever ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Going from the guy that fucks rubber ducks to this is why I never go this deep into the comments. I hope everything works out for you though. I also hope whoever did this is in the bottom of an ocean or something.

tiltsk8t ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like my girlfriend's mother, father, and brother to an extent. Rotting for you man. Also, go fuck yourself Penny you thieving, maniacal, sociopathic, homeless, white trash cunt.

sasquatch_yeti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, but 9 and 10. Alot of people without your history go to thier grave having never figured those out. You have that figured out already! You are on your way.

Yelesa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I want to give you a hug.

xiape ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Random internet stranger but I read this.

You have more to relearn than others, but it sounds like you're alive and recovering

Hesione ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you for sharing. I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you got out and are working on yourself. Sending you love and strength.

ActaCaboose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit! And here I was thinking that my childhood was awful! I hope that your life has taken a turn for the better!

Funnylilbunny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm very glad you got away from that situation. I hope things have gotten better for you nowadays!

banuo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:14:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Woah... I... I'm sending a big hug...

FireAsdf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sorry you had to go through so much shit, If you ever feel sad or anything you can message me (Probably won't give you a magic answer but I'm good at listening to people and helping them to get up) If I could I would give you a hug, you seem like a good person that genuinely had to go through so much shit for no reason.

Cheer up, you'll get over that and live a happy happy life :)

durdyg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Damn. Sorry for this. If you want a quick therapeutic overview here's a quick summary for behavioral modification of self-image:

  • Your personality is a composite of belief, attitudes, and habits
  • Your personality is NOT who you are
  • Your personality seeks to perpetuate itself and resists change
  • Your Inner-Self knows happiness
  • Your personality simply must harmonize with your Inner-Self for true happiness
You_Stealthy_Bastard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Jess_than_three ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm so sorry. I hope things get better. :(

ncfears ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

hugs Hopre you're doing well and always feel free to use me if you need an anonymous ear to vent to! (No really, my mental health relies on the mental health of others)

ledditlememefaceleme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Looks like I got some evil souls I need to harvest. Good news is I can sell them to the burning hells for a tasty profit, and they'll probably be used for firewood, if they're lucky!

HiMyNameIs_REDACTED_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ha ha ha holy fuck.

cantxtouchxthis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:51:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's amazing to see someone else's life paralleled my own.

Hang in there friend.

unothatsrite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're brave. I genuinely mean it. Taking care of yourself by seeking mental health professionals and deciding to lead your life in a different way isn't an easy feat. I hope you have a loving support system

eyeofmine79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sending good vibes your way, stranger! You deserve to be happy, fulfilled, and loved...I know nothing about you but I have a feeling you will find your way!

mainoumi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hope you know, deep in you but also clearly in your mind, that you never was the one in fault. But what I want to say is that, whatever how long your journey with this will be, the fact that you was able to write all this prove that you're now stronger enough for to survive. So, never be too afraid (because a little afraid is normal) of what you'll have to face.
You'll have a happy live and can construct a happy family, giving them all the love you've missed in your youth. I know it because my (late) wife also had a really shitty youth (not the same, but kind of) and still was the better and most loving wife and mother I've seen during the 45 years of my life.

Ravn000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:08:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sorry you had to go through all of those things! I hope you're doing a lot better now, friend! Have a good day today and feel free to pm if you ever just want to get something off your chest!

getinmyx-wing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus, OP. That's rough. I wish you the best of luck finding the peace you deserve. You're more than the bad things that have happened to you. They don't have to define you. I'm glad you're working toward a better head space.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Right there with you. Sounds like we had the same kind of mom.

_This_Is_Magic_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:15:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why the fuck is every kid raped in USA? In my muslim family we do not have those kind of problems.

Infra-Oh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:20:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You somehow made it out and you're actively getting help. I don't even really know you but I admire you and I'm rooting for you.

losnardos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:23:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good for you for not just getting out but for seeing it clearly enough to not perpetuate it onto someone else

heronumberwon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:31:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Damn

Dorfalicious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:44:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You know what: pointing all these things out and knowing they're wrong is HUGE. You are clearly moving forward. I sincerely hope things continue to go better:)

Antarcaticaschwea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:50:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dude my parents fucked me up too. Not on the same level as you, but still pretty bad. I'm sorry you went through this, I'm currently in some heavy therapy trying to get functioning again. Love you man (or woman).

LadyGreen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:11:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's wonderful that you're going to therapy and realize that this is neither normal, nor right. I hope your life continues to improve and you never have to experience anything like that again. You're worth more than that!

Marsha_Brady ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hey man, it's showing your comment is 6 hours old. But I wanted to say, you will over come! I grew up very similar to your life. My mother was an emotionally, physically, and psychologically abusive. My sister were thin and beautiful, I was fat (I wasn't but she made me believe I was). She cut me with knives, stabbed me with an ink pen in my hand..that space between your thumb and forefinger...and a plethora of other things. She beat my older sister as well, but the little sister got away with everything. I don't ever remember her getting so much as a slap on the wrist. Guess who has a drug problem and can't stay out jail?

She was, and still is, a horrible mother. I tried to reconcile but her poison was still too strong. I have zero contact with her and I feel amazing! But somehow I knew through all of that I wasn't any of what she said I was. I didn't let her poison me. I didn't let her win. I fought her. Mentally and physically. I love who I am. Therapy didn't work for me, they tried to tell me I had to feel anger and I had to feel pained, but I didn't. I was too determined to prove to her I am beautiful and I am smart. I had so much talent that she beat out of me. But guess what? I'm an adult and I can go back and try to learn to do those things!

I make things. I take old jewelry I find at estate sales and make new things. I make rosaries with old pearls and stones. I make prayer beads for other beliefs. I make cute little pouches and bags to put them in and give to people. I sell some as well. I make bracelets and earrings. I make pillows out of old shirts, like a memory pillow made from a loved one that's passed away. I even make little dolls out of baby sleepers for mothers that lost their babies. It's usually made from something they gave me that the little one wore. I've started to make purses and bags out of old jeans I run across. And I make slings and cast covers...I can't seem to make clothes though...most of what I make, I make up on the spot without patterns.

I also used to play the violin, but I quit when my mother pawned my instrument for bingo money. I'm currently looking for one to try and learn to play again. I could play most anything I heard from the radio. I used to sing. I was told I was fat, ugly and needed to just hide in a closet. Guess who is far and ugly now? I had five kids and recently got diagnosed with COPD and severe RA and can't exercise like I once could. I didn't sit on my lazy ass and eat myself into disability. I'm 43. I have gray hair. I have a fabulous life that's been a hard journey. I love who I am and how I look.

Someday, you will feel this feeling and you will never be the same again. You will win the fight. You will overcome your mother. You will be happy. You are beautiful. You are loved. You are someone. I hope with all my heart you will learn this and know it to be true!

Peace be with you!

Anubisghost ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're amazing for rising above all that.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:34:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Progress. :)

Mr_Canard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:41:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Damn that's some impressively bad parenting.

Plaguesage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:51:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The life you lead is still ahead of you, just waiting to be...lived. yeah. It's hard man, people can be really ignorant about mental health issues. I still have things I want to live for! Stay strong

Fluffboyjr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:53:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I love to talk to people but I can't help but judge them sometimes. It's usually when i'm in a shitty mood that I get like this though I'll still try to talk to them regardless of what I think of them and often change my perception of them that way. Almost everyone I meet (I work in a small shop) I ask "You been alright?" and that usually gets them talking about themselves even for just a short period. It's made my life so much easier learning that speaking to people, even in the bus stop, makes things much easier to deal with. It took me a tonne of depression, anxiety and time to realise this. I used to be such a quiet person and I still am when I'm a bit down though it's becoming less and less.

SD__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:01:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everyone has a button that needs to be pressed. It might be some little rich kid who laments the loss of her dolly or it might "Arbeit Macht Frei" in the gas chambers.

.

It's the reset button. It would be convenient to say it would take away the memories but it will not. It can, however, allow those memories to be filed away in a place where they don't come to the surface too often.

I hope you find your reset button.

TempestSeraphim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:01:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know you posted this awhile ago, but I just want to mention here that I feel you. I'm super shy about bringing it up because it's so embarrassing, beyond the physical and emotional abuse that I had to endure, growing up in a shit filled house is something that I really wish I could forget. I don't think most people can really fathom that (assuming you were probably in the same boat) I literally had to tip toe and lift my pajama pant legs so that they didn't slide in dog/cat piss and so I didn't step in dog crap when walking from my bedroom to any other point in the house.

Now as a 22 year old homeowner, I completely have to retrain myself on how to clean a house. That sounds like the most ridiculous thing, but it's a stupid issue for me. I have three dogs that I love dearly and my husband has to remind me that I'm not turning into my mother when one of the puppies has an accident in the house.

I_h8_yo_marshmallows ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:10:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have similar background and I keep thinking what I want to hear. Just that, you are doing fucking fantastically, be proud of who you are, you are stronger than your past, you are important and beautiful. They could not see how amazing you are, that's their lose, you owe them nothing. Surround yourself with positive and loving people. Sorry if those words are unhelpful, best of luck with the therapy xx

MaximillianKaspar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:11:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Woah. That's pretty shitty. Hope everything turns for you and life improves.

If you need anyone to talk to, I'm here - just inbox.

Nemacro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:18:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm going to have to disagree with #7 personally.

Vanah_Grace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:19:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

FWIW this internet stranger is proud of you for owning your issues and taking the steps to try and sort them out. That's a huge first step you've taken. Just keep swimming darlin!

GenocideSolution ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:22:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Reading this list makes me want to go to therapy. Jesus.

theharribokid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:45:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks for sharing, I can't imagine this is easy to talk about

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:04:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There is a special place in hell for parents like this. I am so sorry you had to go through that.

MaddingtonFair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:31:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had the eating thing too. My mother was(is) anorexic as a teen and never lost the mindset. After having kids she put on weight she never lost, so insulting/commenting on every bite we are was some sort of amusing game to her I guess. Joke's on her - I've always been underweight PURELY from genetics (have always eaten whatever I want) so I never took the bait and fell in to her self-loathing trap. Not about eating anyway...

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:18:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you ever need a hug, call me.

lofi76 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:29:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a mom, I am so sorry. You didn't deserve that shit. No child does!

thereaderrunt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:37:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sorry to hear about all the shit you've had to deal with. Good luck and I hope you'll be okay. X

FezzesAreCool123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:30:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shit, dude, that sucks. I was just going to say not having to wash clothes at 40 degrees

gigabytegary ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:32:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Big heartfelt hugs to you. Simply getting help means you're already doing way better. Here's to you and many years of happiness and well-being ahead of you.

Viperbunny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:37:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am so sorry. I have two young kids and reading your list made me want to cry. Keep working with your therapist. You deserve better and I hope that you are able to find some peace and be happy.

I_Murder_Pineapples ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks for posting. I am so sad this happened in your childhood, but when I see another "extreme survivor" out there it makes me feel good that some of us did survive. This is not to threadjack your comment, just to let you know it's possible.

At age 5 I was raped repeatedly by my grandfather and it put me in the hospital and I nearly died from sepsis due to a fistula. There was no national CPS in those days (1966) so my mother just lied and said someone must have "done it to me" in the bathroom at school, and they sent me right back after sewing me up a bit. My mother left the state with me midway through the followup treatments I was supposed to receive. I did not heal correctly.

I had a type of PTSD amnesia for most of my life. At times it would start to clear and I wanted to begin talking about what happened, but I didn't know how. Back in the 80s and 90s when I first began to seek therapy, it was common for therapists to jump straight to "Dad" whenever a survivor started to explore issues of sexual abuse. My dad didn't sexually abuse or rape me - he was no saint, but compared to my mother he was, so I was for many years never able to open up and deal with the issues. I would just shut down again.

I was fortunate to see a wonderful therapist who listened, and I was able to clear up a lot of the side effects of the PTSD. I wish you all the best, /u/KnockMellyKnock.

Jacewoop23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:11:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

sounds like you've had a rough life.

CerealKillerOats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:18:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do you need a hug?

DjDrowsyBear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:32:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is a raw deal you got in life. I hope you the best.

I also hope your pet friends are helping you through it!

pnk6116 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:13:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The worst is over now every day is a step towards recovery even if it's a shitty day. You're doing all the right things seeing the mental health professionals, stay strong and in time things will get better.

I'm rooting for you!

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm so fucking sorry. I wish you the best.

operadiva31 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Recovery is a daily journey. You've got this! <3

conduit122 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:35 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This post got progressively worse to the point where I couldn't even handle it.

Ae3qe27u ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:19:45 on September 2, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
macrouge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:37:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

9 hurts

PluckyWren ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same. It'll take time, but you can. Wishing you happiness.

stingray20201 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:20:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can. . . Can I buy you a drink, that shit's is too much mate. I wanna help

jello_fever ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:49:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

wow way to just whip that out there

Asdayasman ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:23:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hitting children isn't okay

Hitting children is fine with reason. Beating them is not.

cursed_deity ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 03:13:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

way to bring us all down

shrike279 ยท 923 points ยท Posted at 01:18:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That obama is NOT a gay muslim dictator from Kenya.

DanFanOfficial ยท 321 points ยท Posted at 02:58:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

TIL

SomeAnonymous ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:18:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And people say reddit isn't educational!

edwartica ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 03:12:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well of course. Everyone knows he's not gay!

EyesOfEnder ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 05:45:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Idk, if you ask the right parts of the internet, Michelle Obama definitely has a penis

spiritcrusher77 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:33:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Obviously, how else would his wife be transgender?

chrispy_bacon ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 06:22:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Have seen his spouse?

edwartica ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'd bet more that Laura bush has a penis than the current first lady.

wrathy_tyro ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 06:01:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

WAIT WHAT

THEN WHY DID I VOTE FOR HKM

[deleted] ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 02:18:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You must know my grandfather...

pike184 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:05:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is your grandpa the source of all those emails my uncle sends ,y mother, and I?

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:20:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

maybe...

AndyVale ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:08:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But his middle name is HUSSAIN and he has lizard eyes. Checkmate atheist.

LesseFrost ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:58:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Found Donald Trump Jr's Reddit username.

OMGitsKatV ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:57:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

well DUH lizard people are dirty atheists

BrutalWarPig ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:18:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well now you tell me. What am I gonna do with all these beer cozys and fleshlight pens.

ASUSGAMER ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:22:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

john cena breaks through wall Are you sure about that /s^

PlsWai ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:14:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Kool-Aid man comes through other wall.

BeefSamples ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:45:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The juggernaut blasts through the closed door

Getfader ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 05:07:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Deadpool breaks the fourth wall.

Male3Dante ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:17:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This. This right here is why I keep coming back to reddit

PlsWai ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:16:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The 4 karma i got from my comment is why keep coming here.

the_sloth_bear ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:09:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do we happen to have the same parents?

BeefSamples ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hey, are you related to me. I'm pretty sure you're part of my family.

Kareus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:04:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

they taught you that he was... or that he wasnt?

MacheteSanta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:19:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're right. He isn't gay.

AgenKolar66 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:33:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

WHAT? He isn't?

Cyno01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:27:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Oh Hawaiis not a real state, like Texas, now Texas, thats a state."

"Yes, Texas is a state. But Bush is from Connecticut."

oliverbm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:40:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks Obama

pixelmeow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:26:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You must know some of my family.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm happy that at least I had to scroll for a long time before I got to such a post

januhhh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:43:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why did you decide to unlearn this?

Zardif ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:53:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My sister keeps finding racist boyfriends, I'm not sure I'll associate with her much when I leave this city. I don't like how she condones that behavior.

TheDemonCat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:05:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait, he's not?

Doctah_Whoopass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:58 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If obama is supposed to cause the end of the world and destrcution of america, he better hurry it up!

idothingsheren ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:54:16 on September 12, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, he's bisexual! Get your facts straight!

Joshua102097 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Of course not he's a facist commie who wants to destroy america /s

ImAFiggit ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 04:36:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty sure he's straight. Other than that though? Fair play.

3jt ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:05:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

TIL

Kitbixby ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:00:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, he is from Kenya, as in the sense he does have family from there. But not born there no. As for gay, he could be closeted. I'm not actually sure if he has stated he has religious beliefs or not so he could be Muslim, or an atheist for all it matters. As for the dictatorship thing, we won't know until it's time for him to step down. I do think that his push for banning the AR-15 (which is neither a fully automatic nor an assault weapon since they can only fire as fast as your finger pulls the trigger) is pointless--look at how well the war on drugs is going.

jLypLyp ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Gay...probably not but so what if he's gay?...?? Dictator...the future is moving into the present... from Kenya...it don't matter, his mom was US citizen... Muslim...he does lean towards it but i think he's more a humanist... and again..why does it matter? muslim is Not a Race you defenders of Obama...

CasinCirdain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:07:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shh, it's okay, he's gonna be gone in a few months. Stiff upper lip, chap.

Dralian ยท 358 points ยท Posted at 23:40:24 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

That it was normal to take naked pictures of a preteen begging them to stop. Forcing a child to kiss you with an open mouth? Also normal!

Believing that it was normal led me to conclude that the world was horrible.

Master_xk ยท 145 points ยท Posted at 03:29:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sorry to read that, I hope you are fine now.

Dralian ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 04:24:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm still working on it.

RoundLakeBoy ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:36:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Keep at it, you will get there.

pureparadise ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 04:05:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is why I hate humans, How do people think shit like that is okay?

Dralian ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 04:48:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In my mom's case, I'm male and maybe she thought that made me deserving of it. I don't know. She's a fuckup and I don't talk to her anymore.

pureparadise ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 04:58:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikd0ZYQoDko

This maybe hard to watch and the title and first half are odd but it conveys the message that sexual assault agaisnt males is often overlooked and seen as trivial.

You need to know that what you went through is not trivial but something that must be looked at more often and addressed as equally as other cases of sexual abuse. I'm sorry and I hope you are doing better.

IWillNotBeHarmed ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:22:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Did we live the same life?! Jk There were no pictures. Just detailed measurements.

DarksteelPenguin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:14:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's even creepier in some way...

volatile_chemicals ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:05:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, the world is kinda horrible. But it's also pretty cool. It mostly depends on whether or not this kind of shit happens to you.

Dralian ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:45:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It was confusing because it really can be awful, but I thought most people were okay with what happened to me. It's not that awful, and that's a recent revelation

BeefSamples ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:56:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jeeze. I'm sorry. I hope your life is better now

ka_hime ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:24:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry this happened to you. I saw that you're in therapy and I hope this is helping you.

I wish you the best and good luck my stranger friend~

hiotewdew ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:47:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Damn. Press charges for child pornograhpy.. If you want.

Dralian ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:35:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It was in the early 90s and I ripped up the only print I found so I don't think that's an option.

TaylorS1986 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:36:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus fucking Christ... :-(

kilroylegend ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:27:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

:(

ImAFiggit ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:45:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's reading things like these that makes me wish that it was easier to get away with killing degenerates like that.

I really don't like people, simply because there are cases like these that have no redemption in them whatsoever.

I hope your life's gone uphill from there, and that you get the help you need.

Dralian ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 04:51:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Please don't kill my mom before I have the chance to destroy her. I'm in therapy and building to the point where I'm strong enough to go public and make everyone shut the hell up about what a great mother she was once and for all.

NivlacSupreme ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 05:58:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

can we kill her after that? sorry, it's been 15 minutes since our last angry mob.

Eggsd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:21:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Where my pitchfork emporium copy pasta

CricketorTicket ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:30:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's awesome! I'm wishing you the best and hope that telling the truth will help you heal.

I_h8_yo_marshmallows ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:13:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Omg so much this! My mum plays the victim card to everyone she meets.

Ejunco ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:16:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Horrible what you went through I'm wishing you the best!

ImAFiggit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:45:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good for you. That's one of the best things you can do for yourself. Just don't let revenge go too far.

Dralian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:52:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think of it more as letting her carry all this weight for a change. It isn't mine and I'm tired of carrying it.

Severinx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:52:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Um, this is not okay.

mikeymikeymikey1968 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:26:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm a photographer and a father and I want to punch both your parents in the head.

Dralian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Imagine how I felt when I realized that I'm a massage therapist because the touching was my favorite part. The next shift I worked after that one was an awkward one.

RREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:02 on December 3, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

to be fair, the world is horrible. but there are plenty of good people to be found, don't forget that.

pkoni ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 02:51:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that people from India/pakistan do not have tails.

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ theonecalledzach ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 02:52:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can... Can I get a story for this one?

unseen-streams ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:56:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Something to do with the half-monkey god Hanuman, probably.

dirtydenier ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:39:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Kid with a tail lives in India.

mensch_uber ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:12:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair, India it is the country to go to for similar oddities. Don't know why, whether its a kid that cries diamonds (fake) or a mutation that lets a kid see in the dark like a feline (not fake) or an octopus kid (not fake), India seems to be the place for it.

Lilscribby ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:44:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

octopus kid (not fake)

What?

DarksteelPenguin ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:12:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Probably a case of conjoined twins, resulting in a child with 1-2 heads, 2-4 arms and 2-4 legs.

Lilscribby ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:49:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Gnarly.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:05:52 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Lilscribby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:52 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's terrifying. I feel so bad for that kid's parents.

mensch_uber ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:20:19 on August 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

sorry for the late response, but it boils down to a human looking baby with a mutation/genetic defect where they have limbs out the wazoo coming off their torso. hindu's have a god with multiple limbs (krishna?), it made waves in the news.

all i remember is seeing about it, it's been years. but i do know russia did a lot of atom bomb tests in their surrounding countries to the south. like khazakstan, the country of borat. "very nice". there was a vice report a few years back about how laws were being (passed or challenged) about khazaks making it internationally known they were khazak, because their genetics were so fucked, they would likely have a baby that was not "normal". it was their bikini atoll. and i remember at the time thinking, well there thats why.

a pic does exist. a normal looking baby, but with too many limbs coming off it's torso. was investigated at the time, found to be not fake. not sure if the child survived, or for how long

mymilkbiscuit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:21:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

India's kind of a mixed bag of third world locations and ideals mixed with first world amenities, so it makes sense that we see a lot more of it vs. the remote areas of like Cambodia or some shit.

rockybond ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:37:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ha jokes on you, typing with it now!

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:27:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

^ second this

kirator ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:08:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is this a thing? Never heard of this before. Maybe it's because I'm from Pakistan.

the_sloth_bear ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:26:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do your have a tail?

half-idiot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:55:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

C'mon dude we totally do have tails

Juicedcow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:26:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Im actually curious about this.

iforgotmyoldusernaym ยท 1109 points ยท Posted at 23:08:44 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

'Respect your elders'. I somewhat get the logic behind it, but age certainly isn't indicative of character- and therefore age should not = respect. Like congrats, you have lived longer than me.

FPSGamer48 ยท 1146 points ยท Posted at 00:55:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep. There's a quote that always reminds me that elders don't HAVE to be respected.

"What would grandma say?"

"Something racist, probably."

[deleted] ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 03:49:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My Great Aunt looked at my yearbook for my senior year of high school and she had recently had several strokes with difficulty speaking, but when she spotted a picture of this black girl I was friends with, she struggled, but finally said, "She's...uh...COLORED!"

Andolomar ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 07:21:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My South African great-aunt came too stay once. It was many years after Apartheid but old habits die hard.

We were in Boots, a pharmaceutical store, and she goes over to my mother and says "ve must leef".

My mother is like, 'what, why?'

"Ve must leef, zere is a bleek in ze store!"

She also once said "Jacob Zuma does not know vat he iz doing wiz zis country".

I put that down to racism then too, but now it's starting to look like she was right about Jacob "I showered the AIDS off" Zuma.

hotchrisbfries ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:14:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe appreciated, but not always respected

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:33:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah Grandma I appreciate the recession. THAANKS!

FPSGamer48 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:17:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly

GenocidalNinja ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 04:10:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So you're going to appreciate her racist comments instead of respecting her as a person and the experiences she went through? I know I'm strawmanning, but all I'm really saying is that your statement was worded weirdly.

hotchrisbfries ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 04:18:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Appreciate that you have a grandma, not that you have to respect their opinions or outlooks.

GenocidalNinja ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:08:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ah, I see. Thanks.

HawkWoman ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:55:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I started dating a Lebanese guy when my grandmother was in a progressed stage of Alzheimers. That was fun.

WeissWyrm ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:51:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm just imagining you walking into Grandma's room every 24 hours or so with your boyfriend. That sounds hilarious.

antimanscaping ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:55:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There is a quote in Hocus Pocus by Kurt Vonnegut that is similar. This isn't word for word just off memory. "In fast changing times like these grandfathers are bound to be wrong about everything." For anyone interested it's a really good book that I have found to be highly quotable.

axeteam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

and that is when you get slapped, kids.

HarryWang94 ยท 277 points ยท Posted at 01:11:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think people tend to confuse being courteous with being respectful. I try to be courteous to people but that doesn't mean everyone has my respect.

As someone in the military, we're always told to respect the rank. I think it's a load of crap. I'll be courteous to someone and salute them if necessary but I'm not going to automatically respects someone because of a gold bar on their shoulder.

Brewsleroy ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 02:08:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

During my time while Enlisted, I found that many Officers don't realize how respect is a two way street. Meaning they would often treat us like crap while expecting us to be polite and respectful to them at all times.

HarryWang94 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:09:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit, completely agree. Just finished a contract with the military today and the attitude of the CO and the XO was to treat all Officer Cadets/Naval Cadets like total shit because "it was part of the process". At the same time, we were expected to basically suck up to them and kiss ass.

Basically, I was hired as a low-ranking officer to be treated like shit because that's expected? That's utter shit.

Brewsleroy ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:11:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's the Dazed and Confused Theory. They got shit on so now they want their turn to shit on someone. Which leads to Officers that got shit on and now want their turn to shit on someone else.

LvLupXD ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:18:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For a bunch of tough military types, they sound like a bunch of babies

Brewsleroy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:50:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You vastly overestimate how tough the average person in the military is. It's a giant High School. I've met some crappy people in my civilian career but they don't hold a candle to how petty, backstabby, gossipy, bullying, just plain terrible people I met while serving in the military. Imagine you have a terrible boss. They bitch and complain about every task that gets done. Constantly belittles his employees, makes them clean up literal shit if they mess up. But you can quit as a civilian. Your only option in the military is suck it up. The higher ups know they have you completely trapped and they absolutely use it to their advantage.

Bloodloon73 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:50:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Somebody has to respect somebody first if it's a situation where one or both feel their respect is to be earned, and our society has dictated that this falls with seniority and age having earned it first as a tie breaker.

BottledApple ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:54:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes. Respect has to be earned...I'm not going to respect some random old man that I don't know....I will always be courteous though. I've taught this to my children.

Augustus420 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:58:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One reason I appreciate being Aircrew, Lts are as plentiful as Airmen and Captain is often the lowest officer rank in any position of authority outside the plane.

MetalRetsam ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:03:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think you might confuse respect with obedience. It's okay to respect people and their crap (it's not your crap after all), but it doesn't mean that you'll blindly follow their advice/orders.

I would be a shitty soldier, is what I'm saying.

MyRealNameIsFurry ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:26:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You have the wrong attitude. Good order and discipline are absolute necessities in a military unit, especially a combat unit. Respect the rank is NOT a load of crap, it is a fundamental discipline. If a lieutenant tells you to do something you, as an enlisted soldier, do it. It doesn't matter what kind of person that lieutenant is, if the order is lawful you obey it. Why? Because chain of command will save your life. Because following orders will save your life. Because you don't have to like someone for them to be in command, but you sure the fuck have to give them the respect that their rank and position command, because when you don't the chain breaks and people die. That gold bar on their (shoulder?) chest, collar, and/or headgear, means something. It means that they have been charged with ensuring the success of the mission and to accomplish that mission you must respect that authority.

Jacob_Nuly ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:09:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As someone training to be an officer, I expect to have to earn your respect as a person, but my uniform better have it unconditionally. I know that you will always know more about your job than I do, but that's not important. Officers and enlisted have different roles. It's not that officers are better; it's that they have true responsibility. An enlisted man can use the "I was following orders" excuse but an officer can be executed for following the wrong orders. Your job is to get stuff done; an officer's job is to make sure you get the right stuff done and that you don't have to take crap from higher up. If your officer isn't doing his/her job, go to your NCO. You'll be amazed how much they can change.

[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 10:57:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's bs and if you really believe it, you're an idiot.

DasJuden63 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:38:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dude, I finished my enlistment in the Marine Corps infantry back in '08, and he's right. You don't have to respect the officer himself, just the rank . You have to remember, they usually are acting with more information than you have, and have orders that you don't need to know everything about.

A good example of this is Obama has just been elected when I got out. Something along the lines of 95% of Marines voted against him, but it didn't matter. He is POTUS and is ultimately our boss, so his orders are followed. We didn't respect the man who filled the position, but respected the rank he was appointed to.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dude, I was an NCO in the Army. I'm well aware of how things work. Usually officers have less idea wtf is going on than anyone else in the room.

DasJuden63 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:07:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same in the Corps, especially with the butter bars. However, no matter how much of an idiot they are personally, you are still required to respect the rank and obey all lawful orders given by them. Doesn't matter if you agree with it, under the UCMJ you are unfortunately required to do it.

Now if you run into them while you're on libbo or leave, or they're not in your chain of command and are trying to order you around, go ahead and "respectfully" tell them to fuck right off.

Jacob_Nuly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:38:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your comments have led me to believe that you have something against officers in general. Care to tell me what that is? I legitimately want to know because the last thing I want is for my subordinates to feel the way you do.

letspaintthesky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:26:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

...........and you've been discharged.

GeniusMike ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:06:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This. Exactly this. I had absolutely no self respect for years because my own parents never respected me (my mom literally said to me one time that I don't deserve respect at all just because she's the parent and I'm the kid; yeah, she's that kind of disrespectful bitch). That isn't even the worst thing she's said to me. After years of just sitting down and taking the abuse, I finally got tired of it and started to have enough self respect to give her own shit bacl to her. I'm courteous and say please and thank you when appropriate and I force myself to try to get along with her only because I'm stuck living with her if I don't want to be homeless because I can't work to support myself ultimately due to a chronic medical condition that she had a big hand in causing. I put up with her as best I can but I absolutely do not respect her because she has proven herself to be an absolutely horrible person. The horror stories I could tell you about my family would fill a book. I am constantly amazed that I grew up to be a kindhearted person, especially since I'm not adopted.

xdig2000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:37:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can't you respect them for earning that medal or gold bar?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:57:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hah! Good one!

chaos_is_cash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was told to salute the rank not the person

newOTPchick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:25:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The way my mom (Air Force) explained "respect the rank" to me was "respect the title." For example, respect TSgt - but you don't have to respect John Smith. That's been an incredibly helpful attitude to deal with shitty managers.

Jacosion ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 06:35:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hate to break it to you. But being courteous to someone is sort've the same thing as showing them respect. You don't have to like someone to show them respect.

If you feel like every stranger has to earn your respect first before they have yours, then fuck you.

People deserve respect automatically until they prove they are undeserving of it.

trowawufei ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:42:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Like has nothing to do with it. I can dislike you and still think you're capable, responsible, and trustworthy. Those and similar virtues earn my respect. I won't automatically assume that you are worthy or unworthy of my respect, however, I will automatically be courteous to you when I meet you.

Jacosion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:51:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To me, being courteous in the context you stated is showing respect to someone.

I'm not talking about respecting someone's authority over you. I'm talking about treating someone as a human being.

So I believe we are on the same page where it counts. Wether or not we agree on what word means what.

DasJuden63 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:40:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Always be courteous, polite, and kind, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

thaswhaimtalkinbout ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:29:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

trust me -- that's the wrong attitude in the military. you better respect the rank. or risk getting totally fucked. my dad was army lifer. cool and laconic, even easygoing. but give him a sloppy salute that suggested disrespect and he'd come down on you like a ton of bricks. and he was no different than any of his fellow officers.

trowawufei ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:41:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

but give him a sloppy salute that suggested disrespect and he'd come down on you like a ton of bricks

But if he's courteous, he wouldn't give sloppy salutes, no?

Happymorndas ยท 176 points ยท Posted at 02:22:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Everyone should have your respect until they do something to lose it. That being said, I always equated "respect your elders" with "mind your manners." Your everyday 'please' and 'thank you,' sure, but if an older lady needed my help I'd go out of my way to help her.

For instance, there was an old lady that lived in the apartment next to me when I went to college. She was hilarious and had more of a foul mouth than I ever could have guessed. Anyway, she lost her license from a DUI unfortunately, so I'd help her out by giving her a ride to the grocery store or whatever if no one else was around. She always offered me gas money, but I had to decline. Then she offered me 40mg opana for fucking 15 minute trips, and I was like hell motherfuckin yeah ya old bitch bring it on! And thats how I got addicted to opiates and took 4 years to finish a 2 year degree. So, yeah, respect your elders or whatever.

Simim ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:54:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have mixed feelings about this I mean, you still finished your degree

neutralmilkkhostel ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:42:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hell yeah old lady! Those fuckers are $100!

Jacosion ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:38:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The first point you made was spot on. After that.... Idk brah you lost me.

BenjamintheFox ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:49:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That was a trip!

Drawaskun ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:26:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that's a twist

heronumberwon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:41:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait.

SageRox2000 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 02:39:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"My b"

Epic563 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:20:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not lawful

DangerZoneh ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:39:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For a man of many words, I think you've said enough

Xan_Void ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:56:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

P.S. Leffen, I aint done yet

Stacia_Asuna ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:04:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I respect my elders as a general rule, and just a little more than I'd respect everyone else. It's basically a given being raised in a half Japanese, half Chinese family.

Then again, even elders can lose that respect.

[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:53:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do your families ever try to invade each other's houses? If they really respected their elders they would at least TRY.

Stacia_Asuna ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:22:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They respect their elders enough to know that just because they have Chinese and Japanese ancestry doesn't mean they should be racist against each other.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:36:12 on October 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

More of a nationalism joke tbh. It would have worked with place swaps for the following: Missouri vs Kansas, France vs England, Mongolia vs China, India vs Pakistan, France vs Austria, America vs Russia, Germany vs (insert country). They had wars between the nations. It was meant as a joke. Sorry (sincere one)

TaurineLine719 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:19:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yea I also love the old=wise thing. My grandparents are like 80 and they're completely blind to the world

FishDawgX ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:39:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You don't get respect by demanding respect.

deer-in-headlights ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:39:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just like everything else in the Bible, the party that would benefit from one verse often likes to ignore one that asks something of them also. In this case, there are verses on respecting your parents and the elderly, but they mostly point to not just being a grievance for the sake of it and you will find verses throughout which ask pretty much everyone to respect and love each other at some point.

So more relevant to your comment, Ephesians 6:4 is similar to Colossians 3:21, which reads: "Fathers, do not embitter your children, or they will become discouraged." If your situation is in a Christian setting, that's one you can pull out as a defence. :)

MaximillianKaspar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:05:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I also do not get this.

Kudos for living longer but achieving less.

It's stupid. Respect is earned, it's not a right.

DrZiggyBowie ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:10:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What about the elder scrolls?

Gig472 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:56:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you don't respect their power then you are likely to go blind.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:23:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Yeah, my mom tried to say that constantly, but my dad made sure I knew I only had to be respectful of people who were respectful of me regardless of age (once they were old enough to know what's going on.)

HealthyDad ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:25:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What that means is "mind your fucking manners in public"

BlueWater321 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:27:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

True, but I wish I had spent more time learning from my grandparents. I think I missed out on a lot of knowledge. There is value in knowing how things were done before modern conveniences. My grandparents (4) lived through the great depression, and two world wars. Built a family in spite of 14+ miscarriages. Earned a doctorate degree. Gave up on college and a life of wealth for love. Survived cancer. Built their own home, and raised their children to have a better life than they had. Don't respect people simply because they're older than you, but don't miss the opportunity to listen to those with more life experience, maybe you'll learn something.

Thoth74 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:51:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I always saw that as having come from a time when it was a real accomplishment to live to old age. Now, just because a handful of pills every day has kept you alive longer doesn't mean you get to treat people younger than you poorly and then claim they don't respect you when they get pissed.

An old asshole is still an asshole.

Rano_Orcslayer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:00:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is almost precisely what I came here to say. In the past, anybody who managed to become an old person was either a total badass or very smart, and was therefore worth listening to. But now pretty much any jackoff can live to be 60+ years old. Society is becoming congested with a bunch of stupid old people who lack the common courtesy to just die already.

LazerBeamEyesMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:42:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yup. My father in law.

theandromedan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The only way they should get an elevated amount of respect is in situations of physicality (e.g. the standard 'offering your seat to a granny').

MetalRetsam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They way I've always gone about it like this: older people that have more perspective on life are a valuable resource. But it goes for other people in general as well: AskReddit threads are full of insights by people with different experiences. Try to understand what they mean and steal their wisdom so you won't have to learn it the long and hard way. Test it out.

As a rule of thumb: when An Adult comes to you with Some Advice For You and they don't have a story to substantiate their claim, just smile and nod. It's probably just your Republican uncle. Other than that, there's plenty to pick up from other people. We don't have to keep making the same mistakes over and over again, unless it's about learning a skill like social grace or something. Those can only be learned the hard way.

Bloodloon73 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

when An Adult comes to you with Some Advice For You and they don't have a story to substantiate their claim,

Ah, but the elders always have a story or 3 to back it up. Usually they're damn interesting as well (indeed a better love story than twilight)

MetalRetsam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:20:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was thinking more of the "just take it from me, Obama wants to destroy America" type of advice.

Bloodloon73 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:59:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was thinking more along the lines of something to help your car run that not everyone knows, or something like that, and then they'll give the story of how they figured out not to do whatever or to do whatever.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Definitely. Some people do not deserve respect, no matter how old they are.

ManaMoogle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:43:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In Thai culture (my mom's), an elder doesn't have to apologize to someone younger than them. Even if they did the shittiest thing. Just because they're older. There are so many things I hate about Thai culture.

Bloodloon73 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:48:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

'Respect your elders'. I somewhat get the logic behind it, but age certainly isn't indicative of character- and therefore age should not = respect. Like congrats, you have lived longer than me.

Maybe not of character, but generally it is indicative of experience. They've told me some of my favorite 'stories' (I say that because they're real) and as with their experience, I consider them to be knowledgeable in the way the world works.

GameOnDevin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:51:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've been trying to get that out of my girlfriend for a while now. There is a difference in being used and respecting your elders.

Jacosion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:31:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think you should respect other people until they give you a reason not to. No matter their age.

I can't stand the "you have to earn my respect before I'll respect you" mentality.

SirFluffymuffin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:32:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, its an old habit developed to make the old, useless people to feel better and distract them from their soon death. Or it was all orchestrated by the old people to get food, the special treatment, and a sense of worth after being unable to contribute to the community

quinnpm5256 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Heres what I think. Respect everybody. If somebody is disrespectful to you, don't stoop down to their level. They're probably not someone who needs to be in your life anyways.

kipz0r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:11:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hate old people. There's the elderly and there's old people, the latter are shopping on Saturdays and be generally in the way. Old people should be killed at birth.

JennaZant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:38:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents did the same. Every day, they'd say "I'm not lawful, make this pussy stop talking. You're not one of the gods; you're one of the god awful."

MemoryLapse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:09:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, it depends. I have no doubt that my grandmother is wiser than me in some aspects, despite still using the word "negro" in a neutral way (Dutch immigrant, mind you). Life does have a tendency of teaching people, especially about themselves.

TruthFromAnAsshole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:16:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair, you should respect your elders... and your peers and those younger than you too. If they lose your respect and happen to be older fuck them, but we should try to respect each other

MythGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:29:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom had a friend over once. They were talking and he says something about the president being "the wrong color". I challenged him on that statement. My mom later chewed my ass for it because he's old enough that that should carry at least some weight of respect. Besides, he's old enough that it's not like he can change.

Ugh. Such bullshit. I hated it. He can change, and should. He needs a push and a constant one at that. And I don't care how old he he is that makes everything about him less respectable. Guy cannot stay sober, has had multiple DUIs and insists that he can't drive worth shit sober. Then there's the racism. Guy was the assistant manager at a store less than a block away. They never managed to keep black staff. I'm sorry, but I'm fucking justified in telling him off for his racism. It's 2016, this should not be a thing anymore.

iforgot120 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:46:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Age is an honor, but still not the truth."

SD__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:01:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Actually, it's true. It wasn't us old wrinklies who went off gung-ho in conflicts.

EditorialSquid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:42:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandma tried to put that "respect your elders" shit on me, but then my dad said "respect those who deserve your respect, those who will respect you. Age means nothing. If someone is disrespectful towards you, why should their wrinkles make you be nice to them?"

Jst_curious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:15:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was taught filial piety as a child and I would be courteous to seniors but when it comes to respect. I think it's a two way street. You can't just demand respect and treat other people like shit. Though I was often told that phrase, I didn't really take it on-board until I was a little older and saw how my mother treated my grandparents and other seniors. She deserves my respect and makes me want to treat others like her. I think being respectful vs. respecting an individual is different.

TrollMcAnally ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:37:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was taught this when I was young too. I think there is some merit to it, but should you really continue to respect people who lost your respect or haven't even earned it yet?

I mean, some people are just dicks regardless of how old they are and its hard to respect people who don't respect others.

gigabytegary ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:39:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Congratulations, you were born before me." It doesn't necessarily make you smarter, or overall better than anyone else.

shootphotosnotarabs ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:35:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think you miss the meaning of respect.

rahyveshachr ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 03:17:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That if I buy something and it's the wrong thing, or defective, or I don't actually want it, I CAN RETURN IT! I don't have to awkwardly hold onto it for years until it finally gets pitched or donated.

Also, that I can actually call up a store and ask them if they carry a certain product so I don't waste a ton of time going there and finding out they don't.

ALSO, that if I'm looking for something at the store and an employee asks me if I need help, I can say yes instead of awkwardly saying no and getting nowhere.

Thanks mom and your social anxiety that made these things seem like novelty instead of obvious.

eviljason ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 11:30:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That doctors don't want to help you. Also, the N word in casual conversation. My younger sister and I had no idea it was a horrible word. Once while shopping(my sister and I were about 7 and 5), an African American family was buying some football jerseys. My sister and I wanted to convey to my mom that those are shirts we would also like. So, we said. "Momma, we want what that N family is buying. "

My mom looked horrified and shushed us BUT DID NOT EXPLAIN WHY. So, we thought she just didn't want to buy us the jerseys and began to whine the same phrase again. My mom then jerks us both up and says "Shut up or they are going to CUT YOUR THROATS."

Of course we shut up at this point but it was never explained that her reason for impressing on us to shut up had anything at all to do with the N word. We just thought that the African American family were bad people that cut throats.

My sister and I learned that this word was horrible through societal means.

CerealKillerOats ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:46:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dang. Are you from the south? When reading that I imagined your voice as a small southern girl lol.

eviljason ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:03:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep. Grew up a n NE Alabama

CerealKillerOats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:30:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow. I grew up in maryland so racism basically isnt a thing.

eviljason ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:03:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Funny you say that. I experienced the worst racism of my life in Boston. We were refused service at several restaurants because our group was about 90% black.

CerealKillerOats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You do realize boston is in massachusetts, right?

eviljason ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:27:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I do. But saying there is no racism is ridiculous. You realize that, right?

I was going for more of a regional likeness.

I should mention that the event I originally described with my mother occurred in 1976 and a lot has changed in the South since then.

CerealKillerOats ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:31:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I said "basically". Meaning there is some

Joshywah ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 04:55:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My Korean as fuck parents told me when I was a kid that sleeping next to a fan would lower my body temperature and kill me.

letspaintthesky ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 06:37:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've read like 4 different stories about what Korean Fan Death actually is..

[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 08:09:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I find it hilarious that you refer to it as Korean Fan Death... the fact that it's all capitalized and proper show just how seriously our Korean parents/relatives took it LOL

letspaintthesky ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:13:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Oh, I'm not Korean. I just spend WAY too much time on reddit with people who are :L

Edit: That sounded racist! :o I mean that I spend way too much time on reddit, and there's someone on every second thread talking about Korean Fan Death.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:25:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haha don't worry about it, that just goes to show how widespread the Fan Death is

dontbeonfire4 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 11:25:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What the fuck is it with this "korean fan death", sounds like a cyanide and happiness short...

QuesadillasEveryMeal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:29:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Instead of writing suicide as the cause of death coroners would blame the fan as to spare the families from shame.

AwkwardNoah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not the first post about this, weird

narudeus ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 14:24:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I like the ''riding the white horse'' story more because I am as white as the snow.But what does fan mean?like fan of a band/singer or fan of you? O.o

adiostoreadon ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 02:50:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's okay to touch animals. i got caned for not washing after playing with dogs, so that led to fear around animals in general. I'm doing better, I'm comfortable with petting cats. I'm okay with dogs, if they're really energetic, hyper, or excitable it freaks me out, but if they're calm I can actually work on getting over my fear of petting them.

[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 05:34:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism. I had to move out and see the world to see how stupid my parents were. I was never into it anyway. My dad used to say things like "it's fine and good to be friends with them but wait until you grow up and have to work with them. Then you'll find out they are lazy and worthless." I've worked with all kinds of people in the last 20 years Dad. You were dead wrong.

[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 07:02:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

That white people are racist and do everything they can to prevent us blacks from succeeding. Mexicans have a shit ton of babies so they can take over the US. Asian people are weird and nasty.

Lunatic335 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:22:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That Mexican/Latino part is true, we out here takin yer jerbs!

hitops1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:50:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That white people are racist and do everything they can to prevent us blacks from succeeding.

Is Al Sharpton your dad?

Glad you don't believe that anymore.

Watch Clarence Thomas talking about stuff on YouTube. You might be further inspired.

CerealKillerOats ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 16:54:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dude the white thing is definitely true. I always do my best, as a proud white american male, to put black people down and treat them second class.

False9FC ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:04:12 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck you

CerealKillerOats ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:15:19 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dude it was a joke

False9FC ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:07:45 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If it was a joke, then I take it back. I've seen enough racist shit on Reddit to assume you were serious.

CerealKillerOats ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:56:44 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lol boi

dead_sea_tupperware ยท 70 points ยท Posted at 01:51:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

From when I was a young child my mom always brought us to the kitchen sink whenever we were sick and needed to thrown up. Now that I'm an adult my automatic reaction upon feeling nauseous is to run to a sink. My friends will NEVER let me forget how strange this is.

MissSara13 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 04:04:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My brother throws up in the bathtub. He actually gets in, turns on the shower, and then pukes. I have no idea where he learned that.

Brandawg_McChizzle ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:16:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

the water can be soothing i guess. I like to hop in the shower when I have a bloody nose(just let it bleed) or a bad stomach pain.

prefix_postfix ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:35:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also good for headaches

MissSara13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:34:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That makes sense. I do the same if I have a really bad cold with a stuffy nose. The steam helps. But I don't leave chunks of slightly digested pizza behind.

reallymobilelongname ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:49:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's Self cleaning. Derp!

This way he can lie down in the tub with water washing over him, washing the puke away without having to hold his head up.

He's a drunk puking pro.

MissSara13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:29:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not even drunk puking. He has a habit of eating way too much and then getting sick. And he leaves the chunks behind.

Sqeaky ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:20:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Last I got sink I threw up in the bath tub. It was a straight shot into the bathroom, a larger target and didn't need to be opened.

Your brother seemed practical until I read your second sentence.

MissSara13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:30:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly! He stands in there and pukes. And leaves a mess when everything doesn't fit down the drain.

Built-In ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:19:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What about the chunks? ๐Ÿค”

MissSara13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:32:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He leaves the chunks for someone else to clean up. He's a monster.

VodkaAunt ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:03:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is this not a thing? It's my go-to.

crazedanimal ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:38:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well you should run to a toilet... which are usually near sinks.

Sqeaky ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:23:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As far as I am concerned any bathroom fixture is a decent place for puke. I have had people drink too much and throw up in the weirdest places.

Nothing quite like losing by sinking the 8 ball, thinking "That sucks I lost because the felt was slicked with beer in that corner," then reaching into the pocket and realizing beer isn't chunky.

TigerlillyGastro ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:59:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, it does make clean up easier.

Built-In ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:18:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Only if you have a garbage disposal!

LittleGoblin ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:45:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same. My sink though in my kitchen is huge and metal and can take anything. Also it was the closest thing for a stomach evacuation since the bathroom is upstairs and no where near convenient when everyone spends most of their time downstairs anyways.

BabyJourney ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:18:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This kind of makes sense to me... I mean... I've never thrown up in a US toilet, ever. How does that work anyway? Wouldn't the water splash back up in your face?

The one single time I threw up since having moved to the US, I vomited all over the tile floor right next to the toilet, because I didn't want to get toilet splashback in my face.

I lived in Finland growing up, and the toilets there have this convenient little shelf that prevents splashbacks of any kind.

So yeah, how does throwing up in water-filled US toilets work?

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:54:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You put your face over the bowl, then open your mouth and let the puke flow out. It's not that complicated.

BabyJourney ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:55:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Obviously. But my issue is (I thought I made the point clear) is that won't the toilet water hit your face with splashback?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:01:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ยฏ\(ใƒ„)/ยฏ That's just how it be in the good 'ol US of A.

If you don't mind me asking, what do you mean by shelf?

BabyJourney ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:05:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I found this handy ms paint explanation on a forum: http://www.toytowngermany.com/forum/uploads/post-369-1184278149.jpg

It's the one on the right.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That makes a little more sense. So the shelf gets filled over with water when you flush, right?

BabyJourney ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:15:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nope, no water over the shelf, unless it's just a touch of water left from the flush. The blue coloured water line levels are pretty accurate on the drawing.

I like the shelf, because there is no chance of splash at all. On the other hand, when you poop and don't intend to inspect it, you usually flush it straight away so it doesn't smell up everything.

My biggest problem with USA toilets is the splashy factor. Being a woman, it's incredibly disconcerting to me if/when the water splashes on my hooha, I get all kinds of anxiety imagining infections from the bacteria... Ugh.

BabyJourney ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:33:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh I misunderstood what you said. Yeah, the shelf will get flushed over with water, the water pushes all the waste to the front down into the chute and away. Yup!

Downcoming ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:17:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I live in the US and I've never had water hit me in the face when I puke. Maybe I'm just lucky, but I think it's just one of those things that seems more likely than it actually is.

BabyJourney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:58:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hmm, interesting.

Currently 9 weeks pregnant, but aside from feeling a bit of nausea/queasiness, I haven't thrown up yet. If I do anyway, I'll make sure to try the toilet this time instead of the floor next to it, and see if there's a splash-back.

pizzaslut365 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:29:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

(US) I've never had any splashback hit my face when vomiting in a toilet. I'm sure it happens, but I haven't ever experienced it in the countless times in my life I've gotten sick.

qwertykitty ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:30:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Currently pregnant and the first half of my pregnancy was spent vomiting constantly. I'm now a pro at vomiting and let me tell you, if the sink is nice and clean and has a garbage disposal, then it is much more pleasant to vomit into because it doesn't smell like a toilet and you don't have to waste time bending over or getting on your knees as you attempt to hold it in. Plus, water is then right there if you need to rinse your mouth or splash your face or whatever.

EaterOfFood ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:30:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I barf in the sink. When I have to barf, that is.

OrangeBall523 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:32:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

if it has a disposal good deal. I can literally only throw up into toilets, no matter how desperately ill I get. It has proven super annoying at times.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This actually sounds like the friends' problem. There's no difference between the sink and toilet, except there's one I don't defecate in and then in my worst moment of humiliation stick my face next to.

Toxicitor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:20:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The humble toilet: takes all your shit and sticks around for hugs when you're drunk.

Squidblimp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:03:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's honestly not weird at all. The only thing I'd say is if it doesn't have a garbage disposal, it might be hard to clean up, since it could clog the drain.

shaylahbaylaboo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:58:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My husband taught our children the same thing and it drives me crazy! Use the damned toilet!

Rotom-W ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:43:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ew, go to the toilet. Straight flush that sum bich.

Severinx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hopefully there was a garbage disposal and it wasn't a regular sink that got clogged with vomit?

Icanjam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:58:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I puked in the sink once and my dad beat me for it. I was on the toilet very ill and wasn't going to stand up so I threw up in the sink. Now I go outside when I have to puke.

tripleoink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We grew up learning to throw up in the toilet. I no longer do that, I throw up in the bathroom sink in private. Bonus if it's time to shower, anyway, because throwing up while showering is doubly soothing (for hangovers).

bashar_speaks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:07:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your friends are ignorant... That's not strange at all. Who wants to kneel down on the floor and put their head in a toilet when they are feeling sick to begin with? A kitchen sink is much more comfortable and convenient.

SpazticWonder ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 03:12:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was watching Scrubs with my mom one day and she told me that people aren't nearly as horny as they are in that show. Sometime during my freshmen year of college I realized how entirely untrue that was.

Shiiang ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:38:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This one made me laugh out loud. Nice :D

SpookiestCatOfAll ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:21:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a college age, non-asexual human, I can confirm. Always horny, always.

Rotom-W ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:41:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same, I just want to smash everything. My right hand is happy. Left hand not so much...

Dune17k ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 19:45:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No offense, but your mom is probably unattractive and makes herself feel better by changing her worldview to fit her schema.

IAmWhatTheRockCooked ยท 122 points ยท Posted at 01:13:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Moral legalism.

The law does not dictate my morality and never will.

[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:40:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents were huge hypocrites when it came to this. When they caught me smoking pot in high school, they said that the Bible says to obey the laws of your country (still not sure where it says this). My parents sold moonshine for a living, my mom drove without a license or insurance for years, and they had a number of illegal firearms.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:13:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Still fucked they got mad at you after that laundry list of crimes though.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:12:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's in romans, somewhere around chapter 20 if I remember right... possibly 13. I don't wanna check right now XD. It is in there though.

GenocidalNinja ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 04:22:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God I hate this mentality people have, especially when it comes to drugs. Just because beer is legal doesn't make binge drinking any better than whatever you were doing before. Or the reverse that just because someone disagrees with something means it should be illegal.

Epistaxis ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:14:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or that just because something is legal, that means there's nothing wrong with doing it.

onlyinvowels ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:06:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

YESS

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

[deleted]

IAmWhatTheRockCooked ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:47:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

im not an anarchist though lol. laws are necessary to maintain some degree of social order but when someone tries to tell me that those laws decide the morality of my personal life and actions and choices, well that's a good sign i'll never get along with that person.

vortigaunt64 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cough cough muthafuckin catholic school cough cough.

Built-In ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:10:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandma once said that "man's law is an extension of god's law."

Andraaivi ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 02:22:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nice girls wear earrings and always carry a purse and have good posture. Only fast girls whistle.

FullRageQuit ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:41:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Please explain that last part "only fast girls whistle"

pixelmeow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:02:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sluts. Whores. Girls who are believed to have had any sort of sexual contact with boys without being married first, that belief usually held on to even with facts that prove otherwise.

Andraaivi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:45 on September 12, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

some of my older relatives are very religious and believe that women who whistle are not respectable and are seeking attention from men

jdkslll ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:17:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good posture is important though :(

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:56:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And chew gum loud

Sicness91 ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 03:33:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

My father unintentionally taught me his racist views against indigenous Australians and Asians. As I got older and started interacting with them in the real world, I realised that not all aboriginals are bad. and that Asians are pretty cool.

Edit: changed a sentence.

TaylorS1986 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:01:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

not all aboriginals are the scum of the earth

Given your wording here I think you are still a little racist, because you are still implying that most Aborigines are... :-/

(not trying to be preachy, just wanted to point that out, LOL)

Sicness91 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:01:25 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I could have worded that better.

fakepicasso ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:47:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Have a family member who likes to stereotype races. "White people are healthy", "Koreans can't take a joke", "Africans love dark magic" and whatever. He sounds very convincing to someone who probably lives in a cave, or to someone who lived in a conservative environment.

Then again, this person is the same person who think horoscopes are "guides" to social etiquette.

manaril ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:33:48 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

As TaylorS1986 pointed out, you are still racist (despite the edit), but it's a process, you're learning (and unlearning), and you've taken a huge positive step in the right direction.

You can practice more by never referring to or describing someone by their race or skin colour, and to judge people only by their individual merits without using race as a consideration at all.

Most societal problems which are attributed to (a) race commonly exist in every culture, and those that don't stem from intrinsic learned prejudice which runs deep and far back, and is linked with perception and privilege.

I mean no harm or judgement when I say the above, but simply to raise your awareness of self, so that you might continue on your good path.

phurtive ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 03:01:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thinking you're better than everyone else, while at the same time hating yourself. Being a rude, horrible person, and a crappy friend. Thinking it was normal to discard people for petty failures.

[deleted] ยท 310 points ยท Posted at 23:03:33 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Astrology, numerology, palmistry and other assorted spiritual/paranormal bullshit.

ketlourd ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 03:49:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My aunt was full of these. She even made my cousin study under a giant plastic pyramid. I'm dismayed by the amount of money spent on that nonsense since my aunt was employed at that time. It also kind of discredits hpw smart and hardworking my cousin is because now all her achievement was attributed to the damn pyramid.

SEQU0IA ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 02:59:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

my parents taught me astrology too. I don't believe in it really, but I still think that sort of stuff is really cool and I'm glad they taught me it.

kevronwithTechron ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:45:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We used to love reading about the Chinese calendar when we went out to eat. We read horoscopes with grandma and played uigi boards and stuff. I can't really remember if they explained it to me this way or what but I always had the idea that it was all just for fun. I was in my late teens before I knew people actually used that stuff for more than entertainment.

toby1248 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:34:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

*Ouija

kevronwithTechron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:39 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, I don't remember it ever spelling that out.

/s

jesuisneptune ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:24:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here! My mom doesn't really believe in pseudo-sciency/spiritual stuff but finds it really interesting, and so she had a ton of books on things like astrology, crystal healing, and tarot card readings when I was a kid. It's all super interesting to read about!

RegretDesi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:11:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same. I don't believe that shit, but damn if it isn't interesting. Glad it isn't as unusual as I thought.

rippel_effect ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 01:47:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hmm, that's different than the usual parents pushing Christianity on their children

KingDarkBlaze ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:09:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not really.

NerdRising ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:48:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Most Christians aren't crazy.

hclinton4prez ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:52:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Really though, Christianity is no better than astrology or any other mysticism.

dreadington ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:24:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Careful to not cut yourself on that edge.

hclinton4prez ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:39:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

All Im saying is that Christians obviously aren't crazy. But neither are people who believe in any other kind of mysticism.

Kareus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:13:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

exactly! You explained it perfectly.

ZDTreefur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's funny that people have invented a dismissive statement they can use for any and all criticism of religion.

I guess it's too hard to respond to what a person says instead.

dreadington ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 06:33:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The previous commenter's statement was also a generalising and dismissive comment. But I guess it's fine if it's in the other direction.

Male3Dante ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Username checks out

Squidblimp ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 09:00:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's a lot of supporting evidence for Biblical events though. Don't compare the two without doing a little research first.

DannyMThompson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:51:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It was written a long time ago, for people of the time. They obviously used annecdotes and analogies that people knew of already to help the stories sound more believable.

Squidblimp ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:29:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That might be your opinion, but I'm not lying about he evidence part.

DannyMThompson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:48:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It depends what you're referring to, was Jesus a real man? Yes. Did a giant boat fit every species on the planet on it? No.

Kareus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:11:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I dunno... complete and sheer belief in something that isnt proven to exist?

NerdRising ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:59:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I meant like most don't refuse to believe in facts like science.

Kareus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know some who do.. I have to interact with them on a daily basis.

send help :(

TaylorS1986 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

2edgy4me

pink_mercedes ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 02:49:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hey even though it's total bullshit it's still really fun :)

volatile_chemicals ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:57:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The problem is when it's taught to you as total truth and not as a goofy, fun thing.

Xilverbullet000 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:03:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I won't attack your Atheism if you don't attack my religion. Please, refrain from religious discussion with random people on the internet. You won't change any opinions.

Fooled_You ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:18:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Uh you forget that /s tag there buddy?

Male3Dante ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 05:23:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, I kinda like his thinking. We see a lot of people put down stuff that does other folks some good or peace of mind

Fooled_You ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:28:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'll be honest, I'm on this wavelength as well having been raised this way. While I may not totally agree with the whole stars aligning and such, the way I've justified it is that they speak to patterns that have been noticed. Doesn't mean they're always right, but just something to think about. Religion to some is a private thing, no need to get mad/frustrated/pitiful because somebody has beliefs and thoughts that differ :)

Granted my comment was just asking the question since those comments can be downvoted to the ground if unregulated.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:08:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"You make more money as a leader, but you have more fun as a follower" -Creed Braton

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:53:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Were they any good at it?

[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:14:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes. I'm suprised my mum didn't make a business out of it. She always did readings for free and she had bookshelves packed floor the ceiling.

She knew most about astrology, palmistry and tarot (forgot to mention that).

SailorStarLight ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:28:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've found Tarot to be an interesting tool for self-reflection when you consider the confirmation bias and don't buy into the mystical nonsense. That being said, it does weird me out when the same cards come up repeatedly in the same positions. I'm going through some heartache right now and "The Lovers" or "The Two of Cups" keep coming up under "things that are hurting me." It's a strange coincidence.

_Keldt_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:47:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

At home after spending almost a week in the hospital dealing with rare complications from a broken bone, of all things, my mom was talking to me about the circumstances surrounding and events leading up to the breaking of my bone. At some point during the conversation she exclaimed "that explains why I kept getting the Tower card!" I don't know anything about Tarot, but I see what you mean, I think, and sort of relate to it in an indirect way.

GiftedContractor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:29:15 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Damn... I don't believe in Tarot cards either, but if I was playing with them for fun and kept pulling the Tower card that would freak me right the fuck out.

theniceguytroll ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 06:17:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, see, if you were really getting the Tower, they your tongue would be ripped out by a rhinoceros beetle.

_Keldt_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:43:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, I found out a little later that I could've very easily died.. Does that count? :P

theniceguytroll ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:16:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I found them to be a useful tool for naming and identifying my Stand.

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:43:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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SailorStarLight ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:57:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I literally stated this was the confirmation bias in my post and called those cards popping up a coincidence.

[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 05:59:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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SailorStarLight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

...you're the one who jumped down my throat just now, evidently without reading my post. You need to watch your kneejerk reactions.

[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 06:05:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

OK.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:22:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I do palm and tarot too. All that mystical stuff. But only so far as it's useful to me. I've found it helps to organize my thoughts and understand people. I haven't found much that's paranormal about it, though I can't say it isn't there.

Did she make good life decisions?

farciculus_retroflex ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:16:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

South Asian family? Cause this is like the scourge of an entire culture (well this and 'naturopathy')

_boopiter_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:04:25 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Omfg naturopathy. Just seeing the word brings me to a rage.

hahaheehaha ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:19:37 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Naturopathy sounds like medicine for nature.

farciculus_retroflex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:17 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

you seem to have gotten lost on your way to /r/showerthoughts

TaylorS1986 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:33:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ah, New Age Boomers, LOL!

barnaclebabe666 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:21:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Woooow!?! R u me!?! My mom and grandma raised me on astrology and that crap as if it was real, which made me think it was too until much later in life when I was like hmm maybe this is bullshit. My fav is my mom saying that I'm a moody bitch because I'm an Aries. Idk mom I'm pretty sure I have an undiagnosed mood disorder maybe u should take me to a psych not blame it on the stars???

krymz1n ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:22:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

These things are often the object of scorn by people on the Internet, but they offer the honest user with a chance at introspective insight (may require a talented reader)

I took a short seminar on Tarot at a retreat and found it very interesting. The way the readings were conducted by that reader was not unlike a kind of randomized decision-making therapy

Gamergrl09 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:44:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So I just looked up the definition of astrology and I always knew it as the study of how stars move throughout the sky. I never knew that it also meant the positions influenced my life. TIL.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:47:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am often fascinated by numerology because they draw on so many different patterns among numbers, but I don't think it means anything unless it's from something of significance. (Like finding numbers on a landmark or whatever.) The rest of that stuff is bullshit.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:19:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'll read the horoscopes every once in a while for entertainment, but my favorite one was when the daily said "Today is a great day to look for love" while my love horoscope from the same website said "Today is not a great day to look for love."

TaylorS1986 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh God, I had a GF in college whose mom was a full-blown New Age hippie type and I hated going to her mom's with her because she was just bonkers. Astrology, Tarot, auras, indigo/crystal children (I was apparently a "crystal child", LOL), healing crystals, Kabbala, crap about Atlantis and Lemuria, all sorts of wacky shit.

EmmaBourbon ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:00:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I guess it's how it's taught to you. For me, astrology taught me characteristics. There are so many things to be! Your sign could be flighty, interesting, aggressive, sexual, condescending, soft spirited, truthfulness, spirited, just, cautious, wreckless. There are literally thousands of adjectives to describe someone. My point is, for me, my grandmother had me take astrology lessons growing up and it gave me the words of how people are.

I could look at someone and say "Hey, you're acting very imaginative" or whatever describing word it was. She was also an English teacher and she raised me to love words. It taught me how to be what I want to be. I'm an Aquarius and they're known for being a little bit flighty. Well, Do I want to be a flake? That is my choice. I can choose that and live up to the stereotype or I can change how I am and be what I want to be.

I know... it's all vague bullshit. As an adult woman, I completely agree, but growing up and learning all this stuff as an teenager it really helped me figure out who I wanted to be.

I must note, she is not religious. I think she just liked all the adjectives and it was a great way to teach us more words and how they relate to other humans.

equusoddball ยท 98 points ยท Posted at 04:33:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom grew up in abject poverty and as such absolutely cannot manage money at all. Any 'extra' money that come our way or tax check was gone as soon as it was in her hands. 300 bucks? Thank the lord, new shoes for the kids that have outgrown them and fix the car. 3000 bucks? Praise Jesus, fixed the HVAC, some decent groceries, a bill caught up.

After all off us had grown up and moved out my mom had a shit ton fewer finanical worries but still could not figure out how not to spend money she should be saving. Growing up that way made me ridiculously conscious of my finances after I moved out and realized that I would work myself into the same hole.

Do I NEED that? Nope. I don't get it. I put the money I thought about spending in a savings account or toward my car loan. I snowball all of my payments.

I even sit down and have deep budget discussions with my mom, but she will never be able to get past starving as a child. She received a 9k settlement at the beginning of the year and it is completely gone. When money shows up, you spend it. You get the things you have to get, hoard canned foods and splurge on the few things you would love to have to make your life a little more comfortable.

cloistered_around ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:09:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents were poor too but had an almost opposite reaction to it. Spend as little as possible, complain when you do have to spend anything, and constantly instill in your kids a sense of frugality. I basically grew up with the idea that we never ever had enough money so I tried to cause as minimal impact on my parents as possible... never asked them for anything, never bought anything, just worked many jobs and saved it all.

Long story short: This basically resulted in me having thousands of dollars in the bank by the time I hit college--but I couldn't make myself buy a cheap $5 tshirt I liked for because "it's not a necessity." It took me years to realize that having money is pointless if you never spend any at all, and that occasionally it's "okay" to spend money on yourself. You aren't worthless. You worked for it, anr you deserve it just as much as anyone else does.

equusoddball ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:25:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mom always tried to spend as little as possible, but there wasn't enough money to save any, ever. I am crazy frugal too now, and I have the same problem that you do. I bought a jacket for $30 after arguing with myself for 30 minutes. My last jacket was $30 and lasted me 5 years, but I still cringed as I handed over my debit card. I'm 28 so I have had 10 years on my own to try and get over it and still struggle.

Doctah_Whoopass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:54 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thats better than just splurging every pay check.

Ratstail91 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:29:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is my life right now. I still live with my mother, mostly for monetary reasons. It's a quagmire.

NewbieDoobieDoo7 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:28:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Tbh the examples you gave are not bad things to spend 'extra' money on. I've seen so much worse, people go on shopping sprees for clothes, electronics and cars or take mini vacations when they get their tax refund. But a couple months later they're asking to borrow money for food or whatever else they need. The gov't needs to work out a monthly payment plan of the refund so they can use it throughout the year for things they need instead of splurging on BS like they do.

equusoddball ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Of course, any money that was spent was always for us. My mom feels like she let us down growing up because she couldn't give us everything she wanted to be able to give us, though none of us ever asked for anything we did not need because we knew there simply wasn't any money for it. Any time she gets money now she tries to give it to us, to buy a new bed or go on a trip. My sister would gladly take it if we did not all glare her down. Our mom should be saving that money for her medications or rainy days but tries to do sweet nice things for us instead. Moms these days, man.

NewbieDoobieDoo7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:48:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's a nice mom problem to have ๐Ÿ˜Š but I feel your pain when it comes to parents not knowing how to manage their money. My dad doesn't know to to budget my mom is an over budgeted/couponer. I luckily took after mom but my older sister took after my dad so she constantly struggles with bills.

theawkwardintrovert ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:42:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This speaks to me. :(

My parents have always been really frugal - and it's paid off for them in that they have no debts and are really good at saving money. However, my father is more CHEAP than frugal. I've actually rebelled against this and often bought things that were more expensive but better quality (e.g. a camera).

The trouble is, I don't know how to stop. I don't have a proper job like he does (he makes a lot) and I cannot afford to move out of my parent's house. I make very little money and what little I have I justify spending on a variety of things. Some stuff is legit, but other stuff I kind of shake my head at.

TL;DR - I need to learn how to be more miserly because I'm doomed to remain in a cycle of spending money I don't really have. :(

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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equusoddball ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have a really fun number for my student loan debt but I managed to pay off all of my small unsubsidized loans, my credit card and medical bills after I had a wake up call. Now I only have my car/house/student loan payments to worry about. I HIGHLY recommend talking to someone about it. I have a cousin that is a budget maniac (Dave Ramsey and the like) and I learned a lot of tips from her that changed my life, mainly snowballing payments and managing my spending. Good luck out there, it may look insurmountable but it isn't if you start now. You'll be surprised how quickly you can start to get a handle on it.

unquietwiki ยท 236 points ยท Posted at 23:10:07 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Still trying to get myself to mentally unlearn thoughts of racial slurs.

1NSTINCT ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 01:19:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When the pizza rolls are done.

Cobalt_97 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:33:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wut

volatile_chemicals ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:58:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Purple monkey dishwasher

TheWhiteCrayon4 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:53:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Orange monkey eagle

AlreadyGoneAway ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:37:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you alive?

McMilla1228 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:40:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He's dead, Jim.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:33:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I slip up sometimes, when I was growing up in a white family in 1980's Mississippi, the word "nigger" was used the same way most people today use "black", even in non-racist contexts. "Negro" was when you were in mixed company or trying to be polite. If you were deliberately being racist, it was "jiggaboo" or "darky". Didn't know any better until probably sixth grade when I got in trouble for referring to a classmate as "you know, the nigger on our bus" in conversation and got in trouble for it. My parents called the school to complain.

unquietwiki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:29:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's interesting. You'd think it'd be the other way around. Hell, "darkie" shows up in a later Little House book.

RREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:47 on December 3, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

jiggaboo sounds hilarious. did people actually use that without laughing? where does the word even come from?

Matriss ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 04:15:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know if there's science backing it up but I've heard that the first knee-jerk thought you have Is what you where taught and the second one is what you actually think. So if you have a racist intrusive thought then immediately go "ew wtf that isn't me" you're doing OK.

chewb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:47:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Contrary to popular belief, you are not your thoughts. It's your brain, your feelings, your thoughts, but they are not you

undilyeted ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:13:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandma used to tell my mother that I was the grandchild that would get pregnant young and the baby would be "black as spades". "Would you bounce a little pick-a-ninny on your knee?" - all within earshot of me. In my mind, I call her Cunt Grandma".

I_DRANK_YOUR_SHAKE ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 02:28:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They're macadamia nuts, grandma!

[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:26:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And Brazil nuts look nothing like toes grandma.

AuntyDotal ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:43:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fight the good fight. You are the future.

stillphat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:03:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh that one is still strong. Never out loud, but you bet your bottom dollar I thought it by accident.

the_sloth_bear ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:11:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do you have a touch of the tar brush?(look it up)

airbornelawyers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:54:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Time to play wheel of fortune. The topic is.... People who annoy you. You have 5 seconds to guess the word.... N_GGIERS

Mystery_Log ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:20:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'd like to buy an 'A', please.

chewb ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:44:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So NAGGIERS?

airbornelawyers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You are correct sir! :D

trampabroad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:36:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
  • Looks around shiftily * .....Jewishes
SD__ ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 08:55:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't bother. I'm offensive by nature. I figure if someone gets violent from just words they likely aren't worth having a beer with.

[deleted] ยท 108 points ยท Posted at 22:45:11 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Santa

iTalk2Pineapples ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 23:06:35 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I still believe in Santa.

CirclleySquare ยท 177 points ยท Posted at 23:34:56 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You don't stop believing in Santa. You just become Santa

iTalk2Pineapples ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 23:40:31 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sometimes a person says a thing and it sticks with me forever. I already know this has been logged away in long term storage.

artnerd299 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:28:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't stop believin

Pjman87 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:46:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hold on to that feelin

AnthonyP301 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:49:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

*Ho ho hold on to that feelin'

Richierayqua ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:05:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mom's spaghetti

the_federation ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:21:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Knees weak, Martin Skrelli

Gonmi01 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:47:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That made me smile. Thanks.

BeefSamples ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm using this.

SmallManBigMouth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:40:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."

-Mrs. Claus

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:36:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Me too. I know in my heart of hearts there would be presents if I weren't such a bad person.

Silverado1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:50:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Okay, so, one year my brother (12 at the time), my sister (8 at the time) and I (10 at the time) finally told our parents that we no longer believed in Santa. It was Christmas Freakin' Evening. Our parents are just like, "whatever" and we all go to bed. So us kids wake up Christmas morning and run downstairs. There is not a God dang thing under the tree. NOTHING. Stockings are hanging above the fireplace... empty. We do a quick run around the house... Nada. So, we let our parents sleep in while we watch Dutch TV (we were military, living on the economy at the time. We couldn't watch German TV because, well, it was in German. But the Dutch showed American shows with sub-titles, so we could watch that shit). Anyway, mom and dad finally wake up, and slowly come down the stairs.

"What did Santa bring," they asked.

"Nothing, Santa didn't come."

Long story short, they hid our toys. We eventually found them. But since then, we don't say shit about Santa. We still "believe" at 35, 37, and 39.

And damn it, I'll do that same shit to my kids when they say they don't belive!

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:37:24 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What is wrong with Santa? Is he sick?

Csantana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In my head i still feel like he's up there. I mean same with God though even when my parents told me that they were the ones granting my prayers by murdering my bullies. But now I get to help grant my brother's prayers. He wants to be a bird!

SomeBalls ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:27:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

...wut

miianwilson ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 04:39:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mormonism. It's still taking me time to unlearn it, and I'm 35.

daperson1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:00:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's a musical called "the book of Mormon" which you very definitely need to go and see.

MyDamnBlog ยท 246 points ยท Posted at 00:55:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I should be a man, want to get married and have kids. They tried to force things like cars on me at a young age, even though I never took to it and can't even change a tire. When I was like 8, they gave me the talk about sex. I pretended to be into girls a few times, just to make them happy. I wanted to date for the status, not for me personally. They want me to be dating now and thinking of marriage in my early 20s.

To this day, I still haven't felt sexual desire for women or men and feel actively and constantly pressured when I'm in relationships. I'm fairly certain I am aromantic and asexual and I have to learn that is okay.

SparkyDogPants ยท 110 points ยท Posted at 03:21:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair, if you drive you should know how to change a tire. But keep doing you for everything else.

horyo ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:35:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It actually isn't too hard if you have a jack and a good tire iron and can turn it on the lugnuts.

SparkyDogPants ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 07:40:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's what I'm saying. Sexual orientation is no excuse to not know basic car care. I think if you can't top off air in your tires, change a tire, and check your oil at the minimum; you probably shouldn't have a car.

anon5667 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 08:30:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm a gay mechanic, so I guess you're right. Sexual orientation isn't an excuse not to know basic car care. Also, you guys mean changing a wheel, changing a tyre needs a tyre machine (nifty pieces of kit).

PureChaosDI ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:08:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i've seen one in action, cool, but real fucking loud.

anon5667 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:18:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You get used to it pretty quickly, I'm desensitised to loud bangs and noisy machinery now.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:09:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And a pile of curses when i show up with a Run Flat!

As for oil some cars don't even have a dipstick anymore (BMW)

anon5667 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:40:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ridiculous, it's all a scheme so they have to go to a main dealer.

->$$$<-

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:52:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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Terazilla ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:33:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's on a level of complexity comparable to putting fuel in the tank. It's ridiculous to avoid learning it.

SparkyDogPants ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:41:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That seems silly to call them every time you get a flat. Most cars come with some sort of flat kit.

QueenLexa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:42:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

True. I'm learning how to drive but my boyfriend has been driving for years. We were going down a major highway when his tire split. So we pulled off and had to change it. He'd never changed one before but had seen it done. I helped him do it and I'm really glad that I did. Even though I may not need to know how, I do. And I learned how to jump start a car the other week after one's battery died at the drive thru window when I was supervising that shift so I was trying to help move it so we could open our drive thru again. I feel more confident knowing I can do basic things on my own.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:07:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The tire thing is becoming less and less of a thing... the last 5 cars I have had didn't have a spare, the tire goes flat you keep going and limp to a shop and buy a new one. It started with the luxury models Mercedes and BMW but Nissan, Honda, Ford and Toyota are all moving to Run Flat Tires

RealHazubando ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 02:56:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hi buddy! I'm an ace too. People like that won't ever understand, so it won't be worth it to come out. Appeasing them won't work either because they'll just move the goalposts. Let 'em wallow.

Wearing an ace pride ring did a lot for my happiness and security, if you want to get one.

unseen-streams ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:52:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wearing an ace pride ring did a lot for my happiness and security

Same. It's a constant reminder that I know who I am.

MyDamnBlog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:11:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not into a lot of the community stuff, pride rings and groups and the like, I never got why I wasn't, but I wasn't, but whatever works for you.

While I agree it isn't worth appeasing them, I'm sort of stuck while I live with them :/

RealHazubando ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:40:02 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Best wishes!

theniceguytroll ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:25:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you're an ace, what suit are you? Hearts, clubs, spades, or diamonds?

letspaintthesky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:33:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

..that's actually terminology we use.

theniceguytroll ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:45:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know, I was trying to make a joke. You know, 'cause playing cards and shit? I'll be in my bunk...

letspaintthesky ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:49:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oops. 5 card draw or go fish? I'll deal.

theniceguytroll ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:51:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

52 pickup. We play like gentlefolk here, my friend.

letspaintthesky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:18:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Great! Who cleans up? :L

RealHazubando ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:36:16 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think spade.

But if this is a joke, the joke's on you, because that's actually a real asexual community "thing". The suits signify what your preferences are. :) If it's not a joke...uh, hi friend!

genivae ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:57:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've never heard of an ace pride ring. Any recommendations on where to find one? One of my brothers is ace, and I think that's something he'd appreciate.

RealHazubando ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:37:58 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've heard many people say they got them online, however I found mine at a carnival jewelry vendor. It's just plain stainless steel.

The only requirement is that it be black and on your right middle finger. :)

Vauxhaven ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:14:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

An ace ring is really just a black ring, sometimes with purple/silver as secondary colours on it somewhere. There may or may not be a particular finger it's "supposed" to be worn on, but I don't think anyone will mind that much if you didn't bother with that.

Shiiang ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:11:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Most people use the middle finger of the right hand as the one to wear the ring on. The only thing we'll fuck is society's expectations. It's a great feeling to flip the bird with an ace ring on.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:31:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Tobias?

Willkm ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:23:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a girlfriend once and almost believed I wanted it that way because that's how I was raised and how everyone around me was. Needless to say I was hopelessly confused for much of my life. I'm ashamed to say that I joined in a few times bullying another peer in middle and high school. It started as "this is the way it is and everyone tells me homosexuality is wrong" and ended up evolving into my only hope to avoid it happening to me. I finally learned something about myself when I had sex with her and didn't enjoy it. I learned to be myself and do my own thing, not what people expect of me.

It takes a lot to beat down teachings of ignorance, but we learn from it and be better people. I hope you're in a comfortable place right now in reference to relationships and sexual desires.

Shiiang ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:12:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

hugs I'm glad you got through that. Hang in there.

lemonadefairy ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:39:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i'm an ace too (straight/f). i can't imagine having parents like that, especially given the conditions you listed that they believe is related to manhood or whatever. my parents aren't perfect but they also aren't the pressuring type. either way, i've told them i'm asexual in fairly casual conversation. dunno if my dad knows wtf i'm talking about (lol) but your comment reminded me that i don't get slack for it because i'm a girl, and nobody wants their daughter ~sluttin'~ around. it's like, a non-issue

sorry, that was long. but just wanted youto know other aces exist and stuff and i also thought the difference gender plays in our experiences is noteworthy/interesting

xoxo

MyDamnBlog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:10:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being a guy is part of it, I'm expected to be chasing girls right now, wanting to have sex and all that. It's also like part of being "a man"

They are also very conservative, catholic and believe in gender roles.

Shiiang ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:13:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes. Men, women and non-binaries all face different issues in being ace. Men are ostracised because of the belief they should be interested in sex, and are unmasculine if they're not; women are celebrated for their "purity", until they meet a nice man and aren't interested, and then questions start to be asked; and non-binary individuals are often told they're broken, or both their non-binary and asexual identity stem from abuse in their past.

It sucks.

Tortferngatr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not ace (and grew up Protestant), but I went to a conservative Catholic grade school and a liberal Catholic high school. (Currently atheist and two non-A letters in "LGBTQIA," though I internalized a lot of the grade school's religious teaching that had to be unlearned in the high school and to a lesser extent college.)

Honestly, from what I'd experienced I suspected it would be easier being ace in the Church than a different letter in LGBTQIA, because you could just be a priest or a monk or a nun without ever having to deal with the possibility of tempted by lusting after someone...damn, that must have sucked growing up.

MyDamnBlog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If I had any desire to be a priest or a monk, that would be fair, but I don't and I consider myself non-denominational (I believe there is a creator, that's all), I showed from a young age that I had little to no interest in the church, so married life would be what is expected of me by almost everybody. And I guess a big part of married life is dating in high school.

If I actually was religious, I could be a preist easily

scribblerscrabbler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:00:38 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nah, a big part of married life isn't dating in high school. High school relationships that end in actual, successful marriages are few and far between. If you mean, hs dating is prep for adult dating and eventually marrying someone, not necessarily.

TehKatieMonster ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:32:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You should seriously learn how to change a tire though...

MyDamnBlog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:03:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I get the jist of it. I just can't do it alone.

TehKatieMonster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:38:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well hopefully you never drive alone.

MyDamnBlog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:43:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I actually legally can't right now. If I ever take a long rode trip alone, I will practice.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:26:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You legally can't drive or legally can't change a tire?

MyDamnBlog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:28:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can't drive alone legally. I have a Permit.

ddutton9512 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:24:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Glad that you've learned to be ok with yourself but you should still learn to change a tire. Don't want to be stranded anywhere.

MyDamnBlog ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:05:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know how to do it sort of. I just couldn't do it alone. I know where all the stuff is and how to use a tire iron.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:00:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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MyDamnBlog ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:07:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have talked to my doctor and therapist and I do not. I have naturally lower testosterone then a lot of guys, but not a dangerous level.

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 07:40:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Shiiang ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:14:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For some people, it's their hormones. For some people, it's their sexuality. It's okay to have a low libido, if you're happy with that, and it's okay to be ace.

MetalRetsam ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:15:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They're happy. You're not helping.

[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 05:29:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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MetalRetsam ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:40:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I take my downvote back. Interesting.

Okuhou ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:29:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In their defense those hormones also affect other things so it may be worth checking regardless for health purposes.

Amberleaf29 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:52:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wooo, ace pride! Okay, I'm demisexual and heteroromantic. But still! Until I met my current boyfriend, aka the only person I have ever felt sexual attraction for and that took... well, like a year to develop, I thought I was completely asexual. I totally get the struggle!!! I could literally go the rest of my life being totally celibate and not have kids and stuff, but having a partner is pretty nice. Having a platonic partner also sounds pretty dope, though. If I don't end up staying with my boyfriend forever, I won't be in any hurry to find a new relationship, and hey, we'll see if that kind of bond even develops again. Shit's rare with people like me.

MyDamnBlog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:01:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What's funny is, i'm not 100% opposed to a relationship but A) It's really hard to find someone who is cool with no sex and B) My parents pushing makes it hugely unappealing.

I get where you are coming from, best of luck!

heronumberwon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:50:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's .. Interesting

You never watch porn bro? Or never mastrubate?

MyDamnBlog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:59:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, masturbating is just a pleasing sensation, but no, porn does absolutely nothing for me at all.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:22:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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MyDamnBlog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:55:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is one thing. I was never coddled, and being in a relationship where I am sounds suffocating.

Dating someon in their 20s-30s sounds mildly appealing, but 40s and 50s just seems uncomfortable for both parties.

SD__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:23:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm fairly sure you don't mean "aromatic" as in fragrant. Joke aside, have you considered the church?

MyDamnBlog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:30:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What about the church exactly?

SD__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:13:49 on August 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Well, the church has a history. It could do with more people like yourself who could be impartial on matters sexual and of relationships.

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It takes only a few clicks for you to discover my offensive posts about all manner of things. I do it, not to especially troll, but to make people think. I never joined a debating society. If my posts anger people, it's usually their problem. Talking is better than violence.

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There is mental violence though. In the UK, in divorce courts it is called "mental cruelty". Ultimately though, the only solution is for you to just let it wash over your head. Difficult in your 20's but possible. I'll tell you a tale about myself and a workmate about five years ago.

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My workmate is a self confessed white lecher sporting all manner of deviant non-pc jokes down the pub at lunchtime. Even in boring meetings, he passes me his phone (nasty joke). Time passes and it transpired he's married to a black woman. How can this be? He explains the usual stuff about black women being hard taskmasters etc and that his missus doesn't give a shit what he says, looks at, provided he comes home without dipping his wick elsewhere.

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We get a new programmer. She's quiet. People are all talking about this female who looks like a man. Is she a lesbo? Does she take it up the arse? All those rumours. My mate walks in and invites her down the pub. I'm off on holiday at that point. When I get back they're thick as thieves, him telling her all the jokes he tells me.

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Day two of me getting back, my mate always said what he wanted to do to the barmaid's pristine chest, even with our new programmer in tow. That lasted until our new programmer went to the loo: the barmaid sneaked up on us and asked "what is it? (meaning her)". My mate blanked her and never spoke of her pristine chest ever again.

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The reason I mentioned the church is because I think you may have the ability to see through all the obnoxious talk of my mate, her problems and my tale to see the truth of the matter.

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Personally, I'd prefer you "just get a grip". Fuck 'em ;-)

robertx33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:29:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This got me thinking, you might not want sex, but do you want friendship?

Would living together with a friend be cooler?

MyDamnBlog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:31:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I love friends! Friends are great!

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:48:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cars aren't specially a manly thing though, they are good learning experiences for anyone

MyDamnBlog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They were taught with the intention of being able to fix a car for my future wife. Additionally, it would be useful to know how to do basic maintenance, but if you find cars as boring as I do, beyond that is torture.

CerealKillerOats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:39:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I dont think that you are "asexual". You probably have a low libido and should check it out with a doctor. I dont want to come off as rude, just a little advice.

MyDamnBlog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:24:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Talked to both a therapist and a medical doctor. There is nothing that NEEDS fixing. Testosterone could improve it, but for a different reason I can't take hormones.

CerealKillerOats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Alright cool. Whatever maked you happy.

RREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:41:42 on December 3, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

so you don't watch porn or masturbate then?

MyDamnBlog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:49:21 on December 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't watch porn. I masturbate as a stress/pressure reliever once in a while, but that's about it.

prillin101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's gonna come a time where you can't really do much more than tell them to fuck off and put your foot down, just delaying the inevitable.

MyDamnBlog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:06:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm just waiting until I can move out mostly. Still in high school.

prillin101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:40:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, make sure you're financially independent when you move out. They'll try to control you with money, get a solid savings account by the time you move out.

MyDamnBlog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is one thing, both my parents are broke, so when I move out, they can't control me.

prillin101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How old are you? Do you have any sort of plan for after? I would start planning, decide whether college, community college, or trade school, what city, etc.

Edit: if it's as bad as you say, also consider cutting contact after you turn 18.

MyDamnBlog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:01:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I just recently turned 15, so I am gonna be a sophomore. I had sort of planned on moving out and working full time after high school.

My parents aren't as bad as I made them out to be, they just have a very warped idea of how things should be.

prillin101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you're going to work full time, go to a community college or trade school. You'll need some sort of an education.

Someone told me this before, and it's great advice. Go to the top 100 paid bachelor degrees in the world (Or, if you want a two year degree, Associates), find 10 you would enjoy the most. Then make a top 3, and then decide which one of the three (Whether based off enjoyment, money, flexibility and vacation days, difficulty, etc.)

Instead of getting a degree in whatever your passion is, get a good paying degree and then do your passion as a hobby, you'll be way happier.

Edit: Consider low contact, or just moving far away. You'll still talk and be family, but you'll have barriers.

MyDamnBlog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Here's the thing I realised a while ago. If I don't love something, I will be miserable doing that thing every day. I would rather work minimum wage for years and a have a few roommates then i would go to college and get a good paying job. There are a couple reasons, I wouldn't be happy, I'd have money, but what the hell do I need all of it for, and getting that job would take it away from someone who actually wants to do it.

I understand following my dreams takes sacrifices, and I'm prepared to make those. Even if I was making millions, if I wasn't enjoying it, I would ve miserable.

_The_Real_Guy_ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:26:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you're in your twenties you shouldn't listen to them as aneeded authority on your personal life and interests. That is some thing you'll have to relearn. It doesn't mean you don't love them, it just means that you're an individual.

MyDamnBlog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm in my teens, i have no care to please my dad, but I wouldn't want to let my mom down.

_The_Real_Guy_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:44:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ah misread as you being in your twenties and being pressured to be married instead of being pressured to be married in your twenties. Well same stuff applies. Besides, asexuality has some benefits. Just explain it to them next time that they try to pressure you.

MyIQis76 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:30:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They tried to force things like cars on me

My parents tried to force that out of me lol

They failed

MyDamnBlog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:03:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mine failed too. Everytime the tried to get me to work on or like cars I got way less interested.

MyIQis76 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:51:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep. Even though I see cars and motorcycles as my life, it's fucked up when a parent tries to force hobbies on kids. They'll end up hating it anyways.

3jt ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:34:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I agree, it's totally cool whatever you choose. However, I would at least mention the lack of libido to your doctor since there's a small chance it's a sign of a potentially serious health problem.

MyDamnBlog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:02:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have mentioned it once or twice. I'm not able to take testosterone in any supplement and my therapist thinks it is normal.

Teaboo_mom ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 04:40:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why not just bring home an ugly woman or a woman with children already. Your parents will be happy and the woman will be happy to have someone. I'd go for something like that, if I wasn't married already.

unseen-streams ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:53:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some people don't want to fake it their whole lives. Also, it wouldn't be fair to the woman.

BeardsuptheWazoo ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 02:59:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the best response to new situations is ANGER ...

I'm a pretty calm patient dude now, took a long road to get here.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:04:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How did you do it?

Ziggy_Drop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:33:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My guess would be distancing from parents and getting a healthy group of friends.

Stuffyluffy ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 06:53:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Came from a family where they never took their animals to the vet. Never wanted to spend money on them. Never even took them to get fixed and I thought that was okay until I finally moved out on my own. But I've also had my dad take away my dogs at a young age and just drop them off in a lonely place so they couldnt find their way back whenever he didn't want to bother with them anymore...it's been very hard to forgive my family for this behavior.

Also just making me feel like an idiot in general for having any sensitive feelings for animals.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:37:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mine was kinda like that too, with the exception of taking the pets to the vet to be altered immediately because my mother made it very clear that she'd beat any pet to a pulp that she caught peeing in the house. Aside from that, pets were never taken to the vet even for annual checkups and I had to beg my mother to take my cat to the vet when I was a kid because she was laying on her side howling for three straight days and not eating or drinking and Mom didn't think anything was wrong.

Turned out the cat had some bladder stones that were causing a blockage. She would have just died slowly and painfully from them had she not received care. I heard about that bill for years. I also got told what a terrible person I was for taking my cat to receive advanced treatment at a fancy animal clinic when I was an adult.

Casey4D ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 02:16:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They taught me I was special, I had to learn that if I wanted to be special, I would have to work to acheive it.

shake2323 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 02:56:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be scared of black people.

hiiipowerculture ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:15:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

hi :)

anziano_f ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 04:40:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

All of the tenets of mormonism. A lifetime of brainwashing is difficult to deprogram.

Lunatic335 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 11:44:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hear this a lot. Exactly what does Mormonism teach? Had a Mormon friend but didn't really ask out of fear of being rude.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:44:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Ziggy_Drop ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:37:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can have morals and beliefs of a decent human being without religious scripture. Just saying.

PerpetualAnachronism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No one insinuated that you couldn't?

M00glemuffins ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 04:46:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mormonism, and all the bigotry and baggage that comes with it. I remember the time not so long ago when I was still active, didn't care for LGBT's, and looked down on other religions as 'wrong' since we were the 'one true religion' on the Earth. Leaving Mormonism and opening my mind and heart have been a hell of a thing to unlearn.

MacadamNumber ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:08:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ex Muslim here....i was also thought to look down on all other religons =/

val0ciraptor ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 06:14:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It took me about 5 years to unlearn that just because someone is family it doesn't automatically mean they have your best interest at heart or even care about you at all. Both of my parents were the scapegoats for each of their families and they're still stuck in it like they don't have a choice.

NotTooDeep ยท 81 points ยท Posted at 05:15:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not really fucked up parenting, but more like Dr. Who gone wrong.

My parents were born in the first decade of the 1900s. They lived through WW1, the Great Depression, and WW2, then (surprise!) I arrived. They both passed in their late 80s.

It wasn't that their ideas and values and teachings were torturously wrong or cult-like; they just didn't pertain to the modern world, the world I was confronting. Their emotional attachment to stuff, any stuff, made them the classic horders of today, but coming from a place of 'That still has value and we may need it again.' They didn't get the 60s. They thought the military should have been brought in to shut down the race riots, machine guns blazing. They thought I was a coward for not supporting the war in Vietnam.

It took me a long time to sort out that I was in reality raised by grandparents. Almost everything that they were certain of and passed on to me, I had to at least modify to bring it up to date or unlearn completely. The were Southern. They were bigoted against all non-white races. They were poor. At the same time, they had many friends from non-white races, were generous towards strangers in need, would fix dinner for any friends I brought home from high school, and let me have a wide range of independence in the suburbs of Los Angeles.

Eventually, I learned that most of my childhood was what it was because children do not know any different; my homelife was safe and loving to me, even when being beaten with a wire coat hanger or a belt.

My mother was a very adept liar; she created a family mythology that preserved the dignity of our family. It wasn't until after her death that I learned that she had been the 'other woman' to my dad's second wife, broke up his marriage in Arkansas, and the two of them ran away to Arizona in shame and rejection by the rest of the families. It was shortly after her death that we kids found our birth certificates; her age was listed as 37 on all three.

It's confusing not knowing your history. But I overcame all that and know who I am and how I want to act. My life plays nothing like their lives played out, and yet it does. My dad adapted to violently changing job markets by moving to where the work was. I've done that, more than once. My mom cooked for everyone. I've done that. I long for a permanent home base and yet long for a nomadic life; I balance these somewhat by traveling for work from time to time. My parent's dream before the outbreak of WW2 was to buy a Harley with a side car and tour. They never got to.

Interesting times.

Built-In ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 09:39:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I like your post best of all in this thread.

0000ismidnight ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:26:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Agreed.

MajicMexican ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 03:33:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Despite being gay, I am in fact not evil and going to hell. But it's ok I don't talk to my family anymore

tattooedgothqueen ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:22:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hate that this happened to you. No child should be hated for who they love.

brettf123 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:21:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's Christian extremists for you, they will love you for hating, and hate you for loving

jafarcat ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:40:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Extremism of most religions, but yeah.

dockingrockets ยท 82 points ยท Posted at 23:30:22 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Credit cards are evil and if I use one I should expect to be massively in debt soon after, and possibly even go to prison due to inability to pay off said debts.

poBBpC ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:24:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do they realize that Debtor's Prisons were banned in the early 1800s.

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:43:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Maybe not to that extent, but they're a bad idea. My grandmother was an extremely successful real estate agent with lots of ~powerful rich friends~. The consistent advice that all of these millionaires would give me would be "Never buy something if you don't have the cash to buy it outright." ie no credit cards, no mortgages, etc.

Edit: since y'all wanna get offended I have to add this now. Don't take this so fucking strictly. I'm just passing on some advice some rich fucks gave me when I was a kid. Adapt it to your situation, like with all advice.

SailedBasilisk ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:32:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is good advice regarding credit cards, but it doesn't mean you don't have a credit card, it just means you pay it off in full every month. Regarding mortgages, that would mean only millionaires could buy houses.

ExtremelyLongButtock ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:11:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That sounds like advice that millionaires can afford to live by.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:26:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or advice that got them to be millionaires in the first place. You think they'd get rich and stay that way if they knew nothing about handling their finances?

Mocha_Bean ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:09:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Found the millionaire.

For just about everyone who isn't one, buying a house or a car entirely upfront just isn't an option.

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:13:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not a millionaire. I'm actually a broke student just like the rest of us. There's an incredible thing called saving your money.

Mocha_Bean ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:18:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Okay, let's say you don't yet have a car, and you just got a job, and there's no way to easily get there via public transport, bicycling, etc.

How exactly are you gonna get there? Wait and save your money until you can pay for a car upfront? It's kinda hard to do that when you aren't getting a paycheck.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So then buy your first car. You don't need to spend a shit ton of money on a crazy fancy vehicle. Use your credit card on a 6k used car and then save up for the Lamborghini. /s Seriously you're taking this advice way more strictly than it was intended.

Mocha_Bean ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:43:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Seriously you're taking this advice way more strictly than it was intended.

Cars and houses are some of the biggest purchases most people ever make, and if they aren't compatible with this one-size-fits-all advice of "don't finance anything," then perhaps the advice is bunk.

gethighandthink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:42:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Carpool, Uber when necessary, and save money.

Mocha_Bean ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:40:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Carpooling's nice when that's an option, but spending a substantial amount of money every day on an Uber ride? Have fun trying to save for that car.

Manadox ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:50:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I would never be able to afford a house though.

WhoMeNoHer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:12:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you over 18 yet? You sound very naive and you're talking about your grandma and her rich and powerful friends' experiences instead of your own experiences.

If you have the money to never use credit than more power to you. But in all honesty, in the United States no credit is just as bad as having bad credit. If you're rich and your rich grandma and rich parents will buy all of your stuff, then that's great. If that isn't the case you'll need some sort of credit.

If you want to rent an apartment (in most places) because you don't have the $180,000 (average in the U.S. it's over 250,000 in my area) to buy a house, you'll need a credit history. If you don't sometimes they won't rent to you or make you get a cosigner. If you need a car because you don't live somewhere with a good public transit system and you don't have enough money, you'll need credit to get a car loan. What if you have an emergency fund set up, but then something really bad happens and it uses all your funds. Credit can help keep you off the streets.

With the exception of my house I also live by the don't buy anything you can't outright buy. I still have a credit card. I will use it and then pay it off by the end of the month. That's how I built my credit, so by the time I needed a better car that wouldn't break down on me I was able to get a car loan with a super low APR. Then once I paid that off and saved up enough for a down payment on a house, I was easily able to get a mortgage for my house. I am incredibly lucky so far (knock on wood!!!) and have a great job. If I were to get a crappy apartment it would take me close to 10 years to outright save up for the house that I have. If everything goes to plan (which sadly it doesn't always) I will have my house paid off in less than that time and I will get to spend all this time in my own house instead of in a crappy slum apartment.

[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Alright honestly I skimmed all this and can't be fucked to reply properly to you. Gma isn't rich anymore. Notice how I said she was rich. I'm not rich. Far from it. My family is not rich. Far from it. Nobody is buying shit for me. I was just passing on some advice that some rich fucks gave me when I was a kid. You don't have to take it so personally or so literally. Obviously you need a credit card for some shit but the basis of the advice is to not rely so heavily on it as so many people do. Also the powerful rich friends thing was meant sarcastically. Notice the tildes I edited in, hope that clears things up.

WhoMeNoHer ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:26:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not taking it so personally, I'm telling you that if you are a child and you are trying to get on without using any credit you'll be in for a real surprise. The whole point of my post is not that you need to rely on your credit, but that for the average American, you cannot live a good life without having good credit, or even average credit.

TL:DR NO CREDIT IS BAD... unless you're rich.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:50:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why does everyone aspire to buy a house? Rent is always an option

WhoMeNoHer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:45:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Renting is an option if you want, that's you're prerogative. I like owning a house because of the freedom I feel from not living on someone else's property. I don't have to worry about living in a trashy apartment or a house that the owner might end up selling and I would have to move out of. I also like the fact that my minimum mortgage payment (which includes property taxes and insurance) is cheaper than almost any apartment in the city that's about 15 miles from the town I'm in. It's probably around 300 a month more than a 2 bedroom apartment in my town, but at least 800 a month cheaper than comparable houses for rent in my town. Sure, I will have to pay some sort of cost with something going wrong with my house or for maintenance, but I don't mind paying that just for having my own place.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:29:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sorry mate, the essay you wrote had me assuming you were taking it personally. Lemme reiterate that this advice is not meant to be taken so strictly as you're all taking it.

alina_314 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:22:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not that it is "not meant to be taken so strictly", it's just wrong.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:14:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, you must be a financial expert then, right?

alina_314 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No credit is as bad as bad credit. It's awful advice to tell people not to get credit cards. Nobody has $500,000 outright to drop on a house without a mortgage.. We depend on loans and we can only get those by building credit.

ascriptmaster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:16:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad taught me when I was a senior in high school that if you make sure you never ever spend more than you can afford, and pay off the entire bill on time every time, it can be a decent way to build up credit. As I result I just end up being super wary of what I buy with my card and stuff

mensch_uber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:26:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Funnily enough, your credit benefits by doing the opposite. Your credit score is less of a "this guy is a swell guy to do business with" and more of a "this guy is someone we can get on the hook".

Better way is to buy something big, pay double the minimum payment for at least 6 months, then pay it all off in a 3 month chunk. They don't care if you can pay, they want you indebted. If you never let the interest hit you, even if its wiped out by paying double the minimum, your credit score won't benefit nearly as much.

ascriptmaster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:29:07 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's an interesting insight, so it probably depends on your situation. I forget how much your credit score affects things like buying houses and whatever.

My dad is self-employed and does construction, so he actively goes for credit card promotions that give some sort of bonus if you spend X money within the first 3 months, and spends that much on construction expenses, and then cancels the card before the annual fee rolls around. It's a system that works for him, but won't work for everyone.

mensch_uber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:54 on August 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

no no no that is smart. when i hit 18, i was prime for the pickings. i would get any card with a year of free interest that had no annual fees, just in case. never matteredcause i was bombarded with offers, but i kept it meager, had a bit of loyalty. 8 months in my first card, i accepted a new card at the exact same everything, and extended for another free year of interest. and transfered my debt over, paid it off quickly, and did it again a year after that with paypal. paypal was the worst card i ever had, maybe i hit the barrier of cost effectiveness, my age, or who knows, but i didn't get any offers so lucrative. then 2008 crash happened. my credit score, a free thing under my last card, had me at 731. for never owning a house and owning several cars outright, that was phenomenal.

you won't find that anymore, but the principal is the same. only thing i would add that might not be preferential is switching cards too often. i don't know about now, but even then, it was seen as a bad thing. you wanna have the card and work with it. otherwise you are just moving money around like a consigliere. and while they will work with you, you don't wanna see that amount of funds tied up

MaMaJillianLeanna ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:48:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I have zero credit and the bank is telling me the smartest way to build my credit right now would be to get a credit card... But like you, my parents made me fear credit cards so deeply. The bank offered to help me get one that borrows against my own money through them or something, but I still said no. I'll probably never be able to buy a house.

dockingrockets ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:37:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not afraid of them. I realized my parents were being overly cautious. You can have a credit card, and use it in an intelligent manner. It will build up your credit rating. It doesn't have to be a negative thing.

I literally use almost nothing but my credit card each month. I know how much money I make per month, so I know what my limits are. End of month rolls around, I pay it off.

Don't be afraid of something as simple as a credit card. They're actually quite easy to use and not nearly as scary as mom and dad make it seem as long as you're smart about it.

singularpotato ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:59:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I got the same type of "education". I'm 20 now, and have a manageable amount on the credit card with a solid income etc etc. I still can't tell my parents I have one because they'd kill me.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:38:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't charge what you can't or won't pay back, and never let a debt ride because those interest rates can eat you.

KickItNext ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 05:35:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought cranberry juice was gross because ours was always so bitter.

Eventually learned it was bitter because my mom poured vodka straight into the bottle so I, as a small child (like around age 5) would pour myself glasses of vodka cranberry without knowing.

Pistolf ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 05:13:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was a kid I asked my mom if oral sex was the same thing as French kissing. She said yes.

[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 10:25:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Depends which lips you kiss

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:54:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

( อกยฐ อœส– อกยฐ )

MonsterKabouter ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:33:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well that's one way to avoid that conversation. Not being awkward > sexual education

DarksteelPenguin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:18:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sorry I laughed.

harchickgirl1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:25:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's possible that she didn't know.

Some people were more innocent back then.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:38:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good lord, how old is OP and his mom?

Pistolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I believe I was 12 at the time. I didn't learn what actual oral sex was until I was 15.

Pistolf ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:46:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, we were more innocent back in the late 00's.

Severinx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, usually you kiss someone after either act so there has to be some kind of cross-contamination right?

intronink ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 05:03:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

To stand up whenever a female walks into the room, once she is seating you may sit down again.

like2000p ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 11:55:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds extremely Victorian

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:29:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

your experience in school must not have been fun.

mikeymikeymikey1968 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:30:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your parents were spot on, until 1960.

hitops1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:54:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Does standing up for women bother a lot of people?

Jeditard ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:02:30 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I understand it's outdated, but I would love to be showed this much respect as a woman.

hitops1 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:45:45 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Literally every woman I know, I believe would appreciate this. Of course I understand some people get triggered by anything resembling a gender-specific reference.

fullofanswers ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 06:06:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Finish everything on your plate so you can have dessert." Now I realize that not only should I not finish everything on my plate if I'm full, I also should not eat dessert every single night... both are hard habits to break.

wd3war ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 10:01:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Finishing everything on your plate isn't bad and prevents waste. Having dessert every night isn't bad either and, in my opinion, can be something fun to look forward to. What is bad is preparing and shoveling huge portions of food onto a plate, gorging on all of that and following it up with HFCS laden drinks and foods.

Quality and portions, people.

[deleted] ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 02:09:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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BeefSamples ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:00:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well i hope you do. You're both valuable and loveable.

wd3war ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:40:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You have indescribable worth and you'd probably be surprised by how many people love you.

I struggle with the same thing though. But what I said is true. Please keep that in mind!

mohawk_ADE ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 04:17:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That watching your food in the microwave can give you cancer. Understanding what is and isn't ionizing radiation changed that lesson.

IntelligentPredator ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:03:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Even the most of ionizing radiation won't make your food carcinogenic. You would have to beam the food with neutron/proton beam in a nuclear reactor for that.

Thatguywiththename1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:46:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not the food, they're talking about being near the microwave while it's operating

daperson1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:57:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But it's not even that: the microwaves do not escape the microwave oven. That weird metal grille that covers the window and makes it hard to see inside? That's a Faraday cage. Entirely stops microwaves from getting out.

While microwaves aren't ionising, you really wouldn't want to put your head by the microwave while it's running if the door wasn't there. You've seen what happens to your food: that wouldn't do you an enormous amount of good, either :P

Blackberry3point14 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:25:18 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad would make people leave the room if the microwave was being turned on, I still do. I don't understand microwaves.

carm62699 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:20:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I always thought that steak had to be very well done because that was always how we ate it at home. And then one day my then girlfriend's dad made me a medium-rare steak. It was love at first bite.

mirshe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:27:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom's ex boyfriend always ate his steak like this. Cooked through so far that it might as well be a plank of rubber.

manaril ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:00:20 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same. I was made to believe any hint of blood was disgusting, immoral, and would make me deathly sick.

I guess that's valid and may apply to pork, and the middle ages.

tokyofoxglove ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 07:43:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Still unlearning all the toxic and abusive shit from my father. That I'll never succeed, I'm worthless, I don't deserve to be loved or treated well, my identity is disgusting, etc.

I'm unlearning the hate for my body that my mother taught me. I had an eating disorder and still struggle with it to this day, because of all the things she said to me. I'm also unlearning the contempt she held/holds for me for having a mental illness and how that impacts others. I'm unlearning that guilt. I'm learning to forgive myself the way my family and friends have.

I'm unlearning all my self hatred and am learning instead to love and appreciate myself for who I am, whatever flaws I may have.

manaril ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:21:53 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're beautiful, and deserve to be loved!

fufabunny ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 09:02:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nearly everything I do is emberassing. They wove my entire childhood around trying to keep me in fear of being emberassing of things they would do or tell me how stupid I looked all the time for doing arbitrary things like mouth along to songs I was listening to on my Walkman in the car. There's still times where I don't want to do things because it is so deeply engraved in me that I will just emberassing myself that I can't even make myself do it no matter how badly I want to. I'm working past it, but I've never properly danced in my entire life and I really want to. I love dancing. And so many of my friends are very into dancing, have done dance club things in school and been in dance crews and danced professionally. I go out with them all the time but I can't bring myself to do it and I hate myself a little bit for it. Stuff like that.

nowetbread ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:11:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was always embarrassing also. Everything I did and every word I said was and still is embarrassing to my mother. I was never allowed to disagree with anything ever. If I had a valid point, embarrassing. Now, I will replay every conversation I have and get scared I said the wrong thing. I can't make decisions and second guess everything.

The truth is that most people probably don't even notice me or anything about what I say. It helps to remind myself of this.

manaril ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:10:52 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't be scared. Even if they did notice, it's ok to be wrong, and in fact, it's not the end of the world to be a bit embarrassing. You don't have to wear that shame she taught you.

Deppfan16 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:19:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same for me except they hide under the guise of wanting to help and just wanting me to have friends.

manaril ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:09:03 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not a professional and have not dealt with this so I apologise if my though is invalid: but rather than just avoiding or working out what is and isn't embarrassing in order to be comfortable within these constraints, have you thought of just being a bit embarrassing, on purpose -- obviously within reason and nothing that will mortify you permanently -- to unlearn the fact that embarrassing yourself is some sort of tragic, offensive event?

I think sometimes it's ok to just let go and be a little bit embarrassing in a harmless way, and blush or laugh it off instead of feeling like your life has just ended. If you like the sound of this, maybe first try it in a place where you don't go often, such as on a holiday or something, so you have the comfort of knowing those people probably won't see you ever again.

I assume your parents were notably insecure and cared more about what other people might think than your comfort and just allowing you to be yourself. Could be good to undo that at the root, and release yourself from that insecurity, which doesn't have to be yours. I dunno, just a thought.

nytheatreaddict ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 11:47:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Doing things for myself isn't bad. I love my little sister- I get along with her the best out of anyone in my family. But a lot of things revolved around her when I was a kid. And I was always praised for not getting in the way or letting her pick everything or not asking for anything. No extra curriculars (other than band playing the instrument my mom played) for me- but my sister got acting and art lessons. Oh! And pets. I never had one. She had many.
Hell, even into college- my mom pushed me into a major I didn't really love so that I'd make money one day so I could take care of my sister because she was going to be an artist. Screw what I want, she gets her dream career.
Anyway, I can have interests and desires. And that doesn't make me a bad person.

Sonja_Blu ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:25:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit, why was she favoured like that?!

fivepercentsure ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:13:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

because she was the non kidnapped child.

nytheatreaddict ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No idea, honestly. I think part of it is my fault- I grew up to be a pushover who wanted praise and my sister is better at doing what she wants. So I never asked for much because I wanted my mom to be happy with me and not be like "ugh, why?" I don't blame my sister in any way.
I also think my mom really wanted me to be like her but to not switch from engineering to social work in college and then never have a career because my dad joined the army. She's said things about how she was good in math just like I was. ... except I wasn't. She forced the schools to put me in higher math classes. She really pushed law or med school. When I went to college I was assigned the pre- law and med group, even though I had no interest in it. I was the only one not considering law/med. I still think my mom called them and had me put there. I ended up with a poli sci degree instead of the dramatic lit one I wanted. I know that isn't the most useful, but I feel like I would have been more motivated to find internships and do well. Of course that wouldn't matter- the plan is for the boyfriend and I to get married, and he's in the Coast Guard. So long term career prospects? Not looking so hot.

manaril ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:24:52 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Surely it's not too late to study dramatic lit and start going for your own life and dreams. Did you know the average person changes careers at least several times in their lifetime? Probably around six! I assume you're not even that far into that life yet, don't be afraid of change.

37 and studying again

ButtmanNaNaNaButtman ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 02:41:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother taught us that you should throw your candy and popcorn trash on the floor in a movie theater. It wasn't that she was lazy or didn't care about the ushers. She genuinely thought that it was socially accepted, even encouraged. I don't know where she learned that.

t3n-inch ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:29:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

From someone who was an usher as a movie theatre.. Please clean up after yourselves. Sometimes we only have 5-10 minutes before the seating for the next movie starts and it's VERY difficult to clean up everyone's popcorn/candy/soda and sweep in the small amount of time while you're by yourself.

atomofconsumption ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:42:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I also am under the impression that you can just put your garbage on the floor.

Storm137 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:24:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's a reason there's a garbage can outside of most viewing rooms. It's not for your 3D glasses.

Think that's okay?

Try sitting down and your shoes get stuck because someone with the same mindset decided to throw their soda on the floor. It's disgusting.

Sixgill ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:37:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Idk about other countries (I'm from Ireland) but I've been to a good few cinemas that actually have an ad play telling you to leave your rubbish there so they can recycle it properly.

PilotQueen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:11:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In Spain when you're around town you look for the bars with the most stuff on the ground because that means it's popular with the locals and you'll get good drinks and food. At least that's what I've come to understand.

