My friend was on What Not to Wear, and I was in the audience of people who were there to react when she came out from behind the curtain with her new look. She came out over and over again, but our cheering was never enthusiastic enough for the producers. After about 10 takes, we were screaming our heads off, totally hysterical, as if we'd just seen her rise from the dead. So that part was fake; I thought she just looked alright.
I'll never understand Staci's obsession with pointed toe shoes. Sure, they give you an elongated look, but they're horrifically uncomfortable. Why try to force your foot into a tapered, pointed shape like that? Nope.
I hated the fact that Staci basically just re-dressed every woman in a slightly different version of what she liked to wear herself.
Some of the clothes they had should have been re-purposed, and paired with nicer plain items. I watched them ditch a lot of really cute statement pieces that could have been bitchen with simple accessories.
Maybe this is another thing that is just faked for the show, but they also throw things away regardless of sentimentality or purpose. There was an episode I saw with a woman who was a huge Chicago Blackhawks fan and owned a couple jerseys (I think one was even signed by the player). Instead of letting her keep them to wear to games, Clinton and Staci threw them out then at the end, "compromised" by framing one of them.
Depends on the foot and the shoe, of course. Most of the pointy toe shoes are much longer than a typical shoe, so the toe box is fairly normal, and then it tapers after that.
All-in-all, if you have a narrow foot, even the ones which taper sooner won't feel bead. If you have a wide foot, don't even try!
peelit ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:22:17 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sob stories on singing shows - it's not the contestant's fault!
I made it through a few rounds for a well known singing show and they BEG you for sob stories. on my very first application form, I was asked about the most difficult moment in my life, what obstacles I'd overcome to be there, had I ever experienced bullying, etc.
They pretty much make you tell them a sob story. So I wrote all about my heartbreak when I ran out of coffee.
It absolutely is. They want people to get upset and share their innermost feelings for the camera, for good tv. I mean, there's tonnes of bad shit I've been through that'd knock the other son stories out of the water, but I'm not stupid enough to announce them on tv ๐ so I repeatedly wrote about coffee.
K3R3G3 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:22:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Could've killed two birds with one stone and sung:
[Sobbing] "The worst part of waking up...is nothing's in my cup!" [Breaks down in tears]
Most people have some knowledge that reality TV exploits people, but they really have no idea as to how much. For example with the singing shows, I know they have sob stories and they probably want to draw it out a little, but I didn't think they would dig that extensively for them.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:08:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Lol somewhere in this thread someone linked a bunch of commercials for that show actually. I was hoping for like a nice documentary about the shit that goes on behind the scenes, but this fictional show will do as well! Thanks for the recommendation!
wje100 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:54:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The worst part is sobs stories usually don't affect how good of a single you are. A bad singer with a heart wrenching sob story is still a bad singer.
Deto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but they know that people would get bored if they were just watching a parade of faces sing songs well.
Satsuz ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:37:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It feels like exploitation to me.
Vast swaths of the reality TV genre are built on the foundation of exploiting people. But yeah, this is a rather shitty instance.
It's emotional pandering for those who'd rather listen to some white kid's sob story than listen to actual music. Sucks because some of those shows had decent acts, just the sob stories were so annoying.
That is a different debate, here if both parties are fine with the situation then there is no exploitation. If one party isn't, in this case, they can walk out.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:31:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, lets say you had a kid that looked up to you a lot and you used this influence over them to get them to work in your sweatshop.
That would be exploitation, wouldn't you agree? But the kid isn't being forced to do anything.
In the case of the reality TV, these are all adults who can make their own choices. Its odd that the concept of personal responsibility is foreign to so many people on reddit.
[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 00:19:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:57:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I liked Chopped.
There's almost always 1 person whose like "I need it for my sick mother" or something and another thats just like "I just wanna win lol". And its never skewed towards either in my experience.
That's because there are certain shows that are just about the talent. Top Chef for example is really just about the food. There are contestants that look like jerks, but one guy who was kind of a jerk gave an interview on reddit, and he said that they don't make you say that stuff. Even if they cut it a certain way, they don't make you say anything, so the stupid shit you say is really from you. Not true for all shows though.
I honestly thought The Voice was going to fix that. It was originally advertised as being just about how good of a singer you were, and for a time it was. But it very quickly just became about the sob stories again.
Yeah, it took literally one season for me to stop caring who was competing on the voice. At that point I only cared about the judges interactions. The Voice shifts towards this more than any other competition because the judges actually have to have personality and fight for the contestants they want on their team. This makes for way more interesting conversations and interactions than we usually get, which is just judges saying if they loved or hated an act, and then some criticism.
Mezujo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:02:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you like Chopped, you'll probably also like Cutthroat Kitchen. Similar, there's a few sob stories but mostly it's "I wanna win."
They're all like this. Back in college u turned up for a Real World casting call. My sister had just died so they attacked that. Another girl was talking about how her best friend wanted to be in a relationship with her and started crying. We both got to the next level of interviews. I watched them "groom" her first, asking about her jewelry, pressing her for family details... when they got to me I was just like... naw... how do I get out of here?
I thought it looked like fun watching on tv... but I didn't really want to use all that personal stuff to get further along in the process.
I really hope it was a long, heartwretching story, that they are reading going 'yes, yes, perfect!' as it goes one and on, and THEN at the end, you pull the rug from behind them with the 'and thus I never got my coffee'.
My cousin tried to get on the voice. They told her that her voice was good enough to be on the show, but she wasn't the type of person they were looking for. The show is named the voice for crying out loud. The whole point of the show is so the judges can blindly judge you on your voice alone and she didn't make it to them for reasons other than her voice. It irritates me so much I stopped watching the show.
Would assume the voting is fake too, seeing as to how they're following the finalists with the cameras from the get-go. You can tell from the first mark.
The same holds true for every kind of music contest all over the globe, "Unpretty Rapstar" (Korean rap-show) was obviously fake as sin. The person who won the show was demolished in a rap-battle partway through the series, cried, etc. and the person who clearly won the rap battle was declared the loser, then entered the "sudden death loser round" and clearly performed better than the other people in it, and still lost. The whole thing was set up to make the biggest threat in the contest lose so the planned winner could look good.
If you watch X-Factor, you live in the same country as me - I'm British you know.
I'm aware X-Factor is phone-line votes, but Unpretty Rapstar is a combination of several kinds of votes, none of them monetary related. Internet, attendants at the show, judges, contestants, etc.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:33:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I know, but elsewhere it's called other things surely? I mean, we had Pop Idol, America made it "American Idol".
Either way, the only reason I said that was because he said "In my country" which to me implied he thought I was Korean because I have a Korean show as an example - when in reality I just used it because it's the most obvious example. He might not have meant that, but that's what I took from it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:58:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
X-Factor I believe is actually real, although it wasn't really before. Simon Cowell got in trouble for rigging the votes at some point, and I would hope that he learned his lesson now.
In the giant American Idol contract, the Producers are allowed to make up stories about your life. If you reveal that the stories are not true, they can sue you.
I hate how the world just keeps on spinning will you're there, hot water, sugar, and a huge part of your life is missing. I mean yes, you could put the sugar in the hot water and drink it but it's not it, it's just a sad reminder of what it is not. And you have to suck it up, and deal with the fact that the store is just way too far away for the will of leaving your house. You can always drink the tea but really, is it really what you want? and if you drink it, will you find it in your heart to replace the coffee you haven't got with it? you know you wont. Tea is not coffee. Hot water with sugar is not coffee, and it's cold outside, and you're just there, and nobody seems to give a shit. They say "hey I don't give a shit" or "who cares" or "that sucks dude but can you call an ambulance? I'm literally having a heart attack". Might as well shit on your cup and laugh while you drink it. It wouldn't make a difference. They have already shat on your life. And now it's too late to make up for the past... that trip to the supermaerket... "oh I have plenty and next time I swing by I'll get some more, no drama". How stupid of you. You knew it. You dug this hole of misery. Now get inside, and bury yourself in it.
TommyCX ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:34:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I worked on a popular show that is no longer around and they actively seek and put through the first phases of auditions odd quirky William hung ish people just to get them on camera in front of the judges to be turned down.
I disagree with this. I actually made it on a well known singing show and they didn't use a sob story for me. I even gave them one, my mom had cancer and lupus and was in remission. They still didn't use it.
I went to school with a girl who got through several rounds at American Idol, and the producers straight up told her "you have a beautiful voice, but you aren't marketable because your story is too boring." She asked for clarification, and they told her "you haven't struggled enough, and we're looking for underdog stories."
It didn't surprise me to hear that, to be quite honest. It seems like every last AI contestant has some obnoxious sob story, and people fall for it and vote for them even if the person's voice isn't even that great.
Wow, that's shocking! I definitely wasn't rejected after round 3 because of a lack of a sob story, the others in my category that got through were fantastic, much better than I. to get excluded on the basis of not having a sob story is horrible. Your poor friend
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get this, well I do. They do it because the audience ACTUALLY likes it. Real people get involved in this crap and eat it up. That's the scary part. I would vote for the contestant that tells the producers and judges to fuck right off every single week.
Mksiege ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:11:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They wouldn't make it into the actual show if they did.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But why do people love sheepish conformity? It's like the world is full of these mindless drones and I'm here, a sentient being watching in absolute disbelief.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:48:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because people (especially Americans) like rooting for the underdog and watching a person pull themselves up by the boot straps and get the success they "deserve". If you want to be a real popstar, audition through a record company.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:18:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the thing though, I'm American. But when does the authenticity of the "sob story" become void? Real people actually buy that shit still? After like 116 years of hollywood? They get up on stage with their story and some are bad, usually there's no proof of those. Then some are just like, okay? So you have low blood sugar, or had mono... Cool.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:04:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If it wasn't getting views and keeping viewers they wouldn't be doing it. Reality TV shows care about the bottom line, not about authenticity. When ratings and views go down they'll likely try something different.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know why but it's unsettling that people eat that shit up though. Knowing its total garb. Maybe some are fooled but surely not most that would be way scarier. It's just dramatic interperatation of reality which sums up to cringe worthy bad acting and a big stamp on their forehead that says "this is how a person acts, yes?" "Pay me more moneys to mimic Human please"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People like trashy TV. Look at how popular Jersey shore is.
Drama makes money, so TV shows leverage it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:43 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone is probably like, fake or something and they've been programmed to interact with me and my perception of them was foreseen by my overlord. Maybe I died and went to hell. Not sure, could be heaven because my A/C in my truck started working and it's ICCEEE COLD
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend made it a few rounds into American idol a few years ago. Phenomenal singer. Story wasn't sad enough though
Totally agree with this-was in a similar situation with a popular singing show and they were trying anything to drag that stuff out of me. They're interview also consisted of trying to make you cry or get angry...turned out they called the producer that interviewed me The Ball Buster. Yikes.
swyx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
did you feel not having a sob story hurt your chances?
As someone who considers them a pretty good singer and who has though about trying out for a singing show, I always felt I'd be too boring because I've never has some big tragedy or obstacle in my life.
This. I also auditioned for a well-known TV show, and they pretty much said that if I didn't have a sob story then I shouldn't even bother, no Matter how good I was.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I've filled out app forms for singing shows and they get REALLY personal. The Voice AU keeps it mostly professional but even then they ask you about your upbringing.
This !!! I saw a kid I knew from high school on I think it was American idol or the voice. One of those shows and he was crying saying how he was bullied by all the kids. This kid was a total fucking dick to everyone and I don't know where that shit came from!
I've heard about this with American Idol audition contestants, they allow terrible singers to go through and beg them for an even worse performance. This is exactly what happened with Mary Roach. Even though it seemed real, I have to applaud her for going all out on the crazy rant.
Yep during auditions its the worst. My best mates are twins orphaned at a young age. They got through auditions almost purely off their story (although they are very good singers) then kicked out in the next round because according to the judges "they arent ready"
I know a couple of young people (with a lot of talent) that got late into the audition process for The X-Factor, and they told us all about how the application forms had all of the stuff you mentioned, even including the questions "Have you ever been to jail?" and "Have you experienced any problems with racism in your life?" among others. Definitely tells you that the shows are built around sob stories to get viewers, even if they are talented as hell.
If I had any musical talent and made the decision to audition I can guarantee I would write a whole bunch of random sob stories just to see what happens.
Omg if I was FORCED to come up with a sob story, I would have totally come up with an epic, however bullshit, story that they might not even let on Network TV. "When I was five, my next door neighbor made me have sex with his dog. I feel so ashamed! cries I can't even LOOK at those fucking wishbone commercials without breaking down. His favorite thing to say right before he came was, "You have heard of Wishbones, right? I bet you WISH you were worthy of THAT bone inside of you!"" Then I would proceed to cry uncontrollably as I tried to find a pen, pencil, etc. to cut myself with.
A friend of mine in high school auditioned for a national singing show when we were 14. She refused to give her sob story, because she wanted her participation in the competition to be due to her talent or not at all.
I hate the sob stories, but the most reaching-for-a-tear story I've ever seen is actually fairly recent. On the current America's Got Talent season, there was this girl who was like 12 or 13. Her talent was singing, so you immediately know 1. she has a sob story and 2. she goes to the next round because the judges love singing kids. But her sob story was "I'm adopted." Not "I was abused, taken away, and adopted by a new family." Not "My mother died giving birth and my father died in Iraq so I was adopted." It was literally just that she was adopted as a baby. Like, ok? Oh... no?
Jesus Christ! If we were in the same room i'd hug you so tight all the pieces would come back together and you'd never feel sad about the coffee ever again.
The sob stories are part of the reason why I resent these shows, because it seems so explotative and forced. Everyone has some deep motivation, while most of them probably don't go deeper than "I like singing, found that I could sing well, so now I want to compete in this singing show" or "I wanna be famous, yo".
I always thought it was the contestants doing this though, because they know those are the ones to get air time. Guess I was wrong.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:45:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My boss threatened to fire me for putting my needs to making coffee as soon as I come in instead of calling the managers to see what they need. Bitch, I'm the first one in at 6am.
Yeah, I always found it strangely stupid how they just so happen to have video of some auditioners in their hometown with them doing a voiceover telling their sob story.
This is the thing that always bothered me about Chopped. It's like "Oh come on, how can every person be inspired to cook because their family member died, or they went through some personal trauma that drove them to be a chef?"
Even the trash talk on the show is half-assed, you can tell they were forced to say it. They're like "yeahhh, James is going dowwnn, I'm totally gonna win this...." with the most unenthusiastic face ever.
G8kpr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:33:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone on Reddit once posted that they got pretty far in preliminaries for a cooking show (Masterchef possibly?), they said that the judges liked their dish over the person's next to them, but the other person had a better "down and out" type story (possibly single mother?) and that it would do better for TV and she got chosen and he was let go.
You can predict the winner of almost any episode of Chopped by watching the chef's stories at the beginning. Whoever has a sob story almost always wins.
I hate how they always do that! It's why I vastly prefer the Japanese version of Ninja Warrior:
American Ninja Warrior: "Here's Paul Smith, he's a 34 year old teacher of special ed students and single father to his horribly disfigured daughter. After losing everything in a house fire, he had to work 4 jobs while also volunteering at a non-kill animal shelter..."
Japanese Ninja Warrior: "This is 34 year out Taka, he works in construction."
When I used to watch singing competitions or dance competitions like So You Can Dance I noticed it got more and more sob story heavy. It got to the point where I just fast forwarded to the performance then to the critique.
I can't watch any shows like that anymore. Every show is 75% sob story interviews, 15% actual performances, 10% judges gushing over the contestants (often relating to the sob story, often attempting to be funny)
Chelsea is actually one of my favorites, mostly because she seems like she has her shit together more than the others. But it does seem like the only thing "bad" in her life is Adam, and well, that's gotta be bullshit because teenage motherhood must be harder than she puts off. I think of her as the least trashy, but of course I only see what airs.
squeel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:41 on September 19, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She didn't graduate high school, it took her years to get her ged and her further education is a 9 month beauty school. She works sometimes and her dad paid her bills while she did all of that. She's not trashy but your facts are wrong
[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 00:58:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Taking responsibility for your mistakes and raising your child instead of giving them up or putting them on the parents does not sound trashy to me.
Out of all the girls, Chelsea is the one who is doing best for herself. A fee of the other moms on teen mom and teen mom 2 are just train wreck. Chelsea is not.
squeel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:05 on September 19, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
'some help' is a major understatement. he paid her bills while she kept getting fucked by Adam (figuratively and literally) and took years to take/pass her GED test
eu01 ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 01:28:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How does getting pregnant and keeping it make you trash? I thought that made you not a murderer... smh
Okay I rarely leave my subreddit /r/teenmom but I saw your comment and now I have to say PLEEEEEEASE come to /r/teenmom, we'd love if you did an AMA!! <3
I stood in line behind one of the girls in Chattanooga. Had people holding little hand held cameras that looked like cell phones. There was a camera in the cart looking at me. Gosh I hope I'm not on that show.
Seems like a boring show if they show the people in Walmart looking around. Also makes the stereotype of Walmart legit.
What do you mean "real people"? They pick real pregnant teens. How do you fake that?
cgprats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actors, not real instances of this
jcpg33 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:12:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A family friend was on one of those shows and says that as a reward for causing drama and shit they would get money and toys for there children and if they didn't they got cut off. total and complete extortion bullshit
My aunt and uncle were on "Love It Or List It" they had them record both endings and the network chose which one they thought was best. They are still in the house and they love it, but the show says they listed it.
I know someone who was on that show when it was in Raleigh. Here's how the show works, according to what they told me:
1. As mentioned, nobody wants to list their house- they just want a free renovation and to be on TV. However...
2. ...the show only pays for 50% of the work they do on your house, and the producers do what they want for TV and don't really respect the homeowners' wishes.
3. They shoot a bunch of episodes in one market at a time, so they use one set of contractors for all of the homes. If they get behind on the work on a given home, they pretend that the work is done so they can wrap on the episode, then they take the crew with them to the next house. You then have to live in an unfinished renovation until the whole set of episodes is finished and the crew can get back to you. This can be months or not at all.
It has been an awful experience for many in this market, but the contract is so immensely in the favor of the production company, the homeowners don't really have any reasonable recourse to get things finished or fixed in the cases stuff was done wrong.
As opposed to hiring your own contractors and doing the actual renovations you want.
I could redo my kitchen for about 4k, but I bet the show could easily do a 10K remodel. Then I'm out 5k and didn't even get to choose what I wanted (though of course there's the chance I really love it and it's extra fancy and I got a deal, but that's a risk)
niuguy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:59:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but 1) most people don't. and 2) It's not that kind of show. :) Look, I hate the show, but that show wouldn't work as a DIY show. 70k+ worth of remodeling is, by itself, a couple show's worth of content. Plus there is the whole other side where they shop for homes.
G8kpr ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 09:41:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and the producers do what they want for TV and don't really respect the homeowners' wishes
Reminds me of an ex-coworker who was on a lower budget, Canadian version of "Trading Spaces". Where he and his wife swapped with her friends. He didn't want anything to do with it, but did it anyways to please her.
He said producers were dicks, but camera crew seemed nice. At one point he had just finished painting a bookshelf.
producer says "can you put some of the stuff back on the shelf (knick knacks and what not) so we can get some shots.
co-worker says "I just painted it, wait until it's dry"
producer: "It's fine, we need the shot so we can move on"
co-worker "I'm not putting her stuff on a wet bookshelf and ruining them
producer: "don't worry about it, we're on a tight schedule, let's get the shot and move on to the next room
co-worker "go fuck yourself, I'm not doing it" and he simply walked away. They got the shot later when the bookshelf was fully dried.
He (my co-worker) also helped himself to beers in his friend's fridge, which freaked out the producer "we can't film you drinking beer!!!"
He said "then uh, don't film me". Lol.. he truely didn't give a fuck. He said that he spoke with the camera guys, and one said that their show is the "break up" show, because they have seen so many couples just lose their shit at each other, one time a few of the production crew had to run after a husband, chase him down and try to calm him down and bring him back to the taping, which took well over an hour to get him to come back after he and his wife had a huge argument over something.
Yup. The one producer is registered as a contractor on Canada, but not in the US! So they have to hire contractors from wherever they are while in Canada they have their own contracting company. My mom used to work for the company that produces the show and it was hell for her.
I saw David Visintin at Pullen park with his kid. I couldn't stop looking at him. I wanted to go up and tell him that the only reason i recognized his stupid bald head was because my wife tortures me with hgtv.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:27:49 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i read about this being ahuge issue in raleigh, that one of them actually was filing a lawsuit related to this over the unfinished/TERRIBLE contractor work and that the contractors actually many times were not even legally allowed to work in the area or whatever idk this is really vague b/c i can't remember if this was in Raleigh or in some other state just remember readingabout it
I'm definitely not slow lol. It's just something I never thought to question. The same could be said about religious people and their god :p
I had the cookies and milk laid out in my dorm room, had a little xmas tree setup, no Santa. I ended up asking what I did wrong on Yahoo Answers, people thought I was fucking with them
Yes, I've gotten into so many arguments about shows like Pawn Stars and Lizard Lick whatever that I literally don't even attempt to explain how fake the shows are to people who were amazed at something that happened on it.
My hand to God. One of my friends was a re-enactor on one of the true-crime shows a couple years back, and he got pegged in public as Da Killa and was detained until he could prove his actual identity and explain the story.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:58:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, on the bright side, it must be nice to be recognized for your work...... shrug
Seriously, how can there be people in this day and age who believe what they see on TV?
I suspected it in the drama riddled shows but this one actually kind of surprised me. I remember the show trading spaces was not scripted because there was so many times you could tell the people legit hated there rooms. I remember one lady cried she hated it so much. Lol for you who don't know or remember the show, it was you traded rooms with your neighbor for a day and a designer would help and tell you what to do and gimme you homework assignments. It was funny because sometimes you would get these designers come in and try to make a piece of art as someone's living room, or the one neighbor put in so much work and makes there neighbors house great, and they go home and there room is a piece of shit lol
As long as Hildy wasn't redoing your house, you were okay. Maybe it wouldn't be great, but it would be fixable. If Hildy showed up, you were getting hay glued to your walls or all your furniture nailed to the ceiling.
Most people on House Hunters have already picked out their house before being given their three choices.
Jmble ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:41:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's all. My friends were talking to their realtor about being on the show. They were trying to cast them as a wife who likes old houses and a husband who is too tall for them. They said they wouldn't accept them until they closed on a house first. Nothing ever came of it though.
even weirder because it's so awkward to watch them talk about it anyway, it usually sounds so forced like the network told them to up the ante, and despite this, they still apparently have bad takes for both decisions.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
seriously...next ill hear that even santa isnt real or something
caspy7 ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 23:13:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My suspicions about their deceptions were confirmed when I read about the lawsuit against them.
The competitors are actors, the promises at the beginning of the show (which always get broken) were never in the budget nor planned, the houses they look at are frequently not on the market and they may leave your house "irreparably damaged" like those people suing. The whole thing is a sham like House Hunters.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:56:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All those "choice" based house shows are all a sham. The House Hunters empire of like 7-8 shows now, all of them actually require people appearing on it to have already signed on the dotted line for the property they end up "choosing" before they even consider shooting an ep. Other properties they pretend to consider are sometimes what's on the market and sometimes they just source similar properties from the participants' friends. Happened to an aquaintance here in Vancouver, their friend was on the show and used the aquaintance's condo as a fake potential choice.
'House Hunters' is just as fake. The house is bought before the show is even taped. They just revisit two others they didn't like, and make bitchy comments about the color schemes and tile.
Knowing about the scam but still watch them all, I pick the one where the contents of a house looks like the contents they would have for instance if they have a baby if one is already outfitted with a crib and the others aren't i will guess that one.
I just found a new show , well it's in its second season but it's new to me, called zombie house flippers and that one seems to have the worst acting of any of the shows on any of the networks.
It seems like there's always something structural that prevents the homeowners from getting what they really want, and that the structural things should have been found in the planning stage rather than during construction. How'd what they got match what they actually wanted?
Oh yeah, and usually people want six extra bedrooms and a hot tub in their kitchen, but they settle for heated floors in the basement bathroom.
The episode they were on, there wasn't much stopping them from getting what they wanted. They wanted a new kitchen and dining room as well as a new basement floor. But there was some complication in the kitchen that would cost more so they just didn't do the basement. But to compensate for the lack of structural problems, the network wanted my aunt and uncle to fight with each other over decisions. But they said "absolutely not, that's not who we are." So the episode may have a came out a little bit more "real".
g3istbot ยท 106 points ยท Posted at 23:15:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I always assumed those petty arguments you see on the show were fabricated.
You'll have something like where the wife absolutely needs to have a sun room to do Yoga in, and the husband must have a finished basement. The houses they always show have one or the other, and either the wife or the husband will make some little quip suggesting that the wants of the other don't matter.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:31:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The best episode was the "Male of honor-zilla," where the Male of honor (the bride's gay best friend) was a complete asshole the whole episode because it was "his day to shine." He wanted the perfect venue, the perfect food and most of all, the perfect outfit. He was going to strut down the aisle IN FRONT of the bride so that everyone could see him.
The whole episode was over the top I figured it absolutely had to be fake. I couldn't imagine anyone acting like that.
Huttj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:29:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I figured it was fabricated when the husband and wife are NEVER on the same page regarding staying or listing. There is ALWAYS one that wants to move and one that wants to stay. Always.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:04:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Their "complications" are bullshit. "Well we have to move the fuse box so we can run pipes for the dish washer and new sink placement. It'll be an extra 5 grand." Or maybe move the fucking dish washer? Wtf.
Somehow the part of the house that they have to not do after all because the find shoddy wiring or termite damage or whatever never gets demolished on demolishion day.
I would love to be on that show. I have strong opinions on building materials and whatnot, and my husband has strong opinions on design. We could have a good fake-ish argument. Also, I love that show far too much.
It's extremely obviously staged that a sudden "problem" crops up, just in time for Hillary to look concerned and cut to commercial. Problems appear for the drama.
Are you serious? You've obviously never actually hired anyone and had hundreds, even thousands, of people apply for the job. You are desperately looking for reasons to disqualify people, and being a nasty bitch on a reality show is a good enough reason.
Don't act like a cunt on TV. You're an idiot if you don't realise there can be repercussions.
Oh one hand it'd be fucking hilarious to coordinate a meltdown with your wife. "Hey honey, just chuck this plate at my head and then say something about my mother."
But on the other hand, yeah I wouldn't want cable subscribers to think my wife was a crazy asshole.
Yeah there's always stuff that a basic inspection would have found but they have to make it "suspenseful" so hey, there's suddenly asbestos everywhere.
I have a heated floor in my basement bathroom that the previous owners conveniently put in when they finished the basement. Haven't used it once because no one showers or shits down there. I think features like this are good for contractors to push because they sound awesome at first but realistically, barely get used
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:06:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Meh. I have heated flooring that I use in the winter. It's a pretty nice little feature that didn't really cost me all that much. I could live with out it for sure...but I'm happy I went with it.
Mksiege ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:22:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe the previous owners were into BDSM and needed a quiet space that wasn't cold?
No, they had a contractor design the basement and they pretty much went with every upgrade he suggested. Of course it all sounds great at first and he's just doing his job upselling but I wouldn't have sprung for that option.
I'm an engineer and I have worked in several home construction projects.
Structurals are a part of the preliminary design for every home. Nothing gets built or is subject to a major remodel without a structural engineer signing off on it.
The engineering design is often constrained by the desire to use cheap materials or cheap methods of construction.
Spans of 2x12 softwood lumber are incredibly cheap to both purchase and install; however, they lack stability in two dimensions which limits the length of the span as they are prone to warping and twisting over long distances. As a result, bulkheads and point loads end up being built everywhere to accomodate the large but short structural beams.
LVL beams are more expensive, but are more stable. These can be shallower and longer than plain lumber structurals.
Steel I-beams are the best but they're rare outside of foundations and basements. Use in upper levels is largely limited to custom and executive homes.
Pretty much any structural issue can be resolved with a bit of work, but it will cause the cost of the project to skyrocket. In order to replace or move a structural element, a temporary load bearing element has to be built to carry the weight that is currently being carried by the load bearing element that is being altered. This involves a lot of work and a lot of money that would cause most interested parties to simply say "well fuck that". This is simply terrible from a TV optics perspective and runs contrary to the narrative that these home redesign shows are telling, so they avoid it like the plague.
Furthermore, the municipality should have the original building designs on file as well as any building permits that were drawn. If the drawings can't be found, or the building doesn't match the drawing, only several logical outcomes exist:
Someone made structural changes without obtaining a building permit and/or engineered drawings.
Someone built something wrong and it was missed by an inspector.
The show producers didn't bother to do their homework.
The show producers knew about it, but simply wanted to make it look like it was discovered during construction to hype things up.
Im hell late here. I am a civil engineer. Out of uni i worked for a hardware store. We (i) did deliveries for a telivision show we have her is australia. A construction show and i can bouch that so mamy standards were not adhered to. A lot of places need to be re done once filming wraps, before the auction. I was there for 3 seasons and it got worse each season.
This is the least surprising revelation. That show is so obviously fake, I always take everything about it with a grain of salt. Oh, sure, you didn't know beforehand that the wiring and the insulation were crap, riiiight.
To be fair, a lot of these people live in old houses, and often the person who sold them the house either doesn't know the structure is crap or intentionally didn't tell them. I mean, it's shifty that ALL of the houses have something really important wrong, but I don't think it's unreasonable to believe at least some of these people didn't already know there was something behind the walls that was wrong in their 100 year old house.
I used to live in a 90 year old house, there was some obvious problems and I wouldn't be surprised if we'd been on a show like that and they told us there was dry rot and a family of owls living in the walls.
widmv84 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:25:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There was an episode with this family in an easily 100+ year old home, and something was wrong with the main drain line. Wife looks at it, looks at husband, and shrugs. "Who would know if we don't fix it?"
Scripted or not, that was seriously shitty. It was some environmental impact that would have become a huge problem if they didn't fix it.
In any real estate show, the home has to go through inspection. I'm certain that the issues are identified early on, and are "discovered" during the renovation and presented as setbacks.
Plus all the walking and talking shots. And at the end when they're discussing their decision and the camera is looking at them from behind a bush like they're eavesdropping every time.
007meow ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:40:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like I could fill an entire thread's worth of AMA questions for your Aunt and Uncle.
Can you ask them if Hillary/David were actually present for a lot of it? I saw that the show got sued recently for having incredibly shoddy workmanship and that the hosts weren't even there for anything other than little segments that they filmed specifically for the show.
Can confirm. They also show you houses that are not for sale and possibly pick the ending where you "choose" the not for sale house.
Source: Have family friends that were shown to have "listed it" for a not for sale house, know the owners of this house still live there, and my family friends are still in their house.
007meow ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:48:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eric Emerita, who on the show was the contractor in charge of the work on their Raleigh, North Carolina, home was actually an actor and not a licensed contractor.
I have a friend who used to do some work for HGTV. She said they were both really nice, but David more so. Hilary actually kind of screwed him over by asking for way too much money to come back to the show...so they just replaced both of them.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:52:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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GotHamm ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:54:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My uncle's brother was on it too and he kept his house too! He said he would list it but we all knew there was no way he would sell it.
LOL same with friends of mine here in Toronto. Plus, all of the home buying shows, the buyers already bought their house and the whole thing is just for show. They show three houses, one being the buyers already purchased home and the other two are usually not even listed. Then the client "buys" the house they liked the most.
I was just talking to someone who was on the show. SZme exact story. They filmed both answers and aired that they left the house even though they kept it.
Nicbudd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:40:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This makes so much sense. I was watching an episode and the wife was repeatedly saying "List it", but when she saw the house renovated, she immediately changed her mind.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:41:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the cat's out of the bag now that the show is being sued by a couple who claim their home was ruined.
I actually found out that some of the House Hunters episodes they know which house they will pick ahead of time before they even shoot and make them pretend to truly consider some of the other options after they buy one.
"Love it or list it" always seemed the most scripted to me, mostly because every episode has the same format.
The remodel always asks for "a miracle", then they start digging and something comes up "unexpected" and the contractor that the lady get snippy with each other, then one of the couple says "Why did she say she could build the Taj Mahal in our rec room if she couldn't deliver??!!"
Then they go house hunting and the first two houses are ridiculous one way or another and even the "List it" person in the couple says "He just doesn't get us AT ALL!!"
After each segment, the couple has a "candid" moment out on the street where we're "eavesdropping" in their conversation.
Then at the end, the remodel works out better than expected and the realtor guy pulls the perfect house out of his ass at the last minute and now they need to make a serious decision.
Most of those shows I can suspend disbelief to see what kinds of houses they're looking at or whatnot, but that show is just total crap.
On the HGTV vibe, had friends get approached to do house hunters...after they'd moved into a house. So you go see two houses you won't buy and the home you're already living in and pretend to pick the one you already bought.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:33:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That explains the pattern I noticed. I'd probably say 8/10 episodes end with the husband getting his way as established in the beginning of the episode. As a married man with several married friends, I know there's no way it would happen like that, that often.
llbean ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:39:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nooooo no no no no no. I will erase this from my mind like every other terrible disgusting story on reddit.
That's obviously the most scripted show on HGTV, possibly even more fake than the tan on the Flip or Flop girl.
But if someone ever tells me that Property Brothers is all fake, my soul will be crushed. If I were to list my 3 favorite TV shows of all time, it would be that, Buying & Selling and Brother vs Brother.
every episode features the camera crew "overhearing" the homeowners argument/discussion as they walk down the block. its soo disgustingly fake and the fact that they do it in every episode is worse.
