๐๏ธ BlakeShelby ยท 1915 points ยท Posted at 06:06:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 3954 points ยท Posted at 13:49:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
If you're struggling getting access to a scientific paper because it's in some obscure journal you/your institution don't subscribe to, just e-mail the author that is listed for contact and ask for a copy. Scientists love nothing more than seeing people wanting to read their papers and will happily send you a free copy/pre-print draft. I've never run into an issue with this strategy and I can usually get the paper within 48 hrs.
Edit: Additional tip, ask them questions! Scientists can talk for hours about their research (as can I) and will answer every question you have. Remember, people love nothing more than talking about themselves (or their work).
Works for any discipline, really. Going through graduate studies now for journalism/English and it's making papers a breeze. The same goes for authors who write the obscure/small books that professors love to pick to prevent you from just downloading a PDF, I've gotten quotes directly from the author to me for essays, and that always impresses your profs.
[deleted] ยท 166 points ยท Posted at 16:17:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, asking the authors themselves for quotes! Now that's a trick I'll be using :)
No more of that "interpreting what the author meant" stuff. What did the author mean? Well the author meant ["quote from the author"]. Source: The author.
Lol, that's cute. English professors don't let silly things like direct quotes get in the way of figuring out what an author is saying. Look up Death of the Author - an influential essay on literary criticism that argues the authors interpretation of their own work is meaningless.
I personally think it's bullshit and is used as an excuse for English majors to find patterns that aren't there.
That's a dire misreading of Barthes. His point wasn't that the author's interpretation was meaningless, just that it shouldn't be privileged. The text should speak for itself.
But the problem is here, you're effectively saying that you as the reader can interpret whether a change was due to the author's interpretation or not.
The first and second editions are separate works. That is also how the special editions should be read as well. The idea of a universalizing canon is a marketing gimmick. Again, the text should speak for itself.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:03:30 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It would be poorly written, sure, but it wouldn't be the first time a literary inconsistency has occurred. Authors make mistakes, or sometimes they release incomplete sets of information that they want to retcon. In many cases, it does become necessary to treat works that seem connected as separate entities.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:18 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would disagree.
Are you thereby implying that Han Solo in fact didn't shoot first? Because that obviously means you're wrong about everything.
You are correct, but this isn't how it is taught or applied to students. I had three consecutive English teachers that simply used this as an excuse to ram-rod absurd analysis down our throats.
Sometimes the curtains are just blue Mrs. Polly.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:43:35 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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fishred ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:38:10 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of the things that makes literature interesting is that, like any other form of communication, there can be some signal loss between what one means to say and what one actually says. (There can be an even bigger gap between what one means to communicate and what one actually communicates, since communication necessarily involves some processing by the non-speaking party.)
I assume just about everyone has had the experience of the argument in which one person says something, the other responds and the first says "that's not what I meant!" We've probably all had the experience of being both parties in this argument. The thing is, the first speaker may well be right in the sense that they know what they meant to say. But the second speaker can also be right in that what that person said also means something other than what they meant to say.
One of the things I love about literature is that there are so many potential readers to find meaning other than/in addition to what one meant to say. As a writer, I know what I mean when I write, but I don't have real control over what the text means. As a reader, I can make assumptions and arguments as to what the text means, but can't always know for sure what the author meant. I find both of those questions--and the gap between those questions--potentially interesting,
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:44:51 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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fishred ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:05:27 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:21 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We should contact him and get a quote from him to settle this.
Omvega ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 19:09:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ha, thankfully the trend of "what did the author really mean? " is falling out of fashion (in academia, anyway) in favor of "what does the reader take away from this?".
nicholt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:34 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like that.
Omvega ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:10 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me too! It makes my job more fun and less researching exactly HOW depressed Emily Dickinson was.
I can, I haven't, I will someday when I'm published, the TL;DR is: I made it, so it's mine, and I decide what it means. Go ahead and make your cutesy little headcanons and fanfics and whatever; I'll even go so far as to provide licenses to sell derivative work if I like it enough. But if I say it's not like that, then IT'S NOT LIKE THAT. You don't tell car makers what the pieces of their cars do, so I don't see why artists don't get the same respect.
Because art is interpreted. If I read a poem, and I feel sad, it's because I think it's a sad poem. You saying "No it's a happy poem" changes literally nothing.
I actually did understand it. It's more nuanced than how I presented it, but my real complaint is how it's used by teachers (to be fair most of mine sucked) to justify any and every interpretation.
how would you cite it? you have to add a source that everyone who reads your paper can look into it and check if it's legit. just writing "the author told me face to face" seems shady as you can't prove he actually said that without recording the conversation and publishing the tape.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:25:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"I like to suck dick" (/u/AmericanSocialist, personal communication, 7/23/2016). well, yeah. i was advised by every teacher to never use anything that can't be looked up. makes sense because nobody can tell whether i write bullshit or not. personal interviews shouldn't be included in papers
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:16:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uhh, I mean...most academics do cite interviews for their books and papers. If you've ever read a book on Kissinger for example, like half the citations are personal interviews with him or people who worked with him.
You can't "look up" an interview, but you can cross-reference it with the interviewee...
Thanks! I figure if I want to be a journalist I'd better get my interviewing and research skills up to scratch!
notjawn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:58:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Best of luck I'm a communication professor and I used to teach video news editing we'd be so excited when we had a student like you who goes the extra mile and produces quality work. No doubt your profs brag about you to colleagues and friends.
It's where I post my sad alternative rock music that I make! :p
[deleted] ยท 93 points ยท Posted at 16:24:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read askreddit questions like this all the time regarding loopholes, and this is the only one that I've seen that's ever going to be extremely helpful for me. Seriously, thank you for this. You've saved future me a shit ton of time doing research for papers that I'll have to do in September.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:29:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, I'm glad it helps! This has saved my ass on numerous occasions as well as introduced me to people in the field I may have never gotten in contact otherwise.
A website you may want to remember is scihub.io. Saved my ass several times a day.
Shymain ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 15:48:18 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, this is super useful to me! So many times I've been looking at scientific crap and I want to check out the actual study but it's always behind a paywall! Thanks for letting me know about this!
R.I.P. Cofounder of Reddit Aaron Schwartz. He was prosecuted by some dumb cunt for trying to free this information that goes behind a paywall by private companies making millions off of other scientists and students work. He was busted stealing documents from an MIT server that should not have been behind a paywall anyways, and ended up committing suicide in the end.
You should watch the documentary The Internets Own Boy, it's about Aaron's case and the final outcome.
I know this is non-sequitur, but we're talking about paywalls for data that should be free anyways, and not the profit of companies like JSTOR
Actually this website is even faster than emailing the author:
http://sci-hub.cc/
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:00:43 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's also illegal. No way I want my published work to be associated with illegally gotten papers or my institution to know I use the site. There's also rumors that it's kinda shady...
But when the legal way could or should be justifiably illegal, Then fuck going the legal route. These companies would be making money off of work that took you as a student or professional countless hours and years of education and work and hundreds of thousands of school tuition money, and you think that's okay? I think you're missing the point.
Dups_47 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:47:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do you feel about using SciHub?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:52:11 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's dishonest regardless of how much you hate the publishing industry. There are legitimate ways to acquire the research paper...
But if I've gotta read hundreds of journal articles that I don't have institutional access to, there's no way I'm going to waste time emailing individual authors when I could just access the papers in seconds on Sci-Hub.
Also if you want to access a paper but you're not part of an institution with access, your local public library may subscribe. I'm a few years out of grad school and work for a nonprofit but like to stay up to date with best practices for program evaluation and can get a lot of articles through my county's library system.
so i assume you're a scientist/researcher too. if you have your papers published, the publisher wants to make a buck by selling access to said papers. does the contract include exclusive rights meaning you aren't allowed to publish your stuff somewhere else?
HugoTap ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:00:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, which is why you can't double-dip on, say, data from one paper and put it in another without referencing the original paper.
do i assume correctly that giving a copy of your paper to anyone who asks, just like OP presented as a loophole, would be a violation of that publishing deal thus his advise would be incitement of breaking a contract?
I've never seen a publishing agreement that doesn't reserve the authors right to use their work for personal use, which includes distributing it on an individual basis. Maybe that's field specific? (I'm in ecology)
HugoTap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:09 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This I'm not entirely sure. I think technically this might be true, but if it is it's not something that is enforced.
Keep in mind, some of us don't even have access to the actual paper (maybe the final draft before sending out to the editors in some cases).
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:42 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on the field actually. A lot of papers (substantial minority) in economics have been previously posted online as 'work in progress' aka working paper. Those previous versions are usually almost identical to the work that is published.
Thank you for this. I'm glad this is currently the top comment. Its about bettering yourself while making people feel good and engaging others. I imagine a lot of people are going to say how to trick people and promote theft. This is just good honest loopholing here and I commend you.
I've learned that if it is publicly funded research (state, county, federal), even if it's published in a journal, the authors have to give you a copy of the paper. Another reason why there is no hesitation if you ask directly.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:55 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Many journals also allow researchers to publish their papers on their own website - it's often work checking the corresponding author's page and seeing if they have the PDFs available if you don't feel like emailing someone.
Couple years ago for a group project in college we had to write what was virtually an accident report for a lighting tower that collapsed and killed a guy about 30 years ago. So usual group project etiquette, im the one doing most of the work, i try to give the other guys stuff to do but we have to run with virtually all my own research and my entire powerpoint until litterally the DAY we need to do our presentation and the laziest guy in the group bursts in with the actual fucking accident report from the engineering firm in America !
He couldent find enough info online so he emailed the company direct and got a reply, they happily sent the whole report to some random kid in the UK. I was totally blown away - i never looked at him the same after that because it honestly wasnt even something that had crossed my mind. So yeah, after that 4 of us sat around 1 computer first thing in the morning and within about 2 hours created the best, most accurate presentation out of the entire class. All thanks to the laziest guy in our group.
Can confirm, this works. I got the primary author to get nostalgic on me because I explained my backstory and he said it sounded like him when he was in grad school.
Huh, I wish I would have thought about this in grad school. If I ever came across an article that I really needed for a research paper that I didn't have access to (which was really rare thankfully), I would ask for an interlibrary loan via my school's library. It would always take fucking forever for them to get it for me.
Wow thanks. I'm about to go into my final year of Bio medicine. I can't believe I have never thought of this. This will definitely come in handy for my dissertation.
MYC0B0T ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:54 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even easier, just search for the university + professor's name. You'll find their research page, and very often they will provide a direct link to the pdf.
I've also had a friend to this for an obscure accounting textbook she needed and was unavailable. She emailed the author and he sent her the book and his phone number for her to ask him questions if she had any.
CMOS222 ยท 792 points ยท Posted at 18:02:47 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I don't know if I would call this a loophole and I don't think it applies anymore, but I thought it made a great story.
Back in the 80s there was a human rights dissident who got kicked out of Bulgaria and got asylum in the United States. He hated Soviet-style communism, so he figured out his own private way to get back at them. Once a month, he would write a letter to a prominent Soviet dissident (Sakharov, etc.) but before he mailed it, he would get it insured at the post office against it being opened. The USSR mail service, naturally, would intercept it and open it to read the contents, but because they opened it, they would have to pay the insurance ($400). If they didn't, they would get thrown out of the International Postal Union, and the IPU would allow this guy to do this, as long as he didn't overdo it.
So once a month, he would mail off his letter, and a few weeks later, receive a check courtesy of the government of the USSR, for $400. I thought this was ingenious.
EDIT: I got curious about it, called Canada Post (in a faked Russian accent :) ) and asked them about it, very carefully, without disclosing my real intentions. Very nice, helpful lady from Canada Post head office told me that the maximum they could insure a letter for was the actual value of the letter itself, i.e., the paper. SOL, but it was fun to look into it. Read a lot about human rights activists in Czechoslovakia. Still feel bad about misleading the nice lady at Canada Post
madmars ยท 164 points ยท Posted at 18:44:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Use a VPN with server locations in 'poor' countries when buying airline tickets.
I managed to buy flights with Lufthansa from Frankfurt, Germany to Bangkok, Thailand at 300 EUR directly from the airline through my VPN in Argentina. From Germany where I reside the exact same connection was 570 EUR, from Russia 490 EUR, Romania 440 EUR and Indonesia over 1000 EUR (which I don't really understand).
Lufthansa only asks for nationality, passport number and credit card information during the process, all of which I enter truthfully, so they can't blame me for trying to cheat them.
Edit: Use your browsers private / incognito mode when shopping for tickets, otherwise they might read your cookies and it won't work.
Edit 2: Also works for other services and digital subscriptions (Steam, Adobe Creative Cloud).
Uww ยท 549 points ยท Posted at 11:18:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just a warning: Steam are known for banning people who do this
Li0nhead ยท 2681 points ยท Posted at 13:11:37 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Further warning: if you are trying to book a flight on Steam you may be on the wrong site.
Yep, but if you gift steam games from a throwaway account to your main account, they will leave your main alone.
And since I can add unlimited throwaway email accounts to my paypal, they can't block that way either (previously they'd block credit cards, so it was a bit more tricky to circumvent with virtual cards).
The one I used back then seems no longer available, but https://spectrocard.com/ was recommended by a friend - simply buy a PaySafe card in any supermarket, fuel station or whatever, pay cash and use it to fund your credit card. Comes with a fee of course, but that's the price you pay for anonymity...
He is using dubious ways to pay less than he should. About your question, you can't "import" digital goods, but you pay taxes on them just like you do on everything. In this case he is not scamming Steam but the IRS.
Don't you pay taxes in your country for the things you buy, you dense individue? It's the IRS if you live in the US, or whatever government organization you pay taxes to in your country.
Oh so I should tell inflation to freeze for a few months at least until Steam's next big sale. Yeah. That will stop my money from being worth less in dollars as time passes
Many companies pay lesser wages to workers who live in poorer countries, even those who do equivalent skilled labor. Why shouldn't the common Westerner be able to exploit these economic differences in the same way?
Not to mention that if a game is region blocked, you will need a VPN to play the game every time you want to. Steam will block the crap out of that if you try to play with your current location.
notjawn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:05 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was about to say this is kind of bad as the Vegas Vacation "tip." They're gonna be on to you and then blacklist you certainly form their airline if not get you on a government no-fly list.
Use google flights, I've used a bunch of these cheap flight sites and IMO nothing is as good (except maybe Kayak). It can give you cheaper flying tips and prices by date so you can pick the cheapest day to arrive/leave (when you click on the date box)
Often arriving/leaving on tuesday/wednesday/thursday is cheapest but using the date tool google flights can show something totally different. Showing prices by date is a mandatory check in my book
Prices are lowest when you search on wednesdays or thursdays but I have doubts that time of day matters as some have said.
When your leaving date is either around 2 weeks or 6 weeks away is usually when it's cheapest
Air fare prices make no sense, remember this ๐
It's worth checking out the map view on google flights, you might wanna go to a certain city in a country but find it's wayyy cheaper to fly to a nearby city instead. This is more for changing your plans on the fly, e.g. Munich looks like fun to go to, but Salzburg in nearby Austria is cheaper (I believe...from the UK...)
Note on airmiles:
airmiles don't really tend to get you the cheapest flights unless you're trying to save money on nicer flights. So instead of going for economy with all those air miles you could for the same price potentially go first class(?) or with a nicer airline instead. If this interests you then find out what your country's airmiles scheme is and you'll find you can earn them pretty easily spending money you would've spent anyway
BONUS, hotels:
And google hotels, it's very similar to google flights but for hotels and it's pretty good ๐ I believe hotels tend to be cheapest when they're closer to the date but it's worth having a look for yourself
Regarding Google Flights specifically, I've found that they don't always have accurate information and will claim a lower price than the ticket actually costs and sometimes list flights for dates that the airline they list doesn't actually have a flight.
I live in Asia right now and have had this issue with Google Flights a bunch of times over the last two and a half years.
It's worth checking out the map view on google flights, you might wanna go to a certain city in a country but find it's wayyy cheaper to fly to a nearby city instead. This is more for changing your plans on the fly, e.g. Munich looks like fun to go to, but Salzburg in nearby Austria is cheaper (I believe...from the UK...)
Used map view. Discovered us here in Melbourne are pretty far from the rest of the world haha
A note of caution on googling hotels: For some reason Google often likes to show a date 2 weeks out from the current date and offers a rate and booking options. 9 times out of 10 the bookings are non-refundable. Before you book or call the hotel arguing that Google shows a cheaper rate than the hotel quotes DOUBLE CHECK YOUR DATES!
Source: Am a Front Desk Manager who is tired of arguing about deceitful 3rd party practices.
Related: If you're shopping for airline tickets and decide to come back and look again later, clear your cookies. This isn't a loophole, just a way to avoid getting screwed over by sites like Kayak that show higher prices if you've done the same search multiple times.
I believe this was proven false. There was some challenge offering some money to anyone who could prove that cookies (and previous visits to a travel site) increased price on following visit(s). No one managed to do it. May have been on reddit actually.
There's a standing million dollar reward for any psychic that can prove their abilities, but everybody still gives poor psychics a hundred bucks a pop for deliberately unproven "insight". People are idiots.
Except it did, it was just 'Mind Reading' was a complicated process of picking up physical/verbal/emotional ect. cues, directing conversation, applying environmental confusion , using speciously vague language and predicting statistical human characteristics.
I don't code so I don't know what you'd have to know, but I'm sure there could be a trick to it.
Edit: Jesus fucking christ you people are dumb. Psychics can't read your mind. Psychics have made well over a million dollars pretending to. You're basically denying Miss Cleo the TV psychic doesn't exist because taro cards are fake. A trick doesn't have to actually be magic to take your money. The person I'm arguing with wasn't even close to the stupidest person here.
Except it did, it was just 'Mind Reading' was a complicated process of picking up physical/verbal/emotional ect. cues, directing conversation, applying environmental confusion , using speciously vague language and predicting statistical human characteristics.
You're saying "Mind reading" happens BUT it's not about reading minds. So what's your point ? Parent comments were about mind reading not being something that exists, you're not disproving it.
I don't code so I don't know what you'd have to know, but I'm sure there could be a trick to it.
A trick to what ? Make a website show something different if a cookie is present ? Well that's what I said... yes there is.
You can call it a misnomer if that helps you understand. Mind reading does not equal the actual reading of a mind, but it's still a trick, still exists, and up until the last century or so was quite an effective one for what it was designed for.
A trick to what ?
Creating a barrier between the evidence and the million dollars. I assume with a population of people who know exactly how cookies interact with proxies n' stuff it would have to be clever, but I don't know enough to postulate.
If I had the funds I'd offer a one-million-dollar challenge like jref for anyone who can offer a theory on how can this conversation be construed as anything else than trolling.
/u/blindfoldedninja was trying to explain to /u/3423553453 that mind reading being a pseudo-science and mind readers not being real are not the same thing. Which means tricks work when they trick people. This was explained very simply to you, and at no point did you ever get trolled. If you failed to understand this I can't help that.
Yeah prove your psychic, collect cash, get abducted the next day and spend the rest of your life locked away in a government facility. I'm not a psychic but even I can see that one coming.
Actually I've had it happen to me. I wanted to test this theory so I was using two different computers and multiple airline websites to book tickets to Mexico and I saw different prices for the same exact flights. The differences were up to $200 the more I checked.
I was in a long distance relationship so bought the same round trip ticket many times. I have seen the same website list the same flight number for less just by opening incognito.
That was a couple of years ago tho. The real thing is booking in advance and being able to fly midweek.
u/Marvinmega says: "Online advertising professional here. You need more time between first view and second view, also this is mostly used on charter and package deals. I work in Europe and that's how it works here. (Though it's used less and less)"
Amp3r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:47:09 on July 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I find this hard to believe. I didn't know about the prize and admittedly it could have been a coincidence, but:
I searched for flights on kayak one day, then went back and looked the next day on the same computer and found that they were more expensive. I tried to show my girlfriend the prices later that day on my tablet and found they were back to the original prices.
Hmm, thanks for linking. I tend to agree it's probably a myth, but I'm not sure I buy some dude on reddit making a limited time offer with a specific protocol he defines proves or disproves anything.
It's just that I didn't buy a normal airline fair but a vacation package on the airlines webpage. And it's not a major airline either but one that only flies during the summer in Europe.
u/Marvinmega says: "Online advertising professional here. You need more time between first view and second view, also this is mostly used on charter and package deals. I work in Europe and that's how it works here. (Though it's used less and less)"
u/Marvinmega says: "Online advertising professional here. You need more time between first view and second view, also this is mostly used on charter and package deals. I work in Europe and that's how it works here. (Though it's used less and less)"
To add to this: VPNs often cost but TOR is free and settin up Tails in a VM isn't hard at all. Just request for an exit node in a poor country or keep reseting the connection until you get one.
Yep, the only problem with TOR is that you're oftentimes using a private person's internet connection which can be slow as fuck, whereas a paid VPN provider invests into servers with good connectivity.
I'm paying 25 USD a year with ironsocket.com (got a voucher from /r/vpncoupons, regular price is 45 or so). Totally worth it.
ifrpin ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 12:30:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also the exit node can spy on what you do. Being an anonymity network just means that they can not see where in the network you connection comes from. If you do use your credit card to purchase something over Tor always make sure you are using https and check the certificate. Best way is to open the site in a normal browser then compare what they show for the encrypted connection and certificate.
This part deserves to be in bold. All that https proves is that your connection is from your browser to somewhere the browser trusts. Unfortunately, shenanigans are getting real.
Especially if you're using a browser where you work or your school or someplace else where it's not your computer and not your network, that secure connection might be to somebody's proxy rather than the actual site.
I'm assuming from your question that you do know how to get to the certificate info, and it goes without saying that if the browser tells you there's a certificate issue, there's something wrong. What you want to look at is the chain of trust on the certificate chain. Let's take the one for Reddit. It says:
*.reddit.com
Issued by: DigiCert SHA2 Secure Server CA
Expires: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 5:00:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Your browser will warn you if the certificate doesn't match the site you are on or if it is expired. That middle line tells you that Reddit got their certificate from a certificate authority (CA) called DigiCert. What you want to do is follow that chain all the way up to something called a root certificate. If you click on the certificate right above the Reddit certificate, you'll find something like:
DigiCert SHA2 Secure Server CA
Intermediate certificate authority
Expires: Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 4:00:00 AM Pacific Standard Time
Keep going up the chain...
DigiCert Global Root CA
Root certificate authority
Expires: Sunday, November 9, 2031 at 4:00:00 PM Pacific Standard Time
Now you've gotten all the way to what is called a root certificate. You have to decide for yourself whether that source is one you are willing to trust. If your browser is Firefox, its a certificate that was pre-installed the browser. Otherwise, in most cases the browser defers to certificates that are pre-installed in to your operating system. The most common shenanigan is someone installing a non-standard certificate on the OS or the browser. Proving that one way or another can be quite difficult and way beyond what I can do here. If it's one of these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certificate_authority#Providers, you're probably OK. Things to watch out for are indications that the root is issued by whatever company owns the computer/browser you are using, or the chain at some point contains the name of a firewall vendor such as BlueCoat.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:13 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most Tor servers are now actual servers with good connections nowadays. That said, demand exceeds supply, so your point about them being slow as fuck still stands.
Wth, you realize that with TOR your data gets ping ponged through dozens of private computers. Sending your bank details over TOR would be a very stupid thing to do.
If you're using https (like bank data should) that's not a problem. Besides only the exit node can see your data. My point is make sure you use https and you'll be fine.
Can you link to this Google Matrix? My Google searches revealed several things that might be called Google Matrix including just Google Flights itself.
Is that fundamentally different than Google Flights? Seems like some company they would have purchased for their software and then used to create Google Flights.
Yes it is completely different. ITA is meant for travel agencies and does not even allow you to book flights. It is a central database of fares available for offer.
I did a quick check against Google Flights and in my example/spot checks it was $10 less each time for the exact same flights (not sure why) but otherwise functioned pretty much the same way.
In any case, I'll be using Google Flights/Matrix and VPN/Incognito next time I need to fly.
ITA has all of the Google Flights fares in it as well as many millions more. You can find any fare in ITA but you have to figure out how to get it.
It may be that Google flights in this case is selecting a different location for where to bill the fare from than the default in ITA. ITA can let you search for a fare from Argentina to JFK, billed from Manila with a fuel dump in Ho Chi Minh. It can do any crazy thing you want but he learning curve is steep.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:50:54 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This also works with UFC Pay Per Views. I regularly watch MMA PPV that costs 65 dollars for only 25 or so.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:05:31 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Might as well go on watchwrestling or something
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:15:05 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't want to watch shitty skipping streams on my computer. I want to watch it on my 4K tv in HD. It's well worth 20 bucks to do that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:21:05 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't know about UFC, but in my experience, even though I pay for the NBA League Pass because it clears my innocent conscience, I am aware that the streamed broadcasts on the internet are in way better quality. Often 6000 kbs compared to 3200 kbs on the official stream.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No idea. But again it's easy for me to fire up the UFC App on Apple TV and just watch it. That alone is worth it
I never tried. Most African countries have really poor bandwidth so commercial VPN providers don't really operate there. The only country my VPN operates in that region is Egypt, and when I tried right now I got connection timeouts.
Out of curiosity, and for convenience sakes we'll assume OP is from America,....is this illegal? I'm not criticising I'm just curious. Wouldn't it be fraud because you are (hypothetically) American but pretending you are from Argentina (hypothetically)?
I'm only pretending to be in Argentina. Since I disclose my passport details, the airline knows full well that I'm not Argentinean - I might simply be on trip while booking a future flight.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:36 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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mapryan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When you purchase a vpn (such as www.airvpn.org) you install some software onto your computer. This allows you to select from a list the country where your connection appears to be coming from
It's really simple actually - pick the VPN of your choice (/r/vpn has a weekly recommendation thread), install their software (or if they don't have their own, the generic openvpn client from www.openvpn.net) and follow the instructions on the vpn provider website.
I was reading about this, and private-browsed recently while buying tickets. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think you may also just be able to change the country location on the website, like I did on Expedia. Gave me different price options.
I live in China so naturally have a VPN, during the two seperate week long Governement imposed national holidays when everyone travels, I book hotels and flights with it on as hotel sites in particular will hike the prices as it is the peakiest of the peak seasons and often will have a mandatory fee such as "Chinese New Year dinner" that you can't get them to remove as they think you are the China market.
Booking a weeks accomodation in February in Thailand from the UK is soooo much cheaper than in China!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:15 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why? He never lied about where he was, it's not his fault they assumed he was in Argentina just because his traffic was being routed through it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:16:40 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's actually a good point
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:51:03 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
your mom is poor, bitch.
[deleted] ยท 584 points ยท Posted at 06:08:03 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In Massachusetts, a state official can accept a gift given because of or in connection to their position only if it is under fifty dollars or it is perishable and they share it with their division and the public to the greatest extent possible.
Well yeah, donuts are great, but it's the social aspect of it. Rice is good, but if you asked an Asian to do something for you with a promise of rice, it won't go over well.
[deleted] ยท 85 points ยท Posted at 06:12:35 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 06:14:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If it comes from the whole class, it can be up to $150 without having to use the loophole. That is another weird loophole.
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 06:15:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
MIT here I come! Best professor ever parties, like all the time.
[deleted] ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 06:16:29 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can give those professors whatever you want because they are not public officials.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:05 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait. How are people who work for the state in a public owned university not public officials? They represent an office of the state?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:23:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I might be wrong. Wikipedia says that it is privately owned. If it were publicly owned, the laws would apply (the up to $150 from a class collectively is explicitly for teachers).
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:26:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whatever Massachusetts, I'd rather go to CIT anyway, I'm partial to Jack Parsons.
koobear ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:05:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
CalTech is also private.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:39 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aw. I couldn't afford that, pass the math test, or petition. Go bears.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:26:54 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know RI law at all.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:27:33 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
California
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:29:04 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, I see. I googled "CIT school" and got a university in RI.
You know Caltech is also private, right? And no one actually calls it CIT.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I already covered that in another thread. YIL.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:49:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jack Parsons was a nutter. Okay... that just makes me like him more.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Ok, some may disagree with me, but my favorite scientists are the ones that could have fun. The ones that were possessors of genius and most polymathic held very strange beliefs and sometimes proved them.
They who stand on the shoulders of giants to see over the horizon.
Yeah it was, the department got gifted a basket of cheese and wine, Leslie wouldn't let anyone open it. But after work she opens it to drink with what she called "the boys club". Then she got in trouble for opening the basket.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:11:52 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not 100% sure as was back in 1999 but certain it was that or a very low sum.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:09:36 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How low? The one time I briefly worked for local government, we could accept very minor things like cookies. Inexplicably, someone actually did bring some for no particular reason.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:36 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, my state has a law stating $25 or $50, but my agency has a rule that you can't take anything. Idk what the legality would be if I were to be fired for accepting a gift, but I imagine it would cost me a lot more in legal fees than a $25 gift
MA State worker who just took this ethics training. You only have to share if the gift is over $50, for example a $75 edible arrangement or a very nice case of beer.
Also fun fact, the street value of an item such as event tickets also counts next to face value, whichever is more. So a consultant who wants to take you to a red sox game would have to check stub hub or similar. $45 face value tickets that would resell for $100 would be illegal.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:28 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's exactly what I said. I just took the training too, and the second paragraph was my favorite weird example.
sjhock ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:41:06 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Re: your username, what is your favorite fantasy world?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:51:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's hard to choose. I like steampunk worlds like the world of Burton and Swinburne.
I like adventure worlds like the Mediterranean in Ancient Greek mythology.
I like worlds where people don't live on the groundโlike a jungle where people live in the trees or a world where no land is dry all the time.
I like sci-fi worlds that feel totally foreign. Garth Nix's A Confusion of Princes is a cool example of this.
In Alabama you just have to prove you were friends before you were in a position of power.
Woo corruption.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:19:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yay! I think one could potentially exploit that in Massachusetts too. The rule is against receiving gifts because of your position, and one could argue that if it comes from a preexisting friend, it could be for other reasons.
So if you get them some hookers it's cool as long as they share?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:20 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know if hookers count as perishable. However, I think that there are laws about illegal activities in connection with one's position, and hookers are illegal in Massachusetts.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:33:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
fifty dollars OR it is perishable
So I can bribe a Massachusetts state cop who pulls me over with $5,000 worth of frozen shrimp?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:19 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can gift it to him in an unrelated manner. However, he will have to share it.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:12:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Caviar?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What the fuck. I went to chick fil a last week and it was normal. I went to chick fil a Thursday in a town 3 hours away and thought it was just different there. I thought the bbq sauce was like hickory or some shit and it tasted more different and worse tbh. I just thought i never paid attention to the taste, but nope I guess it is different
Semi related tip: you can buy a kids meal at any age at any fast food place. They're not gonna deny a customer, and if they get really suspicious you could say you're bringing it home to your child or something(I only had that happen like once ever, and I think if I had balls of steel and said "Nope, getting kids meal for myself." they'd probably still give it to me...).
The average kids meal at any fast food place is cheaper, has a portion size closer to that of a regular meal(think 600 calories instead of 1200), and often have healthy options like milk and apple slices that aren't on the "adult" menu. Chipotle's kids meal isn't particularly nutritious, but it has about as much food as a burrito bowl for like half the price. And there's MILK!
If you are calling to disconnect cable/phone/internet call their sales/new services number and when someone picks up say "Is this the cancellations department?"
When they say "No." Say "Dammit that girl said she was transferring me to someone who could cancel my services!"
They will directly transfer you to retention (or cancellations) with out making you go through the whole process of account verification/trying to talk you out of it/trying to talk you into transferring services. You will have to go through this with retention to some extent but at least you don't have to do it twice. If they ask you why tell them "So the government will stop watching me through the damn TV/internet/phone w/e." No one wants to deal with crazy. They will put a hurry on that shit.
Same for COX (used to work there). But I gotta say I have had to (no choice) cancel services a few times in the last few years and they really do make you jump through some hoops.
I think the most effective part of this LPT is the little bit at the end, there. The trick is to go zero-to-crazy faster than the other guy. None of this tit-for-tat escalation shit. Just full-on: "I have a tiny little room under my basement for people like you..."
Works like a charm. You'll never have to worry about a speeding ticket again.
Protip: almost all those calls are recorded anyways. The 'this call may be monitored for quality assurance' disclaimer you hear is them saying: we're recording this shit bro.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:05:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I see the problem. I'm out of context, here. I'm talking about getting pulled over. Saying the above will get you immediately incarcerated, and therefore no longer able to drive your vehicle. No more speeding tickets.
Along the same line - You can also start talking about Jesus to get things moving.
Lee_Ars ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:58:03 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then, if you're dealing with an ISP or a cell provider, the fastest way to bypass the retention specialist's saving attempts is to simply say, "I'm moving out of the country."
Short-circuits all of their scripts, and they'll typically just respond with "Well, nothing I can do, then! Let's get you processed."
As someone who dealt with that kind of stuff "That is exciting! Where to/how long? We have a fantastic vacation program if you will be leaving for a short amount of time!"
Government is watching you? Alright - Imma speed this along an get off the phone.
aldach ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I made my post from the perspective of someone who actually answered a small portion of these types of calls.
Although my company was script free and extremely relaxed about "retention" calls and even though we were prepped to endure hostile customers it still had an effect. Curt customers still had an impact on my mood. Having someone call in to cancel services required a routine, essentially I had to try to prevent them from cancelling. Then, since inevitably they either really needed to cancel or were just looking for a better deal I had to transfer them to cancellations who would do exactly what I just tried to do but (sometimes) with slightly better offers but the customer had to repeat themselves to a whole new person. This upsets the customer and makes it harder on the cancellations rep.
So the short cut is really to alleviate the stress on the customer's end and the rep's end. As a customer you don't have to fight to cancel and as a rep you don't feel deplorable or as upset that you lost a customer.
There is a lot more to what I suggested to help both people on the call rather than just the end user.
In CA if you receive a moving violation you can petition it with something called a Trial by Declaration. Instead of appearing in the court you simply make your case on this document. When you receive the document though you are required to pay the fine and you give up your chance to take traffic school. In the document though, all you have to write is, "I am not guilty." After you submit it it goes to the desk of the officer that issued the ticket. More often than not the officer does not get it to it and after 6 months the ticket is nullified and you get your money back. It has worked three times for me.
Li0nhead ยท 133 points ยท Posted at 15:44:07 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was hoping you were going to say "....you can contest it with trial by combat...."
I feel like you might get in trouble for lying if you are actually guilty (cop shows up with radar or video showing you speeding). Or maybe not - maybe it's like how you can plead not guilty in court and not be punished for perjury, I guess.
Benefits are:
1 the cop gets paid overtime for appearing in court, so even if you win, the cop gets rewarded for hassling you. But the cop doesn't get paid to reply to the written appeal.
2 a judge is hesitant to side in your favor in front of the other people in court because he doesn't want to set an expectation or to show up the cop in public. But these issues go away with a paper appeal
3 you don't have to take time off work to go to court
4 live in front of a judge you may get nervous and not present your case well. But the written form you full out at your own pace and can make sure everything is stated as it should be.
I had a passenger cited for not wearing a seatbelt. Kind of pissed me off because he actually was wearing a seatbelt. I noted the cop listed wrong speed limit zone on ticket and the cop was traveling in opposite direction and couldn't possibly accurately determine if s backseat passenger had a seatbelt on or not. I did win the case
MACP ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 14:41:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now that's a loophole... But what's with you getting 3 moving violations?!
Getting 3 moving violations is not difficult. They will try to tack on every single thing they can. Some people get that in one instance, I got 5 tickets one time from being pulled over including a ticket for my bike rack blocking my plate.
Yes, I know that. However, pretty much any bike rack on a car is going to block the plate. If the rack doesnt, the bike will. Just because something is a law, doesnt mean it has to be enforced all the time. My plates were valid and up-to-date. It would be impossible to transport my bike without blocking my plate. It is one of those rules that shouldnt be enforced unless someone is blantly blocking their plate because the are expired, belong to another car, or stolen. That is when that charge should be given. Not to a guy on a lunch break that plans on riding right after work. There was absolutely no harm caused by blocking the plate and on top of that, I have been driving at least some of the time with a rack on my cars and never had recieved a ticket for it.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:23:55 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you must be a dick. every officer I've encountered usually helps me out because i am respectful and grateful for them and it shows when we communicate. Ive never had an officer tack on extra shit, hell i almost got out of doing 87 in a 65.
Minority here. Obvious Muslim guy if you see me in person (especially if you read my ID). Every cop I've dealt with when pulled over (aside for one person who had personal issues with a relative that lived next door to her) has been decent. Two gave warnings, two gave tickets. Wasn't salty because I deserved them, cop wasn't rude about them.
[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 19:27:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you must be a minority who blames the way they are treated on something they can't control rather than their shitty attitude and demeanor
Ah, yet another white redditor who thinks systemic racism and profiling are just lazy, ungrateful minorities crying wolf.
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 20:20:50 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yet another minority who somehow thinks systemic racism is the biggest issue facing this country. In America we provide all the basic necessities including a minimal education. we lower standards to invite more minorities to our prestigious institutions and advanced education programs. We have quotas that require our most successful businesses to hire minorities. We have grants, scholarships, and opportunities that require a certain skin pigmentation to receive. We actual try to help and somehow this all equates to "systemic racism".....the bottom line is this. America has provided more than enough resources and avenues for minorities to be successful, and there are plenty that already are. I am not nearly as priviledged as 50cent or michael jordan, or Ben carson, or PRESIDENT OBAMA. If you aren't making it happen, its time to look in the mirror. I think its funny that you shout systemic racism but white countries are the ONLY countries in the world where we try so hard to be inclusive. Go fuck yourself.
Why do you assume it is me and not other issues? The officers that work in the suburbs around KC are dicks. I had a friend get a ticket for 36 in a 35. He received another ticket because he pulled into a parking lot on the left instead of the right.
No, I am not a dick at all. I am courteous but firm about my rights. I speak minimally when dealing with police as you should. I am never disrespectful, cruel. I behave completely neutral. At the time, I was an early 20s teen and that basically makes you guilty of something around here. My sister once got a possession charge because the cop found a little stem on her floorboard. They tested it and it came from maple tree.
Did he cross a double yellow line? That's illegal, so the cop had a right to ticket him for that. It's like if I pull over into the sidewalk because the street has no shoulder. I know I will get a ticket
No, he just pulled into a parking lot on the left side instead of the right. When pulled over, you are suppose to go right, not left. It was midnight and no one was around. He just wanted to write another ticket if he could.
I got pulled over for doing 65 in a 30. It was about 4am. The officer pulled me over and asked me, "How fast were you going?" I said, "I think about 65." He said he clocked me doing "64". He went to his car and came back, he said, "I appreciate your honesty, so I wrote you up for 35 in a 30, keep it down and drive safe." I thanked him and went on my way. If he wrote me up for 65 I would have lost my license for sure.
Ironically, I think if you took that to court, a lawyer could argue the ticket is invalid, and since the cop can't write the new ticket, he's fucked.
Also, they need to find a system that makes it fair for all people when it comes to getting tickets. Like even when it comes to being polite - a person with certain forms of tourette syndrome might not be able to control themselves from saying certain stuff.
I meant if you were cited as doing 35 in a 30, when the speed limit was higher, the ticket is not legal. Best he can do is claim he pulled you over somewhere else that actually has a 30 mph limit when you fight it
Since he wasn't guilty three times seems like he lives near predatory police agencies.
/s
But not really. Some places have substantial budget allocation to tickets. Fines should go straight to the state level so municipalities don't have incentive to write tickets beyond public safety.
After you lose the Trial by Declaration, you can still request an actual hearing before a judge. By the time that whole process has played out it's usually past 6 months, happened to me I got up to the judge and he just said the evidence against me had expired and I got my money back.
Using Trial by Declaration does not waive the ability to go to traffic school. Rules for traffic school vary by county in California, and judges/administrators have the discretion to grant/remove traffic school eligibility pretty much at will. I've successfully taken traffic school after losing a TbD more than once.
Another good one: If you go to court, there's a pretty decent chance the officer won't show up, in which case the whole thing is dismissed. If he does show up, wait for him to make his statement. He is required to state that he was wearing his uniform and in a marked car. If he doesn't say it, ask him to confirm that he is finished making his statement. If he says yes, tell the judge that he failed to mention it, and it will be dismissed.
Source: Know lawyers who have done this and were extremely amused/proud
Even better so you're not stressing about it for 6 months, go to the courthouse and say you want to fight it. Then, before that court date, the deadline is usually two weeks before, reschedule it. They 9/10 times will not re subpoena the officer and there will be nobody there to say you are lying, and the ticket will be dismissed.
Bit late to the party, but similarly in nyc, if you get a ticket for a minor violation like open container, hopping the subway turnstile, etc, wait until like a week before your court date to try to pay it. They're pretty much counting on you not bothering with court and just paying the fine immediately, and they really don't want to tie up the court's time with minor violations so once it gets close to your court date they tend to just drop them. I've had four tickets that this happened to, where I called and asked how to pay and they said it was dropped. Each time, my friends also had the same ticket and they all just paid immediately.
As a child I was camping with the family of a friend I was in little league with.
We spent half the day 'pitching' rocks at various trees and whatnot.
Without thinking much, as children do, I took aim at a bird across a decent sized creek and struck it dead. It twitched for a bit on the muddy bank and I felt terrible.
Sorry for the dumb question, but VPNs are appearing all over this thread, so uh what is a VPN?
jbr_r18 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:59:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Virtual Private Network. It routes your traffic through another server.
Say you select a VPN server in France and you want to browse Google.
Typically, your computer would connect to your ISP, who would connect to Google. With the VPN, your computer connects to your ISP then to the French server, which connects to their ISP which connects to Google.
Reasons to use this? It hides your IP address from any website you connect to so your can't be traced back to your computer, only to the VON server. Also, if you use an encrypted server then you can hide the traffic going to your computer.
Why is this good? It prevents your ISP from throttling sites like Netflix, it hides your traffic and it prevents much greater powers like the Government from tracing your IP address and using that to find who you are or where you love from your ISP
Virtual Private Network. Basically you get to connect to the internet through someone else so that your traffic is hard to track. For the technical people I know that's not exactly right but it's close enough.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:29:21 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Prolapse. Anal prolapse.
cqz ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:27:06 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The subscription is time-based, can't that elapse?
XAM2175 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 16:49:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The time for which the subscription was valid can elapse, ie "weeks elapsed between my subscribing and the service becoming available", but the subscription itself will lapse if you don't renew it.
I did this with XM Radio. New car came with a 3 month trial. My dealer told me to let it expire even if I wanted to keep it. Sure enough I got an offer to re-subscribe that was like 50% of the price I would have paid per month.
jred250 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:52:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
(Cough) brazzers does as well. What? Nothing.
davepa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:57:04 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I find that when you let them expire, they often forget to actually shut your service off. My vpn and a certain streaming service expired over a year ago and they still work fine.
I got so many offers from a magazine I was subbed to, they even sent me a free one out of the blue
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I decided to not pay to renew my SirirusXM subscription for 3 months, got a call for 6 months at $25. It went back to the regular rate after that ended, but I haven't tried it again because it resets my favorites if I cancel.
joeltb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:50:04 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have been doing this every six months for the last 2 years. I call to cancel a couple days before the 'trial' ends and say, "My wife wants me to cancel unfortunately. The only way I can keep it is if I can have it for $25 for the next six months". They put my on hold and when they come back they approve my request! I have been doing this for the last 2 years. If I think about it tho, they are the ones winning here. I barely use my car(work from home) and when I do listen to music, it's via iPhone bluetooth.
To what extent and when and how? (I mean, hey, you can PLEX your account if you know what you are doing and play by paying with in game money, but still cool to know some discounts)
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:39:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you have an old prepaid credit/gift card that has a low balance (even pennies or $1), use it for a free trial for netflix, hbo go or NOW rather, amazon prime.. anything that needs a credit card to sign up, but only has to verify a balance.
Edit: HBO NOW seems to be pretty selective in it's supported devices
I had a visa gift card I got from my work for christmas that had maybe $12 remaining after being gifts for my family and friends. I figured I'd just put the rest of it in my tank. To my surprise my tank was filled. Super nice because I was BROKE. Next time I went to that same gas station I figured what the heck, lets roll the dice again and it worked; topped off. I was able to do this probably 6 or 7 more times before the card was denied at the pump.
My figuring was that the gas station pre-authed the card for $1(common practice, which is why some places swipe your card and the receipt immediately prints out) and then when they batched their credit at night the transaction was declined for insufficient funds.
Most EDC software cannot withdraw a partial amount of the transactions to the amount that is left on the card, its an all or nothing scenario, so the only thing being withdrawn from the account was the $1 pre-authorization amount.
EDIT: I just want to clarify that I don't advocate stealing from anyone. This post was just referring to something I had done a while ago and as a result of my previous career in the point of sale industry, I wanted to explain how it worked. Don't steal, guys; it's a shitty thing to do.
[deleted] ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 19:03:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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iOwn ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 19:07:43 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't matter if theres no way to prove it, it's theft. Just because you can get away with it does not make it acceptable.
Binxly ยท -18 points ยท Posted at 19:47:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tell that to oil/gas execs... they never steal or make income via dishonest practice...
I say doing this consistent makes you a jackass. Doing it when you NEED it ( between jobs or in financial hardship) then it's totally acceptable. Exxon and their ilk give a fuck if you can make rent or eat. So why the fuck should we care what giving them some of their own medicine will cause?
Two wrongs don't make a right but when Goliath is dishonest, I say David has a right to a cheap shot to their nards... don't gotta agree with me but I stand by this.
iOwn ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:52:35 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh it just gets better. You realize your only screwing your neighbor, right? Exxon got their money when it arrived at the station. I have some friends whose livelihood depends on the one or two stations they own. Your not putting it to the man and your reasoning is fucking insane and extremely distorted from reality.
Binxly ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 21:01:36 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Again, I did not condone it, only claimed the corporate white knight who came to shame the guy who mentioned in a pinch he took some gas was a dick and incorrect in assuming that the gas company is without sin or dishonesty.
I don't condone theft, but the guy I replied to acted as if the company was without sin, which I pointed out no party was innocent but certainly the company is not.
If you want to attack my intellect or make this a typical reddit post where an insecure teen/early 20 something has to pretend they are coming from a place of intellectual superiority or authority then by all means knock yourself out, I'm concerned on what I'm making for dinner, not what some kid on reddit thinks... sorry.
iOwn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:10:36 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am the other guy, genius.
Apparently I'm also an insecure teenager that holds some sort of intellectual superiority or authority as well. Go ahead and turn the cards and play victim, it's no wonder you have the 'all corporations are evil' mindset.
Go ahead and make dinner, how mature and responsible of you. One day I too hope I can make my own dinner.
iOwn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:13:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Two wrongs don't make a right but when Goliath is dishonest, I say David has a right to a cheap shot to their nards... don't gotta agree with me but I stand by this.
You seriously go around spewing this shit and are able to sleep at night? Really, read this and think about what you said here.
But David is not shooting at Goliath. Heยดs ripping of his subordinates.
Binxly ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 20:33:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
....and the employees will complain, corporate will do nothing, employees will leave, and said corporate entity then will need to adapt and such will cause themselves to have to close their own loopholes as well in order to close the loopholes their customers use, in turn making themselves honest as well as the customer.
That or they do nothing and eventually fail and become a memory of a shitty company. Sorry, if your company isn't honest, you're a fool if you think I care about being honest and fair to your company.
Hahahahhaha you moron, if the gas station loses a profit and closes, BP would have one less gas station to sell gas to and lose money. Sick insight skills man
BP doesn't sell gas directly to stations though. The stations you see with the name "BP" are licensing the name. BP sells their gas on an open commodities market. If you steal gas from a station, you are directly hurting a member of the local community and their family. Do your mental gymnastics to try and defend it, but at the end of the day you're a piece of shit.
But yet, if BP gas stations close , BP won't make as much money. Is it really that hard to understand? If you cut off their buyer's you make them lose money, plain and simple. Less BP gas stations less money for BP. more gas stations more money.
Also no need to be a salty cunt cuz ur wrong that's just unnecessary kid
I cancelled Amazon Prime when they jacked up the price. I have an American Express prepaid card from a rebate I got at Fry's earlier this year, and it's got about $4 dollars on it. I just got Prime on trial with it, and I'm about to go scope out some other services like HBO.
I have HBO NOW on in another window as we speak! Unfortunately it does not work on pre-2015 Samsung smart TVs unless you have a Roku/Google Chrome device. Works great on my tablet and Desktop though.
An app for 2014 Samsung smart TVs may be on the horizon
It doesn't seem to work on the PS3 either. :( That box is my gateway to entertainment. I have a Roku in the bedroom, though, so maybe I should try in there.
I buy Amazon gift cards with mine when the balance gets low. That way around Christmas when we get multiple, I can put them all on our gift card balance.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The point is if you don't intend on buying prime after your trial, as by default they will force you to unless you manually cancel it. The way the free trial works is that it verifies your card, gives you 6 months free, and then rolls into full paid prime and starts billing you automatically to that card. By using the $1 burner card, you don't have to worry about cancelling the free subscription just before it turns into a full subscription - you just let them bill it, the bill bounces, and they cancel your prime instead.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:19:33 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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Binxly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:21 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not everyone has free time or lack of stress to the point they can recall exactly when to cancel. This is a stress free way to enjoy the trial but not get dinged if you forget to disenroll.
Amazon knows this, hell, that's why 'free trials' exist and ask for a payment method:
They hope you forget to disenroll and once too late, assume you'll stay since it's not worth the hassle to cancel when you already paid, then, a year later, you forget again to cancel.... rinse and repeat.
Is it lazy? Yes. Genius? Yup. It's funny, in america, we don't even bat an eye to shady business practices from a company but once a civilian tries to exploit a similar loophole, everyone loses their minds...
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:00:03 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's just one gift card. None of the above mentioned services are going to affect the (again, already low) balance on the card. The free trial is a "one off" anyway, unless you start doing new e-mails and the like. 1 card, all of these different free trials. I'm not over here saving up gift cards.
Binxly ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just think you're looking for a debate or argument. Honest advice: get offline and go somewhere quiet and figure out what really has you upset or wanting a fight.
Not being rude, hell, I had to do this very act myself Thursday night; but ii can sense there's more going on here than mere annoyance with the laziness of the internet...
Well not always. I once got a free sample of coconut oil from thrive. The deal was you get a regular full size jar of coconut oil, but you have to sign up to the thrive market membership. I just wanted the coconut oil, and then I tried to cancel the membership. I went through the cancelation process in the account settings, and I thought I was done. Then I hadn't checked my fake email, so I didn't know that thrive didn't cancel my membership, and instead offered me half off the membership cost. When I got charged, cause I used my actual card rather than a burner card, I was pissed. I contacted them to get a refund and to cancel my account. They refunded me, but once again didn't cancel my account. Instead, they gave me a free month...
so
TLDR: canceling a Thrive market membership is a pain in the arse because they keep giving you new offers rather than canceling your membership when you ask for a cancellation.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:42:48 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea but quickcatch12 was talking about canceling memberships, so I was giving an example of a time when it's inefficient to try to cancel.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:47 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can do the same without the gift card if your bank supports e-cards. Create a virtual credit card with $1 on it that expires in a month and use that. They can't even try to bill you for a subscription if the card expired during the trial period.
So get your netflix month before spending the giftcard. Get $50 gift card, get the trial, then spend your $50 elsewhere.
edveda2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:23 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did this with Spotify back when they did the $1 for three months of premium thing. Ended up getting four months as they give one extra month for you to pay to continue the subscription and sort out the "errors" on my card... ;)
Yalnix ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:03:28 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Piggybacking off this... anyone got one I could borrow?
There's a pizza place near me which for a while only accepted delivery orders. That's right, you couldn't phone or order online for walk-in collection.
Unless... you order a delivery and put the delivery address down as the restaurant itself. People caught on to this and started doing it routinely, and the restaurant finally allowed walk-ins.
I never order delivery because I don't have cash to tip the driver with, and don't want to tip someone to drive to my apartment when I'm ordering from a place 1-2 miles away (tops).
shiplow ยท 424 points ยท Posted at 17:39:18 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're in that weird place where both of your parents make too much money for you to get grants and need-based scholarships but they also never saved for your education, get married! It sounds absolutely nuts but it works for a lot of people.
I went from a $45,000 EFC to a $0 and was rolling in grant/scholarship money. I saved myself over $100k in loans just by getting married to another student in the same situation. I was 19.
We spent $150 to get married and $400 to get divorced but we each got SO many grants each year that it didn't matter at all. We had a very short and concise prenuptial agreement. We just filled out the divorce paperwork together and signed with a notary.
soik90 ยท 84 points ยท Posted at 19:16:34 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is a good one. Is there anything to look out for while doing this? It seems that with the wrong person, this could bite someone in the ass.
[deleted] ยท 75 points ยท Posted at 19:34:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Marriages of Convenience have been a thing for many years (hell, and now, the sexes of the two people don't even matter) but I wonder if there is some potential for the grants being revoked (or even criminal charges) on some sort of fraud or false-pretense basis. Prenups aren't always bulletproof either, so I'd say only do it with someone you really, really trust.
Staring selena gomez and zac effron in the hit movie the freshmen
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:01:07 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's usually a general concept of "bad faith" that if you get caught you can get in trouble for. The issue is, how do you get caught?
Anyway, for a legit version of this it's possible to get your parents to financially "dissown" you in Canada at least. You get them to sign paperwork that says "we will not be helping ____ with school costs" which fully qualifies the individual for all grants/bursaries.
I'm not 100% certain on how it's done, but I had a friend who was estranged from her family do it so she could apply for government loans.
I'm no lawyer, but I don't think they current marriage laws allow intra family marriage, so why would they write gay marriage laws so loosely that this would be a problem? Also the types of ultra rich families that might do this have good enough finance and lawyer teams to hide from these taxes well enough that I doubt they'd be rushing out to marry their sons.
The US currently outlaws marrying parents or other relatives due to issues of incest, but if the laws are changed to allow gay marriage, then incest is no longer an issue, so what would be the grounds against allowing marriage within the family unless the law was clarified specifically for tax evasion or inability to consent due to unequal power.
i guess i should clarify. incest isn't an issue in same sex marriages between family members. there would still be grounds for preventing a son marrying a mother or daughter marrying a father.
Once gay marriage was passed, it would set a precedent that would allow someone to easily oppose the existing laws which would prevent a son from marrying a father, as the reason opposing it was no longer law, so a new reason would have to be approved to maintain the legitimacy of the law.
i'm not even saying it is my train of thought, it was an argument someone against gay marriage had, and in the sea of "it makes god sad" comments, it at least made some sense.
Ideally i think government and religion should have completely separate definitions of what marriage is. why should a religious ceremony suddenly allow a friend of someone to get healthcare through the first person's employer?
When i got married 2 years ago, we considered not formally getting married because my wife has an income based repayment program on her student loans, and by marrying, we pay significantly more towards her student loans than we would otherwise. looking deeper into it, it got even more complicated if we didn't get married and we didn't want to jeopardize a complex situation, so we decided not to rock the boat.
but go ahead and assume that this random person on the internet is lying about gay marriage. if you want to look through my history, i have admitted to views far more controversial than that, so I don't know why i would lie about this one.
Legalizing gay marriage would not change any of the laws already on the books that prevent you from marrying an immediate relative. It may be the case that the justification for outlawing incest is to prevent inbred offspring, but it's still illegal to marry your parents even if your infertile, and it's still illegal to marry your parents even if you happen to be the same sex.
jhra ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:05:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a buddy that married his roommate in about 03'. They were in school and married for tax, loan, cheaper insurance, school lgbt incentives and to piss people off. They had to get divorced a few years ago because both of their to be wives are total buzzkills. Their motive was gay marriage was legal, and nobody is going to audit their lack of gayness so why not?
and nobody is going to audit their lack of gayness
also same-sex marriage isn't legally restricted to gay people, it's just generally assumed that that is the target demographic
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:26 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not brilliant. It's insanely risky. There are plenty of stories of horrible divorces, and those are people who actually wanted to be married to each other. Just marrying some random friend solely for financial gain is ludicrous.
shiplow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:46 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not. Or at least it wasn't. We checked. We went to the same college and our financial aid officer knew we were doing it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:14 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
It looks like marriage fraud only applies to immigration matters, not things like student loans or insurance.
shiplow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:28 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was in a romantic relationship with that person for 18 months before getting married. We already lived together. People get married for the tax benefits all the time.
Ragnrok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:04:44 on July 26, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why illegal? People have been marrying without love being involved for millennia.
cornham ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 19:54:40 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really like this loophole. I thought I was a progressive thinker, but something like this never occurred bravo. When was this, how did it work out? Do you still keep in touch with the ex Mrs. Shiplow?
shiplow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:59:59 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This was in 2012 and we divorced earlier this year. We're still friendly but no longer in a relationship (romantically). We don't really keep in touch.
We broke up a year before we divorced but stayed civil because we agreed at the beginning that it was a marriage of opportunity.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:19 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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shiplow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:27:11 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FAFSA audited us. We just replied "No really, we're both students" and that was it. We went to a VERY small school. Everyone knew what we were doing. A few other people followed suit. We all had the same pre-nup. :)
f_n_a ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:54:31 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, I can attest that this is a sweet loophole. I went from being able to only get some unsubsidized loans, to pell grants and plenty of subsidized loans.
I'm still married 15 years later, so we weren't trying to just use the loophole, but it was a sweet bonus.
You can also go part time (or get credits via community college for basic math and science classes) until you turn 24. At least when i was in college (10 years ago), the FAFSA took your parent's taxable income into your financial information. But only if you were 23 or younger. I was going part time up until I turned 24. I decided to switch into the BFA program instead of the AA and filled out toffee FAFSA. I was only working part time, just turned 24, so I was considered "poverty". I was on the Dean's List, so i got a small scholarship. But I did also get 3 government grants and my student loan total was less than $9000. I got an additional grant a week before a graduated... I was already covered and had an extra $1.98 on my student account do after I graduated, I got to collect a refund check of $1,800ish from my college for that last minute grant.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:59:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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shiplow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:14 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
PMunch ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:46:07 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a European, the American school system is immoral. I pay $60 a semester to attend University and get five times that monthly (larger sum at the beginning of the year for buying books etc.) from the government for getting an education. You can also get a ridiculously cheap loan at about twice the sum of the grant if you want to.
Is doing this immoral, yes, should you care? Imho, no, they try to screw you, screw them right back.
shiplow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:22:43 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know. I kind of felt like it was immoral to expect an widow to contribute $45,000 a year towards my education when she was left with a house, a car, and three kids to raise for after dad died the year before. She only took home $65,000 a year after taxes (may sound like a lot to some but it's hard to survive on that in some cities). After all my dad's medical expenses there wasn't a lot of savings left over for college. This was my solution to get a degree. I guess I don't really care if it was immoral after all that fun we had. :) /rant
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:36:32 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes it is immoral because you are not actually living your lives as a married couple.
My husband and I married in college and he was finally able to get financial aid....but we married legitimately out of love. 10 years and 2 kids later, we are still broke though.
Top_Wop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:10 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is a classic. My daughter does a similar thing. She won't marry her SO until the kids are done with college because they get much better deals with her being a single mother. Stick it to the man.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:57 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is she conveniently omitting the fact that her SO contributes to taking care of the kids? Particularly if they live together in the same household what she is doing is probably fraudulent.
Top_Wop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:02 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Quite the opposite. She makes more than her SO, since he's straddled with a big alimony payment, her income is more than his. She could also live without him, on her own, with her income alone. Nothing fraudulent involved.
Furar ยท 137 points ยท Posted at 17:36:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
When it comes to restricted college currency (that preloaded $$ on your ID that only works at x, y, z and the bookstore) you can just go to the bookstore and buy visa gift cards that work anywhere. I got $200 in booze money every semester doing this.
Edit: Bummer to those of you where this doesn't/didn't work :(
I like this one. This is great for those kids that want to spend their parents' money on movies, games, and a night out. Rather than laundry, cheap t-shirts and textbooks. Sounds like college!
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:50:16 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dunno where you're going that anything on campus would be considered "cheap". Even the fast food restaurants near the campus where I went to school had a 10-20% surcharge over everywhere else in the city.
This is true. The sandwhiches at the Wendy's at my uni is generally 10-20 cents more. However, the bookstores have racks, and I mean racks, of $5 t-shirts.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:02:13 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Weird, our bookstore just had university memorabilia that cost more like 20-30$ a shirt.
Everything about that damn place was designed to milk people of every last cent.
Cheap tshirts? In the bookstore? No way. The school apparel at my school is way overpriced. Like $50 for a single shirt. The Walmart down the road sells basically the same shirt for about $15. So unless you're buying the outdated clearance shirts that still have the old logo (we redesigned our logo last year) then you're not getting a cheap tshirt.
That's because their primary market is teenagers who have just accepted the fact they will be in debt the rest of their lives and are also spending someone else's money.
Furar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:57:54 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I lived in a house so I didn't pay upfront for laundry, the school was in one of the wealthiest sections of DC so nothing was cheap and I had so many clothes back then that each year I would go through everything and donate a big bag to goodwill. That money came from the purchasing of any meal plan and was all loaded on by the university (yes understand it's really from tuition etc).
But if they were forcing myself and my parents to pay that money anyway I figured I might as well be able to spend the funds on my terms instead of being forced to only take my business to the overpriced and low quality "college" businesses.
Ragnrok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:17:31 on July 26, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Their parents money? What kind of rich fucking parents did you have? Everyone in college I knew was there on loans.
I don't understand this one. Could someone please explain? I have a card, how do I get unlimited money exactly?
Furar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:49:25 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At my former school with the start of every semester your student ID was preloaded with $400. $200 could only be spent on campus food locations but everything you bought was 15% off, $200 could be spent anywhere on campus plus surrounding community businesses and there was no discount. I lived in a house and cooked all my own food/only spent time on campus for class so the first $200 was more than enough to help with those snack cravings or coffee breaks throughout the semester. So I would take the other $200 and go to our bookstore (which sold visa gift cards) and buy $200 in the gift cards so that I could use that money wherever I liked (i.e. Beer, concerts, random Amazon shit I liked but wouldn't buy normally).
Those funds came with any meal plan purchase and my mom always insisted on getting me a meal plan (I got the lowest and cheapest option) so really I was just redistributing the allocated funds into a more suitable/spendable state vs. being forced to spend it at the boring pizza and burger shops around the area.
[deleted] ยท 831 points ยท Posted at 07:08:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 2023 points ยท Posted at 08:28:47 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every time I try this they end up kicking me out of the store at night. 0/10, does not work.
Mr_Zaroc ยท 213 points ยท Posted at 10:35:34 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You gotta hide until they close down and avoid the possible security guard, but make sure that you show up on their Videofootage so you can prove that you had this product in your cart for a day or two!
I had a friend who did this in order to be the first in line to get Super Mario Sunshine. He worked at IGN for reviewing Nintendo games and now owns his own paper(I guess that's what it's called, I really don't know.)
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:00:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Big vendors like Amazon, Wal-Mart etc. don't care, they've got enough turnover. Electronics stores usually have margins in the 2% range (on hardware, accessories are a different story) so they can't afford discounts.
Anything else sold by small-ish shops works, I got a 15% discount on a fishing rod once, and a couple of clothing items.
You need to be registered with the shop and logged in while putting stuff in your cart (just mentioning the obvious for completeness' sake).
[deleted] ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 12:20:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It works for some clothing stores, especially, since the margin on clothing is so high.
Amazon does this, big time. If I put a product in my cart I start getting spammed with emails about it for days AND for related products. Buy a security camera? here's a sale on network cables....
I got mine from Bass Pro as well while in Canada, good deal. And a good hint what margins they are able to pull off regularly.
NOODL3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:57 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't have to be registered or logged in. Most sites nowadays capture your email the second you type it into the box without any further clicks or input.
a 15% coupon on that site is equivalent to paying the normal price anywhere else. I know theres a circlejerk about it, but thinkgeek is seriously overpriced. At least it was when i last used it a few years back
On Udemy, I looked at a course in Web Dev that cost $200, but didn't buy it. 2 days later I got an email offering it to me for $20. Bought it. Still haven't used it.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:00:44 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds an awful lot like Steam's business model. Sell people things they don't want at prices so low they'll buy it anyway.
I dunno. It doesn't work with a lot of hobby stuff. But if clothes are your thing, it works great. I did it at LL Bean and got a coupon on a pair of boots.
I'm still running on a free shoprunner account, I just kept ignoring their emails after cancelling a free trial until they said come back for free. I think they forgot though, I've had it for three years now
I downloaded RF4 due it was the only way to get in Europe and in my for you offers in nintendo eshop. I've got Lost valley 50% off to ยฃ17.50 Makes sense.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:07:33 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also use Ebates and search for online discount codes
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:11:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, make it a habit to always use Ebates or TopCashBack before buying anything online.
Lokmann ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes! I did this once by accident. I was buying a couple of vinyl records and ps3 games from amazon and one of the record was out of stock. I contact amazon and the rep is really nice and tells me it will be a couple of days until they get more so I wait and while I wait with all the items in my cart they drop all a couple of pounds each wound up saving some 30 pounds over all.
I did this once over 10 years ago. I put a home star runner hoodie in my cart, forgot about it for weeks or months. Stumbled across it and for some reason the price was listed as $0. Ordered it with free shipping and it arrived a week later.
pbpedis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I discovered this too by accident. Williams Sonoma is good for this sometimes. 25% off.
A fish and chips meal is $10.99 at this grocery store I shop in. An extra piece is $5.50, if you say no to fries, you can get a 3rd piece of fish and then just purchase a side of fries at $2.50.
[deleted] ยท 334 points ยท Posted at 09:25:18 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This sounds like a description for the best day of Karl Pilkington's life.
"it's just a fookin' fish, why does it have to be this expensiv'? I don't get it. Look at that lad over there, enjoying his ice cream cone, I could have gotten 5 of those for the same price as this plate of this stupid fish. Here I try being healthy, like they tell you to do, and here I am misserable wishing I was that cunt over there with the ice cream cone. This chips aren't even that fookin' good. [cameraman says from behind the camera] "if you ask for no chips they'll give ya an extra piece, and you can just buy chips on the side and save some quid". You having a laugh? Did Ricky tell you to tell me this? Just for that stupid fookin' show to dissapoint me and satisfy his sadistic side? [cameraman] "no Karl, look at the pricing and do the math". Ricky set you up to this didn't he? [Karl in Ricky's voice] oh look at me, UGH UGHhit's chestI am confused by little numbers (Frowns dissapointedly; scoffs, turns around and goes to the disk to buy some fish & chips; get's cheap fish & chips).
It's actually cheaper when you act like a twat and jump hoops. Then why didn't they just fookin' sell it at that price before? Doesn't make any sense man'. If I had gone up there, got the exact same stupid fish, and the same stupid chips, it would've been more expensive. Why can't everyone just sell it at what they want to sell it at? All these cunts just want to rip ye' off. [Cameraman from behind the camera] "are you enjoying yourself Karl?". (Karl angilly express) of course I'm fokkin' happy, I want my fish, but I want it for the same fokkin' price
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:19:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the most expensive fish
Huh? This whole exchange is confusing the hell out of me. I live in NC, US, and a good fish to use around here for fish and chips would be a flounder or snapper. Both can run between $10-20/lb. filet at the grocery store. At a restaurant, it would easily be twice that price per pound for a prepared dish, so I would expect a nice Fish and Chips(.5 lb filet) to be at least $10 up to 20 or 30 depending on the restaurant. Are you all British?
Yeah a fish and chip shop is basically a deep fryer and a cash register mate. Think the type of food you'd get out of a lunch truck.
Your choice of fish here is cheap but delicious. Flake (shark) is a very popular option in Aus, but a fillet is around $6 now.
If you want something more fancy you go to a bistro, such as your local pub or the Russell
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:43 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah okay, thanks for clarifying. It's cool that you have those there in Aus. Here in the States, for $6, there's fast food fish and chips like Long John Silvers but nothing that's actually good. I need to get out there and check out the Flake.
such a great description of the beverage :P i'll bet the flavour is often purple isn't it?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:42:25 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get it, is that an odd thing to say? Many fish n chip or chicken shops in Australia advertise 'can of drink' as included with the meal it's the usual coke, sprite etc.
I regularly get a $20 three-piece of fish and chips, but it's incredibly good beer-battered fish (not cod, but I don't remember what they use) at a decent restaurant. It's also the only worthwhile fish and chips within about 80-100 miles.
I never understood why people got confused by this; the spelling is already very intuitive. Given that you can pronounce it you pronounce dessert as deszert and desert as desErt.
silian ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:44:29 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
10.99 for a single piece fish and chips is pretty pricy, atleast around here and food is not cheap here as a rule of thumb. Maybe at a fancy sitdown restaurant or something.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:42:08 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Where the fuck do you live where one piece of fish is over $5?
Also, if you ever find yourself in a situation where you want to order two toasted egg sandwiches, it is always cheaper to order the breakfast (2 eggs, bacon etc) and a side order of toast, and make your own - plus the bonus of getting the bacon and other sides with the breakfast.
I did get caught once, placing an egg on the toast, and the waitress insisted on charging me for two toasted egg sandwiches, so I lost that one, but I'm well up overall.
Corvese ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 16:32:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait what, seriously? Did you actually pay up? That sounds pretty retarded that a restaurant could charge you more for the way you eat your food.
With me it would have come down to this one statement, "If you insist on charging me for the wrong meal, the difference will be coming out of your tip."
Then if you pay with a $20, then stop and ask for change for a $10, maybe $5 and five ones, then put it all on the counter, and ask for change from the original, twice, and insist you never got your change. Free fish.