Jeditard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:01 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom was like this too. She also littered all the time. It was what she was taught by her mother and she never questioned it. I remember at a rather young age throwing my drinks and popcorn away in the movie theatre and finally making her realize that this was a shitty thing to do.

diaperedwoman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:19:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought this was normal.

TiltedTile ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:33:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nope.

ganon893 ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 04:32:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
  1. Yelling is not the best way to communicate your emotions
  2. Destroying things is not the best way to communicate your emotions.
  3. Insulting someone is not the best way to communicate your emotions.
  4. Listening to people is an effective way to get them to listen to you, so you can communicate your emotions.
  5. All men are not bad. It's not always the mans fault. All women aren't some innocent maidens who only do wrong when they have been wronged.
  6. If a women cheats, it's not the mans fault. He may have done things to damage the relationship, or even the significant other. But every adult is responsible for their own actions.
  7. Men have emotions.
Jeditard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:12:01 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like my mom raised you too!

FullRageQuit ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 08:38:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ok but sounds to me like your family taught you right of those are all the things they taught you you have to unlearn

ganon893 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:41:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think you misunderstood my post. I'm saying this is what I learned after unlearning what my parents taught me.

FullRageQuit ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 08:56:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Then you misunderstood the title of the thread

citynewbie11 ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 02:15:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wasn't allowed to express anger. At all. I'm a poor communicator so at times it's hard not to revert and just bottle it up, but no one wants to be the "cashier" so I keep working on it.

[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:54:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're not alone. I spent so much of my childhood/teenhood bottling up my emotions because showing any kind of unhappiness immediately meant guilt tripping and insults from my mother. I probably need to go to counseling because of the damage that's caused for me.

Fallacy_Spotted ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:08:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had the same problem and I reached a good point where I was calm but very clearly angry. It is significantly easier for me to express cold anger than hot anger and people seem to respond it much better than people that blow their top. Still takes a lot to make me angry though and sometimes I feel I should be angry at something when I am not.

TaurineLine719 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:10:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yea same if I showed any sign that I was angry my dad made fun of me or just got madder

CaffeinatedPixels ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:20:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm on the other end of that. As a kid my asthma medication caused violent mood swings which led to suspensions and PTC's. This led to a lack of friends, making my PC my friend, making me severely overweight now. I've tried to mellow out lately but I'm just going apeshit at the smallest things.

SpacebornKiller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same. I was never allowed to show any amount of anger without it being too much or unreasonable. It just made things worse because I always had to keep it inside.

vancity_77 ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 02:29:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Speling

StackinStacks ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 05:10:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Islam. Might get some hate for this, but seriously. It's not for everyone.

ThePaperSolent ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:40:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A lot of people nowadays are doing this. (This might not apply to you) in my Geography Class, we learnt that the 2nd generation of immigrants tend to move away from their parents in this (religious) respect. So if a Christian family moved to Saudi Arabia and the child fully grew up there, it is more likely that they will be more (not necessarily strictly) "Arabic".

DisposableHero85 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:17:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why would you get hate for that? No one religion is for everyone. That's why there are so many.

EpiCheesecake95 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 07:26:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Like pastafarian. Accept the Flying Spaghetti Monster as your one true savior.

DeFy_Logicc ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:22:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here! Went from being Muslim to being Christian to, now, being an atheist.

BreadCrumbles ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:43:34 on October 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel ya. I was raised in a Catholic home and one of my very good friends was raised in a Muslim home (funnily enough both of us ended up going to a Catholic school for a few years). Neither of us have continued to practice it after leaving home. She's an atheist and I'm an agnostic who is a little bit theistic of center.

Sometimes I get worried about mentioning this when the topic comes up because I'm afraid some bigots will use it as ammunition for their beliefs that all Muslims are "misogynistic, backwards terrorists" when it's like nearly all of the misgivings she had with how her family taught her Islam are the same ones I had with Catholicism, would you say all Catholics are "misogynistic, backwards terrorists"?

like2000p ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:49:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As far as religions in developed countries go, it's pretty oppressive.

TheWeekdn ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:53:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Especially if you're a female.

The men in the household dominate everything, and the women try to shame the younger women, as in "I had to be oppressed during all of these years, you'll be oppressed too".

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:02:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_feminism historically, it's a lot more complicated than that. This aspect is mostly cultural, not part of the religion itself. Egypt, for instance, has a long history of feminism, and we've all seen this one video https://m.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/3jiobh/1958_when_muslims_laughed_at_the_idea_of_imposing/

Sorry for the crappy link formatting, on mobile

RedditUserEleventy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:53:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What's scary is that it was progressive by the standards of the time and place that it started.

ravenxrose ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:04:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ex Christian, I completely understand

MacadamNumber ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:03:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ex Muslim high five! <3

Unmormon2 ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 02:21:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mormonism.

HeyShayThatRhymes ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:33:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Congratulations on your freedom

Unmormon2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:18:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks!

PM_ME_NUDES_IN_SOCKS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:35:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Username Checks out

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:20:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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Unmormon2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:24:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Most days I'm good. Unfortunately all my family is still in.

dalg91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:23:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What??? Damn. I was hoping to get 14 wives. Or was it a 14 year old wife?

Unmormon2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:26:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why not both?

EvanGilbert ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:08:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Nothing fun happens after midnight."

Lunatic335 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:29:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your parents don't know about the MIDNIIGGHHTTT MUUUNNNCCCHHHIIIEEEESSSS.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:47:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

thats a tough one.

Electricengineer ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 06:53:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandmother states that my grandfather came over on the titanic. Turns out he came through Shreveport Louisiana on a boat. Common theme: a boat... Titanic will do

shirleytwoshoes ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 09:12:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the earth is only 6,000 years old.

lumpymattress ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:41:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It blows my mind that people actually teach this. My family is very religious (I'm not really anymore), but they still accepted that earth was very old. They even taught me evolution and the Big Bang, just they said that God was the one that started it all in motion. Which I'm fine with, honestly. It's not that farfetched in the whole realm of religion.

shirleytwoshoes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:37:02 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah. I had to re-learn evolution and the Big Bang just a few years ago. It finally connected, but I still have trouble explaining it as well as I should be able to.

lumpymattress ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:09:45 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's kind of hilarious to me that even if it isn't your belief, people won't even learn evolution. What ever happened to keep your friends close and your enemies closer lol

shirleytwoshoes ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:40:24 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I guess because eventually it'll make sense (if you learn actual evolution and not a condensed Christian-science version). Once I actually got a decent grasp on it, it furthered my non-theistic views even more, and I'm sure that's what the creationists want to avoid or ignore altogether, which is actual factual science.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:17:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And/or: that God exists.

SlimieMaskedUp ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 02:52:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Whenever something is offered for free take as much as you can, free packets of soy sauce? Take 10 even tho you will use 2... In general its just greedy

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:51:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or cheap

narudeus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:28:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

my aunt has : ''if someone from the family offers you something,take it all,it's safe''

GravityBringer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:43:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What

Jeditard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:14:15 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haha, my family is like this too. It is so wasteful!

bgong7 ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 00:53:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the only person you should date is ones of the same race (Chinese).

[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:46:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:56:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:04:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:21:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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BreadCrumbles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:49:12 on October 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think the assumption that someone who's Malaysian definitely wouldn't speak Arabic might be a little bit racist, but I think your mother's concern is significantly less malicious than a lot of anti-interracial marriage shit my family taught me.

Like my dad compared black/white marriages to bestiality.

My dad grew up and lives in New England if you're wondering

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:35:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yep, my parents too. (Mexican)

My mom has stated to me many times she thinks that interracial marriages are wrong, and I'm just so stupefied I had no idea how to tell her to look at her marriage. Married the same "race" (I know Mexican is an ethnicity) and my dad treats us all like shit.

Not saying interracial marriages can't be abusive themselves, but I know she only says that because my fiancรฉ is Jewish and she doesn't like that. (Jewish is an ethnoreligion.)

Epistaxis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:17:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well... that doesn't exactly narrow down your dating pool very far.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:57:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But I'm not Chinese, how can I date?

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:12:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If my experience has taught me anything, the hottest guys are mixed-race. Especially if it's Asian-Western, e.g. Australian/Malaysian or Japanese/Italian.

bgong7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:07 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes I feel the same way but about girls. Funny thing is my cousin (who has parents with the same feelings as mine do) tried to reason with his parents by using Dannie Riel as an example. Sadly, it didn't work though.

fuckswithducks ยท 21586 points ยท Posted at 23:30:33 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was growing up, my parents had a list of things they thought I should do to become a man. They'd warn me that I would never get a wife if I was a picky eater, couldn't fix a car, or didn't know how to do manly things. I gave it my best effort to improve to their ideals, but in the end I found that it didn't matter.

While having those qualities were helpful in life, I found that they really didn't matter in a relationship. I was able to find a great girlfriend who accepted me for who I am. She even lets me keep my rubber duckies in the bed with us at night.

daves69 ยท 10722 points ยท Posted at 23:42:59 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You motherfucker

Timett_son_of_Timett ยท 4140 points ยท Posted at 00:34:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Reading usernames 101

Richierayqua ยท 833 points ยท Posted at 01:04:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stacia_Asuna ยท 682 points ยท Posted at 02:02:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 107 points ยท Posted at 03:17:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have never seen this account before. This is fantastic!

taws34 ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 03:28:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

201 with /u/_vargas_

ExtraSmooth ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 03:57:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You gotta know /u/_vargas_ just to get into the university

ninja36036 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:12:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

202 with /u/Unidaโ€”oh wait...shit.

Kendo16 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:30:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can't uniban the...somethin' or other.

Zileas142 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:14:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What ever happened to unidan? I wasn't here when he left so I'm out of the loop

ninja36036 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:33:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

From what I heard, he got his/her main account banned for vote manipulation. It was a huge thing because everyone trusted Unidan, but ultimately were let down. I think he/she is still around, however, but under another name. /r/outoftheloop might have some more on it, so you can poke around there if you want to know more.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:39:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

/u/UnidanX. Last time I checked they were mod of /r/Circlejerk

Artiemes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:03:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Here's the thing...

Unidans_Spirit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:12 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Im still here motherfucker

Krutonium ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:52:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:51:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
dolphin-monkey ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:16:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit, /u/rambles_off_topic is back!

NerdRising ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:46:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cronurd ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:48:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
allsortsashit ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:01:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cancer is horrifying enough for adults. It's unimaginable that a child should have to face something so utterly ...

This comment eventually became a recipe for Mexican food. These posts are NSFL.

spiritcrusher77 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:59:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

/u/Trust_me_l_am_a is also an expert in the field.

probablyhrenrai ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:02:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
RippinNTearin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:22:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

RIP my favorite /u/ClintTacklessberry/

Kinky_Jew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:00:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

he hasnt posted in 85 days:( i hope he's alright

GammyIsGettingUpset ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:26:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God dammit I love this account.

electrosides ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:32:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit that guys comments are fucking gold

itsactuallyobama ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:47:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Rogersimon10 hasn't been around in 10 months sadly :/

bgzlvsdmb ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:17:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dad finally shut his ass up with those jumper cables.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:38:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

/u/rogersimon10 hasn't posted in fucking forever.

Sad.

Warchemix ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:41:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Damn I miss /u/rogersimon10 now, his posts were hilarious.

King_Vlad_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:26:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Last post 310 days ago. Rip /u/rogersimon10

runealex007 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:15:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I miss that guy so much

altiuscitiusfortius ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:26:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Poor rogersimon. I fear his dad finally went too far. He hasn't been around in so long.

toeofcamell ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:02:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

10 months

It's been 10 months, maybe his dad beat him to death

Artrobull ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:08:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i have rogersimon10 tagged as "asume bullshit"

KokoaKuroba ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
arod13134 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:15:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He's the guy who always gets beat by his dad with a pair of jumper cables. Just look through his comment history, it's pretty funny.

KeenBlade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:31:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's a good thing I tagged him "Jumper Cables Guy" or I'd have no idea of his significance here.

ocha_94 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:29:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's not fun though. I used to have fuckswithducks tagged but it took the fun out of his comments.

LankyDrummer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:17:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So where is shagga son of dolf?

Timett_son_of_Timett ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:54:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In the game of thrones, obscure minor characters either disappear or die. Shagga and I are chillin in the wings waiting for the final act so we can swoop in, kill others, fuck biddies, and ultimately win the game outright. I am the true King of the Vale!

LankyDrummer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:51:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

gonna feed the night kings frozen cock to the goats ay?

shadow_fox09 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:16:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was just waiting for the "beat me with jumper cables" line.

Or the super gross twist at the end to make it u/Vargas.

Or the follow up, "are you the guy from that war lizard gaming forum?"

Nobody ever expects u/fuckswithducks

caremal5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:45:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

*motherducker

bald_and_nerdy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:38:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

IKR the username clearly says it's ducks not mothers

TheGinofGan ยท 165 points ยท Posted at 00:30:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

duckfucker

ftfy

ItsMeShitmonlee ยท 95 points ยท Posted at 00:36:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Motherducker*

Thimble ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:48:03 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

rubberducker

justkilledaman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:05:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
  • duckerfucker
gregIsBae ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:36:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Read his username you fool (the duckfuckers)

xXmlgproscopeXx ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:50:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

*motherduckerfucker

TedTheViking ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:36:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Rubberducker

MackzD ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:13:18 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No no no, you mean duckfucker

DlProgan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:46:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Got him extra tagged with bright color but still read before seeing my tag.

CAMEL_DICK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:15:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think you mean duck fucker

2happycats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:14:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Duck fucker

DA-9901081534 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:41:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Rubberduckerfucker*

ThePugmanJJ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:35:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Duckfucker*

DT777 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:10:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can clearly see in his username. He's not a mother fucker, he's a duck fucker.

DirectorChick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

duckerfucker

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think you mean

motherducker

purplemoosen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Duckerfucker

SparksTrapQueen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:32:50 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No duckie fucker.

Moron10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:28 on September 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think you mean you duckfucker :)

slovenry ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:50:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

*duck

GRat9717 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:33:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

*You duckfucker

fireork12 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:51:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He's the Cera guy of Reddit

dodo_gogo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:59:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haha

My3centsItsWorthMore ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:05:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

gets me everytime

shifty313 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:07:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Uhhh-aahh! Temper temper!

Batraxin ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:20:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Didn't read username til that last part.

Catleesi87 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:23:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Read this as "motherducker"

krails ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:24:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

motherducker

MyriadMuse ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:28:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

*duckerfucker

ImSoNotPerfect ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:55:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You motherducker

_Lemongrab ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:00:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You motherducker

Rhioms ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:06:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I believe that's duck fucker to your!

awwaygirl ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:21:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

*motherducker

Evilldeadd ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:27:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Duckfucker

Ftfy

emdave ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:13:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

*motherducker

[deleted] ยท 724 points ยท Posted at 01:03:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

[deleted]

D45_B053 ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 02:28:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Duck rolled"?

I like the sound of it, let's see if it catches on!

andrewia ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 07:53:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Now that is a vintage meme.

aelias36 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:11:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fun fact: Rick roll comes from duck roll! http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/duckroll

[deleted] ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 03:40:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

[deleted]

D45_B053 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 03:56:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit, you weren't pulling my leg!

Blaphlafagus ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 06:18:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We literally went full cycle

pinotpie ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:11:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We did it Reddit?

SchrodingersCatPics ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:57:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Full. Circle.

instaweed ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:25:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Now that's an old meme.

spiral6 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:55:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Full circle indeed.

kckeller ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:04:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

chick rolled

Darrian ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:53:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How? Rick rolling was a joke. This guy actually does fuck with ducks. I mean, it's become tongue in cheek for sure, but dude really likes his ducks.

3p1cw1n ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:55:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Except this guy is serious. Sure, he baits you in and then surprises you with the ducks, but he's telling the truth the whole time, he's not just a novelty account.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:36:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well I reckon it's better, actually

Doomsauce ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:00:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Zubination ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:07:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly, I wasn't sure whether to invite for the smirk or down vote for the face palm

RedS5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:11:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think you mean better than.

myleskilloneous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:35:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ducked up?

DucksGoQuackQuack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:43:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Duck cucked

Loki364 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:01:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Getting duck rolled... Mother of god, the meme has come full circle.

L_H_O_O_Q_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:54:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Duck rolled.

QuinnNotTinTarantino ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:57:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just got duck rolled.

NarohDethan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:20:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Duck rolled

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
CommanderClit ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:13:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

duck rolled

FTFY

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ theonecalledzach ยท 2741 points ยท Posted at 01:19:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

/u/fuckswithducks commented on my post. I feel blessed.

[deleted] ยท 105 points ยท Posted at 03:45:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can never tell if it's a con, or if he has a serious duck fetish. I like to imagine somewhere out there is a man obsessed with rubber duckies.

Christopher135MPS ยท 188 points ยท Posted at 04:54:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Check his post history. It is laden with links to streaming porn vids that also include rubber ducks.

At this point, if it's a con, he's lived the con for so long, and so thoroughly, that it's become his reality anyway.

But I don't think it's a con. I just think he's embraced what makes him happy in the bedroom. More power to him.

MyNameIsBarryAllen ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 10:45:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And he's paid serious money to have duck porn made.

Christopher135MPS ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 12:27:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait, seriously? Damn, that is some serious commitment to your fetish! :D

Maskirovka ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:07:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nice try, fuckswithducks alt account.

Ask_John_Smith ยท 77 points ยท Posted at 04:44:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He's seriously obsessed. I think he's making his own duck themed porno

Tbklstkat26 ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 05:02:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He's already done that

tambry ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:07:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Link for research, please.

Tbklstkat26 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 05:15:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hbk1966 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:20:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This shit is gold.

tabarra ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:41:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow, spoilers dude!!!

Tbklstkat26 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:29:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I haven't watched them

scrumbud ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:02:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I will never be able to listen to Ernie singing โ€Rubber Ducky" the same way again.

SluggishJuggernaut ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:59:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I want to watch... But I know I'll never be able to unsee it.

Tbklstkat26 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:16:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A little mystery is always nice. I think a lot of people are interested in watching to validate /u/fuckswithducks but with 7 billion people on Earth why wouldn't there be a guy with a rubber duck fetish?

Tbklstkat26 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:13:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Give me a few but I got you.

gijose41 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:14:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Already did

Flemz ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 04:53:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

He's for real. There was one post where he identified this super rare rubber duck template used in like the 70s and knew its entire history and showed such enthusiasm that only a lifelong connoisseur could.

Edit: minor text fixes

[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 05:02:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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ajr901 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 05:21:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

IBM's Watson set to "Fuck around with reddit" mode.

BattleHall ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:05:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair, if I had the most advanced AI in the world at my disposal, that's exactly the kind of thing I would have it do. Mostly to distract it from the whole, y'know, "kill all humans" deal.

furmat60 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:45:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

/r/pokemongo is leaking

Naf5000 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:50:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
SluggishJuggernaut ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:00:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Very hesitant about clicking...

secretlyacuttlefish ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:48:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't think it's a fetish so much as a duck collector.

SluggishJuggernaut ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:58:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If he does, I would seriously send him a few.

craftyj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:18:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's real. The dude literally commissioned a porno movie featuring rubber ducks so he could have some gap material. He's probably the greatest thing reddit's ever exposed me to.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:56:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:00:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Check the parent. He.

Shraker ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:39:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We are all you on this blessed day.

crozone ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:40:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Speak for yourself

Farewel_Welfare ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:04:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am all you on this blessed day.

Rockonfoo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:15:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He's been MIA for a little while now hasn't he?

BattleHall ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:03:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you based fuckswithducks!

cluckay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:58:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We are all duck fuckers in this blesses day

Scarletfapper ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:06:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

FWD really is the new tree fiddy

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:09:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

/u/fuckswithducks commented on my post. I feel blessed. #blessed #whatareyoudoingtothatpoorduck

ThatCurlyHairedKid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:51:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

papa bless

here_for_the_lols ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:05:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just makes you one of 100s if not 1000s a day mate

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ theonecalledzach ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:06:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shh, shh, shh... Let me have this

HanJunHo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:01:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't get it. Is this a "Reddit celebrity"?

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 04:28:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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someonepeedyourpants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't ruin the magic

Distroid_myselfie ยท 1094 points ยท Posted at 00:23:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Every. Goddamn. Time.

SinisterMJ ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 12:23:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I kind of love it though :D I read until the "lets me keep my rubber duckies" (I didn't even finish the sentence), and my eyes immediately darted to the user name!

greywar777 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:04:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know right? He gets us because for the first part its all so reasonable.....but it always ends the same way. And you're all "Every. Goddamn. Time.".....

mcJustWas ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:54:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Except... He actually does have a duck obsession. If I recall correctly, he has commissioned porn with ducks in it? Or at least has a collection of it. Can you confirm /u/fuckswithducks?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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cruyfff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know right? He doesn't get it because the first part is so obvious.....but he points it out anyway. And you're all "Super insightful"........

DucksDoFly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:55:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's why we fly, to get away from him.

zeekaran ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:54:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fucking hell, the one time I use my phone instead of the desktop that has bright pink flairs to warn me.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:45:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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Manning119 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:18:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's half the fun though not knowing it's coming

numbfeels ยท 775 points ยท Posted at 00:23:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Rubber ducks? checks username Oh, it's you again.

gnome1324 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:14:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do you feel numb?

machenise ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:19:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, it's you again!!

FTFY

Also acceptable: "Oh, you!"

vonpoppm ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:30:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You get to the last line and then you just know. You know who it is.

Amberleaf29 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:43:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I just kind of thought to myself, "Of course."

Vio_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:44:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He's maybe the nicest redditer celebrity too. I've never heard a bad word against him.

Rynetx ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 02:52:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I saw a guy riding a motorcycle around with a rubber duck glued to his helmet. I instantly thought of fuckswithducks. Your bleeding into my reality.

Neon_Platypus1 ยท 231 points ยท Posted at 01:08:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're the reason I always look at the username before reading a comment.

jedontrack27 ยท 237 points ยท Posted at 01:14:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Surely that ruins the fun of it?

[deleted] ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 01:21:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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StingsLikeBitch ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 04:14:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well then you don't always look now do you?!?! Especially if it's always a fun surprise! You need to dictionary.com the word "always".

[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 04:23:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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StingsLikeBitch ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:27:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Always

Moondragon_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:36:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not really. Sometimes I forget to be fun.

cjpack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:51:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No no you're doin it wrong. Use that when someone isn't being sarcastic. You need to memedefinition.com that sentence.

jedontrack27 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:10:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

hmm, fair enough! I think for me the part i enjoy is the 'why is this guy going on about ducksohshithegotmeagain' moment

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:22:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You could just not look.

Awkward_moments ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:21:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some people don't find them fun.

DataFork ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:37:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not Vargas?

COPE_V2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Definitely Vargas

Jacosion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:37:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Vargas did that for me.

Salvo1218 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I usually pick up on him pretty quick but this time I walked right into it

Avelheda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wasn't doing that until now. Fuck

ajr901 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I stopped doing that back when I would recognize a vargas post halfway through. Now I just make it to the end and check afterwards.

Smugjester ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:43:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That one motherfucker that hallucinates owls in every picture is the reason I always read names.

puppyboy26 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:16:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We have some backstory to u/fuckswithducks

HAHAHAHAHAHA5 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:21:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am available for marriage

Gizmo-Duck ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 01:22:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

but you haven't gotten a wife... so far, your parents were right.

AMHousewife ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:14:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I own all the power tools in my house. My husband barely knows what to do with them. I enjoy doing the fixing. He doesn't. He writes poems and has cooked the meals all summer. We've been married a long time.

AOEUD ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:31:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The question of your gender finally resolved!

Pizza_Delivery_Dog ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:02:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

god fucking damnit

Help_I_think_Im_Emo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:58:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

god ducking* damn it

FTFY <3

rippel_effect ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:44:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck

DerpYoshi ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:44:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

YOU.

_LuckyDucky_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:40:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For what it's worth, I think you are a fantastic man. I love anyone who has learned to live with themselves - except kiddy fiddlers. Those dudes and dudettes are invalid humanoids. But you, Fucky, I love.

PM_ME_UR_GUBBINS ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:33:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Every. Single. Time. How? How do you do it? Is it the ducks?

ColdLatvianPotato ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:13:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good to see you again, my friend.

kusajiatwork ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:13:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God damnit.

Faugh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:23:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You really should've gone with "DuckieRubber".

ketlourd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:36:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can't believe you made me read that with my own 2 eyes

USxMARINE ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:01:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Son of a god damn bitch, if I ever see you in the streets, I'm gonna punch you till you quack.

Csantana ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:51:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

not gonna lie I was really hoping you turned out gay. Like "Jokes on them I didn't do all those things and I have a husband" but yeah ducks are fine too.

avapoet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:02:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I gave it my best effort to improve to their ideals, but in the end I found that it didn't matter.

So you'd say: you tried so hard, and got so far, but in the end it doesn't really matter?

SuperiorAmerican ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:16:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yo /u/fuckswithducks, I know you're into rubber ducks and all, but real ones? There's an all black duck that lives on the river by my dad's house. Is that rare? I can't find much info on them. I have pics of it I can post. Thanks, Ducks.

marlow41 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:28:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This guy fucks. With ducks.

warhawks ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:03:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You gotta check his post history. I don't believe this is a joke...

Shooterr_ ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 02:09:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not, dude is serious about his rubber ducks.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:21:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everything was normal till I saw your username.

I died laughing, and I'm typing this from the afterlife, which is full of dank memes.

BeardsuptheWazoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:05:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God, I've missed you.

as_a_fake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:11:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God dammit.

ecdw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

GODDAMNIT

pootershots ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

NOO.

Ansonm64 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:40:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hardest I been trolled in a long time.

IAmGoingToFuckThat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This makes me really happy!

SLR52 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Did you go to the 2016 Bellaire Rubber Duck festival?

J0RDM0N ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:58:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The real question is have for you is how many tubby duckies are in your bed and is your girlfriend at least part duck?

BannaMonster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Damn it. It's been so long.

AGirlNamedRoni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You got me!! I feel so foolish.

Krunchy1736 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

EVERY TIME!

33whitten ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

EVERY TIME

Xalteox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fuck, got me reading till the end. Haven't seen you in a while, no longer used to reading the username because of it.

Gorthaur111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why do people upvote this? Why do people think this is funny? It's the same goddamn thing every time.

BurtKocain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, as long as you weren't beaten up with jumper cables...

Erj2969 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God damnit man

Silist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair, they said wife and you only have a girlfriend

Ditto8353 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Damn. You get me every time. You're definitely my favorite person on Reddit.

gingermagician2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

every time i fall for it, and every time i forget to tag you, NOT NOW FUCKER!

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:13:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Every fucking time.

TheElectriking ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:14:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

EVERY. TIME.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah... until she has car trouble.

nick_bleuer76 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God damn it you yellow fuck

TehKatieMonster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom was a mechanic, and she could do all the fishing rod maintainance among other things you parents would consider manly. My dad barely knows how to do anything but housework. XD

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's really kind of sweet.

FixBayonetsLads ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So how's the porn going, dude?-

Wickedflex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You strike again.

Jacosion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh hey it's you. Don't ever stop ever.

abxyz4509 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

At first I was like: "Huh, this is a normal post."

Then I got to the end and thought "/u/fuckswithducks?...(looks at username)... Yep..."

HiMyNameIs_REDACTED_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

'Hey look. Cancer.'

crmpicco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not again. Not again...

weary_dreamer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:42:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Motherfucker. Every time.

weary_dreamer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:42:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Motherfucker. Every time.

bobbydillon22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is this the new jumper cables guy?

DammitChris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:54:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I mean how does this happen to me every single time I just don't get it

Bloodloon73 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

OH IT'S YOU!

TJzzz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

SON OF A DUCK!

Potatoe_away ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The guy that get's off on rubber ducks is married and I'm not. yayyyyy!

4609203 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She even lets me keep my rubber duckies in the bed with us at night.

Wait a second...IT'S YOU!

MatterStorm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:08:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

you are annoying

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:15:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

reads post, checks username God damn it.

Spexor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:27:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God damnit.

The80sBleach ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:34:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

OH FUUUUUUUUUCK YOU!! EVERY TIME!!! You have fast become my fav.

TheMightySGK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:35:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fuuuuuuuck. I love you

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:47:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"What?" Reads username. "God damnit. You bastard. Mother Fucker."

ps I have a rubber duck in my car. It matches the color of the vehicle. I love it.

Back2Beantown ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:53:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Every ducking time

Pi4zza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:56:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Soon as i saw the word ducks i knew exactly who the fuck wrote this lol.

Cardboardboxkid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:59:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

FUUUUUUUUCKKKK. To the last few words. This one pissed me off you duck loving bastard.

srgwidowmaker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:25:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

this guy fucks

Stormsource ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:35:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Every ducking time

notduddeman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:40:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I love you /u/fuckswithducks. Never change.

Dogpool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:42:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You say that, but I have to meet a woman who didn't dig it when I do the manly "manly" things.

HaroldLott ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:42:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

FUCK

TruthFromAnAsshole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:44:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

are you me?

idbangkatebeckinsale ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fucking hell...

felesroo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:21:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Awesome, and you're totally right. Though my husband is a picky eater and good god it makes life SO much more difficult. No one should be super picky outside of reasons like keeping Kosher or vegetarianism. Reducing your menu options to chicken fingers and hamburgers makes a person a tiresome partner.

Puttanesca621 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:34:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like a duck.

MrYamaguchi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:37:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I personally find picky eaters to be a big turn off.

SD__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:40:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If I'd accepted my parent's advice I'd be a miser who gives away money to strangers. Father and Mother respectively.

.

I let my (then) GF take a tin of paint and make flowers all over my white car. She had a nice arse in jeans. She was supposed to do it naked but I was a bit pissed and couldn't recall our bet.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:54:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Until I come along and take your girlfriend from you while emasculating you in the process.

vriendhenk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:55:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is actually a skill...

hmistry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:56:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's another 15 seconds I'll never get back. AGAIN. Take this upvote, fold it in half. Then half again, then shove it up your ass.

dungeon_plastered ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:06:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Wow this is a really insightful co-....rubber ducks....GODDAMNIT!!!"

perrymanon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:40:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Didn't read the username, you always fucking get me!

ixora7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:42:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

FUUUCKKKKKKK!!!!!

Always check the username first ixora always check that first.

Niqqashieet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:30:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I read the text first, when i reached the ducky part I knew you struck again

PopavaliumAndropov ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 04:37:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I once asked my dad what an 'overhead cam' was after seeing an ad for a car and he told me ' you know the bump under your feet when you sit in the middle of the back seat? Well that's the cam shaft it rotates and that's what drives the rear wheels. With an overhead cam that goes above your head so there's more legroom in the middle seat'.

My dad is a surgeon.

CaseyAndWhatNot ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:51:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your dad was probably trolling you.

PopavaliumAndropov ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:25:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, he's an idiot. That was when I was eight, when I was in my mid-20s I was visiting him and doing some work around his farm, I was using the weed whacker and it sounded horrible, so I took it to the garage...my father walks in and sees me adjusting the carburetor screw and started shouting like he'd caught me attempting to remove my own kidney, took the weed whacker off me and drove it to the local chainsaw mechanic to have it looked over. He tinkers in peoples' insides but machines are a source of spooky magic to him.

Geodude671 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:55:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
King_Dynamo ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 07:21:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm smart. I was always praised for that, not for working hard. I sat on my high horse and developed no study habits.
I got A's until high school, and even then put in the bare minimum as my grades sunk. You can be the best test-taker in the world, but if you're tested on retention of information, and you haven't even cracked the book, you won't do well. Being smart is not in itself a virtue. Nobody is going to give you a trophy for being smart. An idiot is the valedictorian because she busted her ass. The dude who speaks like a gangbanger scraped you at chess because he studies the game. The biggest douchebag you know can code software because he hunkered down and learned. Nobody gives a fuck what you are, only what you do. So you have to go out and do dope shit.

Jeditard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:19:49 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The story of my life.

JDogg_of_RS ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 01:23:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That all black people were Satan and hell bent on destroying America.

HiMyNameIs_REDACTED_ ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:46:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

'Next time on: Growing up southern!'

ThePaperSolent ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:36:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So 1900s, everyone knows it now Muslims doing this!

Help_I_think_Im_Emo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:39:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mormon, Christian, or just plain racist?

Stealthman13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Been down the Mormon track... Backed out of that a year ago

scuzpwns ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 05:10:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Muslim, Jewish?

JediMindTrick188 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The south man...

hiiipowerculture ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:12:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

then why the fuck did you bring us here? Fucking Americans..

mensch_uber ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 10:18:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

well at least we didn't mutilate every last one of you. ever wonder why there are no blacks in the middle east? hint... they were taking africans as slaves for far longer than the usa has been a country. do you really think you'd be better off starving or being taken as a modern day slave or killed in some civil war in africa?

oh, and it could be worse. we coulda taken in a hell of a lot more like Brazil. seen how lovely a place that is?

ppl never talk about white and asian slaves. even tho there were more of them, and were treated far worse as they weren't worth as much. gotta love reverse racism and reverse cultural appropriation.

A-Wild-Porno-Attacks ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:49:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

300 years of slavery. Boiled in oil, whipped, starved, having their children slaughtered in front of them and subjected to the same treatment, treated as sub-human, raped; male and female alike. Burned alive, spat at, tortured, worked to death, all this being kidnapped from their home.

With effects that were only escaped if you were half-white or mulatto, or if you were a woman menstruating, and even that was dependent on the plantation owner.

Indentured servants were respected -- enslaved, but respected and had most basic human rights. Blacks were and are treated like dirt that still bleeds into modern society from people like you that try to justify their own bigotry.

Racism is well and alive, and just under closed curtains, and under people's breaths or in their own homes. And yes, it applies to every race, even Caucasians -- but that doesn't invalidate the individual struggles of each race, where even instances of black people bleaching their skin because of the ingrained stigma that dark skin is bad.

Get your head out of your ass and do some research before you make claims of, "It could be worse."

hiiipowerculture ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:05:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

thank you!

mensch_uber ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:43:27 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i take the karma hit, for you.

hitops1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:04:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Actually if you do some research, what is remarkable about America is not slavery. Slavery was everywhere, the worldwide norm. What's remarkable is that America was second to get rid of it (UK was first).

Above poster comes across poorly, but is somewhat factually correct. Slavery went on in the ME long before America was a country, and continues there to this day.

mensch_uber ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:25:53 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

not if you went east. east meant death. as a female, you might make it for a few pregnancies. but you were a sex slave. any child was killed accordingly. and all males were castrated. this means 9 in ten died. and the middle east couldnt care less

typicalredditor8 ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 04:55:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents told me I was allergic to cheese for 18 years. I had my first pizza when I was drunk at around 20 y.o. and realized that I wasn't allergic. I missed out on 20 years of pizza because of those bastards ๐Ÿ˜ข

AncientCake ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:37:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In fairness, toddlers do sometimes have allergies that are outgrown / disappear later in life.

Maybe it caused you health problems as a youngster, and they were too scared to re-test it after?

typicalredditor8 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:31:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

No my mother just reads too much fake health news. She thinks she has a gluten intolerance, candida, and takes probiotics obsessively. Apparently it was trendy in the 80's and 90's to think dairy was bad for you. She's the kind of person that thinks everything Dr. Oz says is true and not motivated by his desire for sensationalism or ratings.

DarksteelPenguin ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:23:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

screams in horror

[deleted] ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 02:24:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:08:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you a woman or like the prettiest man?

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:16:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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goatcoat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:37:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What about /r/totallynotrobots?

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 06:47:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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alina_314 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:26:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You misunderstood..

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:12:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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alina_314 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:23:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's what she had to learn herself. I'm sure you can figure it out based on context, even though she didn't phrase her answer in the right way.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:49:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:30:47 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No offense but your parents sound batshit insane.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:13:22 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:05:04 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I guess being a survivor affects everyone differently, but I've never heard of sexual abuse victims thinking like that when they have kids. shrug

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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damargemirad ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:46:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can't mix orange juice and milk. Like, can't have orange juice if you have breakfast ceral with milk, ect. All those commercials with "balanced breakfeast" were so confusing as a kid.

Turns out my dad got sick on it once?

Jeditard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:17:14 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think that mixing orange juice and milk (not literally together, just drinking them at the same meal) iis disgusting.

Blackberry3point14 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:28:45 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well they are completely opposite! Ones acidic and the other is basic

manaril ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:13:15 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The theory exists because if you directly mix them, the milk will curdle.

illbecountingclouds ยท 110 points ยท Posted at 01:44:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

White upper middle class entitlement and that suburban mom judgement of people that don't fit with your fucking arbitrary values

Teaquanox ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:33:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good on you for unlearning that.

Amberleaf29 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:49:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents worked hard for what they have (they literally came here with nothing in the '80s, worked their way up to middle class), but even so, as a kid I kind of picked up some entitlement. No idea why - but it's easy to, when you are spoiled, and my word was I ever a spoiled child. Hell, I'm 20 now and they still spoil me! But I have learned to be grateful for what I have and not take anything for granted, so it worked out.

It's so easy, though, when all your friends have similar lifestyles when you're young, even if your parents don't specifically have that mindset of entitlement.

ZK1371 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:36:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can already see the bad dye job on her bob haircut asking for the manager

illbecountingclouds ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:09:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nah, it's a good dye job. You think she'd have anything less? Please.

white_butterfly1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:14:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't forget the giant sunglasses, big ol bangly bracelets and Starbucks.

Dragonfly42 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:18:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm having to teach myself that the opinions of others doesn't matter as long as I am happy and certain in my choices.

I was raised with the mentality that I have to impress everyone. People need to be impressed with my clothes, with my house, with my vocabulary and my intelligence. It was like I had to hold myself higher than others because I was better than them.

Heaven forbid I swear, or burp or have dirty dishes or holes in my shoes. These used to be things that I spent energy worrying about. I'm not going to put my life force into petty shit like that.

AngelFire23 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 04:55:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother never communicated with us or explained anything (which I'm seeing now is why she will never have a happy relationship). She would expect us to do the dishes, never say anything, and then explode... Yes children should do their chores, but she never taught us how to load the dishwasher or how to do laundry. When we got old enough to do these things she just expected it to happen. It took a few years in my late teens/early twenties of people not wanting to be my friend for me to figure out that you need to actually express your feelings and expectations to people.

Also flakiness... My mother used to (and still does) fully commit to activities and then not show up. I figured that one out early on because it hurt me so badly when she didn't come to my performances.

Prof_DBag ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:25:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Driving in the left-hand lane. My dad is a notorious left-lane camper. I remember after learning what the left lane was all about, I was with my dad on the freeway and he just kept complaining and complaining about "all the assholes speeding around him and cutting him off"...well yeah, because you're staying camped in the left lane!!

lumpymattress ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:44:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What pisses me off is when someone speeds around me and cuts me off when I'm doing the speed limit. Like it's called the speed limit, not the speed "give or take a few".

Parabolic_Ballsack ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 23:47:14 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That sitting too close to the tv will make me go blind.

ContiX ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:50:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This has some vague basis in fact, iirc. Something to do with radiation or something, but it's not nearly that serious, and I think the issue doesn't even exist anymore (both because of newer CRTs, and because people don't even really use CRTs anyway anymore).

muthafuckenkatlaydee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:49:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here, I was in my mid twenties before I realized that I sat too close to the tv because I was extremely near sighted but my parents avoided doctors like the plague so I didn't get my vision checked until far later than I should have. I would argue with my dad that I sat close to see it better and he'd yell that I was just going to get more blind if I kept it up.

vytria ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:20:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to get glasses and was far-sighted when I was a kid because I would sit too close to the tv all the time. Or so my family always told me.

bobdenby ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 05:19:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That acne and pimples are not the result of never washing your face. (or from your diet).

I washed my face raw as a teen and it didn't stop acne from breaking out. If my Mom would have taken me to a doctor instead of telling me I don't wash enough, I likely would not have the scarring on my face that has never gone away.

surgerygeek ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 12:52:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ugh. My mom told me that a good sunburn followed by a maintenance tan will dry up acne. I learned otherwise when I developed a melanoma at age 27.

waraukaeru ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 10:41:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a teen it's hormones, but as an adult diet definitely affects skin conditions like acne. I breakout if I eat crap food.

SkeletorXX ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:09:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom is an aesthetician and does chemical peels which helps remove some of the scarring. That's where I would suggest starting!

theawkwardintrovert ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:31:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As someone with rosacea and never had a proper skin care regime, THIS. The texture of my skin is finally being evened out and I'm looking and feeling a lot better!

Scummycrummyday ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:10:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel so bad for my stepdad. His dad never took him to a dermatologist even though he definitely could have afforded it working at GM. My stepdad had some pretty bad scaring on his face and he said he felt like a complete monster when he was in high school. It is totally heartbreaking to hear him talk about. When I started breaking out pretty bad he immediately took me to the dermatologist. (Which turns out I'm allergic to most facial creams and most of the antibiotics made me throw up but that's a whole other story)

toby1248 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:14:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

well technically not washing can make acne worse, but not that much worse, and being clean is not enough to solve it either.

hitops1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:48:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Had bad acne as well. True, washing face has minimal impact. However without a doubt, eating sugar and long hours in front of computer made it worse though. Accutane took care of it.

QueenLexa ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:45:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you feel conscious about it, try BioOil, it might not 100% fix it. But I've found a few scars of mine, including one under my nose that has grown almost impossible to see unless you know it's there. It's something I like to use so maybe it'll help you out.

SplitArrow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:55:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dirty skin will cause breakouts. Ask anyone who has to wear hats or helmets on regular basis. Of the liner isn't washed regularly you will get pimples in places that make contact from dirt and oils being pushed into your pores.

SassySauce516 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:21:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To see if that man is really homeless and not a fake, look at his shoes...i dont even know if thats useful

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:51:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What if he was just really lucky and recently found some new shoes someone threw away?

Rey16 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:17:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What if he recently came into a bit of money and was able to buy himself new shoes? Or someone else bought them for him?

batt3ryac1d1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:41:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's stupid. If the homeless person is smart they'll do their best to invest and keep a good pair of shoes. Good footwear is incredibly important especially when you walk around all the time cause you're homeless.

lancertownsend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:56:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've found it very useful.

[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:20:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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barto5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:22:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't forget to arn your shirts so they're not wrinkled.

[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:22:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How relationships are actually supposed to work

PaulyPickles ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:23:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Food becoming stale.

Parents divorced early on.

I lived with my mom until I turned 12. She never told me food went stale. I never really tasted the difference. Sometimes cereal or chips just weren't very good.

When I moved in with my dad, I learned real quick when I ate some very stale cereal and my step mother explained to me what happens to certain foods over time.

I was baffled.

thewrongdoor ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 06:24:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Feeling sexual arousal are feelings the devil gives you to tempt you to "devalue" yourself.

Nope, I am human, I have a body just like everyone else, and sex is awesome. It took many, many years into my marriage to get comfortable with having a body that does human body things.

panderpen ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:27:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That when someone raises their arm around/near you, they aren't necessarily going to hit you.

pieandlatteslover ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:46:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I still instinctively flinch.

panderpen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm getting better at it but sometimes I still do.

pieandlatteslover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:54:48 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm getting a bit better. Took me way too long to fully trust my SO, but I do now. I still get scared whenever he gets angry, but he's actually only ever gotten angry twice and we've been together three years. He's just super chill and doesn't feel like anger is a necessary emotion, it definitely shines a new light on things when you expect someone to react one way and they actually act rationally. One day I hope to be able to handle other people's anger without crying. Good luck to you. Congratulations on getting as far as you have. I know it's not easy.

slorpydiggs ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 06:54:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Chicken is inherently dry, "because I said so" is a valid argument, soap is useless unless it's antibacterial, gay people are fine but shouldn't talk about it, real estate is the best way to invest your money, you can be anything you want to be when you grow up (but also if you follow your dreams you'll be depressed and penniless), marriage is a war over who's always right, you should treat a 2nd degree burn with ice, never talk to strangers, clean your plate even if you're full.

fakepicasso ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I never understood, "Don't talk to strangers."

How the fuck am I supposed to make friends, then?

MacadamNumber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ikr? I am not allowed to go outside. And all of my friends are bad frequentations, of course.

fakepicasso ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:50 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And we are apparently secret drug dealers because we stayed out too late. Excellent parenting right there.

DarthUtopia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:05:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Huh, I thought antibac soap was worse for you than normal soap. Although I found out about this on Reddit so IDK if that's made up or onion or something

slorpydiggs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well that's why I had to unlearn it. Antibacterial is overkill most of the time and kills the healthy bacteria on your skin while regular soap is just as effective at removing germs.

pirathamster ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 07:11:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was about 3-4 years old my dad said that there was a button in every car that could make the traffic lights go green when approaching them. And he showed it by pressing the button for the fog lights. When it didn't work for us someone had pushed their button before we did.

oh_nohz ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 07:42:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When you kill a spider they let out a silent "scream" that attracts other spiders as a defense mechanism. For years I would shudder in fear if I saw a spider in my room, thinking that though it may kill me, the results of my defense may be far worse.

Thanks, Dad.

Lunatic335 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:55:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But I bet you had a fly free house eh? :D

throway65486 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Even more important probaply mosquito free

atleastitried9 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 05:33:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"I'm a waist of air for other people to use and a terrible human being that is just on the way of people that are worth it". Still trying to unlearn it...

Additional fun stuff: it's my birthday and not a single person, friend, family remembered, reached out, or anything. Makes it harder to unlearn the above... ๐Ÿ˜ž

seaofflames ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:12:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know I'm not your family or friend, but I'm just gonna say this: I believe that you are NOT a waste of air, you matter because you're a human being. Happiest of birthdays and may you have a great year ahead!

sweetalkersweetalker ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:13:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Happy birthday friend. You're a treasure and don't you ever forget it.

patchgrrl ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:09:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If no one in your circle could reach out to you, then you need a new circle, my love. Happy birthday and I wish you a fulfilling journey to better people in your life.

Liidi ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:19:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Happy birthday to you! You are most definitely not a waste of air and are worth every breath you take. โค๏ธ

Bambih ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:14:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Happy birthday <3

jfwag7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:51:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Happy birthday

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:13:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Happy birthday ๐ŸŽ‚๐ŸŽ‚๐ŸŽ‚๐Ÿ˜˜ and I'm sure that's not true.

ExistedMaster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:50:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Happy birthday!

sweetlifeofawiseman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:59:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Happy birthday! <3 you are a wonderful person with tons of potential, and I believe that you will do great things with your life!

t3n-inch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:32:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Happy birthday, dude! โค๏ธ

Helene796 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:45:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Happy Birthday. Get new friends. โค๏ธ

chaossensuit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:27:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Happy birthday!

pole829 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:34:56 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

have a happy birthday, you're not terrible

Keylime29 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:55:48 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Happy birthday!

CerealKillerOats ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:55:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Waste*

Keylime29 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:15 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought you were being insulting, then i realized you were just correcting a misspelling, but it took a moment

CerealKillerOats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:15:00 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Kk

AnonymousCorb ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 01:59:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To count with to ten without the number 5...they thought it was funny. 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10!

Toxicitor ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:22:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So you use the nonal system? i'm partial to dozenal myself.

geared4war ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:55:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair it kinda is.

Wishyouamerry ยท 133 points ยท Posted at 23:09:13 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I still haven't unlearned it, but I'm getting better: Being 15 minutes early for everything. if I'm supposed to be somewhere at 8:00, pulling up at 7:58 is so stressful for me. I'm finally comfortable with 7:55, but I don't know if I can go further than that.

obi_matt_kenobi ยท 223 points ยท Posted at 23:19:15 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This just sounds like being punctual. You shouldn't unlearn this!

edwartica ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 03:14:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's punctual, and then there's time and place. For instance....being fifteen minutes early for a party is kind of rude.

TheRustyNickel ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 04:36:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just wait around the block. I fail to see the issue.

But I am not a common partygoer

iprefertau ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 10:14:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But I am not a common partygoer

you are on reddit that sentence is redundant

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:52:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not if you offer to help! I love when a friend arrives early and sets up streamers, puts out snacks or whatever. Of course, if everyone did it that might be a bit much...

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:21:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I try to schedule myself to be around 15-20 minutes early for appointments, I kinda like that time just for having a quick explore of the general area, see if there might be some cool shops, cafes, restaurants about that I might want to check out sometime. Problem is that most of my friends are more inclined to do the opposite and I get pissy about waiting for them when they're late haha. Guess I need to unlearn being fairly impatient toward other people

PineMangoes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:55:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just be late on purpose with your friends?

NoApollonia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

being fifteen minutes early for a party is kind of rude

As long as you know the hosts well, just go on in and help clean and set-up. An extra set of hands is almost always appreciated. If you don't know the hosts well, wait in your car or nearby park and read a book/magazine for a little bit.

deadcyclo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:53:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But it can really go to extremes as well. I used to be this way when I was younger and it kept getting worse. I finally broke the circle when I was told at the airport that "sorry. Check in for your flight isn't open. You have to wait 50 minutes"

w1n5t0nM1k3y ยท 94 points ยท Posted at 23:21:42 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is actually a pretty good habit to have. Very few people can be consistently right on time, because things, like traffic, or forgetting where you put your keys happen from time to time. Without a doubt, the people I know who usually show up at 8:59 most days for work are the same ones who are 5-10 minutes late at least once a week.

Zephyrkittycat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:48:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

you've just described my partner, its honestly the only thing I would change about him, it gives me so much anxiety. I'm always between 15-5 minutes early to everything. It works pretty well because people know I'm reliable and the one time I am late they know its for a genuine reason, such as my car broke down.

Epistaxis ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:13:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I just embrace the uncertainty. I don't pretend that I can accurately arrive at 8:59, so I think to myself, would I rather arrive in the window between 8:30 and 9:00 or the one from 9:00 to 9:30?

Keylime29 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:59 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This! I so wish this was taught in school as a basic skill for life. It is a real problem at work!

Keylime29 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:02 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This! I so wish this was taught in school as a basic skill for life. It is a real problem at work!

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:23:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, it's rude to show up for parties early, or to people's houses in general early.

rixaslost ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:52:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

being early is better than late. i was the opposite my family was always 30min + late for everything. church, family gatherings, some were getting in trouble/fired for being late to work. 0 time management going on there it took years to un learn and now im 5min early to everything.

JenniferMcKay ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:38:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I do that. I'm 20-40 minutes early for work every time. I just sit on my phone in the parking lot until it's time to go in. Personally, I think it's better than being late to everything.

NoApollonia ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:46:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's actually a good habit to be a little early for things. It's much better than being late. Though my parents like to be 30-60 mins early for stuff - I fall into the category of wanting to be 10-15 mins early just in case there's extra traffic or something I can't foresee. I just carry a book for passing any extra time.

BeerDrinkinGreg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:21:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

10 to 15 is good. 30-60 is stupid, because you know when you show up 10 minutes early, they're thinking "Finally, I've been waiting for almost an hour!"

NoApollonia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's my mom in a nutshell. She'll show up way early and if the person is on time, she feels they are late and if they are even ten minutes late she'll whine about how late they are and how long she's waited. I mean I like showing up a little early just to make sure there's enough time to get there, find the address if need be, and even scout out the area. Plus I finally gave in and got a Kindle not too long back which is easy to carry with me - though before I'd simply bring a book.

NovaStarLord ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:00:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh boy you would hate Mexican punctuality then.

That said 15 minutes early is a good estimate since you don't wait that long and if something bad happens it provides ample time for you to your scheduled meeting right on time.

ManaMoogle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:52:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

South Africans are so relaxed about time that they say "now" to mean up to 2 hours (or never), "just now" for within 30 minutes, and "NOW now" for maybe like 5 minutes if you're lucky. I got really comfortable with waiting forever at local restaurants during my trip there...

atglobe ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:54:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm the opposite. We were late so often that when I learned to drive, I made a point of always being on time for things.

efrique ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:01:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

7:55 for 8 is good. Being punctual is treating other people with respect.

But way early is silly. My wife's father was always half an hour early for everything. He spent a load of of his life needlessly waiting.

tripleoink ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:45:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can get a lot done during that time if you bring a book or have a smart phone. I live in Texas, and it's great to literally have that time to cool off/stop sweating before walking into an appointment.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:17:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not a bad thing! I aim for ten minutes, then if traffic is bad you are right on time.

TeJaytheMad ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:35:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Early is on time and on time is late.

My dad was military, so that mentality was instilled in me at a young age. Not a bad habit to have in the professional world.

BeefSamples ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:59:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yah. Totally shouldn't unlearn this. Your parents taught you a great thing

TheMellowestyellow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:02:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Im not sure this is a bad thing though.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:09:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Please don't unlearn this.

Bobbsen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:29:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm the same. But I'm actually proud of it and feel it's one of my redeeming qualities to show up 10-15 minutes early. I never came late to anything and I intend to keep it that way.

And why am I like this? Well guess what. My parents are notorious latecomers and it's infuriating every time. When my mom says she comes by or something I'll start putting my pants on half an hour after the specified time.

Well, of course that's for important stuff like work or appointments.

SD__ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:37:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How do you manage that? I can't even manage to turn up late!

Rotom-W ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:59:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't unlearn this. It's a good trait. I wish I could do this.

MacadamNumber ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:07:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

you shouldn't unlearn this. I am the opposite and I wish I was like that.

BeerDrinkinGreg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:19:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't unlearn that! EVER!

My wife is like that, and it drives me nuts, she gets so stressed leaving the house, because she doesn't get ready to leave until the last second. Shows up for work at an 8:00 call at 7:58. You're supposed to be early for things. Not like an hour, but in North America, (In the film business, at least, we're both technicians) you show up 15 minutes early as a matter of course. Allows you to grab a coffee, chitchat about the day, get your gear together, etc.

If it's a social thing, 5 or 10 minutes early is great. Allows you to compensate for things like not finding a parking spot, getting stuck in traffic, etc. If you have dinner reservations, you don't want to see three of your friends waiting for you to show up and getting mad at you because they already gave away your table.

Save everybody some stress, show up a few minutes early. Two minutes early is eight minutes late in my world.

Luneowl ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:39:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So many people arguing for this being a good habit but it's not good when you have an anxiety attack because you're early but not early enough. I think 5 min early-before-anxiety is a great improvement!

illirica ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:59:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think your comment really hits the nail on the head. It's not the "being 15 minutes early" that's the problem, it's the feeling of "My appointment is at 9 and it takes 15 minutes to get there if there's traffic and 20 if I hit a train and it's 8:15 already and I am so late!!!"

FPSGamer48 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:56:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They taught you a good lesson! I hate when people are late!

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:34:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why would you unlearn this? This is a good habit to have.

LittleGoblin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:40:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel you right there. I have a hard time not being early. But everywhere I've worked they bitch at me for being early because they don't want to pay for the labor.

Shit is stressful, yo.

Also it sucks being early somewhere when all your friends are late.

Drinking alone at a shitty burger bar sucks, especially when there is an intrusive Latvian guy at the bar trying to tell you his whole life story through a thick accent. That he's a real estate agent that works around the world for really powerful...

Hesione ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You'll get there when you get there. Say you're driving to a place. Obviously you want to drive safely. If you're running late, what's the point in feeling stressed? Will that help you get there faster? No, it'll just mess up your judgment. Feeling stressed is often a pointless emotion. So don't bother in investing in it. You'll get there when you get there. And you'll get there safely because you didn't let stress take over your brain.

sglville ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is true for work, not really true for the rest of life.

nemodarby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:38:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I do this as well, however I show up to most things between 30 minutes and 15 minutes early. For example I get to work 30 minutes early and just sit in the parking lot, i got there 25 minutes early one time and almost had an anxiety attack.

CerealKillerOats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:52:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There is no such thing as early. Only late or on time.

listix ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:23:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am of the idea that being late from time to time just a bit is acceptable. I never considered a lack of respect or anything like that. Besides, if this is causing you anxiety they it is a problem to be worked on. The world is not going to end for being 5 minutes late.

biaggio ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 05:05:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you should never show emotion or express affection physically. That talking about how you feel is a sign of weakness, and that relating to other people through anything other than language you would use to discuss a business transaction is inappropriate.

Still trying to work this shit out.

yobigboss ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:08:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

This is why I currently see a therapist. I'm 28 and I am barely unlearning this.

biaggio ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:11:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Stick with it. I'm a bit older than you, and it's worth it.

maglen69 ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 04:38:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Steaks aren't supposed to be prepared well done.

When my uncle cooked me my first Medium Rare/Medium my life was changed.

mensch_uber ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:39:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's funny for me. Growing up was the same, then as we started going to restaurants, I'd get rare and med/rare. As long as it's warm I'll eat it. Not even I know when that started. But I can see it in her face each time, a mixture of "you're gonna get sick" combating "must suck cause I never made it that way".

She'll even order medium now, but still have that internal battle of "oh no! I see red!". And she'd refuse to send it back for fear of offending the chef, knowing it was prepared right. I tell her every time to get med/well on good cuts because they are thick and will have red. It's as if she had one once in a dimly lit place in a big group and didn't notice and loved it. And she's been chasing that steak ever since not knowing it's ok to have red in there.

SaysiAlt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:41:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was the opposite. Dad likes his steak mediumish, I can't stand even any pink in mine. When I was old enough to cook for myself I discovered that steak is amazing as long as it's cooked to your personal tastes.

SamiAbK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:36:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother hates seeing any red in her steak, I was raised eating over cooked meat most my life

powerplayer6 ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 11:29:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well done is the best, gtfo. I don't want my meat to taste like raw shit.

LordLucian ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 12:16:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bit Late to this but I was taught that adults always sit down at the end of everyday with an alcoholic beverage. I'm 27 now and will be seven months sober on Monday.

muthafuckenkatlaydee ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:04:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Congrats on the sobriety

Sonja_Blu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:24:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad did this but not my mum. Turns out he hated his job and the fact my mum traveled a lot for hers made him kind of miserable. He barely ever drinks now, I don't even remember the last time I saw him have one. Maybe last summer? His life is objectively a million times worse now, so he must have really hated his job.

nig3ltufn3l ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:13:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mormonism. Effing cult!!!

fierytruck2001 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 10:39:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That getting into university is the be-all and end-all of education, otherwise you would end up as a construction worker, despite the fact that the entry level construction worker is earning probably double , sometimes triple the amount of an ordinary college graduate working in the service sector, to speak nothing of hundred of thousands of unpaid student loans. That when they ask you to jump, you only say 'how high?'

Woorloc ยท 37 points ยท Posted at 02:57:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That shoplifting was fun and cool. My mom use to shoplift school clothes and supplies for my sister and me at the start of the school year. She would then brag about it to us and her friends. I shoplifted regularly from the age of nine to eighteen. Was arrested a couple times for shoplifting and then for burglary at 18. Locked up for a year with one year of parole after that. Haven't stolen anything since then. I know I am the one responsible for my felony record, but thanks mom. On the other hand, I learned from watching her, that being a tweeker is just stupid..

Teaboo_mom ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 04:42:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shoplift if you must but for the love of God don't get caught.

[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 01:06:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

To make sacrifices for other people.

Make big sacrifices for a tiny amount of people that you think will reciprocate when you are in need.

If you want, make small sacrifices for others. Just don't go nuts with it, unless it is also benefiting yourself (like, if volunteering at the soup kitchen makes you feel good, go for it).

If you are doing every good deed for strangers or acquaintances that pops up to be a 'good person,' you will ruin yourself and be useless to help the people you care about.

Probably didn't phrase that convincingly...

TurtleFantasy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:48:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom didn't even teach me this and Im trying to stop

freshvow ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 03:19:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Success" means getting rich

TwistedReaper00 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:33:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well getting rich in what makes you happy is success.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:39:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In the western world. Yes, it does.

pinkpenny00 ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 02:17:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom indirectly told me many times that the only way I'd get a boyfriend was if I were skinny and pretty. I'm having a hard time believing otherwise.

Help_I_think_Im_Emo ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:44:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know if this will mean anything to you, but she was probably struggling with body image herself. She may have even envied you, but I don't know your circumstances. It's just my guess. Don't worry, if you look far enough, you'll find someone that loves you.

pinkpenny00 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:54:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I doubt she envied me but she did have body issues. Which in turn made me have body issues.

Thanks. I really hope so.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:02:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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pinkpenny00 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:31:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh I'm sorry to here that.

It sucks because I know it is not true but I can't make myself believe otherwise. I'm working on it though.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:45:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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pinkpenny00 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:33:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks.

theronin23 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:39:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm a guy who's been fat my whole life and my mom was the same way. One time I had a date with this girl, and not to brag, but she was gorgeous, she was a model, she just happened to like fat guys. We had met online and set everything up online and by phone, and when I told my mom, and showed her a picture of her, she said, "Wow, she's beautiful! And she's seen you already, right?"

Just little things like that my whole life.

pinkpenny00 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:15:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow that really fucking sucks. Your parents sound like the type of parents who will never be happy for their child. Ugh.

SailedBasilisk ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:29:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If it helps, the first girl I ever fell in love with was, for lack of a better word, chubby.

pinkpenny00 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:32:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It does but I'm more than chubby. Lol

whakikhaki ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:36:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom told me directly and also added that if you want boys to like you, you have to pretend to like what they like. Um, no.

EditingTips ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 11:38:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Beggars can't be choosers.

hitops1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:17:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Basically all major media of any kind also agrees on this message. Not surprising a lot of people would believe it.

Libramom72 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:13:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My Mom and Grandma said If I was fat I'd never have a boyfriend or husband. Liars!

pinkpenny00 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good on you for proving them wrong!

rabbit395 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:14:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well...she's not wrong. Attractive people are more likely to have a boyfriend/girlfriend.

addol95 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and curves are awesome. That's all.

pinkpenny00 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So true! Thanks! And I agree curves are awesome.

domino_jordan ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 02:23:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hoarding. Eating all I was given.

You know the kind of bullshit that was only relevant to their parents.

JBTBE ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:48:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom taught me to use very high heat when making scrambled eggs. She taught herself when she was five. (Basically she was raised by wolves.)

GravityBringer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:50:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I could barley microwave fucking popcorn when I was five...

Septapus007 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:56:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Never feel sorry for anybody - My mom used to actually chant this over and over as a reminder to not show kindness to others at your own expense.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:10:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus

Toxicitor ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:41:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Died for your sins, making you the real winner!

throwaway-person ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:01:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I need to chant this to myself

Wandering_Tale ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:30:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I was an unlovable failure.

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ theonecalledzach ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:31:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ily bby

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:21:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Whether it's at work, school, or just around my friends, I've always had a lot of people comment about how quiet I am. I got that from being around my family.

I don't mean to say that my family is quiet. Quite the opposite, in fact. I come from a family of talkers. My parents are both the kind of people who can carry on a 20 minute conversation with you, in which you'll be lucky to get three words in edgewise.

But far worse than that is how they'll constantly interrupt me when I'm speaking. Just today, I was trying to tell my mom and my sister something our cat did. It was a 2-3 minute story, tops, but they both interrupted me at different times. And I don't mean they were offering comments or questions that were relevant to my story -- both of their interruptions were completely unrelated to what I was saying. It's like they just speak whatever pops into their heads, regardless of whether I'm finished talking.

If I try to call them out on it, they act like they have no idea what I'm talking about.

So that's how I got into the habit of just not talking.

throway65486 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:17:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

videotape them. they probaply really don't realize

DeadWiegraf ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:18:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That bacon is not made of owl meat.

MacadamNumber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

wtf ._.

DeadWiegraf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:06:16 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ha. Yeah. To be fair it was my grandfather that told me as a joke, but my parents never corrected it when he did it. I for years wouldn't eat bacon, but I was fine with sausage and chicken.

Nunar ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:33:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion... and sexual shame.

godisgrate ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:03:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, me too. They usually come as a matched set, with an optional side order of racism.

warbirdj ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:01:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Popping zits. My mom taught me to pop them in high school. Though she meant well, my face was a wreck since then. It became a nervous habit and people in college could tell when I was freaked out over something, whether it was a test or a girl. It's now three years since college and I relapse now and again, but my face is currently clear. Should I have kids, I will tell them to clean their face with a warm rag and save them all of the unnecessary anxiety.

BraveLittlePene ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 07:09:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Rubbing me down with an egg... As a kid if I felt sick or something just out of the ordinary. I was rubbed down with an egg and was told "Mijo, tienes ojo"

uptownbrent ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 10:36:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That god is real and their religion is the one true religion

emilysbs ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:59:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandmother gave herself to everyone all the time. Always did stuff for everyone. She taught me through her own actions to just sacrifice your own life for everyone else. Now I'm trying to undo all of that and put my family first. Too often I let someone else benefit in various situations and I just take the negative. From little stuff like just letting someone else take a parking spot to not letting my mother use my car indefinitely because hers broke down, but then me and my husband have to share a car and it burdens our life. I just have to learn to say no more often and also learn to keep my mouth shut and not offer our time or stuff to others. I have spent many years being too charitable with everyone. Now I want to stop putting everyone first and make sure we are putting ourselves first. "Put the air mask on yourself first, then help those around you" as the airline safety brochure tells me

tommy11133 ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 22:52:28 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Like, literally everything. Except good manners I guess

77remix ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 01:41:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Waiting after I eat before I jump in the pool

Fuck that I'm going straight in immediately after

reallymobilelongname ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:08:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah that's not just a cramp related thing.

That's also your parents not wanting to have to clean up the puke out of the pool because you crammed your face with food and jumped in the pool.

fightms ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:28:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

CRAMP, CRAMP!

[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 04:57:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I come from a very Catholic background. I had to unlearn feelings of shame every time I jerked off

Radical--jellyfish ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 05:07:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm worthless, a burden, stupid, slutty, annoying, crazy and a fatass. I can't wait to leave, it took me years to realize I wasn't any of those things and that I wasn't the crazy one. It was drilled it into my head by my stepdad and step siblings. As soon as I leave I'm never looking back, but luckily I've got my anxiety, depression and crippling insecurities that they caused me to keep me company. ๐Ÿ‘

[deleted] ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 22:51:16 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To quote Suzanne Vega, "The laws are so fine; If I'm good then I will be protected." Fortunately at this time in their lives they appear to have been relieved of this delusion along with me.

WillieR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's a wonderful lyric. What Suzanne Vega song is that from?

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:20:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bad Wisdom. :-)

Andraaivi ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 03:04:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't tell anyone anything about you otherwise they'll find a way to use it against you.

whomem ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:30:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

this. Still trying to unlearn.

ghryzzleebear ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:35:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nope, it's safer to be emotionally distant

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:05:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel you

Lunatic335 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:33:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This but in moderation. And knowing what to say. Simply using common sense.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:05:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In a similar vein, it's fine to lie to people for no reason because they don't need to know everything about you. Meanwhile, don't trust anyone because everyone's a goddamn liar (other people lying is bad, but Mom lying is A-OK).

rubbernub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Every proclamation guarantees free ammunition for your enemies.

Gamiac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Grade school didn't teach you this?

DRNate_ ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 05:33:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That women are always right and decent people. I won't say anything else for fear of the wrath I've already wrought on myself with this comment

Eldis_ ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 10:29:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am a woman. I am most certainly not always right. And I know quite a few women who are far from decent.

lumpymattress ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:39:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

far from decent

So like the girl in high school that cheated on her boyfriend of 2 years with a 24 year old

She was also the drum major and president of the class, might I add.

TeaBerries ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:32:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That shame keeps you a lady. My mom basically taught me that by how she raised me. Took me my whole life to act right around people.

LordHotPie ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:33:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That they were always right and had my best interest

bunnypaca ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:27:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family (the whole community around our city too apparently) is an anti-semitic conservative Muslim bunch. Every single thing that they don't like is a "Jewish agenda to bring down the Muslims." They were obsessed with conspiravy theories and would go out of their way to blame the "infidels" for everything that goes wrong in their lives. Well, I believed in that shit too until I discovered the internet at age 13 and started to get exposed to the outside world. However, when I would question their logic it seems that I've been "brainwashed by the Jews to turn against my own religion." :( I'm still holding onto my faith, but I'm more open minded than the rest of my family now.

innle85 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:55:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was taught not to be proud of anything I created or achieved. I could show them a stick figure drawing and I got an uninterested 'very nice honey'. I could show them the next Mona Lisa and I got an uninterested 'very nice honey'.

plaid_banana ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:12:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That my body is not my own.

It's a longstanding thing. Small things they dislike means you'll get a smack on the ass or a backhand across the face. Larger things, shoved up against the wall or down onto the couch, their hand across your mouth and maybe nose too.

I wish I were kidding, but when I was 15, I didn't want to come downstairs for dinner one night. Their response was to pick me up, carry me downstairs (and I was not a small kid -- already 6' and 170 lbs), shove me into the car, and take me to the ER for a psych eval. Because they thought I needed to be placed on a 72 hour hold. Because I didn't want to eat dinner with the family that night.

I wish I were kidding, but when my dad found out that I got a tattoo as a gift from a college mentor (not under his roof, I was 22 when I got the tattoo and 24 when he found out) he grabbed his pocketknife with one hand and pulled me by the shirtsleeve toward him with the other. He always "joked" that if I ever had a tattoo he'd cut it out of me, or if I had a piercing he'd rip it out of me.

Plus a bunch of religious shit, which maybe they didn't actively teach me, but they sure as fuck could've stopped when I begged them to let me go to public school or a different parish. I'm not anti-religion, I'm religious myself, but I still struggle with the shit I was told about being "contrary to natural law" and "intrinsically disordered", and how it was my responsibility to make sure that my body didn't lead others to sinful thoughts or actions.

To which I say: fuck that noise. It's not their fault that I was in a super abusive relationship in my early 20s, but had they not laid that kind of groundwork, maybe I wouldn't've so easily believed that domestic violence is something I deserved on a daily basis. It's not their fault I was sexually assaulted, but had they taught me (and my sibling, the perpetrator) better about boundaries, maybe it wouldn't've happened or maybe it wouldn't've happened a second time, or maybe I just wouldn't've accepted it for so long.

Sure, they fed me and educated me and gave me hugs when I was small. They've paid for my healthcare when I couldn't afford it, which has no doubt saved my life. But that's not parents-of-the-year material. I'm grateful for that, but I'd be a lot more grateful if I were capable of believing, even though I'm almost 30 now, that my body is my own.

trpotter72 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:12:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you must finish your plate. It's a bad habit that leads to overeating later in life.

sirJackHandy ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 23:55:13 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dad always thought laughter was the best medicine for us... which I guess is why several of us died of Tuberculosis.

lolcia_cookies ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:17:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The word 'several' sounds concerning

Plinkertone ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:50:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
  • jack handey
GrandOpening ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:17:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"I am free, white, and over 21."
I didn't realize how racist that was for the longest time.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:03:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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GrandOpening ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:17:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It was a phrase my Mom said. It wasn't until I went out of my hometown until I realized how bad it was.

snowl1on ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:17:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't get it. doesn't that cover most white people? Is this like a frase or qoute? I'm not american so maybe that's why? genuinely thankfull for answers.

redditentity ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:51:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't get it either. I am free, white, and 21 so it applies.

Maybe it was used in the context meaning "I am free white and over 21, I can do anything I want without consequences"

GrandOpening ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:58:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It is a phrase that my Mom used to use when someone told her 'no'. The level of racism and condescension was lost on me as a child. I have no clue where she picked it up from, but it still strikes me when I think upon those times.

CerealKillerOats ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:49:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Phrase* quote* thankful* (full at the end of other words becomes "ful") but you aren't american so it's okay.

snowl1on ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:23:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Would it still be ok if I was british?

CerealKillerOats ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:30:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lol nope.

snowl1on ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

well, point proven.....Whatever it was supposed to be.

CerealKillerOats ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why did you downvote me? You being an english speaker should know how to spell things. Maybe you in the UK spell it "thankfull" but i know fir a fact you dont spell it "frase"

snowl1on ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't downvote anyone. I did mistype "thankful". English is my second language, I never claimed otherwise.

CerealKillerOats ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:11:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dude if english is your second language then this is all settled. I assumed that you not knowing how to spell those was bad because you are from the uk, but i guess not. Have a good day.

snowl1on ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

and to you as well good sir.

CerealKillerOats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank

LaMadreDelCantante ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fir a fact.....

johnchapel ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:01:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That even if I don't wear underwear, I won't automatically shit my pants.

No joke my mom taught me that and I'm probably the only one

RealHazubando ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:12:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Blind obedience to the elite. I was ridiculed anytime I even came close to thinking critically. It made me a gullible and stunted person for a long time, even though I was booksmart. Brainwashing is a hell of a thing. It took years to undo it.

Even now I still have revelations about logical fallacies, and other people treat me like I'm dumb for not seeing such an obvious thing. It's embarrassing every time. Fuck you, parent, you hateful, bigoted, abusive, narcissist, drug-addled fucking cunt.

GingerSnap95 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:15:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So when we were kids and super picky eaters, my dad always made us sit at the table until we either finished our food or went to bed. Same with going out to eat, you eat everything on your plate. If not, we were thought of as wasting food therefore wasting money.

Now, as an adult, I've had to learn that it's okay NOT to eat everything. That I can stop when I do feel full. I still have a hard time going out to eat and doing this, feeling that I waste money when there's still half a plate of fries left. But someone once told me that "you're paying to get full, so it's not a waste if you are before the meal is done" and that's actually really helped me not feel bad about it.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:28:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Something I was told, that helped me: "your body is not a trashcan". There are other, quite valid, ways to dispose of food, you don't have to dispose of it by eating it.

flypstyx ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:29:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Blatant racism. Still working on it, to be honest. I never knew just how bad my parents got to me until fairly recently, and it's rather shocking.

austinanderson97 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:20:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism. No joke..

pumpkinpillow621 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:24:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That a Phillips screwdriver was not called a "four head"...didn't realize until college.

Steakarino ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:56:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My father taught me men don't cry or talk about their feelings. It took bottling everything up for 4 years straight and then breaking and trying to kill myself that I figured out that that's probably not the healthiest thing.

knot2kool ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 11:12:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're dad was right!

Somnambulist333 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:49:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I was allergic to penicillin.

In every medical situation I can remember since being a child, when asked if I had any allergies,I would respond penicillin. When I joined the Navy it was the same, and I received a special red dog tag explaining the sensitivity as well as exemption from the dreaded PB shot in lieu of a huge bottle of amoxycillin. Within the last 5 years (I'm 32), I was talking to my mom about something and casually mentioned the allergy, and she responds: "Penicillin? You're not allergic to penicillin..."

Now I don't know what to think.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 13:09:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't talk to everyone you meet. From what I've been told I was very interactive with everyone, when I would go to the doctors I'd be stumbling around bringing toys and magazines to people, I'd be sitting in the grocery cart talking to the cashier and just generally being an outgoing toddler/child and my parents generally said don't do that, not all people like that and so when school rolled around I didn't really have friends until like Grade 5. I guess being told that not everyone wants the best for you kind of stunted my social growth in those years but eventually I just accepted the attitude of just being brave for a minute and letting the rest sort itself out. You can never really go wrong by initiating a conversation by saying "Hi, I'm Colby (insert observation or quip here)" and smiling. If someone for whatever reason is offended by that just don't bother with them.

This helped so much with girls during Highschool. Where most guys have a "OMG what if she doesn't like me back??" Phase I was just able to bypass that because I had become a outgoing individual and I was never really scared of rejection. Of course there's always the one stuck up snob who acts like you asked her to kill her family but like I said, in that case just kill them with kindness and don't deal with them. By acting rude in return you only make yourself look worse.

jentuitive ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:50:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad taught me that emotions didn't exist. "Show them to me," he'd say. I spent my whole life shutting off my emotions (aside from happiness) because they "didn't actually exist." It took me until I was 28 to sit down and scientifically explain the existence of these abstract things called emotions to my father. His response when I reminded him about telling me emotions didn't exist? "Welp. It sounded good at the time."

My mom taught me that Mars was red because it's hot.

To this day, she is convinced that chicken has no calories. (I tried to explain that it has no carbohydrates. But she says I'm wrong. No calories.)

And she called going pee "pishy dishy." She said it to the dogs and to my brother and me. I was in middle school when I realized it wasn't called "pishy dishy" and my vagina wasn't called a "peepee."

My mom also taught me that men are the stronger sex and it was my job, as a woman, to always be shaved and made-up and put-together when in front of my mate... To please him sexually even if I didn't want sex and to agree with him at all costs.

I would continue with the list but I'm being reminded of all the therapy I've paid for to arrive at these realizations. So. I'm going to go feel emotions while not wearing makeup in front of my boyfriend.

Jennrrrs ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 04:44:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's okay to fuck up parenting because there are "no books about parenting".

There's hundreds of books about parenting, mom. HUNDREDS!!!

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:06:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

289,586 on Amazon alone.

sirJackHandy ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 00:24:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I remember how my great-uncle Jerry would sit on the porch and whittle all day long. Once he whittled me a toy boat out of a larger toy boat I had. It was almost as good as the first one, except now it had bumpy whittle marks all over it. And no paint, because he had whittled off the paint. No paint.

leaflard ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 02:55:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And what is there that you have to unlearn? (You may have posted on the wrong thread)

TomatoSlayer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:10:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You didn't read his name, or you don't understand who Jack Handey is.

DongLaiCha ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:17:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They say he made it himself... from a bigger spoon.

wtfomgbbq69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

-Steven Wright

KurdisTame ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:42:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that making pizza rolls in the microwave was the way to go

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ theonecalledzach ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:45:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That borders on child abuse tbh

airbiscuits_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:18:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit. TIL I was severely abused.

micromorte ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:35:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm thiiiiiis close to getting in my car and going to the grocery store to buy a bag of pizza rolls.

omg

Geodude671 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:30:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

but it is

[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:50:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Never throwing anything away, and never replacing anything.

Built-In ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:34:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A big divide between me and my parents generation is that I don't wash and reuse ziploc bags.

To be fair, I do try to reuse non-meat bags. For example, I've used the same gallon-sized ziploc several times to take my toiletries on plane trips. Or I'll use a bag that had food in it to scoop cat litter.

They would literally use a sponge to wash out a bag, let it dry on the dish rack, and reuse it for food.

We were poor but not that poor.

i_was_watching_cops ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents aren't poor at all and my mom does this. I think she's actually stingy with things like this to make up for other things that she wastes money on, like gifts no one wanted or decorative things for the house. My mom reuses zip loc bags that didn't have anything gross in them. She'll also hang paper towels to dry and reuse them. She hates it when other people use the paper towels because we'll use a whole paper towel or two and throw it out when we're done.

In my opinion, reusing things that are meant to be disposable and convenient kinda defeats the purpose of buying them in the first place.

thehotpoint ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 04:42:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That suicide is not the only option when times get tough. Mom still thinks she is right though. Going on the 6th attempt now in my lifetime. Thank God she's incompetent.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I truly hope that comment is satire...

MetaKoopa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:21:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Please dear God tell me you're joking

trksccrplr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:57:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do you mean that suicide IS the only option when times get tough? In other words, you're trying to learn that there are other options and ending your life is not the best way? I hope this is the case, and I am grasping that your mom is sick. I am very sorry that your mom is needing some mental health help. I hope she gets the help she needs to overcome this thought.

thehotpoint ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:13:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to teach myself that everyone's life gets hard sometimes and you just have to keep going. Do you best to move on. I used to think she was an unlucky victim and life was just so bad for her that she felt she had no choice. That was what she taught me.

cagando ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 22:47:44 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to eat

bigbog987 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:51:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The pussy

Universefrog ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:53:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Like Groceries

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:21:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

goddammit...

enelprinceofthemoon ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 23:08:34 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wanking is bad for you

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:40:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's actually good for you. Dem endorphins and shit. Improves mood obviously and I've heard it even improves your immune system.

Krym0r ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 23:30:33 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Islam

It409 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:32:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Where are you from?

Krym0r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:40:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Does that matter?

It409 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:54:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, I'm also an ex Muslim and I just wanted to see which country you're from

Krym0r ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:57:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

PMed you :)

[deleted] ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 04:11:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why would you unlearn it?

Krym0r ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:40:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Because it is a religion of hate and suffering. It's not supposed to be, but it is.

Watsonsboots88 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 08:52:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

It's going to be buried butt fuck it.... I had to realize, after being married for 3 years and having 2 kids, that families are not generally temporary. My mom split when I was 2, never to be heard from again and my Dad died when I was 14. So I spent my formative years shuffled around between family members. I lived every moment like there were no consequences, from 14 until 24, because for me there were no consequences. I knocked up a girl, married her, knocked her up again, lived like their were no consequences, and she left me, and took my babies. A took a couple months and prioritized what was important in life. I realized I lucked the fuck out and knocked up an amazing woman, had 2 beautiful healthy kids with her. And I realized that, because I got dealt a shitty hand, doesn't mean my baby boy, baby girl, and wife have to have a shitty father/husband. I had to re-learn what my Dad taught me in those 14 good years, family is all that matters in this world, be a good father to your children, and be a good husband to your wife. Because it's all they have, and Goddamnit, it's all I have.

Edit: realized I should have ended this story with how life is now. Married 8/22/09, she (justifiably) left me in late '13. We got back together and did counseling in early '14, and have had a very happy life and it doesn't seem to be slowing down anytime soon!

Levis_Dad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:23:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So... Did it end well? Are you back together?

Watsonsboots88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:50:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh yea haha I should edit it, yea married for 7 years Monday 8/22. Happily married for 3 years! And going strong!!!

Levis_Dad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:22:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good on you guys! Your story resonated with me for some reason and I'm glad you worked it out.

trksccrplr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:44:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Happy anniversary tomorrow! I got married the same day as you, my situation ended up worse as my divorce was finalized almost a year ago. I wish we could've worked it out like you were able to! Congrats on 7 years!

Watsonsboots88 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:57:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thanks. Sorry about your marriage! Marriage counseling helped us a lot, not because the counselor have is some magic tips and tricks, but because we could talk out our issues to an unbiased mediator. I think a lot of marital problems happen because when you vent about your relationship, you might not realize it but, you're only talking about the bad stuff to your friends and family. So that's all they hear, is the bad stuff. And of course your respective friends and family are going to be on your side and unintentionally fuel the fire. That's really what saved us, talking about our problems to someone unbiased, a stranger. Also, the fact we both wanted to work it out, at first for the kids, then after awhile we just started to want to make each other happy again, not for the kids, but for us. Anyway, I hope you're happy, I hope find/found someone who makes you happy, who you want to make happy.

JonghyunRAWRS ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:07:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism and how to be humble and treat everyone with respect

geeter68 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:05:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Tip a prostitute

FullRageQuit ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:47:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When could that ever come up with your parents "Now son/daughter prostitutes are people too and you should tip them"

travelingdance ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:09:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I always give my prostitutes the tip, at least.

Ready2Comply ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:23:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

targetwhore ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:37:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bad eating habits

javidbest ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:12:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Basically everything. Stating personal opinion as fact was probably the most important one to unlearn.

LeGama ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:06:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Always buy a size bigger. All my clothes growing up were usually a little bigger than needed, because I was growing, so they last longer before I outgrew them. It didn't take me long in HS to stop buying big pants/shirts, but it wasn't until late college that I tried a size smaller in shoes and realized how much more comfortable it was. Because I basically stopped at a size and just kept getting that size, without even trying smaller ones.

RyGuyz ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:50:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was pretty fortunate just the occasional odd ball one.

But my husband has a few. Most importantly, he's had to learn that it's ok to celebrate minor achievements, it's ok to hug your friends and complement them if something is good, and that it's also ok to show affection towards family and friends. The words I love you are not dirty words.

freakstyle571 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:50:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bad Grammar.

It took me a long time to learn that, "I seen that" is incorrect; along with a a dozen other colloquialisms they continue to use. Drives me nuts when I go home and hear it now.

Mattene ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:58:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I should never question religious authority. Hell, i'm 22 and my mom still tells me daily I shouldn't.

i.e. My aunt thinks schizophrenia is possession of satan, not a mental illness.

I was brainwashed as a kid

TheHolyCabbage ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:04:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That gay people are a disgrace to humanity. Took me 15 years to understand that it's no biggie

sestre ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:23:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that hitting/burning/hurting your children is a reasonable way to relieve stress

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:53:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

burning? What the fuck!

I really feel sorry for you

WilmaRJ ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:41:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a new parent, this thread is giving me serious anxiety. My biggest fear is that my kid would learn the worst parts of me, and become that. All I want in this world is the best for her.

relic1040 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:46:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As bad as it all sounds, we can only be the best we can be. I fully expect my kids to be better than me, and you should too. Best of luck.

ReelAwesome ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:41:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

...that you must eat everything on your plate. I struggled with my weight for a good portion of my adult life until I was able to break myself of "must eat everything given to me at a meal." Its even worse with restaurant portions such that they are these days.

keithrc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:38:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is the one I came looking for, suprised that it's not higher!

bicyclemom ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:02:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Boys do boy chores limited to taking out the garbage and the occasional lawn mowing and girls do all the indoor cooking and cleaning kitchens, bathrooms, bedrooms.

Fuck that.

I'd you live in my house, you can do any of those jobs.

TheMadTemplar ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:29:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents taught me:

Mexicans are dirty. Homosexuality is both a disease and a sin.

If you get hurt or something bad happens it's because you did something wrong.

Anyone not Catholic isn't worth knowing.

Priests are the ultimate authority on God, unless they are wrong.

Saints are more important than biblical teaching.

Even if you are Catholic you probably aren't the right kind of Catholic.

I'm worth nothing unless I am in their good graces, which means I'm in God's good graces.

I exist to serve and obey them, to ease their own lives.

Women are a bad influence and most likely out to corrupt me.

I could go on. When I went to community college at 16 I started learning that a lot of what my parents said was wrong, or came from a misunderstanding of how the world really works. By 18 I was kicked out of the house after a series of fight or arguments regarding their parenting, religion, and politics. I spent the next year sulking, trying to find purpose. I've since spent the last 6 years learning how to respect people based on who they are, not their gender, sexual orientation or religion.

Despite my severe depression and anxiety right now, I look back on the type of person I was headed to be in 2008 and who I am now, and I'm proud. I'm proud I've stood as an ally for the lgbt community, have counter marched against the prolife rallies, have volunteered for homeless shelters and planned parenthood.

FezPaladin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:46:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Always respect religion for what it is... a pack of lies with political interests behind them.

burndtdan ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:56:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was raised Southern Baptist so... most of it.

jingw222 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:34:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Put off things one isn't willing to do until deadlines

SFBayAreaPriusDriver ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:48:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eh...As far as I'm concerned, meeting the deadline is all that matters.

I'm thinkin' your parents were actually on to something with this one.

[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:16:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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wd3war ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:56:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was much younger I got a job at a Jiffy Lube because I wanted to learn how to work on cars but no actual mechanics would hire me because of my age and lack of tools and experience. I showed up early to work after being there for a week and the shop manager decided he was going to change this nice looking woman's oil early and for free. She was driving a Volkswagen. He was struggling with the oil filter. I asked if he needed some help. He answered, in a very condescending tone while smiling at the woman, "no, I've got it. Why don't you go ahead and start the coffee and then clean up the office." I walked over to him and saw he was twisting the filter to the right with all of his strength. I again asked if he needed some help. Again he told me he had it and could "feel it starting to loosen up". I whispered "righty tighty lefty loosey". He stopped and said, "yeah, but this is a European car" so I gave up. He went and got an oil filter wrench after I went to start the coffee. It was about 30 minutes later that the tow truck came to take her car to an actual mechanic to have her oil filter housing replaced. The shop manager went back to stocking groceries the next day and I left a couple of days later because, well because Jiffy Lube sucks ass.

Nyxtraza ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:47:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Even when I say it correctly, I have a hard time with this for some reason.

TheOurHouseStreet ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:16:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's okay to want something. My mom always scolded me for saying that I wanted something, like a toy. She was very anti materialistic and she couldn't stand when I said that I wanted something. That taught me to hesitate every time I say that I want something.

Her "make due with/appreciate what you've got" attitude indeed taught me to be less materialistic, but I also learned to just kind of accept whatever happened to me, because was afraid of being a "brat".

I'm finally learning to stand up for myself and to have a backbone but it's a work in progress.

Beeker_McSqueaker ยท 157 points ยท Posted at 22:57:37 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fucking asinine religious bullshit. Took over a decade to thoroughly scrub that fucking crap outta my head. Good fucking riddance.

drunkymcdrunkenstein ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 23:05:05 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same. College was a religious experience, in the opposite way.

Im_Negan ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 23:18:09 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Growing up Catholic, I didn't have to go to church every sunday. Now that I'm older, it seems almost cult like and creepy to do so. I don't even go on Christmas anymore.

ArsonKing20 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 00:42:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am also Catholic and some of the practices seem very culty, but the Catholic church does not practice the negative sides of being a cult. They preach peace toward ones enemies, forgiveness of sins and aim to make the world better without the use of violence or intimidation.

Digdut ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 01:43:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Problem is, often people don't follow what they preach.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:11:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Indeed but we shouldn't blame the religion for the people in it.

ArsonKing20 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 02:41:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

With the Catholic church I haven't seen this. In the modern era the Catholic church has been a vehicle of good.

GalacTech ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:30:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not really, the vatican is shifty as hell, and the pope doesnt advocate for free love man.

ArsonKing20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, he does. He's already spoken about accepting gay people in the church, the refugee crisis, and even allowing priests to marry. What about that isn't free love?

I get that the financial part of the Vatican is shady. But that's a work in progress and is still not as corrupt as many governments. Try to rely on Voluntary action instead of taxes to run a country, it's hard.

Frommerman ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:23:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You know, except for all the systematic hiding of child molesters. That's pretty culty.

ArsonKing20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They've addressed that issue publicly and have reformed because of it. There's nothing systematic or hidden about that.

hclinton4prez ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:59:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The Catholic Church systemically has protected people wo had knowledge of pedophilia and the abuse of children and refused to acknowledge that fact. Like this guy.

Frommerman ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:35:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Catholic opposition to all forms of birth control is a public health nightmare in nearly all of South America. The Catholic Church still denies women leadership positions. The Vatican Bank is heavily implicated in several international crime rings, but it's impossible to investigate because the Vatican is a sovereign nation.

There's plenty of shadiness to go around in that organization.

kyracantfindmehaha ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:18:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do you have sources for this info? Sorry, I don't mean to come across as rude or anything... I've never heard about that and it's something that sounds really interesting to read about.

Frommerman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:52:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
IWillNotBeHarmed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nice try Mr.Hitman!

ArsonKing20 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:34:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I would love to see the source on that last one, I've never heard that one.

The women in leadership is because most of the leadership positions require you to be a priest which women cannot be. They are not a bad organization for not adhering to every one of your values, they have their own.

The opposition to birth control is a moral issue that makes sense. They oppose pre-marital sex regardless and are not keen on enabling it. It's not putting anyone in an impossible situation, the answer to that problem is abstinence.

Frommerman ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:49:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Source on the last thing.

The no female priests thing is already biting the church in the ass, what with it becoming harder to encourage specifically unmarried men to join a covenant where they will never have sex again the rest of their lives. Not very appealing. Unless you're gay. Which is also specifically disallowed.

As for the sex thing? Yeah. 'Abstinence' from sex is the dumbest idea put forth by our supposed moral protectors in a long, long while. It doesn't work. At all. Literally everywhere which has tried to use the idea has found it to be terrible at accomplishing anything but causing more sex before marriage.

ArsonKing20 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:59:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
  1. Huh, never seen that. It was an interesting read.

  2. It's supposed to be hard. Priests have to be community leaders so becoming one shouldn't be a cakewalk. The women and gays thing is being examined lately but is in place due to tradition and morality issues.

Abstinence isn't dumb, it's just hard. Where there is weakness, it fails.

And the argument isn't about the Catholic church being some pristine and perfect place where everyone is great and no mistakes are made. Of course there are problems, it's only run by people. People are flawed, greedy, incompetent, etc. My point is that no organization on earth has ever done more good.

Diversionthrow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:00:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Abstinence is referred to as a specific calling in theology. Referring to not being abstinent as weak ignores this and supposes it applies to anyone and everyone. This is not the case, and strength of will has little to do with it.

It stands to reason there are so many failures in abstinence within the church because people choose a lifestyle based on the advantages it can provide rather than because they are called to it. This is talked about in scripture as well.

Edit: Your last point is on shaky ground. There is perhaps truth to this due to the age of the Church, but the opposite argument can easily be applied too- that no organization on earth has caused more harm.

Bearnadette ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:11:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Technically, celibacy is referred to as a specific calling. All of us are called to abstinence if we're not married (according to Catholicism).

ArsonKing20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Abstinence is only temporary. If you can't wait until you find the one right for you how can you be a strong enough parent to raise good children.

The American government, the British government, the Axis powers, Islamic State, The Communist party, etc. Many more have done incredibly worse. The last thing on par with the mass killings many governments partake in was the crusades and that was so long ago you could hardly call it the same church.

Frommerman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:13:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You just called the vast majority of humans weak. Even if that poll is a bad one, it isn't bad by 45 points.

And eventually, the church is going to run out of people willing to be priests.

GalacTech ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:32:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's supposed to be hard. Priests have to be community leaders so becoming one shouldn't be a cakewalk. The women and gays thing is being examined lately but is in place due to tradition and morality issues

Tradition and morality that the corruption of the Vatican has set forth in the modern age...

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:38:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Weakness = natural human sexual desires? Sounds like a very unhealthy view of sex to me.

reallymobilelongname ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:19:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So if you are married and don't want to have kids for any reason - suck shit?

Bit of a shame with zika floating around.

Cryan_Branston ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:08:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And there's no real big assholes in the Catholic Church, only tiny ones.

Yankeeknickfan ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:32:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I never had a bad expirencd with it as a Catholic. We usually only went to church once a yr(usually a random day when we had time). My parents logic was that you don't always have to be in church if you aren't doing the wrong thing.

xdig2000 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:27:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So what did they do wrong causing them to goto church?

Yankeeknickfan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:44:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You don't constantly have to be in church was how they looked at it, but you still have to go sometimes.

kjonVALIS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:57:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here. Southern Baptist parents whose very identities are defined by 'scripture'. And roughly the same amount of time for me to scrub that filth out. I'll sometimes have to go to a church function (mostly funerals) and find it more uncomfortable than giving presentations to a room of 200 people. If I ever find myself driving by a church on Sunday with all the congregation flooding in/out, my first unconscious thought is, "Thank God I don't have to go to church today!" I don't really care if people want to have a personal notion of constructing meaning in their lives, but I definitely do gather hope in knowing that religious fervor is dying (at least in the US).
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/05/12/christianity-faces-sharp-decline-as-americans-are-becoming-even-less-affiliated-with-religion/

openeda ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:20:41 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ignorance, by choice or learned, prevents intellectual and emotional progress. Good on ya! Working through it myself now.

Henry-Filler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:20:30 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Calcium Chloride and a pressure washer should help.

SumasFlats ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:37:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can't believe this is so far down the list -- #1 with a bullet for me -- guess there isn't enough scrubbing going on in some places.

nolog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:30:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It seems like anything containing religion is downvoted by a few people. I'm currently browsing this thread sorted by "controversial" and almost all posts contain "God", "christianity" or "religion", with a slightly negative score.

Econdg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:15:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

my father says 'i pray you come back to church'.

phalacy84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:34:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's such a good feeling to know I'm not the only one.

celticeejit ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:00:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Catholicism.

Stick that guilt up yer asses

Bobdobbs2k ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:34:34 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to love.

xNe0n_Lights ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:13:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lil Wayne?

Homeward_Bound416 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:31:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm great at everything I do. Sorry folks, there are lots of people better at things than you and the world will humble you if you don't realize this early in your adulthood.

trollshand ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:56:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My ridiculous non-specific accent that I've seemingly developed from my Mom. She talks with this sort of drawl, see? But it doesn't quit FIT anywhere. You can hear the Albertan, you can hear the Newfie, but it isnt either of them. They're combined with this 'roundness' to the way she speaks, somewhat Southerny, that makes conversations interesting. The worst part is, I catch myself doing it to. 'Button' is 'Bud-din', 'Goat' is 'Goo-aadt', the 'th' is a solid sound in the weirdest of places; I can go on for ages on how we thoroughly butcher the English language.

I usually catch myself during situations that there seems to be too much information available for me to process all at once, and seeing as she also taught me that every Crisis with a capital 'C' requires as many homemade baked goods as humanly possible, I'd rather fuck the spoken word than auto-pilot to the kitchen any day.

Randomnumberrrrr ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:05:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That women don't like sex. I was told that it was painful and if I convinced a girl to do it I was hurting her and I was a bad person.

kekonn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:23:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hate to break it to you, but whoever taught you that was abused. Most likely sexually.

Randomnumberrrrr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:28:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, my mother was raped. But that's no excuse for making me socially awkward with girls.

kekonn ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 10:09:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If she never got professional help, there was little she could do really. Such experiences scar you to your core.

hedonisticmasochist ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:10:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to learn that I'm allowed to have feelings and that strength does not come from being numb, inconsiderate and insensitive. I'm still an asshole but only 50% of the time now.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:40:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I shouldn't be social. I always talked to people at school and stuff but they discouraged me to be with them, even though they were honestly nice people. I love my parents, but when I move out, I am going to start blossoming out

zhongweibin ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:29:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

๋˜ฅ์นจ. It's a innocent game between family and friends. I've heard it as kancho and thousand years of pain. Basically you make a gun with both of your hands and ram it up someone's unsuspecting butt. I did it at school to my close friend in like the first grade and was sent to the principles office. Now I just never do it.

bean1305 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:29:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My wife's dad taught her that 'Dan Marinos' was another word for diarrhea when she was little. She used the term when we were engaged, and had to explain herself to her confused fiancรฉ (me). Watching her face go from confused, to understanding, to horror at being duped for 18 years was priceless.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:34:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mormonism.

HughJamerican ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:36:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The imperial system.

soolaimon ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:40:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mormonism.

FlaginaSaggins ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:53:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Unhealthy eating habits and use of food as an emotional outlet. Whole family is obese.

GuyontheGrassyKnoll ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:59:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion. Though I didn't unlearn it as much as stopped caring once I was away from home.

dietoilette ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:17:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To hide my emotions.

evdog_music ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:04:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Ouch... I hope you're better at expressing yourself nowadays.

justastudent89 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:23:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the Star Wars movies weren't based on books :( Was told by my dad the movies were based on 3 separate trilogies of books, and in the time before the internet I didn't know any better. Spent far more time than I should have trying to find those books.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:07:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you should help everyone unconditionally. This is a great premise in theory, until people see you as a doormat and take advantage of you. The world isn't as sweet as my parents thought it to be in their "bubble" and you should only help people when asked or in dire need.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:09:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not me, but someone I know has self-worth and self-esteem problems from years of her piece of shit stepdad drilling terrible ideas into her head. For example, she has a stutter, right? She's got this idea in her head that she's literally retarded or something because of it. She never talks in our voice chat because she thinks everyone will think that and will be annoyed to no end if they hear it.

It's sad but the perception of herself that her stepdad reinforced is probably going to be hard for her to unlearn.

LittleLadyModel ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:30:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism, sexism, that "straight" and "gay" aren't the only sexual orientations, that its okay to be gay, that women can have real jobs... I could go on

nicih ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:35:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mom always said we were super poor. Still she had two cars only for her use. She said she worked three jobs, that may be true. She was never at home. I never knew anything personal of my mom. She is a narcissist. I haven't talked to her one word after she threw me out on my eighteenth birthday. But I did find my father, who was driven fatty far away from us when they split when I was 3 years old.

So she bought the cheapest food ever. Fries, fatty meat pies (those pocket one's), sausages, white bread, chocolate spread for bread, macaroni, macaroni, fish fingers, more macaroni. We never ate as a family because she was never at home. We were three kids, and we had to make these foods ourselves. We never got to learn to eat salad or veggies or even fruits.

We did a lot of sports and manual labor from a very young age so we were thin. But we were really really unhealthy. When I moved out, and my back hurt so bad I had to be in bed rest for a few years. I put on weight. I had a really really bad flu at least 5-15 times per year, often in series. It was awful.

After I learned to eat normal, healthy home cooked food in my latest relationship, I haven't been sick once. I feel healthy and only after a year of eating healthy, I had my blood works done for a new job. The nurse said it was the best stats she's seen in years. I was very proud of learning how to eat healthy. I want to teach my kids that from the very beginning. Healthy food is not the cheapest, but it will be in the long run.

VictoriaInParis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:20:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She was never at home. I never knew anything personal of my mom.

Did you find out what she worked with eventually, and why she was never at home?

nicih ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I only knew one of her jobs, the other one's were, and still are, a mystery. And I still don't know why she was never at home.. She threw me out over 8 years ago.

wunkadurgenfaceball ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:27:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To respond with anger and frustration to minor misfortunes throughout the day.

Eleanor_Bruiseavelt ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:46:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My Dad used to tell me when I was little to "Get my feet dressed" when it was time to put my shoes and socks on. I thought it was completely normal until I said it in front of my friends one day and they burst out laughing at me. I still catch myself saying it and have to correct myself.

ZigZagDUCK ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:51:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's the most 'Dad' thing I've ever heard. Only a fucking Dad would ever say a phrase like that lol

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:51:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Minxinpink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow...flashback.

ArmorJr ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:53:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Reliogious mind washing. Proud Atheist now :)

Onihige ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:20:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

โ€œYou know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young." "Why, what did she tell you?" "I don't know, I didn't listen.โ€

FriarDan ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 11:26:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That men are womanizing pigs.

My Parents got divorced when i was about 7 and they stayed friends though out the rest of my dads life, but my mom grew bitter in the dating scene and i can remember very clearly my mother asking me "What are all men?" and me answering enthusiastically from the back seat. "Pigs! we're all pigs!" to this day its very hard for me to enter into a relationship because i feel like I'm not worth the trouble, and I'm in constant need of emotional reassurance.

Oddly enough women don't seem to be into that. :/

sarudesu ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 11:46:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

OMG so many things. I was raised by my grandma who said thinks like MILLIK (for milk) or FILLIM (for film). She taught me that as a female, leaving the house was asking for a raping or murder. She was part of the culture that believes a skirt is responsible for turning men into rapists so made sure anything I brought home that was too slutty (I didnt dress slutty, but hey, knees may have been shown) was immediately lost. Then there is my dad, whos fave saying is "I am showing you what not to do. Im leading by bad example". This isnt the berenstain bears, papa bear.. I actually do need to know how to budget, interact with people and otherwise lead an adult life.

I think the worst though, was my stupid cat Tiger. Without him, my toes would freely be able to hang off the bed.

makattak88 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:46:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

After reading this thread, it makes me glad my parents are sane. Jesus fuck there's some fucked up stories here.

tennisboy123 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:02:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

religion

Codswallop613 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:54:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For me, it was bigotry. I was told from a young age to never bring home another man or a black girl, or I'd have to find a new home. Fast forward a couple of decades, and my wife's family is the most accepting group of people I've ever met. Fully half of them are some variety of gay, and not one is remotely racist. I learned very quickly how good it feels to be accepting, and let all that bigoted bullshit go.

SkadooshCanoe12 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:00:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They taught me that I was indebted to them- they spent the first 18 years of my life providing me with a home, food, clothing, and everything else. How dare I ask to be paid back when I buy paper towels?

TrixyMalicious ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:16:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother taught me that if someone disrespects you then you beat their ass. I had a rough time putting that one away. Even now I struggle with wanting to punch people in the face. Sometimes they really need it. But I can't be the one to go around handing them out.

plokool ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:19:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ITT: some funny stuff, mostly a lot of abuse. I'm rooting for all of you and now I'm also kind of grateful that the worst I can think of is my mom's constant worrying contributing to my (as-yet undiagnosed but so obviously there) anxiety. That and my fear of bees.

bobloadmire ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 04:47:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This thread makes me realize my parents were on point

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:56:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm ADHD. A few years ago I stumbled across my developmental screening paperwork and other medical documents from childhood and discovered that I am in fact Autistic (very high functioning), but was never told because my dad would not accept that his firstborn son had autism. Through examining the papers, I discovered that my parents took me to doctor after doctor until they found one who was willing to diagnose me with ADHD instead of autism. I do remember going to all of the different doctors, but of course at the time I wasn't aware of why I was being taken to so many.

I had to unlearn that my feelings of isolation and otherness and crippling social confusion were things to be ignored. They suddenly had meaning. To all at once have an explanation for why I've felt so completely different than literally everyone else was - and continues to be - very overwhelming. I haven't confronted my parents about it directly. I have a very tenuous relationship with them as it is, and going down the "why did you hide my autism from me" road would change our relationship in ways I'm afraid to confront.

There are a host of other things I've had to unlearn from my father. The big one is that any form of disagreement means that I was "fighting him," and being disrespectful. I could go on and on and on about my Dad and the wrongheaded lessons he's bashed into my head, but I'd be typing all day so I'll just close this post out lol.

squirrlythebish ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 23:59:04 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's ok to fail sometimes.

Sangued ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:48:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I disagree. It most certainly is okay to fail sometimes. That's how we learn and improve ourselves.

squirrlythebish ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:37:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm saying I had to unlearn that it's not ok to fail -- my fault.

OrangeBall523 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 05:42:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You failed to communicate your point effectively, and that's okay.

madmaxx ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:30:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion. Fucking brainwashing.

Bretreck ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:51:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm still unlearning that a couple is the same thing as a few.

Scythe_of_the_Celt ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:00:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Paranoia towards everyone and teaching us to mistrust everyone we meet. Now that I look back, it ostracized us from our neighbors and from all our relatives and prevented the formation of any friendships during childhood.

Just like they didn't trust each other, they didn't trust us. Eventually, no one trusted anyone at all.

HuntingQuilles ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:02:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They taught me abuse was ok.

accidentalpbandj ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:03:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I could eat as much food as I want and not get fat, as long as it was healthy food.

Fimbultyr ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:37:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom has a number of word choices that were abnormal and coming from a boy were somewhat effeminate. Instead of chap stick, she always says lip gloss, and I didn't realize that actual lip gloss was makeup until about 10. Ibuprofin she calls motrin, which is some kind of period medication which is mostly Ibuprofin, but that one took even longer for me to realize wasn't the normal name.

ThrowingQs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:03:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Motrin is for migraines , not periods. You're thinking of Midol.

Fimbultyr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:26:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Okay, well, I guess I can feel less bad about that one.

BenjamintheFox ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:51:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm going to link something relevant to this conversation, especially since I'll bet a lot of you were Ren and Stimpy fans growing up.

http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com.br/2012/06/happy-fathers-day.html

Rachiebabe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:54:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Avocado is pronounced "advocado".

Don't swear.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:26:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

GravityBringer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ck.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:15 on November 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:12:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism. Dad loved to call any races their most derogatory terms. My mother is mexican, and he ALWAYS called her a wetback. I learned early to hate people who are different. I learned later that it's just fine to be different. It was weird. I love my dad, don't get me wrong, but it was tough to be around him a lot.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:27:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:27:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Catholicism

toothyfalcon ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:44:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Doing things based on extremely specific instructions. At my workplace (fire department), I've had to learn to make swift, accurate decisions based on limited information and changing variables. Man, it took many long months to learn to comprehend vague instructions.

Heddron ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:45:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That hitting people when you're angry is ok.

gossip_earl ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:53:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Disordered eating and food as an emotional response to everything. Spending time with my family puts me in this state of mind that is streamlined towards finding literally any food I can get my hands on the quickest. I can't really blame them because it's a problem of wider culture, but when I call my mom up and tell her how I'm struggling with something I want her to talk me through it, not say "yeah that must be hard" and overnight me a care package filled with cheetos and cupcakes.

Lunatic335 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I know this a very serious topic and I know it's taking a lot to overcome something like this but.... "Wider culture" TEHEHEHEHEHE. You did that on purpose didn't you โ™ช(ยดฮต๏ฝ€ )

boothnat ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:54:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That my cousin was my 'sister'. Only figured it out when I finished confusing the shit out of my teacher. Dammit relatives.

unseen-streams ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:00:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

South Asian family?

boothnat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:09:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How-

Yeah, Indian.

BrackGin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:01:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That black is the mix of all colors.

If your using paint the way you make black paint has some cool physics involved. The chemical composition is made so that is bounces, or more specifically absorbs, certain wave lengths therefore mixing all sorts of paint would result in absorbing all lights wavelengths. She thought that because it had all the colors mixed in it meant that's how black was made, but in actuality you are just seeing that it reflects nothing therefore it's black.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:01:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mormonism

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:02:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That i have more potential in life than being a stay at home mom that has a huge gaggle of kids. I can go to school for something other than a homemaking skill.

Also dinosaurs were real.

trashtastictakeout ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:02:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That God was real.

SunriseSurprise ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:02:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Catholicism

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:03:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's ok to hit a child...

crazycrawfish ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 07:06:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hitting kids as punishment is ok, Beating kids is not.

Minxinpink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hitting kids teaches them that it's okay to hit people who don't do what you want and who are weaker/smaller than you. There are better ways to parent your child.

DaisyKitty ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:05:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

When we were really little, my parents liked to tell us these outrageous stories (lies!) about ordinary things just because it amused them. Like there are animals called 'naugas' and that's where naugahyde comes from. That milk comes in a six bottle-basket because they stick them right under the cow's six udders to fill the bottles. That Leonard Bernstein wrote the song from West Side Story 'Maria' (a variation on my name) just for me. That Stanford's Hoover Tower was the leaning Tower of Pisa and when we were driving through Stanford,we were really in Italy. And quite a few more. They were embedded in our tiny psyches as truths and were unlearned only when a circumstance provoked their memory in me as teenager and would give me pause, as in "Wait, that can't be true!" Then I would remember them laughing or smiling at each other and it all made sense. There's a street in a nearby town that is my first name. My mother told me the mayor named it after me, which was sort of plausible since my parents knew the mayor and his family. But I must have been 35 when I caught myself starting to say 'This street was named after me!' No, wait that can't be right ...

SolitarySysadmin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:05:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your cows have 6 teats? Or is that another lie your parents told? Just for reference I've only ever been around cows with 4 but I haven't been everywhere.

DaisyKitty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, it was part of the story.

SolitarySysadmin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:43:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Okay, that makes a lot more sense now. Couldn't imagine a world where cows had 6 teats.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:21:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism and Religiosity. It's been a rough road.

HumanRevert ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:28:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

Imgettingscrewed ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:34:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

WilyGoose ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:35:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That male deer (bucks) don't grow out of the ground, head-first. Dammit dad, you KNEW that was just a pile of sticks all along!

SolitarySysadmin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:08:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Now that's hilarious :)

Bond----JamesBond ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:36:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother mostly about religion.

monkey5465 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:36:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

paradisecity5665 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:37:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

LightsStayOnInFrisco ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:37:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Creationism.

atraw ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:39:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

ChinMuziq75 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:40:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mormonism

justabiologist ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:40:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

velocipedic ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:40:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion. Plain and simple.

Riptide559 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:44:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity

yuna1881 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:44:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Catholicism

grandmoffcory ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:44:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was taught to politely refuse anything that's offered to me, like for example if you show up at someone's house and they say "Would you like anything to drink?" no matter how thirsty I was I was taught to say "No, thank you." and we'd stop somewhere after the visit for a drink instead.

To this day on the rare occasion I accept something from someone I feel extremely guilty, or like I now am indebted to them indefinitely. I worry that I'm a burden on them now and if I accept anything else they'll decide I'm not worth the trouble. I won't drink anything but tap water as a guest and I won't eat food other than leftovers unless I've either contributed or the purpose of my visit was to eat together. It's pretty fucked up, I don't think I'll ever really unlearn it though. It's just a part of me now.

Mrbasie ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:46:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

BAMbaca ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:49:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mormonism.

AdamasMustache ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:50:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity.

GoonFromGoonsville ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:51:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That my dad was a horrible person. She raised me to believe that I shouldn't love him because he was a horrible person and that he didn't want me. I'm older now and realized and realized how wrong she was. He hated my mom, not me. In fact, I can see how much it hurts my father when he finds out something he didn't know about me because he never got a chance to see me grow up but he really wanted to be my dad. I love my mom but that was probably the worst thing she has ever done. All the problems that she had with my dad should have been kept between them so that I could've felt like I had a dad. Our relationship is alot better now though. I just ignore whenever my mom talks bad about him.

Uniqueusername_54 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:52:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity...

from_ether_side ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:54:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That Mormonism is the happiest way of life.

Proddx ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:55:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

saltesc ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:59:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That religion is a good thing

tuxed0_cat ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:02:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not something my parents taught me.. But when I was about 11 and my sister was about 5 I told her that she was born without kneecaps and the doctors put in bars of soap in place. I had a good laugh and went on my merry way mostly forgetting about it. My sister believed she had bars of soap for knee caps until middle school.

SolitarySysadmin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:13:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's so typical of older siblings, being one myself :)

Goatmaster3000_ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:05:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That adults always behave. I unlearned that pretty fast when some woman threatened to poison my dog.

ih8umum ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:15:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I would argue that adults do behave. The person you are talking about was a child.

NeoTribe ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:07:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

Gambition ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:14:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity

Blinknone ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:29:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The bathroom is NOT called "the banana patch"

abruce123412 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:06:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Telling that to my kids

ViceTerm ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:30:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That all woman need to be respected regardless of what they are like...

mountstephen ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:50:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's hard for me to unlearn but I ALWAYS ask to use the washroom. I was really drunk and I accidently asked a bartender to use the washroom. It was so embarrassing.

StuRap ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:00:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To hold doors open for women. That still kinda works for most older women but not so much for younger ones but also fine for some younger ones. I'm so fucking confused.

M3n747 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:39:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's just being polite and helpful.

StuRap ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:55:27 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's what I think, but being told that "I can open a door" when I do it... it's confusing

CurrentID ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:05:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
  • Pink is gay, only women belong in the kitchen, men don't cry, pretty much all the standard sexism stuff. It took me a long time but I finally unlearned all that shit.

  • Sex is awful, so is masturbating, anything sexual-related is bad and you should feel bad for wanting it. Absolutely inappropriate to talk about sex or even think about sex, even for baby-making purposes. Sex is just a necessary evil that should really be abolished.

I'm still working through the sex thing. I'm way better than I used to be (I cried during or after sex every time until I was 22. I'm 28 now).

For an idea on how deep this goes, I still feel uncomfortable kissing people on the mouth. My parents always described kissing as "swapping spit" in a derogatory way. I still have a load of hangups over sex in general but I'm getting better very slowly... It's really difficult for me to date anyone because there's so much fear involved. Especially now that I'm older, it's hard to trust people to be able to deal with my sex issues.