My friend's house in Italy was on house hunters international. It was not at all for sale and the woman trashed all of his mom's interior design choices.
What was their huge, hidden issue that cancelled a must-have piece of their renovation? And was it real, or made up?
ALYXZYR ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:10:08 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
a little late to the party but I just went to google "Love It or List It" because I had never heard of the show and the first thing to come up was an article about this reddit thread lol
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:11:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see a big billboard of David way north of the city. I was pretty surprised he was up in the Creemore area. Thought he way more suburban vaughan area.
So relieved! I heart Kristy and Phil (the British version).
[deleted] ยท 2238 points ยท Posted at 15:07:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
My cousin was on a Toronto dating show called Matchmaker many years ago. She said it was completely scripted and she met her "blind date" before filming so the producers could go over the script with them. They were given a list of ridiculous and racy questions to ask each other and encouraged to make out if they actually liked each other or to cause a scene and be dramatic if they didn't really click.
He's actually a good TV and radio host. He knows how to interact and be charismatic with the people he's talking to. It looks easy but if you've ever seen anyone who isn't talented at doing interviews or hosting it is awkward and embarrassing.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:57:03 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So by my down votes and replies to my comments it seems no one picked up on my community reference. I may have been too subtle or might be remembering it completely wrong. Sorry all.
Tiekal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:34:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure he is a robot.
At one point it seemed he was working 24 hours a day between different media outlets.
[deleted] ยท 317 points ยท Posted at 17:52:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A friend was on a few episodes of the short-lived, "real-world" type show called "The Lofters" in Toronto (ca. 2001 or 2002). The friend was the love interest of one of the actual lofters. At a party on set (filmed, part of the show), the friend got drunk and "handsy." After, the entire group had a debriefing about his creepiness. All of this was a major "arc" of the couple of episodes, and all of it was on camera. Finally, the friend was dumped at the end of the episode (specifically in reference to the party creepiness). For my friend- group, it was such a cringey, awkward time. Everyone saw it on TV. No one really talked about it. It was a bad time.
[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 23:08:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A guy and a girl I went to high school with made out on a shitty Comedy Network show in Toronto called "Keys to the VIP." She acted like she didn't know him and he picked her up, which was the goal of the show.
doubbg ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:05:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nooooooo. I used to love that show. D-bags competing to pick up girls. It was hilarious.
Jennifer Hedger, who was also on season 1, is a co-host for TSNs Sport Centre. My husband watches that show religiously and I've always thought it was neat that I recognized her from reality tv.
I also just found out that Mathieu Chantelois, also from season 1, is the executive director of Toronto Pride. Something I discovered today because I was watching him be interviewed about this whole Black Lives Matter sit-in that happened yesterday during the Pride parade.
He's THAT Mathieu?! Wow. Learned something new today.
akesh45 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:06:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is he actually cringey?
[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 21:01:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At the time, he'd done a few awkward things (in HS), but this was more due to inexperience than any actual character issue. Iirc, the thing he did was pretty benign ("handsy" is pretty accurate, though I might temper this with "over-familiar"), but in the show it was made out to be a big, dramatic deal. At the end, when he was broken up with on camera, he was graceful, mature, and poised.
The way it was shot, though showing real moments of real events, really embellished the situation for dramatic effect. They really upped the creepiness factor, in order to "narrativize" the events of the show.
Oh man, the Lofters was such and interesting show. I can't remember this specific instance buuuuuut your friend is probably happy about that anyways. I think it's cool many of the Lofters have enjoyed continued success on Canadian tv!
OH, MY GOSH! I used to love that show! I was only 12 or 13 at the time but that type of "early '20s" culture fascinated me. I liked Sandy because of the pink streaks in her hair, ha ha! Preteen me thought it was so bad-ass. And I thought Annie was gorgeous! It's crazy to see where some of them ended up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U8TV:_The_Lofters
A high school teacher of mine was on one of the Toronto episodes of Blind Date. They edited the episode so much just to make him look like a tool. He brought the tape into class to point out that the dinner conversation was all fabricated - you could see different things on the table every time. I notice this in every reality show since. Subtle hints that situations are all pieced together
My friends buddy was also on this. He's a "rapper" and a pretty big personality, but even the crazy shit he was saying was so not him. He said they pushed them to act over the top on their date.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:01:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I misread "Toronto" as "Tarantino" and thought that this story was going in a totally different direction.
What if the people actually do end up liking each other and want to date? Do the people on dating shows have sex? I'd like to know more about what's scripted and not in dating "reality" shows.
My daughter and her boyfriend were on Divorce court. They were not married, and the shows producers helped them tailor their story (which was completely made up) to be more interesting. They are now married and since they've already been "divorced", it should last forever.
My cousin was on there woth her ex husband. One of the things they were arguing over was a car he left in her trailer's driveway.
In reality, they were getting along just fine but just wanted the limo ride and cash for appearing. I was pretty young so I don't remember all the details, but all I remember is flipping through the channela with my dad and backtracking when I saw her face and name. We watched in silent horror for a minute when my dad asked me not share this with anyone but I was already on the phone with my best friend telling her to put on channel 5.
Everything on Pawn Stars is scripted too. They bought a Jeep from my friend and he was even told when and how to smile or smirk when giving the interview.
Resonant pricing.. Is that when you get it for a song?
fotowca ยท 189 points ยท Posted at 21:25:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Armed guard at the door. I stopped by on a Vegas trip and there was a serious looking dude in body armor and a glock on his hip at the door. They don't show him on TV.
I can't vouch for the veracity of the article, but this article claims they have a separate set due to some legal reason.
fotowca ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:20:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hadn't heard that, though little would surprise me. I stopped by with my old man one trip to Vegas as he watches the show. Didn't see any of the show personalities there though.
Typed01 ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 18:44:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went there because I was in Vegas and had to see it because I loved the show. There was nothing in there. It was all suveneers and trinkets. Nothing cool. There was a a couple panting and a couple books wrapped in plastic wrap I recognized. It was really lame. Really really lame. Like they put a bunch of stuff out to shoot the show. There was just nothing in the shop to buy. Nothing like the show. Biggest let down ever.
That exactly describes my visit to Antique Archaeology from American Pickers. I drove 4 hours for THIS?! A glorified gift shop, overly packed with people?
Typed01 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:07:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Yeah! And I drove past the pawn shop 2 times prior and the line was long so I waited until night and took a taxi over because I was drunk. No line later. I rode in the taxi with this huge drink and walked back to the strip with the drink. I crossed a street and almost walked into a cop car stopped at the stop sign. That was infinitely better than the pawn shop - the cop not caring what the incoming money does.
Edit: don't know how this gets negative rep.
Decyde ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:27:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, even their website is run down as fuck now with what's on there.
It's funny how everything just has a twice what it's worth value and then a button that says make an offer.
Same thing with Hardcore Pawn. Went to their store in Detroit on the way to school, had all trash.
You know how in the intro of the show, Les says "E-E-E-Everything's Negotiable"? Well the DVD prices were in fact not negotiable. $4 for Return of the King on DVD is a fuckin' rip off.
They do. I was there during filming once. Everything is scripted. Everything.
37214 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:06:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Biggest let down ever?
Typed01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:18 on July 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. Because I was so excited. Would be like if I bought a viper but it drove like a leaf and couldn't return it. Not my worst lay was as bad as visiting the pawn shop.
That doesn't make sense... They don't film while tourists are walking in. Any time they are filming they only have extras looking around. they have enough people sending in applications to bring their item onto the show that they wouldn't need to just hand things to people...
Was season 2. I imagine a lot has changed since then. I'll have to ask him about it again. I shoe rented the story a little bit. He was there and they asked him if he wanted to be on the show. Im sure he had to sit around and wait for a while or maybe even come back. But needless to say he sold them a guitar he didn't own.
But Pawn Stars isnt even filmed in the Actual Gold and Silver Pawn shop in vegas, its filmed on a set made to look like it... so idk what to make of your friend
The latter. IIRC they put a huge price on it so whenever people called they could reverse troll them, eg "yeah we have battletoads, that'll be $5000. when can you pick it up?"
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:57:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But then the assholes sorta win don't they? If not you can totally get me good and buy some of my games for $5000 dollars. It'd be the prank of the century!
My local GameStop actually ordered a copy of battletoads and priced it 10k because of so many copy cat prank calls, so wouldn't be surprise me if they bought a copy for the same reason
As a game, not really. I remember renting it when I was 3 or 4 years old. The first few levels are doable, then it goes from 1 - 100 in difficulty. I don't think there was anyone who could play this game without rage quitting, because if you lost all your lives you had to start from the very beginning, and many parts of that game are pure bullshit. I only know that because now you can play it with an emulator and use state saves.
addysol ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:24:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dammit. I've got a working cartridge just sitting there. But yeah fuck that stupid jetski thingy level
"Rigged" doesn't apply to TV, TV lies pathologically in every programme, it simply cannot help itself. Real life is dull, me getting up and going to work is an hour, but we edit it down to a few seconds. News programmes make editorial choices. A local roving reporter admitted to having bought bunches of flowers to tie to railings to "make" a shot. All of TV is lies, if it's on screen it's because of a decision someone made for it to be on screen.
That owes more than a passing nod to this which was a running joke done by radio/TV personality Iain Lee to some shitty late night phone in channel several years ago.
A local retro game store has a sealed and graded copy of Battletoads in a frame above the counter. Below it is a sign that says "Yes, we have Battletoads."
They're pretty cool about it too. It's for sale for around $200.
Eh, pretty much anyone who sells something to a pawn shop is doing that. Not that bad usually, but IIRC the best price you get from a pawn shop is something like 1/3 the price the shop thinks they can sell it at.
But seriously, having visited many pawn shops, shit can sit there for a long time. They will do anything but take a loss to get that shit out the door if it's been too long - usually close to a year.
the risk is the relative value of his floor space. Fat bald man has one of the most well known and respected shops in the world, anything that sits on his floor for more than a few days is costing him money when he could have anything else there that would sell in a heartbeat
I have a buddy who frames stuff, let me just give
Him a call and hopefully we can make a deal :)
mattXIX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know you're joking but a lot of times a pawn shop will just undercut prices so they don't take a big hit on the off chance the item is stolen or worth far less by the time it comes out for sale.
hexydes ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:38:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was probably a valid argument in 1995 and before; ever since the Internet though, it's stupid-easy to just list it on eBay or Amazon, and at least make your original investment back. Any kid that used to collect baseball cards will see how NOT valuable their collection probably is.
Iorith ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:54:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pawn shops don't market to that type of person. They market to the people who need the money right now. The people who need the money to turn their electricity on, or who are 3 months behind on rent.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:45:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The point is, any pawn shop with half a brain, will buy the shit from the down on his luck guy for 1/3 the selling point and list it online for realistic value. So now the don't have to worry as much about the origin of the items. I don't see how your comment, however true, at all related to the one you replied to.
What are we counting as "fair market value"? Usually they buy it for less than one could get in a private deal and sell it for more than one would pay in a private deal.
Fair market would be what it could be sold for at auction. Theres a lot of factors that go Into the price a pawn broker will give a person. As a rule of thumb I use the rule of thirds, as it relates to their signage with the 3 balls. Every shop is different and every person is different as well as the things trying to be hocked. They dont use a price grid system but more of a gut instinct and try to squeeze every dollar they can. Hope this helps.
The fair market price is the price one can reasonably expect to get on the market. Which the pawn shops will pay less than and charge more than in exchange for convenience.
I dont frequent these places because I know how they will low ball a person on price because thry know they person trying to sell has no other options for cash. I had to sell a bass amp once for car parts, I actually got a great deal on it surprisingly, maybe 1/4 under retail. I knew a guy who ran one for a few years but the place went nder as he was fencing stolen goods. Lol the guys nick name was crook, with a name like that I suspect it was only a matter of time. However I was friends with one of his employees from outside his business, we grew up near each other, and these were the systems they tried to go by with the exception of trying to squeeze every dollar out of the seller they possibly could.
Why doesnt anybody? I prefer ebay. Most of the stuff they have at pawn shops I dont want or need. A person can have only so many diamond rings and power tools. Plus a diamond ring is far cheaper in a pawn shop if you know exactly what your looking for as compaired to a jewler. A jewler is going to have a much better selection of stones, sets, setting, sizes ect. But I guarantee if you find a perfect match between to rings the pawn shop will be cheaper hands down as they buy according to weight. Jewlers sell acording to the time and artisinal expertise.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:58:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went to the Pawn Stars shop during the height of the show. There was like an hour long wait to get in, but a guy was canvassing the line saying "yo, if you're selling something, don't wait in line." I happened to have a piece of consumer electronics new in the box that I had gotten for free at the conference I was at in Vegas, so I was like "fuck it, I don't even think that will fit in my luggage anyway" so I grabbed it out of my trunk, went up, walked in and sold it. The guy looked at the item (new in box), looked on eBay, and offered me just a little low than what it was going for on eBay, used. I was like "yeah sounds good" and sold it. I actually got more than I expected (it was an $100 thing and I got like $44).
Really depends on the item, how reliably they think they can get a certain amount for it, and how quickly it'll sell.
If you walk in with something they know they can turn around really quickly at a certain price, and you're a decent negotiator, you could probably get most of the value of it. Like junk silver for example.
Well, the idea is that you are supposed to retrieve your item rather than letting it go for sale. It's a short-term loan at lousy rates secured by an asset worth several times what the loan was.
I mean, you don't pawn something unless you are desperate or the thing is stolen.
The thing is though that people aren't selling something like Elvis' guitar at pawn shops for 1/3rd the price like in the show. They are selling their laptop or something because they need money fast for whatever reason.
I don't think most people understand the purpose of a pawn shop. Most of the time people pawn or sell stuff because they really need the money RIGHT AWAY, or they don't want to go through the hassle of maybe getting the market value of it.
The worst thing is that they completely ruined a bad-ass '73 CJ.
We put a lot of sweat and beers into restoring it and they basically turned it into "Pimp my Jeep"...
Well it is hard now and days to find people to pay top dollar for something especially if you have that odd rare item, it might take years to find the right buying and you have to search too so sometimes it's best to sell it too the 1st decent offer you can get as long as it not as a loss of course
Isord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure most pawn shop business is on actual pawning anyways, not straight up sales.
A lot of these places work on desperation. You need the 50 you can get for your TV for the electric bill....they count on you defaulting and not bring able to pay back. So they get the 30 you were able to give over 2 months AND they sell your TV for 100.
cursh14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They 100% will do that in real life. Trust me, I've gone to flea markets my entire life. Sometimes you can't believe the prices (on both ends of the spectrum).
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All of the prices are agreed upon beforehand. I'm sure that the people who are selling the stuff are real are real but they are not just spontaneously losing $10,000 on something that they thought they were going to get for a lot more. It's all planned beforehand.
Kdj87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like nobody on here has ever actually seen Pawn Stars. The prices they give are usually a little better than that. I'm not saying it's real, but everyone heavily exaggerates how little Rick gives
During my visit to Vegas, me and my buddy went to the Pawn Stars' shop to see a sale in action.
We walked in on a recording session. Here's how it looked:
A man walks in with a set of signed Air Jordans. Chum Lee greets him. Chum tells him he needs to "call an expert, who should arrive in half an hour".
Two minutes later, a man walks out of the back. He inspects the pair and says it's worth $200. Chum offers the guy fifty bucks for it. The man is told to say (and I quote) "I want to sell them, but that price is too low."
Chum offers sixty. The man is told to take the offer. He takes the offer. Successful sale?
The real sale actually begins. The cams are moved to a different star while Chum gives the guy an actual estimate.
Honestly that's not too bad. At least it's a real person who's trying to sell something. The cool part about the show for me was always just the cool stuff and seeing rundown items get refinished.
Chumley is the worst doing his scripted "I know this random information about this item". I'm always like... you don't know that. You had someone hand you that info two minutes ago.
Calkky ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:45:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not only is it scripted, but it's filmed on a sound stage. The easiest way to tell is to look at how the "customers" behave while the negotiations are taking place. If these were actual people in the shop, they'd be watching the camera crew. Instead, they're robotically browsing the fake displays in the background.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:12:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're right...the area is closed off. But technically it isn't a sound stage. There are two parts to the shop. The public area is not where they film.
I don't know about Gold & Silver, but I was in Jay and Silent Bob's Secret Stash while they were filming a segment for Comic Book Men. The producers placed our group in strategic places around the store and told us to just stand there and look like we were browsing or reading comics. We were also told to not put things back in the wrong place or Walt would get pissed.
I've been in the shop before, and at least some of it is filmed there. It looks just like the show, and some of the items from the show are sitting out. When they film though, they get the real customers out of the store and have extras walk around like you say.
-Oc- ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:17:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's just sad. I used to watch Pawn Stars religiously when it first came out, I knew that the "witty banter" and "wacky hijinks" from the 'stars' was faked, but I always assumed the items and the customers was real.
In my mind the way it worked was if you had an interesting item you'd call the shop, they'd ask you if you wanted to be on the show, got in contact with the producers and scheduled a filming day with other potential sellers, they'd film the haggling and perhaps "encourage" you to either be pissed off or highly emotional but otherwise it would be unscripted... Guess I was wrong. :(
They called my aunt to try and get her to sell some of her Houdini memorabilia (she runs the Houdini museum in Scranton, PA) they wanted her to pretend that she came in without being asked so that they could research whatever item she would sell them and they could act like they knew shit about it. She turned them down.
lynxexp ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:45:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was in Vegas for vacation and visited the shop. I was approached by one of the shows producers and asked if I wanted to be in the show. I was then taken to a studio shop next door where they filmed. I was told to just walk around like I was browsing the shop. Obviously was scripted as they stopped and took multiple takes but was still fun.
From what I've heard other people say when this comes up, Hardcore Pawn is actually more real than Pawn Stars. The guys in Hardcore Pawn supposedly are actually seen working in the store. The people that flip out are asked to do it for the show though. The Pawn Stars guys on the other hand only show up at the store when it's time to film. When I visited, no one ever seen in the show was working in the store.
I visited the shop a year or so back, they announced over a PA system that the store was closing in less then 30 minutes to film an episode of the show. The also picked people randomly to stay in the store and "Shop"
That show drives me crazy anyways. The thought that everybody with something expensive thinks they are going to get full value at a pawn shop is ridiculous. It's shot on mock up set too I heard. Not even in the real pawn shop.
I remember reading a post a while back about a coke machine that they bought and restored on the show. But the model they bought and the finished product after it was "restored" we're two completely different models
It makes sense to change your policies as you get more media attention, but Gold and Silver Pawnshop was on Insomniac with Dave Attel and Rick was all hey Dave check out my Nazi daggers. Suddenly on the history channel someone comes in with a Nazi plate and Rick explains its historical value and then goes sorry I don't deal in Nazi items.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:02:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't really watch the show regularly but i do vaguely remember Rick at some point saying he doesnt deal in Nazi memorabilia anymore. So maybe there's a story behind it or something.
My friend worked on that show and told me that the low-value items are real, and the ones where the guy finds like a billion dollar fork from the civil war in his grandma's walls are always fake and the haggling is completely scripted and directed.
My buddy was a bartender at a bar that did a restaurant makeover show, and a friend's girlfriend works at another that did a different show. My buddy said the producers brought a rat to "find" and my homegirl said they were instructed to "fight and bicker" so she pretended to not get along with her bff, and they faked epic workplace nemeses.
NuteIla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate how they never try to get close to the asking price. I'd like to think the few situations where they did get close to asking price the seller was smart and reminded them they had a TV show advertising all these "hard to sell" collectors items.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ya I know pawn stars, the shop they show in tv isn't the actual shop they own. It's against the law or something on Las Vegas to have own shop televised or some shit.
Not everything, from what I herd from a couple of collectors I follow who went on the show or tired is that they pre screen now and days your item, if they pick you they call up ahead of time the "experts" (what you really think they are waiting on hand and foot for rick lol) so they have some time to dig up some history of the item and give rick some time to look smart for the show. The price negotiation part is real the rest is just pre thought up and don't expect to see Rick or the others in the shop if you walk right in I don't think they hang out there much anymore
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you think anything from pawn stars is real, then i feel bad for you and everybody else.
It's the episode with the fossils from the Mazon Creek that gets me. "I'm just gonna ring up my museum buddy, Scott" like fuck you two are friends outside the show.
He then values two fossil ferns at $1000. They're worth no where near that at all, I don't know any palaeontologists who would buy two carbonised ferns for that much especially when they're so abundant at the locality.
Made me mad
They make the shop look WAY bigger on the show. It is actually a pretty small place.
tang81 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Makes me wonder what happened to the chick they suddenly tried to hire. Was on a couple of episodes, then sent to work "night shift" then just dissapeared.
Shit, I like that show. So that's the reason why some "expert" will come in easily when they need them.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend that was a "stand in" for a real seller. He signed an NDA, but told me everything I wanted to know anyway. I know quite a bit about how the shoot works, but don't know if anyone cares to hear from an unverifiable source though.
Some of it is fake, some is real. For example, they sold the item for thousands of dollars, but on TV it "sold" for hundreds. So there was a real sale, but it wasn't as stupid as it appeared on TV. There's a lot more to it also...retakes, coaching from the producers, etc. Some shoots take place over the course of a few days even though they appear to be 20min long on TV.
Time stretching happens on Shark Tank also. I heard from a friend of a friend that was on Shark Tank...they interview you for 2-3hrs and chop it down to a few minutes for TV.
centex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Funny thing is Dave Attell visited them on his show Insomniac before they were famous and it was just a piece of shit pawn shop. They showed the guy haggling for a toaster at like 2AM.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:52:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went to Vegas right after the show started and caught the time in between filming. I was shocked to see chum lee actually selling shit to customers and the old granpa "Old Man" was sitting behind the counter filling some paperwork. It looked totally legit but that was way back in 2009. On my most recent trip to Vegas I walked by and was shocked to see 100 feet line of people waiting to get in!!! I spoke to one of the guys who waited in line, he said it's not a pawn shop anymore you just go there and buy bunch of overpriced pawn stars memorabilia. Hats, T-shirts and shit. The guys are only there when they are filming an episode and they are very selective who they let in inside.
Best I can do is a slight grin. There aren't that many customers looking for a full smile, but I do have a buddy in town that specializes in upturned mouths, so I'll give him a call.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My cousin was one of their "good friends" who knew comic books.
He brought his own comic book in for the shoot. You wonder how the immediately noticed ever nuance of a collectible? Because it's theirs
T_Right ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:59:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get him to do an AMA??
graaahh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:14:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I saw a thing online once where somebody analyzed a clip from that show in which the shop was buying someone's vintage guitar. The person writing it did some detective work and found out the "vintage guitar" was being sold in a guitar shop like a block away, that happened to be run by the guy who supposedly already sold the guitar to the pawn shop.
Derglas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:20:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In the first season there's a dude who sells a coke machine to them, and in turn the pawn shop get it restored by this other guy . The guy who sells the coke machine originally later is the brother of the guy who restored it.
definitely fake. Saw one of their episodes where there were 2 different angles but and item was misplace so to me the whole show was automatically fake.
Some friends of mine went on Cash Cab. One guy was chosen the day before and told to come with up to 4 friends to a certain spot the next afternoon. They met a producer who hailed the cab and were told they were going to "a game show". They had to reshoot getting into the cab because my one friend said something like, "what are the chances?! we're on our way to ANOTHER game show!".
hdulgs ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 08:58:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on Cash Cab with 2 other buddies, I was the only one who didn't know that I was gonna be on it.
The rest of it was real, besides the cash, we never got it.
They take back the cash after filming and then send a cheque to the person they contacted originally. Most likely, your buddy got the money and never shared, lol.
Like most "cash" on game shows, it's prop money. The producers take back the "cash" and mail you a cheque. They do the same on Let's Make A Deal.
hdulgs ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:48:51 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, we got notes with the hosts face on them lol.
When we got out of the cab, the host told us that we wouldn't get the money for a while. We all laughed because we thought he was telling a joke. He looked at us straight faced and said "I'm serious". 6 years later, we're still waiting. Any day now, any day.
Yeah, I figured they kind of had to have consent/some kind of staging for it.
I really hope most of that show really is scripted though, because 80% of the people that get into that cab are fucking braindead. Drunk and/or stoned maybe.
I was on it too. Didn't win any cash but we did get some really shitty coffee mugs as a participation ribbon. Fuck.
(Entering the vehicle is staged. Exiting the vehicle is too. There is a producer in the front seat. The person behind the front passenger seat has to give every final answer.)
It's funny because whenever the people get in the cab, adjust their seatbelts and seem generally kind of aloof, the lights in the ceiling start going all wacky and the contestants look all around like they're "shocked" and "bewildered" at the flashing lights. Like, don't they know that's what happens on the show?
My cousin was on Cash Cab Toronto! Genuinely just casually got in a cab, her reaction was hilarious and she won $200 which was wonderful because she was super pregnant. Didn't know what team Wayne Gretzky was on when he was at his highest point in his career (Oilers) and my dad hasn't let her live it down since.
[deleted] ยท 2149 points ยท Posted at 15:25:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the people buying the homes typically already owned one of the three homes they were looking at.
I can forgive shows like this or Property Brothers if they do this behind the scenes. For one thing, most people probably watch these shows to see cool houses and not for the implied reality of the purchase, and for another, no one would want to wait around for escrow to get on with their remodel.
tah4349 ยท 530 points ยท Posted at 22:58:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
most people probably watch these shows to see cool houses and not for the implied reality of the purchase
This is me. I like House Hunters International, but just so I can eyeball what houses and apartments look like around the world. Really, I just want to watch "Cribs: Regular People Edition"
"yo yo, check it out... this the kitchen, where almost everyday I heat up some frozen waffles in this 4 slice toaster I got at Target. The countertops are straight-out of Home Depot. The fridge was a floor model, I got 20% off 'cause there was a dent in the door. BALLER! Let's walk 7 feet real quick and I'll show you the living room/family room/game room/bedroom. 70 square feet of pure grey carpet. It was white. I got the door over there. Peep hole and shit. Word. "
My area has a lot of old and run down houses, and we saw about 50 (or so it feels like) when we were trying to buy a house. They were very neat to go through, but very scary.
That's the magic of different markets. I will probably try desperately to get a fixer upper for 500k or so, but ~800k seems to be the sweet spot in my market for activity, and the average is up around 1 million or so. I could move an hour's drive away and the houses are still 300 - 400k.
One of the recent Love it or List it (UK) a couple had purchased a flat in London on the Thames in 2006 for (insert British pound mark)350K. It's now worth 1.1 million pounds. That is insane.
Just get people to submit their content/videos and put them up on the channel. Probably requires minimal editing and I'm sure it would be a hit.
[deleted] ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 19:40:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I still enjoy those shows even though I know that they are scripted. I love watching the ones that take place in New York City just for the sheer astoundment that I find myself in when I see how tiny the houses are yet the price tag is 2.5 million dollars. Townhomes in Greenwich Village go for over a million dollars but in my area they go for like $70,000 if that. Nuts.
I moved from there to NYC a few years ago. I went from from a huge bedroom in a house in Roc to a few apartments in NYC, none of which ever had a room as my previous place, all costing over 3x the rent of my Rochester place. And yet, my official policy on Rochester is I do not want to be there unless I'm getting paid lol. I'm definitely a city person and its hard to imagine living anywhere but NYC or a similarly sized city
The walk throughs on house hunters are staged. The buyer already owns one of the three homes however that's pretty obvious since in real life you don't just look at three houses and make a buying decision. It can be a very long process.
My favorite, which I use to annoy my wife on a constant basis, is the lady whose complaint was, 'I hate this shower curtain.' And used this as a reason to not like the house.
Yep. And in the case of like, house hunters, it ensures that you don't spend a whole episode filming only for the sale to fall through and the couple to go buy a house you didn't film.
OBO786 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:57:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god. I'm reading Malazan right now. Sweet username!
Thanks! If you're on book 1, don't despair about the writing. Book 1 is by far the worst of the series, and the writing gets exponentially better after that. The first one was written as a screenplay and like years before the others so, it's not as solid as the rest of the series.
OBO786 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:32:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually really liked the first book! I'm on House of Chains right now, and so far for me it goes MoI, GoTM, and DHG. Have you finished the entire series?? Does it all pay off?
This makes sense to me too because as someone who has gone through the house buying process, it would make sense that they have already bought the house since it is long and tedious.
[deleted] ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 17:01:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"People living in the woods..." You aren't taking about... Say it isn't so!
If they are naked, then I can attest that it is as real as can be besides the fact that there is a camera crew following them. I've worked with the company that makes that show and I know some of the editors and producers.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:22:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know a guy that's been on that show several times... He is as annoying and over the top in real life as he was on the show. I found his story so, so amusing as he explained that his family "roughed it" and had to hunt for their food and pretty much lived a rugged life.
We live in a beach resort town and his family, while not filthy rich, is not poor at all. They live in a nice residential neighborhood with a pretty big house. He and his family never lived off the grid a day in their life.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:05:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shane? Is it Shane?
I hope it is Shane, I have actually found him fascinating and while he seems over the top, I think he just has some Social Anxiety which probably drives him to act the way he does, I have a good friend who reminds me of good old Shane.
I'd shake his hand in a minute, dude seems like he has seen and been through some shit.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:48:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No it's not Shane. The guy I know is the type of guy where you sadly can't blame it on social anxiety. He's someone who has always, always been desperate for attention, so it's not something you can chalk up to tough times in the military or some other tragic experience. He just needs all the attention, all the time.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:16:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Related to the home buying - there's this show called Tiny House Hunters, where people buy small houses. One episode has a lady firefighter and one of the houses she's shown, she complains about the ugly colors, but eventually picks that house despite the colors.
But not only did she already own that house, it was custom built for her and she even specifically picked out the garish colors herself. That just makes me mad.
Haha. That was probably fun for her. She got to recite all the complaints of the colors that she probably heard from others, while feeling smug that it was still going to actually be the winning house.
BrentTH ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:28:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My empty house was featured on "House Hunters." I was told they just wanted to show the prospective buyer houses similar to the one she had already picked for the tv show. She spent the whole segment bitching about how there was no doggy door. So the whole thing was a set up.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:02:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about the show about living in the woods? Is that rigged?
[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 17:36:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I watched a few episodes of Tiny House Hunters the other day for the first time since learning it's staged, and realized the house they pick already has their furniture in it. I thought it was super weird how they commented on the some of the furniture as if it came with the house! I wonder if it's less obvious with the bigger properties.
It's still fun trying to guess which house is theirs because now you have all these context clues.
If you want to know which house they will 'buy', look for the one with no furniture.
My sister bought a house, then a few days before closing was asked to be on one of the shows. She declined, but if they would have went through with filming, her house would have been empty, as it would have been filmed a day or so after closing. The other random houses would likely be filled with furniture.
"This cake" add awkward shot of P diddys mother saying nothing and staring, quick cut to nervous contestant face, quick cut to P Diddy looking angry, quick cut back to mother, commercial break, show 15 second coming up later in the show reel, commercial, back with 15 second "recap" of what just happened. Now show the tense moment "This cake..........is delicious" Quick cuts to happy contestant, happy P Diddy, Happy mother, disappointed other contestants. commercial break with 15 second coming up, promo for new Cake boss episodes, commercials, back with recap of relieved contestants and happy p diddy. End show.
Did you happen to work on one of the home buying shows where a couple purchased an apartment on the 42nd floor of the ritz in Philadelphia a couple years ago?
Friends of mine sold their house and the new owners were on House Hunters. The film shot after they purchased it, so they filmed them walking through it critiquing it as if they were seeing it for the first time.
Most of the things they picked out as flaws were changes that the new owners had actually made after buying it- light fixtures and wall colors.
My sisters friend was one of those house hunter like shows. They came up to them after they bought a house already. Had a script to look at other houses, usually they just find one and ask the owners if they can pretend to be looking to buy it. It's all fake.
The process of taking out-of-context sound bites and editing them together to make it seem as if someone said something they didn't is called "Frankenbiting" in the business, i.e. You edit together a bunch of different bites to make a Frankenbite. It's very common practice, particularly in shows that bank on interpersonal drama.
I have worked on several reality shows. Some are more fake than others, but they are all heavily scheduled and formatted, never spontaneous.
I worked on a certain MTV dating show where one of the contestants tried to escape the house in the middle of the night, and one of the Production Assistants had to tackle him in the front yard and drag him back into the house. It's like prison, they are completely cut out from the outside world (no computer, books, phones, watches) and they are fed mostly booze. They all go insane.
Also, if the show doesn't air, they don't win their prize money. This is a standard for all competition reality shows.
[deleted] ยท 824 points ยท Posted at 19:57:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I worked on a certain MTV dating show where one of the contestants tried to escape the house in the middle of the night, and one of the Production Assistants had to tackle him in the front yard and drag him back into the house.
Was this the Tila Tequila show? Because I recall they had something like this actually make the final cut of the show.
I'm guessing she doesn't have the same views I do of: "This is a group that has historically tried very hard to fit in to every community and be very productive hard working members of it."
Ferare ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:14:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She is more of a 'dress up like the SS and pose in front of a backdrop of Auswich (spelling). She suffered brain damage, and since then she is a full on nazi supporter thinking the illuminati tried to kill her at every step.
Pretty sure it was X (eX?) -Factor or something like that. I loved it haha. Had a weird theme song with this kind of ethereal female voice, I can still hear it in my head. Lyrics were something about "Do you see, what I see? [something something] that ignorance is bliss."
Yeah that's the one I figured had to be fake. There's no way in hell people would let their boyfriend/girlfriend spend the night with their ex while they just casually watched in the next house over.