You used to be able to get 12 nuggets at McDonald's for $3 by just getting 3 $1 4-pieces. They sold a 10 piece for like $4.99 or something. Unfortunately they've caught on and just offer a 20-piece for $4.99 now and 4-pieces for like $1.50+.
I know it has to be annoying to be told this twice, but you need more slash to get the desired result. I don't know why exactly, but one slash looks like this:
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This leaves you missing a forearm. It often will lead to "you dropped this" chains.
Two(what you did) like this:
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That leaves you missing both of your shoulders.
And three(the proper way) like this:
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So from now on, when working with reddit, be extremely redundant.
[deleted] ยท 329 points ยท Posted at 14:39:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you bring $20 k to spend on a 4 day trip to Vegas you had better be rich.
[deleted] ยท 169 points ยท Posted at 14:44:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But you're not spending it. You're just moving it between accounts to reap the benefits of being comped. Take out 5k, deposit it back into savings. Rinse and repeat while enjoying free hotel perks.
To be fair most people aren't very good with their money. The mindset of the average american isn't to save as much as you can for the future; it's about the opposite.
If even 1% do though, that's millions of people in the US alone.
Necoras ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 16:32:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not especially difficult to do if you do it over a few years. $1-200 per month plus some from any bonus/tax refund/other non constant income will get you to 20k without a ton of effort.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:25:35 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Im assuming you have zero dependents. It's hard to save when you have kids.
Necoras ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:34:39 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a 9 month old. I'm saving less than I did last year (if you don't count 401k), but not nothing.
[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 16:19:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People should manage their money more efficiently.
notjawn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:55:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know there are things such as fees and taxes. It really is a terrible idea on it's feet you'd blow so much extra money just trying to get comps when you get those plenty if you'd just spend time in the casino but manage your winnings so you don't go home in the negative.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:59:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't my idea in the first place. Do casinos have fees for opening accounts?
notjawn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:17:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some of them do but usually they restrict it to only using it in the casino. State taxes winnings at 30% and your bank that you're gonna send it from is going to charge you to take it out and put it back in every-time you transfer. I just think it would be a lot of work just to spend money and of course the casino would figure it out the first time you did it and no doubt would kick you out.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:29:50 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd have to see a breakdown of fees vs rewards to know if it's actually worth it, but you're right. It seems like it's a lot more work than it could wind up being worth.
notjawn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:15 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I think the better idea would be just set a limit on how much you want to gamble then deposit that to get the comps beforehand. It's what I do when I go on gambling trips but I'm just a small fry slots player.
Your bank might have fees for moving that much money around twice in the same few weeks/month as well.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:11:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just bought a house. Transferred a sizable amount of money from online savings to checking and withdrew it as a secured check. They charged me ten bucks.
Oh that's not bad I just honestly had no idea. I'm still in the accruing massive student loans part of my life cycle, got a few years before paying them off and buying a house is an issue.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:51:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry, you'll have plenty of things to pay for in addition to those!
If you have 20k liquid to use in that manner you're doing better than 90โ of people anywhere. It's a great scam, but if you've got 20k liquid you probably don't need it. I'm 30 and I don't have any friends who could do that with their own money (if your dad can lend you 20k for the weekend you're not exactly tly hard up either). Not that my friends are unsuccessful either, I know several home owners and a few business owners, but that's where their 20k in Vegas money went, useful investments they can't cash in for a weekend of gambling and shows.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:10:03 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Having 20k liquidity is excessive, but if you take one vacation a year and plan ahead in anticipation of trying this scam, it's something a person could pull off.
Me personally? I'd be making sure I had fully funded Ira contributions, debt settled etc. I'm careful with my money.
I use to be an account manager for a mutual fund company and I would look at hundreds accounts a day. Lots and lots of people have at least $20k stashed in their savings that are your regular everyday people like teachers or construction workers. They just work hard and save their money. If I didnt have kids, I could probably put $20k away each year if I rolled back my lifestyle to frugal.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:24:03 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you can budget $5000 a day on a vacation you are rich or incredibly stupid. No one who is merely comfortable should be able to spend $20k in 5 days on a vacation.
I am not saying it is a smart move or even feasible but there are lots of people that have $20k in liquid assets that are not rich.
I strongly disagree with people merely comfortable not being able to spend $20k on vacation. There are lots of people who want to save their money for something and they do. For some people, that is a really nice vacation. Would you say someone who has $20k to purchase a car outright is rich? Because I have friends who do that and they are not rich, they just save their money and work a lot.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:43:14 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A car is a physical good only very wealthy people spend $20k on a 4 day vacation
You're pretending to know what is important to people. What they spend the $20k on makes no difference. I use to do mortgages and about once a month I took an application from someone whose car payment was either 50% of their income or close to it. I remember a married couple who made a combined $1800 and their two car payments were $900 because they both had used Beamers. When I told them they would have to sell their cars, they refused. They picked driving cars way out of their budget in lieu of buying a house. My point is, a 4 day vacation could be the most important thing to spend the money on to some people like a house, a boat, car, or renovations to their home. Having that $20k does not necessarily mean they are even wealthy. Chances are, they are wealthy but you could certainly be middle class and do that if you saved for it. I am not saying it is smart but after working in banking and finance for 15 years, you would be surprised the things people spend their money on.
Most of America should have 20k. Having 20k in a savings doesn't mean you are rich but you are living within your means and saving for your next car, a house, college, retirement.
If you don't have an emergency fund maybe you shouldn't be taking a vacation to Vegas.
The rich will have a lot more than 20k.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:11 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Check my statistic. Most (by a large majority) don't have $1k.
I make a whopping $23,000 a year and I have more than $20,000 in cash (that I worked for and saved/put int he bank) over the years. One year I worked seven months straight without a day off. For many years (when i worked full time) I was putting on average ...$6,000 a year into my savings.
I am a miserably cheap asshole who lives a frugal life and lives in a place where it doesnt take a lot to live off of. My monthly expenses are about $800-900 and I earn in $1,400 a month (take home). The extra goes into my savings.
As a vegas resident, if the rooms are costly you are doing something wrong. For example; non peak season, non weekend bookings, and staying off the strip typically make rooms much cheaper. If you stay at the place you wont be sacrificing quality, in fact sometimes off the strip is better because they have less foot traffic and offer amazing deals to get you in the door. Green valley ranch, south pointe and red rock resort come to mind as quality off strip locations. Sure they have less bells and whistles, but they make up for it in other ways.
I just meant rooms in general are costly, at least for me, but if I had 20k I still would like to save on rooms because that means I could spend that money on fun things.
Honestly though I am only in my twenties and have never paid for a room, maybe once or twice and on staycations. I have been to England, Ireland, Chicago, and NYC plus am going to DC soon to visit friends and have always been fortunate enough to know people who allow me to stay there. But each time it is always nice being able to budget a vacation and not having to include lodging and less eating out.
On this note, the companion book to Archer has a how-to section on the Sterling Archer Triple-A Power Play (The triple-A stands for Awesome Awesome Awesome.)
Step one: Get $10,000 from somewhere.
[deleted] ยท -72 points ยท Posted at 09:13:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At most places that wont work if you are looking to get a bunch of comps. They give you alittle credit card thing that tracks exactly how much you play.(for slots at least - i think they can be used at table games too by tracking the time you spend at the table.) Comps are very formulaic now a days. You spend X amount of money entitles you to Y amount of comps. Sure the hotel can always hand out a few freebies here and there but to get consistently good comps youll need to spend actual money since they can track it all now.
bg-j38 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:26:09 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I have a friend who like 20 years ago would go to a casino and before checking in open a huge line of credit. Like middle five figures. (He was a very well paid sales guy so it wasn't too difficult.) Then he'd go check in, they'd see his line of credit, and upgrade him, comp him stuff, etc. He'd never really use most of that. But that stopped being effective in the early to mid 2000s.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 12:53:47 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you just transfer 5 grand to your bank account, and later transfer it back (in different values of course)
fdsdfg ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 16:05:02 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. It's not clear in what Holic said, but the $5k you take out every day is not $5k that you will spend seeing Vegas. It's probably $4800 you put back into your bank's savings account, and another $200 to see the sights, gamble a bit, and eat.
XAM2175 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:54:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think OP means it should look to the hotel like you're blowing it gambling, which would mean withdrawing cash, or debiting the account for chips that you then exchange for cash, after which you move the money back to your real account.
But I have zero experience in these matters so I could be way off the mark.
Zerotan ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 14:24:02 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It isn't clear that you don't want people to spend $5000/day seeing the sights.
Magile ยท 124 points ยท Posted at 12:52:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A better tip is to not vacation to vegas. Its not nearly as interesting as youd think.
[deleted] ยท 174 points ยท Posted at 12:57:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate the Vegas scene, but Vegas is awesome because of its location.
If you're not into gambling, you have a 2 hour drive to the Grand Canyon, a 2 hour drive to Zion national park and a 45 minute drive to Hoover Dam. Grab dinner and a show in the evening and explore during the day.
I think the privately operated section with the glass overlook skywalk is closer. But that shit is crazy expensive.
Normal state park entrance at the North rim, yeah at least four hours away
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:00:11 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The South and North Rims are each a 4-hour drive from Vegas. The Skywalk, which is not part of Grand Canyon National Park, is 2 hours from Vegas.
The Skywalk is also the biggest ripoff in existence. Don't take my word for it, read TripAdvisor.
First, that 2-hour ride is in a bus on a barely graded dirt road. I think it's $80 to get in, and the Indian tribe that runs it confiscates your camera if you want to take photos on the Skywalk, which is basically the whole point of going there.
You see, they're afraid you might drop your camera into the canyon. Fortunately, they have their own photographer on site who'll be happy to take a photo of you for a fee. The Indians even stiffed the poor contractor who built the damn thing, finding some bullcrap tribal loophole to cheat him out of its $30 million cost. He ended up dying without collecting a penny.
Seriously, if you're ever in Vegas and want to see the Grand Canyon, please avoid the Skywalk. Rent a car and take the extra couple of hours to go to the official visitor center at either rim.
I think what you mean is "Native Americans". The vast majority of Indians live on the other side of the planet to the Grand Canyon, so are unlikely to be involved in running the Skywalk.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:40:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This exactly. My husband and I flew into Vegas so we could drive out to Zion and Bryce. Little did I know he would end up proposing to me at the top of Angels Landing in Zion. Fucking amazing!!!!! We did one show in Vegas to say we did something there (and won $35 in slots...wahoo!), but that was the extent of our excitement there. Just a stepping stone to cooler stuff.
The Vegas landscape and surrounding areas is amazing. Even if you don't care for the 'Vegas Scene,' many of the shows are actually really good and the sights in the city like the super fancy hotels and gardens are fun to tour.
My gf and I spent a week and Vegas, and had a blast. But we only spent a handful of hours gambling - the rest was seeing the sights and getting out and doing things. Museums, shows, Hoover Dam, kayaking, etc.
If you take a vacation to Vegas and get bored, it's entirely your own fault.
I never had any desire to go to Vegas, and then I got a job out there for about six months (split into little chunks over about two years) and was able to confirm my guess: no interest.
Nevertheless, it turned out great. Red Rock Canyon, Valley of Fire State Park, Lake Mead, Lake Mohave, the Hoover Dam: it was a blast. 100% would do again AAA+++.
This looks like a great tip! Being someone who has no experience with this, do you have to ask for the comp? How likely are they to just offer it up (without your asking) at the time of your deposit?
Do you deposit the money when you arrive at the casino? Or can you do this all online beforehand?
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:04:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wouldn't they work out that you weren't in the casino though? I imagine they would keep an eye on the high flyers. Especially if they are providing a room.
notjawn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:59:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well besides all the fees and taxes for moving money around this is a good point. They'd notice the first time you did it. Cue either them bombarding you with fees or just plain old kicking you out of the hotel, returning your money after taxing and more FU fees for wasting their time and a hotel room telling you to shove it and probably getting you blacklisted in all of Vegas.
Aski09 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:46:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or for the slightly more spendthrift among us, put 20 grand in the account, then each day take out 5 grand then deposit 4.7 of it back into your bank account.
You don't even need 20 grand honestly. I went last year, got a Total Rewards card with the Caesars properties (Bally's, Harrah's, Paris, and a lot of others), and I get rooms comped whenever it's not a peak week or weekend. And it's not just for Vegas; I get free rooms in New Orleans or anywhere that has a Caesars property.
And I only netted $200 when I went the first time.
I use the M life members card when I'm in Vegas and I get comps all the time. I just gamble with about $500 each time I go and they send me room comps and special offers. I usually win most of my money back too. Going to stay 3 nights next month with the room comped and free slot tournament entry.
As a university student who also works full time, I don't think I've ever had 20,000$ in my life. That's like at least 18,000 X what I currently have in my bank account lol
Going off this. Get a hotel club card. Just throw down a large sum of money at a craps table. Do this around their casino without spending much and you ok get comp'd.
Casinos aren't stupid. They track your play and know precisely what you spend. They aren't in the business of losing money... which includes giving away free shit to people that aren't actually gambling.
Your buddy is either gambling that large sum of money or lying about getting free rooms.
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 06:59:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In that case... your buddy probably gambles a lot. At table games, the dealer (or croupier) will call out to the pit boss how much you bought in for (and if you rebuy) and give them your card. The pit boss makes a note of your buy-in and then watches you play occasionally. S/He will make regular checks of your bets. When you leave... they will rate you based on your average bet X how long you played. What you drop on the table first does nothing to get you comps.
ETA: That's a good buddy to go to Vegas with!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:14:36 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love my F-150. I had owned nothing but Chevrolet my entire life, one bad experience at a dealership (idiot sales lady treated me like she didn't think I could afford anything, because I was in street clothes I guess) and I decided to try Ford.
This truck is the best vehicle I've ever owned. It's incredibly spacious and comfortable, reliable, and fun to drive.
I drove one for delivery work last year. So much fun to drive, and it was very comfy! Plus, it was built like a tank. I got into a fender-bender, and the only damage was the little plastic stand for the license plate at the front. Moron co-worker caused a 3-car accident, and there was barely a scratch. Not even a bent rad fin!
It really seems like my f-550 is going to run for ever and it's still basically new but I use it for work so it has about 40,000 miles on it after only having it for two years. It's a beast but still so fun to drive. I can take it anywhere on the work site and its even pulled out tractor trailers that got stuck in the mud.
And also like you said the inside is very comfy. The back is actually comfortable enough to get a good night's rest in.
What year is it? Diesel Fords from post 2007 (I think, I could be wrong.) have absolutely terrible engine designs. Things break constantly after about 80,000. The only way to get to most of these issue is for the entire cab of the truck to get pulled off, which costs about 4,000 where I live. Dump it while you can. The engineers who designed that engine should be hung.
The Diesel fords from post '07 are not too bad if you actually keep up on the maintenance to the letter. I would also not shit on them too much given that the 6.7l cummins and the Duramax's all see similar issues.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously. After driving an F250 power stroke pulling double trailers (5th wheel camper and a motorcycle trailer with 5 bikes) up canyons and for 6+ hour drives and never having any issues with it (180,000 miles) I just can't see myself getting anything else.
uhhmmk ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 17:34:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
neat!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:18:17 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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uhhmmk ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 17:33:55 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
neat!
zw1ck ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:14:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Them's fightin words
YadMot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:57 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are fords that bad in America? In the UK a Mondeo is known as a great (if slightly boring) family car.
No they aren't bad at all. There is a lot of trash talk about them though.
I have two in my driveway right now with well over 200k miles on them that I wouldn't hesitate to drive anywhere.
X plan varies wildly between different models. Trucks and SUV have the largest mark up and so they have the biggest discount, but x plan for a Fiesta will save you something like $250.
Document fees (and everything else about buying a car) are negotiable. Even if the finance guy says it's not negotiable, it's negotiable. Even if it's preprinted on the contract, it's negotiable.
Source: have never paid more than state titling fees.
Right, but haggling for that is a pain in the ass. Just telling them you're using the plan to get the lowest price you could get without going through the bullshit is nice.
[deleted] ยท 92 points ยท Posted at 16:19:08 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:51:05 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know if it works for Amazon, but it does for other online stores that offer a free returning policy, just order 100$ of other shit you do not want and return it.
Seriously. I have one for returning books on Audible. A friend of mine (along with thousands of other people) used to take advantage of the no-questions-asked unlimited returns policy by returning every book after he finished listening to it. I only return a book if I didn't like it so much that I would never finish it. I feel like if you finished it, you should pay for it.
Eventually Audible patched the loophole by limiting you to 2 returns a year or something. I'm pretty picky with audiobooks - for a lot of them, I just honestly have trouble following the story. Idk, some narrators annoy me, and I'm not an aural learner at all. Takes a great narrator and a story that works very well in that format, or I get lost/bored. So I really need to legitimately return more than 2 books a year.
I figured out how, and I'm never telling him or he'll ruin that too.
This happened the last time there was a thread like this. Someone posted how to get free inflight wifi on airlines that use GOGO. Something that I'd been using for years. A few weeks later the glitch was fixed.
First off, dont ever book a hotel through booking.com, expedia, travelocity. Just dont. You usually will get the cheapest, worst rooms in a hotel.
Second, provided you followed my initial piece of advice, heres how to cancel a room same day without the early cancellation charge. Call the hotel, and tell them your plans changed, and you need to move your reservation to next week. Then, wait 8 hours, so that the shift at the hotel can change. Call back, and cancel it then.
You say that, but I've always used Hotels.com and I've never had an issue with any hotel room I've stayed in (touch wood). Most hotels don't allocate rooms at the time of booking anyway.
No, most hotels wont assign rooms at time of booking. However, typically, a lot of hotels will assign rooms booked through third parties last. It really applies on nights that the hotel is sold out, or close to.
Booked through third parties where their membership isn't on the reservation and guests using associate/friends&family discount forms don't get assigned rooms because I don't know if they have a floor preference. Has nothing to do "getting the last rooms available" or "getting the worst rooms".
I only assign rooms for mobile check-ins and people that preferences on their reservation (low/high floor, near/away from elevator, feather free, etc.)
I can absolute agree with this; I worked on a hotel reception for a long time and I would allocate rooms in the following order:
Preferences (like away from lifts etc)
Regular guests (business guys etc)
Special occasions (honeymoons, birthdays etc)
Memberships & Loyalty Scheme Members
Bookings made directly to the hotel
3rd party bookings
Last minute bookings (on the day/walk ins)
And I was on vacation 2 weeks ago trying to get a new hotel room because of some mishap and I went to the hotel to book a room. No vacancies. I stayed in the lobby to use the internet to check another hotel and behold. Booking.com had an available room for this damn hotel. I booked it and went up to the receptionist and got my room key a few hours later.
I actually used to work at a HIE. I guarantee you, it's more about how nice and kind you are on the phone. I'll work hard when talking to kind people, only way I'll work harder is if you're an ass and the work is to inconvenience like the shit was my destiny
If sites offer a cheaper room than the hotel is offering directly call them up and explain you see it cheaper elsewhere but you'd rather not deal with them, ask if they will offer you the same deal, many will.
You can often negotiate a room on the spot in the middle of the night if your traveling. AAA discounts come out of nowhere if they think they can land you a room (and you don't already have AAA)
I tried this, they said no so I booked through expedia.
The room I got was $25 a night cheaper, and I think we had the best room in the hotel- the key selling point was the view on one side/end of the hotel, and we were on the 2nd (top) floor right in front of the "view".
If we're not anywhere near sold out, I would honor the rate and just go ahead and make the reservation for them. Better to sell a room than lose revenue for usually a mere $10 in difference.
Almost sold out? No, book it online and bring in the confirmation number.
As a night auditor please stop calling me :( I'm frying chicken back here and I have no patience to play over the phone discount haggle wars. More often than not you won't even show up anyway.
Okay, here's an (oversimplified) example of what I mean:
Say we have a hotel room that sells for 100$/night at the hotel itself. The hotel will sell options to an aggregator, a so called bed bank (e.g. hotelbeds, Kuomi, etc. - some major travel agencies, such as Expedia, will have their own as well). Prices may differ from bank to bank but for argument's sake we'll just say it's about 50$/night in this arbitrary example.
The bed bank now puts the rates into the distribution system the travel agencies can access. Obviously, the travel agency marks up the price to earn money, no surprise here. 30-50%, depending on the situation, is the usual rate. The rate you as the customer then see would be somewhere in the area of 70$/night. These are the rates the hotels will occasionally match as it's slightly favorable over selling the option to the bed bank (the hotel doesn't net 20$ more, since they have to cover the risks involved, like cancellations, payment fees, some included taxes, etc).
Here's where the fun begins: naturally, travel agencies (and/or bed banks) are competing with each other, so it's likely that somebody will sell the particular hotel slightly cheaper (i.e. the travel agency is making less money or the bank got a better rate). Once you throw in search engines (think kayak, trivago, etc.) which will have deals with the travel agencies, things get a little fuzzy around the edges. The agency pays provisions to the search engines. These provision sometimes aren't (fully) paid in cash but discount the rate itself (affiliate linking), since there's also competition between the search engines.
It very well may be that the price in our example will vary depending on the link to the travel agency:
- directly going to the agency results in a price of 70$
- search engine A will also result in 70$
- engine B will also give you 70$ but waives the payment fees
- engine C will drop the price to 65$
- engine D drops the price to 60$ but has a stricter cancellation policy (so, technically a different rate).
We have no reached a point where the hotels stop matching prices, because once you calculate expenses, it's pretty much a toss-up sith selling to a bed bank and the hotel may risk getting kicked out of certain affiliate networks for undercutting the "official" rates.
When you start throwing around coupons, travel agency reward programs (hotels.com 10 nights = 1 free night, for example) or even cashback sites, stuff gets crazy: if one or more of all the aspects above coincide, prices may even drop below the buying rate of the bed bank. It's a complicated process that involves a lot of trial and error as well as an occasional glitch in the booking system and it certainly doesn't make sense financially for the customer, given the amount of time that needs to be invested but I've seen people with weirder hobbies than that.
In the end you'll end up with a rate where nobody earns any money and some parties even operate at a loss.
If we applied that to our example, here's what it might look like: that 65$ rate from the agency in question combined with search engine C also offers a 15% discount coupon. Sometimes you can combine that with a cashback website and you might get another 10% out of that.
You have now successfully dropped your rate slightly under 50$. No hotel will ever match that rate.
RichiH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:06 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks!
That specific example does not cover the general statement by /u/TheMellowestyellow so I still don't understand why they were making a blanket statement. Yet, I can see how a chain of entities operating at, or slightly below, margin can add up easily. Also, the point of "if you undercut X, you're out of Y" sounds depressingly realistic.
It would be a loss leader, so they wouldn't be making (as much) money.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:15 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This may come as a surprise, but having worked in retail once, long, long ago, and at various places that sell things: People lie to try to get cheaper rates.
Weird, right?
RichiH ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:43:24 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most claims should be easy to verify either way and I kinda suspect hotels know what rates they give to reselling sites, so there's not much wiggle room. And the outliers can be curbed with a policy of "if we can't find it, we can't match it".
Yet, the initial fact remains: Selling at X amount and giving away Y as commission means you get X - Y money. Selling at X directly means you get X.
I know when I managed a hotel and someone booked through Travelocity or other sites like that, we only got paid like $30. So we'd tell people to call us directly because we can give them a cheaper rate than the site and we still make double what we would have.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:28:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Front desk agents/reservation agents hate dealing with customers who try to explain that they see a cheaper rate online & want it directly through the hotel, FYI. Just fucking book the room where you see it. And it's not cool to haggle a discounted rate using AAA or other service when you don't actually have that service or membership.
When I ran a hotel I encouraged the night auditor to give discounts to book the room and say something like "I'll give you the a AAA rate, don't tell the manager."
After a 11 we'd do just about anything to fill the place if rooms were going to stay empty.
I always check the hotel site as well as hotels.com, and never once has the hotel had a cheaper price. Also, I add in the notes, please put me on the highest floor available. And you can see in the notes exactly what kind of room you're getting. Not sure what the problem is.
In theory if a hotel chain is doing it right, Expedia, Booking.com etc will have the same price as booking direct due to a clause in advertising on those sites that you (the hotel) ensures the agent always has the cheapest best available rate. The best and easiest way of doing this is to ensure all channels are selling the same rate and therefore have parity.
However as hotel chains have to pay commission on these bookings, they would prefer you to book direct as they're not loosing 20%+ of the value on commission. If you find a hotel on an agent website check availability with booking direct on the own brand site as it's possible you might find a promotional rate that isn't on the OTA or possibly (as my chain of hotels does) we offer extra for booking direct like not charging for the gym and swimming pool, bolt on meal plans etc. And also if you start a booking and leave it, some hotel companies will send you an incentive email hours later (or just leave the tab open for a while) and you'll get a bonus if you finish the booking (10% off F&B, 10% off of stay, comp upgrade etc).
However saying that if you can't find availability at your favourite hotel (for an event in the area), try Expedia/Hotels.com as part of the agreement to signing up with their site is that they have an allocation of rooms they can sell even when the hotel is full.
Lastly if possible try and book as far out as possible; many hotels are much cheaper the quieter and further out they are (most hotel chains will only let you book a maximum of 365 days ahead though) to get bums in beds. the price then rises the closer to check-in as they get busier. Some chains even advertise publicly available rates x number of days out to entice those early bookers; due to how OTAs run their checks to ensure they are selling at the same rate as the hotel, these early booker rates often fall outside of this parity window - we're talking dirt cheap rates for 3*+ hotels at B&B prices!
Source - Me (I work in the hotel industry in Revenue).
I currently work at a hotel and can tell you that it's not that you will get the cheapest, worst rooms in the hotel, but it's sometimes not even the cheapest price. If my hotel is not sold out and we have plenty of rooms available, I'll usually sell at a lower price than what's listest online just to sell the room.
For cancellations, yes the whole change it to a next night and then cancelling works usually works (just don't call the hotel, do it yourself), but also, if you booked through the hotel's website and cancel online yourself, 9/10 times we aren't going to notice that you cancelled your reservation same day. Night auditors don't care about that stuff and most likely won't be looking anyway at who cancelled.
The ONLY times that I'll charge for a cancellation is if you call and try to pull something over me. I can tell when someone is bullshitting to get out of paying for their room, especially when they are well aware of the policy. If they try to call and cancel and then I see that they are changing the date and then cancelling or trying to get corporate involved, we'll go online and charge anyway.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:20:29 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I use booking.com for 6 years, 20+ bookings a year, and never had an issue. Always got exactly the room I booked.
The beauty of it is that I have instant reservation, which is many times very important for me, at least one third of my hotel bookings are for the same day, many unplanned business trips, usually to busy german cities (Munich, Frankfurt, Hannover), and in case of big fair event in F. or H. the prices of hotels are triple, and finding a good deal is question of minutes.
I of course had many times the front desk asking me if int he future I would consider making reservation with them directly, and I always politely refused. I had many times problems with fuckups on their side, in many countries - overbooked, or even after a confirmation sent out by email they had the dates wrong, or even after you have confirmation from them that they received your message you will be arriving after midnight they gave your room to someone and you were left homeless for the night (this is a very shitty situation after a long travel. But the couch in the lobby was quite comfortable, and my following 3 nights were unsurprisingly very much free of charge, as was complimentary room service dinner and breakfast)
Never ever had issue with booking.com.
My only issue with it - and other similar sites - is that whenever some hotel I want to book is "full" you never know how many rooms were assigned to booking.com. I know some hotel chains assign only like 10% of the rooms for internet portals, so many times when you think your hotel is full it could be very much half empty. Some hotels are already integrating the online portals with their custom systems so you always have real-time booking, but most of them have to keep the slots for online portals low, because they have to guarantee the bookings, so if a hotel has let's say 100 rooms, and asisgns 15 rooms for online, they will not take a big conference order for all their rooms unless they can safely take all the slots away from the web - otherwise they would either pay a fine or be completely removed from the portal.
I visit quite often one private apartment near a lake - family owned newly built house with 3 great apartments, very quiet, clean, nicely equipped. It costs 50 EUR/night to book it via booking.com. The owner said to me he would charge me only 45 if I booked directly with him via phone or email. I know it is much better deal for him - he does not have to pay the fee to booking.com but more importantly - he probably would not even keep in the books, I pay cash, never even asked for a receipt (when I book with booking.com I get electronic receipt and pay with card), he never offered one - so if I book via booking.com he maybe gets to keep 30 EUR from that 50. But if I book directly, he gets to keep all 45.
Now if he would offer 40, I would maybe get through the ordeal of calling a guy in Hungary who does not speak english and only poorly german, and still risk it that guy did not understand, booked wrong date and I drive 300km to find out the apartments are full.
But saving 5/night, so 15-20 EUR for my usual 3-4 night stay, is not worth the risk and peace of mind. I know he gets a lot of business through booking.com so if I would arrive there and he would fuck up and overbook, I am pretty sure he would make his very best to find comparable accommodation and comp the price difference if the only option would be one of the 2 fairly expensive hotels in the town.
egnards ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:43 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did the priceline negotiation thing to find hotels in both LA and San Diego during a trip down the cost 3 years ago. Didn't have a lot of money at the time so totally cheaped out on the "name that price" tool to literally pay bottom dollar for both hotels. . .Both hotels and the rooms I stayed in were very very nice, no issues at all.
tamtt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:19 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I travel a lot for work and most of the hotels i book they allocate rooms upon check in. I just ask nicely for the room I fancy (bottom floor if I'm feeling lazy ;) )
A matched rate by the hotel simply wasn't the best rate to begin with...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On a family trip it was my aunt's turn to look for a hotel, and she used Expedia and ended up putting us up in a shitty Quality Inn and we couldn't get a refund. It was disgusting.
I've gotten consistently great hotel rates with Expedia. Sometimes better than the rates on the hotel web site.
Bidding for hotels on Priceline was a gold mine a few years ago, but that seems to have dried up.
[deleted] ยท 748 points ยท Posted at 09:24:39 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't have to pay your taxes if...
No you have to pay your fucking taxes. I don't care what stupid spam email you printed off telling you that if you spell your name in all caps you're suddenly not the person on your birth certificate shell corporation or whatever half-baked horseshit someone told you in a bar.
telling you that if you spell your name in all caps
No, no, no you write every third letter in all caps. That way under common law the governmentโข plc registered to Barack Hussein Obama can't force me to pay because I am no longer held under naval law! Ugh smh.
"I accidentally put my car key into the doorknob on my house. Gave it a turn and the whole house started up. I started driving my house around. I parked on the freeway and told everyone to get out of my driveway."
- Steven Wright
Out of curiousty, and I might be entirely wrong on this (i was drunk at a party when i was told this), but i had a tax lawyer tell me one time that it isn't the not paying taxes that necessarily gets you busted, it's not paying for say, 6 years, deciding you want to buy a home or open a business, and then picking back up on paying taxes, is what will get you caught.
On a scale of 1-10, 1 being "HAHAHAHA that's so wrong" and 10 being "ding ding ding We Have a Correct Answer!", how wrong have i been remembering that?
No, if you fail to file taxes and have income that's reported to the government (W-2, 1099, maybe even retirement) they can find you. Although, unless they think you owe more than what was withheld they probably won't bother.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:34 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also from what I recall, they also do random audits of people who do file, so don't try and cheat
What if you only worked 2 seasonal jobs of which one paid 1.6k and the other 3k.. It'd only be $4.6k in total in an entire year.. Do taxes still have to be done?
NOTE: I'm not a tax attorney or advisor. I'd recommend getting professional advice rather than relying on random internet commenters.
That being said, so long as you didn't owe any more than what was withheld, I'm pretty sure it won't matter if you didn't file taxes for one year. In fact many times if you don't file, the IRS oh-so-helpfully will do them for you.
Tax lawyer here. That wouldn't work. The reason that we have the W-2 system is that your employer will send them for all their employees and IRS will match them up against what individuals file. There is a similar system for partners in a partnership (K-1s).
It's more feasible with something like a sole proprietorship or a small business - but you would need both the employer and the employee playing games with the tax forms (which is obviously a supremely bad idea).
Not paying taxes alone isn't criminal. But they'll assess fines and penalties, which can be arduous. The crime of tax evasion is one that the justice system categorizes as a "specific intent" crime. It means you have to not only not pay taxes, but do so intending to break the law and deliberately underpay. The law is this way because Congress realizes that the tax code is complicated and people underpay all the time unintentionally.
The greater crime is usually for not giving a return that accounts for income. Reference Capone, had a lavish lifestyle but never filed a tax return. Filing a return and not paying the owed amount due to hardship or laziness or whatever, is ill-advised and will make things more expensive, but isn't necessarily criminal.
Good to know, thanks guys for explaining all that :)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:42:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
There is a big difference in not paying taxes and not filing taxes. Had a friend who didn't file for many years. The taxes were still being deducted from his checks, but he never sent in the forms. It was only a matter of filing those delinquent forms to get him square again. I think he might have even gotten money back.
If you're not paying when you owe, you're more seriously fucked. You will need to file and pay all that you owe with penalties and interest.
I did that and found out they actually owed me five grand. Paid the fines took the money
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The IRS looks for suspicious patterns. A regular tax payer suddenly taking a 6 year break and then starting again would likely flag something for follow up.
However as I mentioned to someone else. Going to the IRS and filing all your back taxes will result in interest and penalties. Failing to file and getting caught is what leads to jail.
Like i said, i was drunk when told this years ago. I never like, tried it, or anything, but it'd pop up in my head every so often. Figured this was as good a place as any to ask about it.
egnards ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 15:25:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
BUT I'M A FREE CITIZEN OF THE EARTH!!!!!!!! YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW ALL THE LAWS OF YOUR LAND AND I ENJOY ALL ITS FREEDOM BUT DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW SHIT!
You misspelled it because that's how it was legally spelled. He just went by "Al Capone" because that made him a legally different entity from "Al Kapone", and therefore immune to taxes.
So tired of this myth. The wealthy, as a whole, pay higher effective tax rates than the poor or middle class. Sure there are individual outliers but on a macro level, the wealthy paying less tax in the US is a myth.
You maybe misunderstand the objection. I'm sure the wealthy pay more tax than I do in actual terms and as a percent as their income. The problem is that our law provides for progressive taxation rates but the wealthy engage in tax minimization and evasion schemes.
So the objection isn't that they pay less tax overall or that they pay a smaller percentage than low wage earners (although instances of that have been documented) but that they pay less tax than what the intent of the law demands.
If they're following the laws, then how are they paying less than the law expects them to pay. I understand your point and perhaps they pay less than you think they should but it's a tough position to take that they pay less than the tax code was written for them to pay. We can't possibly know that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:30 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They exploit the way tax codes are written to significantly decrease the amount they pay(which makes sense, ofc you'd hire an accountant that could save you millions a year). It's completely legal, the government needs to adjust laws.
I'm not a financial expert so you should be able to find some examples through googling.
Because they write the fucking tax code themselves (by having lobbyists draft bills with the loopholes written in). That's like the whole point of lobbyists.
It isn't like rich people make up these "loopholes" in the tax code. They take advantage of provisions allowing them to reduce their taxes the same way regular people do when they deduct mortgage interest.
But the intent of the law allows for tax minimization (not evasion). Here's one pretty much anyone can do, put the maximum in a 401(k) so it'll reduce your tax liability that year and be deferred until when you retire, where you'll likely be in a lower tax bracket. Bang. Tax minimization written into the letter and intent of the law.
You have options to take deductions as well. They are paying less taxes because they manage their money for the sole purpose of reducing tax liability. In the US, anyone can do it and they do. Most people do not pay incomes taxes in the US, they get a refund or owe nothing. The wealthy pay most of the taxes.
Most people do not pay incomes taxes in the US, they get a refund or owe nothing.
Getting a refund at the time you file your income tax does not mean you aren't paying taxes. Getting a refund means you already gave the government too much of your money (usually through payroll deductions) and they're returning them amount you overpaid.
The payroll withholding rates are deliberately set too high to ensure this happens. It persuades people to fill out their tax forms, be less unhappy about the whole thing, and those refund checks get spent quickly so the economy gets a little bump too.
The wealthy tend to pay more on April 15 because they have managed their tax liability to ensure they aren't giving a free loan to the US government. They will have paid before that date just enough to avoid getting fined for underpayment.
Yes, I know that it does not mean you are not paying taxes. However, a lot of people get refunds for what was paid through the year and even more than they paid in refunds. So, yes the IRS is getting ahold of that money but they are paying back the equal and sometimes, higher amount to a fair amount of the population.
I always put my dependents and adjusted my tax forms so the smallest amount came out, because like you said, it is a free loan to the government. I advice people to do this and there response is always like, "But, I like getting a big refund." They dont realize that they could take that money and split it into a MM, CD or savings and then have that amount at the beginning of the following year with interest (not much lately). People just have no self control.
cgar28 ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 15:53:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No,they pay exactly what the law allows. It's not a "loophole" at all.
km89 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:55:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what a loophole is. Something that is allowed or not prohibited by law or policy that allows someone to circumvent the rules.
Taking advantage of an offered deduction is not a loophole. Stashing your income in a tax haven country is using a loophole.
cgar28 ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 17:01:54 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not an ambiguous law, it's a specific tax code that they are following. Loophole would seem to indicate a means of evasion which is what loophole means, which would not suffice as that is illegal.
km89 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:04:49 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not what the word "loophole means." Loopholes are not illegal; they're legal means of getting around the intent of the law.
cgar28 ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 17:09:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is literally what it means. I never said it was illegal, reread
km89 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:11:49 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reread your comment. You clearly and unambiguously stated that a loophole is a means of evasion, and then clearly and unambiguously stated that that is illegal.
cgar28 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
(evading taxes is illegal) a loophole is by definition evading. Loopholes are ambiguous. The tax code is none of these.
km89 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:42:07 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry, but you're just wrong.
"Tax evasion" refers to not paying taxes that you legally owe, whether by outright not paying or by falsifying information.
A loophole isn't technically evasion. A loophole is something that should be illegal based on the intent or spirit of the law, but through oversight or mistake is not banned by the letter of the law.
The tax code isn't ambiguous. That's correct. Which means that the things that you can and cannot do are very rigidly, clearly defined. In my field, we'd call loopholes "logical errors" because even though the restrictions are very clearly defined, they don't address the particular situation at hand.
To put it in video game terms: A loophole isn't a mod or a crack. Mods and cracks are analogous to tax evasion. A loophole is a glitch that allows you to complete a level by hitting this one particular piece of scenery at this precise angle--not because the developers intended that to happen, but because they didn't notice that people could do that and so it wasn't covered; you've taken a loophole that allowed you to do something you shouldn't be able to, but that was technically not against the rules for you to do.
cgar28 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:54:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not a glitch or an oversight. It's a direct large burdening tax code. It's not a loophole because of this. You're wrong. It's completely legal. End of story
km89 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:09:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No shit it's completely legal. Are you even reading what I'm posting?
A loophole is legal. A loophole is a glitch or an oversight, except in the rare instances someone put it there intentionally.
cgar28 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not an oversight.
km89 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:24:20 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then it's intentionally there. Regardless, it goes against the spirit of the law or the tax code, which is why it's a loophole in the first place.
cgar28 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:01:15 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is no such thing as "spirit of the law". There is law and there is no law.
km89 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:05:20 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you just intentionally being difficult?
That's the fucking point. There is the letter of the law, and that's what's relevant. The intent behind the law doesn't factor into what the law says. A loophole is when the letter of the law doesn't match up with the intent of the law, which is why a loophole is legal in the first place, because the intent of the law doesn't matter to what is legal and what is not.
cgar28 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:08:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is no such thing as intent of the law outside of what the law states. That is for authoritarian schmucks who want to declare something that isn't true.
km89 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:12:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So laws are created for no reason, then?
There is an intent of any given law. Its just irrelevant to the wording of that law and how that law is enforced.
cgar28 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:49:50 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No? That makes no sense. That isn't what I said
km89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I first did research on this a few months ago but I can't find the article I read. Here's another that I think says the same thing but I don't have the time to read it right now.
You know the rich actually pay more taxes, even proportional to their income, right? Loopholes mean it's not as much more as it could be, but it's still more.
hicow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:41 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I doubt it's more proportional ton income. Payroll taxes are higher than capital gains, after all, and the very wealthy don't tend to make most of their income from punching a clock.
True, but the increase in marginal tax rates as you go up in income more than compensates for that. It's possible that there's a drop between the million-a-year crowd and the 100-million-a-year crowd, but the government's stats don't get into that fine a detail, so it's hard to say for sure. Insofar as the government gives us numbers, though, they increase every time you go up in income.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:21:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or be a church. Or sue the IRS in such volume that they give up and let you claim you're a church.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:50 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe a bit semantic, but there are wonderful legal ways to "avoid" certain taxes and reduce the amount you pay and people should try to do this. The problem comes when you "evade" taxes.
I could not believe that anyone was that fucking stupid, but I actually had someone who earnestly believed that capital letters thing try to convince me it was true.
They weren't the kind of person there was any point in trying to have an actual discussion with so I just had to give them a "oh wow, I hadn't heard that before. I'll have to look into that more sometime" and just grit my teeth lol
notjawn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:09:36 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, the US requires you to pay exit taxes (up to 10 years) if you cede US citizenship.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You actually have to pay what is a "fuck you" tax to the government. I dont work in industry anymore but i believe the first 2 million is exempted and then you pay a fairly heavy "exit fee" to renounce as a wealthy individual.
And you will be subject to your new countries tax regulations.
So yes. Pay your taxes.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:03:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't paid since leaving the army. I have worked odd temp jobs every once in a while but its been like 5 years and I haven't even looked because I'm afraid to. No mortgage though, so idk how they would keep track of me.
Dont be scared. Just went through that. Went to s real accountant. Fessed up. He laughed. He charged me 500 and a week later he found they pwed me 5k. No harm no foul. Just do it now and dont wait longer.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dont be afraid. The IRS is actually very forgiving if you are the one that comes forward and clears things up. If you have only worked odd jobs you will only face some penalties and interest and if you are nice the IRS agent may even work a deal with you and they will help you set up a payment plan.
If they find you however... you are in for a rough ride.
There was a thread a few weeks ago that said taxes were voluntary to file, that's why if you said you got income from drugs, you could be prosecuted, as you gave up your right to not self incriminate. How does that work?
It's not voluntary to pay your taxes. That's a myth.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:39:21 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its a misnomer. We do have a "voluntary" tax system on paper because we are the one doing the tax calculation not the government.
A lot of my clients would fire back with "but they force me to withhold!! Thats not voluntary!"
Taking money from your check isnt paying taxes. Its just setting the money aside (technically). You tell the government when you file how much you actually owe and they take your word for it unless you are audited.
Because they think laws are magic spells that have to be invoked with exactly the right words and exactly the right ingredients, instead of words written and applied by human beings.
you don't have to pay your taxes if you own 2 companies, 1 in the UK and 1 in Switzerland, then at the end of the tax year your British company "loans" all of it's money to your Swiss company, so that your British company has made ยฃ0 profit and therefore doesn't need to pay taxes and your Swiss company has actually made a loss and so doesn't need to pay taxes either.
SazzeTF ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:33:35 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's... that's not how it works.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:35:40 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FYI... loaning money hits the balance sheet not the income statement. So this idea doesn't work.
According to the Panama Papers, you CAN. If you have enough money.
SazzeTF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:17 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's generally not actually paying no tax at all but just very low. Say the country you and your company resides in has 25% taxes on profits: "Your" Panama company bills your other company some random shit and therefor ships over the money to Panama. Taxes in Panama is like 10% so you've lowered your tax bill with 15%. If your profit was a $100 million USD you've gone from paying $25 million to $10 million. Pretty nifty.
-d0ubt ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:49:31 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, just 'donate' a shit ton to a political candidate and 'suggest' they give you a bit of a tax break. You are a 'job creator' after all.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:44:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Politicians cant just waive your taxes. Thats not how that works at all.
-d0ubt ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:22:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True, they run on a platform of lower taxes, but when they get into office, 90% of promised tax cuts end up going to the donor class while everyone else seem minimal change.
When on a brand medication, you can get a discount on your copay as long as you are not a federal employee or have medicare or medicaid. Just google the name and find the manufacturer program.
If it's a medication that is costing you thousands, you likely don't have to pay a penny for it. They just want you on the drug. They only make money if you are on it.
As someone that works in a clinic and deals with no/low income patients...I appreciate what you do so much. In fact, some of the expensive drugs sometimes would give a patient a pre-paid credit card to also cover copays. ( I doubt this is still the case because they often used it to buy other things and when they came to us there where no funds left lol.)
Some drug programs give a credit card but it only works with the credit card machine at the doctor's office and then we make sure we get a claim from the doctor to make sure the MD isn't cheating us either. ;)
Yup. Recently got a prescription for Xarelto for dealing with my second DVT (in my thirties). The hematologist gave me a card to take to the pharmacist that got me a month's supply for free.
Yep. I am a beneficiary of this since my immune modifying 'biologics' are crazy expensive. I get partly covered by insurance but the rest is the company's subsidy program. They pay the pharmacy I work with, so I never see the money or the transaction. It just arrives at the clinic. (they deliver it to them since it's an IV medication.)
hthu ยท 430 points ยท Posted at 08:49:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Airline tickets. If you want to fly from A to B, try look for a ticket that flies from A to C with a stop at B. Sometimes, surprisingly, that's cheaper, and you just get off at B and don't look back. Now, for this to work, you obviously can't have checked luggage.
The airline's not providing a public service; you can do it the first time with said airline since you paid for it, but they have every right to bar you from paying them again and doing the same thing in the future.
That's not really true: they are a "common carrier" and required to act like one. If they were to lose their common carrier status, by failing in the duties required of a common carrier (which means basically taking anyone), they'd be utterly screwed.
I feel like the not a public service is a bit of a grey area. They get lots of tax breaks and services provided by the government.
Kind of like internet providers or public university. Doesn't mean you have an unconditional right of use, but pretending it isn't subsidized by tax payers is dishonest.
bg-j38 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:50 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you ever want to be slightly horrified look into everything going on around internet providers and not being considered a public utility. At least in the US the FCC has two classifications: telecommunications provider and information provider. Telecommunications providers are much more heavily regulated than information providers. It's in the ISPs' best interest to be categorized as an information provider and for the most part they are. It's a big regulatory issue the last few years.
Except that many airlines will try to hold the plane (for a short time) for the last passenger. Even a short additional delay on the ground costs a ridiculously large amount of money and screws with everyone's scheduling.
If you're going to do something like that the responsible thing is to call the airline and explain that you'll be missing the next leg of the flight for whatever made up reason you give them.
You're taking a seat away from another paying customer on the flight from B to C. It might not make a direct financial difference to the airline, but it's still kind of a dick move toward that potential customer who legit wants to get from B to C.
Yeah but it's a private company, they can do what they want
Neapola ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:56:17 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You shouldn't, it's your ticket that you paid for...
There are rules against it though, so it doesn't matter that you paid for the ticket since you broke the rules. Also: you can sometimes get a round trip ticket plus a one way ticket for less money than buying a round trip ticket alone, but that's illegal too. Here's an example of how it works (I did this years ago): Let's say you want to fly overseas for a two month trip. It's cheaper to buy a round trip ticket for one week. Use this to fly abroad but don't use the return ticket (let it go to waste). Then, buy a one way ticket to get you home. It's often cheaper than buying one round trip ticket for a long stay abroad.
I work in this industry, and yes. We will cancel your subsequent flights if you miss one in your itinerary. An empty seat on an airplane is lost money to the airline. Don't do this.
strp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:12:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand. The seat's been paid for, it's just not being used. Why is it a problem?
I think the airline can cancel your return flight if they are onto you. Works only for one-way trips.
[deleted] ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 12:25:08 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This. My MIL recently had a giant debacle where she missed a flight from Baltimore to Chicago, rented a car and drove to Pittsburgh, caught a cheap flight to Chicago on the same airline, and then found out that the airline cancelled her flight back because she had been a no show on her first flight. If the airline doesn't show you as having arrived at your destination, good luck getting that return flight... Or your money back when they cancel you.
Maybe they should change the price of the A to B flight to the price of the A to B to C flight, and then be able to book someone on the B to C flight without it being this big issue.
For this to also work, your flight can't be rerouted. If the airline decides to bump you to a different flight that has a different layover location, your kinda screwed.
XAM2175 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:02:59 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's called "hidden-city" or "throw-away" ticketing and many airlines specifically prohibit it in their Conditions of Carriage, so it's not really a loophole - it's just that the trouble of going after people for it is generally not worth it.
In addition, it is generally only workable in the first place in the USA because of the way airlines there structure their networks and price their flights. To control demand and increase yield on "non-stop" flights, their prices are inflated compared to connecting itineraries where the passenger makes one or more connections in smaller hubs along the way - for example, flying NYC-LAX via somewhere in the Midwest.
In most other parts of the world, airline networks are not really structured the same way. Try doing it in Australia with Qantas, for example, and your connecting flight itinerary will almost always cost more than the direct flight.
Also, as other posters have noted, an unexplained no-show on any flight in your itinerary will usually result in the automatic cancellation of the rest of the flights on that ticket.
bg-j38 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:37:35 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also for anyone who travels regularly and is part of a frequent flyer program, they will notice and they will possibly cancel your account, erase all of your miles, and revoke your status. I fly so much that I would never risk this.
Or, if you want to fly from A to B, book a ticket from A to C because based on your decision-making track record, you're probably better off not following your instincts. And I'm sure C is lovely and if you could stop being so stubborn and closed-minded about things, you'll realize that C has a lot of positives that you didn't even consider, like it's lively arts scene and funky antiques row. Look, I know that Sheryl was from B, but she doesn't live there anymore and you're not going to re-establish a connection with her by hanging around those same bars from 15 years ago. Just let it go, ok?
This seems to me like it wouldn't really work well outside of the US. Normally, if you change at an airport, they will be two separately scheduled flights. For example, if I were to fly from Stockholm to Paris, I could just buy a Stockholm to Rome ticket via Paris, but I could also just buy a ticket for the exact same Stockholm to Paris flight because they are scheduled separately.
Locate a friend or relative who is employed by an airline, and very nicely ask if they can spare a buddy pass. They are not allowed to sell them, and a lot of people end up not using theirs. Buddy passes will allow you to fly for free on a space-available basis.
Source: Am airline employee and the majority of my buddy passes have been used by my wife's work acquaintances (not even close friends). Also last year 8 of mine went unused (I get 12 a year, each worth one one-way-ticket).
You can do the opposite for this on the train. To get from A to B, it's sometimes cheaper to buy a ticket from A to C, and C to B, where C is a stop on the same line. Sometimes that's cheaper than one ticket all the way. If the conductor's feeling particularly dickish he can make you get off the train and get back on.
Disclaimer this only works in countries where the train system is as fucked as the UK.
XAM2175 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:41 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did that once in Australia where I was combining a walk-up single ticket with a particularly obscure season pass, after a rule change really cut back on circumstances on which you could use singles as "extension" tickets.
Conductor told me she'd let it slide as long as I set foot on the platform at ticket changeover station.
that's a great way to have your return ticket cancelled.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:57 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, I found this out in accident. Was flying somewhere and was meeting a friend that was driving (we live on opposite sides of the country, but the stop was about 5 hours from him). Anyhow, I had a layover in his city and thought that maybe a ticket to his city would be cheaper. NOPE, 25% more or so to fly less.
I ended up flying the whole way because an hour layover and 45 minute flight is better than a 5 hour drive
I don't get why anyone would want a one way ticket to B without any luggage though.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:40 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I did this to save 50 dollars on my flight and my flight B was canceled due to weather and I had to sleep at the airport in a state I've never been in. Instead of the flight taking an extra 2 hours to save 50 dollars it took an extra 25 hours
don't plan on a round trip though. on the way back when you attempt to get back on the plane, you will likely have had your ticket cancelled because you never finished your first flight, and didn't take the first leg of the flight back. also, no refunds.
Nah, she just gets a bit breathless. It's excitement that someone still actually knows what an aiglet is.
[deleted] ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 12:57:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is an un-intended effect of rules and policy systems which allows people or or groups to benefit in ways contrary to the intent of those rules or policies. This usually occurs where aspects/limitations of one system meet another. System incompatibilities like banning "elicit" internet content intending to eradicate child porn; the language system doesn't offer proper constraints on the term "elicit" and we end up banning equally tasteful content. A great example of loopholes were the creative ways alcohol was legally sold or distributed during prohibition. The laws allowed alcohol to be used as medicine and the laws made no limitation on labeling. I have heard reports that many people (most notably Winston Churchill) would be prescribed "unlimited" doses of alcohol for made up maladies. As for the labeling, many people report that wine companies would print large warning labels on bottles of grape juice explaining what NOT to do to allow the juice to ferment into wine. Whether either is true I am too lazy to check at the moment, but they are great examples of "loopholes" in the rules....aaaaannnd I just realized your question was rhetorical. Fuck it I'm committing to this response.
Torvaun ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:26:55 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
An example is a tall narrow hole in the wall of a fort. The soldiers inside can fire their weapons at oncoming enemies while staying relatively well protected.
Here's a loophole: If an AskReddit thread asks for loopholes, just give any kind of general advice. Free karma!
And another one: For any AskReddit thread, complain about how the answers aren't actually answering the question at hand. Bonus points for starting your post with ITT or being passive aggressive about it.
Yeah I don't give a shit about karma, I was just looking forward to reading a cool thread only to discover that barely any of the replies actually answered the OP.
Yes, that is a YouTube Red feature, but a subscription to that is also a subscription to Google Play Music so if you have one you have the other.
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RGB3x3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:49:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is. I can upload all my music to Google Play to listen to it anywhere, offline play, playlists, unlimited streaming, Podcasts, and a better designed app. I love it and with the $15 family subscription for up to 6 people, it's far cheaper.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't like how it handled podcasts but that is probably because I like beyondpod so much.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I don't know about other platforms but the Mac app burns 100% CPU for no justifiable reason and the Android app's UI is slow as balls, the music plays fine but it takes 10 minutes for the menus to load.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:46:20 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Or you could use the TubeX app, a third-party Youtube app. Less ads, and allows you to play in the background, or just play audio. That way, if you're listening to a music stream, you don't have to use the data to download the whole video, it's just the audio portion!
If you are at home, casting to Chromecast also lets you lock your phone or use other apps.
Zequl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:48:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or just buy youtube red
KenChoi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why do people care about using YouTube when your phone is closed. The point is its a video. There are so many cheaper and better quality music options. It really doesn't make sense.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:16:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:52 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In short, a jury in the United States can find a person not guilty, even if they believe that the accused did indeed commit the crime.
This can be used to nullify the law in cases where the jury determines that the law is wrong, and that the accused--while guilty as charged--does not deserve any punishment.
Of course, judges and lawyers hate this loophole, and will do everything in their power to exclude jurors that support, or even know about, jury nullification.
It's pretty rare because it takes the entire jury to agree on it.
A single juror can, in many cases, hold out until a Hung Jury is declared. However, if you're the one holdout you're going to be under immense pressure from 11 other people (and a judge) who may feel strongly for their argument.
If you're on a phone call and suffering through an automated system that only accepts voice prompts use nonsensical words that sound nothing like your given options.
The system will eventually (5 tries usually) route you to a live operator.
I use this trick regularly when dealing with prescription insurance companies.
If you get an operator you think may not be local to your area ask them to transfer to an "on shore" representative.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:45:56 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you get an operator you think may not be local to your area
talk to them anyway, they will have the info you need by definition. Don't be one of those weirdos who refuse to talk to people overseas just 'cause they don't like the phone cable getting wet or whatever the hell it is.
Speaking from experience Medicare plans (D are the plans I deal with most often) require an instant reroute to an on shore rep. Some private plans as well, I've simply gotten into the habit of asking for an on shore rep at this point to avoid having to repeat all the info yet again.
also, if the low level phone rep wont cooperate ... ask to speak with a supervisor. I got night vs day treatment doing that. Low level rep refused a refund of a late payment fee and the supervisor did it with absolutely no problem. And I wasnt a dick about it.
Does not work. My sis was 6 months pregnant and fell down a flight of stairs when the fetus leaned on a leg nerve. Her doc checked her out and said, "don't worry, you can't shake a good apple off the tree". Baby was born healthy.
Babarkj ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 16:20:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't make eye contact with guards when walking into a building. Talk on the phone or look at the elevators with full affirmation. They will think you work/live there.
I haven't stopped for those ladies in years. They don't have any right to check my personal property. I smile and say no thanks when they ask if they can check my bags then keep walking.
I've made it inside secure buildings this way (not intentionally). It helps if you look semi-professional, if you are wearing a suit and tie people will hold the door for you and hardly ever check for your badge. As a side note, this works 8 out of 10 times and the other 2 will not go over well.
Free Stock photos - find the image you want (w/ watermark), do a reverse image search in Google, set image options to high res only and boom. Save yourself hundreds.
gwiss ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 21:46:50 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. However I think this (if it actually works) might come in very useful if you are just looking for images for student/private work that you aren't releasing publicly or seeking to profit off of somehow. I think you should be alright if you are only using these images for a private portfolio of student/speculative work.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:04:50 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Google also lets you search by image rights, so set your search options to "Labeled for reuse" if you're worried about legalities. You can often find what you are looking for.
A shortcut for this is hold down the S key and right click any image to do reverse image search
SmoSays ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:10 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or you go to deviant art and look in the 'resources and stock photos' section, and boom, free (legal) stock photos. Can't find what you need? Message the stock photo artists, many take requests.
Oh man. I had quite the debate with my brother in law about this recently. I tend to bulk cook once a month or so, and freeze the meals to be reheated when I get home from work. I'll usually spend > $100 on produce, etc. and that will last my husband and I 3 to 4 weeks.
My brother in law, however, is insistent that he saves at least $80 per week by eating out for lunch and dinner. If he is really saving that much, I'd hate to think what his grocery bill was previously...
Eating out lunch and dinner every day has to be at the very least $20 a day. Even if it's just five days a week, that's how much you're saying you used in that 3-4 week period. I don't understand how that argument lasted more than a couple sentences before he realized how wrong he was.
I regularly cook for friends who come by my place, anywhere from 3 to 6 people, I have made plenty of meals for everyone that cost less than or equal to if we all got a cheap takeout meal. It is also healthier food and the portions are usually greater than the fast food equivalent. Time is the only factor that I can see being a big deterrent to this way, which is completely reasonable.
I know what you mean, personally I really enjoy cooking and taking the time to do so for myself as well as others. But also, for example, 6 dollars can get you a pound of chicken breast and four good sized sweet potatoes. You can cook all that in your oven and quickly (~30 minutes) have chicken and sweet patatoe fries for 2 or 3 meals. Everyone's for their own preference though, not saying there is a definitive answer as to which is the best option.
I found chicken thighs for $.95/lb last month so I bought 60 lbs. I marinated it all three different ways(teriyaki, bbq rub, and a tandoori rub) and grilled it all up before chunking it and freezing it in individual family portions. I have never had a cheaper or easier month of cooking dinner in my life. I would get home and only have to cook the sides then throw in the meat. Looking forward to the next time I see that sale.
I can easily eat out for under $10 per meal, usually under $3 or $4....$10 is a pretty nice meal. When people say it's cheaper to eat out they mean off the dollar menu not a nice take-out meal.
That's true. But the same holds true for objects of a sentence and prepositional phrases. In this case, you don't buy bread "for I," you buy it "for me."
I don't have much of a "plan" as such. I'm vegetarian though, and it's winter here, so hearty veggie stews, chilli and lentil curries are my faves at the moment. I don't eat a lot of pasta, but make and freeze my own pasta sauces for when I feel like it.
The part that sucks, is sometimes it's not. Example: if I want a pizza, I could buy ingredients to make pizza, but the cost of all those ingredients would come to more than the $5.30 I can pay for a Little Caesar's Hot n' Ready right down the road. Now you could say the ingredients would grant me multiple pizzas, and that's a valid point, but if I just want a single pizza for a single meal there is no way in hell making it on my own would be cheaper.
I'm with ya. Every time I want tacos, after I buy decent beef, shells, cheese, salsa, etc I'm out $15. Yeah it's two meals, but $15 is also two trips to Chipotle.
The US national average for regular ground beef was a little over $4/lb in 2015 but fell back under $4 in 2016, according to USDA. The most expensive thing I saw on the chart was boneless sirloin steak, which was still under $9/lb for at least the last 2 years - that would be a really gourmet taco.
DamonS ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 09:09:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bake some tortilla instead of buying shells. Buy the individual ingredients and make a batch of taco seasoning. Instead of buying salsa just use canned diced tomatoes, taco seasoning and chopped green chillies.
Chipotle recipes are actually really simple though, learning a bit of cooking and food preparing could go beyond the meal youre making now. There really isn't any secrets to the recipes to what we make in-house.
You're already putting in the effort to make them yourself, why not go the extra mile.
Isn't that the whole point to making it yourself and not buying them? You either have time/effort to make them yourself, or no money to buy them premade.
A lot of that is going to come down to your options. If you have a taco truck around the corner laying down carne asada and carnitas on homemade corn tortillas and half a dozen house salsas on tap, all for a buck and a quarter per, you're pretty much never going to beat that at home unless you're cooking for a party.
I'm lucky enough to live in a mecca of amazing and cheap mexican food but when I'm in the mood for tacos, for $10 I can get a bag of homemade tortilla chips, a container of freshly (and professionally) made salsa, two tacos of my choosing, ie. one chicken, one barbacoa, along with a side of homemade refried beans and rice.
I do have to go pick it up, though. That part always bums me out.
I'm pretty sure all of the spices to make tacos (if you don't have them already on hand) would be more than the $15 just to get Chipotle twice. Spices are really expensive.
Making tortillas requires a lot of ingredients as well. Flour, baking soda, salt, lard (not sure about that one though, it's just listed as an ingredient). So you have to buy a bag of flour, some baking soda, probably some lard. Most people have at least salt laying around the house though. Or you can buy a $2.08, 10 pack of tortillas instead.
Ro Tel diced tomatoes and green chilies is $2 for 28 oz at Walmart. Buying a 6 pack of diced tomatoes is $5.48, plus $1.26 for one can of chopped green chilies, if you do it 6 times that comes out to $7.56. So that ends up being $13.04 for just the vegetables compared to $12 for the Ro Tel. That's not even counting the taco seasoning for each batch. If you want salsa instead of Ro Tel, well that's $5.94 for 64 oz so you're not saving any money buying individual ingredients. You cannot compete with a factory making things in bulk.
Your advice is great if you already have all those things or aren't broke. If broke, $6 to get yourself lunch is cheaper than spending lots of money to buy things to cook for yourself.
yeos_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:18 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If I'm too broke to afford the 15 dollars to go grocery shopping then I'm definitely too broke to spend 6 dollars on a single meal. Potatoes are dirt cheap.
you can get a huge container of taco seasoning at sams club for less than $10 that probably has at least enough seasoning to season 20lbs of ground beef for tacos.
You also need to pay for a Sams Club membership and have enough money to buy things in bulk and be able to store all that extra food. Please stop acting like everyone has excess money and extra room to store stuff. Living in a studio apartment with a half fridge because you're broke AF doesn't afford you the same luxuries as someone with a good job, a big house, and money to spare.
It is cheaper for a lot of people to pay $6 now to eat instead of paying a couple hundred to get everything they need to fix food. Some people pay that $6 and that's ALL they eat that day. I know it's hard to understand when you haven't been poor (at least you seem that way to me) but believe me, hunger sucks and being so blind about how hard it is to literally just eat when you're poor doesn't help anyone. Saying, "oh just buy all the ingredients and it's cheaper per unit of food you make" is all well and good if you can afford to spend all the money on everything you need to cook all that food. Some people don't even have ovens man, how are they gonna cook all that food on a hot plate?
oh yes, the old "i don't know anything about you, but i will claim you have never been poor and I have been, so any argument you have is automatically defeated because you are a rich jerk"
You don't have to have a sams club membership to by things in decent size quantity.
I am not saying that you can buy all the ingredients to cook an exact duplicate of a Chipotle burrito, that would be a lot of work and expensive, but if you are really so poor, there are plenty of simple to cook meals that cost nearly nothing. you can buy large quantities of rice and beans from walmart (no fancy pantsy samsclub required) and if you are living in a studio apartment and claim you don't have any space to store food, what else is filling up all your space? No one is saying you should store a commercial size quantity of everything, just a few staples.
First off, I never called you a jerk and even explained I just was inferring that you didn't understand being poor. Second, you have to have a sams club member ship to buy things at sams, which is what you were saying to do. Third, have you ever been in a studio apartment? They aren't big, maybe a bed and a dresser can fit in them (at least the ones I was in). What staples should one buy then? I'm not poor anymore but I grew up dirt poor and eating because school had free breakfast/lunch, so someone saying to just "go buy food" does sound like a jerk because they don't know the situation someone else might be in. It's not always that simple.
i have been poor. 6 years of my life I spend living with my grandparents because my parents couldn't even afford someplace to live. yeah, studio apartments are small, but keeping with the mexican theme, you can store dry rice and beans extremely easily. i guarantee there is room in the corner of your room, or under your bed, or any number of places that you could store 10lbs of each of those without problem and they are extremely cheap carb and proteins. If not, you need to get rid of some crap that is cluttering up your life and preventing you from saving money. even without a sams membership, you can buy 10+lb bags of those at walmart quite cheaply.
so, we can have a pissing contest about who grew up more poor, or we can simply look a the numbers and accept that nutritionally sufficient meals can be produced far cheaper than buying premade food like chipotle. Now, the phrase nutritionally sufficient doesn't make people visualize delicious barbacoa burritos with guac, but this argument was never about being willing to pay a premium for more delicious food on a shoestring budget.
That's the thing though, the argument was never about nutritionally sufficient meals. Everyone was literally saying go buy groceries and get all these things to make what you are getting at Chipotle instead of buying chipotle. Obviously if you get a bag of rice and beans it's cheaper. But that was never the argument, people were telling others to just buy more food and again, it's not always that simple. Now you're moving goalposts and saying well just get a bag of rice and beans. Well, no crap that's cheaper but that wasn't the original argument.
there is a happy medium that is still far more cost efficient than eating out. it might be as simple as you only get one type of salsa instead of getting all 3 types at chipotle, or everyone who is eating gets chicken instead of one person getting chicken, one getting steak, and one getting beef. I think we have different ideas of what the original argument was.
Also, i wasn't suggesting just eating rice and beans alone, just that those are major components that when bought in somewhat large quantities reduces the per service price to nearly nothing.
Yeah, I think we do have different ideas. To me, it sounded really pretentious and full of "why not just have more money". It's easy to forget what advantages you have when you don't perceive them as advantages was what I was trying to get across I guess.
I wasn't trying to attack you or anything, just trying to get my point across is all.
I don't know man, every time I go to Chipotle I spend at least 9 dollars for a fucking burrito bowl, that's with a water cup not a fountain drink. Yea I add guacamole but still, that's about 20 dollars for two meals there. I feel going to the store buying the ingredients I would spend a little less and get an extra meal worth.
The investment of your time is a cost, too. It's cheap to make your own pizza dough, but waiting for it to rise properly, shaping, baking, etc. is and investment of several hours, whereas a Hot N'Ready is approximately five minutes and five bucks.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:02 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
20 minutes in a bread maker or any mixer and 20 minutes to rise.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:05:49 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bread makers cost money
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:09 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But saves your time. You don't need to use one. Plus a basic one is about $45
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:20 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's like 8 pizzas!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:59:14 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lets pretend you eat pizza twice a month. That's 24 pizzas a year. Lets pretend each pizza you buy premade is $5.63 as you suggest. In order to pay for itself the 'made with the breadmaker pizza' has to be less than $3.76 to make. If it is then you're saving the difference each time.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:05:17 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Truthfully, I was just messing around (They are 5 dollars and change, though), because this comment chain is speaking specifically of the cost to make 1 pizza, and even goes on to say that multiple pizzas may be cheaper, but one pizza is not.
I have to make all of my own pizzas anyway, (without a bread maker) because I can't eat the glutenz.
A Base is flour, water, salt, yeast and olive/veg oil.
whoa whoa whoa.... i want a pizza, not a mess!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:07:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bread makers will turn flour, water, salt, yeast and olive/veg oil into amazing fluffy dough for you in about 30 minutes, no mess, no fuss, no getting flour goop in your fingernails.
Just remember to grease up the bread pan first.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:18 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
20 minutes in a bread maker - 10-20 minutes resting in a warm place (or until it doubles in size. I believe after this you can freeze the bases but I haven't tried.
Pizza dough is easy and super cheap. I bake periodically for pleasure and have all the ingredients for bread which I initially spent some 20 bucks on, but I've been using the same supplies, maybe a refill on flour, for a year or two now. Every loaf I make makes all of the previous ones that much cheaper. It's like paying a subscription to somewhere, the more you use it the cheaper every visit gets.
A bag of flour and a bottle of olive oil alone is more than $5.30
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Since you've used dollars I'll use American units.
7oz of flour does one pizza base, 1tbps of olive oil does one pizza base. Both are items that do not spoil quickly and can be stored for a long time. Lets assume you use olive oil - You can use vegetable oil so I'll add that at the end.
The real secret to making this work is to keeping certain ingredients on hand at all times. This way you can buy each thing in larger quantities (not necessarily stockpiles, either) when it's on sale.
To make it even cheaper yet, you invest a little time and money up front to grow and preserve some of your ingredients. If you eat a lot of Italian tomato sauce, it's definitely worth it to have what you like for $0.20/jar.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:36:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Please define. The rest of us only know New York and Chicago styles. A precious few of us know the difference between Italian and Sicilian. What is Detroit style pizza?
P.S Bruce: Classic crust pizza with chicken, mushrooms, and tomatoes (fresh, added post-baking), or any other 3 ingredients you like: $10. Less than half the price anywhere else. Take it home, add garlic and some herbs - bam, pizza victory. For $10 and some change... entirely edible.