Also I feel like I'm missing out on the whole "one night stand" thing. I wish I was ok enough to do that sometimes, because it's not like I don't have a sex drive... But it would be unfair to expect a stranger to deal with my sex-related emotional problems.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:47:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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7_up_curly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:58:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

r/raisedbynarcissists

I am sorry you had to go through that. Your parents are control freaks who deliberately kept you immature/dependent on them to keep you forever under their thumb. A common tactic with narc parents.

You start by doing things for yourself, without telling them, slowly at first. Take it in small steps first, force yourself to do things every now and then that are new experiences like see a new part of town, watch a movie from a genre you wouldn't normally see.

Good luck.

_The-Big-Giant-Head_ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:47:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus loves you.

No he doesn't, he died long time ago and he cant do nothing to affect my life.

HansCarabonala ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:51:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The world is a cynical piece of shit, everyone will treat you like shit, everyone out there does bad things because they love to, it's better to die as soon as possible and life is the worst sentence that there is.

I mean, they had a shit life, but you can't tell that a child...

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:52:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

being unconditionally nice even when someone is berating you. they taught me to never be rude and confrontive. like yea its a good thing to be nice but when it leads to you never standing up for yourself when people are saying hurtful things to your face, because you dont want to hurt them, even though they are hurting you- it sucks.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:54:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion & god.

Deajessy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:38:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You don't have to use a separate bowl to scramble eggs, you can just scramble them in the skillet. Figured that one out at 28

dronz_ ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:43:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity

FuckGiblets ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:46:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Catholicism.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:54:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My Grandmother told me that I needed to hold in my farts and then fart in the bathroom. One day we were driving down to southern Illinois which was a 5 hour drive for me. I had to fart so bad but held it in. I ended up getting a stomach ache and she asked me what was wrong. I told her I had to fart and was waiting until we went to the bathroom but it was making me sick. Then she realized she fucked up. She is 92 now and I still make sure I fart around her always.

Willyillywonka ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:19:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That driving under. 80kmph with 'overdrive' on would eventually blow up the car. My dad really believes it to this day!

Hadou_Jericho ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:20:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That Jesus was real and that the same God who helps people win Super Bowls kills innocent children.

That_Kai_Guy ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:34:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you should never invite yourself. My mother is a wonderful woman, and this probably wasn't her intent, but I interpreted that as "never invite yourself to anything." It is something that made asking for help very difficult (I mean, partly because she also always said "I shouldn't have to ask for help; you should just help," which is its own can of worms. She's also usually talking about housework, tbf).

For example, I had 3 friends apply for PhD programs at the same time as me, but I wasn't invited along to work with them. It wasn't until after I didn't get in and they did that one of them pulled me aside to tell me that she thought that I didn't want to join them because I never asked. It was a bit of a mind-blowing experience. And "a bit" is a major understatement. I ended up curled into a ball on my couch, my at-the-time girlfriend holding me, while I cried, realizing that my friends wanted to help me but thought I didn't want any help from them.

I still have issues with asking for help, but I'm working on it.

CptBeetle ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:47:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have a huge scar across my back, from surgery as an infant. Anyway, at somepoint in my very early childhood, either my mum or my dad informed me it was from a sharkbite. Now, as a small child, this actually seemed like a perfectly reasonable explanation for the huge scar across my back.

Years later, I was telling someone, perhaps a friend over from school, that I had been bitten by a shark and my parents called me out on the lie. I was so confused.

They looked at me like I was a fucking retard "...hahahahaha.. you were never bitten by a shark!!! Why would you think that!?"

xHellion444x ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:51:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion. It's all magical fantasy bullshit. When you point that out about homeopathy (correctly) you get cheered, when you say the same about religion (also correctly) you get booed.

Fuzzlechan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:16:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eh. Not-crazy religious people don't hurt anyone, so I don't see any harm in believing in a god.

I personally believe God created the big bang, because why the fuck not create a universe if you have the power to do so? Everything that came after that is because of the laws of physics and random chance, he just sits somewhere outside our universe and watches it all.

ApoChaos ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:10:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

They fuck you up, your mum and dad.

They may not mean to, but they do.

They fill you with the faults they had

And add some extra, just for you.

But they were fucked up in their turn

By fools in old-style hats and coats,

Who half the time were soppy-stern

And half at one another's throats.

Man hands on misery to man.

It deepens like a coastal shelf.

Get out as early as you can,

And don't have any kids yourself.

-Philip Larkin

TheOrcThatCould ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:21:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being open and honest with people all the time.

People just exploit you, It's nice in theory but nobody is nice all the time

zeldaisaprude ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:46:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you can just pull out frozen meat the night before and leave it out until dinner time the next day. Granted I've not gotten ill from years of that, but I'm just going to believe I was real lucky and never do it again.

gesserit ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:47:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad was not a super cool hero. My dad played that whole ex military badass thing with me all my childhood, it was the 80's and I was convinced he had been a real awesome dude before I was born. Turned out he wasn't, he had been in the military, yes, but he was in fact just a guy who had had a shitty childhood and suffered from extreme PTSD. He valued and respected agression and violence to solve problems. It took me years to realize I could have a conversation with someone with a different opinion that didn't end in an uncivil way. Also, the world was not out to get me Also, being agressive for no reason is a sign of weakness, not a sign of being a badass.

Trivm001 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:56:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know if they taught me this or if it's something cultural, but I'm trying very hard to unlearn that life doesn't have to be all about sacrifice. As an example - I'm a Doctor, recently graduated. I don't like medicine. I made a mistake and I went into this field. It's OK, it happens. I would really like to quit and do something I really enjoy - I'm not even sure what that is, but I know it isn't this. The thing is, I'm a good doctor. I know I could do it for the rest of my life if I have to. But I desperately don't want to. But the thought of not doing it - the thought of completing a residency in family practice, starting a business and pulling away seems so wrong because it's easy. Because it's a way out, when I seem to have been programmed to think that any easy way out is a bad thing. That because it's easy, it's not worth having. So I am considering surgical or gynaecological residencies here that will make me miserable for the next ten years of training.

For anyone out there in the same situation, do as I say, not as I do.

Imyoursecretary ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:59:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you always have to respect people who are older than you. Turns out people who are older can also be useless jerks, only they've been doing it longer.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:17:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That once your child turns 18 they shouldn't be helped. I just started to learn that's not how most people operate, and it has worked out better for their kids. When mine get that old I'm going to help them if they need it.

fakeeric ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:20:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm almost 29 and my folks still help me out. I'm on my own and pay my own bills but occasionally some help is needed. They help and I am gracious. Good on you for keeping that mindset

BenificusAngorio ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:20:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That being able to make someone cry doesn't make you better than them, and that being nice doesn't make you a sucker.

seilskwon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:20:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Spicy/hot food is gross and therefore hot sauce is a waste of money and pointless.

Curry is disgusting and just makes you smell.

Alcohol can't be enjoyed, it's only purpose is to get you drunk so it is evil.

My dad is very stubborn and has his own views on things that he thinks everyone should follow. Food and drink was the avenue he'd really let that shine. In my early 20's I realized my mother actually loves a glass of wine and likes spicy food but never cooked it because "dad didn't like it". As mom gets older she is exploring these things she was never allowed to try (married at 18 to a man 5 years her senior, 3 kids by 28) and loving it while my dad looks more and more like a stubborn brat who no longer gets his way. He hates veggies and my mom made this kickass chicken salad with all sorts of seasoning, spices and veggies when I was visiting. Dad was just picking through it eating the chicken, he legitimately wouldn't eat his vegetables so my mom threatened no dessert (he has a ridiculous sweet tooth) and forced him to eat his whole plate. It was glorious. I love visiting and seeing her not put up with his shit anymore after 40 years of marriage.

BigGrizzDipper ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:31:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

there are better options than tighty whiteys and tube socks

oliverbm ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:37:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Following your dreams! Dreams don't put food on the fucking table

splinterthumb ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:45:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Parents grew up in WW2, their parents went through both wars. This resulted in 2 generations of a " don't throw that away, we can use it for something" mentality. This behavior made sense during times of scarcity, unfortunately there was little training as far as to what degree this philosophy should be applied, so by the time it got to me it was literally save everything. It has served me well at times in that I can fix a lot of shit with a lot of the shit I have in my Sanford and Son garage. I have realized though that I would like to park my cars in said garage, and that I can buy that icemaker on Amazon for $25.00. I don't need 4 old icemakers from every fridge I've owned to get ice restored. I'm throwing out/donating a ton of shit. edit word.

drinkit_or_wearit ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:57:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism.

I was maybe 13-14 when I got my first job and started working with some awesome people who weren't white, a mix of black people and predominantly Mexican hispanics. I hated it because I had been told my whole life that "those people" are beneath us. Luckily it didn't take long to learn that really, my family was trailer trash and most of the guys I was working with were way better people than my own dad.

snuffinhuffin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:02:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Was raised as a jehovah's witness.. Take your pick.

MacadamNumber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

everything ? :D

snuffinhuffin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:46:13 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty much

Zenben88 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:04:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother told me that when jumping a car, after connecting one end of the cables to the battery that you should tap the other ends of the cables together to make sure you got a good connection. No mom, that's how you blow shit up.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:18:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad taught me that it was ok to eat snack food until you're full, whenever you're hungry. I had a serious weight problem for most of my childhood.

ekvq ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:23:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That circumcision is a normal thing and uncircumcised penises are dirty and have all sorts of infections.

Rando_gabby ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:46:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ridiculously painful painful periods, regularly missing whole days to cower in pain, and bleeding through absolutely everything for days, wasn't normal.

I finally ended up in the hospital over multiple things, one of which is called 'endometriosis'

Imagine everyone's surprise when it finally dawned on us that every female in the family (my two sisters, my mom, and I) almost definitely had it.

(We have to sorta self diagnose because the only official way is minor surgery. I'm officially diagnosed now.)

Both my sisters and I are now on the pill to curb it, I'm taking it in a way that actually upright stops my periods, and we're doing much better now.

Even my mom seems to feel better about understanding why she had to force herself to go to work so often, and doesn't force us to do the same the way she used to.

maymays4u ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:22:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

That if someone spends money on you, you need to apologize.

That you're a bad person or smartass for questioning or asking why you are asked to do an odd demand.

That it's better to keep quiet than to ask an advanced question.

That you are always lesser than other people unless they express positive interest in you.

Edit/Added:

That doing things for others is more important and necessary than taking care of your primary needs.

That what the television says is just as/more important than what you have to say (a.k.a. yelling at you to stop talking until the TV is paused).

That your needs are extremely forgettable to those who are supposed to care the most about you.

That when in doubt, apologize.

That paying someone back is optional.

That saving for splurges is more important than expensive primary needs.

That you have to fight for sympathy.

That you don't deserve any comfort if you did something wrong.

That you can just stop being depressed.

That buying better things more expensive at first that pay off in the long run are not worth it versus cheaper things that will probably not even have a "long run."

That my sacrifices are not a big deal (because I am the child).

magikarpcandosplash ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:49:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism and classism. My parents always get angry at me whenever I treat servants/service people respectfully. My mom especially would mock the way I speak, repeating it and exaggerating it much like a child. They'll get furious at me whenever I get upset/embarrassed because of how rude and horrible they can be to service people. Once I remember I actually got a bit upset and complained at a restaurant because my order was horribly late (everyone had finished eating and my order was still nowhere in sight), and I asked the waiter (respectfully) to please check my food and that if it's not done yet, to just cancel it because I donโ€™t feel like eating anymore. My mom was surprised and said "so you know how to complain (to service)!". At that time I was so embarrassed at myself for being likened to her so I said "I know how to complain, and when I actually need to".

Related to the classism, I'm also terribly sheltered as a result of my parent's view on "the street people". I didn't know how to get anywhere without a car. I was really paranoid because of their fearmongering, and so was really afraid to try out public transportations. I finally tried using public transport during uni, and learned to trust others too. The chances of me going home safely is higher than getting raped/killed/robbed/kidnapped after all, so now I learned to dispell those fears and learn using the public transport/walking.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:51:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

My mother drilled it into my head that if I ever so much as thought I had to go see a doctor, I was a horrible child. If I said I felt sick, I was overreacting and it was all in my head. I was treated like I'd just pissed on my grandfather's grave if I needed medical attention even for very minor things. I developed a chronic respiratory problem out of the blue when I was a kid and the only reason my mother took me to a doctor for it was because my constant coughing annoyed her and kept her awake at night. I don't know what her problem was because she had insurance that I was also on and would have only needed to pay the copay for the visit and a few bucks for medication.

Even when I offered to pay the copay out of my saved money, she'd refuse to take me because she didn't want anyone to think less of her as a mother if her minor daughter was paying for her own medical care. But she wouldn't pay for it either. This is why I had to suffer for four months with a horribly painful sinus infection before my mother decided to take me to a doctor to shut me up. Because, y'know, going through an entire jar of Tylenol each week, every week, was a totally normal thing for a teenager to do.

The times I was allowed to receive medical attention, I'd be instructed by my mother to tell the doctor as little as possible of my symptoms. This is because I might say something that would make the doctor want to do additional tests and my mother didn't want me potentially costing her any more money with my pesky health complaints. A small part of me really wished I would have developed some fatal disease as a kid just so the doctor could tell my mother, "Well, she would have lived if you'd brought her in six months ago when she first mentioned her symptoms" and then she could watch me die knowing it was her fault. But since nothing is ever her fault, she'd probably have just blamed the doctors instead.

I now struggle with feelings of guilt anytime I need to go to the hospital (which is often. I have hypothyroidism and need to have regular visits to tweak my medication dosages).

ezreading ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:01:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You have nothing to feel guilty about. You and your health matter. Don't let your mother live in your head anymore. There's only one you, so take care of her.

JLynne44 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:34:38 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Don't let your mother live in your head anymore"

I get that you mean well but way easier said than done. I find the 'just do it' type of advise annoying.

It took a long time for the inner critic to become a fixture in the mind. If you could just rationalize it away, don't you think we'd have done it by now?

ezreading ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:16 on August 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You right, but every little bit of encouragement helps.

Deako87 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:24:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the spray bottle that had "Monster Spray" handwritten on the side wasn't actually monster repellent that mum used to kill the monsters in my closet, it was just fucking water.

My whole life is a lie. At least the monsters believed my mothers gambit too.

egoeccentric ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:10:09 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

flyinglifeaway ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:30:52 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To stay away from certain kinds of people because of their race or religion or sexual orientation which I really don't care about. I love people for who they are as a person and how they treat me and the others.

iRevLoneWolf ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:28:15 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity

[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 05:48:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
  • God exists

  • Women like nice guys

MeteorSage ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:20:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

[TIPPING INTENSIFIES]

ClarkKentsFedora ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:36:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Euphoric

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:34:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Women do like nice guys?

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:17:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

No because "nice guys" are usually boring incarnate and extremely feminized. women want to do shit and they want to do it with an attractive man. (think the song girls just want to have fun)

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:32:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think we are on the same opinion here and I misunderstood your original post.

Uberhypnotoad ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:14:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'd say religion was the biggest one.

appleburger17 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:46:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity.

fruitdonttalk1 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:25:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The Bible

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:54:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Weed is bad for you"

Lunatic335 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:02:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ehhhhh. Iffy at best. It's not like it's going to kill you immediately but tar is still a thing, though still no link to increased risk of cancer. And people who smoke weed later in life have not as good short term memory as those who don't smoke weed. And for medical uses the reward certainly out weigh any risk.

gasmasher ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:09:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm too young to write letters like that to a girl friend at age 9.

My mom was a Brownie mom and every once in awhile the girls would chase me and hold me down while Tiffany kissed my cheek. It was amazing and I really liked her. I was typing a letter for her and my dad walked in my room. He said it wasn't appropriate for my age.

It completely destroyed me confidence in talking to girls.

The next summer my cousins stayed with us for a couple of weeks. One night they dared each other to lick each others boy parts. I had to pretend to sleep while they blew each other in my bedroom.

Tl;Dr Can't write love letter at 9; watched cousins blow each other

[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 06:23:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

what did I just read?

TheBestOpinion ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:23:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What's the link between these ?! You can't tell that flatly without any buildup, by the time I had my pants down it was already over !

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:27:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Uhh, what??

gr8society ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:51:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you're only healthy if you're gluten free and dairy free. Didn't try bread for the first time until middle school...I feel that I've missed out on a lot

the_sloth_bear ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:26:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eat lots of biscuits

riotzombie ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 01:31:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity, the idea of no sex before marriage, rejection of evolution/global warming, subtle racism, and the notion that you have to have a degree to be successful.

zeissikon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:06:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I teach my kids that a degree will not make you successful. However, the lack of a degree in a moderately interesting field (STEM, foreign languages, law, medicine...and not arts or media) will give you a shitty life with 90% probability.

LittleGoblin ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 04:49:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just sounds like your parents didn't know much about all of those things.

riotzombie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom thinks she does. It's how she was raised, and her parents are even worse, and their parents, and so on. If I ever have kids, they'll be downright progressive.

the_sloth_bear ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:29:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same

Diplomarmus ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:47:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

existie ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:25:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Two periods after a space. I had an epic fight with my 5th grade teacher about that one.

MephistosGhost ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:51:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ITT nobody's parents know how to cook.

DraftingDave ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:43:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

That if you didn't mean to be offensive, someone shouldn't take offence.

Whether you meant it or not, if someone is offended by your actions, it's worth a discussion. And you simply dismissing their feelings is actually more offensive.

Tiresomehoopla ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:07:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

TheDarkSoul97 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 05:47:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That weed and drugs are the absolute worst thing ever and whoever does them are bad... Found out a few years ago that they smoke weed every now and then.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:08:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

My parents were the same. Made a huge stink about alcohol especially, even though they drank. Basically told me every time I drank I was an alcoholic and that since both my grand fathers were alcoholics, I had no choice.

If you're told you are something enough, even if you're not, you become that thing. So I did exactly that. I became an alcoholic drug addict. I was drinking 26s daily, sometimes 60s with friends. Mixed with speed, blow, H or benzos. Mostly speed though.

I told myself, this is what you are. Because my parents did. So I was.

I spent my high-school years fucked up in class, after class and years after dropping out. Until about 2 years ago.

I don't even remember most of the last decade.

I've cleaned up now and started a family, but I'm still working to fix the mess I've made over the last decade.

  • I fucked up my credit by getting a card and withdrawing hundreds of dollars for drugs and subsequently quitting my job due to being fucked up the next day. Pushing my debt to the side for about 6 years

  • Dropped out of highschool

  • Burned every bridge with every job I've ever had.

Just to name a few.

If they didn't add that stigma and tell me that to punish me for having liquor even at the legal age and just talk to me about drugs and alcohol rationally. Instead of just blowing things out of proportion and labeling me an addict, before I even was.. maybe things would have been different.

TheDarkSoul97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Super glad that you're doing well! I kind of had a complete opposite effect. I've lived my whole life not trying anything and being extremely uncomfy around any kind of weed/beer/drug. I'm a social butterfly but going to parties stopped being fun in high school because it wasn't just about hanging out, it was more about hanging out and getting fucked up. It's given me a bit of a rough time with losing many nights of hanging out due to not being invited anymore and even lost a gf of almost 4 years because she wanted to experiment around and I was just extremely uncomfy about it and was literally the only issue in an otherwise great relationship. My parents are alcoholics and I always hated them when they're drunk. They're ass holes. I never want to be like that. But... The longer I go without doing things like that it seems the lonelier I get. I tried to smoke weed about a month ago, but I held the lighter on the weed way too long and tried to suck in like crazy I just got a headache and fell asleep xD my best friend is all about LSD now, and for the first few months he really wanted me to join him. But he rarely even talks to me anymore and it makes me feel like I wish my parents opted to make me more comfy with experimenting responsibly.

rogersimon011 ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 23:42:40 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to fix cars. I'm convinced to this day that he did it just to mess with me, because he taught me all kinds of things about cars that were just utter nonsense. He made up so many parts, too. For example, one of the things he used to say is

"If you ever hear squeaking while you're driving, you need to reflagulate the Submontague."

I was convinced that was a real thing until a few years ago. I actually called him a few weeks ago because I was having issues with my car, and I (obviously) had no clue how to fix it. I was stuck on the shoulder of the road, and he got there in about an hour. I told him the problem, and he went to the back of my car, grabbed my jumper cables, beat the shit out of me until I saw stars, then drove away. Turns out, my battery had just come unattached. I just reattached it, and I was on my merry way! That was a close one!

KingDarkBlaze ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 02:11:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're a phony

Toxicitor ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:24:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm out of the loop here.

Dokrzz_ ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:36:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There was a dude called /u/rogersimon10 I think who always posted stories that ended with his dad beating him with jumper cables. He stopped posting and this dude is trying to continue the legacy.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:35:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

an impostor!

drdumke ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:31:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

didn't even see the joke coming. Upvoted and applauded.

reallymobilelongname ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:22:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Joke?

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:01:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

god dammit

mankiller27 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haven't seen you in a while. Welcome back.

Edit: wait a minute. You're an imposter!

theSilverknight45 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:03:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holy shit! HEY EVERYBODY, ROGERS BACK!

NotYourJesus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:08:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lazyness

Avaloneve ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:50:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was taught for a while not to ever, ever complain. It was most likely due to multiple siblings and a lack of time. It carried over as I grew with extraordinary consequences, like situations that complaining/being assertive would have saved me from a lot of horror.

Still have to gauge whether I should be assertive or not carefully, and I'm usually wrong.

mofugsmcnasty ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:53:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:00:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

vigalovescomics ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:27:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's okay to ask for help.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:33:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That stoicism was most important.

Frugalista1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:35:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother always told me I could have an opinion as long as it matched hers. I was 40 before I got past it.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:37:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sociopathy.

420noscopebroccoli ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:40:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

All drugs are bad.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:52:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you stay with your spouse, no matter what, because you made a solemn vow in front of your friends, family, the church and God.

Fuck that.

My ex is my ex because she was a horrid cunt who traded me, her daughter and a life together as a family so she could get fucked.

This shitty bit of parenting advice and ingrained conservative Christian thinking kept me from leaving her the first two times it happened. I'll go to hell for breaking my vows before I'll live another day with that selfish conniving bitch in my short life.

non_clever_username ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:23:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That any kind of travel for fun outside of a ~300 mile driveable radius is a waste of money and should never be done.

Only acceptable exception is if you're going to visit family.

Monkeyfanboy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:25:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to eat. They think a low fat, high carb diet is good. I've gone mostly Paleo, lost weight and feel great. I love the internet so I can research and leave my 4 kids a better food and eating legacy.

DevoidofSunlight ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:25:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My ma grew up uber poor. So I was taught that I wasn't allowed to leave the table without finishing my plate. I have to remind myself I can stop eating a meal at any time, for any reason. Look at me, I am the adult now.

floyd_the_barbarian ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:30:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity.

dringle_brother ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:37:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jebus

boythinks ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:39:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion...

stycks32 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:39:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One word. Religion.

jthomas694 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:41:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That everything the light touches is my kingdom....

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:41:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

onik_nako ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:45:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:46:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

ivanttobealone ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:50:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

wow i came in here with a few good ideas for a comment and now i'm just super grateful

BastardtheGreen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:51:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion. Racism. Bigotry.

keepkushinmypocket ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:51:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That weed was just as bad as meth

CherryDaBomb ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:53:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Warsh."

There's no R in wash, mom.

FrancisCastiglione12 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:00:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"I put my clothes in the Chester drawers."

Cough. Chest of drawers

MeShortyy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:54:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God

tomak00 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:58:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God

coltsmetsfan614 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:00:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Catholicism

catchyawns ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:01:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

SkyMaro ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:02:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being a religious, close-minded, judgemental, asshole. I'm a lot better now, but it's pretty deeply ingrained in there.

veggietrooper ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:02:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

timooteexo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:03:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Gender roles and establishing who you are as an individual that must adhere to societal norms.

Pretty much got ignored for months after getting a few tattoos/piercings and dressing alt in my adolescence.

Apollo3519 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:04:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That any god was "imperically" real

soulofjd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:06:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion..once you open your eyes and look at the big picture, it's hard to believe in a diety.

Delsana ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:07:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That there's only one way to do things. Sorry, but no. Arguments aplenty remain though.

speckofsand ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:13:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I didn't have to "just get a job and make money" ...I could have gone and studied something that would've made me happy, not stuck..

BRINGMEDATASS ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:14:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:16:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion. I was told I couldn't talk to guys basically until I was married I couldn't wear what any shirts that showed past my wrist and collarbone, or pants - skirts only past the knees with stockings!!....plus a whole bunch of other crazy rules...like having two separate sets of kitchen appliances for milk and meat. I couldn't use any technology on the weekend. Prayer before every meal, every bite of food, when you wake up and go to sleep. Not eating for 24 hours at a time. Of course after all that, I have to unlearn anger.. haha oh well.

SwampDonkey420 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:17:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to shove religion down other's throats.

Gallerian ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:18:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you shouldn't give automatic respect to people older than you just because they're older or just because they are related to you. Sure, it made rifts between me and a few of my family members, but I'm not going to respect the most homophobic, bible humping, misogynistic people I know just because they are older/related to me.

IceEye ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:18:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sex and Intimacy is something that I should be ashamed of.

I thought getting married would change it, but I still sometimes get a guilty "pit" in my stomach afterwords. I'm honestly not sure if I'll ever be 100% rid of the feeling, but I'm sure as hell not going to let it get in our way.

Edit: just to be clear I did not get married just to get rid of the guilty feeling after sex lol

FauxPastel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:19:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism.

Thanks Ma!

_NiceGuyEddy_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:21:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

to respect women

Minxinpink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Seen several times here so: why would you want to unlearn respect for women?

Tashdacat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:24:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Coming into your 12 year olds room and trying to murder them because of stress is not an acceptable way to parent children.

coolfir3pwnz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:26:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The wrong rules to beer pong omg fuck you dad

oilcompanywithbigdic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:27:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That god is real

Brubbers ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:28:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

bleach18 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:28:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

Rose_Beef ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:29:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

lemonlavenderr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:30:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
  • That a homosexual male/female isn't immediately a terrible person
  • abortion is not something to look down on.
  • just because a person does not agree with someone else's lifestyle (because of religious affiliation), DOES NOT mean that it's okay to take away their rights (gay marriage/abortion)

You can still be Team Jesus and understand that it doesn't matter what walk of life someone comes from or decides to walk on, your job as a Christian is to LOVE them, not judge them.

My mom was a "Harry Potter has devil worship in it" and "if you have fun on Halloween, then you're indirectly worshipping the devil" kind of Christian. Absolute hell to live with. I had to unlearn all sorts of BS.

Rezruk72 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:31:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That anyone of a different color, religion, or sexuality were awful people and should be avoided. Through my being an atheist, having many gay friends, and dating girls that weren't white even they stopped being bigots over time. Before my dad passed away he would even go out for drinks with my gay buddies.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:34:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother and grandmother used to tell me that Mexicans are Native Americans cross-bred with Spaniards.

My mother also told me she would disown me if I ever had a black girlfriend.

My girlfriend of eight years is black.

oberynshead ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:37:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That God exists

godisgrate ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:37:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

nenealert ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:46:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That mouse traps don't actually catch the mouse by the tail so that my dad can let them go in the "wild." Learned the truth older than I would like to admit.

distortum ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:54:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:56:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

Cal1gula ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:57:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity.

lostamerican123 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:01:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

Darko9989 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:04:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

majorchamp ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:04:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion, but it has been eye opening and freeing

tonedeath ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:04:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mormonism.

Seemoris ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:04:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity

celestialcatharsis ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:05:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

jawasan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:06:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's ok to run with scissors if someone's tie gets caught in a combine.

UncleGeorge ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:06:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Portion control. They fucking sucked at it.

Ophiopogon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:07:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that i'm not worthy of attention, love and affection

ryan6500 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:08:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

moonstomper88 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:09:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents were Jehovah's Witnesses so...pretty much everything.

Iwishiknewwhatiknew ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:09:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't pee in the pool.

a_new_day_with_rain ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:10:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That crap about not eating 30 mins before swimming or you will drown. Grown man now, eat cheeseburger, go swimming, never drown.

endorphin14 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:11:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Existence of god.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:11:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not to believe anything you don't see eith your eyes.

To be fair it's a pretty good logical tool for a child, but once I started learning physics that's when I realised things can exist beyond our detection.

TheKate_est ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:13:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just because someone's different doesn't mean they're wrong, and not everything is a personal attack.

OrganicDozer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:13:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to be a Jehovahs Witness. Fuck that shit. sorry Mom

BeeCJohnson ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:15:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I don't have to have thirds and fourths until all the food is gone.

Also to not make enough food to even allow for seconds.

USS_Leonidas ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:15:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

overcloseness ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:16:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

sargag ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:19:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Catholicism

A_The_Ist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:21:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Black people aren't awful

abruce123412 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:11:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So you unlearned acceptance?

jrobinabox ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:21:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To finish all of your food at the dinner table.

Seriously, just put it in a Ziploc and eat tomorrow.

Prophet105 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:21:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It was okay to see each other naked

SoullyFriend ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:24:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That God is real.

KronosNCC1701 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:25:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My political and religious views are now totally the opposite of how I was raised - so there's that.

sohappyred ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:25:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being Australian and my parents being born just after WW2, I had to unlearn racism...

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:27:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

MatthewLSWong ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:28:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was small, my dad (being a slight control freak) always said 'Don't talk back to me, you disrespectful son, and just shouts at me whenever I try to talk anymore, making me cry) when I was trying to point out something that he wrongly accused me of doing. Thanks to that, in situations where I have to speak up for myself, I feel very vulnerable, as I always think that others will bash on me. Also, I now have anger breakouts whenever someone accuses me wrongly. (That level of anger that shouting is not enough. You need to physically destroy things just to calm down a little bit. Ugh. Thanks dad.)

abruce123412 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:07:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Andrew?

Mostlikelylurking ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:29:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That friends are bad and will lead you astray, only family is worth your time, and will be true to you.

My mom is a piece of work, I feel like that is one of the lighter things she's done, but honestly there are worse parents and I turned out alright by separating my self from her.

claque ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:29:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Catholicism

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:30:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

1 Word: Mormonism.

coffeenica ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:31:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That if I iron clothing and then open the refrigerator I will die from the dramatic temperature change to my body. Rule was you had to wait a couple of hours before opening the fridge.

arkhamcreedsolid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:33:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

.....da fuk. That's amazing! X) sure they weren't just trying to keep you from eating too often?

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:33:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jebus

FriskyFisky91 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:36:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

joblagz2 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:37:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

religion

Mocorn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:38:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Let's see.

  • Watermelons grow on trees like grapes.
  • Spaghettis are harvested from water by hand and hung up to dry.
  • When demons cross into our realm it sounds like glass being ground between glass panes and your mouth tastes metallic.
  • If you try hard enough you can actually make things move with your mind (So many headaches).
  • There is no need to pay attention in school, none of that matters.
  • In my dad's desk there are blueprints to a spaceship. (Actually true, not sure if functional).
  • NASA are idiots.
  • To not get tired when running, picture a green skeleton running in front of you and simply follow it.
  • Don't use words when speaking to a horse, be silent and focus on emotions and it will hear you.
  • "There is no need for mom to learn of this". (Often actually highly needed as it turns out).
  • The sun never sets, it just goes for a spin (Actually true but mystifying to hear at seven years of age).

There were a couple good ones over the years also though, like "you don't quit something, you start with something else", and "daddy loves you more than anything in the world" :)

abruce123412 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:59:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That green skeleton one killed me lol

I may tell that to my kids for the pure sake of fucking with them

wd3war ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:39:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, that one got me too. I'm wondering why the skeleton has to be green. Like, will it not work if I picture a purple or yellow skeleton? Would a red skeleton just make me angry and more tired?

abruce123412 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:44:48 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

maybe its color sensitive?

astrobrain ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:50:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I live and grew up in a suburb or Birmingham, Alabama. Both of my parents are/were racist. It was t an overt, flyin' the confederate flag-type racism, more like everyday racism. My best friend in kindergarten and first grade was a black kid. My mom said it was because I didn't know better. They casually called some parts of Birmingham "Niggertown". The way they talked to their friends about people who weren't white. Anyone Asian was a Jap. My dad's name for Asians was "Slant-Eyed Devils." My point is, they didn't mean to teach me to be a racist, but I learned from their example, and by the time I was a young teenager I was pretty racist and didn't even know it. Example: I hated rap music just because black people performed it, but I loved the Beastie Boys and the first cassette I ever bought was Vanilla Ice. And as soon as I found out Loving Colour were black, I stopped liking Cult of Personality, even though it was the most rock and roll thing on the radio at the time. So... Yeah.

Then when I was about 15 my older sister started dating a white guy with dreadlocks. He listened to Public Enemy. He wore his pants low and liked the Oakland A's. First time I spent more than fifteen minutes around him, I asked why he liked that nigger shit. He told me it was wrong of me to say that word. He told me I was being racist. By saying that to me, he changed me. I truly, honestly, wasn't aware that I was being racist. I wasn't aware that some words could hurt like that. I was a fucking white kid from the suburbs of city with a pretty shitty history of racial abuse. I should have been aware, but the culture was so pervasive I wasn't. It took someone actually telling me that that type of behavior is wrong for me to understand I had been an asshole.

So, yeah. My folks weren't trying to teach me to be a racist, but that's how it ended up because of their actions. Now I'm trying to get my mom to think differently. Her best friend is her black next door neighbor. They share a garden.

ButtsexEurope ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:54:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That porn is bad.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:55:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't really have to worry about being lynched by white people.

abelkain ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:56:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That sharp knifes is more dangerous than dull knifes. Using dull knifes will give you worse wounds, because (1) you will have to apply more pressure on the the blade. (2) the dull edge will tear up your skin instead of giving it a clear cut, and (3) you have less control with a dull blade when you are slicing, cutting etc. Thanks for all the badass scars, mom..

nuclear_coffee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:57:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

DONT HOARD SO MANY PLASTIC BAGS FOR NO REASON.

thecaptainofgoats ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:58:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know I am a little late. But I grew up thinking that a "sneeze" was called a "bleshyuo". (Like fleshyou) Because whenever I sneezed (a bleshyuo) they said bless you. They thought it was funny and never corrected me. It wasn't until I was 16 that I figured it out and had to completely change the way I thought about it.

I still remember saying to friends "that was a big bleshyuo" or "sorry for bleshyouing so loud".

Embarrassing.

SuperKirbyFan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:00:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bees & Wasps can't see you if you stand perfectly still.

taipwnsu ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:02:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a young adult, I'm still working on unlearning this one... Whenever I want something, something isn't going my way, or I feel like it might not, I start tearing up or full out crying because I was taught as a kid that if I cry, I get my way.

There was a tough situation at work a few months ago where my non-direct supervisor, but the only other person in my department, accepted another job offer. I sat down in my supervisor's office to explain that I really cannot do the work of both my job and her's and had to preface the conversation with "I may start choking up, I'm completely fine, I just feel a bit stressed out with the situation." Luckily, I'm young and my supervisor was understanding that the situation was new for me but I really have to work on unlearning that behavior.

PSA: Don't give your kids what they want after they start crying. It creates major issues for them as they grow up.

ianhartt2 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:02:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That marijuana was bad. Shame, shame, shame.

theoryofdoom ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:02:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That being gay was sinful, wrong, and that basically if you were a boy and wanted to kiss other boys you were going to be damned to hell for all of eternity.

ScaryHobo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:02:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This many be too late for anyone to see it, but thank you to everyone who has taken the time to post comments in this thread. A number of them touched on my own issues and it was quite cathartic and validating. It made me feel a little more okay.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:03:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

during my awkward sit down talk about sex we all had i had some questions like what this means and how does that work. long story short i was told a rim job was a blowjob with just the head, thank god porn hub was there for me to correct that misconception.

abruce123412 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:03:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dont talk to strangers

Strangers are nice, and how else do you meet people?

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:04:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I was only ever allowed 1 hour of gaming a day... Maybe... Even then sometimes not a full hour.

toasterturtle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:04:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That everyone is out to get you, and that the world is an evil place. Everyone is a bad guy.

My mom had that mantra so ingrained in my brain since birth that it took me until nearly halfway through high school to realize that no, people aren't just trying to talk with me in order to take advantage of me in one way or another. I missed out on a lot of opportunities and friendships growing up. Even when I was a little girl I would go sprinting the other way when anyone tried to interact with me.

Sigh. At least I eventually realized that's not a good way to think.

Chary23 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:04:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to unlearn the fact that my mother insisted "It's okay to miss payments or pay bills late, you will eventually pay them anyway"

sejisoylam ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:04:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you aren't constantly on the edge of poverty and homelessness. My mother was always worried about money, and would come home drunk after a bad day at work and tell me she was going to be fired and that we would have nowhere to live (none of which was ever true). Medical bills would come in the mail and be ignored, nothing more than the minimum balance was ever paid on anything, and everything was a luxury (except bar drinks of course). We'd get our water cut off so often that she got a tool to turn it back on until we could pay, even though she had the money to pay it in the first place. I grew up and earned she made more than my spouse and I did, she was just shitty with money and blew it all on booze.

My husband retaught me how money works, and I will be forever grateful. He showed me how to live at our means and how wonderful it feels to just be able to pay a bill as soon as you get it and not have to worry about late fees and disconnections. I'll never have to take an ice-cold shower or shiver in a freezing house because somebody forgot to pay the gas bill ever again.

FlyAwayPanda ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:04:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
  • "You can't just wear your pajamas all day."
  • "A malt is just ice cream and milk mixed into a cup."
  • "All meat must be cooked well done so you don't get sick."
  • "You must drink eight glasses of water everyday even if you don't feel thirsty."
  • "Harry Potter is of the Devil."

-my mother

Joobidoob ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:05:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That masturbation was a mortal sin and essentially self rape. I still feel a little guilty half the time i rub one out.

Tobba81 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:06:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dad in the 80's: "You need to get a little sunburn going before you apply sunscreen, to get a good deep brown colour. Sunburn also helps against acne."

WatercupNewborn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:21:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus Christ that's just so wrong.

goldmockingjay ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:07:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Respect is earned not implied

firechar-kurai ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:09:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That my face would stick a certain way if I kept making faces

HeavyOnTheHit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:11:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

OMG like everything.

-Religion: they were fanatics; loony ones at that. Speaking in tongues, laying hands, burning books and toys viewed by the wider religious community as sinful such as Pokemon etc.

-Parenting: they were both abusive, psychologically and physically, as well as emotionally manipulative.

-Exercise / Nutrition: dad got me into swimming because he did when he was younger. Besides that, I wasn't allowed to lift weights because "it's bad for your posture" and diet was ~ 70/20/10 carb/protein/vegetable.

-Budgeting: gave over 10% of their money to church, wasted the rest on junk food and takeaways.

-Social skills: Dad had no friends really, and didn't introduce me to guys he knew because they were sinners and he didn't want me being influenced by them. Many of my would-be friends were written off for the same reason. Mum dragged me round old-lady groups and church stuff. I've always found it easy to talk with older women, but she was also a bitch to her friends and selfish when it came to favours - always asking, never giving.

I'm sure there's more but I'll just end up winding myself up dwelling on it. I'm 25 now and have spent the past 7 years since they moved away teaching myself how to be an adult. I'm nowhere near done, but have made great progress working on my anger issues and social anxiety.

Jembreeze ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:19:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This whole thread is making me mad. But not because everyone's stories, because I hate that other kids were all feeling this abuse the very same way as me and now I don't know how to deal with that kind of conditioned emotion. Jeez I need a therapist now I think...

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everyone needs a therapist. We all have shit to deal with and stuff that we can improve upon.

placervillian97 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:21:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That there's a dude up in the sky with a big white beard that watches me 24/7 and has the power to send me to heaven or hell.

Slayer9x99 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:22:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

Mgmegadog ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:29:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion, along with the lesser stories my parents told me as a child (Santa, Easter bunny, etc...)

For me, the only difference between the two is that only one of them I stopped believing before my parents.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:33:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That if you're not Muslim, you're going to hell. Don't worry guys, you're not going to hell. I think.

VladmirShootin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:33:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not to be controversial, but Christianity. It's hard to unlearn a religion you grow up with for 18 years.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:33:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God is real.

Certain financial things.

Deathviame ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:37:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Racism. I'm from the South. You know. The South that's more underwater now than it was a week ago.

Darkexistenceorlight ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:37:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Awww the south so many willing to kill for Jesus

SanchoPandas ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:38:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Saying "sorry" to everyone.

Kerora ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:38:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you need to eat meat to be healthy. That you have have good grades to be successful in life. That God exists.

Gilarax ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:42:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That love and support aren't conditional. I grew up in a household where if you were liked, you got stuff. If you were not liked as much, you didn't get anything. If you ratted out the right sibling you got love; the wrong sibling and you got punished. It totally fucked up my perception of what love was. I pretty much have never really trusted anyone because being loved meant that you could be stabbed in the back by a family member.

Anyways my wife has showed me what real love is actually like. I've learned that I can trust her without having to worry that she will stab me in the back.

RaynerJ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:42:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus.

a_toy_soldier ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:45:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My accent.

I used to speak into the mirror until I didnt have one.

My parents speak Redneck or Country.

kellypg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:49:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The first thing i thought of when i read this was the "poop plug to keep satan from turning you gay" story.

gnomeChomskii ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:50:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I like to blame this on being a new englander, but my parents had some bad manners they passed on to me such as not offering house guests drinks, things like that. Just little things that are considerate. When I was a kid my mom used to say to me "do you want a sandwich? -sure, everything's right there in the fridge." Not joking either. Haha. Anyway, my wife is from Georgia and you'd better believe that kind of thing doesn't fly in her mind. It's one of the many things I appreciate a lot about southern culture. I've unlearned a lot.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:51:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity. I realized about 4-5 years ago that I was a total piece of shit to anybody that was gay.

Dirayiou ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:52:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Always respect your elders.

And I don't mean like when you're a kid and get in trouble

I mean I'm 20 years old, don't even live with my mother and I still get told this xD

Respect is EARNED not demanded.

NJNeal17 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:54:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I can't talk about my feelings with those close to me. I should clarify that they never said these things bc they just raised me and my brother that way.

They truly taught by actions and not words.

switchcrit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:54:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No such things as friends. My mom always said that there are no such things as friends I grew up in a pretty isolated area that had no kids around. The only ones I'd encounter were at school. By the time I shifted to a place where there were kids around. It was pretty much ingrained in me that there are no such things as friends. So I didn't make any.

I'm in college now. I all changed when I got away from home and had literally noone to trust. It took me a lot to trust people and open up. I

Now I've got a bunch of really good people who have my back

Moral of the story: make friends.

Nekohime-san ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:06:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that all believe is god is good, fuck that shit..

and i became atheist.

CharityRose ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:20:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To actually tell the doctors all your symptoms. My mom was semi abusive and very self centered. She would threaten to ground me if I explained all my symptoms to doctor because she didn't want to deal with it if they found something. She didn't do it with simple things like strep throat, but would make sure to down play to doctors things like my migraines, seizures, mental illness, constant stomach pains, eat. It's taken me a couple years to get over the mental block of wanting to hide things from doctors.

bush84 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:27:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to finish what I am saying.

I remember being at my first job interview after leaving school, I felt intimidated because the guy was just staring at me as I spoke.

Then it started to happen at work, just staring right through me.

I later realised that they were actually listening to me and I didn't know how to finish making my point because my family would always interrupt!

They still do it now (not just to me, to everyone) but I call them up on it. they just look at me like I have 3 heads!

6lue6ird ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:37:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One of my biggest pet peeves is being interrupted, and this is why! I tend to expect it... people have no manners these days.

bush84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:56:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Does this sound familiar to you... You are talking and someone interrupts. You keep talking, despite the interruption and you get accused of butting in?

6lue6ird ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes!!! People often expect me to stop, and I am clueless as to why they stop listening

bush84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe we are just boring mate ;-)

6lue6ird ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:30 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haha! I know I have a problem finishing my sentences, it is something I am trying to work on. I never have been an especially good storyteller

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:29:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

Hhalloush ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:29:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Islam.

Kdegeek ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:29:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nearly everything.

I grew up in an extremely religious fundamentalist household.

I had to unlearn: An automatic obedience towards every form of authority, religion, constant self doubt; sex negativity & a chronic fear/distrust of the outside world.

Not to mention a constant terror of impending divine retribution. Which I suppose most would assume to fall under the religion category, however I unlearned that before I was able to unload religion in general.

DingDingDensha ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:30:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it was ok to talk shit about everyone behind their backs, friend or foe. Not taught, but learned by example. I grew up thinking that was normal because there were no other normal people around me to model better behavior. Took me a while to realize that was why this parent never had any friends.

AerospaceGroupie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:43:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

Jayken ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:44:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hoarding plastic bags. When I say hoard, I mean it. We were pretty poor growing up, so the bags were used for a variety of things, trash bags, lunchbox, suitcase, ect. However, once I was on my own, I could afford those things and didn't have much use for the bags. But I continued to save them like cat photos. Far too many, for no real reason. As a result, I ended up filling a pantry and all the cupboard space in my kitchen. I eventually recycled them after my wife, then girlfriend, sat me down and told me it wasn't normal to hang on to that many bags.

Chel_of_the_sea ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:50:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to - have to - unlearn a lot of judgement. I come from a conservative, fairly well off middle-class family. They, and I by extension, tend to dismiss a lot of problems as being not that big a deal. I've gotten a lot better about this over the years, but once in a while I have to remind myself to walk in others' shoes for a moment.

AngusKhan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:51:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

FacePunchThor ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:51:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Those evil bastards taught me to put the toilet paper roll facing the wall. I know. It's absolutely sucking. You'll all be glad to hear that after years of therapy I can now place the toilet paper roll facing out without hyperventilating

Zagaroth ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:02:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

unless you have cats. Then the roll needs to facing the wall to prevent kitties from tearing it all off by spinning the roll.

FacePunchThor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:09:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like a cat could still pull it all off if you left a bit too much hanging off, but I only have a snake so I think I'm good

secret_tiger101 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:54:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Never water plants on a sunny day because the sun will be focussed through the water and burn the plants.

Calius1337 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:00:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This!

I don't know how or where this myth started, but even my grandmother who lived in South America told me about it, and I was born and have lived my entire life in Germany. This seems to be a world wide myth...

Perrythepervypus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:56:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm not a good person and I'm not worthy of a good life. This has seriously fucked me up as an adult and I've had to do a lot of work on myself to heal from the damage my parents caused me.

marsmermaids ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:06:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mum used to believe the old "girls are just naturally better at english and boys are better at math."

The second I didn't understand something I put it down to that and it was all downhill from there.

Also racism. Though she's much better now.

Raven_in_the_storm ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:12:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you don't have to save on everything, especially water.

My parents were kinda obsessed with saving water, not because of ecology, but to save money. When I was a child, we all used to bathe in the same water, like in middle ages, and then my mother used to take a basin and pour the very same water to washing machine... Our clothes were not properly washed with this dirty water and one day one of my friends told me that my clothes stink.

I learned how to properly use washing machine when I moved out at 18. Before I did, I used to take a bath in secret where my parents were not home.

halikarnaz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:17:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My father (still) believes that drinking water right after drinking milk causes nausea. I've always waited around an hour or two before drinking water if I had some milk until my twenties.

lexikelly ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:17:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not about me, but my Korean friends told me that their Korean elders teach them a truckload of bullshit: fan death, women should stay in the kitchen, Japanese are evil, roll a shaken soda bottle gently, dog meat is especially nutritious, working out stops your growth, eating ramen makes you grow boobs, and a bunch of other misconceptions and myths and bullshit.

jones5112 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:23:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

spaistik90 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:24:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

Arctic_Buggie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:24:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought girls urinated from their ass till I was 12

TheCobiSystem ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:33:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad tried to tell me that santa was fake

Mitch1412 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:46:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am still unlearning the fact that you have to take care for yourself, even as a child. And that nobody will help you with anything. I had to start working at the age of 12 because my mother preferred buying beer for my step father. I had to pay for school trips myself. I even had to buy my own tooth paste because my mother and her husband didn't care about clean teeth. I'm 30 years old now and I'm still struggling before I ask somebody for help because I expect people to get annoyed, but it gets easier every day.

sebass1223 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:49:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Two things that you don't need to raise your voice to get a point across. Growing up it was always a screaming match to try and win a conversation now a days I try to avoid confrontation specifically with a SO just out of fear of raising my voice when not necessary.

Also there's not an underlying meaning to everything. My mothers past relationships lead her to believe that there's was always something suspicious going on in someone's story. Which in turn used to make me over think things especially in a relationship over thinking what your SO is or isn't doing can be toxic for both parties.

kimpv ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:54:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

being in a religious cult

ehsteve23 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:05:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In my house we never had locks on any inside door, including bathrooms. It was understood that if the door was open it was available and if it's closed it's occupied. As a result I never got into the habit of locking bathrooms behind me. I was walked in on many times as a kid

throwaway09563 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:06:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eat everything on your plate.

zaldronthesage ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:09:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to unlearn god, and how that magically is the answer to friggen everything.

surreynerd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:15:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That there is a God. I'm not saying that as a way to attack people's faith, but for myself it created a ton of self-doubt as I did not believe the stuff being taught at my Church. I still remember going to a Youth Conference at a local Community Hall and a speaker trying to debunk evolution and just wondering if I'm the only one who is going WTF. Worse was my fear I was going to hell, and it didn't help when my Older brother when he learned of my doubt confirming my damnation.

Now I'm a semi-functioning Agnostic. I just wish someone had said along the way that your not a horrible person if you do not believe.

HopeInthorns ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:16:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I could say no, and mean it. Growing up, my parents were wonderful, but I was taught I always had to agree or obey.

0bIivionn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:21:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the moment I step out of the house alone I would be kidnapped or mugged or murdered, that I should never speak to anyone I don't know because all they want to do is find out where I live so they could break in and steal something. Like even if it's a classmate of mine that I know, but am not really friends with, I shouldn't go anywhere with him because he will just lead me to some kind of gang. Oh and that I am never allowed to disagree with someone older than me or a woman, as a guy it is my job to do whatever a girl says and that I should never question them

liver_stream ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:23:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism, it's not normal and not everyone is racist. Also it's not acceptable, even though it happens to me so I should know better to not pass it on.

Heatherkakes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:25:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My stepmother drilled into my sister, brother and I to never put out a grease fire with water, in fact, grab flour. Flour will put out a grease fire.

Until I started a grease fire when I was 19, and grabbed the ten pound jar of flour sitting next to the stove to put it out. She denied having ever told us that, but both of my siblings remember it. She got so persistent about having not told us that, that I finally just said that I had learned it at a job in a kitchen that I had at the time. (Actually, they had a fire suppression system, and a special fire extinguisher.)

When my dad got home, he took one look at the kitchen and asked what the hell was I thinking. He said when he was training for the military, he was taught to aim for grain silos, because the grain dust was incendiary, and would go off like a bomb. Do you know what else grain dust is called? Flour.

I pretty much set off a bomb in my kitchen on accident, based on bad advice.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:43:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I grew up hearing you should put flour on grease fires too! When I actually had a grease fire I was too shocked to do anything other than set the flaming pan outside til it finished burning... I'm so glad I didn't grab the flour now.

Heatherkakes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wonder why so many people think its a good idea? I looked it up shortly afterwards, and baking soda puts out a grease fire, and fire extinguishers, but not to use flour. Also, not many people have that amount of baking soda available to them??? We usually did because its super cheap when bought in bulk at Sams Club, but that's not normal.

jaspinall1983 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:34:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Clapping after taking a dump.

Sapphurion ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:44:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Using the front brake on the bike not gonna throw you over the handlebar.

sixfigurekid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:22:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

On a motorcycle it can wreck you, or if you're going fast down a steep hill on a mountain bike.

newbts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:36:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But that's true, even if it's more of a blanket statement for unskilled child cyclists.

GimikkuPappeto ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:45:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity. I was born in what I like to call a "fake catholic" family, as in they've never touched a bible in their lives, are more protestant than catholic but don't even realise it, and are really only christians because it was drilled in their brains since childhood and they never questioned it, unlike me.

When I got into my teenage years, I started questioning it all, and it just made no sense to me believing such dogmas, so I abandoned it.

Nothing against (most) christians or against religions. Blindly believing in stuff just isn't my thing.

imalwaysdumb ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:54:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That they didn't have a favorite child. ......... It wasn't me.

ashbak1987 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:57:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to unlearn being a Jehovah's witnesses

bridger713 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:58:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

SpanglyJoker ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:58:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ignore something and it'll go away

MeeperMogle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:08:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Only just starting to wrap my head around the concept that my opinion and thoughts about who I am and what I do actually matter.

Not as much a "life lesson" that my parents actively told me, they (especially my father) really ingrained in me that it's more important what others think of me than what I think of myself. Have been consistently self-sacrificing, depressed and missed out on countless things in life all through growing up because of some fucked-up presumption they (naturally inadvertently) created that it doesn't matter if I'm fine, as long as others aren't bothered by me not being fine.

Still have no idea who I want to be, or even who I am... But at least, at 23, starting to think about it.

It's going "meh". Seeing as the nature of this has for over a decade been "nobody gives a shit about me anyway" it's likely going to take a while to trod on and pursue this by myself.

Fuzzlechan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:10:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents were the same way. I'm 22, and just starting to be 'selfish' sometimes. AKA put my needs over other people's wants. Hell, I'll even put my wants over someone else's wants, though very, very, very rarely.

Good luck with figuring yourself out, and remember that you're not alone. :D

SimpllJak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:15:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nail on the head mate. Same fucking shit with me

MAXIMUM_PC ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:28:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That adults know better and are rational people.

bacon_economist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:29:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

oh boy, racism. I actually get stressed out by how my mom believes she is justified in hating brown people. I grew up thinking brown people loved terrorism and not to eat food they touch :(

endlezzdrift ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:12:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow, you made it out though.

BigBootyBayley ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:34:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That porn is wrong.

Well it was my mum that said that. My dad showed me the world of everything you ever wanted to see in porn lmao.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:36:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do you find this joke funny?

Australians don't have sex.

Australians mate.

Alch1e ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:37:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't have to apologize for existing. I didn't realize I was doing it for a very long time.

szantoszabolcs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:40:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They told me that the teachers always right, I had to obey everything that a teacher said. Now I know that this is a piece of shit

Ikenora ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:40:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Homophobia and racism.

uncreativeusername33 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:41:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That religion is the most important thing in life and that it should be put above everything else.. That it's even more important than their own daughter's happiness. To never question religion or doubt it, that's it's only true thing. :(

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 11:42:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe it is more important than you. Maybe you're just the most unimportant person to ever live. I wonder?

WadeQuenya ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:42:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm going to be the edgy guy who says religion

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:54:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Had to re-sort by "new" to find this and avoid repost. Really hope people take a critical look once they decide their own Sunday morning. Crimes against human decency are committed daily in the name of Religion. In my home Christianity was a tool of repression.

WadeQuenya ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:20:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had the same experience

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:42:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Two things, one perhaps worse than the other. I'm have a diagnosis of Asperger's Syndrome, so throughout my childhood I was always told I couldn't. For the most part she would defend me and tell others that I would do whatever I put my mind to (and she's right, hot goddamn was a determined little shit). However, behind closed doors, she maintained an antiquated system of belief wherein I appeared to be completely incompetent - don't leave me alone in the kitchen, I'll scold my skin clean off type-of-shit. It wasn't a problem when I was younger since I wouldn't be left in the situations she perpetuated as being "bad" for me.

This neatly ties into the second thing. We were a family on benefits, so money was always a concern for her. When it came to me going to University I decided I wanted to go as far away as I could - I was running away, I won't deny it, but I did make my choices based on what would give me the best degree. At this point she changed her tune radically - I was incapable, I would never survive on my own, I wasn't smart enough to get a degree. This abuse lasted for 6 months, and it was received in "sit down discussions" about my "educational choices" every other day. What it really amounted to was that, by leaving, she was losing money. She was scared, I get that, but it was abusive. When I eventually finished (1st class Computer Science with Games Development) and I came home, it continued. Everything was my fault, I was an inconsiderate and disrespectful child etc etc. She went as far as attempting to blackmail me, as well as making threats of kicking me out for 'not pulling my weight' (I more than pulled my weight on weekends, in view of not being home during the week). All of this while I was pumping half of my pay packet into the home to support her and my siblings.

In January of this year I left the family home and moved close to work. She immediately disowned me. I've not looked back since. I still ask my superiors at work to completely predefine the tasks they ask me to do, because I'm scared of doing one little thing wrong and being called subordinate.

[edit] spelling and grammar, clarifications.

kooknboo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:43:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

That smiling was embarrassing.

Oh, and even if someone fucks me over brutally and without merit - just take it. Especially if it's someone in "authority". Not necessarily the police. Boss. Building inspector. Doctor. Whomever. Avoid even a smidge of conflict at all costs.

Thorion_Covenant ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:46:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eating healthy. It turns out that every single meal doesnt need to have bread and meat. That you dont have to eat until you're stuffed or your plate is clean. That drinking soda and Koolaid with every single meal will give you man boobs at 10 years old. Not to mention all the chips and candy I wanted.

At 19 I decided to take my eating habits into my own hands, I dropped just under 100lbs. I also took an interest in cooking as a hobby, which I now share with my mom.

katatonos ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:46:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

newhsaccount ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:48:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Growing up, I got fed a lot of Bud Light "Man Card" crap both from the media and from my dad. I had a lot of screwed up notions about what it meant to be a boy, a man, and male - the hobbies and attitudes that I had didn't mesh with the hobbies and attitudes that I thought were right and "masculine". It took a long hard look at transitioning (which I was also pretty sure wasn't right for me) before I realized that it wasn't my masculinity wasn't the problem, it was how I viewed my masculinity.

edit to add: my dad was wrong, but he wasn't malicious.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:49:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

biogirl52 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:51:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
  • Tampons are evil
  • Saying "yes" to everything
  • That there is a God
Lord_Ironsbane ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:00:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not to question everything

As with most religious parents I wasn't taught to question everything, sure, it's not something that a really young child should be taught, but as I got older that is something really important, that I shouldn't take anything as I have been told, that I have to work things out for myself

I am an Atheist now, so I guess I can see why they didn't teach me that, turns out thinking for yourself is like cancer for religion

Chaniatreides95 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:09:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that depression =/= being lazy

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:17:13 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

=/= means is not the same as, it reads like you're saying "my parents taught me depression isn't the same thing as being lazy, I need to unlearn that"

Chaniatreides95 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:22:08 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

oh I guess I answered that unclearly. that's the lesson I had to teach myself, after they made me think that they were the same

pablosanchez24 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:10:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

Bradford_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:11:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jeans don't need to be washed after every use. Seriously, it's like my mom enjoys doing laundry or something.

saltedwarlock ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:12:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

my parents are alright, but ooh boy my friend's were not.

mental illness? no big deal, you don't need to see a doctor.

self harm? you're just doing that for attention

that one friend who talked you out of suicide multiple times? he's weird because he has a chronic illness, never talk to him again

oh, you don't like running track? too bad, we want you to.

you want a phone? oh we'll get you the shittiest one, while your sister who's about half your age gets an iPhone 6!

oh, you have friends who are not straight? lets make fun of them all the time!

oh it turns out you're not straight? let's send you to a Christian conversion camp!

Zwizzor ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:16:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pooping for too long while pushing too much will push your bowels out.

HarambeTheHeroic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:24:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That sex isn't always done blindfolded.

SupremeSarah ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:24:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They taught me I had to always share everything, especially if I was eating something. Eating a packet of crisps? Share! Got sweets? Share! It's even more annoying these days now I have a bit of money to buy myself something as a treat. As soon as they know I've got something, they HAVE to have some of it 'because it's fair'. If I argue that I bought it for purely myself as a treat then I'm selfish and that they will remember that for next time they buy anything. So what I did was stop helping myself to food they didn't offer me, including breakfast/lunch/dinner. They called me silly and I responded 'well YOU bought it, so what right do I have to just help myself to it?' Eventually they got fed up of me starving myself and making me my food everyday and so they let me do it myself. The food strike only lasted three days, but at least now they sort of get the point and allow me to keep what I buy to myself if I wish. I know some of you think this was petty, but with my parents you have to be petty to make a goddamn point to them.

TL;DR Parents told me to always share everything. I buy myself a treat with own money and not share. Suddenly the new rule is 'I bought it, you can't help yourself to it' and so starved myself unless they offered it.

Edit: spelling error.

ChoptankLive ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:47:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A good lesson in capitalism. And a warning about socialism all rolled into one.

SupremeSarah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:59:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's a good way of putting it.

Braytone ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:30:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That buying cheap stuff doesn't always equate to a better deal. My parents refused to dress me in quality clothing for the longest time. Nothing I owned really held up while I was in college and I didn't own a decent button down shirt or slacks until I graduated, started working and bought them myself. Cheap is good, but I realized after some time that I was getting exactly what I was paying for.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:40:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom taught me the following

  1. That you can take people who are related to you for granted. No need to say please thank you or give them personal space and you can borrow their stuff without permission. This includes money in her son's bank account.

  2. People won't do anything for you if you ask nicely. Scold and shout at them before they have a chance to fuck up.

  3. In arguments the person who speaks last and shouts loudest is the winner. Don't change your opinion unless some can consistently shout louder than you. If someone disagrees with you it is an act of war and you need to immediately shout at them without thinking about whether their opinion is valid. If their opinion is valid, you can take their position at a later time and claim it was always your position, and forget all previous arguments.

  4. Domestic help needs to be ordered and commanded like you own them. Please and thank yous have no place in your interaction with servants.

  5. That my mom's treatment of everyone (family, friends and the help) is much better than everyone else's, because she genuinely cares about them, and screaming is a means of expressing love.

  6. That it is absolutely forbidden for kids to lie, but grown ups can do it at will.

She also taught me a bung of prize winning parenting skills. Maybe more later...

CoolUsername1139 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:44:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Okay, I'm new to Reddit, so this is the first comment section I've seen that's a "melting pot" of comments, and I'm honestly so giddy right now!

DoorToSummer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:47:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to do my hair. My mother and sisters' hair is thin and ranges from straight to mildly curly. Mine is thick and much more curly. And frizzy. If you do it like my mom does hers, IE blowdry it and power through tangles from the top town, anything near shoulder length legitimately begins to resemble an Afro. Now, there's millions of people in the world who can make that look good, but as a shy blonde white girl, I was not one of them, so I just put it in a ponytail all the time and hated my hair. I think I was approaching my senior year of high school before I realized that if I brushed it while it was still wet and then let it air-dry, it would turn into (relatively) smooth curls. I still wear it up in a ponytail 90% of the time because that's what I'm used to, but at least now I know what to do with it for more-than-casual occasions.

silviastark ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:47:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that when i bathe after i eat my belly will grow in size

jarredkh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:48:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"you can be whatever you want to be when you grow up" and led me to believe there was jobs for everything too.

madamunkey ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:48:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I could cry instead of trying to rationalize everything. It wasnt intended, It was so at a young age, instead of crying i would explain why i was upset to them, so it could be solved easier.. well that inadvertently lead to me becoming numb to sadness... my mother didnt think it was a big deal.. until I didnt cry.. or show emotion at my grandmother's (her mothers') funeral... it was fucked up but i just couldnt cry, couldnt bring myself to let it out.. its been 7 years and i still havnt cried more than three times since

triggermajik ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:50:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As weird as this sounds, how to get a girlfriend. "Just letting it happen" isn't really working for me

DankoJones84 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:52:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

My mom taught me that pants are supposed to be worn as high as possible. If my belly button was visible above my pants, I was sagging and this was entirely unacceptable. Basically if I didn't have a constant wedgie and my balls weren't crammed up against me so tightly that it was painful, I was fucking up in her eyes. I guess this is what her parents taught her. I told her that literally no one else I'd ever seen wore their pants that high. She insisted that she was right and the rest of the world was wrong. After years of constant discomfort and being laughed at for looking like a complete dork, I discovered that I could wear my pants like a normal person and nothing bad would happen.

NovaInitia ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:57:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you only got wealthy due to luck or being born into it. That there is a lack of material wealth in this world that you are always on the brink of being broke, homeless and starving.

Poddywank ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:59:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to reach the bottom of a bottle.

timm1blr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:00:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That they're human too. (That's the lesson I learnt)

There's been a couple times where my mother has had a go at my brother for things that were none of her business. It's taken a considerable amount of effort to tell her she was wrong over what she'd said, and that she needs to apologise to her son. Just cause she's my mother doesn't mean she is right.

Ravingsmads ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:01:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"If someone bullies you, tell us and the teacher"

Been a fucking disaster til I said fuck it and took it into my own hands, never been bullied all of school after that.

JeffBuckleysGhost ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:02:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad put it in my head that as long as you were not engaged or married, being faithful didn't really matter. He used to say "no ring, no problem" This did not help me growing up, haha. No regrets though. I have figured things out since then.

Jst_curious ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:03:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I didn't eat 'Tiger'* for breakfast. I was around 7 and we had a quick introduction as we started the year with a new class, every student had to come up to the front and explain what they do on a normal day. I told them I had 'Tiger' for breakfast and being the only asian kid around - everyone just believed me and never questioned it. Oh, how it alienated me.

*Parent's called it 'Tiger' because there was Tony the Tiger as the mascot for the Kellog's frosted flakes Brand.

vivadixiesubmarine ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:06:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To never quit anything that you start.

I see the value in persistence, but after five years of being miserable at my teaching job, I've decided this will be my last year. I'm so psyched.

Buttssttallion ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:07:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was nine I was starting to explore my sexuality just by looking on the internet moslty and my mom caught me and absolutely laid into me and punished for like a month with a bunch of shit that left the feeling that anything that had to do with sex was horrible and it screwed me up towards women so now 10+ years later i cant even speak to a women without feeling bad or anxious so yeah thats fun

Desirai ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:08:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

my grandparents raised me on a tight leash and taught me to be scared of everything. I was terrified of being out in public, breaking the rules, doing something "dangerous", etc. It wasn't until I bought myself a car and moved out (age 20) that I realized...... yes the world can be scary, but I don't have to be scared every single time I leave the house.

Old habits die hard and I'm 28 and find myself sometimes wondering, "will this be dangerous?" and then I'm like NO... I'm just going to the fucking store.

spyker54 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:08:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Eat everything on your plate"

While i'm not blind to the fact that it sounds like a 'first-world problem'; over time it resulted in certain ... compulsive behavior. Basically if i saw food on my plate (or even someone else's plate) i would feel the need to eat it, even if i wasn't hungry anymore.

For the record, i'm not angry at my parents for this. They were doing their best and wanted me to grow up big and strong; not to mention i was their test first child. They didn't use this method with my younger brother.

IAmGuise ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:09:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That if something goes wrong, you must blame other people immediately.

One Thanksgiving my dad backed into my sisters car on the way out of the driveway. He immediately blamed my sister for "parking weird".

HouseTully ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:12:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I was a size medium. I don't know if they were in denial about me being a small dude but I'm and extra small. I looked like a kid trying to play grown up until I left for college.

BatterseaPS ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:15:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nerds will grow up to drive sports cars and bullies will flip burgers.

SnowedEarth ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:15:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I never had an eating disorder. My mother is just a terrible cook.

Prime_1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:16:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That if you are loyal and work hard for your company they will be loyal to you.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:16:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Creationism.

revolvingdoo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:17:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Traits of a personality disorder. My mother has borderline and i thought it was perfectly normal to compulsively lie and freak out whenever a problem occured. Theres a lot of other shit too. until i finally got out at 20. Its amazing how fast life went from extremely fucked up to perfectly normal by removing myself from the situation. I have had to move back to my parents for 2 months after splitting with the girl i lived with until i got back on my feet and nothing has changed. Its amazing how quickly people like that can get inside your head again though.

Jiujitsupeaches ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:23:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity

Onedominicaninindy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:24:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Where to begin?

  • That we are NOT BLACK even though we are all Afro Latinos.
  • that my curly hair was bad so it had to be subjected to chemicals repeatedly and extreme heat to get it as straight as possible. ( now as an adult, my hair is ruined... Totally damaged, no volume, thin, brittle )
  • that Pentecostal is the only true religion. (Catholics are fakes, everyone else is going to hell)
  • black people are lazy, Mexicans can't stop breeding because they're stupid and can't inform themselves about contraceptives.
  • pick a career that makes a lot of $$$$ bc money determines how much you matter. ( so I stopped being anyone that mattered when I defiantly decided to become a teacher). ... They still think I'm Crazy for doing that for a living.
  • if you are upset you can't show it because ladies need to be pleasant, nice and friendly at all times.
  • but don't make friends because no one cares about you, your siblings are your only friends.
  • only selfish women don't get married and bear children... Guess I'm selfish af
  • if you fall on hard times it's ok because the great thing about America is that the government will always be willing to support you.
seilskwon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:38:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also raised pentecostal; can confirm copious amounts of unlearning required.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:34:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That my so-called "girly" interest in art would never get me any money. The five hundred I earned in sixth grade sure showed them.

paqmanbiker ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:38:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What are we teaching our kids that they will have to unlearn?

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:42:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Don't trust doctors because they're all crooks so never see one unless it's an emergency (and even then they'll try to swindle you) and you don't need medicine unless, once again, it's an emergency and even then take as little as possible.

I had terrible eyesight all through elementary school but my parents refused to get me glasses because "kids don't need glasses" and clearly eye doctors are out to rip everyone off! Finally in 5th grade after that years annual eye test the principal called my house and basically threatened them into getting me glasses.

I cannot take ibuprofen anymore because my dad made me take too much of it for days on end when I was in severe pain. I told him I wasn't feeling any better after taking the maximum daily dose, he responded that I should never listen to medicine labels and I need to keep swallowing as much Advil as it takes until I feel better... and that's the story of how I got a hole burned in my stomach! Turned out I had a severe concussion so painful that I had to be on bed rest for 2 months.

When I got to college my friends were pretty concerned because, as one of them told me, "you literally don't know what to do when you're sick." I had to learn that taking medicine really does help and doctors aren't out to rip you off, and actually if you go to the doctor regularly you won't have as many medical emergencies. Yes, there are doctors who charge too much and try to sell unnecessary stuff but that doesn't mean you should put your health at risk by never going to one.

Edit: they are NOT anti-vaxxers tho, just to make that clear. They don't trust the medical/pharmaceutical industry but they do believe in science.

nolog ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:43:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not talking to girls.

Well, yeah, I've had a few flings and short period girlfriends, but I'm still struggling hard.

mikeymikeymikey1968 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:47:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's okay to fight with your SO. My Ps never fought, still haven't after almost 50 years. That's because my dad caved to every whim of my mom. The first time I fought with a girlfriend back in college was really confusing, but exhilarating.

Notlikeparis ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:49:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Chess. We spent a lot of time in a caravan with no electricity on family holidays so my mam decided to teach me chess. What she didn't tell me is that she was basically making the rules up, so when I went to uni and decided to play my housemate there was quite the to do. Apparently the "horseman" doesn't go where he wants and the "prawns" aren't invincible. Cue a huge argument, a trip to the library to find a book with the rules (pre-Internet) and me having the piss taken out of me for years afterwards. I fucking hate chess.

Starkerou ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:49:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That people won't like you if you're fat. I figured that out a while ago that people don't care. People won't won't like you cause you're fat. People don't like you cause you're an asshole

And also you have to be prim and proper, thin and pretty, and quiet, not too smart so that boys like you. Took me years to get over it. Am now I'm a relationship with someone that respects me, treats me like an equal and loves me the way I am.

PQ858 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:49:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hatred for the Japanese. My mother was born in Japan during the Korean annexation, she moved back just before the end of WW2. While growing up she would go out of her way to disparage the Japanese, as kids my brother and I knew nothing but hate and contempt for Japanese people in general.

By the time we were adults it slowly became evident that though the Japanese caused many issues back in her day, the people today are not the same people. It took the earthquake and the fallout afterwards for me to really understand. My brother embraced it a little bit differently by marrying a Japanese woman.

keepitdownoptimist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:53:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion or more specifically faith, and that its ok to surrender curiosity or skepticism to the notion that everything's all part of some plan.

meckthemerc ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:55:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That homosexuals aren't something to be afraid or wary of. They're actually pretty fucking awesome and low-key have like the best sense of taste when it comes to well.....anything. And that your masculinity isn't something that can be taken away simply because you (a male) likes feminine thing.

Source: I am a homosexual, and loving every rainbow second of it.

Locasta15 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:55:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to unlearn that getting 99% on a test was alright but it should have been 100%. That it is actually OK to ask for help or show emotions (I'm a guy) and that I shouldn't feel that rising panic that makes me want to curl in a ball and cry every time I argue with someone

After reading a couple of threads like this and browsing /r/raisedbynarcissists I'm fairly sure my childhood wasn't particularly normal. Considering starting counselling because of it.

BertaBlack ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:55:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not to be scared of black people. I wish I was joking.

Orylus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:59:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Boys don't kiss other boys.

DavidG993 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:00:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everyone who didn't graduate college is worthless.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:01:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eating habits.

I now have a healthy diet.

Aside from that they're pretty awesome folks!

roh8880 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:01:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Do what makes you happy."

Well, Dad, doing what made you happy rarely put food on our table! Sometimes you have to work jobs that you don't like or careers that don't "make you happy". I learned the hard way that everyone is responsible for their own happiness and that it doesn't come from external sources. Happiness is pretty much a myth in the sense that something makes you happy. You have to learn to be happy with whatever it is that you do. Nobody, nor nothing, can "make you happy". I get to choose to be happy.

snapparillo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:03:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad inadvertently taught me to never ask or expect help from someone else and that if I couldn't figure out something myself, well then I was a failure. I couldn't ask him for ANYTHING without him acting like I was lazy and asking too much of him because of his own selfishness.

skwirrl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:03:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism. Subtle. Not overtly mean spirited. But still, racism.

ZombieHousefly ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:04:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not everything I do is great and amazing. I am actually flawed and that's okay.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:05:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That yelling and fighting are not "ok" ad long as you make up. My mother's parents were yellers. They passed that down to their kids. My uncle actually blew out his vocal chords decades ago from yelling to viciously. He now sounds like he has chronic laringitis. My mother's way of winning an was to raise her voice over everyone and get nasty. She didn't back down. Ever. To anyone. And I grew up thinking this was normal. Suffice it to say I got in a lot of fights as a kid because I was skinny as a rail with a mouth like a sailor. And I never backed down. So I got pummeled. Often. Then I met my wife; my calm, reserved, calculated and understanding wife who is wonderful and patient and kind. I think I yelled in a fight once when we first moved in together about 5 years ago while we were still dating. I thought it was ok because my parents screamed at each other often and yet stayed together. It pretty much destroyed her to think I could speak to her in such a vicious tone and it snapped me out of it real quick. Sure, we still get into arguments, but I don't scream. I can control my temper, and I remember that this is someone I love. We don't have to yell at each other to prove our points. It changed me as a person all the way around. I don't lose my temper as quickly....Unless I get around my family but even then I am learning to control myself more. There is something about immediate family that reverts me back to old ways. I hate it so much because I know I'm not that person anymore but they still treat me like that.

doghaircut ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:08:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My Chinese parents had two stupid rules based on superstitions:

  1. You can't wash your hair on your birthday, or any close relative's birthday.

  2. You can't celebrate a birthday after the actual birthday.

As you can image, both just caused lots of headaches and complicated things, with absolutely no benefit. Lots of shitty birthday photos, too.

Pantarus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:13:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you graduate, find a job, cling to that job for dear life itself until you retire. If your loyal to them, they'll be loyal to you. If you work hard you'll retire with a pension, benefits, have enough money for a house, a car, and a family vacation every year. Oh! I almost forgot, your wife can be a stay at home mom and raise the children, and only go back to work if she WANTS to when the kids are in high school.

For years I tried that. Employers shuffled me around, gave me shitty raises for exemplary performance, then laid me off when the consultants came.

Now I spend three years at every job. At the three year mark I start looking for my next gig. My parents think I'm crazy, but I've gotten a 30% increase in pay/benefits/vacation time every jump. Screw long term loyalty.

TL/DR companies won't pay shit to keep you, but they'll pay handsomely to get you.

caffinated3 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:16:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom has literally told me to be insecure about what people think of me, and that my entire life is about pleasing other people. She's also been legitimately pissed because I can't get a girlfriend, which she believes is what makes you a "man". She's also the queen of "things are just done this way". She forced my family to go to church simply because that was what "you're supposed to do". Yah, one of my friends had to coach me out of the social anxiety that my mom gave me. Still haven't fully recovered.

timx21 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:17:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I never picked up on sarcasm until I was older so the whole time I was a child I would always believe to be true, everything my dryly sarcastic parents and brother said to me.

ugoglencoco ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:19:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to learn that I'm not actually a horrible person.

My mom would always pit my sister against each other, nothing I did was ever right or good enough. My sister was the golden child, I was the scapegoat. We were treated completely different growing up. Any goals I had were squashed immediately, because "we all know you won't follow through with ____." Come to learn that having a narcissistic mother is a real thing. It's scary, and I feel such sympathy for anyone else going through the same thing.

You're not an awful person.

K1ng_N0thing ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:31:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That getting a college degree would guarantee me a high paying job.

"All you need is that piece of paper! That's all companies care about! "

Dumbasses for telling me that, bigger dumbass for listening.

B_P_G ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think things may have been different decades ago - back when few people had degrees. Now people with degrees are a dime a dozen. But yeah, I heard that lie a lot too.

whaattodo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:35:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Always but others first. I had to turn 26 before I realized that if I don't look after myself, noone will.

iamtheowlman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:39:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you have to set yourself on fire to keep other people warm.

My first memories are of her helping the old, sick and dying. She wasn't a nurse, it wasn't her job, she didn't get paid for it, but she was always looking after people.

And nearly all of them had families or churches that sat like vultures to inherit after they died, doing nothing to help. The number of times I heard "No, don't leave me anything, because they'll take me to court".

H0bbez ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:58:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not me, but my wife. Her parents instilled the "if you have money you're supposed to spend it" way of thinking into her. They have zero savings, go out to eat 10+ meals a weeks, see 4 movies a week and can never afford repairs on their cars/home etc.

toolymegapoopoo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:06:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad is super conservative. It wasn't until college that I stopped believing that all poor people were just lazy and all gay people were diseased pedophiles. He's proudly voting for Trump. I donated to Bernie and will happily tell him I'm voting for Clinton.

grifxdonut ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:22:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have to be nice to everyone and give everyone a chance

Kindlelove ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:26:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

Musicman0 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:27:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't talk to strangers. How are you expected to meet ladies at the bar with that attitude?

Levi-es ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:34:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

lol It's meant to keep you from voluntarily wondering off with a creeper as a child, not keep you from finding your soulmate later in life.

Musicman0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:30:47 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ya... I get that. That answer still remains.

acondie13 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:40:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is very subjective and I don't mean to stomp on anyone's beliefs or political stances.

I grew up Mormon and very conservative. I'm now split between conservative and liberal, and I'm agnostic. I still catch myself subconsciously in the mindset I was raised in. For instance last night we were watching a comedian that was making fun of George w bush, and instantly started thinking up reasons he was an amazing president until I realised that was all the childhood programming. I also keep thinking things like we don't have to care about the planet because the apocalypse is happening soon anyways until I snap back into it and realize what a harmful mindset that is.

gekosaurus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:54:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Basically I thought that soap wasn't supposed to touch my dick until I was 18 because back in the days when my parents used to bathe me, they would yell at me when I tried to wash it.

raptorreid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:16:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

:( I'm sorry

gekosaurus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:19:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It took an ex girlfriend telling me my dick smells like cheese for me to start washing it for the first time

SchuminWeb ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:59:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother used to come up with her own terms for various health conditions because she thought that they were funny. Diarrhea was "dispoopsia", for one. Learned that the hard way when no one knew what I was talking about.

jetsetter883 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:00:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The "real world" is essentially a mean and scary place. One can never be too safe. Keep a low profile and follow the status quo.

It's better to work for somebody else than for yourself.

Avoid taking risks. The worst case scenario is all too much of a possibility.

Most people will try and rip you off. Be paranoid of that.

Being frugal all of the time is necessary for financial independence.

Being curious about sex is wrong.

We're your parents and we're always right.

CardinalMontago ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:00:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents unintentionally taught me to believe there was something inherently wrong with me by yo yo-Ing between ignoring my severe anxiety, yelling at me for being unable to control it, and never getting me the help I needed. My mother let slip when I was about 17/18 that "it"was anxiety - I honestly just thought I was a freak and had carried so much guilt and shame for years in addition to everything else.

It destroyed my education and my ability to not only have normal healthy relationships but also has greatly affected my career and ability to be a functional member of society.

Mid 20's now and my life is still pretty fucked.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:04:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to Hotwire cars. My father instilled thus lesson to me when I was 12, and whenever I was too lazy to walk somewhere I'd just borrow a car

Pingvinfing ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:09:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That "Blood is thicker than water" meaning your family bond will always be more important/stronger than friendships/partners bonds. And I should never rely on anyone outside my family for help or not help anyone outside my family. Basically no one will ever be there for me besides my family. Then I learned that the quote is not even correct. Lol it's "The blood of the covenant is stronger than the water of the womb." which means the exact opposite! (Bonds formed by choice are stronger than those you were born into). Now whenever she tries to say the quote I immediately correct her. And I have amazing friends that do so much for me and vice versa.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:11:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i grew up on welfare and food stamps. I needed to learn how to stop hoarding.Rather than learning to throw things away, that I need to not take or save something just because it's free / cheap and i might need it later.

CherryOnTop222 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:13:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That gay men and women are disgusting and diesease ridden.

I then went to college and spent heaps of time around some of the most amazing people i have ever met, most of whom are still my close friends.

There is a stigma in traditional thinking familes (like the one i was raised in) that homosexuals can't live a wholesome life and are just sex-crazed perverts.

Needless to say, that is entirely not the case. But im ashamed to say i was shocked when i first met some of my gay/bi/trans classmates i thought that way because of my upbringing.

StefiKittie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:13:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Children have no rights. Was abused for years and terrified of all of my family members. It took me fifteen years to really get myself help and get out of that house. Now I'm trying to be an awesome Mama and it kills me how often I have to hold back tears because loving and taking care of my daughter without being abusive isn't as hard as they had led me to believe and it just shows me how low I was on their priority list.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:19:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents did the best they could based on what they knew.

  • I was taught that whipping your child with a belt 20+ times is an acceptable form of discipline. I now have two kids of my own and neither I nor my wife do any sort of physical discipline.

  • People who do drugs are bad people. This belief was pretty much unlearned when I met quite a few people in adulthood that were good people who did drugs.

  • Whites and blacks shouldn't have babies. While this was never explicitly stated by my parents, it was a reasonable conclusion to make based on their behavior. I dropped this belief when I fell in love with a black girl while I was in the Navy.

  • Being an atheist is bad. Simply put, no it isn't. I am one and my kids will likely be atheists as well if we teach them to use their mental faculties correctly.

  • Eat all your food/don't waste food. We tell our kids to eat as much as they need. We don't want to support overeating.

There's several more. I am nearly antithetical to my entire family and, for the most part, a significant improvement.

puggeration ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:34:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mum:

  • Vaccines cause autism and have terrible side effects that outweigh the benefits. Homeopathics have the same benefits without the side effects.
  • Airplane contrails are actually chemicals intentionally released to make you sick in a conspiracy backed by the pharmaceutical industry.
  • your name pre-determines your success in life due to some alphanumeric code related to constellations and whatever (numerology I think it's called) -- she actually legally changed my name when I was a young kid for this reason
  • major world leaders are part of a secret group of evil alien lizard beings posing as humans trying to enslave humanity
  • essential oils cure everything
  • pasteurized milk has no nutritional value
  • chemotherapy kills people and should never be applied

And probably some other stuff I really don't remember. If it's a conspiracy theory targeting pharmaceuticals, fossil fuels or authority in general she probably latched on pretty hard...

Don't get me wrong I she is a good caring mum and I like her very much and respect her drive but reality is she doesn't have a single critical thinking skill.

FezPaladin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know, it's hard to believe there is actually another level beneath the one where Fox News viewers reside.

lroosemusic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:42:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Spaghetti is a healthy and wholesome main course.

clockworkatheist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:56:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents taught me that evolution was a lie and that the Earth is only six to ten thousand years old. It took way more studying than it should have taken to shake that one out.

Tomakt1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:17:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mum told me malaria just made you unable to wake up when I was 4, took me 11 years to realise she meant you died

Helene796 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:48:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's ok to cry. And you can do other things then your father wants. If you didn't do things his way you were useless.

potentialnamebusines ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:27:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My value as a human being is directly proportional to how much money I make.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:43:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not worthy, valuable, or lovable and whatever I have to say doesn't matter.

Dzjill ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:43:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That treating people with respect and being nice to people will make people treat you with respect and be nice to you.

The world is a cruel, cruel place.

Donnaguska ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:55:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I am not entitled to peace, quiet, privacy, or my own opinion. That the rest of the family is entitled to my belongings. That taking out loans is the best way to make up for my financial needs and wants. That I will fail without someone to watch over me. That my opinions are only valid if I agree with my parents and do as they say.

I am in my thirties and still trying to unlearn these things. It's hard.

BeerDrinkinGreg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:03:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That vegetables are flavourless.

It wasn't so much that they taught me this, it's just that my Mom is Irish, and overcooks the everloving shit out of vegetables by boiling/steaming them.

Asparagus is not supposed to be the same colour as a 1973 Plymouth Fury. They are supposed to be a bright vibrant green, that you get by lightly sauteeing them in a dash of olive oil with some black pepper and a pinch of sea salt. Not "Toss in Corelle dish, add a cup of water, cover with saran wrap, puncture with fork, and microwave for 5 minutes on high. Don't season whatsoever."

Carrots can be done sort of the same way. Chicken breast does not take 12 minutes per side. Steak is not supposed to be grey inside. Hard Boiled egg yolks are not supposed to be green! Pork chops are not supposed to crunch when you cut them unless they're breaded. Sushi will not kill you. Potatoes do not need to be boiled for an entire episode of Golden Girls.

My mother believed all food will kill you, unless you subject it to enough heat energy to smelt iron.

horses_for_courses ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:15:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ohmigod, yes! my mother must have been honorary Irish (in truth, Polish) and Lord knows, it took years before I realised vegetables should have colour!!

akujinhikari ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:43:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

FUCKING EVERYTHING. Almost serious here. My parents were not well-educated, and they were afraid to tell me they didn't know the answers to things, so they would just take a poorly-educated guess. They'd try to help me with my homework, and when it was wrong, they would tell me my teachers were wrong but not to argue with the teacher, because it could get me into trouble. One time my parents told me I could get ink poisoning from writing on myself with a pen, and when I was worried about a fellow student's health, I cried out to the teacher to make her stop writing on herself. When I explained my reasoning, everyone - including the teacher - laughed at me. I consider myself a pretty smart person now, and I pretty much blame it on that one incident. I made sure to study everything all the time, so I'd never feel like an idiot again, and now I don't believe people when they tell me facts any more. I have to Google everything to believe anyone.

smalltownbiggie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:01:20 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Catholicism.

spaceywilly ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:53:29 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Obama isn't a mooslim

ChrisCapa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:05:05 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I was a bad person for not going to church and believing in one god.

Once I was able to open myself to all religions I found myself being more open with more people and enjoying other cultures

hyintensity ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:34:16 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

Asubservientfeminist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:24:59 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:00:16 on August 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cold weather causes a cold

Prattleskidaddle ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:38:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the government wasn't going to break into our home and murder us all like they did with the Branch Davidians in the early 90's.

That going to a public school wouldn't make you a soulless groupthinking drone.

That books published after the 1950's actually had some merit.

DruSparro ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:28:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They tried to teach me to be racist and homophobic. That was promptly blocked when I made close friends and had wonderful teachers at school who just happened to be black, and the homophobia didn't hold up because...well... I'm bi. I like 'em both, Mom and Dad! Can't help it!

My_massive_dingaling ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:39:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

good for you!

Jonnasgirl ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:34:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That if I chose to live a gay lifestyle, I'd never be able to have a family or be accepted by society. My older sister is bi-racial, and we're coming up on 50 yrs old. My mother was shamed and ostracized by our family, my sister was taken from her and adopted out (mom wasn't 18 yet, and things were different in Small Town, USA in the 60s). My mom honestly thought she was protecting me from the same treatment she received. I wouldn't say it was easy, I totally believed her fears, got married and had kids, but after my divorce, I said f*ck it, and married my childhood sweetheart (a girl). My younger kiddos seem to be doing great, being raised in a same sex household. My grandbabies by my oldest daughter don't know anything else, they've always had Moe-Moe and Nee-Nee, big whoop. My son-in-law is wonderful, and my older daughters are super supportive. Even my beloved Momma thinks the sun rises and sets on my wife's ass, and has a Gay Pride sticker on her car โ™ก I spent a lot of years living the "wrong life" for the "right reasons". Or vice versa. I'm not sure. But it all worked out, and most people don't give a crap about my lifestyle choice, just that I keep my lawn & house looking nice per HOA codes, I'm a good neighbor, and co-worker, a productive member of society, and a loyal friend. Pretty much sums up life, I guess ;-)

Diversionthrow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:36:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good for you. It's something I'm still having to unlearn at times. Those fears crop back up until I look around me and realize they were wrong.

It's especially funny at times when I look back at the parents telling me these things and find multiple divorces, few real friends, and a general bitterness for the world in them. I realize the only way I could have ever been happy is to be everything they are not.

NovaStarLord ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:44:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That my parents are always right and that they knew what was best, that shit fucking made me insecure and it made me doubt myself a lot.

RitoFreak ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:20:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm a teen now and they still think i have no idea how anything works and they know everything there is to know. And ofcourse: always listen to them and never ask why! (I wasn't let to go with my class to a haunted house because they knew ghosts existed and i wouldn't make it out alive!)

lumpymattress ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

RIP /u/ritofreak

Died by spooks.

FUHGETTABOUTIT_1 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:10:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

skepticalstarstuff ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:48:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mormonism

JinxsLover ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:51:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You could always end up being worth 250 million like good old Romney

pacoflacotaco ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:49:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

religion. racism. homophobia.

JinxsLover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh look a fellow Southerner :D

pacoflacotaco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

lol alaska, but same thing...

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hahahahaha racism is everywhere!!!!

Kitakitakita ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:54:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That Soda bottles actually belong in the fridge and not on the fucking counter.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:18:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being gay is wrong. All my life my parents told me that being gay is a sin. Lol jokes on them I'm gay

greatricepsweakchest ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:56:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion. Its poison.

[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:07:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Took me until I was about 14 to unlearn their religion

NivlacSupreme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:10:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

11 before I realized it was bullshit, 13 for speaking out and 14 for when I started "worshipping" The Omnissiah just to spite them.

shotguywithflaregun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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NivlacSupreme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:08:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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shitthistakestoolong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're lucky. I was 20 before i said "ummm.......yeah.... no."

internetmexican ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:53:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God is real. Basically.....

Also the idea that I HAVE to listen to them, or the idea that elders are more knowledgeable than the younger members of a family.

edit: 4 meals a day, and home cooked meals are healthier than any food you buy while out.

That last one was apparent to me in high school when I ate out and got shit like salads, and water then went home to fried chicken, cheesy pasty, with a side of mashed potatoes....like..bruh.

BenAdaephonDelat ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:10:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion. I know it's the "edgy" answer, but I can't help that it's the truth. My parent were extremely religious. Dad was a pastor, I went to church camp every summer and church twice a week. Unlearning religion was a difficult path, but in the long run it was better for my mental health.

Sultan-of-swat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:55:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mormonism

riptide747 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:07:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents raised me to think alcohol was absolutely the devil's drink and anyone that smoked marijuana was a horrible drug addict and anyone in a fraternity was a rapist.

shitthistakestoolong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:13:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We had the same mom.

riptide747 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is she a high school counselor? All she sees is the bad in people because that's all she deals with every day so she assumes everyone who drinks or smokes is a horrible person.

derbygirl_101 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:15:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

1.) That grades are everything.everything-My GPA doesn't define who I am as a person, what my passions are, or what my future holds.

2.) That when I go anywhere I have to constantly fear for my safety. -I feel safer now than when I lived at home.

3.) That all men are only after sex (after all my dad used to be younger, he knows what all men are thinking). -I am now in a fulfilling relationship with a man who truly cares about me.

4.) That spending money on small gifts to yourself are pointless. - I cannot tell you how happy I am that I have souvenirs of my happy memories.

5.) That what they say is always right, and to never question authority. -I was so submissive and unquestioning that it led to me making had choices instead of good ones.

6.) And finally, no one will ever treat you right, so don't show kindness, it'll be taken as weakness.

KazekageVoid ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:21:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God

pm-me-a-stray-cat ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:08:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
  • It's OK to season vegetables.

  • Taking medicine when you're sick/some part of you hurts is not a character defect, it makes you feel better.

  • Wanting and owning nice things/things other than the cheapest thing does not make you an asshole

  • It's OK to paint a wall a color other than blinding white.

  • I'm still learning this, but I'm beginning to suspect that not every man in the world wants to rape and murder me.

PandaPantiesLP ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:17:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I grew up in Israel, in a quite dangerous city. My father told me to never trust Muslim, which was quite weird now that I know he has many muslim friend. Maybe it was to keep me safe, but now I had to work harr to get the stigma off my head.

RiSStheDapper ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:22:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Therapy or going to see a psychologist is only for those afflicted by mental problems worst and all sorts of other incorrect things about mental illness. Luckily my gf made me realise they were wrong and it is never too early to go to a therapist.

Ashleysykes ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:30:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom would ALWAYS talk negatively about other people. No matter if they were my friends, our family, or what there was always that one negative thing she had to say! I'm still trying to get out of the habit and judge based on the person, not looks or clothes..

CeeKittyDoe ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:30:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents taught me that a cucumber was called "a beating". Until I was three or four years old I'd run around asking for a beating every time we went to the store. I even told everyone that my mom always gave me a beating for breakfast because I liked them so much. That childservices weren't involved is a miracle.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:47:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty much the worst racism, homophobia, and xenophobia you could imagine.

My parents literally taught me that all gay people raped children and that is how they made more gay people since they couldn't have kids. As a queer person who was never molested this made me really confused as a child and horrified that I would end up raping kids because of my interest in men.

I'm now convinced that my dad has queer urges and this was his way of coping.

They were also racialists. They believed that people of color were biologically different and not to be trusted at all.

I'm a queer atheist socialist who is an experimental psychologist.

Imagine their surprise.

radyokafa ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:21:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Islam

hardyhaha_09 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:49:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Homophobia. My dad is rampant with Homophobia. He won't even let Modern Family adverts play due to the inevitable fact that he will see the gay couple appear. For years I was afraid of homosexuals. I was told awful things about them.

Then I grew out of that "believe everything parents say" phase and realised that Dad was the piece of shit, not them.

gearsfan1549 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:35:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Her racist tendencies

YOTC42 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:51:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

Back2Bach ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:11:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's not cool to invite girls into my tree house and give them the secret password.

badgers_can_be_gay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:23:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I don't have to be a dick to everyone around me or try and establish dominance in social situations. I'm still trying to learn this one :(

Stoofandthings ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:46:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being scared of everything involving life, and learning that the whole world is actually NOT against me. ( as far as I know)

squintina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:07:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The whole world's not against you; it doesn't care about you at all. Have a blessed day. 8D

EatingKidsDaily ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:54:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism.

godzillacraft ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So you eat all races?

EatingKidsDaily ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:35:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes but it was an acquired taste.

c_is_4_cookie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:16:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Former member of COJCOLDS

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Because we all know what COJCOLDS means.... Explain

SolitarySysadmin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:51:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Church of jesus christ of latter day Saints

Mormonism if I'm not mistaken.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:18:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh yeah my grandma is really nice and is mormon i dont know how much she actually believes but my mom never taught me any of that stuff although ive seen a bunch of people who do crazy shit because of it.

c_is_4_cookie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:22:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sorry. Mormon.

MrHobbes82 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:34:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the word 'wash' is not pronounced 'warsh'.

isabelleong4 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:46:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That [insert any race other than Chinese here] is [insert offensive slur here]

Benjamin_F_Pierce ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:12:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to handle money. After leaving for college I realized how short sighted they were financially.

cambridgefarms2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:13:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everything about politics.

dataylor1999 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:14:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Subtle racism

terusama ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:31:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That all families are dysfunctional and abusive.

diplomattshow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:32:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I always worry about every possible scenario in a given situation, when none of them will probably happen

elephantime ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:36:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mum taught me that the ice cream truck only played the song when they were sold out of ice cream. I'm not proud of how old I was when I finally questioned this.

Dragon_heart108 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:37:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I wasn't allowed to say no and I always had to be polite. Was sexually assaulted and almost raped as a result of being too afraid that it would seem impolite.

GotMyOrangeCrush ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:43:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Expressing emotions is bad. You gotta keep it all to yourself, be quiet, work hard and do what you're told. Hugs, kisses, nope. Showing anger, not so much. Never saw my parents hug, kiss, hold hands, and even when the worst shit went down, the worst thing they would do was to 'be disappointed'. Maybe I heard my dad yell a couple times, like when the cops brought my brother home, or when he got suspended from school, but otherwise we just got ignored, mostly.

randomguy67 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:44:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That im useless and that nobody wants me around.

NOLAgambit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:45:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism.

AMERICANDECLINE ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:46:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism.

miawall4ce ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:46:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the loudest person in an argument is the right one. My parents would constantly yell over each other in 'discussions' and I still tend to instinctively start raising my voice whenever someone does not agree with me/offers a different opinion. It often leads to arguments (understandably) with my SO because he will assume I'm mad at the fact that he disagrees with something I'm saying.=_=

ColdDeath0311 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:50:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eating all the food on my plate no matter what.

Ghostronic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:51:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I didn't have to do anything I didn't want to.

That's bullshit, and there are plenty of times when you have to do shit you don't want to do.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:52:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Almost every minute of everyday for some people. Most people hate their jobs.

SpetS15 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:52:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

you are very special and very handsome and very intelligent...
 

:/

sethpen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:53:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Passive aggressive. I thought it was normal. It's like breaking yourself to stop it all together.

FrancisCastiglione12 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:57:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That masturbation was a sin. That if I didn't go to my parents specific church, I would go to hell. Literally. In our town of 70,000 people, only 15 were going to Heaven.

Polemicize ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:00:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Turn the other cheek

KellynHeller ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:01:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

scottylubemeup ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:03:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That women who are sexual and inferior to women who are modest and intelligent. I had a lot of internalised misogyny until I started college and realised that being sexual and being intelligent are not mutually exclusive. I realise now that women get enough hate as it is. Sisters have to support each other because sometimes no one else will <3

arcticfox55 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:07:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To eat everything on my plate. Horrible thing to try and unlearn.

cruelings ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:10:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism.

ThanatosSkepsi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:11:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nothing

parkjdubbs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:13:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being narrow-minded. Immigrant family from East Asia who stereotype and shame.

shouldbwurking ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:13:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Always clean your plate before leaving the dinner table. Bad idea.

ponlab ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:13:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm going to speak for the whole Midwest and I know that I'll get hate for this...

Biscuits and gravy is an acceptable meal for anytime of the day.

Negative. You'll get fat as fuck sooooo quick. Learned the hard way.

Bradlez92 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:15:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That money is the end-all and be-all of life, that that's what you need not only to survive in the world but to live a life. And they still adamantly believe it despite all the shit that money has done to us. Money ruined our lives, money ruined my father. He's always bitter, selfish, and ignorant. And what makes it worse is that I see so much of myself in him, that it feels like I'm only destined to turn out the same way.

This got off track. Anyway money is terrible and I refuse to live my life devoted to acquiring it.

Devator22 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:15:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents are rather wealthy, and I am grown up and on my own and significantly worse off than them. There's so much stuff that I had to learn to just deal with, like how to shop based on a budget rather than which place has the best steaks, or that not all poor people are lazy slobs.

I still have trouble with being sick. I had learned that only dirty people get sick, so I have some pretty crippling anxiety based around being clean. Whenever I get sick I feel like a dirty peasant and my first thought is always dammit, if only I'd washed my hands more. Now, I know that's not true but it's really hard to shake.

I_DontUnderstandThis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:15:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You know those scissors that come with kitchen knife block sets? I grew up thinking those were for cutting meat. Not the packaging but the meat itself.

Say you're throwing a chicken breast into some sautรฉ, just throw the whole thing in the pan and start sniping away with those scissors... You'll have bite sized morsels in no time.

Walrus_D0ngs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:44:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They ARE for cutting and trimming meat but you're suppose to trim it before it goes on the stove/grill.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:16:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was young, like REALLY young, we would have "Tubby Toast", (Yes, like in teletubies) which was just cinnamon sugar sprinkled on top of buttered bread.

I was 15 when I realized that it's really just cinnamon toast.

NewWorldOrder781 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:19:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom has always gone top shelf with insults and grabs the lowest of the low when it comes to picking battles. It's made me tempermental and given me that awful "brutally honest" personality. I have had to work on my patience over the years because I used to and still do get snappy and irritated when people argue with me.

freet0 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:19:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom once told me in passing that when you had the flu you were more likely to throw up while asleep than while awake. I don't think she really thought about it at all and was probably just thinking "well you can't stop it if you're sleeping."

But this one little remark turned into me being terrified of going to sleep while I was sick because I thought I would throw up and choke to death. This was not a good way to get over an illness.

Tleilaxian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:20:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

riziger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:20:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is probably slightly cultural, but I grew up never really addressing adults by their name. It was always uncle or auntie.

Even now, I struggle to address people by their first names if they're in a senior position or older than I am. Becomes a little awkward especially when meeting like your friend's parents regularly.

But I also think it's a east vs west thing. Grew up in Asia, never had a problem with this. Moved to nz/aus and now have a problem.

cawkmaster3000 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:22:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a very hands-off upbringing. Thank god, because now that I'm an adult and am aware of all the bat-shit crazy things they think/believe in, I don't have to be deprogrammed.

Kryantli ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:22:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism. I live in the Deep South; thank god I learned to make my own opinions and love and respect everyone.

somenamestaken ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:22:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being Gay is inherently wrong.

goddamntree ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:24:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, more of a need to unlearn now rather than had, but to not correct anyone I disagree with. I had this a lot as a child and realise how detrimental this behaviour is to myself

faceplant34 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:24:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

subgirl83 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:25:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Speaking bluntly without thinking first. It's a constant battle with myself to try to think before I speak, since I grew up hearing rude comments, and hateful and distasteful statements from my parents on a daily basis. I realized I began sabotaging my own relationships as an adult and realized I was the same way, and constantly battle with myself since I made the choice to treat my future husband better than I was taught.

I_am_jacks_reddit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:32:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That white people are better than other races.

PM_MeYourThoughts ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:33:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's okay to be a bit late to appointments, events, etc.

I'm always 15 minutes early now.

Daniel-Tigers-Dad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:33:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That disagreements between you and your SO are best settled by trying to be the loudest and rudest. Thanks to solid overcompensation my wife and I have never yelled at each other in 15 years.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:33:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Folding the bedsheets. Fuck it. Straight from the dryer, onto the bed.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:44:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

How to cook scrambled eggs. Growing up, my family had scrambled eggs every day for breakfast from when I was 5 to when I was about 13, and I thought they tasted awful, but I was hungry and there wasn't any other breakfast food, so I ate these crappy scrambled eggs until I started getting sick just smelling them. Then one day my life was forever changed.

I discovered two things: Scrambled eggs are supposed to be made with milk instead of water, and you didn't have to cook them until they were spongy. My parents had been making scrambled eggs in possibly the worst way possible for most of my life, to the point of me getting sick.

I'm still kind of put-off by scrambled eggs, but I occasionally have some cooked in an edible way, along with some kind of meat, for breakfast. My parents, on the other hand, are still eating rubber for breakfast to this day.

thehymen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:47:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

theres milk in scrambled eggs?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's certainly not supposed to be water

SolitarySysadmin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:11:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can do it without (I don't usually add any) but if you want to go nuts, double cream...

Watch Gordon ramsay making scrambled eggs on YouTube, http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PUP7U5vTMM0 changed my scrambled eggs completely.

thehymen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:31:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ah I've seen that video multiple times. A bit more of a fan of Jamie Olivers(?) version!! Try it.

SolitarySysadmin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:44:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You bet your ass I will. And my quest for the perfect scrambled eggs continues.

throwaway-person ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:40:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Gordon Ramsay's scrambled eggs are good! And protip try ordering "soft scrambled" at restaurants, and avoid the horrid brown skin and nauseating overcooked smell

SolitarySysadmin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:32:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ooh, although the best eggs I've ever had were at a hotel in Edinburgh called LeMonde. Eggs and then a full Scottish breakfast including haggis :)

dee62383 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't add milk OR water to my scrambled eggs. Neither do any of my roommates. We just beat the eggs in a bowl, put cooking spray in the pan, and scramble the eggs with a dash of salt.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:06:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It might just be my locale, but I would call those Fried Eggs

dee62383 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ah gotcha. I'm the southeastern US. For me, this is a fried egg, also known as eggs over easy or sunny side up. This is what scrambled eggs look like for me. But now that i think about it, I don't think I add milk or water to any egg dish. Hmm.

mermaids_singing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:57:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother is a truly awful cook. Julia Child on PBS was a lifesaver.

districtcurrent ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:46:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That gay people are sinners.

22taylor22 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:46:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism.my piece of shit father is extremely racist. There is literally no good reason to be racist besides being an ignorant piece of trash

kapone3047 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:53:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

From Mum: Everything that can go wrong will go wrong. Also a bunch of stuff that can't go wrong will also go wrong, because the world is out to get you.

From Dad: Always put other people first and yourself last. Nothing you do is good enough and everything is about making other people happy (and Jesus, although I never bought into that, even as a kid).

Thirty odd years old with depression and an anxiety disorder, I have almost no self esteem, and what esteem i do have is contingent on pleasing other people. I'm also constantly in a state of panic waiting for things to go wrong.

Several years of therapy have taught me what I need to do to become a healthy minded person, however changing a lifetime of habits and erroneous thinking feels impossible.

sloonark ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:55:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This thread is making me paranoid that I am screwing up my kids' lives without even knowing it.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:55:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's ok to ask for help; it's not considered a weakness. In fact, it opens life up to new possibilities.

panjier ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:55:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I should automatically respect authority/elders/important people no matter what.

After being in the world, I've come to learn that I should give a small amount of respect to a title, but a person needs to earn it.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:55:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I need to save everything because it might be useful down the road. My moms a hoarder and I didnt realize it until I noticed that our neighbors parked their car in their garage instead of stuffing it full of cool stuff.

MagicBeer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:56:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That Santa is real.

rxncannon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:01:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My Japanese mother can't pronounce the "sih" sound in English, so she replaces it with "shi", a syllable common in Japanese. Instead of saying "faucet", I learned to say faw-shit from her. My third grade teacher had to awkwardly take me to the side one day and explain the proper pronunciation.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:02:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to build credit. They told me to buy something really expensive and pay it off a little at a time. When I asked for more exact numbers they said $20 a month.

After a few months I didn't understand why my balance remained the same and couldn't afford to pay it off ( min wage is awesome!) until it was sold to a loan agency and I set up a payment plan with transunion.

Ay_u_wan_sum_fuk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:02:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that I don't actually have to finish every last fucking morsel of food on my plate.

amiintoodeep ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:02:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
  • That not maximizing your income is a form of failure.

My parents' families are loaded due to a very strong work ethic and financial astuteness on both sides. I have those qualities too and was definitely an overachiever type when I was younger, but in my early 30s I came to value my time and freedom more than pretty much any amount of money. I found that the less I chase dat green the more time I have. So, having secured my retirement fund already, I'm living financially poor (earning and spending just a few hundred dollars per month) but I feel wealthy, happy, and free to do what I want when I want. Ever have one of those days where you're at work trapped inside while it looks like a beautiful day? See that guy riding his bike EVERY ONE OF THOSE DAYS with the look of fulfillment on his face that's usually reserved for lovers? That guy is me. Waiting until your 70s to have all your time to yourself is literally a waste of the best years of your life - that's why I decided to enjoy my time in my 30s.

  • When you find the right person you'll get married.

I bought into this and got married in my 20s, which ended in divorce. The whole "legal obligation" aspect just rubs my subconscious the wrong way a little bit every day and has a cumulative drain on my interest in being with someone. I'm certain that I can have a relationship with someone for the rest of my life, but if that person can't feel it's a legitimate connection just because the law doesn't recognize it... that's not the right person for me. The funny thing is that my parents would be perfectly accepting if I was to marry a man or a woman, but they just can't fathom that people could be in a committed lifelong romantic relationship without wanting to get married. They STILL insist I'll change my mind when I meet the right person.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:04:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Clearing one's plate is not necessary. The 20-30 lbs I still need to lose can attest to that.

jimbolimbo369 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's that post depression mindset. Eat now, there might not be food later.

hfiti123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:04:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not my parents but my sister had loaded my mind with plenty of bullshit of her own. I am dyslexic and through elementary school English and Math were always hard because I wasn't reading things right then got frustrated at that fact and made it harder for myself. Damn I hated school so much. I grew up with my sister calling me all forms of the word retarded. I spent most of my life believing I was just /stupid/ and I accepted the mediocre piece of shit I was and that I would never be above a 70 average student, Seeing a C on a paper or assignment was fantastic because it wasn't an F. Because I /knew/ I wasn't going to excel I never tried too, my education experience can be summed up by "just get through the year, you don't want summer school". Well fast forward to college times and I discover that in the 5th grade my farther had my IQ tested and I was in 70th percentile for cognitive function amongst 5th graders. I'm currently on the deans list at my college and I'm a part of an honor society(Sorority) wit ha 3.62GPA, I have never been more proud of myself and my academic achievements as I am today. TL;DR Sister convinced me I'm retarded, apparently I'm not.

arkhamcreedsolid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:55:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bad reading disability here; and you have just explained my life. Though none of my family have ever flat out bullied me about it, they just all very clearly thought I was dumb. I did all the bullying to myself. Hating being the idiot I was, unable to even read without stuttering, and stumbling, and having to sound out words that should be simple. I've always loved to learn though, because it proved myself wrong for just a while. I have never felt greater joy growing up then when I actually understood something in school, and was good at it; especially in math, my worst subject. I was so glad to graduate high school for that reason. Though after taking a year off, I just started college last Monday....I hope for a similar outcome.

BangarangRastaLove ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:05:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That anything sexual is "nasty".

And holding grudges. (Example: 20 years post divorce and my mom STILL bad talks my dad..grow up already! Let go of the negative, quit being negative all the time and life become a whole lot easier.)

Shaedonii1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:04:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

holding grudges maximizes income. Who doesn't want money. Negativity makes the world go round btw.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:05:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Expression of emotion -- all emotion -- is bad and shows weakness.

BiotechBraniac ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:06:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Politeness to the point of letting people walk over you.

Oddly enough, I noticed this in high school and changed it, and I'm now fairly assertive.

MrAndrewDonald ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:07:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't have to be a manly. Being sensitive or slightly effeminate is okay for a straight dude.

brownie338 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:08:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That women aren't all as disgustingly judgemental, self-centered, and vindictive as my mother. Seriously, my mom has done an excellent job of ruining the idea that I can have normal relationships with women. I have a hard time socializing and especially flirting with women, because I'm afraid of potential judgment that most likely doesn't exist.

Conductor_Cat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:09:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That psychology and mental health is bullshit pseudoscience. I had a string of jobs I couldn't perform at and thought I was just broken. 10 years of my life wasted with untreated ADHD. Fuuuck.

oddpotatobandito ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:40:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think I may have Dyspraxia, and I've been struggling to hold a minimum wage job after high-school. I'm trying my damn best to find a job in a rural area, that isn't fast pace or very physical.

TheAdmiralCrunch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:11:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Never accept any kindness, never go anywhere with people, always buy the absolute cheapest thing or nothing at all.

thewrongdoor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:12:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Going way out of your way to do stuff for people and always saying yes will make them want to be your friend.

Bleumoon_Selene ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:13:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This has been said a few times but "talking back.: When I lived with my stepmother it was...weird. I wasn't allowed to speak up for myself. She would hound on me over something and trying to explain the situation was "talking back" and she never hit me but she threatened to smack me for "talking back." Thus I learned to just nod and say, "Yes," "Okay," "I understand." and other choice phrases. Yet I would always get yelled at for only saying those choice words. I still don't understand what happy medium she wanted.

I was 20 when my grandmother suggested I come stay with her and my mother "for a month." It's been almost four years now and I haven't gone back. My mother had to teach me that it's okay to speak up. I still have trouble doing that with her. Any confrontation, even if it's a calm discussion about something I've done wrong sends me to tears. I wonder if that's just how I am though...confrontation has never been my strong suit.

Though for the most part I get along with my step mother when we do see one another, now that we aren't living together.

arkhamcreedsolid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:19:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I relate to this one hard. My fathers the same way, though sadly he'll do more then just threaten aggression, (not necessarily violence, because sometimes he'll just scare you by putting your life in danger, like when we're in the car for instance), and sadly I'm still living with him. :/ he does have a switch though. He's a good man at heart, and has always wanted to be a good father...he just has terrifying flaws that show their head every so often. (Particularly when his word or rule is being challenged, or someone is "talking back.")

eileithyia01 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:13:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That everything bad that happens to me or to anyone around me is not automatically my fault. My mother once screamed at me as soon as I got home from school because my brother's school bus had been late, or would yell at me if she burnt something in the oven and I happened to be in the kitchen at that time.

Several months of therapy later, I'm finally learning that not everything happens because of me.

Ninja5ty13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:14:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I was worthless. My mother, while seeming like a perfect, loving lady to most of the world, was very different with me behind closed doors. The fact was that she didn't love me, and never had. For as long as I could remember she belittled me, abused me both physically and mentally, and convinced me of how little my life meant. This went on until I was 17, when my first serious girlfriend began to show me that I wasn't worthless, that my life did matter, and most of all, that I had a choice. Im still dealing with a lot of messed up things in my life, a lot of which are the direct result of my mother. But while I may not talk to that girl any more, I'll always have her to thank for helping me take that first step towards happiness.

saiyanpuddingod ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:14:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism. I was never openly racist and didn't even know it until I looked at my friends group and saw how many of my friends were Asian. I still unconsciously stereotype people however my friends group has become much more diverse.

pepethemememaster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:15:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To not hate/fear black people

Lucibean ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:15:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Apologizing for everything.