Cthulia ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:53:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
they had to watch you with your ex's current bf/gf as well! it was such a train wreck, I LOVED IT
There was a show called Temptation Island that actually broke up marriages when they would put a couple with others and at the end choose if they want to stay with the new person or the spouse. Horrible.
No, it wasn't. They didn't air it. It is a MTV dating show that is recent and still airing.. A show where a bunch of people live in a house looking for there match ;)
I worked on a certain MTV dating show where one of the contestants tried to escape the house in the middle of the night, and one of the Production Assistants had to tackle him in the front yard and drag him back into the house
How is that remotely legal? Regardless of what contracts they singed, there are certain things you can't sign away your rights to (for example, you cant sign a legal contract for your own murder). The moment that contestant expressed desire to be let out of building, they revoked whatever kidnapping "consent" they gave before, and they must be released. Any lawyers here? I'm genuinely curious about the legality of this.
[deleted] ยท 111 points ยท Posted at 23:44:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I came here to ask this too. This does not sound legal.
That's what I assumed. That seems rather far fetched. Plus if the guys were held against their will, they could have easily reported it to the authorities.
People don't know what their rights are half the time. Did you know that EULAs have been deemed not legally binding because no one reads them and they change constantly?
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:45:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If people had to sign their contracts, I suspect a low fewer bullshit contracts would be signed.
Edit: umm... Replied to the wrong comment. Oops
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:09:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are plenty of laws that voids BS contracts tho. I'm 99.99% sure that you cannot sign a contract that allows other civilians to imprison you the same way you can't sign a contract to become a slave or whatnot.
TLema ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:32:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But maybe the type of people on an MTV reality show aren't the type of people to know that.
TwiZtah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:55:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ignorance of laws is not a valid argument nor does it hold up in court.
duffpan ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 02:43:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not a lawyer, but a law student here. The tort of false imprisonment is the closest legal standard this would touch. However, depending on what the contracts say (I have never participated in these shows so cannot speak to what the language in the contracts say), you can actually sign away your right to fight false imprisonment, basically by consenting to being held in the house at the discretion of the director or show staff.
Edit: by right to false imprisonment, I mean you sign away your rights to say you were falsely imprisoned
franker ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:51:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
so it's kind of like how a football player consents to battery when he's playing on the field?
Unless you were incarcerated you'd be violating the constitution in signing away your rights, because you can't actually give away rights granted by amendment, ala the 13th in this case.
The contract where you did it and the signing away of the rights in of itself was never legal and that contract is worth as much as toilet paper fished out of the sewer.
You might have made it impossible to sue in civil, but they're still guilty of kidnapping and slavery.
You can give away basically any of your constitutional rights at will.
For example, non-disclosure agreements are legally enforceable, despite the first amendment. You can choose to incriminate yourself to the police or prosecuting authority despite the Fifth amendment. You can choose not to be represented by an attorney despite the sixth amendment. Hell, you can even decide to quarter troops in your home!
Except all of those require you to be actively participating and you're still in control (other than the NDA), which is much different than someone imprisoning you after you no longer agree.
So in their contract, they sign that they are agreeing to stay at the house for X weeks, and if they leave, they could possibly be sued for breach of contract.
Qvar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:18:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Non-US lawyer here. It's not exactly written down anywhere, but common sense (which afaik you aren't exactly swimmin in over there) dictates that it would go down aproximately like this:
Participant tries to escape.
Production tackles him.
Production explains that if he actually escapes the contract will be void and they won't pay him anything.
If he stills want to go, they cannot touch him and he's free to go right away. Otherwise it's effectively kidnapping. If he doesn't want to go the relationship resumes.
In case they choose not to tackle him, the contract would be directly voided.
Not a lawyer but also worked in tv. These contracts are ironclad, you're literally signing away all of your rights for a specified period depending on the show format.
That being said, I don't think a PA should have tackled talent. But it's not uncommon to have some sort of security that guards the rooms to make sure no one is leaving.
I love the bachelor so much, its just great TV, the people trying to be villains to get more airtime, the ones desperate to be picked because they are hot and people don't turn them down, the ones trying use it as a launch pad, the rididculous egos. Every time a bachelorette says "he said up this date for me" like there wasn't 30 production assistants that made the spectacular date. Unreal is extreme but they pick people based on how fucked up they are and go from there
Same on 5th Grader. My ep was canceled so I didn't win $100k, but then it was rescheduled a few months later so I did win! Heavily edited content though. They cut a lot out.
I worked on the MTV show "Next" for a little while. Everything you see is completely fake and scripted. I was working as a production assistant on the show when one of the contestants didn't show up. Since I was the new guy (I'd only worked 3 or 4 days for them at this point) they asked me to take his place. I didn't want to do it at all but after some cajoling and the promise of more work with MTV I agreed. They made me look like a complete idiot on national television, put "facts" up about me that weren't true, and to boot they never even fucking hired me again. so, fuck MTV. I can't say that strongly enough, FUCK MTV!
No way. It's not possible to sign away your rights or allow someone to do something illegal to you. It's still illegal no matter what you sign. That said, it would be really hard to prove when looking at the situation at hand and they would drag you through years of legality.
Even if they let you go you would be breaking a contract with them and that would carry its own consequences.
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 23:10:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, there are certain things you can't wave your rights to. For example, you can't consent to murder, slavery, etc.
[deleted] ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 23:09:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, this one actually cracks me up. Anyone willing to go on an MTV reality show deserves to be tortured.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:52:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus, that sounds awful. That screams red flag to me. Pretty much forcing an addictive substance on you, creating social oddities and boundaries that aren't normal on you, detaining you.. that's simply a social experiment that is making people insane. Hello alcohol and eventual drug abuse, severe anxiety and paranoia (are there cameras here now?) And anything that has to go with it, Stockholm's syndrome maybe? I always thought it would be cool to go on one and party it up and live with some fun people, but I didn't realize the extent of the personal invasion and the lack of sympathy.
I have a friend who signed up to audition for a show that she thought was "The Bachelorette", or something similar. I guess its standard practice to not give the actual name of the show, and just say, "We need good looking, energetic young women for blah blah blah."
So she got called back, went through a few different interviews and a screen test. Finally, they tell her that the concept is that she will be running a Pawn Shop with another woman. She is a dental assistant with no experience remotely related to the Pawn business.
"Pawn Queens" ended up being on for two seasons and they gave her a backstory about how/why she got interested in the pawn business. Not exactly SHOCKING, but it was pretty interesting to see that they basically looked for hot girls first, then put them into a proven concept ("Pawn Stars"-type reality show).
[deleted] ยท 4168 points ยท Posted at 16:31:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit, I just went to the Wikipedia page for the show and saw this:
Each episode focuses on how pawn businesses operate, and features Minda and Nikki struggling to debunk the stereotype that the pawn business is only for men, which they made up completely.
Haha, I'd never read that. I think a lot of Pawn businesses are actually family owned and it's not really UNUSUAL to see the wife or grandma chain smoking and giving customers dirty looks from behind the counter.
mndtrp ยท 453 points ยท Posted at 16:56:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The two shops I wander into occasionally are both generally manned by women. Unsure weather they are the owners, related to the owners, or are just staff, though.
zach2992 ยท 1162 points ยท Posted at 17:07:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You gotta take it further - perdaughterwomynned rather than personmanned. I've seen a lot of shit but hopefully there's no one out there who will take this comment seriously and/or uses "perdaughterwomynned" as a real word.
ZPudd ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 21:54:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
oncie ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 21:26:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TRIGGERED!!
Fraerie ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:13:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to live next door to a linguistics professor and this was one of their personal bugbears - I heard many lectures on the topic.
The language root for the use of the word manned in this context most likely comes from managed, which in turn comes from manipulate or to hold. It's the same as 'chairman' has nothing to do with gender, but the person that holds the chair (position of authority).
Churba ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, in the case of "Manned", it's going back to the same root as using "Man" to just mean "A human", as in, there's a person in it. Which is an odd one, since it went from neutral, to gendered, and back again(in some contexts, though debatably) over time.
Though it's weird that this professor wasn't up to date with the current(well, for the last decade or more, but it's not changed, so still current) thinking on the topic, which is that while this is true, that linguistic convention may still be considered sexist, as it also continues the historic idea that men are the standard for being a person. But, maybe they just disagreed, it's not important.
Honestly, I'd just dodge the issue and use "staffed", given the choice.
Fraerie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:44:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Full disclosure - the conversation was over 20 years ago. But it happened pretty much every time the body corporate[1] minutes came out and it had "Chairperson" in it.
[1] They lived across the landing from us and were an owner occupier, as was my flatmate.
Churba ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Ah, I thought it was rather more recent than that - after all, the userbase around here does tend to skew younger than we are. If it was twenty years ago, that's far more understandable. Apologies, sorry about that.
HEY, keep your CIS opinions and ideas to yourself. If they want to be manned by women, or womanned by men or what ever they can. If they want to be puppy dogged by aardvarks, it is THEIR CHOICE!
mndtrp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a cloudy moment, should one misspelled word open me up to a flood of comments about it? Hail no! All y'all are raining on my parade and ruining my sunny disposition. I'm sorry I mist it earlier.
Aksen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
pretty interesting, i have only been in a few and it was just men there. In my head when I picture a pawn shop owner, I picture a man... never really thought about it until now.
Yeah I agree with the family owned part, my dad owned a pawn shop and my hometown had about 6 pawn shops in it. Dad was friends with almost all the other pawn shop owners and their families. Most times the husband runs the shop and the wife does some back-end stuff. One lady had a clothing store next to get her husband's pawn shop and also moonlighted as a stripper. I knew a few women who worked in pawn shops as jewellers.
There's a pawn shop I like because it's huge and they always have neat stuff to look at. And the manager is a woman, and the rest if the workers are little Asian guys. She's tough as nails too and nearly the same height as me (5'11). She can run that place pretty damn fine, can't even haggle with her, so adamant.
I used to frequent the pawn shops in Florida looking for deals, and almost all of them were family run, and generally there was a matriarchal figure calling the shots.
remember: the most successful pirate in the world was a (chinese) woman. piracy and pawnery aren't really that far apart, in terms of vocational choices.
That last part is actually recent vandalism. If you check the history it's the third most recent edit, and the two more recent were by the same non-registered user, also similarly flaming the show, including "For any who have watched it, it's painfully staged and boring"
It may not be worded correctly or sourced, but it is true and should be included in the article. All you'd need is a media article mentioning that it's common for women to work in pawn shops.
Still, it's from a user that only submits vandalism/insulting edits. Unless it has a good reason to be there, it's better to just remove it until there's better sources.
Mksiege ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:25 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It has two sources, so it belongs.
postuk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:48:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How is a stereotype like that even remotely believable to a functioning human being? As if none of us know at least one woman who drives a hard bargain. Geddafuggaouttahere. Reality tv has moved from sort of cleverly scripted nonsense to just throwing ideas made out of smegma at the screen.
I went there once, they only show the nice corner of the store like where the jewelry is. The rest of the store that they don't film is really dirty and filled with broken TV's and computers from the 90's
I did get to meet les tho and he was extremely nice.
it's funny that this is the meme when normally you get at LEAST half of the retail price.
brodhi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:40:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The meme started when PatTheNESPunk went on the show to sell his rare NES games and they used the "it'll sit on the shelfs so long...." line on him. Chumlee also did the negotiation, probably the least qualified person to barter for rare video games.
Dialects that pronounce /r/ at the end of a syllable as a consonant. AKA rhotic accents. They make up the majority of North America, Scotland, Ireland, and and the West Country.
You speak in a non-rhotic accent, meaning that you don't pronounce /r/ as a consonant unless it precedes a vowel, like in "rake", "break", or "flooring" (compare to "start" or "floor"). For you, a written "r" after a vowel is actually a vowel modifier rather than a consonant.
Other pairs that rhotic speakers distinguish that you might not include "caught" vs "court", "coda" vs "coder", "spa" vs "spar", and "Korea" vs "career".
All of that said, other dialects lack distinctions that you make. I'm a western American, so "caught" and "cot" are identical for me, as are "ma" and "maw" and "sari" and "sorry". Where you have three distinct vowel sounds distinguishing those words and dozens of others (short O, broad A, and aw), I only have one.
bushy82 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Despite having no intention of validating your statements, that was a really interesting contribution. I definitely just sat here on the big mouthing those words with different accents.
I thought "pawn" had a long a in it. So with "prom" being short, wouldn't it have almost nothing in common? And certainly much less than "pawn" and "porn".
Am not English so I would appreciate some insight. Would hate to pronounce those things wrong.
Prom doesnt rhyme with any if you are pronouncing it correctly. Its one syllable Purr - omm
Finally Prawn is Purr aww -n
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Porn is right, but just make sure it's not two syllables or dragged out It's short.
Pawn is not pronounced like that where I am from. It's pronounced the same as porn. We don't say pahn.
Corn is again short, but yeah, core-n.
There's no such thing as 'pronouncing something correctly' when we're talking about comparing different countries' accents. That makes zero sense. Prom rhymes with 'from' for a start.
Prawn is again, short but no 'u' in the first bit - 'pr-aw-n'. Of course, all of these break up of pronounciations are again affected by how you or I would pronounce 'aw' or such. But I don't know IPA off the top of my head.
You're a fool who doesn't understand how language is created and flows.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:06 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hahahaah, you're arguing that I don't know how language develops by trying to maintain that English has one pronounciation? For starters, there's RP, Estuary English, American English, Canadian English.
Here's a nice easy one for you - thorough. How do you pronounce that? There's a least an American and English version of it and they're both right.
Neither do you. You just think you do. RP, Estuary English, American English, Canadian English are all dialects of English just like Cantonese and Mandarin are dialects of Chinese. You are welcome to not admit you are clueless. It doesn't change anything.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:25 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're accents. Pronunciation in each of them is 100% correct to that accent. And also well done on not coming back about thorough as you clearly know fuck all.
They are not accents. An accent is a subset of a dialect. American English dialect of English (which if you want to be specific originated in England and changed over the centuries) has numerous accents, the southern one (like georgia and Mississippi drawl) and Boston and New York etc.
An accent does not dictate how a word sounds. Its an artifact of environment. A word sounds like how is declared to sound across all dialects. This is how languages forms and grows. There isn't 50 ways to pronounce a word. There is one way and ONLY ONE WAY. However pre internet, local affectations and environment caused words to be altered, this was allowed because people in normal life don't really give a f+++ about diction. This is why ain't and Ya'll exist.
So once again you can set there about believe whatever you want to believe. It doesn't change anything.
Most non-Americans make a three-way distinction between "ah" as in "khan", "short O", as in "con", and "aw" as in "lawn". The ones who drop /r/ tend to merge "or" with "aw" so "corn, porn, pawn, lawn" are all perfect rhymes, but "khan" and "pawn" are not.
Interesting. Perhaps this is where our differences come from. In my understanding, words can rhyme and not end in the same letter if they have the same or very similar vowel sound (speaking simply, since we're currently only discussing monosyllabic words).
For me, from is pronounced 'frum', whereas the pom in in 'pom-pom' is pronounced more like 'pahm'. And the por in 'porn' is pronounced like 'poor', and so is the for in 'form'.
When I say 'pawn' I pronounce it like 'pahn', and 'prom' like 'prahm', so they rhyme each other but do not rhyme with the the 'poor' sound in 'porn'.
I make a different mouth shape for the 'ah' vs the 'or', so to me they do not rhyme. I would be interested to hear your take on this. Language is of interest to me.
Pawn Stars had a game-show-like spinoff called Pawnography.
Belgand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Castle is also a clever chess joke. It refers to how going from mystery writer to police detective is a lateral career move, but it sets him up for greater future advancement and control.
I feel like it's neither a chess joke nor a porn pun. I think it's just a kind of catchy title that describes the (staged or not) subject matter of the show.
exit6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:08:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 201 points ยท Posted at 16:59:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's kind of fucked up that on the male versions of pawn shows the men are absolutely disgusting slobs. But on the 'female version' only hot chicks will do.
Well with Pawn Stars the family really does own a pawn shop and just happened to get a show, but since this show was forced and an unoriginal concept they needed something to set them apart and they simply went with the brainless approach of "hey let's add hot chicks lol" since most reality T.V. is aimed at the lowest common denominator.
No, it's because you fail to realize it isn't misogyny because that show is appealing to a target demographic: men. As far as racism goes? Sure, racism is always going to be present from all races to all races. But being a minority doesn't hold you back in any way. (In the western world at least).
Dude. Blacks are still hugely fucking targeted by police and the general populace and are hired at ridiculously low rates. I'm not invested in our argument enough to find the stats, but read up on that shit, and you'll see. Don't just assume you know because you yourself aren't racist. Down in Arizona, it's still a huge problem in small towns.
As for women, I understand how the initial comment is a bit off base, though sexism is still a fucking huge issue.
You can find biased stats in favor of anything. And like I said, there are blacks that hate whites, and whites that hate blacks. If black people happen to get arrested more, then maybe they are commiting more crime. I won't even bother looking up the stats for that because we both know the truth. As far as sexism goes, there are advantages and disadvantages to both sexes. It's just life
Oh, holy shit. You are just a racist. You'd look at any statistic you're ever given and claim blacks are the problem. Hm. Well, I hope you get a bigger world view and learn to analyze things logically.
Lmao. And you're really the one jumping to conclusions. I'm not say blacks are the problem. I'm just saying that would explain why they are arrested more often. You know, because they are commiting more crime? I hope you learn to analyze things logically and stop overthinking things.
Um, yeah? Of course there are women that watch it, it's just not the main targeted audience. Do you really think the audience of these pawn shows contains more women than men?
my wifey n all her airhead twat friends watch that storage pawn shop house flipin bullshit all fuckin day n know the character names and their fabricated lil formulated personalities n shit. fuck yes it's all tits in the front row.
adding prettier girls is catering to purse-holders and lesbians.
Isn't it the opposite? Depicting men as fat, lazy, and stupid while showing women and smart and attractive sounds more like men hating than women hating.
No, because fat, lazy, stupid women also exist, and there's no way they'd ever get paid millions to be told what to do by tv producers. Unlike fat men, who, demonstrably, can be and are. Basically, it's socially-acceptable for a man to be a gross pig, but a woman being anything less than 'hot' is a social death sentence.
Heavy, My 600 Pound Life (though it features both genders), My Big Fat Fabulous Life, Big Women: Big Love. I'm not saying it isn't unbalanced, but there are plenty of shows revolving around fat women.
And don't get me wrong, there are plenty of shows that feature fat men, but their fat isn't glorified, nor is it really focused upon.
Even considering shows like Family Guy, and The Simpsons, the dad is always ragged on for being fat/lazy/stupid and it's always a wonder how he has such a wonderful wife. The problem is, flip that. A show featuring a fat woman that is constantly made fun of because of her weight/intelligence. A lot of people would be outraged. I'm not saying these are my opinions, but is it possible shows don't feature fat women in a negative way because they don't want backlash from so many women who feel incorrectly portrayed?
Obviously we still have shows featuring exclusively skinny and beautiful women which can also be considered incorrect portrayal of the average woman, but I don't believe the solution to this problem is to make shows about fat women and glorify them.
I tend to agree. There are different standards in place for men and women when it comes to dressing in clean, stylish clothes with hair combed and a clean face. I work retail and see/hear a lot of examples of this.
Easy, he's a misogynist. It's his opinion that he's sharing and claiming that it's everyone else's.
Next he'll explain glamour magazines as women's self hate.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 22:35:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not socially acceptable at all for a man to be a gross pig. What's socially acceptable is depicting men as gross pigs. Depict a woman as a gross pig and you're a fat-shaming misogynist.
Actually, depict a woman as a fat gross pig and you're the scriptwriter for a top-grossing summer comedy. Bonus points if the lead character is played by Melissa McCarthy or Rebel Wilson!
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:26:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
TL;DR: Redditor lives in Tumblr and has no idea what the real world is like. Also thinks insults and defamation make him look super cool and edgy. Finally, literally has never had an original thought, ever, and can only parrot the bullshit learned in Gender Studies/Reddit.
EDIT: Almost forgot the most important one! This redditor honestly thinks that anyone who disagrees with them is LITERALLY Hitler. It's really the perfect storm of retard identity politics taken the shape of a person.
Feminism in terms of equality of the genders isn't a bad thing. When feminists want more and more privileges over men when the genders are already equal than that's a bad thing. Besides, there's a legitimate reason why shows often feature hot girls exclusively for the "female version" and it isn't because the creators are misogynists or whatever.
The reason why shows use hot girls almost exclusively is because the producers know that if they show hot girls than the show will be watched more by men who want to see hot girls. It works too. That's why they do it.
I'm not saying that it's fair or anything it's pretty fucked up tbh, but it's true that they only care about money. Anyway my reply was meant as a sort of joke anyway but it obviously wasn't perceived as one by 22+ people.
Anyways, once again, feminism isn't bad, but wouldn't you agree that the genders are already equal? That would make further feminism unnecessary because it would make female the dominant gender which it already is because of the way that humans function biologically.
The fact is that since virtually infinite females could be impregnated by one male, however if you have 1 female and 3 males than the males have to fight in order to pass on their genes to the next generation. What you end up with is females pretty much just choosing their mates while males end up fighting over females and such.
That being said, it's evolutionary advantageous to be competitive and aggressive. So essentially females are dominant naturally because they essentially select and choose which genes pass on to the next generation and which don't.
Combined with today's society where you have feminist groups, and Hillary running for president, it's obvious that females are pretty much taking over every profession. Look at the new ghostbusters trailer, they have female protagonists now instead of male protagonists.
All of this being said, females in general truly are dominant. I'd be happy to discuss this with you if you have any sort of objection or comment to make about what I just said. That being said, surely you can understand how the idea of females rising up against "oppression" that doesn't exist and being equal after already having all of the same rights as men do can be somewhat of a joke to me.
Let me tell you why you need to evaluate yourself. No one asked for this story, so it is a bit weird to randomly dump this. Weird things you name: Hilary running for president as a sign of women taking over all jobs, when it would only be the first time they actually had a chance for the job at all. Action groups that even have a a female majority are pretty rare, one movie is not an example of a trend. I would also recommend to cut down on trying to explain modern dating with a vague evolutionary statements, it makes guys sound desperate, like they follow bad pick-up artist books. It makes them sound very uninvolved with real life. Women being allowed to choose their partner is in many places a new thing, people still alive remember how women had to be chaperoned on dates or the father just decided who she would marry. Many of even the most progressive West European countries have only outlawed marital rape 20-10 years ago or didn't allow married women to own their own bank account. Equal right doesn't mean equal chances, racism didn't just suddenly disappear when segregation wasn't allowed by law anymore. There are still many religious institutions that see women as inferior and even with laws in place that should give women equal rights there are still outdated mindsets that have a negative influence on how they are treated.
[deleted] ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 16:22:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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h83r ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 16:40:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, the latest one "Freedumb". It's on Netflix and it's the best one so far in my opinion. He's quickly approaching George Carlin's status of comedian and social commenter.
I worked at a storage facility and we hosted "Storage Wars" one time and they did the exact same thing. People who default on their storage units do not have thousands of dollars in goods stored in there. More often then not it was practically empty or trash. They planted so many items to "discover", not sure how the bidders actually make money. We had a regular group of guys that would come to our auctions and when they saw the storage wars crew they all left. They are notorious for buying ever bin just so they can plant stuff and film.
Youtoo2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How much eas she paid?
buge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
According to the show's producer, Jason Morgan, while in town for his 20-year high school reunion, he dropped by Naperville Jewelry & Loan upon hearing that the store dealt in high-end items. An assistant had coincidentally found the shop while researching unusual pawn shops.[2] This led to the shooting of the pilot episode, through August 2010.[3]
Late to the party but I worked as a field producer and episode director on a couple of shows. They were real. I always thought of them as Petri dish documentaries. The scenarios were cooked up but the behaviours and decisions of the people were up to them. Since it was a competition and there was a prize involved US game show law kicked in, so only a few of us were actually allowed to interact with contestants, and when we did interact for interview etc, we could not reveal anything they did not know or influence in any way.
Of course we had psych profiles on everyone so we always new how to push their buttons for effect
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So essentially "reality shows" just use the "reality" genre as a marketing technique. It's just as Hollywood as anything else on TV. Good, I don't watch that garbage coming out of the plastic boxes anyway. I mean, who doesn't watch TV? I don't. Now you met one.
So the real irony here is that 'reality tv' is anything but reality. Real shocker, huh?
It's basically that they script the premise, and then get real people who have no acting experience to improv whatever they can, which is why the acting is so shitty. Which is also why people hate watching this shit.
Yep. Back in my modeling days, I went to an audition that called for "Young, Attractive Asian Models" for a reality show, only to find out it was casting for Flavor of Love 2. They really wanted an Asian girl in the cast for some reason. Pay was $100 a day. I noped the fuck out of there, obv.
I have been past the building a lot since the show was filmed.
The business has closed.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isnt this how typical boy bands, rock bands, many major singing/radio/record stars are formed to begin with? First find who looks good, then put an instrument or mic in front of them and see what sticks? Been the thing for the past 4 decades no?
I live in the town where Pawn Queens was shot. The store it takes place in has been here for quite sometime, but I guess they just hired them for the show
A friend of mine was on Shark Tank recently. The episode hasn't aired yet so we don't know how they will edit the story to be, but they did get an actual deal with actual money from Mr. Wonderful.
From what I've heard from previous responses to this question about Shark Tank, everything is 100% real. The only difference is that the actual meeting with the sharks takes hours instead of what it's edited down to (roughly 10 minutes).
Yep, he said they were in there for about an hour just getting drilled with questions. He said the most frustrating part was all four of them would be yelling questions at them simultaneously and it's hard to know who to respond to.
[deleted] ยท 1393 points ยท Posted at 16:22:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a genre called "it's all real but guaranteed outcome."
That is if you sit someone down in a room for four hours and scream things at them you'll get 10 minutes of incoherent nonsense out of anyone but people directly trained to handle this nonsense. As the typical Reddit aside, this is why you don't let the police interrogate you for four hours without a lawyer - they'll get ten minutes of incoherent shit out of you they can present in court to talk about how you're contradicting yourself. Not all cops are scumbags (most aren't) but any non-scumbag cop can ask you anything they want with a lawyer sitting there. It's not really life-or-death, they can wait for the lawyer, they'll get OT pay if the lawyer takes a bit.
This is a much more succinct explanation for why innocent people shouldn't talk to the police without a lawyer than I usually give. Have an upvote, and I'll be stealing this.
How's this? You start out innocent, nothing you say will make you more innocent. Don't talk to the cops.
phl_fc ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:04:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being guilty or innocent has nothing to do with it, all that matters is what's presented in court. If they fluster you and get you to contradict yourself then you could end up in trouble even if you are innocent.
Check out this video that demonstrates why NO ONE should talk to the police. It's not a bash on police or rant about "am I being detained", but a lecture from a lawyer and police officer about how the odds are stacked against you and anything you say will ultimately condemn you. It's long but it is incredibly insightful
Yeah I like this video and recommend it to people, but this guy also uses long and convoluted hypotheticals to explain why you shouldn't talk to the police without a lawyer. The explanation from /u/trustfriendcomputer "they'll get 10 minutes of incoherent shit out of you they can present in court to talk about how you're contradicting yourself" is a lot more succinct.
Dirus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:13:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's to cover all the bases. If you tell that short bit to someone, they might still think otherwise in certain situations.
No, I'm just a guy that doesn't answer police questions, and it usually takes me a convoluted series of hypotheticals to explain to someone why a person "with nothing to hide" shouldn't answer police questions.
It has a built-in naivetรฉ. Having "nothing to hide" implies that the police, prosecutors, judge, and jury are perfect at determining innocence and guilt. The reality is that the interrogator has no idea if your statements are you being honest about your "nothing to hide" or statements aimed to make them think you have nothing to hide. Even the innocent mess up details or make statements that can be interpreted multiple ways. The guilty have great stories about how they didn't do it too. Some of them can even be more convincing than the innocent.
A lot of people have the attitude that they should cooperate with the police. Unfortunately, that's a terrible attitude to have with the police if you might potentially be charged with a crime. Even more unfortunately, you might be charged with a crime any time you talk to the police ever.
Just watched an Episode of cops and saw that one of the guys gettin pulled over was nervous and the cop made note of it. So down the line he asks to search the car and the guy is like "no I'd rather
You not". The Cop starts giving him the "oh your acting suspicious" bit. So the cop is like, if it's weed we can give you a ticket for it. So the guy getting pulled over goes "I have weed you can search my car, Because that's all you'll find" you know just trying to make the situation less of a pain for the cop. After the cop finds the weed, the fucker puts the guy in cuffs and puts him in the back of another squad car and tells him he's going to jail. I replayed the scene a few more times and he surely did say "if it's only weed I'm gonna give you a ticket"
Moral of the story, don't trust cops when they tell you shit like "if it's xyz, I'll give you a ticket" or that "nothing to hide" nonsense...
It is illegal to lie to the police (although it is legal to say nothing). It is 100% legal for the cops to lie to you. And they can arrest you based on the lies that they tell you and based on your reaction to those lies.
Someone broke into my friend and his GF house and stole TV and electronics. When they cops were looking around for clue they found a bowl for smoking marijuana. It was my friends. The cops asked if it were theirs and they denied it. They cop said the reason we are asking because we need to know if the person that broke in dropped it so we know if we need to send it to the lab to see if it has DNA on it. If its yours we won't do anything we just don't want to waste resources testing something when there is no point. They admitted it was theirs. They were both instantly handcuffed and taken to jail.
Blain ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:26:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The cop from that video really opened my eyes to it over the fast talking lawyer who spoke first. Just his simple analogy of you being in a room with a detective who is trained in talking and interrogating. When he put it like that, it made me realize that I would never stand a chance against a detective, and that the best course of action would be for me to never do anything wrong and hope I never have to end up in that chair.
I do like his analogy of you going into the ring with a championship boxer because it makes the interview process into something tangible. You can obviously see the difference in skill between the boxer and yourself and you know you're going to lose. Since the interview is mental however, you wouldn't make that distinction and choose to fight anyway despite how outclassed you are.
benzoic ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:09:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of those cops think they are legitimately doing their job. They think they have "broken you" or "seen through you." They will nag on details that have nothing to do with anything and make no sense. "He couldn't remember the price of his slurpee and first said he paid with a visa, but his visa was cancelled, and he was only carrying a Mastercard."
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:53:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well first, no, no lawyers at 2 AM. You'll have to wait. Possibly until Monday if you're picked up Friday evening. And you'll possibly be waiting in jail. See: how the cops can be a dick to you (Friday at 9 PM? Time to go question him!).
Mostly you'll be released on bond. At which point you can find a lawyer in your own time. Sometimes if they're not charging you they'll just release you. Do the same.
If you can't make bond or they want you for a crime so serious there is no bond it gets sticky. These are rare. So you'll hang around a bit, make bond, then be able to get a lawyer.
If you have a lawyer on retainer that's different. Most cop shows do this because inserting a three day dance into the proceedings doesn't help with crime drama. But it's far from the norm. Basically at some point they'll let you go on bail, pick up a lawyer then. There's also a maximum time they can detain you without charging you. So there's a lot of ways they can be an asshole in the process, and they may use all of them.
Edit: To expound a little more, if they're being scumbags they'll try to convince you that you just need to talk to them and they'll let you go. Much faster than dragging it out, then getting a lawyer, and then getting back there, right? But think it through. Why are you stuck there? Because the police are keeping you there. If they really wanted to expedite things they'd let you go ASAP so you could go get a lawyer and then they could get their questions answered. But instead they want you to answer them without a lawyer. The entire reason for the delay is them, and it's entirely because they don't want that lawyer there. If they wanted you to have that lawyer and be talking with them you'd be out immediately with a fist full of business cards right from the cops. Hell they could drop you at the local library and you could research every attorney in the city and have one within a few hours. So never think "it'll just be faster if I answer". They're the ones making it take time. At some point you have to see a judge (and get a public defender or get the ability to find a lawyer) or be released. It's really a simple equation. Just the cops know jail is dehumanizing and sucks and they purposefully make it suck as hard as they can.
If cops ask you to come in, say "no, thanks" and lawyer up. Of course if you are under arrest you have to go. Btw, pretending to be a police officer and telling someone to be at the police station at 2 pm is a common trick of thiefs. Once you return your house is empty.
If you are at a police station and being asked questions, tell them that you are using your right to remain silent until your lawyer tells you otherwise. If you can make a call, tell a friend to get a lawyer for you. If you can't afford one, wait until you are taken in front of a judge and request a public defender there.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:53:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I apologize for being very ignorant about police interrogation beyond what I've seen on The Shield, but how does having a lawyer there protect you from contradicting yourself?
Presumably you'll talk to the lawyer prior to the interrogation and they'll get your story straight. Then during the interrogation they can make sure there isn't any funny business.
A lawyer will take down the police's questions, then ask them to you in a safe environment the police legally can't monitor. They'll hear your side of events and give a prepared statement to the police. They can question you on details without pressure, and know to omit details you're unsure of (did you get Diet Coke or ice tea? Did the cashier have brown or blonde hair? Etc). It's called a prepared statement for a reason. They offer legal advice on what questions you should answer, how to answer, how to not answer without incriminating yourself.
You had me until you tried to tell me about how nice cops are.
Personal mileage may vary. I've had those fuckers steal money and lie under oath with their bare faces hanging out. And I wasn' even a criminal, just in the proverbial 'wrong place'.
cops are dicks. It's the job.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:22:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They do. But they're trained to extract it, not uncover it. They also believe in interrogation tactics and overestimate their own ability to read people. They want the truth, but are often biased against it.