K. Just clicked your link. No wonder you love Little Caesar's. Thanks for clarifying.
r2d2go ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:59:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of the time it costs more to buy pre-made parts (e.g. pizza dough) than the cheap versions of the finished product (e.g. little caesar's pizza). Pizza dough costs like 2 bucks to buy but flour and yeast costs like 50 cents for the same amount of dough.
Still if you're going by "this is how much I have to go out and buy today", there's always going to be cheaper options. Like, if I only go to Costco, it'll never be cheaper to buy 30 meals worth of ingredients than one meal out.
If you keep ingredients, this isn't an issue. You don't spend several dollars on flour for one pizza, you use pennies worth of flour to make pizza. Ingredients can make more than one thing. Buying supplies to make pizza enables pizza making, whenever you want. Without having to do the math.
What I do is make a bunch of sauce, and buy lots of cheese and freeze them in sizes fit for 1-2 pizzas. Then if I want pizza some night, i'll make the dough in the morning and let some of the sauce/cheese thaw all day, then it's ready to put together in the evening.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:39:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is a non-argument. If you are buying generic products, you can get things really cheap. Get a kilo of flour, you can make as much crust as you want for a few dollars. Get a large bag of cheese (you can get frozen cheese, which is cheaper and come in big bags), you got cheese for whatever uses you may have. Get a pallet of tomato paste, and you can make 24 pizzas for 10 bucks.
If you only look at "single meals" you can rack up the price. If you plan ahead, and assume you may want another pizza in a week, you can buy in bulk, and save money.
To eat cheap, you have to buy bulk, so you need "starting money". You get cheese for 10 pizzas, but you may have to have 7 dollars to afford that. You could get cheese for 1 pizza for 1.50. In the short term, the 1.50 cheese is cheaper, but in the long term, it's the 7 dollar cheese.
Some things scale better than others. Whether or not something is cheaper to make at home will come down to a triumvirate of ingredient costs, speciality equipment costs, and labor costs (both yours and theirs). There's also usually a break even point where you would have to eat this X times per week/month/year for it to be worth it. I cook a ton, and have some pretty esoteric equipment, but you only really save appreciable money on certain dishes.
Cicer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:03 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The part that sucks is when you have to clean up not only the dishes you used to eat with but also the prep dishes.
Right. If I make my own pizza it's because I want to partake in the act of making pizza. The combined cost and time of making it myself is generally not significantly better than ordering it.
This is a topic of some discussion in /r/frugal. Some people think that since they earn $40/hr, then doing anything at home that takes an hour and saves less than $40 is not worth it. However, this doesn't stand up unless you would or could otherwise be at work; you think your time is worth $40/hr, but unless you are self employed and can sit down on the computer and earn that $40 in an hour instead of making a meal, your free time isn't worth $40/hr. Most likely your time is only worth $40/hr for 8 hours a day.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:45:32 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Dollar value of your free time =/= your hourly wage.
hicow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:42:03 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also consider the "If I weren't cooking, would I just be fucking around on Reddit?" factor.
I freelance a little this and that, but what I make freelancing isn't necessarily the critical factor, as I don't come home from work and immediately start working side jobs. I need some time to decompress every day, and sometimes part of that decompression might be cooking. Other days, it's, "screw it, I'm running up the street for nachos."
I've weighed the pros and cons of this recently. My problem is that I plan cooking, but often food goes bad. I like Aldi's though for things that don't go bad.. Rice, beans, 33 cents for 80 tortillas? Hells yeah!
I think this is only true if you eat cheap processed foods like hamburger helper. Buying fresh meat and produce is expensive as fuck.
There are a few meals I make that are cheapish, but the vast majority of them work out to about what it costs to eat at a restaurant.
If i factor in the value of the time I spend shopping for the groceries, prepping the food and cleaning up after a meal, it is ALWAYS cheaper to dine out.
The only reason I cook at home is that it's more nutritionally sound.
I've tried to teach myself how to cook several times. And it is way more expensive to cook something you would expect from a grandma. I made potatoes au gratin, cost me 17 fucking dollars (and 3 hours of my time). And I'm not including buying a large thing that I will only use half of and keep the rest in my cupboard eventually using again. Enchiladas suizas with refried beans and mexican rice cost me over twenty.
I live alone which is part of the problem, and I live in the inner city where grocery stores have you trapped and they know it, which is also part of the problem. But cooking at home is not anywhere near as cheap as people like to think.
I once made a mushroom risotto that cost $45 dollars in total. And it turns out I hate mushroom risotto. (I tried it at restaurants twice after just to make sure that it wasn't just that I suck. I may suck but I don't like any mushroom risotto.) True story. I feel your pain.
I rarely eat processed foods at home, mainly fresh meat and produce, and most meals come out to like 5 dollars a serving. When I do bulk stuff in the slow cooker I can get it down to half that. When I go for the higher end stuff it's obviously pricier but it's not necessary at all for healthy and tasty meals.
I still eat out a lot cuz it's convenient but I definitely save a ton when I cut down on it.
It's obviously dependent on where you live too, around here restaurants are expensive but grocery stores are average.
I live in no mans land, and the closest restaurants are over a 30 minutes drive away and then they are all crappy chain resturants or fast food, so I have no choice but to cook all of our meals at home. I can buy the best ingredients and cuts of meat for a lot less than any of the resturants. In fact, the last time we went to one, I was so shocked by how much the bill was for the mediocre meal, and once you include the tip, one lunch with no drinks was equivalent to two days worth of home cooked meals. Now, if we had some decent restaurants by us, I wouldn't be bothered by the extra price because I would justify the extra money as time saved on having to go to the grocery store and cooking the meals. Having said all that... I only wish we had a few good places to go for lunch and dinner. I'd rather spend a few extra bucks for the convenience and extra time to enjoy other things.
When ordering at Chipotle if you order a burrito bowl you will get significantly more food. They will charge more for extra chicken but if you say stuff like "can you put a lot of rice?" or simply ask for more of the item you want they will usually add more. Plus you can get a tortilla on the side and essentially make your own burrito.
Chipotle employee here! We as employees know the amount of stuff we put in your meals. We are trained hard for it. We have a 4oz rule for most ingredients and our salsa cups are exactly 4 oz, so imagine that amount for almost everything. When it comes to cheese, I personally give them more cheese because our standards are fucking shitty, we're supposed to grab it with three fingers only. But really if you are being nice and polite, we are more likely to give you more portions!
What can I say? She asked me what I wanted on it. I said "chili corn, lettuce, and cheese". I get a fair amount of the other two, and a smidgen of cheese. "Can I have more cheese?" She picks up a pinch of cheese which was probably about 3 bits of shred, puts it in the burrito while giving me a look that said "can I get away with this"?
Did she get away with it? Sure. I paid for the meal.
Was it worth it to Chipotle? I don't know. My wife and I haven't been back since (it's been months).
Is it worth it to lose two customers over an ounce of cheese? I don't know. Maybe their profit margins are that tight.
I was at Subway a few years ago, and as someone who doesn't enjoy most toppings, I asked for jalapenos on my sub. He put three pieces on my sub. "More, please." He puts another two. "More. A lot." He cautiously puts four more on. "More." The other employee behind him had apparently watched this exchange, casually reaches into the bin, and drops a handful of jalapenos on my sub. I laughed happily and said 'perfect', while the first employee looked genuinely terrified at the thought of someone eating that much hot food. A friend was with me, and he lost it, while I just paid and casually ate my sub as if this was the most normal thing ever.
I will admit that it was a little bit too much in the end, but nothing that would ruin a sub. I was definitely glad I had a large soda. But mmmmmh :)
Yeah well i'm sorry to hear that, our portion for cheese is literally a pinch. I hate it too, trust me. One thing I know though is cheese is expensive. Everyone tends to over portion our cheeses when it comes to quesadillas so managers get stricter about it. I personally think it's bullshit. If you're paying $7+ you should get your money's worth.
So charge for extra cheese. Most fast food joints do that.
joors ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:24:51 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's strange! Literally every chipotle I've been to has been super liberal with how much food they give (including cheese). I usually have to tell them 'a little cheese' otherwise it's almost too much lol
I do this but I ask for a tortilla to be put on the bottom first. Always worked for me!
Gricexe ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 11:39:49 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. This is actually the case in most (but not all) states -- the tow lots aren't police or government agencies, they're private businesses, and they have no right to keep your property without your consent. They have to release your car to you, though you'll probably have to get the police down there to get them to do it.
Of course, you do still have to pay them eventually. The fact that they can't keep your car doesn't imply they can't still send you a bill, send you to collections, sue you, etc. They have the right to do all that -- just not to keep your car.
Tow companies are shady as hell with this stuff. One by where I live charges something like $200 a mile and has a deal with the police that anytime an officer is in an accident they literally drop whatever they are doing to go get it and give the officers some stupid cheap price like $50 total. So the police will call on this place every time they arrive at an accident scene. Then the people usually don't have a choice but let them tow it or the place will tow it anyways and then it needs to be taken out of storage for an insane price. Had a customer two weeks ago come in with a tow bill for $1200. The tow companies get around keeping your car by saying they won't release it without payment since they rendered a service.
In Ca, If you find the tow Company in the act of towing but has not removed your car. You can demand a release, and they have to release your car without charge.
They must provide a pay phone at site of Tow Lot.
They must provide all proper paperwork and proof of you being liable for a tow.
In Ca, If you find the tow Company in the act of towing but has not removed your car. You can demand a release, and they have to release your car without charge.
This is the law, but they'll take it anyway. I once caught a tow-truck towing my car and they jumped in the truck and hauled ass. I chased them through my complex yelling "drop my car!" and they just dodged me and left. I called the cops, and they told me the law as you stated, but there's no enforcement of it.
Tow companies are the scourge of the universe. They're scum, and there needs to be massive reform in that "industry."
I'm not sure what the actual laws are here in Michigan just that is how this one company operates. I do know the first point some companies here charge a fee just for picking up the car and will not drop it without payment, which they usually say is cash only.
The problem most people have is that they don't own their cars - a lending institution does, so proving it actually is theirs takes more time, which adds to the bill.
I always wondered how it could possibly be legal for them to just hold your car indefinitely and charge you up the ass for it.
KuroAi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:40 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
False. My brother owns a tow truck company. For the vehicle to be towed and held it was most likely illegally parked and we will tow it. Now if you get pulled over and have no insurance we will tow it and by law we do not have to release it. Hell i did a tow away for this appt complex on some hoodlums illegally parked cops got called and the cop straight said rules are posted on the fence then told them they could pay 50$ now and i drop it or 150$ plus 25$ gate fee
rampje ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 17:29:20 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you need to sit on a toilet that has a super sensitive automatic flush you can cover the sensor with toilet paper to keep it from flushing while you are still using the toilet. This discovery has enriched my life.
Iop21 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:14:51 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm so sorry for you.
rampje ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:01:38 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't need to be sorry any more. My bum's dry.
Iop21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:54:57 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 99 points ยท Posted at 06:19:37 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
You don't have to press any buttons at all when using self-checkout at the store. Don't even press start, or "choose payment." Just scan your items and swipe your card or put your cash in.
The older versions of the software are way less user-friendly. There's one branch of my preferred supermarket chain where I have to do EVERYTHING exactly as expected or I'll end up having to get the assistant over.
No wonder the elderly hate the bloody things.
Gwelp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately with plastic bags being 'taxed' here in the UK you now have to press the number of bags you have.
Same with gas stations. Dont bother with the menus, just shove your card in.
qwell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:10:42 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At Home Depot, you have to press Finish. Everywhere else I've used one has been good though, except Walmart, where you have to press "I don't want to bag this item" 3 times before an associate has to come over to clear the error.
I got an actual loophole (I think) This may be very useful for all the steam users here.
Want to buy a item on the market/ a game that's under the 5$, but you can't because the minimum deposit is 5$? Don't worry!
First you gotta go to steam games under 5$, then list them from cheapest to newest. You'll find games with very specific prices, things such as 37 cents or 2,25$. Buy one of these games, and then refund them. When refunding, choose "refund to steam wallet"
Ta-dah! You just saved yourself a little bit of money by doing this. If you do it a lot of times in a row, it'll say "Pending Balance" and you'll have to wait a day until you get it, but hey, still works.
vonlowe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:52:06 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't think you could refund games on steam?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:05:20 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It takes a while, but you can. You have to have played under 2 hours though.
Many episodes of episodic games can be completed in under two hours...
I feel like this thread is bringing out my inner Scumbag Steve
vonlowe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:22:24 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's odd the only game I've bought (I'm a cheapskate with internet stuff) on steam, specifically said no refunds... Don't know if it's specific to the game or steam in Europe.
Shh, the kids think they made up something clever, let them have this one. None of them remember when you could get liquor in coach on a domestic flight anyways.
hicow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:48:01 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What? Every flight I've ever taken has had (overpriced) liquor available in coach.
But you're not allowed to open them on a flight. Was about to do it on my way to Vegas and the flight attendant informed if I did that there would be a marshal waiting for me at the gate
Yup. My bad. Some say anything over 140 proof and others say all liquor. You may get the stewards to open it for you but itbis illegal to open it yourselves. So, don't let anyone see you do it... if you do.
You're only not allowed to be SEEN opening them on flights. If you pour it into your can of La Croix when they're at the other end of the plane, they're none the wiser.
My friend went on holiday, and bought a bottle of brandy in the duty free section. He proceeded to drink it while waiting at the airport and then did so on the plane. He doesn't remember much except getting onto the plane and waking up in his hotel room the next day. Talk about irresponsible.
Now, here in the UK, most airlines won't allow you to drink alcohol bought in duty free. Lots of people started to do what my friend did, and flights were getting disrupted with people on stag parties and having to land the plane before the destination due to fights and aggressive behaviour. In JFK I was shocked that my duty free items were directly delivered to my gate in a sealed bag opposed to just being given to me at the store as it is in Europe.
ITT: Only one or two of these comments are actually loopholes.
t-- ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 11:03:59 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When the coin dollar came out, the gov. banks wanted it to be in circulation. So they sold them online at cost price with free shipping. People learned fast that they could gain flyer miles or points on their credit cards at no cost by paying their credit cards with the coins they just ordered. The coins never got in circulation after the loophole was discovered. The coins are still very rare.
vrtigo1 ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 14:27:52 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A few years back Microsoft had a cashback program where'd they'd give you 10% cash back on anything you ordered after searching for it with Bing. It was supposed to get people excited about using Bing. People quickly caught on that they could use it to buy things like gold coins that they could resell and pocket the 10% cashback. Didn't last very long.
I got in on the tail end of that. By that time it was harder to do. The US mint was limiting how much a registered user could buy. You could get around that by buying unregistered, but the problem was.... the guy who delivered your coins didnt have to have you sign it anymore so they left all that money on your porch. And it could disappear (then all your profit would be gone). Also, credit card companies were combatting this by calling money bought from the mint a cash advance and you couldnt get rewards for that. Also, bank tellers were suspicious as hell when you tried to deposit that much coin. I had to make up a lie that a person who owed me thousands was begrudgingly paying me back in dollar coins.
I made a whopping $100 in profit and just stopped because it was such a pain in the ass and nerve wracking.
Note: if your post office has stamp vending machines they used the dollar coins to give back change. I used to like spending the dollar coins when they first came out. I was also into metal detecting and was routinely going up to a post office vending machine (in an open-all night, but no workers were there post office branch)... putting alllllll my coins I found with my metal detector into the machine, buying one stamp and then hitting the change return and I would get my change back in more easily spent dollar coins.
Fun fact.... back in 1999 (I think) they were using Susan B Anthony dollars to give back change in those machines and they ran out of the coins (because people would keep them instead of spending them) so the US mint had to start making them again for that one year to fill their machines. The next year they finally got to minting the golden dollar (saccagawea dollar coins) to put in the machine and stopped minting the susan B coins.
I recently went to a post office and saw that they had a stamp vending machine that basically printed out stamp labels for exact amounts so I dont even know if they use the old stamp vending machines anymore where you could buy a single regular stamp or book of stamps.
joeltb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:58:00 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You sound like a fun person to hang out with! Also, your username is somewhat appropriately related to your story. LOL
Which company exactly was taking credit card payments in coins and then removing those coins from circulation? Also, how.
None of what you said made sense.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 14:14:34 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So the Mint, who produces the coins, sold the dollar coins at face value ($1). If you ordered 250 or more at a time, the Mint did not charge shipping.
You take your rewards credit card, purchase thousands of dollars worth, get free shipping. Now you have $2000 in coins in your hand that cost you exactly $2000 on your credit card. Go to the bank, deposit the coins, pay your credit card bill. You now just were rewarded with $2000 worth of points for free.
The government got mad because the point of the coins being sold that way was to have them circulate. They were not circulated because the coins went right back to banks, and the banks would in turn, ship them back to the Fed or to their vaults waiting for someone to request dollar coins, which nobody ever does.
That might be why we Aussies can sometimes buy bags of new coins online with shipping costs but not direct from the mint for face value alone. As an aside, dollar and $2 coins are cool. You collect them and have a hoard, ours are gold. :-) Here are some new special edition $2 coins. http://m.imgur.com/a/uA2TK
XAM2175 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate to do this to you, but no circulating Australian coin since Federation has been struck in gold.
The current $1 and $2 coins, which entered circulation in 1984 and 1988 respectively, are composed of 92% copper, 6% aluminium, and 2% nickel.
The last circulating Australian coin struck in any precious metal was the 1966 50c piece, which was composed of 80% silver and 20% copper. Due to a major rise in silver prices at that time, production was halted through 1967 and 1968 before being replaced by the current design in 1969, struck in 75% copper and 25% nickel like the 5, 10, and 20c pieces.
Tyloor ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:37:54 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was probably just talking about the color of the coins
ROFL :-)
Yeah sorry, I know they aren't gold, we just call them gold coins. sorry about that. Like if there is a fund raiser at my kid's school they will be asked to take in a "gold coin donation" meaning $1 or $2 as opposed to a "silver coin" which is the others (5,10,20,50). My bad, it didn't occur to me that that would be confusing but you weren't to know. My hoard looks like a gold hoard though and actually those $2's add up quite fast when you get a good container full.
Thanks for doing the research though. :-)
XAM2175 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:33 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Should I mention that I'm Australian?
You said "You collect them and have a hoard, ours are gold :-)" like you actually thought they were - and, unfortunately, I have met people who actually thought they were.
And yes, they build up quite quickly - over five years in a cash-handling job allowed me to put together over $400 worth of the various special issues, including a sealed Armaguard bag of the purple Diamond Jubilee $2s.
Lol, I read about someone on here whose Mum thought they were gold but I didn't know it was actually a thing to think they are gold. As for the sealed Armaguaed bag....that sucks. Those coins are supposed to go into circulation, not straight from the armaguard van onto eBay for a huge markup.
I know a laundromat that sometimes gives out $1 coins when I change my $5 (or larger) bills. People (me as well) just put them right back in the machine to get quarters. Looks like I should start keeping them.
If you're lactose-intolerant and can't drink milk, you can say "thanks mr skeletal" every night before bed and still have good calcium.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:10:08 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You used to be able to pre-order games on Amazon, wait until a day before it released, and then cancel it. The day the game released Amazon would email you the pre-order bonus codes, but never charge you for the game.
I live in a major metropolitan city in north america.
There is an arterial road in this city that runs east-west. In the very centre of the city this road stop dead at the entrance to an old university campus and starts again on the other side of it. to exit from that road at this place you have to take a small ramp to get onto a north-south major arterial road that doesn't have any turn offs for nearly two kilometers in either direction.
To basically everyone in the city this is a massive shitshow of traffic jams and bullshit.
To me, and a few others, it is not. Because there is a way through the university campus. This path takes you through two or three automatic gates. Those gates open if you approach, but are enough to keep most people from trying.
If your phone bill or tv bill is too high. Call at the end of the month and tell them you want to cancel and are planning on switching over to the competitor. They most likely will lower your bill for a certain amount of months. My mom called and our bill was lowered for six months.
That's assuming you get through to the correct department. I work for an ISP but not in retention. People seem to think that "I want to cancel my service because it's too expensive" are magic words for free things. I don't offer them anything, because that's not my job. I just start the process of cancellation and tell them how much the HTT charges are going to be for early termination.
Most people will drop the act and say they don't really want to cancel, they want their prices lowered. Though some people, out of pride, have had their services ended that way, which usually costs them a lot more.
I like your style, I tried the same with 1/3rds of bills but it just didn't have the same effect, they laughed rather than screamed and there was no blood.
You literally need both serial numbers to get a new bill. That's like, half the reason we even have serialized dollar bills. Probably joking, but I think this is mildly interesting knowledge anyways.
Proof positive that Treasury does not do things by halves.
XAM2175 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:09:20 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amusingly, in Australia the value of a partial banknote is paid based on how much of the banknote you actually have, as long as you have at least 20% of the original note to begin with. There are special measuring gauges for it.
Umpa ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:40:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Two $20s?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:04:45 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
There's a lot of reasons why this wouldn't work, the biggest one being that banks won't take your frankenbill if they can't match up the serial numbers, which is a law put in place to prevent stupid shit like this from happening.
For reference, a bank will take mutilated money that is:
50/70% or more of the original (depends on the institution)
Has an unobstructed presidential portrait
Has matching serial numbers on both sides
Any of those are missing, and it'll be declined.
Something tells me this is a loophole fraud you've thought of conceptually, but have never actually tried to do in real life.
vrtigo1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:24:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually from what I've been told anything over 50% of a bill is still legit. I'm wondering how they can tell the difference between 50.1% and 50%. Theoretically, if you cut a bill exactly in half...
Kryian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:54:05 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless whoever just doesn't care, what you really need is one full serial # plus part of the second.
What hes saying is that basically crtl+alt+del has priorities that are higher then fucking snoop dog while crtl+shift+escape doesn't which means that the first one will interrupt ervything else the OS is doing while the later will still try to fix other stuff that may have crashed.
Basically it means crtl+shift+esc may not work as well if your PC is completely overloaded.
You can also make a program that reacts to the ctrl-shift-esc shortcut and makes the computer do something else instead. But ctrl-alt-del can't be captured.
This is also why you had to press ctrl-alt-del when logging on to older versions of Windows - so you knew it was the real prompt, and not some fake one that tried to snoop your password.
That's why it takes time, some stuff carries on running 'cause of higher priorities.
I did not know this. I'm not a computer science major. I'm not super into computers. They're a tool to me. All I have to go on is what other people tell me.
I have been led to believe that ctrl+alt+del is a manual override that will immediately stop whatever else your computer is doing to execute that command. So it's frustrating and puzzling when that turns out not to be the case. Yes, maybe I could have done some research and learned what ctrl+alt+del is actually doing at the computational level, but that doesn't really help me when all I want to do is solve the problem.
So yes, I was complaining about it taking time. Because I was under the impression that it shouldn't take time, an impression which the comment above mine reinforced. Now I know better, but there was absolutely no reason for you to get all haughty about it just because you knew a fact that I didn't.
I guess it depends on how your mind works. A lot of strategy game players use hotkey combos even though they could just click on icons. End of the day, personal preference.
If I want the task manager I right click on the taskbar and open it. If my system is being stupid and I need it to stop everything for a moment, I hit control alt delete which buys enough time during the interupt to kill the problem.
Just speak like you're happy while expressing your customer service issues on the phone. You will get anything you want if you include please and thank you. But still be a little stern in order to be taken seriously when there is a more major problem.
Lyress ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 13:57:50 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not a loophole, it's just social engineering.
it's not social engineering. i hate that term. it's just being polite. it is literally just another way of saying "you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar"
But you don't actually catch more flies with honey than vinegar. You will literally catch more flies with vinegar than honey. That saying is garbage.
Same thing for customer service. I'm polite to customer service reps and I generally get nothing for it. I watch people lose their shit on customer service reps and suddenly the manager is all over them trying to placate them with free shit.
Shit catches more flies. Being calm and assertive is the best way but.. we all know the squeaky wheel gets the grease. The customers who cause a ruckus are the ones that get what they want eventually.
Jmint12 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:17:04 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. worked the phones for a mortgage company for several years.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:08:02 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just got a 203k mortgage which are supposed to take between 60 and 90 days to close. I was super friendly and responsive with everyone at the mortgage company. Please and thank you, promptly signing papers and getting back to them as fast as possible if I missed a call. Closed in 59 days and everyone at the company said it was such a pleasure to work with us. Basic courtesy goes a long way.
I worked in Call Centers for 12 years. The key is to be firm but still be courteous and professional. If you are hostile, I am not giving you a damn thing and neither will my boss or his boss. If you are firm and courteous, I am going to work with you as there will be a mutual level of respect. Hell, I will probably go to bat for you to my boss if you are friendly. You're mean? Go fuck yourself.
Ashkela ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:24:11 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously. I had a woman on the phone for three hours once because the wait time for escalation was FOREVER and I refused to just drop her in the alternate queue because she was totally not at fault and I could tell. She was so apologetic to be wasting my time. Wasn't allowed to tell her I worked from home, was playing games on my phone while we chatted, I get paid either way, didn't get dinged for long calls when it was waiting for escalation (we were in transition and they knew it wasn't fair to get on us when it wasn't our fault), and this would guarantee I didn't take another call all night.
Ended up getting over $800 in charges reversed, and adjusting her rate plan so that she'd pay a total of $30 max for something that could have cost her thousands if she hadn't noticed the issue (out of country data charges on her daughter's phone).
When I worked at AT&T, your average call time had to be 3 minutes or less or they were on your ass. It didnt matter what was going on. So, when I felt bad for someone, I would write down their account and a good contact phone number and give them a call on my break or after my shift to work it out with them.
Ashkela ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:19:31 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, that sucks! You can't place an order that fast, even if the cust knows exactly what they want! We were supposed to shoot for 6 minutes or less, but when they were messing with the WAH metrics and dropped the escalation line and made us go into a chat room where the managers were supposedly waiting, it slowed waaaaaaaaaaaay down. There'd be something like 1000 WAH people nationwide and 10 managers in the chat room.
There were times when the hold time was well over an hour. You had to fix their problem, try to sell them additional services with overcoming two objections and have an average of like 175 seconds. It has been nearly 20 years since I have been there. Other places I have worked were much more reasonable on the metrics.
if you can get the person in your corner, you can get amazing things. these are the people that know the loopholes in their system.
i know people hate on comcast, but i was friendly to a woman in sales over the phone. our call as about 30 minutes long, but she found a way to get me 170Mbps for $55 a month. the bill is full of line items that finagle the price down.
it's just about getting the person to want to help you.
I actually worked at AT&T back when long distance calling and the price wars were a thing. I handed out several benefit or credit packages to customers I really liked to where there bill was like nothing for 6 months.
tdug ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:40:36 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you're calling Comcast, from my experience.
Agreed, don't act like a shit and people will be more accommodating. Such as a routine police stop for something minor be a shit and they will find something else wrong with your car.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:13 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I once called to costumer service of HP in my country, I asked the guy about some problem I had with my laptop and we ended up talking about martial arts and stuff, I also got my problem fixed
gnawp ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:37:14 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When buying coffee at a gas station with the automatic cream despensers, just fill up a cup with that gourmet coffee cream. Pretend it's a coffee. Shits expensive.
Or be related to a cop. Leave a your city here PD hat in the back window of your car, and ideally keep your relative's card next to your insurance card. When handing over your license and registration give the officer that card too, and usually they'll let you off with a warning.
If you're listening to Spotify on your computer, press pause a second or two before the song is over (the part where there's no song). Then, click on a new song.
It doesn't count as a play, which means you never have to listen to commercials, even if you're not paying for Premium.
until you get so tired of the one spotify ad they run (for their paid service) that you would literally rather tear your ear drums out than hear the stupid ad again. i used to pay for premium, but my budget does not allow it anymore. I cannot use their ad-supported service because the ad's are too annoying. pandora has a much better ad-supported service (also, fun fact, pandora makes more off the ad-supported experience than their paid users).
Or just sign up for premium, which doesn't have ads. Then you don't have to stay by the computer and race the end of the song. Plus, as a bonus, Spotify is ever so slightly more likely to continue existing!
Or just use Soundcloud which is free, has no ads and the only reason you would pay something there is for beeing able to upload more.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:04:47 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You see. There's a loophole in the bible that works really well, so you can get off without going to hell. All Hail Mary full of grace in Jesus name just go to fith base.
I can't stand "regular" people that carry around keys on their belt with all that damn jangling. I HIGHLY doubt most of them don't own a bunch of properties that they visit daily or a bunch of locked things outside the house that again daily they get into. Keep your car key and your house key on your person. Leave all them other bitches at home.
also, parking attendants. I got free parking that should have been $20 a day for an entire school year just by making the booth attendant feel special for a few minutes every day. it was not as cold and calloused as that makes it sound, though. i genuinely enjoyed the interaction, as well. however, i would be lying to myself if i thought it was because the person liked me. it's because of how i made them feel every day.
My local news website will restrict access if you don't have a subscription but to get around that you can just google search the headline and click the story and view it that way.
In my state (Arizona) the law says that a tow company can't hold your car "for ransom" until you pay them. You just have to show your ID and they have to release your car to you. The tow clerk didn't believe me until I called the cops, showed them the statute, and the cop ordered them to release my car.
edit: city ordinance...most cities in AZ have the same ordinance which says the same, in effect.
Most cities have their own ordinances (regulations) on what tow companies can do, look up the specifics for the city you get towed in, but most in AZ are the same as Phoenix:
36-144 C 4 states: No charge shall be permitted in connection with the release of the vehicle, including providing such access as may be necessary to view, prepare for removal or remove the vehicle.
If you have a Panera Bread reward to claim (such as a free coffee), then don't use the kiosks in their restaurants. Those require you to purchase another item before being able to claim the free item. Instead, go to the cash register, because the clerks will allow you to claim just the free item.
This works in the US and Canada; I can't vouch for other countries. Quite frequently people will pay for items/services (think web stuff, people going door-to-door, landlords) with a check (cheque). At some point along the "deposit, hold for funds, clearance" process, people will decide they don't want what they paid for (or decide they want it for free) and will cancel the check, leaving you high and dry. To prevent this, certify the check!
Yes, a personal check can be certified, i.e. the funds are frozen in the account and after certification that check becomes the equivalent of a money order payable to you. CIBC charges $20 CAD for this service; Chase charges $8 USD.
To certify a check, go to the bank the check is drawn on (i.e. you can't certify a BoA check at USBank), pay the fee and they'll certify it. You have to be the payee ("Pay to the order of" person) or the payor (the one who signed the check).
Sorry if this is too much info; I just spent the better part of an afternoon explaining how to write a check to a US-born-raised-and-educated PhD Mathematician in his forties...he's never had a checking account :/
Not exactly: a money order has to be purchased (prepaid), and can't be cancelled. What I've described is a method to convert a cancelable banking instrument that doesn't require garanteed funds at time of issue into a guaranteed, non-cancelable banking instrument. If I write you a check for $50 then cancel it, that $50 that got deposited to your account will subsequently be removed from your account. If that withdrawal leaves you with a balance <$0, you will also incur overdraft charges. If you had authorized withdrawals or checks you wrote dependent upon those funds that were removed, you may also incur overdraft charges.
But if you certify that $50 personal check I gave you,that $50 has been frozen from my account: I can't cancel the check. Even if I went to the bank and closed the account, I wouldn't get back the value of that check you certified.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:46 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If it's a $20 check, yup it is. If it's a $5000 check, no it's not. Its a matter of risk, and how important NOT having that check cancelled or bounced on you is.
[deleted] ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 11:42:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They can't charge a husband and wife for the same crime.
b- A husband and wife cannot be compelled to testify; you are not prohibited from testifying against your spouse, but nobody can force you to if you don't want to.
If you walk out and notice your car is being towed, calmly approach the driver and talk to them. Apologize for whatever it is you are being towed for. Ask nicely if there is any way they can let you slide this one time. Chances are they will let you off with a warning, or at worst a small drop fee (much cheaper than the full tow). If you run out screaming and making threats your car is as good as gone.
Zintha ยท 252 points ยท Posted at 09:16:08 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think loophole means what you think it means.
[deleted] ยท 141 points ยท Posted at 15:30:52 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LIFE HACK: IF YOU TAKE A SHIT, USE TOILET PAPER TO WIPE YOUR SHITTY ASSHOLE. THIS PAPER WILL TYPICALLY BE FOUND ADJACENT TO THE TOILET.
It's more of a like getting around a rule or requirement. Something like: if you make an appointment at the DMV ahead of time, you don't have to wait for an available agent and don't have to spend hours in line.
Many people don't know you can make an appointment and dread going to the dmv because it takes hours to wait for an agent, so its a loophole. Admitted that is a bad example. A better one would be that you can get your license as soon as you've passed driving school instead of having to wait three months and get 40 hours of driving.
In other news, when paying for something that costs .75c, pay for it with a dollar, and the cashier will give you a quarter change. Do this four times, and you've got yourself a dollar.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:16:06 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have this second cousin who I despise and don't speak to for a multitude of reasons. A few years back she was "dating" a guy who drove a tow truck from 11pm to 8am. He would come pick her up and do sex stuff in the truck with the fat pig while he was waiting for calls. Came to find out from another family member that he called her his "tow ho" and she was proud of this fact.
So, anyway, there's a name for your porno. Tow Ho.
In my jurisdiction they make sweet bank by seizing cars. They get a fee from the city for removing traffic obstructions and then get to charge you a release fee plus a high daily fee for the pleasure of occupying part of their lot.
There is one notorious stretch where the parking restrictions apply at an odd time of day and they descend like sharks.
This depends from city to city, sometimes even from the respective tow truck driver. The companies have policies tailored around the local law, and drivers are free to act within policy. Being nice definitely improves your chances, but not always.
True. I've always been polite to...well, everyone, but offering something off the table (cash, weed - after broaching the topic, etc.) can get you out out inconveniences when someone's just doing their job, and not passionate about it.
And if it doesn't work, I respect the guy for doing his job.
I did this once when my car was getting booted. I apologized for being parked in the wrong place and asked if I could move it right then. The guy said he couldn't help me now but appreciated that I wasn't angry with him and that he would remember that. A few months later I was parked wrong again and I walked out to my car to see the sticker on my windshield that said I had been booted, but no boot.
Im not a perfect angel driver either, but their are usually reasons for those rules.
I accept my consequences too ,but theres a reason theres a stop sign on a busy street, friend.
That spot is probably illegal because of street cleaners, fire hydrant, narrow street, handicapped entrance, etc. Not just for no reason.
Congratulations that it was 8 years ago? Idk what that has to do with it.
My reply was about your mindset on illegal parking -
"Nothing wrong with parking illegally if you accept the consequences"
ive heard if your in this scenario to hop in the car and lock the doors, the tow truck guy cant tow the car with you inside because its considered kidnapping
No. Being nice will help, but you aren't getting off for free. I used to make my living that way, so if you missed the clearly posted signs not to park, you are going to pay. Where I was the drop fee couldn't be more than half of the tow charge, but only applied if you caught me when I was still on the property. Which is why I would do a quick hook up and finish securing the vehicle on the street, making a lot of noise, running my lights and smoking a cigarette.
Oh, and cash only for non-consensual tows. The law requires that you be given a 'reasonable' amount of time to get the cash. It doesn't define how long reasonable is and I made that determination strictly based on your attitude. Come out yelling and screaming at me? Yeah, I'll be gone before you get back from the ATM and you can catch a cab down to the tow yard and pay all the extra fees you wouldn't have otherwise.
But drop it for free? Just not going to happen. You call in when making a pick up, if you don't come back with the cash or the car, you gonna get fired because the company will assume you are stealing from them.
I used to live next to a parking lot near several block's worth of nightclubs and bars. I used to just sit on the edge of my bed, Friday and Saturday nights, and watch the tow drivers go to town on illegal parkers.
You must run into the nicest, coolest tow drivers ever, because all the drivers i saw, regardless of how the car owner approached them, would laugh and haul off the car.
The one and ONLY time in 7 months did ever i see a driver leave without taking the car, the tow driver had pulled up into the lot the exact second the owner of the car was getting back into their vehicle.
Also, while i agree politeness will often get you out of things, that's not a loophole. Most of us just call that "not acting like a douche to people (who are only doing their jobs)".
They're only legally required to give you the car if they haven't driven onto ublic property yet. So, if the stop them while the tow truck is still in the private parking lot, they may be required to give it back. But as OP was saying, he drove onto public property, and then started making noise, because by that time, he could legally demand the fee.
Depends on the driver, towing company and how they're paid to be honest. If they're paid hourly, probably not because there's a base fee that has to be covered for calling out the driver and whatever business is having your car towed won't cover that. If they're on commission it might work, but that depends on the driver and how he feels.
yep, tow truck drivers are sketchy as hell. I once negotiated a cheaper tow (in cash). The tow truck driver radioed in that he was doing a family tow (towing a family member for free).
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:29 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or just be scary enough. I had my car towed for expired tags and the driver told me id have to pay hundreds. I told him i would cut their fence and take my truck that night. They decided i wasnt worth screwing with and i got my truck that day.
Speaking as someone who has been in positions of authority before, not a chance. If you approach them calmly like a civilized person they will be grateful that their job is easy and continue.
Their job is to do an unpleasant thing that pisses people off. They can fail to enforce once or twice a day, but they can't avoid confrontation all day. So when someone is actually nice that's like finding a dollar bill on the ground.
It's like if you were a salesman. And you had to sell shit constantly and hit numbers. Then some naive, easily manipulated idiot walks into your store. You're not going to be nice back to him, you're going to sell the ever loving shit out of him and be happy that this one isn't fighting you.
A common misconception is that the code ends with Start or Select Start. In many titles, the player must press Start after entering the code in order to start a game, or press Select to switch to two-player mode and then start the game, leading to the confusion.
We have terrible healthcare and our police are out murdering unarmed citizens -- being ripped off by our Internet provider is the least of our problems.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:26:02 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're struggling to get anywhere when dealing with a big faceless company, find a name, any name.
Nine times out of ten their external facing email address is firsname.lastname[at]company.com
I once spent weeks being sent in circles by customer services at an insurance company, I emailed a company director using the above method and had a reply from his secretary in a couple of hours. Problem was resolved by end of day.
I've noticed that, too. The IT guys always use the same format for everyone in the whole company. Sometimes it's first initial, last name @ company, but once you know the name and the format you can contact anyone. It really helps when you need to get your resume to the hiring manager.
I was a peon at a big corporation, and by coincidence shared a last name with one of the way-high-ups. People would always call and email demanding to speak to the other person. I'd explain that we weren't the same person (had different first names) and they'd just INSIST i put them through. It's like, I'm a no one cubicle monkey, they don't give me a line to the CEO just because we have the same fairly common last name.
You had no way whatsoever of contacting the CEO? Like not even his assistant's secretary's secretary or something?
I mean anybody who contacts a company trying to reach the CEO directly is probably not worthy of the CEO's time, it just seems weird there's nobody more appropriate to redirect that to. PR department, maybe?
Nope. I was waaaay down the line at a company with thousands of employees. I asked one time how to transfer a call to HR and the response I was given was just to stonewall, that my number shouldn't be receiving incoming calls (it really shouldn't have), and that I should tell them to call a different number. I think big companies like to insulate the top management from the lower level employees.
At school, the nurse at the very least distrusts me and the fact that Fibro exists. I figured out that she always goes on break a couple minutes past midday. If she isn't there you go to the office who have no choice but to give you the benefit of the doubt and send you home.
Gas station had self serve soft serve. Rule was it had to fit on the cone. So I would buy a empty forty ounce cup for twenty five cents and then pay a dollar for the cone, fill the cup up with ice cream and put the cone on top. Forty ounces of ice cream for about a dollar fifty.
USA: You can avoid the penalty for not having health insurance if you manage your income tax withholding so that the IRS does not owe you a refund. The penalty can only be deducted from your refund, so no refund means no penalty.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:56:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, Obamacare fines roll over to the next year, the next and they never just go away. The IRS is the most brutal cock sucking collection agency in the world when it comes to fucking you over on your tax dollars.
You would basically need to be dead broke the rest of your life for your system to work out. It would be a nightmare!
The penalty can ONLY be deducted from a refund. It might roll over...but if you are not owed a refund the next year you still can not be penalized. That's the loophole!
Since one should never be owed a refund if one is properly managing ones taxes...one should never face the penalty.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:02:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeap, you run with that and let me know how things are going in ten years. Good luck!
They only have seven years to collect. So long as one perpetually properly manages ones taxes then the penalty will never be collected. Since millions upon millions of people already properly manage their taxes this is an easy loophole for many people.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:18:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn man, come on, if you are going to post important issues like this, make sure the information is correct. The IRS has 10 years to collect back taxes from the time they find out about the violation. So if they don't know about it for two, three or four years, add that amount of time to the ten years.
The IRS will usually file liens way before the 10 year statue of limitations anyway.
I think they want to keep from making it a legal issue that will get challenged.
IMO it is always best to owe anyway because otherwise you are giving the federal government a free loan (of your money) throughout the year. I always prefer to owe.
Also----per Turbotax, at least----if your lowest-cost plan available is below a certain threshold (which I have no idea what that cutoff is, sorry) then even if you only had insurance for say, 4 months out of 12 you won't end up having to pay a penalty.
That saved my ass last year.
Lyn1987 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:55 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not even. All you need to do is file your taxes online. As long as you have not put your information into your states healthcare exchange then they have no way of verifying that you actually have insurance.
amgin3 ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 12:08:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When you buy people gifts for Christmas, save the receipts and re-buy the same items on boxing day when everything is on sale. Wait a few days, then return the re-bought items using the original Christmas gift receipts.
Super fraudulent, and won't work on most big ticket things - anything with a serial number, for example. So no electronics over fifty bucks would be eligible. Kinda makes it more hassle than worth imo.
[deleted] ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 14:32:42 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Yeah. You're describing fraud. You are deliberately misrepresenting your returned merchandise to gain monetary compensation that you could not get without breaking the law. Have a local lawyer explain this to you if you don't comprehend what I'm saying.
Target has a company policy that expressly allows this practice. Buy something on sale, return it later and get a refund of the current sale price. My wife's friend works there and says the same people come in and do it every week - only they take it a step further and buy all of the item that's on sale to multiply their "earnings". She hates it, because it's a PITA and the people that do it are as rude and nasty as you can get. But, no matter how much she complains, the response from management is "that's policy".
That's not what they're doing though. They said to buy one at full price, give it away, buy one on sale, and return it with the receipt for the full price one, which is no longer accurate.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:42:04 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's bad if they buy the second item, but you're more than welcome to come in and ask for the discounted price if you bought the item within 7-10 days at most major retailers.
Yes, it's worse. The net result of the OP's scenario is only a retroactive discount on a product (which is kept), while in the Target scenario the customer actually receives a net gain while keeping zero products. Basically, they get paid cash for doing it, while the OP just gets the sale price earlier than it is offered.
His scenario actually mirrors a defunct Best Buy policy (other retailers may still employ it) which said 'if you buy this product now and it goes on sale within 30 days, we'll refund you the difference'.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:48:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OP's scenario is fraud, while Target's scenario is just stupid policy. One being illegal, the other just being stupid.
dan1son ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sort of.
A lot of stores have a price match policy that extend through the return period (mostly for this reason). That includes price matching with themselves. If you can return it still then you can return the older one and buy a new one at a discount. It's only remotely fraudulent because you are pretending to return the item you purchased earlier with the old receipt (it's only slightly different than bringing the old one with you at the same time to return it). And most stores don't track individual items except in certain instances and financially consider it the same item anyway.
I worked at best buy for a long time in the past and we'd happily just give you the difference back with just the receipt. No point in going through OPs craziness.
If someone came in with the same model on a receipt with unmatched serial numbers (like a game console or one of the other few high shrink items we did track) we'd question them. If they explained they tried to do what OP did and could provide both receipts and they weren't an ass i would've given them the discount anyway.
[deleted] ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 14:40:08 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't matter if you feel bad or not, you're still advocating crime in a life hack thread. Stop it. You can only say this is a good thing if you buy on boxing day to save money and also don't attempt to appear like a good guy by having the gifts in your possession before boxing day prices are in effect.
[deleted] ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 14:51:33 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And you think there would be laws about something similar for a different price being fraud, but there's no fraud in returning a known different price (but exactly similar item) for a different price? That's the part where you abandon logic to support your criminal choice. Look, guy, that was literally the first result I searched on mobile. I don't need to prove to you what you're doing is illegal. But you do need to not be that guy. This world does not need more of you.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:35:04 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You are explicitly NOT buying the item at the price they sold it at. You are buying the pre Christmas priced item at post Christmas prices. You are committing fraud to do so. Don't act like this is anything else. Justifying your fraud by proclaiming yourself to be anti-establishment doesn't make any sense either. These companies that you are defrauding (at Christmas time, no less. You monster.) actually do have a right to profit, just like you have the right to shop at a cheaper competitor. Nobody is forcing you to buy the things you buy at the price you pay.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Who even cares whether it's technically illegal or immoral? If you're so fucking hard up for money that you have to go through the process of doing this then maybe you should instead invest your time in finding a better paying job.
The law is what it is not what you think it should be. Always remember that. And if you feel that this is a big enough injustice to warrant action, then be prepared for the repercussions.
These identical items don't have identical price, which is why this is fraud. There are people who have gotten caught doing this, though only after years and years apparently. It's a good tip, though, just be careful.
Theres a really simple way to solve this puzzle. You lie about when you bought it which causes the store to return more money to you. Lying to take money from someone is fraud. So here's how you solve it.
When you go to return it, you can't lie. You can show your Christmas receipt, you can say I bought these on boxing day but I don't have that receipt with me, but luckily I bought the same item I bought at Christmas. Here's the receipt, Process return please. But you can't lie and say I bought this at Christmas and changed my mind now.
If your plan relies on lying, it's fraud. By definition.
I purchased a used Escalade about 10 years ago, the previous owner had paid for Sirius..... and I guess they are still paying for it, because I still get it, never paid a penny for it.
No, it's for testing and demo and will end when the shop closes. Dealers get a couple of them and maybe yours is one. XM also did a contact back in early 2000s for like $700 you could get a subscription for the life of the receiver. That could be it too
Sorry, it's 14 years old, math slipped this old mind. Yes, it runs great. I've had it since about 2008. But we don't really drive it that much, we use it for family trips and when one of the cars is in the shop. I have been driving it for the last three weeks because we had 6 family members from out of the country visiting. But normally we don't drive it for 3 to 6 months; then put 1 to 2 thousand miles on it. I think we've only put 30k on it since we got it.
Wendy's has a 4 for $4 plan where you can get a he bacon cheese burger or chicken sandwhich, small fries, small drink, and spicy or regular chicken nuggets. Good amount of food right? Wel, if you ask for a large, it only goes up to like $5 something. So you get tons of food and more than you would with any other meal for many dollars cheaper.
Depending on the state. I think like 37 states allow it. Mine technically doesn't, but I've done it in front of a cop before not realizing and didn't get pulled over.
I live in Canada, specifically BC. They actually tell you this in the drivers Ed book and sometimes people get quizzed on it on their knowledge test. I've never done it, as I don't live anywhere near a one-way street afaik
bdd4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, in many states, it's legal to be in an intersection when the light turns red, just not to enter an intersection when its already red. If you're trying to make a left pull out into the intersection and wait for the light to to turn red/the oncoming traffic to stop and complete your turn.
You are wrong, just usually so technically difficult to prove you downloaded it that it's not worth trying to pursue. Much easier to prosecute when you can say "I know the person at this IP address was sharing my content because I successfully downloaded it from them."
When you are calling a service provider; be it for phones, cable, whatever, you're likely going to get one an automated voice service.
Most systems allow you to skip over this and get to a voice representative by repeatedly pressing '0'.
So lets say you are calling Verizon - you select your language and once it starts reading off the menu items just start hitting 0. Eventually it will say that its connecting you to a representative or whatever. You still have to wait in queue, but you get to skip over all the other stuff.
sometimes, not all the time. Also those automated voice systems are designed to confuse and take a long time, often requiring multiple call backs to get out of the menu system. It saves time in the long term, trust me.
mcdouble or double cheeseburger (depends on location, the double cheeseburger price has a 50 cent price variance, and that's what i've found within michigan). add mac sauce and lettuce. just missing the middle bun as this point.
If you're planning on going to a cool or trendy bar on a date, just make a reservation. This is especially effective if the bar keeps a line outside, and you can breeze right past it. Makes you look like you thought ahead and are definitely more important than the fools standing in line.
Another good loophole is, a lot of lawyers will do a consultation for free. Then they'll charge you if you want them to do actual work like draft a document, send a letter, do research, appear in court, what have you. But sometimes they know off the top of their heads what you'll need to do and tell you, and sometimes you can do it yourself.
Another good trick is for any smallish legal issue, especially one with another person who doesn't have a lawyer yet, hire a lawyer to send them a letter. A lot will do it for a small flat fee because it takes them like five minutes. Lots of people will back down when they receive an official, scary, slightly hard-to-understand letter that cites specific laws and comes from a real lawyer. Significantly cheaper to cut it off at the head than getting into an actual legal battle.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 11:18:17 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:15:03 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is more of an artists tip. Got a mean case of artists block? Well, if you also happen to be a painter, try this: throw some paint, randomly, on to a canvas. You will think of something great to paint before the splotches even dry, because otherwise you just wasted a whole bunch of paint. And paint, costs money. Also, if you're looking to try oils but don't want to spend a shit ton of money, check the clearance aisle at a Hobby Lobby because they usually will have oil paints that are half price. And all the colors too, black, white, primaries, and some good yellows/greens/browns, all 4-8oz tubes($5-7 each). Itll probably be under $50 for everything you need, which is good for oils and will last you 2+ paintings depending on how thick you go. Also, cheapjoes. Cheapjoes is the best
03114 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:25:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On battlefield 4 using the commander mode, if you switch the camera to the live camera feed, you can kill anyone in the spawn using the cruise missile.
I don't know if this still works, but it used to be that if you incurred a debt after first getting service and the debtor refused payment.... the bill suddenly becomes null and void.
Used to be that flimflam men would go into a diner, eat a meal and then either whip out a $100 bill or a LOT of pennies to pay for it afterwards. And if the cashier said they could take that.... then you got your meal free.
This didnt work IF there was a sign in an obvious place that you had a GOOD chance to see before you ordered your meal that basically stated what forms of currency they only accept.
If you have a lot of money in your life's savings, lost your job and want to get on public assistance (food stamps/welfare etc etc).... take all that money in your savings and buy a home with it. You cannot get public assistance if you have a large amount of money in the bank, but property (owning a house) doesnt count.
Might only work in Missouri where i live. One time, I made so little money that I wondered if I qualified for any public assistance programs so I took the tests online to see if I did (I didnt qualify), but in the process I found out about that little tidbit above.
yet if you comply... you might get charged. Like say for an example.....
In NYC.... a cop asked to see a man's pocket knife he had clipped to his pocket. It was a simple thumb-opener pocket knife which is legal. The man handed it over willingly. The cop then gripped the knife by the blade and whipped his hand in such a hard and fast motion that the knife opened. The cop then called it a "gravity knife" which are illegal in NYC.
If the guy had politely refused the cop's request... this would not have happened.
There is such a thing as a lawful order (that you MUST comply with) and a request. Police often request alllllllllllllll kinds of things they dont have the legal authority to make you do. ANd will then fuck you for doing it.
You dont have to comply with an officer when he requests you do something. You DO have to when it is a lawful order.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:45:35 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cell phone plans are ridiculously expensive in most of Canada. Nation wide plan with unlimited calling and 5 GB LTE data can cost $90 easily. There is a loophole on Koodo website, where you can get above details for $48 only. This is supposed to be for specific provinces only (MB and SK) but people in other provinces can have it too, and that too without falsifying.
All thanks to the glitch/loophole on their website.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not as good as your deal. I pay $65 per phone and we only get 2 GB of data to share, that's not considering the $600 credit or taxes.
I used to pay $90 plus tax for the plan you are talking about.
This is our plan right now.....I just wanted to pay less. Maybe when the contract is up I might see if the deal you speak of is still available.
350 anytime nationwide shareable mins
Unltd nationwide E(6pm-7am)&W(6pmF-7amM)
Unltd sent& recvd txt,pic&vid msgs - Can
Call Waiting, Conference Calling
Call Display & Message Centre
2 GB for personal email, IM, Internet & tethering in Canada
Koodo is Telus subsidiary and Koodo is ranked really high in customer satisfaction.
I found Wind network to be subpar, and internet speeds as well. Anyways, that is my observation and might be different for you but I didn't find Wind service as reliable.
The difference was night and day when I tried to use my friend's phone last month as well.
Yes, but that's only if you live in rural areas. And frankly, doubling my monthly bill to also adding restrictions on what I can do is just bad math. I can't comprehend how anybody functions when they have to treat their cell phone like a pay phone - I'm not paying for service for some of the things I need to do, some of the time
It's still unlimited though. At no point do I get more bills because of where I walked or what I downloaded or who I messaged. That alone is worth the money, never minding the fact that I get to be happy with not supporting the "big 3". Fuck those guys. Literally the only reason I don't have to pay half a paycheck for cell service is because the government forced those big 3 companies to not continue their oligarchy years ago. We'd all be paying $200 a month for service measured in minutes otherwise.
It's Boolean. You either have service or you live in a place that's uncivilized. Canada is literally the biggest possible country to cover for cell phones with the least amount of reason to do so. This is why the big three companies constantly advertise that they have "the best coverage in Canada", despite the fact that 97% of Canada isn't even populated. I don't care how large your network is, I don't go to any of those places! Nobody does! I want a cell phone that works that doesn't cost ridiculous amounts to run.
friehnd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:31:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're a minor and sign a contract and break rules on said contract, you don't have to comply with the consequences under the law. It's because of something called "The Capacity to Contract".
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:49:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's why organizations won't sell car's, homes or do contracts with minors. If you falsify or misrepresent your age when entering into a contract, it's called fraud.
If you live in upstate New York, and have an EZ-Pass with the commuter option (which gives you unlimited trips of up to 30 miles for a flat fee), you can get an extra 30 miles of free travel by bouncing off at exit 25, and stay on I-890, which will put you back on the Thruway at exit 26. Flip that around if you are going East. The distance is almost the same, the only difference is whether you go past Schenectady or through it.
If your company is blocking services like Spotify and you spend endless hours on your computer and would like some music. Get a VPN extension (I use ZenMate for Chrome). It creates a tunnel to their servers and IT cannot see what you're doing. In fact, I leave it on almost 100% of the time, the only time I turn it off is when I'm using the corporate intranet (I actually have IE installed for that). Never have had a problem, IT isn't snooping on me, and I can use any service I want without a problem. Just don't let your co-workers know, because once everyone starts doing it, they'll ban the VPN servers and you'll be SOL. I work for a huge multinational company, and have been doing it for years.
Either ask for it on the side or dont order it at all but when you get to the window where they give you your food (assuming you're going through the drive-thru) just ask for some in a cup or act like you ordered it. McDonalds employees never care enough so they just give it to you.
I could answer this question. But then I would have to sue you.
Honestly, in my practice area, there really aren't any legal loopholes. When it comes to disciplinary cases, i.e. when lawyers are in trouble for violating the ethics rules, if there were any legal loopholes you would be a fool to try to take advantage of them. When you are accused of violating the rules, the last thing the disciplinary board wants to see is "clever lawyering." They want to see people who own up to their responsibilities. In legal malpractice, there really aren't any loopholes. Either the lawyer violated the legal standard of care or he didn't. Either he caused damage to the client's case or he didn't.
Most loopholes are located in areas such as tax law, which I tend to run away from. You will find loopholes in areas that are governed by a system of complex statutes and bureaucracies more than you will find them elsewhere. In criminal law, people like to claim there are a lot of loopholes, but the reality is, what you have is the requirement that those involved in prosecuting cases and arresting people follow the Constitution. I don't consider those loopholes. Sloppy legislation in criminal and other areas of the law can lead to loopholes though. By that I mean someone can get away with a crime because of the wrong word or because of where a comma is located. That comes down to people not thinking about unintended consequences of the law or people who don't understand how to put a sentence together properly. So you will see loopholes there.
If you want examples of specific loopholes though, you will need to ask people in specific practice areas. I would give you back your credits, but apparently they are going away, so I won't bother.
If there's a really bad traffic jam, sometimes you can move ahead faster by taking an offramp, going through the intersection and getting back on the highway. I do this most often during those nice Minnesota snowstorms where everybody moves at 2 mph. I do not however, drive on the shoulder doing this, because I am not that kind of asshole.
Garblin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:06:31 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Starving and homeless? Walk into any police station, ER, psychology clinic, or other human services location and tell them you're suicidal. You'll be admitted to inpatient psychiatric, get meds, food, and a bed, for at least a week.
psbwb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:26:55 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man, the inpatient I visited was great. I was told that if I was having any anxiety at all to come get some Xanax. Then every 10 minutes I was again asked if I needed Xanax or if I needed more Xanax.
Garblin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:29 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Strange, usually they escalate past xanax pretty fast at those places.
To get free wifi on delta planes, you have to go and say I want to watch free movies, keep on going until it asks to download the app, when the app store comes up, just quit, you now have free wifi for 10-15 minutes. When it expires, repeat
If you go into Whole Foods and say something like "hey my friend says you guys have this sticker so that I can try something for free" and usually they'll put a sticker or cross out the bar code. Can also try at the checkout. Say someone working said to ask the cashier.
Goonya ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:13 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In Victoria (state in Australia, similar rules apply to different states), an individual must record in a log book 120 hours of driving experience while on their 'Learner lcence' in order for them to qualify to sit the test for their 'Probationary licence' after they turn 18. Any adolescent will tell you that doing all the 120 hours is an absolutely tedious and mongrel thing to do (it does provide good experience though)
There is a way to bypass it though. Live in New Zealand.
I moved to NZ when I was 16, when I had my Australian Learner license and a log book with just 20 recorded hours of driving. Because I lived there I could get my permit converted to a New Zealand learners permit (no test necessary). NZ doesn't have the 120 hour rule, so when I was old enough (17) I did the driving test for the 'Restricted licence' with only about 50 total hours experience . I moved back to Victoria at age 18, got a certificate of particulars and got my NZ restricted licence converted to a Victorian Probationary one (Red P's, no test needed). A year after I got my NZ restricted, the local licensing authorities (VicRoads) sent me a letter saying I was now on my Green P's, which was cool because I hadn't yet turned 19. Now I hoon around town gleeful in the fact that my log book still has only 24 hours recorded in it. You could of course just forge log book entries, but that's not as fun as living in the South Island
TL;DR: Avoid driving for 120 hours by living in a different country for just under 24 months.
Bundle your property tax payments for maximum income tax deduction. Depending on your other deductions, and your deadline for property taxes, this can be a great tax saving strategy.
Example: Assume you have (for example) $8,000 every year in mortgage interest, $8,000 in property tax, and no other deductions. If you pay both normally, you will itemize deductions and take a $16,000 deduction every year.
To bundle, pay your 2016 property tax in January 2017, and your 2017 property tax in December 2017. (Note that the property tax payment deadline in many jurisdictions is early the next year. For example, mine is due on January 31. Be sure to check the payment deadline before trying the bundling strategy.) If you do this, in 2017, you will have $24,000 in itemized deductions - two years' worth of property tax, and one years' worth of mortgage. Note that property tax is deductible in the year that you actually pay it.
In 2018, you will only have $8,000 of deductions (since you will be paying your 2018 property tax in January 2019). However, the standard deduction for a married couple filing jointly is currently $12,600. (Will be slightly higher by 2018.) So in 2018 you take the standard deduction instead of itemizing. Total deduction for the two years is $24,000+$12,600=$36,600, as opposed to $32,000 if you did not bundle. $4,600 extra deduction translates to $1,150 tax savings every two years, assuming you're in the 25% bracket.
A local branch of a nationwide sub sandwich chain will give you their leftover bread if you ask for it around closing time. I haven't paid for bread in years.
Trespassing is a super easy way to get from A to B quicker. And 99% of the time the owner doesn't notice it doesn't care.
Just avoid B&E as much as possible.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:17:29 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you are a minor with a permit, you can get your employee or school to write you a note that allows you to drive... 6 months after getting the permit, without a license.
I know that you can just get the license after 6 months, but I have a mother who keeps DELAYING my trip to the dmv because she insists that I "need more time for my brain to develop." I've been driving for the past year.
If you're in a jury and think that the person on trial is in fact guilty but that the crime was justified, you can say that and the criminal will get off. I forget the name for it through
cecilrt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:23:16 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That you can park in a Handicapped space if doesn't have two forms of notice. You can't be ticketed or towed when it's just painted on the ground. There has to be a sign or post too. However, you're still likely to get keyed by some Social Justice Warriors.
This only applies to the parking garages with the centralized machines where you punch in your space number.
If you go somewhere in two cars, park next to each other but only pay for one space. If you get a ticket, take your friends parking receipt go down to the attendants office and say you punched in the wrong space by accident. They always void the ticket. Only have to pay for one parking space instead of two! It's the one of the cheapest most useless loopholes there is but it counts.
egnards ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:33:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not a loop hole. . that's lying and stealing.
It's pretty fucking sad that people are so hard up that they even bother to think of this shit.
SmoSays ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:17:30 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went to Chicago and parking was like $60
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
"Attention To Details" is the best (and easiest) way to attract the best spouse, get the best careers, have the nice home, get ahead in life and stay ahead. Not to mention be happy.
ITT: Every other comment reply is "You don't understand what a loophole is." The majority of us just want LPTs and not a lesson in dictionary definitions.
Buy an 80% AR-15 lower. You can buy them online. Bring it to your buddy who has a CNC Machine. But if you want to do it a ghetto style, you can get away with using a powerdrill and a flat bastard. If you want you can also anodize it.
Because 80% lowers aren't considered a lower receiver, AND the fact that the lower receiver is the part of an AR-15 that is registered as the, "weapon" (not the BCG or Rifle), 80% Lowers aren't stamped.
Then go to your local gun store and buy the rest of the parts for your gun. You can even buy rifle kits off of Palemetto State Armory.
Doing it this way allows you to can get yourself an unregistered rifle via legal means.
Well, it's more of a lifehack. In everything you do, if you want to do it well, see where other people made mistakes and aim to not make the same, then when you see your own life, be strong enough to face your own mistakes and not make them again. I also ask people, especially those closest to me, to tell me what I'm doing wrong. Give me the bad news first basically.
When speaking to a deaf person, you don't have to scream or do a shitty version if sign language. Over time, we learn to read lips.
The loop hole is that you don't scream at them or say "what???!!" And laugh at them, and you, in turn, get to have a respectable conversation with someone you may otherwise not have.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:42:33 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If it's a loophole, I don't want people to know about it.
For fuck's sake.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:11 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can easily buy stuff at stores use the item and return it for a full refund (within return date). I did this with several game consoles, cameras and phone chargers.
You can board flights in the United States first regardless of boarding group if you claim to be disabled. Gate agents are not legally allowed to ask you what your disability is and can be fined a large bit of money if they do.
t-- ยท -29 points ยท Posted at 11:14:39 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Welfare system a loophole. Single mothers don't choose good providers to help raise kids, (because being promiscuous is easier); and they somehow are able to survive with kids with ease, because they vote for a government that has no problem taxing all the hard workers in the country to pay for her bad decisions.
Anyone who says you can survive on welfare "with ease" has obviously never experienced the system, or known anyone who has.
t-- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:11:28 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
"with ease" meaning working getting paid without earning it. And it is easy because plenty of single mothers do it and we've seen an increase in single motherhood because of the welfare system. Don't get mad at my observation; Get mad at your life choices.
My life choices? I'm a lawyer; I'm doing just fine. Try backing up your assertions with facts and statistics.
t-- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:06:50 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a known fact that the welfare system is a failure. (and also that single mothers are a huge percentage of the beneficiaries). I wasn't making any unheard of claims.
Also, I was speaking in generalities. I wasn't throwing personal attacks at you. I don't know you and you don't know me. Glad your doing fine as a lawyer. Just wondering, what kind of lawyer are you?
In BC, welfare is $210/month if you are by yourself. They only allow you to be on welfare for 6 months - 1 year before kicking you out because you should be able to get a job. You have to fill out a sheet of a minimum of 5 or 10 employers PER DAY you applied to (can't remember the exact number) and they WILL call those employers to see if you really did apply. Might be embarrassing to some people for their potential bosses and such to find this out... Clearly OP doesn't know what they're on about.
One of my friends a few years back was on welfare, she ran away from home and was in a shelter and they helped her apply for it. We used to hang out all the time cuz they made her leave during the day to do productive things even though no one did and that's when we'd talk about this stuff.
You're exactly right. I'm a lawyer (I'm BC too) and I've worked with people in the 'system'. Anyone who says they have it easy has no idea what they're talking about.
Yes, because the only people on welfare are promiscuous women.
t-- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:22:13 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its about making a bad decision after another ending up on welfare.
Bolloux ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Democracies are a loophole. Don't vote for the party who will run the country in the most responsible way, just vote your hand into someone else's pocket by picking the one that will give you money someone else had to earn instead.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 12:35:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The down votes from the communists of the world begin to flood in.
t-- ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:02:33 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You probably shouldn't have said anything cuz the commies are everywhere and they bring gifts of down votes to all.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:18 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Communism = Everyone is fucked.
Capitalism = Your fucked if you don't work.
America today = If you work hard then you pay more taxes so freeloaders can have stuff.
The kind commies are merely sharing what they have (Downvotes) because everyone has to follow their rules and share the load. How considerate.
Capitalism equals your fucked unless your rich. Fixed that for you. Some of the hardest working people in this country barely skate by. You sheep.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:54:43 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
First off I'm not a sheep. Those hard workers work with their muscles not their minds. Sure you could claim they simply can't work with their minds because they are stupid but you aren't born stupid.
If they had studied instead of playing or watching tv they could have easily achieved good grades and gotten rich.
I believe taxes in all countries should be put towards education above all else. Third world countries are poor because people aren't educated. That needs to be fixed obviously but why should other people pay for Internet or classrooms? I personally do donate to charities focused on education but I hate when governments try to raise my taxes and force me to pay.
I'm confused so you want taxes to go towards education, but you don't want taxes to go up. Even though student populations are increasing, and new technology is available that will aide the students in learning. Also with your point that all you have to do to be rich is become educated let's look at teachers who have a master's degree, and are lucky to make 40000 a year. Now I know your going to bring up only working 9 months a year, but even if they worked the whole year that is only 52000 before taxes that isn't rich. I have my master's in occupational therapy and I bring home more than teachers, but I'm not rich. If you go to a college campus and poll the entire student population I bet no more than 10 percent earn over 150000 as a family. A majority of college students are middle class or below.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:24 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Occupational therapy. Seriously. Minor in gender studies and interpretative dance?
I think you'd if everyone stopped funding wars we wouldn't have any need to spend trillions on tanks and guns. Money that could be focused on education.
No majored in biology and minored in psychology. Congress will never agree to drop funding to military especially right now with Isis threats. Are you going to also cut salary for police, firefighters, social workers, and all other government employees, or is that going to come from some other magical place too.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:57:56 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But if the world unites and stops fighting each other (due to the stubbornness of politicians with stupid ideas and restrictions) wouldn't need to spend all that money on military expenses.
Haha taxes are what cause the war. How old are you.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:30 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No what causes wars is the general unhappiness about the way the country is being run or by retarded politicians who are trying to appeal to the uneducated.
My last comment was suppose to say do not cause wars. The reason we go to war is either A. we are attacked which hasn't really happened since Pearl Harbor ( unless you include 9/11 which wasn't a country attacking us) or B. Religious or human rights that those people request our help. I want to focus on religion because I feel like it is the greatest polarizing aspect of humans. If there was some way you could convert the entire world to atheism than you might have a shot at world peace, but that's not going to happen. You also have to think what would you do if an enemy of our country began developing nukes would you allow it to save tax money, or use our military too possibly avoid being nuked.
Worked a place with a BS decimal hours system but they didn't divide it properly. I realized the parts of an hour didn't match up--if you were late 15 minutes they would dock you 3/10 of an hour. If you said you worked 45 minutes, though, you got credit for 8/10 of an hour. So I was never late, I just was present for a shorter period of time. Fuck you, pay me my six minutes worth!
Endro22 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:51:17 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I worked at a place with a similar time clock. The old timers had it down to a science.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:33:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most everyone in the US is eligible for some credit union. Many credit unions are geography based, so if you live in their service area, you are eligible.
You mean like that guy in the Old Testament that spent all of his time murdering innocent people? Remember that one time when he flooded the whole earth and killed every man, woman, child, animal and plant just because he got his feelings hurt?
If you're in the UK and want to buy an airsoft gun without the bright colouring or transparent parts but don't have a UKARA license then go to an airsoft site that sells them and play a game there, should be good enough for them. There's also private gun sales, pretty sure they're a bypass for a UKARA license too
If somethig is buy one get one free (at a place where the employees don't care that much/aren't very attentative) you can get two of the BOGOF item and another item, then pull out cash and say "oh shit I don't have enough for all this, can I only get one of the [whatever is BOGOF]", they'll void one item and you'll get the other for free.
l3chner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:43 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think I understand what he was saying. If it's buy one get one free, attempt to buy two items, in order to get another two items free. Then, at checkout, after they put all 4 items into your bag, say "oh shit I can afford only one". Then you give them one of the two you were buying back. Therefore, you're buying one item, and should be getting one free. However, you're still taking three items, because the clerk wasn't paying attention.
TLDR: OP claims you can get free stuff by stealing.