JeskaLouise ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:15:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That love and marriage suck and that it's going to be horrible and you just have to live with it and that men are horrible and your just gonna have to put up with it..(mostly from my mother who instead of getting a divorce because she "heard" it ruins the children still to this day is married to my father and is so fricken annoying about it) ...been married three years now and it's been the best decision I've ever made-yes it's been hard but nothing like my mom ever described

Nightguard119 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:16:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to teach myself that sometimes it is better to buy the more expensive item or pay a professional to do something, my parents are total cheap asses, and I've started to support local buisnesses buy paying a little more there than at the big box stores

jajablah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:16:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that I don't have to eat everything on my plate

tiffiney626 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:16:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To ALWAYS clean my plate!!

bravecoolman117 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:17:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom told me when I was 10 that if I turn the bass up on the radio, my spine would break and I would become paralyzed, and I believed it until I was 16.

SolitarySysadmin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:24:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you sure it wasn't because they had it set "just right" and they would break your spine if you messed with it?

eyesopenarmscrossed ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:19:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism.

Patches67 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:19:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not everybody needs to itinerarize their actions to obsessive levels.

dalcowboiz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:43:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You may have dropped something 1. Everyone needs to itinerize their actions to obsessive levels. 2. Everyone should then itinerize their actions to obsessive levels. 3. If they haven't yet done so, then they should itinerize their actions, to obsessive levels.

Beardman_90 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:19:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to go on vacation, seriously.

Every time my dad would get stressed the F out that we "had to get there on time", and my mom would be stressing out on the packing and (very last second) cleaning before we left.

Both would fight each other for what they wanted and all we kids wanted was relaxation.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:19:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents never planned anything. They always did things whenever they thought of them and life was really hectic. As you can imagine, they were poor financial planners as well.

The first thing I learned was how to clean up messes as I make them. Then I learned how to budget and how to live within my means.

sweetdealthen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:20:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being dumb

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:20:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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dalcowboiz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:26:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some peanut butters say to put them in the fridge so that the oils don't separate, so basically if you don't care about that then you are good. Some peanut butters are also much thicker than others. I have a pb that gets too runny if I don't refrigerate it, yeah it is easier to spread, but I don't want drips of pb falling out of my sandwich. If the pb isn't runny when you first open it unrefrigerated, then I don't see any reason to put it in there.

chairhats ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:20:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the appropriate respond to bad manners was not violence.

phallicCow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:22:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sadly, that hip hop isn't music. They never listened to Nas

abruce123412 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:11:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hip hop is music

Just not GOOD MUSIC

brettf123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:23:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A ton of eating habits, my mother believed an entire week worth of meals could all be prepared using a deep fryer, needless to say I am overweight and hated myself for the longest time because I didn't really understand WHY I was fat. Once I figured out that diet is 80% of weight I had to change a LOT

MichaelaRae0629 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:23:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad always called remote controls a "channel selector"... While not necessarily wrong, it always earned me weird looks when I was at a friends house. I still sometimes slip back into the old habit.

ThataSmilez ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:23:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

That I was always doing something wrong. Due to an undue amount of attention on when I did anything wrong, I turned into an overly apologetic individual who lacked a sense of self-worth, and tried to validate himself through whatever means he could. Along with this I had trouble making decisions (and to an extent still do) for fear of making a choice that would displease my father. Grades were never good enough (straight A's), swim team was not enough, etc etc; I wanted validation from my father but never got it. Around the end of elementary school I was debating the value of my own life. It took until the later years of high school for me to finally get my shit back together and realize that it wasn't my fault -- my father was an asshole.
EDIT: The other thing is the idea that "blood is thicker than water" should always apply. I'm sorry, it was the friends I lived with who got me through the shitty times you put me through. I love my family enough that I will never tell them the extent to which they've hurt me (it would likely kill my mother to know that she and my father nearly drove me to suicide at such an early age), but I'm also no longer so endeared to them that I can consider them as those closest to me. As I learned not to hate myself I was forced to direct some of that towards them.

ripe_cumquats ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:24:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you've been insulted by someone, you have to somehow get revenge to get even.

You really don't need to do that. I ended up making friends out of what I once saw were enemies. A little forgiveness can go a long fucking way.

probablyhrenrai ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:24:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Masturbation is bad and that that weird guilty feeling after a wank is a sign of a properly working conscience.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:24:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother is a Sociology prof, my family has Native American heritage and my mother was raised as such. Her mother and her mother before her and so on. She's a quarter, I'm an eighth.

I grew up thinking that I WAS INDIAN, period. I have brilliant blue eyes, fine very dark blonde hair and mostly Anglo features with a little "ethnic" pizazz in my cheekbones and nose profile. I look like a cant-put-your-finger-on-it white guy who can get a nice tan and who's been mistaken for Russian a few times.

I learned the hard way, at age 12, when I got my ass kicked by 5 or 6 full-blood native kids at a Pow-Wow. I'd been going to them my whole life in CA, 1st one in MN I got a serious reality check.

Now I'm a white dude who has some Indian in him.

ais5174 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:24:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad was abundantly proud of my sister and me being argumentative little shits, and teaching us that every conversation was a battle of wits that had to be won.

I unlearned that in leadership training for high school marching band.

Orion78762 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:40:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You did not have a fun high school...

ais5174 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:10:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a lot of fun actually.

Unlearning that was actually my band director noticing what was hindering me socially and helping me be more aware of it. He was the most phenomenally diligent teacher I had.

Zardif ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:25:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not to eat when just because you're bored and what proper portion size is.

TurtleGloves ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:25:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eating habits. My parent's diets mostly consist of: hamburgers, hotdogs, fried chicken and French fries, mashed potatoes, fish and chips, pizza, Mac and cheese, take out, and that's about it.

I had to force myself to eat well, everything else. I almost never eat all that stuff... Except pizza. They never taught me the importance of eating a balanced diet. Portion control. Nothing. I ate excessively bad food and I was a fat child/early adult because of this. Only through school and weight loss journey did I learn even a bit of that. I still have problems.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:25:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

That mental health doesn't exist.

I suffer from really awful depression and anxiety, and I grew up being told that I was just spoiled and "didn't know how to handle myself when I didn't get what I wanted." They just flat out do not believe in mental health. To them, I don't have depression, I'm just lazy and unmotivated. I don't have anxiety, I just think the world revolves around me and refuse to handle change. It took a very long time for me to stop thinking I was a just shitty person and to begin to get the help I needed.

FMA15 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:26:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To tell my girlfriend how much I love her. Apparently if I do she have the upper hand and manipulate me.

MentalUproar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:26:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Loans, leases, credit and debt are part of your adult life and are okay to have as long as you manage them.

We were really poor after the divorce. It was not unusual to get threatening messages from the bank on the answering machine. We learned also to never answer the phone unless we were expecting a call, regardless of what caller ID said. I learned not to dislike bills, but to outright fear them.

Now, I'm 31 and finally have a car loan.

tewari_shalini ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:26:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Keeping quite, speaking less was a part of cultural decency. It effectively meant think less, talk less..Boy! The moment i was on my own, hell shattered and reality of life dawned. Now i put myself in challenging positions to undo my childhood lesson & try and be a part of the Thinking lot.. woof! Why do we follow everything our parents teach us. M glad when sometimes my kids don't listen to me :)

DisposableHero85 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:27:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everything goes in the refrigerator to "keep it fresh".

My wife and I have had many discussions over what's perfectly safe - and even sometimes better - to keep at room temperature. Like bread, for example.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:27:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family always puts peanut butter, bread, apples, and other things in the refrigerator that are completely unnecessary. Didn't find it unusual until I lived with roommates.

Blinknone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:31:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Apples actually keep much longer when refrigerated.

TesticleElectrical ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:27:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother taught me not to fight back, and to run away and tell someone. Yeah, that worked out well...

In reality you need to stand your ground, stand up for yourself, and don't be afraid to throw the first punch.

Sabatatti ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:28:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Always perfectly roll a sleeping bag into it's carrying sack."

Turns out you should never roll it back, but just push it in so it sets differently each time. Otherwise you will just flatten the insulation material and it becomes much less effective.

SolitarySysadmin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:30:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't know that at all! I'd assumed that you had to roll it to make it fit!

Losemoney79 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:29:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My pops taught me that every other driver was an asshole. I had to learn the hard way that sometimes it was my fault and maybe I was the shitty driver.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:29:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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GoodLunchHaveFries ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:32:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

iloveyou<3

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:30:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was told that Bill Clinton got in trouble because he lied about his age. I believed this for a decade lol.

BaconWrappedPanda ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:30:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother called me "worthless piece of shit" more often than my name for over a year. It took me about of year after I was kicked out to figure out that wasn't true.

girlyandgrody ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:30:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

qusp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:32:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Growing up, our house was an old one which had terrible drainage and toilets were easily clogged. So to prevent this, my parents taught us not to throw our toilet paper down the toilet and instead, throw it in the garbage.

When your mother has changed your diapers and you've changed your younger brothers' diapers, shit is not an awkward subject of conversation in the household. So none of us had any problems taking out the communal washroom garbage.

In college, I quickly learned that this was NOT the socially accepted form of bathroom etiquette. Though I've learnt my ways, I remember losing many a shallow friends during this short period of my life, who I sincerely do not miss.

gratajik ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:34:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't eat before dinner, you'll ruin your appetite! (um yeah... make sure to be really hungry when you sit down to dinner!)

Finish everything on your plate (make SURE to finish off that massive pile of food!)

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:36:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Anger. My parents have tempers and I learned it. I used to think it was part of who I was, but I have learned it is part of who I don't want to be. My parents would drink and fight. I've had fistfights with my father and mother. I didn't start them. When I became an adult I decided on what kind of person I want to be, and that isn't it.

I started reading the Tao Te Ching. I make a concerted effort to be rational and forgiving. I don't start fights anymore. I am happy to be the person I am today, and I am glad I decided to be this person.

HellfireHD ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:37:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I was born a sinner and will never be good enough on my own. Still working through that.

And also to be afraid of the dark. When I was small my mom would turn off the lights in rooms she didn't want me to play in and say "Don't go in there, it's dark in there." When I was 18 and got my first apartment I had to sleep with a lamp on. I'm okay now but it took a long time of conscious effort.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:40:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

That experiencing anxiety and depression as a teenager is "just a phase" - I think 12 years is a long fucking time for something to be a phase.

Wiseguydude ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:49:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad raised me as a conspiracy nut. A history class with the most amazing and passionate history teacher fixed that.

My dad raised me telling me that school is not to be trusted and it's full of lies. While it's good to have a healthy self-doubt, it's caused my brothers (and me for a while) to be so apprehensive about education that we began to do poorly in school. They still haven't recovered from this.

My dad taught me to fear authority and that they're all out to get us. He told me never to tell anyone that he beat us because "they" (as if there's some evil government force) would take us away. To this day I still struggle talking to anyone older, higher ranking, or in a state of authority.

Weirdly, he also taught me to have absolutely no respect for laws. He shit on every law possible and had no respect for the rights of other that it expected. He taught me to get ahead in life by any means necessary no matter who it screws over.

In elementary school he told me not to hang out with black people. Luckily, half the people at my school were black so it was inevitable that I'd make a friend that would teach me how wrong he was. My elementary school was REALLY good at teaching us to overcome racial tendencies and to love each other. My mother also helped teach me that this was wrong.

Pretty much I went through a huge transformation recently and realized that everything my dad taught me was not only wrong, but contradictory to the values I actually care about. He still tells me that I'm going through a "phase" where I just rebel despite the fact that this "phase" has been happening for like 10 years now. I'm too old for a fucking "phase."

abruce123412 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:51:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Geez, what mental condition is that called?

Wiseguydude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You know, he's told me quite a few stories about some gruesome head injuries he's had. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that his brain just stopped maturing at the age of 13 haha

abruce123412 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:44:16 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

in the edgy phase of course

Wiseguydude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:18:39 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haha still there

abruce123412 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:16 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

never leaving

RTShelby ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:50:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Calling anyone or anything of Asian or Indian descent or make "oriental."

FlyAwayPanda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:20:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Omg I can relate! My mom always said "oriental" and not until I was older did I learn that is not an acceptable term. I had to teach HER not to use that word.

RTShelby ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:12:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Still working on helping my parents out! It's just so engrained, it's difficult to change after so many years of it not being a problem in their eyes ๐Ÿ˜…

im_not_a_writer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:50:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother used to tell me to always buy clothes a size or two bigger because "you'll grow into them". As a result, I always had clothes too big for me growing up and I never really grew into them. I'm still short :/

you-create-energy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:51:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I exist to serve the needs of others. Still working on unlearning that one.

Imatwork123456789 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:52:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

to be a pushover.

colorsofshit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:55:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you don't live to make your family happy. My parents live to show our family members "look! We are picture perfect" and I'm living a completely lifestyle. They're embarrassed by me but nothing I do is a danger to society or myself. So Ive had to learn to make myself happy and not give a shit about what the family will say

MajoranaFermionCakes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:55:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be a doormat and to tolerate abuse from people close to me.

In arguments, instead of focusing on the actual issue which is being debated, to find the deepest insecurity of the person I'm arguing with and attacking it incessantly.

To manipulate people into doing what I want using guilt and emotional blackmail.

Drinking a whole lot.

Not looking at people close to me as individual humans with their own personalities, desires, and goals, but rather as meat bags embodying all the expectations I have for them, and all the consequential disappointment.

TL;DR I live 6500 miles away from my crazy-ass family and I regret nothing

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:55:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am working on removing "yelling is acceptable" and "check your pockets when walking past black person"

TheTurdman69 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:55:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

trying to unlearn how to be a fat shit but after having fat and sugar shoved in my face for years it's pretty hard.

meatb4ll ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:55:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Clothing. Had to learn not dress like my dad. Some was that we thought I was still going to grow then got used to it, but some was just my parents not liking slim fit jeans or chucks.

Spacegod87 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:56:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it was pointless to go to a doctor. Both my parents were like this for a long time, especially my mother. We were a healthy family. No allergies, no serious illnesses or anything. They took this to mean that it could never happen to us. My dad has since come to his senses but my mother is adamant that she's perfectly healthy and she knows her own body better than any doctor could.

abruce123412 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:57:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I must follow the exact orders of everyone of authority

I respect people of authority (police, security, ext.), but they tried to drill into my head that they are the highest of the authority triangle, and whenever I denied to do something, they went all "OH MY GOD ABRUCE123412 YOU ARE GOING TO GET ARRESTED AND PUT IN JAIL WHEN YOU GROW UP BECAUSE YOU DONT LISTEN TO AUTHORITIES"

Jacksurprise ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:58:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"don't bother trying to travel...it's too difficult and plane tickets are too expensive"

"don't ever try to defend yourself" (pacifism)

mcwarwick ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:58:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Over the decade I've been away from home, had to learn that soda isn't supposed to be something you drink with all the time (as your only beverage basically) and that credit isn't how you get what you want.

Luckily I learned the soda thing quickly, but my brothers did not. They are in their early twenties and have rotting teeth. And we are all paying off debts taken in our names by our father or debts taken on by his advice.

diaperedwoman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:58:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Apologizing. People were telling me I wasn't sorry. I was taught to say it whenever people didn't like what I did or got upset with me. So I had to unlearn it.

callaccal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:58:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family grew up pretty poor and my parents had to make a lot of sacrifices to keep food on the table. All through growing up my mother would forbid my sisters and I from playing with twist ties (not sure why we would have wanted to play with them) but she always told us not to touch them because they were really expensive. To this day I will find myself collecting twist ties and not throwing them away and I have to make a conscious effort to get rid of them.

Capizen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:58:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They taught me not to spend other people's resources. Spent a week at my ex-girlfriend's house hungry. I like the concept but I should probably tone it down a bit.

cheekujodhpur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:59:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That learning music as a hobby won't affect my science education. I bought a violin in my first year of univ. Wanted to do that since eighth grade

enderfem ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:00:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That interrupting people is no big deal. This has been so hard to unlearn and has cost me professionally and personally.

TrepanationBy45 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:00:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The usual, unexciting concepts of "I was raised to feel that way, and I agree with it [but can't actually explain why I agree with it, and I will get angry and frustrated if you press me in intelligent debate about it]"

I just had this convo minutes ago regarding "bad words" while attempting to watch End of Watch with my mom. She became super perturbed at the language in the movie, so we just switched to Star Trek instead.

When I was young, my best friend's mother would pick us up from school and I'd hang out there until my mom got off work and came to pick me up. Friend's mom was a teacher in our district, but she was super progressive and encouraged curiousity and questioning. I remember testing this by spelling F-U-C-K in magnet letters on the fridge, and while she was shocked, I didn't get in trouble and she complimented my spelling (lol). This house was a safe place for us youngsters that was free of judgement. We were average teenagers, but really appreciated the openness of that household.

I genuinely feel that that exposure to "free thinking" laid the groundwork for my ability to explore whatever my beliefs are, and the flexibility to consider new concepts with an interested mind.

bangingmomsworldwide ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:01:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother taught me how to gossip. I had to unlearn that real quick.

91Bolt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:01:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You will get sued for doing absolutely anything ever.

Gangfight ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:03:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Spend all the money

UNSC157 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:03:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cooking bacon, crispy almost burnt bacon. Couldn't believe the flavor explosion when my buddy gave me some that wasn't so overcooked

catbert359 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:04:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents did the well meaning thing of trying to get me calmed down quickly whenever I got angry or cried (I didn't cry much as a baby, but when I did it was loud and was very difficult to get me to calm down), which in my kid brain translated to "it's not okay to be upset ever."

And though I know it wasn't her fault, my sister has had symptoms of anxiety from a very young age, which kinda culminated in her needing quite a bit of attention from my parents. So that plus the other thing taught me to suppress all hurt, upset or anger and work through it by myself, or hold onto it until it dissipated.

Still working through that one, especially with regards to anger.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:04:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I don't deserve to be happy because by nature I'm foul and corrupt.

sariously3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:05:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you don't need to stereotypically judge everyone. That not everyone is a horrible person. That maybe I am worth something. That I can buy myself things when I need them, such as socks. That not everyone is like them, but that I have the right to remove them from my life and I can change.

UnicornMomma ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:07:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To not help people in need. My mother told me that if I tried to help someone who was injured in an accident or fall, that they might try to blame it on me.

QuantumFall ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:07:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Help everyone even when you can't help yourself. Ended me up with 8 months in a treatment center for depression.

opda2056 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:08:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm in the process of unlearning how to distance myself from people.

My dad and my mom have had a strained relationship, and due to people disliking my parent I pived with. I never had the chance to meet people and make friends. I was odd and picked on, so I distanced myself from every body: games, books, tv, sleep.

Now that I know I dont need to, I'm struggling to figure out just how I can connect with someone 100%.

mossican ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:09:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mum told me apples would "clean my teeth" so I had one before bed often as a kid. Had a mouth full of fillings by age 12.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:09:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad thinks flies will kill you.

NotMyRealName14 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:09:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sex is sinful. Any attempt to indulge in your reality is probably sinful.

Kieliah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:10:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That taking reasonable risk is bad and should never be done. It made me turn out like a parent and has cost me many relationships.

workcyclecreate ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:10:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh damn allot of things but here is one of them

Well from the age of 12 i think, i had to come home immediately from school so i could clean the house and watch my stepsister who had a psychological thing (stole everything she could lay her hands on, food, clothing, money, nicknacks and lied like it was the truth inclusive fake tears everybody outside of the house believed instantly) she was 3 years younger.

And because i couldn't be everywhere at ones and couldn't see or hear everything i had to put pieces of tape on the doors to see if she had been there. Had to remember every single detail of what was standing in what way to see if she touched it while stealing something. And listening to every single sound in the house with suspicion. Maybe she was sneaking around

So I'm 25 now, and still trying to let that piece of mind go. I still put everything on tables or cabinets a certain way so i could easily see if someone touched it or not. Even at work.. They say "you have an eye for detail!" Like thats a good thing. They should know the why! Haha

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:51:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What happened to her after?

GanjaGiggleBear22297 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:11:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to relearn how to not ask if I can use the shower. It sucked living with 4-5 other people in the house. There is always someone doing the dishes or laundry.

SnowOrShine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:11:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm 24 now and something I only realised recently looking back:

My parents cycled me through about 6 different competitive sports as I was growing up, hockey, badminton, karate etc. As soon as I went to an official competition in said sport, I'd have a fun time, lose horribly and go home. And never play that sport again.

They just assumed that I was heartbroken at losing and wouldn't want to play whatever that thing was ever again. But honestly I never wanted to do any of those activities, and certainly never competitively.

So I guess they were trying to teach me that winning was more important than having fun, fortunately for me it didn't take =)

LukeDankwalker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:13:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Bigotry and close mindedness. My father for years believed that there was no way global warming was real and he's probably the most stubborn person I've ever known, literally impossible to change his opinion on anything no matter how wrong it is. My mom is disgustingly racist, if we drive through a hood she'll make comments on how stupid blacks are and how they love to steal. I'm really not sure how I didn't grow up to be like them

NormanConquest ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:15:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Two things:

  1. Always do things by the book. My mom always believed in doing everything above-board, which is an admirable quality. But sometimes you just need to take a shortcut, or ask for a sneaky favour, or just cheat a little bit. Sometimes that kind of thing gets you far in life. As an adult I'm far too honest and I usually end up at the back of the line because I'm too well brought up to cut in like everyone else.

  2. If you have a bad day at work it's totally normal to come home and be an asshole to your family members/partner. Nobody in my family was abusive, but we had this environment where it was expected you had to be careful around mommy/daddy because they'd had a stressful day. These days I try my best not to bring a bad day at work home to my fiancรฉe.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:17:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Never waste food. As an adult, this evolved into me finishing everyones plates (both kids) after a meal... and resulted in me becoming obese (not anymore though!)

Unco_Slam ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:23:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Natural foods are the ultimate health food. Hell, anything natural is good for you.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:31:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I really have great parents, but my mom instilled in me that I should try to please everyone and should care what everyone else thinks. It's how she was and still is. I'm only now (in my 30s) realizing how to stop being that way, and it's an ongoing process.

Yuanlairuci ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:33:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh god. Homophobia, racism, celibacy, alcohol is the devil, drugs are the devil's older brother....etc

TheYearOfThe_Rat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:35:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Drugs ARE the devil's older brother.

wd3war ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:48:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, but he's like the cool older brother.

TheYearOfThe_Rat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:36:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The chill older brother.

Talisman192 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:34:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents are super Catholic and I had to learn on my own that, no, gay people are not, in fact, evil and agents of Satan himself.

Almostly423 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:34:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cursing, I've been trying to unlearn that shit but it's so fuckin natural to my speech.

Iripiritje ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:34:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Relationships always end bad. She didn't actually told me but she has a poor taste in men. So it's more the experiance.

brucejhudgins ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:34:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I learned how to write left-handed, but my mother told me I had to write with my right.

I'm now nineteen years old and can only write with my right hand.

KnowledgeNate ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:35:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That suffering is good and having fun is bad.

2cubetaing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:35:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eating things with rice. Being Asian, my parents made us eat almost everything with rice. Chicken, pork, eggs, pretty much any meat was eaten with rice. That wasn't even the bad part, it was that the rice had to be eaten either more or equal to the main dish or it was considered disrespectful. I still haven't really shaken it, if I eat anything with rice its usual a 60/40 ratio.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:40:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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2cubetaing ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:56:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thankfully not. I'm not sure if it would be good or not, but I know a guy that might know.

itonlygetsworse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:35:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Their casual racism and bias from being born way back then.

pastkitten ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:35:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have to unlearn that... lying is okay, you don't have to budget if you want to keep your money, people aren't worth more than just what they look like, doing drugs is fine...I could go on and on. my parents shouldn't have been parents.

dedorian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:35:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's OK to let people in. My parents smoked a lot of pot and were heavy drinkers. Because they would often leave bongs out, beer bottles on every surface, etc., I was told to never bring any friends over from a very young age. I was told to avoid kids that got wanted me to meet their parents because they were worried that those parents would call the police on them. I still feel strange whenever someone wants to come over to visit me instead of me going over to them.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:36:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The bunny ears method of tying your shoes, my god that thing is awful

sgt_roflman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:37:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

you mean theres a better way?

arkhamcreedsolid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:37:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That being the middle child meant I'd never be good enough. Still working at it...

keep_it_calm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:38:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was taught not to ask for things--if I deserved them, I would get them. I think it made sense in personal relationships. However, in a work situation, if you don't ask for it, you won't get it. It's important to teach kids how to gauge when it is appropriate to ask for something and when it is rude and self-centered.

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Tsukeo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:41:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents are amazing, but I was always told 'smil og vรฆr glad for hver dag som gรฅr, sรฅ skal du se hvor mange venner du fรฅr', which is a Norwegian 'proverb' (song? lol idno) telling someone to always be happy, whatever happens to you. This, unfortunately, makes it very easy for me to bottle up bad emotions over a long time. :(

Israeli_Unicorn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:41:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

My mom is mildly racist. Had to "unteach" myself that calling someone Mexican is an insult. Used to refer to all my Mexican friends as Spanish or Latin American for the longest time.

blueskypie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:43:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So... Calling a Mexican.... a Mexican.... is an insult in your mind?

Israeli_Unicorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:45:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Had an extra 'not' in there

makinlovetomyvibes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:42:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to pronounce "breakfast." I've been pronouncing it "bre-fis" my entire life and didn't realize there was anything wrong until my friends called me out on it a month ago.

iamtheredheadedslut ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:45:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Self-loathing

imnotabus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:51:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Leaving a mess and not cleaning it up... I still haven't gotten past this completely, but as an adult going to see my parents place... Stuff left all over for years and years. It is not how I want my life to be.

Also fixing things that break, they just tend to leave things broken.

Basically procrastination to the extreme.

Chevsapher ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:52:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents judge people, like, a lot. They're also very religious. It took me a long time to realize that you shouldn't worry about what others think about you, and it's ridiculous to talk shit about people because they slept together before they got married or they don't go to church anymore or they drink a bit too much.

I often wonder how much shit my parents talk about me, now that they know I'm gay, not going to church, and snorting stuff.

hanndle_this ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:52:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You really don't have to eat everything on your plate if your full. Also that if you brake a plate or glass in the kitchen it's not then end of your life. My in laws helped me truly understand, don't cry over spilt milk.

TermperHoof ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:52:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My father always taught me to turn the other cheek. He said that "Jesus would always favor the meek." He insisted that I never fight back because God would frown upon that. It was his belief that those who did wrong and struck me would always get punished in the end if I remained on the 'Higher Ground'.

This gave me hell when I was younger. This advice made me a very easy target to get picked on all the way up into High School. Eventually I realized that I needed to defend myself because no God was going to make my life easier for me.

S33N03ViL ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:55:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm worthless. Still trying to unlearn this.

Throwagayoffarooftop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:56:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

All races are equal.

SplendidNokia ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:58:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Going through "proper channels" for bullies or people harassing me. Telling teachers and parents did nothing for me, breaking a few noses and getting confrontational does wonders for getting assholes off my back.

aysedeefjaykayelsemi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:59:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

Ladylibrarian1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:59:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To lie and keep secrets. Very abusive childhood but who would have known in our rich part of town??? Sorry this struck a cord with me. I'm 33 and still working with a therapist to try to understand.

avantar112 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:00:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

being slightly chubby is just my body type.

Miaoxin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:01:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"All brands are basically the same product, so always look for the lowest price and never pay more than bottom dollar. That's how you get rich."

Um... no. It turns out that's how you keep replacing shit with equally shoddy shit and spend more in the long run than buying quality the first time. When I started spending 50% more on an item that lasts three times longer, my life was much better.

My 77 year old dad still doesn't look at quality. "If it's a dollar cheaper, it's a dollar better." He's got a shitload of money from land, inheritance, and oil/gas ventures, but he'll buy a used vehicle with 140k miles over one that's newer with 1/3 the mileage because there's a $499 price difference. Then complain that the [insert year and model here] is junk because he spends so much repairing it. He hasn't made or saved a dime from being product frugal.

glich159 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:03:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"You do it because I said so"

It really bothered me as a kid that I was never explained why we had to do certain things. If I questioned it why, then I would get spanked for disobeying. My father was a military man and it works in the military. But not for the family, and by giving clarity people are more likely to do tasks rather than follow blondly

GronkleMcFadden ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:05:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To eat all of my food even when im full

Pentafeel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:06:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom has taught me over the years a lot of things I can't do because people are born with talent and things can't be learned like drawing, singing, and dancing.

Carcharodonfan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:08:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm handsome.

M3n747 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:54:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, I certainly like your typeface.

hahahoss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:12:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That Fox news is the only unbias news network and CNN is socialist propaganda.. it wasn't until senior year of high school when I followed the Romney Obama election by myself that I realized "news" isn't news and our government is fucked

_validate_me ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:18:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That MSG was the devil and to always avoid it. I looked it up recently and there's no real evidence against it.

Long live delicious

freeze123901 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:22:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That people aren't always verbally attacking you no matter what they're saying.

Thanks mom

angus_mcwalsh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:24:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Had to unlearn that casual homaphobia is okay.

My parents are good people but they both grew up in a time when it was alright. I still watch old sitcoms and wince when a casually homephobic comment is said.....

They never meant any harm but that was the problem.

ChamboChick ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:25:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

TIL my parents aren't nearly as fucked up as I thought they were!!

abaloun32 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:29:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eating habits. Parents eat awful and are extremely overweight. Took my about 6 years of being on my own to fix

undercover_redditor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:29:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It is ok to defend yourself. It sucks growing up with bullies.

BrandGSX ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:29:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had the complete opposite where I basically had to learn everything when I finally moved out on my own. Single mom two kids. She was young and didn't want to stop partying. I always struggled in school because I had horrible study habits. I couldn't clean properly to save my life. Cooking anything other than instant food was always a disaster. Had to learn that if I wanted attention getting in trouble was not the best way to get it. I had some pretty awesome grandparents and aunts and uncles who kept me from being a complete failure. I pretty much had to relearn everything I taught myself.

I lucked out. I honestly was worried I only had three options in life. Homeless, jail, or dead. If those three things don't motivate you to learn to be better in all aspects of life nothing will.

I'm now happily married, good job, no violence drugs or alcohol abuse in my life. Looking back I'm grateful things didn't turn out the way it could have.

invisi1407 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:30:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My father taught me racism. I've unlearned that since.

gndmpnk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:31:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you have to finish your plate.

WaaahnPunch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:31:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To just sit quietly when people are talking. They never included my brother and I in conversation, we'd get told off for interrupting.

Took years to learn as an adult how to contribute to a joint group conversation.

I also hate taking to my parents now as they constantly interrupt my wife and I.

bdyelm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:36:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My son will have to unlearn where money comes from.

He's five and I used to put coins (pennies, nickles etc) in apples that fall off the apple tree, just shove them right in there. He'd smash some apples, nothing. Then I'd hand him an apple with a coin in it and he smashed it and found a penny. Got soooo excited. Some apples have money, some dont.

My wife tried to tell him I was tricking him and he got mad at her. LOL

bulmeurt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:38:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To finish my meals even if i was full. Till this day I have a hard time leaving food on my plate.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:40:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That men don't cry

TheSnydaMan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:43:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That they knew everything.

faintedsquirtle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:46:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's okay to let your child drink on special occasions.

Don't let your child drink liquor. At all.

Donutsareagirlsbff ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:49:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the world is unsafe.

My mum was a terrible mother and chose to be in an abusive relationship for money, she taught me women made horrible, jealous friends and men were animals.

My father ignored any of my problems and blamed me for everything my abusive step mother did to shut me out of their family. He also refused to let me grow up and would patronise any efforts I did to do so.

Then they both told me I wasn't allowed to tell other people because 'I don't want people all up in our business, that's my personal stuff, nobody else's'.

It left me very broken in my adult life. I never feel like I can stand up for myself, I think there's always something people won't like about me and I generally feel like it's my fault whenever something happens on a social level.

I saw some councillors about it and they helped me so I'm not as bad now but I have deep regrets and resentment towards my parents for the damage they caused me. Neither of them has ever taken any responsibility and I no longer talk to my father. The only reason I talk to my mother is because of she doesn't have me she has no one and has told me several times she's suicidal. I just want to scream at her sometimes that she's not allowed to do that to me, she ruined my childhood and teenage years, she can't ruin more of my life by selfishly ending hers.

Sorry, I sound like a terrible person. At least I'm not like them... I hope.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:49:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To believe that people are good, don't act like total shit heads and you can trust them without fail. It's true for some people but not most. I thought all people were just good. Sometimes do bad things but good. That's not the case.

anothernewone2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:54:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Self-confidence

Pixel_Freaks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:01:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mum used to say, "tidy your room, it looks like a bomzitit". I never questioned what a bomzitit actually was. I just gathered it meant a shithole. I learned later in life that she was actually saying "bombs hit it". The day i learned that, my life felt complete

Dunavks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:03:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't really know how to be a guest. I'm slightly better at being a host. My parents & grandparents insisted that "we have our own home" and I shouldn't hang around at other kids homes much. I'm in my 20s now and when my mom points out that I don't know how to behave I just get angry. I really have no idea about the proper etiquette, I just kinda play along to whatever others around me are doing.

Riiwii ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:03:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That every person who's got piercings, tattoos, weird hair or something like that, is probably not someone who really want to kill me.

My parents was not really that tolerant of other people. When I was 16 I got a friend who had crazy hair and a bunch of piercings, and later got a bunch of tattoos. My parents was not happy. He was a really down to earth, sweet guy.

vega711 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:10:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Respecting all elders. I've realised that just because someone is much older than me, it doesn't mean they can't be downright stupid, spineless and spiteful and they sure as hell do not command my respect.

Premi23 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:11:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was taught that when I shower, I should wash my hair 3 times with shampoo, and use my fingertips to rub the roots of my hair..

No wonder I have hair falling out already..

2_F_Jeff ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:13:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That every republican opinion is the correct one. Don't get me wrong I still consider myself republican but sometimes my own party really makes me wonder how they're in charge.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:18:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I needed to make fun of gay people whenever I see them and that it's okay to hit people who are LGBT.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:20:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That coke is not the general term for sodas.

ElevatorSwag ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:26:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Could be worse... You could be from the Midwest and call soda "pop".

Mockles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:23:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Instead of asking for something they will just say yes please to me. E.g: I'm making a tea and they ask with "yes please" or "tea thanks." Annoys me every time now

jadesaddiction ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:24:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it is okay to be mean to people, push them away, and not love them.

I'm still struggling to realize that I need to keep those that love me close rather than recoil at affection. My mom may not love me but thank god my grandmother does.

Pinguanradclaffe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:24:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That every little mistake is representative of larger mistakes you'll make as an adult.

E.g You forgot to put spoons out on the dining table - no-ones going to employ you if you are forgetful! (not made up, thats a genuine conversation I had as a kid.)

This has screwed me up for a long time and is taking a while to unpick.

Missingfly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:27:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Still working on being okay about being interested in sex/relationships. It was always 'silly' to think a guy might be interested in me. It might not come off as something completely horrible, but the constant teasing and joking about me and boys as a kid/teen messed me up. I still can't make eye contact with men I find attractive, because I feel ashamed for finding them attractive. Even in the last year, my mom went to dinner with some friends and I, and as I was sitting down after returning from the restroom I caught the end of my mom telling them that I was shy and that she needed them to help me find someone that would love me. Not really sure how to explain how pathetic it makes me feel, or how to get past it.

johnnymaxwell ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:28:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I grew up in a cluttered, unkept and pretty dirty house.

Usually because my mom sucks at house work and I believe at times has been fighting depression and bipolar most of hear life, and at the same time because my dad has had to work so hard to A) earn the money, B) keep my mother sane, C) keep the kids functioning and therefore he didn't really get much cleaning done either.

I'm still trying, because I like it when the house and garden are cleanish and certainly if there's a semblance of order and tidy. But I have a long way to go and it makes me feel guilty as hell when friends or family who are neat freaks turn up at my place.

I also have to get over a bit of a poverty mindset. We were very poor most of the time when I was growing up and I grew up with a bit of a complex about money that I'm still trying to deal with now.

aerohk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:33:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't wait for green at traffic lights.

sinRes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:34:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That just getting a passing grade is ok. Don't get me wrong, it can be perfectly fine to just pass a class, the problem is that this ment that I never really learned to study properly untill I got to the university and realised that in order to get a proper education you have to put in a lot of work. It took me a few failed classes to learn how to study properly.

mirreshady ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:34:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm handsome..

AngrySociety ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:37:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought the moon was made of cheese. I believed this right up until year 9 when my science teacher taught me otherwise. It's now an ongoing joke in my family.

AmumuHug ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:41:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

groome1320 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:42:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good job. Genuinely

Steve_McSteveface ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:45:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That if I ate too much of one type of food that I would turn into it

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:51:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That if someone is hurting you, giving you a hard time, hitting you, taking advantage of you, or just plain being mean to you they are doing you a favor.

My old boss used to keep me a few extra hours after I clocked out of work. No extra pay. My dad laughed and said "Guess he's preparing you for management!" nope. I got fired a few months so he promoted the girl who was sucking him off.

My dad just blamed me and said I was probably just a shit worker.

lasanja ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:54:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That every minute the light is on, that's $10 on the bill. No joke, my dad told me this and I honestly believed him. LOL

HamatoKameko ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:55:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom convinced me she could see "red dots" in my eyes whenever I lied to her.

She then finally blew it when I was around 12 when she pulled out that card... and I was telling the truth.

dr3adlock ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:01:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But up untill 12 this worked? May have to try this but I was thinking "I get a tingle every time you lie to me" or some Shit, might last longer.

HamatoKameko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:54 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was a very sheltered kid with strict parents and was homeschooled for two years. It wasn't hard to keep me manipulated at that point. :/

dr3adlock ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:27:45 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Danm sounds hard, how have you turned out tho? i was raised by my hippie mum could basically do what ever i want barley went to school at all but i still have a degree in digital art and am in the process of creating my own clothing company. Did all that's strictness and homeschooling help you get a decent job and did you end up finding your place in the world regardless?

HamatoKameko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:16:01 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was homeschooled for seventh and eighth grade, a time you may recognize as really goddamned important to social interaction with your peers (there were a few kids my age at church but I barely got to see them and they weren't really friends). Returning to public school after two years of shitty, sexist, uber-Christian curriculum sucked. I was way behind starting high school, not prepared for algebra, not having memorized the periodic table like everyone else had had to, having learned a heavily cherry-picked version of history, et cetera and so on.

I was immediately outcast for being "weird," had no friends, and even if I'd had friends I never felt that going out with them would be an option. My world was school, marching band, my part-time job, and farm chores. My stepfather became increasingly abusive and violent towards me and my mother didn't have the guts to leave him, so I was trapped, becoming an increasingly nervous wreck.

It took me years to learn how to socialize on an adult level (and I still struggle with it), I had a nervous breakdown in college and ultimately dropped out (even though college degrees had been expected of me practically from birth), and a few years later, lost the happiness I'd carved out with my own little apartment and job I adored because I got sick (supposedly a "panic attack;" I still don't buy that given the permanent damage it did).

If it hadn't been for an online friend taking me in after I'd spent many months living in my car (my stepfather declared I was faking being ill, even after I'd won disability, and that helping me in any way would just be "enabling" my "laziness," so moving back home even temporarily wasn't an option), I likely would have killed myself. I spent seven years living with this amazing friend, was quite happy for a change, was with her as she battled cancer and had surgeries and went into remission, and this past year, watched the cancer return, withering her to nothing and taking her from me.

I have PTSD from the years of abuse, anxiety of every kind (from OCD to social to generalized), and crippling depression, among a myriad of other health problems I won't go into. I have permanent motor tics from medication for the previous, and suspect that many of my other existing health problems stem from side effects of the original medications. I still can't work, and Social Security benefits don't begin to be enough to even cover rent on even the smallest apartment, so if it weren't again for friends, I'd be living in my car again, too sick most days to even get out to stretch my legs.

TL;DR: It severely crippled me as a human being and every day is a fight to live my life and not just give up.

Shit sucks.

vigilantpooper ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:56:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Broken english.

JSaltsea ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:57:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to cook pretty much anything. My mom was an awful cook and it's no wonder we hated anything home cooked (and both my brother and i) ended up as obese adults.

Did you know vegetables didn't have to be boiled into transparent goo and meat didn't have to burn?

kimpv ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:04:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Doesn't matter how successful I am or what I do, I didn't go to Medical School so I'm a failure and a disappointment.

Nurizeko ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:06:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I never had parents.

r1ch13b0n3z ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:09:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Telling me as a toddler that if a boy is being mean to me, he is actually doing it because he secretly likes you. That thought manifested is my brain and now, what do ya know? I'm only attracted to assholes..

gravedilute ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:16:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To make excuses for everything. There was always an excuse that put the blame on an external actor.

Took many years to unlearn this and learn to take action on my own. Specifically "taught" my wife to identify when I was saying that shit and to shut it down if she heard me attempting to blame someone else for my troubles.

Liberating and very hard at the same time but would rather take responsibility for my actions than blame someone else for why things aren't awesome

JoseJimeniz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:20:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Take all you want, but eat all you take

Parents grew up poor in post WW2 Scotland.

The problem comes when it is at a restaurant or takeout. I didn't choose how much to take, but I did take it. So gotta eat it all. Down to every last french fry.

Took many years to learn to just throw away half the fries, rather than absolutely stuff myself.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:45:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Throw away fries? You monster!

ShamelessFox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This came up last night in conversation.

Take the fries. The next morning chop them up, add diced onion, sautรฉ. Bam. Home fries.

be_happy_right_now ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:21:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not a lesson they meant to teach me but I developed terrible conflict resolution skills from my parents screaming at each other constantly. I either ran away from conflicts or let anger completely take over. Ten years away from home and I'm still regularly thinking "how could I have handled this better"...

queenkarjala ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:21:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Don't ever trust anyone. You will be fine on your own. It's not my fault you chose to trust dickheads, mom. Edit; forgot to add racism.

skiergirl19 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:21:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents taught me that it made me a bad person to be sick. i Would go to school not being able to breathe or swallow because of bronchitisand there were multiple occasions that I got concussions and didn't tell anyone because my parents would be upset with me, because of that I played a band concert and drove my sister's friends home with a concussion so bad that I could barely see the road, and still went to school the next day. Besides that my parents were/are awesome

lizardflix ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:23:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was taught to always anticipate the worst motivation for people's actions. My father had this weird thing where he never wanted to be taken for a fool so he always interpreted things people said with motivations he basically made up in his head. It took me a while to get over this sort of paranoid mindset but I try.

dexxee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:27:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You don't have to finish all the food on your plate.

Hich2000 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:28:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents have always tell me I'm worthless and will never amount to anything in my life. I was also taught to never talk about my feelings to anyone and because of that I just kind of distanced myself from everyone. Right now there's only like 2 or 3 people that I actually trust enough to talk to, but even tehn I'm still hesitant to ever talk about my feelings to them. I don't really think im actually depressed but I have been to a doctor who told me that I probably am, I haven't told anyone though. I'm also 16 so I'm kinda stuck with my parent until I can move out.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:31:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the best way to deal with stress is to a a angrily scream at those you love about what a piece of shit they are.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:36:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I don't have to do everything myself, and it's okay to ask for help.

Asking for help is something I learned to do early on in adulthood (so, not early in life), but really the issue here is knowing that I can totally be in a relationship, and lean on other people for emotional support. Trying not to be a tough dude who can take care of everything. 27 and I've only had one serious relationship, which ended cause I was getting cheated on, and that didn't help my case at all.

Time_travelling_boob ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:37:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not everyone is going to be there for you when you need them, despite what they may have previously said.

tommyk1210 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:45:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That "brown people" are bad. My parents come from a white, Christian area and are heavily influenced by the media. My two best friends are now from Sri Lanka and Pakistan but when I started university I was very hesitant of anyone who was "brown".

the_star_lord ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:46:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That wasting money is okay. I'm 26 and have o my got about 7k saved which is mainly from the last 2years and I want to move out but houses are to damn expensive. My parents are terrible with money and always in debt. Personal finance has been a god send to me.

ZigZagDUCK ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:50:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's something about 'having money' or always being safe that appeals so much to me. Loads of people would use money they have saved to buy something or go somewhere or whatever, but I love just knowing it's always there. Personal finance is a hard thing and I'm still only learning it myself, I'm 20, but I'm really glad you're getting that safety net bit by bit.

the_star_lord ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:00:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wish I started at 20 or earlier. Where I live 1 bed flats are ยฃ120k+ it's difficult but will get there.

ZigZagDUCK ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:19:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You need to move somewhere cheaper mate! I live in Ireland and the only place that dear would be maybe Dublin in the centre of the city! Get somewhere more affordable.

Dimaaaa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:49:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being overly well-mannered. I consider myself polite in general, but if someone is being ill-mannered, I'll change my behaviour as well, or if my neighbors are constantly being noisy I won't be as considerate and quiet as I usually am towards people who are being respectful.

TJ_McWeaksauce ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:51:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Not to be a hoarder.

My family grew up poor, which seems to be the #1 reason why people become hoarders. My mom has, among other things, a drawer full of old instruction manuals. When I tried to throw these manuals out, she said, "But we might need them!"

Firstly, information on how to operate household items can easily be found online. She knows how to search for things on the internet. Secondly, many of these manuals are for devices that don't even work anymore, or aren't in the house anymore. If you have a manual for a Walkman, but you haven't laid eyes on a Walkman since the 90's, then throw the goddamn manual out.

I now know there's a strange sort of freedom in just letting stuff go. I moved recently, and I threw away so much shit, and sold so much else. Things that I'd been keeping for sentimental reasons got me several hundred dollars from a second-hand shop, which helped during the move.

MaddingtonFair ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:52:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I should be neither seen nor heard, no one wants to hear what I have to say, keep my opinions to myself, ALWAYS respect your elders and the ONLY thing I have to offer the world is my youth/virginity and when that's gone, NO ONE will want to know me, bc no one outside the family is a good person. Well, turns out few inside the fam are good people either, so I'll take my chances. I'm currently in a job where I have to speak up a lot, it's a struggle.

mellinade ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:52:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I used to eat a lot of bread dough while my mum was cooking when I was younger. To stop me from doing it (which was probably a good thing) she told me that the heat in my stomach would cook the dough into a bread bun and I would have to go to hospital to remove it.

theredcameron ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:54:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad would get frustrated at some of the smallest things very often. He would obsess over forgetting to do something and act like he was an absolute idiot for doing so. Because of this, whenever I make a mistake and am not hard on myself for making said mistake, I would feel like I'm not showing enough concern towards my mistake and need to be harder on myself in order to prevent it from happening again. I've learned that mistakes are mistakes and that being so hard on myself will not do anything to fix any mistakes I make, however the urge to become harder on myself is still there...

Cha0sfox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:01:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't waste food (in context of if you had lots on a plate just eat it all)

ElQuackers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:04:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My Nan told my cousin that pumice stones were made of donkey hooves. It took him nearly 25yrs to br told otherwise

WhiteChickInAsia ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:05:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can say no to people. My parents are people pleasers. I realized I don't have to actually do a bunch of shit I don't want to just because someone else will get butt hurt. Not my job.

simpletontheduck ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:06:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When i was 17 my mum (who looking back was having a breakdown) told me i was the ugliest girl in the world, and no man would ever want me. She then proceeded to list my faults... Big nose, shit hair manish hands, ugly eyes etc etc. That fucked me up big time. Anyone else saying it i would have been, "meh" but coming from the woman who gave birth to me cut through me. I ended up marrying a total wanker just because he was the first man to show interest in me and i thought that would be my only chance to have a relationship.

I now have 3 grown kids (husband walked out many years ago) and I've told them all every single day since they were born, that they are beautiful. I'll never miss a day of telling them that. Thanks for the lesson mum.

FatMaul ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:06:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bigotry - sometimes thoughts still pop in to my head but I am careful not to speak them aloud. I don't want my children indoctrinated whatsoever with these types of thoughts as they will probably get enough on their own from their peers. I try to reinforce that we're almost all the same but what differences we do have make us better as a whole.

tonyspankss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:07:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad is convinced driving with two feet is safer then one foot. He thought me to drive like that when I was 16. My driver instructor laughed at me.

M3n747 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How do you mean, exactly? Pressing each pedal with both feet?

hallowilas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:13:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Not necessarily something they directly taught me, but something that I learned growing up around them.

Never say if you actually like something, never say if you want something, and never say you're having a tough time unless it's been pre-approved.

Like a movie or show that's not on the parent's very short 'good' list? Be prepared to made fun of and ashamed relentlessly for it. Want something the parents see as a waste (which everything is to them)? You're wasting their (even if it's money I earned for myself) money on worthless stupid junk. Struggling and desperately need help? We have it worse and we think you can deal with it, only come to us as an absolute last resort, also we will tease you about it. This lead to me hiding anything and everything from my parents and practically panicking if they ever found any of it out. Of course they berate me for hiding stuff too. Slowly unlearning it with my peers but still struggle to do so with 'authority' figures.

firstbootyonduty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:18:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I should count on always having a car payment to make each month. Wait a minute. No, I don't have to finance the 'nicest' car the bank will extend me a line of credit for over 72 months and pay double its original worth in the end. From now on I'll be holding on to my 'piece of shit' and my $400 a month.

John_Dee_007 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:22:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Probably unintentional racism. I'm Australian, and my mother would curse under her breath about anyone who wasn't Caucasian. But here's the kicker: my mum (mom) is half white/half black. Her mother is from Papua New Guinea. But she'd curse out Asian drivers, despise wogs (a previously derogatory term for middle eastern people that's now a friendly term of endearment), complain about Indians or Pakistanis etc etc.

She grew up in a different world - I get that - whereas I went to a large Sydney school of approx. 2000 students. The majority of whom were not Caucasian. Being white was the minority. Most of my circle of friends were Lebanese, Turkish, Italian, Greek, Vietnamese, Chinese, Japanese, Indian, Pakistani, Thai, Maori, Samoan, Fijian etc etc.

Coming home and listening to her outdated notions of society was exhausting. I had to untrain myself from that mindset.

savagealchemist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:46:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sounds like your mom had a lot of self-hate. Does she chemically straighten her hair? How is her relationship with her PNG relatives? Do people use the N word over there? I've never thought about how this manifested in other places, but it isn't unfamiliar to me as an African American.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:23:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do everything to be normal, or everyone will pick on you.

Blacks people have no respect for white women (most Italians think this for some reason).

Never question authority.

Stupid, stupid, stupid ideas.

flaminx0r ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:25:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I listened to everything they said and never used to question or think about what it meant on the grander scheme of things.

That was many many years ago and having listened to many other people since then have learnt to critique everything I am presented with...I have also done the same with my parents (although largely in my head with them, they don't like hearing what I think about their approach, which is fair enough, everyone is different).

SunsFan97 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:26:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm a bit late but growing up I was very selfish when it comes to kids that went to public school because they are "Poor". I had to unlearn that and damn it was not easy.

twatchops ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:27:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Men and women are totally equal and anything a man can do a woman can do.

I can trace that lesson back to a serious argument or issue in every one of my relationships.

bollywongaloid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:31:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you should care what others think of your life choices

Minaide ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:31:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know why, but I hold my fork in my right and and my knife in my left hand. Neither my parents do this, so I assume I just copied the person (one of my parents) sitting on the other side of the table. I wish they learned me how to eat properly. I haven't unlearned it and probably won't, but damn it's annoying if people notice it and start asking questions.

myyousirname ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:33:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you have to be happy all the time. If I call them and even hint that I have had a bad day or there is even a minor issue to be solved, I am not offered any advice but only told to cheer up and I can sense the bafflement until I appease them by telling them I am fine. This has lead me to have almost debilitating conflict avoidance in my life and arguments can cause me to freeze up. I am trying all the time to be more realistic but it feels like even one conversation with them can set me back.

FoxxyRin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:34:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You don't HAVE to stock up your kitchen like the end of the world is coming. Yeah, it's a good habit to stock up on certain things just to have on hand just in case something happens, but there's no need to take advantage on that sale on canned veggies and buy a dozen cans, especially when you have two dozen already filling a shelf at home. Nor do you have to buy a deep freeze to dedicate to things like hamburger meat, which you buy 10+ pounds of thanks to it being $1.99/lb. Being frugal is one thing, but what my mom does is borderline hoarding, and I'm slowly working on lowering my SO and I's weekly food budget from $100 to $50-ish per week. I'm currently down to about $75 per week, but I still have a tendency to overdo things when meat goes on sale.

ChilliMatt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:38:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Arguing and being a disfunctional family

aamcclel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:38:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to parent.

-TheWhiteRabbit- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:38:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to think like a poor person. Not to ask too many questions, because my father is an all knowing being.

MrsArman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:39:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

sid4913 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:39:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fix the Shit that doesn't work until you whack the fuck out of it.

All my tv remotes are safe since long.

whakikhaki ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:40:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Butterflies are poisonous (told when I was 4 and one landed on my hand). I am still freaked out by them.

sbya ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:41:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Still trying to unlearn the concept of not speaking up - have real trouble with asking people how they are, accepting things like water or food when its offered, holding casual conversaton etc. just because I grew up in an environment where I should be seen and not heard and I always assume I'm going to over-step a boundary or offend somebody - and I often come off as rude. So thats lame haha.

irondal2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:42:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Drinking and driving (got pegged in my early 20s), ignoring of the risk of premarital pregnancy (ex gf scared me in early 20s), general issues of bigotry and close-mindedness. I have been working on the last one for as long as I remember, as it takes a whole lifetime for me as much as it should for everyone.

Njcarey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:43:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents seperated when I was really young so growing up its always been 'the norm' in my mind that families and relationships very rarely work out, I have to fight my cynicism on that so I don't grow bitter.

I WANT TO BELIEVE.

FarewellGalaxy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:45:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents taught me to eat everything on my plate and that it was NOT ok to leave food to be thrown away. They were both poor growing up and in very large families, so they had to fight for every scrap of food they ate. Meanwhile, I grew up as middle class and as an only child so I had more than enough to eat, but they still made the rule that you do not leave the table without finishing your plate - even if you have to eat it for breakfast the next morning. It took me until I was in my 30s to realize that I didn't have to eat to the point of discomfort anymore.

Featherlily ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:45:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it is okay to be hungry after dinner, and that I can eat whenever I'm hungry (no matter the time) And if I don't eat something, I don't have to hide it and go through the trash to make sure it can't be seen.

f_sharp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:46:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That having a university degree is the way to health and success. Got a degree, got a job, hated it and not so well payed. Quited. Got a job I am passionated about and I am much happier now earning more ar les the same.

rdj262 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:48:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That wool is itchy. No mom, only cheap wool is itchy.

cosmicosmo4 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:48:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"A pint's a pound, the whole world round."

Turns out it's FUCKING NOT. A pint of water weighs 1.04375 pounds. A fluid ounce of water weighs 1.04375 ounces. What the fuck, England (and Dad)?

farfaraway ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:49:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to be an alcoholic.

ninja edit: if drinking has taken over your life and you want to find another way, come join us in /r/stopdrinking.

NoShftShck16 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:49:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom always told me money would never be an issue and we'd always have it. I had zero financial sense or responsibility growing up. Then my dad when deeper into alcohol, cheated, walked out on us and took out a second mortgage out on the house and a put a lean on our family's cape house.

I was smart enough to avoid getting a credit card until I could control myself, aka until I met my wife, but I was regularly blowing paychecks in a night, overdrawing my account by hundreds of dollars, etc.

KP_Wrath ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:50:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They taught me racism and bigotry. Figured it was a shitty path at some point in the line. Couldn't see the "better" and certainly couldn't see how judging others for their actions or trying to restrict actions that don't affect me was right. I always found it interesting that the most impoverished people around me basically clung to "at least we're white," despite living in the ghettos and being in the same shitty socio-economic situation as their black neighbors.

endlezzdrift ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:02:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow, there is hope for us yet. Thank you.

EnRedditWeTrust ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:52:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Anything involving black people

EatYourCheckers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:55:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That traditional doctors are not to be trusted and they are all just mouth-pieces for BIG PHARMA.

I have slowly learned to accept a doctor's advice, though I still do some of my own research. But unlike my mother I know how to tell the difference between real medical research and conspiracy theories.

maxiesnax ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:03:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not to talk to strangers, life would be pretty lonely if I didn't unlearn that.

jose_von_dreiter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:03:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Just ignore the bullies!"

No, Mom. That only kept them coming at me. For years. Fuck you, Mom. Burn in hell.

SanguineThought ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:05:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have come to realize that my parents were isolationist nut jobs that know pretty much zero about society, social interactions, hygiene, nutrituon, exercise, health, home/car maintenance and repaire, economics, culture, cooking, art, music, or how to raise kids. I have had to unlearn everything I learned from them, which wasn't much since I maybe had a dozen conversations with them before I was 20.

Out of my 4 siblings and myself I'm the only one not taking massive amounts of self medication. Half of them have served prision terms, 3/5 have spent time homeless, I'm the only one to raise my own kids.

Some gems we had to relearn : Brushing your teeth makes them fall out Flouride is poision that will MAKE your teeth rot Hate the rich (they are greedy) Hate the poor (they are lazy) We are all going to hell for everything! Get a B on a test, time to pray in tongues cuz u iz going to hell. Like a girl? Going to hell because GIRLS ARE EVIL!!!!! Get a job and work your way up is the best way. College is a scam for suckers. We can't afford it anyway. (Didn't even know Financial aid was a thing until my 20s.)

YEAY for small towns and crazy parents who live miles from any neighbors!!

JonTheBest ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:08:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you can be friends with everyone

Sometimes you just fucking hate certain people

tjmcsquiggles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:08:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sometimes physical violence is necessary and warranted.

I always heard "never hit anyone." I was so afraid of getting in trouble for hitting someone that I would never fight back or stand up for myself if someone threatened to "beat me up." At around 12 years of age a friend told me his father said "sometimes you just don't have an option and have to hit people. I'll back you up if you get in a fight if it's for a good reason." Many years later, I can't say I've been in many altercations since, but that lesson was a core change to my philosophy on right and wrong.

Some people just need to be hit, laws and social norms be damned.

penatbater ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:08:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That sometimes shit hits the fan and it's nobody's fault. The insane need to blamr someone or something is so infuriating.

Also the need to be correct all the tjme, or perceived as correct. Ugh

Bladed9 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:08:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That fried chicken is good for you.

TeasAndSilver ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:09:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be quiet and out of the way.

xbtdev ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:10:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mum taught me how to spend all of my income and then spend more.

HopsDrinker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:12:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That fats in food are bad for you.

RudegarWithFunnyHat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:12:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

their landline phone number I suppose

kayipmm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:12:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

they told me if you want smoke and drunk that's okay you can

TheSabberer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:13:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everything that is cooked needs to be eaten. Comes from their parents, who survived WW2 and rebuilding as kids.

To this day I sometimes feel sick from eating but feel the need to finish the food. I try to cook less to go around that.

-GremlinDVa- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:14:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To eat everything on my plate

kvdence ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:14:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Money is a problem.

tombah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:15:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Growing up in an Italian home- I used to think "Polack" was an appropriate word for Polish people. Like Polack neighborhood. I'm 25 and I figured out it was an ethnic slur a few months ago. I used it all of the time too.

ChoptankLive ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:19:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a Polish person, I let you off the hook of guilt. We call each other that all the time. The key with this and any other "term of endearment" is to be clear that those words don't drive your decisions. Sure, using them less is a good thing, but not letting categories like that move you in your life decisions.

tombah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:01:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly, I'd just casually drop a "this is a good Polack neighborhood" Or "There's a good Polack deli over there"

It was never a bad thing to me. Thanks for making me feel good

M3n747 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:36:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To clarify: "Polak" is the Polish word for a Polish man ("Polka" for a woman) and "Polack" is a loanword in English that took on a negative meaning. Being a Polish Polack myself, I'd be more upset about mixing two languages in one sentence like that. ;)

greyskyeyes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:15:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fat is bad for you.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:26:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, yes it is, both getting fat and the strain it puts on your heart.

greyskyeyes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:18:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, but dietary fat is both good for your body and necessary for your brain.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:04:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

oh sorry, yeah, I thought you were saying being fat

greyskyeyes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:59 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A common mistake, and that's what leads to the misconception. Eating fat doesn't necessarily cause being fat.

monn_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:20:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cleaning things with shampoo

ThrowAwayy8468 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:23:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family taught me that any form of hygiene was bad. I didn't actually own a tooth brush until I was 12. Pairing this up with me drinking tons of soda every day (they also taught me to eat and drink literally everything I could so I'm still trying to lose weight) but I actually have like 3% of my enamel left and my teeth are almost clear. I'm 19 now and have been brushing my teeth religiously for years now

clarkyto ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:24:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To always be honest, speak your mind and be assertive and not hide your emotions.

Not a good thing... Specifically at work

ChoptankLive ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:58:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a business owner with employees, they are dead on correct about the first 3. Just keep the emotion out of it. Don't let emotion drive your action because once you start, it is hard to control and then rational common sense goes out the window. I always want the first 3 never #4 from my employees. Once you establish that, others know you will be straight forward with them and will seek you out for input and advice, including a good boss/employer. Just remember to be civil and polite ("that's stupid" or "what dumbass wants to do it that way" are off the table). Honesty and direct communication are not a license to be rude or to eschew compassion. Those that do use honest and direct labels to hide their narcissistic tendencies.

clarkyto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:03:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

People think I'm not nice, some would say annoying and rude, but I'm trying to work at it every day but it's so hard not to think before you speak.

malkavian9mm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:26:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents are country people who love to read mostly educational stuff like National Geographic's. Due to them living in the no where midwest they have thick corn people accents and have made up their own enunciation of "big" or strange looking words. My mother likes to makeup definitions of words too so I sometimes use words inappropriately. A menagerie is a collection of animals like in a zoo, not a word to describe what a collage is. The word nuclear, nu-cue-lure is said like new-clear. My parents wanted me to have a large vocabulary because I am dyslexic it's just said wrong and used incorrectly. Now I get the pleasure of telling my parents that my friend is a deaf man not a death man, lol.

benschweiz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:26:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was always taught that people from other cultures/religions are inherently immoral, depressed, stupid, and hate you

TeaL3af ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:26:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That violence doesn't solve anything. That's true in the adult world, mostly, but school wold have gone much more smoothly if certain people got punched in the mouth.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:27:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Redneck step father convinced me to not go in the garden while on my period or I will kill the plants. Mom insisted you must "rinse the starch off the pasta after cooking it". Everyone wears yard sale and flea market used clothes. Why get a new car, you can just keep buying low price used cars, because they are all going to give out at some point or another.

aidylbroccoli ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:27:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That everyone is out to get you. They are pretty paranoid.

vernonmarsh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:27:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Follow your dreams--I finally realized that dreams are totally incoherent fantasies constructed by the sleeping brain. I couldn't even figure them out, much less follow them.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:28:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That yelling at a kid to not be neurotic does not in fact make them less neurotic.

hk135 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:29:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Life is fair and working hard will guarantee prosperity

jdschultze ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:30:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The importance of buying high-quality products. My dad is sometimes obsessively frugal, where he will basically always just pick out the very cheapest of a certain product. So instead of buying 1 $5 binder for a college class that'll last me 4 years, he'll buy a shitty $2 binder that falls apart after a semester. Same thing with our lawn trimmer. We have to replace our shitty $70 lawn trimmer every two years, but if he just threw down $200 and bought a super nice trimmer, he wouldn't have to replace it for 20 years.

M3n747 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's because our brains perceive an immediate gain as more valuable than a future gain, even if the future gain is greater. So when faced with a choice like in your examples, our brains tell us we will gain more by dropping less money at once on something, even if that builds up to a higher cost of repeat purchases over time.

Cobra613 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:31:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That choosing to spend your spare time inside playing computer games is a violation against nature that one should be extremely ashamed of.

Also that if you don't have a university degree you are by definition a waste of a person

superkickpalooza ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:32:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

there is more to cooking than a microwave. i didnt know how to use an oven or stove until i was 20 years old and a girlfriend had to show me.

you mean i can bake chicken strips and make them crispy? hoooly shit.

bionboy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:33:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They taught me that the correct way to store things was to horde them.

danhakimi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:34:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That dogs are terrible, dirty filth monsters that will destroy the world, or something.

I'm still not really comfortable around them... this will take some effort.

Cjnovi25 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:34:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Save nothing, spend it on things you want and enjoy your money.

AtlanticSeaSalt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:36:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My MIL taught my husband that special needs people couldnt go swimming because their bottoms float and heads sink.. he didn't realise the truth til high school..

JBoneNZ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:36:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In the beginning god... blah blah blah

nk1104 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:37:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom believed that sleeping with a fan on could kill you. Since my family was cheap and didn't use AC until absolutely necessary, I consequently had a lot of uncomfortably hot nights... Or took the risk, put the fan on, and hoped there would be another tomorrow.

Uberhipster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:38:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hating myself

tinkafoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:38:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't worry about paying off all those credit cards. You can wipe them out just by applying for bankruptcy.

enoch15 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:39:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

European cars don't have blinkers.

LittleOnyx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:40:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to be a complete and absolute bitch.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:42:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That Genesis is a blow-by-blow account of how the universe came into existence, and anyone who denies that is deluded or has an IQ of 80.

QuietRulrOfEvrything ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:44:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Get a good job and play the lottery. Hasn't worked for them yet. Lesson Learned: Never take financial advice from poor people!

luthorhuss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:45:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That my morals and views, particularly those of people with alternative lifestyles and minorities, should come from the Bible. Not only did this try to force me to be a bigot and racist, it left me clueless on how to handle situations not specifically covered. A good friend of mine gender transitioned later in life while another has an open marriage and is bisexual. Suddenly, I went smartest friend to idiot searching for answers from 2000 year sand nomad doctrines. Now, as icing on the cake, I get to be reminded of how vulgar this upbringing was as I sit quietly and listen to banter about Obama at every family reunion. Thx Mom and Dad.

neonyellow_r6guy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:46:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

TL/DR: Mind reading.

You see, my popps is a tinkerer, an Engineer by profession. So he knows everything there is to know about putting things together, taking them apart, and then doing this 3-4 times until it works.

Every job was a "2 man job." So, as a kid to this day, my brothers and I always had to help him. We begrudgingly help even though he never actually asked us if we could or would. That's another one I had to unlearn. If you need help, ask for it. Don't expect any one to know you need help.

Anyway, so we help dad get tools, hold the flash light, turn a wrench, cut 2x4s, what ever was considered the 2nd persons job. And, if you didn't know what he was thinking before he did, I.e. the right wrench or tool or flashing the light at the right spot, he'd get angry, fly off the handle, yell, scream, and swear "at the job" not you, of course.

Then after all was finished, generally 3 hrs after his original estimate, he'd say, "you know I'm not mad at you, right?"

My wife's dad is 100% total opposite. He's taught me it's okay not to know what needs to be done, what tool to do it with, or when those tools are needed. I constantly apologize to him and he's always looking at me like I'm crazy.

Lava-MD ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:47:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mormonism

dlguswl96 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:48:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That your life/happiness ends the minute you get married. In my mom's defense, her marriage to my dad was horrible.

dhoffnun ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:48:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Intense paranoia and condescending aloofness...

seavargas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:49:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The people on jeopardy get study guides before the show because no one could actually know that much

ZipItBuddy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:49:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eat everything on your plate

morefood ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:51:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's not okay to express your emotions and thoughts. I'm still very submissive to men and probably always will be. This also leads to pent up resentment that bursts into an emotional breakdown on occasion.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:51:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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AecostheDark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:31:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or the opposite. Sometimes we go too far the other way.

IronBear76 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:52:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Excessive paranoia

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:53:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to pronounce English words, my mums Chinese.

XxxGoldDustWomanxxX ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:54:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That continually taking more than the max dosage of any medicine will make you get better faster. I'm glad I unlearned that by an early age...

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:54:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That Alchohal and Pork is haraam ๐Ÿ˜

ab2160 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:56:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Marrying for religion

walstibs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:58:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This post is the gift that keeps on giving. Thanks OP

Loreki ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:59:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Off-topic a bit: anyone else skimming trying to find their siblings in here?

BayouByrnes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:03:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eating standing up was dangerous to your health.

TheySayImZack ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:03:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They taught me never to fight back physically. If someone was hurting me, walk the other way.

Ultimately, I think deep down they were trying to protect themselves from the pain of their child possibly getting injured in a fight. But what they did by doing so was create a mini-culture with me that I was never - ever - to fight. "Fight or Flight" became "Flight". I think part of that school of thought also led to me become more of an introvert than an extrovert.

It wasn't until after high school when I learned that there there are times you fight, and times you run. All joking aside, I have Kenny Rogers to partially thank for that. Let me explain: I used Amtrak a bit to go home from school. I wasn't a drinker at the time, so I'd just sit there for 4 hours and listen to music on the train. For whatever reason, one day I was paying especially close attention to the radio as I flipped through the dial to find stations. (This is 25 years ago, so there were Sony Discman's but no iPods, so FM radio it was for me.) The Gambler came on a station I picked up out of Trenton. "You gotta know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away and no when to run." I took those lyrics to heart that day, and I just thought it was great advice. It was odd too because the song involves a guy taking a train ride. A little spooky.

I don't want to say that after that moment things were different, but things did change as I allowed them to over time. I became more vocal, I sought out arguments for issues I was passionate about, and I picked my physical battles.

I'm 41 now, and I'm sure I'm still my parent's "little boy". I have a little boy of my own now, and my advice for him will be different than the advice I gave my parents.

One thing to take from this story is that with parenting, there's no right way to do it. There's a few clear-cut wrong ways that should be obvious, but there is no manual on how to raise a child, no one real authority you can ask. As a kid, I grew up thinking my parent's knew everything. It was only as an adult, and now especially as a Father, that no one really knows what the hell we're doing. You try to make the best choices for your kids, you do what you think is right and you make adjustments as you go along.

SurlySmudge ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:03:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That my health doesn't matter in comparison to my (at the time) disabled father.

Totally fucked me up over the years, I still struggle to go to doctors or even take care of myself when I'm ill. :/

Inferisrhiakath ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:08:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nutrition. I grew up drinking diet pop and eating things like hot pockets, bologna, etc.

When I got pregnant I figured out just because it's food doesn't mean you should eat it.

Inferisrhiakath ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:08:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nutrition. I grew up drinking diet pop and eating things like hot pockets, bologna, etc.

When I got pregnant I figured out just because it's food doesn't mean you should eat it.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:11:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That buying cosmetics is not a luxury. It's important to create a self esteem. My mom never used them and everytime I wanted a cream or some fancy clothes she would say we are poor so I should stop wanting those things because they are only for rich people.

Also I am still yet to unlearn the extreme cautious of my mom. Because of that I grew up afraid of risking and I thought it was wise, but not really, it can be cripling.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:11:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I guess smoking. But I quit that 2 years ago. As far as how to live, I think they did a good job.

applecoreeater ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:12:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Still trying to unlearn this, but the idea that you have to finish everything on your plate. I truly believe this is one of the causes of my overeating - I have real difficulty throwing food out even if it's gone bad.

TheSnowPhoenix ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:13:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If it's family, you have to take their abuse.

Email was the worst invention for my mother because she could really take the time think out how she wanted to word hateful shit. I call them nastygrams. Mom even stalked me to get my email address to spew her hate.

Dad was physically abusive, but I was supposed to love him anyway. Once I figured out ignoring him entirely (every word he said fell on deaf ears) enraged him to ignoring me back and not hitting me, I realized it took his power away. Of course I was a bitch for not talking to my father.

I finally put my foot down in my mid-twenties, and refused to take their shit anymore. I am estranged from most of my family as a result because they really believe you have to take it.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:13:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Compulsive wasteful shopping. My parents had a lot of disposable income and just always bought stuff. It was an incredibly hard habit to unlearn.

winksgeek ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:14:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents convinced my older brother that cotton candy evaporates if you leave the bag open to cover up that they'd eaten it while he was sleeping. He believed it until his mid 30s and it no longer made sense while he explained it to other people

Benjamin_Sky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:14:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom loved to talk shit about people's appearance or mannerisms. Usually from a distance or a couple feet away walking by them. I thought this was normal behavior and was meant to be funny.

Made some friends in the Navy. And they were absolutely mortified of the shit I'd say. So I stopped it all together.

Went to visit my mom and she was at it again. I was super annoyed now that it was apparent of how fucked up it is. I get into an argument with her over it. She starts crying.

Psycho bitch. She is so fucking rude and doesn't even care.

_Not_Bruce_Wayne_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:15:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That my feelings don't matter. I grew up in a very emotionally invalidating home, and any time someone's feelings were hurt, they were ridiculed and told to "get a thicker skin". It really made having romantic relationships a struggle.

pieces_840 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:17:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Most things they taught me about dating and relationships have been all wrong, and it's really made things difficult. The worst, so far, was the idea that any form of dating equates to a serious long-term relationship, particularly once you're out of high school. When I was dating my first boyfriend (I was 20), they were so convinced we were going to get married. I believed them. We dated for four months. I cringe looking back now at how serious I tried to make it so early in, but that's what I was taught was meant to happen.

stringplucker196 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:19:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family put me down. I was a very insecure kid, overweight, bad skin, you name it. My whole family would either give me bullshit compliments or put me down, call me fat, whatever. Especially my sister, she is very attractive and I never was. I was just the quiet, smart and insecure brother (just like a damn movie). I am still haunted by insecurity and anxiety till this day but I am a lot better now, I have improved myself and come out of my shell (thanks to college and good friends). If I ever become a parent, that is the only thing I promise not to do. I have had a great life but thats the one part of their parenting I will always hate, I hope they regret being bad parents in that way.

Joeshbag ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:20:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've had to learn that God is not going to punish me for my wrong doing by making my relationships fail and my life fall apart. Also, members of the LGBTQ community are not hedonistic freaks. Oh, and not everything has to be handled through passive aggression.

Man, I used to think my family was just a little prejudiced, but bigots might be a better term.

BigbyWolf343 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:23:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Conservative ideals.

Oresan_Fells ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:25:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For me it was how to not be dirt poor. I learned so many bad habits from growing up super poor. From being afraid to answer the phone, to not having a bank account. I had to learn how to save money and use a credit card. I just bought a house. The whole process is a massive stress ball waiting to pop, now imagine being afraid to sign papers or talk to people in suits...

It's a process, I'm still unlearning.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:25:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God is real, black people are inferior, homeopathy is legitimate, science is untrustworthy... fun childhood. Fox news was on like, 24/7 in my house.

DarksteelPenguin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:26:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

TIL my parents were awesome at parenting. Never learned bullshit. Never been abused. I feel so lucky.

DeCoyAbLe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:28:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Speak only when spoken to. and children are meant to be seen, not heard.

I used to wonder why I felt so bullied and unappreciated but then I realized that I never really spoke to anyone. I never really learned how to engage someone in dialog. I had no friends (still don't) and I had to teach myself how to stand up for myself to get noticed.

It was hard to learn those things and I missed out on learning normal social queues. I'm still not very good at dialog and small talk as a result but at least now I know to speak up.

rahtin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:31:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That Alaska was sold by Canada to the US during the Cold War so Russia wouldn't invade.

desolate_daydreams ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:32:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to hate myself.

GunMunky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:35:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Basically everything about taking care of a dog.

My parents readily used negative reinforcement, corporal punishment, and straight up yelling as 'tools' to 'control' our dogs when I was growing up.

Consequently all the poor little fuckers ended up with shredded nerves and bugger all training.

Now that I have a dog of my own and I'm doing things the right way it's becoming shockingly clear to me just how bad a job they did of it themselves.

ChickTesta ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:36:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That steaks had to be cooked to Well Done.

eggshellmoudling ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:36:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was raised Jehovah's Witness so... Very nearly everything.

BlakeCutter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:37:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Try not to be such an aggressive doer of things. I grew up in a house where you trained to be an executer of ideas. So you mention you want to wrestle in school. Boom lets develop a training plan schedule and goals. You mentioned the house needs a new door? Boom lets schedule out the time, get our list of materials listed and plan an early start. My dad made it a game, we would time ourselves try to beat the timing. So growing up I thought it was fun . Great for my career a little rough for my marriage. Especially if your partner is a dreamer who mentions off the cuff ideas or things she likes. Wife: wouldn't it be nice if we have the gazebo in this magazine. Me: sure would, if we cut expenses by 10% I think we would have the money saved in exactly 3 weeks. We can get all the materials on site by day x, I will take one vacation day and bang it out in about 12 total hours over 2 days. My wife said she could see me getting all revved up like a race horse. Then told me it became exhausting and never thought she could talk to me about any ideas or dreams she had.

asyouwissssh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:39:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I got my first period (4th grade) my mom told me my kidneys were shedding.

ChadTooBad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:40:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You don't have to finish the food on your plate if you're already full.

rav0o5 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:40:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents (we are an Indian family) taught 40 to be spelled as FoUrty and even when teachers taught it other way (kindergarten years) . During 2,3rd I had to un learn it as I was loosing marks and my teacher thought I was spelling it incorrectly to mess with her. I didn't know the word, "naturally" till then so couldn't explain her either amd she was such a person who didn't listen to others anyway. Then I got punished to write forty, forty times for 1 week. At home, when I had to do homework, my parents would insist on writing it as FoUrty and I couldn't say NO to them. After that parents were called to the principles office and finally I was saved from fury of parents and teachers.

RChamy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:40:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I would only matter for them if I was a perfect student.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:42:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yelling is the appropriate way to deal with things.

jimmyjamespak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:42:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mormonism.

Sheri-jutt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:42:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nothing. My parents lives serve as a perfect example for me. They had their flaws like everyone else but I wouldn't change a thing. Not a single thing. Very proud of my family

SoggyLostToast ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:42:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I had to do everything they said and that their approval was more important than my happiness.

score_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:43:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To distrust everyone.

When they operate from that position you don't learn the skill of determining how someone is trustworthy.

dougstoner ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:44:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eating steaks well done. My entire childhood, they always cooked ask our steaks well done and always told me anything under well is gross and will make you sick. I'll never forget my first time trying a really good medium rare steak. It changed my life.

pinkybear420 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:44:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom told me I was allergic to chocolate, cause she didn't want to share. I believed that till I was a teen. It made working at Godiva really easy.

cmhowell1990 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:44:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom told me that ginger root would bite me if I picked it up. I didn't touch it until I was in college. Apparently, she told me that to make me stop picking things up at the store. She's still laughing about me having a weird fear of them.......

slowshot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:50:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sex is bad.

pixelmeow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:54:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I helped my boyfriend at the time unlearn his hatred of macaroni and cheese. I offered to cook dinner and told him I was going to fix that along with hot dogs (I grew up with macaroni and cheese dinners including hot dogs and pork and beans). He said that was fine.

I served up dinner and he had a strange look on his face. He started eating, and stuffed himself so full he could hardly move. He was so amazed by how good dinner was. Now, I'm not a great cook, but one thing I can make the hell out of is macaroni and cheese. It's one of my favorite meals.

Come to find out, he'd grown up with macaroni and cheese being that boxed stuff that Kraft makes. He hated it. But he agreed to have it for dinner. His funny look was over what my macaroni and cheese looked like. He was so surprised by how much he liked it that he just couldn't stop eating.

My macaroni and cheese is very simple. Boil the noodles, but not too soft. Drain, add milk and butter enough to thoroughly wet the noodles without having too much liquid in the bottom of the pan. There should be about 1/4 inch of buttery milk in the bottom of the pan (more if it's a really big pan). Use Cracker Barrel brand (not the restaurant) extra sharp cheddar (not the white kind, that's good but only if you can't get the orange) cut into fairly small pieces. A lot of it. Add to noodles, stir until melted. The mixture should be saturated in cheese so that it sticks to every noodle. Serve. YUM. Now I want some.

edit: one night when my daughter wanted it for dinner, I used spaghetti noodles. It was amazing.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:56:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The idea that other people may be smarter or learn more quickly, but I can work harder than all of them and be more successful.

It sounds like a good thought, but it caused me to have major boundary issues my first few years in the workforce and put a strain on my marriage

chenistry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:56:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom taught me that bee stings were like chicken pox... You only get them once. Imagine my surprise the second time I got stung... and the third and oh, the fourth.

Miss_Pent ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:56:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's okay to approach people and strike up a conversation. I can still hear my father saying "Only speak when spoken to." Looking back perhaps that's why I didn't talk to kids in school when growing up. I didn't have many friends.

MitchNYM ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:57:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Conservatism.

Jaybones73 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:57:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

Snoop_Giraffe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:57:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother told me that you can't drink milk with cherry pie. I believed this most of my life, until I got laughed at by saying it out loud.

I suspect one night we had run out of milk and rather than admit it she concocted this ruse.

MacSteele13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:59:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Accepting welfare instead of working

banedead ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:00:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad taught me that, if it didn't benefit me, don't do it.

That mentality is fucking hard to shake off btw.

Thatoneguythatsnot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:00:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That drinking every day starting at noon was normal.

kneaders ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:02:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm worthless

mattrox217 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:04:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ugh late again. Growing up, my dad told me that the word Rafiki (the name of the baboon in The Lion King) meant "stinky feet". I legitimately thought this was true well into my pre-teens.

SEOfficial ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:05:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Submissive nice-guy behavior

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:05:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

That pretending like everything is the same after your younger sister dies (I was 12) and that no, only "those" people need to go to counseling.

That no, you don't need a break from college. We know it's only your first semester and we just filed for divorce, just focus on school and it'll all work out! It's not like you'll be home with all the turmoil anyway...You can't screw up that 4-year plan!!

edit: words and tense

nucular_mastermind ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:05:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm smart and will amount to anything in life.

Took a good, hard dose of reality to get that notion out of my system!

BeornPlush ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:05:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Judging people. We'd be in a parking lot and my mom would point at someone looking a bit worn down or unkempt and say "Look at that. It's not a he or she, it's a that."

Meeting all sorts of interesting people who weren't always prim and proper made me appreciate that appearances are only one side of people, at one fleeting point in time.

Porcelainporthole ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:06:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you can trust the police

GoobyMaster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:10:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

ZoiSarah ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:12:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

All of the 'dangerous' things couldn't do sound the house. Even though later I proved them false with science, my mom is still convinced she is right. Like flicking a light switch too fast will cause a fire, anything touching the base boards well catch on fire (replaced some base boards a few years back and I had the experts explain it too but she is still in disbelief), that microwave ovens will not hurt you if you open the door immediately after its done, open peanut butter does not need to go into the fridge, etc

deadlybydsgn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:12:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This thread reinforces my thankfulness toward my parents. They weren't perfect, but good grief, some other parents sound harmfully dumb or downright cruel toward their children.

The only real negative I can think of is that my parents didn't really encourage me to be ambitious. And it's not even that they discouraged it -- I just wasn't particularly driven. If I'm honest about it, that probably has more to do with video games than parenting. They're sometimes like a soft drug that "makes you ok with being just ok."

XXxLookAtThesexXX ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:13:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the darks spots on the moon were astronauts

Avogadro101 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:13:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Finances.

My parents always gave me advice when I was growing up about money. How to spend the money I get and live in the moment and only save when you intend to buy stuff. Don't even get me started about credit cards.

When they lost their house and had to ask their 19 year old son to help pay rent was the minute I realized I needed to not listen to them.

Put myself through college, got a job paying over 100k a year and they still try to give me advice. "Why do you put money into a 401k and IRA and HSA? They are just using your money!"

I never argue with them, they are too stubborn. I told them essentially because I don't want to work till I die.

When I told them I bought a car and paid it off in a year, they asked why pay it off early.

There are a bunch of examples. The best thing I ever did was meeting the financial advisor for my girlfriends family at the time. He charged me a 12 pack of PBR and helped me with understanding finances. It was so helpful.

WhatImAGirl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:14:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You have to humiliate and mock people to get them to do what you want. Still working on that one. Having the sweetest SO I've ever had is helping. She doesn't deserve my cruelty, which makes me realize no one does.

DearYouu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:16:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother told me I was allergic to the sun so I'd never go outside without massive amounts of sunscreen. Which I appreciate because I am 35 but look 20. She also told me I look terrible in white.

moontrooper ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:16:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you don't have to have clutter everywhere. I guess I didn't realize my mom was a bit of a hoarder growing up.

I thought it was totally normal to have every corner of your house have something in it.

user_name_unknown ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:17:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

That it's not ok for a father to show affection for his son. I can count how many times he said he loved me on one hand, and I'm not sure I remember him ever hugging me. When he did say he loved me it was usually a "we love you" kind of as if love was between my mom and him, never just him. He's been dead for three years now, so our relationship only exists in my memory and can never be fixed. I try everyday to hug my boys and tell them I love them as much as I can.

Totalthunderz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:19:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mothers side of the family are all racist and homophobic, after being in high school for a few years I realised that those views were wrong and unfair so I started making my own opinions of others.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:19:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They called that Parmesan cheese you sprinkle over your food sprinkle cheese.

No on told me.

RandomPanda0 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:21:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That interacting with something means you enjoy it, and not interacting with something means you hate it.

So, if my dad ever buys snacks, and I eat those snacks, that means that I enjoy those snacks. There's simply no notion of "I don't particularly enjoy the snack, but I'll still eat it because it is in the pantry."

The moment I choose not to eat the snack? "Hey, why aren't you eating the snack anymore? I thought you liked those!" As if, somehow, preferences never, ever change.

ToxicVoids ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:22:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That adults can do whatever they want....no you can't.

This was probably her excuse for being able to drink and be an alcoholic.

Revlotion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:22:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To never talk to strangers. Some of the greatest conversations I've had with people are with random people I'll more than likely never see/talk to again

Chopst1xx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:24:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That alcohol is bad for you.

Kenendralee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:25:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I learned to deal with serious medical stuff as kind of a normality. Chopped off your finger? I'll get the glue and duct tape and when I'm sure you won't bleed all over my car we'll get you to the hospital.

Cut the bottom of your foot? Here I'll butterfly bandage it shut and we'll wrap it. If I take you to the doctor they'll wanna put stitches in it because of the placement and you don't want that do you?? (I was afraid of needles and did NOT want that at all)

My mom got a serious brain injury 6 years ago and she was told she'd never walk again, her response to that was "fuck you, watch this!" And she sat up the next day and got out of bed (albeit she did have to relearn to walk so it wasn't pretty watching her do that)

Recently my boyfriend was diagnosed with cancer and my response was "is he gonna die? No? Then this is stressful but it's not the worst thing ever, so we'll just keep going." I no longer react to serious stuff with a normal response and I STILL hate needles

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:25:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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upsydasy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:38:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Google narcissistic mothers. You'll see that you're not alone in this experience.

SpartanDoubleZero ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:25:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Belittling your children for the slightest mess up, including my special needs brother. It took me having a daughter of my own to realize it, that there's no need to scream and ridicule just because you spilled your drink or dropped a plate, that just instills fear and doesn't allow for any real growth. I'm still working on a plan to get my brother out of that toxic house hold whether I take him or if he goes to a group home, I'll bite the bullet and pay if I need to.

JohnnyWhiteguy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:26:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can't believe I haven't seen this yet...

Racism.

My parents were incredibly racist and homophobic to the point that if I tried to have any black or gay friends, I would get scolded and ridiculed. Eventually I became more like them in my late teens and hated many people for no good reason. Eventually I came to my senses and realized this was BS, and I am a much better person for it. Unfortunately they babysit my kids a lot, so I have to constantly make sure my kids aren't being programmed this way. Sadly, they're really not bad people overall, they're just stuck in a set of ideals that is far outdated.

orthotraumamama ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:27:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Have this issue with my grandparents. Have to constantly remind them my nephew is mixed and they need to stfu.

SinkTube ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:27:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

loud = right

wooberries ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:28:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This isn't quite the same, but my older brother told me that male ejaculate was influenced by the color of their skin. White guy, white cum; black guy, dark brown cum; etc. etc...

You'd be surprised how long it takes you to realize you've been lied to when the lie pertains to something no one ever bothers to state directly. I think I realized he lied to me when I was 15 and started watching (more) porn.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:28:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've been trying to stress that buying something even slightly expensive will last longer and perform better than something you got from the dollar store. Parents still don't believe me and I thought that way for a while.

pprbckwrtr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:29:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cost over comfort. I know that sometimes it's better to spend less money on things because of convenience. Like I still won't go see a movie full priced. It's not important to go on a Saturday night, I can wait until Tuesday and pay half price because of the deal at my local theater. But we live in Florida and my mom cannot understand why we would want to spend so much money to keep the house cool. And we keep it on 78, so it's not even that cool. But she thinks it's ridiculous to turn it below 82. And gets mad when I won't stay at her place because I will literally drown in my own sweat. And tells my sisters that she hopes when they move out they won't be so "irrsponsible and careless" with their money by turning down the ac.

AllWaysKicking ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:29:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To eat everything on my plate.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:32:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother told me that when backing up a car you are not supposed to look behind you, you should keep your head forward and just use your mirrors. Pretty sure the lady who did my driving test wanted to punch me in the face when i started flying backwards down a residential street without looking back.

WhiskeyCup ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:32:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That whatever accomplishments I achieve is because I'm lucky. Work had nothing to do with it. Sure, luck plays a part in landing a good job but that doesn't mean the hard work put into it should be ignored. Partly out of interest and partly for my academic field, I'm proficient in different languages at different levels (some fluently, some only conversationally). I'm not talented or a savant or anything, I just worked hard for it. So when parents, or anyone, says I must be "gifted" at languages, it feels like they're belittling the hours and hours I put into memorizing vocabulary and painstakingly listening to podcasts and try to understand anything from it.

Maceonline ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:32:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wind farms are not for clearing fog.

medsandmoodswings ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:36:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So many things... I was raised by an abusive farther who instilled many unethical values in me when I was young. He also never really "taught" me anything. At 23 years old I'm having to learn how to love myself, how to trust my own opinion, how to stand up for myself... I'm having to learn what things I like and don't like because when I was living with him I was never able to truly be a person. I was his shadow and I liked what he liked. He would buy all my clothes from the men's section at walmart (a pack of 5 or 6 grey shirts and 7 pants for each day of the week), so now paying anything more than 10 dollars for an item of clothing terrifies me for whatever reason. My dad had the money, but he'd spend it on parts for his boats or trucks. I just felt like I wasn't worth the cost of the clothing... it's a depressing thing trying to learn how to be human instead of a polite robot who does what she's told. At the same time the struggle is worth it.

magicdance66 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:39:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being Mormon. And feeling like I could never do be good enough, thinking men were superior than me, and that if I prayed I would be safe.

Everyday it's a struggle to get rid of that LDS girl I used to be. I spend a lot of time trying to improve my way of thinking, and believe in myself.

llllamapajamas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:40:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to say chipotle.

GingerAlien ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:42:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I need to automatically respect anyone who is older than me or in an authoritative position above me. Fuck that. Respect is something that is earned and if you act like a dick-hole I'm not going to give it to you.

mafia_j ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:47:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I try to look at it the other way around. I try to give everyone respect until they earn the opposite.

GingerAlien ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:29:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well yeah. I don't treat people like shit and make them prove something to me. But I also think respect is something you earn through your actions and how you behave towards others. I try to be polite and kind to everybody no matter what but I can do that without having any respect for you.

acaleyn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:42:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We struggled financially when I was a kid, so no matter what I asked for, the answer was always, "No! We can't afford it!" or "The one you have is still good!" or some variation on, "If we buy that, we won't have enough for rent/electric bill/gas." The one thing I could persuade them on every once in a while was a 'treat' at the grocery store - but anything else? Hard no, across the board.

Not the worst idea in the world for a family on a very tiny budget, but as an adult with my own money, I have the hardest time buying myself anything. I sorta have to psych myself up for any purchase over $20, even if it's something I know I need and is worth the money. Every purchase is a reenactment of "You don't really need that - you just want to spend money you don't have." The one thing I can spend money on? Food. I can splurge on fancy food and not bat an eye, but replacing a coat that's full of holes and doesn't really fit anymore? You have a coat! It's still wearable! You can't afford to waste money that way!

I'm working on really understanding my budget and weighing cost vs. value for purchases, but sometimes I still feel like that kid in the store begging to buy something when they know the answer will always be, "No!"

PackFan32 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:47:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

omygosh, me too! Exactly this!

wickywee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:43:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Self body shaming, and the facade of college education.

TrollMcAnally ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:46:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My compliments to OP, this is an excellent post and I thoroughly enjoyed reading the responses.

laurelai_aurora ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:50:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Grew up in the southern US. My father was the son of a Southern Baptist minister. I had a lot of things to break when I finally got out:

That mental illness is something I'd "grow out of." That sex MUST wait until marriage (though I was conceived out of wedlock AND my parents cheated on their spouses with each other). That my dad was the end-all, be-all on every subject matter. That even something as slight as rolling my eyes was cause for a physical beating leaving me lying on the ground crying. That anything other than heterosexuality is an abomination. That every race other than white is inferior and should be looked down on. That I should immediately apologize and expect to be berated for everything I do wrong, even accidents like dropping & breaking dishes. That it's normal to live off of credit cards instead of living within your means. That when you want something, you go buy it regardless of if you can afford it.

SpcK ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:50:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

All black people are ugly, just because they're black.
If they're gorgeous, then it's a shame they're black.

My wife and love of 9 years is black so thankfully I've unlearned that.

OrneryOldFuck ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:51:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That disciplining your chikdren means spanking them.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:52:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Going into grade 11 I realized my dad wasn't who I thought he was... and I've tried to redefine my personal identity. It's been depressing but I've finally managed to pull myself together :) I figure this is the world telling me to put my thoughts into one place, so here goes: -Everything must be clean, always, even if it means you can't build what you need (eg. in a workshop) -Leaving and saying fuck you to anyone he gets mad at (I lost a lot of friends until I stopped this :/ ) -Bragging about his minor accomplishments, while deprecating the work of others -Immediately saying someone else's good idea is wrong, just to push his own idea no matter how poor it is -Having no social life -Making everything a competition with those that don't care -Not taking breaks and working waaay too hard. He runs a small business and doesn't take holidays off. On vacations he still spends hours writing emails. -Won't say anything to your face, but writes ridiculously long emails roasting you, or even worse to your mother with you CC'd in -Taught me my mother was a horrible person, and used her name as an insult toward me. She's actually a really nice person! This really helped to put my problems togehter :)

nesquig ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:55:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to Mormon

IdkwtS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:59:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pouring milk before cereal

QuasarCzar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My god...

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:59:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Say no to drugs.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:02:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That everyone means something deeper with what they say.

That everyone, EVERYONE is out to screw everyone else over for their own gain. Always, constantly, forever.

That if I leave the door unlocked/window open/etc. we WILL have the house broken into and everything stolen and/or us murdered.

That despite being almost 23 years old, if I cook with no one else home I will burn the house down. (Since I no longer live at home, I finally convinced myself to cook dinner for myself for the first time ever earlier this week!)

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:02:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Doing things the easy way is best. My dad would hire non-professionals to work on his house because it was cheap, yet we'd always have shitty results. He would buy the cheapest tires from some shady guy and we'd always have issues with our tires. He'd get the car repaired by some unprofessional drunk, and surprise, we'd have car issues. I just thought that this is what happens in life. It wasn't until I joined the military and got the phrase "the hard right or the easy wrong" that I realized his errors. He still has problems with his house yet refuses to pay anyone more than $10/hr to work on it. Sorry, Bubba doesn't know how to fix your central air.

Ohmilanta798 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:07:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

My father AND mother taught me yelling, hitting, and storming out is the ONLY way to resolve any conflict with anyone. My mother taught me how to treat everyone inferior, even if you're the biggest piece of shit in the room.

Yeahโ€ฆI'm therapy now.

Oh also, my father taught me it was ok to eat a pint of ice cream EVERYDAY when I was a kid! He thought to be fat was "healthy". He now has Type 2 diabetes. Yeahโ€ฆI'm fat AND in therapy.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:08:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That money is a substitute for love. We weren't super wealthy, but both my folks grew up with workaholic, absentee fathers who'd raised themselves out of poverty on grade school educations. I'd see each of my grandfathers once a year when they stopped by to hand over Christmas checks. (They lived in the same town we did.) My parents love it, take full advantage of the 'you were never around' guilt-begging. Followed suit by teaching me that when it comes to your kids, it's better to waste money on them than waste time.

Also, that chicken just naturally tastes terrible. Christ, it was bland.

Nyx34 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:10:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That racism is wrong. That if your husband is abusive you and your children do not have to stay with him. That children have a voice. That respect is earned not given no matter who you are. That you can stop eating when your full not when the plate is cleared.

milqi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:14:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Really horrible eating habits. The finish your plate thing was the worst thing I could have had reinforced throughout childhood. Sorry, but kids shouldn't be forced to eat if they aren't hungry. Now, at 44, I'm dealing with weight issues and one of the most difficult parts of this is learning that I do NOT have to finish the plate. This sounds easy, but we were dirt fucking poor growing up and my parents guilted us into eating everything that was prepared because of how much it cost. Between the guilt I feel and the portion sizes given everywhere, losing weight has been an epic battle that I'm going to fight the rest of my life.

spcbl1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:32:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here. And struggled with weight issues. I found that asking the restaurant to bring a to-go container out with the food and dumping half of it in before eating helps to satisfy the "clean plate" mindset. Bonus lunch for the next day too.

milqi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's a good idea. I might start doing that at some restaurants.

fatfrog420 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:17:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Having to eat every bit of food off of my plate, a serving size which I did not choose, regardless of if I liked the food or not.

I_am_Anon_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:17:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity

runs_in_the_jeans ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:17:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion. I was revised in a pretty religious household and even when I was a kid I thought was religion was stupid. I'm an atheist now.

oskiwiiwii ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:18:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This thread is like a "Raised by Baby Boomers" support group

L0RDA55H0L3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Because everyone here was most likely raised by the Baby Boomers.

GroundSnake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:19:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Where I came from... the adoption agency

Icommentor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:20:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Taking initiative. My family was generally scared shitless of everything and they considered safety to be the only measuring stick for quality of life. And if you want to live a safe life, do what you're told, no more, no less, but especially no more. For too long I tried to follow my aspirations by attempting to get an authority figure to ask to do what I wanted to do in the first place, or even what I knew needed to be done.

Took e a long time and some fumbling around but nowadays I think I've developed a decent sense of initiative. I generally know when to wait, when to ask, when to not give a fuck.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:24:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Racism and Religion. My parents were extreme racists and it took me a while to understand. I have since cut them out of my life and have been a much happier well adjusted person because of it. Growing up my mom used to tell us things like "do not look at black people" implying they were dangerous. As I grew older I slowly realized they were horrible human beings that are the root of a lot of the problems we face in the world. I now live in Toronto one of the most multi-cultural cities in the world and have nothing but love for each and every person on this earth. Havent spoken to anyone in my family in nearly 5 years and i dont miss them at all. Holidays get lonely but it is worth it to not be surrounded by racist crazy bible thumpers.

j_fat_snorlax ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:25:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not exactly something I was taught, but my mum never allowed me to spend the money I saved. So I figured that if I don't save any money at all, I get to spend all of it. I'm still trying to re learn how to save money.

PooleParty247 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:25:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you can never be too old to play in the McDonald's play place.

tehswagg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:25:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I learned that one should not rely on watching a single news channel to base all of one's political views and world opinions. That being Fox News.

TheLonelyServerAdmin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:26:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My father introduced us to his college best friend by calling him "Aunt Rusty". It wasn't until I was about 12 when I finally asked why we call him Aunt. When my father heard me ask this he burst into tears laughing from laughing so hard.

FrancisCastiglione12 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:59:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Can you explain?

8MAC ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:26:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My whole family interrupts each other very often. It's hard to get a word in without doing so. This is fine when you are in a group where everyone does it, but outside it is not received very well.

theembodimentofsleep ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:30:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Kinda dark, so feel free to remove mods. I was sexually abused from what (what i'm told) birth, until I was 10. I had to, 1; learn a lot of basic social skills, and 2; learn not to undress whenever, and do whatever I was told. Took a lot of therapy to realize being a "cumslut slave" isn't normal.

JazzFan419 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:35:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One thing I never picked up on because I'm like my Dad fortunately but my sister never unlearned from my Mom was "Your responsibilities in life can take the back burner if you're "having fun and follow a dream on a whim". That's how my sister never graduated highschool, had two kids, got divorced because she didn't work because she was "Following all of these 'on the fly passions' and does crazy shit like, suddenly decides she's going to hitchhike and become a random photographer across America while forgetting she doesn't have any money and need me to send her bus fare back home to find she's been evicted from her apartment in which she goes to live with my step dad(An electrical engineer and most responsible guy along side my Dad, how he ever married my Mom I'll never know).

Ever since my Mom and Dad died my Step-Dad and I will call each other once in awhile and say "Have you heard from your sister? I talked to her a few months ago and she was in so and so saying she was going to be an artist" "Yeah she called me from here saying she was broke and asked me to send her money to come home". Cycle repeats itself.

QuantumDrej ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:39:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've recently moved out.

One of the things I had to teach myself was that it's perfectly okay to throw away things you don't want or need anymore.

I went from having two freezers packed to capacity with leftovers and uncooked food to one freezer barely filled with stuff I'd be cooking/eating within the week. I went from having a bedroom overflowing with clothes, dolls, trinkets, and gifts that I had either outgrown or just didn't want anymore to a somewhat minimalist space with everything I needed and little more.

If I wanted to get rid of something back at my parents house, Mom would always hijack it and say we were going to sell it somewhere and not give it to Goodwill or something, especially if she paid a lot for it. And I'm not talking ebay, because she thinks the internet is Satan.

If she says we're keeping it to sell, she means it's getting added to the constantly growing mountain of organized clutter that takes up the attic and a couple rooms in the house. She spends most of her time moving shit from one room to the other. Dad's study is filled with stuff, enough that he has only a few feet of space in front of the computer in which to work.

I have a mattress on the floor. I have a desk for my laptop, a couple of lamps, some small decor I brought with me, and a pet rat. And I'm feeling more at ease than I've ever been.

raptorreid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good for you, keep it up.

Zayrina ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:39:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Batshit crazy racism with religious overtones.

Such as black people's eyes will reflect light like a dog or a cat if they are walking along the road in the dark.

Our parent's fuck us up they do.

raptorreid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a black person, this is the first weird rascist idea I've read on this post I kinda wish was true...

Zayrina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:32 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

LOL, it would sort of be a superpower now wouldn't it?

misterwhisper ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:40:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Roman Catholicism.

Chokezilla ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:41:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Overweight boys have small penises. Thanks mom for the body issues, all my girlfriends thought otherwise and I became anorexic for a while.

BassPlayer77 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:42:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The vast majority of things about life, I'm afraid.

My mother suffers from quite major paranoia, and I was conditioned into carrying a burden of the same that had rubbed off on me from her, through childhood.

By moving far away at 18 (alone, but it was worth it), I was able to explore who I really am, realise life could be enjoyed so much more, and shed this inflicted anxiety for good.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:43:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your parents taught you that its ok to finger a bitch when she's asleep?

reddreadbeenborn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh shit no. I don't how but this was supposed to be in a different thread. The one about what common thing do most people should know but don't. Thank you for pointing out this. I have zero idea how it ended up in this thread. Reddit on my phone is obviously not the best choice

Al7123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:47:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Never lie

Soundswipe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:48:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That authority always makes someone right. It took me a long time to realize for myself that this isn't always how it works and train myself to challenge authority when I disagree with it.

Calguy1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

THIS

rawrimaliz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:53:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom had me convinced until after I was 18 that I was still having growing pains in my knees and that was the cause of years of pain. Turned out I had shredded tendons in both my knees and needed full patellar tendon reconstruction on both.

She's now doing the same thing to my younger sister, thankfully I've learned to teach her differently.

raptorreid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:18:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As someone who had debilitating growing pains, I'm sorry you had to endure what I can imagine was even worse pain for so long.

imminent_riot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:54:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If I hug my male friends they will fantasize about raping me - if they get a boner it's my fault and I deserve whatever happens to me.

raptorreid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:15:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Damn...I'm sorry.

imminent_riot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm 33 years old and when she asked me who I roomed with at LARP she was horrified that it was all men except one other woman who's even smaller than me (I'm 5'0") and you would have thought I'd willingly gotten into a lion's den and somehow made it out alive.

Death_by_Clicker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:59:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Had to unlearn racism. My mom told me white people came from God and black people evolved from monkeys "that's why blacks only sweat through their hands and feet." Well I went into foster care at 15 and had three athletic black brothers. They sweat like I do. My mind melted. I've ignored my entire upbringing since then.

AJ_Dali ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:00:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I had to unlearn the Earth is 6000 years old because my mom was a young Earth creationist.

All of my siblings were obsessed with dinosaurs and educational shows about them. We eventually came to realize she was misguided.

Edit: my original post had a double negative.

FrancisCastiglione12 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:49:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait, so do you believe it's 6000 years old?

AJ_Dali ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:11:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ah, I see my grammatical error. I'll go fix that. No, I don't believe that.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:03:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom taught me to ignore bullies.

This one and the idea that I would never be accepted into any school because my grades weren't good enough are the two that have affected my life the most.

She'll remember things completely differently to save herself from having to feel bad about what she said. I actually had dinner with her and her boyfriend and introduced her to my girlfriend for the first time and she said I told her I didn't think I had any use for school. I just calmly said. "I didn't say that and I would never say that. "

PuppetsNPeople ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:04:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom had dreams that she said were visions. Basically that she dreamed something bad happened to us while we were out and we either couldn't go to things or had to come home right away (in high school/college). She also was positive the world was going to end because of a dream she had when she was younger.

My mom told us all this crazy stuff, I believed it and told people at school. I felt like an idiot when I got older and found out that my mom lives in her own world where whatever she reads or thinks about it true.

I also had to unlearn social awkwardness and general corkiness from my dad. it's kind of cute when you are 8. Funny when you are in high school. not cool at all as an adult. I've had to unlearn telling jokes in general. i was raised with a terrible (dorky) sense of humor and my parents hate sarcasm. Anytime I try it out - I just sound like an asshole.

TheTrumpDonald ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:10:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to socialize... as in they don't... Love em, just like having other people to talk to occasionally

Also, planning. One is completely spontaneous and hates even knowing how long a vacation will last (idk how they get time off... I stopped asking...), the other literally won't go to the bathroom in an unresearched stop.

SpicaGenovese ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:18:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That Im not awesome.

Im pretty awesome.

mikeymikeymikey1968 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:19:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So it took me a while, but I came to the conclusion that not all the people in other denominations and religions are going to hell. Thank God.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:19:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I unlearned to be afraid of the multiple germs around me

its830 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:20:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm working on unlearning that when someone says my name, it's not usually a bad thing. Whenever my husband, coworker, or boss say my name, I get a sick feeling in my stomach even they are using a positive voice.

TvbSofall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:00:12 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to legally change my name to get over that sick feeling.

saltmine_slave ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:32:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to unlearn that if dishes do not come clean in the dishwasher; you wash them again, not throw them away.

FrancisCastiglione12 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:43:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

People who don't go to Meeting will go to Hell.

azurest ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:48:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

my mom always told me that you get square eyes from watching tv. i recently found out you dont...

FezPaladin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nope, just red eyes.

AdmrlPoopyPantz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:11:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm still unlearning not being so quiet about my opinions, especially my atheism. I'm afraid of telling people that I DONT believe in a fairy sky god that grants wishes...pretty sad.

fakepicasso ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:13:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Destiny.

That if something doesn't happen, you "are not meant to do that" -- coupled along with God's Will bullshit. No, I didn't get the position because I botched the interview -- not because it's my "destiny" to screw up the interview.

I was after I became frustrated of "destiny" being the answer why things go wrong that I realised it's not destiny, but because I did something wrong or I didn't work hard enough. Destiny is such a romanticised excuse.

dxisyridley ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:16:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents told me never to step on cold tile/concrete with bare feet cause i would upset my stomach and get migraines. what??

Treyzania ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:23:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
baconmermaid842 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:24:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That being depressed is just me "straying from gods light" and not a serious concern.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:41:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I lived with my grandparents for a short time when I was younger and my grandma had some stupid logic that,

"Only pretty girls have short hair."

She would wake me up at the crack of dawn to take me to get a hair cut EVERY WEEK. I remember at one point we didn't go for about a month and she then woke me up when it was still dark outside for a week to get a hair cut. When we got back once my sister started crying (she was a toddler) because she didn't recognize me. We moved back in with our parents after that and my mom was furious. Her little five year old went from looking like a little girl to looking like a nun. I had to reteach myself that I could have long hair a be pretty.

Now every time grandma sees me she tells me I need a hair cut and my hair looks ugly. I politely decline. Fuck your logic grandma.

karmagirl314 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:42:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That passive racism is okay because it's not "real" racism.

xsynrg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:42:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Leaving the fan on in an enclosed room will kill you.

Korean hoax I was made to believe until only a few years ago, when I told my friends about it and were shocked. It was then when I started thinking logically and realized how fan's lethal potentials made NO sense.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:44:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Its disrespectful to correct an adult.

brutalitarian803 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:47:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism.

iDarkville ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is powerful. Bravo.

InquisitorDA ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:51:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That Coca Cola tastes the same as Pepsi.

krisoco ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:02:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom told me I was allergic to mushrooms. Went about 18 years completely avoiding mushrooms til my mom made them for a dinner side one night, I looked at her like "uhh mom?" and it took her awhile to recall she told me that as a kid cause I kept trying to eat mushrooms growing out of my backyard

FezPaladin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Parents who like to lie to their children... classy!

Pixeleyez ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:11:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, I'm still thirteen, but I've grown up in a family were we all talk really loud to each other in our house. Like, really loud. And apparently (although I don't notice) multiple teachers and friends have called me out on my voice saying it's 'too intense'

FezPaladin ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:22:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That one is a bullshit, nobody hardly talks loud in the real world... but in most parts of the United States, a child who speaks up with a normal tone is often recognized as less fearful, which tends to translate as "defiant towards authority". I never really took any shit from teachers (surprisingly) because I was the only child in most of my classes who "spoke up" so that I could be heard, but the parents of the other children had what may be politely described as "mixed opinions" about me -- because let's face it, Southerners are trashy people who hate children... they abuse them when they're their own, and they spread malicious rumors about them when they're somebody else's. I don't know where the teachers doing this to children are (or maybe I just got lucky with most of mine), but children who don't speak up are literally being abused by the so-called authority figures.

jaysjami ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:13:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Rage, abuse, a hell of a lot of dysfunction. I'm 35 and I work at unlearning it every single day.. it's a neverending process. My biggest goal in parenting my children is that they are not traumatized by their childhoods.

FezPaladin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:16:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here.

Gravemind7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:15:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be biased. Growing up in an African-American family. (Dad's from Nigeria. Moved to the US in his teens.) You'd be surprised at how rampant this actually is considering the history of bias that ethnic group has gone through in this country.

Example?

Repairing a hole in my screen door. I ask why are we using clear duct tape instead of colored? He says "It looks better." Which I of course agree with. Followed by "Plus we're not white trash." And a laugh.

My mother is the fastest one to pull out the race card anywhere. Oh, that lady got better service at Subways because she's white. Oh, they stopped me because I'm black.

"Gravemind, don't trust these people"(Multiple ethnicities)

"This is why I hate Puerto Ricans."

"This is why I hate Mexicans."

I love my parents. They provided for me, and I would suffer for them just as they have for me. I understand that this mindset of theirs came from growing up in heavily racist environments when they were younger. But the fact that they cannot see their own hypocrisy is astounding to me. They'll be the first to praise MLK Jr but be the first to disregard one of his greatest phrases. "Judge someone not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:37:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Disciplining children out of anger. You know, yelling, spanking, angry diatribes, that sort of thing.

I initially parented my children the way I was and it just wasn't working. I was MISERABLE, and so was my boyfriend and my children. So I had to voluntarily go to a parenting class to learn how to discipline my children dispassionately. I have to learn how not to take my anger out on them, to leave the room, calm down, and calmly issue discipline.

It feels like learning how to walk again, but it is worth the peace it brings in my home.

Also, it's not bad to masturbate.

Colorblind_cl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:38:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I ALWAYS must eat all the food that I have on my plate, no matter if im full.

memyselfandennui ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:43:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Being /r/raisedbynarcissists taught me that the way to bond with someone is to reply to anything someone says by telling a similar story about yourself. Whoops.

I also don't ask people enough questions about themselves, because I just assume that anyone with anything to say will talk over me to do so.

I come off as self-absorbed during first dates, because I struggle to remember to show interest in socially appropriate ways.

Beaan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:54:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity

grrmlin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:58:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That if you are good, good things will happen to you. My sister was terrible and got lots of money and possessions thrown at her. I tried to be perfect and was ignored ๐Ÿค”

yavvy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:00:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am always supposed to be happy. Not to worry about anything because all the women in my family are worry-worts. I am told that I'm never actually feel any negative emotions. If I ever feel not happy or not good, do not tell my grandparents especially or anyone else.

wombenvy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:16:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mormonism

mercuryruled88 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:38:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad seemed to think that ignoring problems would make them go away. However; my mother was a grudge holder who let it bottle up & then when pushed past her limit she would let it all out.

So, I suppose I learned to how to make a better decision when it comes to handling my feelings.

CustardHands ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:02:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the correct reaction to someone's lack of manners or etiquette is not to scold them and shame them for being rude

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:17:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That if I want something from someone, I just have to ASK and not them to magically guess. My mum always does that, it's infuriating, so when I was a teenager I followed in her steps. Now I know better...

AlbinoHessian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:23:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad was a super bad alcoholic and my mom became adamant that I would never drink because she was afraid that I would become my dad. For a time I had this thing in my head that alcohol was pure evil and that people who drank were usually scumbags when that wasn't the case.

Happy to say at 22 I unlearned it and I'm no-where near like my father. I like to drink and go out with friends occasionally but I'm always responsible with it.

Plastonick ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:32:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Milk in tea before the water. Makes the tea bag cold and doesn't seep as readily. Put milk in after water.

Hitter6 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:00:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity.

ryuluna ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:01:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You do not owe people when they do nice things for you. Life is not tit for tat.

People will be nice to me, or when I get gifts, I always stress out about ' what are they expecting out of me. And how can I repay this?!'. Sometimes, people are just doing things to do it. You are not asking for it. You don't need to stress out about it.

allmyweirdness ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:10:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My Mother taught me that standing next to an operating microwave would affect my fertility. My Father taught me that if I pet a cats fur in the wrong direction that it would die.

In my Mother's defense we were the first household that she knew of that had a microwave, she didn't have Google, and was a fine arts major (no science background). She just didn't know better and now feels silly about it.