Interrogation methods are designed to get information out of people. That doesn't necessarily mean they're screaming at you. Maybe they're acting like your friend and pretending to sympathize with you. The bias is that they're trying to get incriminating information out of someone. If they've decided you're guilty, things that show guilt are proof and things that show innocence are just lack of confession. There are a few famous cases of innocent people confessing to murders they didn't commit because of interrogation methods. In those cases, they kept going until the person was so psychologically stressed, they said whatever the police wanted to hear.
Honestly man, truth of the world is that most people want to draw a paycheck, go home and enjoy it. Cop or not. The other truth is that most people the cops are interrogating are guilty. And most of them are shitheads. The cops interrogate a lot of shitheads. The average "interrogation" goes something like:
"Franklin, did you steal something from the convienence store"
"I didn't do shit!"
"We have you on video grabbing two six packs and running out of the store. We found you with half a six pack and 9 empty beer cans off the side of the road three miles down."
"I didn't do shit pig!"
Needless to say this level of shithead creates some disrespect for your fellow man. Which is to say after enough of them (and remember, this is what 95% of interrogations are like) they just generally assume you're guilty and a shithead from the word go. Which is why lawyers are nice.
What you have to remember is they just want to go through the day with the minimum of irritation, go home, and be done with it. Be polite, ask for a lawyer, don't be a shithead.
Now a good 5-10% of them are just fucking assholes. Good advice? Be polite, ask for a lawyer, don't be a shithead. They'll try to provoke you, ask for a lawyer, don't be a shithead. You're the bigger man/woman. Make sure you tell the lawyer what they did to provoke you, drop a bag of bricks on them if you can, don't be a dick.
In any case, safest assumption is they don't really care, they just want to get home eventually, so be nice, ask for a lawyer, don't say dick, don't be a dick. Should you have civil liberties regardless of whether you're a dickhead or not? Yeah. But being a dickhead isn't gonna earn you any points.
Those comments usually ignore the fact that the bad cops often only still have their jobs because of political connections, and ratting them out will do nothing except get your boss mad at you and breed contempt from your coworkers.
Well it's worse than that. Bad cops are often good cops from management's perspective (and they are management). Our legal system is founded on the idea that it's better to let 10 guilty men go free than see one innocent man hanged. But a cop who gets 1 guilty man and 1 innocent man convicted got two convictions. And since department performance is measured in convictions, he's a good cop.
As someone who has never heard of this show, I was incredibly confused about what you guys were talking about.
I was thinking along the lines some kind of underwater quiz show in a shark cage where they question you for hours with sharks swimming around you.
I now realise this is probably a show similar to Dragons Den.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:17:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha, would be pretty odd with a show with where people are put in a real shark tank, holding meetings and these animals wondering why the human can't answer their simple questions in shark-language :D and yes it is exactly the same formula as dragons den!
I mean... to be fair, if they ask questions for an hour and the person struggles with 2 minutes of questions, the producers are going to pick those 2 minutes to build the drama.
synth22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's why the supplier needs to command the room. Sure, it's an intimidating thing to do, and much easier said, but if you think about it, it'll warrant a great deal of respect from the Sharks, and show that you aren't someone to be easily walked over.
It makes more sense now why some people are so annoyed/mean to the investors. I always thought it was weird that people asking for hundreds of thousands of dollars couldn't act nice for 10 minutes. That they were in the wrong line of work. But I guess we're seeing clips from a long meeting that isn't going well and they've already hit their breaking point.
To be fair, I pitched my startup at Y Combinator and some less well known accelerators and this is 100% true there too. Though technically YC's interviews are exactly 10 minutes.
I've actually read somewhere that even though the deals get "closed" on the show, a lot of them don't actually come to market because there's much behind the scenes with lawyers and and due diligence whatnot and Shark the makes the deal will always have some sort escape clause.
That's 100% how it works in the corporate world, too.
You agree in principle in a pitch meeting and then get to work. I have no idea what the percentage is, but I'd be surprised if even have the deals actually get done. The investor will think about it and may just want to back out or they may find legitimate issues with fundamental tech or accounting or something else. But all they have to say in general is that they're uncomfortable with the bookkeeping.
There is due diligence on shark tank, and they sometimes mention it on the show. Of course you wouldn't invest without it, especially given the actually very little info that the sharks get. Additionally, there is a 5% royalty on every product that goes on the show, even the ones that don't get a deal.
Well that explains why the editing team always has so many shots of entrepreneurs looking back and forth with their eyes really wide open and mouths slack.
As someone who's worked in video production it's very easy to change the way something is perceived through relatively simple editing. I can take a stammering, rambling, incoherent interview and make an audience cry.
In a college class we were all given about 4 hours of footage and then drew a note from a jar saying like "make the guy in the red shirt seem super interesting" or "make the girl in the blue dress really awkward and aloof" it was absolutely crazy what was able to be done, directly conflicting notes were both pulled off with different edits.
[deleted] ยท 395 points ยท Posted at 18:37:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is a really cool assignment, it must have been really interesting to watch them all at the end, having poured over all the footage yourself to find your own angle on it.
It was an intro class at community college actually, my own effort was honestly crap but the best one was a guy that was way above our level just taking college for the paper that says he can do what he can do. He cut it into a horror movie trailer complete with jump scare and vo. I forget what his note said :P
It makes you more competitive. Some employers won't hire you to do anything other than cleaning toilets without a college degree.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:18:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm simply talking video production.
kblaney ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:00:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From the description that appeared to be a single class as part of a larger degree. I could easily see that class as filling a requirement in a number of art/communication degrees or even as a humanities elective in pretty much any degree.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:47:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just having a degree in anything is great to have as a backup plan. He may find another opportunity in a related field but that field may ask for a degree as a standard. A lot of fields don't even ask for a related degree. Some just look for that bachelor's and will consider you.
It's way too easy. Back in high school I had this segment on the morning anmouncements where I basically just went around asking people stuff. I asked one girl a question and she had less than 10 seconds of "Um..." while deciding her answer. Edited it to make it seem like she took a REALLY long time to decide.
[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 19:48:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
However long I wanted, really. IIRC class ended at 9:21 and we'd put announcements on at 9:15 at the latest. If we wanted to use the whole time we could.
We just chopped it up and put other things in between. I think we made asking her maybe the 4th or 5th response. We took a few seconds of her ums and then put in a couple more people responding. Back to the ums and even more people responding. Just kept repeating until it felt like she was trying to decide for a long time.
Through judicious video editing I made a colleague look like a genius with his shit together, and an audience of five hundred people at a sales conference cheered at the end of his segment. It was eye opening.
Skip forward to 2:00 to avoid the "what is video editing?" and get to the bit where he shows how to take a single set of raw reality-TV footage and tell any story you want.
It doesn't even need to be a blatant lie, as in the example. Simply adjusting the reactions shown (or not) and the order events are portrayed in (even if you preserve the timeline) will create an effect.
It's CRAZY easy. In HS i had an internship that involved video editing at a "leadership camp" for middle schoolers.
We were making a video retrospective thing for the camp once and we went around telling them to "make your favorite animal noise" then made the video seem like we asked "what does your roommate sound like when the snore"
Just like Statistics. I remember getting an assignment in my Computer Science class in high school where we were given a record of grades in all the classes in the school (all of them were anonymous, but grade levels were attached to them) for several years in a row and were told to use that along with publicly available information about average test scores and pass rates at our school to analyze how our school was doing, whether comparing our school to other schools, our school now to our school in the past, or even comparing how different grade level students or students in different classes do relative to each other. Since it was an intro level class at a public school, most people churned out the mininum amount of effort required to pass the assignment, but a group of us that probably should've skipped straight to APCS instead worked together to figure out all sorts of different ways you can spin the same information. It was crazy how you can spin the same information in such different ways, and how easy it was to do it.
I want to do that. I would love to be a film or tv editor. I love that if you put shots together one way you completely change the impression of the audience, combined with well-placed music.
Yeah, but that's because they do due diligence before signing, not because it's staged for the show. This sort of thing happens with non televised business deals too, of course.
Yeah, I worked for a company that was on the Canadian equivalent, Dragon's Den. They didn't make it on the show but they were meeting with the Dragons for about 4 hours.
I heard some people take 3 hours in there and they do background checks and everything. I am amazed at how they can edit it down to 10 minutes roughly for the show.
I saw one of the episodes on how they make it (Beyond the Tank? Something like that) and they said the hardest part was when the contestant first walks in they have to stand there for 5 (10?) minutes without talking so they can get the lighting right. Someone was saying that was the most intimidating part of the whole experience.
The biggest difference by far is that they do diligence on the companies after the show and often take the money back.
It's less of an issue now, with better companies, but early in the show many of the investments wouldn't stand after the Sharks reviewed the company financials.
tfresca ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And the sharks can back out after the fact.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why wouldn't it be? The only downside the sharks have is that they have to see projects that are appealing to the viewers (instead of some super profitable formatting software from a niche area of accounting or something), and they can always invest in other things on their own time. Meanwhile, everything they invest in automatically gets a ton of free marketing and an initial customer base simply because it's on Shark Tank. Not to mention they probably get a generous salary just for appearing.
However, they also have a tendency to purposely put on awful inventions (like boardgames) clearly to make fun of them, when there was no intention of a deal...I mean, it's not fake, but it's sure cruel and disingenuous
In the same vein, i'be read that deliberations on a show like Food Network's Chopped can sometimes take up to 90 minutes for the judges to figure out which dish was the worst.
I wish someone paid me to eat food and then argue which was the worst dish..
Yep. Had a coworkers daughter on dragons den (the original version of shark tank from Canada) and besides a few edits for dramatics, it was completely legit. She didn't get the deal:(
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:48:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not only that but plenty of deals fall through after they have agreed to invest.
Many, many times the Sharks have to pull out once they start due diligence on what seemed like a good opportunity.
Pretty late, but I had a professor who worked on the show as well as the Canadian version. Apparently a very small percentage of the handshaked "deals" actually go through. There's a lot that can happen after the investors have their people do some more homework on the companies.
Xenuear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:00:40 on September 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have spoken directly to Damon John. He said the shortest pitch they ever received was 18 minutes, and the longest was over 4 hours. Some how they actually managed to get 10 minutes of showable footage out of that 18 minute pitch, wouldn't say which product it was though.
bsbbtnh ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 23:25:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The 18 minute pitch could have been one of the small segments they use. Some episodes they show 3-4 pitches within a couple minutes before one of the commercial breaks, usually all rejects.
Also, even though a deal is made on the show, afterwards is different. The shark's lawyers and accountants do a thorough audit on the contestants business, then an extensive contract is drawn up, and usually months later they finish the deal. A LOT of the deals fall through before that point. Sometimes they'll even show the deal falling through on the show, as an update.
Fall through. Not only are many people simply not able to come to terms with the agreement, many people use the shark tank for a quick "15 minutes of fame" and have no interest in making a deal the entire time.
I've seen this on dragons den too, how the dragons caught the pitchers out with their "15 minutes of fame" scam-if-you-will. It's funny sometimes to see the pitchers freeze up and then straight out go flush and deny it.
bduddy ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:43:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not hard to tell when a guy just wants a 10-minute ad on primetime TV. I think the producers reserve the right to take like 2.5% to dissuade that, but still...
I mean, that's how it works with real VC pitches, too. You get an agreement in principle at the pitch meeting and then you have to make the real deal where the devil is in the details.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:08:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably the bluetooth guy who wanted to surgically install the device in your ear. He didnt really have a plan, just that idea
When I was doing broadcast work โ this was for broadcast news, but it's a good rule for most things โ we held to the 7:1 ratio. For every 1 unit of footage you NEED, shoot 7 units to have a good selection. If my producer needs B-roll for a script that plans to run on a 2 minute segment, I need to capture near 15 minutes of footage to make sure I have a safe amount of footage to use.
That's honestly why I still watch the show with my roommates. Reality TV doesn't interest me, but catching all the nuanced editing is fun. Like seeing how they are able to mask a 10 minute cut and being able to transition two completely different sections together. Especially interesting knowing it's all real, since that's what turns me off from shows like Pawn Stars or the gold hunting shows... I can't tell what's real and what's scripted.
Editing is easier when you can script the scene however you like.
Wow, how do some of these people have enough to talk about for that long? Seems like the succinct pitches in the show are enough, I wonder what else they say for the full, unedited pitch.
Probably more details on their business plans and products? How have they been trying to grow, how will the money be used, product changes/improvements, expected sales, distribution, potential problems/solutions, marketing plans, benefits of the partnership, control over the business, etc.
I can definitely see those things taking quite a bit of time to discuss, especially for the more detailed proposals.
I'm not entirely sure about this but I think if you are on the show you can't disclose certain information about the episode before it airs due to non-disclosure agreements.
grubas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was two different little DIY things that popped up at the same time. Ice soap was basically a bar of soap and ice on the bottom, so you could soap up and wash down with one thing. 2am chili was...chili that you just cooked overnight. They were mocked quite a bit.
Shit got crazy and somebody went and combined the two into ice chili.
Haha what? I was just referencing the "netflix and chill" joke that went around for a while, but that's interesting! Thanks!
grubas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, but I had no clue what the fuck Netflix and chill meant. I meant it as drink some beer and watch Netflix. Found out why some people gave me weird looks.
Just told you because I saw your account was young enough to have missed it.
I only caught the tail end of it, but someone started up what seems to be a successful hot sauce business after a bunch of redditors encouraged him to do so.
There was a post a while ago of him sending out the first major shipment of bottles.
bsbbtnh ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:35:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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"And what's stopping me from opening up a cumpeting business and undercutting you?"
"We add value by cumming on the objects before we send them out. Plus we have a monopoly on Reddit, and any product copying us would be downvoted to oblivion."
"I'll give you $10,000 for a 3.50% royalty, and 30% equity. And if you accept, we are definitely not shaking hands."
One of the people on the show said that there is a disclosure period of up to three months, and that the investor basically vanished and gave them nothing. I have heard also that they don't hand a check over like a week later, that there is lawyers and contracts and it can take 6 months to do the deal and by then the business could collapse.
I'm pretty sure you can disclose the product but not the outcome. I had a friend go on shark tank earlier this year and he was able to say what he was pitching.
Not that the show shouldn't have the right to do that, but in this particular show's case, it seems kind of silly. For something like The Bachelor, revealing the outcome before it airs would be really detrimental to the ratings, but with a show like Shark Tank, I don't think anybody watches it to see whether or not they get the deal, but rather just to see the cool products.
I doubt it, you're not even guaranteed a deal when they make it on the show. They're not dumb, there's a lot more research into a product that they need to do before they can commit massive amounts of money.
Yeah. They do due diligence after the show before they invest. But ABC doesn't want to give out any details about the show (even though it wouldn't affect anything).
According to the clause, all contestants were required to give Finnmax, Shark Tank's production company, either 2 percent of their profits or 5 percent equity in their company. This rule applied regardless of the deal struck with investors, and all contestants since Season One were obliged to agree to it.
Then I saw that Mark Cuban gave their lawyers an ultimatum. Remove the equity clause or he wasn't coming back. Now companies appearing on the show don't have to cough up a percentage of their company to the production company just for appearing.
A guy I knew in college was also on it, but it was one of the most panned proposals they ever had on the show. His business partner threatened to punch out one of the sharks on air.
Ugh--Mr. Wonderful seems to be the absolutely worst one to make deals with. "Listen, you pay me 50 cents of every item sold for perpetuity, and I'll give you 24k and you may call me once every 6 months."
Shark's Tank is a bit different. The concept is the same, but the structure is changed:
Fewer pitches per episode
Bigger personalities on the show (people like Mark Cuban who were household names even before appearing... relatively few people in Canada new O'Leary before DD, unless you were a regular BNN watcher)
Less joke pitches (the shitty ones that the producers know will fail but are good for a lark) on the US one
The US one does background on the pitchers -- there's a kind of promotional video that maybe shows them talking, their family, a bit about the business and such. Unlike in Canada where it's just an oral pitch in the den
Yeah, how they cut it has a huge effect on how it is perceived.
I know a guy who was on Dragon's Den up in Canada, and they took a part with him listening to a question and showed it right after a question was asked in order to make it look like he was just standing around (it was supposed to look like he was unable to answer the question, but it just looked like he was listening).
Shark Tank is not your average show. For the most part, its the real deal. Its real business people with money on the line. You dont even get on Shark Tank until your product has some real potential.
I've heard on Dragons Den, the Canadian version, that occasionally, they'll take a venture they are already interested in, and bring them on the show to pitch it for the publicity and pretend it's the first time they're hearing it. Is there any truth to that?
Edit: sorry op, I forgot you said your friend was on it, so you'd have about as much access to info as anyone. But if there is someone who can answer, I'm still curious!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I want to know if he is actually a complete asshat or not. He doesnt seem like he would be considering he made a fortune off of a children's learning company...
a family member of mine was one a relatively famous episode of the show. He felt extremely dissapointed in the editing of the show. He is an ivy league educated inventor with a quality product. And because he didn't like the deals being offered, he was edited to look like a total dunce. we are no longer supposed to talk about it at family gatherings.
A local food truck was on Shark Tank trying to get a restaurant. It's all real. This food truck is a local legend, well loved and delicious, and does great business. The sharks wanted to invest to the point that they would be in control of major decisions including branding (suggesting they changed the name/logo which is iconic in town).
The Lone Wolf (food truck) guys basically said "We do well enough at home, the only setback without you guys us it will take a little longer so you can fuck right off." A few months later their brick and mortar location opens, they jave a second truck operating, and they are absolutely killing it businesswise.
I had a friend, whose company was on Shark Tank and they took the deal with one of the sharks. They were portrayed well on the show and most everyone on the panel were impressed with their product, though only one wanted to invest. Afterward, they couldn't come to terms on the details of the deal and they parted ways. I got the impression that the shark was really all that committed to being involved.
Yeah we had a couple of Shark Tank people come into my class when I took entrepreneurship, one of them was the lady from Send a Ball and she said that she wasn't aware she needed a specific amount of capital to request so she made something up right before going in there. but both people confirmed it was real
I had a friend go on, and when I watched the segment I saw them get railed. Horribly. Like the most painfully insulting I've ever seen the sharks be (maybe felt it more cause I knew the girl). I won't name the product cause how bad I felt watching.
But my friend's overall experience was a positive one. They were hard on em, but there was also a lot of nicer and helpful, constructive stuff talked about. It was just edited to be a hard No. Even with the nasty stuff said, they got a huge bump in sales after the episode aired.
Yes, I know a couple than appeared on Dragon's Den Canada (a Canadian version of Shark's Tank that preceded it and also featured Kevin O'Leary) and made a deal. It ended up falling apart during due diligence (there were some IP problems), but by all accounts everything was real and before shit fell apart, it reached a sophisticated level with lawyer and accountants reviewing the business.
They did say how most of the pitch got cut out, and the editing created more tension than really existed -- but that's just TV. Real enough for me.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On the UK one (Dragon's Den), they apparently use heat lamps above the contestant to make them sweat and get nervous. Other than that it's extremely edited.
My wife's friend was on the Shark Tank show about two years ago. He runs one of the first legal medicinal pot farms in Canada. He's doing very well and it's a license to print money, but he went onto the show to improve his expansion and get a backer because it's scary going alone and I think they asked him.
They seriously could not get past "so you grow pot?", and even in the edited portion that's all they were asking.
So, no deal. He's still printing money, even with the competition.
One of my good friends is currently in contact with Shark Tank to sell his prototype, and yes, everything so far seems 100% legit.
Dank94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i knew some guys who were on dragon's den (the canadian version) twice. The first time they sold an app that went viral after the show, and the second time they had a media company they sold just recently. seems legit
yoguy2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It used to be that the show itself or the producers or whoever would get 10% of every company that appeared on the show no matter what, that was part of the deal for being on the show. Apparently, Cuban thought that was BS and now they don't do that anymore. I know people who were on the show while that policy was in effect and people who were just recently on after that policy was changed.
I've had 2 friends who were separately on the Canadian version called Dragons Den (where Mr. Wonderful started). One got a deal, the other didnt. The one who got the deal ended up stepping away from it after doing their due diligence and seeing the actual contract. The one who didnt get a deal is more successful than the one that did. But both say it was very real.
One of my employer's clients was on Shark Tank. Don't know what the filming/interview process was like vs. what aired as I didn't work on that client, but confirm that it's all real- they did get funded by Robert Herjavec and the company is very successful and growing.
I know a guy who has a lot of friends that try to get onto Shark Tank. A lot of them try to do it without the intention of actually getting a deal. They just want the exposure from being on TV. Apparently the Shark Tank people run into that a lot and will turn you away on the spot if they think that's what you're doing.
I really wish they would release bonus footage of entire pitches, even if they only did one or two every season it would be cool to see.
flmbstn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:29:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard that the opposite is true, based on information from a previous contestant. Only a fraction of deals that happen on screen come to fruition, and the sharks are hardly involved beyond providing money (no mentoring or ongoing support). The show pays companies to come on the "where are they now" episodes and claim the sharks have been crucial to their success. Its true the sessions are longer (1-2 hours) and the "deal" isn't scripted, but make no mistake the show is made for TV and what happens in episodes isn't what happens in real life.
I worked on Shark Tank, and here's the scoop: On the show, they give a certain deal, but in real life, it is usually much less, but still an actual deal.
Ex: I'll give you 50,000 dollars for 10% of your company
Actual: They give them $3,000 for 2%
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a friend on Cash In The Attic in the UK. The idea is that some antique dealers and so on will scout around in your attic/garage/shed and "find" valuable items to sell.
They found precisely fuck all in my friend's house, so they pulled some paintings and a vase out of the van, "found" them, then asked him to go and get changed so they could film a segment from "after the sale".
It all seems like a complete waste of time, aside from the couple of hundred quid they gave him.
If the cost of being known to be faking stuff is less than the cost of scouting to see if there's good stuff before sending a film crew... That's capitalism!
[deleted] ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 22:13:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, it's purpose is entertainment, not actual discovery of artifacts.
No one's watching archeologists brush dirt all day.
The most fake thing I've heard about American Pickers is that Danny only joined when the show was pitched. They obviously have some fake storylines in the show "The boys won't let me turn on the A/C", etc. But I believe that a lot of what they do is moderately legit.
I assume that if they have enough duds with no gems in sight, they call it a day and film a faked segment. I mean, if 90% of your footage is unairable, then you're not gonna have enough of it to fill a show.
If you ask them to come by your place, they will ask you to take countless pictures so they will already know everything you have, but then act surprised when they see things.
That's how it's done in Storage Wars too. Sometimes they find interesting stuff, but other times they just pull bullshit things that look cool to make the episode worthwile.
I knew that show was staged when they aired that episode where they 'find' a vintage dodgem/bumper car that had been converted to run on batteries. They pull the cover off, and hey presto; it turns on and they can drive it! Aside from the fact that if you have spent thousands of dollars and a shitload of time restoring something like that you would invest a few minutes to pull the battery out after you put it in long-term storage, everyone knows that if you leave your car sitting for a while the battery will be no good after a couple of months. I still watch such shows, but only in conjunction with the skepticism they deserve
Of course. For example the episode where they find paintings worth one million dollars is clearly not staged,but the ones where they find random bullshit like two diamond rings in a box with only old cheap clothes.
Reminds me of an episode of Storage Wars where they happened to find a binder of Magic: The Gathering cards and in it was a bunch of relatively new cards that were mostly junk(price wise) but sitting on top of it, between the pages of the binder was a black lotus. Card worth hundreds/thousands.
It's the same thing with those Storage Unit auction shows where they pull that one neat item out to go get in appraised. 99% chance that item was planted.
Apparently this happens in storage wars - the producer is left alone with the locker that one of the cast bid on and won, and surprise surprise, something odd is found that needs to be looked at further and is worth a pretty penny. Faking is one thing, but helping the cast by juicing their lockers is dishonest to the regular bidders.
In American Pickers sometimes they don't find anything. Not the entire episode because they go to like 3 or 4 properties per episode, but happens they go somewhere that is full of trash or sometimes they visit someone that don't want to sell anything.
That sounds like the most comforting genre of T.V. ever.
[deleted] ยท 908 points ยท Posted at 17:28:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Cash In The Attic, Bargain Hunt, Antiques Roadshow. Perfect for when you're hungover and just want to switch your brain off and mong out in front of the telly.
My favourite was the short-lived BBC series Trust Me, I'm A Dealer where some twat in a tweed suit would take people's antiques and then swap them for more and more expensive antiques and try to make a profit.
It was hilarious because the presenter would lose their money 90% of the time and just shrug it off by going, "Well, that's always the chance you take with antiques".
Then he would casually drive off down the road in his Aston Martin while this poor elderly couple try to put on a brave face as they say goodbye to that holiday home in the Peak District they've always wanted.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:36:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Antiques Roadshow.
Did you see that this weekend? Off. The. Hook. That guy who found a 500 year old coin with a metal detector. After 20 minutes. After borrowing it from his brother who hadn't found anything in months. Heh.
Trust Me, I'm A Dealer where some twat in a tweed suit
Hey! That's not just any twat in a tweed suit, that's Paul fucking Martin of Flog It! fame.
Without a doubt, the man is one of the smuggest cunts on television and one of the most reviled presenters on the rogues gallery that is BBC daytime.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:02:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I knew I recognised him from somewhere. I just couldn't think of the programme :)
Nixie9 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 20:52:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I worked on one of those shows, even the filming is bloody lovely, making cups of tea for old ladies while they show you their stamp collection or their grannys paintings, I left feeling like a had 50 new nannas.
I know a guy who was on Bargain Hunt with his partner. It was apparently very legit. I guess the concept of the show makes it easy to do for real though.
They actually won! Think they came in at a few hundred quid profit. He maintains that they were probably the only people who won bargain hunt to immediately spend the winnings on drugs and partying!
Antiques Roadshow is 100% legit though, I went to one when they came by my area a while back, its exactly like you see on tv. They only turn the cameras on for more valuable items though, usually when the appraiser has to get up and do a bit of research or ask around with the other experts.
I went to one here about five years ago when it came to town. Huge lines of folks with weirdass shit, but everyone had a good time! Met the toy expert, the host guy, and the guy with the long hair who always wore double-breasted suits. Turned out that the stuff I brought along was worth more than I imagined. I had fun.
m00fire ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:14:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
60 Minute Makeover as well.
Nothing like seeing the front room of a chav couple and their 12 kids get decorated in zebra stripes then seeing the carnage when the kids cry, the husband kicks off and the wife tries to pretend she likes it. Fucking quality telly.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:21:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, and they make everything out of MDF and crap flimsy plastic which is only going to break and fall apart a week later.
Bargain Hunt is safe! My mother was on it with her best mate, she won the golden gavel and everything! Not rigged and she left feeling very chuffed with herself.
I don't really have anything to contribute, I just wanted to thank you for teaching me the phrase "mong out". Never heard that one before, and I love it.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:22:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The word 'mong' has another, very offensive, meaning so be careful when using it.
I don't know about you but when I watch TV like that I usually just turn off my brain and barely register what's going on. Seems like tarding out is just the right word for it
Bargain Hunt is always on in the student common room around lunchtime. It's become something of a ritual. You'll be half way through a sandwich or a game of cards when someone with a view of the tv will suddenly cry out: "It's on!"
At this point every head turns to the same point on the wall as the opening credits roll. When the presenter is introduced there's either a loud cheer, and chants of "Tim! Tim!" or disappointed groans, if it's one of the other ones.
After this, everyone goes back to what they were doing before, although occasionally someone will glance up and wonder aloud: "what the fuck were they thinking? that'll never sell!"
Antiques Roadshow broke my heart a number of years back. My sister in law's father had been a geology professor who taught in universities all over the place. She spent her childhood in Saudi Arabia, Nicaragua, Yemen, turkey, you name it, he taught there. He and his wife were ardent history buffs, and amassed quite a collection over the years. Most of the stuff was bought at bazaars and road side stands, which they would have evaluated and most ended up being donated to museums. Except for one thing: It is a stele, about 4' high, four sided, made from limestone. It has cuneiform writing on all sides, along with some pictographs. They have had it looked at a couple of times. The consensus is it is very, very old, and is rules/laws written from a Goddess worshiping society. My brother and his wife own it now.
So, Antiques Roadshow was coming to town and one of the advertised experts was someone with knowledge of ancient Middle Eastern artifacts. So we hauled that stone in. It is very, very heavy. The guy looked at it. "Amazing" he said, "never saw anything this old, or this rare, or this wonderful!!" he said. "Awesome story!" he said. "Absolutely Priceless!" he said. Then he said: "Too bad I can't have this shown on the Roadshow. I have a plane to catch, and don't have time to film you". And he left. So, poop on the Antiques Roadshow.
I got all of my wisdom teeth removed and promptly watched Antiques Roadshow all day long. I was completely out of it- gauze stuffed in my mouth like a chipmunk. I know at one point my dad told me I needed to eat something if I wanted to feel less sick, so I ate vanilla pudding. I said, "Wow, I do feel better!" and promptly threw up into the bucket next to me and passed out. That show is amazing entertainment when you're out of it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:14:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do shift work. When I am on nights, I set my alarm to watch Bargain Hunt and have my breakfast at the same time. There is something quite reassuring about Tim Wonnacott and the old ladies in their red and blue fleeces.
I don't find anything comforting about children going to their parent's house and going 'these are your dad's old war medals, aren't they mum? Expert, what do you think they're worth?' on the basis they want a holiday in Norfolk, or Timothy wants guitar lessons.
My father is a dealer in a particular variety of memorabilia, and also fairly well known as an authenticator of said memorabilia. He was on a show featuring storage units a few years ago. The show crew peppered a storage unit with some of my father's own collectibles, the hosts "found" them, then brought them back to my father to be appraised. He then offered to purchase his own items back from the hosts.
[deleted] ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 22:44:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your vague description of the memorabilia makes me believe it's probably Nazi swag.
[deleted] ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 23:43:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To auction a unit in Alabama takes about three months. First they have to get a month behind, then a month grace, finally documented collection efforts and legal notices in the newspaper. After that you can auction the unit. For my uncles company the auction was something like the first Tuesday of the month.
Before the show he had about 12 people who came every month and knew the drill. Buy the unit that day, pay cash, and have the unit empty by close of business. What they paid for it really didn't matter. Just have it ready to rent by close of business that day.
After that show came out tons of people would show up thinking they would get rich. So they would drive the prices up some. But alot of them would bid, and then not have the cash on hand. Got to reauction those next month. A lot of them would win, pay, and then when they didn't find a sack of cash or a chest full of gold coins, would just abandon the junk. Meaning the company had to go through the whole auction process again.
A lot of them would win, pay, and then when they didn't find a sack of cash or a chest full of gold coins, would just abandon the junk. Meaning the company had to go through the whole auction process again.
That seems like a good thing. They can get paid twice or more for the same locker.
The point isn't to get paid for the abandoned property, the point is to get the shit out of there so that they can start renting the unit to a new customer ASAP.
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 00:20:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The average customer for a mini warehouse circa 2002 spent $700 over the life of a rental. These auctions would go for $200-$300 a unit before expenses of trying to collect, document, and advertise the sale. So you are indeed getting paid twice, but over that time you are unable to rent that unit so you miss out on a potential rental that is much more valuable.
Keep in mind that $700 is the average. You would be amazed how many people rent a mini warehouse for 20-30 years because they are running a business out of it or using it to store records. When a unit is tied up and the facility is near full, you risk missing out on one of those clients which means thousands.
The auction process almost never makes up even the back rent owed by the delinquent tenant.
wtf if someone bids more than they have on hand they should have like 1 hour to get the money to you or be banned from ever coming back and have to pay 100$ fee for having to reauction it.
Seems like if the person didn't have the cash on hand, it should be offered to the second highest bidder, and so on down the line. The second and third may not have the cash either, if they bid more on later units, but that would at least be more likely to get rid of the units that day.
Not much of what you see on TV is true, man. Except for Barney. He's actually the last living dinosaur and he just happens to get along great with kids.
Simmery ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:28:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I realize that. I am just surprised that so many people are willing to lie at the drop of a hat. I guess I'd like to think better of people.
The point of those shows isn't to try and tell an authentic story. It's to share facts about a variety of objects. The method of 'discovering' is just for flavor. The honest alternative is to just wander around a junk shop or museum and list off facts of items. Instead they present the historic information wrapped up in a fun narative of whatever one is being used.
Simmery ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:04:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The honest alternative is to just wander around a junk shop or museum and list off facts of items.
Yes, something like Antiques Roadshow, which is a program I really enjoy and (reportedly) completely authentic. These shows aren't interested in presenting fun factoids of history or educating anyone; let's be real here. This is about ratings. And drama gets you ratings.
I mean it's not really lying, it's acting. It's no different than Neil Patrick Harris playing Barney on How I Met Your Mother. He's gay in real life, but he plays a womanizer on the show. It's a role he's playing, and it's the same thing with the guy on the reality show.
I swear I didn't intend to make references to two different Barneys, that was just the first thing I thought of in both cases, for some reason.
Simmery ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:50:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When it's presented as "reality", then acting is lying. I'm sure you can find the fine print somewhere that states that the show makes shit up, but most viewers don't realize that and these shows don't present it that way. That still counts as a lie in my book. We're not talking about an episode of Star Trek here. People know Captain Kirk isn't actually flying through space.
But the general viewers aren't interested in picking up show that's a story about some people that buy storage units or try to get along in a house. People watch it because they think it's real and like to think that they could be in that position.