It's not really a loophole, but really something that they can't get you on. This works mostly in the college setting, but if you have a paper due, let's say at 11:59, and you are obviously not going to make it in time. Send your teacher an email at some time well before 11:59 but on the same day, and tell them that you are trying to submit it, but your internet is having trouble completing the action, or just something technical like that, and that you will keep trying until it works. Then while you're "trying to submit it", just finish the paper. It gives you at most, another few hours. I have had to use this numerous times. One time I turned it in at 4:30 a.m. and the next morning, I just got an email from my teacher saying "Ok, no problem. It worked!". No late penalty, nothing. I know it's not the biggest lifesaver, but it definitely comes in handy when you really need it.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:46:43 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you take about a tablespoon natural crushed red pepper, and add about a teaspoon of water water with a pinch salt to it in a small bowl to microwave it for about 15-25 seconds on high, eating it will seriously boost metabolism, allowing for extremely fast breaking down of foods in the stomach, and very fast fat burning during excercise. It can even be used about 1-2 hours before sleep (Be sure after eating it before sleep, to not eat anything else, and also to drink plenty of water. If your urine is clear, that means you are drinking enough as the impurities as waste are diluted and won't show color.) The power of capsaicin, or the chemical that makes things spicy, is extremely effective for weight loss, if you can cope with some spiciness.
In this life you can play by your own set of rules.
Rizhko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:35:36 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You actually cant because everything atom moves according to rules => future can be predicted => fate exists => you actually dont make a choice , its already said what that "move"will be
If you named an Eevee "Rainer" to force it into a Vaporeon, don't worry if you get another - just get a trash Eevee and name him "Pyro", evolve him (force Flareon), and you'll now be able to force another Vaporeon eeveelution!
[deleted] ยท 3954 points ยท Posted at 13:49:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
If you're struggling getting access to a scientific paper because it's in some obscure journal you/your institution don't subscribe to, just e-mail the author that is listed for contact and ask for a copy. Scientists love nothing more than seeing people wanting to read their papers and will happily send you a free copy/pre-print draft. I've never run into an issue with this strategy and I can usually get the paper within 48 hrs.
Edit: Additional tip, ask them questions! Scientists can talk for hours about their research (as can I) and will answer every question you have. Remember, people love nothing more than talking about themselves (or their work).
RaVNzCRoFT ยท 544 points ยท Posted at 15:39:21 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's actually very clever.
foxo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:53:47 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well he is a scientist
frenchfrites ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Worst they can say is "no". or nothing at all
Yodaskool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:52:27 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, that's pretty good!
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 20:54:54 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
-10, fucking peasants don't respect the blab
RaVNzCRoFT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:34 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
buncha goddamn normies in here, sheesh
[deleted] ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 16:11:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
pls
AskMeAboutMyBandcamp ยท 347 points ยท Posted at 15:42:29 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Works for any discipline, really. Going through graduate studies now for journalism/English and it's making papers a breeze. The same goes for authors who write the obscure/small books that professors love to pick to prevent you from just downloading a PDF, I've gotten quotes directly from the author to me for essays, and that always impresses your profs.
[deleted] ยท 166 points ยท Posted at 16:17:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, asking the authors themselves for quotes! Now that's a trick I'll be using :)
Sack_Of_Motors ยท 217 points ยท Posted at 17:01:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No more of that "interpreting what the author meant" stuff. What did the author mean? Well the author meant ["quote from the author"]. Source: The author.
WTF_Fairy_II ยท 205 points ยท Posted at 18:01:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol, that's cute. English professors don't let silly things like direct quotes get in the way of figuring out what an author is saying. Look up Death of the Author - an influential essay on literary criticism that argues the authors interpretation of their own work is meaningless.
I personally think it's bullshit and is used as an excuse for English majors to find patterns that aren't there.
guattarist ยท 119 points ยท Posted at 19:07:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a dire misreading of Barthes. His point wasn't that the author's interpretation was meaningless, just that it shouldn't be privileged. The text should speak for itself.
elcapitaine ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 19:10:20 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which is a very valid argument. Otherwise we'd have to concede to George Lucas that Han didn't shoot first
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:48:04 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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starlitepony ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:20:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But the problem is here, you're effectively saying that you as the reader can interpret whether a change was due to the author's interpretation or not.
guattarist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:56:46 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The first and second editions are separate works. That is also how the special editions should be read as well. The idea of a universalizing canon is a marketing gimmick. Again, the text should speak for itself.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:03:30 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Proditus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:44 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It would be poorly written, sure, but it wouldn't be the first time a literary inconsistency has occurred. Authors make mistakes, or sometimes they release incomplete sets of information that they want to retcon. In many cases, it does become necessary to treat works that seem connected as separate entities.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:18 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you thereby implying that Han Solo in fact didn't shoot first? Because that obviously means you're wrong about everything.
farcedsed ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:10:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you. So many people misconstrue what they were saying, or they don't understand it in the first place.
WTF_Fairy_II ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:22:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You are correct, but this isn't how it is taught or applied to students. I had three consecutive English teachers that simply used this as an excuse to ram-rod absurd analysis down our throats.
Sometimes the curtains are just blue Mrs. Polly.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:43:35 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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fishred ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:38:10 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of the things that makes literature interesting is that, like any other form of communication, there can be some signal loss between what one means to say and what one actually says. (There can be an even bigger gap between what one means to communicate and what one actually communicates, since communication necessarily involves some processing by the non-speaking party.)
I assume just about everyone has had the experience of the argument in which one person says something, the other responds and the first says "that's not what I meant!" We've probably all had the experience of being both parties in this argument. The thing is, the first speaker may well be right in the sense that they know what they meant to say. But the second speaker can also be right in that what that person said also means something other than what they meant to say.
One of the things I love about literature is that there are so many potential readers to find meaning other than/in addition to what one meant to say. As a writer, I know what I mean when I write, but I don't have real control over what the text means. As a reader, I can make assumptions and arguments as to what the text means, but can't always know for sure what the author meant. I find both of those questions--and the gap between those questions--potentially interesting,
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:44:51 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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fishred ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:05:27 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whoa! Thank you!
FuzzyCuddlyBunny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:00 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If it helps, this video is a pretty brief (1 minute) summary by John Green.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:29:21 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We should contact him and get a quote from him to settle this.
Omvega ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 19:09:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ha, thankfully the trend of "what did the author really mean? " is falling out of fashion (in academia, anyway) in favor of "what does the reader take away from this?".
nicholt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:34 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like that.
Omvega ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:10 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me too! It makes my job more fun and less researching exactly HOW depressed Emily Dickinson was.
EsQuiteMexican ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:52:47 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As an author, I think death of the author is the most pretentious bullshit ever to be made up.
Omvega ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:10:35 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really? I'm sorry to hear that. I like to think that once a work is written, it's out of the author's hands in terms of literary interpretation.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 20:03:34 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Iyagovos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:01:08 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
An eloquent response.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:31:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you write a paper defending that and bring this academia drivel down to earth?
EsQuiteMexican ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:11 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can, I haven't, I will someday when I'm published, the TL;DR is: I made it, so it's mine, and I decide what it means. Go ahead and make your cutesy little headcanons and fanfics and whatever; I'll even go so far as to provide licenses to sell derivative work if I like it enough. But if I say it's not like that, then IT'S NOT LIKE THAT. You don't tell car makers what the pieces of their cars do, so I don't see why artists don't get the same respect.
Iyagovos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:00:33 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because art is interpreted. If I read a poem, and I feel sad, it's because I think it's a sad poem. You saying "No it's a happy poem" changes literally nothing.
AzureBlu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:12:55 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Something something "I am the Walrus"
guntermench43 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:09:59 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's bullshit so they can ask why Shakespeare put blue curtains in a scene for four years in high school.
PurpEL ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:19:05 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Happens in art too. Maybe the artist just wanted to see a blue duck
EsQuiteMexican ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Writing is art.
PurpEL ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 22:31:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
sure, plumbing is art sometimes too
Muuviestar ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:59:28 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is bullshit. Writers know what they're writing. THATS THE POINT!
TinyBoobsFlatAss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:07 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think you understood the essay
WTF_Fairy_II ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:52 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually did understand it. It's more nuanced than how I presented it, but my real complaint is how it's used by teachers (to be fair most of mine sucked) to justify any and every interpretation.
ultra-nihilist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Phallic symbols everywhere.
Oshojabe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:32:59 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Pierre Menard, Author of the Quixote" is a great short story that illustrates the Death of the Author concept pretty well.
Dr-NguyenVanPhuoc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:03 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
how would you cite it? you have to add a source that everyone who reads your paper can look into it and check if it's legit. just writing "the author told me face to face" seems shady as you can't prove he actually said that without recording the conversation and publishing the tape.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:25:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can cite interviews...
Dr-NguyenVanPhuoc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
how?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:01:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.easybib.com/guides/citation-guides/apa-format/how-to-cite-a-interview-apa/
Dr-NguyenVanPhuoc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:15 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"I like to suck dick" (/u/AmericanSocialist, personal communication, 7/23/2016). well, yeah. i was advised by every teacher to never use anything that can't be looked up. makes sense because nobody can tell whether i write bullshit or not. personal interviews shouldn't be included in papers
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:16:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uhh, I mean...most academics do cite interviews for their books and papers. If you've ever read a book on Kissinger for example, like half the citations are personal interviews with him or people who worked with him.
You can't "look up" an interview, but you can cross-reference it with the interviewee...
Dr-NguyenVanPhuoc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:44 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
alright, i think it depends on the field then. i've never seen papers citing interviews in any engineering field
notjawn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:04:11 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're going to be very successful one day.
AskMeAboutMyBandcamp ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:51:34 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks! I figure if I want to be a journalist I'd better get my interviewing and research skills up to scratch!
notjawn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:58:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Best of luck I'm a communication professor and I used to teach video news editing we'd be so excited when we had a student like you who goes the extra mile and produces quality work. No doubt your profs brag about you to colleagues and friends.
genmusetic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:33 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hope it works better than asking Kurt Vonnegut probably NSFW language
Asimovs_Clarion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:18 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Doesn't work for programmers. They just tell you to go away and read some manuals then boot you out of IRC
Azsendi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's your bandcamp?
AskMeAboutMyBandcamp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:02 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://atarinoculture.bandcamp.com/album/half-baked-demo
It's where I post my sad alternative rock music that I make! :p
[deleted] ยท 93 points ยท Posted at 16:24:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read askreddit questions like this all the time regarding loopholes, and this is the only one that I've seen that's ever going to be extremely helpful for me. Seriously, thank you for this. You've saved future me a shit ton of time doing research for papers that I'll have to do in September.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:29:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, I'm glad it helps! This has saved my ass on numerous occasions as well as introduced me to people in the field I may have never gotten in contact otherwise.
ShacosLeftNut ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:59:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gold him again bro
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:03 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Would love to. I quite literally have no credit card right now though and my PayPal is locked out for a number of very shitty reasons.
ShacosLeftNut ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:47:04 on July 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know that reason bro. Paypal locked me outta my $500 for half a year before I got those assets again, which were then spent on some drugs of course.
tiedyechicken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:53 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A website you may want to remember is scihub.io. Saved my ass several times a day.
Shymain ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 15:48:18 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, this is super useful to me! So many times I've been looking at scientific crap and I want to check out the actual study but it's always behind a paywall! Thanks for letting me know about this!
replikantFPV ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:58:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
R.I.P. Cofounder of Reddit Aaron Schwartz. He was prosecuted by some dumb cunt for trying to free this information that goes behind a paywall by private companies making millions off of other scientists and students work. He was busted stealing documents from an MIT server that should not have been behind a paywall anyways, and ended up committing suicide in the end.
You should watch the documentary The Internets Own Boy, it's about Aaron's case and the final outcome.
I know this is non-sequitur, but we're talking about paywalls for data that should be free anyways, and not the profit of companies like JSTOR
Lukedriftwood ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:33:39 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually this website is even faster than emailing the author: http://sci-hub.cc/
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:00:43 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's also illegal. No way I want my published work to be associated with illegally gotten papers or my institution to know I use the site. There's also rumors that it's kinda shady...
TribeWars ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:59:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Journals making profit off publicly funded research should be illegal.
EsQuiteMexican ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:55:02 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm all for piracy under justified circumstances, but if there's a legal way to get the thing for free, the illegal way is unjustifiable.
Dr-NguyenVanPhuoc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
sometimes the legal way is so ridiculously time-consuming, making the effort unbearable, that you have to take the illegal route
replikantFPV ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:34 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But when the legal way could or should be justifiably illegal, Then fuck going the legal route. These companies would be making money off of work that took you as a student or professional countless hours and years of education and work and hundreds of thousands of school tuition money, and you think that's okay? I think you're missing the point.
Dups_47 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:47:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do you feel about using SciHub?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:52:11 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's dishonest regardless of how much you hate the publishing industry. There are legitimate ways to acquire the research paper...
panameboss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:38:19 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But if I've gotta read hundreds of journal articles that I don't have institutional access to, there's no way I'm going to waste time emailing individual authors when I could just access the papers in seconds on Sci-Hub.
Unheroic_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:03:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Noted down for the next time when I have a science assignment! Thanks, dude!
Illier1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:17:18 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Turns out asking nicely works :o
ElDuderino2112 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:23:42 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This works for a lot of academic fields I imagine. Worked for me studying philosophy.
JoeBethersonton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also if you want to access a paper but you're not part of an institution with access, your local public library may subscribe. I'm a few years out of grad school and work for a nonprofit but like to stay up to date with best practices for program evaluation and can get a lot of articles through my county's library system.
rumi4167 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:59:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
W. O. W. Just made my research project a lot simpler. I'm not at the university, so I don't have access to the subscribed obscure journals.
james___uk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:13:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LOL some lady asked me how to do the technical 3D graphics thing I do and I wrote her a whole document on the fly
ZenGuruji ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:06 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, thanks for this tip. Probably going to need to use it at some point for my dissertation.
Raudskeggr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:42 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Social engineering for good and not evil! This is good to see
latrans8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:40:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uh.... Inter-library loan?
HugoTap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just to stress this, it is in every advantage to scientists to have their paper freely accessed! Hiding behind a paywall prevents that from happening.
We would love to show off our work to anyone.
Dr-NguyenVanPhuoc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
so i assume you're a scientist/researcher too. if you have your papers published, the publisher wants to make a buck by selling access to said papers. does the contract include exclusive rights meaning you aren't allowed to publish your stuff somewhere else?
HugoTap ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:00:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, which is why you can't double-dip on, say, data from one paper and put it in another without referencing the original paper.
Dr-NguyenVanPhuoc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
do i assume correctly that giving a copy of your paper to anyone who asks, just like OP presented as a loophole, would be a violation of that publishing deal thus his advise would be incitement of breaking a contract?
KrunkWantPuppetPals ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:08:30 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've never seen a publishing agreement that doesn't reserve the authors right to use their work for personal use, which includes distributing it on an individual basis. Maybe that's field specific? (I'm in ecology)
HugoTap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:09 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This I'm not entirely sure. I think technically this might be true, but if it is it's not something that is enforced.
Keep in mind, some of us don't even have access to the actual paper (maybe the final draft before sending out to the editors in some cases).
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:42 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on the field actually. A lot of papers (substantial minority) in economics have been previously posted online as 'work in progress' aka working paper. Those previous versions are usually almost identical to the work that is published.
22fortox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:29 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not just limited to science, it works for pretty much anything like mathematics, philosophy, English etc.
KOBSTER- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:28 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I will definitely be using this trick when I run into a problem like this.
FlandreHon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:31 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
reddit.com/r/scholar
sjhock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:07 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Soooo... what'cha researchin'?
TheBoiledHam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for this. I'm glad this is currently the top comment. Its about bettering yourself while making people feel good and engaging others. I imagine a lot of people are going to say how to trick people and promote theft. This is just good honest loopholing here and I commend you.
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ultrab0ii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:09:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This would have been so useful when I was doing lab reports... if I didn't start everything the night before lol
Lyn1987 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:42 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Im going back to school this semester, thanks for the advice!
IOnlyUpvoteSelfPosts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't work when your paper is due at 6am the next day
panameboss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:34:28 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's when Sci-Hub comes in.
ToxicAloha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've learned that if it is publicly funded research (state, county, federal), even if it's published in a journal, the authors have to give you a copy of the paper. Another reason why there is no hesitation if you ask directly.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:55 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Many journals also allow researchers to publish their papers on their own website - it's often work checking the corresponding author's page and seeing if they have the PDFs available if you don't feel like emailing someone.
Jamabope ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Couple years ago for a group project in college we had to write what was virtually an accident report for a lighting tower that collapsed and killed a guy about 30 years ago. So usual group project etiquette, im the one doing most of the work, i try to give the other guys stuff to do but we have to run with virtually all my own research and my entire powerpoint until litterally the DAY we need to do our presentation and the laziest guy in the group bursts in with the actual fucking accident report from the engineering firm in America !
He couldent find enough info online so he emailed the company direct and got a reply, they happily sent the whole report to some random kid in the UK. I was totally blown away - i never looked at him the same after that because it honestly wasnt even something that had crossed my mind. So yeah, after that 4 of us sat around 1 computer first thing in the morning and within about 2 hours created the best, most accurate presentation out of the entire class. All thanks to the laziest guy in our group.
YesIAmOldEnough1995 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:47 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And if they say no then I definitely wouldn't recommend looking up sci-hub on Facebook
mothstuckinabath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:21 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is extremely cool. Is it easy to find their email addresses?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:17:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, most journals require there to be a corresponding author whose email or contact information is displayed.
Moist_When_It_Counts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:11 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same trick works for getting into graduate school. See a paper about a field you would like to get into? Chat up the PI.
gotlactose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:03 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm, this works. I got the primary author to get nostalgic on me because I explained my backstory and he said it sounded like him when he was in grad school.
rausegeorgia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:11:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or use #canihazpdf on Twitter with the title of the paper you want.
__worldpeace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:33 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, I wish I would have thought about this in grad school. If I ever came across an article that I really needed for a research paper that I didn't have access to (which was really rare thankfully), I would ask for an interlibrary loan via my school's library. It would always take fucking forever for them to get it for me.
EspressoNips ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:42 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck. I just finished all my science courses for my degree.
FoxTwo- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"what is genius if undiscovered?"
Wetmelon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't believe I never thought of this
DarwinDanger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do this all the time.
Just last week I emailed a professor in Brazil as I could not get a copy to his paper, he responded within 24h with his personal proofs.
capncaveman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:04 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. Several good friends are scientists and nothing tickles them more than acknowledgment.
ShinyScope ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for the tip, this will definitely come in handy in the future!
roshielle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stealing this tip. As a graduate student, I run into this often.
RedMikeYawn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:59 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On the one hand, great tip. On the other, you godless socialist!
chopstyks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What have you been working on recently? Are you ready to publish? I'd love to see your paper in whatever state it's currently in.
yourzero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:56:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What kind of research do you do?
nitrac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:29 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Username checks-out
classic_douche ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:57:40 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Outstanding tip, thanks for sharing that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:58 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What area of research do you work in?
IAmAnIceCreamFiend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:44 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow thanks. I'm about to go into my final year of Bio medicine. I can't believe I have never thought of this. This will definitely come in handy for my dissertation.
MYC0B0T ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:54 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FUCKING THANK YOU
EvisGamer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:57 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even easier, just search for the university + professor's name. You'll find their research page, and very often they will provide a direct link to the pdf.
clever_kitty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:09 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. I worked for a CRO for a while and would do this all the time for the different directors.
SenileNazi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:04 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I beg to differ.
Rudolf Wernicke, mad scientist, checking in.
I can't discuss my work because the Murkoff Corporation will have me killed if I do.
PBRidesAgain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:25 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have done this! Can confirm it works
Schnauzerofdoom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:29 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend got access to a paper that (according to the website) you had to pay 3000 dollars to get access by doing this. We're in high school.
YeimzHetfield ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:02 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What have you been researching as of late?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:52 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To add to this, Sci-Hub has an automated paper fetching servers which is much faster, though it doesn't work on every paper.
jazir5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:28:38 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or just use sci-hub.cc
trevorlolo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:35:26 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking hell, why do I see this after I graduated one year ago? I'm so sad now.....
imaqtristana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:00:20 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can also check the authors website, they usually have a pdf download of the paper
dontrobyourself ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:12:58 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've also had a friend to this for an obscure accounting textbook she needed and was unavailable. She emailed the author and he sent her the book and his phone number for her to ask him questions if she had any.
HappyCycling_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:33 on July 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's the most frustrating thing! Definitely will try.
elephuntus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:07 on July 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck, I really wish I had thought of this when I was in uni.
fayetteville_head ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:56:45 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Typical socialist wanting everyone to flourish...
CMOS222 ยท 792 points ยท Posted at 18:02:47 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I don't know if I would call this a loophole and I don't think it applies anymore, but I thought it made a great story.
Back in the 80s there was a human rights dissident who got kicked out of Bulgaria and got asylum in the United States. He hated Soviet-style communism, so he figured out his own private way to get back at them. Once a month, he would write a letter to a prominent Soviet dissident (Sakharov, etc.) but before he mailed it, he would get it insured at the post office against it being opened. The USSR mail service, naturally, would intercept it and open it to read the contents, but because they opened it, they would have to pay the insurance ($400). If they didn't, they would get thrown out of the International Postal Union, and the IPU would allow this guy to do this, as long as he didn't overdo it.
So once a month, he would mail off his letter, and a few weeks later, receive a check courtesy of the government of the USSR, for $400. I thought this was ingenious.
EDIT: I got curious about it, called Canada Post (in a faked Russian accent :) ) and asked them about it, very carefully, without disclosing my real intentions. Very nice, helpful lady from Canada Post head office told me that the maximum they could insure a letter for was the actual value of the letter itself, i.e., the paper. SOL, but it was fun to look into it. Read a lot about human rights activists in Czechoslovakia. Still feel bad about misleading the nice lady at Canada Post
madmars ยท 164 points ยท Posted at 18:44:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that's goddamn amazing
chronicwisdom ยท 140 points ยท Posted at 21:04:42 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That man helped insure the collapse of the Soviet Union single-handedly.
old_gold_mountain ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 22:58:31 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ensure
lrrlrr ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 23:08:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Both, really
chronicwisdom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:01:32 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, always fuck that up. I always think of ensure as that brand of protein drinks for old people.
Raggon ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:09:20 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it was a clever pun...
VSarachnos ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:08:20 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whoosh
SIacktivist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:27:34 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hah
Scripter17 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:58:44 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FUCK YEAH!
CMOS222 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:48 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My biggest take from it was that if you are smart, you can do something to change the world, even if you are only one person.
But if you are REALLY smart, you can figure out a way to do it and make money as well. :)
ultra-nihilist ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 22:09:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Until they sent him a check covered in polonium dust.
thaswhaimtalkinbout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:59:31 on July 26, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
or ricin.
Mildly-disturbing ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 02:26:34 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
Spartan1997 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:02:38 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Polonium is used for assassinations, cesium is used to give people cancer, and plutonium is used to kill everyone.
Onmytablet2 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:43:18 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone have Edward Snowden's mailing address? I could really use an extra $400 a month.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:01:17 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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Ballongo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:35:44 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The truth was in the way of a good story.
CMOS222 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:24:54 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, this was back around 1984.
sneaky_elephant ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:23:08 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you know the dissident's name by any chance?
CMOS222 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:23:33 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it was something Makarov, but I don't remember. It was around 1984.
weezermc78 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:37:09 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you still do this?
I'm asking for a friend who is broke
kidkrush ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:25:24 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All right. Time to spam North Korea. I'm going to be rich!
Exciter79 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:03:55 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did he have to pay to have the correspondence insured?
CMOS222 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:22:52 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, the USSR government or postal service was required to, as the letter was ensured against it being opened before it was delivered to the recipient.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:26:27 on July 30, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Send an empty parcel an pay for insurance
godless-life ยท 1265 points ยท Posted at 08:00:44 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Use a VPN with server locations in 'poor' countries when buying airline tickets.
I managed to buy flights with Lufthansa from Frankfurt, Germany to Bangkok, Thailand at 300 EUR directly from the airline through my VPN in Argentina. From Germany where I reside the exact same connection was 570 EUR, from Russia 490 EUR, Romania 440 EUR and Indonesia over 1000 EUR (which I don't really understand).
Lufthansa only asks for nationality, passport number and credit card information during the process, all of which I enter truthfully, so they can't blame me for trying to cheat them.
Edit: Use your browsers private / incognito mode when shopping for tickets, otherwise they might read your cookies and it won't work.
Edit 2: Also works for other services and digital subscriptions (Steam, Adobe Creative Cloud).
Uww ยท 549 points ยท Posted at 11:18:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just a warning: Steam are known for banning people who do this
Li0nhead ยท 2681 points ยท Posted at 13:11:37 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Further warning: if you are trying to book a flight on Steam you may be on the wrong site.
Edit: Thanks for the Gold random Redditor.
suplexcomplex ยท 551 points ยท Posted at 13:48:28 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Selling tickets to Madrid for 5 skins
Dracodrache ยท 343 points ยท Posted at 15:16:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So i found this new flight...
TribeWars ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 20:00:40 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The memes are out of control
PM_ME_UR_YASUO_ART ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:40:35 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're lotto control!
3dank5maymay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:09:37 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You mean straight outta control?
razor5cl ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 16:19:08 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
%? . . . . . . BUMPING
oodsigma8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:40:05 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
RIP Phantoml0rd
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:07:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
2meta2fast
Etherfast ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:22:36 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/globaloffensive is leaking :)
UppityScapegoat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:59:19 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can I buy it if I'm a child? I wont be using real money
williamyixin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:05:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
% Joris?
Pm_me_maymes ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:27:59 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
NO LOWBALL YOU GO FIRST 45% BLUE CASE HARDENED 20% OVERPAY
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:00:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Would you do 3 hats and a sticker?
suplexcomplex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:35:44 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pure skins only, no overpay.
joshi38 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:06 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a trading card that's apparently worth 5 cents. 7 if I'm feeling cheeky. What will that get me?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:17 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lowball = -rep + block
ScrotumPotion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:15 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hey its me ur pilot
derpherp128 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:29 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey it's me ur captain
I3eastmode ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:51:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've only got 4 skins
Deadwires ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:30:36 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hey its me ur pilot.
ResidentKappa ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:40:39 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hey it's me ur brother
reammachine ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 17:19:32 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They have great sales on summer flights. Sometimes I'll try to buy a ticket, and realize that I already bought it last year.
TheAwesomeMort ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:09:29 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I paid for an Early-Access flight, but I don't think the airplane is assembled the right way... Aren't airplanes supposed to have TWO wings?
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:31:34 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hey its me ur pilot
MechaDesu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:58:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does it work for hats though?
AmBozz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:29 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
fly fast men ))
estXcrew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:57:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just wanted an international flight with a steam engined plane is that too much to ask
Old_Fat_White_Guy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:03:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That damn airhorn when they fly over is too loud!
JDogg_of_RS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:46:33 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Instructions unclear; flying virtual airplane
AlexLuis ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:50:05 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Instructions unclear: dick stuck in Steam pipe.
Reaper628 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:55:37 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds weird but... LUBE ME UP
Wilreadit ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:30:52 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, the old Steam-a-roo
GiveMeFreeKarmaPl0x ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hold my airline tickets, I'm going in.
godless-life ยท 112 points ยท Posted at 11:27:05 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, but if you gift steam games from a throwaway account to your main account, they will leave your main alone.
And since I can add unlimited throwaway email accounts to my paypal, they can't block that way either (previously they'd block credit cards, so it was a bit more tricky to circumvent with virtual cards).
acridboomstick ยท 185 points ยท Posted at 12:22:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for this information.
~ Gabe Newell
leSpectre ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:50:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/u/godless-life is an ass and we don't be working with him anymore.
~ Gabe Newell
BlueberryFunk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:25:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought was illegal to store credit card data? So, how could they block credit cards?
Tab371 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:23:30 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you help me set up a virtual card? Would like one to purchase a seedbox service.
Thanks
godless-life ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:03:34 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The one I used back then seems no longer available, but https://spectrocard.com/ was recommended by a friend - simply buy a PaySafe card in any supermarket, fuel station or whatever, pay cash and use it to fund your credit card. Comes with a fee of course, but that's the price you pay for anonymity...
Some seedbox services accept payment through Bitcoin or Paygarden (http://www.paygarden.com/) as well (you can fund the account with gift cards from all major retailers, see http://www.paygarden.com/brands for the list).
I'm not using a Seedbox myself, so I can't recommend one - but maybe /r/seedboxes has something for you.
Tab371 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:26:20 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, I couldn't have gotten a better reply. You get a perfect 5/7 from me ;)
godless-life ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:15:28 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Highest rating ever! Yay!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:43:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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audscias ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:56:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or you can simply summon him... his username is GabeNewellBellevue
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:13:15 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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audscias ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:23:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Emmh yeah. He is a busy guy I guess anyway. Whatever... Hi Gabe! This guy is scamming steam.
Stevey854 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:28:05 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is a scam? Games don't have an import tax do they?
audscias ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:48:29 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He is using dubious ways to pay less than he should. About your question, you can't "import" digital goods, but you pay taxes on them just like you do on everything. In this case he is not scamming Steam but the IRS.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_of_digital_goods
godless-life ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:41:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The IRS? I'm not in the US, why would I give a fuck about the IRS? Sometimes I even buy through the US when that game happens to be cheapest there.
audscias ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:43 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't you pay taxes in your country for the things you buy, you dense individue? It's the IRS if you live in the US, or whatever government organization you pay taxes to in your country.
An_Insane_Stork ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:23:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
bump
tokyorockz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:05 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But they can ban both accounts if they find out one is an alt.
godless-life ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:07 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, but they can't prove it. New email, fake name, IP from a faraway place... They might have strong suspicions, but that's not enough.
Azuvector ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:55 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They'll probably have some suspicions when you have a few gifted games from a variety of throwaways.
godless-life ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:07:28 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have 72 gifted games in my account and never purchased one with my main, and using the method for over 6 years now. I'd say it works.
5a_ ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 12:46:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gaben will smite thee from on high
PerfectTumbleweed ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:39:29 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Since when has Steam been known for banning people with VPNs?
They're pretty commonly known not to give a sh!t at all.
'+ you can't get a VAC ban from using a VPN..., they won't disable your account.
There is no negative outcome really. Everyone just claims Steam will ban.
Unless things have changed in like the past 2 months?
Auzymundius ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:51:07 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're not banning you for a VPN. They're banning you for buying games outside of your region for a lesser price.
tdug ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:33:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then maybe companies shouldn't price digital goods differently based on the region, Adobe.
Auzymundius ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:54:59 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then people from poorer countries just wouldn't buy games at all. $60 is too much for some countries.
diablofreak ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 17:53:33 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then maybe get another job instead of playing games. Sorry
ElMenduko ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:35:49 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh so I should tell inflation to freeze for a few months at least until Steam's next big sale. Yeah. That will stop my money from being worth less in dollars as time passes
Auzymundius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:37 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about South American countries where the average wage is much lower?
bienvenueareddit ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:19 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Many companies pay lesser wages to workers who live in poorer countries, even those who do equivalent skilled labor. Why shouldn't the common Westerner be able to exploit these economic differences in the same way?
ElMenduko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:55 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because you agreed to Steam's terms and conditions, probably without reading it
And your example is not something good either
OMG_NoReally ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:11:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not to mention that if a game is region blocked, you will need a VPN to play the game every time you want to. Steam will block the crap out of that if you try to play with your current location.
notjawn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:05 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was about to say this is kind of bad as the Vegas Vacation "tip." They're gonna be on to you and then blacklist you certainly form their airline if not get you on a government no-fly list.
PMyouMooningME ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What exactly is steam? Is it a download website for games?
Uww ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:29:43 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is an application where you can buy digital games
PMyouMooningME ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:45 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you!
SenileNazi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:25 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I put myself in Canada.
When you take inflation into account, everything is just slightly cheaper there.
Dcm210 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:08 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What other dirty tricks does steam do?
giveitago ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 12:23:54 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can we stop using are for companies? It sounds stupid and a company is a singular legal entity so it doesn't make sense.
pm_me_ur_wet_pants ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:42:05 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You must be American.
giveitago ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:01:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not fat!
pm_me_ur_wet_pants ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:04:17 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In American English groups are often referred to in the singular, for example "the team is doing well" as opposed to "the team are doing well".
giveitago ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:10:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are always, except in formal English with companies. I think we should do away with the expectation of using the plural for companies.
james___uk ยท 97 points ยท Posted at 17:24:03 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Other cheap flight tips from my own experience:
Use google flights, I've used a bunch of these cheap flight sites and IMO nothing is as good (except maybe Kayak). It can give you cheaper flying tips and prices by date so you can pick the cheapest day to arrive/leave (when you click on the date box)
Often arriving/leaving on tuesday/wednesday/thursday is cheapest but using the date tool google flights can show something totally different. Showing prices by date is a mandatory check in my book
Prices are lowest when you search on wednesdays or thursdays but I have doubts that time of day matters as some have said.
When your leaving date is either around 2 weeks or 6 weeks away is usually when it's cheapest
Air fare prices make no sense, remember this ๐
It's worth checking out the map view on google flights, you might wanna go to a certain city in a country but find it's wayyy cheaper to fly to a nearby city instead. This is more for changing your plans on the fly, e.g. Munich looks like fun to go to, but Salzburg in nearby Austria is cheaper (I believe...from the UK...)
Note on airmiles:
BONUS, hotels:
7LeagueBoots ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:07:29 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Regarding Google Flights specifically, I've found that they don't always have accurate information and will claim a lower price than the ticket actually costs and sometimes list flights for dates that the airline they list doesn't actually have a flight.
I live in Asia right now and have had this issue with Google Flights a bunch of times over the last two and a half years.
james___uk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:58 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, I didn't know that :/ I wonder if Kayak is more accurate
nickpiscool ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:08:10 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
โ๏ธ
subkulcha ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:19:40 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Used map view. Discovered us here in Melbourne are pretty far from the rest of the world haha
james___uk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:53:42 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh dear, sorry to hear you're in a tricky place for cheap travel! XD
R1fl3Princ355 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:01 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A note of caution on googling hotels: For some reason Google often likes to show a date 2 weeks out from the current date and offers a rate and booking options. 9 times out of 10 the bookings are non-refundable. Before you book or call the hotel arguing that Google shows a cheaper rate than the hotel quotes DOUBLE CHECK YOUR DATES!
Source: Am a Front Desk Manager who is tired of arguing about deceitful 3rd party practices.
james___uk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:49:25 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for the heads up, will remember this
joeltb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:16 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's why you use a VISA/MC gift card when reserving non-refundable hotel rooms. That way if you have o cancel last min, no biggie. :)
EmergencyPizza ยท 169 points ยท Posted at 09:08:59 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Related: If you're shopping for airline tickets and decide to come back and look again later, clear your cookies. This isn't a loophole, just a way to avoid getting screwed over by sites like Kayak that show higher prices if you've done the same search multiple times.
abitNexus ยท 101 points ยท Posted at 11:19:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I believe this was proven false. There was some challenge offering some money to anyone who could prove that cookies (and previous visits to a travel site) increased price on following visit(s). No one managed to do it. May have been on reddit actually.
Gonzobot ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 12:40:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a standing million dollar reward for any psychic that can prove their abilities, but everybody still gives poor psychics a hundred bucks a pop for deliberately unproven "insight". People are idiots.
3423553453 ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 13:41:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except clearing your cookies is a harmless precaution that takes 2 seconds.
Even if nobody can prove it now, it's something that can happen, unlike reading minds.
BlindfoldedNinja ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 17:05:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Except it did, it was just 'Mind Reading' was a complicated process of picking up physical/verbal/emotional ect. cues, directing conversation, applying environmental confusion , using speciously vague language and predicting statistical human characteristics.
I don't code so I don't know what you'd have to know, but I'm sure there could be a trick to it.
Edit: Jesus fucking christ you people are dumb. Psychics can't read your mind. Psychics have made well over a million dollars pretending to. You're basically denying Miss Cleo the TV psychic doesn't exist because taro cards are fake. A trick doesn't have to actually be magic to take your money. The person I'm arguing with wasn't even close to the stupidest person here.
3423553453 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:14:59 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wat
If you're saying mind reading is picking up on physical and verbal cues you're also admitting it's not mind reading.
BlindfoldedNinja ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 17:20:43 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You caught that did you? Now think about it.
3423553453 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:34:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Think about what, you're not making any sense.
You're saying "Mind reading" happens BUT it's not about reading minds. So what's your point ? Parent comments were about mind reading not being something that exists, you're not disproving it.
A trick to what ? Make a website show something different if a cookie is present ? Well that's what I said... yes there is.
BlindfoldedNinja ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:37 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can call it a misnomer if that helps you understand. Mind reading does not equal the actual reading of a mind, but it's still a trick, still exists, and up until the last century or so was quite an effective one for what it was designed for.
A trick to what ?
Creating a barrier between the evidence and the million dollars. I assume with a population of people who know exactly how cookies interact with proxies n' stuff it would have to be clever, but I don't know enough to postulate.
3423553453 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:59:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know what a misnomer is and again it means it's not what it claim it is. So you can't also say it actually "exists".
You done trolling already ?
BlindfoldedNinja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:14:31 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you for real? Do you actually feel like you are being trolled right now? Or are you just saying that?
3423553453 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:51:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If I had the funds I'd offer a one-million-dollar challenge like jref for anyone who can offer a theory on how can this conversation be construed as anything else than trolling.
BlindfoldedNinja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:55 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/u/blindfoldedninja was trying to explain to /u/3423553453 that mind reading being a pseudo-science and mind readers not being real are not the same thing. Which means tricks work when they trick people. This was explained very simply to you, and at no point did you ever get trolled. If you failed to understand this I can't help that.
3423553453 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
BlindfoldedNinja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well you got me. Took me forever to figure it out. Nicely done.
tulio2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:24:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i knew something like that would happen
soundslegitbro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah prove your psychic, collect cash, get abducted the next day and spend the rest of your life locked away in a government facility. I'm not a psychic but even I can see that one coming.
Gonzobot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:06:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or psychics are not and have never been more than straight up fraudsters
desirage ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:05:45 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually I've had it happen to me. I wanted to test this theory so I was using two different computers and multiple airline websites to book tickets to Mexico and I saw different prices for the same exact flights. The differences were up to $200 the more I checked.
mrdeadsniper ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:10:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was in a long distance relationship so bought the same round trip ticket many times. I have seen the same website list the same flight number for less just by opening incognito.
That was a couple of years ago tho. The real thing is booking in advance and being able to fly midweek.
abitNexus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:53:43 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You missed out on some gold!
MosquitoRevenge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:10:37 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
u/Marvinmega says: "Online advertising professional here. You need more time between first view and second view, also this is mostly used on charter and package deals. I work in Europe and that's how it works here. (Though it's used less and less)"
Amp3r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:47:09 on July 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I find this hard to believe. I didn't know about the prize and admittedly it could have been a coincidence, but:
I searched for flights on kayak one day, then went back and looked the next day on the same computer and found that they were more expensive. I tried to show my girlfriend the prices later that day on my tablet and found they were back to the original prices.
KasurCas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:21:55 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's happened to me a couple times but how do you prove it?
Bran_Solo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:54 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Source?
In the churning community this is widely regarded as true.
abitNexus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:52:05 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here you go.
Bran_Solo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:00 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm, thanks for linking. I tend to agree it's probably a myth, but I'm not sure I buy some dude on reddit making a limited time offer with a specific protocol he defines proves or disproves anything.
dmbrandon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Literally happened to me a few months ago. Went back down 20 seconds layer after i cleared.
MosquitoRevenge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:59 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Has happened to me. Checked in the morning saw low price, checked evening higher price, went incognito low price as morning again.
abitNexus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:53:14 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Could have gotten some gold!
MosquitoRevenge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:04:42 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's just that I didn't buy a normal airline fair but a vacation package on the airlines webpage. And it's not a major airline either but one that only flies during the summer in Europe.
MosquitoRevenge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:09:51 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
u/Marvinmega says: "Online advertising professional here. You need more time between first view and second view, also this is mostly used on charter and package deals. I work in Europe and that's how it works here. (Though it's used less and less)"
Norway_Master_Race ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:06:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Use incognito mode. It's even easier, and doesn't fuck with any settings on unrelated sites.
EmergencyPizza ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:13:21 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I keep forgetting that that has uses beyond porn.
curious_iguana ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:56:21 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also related: I use Expedia a lot. Sometimes just speculatively on a destination.
If you're logged in a search a trip, view hotels etc then leave it, they email you big discount offers.
b4b ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:33 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They can keep information server side
MosquitoRevenge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:10:43 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
u/Marvinmega says: "Online advertising professional here. You need more time between first view and second view, also this is mostly used on charter and package deals. I work in Europe and that's how it works here. (Though it's used less and less)"
Hullu2000 ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 09:19:03 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To add to this: VPNs often cost but TOR is free and settin up Tails in a VM isn't hard at all. Just request for an exit node in a poor country or keep reseting the connection until you get one.
godless-life ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 09:32:28 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, the only problem with TOR is that you're oftentimes using a private person's internet connection which can be slow as fuck, whereas a paid VPN provider invests into servers with good connectivity.
I'm paying 25 USD a year with ironsocket.com (got a voucher from /r/vpncoupons, regular price is 45 or so). Totally worth it.
ifrpin ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 12:30:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also the exit node can spy on what you do. Being an anonymity network just means that they can not see where in the network you connection comes from. If you do use your credit card to purchase something over Tor always make sure you are using https and check the certificate. Best way is to open the site in a normal browser then compare what they show for the encrypted connection and certificate.
CaptainBlackadder ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 13:39:59 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
nopointers ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:34:04 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and check the certificate
This part deserves to be in bold. All that https proves is that your connection is from your browser to somewhere the browser trusts. Unfortunately, shenanigans are getting real.
Especially if you're using a browser where you work or your school or someplace else where it's not your computer and not your network, that secure connection might be to somebody's proxy rather than the actual site.
ElMenduko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:43:41 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do you check it? I mean, what do I have to look for in the certificate's info?
nopointers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:31:26 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm assuming from your question that you do know how to get to the certificate info, and it goes without saying that if the browser tells you there's a certificate issue, there's something wrong. What you want to look at is the chain of trust on the certificate chain. Let's take the one for Reddit. It says:
*.reddit.com Issued by: DigiCert SHA2 Secure Server CA Expires: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 5:00:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Your browser will warn you if the certificate doesn't match the site you are on or if it is expired. That middle line tells you that Reddit got their certificate from a certificate authority (CA) called DigiCert. What you want to do is follow that chain all the way up to something called a root certificate. If you click on the certificate right above the Reddit certificate, you'll find something like:
DigiCert SHA2 Secure Server CA Intermediate certificate authority Expires: Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 4:00:00 AM Pacific Standard Time
Keep going up the chain...
DigiCert Global Root CA Root certificate authority Expires: Sunday, November 9, 2031 at 4:00:00 PM Pacific Standard Time
Now you've gotten all the way to what is called a root certificate. You have to decide for yourself whether that source is one you are willing to trust. If your browser is Firefox, its a certificate that was pre-installed the browser. Otherwise, in most cases the browser defers to certificates that are pre-installed in to your operating system. The most common shenanigan is someone installing a non-standard certificate on the OS or the browser. Proving that one way or another can be quite difficult and way beyond what I can do here. If it's one of these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certificate_authority#Providers, you're probably OK. Things to watch out for are indications that the root is issued by whatever company owns the computer/browser you are using, or the chain at some point contains the name of a firewall vendor such as BlueCoat.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:13 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most Tor servers are now actual servers with good connections nowadays. That said, demand exceeds supply, so your point about them being slow as fuck still stands.
godless-life ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:11:01 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good to know, thanks! Haven't used TOR for some time, will check it out.
Shrubberer ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:34:07 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wth, you realize that with TOR your data gets ping ponged through dozens of private computers. Sending your bank details over TOR would be a very stupid thing to do.
Hullu2000 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:34:11 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're using https (like bank data should) that's not a problem. Besides only the exit node can see your data. My point is make sure you use https and you'll be fine.
Normal_Red_Sky ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:21:29 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Careful, you'll get flagged as an extremist just for using those.
0OKM9IJN8UHB7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You supposedly get flagged just for searching TAILS.
Funeralord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:54 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
RIP Sonic the Hedgehog's sidekick.
Xellith ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:48:32 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tunnelbear
expatToNZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't it dangerous to use e-commerce with TOR? What about a MITM attack?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:05:17 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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LeakyLycanthrope ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you elaborate for...uh...my friend?
godless-life ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did this last time in March and it totally worked.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:37:55 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am actually in a poor country. Why are my flights not cheap? ๐ฃ
AskMeAboutMyBandcamp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:40:49 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Huh. That's awesome! Tried and can confirm working!
Bran_Solo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:25:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't need a VPN to start this search, you can use Google Matrix to search for the fares first then figure out where you want your vpn to be next.
SlowRollingBoil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:09:21 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you link to this Google Matrix? My Google searches revealed several things that might be called Google Matrix including just Google Flights itself.
Bran_Solo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:27:41 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://matrix.itasoftware.com/
This lets you search for any available fare. Once you've found it, figuring out how to buy it is the next step :)
SlowRollingBoil ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:40:39 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is that fundamentally different than Google Flights? Seems like some company they would have purchased for their software and then used to create Google Flights.
Bran_Solo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:45:05 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes it is completely different. ITA is meant for travel agencies and does not even allow you to book flights. It is a central database of fares available for offer.
SlowRollingBoil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:55:52 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did a quick check against Google Flights and in my example/spot checks it was $10 less each time for the exact same flights (not sure why) but otherwise functioned pretty much the same way.
In any case, I'll be using Google Flights/Matrix and VPN/Incognito next time I need to fly.
Bran_Solo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:05:11 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ITA has all of the Google Flights fares in it as well as many millions more. You can find any fare in ITA but you have to figure out how to get it.
It may be that Google flights in this case is selecting a different location for where to bill the fare from than the default in ITA. ITA can let you search for a fare from Argentina to JFK, billed from Manila with a fuel dump in Ho Chi Minh. It can do any crazy thing you want but he learning curve is steep.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:50:54 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This also works with UFC Pay Per Views. I regularly watch MMA PPV that costs 65 dollars for only 25 or so.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:05:31 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Might as well go on watchwrestling or something
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:15:05 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't want to watch shitty skipping streams on my computer. I want to watch it on my 4K tv in HD. It's well worth 20 bucks to do that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:21:05 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough
hamfraigaar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't know about UFC, but in my experience, even though I pay for the NBA League Pass because it clears my innocent conscience, I am aware that the streamed broadcasts on the internet are in way better quality. Often 6000 kbs compared to 3200 kbs on the official stream.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No idea. But again it's easy for me to fire up the UFC App on Apple TV and just watch it. That alone is worth it
FreedomIII ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about African countries?
godless-life ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I never tried. Most African countries have really poor bandwidth so commercial VPN providers don't really operate there. The only country my VPN operates in that region is Egypt, and when I tried right now I got connection timeouts.
tmleafsfan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:26:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also works for sports league subscription like NFL, NHL.
SirAlexH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:52:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Out of curiosity, and for convenience sakes we'll assume OP is from America,....is this illegal? I'm not criticising I'm just curious. Wouldn't it be fraud because you are (hypothetically) American but pretending you are from Argentina (hypothetically)?
Sophophilic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:09:59 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You could be traveling and purchasing tickets for future travel.
godless-life ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:36:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm only pretending to be in Argentina. Since I disclose my passport details, the airline knows full well that I'm not Argentinean - I might simply be on trip while booking a future flight.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:36 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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mapryan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When you purchase a vpn (such as www.airvpn.org) you install some software onto your computer. This allows you to select from a list the country where your connection appears to be coming from
LordOrgasm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:34 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do I use a VPN?
godless-life ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:37 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Check the replies to this comment http://www.reddit.com/r/askreddit/comments/4u71gg/_/d5nxo6k
And use /r/vpn for recommendations on how to choose and how to setup your computer accordingly, it's not difficult.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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godless-life ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:28 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Check the replies to this comment http://www.reddit.com/r/askreddit/comments/4u71gg/_/d5nxo6k
And use /r/vpn for recommendations on how to choose and how to setup your computer accordingly, it's not difficult.
arthur2-shedsjackson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's the best way for someone who's not that tech savvy to set up a VPN.
godless-life ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:29 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's really simple actually - pick the VPN of your choice (/r/vpn has a weekly recommendation thread), install their software (or if they don't have their own, the generic openvpn client from www.openvpn.net) and follow the instructions on the vpn provider website.
Check www.whatismyip.com afterwards to see if it works.
You_are_Retards ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not up on vpn...but would Hola work as well?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:43 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Always wanted a VPN. I'm willing to pay 15 or 30 bucks a month... What would you suggest?
godless-life ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:10:28 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A MONTH?!
Dude that's too much, 50 a year is the undiscounted going rate for most providers.
I'm using www.ironsocket.com myself and have no reason to complain. NordVPN, PIA and VikingVPN are also good.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:04:45 on July 26, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh shit!!
Thanks man, I'll try it out.
Sophilosophical ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:34 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was reading about this, and private-browsed recently while buying tickets. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think you may also just be able to change the country location on the website, like I did on Expedia. Gave me different price options.
HadHerses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:19:24 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I live in China so naturally have a VPN, during the two seperate week long Governement imposed national holidays when everyone travels, I book hotels and flights with it on as hotel sites in particular will hike the prices as it is the peakiest of the peak seasons and often will have a mandatory fee such as "Chinese New Year dinner" that you can't get them to remove as they think you are the China market.
Booking a weeks accomodation in February in Thailand from the UK is soooo much cheaper than in China!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:15 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hehe this one is actually quite ingenious...
BabyJourney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:36 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Suggestion on which VPN is the best to use?
godless-life ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:04:53 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm using www.ironsocket.com myself and have no reason to complain. NordVPN, PIA and VikingVPN are also good.
BabyJourney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:58 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks! :)
RedCloakedCrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Posting to remember this.
-bobat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:17:44 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is a save button.
RedCloakedCrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:35:53 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not on Alien Blue for comments. :)
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:19:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:11:44 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why? He never lied about where he was, it's not his fault they assumed he was in Argentina just because his traffic was being routed through it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:16:40 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's actually a good point
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 07:51:03 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
your mom is poor, bitch.
[deleted] ยท 584 points ยท Posted at 06:08:03 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In Massachusetts, a state official can accept a gift given because of or in connection to their position only if it is under fifty dollars or it is perishable and they share it with their division and the public to the greatest extent possible.
ConstableBlimeyChips ยท 294 points ยท Posted at 10:01:15 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So I can literally bribe a Massachusetts state trooper with a box full of donuts as long as he shares it with other troopers and other people?
TheSideStream ยท 151 points ยท Posted at 13:38:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Legally, I'm sure you can. I doubt he'd like you any more than he already did for trying to bribe him with donuts.
jfractal ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 17:16:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know man, Krispy Kreme donuts would he enough to bribe me...
TheSideStream ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 17:24:19 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well yeah, donuts are great, but it's the social aspect of it. Rice is good, but if you asked an Asian to do something for you with a promise of rice, it won't go over well.
dancesLikeaRetard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:21:21 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rice 5/7
Rice with asian 2/7
hakuna_tamata ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:47:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rice isn't that good though.
TheSideStream ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:53:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heard its 8/10 with Mentos.
EsQuiteMexican ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:01:57 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Try Mexican red rice.
meanderling ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:48:06 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's Massachusetts, so probably Dunkin.
I_need_proof ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:27:17 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Id go gay for a Krispy Kreme donut right about now. Damn you western Connecticut.
joelupi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:22:42 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Connecticut is that way. Now get out...
[deleted] ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 15:24:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No. There are independent laws concerning bribery. This is just about gifts.
wavecrasher59 ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 18:13:55 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes yes "gifts"
CrazyKirby97 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:14:36 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Another loophole:
Telling someone you'll pay them to do a thing is bribery. Buying them a thing regardless and giving them the ol' nudge nudge, wink wink is not.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:43:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Right, but as the good state of Massachusetts has taught us, you can't bribe someone with under $50. /s
screenwriterjohn ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:49:44 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would think clear quid pro quos are illegal.
Lobbying isn't bribery. Just feels that way.
Cosimo_Zaretti ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:00:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Of course he has to share, it'd be unprofessional not to.
theodore33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:37:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Where do you buy a box of donuts more expensive than $50 tho?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:05:17 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The trick is to replace the word "box" with "pallet".
DoctorOctagonapus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:17 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
$50 can buy quite a lot of donuts...
AnneBancroftsGhost ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:26:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately the quid pro quo is still illegal.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:32 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Where are you buying donuts that a box of them costs $50?
Carvinrawks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:48:33 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, theyre torally cool with that.
[deleted] ยท 85 points ยท Posted at 06:12:35 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 06:14:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If it comes from the whole class, it can be up to $150 without having to use the loophole. That is another weird loophole.
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 06:15:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
MIT here I come! Best professor ever parties, like all the time.
[deleted] ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 06:16:29 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can give those professors whatever you want because they are not public officials.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:05 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait. How are people who work for the state in a public owned university not public officials? They represent an office of the state?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:23:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I might be wrong. Wikipedia says that it is privately owned. If it were publicly owned, the laws would apply (the up to $150 from a class collectively is explicitly for teachers).
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:26:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whatever Massachusetts, I'd rather go to CIT anyway, I'm partial to Jack Parsons.
koobear ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:05:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
CalTech is also private.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:39 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aw. I couldn't afford that, pass the math test, or petition. Go bears.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:26:54 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know RI law at all.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:27:33 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
California
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:29:04 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, I see. I googled "CIT school" and got a university in RI.
Alice_in_Neverland ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:04:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
CIT?
c00k13_m0n5t3r ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 11:52:34 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He means Caltech i'm guessing
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:39:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
California Institute of Technology
Alice_in_Neverland ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:28:59 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know Caltech is also private, right? And no one actually calls it CIT.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I already covered that in another thread. YIL.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:49:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jack Parsons was a nutter. Okay... that just makes me like him more.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Ok, some may disagree with me, but my favorite scientists are the ones that could have fun. The ones that were possessors of genius and most polymathic held very strange beliefs and sometimes proved them.
They who stand on the shoulders of giants to see over the horizon.
vulcan583 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:07:50 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mit is private.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:27:19 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
YIL
giveitago ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:32:31 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't accept this unless I shared it with you guys, to the greatest extent possible.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here's that huge doobie I rolled you professor. Everyone's getting lit.
Greatest extent possible.
allie-the-cat ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 10:27:39 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How often are these laws updated? $50 20 years ago went a fair bit further than today.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:15 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For many laws it's just defined as 3x (or whatever) some other amount, so you only have to continuously update one thing.
PopsicleIncorporated ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 16:11:08 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't this the plot to a Parks and Rec episode (just in Indiana)?
TheCrimsonRock ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 17:26:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah it was, the department got gifted a basket of cheese and wine, Leslie wouldn't let anyone open it. But after work she opens it to drink with what she called "the boys club". Then she got in trouble for opening the basket.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:11:52 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't watch it. Maybe.
pysience ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:48:02 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:42:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For what?
Amp3r ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:50:37 on July 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being useless.
Li0nhead ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 13:17:11 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I worked in local government here in the UK years ago they had a 'no accepting of gifts from public/business' rule.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:23:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At all? Interesting.
Li0nhead ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:39:44 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not 100% sure as was back in 1999 but certain it was that or a very low sum.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:09:36 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How low? The one time I briefly worked for local government, we could accept very minor things like cookies. Inexplicably, someone actually did bring some for no particular reason.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:36 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, my state has a law stating $25 or $50, but my agency has a rule that you can't take anything. Idk what the legality would be if I were to be fired for accepting a gift, but I imagine it would cost me a lot more in legal fees than a $25 gift
Cosimo_Zaretti ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:59:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So a case of beer would be spot on for price and shareability.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:23:32 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You would not need to share a case of beer unless it were really expensive (over $50).
Shakeweight_All-Star ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:56:06 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
MA State worker who just took this ethics training. You only have to share if the gift is over $50, for example a $75 edible arrangement or a very nice case of beer.
Also fun fact, the street value of an item such as event tickets also counts next to face value, whichever is more. So a consultant who wants to take you to a red sox game would have to check stub hub or similar. $45 face value tickets that would resell for $100 would be illegal.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:28 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's exactly what I said. I just took the training too, and the second paragraph was my favorite weird example.
sjhock ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:41:06 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Re: your username, what is your favorite fantasy world?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:51:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's hard to choose. I like steampunk worlds like the world of Burton and Swinburne.
I like adventure worlds like the Mediterranean in Ancient Greek mythology.
I like worlds where people don't live on the groundโlike a jungle where people live in the trees or a world where no land is dry all the time.
I like sci-fi worlds that feel totally foreign. Garth Nix's A Confusion of Princes is a cool example of this.
mrdeadsniper ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:12:43 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In Alabama you just have to prove you were friends before you were in a position of power.
Woo corruption.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:19:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yay! I think one could potentially exploit that in Massachusetts too. The rule is against receiving gifts because of your position, and one could argue that if it comes from a preexisting friend, it could be for other reasons.
Futurejunior ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:48:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So if you get them some hookers it's cool as long as they share?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:20 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know if hookers count as perishable. However, I think that there are laws about illegal activities in connection with one's position, and hookers are illegal in Massachusetts.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:33:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
fifty dollars OR it is perishable
So I can bribe a Massachusetts state cop who pulls me over with $5,000 worth of frozen shrimp?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:19 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can gift it to him in an unrelated manner. However, he will have to share it.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:12:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Caviar?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, I think that works.
fauxdoge ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:59:49 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah my uncle told me about this recently and that they have to either return or discard hundreds of dollars a week in gift cards.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:01:11 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh really? I did not realize that it came up that often. I only know this because I'm working as a summer intern for the state.
chaotic ยท 474 points ยท Posted at 12:49:19 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can exchange your Chik-fil-a kids meal toy/book thing for an ice cream cone.
ndxjsuhd ยท 325 points ยท Posted at 15:43:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does it come with ice cream in it?
brett96 ยท 157 points ยท Posted at 17:25:07 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the second loophole
FaithIsToBeAwake ยท 124 points ยท Posted at 16:32:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Surprisingly, yes.
Isrulius ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:48:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well duh, otherwise it would just be called a cone.
I'm not very fun at parties.
Number127 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:34 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only if you exchange your cone for it.
OGNips ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:33 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ah the ol' ice cream-a-roo
CrazyKirby97 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:09:05 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hold my ice cream cone, I'm going in.
kulwop ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:39:27 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He didn't really switch up anything, though.
bobby8375 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:16:52 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not ice cream, it's "ice dream" - not enough milk fat to be labeled ice cream.
RGB3x3 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:45:29 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not really a loophole. Most people know that you can do that.
Source: I work for chick-fil-a and many many kids do this. Also, WTF is wrong with our new menu? Looks like it was designed by a complete moron.
rbulls ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:46:33 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They got rid of the spicy chicken biscuit, I lost track of how many times I ate that for breakfast
ehwnnc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:06:06 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why did they change he BBQ sauce? It really really bothers me.
ndxjsuhd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:01 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What the fuck. I went to chick fil a last week and it was normal. I went to chick fil a Thursday in a town 3 hours away and thought it was just different there. I thought the bbq sauce was like hickory or some shit and it tasted more different and worse tbh. I just thought i never paid attention to the taste, but nope I guess it is different
Roadsguy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:04:21 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I still miss the brownie. :(
rata2ille ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:44 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As an adult, can I order an ice cream cone and get the toy?
splorf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:07 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you aware of the folks over at /r/mandelaeffect squabbling over the spelling of the name of that restaurant?
Even in this comment thread, it's spelled two different ways.
I3eastmode ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:27:28 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's ice dream
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:32:36 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same with Culver's kids bags! :D
hitension ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:46:59 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Semi related tip: you can buy a kids meal at any age at any fast food place. They're not gonna deny a customer, and if they get really suspicious you could say you're bringing it home to your child or something(I only had that happen like once ever, and I think if I had balls of steel and said "Nope, getting kids meal for myself." they'd probably still give it to me...).
The average kids meal at any fast food place is cheaper, has a portion size closer to that of a regular meal(think 600 calories instead of 1200), and often have healthy options like milk and apple slices that aren't on the "adult" menu. Chipotle's kids meal isn't particularly nutritious, but it has about as much food as a burrito bowl for like half the price. And there's MILK!
Jaracuda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:11 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can also do this at burger king
Kshport ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:04 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not a loophole, the option is to either get ice cream or the toy when you're ordering.
Edc3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:09 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did that all the time when I was a kid!
sassyseconds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:50 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I seen this happen yesterday and I was surprised. I thought the kid just got a free ice cream cone. I Was salty as fuck.
monopticon ยท 311 points ยท Posted at 17:12:11 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you are calling to disconnect cable/phone/internet call their sales/new services number and when someone picks up say "Is this the cancellations department?"
When they say "No." Say "Dammit that girl said she was transferring me to someone who could cancel my services!"
They will directly transfer you to retention (or cancellations) with out making you go through the whole process of account verification/trying to talk you out of it/trying to talk you into transferring services. You will have to go through this with retention to some extent but at least you don't have to do it twice. If they ask you why tell them "So the government will stop watching me through the damn TV/internet/phone w/e." No one wants to deal with crazy. They will put a hurry on that shit.
damnitdann ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 19:09:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I work for AT&T I do this regularly.... Also retentions/cancellation departments have special plans they can offer you just to stay....
Barnowl79 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:22:02 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I definitely have the number for AT&T Customer Retention saved, and call it every time I feel like my bill is too high.
Top_Wop ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:31:31 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Care to share that number? I have AT&T now, with my contract coming up in a month.
Barnowl79 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:51:04 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Customer retention is 877-999-1083. Tell them you want a better deal.
Top_Wop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:35 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for posting the number.
zdy132 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:10 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How dors it work for you? Does it help much?
tkdbbelt ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:56:08 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep my husband always talks nicely to those guys to get us better deals. We may not save money but we get more data or something
monopticon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:17 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same for COX (used to work there). But I gotta say I have had to (no choice) cancel services a few times in the last few years and they really do make you jump through some hoops.
Anarch33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:52 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thats how I added 2 gigs to my data plan to free hehe
Ashkela ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:54 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, I remember working for them and knowing that. Works for Comcast too
havok0159 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:52:04 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's how I went from a shitty 20 euro phone plan to an 5 euro one with unlimited almost everything. Obviously not AT&T though.
DraconisRex ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 20:35:52 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the most effective part of this LPT is the little bit at the end, there. The trick is to go zero-to-crazy faster than the other guy. None of this tit-for-tat escalation shit. Just full-on: "I have a tiny little room under my basement for people like you..."
Works like a charm. You'll never have to worry about a speeding ticket again.
Kaligraphic ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 23:59:07 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that sounds kind of threatening. Just say you're going amish or are allergic to electricity or something.
VelveteenAmbush ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:05:56 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is so funny to me for some reason. Really deadpan voice, like it's no big deal, "oh because I'm going to go Amish"
UpHandsome ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:17:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At that point one of two things happens. Either I start recording and report you to the police for threatening/harassing me or I end the call.
johnnyringo771 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:23:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Protip: almost all those calls are recorded anyways. The 'this call may be monitored for quality assurance' disclaimer you hear is them saying: we're recording this shit bro.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:05:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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DraconisRex ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:21:19 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see the problem. I'm out of context, here. I'm talking about getting pulled over. Saying the above will get you immediately incarcerated, and therefore no longer able to drive your vehicle. No more speeding tickets.
Malawi_no ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:15:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Along the same line - You can also start talking about Jesus to get things moving.
Lee_Ars ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:58:03 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then, if you're dealing with an ISP or a cell provider, the fastest way to bypass the retention specialist's saving attempts is to simply say, "I'm moving out of the country."
Short-circuits all of their scripts, and they'll typically just respond with "Well, nothing I can do, then! Let's get you processed."
monopticon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:51:16 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who dealt with that kind of stuff "That is exciting! Where to/how long? We have a fantastic vacation program if you will be leaving for a short amount of time!"
Government is watching you? Alright - Imma speed this along an get off the phone.
aldach ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I loved the crazy style at the end
monopticon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Had a guy wanting to return his modem because it was talking to him. I noped out of that one as quickly as possible.
Elfish-Phantom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:51 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wouldn't they noticed that you weren't transferred?
monopticon ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:37:35 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is a long answer for this stemming for my experience with one major telecommunications company that really just boils down to: No.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:53 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I told my cell provider I was moving out of the country. :v
plump_turkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:07 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even easier, when they ask "May I ask why you are canceling?" me: "no" or when they say "Why are you canceling?" me: "No questions"
monopticon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:58:53 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I made my post from the perspective of someone who actually answered a small portion of these types of calls.
Although my company was script free and extremely relaxed about "retention" calls and even though we were prepped to endure hostile customers it still had an effect. Curt customers still had an impact on my mood. Having someone call in to cancel services required a routine, essentially I had to try to prevent them from cancelling. Then, since inevitably they either really needed to cancel or were just looking for a better deal I had to transfer them to cancellations who would do exactly what I just tried to do but (sometimes) with slightly better offers but the customer had to repeat themselves to a whole new person. This upsets the customer and makes it harder on the cancellations rep.
So the short cut is really to alleviate the stress on the customer's end and the rep's end. As a customer you don't have to fight to cancel and as a rep you don't feel deplorable or as upset that you lost a customer.
There is a lot more to what I suggested to help both people on the call rather than just the end user.
Gordonbombay1990 ยท 503 points ยท Posted at 11:59:36 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In CA if you receive a moving violation you can petition it with something called a Trial by Declaration. Instead of appearing in the court you simply make your case on this document. When you receive the document though you are required to pay the fine and you give up your chance to take traffic school. In the document though, all you have to write is, "I am not guilty." After you submit it it goes to the desk of the officer that issued the ticket. More often than not the officer does not get it to it and after 6 months the ticket is nullified and you get your money back. It has worked three times for me.
Li0nhead ยท 133 points ยท Posted at 15:44:07 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was hoping you were going to say "....you can contest it with trial by combat...."
hungry_lobster ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 17:09:18 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Sir it's just a seatbelt ticket. There's no need to..."
EsQuiteMexican ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 19:06:18 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"I DEMAND A SPEAR!"
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:14:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"TREBUCHETS AT DAWN!"
LeakyLycanthrope ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:26:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"THOU HAST OFFENDED MINE HONOUR"
uber1337h4xx0r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:07 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"...to continue resisting! Stop resisting!!!"
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 17:16:39 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think that's just for divorce proceedings
screamingmorgasm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:29:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I pick this angry brown bear as my champion.
Li0nhead ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:48:37 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I pick this skinny white twink as mine.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:18:40 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We all win this fight
DoctorOctagonapus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:37:08 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trial by combat has been outlawed remember?
Abandon_The_Thread_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:56:11 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why is this honestly not still a thing? Just do the American gladiators jousting thing basically. Who would say no to doing that to settle disputes??
novelty_bone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:49 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't a guy in England try this within the last few years?
Li0nhead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:37:12 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, sure there was a TIL thread on it. Think the court denied the request.
OK_Compooper ยท 162 points ยท Posted at 14:41:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I tried this. Wrote a six page doc with pictures stating my case. I got a one line document back that said something to the effect of "denied."
Edit: I didn't know about the next part. Damn.
CFH_101proof ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:12:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Same. I don't think they read it
Edit: typo
LGBTreecko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you a word.
Creabhain ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:58:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What was the next part?
OK_Compooper ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:19:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just gave up after it was denied. I didn't know about the "I am not guilty" reply part. Damn.
uber1337h4xx0r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:07 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like you might get in trouble for lying if you are actually guilty (cop shows up with radar or video showing you speeding). Or maybe not - maybe it's like how you can plead not guilty in court and not be punished for perjury, I guess.
NotOBAMAThrowaway ยท 228 points ยท Posted at 15:40:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I also did this.
Benefits are: 1 the cop gets paid overtime for appearing in court, so even if you win, the cop gets rewarded for hassling you. But the cop doesn't get paid to reply to the written appeal.
2 a judge is hesitant to side in your favor in front of the other people in court because he doesn't want to set an expectation or to show up the cop in public. But these issues go away with a paper appeal
3 you don't have to take time off work to go to court
4 live in front of a judge you may get nervous and not present your case well. But the written form you full out at your own pace and can make sure everything is stated as it should be.
I had a passenger cited for not wearing a seatbelt. Kind of pissed me off because he actually was wearing a seatbelt. I noted the cop listed wrong speed limit zone on ticket and the cop was traveling in opposite direction and couldn't possibly accurately determine if s backseat passenger had a seatbelt on or not. I did win the case
MACP ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 14:41:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now that's a loophole... But what's with you getting 3 moving violations?!
I3eastmode ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 15:16:17 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He wasn't guilty
Sean1708 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:58:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"wasn't"
Mastersploder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:22:20 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OBJECTION!
theniceguytroll ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:50:32 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Overruled!
Jay_Highland ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:05:28 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Getting 3 moving violations is not difficult. They will try to tack on every single thing they can. Some people get that in one instance, I got 5 tickets one time from being pulled over including a ticket for my bike rack blocking my plate.
VelveteenAmbush ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:07:50 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean... you know you can't have stuff blocking your plate, right? You act like they trumped up some charges but kind of sounds like you deserved it
Jay_Highland ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:21:53 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I know that. However, pretty much any bike rack on a car is going to block the plate. If the rack doesnt, the bike will. Just because something is a law, doesnt mean it has to be enforced all the time. My plates were valid and up-to-date. It would be impossible to transport my bike without blocking my plate. It is one of those rules that shouldnt be enforced unless someone is blantly blocking their plate because the are expired, belong to another car, or stolen. That is when that charge should be given. Not to a guy on a lunch break that plans on riding right after work. There was absolutely no harm caused by blocking the plate and on top of that, I have been driving at least some of the time with a rack on my cars and never had recieved a ticket for it.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:23:55 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you must be a dick. every officer I've encountered usually helps me out because i am respectful and grateful for them and it shows when we communicate. Ive never had an officer tack on extra shit, hell i almost got out of doing 87 in a 65.