In my Dad's defense we had a cat that was a real asshole.

ghpkhg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:11:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

Homophobia

Standing in front of the microwave (this won't hurt you. Literally a Faraday cage on the front of a microwave...)

How to not be poor (spending vs saving)

ollyollyollyoioioi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:20:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that a two bottles of wine a night is normal.

RealVicelord ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:30:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That drugs are bad. Then I relearned that they are.

itslittleolme ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:39:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Be honest.

I seriously suffered as a kid for simply being honest. Oh, and I would even get scolded by my parents for being honest about stuff such as me not liking relatives. WTF mom and dad?!

d0rxy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:45:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you should use the capacity of your brain to its full potential.

If you can grasp every subject thrown at you eventually but you have serious motivational issues getting to that point you should take a look at your mental capacity too.

Currently concidering quitting my masters degree (already have my bachelors) because I'm already working and that gives me so much more joy and I never seem to be properly concentrated on studying. Yet the main thing that holds me back is the thought that my father drilled on 'study to your potential and you'll make it a lot farther in life' which I'm starting to doubt for me as a person.

Tourist_trapped ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:01:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was looking for my first job, my stepmother told me that I should call every place I applied at every day to 'check in' as it would show that I was really interested in the job. She also told me to ask "When can I start??" at the end of every interview. My dad agreed with her. I tried telling them that those things seemed obnoxious and presumptuous, but she insisted it would get me jobs. I never did it, and strangely managed to get jobs anyway. Every manager I have ever had has complained about people who call frequently to check on the status of their application or resume, and several have later laughed about those who ask 'When can I start?" during an interview. At least I was not the only one out there whose parents were clueless, I guess.

jamhub63 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:31:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That my opinions and desires are worthless

ViciousKnids ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:38:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Finish everything on your plate. I'm 237 pounds, I really don't need to.

xenogensis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:42:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My confidence, I never really knew how much of a negative impact my mom was making on me until I moved out. She use to always point out what was wrong, I was getting fat, or my hair was getting too long or my acne was getting bad. Generally things I thought I appreciated in the moment, but looking back it was more things she didn't like about herself that she projected onto me. I didn't ever realize you were aloud to be publicly proud of yourself.

That was a huge surprise once I had my own place, no one really gives a fuck. I think it all came from a loving place, but God did it do a number on my confidence. I can't even really hold a conversation with out fearing people might judge me.

JLynne44 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:14:50 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Same here. In my 50's I went home to visit and was blown away seeing how truly destructive her behavior was and still is. It left me in an "emotional flashback" state for months. (Pete Walker)

Not sure whether it's projection of her own self-loathing or something more pathological. I'm studying everything I can to deal with the habitual(?) and viciously hypercritical verbal assaults.

If she responds to effective boundary setting there may be hope of a heart underneath there somewhere.

Sounds like you are younger and catching it earlier than I did. I hope so. BTW, I was in my 40's when a friend pointed out that I avoided looking people in the eye and thankfully trained me how to do it without discomfort.

bakedtateO ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:45:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity

Vephyr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:09:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow this thread really made me appreciate my parents a lot more.

BigBlueBox12 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:22:43 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bigotry, mostly.

5uperfreak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:30:59 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

RupsjeNooitgenoeg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:40:47 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That if you do lots of stuff for others people will notice and return the favor. Took me a long time to learn nobody gives a flying fuck.

rndmdarC ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:09:50 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you should always obey what other people tell you to do. I wish I had stood up for myself in the past when my beliefs differed from someone else's. I'm such a people pleaser now and I hate it.. I'm not AS much as I used to be, but..

facthungry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:30:49 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Creationism.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:44:00 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's all right to show your emotions and you shouldn't feel bad about it. I was a shy kid already, and I know they didn't mean anything by it, but it was ALL THE TIME.

"What are you smiling about? Don't look so sad! Don't make that face! Oooh, look at him blushing!"

Shockingly, this turned into a kid/young adult who struggles daily with showing emotion on my face and in my voice, let alone actually expressing feelings. Even now it's hard to speak in anything other than a fairly monotone tenor without totally overloading and blowing it all out, since I never really worked out how to regulate that stuff.

And the cherry on top? The icing on the cake I got from my mother once the damage had long since been done?

"You're so cold! You don't care at all."

couture4suckers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:12:41 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

to be a prude.

Philadelphia_Bawlins ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:28:40 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

My mother pronounces the letter H "Hay-tch". My 1st grade teacher who was this fiery Italian American woman. Was about 5'3 and wore high high heals. She would get mad when ever I would say it like that. Learned not to do it that year. But also learned I like short busty olive skinned women who wear high heals and are spunky. My gf of 6 years is 5'2 Chicano

cosmic-mermaid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:57:09 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

to pour salt on slugs and watch them die ๐Ÿ™ˆ

~RIP little buddies~

JLynne44 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:38 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh my. I did that when I was a kid. No one taught me. It was just a curiosity at the time. I still feel bad about it. ~Please forgive me little buddies~

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:05:33 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion and how it affects political views.

teakspeaks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:26:55 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That nothing i ever did was good enough. My mom wasnt the nicest person on the block, she was very demanding. She hated how big i was, and that i had a disability. No matter what i did, i had to be better. Nothing was good enough. I still struggle with my self esteem almost everyday; and my anxiety takes over my life every once in a while. But i am learning more and more to be proud of myself, even if its for just getting through the day

JLynne44 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:58:34 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here. She's still doing it. Glad to see you're making progress. Pete Walker's book "Complex PTSD from Surviving to Thriving" has helped me more than I can say. Also Spartan Life Coach, Richard Grannon on YouTube. I support you and I believe in you!

ChillingMarmoset ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:03:59 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The song "Long Tall Woman in A Black Dress" was NOT, in point of fact, written in honor of my mother by one of her college boyfriends.

I thought that was true until college.

Kunxion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:44:32 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

tonyspankss ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:49:43 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Right foot on gas. Left foot on brake

boomer2346 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:28:28 on August 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I should order my steaks medium well/ well done. It's a cardinal sin, and I can't believe I used to do that, I guess when I was younger it made sense to ensure it was cooked.

Killa-Byte ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:41:01 on August 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The candy at the checkout lane IS for sale.

Connelly90 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:06:31 on September 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't knkw if its just a UK thing...but my parents told me that Angel Delight takes all night to set, like jelly, to delay me eating it.

It takes like 20 mins.

10124268 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:20:16 on September 15, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My hardcore Christian atmosphere taught me homosexuals are evil. Homosexuals are just like Christians: some are cool and some are assholes. So now I'm an LGBT friendly atheist! :D

Cherish_Dipp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:46:02 on December 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Slight, casual racism (realising what I was saying and coming to terms how... not good it was. Ironically, since I let the prejudice go, I'm a lot happier.) I had to unlearn rightwing politics and found out what was really going on (they didn't feed my false information, it was just everything was from their perspective.)

We're also quite a hotheaded family and when I went away to uni for 3 years, I found how taking your anger out on someone else because you didn't want to deal with your own insecurities was NOT okay.

I now handle my temper far better because I'm more honest and open with myself. I also put my footdown on anyone else doing it to me.

I also tell myself that it's okay more often. To get things right, you probably have to get it wrong first. Failure is a process, not an end of the world thing. You either try again, fail better/learn more or succeed.

They're wonderful, loving parents though and gave me a childhood I look back on with fondness and a dumb smile on my face xD

IndecisiveProcastina ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:52:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That there's a Hell

TissueBoxesOfFun ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:33:29 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Damn that sucks. Stuff can screw you up and makes it easier for them to indoctrinate you. Hope all goes well

Plebianne ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:42:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So many things. That amassing wealth doesn't make me an evil person. That the mantra "What doesn't kill me makes me stronger" is defeatist and self-defeating, and accepts and even encourages a life of struggle. That poor people aren't necessarily morally superior to other classes. That there is pride in working hard, but there can also be pride in working smart.

AliceInMindPalace ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:35:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Life is a struggle, though.

Plebianne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:17:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The problem is the pessimism inherent in adopting this as a personal philosophy; it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Vs nurturing gratitude, giving yourself and other people the benefit of the doubt etc. There's no reason to make life harder than it already is.

Winston_Road ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:05:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ask for permission to do anything.

finalmantisy83 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:34:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Using In Vitro fertilization doesn't make you a homosexual, it's a medically sound process that has helped many people conceive children. Also that being homosexual isn't a bad thing.

TURBOANAL ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:09:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
  • That jet fuel cannot melt steel beams.
  • That the British royal family are descendants of the alien race from the renegade planet Nibiru which came to Earth to colonize humans for gold.
  • To not go outside when you see chemtrails because that's how you get Morgellons, and Morgellons fibers actually send nanobots into your bloodstream in order to access your brain and take control over it.
dankmemesxx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:36:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

got me with that first line rofl

Rowit ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:25:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents used to place wrapped Christmas gifts from Santa Claus under the tree like 3 weeks before Christmas. Not to sound ungrateful but I had to unlearn that when I had a child and put the unwrapped gifts out on Christmas eve as intended.

squintina ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:51:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Unwrapped? Are you some kind of barbarian monster?

Rowit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:55:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Weren't yours unwrapped growing up as well? Oh shit, what have I done to my child!

squintina ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:46:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My family was somewhat unusual. We opened presents on Christmas Eve. One person at a time would open a single present which was then passed around for everyone to admire. It took hours. I'm told this is some kind or German or Polish way of doing it. They were definitely all wrapped and placed under the tree early.

M3n747 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:22:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pole here. We do indeed open our presents on the Christmas Eve - I was actually surprised to learn that in other countries people open them on the first day of Christmas. Passing presents around for everyone to see, however, is not something I've ever heard of before.

Susan_Werner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Santa always leaves the presents unwrapped under the tree. Look at pictures of Santa, his sack is full of unwrapped presents.

P8zvli ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:15:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be objective in your reasoning about everything, except God created all the animals and evolution is fake, the Earth was made in 6000 years so the entire field of geology is fake too, and global warming is not caused by man so it's also fake.

My objectivity has since led me to the opposite conclusions.

ChaosWolf1982 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:32:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

objectivity

and by that, we mean "logic, reasoning, and lack of irrational fear regarding science".

Good boy.

And yet, even the idea of evolution can still mesh with the Bible, so long as one is intelligent and aware enough to not think that the Genesis account is depicting literal seven 24-hour days. Instead, consider that it instead is in the form of interpreted visions made by mortals with limited vocabulary - this is using the same logic that many use to support the theory that the "giant locusts" and "iron-skinned beasts" and such of Revelation are not literally massive insects and animals but John attempting to describe visions of modern things like helicopters and tanks without the right knowledge and context - with that notion of metaphorical speech as your basis, then it fits quite well...
Let there be light = Big Bang
Heavens above and heavens below = coalescing of stardust into planets.
Seas and land forming = planet cooling
Creation of sun and stars = clouds thinning enough to make stars visible
...and so on.

P8zvli ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:35:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Because God told Moses about evolution, the big bang and star formation 5000 years ago and told him to write some cryptic shit about it instead of the truth.

Oh and the Egyptians never recorded the events depicted in Exodus either, even though they wrote down everything supernatural in their hieroglyphs, which makes the Bible a good source of information because...?

Objective indeed.

MetroSkeptic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:47:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That Christianity "just makes sense". I spent 21 years in the church, but after years spent pursuing a degree in biochemistry with a few philosophy classes on the side, it is all too apparent that we cannot truly know anything. The most appropriate attitude is one of humility and a thirst for the truth rather than just being right.

its-caribou-lou ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:47:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

my friend sitting next to me voiced 'islam'.

AliceInMindPalace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:42:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He's right.

slick8086 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:51:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

Danizdaman0506 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:08:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That there are ghosts

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ theonecalledzach ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:09:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mr skeletal would like a word with you

TheRealTacoMike ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:14:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He would like to have a word with you too for misspelling his name, Mr. Skeltal

mamashala ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:17:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism and proper nutrition.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:23:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Islam

dandiel1212 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:47:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

racism

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:51:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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alina_314 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:36:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was stupid insecure growing up and had to learn that people will like me no matter what.

Well, let's not get carried away here.

FlyAwayPanda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:18:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can totally relate. My mom told me to suck it in all the time... :/

Shaedonii1 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 11:18:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You are scum if you can't properly use the word "you're"

460Glock ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:18:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be afraid of guns. I'm actually a liberal and had an irrational fear and hatred for these evil weapons with no purpose other than to kill. Then I stopped for a moment and realized I knew absolutely nothing about guns and looked into it more, got some training, and met some "gun" people. Instead of the crazy redneck cowboy stereotype I expected, I met people who were extremely professional and serious about being a responsible gun owner, and passing this on to the next person. Really, my fear and hatred of guns stemmed from ignorance, bias, and naively believing that the right was evil and the left was always good (Left seemed to always be on the right side of history when it came to social issues).

So now I'm a weirdly Pro-gun liberal, which means both sides dislike me lol

dearly_decrpit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:22:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's interesting because I am at a stance where I fear and hate them. Maybe I should do some research too :)

gunfulker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:35:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was raised with guns. Like literally learning numbers in school and then I'd go home and use those numbers to refer to the caliber of weapon I was practicing with that day. Growing up I knew where my parents kept the guns because they told me where they were, I was expected to be able to retrieve one and use it if necessary. What 460Glock says about "professional and serious" is right, the trust, practice, and discipline required to make such an upbringing safe was intense.

At the time we lived in one of the less populated areas of the least populated state. Only after moving did I realize how unusual this level of gun immersion was. Given this perspective, I think the gun issue is at it's core a division of rural areas vs urban areas:

In remote areas, you can fire a gun in a random direction outdoors and probably do no harm to anyone or their property. In cities it's like 25% that you'll hit someone.

In rural areas, respected and reliable people who are invested in the good of the community own guns. In urban areas having a gun, especially outside the house, suggests criminal activity.

Where we lived, the cops (sorry, I mean "cop", there was only one, on duty 24/7 and was responsible for around a 50 mile radius) could take an hour to arrive on the scene even with ideal conditions, with some chance he wouldn't come that day. When the locals asked how he was supposed to protect them given this long delay, he would explain that you needed to be ready to protect yourself and he would arrive afterwards to file a report and maybe help clean up if required. I don't think I saw an ambulance the entire time we lived there, as we were a 2.5 hour drive from the nearest hospital. Where I live now, the cops drive past the house at around 5 times a day, I assume the nearest police station here employs over 100 people.

I've lived various places with grizzlies, moose, wolves, venomous snakes, and 140 pound wild pigs (average adult male, sometimes as much as 400 lbs, travel together in groups of ~25). At one point we lived in a trailer so flimsy that a determined animal could break and enter it, not to mention the times we had moose repeatedly try to attack us in our own driveway, or a local bear that went around killing leashed dogs (and not eating them either, just an asshole bear). We had a garden with an electric fence around it. It wasn't stopping moose unfortunately, so at the age of 12 my parents posted me outside overnight to protect the crops. "Shoot it and run inside if it charges" they said. We never hunted, the guns were always about not being hunted, about defense.

Given the above you can probably see where this huge difference in attitudes towards guns comes from. You end up with people who think guns are pure evil and no good can come from them, and other people who think not owning a gun is like not owning a fire extinguisher. Group A wants to get ban them, restrict them, regulate them, and group B can't imagine life without them.

dearly_decrpit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:51:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you for sharing your viewpoint.

460Glock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:51:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Excellent post.

WobbleTheHutt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:52:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Another pro-gun liberal here. Didn't touch one till I was in my 20's and had no idea how to propperly check the chamber or unload it and was terrified. I didn't purchase one myself until I put in a lot of thought and made sure I wasn't doing it to make myself feel powerful. I now own a few and I'm completely comfortable around and handling them, kinda like power tools. They can maim and kill but if you treat them with respect you have nothing to fear.

soylentgreen2015 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:20:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's really possible for a single man to travel to every child's house around the world in a single evening and deliver presents to them. #lies #scarredforlife

MacadamNumber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Using hashtags on Reddit is a sin.

thegodsoul ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:29:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's okay to make fun of people because of their race/gender/sexuality etc. Over the years I've managed to change a few things about with my mum and so on, but a good 7/8 of my family are still racist, sexist and homophobic twatbags.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:42:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well at least you made it out! You can be the start of a more open and accepting chapter in the history of your family.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:33:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:40:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This post alone was a confusing time.

endlezzdrift ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:09:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Huh?

ecctt2000 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:12:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you can trust MSM, organized religion, politics and the stated narrative is always true.

denhelder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:40:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Raised in a Protestant household, 9-year old me told my swimming teacher that she was going to hell because she was Catholic and they were idol worshippers.

(Australian, btw, not from the American south).

Ketherah ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:41:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I asked my college professor if the Bible was historically accurate, the class started laughing. Growing up brainwashed in the Mormon religion is hard to get out of. But I no longer think the earth is 2000 years old, that native Americans are evil Jews that God cursed their skin, and that Gays are going to destroy America.

SamURLJackson ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:24:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion, and how it infiltrated everything in my life. I've been out of home almost 20 years and it still subconsciously influences decisions I make. When someone else realizes it (because I never do) I feel like an absolute idiot

BitcoinBanker ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:32:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Plus one for hilarious username

TheParabolicMan ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:08:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

religion

CorpseeaterVZ ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:08:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to approach women. My parents taught me to be shy, polite and a pure gentleman. But in reality you need to be cocky, hint at sexual stuff, touch women often and make fun of them. Of course everything has to be done in a funny way and it needs to be subtle, but if you get laid often, you know what I mean.

cherryredhumdinger ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:47:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

lmfao

[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:29:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus

Dah_Brazilian ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:38:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity

PM_ME_YOUR_VAN_GUARD ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 06:49:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yup...

beast_nuts ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:24:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The Bible

-Rider- ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:58:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The Bible.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:20:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:11:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"They fuck you up, your mum and dad. They may not mean to, but they do. They fill you with the faults they had And add some extra, just for you.

But they were fucked up in their turn By fools in old-style hats and coats, Who half the time were soppy-stern And half at one another's throats.

Man hands on misery to man. It deepens like a coastal shelf. Get out as early as you can, And don't have any kids yourself."

Not_Austin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:41:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

All of the typical stuff that comes with being part of a mega church my whole life. I still sometimes feel shame for having sex or swearing. Not enough to make me stop, but that little tug telling me I'm doing something wrong is still there. Not feeling good enough. Feeling like I need to find some grand answer to my problems instead of working to fix them myself. Judging people for stupid reasons. I've only officially been separated from the church for under a year but I'm making progress.

NivlacSupreme ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:38:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

you certainly are if you're having sex and swearing enough to know that this happens every time

Toxicitor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:26:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sometimes I wonder if the christians are right about god and the devil, but the devil infiltrated the catholic church a few hundred years ago and created all the crazy shit they spew today.

Garblin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:42:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That men should protect women.

No, fuck that shit, men should work for a world in which women don't need to be protected.

Muffinmurdurer ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:22:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Or you know, people should just stop being cunts to each other and to help others out if they need it.

[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:23:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That Gay people are a sin against God.

foilrat ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:15:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity. Raised Conservative Baptist.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:05:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity

StinkyPetes ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:32:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religious shite.

[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:52:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

eaglevisionz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:04:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

Satyrane ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:35:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Catholicism...

hasawaywithtape ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:26:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That my weight can't go over 120lbs despite me being 5'6 and heavily athletic. At 12 my mom weighed me and frowned while telling me I needed to "get that down." It's made me have a lot of issues with food. I'm struggling now to not obsess. Not quite unlearned, but I'm getting there.

Bluthiest ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:55:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm so sorry this happened to you. Weight is just a number. Eat yummy food and keep playing hard.

GIS-Rockstar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:19:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That red liquid in the packaged meats isn't just "cell juice" - that shit's blood.

CassandraCuntberry ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:16:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's myoglobin but idk how that's any better or worse than hemoglobin in the first place.

Someone_who_isnt_hi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:20:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Actually no. It's dye to make the meat look fresher

GIS-Rockstar ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:23:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I worked in a deli slicing roast beef. That shit's blood.

Someone_who_isnt_hi ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:27:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I currently work in a deli. Although I was never taught what that red stuff was in the roast beef I know that raw meat is usually covered in dye

acdenh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:01:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe they meant the other kind of dying.

TheMeatballMafia ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:23:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That God isn't real.

Granted, that's just what I think based on my experiences in life so far. Raised in a lax yet still Catholic practicing family (in church every Sunday at 5pm). 12 years of Catholic education from K-12.

You believe in God or any higher power, then that's great. Seriously, that's absolutely awesome to have something you may believe in so strongly and may be passionate about. Won't put anyone down for that. But it just wasn't for me and it's been one of the best things for me personally that I've unlearned from my parents.

flyingtauntaun ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:46:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being a Republican.

thetexasunicorn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:59:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here. Once I left home I converted from a conservative Christian republican to a liberal democrat atheist. This was all instigated by accepting my sexuality. I then promised myself I would reassess all my beliefs at that point and here I am now.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

iamcubz ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:25:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

AmeliaKitsune ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:56:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion and everything that comes with that.

603hockey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion. Catholicism to be exact. At least i wasn't a baptist lmao.

zSprawl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:42:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

SoulBoundX ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:51:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That God was real.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:38:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cooking since I moved in with my girlfriend.

My mum taught me how to cook, and my partner does always like the way the food I make tastes. So I have had to re learn how to cook all the food.

efrique ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:43:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

my partner does always like the way the food I make tastes

so there's clearly no problem

So I have had to re learn how to cook all the food

Wait, what? You changed the way you cook food because your partner liked it before? What kind of monster are you?

Songal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:52:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I should stop sagging my pants "like a black guy" in their own words.

SolitarySysadmin ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:47:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair you really should. It makes you look dumb.

Roostertoes ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:29:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you should be seen and not heard

arbypop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:47:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I do not need a man to solve my problems

Daft_Skunk2987 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:17:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Smoking pot is bad. Already relearned it twice today.

Common-Ramen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:19:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism and homophobia.

I don't think like that at all, I'm more the black sheep of my family now, but man as a little kid I was spewing backwards offensive shit like it was my job.

pogtheawesome ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:39:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm not a piece of shit and I'm not stupid. My parents blamed all their problems on me, and while they didn't mean it, I believed them and tried really hard to do better but they would still always tell me I was a terrible child. Also they constantly made me study math problems and other shit I was bad at because they wanted me to do better but I was a straight A student and I just couldn't focus because I have adhd and that shit is absolutely exhausting. Just pages and pages of arithmetic. It was insane. My mom has cancer and has a lot of difficult with mental fatigue now and it's kinda satisfying to see her get a taste of her own medicine.

tcatlicious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow! that must have been one shitty childhood if you are now happy that your mom has cancer and is struggling mentally.

Hope it works out for you.

pogtheawesome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

not at all happy she's struggling, I still love her, that's just one thing in particular I find it hard to be sympathetic towards

AliceInMindPalace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:41:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Studying math really is good for you, you know.

pogtheawesome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:18:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's good when you don't know it. I knew it. I was at the age where all we did was arithmetic and I was a smart kid so I knew it just fine. I just couldn't think fast enough (i test in like the 15th percentile for speed of information recall) and focus long enough to do the finish the pages fast enough for her. I excelled everywhere else but she just couldn't let this one thing go.

beto1130 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:27:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm a loser and everything I touch turns to shit.

Purebread90 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:41:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
  1. That credit can be leveraged to your advantage. I'm so sick of hearing about fucking Dave Ramsey, and the only way to live is with cash.

  2. College can be worth it if you make it worth it. I'll be 30 before I finish my undergrad but damnit I'm going to do it. Mock me all you want.

  3. Trump is a terrible fucking choice (Hillary can fuck herself, I'll vote for Johnson/Weld all day long while you try to usher in The End)

  4. It's ok to show affection to those you love, or have feelings in general.

  5. Just because your parents did something a certain way, doesn't mean that's the only way.

  6. Being trashy rednecks is not a valid source of pride. I don't get off on how many beavers are drying in my shed.

  7. Eating habits. Working on this one.

With that said, there's a lot of things they did right.

  1. Treat people with respect. Even the lowest among you.

  2. Happiness is not found in your bank account.

  3. Be generous. With your money, talents, time.

M3n747 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'll be 30 before I finish my undergrad but damnit I'm going to do it. Mock me all you want.

I'm 32 and in October I'm starting my second year at the university. You're never too old to learn.

BabiDollNikki ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:50:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't fight back. I was bullied heavily as a young child up until my sophomore year of high school. My parents LIVED by treat others how you'd want to be.

"You're so fat" I would reply by telling them thanks or that they're pretty. Fuck I tried killing myself more than once because I was so nice to these people and all they did was keep treating me like shit. I was told if I'm nice they'll be nice back.

Until one day in sophomore year I was told to go cut myself like the piece of shit I am. I decked this (huge) dude in my class in the face, pulled him to the floor and swung at him a few times after scratching him and kicking him in the crotch. I got ISS for it, and my parents grounded me. They were furious that I didn't ignore him or be nice to him. But after that I was done being nice. (:

Ohhhshet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:13:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad always told me you needed to work hard to make it in this world...biggest lie I was ever told.

kevin64811 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:40:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to be overtly racist.

Mr2-1782Man ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:47:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to handle finances (Thankfully I had a grandmother that taught me the ropes when I got old enough):

  • Savings accounts are a losing proposition, do the math when it comes to saving money

  • If you need to make payments on it you can't afford it (cars and homes notwithstanding)

  • Don't loan anyone money unless you're willing to give it to them

  • Just because it's on sale doesn't mean it's a good price or you need it

  • Just because something's cheap doesn't mean it's a good value

  • Putting off minor repairs or maintenance now because it costs a bit is just asking for trouble later

  • If an agreement isn't written out it never happened

buminthecorner ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:54:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That Reaganomics actually works, and jobless people are just lazy.

BiggMuffy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:55:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Objectification of women.

Learning to not sabotage my relationships...

jjack55 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:59:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mormonism

alextound ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:02:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:27:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Implying that there was like an order or an expected way to live this life. There isn't. All such thinking is advanced slavery.

swissmiss1269 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:34:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism. Homophobia. Basically negatively judging anyone who looks or does anything different than what they were accustomed to. Very thankful to have met friends that showed me its ok to love all people.

endlezzdrift ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:08:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're awesome for this.

colinbazzano ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:36:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad always cooked me well done steak. For a while that's how I thought I liked it. I was such an idiot

azimhussain ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:53:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God

Ricberr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:08:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

alllouttagum ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:47:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bigotry. My parents are good people, but I think a lot of racism came from my grandparents' generation on back. I heard a lot of asinine comments within the confines of our home when I was a kid.

As my brother and I grew older, they have become much more worldly. I guess because it forced them to interact with people from all walks of life. In the end, we're all just buffoons trying to convince people otherwise.

cabeachgal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:57:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being a Republican.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:03:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I remember my dad saying to never sign your name on anything. So i took his advice and couldnt figure out why no finance company would come near me. Ah. Just one example of old school advice that really doesnt work in the 21st century.

ExistedMaster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:12:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:39:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it was never ok to lie. I'm a free man because I unlearned that nonsense.

mrglubglub ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:43:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to unlearn eating everything on my plate. The number one cause of obesity is parents not training their kids to know when they're full.

AecostheDark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:24:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Haha, omg yes. And having to have seconds because they had cooked too much and you couldn't waste it.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:06:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That God is real

Perrygrination ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:29:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Creationism. It didn't take much to see through that bs though.

Penny_Lane1234 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:29:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To vote republican

Not_The_Real_Odin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:57:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Literally everything.

Lettuce isn't green because god made it that way, nor is the sky blue because god did it. Nothing is because god did it, that isn't how the universe works and that's literally the answer to nothing.

People who are poor aren't necessarily poor because they're too lazy to work. We don't pay taxes because a fat black woman wants to collect welfare. We weren't poor growing up because you never caught a break, we were poor because you were too lazy to work and you blew all your money on get rich quick schemes and hookers.

Homeless people aren't homeless because they're too lazy to work, they're most likely homeless because they're broken and they need help. It's ok to need help and it's ok to help someone and show them you care.

God, the list goes on and on... I was 22 when I finally accepted that there wasn't something wrong with me because I could never accept the logical fallacies of religion. Twenty two years I spent thinking something was wrong with me because I had so many questions no one could answer and I couldn't stop asking them, before I finally accepted there wasn't something wrong with me, but instead something wrong with the backwards teachings.

I had to sit down and unlearn literally everything I had been taught my entire life and rethink everything to determine what made sense and what didn't... most of it didn't :(.

RockOfAges2112 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:18:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity.

geek_fest ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:18:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity.

n8saces ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:25:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Late to the party so I'm sure this will get buried, but I've been waiting for the right thread to finally tell this story. I was young and in the back seat of the car and I asked my dad "Why are those red blinking lights on those tall poles out in the field?" He says "They are there so planes can see them and don't fly into them by accident." Makes sense, a few more moments go by then I ask "So why are the poles there?" He smoothly replies "They are there to hold the lights up."

Here I am sitting in the back seat, with smoke coming out of my ears, trying to put all of this together. And I became so frustrated at my young age, I didn't keep asking questions because I literally couldn't think of more. I never felt so helpless and unable to process something. He answered every question with such conviction I didn't even question him. Plus he wasn't one of those dad's that joked around very much, pretty strict.

Fast forward to early twenties, probably 15 years later, and haven't thought about it much since then. I'm driving down the road and I see one. Then it sets in... That cheeky fuck.

OuterLimitSurvey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:23:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Conservatism. I grew up in a rock bibbed dyed in wool conservative family. I grew up where liberal and Democrat were insults and dirty words. Over the years life experiences showed me that all the premises that my conservative views were based on were not entirely true. Now I see conservatism as an ideology formed to rationalize xenophobia, backwardness and ignorance. Instead of being ashamed of their bigotry and narrow mindedness they flaunt it as self-righteousness.

Curlybash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That there is a Hell you can go to after you die

veritasaequita ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:19:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

That religion was real. It took me twenty years to be able to rationalize something so insane. Might as well add in the others like don't go outside with wet hair cause ull get sick. Don't go out in the cold ull get sick. Don't swallow watermelon seeds because they will grow in your stomach. And a lil fav of mine that so many people still believe, don't swallow gum because it'll get stuck in your stomach for seven years.

xoxoqtpioxox ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:29:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That liberals are the bad guys and to only vote conservative when I'm an adult.

Stanknuts ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:22:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well done steaks.

Bafa94 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:56:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

A belief in God. Unlearned it at 9, seemed about as improbable as Santa. Adults who don't grow out of religion have a widespread mental illness.

a_rude_jellybean ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:30:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

RELIGION

Rhinomeat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:34:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

Biggie2207 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:29:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

georgenebchar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:54:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion and guilt, like everyone else?

Can't believable I didn't already see them on the list of parent angst.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:58:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Guilt? Really?

TheSHITRAT ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:55:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Religion

Edit: the downvotes, lol

The_Celtic_Chemist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:13:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

Chrispayneable ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:31:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity.

Hashanadom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:32:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:32:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That there is a god.

WolfgangDS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:37:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

ThePizzaReaper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:38:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That god exists.

ManBearPig568 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:29:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The ideals of the left wing.

amazepaw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That gay people were some sort of an anomaly.

JohnQK ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:55:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You know "anomaly" doesn't mean "bad," right?

mindpilot ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:43:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, genetically speaking, aren't they?

Diversionthrow ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:20:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not unless the "gay gene" turns out to be real, no. Genetically speaking (in a very general sense) gay people and straight people appear to be the same genetically. It's not like there's a chromosomal difference.

I think the above person's parents meant it as a negative more along the lines of abomination: something not only different but also horrifying. Not just a rarity.

Toxicitor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:30:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But that's not what anomaly means at all. An anomaly is a data point so far outside the curve you ignore it for most calculations, isn't that what homosexuality is?

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:25:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

By percentage of population in the US there are more queers than jews, just to give an example. Would you describe jews as an anomaly?

Toxicitor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:29:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I have no idea about the percentages. Thanks.

Diversionthrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:48:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But that's not what anomaly means at all.

Which is why I said that's probably not the word OPs parents actually meant to use.

isn't that what homosexuality is?

No, not really. It's a minority, but it's not an anomaly.

Either way, there's no determination that it's a genetic difference, and that was my point.

mindpilot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:53:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Serious question, if there's no indication that it's genetic or 'hard wired', doesn't that give confidence to the theory that it's just a form of mental disorder?

[deleted] ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 23:31:58 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Trans woman here. Had to unlearn the toxic masculinity my military family insisted I emulate.

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ theonecalledzach ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 01:15:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also a trans woman, and I know the feeling. Im still having to unlearn some of the things my dad told me

rakki9999112 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 01:36:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus Christ just because he told you things about being a man and you decided not to be doesn't mean they were wrong!

bracing for downvotes. I have too much Karma anyway

vijeno ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:28:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Now you listen up and you might learn a bit.

They did not say that all masculinity was toxic. Or that everything their parents said was wrong.

They said that they were taught they needed to behave in certain ways to appear masculine, and that these behaviours were toxic and i guess the ways they were taught them were pretty damaging too.

Afaik, neither you nor I were present when that happened.

So kindly explain to me what kinds of assumptions I would have to make in order for your reply to make any sense.

My_massive_dingaling ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:36:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

condescension and being wrong just makes this comment even worse!

vijeno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:22:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hooray for brilliant reasoning, providing arguments, and quoting your source.

My_massive_dingaling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:46 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

why would i quote a source for that comment???

vijeno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:14 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You don't even realize it when you claim a fact? Brilliant!

My_massive_dingaling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:10 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i claimed no facts?

vijeno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:12:50 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You claimed I was wrong.

My_massive_dingaling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:40:14 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

LUL redditors sometimes LUL

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ theonecalledzach ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's a difference between "here's how you change a tire", and, "if you don't live this hypermasculine lifestyle, you're wrong for however you do live". And, being trans isn't a choice, it's not "deciding" to not be a man.

rakki9999112 ยท -23 points ยท Posted at 01:49:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just downvote and move on, I don't want to hear it.

kantostartershirt ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:56:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I doubt they wanted to hear your comment at all.

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ theonecalledzach ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hear it enough to begin with, one more person's not a big difference :P

Bloodloon73 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:59:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is the best attitude to have for anyone. Don't let words get to you, they don't mean anything.

rakki9999112 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:59:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Positive comment

Wow, thanks everyone! It means a lot!

Negative comment

I mustn't listen! Nothing negative can be true! lalalalala

Bloodloon73 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow, thanks everyone! It means a lot!

I disregard those as well. They also mean nothing. Just like loser's trophies (2nd place and beyond).

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 03:19:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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rakki9999112 ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 05:06:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Then should I add that the minute amount of people that like to think they are Trans have severe mental illness and should be treated for it? Perhaps that would trigger them too much :((((

vijeno ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:32:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well then you would be brazenly wrong and contradicting a whole field of research, and I would challenge you to explain how another person's feelings or decisions about their gender are so threatening to you that you instantly have to go ballistic and lose any decency the moment someone just mentions the fact.

Seems to me like something you might want to unlearn.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:21:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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unsurpassable ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:52:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Playing the devils advocate but don't you think that this right here is the problem with this generation? A bunch of pawns that are worried about how everyone feels. Being offended doesn't get me out of the bed in the morning or pays my bills or writes me a check.

kantostartershirt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not worried about how everyone feels, but everyone sure is worried about how they feel.Think about it.You wouldn't want to be ridiculed if you had cancer or some shit, cause it's not a choice.

unsurpassable ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:02:51 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wouldn't want to but I wouldn't be doing what you're doing right now and trying to instill your ethics into someone else through a screen. I wouldn't be crying and playing the victim of bullying. Being offended doesn't make time stop.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Consider the opposite argument. Who are we to deny possible treatment if there is a mental component? Whats the harm in pursuing it? Not every issue is black and white. Consider all avenues.

rakki9999112 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 02:40:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's become what the downvote button is for! :o

kantostartershirt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:23:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Then I don't get it. Why are you even replying? Please tell me. I'm deeply invested.

rakki9999112 ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 07:01:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Because it's always fun to add fuel to the shitstorm that is fucking retards (that really belong on tumblr) and their Fee-fees :(

Fuck, now I'm triggered ://///////

Diversionthrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's for people who aren't contributing to the conversation. Your first comment was, those following were not.

Seems like a proper use to me.

rakki9999112 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:58:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Become

The downvote button in colloquial usage has BECOME a "No", "I disagree", or "Fuck this guy" button.

You show me a community on reddit that follows reddiquette, without using the downvote button for that, and I will eat, quite literally, a dick.

beccaonice ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 03:34:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You are a garbage human being.

[deleted] ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 02:50:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why are people downvoting this? Fuck off.

KidBuu55 ยท -20 points ยท Posted at 05:15:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Upset because people don't want to participate in your fairytale.

vijeno ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 06:34:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wtf do you mean by "participate"? It's another person's life, you don't have to do anything other than leave them in peace.

Multiscoop ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:49:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Okay come on now... I don't care what you think about gender politics and whatnot, a person being trans is not something you have a say in. That's their concern. It's not a fairytale. Don't be such an asshole when what they do with their lives has absolutely 0 effect on yours.

KidBuu55 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:06:49 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I'm being an asshole because I'm not catering to someone's fantasy, in what we know to be a mental illness. I'll pass on whatever it is you're smoking.

Multiscoop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:57:52 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But it's not that simple, when someone has gender dysphoria, they can't just set themselves straight and decide to ignore it. It doesn't work like that. If they want to get sex reassignment surgery, that's their business.

Besides, why do you get so hostile about it? It has no effect on you. Don't worry so much about it... you'll lead a happier life. Let them do what they want.

inviteycoyote ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Stuttering :(

guardianmadball ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Santa

geared4war ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait. What?

guardianmadball ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:28:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Santa Claus

purutiger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That bank FDs are best way to invest.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pennsyltucky politics. I could educate you libtards let me tell you.

rippel_effect ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That Christianity is the only thing to believe and alcohol is evil

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They glamorize messiness as indicative of creativity. Now my relationships are suffering because of my (inherent) disregard for my and other's things. I hate being "that" housemate who leaves my shit everywhere for others to clean up.

DoctorHolmes23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism.

Source: Asian raised by old parents.

StubbornAssassin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I was clever

RedTeamGo_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everything

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I hope they at least taught you the right way to shit

Wedley131 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The foundation for learning all of life's mysteries.

DozySkunk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That hard work and integrity will be rewarded with success and respect.

(Granted, without them, I couldn't respect myself.)

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I had to finish my plate to be done with the meal. Portion control is an important aspect of healthy living.

misfitrightin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The wrong rules to Sudoku

link_to_the_post ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Money doesn't buy happiness and that beauty is on the inside.

At least I was raised with a good personality...

chelqui ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Blind patriotism.

CatPatronus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm not as selfish, stupid, or as bad as I thought I was. My parents aren't bad people but my mom is so judge mental and lashes out that she made me feel pretty shitty at times.

musical_throat_punch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:51:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to be racist and abusive

el_monstruo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cleaning your plate

spookymulder420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:54:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

racism

heyvina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We hold our emotions in and just act cold and spiteful towards each other while the distance is growing every moment.

Manhgo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To always listen to adults.

GodzillaLikesBoobs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

listening to them

KaKeeshka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

LSD Is the worst drug known to man and will kill you.

hefeguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That my Dad's thongs were actually called flip flops

take_my_waking_slow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:00:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's always better to do it yourself without depending on others at all. Now i find that asking for help is one of the more interesting parts of accomplishing things.

Serverindisguise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That cops can't clock your speed if they are driving, because their radars will pick up their own speed instead.

Toxicitor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:01:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Won't it pick up your relative speed?

Serverindisguise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:29:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That technically makes sense. You would end up getting clocked for going like 10 in a 65. So you would get ticketed either way.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:10 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Provida" also works while driving... Watch an episode of "Wegemisbruikers" for reference..

arsmith531 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"The Truth"

myphoneisoff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to learn that it's ok to get mad, it's ok to defend yourself, it's not normal to get yelled at everyday, it's not normal to have to wait till midnight to eat, it's not normal to be playfully punched everyday, it's not normal to let other people treat you like shit just because they're older, and that it's not a mother/sister right to go through you things.

Also I had to unlearn everything my father taught me about driving.

BabyFossaMerchant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That 'a pair' meant 3 and 'a few' meant 2

dieselgandhi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To take everything personally.

edwartica ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A potted plant is not a porta-potty.

squintina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:58:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

?!!

granite_the ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To spank your kids; I tell my kids what spanking is like and you'd think I was telling them some sort of urban legend story.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That my Dad has all the answers, and is never wrong. Just accept his decision, anything else is disrespect.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sex.

mymamaalwayssaid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That people say "paper towel" and not "towel paper" - they were immigrants who learned "toilet paper" first.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:12:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
  • All drugs are bad.
  • You must respect your elders.
  • You must love your family members.
Lobanium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

I learned quickly once I was on my own that you don't eat a steak well done with ketchup.

For the record I eat my steak medium rare with just a touch of steak sauce now.

hmscoachhardin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Any meat well done is not that great. I had to learn it too. Also, A1 is not necessarily the only thing placed on steak.

squintina ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:56:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Chicken and pork should be well done.

OrangeBall523 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:02:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

pork doesn't actually need to be well done.

squintina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:37:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No? I was always told you could get trichinosis from undercooked pork. Apparently it is more uncommon than it used to be. Is rare/medium rare pork better tasting than well? I think well cooked pork is pretty good.

OrangeBall523 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:30:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

trichinosis isn't really a thing anymore in the developed world at least. Practically eliminated. Medium rare pork tenderloin is amazing.

hmscoachhardin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Referring to all cuts of beef. Chicken and pork are obvious.

squintina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:31:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It might not be that obvious to redditors just learning how to cook.

lilac2481 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here.

KungFuFantasy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm a shitty person.

davemchine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hard work is rewarded.

LuckyDuck99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My whole fucking life!!!!

scruit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad was pretty racist.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Liberals literally want to destroy America.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"A good steak is fully cooked"

I'm still recovering from years of steaks that taste like rubber.

Rydakule ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to tie my shoes. They showed me the method where you make two loops and tie them together and I used that until I was 25 I think. One day I was buying hiking boots with my GF and I was trying them on in front of her and the salesperson and they were giving me this weird look while I was tying my shoes. I went home, googled the usual method, taught myself and never looked back.

XSkeletonKeys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everything. My parents were horrible.

disatisfied1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That minorities and gays were "bad."

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eat all the food on your plate.

I unlearned it. Lost weight. Relearned it - put weight back on. Am trying to unlearn it again.

Tassyr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"You are a worthless fuckup."

... Still workin' on that.

C12901 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yelling. Well, I didn't learn it really, I just knew it didn't work. And that lead instead to some early relationships failing in simple shut down of emotional response when something wasn't ok (but to be honest that not ok thing was being with the wrong people that cheated, so eh, wouldn't have worked out anyway. I just didn't teach myself correct ways to emotionally deal in those times and it just harmed me worse as I had no ok way to manage it). I later learned that nothing ever gets better with raising voices and to talk things through as best you can.

Mofofett ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the microwave doesn't beep at the end to warn you about the last remnants of escaping radiation from a cooked meal.

totalyrespecatbleguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To always clear my plate, seriously I had to learn how to let myself judge when I was full.

Imissmybear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Clean your plate

richardec ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm too good for that girl. She's using me.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't have to eat everything on my plate. If I'm full I'm full

shellwe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Since my parents had an unhappy marriage for all of my youth that eventually ended in a divorce I had to unlearn what their idea of love is.

lilac2481 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here. My parents divorced last year when I was 26. For as long as I can remember, I never saw them show affection towards each other and I thought it was normal (and my mom wonders why I am not emotional or very affectionate). Also, there were other reasons such as keeping secrets (mainly my mom) and she found out stuff that my dad did five years ago. Plus we hardly had people over to our house. Both are to blame for the divorce. My mom said it was good for the first 12 years or so and that's it. She waited until after I graduated to divorce him. My dad did not see it coming and neither did I, so imagine my shock when she told me. If I ever get married, I don't want to have a marriage like my parents had-I don't want to have secrets.

swansonsfinest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

IMSamZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have a mirror directly in front of my toilet and when I was still potty training my parents decided to incorporate it into my learning. Basically when I was ready to wipe, I would stand up, walk towards the mirror, turn around and bend over and look at my butthole from between my legs. Ever since learning that technique I would always stand up and turn around to wipe my ass until a couple years ago when my friend was in the stall next to me and asked my why my feet were positioned the way they were.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being pinched will result in cancer.

mechterp10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:29:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pronouncing "idea" as "idear"

ezzerby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To judge people by their appearance.

Unrelatedly, that I was destined for success.

BeanzTheTurtleHerder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Driving. My mom taught me how to drive. 13 years later I have decided she is the worst driver I know. She taught me to drive an automatic with both feet. Then I met my future husband and he threw the e-brake every time I used both feet. Eventually I learned and with experience got much better at driving than my mother.

SolitarySysadmin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:28:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do you mean a foot on each pedal, so left foot brake, right foot gas?

I really prefer the predominance of manual cars in Europe, especially for learning to drive in. It's not like you learn to drive a manual and then have to learn how to drive an automatic (apart from occasionally slamming the brakes on when you're looking for the clutch in a rental car)

BeanzTheTurtleHerder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:59:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, left foot for braking, right foot for gas. Essentially I rode the brakes all the time. She still does that. My poor husband is always changing their brakes for them.

squintina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Egads she must go through a lot of cars.

MyBigBadBurner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That a job could only be obtained by delivering a resume in person.

lilac2481 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ugh, same here. I graduated college last year at 26 and I am trying to find work. Once in a while it may work, but I have to network and send out my resume via email. I hate it. I wish job hunting was as easy as it was for the Baby Boomer generation. You actually started at the bottom, gained experience, and worked your way up.

CivilianConsumer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to not spend ourselves into poverty, food stamps and welfare. I'm not on welfare yet, but saving is a hard lesson and almost inconceivable for me to do.

her_gentleman_lover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's is not ok to show emotions, and that you should just bottle everything up because it's no one's problem but your own. I'm still working on how to properly display my emotions and talk though my problems with my wife because my problems affect her as well. It's hard having to lean how to talk about your feelings.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:34:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother taught my sister and I not to trust or depend on any man.

Although that was not the worst thing to teach us, it has made being married to a man even more challenging. Each spouse in a marriage should depend on each other to some extent.

Luckily I married a good man and he is very understanding.

whomeme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:25:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good that you found a good one. My wife and her sisters were raised that way. Even after many years, my wife doesn't really depend on me for anything. and if there's anything she wants done, she doesn't really trust me to do it. It's...difficult at times.

allthebatman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sarcasm. Blunt, Harsh, Too near the truth, Sarcasm. I am ashamed at how long it took me to learn that most folks are put of by it.

C0rdt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being a pessimistic judgemental asshole.

thumpymcwiggles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That leaders are more important than followers. Many times, being a follower is as important as being a leader.

EqFox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Always tell the truth.

wewanttoshareyou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism. I'm a white female from the south. Very ignorant people. When I moved north I learned a lot and deeply regret who I was and hate thinking about my old self. I was so unaware how much they affected my thinking. I honestly never knew any different. I can post some examples of things the taught me/said to me that were unaware to me racist.

Toxicitor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:23:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Please do!

tiltsk8t ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:40:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Procrastination. Learned it all my life, never had a problem. Now I struggle to get any work done at all. help me.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Poor discipline, poor eating habits, poor manners, etc.

Most of my childhood was fucked.

dicksandgiggles69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Heaterator".

OrangeBall523 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:09:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

for radiator?

BluesFan43 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

Iron_Knickers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:43:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to talk to people in public. Idk whats wrong with my parents but their social skills are bad

squintina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"only chumps pay someone to do their taxes"

DARKESTMEAT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother always told me that the shorter busses were called "pickle busses". I didn't learn that they weren't called pickle busses until high school... Just never questioned it.

Miscumunicatiom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to and am still teaching myself money management. Luckily my SO is pretty much a financial genius and he helps me figure shit out.

jerry-springer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism.

throwaway125d ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Albeit Indirectly, but my parents gave taught me horrifically bad money management skills. My mother calls herself a "bohemian" which is just code for hoarder or knickknacks who is more concerned about art and literature then mundane everyday things (such as rent and bills) and my father spent his entire life living paycheck to paycheck and always being in debt. I leaned that it was ok to be sloppy and cheap. And when your bill is due you can simply write a check for the amount you don't have hoping that it will be deposited in your account before the check clears.

p3rviepanda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racist remarks...

FancyJDUBZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That guilt tripping people is a normal, ethical way to get what you want.

Enden31 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Always listening to my parents

Fibonacci_fan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom told me that kidneys are behind the shoulder blades...I didn't understand why people called it a kidney punch until I took biology, and they discussed basic human anatomy.

operator10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mine Couldnt: Teach me about real love. They didn't have it. They had 50's - 60' s situational relationship (got pregnant, did the 'right thing'). As I grew, I eventually discovered real love. Then each one got better and better. These days I love so many. Wish my folks had known that. Happy as fk I do...

Alejandro4891 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

sadly, i've been starting to see that hard work doesn't always pay off. that's one thing my parents always taught me, but it's just not happening to me.

warrior2012 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents always taught me that family is the most important thing and even though I love my parents, I don't love their parents. When you were not there for the first 10 years of my life, don't expect me to want you there during the next 10.

brashull ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to avoid conflict

tkosmider ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not pronounced "worsh", but "wash."

LetRBudge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not to put eggs into the disposal.

InSovietChicago ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the 80s was a good decade for things in general...

Cooperjmartin724 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That anything that disagrees with their southern baptist views is very wrong: Gay marriage, abortion, even the concept of Karma. When I recently had a discussion with my dad and I said "what goes around comes around" he decided to tell me that it was God who got to decide how bad it comes around. I thought that was fucked up

cajunjoel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to be happy.

FightClubLeader ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Alcohol is inherently bad. No, alcohol can be bad, but so can pretty much everything.

hehememesrgud ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Basically I thought the world was incredibly strict based on rules I lived under. Wrong.

onlycatscare ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism. Not so much from my parents as my extended family. I thank the gods most of my cousins turned out ok.

xcamdacopx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Homophobia

R-nd- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have social anxiety and I'm shy, and my mum had to fight to get me to talk at all. So now I talk TOO much :(

energeticmojo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That people will step on you if you're kind to them, and suck up to you if you're mean to them.

That people will want your attention if you don't give them any, and take your kindness for granted if you do.

My mother associated herself with the wrong people and through her advice ironically made me do the same.

PalpableMoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism.

dredriksalkon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To always do your best and go above and beyond.

Working at Walmart taught me that this will just get you nowhere but fired. As soon as you do something nice and go above and beyond, they 100% expect it from then on, making your job much harder for every day doing.

queenfool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My father is a narcissist so I have a lovely collection of behaviors that I did not learn were hurtful until my late teens, and now (at age 22) I am still working on unlearning.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Double negatives.

Villagebot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:58:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Co dependency.

GreenLightMeg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:01:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is a hard one for me and I'm really trying, my mother was emotionally manipulative and always made me responsible for her moods.

So.. just because someone is down/angry/upset etc doesn't mean I have to fix it, I can be there for them but I'm not responsible for them.

metalonrye ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:01:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Drugs are NOT the answer. Your life struggles will not be solved by a pill. My mother had her first ritalin prescription framed in the kitchen for fuck sakes...

Medications are good, but they should be seen as a temporary relief from your current trauma so you can get help to live with this in your daily life. Go to therapy. Listen to them.

OrangeBall523 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

sometimes properly prescribed drugs are the answer, to be fair.

metalonrye ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:07:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am on properly prescribed medication. It has made a difference. However, the culture of drug worship I came from is a terrible way to raise a child.

krypton86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:02:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cooking. I had no idea when I was a kid, but they were terrible cooks. Case in point, last time I was visiting them I sautรฉed some onions and my Mom was terrified that I was going to burn the onions because I'd been browning them for 30 minutes straight. Then I realized, "Oh my god, my Mother has never actually browned onions before." Now I know why I don't mind crunchy onions in recipes; that's all I ever had as a kid.

booper_dooper_balls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:02:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That dads are mean. I have an abusive dad that is an alcoholic and wants to do nothing but drink and fight. I'm still trying to tell myself that not all dads are like mine because usually whenever I meet a friend's parents for the first time I'll be completely comfortable and talk it up with their mom and then completely shut down, get out of the way, avoid eye contact and make myself as small as possible if their dad shows up.

CoffeeMermaid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:04:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That my body was supposed to be hidden under clothes & I couldn't be in love more than once

Hates24168 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:04:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The casual racism, homophobia, and sexism from the previous generation

A_Flawless_Victory ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:05:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That fan death was a myth

Libramom72 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:06:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That good girls had to be home before 8:00 p.m., cause some how what you did after 8:00 p.m. was bad. Ha ha I did bad things before 8:00 p.m.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:06:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My eating habits. Mom has been obese my whole life. She is convinced that if you go to McDonald's and get a chicken sandwich, it's significantly healthier than a burger, one of those types. I'm in my mid twenties now reteaching myself proper healthy eating habits and ignoring her "well it's a GOOD source of 1,000+ calories in a sandwich."

Dookie_boy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is a grilled chicken sandwich that bad ?

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:27:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well no...unless it's smothered in mayo and hold the lettuce. It was just the first comparison I could think of.

ShamelessFox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:08:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The grilled chicken sandwich isn't that bad. The problem is it often comes with loads of mayo/dressing, fries, bacon, and/or cheese. That ends up being the downfall.

Mistress_Ahri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:06:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They believed that fat kids are adorable and they forcefed me until i was used to eating alot so i was chubby and overweight from when i was 2 until i was 14 that i looked at the mirror and realized how disgusting i look. was hard to go on a diet while they bullshit you for looking like a skeloton while being 145 lbs as less than 5 feet 14 year old boy

androoog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eating four times a day. E.g. before school, during school, right after school, several hours after school.

That's pretty much it, though!

ninjajazza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Anxiety.

BridgetteBane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Despite what my father taught us, Cardinals are NOT "red jays". it started off with my dad teaching that they were called red jays as toddlers, and my mom not correcting is because it was cute. It stopped being cute when we were still saying it years later. Now it's hilarious because anytime we say it, my mother gets immediately man and says "I could KILL your father for teaching you that!". Every. Time.

terminal_anonymity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You go to the doctor for every small ailment.

dollystarlust ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that i'm responsible for other people's actions and emotions. constant guilt. to avoid conflict. giving my opinion usually resulted in yelling and threats and sulking for days so i stopped doing anything but agreeing or staying quiet. i still have to fight the urge to run away and hide or make myself as small as possible when there's conflict around me, even if it doesn't involve me.

ImmortanKenneth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Finding a woman sexy is sexist. Thank you Northern European 2nd Wave feminist mum.

OrangeBall523 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:17:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Finding a woman sexy is biology. Being pissed that a woman doesn't care weather or not you find her sexy is sexist(of course I'm not assuming you do that).

ImmortanKenneth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:20:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Finding a woman sexy is biology. Being pissed that a woman doesn't care weather or not you find her sexy is sexist

Well yeah. Unfortunately, my mum didn't quite see the distinction, or if she did, she didn't explain it. Sexual = sexist to her. I'm not sure how I managed to get conceived.

OrangeBall523 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She's not alone in her madness. There are "feminist" bloggers who claim ALL penis in vagina sex is rape.

ImmortanKenneth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, it's ridiculous.

Mind you, I have no problem with feminism on principle, if it's taken to mean the belief in the equality of the sexes. It doesn't mean that I think they're the same, but I think no more or less of either men or women for being men or women, and we need to respect each other and ourselves.

So I have no time for either your nutbag misandrist feminists or your nutbag misogynist men's right's type. I think they're two sides of the same coin, and both hinder genuine social progress.

That said, my mum wasn't the worst of the worst, she was just a bit confused about what she actually believed, going too far in some respects, and she obviously softened over time. But yeah, it took a good while for me to get over some of the shit she used to up with.

FreeShampoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have the desire to eat EVERYTHING on my plate even when I feel sick/full due to the eating habits pushed on me as a kid. I'm still pushing through this, but it's really nice to know that I don't have to stuff myself at every meal, and that it's okay to throw away food.

storybook18 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We were not allowed to be angry, anytime we showed anger whether justified or not it was smacked out of us.

It took me a long time to finally stop bottling up all of my anger, I still need to work on it as I bottle up a lot of anger that is directed at the world around me and things I have no control over but I was able to stop letting people walk all over me and stand up for myself. Of course this led to a lot of friends abandoning me when I would demonstrate mild annoyance or justified anger at transgressions. And some issues when I stood up to overbearing bosses but I guess it is something a lot of people my age where taught and is ingrained in out society.

madsci ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That winning an argument means you're right. It doesn't. It might mean that you're better at arguing or that your partner just doesn't want to argue the point, but it doesn't mean that your point of view is valid or that theirs isn't.

Also, being right doesn't equal being happy. A relationship isn't a contest.

seems-legit_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They say "unthaw" when they mean "thaw". Took me till i was about 20 before i realized they were wrong.

Koiston ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That marijuana is a gateway drug

ShadowlandsProd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not my parents fault, but my cousin told me about bloody marry, and that shit still creeps me out to this day. It didn't help that I was raised in a really superstitious household that believed in ghosts and all that crazy shit...

Ouma_Shu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thay im a smart kid. Im not. It gets to you and then my work habit fell off cause i was disillusioned that i didnt need to study as much as other kids had too.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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ChaosWolf1982 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

tarantula hawks, vicious flying spiders

sounds like a badass idea for a D&D monster.

VestalMatron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That credit is bad. I was trained to buy only what I could afford without loans, which in principle is good but doesn't prepare you for the real world and the necessity of a credit history.

bishopolis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That everyone in my country was equal. Nice try, but it's not happening.

PETEJOZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Racism. Homophobia.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:22:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When my mom and grandma gave me the sex talk when I was like 6, after explaining the basics, my grandma made sure to explain what gay people were and then slammed her fist down and said gays were an "ABOMINATION." Then my mom asked me like 2 years later if I was gay because I didn't play sports and loved to read/draw a lot. I'm really lucky I'm straight, I guess.

ChaosWolf1982 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Only reason that I can respond to my bigoted Mom's asking "are you one of them?" without baldfaced lying is that she always means "gay" and has no apparent concept of male bisexuality (not unlike a lot of other folks, including those within the LGBT community, ironically), so I can say "no" and remain honest.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This reminded me of a friend I had when I was 8 named Joseph. His parents would go out of their way not to shop at Wal Mart or buy Disney products because they "hired gays." It kinda flew over my head when I was little but what stores were they shopping at that they believed refused to hire gay people?

Obamacareislove ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:22:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That being gay is wrong and a sin

tjrogers810 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:22:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That Polack was an acceptable term for citizens of Poland... Plot twist: my whole mother's side is from Poland

SIMULATIONTERMINATED ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:22:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I was a piece of shit

weetruck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Selfishness.

Still working on it..

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That racism(almost entire family), alcoholism(entire family), and physical violence(good ol dad) are all normal things that every family does.

spingus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That there is us, our family, and then there are "fluff people" The insinuation was that we, more specifically my father and anyone he specifically deemed worthy, were the only people of value to society.

Mysta02 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be a complete testicle-less pussy to your wife and let her run and ruin your life.

I love my gf and we discussed that we would be equals many times when we first got together.

I won't be afraid of my partner like my father was.

Also, being absolute garbage with money. I had to learn to save and not spend outside my means..

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:24:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

according to my mom, the only way to eat hamburg/steak/chicken is when there is absolutely no red/pink left.

I thought meat was supposed to be dry and burned. When I started dating my wife, we went out to dinner with her brother and he ordered the steak rare. They all laughed when I asked what that meant.

Im a cook now.

Sam9745 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:24:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eating everything off my plate.....my dad grew up in a family that had a hard time making sure there was dinner on the table every night. Because of this I was not allowed to leave the table until every morsel of food on my plate was eaten. Now, feeling satisfied or full doesn't matter if there is still food in front of me. Doesn't help me in my efforts to keep my weight down.

ChaosWolf1982 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That LGBT people were pedophiles and rapists and deserved to be hated, ridiculed, and abused, because they weren't human and they were worthless and going to hell anyway.

Notori0usPIG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism, Religion, Politics, Diet and Tolerance.

Just off the top of my head.

OnePieceTwoPiece ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I guess there was a scare of little kids being sucked down a tubs drain when the water was being drained. My mom believe it and didn't like me sitting in the tub while water was being drained.

I believe what she was scared of is known as Delta P and is a serious thing to worry about when underwater welding. You wont be sucked down a tiny drain as an infant/young child.

jerdub1993 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being gay is wrong.

SalsaRice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Putting butter on a burn..... it didn't make it feel better :(

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Who was your dad, arwin mewes?

koolaid_chemist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm special.

Worstie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That your head is heavier then your body.

That's what they told me at least when I would peak from a 6 story apartment.....

FranklinFuckinMint ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't stand up for yourself. Ever.

Gurrb17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:27:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

WE HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF COMMENTS AND UPVOTES.

iamnotnotarobot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism and homophobia. To be fair, it was my dad who taught me that. My mom had a hand in helping me unlearn it.

sculptedandpure ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

PowerfulDinoSlayer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Never, ever question authority

Take responsibility for everything even when you were not wrong

Don't expect anything fair for your hard work

"We" are people who don't achieve things or deserve anything good. Be happy with achieving nothing.

My parents have really fucked up self esteem and believe being humble and groveling in life is the best way to be. They aren't religious, I don't know why they are this way. They somehow expected me to not be like this while simultaneously shoving it down my throat.

casupn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eating most meals with a spoon and fork.

machotoast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Apparently it is NOT okay to call black people "monkey". For context my dad called a man that in the car with windows up and I thought he personally knew the gentleman to be an energetic guy so I proceeded to call a black friend that in like 8th grade after watching him back flip.

blueridgegirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

PanzerPancho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you can't cure everything with VapoRub and 2 Tbl of olive oil.

Noob3rt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Laughing at bullies. It does not help. It only makes it worse and in the end accomplishes nothing but making you look insane.

volk203 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I don't matter

Stinks_McGee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

XgrizzleyadamsX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hormel microwave bacon is real bacon. Also, turkey bacon tastes the same..

RndmRanger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's ok to talk in the car

UserAndAJunkie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Tradition for the sake of tradition; the world changes.

AbominableShellfish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Beating my kids.

Idothehokeypokey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm not stupid, worthless, lazy, good for nothing. Well, they were a little right about lazy, so I work on that.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism.

--TheLady0fTheLake-- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism and homophobia. Now I just call my parents out on their bullshit when they say anything. I'll be damned if my kids pick up on any of that from them.

studiomccoy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Parenting

MHG73 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That because other people have problems I should let them walk all over me. My brother has Tourette's and was basically allowed to do whatever he wanted to me and my sister and slack on his chores with no punishment because "he can't help it" now I have a really hard time saying no when someone asks me to do something for them or standing up to someone when they are rude or do things to hurt me.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the lines behind planes are not from the planes scratching the surface of the atmosphere

toodleroo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They taught me to be a republican.

freakinweeknd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

YeahBuddyDude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I sort of learned from my dad that if you work hard and do your research, someday you'll catch your big break and you can make a bunch of money and retire early. Since becoming an adult, I've learned it's much more about catching lots of little breaks and letting that build into the life you want.

InsanePowers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to drive. Apparently the way my mom and dad drive is very very wrong.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That homosexuals were sinful perverts.

androsphere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad has always been super impatient when it comes to repeating himself. So for most of my life I've been repressing the need to say "What?" or anything that would cause someone to repeat themselves. So I typically remain confused unless I can piece together the sentence with context.

My first girlfriend was impatient the exact same way, which didn't help (and mishearing is frankly inevitable with Skype calls).

So now I'm learning to be okay with asking people to repeat themselves, especially if they're mumbling or slurring words. It's easier to clarify things quickly and move on than it is to backtrack later on.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:13:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I have to be my own person and not controlled

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Rightly so

hazmat7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"everytime you see a dog in the street, grab a stone and be ready to throw it at him"... 30 years later he's still afraid of any dog.

golfalien ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Put Salt on everything! My mum cooks White Rice with about a kilo of salt. But why?

billiarddaddy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Most of it.

SavagePenguins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How the fuck to pronounce coupon. My mom grew up in urban DC, and my grandparents are both from Virginia, so they have funny ways of pronouncing things.

Also, I don't have to correct everyone's grammar and prove that I was smarter than them. Working on the former, but definitely learned the hard way with the latter.

OrangeBall523 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:28:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do they say "cue-pon"? my ex said that and it drove me nuts!

SavagePenguins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:53:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes! It took me forever to break out of that!

thetexasunicorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

1) Quiche is Jewish food

2) a penis and a vagina are called a "boy bladder" and a "girl bladder"

3) Asians have slanted eyes because they eat so much rice

4) air pressure is the only thing keeping our bodies from exploding.

5) (insert all the crazy shit I learned growing up in a conservative baptist home in TX)

hazmat7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:38:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I dont have to do any effort/work to get what I want, just ask for it... well you know how that goes in adult life.

amberyoshio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:38:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That babies should always be placed on their stomachs to sleep so they don't choke! Also that you should give sugar water to babies in between feedings if they get fussy.

jreeman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:38:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That there is some sort of unseen set of rules in the universe that dictates everything we do as 100% right or 100% wrong, no room gray area or interpretation. I'm out of college and when I go home to visit and leave the house to see old friends she still tells me to "Be good" instead of have fun or something like that

pantsandashirt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Where the line is on when food is too old to eat, bad personal hygiene, how not to dress like a cussing hurricane just happened and you picked the random things you could find in your size from a salvation army bin, to give up when something wasn't fun/easy, total acceptance of anything/one, social interaction, how long to go without eating, money management, not to say your thoughts out loud, how many days to go between showers, how to be a bad parent. #Raised by wolves.

DeadPoolDad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Their racist ideas!

VincentFreeman_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do what you are told, do good in school, get a good job.

BigFatPerson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Clean plate club.

lalaisacupcake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That respecting authority meant you didn't stand up to it, even if it was wrong.

Young_Economist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

People who don't believe in God are very sad.

Stahrk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fiscal irresponsibility, pridefulness, the inability to admit when wrong. My parents aren't in a bad spot, but they've done a lot to hinder themselves from being well off, and are currently stagnant, unlikely to retire ever. And it's mostly because they won't admit that the decisions that they've made in the last 10 years have really hurt them, and they should suck up their pride and move on.

I had to stop and reassess my own life about a year ago and make some difficult decisions in order to get out of my own stagnation. I'm glad I did it, but it has made life harder for me. I would have never started making progress on my life goals if I hadn't done so.

They're wonderful people, but they need to really take a hard look at themselves.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That milk builds strong bones

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:00:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It has calcium in it, and bones can become fragile with little to now calcium in a diet. Milk doesn't build strong bones, but rather helps make sure they stay strong.

flat5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That people that don't dress and talk like me are "bad apples" that were "raised wrong" and are damaged people who are forever ignorant of the one true way to look, talk, dress, and behave.

sk8termatt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you have to wash your face... caused me many years of horribly irritated oily pimple covered skin, until I just went cold turkey and stopped washing my face again. Slowly went back to normal. No more acne, but I have to live with perminant skin damage caused by various acne products!

shadesofblack07 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to be a good, submissive, obedient wife.

catz99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The melting of ice was apparently called condensation

Sonnibilli ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you eat raw cake mix you get worms, too many biscuits/ cookies you get worms etc.

catty_wampus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you had a big lunch and aren't very hungry for dinner, then ice cream is an appropriate dinner

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

lucky! for me it was "no dinner, you go to bed at dinnertime"

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In a conflict, go tell the teacher instead of standing up for yourself

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What I actually liked doing as opposed to the things I did just because I got signed up for it.

I played just about every sport cept football, and really only enjoyed soccer. I played trumpet in Jr high not because I wanted to but because my mom did and I got a trumpet thrown at me.

When I hit college and had the freedom to choose what I did it really fucked with me. I was so used to just doing stuff because I was supposed to, that having the freedom to not do something I didn't want to meant I went overboard with it and didn't do much of anything.

stayclose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

basically all of creationism. i grew up fundamentalist christian. but there were still a few things i just never caught until i was way too old. i didn't find out that i didn't have one fewer rib than men until i was like 23. it was embarrassing.

nuniinunii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents are Chinese and I grew up hearing Chinglish. Rather than saying "mirror" correctly, I said it like meer-row. Also, I wrote my Fs completely wrong. I wrote it in the Chinese way you tally mark to 5.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents and I recently had a conversation about how they regret teaching us to finish everything on our plates no matter what or we were bad kids.They learned the habit due to being extremely poor and realized later it just led to most all of us over eating and making ourselves sick at resturants. I still have issues stopping when I'm full.

Cinnvext ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the Government was there to help me.

dwitman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Evangelical creationist born again fundamentalist Christianity, and the abuse of children under the guise of raising them in a proper manner.

militantcookie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That colds are a viral infection and you'll get sick even if you are not cold. I still can't convince my educated parents that this is the truth.

Drama_Derp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to find the weak spot in people and exploit it.

Reptilesblade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Any advice when it comes to money. I learned pretty quickly that doing the exact opposite they recommended would always be the best path for me. It has worked every single fucking time.

DrCam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That Putt-Putt is a game instead of a sport.

swallow_hard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Finish everything on your plate."

This served to get me used to big portions and be overweight when I was a teen. I started jogging and eating healthier at 16 and it changed my life.

uncookedbead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not to drink, it's been pretty easy going to a UW school so far

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To not make noise during buttstuff or tell anyone about buttstuff. It's really not that big of a deal.

alexapharmic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Homophobia.

GoatCantEven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you don't have to nag and be critical of everything. Still trying to unlearn that because parent still can be extremely critical when I want support. I realized it when I made my cousin feel bad about something she was super excited about.

Beeclef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Clean your plate". I still feel guilty about wasting food I don't eat, but I've gotten much better about just throwing it out.

Hi92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I could never talk back or argue with them.

blazingbuns ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Making decisions or eating any canned food. I'm still on the process of grasping the fact that I'm old enough to do whatever I want.

sd51223 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was taught not to be proud or selfish, but to such a level that until I was like 20 I never could accept praise and had almost no self confidence. It took the friends I made in college to teach me that believing in yourself a bit is okay.

Misty_Rose98 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That love doesn't really exist and that every man out there wants to take advantage of a woman to only leave her alone with a kid later. I may have had a bad relationship experience, but at least I proved that I could love somebody :/

unseen-streams ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That my emotions, desires, and limits make me a weak person.

Laughingsky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everything.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents taught me to make excuses. My girlfriends parents taught me otherwise.

mindpilot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The controversial sorting is so fucking edgy.

Elvisgonewild ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That conservative was the only way to vote

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother was an immigrant. I had to re-learn a few words like "library" instead of "liberry" and salmon with a silent l.

BriSy33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
  • Every problem has to be solved with shouting and anger

  • It's totally alright to sell your perscription drugs for money, Not like that shit's illegal or anything

  • Video gaming is a shitty thing that only pedophiles and wastes of life do

  • Anybody who's anybody has a girlfriend.

  • The best time to cut the grass is at 5PM in the middle of a blazing midwestern summer.

  • All adults are to be met with complete respect and even asking why is the shittiest thing in the world

  • That i should cover up my vagina because i don't wanna do something dangereous like run an active lawnmower by a big ass hornets nest

  • My dreams don't mean shit, I will do and become what they say no matter what.

  • It's totally alright to blow money when you don't have it, That's not how debt happens or anything

  • It's okay to be a dick as long as you think you're right.

ontopofyourwife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

myself

annettefunicelo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to hate myself, bc they hate themselves ๐Ÿค˜๐Ÿผ

LarryCachaira ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you have to eat everything on your plate ๐Ÿฝ

andyforever7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents are pretty religious so I had to look into their homophobia and found out it was unjustified. So homophobia had to be unlearned. Good thing I unlearned something so negative.

Jenny10126 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The names of things. Idk why but they call things by the wrong name and growing up my sibs and I all thought those were the real names of things until we went to school and got made fun of for calling things the wrong names.

Ex: switch instead of remote control NipNap instead of baby carrier Sock cheese instead of Parmesan cheese.

There are about 30 more but those are the only ones I can think of.

Abschiedsangeboten ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That standing in front of the microwave causes cancer.

I know it doesn't but I'm still uncomfortable when I stand in front of it

thetexasunicorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My friend's mom had a line of tape on the floor and we weren't allowed to cross it while the microwave was on. She would seriously watch that line like a hawk whenever I was there and we made popcorn or whatever. She also would only use a phone on speakerphone and not hold it to her ear.

brekar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Clean up everything on your plate!

coolguyfrogs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That relaxing on the couch doesn't make you weak, lazy or incapable of having a successful career.

JinxsLover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Both of my parents are really bad procrastinators and overweight so now I worry constantly to not end up with those two qualities.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That accepting food from other people isn't insulting. My parents led me to believe that if my friends parents offered to feed me, that I then owed them. It wasn't until later that I realized turning down there food was basically saying, "I'm better than your food."

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hang on to that thing in case you need it someday.

pinkat31522 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To never take no for an answer...

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you ask my wife, everything.

mymisplacedpants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The terminology for exiting a vehicle. My parents would say either "get down" or "get off." Wasn't until I stopped at a gas station I. The middle of a date and politely asked my date if she was going to "get off." The look on her face made me realize I said something wrong.

white_android ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If my mom taught me it was probably wrong and I forgot it.

hotubcerealbowl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:52:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's ok to be a depressed shut in that solves every problem with a pill.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:52:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty much their entire example as parents. I'm fucking terrified that I might turn out to be like either one of them when I have kids, because they're both fucking awful parents.

The main one they have in common, though, is the "I'm always right and you're always wrong no mater what, because I'm the parent". And that's pretty much exactly how they word it, too, as if being the parent warps the nature of reality to make their bullshit correct. Once they've decided something, not matter how uninformed or just fucking stupid, that's it; they will never even consider the possibility they weren't instantly right.

wildbluyawnder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:52:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That other people will stop teasing you if you ignore them. No they won't. Worse advice ever! You have to punch them to shut them up.

maxxrulz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:52:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not having to finish everything on your plate

PM_ME_FAVORITE_SONGS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:52:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

More = Better

Expensive = Better

Foreign = Better

roastbeeftacohat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:53:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Friday was movie night

switched between moms romantic comedies and dads murder mysteries

never show a sensitive boy romantic comedies, this is why I lost my virginity at 24.

TheHonestLie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:53:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That Gay people are mentally ill and that I'm allowed to slander them. :(

KweefKween_Deluxe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not to trust your spouse

Slumpo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My birthday.

batsam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have two foreign parents with two very different accents. As a kid, I picked up a lot of weird pronunciations and phrases from them - ex. "pitcher" instead of "picture," "thurkey" instead of "turkey," "eish cream" instead of "ice cream," "sangwich" instead of "sandwich," etc.

I had no idea I was saying any of these words wrong until I got to school and had to be corrected.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

who my parents were

younique-yosername ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

black people suck

chankaaaa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This link went from unlearning something to how to play monopoly

minamo99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The typical men work women do cleaning rule. We cant we both work and both clean? -.-

strawbarry5k ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My name

Bighollab0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the approval of my family is what I can only do

Rhodechill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad's got slight autism but undiagnosed. He tries so hard to blend in normally but it always stands out a little. He taught me a lot of incorrect social things I had to unlearn. He also taught me that money is everything, when in reality, money is little.

8654 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That drugs are bad and will ruin my life. Drugs were great and instilled in me great values. I'm sober now, but without drugs I wouldn't find nearly as much value in my life

number__ten ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cooking everything to death. I've gotten much better at enjoying pinkish meat and not overcooking noodles to the point that they are textureless.

crispybeesebits ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's only love if it's conditional.

r00t1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They told me all my toys and baseball cards would be worth money someday. I hoarded them all, even happy meal toys, and nothing is worth shit.

harlord12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That they love me

semtex94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To never question authority. We still argue about it sometimes

PM_ME_UR_SKILLS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:57:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not that they taught me not to, but we never tipped for pizza delivery. After delivering pizza for a few months, I shudder thinking about all the times they dug around for exact change...

fragglerox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"As soon as you can, put as much money -- more than you can afford, until it hurts and then some -- into a home. Real estate always goes up."

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They accidentally taught me to hate my body, because I saw the way they hated theirs and I'm still trying to learn how to love it

luckybone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bad money management

killeroftherose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To care about what people say.

For example my mom always said to me when I was 13 and a tomboy, that no one would like my style and people will make fun of me.

Now I realized, that I shouldn't care and follow her standards. And I realized she was just like a bully.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lying to maintain appearances is not the best for healthy friendships

moeburn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I was the "smartest child they have ever known".

I'm a fucking dumbass.

Twinkle-Toes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to unlearn that killing Praying Mantis's was illegal. Biggest load of bullshit ever.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you can walk into any company or hospital, talk to the manager and get a 50K job.

dynamityler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everything

happynatty1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That expressing emotion was a sign of weakness. Turns out that's the biggest strength we have. #unlearnhell

vogonicpoet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That Batman & Robin was a good movie.

SvanurPalsson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

drugs are bad

cameronswendt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I would only be successful if I graduated college. Any dreams of being an entrepreneur or in the tech industry were seen as equivalent to aiming to be a pro athlete. Years later and living in Silicon Valley... finally got an apology about that one. #Midwest

theoriginalsauce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom told me at a very young age that you can't get herpes if you're married.

atzbani88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dumb pronounciations because they're from Boston and I grew up in Brooklyn. Learning how to spell dresser "drawers" after having known my whole life they were dresser "draws" was a really difficult time for me.

crs0820 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to talk to my significant other. Fuck that's depressing.

Highly_Tingled ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To place all women on a pedestal.

someboredprick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

troubleleaving ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being right is more important than having a healthy relationship. Being right excuses you of any wrongdoings. Also, being a parent means you're right, and never have to apologize for anything.

nxrcissistic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

my mom taught me and my two siblings that the moon that you can see in the morning isn't actually the moon and it's just the "reflexion" of the moon. It was hilarious when I called her out on in when my then 12 year old brother told me that.

tke439 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

During a bad relationship my mother once told me, "it's okay to be selfish." This has led to some... "Turbulence" with my wife.

the_other_pink_meat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the moon appears bigger when it's low in the sky due to atmospheric lensing. Got this from school too. All wrong. It's an illusion folks! Very compelling, but still an illusion.

coolcatthemusical ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Self confidence

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the Sikh people who lived next door weren't Hindus. We were friends with them and explained to our parents that Sikhs had 10 gurus and they went to a gudwara and were pretty cool kids!

devil-woman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That "respect your elders" = never disagree with them. Still struggle with that one sometimes.

Ironicbanana14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eating habits.

Whiskeylung ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Chew 50 times before you swallow each bite. That shit takes a long fucking time - 10 times is enough.

FrancisCastiglione12 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:03:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus. Pretty sure 20-25 is standard for overdoing it.

sweetjPDX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Relaxation is different than laziness. You can take a break. You don't have to work or toil your life away to be productive and successful.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A lot of really bad relationship communication tactics. Still working on unlearning all that.

fb5a1199 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My father is a degenerate gambler. I just got home from the casino. Uh oh

SilentJoe1986 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"If you have nothing nice to say then say nothing at all"

Fuck that shit. Telling your kids that is training them to be doormats. Sometimes you have to say not nice things to people. It's called standing up for yourself.

Janet is being a bitch. Should I call her out on it? Nope that wouldn't be nice. I'll just bend over and take it.

boomerangarrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That everyone is reasonable and open to discussion and rational thought, and generally pretty chill.

I love how I grew up, and I love the relationship I have with my family. We all communicate with each other well, we can have intelligent discussions... My family just has relatively easy and open communication. It's amazing.

But then in so much of the world, people are assholes, and they don't like it when you say "hey, you're being an asshole." They're friendly to your face and then say nasty things when you aren't there. Nobody wants to have a calm and rational discussion of opinions, nobody is willing to listen to someone else's point of view.

It's hard out here in the rest of the world. I wouldn't say I've unlearned how I grew up, but I am a lot more careful now than I was a few years ago.

Whisker_dan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Parents only taught me the double bunny ears to tie shoes. I just started training myself to use the single loop technique. Still catch myself starting with two loops sometimes...

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I taught myself the double loop...is the single loop that much better? I still use the double loop today.

Whisker_dan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:39:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not sure which is better or easier... People just always said it was weird that I did the double loop.

[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:44:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I just watched like five youtube videos on the single loop method. I'm enlightened. I'll try it next time...although my sneakers remain tied forever, so next time I buy a new pair of sneakers..

MagicalJuices ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

ShadowStone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to approach recipes for food.

While I understand that knowing certain quantities are important in dishes, following them exactly to a tee is just stupid. My mother gawks if I don't measure out a teaspoon of salt, spouting in a holier-than-thou tone that "[She] NEVER just eyes her ingredients or times cooking times in her head", and is somehow better for it. I've picked up cooking and a splash of alcohol here, some drizzling of sauce there, and X shakings of the spice jar make for a better dish.

Plus then you can adjust it on the fly. Oh, I feel like adding some more onion this time around to see how it takes, or maybe marinating the chicken while I do some homework and come back to it whenever. That and eyeballing cooking meat gives much better results than letting it cook on a timer, because you can keep beef at the right rarity, or not overcook chicken.

AngelofShadows95 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

10 , no 5 years from now ,Some people need to rethink their disregard for authority.

radgav96 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That being gay means I'll go to hell. That I can pray the gay away. That physical and mental abuse are part of a normal relationship. That not going to church and on a mission will mean that I won't be happy.

sysadmin001 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I was disposable and defective.

sysadmin001 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I was disposable and defective.

thisis20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

eating habits

Jennrrrs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I was the only human on Earth that didn't believe in a god and there was something wrong with me.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They taught me that you're on your own and can't rely on anyone for anything.

It wasn't directly, but just the way I was brought up. I never had a decent relationship with anyone because of this albeit a romantic relationship or a simple friendship.

I had to teach myself that it's okay to rely on people, and that you don't have to be completely on your own in life. I've been in a healthy relationship with my girlfriend for about 3 years now and I've never been happier.

BulbStar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That mentally ill people weren't sub-human

mrbomax123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I never really understood that I could have opions on small things. It wasent till I was about a freshman in highschool that I realized that I come just say that I didn't like a certain food.

OneDownFourToGo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wouldnt say 'unlearning'. My parents are both very against taking risk (financially) which isnt necessarily a bad thing. So I was always taught to save money in the bank etc as its the safest place.

When there are better ways to invest and utilise your money, yes maybe more risk but with enough research that risk can be minimised.

defanged_destroyer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That my feelings are invalid.

undilyeted ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Screaming "Shut the fuck up!" Is not an acceptable way to end a conversation.

CantHelpButWander ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That since I was good at school there wasn't any need for me to work hard. That getting a min. wage job wasn't worth my time. That being 'involved' in as many things as possible would somehow benefit me.

This set me up for a lot of disappointment in my first few years of college.

peanutburg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you have extra money, spend it. You'll never know when you'll have it again.

This has taken a while

MrDiddelz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To argue in a manner that is beneficial to a conclusion, not in a way that's beneficial to the other party walking away personally devastated.

To explain, my family argued a lot. No one likes anyone really so when we argue things got personal and we'd fight until someone walked away while the other lay on the floor or someone walked away in tears from what someone said. I've now carried the non violent method into my adult life and often argue until the other person has been attacked personally to the point they leave hurt. I hate it.

I will say that my fiancรฉ has been incredible with this though and has really helped me unlearn the trait. I still do it though from time to time.

UnbreakableAlice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I had to have a relationship with them because, "Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee."

They both are emotionally immature, one a narcissist, the other is mentally off in someway that has not been diagnosed, nor do I have an idea of what it could be, only that they are off...

CrispyTablets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Never put mascara on your lower lashes.

prettygnarly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Never give up."

I'm not talking about being a quitter for all of my life. I just had to learn to call it quits when I really need to.

soboness5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No sex in the champagne room.

anchorsaweiigh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom taught me to be scared of dogs which I think was pretty fuckin rude

amberoze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Narcissism...

Kingsmen99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom and dad always used the word ignorant instead of using the word rude. It took me 16 years to realize I was using the word ignorant wrong. Truly embarrassing.

candidporno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Worrying about nothing.

Getting married.

Being scared of jumping at opportunities, then missing them. Then dying a life of regret and suffering.

reincarnateddildo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I can wear shorts and tank tops and not be a whore.

Blikatin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I wasn't allowed to "invite myself" or in other words ask to hang out with a group I wasn't directly invited to. I didn't have basically any friends until the middle of high school and I'm going to college literally tomorrow and am still working on it.

jlm25150 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That children don't have to fear their parents. My mom never really used love and compassion to get her children to behave, but was rather cold, intimidating, and distant.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I don't deserve nice things without feeling guilty about it. I just bought a new truck that we can easily afford and I feel so selfish and guilty for doing it. I've been telling my wife for days that I am sorry and she keeps telling me to stop and that I have earned this.

When my brothers and sister found out they were appalled. They asked me what was wrong with my 13 year old suv I told them nothing was wrong. They couldn't fathom why I did it, it was so unnecessary. They asked if I thought I deserved it, then the other said that this is what is wrong with America, people think they deserve something. I snapped back very heavy handed and told them that I earned this new truck and it was the first new vehicle I've ever bought for myself. I had bought many new cars for my wife, but I always drive the beater.

Anyway, I haven't unlearned this guilt that I have, but for the first time I actually realized I have an issue with it. It is also very hard for me to take compliments, I immediately deflect. I think they are related.

Buzz4693 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The wrong way to say milk and pillow. It's milk and pillow, not "melk" and "pellow".

Mattamue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Rowdy your woofers

babyraspberry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That parents know best; they are always right and you should never disagree/disobey because it's disrespectful.

yellowdevel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wash all shirts together in laundry, wash all pants together.

exyccc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents taught me to fucking argue with everyone basically, took me about 10 years to unlearn it. Marijuana and LSD helped me see the true monster I actually was. Thanks drugs.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Gender inequality. I suppose it's more common, but my parents are definitely stuck in their ways when it comes to what a woman should be doing in today's society.

PM_ME_UR_BACK_DIMPLZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I had no common sense.

iamhungry1004 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you sit too close to the TV, the. Your grandparents will die. Grandpa died not long after. Sit as far from TV as possible now

Rezzone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I am a weak, sickly little thing that has no hope of a normal future.

grantmoore3d ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Was taught that you had to have a plan to kill everyone around you because you never know when they were going to try and kill you. My father was a tad paranoid and obsessive about self preservation.

Had to teach myself that is okay to trust people and that there's a difference between self defense and crazy. Had a rough early 20's unlearning bullshit they taught me and letting go of the resulting emotional hangups. Doing pretty good now in my early 30's though!

Kalessin- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism.

Chongoloco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To not do something nice for someone I care about then hold it against them later like they are in debt to me.

Callingmadmimi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:13:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

M

wcholmes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:14:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Their opinions and views of everything.

OhBee86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:14:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to parent.

coachrx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:14:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You must chew up your food to receive any nutritional benefit from it. I hated the way the inside of butterbeans tasted. I'm also not a fan of the texture, but I love to add a little salt and swallow them whole.

goodmorningohio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:14:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Homophobia

Indiareddit11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you have to either become a doctor or an engineer to be considered successful.

JinnZhong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That money is the root of all evil. No, it is not. It's a tool you use to get things in life. Nothing more.

MoXxXxXx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't talk to strangers on the Internet.

Edit: one word

shitthistakestoolong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents used sugar and sweets as rewards. Im still attempting to unlearn it.

TaurineLine719 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That not every meat I've eaten was chicken. Me and my sister only liked chicken so we were dumb enough to believe whatever meat we were given was chicken.

harowkun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
  • That people are born the way they are and there's nothing you can do about it. Therefore, we should take psych pills to help fix these bad genes.

  • That life is all about studying, working, get married and start a family.

  • Speaking of work and money, they're both more important than fun and happiness.

  • Don't talk back to your parents. They know best, not you.

  • Do not show weakness to others, it's embarrassing.

  • Don't meddle in other people's problems. You don't have to be a bystander every time.

  • That I'm some sort of genius that can never fulfill his potential.

  • That I'll always be irresponsible and unappreciative, and should feel bad for all the work my parents put into for their children's sake.

  • Safety > risks, always.

  • Settle for material stuff. I learned it's ok to save money for trips instead of buying more TVs, Smartphones, PCs, redecorate the house, build a mini gym in your home...

  • Don't ever stand up for yourself if it means challenging authority.

  • That you should fit in as much as you can. Wear what everybody wears, have the same haircut as everybody...

naginarb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

imbued94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everything having to do with diet.

heyitsEnricoPallazzo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm a stupid, ugly piece of shit who will never amount to anything useful to anyone.

catnip666420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom told me it was illegal to have sex before marriage and I believed her up until I mentioned it on the bus in eighth grade and everybody laughed at me.

Lord_Ka1n ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being cheap. In my experience buying the cheaper product has never worked out, it would either not last very long causing me to rebuy it and spend more than a better version would've costed or it would just be generally unsatisfying.

These days I actually have a tendancy to actively avoid buying the cheapest option for any product.

iGoWumbo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everything having to do with driving.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some of the beliefs that I was taught for politics and religion and repeating what they said.

clamdever ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That vodka starts going bad as soon as you open the bottle so you should drink it all right away.

sactownredhead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If I went out in the cool or cold weather with wet hair, I'd get very sick with a cold or flu.

PonderFunk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To not leave any food on my plate.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

For a while they had me believing that Chicago had at one time been bigger than New York.

lagingerosnap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Their political views.

Scoates2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't mix ammonia and bleach while cleaning. Don't shake babies to get them to stop crying. Don't put metal in the microwave.

I can't believe I bought into some of this stuff. I'm an adult. I will put as much metal in the microwave as I please, and I can DRINK ammonia mixed with bleach if I feel like it.

Offtheheazy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can get a cold from being cold

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Eat everything on your plate."

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't hit bullies back. Took me awhile to realize I feel much better if I lay into people who are cruel to me.

RaptorsCdwoods ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There is no dumb question. Spoiler alert: There is.

IceManPyjamas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I was really smart. Led to me not working hard in my studies and just relying on being 'smart'. While I got fairly good grades all the way through high school, university is a little more difficult and I struggle to maintain a good work ethic for studying.

Rh1alt0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you work hard you will succeed.

ShitFaceDisgrace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to lite a cigarette off a stove

jeetkund0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Family values lol

kornerguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Getting an ass whupping should not take place AFTER the report cards come home. It shouldnt take place at all. I used to mess around in school and tried my best to hide my grades when evaluation time was near. In order for your kids to do well in school you need to sit with them everyday and help with their homework and learning. No point getting mad at the kid during report card time when you as a parent didn't put in any work either.

go_doc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

JupiterColdwater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To clean my plate at every meal.

I have this insane guilt when throwing away food now, thanks mom.

NihilistNary ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Whatever I had on or I looked like justified other people's opinion of me.

spiderlanewales ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
  • Racism.

  • The correct way to apply for first jobs. (I was taught the "go-getter," "call every day and demand a manager" approach. Once I cut that shit out, I went from stock grunt to assistant manager within a year at my first legit job.)

  • I realized that not all mashed potatoes were translucent like my mom's were.

mattemer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I can eat whatever I want. Whenever I want. Is that a good way to live? No. But, I can. I really first noticed this after working in a grocery store for a few years. Maybe about 2 years into it, I was stocking shelves or working returns, and put some of that deliciously crappy Duncan Hines cake icing on the shelf. Mmmm that shit is great. Wait a second. I can just eat this. Can I do that? Yes I can. Boom. World changed for me. (I did pay for it, so didn't change in too negative of a way).

I was right out of high school and could eat 20lbs of that shit a day and it didn't matter.

But honestly, once I had that mentality, I slowly started expanding outside my comfort food zone and realized that I can eat all types of food, not just the food they fed me. It seems stupid, but i had to force that mentality on myself.

twitchedawake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Saying "excuse me" when i burp. I still do it even when i am by myself. Its like an automatic reaction.

In a similar vein, when I was growing up, whenever I said "excuse me" to my mom, she would always reply with "There is no excuse for you." So as an adult when someone says "excuse me" to myself, my first instinct is to say "there is no excuse for you", but most of the time, they're complete strangers and I have to catch myself.

Dadentum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That if you hold in your pee your bladder will explode and you'll die.

iseekgoodvibes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I don't need to get over my depression. That I can go fight it and work through it. That what I am going through is real. Had to learn the hard way in high school coming home and being told nothing was wrong with me. I had to make the push and go get help. Best decision ever. I'm still hoping she finds the strength to get help herself and stop thinking depression is a weakness and see it for what it is. A illness.

Potato_Power46 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Always follow the rules

joshtempte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You know, religion.

Xealyth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

everything

meow_hiss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

That abuse and codependency are normal.

Aquaman314 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:22:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents really feminized me and my brothers. Taught us to basically be pushovers and doormats. Preached the whole "be yourself" bullshit instead of giving us the real advice: be(tter) yourself. Taught us that girls like guys that are nice to them and do things for them lol! Really girls like a guy with goals, aspirations, and muscles. Imagine that.

festivevomit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Ask your father...Men know everything"

murloc10493 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that i'll never gonna make it in entrepreneurship.

collinhill8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To not judge people. My parents are both in their 50's and it may just be me, but everybody in that generation is some form of racist and ignorant. My parents are class A judgmental dicks to people for even things said people cannot control. In about 8th grade I outgrew my parents and began to see people for who they were and understand not everybody is given an advantage in some aspects of life. My parents still don't understand the concept.

LeannaBard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism. I was taught the original pseudo-scientific classification tiers of races (white people are the supreme race; yellow people are lesser, but still okay; brown people are lower class and dirty; and black people are sub-human.) they didn't say these things out loud, verbatim, but this is the way they interacted with people. I was told if I ever dated a black or brown skinned person, I would be disowned. Asians were okay, but it was still best for us to stick with "our own breed."

This tainted all interactions, opinions, etc. that my mom had with me and others if they were non-white or discussing race. For a long time, I didn't know this was racism, and once I realized what it was it disgusted me and I've been working hard to check myself and make sure I don't have any internalized shit causing me to perpetuate racism even though I'm not a racist myself. One of my biggest social fears is doing or saying something racist and hurting someone just because I'm too ignorant to know better because of the way I was raised.

the2xstandard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That girls want "nice guys."

SweetDick_Willy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

About staying away from fast girls. My female friend in high school asked me why wasn't I fucking so many girls around school because alot of them wanted to fuck me. I kinda knew this but I was programmed to stay away from "fast" girls. I was trying to get with the virtuous girls. But then I had an epiphany one day. Why not do both? 10 years later, I see myself going back to my old way of thinking. It's been fun. I've had my share.

Slav_1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That super hot people are usually dumb. My parents would be judgemental to certain celebrities when they saw them on TV so I thought hot girls where all dumb. Then I found out most hot people are also smart and it was cool.

SamSneed1028 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:24:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That my bellybutton wasn't holding in my butt. I didn't need to keep it clean to keep my butt from falling off.

P.S. Still keep it clean though.

mamushi72sai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you love someone they love you back. The taught me about karma and destiny which really messed up the way I learned and experienced life as a kid. I had a lot of confusion as to why people I liked didn't like me and why I had bad things happen to me despite me treating everyone very well.

NorthernAvo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I was smarter than all the other kids.

iswronmemum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That kissing the opposite sex will get you pregnant. Believed that shit till I was like 15 (yes I was very sheltered until i started spending way too much time on the Internet)

des-tal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A beautiful double edged sword: selflessness

FyreFlu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I really haven't unlearned it yet, but humility... kind of. I'm not saying that you should constantly thrust your greatness in people's faces, but it seems to be a Midwest thing of being too humble to recognize and articulate if you actually are good it something.

Leftcoastlogic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Born in 68... Can confirm 70s... May predate that even

shanfranciisco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:26:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad never believed in being "sick". I could never have anything wrong with me. If i was sick I could never take a day off and rest, it was always "oh you're fine". One day I had really bad pains in my side and could barely move out of the fetal position on my bed. He kept yelling at me, angry, telling me to suck it up and that I was fine. It took him over half of a day to finally give in to take me to the hospital, where it turned out that I had 6mm kidney stones (average stones are 3-4mm). He ended up apologizing for that one.

These days though I will be really sick and still truck through my days without resting. Sometimes I have to remind myself it's okay to stay home from work or cancel those plans instead of suffering.

burninhashbrown ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:26:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

subtle/unconscious racism, unfortunately

misterdammit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:26:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That tacos don't generally have pickles on them.

That steaks aren't generally baked in the oven with golden mushroom soup.

That you won't necessarily get shot of you look into someone else's car while you're driving.

That it's weird to ask friends if their housecat has its rabies shot before you pet it.

bondjw07 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:26:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that's it's pronounced "across" not "acrosst"

rickwars19 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:26:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dad was in and out of work during my middle school and high school years and finances got tight. Even though I'm a working professional with a master's degree I still have to convince myself that it's okay to spend money on fun things.

AustinLMullins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:26:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
  • Formal education is the only means to a high standard of living
  • I'll never be able to afford that
  • Abortion is wrong
  • Gambling is wrong
  • Giving respect to rude/ignorant people because of something arbitrary
  • ....many many more
Marcellusk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:26:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm not an idiot, and that I'm not the ugliest guy on the planet

ThornDuMontfort ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:26:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Took me a while to understand not to freak out when I make a mistake, and that's how we learn.

Donkeyweasel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's okay to incur massive amounts of debt.

BitcoinBanker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Finishing my plate of food.

DanTheFireman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not taking responsibility for your actions. My mom still does it and it's the most frustrating thing I've ever dealt with and when I had a big problem with it I see how it actually made me look when I was trying to save face.

Qu4ttro87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just because it's on sale, doesn't mean you need to buy it.

SoftRedDoge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
  1. Once me and your father are divorced, that means you are also divorced from him. If you call him "Dad", or refer to him in a kind or respectful way, I will disown you.

  2. If you express or state any preferences, opinions or thoughts that I don't agree with or like, you are automatically wrong/ I feed you and give you shelter, so I'm right all the time and what you say or think doesn't matter.

  3. Masturbation is a problem that needs to be addressed and fixed right away. (She walked in on me touching myself when I was in elementary school and proceeded to stop me and shame me from doing it)

  4. If I don't talk to them, you don't either (She has a lot of estranged family members that are way more sane and reasonable than she has ever been, and I've realized this by finding them, actually hearing them out and spending time with them)

teh_fizz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I should always be improving my living conditions, be it finding a better job or just saving money for more important things, and no going out until all your work is done. So now I feel guilty when I go out during the week and not on weekends, or actually spend money on non-essentials makes me feel bad because I'm in a tight spot financially and that means all my waking hours should be towards doing essentials that don't cost money (applying for work, finding work, working, etc).

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents told me if I rubbed my dick too much it would eventually stop working.

CouthDecay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

accepting mediocrity

Nekopawed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom was teaching me how to drive stick shift. She told me I should put it in first gear before starting the engine then was upset at how I lurched the car at the beginning.

Had to unlearn that.

TaurineLine719 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I should be a servant to everyone else. If I did something for myself I was being selfish, etc

adrarina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That if I go to the kitchen I might set it on fire

alterego890 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm allowed to make something other than hamburger helper and take out food.

Fozinator103 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents told me to wipe my hands and wipe my mouth. The best way to dry something and not damage it is to dab at it, not wipe.

ActionHero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Finish all the food on your plate! There are starving kids on Africa!

RVinnyT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom told me that your left and right feet were the opposite of your hands. I thought my right foot was my left and vice versa until about 5th grade.

justbumblingalong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

passive aggressiveness. blunt honesty is waaaaaay more useful and fun as an adult.

DarksoulsRobinson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to communicate anger in a productive way & how to communicate needs better in general. It is amazing how long it can take until you even realize that you have picked up unhealthy ways of communication. And after that comes to unlearning which will take even longer. But I am much happier now.

Listening_Heads ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My folks believe that there is no point in saving money because something bad will happen anyways and wipe out the savings and much more. In their defense, they did suffer some catastrophic misfortune numerous times in the same decade leaving us desperately impoverished despite their having saved for hard times. It took me many years to realize that not everyone was always on the verge of catastrophe and that "spend it before something takes it" is a bad way to live.

sesasees ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Habits of working out.

My parents aren't lazy but simply lead busy lifestyles that don't include time carved out to go and hit the gym. As I'm trying to figure that out I'm having to unlearn how much time I think I have vs how much time I should devote to myself.

I have to say this: yes they are both obese and I don't want to be like that when I'm their age so I have to fix it.

Megs2435 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

1) Tattoos are stupid and I shouldn't get one and anyone who does get one is also stupid. 2) It's poor people's own fault that they're poor, they asked for it. 3) More money = more happiness. 4) You should care what the people around you think about you. 5) Marijuana is awful and anyone who uses it is stupid and is gonna get lung cancer. 6) You can tell someone's character by the way they look. 7) People who don't go to college will never be successful. 8) Success is measured by the amount of money and material items you have. 9) Doing spontaneous things is stupid, everything must be planned out exactly to the minute. 10) The world is just an awful place and there's no reason to try and create change because it won't matter anyway.

Puffy_Vulva ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That they love me.

vgbn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Funny how the question is for parents and most of the answers mention only mothers.

NemesisRisen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:32:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom taught me that "humans are always evolving, we used to have two stomachs, but eventually evolved because we only need one." I brought it up at a friends house once and didn't hear the end of it.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:32:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly, hard work, all kinds'a crap.

Fiddlestix22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:32:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That asking for help is okay.

To be fair, my mom didn't teach me that intentionally. She was forced to become very self sufficient when she divorced my dad. She raised my sister and I while dad was across the country and her parents wouldn't even help her when she was unemployed and literally maybe a week away from sending us to live with dad. She never once went on food stamps for welfare. Very rarely even went to a food bank. She pawned family heirloom jewelry over and over. I guess I just picked up on that as a kid. I've always been very self sufficient which is a good thing. But it takes a lot for me to ask for help. I think I might have cried at the thought of asking my mom to help me with my dentist bill even though she gladly helped me.

c312eal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:32:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to use chopsticks

infernophil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:32:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The heels of the bread are the most nutritious slices.

StarSpangledHuck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom would never let me or my sister spray febreeze, wear perfume, or light candles because she alcohol in them bothered her. Now that I'm seventeen and have my own money and a car I buy candles/air spray every chance I get and my car is cluttered wih perfume. Also my parents are reactive shoppers instead of proactive shoppers. Meaning for some reason they can't go out and buy toilet paper when we have one or two rolls left, they have to wait until someone uses the toilet and has to sit there while one of us goes to the store to buy some. I've promised myself that when I move out I'm going to buy a plethora of toilet paper and paper towels.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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efrique ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:48:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"When I was your age,

"... we had to lick the road wi' our tongues"

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They taught me to always ride a unicycle while juggling balls, but I had to unlearn that because I got hit by an illegal immigrant driving an ice cream Truck

horyo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to learn to carry a water bottle and drink water throughout the day.

To be fair, my parents didn't teach me otherwise; they just never really did this and never made me do it either.

FreddyFresco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom told me at 6 years old that a cure to being sick is playing video games. i faked sick more than normal only to play video games.

FixBayonetsLads ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hospital corners. Fuck that shit.

Also, I was years out of high school before it took me longer than 45 seconds to get fully dressed.

efrique ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When he's in a hurry (like if he's running late for something he really wants to go to), my son usually takes a full hour to get dressed.

I can take a crap, shower (including wash my hair), shave, brush my teeth, and get dressed in about the time that it takes him to take his shirt off (10 minutes).

If he's not in a hurry it can take him a good part of a day.

FixBayonetsLads ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:47:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, my father was a DI at Parris and all of his children felt it.

Vuddah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the world was a scary and dangerous place and that you can't trust strangers to be kind.

It took close to two decades for me to finally trust my personal experience and believe that the world is a fascinating and dynamic place and that most strangers are kind.

dragonnerd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Homophobia.

Zentopian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty much everything about driving.

I was confident I could finally get my license, after 3 years of putting off learning to drive. I decided it might pay to get a handful of professional driving lessons, just to make sure I'm doing everything I absolutely need to when I drive, rather than going by my mother's habits.

Laws have changed so much in the last 32 years, that the only thing I was doing right was staying in the middle of my lane. I was even steering wrong. It used to be that you had to steer a certain way, rather than the more natural, more effective, hand replacement method. Now there is no law against how you steer, so now I have to get out of the habit of steering like a granny (almost literally).

ComebackShane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That money was useless. My parents were hippies. Turns out money is good for lots of things.

knightfall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Finishing your plate. My parents were raised by dust bowl depression survivors and taught us we had to finish our plates even if we were full. I was never obese, but was overweight until I finally learned to quit eating when I was full. I still don't waste food, but saving it for later is not the end of the world.

sometimeyesteryear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My stepmom would say to me and my sisters to "mind our own business" whenever we got curious about why someone was doing something. Could be anything. I think we all just annoyed her so she didn't want to have a whole discussion. Anyway, now I don't know how to show interest in people and I am just the weird girl who doesn't talk much at work.

FiberWalkWithMe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Gossipping. It's something my mom has always done. I didn't realize how wrong it was until my now-husband had to sit me down about it.

IAmInYouRightNow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's the best practice to yell at people until you get your way.

Captain_Blunderbuss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

majority of family cooks most meat well done and told me im gonna get sick because i cook it medium etc

started eating healthily which meant i stuck to a very plain but healthy meal schedule and grandparents/mother telling me that its not right and im gonna get ill because eating the same healthy food everyday is a death sentence but eating fast food/take away every day is perfectly fine because its "varied"

needless to say my family aint so bright :/

opticon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm a goddamned clone of my father. I'm not.

Sanhael ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I shouldn't ever try to do what I want to, that I'll never get the job/position/lifestyle I want, that I'm not good at anything; everything I do is completely wrong, and the entire world is filled with people who are specifically out to get me personally. Nothing I do is interesting; nobody -- not friends, not family -- cares about anything that's important to me.

Hammered home from an early age. Some of it was probably unintentional, but there was a surprising amount of word-for-word in there as well. I didn't get a lot of divergent opinion, since I wasn't allowed to have friends over (anyone who was my friend wasn't good enough; they came up with horrible things to say about kids who were 10 or 11 years old, when I was likewise) and I was never allowed to go hang out with friends elsewhere.

t33m3r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We always ate ice cream from a cup. Then my white friends started asking why I don't use a bowl. To this day I do not know the correct way...

zoahporre ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:37:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

whatever is available and clean, youre eating ice cream, youre winning no matter how ya do it.

Keepinithot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mom told us to never flush toilet paper.

schoonr22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This raises way more questions about your home life. Like, at home or in public bathrooms or both?

the_sloth_bear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents were super christians. My dad was slightly racist and sexist, and both my parents denied facts. They're also super conservative. So, I was raised to be anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-evolution, and anti-global warning.

klaarkijn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Respect for the police.

cmrudy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ITT: Parents are fucked up

oceanceaser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism towards asains...

carpe-jvgvlvm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Self-freakin defense. Seriously I'm an average-thin female, and mom always said you ...had to go for the kill. (I've never killed; don't care to, but we were drilled on that in the event of an attack.) My family didn't teach any of that "disable and run" stuff they try to teach now (like wing chun). Nope: I learned all about how to expect the worst, appear calm, strike hard going for the jugular/eyes/etc that would literally disable someone ...to allow you to "finish". (Kill the attacker; don't run away unless it's necessary.) Also they had us with conceal carry by college.

And I know what my parents were going for, but my empathy meter unexpectedly turned WAY up in college (like, what if attacker was legally insane, or just a normal guy having a bad day), so I've been trying to unlearn "the kill instinct" (or "maim permanently" instinct).

I've had a few guys follow me home (I still conceal carry: they got arrested, and I got balled out for not taking the shot), and a third incident where a drugged-out dude held a gun on me at work when I was an intern (he was also just arrestedโ€”he was stupid, so I slipped away, called the police, and just waited; no big deal except having to go to court and everything).

But I've never been attacked. Except once sort of, by this drunk guy friend who is usually really nice, but he was huge, and older (like, way older, in his 40s), and it was at a loud party. I dropped him (easily, but mainly because he was that krunk). I had to: he was trying to take my top off from behind, looking like he was "dancing" but stumbling all over the place. Something kicked in, and seconds later he was on the ground. โ€”But AFTER he was on the ground, and he wasn't getting up (really really drunk), these other assholes wanted to "play the hero" so they dragged him out and beat him up a bit. I even tried to stop them, but the girls dragged me away... total nightmare.

He got injured; I felt like shit about it. Still friends (he apologized to my b/f and myself after he sobered up the next day), but I always felt bad about that. He had sort of grabbed me from behind... it happened SO fast that my "old lessons" injured his knee... it was terrible.

I'm all for self-defense, and hate rape and stuff of course, but when you've been "drilled" to react fast to hurt someone "well" (so they couldn't do it again, which was really the mantra I'd learned), it's hard to NOT react that way. (To be fair, my then-instructors were really good with guns, so you wouldn't have accidents, or get cocky and brandish just to look like a BAMF. They took it really seriously.)

EsmeChanel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad drives around with an open beer in the cup holder. I learned in college that having an open container was illegal.

mewdejour ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I am good enough.

Abderian87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm still struggling with unlearning my father and grandfather's meritocratic view of the world. While never directly being told, I learned in 1000 subtle ways over the years to see success as nothing more than what's expected and seeking help as a concession of weakness, failure, and inferiority.

I graduated college with a useless degree, largely because I did not seek out career guidance counselling, where they would have surely told me what I learned very quickly only when it was too late. I did not seek advice because by that point, I had internalized the idea that a grown man does it all himself. If you cannot do it yourself, you can't do it. You fail. Mistakes are mistakes, sure, but they're also a display of your lack of integrity and character.

My father and grandfather see the world in a way like this. The poor are poor because they didn't work hard enough, didn't think smart enough. If someone is successful, it's obviously because they put in the right work in the right way at the right time, and that's smart. There's no outside influence whatsoever.

I'm slowly putting together a life for myself, one that I want. At last. But even now, they wonder why I'm cautious, why I take a long time to put myself out there and take risks, why I don't make use of personal connections and resources where I might ask for help.

It's not easy to unlearn. It's not easy for me to ask people for things. I feel like I'm bothering them. I feel like I'm undeserving and exposing my shortcomings. I feel like I'm showing the world that I'm poor because I deserve to be poor, because I didn't work hard enough or smart enough at the right time. Of course, add to this that feeling insecure or worthless about these things is antithetical to the masculine ideal. Put another way, quit whining, pussy.

It's going to get better. I'm going to get better. They say you have to do it right 10,000 times to unlearn what you have learned incorrectly. The number of times I still have to get it right... are over 9000.

AndrewGoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to love. Specifically not how to. It wasn't until recently I realized how big of a problem it is, and how greatly it has impacted my relationships in life. Jeez I have a lot of work to do.

Kat82292 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Father has narcissistic personality disorder

Mother has borderline personality disorder

I had to unlearn a lot

I had to learn that it's okay to say "No"

It's okay to express emotion

It's okay to stand up for yourself

Its okay to cry

It's okay to be my own person

LayedBackGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism. My parents were never overt KKK types. Hated those type of people really. But I did not realize until I hit my teen years. Still fighting against that shit inside of me, and I'm age 50.

vdgift ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sit up straight (i.e. 90 degree angle at the pelvis). This is actually bad for your back and has caused lower back pain for me.

critical-thoughts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom doesn't wash her hands while cooking, so all the bottles, jars, cabinets, and handles for EVERYTHING is sticky with raw meat or whatever else happens to be on her hands while cooking. Things take longer when one has to wash their hands after messy tasks...

wildweeds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I was worthless garbage and nobody would ever love me or value me.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to manage money. My dad was a high earner, but he pissed away every cent on whatever he could. So naturally I did the same, especially when he died when I was 19 and left me a small fortune. I burned through that in just over a year.

Still haven't quite gotten a grasp of it, but im always learning.

froshbrodude1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Every little "rule" I was ever taught about parallel parking is bullshit. My mom swears by some method that involved visualizing your rear windshield split into thirds. I could never do it. Then I started to just feel it out and now I'm excellent at it. Thanks for nothing, mom.

darkjedidave ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That doing a anything more than holding hands with a girl and I'll be punished by god (crazy Baptist family). Now 10 years out of the house, one brother is dead from OD, one is in prison for robbery (do pay for drugs), and myself only me and my sister have been surprisingly been a success.

MarkFourMKIV ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents would never throw anything out, just in case you will need it later. I used to do this as kid too. Even into my early 20s. Took me a while to realise that they are hoarders and I was become one too.

I am now a minimalist. Everything I own can fit into one small suitcase.

Instantflip ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Negativity. I am still learning to forget.

ArgenAstra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's okay to fail. In high school I was able to get straight As pretty easily without trying and my parents would also talk up how great and smart I was and my my entire self worth started to revolve around the grades I got and I became a perfectionist who happened to think he was smarter than others. Then when I get to college and classes start to become actually difficult and I started to see grades like Cs on tests it completely shook me up and I became completely paranoid my entire freshman year. It got so bad that I started the habit of not looking at my grades on tests and such because it would only make me manic thinking about my gpa. This was so stupid because I could never tell how I did or what I needed to improve on and only made me have more stress in the long run. I still need to work on not letting my entire being revolve around my gpa but I wish I was just never led to believe that anything less than perfect was just unacceptable.

VulpesFennekin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not illegal to cut hair without a license.

saepereAude92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Caring too much about other people's education... one is not a lesser being if they never heard of Ulysses or some other stuff

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I have to eat rice with everything.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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jmbraze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism and homophobia, mostly

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to parent.

xipainkillerix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To care about what everyone thinks. How everything will reflect on me or the family. Fuck that approval seeking behavior.

Afanadord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to talk to girls. My Colombian dad's definition of flirting was to go up to a random girl you thought was attractive and "go in for the kiss" Even when I was a kid I thought this was weird and I had to learn flirting 101 by trial and error in high school

JayrassicPark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother told me asking questions, especially lots, was good. All the introverts and sarcastic misanthropes "love me".

Achiral94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not using the ac ever. Growing up, my grandmother never used the ac in the house or in the car. Her defense was it cost too much, uses too much gas and 'governs the engine'. I'd rather be cool than feeling icky and nearly passing out from the heat!