Mostly, I think was just excited that someone was offering to put him on tv. He didn't really wrestle too much with the moral implications of stacking a storage unit. Plus it got a bit of recognition for his business, so perhaps there was some selfish motivation as well.
oh oh! I was on that show too! we didn't have that, some of our stuff was somewhat valuable so we went to auction. however they'd set up the premise that me and the family were on the show so they could convert the attic into a bedroom for me. well after the house filming and before the auction we discovered the attic could not legally be converted, old house, not 100% structually sound, but they filmed the 'builders' coming in to start work on the conversion anyway.
Sorry to say that this is just untrue. I worked on Cash in the Attic for three years. The process is this...people apply, lots of people. They describe what they have. If it sounds useful, a member of the production team goes to their house to check what they have. If they have fuck all, they go into the discard pile. If not, then they might make the subject of a show if they have an interesting story.
Despite the fact that working on a UK show you are very specifically not allowed to fake things, and the procedures to prevent this are even more stringent when making a BBC show (no such rules apply in the US), no way on earth would the team ever turn up to a house cold. Everything is researched before the expense of sending a camera to crew to a house is incurred, and the potential fall out of faking a show - the BBC cancels a lucrative contract and refuses to use the production company henceforth - is just not worth it. It's far easier, and less financially risky to make shows like Cash in the Attic without cheating.
"Did you know you had Van Gogh's 'Sunflowers' in your loft hiding behind those Wombles posters from 1977? What a find!"
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:06:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I work in the Antiques Business, 99% of Bargain Hunt or antiques roadshow is bullshit, prices and all that. Great to learn the history of items and usage in previous eras.
gruffi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:49:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
winch25 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:07:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cash in the Van. The prequel where a couple of dodgy geezers drive round in a van and hide shit in people's attics without being caught. 'What the fuck are you doing in my house?' Trying to hide this painting of some flowers we found in a skip'
Sounds like a rip off of American Pickers, but I bet it had to be attics because of a lack of sprawling acreage in the UK. I doubt you find too many people in the UK with huge plots of land they own with items strewn about and random barns full of stuff.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:58:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cash In The Attic is probably older than your country m8
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:40:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Errm you mean American Pickers was a rip off of cash in the attic. The first time American Pickers aired was in 2010 while cash in the attic has been around for years before that. Easy way to remember this is its always usually American shows stealing or remaking British shows, not the other way round
That's what I thought until I saw 'Pawn Stars'. I feel so much better knowing PS is faked because the thought of people desperate for cash getting screwed over so hard makes me lose faith in mankind.
American Pickers finds small antique National Cash Register at some sort of theatre camp: "It's not one of those big elaborate ones but people still collect them, we'll give you [half of what we can sell it for]"
Someone brings a big antique National Cash Register to Pawn Stars: "Nobody wants the big elaborate ones, they are too heavy and take up too much space. You don't want to have to carry it back to your car do you? Here, have some magic beans"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At least on pawn stars... you go into a pawn shop, you know what you're getting into. You know the pawn shop buys low and sells high. It's a legit negotiation (or would be if the show was actually real.)
American Pickers just seems like they're robbing ignorant people.
True, but I find AP gives them more money than PS for similar items and are relatively open about how much they can sell an item for.
"How much for this thingo?"
"$50"
"$50?! How about $35?"
"Nah"
"Damn" *aside to camera "I really like the thingo, but at $50, the margin was just not there for us. Hopefully Billy-Bob's prices on his other things are lower or this pick could be a bust"
Pawn Stars (ignoring the fake/real debate) talks the item down and uses tricks:
"How much would you like for it?"
"$100"
*sneer/incredulous look "How did you come up with that number?!"
"I have seen similar ones on the internet going for $100"
"Yeah, but were they actually selling?"
"I don't know"
"The best I can do is $20"
"Really? If that's all it's worth I'll just take it back home"
"You don't want to have to take it back home. Think of why you wanted to sell it in the first place. What is the least you will take?"
"I can't let it go for less than $75"
"So you wont take $25?"
"No"
"What about $30?"
"I don't think I could do it for that. My grandfather had it for all these years"
"Think of what you need the money for. Didn't you say you wanted to buy your daughter dancing shoes? You could buy a nice set of dancing shoes for $30"
"Yeah, I suppose"
"Look, the best I can do is $35"
"You can't go to $40?"
"Not a penny more" *co-worker appears: "It's a fair price, you should take it" *both start nodding their heads vigorously
"Yeah, ok" *handshake
Pawn dealer, aside to camera "I can't believe I got this thingo for just $35. These are so hot right now and I have NEVER seen a blue one before, especially in this condition. I will have no trouble selling this to the next thingo fan who comes into the store"
IMHO in order if rip-off-ness I would say Hardcore Pawn, Pawn Stars, American Pickers
Considering the age of many buildings in the UK, it's more likely people would have older and more valuable stuff in their attic/basement, than what Americans might have strewn over their land.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That will be to see if there is anything of value and then the experts go back after the show tell them 'That original Picasso you have sat in your attic, it is only worth ยฃ3, I will give you ยฃ4 for it as you were such a good person to work with on the show....'
That's all they give him for the painting and vase? Sounds like he's bad at negotiating.
BizMoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its for the old boys and girls mainly I'd say.......cup of tea, bit of cake (a Viennese whirl perhaps?), some antiques......our Mavis has had a lovely day!
I always wondered this because there's always something amazing, yet the house is shit normally with a really fucking expensive cutlery set or some shit. Still, awesome show
There was this arizona house buyer/seller show that had me hooked for a bit... until I realized the people were just a bit too over the top. The houses were so conveniently goldmines or complete duds... and then they started to find stuff in them that no way would they consistently find in houses.
Pools tables? Stuffed raccoon? Vintage hair dryer? Yeah, I would buy maybe one of those but you're starting to find them in otherwise completely empty houses. They felt planted, and that got me thinking that the houses were also probably just filmed for the segments and never actually bought or sold.
By god. It's easier and less expensive to fake a show than it is to actually do it.
Their goal is to create drama. "Reality" is just the stuff they dip the paintbrush into. They use it to paint whatever the hell they want. Why? Because the goal is to create a show that people will watch, so it needs drama. If anyone here ever goes on a reality show and is surprised that they changed your story to create suspense or faked the ending to save time or emphasized the scummy part that you thought was irrelevant, then you are indeed unwise to the ways of the world.
Question about that:
It seems like there's always something structural that prevents the homeowners from getting what they really want, and that the structural things should have been found in the planning stage rather than during construction. How'd what they got match what they actually wanted?
Oh yeah, and usually people want six extra bedrooms and a hot tub in their kitchen, but they settle for heated floors in the basement bathroom.
There was a show on Discovery Channel in the US last year called "Lost And Found With Mike & Jesse" where these two guys would track down long lost antiques that had sentimental value to people.
In the very first episode of the show, a World War 2 veteran and his family asked them to find a Japanese flag that he had signed 70 years ago with dozens of other veterans while serving overseas. Mike & Jesse found it and brought it to them. (trailer video)
The truth is that a lady in Pennsylvania found the flag in a box of old rags a couple years ago and started tracking down all the names on it. One of the names was my grandfather and he is actually the only one who remembers signing it. He just isn't in as good of physical health as the guy they had in the TV show.
The flag has gotten a lot of media attention and Discovery Channel interviewed the lady who found it saying that they wanted to do a special story on the flag. She thought that it would be some kind of documentary. They didn't tell her until later that it would be a fake reality show. Here's a news story about the true story.
I was doing a boot sale with my mate, we were getting rid of stuff from Uni and his live in landlord (older guy) gave us some stuff to sell as well on his behalf, and lo and behold they were filming insert day time antiques auction house show name here and one of the producers spotted this ugly bronze statue from his landlord and then the expert for one of the teams came over and had a look and then with my mate they agreed a price, then set up this whole scenario about bartering, backstory about how my mate came to acquire it, why he's selling it, and he had to be tough with the negotiations etc etc.
It still repeated on one of the Sky channels, my mate does all the hard work and i'm just there drinking a cup of tea.
I always knew that shit was faked!!! It was always 'we want ยฃ500/1000 to go to Australia to see our grandchildren or whatever..... then they have a house 'full' of antiques. If you can afford to have things of value like that lying around, I think you could afford the damn plane tickets.
I love that they bother to look at all, just in case. If they're willing to scam the viewership why not just scam the whole thing and bung the fake crap in straight away?
I was on a show geared towards pre-teens and teenagers that tried to imitate fear factor on YTV. They had us compete in various unique athletic competitions and other things. Most of it was surprisingly real! We actually did compete. Our scores were based on our performance in the task. The one thing that wasn't "real" was that the episode made it look like everything happened in a day, when in reality, it took about five days to film.
Overall, it was a really cool experience that I wouldn't trade for the world.
I was on Uh-Oh! as a kid. I can confirm several things for you:
It was not scripted, just 22 minutes of running around doing the things. They ran a tight ship, and did several episodes one after another. The winners were not pre-determined and we actually got the prizes in order of our success.
The editing didn't do that much, there was an error in the first third in one of the episodes previous to mine (where I was in the audience) where I think someone yelled one of the answers, and they just started the whole episode over.
Wink Yahoo is super tall in person, and the Announcer is really nice. The Punisher does not talk, but does give high fives.
Was an audience member on Uh Oh as a kid! Still have the blue team shirt kicking around somewhere! I definitely remember it being mostly off the floor as you say. In the two episodes shot while I was there, there was very little that they had to go back and re-film to "touch up" after! Tons of prizes for the audience in the waiting room too, gotta do something to keep a room full of excited kids under control! Lots of bop-its were given away haha
This! ^
I was on Uh-Oh as an audience member when they did the offsite stuff for the Slime Tour. If I remember right, they'd go to your school and audition to get a few kids to do the challenges, and the in-studio kids would bet on who they thought would win, and then they'd roll the tape of the Slime Tour bit for that episode. We stood outside in the rain for hours, and they shot two different bits - a disco themed obstacle course and another with an under the sea theme. Shaun Majumder was the cast member standing right in front of our group, and the whole time he was just up to eleven. He tried so hard to keep us entertained and energized all afternoon. NOT an easy job. We were freezing and wet. It was pretty miserable. But getting to see some of the production of a tv show was pretty exciting for a small town Canadian kid. And those six kids who got to play... man, those challenges were pretty tough. But at least they gave all of us Hubba Bubba (bubblegum) afterward. That made up for everything.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was so upset because I always asked so go visit my aunty whenever they were in Drumheller, but it never worked out :(
The Punisher punished players by pouring slime on one contestant if their partner got the special question wrong. The 'Uh-oh!' Category on the big wheel. Also there was the 'Uh-oh! Deluxe' with more points and twice the slime. (My partner got slimed twice)
Wink Yahoo is a frighteningly tall man who may have stepped out of the world of Peewee Herman.
Wink Yahoo did an AMA a few years ago. I asked him why they never fixed the funnel that the Punisher poors the goo down, because so often the funnel was crooked and the kid barely got shimed, and he actually responded! Fucking made my year and pleased 10-year-old me!
If anyone is curious about what he said, something like: "I noticed that too but never asked questions" or along those lines. Really nice guy.
drog324 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:27:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I met Scott Yaphe (actor of Wink Yahoo) just a few months ago. I thought he was tall as a kid, but I figured that was just a matter of perspective. Nope, he was just tall.
Nice guy, had some interesting stories. Apparently there were two different actors for the punisher, one white and one black. And there was a time he and another person there (I think it was PJ Phil) were told they were going to do a one hour live show... in 4 hours. Queue a mad dash to try to prepare 60 minutes of content. They ended up beatboxing for most of it.
Slashin' Sam told me once that one of the Punishers (I think the black guy) was a complete gem, super nice to all the kids and cast members. But the other guy was a real tool.
drog324 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:47:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah the black one was way more into it. From what Scott said, the white guy wasn't bad or anything, he just viewed it as a job. Punch in, punch out. Can't really grudge him for that.
Definitely can't grudge him for that. It's nice to have another perspective on this tiny useless bit of information that I've had in the back of my head for almost 10 years, haha. #WhitePunishersMatter
Super cool to hear. In college, my on-camera presentation professor was Sam Cooke, one of the mayhem girls on Uh Oh.
She started her introduction to the class by telling us that and then went on to talk about the rest of her career. When it was over, she asked if we had any questions. We all pit our hands up. Then she asked if we had any questions unrelated to Uh Oh. Literally everyone put their hands down.
I was actually surprised to recognize one of my college professors from a game show I watched as a kid. She goes by Sam Cook these days and she does a bunch of commercial voice-over work on the side.
I went to Mohawk! Decent school, admin needs to treat the part time instructors (who make up the far majority of teaching staff, at least in the engineering department) better, but great place none the less
Not sure if she still does, but back when she taught us, she was the on-camera presentation instructor for the Television Broadcasting course. Regardless, did the students do the same thing that my class did, or was this more recently and therefore the students were well beyond Uh Oh age?
b0mmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Met her once on-set when I was in the audience, again in college, and again when my brother was seeing her.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on a couple of YTV game shows as a kid too. Clips and Video & Arcade Top 10 a couple of times. Those bastards still owe my friend an SNES copy of Ballz for being the studio audience member paired with the winning player. And Nicholas Picholas still haunts my dreams.
contestants were chained up and answered questions. If a contestant answered incorrectly, a man known as "The Punisher" would pour slime on him/her from the rafters
I'd be surprised if Uh Oh! wasn't all filmed in 1 day. The only thing they would maybe have to film on another day was when they had outdoor obstacle races for the 3 teams to place their bets on.
That was an AWESOME show. God I remember it from when I was a kid. The guy with the hockey mask who pours the goo always make my laugh if he didn't get to pour slime on someone.
I came in second place, and made enough money to buy myself a Wii! At the time, that was the single coolest thing I could have ever purchased; it had just come out and I had been wanting one since hearing about it.
No regrets. :P
I remember watching that show and I thought it was cool, but none of the episodes were ever shown in order. Kinda wished I could have been on the show, glad you had a good experience with it!
I remember it mostly from promos and watching parts of an episode when I had nothing to do. A lot of people knew about it though, in Canada at least, I don't believe anyone in America would.
I have a friend who was on a YTV show as well. It was more close to Wipeout. While the production crew loved her enthusiasm, she didn't pass the first round, but she got a good amount of screen time for someone who didn't make round 2. I think she got $100 bucks from it too. Not bad.
I have a friend who was on a YTV show as well. It was more close to Wipeout. While the production crew loved her enthusiasm, she didn't pass the first round, but she got a good amount of screen time for someone who didn't make round 2. I think she got $100 bucks from it too. Not bad.
I went to a taping for a game show. It took 12 hours to film 3 one hour episodes. They would even get "reaction shots". Such as, telling us, "everyone look surprised" "everyone look disappointed" etc.
Was on an episode of MTV Made. It wasn't super-scripted, but certain things were added to make the kids look stupid. On our episode, the producers had socks stuffed inside a kid's drums to make them sound bad, even though the kid didn't actually do that. Stuff like that, but the scripts had room for ad-libs, and the show was fine with that as long as nobody said anything too crazy or suggested anything they couldn't deliver on.
Unfortunately, a LOT of the kids on the show go back to how they were before almost immediately after filming. People can totally be who they want to be, but why apply to the show? And also, it kinda sucks when the show drops a fuckton of money on you (our episode involved paying for an appearance from Finger Eleven when they were huge) and it ends up being a waste for everything other than getting a TV episode out of it.
Unfortunately, a LOT of the kids on the show go back to how they were before almost immediately after filming. People can totally be who they want to be, but why apply to the show? And also, it kinda sucks when the show drops a fuckton of money on you (our episode involved paying for an appearance from Finger Eleven when they were huge) and it ends up being a waste for everything other than getting a TV episode out of it.
Oh man, talk about a blast from the past, I loved that show! But on the show, they had someone coaching them. Without that coach, they probably lacked the discipline to continue that momentum.
Yep. The singer in my band at the time was the coach, so we were all involved at various points, one of us would do a scene giving advice, or trying to keep the girl from crying (that was real, she was legit freaked out at the idea of changing.)
Evie68 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:52:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I found out yesterday my husband was on made! Surprisingly it never came up before yesterday. Anyway it was really fake the producers asked him to make up a story about the guy who was being made and how they were best friends form childhood. He never met the guy and didn't even talk to him the night it was filmed
I had a friend that was on Made, I was around for a good bit of the filming but only made like 10 seconds of airtime. Pretty much went as you described, most of it is real but the producers will manufacture drama to make the episode interesting. Weirdest part for me was repeating funny things we had said or did so the cameramen could get a better shot of it.
My friend actually used the professional connections he made from that show to create a successful business. Dude now lives in a mansion with $100,000+ cars and shit, so I guess it worked out quite well for him
My friend was also on Made, it was mostly real but I did get asked to do a few things for her for the cameras (I said no, though, so I wasn't on it). Funny thing is that her sister is my best friend and one of the sweetest people ever, and they somehow managed to make her look like a shallow bitch.
She still talks to one of the people who worked on her episode, though.
They came to my high school and held interviews/auditions to pick who would be the next person on the show. They ended up picking some loner freshman, but it was crazy how nice our school looked on camera...that was not the case in real life.
My brother used to produce some episodes of that show! He said he felt like shit When he made a 15 year old girl run in the rain at 5am specifically because he knew it would get her to cry
When I was in high school, one of my classmates was selected to be on MTV Made (the episode was never aired). One day, I was going to the bathroom and a camera man called me over. He asked if I knew the kid the episode would be about (I was friendly with him so I said yes) and then asked if I wanted to say a few words.
The theme here was that the kid wanted to become a DJ or something, so the camera guy told me to basically say "[Kid's name] becoming a DJ? Yeah right, that would never happen."
I guess my point here is that while there was an element of truth to this show (I did know the kid, and he was actually going through the process), they pretty much were just feeding us lines. I was supposed to have been kind of dramatic about how my classmate would never become a DJ, but really, how crazy is it to actually become a DJ?
Wasn't there one with Killer Mike? I never saw the episode, but I was at a show Mike did in Athens and he got the kid he helped up on stage and said that the kid was on his way to college and that he was on his way to doing better.
mcrib ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:56:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What is a "Finger Eleven" and when was it "huge"?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on an episode of Made, I was the "bad guy coach" of the "rival team." I didn't even realize that was how I was portrayed... I just told them I didn't want cameras interfering with the practices or the sideline, so I guess they took that personally.
They asked me to do a post game interview about the athlete but I didn't have much to say since that athlete only played in maybe 3 minutes.
I wasn't interested in being a part of this but the school I worked for wanted the PR.
A friend of mine worked as an art director on the American version of "Supernanny". She said pretty much everything was real, maybe editing together to make it a bit more dramatic, but the family interactions were genuine. And she said Jo Frost is a very sweet, warm woman who really does her best for the kids.
gpenfish ยท 3126 points ยท Posted at 15:14:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In the very first episode of Top Chef they ever filmed, Tom Colicchio flipped out because the dishes the contestants had cooked were getting cold while the film crew took "food porn" shots of them.
From then on, all the contestants have to prepare two dishes. One for the judges to sample, and one for the cameras to pan over and show the audience.
I think I saw an interview about Chopped where they said they don't take food temperature into account because it's not fair to the last people in line for judging, etc.
[deleted] ยท 618 points ยท Posted at 17:56:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How can you not take that into account? Food texture and mouthfeel changes with temp.
Apparently on cooking shows now it is quite common for the judges to just try a spoonful of this and that while the contestants are cooking, so they know how it tastes hot so they can judge it properly
How do you account for 4 people finishing cooking at the same time, but still giving the judges adequate time to eat each dish? By the time they get to the final dish it is either cold or was sitting under a heat lamp for upwards of an hour.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:02:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
An iron chef I spoke with once mentioned that he would prepare a meal specifically to be served 30 or so minutes after he prepares it. Often it will sit in an oven until the judges can taste it, depending on the show, and the chef accounts for that.
rb20s13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:33:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But if you take 30 minutes to get to mine its going to be cold as shit. Thats not my fault
I remember where a contestant complained about his ice cream melting and Ted Allen said something along the lines of "Did you tell any of our produces to put it in the fridge?" Hmm.
I read an interview that said something similar. The moment time goes off, the judges run over and sample the 4th plate that is made. Then, they eat the other 3 plates later while it's being filmed and act like that's their first time sampling it.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:11:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. Have been on chopped. Held my food in my hand for one hour as it got cold. Everyone kept telling me they don't take it into consideration- I just don't know how that's possible.
I've done quite a few of these type of shows. I'd be happy to do an AMA but I'd be nervous about what I could actually say. There's a lot of nda paperwork I've signed.
It's easy to tell that there are multiple dishes. The one they show for "food porn" is always restyled to be better looking.
What I've always wondered is if there is someone remaking the meals behind the scenes for the styled shots, or whether they reuse the same stuff and just remake the plate.
As I understand, they do the initial tasting almost immediately after the timer ends, while the extra dish is being used for the glamour shots. Then they sit down for the judging we see on camera.
They take into account if your frozen food melts because you were supposed to tell the Chopped staff to put it in a freezer (unless that part of the episode was fake too).
Masterchef AU is similar. Most of the judging on flavor is done as they walk around the room. Then they eat something fairly cold after the whole place has been cleaned and pretend that's what they're judging.
Then they eat something fairly cold after the whole place has been cleaned and pretend that's what they're judging.
That must be culinary hell. These people must have really good pokerfaces.
G8kpr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:58:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heard the same about MasterChef, because the cameras have to take so many shots of the dish in various angles, that when the Judges do a final taste, they don't knock off marks for cold food.
However, the judges to go around and sample food as it's being made, so I am pretty sure they know what your final product is going to taste like before it's done.
I think measures are taken to keep food warm or cold. I remember one episode where a guy made ice cream but didn't tell the producers that his dish needed to be refrigerated. The judges still tore into him for having melted ice cream.
sudonem ยท 1845 points ยท Posted at 16:50:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 266 points ยท Posted at 16:58:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a disclaimer at the end of Top Chef now that says producers have a say in the outcomes of challenges. So basically producers craft a narrative and judges judge according to it.
[deleted] ยท 199 points ยท Posted at 18:17:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tom Colicchio is the head judge as well as a producer, so that's not so big a problem.
Well, I feel like you have to start with the fact that the entire idea of a bunch of chefs showing up in a kitchen and competing for prizes is very contrived. Nothing about the narrative of competition cooking shows is "real" in the sense of being a naturally-occuring set of interactions. Shows like Top Chef aren't fly-on-the-wall documentaries, but rather they are staged "events" with their own set of rules for both the competition and the narrative of the show. In that context, however, very little, if any, of the show could be described as "fake." The chefs cook what you see them cook with the ingredients and equipment you see them given, and the judges eat the food that you see the chefs cook.
/u/gpenfish is correct that the chefs always make one extra dish that goes to "food porn," but this dish is factored into the rules that the chefs receive and agree to before every challenge, and the time given to the chefs for a specific challenge always takes the extra dishes into account. For these chefs, plating one additional plate isn't a factor in the quality of the dishes tasted by the judges. I guess the "food porn" plate could be considered fake, in the sense that you're not seeing the specific plate that the judges are eating when you see the nice b-roll of the plate with the on-screen label of the name of the dish.
For Quickfires, the judges taste the food within minutes after it's plated, and for Elimination Challenges the food comes straight to the table from the kitchen or serving station, so in both cases the judges are tasting the food directly after the plating process. The chefs are entirely in control of when they plate, but they can't serve anything until the time is up, (i.e. you can't serve a dish before time is called.)
As with any competition show, the producers are involved throughout the decision-making process, but on Top Chef their involvement is in the interest of making sure that the judges are talking through their decision-making process on-camera so that the audience understands why a certain winner or loser is being chosen. Since we as the audience can't taste the food, it's the judges' responsibility to give us an idea of what made a certain chef's food deserving of a win or a loss.
It's natural for people working on the show to have favorite characters, but that doesn't directly influence any of the win/loss decisions on the show. I've seen many times when the chef that both the producers and the judges really wanted to win, either because they were generally a better chef or because they were fun/interesting to have on the show, was eliminated because their food just wasn't as good as everyone else's that day. In this sense, Top Chef has a lot of integrity, because they really do try to choose winners and losers based entirely on the rules of the challenge, rather than on factors like likeability/marketability/past performance.
Although I know a lot of people who work on MasterChef, I've only worked on the MasterChef Celebrity Showdown, so I don't have much experience with how the judging works. I have heard that they eat the same food that they use for food porn, so it's usually been sitting for a while before the judges try it. Also, Christina Tosi is awesome.
you're missing out. 8-12 are the best in the series (10 & 12 especially) and 13 (most recent) was pretty great too
bilyl ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:13:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of a crazy last season IMO. I didn't expect Jeremy to win since he was such a bro and made the same thing every week. I thought Carl would have won. Kwame had by far the biggest choke job towards the end considering how well he was doing in the first half of the season.
yeah i liked jeremy fine but def didn't expect him to win. i was pulling for marjorie and amar and expected kwame to sweep, it was a shame. unfortunately half of the entire season was spent with phillip's boring drama so it kind of took until he was eliminated for the group to really gel together imo, which made it more of a lackluster season than 12
bilyl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've watched the most recent 6 season of Top Chef. While it's not totally real or totally fake, you can pretty much guess the entire season. There will be a couple of people in there that are totally for the drama and will be out by halfway through the season. Then there are those who you know will never make it to the end that will be knocked off one by one until the last four -- figuring out the order is the interesting part. But from the beginning you can tell that they've already stacked the season with 3-4 really good contestants who might stumble on an episode or two but will never be outright kicked off.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:54:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My girlfriend has picked the winner of the last 4 seasons after watching the first episode.
Oh wow. The ones I've seen had the best dishes win. But then again, I've only seen seasons of the British version.
KFBass ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 19:53:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
In one of Anthony bourdains books (medium raw I think) he speaks about being a guest judge on top chef. He specifically mentions how its best dish win, period. Not even the sorry back stories come into play.
EDIT: def was medium raw. Also typos. He specifically mentions sending home somebody much to the anger of the producers.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:21:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly this is good to hear. I work for a top chef winner and I'm glad to hear she won because she was the best and it wasn't all a sham. She's an amazing woman and deserves everything she has gotten as a result of that show.
I met her at last year's food and wine festival in Chicago. Definitely the coolest and most down to earth chef I've met. I wish her all the success (her food is incredible too)
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:28:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She really is. She is so down to earth and incredibly respectful of everyone that works for her. She works harder than anyone I've ever met and I am just in awe. She was cooking on the line at 8 months pregnant!
Nice, I haven't been there yet but I've heard great things. GatG is probably the best meal I've had in the year I've lived in CHI though.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:12 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I definitely prefer the food at Girl & the Goat but we have some great things too. She recently opened her third, Duck Duck Goat. It's really tasty Chinese food.
I'm glad to know the "best dish wins" rule isn't just a line for tv. There have been multiple seasons where a seemingly better chef is sent home even though everyone acknowledged their past dishes were much better and the bad one was an anomaly.
KFBass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Makes sense I guess. Specially as a guest judge. You put 10+ meals in front of me. Given a set of rules or a theme. I'd like to think I could judge them objectively and ignore the tv stuff.
I am a certified beer judge as well as make my living in the beer industry, and have judged several international and national competitions for professional breweries and homebrewers. I like to think we remain impartial. Too bad nobody makes a tv show about brewers ha-ha.
I've noticed on Cutthroat Kitchen the chefs are always plating two dishes, but they only ever have one for the judge to sample. Took me a season to notice it and gather why.
I watched several seasons without understanding why. It took reading this comment on reddit a few months ago to figure it out
GWizzle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:06:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's clearly some editing between Alton Brown saying time's up and the judge starting to taste the food, but I've always liked how it seems like they do try to transition as quickly as possible. Again, maybe it is just editing and for show because a lot has to happen sometimes to "reset" the kitchen but I imagine they take as little time in between as is possible.
Kahzgul ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:14:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every cooking competition show does two dishes for this very reason. Top Chef is pretty old, so they may have actually set the standard, I'm not sure. Even so, in most shows the judges are not permitted to consider the temperature of the food as part of their judgement simply because the food often sat around for 10 minutes or more while shots were being set up.
I absolutely love this goddamn show, it's honestly a guilty pleasure at this point from how much time I've spent watching it. It's probably the most "real" reality show out there though I always worry people will get turned off by it due to the stigma that the genre itself has. But I'll be damned if that isn't one of the most simultaneously appealing, entertaining, likeable, and inspiring shows out there.
I know a guy who's worked on a few food related shows. His job is pretty much to recreate what contestants have made, but using substitute items that won't distort under the lights for the camera (e.g. if a contestant uses ice cream, he makes some mashed potatoes).
He does it more for chef's who can make the same dish repeatedly look the same, as it gives him time to prepare the false food for the cameras without too much differences in appearance from what is served to the judges.
A friend of a friend once told me that a lot of the food goes cold on these types of shows before the filming of close-ups is done. Apparently the production team will often hide a tampon that has been dipped in boiling water behind a plate so that it looks to the camera as if the dish is piping hot.
It's quicker than a microwave I suppose.
mndtrp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:54:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That makes sense. I can't recall which show I was watching recently, but the chefs would always make at least one extra plate than judges. On a separate viewing, I also wondered if the judges would vote differently if they could eat the food right away, instead of waiting for the chefs to blabber on about what they made. I guess if I would have had the same thoughts in the same viewing, I would have put two and two together much quicker.
I believe they also had their own chefs remake the dishes for food porn shots. The asain chick from season 1 was in charge of it for season 2. They do this with other cooking shows as well, like MasterChef.
Worked on a season of Top Chef. There is a lot of real but also a lot of staged. There were very strict rules when it came to interacting with the contestants as to not ruin the integrity of the show. Some of the best food I have ever eaten though.
They show this on a lot of food network shows now, like Cutthroat Kitchen, really respect Alton Brown and the network for finding a real solution and not just having the producers telling the chefs to fuck off.
I worked on top chef here in vegas. one segment when they were sampling the "just cooked" dish it came right out of the refrigerator. they took a bite on camera,gushed about it and spit it out as soon as they said CUT!
In the very first episode of Top Chef they ever filmed
You're surprised they figured this out almost immediately?
Beanzii ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:27:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heard what they do because there is huge gaps between the cooking and the judgings that the food the contestants make aren't actually the food the judges eat. a professional chef recreates the exact process that went into the dish while the tastings are going on so they are at eating temp when being tasted.
Huge ANTM fan here, wanted to ask a further question about Tyra: do you think she really cared about the contestants modelling careers/prospects? She always seemed so invested in the show during the earlier seasons, as if she genuinely cared for some of the girls.
Why did you hate your experience on the show?
[deleted] ยท 75 points ยท Posted at 02:03:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
First off, you were my favorite on that season, and maybe even all the seasons. Second, after reading all of your replies, you sound exactly like how I remember you! I'm glad to see you didn't let the show/industry change you. Thank you for responding to this thread.
I was dating a girl in college that watched that first ANTM, and you're the only thing I remember from that show. You stood out due to being so much more real and relatable in comparison to the vacuousness of the other contestants. I recall thinking that you were going to win and then just turn and go back to med school.
holy cow, I remember watching that cycle and being really pissed off you didn't win, I remember googling you and being glad that wiki said you had a good career after the show so congrats on that
Your rant is my favourite thing to come out of ANTM; Kathleen DuJours' one episode coming at a close second.
[deleted] ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 04:39:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 09:21:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just wanted to say that as a long time viewer of the show I really appreciated how you unintentionally ended up being the antithesis of what Tyra's "Top Model" should be (a.k.a someone who views modelling as her be all end all dream and treats Tyra as a God). It just always seemed so silly for the show to market a job based on youth and looks as a dream career. I'm just curious if you're still working in fashion now or have you moved on?
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:07:20 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I used to read your blog years ago! What a blast from the past. You were such a breath of fresh air on the show, so pleased for you that you got a good modelling career out of it.
Edit: in retrospect, no need to mention your name!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:09:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:13:05 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably for the exposure. I follow a bunch of constants' IGs and some of them have books, are getting brand deals for sponsored posts, making youtube videos, etc in addition to modelling. It's quite skewed towards contestants of the later seasons after Tyra ran the show to shit.
NIN222 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:45:54 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Not sure if you'll read this but wanted to say I felt you definitely should've won (or maybe in hindsight you're glad you didn't!). Not only did you have the most unique look and took some stunning photos but I really admired how you stood up for yourself and your beliefs. Glad to hear ANTM was a springboard for a successful career.
Hi! You are absolutely one of my favorite contestants in all 22 seasons of ANTM, so I was a little bummed when you weren't announced on the cast list for all-stars a couple years ago! Were you approached or offered a spot on that season by Tyra & Co?
Of course, you said you've moved on for modeling so your non-inclusion is understandable. But honestly your rant is one of the top RTV moments of all-time, so them at least not trying to have you back is a huge loss!
Also, do you keep in touch with anyone from the show?
(sorry for all the questions - wishing you all the best!)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:59:58 on September 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah! I thought it had been you, made the most sense, you were definitely my favorite that season. Season 1 was interesting to say in the least with the praying and what not, do you think something like that would air anymore on reality television? It was definitely the least PC season of ANTM.
You know, it really depends on the type of show you are on because they vary so wildly in style. I've worked on a number of reality shows as a lighting technician, the ones I can remember the most are the amazing race, the great escape, kitchen nightmares, and twinning.
Twinning was the one that was most like jersey shore or the real world. Definitely not fake, but casting is so important. You don't need to fake anything when the people you as filming 24 hours a day are absolutely nuts. They'll decide at certain points to play God a little bit and move them into rooms with people they hate or give them alcohol when they realize two people have a thing together, but aren't acting on it. The producers of all of these shows just sit in a room and figure out how to create drama.