ShitFacedEsco ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:02:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You must not be a minority.
uber1337h4xx0r ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:01:20 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Minority here. Obvious Muslim guy if you see me in person (especially if you read my ID). Every cop I've dealt with when pulled over (aside for one person who had personal issues with a relative that lived next door to her) has been decent. Two gave warnings, two gave tickets. Wasn't salty because I deserved them, cop wasn't rude about them.
[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 19:27:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you must be a minority who blames the way they are treated on something they can't control rather than their shitty attitude and demeanor
ShitFacedEsco ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:08:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, yet another white redditor who thinks systemic racism and profiling are just lazy, ungrateful minorities crying wolf.
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 20:20:50 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yet another minority who somehow thinks systemic racism is the biggest issue facing this country. In America we provide all the basic necessities including a minimal education. we lower standards to invite more minorities to our prestigious institutions and advanced education programs. We have quotas that require our most successful businesses to hire minorities. We have grants, scholarships, and opportunities that require a certain skin pigmentation to receive. We actual try to help and somehow this all equates to "systemic racism".....the bottom line is this. America has provided more than enough resources and avenues for minorities to be successful, and there are plenty that already are. I am not nearly as priviledged as 50cent or michael jordan, or Ben carson, or PRESIDENT OBAMA. If you aren't making it happen, its time to look in the mirror. I think its funny that you shout systemic racism but white countries are the ONLY countries in the world where we try so hard to be inclusive. Go fuck yourself.
Jay_Highland ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:54:34 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why do you assume it is me and not other issues? The officers that work in the suburbs around KC are dicks. I had a friend get a ticket for 36 in a 35. He received another ticket because he pulled into a parking lot on the left instead of the right.
No, I am not a dick at all. I am courteous but firm about my rights. I speak minimally when dealing with police as you should. I am never disrespectful, cruel. I behave completely neutral. At the time, I was an early 20s teen and that basically makes you guilty of something around here. My sister once got a possession charge because the cop found a little stem on her floorboard. They tested it and it came from maple tree.
uber1337h4xx0r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:44 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did he cross a double yellow line? That's illegal, so the cop had a right to ticket him for that. It's like if I pull over into the sidewalk because the street has no shoulder. I know I will get a ticket
Jay_Highland ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:31 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, he just pulled into a parking lot on the left side instead of the right. When pulled over, you are suppose to go right, not left. It was midnight and no one was around. He just wanted to write another ticket if he could.
Porridgeandpeas ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:58:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I got away with 48 in a 30 because I answered all his questions, was polite and I'm a female. Winning.
CylonGlitch ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:40:45 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I got pulled over for doing 65 in a 30. It was about 4am. The officer pulled me over and asked me, "How fast were you going?" I said, "I think about 65." He said he clocked me doing "64". He went to his car and came back, he said, "I appreciate your honesty, so I wrote you up for 35 in a 30, keep it down and drive safe." I thanked him and went on my way. If he wrote me up for 65 I would have lost my license for sure.
Sean1708 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:00:21 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The upvote/downvote ratios in this thread are just odd.
Porridgeandpeas ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:25:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's because I mentioned I'm a female, although I stand by it as part of the reason I got off.
uber1337h4xx0r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:16 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ironically, I think if you took that to court, a lawyer could argue the ticket is invalid, and since the cop can't write the new ticket, he's fucked.
Also, they need to find a system that makes it fair for all people when it comes to getting tickets. Like even when it comes to being polite - a person with certain forms of tourette syndrome might not be able to control themselves from saying certain stuff.
CylonGlitch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:26 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He never wrote a first ticket, he first checked with me, I told him the truth, then he went and wrote the ticket.
Also note, that this was a good 20 years ago before everything was electronic.
uber1337h4xx0r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:53 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I meant if you were cited as doing 35 in a 30, when the speed limit was higher, the ticket is not legal. Best he can do is claim he pulled you over somewhere else that actually has a 30 mph limit when you fight it
CylonGlitch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:57 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, the real speed limit was 30, I was doing 65.
uber1337h4xx0r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:59:53 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ooooooooooooohhhhhhh. I didn't pay enough attention. I thought it was like a 60 in a 45 for some reason.
mrdeadsniper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:32 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Since he wasn't guilty three times seems like he lives near predatory police agencies.
/s
But not really. Some places have substantial budget allocation to tickets. Fines should go straight to the state level so municipalities don't have incentive to write tickets beyond public safety.
Wilreadit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:35:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I demand a trial by declaration.
brett96 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:32:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I DECLARE INNOCENCE!
Wilreadit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:03:20 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You raped her, you murdered her. You raped her, you murdered her.
malleus12 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:57:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
After you lose the Trial by Declaration, you can still request an actual hearing before a judge. By the time that whole process has played out it's usually past 6 months, happened to me I got up to the judge and he just said the evidence against me had expired and I got my money back.
simplyclueless ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:17:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Using Trial by Declaration does not waive the ability to go to traffic school. Rules for traffic school vary by county in California, and judges/administrators have the discretion to grant/remove traffic school eligibility pretty much at will. I've successfully taken traffic school after losing a TbD more than once.
mothstuckinabath ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:06:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Another good one: If you go to court, there's a pretty decent chance the officer won't show up, in which case the whole thing is dismissed. If he does show up, wait for him to make his statement. He is required to state that he was wearing his uniform and in a marked car. If he doesn't say it, ask him to confirm that he is finished making his statement. If he says yes, tell the judge that he failed to mention it, and it will be dismissed.
Source: Know lawyers who have done this and were extremely amused/proud
hungry_lobster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trial be Declaration? How do you receive that form though?
ownage99988 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:04:42 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even better so you're not stressing about it for 6 months, go to the courthouse and say you want to fight it. Then, before that court date, the deadline is usually two weeks before, reschedule it. They 9/10 times will not re subpoena the officer and there will be nobody there to say you are lying, and the ticket will be dismissed.
LivingLegend69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:52 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I demand a trial by combat!
sonofaresiii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:20:38 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bit late to the party, but similarly in nyc, if you get a ticket for a minor violation like open container, hopping the subway turnstile, etc, wait until like a week before your court date to try to pay it. They're pretty much counting on you not bothering with court and just paying the fine immediately, and they really don't want to tie up the court's time with minor violations so once it gets close to your court date they tend to just drop them. I've had four tickets that this happened to, where I called and asked how to pay and they said it was dropped. Each time, my friends also had the same ticket and they all just paid immediately.
tartarshoes ยท 343 points ยท Posted at 18:27:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Loop hole for "killing two birds with one stone"
It sounds kind of hard, but really, all you have to do is use the same stone. There is no limit on how many throws you get with that stone.
jlhc55 ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 20:03:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think killing one bird with a stone sounds pretty damn hard.
Scripter17 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:57:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not if it's a boulder.
HerpaDerpaShmerpadin ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:19:18 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The BOULDER fears no birds!
Scripter17 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:20:21 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except Eagles, 'MURICA!
(I'm Canadian, sorry aboot that, eh?)
BoiledFrogs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:58:15 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds even more difficult...
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:21:10 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wile E. Coyote begs to differ.
HereditaryMediocrity ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:57:07 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a child I was camping with the family of a friend I was in little league with.
We spent half the day 'pitching' rocks at various trees and whatnot.
Without thinking much, as children do, I took aim at a bird across a decent sized creek and struck it dead. It twitched for a bit on the muddy bank and I felt terrible.
handparty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:36 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You do get infinite tries.
lupinedisco ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:00:57 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Big stone, tiny birds. Bam!"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:43 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't even throw, just bludgeon.
TheFriffin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:34 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, so if you smash a bird while its in your hand it's worth two birds in bush currency
WhtRbbt222 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:36 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It depends on the size of the rock, and the size of the bird. It'd be really hard to kill two emus with a pebble.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:55 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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MechanicalEngineEar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:23:47 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
little caged birds, big stone.
cqz ยท 389 points ยท Posted at 06:20:11 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I think many people do know this, but if you let subscription services (eg. VPN providers) elapse you often get a discount offer to stay with them.
godless-life ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 07:53:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most offer the discount even 2 weeks before the end of the subscription, if you ignored the prior 17 retention mails they sent.
For VPN particularly, there's also /r/vpncoupons.
mothstuckinabath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:36 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry for the dumb question, but VPNs are appearing all over this thread, so uh what is a VPN?
jbr_r18 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:59:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Virtual Private Network. It routes your traffic through another server.
Say you select a VPN server in France and you want to browse Google.
Typically, your computer would connect to your ISP, who would connect to Google. With the VPN, your computer connects to your ISP then to the French server, which connects to their ISP which connects to Google.
Reasons to use this? It hides your IP address from any website you connect to so your can't be traced back to your computer, only to the VON server. Also, if you use an encrypted server then you can hide the traffic going to your computer.
Why is this good? It prevents your ISP from throttling sites like Netflix, it hides your traffic and it prevents much greater powers like the Government from tracing your IP address and using that to find who you are or where you love from your ISP
uber1337h4xx0r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The downside - if the government is running the company that is running your server, then you are easier to track. :)
perpetuallytemporary ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:54 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea but they don't wanna show their hand, whereas the MPAA will. Just don't do terroristy stuff and you should be fine.
Also good for watching region-locked youtube videos.
lordoftheshadows ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:57:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Virtual Private Network. Basically you get to connect to the internet through someone else so that your traffic is hard to track. For the technical people I know that's not exactly right but it's close enough.
Siberwulf ยท 91 points ยท Posted at 13:21:08 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lapse..... Sorry.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:29:21 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Prolapse. Anal prolapse.
cqz ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:27:06 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The subscription is time-based, can't that elapse?
XAM2175 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 16:49:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The time for which the subscription was valid can elapse, ie "weeks elapsed between my subscribing and the service becoming available", but the subscription itself will lapse if you don't renew it.
Siberwulf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:32:37 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought you were saying it expired. Lapsed would be correct in that case.
TardisTechnologist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:33 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you, I read that sentence three times and thought I was having a strike until I saw your comment.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:13:03 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
stroke..... Sorry.
PoisonousPlatypus ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:04 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Elapse is also correct.
seabassseabreeze ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:08:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're wrong, but nice. Participation medals for everyone!
PoisonousPlatypus ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:00:11 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But I'm right. It has a different meaning, but is still correct.
LucyLilium92 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 09:06:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Japan crate gave me coupons for like 3 months to get a subscription after I used a free trial month
RedEyedChile ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:50:40 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
jred250 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:52:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
(Cough) brazzers does as well. What? Nothing.
davepa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:57:04 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I find that when you let them expire, they often forget to actually shut your service off. My vpn and a certain streaming service expired over a year ago and they still work fine.
james___uk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:04 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I got so many offers from a magazine I was subbed to, they even sent me a free one out of the blue
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I decided to not pay to renew my SirirusXM subscription for 3 months, got a call for 6 months at $25. It went back to the regular rate after that ended, but I haven't tried it again because it resets my favorites if I cancel.
joeltb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:50:04 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have been doing this every six months for the last 2 years. I call to cancel a couple days before the 'trial' ends and say, "My wife wants me to cancel unfortunately. The only way I can keep it is if I can have it for $25 for the next six months". They put my on hold and when they come back they approve my request! I have been doing this for the last 2 years. If I think about it tho, they are the ones winning here. I barely use my car(work from home) and when I do listen to music, it's via iPhone bluetooth.
Keykatriz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:18 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some online stores do this too. Add stuff to your cart then leave it, some sites will send you a reminder email with a discount.
Phiau ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:28:06 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eve Online does this.
TheChemistAstronaut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:43 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To what extent and when and how? (I mean, hey, you can PLEX your account if you know what you are doing and play by paying with in game money, but still cool to know some discounts)
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:39:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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stealthxstar ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:54:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This makes me sad, but life lessons...
skineechef ยท 427 points ยท Posted at 13:40:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
i learned from reddit
If you have an old prepaid credit/gift card that has a low balance (
even penniesor $1), use it for a free trial for netflix, hbogoor NOW rather, amazon prime.. anything that needs a credit card to sign up, but only has to verify a balance.Edit: HBO NOW seems to be pretty selective in it's supported devices
Ohitsriahh ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 18:34:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you have to have at least $1.00, because that's usually the amount that they verify with.
skineechef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:39:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I honestly don't recall the exact amount on the cards, but it may very well have been slightly in excess of $1.
reallifedog ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 17:49:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
also, works at some gas stations.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:26:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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reallifedog ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 18:32:39 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I had a visa gift card I got from my work for christmas that had maybe $12 remaining after being gifts for my family and friends. I figured I'd just put the rest of it in my tank. To my surprise my tank was filled. Super nice because I was BROKE. Next time I went to that same gas station I figured what the heck, lets roll the dice again and it worked; topped off. I was able to do this probably 6 or 7 more times before the card was denied at the pump.
My figuring was that the gas station pre-authed the card for $1(common practice, which is why some places swipe your card and the receipt immediately prints out) and then when they batched their credit at night the transaction was declined for insufficient funds.
Most EDC software cannot withdraw a partial amount of the transactions to the amount that is left on the card, its an all or nothing scenario, so the only thing being withdrawn from the account was the $1 pre-authorization amount.
EDIT: I just want to clarify that I don't advocate stealing from anyone. This post was just referring to something I had done a while ago and as a result of my previous career in the point of sale industry, I wanted to explain how it worked. Don't steal, guys; it's a shitty thing to do.
HectorThePlayboy ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 18:36:40 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not a loophole, that's theft.
DoctorOctagonapus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:40:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah pretty sure that's bilking.
[deleted] ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 19:03:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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iOwn ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 19:07:43 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't matter if theres no way to prove it, it's theft. Just because you can get away with it does not make it acceptable.
Binxly ยท -18 points ยท Posted at 19:47:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tell that to oil/gas execs... they never steal or make income via dishonest practice...
I say doing this consistent makes you a jackass. Doing it when you NEED it ( between jobs or in financial hardship) then it's totally acceptable. Exxon and their ilk give a fuck if you can make rent or eat. So why the fuck should we care what giving them some of their own medicine will cause?
Two wrongs don't make a right but when Goliath is dishonest, I say David has a right to a cheap shot to their nards... don't gotta agree with me but I stand by this.
iOwn ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:52:35 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh it just gets better. You realize your only screwing your neighbor, right? Exxon got their money when it arrived at the station. I have some friends whose livelihood depends on the one or two stations they own. Your not putting it to the man and your reasoning is fucking insane and extremely distorted from reality.
Binxly ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 21:01:36 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Again, I did not condone it, only claimed the corporate white knight who came to shame the guy who mentioned in a pinch he took some gas was a dick and incorrect in assuming that the gas company is without sin or dishonesty.
I don't condone theft, but the guy I replied to acted as if the company was without sin, which I pointed out no party was innocent but certainly the company is not.
If you want to attack my intellect or make this a typical reddit post where an insecure teen/early 20 something has to pretend they are coming from a place of intellectual superiority or authority then by all means knock yourself out, I'm concerned on what I'm making for dinner, not what some kid on reddit thinks... sorry.
iOwn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:10:36 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am the other guy, genius.
Apparently I'm also an insecure teenager that holds some sort of intellectual superiority or authority as well. Go ahead and turn the cards and play victim, it's no wonder you have the 'all corporations are evil' mindset.
Go ahead and make dinner, how mature and responsible of you. One day I too hope I can make my own dinner.
iOwn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:13:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You seriously go around spewing this shit and are able to sleep at night? Really, read this and think about what you said here.
chiliehead ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:29:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But David is not shooting at Goliath. Heยดs ripping of his subordinates.
Binxly ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 20:33:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
....and the employees will complain, corporate will do nothing, employees will leave, and said corporate entity then will need to adapt and such will cause themselves to have to close their own loopholes as well in order to close the loopholes their customers use, in turn making themselves honest as well as the customer.
That or they do nothing and eventually fail and become a memory of a shitty company. Sorry, if your company isn't honest, you're a fool if you think I care about being honest and fair to your company.
FrigggOffRandy ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:18 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God forbid you steal from BP.hes so evil, jail this man!
HectorThePlayboy ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:43:39 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You realize BP got their money way before the gas got to the station, right?
FrigggOffRandy ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 01:45:28 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
U realize BP owns gas stations and that if you steal gas ur screwing over BP as a company.
HectorThePlayboy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:46:03 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uhh...no. Those stations are independently owned. Thanks for your expert insight.
FrigggOffRandy ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 01:50:30 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hahahahhaha you moron, if the gas station loses a profit and closes, BP would have one less gas station to sell gas to and lose money. Sick insight skills man
HectorThePlayboy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:53:13 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
BP doesn't sell gas directly to stations though. The stations you see with the name "BP" are licensing the name. BP sells their gas on an open commodities market. If you steal gas from a station, you are directly hurting a member of the local community and their family. Do your mental gymnastics to try and defend it, but at the end of the day you're a piece of shit.
FrigggOffRandy ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 01:55:34 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But yet, if BP gas stations close , BP won't make as much money. Is it really that hard to understand? If you cut off their buyer's you make them lose money, plain and simple. Less BP gas stations less money for BP. more gas stations more money.
Also no need to be a salty cunt cuz ur wrong that's just unnecessary kid
HectorThePlayboy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:57:03 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're so far out of touch with reality that I just....
Okay, I'm an idiot. Sorry. You win.
FrigggOffRandy ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 02:08:12 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha oh no fuck me ur right, less BP gas stations means a more profitable company, what was I thinking
quicksilver991 ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 21:23:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/hailcorporate
karter0 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:13:47 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't work for a lot of things like Spotify or Apple Music because they are subscription services
skineechef ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:17:37 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My first month of spotify was free, with a valid credit card. Same deal. These are ALL subscription services
chopstyks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:15:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I cancelled Amazon Prime when they jacked up the price. I have an American Express prepaid card from a rebate I got at Fry's earlier this year, and it's got about $4 dollars on it. I just got Prime on trial with it, and I'm about to go scope out some other services like HBO.
Thanks!
skineechef ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:18:06 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
HBONOW, not GO. Cheers!
chopstyks ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:14:31 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah that explains why it required me to sign up through my cable provider. You're the gift who keeps on giving. Thanks again!
skineechef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:07 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have HBO NOW on in another window as we speak! Unfortunately it does not work on pre-2015 Samsung smart TVs unless you have a Roku/Google Chrome device. Works great on my tablet and Desktop though.
An app for 2014 Samsung smart TVs may be on the horizon
chopstyks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:37:03 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't seem to work on the PS3 either. :( That box is my gateway to entertainment. I have a Roku in the bedroom, though, so maybe I should try in there.
skineechef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:38 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't used the Roku, just researched supporting formats. Roku looks to work, though. report back. :)
chowder138 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:44:10 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I use this for weird porn sites all the time.
stdfactory ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:45:12 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you use amazon regularly you can also use those low balance visa vanillas (or similar card) to load the remaining balance into your amazon wallet.
skineechef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:11 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hadn't thought to explore that. Thank you
ThisIsVeryDifferent ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:45:47 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I buy Amazon gift cards with mine when the balance gets low. That way around Christmas when we get multiple, I can put them all on our gift card balance.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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TardisTechnologist ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:01:52 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The point is if you don't intend on buying prime after your trial, as by default they will force you to unless you manually cancel it. The way the free trial works is that it verifies your card, gives you 6 months free, and then rolls into full paid prime and starts billing you automatically to that card. By using the $1 burner card, you don't have to worry about cancelling the free subscription just before it turns into a full subscription - you just let them bill it, the bill bounces, and they cancel your prime instead.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:19:33 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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Binxly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:21 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not everyone has free time or lack of stress to the point they can recall exactly when to cancel. This is a stress free way to enjoy the trial but not get dinged if you forget to disenroll.
Amazon knows this, hell, that's why 'free trials' exist and ask for a payment method:
They hope you forget to disenroll and once too late, assume you'll stay since it's not worth the hassle to cancel when you already paid, then, a year later, you forget again to cancel.... rinse and repeat.
Is it lazy? Yes. Genius? Yup. It's funny, in america, we don't even bat an eye to shady business practices from a company but once a civilian tries to exploit a similar loophole, everyone loses their minds...
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:00:03 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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skineechef ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:17:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's just one gift card. None of the above mentioned services are going to affect the (again, already low) balance on the card. The free trial is a "one off" anyway, unless you start doing new e-mails and the like. 1 card, all of these different free trials. I'm not over here saving up gift cards.
Binxly ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just think you're looking for a debate or argument. Honest advice: get offline and go somewhere quiet and figure out what really has you upset or wanting a fight.
Not being rude, hell, I had to do this very act myself Thursday night; but ii can sense there's more going on here than mere annoyance with the laziness of the internet...
skalskip ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:58:29 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well not always. I once got a free sample of coconut oil from thrive. The deal was you get a regular full size jar of coconut oil, but you have to sign up to the thrive market membership. I just wanted the coconut oil, and then I tried to cancel the membership. I went through the cancelation process in the account settings, and I thought I was done. Then I hadn't checked my fake email, so I didn't know that thrive didn't cancel my membership, and instead offered me half off the membership cost. When I got charged, cause I used my actual card rather than a burner card, I was pissed. I contacted them to get a refund and to cancel my account. They refunded me, but once again didn't cancel my account. Instead, they gave me a free month... so TLDR: canceling a Thrive market membership is a pain in the arse because they keep giving you new offers rather than canceling your membership when you ask for a cancellation.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:42:48 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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skalskip ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:06:26 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea but quickcatch12 was talking about canceling memberships, so I was giving an example of a time when it's inefficient to try to cancel.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:47 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can do the same without the gift card if your bank supports e-cards. Create a virtual credit card with $1 on it that expires in a month and use that. They can't even try to bill you for a subscription if the card expired during the trial period.
skineechef ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:19:47 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did the free trial for prime last year. I may remember incorrectly, but I thought they needed to verify a credit card
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:37:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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skineechef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't really buy a lot of stuff to ship, but they had a really good music service, and prime video had some movies I hadn't seen.
wesmamyke ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This doesn't work with Netflix free trials.
skineechef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:43 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I recall using this for all of my above mentioned examples, including netflix
Natatos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This was how I initially tried out Netflix so I know it did work, but I've heard that now they check with a higher amount.
Onmytablet2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So get your netflix month before spending the giftcard. Get $50 gift card, get the trial, then spend your $50 elsewhere.
edveda2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:23 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did this with Spotify back when they did the $1 for three months of premium thing. Ended up getting four months as they give one extra month for you to pay to continue the subscription and sort out the "errors" on my card... ;)
Yalnix ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:03:28 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Piggybacking off this... anyone got one I could borrow?
skineechef ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:11:47 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
one sec
dirtymoney ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:16:29 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
but, downloading torrented movies/tv shows is free?
I am a miserably cheap asshole and can't imagine spending money on something I can get for free.
skineechef ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is my answer any less of a loophole if you choose to torrent?
dirtymoney ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:16:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
IMO torrenting is soooooooooooooo much easier.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:18:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But illegal. That's a downside. Not a huge downside in this case, but definitely a downside.
Eddie_Hitler ยท 159 points ยท Posted at 17:46:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a pizza place near me which for a while only accepted delivery orders. That's right, you couldn't phone or order online for walk-in collection.
Unless... you order a delivery and put the delivery address down as the restaurant itself. People caught on to this and started doing it routinely, and the restaurant finally allowed walk-ins.
alyymarie ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 20:51:40 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But was there still a delivery fee?
happylaunch ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:16:16 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember when there were no delivery fees.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:05:57 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ah the good old days
AngryBigMac ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:36:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But why would anyone prefer going to the restaurant than waiting at home?
PSLWORK ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:10:30 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No surcharge for delivery
No tip for the driver
Usually get your pizza faster
iglidante ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:44:57 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I never order delivery because I don't have cash to tip the driver with, and don't want to tip someone to drive to my apartment when I'm ordering from a place 1-2 miles away (tops).
Autistence ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:37 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
$$$$$
shiplow ยท 424 points ยท Posted at 17:39:18 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're in that weird place where both of your parents make too much money for you to get grants and need-based scholarships but they also never saved for your education, get married! It sounds absolutely nuts but it works for a lot of people.
I went from a $45,000 EFC to a $0 and was rolling in grant/scholarship money. I saved myself over $100k in loans just by getting married to another student in the same situation. I was 19.
We spent $150 to get married and $400 to get divorced but we each got SO many grants each year that it didn't matter at all. We had a very short and concise prenuptial agreement. We just filled out the divorce paperwork together and signed with a notary.
soik90 ยท 84 points ยท Posted at 19:16:34 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is a good one. Is there anything to look out for while doing this? It seems that with the wrong person, this could bite someone in the ass.
[deleted] ยท 75 points ยท Posted at 19:34:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Marriages of Convenience have been a thing for many years (hell, and now, the sexes of the two people don't even matter) but I wonder if there is some potential for the grants being revoked (or even criminal charges) on some sort of fraud or false-pretense basis. Prenups aren't always bulletproof either, so I'd say only do it with someone you really, really trust.
Hows_the_wifi ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 23:46:43 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This sounds like the plot to a shitty romcom.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:40:00 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It already got a shitty Adam Sandler movie
aids1080phd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:17:32 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Staring selena gomez and zac effron in the hit movie the freshmen
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:01:07 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's usually a general concept of "bad faith" that if you get caught you can get in trouble for. The issue is, how do you get caught?
Anyway, for a legit version of this it's possible to get your parents to financially "dissown" you in Canada at least. You get them to sign paperwork that says "we will not be helping ____ with school costs" which fully qualifies the individual for all grants/bursaries.
I'm not 100% certain on how it's done, but I had a friend who was estranged from her family do it so she could apply for government loans.
respectthegoat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:06:47 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get a lawyer and make an iron clad prenup before doing anything else.
Midnight_Flowers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:38:18 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even the most iron clad pre nup can be thrown out.
shiplow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:33 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't marry a crazy/vengeful person. Otherwise if it's a mutually beneficial thing, it's fine.
lostmonkey70 ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 19:50:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This has to be illegal as fuck, but it's kind of brilliant.
well_hung_over ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 20:04:03 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And this kind of behavior is exactly what those who opposed gay marriage were "worried" about, yet it's done by straight people too, weird.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:27:32 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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well_hung_over ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:06:46 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm no lawyer, but I don't think they current marriage laws allow intra family marriage, so why would they write gay marriage laws so loosely that this would be a problem? Also the types of ultra rich families that might do this have good enough finance and lawyer teams to hide from these taxes well enough that I doubt they'd be rushing out to marry their sons.
Delduath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:42:18 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can, for the same reasons why we currently don't have daughters marrying their fathers.
That's so far from a legitimate point that I'm not totally sure whether you're just a bigot trying to justify your prejudices.
MechanicalEngineEar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:09:37 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i have no problem with gay marriage, that was just a point that I have heard before.
Delduath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:51 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not a point. It's as valid as those who say that allowing same sex marriage would open the door to interspecies marriage.
The logic literally isn't there. Marriage licenses aren't granted on the ability to give birth or those who are infertile wouldn't be allowed.
MechanicalEngineEar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:29:49 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://marriage.about.com/od/marriagelaws/g/incest.htm
The US currently outlaws marrying parents or other relatives due to issues of incest, but if the laws are changed to allow gay marriage, then incest is no longer an issue, so what would be the grounds against allowing marriage within the family unless the law was clarified specifically for tax evasion or inability to consent due to unequal power.
Delduath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:11 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How did you get to that conclusion?
MechanicalEngineEar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:56:45 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i guess i should clarify. incest isn't an issue in same sex marriages between family members. there would still be grounds for preventing a son marrying a mother or daughter marrying a father.
Once gay marriage was passed, it would set a precedent that would allow someone to easily oppose the existing laws which would prevent a son from marrying a father, as the reason opposing it was no longer law, so a new reason would have to be approved to maintain the legitimacy of the law.
Delduath ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:02:22 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a ridiculous train of thought. I'm still pretty sure you're a secret bigot.
MechanicalEngineEar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:48:10 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i'm not even saying it is my train of thought, it was an argument someone against gay marriage had, and in the sea of "it makes god sad" comments, it at least made some sense.
Ideally i think government and religion should have completely separate definitions of what marriage is. why should a religious ceremony suddenly allow a friend of someone to get healthcare through the first person's employer?
When i got married 2 years ago, we considered not formally getting married because my wife has an income based repayment program on her student loans, and by marrying, we pay significantly more towards her student loans than we would otherwise. looking deeper into it, it got even more complicated if we didn't get married and we didn't want to jeopardize a complex situation, so we decided not to rock the boat.
but go ahead and assume that this random person on the internet is lying about gay marriage. if you want to look through my history, i have admitted to views far more controversial than that, so I don't know why i would lie about this one.
Oshojabe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:07 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Legalizing gay marriage would not change any of the laws already on the books that prevent you from marrying an immediate relative. It may be the case that the justification for outlawing incest is to prevent inbred offspring, but it's still illegal to marry your parents even if your infertile, and it's still illegal to marry your parents even if you happen to be the same sex.
jhra ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:05:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a buddy that married his roommate in about 03'. They were in school and married for tax, loan, cheaper insurance, school lgbt incentives and to piss people off. They had to get divorced a few years ago because both of their to be wives are total buzzkills. Their motive was gay marriage was legal, and nobody is going to audit their lack of gayness so why not?
VelveteenAmbush ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:10:58 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
also same-sex marriage isn't legally restricted to gay people, it's just generally assumed that that is the target demographic
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:26 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not brilliant. It's insanely risky. There are plenty of stories of horrible divorces, and those are people who actually wanted to be married to each other. Just marrying some random friend solely for financial gain is ludicrous.
shiplow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:46 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not. Or at least it wasn't. We checked. We went to the same college and our financial aid officer knew we were doing it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:14 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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literallyhere ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:34:19 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It looks like marriage fraud only applies to immigration matters, not things like student loans or insurance.
shiplow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:28 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was in a romantic relationship with that person for 18 months before getting married. We already lived together. People get married for the tax benefits all the time.
Ragnrok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:04:44 on July 26, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why illegal? People have been marrying without love being involved for millennia.
cornham ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 19:54:40 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey anyone out there looking for a wife
EaterOfFood ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:50:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I'm looking for my wife. She's been gone for hours.
captainWobblez ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 00:19:34 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey its me ur wife.
MisterQuiggles ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:37:08 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hey its me ur brother
NeirdaE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:27 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, it's Jake from State Farm.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:28:18 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hey it's me ur cousin, let's go bowling
frznwsl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:37:34 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I could use some grant money
cornham ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:46 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey ;)
frznwsl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:02 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Grants and promotions for everyone!
frznwsl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:02 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Grants and promotions for everyone!
chowder138 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:49:28 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, wanna get married?
Sincerely,
Student with 10,000 in student loan debt.
Rawrsicles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:50 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
M'lady ;)
EpilepticMongoose ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:37:19 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're a genius. How did you figure this out?
shiplow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:01:35 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I googled how to become independent on the FAFSA and it said "turn 26 or get married." So I got married.
bearsito ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:31:34 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All this research talk is hurting my head.
radiantplanet ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:36:45 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really like this loophole. I thought I was a progressive thinker, but something like this never occurred bravo. When was this, how did it work out? Do you still keep in touch with the ex Mrs. Shiplow?
shiplow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:59:59 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This was in 2012 and we divorced earlier this year. We're still friendly but no longer in a relationship (romantically). We don't really keep in touch.
We broke up a year before we divorced but stayed civil because we agreed at the beginning that it was a marriage of opportunity.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:19 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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shiplow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:27:11 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FAFSA audited us. We just replied "No really, we're both students" and that was it. We went to a VERY small school. Everyone knew what we were doing. A few other people followed suit. We all had the same pre-nup. :)
f_n_a ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:54:31 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, I can attest that this is a sweet loophole. I went from being able to only get some unsubsidized loans, to pell grants and plenty of subsidized loans. I'm still married 15 years later, so we weren't trying to just use the loophole, but it was a sweet bonus.
bijouxette ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:44:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can also go part time (or get credits via community college for basic math and science classes) until you turn 24. At least when i was in college (10 years ago), the FAFSA took your parent's taxable income into your financial information. But only if you were 23 or younger. I was going part time up until I turned 24. I decided to switch into the BFA program instead of the AA and filled out toffee FAFSA. I was only working part time, just turned 24, so I was considered "poverty". I was on the Dean's List, so i got a small scholarship. But I did also get 3 government grants and my student loan total was less than $9000. I got an additional grant a week before a graduated... I was already covered and had an extra $1.98 on my student account do after I graduated, I got to collect a refund check of $1,800ish from my college for that last minute grant.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:59:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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shiplow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:14 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. Nothing negative at least.
TuckingFypoz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:16:21 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's genius - but is it immoral?
PMunch ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:46:07 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a European, the American school system is immoral. I pay $60 a semester to attend University and get five times that monthly (larger sum at the beginning of the year for buying books etc.) from the government for getting an education. You can also get a ridiculously cheap loan at about twice the sum of the grant if you want to.
Is doing this immoral, yes, should you care? Imho, no, they try to screw you, screw them right back.
shiplow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:22:43 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know. I kind of felt like it was immoral to expect an widow to contribute $45,000 a year towards my education when she was left with a house, a car, and three kids to raise for after dad died the year before. She only took home $65,000 a year after taxes (may sound like a lot to some but it's hard to survive on that in some cities). After all my dad's medical expenses there wasn't a lot of savings left over for college. This was my solution to get a degree. I guess I don't really care if it was immoral after all that fun we had. :) /rant
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:36:32 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes it is immoral because you are not actually living your lives as a married couple.
roshielle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:12:36 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup can vouch this works!
MrAcurite ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:47:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn
tkdbbelt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:57:50 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My husband and I married in college and he was finally able to get financial aid....but we married legitimately out of love. 10 years and 2 kids later, we are still broke though.
darpaconger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is the best LPT I've ever read. Brav[a|o].
Smellzlikefish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:32 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but did you get laid for it?
Yossi25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:31 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you guys have sex? I mean were you dating before? Are were you just 2 friends who wanted to game the system. This is a unique one.
shiplow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:54 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We were dating but broke up a year before divorcing. We did have sex but still emotionally categorized each other as boyfriend and girlfriend.
kidkrush ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:22 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If my parents knew about this I'd be in an arranged marriage right now
kagurawinddemon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:17 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you...did you comsenate this marriage?
Top_Wop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:47:10 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is a classic. My daughter does a similar thing. She won't marry her SO until the kids are done with college because they get much better deals with her being a single mother. Stick it to the man.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:57 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is she conveniently omitting the fact that her SO contributes to taking care of the kids? Particularly if they live together in the same household what she is doing is probably fraudulent.
Top_Wop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:02 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Quite the opposite. She makes more than her SO, since he's straddled with a big alimony payment, her income is more than his. She could also live without him, on her own, with her income alone. Nothing fraudulent involved.
Furar ยท 137 points ยท Posted at 17:36:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
When it comes to restricted college currency (that preloaded $$ on your ID that only works at x, y, z and the bookstore) you can just go to the bookstore and buy visa gift cards that work anywhere. I got $200 in booze money every semester doing this.
Edit: Bummer to those of you where this doesn't/didn't work :(
TheMaadMan ยท 75 points ยท Posted at 20:56:57 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like this one. This is great for those kids that want to spend their parents' money on movies, games, and a night out. Rather than laundry, cheap t-shirts and textbooks. Sounds like college!
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:50:16 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dunno where you're going that anything on campus would be considered "cheap". Even the fast food restaurants near the campus where I went to school had a 10-20% surcharge over everywhere else in the city.
TheMaadMan ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:57:37 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is true. The sandwhiches at the Wendy's at my uni is generally 10-20 cents more. However, the bookstores have racks, and I mean racks, of $5 t-shirts.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:02:13 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Weird, our bookstore just had university memorabilia that cost more like 20-30$ a shirt.
Everything about that damn place was designed to milk people of every last cent.
rupturedprostate ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:05:04 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
UT Austin right here.
poophead112 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:04:31 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cheap tshirts? In the bookstore? No way. The school apparel at my school is way overpriced. Like $50 for a single shirt. The Walmart down the road sells basically the same shirt for about $15. So unless you're buying the outdated clearance shirts that still have the old logo (we redesigned our logo last year) then you're not getting a cheap tshirt.
Delduath ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:38:49 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's because their primary market is teenagers who have just accepted the fact they will be in debt the rest of their lives and are also spending someone else's money.
Furar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:57:54 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I lived in a house so I didn't pay upfront for laundry, the school was in one of the wealthiest sections of DC so nothing was cheap and I had so many clothes back then that each year I would go through everything and donate a big bag to goodwill. That money came from the purchasing of any meal plan and was all loaded on by the university (yes understand it's really from tuition etc).
But if they were forcing myself and my parents to pay that money anyway I figured I might as well be able to spend the funds on my terms instead of being forced to only take my business to the overpriced and low quality "college" businesses.
Ragnrok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:17:31 on July 26, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Their parents money? What kind of rich fucking parents did you have? Everyone in college I knew was there on loans.
Beans_The_Baked ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:09:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not at my college :(
panchomay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:07:21 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mine just straight up worked for gas and booze at 7-11, after my first year retailers caught onto the visa card thing
Villyer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:20:02 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My college specifically stated that their money can't be used on gift cards, so I guess some places are not allowing this loophole.
TroubleInBankok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:00:55 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand this one. Could someone please explain? I have a card, how do I get unlimited money exactly?
Furar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:49:25 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At my former school with the start of every semester your student ID was preloaded with $400. $200 could only be spent on campus food locations but everything you bought was 15% off, $200 could be spent anywhere on campus plus surrounding community businesses and there was no discount. I lived in a house and cooked all my own food/only spent time on campus for class so the first $200 was more than enough to help with those snack cravings or coffee breaks throughout the semester. So I would take the other $200 and go to our bookstore (which sold visa gift cards) and buy $200 in the gift cards so that I could use that money wherever I liked (i.e. Beer, concerts, random Amazon shit I liked but wouldn't buy normally).
Those funds came with any meal plan purchase and my mom always insisted on getting me a meal plan (I got the lowest and cheapest option) so really I was just redistributing the allocated funds into a more suitable/spendable state vs. being forced to spend it at the boring pizza and burger shops around the area.
IamSoHandsome ยท 277 points ยท Posted at 16:20:44 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If the nachos are stuck together they count as one nacho.
dfigueroa110 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:25:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Remember that time in science class I was lightin farts with the Bunsen burner and singed my ballsack?"
CaitlinSarah87 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:02:15 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"I still can't grow hair on my left nut."
Ah, Saving Silverman references :)
JaggedToaster12 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:17:58 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same goes for pizza.
"Oops I meant to only grab one but this other one is stuck to it. Guess I gotta eat it too. Oh no."
TardisTechnologist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:09:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Finally a loophole I can actually use
irritabletom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:07 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what good nachos do.
MosquitoRevenge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obesity loophole?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:41 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Saving Silverman rules. I like it
insomniacmercury ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:22 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
totally kyle
DrPugPug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:20:48 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Could this be extended to I don't know, an entire plate of nachos? If it does I have figured out my new diet.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:11 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
give er the old sweeperoo!
Randymarsh12345 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:04 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You wanna be gay with me?
[deleted] ยท 831 points ยท Posted at 07:08:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 2023 points ยท Posted at 08:28:47 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every time I try this they end up kicking me out of the store at night. 0/10, does not work.
Mr_Zaroc ยท 213 points ยท Posted at 10:35:34 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You gotta hide until they close down and avoid the possible security guard, but make sure that you show up on their Videofootage so you can prove that you had this product in your cart for a day or two!
Old_Fat_White_Guy ยท 107 points ยท Posted at 14:11:35 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Instructions unclear, hid in shopping cart, was discovered in parking lot cart corral by police.
Stencils294 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:19:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They saw an Old_Fat_White_Guy was only 1 step away on Pokemon Go.
It wont work if you are closer than 2 steps because people will find you.
TerryTibbsTalkToMe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:27:18 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is obviously untrue, he was 3 steps away the entire time no matter how far you walk in any direction.
Stencils294 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:57 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Very true. I must be a repel since they are always too far away not matter what direction I'm going.
rtedesco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:30:54 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This sounds like the plot to Home Alone 2. How is Macaulay Culkin becoming relevant again?
ShyHero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Works best if you're a gorgeous girl in a white tank top riding a mechanical horse.
suckswithducks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:38:33 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a friend who did this in order to be the first in line to get Super Mario Sunshine. He worked at IGN for reviewing Nintendo games and now owns his own paper(I guess that's what it's called, I really don't know.)
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:00:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh hey, KenM!
thomowen20 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:24:04 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just do this at a 24hr Walmart or Meijer, then.
ghostfacekitty3 ยท 136 points ยท Posted at 07:17:32 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've tried this at multiple sites and have never been offered any sort of discount. How come?
godless-life ยท 179 points ยท Posted at 07:51:07 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Big vendors like Amazon, Wal-Mart etc. don't care, they've got enough turnover. Electronics stores usually have margins in the 2% range (on hardware, accessories are a different story) so they can't afford discounts.
Anything else sold by small-ish shops works, I got a 15% discount on a fishing rod once, and a couple of clothing items.
You need to be registered with the shop and logged in while putting stuff in your cart (just mentioning the obvious for completeness' sake).
[deleted] ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 12:20:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It works for some clothing stores, especially, since the margin on clothing is so high.
jheezecheezewheeze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:19 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
name some?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:02 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fast fashion or the more higher quality stuff?
GotMyOrangeCrush ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:46:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amazon does this, big time. If I put a product in my cart I start getting spammed with emails about it for days AND for related products. Buy a security camera? here's a sale on network cables....
Sean1708 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:03:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL Amazon just really hates me.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:38:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its funny you mention fishing rod, because Gander Mt, Cabelas, and Bass Pro all do this. I once got 20% off my $300 purchase online one time.
godless-life ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:40 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I got mine from Bass Pro as well while in Canada, good deal. And a good hint what margins they are able to pull off regularly.
NOODL3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:07:57 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't have to be registered or logged in. Most sites nowadays capture your email the second you type it into the box without any further clicks or input.
Source: work in digital marketing.
SickNDick ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:27:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What country?
planetofthegrapes ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 11:19:20 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It usually works at ThinkGeek.com, for instance.
Shaddow1 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:21:13 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
a 15% coupon on that site is equivalent to paying the normal price anywhere else. I know theres a circlejerk about it, but thinkgeek is seriously overpriced. At least it was when i last used it a few years back
another_programmer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:40:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've only seen this from zazzle.com
MohoMadness ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:38:07 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On Udemy, I looked at a course in Web Dev that cost $200, but didn't buy it. 2 days later I got an email offering it to me for $20. Bought it. Still haven't used it.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:00:44 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds an awful lot like Steam's business model. Sell people things they don't want at prices so low they'll buy it anyway.
IncendiaryGames ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:30:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It worked for me for a scuba shop. Got a $400 wetsuit for $200.
not_yet_a_dalek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:28 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also works to go to the checkout and then leave.
Did it unintentionally once when shopping for a washing machine, and an hour later I got a 100 euro discount code by mail.
DemeaningSarcasm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno. It doesn't work with a lot of hobby stuff. But if clothes are your thing, it works great. I did it at LL Bean and got a coupon on a pair of boots.
sparkle_dick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:01:38 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm still running on a free shoprunner account, I just kept ignoring their emails after cancelling a free trial until they said come back for free. I think they forgot though, I've had it for three years now
ghostfacekitty3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:02 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I won't tell.
Cosimo_Zaretti ยท 312 points ยท Posted at 14:57:34 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have been walking round a 24 hour walmart for 72 hours with a fishing tackle box, two oriental lampshades and a rice cooker in my cart.
None of the staff have noticed, much less offered me a discount.
I am almost out of meth.
few23 ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 16:48:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shuffle over to the cough syrup aisle and drank you a bottle of Tussin.
98acura ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:10:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you run out of tussin, put some water in the bottle and shake it up. Mo' tussin!
few23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:50 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
An then thump th bottle upside yo head- Tussin Percussion!
WVAviator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Robocop couldn't stop me from pukin' and flushin'
Lepthesr ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:12:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You need to check your email.
LeakyFrog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:54:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read that as 'and a nice hooker in my cart' -- I think I'm done for the day here.
kingeryck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:07:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey I'm sure you can buy some off someone while you're there.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:32 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you sure you're not actually just going circles in a McDonald's parking lot?
YouBoxEmYouShipEm ยท 77 points ยท Posted at 12:33:02 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did this by accident with my wedding dress at David's Bridal's site and got 10% off--a pretty significant discount!!
PurpEL ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 22:24:18 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
10% off of way too much for a dress is still way too much for a dress
Video_Game_Alpaca ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 11:16:52 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I keep my game on the wishlist in steam and use this to check when the game is on sale.
polarspur ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 15:42:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's less of a loophole and more of a feature
Gonzobot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:43:28 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I find specific developers will flood you with coupons if you own one of their titles, but not nearly a widespread thing.
Video_Game_Alpaca ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:15:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I downloaded RF4 due it was the only way to get in Europe and in my for you offers in nintendo eshop. I've got Lost valley 50% off to ยฃ17.50 Makes sense.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:07:33 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also use Ebates and search for online discount codes
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:11:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, make it a habit to always use Ebates or TopCashBack before buying anything online.
anotheracctdammit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:24:52 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Heard this tip many times.
Never received a discount code, despite years of "window shopping" online and abandoning carts full of stuff I can't afford
DeadlyUnicorn98 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:34:02 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes, that TV as for Barclays or something
Lokmann ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes! I did this once by accident. I was buying a couple of vinyl records and ps3 games from amazon and one of the record was out of stock. I contact amazon and the rep is really nice and tells me it will be a couple of days until they get more so I wait and while I wait with all the items in my cart they drop all a couple of pounds each wound up saving some 30 pounds over all.
NotGreatBob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:21 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This just happened to me two days ago and blew my mind. Ended up getting a 15% new customer code bumped up to a whopping 25% off!
ViceroyFizzlebottom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:00:59 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did this once over 10 years ago. I put a home star runner hoodie in my cart, forgot about it for weeks or months. Stumbled across it and for some reason the price was listed as $0. Ordered it with free shipping and it arrived a week later.
pbpedis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I discovered this too by accident. Williams Sonoma is good for this sometimes. 25% off.
TuckingFypoz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:09:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Would that work for ebuyer.com?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:44 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True of some sites but I work on ecommerce sites and all we do is sent you a "Hey, did you forget this, numbnut?" email.
vimescarrot ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:41:45 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I put a webcam in my cart on Amazon during prime day, but never bought it because Amazon is shady as all fuck holy shit.
Every day since then, I've been getting adverts to buy it. The price has dropped, day by day.
OssianOG ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 23:49:33 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Night's Watch vow doesn't specifically say that you can't have sex.
AmericanOSX ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:37:10 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, if you die, but then rise from the dead, technically you have fulfilled your vow and you're free to go do as you please.
lasttimewasabadtime ยท 463 points ยท Posted at 07:44:52 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A fish and chips meal is $10.99 at this grocery store I shop in. An extra piece is $5.50, if you say no to fries, you can get a 3rd piece of fish and then just purchase a side of fries at $2.50.
[deleted] ยท 334 points ยท Posted at 09:25:18 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This sounds like a description for the best day of Karl Pilkington's life.
voidvector8 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 11:45:05 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's missing the munchies and his boiler being fixed.
laffiere ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 11:26:54 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"it's just a fookin' fish, why does it have to be this expensiv'? I don't get it. Look at that lad over there, enjoying his ice cream cone, I could have gotten 5 of those for the same price as this plate of this stupid fish. Here I try being healthy, like they tell you to do, and here I am misserable wishing I was that cunt over there with the ice cream cone. This chips aren't even that fookin' good. [cameraman says from behind the camera] "if you ask for no chips they'll give ya an extra piece, and you can just buy chips on the side and save some quid". You having a laugh? Did Ricky tell you to tell me this? Just for that stupid fookin' show to dissapoint me and satisfy his sadistic side? [cameraman] "no Karl, look at the pricing and do the math". Ricky set you up to this didn't he? [Karl in Ricky's voice] oh look at me, UGH UGH hit's chest I am confused by little numbers (Frowns dissapointedly; scoffs, turns around and goes to the disk to buy some fish & chips; get's cheap fish & chips).
It's actually cheaper when you act like a twat and jump hoops. Then why didn't they just fookin' sell it at that price before? Doesn't make any sense man'. If I had gone up there, got the exact same stupid fish, and the same stupid chips, it would've been more expensive. Why can't everyone just sell it at what they want to sell it at? All these cunts just want to rip ye' off. [Cameraman from behind the camera] "are you enjoying yourself Karl?". (Karl angilly express) of course I'm fokkin' happy, I want my fish, but I want it for the same fokkin' price
Blatters_PA ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 12:57:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This sounds nothing like Karl
Nambot ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:04:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you try reading it with his voice?
Stencils294 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:23:08 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
u/Laffiere should try being from Manchester he'd get it right then.
Edit: Hope I dont sound arseholey. Not my intention.
Teb-Tenggeri ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:38:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, he doesn't often say stupid
Sirthatal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:56:20 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Too many words.
lickmybrains ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 14:09:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Save some quid" lol
DoktorSoviet ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:40:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let's be honest, sadistic is too big a word for Karl.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:56:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wha' I'm sayin' is. . .
james___uk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:30:20 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm gonna watch an Idiot Abroad season 2 now. Oh btw his AMA was excellent
PMyouMooningME ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:32 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He pronounces his name "Kal".
theFunkiestButtLovin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
perfect
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:03 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Best? Can you imagine how pissed off he'd be that they're pricing it in dollars?
brblol ยท 112 points ยท Posted at 10:33:57 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
10.99 for fish and chips? Do you live in the Sahara desert?
cheez_au ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 16:17:45 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that's fucked. Even with flake (the most expensive fish), my shop does flake, chips and a can of drink for $10.00
Also the whole world needs flake.
rocntenr1 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 17:13:54 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Upvoted because the phrase " can of drink" made me smile
daftputty ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:46:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can I have one if I say "tin o' pop" - which is what we would say...
daftputty ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:34:55 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yay :)
Conner-Bosley ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:00:27 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just curious what country calls them tins? :O
lego_hobbit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:51:17 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A tinny. More directed at beer though. Australia and the UK.
MechanicalEngineEar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:30:37 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
can of coke.
what type of coke?
Dr. Pepper
is Pibb Xtra okay?
Do you have rootbeer?
no.
Pibb is fine...
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:19:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Huh? This whole exchange is confusing the hell out of me. I live in NC, US, and a good fish to use around here for fish and chips would be a flounder or snapper. Both can run between $10-20/lb. filet at the grocery store. At a restaurant, it would easily be twice that price per pound for a prepared dish, so I would expect a nice Fish and Chips(.5 lb filet) to be at least $10 up to 20 or 30 depending on the restaurant. Are you all British?
cheez_au ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:48:48 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah a fish and chip shop is basically a deep fryer and a cash register mate. Think the type of food you'd get out of a lunch truck.
Your choice of fish here is cheap but delicious. Flake (shark) is a very popular option in Aus, but a fillet is around $6 now.
If you want something more fancy you go to a bistro, such as your local pub or the Russell
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:43 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah okay, thanks for clarifying. It's cool that you have those there in Aus. Here in the States, for $6, there's fast food fish and chips like Long John Silvers but nothing that's actually good. I need to get out there and check out the Flake.
thefeelofempty ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:15:32 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
such a great description of the beverage :P i'll bet the flavour is often purple isn't it?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:42:25 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get it, is that an odd thing to say? Many fish n chip or chicken shops in Australia advertise 'can of drink' as included with the meal it's the usual coke, sprite etc.
thefeelofempty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:45:04 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i'm just bustin' OP's chops ;) I've never heard of a beverage referred to as a "can of drink" personally, but it doesn't mean it's wrong :)
trashchomper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:26 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just out of curiosity what do you call it? A beverage? Sounds so formal
subkulcha ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:25:43 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The whole world needs dim sims.
redditmethisonesir ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:20:32 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.doyles.com.au/pdf/WHARF%20MENU.pdf
kmmontandon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:16:44 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I regularly get a $20 three-piece of fish and chips, but it's incredibly good beer-battered fish (not cod, but I don't remember what they use) at a decent restaurant. It's also the only worthwhile fish and chips within about 80-100 miles.
workingnights ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:37:03 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mushy peas or curry sauce?
kmmontandon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:47:11 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm American, we don't do either.
LeSamouraii ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:48:11 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Close, I live in California and it's bleedin' 14 dollars for fish and chips.
SamuraiAlba ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 12:16:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Another weird point. Sahara MEANS desert :P
It's literally "Desert Desert"
Also, easy tip for knowing how to spell desert. STRESSED spelled backwards is Desserts
beepbeepitsajeep ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:56:47 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That tip doesn't tell me how to spell desert it tells me how to spell desserts.
Half_Blind ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:31:47 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Another tip for remembering how to spell desert. Dessert has 2 S's because you want more of it.
FiveAiur ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:44:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I never understood why people got confused by this; the spelling is already very intuitive. Given that you can pronounce it you pronounce dessert as deszert and desert as desErt.
CitizenCold ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:00:34 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Speak for yourself! I love me some sand.
pm_me_ur_wet_pants ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 14:01:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why would it be cheap in the sahara? Wouldn't be heaps expensive?
Stevey854 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:44:35 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
10 for fish and chips is expensive m8
silian ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:44:29 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
10.99 for a single piece fish and chips is pretty pricy, atleast around here and food is not cheap here as a rule of thumb. Maybe at a fancy sitdown restaurant or something.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:42:08 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Where the fuck do you live where one piece of fish is over $5?
TheScienceNigga ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:22:42 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Where the hell do you pay $11 for fish and chips? That's just highway robbery.
itz4mna ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:54 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've paid ยฃ6 for cod and chips, it's utter bullshit.
Esoteric_Erica ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:51:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, if you ever find yourself in a situation where you want to order two toasted egg sandwiches, it is always cheaper to order the breakfast (2 eggs, bacon etc) and a side order of toast, and make your own - plus the bonus of getting the bacon and other sides with the breakfast. I did get caught once, placing an egg on the toast, and the waitress insisted on charging me for two toasted egg sandwiches, so I lost that one, but I'm well up overall.
Corvese ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 16:32:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait what, seriously? Did you actually pay up? That sounds pretty retarded that a restaurant could charge you more for the way you eat your food.
thomowen20 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:34:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
With me it would have come down to this one statement, "If you insist on charging me for the wrong meal, the difference will be coming out of your tip."
Esoteric_Erica ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:03:41 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Imagine if I'd have made two toasted egg AND bacon sandwiches out of my breakfast - imagine how much extra that coulda cost?
GotMyOrangeCrush ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:56:19 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then if you pay with a $20, then stop and ask for change for a $10, maybe $5 and five ones, then put it all on the counter, and ask for change from the original, twice, and insist you never got your change. Free fish.
Sean1708 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:09:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now I just need to know which grocery store you shop at and we're golden.
Edit: What sort of fucking grocery store serves fish and chips?!
kingeryck ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:09:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You used to be able to get 12 nuggets at McDonald's for $3 by just getting 3 $1 4-pieces. They sold a 10 piece for like $4.99 or something. Unfortunately they've caught on and just offer a 20-piece for $4.99 now and 4-pieces for like $1.50+.
peanutpompom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:32:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you really have fish and chips in America?
lasttimewasabadtime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:52 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah and also sushi
Wilileaks ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:11:02 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fish and chips suck. It don't taste bad, but fish and chips are like white cars, without personality. Just a meh food.
z500 ยท 1623 points ยท Posted at 09:47:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Many items can be purchased with nothing more than a handgun.
JustSeanAgain ยท 513 points ยท Posted at 11:48:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And you get to keep the hand gun too! What a steal
Buildadditionalpyons ยท 220 points ยท Posted at 13:14:05 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes you have to spend a couple of bullets though. ยฏ\(ใ)/ยฏ
DeonCode ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 15:59:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's OK. The items being purchased are ammunition.
BlindfoldedNinja ยท 121 points ยท Posted at 17:18:32 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You gotta spend bullets to make bullets
โพโโคใโฆ๏ธปยฏ\(ใ)/ยฏ๏ธปโฆโคโ
Stencils294 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 18:21:17 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop throwing guns.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:08:35 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop throwing
Mildly-disturbing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:51:25 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stop
pyrusbrawler64 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:12 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sto
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:24 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
S
TheGeraffe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:23 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
c
oodsigma8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:37:57 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
iBuypower
avixk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:28:17 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But how was the first bullet made if it requires other bullets?
BlindfoldedNinja ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:48:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The first bullet evolved from a simpler organism called projectus-bolisticus
CrazyKirby97 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:21:49 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What came first? The gun or the bullet?
avixk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:44:09 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
mind = blown
Llasiguri ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:23:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You used the \ correctly, i respect you now.
crashing_this_thread ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:53:17 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No worries. All blood spilled is just more blood for the blood God.
Darth-Pimpin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:06 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know it has to be annoying to be told this twice, but you need more slash to get the desired result. I don't know why exactly, but one slash looks like this:
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
This leaves you missing a forearm. It often will lead to "you dropped this" chains.
Two(what you did) like this:
ยฏ\(ใ)/ยฏ
That leaves you missing both of your shoulders.
And three(the proper way) like this:
ยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
So from now on, when working with reddit, be extremely redundant.
thomowen20 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:35:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And you always get a 100% discount!
lexushelicopterwatch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:37:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What a steel.
SmellyPenis69 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 12:55:37 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And if you don't wanna deal with legal consequences (or didn't having a handgun yet), a blowjob works well.
mankerayder ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:44:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even with a SmellyPenis?
YellowJalapa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:00:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Especially
PC509 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:26:59 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mph humph vrumpf.
Sorry... that doesn't work, apparently.
AshtarB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:45:23 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Donald Drumpf
pm_me_your_cuck_pics ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 11:12:50 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hello sir, I would like to buy a handgun. Also now some bullets. Checkmate.
bearsnchairs ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:55:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, complete this background check and enjoy your waiting period.
pm_me_your_cuck_pics ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:04:33 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's called the long game
Ecchi_Sketchy ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:23:05 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Five days!? But I'm mad now!
Li0nhead ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:15:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not advisable if you look a bit Muslim.
stillinlovewitredead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:32:43 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
arnold did it
The_Dudes_Rug_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:08 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"purchased"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:47:37 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice job of ripping off a comment from a similar thread.
z500 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:55:05 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
;)
_Holic_ ยท 1513 points ยท Posted at 06:10:31 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you want to go on vacation in Vegas and have some savings, put like 20 grand in a casino's hotel account. They will comp you a room and maybe more.
Take out 5 grand a day and see the sights. They will assume you are wasting it at their casino.
dicksmear ยท 2684 points ยท Posted at 12:42:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
finally, a life hack for people vacationing in Vegas with $20k+ in savings.
Li0nhead ยท 433 points ยท Posted at 13:08:54 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
About time society benefited the rich....
We should hold charity fundraising events for the super wealthy and multinational corporations.
GrumpySteen ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 16:19:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We do that twice a year in the USA.
Li0nhead ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:35:08 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We do that in most of the world through our tax systems daily.
OldBeercan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:34:15 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think u/Li0nhead just forgot the /s
oh-just-another-guy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:30:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
$20K savings makes someone rich? :-)
Li0nhead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:36:01 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It does if you have $20k at hand as you would have plenty more tied up in pensions etc.
eye_can_do_that ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 14:24:04 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
$20k is not rich
[deleted] ยท 329 points ยท Posted at 14:39:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you bring $20 k to spend on a 4 day trip to Vegas you had better be rich.
[deleted] ยท 169 points ยท Posted at 14:44:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But you're not spending it. You're just moving it between accounts to reap the benefits of being comped. Take out 5k, deposit it back into savings. Rinse and repeat while enjoying free hotel perks.
boneyjellyfish ยท 146 points ยท Posted at 15:32:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most people don't have 20K that they can just move around. Hell, most people don't even have 5K that they can just move around.
TehFourthman ยท 102 points ยท Posted at 16:02:57 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Most people in the US don't have $400 to just move around. It's a sad state of affairs.
Edit: Added link and switched $500 to 400 because I didn't quite remember the specifics of the FRB report I read.
fareven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:54 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Welcome to the 21st century. People used to manage resources, now we manage debt.
nbqt2015 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
shit I don't even have $20 ๐ฉ
SlowRollingBoil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:52 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't have $20 in your wallet, checking or savings account? What do you do for a living?
nbqt2015 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:20 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
student ;w;
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:25:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i have a job but by the time the paycheck comes, bills are due and end up with sub-$50 most of the time
SlowRollingBoil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You need to reduce your expenses or else you will always live paycheck to paycheck. Find out what you can do to increase earnings as well, of course.
Slizzard_73 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:50 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair most people aren't very good with their money. The mindset of the average american isn't to save as much as you can for the future; it's about the opposite.
CoonLover ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:55:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most people in the US don't have $50 to just move around. It's a sad state of affairs.
rallets ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:12:54 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most people in the US don't have $5 to just move around. It's a sad state of affairs.
-hey_its_me- ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:35:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most people in the US don't move around. It's a sad state of obesity.
Nathanman123 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:33:39 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most people in Africa don't have any money to move around. Woopty do, not everyone is rich!
Superb_Herb ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:50 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Comparing US to Africa is not the same
Nathanman123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You act like everyone is supposed to be rich. That's not how the world works buddy.
pixel_dent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:56:49 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If even 1% do though, that's millions of people in the US alone.
Necoras ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 16:32:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not especially difficult to do if you do it over a few years. $1-200 per month plus some from any bonus/tax refund/other non constant income will get you to 20k without a ton of effort.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:25:35 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Im assuming you have zero dependents. It's hard to save when you have kids.
Necoras ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:34:39 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a 9 month old. I'm saving less than I did last year (if you don't count 401k), but not nothing.
Rhythm825 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:42:39 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously? That's just sad.
[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 16:19:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People should manage their money more efficiently.
notjawn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:55:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know there are things such as fees and taxes. It really is a terrible idea on it's feet you'd blow so much extra money just trying to get comps when you get those plenty if you'd just spend time in the casino but manage your winnings so you don't go home in the negative.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:59:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't my idea in the first place. Do casinos have fees for opening accounts?
notjawn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:17:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some of them do but usually they restrict it to only using it in the casino. State taxes winnings at 30% and your bank that you're gonna send it from is going to charge you to take it out and put it back in every-time you transfer. I just think it would be a lot of work just to spend money and of course the casino would figure it out the first time you did it and no doubt would kick you out.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:29:50 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd have to see a breakdown of fees vs rewards to know if it's actually worth it, but you're right. It seems like it's a lot more work than it could wind up being worth.
notjawn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:15 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I think the better idea would be just set a limit on how much you want to gamble then deposit that to get the comps beforehand. It's what I do when I go on gambling trips but I'm just a small fry slots player.
chronicwisdom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:11 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your bank might have fees for moving that much money around twice in the same few weeks/month as well.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:11:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just bought a house. Transferred a sizable amount of money from online savings to checking and withdrew it as a secured check. They charged me ten bucks.
chronicwisdom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh that's not bad I just honestly had no idea. I'm still in the accruing massive student loans part of my life cycle, got a few years before paying them off and buying a house is an issue.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:51:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry, you'll have plenty of things to pay for in addition to those!
sizko_89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:13:43 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but still...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:07 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ten bucks is ten bucks....
chronicwisdom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:51:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you have 20k liquid to use in that manner you're doing better than 90โ of people anywhere. It's a great scam, but if you've got 20k liquid you probably don't need it. I'm 30 and I don't have any friends who could do that with their own money (if your dad can lend you 20k for the weekend you're not exactly tly hard up either). Not that my friends are unsuccessful either, I know several home owners and a few business owners, but that's where their 20k in Vegas money went, useful investments they can't cash in for a weekend of gambling and shows.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:10:03 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Having 20k liquidity is excessive, but if you take one vacation a year and plan ahead in anticipation of trying this scam, it's something a person could pull off.
Me personally? I'd be making sure I had fully funded Ira contributions, debt settled etc. I'm careful with my money.
eye_can_do_that ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:03:36 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They aren't spending it. They are temporarily moving it to make it look like they will spend it.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:22:34 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you have 20 grand to move around you aren't doing too badly.
Jay_Highland ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 15:58:06 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Having $20k is far from rich. They might be comfortable in life but that is not rich or close to it.
IveHuggedEveryCatAMA ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:10:42 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"comfortable" looks like rich when most people are uncomfortable
Jay_Highland ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:56:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is a fair point.
I use to be an account manager for a mutual fund company and I would look at hundreds accounts a day. Lots and lots of people have at least $20k stashed in their savings that are your regular everyday people like teachers or construction workers. They just work hard and save their money. If I didnt have kids, I could probably put $20k away each year if I rolled back my lifestyle to frugal.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:24:03 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you can budget $5000 a day on a vacation you are rich or incredibly stupid. No one who is merely comfortable should be able to spend $20k in 5 days on a vacation.
Jay_Highland ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:44:55 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am not saying it is a smart move or even feasible but there are lots of people that have $20k in liquid assets that are not rich.
I strongly disagree with people merely comfortable not being able to spend $20k on vacation. There are lots of people who want to save their money for something and they do. For some people, that is a really nice vacation. Would you say someone who has $20k to purchase a car outright is rich? Because I have friends who do that and they are not rich, they just save their money and work a lot.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:43:14 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A car is a physical good only very wealthy people spend $20k on a 4 day vacation
Jay_Highland ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:31:12 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're pretending to know what is important to people. What they spend the $20k on makes no difference. I use to do mortgages and about once a month I took an application from someone whose car payment was either 50% of their income or close to it. I remember a married couple who made a combined $1800 and their two car payments were $900 because they both had used Beamers. When I told them they would have to sell their cars, they refused. They picked driving cars way out of their budget in lieu of buying a house. My point is, a 4 day vacation could be the most important thing to spend the money on to some people like a house, a boat, car, or renovations to their home. Having that $20k does not necessarily mean they are even wealthy. Chances are, they are wealthy but you could certainly be middle class and do that if you saved for it. I am not saying it is smart but after working in banking and finance for 15 years, you would be surprised the things people spend their money on.
PolarBearBeats ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:42:33 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd say people that can drop ยฃ20k on a holiday are quite well off.
whatIsThisBullCrap ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:52:04 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're not spending 20k on the vacation. You put 20k into an account, then slowly move it back so the hotel thinks you're spending 20k
eye_can_do_that ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:03:07 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They aren't spending it. They are temporarily moving it to male or look like they will spend it.
PolarBearBeats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:39:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, misunderstood :D
Li0nhead ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:49:20 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OK you got $20K to give me?
afihavok ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:53:40 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
having 20k cash on hand is rich
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:37:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Two thirds of Americans have less than $1k in savings.
$20k is fucking rich.
eye_can_do_that ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:19:46 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most of America should have 20k. Having 20k in a savings doesn't mean you are rich but you are living within your means and saving for your next car, a house, college, retirement.
If you don't have an emergency fund maybe you shouldn't be taking a vacation to Vegas.
The rich will have a lot more than 20k.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:11 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Check my statistic. Most (by a large majority) don't have $1k.
FUKINGSTOPIT ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 17:14:57 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eh I dunno if I can stick to that thrifty 5k a day in Vegas budget tho, i mean I gotta eat too
notjawn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:52:42 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The most under-served population really.
not_yet_a_dalek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:59 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So
Step 1: Take out a $20k loan
Step 2: Holiday for 4 days in Vegas
Step 3: Repay loan + about 7 days interest
Would the interest be less than the room would cost?
Dewgong550 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:28 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on the rate. Find out the rates and do the maths
screenwriterjohn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:50:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right? If you have twenty grand in cash, why would you care about a free room?
PM_ME_YOUR_SECRETZZ ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:27:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Twenty grand in cash doesn't make you rich. I'm sorry
dirtymoney ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:54:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I make a whopping $23,000 a year and I have more than $20,000 in cash (that I worked for and saved/put int he bank) over the years. One year I worked seven months straight without a day off. For many years (when i worked full time) I was putting on average ...$6,000 a year into my savings.
I am a miserably cheap asshole who lives a frugal life and lives in a place where it doesnt take a lot to live off of. My monthly expenses are about $800-900 and I earn in $1,400 a month (take home). The extra goes into my savings.
TrueBlonde ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:18:47 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't get rich by spending money
screenwriterjohn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Investing, though.
piepi314 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:45:37 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
$20k in savings doesn't make you anywhere close to rich. Hotel rooms are expensive and getting them for free is a huge help.
screenwriterjohn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Off strip hotel like the Stratosphere is about $60 a night.
piepi314 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:31:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And that's a lot of money. A five night stay would be $300 which is no small sum even with $20k in savings.
Thanos_Stomps ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:03:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
because it is free and those rooms are costly
DeliSammiches ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:28 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a vegas resident, if the rooms are costly you are doing something wrong. For example; non peak season, non weekend bookings, and staying off the strip typically make rooms much cheaper. If you stay at the place you wont be sacrificing quality, in fact sometimes off the strip is better because they have less foot traffic and offer amazing deals to get you in the door. Green valley ranch, south pointe and red rock resort come to mind as quality off strip locations. Sure they have less bells and whistles, but they make up for it in other ways.
Thanos_Stomps ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:00:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just meant rooms in general are costly, at least for me, but if I had 20k I still would like to save on rooms because that means I could spend that money on fun things.
Honestly though I am only in my twenties and have never paid for a room, maybe once or twice and on staycations. I have been to England, Ireland, Chicago, and NYC plus am going to DC soon to visit friends and have always been fortunate enough to know people who allow me to stay there. But each time it is always nice being able to budget a vacation and not having to include lodging and less eating out.