MASTERpegu1n ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Raised by Hispanic parents I learned Nike was pronounced like bike

Soy_the_Stig ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One of the summers not long after 9/11, we flew a TON (For reference, all this takes place in the USA). Me being diabetic, I was always bringing many different needles, vials of liquid, etc. Needless to say, I got used to having to arrive at the airport 3 hours before a flight because I knew I would go through every inspection in the book. Say what you will about the TSA, they're much more efficient with diabetics nowadays. I will still show up at 1 for a 4 o'clock flight, despite the fact that it's been years since security took more than 30 minutes.

4k_info_wanted ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:43:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism - I grew up in South Africa as a white guy. Moved to England and unlike my youth in Africa where i was kept away from the ''Kaffirs" & ''Apes'' (YES I KNOW, this is what i brought up to call them), I met a lovely black girl in England and had a thing for her, and made friends with many different skin colors. My parents however would never let them come visit.Decided when i was 17 not to label anyone as society dictates anymore, All skin colors i see as people now and don't like being called a white man but rather a person. Morgan freeman even had an amazing view like this ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2d2SzRZvsQ ). One of my favourite actors of all time.

2LinfinityAndBeyond ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:43:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That success is the only reason to live. That if you fail at anything, you were never meant to do it. If you didn't live up to your goals or failed any of your task, you will live the rest of your life as a failure. I lived my whole youth terrified of getting bad grades at school.. I had a breakdown and cried because I had a B on a math test. In 6th grade. The school called my dad and that night my dad was pissed at me and made me do pages of math questions up to midnight, while berating me and calling me a failure multiple times.

I later learned after lots of failures, rejections, and losing that everyone is capable of rebounding, of coming back up. Success is a lousy teacher, it teaches people that they can never fail (Bill Gates).

daraand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:44:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eating everything on your plate.

404IdentityNotFound ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:44:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't talk when two grown ups are talking.. I am 18 and I still wait there like an idiot for half an hour just to tell my boss that I am done with the work he gave me..

unothatsrite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:44:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If we got into an argument or disagreement of any sort, we would just walk away, go to our separate parts of the house, and when we saw each other again we just pretended nothing happened. No inkling from mom that anything ever happened. So I've been with my SO for 12 years and I'm still learning how to effectively have a constructive conversation following an argument. I have also realized I never had to learn how to apologize for my part in an argument either. So that's been fun to figure out...

thehappywanderers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Always peg shirts under the armpits. THIS IS NOT A RULE MUM.

eva278 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That steaks are best when cooked well Always wondered why people loves steak Then I had a steak done medium rare It was nothing short of life changing

diabeticporpoise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not writing on my behalf here. But this thread reminds me of showing my ex-girlfriend the subreddit r/raisedbynarcissists for the first time. She had a full blown epiphany about the way she was raised, in her violent and unstable home, after pouring through that subreddit and seeing all these stories similar to her own and was able to realize to herself, "wow, this is fucked up". She was always terrified of becoming a parent just because she was worried that with the way her parents treated her she wouldn't be able to learn how to be one herself.

Felkyr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you cannot have friends of the opposite sex unless you're sleeping with them, and even then you shouldn't treat them as regular friends.

Though, the parent who held those morals was somewhat of a sexist and fiend.

My social circles are a healthy 50-50.

Lomanman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My roommate doesn't think you have to take the food out of your dishes when you put them in the sink. I have to unlearn or catch a body.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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XxSliphxX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is so much like me it's scary. Grew up almost the same way. I'm 38 now and still have issues with self motivation and I have to force myself to look people in the eye when i talk to them even now it makes me uncomfortable to do it but i make myself so i don't seem weird to others.

tricks_23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That spicy food was nice to eat. I'd never had chilli con carne, fajitas, any form of curry, Worcestershire sauce or even had pepper on my food before I was 18. I went to university and had a chicken tikka masala. It opened a whole new world for me.

IAmEdwardSpoonhands ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad taught me how to drive and said the right foot is for gas and the left is for brakes. I had to relearn that the right foot controls both...

ClownUnderYourBed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to learn the real theory of evolution after my family and the Catholic Church convinced me that the theory was bullshit because if we came from monkeys all monkeys will still be changing into humans.

valicat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not strictly my parent but my mother's boyfriend of seven years told me over and over again that being fat was unattractive and that I was fat and I should lose weight while I'm still a child or it'll only get harder when I'm older. I entered my teens with serious body dysmorphia. I couldn't imagine someone would be able to fit their arms around me. I cried at night because I thought no one would ever want to touch me, let alone could ever love me. I didn't fully dismantle this complex until I was in my twenties.

meh_good_enough ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Washing chicken under running water before cooking it. If anything, it makes your kitchen more unsanitary from spreading bacteria all over your sink and anywhere else the water splashes.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:47:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to be a manipulative drug addict.

conanap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:47:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The table manners.
We lived in Hong Kong, and then moved to Canada. Table manners are completely different here.
And not specifically taught by parents, but by society as a whole - I was confused on my first day when no one said "enjoy your lunch / meal" or something like that before eating. I thought they were rude af.

Tagichatn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:47:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That taking the highway is dangerous and should be avoided. Now I get to places much more quickly!

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:47:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Clean your plate... dropped 50 lbs

oddthingsconsidered ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:47:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Like many others in this topic, I had to unlearn atrocious eating habits and an inactive lifestyle. Unfortunately, the best primer for unlearning was watching how terribly my mother suffered in the last ten years of her life. HAES advocates would consider her a success since she made it to 68 but many of those years were miserable and so full of pain I don't know how she endured it. Watching that makes it easier to learn new habits if those habits mean you won't go through similar pain.

NUNCHUCKS1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:47:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm good at things because I'm just smart and talented (and never because of all the hard work I put into it).

rangamatchstick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:48:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Just buy a girl a drink and she will like you".....NO

NiveusT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:48:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Negativity

MyriadMuse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:48:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ah well as a foster kid, one of my foster families were very religious and kinda put up an atmosphere of gay people didn't exist. Only men could love women and only women could love men. So for awhile I never thought being gay was a real thing until I was adopted into a different household and met gay people in middle school.

I'm sorta queer? myself in some ways so it definitely confused me for some time.

qatmandue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:48:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not to say "I love you."

But they say it now that I'm older.

WWE_Official ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That wanting or needing validation is weakness and that your accomplishments/dedication isn't something to be proud of. Oh and also that if someone compliments you it doesn't mean that you're the way they've described you or that you are good.

randomredditor87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to relearn the age of the universe and earth from 6000 years as told by my mom and friends to 13.8 Billion years and other important scientific knowledge. I always just went along with it until I started reading about it for myself That moment I realized that my entire life was different and I felt like my life was a complete lie up till that point. I can even still remember thinking about dinosaurs and humans existing together when I was still 12 years old and telling all of my classmates about it.

Otto_T_Gilligan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That rage is a valid communication tool.

Supertech46 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to cook pork. It doesn't have to be dry and grey anymore in order to be safe to eat.

bartefaen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you have to constantly work toward being better and realizing your full, unique potential. Fuck no! Itยดs perfectly okay to settle for boring mediocracy, and to be happy about it!

IamIrene ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That love is dependant on whether or not you are liked at any given time.

sparksandstarks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to write right handed - I was left handed until about 5 but my parents forced me to use right as being left would make my life and others hard

hexiron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That lemons came from limes. I have a degree in Neuroscience and run a lab at an Ivy league... I don't want to talk about it.

_dontBeADouche ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Blatant racism.

nudemonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Indirectly learned what I call flash frustration anger.

OhSheGlows ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Many things, but the most damaging has been what they taught me (or rather, failed to teach me) with regards to boundaries.

ginpanda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've had to learn people don't hate me as much as I hate me

redopinion209 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My father and his mother taught me from a very young age to fear black people. They will steal your purse! Sell stuff from your yard to buy beer and drugs! Rape white women!

I am happy to report that I am no longer afraid. =D

Kiaser21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That education is the way to succeed in financial life. It's not, learning proper financial handling and principles is how you do it.

Amata_Audron1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to lie. My sister and I learned from the best. Not just little white lies either. Our fish was always the biggest and baddest of them all. It was not until I started dateing my current SO that I even knew about it. He just looked at me one day and said "Why do you alway lie so much. Just tell the truth." We proceeded to fight about it and he called me on every bullshit. It hit me like a ton of bricks. I had no idea I had been doing this my whole life. I am better now but it is a constant struggle to let someone else have a bigger tuna than me. Haha

cinaak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:51:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It turns out highwater pants aren't needed every day. Only most

yajyuu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom is Vietnamese and doesnt speak english well. There's a restaurant here with the word mandarin in it. She pronounces it "mary anne" and I pronounce it like that until senior year.... I even had Chinese friends they didnt correct me.

StanlyManly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can't think of anything specific but I repeated lots of dumb shit my parents told me to humour me to my teachers and friends and made myself look dumb.

Oburcuk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to get out of the habit of Criticizing others/making negative comments about other people's appearance or style choices. I realized that it was my mom's defense mechanism because of her own insecurities about herself (she always felt she was unattractive). The way she talked about others made me really self conscious and afraid of expressing myself because I thought other people were judging me like that all the time but I don't think most people really give a shit. Now my attitude is kind of, live and let live and I will try to pass that on to my kids if I ever have some.

Sakayumi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Can you open the covered?" "The what?" "The covered." "...the cupboard?"

I learned to say pb as v and p as f in some cases. Didn't find out it was wrong until I was in my teens. Mom said it was too cute to correct. Still relearning Cupboard, curb, and episode :/

kodee2003 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom saying pilla, instead of pillow. I started getting made fun of, & changed how I said it.

Rob_Zander ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom always sets clocks in the house 10, 15 or 20 minutes fast. I am to this day incapable of trusting any clocks that aren't connected the internet.

alldamermaidZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm not allowed to be sad or mad or upset about things. I would be upset about something and I would actually get in trouble for being upset. 'You need to get that frown off of your face right now, young lady. You will not go in public looking like that so I better see a smile in the next thirty seconds or I'll take away (insert whatever 'privilege' here).' Just so they wouldn't look bad in public with a less than perfect child.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to learn that it's not acceptable to refuse to talk about things with your SO. I used to put up so many walls with my husband and now I can see that's because of how my mom shut down communication with us. Also I had to learn that it's 100% better to make decisions based on facts rather than emotions. My birth family still makes all of their decisions emotionally to this day and then act like victims when it turns out badly.

lebatondecolle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To hate other races

beaverburgular ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Check out /r/raisedbynarcissists for similar content.

sami_theembalmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My boyfriend needs to unlearn his mom and dad's "soaking after using=washing" strategy. They just soak the pans and leave them there forEVER.

poshbanana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you are supposed to make eye contact when someone talks to you.

As a child, I wasn't allowed to look at my father's face when he talked to me and wasn't allowed to talk or make a sound other than 'yes or no' when he demanded an answer. I always had to keep my head down and stay silent while my father talked. So I grew up thinking you weren't supposed to look at adults in the eyes when they talked to you. It was in middle school I found out that not all fathers are like that and took me longer to understand why my teachers were mad at me for looking away from them while they talked to me, or why they got mad when I didn't say anthying back to them and stayed silent.

summersofftoride ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That Indian food is disgusting. My dad traveled all over the world and always hated the smell of curry. Didn't try it until my mid 20s. I love Indian food now

Atlas_Alpine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The more credential you are, the more you will be paid.

I guess they never heard the term "over qualified".

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

green means go, red means stop, yellow means drive like hell. thanks dad.

p0ltergeists ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That minority races are evil and deserve little to no respect. Stupid fucking racist hicks. I was highkey racist until I got about halfway through high school, but I never understood why, just that it was what my family taught me so I went with it.

g-dragon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I always feel bad for spending too much money on paper products. it doesn't stop me but the guilt is real.

ChanceNash23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:57:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You'll go to hell when you die if you don't live as a 'good Christian' child of God, washed in the blood and the guts of the lamb.

People, please teach your children how to think and understand life for themselves.

QuantumInteger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:57:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you shouldn't stare into a microwave because the radiation would cook your eyes or stand near while it's running.

It wasn't till I was an adult did I realize how dumb that was. If the radiation could cook your eyes just by looking, why would there be a clear shield? Also, if it were that radioactive, it wouldn't stop being dangerously radioactive when it's off.

Kamenosuke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:57:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Over eating

oopsiepoopsie123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:57:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That all men are sex-crazed pigs and that all women are conniving bitches who cannot be trusted. That men only care about sex, and to be honest about things that upset you in a relationship will just make them leave you for someone else. Oh, and this ones a gem I continuously hear from both my mother and grandmother...

"If he doesn't drink, and he doesn't hit you, all is well."

JoshuaTheBastard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:57:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion. I grew up to realize what bigotry and destruction it causes the world; that along with fucked up ancient texts like the bible should by no means serve as the basis for morality.

Trump_InDa_Norf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:57:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I could be anything I wanted when I grow up. I just wanted to be a shower towel for the cowgirl cheerleaders. I tried to apply for it, even grew my beard out as to be more absorbent. Now I have a few restraining orders and am no longer allowed in cowboy stadium. Thanks mom. Dreams die hard in the real world.

intheintricacies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:57:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Spartaness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:57:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Right and left the wrong way around. Thanks Dad.

Th4tGamerChick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:58:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom was way over protective of me growing up and basically told me if I ever went anywhere by myself or went to a friends house who had a male family member I would get raped/killed. Developed crippling agoraphobia because of it. Finally got diagnosed when I was 18 and started the recovery process. I still battle with it everyday, but I'm a hell of a lot better now than I was 6 years ago. I can at least do basic life things now like work and go grocery shopping without having a serious panic attack. To this day she still thinks she had no effect on this.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:58:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sharing

RedHotSausage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:58:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was growing up my mom pronounced the word toilet like "TOOR-let", so until I was 14 I pronounced toilet wrong and still say it wrong sometimes

courtneyjaff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:58:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be over-pilot. I was lead to assume people will ask you what you want.

qolace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Emotionally abusing me when I lied as a child all the way into teenagehood (so the abuse obviously got worse). Might as well hide the truth all the time in order to protect myself. Oh look my first love as an adult! Aaaaand I'm single.

alybee64 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We always showered at least twice a day in my house no matter what. And we live in southern California, land of the constant drought. Moving away I realized its ok to only shower once a day, and that its actually bad to wash your hair every day.

whocares124 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Still learning it...

Not feeling inferior around other people.

Not always reacting in anger every time something doesn't go right.

Not feeling like a failure if I try something and it isn't perfect.

pinksparklypouch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That after you've made a mistake you should expect to get hit or yelled at. When I moved in with my grandmother she asked me to help her cook and as I was getting ingredients out I dropped a container of tomato sauce. She came around the kitchen corner and my heart was beating immensely fast . I closed my eyes expecting to get BEAT. She looked down and said "oh well, there's nothing we can do about it now". I was in utter and complete shock. I stood there as she mopped up the sauce and felt tears gather in my eyes. I quickly collected myself and helped her clean. To this day I can still remember how scared I always was to make mistakes because of the way my step-dad decided to discipline me, I am so grateful that I never have to feel like that again.

iluvCrabs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom never meant to teach me this, but I've recently been trying to unlearn how I treat people I love when I'm angry. When my mom was mad at me, she would refuse to talk to me, tuck me in at night, hug me, etc. Really just wouldn't show any form of love. I always said I wasn't going to be that person, but I realized a few months ago that I would do that with my now ex boyfriend, like I wouldn't talk to him or kiss him. Once I realized I was doing that though, I'd always kiss him back or tell him I loved him when he'd say it to me, even if I really didn't want to do that stuff at the time. It would actually help soften my heart, and we'd have much more meaningful discussion about the issue. It's okay to be angry at people, but withholding love to punish someone is cruel. That's not what love is for.

SonatiAkb48 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The words "I love you" should not sound like a threat or come with conditions

Bulkyone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Carbs are energy food! eat lots of carbs and always have energy! You're not leaving the table until your plate is empty!

20 years of childhood then adulthood obesity later.....

TheGlitterBand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

everything

FTbatscientists ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"All women are whore." - Father

"If you aren't married by the time you are 30, you are used up and no one will want you." - Father

How to be a fair-weather friend. - My mom

Having an eating disorder and being thin is more important than eating a little too much and being average. - Mom

Redditmucational ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fear money, your family are manipulative selfish shits and you're fucking stupid and useless. Forget about ever meeting your father because I won't tell you who he is.

It's all the opposite now. I am learning to deal with money, my family help me as much as they can, I am working on a physics BS and help around my home, I met my dad at 26 and have an awesome half brother.

She's almost homeless and in a loveless relationship. She is also suicidal and takes schizophrenia meds. I'm just trying to cope with my depression and general anxiety on my own, with my SO and wonderful kitty.

TanksAllFoes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My wife had to learn that it is okay not to finish her plate, even though she is full. That one took awhile for her to mainly break the habit, thereveill be tines that she will still and try and finish the playe out of reflex.

AH_Khajiit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the only way to let anger out is violence. I'm still learning it, it's hard to realize you have anger issues just like your parents but I will refuse to scare my kids with it like they scared me.

kahzel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pinochet did nothing wrong and saved our country.

But what can you expect when my mother spent half of her life sheltered by the world of the police during the dictatorship, and my father is a heavy rightwing man who actually believes that

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:03:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That there are more food varieties outside of American and Tex-Mex. I never had Asian food until a Panda Express opened in town (which isn't even good Asian food, if you can even call it Asian) because my mom just hates anything that isn't American or Tex-Mex. She also hates Indian food, and there are no Indian places where I grew up so I didn't get to try that until I went away to college.

Amata_Audron1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:03:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had a similar problem to this. I was blamed for a lot of stuff growing up and I was always in trouble. I was sorry for pretty much everything. The way I walked, how I ate, breathing oddly, anything my little sister did,the list really doesnt end. It was a pain. I just learned to say sorry and pout hopeing I could bypass the ass whooping that was sure to come. Rarely worked but it was worth a shot.

Amata_Audron1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:05:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This was suppose to post as a reply to someone else's comment. ...sorry.

ls_2012 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:03:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Drinking water before eating will make you not hungry anymore.

Frankie_The_Silent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:03:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

White lies. Sad but true. All to save someone's feelings and to avoid the bigger problem. I soon realized that's all a bullshit and cowardly way of living. I live myself through self belief and utmost honesty regardless of feelings.

veitamin_B ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:03:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That blood is blue inside your body until it touches the air.

sdreal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion. Once I started the process, it took a decade to finally admit to myself and the world I was absolutely, in every sense of the word, no longer a believer. The scars remain forever though, mostly in the form of random, misplaced, guilt.

meghonsolozar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom had me when she was kind of old and her memory was never good, so I always have to help her remember stuff like half way through a sentence or a story. Other people apparently hate it when you start finishing their sentences all the time. It's a hard- lifelong habit to break.

xrainxofxbloodx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents are republican. I'm... not. I eventually started picking up on things and realized their politics are not the best fit...

I'm still confused about a lot of things. Mostly global warming. My dad believes (or at least used to believe) that global warming isn't real. I honestly don't know who to believe anymore.

Mostly I'm just grateful they aren't super conservative Christians. I'd be out on the streets by now...

gtmustang ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:05:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That gay marriage was wrong. I went to a private school and slowly I began to realize my views on the idea of gay marriage was out dated and just wrong. I went through elementary and middle school making myself look like an ass when it came to that topic.

dadthecat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:05:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Anxiety.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:06:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everything.

Mr_Face ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:06:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly, nothing. My mom taught me real life skills I use all the time.

TheGman335 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:06:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom (single parent) told me that to get girls you had to be super nice to them and give them gifts. Just be a really nice guy basically.

Fucking awful advice obviously and it took me a while to unlearn this.

Wish I had a father figure growing up but oh well.

SoldierOf4Chan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:07:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Toasting marshmallows for s'mores. My mom would always just set those fuckers on fire and wait for them to burn out. It wasn't until I was in college that someone acted like I was a monster for what I was doing.

Melsother ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:07:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism. So glad I woke up.

4609203 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:07:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was taught to have all kinds of manners. Thankfully my dad took the fall for me and unlearned them so that I wouldn't have to.

Mach3800 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:07:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom taught me "pancakes" are called "panycakes." Got in an argument in middle school about the proper name, then got made fun of. Thanks mom.

DrSkyentist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:07:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the best reaction to any high stress situation is to yell about it, assign/deflect blame and have a full force anxiety attack.

I'm the "Take Charge" guy during a panic in my family now.

JoshuaTheBastard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:07:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Also that your kids understand more than they think. They are very impressionable, especially towards their parents and those they look up to. Never belittle or fight with your SO or anyone else in front of your kids, because they don't forget that kind of stuff. It grows up with them and turn into resentment and negetivity.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:08:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Anxiety. Still unlearning it and need meds to do so.

heckyeahiwashere44 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:08:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Memorizing word for word when studying. If one doesn't understand enough of the material to explain it in own words. Then the material isnt learned.

vlasvilneous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:08:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"unthaw"

animenite97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:08:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you should demonize others and that anyone not like yourself are bad.

DarthElephant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:08:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That just because someone is older does not mean they are wiser. Respect is earned, not expected. Retail taught me that when the old gay crackhead who looks like Prince would come into my store and grab a Prince album and say it's him. Then he asked which camcorder is best for filming himself.

K1LL3RP3NNY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm a 20 yr old male, who still lives at home. I never got the opportunity to go away for school because I was 17 when I graduated high school, and my mother wasnt keen on me being on my own. My mother is also the kind of woman to point out my acne, to ask if I washed my face with a medicated soap and if I've brushed my teeth. She will then comment on the colour of my teeth, along with whatever I'm wearing. i.e. "You cant be seen in public with that, you look disheveled and gross." I have a lot of shirts that I like wearing that are just something awesome like a cat with sunglasses and headphones, or an eeveelutions shirt. I can't wear them around her. And when I simply say "I dont know why you always speak up, mind your business, your life will be so much better for it." She loses her damn mind. Its incredibly disheartening, she's gas-lit me into never wanting to drive because I dont believe I can, even with lessons. Makes me believe I will die if I leave her home/care. etc etc, its.. difficult to live with. I wanted to unlearn all these things, as well as immediately assuming the worst about people, because she's always critiquing them too, and its just.. my god its crazy.

Coop3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to teach myself not to worry so much. My mom is the biggest worrier I've ever met. When I was in grade school she'd have me call when I got to a friends house who lived one street over, and if I didn't shed call in a panic. When I first started driving I'd have to text her when I got to where I was, and when I was leaving. If even the slightest chance of anything could go wrong, she'd worry. She'd worry about everything in the world, things she couldn't change, things that were out of her control, things out of anyone's control.

I had to teach myself to not worry, and live in the fear of things not going to plan. Worrying doesn't change anything. It doesn't help a situation not in my control.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

An eating disorder. Still trying with that one.

theloosestofcannons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

catholic guilt

LazyTriceratops ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:10:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom had me and siblings convinced that the crust was the healthiest part of sliced bread. I would happily eat sandwiches with crust, while looking down in righteous indignation at my lazy friends and their uncrusted sandwiches of weakness. Last year I realized that there is no difference, health wise, regarding the crust. I'm 29.

I revealed this observation to my family last Christmas, where my mom burst out laughing at the success of her twisted plan to have us not waste food. My youngest sister was still living the lie.

GalileoGalilei2012 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:10:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My religion is the only "right" one, and that human civilization on planet Earth is the center piece of the entire cosmos.

Leecannon_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:10:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Most of my political beliefs as a chidl

TaurineLine719 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:11:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We really need to stop doing these repressed memory threads lol

murrrrdock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:11:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Nutella is not diet food.

Our mom told us that it was so we wouldn't eat it.

Iamthewurstest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:11:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That getting loans and using credit is a smart and effective way of managing finances.

Working on making sure that my kids never learn that.

pinkdreamery ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They meant well but getting retrained out of being left-handed when I was 9...

I did find out a lot of my friends had the same experience though lol

misyo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I won't be yelled at or beaten for breaking a dish. The first time I broke a plate in my boyfriend's (now husband) house, I immediately began to apologize profusely and flinch away from him. He was really confused and told me it was fine. I waited all night for him to yell at me or hit me over it. I freaked him out. I still haven't 100% unlearned this but I'm much better if I break things now.

losnardos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"If you can't afford the cheap one, might as well buy the expensive one"

Andrewdoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Calling paper towel Scott towel

JarOfLilPickles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Had to unlearn * Gays don't exist * Drugs are bad * Old people deserve respect

diglettman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

how to use Reddit

phillyweis88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

XD

GameKyuubi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I was a special snowflake and that looks don't matter.

KnightsWhoNi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

not my parents, but my grandpa(who died a few years ago) was extremely racist and homophobic. I distinctly remember him telling my sister when she first got pregnant(I was ~10 at the time, she was 20) "Good we need another white boy to keep up with the (hard N words) that keep reproducing like rabbits." Luckily my dad and mom aren't like that at all, so it was a fairly quick lesson.

IAmFatAndHaveNoTeeth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism.

WatchHim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Taco shells are meant to be cooked before being served. I suffered a lifetime of eating uncooked taco shells. Never again.

mearry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't necessarily know if this counts as teaching but it's along the same lines...

My family and I used to go to church every week, but eventually it made my life worse. I started fearing God, and heaven, and hell. It didn't help that I was the only gay kid that I knew. Reflecting on who I was made me fear for my "soul", and I was deathly afraid of going to hell.

Getting older I started to question my religion a bit more and I came to my own conclusions that it was all bullshit, I didn't really believe myself at first and still felt worried that I was going to hell (I don't get it either?), but this helped me to start getting over Catholicism.

Now I am fully atheist, gay, and much happier now that I have gotten over my indoctrination, I guess that's how I would put it.

Ejunco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to get rid of the thinking that getting a career should be done ASAP. She grew up from the old country but she can't help herself with her thinking she doesn't realize life is a journey and you can't rush things. If I end up with children I'll do better than her.

tastytreat64 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:15:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That weed is bad for you, in totality.

BigGeorge6953 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:15:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother is a crazy person so...in essence it's to numerous to count.

Probably_Joking ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:16:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I got from my mum the habit of always arguing against and getting into conflict with people in positions of authority. She would act in a stand-offish manner to managers/bosses, I would be a smartass to my teachers and call them out on anything that I saw as bullshit. I was always striving for what I guess I thought were moral victories. Essentially I was quick to act on immediate emotional responses. I guess I credit my brother with pointing out and teaching me that a better approach might be looking at a situation and thinking about what arguing and causing a fuss would actually do- think about the outcomes. Sure, you gotta call bullshit out when you see it but if you do it consistently over everything, and approach it in the wrong manner, it will be to your detriment. Approach it differently, don't approach conflicts by rising to anger and emotions. Be respectful, talk calmly and rationally- even if it's difficult- you will find that the outcomes of your arguments and fights will almost always improve you'll find life generally a lot more stress free.

Grumpkin_eater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:16:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism.

shant_math ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:17:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Neuroticism

A long-term tendency to be in a negative emotional state. People withneuroticismย tend to have more depressed moods - they suffer from feelings of guilt, envy, anger and anxiety, more frequently and more severely than other individuals.

Funny, until today I hadn't actually looked up the definition. I just knew from context our whole family is crazy neurotic...

dearjack91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:17:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That anything less than absolute perfection is failure.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That i had to work a 9-5 to support myself. Biggest misconception of this time!!!

arkhamcreedsolid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:03:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pl...please...teach me?

JeskaLouise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The title to this should really just be "what shitty things did your mom do as a parent that you had to unlearn and relearn the correct way"

Namuz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That one horse can talk

darinfjc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That sex is enjoyed equally by both men and women and that each crave it and seek it out. That men's sex drive isn't something women cave in to just to maintain a relationship.

kperkins1982 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't realize it until about 24, but my mom was TERRIBLE about finances, and everything she had told me, or examples given were terrible.

giraffacamelopardal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:23:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom didn't know how to use toilet seat covers properly. She'd always rip off the middle part completely instead of letting it fall into the center so the whole thing would be flushed down with the water. It took me years to figure it out myself. YEARS

Watercakechannel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:23:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

When preparing tea, to use 2-3 times each tea-bag, so they don't go to waste.

Now I'm rich enough to afford one per cup. Sometimes two if I'm feeling fancy.

glerk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Respect your elders"

Analyidiot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to use credit cards. When I was 18 and got my first card on my own, I had already been told a billion times by mom that it's OK to carry a big balance on your card. In fact it's better! Also just make the minimum payments, that's fine too. Lo and behold 5 and a half years later I'm 6000 dollars in credit card debt, and it seems insurmountable. Getting by though, making far more than my monthly minimums thanks to help just by lurking in /r/personalfinance. Should be entirely debt free in 16 months.

Dat_Marine_Boi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You my favorite kinna ppl mane. โญ๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ

orithevasquezer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the devil would pick me up from my belt whilst sleeping, took me a good while to unlearn that one.

InsertSmartassRemark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not to accept candy from strangers. Turns out all of my greatest adventures started out that way.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:06:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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InsertSmartassRemark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:22:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, I grew up in the ghetto, so maybe pawn shop explorer. Or payday loan explorer.

misslilychan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i could be who i want and the world would be okay with it.

Giradox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:25:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That drunk people are dangerous.

abruce123412 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:08:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Drunk people are fun, they act so silly

TarikZebib ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:25:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The other side (in politics) is always led by people who are either ignorant or bribed to have their "obviously wrong" opinions

Lady_Generic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:26:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I can go out to eat somewhere that's not fast food or a buffet. I don't have to buy the cheapest thing on the menu nor do u have to eat 3 plates of food to make the buffet worth it. I also don't have to finish my meal if I don't want to. I never really went to restaurants until I met my husband in college. I had never had white cheese dip before I met him. It was a life changing moment for me.

Phlink75 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:26:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not everyone I love and care about will die.

pleonasticmonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:26:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not exactly something my parents taught me,but.... until I was about 12 or 13 years old, because of the Star Spangled Banner lyrics, I thought a Donserly was a kind of lamp.

bedwetter95 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:27:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That navy blue was a "smart color" in comparison to black.

Rec_desk_phone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:27:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to unlearn hating green beans. My mother is a wonderful cook and absolutely knocks it out of the park with southern cooking but this also includes overcooked green beans with boiled bacon or some heresy. Anyway, it's gross to me and makes me gag when I try to eat it. However, I love steamed green beans with a little butter and salt.

fuck_this_sucks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:27:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty much everything.

MinisterforFun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:27:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you cannot ask the bus driver for a free ride if your card had insufficient funds

Sheriffsnow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:28:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was learning to drive my mother taught me, when you take a left at an intersection go into the slow lane first then merge into the fast lane if you need to. She was obviously wrong and me teacher lectured me about it.

Canarou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:29:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't know that peanut butter didn't go into the fridge until I met my now husband. So many years of trying to spread cold peanut butter on toast. Now I always have the urge to keep it in there and have to remind myself it doesn't have to to be cold.

mo_macks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:31:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Just lose 15 pounds, and you'll be so cute!" And "always have fat friends...it will make you feel better about yourself." Bless her heart, she believes those things. I'll not fault her for it. But her truth is not always mine. Not in friends, not in size, not in make up. ;-)

abruce123412 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:05:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How much do you weigh then?

mo_macks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:11 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was about 5'4".....and 140? A fluffy 140- I didn't do sports. Looking back at pictures, there was a school year where my face looked ALARMING, like I'd been stung my bees. But I wish my willow-Y 110# mother had more useful advice than "grow taller". Haha

Tsobaphomet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:32:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That if I didn't change my underwear every day, my penis would fall off

abruce123412 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dicks out off

evenios ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:32:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

porn is bad

Pale_Horse1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:32:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Was always taught to be a respectful, nice little boy. Doesn't I sound too bad on the outset, but it got to the point where I felt like I couldn't stand up for myself when they thought I did something I hadn't done, or when I wanted to correct someone on a simple error... Now that I only see them occasionally, I've found myself becoming a lot more assertive.

ryoma_ashitani ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:32:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't talk to strangers.

rinkidinkidoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:32:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents taught me to fear people that are different, they taught me that we should believe anything that any republican says about a democrat and we always vote for the republicans. My parents taught me that God was a horrible hateful thing that should be feared in order to be saved. My parents taught me to hate myself. I am still unlearning all of it, everyday.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:33:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She didn't directly teach me this, but I learned it from her anyway.

I was learning how to drive, and my first instinct was to imitate the way my mom drove. She doesn't break any major rules, she just brakes and accelerates really abruptly... and goes 60 in 45 mph zones (which is horrible to a student driver like me).

The first time I drove, I tried to drive like her. I drove 30 and tried to do a sharp turn without slowing down much (like my mom would) and my sister yelled at me for driving like a maniac.

The next day, I was given another chance to drive. I pushed away the urge to imitate her and to just follow the rules. I drove slowly (second time behind the wheel, so 35 mph felt fast), but I braked and accelerated very smoothly. From then on, I drove pretty safely.

If I get too comfortable with driving, I instinctively start driving like my mum. Gotta push away that urge every time I'm behind the wheel.

Observational learning is powerful!

BlindFox98 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:33:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I HAVE to finish my plate

DillDeer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:33:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not everything is bad.

commasandtoast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:33:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That all the nutrients in bread are in the crust. Imagine my surprise when I was in my 20s and told my coworker that. It wasn't until he asked how that was possible that I stopped to think about it.

UndoMePlease ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:33:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You don't have to tell someone you love them because it is (somehow) implied.

grumpy-mom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:33:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's ok to throw more than 3 things in the dryer at once. My Mom still hangs almost everything except underwear/socks. Even then she will only throw a handful of things in at a time.
She's convinced she's gonna overheat it or something. Drives me crazy. Especially when they bought a new one, it was extra large capacity.

TheMrEM4N ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:34:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That gay people were evil.

afroturf1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:34:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity. Don't get me wrong. I don't hate religion. I actually think it's a beautiful thing when approached properly, it's just not for me.

Dribbles_25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:35:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To use wall plugs in wood!

ExitiuMax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:35:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

obnoxious burps and not caring about clothing/looking put together in public

dogonbanana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:35:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

According to my mom when I was 12, you shouldn't see or talk to your friends on everyday except Tuesday because her grandparents told her that your friends will never be nice to you unless you talk to them on Tuesdays and the reason why? Because "the demons don't like Tuesday's."

Yeah, my great-grandparents were assholes.

Baikeru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:35:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Apparently racism. I grew up with my dad using certain words to describe certain groups of people. I didn't know these words were wrong until this one day in high school. Our teacher was asking us what people from different regions are called. When she got to China, I rose my hand and said, "Chinks".

Oriental. She was looking for oriental. I got detention.

Invoker11 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:35:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have a friend who is been brain washed by his mother to treat women like goddesses/gods... Luckily he has my sister.. she is far from the worst toxic girl he could get... and if things become really out of hand I could step in before he gets really screwed pun not intended

thehotpoint ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:35:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nope, not joking. Mom tries to commit suicide a lot. Teaching myself not to be like her and give up was something I had to do.

lexiyoder1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:36:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Santa Claus isn't real

wont_tell_i_refuse_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:36:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the Jews are our friends

abruce123412 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Why wont you be my friend? :(

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:36:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That sex is basically evil

mattjp03 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:36:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That God exists.

fudgesicle2014 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:37:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Only EVERYTHING.

enjoyyourshrimp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:37:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Self loathing :(

goofball_jones ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:37:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Taught me to be a racist and bigot.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:37:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Trust no one but yourself. Forever alone.

WHATISUSERNAME ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:37:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Working hard = wealth and success

kCloudd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:37:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Always speak the truth.. Learn the hard way that it's never true..

Pyramid9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everything

JeskaLouise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents where also bad with unintentionally teaching us how to be passive and not teaching us stand up for ourselves i would always let people walk all over me and it wasn't until I met my husband and we where dating and I had a super manipulative lying roommate that he like taught and forced me to face the situation and be vocal and defend myself but now I'm like super aggressive haha went from one to the other

attractivetoast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A tv remote is not in fact called a channel changer. Someone is a newspaper reporter, not a newspaper recorder. Thanks for both of those, dad.

thehotpoint ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

She fails at something in life, gets depressed, tries suicide and fails at that...gets more depressed...cycle continues. I stopped talking to her.

USmellFunny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be nice and go the extra mile for everyone.

Wrest216 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

actually, my parents taught the crap out of me. They are some of the best parents i know of, esp when i hear about other horror stories. I feel so grateful that they spent time with me and even though my mom just passed away she was right about just SO many things. sigh.

thunder_by_blunder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being nice to everyone.

Szyx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism.

They weren't fully racist, but there were tendencies, or just off the cusp things they'd say. Ice tried to rid myself of the notion for a long while now.

moodychurchill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother was convinced that skinny (skeletal) with blonde hair and blues eyes was the only beautiful beings on earth. I am curvy with dark brown hair and green eyes. I spent years bleaching my hair and starving myself to fit that image, it took well into my twenties to realise I am beautiful without her say so.

Rshifty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not talking about something meant that the problem would go away on its own.

Mostly in terms of my mental health/self-harming. If I didn't talk about it, I was fine.

I wasn't.

handlit33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

[Redacted self realization]

Redhavok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:40:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fucking everything.

antici________potato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:40:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That i didnt have a sister. Found out 2 weeks ago that i have a half sister from an affair 19 years ago.

Nathan_Arizona_Jr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:41:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents were Jebovah's Witnesses, so everything!!

ZeroBcool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:41:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Teeth were ivory. Of course they aren't, but I argued with a teacher once and got in trouble. I was 15 and dint know any better.

j_nandez9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:41:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mispronunciation/nicknames of mundane items or everyday words that have labels and/or definitions but we never seem to look at them in real life. I can honestly say this went on through varying stages of my life and I always learned how to pronounce names, words, and what items were really called after I was corrected by someone else and then naturally embarrassed by the correction. Some examples: lotion was "low-Lee" until I was roughly 6, Hair ties were "hair-brokes" until about 8, brought was "brang" until public embarrassment around 17, facade was "faah-kade" till somewhere around 22... To this day, my parents still use those words. There is always some small fear in the back of my mind that I have not figured them all out yet.

irishmom58 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:41:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that I am not worthy of love

adiemus123456 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:41:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I am a horrible human being, who has never done anything right in my entire life, and should have never been born. Still working on unlearning it.

f1sh_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:41:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom, for some reason, told me to never use my breaks on the freeway. I don't know what lesson she was trying to teach me but when traffic would come to screeching halt I ended up on the shoulder a few times before I had my license.

snave_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:41:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother's irrational ... not fear but blind hatred of dogs.

ADPNova ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:42:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

drugs r bad mkay

mr_jerkjerkins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:42:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus

Jacob_Nuly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:42:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's okay to be gay (I'm not, but in general).

And the whopper that I still can't get over: cheesecake is terrible. When I was a kid my dad had a rare illness that essentially meant he couldn't eat anything with flavor. We had tofu every night and I hated it. One night my mom attempted to make a cheesecake out of tofu, and it was the first thing I had ever eaten that was called cheesecake. I've tried actual cheesecake since then and I couldn't make myself like it because of that incident.

veranus_eviscerator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:42:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I was special in any way, shape, or form.

mrtrojanap7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:43:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To spend all my monies. Still unlearning.

tomanonimos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:43:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cooking meat until its cooked on the stove. Friend taught me the concept of how it continues cooking off the stove. No more nasty well done meat.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:44:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom calls cicadas "locusts."

amechengine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:44:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism.

dianasauruswrecks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:44:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The white bits attached to the egg yolk aren't belly buttons. I've understood how eggs and baby chicks develop since elementary school. That knowledge has a hard time holding up to the idea of belly buttons in my breakfast. I still pick them out before I whisk my scrambled eggs. I'm 35.

rebelterp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:44:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be poor

whycomment ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:44:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everything happens for a reason - meaning there is some positive value in the long run. Nope. Sometimes completely random shit just happens and nothing good comes of it. Once I learned to accept that, and stopped looking for a reason, my life improved significantly.

Parallax92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:44:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What a marriage should look like.

fokjoudoos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:44:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Drinking every day is alcoholism and not "normal". People still look at me funny or mock me when I pass on a drink.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:44:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

yayathedog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:44:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

-That my S.O. Should pay for everything. If I ever pay for anything, I'm an idiot.

-Sexism in general. Men should work for everything and I should just give them sex. ("But I'm a lesbian?" "She better buy you anything you want but I hope you find a nice husband")

-that taking pills without water is the first step to becoming a drug addict

-the smoke in the sky is left by sky writers (had a huge fucking argument with someone and she admitted to telling me that because that's what she was told and it was some stupid revenge)

-to spend my money before its gone. She's shit at managing her money.

-Insulting myself is always a great joke (I still lie about things I can do and call myself slow just to crack a joke to some stranger)

-bragging and acting like I'm better than my friends

-lying to the doctor for pain pills she doesn't need is perfectly fine

-Christianity

-Intolerance

-terrible eating habits

-insulting my one black sheep of a cousin (the whole family taught me that one and I can't quite unlearn it)

-I should be seen (or not seen depending on what I look like) and not heard unless she needs me to cut in and make a joke at my expense of course

-Nothing is done right unless she does it (and now I don't do a damn thing for fear of doing it wrong. Whats the point when she's going to do it for me anyway?)

-My GPA is my life

-I'm the cruel one in this relationship and I have no reason not to trust her with the important things in my life

-it's my fault we aren't the best of friends

-I'm her property

-I'm selfish

ELite_Predator28 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:45:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've come to realize that the whole 'talking back to your parents makes you a shitty person' thing is total shit. It's just to control people.

I am:

  • Almost 18, oldest of all my siblings, 1st to call to do random shit.

  • Senior in High School working hard to pull up my grades from last year so I can go somewhere nice for college (hopefully)

  • I work 4 days a week

  • Involved with the school band for 7-8 years

  • Doesn't have his licence yet (but my sister does for some reason)

  • Built my very own PC last summer, bought all components with MY OWN MONEY (Parents still think it's theirs)

My mom just randomly decided to make a rule yesterday turn off the internet from now on at 9PM reguardless of what I'm doing atm, homework, video games, talking to my best friend, who I dont see often, of 13 years through the internet, making youtube videos, etc. Got yelled at for trying to reason with her as an adult, mano y mano.

I get that they want to me to succeed and have a nice life, but in this day and age I need the internet for EVERYTHING like the 3 online classes I am taking atm. All the work was due tonight at 12 and I never finished it cause you decided to drag us to the beach for 5 hours today for no reason.

I do play alot of video games, which they don't like but I only play when I really don't have much else to do. I have tried other activities before, baseball, basketball, bowling, tennis... was shit at all of it, compleye waste of time. Hell, I rolled with the United States Navel Sea Cadets until my old CO and XO retired around freshman year (new staff was shit)'. That was pretty fun for a while.

Around the end of sophmore year, I kept getting this sense of dread, fear, seething hatred for something that I couldn't place and these thoughts of failure. It kept getting progressivly worse and worse throughout the year, and kind of persisted through summer a little bit. It worsened little by little in junior year, until 3rd quarter where I had enough.

I was fairly certain something was wrong with me emotionally or mentally but I was scared to go to threapy and get help. I'm scared they might blame 'the games' or 'not sticking with a sport or club' or 'my grades' or whatever the fuck direction the wind was blowing that day.

I cut class. Bad idea in the long run but I think it was worth it. I was on the verge of a mental breakdown. I needed a fucking break from school, home and spend time with myself. I often asked myself: Who the fuck was I? Why do I feel like my stomach is being ripped apart little by little? Why is everyone else finding success but me? I guess I did it because I wanted to show my parents (and maybe myself) I was bigger... have the power to control my own life and no one else could.

Kind of destroyed my GPA, but for my sake, was worth.

I spent a day out of every week at a Barnes and Noble reading books about depression and anxiety. I learned alot about myself. I realized that away from home I felt like a normal human being again; I wasn't stressed. I love my parents and my family, but I need to GTFO ASAP and get help when I turn 18 ASAP, incase i feel this way again later on in my life with college, a GF, wife or kid(s). Otherwise bad shit is gunna happen.

So yeah, a bit ranty, but that's my two cents.

berzerkowitz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:45:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

Apod1991 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:45:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was really little, to teach order and disiplince with my brothers and I, my parents ad grandparents said to us whenever we saw a police officer, they'd point to them and say

"If you're bad this man will take you away and will never let you come home

It took lots of teachers and school visits from police/fire/paramedics to unhinge that thinking, and it was shockingly common how frequent it is

Paramedics = here to help Fire fighter = here to help Police officer = a mysterious person with a black uniform and guns who will take you away if you're bad in any situation.

even today it bugs me when parents do that with their kids. It's one of the times I speak up and I'll be blunt, you're teaching your kids to be fearful and to not trust them.

I had parents even protest cops coming to our schools to teach us about how bullying is bad and how police officers are here to help. And that if you're scared or need, we as police are here to help...nope so many don't trust them in any sense

goobiest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:45:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mom: That I would look great if I could just lose those 10 lbs. Dad: That I could afford anything I want if I wanted it hard enough and had enough credit cards.

DarNak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:45:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother taught me to say "S" sounds with my tongue sticking out. It worked mostly when I was a kid because I had a large gap between my two front teeth which made it possible to sound out "S". I don't really know if it sounded like an actual lisp but when I asked my friends about it they said they didn't really notice.

When I got my teeth fixed by getting braces the gap closed and I was suddenly unable to sound it out and I had to endure about a month of embarrassing situations before I finally learned to speak the sound properly. I thought I unconsciously learned it because of the gap but I was surprised when my little brother told me it was the same with him.

iamVoxelChild ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That getting a 40hr/week job, working at it until you're 60, having kids, living in suburbs, etc, was the only thing I could do successfully in life and if I didn't I would "end up working at McDonalds and probably be on drugs".

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Smoking. My mother taught me at 14, so she would have a smoking buddy. I quit at 20.

gxnelson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So late to the party but I just want to share.

I had to unlearn perfection. I used to always think I had to be the best that I couldn't even fail a little bit. If I failed I was worthless and undeserving of my family (I was adopted). However after some "life experiences" I've learned the times I've failed have taught me the most and made me stronger. I am better for my failures.

khegiobridge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Work is life; life is work. I started working when I was 13, washing dishes in the folk's diner; when I was 22, I managed the kitchen in the uncle's restaurant that made several million a year. I worked 70-80 hours a week; went 4 years without a vacation. I made damn good money but had no life. Then I walked away and moved to Hawai'i and started working 30-40 hours a week. There was a whole world out there; started traveling and in ten years lived in four countries. I'll never be rich, but by god, I do what I like now.

blasphemicassault ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I will get violently ill if I eat even a little lick of cookie dough.

Teamrayray ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:47:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Catholicism!

Fragabond ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:47:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to unlearn the way I broke up with girls. The first girlfriend I ever broke up with I ghosted, with help from my dad. I was 14 and "dating" this girl who lived kinda far away from me. She was a sweetheart, but the distance and my attention span were eating at my interest. After the last time I saw her I didn't call her for a few days and didn't return her calls either. The last time she called I let it go to the answering machine and she left a very distressed sounding message. I remember listening to her leave it and she was crying. All she wanted to know was why I hadn't returned her calls. She just wanted to know what was going on.

My dad was standing right there listening with me. He could see the confusion in my face because I didn't know what to do. I wanted to answer but I was scared and didn't know what to say. What my dad should have said was "you need to answer that phone and tell her how you're feeling", but what he ended up saying was "you don't have to answer if you don't want to."

Every since then, that's how I broke up with girls. I just broke contact. It wasn't until I was in my early twenties that I realized what I was doing and that it was fucking spineless.

Horrorshow13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:47:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

From louisiana: thre's aligators down there...the drainage grates in parking lots... i still cant walk over them without thinking theres aligators down there...

xthatguy339x ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:48:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Not from parents but rather a cartoon when I was little. There was this one episode of that old cartoon called "Ed Edd and Eddy" in which the dumb Edd (did he have autism or something) pronounced vegetables as something like veg-a-tebles. I knew how to pronounce it correctly but being a stupid 7 year old I went around for a week or so imitating that pronunciation of vegetables for laughs cus I thought it was hilarious. The problem was that I essentially lost the ability to pronounce it correctly. No matter how hard I tried I could not say vegetable but instead incorrect and stupid mispronunciations, even when I heard it said correctly. It wasn't for a year or two afterwards that a teacher found me saying it wrong and helped me get it right.

TL;DR forgot how to pronounce vegetables because of a cartoon

kingbane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:49:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that ambition was a bad thing.

ribbediguana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:49:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

First day at new school as a 15 year old. "Just try and be like everyone else."

That leads to making bad decisions about being accepted by anyone who gives you attention. Popularity isn't the most important thing about high school kids.

Critical thinking gets you much further in life than trying to fit in with the first group who approaches you....

nevernudefoundation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:49:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No to be homophobic. Since I am gay.

NetteSoDank ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:49:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That there is anxiety in everything. Gotta unlearn an entire mental illness.

michiruwater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:49:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That women should never call themselves smart because it's arrogant.

And also to say sorry after everything.

winterspan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:50:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Avoidance of difficult conversations and expression of emotions.

Suicidal_Ghost ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:50:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was the last child and the only son. My sisters and I had an 9 and 15 year difference in age. My dad taught me low self-esteem and that I would never live up to his idealized fantasy of what his much anticipated and only son should be. Luckily, my mother taught me about unconditional love.

JesusIsMyGayCousin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:50:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That God is watching.

vwguy1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:50:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To stand up for myself. In elementary school all the way to sophmore in high school, which is from 4 years old to about 16 years old, I always got yelled at when I got detention for "starting fights because someone said something mean to me." I was little when I was a kid and super skinny, but I had a huge passion when I fought someone. I got beat but so did the other kid. When I got tired of getting shoved, picked up, thrown, called names, getting miscellaneous objects tossed at me I would play the bully's game to fucking win. Then once I was getting screamed at by my parents and my mom goes and picks me up and starts shoving me hard which almost knocked me over. She was yelling at the top of her lungs asking if I liked getting shoved for no reason to which I replied, "no, that's why I pushed the kid back" which she yelled more and said I always had an answer for everything, well I pushed back and she put a mom sized hole in my wall. After that I never got talked to again after getting sent home for fucking up some bully aside from getting asked if he deserved it.

alltechhub4u ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:51:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

M not read this becouse that was really pain full and painfull to do

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:51:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother came from poverty and my father came from wealth, I grew up middle class. Learning what a reasonable lifestyle or amount of money to spend on something is challenging since my points of reference are at two extremes. (Same with my aunts and uncles, so no help there.)

Luck88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:52:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That my mother isn't a trustworthy "mirror" when I prepared to go outside for the night I always asked my mom "Are my hair ok ?" and she always said "yeah, they are nice !" only to go out without combing them and looking like a tramp

candyman337 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:52:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Conservative ideals

abruce123412 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:53:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to unlearn that I can trust my parents to give accurate information when they were saying "smelly farts cure cancer"

reallynormal_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:53:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That they're human too, not the perfect people I always thought of them as a kid. They are capable of making mistakes too, and just because they're older than me does not mean they know everything and have the right attitude for everything.

Lavenderlemons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:54:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Guilt tripping. My mother is pro at this and I unfortunately picked it up. I was largely able to beat the habit but still slip up every now and again.

jamiebabe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:54:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not leaving the dinner table before finishing the whole plate

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:54:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That if I made a funny face it really wouldn't get stuck like that.

OCDfoYO_CT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:55:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Don't sin or you won't go to heaven."

Neoxon360 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:57:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That all black people are dangerous and not trustworthy. I got plenty of black friends and they are some of the best people out there.

gkrazy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:58:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you, good luck to you too! In retrospect, it is quite fun to laugh about it now with my friends

point51 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:59:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mostly religion and racism... But also that potatoes and corn are healthy for every meal.

gonzooo6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Clear your plate"

Terrible advice.

mzippy95 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That democrat was a bad word.

konalove44 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That most black people are criminals.

My mom said something mean about a black person when I was 11. I told her she was being racist. She then explained that she wasn't racist, it's just that all the black people in Peru (where she grew up) are criminals. It sounded logical at the time... it took a few years until I was like, "Nope, still fucking racist."

lazykid348 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everything...

foodude84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

White privilege

Gambitzz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:01:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cooking steak to very very well done

FlyAwayPanda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:08:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same! My mom would say ALL meat must be cooked very well done.

poopiepinata ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:01:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That cracking your knuckles causes arthritis.

Howell2010 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:01:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That Ear Wigs don't crawl into your ears and eat your ear drums.

That you don't instantly die if a florescent bulb breaks near you.

That my mom isn't god's representitive on earth and should be believed and followed above all things.

And countless old wives tales that I learned later in life were false.

Honestly, I could even go on about stuff I was taught in school that I later had to unlearn, for example, that the US sided with the UK because we spoke english, and back during the days of the American revolution the US was planning to have German as the national language and if they had, the US would have been on Germany's side during WW2. Later research told me that basically everything this 9th grade/year history teacher said here was completely wrong in every way.

This teacher also taught my class that the trading and bartering system didn't work because at some point someone would have something no one else needed and thus couldn't get what he needed by trading it.

Everything I've been taught my whole life has been wrong.

WatercupNewborn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:31:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Where the fuck did you go to school?!

Howell2010 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:38:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

USA, Washington, Sumner Junior High

CrapAssSysadmin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"You can eat anything you want and as much as you want as long as you work out!"

Yeah, sure, if your goal is to be 20 pounds overweight with a stellar resting heart rate.

DeadlyDuckie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:06:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not to reveal an extension cord around your elbow, that shit just wrecks them

fatPurplegator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:06:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Financial dumbassery

romeodiienno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:06:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Vaccinations don't cause autism and to get them myself

Zemedelphos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:08:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad taught me that exposing negative emotion in any visible way was wrong...unless it wasn't me doing it.

Not actively taught, but that's what I gleaned from the fact that I'd get in trouble for, say, getting upset that someone approaching on the road driving too slowly and preventing be from turning.

brainsandkuru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:09:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to be an asshole

joekinley ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:09:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you do NOT get warts when you touch a toad

PuffPuff74 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You do?

joekinley ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:18:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No you don't. ... Maybe I phrased that wrong

airblasto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:11:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good old-fashioned Kansas small-town racism.

Iokuas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:12:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good things come to those who wait. Fuck that shit. If I sit around and wait for things I want, they'll pass me by.

420_5eva ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:12:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I don't have to finish all the food on my plate.

Even as an adult cooking for myself I have to remind myself not to eat past being full, because the importance of not wasting food was drilled into me so hard.

Cropod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:12:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was a sophomore in high school, my parents convinced me that in order for me to get car insurance for our spare family car, I would have to maintain an A-B average throughout the entire year. I always had trusted my parents until then.

Around the last few days of school I overheard a classmate asking our teacher about car insurance and what the school policy on it was. She told him to just go to the front office and tell them to fax over a document to your insurance company, all I had to do was complete drivers Ed. (Which I had complete in the first half of the year.) Haven't trusted my parents without thinking about it since.

Angsty_Potatos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to unlearn how to be the mediator or the stress overflow.

Parents fought like crazy growing up and I grew into a very anxious child as such. I was 110% constantly on the alert for signs a fight was brewing so I could attempt to deflect or distract them. I would willingly make myself a scape goat if it meant peace. I also learned to not rock the boat. No (obvious) disagreement. No causing stress of any kind.

Until I left home at 17 my life was lived on egg shells. Even now at 28 my SO l catch me attempting to shift blame to my self to de-escelate brewing conflicts. Regardless of what happened or who is at fault

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

going to college is a good idea

Sanguine230 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mum always told me to never shave my legs, as I'd regret it later when the hairs grew back thicker and darker (I'm female btw). I put up with spidery legs until I was 15 when I realised I'd had enough of hiding them constantly and shaved them. Felt so damn refreshing.

IAmAGoodPersonn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:42:51 on September 26, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom said the same thing to me, but I'm a guy

badcaptainbeefheart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being a pompous ass.

hiku08 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:14:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not to trust anyone except them

kinokomushroom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:14:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I played Catan at my friend's house, and the rules were a bit different. I never knew that the robber could only go to an adjacent tile.

haventbeensedated ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:14:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"It's better to get along than be right" almost got my x-rays taken wrong at the drs.

nancyaw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:14:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was taught that I was useless, a burden, unloveable, defective (born deaf but now I hear just fine with a bone anchored hearing aid). I used to listen to Carole King singing "winter, spring, summer or fall/all you got to do is call/and I'll be there" and in my head I'd beg her to hear me somehow and rescue me. No one ever did, but my mother killed herself when I was 14 so that solved that problem. I still (at 52) wonder why anyone would want me-those feelings you get in the wee small hours of the morning, you know? Anyway, I survived.

Nickerbudz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:15:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to love and be loved. Also, communication.. Yea that's been fun.

ayechrissy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:15:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As many parents do, they taught me to finish EVERYTHING on my plate, to never waste food. We didn't have much money, so I definitely can't blame them, but I'm still unlearning unhealthy eating habits and that I can stop eating when I'm full.

LadyDicks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That all meat had to be cooked to near jerky. I didn't have my first med-rare steak til I was 16. I couldn't bring myself to eat any sort of pork before I started dating my now husband, and tasted how delicious ham and pork chops can really be.

andijp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not my parents, but I had a fourth grade teacher teach my entire class that sunscreen was a drug and for years I believed that.

Iouboutin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

faithle55 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity.

They weren't evangelists, or anything, just the usual Church of England background.

Interestingly, since then they've both unlearned it as well!

trackerjakker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Right now I have my 6 year old daughter believing clouds are made from the factories with the big smoke stacks. We call them cloud factories.

thisisnotmario ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents told me that the HIV virus is formed (yes, formed) when two men kiss or have sex.

BadaBing626 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion. Christianity to be exact. The only atheist in my Armenian family and circle of friends.

shotukan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was a kid in the 70s, my grandmother wouldn't let me drink from a water fountain because a little black kid had just drank from it. She said "Niggers don't clean themselves. You'll get sick." For years after that, I had it in my head that black people carried diseases and wouldn't drink after them at water fountains, let alone trying to be friends with any of them. Looking back on it now, I imagine that she, as a child of the 30s and 40s, was around before the civil rights movement and never had the inclination to change her way of thinking. I don't think she meant to make me racist... she was just telling me what she had been raised to think. But even still... she implanted that racist thought in my head and it took me a long time before I realized that by following her advice, I actually was being racist. And I'm glad. I have a lot of great black friends now and my life wouldn't be the same without them.

willcontourforcash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That electric blankets are leeches of electricity. They won't actually run up your bills every month, but my parents were convinced.

pieandlatteslover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My eating habits. My father used to be a chef, my mother has diabetes, my sister is a size 24. Once I moved out, I had to relearn how to cook, what to eat, how much to eat, how often to eat, how not to overeat! I am currently studying to be a Pilates instructor. Needless to say, my lifestyle is a tad different to theirs. I love them all and wish they could be more healthy, but I guess I will settle with happy, for now.

LongLiveLenin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That vaccines are give you autism. I don't care but I became angry so I will go get my vaccines anyway. I missed at least 4 or 5 not mandatory. I'll get them all one time too.

Games_sans_frontiers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents taught me to hide my emotions so that no one could hurt me, not to show my feelings. Had to unlearn that to some extent as I realised that no one could hurt me was good but the flip side of that was that it hindered forming friendship bonds and finding love.

Raxiuscore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Follow your dreams

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:18:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't talk or ask about money.

Danmarinja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:18:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My entire family is incredibly judgemental and I find it hard to talk to someone irl about things I like to someone, even if the person I'm talking to has a common interest

sharpiejojo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:19:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cheese is bad for you. And if you eat pizza, you will get diabetes, go blind, and die.

lupuscapabilis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:20:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I should appreciate my good job being a programmer and make good money for as long as possible. Of course I quit that job and went freelance and now make more money than I ever would have made in a cubicle, and work from home. Suck it, mom. Still love ya.

elmono31 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:20:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Eat everything on your plate"

awwaygirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:20:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be terrified of snakes.

big-phat-pratt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:20:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The entire mormon doctrine

cmedrive ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

People are basically good. Maybe it's just because I'm in America now but goddammit I see and experience people being so shitty to each other.

imperialmoose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A passive agressive communication style. It took many, many years to realise that I shouldn't expect people to read my mind, and if I had a problem with something and didn't say anything, then it was my fault if the problem continued.

dcoils101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be afraid of everything. Everything that was fun like riding 4 wheelers, skiing, most outdoor recreation for that matter, was all just too "dangerous." my father was so scared of his sons being hurt that he didn't consider he was making us afraid to live life.

DOATAILZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everything in this thread is being downvoted...

uncleseano ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mum told me that girls pee perfume and fart rainbows. She was only half right... My better half certainly pees and FARTS

kitcatkid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was always encouraged to "be myself" "dress for comfort" "it's what is on the inside that counts" and "don't mind what others think." As a result, I never cared what others thought of my appearance or how they perceived me. Going back and looking at photos is painful. My hair was a bushy mess, flower print pants everyday, freebie shirts from computer conventions, baggy baggy clothes, and color combos like pink and black flower pants with a bright seafoam colored oversized sweatshirt. (I loved that bright seafoam sweatshirt, it was soft and comforting so I wore it proudly. But looking back, it matched nothing I wore and made me stick out like a sore thumb. I think I started realizing how strange my appearance was around my second year of college.

shafthurtsalot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sex or anything sexual that isn't for reproduction is extremely taboo and morally wrong. I didn't have the sex talk until I was 17. I was a very confused, sheltered teen.

YigitS9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

everything about food really. Steak is undercooked if it's not well done. If you don't eat bread with your meal, you won't feel full. It's better for you to eat until you throw up than leaving a tiny little bit of food on your plate. And other little things.

Danleyb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you should never show your emotions. Took me years of alcohol abuse to learn that it's ok to cry like a bitch in front of people.

Snack_timez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is violence is the best answer to change someone else's opinion. My dad was trying to force me to stand up for my beliefs but he always made it seem that if you get in an argument with someone else you should throw a punch before they get a chance to because they always will. After quite a few fist fights growing up I realized violence is rarely a solution to anything and usually causes more problems.

StElmosInferno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Portion control. My dad drilled this idea into my head that eating was some sort of game or competition. Completely fucked my self control. I have to consciously stop eating or an entire medium pizza could just be fucking gone.

McMilla1228 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That there's good in every single person. In college I learned pretty quickly that there are some despicable people who have no redeeming qualities. And meeting those people, or person rather, really made me think. It gets really hard to stay optimistic when someone causes your friend to self-harm to the point of being hospitalized, and feels zero remorse. It's hard to stay optimistic when all she does is treat her boyfriend so shittily that he's practically a completely different person from the friend he once was. It's hard to stay optimistic when someone acts like your friend only to stab you in the back when it's convenient.

But I also learned to not let people like that turn me into a pessimist. I learned that I shouldn't meet a person and think "What don't I like about them?" I still try to see the good in everyone I meet, but I'm a bit more of a realist when it comes to their actions. I no longer assume that all people are inherently good at heart, but I don't lose hope that most people are at least civil to one another.

syvvie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:22:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hoarding. My mother has a hard time throwing stuff away. Not like you see on TV where they live in filth, she just sees value in stuff. She loves to keep boxes because stuff can go in them, and she keeps bags....loves notebooks and old calendars (for the pictures I guess). She also has kept all of my baby cloths and all of my cloths growing up...thinks my son is going to wear them. When I got married I had some of the same tendencies, but my wife broke those quickly. We've been slowly trying to do the same to my mom for the past 10+ years. Progress has been make though, just today we went there and finished cleaning out a room that hasn't been empty in 19 years.

JDWin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:23:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mormonism

diet_pepsi_bottle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:23:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Women are better than men.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:24:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to be an entitled bigot.

bluewalletsings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:24:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That people who are good-looking are intelligent and will live a good life. She's really into face-fortune telling. I used to believe in that as well when I was little.

TapirOfZelph ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:24:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mormonism

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:24:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maintain your cars. Don't just drive them til they break and either pay crazy repairs or buy another used car

MoonPiss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:24:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eating.

Fatguyinayellowcoat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:24:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eating. All my life I had junk food until recently. Cut it all out. Sure, you can eat it sometimes. But I went cold turkey and never looked back. Good riddance.

Justcallmegreen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:24:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I before E except after C

bollshot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:24:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom saying that cold water makes you fatter and that hot water is the best.

TDPriest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:25:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:26:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To always finish everything on my plate no matter if I was hungry or not. I overeat as an adult and it's super hard to leave things on my plate now even though I know I'm full and content.

sindaine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:26:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I have no value or worth as a person besides what I can do for or give to someone else. Still working on unlearning that one.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:26:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Carnism

Bronn_McClane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:27:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be accepting and view everyone equally. White people and western civilization are responsible for most of what makes the world work.

lkxyz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:28:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

White power!

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:33:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

agreed.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:27:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shout out to everyone who went to college and learned to cook better than their parents in like a month and a half.

kinkyaboutjewelry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:28:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The wrong rules to Risk.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:28:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

EVERYTHING*

HashtagBossLady ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:28:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:28:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Have fun with that...

Kingtoke1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:29:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to treat a woman. In reality they are far more likely to have sex with me if i treat them mean

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:32:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm still unlearning

SideShow222 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:29:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Leaving garbage in a theater is, ok.

LoLBattleSeraph ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:30:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Gay people are sinful, and that people who have sex out of marriage are going to hell. Was raised in a Christian home and when I grew older I realized that I didn't actually feel like gay people were bad. When I had sex the first time I realized "shit this is awesome". Then I decided Christianity wasn't for me, and that it is okay to not believe. That's another thing I learned too, that it's okay to not believe in the bible.

TheCheshireKattt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:30:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not both my parents, just my mom... but she raised me with the only form of discipline being complete and total ass kickings. And screaming like a psychopath. I now have my own daughter and a step son, and I swore to myself the day I found out that I was pregnant, that I would be the one mother in my family to break the cycle of abuse.

My daughter is almost 8 and im proud to say I've never hit her for anything. Most parents that comes naturally. But its hard for me sometimes and I have very little patience; I admit that I do "yell" a lot, but I've never lost my shit and attacked her. My mother always did. It was so bad that i was legally emancipated when I was 15. But I have self control. My mom never had that and neither did her mother. So it's a big thing for me. And it was an extremely hard thing to unlearn.

Worth it though.

Syeanide ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:30:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We were all members of the clean plate club. You had to finish everything in your plate, no exceptions. Needless to say, I'm now a fatty with no concept of portion control. Trying very hard to break out of this and finally having some success. โ˜บ

Windiigo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:30:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad's food snobbery.

Honestly I love food; but I am disabled and living like him would get me broke in a week. Eating good food is nice; but a E 20 piece of duck for one meal is really not a good idea when you have a food budget of E 50 a week.

Years and years I have been on disability and my dad still doesn't understand that I don't have wine for him to drink and that I don't cook from the books of celebrity chefs and go to restaurants regularly. Because he raised me to appreciate food; so why do I make do with supermarket crap?

He just can't wrap his head around what it's like to be poor because he never was; and when he thinks he's helping me by buying me food he brings me a bottle of expensive wine or some luxurious tiny portion of smoked salmon that doesn't even constitute one meal.

I tell him that it's nice but I'd rather have basics like potatoes and vegetables; but after all these years he still just doesn't get it. I've given up on trying to explain it. And oh well; I guess some E20 salmon sometimes is nice..

Slushomatic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:30:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My wife thinks that if you leave food out for like an hour it instantly goes bad. Like we will go to dinner. Bring home leftovers. And if we don't go directly home she says the food is bad and we'll get sick.

pynewbie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:30:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That at night or for maintenance they would turn the water off at Niagara Falls. So when we would travel past the falls my family was always saying things like I sure hope they have the falls on today!

felixmkay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:31:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That jesus was real and that if you pray and you really mean it you might get what you want. I prayed seriously for most of my childhood and I learned it was all a bunch of bullshit on my teenage years...It was one of the best moments of my life

DontLookMommie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:31:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm not going to go to be damned for eternity just because I'm a man who is attracted to men. I'm in my 20s and still can't kiss my boyfriend without some form of guilt and fear coursing through my body.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:31:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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newbts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:08:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't listen to the troll that commented. Take care of yourself but don't be afraid to ask for help if you need it.

Darkmemeuser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:31:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't talk to strangers.

baggydaddy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:33:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That a "nigger" doesn't automatically mean a black person.

StephenRebel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:33:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My father wanted to speak to me only in English as an infant so that I would grow bilingual , but his English is not good so luckily he gave up, but it would have been pretty hard to relearn a "native " language .

AticusCaticus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:35:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Never trully trust in anyone thats not your family. Everyone has an agenda and is trying to take advantage of you one way or another. Don't be so naive"

No mom, you just have shitty friends and surround yourself with shit people.

theSnake_Doctor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:36:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In the early 90s no one knew anything about aids. Well at least my mom didn't so i thought public toilets could give you aids. To this day i still make a damn tissue fort before i do the most urgent of business.

gypsy_hunter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:37:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion, politics, and what I should look for and want out of a relationship.

bobwulff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:39:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That having different political opinions is bad and stupid and wrong.

AllBecomesOne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:41:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Don't trust anyone til they give you a reason to trust them."

He's 55 and alone.

mahwish787 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:42:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nothing

redux_512 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:43:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The belt/spanking.Wasnt used excessively I could just be very bishehaved and stubborn. Go to bed without supper? fine I'll starve, your loss. grounded? sneaking out at night was an everyday thing. Physical punishment was the only thing that worked and to be honest I would take a few minutes of pain over psychological torture. Got the same point across. You do bad things, bad things happen to you.

SmallManBigMouth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:43:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That "God is dead, SATAN LIVES!"

(I'm Rosemary's Baby)

Baalinooo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:43:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:44:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There are only 2 ways to order/ cook eggs. Scrambled or dippy. Dippy being sunny side up, because you pop the yolk and dip your toast in it.

DaShaka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:44:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pissing myself.

toxic08 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:44:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

too much religion. Our house is doomed before going to church.

PoofythePuppy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:44:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Catholicism.

Gatenka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:44:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother used to say "don't tell lies". What she really meant was "don't tell lies, unless it's convenient."

It took me over 4 years to learn the difference between lies of convenience and lies of necessity.

Loistradyn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:45:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being a Republican

another_onetwo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:45:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad taught me very young that people don't change. However, change is the only thing that kids do; they grow up, become their own person.

I can understand his reasoning. He had me, the youngest of three, at age 49. My mom cheated on him, friends came and gone. It's just that some sour people left a bitter taste in his mouth. I love my dad, but I learned he is human too

tck4life ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:45:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That my sexual purity dictated my worth. That was more my community I guess, but it took a few failed relationships to learn that my value as a person came from my my character, heart, and who Jesus created me to be. (Note: I grew up in a strict, cult setting and only was able to find sanity/hope in a progressive Christian setting).

Tcaht ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:45:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom told me that I had to wait until the microwave was done beeping or else I would get radiation poisoning. I learned last year at the age of 18 that this was not true, but it still bothers me to open the microwave after only the first beep or so...

jamiepatterson1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:45:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Superstition.

The stupidest waste of time. Ever.

writelikeiknowme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:45:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fear of normal things :)

ulenie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:46:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Morality

AceBenedict23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:46:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Man....this stuff really hits home

My dad pretty much tried to be a tyrant over me and always felt like he had to try to establish his dominance over me by screaming or beating me.

Unfortunately for him, I'm extremely strong willed and stubborn and always chose to take the beating over being forced to conform to anything, whether that was his religion or other beliefs on different things.

Also interesting, he was quite self contradicting when it came to standing up for myself. On one hand if someone was physically putting their hands on me, and I responded in kind he literally took me aside and started screaming at me to never put my hands on anyone. He wanted me to "go tell a teacher". On the other hand when I started to slowly get to the point where I would take shit from people, he pulled me aside and screamed at me for "not standing up for myself".

I'm 6'5 and he also made me wear humongous clothes growing up,(that was a nightmare) and never taught me how to do many things socially that I would need. Led to me being awkward and shy among other things for a while. I didn't have my mother in my life from an early age so I didn't get to learn many things only a woman can teach her kids emotionally.

Great post btw

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:46:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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lilbud2000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:55:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My friends parents believe the same thing.

waishas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:46:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That conditioner is not called "cream rinse". I got laughed at so much. :(

meandyourmom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:47:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom was a passive aggressive princess. And my dad doted over her. Dad wants to eat somewhere that mom doesn't like...mom passive-aggressively says it's fine and sulks until you make it right (by giving her what she wants). My wife had to teach me that when she said "that's fine" that it really is fine, and there's no hidden meaning behind her words. My wife is just passive without the aggressive, she's very agreeable.

TheFreeeze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:47:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't unlearn it soon enough, but the idea that its some impossible dream to be a professional athlete.

Strifethor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:47:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

Mclovin1524 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:48:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Growing up in a conservative mexican household, ive had to unlearn several things

One: everything does not happen for a reason. For example: someone young dies in a tragic accident. God needed another angel.

Two: Having plump overweight kids is not a sign that they are healthy and that you are succeding in life. On the contrary, lower income households have diets that are poor (low nutrients, high calorie).

Three: It is alright for men to show emotion once in a while. The macho mentality is very high. For example: helping the wife sweep or take care of the kids is not a man's responsibility. A man crying or sheding a tear is a big No No.

Four: Mexican remedies/ superstitions are very common. A pregnant mother's saliva does not help in healing wounds. A nursing mother should not be exposed to strong emotions, doing so will harm the baby's mental health. Drinking cold water does not give you a sore throat. Being barefoot does not give make you numb.

Five: There is nothing wrong with teaching your kids discipline. Doing it in syllables with a belt is unecessary. Don't-do-that-ev-er-a-gain!! (7hits).

Six: Nothing wrong with LGBT people, it's ok to be into someone that is not your same race, and people of different faiths such as atheism are not bad people.

Seven: it's okay to do other forms of physical activity for exercise. With mexican culture, activities such as yoga and running are frowned upon. If it isn't soccor it is not worth your time. Dieting is also viewed as a form of being ungrateful towards food.

jackidoc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:48:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom is the nicest person I've ever met, but she taught me not to eat more than 1000 calories a day, that I shouldn't wear tight clothes, that anything to do with sex and sexuality is disgusting and inappropriate, that I should never sit without crossing my legs like a lady, that all guys are assholes and it's not ok to trust them, that I shouldn't talk about my problems or show negative emotions, and that I should love everyone like Jesus and therefore should never hate anyone or get angry.

TheYearOfThe_Rat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:49:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ITT: Religion causes people to be gay.

mxsrPL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:51:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

After i have been diagnosed with Aspergers, nobody in my Familie gave a shit and said that i fake it. They dont support me. They just shout and expect me to behave.

Its only 2 years left, then i will be old enough to fuck off from home.

dranedry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:52:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents told me I was smart, handsome, talented, funny, cool, all sorts of good stuff.

This may sound great, except... I wasn't any of those things. So when everyone in school told me the truth, I had a hard time believing them. I went to my mom and asked why the kids (and even adults) said the opposite of her.

She told me 'They're just jealous of you!"

I know she didn't mean any harm, but, she did more damage than she realized. Now I have a hard time believing anything she says, especially if it seems too good to be true.

amyswife ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:52:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Table manners.

It wasn't until freshmen year of high school that one of my friends pulled me aside to tell me that I chewed with my mouth open during lunch. Now I'm super aware of how I eat and I can hardly eat meals with my family without becoming nauseous.

Chewing with mouths open, taking huge bites and chewing for one or two bites and then swallowing them which makes a really gross sound, slurping as they gulp their water, choking because they eat like it's their last meal, burping at the table on purpose. It's making me nauseous just thinking of them eat lol

AntiEmerald ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:52:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That its okay to fuck your children

Skreamie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:54:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everything.

  • That money is everything.
  • That college is not for everyone and to go straight to a job.
  • That the way they treated my brother and I was normal.
  • That every other person is treated exactly as we were.
  • That them taking any little money I earned was done by others.
beaverteeth92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:54:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bad financial habits.

Dingdangdonk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:54:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not saying "I love you, but I don't like you" to people I love. My mom said this to me a lot when she was upset with me while I was growing up. I just thought..it's ok, she loves me. It's cool to openly dislike the people you love. It wasn't until I was an adult and said it to my gf that I realized that it wasn't ok unless I wanted to love her from afar. She asked me why I wanted to be around someone I don't like. I had no answer. I did like her. That one sentence made me question my entire relationship with my mother and seriously bummed me out.

SpookyFrito ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:54:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, I am staunchly childfree. I have kitties that I adore and spoil. No future harm done.

SpookyFrito ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:55:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Except for spoiled kitties that is :)

WatercupNewborn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:55:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom told me that my dad had a large penis and that is wouldn't need to worry.

But now I'm an adult at college and I have a small penis :(

pastprologue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:55:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nothing. I don't know how to be independent because my parents have always done everything for me and babied me.

yougoattobekidding ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:56:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, it wasn't my parents but my foster parent always taught me "Always put others first" for years I didn't take my feelings into account when making decisions. I still have a real problem with it. I always think I'm selfish when I don't please someone.

Jhon_Xd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:57:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't Hurt anyone.

rafaelement ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:57:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I now hate anything related to homeopathy, spirituality(the modern kind), superstition(the modern kind) and generally esoterics.

PalpatineWasFramed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:58:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to not be an asshole. Fuck me!!!

The_0bserver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:58:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We weren't really poor, but we could just go by, so. normally I was conditioned to not ask for stuff. Now I have a decent job, with good pay etc. No clue what I'm supposed to be doing with that money as I can live off of just a fraction of that. Well, more for savings / investments I suppose. :/

mashnik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:59:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That republicanism/conservatism is 100% the only correct political ideology and bush was always great.

Gregie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:00:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be shy

cubalibre21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:00:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to eat healthy. We were dirt poor so we didn't eat fresh things. Fresh fruit was unheard of, canned ones are good enough. It still counts as your daily fruit. I've been working on eating better and it's been slow going. Sometimes all a person wants is deep fried and starchy.

Also my mom is a born again Christian so there is a ton of crap she believes. Like you can't enjoy sex outside of marriage, women need to get married, you need to have babies, gambling is a sin, alcohol is the Devil's liquor, and so many more.

I'm her biggest dissapointment. I'm non religious, never want children or to be married and I work as a bartender in a casino. She's never even set foot in the building I work in.

texan75 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:00:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's was OK for some of the men in the family to rape some of us girls. We'll just sweep last night under the rug...AGAIN! And no, I didn't have to "unlearn" that sick fucking shit. I am still learning that I'm safe now in life at the age of 41. Pretty sure that's where I get my extreme insomnia from, they always did that shit after I went to sleep. Pussy's!

rnmalnb90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:01:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents were very strict about my siblings and I calling other adults Mr. or Mrs. whoever instead of by their first name. They would get really mad when my friends would call them by their first name too, which was so embarrassing for me when I was a kid. Many of my friends parents would correct me and tell me to call them by their first name but I just couldn't do it, it felt so wired and I was always afraid my parents would find out! I'm in my mid twenties now and I still have a hard time when I see some of my childhood friends' parents. I usually just say, "Hey..... Nice to see you" and try very hard to avoid saying a name at all.

HeyCynth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:01:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To treat everyone with kindness and courtesy. Some are just cunts. Most are nice though.

DeafAgileNut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:01:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I was a handsome genius...In all honesty I'm an adorable idiot savant.

hahahoss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:23:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here lmao. Realized that in college pretty quick.

ooa3603 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:01:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents were always late to everything so grew up with a poor sense of timing and picked up the habit. Let's just say I had a rough time when I joined the military.

nerfpirate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Calling plastic bags baggies, clocks clockies, and our collander the colly.

Shophetim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism. My mom was slightly racist against Mexicans (growing up in a Mexican majority area). Her father spat on Jews and I believe supported the Nazis back in the day. Fun times.

therearemanyaccounts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

Rigo2000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A lot of things I bet. My mom is a loving and caring woman, but I've come to realize that she just isn't very smart. I constantly reflect on simple actions and think "Am I doing this because it's smart or because it's how my mom taught me to do it, because then it's probably not right". She was convinced that you couldn't put on the stove-suction-thingy while opening the windows because it would have to suck out more air and it would use more power to do so.

kytosol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to be in a relationship.

rktkn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:03:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This thread is helping me unlearn a lot of things.... I have shitty parents...

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:03:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother convinced me that Arnold Schwarzenegger was deaf and that's why he spoke with an accent. I figured it out in my early teens but my oldest sister didn't find out until she hit her mid thirties.

tehWoody ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:03:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is actually about my friend, but his mums sunday roasts. she insists that she has to do her own gravy and not the pots you add water to. but she then says that it's too difficult so they just have a roast without gravy. he now hates all roasts.

SeraphInfinite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:03:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Other people's opinion matter and their opinions should affect how I love my life.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:03:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents taught me that putting metal spoons or any other metal silverware with food in the microwave will literally blow the microwave up. When I tried to prove them wrong by heating up food with a spoon in it, they couldn't even look at me do it, they had to leave the room and they were so angry at me for not listening to them... lol

Momma_Blue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:04:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents told me that I had to respect everyone, but mostly older people. What I am teaching my children is that you respect people who treat you with respect, no matter what their age. Stay away from people who are disrespectful to you. You do not have to put up with that.

strippingworrior ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:04:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mormonism

MaximillianKaspar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:04:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That running a business was for much more intelligent people than us.

Came from a poor family who equated wealth with intelligence. The rich people had all the intelligence and we weren't that clever.

Got to university and found out that I am pretty smart. Achieved 2 honours degrees, one in Computer Science and another in Mathematics (did the second one just for fun - yeah I am just that awesome).

Now run a business with a turnover of ยฃ700k per year.

Also volunteer at schools and other establishments for poor kids, teaching them that they are clever too. If I can do it, so can they.

Love life.

Sagybagy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:04:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That gay people are the spawn of satan. Seriously, my parents thought gay people are sinners and horrible, people. Looking back on high school I feel like a total dick and wish I could go back to that time. We had one kid that was open about being gay and got so much shit for it.

MaximumCat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:04:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

From my mother: interrupting others who are speaking. She did this all the time. Possibly one of the most socially awkward and rude behaviors I can think of. It took years to unlearn this fully. It was awful.

hacklemore07 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:05:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That all people with tattoos are bad people, criminals and dont achieve anything in life. I now have 8 tattoos and achieved more than they even thought i could

awaythrow9118172 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:05:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Had (am still learning) to unlearn being extremely passive, non-confrontational, and never talking about problems and instead just hoping they go away. It just doesn't work for me I guess. Gotta learn to be more assertive, stand up for myself and address problems.

thavmasto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:05:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To use proper words for penises and vaginas

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:06:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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hahahoss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:20:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You still with the guy that taught you that's not true?

phdqlr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:06:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't talk to strangers.

LumpyPick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:06:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents use to tell me that eating bananas after dark would give you a stroke

I was so scared to eat one after dark for so long, pretty sure it took me way longer than it should have to realize it was a bunch of bull

GamingSmart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:07:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you should use a qtip to clean your ear every day. It does more harm than good.

LanieLove9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:31:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I second this, as I've had to have my ears flushed many, many times after using q-tips.

thegirlwthemjolnir ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:07:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That as a grown up I have to stay the closest to them as they do with their parents. My mom goes to my grandma's house everyday and so does my dad with her mom. EVERYDAY. We don't eat together as a family, each one eats with their respective mom. Leaving home for college has been the most stressful thing I've handle in my life. They keep asking when will I go back and I am on therapy to fight the guilt.

Uragami ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:07:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hoarding clothes I know I'll never wear again. My mother keeps around clothes from 10 years ago, because she thinks she'll "wear them again when she loses weight". She tried to make me hoard my old clothes as well, but I know I'll never wear those old flared jeans or denim skirts.

monsterinacage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:07:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was raised and taught that if I ignore something it will go away. It still takes all of my strength to acknowledge some things. As a result, I often come off as unconfident but honestly, I have confidence. I'm just used to ignoring what bothers me.

Gai_Fish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:08:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the brown spots on bananas are in fact NOT honey

missjmelville ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:08:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I found it hard to open up to people and tell them how I'm feeling or if something was wrong or just whatever was on my mind (in case it might be something stupid) because whenever I told my mother something in confidence, she went and told her boyfriend who would then ridicule me about it.

I learnt quickly not to tell my mum anything. She couldn't be trusted to take things seriously or keep things in confidence so then I found it hard to trust other people, friends, with anything.

skinny_and_dumb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:08:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

Ngherappa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:08:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Compassion.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:08:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Standing in front of a microwave kills brains cells...

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:09:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That making funny faces doesn't make your face become like that for ever.

You can have a swim after you've eaten and not as i was told not within 3h.

kenshinuswench ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:09:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That they know more about my body than me so I should follow what they say but not the doctor or myself.

That if I'm not trying super hard and winning I should be trying harder. But also I need to make time to watch tv and not spend all my time working. But still get the grades...

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be fair your parents are right to a degree. If you want to be great at something you gotta out work your competition but I will say that if you don't have the passion for it you're wasting your time. Once you find something you love you will always want to win and will spend endless hours trying to be the very best.

r1v3th3ad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:10:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That not everyone has around 10 years worth of food, water, and medicines in their household at one time. It finally clicked in recent years that my parents are old school preppers. Now I give my dad good tips, although mostly on munitions and agricultural.

Also, back during Y2k (and 9/11) I think I was one of the only kids (if not the only one) in my school district with a proper gas mask. I thought that was normal. Eventually started using the thing for rivethead industrial music concerts.

breakninja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:10:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We're called Asians, not B-sians.

lipgloss2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:11:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ITT: some depressing-ass, fucked up shit

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:11:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So this is more from my mom

I'm mixed race and my mom is a violent racist ( still don't know why she married my dad) and she kept telling me that I should hate myself for not being fully white

Long story shot, I ran to my dad's and didn't look back when I was 16 and had to unlearn that not being white wasn't a bad thing

hahahoss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:17:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm assuming your dad isn't white and if that's true I'm confused why a white racist would be with someone who isn't white.. Sorry to hear that tho. Glad you were able to finally find the courage to leave and find something better. How did you unlearn it?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:09 on August 31, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well I started hanging out with and talking to other people that have suffered racism and internal racism and such and they just sort of opened my eyes, I was confused too as why she married him but she did and gave birth to me

Cheese_on_top ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:12:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

WiffleSniffler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity

TalPistol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Unhealthy cooking... I only found out how bad my diet was when I moved out

avantar112 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ignore bully's

YEAH FUCKING RIGHT.

you fucking need to ambush each end every single one with a fucking bat to the knees.

violence is the only thing kids will respond to.

GwonamLord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:58:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

actually, a lot of the more verbal bullies will become disinterested if you ignore them.

avantar112 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:06:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

not true at all.

GwonamLord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:39:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

how come it worked for me then?

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:13:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That women are always right, always and you should be grateful to even be in their presence. Still fucked up to this day about it. Although that's only because when I had a baby with a woman who didn't want me to parent they just supported her. A woman they have never met. :(

FlamingTigerDragon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:14:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Moths are made of dust.

Anthonymarkers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:14:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was taught to never question religion. Also was raised a people pleaser, as everyone wanted me to be a doctor

yesi1758 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:15:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

DON'T TELL ON FAMILY

If someone in your family does something wrong you stick together and don't ever say anything or turn them in.

I've always been someone who knows the difference between right and wrong, even from a young age. When I was 9 my drug dealing uncle lived at our house and I was afraid my parents would get in trouble for his wrongdoings...so I wrote the cops a letter telling them what he was doing. His girlfriend found it before I turned it in and they moved out a week later. Of course I got in trouble.

Then at 14, I found out a different uncle had molested my cousin, so I told a teacher. Again I got in trouble, reprimanded and screamed at.

At 18 I told another drug dealing uncle to not use our house as a hotel when he was driving from Washington weekly and spending the night at our house. I told him his family and him were welcome to visit but if he was coming to make a delivery, then...keep on driving. Again in trouble, my mom stopped talking to me for 6months.

I'd get in trouble every time because it's family and it doesn't matter if they do anything to you or your kids you don't ever tell on them ... Well I didn't get that memo.

If it's wrong it doesn't matter who does it I'm going to tell.

popillil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:15:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Little late to this, but my parents always told me that 'boys don't cry', and they said if they did, they were gay. Being bullied a lot in school didn't help with that.

jdsnype ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:15:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My father uses reverse phsychology. He makes me feel useless and reminds me that I am failure instead of encouragement. He thinks I would feel ashamed of myself and I would try to self-improve. Sort of like how drill seargent in the army does . I can tell he doesn't really mean it even if some of it are true. Now this might work to some people but it backfired on me. It just belittled my self confidence more and at some point reached a depression.

Herimia1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:15:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No so much unlearn but my parents were always very supportive and encouraging. And I love them for it. But it gave me thin skin and I trusted people too much. Ive learnt to be more selfish and self aware otherwise I wouldn't get very far in life - but I still hold on to the values they taught me.

Gourry007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:15:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not to question authority

Stormviolen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:16:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That everything in the world is superdangerous and you can avoid bad stuff by "being careful". Yes, the world is dangerous but it is not that bad. I'm soon thirty and so far I'm doing good for instance never been mugged or raped. And you certainly can't stop some bad stuff from happening to you. Avoiding stuff like traveling alone will not keep you safe, you will only miss out on life experiences.

That I am a messy person. I'm not, I quite like order but it's not on the top of my priorities everyday.

How to exercise. A walk in a really slow tempo once a day is not enough for me.

Food should not be used as a reward or as comfort.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:16:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Body image. Bred in the south, I didn't fit the cookie cutter mold. so my mom always had me on fitness trends and diets with her. Until I was always sneaking her diet pills. At age 14. Finally at 25 I am proud of my curves and no longer feel guilty when I get hungry.

danefalky88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:16:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

According to my father, you clutch then brake. According to my driving instructor and everyone else, its brake then clutch.

joshcomley ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:16:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

TL:DR I had to unlearn that being in lots of pain doesn't mean I'm just a whiny little bitch and instead I might have some very real problems.


What hunger felt like. From around 7 years old I started getting very painful acid reflux in the night, keeping me awake all night. I'd call out loudly for mum and dad, make pained groans, tell them about it the next day but nobody believed me. My older brother would ask "Why were you making all those noises last night again?", when I explained my tummy hurt a lot, he'd say "no it didn't". I found that sneaking downstairs to eat a little something helped relieve the pain a lot, so I learned that feeling was hunger, and figured this must be what extreme hunger felt like. I put on a lot of weight eating in the night to relieve the nightly pain. It was only when staying with my friend around my mid-twenties that my friend explained to me that those pains are acid reflux. I will forever be grateful to her. I still have quite some trouble distinguishing because I learned it so young.

I also had to unlearn that migraines aren't headaches. I started getting migraines about the age of 11, but nobody believed me regarding how much more it hurt, that light was an issue etc. I would try to work at school or later in my day job with migraines pounding, unable to barely even open my eyes for the light, but I just thought "It's a headache, everybody gets headaches I shouldn't complain".

In fact lots of pain related things, for example my back hurt a lot just lying down at night, and my feet hurt whilst walking a lot. Nobody listened, even my mother now admits her and dad both thought "I was just being a whiny little bitch", but it turns out I have very flat feet. This ultimately caused my pain walking and even lying down at night. At 18 I was diagnosed and had some insoles made custom to my feet and the whole world opened up; I could stand up for longer than twenty minutes without pain. Before that, at age 16/17, I was terrified to go to concerts because standing up for so long just hurt too much.

LL112 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:17:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fear. They live a very conservative life that is fueled by risk aversion and fear of the world at large. It took me until my mid 20s to realise it even, but once I went travelling and started a company I found most people are pretty nice most of the time, and that anything is possible with enough confidence and a plan.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:17:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Life

BadMaximus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:18:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can be whatever you want to be.

untiedgames ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:18:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Whenever my parents would buy me a new videogame, we would leave it on the kitchen island so it would "get to room temperature." My parents did this regardless of season or outside temperature. I was finally allowed to play it after 20-30 minutes. As a kid, I was under the impression that if you don't let the cartridge get to room temperature, it could damage the hardware. The wait was agonizing!

My parents are relatively smart with electronics, and surely knew that plugging a slightly warm SNES cart wouldn't be the end of the world. I think the real reason they did this was to teach me patience, and I'll probably end up doing something like that with my eventual kids someday.

tdxTito ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:19:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother always taught me to add two spaces after a period when typing. I had no idea there is only supposed to be one until my sophomore year of college.

mrsym0r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:19:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

Jungian_Ecology ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:19:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I am worthless.

HUN73R_13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:19:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to unlearn everything they taught about religion and history.

todamoda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:20:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents can be very negative. I've to train myself to be a positive person!

Arkarta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:20:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was a kid, I literally believed it was against the law to wear long socks with shorts bcs my mom ws like "the fashion police wont stand for that"

mr_smurf693 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:21:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Anything below a 90 on a test or grade below a B meant I wouldn't get into a community college. Yeah, fuck you dad. I got into a good school and I made B's and A's only because he wouldn't shit the fuck up about calling me a dumbass. Honestly it made me stop caring about school because nothing would make him happy so why did it matter if I made a bad grade or a good grade? He was never satisfied with me and has never told me he loves me. Needless to say I schedule my day around not seeing him and avoiding him at all costs to make myself happy and work long hours and try to never come home.

kkatydid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:21:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That coffee stunts your growth...

IWillStealYourJobs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:21:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If there's a problem, you don't have to talk about it, it'll solve itself out.

slothboy_x2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:22:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

J

Defile24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:22:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Alcoholism

Keamy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:22:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That Christianity, god and Jesus are a bunch of made up shit i should of been told wasn't true around the same time i learned the truth about Santa.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:23:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the vacuum cleaner doesn't actually blow up and kill you if you accidentally run over the cord. I used to have genuine panic attacks having to use the vacuum as a kid and still don't like doing it as an adult even though I now know I'm probably not gonna die.

wombatsilverfox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:23:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad taught me that hot was cold and cold was hot......

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:23:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mormonism.

Poe414141 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:23:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I can't go on roller coasters. My mother is terrified of them. When I was younger and we went to amusement parks, the scariest ride we went on was the Scrambler. My brothers are significantly younger than me, and closer in age, so they went on scary rides together. To this day I have a deep set aversion to roller coasters that I can't overcome because of that.

theluckypunk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:23:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Most of it. Junkies don't make good patents.

uhavetoloveme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:23:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Growing up with teacher parents turned me into a huge smartass. I would always correct people and told them they are wrong. But being alone wasn't fun anymore so I decided in my teens, that I don't have to be so fucking strict about minor stuff people mistake.

CypressBreeze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:24:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ridding myself of the religion they gave me was a very nice change for me.

ntuitive ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:24:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Indian here: that you aren't entitled to greater things in life.

All you were meant to do is - get a job, marry (with a decent dowry), make babies, get a home loan, save & pay EMIs properly, ensure your kids grow up to get a job, marry (with a decent dowry), make babies, get a home loan, save & pay EMIs properly... and you die somewhere in the middle of the second cycle when the 'next you' takes over.. simple & set!

As for your babies, preferably 2 kids - at least one of them has to be a boy, and if the other is a girl, then she better be of a 'fair complexion' as it might be difficult for us to get her married if she's or darker complexion.. also, remember to save AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, cause you ought to give out dowry when she gets married.. although the boy might help recover some of that amount - that is IF he doesn't fall in love with a girl of another caste, in which case the dowry is out of question - and things like that happen because your bad deeds & family curses.. so look out for that

dendydendydendy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:24:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I come from a Russian family, and I was taught that if I sat on a cold floor, the cold would snake into my uterus and make me infertile?

Still can't convince her that that's not how it works.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:24:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So many things! That money doesn't need to spent as soon as you get it (still unlearning this one)

That there is more to life than material possessions

That stability and rules are actually good things

That most people don't just do the bare minimum to care for their children so as to not be accused of neglect. That the people who take an interest in their children are actually the normal ones.

Juliablizzz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:24:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That not every man you marry is a "Yes Man".

My parents have been married 38 years and I have never seen my dad disagree with my mom. She literally gets her way 100% of the time. A good example of this was when my dad was working in Japan for a month and my mom's father unexpectedly passed away (in the Philippines). So she insisted that he fly back to the US to pick her up and then fly back to the Philippines with her. So my dad was in the air a total of 50 (ish) hours in 2 days. While it was incredibly romantic, it was incredibly expensive and taxing on my father.

This type of thinking trickled down all the way to her getting her way with everything in our every day lives, from agreeing to a fact or statement that was straight up just incorrect, to when she was emotionally and verbally abusive to me growing up. At 18, he actually (secretly against her wishes) paid for me to buy a car so I could leave the house and I finally did at 19.

Thankfully my mom and I have a good relationship now and she's changed A LOT but I think it really effected my expectations when I got married and also set me up with some really big lessons on how to be a good parent.

Extiminator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:24:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not my mom, more the rest of my family (uncles/grandma); that skin colour is a means to differentiate people.

I thought, as long as I don't hate black people/immigrants/asians/whatever I'm not racist. But it's this kind of unnoticed distinguishing that is the base of a still not multicultural society. Took me 5 years of living in Amsterdam and a really sweet Egyptian father in law to see otherwise.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:24:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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What is this?

Parzival1234 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:25:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The Christian Religion

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:26:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you can't buy someone's love.

All my life my parents would buy myself and my little brother things, but never really gave us any emotional support. They'd buy us things to show us that they cared. It bled into my adult life something fierce with every boyfriend/girlfriend/best friend/casual acquaintance... that I've ever had. On the flip side of that, I now feel very uncomfortable receiving any gifts at all from anyone. I always want to be the one to pay for everything, because to me it shows that person how much I care about them. If they buy stuff for me? Like... Pay for a date? It means I don't care enough about that person to pay their way.

Also: I didn't know how to properly pronounce 'Jalapeno' until I was like... 18. I would constantly pronounce it like "Japeenough" because that's how my father pronounced it growing up.

LuckyNobody ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:27:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Everything is going well, at least we're not (insert a medical condition, economical difficulties or other horrible stuff in here)", basically, the "no right to complain since other people are doing worse"-mentality meant to bring out positive thoughts and appreciation for what you have. "At least we're alive", "at least we can afford food", "at least we have a loving family", "at least we're together".

It's a nice way to get a positive mentality and honestly works fine for some people (my mother and brother included), but for a long time I had issues related to mental health and no direct external reason for it. Depression isn't the most rational conditions, but at least I was alive so why would I be depressed? This mentality kept me from getting help, since I had no physical symptoms, I was physically and socially just fine, even if a bit shy and introverted. There was no outside reason for suicidal thoughts, so clearly they didn't really matter, since at least I had money to live nicely enough.

Once I got help, and once I realised the problem with that mentality, it was a huge load off my shoulders. 'Cause if you can't be sad if someone is doing worse, you cannot be happy if someone is doing better. And I know for a fact that people are happy even if someone is doing better than they are.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:27:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

watching and trusting the news on TV every day

christems ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:27:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity.

Wolf2776 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:27:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eating carbs and always finishing your plate. My parents are typical white South Africans, so naturally everything we used to eat was meat and carbs. When I was a kid it was a matter of "Have more! Theres plenty of food for all of us! Take more!" When I analyse the dishes we ate regularly, I realise it was all high fat-high carb. My Dad and both of my Grandfathers are diabetic and it scared the shit out of me. Now I've gone the keto way and I haven't looked back. I eat until I'm full and put the rest away for later. I eat less but get more out of my food. Fuck sugar.

mcbrite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:28:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

ThatITguy2015 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:29:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mild racism. I say mild, because while it wasn't full blown KKK, it was full of negative stereotypes and whispering under your breath. Except whispering under your breath in some cases meant talking loud enough to be heard.

As soon as I was old enough to know better, 4 or 5 I think, I changed myself right quick. Sadly, and embarrassingly, my mother is still like that. She will sometimes remember what I've told her and catch herself, but she is getting old enough that she doesn't care much about changing herself anymore.

I think a lot of it stems from the fact that it seems like she doesn't know the full impact of what she says. That is my guess, but I will never be sure.

WhosYaKo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:31:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That Pluto isn't a planet.

Michael074 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:31:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

lots of things. like brush your teeth after a meal. bad idea.

razberry00 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:32:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Using the term half-caste rather than mixed race.

kenshinuswench ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:32:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I agree with this. But every time I did put the effort in they said I was working too hard and made me relax even though I protested that this is what I needed to do to get better they said it was too much. Basically they wanted me to be naturally amazing at everything.

jahoeyII ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:32:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not me but a friend. Her parents taught her that sine, cosine and tangent were dirty words, not to be used by small children. She only found out this wasn't the case in third year of highschool. She was absolutely shocked.

obviousguiri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:33:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That they knew what they were doing or were worth listening to more than 1% of the time.

Ronecore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:33:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism.

ncparlay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:33:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad told me that RPM on the dashboard meant how many times the tires revolved per minute. I looked like a dumsh*t during driver's ed -___-

remino ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:33:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To not apologise.

There are a few things others already mentioned (always getting angry for nothing, always gossip, always buy cheap, etc.), so I'll go with this.

Thinking about it today is strange. But when I was a kid, we were never taught to apologise. If we had an argument, you just screamed at each other, walk away, and both pretend like nothing happened.

So naturally, when I had to deal with people outside of my home, it made me a real, real dick. When I've met people who would apologise and admit wrongs, I was baffled. I thought "Wow. People can do that and it's okay? I should give that a go." I do now, but I'm still not that good.

doubtyoullseeme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:34:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That being falling over, abuse screaming, sobbing, pass out drunk every night was normal. Mums been sober 14 years now :) we unlearned together.

moala ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:34:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

be nice

wildeaboutoscar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:34:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Passive aggression and defensiveness. I didn't realise how negative they were until I moved out and looked at the kind of things that had influenced me from them.

HuffSomePluff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:35:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I used to hate steak because my parents always said that if there was any color left in the meat, it means that it's undercooked and will carry a ton of disease. For nineteen years I grew up eating steaks that were indistinguishable from dog toys. Then after I moved out my roommate took me out for a steak dinner for my birthday and ordered me a medium-rare prime rib. I had to ask multiple times "wait, this is what steak is supposed to taste like?" because I couldn't believe how good it was when I'd grown up thinking that steak just tasted like shit. Three years later, I'm now in culinary school and make the meanest medium-rare steaks that my parents still refuse to try.

SamiAbK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:35:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eating milk and fish together would cause a skin disease. It was said in one of Avicenna's books, so a lot of middle easterners believed it.

whyareyouemailingme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:35:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not entirely sure how to phrase this, but as I grew older and surpassed my mother in technology and minor housekeeping (it takes five seconds more to put the dishes in the damn dishwasher that's right next to the fucking sink I get you have shit to do but five seconds you can spare), I stopped responding to her "I guess I finally did something right" remarks. My dad and I have responded gently before, but at this point it's just childish and frustrating.

I'm also naturally quiet and won't speak up unless I need something, so I've had to unlearn that when I get asked a simple question because it'll inevitably turn into a "you already asked that and I've been here for ten years let me go" kinda conversation. Or "do you want the last ketchup packet?" No, I'm fine. "Are you going to get more?" Do you want me to go get more? "No." Okay. "Do you want the rest of my fries?" If you don't want them. "Okay, but do you want them?" I will eat them if you do not want them. "Okay but do you want more ketchup?"

dontlookdontblink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:35:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

-To pronounce 'th' as 'f' -That it's a chest of drawers and not Chester drawers (for a long time I thought drawers were invented in Chester)

Xerogravsix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:36:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to cook. My mom. she "read" cookbooks, and decided she'd experiment. I was 12 before I learned that spaghetti wasn't supposed to be mushy.

ooh_a_phoenix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:36:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To constantly find the negative in everything and to focus on the downside.

CaesiusGrey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:36:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Does anyone remember the food pyramid? How we were taught to eat 8~12 servings of carbohydrates every day? So yeah, that.

cbmlover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:36:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

racism

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:37:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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jnex26 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:55:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh my parents are big ones for that I lost 120 lbs and was still overweight and my parents started with how much more are you going to lose and started sending me bad foods and basically belittling everything I was doing ... They are still trying it on now but I've become immune to them

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:37:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

their fears

ruddet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:37:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Christianity. Hell is not something to teach kids.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:38:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't cut yourself on that edge

ruddet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:45:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thats edgy nowadays? I'm out of touch.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:57:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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ruddet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Christianity. Holy crap what a pile of steaming horse shit, that took some unlearnin', woooooo weeeeee partner!

I'll run my next answer by you, since you have time to read thousands of entries. You sound like a real fun person.

Tenoshoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

hahah you take this too seriously

yupynut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:37:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

turning off light switches. they spent months/years ordering me to backtrack myself and turn off light switches. we were poor, they were right.

but even today every now and then i leave a public bathroom with flipping off the light switch as a reflex and i hear ppl screaming.

Wickerman86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:38:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I always used to get well done steak at restaurants because that was how my mum would get hers, basically cremated!

treacherous_fool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:38:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

2+2=5

Assholes. Set me back 2 grades. I'll never forgive them.

emmawillmott ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:38:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They taught me that reading books was boring LOL

QuantumBoy365 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:39:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I grew up with boiling hot milk on my cereal as a kid. Everything always tasted soggy so I went off cereal for ages until university where my flatmates showed me I could eat cereal with cold milk. Man that was a big day for me.

They also introduced me to bacon which I had never tasted in my 18 years of life without true meaning.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:39:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

in the process of not unlearning much of what I was taught but learning over and forgetting much of what I was taught.

Shockernator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:39:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

HaansJob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:39:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To the guy who made the post about /r/raisedbynarcissists thank you...so much that is all

ritacommisso ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:39:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's okay to put your career goals aside and not chase after what you really want...

Long story short when I lived at home with my parents I was working a job I completely hated but they always "encouraged" me to stay there bc it was close to home, and a great industry for women to work in! BULLSHIT!! My parents (mom especially) is a compulsive worrier and never wanted me to do anything for work that she didn't do...ie:drive on a highway, drive more than 10 mins...

Finally after I got married and moved out (and lost my job) I landed my dream job and had to commute for it...I know they were not at all pleased but that's what it took for me to finally feel like I had a big girl job...it made me grow up and gain valuable experience in the field I was educated in. My husband was super supportive and I just know I couldn't have accomplished this living at home with them. It really upsets me to think that had I had encouragement like that at home I could have done so much more for myself earlier!

They were also really big on "you're not done eating until your plate is clean" ...

potanna ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:40:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents told me that doing literally anything they didn't approve of would give me scurvy. Not a visit from the boogeyman, not coal for Christmas, fucking scurvy.

Oddly enough this did keep me in line, even though I was a VERY dumb kid until age 10

The-White-Dot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:40:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

bodaciousboar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:42:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God is real

jemtag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:42:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When i was about 6 my mom told me not to open umbrellas in the house cause if i did the paint on the walls would melt. I think she was trying to in force her superstitious views.

QE-Infinity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:42:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion, not questioning authority.

dudebro5150 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:42:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My uncle used to greet my cousins and I by saying "Hey ugly." Because he thought it was funny. I'm pretty sure it had some sort of lasting subconscious effect on our self esteem as we are now all in our mid twenties and none of us have had more than one girlfriend.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:42:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother was one of those mothers that try to push their children to be better. I had to learn that it's okay to come in second place sometimes and that no getting an achievement doesn't devoid things of their fun.

tplee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:42:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That expiration dates don't matter. What. The. Fuck Mommmmmmm

DAVasquez- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:42:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Outside it's too dangerous. Stay home.

lmgbylmg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:42:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Let's see, my parents have always been bible thumpers and hate anything that disagrees with it so they were homophobic and transphobic. My dad somehow convinced me at a young age to be this anti-gay little bully and I once threatened to beat up the gay kid (this was 5th grade, and I remember laughing with my dad over a Cold Case episode where a man went and killed a bunch of gay men. When I came out as gay I was, for the most part, still homophobic and religious. As the years went by I went from religious, crude and downright annoying to more open minded, agnostic and creative. I also questioned my parents logic and reasoning more and started defying their more stupid rules. A few more side effects to coming out were that I unlearned the racism I was told is "totally ok", I abandoned my family tradition of joining the military and going into a dead-end blue collar job, to peruse graphic design, photography and computer programming. I ALSO started questioning the sexist remarks my uncles and dad would make, and so much more SJW stuff. Unfortunately, my siblings still remain in their control so I'm, metaphorically, all alone in this family.

vulcanfury12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:43:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That good steak is supposed to be pink/slightly pink on the inside. Not grey, and if it's brown, it should only be like that on the outside.

alberthere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:43:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Overcooking steaks until they're well done

seizure_sa1ad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:45:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pink = food poisoning. Moist = food poisoning. Turn that thing into a meat biscuit!

RationalLies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:43:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What did your parents teach you that you had to unlearn?

How not to leave your kids at Disneyland in a stroller with a bag of dog food and sign around the neck that reads "Free Baby".

John_Top ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:43:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

All lives matter.

captain-vye ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:43:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm trying to teach myself that it's okay to ask for help. I went through a lot of physical and sexual abuse as a small child then moved in with my dad and his wife and had years of emotional abuse. I think the emotional abuse has been the most damaging.

I have pretty severe mental health problems. It's okay to ask for help, and there's nothing wrong with getting emotional. If I'm struggling it doesn't mean I'm lazy or a bad person, I've been through enough that I should be proud of how well I'm doing these days even with my bad times.

I need to teach myself to really believe this. It's a work in progress.

TIAT323 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:44:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not to always 'keep the peace' no matter how much someone upset you.

Not to bury your head in the sand and never deal with any emotional problems, ever.

Don't do anything that might make your life better or easier, just stick with what you know.

My Mum is a very anxious person and my Dad is a chronic people pleaser. No way in hell I'm passing that shit to my kids.

Oblikx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:44:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To base my value of other people on what they can do for you later. Had to learn the hard way, to love people for everything they are, not what you can get from them.

Ryuuten ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:45:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to eat food & brush my teeth ...

There was never any portion control in my house growing up, so I became a typical fat kid. Also, no enforcement/encouraging to brush my damn teeth either, so I grew up to have godawful teeth that embarrassed the hell out of me as an adult.

So, I had to learn how to adult and actually take care of myself if I wanted to live to see my 30s and beyond. Parents really need to teach this stuff properly...

wish_in_one_hand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:45:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My husband had to teach me that if you had a pain that wouldn't go away, or something a bit off happening with your body, that it's ok to go to the doctor. Sometimes you SHOULD go to the doctor.

meadstriss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:45:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Still learning these. But that I don't HAVE to eat everything on my plate. It's fine to leave food if I'm feeling full. And that it's OK to perhaps have one beer or two maybe one a fortnight. Not 4-5 every day or in every social situation.

AltheaFarseer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:46:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to draw a pound sign (ยฃ). Not that my mum's way was wrong or anything, but she showed me how to do it her way about a week before my teacher showed us the "proper" way to do it. I told the teacher I'd been shown a different way, and she said something to the effect of "I don't care, this is how we're doing it in this class".

ShaunImSorry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:46:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That taking risks is a bad idea and one should always have a fixed salary and 'good' income source

Gallant12587 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:46:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I grew up in a VERY strict Catholic family, we had to go to mass every morning and every Friday night, pay the rosary three times a day, etc. We were also homeschooled and were only allowed to socialize with other homeschoolers, so we had very little exposure to the outside world. We never took a health class because "oooo, sex ed makes everyone have sex". My mother taught all of us that it was possible, even probable, that you could get pregnant making out in a hot tub as well as dry humping. When I asked her how she new this she said, "your grandmother got pregnant with her first child before she married Pop, and all they did was sit in a hot tub together!". I took Mone until just recently to realize this was an elaborate lie from my grandmother to cover her premarital sex and pregnancy. It spanned generations and my mom and siblings still believe it.

silverhasagi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:46:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That all relationships in life are a 0-sum game... Yeah that's exactly as bad as it sounds

Polydemic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:46:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My father told me that the human eye can only see 24fps.

slimebeef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:47:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the Mormon church was true.

Chaosfreak610 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:47:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel all of these

ForgettableUsername ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:47:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"You'll want to have get married and have kids when you're older."

Calius1337 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:02:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So, you didn't have get married then, I assume? ;-)

ForgettableUsername ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I've never gotten married, no.

Mungo741 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:47:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Having bread with every meal, going to sleep with wet hair will give you brain inflammation, getting rained on even a little bit will likely give you brain inflammation unless you quickly change your clothes and shower, not blow drying your hair will give you brain inflammation, walking barefoot gives you prostate problems. All classic Serbian things, my parents are the best but really believe a load of wacky wives tales. My mum still thinks protein powder is worse than beer and cigarettes and will often ask if she can throw it away since we have "real food".

labyrinthiner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:48:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They indirectly (though sometimes directly) taught me that mental illness is shameful and should not be openly discussed. Logically I know that this is not the correct way of thinking about it, but as someone who has endured a lifetime of struggles in this regard, it's still something I have to work on convincing myself.

Fancy_Pantsu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:48:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I moved out I had to relearn the concept of "5 minutes". Up until then "5 minutes" really meant something closer to 10 or 15 minutes. "Dinner ready in 5 minutes, wash your hands!" or "We're leaving in 5 minutes!".

My friends kept getting annoyed with me when I was always 5-10 minutes late so I had to relearn.

CravingSunshine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:48:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Never talk about things that are family business with other people."

Long story short my family was a big part of the issues I had growing up. I was told never to talk about them to anyone or to 'air our dirty laundry' but the truth is if I hadn't I would've been far worse off. It was a tremendous amount of stress and they only said it because they knew that our family was fucked up. The joy of having two N parents.

Rough_Diamonds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:49:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I don't have to eat everything on my plate just because there are children starving in Ethiopia.

redditappzzz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:50:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Itt: mutants

__crackers__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:50:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, "taught" in the Pavlovian sense.

As a kid, my dad would shout at me if I were on the phone for more than a few minutes. My bowels apparently internalised this, and I was well into my twenties before I could hold a phone conversation for more than five minutes without having to hang up to go take a shit.

LeWaltin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:51:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Security. My parents always taught me to choose the safe path instead of the more rewarding but risky one.

I had to unlearn that, then learn to take risks and now my parents have learnt it is for the best. They now take risks themselves, and they're happier than ever :)

oliveinthishouse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:51:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That debt is inevitable so you just have to get on with it, get as many loans and credit cards as possible and avoid collectors by ignoring their visits/calls/letters.