I've had friends work on duck dynasty and it sounds like what /u/henfrigate is saying. Everything in that show was scripted and they would do multiple takes and get coverage.
Very fake, basically a tv show shot in a reality format.
Shows like the amazing race and the great escape on the other hand are pretty dang real. Because of the obstacles and challenges they are interesting enough without the producers interfering that much. On the great escape because of the style of the show, we would go back the next day and reshoot key moments in a cinematic way to push that style. While it was "fake" it was still pretty dang real.
Oh and kitchen nightmares is very real. Gordon Ramsey is just basically a producer that is in the show. He knows what good tv is and how to get it. They pick terrible businesses and the show writes itself. The remodels are always funny though as they are just so on the surface.
imjohnk ยท 761 points ยท Posted at 16:25:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amy's Baking Company didn't need any help in making it real. I watched that episode today and the business was terrible enough that nothing scripted was needed.
Edit: an episode of Kitchen Nightmares of Gordon Ramsey.
Oh absolutely. And it seemed like they picked down on their luck businesses who wanted to succeed and were, Usually, willing to change as opposed to the American version... which picked businesses that were failing based off the owners being morons
It's pretty telling to me that the only businesses on Kitchen Nightmares US that succeeded were from season 1 (when they weren't picking complete fuckups) or recent seasons that haven't had enough time to go under. Everything from the middle seasons is dead.
peelit ยท 108 points ยท Posted at 20:04:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The U.K. Version of almost ANY show is so much better on all fronts.*
* Exception: Big Brother
Bbzk001 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:00:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Office US is better
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:37:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The US Office is good and thye are both very different shows but you are 100% an American if you think that. Have you even watched all of the UK Office? I love both shows but I've never met anybody who isn't an American who prefers the US Office. I guess it might be made more to American tastes (more lighthearted, more silly, cheaper jokes etc) which would make sense.
bushy82 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:58:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've never seen the US BB, but my wife and I watch the UK BB every year. We are Australian. The Brit's just seem to get reality TV better than the Aussie versions.
Wait, but I also love Aussie reality TV - e.g., The Block! Plus Australia's Next Top Model & Housewives of Melbourne were classic, binge-worthy, depression-busting better versions of the American originals. I just wish I could get more international TV here in the US (legally.)
America's Got Talent is better than Britain's Got Talent. Can't think of any others though. Haven't watched British X-Factor, but I'm going to assume it's better than the American one just off of things I've heard.
Edit: not sure why the downvotes. 'Merican version is clearly scripted in many parts & is nowhere near as funny as the UK version.
Drew Carey's jokes are cringeworthy.
Note: not taking anything away from all the genius comedians on the show like Colin, Ryan, Wayne, Greg etc (who also starred on the UK version first & made it so great).
And I fucking hate it. My parents watch all the shitty docudrama shows on discovery and history and I just wonder wtf happened to the main content for both.
Iorith ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:36:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You aren't wrong. I remember both shows being amazing to watch, and now it's all bullshit drama shows and conspiracy theories.
They're almost different shows. No dramatic confrontations, no pre-commercial cliff-hangers, no weird music in the background. Just Chef trying to help some of the biggest idiots ever in a kitchen.
It drives me nuts on Bar Rescue when the owners and staff are wearing the same outfits in the "6 weeks later" wrapup shit, as they were during the relaunch night.
I think the UK version focused more on the food. It almost became a how-to show and (generally) tried to avoid drama.
The US version lived for the drama. But maybe that's because of differences with the audiences.
On the US one he usually made the staff clean the kitchen as well. Unless there was a need for an exterminator or something, I don't recall him ever calling in a special crew of people. While many people say the UK version is a lot better, I've watched a few episodes, and I can't help but feel that it's just boring compared to the US version. Yes more real and not heavily edited, but still very boring.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:39:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't find it boring at all, but fair enough if you do. People like to talk badly about some shows being "dumb, fake, OTT, cheesy" etc but it clearly works so there must be something good about them. I can't imagine ever wanting to watch the US Kitchen Nightmares over the UK one though.
Honestly, the reason why I watch the US version is because of the trashy people and the drama. It's hilarious yet heartbreaking to see the terrible situations Chef gets himself in. In the UK, everything was milder and toned down; it was much more optimistic than the US version. To my memory, it's probably the only show where the UK version is optimistic and the US version is sad.
I live right by ABC in Scottsdale and you'll be glad to know they finally went out of business last year. Surprised they lasted that long though I guess they coasted on the publicity of the show for a while.
imjohnk ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:54:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah or maybe this guy is just really rich because why would Amy have a relationship with him anyway? Also he later tried attacking a customer with a knife, it's insane.
That is a valid point. There's something ... not quite right.
[deleted] ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 16:48:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
They edited the show to make it look like they were crazier than they really are. Just like how someone hacked their twitter/facebook/yelp/tinder accounts.
edit- word.
imjohnk ยท 118 points ยท Posted at 18:32:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The waitress who was fired later did an AMA and said they actually were really crazy, not like the example shown at the beginning of the series but they were regularly rude to customers and Amy was often really pissed. Also the facts that they can't take orders and such things were true. The owner himself actually tried to attack someone with a knife after the episode aired. They are insane, their business is shit but the show exaggerated a bit because of people specifically coming in to complain.
Negative. Lived and worked right next to Amy's for years. They truly are that crazy. More like batshit insane. It's gone now btw, I think it's been gone for a little over a year or so. Maybe two.
His name is Samy Bouzaglo, and you guys are right on the money. He even says it on camera because he's a giant idiot. Pretty sure he actually got deported because of it. He's an Israeli citizen and failed to divulge to the US about his criminal past, which included extortion and drug trafficking. So not exactly mafia, but definitely criminal of some sort.
Amy's was ALWAYS empty, like no one was ever there. My friends and I had a theory it was just a front for money laundering. After his comment on Hells Kitchen, pretty sure we were right.
On its face, it seems like plain old tough talk, but in the context of other stuff you see in the episode, like Sammy yelling "What are you, crazy?!" when Amy tries calling the police, and the fact the servers aren't allowed to handle wine/liquor, or input orders into the system, and his "gangsta" statement seems more like a Freudian slip than tough talk.
He told Gordon, "I'm the gangster, not you!" when they were having a screaming match. I knew when he said it that he was trying to be a badass but he was also genuinely an idiot and wasn't being facetious.
If you've watched the show and if you're a sane human being, I think you're going to realize there's no amount of editing you can do to make owners of a "restaurant" scream fuck you at the face of a customer and verbally assault them.
kerred ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:29:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My wife thought that the lady on Amy's Baking had a borderline personality disorder, and wondered if the studio did anything to help her. And if not, if anyone did anything to help her either get medicated or seek treatment. Or did everyone just call her crazy. Or is she well aware what she is doing and is just a bitch
Which I always wondered if they did a reality show where they took a bunch of people with depression and bipolar, and they took them all off their meds just to film how emotional they get. Would anyone ever question it
imjohnk ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:50:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I don't know because she seemed so out of touch with the reality that she could have a disorder, but it also could just be the fact that she never got told something was her fault and only got compliments. This way suddenly getting criticism would drive her crazy, what is still weird though.
6502C64 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:39:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was the best ep. Did you watch the follow up episode? Just as funny (sad?).
imjohnk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have only watched that episode because it got mentioned on Reddit. What is the follow-up then?
kaikid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I live 5 minutes from ABC. Never been. Never will be.
There is a review on google and I swear it is written by Amy. Its all posh and shit saying how wonderful the business is and how polite the owners are. Pretty funny.
We used to know the family that owned Amy's Baking Company - they were involved in the Jewish Community with my family - can confirm that they were always like that, even before they had the restaurant.
demarto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Speaking as someone who actually went there to eat before it closed down... The people who ran it were pretty crazy. Sammy (the guy from ABC/that episode) actually chased a dude with a knife just outside of the restaurant. People were being douches, but... Don't run at someone with a knife.
There was a later episode, maybe the season finale, where he looked back on the whole sordid affair. In addition, he sent some of his staff back to interview them again, and it was exactly what you think it would be like. I seem to recall that at one point they demanded money from the film crew.
And I'm pretty sure its still the only restaurant that Gordon flat out walked out of after deciding that there was no way he could help them. That episode was fascinating to watch. I mean Amy and her husband were the IDEAL reality show subjects because they were so fucking crazy, the producers and Gordon literally didn't have to do anything to get a solid hour of drama.
Hotel Hell is also very real. The weird thing is that these shows have to leave out alot of relevant information as to why locals hate the owners of some of these places.
I obviously didn't work on the set but I've watched quite a bit of the show and my girlfriend made a habit of searching for the restaurants online. No kidding, maybe half of them were out of business and the other half had like 3 stars.
Also by the time I had seen a good chunk of episodes I saw myself rolling my eyes and knowing exactly what Ramsey was going to suggest. Usually there was some cleanliness concern, menu was too big, and turnaround time was too slow. Also the pre-fix evaluation seemed artificially bad and the fixed restaurant seemed artificially good. Like how was it that every single restaurant served him a bland, terrible, improperly cooked meal? It's fucking Gordon Ramsey...
THe UK version was much better. Lots of good advice, and realistic business makeovers. Like: hey, put a sign there at the beginning of the trail that leads to your restaurant, or organize your workforce a little better. Or buy this piece of equipment. None of this 'have a good cry as a family, and come back the next day and everything is brand new'.
I watch a lot of shows like this, big fan of Gordon and watched all his UK and US shows, but also stuff like Restaurant Impossible and Bar Rescue.
First, yeah most of the problems boil down to an arrogant asshole of an owner who is in way over their heads and won't admit it. For most of those they are doomed to failure no matter what is done.
Second, there are a few rare ones where people just need help getting back on their feet (more than one where the owner was absent for medical reasons or similar for a while and things went to shit in their absence, or natural disasters--Sandy and Katrina, etc). Those seem to do better once things get back on track now that the (more competent) owner is back in place.
I agree with all that. And to add I think Ramsey's show is way better than the admittedly few other ones I've seen. I think bar hopper is especially bad. I don't want to give people the impression I'm hating on the show, though I guess I kinda am. It's a good show.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:07:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
After watching the shows I looked up the restaurants online and you are right. I think more than half are out of business. They were probably destined to fail anyway no matter what.
I know that Ramsay is extremely critical about food and maybe rightly so but he can't expect every restaurant to cook his way all the time. He was on a talk show and the host asked him if he had ever eaten Girl Scout cookies. He said no so they gave him some. He literally leaned over his chair and spit it out on the floor. He said they were 'dreadful'. Can't please that man!!
amazing race is real they filmed in my city for the canada version this year, glad i was at a friends place that was near the end point and i got some footage and even who won that part of the race. I could post it but then i don't want to be sued or anything. xD
They'll decide at certain points to play God a little bit and move them into rooms with people they hate or give them alcohol when they realize two people have a thing together
This reminds of a documentary on the show called "real world"
The show in its first season was losing viewers and failing but the producers decided to leave something (I think it was a magazine but can't remember anymore) that would piss off a cast member so they would fight another member. I think this began the whole producers moving things here and there to create chaos.
Oh and kitchen nightmares is very real. Gordon Ramsey is just basically a producer that is in the show. He knows what good tv is and how to get it. They pick terrible businesses and the show writes itself.
I watched one episode the other day. He moved a piece of furniture and there were brown spots where the legs were and he's like "That's mold!" I'm like, that's rust. Then he did a bacteria test on a shower curtain right in the crevasse where it's most certainly not going to be cleaned and it was like 5,000 something so he went and pulled the fire alarm.
The amazing race is only reality show I ever watched, only thing I hate about it is sound editing. That stupid honk sound every time they show some road is annoying.
N2O1138 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:50:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Surprised to see Twinning mentioned. I went to school with Winston and Bennett... well for a year until they got kicked out.
I used to LOVE Duck Dynasty. For about a month when it first came out. After that I couldn't help but see how insanely scripted and terrible it was. Mix that with the grandpa Phil being a raging homophobe, and I decided the show wasn't for me
They do it over 12 hours overnight. How much are you really going to do with that? They just paint and add in some big piece that they reveal later in the episode.
Shows like the amazing race and the great escape on the other hand are pretty dang real. Because of the obstacles and challenges they are interesting enough without the producers interfering that much. On the great escape because of the style of the show, we would go back the next day and reshoot key moments in a cinematic way to push that style. While it was "fake" it was still pretty dang real.
I understand that Mantracker falls into this category too.
I know 2 of the girls on Twinning and they basically told me most of it was scripted, and when they started hooking up with someone they told them to keep doing it.
I miss Great Escape so much! Sick show that really should've lasted more than 1 season.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you trying to tell me Jersey Shore wasn't faked? I find that hard to believe it's obviously faked in some areas.
Kahzgul ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm an editor for reality TV and this is the best response I've seen in this thread. It all depends on the show, and my experience reflects exactly this description.
i read a thing once with video showing one of the girls from jersey shore doing multiple takes of getting in and out of a vehicle so i guess even that was scripted
My question with kitchen nightmares is does he do more than just remodel and remenu? I mean the guy seems awesome but I always feel like they gloss over the fact that almost everyone on the show is incompetent with the books and having a higher land value just makes taxes higher, not the the books any cleaner.
My sister's old best friend and her twin were on the show. I never saw the show or even spent much time with the twin, but her friend was reality show gold in real life. She was crazy and crazy funny. It wouldnt be a challenge to edit her into something entertaining.
On the great escape because of the style of the show, we would go back the next day and reshoot key moments in a cinematic way to push that style. While it was "fake" it was still pretty dang real.
I completely understand an accept that.
The one and only thing I think reality TV should not do is intentionally distort or influence the results of shows. I know that sometimes to make a good TV show they need to edit, especially to compress timeframes and on a show like the amazing race to compensate for things like production delays.
Very happy that you say that amazing race is minimally-interfered with, it's one of my favorite shows.
My friends Adam and Cory
were on Twinning! They said they loved it but it was essentially like you said: pretty straightforward competition but every so often they played God and controlled them and the environment to exacerbate social issues, etc.
A friend worked on Geordie Shore, a UK version, and she told me that a lot of it is setup. For example, when they go clubbing, they rent out a club in the middle of the day and fill it with extras. I can't imagine how surreal that must be.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:29:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad you mentioned Jersey Shore. The early episodes were very real, it's evident from the fact that they blur out so many faces (even the faces of some girls they brought back to the house once). They literally just throw them onto the shore, get loaded, and party. That shit was the bomb.
I can agree with that, but there is really no way to make it real in regards to post. You'll always be bias in someway. They are heavy handed with editing, but it's not like they are planting things to move the story along.
He's hardly a prick, but from what I understand he does care a lot about his work. He's actually a really nice guy!
lilriri ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:40:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I always got the feeling that he was a good guy. On kitchen nightmares he only acts dick-ish to the people who are acting super irrational or don't want to listen to him. He just gives stern lectures to the better behaved people, and you can tell that he really cares about helping them improve.
Not quite. He's a super caring guy, but cares a lot about his work. So,as long as you don't mess up your food but too badly, then he's cool with you. But he does get mad, again, if you fuck up your food really bad or if you don't listen to him.
I'm pretty sure your missing the point. He's a nice guy on and off screen. If you watch Masterchef Junior, you'll see he is actually a good guy who really cares about the kids and doesn't like to see them upset. On Hell's Kitchen they all have a good time when they aren't in the kitchen and hanging out with Chef Ramsey.
Imagine you gave people the chance of a life time to come and work with you (a household name at this point). They claim to be amazing and the best of the best but make very simple and obvious mistakes (not communicating, letting something be sent out raw or cold, not knowing how to chop up something). You'd be pretty pissed off too.
And you act like you've never been really pissed off with people. He is human, you know. Sometimes people get really pissed off at others, and sometimes they are genuine people. It just depends on if he's been set off by something. I normally only see him get pissed at simple mistakes that should have been covered in cooking 101. And if you watch kitchen nightmares he does want to help people, otherwise he would turn up his nose and leave at the first sign of trouble. But he has helped people be better at cooking, and has remodeled their restaurant to make it look nicer.
Some people need to be yelled at. I'm sure he has in the past told people "hey, next time do this" but the way the editing makes it look, he looks like an awful person. Some of the things he's says is out of pure annoyance and isn't yelling, but the way it is edited makes it look like he's screaming at those making the food. You can turn the mic up, cut to shots that were of people turning that happened either before or after the shot, throw in some flashy sound effects or add music to the background. In all honesty, it's all in the way it is edited. That's why he looks like a "psycho." Most of the time he raises his voice because it can get loud in the kitchen and he wants to make sure everyone can hear. If he's going to scream he takes the person outside or out of the shot.
It doesn't sound like that person has actually watched much of Ramsay's television. I thought he was an angry psycho too, just based on the commercials I'd seen for his shows. But then I started watching the shows and realized he's really not like that, he's mostly really nice to people and only gets upset when it's necessary. Like an episode of Kitchen Nightmares when he witnessed a cook pick some chicken up off the floor and continue to use it and he was all "what the fuck are you doing??" That's a totally reasonable time to yell at someone, because seriously, what the fuck were they doing?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:07:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Professionalism is being brutally honest with people when they're in serious danger of hurting someone with the food they sent out. That's the only time I see him genuinely angry on the show.
Yes, it's played up for TV. You can easily see the difference if you watch the British version of Kitchen Nightmares (in which he's merely snarky) with the American version, in which he comes across as a complete asshole for the first half of each episode.
If you want to get a sense of what he's like, go read his AMAs here on Reddit, he had one just a few days ago.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Again? I remember his first one which was awesome
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He did a second one a few days ago, you should check it out
I have a friend who is a personal chef and worked with him two times. If you mess up in the kitchen he will rant and yell a bit but she said he's nowhere near even the top 10 asshole's she's worked with. He was assured, expected you to be professional and know your job. Everyone liked working with him because he was a pure pro.
The assholes were chefs who were either out of their depth and relied on everyone else to do everything without direction and a couple of Food Network people who have become detached from real kitchens.
Watch a show that is not catering to American audiences. It's played up because that is what gets views in America unfortunately. He seems like a really cool guy otherwise, if you like cooking shows without the drama, master chef Jr is a good one.
SatanMD ยท 760 points ยท Posted at 18:22:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm late but whatever. Pitbulls and Parolees on Animal Planet. I used to work at the main warehouse where they filmed everything. Not sure if I'm actually on the show at all but if I am I'm just in the background scratching my ass.
Everyone that works there only tolerates filming because it's more money for the dogs. The camera crews would try and get people to recreate things they missed but most of us weren't very cooperative. Everyone on the show and in the rest of the staff really just wants the best for the dogs. From what I have seen anything that was staged we're things that had actually happened and the camera crew wasn't around for.
The dogs there are amazing. All the horrible things they had been through and they remain so lovable. I miss all my furry buddies there.
I think my favorite moment was when she brought a dog to a home where the family had prepared for months to get it, and had everything all set and had the kids all prepared, but then the moment she found out that their family small dog was territorial and the second snapped at the pitbull she immediately took it away and told them it wasn't going to work out. The kids were crying and the father was trying to bargain, but she just kept saying, "Sorry but this isn't the proper environment for a dog of this background,"
Integrity instead of a feel good story, I love it.
I agree, sometimes it doesn't work out, absolutely. But introducing dogs is a large part of my job, and sometimes the initial couple minutes are tense, and then they're best friends right after. Not all dogs are good at greeting, but are friendly after the fact.
I'm so happy it's real. The show does seem so genuine and I love the idea of what they're trying to do.
HrBerg ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:03:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tia tried to do an AMA once. She got about 5 questions in, and had to go on a dog rescue. She never came back (I think, she may have much later), probably because the thread was full of idiots who kept asking 'why are pitbulls so dangerous? They suck hur durr.'
SatanMD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't even know that. Reddit kinda sucks sometimes. But that woman is the most busy person I have ever seen. Pretty much everyone knows to stay the fuck out of her way.
HrBerg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, my mom loves her work. I made the mistake of showing her the AMA without reading it first, as I just happened upon it. Thanks to that, she thought I was like the type of person who goes on 4chan.
SatanMD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
House hunter type shows have usually already bought the place that wins
Rowdy10 ยท 876 points ยท Posted at 15:31:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a requirement to be on House Hunters that you are already closing on a house. It's free advertising for the agent and a way to be on TV for the couple.
That being said I still watch the shit out of those shows. Interesting to see what $x gets you around the world
I always like the ones where rich people are like "Oh! I can't decide between this place for 3 million, or that other place for 2.5 million. What a dilemma!"
Ohio, my friends just bought a 4 bed 2 bath house with a huge garage(like the kind you work on cars in not just park them). Around here if you go outside of a "big" town the properties are dirt cheap.
kanooka ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:55:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
rural indiana, you can find 4 bedrooms for less than 100k.
Not just rural. You can find plenty of 3-4 bedroom houses in the Evansville area for ~$100k. They might need work but they're out there. Something like 45% of Evansville residents rent so the housing market is a buyer's paradise.
Grand Rapids, MI -- more like 150 and up. Almost all the neighborhoods on the northwest, northeast, midtown, and Eastown are doing well. Houses sell within a week and often over the listing price. Even the west side is seeing a revival.
Where the hell can you get all that for $100K, let alone upwards of even $150K? I live in one of the most "affordable" cities in Canada and spent $260K (in a "cheaper" good neighbourhood) last summer and got 3 bedrooms, 1.5 bathrooms, no dining room, a weird L-shaped kitchen from 15 years ago with no dishwasher and tons of small jobs around the property to fix. Before the Recession about five years ago, that house was worth $325K.
Half bath is usually just toilet and sink, it's for visiting guests that aren't spending the night, it's very common. Imagine you have 3 bedrooms on the second floor of your house, one shared bath, one master bath, then you probably want a bathroom downstairs so your guests (and you) don't have to run upstairs in the middle of the day.
I'm so glad that I'm not the only person who noticed that!
I have this list in my head of some traits that I will have, or some events that will occur in my life, that will indicate to me that I am probably an old person.
One of those markers is everything looking financially out of whack. In other words, 23 year olds with a home buying budget of 'only' $400k.
It is still entirely possible though that I am getting old. Candy bars are well over that $1.00 mark I'd previously set out.
Well, if the show is filmed in Vancouver, their market is a bubble. Housing prices quadrupled in about 12 years, so if you bought a home for $250K that home is now worth $1 million. So, if a couple like that is selling their current home, their budget makes sense.
"I'm a disabled veteran using a broken oar as a leg. My wife has a crippling retail shopping addiction and does not work. We have 6 kids and my parents living with us. Our budget is $150 a week"
Not to mention that a $500k house on a $600k budget does not usually mean you have $100k for upgrades. Unless you're paying cash, mortgages do not work that way.
We only have a $350k budget for upgrades and repairs to this house.
I'm sorry, did I hear that correctly? They ONLY have $350k sitting around for upgrading their home? For $350k, I could pay off my car, my wife's car, my house, and build a kick-ass deck on the back of my paid-off house... With money to spare.
I know my wife and I do pretty well, but I certainly don't make that kind of money. I wish I did though.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:49:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For $350k
I could pay off
my car, my wife's car, my house, and build a kick-ass deck on the back of my paid-off house
Usually that means they have something like $200k available, and have qualified for a $400k loan. They can put $100k-$200k into the house. The bank is fine doing a mortgage for the remaining, since if they fail to make payments, there's enough principle in the house that they won't lose money if they have to foreclose.
If they find a $500k house, they have $100k of their savings to put into the house, and they've already budgeted for the monthly payments on a $400k loan.
Actually, you can get a mortgage that includes a renovation allowance, depending on who does your financing. They're not common, but they're not rare, either.
Source: I've done that.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:40:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you are using either the Federal Housing Administration's 203(k) mortgage or Fannie Mae's HomeStyle Renovation mortgage.
Yeah the way they word it sounds like you get to pocket what's left over after you buy. Nope, they loan you what you're paying, not what they approved you for folks!
I don't get it... Unless the people they are putting on the show are independently wealthy, I can't imagine they would be putting a large sum down as a down payment AND have $100-250K sitting in their accounts JUST for upgrades etc.
I can't watch these with my wife anymore because I can't hold back exclaiming, "Hooray! A happy ending for the rich people!" in my best Zoidberg voice.
I've been addicted to HGTV since we got basic cable (yes, it came with our internet package) and I'm more surprised with the homes people can get with under $300k! Where I live, a tear-down home is $1M so I'm always in disbelief when couples are looking for a 2000 sqft home for $200k.
The housing market where I am (Texas) is nuts! You can buy a 3500+ sq ft house for $300,000 easy. They're everywhere in the suburbs.
Bnfrze ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:16:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey! Alaska has great beach front property!
sbroll ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:42:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Alaska is so intriguing. It paints the fantasy of living in a cold, wilderness tundra but makes it sound so appealing and awesome. I had heard at one time (years ago and never fact checked) that they paid people a certain amount of money to move to Alaska, thats just crazy to think about. Fun to dream about what life would be like in a state most people know very little about. (besides cold and igloos of course)
I did already know this but it doesn't really ruin these show for me. I always try to figure out which house they have already bought.
bexyrex ยท 138 points ยท Posted at 15:52:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep same. And fixer upper is my fav because even tho Johanna's design style never changes it's bloody gorgeous anyway and gives me future ideas of what I want.
I saw a thing where they said that people always ask if the homeowners get to keep the furniture - because it's never their own. The answer is unfortunately no. They do have the option to buy the furniture though. And they do remodel the entire house, but the rooms that are not featured just get cursory work and a fresh coat of paint.
I fucking love Fixer Upper. I do always wonder if they get to keep the furniture. You say they don't, that sucks. What is their incentive to be on TV then? Do they get paid? I always assumed they would get the furniture.
I always wondered about the furniture simply because obviously, the people already have a couch and a kitchen table and whatnot.
mndtrp ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:01:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, if I was looking to remodel my house in a certain style, I would look for people who excel at that style.
I do find Fixer Upper to be one of the better shows in that vein. Aside from the one mildly over-dramatic issue that requires a call to the homeowner, everything else seems laid back and realistic.
bexyrex ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:49:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
French doors shiplap and distressed wood sign me up ๐
VashMM ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:42:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite one of those shows is Rehab Addict. This is probably because she does a lot of work in the Twin Cities and I have actually driven around and looked at a few. Living in a super old Minneapolis house myself, I like the fact that she keeps them relatively original.
I love Rehab Addict! It's my remedy for shows like Property Brothers who come in and rip out gorgeous original wood floors because there's a little damage in the corner. I think I spent too much time watching This Old House as a kid and now I just want to watch old homes be made pretty again instead of gutting them to make it open concept.
That show would be more fun if I could stand the two of them. I cant explain it but the oozing southernness makes it impossible to watch.
bexyrex ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:09:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol I'm from the south, but i live mostly in the northeast ATM. I don't like the south but I do love chip and johanna's personalities. I think they're both very funny animated hospitable people. And that's likely the southerner in me speaking. Northerners are too... uptight.
As a Russian immigrant who lived in the north until moving to Maryland I find southerners too friendly. Which is weird because I love the Midwest sort of "we are all in this shitty world together" friendliness but cant stand southern friendliness because it feels fake and patronizing. I guess I like the uptight or easy joking style of northerners.
That said their personality feels overly sweet to the point where I cant stand it. Im weird like that.
Have you seen Insane Pools? The budget for those things is like $300k+
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know I've seen a pool one, but not sure of the name. I can only assume there are several of them. But yeah, they look REALLY cool though. The one I've seen they typically try to do a "natural" style, which I really like. But my god the cost. It's one of those things, I just can't imagine spending that much even if I had it.
Yea for these types of shows it's okay. People don't watch them for the drama of which house they're gonna pick, and the producers wouldn't want to wait around for escrow to finish.
Exactly. My mom is a realtor and has been asked to be on the show before, however she declined and another agent from her office went on instead.
It's all very fake, as most times there isn't just 3 homes to show a couple or family but much more than that with weeks or sometimes months in between finding something alright and finding something better and actually closing. My mother has been working with a lovely couple for 10 years (!) and they only just now bought something.
While it's all scripted, still a great show to see what you could get.
I know of someone who was on one of those shows, ended up buying the first house they showed him before even showing him other houses, had him go and film going to two other houses and acting like he was maybe interested in buying them, and weighing the pros and cons of the 3 houses.
Those shows don't matter as much though. I don't care what they buy. I'm just there to see some cool houses and judge how long the couple's marriage will last
cl4ire_ ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:09:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The amount of variations of House Hunters is getting to be a bit sickening. House Hunters International is kind of interesting, but there are so many others now that follow the same format, it feels like they copy each other almost word for word.
cl4ire_ ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:07:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some of those people going into a tiny house amaze me, especially those with kids. I remember watching one where the parents had 2 daughters, maybe around 10-12 years old (I don't recall exactly). I remember commenting to my husband that those girls, as they became pre-teens and teenagers would eventually want a lot more privacy than a tiny house could provide. Same with other families with more than 1 kid.
Yes! Love that show! I know with all the crap I own, it won't be feasible for me, but I would love to have a bad-ass tiny house where the stairs had hidden storage.
My mom likes the show, but notices discrepancies in the background rather frequently. There was one episode where the family absolutely needed to be in the new home in time for Christmas, because Christmas! Holiday episode, how important family is, snow is great, Santa for my four year old during all of the discussions with the buyers.
The after they purchased filming was them opening presents in a house decked with winter Wonderland Christmas theme stuff, wearing thick sweaters and drinking cocoa to fight the chill of winter. But in the background of their present opening scene is three Gardeners working their tails off, drenched with sweat in clearly summer heat. From the outside scenes there hasn't been snow in months.
Except from Escape to the Country, a U.K. TV programme in which I've never seen the couple successfully buy one of the four houses shown. The show usually ends with a black screen saying 'Kevin and Tracy's offer for house number 3 was unsuccessful, but remain hopeful about their property search'
finnw ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:45:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then you think "hey that's sneaky, the seller is using the show to advertise, and hoping to attract viewers that way. They were never going to sell."
Then you realise it was filmed 3 years ago, so probably too late anyway.
My dad's friend applied to be on 'Escape to the Country' but by the time the production company responded, they had already bought a house and relocated.
The production company had them on the show regardless, because they didn't have enough suitable candidates- they just had to pretend that they were prospective buyers. It was really stupid to watch because they had to find 'faults' with each house to justify their lack of interest in all the options, that y'know wasn't "Well, we've already found and bought a house, and have been living there for months!"
I have a friend that was a cameraman for the "naked house hunters" garbage show that was on. He said the people are random as hell, usually not couples and definitely not actually interested in buying the houses they're looking at. But the show doesn't censor out anything, instead uses carefully placed objects, which is why he really enjoyed working on the show.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:57:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend that was on House Hunters! They had already owned their home for a couple of months, and they asked her to be rude to be rude to her husband when they were "looking at houses".
My wife's cousin was on that show. After her successful audition they told her to call them back after she closed on a new place.
calior ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:39:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We filmed our episode a few months ago. It's just not feasible to follow a couple around for months while they hunt for a house. But we found the experience to be pretty close to reality. We only looked at houses in our budget, they didn't let us look at anything before filming so our reactions would be more natural, and all of the houses were very similar to what we had actually looked at. Unfortunately, we are in a very competitive market, so there was no way to look at houses we had considered because they were already sold by filming. It was a fun experience, and they really made us stick to what we had said during our interviews- they were more concerned with consistency than drama.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:45:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A builder wrote about how fake HGTV's shows about buying tiny houses are.
This happened to me, recently sold my house and the real estate agent contacts me the next day asking if we can "stage" the house for a tv show (not the one you mentioned) It was the same sort of setup, they look through three houses and buy the one they like the most.
I didn't go ahead with it as they only gave us one days notice I had to visit Ikea to buy some crap for my new house so couldn't do it.
Location, Location, Location (a British show) isn't like that. A friend of mine was on it last year - and has a follow up episode being filmed this weekend iirc - and he really was a picky so-and-so about his criteria :D Ended up buying the last option presented to him but there was no pre-planning at all.
my friends were on house hunters. Not only did they already own the house, they "looked at" 2 houses that weren't even on the market. They also had people from the show kind of dictating what to say and how to act. They specifically were asking them to bicker about certain things they liked and disliked about the houses, even though it wasn't true.
My wife and I applied to House Hunters International when we were considering a move within the country we were already in. The reply came about 6 months later, after we had already moved. They didn't care. It was explained that we would be filmed over about 5 days, and they would show us some other properties, and a 'before and after' version of our apartment. We noped out because part of the package was flying us home to Canada for a couple of days to film the backstory. Overall, it would have taken a substantial amount of our time that we just didn't have, but would have been a cool story. But the TL:DR is, HH International is fake as fook.
They bug the shit out of me. If you have the money to buy an expensive house you have the money to pay someone legit to find it for you without showing off.
Probably no one on Reddit watches it, but Say Yes to the Dress. It's real. One sister and a few friends have gotten their dresses there, and while they didn't appear on the show (you get asked when you make your appointment), their experiences were the exact same as TV.
Yes, the consultants really are that personable. Yes, you sit where the show is filmed. Yes, the people on the show really work there. No, they won't show you anything outside your budget, and yes, they really do bend over backwards to find you discounts if you need one (like on the show.)
I know there are probably cheaper places to buy a wedding dress, but Kleinfeld's is gorgeous and exactly like it is on SYTTD. The only thing that might be "faked" is if girls/their family are told to be super picky about the dress for ~dramatic effect~.
Fuck most of TLC's other shows though.