Broken_Blade ยท 244 points ยท Posted at 07:20:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On this note, the companion book to Archer has a how-to section on the Sterling Archer Triple-A Power Play (The triple-A stands for Awesome Awesome Awesome.)
Step one: Get $10,000 from somewhere.
[deleted] ยท -72 points ยท Posted at 09:13:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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SickNDick ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 09:24:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wat
audscias ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 14:07:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean...I understand the words, but they make no fucking sense in this order.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:26:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you're looking for /r/nocontext.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:43:31 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, this doesn't make sense with context either
daneguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:09:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/evenwithcontext then?
Dewgong550 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:39:07 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously what do you mean?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:54 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You just have replied to the wrong guy
Firecrotch2014 ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 18:05:32 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At most places that wont work if you are looking to get a bunch of comps. They give you alittle credit card thing that tracks exactly how much you play.(for slots at least - i think they can be used at table games too by tracking the time you spend at the table.) Comps are very formulaic now a days. You spend X amount of money entitles you to Y amount of comps. Sure the hotel can always hand out a few freebies here and there but to get consistently good comps youll need to spend actual money since they can track it all now.
bg-j38 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:26:09 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I have a friend who like 20 years ago would go to a casino and before checking in open a huge line of credit. Like middle five figures. (He was a very well paid sales guy so it wasn't too difficult.) Then he'd go check in, they'd see his line of credit, and upgrade him, comp him stuff, etc. He'd never really use most of that. But that stopped being effective in the early to mid 2000s.
InteriorEmotion ยท 81 points ยท Posted at 10:35:36 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't tell if this is an Archer reference or a legit LPT.
Soulbrandt-Regis ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 11:52:28 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just remember to get a receipt!
iamyourcheese ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:08:06 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Little column A, little column B.
my-stereo-heart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:55:55 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was literally thinking this
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 12:53:47 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you just transfer 5 grand to your bank account, and later transfer it back (in different values of course)
fdsdfg ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 16:05:02 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. It's not clear in what Holic said, but the $5k you take out every day is not $5k that you will spend seeing Vegas. It's probably $4800 you put back into your bank's savings account, and another $200 to see the sights, gamble a bit, and eat.
XAM2175 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:54:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think OP means it should look to the hotel like you're blowing it gambling, which would mean withdrawing cash, or debiting the account for chips that you then exchange for cash, after which you move the money back to your real account.
But I have zero experience in these matters so I could be way off the mark.
Zerotan ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 14:24:02 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It isn't clear that you don't want people to spend $5000/day seeing the sights.
WVAviator ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:41:19 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Grand Canyon tours get expensive these days.
segue1007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:24:18 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, it's pretty clear.
dirtymoney ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:01:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it shows those people arent money-minded.
Magile ยท 124 points ยท Posted at 12:52:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A better tip is to not vacation to vegas. Its not nearly as interesting as youd think.
[deleted] ยท 174 points ยท Posted at 12:57:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate the Vegas scene, but Vegas is awesome because of its location.
If you're not into gambling, you have a 2 hour drive to the Grand Canyon, a 2 hour drive to Zion national park and a 45 minute drive to Hoover Dam. Grab dinner and a show in the evening and explore during the day.
G0PACKGO ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 16:41:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and like 20 minutes from red rock
TrueBrees9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:35 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also like 20 minutes from Valley of Fire
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:06:47 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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diablofreak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:55 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the privately operated section with the glass overlook skywalk is closer. But that shit is crazy expensive.
Normal state park entrance at the North rim, yeah at least four hours away
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:00:11 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The South and North Rims are each a 4-hour drive from Vegas. The Skywalk, which is not part of Grand Canyon National Park, is 2 hours from Vegas.
The Skywalk is also the biggest ripoff in existence. Don't take my word for it, read TripAdvisor.
First, that 2-hour ride is in a bus on a barely graded dirt road. I think it's $80 to get in, and the Indian tribe that runs it confiscates your camera if you want to take photos on the Skywalk, which is basically the whole point of going there.
You see, they're afraid you might drop your camera into the canyon. Fortunately, they have their own photographer on site who'll be happy to take a photo of you for a fee. The Indians even stiffed the poor contractor who built the damn thing, finding some bullcrap tribal loophole to cheat him out of its $30 million cost. He ended up dying without collecting a penny.
Seriously, if you're ever in Vegas and want to see the Grand Canyon, please avoid the Skywalk. Rent a car and take the extra couple of hours to go to the official visitor center at either rim.
_random_passerby_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:14:15 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can't blame them. They learned soon enough that people will fuck you over if they can despite it hurting you. The world isn't your friend.
diablofreak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:53 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now that everyone has a smartphone will they confiscate your phone too? And iPads? And my gopro strapped my chest?
crumpledlinensuit ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 22:26:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think what you mean is "Native Americans". The vast majority of Indians live on the other side of the planet to the Grand Canyon, so are unlikely to be involved in running the Skywalk.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:40:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for the English lesson. Now take your pedantry and shove it up the first sentence of the tribe's own Welcome statement.
diablofreak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:39 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How in the hell are they a dot gov website?
CAPSLOCK_USERNAME ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:44:36 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who wants to go on vacation to spend 4 hours of their day driving a car to the parts they're actually interested in?
shokalion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:11:48 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As someone from the UK, a four hour drive is usually more than the time we'd drive to get to the holiday destination from where we live.
To go four hours out from where you're staying for a day trip? Must be mad!
DeeDeeInDC ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:38:32 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What exactly do you do at a dam and the Grand Canyon for a day?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:06:15 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Zashiony ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:07 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's beautiful to people who see tall buildings all the time as well. Seriously, nighttime cityscapes just blow me away sometimes.
Todojaw21 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:52:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can go to all of these places and more by playing fallout...
SavvySillybug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
New Vegas is best game.
mommyraccoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:32 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This exactly. My husband and I flew into Vegas so we could drive out to Zion and Bryce. Little did I know he would end up proposing to me at the top of Angels Landing in Zion. Fucking amazing!!!!! We did one show in Vegas to say we did something there (and won $35 in slots...wahoo!), but that was the extent of our excitement there. Just a stepping stone to cooler stuff.
jkelleyrtp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Vegas landscape and surrounding areas is amazing. Even if you don't care for the 'Vegas Scene,' many of the shows are actually really good and the sights in the city like the super fancy hotels and gardens are fun to tour.
ghillieman2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:59:01 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who played new vegas this is awesome. I cant wait to go to vegas
SquireSancho ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 13:05:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. Vegas isn't that great for gambling, either. Paradise is where most people go.
SydtheKydM ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 14:00:28 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah yeah yeah, everyone has seen CGP Grey's videos. They're technically not the same but it's still Vegas.
Reasonable-redditor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:19:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like saying people never go to Los Angeles. The mostly go to the city of Santa Monica or West Hollywood.
pickledad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:42:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who is cgp grey? I've never heard of that?
SydtheKydM ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:46:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://m.youtube.com/user/CGPGrey
Great educational YouTube channel.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:28:15 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why'd you have to link it? I just got sucked into watching a ton of his videos you assholesarcasm
Groundloop ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:00:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which, c'mon, is basically Vegas.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:28:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How did I never know this? LPT of the thread right here
Intotheopen ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 13:13:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Vegas is a ton of fun, it just should only be done in about 3-4 days tops. Longer is a mistake.
EndersBuggers ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:23:54 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a two night town.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:05 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Truest shit ever
RedditYankee ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:48:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the case for a lot of trips. Seeing extended family is nice, but after a few days it can often become a bit much.
patthickwong ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 16:02:43 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
False. Vacation with friends is the best
Drinking, gambling, clubs, strip clubs, and good food.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:59 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes, the food.
Went with family a few years back. Bought some 24-hr buffet pass.
Ate buffets for dinner, breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
Took a lot of work to burn that off...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:57 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Drinking and clubbing you can do anywhere!
atthem77 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:47:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My gf and I spent a week and Vegas, and had a blast. But we only spent a handful of hours gambling - the rest was seeing the sights and getting out and doing things. Museums, shows, Hoover Dam, kayaking, etc.
If you take a vacation to Vegas and get bored, it's entirely your own fault.
seamonster1609 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:21:02 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But the restaurants are soooo good. Last time I was there I just wanted to eat the whole time.
WVAviator ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:42:11 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're obligated to say that because of the popular saying.
autoposting_system ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:19 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I never had any desire to go to Vegas, and then I got a job out there for about six months (split into little chunks over about two years) and was able to confirm my guess: no interest.
Nevertheless, it turned out great. Red Rock Canyon, Valley of Fire State Park, Lake Mead, Lake Mohave, the Hoover Dam: it was a blast. 100% would do again AAA+++.
drive2fast ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:49:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This.
After a few trips to Burning Man, Vegas just seems like it's a place for people who have not figured out how to party properly.
caretotry_theseagain ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:46:08 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey it's me, your brother. Give me 20grand so I can test that with you
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:52:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm almost pissed this guy just wrote this
AndThereItWasnt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:03:55 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This looks like a great tip! Being someone who has no experience with this, do you have to ask for the comp? How likely are they to just offer it up (without your asking) at the time of your deposit?
Bran_Solo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:13:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you elaborate? I've been to Vegas several times but I don't gamble at all so I'm not sure exactly what to do here.
beepbeepitsajeep ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:53:19 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sterling?
liquor_for_breakfast ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:57:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wouldn't they give it to you in chips though?
EssEyeOhFour ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:28:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The sterling archer triple A power play, the A stands for awesome.
Mustard-Tiger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:52:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure how well this would work. Casinos would probably like to see you use their rewards card so they could track your spending.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:41:08 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I took a trip to Vegas, started winning and they comp'd me my room for the trip. Didnt gamble any more but they thought I was.
Legacy0904 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:48:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you deposit the money when you arrive at the casino? Or can you do this all online beforehand?
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:04:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wouldn't they work out that you weren't in the casino though? I imagine they would keep an eye on the high flyers. Especially if they are providing a room.
notjawn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:59:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well besides all the fees and taxes for moving money around this is a good point. They'd notice the first time you did it. Cue either them bombarding you with fees or just plain old kicking you out of the hotel, returning your money after taxing and more FU fees for wasting their time and a hotel room telling you to shove it and probably getting you blacklisted in all of Vegas.
Aski09 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:46:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hahhahahahahhaha so funny 20k in savings
No_stop_signs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:37:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or for the slightly more spendthrift among us, put 20 grand in the account, then each day take out 5 grand then deposit 4.7 of it back into your bank account.
PMyouMooningME ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:14:52 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok moneybags.
thomowen20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't they track your play; though, at least roughly?
Hurre ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't the casino usually give you a card to spend this balance with? I think they would notice if you didn't spend it with them?
dirtymoney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:19 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that's brilliant!
nomii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What is a hotel account and how do I set it online (e.g. for bellagio or equivalent)
ActionHobo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:49 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't even need 20 grand honestly. I went last year, got a Total Rewards card with the Caesars properties (Bally's, Harrah's, Paris, and a lot of others), and I get rooms comped whenever it's not a peak week or weekend. And it's not just for Vegas; I get free rooms in New Orleans or anywhere that has a Caesars property.
And I only netted $200 when I went the first time.
verisimilarity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who spends $5000/day on seeing sights??
PhucItAll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:20 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I use the M life members card when I'm in Vegas and I get comps all the time. I just gamble with about $500 each time I go and they send me room comps and special offers. I usually win most of my money back too. Going to stay 3 nights next month with the room comped and free slot tournament entry.
mconeone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They will know by looking at your players card history.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:56 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I stayed at the Luxor for like $400. 20 grand is a lot of money to put up to save $400.
swinging_yorker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:51 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Srry, never gone to a casino before. What is a casino hotel account?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:00 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What does this mean?
oodsigma8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:38:49 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But roulette is fun ;(
MechanicalEngineEar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:32:33 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that hasn't been effective for about a decade. now they track how much you actually spend and comp accordingly.
AskMeAboutMyBandcamp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:44:40 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a university student who also works full time, I don't think I've ever had 20,000$ in my life. That's like at least 18,000 X what I currently have in my bank account lol
Montgomery0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:26:20 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You could probably find a better place to visit than Las Vegas.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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TrueBlonde ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:19:39 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, they'd need your SSN
tw847382 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not entirely true, with just a name and address you can get someone's credit. There are laws of sending a firm offer of credit though.
DeadKateAlley ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 14:15:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There aren't any.
beepbeepitsajeep ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:54:44 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are tons of cocktail waitresses.
FrankenBerryGxM ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:17:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I too watch archer
Martha_is_a_slut ยท -21 points ยท Posted at 06:13:43 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Going off this. Get a hotel club card. Just throw down a large sum of money at a craps table. Do this around their casino without spending much and you ok get comp'd.
GOTaSMALL1 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 06:43:32 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah... that's not how it works.
[deleted] ยท -21 points ยท Posted at 06:45:31 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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GOTaSMALL1 ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 06:52:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Casinos aren't stupid. They track your play and know precisely what you spend. They aren't in the business of losing money... which includes giving away free shit to people that aren't actually gambling.
Your buddy is either gambling that large sum of money or lying about getting free rooms.
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 06:59:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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GOTaSMALL1 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 07:09:28 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
In that case... your buddy probably gambles a lot. At table games, the dealer (or croupier) will call out to the pit boss how much you bought in for (and if you rebuy) and give them your card. The pit boss makes a note of your buy-in and then watches you play occasionally. S/He will make regular checks of your bets. When you leave... they will rate you based on your average bet X how long you played. What you drop on the table first does nothing to get you comps.
ETA: That's a good buddy to go to Vegas with!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:14:36 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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GOTaSMALL1 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:20:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If he's making $20-100 line bet on craps then taking odds and making other bets at the same rate... that's a pretty large amount of money.
JoshuaLyman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:44:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm no expert, but average bet * duration of play * vig => club points.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:34:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just to be clear, your buddy isn't making money in Vegas. His rooms are paid for by his losses.
tikhead ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:25:31 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also if he has won huge in the past, the casino will comp his rooms in order to get him to come back to lose it back to them.
Captcha_Imagination ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:50:03 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Would this be Martha?
TheRealGunn ยท 283 points ยท Posted at 14:48:36 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
You can use a free membership to the Mustang Club of America to receive X-Plan pricing on a new Ford vehicle.
The X-Plan is for employees of partner organizations, but the MCA pin is easily available online, and works.
It reduces the price to slightly over invoice.
It also limits the amount of document fees to $100 (typically runs ~$800).
I saved $12,000 on one vehicle, and $4500 on another.
The best benefit honestly is that there's no haggling.
uhhmmk ยท 405 points ยท Posted at 16:58:31 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah but then you have to buy a ford
Xetanees ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:20:40 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I got a 14 year old Taurus that runs great!
And before you get to it, "neat!"
Slizzard_73 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:31:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My dad has a 15 year old one and it's doing fine.
pm-them-dogs ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:44:40 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wish my dad was doing fine :(
Slizzard_73 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:59:49 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well don't bring other people down, jesus.
VashMM ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:26:31 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah Jesus, just keep the wine coming so we can all forget.
TheMellowestyellow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:45 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My roommate got a taurus. The engine and transmission blew up within a month.
TheRealGunn ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 17:08:49 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love my F-150. I had owned nothing but Chevrolet my entire life, one bad experience at a dealership (idiot sales lady treated me like she didn't think I could afford anything, because I was in street clothes I guess) and I decided to try Ford.
This truck is the best vehicle I've ever owned. It's incredibly spacious and comfortable, reliable, and fun to drive.
mitchell271 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:06:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I drove one for delivery work last year. So much fun to drive, and it was very comfy! Plus, it was built like a tank. I got into a fender-bender, and the only damage was the little plastic stand for the license plate at the front. Moron co-worker caused a 3-car accident, and there was barely a scratch. Not even a bent rad fin!
say_or_do ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It really seems like my f-550 is going to run for ever and it's still basically new but I use it for work so it has about 40,000 miles on it after only having it for two years. It's a beast but still so fun to drive. I can take it anywhere on the work site and its even pulled out tractor trailers that got stuck in the mud.
And also like you said the inside is very comfy. The back is actually comfortable enough to get a good night's rest in.
PMMEYOURDANKESTMEME ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:13:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What year is it? Diesel Fords from post 2007 (I think, I could be wrong.) have absolutely terrible engine designs. Things break constantly after about 80,000. The only way to get to most of these issue is for the entire cab of the truck to get pulled off, which costs about 4,000 where I live. Dump it while you can. The engineers who designed that engine should be hung.
DoubleSidedTape ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:02:02 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hanged.
labradorasaurus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:25:23 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Diesel fords from post '07 are not too bad if you actually keep up on the maintenance to the letter. I would also not shit on them too much given that the 6.7l cummins and the Duramax's all see similar issues.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:45:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously. After driving an F250 power stroke pulling double trailers (5th wheel camper and a motorcycle trailer with 5 bikes) up canyons and for 6+ hour drives and never having any issues with it (180,000 miles) I just can't see myself getting anything else.
uhhmmk ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 17:34:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
neat!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:18:17 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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uhhmmk ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 17:33:55 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
neat!
zw1ck ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:14:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Them's fightin words
YadMot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:57 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are fords that bad in America? In the UK a Mondeo is known as a great (if slightly boring) family car.
Fromanderson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:19:50 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No they aren't bad at all. There is a lot of trash talk about them though. I have two in my driveway right now with well over 200k miles on them that I wouldn't hesitate to drive anywhere.
ImagineAllTheKarma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:31:53 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Theres nothing wrong with them but they tend to be known as less reliable than Japanese cars and less fun to drive than European ones
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:55 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you mean you cant af-FORD one?
supernblock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:31 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And that's something I can't a ford
WVAviator ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 18:44:39 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amount saved does not make up for lifetime maintainence cost of a Ford
canadian1987 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:12:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brb buying the new Ford GT
nevalk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:59:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does Ford X plan still also get you Mazda S plan?
TheRealGunn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:09:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No idea, sorry. Never dealt with Mazda.
donduc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:35:31 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I doubt it does anymore, Ford only owns 2.1% of Mazda now.
Figur3z ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:44:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is pretty fucking astounding.
I mean, a quick google search shows that someone did this back in 2012 and made it public knowledge on the fordpartner website.
Is it really this simple and they've not cracked down on it?
TheRealGunn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:51:06 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dealers just want to sell cars. They don't care.
Figur3z ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:55:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What kind of a % are you looking at? I'm guessing the $12k was on a big truck and the $4.5k on a 'stang or something?
TheRealGunn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:51:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
12k was off an F150 stickered at $39,800, the other was an Escape listed at $28,000.
Figur3z ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:56:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's crazy. Over 25%...
This is possibly the best thing in this comment thread.
mopedophile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:38:51 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
X plan varies wildly between different models. Trucks and SUV have the largest mark up and so they have the biggest discount, but x plan for a Fiesta will save you something like $250.
PlatinumGoon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:18:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does it work on Lincolns too?
Sup3rGo4tM4n ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:29 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All the memberships I see are at a set price, so how would I go about getting a free membership?
TheRealGunn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:47 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just sign up on the website for free, you don't need an actual membership. You can find the pin with Google.
TGMcGonigle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Document fees (and everything else about buying a car) are negotiable. Even if the finance guy says it's not negotiable, it's negotiable. Even if it's preprinted on the contract, it's negotiable.
Source: have never paid more than state titling fees.
TheRealGunn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:16:08 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right, but haggling for that is a pain in the ass. Just telling them you're using the plan to get the lowest price you could get without going through the bullshit is nice.
[deleted] ยท 92 points ยท Posted at 16:19:08 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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Malawi_no ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 21:29:07 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is why we cannot have nice things.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:51:05 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know if it works for Amazon, but it does for other online stores that offer a free returning policy, just order 100$ of other shit you do not want and return it.
Luminair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:50:18 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This doesnt work anymore unfortunately.
determinedforce ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:28:33 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why you paying $3 for toothpaste? Family Dollar as well as other stores, $1.
[deleted] ยท 562 points ยท Posted at 06:07:03 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sharing said loop hole would kinda make It useless and likely have it patched.
[deleted] ยท 183 points ยท Posted at 06:58:28 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pm me bro
Elronnd ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 07:34:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your bro, man
Nicholas_The_Great ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 07:35:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your man, mate
mrfolider ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 07:44:07 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your mate, dude.
Elronnd ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 07:47:47 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your dude, brah
SomeWierdo ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 08:46:20 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your brah, Guy.
PM_ME_ANIME_BOOBIES ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 08:50:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your guy, lad.
Evilldeadd ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 08:51:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your lad, John
UltimateInferno ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:22:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your John, pal.
ThatBriandude ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:26:21 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your pal, pay.
samharding81 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:31:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Im not your pay, geez.
Wilreadit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:33:29 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am not your geez, jefe.
forgotpassword-_- ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:30:07 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your jefe, friend.
A_B_C_D_3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:32:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your friend, china.
DeWildeVis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:34:07 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your china, nerd.
ninjabanana42069 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:58:20 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your nerd,bud
Knight747 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:04:57 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your bud, homie.
Zerotan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:09:45 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your homie, Siri
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:06:49 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your Siri, Cortana.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:34:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not you Cortana, Amigo.
zJordan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:23 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your amigo, ruski.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:37 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We did it!
Wilreadit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:54 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am not your friend, pengyou.
VelociterUnicorn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:51:21 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your John, Mick
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:51:31 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm John
1halfazn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:44:05 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh hey John
blsfan8497 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:51:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I aint your John, bud
c4ptainepic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:32 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How did you know?
Whostolemydonut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:31 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your John, bud.
DavidL1112 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:43 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your John, whore.
SmartFellar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:52 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your John, hooker.
Cole_The_Duck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your John, loo.
aps95 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:19 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am John.
YouCalledSatan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:58:11 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your John, Doe.
nahomish ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:07:31 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your John, fam.
stillinlovewitredead ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:34:49 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know nothing John snow
TheSoundOfTastyYum ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 09:05:02 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your John, Ash.
IncapableSquirrel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:06:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your Ash, Ketchum
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:41:37 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your Ash, bud.
SpadesFTW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:48:05 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your amigo, bro.
RomanRiffs ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:07:50 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hi
TheSoundOfTastyYum ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:47:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hello
SomeWierdo ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 09:08:54 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your lad broseph
TdotCullen ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 11:04:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your broseph, chief
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:23:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hah I ended it.
uthinkther4uam ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:48:06 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm nahtchyo guy fwend!
Sophilosophical ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:11 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've got a bra guy. He gets me the good stuff for cheap.
Pm me bro
Nazerr666 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:37:03 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your dude, guy
MrCuddlez69 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your mate, dude
egeg_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:21:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey its me your brother.
Ltdansicecream1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:03:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
PM_ME_YOUR_LOOPHOLES
Custodes13 ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 13:23:37 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So you don't actually have one.
Limmortel ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 09:59:57 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's me ur brother
xx_ando_xx ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 14:50:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*cousin. Roman.
mothstuckinabath ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:51:55 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously. I have one for returning books on Audible. A friend of mine (along with thousands of other people) used to take advantage of the no-questions-asked unlimited returns policy by returning every book after he finished listening to it. I only return a book if I didn't like it so much that I would never finish it. I feel like if you finished it, you should pay for it.
Eventually Audible patched the loophole by limiting you to 2 returns a year or something. I'm pretty picky with audiobooks - for a lot of them, I just honestly have trouble following the story. Idk, some narrators annoy me, and I'm not an aural learner at all. Takes a great narrator and a story that works very well in that format, or I get lost/bored. So I really need to legitimately return more than 2 books a year.
I figured out how, and I'm never telling him or he'll ruin that too.
Jester41K ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:17:47 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This happened the last time there was a thread like this. Someone posted how to get free inflight wifi on airlines that use GOGO. Something that I'd been using for years. A few weeks later the glitch was fixed.
TehSalmonOfDoubt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:54:03 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clicking threshes lantern allows you to safely dash to him?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:34:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nautilus's /dance makes him swim through the air. He's weird like that.
riselikebread ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:05 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reddit isn't the general public.
Dominicmeoward ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:15 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Upvote simply for the username.
NeverShoutEugene ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:49 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can I get a pm? I won't say a word.
thisguyhasaname ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:08:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i wanna know :3
firstclassbob ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:58:32 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I want in
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:24:06 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like you almost speak English.
[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 07:25:19 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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_AnonOp ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 12:28:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your bro, pal
BigKid1227 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 13:04:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your pal, buddy
TheMellowestyellow ยท 288 points ยท Posted at 10:52:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
First off, dont ever book a hotel through booking.com, expedia, travelocity. Just dont. You usually will get the cheapest, worst rooms in a hotel.
Second, provided you followed my initial piece of advice, heres how to cancel a room same day without the early cancellation charge. Call the hotel, and tell them your plans changed, and you need to move your reservation to next week. Then, wait 8 hours, so that the shift at the hotel can change. Call back, and cancel it then.
TrowelHard ยท 105 points ยท Posted at 12:41:34 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You say that, but I've always used Hotels.com and I've never had an issue with any hotel room I've stayed in (touch wood). Most hotels don't allocate rooms at the time of booking anyway.
TheMellowestyellow ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 12:46:02 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, most hotels wont assign rooms at time of booking. However, typically, a lot of hotels will assign rooms booked through third parties last. It really applies on nights that the hotel is sold out, or close to.
WitherWithout ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 14:12:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Booked through third parties where their membership isn't on the reservation and guests using associate/friends&family discount forms don't get assigned rooms because I don't know if they have a floor preference. Has nothing to do "getting the last rooms available" or "getting the worst rooms".
I only assign rooms for mobile check-ins and people that preferences on their reservation (low/high floor, near/away from elevator, feather free, etc.)
braaibros ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:45 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What is feather free room?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:39:07 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No feathers in pillows etc, for people with allergies I reckon
WitherWithout ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:49:58 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Though I am convinced that people are just saying they have feather allergies because they just don't want feather pillows for comfortability reasons.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:44:51 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
sure they do. I sometimes say I'm allergic to seafood because I don't like it and don't want to explain it every time I go to dinner with friends.
youllfindmeinfirst ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:26:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can absolute agree with this; I worked on a hotel reception for a long time and I would allocate rooms in the following order:
Preferences (like away from lifts etc) Regular guests (business guys etc) Special occasions (honeymoons, birthdays etc) Memberships & Loyalty Scheme Members Bookings made directly to the hotel 3rd party bookings Last minute bookings (on the day/walk ins)
HoboHippo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:38:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought you have to knock on wood, not just touch it.
MrGMinor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:01:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is the correct superstition, yes.
political_libre ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:21:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)
MosquitoRevenge ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:59:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And I was on vacation 2 weeks ago trying to get a new hotel room because of some mishap and I went to the hotel to book a room. No vacancies. I stayed in the lobby to use the internet to check another hotel and behold. Booking.com had an available room for this damn hotel. I booked it and went up to the receptionist and got my room key a few hours later.
driedger4191 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:37 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually used to work at a HIE. I guarantee you, it's more about how nice and kind you are on the phone. I'll work hard when talking to kind people, only way I'll work harder is if you're an ass and the work is to inconvenience like the shit was my destiny
mc8675309 ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 11:40:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If sites offer a cheaper room than the hotel is offering directly call them up and explain you see it cheaper elsewhere but you'd rather not deal with them, ask if they will offer you the same deal, many will.
You can often negotiate a room on the spot in the middle of the night if your traveling. AAA discounts come out of nowhere if they think they can land you a room (and you don't already have AAA)
111survivor ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 12:12:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I tried this, they said no so I booked through expedia.
The room I got was $25 a night cheaper, and I think we had the best room in the hotel- the key selling point was the view on one side/end of the hotel, and we were on the 2nd (top) floor right in front of the "view".
TheMellowestyellow ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 12:48:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, no. If you call my hotel, and say you see it at a cheaper rate, I will tell you to book it at that rate.
Middle of the night, maybe. But again, not if you tell me you saw the rate online.
WitherWithout ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 14:14:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If we're not anywhere near sold out, I would honor the rate and just go ahead and make the reservation for them. Better to sell a room than lose revenue for usually a mere $10 in difference.
Almost sold out? No, book it online and bring in the confirmation number.
DepressionsDisciple ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:53:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a night auditor please stop calling me :( I'm frying chicken back here and I have no patience to play over the phone discount haggle wars. More often than not you won't even show up anyway.
WitherWithout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Won't even show up. Try to GNS charge. Credit Card declines. The struggle.
dj_asthma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:40 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you give the crappier rooms to people who don't book directly through the hotel?
TheMellowestyellow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:51 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, i dont work on the shift that assigns rooms, so not me personally, but this does happen.
RichiH ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because you like getting even less money? Booking direct eliminates the cut the booking site takes from the cheaper fare.
samstown23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, because chances are the travel agencies is eating a pretty significant chunk of the rate itself, if done properly.
RichiH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I tried to parse your sentence a few times and all possible explanations I can come up with seem to be illogical.
Can you expand, please?
animmows ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:54:19 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Loss leader.
RichiH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:18 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That does not make any sense at all.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/4u71gg/what_loophole_do_you_know_that_most_people_dont/d5omai2 is a good read, though.
samstown23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:49:08 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, here's an (oversimplified) example of what I mean:
Say we have a hotel room that sells for 100$/night at the hotel itself. The hotel will sell options to an aggregator, a so called bed bank (e.g. hotelbeds, Kuomi, etc. - some major travel agencies, such as Expedia, will have their own as well). Prices may differ from bank to bank but for argument's sake we'll just say it's about 50$/night in this arbitrary example.
The bed bank now puts the rates into the distribution system the travel agencies can access. Obviously, the travel agency marks up the price to earn money, no surprise here. 30-50%, depending on the situation, is the usual rate. The rate you as the customer then see would be somewhere in the area of 70$/night. These are the rates the hotels will occasionally match as it's slightly favorable over selling the option to the bed bank (the hotel doesn't net 20$ more, since they have to cover the risks involved, like cancellations, payment fees, some included taxes, etc).
Here's where the fun begins: naturally, travel agencies (and/or bed banks) are competing with each other, so it's likely that somebody will sell the particular hotel slightly cheaper (i.e. the travel agency is making less money or the bank got a better rate). Once you throw in search engines (think kayak, trivago, etc.) which will have deals with the travel agencies, things get a little fuzzy around the edges. The agency pays provisions to the search engines. These provision sometimes aren't (fully) paid in cash but discount the rate itself (affiliate linking), since there's also competition between the search engines.
It very well may be that the price in our example will vary depending on the link to the travel agency:
- directly going to the agency results in a price of 70$ - search engine A will also result in 70$ - engine B will also give you 70$ but waives the payment fees - engine C will drop the price to 65$ - engine D drops the price to 60$ but has a stricter cancellation policy (so, technically a different rate).
We have no reached a point where the hotels stop matching prices, because once you calculate expenses, it's pretty much a toss-up sith selling to a bed bank and the hotel may risk getting kicked out of certain affiliate networks for undercutting the "official" rates.
When you start throwing around coupons, travel agency reward programs (hotels.com 10 nights = 1 free night, for example) or even cashback sites, stuff gets crazy: if one or more of all the aspects above coincide, prices may even drop below the buying rate of the bed bank. It's a complicated process that involves a lot of trial and error as well as an occasional glitch in the booking system and it certainly doesn't make sense financially for the customer, given the amount of time that needs to be invested but I've seen people with weirder hobbies than that.
In the end you'll end up with a rate where nobody earns any money and some parties even operate at a loss. If we applied that to our example, here's what it might look like: that 65$ rate from the agency in question combined with search engine C also offers a 15% discount coupon. Sometimes you can combine that with a cashback website and you might get another 10% out of that.
You have now successfully dropped your rate slightly under 50$. No hotel will ever match that rate.
RichiH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:06 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks!
That specific example does not cover the general statement by /u/TheMellowestyellow so I still don't understand why they were making a blanket statement. Yet, I can see how a chain of entities operating at, or slightly below, margin can add up easily. Also, the point of "if you undercut X, you're out of Y" sounds depressingly realistic.
So, thanks :)
Manic_42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How does the travel site make money if they are losing money booking the room cheaper?
samstown23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:49 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It would be a loss leader, so they wouldn't be making (as much) money.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:15 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This may come as a surprise, but having worked in retail once, long, long ago, and at various places that sell things: People lie to try to get cheaper rates.
Weird, right?
RichiH ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:43:24 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most claims should be easy to verify either way and I kinda suspect hotels know what rates they give to reselling sites, so there's not much wiggle room. And the outliers can be curbed with a policy of "if we can't find it, we can't match it".
Yet, the initial fact remains: Selling at X amount and giving away Y as commission means you get
X - Ymoney. Selling at X directly means you get X.BigFudge117 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:43:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know when I managed a hotel and someone booked through Travelocity or other sites like that, we only got paid like $30. So we'd tell people to call us directly because we can give them a cheaper rate than the site and we still make double what we would have.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:28:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Front desk agents/reservation agents hate dealing with customers who try to explain that they see a cheaper rate online & want it directly through the hotel, FYI. Just fucking book the room where you see it. And it's not cool to haggle a discounted rate using AAA or other service when you don't actually have that service or membership.
mc8675309 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I ran a hotel I encouraged the night auditor to give discounts to book the room and say something like "I'll give you the a AAA rate, don't tell the manager."
After a 11 we'd do just about anything to fill the place if rooms were going to stay empty.
mothstuckinabath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:49 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always check the hotel site as well as hotels.com, and never once has the hotel had a cheaper price. Also, I add in the notes, please put me on the highest floor available. And you can see in the notes exactly what kind of room you're getting. Not sure what the problem is.
LordShaft666 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:50:39 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In theory if a hotel chain is doing it right, Expedia, Booking.com etc will have the same price as booking direct due to a clause in advertising on those sites that you (the hotel) ensures the agent always has the cheapest best available rate. The best and easiest way of doing this is to ensure all channels are selling the same rate and therefore have parity.
However as hotel chains have to pay commission on these bookings, they would prefer you to book direct as they're not loosing 20%+ of the value on commission. If you find a hotel on an agent website check availability with booking direct on the own brand site as it's possible you might find a promotional rate that isn't on the OTA or possibly (as my chain of hotels does) we offer extra for booking direct like not charging for the gym and swimming pool, bolt on meal plans etc. And also if you start a booking and leave it, some hotel companies will send you an incentive email hours later (or just leave the tab open for a while) and you'll get a bonus if you finish the booking (10% off F&B, 10% off of stay, comp upgrade etc).
However saying that if you can't find availability at your favourite hotel (for an event in the area), try Expedia/Hotels.com as part of the agreement to signing up with their site is that they have an allocation of rooms they can sell even when the hotel is full.
Lastly if possible try and book as far out as possible; many hotels are much cheaper the quieter and further out they are (most hotel chains will only let you book a maximum of 365 days ahead though) to get bums in beds. the price then rises the closer to check-in as they get busier. Some chains even advertise publicly available rates x number of days out to entice those early bookers; due to how OTAs run their checks to ensure they are selling at the same rate as the hotel, these early booker rates often fall outside of this parity window - we're talking dirt cheap rates for 3*+ hotels at B&B prices!
Source - Me (I work in the hotel industry in Revenue).
WitherWithout ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:09:31 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I currently work at a hotel and can tell you that it's not that you will get the cheapest, worst rooms in the hotel, but it's sometimes not even the cheapest price. If my hotel is not sold out and we have plenty of rooms available, I'll usually sell at a lower price than what's listest online just to sell the room.
For cancellations, yes the whole change it to a next night and then cancelling works usually works (just don't call the hotel, do it yourself), but also, if you booked through the hotel's website and cancel online yourself, 9/10 times we aren't going to notice that you cancelled your reservation same day. Night auditors don't care about that stuff and most likely won't be looking anyway at who cancelled.
The ONLY times that I'll charge for a cancellation is if you call and try to pull something over me. I can tell when someone is bullshitting to get out of paying for their room, especially when they are well aware of the policy. If they try to call and cancel and then I see that they are changing the date and then cancelling or trying to get corporate involved, we'll go online and charge anyway.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:20:29 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I use booking.com for 6 years, 20+ bookings a year, and never had an issue. Always got exactly the room I booked. The beauty of it is that I have instant reservation, which is many times very important for me, at least one third of my hotel bookings are for the same day, many unplanned business trips, usually to busy german cities (Munich, Frankfurt, Hannover), and in case of big fair event in F. or H. the prices of hotels are triple, and finding a good deal is question of minutes.
I of course had many times the front desk asking me if int he future I would consider making reservation with them directly, and I always politely refused. I had many times problems with fuckups on their side, in many countries - overbooked, or even after a confirmation sent out by email they had the dates wrong, or even after you have confirmation from them that they received your message you will be arriving after midnight they gave your room to someone and you were left homeless for the night (this is a very shitty situation after a long travel. But the couch in the lobby was quite comfortable, and my following 3 nights were unsurprisingly very much free of charge, as was complimentary room service dinner and breakfast) Never ever had issue with booking.com. My only issue with it - and other similar sites - is that whenever some hotel I want to book is "full" you never know how many rooms were assigned to booking.com. I know some hotel chains assign only like 10% of the rooms for internet portals, so many times when you think your hotel is full it could be very much half empty. Some hotels are already integrating the online portals with their custom systems so you always have real-time booking, but most of them have to keep the slots for online portals low, because they have to guarantee the bookings, so if a hotel has let's say 100 rooms, and asisgns 15 rooms for online, they will not take a big conference order for all their rooms unless they can safely take all the slots away from the web - otherwise they would either pay a fine or be completely removed from the portal.
I visit quite often one private apartment near a lake - family owned newly built house with 3 great apartments, very quiet, clean, nicely equipped. It costs 50 EUR/night to book it via booking.com. The owner said to me he would charge me only 45 if I booked directly with him via phone or email. I know it is much better deal for him - he does not have to pay the fee to booking.com but more importantly - he probably would not even keep in the books, I pay cash, never even asked for a receipt (when I book with booking.com I get electronic receipt and pay with card), he never offered one - so if I book via booking.com he maybe gets to keep 30 EUR from that 50. But if I book directly, he gets to keep all 45. Now if he would offer 40, I would maybe get through the ordeal of calling a guy in Hungary who does not speak english and only poorly german, and still risk it that guy did not understand, booked wrong date and I drive 300km to find out the apartments are full. But saving 5/night, so 15-20 EUR for my usual 3-4 night stay, is not worth the risk and peace of mind. I know he gets a lot of business through booking.com so if I would arrive there and he would fuck up and overbook, I am pretty sure he would make his very best to find comparable accommodation and comp the price difference if the only option would be one of the 2 fairly expensive hotels in the town.
egnards ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:43 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did the priceline negotiation thing to find hotels in both LA and San Diego during a trip down the cost 3 years ago. Didn't have a lot of money at the time so totally cheaped out on the "name that price" tool to literally pay bottom dollar for both hotels. . .Both hotels and the rooms I stayed in were very very nice, no issues at all.
tamtt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:19 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I travel a lot for work and most of the hotels i book they allocate rooms upon check in. I just ask nicely for the room I fancy (bottom floor if I'm feeling lazy ;) )
Uhmerikan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well you told us what not to do. So glad you filled in the rest of the puzzle.
samstown23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A matched rate by the hotel simply wasn't the best rate to begin with...
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On a family trip it was my aunt's turn to look for a hotel, and she used Expedia and ended up putting us up in a shitty Quality Inn and we couldn't get a refund. It was disgusting.
Gorf_the_Magnificent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:16:11 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've gotten consistently great hotel rates with Expedia. Sometimes better than the rates on the hotel web site.
Bidding for hotels on Priceline was a gold mine a few years ago, but that seems to have dried up.
[deleted] ยท 748 points ยท Posted at 09:24:39 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't have to pay your taxes if...
No you have to pay your fucking taxes. I don't care what stupid spam email you printed off telling you that if you spell your name in all caps you're suddenly not the person on your birth certificate shell corporation or whatever half-baked horseshit someone told you in a bar.
(Former banker who advised a lot of tax clients)
tl;dr - pay your fucking taxes
The-Potato-Lord ยท 196 points ยท Posted at 11:17:18 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, no, no you write every third letter in all caps. That way under common law the governmentโข plc registered to Barack Hussein Obama can't force me to pay because I am no longer held under naval law! Ugh smh.
mc8675309 ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 11:36:35 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You have to make sure the flag in your house has frilly fringes.
BigDamnHead ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 16:46:18 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, you have to make sure it doesn't have frilly fringes. If it has frilly fringes then your house is a vessel.
Sean1708 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:27:21 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Instructions unclear, am now sailing my house to Bogotรก.
LeakyLycanthrope ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:49:39 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"I accidentally put my car key into the doorknob on my house. Gave it a turn and the whole house started up. I started driving my house around. I parked on the freeway and told everyone to get out of my driveway."
- Steven Wright
Bemfeitomenino ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:48 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hold your tongue and say "I live on a pirate ship."
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:02:21 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't matter. Predator drones don't care about jurisdictions.
random_side_note ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 15:11:50 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Out of curiousty, and I might be entirely wrong on this (i was drunk at a party when i was told this), but i had a tax lawyer tell me one time that it isn't the not paying taxes that necessarily gets you busted, it's not paying for say, 6 years, deciding you want to buy a home or open a business, and then picking back up on paying taxes, is what will get you caught.
On a scale of 1-10, 1 being "HAHAHAHA that's so wrong" and 10 being "ding ding ding We Have a Correct Answer!", how wrong have i been remembering that?
No_Im_Sharticus ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 16:29:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, if you fail to file taxes and have income that's reported to the government (W-2, 1099, maybe even retirement) they can find you. Although, unless they think you owe more than what was withheld they probably won't bother.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:34 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also from what I recall, they also do random audits of people who do file, so don't try and cheat
WTF_Fairy_II ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:49 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Their audit rate is less than 1%. Don't try and cheat, but it's highly unlikely you'll ever be audited unless you're doing something funky already.
DrKnowsNothing_MD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if you only worked 2 seasonal jobs of which one paid 1.6k and the other 3k.. It'd only be $4.6k in total in an entire year.. Do taxes still have to be done?
bitchesaintshirt ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:42:47 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. You file taxes no matter what. If your income is very low you may get all your taxes refunded, but you still have to file.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:45:28 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. But with income that low you will get it all back.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:03 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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No_Im_Sharticus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:31:34 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
NOTE: I'm not a tax attorney or advisor. I'd recommend getting professional advice rather than relying on random internet commenters.
That being said, so long as you didn't owe any more than what was withheld, I'm pretty sure it won't matter if you didn't file taxes for one year. In fact many times if you don't file, the IRS oh-so-helpfully will do them for you.
GhostOfCaptainPlanet ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:23:45 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tax lawyer here. That wouldn't work. The reason that we have the W-2 system is that your employer will send them for all their employees and IRS will match them up against what individuals file. There is a similar system for partners in a partnership (K-1s).
It's more feasible with something like a sole proprietorship or a small business - but you would need both the employer and the employee playing games with the tax forms (which is obviously a supremely bad idea).
Not paying taxes alone isn't criminal. But they'll assess fines and penalties, which can be arduous. The crime of tax evasion is one that the justice system categorizes as a "specific intent" crime. It means you have to not only not pay taxes, but do so intending to break the law and deliberately underpay. The law is this way because Congress realizes that the tax code is complicated and people underpay all the time unintentionally.
chipsharp0 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:49:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The greater crime is usually for not giving a return that accounts for income. Reference Capone, had a lavish lifestyle but never filed a tax return. Filing a return and not paying the owed amount due to hardship or laziness or whatever, is ill-advised and will make things more expensive, but isn't necessarily criminal.
random_side_note ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good to know, thanks guys for explaining all that :)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:42:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
There is a big difference in not paying taxes and not filing taxes. Had a friend who didn't file for many years. The taxes were still being deducted from his checks, but he never sent in the forms. It was only a matter of filing those delinquent forms to get him square again. I think he might have even gotten money back.
If you're not paying when you owe, you're more seriously fucked. You will need to file and pay all that you owe with penalties and interest.
random_side_note ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:32 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Got it. Thank you :)
ssshield ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:23:40 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did that and found out they actually owed me five grand. Paid the fines took the money
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:47:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The IRS looks for suspicious patterns. A regular tax payer suddenly taking a 6 year break and then starting again would likely flag something for follow up.
However as I mentioned to someone else. Going to the IRS and filing all your back taxes will result in interest and penalties. Failing to file and getting caught is what leads to jail.
random_side_note ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:15 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gotcha.
Like i said, i was drunk when told this years ago. I never like, tried it, or anything, but it'd pop up in my head every so often. Figured this was as good a place as any to ask about it.
egnards ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 15:25:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
BUT I'M A FREE CITIZEN OF THE EARTH!!!!!!!! YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW ALL THE LAWS OF YOUR LAND AND I ENJOY ALL ITS FREEDOM BUT DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW SHIT!
pm_me_your_cuck_pics ยท 114 points ยท Posted at 11:14:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The only loopholes to avoid paying your taxes is to be a criminal or to be very rich.
callanrocks ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 14:37:37 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being a criminal and not paying taxes will get you in all sorts of shit if they can't pin the criminal stuff on you.
Gamersunite ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 16:54:20 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
History's finest example: Al Capone
Edit: Due to brain derp, Capone was spelled with a K instead of a C.
TheGeraffe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:18:25 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You misspelled it because that's how it was legally spelled. He just went by "Al Capone" because that made him a legally different entity from "Al Kapone", and therefore immune to taxes.
Source: Lawyer who specializes in bird law.
powderizedbookworm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like you had syphilis ;)
MrNPC009 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:32:03 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
IRS doesnt care if youre a criminal. Theres a section on your taxes that lets you declare illegal income. BOOM! No more worries about tax evasion.
callanrocks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:45:24 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know, but they do care if you don't pay your taxes. I'd take a guess that most criminals don't.
patthickwong ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:06:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or make 0 money.
hold_my_drink ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 15:27:05 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So tired of this myth. The wealthy, as a whole, pay higher effective tax rates than the poor or middle class. Sure there are individual outliers but on a macro level, the wealthy paying less tax in the US is a myth.
pm_me_your_cuck_pics ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 15:45:49 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You maybe misunderstand the objection. I'm sure the wealthy pay more tax than I do in actual terms and as a percent as their income. The problem is that our law provides for progressive taxation rates but the wealthy engage in tax minimization and evasion schemes.
So the objection isn't that they pay less tax overall or that they pay a smaller percentage than low wage earners (although instances of that have been documented) but that they pay less tax than what the intent of the law demands.
autranep ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:36:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Avoidance* Evasion is illegal.
imquitestupid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:36:11 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's the fucking same.
hold_my_drink ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:46:52 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If they're following the laws, then how are they paying less than the law expects them to pay. I understand your point and perhaps they pay less than you think they should but it's a tough position to take that they pay less than the tax code was written for them to pay. We can't possibly know that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:30 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They exploit the way tax codes are written to significantly decrease the amount they pay(which makes sense, ofc you'd hire an accountant that could save you millions a year). It's completely legal, the government needs to adjust laws.
I'm not a financial expert so you should be able to find some examples through googling.
Johnny55 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:14:11 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because they write the fucking tax code themselves (by having lobbyists draft bills with the loopholes written in). That's like the whole point of lobbyists.
patthickwong ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:07:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you are rational, you would do the same thing given the same position.
So it's more on the government to close the loopholes as opposes to the individual not using them.
FtWorthHorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:57 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It isn't like rich people make up these "loopholes" in the tax code. They take advantage of provisions allowing them to reduce their taxes the same way regular people do when they deduct mortgage interest.
Johnny55 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:15:02 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, they do make them up - they have lobbyists draft bills with the loopholes written in.
Thisis___speaking ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But the intent of the law allows for tax minimization (not evasion). Here's one pretty much anyone can do, put the maximum in a 401(k) so it'll reduce your tax liability that year and be deferred until when you retire, where you'll likely be in a lower tax bracket. Bang. Tax minimization written into the letter and intent of the law.
Jay_Highland ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:02:28 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You have options to take deductions as well. They are paying less taxes because they manage their money for the sole purpose of reducing tax liability. In the US, anyone can do it and they do. Most people do not pay incomes taxes in the US, they get a refund or owe nothing. The wealthy pay most of the taxes.
nopointers ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:40:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Getting a refund at the time you file your income tax does not mean you aren't paying taxes. Getting a refund means you already gave the government too much of your money (usually through payroll deductions) and they're returning them amount you overpaid.
The payroll withholding rates are deliberately set too high to ensure this happens. It persuades people to fill out their tax forms, be less unhappy about the whole thing, and those refund checks get spent quickly so the economy gets a little bump too.
The wealthy tend to pay more on April 15 because they have managed their tax liability to ensure they aren't giving a free loan to the US government. They will have paid before that date just enough to avoid getting fined for underpayment.
Jay_Highland ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I know that it does not mean you are not paying taxes. However, a lot of people get refunds for what was paid through the year and even more than they paid in refunds. So, yes the IRS is getting ahold of that money but they are paying back the equal and sometimes, higher amount to a fair amount of the population.
I always put my dependents and adjusted my tax forms so the smallest amount came out, because like you said, it is a free loan to the government. I advice people to do this and there response is always like, "But, I like getting a big refund." They dont realize that they could take that money and split it into a MM, CD or savings and then have that amount at the beginning of the following year with interest (not much lately). People just have no self control.
cgar28 ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 15:53:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No,they pay exactly what the law allows. It's not a "loophole" at all.
km89 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:55:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what a loophole is. Something that is allowed or not prohibited by law or policy that allows someone to circumvent the rules.
Taking advantage of an offered deduction is not a loophole. Stashing your income in a tax haven country is using a loophole.
cgar28 ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 17:01:54 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not an ambiguous law, it's a specific tax code that they are following. Loophole would seem to indicate a means of evasion which is what loophole means, which would not suffice as that is illegal.
km89 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:04:49 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not what the word "loophole means." Loopholes are not illegal; they're legal means of getting around the intent of the law.
cgar28 ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 17:09:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is literally what it means. I never said it was illegal, reread
km89 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:11:49 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reread your comment. You clearly and unambiguously stated that a loophole is a means of evasion, and then clearly and unambiguously stated that that is illegal.
cgar28 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
(evading taxes is illegal) a loophole is by definition evading. Loopholes are ambiguous. The tax code is none of these.
km89 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:42:07 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry, but you're just wrong.
"Tax evasion" refers to not paying taxes that you legally owe, whether by outright not paying or by falsifying information.
A loophole isn't technically evasion. A loophole is something that should be illegal based on the intent or spirit of the law, but through oversight or mistake is not banned by the letter of the law.
The tax code isn't ambiguous. That's correct. Which means that the things that you can and cannot do are very rigidly, clearly defined. In my field, we'd call loopholes "logical errors" because even though the restrictions are very clearly defined, they don't address the particular situation at hand.
To put it in video game terms: A loophole isn't a mod or a crack. Mods and cracks are analogous to tax evasion. A loophole is a glitch that allows you to complete a level by hitting this one particular piece of scenery at this precise angle--not because the developers intended that to happen, but because they didn't notice that people could do that and so it wasn't covered; you've taken a loophole that allowed you to do something you shouldn't be able to, but that was technically not against the rules for you to do.
cgar28 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:54:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not a glitch or an oversight. It's a direct large burdening tax code. It's not a loophole because of this. You're wrong. It's completely legal. End of story
km89 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:09:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No shit it's completely legal. Are you even reading what I'm posting?
A loophole is legal. A loophole is a glitch or an oversight, except in the rare instances someone put it there intentionally.
cgar28 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not an oversight.
km89 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:24:20 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then it's intentionally there. Regardless, it goes against the spirit of the law or the tax code, which is why it's a loophole in the first place.
cgar28 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:01:15 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is no such thing as "spirit of the law". There is law and there is no law.
km89 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:05:20 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you just intentionally being difficult?
That's the fucking point. There is the letter of the law, and that's what's relevant. The intent behind the law doesn't factor into what the law says. A loophole is when the letter of the law doesn't match up with the intent of the law, which is why a loophole is legal in the first place, because the intent of the law doesn't matter to what is legal and what is not.
cgar28 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:08:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is no such thing as intent of the law outside of what the law states. That is for authoritarian schmucks who want to declare something that isn't true.
km89 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:12:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So laws are created for no reason, then?
There is an intent of any given law. Its just irrelevant to the wording of that law and how that law is enforced.
cgar28 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:49:50 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No? That makes no sense. That isn't what I said
km89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
PyschoMonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:30:47 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Source? I'm curious about the intricacies of the matter.
hold_my_drink ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:50:21 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I first did research on this a few months ago but I can't find the article I read. Here's another that I think says the same thing but I don't have the time to read it right now.
http://www.pgpf.org/chart-archive/0102_tax-rates
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:52:37 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Poor people don't pay much in taxes at all either. Most of our tax revenue comes from a very small part of the population.
Alsadius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:28:39 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know the rich actually pay more taxes, even proportional to their income, right? Loopholes mean it's not as much more as it could be, but it's still more.
hicow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:41 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I doubt it's more proportional ton income. Payroll taxes are higher than capital gains, after all, and the very wealthy don't tend to make most of their income from punching a clock.
Alsadius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:31:16 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True, but the increase in marginal tax rates as you go up in income more than compensates for that. It's possible that there's a drop between the million-a-year crowd and the 100-million-a-year crowd, but the government's stats don't get into that fine a detail, so it's hard to say for sure. Insofar as the government gives us numbers, though, they increase every time you go up in income.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:21:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or be a church. Or sue the IRS in such volume that they give up and let you claim you're a church.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:06:50 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or be poor.
Source: get a refund every year.
ghsghsghs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:34 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm probably what you consider rich. Haven't been able to avoid paying taxes.
Surprisingly as I made more money I had to pay more money and a higher percentage of my money.
Fetus_Soup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:48:43 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or a church
Temporyacc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or work a low paying job
Lyn1987 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or be a perpetual college student
DoctorOctagonapus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:30:52 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're a criminal either way, it's just if you're rich you're more likely to get away with it.
Blindweaponsfumbler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:26 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe a bit semantic, but there are wonderful legal ways to "avoid" certain taxes and reduce the amount you pay and people should try to do this. The problem comes when you "evade" taxes.
randomascanbe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:50:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only 2 things are guaranteed in life, death and taxes..
TehSalmonOfDoubt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:55:31 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless the above is true
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:11:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So in terms of tax evasion, very rich=criminal.
Deviant_B ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:39:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I could not believe that anyone was that fucking stupid, but I actually had someone who earnestly believed that capital letters thing try to convince me it was true.
They weren't the kind of person there was any point in trying to have an actual discussion with so I just had to give them a "oh wow, I hadn't heard that before. I'll have to look into that more sometime" and just grit my teeth lol
notjawn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:09:36 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I DECLARE BANKRUPTCY!
The_Prince1513 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:01:04 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't have to pay your taxes if you give up your citizenship!
This works especially well if you just made 2 billion dollars .
See: Eduardo Saverin
F117Landers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:33 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, the US requires you to pay exit taxes (up to 10 years) if you cede US citizenship.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You actually have to pay what is a "fuck you" tax to the government. I dont work in industry anymore but i believe the first 2 million is exempted and then you pay a fairly heavy "exit fee" to renounce as a wealthy individual.
And you will be subject to your new countries tax regulations.
So yes. Pay your taxes.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:03:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't paid since leaving the army. I have worked odd temp jobs every once in a while but its been like 5 years and I haven't even looked because I'm afraid to. No mortgage though, so idk how they would keep track of me.
ssshield ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:25:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dont be scared. Just went through that. Went to s real accountant. Fessed up. He laughed. He charged me 500 and a week later he found they pwed me 5k. No harm no foul. Just do it now and dont wait longer.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dont be afraid. The IRS is actually very forgiving if you are the one that comes forward and clears things up. If you have only worked odd jobs you will only face some penalties and interest and if you are nice the IRS agent may even work a deal with you and they will help you set up a payment plan.
If they find you however... you are in for a rough ride.
titsrule23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:07:06 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There was a thread a few weeks ago that said taxes were voluntary to file, that's why if you said you got income from drugs, you could be prosecuted, as you gave up your right to not self incriminate. How does that work?
BScatterplot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:24:29 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not voluntary to pay your taxes. That's a myth.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:39:21 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its a misnomer. We do have a "voluntary" tax system on paper because we are the one doing the tax calculation not the government.
A lot of my clients would fire back with "but they force me to withhold!! Thats not voluntary!"
Taking money from your check isnt paying taxes. Its just setting the money aside (technically). You tell the government when you file how much you actually owe and they take your word for it unless you are audited.
ArcboundChampion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:15:44 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait what?
I fill out government forms in all caps as a matter of habit... How could anyone think that does anything?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:36:17 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look up sovereign citizens. Basically domestic terrorists.
LeakyLycanthrope ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because they think laws are magic spells that have to be invoked with exactly the right words and exactly the right ingredients, instead of words written and applied by human beings.
cptslashin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:29 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't fuck with the IRS.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For most people you really dont have a choice, it comes out of your paycheck anyway.
GrandDukeOfNowhere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you don't have to pay your taxes if you own 2 companies, 1 in the UK and 1 in Switzerland, then at the end of the tax year your British company "loans" all of it's money to your Swiss company, so that your British company has made ยฃ0 profit and therefore doesn't need to pay taxes and your Swiss company has actually made a loss and so doesn't need to pay taxes either.
SazzeTF ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:33:35 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's... that's not how it works.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:35:40 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FYI... loaning money hits the balance sheet not the income statement. So this idea doesn't work.
Budborne ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:37:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
According to the Panama Papers, you CAN. If you have enough money.
SazzeTF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:17 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's generally not actually paying no tax at all but just very low. Say the country you and your company resides in has 25% taxes on profits: "Your" Panama company bills your other company some random shit and therefor ships over the money to Panama. Taxes in Panama is like 10% so you've lowered your tax bill with 15%. If your profit was a $100 million USD you've gone from paying $25 million to $10 million. Pretty nifty.
-d0ubt ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:49:31 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, just 'donate' a shit ton to a political candidate and 'suggest' they give you a bit of a tax break. You are a 'job creator' after all.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:44:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Politicians cant just waive your taxes. Thats not how that works at all.
-d0ubt ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:22:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True, they run on a platform of lower taxes, but when they get into office, 90% of promised tax cuts end up going to the donor class while everyone else seem minimal change.
TropicalPenguins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:49 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Care to share an example of that with us?
-d0ubt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obama and google
tyrrannothesaurusrex ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:23:03 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get paid under the table?
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:49:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uhh.. You don't have to file taxes if you made less than a certain amount. IRS still recommends that you do just for record purposes.
RiverBirch1 ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 16:20:29 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When on a brand medication, you can get a discount on your copay as long as you are not a federal employee or have medicare or medicaid. Just google the name and find the manufacturer program.
If it's a medication that is costing you thousands, you likely don't have to pay a penny for it. They just want you on the drug. They only make money if you are on it.
Source: work for one of those programs.
Salammar77 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 19:25:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As someone that works in a clinic and deals with no/low income patients...I appreciate what you do so much. In fact, some of the expensive drugs sometimes would give a patient a pre-paid credit card to also cover copays. ( I doubt this is still the case because they often used it to buy other things and when they came to us there where no funds left lol.)
RiverBirch1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:11:55 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some drug programs give a credit card but it only works with the credit card machine at the doctor's office and then we make sure we get a claim from the doctor to make sure the MD isn't cheating us either. ;)
tokes_4_DE ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:53:33 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...... I pay 220 dollars or so in scripts a month, and you just saved me 150 of that. Bless you Internet stranger <3
chopstyks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:03:09 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. Recently got a prescription for Xarelto for dealing with my second DVT (in my thirties). The hematologist gave me a card to take to the pharmacist that got me a month's supply for free.
etelrunya ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:53:13 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes! I have a Gilead copay card that waives the copay for my prescription for Truvada. It's the best! :D
Ikaruseijin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:51:54 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. I am a beneficiary of this since my immune modifying 'biologics' are crazy expensive. I get partly covered by insurance but the rest is the company's subsidy program. They pay the pharmacy I work with, so I never see the money or the transaction. It just arrives at the clinic. (they deliver it to them since it's an IV medication.)
hthu ยท 430 points ยท Posted at 08:49:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Airline tickets. If you want to fly from A to B, try look for a ticket that flies from A to C with a stop at B. Sometimes, surprisingly, that's cheaper, and you just get off at B and don't look back. Now, for this to work, you obviously can't have checked luggage.
the_old_w4ys ยท 254 points ยท Posted at 10:30:28 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't this the whole idea behind the skiplag debacle?
emr1028 ยท 267 points ยท Posted at 11:17:59 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, and you will get blacklisted from the airline for doing this. Not really worth it.
mikronaut ยท 87 points ยท Posted at 15:29:43 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You shouldn't, it's your ticket that you paid for... if you would, then just pretend to miss your flight.
WhosFamousNotMe ยท 135 points ยท Posted at 16:00:40 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The airline's not providing a public service; you can do it the first time with said airline since you paid for it, but they have every right to bar you from paying them again and doing the same thing in the future.
singularineet ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:45:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
That's not really true: they are a "common carrier" and required to act like one. If they were to lose their common carrier status, by failing in the duties required of a common carrier (which means basically taking anyone), they'd be utterly screwed.
mrdeadsniper ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 19:15:32 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like the not a public service is a bit of a grey area. They get lots of tax breaks and services provided by the government.
Kind of like internet providers or public university. Doesn't mean you have an unconditional right of use, but pretending it isn't subsidized by tax payers is dishonest.
bg-j38 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:50 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you ever want to be slightly horrified look into everything going on around internet providers and not being considered a public utility. At least in the US the FCC has two classifications: telecommunications provider and information provider. Telecommunications providers are much more heavily regulated than information providers. It's in the ISPs' best interest to be categorized as an information provider and for the most part they are. It's a big regulatory issue the last few years.
mikronaut ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:02:08 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's true.
7LeagueBoots ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:12:37 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except that many airlines will try to hold the plane (for a short time) for the last passenger. Even a short additional delay on the ground costs a ridiculously large amount of money and screws with everyone's scheduling.
If you're going to do something like that the responsible thing is to call the airline and explain that you'll be missing the next leg of the flight for whatever made up reason you give them.
LeakyLycanthrope ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:56:52 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're taking a seat away from another paying customer on the flight from B to C. It might not make a direct financial difference to the airline, but it's still kind of a dick move toward that potential customer who legit wants to get from B to C.
mikronaut ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:45:03 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Point taken. ;)
leftysarepeople2 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:48:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but it's a private company, they can do what they want
Neapola ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:56:17 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are rules against it though, so it doesn't matter that you paid for the ticket since you broke the rules. Also: you can sometimes get a round trip ticket plus a one way ticket for less money than buying a round trip ticket alone, but that's illegal too. Here's an example of how it works (I did this years ago): Let's say you want to fly overseas for a two month trip. It's cheaper to buy a round trip ticket for one week. Use this to fly abroad but don't use the return ticket (let it go to waste). Then, buy a one way ticket to get you home. It's often cheaper than buying one round trip ticket for a long stay abroad.
It's cheaper - and there are rules against it.
I_already_reddit_ ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:07:33 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I work in this industry, and yes. We will cancel your subsequent flights if you miss one in your itinerary. An empty seat on an airplane is lost money to the airline. Don't do this.
strp ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:12:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand. The seat's been paid for, it's just not being used. Why is it a problem?
I_already_reddit_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:22:43 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because it could be sold again. That and people often try to get refunds for the flight they "missed"
TheGodfather3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:54:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really? I've Never tried it but didn't know you get blacklisted
Bran_Solo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:59 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only if you do it a lot.
Hidden city ticketing and fuel dumping are pretty actively working, and the communities that use them try to guard the secrets.
spryfigure ยท 102 points ยท Posted at 12:05:15 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the airline can cancel your return flight if they are onto you. Works only for one-way trips.
[deleted] ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 12:25:08 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This. My MIL recently had a giant debacle where she missed a flight from Baltimore to Chicago, rented a car and drove to Pittsburgh, caught a cheap flight to Chicago on the same airline, and then found out that the airline cancelled her flight back because she had been a no show on her first flight. If the airline doesn't show you as having arrived at your destination, good luck getting that return flight... Or your money back when they cancel you.
FLTiger02 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:40:36 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When my flight got diverted and the original airline booked me on another airline they canceled my return flight.
zoomshoes ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:31:35 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe they should change the price of the A to B flight to the price of the A to B to C flight, and then be able to book someone on the B to C flight without it being this big issue.
RebootTheServer ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's complex
adamrsb48 ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 22:53:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you misspelled MILF.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:42:48 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude. Wtf. It stands for Mother in Law. It's a pretty commonly used and understood initialize...
adamrsb48 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 14:05:17 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude. Wtf. It was a simple joke. It's pretty common for reddit users to do that.
mrdeadsniper ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:16:47 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The funny thing is they rely on no shows. Many flights are overbooked assuming a set percentage will miss their flight.
HeartShapedFarts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:23:54 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not can, will. They will cancel your return flight. If you don't show up for a leg, everything after that gets canceled. Every airline does this.
IHateMyHandle ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 14:06:54 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For this to also work, your flight can't be rerouted. If the airline decides to bump you to a different flight that has a different layover location, your kinda screwed.
XAM2175 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:02:59 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's called "hidden-city" or "throw-away" ticketing and many airlines specifically prohibit it in their Conditions of Carriage, so it's not really a loophole - it's just that the trouble of going after people for it is generally not worth it.
In addition, it is generally only workable in the first place in the USA because of the way airlines there structure their networks and price their flights. To control demand and increase yield on "non-stop" flights, their prices are inflated compared to connecting itineraries where the passenger makes one or more connections in smaller hubs along the way - for example, flying NYC-LAX via somewhere in the Midwest.
In most other parts of the world, airline networks are not really structured the same way. Try doing it in Australia with Qantas, for example, and your connecting flight itinerary will almost always cost more than the direct flight.
Also, as other posters have noted, an unexplained no-show on any flight in your itinerary will usually result in the automatic cancellation of the rest of the flights on that ticket.
bg-j38 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:37:35 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also for anyone who travels regularly and is part of a frequent flyer program, they will notice and they will possibly cancel your account, erase all of your miles, and revoke your status. I fly so much that I would never risk this.
TalkingButthole ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:28:50 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or, if you want to fly from A to B, book a ticket from A to C because based on your decision-making track record, you're probably better off not following your instincts. And I'm sure C is lovely and if you could stop being so stubborn and closed-minded about things, you'll realize that C has a lot of positives that you didn't even consider, like it's lively arts scene and funky antiques row. Look, I know that Sheryl was from B, but she doesn't live there anymore and you're not going to re-establish a connection with her by hanging around those same bars from 15 years ago. Just let it go, ok?
giveitago ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:30:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://skiplagged.com/
Dr-NguyenVanPhuoc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:53:52 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
just tried the site but it's not that great, actually. searched for some cheap flights but flights.google.com always found a cheaper offers
TheScienceNigga ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:26:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This seems to me like it wouldn't really work well outside of the US. Normally, if you change at an airport, they will be two separately scheduled flights. For example, if I were to fly from Stockholm to Paris, I could just buy a Stockholm to Rome ticket via Paris, but I could also just buy a ticket for the exact same Stockholm to Paris flight because they are scheduled separately.
WVAviator ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:50:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also
Locate a friend or relative who is employed by an airline, and very nicely ask if they can spare a buddy pass. They are not allowed to sell them, and a lot of people end up not using theirs. Buddy passes will allow you to fly for free on a space-available basis.
Source: Am airline employee and the majority of my buddy passes have been used by my wife's work acquaintances (not even close friends). Also last year 8 of mine went unused (I get 12 a year, each worth one one-way-ticket).
DoctorOctagonapus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:33:35 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can do the opposite for this on the train. To get from A to B, it's sometimes cheaper to buy a ticket from A to C, and C to B, where C is a stop on the same line. Sometimes that's cheaper than one ticket all the way. If the conductor's feeling particularly dickish he can make you get off the train and get back on.
Disclaimer this only works in countries where the train system is as fucked as the UK.
XAM2175 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:41 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did that once in Australia where I was combining a walk-up single ticket with a particularly obscure season pass, after a rule change really cut back on circumstances on which you could use singles as "extension" tickets.
Conductor told me she'd let it slide as long as I set foot on the platform at ticket changeover station.
reallifedog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:19 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that's a great way to have your return ticket cancelled.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:57 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, I found this out in accident. Was flying somewhere and was meeting a friend that was driving (we live on opposite sides of the country, but the stop was about 5 hours from him). Anyhow, I had a layover in his city and thought that maybe a ticket to his city would be cheaper. NOPE, 25% more or so to fly less.
I ended up flying the whole way because an hour layover and 45 minute flight is better than a 5 hour drive
sand_eater ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:17 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get why anyone would want a one way ticket to B without any luggage though.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:40 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I did this to save 50 dollars on my flight and my flight B was canceled due to weather and I had to sleep at the airport in a state I've never been in. Instead of the flight taking an extra 2 hours to save 50 dollars it took an extra 25 hours
MechanicalEngineEar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:35:08 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
don't plan on a round trip though. on the way back when you attempt to get back on the plane, you will likely have had your ticket cancelled because you never finished your first flight, and didn't take the first leg of the flight back. also, no refunds.
TinierRumble449 ยท 356 points ยท Posted at 08:39:20 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is there anybody in this comment section that knows what a loophole is?
OrezRekirts ยท 224 points ยท Posted at 11:44:39 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
here's a loophole, when you're tying your shoes, you put one shoelace through another and you're now able to walk freely with no loose laces
Also rumor has it that if you say aglet 3 times afterwards the shoefairy comes.
Extra_Excrement ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 14:08:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You make a loop de loop and pull, and your shoes are looking cool!
JulioCesarSalad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:54 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Will the shoefairy bring me some sick kicks?
joshi38 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:33 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, you make a loop and you put it through the hole, how is that not a loophole?