I was lucky that I took this advice with a veeeery generous pinch of salt. Defaulted once on a ยฃ100 credit card debt, lasted 6 years on my file... Made sure I went debt free after that and have just been accepted for a mortgage to own my own house.

Meanwhile my parents have now moved in with my maternal grandmother to escape their debt collectors and avoid homelessness. They left behind ยฃthousands in unpaid water/gas/electricity bills and a house full of junk that me and my sisters helped clear out for the new family moving in.

I love them dearly but they still think they're right and don't understand why I avoid borrowing like the plague..

exafighter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:52:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That Sinterklaas / Santa Claus did not exist.

Actually, that was something I could take, but the EASTER BUNNY? HE IS NOT REAL?

RexUmbra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:52:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the life I've been lead to live (up to age 17) was the right one to live. I.e. sitting on the couch all day and just yelling at everyone. Wish it hadn't taken me so long to not trust my mom's parenting lead.

xwhit3sniperx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:52:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being filthy fucking slobs.

thisisfor_fun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:53:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That smacking is rude and I should chew with my mouth closed. Also, no slurping drinks. Apparently, many Asian communities think the more noise made while eating indicates to the cook that the food tastes good. Or, 50% of the people I work with have terrible table manners.

motherofamouse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:53:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Anxiety

chicoquadcore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:55:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Writing. My mom is left handed and I am right handed so I have been told I write my letters in strange ways.

Digitigrade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:55:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fear of:
-spiders
-foreign people/people with skin colour not matching mine
-eating fish
-eating mushrooms (still working on this)

And it took me ~20 years to realize that cooked vegetables are actually delicious. You're just not supposed to boil them into goo.

C4tcrus4d3r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:55:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus

ChaoticGoodCop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:56:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Probably too late here, but I've spent a lot of time trying to remove from my head the notion that the goal of an argument is to "win." I got that from my mom.

The real goal of any discussion between opposing viewpoints should be to grow one's self intellectually. As difficult as it was for my ego, I began to just admit when I discovered that I was wrong. When I was wrong and knew I had been, I apologized and meant it (when the situation called for it). I did other mental exercises to grow myself and make myself more intellectually honest.

5hiner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:56:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When the Icecream man played its jingle, it meant that they wasn't out of Ice Cream

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:57:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That rain will cover a small area at a time before moving on. So when it rains in my garden, about 10 mins later it will rain in my next door neighbours garden.

That the only reason we have weather forecasts to tell us what the weather will be in the future is because Angels will come down to tell everyone what it will be.

That nobody wears trousers in their hips, but instead around their waist and since I'm a big lad, this means my trousers will keep falling down.

The christian bible. Let me clarify, it is fine to believe whatever you want but there are some really fucked up things in the bible like the acceptance of slavery, and so I thought this was ok. Which it isn't, like at all.

There are just too many...

questionmark693 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:57:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to be a good mormon

PM_ME_UR_SNAIL_TRAIL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:57:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

conditional love

I tell my boys all the time I love them unconditionally and then explain what that means.

smarshall561 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:58:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

pprincessvixenn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:58:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mum convinced me that I had to look and act a certain way to be accepted by people and that no one was friends with me because I'm a "horrible person who can't keep friends". It wasn't until 4 years ago when I met my current partner that that attitude was the reason I was miserable and I just needed to be happy within myself and not just making her happy.

donteatmynoodles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:58:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

religion

mrshll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:58:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That god is real.

silvanosrosvalin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:58:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That sorry isn't too late... a sincere apology is a super brave thing to do, especially as a kid; instead of just ignoring or running away from it.

WittyFox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:58:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Put everyone else's needs above my own.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:58:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

missionary position

Costell0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:58:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Drugs are bad for u son! :D

calam63 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:59:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No such fish as rincod - It's Lin-Cod

skaterjuice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:59:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My birth date.

skaterjuice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:08:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As in I was told I was born in 82 and I was actually a year older. I don't know why it was so hard to do, but It took me a while to stop getting confused.

akjoltoy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:01:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

When I was a little kid, my dad taught me that functions need to be continuous to be differentiable. Fine. But my mom told me this was a bijection. Sigh.

clarret ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:18:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

im so sorry

Gelfling1994 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:01:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pronouncing places with 'mouth' in the name incorrectly. My parents would always say PlyMOUTH or WeyMOUTH. I'm 22 and people take the piss because I don't pronounce it like WeyMUTH. I can't unlearn this.

Rapidshotz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:02:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Always forgive people. even though it's right, it does not apply to everyone. Some people make the same mistake and do it over and over again to use the best out of you. And that's the hard part about life.

Zer0megAlpha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:02:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Boiled eggs. My parents would always over boil the eggs so they had this ugly center and sulfur taste. I hated eggs and even gagged when seeing or smelling them for so long until I looked up the recipe online. Apparently both my parents had grown up eating over boiled eggs.

Never had I fallen in love for a food that I hated that intensely. I now eat egg salad sandwiches religiously. Mustard makes it heaven.

sn_nh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:03:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When my mum first taught me how to say the alphabet, she said 'R' in two-ish syllables because of her accent. I had to unlearn that because I had an r in my name and spelt my name out loud all the time. I also had to unlearn how she taught me to pronounce most English words because of the accent.

notdannytrejo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:04:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom had me convinced that cats were disgusting and carried ring worms for Years. They still creep me out a little even though I know that was just my moms excuse to not get a cat.

ZeldaLover08 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:04:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That God is real.

Photogroxii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:04:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad made me believe that success was a result of luck. Anyone who was doing well for themselves was just lucky. Now I know that hard work often pays off. I know people that went from homelessness to success because of hard work and perseverance, not luck.

killer3james ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:04:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bad driving habits.

Just1ntransit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:04:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

MrJammin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:04:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not really parents but step dad. Racist judgements and ignorant views.

Austypoops ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:06:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Actually if you know how to cook it salt and pepper is just as good at any other seasoning.

Sillylikeagoose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:06:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom taught me that I couldn't eat chocolate or drink milk after eating seafood or pork. She had learned that from her mom. Growing up, I always wondered why Red Lobster would give us chocolate cakes on our birthdays if it, according to her, would give us the worst stomach aches.

Also she wouldn't want me to shower within 30 minutes of eating. Might get cramps, you know.

Demonicated ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:06:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Feelings

axior ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:07:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism.

ColeWeaver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:07:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

freeagentk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:08:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Diet is a huge issue in my house hold. Essentially ate 3 cups of rice with half a cup of onions as a vegetable? + a lot of meat. Lost 30 pounds simply by eating more vegetables.

NahWey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:08:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

beepee1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:08:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being too nice. It never got me anywhere in world full of mean abusive kids :D

chickpeaonchickpea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:08:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandad was Italian with a strong accent so my mum didn't properly learn the pronunciation correctly for a lot of words. For example, I was well into my teens pronouncing vanilla as valinna, which is how she still pronounces it. I don't think that's anyway how it's pronounced in Italian but we can't think why she says so many words incorrectly.

JustinTimeTho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:08:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Whenever an ice cream truck drove by, my mom told me it was a "music truck" so that I wouldn't ask to go buy ice cream.

SilentW0rld ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:09:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pulling your pants to the floor when you pee.

pashbrown ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:09:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That something is only worth trying if I'm 100% sure I'll succeed. My dad is super critical of everyone and everything that I've become afraid of trying to do anything. e.g. his review of pretty much any performer: 'eeeh they're no Freddie Mercury'

WFS12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:09:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm high as chat, founts me.

Awsaim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:09:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom told me that credit card companies LIKE when you have a balance, and to only pay the minimum payment at the time. When in actuality it's better to pay it off in full ASAP. They make their money from merchant fees, not your interest.

VoliGunner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:10:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have a younger brother, so growing up we were always fighting and antagonizing each other. After growing up with that, and both of us having had a temper, if I get tickled by somebody or annoyed and things escalate to where I'm hurt, I'm compelled to hurt back, hard and fast. It feels like a tiny version of that red haze people see when they go on a murderous rampage. It's very scary and obviously a negative reaction, so I'm always trying to get better at chilling out when stuff like that happens.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:10:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly, more what did I have to teach myself/am still learning.... how to be responsible with electronic device use/time management and eating junk food.

illepic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:10:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Finishing everything on my plate.

Biscuit-Barrel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:10:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My Dad told me that if you returned a book late to the library that "The Special Book Police" would get you.

The one time we were late with a book he said he'd tell the librarian it was his fault, but instead pointed at me and said "its all his fault he did it"

Bricked my self. Thought a SWAT team was going to rappel through the glass ceiling....

He laughed....

Itanics ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:21:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not related to OP but dads being dicks..

My dad got jury duty and fought it for 9 months! He and I have the same name so it wasn't until they sent an arrest warrant with my SS#on it that he realized it wasn't even for him. He was quite pleased with giving it to me, and he laughed a lot..

moonlite11942 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:10:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They kinda got me scared of people. Told me to mind my business going into middle school so that I wouldn't meet the wrong people and get jumped. It created issues for me and self confidence and made me into a kind of hermit growing up.

I lived with this up until graduating high school. Lost most of my weight since then. I'm still learning to socialize again and make friends like when I was little.

kingmatt67 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:11:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Catholicism

Prahasaurus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:11:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity.

JohnQAnon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:11:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That guns are bad and dangerous. Should never use one, because I might go on a shooting spree or shot myself in the foot.

Now I'm out of college and at my first job, and instead of buying a car that isn't complete shit, I'm working on getting a Chiappa Rhino. 60DS. So yeah, raising a anti-gun son in Texas didn't exactly work out

scw55 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:12:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pessimistic outlook. It's hard because I still live at home, exposed to her moaning.

AndrewZabar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:12:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That there was a god.

NickelAntonius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:12:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Never interrupt anyone, ever, for any reason."

I was informed that this was not on par with a Commandment while at bible study one night when I was 10; listening to the teacher read from her script, my nose started bleeding for no reason. Now, a normal person would either say "I have nosebleed, I need to go to the bathroom" or just get up and go. But, I wasn't allowed to interrupt an adult who was speaking, and the teacher had her face buried in her book reading the lesson line by line, and didn't notice me tilting my head back and pinching my nose. No one else in the class seemed to notice, either, and no one said anything. Finally the teacher stopped talking and looked up to see blood all over my chin and down my shirt, and starts screaming. Grabs me and runs me to the bathroom yelling at me "Why didn't you say anything???" and I'm like "You wouldn't be quiet so I could". The pastor and the teacher had a little meeting with my mom when she came to pick me up, and she just kept apologizing for me "interrupting" the class, and the pastor's like "No, the problem is that he DIDN'T interrupt the class..."

We stopped going to that church soon after that. Not because of that; we stopped because it was a Baptist church and the pastor found out my family was Catholic, and just went to the Baptist church for the weeknight kids activities, because to my mom that was free babysitting in a "positive environment". When the pastor found out we also went to the "big church" down the street, he got LIVID, since he had baptized and "saved" both myself and my sister. He told my mom to "choose your faith" and we stuck to the Catholic church only after that.

unforgivablecursive ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:12:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

He taught me a false mnemonic that "desert has two S's because of all the snakes."

Protip: Desert only has one S because the other one dried up and blew away.

butkaf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:13:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Athletes are dumb, the only muscle you need is your brain"

PigletCNC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:14:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't snitch.

jordyix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:14:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That asking for things for free at a garage sale is wrong.

FreakyFergg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:14:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eat until you're full.

A good meal has two servings of carbs.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:15:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This question is intriguing to say the least. That whole "don't go swimming for one hour after a meal" BS for one. Also reading in dim light makes your eye sight get worse. Let's see...hmmm. Oh, masturbating; that one--yeah--nope; it's actually GOOD for you, male or female. And finally, you'll go to HELL if you don't believe in <fill in a religion> BS.

Frapplo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:15:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In my house, I was not allowed to be anything but happy for more than a few minutes. Sad? Angry? Hurt? Sick? Get over it.

I'm still incapable of expressing any of those emotions in a healthy way.

EastEuroGirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:15:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Humility. Not to ask for things.

mcs97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:16:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That tomatos give you more blood

Magnificentproduce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:16:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to set the table. My mum is left handed and she taught me to set it for left handed people.

jamieandhisego ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:22:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm left-handed. You set the table the exact same way. She was just doing it wrong.

icebergmama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:16:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Homophobia

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:17:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mostly the criticism

c5allaxy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:18:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God.

jinx_73 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:18:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it was terrible if anyone was better than you, and that you were scum if you were not the best in your class. I had to learn that it was fine if people were better than me in some things, and that it does not make me worthless. I have my own strengths and weaknesses, I do not need to compare myself against every other person constantly and then only look at the areas where they outperformed me.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:18:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If people are making fun of you, just ignore them - they'll get bored and go away.

hamadkhan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:19:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parent said stop watching porn

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:19:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Alright I'm a bit late to the party, but this is still going on:

You're the cause of all of the problems and you should just get out.

Hitting your kids will make them good. (I know from first hand experience of being the child, it doesn't. It makes you depressed in most cases.)

You're just the child and you don't know shit until you hit the magical age of 18 (this will always confuse me)

Your stepfather hits your little brother with a spoon because he deserves it, not because your stepfather is an alchoholic piece of shit.

It doesn't concern you how we raise our children.

Once my mother told me to get out, so I did. I planned to go report my stepfather to the police and she caught me a block away and cried and shit and went back to calling me the problem and telling me to get out after about a day.

Moby_Duck123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:19:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

10000th comment

Irfan_sagheer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:20:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nothing. My parents lives serve as a perfect example for me. They had their flaws like everyone else but I wouldn't change a thing. Not a single thing. Very proud of my family

boar-b-que ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:34:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lucky, lucky person! Cherish your loving family!

I very much love my wife's family. They've been nothing but supportive of me and her. However, I've chosen not to have children in order to put a firm stop to the multiple cycles of abuse that were present in my own family's lives. With as many comments as this thread has, I'm certain that all the things I've had to 'learn the reality' have been mentioned. I still think it's worth pointing out those shining examples of good families who love each other and do so much good that the few wrongs can easily be forgotten.

ElevatorSwag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:20:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad taught me that if I eat ramen and take a multivitamin I won't die. That was an easy one to break away from.

sharklops ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:20:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not everything has to be someone's fault

ElevatorSwag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:21:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But then whose fault is it?

sharklops ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:32:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I should have said, just because something doesn't go perfectly, someone doesn't have to be blamed and made to pay

ElevatorSwag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:44:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bad joke aside. I completely agree with this statement. I know someone who is always looking for who to blame when something doesn't go as planned and it gets really frustrating to deal with.

Regular_Slinky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:20:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That if you give people who work in customer service enough shit you get what you want.

Teddybear43 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:20:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was always thirsty before lunch/dinner, but my parents dd not allow me to drink anything because it would be unhealthy. My father event old me once when I was very young, that only people with diabetes drink so much and maybe I am sick. Until today (43 years now) I don't drink enough and confuse thirst often with hunger. It's quite bad :(

TonyMatter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:21:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

'Never write love-letters to girls, they'll just take advantage of you".

GreenGlassDrgn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:21:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Study hard, or else you'll end up at McDs.
All kids are whiney brats who want attention and don't deserve it, myself included.
Nobody else is really worth your invested time.
Jobs are horrible, make you miserable, and are totally not worth it at all.
Everyone is insane and out to get you for all you're worth.
We need to control everything around us or else we're doomed.

Thats how you make a kid lonely, bored, prone to anxiety attacks and trust issues.

huntard_forthewin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:21:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The old "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all" from my dad's side.

This really irritated me because growing up he would ask my opinion or what I thought of a new rule in the house. When I told him I didn't agree with something for certain reasons he'd get offended. And then he'd get defensive and make petty threats until I just developed a 'fuck it' attitude and stopped talking to him about those issues all together.

Tudpool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:22:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the name of this type of sweets we got in france were according to my parents "buttplugs" They told this to a 7 year old child so of course I believed them... Feckers were running the longest joke on me for many years :/

CrackerSentry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:22:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom buys me xxl large clothes when I'm able to fit in large perfectly fine,

TukisOfFire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:22:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I came from a house with either screaming or the silent treatment. It's taken years of therapy to learn adult ways to deal with my emotions.

guntbutter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:22:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That punishing someone for telling the truth because they did something they shouldn't have, and still punishing them creates mistrust.

Let-Down ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:23:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The past participle of "Jump" is "Jamp".

That imagine my shock at 14 when at school I tried correcting someone saying "jumped".

nicros ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:23:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom is dominican so of course she had to teach me that opening the refrigerator after ironing will paralyze your face.

Smaug_the_Tremendous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:23:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

betam4x ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:24:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not my parents, my family in general. Dad was in a car accident that disabled him (brain damaged, etc.) at a young age. Mom met a few guys at a bar. The last guy she brought home hated kids and hated life. He was physically and mentally/psychologically abusive. He drove a wedge between everyone in the household and cause anger management issues in all of us. Family still has major issues to this day, despite him being out of the picture for years. He turned us all against each other and nobody except me ever even bothered (or will) get counselling. We are all in our 30s-40s. I've pushed for change but alas...

grayso94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:24:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To throw blame and pass it off as "I was just saying". It's hard to unlearn the automatic feeling that everything is my fault.

Ceejae ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:24:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

These topics are always such an excuse for people to blame all their faults on their parents.

Just remember that you have the power of hindsight when looking at what they could possibly have done better. It isn't fair to expect that your parents were omniscient back then. They were learning how to parent at the same time as you were learning how to live.

br0wnb0y ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:25:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that they know best... lol

lazykoala ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:25:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I used to be dyslexic when I was in really young. I used to write S, D and N backwards when I first learned how to write.

crashnoid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:26:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Born as a lefty, forced to fool the right.

Ambidextrous, though my brain seems to have a favourite.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:27:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Technically I still have to unlearn it, but that I'm not a "handsome young man", I'm not gonna start rating myself and I wouldn't call myself ugly, but I'm simply average at best and my own standards in women are deeply affected by this bullshit

ofay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:28:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being so defensive. It took me awhile to realize that I was extremely sensitive when people gave me constructive criticism. Now it is so obviously I adopted this from my parents. The second you say anything you are "attacking" them.

cookie_in_the_jar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:28:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I learned from my mom that exercise is purely for losing weight. No joy from it is a reason at all to move my ass. Hated exercise all my life

AtomsInSnow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:29:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

My parents put in my head that it's me against the world, don't trust anyone, everyone is constantly scheming against you, coincidences don't exist and everything is a scam - it's not intentional brainwashing or anything it's just they are extremely pessimistic, they seem paranoid about everything.

If my boss messes up my hours and accidentally pays me 50c less than usual it's not just an honest mistake, it's him trying to save money, along with a big speech about how you can't trust people.

If my dad knew how to use the internet he would be obsessed with conspiracy theories.

If you lived your life according to how my parents see the world you would be scared to leave the house.

Demmitri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:29:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I had to finish ALL the food on my plate.

Beingabummer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:30:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you share your feelings with someone, they'll use it against you at some point down the line. So I keep that shit on lock, yo.

cleverleather ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:30:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That men are liars and cheaters and can't be trusted. Still struggling to unlearn that.

Phoenixfire5306 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:30:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well good old mom was an expert in manipulation, lying, thievery, distrust in government authorities.

Reach_Reclaimer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:30:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thinking that I was clever. No mum/dad I'm not that clever I just understood primary/high school things much faster than the other people in my classes. Until I got to GCSE's this wasn't a problem as then I had to learn how to... Learn.

sonofalando ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:30:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents always only lived in nice neighborhoods, were very focused on being in the perfect upper middle class area. I didn't realize that I was upper middle class until I graduated and my dad passed away then I was left on my own and my mom didn't help with a dime even though she was relatively well off. She was one of the last generation of teachers who actually made a really good salary and my step dad was an IT manager at a big company. Anyhow, I struggled through my 20s for 10 years. Lived in shitty room mate situations, lived in bad areas, and a super shitty apartment. I finally got my degree at 26 and got my first good paying job. Seattle is super expensive so I moved out to the Tacoma area which is considered the "ghetto"city compared to Seattle. I've lived in a lot of "bad" areas in my 20s and I just decided to settle in this "bad" area because I can't afford what my parents could when buying my first house. Honestly, it's not as bad as people think. I now realize that most of the negative opinions that people generate about a place, or what's considered "safe" is really just ignorance. I've realized you're really not safe anywhere unless you live way out in the boonies where there's few houses between you and civilization. Whether you get robbed, burglarized, or have a Violent crime happen to you it doesn't matter where you live. It can happen anywhere.

GoatTooth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:31:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the earth is 6'000 years old.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:31:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being Christian... Unteached myself becomming atheist. Tagalog as my native language - Now I try to speak more English by gradually replacing my voculary.

rocknrollnicole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:31:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Had to unlearn an underlying feeling that (from my mom) I'm responsible for other people's feelings, and (dad) that I shouldn't have to "win people over" or pine after people who aren't into me.

My life rules now mostly because I was able to work around those.

onlyinsyder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:31:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Proper financial management

My parents had good intentions I think, but gave really conservative advice.

Don't get a credit card. Don't finance a car. Etc etc. I think they didn't want me to have to deal with the issues they were having.

Better advice would have been to teach me how to properly use these tools, and not just avoid them all together.

muppethero80 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:31:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

buttking ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:32:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That all it takes to be successful is to work hard. Bullshit.

illradhab ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:33:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not to yell when angry, and freaking out isn't a viable path to the resolution of a disagreement.

only_a_little_mad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:33:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty much everything in life. My mum is/was highly abusive.

Zanxor0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:34:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cocaine

JayMcKalister ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:34:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To hide my flaws instead of embrace them

RabackOmama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:34:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's (usually) no reason to raise your voice.

legacy702 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:35:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to unteach myself how my mom taught me how to drive

brooklynkurtz99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:35:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Parents are dicks.

Dangiuz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:36:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Believing in God.

IAmAThing420YOLOSwag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:36:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"My son wears size 15 shoes..." (in 6th grade (with size 9-10 shoes)) I feel an intense, debilitating desire to be the "one and only." I'm not sure if I will ever feel "adequate"

Lubdupstillbeating ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:36:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't feel. Conform. You are shameful. Everything is fine. Appearances matter most. You are the problem; we are ok. Be quiet and suck it up. You don't deserve unconditional love. You're weak and too sensitive. This isn't how it is, it didn't happen, your perception of reality is wrong.

acf_shooter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:37:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you goto the bathroom with the door open

Ender_Von_Slayer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:37:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was in school, my mom would get extremely pissed off if I helped someone through something. I eventually became a sort of student counselor. I didnt tell her about it until very late into the school year. This was until I got a student of the month for that due to me helping a younger student with their abusive father and mother who just cried and watched. That was a tough one. She always wore turtle-necks, long sleeved sweaters, and jeans. So one day, the actual counselors and I are in our monthly meeting and I bring up the girl. They asked me why I thought she was being abused and being the avid watcher of Criminal Minds that I am, explained how she was a little too shy, put her head down whenever she got less than 100% on anything, and that she was more of a loner than some of the people on here. Turns out I was right when her counselor asked her to roll up her sleave, she hesitated and slowly pulled it up to reveal a multi-colored mess of healing skin. When the counselor saw it, their eyes widened and a sense of disbelief came with it only to be sent away by my constant banter. "I told you so!" I yelled from my seat. When my mom heard of this, she didnt look on the brighter side, she instead worried way to much about my safety and believed that if the father figured out that I revealed his secret, that he would send gabg members from prison and kill me. Yeah... fun right? She didnt care that I helped someone, just that because I did, I was going to get hurt. I listened for about 5 years to her, with the occasional, "You forgot your lunch? Here have some of mine" which ended up with me having to listen to the same lectur over and over again

TL;DR: Mom didnt want me to help people in danger of me getting hurt, did it anyway just to be a good person.

P.S, My friends now see me as a sort of outlet, they come to me with a problem or show signs of one, I usually figure them out and help.

P.P.S, I have like 6 friends. That's it, and they are all loners too

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:39:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That white people are evil.

Blitztide ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:39:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Broccoli is not called trees

Compactsun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:39:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That as long as things look good on the outside that the things on the inside don't matter. It's actually the other way around in my book but if we ever had a problem we were to pretend it never happened and just move on because 'what does dwelling on it do for you?' I don't hold it against my mother though, she's a single mum who raised three kids and was basically ostracised from both sides of the family (hers and dads) except for her mum, dad and aunt because my dad committed suicide.

Vicinity613 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:40:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

tuck190 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:40:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to voice my opinion and actually have a voice in arguments.

Any arguments when I was a kid would be instantly shut down and any opinions I had with the matter were dismissed. I still have problems with that shit.

abovewater19 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:40:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My wife's parents taught her that red meat would kill her. So basically, burn your steak, see red YOU'LL DIE!

asimpervez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:40:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think my parents had a really good system for this. When each ... I've altered the rule to: you are done eating once you finish your vegetables.

dmanb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:41:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

actually nothing. my parents are amazing.

dr3adlock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:07:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents weren't amazing but they managed to raise we without fucking me up.

dusmeyedin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:42:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dad: after a meal with friends, it's part of your honor to argue and fight over who gets to pay the bill. If you lose the fight, you lose face. (He later then scolded me for being profligate with money.)

Mom: the guy in a relationship should just let the woman in a relationship call the shots and do as she pleases. It'll work out, because she will temper her demands to a reasonable level that works for both parties. (It took me two really bad girlfriends to learn the foolishness of this.)

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:42:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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bewareoftheaussie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:53:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Neither was my mother. On my second lesson with her I spun out going around a corner and nearly wrecked our car.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:42:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Watch out for white people

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:42:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents never taught me the importance of fitness. They're both overweight and my father is diabetic, and neither of them ever encouraged me to get exercise. Growing up, I was a very nerdy kid...and I grew up with a bad attitude about fitness. I basically thought it was something that dumb jocks did because they didn't have anything better to do with their lives. I don't think I ever voluntarily set foot in a gym until I was about 24 or 25.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:43:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that i'm weak

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:44:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

OddBall8778 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:44:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to learn to love myself. My mom constantly knit picked me until I moved out at 17. She didn't like my jeans and T-shirts style as a teenage girl and hated that I wore a pony tail everyday. Even after I moved out if I knew she was coming to visit I would panic and find something girly to put on or go out and buy it just to not hear her bitch... I have finally managed to just be me and own it. It has seriously saved my life and made me such a happier person.

Mespegg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:44:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad (although he fiercely denies it now) told me and my brother that sleeping in socks gave you cancer.

nicknacho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:44:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To always finish your plate. Into my adult life I have struggled with over-eating because I'm not done when I'm full, I'm done when my plate is clean. This is especially bad at American restaurants where the portions can be huge.

TheGoodOneToKeep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:45:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mother is the anti-vaxxer; anti-doctor; naturalist; you can do anything you set your mind to, type person. A lot of this logic is stuck in my head, slowly getting it out.

Years of being snapped out for not being a hopeless optimist about everything. Telling me how smart I am while i'm failing highschool, with her encouraging me to cheat because I can "just start your own business". Then complains because I refuse to go to collage. Why would I get into a massive debt when I literally don't have the skills to pass?

Despite her believing she "knew" the key to health was proper eating: It was drilled into me that the best thing to eat was beans & rice & veggies. I've been underweight and unable to be active for most of my life. Didn't change until I was mid 20's and gained 40 pounds. Friends suddenly telling me how much better I looked. Finally being able to move without feeling like i'm fainting because GASP! I ate more than 1.5k calories in a day(about 800 & seeing 'stars' when I realized how dumb I was being). I no longer constantly feel shaky and hands always cold.

Bought my own (old cheap)house, once it's fixed up I can move in and fully get away from her.

mania_lol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:45:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents are super racist, super conservative, and just not like me at all. I can't even say who I'm voting for without getting looked down on. It's just not how i want to be perceived.

MyParentsThrowawayXX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:45:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

From treatment but not directly: That I am a bad person. That I cause trouble. That I and my possessions do not deserve respect. That my opinion doesn't count. That I should not try anything because I might fail.

Directly: That I am not academically gifted. That you do not need qualifications to succeed (while some people can obviously do very well without qualifications, I do not feel I am one of those people). That I should put up with an unchallenging minimum wage job where I am unhappy and unfulfilled because 'that's just the way life is'. That saying good things about myself is negative and 'un-modest'.

Rajje ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:46:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lots of profound confusions that came from simple missayings. For example, my mother once claimed that when you take the subway from the station where we lived, conveniently enough the destination of the train doesn't have to be considered as any train will do. For many years I wondered how this possibly could be. Altough all lines of a certain color passed our station, they went to three different branches later on. Surely, you'd have to choose the right train depending on what branch your destination was on? Much later, I realised that she of course must have meant "when you take the subway to our station [back from one of the branches]". This might have been the first time I understood that parents' words, or anyone's words for that matter, aren't literal dogmas.

LowEndWibs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:46:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That if you don't get your hopes up, you'll never be disappointed. Left me at 31 not really thinking that life can be anything worthwhile.

yours_anonymously ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:47:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Girls who have premarital sex are characterless.

purplepippin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:48:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God, it's hard to think about, never mind admit. But the opportunity to just say it is too irresistible. Mine taught me through repeated example;

That it's okay to not finish what you started

That if you don't feel like doing something, fine, don't do it,

That saving money isn't as fun as spending it.

That everything will be just fine, provided you bury your head in the sand and don't face up to problems.

At nearly 35, I'm still unlearning all this. I have a family of my own now, I defer to my husband a lot on things I don't understand how to deal with because of my upbringing. His was very different, he's always been the grown-up.

GamerFan2012 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:50:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There is a god

jamie_jamie_jamie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:50:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That having a mental illness is bad and is something to be ashamed of and hide.

Still hard to come to terms with it around them sometimes.

Mia_la ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:51:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's ok to like a boy. I got screamed at and called a slut for kissing a boy when I was 14. Thanks, dad....

Irony is he wasn't involved in my life hardly at all unless he was mad about something.

Isaac_God ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:56:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's not at all your dads fault? It's the cruelty of other kids around you, I'm 15 and that still happens but it's got nothing to do with upbringing at sll

Mia_la ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:58:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad called me that. So yeah, kinda his fault.

TheNightisYoung ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:51:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That everyone has an agenda, and that if they do something that hurts or inconveniences you it must be because of ulterior motives. The reality is, sometimes people really are just incompetent or inattentive, or don't realise that what they're doing is affecting you because you didn't communicate that. It's a tricky one to navigate because I've also had experiences of being abused and manipulated by people for their own benefit. But assuming that everyone will do that is no way to live.

TinyPupilz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:52:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well fuck don't even get me started.

BenW95 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:52:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wouldn't say they taught me this, but there's definitely an "our countrymen first" mentality that I oppose, or rather didn't follow.

The people born in my country aren't necessarily better than someone from another country, we've all got shit people, and we've all got good people, so I think the good people should come first, not the people from "my country".

jeneffy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:52:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That sex is only for married people.

sammmferrris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:53:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The LDS religion guidelines, while maintaining my personal spirituality.

twirstn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:53:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know it's probably a good thing that my mom and I do this but we both keep our indicators on in a turn lane. It used to bug me when I would watch other people do it but when she taught me how to drive I can't stop doing it.

Wanna_B_Spagetti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:54:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just about every negative stereotype about black people.
This made college difficult for the first year.

ToastedSoup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:54:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That being a failure and a disappointment is in my DNA because my dad was a autobody mechanic who failed highschool and got a GED in a Juvenile Detention Center.

:( I just want my dad back

dr3adlock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:02:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What did ur mum do?

ToastedSoup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:13:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What do you mean?

dr3adlock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well im guessing its your mum thats saying this to you, so what dose she do for a living?

ToastedSoup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, she's had multiple jobs working for the government.

dr3adlock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:31:08 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mum was a single parent as well she also has issues with having to support her family and often tried to remind me of my dads downfalls in a way of trying to prevent me going down the same path.....allot of hate can build up in these situations its hard for it not to spill over the rest of us.

smokinrobocop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:54:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being cheap. I still have a hard time but can finally afford most things that my brain will say; that's too expensive. Being frugal is good but sometimes it's better to let go and spend your money when it counts.

dmiz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:55:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought there was one way to cook steaks and burgers growing up: whatever is after well-done. So, I didn't like them until my mid 20s when my now-wife taught me they don't have to be like shoe leather.

momo43028 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:56:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Really not what I unlearned but they did Don't judge a book by it's cover

GrumpyKitten1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:57:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it is impolite to complain/ask for help. Suffered for years before complaining, turns out I have a chronic disease and should have been getting treated for it, now have long term issues which may have been avoided.

AskmeifIdoitEveryday ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:58:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to break an egg to make omelette

Thuseld ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:58:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad would always pronounce the word "misled" as my-zld". As if it were a regular past tense ending in ED. That was an embarrassing day at school when I read it wrong from the book.

myPetLesbian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:58:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents taught me that I'm a fucking idiot, that I deserve abuse, that I shouldn't be taken care of. I'm still trying to unlearn this.

Thuseld ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:58:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad would always pronounce the word "misled" as my-zld". As if it were a regular past tense ending in ED. That was an embarrassing day at school when I read it wrong from the book.

AlienNoodles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:58:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

TIL I've been tought pretty well by my parents...

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:59:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you should pretty much never add salt to food during cooking unless it's a baked good like bread or cakes.

Reasoning being that so much of today's food, especially meat, is so pumped full of salt that you usually don't have to add any, and people can always add salt at the table anyway.

My cooking was revolutionized when I learned about seasoning as you go.

aerospace91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:59:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

racism and bigotry

PurpleToaster1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:59:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother taught us the phrase "if you ask you don't get" because she was tired of us asking for stuff. It took me 12 years to figure out my mam was wrong, not everyone else and I ended up a shy lonely teenager possibly as a result of that sticking in my mind.

The_Thesaurus_Rex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:59:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

southern-German slang. No one in Northern Germany understood me.

marvelguy97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:00:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad taught me so many bad habits while learning to drive when he actually took me driving. (Hand over hand rather than threading the wheel, close to the centre of the road, when your supposed to keep as far left as possible away from the centre of the road which seems more logical because if you were to have to swerve to avoid an oncoming car hitting another car that's stationary would do less damage rather than the car coming at you theoretically right?)

I went with an instructor and he taught me a completely different way of driving as well as how to drive safely, as they do.

Isaac_God ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:00:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You never mentioned that.

ninifay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:00:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the only way to get a man to love you is to be thin.
You aren't pretty unless you're skinny.

I still struggle with this at 29.

gharbutts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:00:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents taught me to eat huge meals on big plates for every meal, and to clean the plate. It wasn't until I was 20 something and fat that I realized that three big meals a day is a bit much for pretty much anyone under 5'6".

fghrtghiiuyrrd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:01:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To never ask for help.

TheKocsis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:01:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That i shouldn't have any control over what my job is, just stick with the first place that hired me, whatever torture it is. Granted, the job-market was pretty bad in their time, but as an IT guy now, options are all over the place

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:02:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They taught me to never Disappoint with anything.Always work hard to get the Goal we wanted.so keep starting your carrier!

ArseholeryEnthusiast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:03:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Always clean your plate.

MootandiMutandis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:04:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism.

thatveganass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:04:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It is OK to eat animals.

An actually, short after I went vegan, my mum went vegetarian. So she also unlearned what her parents taught her, but from his son.

Quite cool imo.

calling_kyle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:04:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

praying before sleep

zipzapzooom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:05:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That Muslims are evil people.

Panigg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:05:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Talking to my parents. I always got a lecture out of it instead of just a "that's great."

vyrelis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:05:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad told me if I touched myself I'd vomit. Didn't wipe my front til I was probably 13

SirPlus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:06:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My father, an ex-soldier, would make me walk with my head up, chest out and shoulders back every day until I was in my teens, claiming it would improve my posture. After years of recurring back and spine problems, I eventually saw an osteopath who told me it was due to having been made to walk bolt upright all those years.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:07:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My single mom got me fucked up pumping me with fairy tales, damn I should've seen why she is single in the first place. If I respect people they will respect me back, I should be myself to be loved and I should act around women as they are a prize to die for. None of those shit matters, as long as I'm on top of my carreer and physic, respect and women came by themselves, I got away with so many asshole moves I would never imagine I would pull off as a fat, jobless 22 yo I was, back then everybody was indifferent by default.

smhboi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:07:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

violence is never the answer

rodney212 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:07:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad taught me that Glasgow is the capital of Scotland. I had arguments with my geography teacher about thar one.

KenMouraBerserk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:07:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that not all women like doggy style

Kinzuko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:08:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bigotry and selfishness.

MrSyaoranLi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:09:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Prejudice/predisposed hate towards a person simply on the choice of clothes they wear regardless of what pronouns they use. I had to unlearn so much prejudice from them.

captainoblovyays ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:09:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That male sexuality is inherently aggressive and destructive, and men are evil.

Took me only about a decade and quite some therapy to get over that particular funk.

One particularly useful insight was that my mother did not gain this twisted view after my father moved out and because of it, but that she had those ideas way before that. And that this might have been part of why they separated.

bagoonga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:10:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That drugs are bad.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:10:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion....

Stefnib ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:10:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Poor money management

Samjamric ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:11:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was about three, I remember innocently asking my Dad "Are boys better than girls?". He chuckled and jokingly replied "Yes. Yes they are". Being three, I didn't pick up on the sarcasm and then went the next 5 or so years believing it was some kind of proven fact.

mmvemshnup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:11:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

both my parents taught me that dealing with problems through violence is correct. I grew up fighting everyone and anyone, and only when i got my face smashed in one day i realised harming people/yourself is no way to deal with any sort of emotion.

myyyyy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:12:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Never trust a man! And all men are going to cheat on you eventually (All of my uncles had affairs). So I grew up hating every guy I saw even though some of them were actually nice people. Until I met my current SO.. I still have trust issue.

MITSBISHI ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:12:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do first, think second mentality. Shouting (my mum refused to wear ear-aids :( ). Only cry when seriously injured. Anger solves everything. Only make friends who are the same race. Don't date any 'outsiders'.

Graphite_Smear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:12:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to credit. I was always lectured how evil, and dangerous credit cards are. That they were to be avoided unless you want debt. Guess who doesn't have a good enough credit score for anything!

Note: I still got to manage a big ol' pile of debt from medical bills. Yeeeeah.

NIU_1087 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:26:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I get where you're coming from, but credit cards are dangerous if you're not responsible enough to use them correctly.

It sounds like my parents weren't as extreme as yours, but teaching kids about the dangers of abusing credit is a valuable life lesson. I didn't get one until i was out of college and had a decent job, but a lot of my friends in school were saddled with thousands in credit card debt from stupid stuff just because they were never taught the reprocussions.

Dubbykins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:13:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Brazil nuts are called Ni###r Toes.

AdvocateSaint ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:13:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion. Just... everything about religion.

kaoikenkid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:14:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't have to let them touch me in those places if I don't want them to

Mackelroy_aka_Stitch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:16:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not everyone is going to judge you if you do something "stupid"

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:17:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Blatant racism. My mother doesn't seem to understand that alot of the things she says are blatantly racist. Whenever she gets called out on it she defends herself saying "it's the truth" and "don't worry it's just us talking". First good chunk of my life I had the same mentality. It's probably bad I'm hoping someone hears her saying these things and does something about it so she can learn her lesson.

Aesah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:17:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom never stops talking so I have to interrupt her to get a word in. Now I constantly interrupt everyone.

NipponNiGajin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:18:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To eat porridge. Mum taught me to add the milk to the porridge but not stir it up, so there was a big cake of porridge floating in milk. Then take small scoops off the edge of the porridge cake where it had cooled down from touching the milk and work my way around in a spiral till I hit the middle. This takes a super fucking long time and keeps the porridge molten hot. Just last week my husband made breakfast for me and asked me if I wanted him to stir it. I had no fucking idea what he was talking about.

lin525 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:19:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

stay cool and be patience

GrumpyKitten1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:20:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My aunt gave me an album with this song on it when I was 9 or 10. It was a revelation.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y52bs0aX6v8

AmbassadorAva ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:20:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a transgender from the sticks. Everything and everyone. I remember my dad told me that it was part of the Islamic religion the hate the United States. That Immigrants take people's Jobs
Makes no fucking sense to me now how I ever believed the things I was told but thanks to the internet I don't have to believe what I'm told anymore.

rinjin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:20:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you won't be able to please everyone, even if you bend over backwards in your attempt. Still trying to unlearn it and be more selfish.

kimkillazilla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:20:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That everything bad that happened/happened to my mom (my parents divorced and my mom never let me see my dad) wasn't my fault.

NIU_1087 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:21:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's normal to own a gun.

It's not easy realizing that your parents are right wing extremists, but the world gets so much better oncs you do.

SFTC_tower_rigger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:31:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It is actually quite normal to own a gun depending on what part of the country try you live in.

SFTC_tower_rigger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:32:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And which country you live in

NIU_1087 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Let me rephrase: That it's acceptable to own a gun.

There's lots of things that are considered normal in the US that are actually morally reprehensible, and that's certainly one of them.

SFTC_tower_rigger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And why is this something you had to unlearn?

NIU_1087 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I moved out and went to college I learned that normal, decent people don't have them.

SFTC_tower_rigger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's hilarious, and it's absolutely without a doubt a very shitty stereotype. I need you to explain what constitutes that not owning a gun makes you normal and a decent person? I'm going to assume you had some really shitty parents or a shit show of an upbringing around firearms because that is the most absurd response I've ever read or heard involving owning guns.

NIU_1087 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Decent people don't want to own something that's entire reason for existing is eliminating life, and that's capable of killing an entire classroom full of kids in 5 seconds. If you don't understand that I don't know what to tell you other than you probably need to seek help.

SFTC_tower_rigger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:02 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't even know where to begin with this wad of nonsense. The only correct statement you have is that guns are designed to kill. The only way possible to kill an entire classroom full of people in 5 seconds is with a fully automatic weapon, and even then you'd have to have some serious training in order to handle that weapon properly in order to commit said act. To legally aquire and own a fully automatic weapon requires a class 3 license. Which takes some time to get and a nice chunk of change. 99% of legal and responsible gun owners are not sociopaths or psycopaths. And the vast majority of gun owners use them for hunting or recreational shooting or personal/home defense. I personally use mine for all 3. Your personal opinion that by owning a firearm automatically deems me in need of Psychiatric help is absolutely absurd and there is not one bit of scientific evidence to support these preposterous claims. I really want to be an ass here and talk some serious shit to you because I absolutely despise people like you. And if you are so anti-gun, you need to take your happy ass to a country whose freedom was not founded using them.

NIU_1087 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:10 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your hunting hobby isn't justification for the 30,000 people that are killed by a gun every year in this country. Also statistics have proven multiple times that guns are useless in self defense and that you're more likely to shoot a family member. Besides, civilized countries have something called police so citizens to have to take it upon themselves to become rambo and chase down a black kid with their AK47.

SFTC_tower_rigger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:24:00 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's not a hobby, it provides food for myself and my family. I also donate any excess to the local food pantry. 30,000 people. Statistically speaking that's a 10th of a percent of the population in the u.s. . More people die from heart disease a year in this country. Please read this article and enlighten yourself on your statistics of shooting a family member: https://www.quora.com/Am-I-more-likely-to-kill-an-intruder-or-a-family-member-with-a-gun-in-my-house I can post many more references if need be to show the fallacy of your argument. You don't like guns. I get it. That doesn't make you a bad person, but for you to use hokum statistics that have no scientific research or studies behind them to back your claims up is absolutely ignorant, and makes you come across as an idiot sir. Also I bet you want hillary Clinton to be the next president. ๐Ÿ˜ ๐Ÿ˜ ๐Ÿ˜ ๐Ÿ˜ ๐Ÿ˜ 

NIU_1087 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:50 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yes, I would prefer that an overwhelmingly experienced and qualified woman lead the free world as opposed to a maniacal, genocidal, tiny handed man with a messiah complex.

And I'm sorry, but I'm not buying into anything a quora article says. Having a gun in your house is simply exposing your entire family to a risk that any rational person couldn't possibly understand. As far as hunting, if you absolutely have to do it( that's a whole other conversation), why not use a bow or something? Wouldn't that actually be more manly? I don't see the skill in blowing away a defenseless animal from a mile away with an assault rifle.

SFTC_tower_rigger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:08:29 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm done here. This is like arguing with a stop sign. And yes I do bow hunt and also use a muzzle loader during that season.

NIU_1087 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:38 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, so you mean banning machine guns won't hurt your ability to hunt?

jilly_is_funderful ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:22:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That my mom's insecurities are not my own. I inherited a high forehead from her. as a result: Bangs/fringe. My whole life until about 24. I'm only 27 now, and it's not that they looked bad or anything, i just wore my hair out of my face and decided that i liked it and embraced my forehead.

Also, that just because my mom or any adult female family member has experienced a thing that I am currently going through, that the end result will be EXACTLY the same. No. It won't. I am not you, you are not me. We do not experience these things the same. It got a lot easier once I moved out on my own.

And I love my mom and grandmother dearly, but holy opinion overload, batman. There is too much alpha female going on when we are all in the same place. 800 miles of distance helps a lot.

Mofme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:25:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

... that exercise/jogging is for idiots. (I was 105 kg at 21 when i started exercising regularly for the first time in my life. I lost 35-40 kg over the next couple of years. This is 15 years ago now, and I still exercise regularly and keep the weight off)

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:25:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eating white bread turns you into a rat. I received a lot of inquisitive looks at birthday parties growing up

Sp0de ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:25:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To behave like a sweet little girl. I'm the only boy in a family of four kids, and a father that's always at work. It's been hard for me to realize, and then make them understand that I was a man, and had the right to be different.

Also, dress correctly. My mother did her best, but at some point you've got to get yourself together and buy your own clothes.

Gunitsreject ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:25:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That having mental health issues means poverty is inevitable. Both parents lived in poverty their whole lives and blamed it on mental health issues that run in both sides of the family. Most of my life I thought I had no chance but I graduated college and now have a good job with disposable imcome.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:25:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be honest, hardworking and respectful of others.

meat_lasso ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:26:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Salmonella from raw eggs. I drink those babies every day. Delicious.

sailorvaj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:27:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you dye your hair, it'll burn it beyond repair. (Guess which parent got their roots done regularly?)

Christian girls don't get sweet sixteens.

If you drive with the window open, a rock will fly in and hit you in the face.

Also a whole bunch of weird sexist stuff for such a liberal family.

OhCleo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:28:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's normal to hate your body even though there's absolutely nothing wrong with it. That skipping meals and lying about not feeling hungry is fine. That obsessing over body image and appearance is normal. That ignoring your body's natural cues is powerful. That growing up, especially getting curvier during puberty and starting one's period is utterly shameful and embarrassing and must be fought against and mourned.

I inherited all my mother's body image shit. Really did a number on me.

Subourban_Rumlord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:29:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mine is pretty minor compared to most here, but it has gotten some laughs from my friends so why not.
For some reason, when I was young, my mom would always call Volkswagen Bugs "Beetle Bugs". No idea why, but it has stuck with me. Whenever I see one now I have to resist the urge to call them that.

vijeno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:35:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Isn't beetle the more correct translation of "Kรคfer" though?

Subourban_Rumlord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:51:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know, maybe my mom is right after all!

me_ditate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:29:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother always taught me that I shouldn't go the same way I came, presumably to keep long car journeys interesting. I however, used to walk 45+ minutes for a 15 minute trip to the shop, for years.

notjdelicious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:29:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To poke sausages when cooking them...

conan3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:30:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

how else would you when they are done, kid? :D

EviX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:29:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being Jehovahs Witness is good.

Nope.

The_Finglonger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:47:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

/r/exjw represent

Lokmann ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:30:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have a really hard time telling the trith even though it doesn't matter because when my mother says something she expects certain answers so instead of telling her the truth I just told her what she wanted to hear. And everybody is not out there to get you so no my friends won't steal from me given the chance.

CaptainAyeAye ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:30:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

Spider_Boobs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:30:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

That I had to be the very best at everything or it wouldn't be worth it. I have memories of having A in piano exams and my father would ask when will I get the A+. I once got second in a exposition of modelismo and my father told me "second place is the first place of the losers". When I got first place he didn't say anything at all. Being the best was the bare minimum. For years I didn't pursue my dreams, even simply things like doing a blog, because I compared way too much to others and if there was already a better one doing it I would think it wouln't be worth doing it, so I ended up never doing anything I wanted because I never felt good enough. The key thing that helped me was my girlfriend. She has a lot of projects: writing, photography, cinema. And at first I thaught - and I even hurted her - that her work wasn't good enough and she should apply more. But then I realized that at least she was getting things done, a book published, a photography project with thousands of followers. She made me realize that the most important part is to just do, even if it isn't perfect.

Now I finnaly got my movies blog that for years I wanted to do but always thaught it wasn't worth it, and I'm starting a music youtube chanel. My father still watches my videos and say that they have a couple mistakes there, why did I publish them (if you're curious check my post history). I don't have hard feeling towards him, I know he doesn't mean bad, it's just how he is. And I agree with the first part. But even if I always have that voice that my work isn't good enough and I should apply myself more, I don't let that feeling stop me from actually putting myself out there. What I do can have value if it isn't the best. "Life doesn't have to be perfect, it just has to be lived."

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:32:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not my parents, but aeroplane pilots.

Having wifi on in a plane while it's in the air doesn't do anything. It won't interfere and kill everyone, it's to avoid people dicking around on their phones.

Fuck aeroplane companies.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:33:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I did an experiment where I didn't turn it off, no one died.

why_itsme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:33:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That bacon and french fries was a good Friday night dinner. While yummy, 15 years of it sure wasn't healthy.

prideinparanoia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:35:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents taught me to stand up for myself and all that stuff but they raised me waaay too polite. I used to get a little slap whenever I talked to older people and didn't say 'u' , (respectable form of you where I come from) or if I did not say please and thank you I would not get desert or I would get a scolding. My parents are still really proud of how polite I am to people but others are thoroughly annoyed by it. I have even been fired because I was being too polite to customers. My friends say it, their parents say it, my psychologist says it and my teachers say it. I don't know how and why but it's really irritating people.

Trace199112 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:35:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Took me 20 years to learn that your underwear isn't where you take a poop.

lilysantos93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:37:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My Mom always told me I'd grow out of my "baby fat". That's not how this works, that's not how any of this works.

RiverWyvern ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:38:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom taught me that guys and girls can't be friends, only partners in love. As a kid, I pretended to have crushes on random guys cause that just seemed liked the thing I was supposed to do. Then she divorced my dad, took half my childhood, and moved 3,000 miles away where she was engaged to four different men within three years. As for me, I went to high school, made awesome guy friends who would play pokemon and yugioh with me, and went out with some amazing girls.

kinggzy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:39:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mormonism. Was indoctrinated. Around 12 years old I was getting totally bullshit answers to existential questions. "God works in mysterious ways". So you're telling me that you don't know how any of this shit works. But I should be okay with that. Having grown up viewing these people as educational mentors, I expected more. Didn't last long.

Lanestagram ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:39:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Their religion. It took me years to lose the guilt of living my life for myself and not for the all powerful sky king

dannymason ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:40:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The secret to getting a girlfriend is to open doors for girls to show them what a chivalrous gentleman you are.

somethingcuteandclev ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:41:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

lukianp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:41:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Computers were the enemy, anything to do with technology had no future and that you should focus on a uni degree or vocational (born early 80s)

Now at the peak of all things virtualisation and corporate infrastructure.

AmericanPolyglot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:42:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Really terrible eating habits, and that things like white bread and fruit smoothies were nutritional because "Bread! Fruit!"

NitronRob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:42:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know how I got this, defiantly not from my parents, but I love collecting stuff. In video games and real life I die over rare or limited edition items. I have 6 different collections of things.

DanielKebab ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:42:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eating pasta with my fork and knife

falseHue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:42:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that homosexuality is wrong.

lordcris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:42:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm attractive.

michi03 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:43:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That there is a God. Considering all the fucked up shit that happens in this world I'm pretty sure there is no God.

darkviper039 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:43:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

religion

ragn4rok234 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:43:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to treat other people regardless of who they are. Basically now I try to be a better person and more empathetic especially to those I don't know (waiters, customers, people on the road, people from different cultures). They've actually begun to piggy back off me and start treating more people better.

Anti-Nephi-Levis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:45:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mormonism.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:47:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was gonna post something trivial, but after reading the comments I'm just kinda :/ about how many shitty parent stories there are here. Takes a lot to break abusive or toxic patterns.

FanSciFi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:47:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Girls don't poop.

Mom told me that, just one of those things I believed her on.

When I found out it was a lie, it was devastating for me. I saw women as these non-shitting perfect beauties. Now I find out they shit like men? It still kind of bothers me that women poop after thinking for so many years that they didn't.

The worst part - I had a little sister, who's diapers I changed. I just never connected the dots I guess. So when my teacher or a student was speaking of women defecation, and I was all like "NUH-UH, WOMAN DON'T POOP"...the stares...so bad...so..bad.

andyrb412 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:48:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's ok to have a water or other beverage with soup.

Years of "no you can't have a drink, soup IS a drink".

This is just the tip of the iceberg. I have a lot of anger towards my mother and haven't spoken to her in 10 years.

Humanspork ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:48:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eat all the food on my plate.

redditproha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:48:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

life, pretty much.

Snazzzy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:48:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Alcoholism

illegalmonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:48:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

reenaissance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:50:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Always stay in your comfort zone.

Nope. Not gonna do that. That's not how to live your life to the fullest.

Music-and-Arts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:50:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You must wait 30 minutes to swim after eating. In fact, isn't it better even to eat right before swimming?

AM_key_bumps ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:50:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We never got food delivered as a child because my parents were convinced it wound arive cold. We picked up everything people normally have delivered, pizza, Chinese, etc, even if the place had delivery. And we lived pretty far outside of town where all that stuff was.

It wasn't until I got to college that I figured out delivery food usually is pretty warm.

SkyBlo0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:51:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Every time I read a thread like this, I look at myself and my parenting and take notes on what to NOT do with my kids or what to STOP doing/ do more often. It's interesting to see how things look on the other side.

Spreaditandwinkit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:52:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My aunt told me one night that if you sleep on your back , dรฉmons would drag you To hell . I spent 3 or 4 years sleeping on my belly. One night i tried sleeping on my back . Best sleep ever.

DesertRebel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:52:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There are eight planets in our Solar System. (to be fair, when I was growing up Pluto was a planet...)

samixon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:52:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Extreme Modesty. It's ok to know that you're good at something, just don't be a Dick about it

har_dus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:53:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The mindset that if something could go wrong, it probably will.

Wivler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:54:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Math, the wrong way

RidgeRumpuss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:56:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bread goes in the fridge..... I was the weird one in halls at uni because of this

newbts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:22:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you don't eat it fast enough then yeah, putting it in the fridge helps, I do this. But traditionally I know it's "wrong", lol.

robomonkeyscat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:56:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That exercise is unnecessary. My mother weighs math homework a lot higher. Still trying to unlearn this one.

Also, that visitors to the house will dirty everything. Didn't realize how opposed to visitors I was until I was in college and my buds would suggest predrinking at my place and I'd find any reason possible to do so. Also still trying to unlearn this one.

shahmanav789 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:58:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Spending money. My family was moderately wealthy but my father was a bit of a spendthrift and settled for only the best and nothing else. I'm about to move out of their house soon and I'm glad I didn't follow his ideals

knot2kool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:11:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Isn't spendthrift cheap?

shahmanav789 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:24:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Spendthrift (n) : A person who spends money in an irresponsible and extravagant manner

knot2kool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:30:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you.

kheroth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:58:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That most of the sodium in a bag of ramen is in the flavoring. For years I didn't drink the broth, turns out it's the noodles themselves that get you.

Hogspringer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:14:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wait, so did you get health problems from eating ramen or something? I mean you probably just found it out somewhere, but from what you wrote it sounds like there was repercussions...

ShitBabyPiss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:58:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God...

becoruthia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:59:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If in an argument: "The most clever person gives up."

No, dad. No.

jejeje117 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:00:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bacon-my parents undercooked it all the time. I started cooking it until it had the right texture for me, and I haven't looked back since.

On the other end of the scale, I have to tell myself all the time that all meat does not need to be in the oven for nearly twice as long as the recipe calls for, and I shouldn't overfill saucepans and frying pans.

massivepen15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:01:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:02:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That when you are angry with someone you should hold it in and punish them silently by being moody and aggressive until you get your own way without ever engaging in open conversation about the issue. Also that if you are ever wrong about anything that it's ok to change your position or lie about things to make yourself be right. If this doesn't work then simply deny any knowledge of the incident. Thanks mum.

shamshairabbas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:02:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother taught me not to fight ever.

z0rlac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:02:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It took me an amazing amount of time to realise that hate and bigotry was not the way the world should work. I was appalled at them when i realised this, but was horrified with myself for falling for their incessant rhetoric and subliminal messages throughout my childhood.

Meateous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:03:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Near everything...fucking christ....

Thehunterforce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:03:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That drinking alcohol everyday is not okay. Growing up my dad was a blazing alcoholic and my mother would do anything to excuse his problem. So basically she supported him in being an alcoholic because there certainly wasnt anything wrong with our family. Great times.

workcyclecreate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:05:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom and her dad broke up, the relationship was ruined after all the stress. So she lives with her dad now. And he has had help with how to deal with her. I dont have contact with her anymore, but 3 days after they left i totally broke down emotionally because of the peace at home. After 15 years living together with a person like that it was such a change i just couldn't handle it. But i do talk to my ex-stepdad sometimes and everything seems to be pretty good right now

Maunjax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:07:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity. Although honestly, my skepticism started in well before I was an adult.

gh0st665 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:08:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A southern protestant upbringing.

gloriousgeorge90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:08:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

anger

neonusound ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:09:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thinking that the only people who will help you no matter what are your family - that other people come and go. So not true. Made me feel bad about caring more my best friend than a third cousin who I saw maybe once a year. Also, not talking back, and disagreeing with them in public. Ah, and the fact that girls need to fix their hair and do some make up to have "personality" and be amicable and attractive. Bullshit, lol. My step mum was pretty conservative ;)

SandhuG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:09:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That life is like a box of chocolates. Well it is not their fault these chocolates tastes like shit

Ingloriousfiction ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:09:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to unlearn the dynamic of what i thought marriage was.

Abuse, lies, "she wony leave me mentality", Jesus doesnt agree with divorce blah blah

Happiness is #1 in marriage and it usually happens when you dont put your dick into someone who isnt 100% devoted to the relationship

Communication keeps the lube on the wheels and ffs dont listen to others if you are already kinda happy

Anivair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:10:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ITT: everyone's parents are awful cooks.

sangeetpaul ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:10:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That religion is unquestionable. I guess most (not all) kids are brought up with the idea that the dogma laid down by their religion is incontrovertibly true. So was I. Until I learnt basic logic and reasoned my way into atheism and convinced my parents to do the same.

swr3212 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:11:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

TIL all fathers suck (including mine).

Milkshake03 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:11:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To wait until you are offered something. If you want it, you make sure you get it. Waiting around isnt worth your time.

SandhuG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:11:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Another gem that God loves you.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:11:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Forgive everyone.

Iceklimber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:11:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religious propaganda and superstition ร  la "Children will not grow if you step over them!"

DrunkAssBum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:12:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sex

m0rningstar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:12:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That all car mechanics are evil, money-scheming, untrustworthy liars.

My dad almost never took our cars to get fixed (unless it ed in an accident and they're was no choice). Never even saw our heard them talk about getting an oil change. My first car, I drove it 10k miles before getting an oil change because my boyfriend told me about it. The guy at Jiffy Lube yelled at me.

HorridxDiddie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:13:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Constantly judging everyone but mostly judging me in front of relatives, close or not so close friends. It made me extremely self-conscious because I used to think that it was a common thing and everyone was doing it and I was very careful of what I said, wore or how I behave.

cheated_in_math ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:15:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism, thankfully I grew up to have a mind of my own.

anuchivu007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:15:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion and faith.....

ManOfMystery420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:16:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

_th4d_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:16:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

jakeyowza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:17:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Playing basketball makes you taller

The_Illuminist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:17:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That gay people were wrong.

I had to unlearn that pretty quickly when i hit 18.

therealjonnyboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:18:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad always said, "pay with cash if you can, never get a credit card." I now exclusively pay with a credit card and use my "cash" to pay it off immediately. You know because I'd like to buy a house someday.

Norgler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:18:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was a kid I use to run around the house with one sock on a lot.. well one day to get me to stop my.mother told me if I don't wear two socks the other foot will eventually fall off. I spent a few years terrified this would come true. So I always either had two socks on or none.. damn if I wanted end up like a pirate with a wood leg.

As an adult I brought this up to her like why would she say something so cruel to get me to wear two socks. She claims to have no memory of ever saying such a thing.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:19:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That i wasnt an utter failure at everything. Trying new things is still hard for me today. I stick to the tried and true. I used to believe that if i couldnt do something id never done before perfectly the first time , i was just useless. My older brother and star child in my dads eyes could always do it first time like beginners luck, that probably didnt help things. No second tries, just gtfo of the way let your brother do it.

Morse_Dick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:19:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom's temper. She has lots of problems handling her anger and she says, yells, and does things she doesn't "mean to", and to be honest I don't ever argue with my dad like I do with her, so she was the only one I argued with like that. Come time for me to start looking for serious relationships, and I'm scared to have normal arguments with my SO, because I'm afraid I'll subconsciously say/do something that will resemble my mom's behavior. So I guess I haven't quite unlearned it.

Dagostar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:19:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To eat everything on my plate.

And my girlfriends plate.

And the plates of people near us in restaurants.

Help me.

Phenakist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:19:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That everyone is really a nice person on the inside and that you should just accept whatever bad things they're doing to you because if you said something bad back to them that makes you a worse person, so you pray for them later and God will make whatever is making them be a bad person go away.

My Mother with her amazingly sheltered Bible indoctrinating upbringing, took until I was 16, and an entire school career of bullying to realise that people are fucking assholes until proven otherwise and to take no shit for no reason.

Edit: Typo

bluepandadog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:20:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My value as a partner relied on my sexual purity. As soon as I had sexual contact with someone, they would leave me and no one would ever want to be with me because I was dirty and sullied. I still struggle with extreme sexual guilt sometimes. I used to cry after I would kiss someone

m0rningstar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:20:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I grew up thinking food could be left on the counter over night and it would still be okay to eat as long as it didn't smell bad. Also, expiration dates are just suggestions.

My husband likes to cook and is very quick to throw things out if it is past the date or even looks bad. Took me awhile to get with practicing safe food practices, including safe handling of raw meat.

theswedishsalmon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:27:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, don't pay too much attention to the exiration dates. They are more for the store than for you. Use your senses and you'll save some money and food.

El_Barto_227 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:22:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Depends on the food, really. Raw meat, definitely be caeful.

waraukaeru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:21:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Marshmallows don't grow on trees.

When I was little we stayed at my Uncle's cabin in Walla Walla. We woke in the morning to find the trees covered in marshmallows. We ate so many. That was fun.

Unfortunately I was a teenager before realizing this was a whimsical prank.

akhims ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:21:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wash isn't pronounced Warsh. The capital of the United States isn't Warshinton DC. The school trip to DC was hard on me.

abandoningeden ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:21:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pronouncing it "Cock-a-roach" instead of "cock-roach." I'm not sure if that's cause my parents are NYers or they just really liked scarface and that meme got out of hand in my household? I still haven't unlearned it, and I'm not sure I ever can (although I correct myself now).

darylbentham ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:23:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have a nut allergy and my mother convinced me I was allergic to palm oil for 19 years. I missed out on foods and evenings out for THAT many years.

Sorarey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:23:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Growing up with 2 siblings and not much money. Still most difficult to learn is the joy of treating myself. It's not a waste of money if I want that chocolate now or eating out once/twice a month, mom! Yes, that leek is "expensive" right now and will be on sale next week but I want to cook THIS dish now!

Edit: It's a nice skill to manage your money nonetheless. But feeling guilty, even bad for spending money or having a tough time deciding if you should buy something is just mental stress.

unruled_circumstance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:24:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That when the ice cream van makes a chime, they haven't run out of ice cream...

HitchikersPie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:50:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wha...?!?!

Al-Dodeki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:25:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being a nice guy and having good morals

AromaticHydrocarbons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:25:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mum was obsessed with my brother and I getting a tertiary education, because we'd "never get jobs without a degree." She would stress and harass us so much through senior years of high school and was quite "fed up" with us during the years we were supposed to be at university but were both working instead. She really made us feel like we'd let the family down and that she wasn't proud of us.

We both now earn over $100K each, because we're intelligent hard-working people with great leadership skills, critical thinkers and problem solvers. Neither of us earned any degrees.

She's fine now, and once our careers seemed more obvious she chilled out about it all.

Meanwhile, Dad, the whole time was more on the "I don't even care if you don't have a job, so long as you're happy" wagon and never gave us any grief.

It's evident she only did this because she had a fight with her father in grade 12, dropped out of high school so that she could afford to move out of home and has only ever worked as a secretary/admin officer her whole life. I certainly don't judge anyone who does that, but she wanted to do more and just never did. She was worried we'd end up feeling the same as her.

Ga1acticKitty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:26:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mum didn't exactly teach me this, but she didn't stop it when she noticed it happening.

When she was younger she used to bottle up her anger and frustrations, never letting anyone in, and to an extent, still does. She knew I was also like this, but what she never told me was that holding it all in was damaging her body, she got stomach ulcers and got a cyst in her gall bladder, which damaged her stomach so bad that she's in her 50s and it still is deformed. I had to learn to let people in and release my anger and frustration in a healthy way.

NSGillan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:27:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That money isnt free

dane2point0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:31:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Being in multiple foster care homes as a child I pretty much seen it all some families were cooperative supportive and loving others were greedy angry and had control issues. I think some can care too much by trying to replicate thier success in thier children raising the bar to unattainable levels for the development stage they are at.

Wile others simply are just trying to survive the hardships of parenting by commanding complete obidience

Then there are those that have failed in life and live through thier children exspecting them to do wat they could not And then there are those that just dont give a fuk an let u do what u want

I only know this cos I saw 15 different types over 12 years before I ran away at 15 to never have any support in adulthood fuk the system I would have liked there to have been something to unlearn

5degreestotheleft ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:33:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to raise kids.

MrsWhatsit-75 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:34:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't remember. Guess I was successful at unlearning them!

notapantsday ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:35:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Avoid confrontation at all cost. Enduring bad situations is always better than trying to make a change.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:35:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That life is just always going to be shitty no matter what and that all happiness is constantly fleeting and WILL end eventually.

hallybru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:37:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That they were always right

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:38:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Altruism.

kuranesLives ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:40:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If your going to demand someone live by a set of rules you have to also live by those rules, giving yourself special exemptions just fucks everything up, that shit runs deep and I fight with it everyday, hypocrisy combined with automatic doubling down, learned from my mother this shit has cost me so much respect, I'm pretty close to being free of it now at least.

Family life should also not be about how much people owe each other since a child in most cases can never repay a parent for their material "investment". Don't have children if you aren't prepared to support them and teach them until they are capable of supporting themselves. Simplified I guess this is about learning the value of responsibility, and I am painfully aware that I still haven't due to, in part, my upbringing.

sweetmilkshake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:42:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

hmm.. that thing about Santa?

boobiesiheart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:42:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eating habits

HoratioMarburgo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:43:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ITT: People complaining about their mom's cooking

HiItsSam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:46:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Answering back, damn you'd get a thrashing if you answered back

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:47:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom always thought me to try get the easy way through something. I can't reallygive examples, but looking back, she really wasn't doing her best for us, or giving her all. She dis exactly what was needed for the bare minimum and thats all. I didn't realize until a few months ago, but damn am I glad I could shake that attitude off.

Cpt_Whitebeard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:47:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Honestly? Religion.

scarvet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:47:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You mean you didn't

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:47:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Omg. My parents are like 90% of these.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:48:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the democratic party actually cares about the people.

l0stinthought ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:48:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Nothing. I had the best parents in the world and look how I shamed them. So many regrats. I just can't wait until 2 to see my loved ones for the first time in 9 loong year.

KoloBroseph ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:50:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mormonism.

cssmythe3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:51:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Clean plate club.

AbysmalVixen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:51:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They didn't really "teach" me this but it's something I've learned better. Updates aren't a bad thing when it comes to devices. My mom is so paranoid that Windows update will brick her PC (like what happened back with one of the XP service pack updates) that she doesn't update anything. I recently went through her phone and hit update on a few apps that she uses a ton and are sort of vital to business. She's getting that "if it works right now then why bother" mentality. Can't wait till Firefox and chrome stop supporting vista.... That will be a fun week because i.e. Is garbage.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:51:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being a shit human being with zero commitment to their spouse or family needs.

AdamJr87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:52:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have to look and act a certain way or else I'm a waste to society and never going anywhere in life. After 20 years of this, I started going to therapy for depression. For the next 5 years therapist basically "taught" me being a gender fluid Wiccan didn't mean i was fucked up and could actually live my life how I wanted.

bs000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:52:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

how to accept a gift

makenzie71 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:52:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents divorced when I was about 6 and I ended going back and forth every year or two. My father was a cheap man...he would spend money on guns, but not much else. My mother, and her new husband, were the kind of people who would rather have the things money can buy than the money itself...so they blew it all.

It's taken me the last 10 years of my life to learn and practice that there must be a balance between the two. Blowing all of your money is as dangerous to you as trying to preserve every penny.

-apricotmango ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:52:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mormonism. Thank god for the local library and their vast collection of science documentaries and books. I always questioned the church, and always enjoyed my documentaries. It wasn't until I was 12 that I began refusing to go.

Not all mormons are "bad people", but man some of these people are as bright as a stick of butter. No wonder they got suckered into the place. Religion is fucked.

nightmareconfetti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:52:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't throw it away, you might need it! My husbands way of combating this is to assure me that if I throw out something I need, he will just buy me another one. It's helped a lot, I just boxed up a box of shirts for goodwill; 94 shirts. No one needs 94 shirts.

starshine789 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:53:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom yells and cusses when ever anything goes wrong and I do the same. Now I live with my dad whose real mellow and I'm slowly getting back to normal.

Raawrrish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:53:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Excessive drinking. Still working on it.

vzttzv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:54:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You should always do what your parents told you, no questions asked

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:54:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's me versus everybody else, and that everybody is out to 'get you' in some form. Or you have to justify what you're doing.

Turns out no, other people are no your enemies, now I'm much more confident out in public.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:54:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm a piece of shit and everything is my fault. Fuck those people.

HamzaAzamUK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:56:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Picking up food from the floor and eating it will cause you to fall ill.

PatrikPatrik ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:56:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the holocaust was horrible but that the Jews were too many. They're not kkk or anything just Scandinavians born in the 40's and some of those have fucked up world views.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:57:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Finishing my food.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:57:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm trying to unlearn that I don't have to get everything I want. We were poor when I grew up but my parents wanted me and my siblings to experience and get just as much as our peers. Amusement parks, holidays, new clothes and cinema trips was realistically things we couldn't afford.

Now that their finances are way more stable and I've grown up and moved out, I find that I impulse buy a lot. If there's something I want, I have a hard time going without and I instantly feel as poor as we were years ago and I get anxious. I realize it's a privilege, but I don't tell them when I can only afford food for the month, or there's some expensive thing I want but decides not to get because of the price. They still don't have a lot of money but doesn't want me to go without anything, while I just really want to get over the anxiety and learn to be independent.

thischangeseverythin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:58:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism, sexism and misogynistic tendencies

2elles2teas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:59:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That old people zoning out is not them practicing being dead. I blurted that one out after it surfaced in my adulthood.

hellosugar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:00:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They cooked everything with massive amounts of salt and chilli. I had to change my tastebuds because everything I cooked was giving my friends and girlfriends a stomachache.

zEaK47 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:00:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That life is:

  • Going to school
  • Graduating
  • Getting a job
  • Getting married
  • Having kids
  • Dying

Than in order to get the fancy cars i used to watch on tv i have to study hard to get a good job

That it was my fault that they almost got a divorce

That i should do what i'm supposed to do not what i feel like the right thing.

oh i could go on all day long...

kmillll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:00:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The word warsh

Victuz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:00:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lying. Primarily my mother, as a kid I was asked to lie about a variety of things. Electricity meter guy showing up? Nobody is home. Family member asking about a thing? Never happened.

Lots and lots and lots of small things, some bigger ones. I got to be really good at lying and I absolutely hate it.

My mother still tries to pull this shit today, but I fight against it every time. "Why would you lie about that!?" is my new mantra when discussing stuff with her.

Topsy-turvy56 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:00:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everything !!!!

upinflamezzz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:00:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're all lucky your parents tried to teach you anything. I can't remember one instance of my parents giving me any advice on any topic. I just went to school and learned from my peers and teachers.

pikapp499 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:00:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

common_broseph ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:00:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Paraphrasing: Be a nice guy and women will want you before 35.

walkthrough_summer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:00:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to be vulnerable. I grew up in an ex-farming family and no one talks about anything. Ever. I've struggled with depression and anxiety for years and didn't tell anyone because it's simply not spoken of. I finally opened up to a cousin of mine and she told me that half our family is on meds for one or the other. What the hell.

It also has affected my ability to form quality relationships because I'm 'inscrutable' and extremely private.

UnmentionableS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:02:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was taught never to look someone stright in the eyes or make direct i contact. Dear god this has caused me so many problems in adulthood and I am still stuggling with it.

ariwoolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:02:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism.

NSFWThrowaway314651 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:03:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The loudest voice is always correct.

ravenxrose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:03:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being a member of a conservative christian cult with racist, sexist, homophobic, etc political views. Thankfully I found the internet at a young enough age that I was able to question my beliefs and re-form them.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:03:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To this day, when I bbq for my parents I have to put my moms steak on 15 minutes before ours.

pm_me_your_amphibian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:04:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to eat. I grew up with a pretty disordered view of my weight and food in general. I thought I was fat, I wasn't. I had no idea how to cook proper food or what was nutritious and what wasn't.

DasFreakk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:04:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Putting the toilet seat back down. Rebellion!!!

scottjeffreys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:04:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's okay to put dishes in the dishwasher without without fully washing them with dish soap first.

BiAndHappy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:05:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.....

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:06:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

'God is watching your every action and thought. If you don't stay on his good side he will torture you forever.

amsgm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:06:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

About politics, my parents are very conservatives, and all my childhood was based on this way of thinking, but now I don't think like them anymore

AirmanZimm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:07:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Santa ran out of bikes because our last name begins with Z, and he ran out before he got to our house

zuchit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:07:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Always trying to please others and being concerned about what society thinks.

I think i inherited that mindset and attitude from my father.

I had to go through some dark and stupid bs to finally learn to stand up for myself and unlearn those qualities.

WuSin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:07:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:08:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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ChoptankLive ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:29:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Never had Chinese food until grad school.

thundertool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:09:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to spend all your money all the time

ctadgo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:09:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That always trying to blame someone is an unhealthy and unhappy way to live. I think if my mom focused less on blaming and more on fixing, her life would be easier. Her ego however would have to take a major hit.

loki8481 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:09:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

nonfat/fat-free food isn't necessarily healthier for you.

growing up, both of my parents were diet fiends and always on some trend diet or another (which us kids also had to comply with)... all we ever had in the house was fat-free versions of whatever.

wasn't until I actually took a nutrition class in college that I learned that fat free food is often laden down with sugar and carbs and may even have a higher caloric count than regular versions of the same food.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:09:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom was abused by exes and has mental illness, I had to unlearn the thinking that any time someone yells at me or raises their voice at me it was all my fault if they hit me because I aggravated them, never the person who hit me or yelled.

FamtasticTravels ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:11:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism, I didn't really learn to be racist but one day me and some friends were playing and my mom straight up shouted out the window "I don't want you playing with that nigger boy!" Like, he was my friend and I couldn't wrap my head around what the huge deal was. After that most of the kids in the apartment complex didn't really want to play with me which sucked major. I've since kicked a lot of stereotypes from my brain by just being friends with anyone I can make friends with. Probably why I have mild social anxiety, from living with an ass backwards family for so long.

BeurredeTortue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:12:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eat everything on your plate no matter how full you were...

Still having issues with this as an adult, I never learned what normal satiety feels like and I always overeat

N7Gentleman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:13:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Violence is not the solution...

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:13:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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ChoptankLive ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:26:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As an Appalachian, just remember they likely did the best they could. Today's 20-30 year olds have no idea how hard it is to learn the truth about life and the world without the internet and cable TV. Rabbit ear black and white gets you the local news. Collier's encyclopedias in the library or your house were printed every 5 years and sanitized so the school districts could put them in the library. That was their education.

In 25 years, you will be able to see wisdom and common sense in many things that seem backwards to you now. I do.

IvanDerSchreck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:13:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My ex gf's mother used to tell her and her sister that brown cows gave chocolate milk. They believed that for so long that my ex actually embarassed herself in school because she said that brown cows are responsible for chocolate milk.

Crysalim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:13:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just doing enough to get by instead of excel.

0LORD-VADER0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:14:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Swear words

eljonan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:15:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm useless.

I used to be a big kid and therefore my mom expected me to have proportional strength and stamina as a child. This meant I was to put up all groceries carry all manner of heavy objects and any time I would complain I'd be called useless and she go into a fit of rage. To this day I cannot stand that word.

MIsamisahime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:15:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was a kid my mom would scold me for getting sick of injured. She would tell me how inconvenient it was to take care of me and that it was my fault for diffrent reasons. (Not wearing a jaket, walking around the house without shoes, sleeping with the fan on, being careless) I'm 27 and married and every time my husband gets sick I struggle to be sympathetic and not resent him. I know we can get sick even if we do everything right and that getting sick or injured is unpredictable.

Mrchickfila ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:15:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus

Blastbeast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:16:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the world probably isn't going to end in our lifetimes from biblical end times prophecies, and that living as such is not mentally healthy. Gotta think positive. Scaring your kids about burning in hellfire for touching themselves is something I've had to unlearn as well.

dangerfriday ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:18:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

That I am worth more than the grades I receive in school. Basically, I was grounded from grades 5 to 10 because I just couldn't get my grades up. Looking back, I think it was a combination of boredom and ADHD, but at the time my mother would just stand me up in the kitchen for hours screaming at me and calling me lazy, and I would just sob on about how I didn't know why I couldn't just do the work or study. I really didn't know. This basically equates to adult me not feeling worth a damn unless I get a college degree and a good high paying job with full benefits, maybe a house and working car. I do medical coding now. I really just want to be and artist or an actor, but I have to make her see I'm worth something.

edit: a word

ChoptankLive ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:13:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't do that. If your goal is to make her see you are worth something, you will fight forever and after she is dead and gone you will fight her ghost. Do what you think is right for you and let your success satisfy you. I still struggle to even celebrate an accomplishment or share the news bc there will always be this fear of the belittling comment - "oh, so your office won't be near the big firms?"

I feel your pain and am over 50. In high school it was "before you think about a major let's see if you even get accepted to a college." Flying through college with great grades and double science majors and talking about grad school - "you'll never have the money to do that" and "that's IF you graduate."

Noquar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:18:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I can do anything I want to do if I put my mind to it.

shitfuckvaginacunt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:19:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

most of what they knew

ShySinger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:19:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

nes9374 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:21:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not counting pennies...not always buying generic. Going into the grocery store and getting whatever I want. I came from a large family.

numeraire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:21:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Be so conservative about investing

kerberoswhiskers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:22:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Late but, my mom taught me to hate my own body. Growing up i would always hear her complain about how fat she looked, she would jokingly pinch any extra skin I had. She would always tell women in our family if she thought that they needed to lose weight.

No one said anything cause she was like an honest auntie to all. I always told her that it was mean and unhealthy to treat people like that, to tell them those things without thinking of their insecurities and that I would never hate myself like that.

On the outside, i still stand by the same values. I will never tell anyone those things but when I look in the mirror what I see disgusts me. I see myself as obese even though I weigh 120 at 5"5.

It's fucking sad. I'm still trying to undo the damage.

NoBSforGma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:22:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Prejudice and snobbery. Ugh.

nolafan89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:24:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents buy everything brand new, always on credit. They got me into a cycle of always buying a brand new car and paying a car note. They make an above average living [around 150k a year between them], and they dont buy frivolously. That said, they buy everything on credit and essentially seem like their plan is to pay notes forever.

Also Trump.

Left4pillz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:25:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't swear, believe in heaven/hell (My parents are atheists but wanted me to do good of course), and stay out of danger (Want to join the Police, a potentially dangerous job, and practice parkour from time to time.)

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:27:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They didn't teach by words but rather by example... Just that general overly pacified behavior that puts the ovoidance of conflict above anything else, even above oneself. They're the type that would never act with violence (even to protect themselves or their loved ones from unjustified agression). That did leave a mark on me through my entire life.

As a child I let myself be hurt sometimes by other children and didn't strike back, as if something was always telling me that getting into a fight was not right. Luckly it was never serious once I've never got badly hurt or anything (as if something was protecting me all the way too, strange as it might seem).

As an adult I've let people tell me bad things and even take some form of advantage over me at work for not being able, again, to strike back, to stand up for myself, only this time in a different arena. I have the continuous feeling that I have to abide by certain laws of behavior but as time goes by I see that most people don't have this kind of limitation on them (and they can be mean as they please). It is not fair and I'm not taking this shit any longer.

Now in my current line of work being mean is sometimes advisable and even necessary so I'm growing more confident on this day by day. It takes a bit of effort on my part to do this sometimes, though.

mizake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:30:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's okay to be heard.

weakbuttrying ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:32:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"You have no musical talent. Never ever think about performing any music in public, you'll just embarrass yourself."

Took me well over ten years of practicing the guitar alone to muster the courage to join a band because it ran deep.

You wouldn't believe it but my parents are incredibly supportive in every other aspect of my life, whether I've actually been good at something or not. I have no idea what was going on with this weird concern they obviously had.

superkickpalooza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:32:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

there is more to cooking than a microwave. i didnt know how to use an oven or stove until i was 20 years old and a girlfriend had to show me.

you mean i can bake chicken strips and make them crispy? hoooly shit.

AnotherPint ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:32:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That sitting too close to the color TV gives you radiation sickness, and the health risks of color TV were so high, the only one we owned had to be safely sequestered in Mom's bedroom where the kids could not access it.

MyDadIsYourDad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:32:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's rude to say yes when someone offers you something. And where I live it's rude to say no. I got a lot of weird looks before I figured it out.

Aarapparent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:34:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Catholicism

Verdomde ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:34:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

All that God stuff, unlearned successfully by getting educated, then learned the Bible actually has real history in it too - not just fantasy. Go figure.

jordaddy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:34:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to learn that there are times when tucking in your shirt is acceptable, and other times when it's lame as hell. I learned this in gymnastics when my coach told me I looked stupid in front of everyone.

justncredible3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:42:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I read "fucking in your shirt" the first three times I read your comment. Really changes the story.

jordaddy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:46:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I would have been a lot less lame, that's for sure!

pChristian70 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:35:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:35:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom always turned off the TVs when she ran the vacuum because... I guess apparently running a vacuum with a TV on can ruin the TV somehow?

Since then I've learned that hey, that's pretty stupid. But to this day when I run the vacuum I have this nagging subconscious feeling that the TV is going to somehow magically break when I run the vacuum with it on.

nightC0re_02 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:35:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I am stupid because I am slow to vocally respond in situations.

(I am slow to respond because I stutter... alot)

ItsCoolWhip ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:36:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

chancellorsaltine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:36:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that nothing is ever an accident.

Verbenablu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:36:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That they were always right.

no_body_here ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:36:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be afraid of everything

folen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:36:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

you had to eat your entire plate.

Jst_curious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:38:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Cooking pasta... wasn't a fan of pasta because it was always in a soup (parents treated it like noodles). Had pasta at a friend's house when I was 14, loved it.

ThisIsSpata ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:38:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's not okay to need emotional support and to express that need. *it was not as much of a lesson as it was an implied thing interacting with them taught me. Still have a hard time looking vulnerable in front of people or asking for support when in an emotional problem.

gwendolyndot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:38:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Umm let's see... everything! In my 20s I have attempted to unlearn - or more succinctly - call into question - the rules and guidelines of Life that were passed down to me through direct and indirect symbiosis of spending 19 years of my life with one person : religion, politics, ethics and morality, ideas on work and money, and personality traits/neurotic ways of being that were passed to me without question and without awareness.

It's been difficult but rewarding work. This is important mental work every person alive needs to take on; it allows for a value system and world view that aligns with the individual and not the individual's parents, and this alone provides for a much happier and more meaningful existence.

Duke_Kywalker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:41:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A dog did not in factbeat my father over the fence as he was racing to impregnate my mother like he always told me...mom says it was a badass komodo dragon

AcrasiaCirce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:41:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That family was forever.

AgentOrangutan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:41:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That masturbation is ok..

Crumpeh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:42:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That parents don't have eyes in the back of their head, they can never see what you are doing in the backseat of the car or at the dining table when they're preparing food.

bloodflart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:42:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Took 30 years to get over my bad eating habits. I thought it was perfectly normal...still not totally fixed

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:43:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Had to unlearn the first 27 years of my life. I got to a point where I was convinced I was insane. Now I realize sanity is a rare case on earth.

I've been to mosques , churches, synagogue, Buddhist temples, therapists searching for sanity. Only to realize that I'm myself. What ever that may be in any given situation and that's OK. There is no cookie cutter format. None.

Do not obstruct. That's my one law. Myself or others.

Khanthulhu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:44:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When you start something you have to finish it. Listening to the upside of quitting episode of freakanomics helped.

MCK193 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:44:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Children should be seen and not heard."

I don't have children yet but it still looks strange when I see a mother having a conversation with their child like s/he's another person.

I hope I'm going to be a good mum that acknowledges my kids. :)

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:45:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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pbj986 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:47:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't see how your parents teaching you not to put off chores (i.e. things you don't want to do but are necessary) translates in you never saying no. Sounds like you took the lesson too far by what I'm reading.

deedoedee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:46:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom was and still is a pathological liar. It doesn't matter what the situation was, she would always make something up and gain a consensus with us on what the story would be when we were kids, especially when it came to our grandparents. It got to the point where I was becoming a habitual liar through my teen years, and I catch myself feeling a compulsion to do it in really random situations where a lie wouldn't help or make a situation easier in any way.

I now have a hard time believing her when she tells me anything, which sucks, but beside that glaring flaw, she is the nicest woman you'll ever know.

Greenbaydev ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:47:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to say "milk" properly, for whatever reason I always pronounced it "melk"

chiaracalien ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:53:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being religious. All of my questions about god and christianity were basically answered by saying: "You must be faithful". Now I'm 18 and agnostic and they force me to go to church for Christmas and Easter. They even get upset if I don't pray during the ceremony.

blackeyedkids ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:54:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to unlearn that growing up with an alcoholic parent who was prone to abusive behavior was not "normal." This realization came later in life when I started hanging out with my friends and was introduced to their families, and noticed many of them lacked any issues related to substance abuse. I know not every family is perfect, but this was a real shock to me because I thought everyone dealt with a parent who was always drunk and never fully "there." She often blamed my siblings and father for her drinking problem. I couldn't have a conversation with her without her going into a rant if I said something she disagreed with. One of the subjects we did not agree on was religion, as I am Atheist and she is a Christian. This spurred many arguments when I was younger and my dad wasn't home (if he had been, he would've been pissed as he is an Atheist, as well, and my parents had apparently agreed to let us find our own path in life.)

Another thing I learned was that because I was overweight, that did not mean everyone was just "jealous" of me. My mother (the one with the substance abuse problems) always had this excuse ready when I told her people made fun of me at school because of my weight. My parents weren't very active, though I had been for a majority of my childhood. To combat this, I wanted to get involved in sports at school or go out and get involved in the neighborhood, but my mom was always drunk. I was the oldest of three kids and my dad was always working and never home. So, some of the childrearing responsibilities fell to me. I did tell myself that other people were just jealous of me and that the issue wasn't with me, it was with them. Though, I had issues with depression over my weight for a long time, I just had enough one day and started taking the matter into my own hands. I went to the gym several days a week, adjusted my diet, and dropped 60 lbs. I am now happy with the person I have become. My mom is still a drunkard, but I have removed myself from taking responsibility for her lifestyle. I have trouble talking to her, now, because of how her actions affected me growing up. The examples above are just a tip of the iceberg when it comes to all of the things I had to teach myself for lack of a responsible (and present) guardian in my childhood.

cjjharries ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:55:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When you commit to something you have to go through with it to the end, even if you know it will end badly.

Zackadeez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:56:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Over cooking meat. My mom always said cook chicken and beef enough to kill bacteria. When I met my wife she wondered why my chicken was dry and over cooked

SpiderHandsMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:57:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"S-T-O-P. That spells 'home'"

themastermindz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:58:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Vengeance and retaliation. My mom is petty as fuck.

Xellyfaice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:58:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was taught by a teacher when I was very young that cereal is actually just pencil sharpenings. It wasn't until about 10-12 years later that the idea came up again that I realized how wrong it was.

xylotism ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:00:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's never okay to look someone in the face. Turns out people don't like it when you don't look at them while they're talking.

pixiemarti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:01:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Driving

Billy-_-Bob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:01:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's OK to have to wear medium mens clothes when you are a 10 year old kid.

It took me years to realise that I was not 'just chunky' and I had to lose to listen to what the bmi scale said and get out of the obese zone and into the healthy weight zone.

ThePaleCast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:03:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That if you ate cherries, you couldn't drink water for a couple of hours, or risk a sudden colic. That was terribly serious for us, when we were kids, and have never since heard of it.

AyeMyHippie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:03:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eating an entire plate of food, even if you're full. Growing up, my parents always encouraged me to continue eating until everything on my plate was gone, even if I said I was full. If it hadn't been for the opiate addiction I developed during my sophomore year, I probably would have ended up graduating as one of those morbidly obese kids.

1makfly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:04:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To this day I don't eat mushrooms because our grandparents told my cousin and me (we often spent our school holidays together at their house) that some mushrooms are poisonous and that you can die from eating them. You wouldn't know until like a day later when people who ate them wouldn't wake up because they died in their sleep. Honestly, as much as I like to joke around and troll people. I will never tell my kids such horror stories...

elilovesreddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:06:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was raised in alabama, and my mother is very traditionally southern. I didn't so much have to LEARN this, but I did have to meet a few black people to understand that color shouldn't breed animosity or fear.

morningsunshine420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:07:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That flip-flops are uncomfortable. Was in my 40's by the time I first tried them and am never looking back!

Merkjr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:07:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't remeber, i had to unlearn it

Marquis77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:08:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not responding to adverse situations with anger. Still working on it.

yoman632 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:08:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not to take risks.

SashWhitGrabby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:10:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That steaks were meant to be enjoyed rare or medium rare. My mother always cooked them to done. Never enjoyed a real steak until I was an adult.

tankgirl85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:14:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

the correct way to say worchester sauce

croissantxc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:32:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But not how to spell it! It's Worcestershire.

tankgirl85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:08:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yepp I cant say it or spell it. They taught me it was pronounced war-chester-shire. I only realized in liguistics class when I found it spelled phonetically, that it was all lies.

Gooah kamolee IRL

GrizzyUnderwood33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:15:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I always didn't have to ask for food before eating it.

PuzzledKitty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:15:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not to ask for help, especially if you need it.

If you were a male and couldn't solve your problems yourself, you just had to try harder or be ridiculed an then try harder.

Edit: A word

screediius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:15:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A personality disorder

jazzdaman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:16:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Censoring the word "Morphin'" from "Mighty morphin' power rangers" was to protect kids like me from getting into hard drugs. Malaysia ftw. I unlearned this in college in Singapore and my friends had a good laugh.

penguyenpi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:16:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That mental illness is not real and should be frowned upon. I was raised in Asian culture and I used to always wondered how people could be so ridiculous and have suicidal thoughts and excess anxiety...

Until I went through 3 years of depression and was also diagnosed with an anxiety disorder

SiberDrac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:16:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In my house growing up I learned to always keep my emotions in check. Older brother and younger sister were constantly in combat with my parents, and there were no lasting benefits to be gained from joining in on anyone's side, as I learned from a number of failed attempts.

Fast forward through two relationships with women who were frequently upset with me for being hard to read, until finally I dated a guy (off-topic: recently ended) who was even more opaque than I was. Between observations of him and conversations with him, I'm finally learning the importance of being emotionally open and how very useful it can be. 'cuz goddamn was there a lot bottled up when I was a teenager, and it didn't do me an ounce of lasting good to keep it there.

TheOzZzO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:18:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was told that just because someone is blood related to me and I called him/her family, they would be "on my side" or "protecting me". Had to learn the hard way family is not to be taken for granted and that relationships are built and not DNA given.

pugzly8765 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:18:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not to talk to strangers, some of my best friendships came from talking to strangers.

Layla_rld ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:18:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That feeling just a little bit cold would get you sick. My parents and all my family believes that even a slight cold breeze could give you the flu! We leave in a place where the temperature is always between 45-65 degrees. It's always a bit cold, but never too cold. Nevertheless, I was never allowed to leave the house with a big winter jacket. After learning some of the basics about germs my whole world changed! I'm not afraid of cold or the AC anymore.

zachbleek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:18:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Probably racism

keenly_disinterested ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:19:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism.

Vuph2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:19:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So this is why society is messed up, our parents are retarded

snorlax2991 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:19:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

socialism

McWaddle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:19:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Take all you want, but eat all you take.

Flexeggutor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:20:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Watching too much TV won't make my eyes turn into squares.

Warped_Fate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:20:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism and Homophobia

uturn88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:20:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus

MrMessyAU ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:23:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Perfectionism although it wasn't so much taught to me as it was imprinted.

My social anxiety is linked and I'm a highly strung/stressed person as a result.

Seeing a psychologist has helped immensely with both personal and work life. Probably around 30 sessions over several years. Luckily with Australian Medicare I get the majority back limited to 10 or 12 sessions per year.

sshukrun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:23:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shaving... I got it all wrong until youtibe showed me the proper way in my 20's

Catilina517 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:23:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eat dinner at 6 and go to bed at 9.

AgITGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:25:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hey, let me tell you that as you get older and have kids, if that is something you want, that eat early and go to bed early become extremely attractive ideas.

Catilina517 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:09:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh, I don't doubt that.

xkcd_puppy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:23:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God.

Just_a-car_guy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:23:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I looked good.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:24:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't sue people. I'm a lawyer.

BaldyBalls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:26:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eating all the food on my plate!

MystyDikship ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:26:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That kids are people too, and at a certain age, parents really should listen to what their children are saying. Not all kids are attention grabbing, lie telling, over exaggerating little drama monsters.

Kids have ideas, feelings, and pain just like adults. I almost died as a child because I was told I didn't know what pain was, and there was no way my stomach could hurt that bad. That mixed with dozens of other incidents really messed with me growing up. l always felt like I was unable to have an opinion, or feel differently, and this made it incredibly difficult to speak up, open up, or be myself for years.

Shoag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:26:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom used to tell us that if we ran the vacuum cleaner over the cord that the vacuum cleaner would explode. I thought this to be true until I was 15 or so.

Rastryth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:27:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That its ok to hit children.

infinitytrees ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:28:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

All of my family belongs to a christian nondenominational church. It is literally the definition of a cult. Its been a long hard road to recovery.

Just-Shoot-Me ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:28:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to tell time.

I was six and they were teaching me to tell time on an analog clock. Christmas of the year I finally figured it out, they got me a watch that tells time backwards. Now I can only tell time counterclockwise.

swordsmithy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:29:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Loving someone and needing someone were the same thing.

shootblue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:29:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That if everything you do isn't perfect, that you aren't a failure.

SoulFire6464 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:29:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom always told me "Just ignore them, they'll leave you alone."

They didn't, and I learned that a bloody nose was a far better option.

DarkTony_21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:29:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Parents always taught me that life is better without confrontation. Life is not better without confrontation if you let people walk over you, they will do so in a heartbeat.

tank_26 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:29:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You don't HAVE to finish everything on you're plate.

womtoolsey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:30:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That "why" should never be asked to someone with authority over you

TheDoxxer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:30:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What a real portion of food looks like...

Sadly, I didn't unlearn that until I was in my early twenties...

Herbivore69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:30:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eating meat.

iaro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:30:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To finish everything on my plate

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:32:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They taught me to hug people who made my creep meter ring off the charts because it wasn't polite if you didn't hug them when greeting them.

We had this one relative who was just creepy all the way around and every time he would come visit my parents would make my sisters and I hug him. Years later I find out that my sisters were also creeped out by him as much as I was. We confronted my mom about him and she admitted she was creeped out by him, too! Ug.

I had to learn to not make my own kids greet anyone with hugs if they didn't want to.

JaseWilliamson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:32:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Apparently my Dad did not teach Maradona how to play football.

BigGrizzDipper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:32:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

TIL some people haven't eaten anything besides their parents shitty cooking until they went to college, no restaurants ever

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:33:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Putting a plastic bag over your head kills you.

Wickedkitten ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:34:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That family are the only people that matter and that the right mentality is to let them run right over you.

fixintoblow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:34:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I am responsible for everyone else's happiness.

Lexus_dude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:34:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to roll a joint.

Four detoxes later, still not sober.

Hi, I'm Lexus_dude, and I'm an alcoholic.

givesblowjobs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:34:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Believe it or not, I'm not the most amazing person on the planet, and sometimes I CANT make all my dreams come true. Dammit.

bozzy253 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:34:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My Texas accent.

DoubleDuke101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:35:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents raised me to be independent - however they enforced it just a little to much and now my independence is my greatest fault. 20 something years later and I'm slowly learning that sometimes its ok to rely on others or ask for help, whether its at work or just asking bf to hang the laundry out.

clevverguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:36:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God.

wessex464 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:36:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Always eat all your food because there are starving kids in blah. This habit is still with me and I eat because it's in front of me long after I'm full some of the time. It makes weight control difficult.

Leighbees ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:36:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism. Definitely old school ignorant southern racism. I unlearned that shit at my first independent thought as a child.

archreminiscence ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:39:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bottling emotions and then taking it out on people is okay.

Money is tight around home and whenever mom is stressed she treats people like shit. I know these actions are toxic and it's not okay to hurt people like this, but recently I found that I have the same habit. I'm trying to correct it. I already lost someone important to me because of it, though. I don't exactly know how to unlearn this. I think I am focusing more on not showing how upset I am to people at all which is just more bottling; I need to find a way to redirect stress and anxiety into something positive. Maybe exercising might do me some good.

animeinme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:43:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

exmuslimvideo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:44:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

Blazediken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:45:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Literally everything.

jaymef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:45:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

eating sugary food/drink

originalread ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:45:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some assorted tidbits from my wife include having to cook eggs till they turn to powder and flipping out on me for opening the dishwasher while on. She thought it filled completely with water.

Unit88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:46:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not something they taught me, but what I've inherited personality-wise. They're all full of themselves, constantly talking behind everyone's backs (mostly each other's) or shouting at each other, and acting like the world just hates them, even though we're not poor at all.

It took a lot of work for me to become a decent person, but I'm quite proud of who I've become over the years.

wellpaidscientist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:47:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That everything's always fine.

I_gotta_load_on ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:47:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wish I had something to unlearn, they didn't teach me anything.

GoodDecision ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:47:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

All the nutrients and vitamins are in the crust of the bread

thehigginses19 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:47:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That winning isn't everything

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:51:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

broke_gamer_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:52:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That god was real

therxninja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:53:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My friend came out of the bathroom one day and asked where the "poop knife" was. Seems his family kept a knife next to the toilet to cut your longer turds so they flush easier. He had no idea that wasn't a thing

I was in college at the dorm cafeteria getting breakfast when I realized that most people don't eat breakfast cereal with a wooden spoon and from a salad bowl so filled with cereal you have to hold it down and pour milk through your fingers so it didn't spill over.

Kendirck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:54:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism...

used2bflds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:54:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Polygamy.

Avvikke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:55:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

...everything

Dredd1050 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:55:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mild, but present racism. Smh. That generation really is clueless.

Bsquareyou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:56:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to be messy and unorganized. It is infuriating going to their house.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:57:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Southern accent

samtheflamingo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:01:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents were emotionally abusive and neglectful. Whenever I'd bring up an example of said neglect, they'd always gaslight me (tell me my experiences never happened/happened differently.) Now I'm Schizophrenic and Bipolar with no sense of self and I don't believe any of my memories. So I guess I haven't unlearned it, but I hope I can someday.

Oktulsa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:03:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother told me "observative" Was a word. Took me 20 years to stop using it

MathW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:03:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Alligators have all dem teeth, but no toothbrush.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:04:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Treating Argonians poorly.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:07:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Too many to list, but the one that gave me a lot of trouble was that if people are not early when you have plans or at the least on time they do not respect you because they do not respect your time. In perspective, this is okay, but my mom thought any time someone was a minute late they completely disrespect her as a human.

uberguby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:07:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can't solve your problems by buying things

donrmcclure63 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:08:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Never forget

mindban ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:08:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Negative reinforcement

NeedsNewPants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:08:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To hate myself. Currently on the unlearning phase right now.

Zeac02 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:09:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That being happy doesn't mean doing what others want you to do, it means doing what you want to do regardless of what others think of your Decisions.

FracturedAnt1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:09:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"You can be successful at anything you put your mind to"

AlphaDub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:09:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My attitude.

Timedonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:09:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The Great Lie, that marijuana is a dangerous drug. The most common high school essay is, 'Why is Marijuana Illegal'. The kids do research and find out that the pot laws are really a front for ignorance and Racism. The pot issue is the worst lie because that causes young folk to start thinking about what else maybe a lie.

Aftermathe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:10:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That putting hamburger on pizza doesn't qualify it as sausage. It's still just hamburger dad.

codblopsII ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:10:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That talking to girls is bad, mmkay, and you shouldn't do it till 18. Now I'm 33 and still have trouble having platonic conversation with girls. I'm a guy BTW....crazy frickin world

milobrain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:10:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad taught me that I had to do jobs I didn't enjoy

idiotconcert ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:10:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The Jesus stuff

_MisterStylish_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:11:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism.

Forky7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:11:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom accidentally used reverse psychology to make me a messy person. My mom has always been very clean and super strict. If there are a couple clothing items on the ground and my bed isn't made, she gets mad at me and calls it a "horrifying mess". Her strictness has had the opposite effect that she wants. When my parents are out of town I enjoy letting the house get messy and leaving clothes and dishes everywhere. I also enjoy not listening to her and doing the opposite of what she wants me to do. If she tells me to do something, I wait a long time to do it so when I do it, I make the decision to. It's all very immature of me but feeling the desire to do these things is pretty involuntary.

Jaspii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:11:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Judging others

Doctor_Philgood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:12:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Was always told people don't change. I did. My folks never did. They just got more alone, more sad, and more stubborn. My mother has a closed head injury, and is wasting away and drinking booze instead of getting any physical or mental help. I would do anything to show her she can change and make her life better.

MrWillard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:12:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

I won't go to hell if I drink.

I won't go to hell if I lie.

I won't go to hell for having sex.

I'm 35. Still a daily struggle.

generallos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:12:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That i have nut allergy. Yes, my father and brother are allergic, and there's a possibility that it might break out in me too if i over-indulge, but as a snack or in a meal it's totally harmless. I'm a grown ass man and i have never experienced any problems with eating nuts. I don't know how many school teachers, surveys and employers i have forwarded this lie to.

whattashirt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:12:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That murderers and rapists are around every corner, and I'd be in grave danger from just stepping outside.

It came from a good place, but I think searching every room for intruders after getting home was a little excessive. I wish I'd been allowed to play outside more, instead of being terrified of every little thing.

puddingllama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:12:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That blue and cars are only for boys and pink and barbies are only for girls - the only way i could get a toy car to play with was if it was pink and heaven forbid boys played with dolls and babies, they must have had bad parents.

BoozeFreeBlender ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:12:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That's its ok for someone to be upset with you and it's normal to talk about how you feel.

NotAFemaleRedditor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:13:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Submission to the point that I did not have any backbone and was taken advantage of into my adult years. Now I'm a selfish asshole. Thanks mom and dad.

le_sacre ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:13:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That being "low blood sugar" (none of us being diabetic) excuses a bad/irritable mood, and means it's medically advisable to eat something.

Ifureadthisyoulldie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:13:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I was a Christian....

cgallo22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:13:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents taught me to tie my shoes with bunny ears. It wasn't until college when everyone told me how weird that was that I still did that and l changed to the more acceptable loop-swoop-and-pull method. In my own twisted sense of irony I just taught my daughter to tie her shoes with bunny ears two days ago. I can't wait to see how long it takes her to figure out the other way.

nofapgd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:14:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that some things you just have to believe or have faith in. no thanks, rational thinking is the way to go!

Sean-Vicious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:14:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am the kind of parent I never had. My father was selfish and self centered, mild mannered and pretentious, rude and neglectful, abusive and disrespectful, over burdening and angry, mean and impatient... I treat my children the exact opposite way.

My mother abandoned me as a child, stayed addicted to drugs, married her drug dealers every time she got a new one, had no back-bone, was immature and irresponsible, blind and lied to herself in order to pretend everything was okay, lived and raised me on welfare her whole life, was disorganized and unsuccessful, and let me do whatever I wanted because she cared more about keeping me happy rather than being a responsible adult... I raise my kids the opposite way.

I don't know how I even have the capacity and ability to be the person and parent I am considering how I was raised, but all I know is that if I always do the exact opposite of what ive been taught my whole life, I just cant go wrong as a parent!

Lordsputnick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:14:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom said growing up Sunday's were bath days. My grandma wouldn't let her shower, only bath and once a week. I'm glad my mom didn't think it was a good idea.

Its_ZeoN ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:14:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Always do what teachers tell you."

Gexgekko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:15:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I should accept anything that comes from my family just because they are my family. You having the same blood as me don't give you the right to be a fucker and don't makes me have to be friendly with your fuckery.

Arcturus_Vega ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:15:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Respect for bullshit

Edit: now that I think of it, they never really did. I always displayed my dislike to something unfair and their methods only hurt me, not taught me.

ASCIt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:15:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had that 'television will ruin your eyes' bit drilled into my head, yet here I am at 23 sitting Two feet from my computer monitors

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:22:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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ASCIt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:30:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well granted, my vision is currently 10/100, but I sure you everything is fine.

I_AM_JIM_CARREY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:15:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That Jesus was real

PM_ME_YOU_HORNY_SLUT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:15:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Opening doors for women or doing other things for them just because they are girls.

They also told me to be extremely polite, and that doesn't work in life.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:15:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Respect your elders". Just automatically, straight up, no questions asked, respect your elders and "Don't talk back or defy your elders" or "Children should be seen and not heard". Every time I read a story about someone being sexually molested and were too afraid to tell their parents, I just automatically assume they were threatened with one of those.

4567898761 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:16:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To eat EVERYTHING on my plate.. Tp this day i struggle to stop eating when I feel full..

And then there's snakes.. I cannot stand even looking at a photo of a snake. Mom told me if I went over to play on the hill way behind our house that snakes lived there and would get me..

MakeupNoob03 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:16:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Narcissism

serArthur_Dayne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:16:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't talk to strangers.

simoro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:18:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That talking about sex, being gay, and essentially anything that isn't heteronormative and related to making babies are all wrong.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:18:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Don't you dare think you know everything. You're not the smartest person" every time I try to speak up my opinion or give advice.

To give the context, what my parents meant was "you should obey me and don't you dare giving me any critique on something that I know more than you". After years living with them and witnessing the consequences of their action, I've realized that they're the ones who don't want to listen to others' advice and opinion. And when they get criticized by someone whose position is lower, they'd act like "Oh yeah? So you think you're so mighty and smarter than me?? Don't be arrogant and mind your own business.". This lowered my self-esteem because I thought I was an arrogant bastard for voicing my mind.

Growing up with that mindset, I didn't receive critique well .To make it worse, my words sound very harsh when I criticized someone. I also learnt that you don't have to be smarter to give an advice. If child can point out something that adults normally overlook (which is very common!), why should we overreact when some guy pointing out our mistake?? Which mean, if you receive a critique, it doesn't mean you are less worthy, stupid or useless!!

Knowing that, I feel more open minded. Great knowledge doesn't have to come from greater person, it can be acquired from someone normal or less intelligent than you if you're willing to listen to them.

JackSeption ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:20:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was younger they tired to tell me that cannabis is just as deadly as meth, good thing I found out for myself.

fawncashew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:22:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Never spend too much money on cars...

Peekatchu1994 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:22:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I don't always have to do without so others can have. Fuck, that one is hard to unlearn.

FunkyFireStarter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:22:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is a pretty innocent one... had to learn that a steak that is still a bit pink on inside isn't undercooked and isn't going to make you sick.

My mom legit thought we could get food poisoning and die if the pork or steak she was making for us was at all pink on the inside... and she was half right. You can get trichinosis from undercooked pork, though death is very unlikely.

It wasn't until I was like 15 and at a restaurant with some friends, ordered a steak well done, came out about medium and pinkish on the inside that I learned otherwise. My friends actually had to explain that not only is this perfectly safe, its going to taste a lot better too! Damned if they weren't right.

angryeyebrows ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:22:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I can be whatever I want to be.

Obsidian28 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:24:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That people are more successful (measured by wealth) than I am because they work harder and longer than I do.

Oh, and never, ever take a risk. Even a known or calculated risk. No one successful ever did that.

donutmcownage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:24:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Never Lie!

radford_6920 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:26:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mormonism..

matt73044 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:26:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

Chinlc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:28:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I tried to stop this, but I always call clams, "mouth" and dog as "dogdog," it makes more sense (Maybe) in chinese =/

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:29:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That their opinion on something is not going to be the same as mine. One example, they both hate sushi and thought it was the grosset thing on the history of the planet, I try it and LOOOOVE it, but I never got to ewt it as a teen since my parents and brother all hate it. Same with beer, mom said beer was gross and don't drink it, dad takes me to a nice bar and gets me some craft beer when I turned 21 and it was good.

knox_vile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:29:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"If all your friends jumped off a bridge, would you do it too?"

If my friends committed an act of mass suicide. I'd probably get pretty depressed and possibly suicidal.. So yeah I might.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:29:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sometimes it's OK if you don't eat all the food on your plate.

Thouars- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:29:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Toilet seat should be down when you're done using it.

I learned in boot camp pretty fast to leave it up.

Sleepless_Devil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:29:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Respect.

Take that, world!

sqec34115 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:30:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eating fast. Used to take a while for each meals when younger. Then started swallowing food to please parents

Still trying to slow down eating

ZangerDwn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:30:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm always doing something wrong.

MsABQ323 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:30:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That a small body of water, like a stream, is called a "crook," not a "crick."

TherapeuticMessage ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:40:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:46:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
MsABQ323 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:04:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Maybe I was thinking of creek and brook and came up with "crook." LOL

MsABQ323 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Good grief, I apparently wasn't awake when I posted this! I meant "creek."

realerthanreal420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:31:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

From my mom: you can't please everyone and you shouldn't waste energy trying to. Nonetheless, she's definitely a great hostess.

From my dad: Nobody wants to fight. Nobody wants to argue. Nobody wants to make something of the stony gaze from some six foot tall swarthy dude. There's no bad people waiting around the corner, and just about anything can be dealt with respect and courtesy rather than wrath and rancor. My father was a sad, raging man and he believed people in general were as sad and angry as him. Fuck that. People are decent. I mean, the top rated comment is about fucking baggy clothes. It's mundane, but it's nice! It shows not everyone had such a shitshow life growing up.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:32:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Table salt. Gtfo

IrishSpectreN7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:33:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eating habits. I was conditioned to desire fast food in favor of home-cooked meals. Thanks for the Mcdonalds and Burger King every day, mom.

teh_mexirican ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:33:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

HeavyBananna924 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:33:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it doesn't matter how other people think of you. As long as you are a good person and do the right thing, other people's opinions are void. Always having to worry and carry yourself in a way in which you think would make a normal and good impression on people is exhausting. Be true to yourself. And as long as you're not being an asshole and killing people on the streets, don't worry about becoming something other people want to see. Be you. Always.

PositivityByMe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:33:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Shitty money.

My mom was/is terrible with money, and I feel like I'm starting so much farther away because of it.

Empty_Fist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:33:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hate

shoretel230 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:33:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Never stand up for yourself, or fightback. That the bigger person just leaves, especially if you're being bullied. I know much better now.

musesillusion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:34:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can actually trust people.

It's not legal to put utilities in a minor's name.

Not paying on credit cards doesn't make them magically go away.

Rootless existence is not ideal.

Bline ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:34:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That laundry detergent would burn me if I got any of it on my skin. My father told me this so I wouldn't want to help him with the laundry as I had always made a mess.

CharSpitsFire ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:34:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad taught me to always treat authority with respect, and to call people by "sir" or "ma'am", but my boss hates being called "sir".

jk01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:34:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not me but my girlfriends mother taught her how to steal

rockstang ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:35:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

try to give your kids chicken pox. She's a nurse for fucks sake.

B_P_G ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That was a thing for a long time. Prior to the vaccine chicken pox was thought to be inevitable and you were better off getting it at a younger age. The odd thing is people were still doing that shit when I was a kid in the 80s/90s. The vaccine was being used overseas at the time and came to the US in 1995. If we could have held off a few more years...

rockstang ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:40:41 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly, I had my chickenpox party in the late 80's. However, now I have shingles to look forward too.

Johndoesmith67 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:36:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sex is bad and unholy out of marriage and the natural science of puberty and testosterone is to be replaced by God fearing and entering marriage in order to have sex.

Johndoesmith67 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:37:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I could go on and on and on, both conservative christians with my mom being raised from birth till about 25 as a Jehovahs witness.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:36:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You have to be offered before you can take from other people. This included going out with friends. For example, my friend would be talking about an event he's going to, and he wouldn't explicitly ask me to join. I had to unlearn my parents rule, and learn how to ask if I could join. I think this rule was in place for my own safety more than anything, as my parents never really scolded me for braking this rule in front of them.

Washburne221 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:36:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the solution to every interpersonal problem was going to your room and thinking about what you've done. It's weird how all that being alone and not talking to people didn't help my social skills.

Shakkol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:36:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the books your mom reads is more important than you.

just_that_one_kid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:37:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that people dont have to argue ever, especially in relationships. Never directly said, but nobody in my family ever fought or argued, and so thats how i grew up. thanks to my girlfriend of years know that arguing and getting into a fight can sometimes be a great method to let out your frustrations, and that even though you might get upset with each other it doesnt mean you dont love each other

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:37:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wear a size 11 show and not a size 10 (UK sizes)

And I've a 31" leg and not a 32".