EDIT: YAY MORE PEOPLE WATCH THAN I THOUGHT
Edit 2: Again, I've been there a few times, but we were NOT filmed for the show. I can't speak for how real the dialogue is or isn't. BUT the store and its employees are as cool and nice and friendly as on TV!
My friend went with her aunt to buy her (the aunt's) dress at Kleinfeld's. They were just regular customers, but the lady helping them was from the show (can't remember her name now), so yeah they do actually work there. And everyone was really nice and helpful. She also said Randy stopped by when her aunt was wearing a dress to gush about how nice it looked.
I used to work in customer service for a bridal gown designer/manufacturer. One of my coworkers, who went to Bridal Market in New York (where bridal salons order their gowns from designers for the next season), met Randy while there, and said that he was a genuinely nice person.
I had this on while doing other things and my dad sat down and watched it, making all sorts of comments on fit and style. He is very opinionated for someone who wears the same Hawaiian shirt for every family gathering. He got SO invested in the show, it was kind of adorable.
My fiancรฉ is a cynical, gruff crab-ass (which I happen love about him). When I watch SYTTD he will go from reading what I assume are super manly articles about muscle cars and motorcycles on his iPad, to slowly becoming more and more engrossed in the show. 10 minutes in, he's commenting along on the dresses like one of the girls. I love it.
Yep, my dad loved watching Project Runway with us.
I don't know if it's because he just liked spending time with us (poor guy only had daughters*), he likes watching any sort of competition or he just legitimately liked the show.
(*Don't worry. I go to football and basketball games with him all the time, so he gets to do "boy" things, too.)
Not planning a wedding but that show is a guilty pleasure especially when there's a marathon. But I really do hope the closet they keep Pnina in is comfy. They're pulling out that woman from nowhere all the time.
Cthulia ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:02:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did, too, which was funny because I had virtually no interest in my own dress. I wore something from the sale rack at David's - the second one I grabbed, because the first didn't fit. But wow, I couldn't get enough of that show.
Stuck up bitches naysaying their retarted bride friend who has huge boobs and that dress really makes her look frumpy but that other one was obviously way hotter and in her budget. I'm glad she chose that one.
I fucking hate it. Terrible show.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:36:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When you misspell "retarded" while attempting to insult something, your opinion no longer counts. Using the word "retarded" at all, in my book, discounts you as a person worthy of listening to.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:56:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It helps that there are some personal anecdotes from other people who have been there as well. You have a truly commendable ability to remain vigilant for when to question things, by the way.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:53:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was actually 100% a compliment, even if you didn't take it that way. People forget to question things pretty often, so I'm always glad when someone directs me to be more mindful of what I believe to be true. I'm really being sincere
peelit ยท 739 points ยท Posted at 20:08:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
SYTTD is the reason my mom would come up with statements like "You know, $5000 is a very reasonable budget for a wedding dress" when I was getting married. Lady, $5k is the budget for the whole wedding, and it's not like you're chipping in.
If you don't mind me asking, what color was the dress? Was it a pastel shade, or just any other dress? I don't really plan on getting married any time soon but it's still fun to see what my options are and what others have done for theirs (sadly enough, I haven't even considered getting a non-white dress until you mentioned your experience)
I got married in a dark purple with beading. It was an expensive bridesmaid's dress, so a super cheap wedding dress (about ยฃ300, back when the pound was worth something).
Zoe346 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:21:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My wedding dress was also purple. :) it's a knee length dress as well so I've been able to wear it multiple times.
Oh fantastic! Mine will never be worn again (I was tiny when I got married and I'm pregnant with my first so we'll see if I'd even fit lol) but it was such a lovely find. Had to be altered like crazy (again I'm tiny) but the alterer did a lovely job on it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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asshair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What color is it? Cream? Egg-shell?
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asshair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My mother found hers at a secondhand store, iirc. She said something like $80? She's great at finding deals though. :O (Also, this was back in the 80s, so the cost would have to be adjusted for today's value)
I am so proud of the time I found an off-the-rack-needed-absolutely NO alterations dress for a friend. I ended up telling her if she didn't buy it I was going to kill her. Seriously, it fit her like it was made for her, had exactly the details she wanted, and was obviously un-tried-on before we arrived.
I know, right? There was some woman on the Suze Orman show around the time I was planning my wedding and she was saying she'd need to spend something like 20K on a dress. I spent 500 on a dress and truthfully I could've spent half that much if I needed to cut costs. People are crazy. lol
I'm nowhere near getting married, but my mom says this kind of thing about other people's dresses all the time! I'm very convinced it's from watching the show, it's really screwed her perception of how much wedding dresses cost.
As a person who .01% of 5k for a perfectly nice looking wedding dress (not a typo), I can say that you can find it for much less if you'er ok buying used.
The parts that were a slightly different color were weird little velvet roses that I wasn't in love with, but didn't hate. I didn't have to tailor the fit at all, which was great. It had what this picture calls a boatneck neckline. The skirt (which this picture doesn't really show) had an A-line thing going on with a little tule to give it a little shape.
So, long story short, the dress wasn't Kleinfeld levels by any ways shape or means, but it looked better than it had any right to look for what it cost.
Goodwill. Our local chain was renovating and they had a bag sale to get rid of the old merchandise at $5 a bag. My mom handed me the dress, I tried it on and it looked great so bought it along with 9 other items. Then I got home and realized that there's not much you can do with a long white dress.
This, unfortunately, was a bit before I even met the guy I ended up marrying. Which made me the crazy girl who owned a wedding dress, despite not having a boyfriend or frankly caring about getting married. I'd never been the little girl who dreamed of a wedding, but one purchase made me the stereotype.
Thankfully, when things got to the point where I'd need a dress, he didn't freak out when I told him I had one. He understood the value of a deal and it still fit, so yeah. Fifty cent dress.
5k is dirt cheap seeing some of the weddings around. Maybe the gown plus the photographs can be 5k if you scrimp.
peelit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:38:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We had our friends take pictures and are happy with how they came out. They aren't art the way the professional ones can be but they're very good. A friend of ours's band played too so we got them half price. We spent all the rest on food.
A few years ago, I was a production assistant for a documentary (which still isn't out yet) and this is standard procedure. You need everyone to speak in full sentences if you don't want the producer's voice in the final product.
I've been a producer on some interview shoots, and it's stupid awkward to ask someone to repeat everything they said but to lead with the question this time, and then they do it right but they answer it a little differently, so you end up with a worse take.
At that point, the face-time gets sliced with B-roll and the two audio tracks get merged.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:09:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now part of me wants to be on that show solely to have a reality show made up of me and my friends as a wedding gift.
I did some marketing at a past job and that's pretty standard. I wouldn't consider it "coaching". I need you to say the whole phrase so it's better for my sound editor in post.
My girlfriend likes the show Are You The One. I've learned to just leave the room when it's on because I can't help but ruin her good time by pointing out how clearly over produced it is. They'll have a dramatic moment where it's going to be revealed whether or not someone is a match and I'll say something like, "let me guess, the result will be whatever will cause the most drama in the house," and it always is. Wonder why they don't tell you the matches beforehand or have the results in a sealed envelope or something. Because it's all made up, duh. It ruins it for her, which really makes me the dick. Fucking hate that show though.
I watch SYTTD often. I'm glad to know that the off-camera experience at Kleinfeld is the same as what we see on TV. It's amazing to me that they are not just selling a dress, but an overall experience.
Not a shill. Check out my post history. I normally hang out on two other subs, and tend not to venture out too often because the rest of reddit is weird and judgy and scary.
I like fashion/sewing, and pretty dresses.
You said something good about something!!! YOU MUST BE WORKING AN ANGLE!!1 /s
But yeah, they are :) Selling an experience, I mean. So far I've just been the bridesmaid and not the bride, but they do seem to go out of their way to make the girls feel special. It's such a letdown to go other places for bridesmaid dress shopping later and get treated like shit :/
I met the host, Randy? On the metro in DC. One of the nicest genuine people ever.
It was about 8ish at night so it was just me, my girlfriend and him and his family on the train. I remember her saying something like "that guy is so familiar" so she ended up just walking up to him and asking "are you -name- from say yes to the dress?" And he was like. "I knew you recognized me, I told them that. That's so funny. Anyway, I'm being rude, this is my sister and my mom it's so wonderful to meet both of you." He asked us if we wanted to take pictures and stuff. He legit introduced us to his mom and sister.
That ain't me, it's my ex, (don't worry we are still best friends, don't ask long story) but yeah, dude must have been sporting easily 3500-4000 dollars on clothes and accessories.
[deleted] ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 00:46:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well. I guess I've told it enough I can tell it one more time for everyone here. Even though this is a thread about a tv show and I needlessly brought it up lol.
Well.
We started dating in high school on and off, she was my first real girlfriend. She had her own agenda and I was maturing faster than she was so we split for a while around junior year. Fast forward 11/2 years and I'm a manager for Jiffy Lube and she happens to come in and we start talking again and eventually started dating again. Well she graduated high school a year after me and ended up going to college. We fought a lot due to the distance and we ended up breaking up, well, found out she was pregnant, and we ended up back together trying to salvage a relationship. (And yes the kid is mine, before anyone says anything, it's a known fact that it's mine).
Well she ended up dropping from school and she had the baby on 12/12/12 (awesome birthday if I might add). So we tried for about a year or so before we ended up saying the fighting was to much and ended up splitting up. We broke up mutually, both agreeing that we both grew up in households where fighting was a regular thing between parents and We didn't want her (our daughter) going through that. So we said well break up, and leave any courts or legal system out of it. So we ended up becoming even closer and better friends than ever and we get along extremely well, and we both have even thought about getting back together but with a few issues being one, I have an amazing girlfriend of 2 1/2 years. And two we would probably end up fighting Non stop again.
But in order to leave the courts out of it, we used our brains and agreed on the following.
Anything that goes to my house for our daughter I pay for.
Anything that goes to her house for our daughter she pays for.
Anything in the middle we split half and half.
And we both can have our daughter anytime we want, just a matter of calling each other and saying, "you busy? On my way to pick her up soon" so we both get equal time with her and equal time to our own lives.
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 01:43:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, you guys handled that in quite the mature way. Good on you!
This is great! I can say from experience that it is amazing having my parents be really close friends. They divorced and it was rough for a little while but even just last weekend they went out to lunch together after visiting my grandfather (dad's side) in the hospital.
Yeah we do that a lot. Well even take our daughter out to dinner or something together. It's not the end of the world when you break up with someone. But if there's a child involved at least try to be civil and as mature as possible. Be the example you wanted for you. And be the change you want to see.
Yes! I met him at a traveling bridal event he was hosting. Very sweet and he genuinely makes you feel like the most beautiful person when he says "helllooo beautiful!"
Hard to admit as a 24 year old straight male but I loved this show when I found it last year. Quickly became a guilty pleasure watching some of the more bitchy bridesmaids. Good to know it's mostly genuine.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:41:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm at that point where everyone around me is getting married, and drunken bridesmaids are still the best/worst part of every wedding.
Well fuck, and here I was going to get work done today.
(I was just in a wedding and was the only one who was okay with the bridesmaid dresses. It caused so much flailing about with the other bridesmaids that like ten people came up to me at the wedding reception all "They don't look so bad!" and by the third time I was politely throwing the other bridesmaids under the bus about it. They weren't the most flattering out of the box but with a little altering they looked great.)
I was able to find 24 episodes by goggling (mostly season 3). First one is working so I'm hoping the rest do. Not as good of quality as it would be on hulu but hey it works. (it's on watchseries-online.la)
Apparently fashion-related shows are pretty legit. IIRC another thread like this mentioned that What Not to Wear is pretty much exactly how it looks on screen.
My sister-in-law was on Say Yes. It's fairly legit. The only issue we saw was my wife saying she hated a dress but it was not the one being shown. They really enjoyed their experience.
I love SYTTD!! I've always dreamed of going to Kleinfeld's for my wedding dress but I'm sure I wouldn't be able to afford a 5k dress. I know there are cheaper dresses there but I've always felt like the really pretty ones come in at 5k+
There are other ways to wear a kleinfelds dress. I did, although mine was just the cost of alterations because luckily for me, my mom's dress was kleinfelds and we're about the same size.
I fricking LOVE Say Yes to the Dress, both NYC(?) and Atlanta. I'd love to go to either of the stores and get a wedding dress but (a) I've yet to meet Mr Right and (b) I live in the UK. :'-(
ACK that also means the times i've seen it and one family member is an absolute jackass about the process... ugh. when I went through all of that, everyone was just so happy and nice about the whole thing. The only bad experience I had, if you'd call it that, was I found THE dress the time I went by myself, so I didn't have someone to ooh and ahh with me, lol. But how people can be so nasty when someone's trying something on! awful!
I heard about that!! :( That's absolutely awful. Would it have really been any skin off their noses to swap it out with another new episode and show hers a few weeks later? I guess I should've clarified, the store itself and its employees are really cool. The producers sound like dicks.
Ponson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:06:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Friday is Bride day! I love Say Yes to the Dress even though I haven't been able to watch it in a while
To be honest, if I had to guess one reality show that was as close as possible to reality, it'd be SYTTD. Planning a wedding and picking out a dress to wear on the most important day of your life sounds dramatic and stressful enough, I can't see producers needing to add to it. Plus, the fun of watching SYTTD is getting to see the bride and her family leave happy, whereas dating and relationship-based reality shows are usually fueled by UNhappiness to create the maximum amount of drama and watchability.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:45:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a Gun toting, Jeep driving, Harley riding, red blooded American male, I love "Say yes to the dress" and "What not to wear"
I watch it too, but I'm more of a Four Weddings kind of gal...
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:08:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Four Weddings is amazing! I feel bad though that there was one girl who had a low budget wedding (she was only 19 but her entire church chipped in: donated a hall, made all the food and cake and decorations and dress as gifts, etc) and the other three women were just condescending like "it was cute..."
I remember that one! I thought it was cute too, but in a good way...they were so young, I couldn't imagine their wedding would be some blinged-out, over the top circus act like some of the weddings are. I saw another one in Dallas the was small and low-key--the other brides didn't like it because of that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of my mom's friends was on the Atlanta version with her daughter and she said they edited it too make her(the mother) seem super bitchy. And the girl didn't even end up wearing the dress they bought on the show.
I loove this show! Me and my mum record it to watch like every day lol. But I did read somewhere that it's become a bit of a tourist trap now, and you can't move in there for people, so you don't get as much of a dedicated service or space that you see on the show.
Yay I love Say Yes to the Dress! I actually started watching because it was on in another room and the narrator is one of my favorite voice actors, so hearing Roger Craig Smith caught my attention and I kept watching. It's weird to hear a Chris Redfield tell me about wedding dresses lol
Friend of a friend at work was on it as a Bridesmaid. She confirms it's 100% straight, except there was a lot of sitting around. Like most reality shows they provided an open bar to make the time pass and lubricate the tongues, but unlinke most shows they only allowed one or two drinks.
0-90195 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a good friend who appeared as the "villain" of a segment (she is the SIL of the woman picking out the dress) and they totally hammed it up. She got to act like a complete bitch for dramatic effect.
Some episodes are staged. This story is of a woman who bought one of the most expensive dresses and was then called and asked to stage her buying it again for an episode. They also filmed her planning for the wedding and the wedding itself. She had to repeat lines multiple times and the edited a storyline in.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I LOVE Say Yes to the Dress! Randy is my abosolute favorite!
I used to love watching SYTTD until I found out that the voice over guy, Roger Craig Smith is the current voice actor of Sonic The Hedgehog. I am never going to unhear that.
Qieth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I watch it because my girlfriend watches it in the time when I get home from work and just want some peace and quiet! :P
I heard a different story. A few sorority sisters went on that show and said it was fairly scripted and heavily edited. The bride and dress shopping is real but that's about it.
Oh, I'm sure the conversations get edited-- I haven't had actual experience being filmed for the show-- but I meant the way they depict the store/consultants is real :) At least the times I've visited. I should've been more precise!
IT ALWAYS COMES ON AS IM COOKING DINNER AND ITS SO UPSETTING (while I'm far far far from 600 pounds, I'm still self conscious about my weight and that's the last thing I want to watch while eating.)
A friend of mine had an appointment there and said it felt like a factory line? The consultants are knowledgeable and nice, but (maybe because it's so crowded) there's a lot of waiting around behind a queue of girls and each one gets to the mirror for a few minutes before being whisked away.
Oh no!! :( Maybe she went for a trunk show? The times I've been, each group got their own couch and mirror-- but the factory line sounds like a nightmare, that's the last thing you want when you're trying to get that special feeling in your dress :(
SO and I are probably as far away as possible from marriage and proposals and stuff, but this show is my ultimate guilty pleasure. It makes me so happy that all the extravaganza is real.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's so awesome!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought that show was basically a horror movie. Those prices are insane and those people are insane for paying for even some of the cheapest dresses. I'm poor though so I guess my perspective is a little different.
While we were engaged my wife killed this show. The closer the date got the more she would watch it. Two weeks before the wedding it was guaranteed to be on the tv because she started recording every episode and would just sit and watch for hours. It makes me a little happy to know that at least she was watching real people instead of actors the whole time
So that poor guy who spent $60,000 on three wedding dresses for his fiancรฉ actually existed? Jesus...poor guy. I remember him 'joking' that he would have to get a second job to pay for it.
Also, if you're wondering, one for the ceremony, one for the reception and one for the socializing/dancing.
My friends were on there! It was awesomely dramatic bc one of the bridesmaids didn't like the rest. We had a viewing party and she didn't show up to the party and deleted her Facebook and Twitter the day the episode aired. Wedding went well though.
I've noticed in recent episodes that they've introduced a new young black dude as a consultant. And they've really pushed a conflict between him and Randy, like Randy trying to help him out and him pushing back with a "fabulous" attitude. That part has to be scripted in my mind, you know Randy stirs the drink among the consultants there and I can't imagine they would hire a new guy without him at least being somewhat involved in the interview process. But yeah the rest of the show seems legit.
A friend of mine was on SYTTD Atlanta and they made her look like a crazy person. She's a fan of Star Wars but they made her out to be obsessed with Princess Leah. The producers would ask her things like, "Would Princess Leah wear this dress?" and she would respond with something like "Oh no, Princess Leah definitely wouldn't wear a dress like this." But they only showed her response and not their original question to make it look like she was being critical of wedding dresses because she wanted to look like a fictional sci-fi character. They also made it look like the dresses she liked were ones they pulled, when in reality some of them were ones she had picked out.
She's actually a bridal seamstress in real life and didn't feel that the dresses she saw were worth the price tag to her. Of course the show would never imply anything but perfection about their own store so they went with making her a crazy lady instead. She didn't buy her dress there but had a very lovely wedding.
:( That sucks, I hope your friend had a lovely wedding regardless! I'd be so scared to go on the actual show (or any reality show), sometimes it seems like they pick people at random to edit into a weirdo/jerk. Show one distinguishable trait and they'll turn you into some cartoon character. I'm watching to see the dresses, not laugh at the people wearing them...
It's nice to know that SYTTD is legit. The people there seem really nice and helpful especially when dealing with conflicts between the bride and whoever else comes along.
I was appalled at the behavior of some women. IIRC there was a super religious grandmother slut shaming her granddaughter because GASP - she wanted a sleeveless (straight cut) dress. For a summer wedding.
Our friend was asked if she wanted to do say yes to the dress(likely because she's neurotic and would have made great tv) but she declined and got shitty service instead.
Now see my best friend was on the show and she said everything was scripted. They were told when to smile, when to complain, what to say, and even the dress wasn't the one she picked...
They must've been really boring. Haha.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is one of my favorite "lazy afternoon binges" and it makes me so happy to hear all this!!
Thank goodness! I've been watching that show for years and was worried it was a bunch of made up crap in real life!
kbol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah one girl I know shopped at the Atlanta store (Bridals By Lori) and was asked to be on. She only said no because they limited you to a certain number of dresses (I think 5?) but she saw other people filming while she was there and said it looked exactly like it did on TV, and lined up with her own in-person experience as well.
caitmac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love that show and you've made me so happy to know it's so real!
A high school acquaintance of mine was on the Atlanta version. I don't know what she told casting, but everything that came out of her and her mother's mouth was a lie. She wasn't even actually engaged.
Not quite a "reality show", but my girlfriend worked on a comedy panel show here in the UK called Celebrity Juice. She expected everything to be scripted and choreographed, but was actually shocked at the amount of improvised humor on set. Jimmy Car was the special guest - she said he was by far the most naturally funny man she had been in the company of...apart from me, of course. She's not usually a massive fan of his, so I guess that's a testament to his quick wit.
I saw "who's line is it anyway" live. Everyone was funny and nothing was really scripted, but the producers did have the guys do things over again when they got too filthy with their jokes
It still comes on!! You can still go see it! It doesn't have drew carey anymore but it has Ryan stiles , Colin mockery, and Wayne brady. It comes on the cw
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:49:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen it. It's...it's just not the same. I can't put my finger on it, but it's just not the same. It feels like it's trying too hard to be what it was before.
I hear they have some prep, but outside that, I think they said it's ad libbed
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 23:10:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I once spoke with an improv comedian who said if you can't come up with something on the spot, you can always fall back on stuff you've done a hundred times before.
Until television started going to town broadcasting improv serially, it wasn't a usual occurrence for most people to see more than one improv show in a given time period.
Meaning, the audience there that night knows the performers do that stuff for a living, but they weren't there last Tuesday night, so they weren't there to see when performer A used the same thing he did tonight because he knows it always kills and reliably makes him look like a genius.
Of course, it's not in their nature to make a habit of it-it defeats the purpose and robs them of the satisfaction of the challenge of their craft-but it's better than stammering in almost silence looking like an asshat.
Actually, that's pretty good advice. I'm trying to say "that's good advice in general" but I feel like my "in general" isn't really everyone's. I'm the kind of person who likes to entertain people by doing or saying unpredictable things. So, while my general method is "be unpredictable", it's still quite helpful to have some quick-and-simple jokes, or half-jokes that I can mold to fit the situation (or to not fit the situation). If you make a joke somewhere else, with other people, and it works really well, then that's one more joke you have to fall back on later.
One favorite of mine is actually the exact opposite of this advice. I had just walked into a dining hall after getting rid of some change by buying a timbit at Tim Horton's (actually, I got two for the price of one due to the cashier's generosity/apathy), and I immediately told three different groups of people the story of the bonus timbit. Then, every time somebody joined the group I sat down to eat with, I would tell them the story nearly verbatim. One of the people who was there from the start was going crazy by the third time he heard it because he was so tired of hearing it told in exactly the same way every time.
As an improviser, I can attest that this happens accidentally a lot too. Like, you do a scene about one thing, and it kind of sticks in your head, and then the next show you accidentally make the same kind of comment or set up the same kind of scene again. Tbh when it happens though, it's more of a "ugh fuck I wish I hadn't done that" thing than a "this is great, now we know what we're doing!" thing.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:17 on July 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think in his case he thought of himself as a comedian first, and improv artist second. Like, he'd do those kinds of gigs to sharpen his skill set, but it wasn't his focus or his strength. I think he meant more his approach because of the role it played for him as an individual.
With groups, I don't think anyone's getting into anything that hectic and crazy because they're lazy or like cutting corners.
Have you ever seen Set List? They take a stand up and flash them topics and they have to do five to ten minutes on the spot burning through the topics. It's amazing to see who is inventive, who does a good job in terms of presentation and reveals how much work their persona or delivery does for them, and who is very successful but can't think on their feet to save their life.
The challenges are pre decided but the guys get to improv everything. excpet when like I said they have to do it again because they got too filthy with it
Toidal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:00:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The first example will always crack me up. Colin slinking down to give Ryan the down and up, and then when Wayne goes down like the 3rd or 4th time and Colin sighs in resignation as he goes for him again.
Never understood what the joke was for the bird hitting Ryan's nose though
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 01:53:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fabio was the huge name back then for modeling those romance book covers, he broke his nose when he was riding a rollercoaster, and a bird flew into his face.
I've seen some outtakes when Ryan has gone too far. Some of his hoedowns bitching about doing another, one ending with "This is what I have to do; to please the fucking brit", and another one about slitting his wrists.
I had a drama teacher who went to second city who talked about Whose Line. As much as it is not scripted he basically said that of those improv games they play there are about 300 others that are also played in comedy/acting training so the 5-8 they do are relatively well rehearsed or it is easy to get comfortable with them.
I am quite surprised. That show always appeared heavily scripted and I never really enjoyed it because of that, even if it featured the same people as in NMTB or the Big Fat Quiz. Will give it another try.
Idk, I've been watching all these other shows and sometimes realized "yeah, that was prepared in advance", sometimes they even joked about it (think Intro Rounds in NMTB). Watching WLIA, I got the same vibe.
His laugh is the one thing I can't stand about him and it was made worse when he acknowledged it in one of his stand ups. He's hilarious but his laugh is like nails on a chalk board.
SepDot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:54:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm an American you recently discovered Jimmy Car due to his special being on Netflix. How do y'all deal with him. He's funny as hell but that goddamn laugh. I almost had to turned his special.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:10:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Saw him a few years ago, he asked for questions and ripped into a guy for being racist. Then made EVERYONE groan when he was asked what was his most offensive joke.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:41:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tartra ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:01:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just saw him in Ottawa! At one point in his show, he actively requested people to heckle him.
Yeah, no one was dumb enough to fall for that. Don't worry, he just started voluntelling some poor fools instead. It was awesome - and a great way to weed out the real hecklers early!
None of those panel shows ever looked scripted, they just look heavily edited.
The panelists make 200 jokes, and the best 30 make it to air.
I think they also ask the panelists before hand if they have any funny stories related to the material, and the host will ask them about it. That's about as scripted as it gets.
They need to bring 8 out of 10 cats back. I really want their take on Brexit.
The Last Leg has made sure we won't see 8 out of 10 cats again.
The countdown version will run and run, even though I think it's lost it's legs recently. But to go back to 8 out of 10 cats would be very anti-climatic. It was basically just mock the week with funny people instead.
It's basically 8 out of 10 cats without the quiz element. But nobody cared about the quiz anyway
A look back at the week's news. It's also live, so has audience interaction and has the up to the minute news. Has good guest, is quite informal at they really go for the jugular with some things.
His ability to improvise on stage is absolutely incredible. I have massive respect for anyone able to ad-lib in such a high pressure setting. Interactions with the crowd are a massive risk for stand-up comedians because the scope for things to go terribly wrong is so huge. Volunteering to do so is akin to climbing into the lion's den. But if you own those lions the crowd loves it.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:32:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's part of his shtick, and is a large reason why he is so successful. He used to have shows where it was 100% crowd work, where he wants the crowd to heckle him, just so he can retort. Was one of the funniest live shows I've ever been to, and hadn't even heard of him before that. I am definitely a huge fan of his now (His latest special on Netflix was great for anyone who hasn't watched it yet!)
It's a nice break from your average club comedian who will kick you out for heckling (not me, I don't heckle, but have been present to plenty)
I basically watch everything he does and he doesn't even repeat himself that much. You can see jokes that come from the various tv shows he hosts developing in to a routine but apart from those, it's all new all the time. He is genuinely talented on improvised jokes. Surprised he hasn't caught on in states, all the appearances on the late shows have been really good quality, allthou he is a LOT more stiff in US tv than in the home soil (and, lets' face it, if he has to censor himself, it ain't the same thing.. his "sweet guy-joke-joke-shock" he does is amazingly effective and refined).
Really? That is a surprise. But then again, i could haved lived in a bubble that hold the Aristocrats as the ultimate joke. In internet you get what you want and i do like offensive comedy so that might have lead me to the fringes.. no.. actually, i changed my mind, your friends have just too tame taste :) Jimmy is still quite average on the offensive scale.
Hmm i think i'll do some Carlin right now. Yeah, i know, different styles but both are/were masters of their own craft, which matters the most to me in the end.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:29:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not quite a "reality show", but my girlfriend worked on a comedy panel show here in the UK called Celebrity Juice. She expected everything to be scripted and choreographed, but was actually shocked at the amount of improvised humor on set.
Was she surprised that there is no Keith Lemon?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know you from the other thread- does your GF know about your channel yet? ;)
I went to watch something being filmed at the BBC a few years back ( cannot recall what it was, but Jack and Kelly Osbourne were guests that week)
I was expecting way more cuts and scripting TBH. But they filmed for 45 minutes had a couple breaks to give the presenters etc chance to stand up and move around, and the audience a break as well and they had comics come on to keep the audience amused during the breaks (they weren't great comics i guess small timers trying to make it or something) I never saw the final episode but i guess they cut the 45 minutes of footage down to a 20-30 minutes show and just edit the crap bits out.
But it seemed pretty genuine
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My boyfriend went to watch it live and said it was so boring he left half way through. Apparently there were a lot of 'breaks', a lot of 'clap/laugh now' cues and the celebrities were basically just getting drunk together as they all had beers/alcohol hidden under their desks.
Oh shit, I saw Jimmy Carr's 8 out of 10 cats live during the diamond jubilee special! I was amazed at how quick they all are with their lines, even the non-comedians are really fast on the trigger! We were there for about 4 hours, and they cut that down to 45 minutesโฆit's interesting to see what makes the cut, and what can never make the cut (Micky Flannigan crossed a lot of lines and it was brilliant).
loudot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen Edinburgh Fringe live versions of several British comedy panel shows over the years (Buzzcocks, Mock the Week, 9 out of 10 Cats etc) and I had the same impression (albeit from an audience perspective rather than behind the scenes).
I freaking love celebrity juice! (shatiiiing!) I've been to recordings of shows like Never Mind the Buzzcocks and Mock the week and none of it at all was scripted. Filming took around 3-4 hours to edit down to a 30 minute episode of all the best bits. The only slightly scripted parts were when they had to get the guests to repeat an answer if they didn't catch it or were at the wrong angle.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:26:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
apart from me, of course
Nice save!
akesh45 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:58:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This makes me think of the show @Midnight with Chris Hardwick. The guests and the host always seem to be coming up with pretty good lines, supposedly on the spot, but it happens so fast I always wonder if the people had time to think about what they were going to say ahead of time or if they really are that quick and funny.
[deleted] ยท 107 points ยท Posted at 16:54:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love that show. I have no idea why but its a guilty pleasure. It definitely is the most violent reality show I have ever seen. Everybody fights and they don't play around AT ALL. Lil' Scrappy's mom is fascinating.
sudonem ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:55:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh. I definitely don't wish anyone ill, however every one of those people felt to me like very low level life forms and whatever bad things happen to them will likely be of their own doing.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:00 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
is joselin hernandez a man or a woman ?
[deleted] ยท 706 points ยท Posted at 16:56:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I worked on an episode of Gordon Ramsay's Hotel Hell that was filmed in my town. I'm also friends with the owners of said hotel. From what I saw, It was pretty legit. The editing didn't push a narrative that wasn't already there and accurately depicted my friends and what was going on with their hotel. I went to the filmed re-opening and the only bad thing I can say is that Ramsay doesn't know shit about fried chicken. It was easily the worst I've ever had.
A friend was bitching that Kitchen Nightmares is so formulaic and predictable. Yeah, failing businesses tend to fail for a pretty standard set of problems.
I agree with this. I love Kitchen Nightmares but the way they edit it definitely makes things a little stale sometimes, even when there's a lot of nuances and differences. They definitely try to hit the same notes as focus points every episode.
sroasa ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:58:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The British episodes are much better than the American ones in this regard.
The editing in the British episodes makes it feel much more real. You get to know the people and their back story better, and it involves more than just yelling, crying, and breaking things.
I think the Amy episode had more going for it than just the editing. She and her husband were absolutely batshit crazy, and continued to be in a very public way well after the show left. It was highly entertaining.
Yeah, that itself was pretty surprising, but let's be fair. Those two restauranteurs worked very hard to make that episode as memorable as possible... By being completely insane.
Remember India, the very young Scottish chef who came over to Paris to help that utterly clueless now-a-hooker girl with the vegetarian restaurant? He did give her a job.
[deleted] ยท 138 points ยท Posted at 19:18:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I don't even think he's really an asshole. He just is no-bullshit. Honestly, if Gordon Ramsay came into my house and told me I was storing my tv remotes wrong, I would listen to him. lol
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:48:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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Waniou ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:16:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno, even in American shows, he can be pretty helpful. I used to watch Hell's Kitchen pretty religiously, and when the chefs were good, he was pretty damn supportive. He just had absolutely no tolerance for mistakes, especially not really basic ones.
I actually still think he comes across as helpful and understanding. He makes funny comments, but he still seems genuinely interested in helping people. His whole attitude reminds me of Jim Halpert. I feel like he should be looking into the camera with a "can you believe this shit?" sorta face.
Old British kitchen nightmares episodes are well worth your time to go back and watch. Much less a restaurant makeover show, he works on fixing the people and what is going on with them. Totally charming.
What about that nutty-ass Welsh couple who could literally not stop from fighting every 20 seconds? Oh man, that was awesome.
I mean, I've fought with waiters and cooks before, but contrary to popular belief and my own assertions herein, I do have an indoor voice. Neither of them does.
Although they were both so cute by the end. :)
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:05:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
If you have iTunes, you can get about 15 or 20 episodes there. I think they're on YouTube too. Search for "Kitchen Nightmares UK". I think you'll dig it.
I think a lot happens to come from the people he's trying to help. Though possible a result of creative editing or purposeful selection, a lot of the American restaurant owners and staff seem hot-headed and antagonistic while being resistant to change or are just shutting out reality, which causes Ramsay to ramp up the intensity to get through to them.