Farnsworthson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:54 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Nah, she just gets a bit breathless. It's excitement that someone still actually knows what an aiglet is.
[deleted] ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 12:57:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is an un-intended effect of rules and policy systems which allows people or or groups to benefit in ways contrary to the intent of those rules or policies. This usually occurs where aspects/limitations of one system meet another. System incompatibilities like banning "elicit" internet content intending to eradicate child porn; the language system doesn't offer proper constraints on the term "elicit" and we end up banning equally tasteful content. A great example of loopholes were the creative ways alcohol was legally sold or distributed during prohibition. The laws allowed alcohol to be used as medicine and the laws made no limitation on labeling. I have heard reports that many people (most notably Winston Churchill) would be prescribed "unlimited" doses of alcohol for made up maladies. As for the labeling, many people report that wine companies would print large warning labels on bottles of grape juice explaining what NOT to do to allow the juice to ferment into wine. Whether either is true I am too lazy to check at the moment, but they are great examples of "loopholes" in the rules....aaaaannnd I just realized your question was rhetorical. Fuck it I'm committing to this response.
Torvaun ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 15:26:55 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So you know, the word would be "illicit".
mothstuckinabath ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:57:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah his post was pretentious, I appreciate your factual correction. Yes, most of the people in this thread know what loopholes are.
askmethewifi ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:08:38 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
but the "fermentation" part is true. An explained loophole really isn't a loophole though.
gcz77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:07:12 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Truly a top notch response.
RebootTheServer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:15:50 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Evidently it is fraud
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:28:47 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a hole that loops, something like a water slide.
SmellyPenis69 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:47:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or when gay men performing 69, mouth-dickhole-mouth-dickhole loophole.
Esoteric_Erica ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:54:29 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, some guy called Dave
MZM204 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:06 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
is peanut butter a loophole???
MGubser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:15:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Has anybody in this family even SEEN a loophole!?
fizzy_fuzzy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:35 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
An example is a tall narrow hole in the wall of a fort. The soldiers inside can fire their weapons at oncoming enemies while staying relatively well protected.
Bran_Solo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:53:45 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's the name for one of those windows in a castle that's really tall and skinny.
QuineQuest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here's a loophole: If an AskReddit thread asks for loopholes, just give any kind of general advice. Free karma!
And another one: For any AskReddit thread, complain about how the answers aren't actually answering the question at hand. Bonus points for starting your post with ITT or being passive aggressive about it.
TinierRumble449 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:06 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Yeah I don't give a shit about karma, I was just looking forward to reading a cool thread only to discover that barely any of the replies actually answered the OP.
SmellyPenis69 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:45:54 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, but I know what a lubed-hole is.
[deleted] ยท 122 points ยท Posted at 14:16:28 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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pr-unit ยท 132 points ยท Posted at 15:47:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For Android users, use YouTube on Firefox, it will let you play in the background
poorly_timed_leg0las ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:32:08 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or use the mini browser and you can just minimise it and keep opening and closing as you like
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:08:44 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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perpetuallytemporary ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:49 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For me firefox was way less buggy than newpipe, but YMMV
tdug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:39:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
On my Nexus 6P, the videos play in the background by default with the native app. Or maybe it's a setting I enabled. I dunno.
Edit: I pay for Google Music Unlimited, which may affect it by giving me YouTube Red.
TNSGT ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:55:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This was a year ago for me, but Google Play Music or Youtube Red would allow background playing of Youtube videos. It may be one of those?
Momorules99 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:13:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, that is a YouTube Red feature, but a subscription to that is also a subscription to Google Play Music so if you have one you have the other.
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RGB3x3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:49:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is. I can upload all my music to Google Play to listen to it anywhere, offline play, playlists, unlimited streaming, Podcasts, and a better designed app. I love it and with the $15 family subscription for up to 6 people, it's far cheaper.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't like how it handled podcasts but that is probably because I like beyondpod so much.
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crustalmighty ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:38:04 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's 100x louder.
Sean1708 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:45 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know about other platforms but the Mac app burns 100% CPU for no justifiable reason and the Android app's UI is slow as balls, the music plays fine but it takes 10 minutes for the menus to load.
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Sean1708 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:58:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
S4 mini, not exactly new but it shouldn't be this bad. Of course the other alternative is that I'm only noticing it when it's slow.
BretticusWins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I disagree. The UI isn't as nice, in my opinion.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For me it doesn't! Maybe I have to find this setting
WVAviator ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:45:57 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did not know this. Thank you so much. I would upvote on all my alts (if I were interesting enough to have alts)
Amalion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you! Today I thought about that and how to make it real.
not_a_miscarriage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aaaaaaaaaaaaa I love you
Barnowl79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god you just changed my life
defectiveawesomdude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:51:12 on July 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or download the YouTube background playback Xposed module
mitchell271 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:07:54 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or you could use the TubeX app, a third-party Youtube app. Less ads, and allows you to play in the background, or just play audio. That way, if you're listening to a music stream, you don't have to use the data to download the whole video, it's just the audio portion!
Quantum_Wrangler ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:52:18 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or download Tubex
theodore33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:42 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LPT: on IPhone 6 at least, all you need to do to use other apps while having it play is:
1) hit home
2) swipe up to open the control center
3) hit play
4) open other app
Legendaryshitlord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:55:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or if you want to use other apps, just switch to them and swipe from the bottom the same lock screen menu shows up.
shafiqde ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:35 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow so much for YouTube Red/Music!!
elyisgreat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or just use Musi
Paul-ish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:04 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you are at home, casting to Chromecast also lets you lock your phone or use other apps.
Zequl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:48:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or just buy youtube red
KenChoi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why do people care about using YouTube when your phone is closed. The point is its a video. There are so many cheaper and better quality music options. It really doesn't make sense.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:16:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:52 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hell no i dont pay for any internet subscriptions
DankSouls1337 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:06:01 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because it's totally available everywhere
Scaphismus ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 21:34:40 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jury Nullification
In short, a jury in the United States can find a person not guilty, even if they believe that the accused did indeed commit the crime.
This can be used to nullify the law in cases where the jury determines that the law is wrong, and that the accused--while guilty as charged--does not deserve any punishment.
Of course, judges and lawyers hate this loophole, and will do everything in their power to exclude jurors that support, or even know about, jury nullification.
theshoegazer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:25:12 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's pretty rare because it takes the entire jury to agree on it.
A single juror can, in many cases, hold out until a Hung Jury is declared. However, if you're the one holdout you're going to be under immense pressure from 11 other people (and a judge) who may feel strongly for their argument.
Phantom_61 ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 17:38:17 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're on a phone call and suffering through an automated system that only accepts voice prompts use nonsensical words that sound nothing like your given options.
The system will eventually (5 tries usually) route you to a live operator.
I use this trick regularly when dealing with prescription insurance companies.
If you get an operator you think may not be local to your area ask them to transfer to an "on shore" representative.
Ilikegeometrysowhat ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:06:29 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just jam 0 repeatedly
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:45:56 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
talk to them anyway, they will have the info you need by definition. Don't be one of those weirdos who refuse to talk to people overseas just 'cause they don't like the phone cable getting wet or whatever the hell it is.
Phantom_61 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:05:00 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In some cases they won't help you.
Speaking from experience Medicare plans (D are the plans I deal with most often) require an instant reroute to an on shore rep. Some private plans as well, I've simply gotten into the habit of asking for an on shore rep at this point to avoid having to repeat all the info yet again.
hesaidshesaid9 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:28:43 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This also works half the time if you push a bunch of numbers randomly :)
dirtymoney ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:10:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
also, cursing will sometimes do it too. Dammit!
Hitting the 0 (operator) sometimes work as well.
also, if the low level phone rep wont cooperate ... ask to speak with a supervisor. I got night vs day treatment doing that. Low level rep refused a refund of a late payment fee and the supervisor did it with absolutely no problem. And I wasnt a dick about it.
OzRockabella ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:37 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just say "Operator" and they will usually connect you to a real person
Phantom_61 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:02:28 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've had three different insurance companies hang up on me (The automated system) for that because it wasn't an option.
If the words you're speaking make ZERO sense then the system assumes there is a problem and routes you to a human.
notafraid1989 ยท 287 points ยท Posted at 08:05:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't want to get a girl pregnant? There are actually two loopholes.
SickNDick ยท 76 points ยท Posted at 09:28:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why does no one in this thread know what a loophole is?
t-- ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 10:56:36 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
its like a whole with a loop. like in sonic the hedgehog
FishyWulf ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:50:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A whole with a hole.
CylonGlitch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:47:11 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ohhh loophole, he thought you said poophole.
Klove128 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:02 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The people's peephole poophole loophole?
laaaaax ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or a joke
Farnsworthson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:57 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A stick that dogs pee on?
FrenklanRusvelti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:59 on October 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not movies
GayWarden ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:28:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Loophole=Lifehack
/s
PrashnaChinha ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 09:35:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Coathangers, and... ?
FinnJakeBMO ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 10:54:52 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the poophole loophole
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:16:42 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The ploophole
Macky9326 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 10:33:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Coat hangers? Easy there Mr Moneybags
determinedforce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There goes one loophole. I use plastic hangers.
ConstableBlimeyChips ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 10:02:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why spend money on a coathanger? It doesn't cost anything to fall down the stairs.
fiberwyre ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:59:49 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stairs? Slow down J.P. Morgan
DiscordsTerror ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:43 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea but it costs money to maintain some good pushing stairs
dedreo ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 12:04:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's why I always warn SOs that if they ever decide to surprise me with such news, make sure we aren't near any stairs for the first few minutes.
Offthepoint ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:38:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does not work. My sis was 6 months pregnant and fell down a flight of stairs when the fetus leaned on a leg nerve. Her doc checked her out and said, "don't worry, you can't shake a good apple off the tree". Baby was born healthy.
AskMeAboutMyBandcamp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:48:45 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Poopholes.
SierraGolf17 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:37:32 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes, God's Loophole
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:00:42 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aha there it is! The people's peephole poophole loophole reference.
NotALicensedDoctor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:32:32 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was waiting for it!!
HopalikaX ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:11:59 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be a dummy, squirt on her tummy!
DiscoFerry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:24:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pfft. Amateur
Wilreadit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, the poophole loophole
AzorAhaiIsJonSnow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:46:47 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is one the ol' poophole loophole?
InYeBooty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:19:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you've confused a loophole with the poophole
theFunkiestButtLovin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:42 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the poophole loophole?
Dabeston ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Condoms and abstinence
JustSeanAgain ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:49:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But if there's a hole in your loop it won't work.
Babarkj ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 16:20:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't make eye contact with guards when walking into a building. Talk on the phone or look at the elevators with full affirmation. They will think you work/live there.
fayetteville_head ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:58:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same works when leaving places like Walmart where they sometimes spot check your bags.
Brewsleroy ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:36:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't stopped for those ladies in years. They don't have any right to check my personal property. I smile and say no thanks when they ask if they can check my bags then keep walking.
thaswhaimtalkinbout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:42 on July 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i smile and say "no thanks, not today" and keep moving. as if they're homeless dudes asking for spare change.
MaskedBandit1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:10:37 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I do. Always act like you are supposed to be doing whatever it is you are doing, even if you are not lol
determinedforce ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:45:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Act like you own the place I always say.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:52:43 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is a vague attempt at a trick, rather than a loophole.
tossme68 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:13:27 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've made it inside secure buildings this way (not intentionally). It helps if you look semi-professional, if you are wearing a suit and tie people will hold the door for you and hardly ever check for your badge. As a side note, this works 8 out of 10 times and the other 2 will not go over well.
theFunkiestButtLovin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:01:35 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you make that sound like it's something you should do when entering any building.
HerpaDerpaShmerpadin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:56 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Entering The Kremlin.
RusselltheKing ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 18:30:20 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Free Stock photos - find the image you want (w/ watermark), do a reverse image search in Google, set image options to high res only and boom. Save yourself hundreds.
gwiss ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 21:46:50 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Save yourself hundreds"
Until your legal fees.
SoulSonick ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:28:35 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. However I think this (if it actually works) might come in very useful if you are just looking for images for student/private work that you aren't releasing publicly or seeking to profit off of somehow. I think you should be alright if you are only using these images for a private portfolio of student/speculative work.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:04:50 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Google also lets you search by image rights, so set your search options to "Labeled for reuse" if you're worried about legalities. You can often find what you are looking for.
the_agox ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:30:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go on Flickr and search for Creative Commons licensed photos
FrostyBlowmanSnowman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:21 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:17:03 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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FrostyBlowmanSnowman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:28 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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communish ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:36:42 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Saving this
bregottextrasaltat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:24:21 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Licensing though
supernblock ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:47:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, I don't get it. Are you supposed to see the same stock image without water marks, or similar ones?
FrostyBlowmanSnowman ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:26:35 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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flym4n ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:52:00 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Loophole: stealing
HobbyWanKenobi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:09 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A shortcut for this is hold down the S key and right click any image to do reverse image search
SmoSays ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:29:10 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or you go to deviant art and look in the 'resources and stock photos' section, and boom, free (legal) stock photos. Can't find what you need? Message the stock photo artists, many take requests.
doggieassassin ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:13:21 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't work. You might find the same picture in higher resolution but it will be full of watermarks.
[deleted] ยท 192 points ยท Posted at 06:07:50 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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_stiltskin ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 06:58:49 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man. I had quite the debate with my brother in law about this recently. I tend to bulk cook once a month or so, and freeze the meals to be reheated when I get home from work. I'll usually spend > $100 on produce, etc. and that will last my husband and I 3 to 4 weeks.
My brother in law, however, is insistent that he saves at least $80 per week by eating out for lunch and dinner. If he is really saving that much, I'd hate to think what his grocery bill was previously...
WazzaMatta92 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:59:03 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eating out lunch and dinner every day has to be at the very least $20 a day. Even if it's just five days a week, that's how much you're saying you used in that 3-4 week period. I don't understand how that argument lasted more than a couple sentences before he realized how wrong he was.
TonySoprano420 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:12:35 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on what you eat, and how many mouths.
WazzaMatta92 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:48:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I regularly cook for friends who come by my place, anywhere from 3 to 6 people, I have made plenty of meals for everyone that cost less than or equal to if we all got a cheap takeout meal. It is also healthier food and the portions are usually greater than the fast food equivalent. Time is the only factor that I can see being a big deterrent to this way, which is completely reasonable.
TonySoprano420 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:21:37 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not a deterrent when you're feeding 6 people. I feed myself.
I can go to the halal stand on the corner for 6 bucks. It's hard to get motivated to cook at that.
WazzaMatta92 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:11:21 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know what you mean, personally I really enjoy cooking and taking the time to do so for myself as well as others. But also, for example, 6 dollars can get you a pound of chicken breast and four good sized sweet potatoes. You can cook all that in your oven and quickly (~30 minutes) have chicken and sweet patatoe fries for 2 or 3 meals. Everyone's for their own preference though, not saying there is a definitive answer as to which is the best option.
stdfactory ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:23:07 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I found chicken thighs for $.95/lb last month so I bought 60 lbs. I marinated it all three different ways(teriyaki, bbq rub, and a tandoori rub) and grilled it all up before chunking it and freezing it in individual family portions. I have never had a cheaper or easier month of cooking dinner in my life. I would get home and only have to cook the sides then throw in the meat. Looking forward to the next time I see that sale.
perpetuallytemporary ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:20 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can easily eat out for under $10 per meal, usually under $3 or $4....$10 is a pretty nice meal. When people say it's cheaper to eat out they mean off the dollar menu not a nice take-out meal.
fayetteville_head ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:51:17 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me and my husband.*
:)
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 21:48:03 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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spudmix ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:20:17 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, let's do exactly that.
You fucked up.
fayetteville_head ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:36:39 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
That's true. But the same holds true for objects of a sentence and prepositional phrases. In this case, you don't buy bread "for I," you buy it "for me."
jterrance ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:35:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do you know what you'll be hungry for tonight, let alone every day for a month?!
_stiltskin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:12:32 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I usually cook four or five dishes at a time, so there is variety to choose from
PabloBablo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:15:33 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Details on your meal plan?
_stiltskin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:17 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't have much of a "plan" as such. I'm vegetarian though, and it's winter here, so hearty veggie stews, chilli and lentil curries are my faves at the moment. I don't eat a lot of pasta, but make and freeze my own pasta sauces for when I feel like it.
SpehlingAirer ยท 90 points ยท Posted at 06:33:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The part that sucks, is sometimes it's not. Example: if I want a pizza, I could buy ingredients to make pizza, but the cost of all those ingredients would come to more than the $5.30 I can pay for a Little Caesar's Hot n' Ready right down the road. Now you could say the ingredients would grant me multiple pizzas, and that's a valid point, but if I just want a single pizza for a single meal there is no way in hell making it on my own would be cheaper.
somedude456 ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 07:48:57 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm with ya. Every time I want tacos, after I buy decent beef, shells, cheese, salsa, etc I'm out $15. Yeah it's two meals, but $15 is also two trips to Chipotle.
theFunkiestButtLovin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:45:57 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
holy shit. the ingredients for basic tacos where i live would be at least $25 before all is said and done.
cheese: $5
meat: $10
shells: $3
salsa: $3
seasoning: $1.50
and thats without any luxury items like sour cream or avocado.
bobby8375 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:29:16 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How much meat, cheese, and seasoning do you put on your tacos??? Here, $10 of ground beef is 2-3 pounds, which should be good for like 20 tacos.
theFunkiestButtLovin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:30:38 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your beef is 3-5 per pound? Yeah, It's closer to 10 a pound here.
bobby8375 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:04 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The US national average for regular ground beef was a little over $4/lb in 2015 but fell back under $4 in 2016, according to USDA. The most expensive thing I saw on the chart was boneless sirloin steak, which was still under $9/lb for at least the last 2 years - that would be a really gourmet taco.
theFunkiestButtLovin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:26 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude those prices are half of what I have at the stores here. It's just expensive to live in Boulder.
bobby8375 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:33:09 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then maybe you really should just eat chipotle.
DamonS ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 09:09:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bake some tortilla instead of buying shells. Buy the individual ingredients and make a batch of taco seasoning. Instead of buying salsa just use canned diced tomatoes, taco seasoning and chopped green chillies.
This should greatly reduce your taco expenses.
Lips-Between-Hips ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 09:25:49 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brb gonna catch some cow eggs
skineechef ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:32:44 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm. Report back, I guess.
_Dreamer_Deceiver_ ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 10:02:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Effort....
ripper1134 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:56:28 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Chipotle recipes are actually really simple though, learning a bit of cooking and food preparing could go beyond the meal youre making now. There really isn't any secrets to the recipes to what we make in-house.
strangeronteinternet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:37:39 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're already putting in the effort to make them yourself, why not go the extra mile.
Isn't that the whole point to making it yourself and not buying them? You either have time/effort to make them yourself, or no money to buy them premade.
BattleHall ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:20:28 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of that is going to come down to your options. If you have a taco truck around the corner laying down carne asada and carnitas on homemade corn tortillas and half a dozen house salsas on tap, all for a buck and a quarter per, you're pretty much never going to beat that at home unless you're cooking for a party.
jterrance ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:06 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm lucky enough to live in a mecca of amazing and cheap mexican food but when I'm in the mood for tacos, for $10 I can get a bag of homemade tortilla chips, a container of freshly (and professionally) made salsa, two tacos of my choosing, ie. one chicken, one barbacoa, along with a side of homemade refried beans and rice.
I do have to go pick it up, though. That part always bums me out.
Brewsleroy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure all of the spices to make tacos (if you don't have them already on hand) would be more than the $15 just to get Chipotle twice. Spices are really expensive.
Making tortillas requires a lot of ingredients as well. Flour, baking soda, salt, lard (not sure about that one though, it's just listed as an ingredient). So you have to buy a bag of flour, some baking soda, probably some lard. Most people have at least salt laying around the house though. Or you can buy a $2.08, 10 pack of tortillas instead.
Ro Tel diced tomatoes and green chilies is $2 for 28 oz at Walmart. Buying a 6 pack of diced tomatoes is $5.48, plus $1.26 for one can of chopped green chilies, if you do it 6 times that comes out to $7.56. So that ends up being $13.04 for just the vegetables compared to $12 for the Ro Tel. That's not even counting the taco seasoning for each batch. If you want salsa instead of Ro Tel, well that's $5.94 for 64 oz so you're not saving any money buying individual ingredients. You cannot compete with a factory making things in bulk.
Your advice is great if you already have all those things or aren't broke. If broke, $6 to get yourself lunch is cheaper than spending lots of money to buy things to cook for yourself.
yeos_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:18 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If I'm too broke to afford the 15 dollars to go grocery shopping then I'm definitely too broke to spend 6 dollars on a single meal. Potatoes are dirt cheap.
MechanicalEngineEar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:41:13 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you can get a huge container of taco seasoning at sams club for less than $10 that probably has at least enough seasoning to season 20lbs of ground beef for tacos.
Brewsleroy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:31:57 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You also need to pay for a Sams Club membership and have enough money to buy things in bulk and be able to store all that extra food. Please stop acting like everyone has excess money and extra room to store stuff. Living in a studio apartment with a half fridge because you're broke AF doesn't afford you the same luxuries as someone with a good job, a big house, and money to spare.
It is cheaper for a lot of people to pay $6 now to eat instead of paying a couple hundred to get everything they need to fix food. Some people pay that $6 and that's ALL they eat that day. I know it's hard to understand when you haven't been poor (at least you seem that way to me) but believe me, hunger sucks and being so blind about how hard it is to literally just eat when you're poor doesn't help anyone. Saying, "oh just buy all the ingredients and it's cheaper per unit of food you make" is all well and good if you can afford to spend all the money on everything you need to cook all that food. Some people don't even have ovens man, how are they gonna cook all that food on a hot plate?
MechanicalEngineEar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:08:15 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
oh yes, the old "i don't know anything about you, but i will claim you have never been poor and I have been, so any argument you have is automatically defeated because you are a rich jerk"
You don't have to have a sams club membership to by things in decent size quantity.
I am not saying that you can buy all the ingredients to cook an exact duplicate of a Chipotle burrito, that would be a lot of work and expensive, but if you are really so poor, there are plenty of simple to cook meals that cost nearly nothing. you can buy large quantities of rice and beans from walmart (no fancy pantsy samsclub required) and if you are living in a studio apartment and claim you don't have any space to store food, what else is filling up all your space? No one is saying you should store a commercial size quantity of everything, just a few staples.
Brewsleroy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:04:01 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
First off, I never called you a jerk and even explained I just was inferring that you didn't understand being poor. Second, you have to have a sams club member ship to buy things at sams, which is what you were saying to do. Third, have you ever been in a studio apartment? They aren't big, maybe a bed and a dresser can fit in them (at least the ones I was in). What staples should one buy then? I'm not poor anymore but I grew up dirt poor and eating because school had free breakfast/lunch, so someone saying to just "go buy food" does sound like a jerk because they don't know the situation someone else might be in. It's not always that simple.
MechanicalEngineEar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:35 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i have been poor. 6 years of my life I spend living with my grandparents because my parents couldn't even afford someplace to live. yeah, studio apartments are small, but keeping with the mexican theme, you can store dry rice and beans extremely easily. i guarantee there is room in the corner of your room, or under your bed, or any number of places that you could store 10lbs of each of those without problem and they are extremely cheap carb and proteins. If not, you need to get rid of some crap that is cluttering up your life and preventing you from saving money. even without a sams membership, you can buy 10+lb bags of those at walmart quite cheaply.
so, we can have a pissing contest about who grew up more poor, or we can simply look a the numbers and accept that nutritionally sufficient meals can be produced far cheaper than buying premade food like chipotle. Now, the phrase nutritionally sufficient doesn't make people visualize delicious barbacoa burritos with guac, but this argument was never about being willing to pay a premium for more delicious food on a shoestring budget.
Brewsleroy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:04:25 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the thing though, the argument was never about nutritionally sufficient meals. Everyone was literally saying go buy groceries and get all these things to make what you are getting at Chipotle instead of buying chipotle. Obviously if you get a bag of rice and beans it's cheaper. But that was never the argument, people were telling others to just buy more food and again, it's not always that simple. Now you're moving goalposts and saying well just get a bag of rice and beans. Well, no crap that's cheaper but that wasn't the original argument.
MechanicalEngineEar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:27 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
there is a happy medium that is still far more cost efficient than eating out. it might be as simple as you only get one type of salsa instead of getting all 3 types at chipotle, or everyone who is eating gets chicken instead of one person getting chicken, one getting steak, and one getting beef. I think we have different ideas of what the original argument was.
Also, i wasn't suggesting just eating rice and beans alone, just that those are major components that when bought in somewhat large quantities reduces the per service price to nearly nothing.
Brewsleroy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:28 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I think we do have different ideas. To me, it sounded really pretentious and full of "why not just have more money". It's easy to forget what advantages you have when you don't perceive them as advantages was what I was trying to get across I guess.
I wasn't trying to attack you or anything, just trying to get my point across is all.
booklovingrunner ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 14:12:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is your idea of tacos??
hypnotic_daze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:26:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know man, every time I go to Chipotle I spend at least 9 dollars for a fucking burrito bowl, that's with a water cup not a fountain drink. Yea I add guacamole but still, that's about 20 dollars for two meals there. I feel going to the store buying the ingredients I would spend a little less and get an extra meal worth.
somedude456 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:18 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Chicken no guac here is $6.50
hypnotic_daze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ahhh see I go for the steak, that's where the extra $$$ come into play. So I guess it's my own doing.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:40:52 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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yeos_ ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:49:10 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like getting the veggie so I get guac for free and then I'll ask the employee nicely for a second scoop of beans. $6.50
determinedforce ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:35:45 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How many trips to the toilet does that add up to?
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 08:42:32 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's the big cost? A Base is flour, water, salt, yeast and olive/veg oil. After that there's sauce, cheese and toppings.
Do the sauce in bulk and freeze the extra in an ice cube tray for next time it should be super cheap. Chopped tomatoes, sugar, salt, oregano.
Plus when you have the yeast it lasts FOREVER and you can make bread too.
skineechef ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:33:32 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The cheese is your big cost.
One_Half_Of_Tron ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:41:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The investment of your time is a cost, too. It's cheap to make your own pizza dough, but waiting for it to rise properly, shaping, baking, etc. is and investment of several hours, whereas a Hot N'Ready is approximately five minutes and five bucks.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:02 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
20 minutes in a bread maker or any mixer and 20 minutes to rise.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:05:49 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bread makers cost money
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:09 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But saves your time. You don't need to use one. Plus a basic one is about $45
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:20 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's like 8 pizzas!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:59:14 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lets pretend you eat pizza twice a month. That's 24 pizzas a year. Lets pretend each pizza you buy premade is $5.63 as you suggest. In order to pay for itself the 'made with the breadmaker pizza' has to be less than $3.76 to make. If it is then you're saving the difference each time.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:05:17 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Truthfully, I was just messing around (They are 5 dollars and change, though), because this comment chain is speaking specifically of the cost to make 1 pizza, and even goes on to say that multiple pizzas may be cheaper, but one pizza is not.
I have to make all of my own pizzas anyway, (without a bread maker) because I can't eat the glutenz.
ssfgrgawer ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:45:34 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
whoa whoa whoa.... i want a pizza, not a mess!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:07:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bread makers will turn flour, water, salt, yeast and olive/veg oil into amazing fluffy dough for you in about 30 minutes, no mess, no fuss, no getting flour goop in your fingernails.
Just remember to grease up the bread pan first.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:18 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
20 minutes in a bread maker - 10-20 minutes resting in a warm place (or until it doubles in size. I believe after this you can freeze the bases but I haven't tried.
Noyes654 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pizza dough is easy and super cheap. I bake periodically for pleasure and have all the ingredients for bread which I initially spent some 20 bucks on, but I've been using the same supplies, maybe a refill on flour, for a year or two now. Every loaf I make makes all of the previous ones that much cheaper. It's like paying a subscription to somewhere, the more you use it the cheaper every visit gets.
trippymermaid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A bag of flour and a bottle of olive oil alone is more than $5.30
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Since you've used dollars I'll use American units.
7oz of flour does one pizza base, 1tbps of olive oil does one pizza base. Both are items that do not spoil quickly and can be stored for a long time. Lets assume you use olive oil - You can use vegetable oil so I'll add that at the end.
Lets take these two items:
5lb bag of strong white bread flour - $3.89
25.5oz of olive oil - $4.83
A 5lb bag of flour does 8 pizzas, A 25.5oz bottle of olive oil does 40 pizzas.
Flour = $0.49 per Pizza
Olive oil = $0.39 per pizza
Vegetable oil = $2.78 for 76 portions = $0.04 per pizza
So as time goes on you save more and more. Yeast is a bigger investment at $9.99 but this tub will do 184 pizzas so $0.06 per pizza.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:03:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair a good homemade pizza is much better, and as you said you get lots more.
turkturkelton ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:59:06 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually a pre-made dough costs around 2.50, a small can of tomato sauce is 50 cents, and a bag of cheese is 2 bucks.
Nipe7 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 12:31:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure where you live. But here you can't buy a bag of cheese for less than $5.
DeadlyUnicorn98 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:45:40 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
USD or Dollarydoos?
a-r-c ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:39:19 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ask your local italian restaurant
I get a half pound bag of mozz for like 2 bucks, maybe you can find a similar deal!
Torvaun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:11 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Come to Wisconsin.
turkturkelton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:28 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You need to go to the shitty grocery.
loveshercoffee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:43:55 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The real secret to making this work is to keeping certain ingredients on hand at all times. This way you can buy each thing in larger quantities (not necessarily stockpiles, either) when it's on sale.
To make it even cheaper yet, you invest a little time and money up front to grow and preserve some of your ingredients. If you eat a lot of Italian tomato sauce, it's definitely worth it to have what you like for $0.20/jar.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:36:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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SpehlingAirer ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 06:45:50 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on the Little Caesars, my internet stranger friend! ;)
Some of them are cardboard. Some of them are actual pizza. The ones that are actual pizza I personally find to be pretty tasty.
But yeah, exceptions to the rule. In general I would agree with you as a whole.
charpenette ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:08:54 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can never go wrong with Crazy Bread, though.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 06:46:32 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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SpehlingAirer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:49:15 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
While we're on the subject. Pizza. What is your preferred choice?
For me, my favorite is Detroit-Style Pizza. Mmmmmmmm oh man, I love it. I could eat Detroit-style every day and I'd be perfectly OK with that.
Why_Do_We_Fall_Bruce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:50:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
New York Style
SpehlingAirer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:55:39 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ooooooo I've always wanted to try that but I've never been to New York or a place that has it.
blakkstar6 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:54:42 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Please define. The rest of us only know New York and Chicago styles. A precious few of us know the difference between Italian and Sicilian. What is Detroit style pizza?
P.S Bruce: Classic crust pizza with chicken, mushrooms, and tomatoes (fresh, added post-baking), or any other 3 ingredients you like: $10. Less than half the price anywhere else. Take it home, add garlic and some herbs - bam, pizza victory. For $10 and some change... entirely edible.
K. Just clicked your link. No wonder you love Little Caesar's. Thanks for clarifying.
r2d2go ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:59:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of the time it costs more to buy pre-made parts (e.g. pizza dough) than the cheap versions of the finished product (e.g. little caesar's pizza). Pizza dough costs like 2 bucks to buy but flour and yeast costs like 50 cents for the same amount of dough.
Still if you're going by "this is how much I have to go out and buy today", there's always going to be cheaper options. Like, if I only go to Costco, it'll never be cheaper to buy 30 meals worth of ingredients than one meal out.
Gonzobot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:49:37 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you keep ingredients, this isn't an issue. You don't spend several dollars on flour for one pizza, you use pennies worth of flour to make pizza. Ingredients can make more than one thing. Buying supplies to make pizza enables pizza making, whenever you want. Without having to do the math.
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:01:42 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can get 3 decent frozen pizzas for a dollar at the store. No idea how much heating them costs me though. Probably billions of dollars.
eye_can_do_that ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:18:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your math is right but comparing home made pizza to little Cesars is wrong. Compare equal products in terms of taste and quality.
SpehlingAirer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:18 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's fair enough.
acdcfanbill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:46:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What I do is make a bunch of sauce, and buy lots of cheese and freeze them in sizes fit for 1-2 pizzas. Then if I want pizza some night, i'll make the dough in the morning and let some of the sauce/cheese thaw all day, then it's ready to put together in the evening.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:39:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is a non-argument. If you are buying generic products, you can get things really cheap. Get a kilo of flour, you can make as much crust as you want for a few dollars. Get a large bag of cheese (you can get frozen cheese, which is cheaper and come in big bags), you got cheese for whatever uses you may have. Get a pallet of tomato paste, and you can make 24 pizzas for 10 bucks.
If you only look at "single meals" you can rack up the price. If you plan ahead, and assume you may want another pizza in a week, you can buy in bulk, and save money.
To eat cheap, you have to buy bulk, so you need "starting money". You get cheese for 10 pizzas, but you may have to have 7 dollars to afford that. You could get cheese for 1 pizza for 1.50. In the short term, the 1.50 cheese is cheaper, but in the long term, it's the 7 dollar cheese.
jmlinden7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except the ingredients for making a pizza can also be used to make other food. It's not like you make one pizza and then never cook again
BattleHall ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some things scale better than others. Whether or not something is cheaper to make at home will come down to a triumvirate of ingredient costs, speciality equipment costs, and labor costs (both yours and theirs). There's also usually a break even point where you would have to eat this X times per week/month/year for it to be worth it. I cook a ton, and have some pretty esoteric equipment, but you only really save appreciable money on certain dishes.
Cicer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:03 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The part that sucks is when you have to clean up not only the dishes you used to eat with but also the prep dishes.
DrMambo85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:31 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why in the blue fuck would you compare homemade delicious pizza to Little Caesar's diarrhea-inducing tasteless abominations?
LeakyLycanthrope ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:52 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right. If I make my own pizza it's because I want to partake in the act of making pizza. The combined cost and time of making it myself is generally not significantly better than ordering it.
lasercrestwood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:01 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The tax rate where I live is 8.26%, so buying a $5 pizza from Little Caesars is $5.41 and gross compared to what I could make on my own.
Yossi25 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:09 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Especially if you're a single person. God damn, smaller units at grocery stores are always marked up.
One block of cheese for $4.30 or 2 for $6.00. Obviously getting 2 is the better deal, but I barely even need one thus I have to pay more.
The_Voice_of_Dog ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:13:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thing is, you have to loosen the definition of "food" to include Little Caesar's pizza.
It's more like "I can eat real food, made correctly, or I can eat this edible foodlike substance now, for cheap."
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TardisTechnologist ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:12:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is a topic of some discussion in /r/frugal. Some people think that since they earn $40/hr, then doing anything at home that takes an hour and saves less than $40 is not worth it. However, this doesn't stand up unless you would or could otherwise be at work; you think your time is worth $40/hr, but unless you are self employed and can sit down on the computer and earn that $40 in an hour instead of making a meal, your free time isn't worth $40/hr. Most likely your time is only worth $40/hr for 8 hours a day.
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TardisTechnologist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:19:54 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. The long and short of it is that:
Dollar value of your free time =/= your hourly wage.
hicow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:42:03 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also consider the "If I weren't cooking, would I just be fucking around on Reddit?" factor.
I freelance a little this and that, but what I make freelancing isn't necessarily the critical factor, as I don't come home from work and immediately start working side jobs. I need some time to decompress every day, and sometimes part of that decompression might be cooking. Other days, it's, "screw it, I'm running up the street for nachos."
Why_Do_We_Fall_Bruce ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:25:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, I mean bill gates isn't looking to cut corners
seamonster1609 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:34:35 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've weighed the pros and cons of this recently. My problem is that I plan cooking, but often food goes bad. I like Aldi's though for things that don't go bad.. Rice, beans, 33 cents for 80 tortillas? Hells yeah!
MaidMilk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:23:49 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think this is only true if you eat cheap processed foods like hamburger helper. Buying fresh meat and produce is expensive as fuck.
There are a few meals I make that are cheapish, but the vast majority of them work out to about what it costs to eat at a restaurant.
If i factor in the value of the time I spend shopping for the groceries, prepping the food and cleaning up after a meal, it is ALWAYS cheaper to dine out.
The only reason I cook at home is that it's more nutritionally sound.
Jah_Ith_Ber ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:40:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've tried to teach myself how to cook several times. And it is way more expensive to cook something you would expect from a grandma. I made potatoes au gratin, cost me 17 fucking dollars (and 3 hours of my time). And I'm not including buying a large thing that I will only use half of and keep the rest in my cupboard eventually using again. Enchiladas suizas with refried beans and mexican rice cost me over twenty.
I live alone which is part of the problem, and I live in the inner city where grocery stores have you trapped and they know it, which is also part of the problem. But cooking at home is not anywhere near as cheap as people like to think.
MaidMilk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:57:08 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I once made a mushroom risotto that cost $45 dollars in total. And it turns out I hate mushroom risotto. (I tried it at restaurants twice after just to make sure that it wasn't just that I suck. I may suck but I don't like any mushroom risotto.) True story. I feel your pain.
danieltheg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:34:52 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I rarely eat processed foods at home, mainly fresh meat and produce, and most meals come out to like 5 dollars a serving. When I do bulk stuff in the slow cooker I can get it down to half that. When I go for the higher end stuff it's obviously pricier but it's not necessary at all for healthy and tasty meals.
I still eat out a lot cuz it's convenient but I definitely save a ton when I cut down on it.
It's obviously dependent on where you live too, around here restaurants are expensive but grocery stores are average.
ricardjorg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:30:33 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
mind blown
AlonsoFerrari8 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:50:18 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not even close to a loophole
superdude4agzefaggot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:29:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That isn't what a loophole is.
adamrsb48 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:57:28 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man, I've got a pretty good one, too.
If you drink tap water instead of bottled water, you'll save hundreds!
Why_Do_We_Fall_Bruce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:59 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bought a pur filter system years ago. It's awesome. Keep a few nalgeen bottles around. Perfect!
DahliaRoseMarie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:33 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I live in no mans land, and the closest restaurants are over a 30 minutes drive away and then they are all crappy chain resturants or fast food, so I have no choice but to cook all of our meals at home. I can buy the best ingredients and cuts of meat for a lot less than any of the resturants. In fact, the last time we went to one, I was so shocked by how much the bill was for the mediocre meal, and once you include the tip, one lunch with no drinks was equivalent to two days worth of home cooked meals. Now, if we had some decent restaurants by us, I wouldn't be bothered by the extra price because I would justify the extra money as time saved on having to go to the grocery store and cooking the meals. Having said all that... I only wish we had a few good places to go for lunch and dinner. I'd rather spend a few extra bucks for the convenience and extra time to enjoy other things.
Why_Do_We_Fall_Bruce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:54 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man. Live in California, in the heart of Los Angeles, I can't even imagine this.
The-Hindu-Gods ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 16:51:07 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When ordering at Chipotle if you order a burrito bowl you will get significantly more food. They will charge more for extra chicken but if you say stuff like "can you put a lot of rice?" or simply ask for more of the item you want they will usually add more. Plus you can get a tortilla on the side and essentially make your own burrito.
sun_worth ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:23:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless its cheese. They're stingy as fuck with cheese. "Can I get more cheese?" Adds 3 pieces of shredded cheese.
t_angerine ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:37:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Chipotle employee here! We as employees know the amount of stuff we put in your meals. We are trained hard for it. We have a 4oz rule for most ingredients and our salsa cups are exactly 4 oz, so imagine that amount for almost everything. When it comes to cheese, I personally give them more cheese because our standards are fucking shitty, we're supposed to grab it with three fingers only. But really if you are being nice and polite, we are more likely to give you more portions!
sun_worth ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:40:20 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What can I say? She asked me what I wanted on it. I said "chili corn, lettuce, and cheese". I get a fair amount of the other two, and a smidgen of cheese. "Can I have more cheese?" She picks up a pinch of cheese which was probably about 3 bits of shred, puts it in the burrito while giving me a look that said "can I get away with this"?
Did she get away with it? Sure. I paid for the meal. Was it worth it to Chipotle? I don't know. My wife and I haven't been back since (it's been months). Is it worth it to lose two customers over an ounce of cheese? I don't know. Maybe their profit margins are that tight.
SavvySillybug ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:37:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was at Subway a few years ago, and as someone who doesn't enjoy most toppings, I asked for jalapenos on my sub. He put three pieces on my sub. "More, please." He puts another two. "More. A lot." He cautiously puts four more on. "More." The other employee behind him had apparently watched this exchange, casually reaches into the bin, and drops a handful of jalapenos on my sub. I laughed happily and said 'perfect', while the first employee looked genuinely terrified at the thought of someone eating that much hot food. A friend was with me, and he lost it, while I just paid and casually ate my sub as if this was the most normal thing ever.
I will admit that it was a little bit too much in the end, but nothing that would ruin a sub. I was definitely glad I had a large soda. But mmmmmh :)
t_angerine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:57 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah well i'm sorry to hear that, our portion for cheese is literally a pinch. I hate it too, trust me. One thing I know though is cheese is expensive. Everyone tends to over portion our cheeses when it comes to quesadillas so managers get stricter about it. I personally think it's bullshit. If you're paying $7+ you should get your money's worth.
sun_worth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So charge for extra cheese. Most fast food joints do that.
joors ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:24:51 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's strange! Literally every chipotle I've been to has been super liberal with how much food they give (including cheese). I usually have to tell them 'a little cheese' otherwise it's almost too much lol
WTF_Fairy_II ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:44 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've noticed that if you ask for half chicken/half pork they'll give you a little more than a half portion for each.
TheMaadMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:45 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do this but I ask for a tortilla to be put on the bottom first. Always worked for me!
Gricexe ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 11:39:49 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. This is actually the case in most (but not all) states -- the tow lots aren't police or government agencies, they're private businesses, and they have no right to keep your property without your consent. They have to release your car to you, though you'll probably have to get the police down there to get them to do it. Of course, you do still have to pay them eventually. The fact that they can't keep your car doesn't imply they can't still send you a bill, send you to collections, sue you, etc. They have the right to do all that -- just not to keep your car.
randalflagg1423 ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 14:44:45 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tow companies are shady as hell with this stuff. One by where I live charges something like $200 a mile and has a deal with the police that anytime an officer is in an accident they literally drop whatever they are doing to go get it and give the officers some stupid cheap price like $50 total. So the police will call on this place every time they arrive at an accident scene. Then the people usually don't have a choice but let them tow it or the place will tow it anyways and then it needs to be taken out of storage for an insane price. Had a customer two weeks ago come in with a tow bill for $1200. The tow companies get around keeping your car by saying they won't release it without payment since they rendered a service.
Banditjack ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 15:58:32 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Couple of notes:
In Ca, If you find the tow Company in the act of towing but has not removed your car. You can demand a release, and they have to release your car without charge.
They must provide a pay phone at site of Tow Lot.
They must provide all proper paperwork and proof of you being liable for a tow.
They cannot tow more than 10 miles.
They also may not touch any items in your car.
chopstyks ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:59:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is the law, but they'll take it anyway. I once caught a tow-truck towing my car and they jumped in the truck and hauled ass. I chased them through my complex yelling "drop my car!" and they just dodged me and left. I called the cops, and they told me the law as you stated, but there's no enforcement of it.
Tow companies are the scourge of the universe. They're scum, and there needs to be massive reform in that "industry."
Gawd I hate them.
randalflagg1423 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:32:17 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure what the actual laws are here in Michigan just that is how this one company operates. I do know the first point some companies here charge a fee just for picking up the car and will not drop it without payment, which they usually say is cash only.
pimptastical ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:55:52 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Source? Didn't realize some of these points
Banditjack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:54 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://kindsvater.com/towing.html
http://www.consumer-action.org/index.php/alerts/articles/protecting_yourself_from_predatory_towing
MosquitoRevenge ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:02:29 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are still payphones in the states!?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:40 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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HereditaryMediocrity ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:21:28 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't seen one for years, Pacific Northwest.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:00:08 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Banditjack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:57 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How long ago was that?
Some states require that if the Tow truck company is non compliant they are liable for 3-4 times of what the tow charge would have been.
Say that Tow was 150. You would be able to sue for 350-500.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:08:30 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Banditjack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:24:14 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most Likely not. It is a civil case and you could easily do it in Small Claims.
darksymphony ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:32:45 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lincoln Towing by chance?
randalflagg1423 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:45 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, sorry I'm not near Chicago. But looking them up they do sound they are doing the same things
Spetznazx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:48:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I have AAA, 200 miles of free towing no matter the towing company.
randalflagg1423 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:51 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most insurance companies just cover the charge, which is part of why the cost is so high.
Gld4neer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:52:05 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The problem most people have is that they don't own their cars - a lending institution does, so proving it actually is theirs takes more time, which adds to the bill.
Paul-ish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:19 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So what happens when the bank tries to repo a car that has already been towed. Is the owner decided by single combat?
kingeryck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:21 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always wondered how it could possibly be legal for them to just hold your car indefinitely and charge you up the ass for it.
KuroAi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:40 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
False. My brother owns a tow truck company. For the vehicle to be towed and held it was most likely illegally parked and we will tow it. Now if you get pulled over and have no insurance we will tow it and by law we do not have to release it. Hell i did a tow away for this appt complex on some hoodlums illegally parked cops got called and the cop straight said rules are posted on the fence then told them they could pay 50$ now and i drop it or 150$ plus 25$ gate fee
rampje ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 17:29:20 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you need to sit on a toilet that has a super sensitive automatic flush you can cover the sensor with toilet paper to keep it from flushing while you are still using the toilet. This discovery has enriched my life.
Iop21 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:14:51 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm so sorry for you.
rampje ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:01:38 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't need to be sorry any more. My bum's dry.
Iop21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:54:57 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 99 points ยท Posted at 06:19:37 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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Paladin_of_Trump ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:42:50 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You leave George Clinton out of this.
Mildly-disturbing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:26 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read that as "George Carlin".
I don't know why.
jubbie112 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:12:43 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking same!
Barnowl79 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:08:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't have to press any buttons at all when using self-checkout at the store. Don't even press start, or "choose payment." Just scan your items and swipe your card or put your cash in.
hitension ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:46:19 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bonus money saving tip: everything is bananas.
daubreysmith ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:02:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
noticed this one day when I swiped my card without pressing pay now, never looked back
eviktion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:20:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some stores don't allow this.
Alexbrainbox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The older versions of the software are way less user-friendly. There's one branch of my preferred supermarket chain where I have to do EVERYTHING exactly as expected or I'll end up having to get the assistant over.
No wonder the elderly hate the bloody things.
Gwelp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unfortunately with plastic bags being 'taxed' here in the UK you now have to press the number of bags you have.
TheMellowestyellow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:43 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same with gas stations. Dont bother with the menus, just shove your card in.
qwell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:10:42 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At Home Depot, you have to press Finish. Everywhere else I've used one has been good though, except Walmart, where you have to press "I don't want to bag this item" 3 times before an associate has to come over to clear the error.
supernblock ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:44:28 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I got an actual loophole (I think) This may be very useful for all the steam users here.
Want to buy a item on the market/ a game that's under the 5$, but you can't because the minimum deposit is 5$? Don't worry!
First you gotta go to steam games under 5$, then list them from cheapest to newest. You'll find games with very specific prices, things such as 37 cents or 2,25$. Buy one of these games, and then refund them. When refunding, choose "refund to steam wallet"
Ta-dah! You just saved yourself a little bit of money by doing this. If you do it a lot of times in a row, it'll say "Pending Balance" and you'll have to wait a day until you get it, but hey, still works.
vonlowe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:52:06 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't think you could refund games on steam?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:05:20 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It takes a while, but you can. You have to have played under 2 hours though.
hitension ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:48:40 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Many episodes of episodic games can be completed in under two hours...
I feel like this thread is bringing out my inner Scumbag Steve
vonlowe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:22:24 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's odd the only game I've bought (I'm a cheapskate with internet stuff) on steam, specifically said no refunds... Don't know if it's specific to the game or steam in Europe.
jak-o-shadow ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 13:53:29 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mini bottles of liquor are less than 3oz. And you can take them through security and onto airplanes.
Skwuzzums ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 14:49:32 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is why we call those "airplane bottles"
jak-o-shadow ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:51:47 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, not so much of a loophole but more forethought.
CamaroNurse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:50:20 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They were called that well before the 3 oz rule
Bemfeitomenino ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:18 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shh, the kids think they made up something clever, let them have this one. None of them remember when you could get liquor in coach on a domestic flight anyways.
hicow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:48:01 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What? Every flight I've ever taken has had (overpriced) liquor available in coach.
good_ole_dingleberry ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:27:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But you're not allowed to open them on a flight. Was about to do it on my way to Vegas and the flight attendant informed if I did that there would be a marshal waiting for me at the gate
jak-o-shadow ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 15:41:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. My bad. Some say anything over 140 proof and others say all liquor. You may get the stewards to open it for you but itbis illegal to open it yourselves. So, don't let anyone see you do it... if you do.
samtjones42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:29 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can't you just open it before you take off and carry it very carefully?
jak-o-shadow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:35:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wierd. My brother does this all the time and has never had a problem. That may be real or you may have been bullshitted.
theFunkiestButtLovin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:43:34 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it wasn't bullshit. the pilot is responsible for the alcohol consumption of every passenger. he delegates that to the attendants.
i still bring the bottles on, but I'm just discreet about it.
jak-o-shadow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:47:54 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Discretion is just common sense. To get caught one would have to almost dance in the stewards face while pouring a coctail.
theFunkiestButtLovin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it's pretty easy to leave the bottle sitting out if you didn't know. even easier to give it to the attendants while they are collecting trash.
AskMeAboutMyBandcamp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:52:07 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly just sneak to the bathroom.
Orangedate ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:30:08 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or just don't take it out of your pocket when the stewardess is right next to you and put it into a cup before she comes back?
a-r-c ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:02 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do this all the time and have never had an issue
theshoegazer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:23:20 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're only not allowed to be SEEN opening them on flights. If you pour it into your can of La Croix when they're at the other end of the plane, they're none the wiser.
Paul-ish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:42:55 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure that is exactly what the marshal wants to do with his time.
good_ole_dingleberry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:09 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Youre probably right. Still didn't feel like pushing the envelope. Lol
mothstuckinabath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:04 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And you can refill them from a bigger bottle which is infinitely cheaper by ounce.
SwanBridge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:55:55 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend went on holiday, and bought a bottle of brandy in the duty free section. He proceeded to drink it while waiting at the airport and then did so on the plane. He doesn't remember much except getting onto the plane and waking up in his hotel room the next day. Talk about irresponsible.
Now, here in the UK, most airlines won't allow you to drink alcohol bought in duty free. Lots of people started to do what my friend did, and flights were getting disrupted with people on stag parties and having to land the plane before the destination due to fights and aggressive behaviour. In JFK I was shocked that my duty free items were directly delivered to my gate in a sealed bag opposed to just being given to me at the store as it is in Europe.
Jezell38 ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 10:10:17 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: Only one or two of these comments are actually loopholes.
t-- ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 11:03:59 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When the coin dollar came out, the gov. banks wanted it to be in circulation. So they sold them online at cost price with free shipping. People learned fast that they could gain flyer miles or points on their credit cards at no cost by paying their credit cards with the coins they just ordered. The coins never got in circulation after the loophole was discovered. The coins are still very rare.
vrtigo1 ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 14:27:52 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A few years back Microsoft had a cashback program where'd they'd give you 10% cash back on anything you ordered after searching for it with Bing. It was supposed to get people excited about using Bing. People quickly caught on that they could use it to buy things like gold coins that they could resell and pocket the 10% cashback. Didn't last very long.
dirtymoney ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:34:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I got in on the tail end of that. By that time it was harder to do. The US mint was limiting how much a registered user could buy. You could get around that by buying unregistered, but the problem was.... the guy who delivered your coins didnt have to have you sign it anymore so they left all that money on your porch. And it could disappear (then all your profit would be gone). Also, credit card companies were combatting this by calling money bought from the mint a cash advance and you couldnt get rewards for that. Also, bank tellers were suspicious as hell when you tried to deposit that much coin. I had to make up a lie that a person who owed me thousands was begrudgingly paying me back in dollar coins.
I made a whopping $100 in profit and just stopped because it was such a pain in the ass and nerve wracking.
Note: if your post office has stamp vending machines they used the dollar coins to give back change. I used to like spending the dollar coins when they first came out. I was also into metal detecting and was routinely going up to a post office vending machine (in an open-all night, but no workers were there post office branch)... putting alllllll my coins I found with my metal detector into the machine, buying one stamp and then hitting the change return and I would get my change back in more easily spent dollar coins.
Fun fact.... back in 1999 (I think) they were using Susan B Anthony dollars to give back change in those machines and they ran out of the coins (because people would keep them instead of spending them) so the US mint had to start making them again for that one year to fill their machines. The next year they finally got to minting the golden dollar (saccagawea dollar coins) to put in the machine and stopped minting the susan B coins.
I recently went to a post office and saw that they had a stamp vending machine that basically printed out stamp labels for exact amounts so I dont even know if they use the old stamp vending machines anymore where you could buy a single regular stamp or book of stamps.
joeltb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:58:00 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You sound like a fun person to hang out with! Also, your username is somewhat appropriately related to your story. LOL
Gonzobot ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:56:35 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which company exactly was taking credit card payments in coins and then removing those coins from circulation? Also, how.
None of what you said made sense.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 14:14:34 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So the Mint, who produces the coins, sold the dollar coins at face value ($1). If you ordered 250 or more at a time, the Mint did not charge shipping.
You take your rewards credit card, purchase thousands of dollars worth, get free shipping. Now you have $2000 in coins in your hand that cost you exactly $2000 on your credit card. Go to the bank, deposit the coins, pay your credit card bill. You now just were rewarded with $2000 worth of points for free.
The government got mad because the point of the coins being sold that way was to have them circulate. They were not circulated because the coins went right back to banks, and the banks would in turn, ship them back to the Fed or to their vaults waiting for someone to request dollar coins, which nobody ever does.
Limberine ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:50:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That might be why we Aussies can sometimes buy bags of new coins online with shipping costs but not direct from the mint for face value alone. As an aside, dollar and $2 coins are cool. You collect them and have a hoard, ours are gold. :-) Here are some new special edition $2 coins.
http://m.imgur.com/a/uA2TK
XAM2175 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate to do this to you, but no circulating Australian coin since Federation has been struck in gold.
The current $1 and $2 coins, which entered circulation in 1984 and 1988 respectively, are composed of 92% copper, 6% aluminium, and 2% nickel.
The last circulating Australian coin struck in any precious metal was the 1966 50c piece, which was composed of 80% silver and 20% copper. Due to a major rise in silver prices at that time, production was halted through 1967 and 1968 before being replaced by the current design in 1969, struck in 75% copper and 25% nickel like the 5, 10, and 20c pieces.
Tyloor ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:37:54 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was probably just talking about the color of the coins
Limberine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:05 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ROFL :-)
Yeah sorry, I know they aren't gold, we just call them gold coins. sorry about that. Like if there is a fund raiser at my kid's school they will be asked to take in a "gold coin donation" meaning $1 or $2 as opposed to a "silver coin" which is the others (5,10,20,50). My bad, it didn't occur to me that that would be confusing but you weren't to know. My hoard looks like a gold hoard though and actually those $2's add up quite fast when you get a good container full.
Thanks for doing the research though. :-)
XAM2175 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:33 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Should I mention that I'm Australian?
You said "You collect them and have a hoard, ours are gold :-)" like you actually thought they were - and, unfortunately, I have met people who actually thought they were.
And yes, they build up quite quickly - over five years in a cash-handling job allowed me to put together over $400 worth of the various special issues, including a sealed Armaguard bag of the purple Diamond Jubilee $2s.
Limberine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Lol, I read about someone on here whose Mum thought they were gold but I didn't know it was actually a thing to think they are gold. As for the sealed Armaguaed bag....that sucks. Those coins are supposed to go into circulation, not straight from the armaguard van onto eBay for a huge markup.
fiberwyre ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:16:36 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe people were depositing the coins they got into their bank accounts and paying their credit cards off with that.
And maybe when people deposited the coins into the banks, they took them out of circulation?
Sophilosophical ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like something from Punch Drunk Love
determinedforce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know a laundromat that sometimes gives out $1 coins when I change my $5 (or larger) bills. People (me as well) just put them right back in the machine to get quarters. Looks like I should start keeping them.
CrazyKirby97 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 23:24:35 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're lactose-intolerant and can't drink milk, you can say "thanks mr skeletal" every night before bed and still have good calcium.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:10:08 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You used to be able to pre-order games on Amazon, wait until a day before it released, and then cancel it. The day the game released Amazon would email you the pre-order bonus codes, but never charge you for the game.
But I think they might have fixed this.
GoreWound ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:15:45 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I live in a major metropolitan city in north america.
There is an arterial road in this city that runs east-west. In the very centre of the city this road stop dead at the entrance to an old university campus and starts again on the other side of it. to exit from that road at this place you have to take a small ramp to get onto a north-south major arterial road that doesn't have any turn offs for nearly two kilometers in either direction.
To basically everyone in the city this is a massive shitshow of traffic jams and bullshit.
To me, and a few others, it is not. Because there is a way through the university campus. This path takes you through two or three automatic gates. Those gates open if you approach, but are enough to keep most people from trying.
reidef123 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:59:00 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
An American using the Metric system? What is this travesty? Are you Australian?
Lilbuhs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:30:19 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he said north america hes likely in Canada not USA
sciencekitty521 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:26:34 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"centre" gives it away really.
Lilbuhs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:19:19 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
didn't even realize that he said that until now
Elfish-Phantom ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:24:28 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If your phone bill or tv bill is too high. Call at the end of the month and tell them you want to cancel and are planning on switching over to the competitor. They most likely will lower your bill for a certain amount of months. My mom called and our bill was lowered for six months.
Delduath ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:02:48 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's assuming you get through to the correct department. I work for an ISP but not in retention. People seem to think that "I want to cancel my service because it's too expensive" are magic words for free things. I don't offer them anything, because that's not my job. I just start the process of cancellation and tell them how much the HTT charges are going to be for early termination.
Most people will drop the act and say they don't really want to cancel, they want their prices lowered. Though some people, out of pride, have had their services ended that way, which usually costs them a lot more.
Elfish-Phantom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:21:36 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The company that provides us the services always drops the price.
[deleted] ยท 113 points ยท Posted at 06:21:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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VictorSerge ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 06:36:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the thirds probably have to be part of the same bill
AlchemicalEnthusiast ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 06:39:35 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If the middle part is the part missing from the frakensteined third bill, you probably cant tell...
Can i plz exchange it for a crisp bill at your bank sir/madam?
VictorSerge ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 08:12:19 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
tell you what though, i'll swap you it for this equivalent value bag of shards i've been snipping off pennies
Ucantalas ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:19:28 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can put that in a pillowcase and bludgeon people with it! You've got a deal!
RadicalFruitbowl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:46:52 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like your style, I tried the same with 1/3rds of bills but it just didn't have the same effect, they laughed rather than screamed and there was no blood.
BarryOakTree ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 08:02:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bank tellers aren't stupid most of the time. I imagine that handing them 2 chunks of a bill with the middle missing won't get you anywhere.,
Budborne ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 12:35:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You literally need both serial numbers to get a new bill. That's like, half the reason we even have serialized dollar bills. Probably joking, but I think this is mildly interesting knowledge anyways.
perigrinator ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:23:29 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Proof positive that Treasury does not do things by halves.
XAM2175 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:09:20 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amusingly, in Australia the value of a partial banknote is paid based on how much of the banknote you actually have, as long as you have at least 20% of the original note to begin with. There are special measuring gauges for it.
Gaelicthunder ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:51:29 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LPT: use a 1 and a 5, cut them in half, make an Abraham Washington bill, and a George Lincoln bill. Now you have two 6 dollar bills
Umpa ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 11:22:43 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the bank checks for both serial numbers before replacing damaged currency.
While working as park maintenence, I ran my lawnmower over $40. Took the pieces to the bank and they replaced it for me.
BunnyPerson ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:27:35 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They do
rtedesco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:38:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
WHERE THE HELL DID YOU FIND A $40 BILL?
Umpa ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:40:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Two $20s?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:04:45 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
There's a lot of reasons why this wouldn't work, the biggest one being that banks won't take your frankenbill if they can't match up the serial numbers, which is a law put in place to prevent stupid shit like this from happening.
For reference, a bank will take mutilated money that is:
Any of those are missing, and it'll be declined.
Something tells me this is
a loopholefraud you've thought of conceptually, but have never actually tried to do in real life.vrtigo1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:24:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually from what I've been told anything over 50% of a bill is still legit. I'm wondering how they can tell the difference between 50.1% and 50%. Theoretically, if you cut a bill exactly in half...
Kryian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:54:05 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless whoever just doesn't care, what you really need is one full serial # plus part of the second.
xchicowx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:19:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*hands cashier 400 2/3rds bills for a ps4*
tryptagon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Troll science class is now in session.
TofuFarm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:07 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Username kinda checks out
AlchemicalEnthusiast ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:24:34 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Im trying to transcend the laws of equivalent exchange.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 13:16:31 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You are a moron.
Summamabitch ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:21 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It goes by 1/4s not 1/3s
And you're an idiot
ZenGuruji ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 17:40:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Instead of pressing Ctrl-Alt-Delete and then clicking "Start Task Manager", simply press Ctrl-Shift-Escape... you'll get the Task Manager instantly.
ctrayne ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 19:13:31 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
However Ctrl+shift+esc is not a kernel level interrupt while Ctrl+alt+del is.
ZenGuruji ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:42:34 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Genuinely curious, could you explain this in layman's terms?
Legend4ryEagle ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 20:55:35 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
What hes saying is that basically crtl+alt+del has priorities that are higher then fucking snoop dog while crtl+shift+escape doesn't which means that the first one will interrupt ervything else the OS is doing while the later will still try to fix other stuff that may have crashed.
Basically it means crtl+shift+esc may not work as well if your PC is completely overloaded.
QuineQuest ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:18:35 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can also make a program that reacts to the ctrl-shift-esc shortcut and makes the computer do something else instead. But ctrl-alt-del can't be captured.
This is also why you had to press ctrl-alt-del when logging on to older versions of Windows - so you knew it was the real prompt, and not some fake one that tried to snoop your password.
LeakyLycanthrope ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:01:32 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And yet every time I hit ctrl+alt+del my computer takes its sweet time...
SumAustralian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:16 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same here, I remember coming up instantly back in the XP days
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 00:46:55 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Higher priorities doesn't mean highest priorities. Words aren't that hard.
LeakyLycanthrope ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:42:58 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be like that. I didn't interpret anything that wasn't right there in the comment.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:00:28 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're the one complaining about it taking time. That's why it takes time, some stuff carries on running 'cause of higher priorities.
LeakyLycanthrope ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:16:46 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did not know this. I'm not a computer science major. I'm not super into computers. They're a tool to me. All I have to go on is what other people tell me.
I have been led to believe that ctrl+alt+del is a manual override that will immediately stop whatever else your computer is doing to execute that command. So it's frustrating and puzzling when that turns out not to be the case. Yes, maybe I could have done some research and learned what ctrl+alt+del is actually doing at the computational level, but that doesn't really help me when all I want to do is solve the problem.
So yes, I was complaining about it taking time. Because I was under the impression that it shouldn't take time, an impression which the comment above mine reinforced. Now I know better, but there was absolutely no reason for you to get all haughty about it just because you knew a fact that I didn't.
Scripter17 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:00:49 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now THAT, THAT is funny!
ZenGuruji ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:59:15 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for explaining!
GreatBabu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:46:28 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Correct. C A D stops everything to give control to you.
Fart17 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:26:49 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking burn.
chopstyks ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:00:56 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This guy ring 0's.
nevert159 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:54:33 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What does popcorn have to do with anything?
tryptagon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:54:37 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well I'll be damned. Thanks /u/ZenGuruji
hicow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:49:45 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
right-click taskbar, start task manager. You probably have a hand on the mouse anyway, and it's less awkward than the ctrl+shift+esc sequence.
Or Win+R, enter taskmgr in the Run box, hit enter. I still am more likely to remember that than ctrl+shift+esc
ZenGuruji ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:36:03 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess it depends on how your mind works. A lot of strategy game players use hotkey combos even though they could just click on icons. End of the day, personal preference.
Scavenger53 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:12:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If I want the task manager I right click on the taskbar and open it. If my system is being stupid and I need it to stop everything for a moment, I hit control alt delete which buys enough time during the interupt to kill the problem.
Loverly_Liz ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 09:21:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just speak like you're happy while expressing your customer service issues on the phone. You will get anything you want if you include please and thank you. But still be a little stern in order to be taken seriously when there is a more major problem.
Lyress ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 13:57:50 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not a loophole, it's just social engineering.
WTF_Fairy_II ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:48:44 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not even social engineering. It's just being an adult.
theFunkiestButtLovin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:49:29 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it's not social engineering. i hate that term. it's just being polite. it is literally just another way of saying "you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar"
Brewsleroy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:35:02 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But you don't actually catch more flies with honey than vinegar. You will literally catch more flies with vinegar than honey. That saying is garbage.
Same thing for customer service. I'm polite to customer service reps and I generally get nothing for it. I watch people lose their shit on customer service reps and suddenly the manager is all over them trying to placate them with free shit.
theFunkiestButtLovin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:55:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
honey is sticky though.
kingeryck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit catches more flies. Being calm and assertive is the best way but.. we all know the squeaky wheel gets the grease. The customers who cause a ruckus are the ones that get what they want eventually.
Jmint12 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:17:04 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. worked the phones for a mortgage company for several years.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:08:02 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just got a 203k mortgage which are supposed to take between 60 and 90 days to close. I was super friendly and responsive with everyone at the mortgage company. Please and thank you, promptly signing papers and getting back to them as fast as possible if I missed a call. Closed in 59 days and everyone at the company said it was such a pleasure to work with us. Basic courtesy goes a long way.
Jay_Highland ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 16:08:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I worked in Call Centers for 12 years. The key is to be firm but still be courteous and professional. If you are hostile, I am not giving you a damn thing and neither will my boss or his boss. If you are firm and courteous, I am going to work with you as there will be a mutual level of respect. Hell, I will probably go to bat for you to my boss if you are friendly. You're mean? Go fuck yourself.
Ashkela ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:24:11 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously. I had a woman on the phone for three hours once because the wait time for escalation was FOREVER and I refused to just drop her in the alternate queue because she was totally not at fault and I could tell. She was so apologetic to be wasting my time. Wasn't allowed to tell her I worked from home, was playing games on my phone while we chatted, I get paid either way, didn't get dinged for long calls when it was waiting for escalation (we were in transition and they knew it wasn't fair to get on us when it wasn't our fault), and this would guarantee I didn't take another call all night.
Ended up getting over $800 in charges reversed, and adjusting her rate plan so that she'd pay a total of $30 max for something that could have cost her thousands if she hadn't noticed the issue (out of country data charges on her daughter's phone).
Jay_Highland ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:30:35 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I worked at AT&T, your average call time had to be 3 minutes or less or they were on your ass. It didnt matter what was going on. So, when I felt bad for someone, I would write down their account and a good contact phone number and give them a call on my break or after my shift to work it out with them.
Ashkela ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:19:31 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, that sucks! You can't place an order that fast, even if the cust knows exactly what they want! We were supposed to shoot for 6 minutes or less, but when they were messing with the WAH metrics and dropped the escalation line and made us go into a chat room where the managers were supposedly waiting, it slowed waaaaaaaaaaaay down. There'd be something like 1000 WAH people nationwide and 10 managers in the chat room.
Jay_Highland ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:43:07 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There were times when the hold time was well over an hour. You had to fix their problem, try to sell them additional services with overcoming two objections and have an average of like 175 seconds. It has been nearly 20 years since I have been there. Other places I have worked were much more reasonable on the metrics.
theFunkiestButtLovin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:51:47 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
if you can get the person in your corner, you can get amazing things. these are the people that know the loopholes in their system.
i know people hate on comcast, but i was friendly to a woman in sales over the phone. our call as about 30 minutes long, but she found a way to get me 170Mbps for $55 a month. the bill is full of line items that finagle the price down.
it's just about getting the person to want to help you.
Jay_Highland ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually worked at AT&T back when long distance calling and the price wars were a thing. I handed out several benefit or credit packages to customers I really liked to where there bill was like nothing for 6 months.
tdug ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:40:36 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you're calling Comcast, from my experience.
theFunkiestButtLovin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:52:50 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
just call until you get someone with a sympathetic ear.
Li0nhead ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:43:08 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed, don't act like a shit and people will be more accommodating. Such as a routine police stop for something minor be a shit and they will find something else wrong with your car.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:13 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I once called to costumer service of HP in my country, I asked the guy about some problem I had with my laptop and we ended up talking about martial arts and stuff, I also got my problem fixed
gnawp ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:37:14 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When buying coffee at a gas station with the automatic cream despensers, just fill up a cup with that gourmet coffee cream. Pretend it's a coffee. Shits expensive.
perpetuallytemporary ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:59:56 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Loophole: take things without paying for them. It's cheaper than paying for them!
sgt_salt ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 16:57:02 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If a cop pulls you over, immediately start yelling "AM I BEING DETAINED!?" Over and over, and they have to let you go.
Gld4neer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:58:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure it's "I am a free citizen and I am traveling! It's in the Constitution!"
skalskip ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:53:39 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The best videos are when people cite the Articles of Confederation
Fidesphilio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:00:04 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or be related to a cop. Leave a your city here PD hat in the back window of your car, and ideally keep your relative's card next to your insurance card. When handing over your license and registration give the officer that card too, and usually they'll let you off with a warning.
perpetuallytemporary ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:06:04 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yay corruption!
dirtymoney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
or askign to talk to their supervisor.
perpetuallytemporary ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:30 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People in the youtube videos can be a bit shrill, but knowing when to ask this and when to press it can be pretty important.