Most item of clothing I've ever bought never fitted me well.

slothywaffle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:37:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Leaving wet hair on your back will give you pneumonia. I'm still a little weird about it, but just out of habit

kymreadsreddit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:37:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eating everything on my plate, even if I wasn't hungry anymore. As an adult, I'm overweight and have a really hard time leaving food on my plate because I feel like its wasteful. Trying to break that it's a continuing struggle.

Lolgabs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:37:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

racism and homophobia

thepaddlegal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:38:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Prejudice.

be_an_adult ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:39:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to act towards others. My father especially is just rude, so I'm working on being kinder to people I meet

coldkidcoco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:39:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

goddamit_adam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:39:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that I'm not a horrible person. That I deserve love and affection. That there's nothing wrong with who I am

yeah, my mom's abusive

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:40:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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nolabrum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:45:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hey man. I hope you are playing about the killing yourself part. My parents were fucked up also. And made my life hell. but at the end of the day you are beautiful and you matter. And if you feel like you don't matter to someone you matter to me. I don't know how Reddit works or if you can private message someone. But if you need someone to talk to hit me up.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:40:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Un-learning the will to give my life to Allah while fighting the infidels was hard as f**k.

sjz059 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:40:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In the process of learning to be positive. They always taught look at things like "what did i do wrong" instead of "how can we fix this". Or just in general constant negativity

heyi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:40:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To hate myself.

MikeLitorus69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:41:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I went to a Lutheran elementary school. Being that Lutherans were the first branch to break off from Catholisism, I grew up thinking that Catholics were evil people until like middle school. I guess I still do but for different reasons lol. Also, once in 3rd grade I drew a picture on the chalkboard of some Jewish people jumping off a cliff and falling into hell and the whole class, teacher, and principal thought it was hilarious. Wtf

5natchAdam5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:41:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Talking to strangers.

Thanks internet.

Subgraphic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:42:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

UnusualSight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:42:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents are foreign so there are many words I had to relearn to pronounce lest i sound like a fool in public

PowerWordCoffee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:43:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If I use the phone or watch the tv during a thunderstorm I'd get electrocuted.

mafia_j ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:46:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My sister got a pretty good shock using the phone when lightning struck a pole in our backyard, though I doubt anyone would be on a corded phone anymore.

PowerWordCoffee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:35:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Actually my Dad just got rid of his old school corded rotary phone. I mean he still keeps it for nostalgia, but he's gone digital fully now.

RaffScrapz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:43:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Physical Abuse is okay at the Dinner Table.

a-elbereth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:43:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Buying pants that are too damn short, although it can be hard when you are 6ft tall female. I guess that's why my mother was so eager to get me to accept it bUT I SAY THEE NAY.

mroleary ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:44:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hot showers do not in any way help your sunburn heal. It just hurts.

RunwayJim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:44:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to feel guilt for almost everything. From things that were absolutely my fault to things out of any person's control to things absolutely under my parent's control. This may seem broad but it's a deep emotion I've had to fight my whole life. It's transformed into anxiety over the years.

Kingdrick_Lamar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:44:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That weed is bad

Despicable_Ne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:44:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm special.

Hainictor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:45:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That sharing my thoughts with others will always result with annoyance and a defensive attitude which then turns into an offensive attitude and then a normal conversation will always turn into a fight.

I swear, I'm still struggling with this, and it pisses me off because I get all meek and stuttery thinking I'm going to be attacked... just for communicating.

IndIka123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:45:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

drug use.

zfooking ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:45:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Reading the comments in this thread I noticed my teeth were clinched. Many of these are things I have experienced too.

SomeRandomPilotGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:46:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not to eat shit food all the time, my mom once said that stuffed pasta was healthy because of the tomato sauce on it... Also not to clean you plate at a meal, if you full stop eating.

I am still losing that weight.

Callahan333 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:46:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I lived for a while in Coos Bay OR. At that time it was a headquarters for the KKK. I had a lot of institutional racism to unlearn.

xxwasgoodxx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:46:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That when you're beautiful everything will be okay. My parents taught me this, and so did my entire family. I was never told that being smart was good, being funny was good, being honest was good, having talent is good.

formerlyknownasarjun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There's a lot, but one that comes to mind is that I was taught to be homophobic.

mathprof ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That god exists.

WideLoad98 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:49:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Driving.

LorthNeeda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:49:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Really bad spending habits

hurrymenot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:49:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Classism and racism.

PoliNerdy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:49:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That voting Republican was the best option

Darklord_Bravo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:17:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, my dad took me to the town hall to register to vote back in like 83, I think. When the clerk asked me what party, mad goes "Republican", and I'm like "No, Democrat." Regan was a buffoon to me, even then. My dad lost it. "Democrat?! No goddamn kid in my house is gonna be fucking Democrat! Jesus Christ...!" ect. as he stormed out of the building, and leaving me there to walk home. (My house was about 3 minutes away on foot.)

PoliNerdy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Geeze! Sounds like my dad! His Facebook page is a homage to Trump and makes me want to scream everytime I see the crap he posts.

Cambridge_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:50:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't trust black people.

I learned to not trust all people.

inozemetz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:50:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Shush, sit there and be quite! Nobody cares about your opinion."

Believing that kept me from getting ahead in school and later work because I would never participate in class, meetings or approach my teachers or supervisors about anything. I'm in my thirties now and finally starting to speak up and realize that I have something to contribute.

Artificecoyote ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You could be a motivational speaker. I'm sure lots of people have that sense and would appreciate hearing the thoughts of someone who broke out of that cycle

bearsandblankets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:50:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We had limited well water when I was growing up, "if it's yellow let it stay, if it's brown flush away". I sometimes still forget to flush after I pee.

paintedtiger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:51:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They taught me to use "borrow" for everything. It wasn't until I was probably 17 that I learned the difference between borrow and lend. I think it's a Minnesota thing.

Mdmoon210 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:51:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That marijuana is bad for you, but alcohol is OK.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:51:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Artificecoyote ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:58:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Is that because you dip stuff into the yolk?

GunshyEarth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Exactly

dobropicker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:52:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Bigotry. Growing up in the 50s I had to unlearn a lot of stuff my grandma and mom taught me by their attitudes towards non-whites.

itsbloodlustduh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:52:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That sex was bad and I should feel bad. Fuck catholic guilt

Dolebag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:53:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's important to "eat all your food" I don't think it's a good think to teach kids especially when you serve large helpings.

GreenTeaOnMyDesk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:53:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being part of a cult

Highclasshooker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:54:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We were never on-time ANYWHERE. I hated always showing up late. It took a while but now I'm always early for appointments and such. Don't teach your kids to be late

MaggotCorps999 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:54:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To give others respect even when they have absolutely no regard for me or others. Sorry, fucksticks, if my being kind to a stranger isn't returned in kind then all bets are off.

yerbzz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:56:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A bit of racism but I unlearned it early, and helped them unlearn it for the most part. They still have their moments though

LazyCourier ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:56:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That religion was everything.

I've read the bible cover to cover many times, prayed before meals and attended church every sunday, wednesday, and friday until I was 18.

I thought thats how the world worked. When I was 12 I found out there were other religions and even people without religions. I went to my friend's house and they all looked at me weird when I asked "aren't you gonna pray?"

My parents kept me on a religious island, alienating me from the rest of the world. If it wasnt christian, Id go to hell for it. Porn? Hell. Reality TV? Hell. Reading Tolkien? Hell. Listening to The Beatles? Son, that's a ticket to hell.

Around 16 I started to experiment with what life had to offer. At 18 I stopped going tk church altogether. Even now, at 20, I am still adjusting to my religion free life. It's really liberating to not be afraid to have fun.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:56:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism. I grew up in rural Texas and the reality I had to unlearn so I could function as an adult was unsettling. What they made seem normal...

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:57:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's always OK if I'm scared of doing something. I'm extremely shy and learning instead to always fight my own battles would've been much better.

gopherprincess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:57:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Prejudice.

ihadsexwithaunicorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:57:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Im sure im reposting but racism

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:58:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"NEVER touch a girl with your Weiner!"

I mean... Sometimes they ask for that.....

When I was 5 I had an adventurous neighbor who wanted to compare crotches. My mom found us and was mortified.

Seanoooooo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's pronounced house . Not hass

The_Alchemist- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom had taught me to not have faith in myself which took (still in progress) a lot of work to get over.

I would/will second guess myself in so many actions I take which is ridiculous. Took so long to get my confidence back.

mojoey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My unlearning is prejudice. I was taught horrible things about black people and Hispanics. None of it was true. This was all back in the 70s. The unlearning started early.

PorkPyeWalker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad told me my hair was curly because I wasn't washing the shampoo out properly. Endless rinsing and drying as you would imagine had little effect.

Ginger_Chick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That Maple syrup doesn't go in the fridge. I have no idea why my parents did this, and it took me until I was 20 and living with a boyfriend to realize that it was a bizarre thing to do.

uncoolcentral ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

" Eat everything on your plate"

Bwets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

LIFE! Ex JW here...

ParanormalVelocity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm 6'3" and weigh 120 pounds. My mother is convinced that I'm 10 to 20 pounds overweight, and spends most of the time I'm around her commenting on how fat I am. I'm still working on the body image issues. Thanks mom.

beigemore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:01:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad was always of a the opinion that when taking out a large loan, the only thing that's important is a low monthly oayment, even if it extends the loan by an extra year or two.

GypsyDotYoga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:02:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

EVERYTHING! When you grow up not understanding, it's not until you understand, that you actually grow up.

pooooooooo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:02:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to talk to girls

RacheyG91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:02:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom taught me to drive and told me that the side mirrors on the car were purely aesthetic and that nobody really used them.

C0rnmaze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom was convinced after watching Unsolved Mysteries that you should A) jump a foot in the air anytime you see lightning because of how many people it's hit, and B) never shower or use a faucet during a storm because you'll die of electrocution. I'll never forget the look on my gf's face when I explained my lack of desire to use the kitchen sink in a tiny drizzle. Fml.

queenofthe3rdfloor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My father told me for 19 years that I could not breathe under water. Learning to scuba dive was a nightmare.

Uwbymannen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

According to my parents, I will get gang raped by a bunch of pedophiles wherever I go. Dude, I am the most undesirable fuck you have and will ever meet. The only pedophiles who thought I was attractive must have been overdosing and in the state of near death.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"You don't GET TO FEEL (sad, angry, hurt, disappointed, and occasionally even happy)" Verbatim actually.

Actually mom and dad, I get to feel whatever way my brain chemistry is making me feel and I'll work out my reactions based on the small amount of emotional intelligence I have eked out of the world myself.

ammuica ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Political views.

Chanteclairix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Homophobia

rightwing321 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have been in 2 fender benders in my life, both when I was in a car that my mom was driving, and both times I saw it coming long before she did... So I've gotta go with "pay attention to the goddamn road".

fozzyfreakingbear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:07:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh. Racism.

Spawnacus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:08:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Don't help people on the street. If they wanted help, there's plenty of programs that can help them."

Take it that's not considering mental illness and addictions.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:08:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That doctors aren't actively trying their hardest to kill you. Mum told us this our whole lives. She also told us that doctors killed our grandma and grandpa on purpose (they both died slowly of cancer). What a fucked up thing to tell little kids.

We both grew up with a fear of doctors until we realized that it didn't make any sense that a whole profession would be legally based around exterminating others. I had to get loads of vaccinations going to college because I had never had ANY (our parents never took us to the doctor). And Mum of course told us that our cousin's autism was from the evil doctors and their vaccines. And whenever I talked back she told me I was possessed by a demon.

I could go on forever.

hdksjhgjsnx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:08:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Asking for anything from my parents is wrong and selfish but I should do anything they ask of me. No matter what.

Relichunter18 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:08:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Some of these are pretty gloomy. My dad told me that he invented the game of baseball when I was a little kid, and I believed him until like the third grade. I think a gym teacher had to break the truth to me.

CloseCannonAFB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:09:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

"If (whoever) is bothering you, just ignore them and they'll go away. If you show a reaction they win."

My sister is a few years older than me and used to pick on me nonstop. I think they told me that rather than try and stop her, because I was a more malleable kid. I was bigger and have a quick temper, and from maybe the age of 8 could put a serious hurting on her.

IRL, that's a recipe for a passive, doormat motherfucker. It crept pretty deeply into my personality, I've had to relearn that it's sometimes fine to lose my shit right away.

PM_Me_Y0ur_B00bie5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:09:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

ICanWittleALittle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:10:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Adults don't always know what's right. The older I get, the more I realize; we ALWAYS think we've got life figured out. I'm a bit more wise (and jaded) than some of the 50 year old men I work with... who think they've got life figured out.

smoothcoat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom had a lot of these weird things. She was deathly afraid of fire. She hated candles. She hated matches. I used to collect match books from restaurants and what not and she put them in a sealed glass jar and was still afraid.

If you didn't unplug the toaster the second you were done using it, she'd freak out. She was convinced falling asleep in bed with the tv on was bad for you because of radiation. For a while she used to unplug tvs after watching tv.

Don't get me started on her cooking! Oh the horror.

CamaroNurse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

We lived in the country and my parents don't realize it but they're essentially socialist, pagan hippies. Anyway, I totally thought everyone's home was filled with creatures great and small (we didn't even mind the ants) and that weeds weren't a big deal, they weren't hurting anything. Also using your neighbor's horse's crap as fertilizer is fine.

Moving to a place with an HOA has forced me to completely change my view on all of these things. (I need permission to plant a tree, damn it. My dad and I planted trees for fun all of the time!)

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hmm, the short list: racism,homophobia,sex is filthy and bad,art is a joke,liberal ideals poison the mind,alcohol is not a drug,women are property/weak/only good as secretaries or teachers,emotion is not to be shared,mental illness should be hidden...i'm just getting started but I'll spare you the rest.

DirtyD69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That im not a lazy piece of shit for wanting a day off every once in a while.

That it's ok to have different priorities and interests from my dad.

That mental health is a real thing.

Spite isn't ok.

And that I'm not weak or dainty. I'm actually a tough ambitious, motherfucker thanks to you dad so thanks

neighburrito ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That all Black and Latinos were thugs and we should never interact with any of them.

Robinwolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to be a boy/man.

15daysofpizza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Newfoundland and LABRADOR ISLAND. LABRADOR ISLAND!!!!

arinarmo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:12:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Showing up at the time you were told, especially when going to other people's houses.

I had to help with so many party preparations...

jayboogie15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mostly, everything. With the risk of being unfair to my parents, I grew mostly by myself my later childhood and teenage and needed to learn (and still learning) EVERYTHING about life by myself. With them, I learned that I could keep going through the motions on everything. So, when my girlfriend got pregnant and I had to start regular-people-life, the struggle was enormous to the point I ended up with a huge depression. I am not guilting them for that but some important everyday behaviours were so embedded on myself that I really needed to learn new ways of dealing with almost everything.

secretcrazy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom told me I couldn't use any scented products because I would probably have an allergic reaction to them. :/

zippythezigzag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Save the best for last.

omguraclown ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother convinced me that cities were terrifying, violent, lawless places, where you'd be mugged or murdered in minutes if you walked a few blocks on your own.

When I turned 18 and moved to a city, I would wander for days across miles and miles of city just to revel in how fascinating and sustaining it was for me instead.

Jelese111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not an actual lesson.. But my mom was a very good mom who cooked for us and cleaned for/with us all whole working 40-50hrs a week. So now that I'm a wife and mother it's taken me time to adjust to not have my mom there to help take care of everything... Though she does still come over once in awhile and clean with me.

martianpictures ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the most important thing is what others think about you - not what you think or what you want. My mother is 81 years old and still worries about this.

SconnieLite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:14:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When the tough gets going, quit. e.g., divorce. Walking out on things when life gets rough isn't how you deal with situations. Sometimes, somethings require a hell of a lot of effort and strength to see through, and that's okay. Our decisions to do so may have a long lasting impact on others around me in a very negative way.

Just to clarify, some marriages, like abusive ones, are probably better off just ending.

moleware ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity.

King_in_gold ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow ive only read like 2 posts and i already hate ur retarded parents

littlegayalien ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

i will always remember getting scolded for calling myself pretty when i was like 9. i know my parents were trying to ensure i wasn't going to grow up to be a narcissist or whatever but instead i just had a Complex that i was the Worst person ever if i thought anything positive about my appearance for years. i've mostly unlearned that mindset since then and believe in body positivity and all that shit but it's still fucked up lol

give-peace-a-chance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom and dad weren't from around where I grew up, so they said a few words differently than the locals (mostly wrong pronunciations). But I remember looking like a total idiot in elementary school because of how I pronounced cicada. My parents called them "ki-kay-dee-uhs" rather than "si-kay-duhs". I was so embarrassed and I secretly hated how other kids pronounced it so I just never used the word. Now I pronounce it properly.

Shycollegeslut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:15:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As a girl they taught me to fear rape/murder as an inevitable thing if I went anywhere alone.

I now know I won't die, or get raped...at least it isn't as likely as they had told me.

ApagogIatros ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christian worldview

delldavis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:16:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That when there's a thunderstorm you must, I say must, turn off all the lights and electrical appliances, light candles, and be deathly quiet. You should not go outside in the rain...YOU WILL GET STRUCK BY LIGHTNING.

B0SSMANFLEX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My Mom taught me that thunderstorms were Gods anger towards me for misbehaving and kissing girls makes them pregnant

KukiRM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"You can't because you are a girl"

Werter554 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to treat people. I had to learn to be unselfish.

AblTX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Finances. For example; "why pay for anything all at once when you can have more cash in your pocket now?" Once I realized how wrong that advice is, it took me years to pay down my debts.

sopwath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Basically anything to do with relationships, both romantic and platonic. How to handle money. I'm still trying to accept being good enough rather than feeling like a failure for not being perfect.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Money is scarce--once you spend it, it's gone forever.

sexy_atheist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion. Inherent unworthiness from birth. Internalizing shame over my body, and sexuality. To plan my life around depending on men. Not sharing pain, secrets, or any real emotion.

oeco123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you can't -2 from 1. Mathematical liars.

bigfattyfatkid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Leaving the lights on saves electricity. No im not joking

star_bury ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being smart with money. They were (and are) painfully cheap. I spent years in bargain bin clothes and was teased mercilessly. Also, you need 3 pairs of bargain bin does to last the same length of time as a pair 3 times the price. My kids will never have to go through that. I'm still not extravagant by any stretch of the imagination, but I'm certainly a different kind of smart...

mateodos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:20:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pessimism. Still attempting to unlearn that at 27. I don't see it happening any time soon...

Psychoicy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother taught me that life was about acquiring certain possessions: job, car, house, spouse, and children. When I have all five, I was miserable and incredibly depressed. I went into therapy and read a couple good books, my new life model is: love, kindness, friendship, purpose and passion. I have never been happier.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I thought i wore a size fifteen shoe (mens USA). Turns out had WIDE feet. Size 13 4E wide. I. Ever knew shoes came in wide!

BoiledGoose108 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That they were good people.

shamesister ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My kid used his xmas money to do this for another kid when he was in second grade. I'm so proud.

JProllz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To fear and avoid dogs. In the country we immigrated from (I was 3 at the time we left) dogs just roam the streets and you don't know which are nice and which are vicious.

It surprisingly didn't take much to unlearn it.

Mccolleen82 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents' heavy Irish accents found all 5 of my siblings and myself in some form of speech therapy during grade school in Canada. We all had stints of a few years for different specific letter combinations. We always thought we were lucky to be called down to the office for our special instructional time slot with the speech therapist who was there almost exclusively for our family's benefit.

eyemadeanaccount ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just about any old urban legend or old wives tale/saying hr ever said. He truly believed that each one was true. Some sound logical, but they aren't true at all. I grew up learning this stuff. As I heard stuff and found stuff out, I'd tell him. He never believed me, even with backing it up with facts and sources. I stopped arguing with him years ago, and just accept the fact he's a stubborn idiot. We don't talk anymore, but for unrelated reasons.

dkarma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Itt: religion

djkmart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That if I wasn't successful in certain areas by the age of 25 (high paid job, house, car etc) that I was wasting my life on unrealistic goals. Basically, don't do what you want (and definitely don't get a job in the arts), do something that pays well.

Took losing his entire fortune and business for my dad to admit that success and happiness isn't measured by amount of money in your bank account. Unfortunately it's too late for me, and even though I ended up with a comfy job in the arts, I have to constantly force myself to push through the anxiety of feeling like I should've chosen a different path.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know I am late to the party, but I need to throw mine in.

I had to relearn that my feelings were valid. I grew up in a household where when my mom was sick it was an emotional rollar coaster and after she passed the financial rollar coaster we were then placed on was just as bad. If I would mention that anything bothered me or something angered me I was immediately shot down, "You think you have it bad, well I..." was always the response from my dad. He always had something going on that was worse and made his life seem horrid. I learned to just shut out my feelings. My current girlfriend has been helping me learn to open up, but it has been a difficult journey to even know what you're feeling when you've been forced to shut out your feelings.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

[serious] How to interact with people and problem solve. Also, no one is better than anyone.

My mom never used to talk about what was bothering her. She would internalize it and it would come out on us. Also, she constantly looks down on people because she feels a sense of worthlessness and minimizing others helps her feel better. I've Ernesto's tried to help her get counseling and medication. Maybe she'll concede one day.

MACpita ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:31:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

P3TAAMY ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents taught me to question every decision I made, instead of stand by my decisions and follow them through regardless of the result.

schmittyderbypants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism.

Thegodking ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:33:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity

WonderCounselor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That drinking alcohol isn't a requirement for having fun

Sr-wilson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I didn't explain my self cery well, she had "pots" in the house, I got tired of it, and trow it away, and when she find out, she make me bring it back, but it were really heavy, so next day I star going into labor, because she can just trow some darn old toys, she had more mess inside, that people doesn't see it.

toboner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:35:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To ALWAYS throw away food that has met its expiration date (or even sell by date for that matter) no matter what. Even if the food smelled, looked, and felt fine. Needless to say it was a wasteful household. Nowadays I hang onto food for dear life.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:35:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Money is everything. It is not

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ignore bullies. My god such horrible advice.

You have to fight back immediately. Even if you get your ass kicked, they won't want to fight you every time and will move on to easier targets.

handyjohnny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I had potential.

damukobrakai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

BiloxiRED ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the world wasn't going to end every time you made a mistake. I see my mom still doing this today and I feel sorry for her. Because it SUCKS thinking so negatively. Of course, it's taken years of therapy to start getting over it. Thanks Mom.

YolandiVissarsBF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm still working on being less naive. I was brought up in a very pie in the sky trust everybody sort of home.

It's weird to think back about some of your youth and seeing your parents as flawed human beings (like everyone is) and realizing where their mistakes affected you

Shaggz1297 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:39:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Spam came from New Jersey. I was in my early teens before I knew that New Jerseys #1 export was not, in fact, Spam. You assholes.

SisterRuth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:40:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you good, only good things are going to happen to you

cbarland ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:40:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents raised me calling me by my middle name, and telling my that my middle name is my first name. It was strange when I got a peek at my birth certificate and my name was all switched around.

Darklord_Bravo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:46:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God and Jesus from my mom. Sorry, but even from a very young age I had my own opinions on that. (Pure baloney) They haven't changed.

Politics and racism from my dad. He's pure right-wing conservative. I am not. In the middle of the Bush economic crash, he tried to tell me something, and I was only half-listening. I caught "George Bush is right...." and my immediate reaction was "Are you fucking kidding me?" So yeah. The good is, that he hates Trump with a passion, and Hillary as well. So he's not voting this year, except for local stuff.

Stiff_Zombie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the world is fair and good things happen to good people. That hard work is all you need to better your life. While the latter can be true, in my experience it's always been more about who you know.

KainX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Potty training. They taught me to use a conventional toilet. Now I defecate in a dry toilet and grow food from the food I ate. Best idea ever.

rawrvenger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:55:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Don't go to college, it's too expensive

Before: income:~$30,000

After: income with student loans:~$50,00/year-(~$5,000/year)=~$45,000

Sure Mom...

Edit:Added math

inzyte ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:59:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sex in the champagne room.

samanwilson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:05:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Drinking orange juice every morning is healthy because its natural.

deadbird17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:06:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're not leaving the table until you finish your entire plate. Now i still eat everything out of compulsion, even if I'm too stuffed.

Deggyy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:08:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents never let my sibling or I do anything. We couldn't go to sleepovers, we couldn't stay out, couldn't truck or treat. It was because they were always worried something would happen to us. They didn't trust anyone.

Now I don't either. It's been very hard to unlearn but I've tried to put trust in my friends and coworkers, but it's a constant struggle. This fear of other people's intentions was pushed on my so much from such an early age.

PinkSatanyPanties ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:12:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That everyone found me boring or annoying. My parents always discouraged me from talking to strangers because I would bore them, but random conversations on the bus and such have been some of the best of my life!

mrfluufiestpants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:12:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That evolution isn't true. I'm a science major, but it was mid college before I was finally able to look at the evidence critically, and debunk the deeply engrained arguments. Now I even believe the earth is billions of years old :)

DaREALCount_Spatula ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:12:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That eating until you are stuffed as FUCK, every single meal isn't healthy.

Hollowpoint- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:14:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That saying "pardon me" doesn't get rid of the smell.

danielsuarez369 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:16:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother taught me that God does not 'allow' you to have sex without being married. FYI my mom is very religious..

whyilovethemoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:21:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My grandmother told me that they didn't have spoons in the US so she made me practice eating everything with a fork...

I lived in the Philippines at the time.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:28:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To eat what you want of something while you can because it'll be gone if you don't. I believe to this day this is why I've never successfully lost weight. I'm active and I eat as well as I can on a budget but when I see a container of cookies, chips, what have you: I grab a handful or eat a bunch really fast because I'm convinced that if I don't, I won't get any. I don't think my parents ment to do this, both having grown up with multiple siblings so food was competition in a since, but it's hard to unlearn and to stop over eating.

Trophonix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom told me when I was young that if you move your mouse back and forth on a loading bar it will load faster. I still sometimes do it out of habit even though i know it makes no sense now lol...

kaiispuddle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to drive..

BuzzLiteBier ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:38:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That watermelon seeds can grow in a girl's belly to make them fat. By fat, they meant pregnant.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:40:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Humbleness. Unfortunately it's impractical in today's world of business.

Deppfan16 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:45:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you can do stuff without it being perfect every time. My mom still takes over or goes back after me to redo stuff i have done. Even if i have done it well. Then she complains no one helps or does things right. I just stopped trying becuaseeither she would fuss it wasnt done right and do it herself or she would fuss because noone helped. Either way i was going to get fussed at. Also just because they are my parents and older then me does not mean they know everything and are always right. I am.just now learning how to have my own opnions on things.

ergotoamiga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:47:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

racism

iHOPEimNOTanNPC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:48:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad use to think that cicada bug cries were power lines buzzing or something of that matter. Also he thought that the word "login" on every website out there was the name "logan" and asked "who is this logan guy that is everywhere." /facepalm

identiifiication ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:51:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To take the punches from the bullies

Drymarchon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:52:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

boredbacons ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That shaving above the thigh would cause pubic hair to grow all the way down my legs.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:01:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion, casteism

VengefulMigit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:03:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was little, whenever I ordered a hamburger id get it without the bun because I could never finish it with all the bread. My dad sarcastically told me that it was an "Adkins burger", so I proceeded to order "Adkins" burgers thinking it was like a cheese burger or something. Didn't find out until my parents wondered why I called every burger I got an Adkins burger

Angection ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:03:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you should never, EVER, bake anything at >350ยฐF.

Herbicus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:04:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everything; except for the unavoidable neccessity of manners.

wikiwaka90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:05:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

People are always out to get you.

Your friends will steal from you. We were poor, what were they gonna steal?

Don't trust anyone.

If you don't have loud arguments and smash things, you don't really care about your partner. They would actually mock couples who don't argue. Fortunately, I've never had a violent streak in me, but in my first few relationships I would instigate arguments - I don't anymore but it was difficult to change something that had been trained into me for my entire childhood.

runefar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:08:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I think Santa Claus but I am not fully sure about that as my father as well always taught me to be a natural skeptic and Santa was always like this kinda joke in our family. We would say Santa Claus is coming but I don't think I would say either my brother or I trueily believed in Santa Claus.Though of course maybe that was because we also celebrated Jul(or Yule) with my parents and Christmas with my grandparents(mothers)

FezPaladin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:41:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The primary reason for the Santa Claus thing is to train parents in the art of manipulating children through stories. It gained popularity (the modern form seen in the United States, that is) mainly because preachers at the time were taking an interest in farming out their processes to the newly formed nuclear families of the late 19th and early 20th Centuries -- theoretically, it was intended to get ordinary people a bit more invested in the same mischievous processes that keep Christianity alive today.

runefar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:37:24 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That is a quite interesting info, but I would like to point out if I suggested this but my father is a atheist and my mom is somewhere in between non-religious and atheist.Also we called it Jul because my father is a norwegian and then when we were at my mother parents we called it Christmas but it wasnt really about Christianity in any way

FezPaladin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:25:32 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It was never necessarily about any specific belief set, especially given the wide variability within Christian theology... the point was to propagate a method by which Christianity would find it easier to spread through, and not to put this in the wrong context, but this is not the first time the "Santa Claus" mythos was used to spread Christianity. Last time around, a whole lot of Odin stuff was ripped off in order to make Christianity more appealing in Northern Europe.

runefar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:47:23 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh sorry, I thought I somehow suggested that in some way. Thank you for all of the info though because I am glad to learn even more about our holidays and their beginning and effects

FezPaladin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:57:25 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Yeah, I just realized it too... we're saying the same things to each but in radically differing ways.

runefar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:31:06 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

well thanks for that interesting conversation, have a good reddit time :P

FezPaladin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:47:25 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I shall try to. :)

Eariocylla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's such a rewarding experience seeing your children grow and develop with the hard work and effort you've put in!

astoneyx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:11:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Putting my hair on the shower wall....and leaving it there. Ew mom. I did that for 20. Fucking. Years. Now I swirl it around and throw it away after my shower like a normal person.

TheTunaDebacle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To always finish my plate of food, even if you're full...27 years later I'm still trying to rewire my brain.

kibble-net ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That a four year college degree followed by four years in graduate school is the only way to make a living.

TrustMeImAGiraffe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That there will always be someone prettier, smarter and better then you.

While this is true for most things, there are honestly some little things i have done in my life that i've never seen anyone do better.

Oomba73 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:32:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

jellypops555 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:32:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The utensils in the dishwasher go up.

My mom was blind so we had to put them pointing down so she wouldn't accidentally stab herself. I never knew it was done any differently until I lived with someone else.

MacadamNumber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Islam, going outside is dangerous, all strangers are dangerous (according to them all my friends are bad frequentations), and that I should never, ever got o bed after midnight because that is unhealthy and I might die.

infiniteconomist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The idea that it is better not to ask

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Alcoholism, drug abuse, anorexia and anger issues. Thanks mom and dad ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

Brasscogs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Peeling mushrooms isn't normal

terminator567 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Taking action. They always taught about being a good person and not getting in the way. But once something gets ugly, run. Not observe the facts and determine a side. Can't blame though, they emigrated when civil war broke out. That could of gotten them killed.

yyy1234444456778 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:43:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God, every new household I've encountered has taught me something new.

My encounters with my first friend's family told me that it is abnormal to be yelled at all of the time for everything.

My ex-SO's family taught me that people don't normally stomp around the house, car doors don't need slammed to shut, people don't shout across the house to talk to each other, and generally that my parents are hoarders.

Since then, it's mostly been exercises in learning how to clean: it was a big production to even sweep in our family's house, with vacuuming being a lengthy process involving a lot of yelling. Within my first year of college, I had invested in a small broom/dustpan set that I used at least weekly if not daily to just tidy up. Imagine my surprise at my housemates junior year when they cleaned the bathroom and kitchen regularly, with cleaning products! When I dad helped me move out this past June, I was struck by just how low his standards were for cleaning. "YYY1234444456778, aren't you done yet?" "Well, no, after I finish packing this box I still need to sweep, vacuum, wipe down the counters, reclean the oven, clean the whole bathroom..." His face went blank, he grabbed a broom to sweep, and after I reswept and got more dirt than his first pass. I adore my father, but he can't pack or clean. And my mom just yells at other people to do it for her.

EUgocentric ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom is always worried about what other people would think about her and her family. She projected this on me, saying multiple times "what would people think about that?". It made me very self conscious and I am still struggling to get it out of my system.

Thatonegaurdian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to grow up and do things on your own. My parents always thought It'd be easier to do everything for me rather than teach me how to do anything and I know it doesn't sound to bad but it's ended hurting me so much in life and my relationships that's why I moved out went to another state and am doing BLET now

butch123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pig Latin.

bonbonsrule122 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents used to tell me that you needed to receive a ticket in the mail to go play in the little play places at malls and fast food places.

It wasn't something that took a long time to unlearn, by the time I was twelve I realized it was kinda sketchy and months later I found out they were just saying that so we couldn't go play there. It took such a long time to figure out because I never thought much of it.

lardson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That having tons of friends, dating, being outgoing, and going to parties is essential for a normal teenage lifestyle. I'm on the total opposite spectrum than my mom when it comes to this. She's only recently realized that being quiet and not liking parties is ok.

WakaFlakaPham ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I grew up pronouncing root as root, but my roommates gave me so much trouble about it that I just say root around them now.

ganjawrangler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom told me at a young age that when the ice cream truck is playing music, it is out of ice cream. I never went to an ice cream truck until I was about 12

furbische ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A little lighthearted: my mom can't pronounce a LOT of things in the standard manner. As someone currently studying linguistics, I don't mind and find her habits endearing, but if I could have avoided being made fun of a lot for pronouncing Neosporin as [ni jo spo ษนi sin], Connecticut as... well, how it's spelled, and houndstooth as [hundอกz tuรฐ] (sorry for my bad transcription, haven't taken a phonetics class in like 2 years), then I probably would've. The intonation is almost always the same as normal, she'll just make weird vowels or add syllables where they aren't.

Current favourite mispronunciation that I, luckily, haven't inherited: sriracha as [sษ™ษน ษ‘ tสƒi].

edit: the houndstooth one was actually my dad being a dick-- he would always pronounce things exaggerated/silly (maybe it was a joke to my mom/at her expense, idk), and I didn't really know how to differentiate between him joking and the "real" pronunciation.

Intheshadowss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That my vote mattered.

popkorn9898 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

White people are not to be trusted and black people are dangerous

FezPaladin ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:35:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The first one is generally true.

BunkBuy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:07:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

so is the second one considering they make up 52% of the murder rate in the US

FezPaladin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:58:28 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And most of the murder victims as well.

L0RDA55H0L3 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So is the second one.

pixel_light ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:04:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's not ok to be angry

kjliu716 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ABC born and raised in a traditional Chinese household here-- Acting submissive around others.. especially my superiors.

Entengkabwisote ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Didn't exactly "taught" but it was how it used to be so the expectation was to follow. My parents would always be the one talking in the table and its always lecturing us or scolding about random stuff. Even if you try to defend yourself it was no use so you stay quiet. If you're discussing something nice they always managed to twist it into a negative discussion. Ended up really silent when eating and just focusing at the food. Only noticed this when a friend of mine pointed out and that's when I realized. Now I'm slowly trying to change this behavior by engaging in conversations during meal.

TheCoyoteBlack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:13:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom is constantly cleaning, doesn't matter if I'm puking and I just want to sleep, I have to get out of bed and vacuum. So far I've been accepting that dust happens, and I don't have to use every spare second to clean.

CocoKyoko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to use money.

My mum raised three children as a single mother. We were raised without money and had to constantly buy things cheap. We at times had to go down to food banks and stuff. We never were really allowed any luxuries (unless my decided to get them for us).

I remember constantly saving up my money and she uses it to buy the shopping. Because we were always low on money. Because mum was bad with money and stuff. She'd take the money out of the safe I had and spend it. She did this a lot. I'd save up money in a bank account of my own and it would get spent by someone else.

What made it worse is that she was a smoker. She would smoke a lot and that cut into our finances a lot. I kept saying to her that if she stopped she'd live longer and we'd have more money. But she never stopped. In fact, there was always a bottle of vodka in the cupboard (she didn't drink a lot but she did drink regularly) and I found out she smoked more than just tabbaco as well.

I've always learned to save every single penny and never spend any of it on myself. The most liberating part of my life was when I moved across the country to go to university. Suddenly, I have my own bank account 100% under my control (I set it up myself), I have money (from various sources), and I have control over what I can do.

I still don't spend a lot but I now have enough money to be able to live comfortably with it. I'm not so much fretting about every penny. I see a poster/flag I want for my bedroom? I'll get it, no problem. Want to buy myself a new keyboard as a graduation present? I can afford it.

It probably helps that I did my bachelor's in Accounting and am doing my master's in Finance. I guess that lack of money has set a direction in my life.

Lamb-and-Lamia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lol this thread just made realize the vicious neccesity of how annoying parents are.

We all agree that a person who acts like his opinions or beliefs are facts is an annoying cunt. And parents basically have to do that. You cant really expect to let your kid know how little you actually know because then you don't command any respect. You need him to trust you, and seek out your guidance.

But then as we get older we realize how much of that was dumb as shit and we begin to take on the perception that out parents were idiots who thought they knew everything, even though they sort of needed to act like they did. And whats worse is that years and years of doing that made our parents actually like that now.

hainesy91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you shouldn't wash clothes in the washing machine at 90 degrees to "get them extra clean" as it ruins them.

That you have to add a tonne of oil to a frying pan when using one. When I saw a friend dry fry some peppers my mind was blown.

bbsydney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That just because clothes don't fit, doesn't mean your body is bad. I can't even tell you all how many times I watched my mom cry in dressing rooms as a kid. She had a ton of body image issues, even though she's always been beautiful and, growing up, I wanted to be just like her.

She never said anything about my body because she loved me and didn't want me to end up hating my body as much as she hated hers, but I definitely internalized those experiences and as a teenager, also cried in dressing rooms and hated my body for not fitting into a certain size.

I've since made great strides in appreciating my body for what it can do, but it's taken years of actively trying to improve my body image.

mandibunch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you only eat certain foods at certain meals, along with a variety of other awful eating habits. Just to give you a few examples of what I mean...eggs are only a breakfast food. Vegetables consisted of peas, potatoes or corn. Not a stalk of broccoli in sight, I didn't even get the opportunity to try broccoli until I was in my teens. No ketchup in the house ever, so Miracle Whip became the normal dressing for hot dogs until I figured out the rest of the world really doesn't do that as a first choice. You want ice cream? Chocolate or vanilla. That's it. No other flavors appeared in our freezer like ever. Yogurt was scary and off limits because it said on the label that there are live yogurt cultures in there. Seasonings consisted of salt, pepper and garlic powder. Sage came around at Thanksgiving and pretty much everything on the table tasted like it. We ate what they called "goulash" more than any other meal I can even recall. It consists of an underseasoned tomato sauce, ground beef and elbow noodles. I can count on one hand how many times I've eaten it in my adulthood. I remember asking for different things at the store, things I thought sounded tasty and wanted to try, but I was always told I wouldn't like it or some other excuse. We weren't financially unable to eat well, my grandmother just had a bland way of eating and never really learned how to cook. She just assumed everyone else liked what she liked. It made me a little scared to try new things when I was younger and took me a long time to unlearn this weird way of eating. Now I am a pretty adventurous cook and I'll try just about any food.

Lamplock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to tie my laces

So basically when my dad was little he was never taught how to tie his laces (didn't come from a very good background) but he's got a very high iq (technically a genius) so he taught himself and then mum left him to teach me because she taught my sister.

But my dad wasn't aware everyone else in the world tied their laces differently and my mum never noticed my dad did it wrong. So I now tie my laces stupidly like him.

I'm now 20 and a few people have made fun of how I do it over the years but didn't know my dad did it the same. Brought it up at dinner once and my mum couldn't believe my dad had survived this long doing it like that.

Bare in mind we've both complained for years that the laces in our shoes always come undone and that they're made so badly and make mum buy us new sets of laces like 10 times a year

wbrennan88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's normal to have a beer after work every day your entire worklife - only realized when it was older that that's alcoholism.

JustMeAndMySnail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being wrong was absolutely shameful, and you were never to admit it, of course. (Really, this just makes you look like an arrogant douche... Took me more years than I'd like to admit to figure this one out. Thanks, Dad.)

Secondly, vegetables have 2 states: soggy, or raw. (Just learned to cook them with a pleasant crunch within the last couple years, thanks Mom.)

masquedRider ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That love cures all.

Marcie_Beaucoup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Many things, but the worse two: Fretting, worrying, and getting worked up over things they can't control. Being afraid of the new and unknown. Being afraid to take risks and truly live.

ColimaCruising ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism and sexism.

When its not overtly aggressive it's harder to pick out as being wrong when you're young. They used to work little things about women being more emotional and blacks being lazy/dumb into conversation and when the comments are phrased as side notes in a longer story its hard to pick up on their absurdity when your like 8.

Anyways, it took me years to figure out that the ideologies I held were absolutely wrong and taught by misguided parents. It's really weird to simultaneously come out of the fog of thinking your parents are perfect and recognizing all these biases you hold even though you've always considered yourself to be a kind person.

Ultimately I still have lots of biases, the major difference now is that I recognize them and reassess situations after I think something stereotypical of another race, gender, or sexuality. It helps that my best friend is a very smart Mexican dude who is willing to call me on my bullshit and have a heart to heart after where we go through these issues.

captain_vee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Conservatism and religion. I was raised super religious and taught that all things queer were immoral. Now I'm a trans dude living life much happier than before

Vnewb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That changing your mind about something is in ok.you don't have to stay committed if it turns out to be bad

wildbill883 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:42:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Late to the party!

Mine was that the world is out to get you regards if it warranted or not. Also if anyone disagrees with you to just get angrier and angrier until that person gives in. My waking up point was at my first job I was tardy by a few minutes a few times and got a write up. I wasn't upset, I knew I deserved it. I went home and told my dad about it and he blew the fuck up like that boss was out to get me, I needed to quit, he's going to write you up for everything, etc. He was hitting the walls and going on and on how the world is out to get me. Dude chill it was a verbal anyways and I deserved it. The cherry on the cake is that his mother, my grandmother is the EXACT SAME WAY and they both piss and moan to me about how crazy the other is for acting that way.

_no_one234 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism (I grew up in a very small town)

Edit: Not violence or anything, we did not burn crosses or hang anyone, nothing NEAR that. I can recall, however, being handed a 2 page paper of racist jokes by my father while in elementary school. Just a small town mindset that it took me a few years to realize was wrong.

Clarkmyfancy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:46:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

racism

HeyTherehnc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm late to the party but oh goodness there are so many things...

  1. That drinking pickle juice will kill you.
  2. That accidentally getting a piece of eggshell in your batter, eggs, whatever will kill you.
  3. That accidentally swallowing a fish bone will kill you.
  4. If you honk at someone on the road they are going to shoot you.
  5. The rapture is going to happen at any moment and we had better be prepared.

There are more things that were definitely immediately deadly, but I can't remember them right now.

BlueEyedDemon420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion and passive aggression.

Emilina_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My father thinks that everyone is out to get you. That the only person you can trust is yourself. My father also chooses to drink more than he eats. Remain unmarried and bitch at mom about their divorce over 22 years ago.

Mauriarti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They taught me God was real. Really glad I unlearned that one

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That turning on the cruise control won't set my car on fire.

My dad had me believing this all through growing up. He, for some reason, thought that wiring and hot cars don't mix, so if you use it to much, it'll catch on fire.

I still hesitate to turn the cruise control on, except for when I'm in the car for over 2 hours.

Krazky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you can never be in the wrong when you're driving. Somebody cuts you off? Curse them out and honk. Everybody other than you is an asshole. You cut somebody off? Deep silence, no objections to me, it was necessary and my right away.

bluebonnetames ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:01:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being a virgin does not define your worth as a person.

HouseDownTheStreet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Salt is a terrible substance and cooking never requires it. Vegetables are supposed to be tasteless.

hypotemp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"We know what's best for you."

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's okay to hit children.

Krazky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That every thing I fuck up in or do wrong is all because I have my dad's genes in me. Little backstory, didn't know my Dad until I was 4, and I ended up cutting him off around 11 years old because I kept giving too many chances to an asshole who has already showed that he doesn't truly care. Every time I did anything wrong, and by wrong I mean things your average teenager does like be lazy or dishonest about something minuscule, I'm instantly my dad. Even just making certain facial expressions would trigger my mom to go off on a soliloquy about how "I'm just like him" and all of this. It would just be a complete mess. I'm human, I make mistakes, and sometimes you can't control those mistakes.

Jclaytone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion!

stoopidmonstr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mother taught my that my mere existence was an annoyance and I like all the wrong things in life.

It's taken me a long time but I'm sort of starting to reverse this in my brain.

Prepareyourecolon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Reading this thread makes me crazy angry at my parents.

ADXMcGeehee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom convinced me credit cards are the DEVIL. She was horrible with credit and when my dad died we had something ridiculous like 20k in debt.

Anyways, I took her advice and avoided them like the Plague. Well now I'm in my late twenties and just now learning how bad of advice that was. You just need to be RESPONSIBLE with credit. It's been about 6 months now and I'm slowly watching my score rise - I'm hoping within 2-3 years I'll have enough of a credit rating for a mortgage.

Thanks mom!

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:29 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If someone touches you, punch them in the face.

Tierosaurus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad didn't (and still doesn't) believe in global warming. We watched The Great Global Warming Swindle together, and combined with the fact that my dad worked at an oil company and is supposed to know a lot about chemistry, it seemed very legit that global warming wasn't real. Years later I was wondering about the documentary, googled it, and found out it was full of shit.

Edit: Also, I obviously didn't realise working for an oil company made my dad very biased..

JLynne44 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:47 on August 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I agree that companies are greedy and pollute. But your dad is correct. Study the science from all angles. Lots of disinfo out there. Look up carbon credits.

cheshirecatsmiles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Babies have gills. That's how they survive in the embryonic fluid. Led to an interesting conversation with my high school bio teacher.

pyroguy174 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I am special

Rosivenna ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That Jesus was an alien from Venus who came here to impart his wisdom and teach us. The reason we don't see the aliens on Venus (or any other planet or moon, almost all of the celestial bodies in our solar system are apparently populated) is because they exist at a different vibrational frequency and we're not advanced enough to detect it

demilitarizdsm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That crossing my eyes would result in them getting stuck like that. To be fair I was born that way and needed corrective surgery. It probably just reminded them of that shit.

WhitePineBurning ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's okay to spend your money on things.

It's okay to pay to get something fixed, instead of living with a broken or malfunctioning thing, like a stove burner. You don't have to keep working around it if you can afford to take care of it.

Likewise, It's not vain to spend money on good clothing. Having several pairs of shoes isn't sinful. Paying a professional to cut your hair well doesn't mean you're full of yourself.

It's fine to invest wisely by purchasing good tools and well-made appliances. It's not a waste of money to pay more for the better grades of paint, and buy good brushes and rollers.

And finally, it's good to spend money on others if you want to. If someone does something nice and you want to gift or tip them, do it without agonizing about the bare minimum you can get away with.

Money may be spent to improve your life.

It wasn't until I lived alone in another city that I realized the difference between frugal and cheap, and how cheap my parents actually were.

SJExit4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you can't trust when period are nice or compliment you.

My mother world constantly criticize me growing up. My clothes, hair, etc. If someone else said that they liked whatever she didn't, she would say that I couldn't trust anyone else but her - that get were lying to me.

Hao_Xiao_Mao ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the well-being of other people comes before my personal needs. Also, doing anything that society thinks is taboo is going to make my life harder, even if they didn't think society was right about something.

jenniferchecks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That there are no such things as friends, the only people who will care for you and do what's good for you are your immediate family.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

always clean your plate

RustyBullet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:12 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus and stuff.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It's okay to be selfish as long as you get yours in the end.

I know they were worried I'd be taken advantage of because they saw me as too shy/weak to say no to anyone, which was accurate. But I didn't and still genuinely don't mind giving someone what I have if I think their having it will make them happier than it does me. And I'm still not really a fan of stretching the truth to get what I want, even if it's not hurting anyone.

On the other hand I do also let people walk all over me and always take no for an answer, so they really weren't wrong in trying to break me of that.

ZetaLightning94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My biological mother taught my sister how to steal. She was stealing shit from her stroller..

donadora ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:24:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mum always pronounced won't as "wron't". I used to say & write it like that all the way up to grade 5 or 6 when was corrected on paper. Remember being shocked that that's how it's properly spelled/pronounced

BECKYISHERE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That if you eat a bit of uncooked dough with yeast in it it will expand in your stomache and you die a violent death.

zeba72 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom taught me to never talk back to adults, never speak up for myself, and just behave like a good little girl. Fuck, now that I'm older and work in a position where I have to tell others they're wrong all the time...I just blank out. I'm still working on it but I'll have to work harder if I want to shake those stupid voices she put in my head and climb the management ladder

sonijack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"When I get smarter does my brain grow bigger?" "Yes." "But what if it gets too big? What if it doesn't it in my skull anymore?" "That's how people become retarded."

mpd105 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Stupid", "butt", "pee", and "puke" are not bad words. The entire concept of bad words is so dumb anyway. They're words.

HiddenThrowaway8523 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh boy there is a lot. I'm going to list 3 so this post isn't a wall of text

  1. I am not allowed to have emotions. I am constantly berated, yelled at, and even slapped in the face, if I show any emotion except for rare moments of happiness. s a result I no longer show any emotion. My voice is monotone, and my face is black. School is going to be a freaking nightmare, but I digress

  2. I (my mother) am better than you in every way. You are completely subservient to me and any other adult. Yeah, that one is the most screwed up one. I can't even say "maybe we should do this" without losing everything I own and being confined to my room. I am also expected to be subservient to other children, but I try not to be if my mom isn't around.

  3. You are to be a part of me. You must share my views, ideals, and morals. Yeah that one is horrible. And I have a tendency to oppose everything's mother likes. She's homophobic? I'm gay. You get the idea.

(Yes I am currently living with her, only because I'm 13, and there is no where I could go. Like it or not, I am going to have to tough it out until I'm 21, because I'd like to go to college)

horses_for_courses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everything was on the cheap.
Don't get me wrong, we didn't have alot of money then, but as a family, we never saved/bought good things, always poorer quality that that was never replaced. The sad thing is that both my parents passed away with far too much money in the bank that they'd been saving for .... what? I save, buy quality the first time, and replace it when I want to, not when I have to.

Leoparden91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That when the ice cream truck rings it is NOT because they are out of ice cream..

The-Daemon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"You have to finish everything on your plate."

I used to be forced to sit at the table for hours after meals were done because I was either full or didn't like what I was eating.

Being an adult now I've realized I can eat whatever I want, and having to eat everything on the plate is a major reason I'm not smaller. Being able to put food back off my plate and save it for later is a mental burden but I'm teaching myself this is actually the good thing to do.

ranomaly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism. My father would talk about Mexicans stealing our jobs, blacks ruining our music culture, etc. My stepmother would simply mention how "dirty" those kinds of people were. I moved out of that small town, smoked some weed, formed my own thoughts and opinions, and left that all behind.

getogeko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I will know what comes through that door.

jbc96 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God is real

CrilleMega ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mum told me that Santa Claus was real.. :(

Terrible_Ty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

ameisterf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My entire life, even until today I always pronounced pillow as "pellow" and milk as "melk" when I was going into college people would make fun of me and told me it's not pronounced that way, I even spelt pillow as PELLOW FOR YEARS!!! I wondered where the heck did I learn how to say it this way?!

Well, a few months after that I went home and my dad said "I just want to grab my pellow, and nice cup of melk and relax" it hit me like a brick... Thanks dad

milfman2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That using profanity makes you a bad person.

riddlemore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That heterosexuality is the only sexuality.

strangle_me_tender ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I misunderstood my dad when he told me that your heart can only beat so much before it gives out and you die. So I thought if you avoided physical activity you would live longer because your heart would beat at a lower frequency.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:04:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

Tryme118 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to be spoiled.... I'm working on it!

Hudson3205 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

when i was in preschool we had an empty battery drive, so i had to put empty batteries in a drawer for donating, and to this day I still put the dead batteries in that drawer

SeraCross ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Plan for everything.

Life after college was a bitch teacher. You aren't guaranteed anything in life, even that dream job you got a degree for. While planning short term goals is useful, you MUST be flexible. Being open for opportunities is, many times, more useful than planning.

TheCroissanterie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents have always thought that if our calendar is free, we should always go to social events we are invited to, regardless of what kind of people will be there, what we will be doing, whether we want to in the first place, or mental wellbeing at the time of the event. They always taught that if you have nothing better to do, you should go.

JDeltaWhiskey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Obama was a terrorist.

theotherlee28 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism.

TreeArbitor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom insisted that pants are supposed to rest at the belly button. Maybe when she was a girl, but as a guy, you can't even pull your dick out the zipper like that

BubTheSkrub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ITT: free gold for having abusive parents

brunette_and_busty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents used to tell me that it was my younger brother's (2 years my junior) job to annoy me. I would always have to just put up with it because they would never let me defend myself whenever I got sick of it. That was always tough.

Retrodaniel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When I was a child, I was taught the alphabet before I started school. When I started, they started to teach the alphabet with sounds ("ah beh ke etc"). It really confused me, so I had to relearn the alphabet the wrong way

AmberEmotions ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Milk is not the nectar of the gods and is not more valuable than liquid gold. You can pour it down the sink if drinking more would give you a stomach ache.

Pestillent_dog_2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That debating with someone and convincing them about something isn't manipulation.

rahuljerry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Study now, you'll have a great happy life when you get old.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to cook rise. It was three months ago.

themastersb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom was very blonde. There were a lot of things that I had to unlearn because of it. Like that worms (the parasitic kind) come from eating too much candy. That's just one example which is obviously nonsense. What initially gave her that idea is through a friend/relative eating a lot of candy and by coincidence contracting a parasite.

shwarma_heaven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the world was going to end in the year 2000, that credit cards were proof of it. That ghosts walk along us can posses people, and that the Moon Landing was faked. Not to mention she was a religious nut to top it all off....

Gat5by ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I don't need to fully research something and find all potential pitfalls before trying something new. It's okay to just' wing it' sometimes.

noCake4u ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Parents taught me , If you want to watch hours mindless of tv. Read a book for 30 minutes or watch an educational program for an hour first. Now married with a step kid that hates reading or anything educational related and was raised to get what they want & will watch tv 10 straight. I had to unlearn for my Husband sake because that kid should do what ever the fuck it wants.

aris3133 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

One of the biggest things that my mom always accused me of was "mothering" my younger sister and cousins. Really, I was just trying to get them to leave me alone, but mom decided any command I gave them was "mothering". I had to learn that I was the oldest (by 5 years), and if something bothered me I WAS ALLOWED to request that the others stopped. The first time I did this was a few years ago (in my mid 20s, my aunt has 11 kids) at Christmas when I kept having wrapping paper balls, tightly put together, thrown at my face. My mom glared at me from across the room when I asked my cousins to cut it out, but I wasn't about to let her influence my response anymore.

1204ka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not me, but my sister believed there was a chocolate milk cow until at 18 years old with a kid, her boyfriend's parents had to tell her the truth.

DausenWillis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:02 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Asking for help is not a sign of weakness.

FaxCruise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:05 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Homosex is wrong

madame_mayhem ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:22:02 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm a wortless piece of shit. If somebody hurts me I deserve it. Being gay/queer is wrong.

madusa77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:35 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Holding grudges.

fivemetresfromthesun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:40 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dad's career advice - what was no doubt very good advice in the 70's and 80's gets you taken advantage of these days.

He and my mother run their own business for 30 years now.

Took me about 5-6 years to realise.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:33:27 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You need 8 hours of sleep minimum to be functional the next day. 5 works fine.

PM_ME_LIZARDS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:43 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents never really went out anywhere, we never visited other family and I wasn't pushed out to see friends/other humans much. The last thing I don't mind really, but it adds to my point a little.

I moved into my SOs family's house last week and twice I've been somewhat confronted by his mother for being antisocial so far. I'm having a bad week anyway (medical stuff) which is getting me rather irritable, discovering new habits of my SOs (lots of laziness and other stuff) is driving me around the bend a bit but overall, I'm being typical me. The family go out a lot and always invite me, I say no bcos I just don't do that, I feel bad, and it's been mentioned already. I would much rather not leave the house much except for when I eventually (hopefully) get a job. I don't like talking to people, my SOs immediate family aren't strangers but aunties + etc are, I get really panicky around anybody I don't know well and I need to grow out of it, or something. I need to learn to be social but it's really damn hard and I get so panicky and tense just thinking about it.

I need to unlearn being an introvert/antisocial (unsure which I am really)

dukeof3arl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:15 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not to be a dick

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:03 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents wanted to homeschool me because they thought I would lose my ability to speak Russian. But I went to public school and now I'm bilingual.

birdsinthesky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:02:26 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Share everything.

I think they taught me this because I was an only child and I never had anyone to share things with, but anytime friends or family came over my mom would literally give my toys and clothes away to people to show me what "sharing" is. To this day she still does it and it drives me crazy. She just gave away my brand new hair dryer to a family member in town and commented that she liked it. I don't believe in sharing to that extent.

snakeeyes91214 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:37 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Warn people three times, if they keeping messing with you then you can hit them

skeleton-cat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:28:46 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm special or in any way extraordinary. I love them for thinking that I am but...just not realistic, fam.

PizzaRollsAndWeed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:43 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

that you don't have to emotionally damage your kids just because you were emotionally damaged as a kid.

fatherzoge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:25 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

That if you love how you look, you're conceited. If you want things or put your happiness first, you're selfish. That being straight is the only acceptable sexuality. Sinners go to Hell. The music I like isn't "real music". Wearing a shirt that shows your stomach is slutty. That you aren't allowed to make mistakes. Verbal abuse is just "part of good parenting". That my generation is ignorant.

PizzaRollsAndWeed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:56:43 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That having depression doesn't make you a lazy piece of shit, and you aren't a pussy that likes to throw pity parties for having off days. Depression also comes and goes and is not something exclusively for people living in the worst conditions ever.

zDougie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:08:12 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Purpose and Duty.

Of the bad things they taught me, there is one that I just can seem to shake. There is a song based on the supposed sayings of Solomon in the scriptures "To everything there is a purpose..."

Both parents drilled this in, but to honest I think my mom was probably worse than my dad.

What is wrong with it? That characteristic combined with my being hyper-analytic makes it impossible for me to relax. Even sleeping and love-making are difficult. Only now am I starting to get where I can enjoy a hillside or a flower without analogizing why and for what purpose.

Boo-Hoo ... I had it so bad ... :)

AfterschoolTeacher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:02 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Just curious. Are you Jewish?

zDougie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:54:24 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

:) Interesting suggestion! No. My dad was raised assmbly of god but he hated it. Mom raised in grandiose good force of no specific personality.

I say interesting because of an old movie that repeatedly referred to his childhood development as ceaseless guilt, that being Jewish. My parents had a lot of guilt and that trait foynd a home in me!

SouthPST ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:16 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nothing. Mother, 2 Aunties, Granny. Love them forever++

BayushiKazemi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:50 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That being reasonable and kind and supportive is how everyone acts to everyone. Nobody in my immediate nor extended family (including the cousin who's blindingly democratic and the cousin with head trauma) does things to seriously spite others. Before then, any bad things were entirely circumstantial and unintentional and people were certainly not looking for chances at cheating me out of things. I caught on before anything traumatic happened to me, but several of my siblings have learned the hard way.

Bear2120 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:14 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That good things come to those who wait

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:10:50 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Milk has animal hormones and is the main reason for diabetes, obesity, heck even climate change.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:28 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eat up everything on your plate

Source: am fat

DropKix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:48:46 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Random southern nicknames for things that I thought was normal.

Example: There was a steep hill near a country club where I grew up, that my Mom called "Hob Snob Hill" and I thought that was just the nickname for a steep hill... until I tried to give someone directions using it.

finnished ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:18:12 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Emotional eating.

Eizziljam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:54:37 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I went to an all girls school too! But it wasn't super conservative catholic! This is probably why I think catholic education is great... I'm definitely going to have to do lots of research on schools when I have kids!

hitops1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:39:44 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So some kind of clustering effect where abused people seem to know each other, and perhaps vice versa (reason I don't know any)?

Brother_Alphonse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:46 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Let the stupidity of others ruin your day.

ingannilo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:49 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

My dad has some pretty fucked up ideas about women. His ma was pretty rough on him as a kid-- the sort of stuff that CPS would be all over these days. I have to constantly be on alert, switching from "son mode" to "counselor mode".

He has good advice to give, but when he starts talking about anything to do with women, family, or (by extension) politics of any sort (work politics, et cetera), I have to pick my words very carefully, and decide judiciously what to take as the words of a learned, successful man versus a bitter, angsty child.

In particular, he really believes that there's a gender war. It's a fight, and women are fascists. Lots of consequences for doubting or arguing with him.

Kyrrdis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:04 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was nearly an adult before I learned that other families didn't communicate by arguing, yelling, or saying hurtful things. On car trips, my brother and I sat quietly in the back while my parents raged at each other. I unlearned this form of communication when I finally got friends and, later, spouse + in-laws. Other people did not put up with that s--t or think it 'normal'.

macabre_trout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:01 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Your bosses (in my white-collar field) are not out to screw you they generally want the same results you do, and you can sit down and talk with them about things and they're generally receptive to your ideas. You don't just have to keep your head down and passive-aggressively bitch about things with no intention to change them.

Day128 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:26:29 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To finish every bits of food on your plate.

They taught me that when I was served with a meal, I should eat every last bits of food, and even leave almost no trace of sauce/dressing/ketchup is the goal. Not even water. This became a habit and I always finished ALL the food people gave me, even when I was too full or there was just wayyy too much to eat. Doesn't matter who cooked it, who paid it, etc. Later I realized people don't always expect that, it's not a moral issue, and that it's bad for my health.

cinthiaxotwod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:05:47 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Guess out of habit or concern but your mom sounds just like mine. She too would ask in a concerned voice. Ha! but that's crazy I literally thought I was the only one but turns out there's more people that do this!

Shawdow194 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:08 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom always told me red velvet was a different flavor than chocolate no matter how much I argued

Emigail ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:48:11 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That because "they're your parents" you have to think the same way they do.

loafybrown ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:17:49 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to unlearn nutritional indifference.

Learning in my late teens that eating microwaved processed frozen foods, fastfood, drinking liters of soda, and overall an animal-based protein diet isn't good for me, especially with my family's history of coronary heart disease, diabetes and what not - that bad eating habits are inherited.

tee_said ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:22 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eat until I feel full.

siductive ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:18 on August 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Saying the word been as "bin" instead of "bean".

jwalk999 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:13 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well it's nice to dream i guess

snoozycroc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:40:28 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

My family is Pakistani. We moved to the UK when I was about 2, when I was younger, my mum taught me the country 'Thailand' was pronounced 'Thighland' and not 'Tyeland'.

Two years ago - I'm 23 - I'm walking round a shopping centre with my mate and we're deciding what to get for dinner.

Him: Fish and chips?

Me: Nah. Ooo! What about THIGH food? :)

Him: ... What?

Me: THIGH food! points at a Thai food stand

Him: Er... yeah.

Me: ... What? You don't want THIGH food?... :(

Him: Mate... You know it's pronounced "Tye" right?

Me: sarcastically Yeah, sure sure!

Him: ...I his face is confused...so confused ... I can't tell if you're kidding or not.

Me: scared ... I... am?

It was embarrassing. I told my mum off and she laughed so much and just said "Well - that's how my teachers taught me and all my sisters to say it."

My aunties all say THIGHLAND too.

TL:DR - THIGHland is not how you say Thailand.

unthinkingman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:32:19 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can be anything,you want to be if you work hard enough.

gigabytegary ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:49 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Late to the party, but I have a hard time thinking of things on the spot and this just popped into my head, but,

Properly saying the term "excuse me."

Growing up, I always heard the term used aggressively. Like, "Excuse me?!"

So, I never would use the term, thinking that people thought I was annoyed by them. Even if I was in the way of someone, I would just try to slink out of their way.

I'm still trying to relearn that I can use that term in a polite manner and it should not be interpreted as annoyance/aggression.

chrisimac ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:27:25 on September 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Even later than your comment, but I have a suggestion. When you are trying to be polite, use the term "Pardon me" instead of "Excuse me". It might make it easier for you if you associate a different term with the polite use.

vacantbay ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:20 on August 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't be passive aggressive. Learn how to carry conversations/be social.

nirtiachtebazile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:13 on August 26, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Codependency

shelllbee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:16 on August 26, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That dinner is over when your plate is clean. I was poor growing up so dinner was the only complete meal I had when I was a child.

boomer2346 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:23:00 on August 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I should buy my shoes a size bigger than I actually am. As a kid it made sense because I grew at a super fast rate. But once I hit 18-19 I realized how stupid it was because I wasn't growing anymore. I still have a few pairs that are way too big.

waddlinmabel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:23:14 on August 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That being loud, rude and mean to strangers isn't ok and most certainly not "telling it how it is".

itsalloutgirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:51 on August 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

im a bit late to the game but here it goes. I grew up in a cult that mask itself as christianity though it is NOT! i had to teach myself that i wasn't going to live forever in paradise on earth ... that everything i knew as true was in fact a lie. and that even now the guilt trips I receive from family and friends are not an attack on me but sad in that they believe it. They truly believe they are the chosen ones and that all other forms of religion will be murdered in the day of armegeddon... I look now and i feel so surreal because im still semi close to my parents and yet so very different. and im sad for them....

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ theonecalledzach ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:52:27 on August 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Better late than never :P but I'm sorry to hear that. I hope that they wake up one day too

Ear_64 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:12 on August 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism and homophobia. I was raised by my grandparents, who were both incredibly racist and homophobic, in addition to my dad, and I was for a while. My mom is now gay and my friends tell me im a very chill, open, and kind person.

pnk314 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:35 on August 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You have to love someone because they're family

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:28:01 on August 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You don't lose weight and be healthy by eating microwaved "low fat" prepared meals.

My mom has been "on a diet" pretty much her entire life, starting in the 80s when the word "fat" was evil. She put me on a diet when I was 13 (I was NOWHERE near overweight), meaning she'd buy me a pack of Weight Watchers microwavable meals for the week.

Fast forward 15 years later, I am way healthier than her, eating (mostly) whole foods and cooking my own meals, eating the occasional pain au chocolat and pizza. She came to visit last month, and told me I was an idiot for eating a whole (!) avocado. 'You're going to be obese by the end of the year if you keep eating fat'

I don't even argue anymore, it's not worth it. She's the most stubborn person on Earth.

Xyoloswag420blazeitX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:53 on August 30, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Casual" racism. Introversion well beyond the extent to which I'd consider healthy.

Chickenbones369 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:08 on September 1, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you can never really be happy in a relationship, its all just settling.

That all girls are just using you.

That doing things for fun is a waste of time, if it's not productive it's pointless.

That everyone outside of our family is a bunch of barely sentient apes.

That if someone does something for you, they are just trying to manipulate you.

If a girl cries, shes manipulating you.

That physical affection in any form was dirty.

So many more, it was rough.

lizzy_786 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:58 on September 2, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That tidiness is crucial to the point where I would come home to find my toys and colouring books in the bin if they were left out in the table.

This wouldn't be as much as an issue if my dad wasn't the most untidy person on the planet who leaves things all of the place. I can't deal with things left anywhere because of him but he's the person that leaves them there! My dad has given me and contributes to OCD

gman4734 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:47 on September 3, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad told me that most couples move in with their parents after getting married. It saves money and helps you get your feet on the ground. To confirm this lie, my sister moved in for about a month after she got married.

4 years later, I was in a serious relationship and casually mentioned moving in with my parents. She couldn't believe it. I didn't understand, since "most couples" move in with their parents.

JSubatoi41 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:23:06 on September 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to manage money.

Hint: It's not "indulge your fine jewelry/antique furniture shopping addiction as much as you want, while refusing to get brand-name cereal because the generic is $0.32 cheaper and that's the difference between living in a house and living on the streets don'cha know"

Still trying to learn how to manage money properly...

RECOVERING101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:35 on September 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eating in front of the TV. Much classier eating at the table with the family.

dkasper6696 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:07 on September 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My stepmom is bipolar and verbally abusive, so for years I had 0 self confidence. A couple years out of high school and Im doing a lot better.

pdbdbomb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:08:50 on September 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents taught me that it's never okay for a dude to cry. Anything that happens, no matter what it is, is to be dealt with stoically. I remember VERY vividly running off to cry at my grandfather's funeral where they couldn't see me.

This isn't healthy. Cry when you want to cry. It'll be good to just let it out.

IMSOBM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:36 on September 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That crying is a sign of weakness and burdens others

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:31:19 on September 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

Nice girls don't make a fuss or argue with people - now I teach my nieces the exact opposite.

Overall though, awesome parents, got a lot to thank 'em for.

RevolutionaryCakeMix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:24:11 on September 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Taught that crying was not allowed. Now I gotta learn that its actually healthy to do. Tough though, when I don't have a place to practice, and if I try at home things can get violent.

areraswen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:04 on September 12, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom believed a lot of old wives tales like "you'll catch a cold if you're cold" so she'd always be nagging me to wear socks. Also she felt if you ate after midnight you'd gain more weight and things like that. Took awhile to educate myself on everything that was wrong. She was nice. She didn't do it on purpose. But she also wasn't very educated.

shecurve ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:06:01 on September 15, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I was a traitor and not loyal to my mother. She was abusive to myself and her boyfriend. I called her boyfriend to ask if they were still together, I was 13 at the time, and he said yes. Too bad she just drunkenly brought another guy home once again. She found out I was the reason her boyfriend came over that night and caught her this happened many times. I also finally opened up to my family as well about the abuse she put me through - not just because of the kind of mother she is, but with how she has been her whole life, they don't like her, nor do they speak to her. I am still blamed for rift between her and the family, she doesn't take responsibility for her actions and blames me and what I've told them for their lack of relationship. It look me years to realize that I was not in the wrong and was not an "unloyal little bitch" and the "cause of all of her problems and the reason people don't like her".

And yes I know that tattling isn't nice - but the things she were putting me through were VERY inappropriate for a child and I was hoping if I opened up to my family that they'd help me get out of there or help her to become a better person.

NewbieFapstronaut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:09:50 on September 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Do not talk to strangers (read as "to be afraid of strangers")

bickisnotmyname ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:55:19 on September 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Staggering racism

grumpyinsomniac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:59 on September 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism. My parents are Korean and they hate literally everyone. Even other Koreans (especially other Koreans). Once I started going to school in the States and started interacting with EVERYONE, I realized how narrow-minded my parents are. Thankfully, they started listening to my sister and me eventually and focused on individual people's personalities without looking at their ethnicity/race first. They still make the occasional stereotypical comment every now and then.

Fablemaster44 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:42:10 on September 30, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity

BirchSquid789 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:07 on October 13, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Catholicism. Thankfully, I was able to realize that it's biblically inaccurate and I got away from it around three years ago.

Horrid-panic-attacks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:28 on October 14, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't talk to strangers,

BreadCrumbles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:14:06 on October 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That it's not normal for a father to make sexual comments in front of his young children for example: grabbing at their asses "as a joke," inserting "lewd" references into playtime (like telling a story that involves women getting nude in an unambiguously raunchy way). That it's not normal for a man to ogle women and joke about leaving his wife/cheating on his wife with a younger woman in front of their young daughters.

Also I had to unlearn that my father's behavior was supposedly "normal behavior for men" and when (it was a never if) I got married I'd just have to deal with it. (Sometimes I worry that my mother was taught some really toxic things she never quite unlearned because she has never really made any attempt to call him out on his bullshit and treats everything he does like it's totally normal).

My parents also weirdly stigmatized basically any contact (whether "supposedly" platonic or otherwise) I made with guys and when I actual entered a group of friends that was actually mostly male I had to unlearn A LOT of assumptions and thought processes. It made social dynamics on my side a little awkward for a while, but I'm totally comfortable with it now.

Naturaerials ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:15:19 on November 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents told me that if I ate the crusts on my bread my hair will become curly. I actually fell for it and I already had pretty curly hair

ThrowingLamp_Shade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:12 on November 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pretty much every conservative Christian fact they taught me

Cheesus_Bacon_Crisp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:33:44 on November 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being homophobic and racist

Fablemaster44 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:16:37 on November 19, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Sex is bad bad bad

confuzzledoreo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:22 on November 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My opinions don't matter.

Jotenheimoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:17:09 on November 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They told me being older means being right. Yeah, Asian \o/ !

mama2hrb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:33 on December 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

that_guy_fry ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 13:00:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

ITT people who didn't search to see of "religion" had been covered

nolog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:37:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not quite familiar with the unwritten rules of this sub. Is it really frown upon, if people tell their story, no matter if somebody has already told the same one before?

AecostheDark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:17:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No, its fine and encouraged.

that_guy_fry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:02 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A 1 word answer like "religion" isnt a story. Ones that tell stories should be cool, but when 100 people write a 1 word response, it's better just to upvote than spam the thread with the same response.

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:59:56 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus

ens81 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Steak and other similar meats should only be eaten well done. I wish I knew what I was missing out on sooner...

HKjason ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hell yeah. My dad used to cook steaks like boot leather. Rare motherfucker, rare.

Schizotypal88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be passive aggressive and manipulative to people.

TheLastHaggis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Protestant Christianity. That swearing isn't funny. That sex before marriage is bad.

double-happiness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:55:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Feminism.

DazHawt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:57:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

1) To be seen and not heard.

2) That Jesus Christ is my Lord and savior.

Hail Satan!

Daktarii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:16:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God.

Grew up in a bible thumping priest who rapes boys can do no wrong catholic family.

404UserNotDetected ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:57:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Gender is very rigid. Societal norms regarding one's birth gender must be followed.

Luckily I've now discovered that this silly thing we call "gender" is a social construct created for us to engage more easily with each other. At least, that was the intention. In actuality, it makes gender a more confusing territory for many people who have not explored gender identities different from their own and for those of us who don't fit into the prearranged gender stereotypes.

And, not only that, but gender and the way it is discussed (or not discussed) as well as gender identity and presentation all vary by culture and location. Add that to the confusion and you've got stubborn people on both sides defending and opposing the old-school gender binary.

My opinion? Don't label yourself if you don't feel comfortable doing so. Don't force yourself to present a certain way of that doesn't feel right to you. Be yourself. If people want to try and change you to make themselves feel more at ease, then they could benefit from widening their outlook and learning how to take people as they are and accept them anyway.

Tru-Queer ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 02:00:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Swearing is bad for you. THE FUCK IT AIN'T. I remember as a pre-teen I started swearing like a prostitute with Tourette's. It just felt so damn good to be bad.

ThePrevailer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:57:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're not even doing it correctly...

Tru-Queer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I wasn't aware there was a correct way to swear. My parents never taught me.

3_headed_hydreigon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:22:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

E D G Y

Picklefingers69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:28 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Swearing indiscriminately.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

When you've gained a few extra pounds, only eat one meal a day until they're gone

PrincessBrideFanatic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:08:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

YIKES! So unhealthy!

MattProducer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:44:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Red meat can be pink in the middle and taste good. I'm 32 and I've only started to enjoy steak in the last 3-4 years. My wife has worked extremely hard to get me to the point where I'll try red meat.

And I actually ordered a steak for dinner the other night, which may have been the first time I've ever done that in my life!

lilac2481 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I used to order steak well-done, but now that I grill it at home it's always a little pink and yes it does taste better.

ToThyneOwnSelfBeTrue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mostly, that I am unacceptable.

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ theonecalledzach ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't worry bby ily

fishhippie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That disabled people are limited. I developed chronic pain disease and lost most of my hearing as a grew up and I was so upset at first because I thought it meant I couldn't do anythig with my life. Well now I've visited 3 continents, traveled across north America, gotten into college, lived on my own and won two crossfit medals so no. Disabled people are not and never will be limited.

NivlacSupreme ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:39:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I mean, they kind of are just physically sometimes.

melesana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

White privilege, middle class privilege, fat phobia...the more I think about it, the more I'll come up with, so this is enough.

non_clever_username ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That $1 per person at the table is an appropriate tip, no matter the cost of the meal.

Granted, they rarely eat at any kind of nice restaurant and rarely get anything but a meal and water, so often it ends up being not a completely terrible tip.

Still, when they took my brothers and me out to dinner, they insisted on paying so inevitably one of us had to "forget something at the table" or "use the bathroom quick before we leave" to go make it right.

Though they eventually figured that out and after some tense conversations, they now let us deal with the tip because they can't stomach paying what would be a proper tip unless we go to IHOP or something.

hubife13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You say "bless you" to people who sneeze and "are you ok?" to people who cough.

One of those started getting weird after a few in a row.

inta7imar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom called the laundry hamper the "hamper damper" because she thought it was cute for us to say it. I seriously didn't know it wasn't "hamper damper" until I said it repeatedly in front of my cool middle school friends.

Shadrach77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pork is bad for dogs. Beef is fine, I guess, but if you slip the dog pork, she'll get sick.

I'm 40 and I still can't bring myself to let the dog eat the tiny piece of cooked bacon I dropped on the floor...

filmingdrummer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eating well-done steak.

LaidBackMMO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wear a condom

aadharsh_2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That z was pronounced zedd and h was pronounced hech.

NivlacSupreme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I know right? some people think j is ji

Hyper_Risky_Mosaic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You don't avoid lumpy gravy by simply whisking it vigorously.

hot rue, cold stock. credit to foodwishes youtuber

PacJeans ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:53:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Late but here we go. Mixing foods, sauces, and liquids would cause might cause a chemical reaction that could hurt m. I love my Grandma, to be honest its not her fault she move almost constantly and never got the chance to get a good education between that, and VERY abusive family, and then going on to raise kids

beachbum34 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents always grilled our steaks well done. The first time I had a medium rare steak I was 25 years old and the restaurant mixed my order up with my husband's. It was a moment of pure enlightenment.

HeliotropePotatoes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm ugly just because I'm not stick skinny. And conversely, that I don't love my parents because I don't eat all the food my mom gives me. She seems to think that when I eat the food is supposed go to space and not my thighs.

nigheandonn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom taught me that a girl should be 5 pounds over 100 for every inch she is over 5'. So I should be 115 pounds. With my booty and my large chest (that she gave me) I passed 115 when I was 15 years old. I always felt like I was too big even when I was my smallest at 130. I had to learn that that was terrible advice and I'm not going to follow it!

Cristian888 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:16:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eating animal products

Arm_and_Slammer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad told me to yell "nigger" whenever I saw one of those stupid fucking jigs in the street. I know now that, that's the perfect way to say it! So......

LBCvalenz562 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:23:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I had to eat my steak well done... Slowly I went down to medium and my next step is medium rare.

YoungHeartsAmerica ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:53:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents were a lot like Ned Flanders parent who did not believe in discipline and let me do whatever i wanted. I had to learn to behave around strangers, and teach myself all about hygiene, and being a decent human being. A lot of reading and PBS made me an OK functioning human.

evolveDRoots ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:12:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I came in here for some laughs but shits depressing.

Frankiethe3rd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:48:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being respectful towards older people or authority figures, for example with teachers or older people it was always yes sir no sir no ma'm yes ma'm. Now that I'm older talking to my boss who is pretty chill is weird to me because they want me to be friendly as fuck and I have to fight the urge to be super respectful when speaking. Even when professors joke around with me it comes off as odd to me lmao

TLDR- I'm overly respectful but they want me to be chill as fuck

nikkitgirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:57:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I'm a boy (not their fault, they couldn't have known I would be trans)

That it's ok to have a marriage in which you don't even seem to like each other.

That it's ok to constantly show your children your disappointment in them and never point out their positive traits.

That it's good to do whatever your friends are doing whether or not it's the right thing to do

Yeah, my dad's awful

WhatIJustSaid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:37:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I feel like there needs to be some kind of a 'Bad childhood' filter on reddit.

The kind of things i had to unlearn:

-Beating up people until they have to be driven to the hospital doesn't mean you won the argument.

-The water you use for showers is not too expensive and there is no plausible reason not to shower at your home for consecutive years.

-Doin' things like getting engaged to the killer of your brother you do not. Ever. Like, in general.

-Theres only more sadness and sorrow at the bottom of that bottle.

A_Dany ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:19:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They told me that rare/medium rare steaks are raw and they will get you sick. They even looked mildly disgusted when I ate medium steaks

Osiris_Dervan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:24:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

But... medium steaks are basically burnt...

boboti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:30:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Fearing everything. I know my mother did it out of love, however with every nee situation I got scared and remembered what she told me and thus I never really did spontaneous new things..

denmaster4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:09:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I know what's going to walk through that door.

24 years and I still have no idea.

MBGA_HD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:15:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion. grabs popcorn

ZigZagDUCK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:15:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

2edgy4me

darrendewey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:22:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

cuntesticles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:23:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

god is real.

thehighschoolgeek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:23:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

Testiculesthemighty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:24:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:25:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That God was real lol

Harkonnen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:37:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

Wilreadit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:41:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Treat women like princesses. You got to learn to treat them like the bitches they are.

If a bitch is cool then she is ok. But if a bitch is shite, then you have to take her ass and break her ass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AHH0bdNKyM

AverageMerica ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:44:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't judge a book by it's cover.

I get my mom wanted me to not judge people, but I assumed everyone didnt judge and I never took care of my cover. People... life is 99% your cover, that's all other people will see and they won't dig deeper. Everyone will judge you by your cover alone.

Dont_Jersey_Vermont ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:58:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That God is real. And that a snake had lips & a tongue and could speak. And that an invisible man snapped his fingers and the Earth appeared, etc. etc.

hddkbxkx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:58:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

religion

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:58:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

religion

Mikeandmusic182 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:59:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not to have sex till I was 20 I had to unlearn that when I was 14

A_Sleepy_Panda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:17:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

They got me fat when I was young and I still can't fix it.

pm_me_ur_pudendum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:22:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Still trying to unlearn that I'm a worthless piece of shit.

ChoptankLive ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:00:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Lots of us out there. Keep at it.

pm_me_ur_pudendum ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:11:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Thank you.

wedonotglow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:24:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I had to learn not to be a close minded redneck all on my own. Thanks to the internet, it was made a lot easier.

RyanMZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:25:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That there's something wrong with tattoos and the people who get them. Seriously, it's just fucking ink; who cares? As long as it isn't hateful or tasteless (which I know are both subjective but you get my point), what does it really matter?

ChoptankLive ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:45:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Context, it's all about context. Other than native cultures where the marking has a meaning or message, European use of tattoos often symbolized travel to certain areas of the world or certain occupations which presented risks (diseases) or possible rough demeanor. We have only had the Internet for mass education for 20 years or so. Before that, Parents knew what they were taught or went out of their way to learn about. You cannot fault them for that. Besides, until the 1980s, many places did not regulate who could do it or where and things like Hepatitis can have a bad impact on your life, so the idea that it was best to avoid them was not so silly.

RyanMZ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:50:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're absolutely right; historically, tattoos have served many different purposes (which, admittedly, I know very little about) which could absolutely colour someone's opinion of them.

But in this modern age, a lot of the reasoning and rationale against artistic tattoos (that I've heard) doesn't really hold up and people can get pretty... creative about why they're morally abhorrent.

ChoptankLive ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:17:18 on August 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Agreed.

PythonMasterRace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:26:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Most of them are eyesores to me but it's up to you

DeadlyFlourish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:26:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism

rushilo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:30:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents always taught me to tip 15% but after working and watching my friends work in the service industry, I try to give at least 20%.

sparkynev99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:33:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Homophobia

noodlebamboo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:49:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That my sexuality didn't exist.

BobartTheCreator2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:50:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents are homophobic and transphobic, and I'm gay and trans.

Everyone always talks about having to come out to other people, but the hardest part is teaching yourself that you're not worthless. I've had to rewire my psychology twice, and I'm still in the middle of the second one. That's been hard.

AecostheDark ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:35:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Ok, can we please stop down voting people for putting their opinon in this thread? Reddit isnt your magic journal that only says things that you agree with. If you don't like someones story, just dont upvote it and move on.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:52:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom says chooseday not Tuesday.
Didn't know the difference for years.

rapcitii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:57:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everything ,honesty I grew up bitter because I had relearn all the lies they told me

80Eight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:01:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm still trying to stop using the phrase "that's mighty white of them".

I think I just need a good replacement phrase that means "doing the obvious decent thing" and is sardonic about it.

tastepdad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:03:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Black people are not inferior, thieving, illiterate mistakes by God. The racism in my house growing up was really bad. I'm just so glad that although I had wrong opinions and thoughts, I never spoke or expressed through actions anything outright hurtful towards anyone...then I started to form my own opinions and realized how wrong they were.

herpberp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:09:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

absolutely no shitting in public.

sometimes you can shit in public, if it's political speech.

dancaholic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:10:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That people of different sexual orientations are weird or even bad. They believed that's what the Bible said because that's what was only preached. I am still a Christian but I also learned on my own that all sins are created equal and therefore they are no different in Gods eyes than I am. They just sin differently than me.

mastermetall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:10:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That you need to be beautiful to be liked

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:16:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The N-Word

PalmBchPrincess99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:16:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

To be nice to everyone. Seriously, sometimes you shouldn't.

Mayrandify ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:16:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Basically that all bad neighborhoods are filled with African Americans and therefore African Americans ruin neighborhoods. My dad used a different word other than African American. I love my parents but damn can they be racist.

sconiate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:17:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

my parents taught me that weed is bad. I had to unlearn all the bullshit. Toker for life.

forever_stalone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:19:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

quinyolo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:20:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion, most specifically, the believe that we were the chosen one's.

toritxtornado ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:22:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

mathurawai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:25:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Caste system in Hindu society. Fuck that's like we made sub-religions because religion was not enough to destroy humanity.

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:35:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Young Earth Creationism

HilltownHippy25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:37:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I have to learn how to be an asshole when I need to be. My parents are devout Christians and taught me to turn the other cheek. This leads to being taken advantage of and walked on... Being a nice person by nature this happens to me a lot. I need to learn how to stand up to people and not take shit from em

BlueBanksWC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:39:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism, homophobia and religious discrimination.

iconboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:42:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

ledzepnpizza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:57:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Never to buy scented dryer sheets. My mom, for whatever reason hated scented dryer sheets. Was feeling rebellious a couple weeks ago and bought some scenes dryer sheets to dry my cloths with. I gotta say, you scented dryer sheet people know what's up. I'm 24

danwroy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:00:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How about a name change to "How did your parents abuse the shit out of you"

[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:10:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

AaronKClark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:15:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

Reaganson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:17:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That Democrats care about working people.

goldenbambi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:22:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

securitybreach ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:22:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

becomeyourowncong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:31:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents indoctrinated me and my siblings as jehovahs witnesses. High control cult. It wasn't until my early 30s that I started to figure things out for myself. Was scary at first but I'm happy now and I feel somewhat free. I learned about the actual history of the org. Learned about evolution and stuff like that. I'm not truly free because if I tell my family how I really feel about the organization they would probably never talk to me again. Cult control is strong. I'll probably be outed eventually but I'd rather go through that than indoctrinate my kids.

Sherlock--Holmes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:37:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

pavlovs_monkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:50:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hardcore fundamentalist Christianity. Pentecostalism, so like dancing in church and speaking in tongues and masturbation is a sin and 7 literal days Creationism.

flyingskybison ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

In my household growing up, it was understood that if you were upset about something you could figure it out yourself and get over it. No need to discuss and talk about your feelings with others. I never thought anything of it. I know that might sound bad, but in a sense I always felt like it made me more independent & in control of my emotions. However it still hinders me a lot in my relationship when I have trouble verbalizing how I'm feeling, though I have worked hard to get better about it.

paladindamarus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That steak can be cooked in ways other than "well-done shoe leather.". Every time my parents would put on a steak (whether is was barbecue or in a frying pan), they were always chewy, to the point where I just physically couldn't swallow a piece. To be fair, they were always well seasoned, but I just couldn't. Mom always said that cooking it any less was too dangerous, and also disgusting because nobody wants to eat a "bloody mess".

It was in my mid 20s when I went out for lunch with a friend, and he ordered his steak blue rare. I was intrigued, he let me try a piece, and I was hooked.

Now I enjoy sweet revenge. Anytime I get a steak with my parents, they have to watch me eat a nice, red, blue-rare slab of steak.

Squishy_Pixelz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That its always the oldest sibling in an argument's fault. Seriously my younger sister bullies me and my parents blame me. I have to completely ignore her to stay out of trouble

BenBobsta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That drugs are bad. They should have taught me that some drugs are bad, but not all of them. Some are awesome!

j0m1n1n ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That if you graduate college with a good GPA, you've got a bright future and steady income ahead of you for the rest of your life.

dum_dums ยท -17 points ยท Posted at 00:49:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eating meat.

At 19 I decided I had to be responsible for my own morality and my behaviour. I do not agree with factory farming so I shouldn't be buying any of their products.

[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:56:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I love how this is down voted more than the religion ones. People get more upset over you choosing not to eat meat than that.

Not vegan/vegg myself but really don't get the hate for it.

jb32647 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 02:32:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

If you can, try to get stuff approved by organisations like the RSPCA, those are almost always ethically farmed.

[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 06:31:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Are you referring to "meat" sexually or literally?

barrel0monkeys ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 03:48:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

Apollo23 ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 03:54:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

tehkeizer ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 07:11:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

probably been said. monogamy

my folks have been together since my other was 14 and my dad was 16. if was a weird convo when i told them that they were not normal. i let them know that i was a poly sort and explained what that was. they were totally cool and understanding as you would expect a couple that has been together for nearly 40 years to be.

Impun1ty ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:48:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Unconditional kindness :/

Yea.. I was Mr. Nice Guy.

fusepark ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 03:52:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Republicanism.

Direwolfox ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 03:57:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That God exists

pierreasd ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 04:50:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

religion

come at me bro

JackieBoySlim ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 05:18:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That god was real, and that marriage is a good idea

liavatrix ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 05:26:07 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That god doesn't exist.

Dokrzz_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:31:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

So you now believe in God?

liavatrix ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:07:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Nope

[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 03:59:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

cerindell ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 04:00:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

schmidgen ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 04:02:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

Playbackfromwayback ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 03:51:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion. Raised in a evangelical home. What a colossal load of bullshit.

407J-219 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:05:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That god is real

[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 05:42:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

religion and treating women too well.

the_eric ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:44:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm going to go the opposite direction and share something my mom told me when I was younger that I still keep with me to this day...

Look at people's intentions, not the outcome of their actions.

flicticious ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:40:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Xenophobia

mrfeeto ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:51:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

remrich90 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:52:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity.

IAmMohit ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:57:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion and associated rituals

CapitalRavenOriole ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:57:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

Ki11p8Ck ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:58:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Church.

DoverBoys ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:48:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

Wirejack ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:48:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Grew up Mormon. Was raised to believe gay people where unnatural and just making bad life choices. Also was told masturbation was a major sin.

Result? Atheist, bisexual, and like to masturbate.

Shoes4myFriends ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:14:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion. Many of the practices/rituals

TheLensOfEvolution ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:39:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

My immigrant mom brainwashed us to:

1) "Finish all your food... think of the starving people in Africa" - This makes you fat because you don't know when you're full. It's also inefficient and unhealthy.

2) "Don't waste money, spend as little as possible" - This makes you hesitant to go out with friends or go shopping. You'll probably be a cheap bastard, too.

3) "Stay home and study hard, get a good techical/professional degree, then a high-paying job, then a house. Your passion, fun, and happiness is secondary." - This makes you socially inept, working at a job you don't enjoy. You'll probably be a mindless drone, going through the motions of the rat race, with no lust for life, adventure, risk, or change.

Ermcb70 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 04:30:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Conservatism.

creedokid ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 02:41:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God

MorsJanuaVitae ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 03:42:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That there is a god

TheRamJammer ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:35:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

bdoz138 ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 06:25:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the police are good people and they are here for your protection.

DrMalware ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 06:49:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You should listen to you parents

Pace2pace ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 04:58:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Voting republican.

UniversalFapture ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That women want gentleman

Nostalk ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 05:14:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That god is real

iakt ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:36:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the self is a social construction.

akm-scout ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:58:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eh my parents seemed to want to be sure that they didn't "rub off" on me too much so that I just become a copy of them, which was/is cool

EFCgaming ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:17:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Truth is, it was that narcotics are bad I had always genuinely believed that marijuana, LSD etc were all really bad drugs that would make you stupid and ruin your life (even in moderation) And of course their are more addictive and powerful substances like ice and heroin that very well can ruin peoples lives, but I had to fully relearn everything I thought I knew about drugs.

Lupin_The_Fourth ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:18:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That divorced women with kids are used goods and good for nothing.

That shit is hard to unlearn.

Serpace ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:19:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

cdisdead ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:20:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

RELIGION

aykcak ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:20:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"The policemen are good guys. When you are lost, trust the policemen"

And

"It's in the news! Why would it be in the news if it wasn't real?"

riselikebread ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:22:36 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Catholicism

theunmentionable ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:24:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:24:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was brought up a Catholic. Even as a child I had my doubts towards religion but it wasn't until I was a teenager that I began to stray away from beliefs

lassenol ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:26:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity ....

Mortukai ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:27:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism. I love my dad, but my mother is a bigot.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:28:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Treat people how you would want them to treat you back.

big__sarge ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:29:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Food is a reward.

mertag770 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:30:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Mormonism.

Kalipygia ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:31:06 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

This is the Bible. It's true so do what it says.

DeathMetalDad ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:31:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That being a republican is the only way to fly.

TRUmichael ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:31:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Relegion is true + Relegion above all else

benjavari ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:32:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Catholicism.

Wolfe_Cola ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:33:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus is real

Return_of_MrSpanken ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:33:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Having to eat all the food on my plate. I put on a lot of weight from this one.

Ben_Chokin ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:35:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Catholicism

JunkyDrog ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:35:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Dont trust syrian or whatever ppl from in your country" ...

nickl220 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:36:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racial bias. I still have to fight off stereotypical thoughts of, say, hearing about a robbery and just assuming it's a black guy/Latino. Thanks mom. Your low class white prejudices have scarred me for life!

Dea_hazel ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:39:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That credit cards are the devil!! I mean I guess they can be if you are really bad with money.. But we all know that we as adults NEED a decent credit score to get ahead, which you can not get without any credit ๐Ÿ’ณ I know she meant well tho ๐Ÿ™ƒ

zapgunner ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:39:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That rachial slurs were okay because the person you were directing them toward expected them.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:40:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My name.

Morkelebmink ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:41:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Both my mom and dad are chauvinist and quite sexist and wanted me to be like them, I argue with them to this day about it.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:42:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism. Prejudice, and superstitions... Still work in progress

hangerj ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:43:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

sparta_reddy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:52:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

God

spectre73 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:56:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dressing, eating and behaving in "polite society." I'm often among the best dressed in a restaurant, at a play or concert because that was drilled into me. My mom still feels she has to change to go to places like Red Lobster. It's become somewhat of a running gag because whenever someone in our family now says "polite society" the response is "I have yet to encounter it." Truthfully it has sometimes saved me; when I was a college freshman I had to take an intro to music class. We could get credit for attending on-campus music recitals. I always wore dockers and a polo shirt, but others would come in t-shirts and shorts. Eventually the prof said he was getting complaints about attire and that anyone wearing t-shirts and / or shorts to a recital would not get credit.

jreykdal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:04:20 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I don't know.

I think that dressing a bit up for concerts, plays etc. shows respect for the performers. Not looking like a slob for restaurants shows respect for your fellow diners.

Not everything in this world revolves around you (not you-you but the individual in general).

NuclearMisogynyist ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:05:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism, homophobia,

rollerhen ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:07:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well my father was a racist member of the John Birch Society and was active in trying to get George Wallace elected president. And my mother was a practicing Catholic so I was sure I was sinning at every turn, so there's all that.

TLDR: Basically everything.

minminkitten ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:09:25 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My parents are racist. Not the kind of KKK kill all black folks racist but the soft bigotry that gets more accepted in the media racist. (For example my mom immediately assumes black people are lying and are lazy). When I made friends in highschool that were of a different ethnicity, I started questioning why my parents were so adament about this logic. Took me a while to educate myself on bigotry, why it exists, what does it stem from, etc. before I even felt confident standing up to my parents about it and telling them I was uncomfortable hearing about their racist stories. They still slip some in sometimes when they drink and now I just get downright upset about it.

Predictive ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:10:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My brothers were allowed more privileges because "they're boys".

Gman777 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:16:49 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Generally the whole "good guy always wins". Such a lie.

gary8 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:18:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

98rmanchester ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:19:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Humanity began with Adam and Eve. Thankfully it wasn't too hard because I'm not a dumb twat.

ZombiAcademy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:23:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

J_Cant_Box ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:28:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

CarpetScale ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:29:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

Mr_Bubbles69 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:35:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion... still have a lot of those shitty songs stuck in my head from time to time...

StoopidN00b ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:35:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That a Jewish carpenter made the Earth a few thousand years ago.

only_sometimes_haiku ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:41:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I was raised by wonderful parents.

In their successful attempt to mold me into a happy person and a good citizen, however, there was the underlying lesson that obligations are objectively real, and that authority is a cause of truth. This primarily took the form of expected faith and forced church attendance.

For the record, I don't fault them. I found the later challenge of adjusting my world view to be just as worthwhile as the more explicit lessons they taught.

It was important for me to unlearn that traditional approach to being a person.

Warwicky ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:42:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wearing every emotion on your sleeve and thinking that your emotions should guide your life.

DJ-Dev1ANT ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:45:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"There's no such thing as a free lunch"

I get free lunch all the damned time, mum. It's not like I don't already get paid to do my job, this is literally a freebie.

BigLeafLittleRainbow ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:53:19 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

CynicFloransss ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:15:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I dunno. I forgot.

bbhatti12 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:36:40 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

Kisaf ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:40:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad was a journalist and wanted to be a business man, The shit hes seen and heard and interviews he's taken changed him over the years. I had to unlearn looking at everyone and everything with doubt and pessimism.

ashleyschmashly ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:41:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That dinosaurs, evolution, and science are in fact real and not made up by Satan to lure humans into sin. I grew up in a very religious home.

jlmmlj ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:44:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

donlumpa ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:48:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

The golden rule.

whatever happen to it?

ben1481 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:49:48 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

bjgooey ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:51:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

guarapo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:51:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

religion. It took me years to undo most of the garbage effects of religious indoctrination

Sshanx ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:59:05 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus ..... that is all

kidbei ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:02:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus Christ.

Holigram ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:05:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:06:59 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Same here

non-zer0 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:10:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:11:14 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Racism and bad eating habits. I grew up in the south.

TheModestMouse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:27 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Grew up in the south, never had this problem in my area. However, my girlfriend and I still get strange looks when we go to smaller towns, but as long as we stay away from Cut-N-Shoot, Texas we are okay around here.

hadtocomment_ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:16:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Faith

hadtocomment_ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:16:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Faith

jaksef ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:19:50 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That people CAN and WILL love you unconditionally. That you're not a slutty POS.

And that you can just Febreze clothes and throw them in a dryer for a few seconds instead of ironing. Fools.

GOPJ1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

As long as the clothes are damp and thrown in by themselves or with few other items this does work

Mercyfall ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:32:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

yamaha2000us ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:10:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I am sorry but as a father of a 13 year old boy, questioning authority does not cover doing chores, homework, outdoor activities, family obligations. Telling parents you will get to things later means, missed deadlines (Garbage comes twice a week), Failing grades, lack of social skills. etc...

I witnesseda 15 year old boy tell his mother to 'Fuck' off in front of the extended family.

Kids cannot challenge authority to the point where they stop maturing.

Sometimes discipline must be used instead of motivation.

thesunscreen ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:03:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

$600 for two flat sheets and two fitted sheets for $600? I'm not talking about a bed the size of a room. I currently use a standard full set that I have cut and some sheet straps. The forward bunk is in the shape of an A. Anyway it will be a useful skill if I can get past feeding the thread through the machine.

PM_ME_UR_STONED_FACE ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:10:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Dad taught me that the tip shouldn't be on the tax and so look at the after tax amount and tip 10% it works out to about 15%. It doesn't, it's like 12 I've been under tipping my whole life

leehennesywhaddup ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:49:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I can't do anything by or for myself

pnrgi ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:17:26 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

How to tie my shoes.

My parents taught me the wrong steps, and the shoelaces would always come untied. I didn't figure that out until I was 23.

[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 04:13:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

[deleted]

ChaosWolf1982 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're right, the idea of God that they claimed made W. a "gift" certainly isn't real, except in the deluded minds of Republicans.

[deleted] ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 00:48:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

[deleted]

thinker99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm fine.

OrangeBall523 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:43:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"I'm well" only really makes sense if you are asking if she's ill. M-W entry 2 e under "good" is the definition people are using when they say "I'm good."

Coffee_Goblin_ ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 00:51:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Feeling guilty about everything. My dad didn't like to spank us, so instead he would guilt us. "My sweet little girl, I never thought you would ever do (x-y-z) It makes me soooo sad." or some variation of that.

I wished he would have just beat my ass and spare me the headfuck.

[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:58:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You can't win being a parent.

emilyrichardsonkR9 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:01:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Hitting your kids everytime they do something wrong is the best way to have social services on your back, and possibly your kids taken away from you.

You had it easy, be careful what you wish for.

Johnson_N_B ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:53:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Gee, I wish my dad abused me instead of telling me he was disappointed when I did something wrong. He didn't like to hit us though, what a shitbag."

Sounds like you had a pretty good dad to me.

serys_j ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:09:53 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

You're an idiot.

Coffee_Goblin_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:08:58 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I guess I didn't explain myself well enough. I see how people would think that I was a shitty brat. When I said he would guilt me about things he took it to the extreme. If I did anything wrong he would guilt me. Didn't do the dishes properly? I had to listen to him go on and on for several hours, yes hours, about how bad I was for not doing it correctly. How he just couldn't believe his little girl could slack off and do it improperly. I would want to go somewhere with my friends as a teenager I couldn't because one of my friends lived in a trailer park (which blew my mind because we lived in a trailer on land that belonged to family) and he couldn't believe his baby girl would lower herself to hang out with someone below her.

Then he would spout a bunch of bullshit about how we should be kind to those who don't have it as good as we do and that God have us what we have So we could help others. He would get on these religious kicks every few months where we would have to sit in the living room and he would grill us about the bible. God help you if you got it wrong.

After I married my husband and moved away I remember doing some laundry and not washing one of his shirts properly. I had a breakdown and sat next to the washer crying because all I could hear in my head was my father telling me how he couldn't believe that I would do something like that, how could I be so sloppy doing something incorrectly?

I do not have very little contact with my father now. I check in on him from time to time to see how his health is. Whenever I try and talk to him longer than a few days in a row it starts back up. I hate that I can't have a normal relationship with my dad, but I think he is actually mentally unstable.

stingray20201 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That I could be anything I wanted when I grew up. After being rejected by the Marines and Navy and failing engineering school in college, I realized maybe I'm not as smart as that kid from India with a full ride to college. I know they didn't want me to settle at a shitty minimum wage job for the rest of my life, and just want me to do my best, but my best won't pass a physics that I'd never seen before in college after missing opportunities in high school.

I had that one just waiting to go off

Edit: Couldn't join military for medical reasons

ChickenSoundSymphony ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:52:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That Vienna sausages are pronounced like the place in Austria, not vie-ayenna.

vijeno ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:18:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh that cries out for clarification.

Here in Vienna, we call them Frankfurter. Everywhere else in the Gernan speaking universe, they call them Wiener, just like an inhabitant of Vienna.

So you call them Wiener and pronounce them weener, like the body part... or not?

ChickenSoundSymphony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Well, the Vienna sausages we have here are a very soft, and have a flavor and texture consistent with potted meat. What I've always heard referred to as frankfurters we call hot dogs or wieners (weeners). Those are a little meatier, and depending on the quality of them are sold with or without a case, like a link style sausage.

vijeno ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:51:11 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Vienna sausages seem pretty much like our Frankfurters, so - consistent with everybody else's usage of the term.

That being said, I will always remain a Wiener.

Andy444444 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Conservative politics

Ryanz_OMFG ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Republicans are the best thing ever.

HeyGuysImJesus ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:42 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My dad had me convinced that I would learn all about the tooth fairy if I went to college but no, I just learned power electronics and embedded processing. Wtf dad.

N3koChan ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:55:30 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Morality

candyman337 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 07:01:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That the skynet would take take over the world and judgment day would come

CakeMagic ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 07:02:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

A lot of bullshit never caught on to me when I was a child. It just didn't made sense to me... I'm glad the internet was there so I had access to a wealth of knowledge, even if a lot of it on the internet are bullshit.

FaZeBlast ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:22 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Smoking is bad

imightbeweird_ ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

I_Am_Dynamite6317 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:56 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

I3ombastic ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 07:09:37 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Wow y'all had some really shitty parents

evolveDRoots ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 07:10:35 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Everything

[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 07:11:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What did your school system teach you that you had to unlearn?

[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 07:12:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

murder

micromorte ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 08:06:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That intelligence is an intrinsic quality.

My grandma taught me that when something is remotely hard, you can simply ask someone else to do it for you. When I got to college I had no idea how to study because nobody told me you have to practice things to get better at them.

Fucked up my GPA because of that and I'm still angry about it.

s4sdiplomatafriend ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 08:29:34 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

reLIEgion, amirite? DAE ATHEISM ???

magnament ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 08:58:03 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That both is not pronounced bolth

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 09:03:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There are different ways of pronouncing things....

magnament ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:07:38 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mom had a residual lisp.

[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 09:20:21 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I pronounce it "bolth" and no-one in my family has a lisp and neither to I.

Henkatoni ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 09:28:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

BLM

BritneeB ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 09:29:10 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Oh man my dad :

Backpacks aren't too heavy for the couch You won't break the mouse, tv remote, etc for using it in its intended way (we had to click the scroll bar instead of rolling the wheel) The stove being dirty was absolutely my moms fault. Republicans are generally assholes. Democrats usually have a good idea of what's going on. Smoking pot won't kill you (even though my mom totally smoked every so often) Don't be afraid to ask things. Yoga pants are totally acceptable forms of clothes for running errands, taking a road trip, etc. coke is way better than Pepsi. Sex isn't awful (thanks mom) It's ok to not be thin. Poor people on govt assistance aren't automatically bad people who are lazy.

My parents were interesting. Good people but screwed values.

pogiethefluffle ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 09:32:04 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That God exists

michyprima ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 09:32:41 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That God exists

Saduxide ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 09:33:33 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion

Woodzee ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 10:07:31 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eating animals, drinking calves milk and eating hen period hahaha

Wondeful ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 11:00:15 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Eating habits. They have no idea what a normal portion size is and every recipe is "add heavy cream" or "add brown sugar."

That's not even cooking.

Charge36 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 11:00:28 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Catholicism

Meateous ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 11:02:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Near everything...fucking christ....

SpaceGeneralAmerica ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 12:05:13 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Not much really. In fact, I used to be a gay hating homophobe when I was younger, like, 11, or even younger. I even agreed with Hitler targeting gays in the holocaust. However, it was thanks to my Christian upbringing and my mother that I grew out of this, specifically, "Love thy neighbour." My mother explained that as Catholics, we regard homosexual acts as a sin, but not the people. Really changed my perspective, thankfully.

Things I had to unlearn? Well, I would say fanatical opposition to abortion. I am still opposed to it, but not fanatically, and only support it in cases of epictice pregnancy.

ManyPoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:33:52 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pero como puedes pensar en esas cosas sin religion? Creo que sin religion, sentimientos como eso no sea posible.

SpaceGeneralAmerica ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:48:11 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

What?

ManyPoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:12:24 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Pero como puedes pensar en esas cosas sin religion? Creo que sin religion, sentimientos como eso no sea posible.

SpaceGeneralAmerica ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:06:37 on August 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I used google translate, and respectfully ask you to stop.

reversEngineer ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 12:44:53 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Jesus and Finish Your Plate

Ehecatli ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 12:51:57 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Heteronormativity

Wurtle ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 13:11:16 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

My mum was taught to save her money to buy things, I learnt that id have to borrow money from the bank to buy my own house and car. She rented her entire life and drove beatup cars but once I got a loan for a nice reliable car she finally decided to get a car loan herself.

PrisonLove ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 13:15:17 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

What a waste of time, energy, and mind share.

goldenmirrors ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 13:15:18 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Religion.

Mazi_L ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 13:43:32 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

No Jerry you can't make a living off video games, Jerry stop making does stupid vlogs Jerry (I invented vlogging btw) focus on school Jerry, Don't pull it out in public Jerry

eyose ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 14:09:46 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Being nice. In this day and age "nice" gets you no where. Can quite confidently say after being an ass hole my quality of life has improved 7 fold.

PotatoSnipes ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:10:24 on August 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Kissing my ass , until 5th-6th grade. Good thing i still faced reality from a younger age. (Partially)

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 04:14:00 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

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Whiskey_Cures ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:54 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Honesty IS the best policy. Silence is Golden. These 2 rules are not at odds. Just be a better judge of character now that you have lived a little.

dan_buh ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 04:30:55 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

White privilege.

DspaJ ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:03:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That Christ died for my sins. I didn't crucify him. I wasn't even life at the time. Christ died for the sin of Adam. Adam obeyed a woman over God. That was his test and he failed so Christ died in order to restore the promise of Eden and heaven. The choice between heaven and hell is yours and yours treat each other according to the ten commandments or face eternal damnation.

[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 05:45:08 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

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Diversionthrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:31:09 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

It is important. It may not always be an advantage, but it is important.

If you disagree, try keeping a job as a hateful, dishonest person. Try maintaining a friendship or relationship of any kind. You will fail at each of these.

Humans are social animals. Keeping a functional society means interacting within the parameters of what is considered to be "good". Honesty is included in these parameters to a certain extent.

We have always killed or isolated the "bad" people in our communities, and continue to do so today. Our survival depends on a higher percentage of good and honest people than bad and dishonest. A very simple example would be a comparison between high and low crime neighborhoods.

Both are very important qualities in a person. Perhaps the most important.

Wackyal123 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:44:47 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

"Slow clap" to the people who said religion. How original.

kestrel808 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 04:20:43 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity

PetraEcthelion ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 06:32:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Christianity.

[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 07:11:45 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*

white people matter so this was downvoted by a bunch of racists?

Simkill-666 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 09:35:01 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

That eating meat and drinking milk is good for you. There's actually a lot of independent research showing both are really detramental to your health, causing cancer, breast tissue growth and abnormalities, uterus damage and heart disease, and that's ignoring the massive issue of animal suffering and exploitation.

thisispannkaka ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:35:44 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

And there are alot of studies that says milk has no correlation with higher mortality.

Simkill-666 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:19:02 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There are also studies showing that a diet containing large intakes of fat leads to increased weight loss. You have to take scientific studies on a per case basis and check who funded the research. I large problem with scientific research is that a lot of it is funded by organisations that have a large stake in the research showing a particular outcome, like the government, the dairy industry, the meat industry etc, who are quite prepared to force that particular outcome by turning to the research team and saying 'If your research is leading to a particular conclusion that's damaging to our position, we're pulling the plug.' and putting the scientists out of a job until they find a new contract elsewhere.

You can only really trust research that is free from any bias from its sponsors.

Osiris_Dervan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:15:39 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

There are no foods which don't damage your health in some way if you look at them hard enough and go mental over very small percentage changes eg. banana's increase your chances of most cancers, as they are mildly radioactive.

Saying that meat and milk are 'really detramental[sic]' to your health is massively overstating the issue - the amount and types of exercise you do will have a vastly greater effect on your health than these, as probably would the distance you walk around someone who's smoking.

It's fine if you want to be vegan for ethical reasons, or because you don't like the thought or taste of eating animals/animal products, but claiming that a vegan diet is actually healthier than you than a non vegan one is bollocks and is one of these myths that constantly has to be debunked.

Simkill-666 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:43:51 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm not sure why you have come back with such an aggressive and attacking response. It's pretty common to think like yourself, but that's because you haven't spent the time that I have looking into these things. I was a meat eater all my life up until 2 years ago as I spent a long time researching both sides of the argument for and against a vegetarian diet, which soon led to a vegan diet once I'd soaked up as much information as I could, including ethical issues like you mentioned, but you brought that up, not me. Educating yourself is a personal choice that everyone has the opportunity of doing (I don't really care if they do or not), as long as I know I'm doing the right thing for myself based on information that's openly available. How well you learn (choosing a strategy of learning and vetting the sources) also makes a big difference. Googling 'Why is meat bad for you' for example would be a pretty poor way of finding out a correct answer, the same as googling 'Why do aliens keep abducting me' would be a pretty poor search, as you'll get articles telling you about aliens motives when they don't even exist (at least, not here abducting people). I guess where I'm going with that, is that the internet has a pretty good way of showing you exactly what you are looking for, and nothing else, which is actually a really bad thing when it comes to unbiased independent research.

Osiris_Dervan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:12:23 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

I'm sorry if I came off aggressive, as that wasn't my intention. However, that eating meat is unilaterally bad for you is a myth that relies on bad use of stats and also not comparing both sides of a choice, as well as working with people's inability to process very large or very small number properly. I've done a large amount of stats in my life, and whenever I read the source articles for these pieces of research the risks stated are significant (in that they do exist) but small compared to other risks. Newspapers then cherry pick particular stats and print them out of context:

eg 'Processed meats increase chances of bowel cancer by 17%!' - this means actually means roughly 1 more in 100 people who eat processed meat would get bowel cancer at some point in their lives, over the ~5 in 100 who would anyway.

You, like most people, will be doing (or not doing) many things that cause more than a 1% increase in some particular cancer risk over your lifetime, some significantly so - you cut back on coffee, so you're now drinking 1 cup a day instead of 5? 36% increase in oral cancer. Working shifts? 30% increased chance of breast cancer (or about 3% more people).

Basically, the risks you reduce from stopping eating meat are tiny compared to other risks that you don't change large parts of your life to try and avoid. The 'massive issue of animal suffering and exploitation' that you actually brought up first, is a decent reason to become vegan, but health is not one.

FYI: starting your response admonishing someone for being aggressive, then in your next sentence ad hominem attacking their knowledge? Dick move.

randarrow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:51:58 on August 21, 2016 ยท (Permalink)

Don't apologize dude, you were on point.