JaguarGator9 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 14:57:55 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're listening to Spotify on your computer, press pause a second or two before the song is over (the part where there's no song). Then, click on a new song.
It doesn't count as a play, which means you never have to listen to commercials, even if you're not paying for Premium.
patthickwong ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 16:14:06 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol the fuck.
This seems like way more trouble than it is worth.
plastslev ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:41:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Play.spotify.com + adblock = no ads
theFunkiestButtLovin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:58:03 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
until you get so tired of the one spotify ad they run (for their paid service) that you would literally rather tear your ear drums out than hear the stupid ad again. i used to pay for premium, but my budget does not allow it anymore. I cannot use their ad-supported service because the ad's are too annoying. pandora has a much better ad-supported service (also, fun fact, pandora makes more off the ad-supported experience than their paid users).
Kaligraphic ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:08:18 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or just sign up for premium, which doesn't have ads. Then you don't have to stay by the computer and race the end of the song. Plus, as a bonus, Spotify is ever so slightly more likely to continue existing!
ElDuderino2112 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:35:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're also not paying the artists then.
Gaelicthunder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:55:13 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Neither is Spotify. Spotify is paying the producer, who is dangling the steak just out of reach of the artist and laughing maniacally
SwanBridge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:57:17 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did that for years, but it seems not to work anymore, which is rather annoying.
Legend4ryEagle ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or just use Soundcloud which is free, has no ads and the only reason you would pay something there is for beeing able to upload more.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:04:47 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You see. There's a loophole in the bible that works really well, so you can get off without going to hell. All Hail Mary full of grace in Jesus name just go to fith base.
047032495 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:33:40 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you telling me that the poophole is the loophole to getting into heaven?
psbwb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:30:11 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only if it's guy on girl.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:10:52 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As far as premarital sex is concerned.
It's the sex that God can't see.
Ionized052 ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 09:57:02 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure i this counts, but - become friends with guards and janitors, they have all the keys!
Lyress ยท 72 points ยท Posted at 13:57:11 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's.. not a loophole.
ngtstkr ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 15:35:50 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, those are keyholes.
BunnyPerson ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 12:30:20 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The most powerful person is the one with the most keys.
portajohnjackoff ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 12:56:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have 88. They open nothing but the wounds in my heart.
SWGlassPit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:21:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you a piano?
ZenGuruji ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:44:20 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Deep.
SinkTube ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:13:39 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or a lockpick.
Fromanderson ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:51:06 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lock pick won't do you much good without a tension wrench.
SilhouetteOfLight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:13:43 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sora?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:36:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you a distant cousin?
TuckingFypoz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DJ Khaled? Is that you?
determinedforce ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:45 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't stand "regular" people that carry around keys on their belt with all that damn jangling. I HIGHLY doubt most of them don't own a bunch of properties that they visit daily or a bunch of locked things outside the house that again daily they get into. Keep your car key and your house key on your person. Leave all them other bitches at home.
theFunkiestButtLovin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:55:02 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
also, parking attendants. I got free parking that should have been $20 a day for an entire school year just by making the booth attendant feel special for a few minutes every day. it was not as cold and calloused as that makes it sound, though. i genuinely enjoyed the interaction, as well. however, i would be lying to myself if i thought it was because the person liked me. it's because of how i made them feel every day.
YounomsayinMawfk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:57 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In the same vein, become friends with mailmen like Newman. When you control mail, you control information!
Privvy_Gaming ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:31 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a keyhole, not a loophole.
DoctorOctagonapus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:55 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Become friends with caterers. My department at work always goes out of our way to help and be nice to the canteen staff.
One time we fixed one of their tills which was playing up. We didn't pay for food for the rest of the week!
vrtigo1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:17:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But IT has the passwords, keys and manages the access control & CCTV systems!
[deleted] ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 11:25:28 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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PmMe_Your_Perky_Nips ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 11:48:57 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think they learned their lesson the first time. I even think they tried to sue the guy who did this. Good luck.
zombiejeebus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:40:50 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks Adam Sandler!
dirtymoney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:29 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I SAW THIS IN A MOVIE!!!
and... it is actually based on a guy who did it.
voltanegro ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:10:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
YES
kale4reals ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:24:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My local news website will restrict access if you don't have a subscription but to get around that you can just google search the headline and click the story and view it that way.
RajaAbuBakar ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:29:42 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In my state (Arizona) the law says that a tow company can't hold your car "for ransom" until you pay them. You just have to show your ID and they have to release your car to you. The tow clerk didn't believe me until I called the cops, showed them the statute, and the cop ordered them to release my car. edit: city ordinance...most cities in AZ have the same ordinance which says the same, in effect. Most cities have their own ordinances (regulations) on what tow companies can do, look up the specifics for the city you get towed in, but most in AZ are the same as Phoenix: 36-144 C 4 states: No charge shall be permitted in connection with the release of the vehicle, including providing such access as may be necessary to view, prepare for removal or remove the vehicle.
ZenGuruji ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:39:34 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you have a Panera Bread reward to claim (such as a free coffee), then don't use the kiosks in their restaurants. Those require you to purchase another item before being able to claim the free item. Instead, go to the cash register, because the clerks will allow you to claim just the free item.
HelpfulViewer2016 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:52:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This works in the US and Canada; I can't vouch for other countries. Quite frequently people will pay for items/services (think web stuff, people going door-to-door, landlords) with a check (cheque). At some point along the "deposit, hold for funds, clearance" process, people will decide they don't want what they paid for (or decide they want it for free) and will cancel the check, leaving you high and dry. To prevent this, certify the check!
Yes, a personal check can be certified, i.e. the funds are frozen in the account and after certification that check becomes the equivalent of a money order payable to you. CIBC charges $20 CAD for this service; Chase charges $8 USD.
To certify a check, go to the bank the check is drawn on (i.e. you can't certify a BoA check at USBank), pay the fee and they'll certify it. You have to be the payee ("Pay to the order of" person) or the payor (the one who signed the check). Sorry if this is too much info; I just spent the better part of an afternoon explaining how to write a check to a US-born-raised-and-educated PhD Mathematician in his forties...he's never had a checking account :/
PMMEYOURDANKESTMEME ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Basically you just described a money order.
HelpfulViewer2016 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:50 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Not exactly: a money order has to be purchased (prepaid), and can't be cancelled. What I've described is a method to convert a cancelable banking instrument that doesn't require garanteed funds at time of issue into a guaranteed, non-cancelable banking instrument. If I write you a check for $50 then cancel it, that $50 that got deposited to your account will subsequently be removed from your account. If that withdrawal leaves you with a balance <$0, you will also incur overdraft charges. If you had authorized withdrawals or checks you wrote dependent upon those funds that were removed, you may also incur overdraft charges. But if you certify that $50 personal check I gave you,that $50 has been frozen from my account: I can't cancel the check. Even if I went to the bank and closed the account, I wouldn't get back the value of that check you certified.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:46 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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HelpfulViewer2016 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:13:07 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If it's a $20 check, yup it is. If it's a $5000 check, no it's not. Its a matter of risk, and how important NOT having that check cancelled or bounced on you is.
[deleted] ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 11:42:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They can't charge a husband and wife for the same crime.
turkturkelton ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 12:02:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take to the sea! You'll be safe in international waters
--rubberdicks ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 12:07:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
International waters is where all the monkey knife fighting is held
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 12:53:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obviously, the blue part is land. So that would mean...
Reaper628 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:59:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. Some US laws still apply to you even when you leave the country. Murder is the main one where they still charge you if you go overseas
1775mike ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:35:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
if you don't have a boat that can get you 12 miles out and keep you safe there, than your screwed
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:13:47 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone let Hillary know about this one!
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 12:02:36 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 12:51:18 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really?
...I've got the worst f-ing attorneys.
Gonzobot ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 12:57:54 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
a- You missed the reference
b- A husband and wife cannot be compelled to testify; you are not prohibited from testifying against your spouse, but nobody can force you to if you don't want to.
zombiejeebus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:41:21 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Woosh
GreatBabu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:31 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No they aren't. They cannot be forced, but they certainly can testify against you.
MrNazgul ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:09:17 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They don't come much denser than this one, folks.
Summamabitch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:30:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You got the worst fucking lawyers!
OkiDokiTokiLoki ยท 132 points ยท Posted at 06:28:32 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you walk out and notice your car is being towed, calmly approach the driver and talk to them. Apologize for whatever it is you are being towed for. Ask nicely if there is any way they can let you slide this one time. Chances are they will let you off with a warning, or at worst a small drop fee (much cheaper than the full tow). If you run out screaming and making threats your car is as good as gone.
Zintha ยท 252 points ยท Posted at 09:16:08 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think loophole means what you think it means.
[deleted] ยท 141 points ยท Posted at 15:30:52 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LIFE HACK: IF YOU TAKE A SHIT, USE TOILET PAPER TO WIPE YOUR SHITTY ASSHOLE. THIS PAPER WILL TYPICALLY BE FOUND ADJACENT TO THE TOILET.
jterrance ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:42:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL: That's NOT what my left hand is for.
SickNDick ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 09:26:21 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does it mean bribe?
RafikimeansFriend ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:57:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's more of a like getting around a rule or requirement. Something like: if you make an appointment at the DMV ahead of time, you don't have to wait for an available agent and don't have to spend hours in line.
seamonster1609 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:25:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Husband just goes in says he has an appt. works every time.
Marvelgirl234 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:53:44 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's just making an appointment
RafikimeansFriend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Many people don't know you can make an appointment and dread going to the dmv because it takes hours to wait for an agent, so its a loophole. Admitted that is a bad example. A better one would be that you can get your license as soon as you've passed driving school instead of having to wait three months and get 40 hours of driving.
xenpiffle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:24:28 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not a loophole either. That's listed on the website.
RafikimeansFriend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:59 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Many times there are loopholes available but most people don't know about them, it being on the website doesn't make it any less of a loophole.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:31:57 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It isn't really a bribe. Bribes are illegal. Most towing companies are private companies.
Esoteric_Erica ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:03:08 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In other news, when paying for something that costs .75c, pay for it with a dollar, and the cashier will give you a quarter change. Do this four times, and you've got yourself a dollar.
superdude4agzefaggot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:36:40 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously, nobody knows WTF 'loophole' means.
[deleted] ยท 74 points ยท Posted at 07:00:15 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just thought of a great porno, brb.
MyIQis76 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 07:20:28 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pls
do it
pm me the link thx
giveitago ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:37:49 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Drop your drawers fee.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:16:06 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have this second cousin who I despise and don't speak to for a multitude of reasons. A few years back she was "dating" a guy who drove a tow truck from 11pm to 8am. He would come pick her up and do sex stuff in the truck with the fat pig while he was waiting for calls. Came to find out from another family member that he called her his "tow ho" and she was proud of this fact.
So, anyway, there's a name for your porno. Tow Ho.
pm_me_your_cuck_pics ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 11:11:37 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In my jurisdiction they make sweet bank by seizing cars. They get a fee from the city for removing traffic obstructions and then get to charge you a release fee plus a high daily fee for the pleasure of occupying part of their lot.
There is one notorious stretch where the parking restrictions apply at an odd time of day and they descend like sharks.
Jah_Ith_Ber ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:30:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, you are guilty until proven innocent! Punishment before the trial. This is really more of a loophole for towing business owners...
0OKM9IJN8UHB7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure it's argued that it's not you who is being punished or whatever, it's the car.
DoctorOctagonapus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like it's time to customise my car alarm. Where can I find a 200dB siren...
pointsouterrors ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 07:08:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY. Still better than dealing with an impound lot.
godless-life ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:46:43 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
This depends from city to city, sometimes even from the respective tow truck driver. The companies have policies tailored around the local law, and drivers are free to act within policy. Being nice definitely improves your chances, but not always.
pointsouterrors ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 07:58:08 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
True. I've always been polite to...well, everyone, but offering something off the table (cash, weed - after broaching the topic, etc.) can get you out out inconveniences when someone's just doing their job, and not passionate about it.
And if it doesn't work, I respect the guy for doing his job.
-sixandseven- ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 12:17:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did this once when my car was getting booted. I apologized for being parked in the wrong place and asked if I could move it right then. The guy said he couldn't help me now but appreciated that I wasn't angry with him and that he would remember that. A few months later I was parked wrong again and I walked out to my car to see the sticker on my windshield that said I had been booted, but no boot.
pm_me_ur_wet_pants ยท 67 points ยท Posted at 14:06:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe you should stop parking your car illegally.
-sixandseven- ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was simply providing example that OP's loophole actually worked for me. Nothing wrong with parking illegally if you accept the consequences.
YouNerdAssRetard ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:55:08 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Im not a perfect angel driver either, but their are usually reasons for those rules. I accept my consequences too ,but theres a reason theres a stop sign on a busy street, friend. That spot is probably illegal because of street cleaners, fire hydrant, narrow street, handicapped entrance, etc. Not just for no reason.
-sixandseven- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm aware. This was 8 years ago, BTW. The spots were legal when I parked there but didn't move my car in time for the street cleaner.
YouNerdAssRetard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:05:52 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Congratulations that it was 8 years ago? Idk what that has to do with it. My reply was about your mindset on illegal parking - "Nothing wrong with parking illegally if you accept the consequences"
massacreman3000 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:07 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The two halves of your brain must be six and seven years old.
-sixandseven- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:37 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok.
jofo1993 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:10:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ive heard if your in this scenario to hop in the car and lock the doors, the tow truck guy cant tow the car with you inside because its considered kidnapping
dirtymoney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:44 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think they call the cops and have the cops remove you.
Also, you better have proof that they are towing you with you in it if they call your bluff (video of you inside your vehicle as you are being towed).
ichooselivefree ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:39:47 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They don't just drop it if you catch them? That's seems really unsafe for them. I know plenty of people who would kill over a car.
tkitkitchen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:54:29 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some places like here on Oahu it's law they have to release it for free if you are there before they tow it away.
coprolite_hobbyist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:11:35 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No. Being nice will help, but you aren't getting off for free. I used to make my living that way, so if you missed the clearly posted signs not to park, you are going to pay. Where I was the drop fee couldn't be more than half of the tow charge, but only applied if you caught me when I was still on the property. Which is why I would do a quick hook up and finish securing the vehicle on the street, making a lot of noise, running my lights and smoking a cigarette.
Oh, and cash only for non-consensual tows. The law requires that you be given a 'reasonable' amount of time to get the cash. It doesn't define how long reasonable is and I made that determination strictly based on your attitude. Come out yelling and screaming at me? Yeah, I'll be gone before you get back from the ATM and you can catch a cab down to the tow yard and pay all the extra fees you wouldn't have otherwise.
But drop it for free? Just not going to happen. You call in when making a pick up, if you don't come back with the cash or the car, you gonna get fired because the company will assume you are stealing from them.
random_side_note ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:54 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to live next to a parking lot near several block's worth of nightclubs and bars. I used to just sit on the edge of my bed, Friday and Saturday nights, and watch the tow drivers go to town on illegal parkers.
You must run into the nicest, coolest tow drivers ever, because all the drivers i saw, regardless of how the car owner approached them, would laugh and haul off the car.
The one and ONLY time in 7 months did ever i see a driver leave without taking the car, the tow driver had pulled up into the lot the exact second the owner of the car was getting back into their vehicle.
Also, while i agree politeness will often get you out of things, that's not a loophole. Most of us just call that "not acting like a douche to people (who are only doing their jobs)".
theFunkiestButtLovin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:00:59 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
another post states that in california they legally must give you your car at that point and cannot charge for it.
skalskip ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're only legally required to give you the car if they haven't driven onto ublic property yet. So, if the stop them while the tow truck is still in the private parking lot, they may be required to give it back. But as OP was saying, he drove onto public property, and then started making noise, because by that time, he could legally demand the fee.
ohmygod_my_tinnitus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:44 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on the driver, towing company and how they're paid to be honest. If they're paid hourly, probably not because there's a base fee that has to be covered for calling out the driver and whatever business is having your car towed won't cover that. If they're on commission it might work, but that depends on the driver and how he feels.
dirtymoney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:52 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yep, tow truck drivers are sketchy as hell. I once negotiated a cheaper tow (in cash). The tow truck driver radioed in that he was doing a family tow (towing a family member for free).
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:29 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or just be scary enough. I had my car towed for expired tags and the driver told me id have to pay hundreds. I told him i would cut their fence and take my truck that night. They decided i wasnt worth screwing with and i got my truck that day.
OkiDokiTokiLoki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:45 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/thathappened
concord72 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:26 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wouldn't that mean they don't get paid for that tow? So why would anyone just freely not want to get paid?
Jah_Ith_Ber ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:35:21 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Speaking as someone who has been in positions of authority before, not a chance. If you approach them calmly like a civilized person they will be grateful that their job is easy and continue.
Their job is to do an unpleasant thing that pisses people off. They can fail to enforce once or twice a day, but they can't avoid confrontation all day. So when someone is actually nice that's like finding a dollar bill on the ground.
It's like if you were a salesman. And you had to sell shit constantly and hit numbers. Then some naive, easily manipulated idiot walks into your store. You're not going to be nice back to him, you're going to sell the ever loving shit out of him and be happy that this one isn't fighting you.
superdude4agzefaggot ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:37:05 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go look up the word 'loophole'.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:16:03 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except that the towing company has been paid by the city to do a job.
Basically, you can go fuck yourself because the tow driver is a neutral party.
UnnamedNamesake ยท 45 points ยท Posted at 06:10:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Up up down down left right left right b a start
Juventus22 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 07:43:37 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
isn't it, B,A, select, start
Hellirex ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 07:55:18 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope
source
PM_ME_UR_GNOMES ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 09:32:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, I see this misconception more often than not and it kills me inside a little every time. You're doing God's work
Juventus22 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:07:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah nice. Learn something everyday!
SinkTube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:04:15 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It actually does require select in some games, but yeah the original was just start.
DwayneSmith ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:41:47 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I D D Q D
Siberwulf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:20:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
IDSPISPOPD. I think?
Mogbog997 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:40:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also works for Reddit
superdude4agzefaggot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:02 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nobody in this thread knows what the fuck 'loophole' means.
IRodeInOnALargeDog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
R2 R2 L1 R2 โ โ โ โโ โ โ โ
UnnamedNamesake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:08 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always preferred the alternate weapon set.
DoctorOctagonapus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mmm, bacon!
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:36:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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cytrix11 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:36:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here is a great video on the subject.
superdude4agzefaggot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:37:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That isn't what a fucking loophole is.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:30:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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HeartShapedFarts ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:37:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We have terrible healthcare and our police are out murdering unarmed citizens -- being ripped off by our Internet provider is the least of our problems.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:26:02 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're struggling to get anywhere when dealing with a big faceless company, find a name, any name. Nine times out of ten their external facing email address is firsname.lastname[at]company.com
I once spent weeks being sent in circles by customer services at an insurance company, I emailed a company director using the above method and had a reply from his secretary in a couple of hours. Problem was resolved by end of day.
DahliaRoseMarie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:50:50 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've noticed that, too. The IT guys always use the same format for everyone in the whole company. Sometimes it's first initial, last name @ company, but once you know the name and the format you can contact anyone. It really helps when you need to get your resume to the hiring manager.
perpetuallytemporary ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:13:03 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was a peon at a big corporation, and by coincidence shared a last name with one of the way-high-ups. People would always call and email demanding to speak to the other person. I'd explain that we weren't the same person (had different first names) and they'd just INSIST i put them through. It's like, I'm a no one cubicle monkey, they don't give me a line to the CEO just because we have the same fairly common last name.
hitension ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:03:44 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You had no way whatsoever of contacting the CEO? Like not even his assistant's secretary's secretary or something?
I mean anybody who contacts a company trying to reach the CEO directly is probably not worthy of the CEO's time, it just seems weird there's nobody more appropriate to redirect that to. PR department, maybe?
perpetuallytemporary ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:31:00 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. I was waaaay down the line at a company with thousands of employees. I asked one time how to transfer a call to HR and the response I was given was just to stonewall, that my number shouldn't be receiving incoming calls (it really shouldn't have), and that I should tell them to call a different number. I think big companies like to insulate the top management from the lower level employees.
pointsouterrors ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 07:06:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I avoid skin cancer because I never go outside. Yep, that's the reason.
denvit ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:47:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Spotted the /r/NoLifeProTip guy!
Li0nhead ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:44:33 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You now have vitamin D deficiency.
superdude4agzefaggot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:39:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That isn't what 'loophole' means.
PMMEYOURDANKESTMEME ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:30:50 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a ginger, I also stay inside because my likelyhood of skin cancer is much higher than everyone else.
Bonneville865 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:33 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now I'm curious... what's the real reason you avoid skin cancer?
headpats_and_pancake ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 15:51:43 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At school, the nurse at the very least distrusts me and the fact that Fibro exists. I figured out that she always goes on break a couple minutes past midday. If she isn't there you go to the office who have no choice but to give you the benefit of the doubt and send you home.
Easy ticket out of there.
cornnosaurus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:05:33 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What is fibro?
perpetuallytemporary ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:07:41 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i think he means fibromyalgia
headpats_and_pancake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:24:13 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Basically you get really tired and your nerves and joints play up massively.
IAmTheToastGod ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:57:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gas station had self serve soft serve. Rule was it had to fit on the cone. So I would buy a empty forty ounce cup for twenty five cents and then pay a dollar for the cone, fill the cup up with ice cream and put the cone on top. Forty ounces of ice cream for about a dollar fifty.
Scripter17 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:55:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
O great and almighty toast god, please make everyone's toast burnt except mine.
IAmTheToastGod ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:12:03 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
May your butter spread evenly and your toast forever be golden, amen
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:37:30 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Scripter17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:21 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I take pride in it, although, I can't think of a makeshift joke other than you.
Let that sink in...
GonzoGourmand ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:30:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
USA: You can avoid the penalty for not having health insurance if you manage your income tax withholding so that the IRS does not owe you a refund. The penalty can only be deducted from your refund, so no refund means no penalty.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:56:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, Obamacare fines roll over to the next year, the next and they never just go away. The IRS is the most brutal cock sucking collection agency in the world when it comes to fucking you over on your tax dollars.
You would basically need to be dead broke the rest of your life for your system to work out. It would be a nightmare!
GonzoGourmand ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:29:05 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Um, no. You only need to manage your withholding so you are never owed a refund, which is standard best practice for the financially astute.
Why do you think that you need to be dead broke to not be owed a refund?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"The penalty can only be deducted from your refund, so no refund means no penalty".
The penalty will apply weather you are owed a refund or not. IRS penalties roll over for year to year.
GonzoGourmand ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:56:40 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The penalty can ONLY be deducted from a refund. It might roll over...but if you are not owed a refund the next year you still can not be penalized. That's the loophole!
Since one should never be owed a refund if one is properly managing ones taxes...one should never face the penalty.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:02:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeap, you run with that and let me know how things are going in ten years. Good luck!
GonzoGourmand ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:30:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They only have seven years to collect. So long as one perpetually properly manages ones taxes then the penalty will never be collected. Since millions upon millions of people already properly manage their taxes this is an easy loophole for many people.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:18:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn man, come on, if you are going to post important issues like this, make sure the information is correct. The IRS has 10 years to collect back taxes from the time they find out about the violation. So if they don't know about it for two, three or four years, add that amount of time to the ten years.
The IRS will usually file liens way before the 10 year statue of limitations anyway.
GonzoGourmand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:42 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My apologies, I forgot a detail about the very simple and very easy to remember Internal Revenue Code.
The loophole remains incredibly simple and completely valid.
dirtymoney ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:05:36 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think they want to keep from making it a legal issue that will get challenged.
IMO it is always best to owe anyway because otherwise you are giving the federal government a free loan (of your money) throughout the year. I always prefer to owe.
hitension ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:08:20 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God America is depressing
Fidesphilio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:54:06 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also----per Turbotax, at least----if your lowest-cost plan available is below a certain threshold (which I have no idea what that cutoff is, sorry) then even if you only had insurance for say, 4 months out of 12 you won't end up having to pay a penalty.
That saved my ass last year.
Lyn1987 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:20:55 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not even. All you need to do is file your taxes online. As long as you have not put your information into your states healthcare exchange then they have no way of verifying that you actually have insurance.
GonzoGourmand ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:49:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True but tax evasion is not a loophole.
amgin3 ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 12:08:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When you buy people gifts for Christmas, save the receipts and re-buy the same items on boxing day when everything is on sale. Wait a few days, then return the re-bought items using the original Christmas gift receipts.
Gonzobot ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 13:00:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Super fraudulent, and won't work on most big ticket things - anything with a serial number, for example. So no electronics over fifty bucks would be eligible. Kinda makes it more hassle than worth imo.
[deleted] ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 14:32:42 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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Gonzobot ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 14:35:04 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. You're describing fraud. You are deliberately misrepresenting your returned merchandise to gain monetary compensation that you could not get without breaking the law. Have a local lawyer explain this to you if you don't comprehend what I'm saying.
Gld4neer ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:45:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Target has a company policy that expressly allows this practice. Buy something on sale, return it later and get a refund of the current sale price. My wife's friend works there and says the same people come in and do it every week - only they take it a step further and buy all of the item that's on sale to multiply their "earnings". She hates it, because it's a PITA and the people that do it are as rude and nasty as you can get. But, no matter how much she complains, the response from management is "that's policy".
IRodeInOnALargeDog ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:20:59 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not what they're doing though. They said to buy one at full price, give it away, buy one on sale, and return it with the receipt for the full price one, which is no longer accurate.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:42:04 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's bad if they buy the second item, but you're more than welcome to come in and ask for the discounted price if you bought the item within 7-10 days at most major retailers.
Gld4neer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:51:44 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, it's worse. The net result of the OP's scenario is only a retroactive discount on a product (which is kept), while in the Target scenario the customer actually receives a net gain while keeping zero products. Basically, they get paid cash for doing it, while the OP just gets the sale price earlier than it is offered.
His scenario actually mirrors a defunct Best Buy policy (other retailers may still employ it) which said 'if you buy this product now and it goes on sale within 30 days, we'll refund you the difference'.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:48:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OP's scenario is fraud, while Target's scenario is just stupid policy. One being illegal, the other just being stupid.
dan1son ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sort of.
A lot of stores have a price match policy that extend through the return period (mostly for this reason). That includes price matching with themselves. If you can return it still then you can return the older one and buy a new one at a discount. It's only remotely fraudulent because you are pretending to return the item you purchased earlier with the old receipt (it's only slightly different than bringing the old one with you at the same time to return it). And most stores don't track individual items except in certain instances and financially consider it the same item anyway.
I worked at best buy for a long time in the past and we'd happily just give you the difference back with just the receipt. No point in going through OPs craziness.
If someone came in with the same model on a receipt with unmatched serial numbers (like a game console or one of the other few high shrink items we did track) we'd question them. If they explained they tried to do what OP did and could provide both receipts and they weren't an ass i would've given them the discount anyway.
[deleted] ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 14:40:08 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Gonzobot ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:47:18 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't matter if you feel bad or not, you're still advocating crime in a life hack thread. Stop it. You can only say this is a good thing if you buy on boxing day to save money and also don't attempt to appear like a good guy by having the gifts in your possession before boxing day prices are in effect.
[deleted] ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 14:51:33 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Gonzobot ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:59:33 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fraud is a crime. You do not get to change this fact.
And your particular brand of fraud is #5 on this list.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Gonzobot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:29:05 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And you think there would be laws about something similar for a different price being fraud, but there's no fraud in returning a known different price (but exactly similar item) for a different price? That's the part where you abandon logic to support your criminal choice. Look, guy, that was literally the first result I searched on mobile. I don't need to prove to you what you're doing is illegal. But you do need to not be that guy. This world does not need more of you.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:35:04 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Gonzobot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You are explicitly NOT buying the item at the price they sold it at. You are buying the pre Christmas priced item at post Christmas prices. You are committing fraud to do so. Don't act like this is anything else. Justifying your fraud by proclaiming yourself to be anti-establishment doesn't make any sense either. These companies that you are defrauding (at Christmas time, no less. You monster.) actually do have a right to profit, just like you have the right to shop at a cheaper competitor. Nobody is forcing you to buy the things you buy at the price you pay.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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MrNazgul ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:17 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who even cares whether it's technically illegal or immoral? If you're so fucking hard up for money that you have to go through the process of doing this then maybe you should instead invest your time in finding a better paying job.
Madness_Reigns ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:50:18 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The law is what it is not what you think it should be. Always remember that. And if you feel that this is a big enough injustice to warrant action, then be prepared for the repercussions.
HeartShapedFarts ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:34:07 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
These identical items don't have identical price, which is why this is fraud. There are people who have gotten caught doing this, though only after years and years apparently. It's a good tip, though, just be careful.
e60deluxe ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:07:15 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Theres a really simple way to solve this puzzle. You lie about when you bought it which causes the store to return more money to you. Lying to take money from someone is fraud. So here's how you solve it.
When you go to return it, you can't lie. You can show your Christmas receipt, you can say I bought these on boxing day but I don't have that receipt with me, but luckily I bought the same item I bought at Christmas. Here's the receipt, Process return please. But you can't lie and say I bought this at Christmas and changed my mind now.
If your plan relies on lying, it's fraud. By definition.
myanusisbleeding101 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:16:31 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Genius!
TheScienceNigga ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:38:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not really a loophole, that's just a really convoluted version of theft.
ShadowDusk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:48:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
T vas a la cana
BigDamnHead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:56:06 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The hell is boxing day?
ZenGuruji ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:46:43 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The day after Christmas (Dec 26). It's celebrated in a lot of commonwealth countries like UK, Canada, Australia, etc.
Alexbrainbox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:59 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Christ, if you're that stingy just buy them their gift after Christmas, or ask them to swap the new for the old after you get the new one in sale.
Wambulance_Driver ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:44:19 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If your car had satellite radio and it expires, you can go to their website and input some fake info and get free satellite radio for three months.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:25:15 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm listening...
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:39:32 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then you won't need a loophole, if you're already listening.
CylonGlitch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:03:06 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I purchased a used Escalade about 10 years ago, the previous owner had paid for Sirius..... and I guess they are still paying for it, because I still get it, never paid a penny for it.
barron42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:00:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's likely a dealer activation code.
CylonGlitch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:21 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They run forever?
barron42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:09:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
No, it's for testing and demo and will end when the shop closes. Dealers get a couple of them and maybe yours is one. XM also did a contact back in early 2000s for like $700 you could get a subscription for the life of the receiver. That could be it too
CylonGlitch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The car is now 16 years old, so I'm guessing life time subscription. :D
askmethewifi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:31 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How does it run? Sounds like a good used car to buy!
CylonGlitch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:07:27 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, it's 14 years old, math slipped this old mind. Yes, it runs great. I've had it since about 2008. But we don't really drive it that much, we use it for family trips and when one of the cars is in the shop. I have been driving it for the last three weeks because we had 6 family members from out of the country visiting. But normally we don't drive it for 3 to 6 months; then put 1 to 2 thousand miles on it. I think we've only put 30k on it since we got it.
Thunder_54 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:38:43 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Spotify without ads without premium. Use play.spotify.com with adblock plus.
Scripter17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OR, this & this.
mudbutt20 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:03:35 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wendy's has a 4 for $4 plan where you can get a he bacon cheese burger or chicken sandwhich, small fries, small drink, and spicy or regular chicken nuggets. Good amount of food right? Wel, if you ask for a large, it only goes up to like $5 something. So you get tons of food and more than you would with any other meal for many dollars cheaper.
Scripter17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:57:50 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Saved.
Adogg9111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:12:49 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your lord and savior Wendy is ready to serve you. Or is it Dave?
Scripter17 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:14:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What?
jarrodeast ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:29:05 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can turn right at a red light..
possiblysabrina ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:01:44 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can also turn left at a red light if it's from a one-way street to another one-way street.
perpetuallytemporary ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:32 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depending on the state. I think like 37 states allow it. Mine technically doesn't, but I've done it in front of a cop before not realizing and didn't get pulled over.
possiblysabrina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:25 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I live in Canada, specifically BC. They actually tell you this in the drivers Ed book and sometimes people get quizzed on it on their knowledge test. I've never done it, as I don't live anywhere near a one-way street afaik
bdd4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:08:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not in NY, you can't.
jarrodeast ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:50:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Duuuuude that sucks!
vale93kotor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's only in the US though
Scripter17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:19 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can do it in Canada if you're in the farthest right lane (Excluding bike lane) and turn right.
perpetuallytemporary ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:10 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, in many states, it's legal to be in an intersection when the light turns red, just not to enter an intersection when its already red. If you're trying to make a left pull out into the intersection and wait for the light to to turn red/the oncoming traffic to stop and complete your turn.
lannisters_debts ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:25:08 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A frisco melt is a double steakburger on white bread (toast) with thousand island dressing and cheese. I just saved you 1.39
perpetuallytemporary ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:56 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sourdough bread, one slice american, one slice swiss. worked at steak and shake.
Morasar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:52:45 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you donate to charity you can pick up Thor's hammer
coolrulez555 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:35:04 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Correct me if I am wrong, but I am pretty sure it is legal to download pirated software as long as you just download and don't upload (P2P)
TylerOnTech ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:36:49 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You are wrong, just usually so technically difficult to prove you downloaded it that it's not worth trying to pursue. Much easier to prosecute when you can say "I know the person at this IP address was sharing my content because I successfully downloaded it from them."
Still not legal though.
g3istbot ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:04:40 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When you are calling a service provider; be it for phones, cable, whatever, you're likely going to get one an automated voice service.
Most systems allow you to skip over this and get to a voice representative by repeatedly pressing '0'.
So lets say you are calling Verizon - you select your language and once it starts reading off the menu items just start hitting 0. Eventually it will say that its connecting you to a representative or whatever. You still have to wait in queue, but you get to skip over all the other stuff.
Jalopalax ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:06:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But then you have to wait on hold again to be transferred to the correct department.
g3istbot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:29:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
sometimes, not all the time. Also those automated voice systems are designed to confuse and take a long time, often requiring multiple call backs to get out of the menu system. It saves time in the long term, trust me.
CylonGlitch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:54:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Many of the voice automated systems also detect curse words and route you promptly.
Gld4neer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:55:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can also just say "representative", no matter which menu you're in (assuming it's a voice activated system, of course).
novelty_bone ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:41:15 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How to get what's basically a Big Mac for ~half the price at McDonald's
Adogg9111 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:24:04 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And I still don't. Curse you! Here is your upvote.
novelty_bone ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:43:29 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
mcdouble or double cheeseburger (depends on location, the double cheeseburger price has a 50 cent price variance, and that's what i've found within michigan). add mac sauce and lettuce. just missing the middle bun as this point.
NotReallyMaeWest ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 16:47:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're planning on going to a cool or trendy bar on a date, just make a reservation. This is especially effective if the bar keeps a line outside, and you can breeze right past it. Makes you look like you thought ahead and are definitely more important than the fools standing in line.
Plan ahead a little. Chicks dig it.
stealthxstar ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:08:07 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not a loophole, that's common sense
SavvySillybug ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:31:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't even know bars took reservations. I learned something.
stealthxstar ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:37:56 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some do, some don't.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:44:15 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you cut your legs off you can get free money from the government for being disabled.
dirtymoney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:39 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My beetus is gonna do that for me!
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:07:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 06:12:20 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought you liked having your holes plugged :(
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 06:13:07 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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anomalous_cowherd ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:07:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not even the poophole loophole?
ranchochupacabrash ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:12:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shhhh... We gotta keep this one low key.
Fidesphilio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:57:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah if you bring Loki into it he'll start getting weird with horses and the whole thing becomes a complete fiasco.
DCdictator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea honestly I have a couple good ones, but if people start doing them they won't work anymore.
mindboinkme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:58:37 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. You can know how do it when I'm dead.
Dent1409 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:22:07 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The poophole loophole.
Doesnt count if its in the butt + God cant see it so you are still a virgin and getting into heaven.
katieblu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:59:49 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Came here hoping to see this.
Dent1409 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:03 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Glad to be of service :)
DoctorOctagonapus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:21 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does /r/ShittyChristianity exist?
EnnuiWoodpecker ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 12:49:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does the 4th Amendment count as a loophole? Because you'd be amazed the shit you can get out of if you know your basic rights.
sun_worth ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:19:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm all about the 3rd Amendment. I can't tell you how many times Sgt. Asshat and his band of troopers show up looking for a place to sleep.
HeartShapedFarts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:21 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is America. You'll get shot.
CylonGlitch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:01:42 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's why I support the 2nd amendment; I shoot back.
Gld4neer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:42 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only if you're poor.
mothstuckinabath ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:13:08 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Another good loophole is, a lot of lawyers will do a consultation for free. Then they'll charge you if you want them to do actual work like draft a document, send a letter, do research, appear in court, what have you. But sometimes they know off the top of their heads what you'll need to do and tell you, and sometimes you can do it yourself.
Another good trick is for any smallish legal issue, especially one with another person who doesn't have a lawyer yet, hire a lawyer to send them a letter. A lot will do it for a small flat fee because it takes them like five minutes. Lots of people will back down when they receive an official, scary, slightly hard-to-understand letter that cites specific laws and comes from a real lawyer. Significantly cheaper to cut it off at the head than getting into an actual legal battle.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 11:18:17 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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Bustedschema ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:20:21 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm still like 99% sure OP is the villain in that story and we all contributed to ruining an innocent person's life.
JustSeanAgain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:52:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
nosleep
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:50:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Eboo143 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:05:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Til fraud is a loophole
HeartShapedFarts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OP didn't specify "legal"
Zerotan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:01:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3acbek/reddit_what_is_your_craziest_dorm_story_nsfw/csbhzdt
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:15:03 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is more of an artists tip. Got a mean case of artists block? Well, if you also happen to be a painter, try this: throw some paint, randomly, on to a canvas. You will think of something great to paint before the splotches even dry, because otherwise you just wasted a whole bunch of paint. And paint, costs money. Also, if you're looking to try oils but don't want to spend a shit ton of money, check the clearance aisle at a Hobby Lobby because they usually will have oil paints that are half price. And all the colors too, black, white, primaries, and some good yellows/greens/browns, all 4-8oz tubes($5-7 each). Itll probably be under $50 for everything you need, which is good for oils and will last you 2+ paintings depending on how thick you go. Also, cheapjoes. Cheapjoes is the best
03114 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:25:56 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On battlefield 4 using the commander mode, if you switch the camera to the live camera feed, you can kill anyone in the spawn using the cruise missile.
dirtymoney ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:27:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know if this still works, but it used to be that if you incurred a debt after first getting service and the debtor refused payment.... the bill suddenly becomes null and void.
Used to be that flimflam men would go into a diner, eat a meal and then either whip out a $100 bill or a LOT of pennies to pay for it afterwards. And if the cashier said they could take that.... then you got your meal free.
This didnt work IF there was a sign in an obvious place that you had a GOOD chance to see before you ordered your meal that basically stated what forms of currency they only accept.
Creepsniffle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:49:17 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Flimflam men"
Have an upvote!
PitchPurple ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:29:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Makeup hack: buy paintbrushes instead of makeup brushes. Same effect, same quality, a quarter of the price.
lizzythelizard26 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:48 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do this! It's legit!
SmoSays ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:20:49 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The last paintbrush I bought was $20 (5-0).how much are makeup brushes?
PitchPurple ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:45 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For good quality, around 40-50$ per brush where I am. Paintbrushes with the same hair (fiber?) are less than half that usually.
dirtymoney ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:49:34 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you have a lot of money in your life's savings, lost your job and want to get on public assistance (food stamps/welfare etc etc).... take all that money in your savings and buy a home with it. You cannot get public assistance if you have a large amount of money in the bank, but property (owning a house) doesnt count.
Might only work in Missouri where i live. One time, I made so little money that I wondered if I qualified for any public assistance programs so I took the tests online to see if I did (I didnt qualify), but in the process I found out about that little tidbit above.
scruffylittledog ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:36:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have not tried this...but.... Buy a newest edition college textbook $$$
Redeem the 'Student Consult' online version, videos and all.
Then trade in said newest edition textbook as 'used' to Amazon for a pretty good price (or sell it for close to RRP)
= Very cheap eBook!
Xyklon-B ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:32:49 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't have to do your taxes every year
Bob_Bobinson ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 10:56:52 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you've committed light treason, they typically let you off with a warning the first time.
pm_me_your_cuck_pics ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 11:15:45 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most people in this thread don't understand the word loophole. Others don't understand the word treason.
PmMe_Your_Perky_Nips ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 11:46:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you have enough money law enforcement doesn't understand what treason is either.
Reaper628 ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 13:58:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just ask Hilary
ZenGuruji ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:48:11 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. There's a difference between "cool fact" vs. Life Pro-Tip vs. loophole.
fallopianfuck ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 13:09:33 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
everyone know about people playing dumb, if you want get a away with something pretend to be soccially retarded
dormsta ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:27:02 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
doing great ๐๐ป
DatBowl ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:19:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you comply with the police they won't beat you.
ilikespi ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 17:47:40 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tell that to the caregiver of that autistic man that recently got shot
Gld4neer ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:59:42 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was shot, not beaten.
Renax127 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:15:36 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well you're not wrong
SavvySillybug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:02 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hope your day of cake is a happy one.
DoctorOctagonapus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:47:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you're black
dirtymoney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:10 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
yet if you comply... you might get charged. Like say for an example.....
In NYC.... a cop asked to see a man's pocket knife he had clipped to his pocket. It was a simple thumb-opener pocket knife which is legal. The man handed it over willingly. The cop then gripped the knife by the blade and whipped his hand in such a hard and fast motion that the knife opened. The cop then called it a "gravity knife" which are illegal in NYC.
If the guy had politely refused the cop's request... this would not have happened.
There is such a thing as a lawful order (that you MUST comply with) and a request. Police often request alllllllllllllll kinds of things they dont have the legal authority to make you do. ANd will then fuck you for doing it.
You dont have to comply with an officer when he requests you do something. You DO have to when it is a lawful order.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:45:35 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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randomjoshencounter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:05:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Prepaid?
StraightOuttaBottoms ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:26:33 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
See the thing about mine is they automatically start the new plan without my permission. What should I do then?
tmleafsfan ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:01:40 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Applies to Canada only...
Cell phone plans are ridiculously expensive in most of Canada. Nation wide plan with unlimited calling and 5 GB LTE data can cost $90 easily. There is a loophole on Koodo website, where you can get above details for $48 only. This is supposed to be for specific provinces only (MB and SK) but people in other provinces can have it too, and that too without falsifying.
All thanks to the glitch/loophole on their website.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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tmleafsfan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:21 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting. What does the plan look like? I shouldn't have a problem getting a business line.
Captcha_Imagination ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:34 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not as good as your deal. I pay $65 per phone and we only get 2 GB of data to share, that's not considering the $600 credit or taxes.
I used to pay $90 plus tax for the plan you are talking about.
This is our plan right now.....I just wanted to pay less. Maybe when the contract is up I might see if the deal you speak of is still available.
350 anytime nationwide shareable mins Unltd nationwide E(6pm-7am)&W(6pmF-7amM) Unltd sent& recvd txt,pic&vid msgs - Can Call Waiting, Conference Calling Call Display & Message Centre 2 GB for personal email, IM, Internet & tethering in Canada
Gonzobot ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:59:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but it's Koodo though. Just get Wind instead, I've been enjoying thirty dollar unlimited service for years already.
tmleafsfan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:05:55 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Koodo is Telus subsidiary and Koodo is ranked really high in customer satisfaction.
I found Wind network to be subpar, and internet speeds as well. Anyways, that is my observation and might be different for you but I didn't find Wind service as reliable.
The difference was night and day when I tried to use my friend's phone last month as well.
Gonzobot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:37:04 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but that's only if you live in rural areas. And frankly, doubling my monthly bill to also adding restrictions on what I can do is just bad math. I can't comprehend how anybody functions when they have to treat their cell phone like a pay phone - I'm not paying for service for some of the things I need to do, some of the time
tmleafsfan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:40:49 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I live within Toronto and Wind isn't even in the same league as Big 3 in terms of signal reliability and internet speed.
Besides, "unlimited" with speeds throttled to 2g after a while doesn't really scream unlimited.
Gonzobot ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:49:59 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's still unlimited though. At no point do I get more bills because of where I walked or what I downloaded or who I messaged. That alone is worth the money, never minding the fact that I get to be happy with not supporting the "big 3". Fuck those guys. Literally the only reason I don't have to pay half a paycheck for cell service is because the government forced those big 3 companies to not continue their oligarchy years ago. We'd all be paying $200 a month for service measured in minutes otherwise.
ElDuderino2112 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:18 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's be great if wind was capable of holding a decent signal anywhere.
Gonzobot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:32 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's Boolean. You either have service or you live in a place that's uncivilized. Canada is literally the biggest possible country to cover for cell phones with the least amount of reason to do so. This is why the big three companies constantly advertise that they have "the best coverage in Canada", despite the fact that 97% of Canada isn't even populated. I don't care how large your network is, I don't go to any of those places! Nobody does! I want a cell phone that works that doesn't cost ridiculous amounts to run.
friehnd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:31:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're a minor and sign a contract and break rules on said contract, you don't have to comply with the consequences under the law. It's because of something called "The Capacity to Contract".
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:49:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's why organizations won't sell car's, homes or do contracts with minors. If you falsify or misrepresent your age when entering into a contract, it's called fraud.
perpetuallytemporary ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:31:55 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They'll sell, but only for cash up front. No financing.
Phreakiture ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:55:37 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you live in upstate New York, and have an EZ-Pass with the commuter option (which gives you unlimited trips of up to 30 miles for a flat fee), you can get an extra 30 miles of free travel by bouncing off at exit 25, and stay on I-890, which will put you back on the Thruway at exit 26. Flip that around if you are going East. The distance is almost the same, the only difference is whether you go past Schenectady or through it.
CylonGlitch ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:59:59 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If your company is blocking services like Spotify and you spend endless hours on your computer and would like some music. Get a VPN extension (I use ZenMate for Chrome). It creates a tunnel to their servers and IT cannot see what you're doing. In fact, I leave it on almost 100% of the time, the only time I turn it off is when I'm using the corporate intranet (I actually have IE installed for that). Never have had a problem, IT isn't snooping on me, and I can use any service I want without a problem. Just don't let your co-workers know, because once everyone starts doing it, they'll ban the VPN servers and you'll be SOL. I work for a huge multinational company, and have been doing it for years.
techsuppr0t ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:26:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Watch Chinese cartoons and play video games because real life sucks.
Scripter17 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:49:20 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you hate me, you're hating pieces of yourself, why? We share some DNA.
matto469 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:55 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you buy things at tesco and then return them, do you still keep the clubcard points?
plantsaretight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:27:32 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
order mcdoubles with big mac sauce, because dollar menus.
possiblysabrina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend does that, they charge extra $1 to make it "like a Mac" which means adding Big Mac sauce.
ImFailTastic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:35 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Either ask for it on the side or dont order it at all but when you get to the window where they give you your food (assuming you're going through the drive-thru) just ask for some in a cup or act like you ordered it. McDonalds employees never care enough so they just give it to you.
Scripter17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Test how long this will hold up, buy a liter of big mac sauce and watch the collective "WHAT did he order?!" stares from everyone pile up.
Matcauthon19 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:03 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not most people but everybody I interact with, leverage will help you lift much heavier objects
jonnyopinion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:14:14 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're happy eating other people's leftovers and the food they throw away, you can basically eat for free.
MrMagistrate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:33 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the poophole
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
nice try
majorityJLev ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:14:37 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqH_Y1TupoQ
BeautyOfTheNation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:28 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I could answer this question. But then I would have to sue you.
Honestly, in my practice area, there really aren't any legal loopholes. When it comes to disciplinary cases, i.e. when lawyers are in trouble for violating the ethics rules, if there were any legal loopholes you would be a fool to try to take advantage of them. When you are accused of violating the rules, the last thing the disciplinary board wants to see is "clever lawyering." They want to see people who own up to their responsibilities. In legal malpractice, there really aren't any loopholes. Either the lawyer violated the legal standard of care or he didn't. Either he caused damage to the client's case or he didn't.
Most loopholes are located in areas such as tax law, which I tend to run away from. You will find loopholes in areas that are governed by a system of complex statutes and bureaucracies more than you will find them elsewhere. In criminal law, people like to claim there are a lot of loopholes, but the reality is, what you have is the requirement that those involved in prosecuting cases and arresting people follow the Constitution. I don't consider those loopholes. Sloppy legislation in criminal and other areas of the law can lead to loopholes though. By that I mean someone can get away with a crime because of the wrong word or because of where a comma is located. That comes down to people not thinking about unintended consequences of the law or people who don't understand how to put a sentence together properly. So you will see loopholes there.
If you want examples of specific loopholes though, you will need to ask people in specific practice areas. I would give you back your credits, but apparently they are going away, so I won't bother.
drhuntzzz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you are running a medical practice that doesn't bill insurance electronically you're not covered by HIPAA.
geegeeallin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:32 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Open container only applies to the original container in my town.
Wrobot_rock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:13 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Many stores have a policy not to intervene with robberies, so you could literally walk in and take whatever you want and nobody will stop you
assumetehposition ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:51 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If there's a really bad traffic jam, sometimes you can move ahead faster by taking an offramp, going through the intersection and getting back on the highway. I do this most often during those nice Minnesota snowstorms where everybody moves at 2 mph. I do not however, drive on the shoulder doing this, because I am not that kind of asshole.
Garblin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:06:31 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Starving and homeless? Walk into any police station, ER, psychology clinic, or other human services location and tell them you're suicidal. You'll be admitted to inpatient psychiatric, get meds, food, and a bed, for at least a week.
psbwb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:26:55 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man, the inpatient I visited was great. I was told that if I was having any anxiety at all to come get some Xanax. Then every 10 minutes I was again asked if I needed Xanax or if I needed more Xanax.
Garblin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:29 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Strange, usually they escalate past xanax pretty fast at those places.
norulers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:18 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't have to go through the porno scanners in the airport. Just say "opt out" and they will give you a manual pat down instead.
Anarch33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:11:40 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To get free wifi on delta planes, you have to go and say I want to watch free movies, keep on going until it asks to download the app, when the app store comes up, just quit, you now have free wifi for 10-15 minutes. When it expires, repeat
veganvilla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:36 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you go into Whole Foods and say something like "hey my friend says you guys have this sticker so that I can try something for free" and usually they'll put a sticker or cross out the bar code. Can also try at the checkout. Say someone working said to ask the cashier.
VorticalHydra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:17 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL loophole is equivalent to life hack
Goonya ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:13 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In Victoria (state in Australia, similar rules apply to different states), an individual must record in a log book 120 hours of driving experience while on their 'Learner lcence' in order for them to qualify to sit the test for their 'Probationary licence' after they turn 18. Any adolescent will tell you that doing all the 120 hours is an absolutely tedious and mongrel thing to do (it does provide good experience though)
There is a way to bypass it though. Live in New Zealand.
I moved to NZ when I was 16, when I had my Australian Learner license and a log book with just 20 recorded hours of driving. Because I lived there I could get my permit converted to a New Zealand learners permit (no test necessary). NZ doesn't have the 120 hour rule, so when I was old enough (17) I did the driving test for the 'Restricted licence' with only about 50 total hours experience . I moved back to Victoria at age 18, got a certificate of particulars and got my NZ restricted licence converted to a Victorian Probationary one (Red P's, no test needed). A year after I got my NZ restricted, the local licensing authorities (VicRoads) sent me a letter saying I was now on my Green P's, which was cool because I hadn't yet turned 19. Now I hoon around town gleeful in the fact that my log book still has only 24 hours recorded in it. You could of course just forge log book entries, but that's not as fun as living in the South Island
TL;DR: Avoid driving for 120 hours by living in a different country for just under 24 months.
phobos77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:42 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bundle your property tax payments for maximum income tax deduction. Depending on your other deductions, and your deadline for property taxes, this can be a great tax saving strategy.
Example: Assume you have (for example) $8,000 every year in mortgage interest, $8,000 in property tax, and no other deductions. If you pay both normally, you will itemize deductions and take a $16,000 deduction every year.
To bundle, pay your 2016 property tax in January 2017, and your 2017 property tax in December 2017. (Note that the property tax payment deadline in many jurisdictions is early the next year. For example, mine is due on January 31. Be sure to check the payment deadline before trying the bundling strategy.) If you do this, in 2017, you will have $24,000 in itemized deductions - two years' worth of property tax, and one years' worth of mortgage. Note that property tax is deductible in the year that you actually pay it.
In 2018, you will only have $8,000 of deductions (since you will be paying your 2018 property tax in January 2019). However, the standard deduction for a married couple filing jointly is currently $12,600. (Will be slightly higher by 2018.) So in 2018 you take the standard deduction instead of itemizing. Total deduction for the two years is $24,000+$12,600=$36,600, as opposed to $32,000 if you did not bundle. $4,600 extra deduction translates to $1,150 tax savings every two years, assuming you're in the 25% bracket.
PM_ME_YOUR_BEE_SYRUP ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:41:50 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A local branch of a nationwide sub sandwich chain will give you their leftover bread if you ask for it around closing time. I haven't paid for bread in years.
thedankbank1021 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:44:24 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trespassing is a super easy way to get from A to B quicker. And 99% of the time the owner doesn't notice it doesn't care.
Just avoid B&E as much as possible.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:17:29 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you are a minor with a permit, you can get your employee or school to write you a note that allows you to drive... 6 months after getting the permit, without a license.
I know that you can just get the license after 6 months, but I have a mother who keeps DELAYING my trip to the dmv because she insists that I "need more time for my brain to develop." I've been driving for the past year.
scotscott ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:10:26 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its not gay if you don't do butt stuff!
belindaaa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:38:47 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're in a jury and think that the person on trial is in fact guilty but that the crime was justified, you can say that and the criminal will get off. I forget the name for it through
cecilrt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:23:16 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Google...
Wordness2DaTurdness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:54:52 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That you can park in a Handicapped space if doesn't have two forms of notice. You can't be ticketed or towed when it's just painted on the ground. There has to be a sign or post too. However, you're still likely to get keyed by some Social Justice Warriors.
boomsquad777 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:05:25 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're using Apple Music and don't have internet on the go. Just download one song to your phone and you can skip to any song you like from there.
Americasparkle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:17:28 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Always incorporate. Don't ever be self-employed.
zlmisok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:48:47 on July 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Q malll
c010rb1indusa ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 13:28:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This only applies to the parking garages with the centralized machines where you punch in your space number.
If you go somewhere in two cars, park next to each other but only pay for one space. If you get a ticket, take your friends parking receipt go down to the attendants office and say you punched in the wrong space by accident. They always void the ticket. Only have to pay for one parking space instead of two! It's the one of the cheapest most useless loopholes there is but it counts.
egnards ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 15:33:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not a loop hole. . that's lying and stealing.
HeartShapedFarts ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:43:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not a legal loophole, but it's still a loophole. But I'm glad it gave you the opportunity to get all morally righteous.
MrNazgul ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:06:59 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's pretty fucking sad that people are so hard up that they even bother to think of this shit.
SmoSays ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:17:30 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went to Chicago and parking was like $60
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:30 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
"Attention To Details" is the best (and easiest) way to attract the best spouse, get the best careers, have the nice home, get ahead in life and stay ahead. Not to mention be happy.
Sophilosophical ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:41 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Retitle to: What loophole do you know that most askredditors will now also know about and begin to take advantage of?
Sophilosophical ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:49 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: Every other comment reply is "You don't understand what a loophole is." The majority of us just want LPTs and not a lesson in dictionary definitions.
Elfish-Phantom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:28 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Loophole that only works in Canada, Blackmarket smartphone plans.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:39 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The people's peephole poophole loophole
subkulcha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:51 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just a side note, I feel like loophole is a double up. A loop, makes a hole, so it's like saying atm machine, or PIN number.
DemeaningSarcasm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:34 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Want to have an unregistered firearm?
Buy an 80% AR-15 lower. You can buy them online. Bring it to your buddy who has a CNC Machine. But if you want to do it a ghetto style, you can get away with using a powerdrill and a flat bastard. If you want you can also anodize it.
Because 80% lowers aren't considered a lower receiver, AND the fact that the lower receiver is the part of an AR-15 that is registered as the, "weapon" (not the BCG or Rifle), 80% Lowers aren't stamped.
Then go to your local gun store and buy the rest of the parts for your gun. You can even buy rifle kits off of Palemetto State Armory.
Doing it this way allows you to can get yourself an unregistered rifle via legal means.
nonconformist3 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:44:57 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it's more of a lifehack. In everything you do, if you want to do it well, see where other people made mistakes and aim to not make the same, then when you see your own life, be strong enough to face your own mistakes and not make them again. I also ask people, especially those closest to me, to tell me what I'm doing wrong. Give me the bad news first basically.
superdude4agzefaggot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:38:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And when you're skiing, if something gets in your way, turn!
Yoedric ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:32:05 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah... That's not a loophole.
the92playboy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:42:18 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A husband and wife cannot be tried for the same crime.
NoBlueKoolAid ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:50:00 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_and_Ethel_Rosenberg
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:03 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is a bad example as they were tried for different reasons, although ultimately those reasons fell under the US code for treason and espionage.
the92playboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've got the worst fucking attorneys.
VeronicaJaneDio ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:02:25 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The "poophole loophole" for keeping your virginity.
SleepSeeker75 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:16:09 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When speaking to a deaf person, you don't have to scream or do a shitty version if sign language. Over time, we learn to read lips.
The loop hole is that you don't scream at them or say "what???!!" And laugh at them, and you, in turn, get to have a respectable conversation with someone you may otherwise not have.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:42:33 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If it's a loophole, I don't want people to know about it.
For fuck's sake.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:04:11 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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KarmannosaurusRex ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 12:10:34 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Loophole: If you want to be taken seriously in real life, don't call money caps.
BunnyPerson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:34:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This thread isn't about Fallout?
JDogg_of_RS ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:27 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can avoid speeding tickets byfollowingthespeedlimit
Budborne ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 12:30:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its legal to shit out your own window, apparently.
hesaidshesaid9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:42:53 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love the word "apparently" As if you've just tried to shit out your window. Lol
Budborne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:22 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually there was a post in another thread about it, and I want to believe.
Jodecho ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:15:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Poophole loophole
notjawn ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:10:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: Horrible advice that's gonna get you in trouble.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:19 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's mostly why I opened the thread - to downvote all the "how to steal" posts.
Thatguyatworkonhispc ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:53:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can easily buy stuff at stores use the item and return it for a full refund (within return date). I did this with several game consoles, cameras and phone chargers.
AndThusThereWasLight ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:15:53 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can board flights in the United States first regardless of boarding group if you claim to be disabled. Gate agents are not legally allowed to ask you what your disability is and can be fined a large bit of money if they do.
t-- ยท -29 points ยท Posted at 11:14:39 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Welfare system a loophole. Single mothers don't choose good providers to help raise kids, (because being promiscuous is easier); and they somehow are able to survive with kids with ease, because they vote for a government that has no problem taxing all the hard workers in the country to pay for her bad decisions.
literaphile ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:13:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone who says you can survive on welfare "with ease" has obviously never experienced the system, or known anyone who has.
t-- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:11:28 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
"with ease" meaning
workinggetting paid without earning it. And it is easy because plenty of single mothers do it and we've seen an increase in single motherhood because of the welfare system. Don't get mad at my observation; Get mad at your life choices.edit: changed a word.
literaphile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:28 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My life choices? I'm a lawyer; I'm doing just fine. Try backing up your assertions with facts and statistics.
t-- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:06:50 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a known fact that the welfare system is a failure. (and also that single mothers are a huge percentage of the beneficiaries). I wasn't making any unheard of claims.
Also, I was speaking in generalities. I wasn't throwing personal attacks at you. I don't know you and you don't know me. Glad your doing fine as a lawyer. Just wondering, what kind of lawyer are you?
possiblysabrina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:09:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In BC, welfare is $210/month if you are by yourself. They only allow you to be on welfare for 6 months - 1 year before kicking you out because you should be able to get a job. You have to fill out a sheet of a minimum of 5 or 10 employers PER DAY you applied to (can't remember the exact number) and they WILL call those employers to see if you really did apply. Might be embarrassing to some people for their potential bosses and such to find this out... Clearly OP doesn't know what they're on about.
One of my friends a few years back was on welfare, she ran away from home and was in a shelter and they helped her apply for it. We used to hang out all the time cuz they made her leave during the day to do productive things even though no one did and that's when we'd talk about this stuff.
literaphile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:40 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're exactly right. I'm a lawyer (I'm BC too) and I've worked with people in the 'system'. Anyone who says they have it easy has no idea what they're talking about.
pizzasoftheearth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, because the only people on welfare are promiscuous women.
t-- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:22:13 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its about making a bad decision after another ending up on welfare.
Bolloux ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Democracies are a loophole. Don't vote for the party who will run the country in the most responsible way, just vote your hand into someone else's pocket by picking the one that will give you money someone else had to earn instead.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 12:35:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The down votes from the communists of the world begin to flood in.
t-- ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:02:33 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You probably shouldn't have said anything cuz the commies are everywhere and they bring gifts of down votes to all.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:18 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Communism = Everyone is fucked. Capitalism = Your fucked if you don't work. America today = If you work hard then you pay more taxes so freeloaders can have stuff.
The kind commies are merely sharing what they have (Downvotes) because everyone has to follow their rules and share the load. How considerate.
hajonious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:53 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Capitalism equals your fucked unless your rich. Fixed that for you. Some of the hardest working people in this country barely skate by. You sheep.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:54:43 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
First off I'm not a sheep. Those hard workers work with their muscles not their minds. Sure you could claim they simply can't work with their minds because they are stupid but you aren't born stupid. If they had studied instead of playing or watching tv they could have easily achieved good grades and gotten rich.
I believe taxes in all countries should be put towards education above all else. Third world countries are poor because people aren't educated. That needs to be fixed obviously but why should other people pay for Internet or classrooms? I personally do donate to charities focused on education but I hate when governments try to raise my taxes and force me to pay.
hajonious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:36:03 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm confused so you want taxes to go towards education, but you don't want taxes to go up. Even though student populations are increasing, and new technology is available that will aide the students in learning. Also with your point that all you have to do to be rich is become educated let's look at teachers who have a master's degree, and are lucky to make 40000 a year. Now I know your going to bring up only working 9 months a year, but even if they worked the whole year that is only 52000 before taxes that isn't rich. I have my master's in occupational therapy and I bring home more than teachers, but I'm not rich. If you go to a college campus and poll the entire student population I bet no more than 10 percent earn over 150000 as a family. A majority of college students are middle class or below.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:21:24 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Occupational therapy. Seriously. Minor in gender studies and interpretative dance?
I think you'd if everyone stopped funding wars we wouldn't have any need to spend trillions on tanks and guns. Money that could be focused on education.
hajonious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:06 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No majored in biology and minored in psychology. Congress will never agree to drop funding to military especially right now with Isis threats. Are you going to also cut salary for police, firefighters, social workers, and all other government employees, or is that going to come from some other magical place too.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:57:56 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But if the world unites and stops fighting each other (due to the stubbornness of politicians with stupid ideas and restrictions) wouldn't need to spend all that money on military expenses.
http://www.dawn.com/news/1192942
8 days of military spending could fund 12 years of education.
hajonious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:30 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not doubting that, but that is never going to happen. We don't live in a perfect society.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:47:17 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because we have commies sayin we need to tax hard workers more to pay for those people. And politicians working with them.
hajonious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:50:12 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha taxes are what cause the war. How old are you.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:30 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No what causes wars is the general unhappiness about the way the country is being run or by retarded politicians who are trying to appeal to the uneducated.
hajonious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:46:45 on July 26, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My last comment was suppose to say do not cause wars. The reason we go to war is either A. we are attacked which hasn't really happened since Pearl Harbor ( unless you include 9/11 which wasn't a country attacking us) or B. Religious or human rights that those people request our help. I want to focus on religion because I feel like it is the greatest polarizing aspect of humans. If there was some way you could convert the entire world to atheism than you might have a shot at world peace, but that's not going to happen. You also have to think what would you do if an enemy of our country began developing nukes would you allow it to save tax money, or use our military too possibly avoid being nuked.
BloonWars ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 06:24:05 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LLBean.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:00:58 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I've had "one" backpack my whole life.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:22:50 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:36:39 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When have you ever needed to get into a locked airplane bathroom?
HauckPark ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:19:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Worked a place with a BS decimal hours system but they didn't divide it properly. I realized the parts of an hour didn't match up--if you were late 15 minutes they would dock you 3/10 of an hour. If you said you worked 45 minutes, though, you got credit for 8/10 of an hour. So I was never late, I just was present for a shorter period of time. Fuck you, pay me my six minutes worth!
Endro22 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:51:17 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I worked at a place with a similar time clock. The old timers had it down to a science.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:33:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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BigDamnHead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:31 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most everyone in the US is eligible for some credit union. Many credit unions are geography based, so if you live in their service area, you are eligible.
askmethewifi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:00 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to belong to a credit union when I was younger, but are they still that great?
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:00:02 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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lespaulstrat2 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:37:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You mean like that guy in the Old Testament that spent all of his time murdering innocent people? Remember that one time when he flooded the whole earth and killed every man, woman, child, animal and plant just because he got his feelings hurt?
HeartShapedFarts ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:48:54 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why only the Old Testament? Jesus said that I should kill children who disrespect their parents, so I know I'm justified if I do that.
james___uk ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:39:39 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're in the UK and want to buy an airsoft gun without the bright colouring or transparent parts but don't have a UKARA license then go to an airsoft site that sells them and play a game there, should be good enough for them. There's also private gun sales, pretty sure they're a bypass for a UKARA license too
lukeman829 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:58:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If somethig is buy one get one free (at a place where the employees don't care that much/aren't very attentative) you can get two of the BOGOF item and another item, then pull out cash and say "oh shit I don't have enough for all this, can I only get one of the [whatever is BOGOF]", they'll void one item and you'll get the other for free.
l3chner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:43 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lolwut
skalskip ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:56:18 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think I understand what he was saying. If it's buy one get one free, attempt to buy two items, in order to get another two items free. Then, at checkout, after they put all 4 items into your bag, say "oh shit I can afford only one". Then you give them one of the two you were buying back. Therefore, you're buying one item, and should be getting one free. However, you're still taking three items, because the clerk wasn't paying attention. TLDR: OP claims you can get free stuff by stealing.
RabidHippos ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:51:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you don't see something, its not illegal.
SpacebornKiller ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:13:23 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not really a loophole, but really something that they can't get you on. This works mostly in the college setting, but if you have a paper due, let's say at 11:59, and you are obviously not going to make it in time. Send your teacher an email at some time well before 11:59 but on the same day, and tell them that you are trying to submit it, but your internet is having trouble completing the action, or just something technical like that, and that you will keep trying until it works. Then while you're "trying to submit it", just finish the paper. It gives you at most, another few hours. I have had to use this numerous times. One time I turned it in at 4:30 a.m. and the next morning, I just got an email from my teacher saying "Ok, no problem. It worked!". No late penalty, nothing. I know it's not the biggest lifesaver, but it definitely comes in handy when you really need it.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:46:43 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Scripter17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:16 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OH GOD.
LeonDekar ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:14:53 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If I tell it, everyone will know and it will break the whole point of the question, wouldn't it?
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 06:56:55 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 08:21:24 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:33:49 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well what about if I use my mouth to eat food so that I don't make a mess and I can eat more. You gonna tell me that ain't a loophole either?
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:37:44 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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someones1 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:43:26 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll give you the McDonalds one but the Walmart one isn't a loophole. It's outright theft.
FlappyFlex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:37 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay you got me. Theft, then a loophole for theft lol. I should of left that one out.
TrollerMauler12 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 19:01:35 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you take about a tablespoon natural crushed red pepper, and add about a teaspoon of water water with a pinch salt to it in a small bowl to microwave it for about 15-25 seconds on high, eating it will seriously boost metabolism, allowing for extremely fast breaking down of foods in the stomach, and very fast fat burning during excercise. It can even be used about 1-2 hours before sleep (Be sure after eating it before sleep, to not eat anything else, and also to drink plenty of water. If your urine is clear, that means you are drinking enough as the impurities as waste are diluted and won't show color.) The power of capsaicin, or the chemical that makes things spicy, is extremely effective for weight loss, if you can cope with some spiciness.
TylerLivingston ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:39:01 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The poophole loophole
_AnonOp ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 13:24:57 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your buddy, friend!
joesatmoes ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:49:51 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not your friend, bro
No_too_serious ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:38:48 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The poophole.
frosted1030 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 15:50:38 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You done really need to flush.
SnarkLobster ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:17:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In this life you can play by your own set of rules.
Rizhko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:35:36 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You actually cant because everything atom moves according to rules => future can be predicted => fate exists => you actually dont make a choice , its already said what that "move"will be
TinyFoxFairyGirl ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:27:20 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In Florida, if you have to renew or get a new license, and have food stamps, show them your card and the fee is greatly reduced
hesaidshesaid9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:46:31 on July 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is awesome!
tablepancake ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:05:22 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not telling
Stacia_Asuna ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:03 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you named an Eevee "Rainer" to force it into a Vaporeon, don't worry if you get another - just get a trash Eevee and name him "Pyro", evolve him (force Flareon), and you'll now be able to force another Vaporeon eeveelution!
doodah360 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 11:40:43 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: OP try's to sneakily find new ways to break the law and get away with it
andy10889 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:12:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The poophole.
whatthefunkmaster ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 11:52:46 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Lizards have diabetus
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 12:34:32 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ahh yes, shoplifting. Great loophole.
DongLaiCha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:41:12 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/shittyprotips