I don't blame him for getting annoyed or even angry on Hell's Kitchen. I mean, how stupid do you have to be to compete on that show and not know how to make his usual dishes perfectly? So when someone doesn't do the risotto or scallops right, really? And you're competing for what job, exactly? on whose show? Go home.
The thing is there are two different Ramsay personalities. On that one game show he does where the chefs compete for a job, he plays up the crazy type, but obviously still supports them.
However if you watch Hotel Hell and Kitchen Nightmares US, he doesn't do that. He does yell sometimes, or speak with tactless bluntness, but he also tries to support and help people. He just gets very angry with people who are lazy or not really trying, or 'hobbyists' pretending to be business people. Which he even says himself, so it's not a secret.
He's not really an asshole though. In HK he's just being a super tough boss bc that's the premise of the show which is to make it hard for the contestants. Even there he's cool outside of the kitchen.
I think it's more his strictness, bluntness, and honesty, though it definitely comes across as assholeishness more often than not.
There is a lot of false praise, backhanded complementing, and general nice-to-your-face, jerk-behind-your-back attitude in American culture, and it comes across as refreshing when you have someone who blatantly flies in the face of that. No "sorry", no "sweetie" or "honey", no "compliment sandwich", or passive-aggressiveness, just completely up-front and in-your-face about your flaws and shortcomings.
I know a lot of people who really wish it were more acceptable to be like that and that more people would be like that in real life. Almost everybody has at least some insecurities along the lines of "what if I'm really bad at this and everybody's just too polite to tell me?" And it's often incredibly hard to convince someone that any praise you're giving them is genuine.
So yeah, his TV persona represents a wishful-thinking ideal in some ways.
You want to watch some good Ramsay shows check out: The F Word, Gordon Ramsay's Ultimate Cookery Course, Gordon's Great Escape...these give you a totally different Ramsay then you see in the U.S.
You probably haven't seen more recent Ramsay shows, then. He's a big pussycat any more. Hell's Kitchen of course he's a dick but Kitchen Nightmares the last few seasons, and certainly Hotel Hell he's a super nice, caring guy. He might be abrasive at first, calling out problems and pulling people out of denial, but the way his demeanor is depicted has definitely shifted toward the nicer side.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:49:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love GR, but if the cameras weren't there, I doubt he's flying to the middle of bumfuck New Jersey to help some poor bastard figure out how to run his Greek diner.
Doesnt surprise me, thats something you really need dirty fryers and a near-condemned building to get right.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:31:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn skippy.
treexy ยท 83 points ยท Posted at 17:40:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Celebrity chef-dom, TV cooking personalities and the like are 90% image and 10% talent. Most cooking shows are not legit.
But I guess Gordon gets a pass on fried chicken since he isn't American, if someone tasked me with making spotted dick I'm pretty sure it would be horrible.
Well Ramsay has a bunch of Michelin stars and a chain of massively successful restaurants so I would say he's atleast as talented as he is entertaining.
Don't know about fake, but it is heavily edited. In one of the seasons in the US version, they showed one of Gordon's infamous freakouts, and in the background of the kitchen you could see a contestant cooking that was eliminated several weeks earlier.
One thing that always annoys me about Hell's Kitchen is how every single challenge comes down to the very last point, every single time. There's never a blowout win for one team or something. That's gotta be bullshit.
Half the time one of the teams fucks up so bad they just get sent packing! I'm not sure what Hells Kitchen you're watching but there is very often a clear winner. Both in the kitchen and in the challenges.
I'm sure there's some heavy editing and the people are specially picked to create conflict, but I hope the producers don't pre select for example recipes for contestants to cook. Since the prize is a job at one of Gordon's restaurants I guess the competition can't be too rigged.
I'd be willing to bet very good money that the contract they sign when they participate in the contest states that they will win a prize up to the value of the prize listed. Of course they're not going to put someone incompetent as a head/executive chef at their legitimate business. But if you read that article everyone listed was either given the position or given things that amount to what they would have earned in the position.
Just because the show says "they'll be head chef!" doesn't mean the legal documentation isn't different.
The issue with that is that they use filmed sequences out of order sometimes to heighten drama in Hell's Kitchen. So something may be filmed later but used earlier because there wasn't enough drama in the episode or etc.
As far as the prize thing, unfortunately shows that promise a job often have this issue. Just look at The Apprentice.
Well I don't know about you, but if I'm a multi-Michelin starred chef looking for my next protege to take over one of my restaurants, I'm probably not going to go looking for them in Retirement community kitchens or amongst "personal chefs" of dubious experience. Hell's Kitchen is super fake.
Gordon Ramsay has multiple Michelin star restaurants. You don't get those for being on tv. I agree many celebrity chefs are celebrities first, but Gordon isn't one of them.
Yeah but it is a bit of a chicken vs. egg kind of thing. He's good but would he be able to have so many restaurants if he wasn't raking in dough because of his celebrity status?
He had a few. I'm not saying that he didn't earn the ones he got post-fame, because that's not something handed out willy-nilly, but his fame certainly has given him the opportunity to expand on his successes in a way that many very good chefs don't get the opportunity to do.
Oh no doubt about it. Most restaurant owners would be lucky to have enough money to open up a second location let alone a whole new business. Running a business like that isn't easy, and I think the revenue from some of the TV that he's done has allowed him freedom in this regard to expand more on his restaurant business in case something ever happens with his TV stuff.
I think he understands that his TV stuff is more-or-less flash in the pan level fame. It's not sustainable. Someone better at what he's doing on television will come along eventually. It's why I think he's opted for a softer persona with shows like Hotel Hell.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:55:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Some of his new one-off YouTube videos F-word shows are pretty awesome.
Last two weeks or so, he's A)hunted his own pigeon and cooked it in the field, B)trapped, killed, cleaned, and cooked a wild boar in the field at Fort Benning, Georgia, and C)completed an obstacle/endurance training course with the Royal Marines and then cooked the lads lunch.
he's not american, fried chicken is kind of an american specific thing
hunty91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do Americans really think we eat spotted dick all the time? I don't think I've ever even seen spotted dick. Anywhere, ever. Except as a joke in Hollywood films.
Lol, it's probably the same as any article about American foods and/or eating habits. We aren't chowing down on squirt cheese and deep-fried-everythinginthefridge on a daily basis, or really outside of an actual outing to an event where something like that is just part of the appeal (city/county fairs, carnivals, etc.).
The guy that owned four seasons in Vermont was wasted out of his mind. At one point his face changed colors like a rainbow. You can't fake that, Ramsey even commented on it, but like everything else is was one real moment in a sea of make believe.
I remember eating at a restaurant that he did in kitchen nightmares, this was before he actually did the episode and in the episode he finds like 2 or 3 mice in the restaurant. That was 100% real since i remember looking at the side of my booth at one point and seeing a dead mouse just lying by my seat.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:37:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I watched that episode and felt sorry for the couple. How are they doing these days?
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:15:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, mostly the same. Sukie's back in the kitchen after a couple of pretty short stints by other chefs. Dave's Dave. He's one of my favorite damn people. Curses like a sailor, smokes enough to have his own Surgeon General's warning, and is always quick to laugh. Unless you piss him off - then he'll drop you like a bad bean pie. They finally have a good bar manager but the traffic just isn't where it needs to be. I think Ramsay was right in that they've never quite grokked Starkville and their business still suffers because of it.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:57:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think Ramsay was right in that they've never quite grokked Starkville and their business still suffers because of it.
I think you are right. I was there when they tried having a Sunday brunch that IIRC was $50 a person. To make things worse, they tried it first on Mother's day and had a good turnout. The problem is, Mother's day is in May. Right as Starkville dies for the summer. So it languished for a couple of months. It was good, very good. But it wasn't $50 good and $50 a person is a LOT of money for Starkville.
I remember telling Suki it was just too expensive for Starkville. She told me that if the Peabody in Memphis could get $75 a person, she saw no reason they couldn't get $50. She just couldn't grasp that very few people in Starkville had the wherewithal and the inclination to drop $50 on a meal. It just isn't that kind of town.
Hell, for me a big time meal out was Pap's Place. Which if you have not been to, you are missing out.
That breaks my heart :'( I hope they were at least able to make some ends meet. I don't know the school colors there but I presume they're white and red, and I just hope they'll eventually be able to tap into the community :/
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like that you, like, like.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:01:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aww, I loved that episode. Sukie seems adorable. Her sushi looks... not good though.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:27:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The show definitely did exhibit a couple of her more unusual creations. I've heard her sushi complimented by travelled people on more than one occasion.
A friend of mine and here mom were on Restaurant Impossible. At one point her mom was accused by one of the diners of handing a spoon over with her thumb on the bowl of the spoon. Her mom claimed she didn't do it (Why would she hold the spoon like that? the spoon came on the plate with the bowl of soup) but they had her film it anyway. They ended up not using it in the final cut as the problem with the restaurant really had nothing to do with the wait staff so it didn't fit the plot of the episode. The final cut was pretty accurate to the restaurant's problems.
That place ended up closing a few months later, largely because the problems they had (bad location, drama between the owners, one of the owners drinking as much of the wine/liquor as they sold every night) can't be solved by someone else. Any solutions suggested had to be enacted by the owners and they weren't. It wasn't just a matter of fixing the menu or updating the decor.
Starkville? Hell yes! I had a friend that worked on that episode. He made him go buy a couch from an IKEA in Atlanta and then didn't even use it so my homie took it home with him. Makes for a good story.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Heh, I know homie. I figured it might have been him since I knew his mom had to make that trip. I didn't know he got a couch out of it, though! Did he tell you about Gordon offering to try to get him laid?
My wife and I love the beer garden there were went like once every other week because there isn't anything else to do when you're stationed at Columbus and don't like hunting or football
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's just like that - except that he curses a lot more.
Michae1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Weird. They shot an episode of Kitchen Nightmares at a place I frequent and the employees I spoke to said it was dreadful. I've never talked to the owner about it firsthand, but the employees have said she is prohibited from discussing it to anyway. They said only a handful of them were chosen to be in the episode and that many of "customers" were brought in my the producers, and coached to react appropriately. Ramsay spent very little time at the restaurant when they weren't shooting and shortly after he left they had to undo most of the scripted changes. Their opinion of him afterward was not high.
My friend was in a celebrity chef cooking show and the audience get to try some of the food that the chef cooks and he said the food tasted bland and a little under cooked. Its possible since they are just throwing the ingredients quickly and trying to get the show done with so many distractions. He also been to the chef's restaurant and its no where the same as the one he tasted on the show.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I worked there just couple of years before that. I am what I am today because of the kindness of David and Suki.
either it got a whole lot worse quickly or they definitely spun the shit out of it.
Although the giant sushi roll was real and a terrible idea, the rest was very good.
aithni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A fellow Starkville redditor!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely. He completely redid their outside Beer Garden and made it all quaint and shit. It's really lovely. The lobby was spruced up as were a few(?) of the rooms. It's definitely nicer.
advents ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you elaborate on the chicken part
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:22:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was. . .double fried. As in: it was battered, fried, battered again, and fried again. This was my understanding, anyway. In any case, the presented chicken breast had an armor class of no more than 2.
Hotel Chester! That's one of my favorite episodes of Hotel Hell.. the owners seem like such awesome sweet people. I hope the hotel is still doing well!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:06:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They were really the most wonderful people I ever dealt with in my life. Three years working for them, and they took very good care of me.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This was the post I was looking for... So happy to hear that. Just started watching the new season of hotel hell and it's brilliant. Had only seen the uk and us 'kitchen nightmares' shows before and loved them.
Always Seems genuinely authentic, so good to have it confirmed.
Ramsay doesn't know shit about fried chicken. It was easily the worst I've ever had.
South Carolinian here. I agree with nearly every judgment Ramsay has about food, but he clearly has no palette for southern cooking. I've seen him criticize catfish, shrimp and grits, fried chicken, and others. Not even the cooking, but the dish itself.
Everything. Every single thing is fake. I was on a cake competition show. The judges recorded 2 takes for every comment, one positive and one negative so the editors could put it together however they wanted. They rolled the clock back an hour so everyone else could finish. We had over three months to plan our "spontaneous" cake. Oh yeah, and while we won by the judges vote...a producer decided one of the other cakes would film better for the big reveal so we didn't win even though we should have.
Please don't tell me you were on The Great British Bake Off. That's the only reality show I truly love (although I'm sure those producers are just as bad)
ldn6 ยท 516 points ยท Posted at 17:24:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If Ian was unfairly booted off in series five because Bingate was intentional so help me...
I've always been fairly well convinced that bingate was overblown because the only contestant to come to Iain's defense was Jordan (who had already been eliminated), while the rest of them either stayed out of it or defended Diana. It definitely seemed like it was an editor giving in to the style of reality show editing that GBBO watchers seek to avoid.
[deleted] ยท 171 points ยท Posted at 18:50:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This has always pissed me off that he was made out to be some sort of hothead while nothing was made of Diana going to HIS freezer, taking out his bake and putting hers in! Yet he was the one in the wrong! Apparently it was only out for a minute but so what! It shouldn't have been out at all!
If he'd managed to control his anger enough to present something, I think they would have given him the benefit of the doubt. But when his reaction to the issue was to pitch it entirely, he sealed his own fate. Especially since if you watch, his ice cream wasn't setting even when it was in the freezer prior to assembly. Perhaps it would have worked if left alone, but it seemed like the writing was on the wall that his ice cream wasn't going to set.
It also didn't help that he was fairly rude to Sue as he was throwing it away. She was trying to help him and he responded with a snide "I've got a serving suggestion" as he tossed it. While he may have had reason to be angry, his inability to control where he directed it was the real issue.
[deleted] ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 22:15:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He even said in an interview that it wasn't because it had been pulled out, it was because he had messed up the recipe and so he knew he was going to get the boot and was frustrated.
That isn't what happened at all. It was her freezer and it was out for less than a minute before Ian noticed and had a strop. Diana didn't deserve any flack.
This is inaccurate. The contestants had no assigned freezers because a couple had broken and they didn't have enough for each station to have its own. She claimed it was her freezer because it was close to her station but all the freezers were fair game for all contestants.
The ice cream had been out of the freezer for about 30 seconds so it wouldn't have made any difference. Although it was a bit scummy to remove it from the freezer without saying anything.
Also he had been completely on tilt for the entire weekend. Also if he was unable to maintain his composure during this early week how the hell would he manage during the later weeks. Plus he had nothing to offer the judges which has NEVER happened before.
Nahh he put his bake in her freezer IIRC... That's why nobody kicked up a fuss, she needed room to put her bake in, so taking his out was fair. Telling him could have been a good idea however (if she knew)
Also begs the question as to why there was no room in his fridge... Strange
There were not enough working freezers for all contestants to have one at their station. They had to share. The freezer in question was the one closest to Diana's station, hence people saying it was "hers."
I agree. I do think Diana was in the wrong for moving his shit but apparently it wasn't out for as long as people thought so it's more likely failed because of something he did rather than Diana.
It was out for a minute on a hot day, the cameras shown the state of the ice cream. Its crucial that it can't rise in temperature when its supposed to be setting like that, or it won't set.
Right, but my point is that of the people in the tent on the day, no one came to Iain's defense. To me, it speaks volumes that the only people on his side were the ones who only saw the edited version.
No-one came to his defense because his side Is/Was wrong.
He had a meltdown in the tent. He threw his Baked Alaska in the bin. He failed to provide anything to be judged. He showed that when things go wrong, he was unable to cope. And while it may have been Diana's fault, Ian showed that he was the less suitable person to go through.
Diana became a fully fledged pantomime villain after that episode aired.
powmj ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:26:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I seriously think it could lead to our country descending into anarchy
Omvega ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:35:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I still think it was his own fault. Everyone was having trouble with their ice cream, he just got fucked harder. He could have still presented his other parts and wowed in the other rounds
Zootzz ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:10:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All the contestants went out for dinner and she fell over, severing a nerve in her head that meant she couldn't taste anymore so she pulled out of the show.
What? That sounds very suspect, what is the chance that you sever a nerve affecting your taste buds while you're in the middle of a cooking/baking show?
Eh, I don't know. She severed her olfactory nerve. I think it may be somewhat more common in older people? But don't quote me on that, I could be misremembering.
I'm Ian's cousin. He's pretty sure the producers encouraged whatshername to take his cake out off the freezer to create drama. He's wasn't interested in fighting on camera so he binned it and walked.
They new he was a popular character and drummed up interest surrounding.
Did you know he had an affair with Marcela Valladolid (she is on "The Kitchen" now) immediately after starting the recording for the US version of the show? They carried it on the entire time they filmed. Eventually, he repented and his wife took him back. I always knew something wasn't right with him.
Lokifin ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:58:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am not surprised by this. He's the type of person I would always be giving the side eye to, especially if he were my boss. Enthusiastically supportive until he cuts your feet out from under you without a twitch.
My uncle was on the American version of the Great British Bakeoff that was on CBS. From what I've been told the guy is a complete jerkoff. Cheated on his wife with one of the other hosts and was incredibly condescending and elitist.
Jamie Oliver's style is homecooking, so not sure why that's an insult. Sure, he has restaurant chains now, but he's not cooking in those kitchens, it's all about the brand.
One of my favourite celebrity cooks is Nigel Slater. He makes simple, well thought out meals. Slater isn't a chef, but being a 'home cook' hasn't harmed his career!
Jamie oliver is bullshit though, those 15 minute meals he does. 15 minutes my arse, its only 15 minutes if the majority of prep is done for you and you have all the expensive gadgets that he has.
Once you factor in all that its jamies 45 minutes to hour meals not including washing up. Ive been to his restaurant too, its nice but its just pretentious, expensive shit.
That's true of most recipes though, not just Jamie. I made a yotam tart the other day that involved caramelising garlic. 10 mins of cooking the garlic then 10 minutes for them to caramelise? Bullshit, Yotam! More like 30 minutes of increasingly frantic stirring and wondering 'is it sticky yet?'. End result was phenomenal though.
Can confirm, made my own marshmallows one time. Ten minutes of whisking should give you nice stiff peaks. Yeah if youre dwane johnson, more like an hour of the most intense arm workout ever to get floppy peaks.
Have you seen the documentary on her from a couple of years ago? She's literally Light embodied, and when she talked about her son dying from a car accident, it was the saddest thing I've ever seen on TV as her voice slightly broke.
From hearing contestants speak the most fake part of the show is how many people are really in the tent. It's full or runners doing various tasks such as washing up. those shots of them watching each other across the tent aren't really like that, there's loads of people between them.
Sue really is as much of a hinderance as she appears on the show.
I have a full lesbian crush on Sue. (actually, I kinda just want her to take me under her wing and be my gay cake loving Yoda. You should check out "The Mekong River with Sue Perkins" if you can, it's a wonderful documentary, very open minded and humble.)
There's a running (6 years now) twitter gag when I see her in Edinburgh (where I live) during the Fringe about her stalking me. Or the years when I haven't seen her out and about, I congratulate her improving inconspicuousness. She plays into it brilliantly :D
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:46:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Totally irrelevant but nice username! Jackals are the best!
I don't think he's talk about The great british baking show, because they are very upfront about the fact that contestants can prepare and study at home before the competition.
smootie ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:12:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wish more American reality shows would give contestants time to prep and study (or be more up front about it at least).
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:06:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:52:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But the technical challenge is supposed to be spontaneous. Based on how poorly the technical challenges go, I would have to guess they really don't know in advance.
According to Wikipedia, they dumbed down the title for US airings.
For some reason that reminds me how the American narrator in Kitchen Nightmares always says "Chef Ramsay" at every turn. Y'know, for celebrity name recognition and in case the audience forget he's a chef.
Ha I'm addicted to the US version of Kitchen Nightmares right now and I did wonder why they keep calling him Chef Ramsey. It seems really fake. I can somehow get past all the phony drama and the fact that every single second has background music but Gordon being called Chef Ramsey every time his name is required bugs the hell out of me.
Just the American way of naming people. Like Americans would refer to "Prime Minister Cameron", when there's not one British person who has ever uttered that in their lives. It would always be "The Prime Minister" or "David Cameron"
The BBC can't risk faking things any more. They had a few high profile scandals where shows were apparently fixed, favouritism played a part, or it turned out that a contestant was related to a BBC employee and didn't disclose it so they are incredibly careful these days.
They even moved Top Gear from their factual banner to their entertainment banner so they didn't need to worry about some of the staged stunts they do.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:03:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heard Jonny Vaughn talk about his experience on the celebrity version during one of his radio shows on Xfm (or Radio X if you prefer) recently.
He went on to say it is very fake, Paul is a prick, him and Mary only turn up for five minutes at the end of the day and it's a bad experience.
I doubt it. I have friends who have worked on it and I work on other BBC productions from time to time, there are many rules about how things are put together. Dont get me wrong im sure there is some trickery but recording a positive and negative comment for every cake and then the editor making the decision as to what way it will go seems very unlikely.
Editors and directors create reality tv. The reason why the "confessions" you see on a show like The Real World all take place in the same room is so the editor can create the story they want/need. It's also why the confessing person always wears the same outfit when confessing.
My Brother has edited a ton of reality TV. Im waiting to hear back about the positive/negative comment thing. He did 6 seasons of food competition shows so if it's standard he'd know.
I think the point u/honey-badger is making is that the BBC has strict rules about what it can/cannot do because it is publicly funded. The rules are much stricter for the Beeb than for commercial tv stations.
Yes and that effects nothing in terms of reality tv unless the UK has quiz show laws like the USA. Survivor can't be fixed as it's an actual competition
Turns out for Chopped they film the whole conversation and then my brother would create what he could from it. He said that a negative take was often hard on that show as often the chefs were very positive.
Aiku ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Welcome to Amerika, comrade.
We decide who wins the cake prize, based on numerous focus groups.
The only thing i've ever heard from behind the scenes is that whoever is filming the follow up bit at the end in the garden when they're happy/sad/humble hates it because as soon as filming is over everyone descends on the leftovers and they get left with nothing!
I found them on that website related to skulls and bones and a ship... It took a while to get the first 4 seasons but I got them. AFAIK Netflix has season 5, which is season 1 for Americans, and back then the BBC had the current episodes for Season 6 (2 US).
QSector ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:37:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of the only torrents I haven't thought to check. BBC and PBS have nothing at the moment. I think Netflix and Amazon both have the same season available right now which I've seen. Thx!
I doubt it. American reality TV is usually scripted/creatively edited like that, but British TV is generally less fake. One way you can see the difference is by watching UK and US versions of Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are still plenty of UK shows that get up to creative fuckery in order to push a narrative.
I am so mad that I accidentally spoiled this season :( Damn you Wikipedia!
GiftTag ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:27:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The goddamn New York Times spoiled the most current season for me way back when it aired in the UK. It just now started airing in the US and I can't even fully enjoy it. ๐ก
I'm not 100% certain, but I don't think of-com would allow the production company to change the judges' vote, it would undermine the legitimacy of the competition. BBC shows are heavily regulated, due to public funding. For example, they're not allowed to advertise. The show previously had a scandal because Smeg donated all the cooking equipment for the show, which is essentially an endorsement, that they are not allowed to offer.
Edit: Spelling
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I bet it's Masterchef, and more than anything, I bet it's Masterchef Australia, the bunch of lying bastards!
J00ls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gordon Ramsay said his US show was fixed whereas his UK one wasn't on an appearance on the Jonathan Ross show.
Iirc Ted Allen and several contestants have said it is as real as real can be, that when you see them open the baskets that is straight up the first time they've seen the ingredients and the rounds really are the times they say they are.
shaunc ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:26:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Chris Santos did an AMA recently and also said that the contestants don't know the ingredients until they open the baskets.
Sorta, they get like a list of 5 potential items that could be the secret ingredient, but it's only about an hour before they start cooking. I mean unlike chopped where they only have to prepare one meal in the time that they see the basket, the iron chef people have to make a full course.
So personally I think it's fair that they get a general sense of what it will be or else they wouldn't really have time to get done
I think that has to be Iron Chef, like you said. They show the chefs with ingredients they've brought with them, so they have to have some idea of what the main challenge is going to be.
It's not. Reality TV is not real. They are real chefs, cooking real food, but 99% of the drama is planned. Sometimes something real will happen but chances are the cameras missed it. So they'll rewind it back and fake it anyway. That's how reality TV works. It's a cheap way to make money off of chumps on couches.
jkersey ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 23:53:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I swear, there's always one chef that sees Scott Conant and thinks, "I can make him like raw onions. No one has ever prepared them right. I can do it."
And didn't Scott Conant use onions when he competed on Chopped? Son of a bitch was laughing about it too.
grubas ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:29:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair the judges competing is funny, because they all know and work with each other. They are cracking jokes and give them ingredients they hate. Conant would use onions and I think somebody ribbed him for it.
There sort of is when they ask the contestants "why they want to win today."
I hate those sob stories. I don't give a shit about your background or what you're going to put that money toward if you win. I'm sorry your mother who taught you how to cook is dead, but you are not winning any of my sympathy that way. I wanna see you COOK.
Well apparently YOUUUUUU didn't see the episode where the guy dropped a tbone on the floor, and then fucking PLATED it for the judges after they saw him do it and he knew they saw him do it.
So how do they choose which plates go to which judges? One of those plates ends up hidden for the reveal. The plate with the dropped steak could be the reveal plate. No one has to eat it.
I remember there was this one guy that was a complete fucking snob. The way he spoke to the judges, and treated the other contestants... You'd fucking think he was scripted. This was a few years back and he was so painful to listen to it was cringe-y.
Was that the one who voted no to letting the judges taste one of the other chef's components that she'd forgotten to plate? Because if so fuck that guy. All the others were fine with it and he's like "I just don't think it's fair" or something.
I remember watching an episode (might have been chopped Canada) where there was this really snobby guy that was completely full of himself. Talking about how he is a celebrity chef, has cooked numerous meals for the queen of England... etc. etc. Like he had no doubt in his mind that he was going to win. He ended up losing and in the exit interview he looked like he was in complete disbelief. Mumbled a few things that I can't remember that generally pissed me off. He also sabotaged this other chick who looked like the sweetest woman over who was struggling because she was distracted by her son being ill. She ended up winning which made me pretty happy. I really hope it was real, if my memory is correct she was a cooking instructor.
Don't remember his (sir douchebag's) name, but I remember during the intro he had a plate of bone marrow (or maybe it was on the actual show?) Literally it was a giant chunk of bone marrow in the bone about the size of a forearm with a few raw veggies beside it.
but I remember during the intro he had a plate of bone marrow (or maybe it was on the actual show?) Literally it was a giant chunk of bone marrow in the bone about the size of a forearm with a few raw veggies beside it.
I remember one contestant who clearly thought one of the ingredients was beneath him (it was some kind of candy) and spent the whole time making smarmy comments about how he would never eat such a thing himself.
Dude the show is about giving you weird stuff and seeing what you come up with. If you want to make filet minion go find another show.
That's my confusion with the show: If you want to be on it, you have to be prepared for anything. There's fucking vegans who've had to work with meat, Jews who had to work with pork, and people with food allergies that don't prevent them from working with it but can cause problems if consumed (As far as I know; I may be incorrect there).
At the very least, the latter two apply. Get the fuck over yourself.
In general, I'm always baffled by people who do something but then complain that a fairly-obvious feature of that something is a problem or bothering them.
and people with food allergies that don't prevent them from working with it but can cause problems if consumed
Was it on Chopped where there was a contestant that had an allergy to one of the ingredients so he had to ask other contestants what the food tasted like and make a dish only on that information? He couldn't taste-test his own dish during preparation either because of it. (This is only second-hand information I saw a few times here on reddit which is why I'm unsure.)
I watched an episode recently that had 4 people on it representing various religious faiths. One was a Jewish man who very strictly observed Kosher rules. Since the kitchen itself wasn't Kosher, he couldn't taste any of his food. He asked the nice nun next to him to taste his food a couple of times. Once, she suggested he should add some salt. He didn't, and the judges later called him out on a lack of salt. It was a pretty cool episode.
He couldn't taste-test his own dish during preparation either because of it. (This is only second-hand information I saw a few times here on reddit which is why I'm unsure.)
Can't give you specifics about what you asked, but I do know that the aforementioned religious/vegan individuals would comment on their inability to ensure their food was of a fair quality due to personal or spiritual philosophy preventing it.
It is. The contestants get a list of what might be in baskets so they can pre plan, but it's like Iron Chef, they have no idea what combinations of indlgrediants they will get.
A friend of my sister was on that show and she said it was almost exactly like you see on the show. The one bit she did complain about is they milk you to try to come up with some sort of sad story as the reason you want to win, like "my kid brother has cancer", or "i'm doing this to prove everyone wrong after being a drug addict", etc.
I actually once met one of the people who buys the food for the baskets, they buy the stuff that morning before filming and the people really don't know what is going to be in the baskets.
Also, apparently there is plenty of leftovers after the show and the general staff is allowed to eat it at the end of the day
It's real but it's not fair. My brother was on it, and he was the last chef to present his dish. The judges complained that it was dried out. No shit, it was sitting under a heat lamp for the past 45 minutes, of course it wouldn't seem as "fresh" as the first presenter.
Also, the chef with the biggest sob story won.
He doesn't regret his experiences, but the judging wasn't on an even playing field.
The one thing that annoys in cooking competition shows is that every team ALWAYS finishes at the very last second. Never will you see someone not finish on time and present a crappy unfinished meal and you will also never see someone finish 10 minutes early and wait around like a jackass for the others to finish.
The one time I saw this happen on Chopped, the judges tore into the guy for wasting the last two minutes standing around instead of seeing what else he could do to improve his dish.
Exactly.. improve garnishes, rethink the plating. Just trick the normal viewer by furiously zesting a lemon or chopping the fuck out of some parsley, shredding a wheel of parmesan, something!
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:01:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As somebody who works in video production... these cooking shows are either a mind bending spectacle of videography or very deliberate and staged contest.
My favorite thing is when they switch from one shot to a shot that should be on the exact opposite side of it but neither shot includes the opposing camera man.
Ruinga ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:56:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Filmed by ghosts. That's why you can't capture them on film, they have the cameras!
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 21:09:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You just know he would have gotten grief either way.
"I saw you adding something right at the end, did you originally plan to put Paprika on this?".
"No but I finished with extra time so.."
"So you decided to undercut the dish you planned and executed because you were faced with extra time and weren't confident enough in what you prepared to just let it sit?"
A strange game. The only wining move is not to play.
Couple of the judges bug me because they always have something negative to say even when everyone else gives the dish nothing but praise.
I guess it is probably the producers wanting to give a "Simon Cowell moment" and it all not be perfect, but it always seems to fall to the same judges. Makes them seen really nitpicky, especially when one of their complaints seems rather trivial.
Ruinga ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:57:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The grill marks on the meat don't intersect to create perfect 90 degree angles. You've been chopped.
That's actually why Chopped is my favorite cooking competition. A lot of contestants regularly don't finish their dish, and present sloppy looking dishes, and some contestants finish early, and get scolded by the judges for not using every second to perfect their dish.
Also, based on contestant reviews, they're actually put on the spot when it comes to their ingredients and have to think of a meal on the fly.
I really enjoy Chopped. My ex loved watching those cupcake shows and you can tell how fake they are, like I'm watching drama on a cupcake competition show, come on now.
No I dont. It might have been one of the old lady challenges. She was a black woman with short hair in her 60s. Pretty sure the other competition was an old lady who ran a mash restaurant.
On Chopped they're given 9 possible ingredients for each course in advance of filming. The 3 mystery ingredients are always on the list of 9 so that the chefs have some sort of idea going in.
It pretty clear that the finishing at the last second schtick isn't completely genuine though. Chopped may be a tiny bit more "real" than some other reality cooking shows but only by a hair. Sure there are some chefs who finish early or don't get everything on the plate, but 90% of episodes have the last cut before the 00:00 countdown as the chefs just getting in their final ingredient at the last second, all together then raising their hands. This happens season after season, the exact same shot at the exact same "time."
I don't have concrete proof but since it's on the Food Network and shouldn't be held to any different standards, I have no reason to believe Chopped isn't just as fake as all the other scripted cooking reality shows some other participants in this thread are talking about (though I still enjoy the shit out of it.)
It's an interesting show, but I wouldn't judge someone's ability to cook through it, it's more like a game show, with the politics and sometimes random athletics or problem solving. I'm not sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was partially rigged.
Ive seen both of those things happen on Chopped pretty regularly actually. The finishing early is rare but I've seen a lot of contestants not plate their food in time.
I think the finishing early is a lot more common than the editing makes it seem. You can regularly see it cut from early plating to garnish as it counts down the last 10 seconds. I assume a lot of those shots were taken much earlier and then re ordered
Yeah, that show feels a lot more real because sometimes their chicken just doesn't cook in time or they plate rice that's barely cooked.
On shows like Kitchen Nightmares it seems like it's impossible for them to finish and yet everyone somehow does. On Chopped if you start way too late, your food is raw or not on the plate.
Never seen that show. Sounds like its better then Hells Kitchen though where both teams finish at the same time AND everyone manages to plate their food perfectly in the last 10 second of the countdown.
Jaylous ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:15:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, ive seen a cooking competition where a girl didnt plate her entire meal, because she put it on the wrong plates. I think the finishing early isnt as rediculous as you would think, especially when the judges are watching. If you dish wasnt perfect and you finish early i would think it would look bad, and also i think people have a pretty good idea on how long stuff will take to cook, and their isnt alot of time to begin with, so they plan to finish closer to the end to have the food be as fresh as possible. and they prob spend a good bit of time plating when they can since it counts.
jedify ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:19:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Are the contestants on Chopped really supposed to get the list of ingredients right before time starts, then they improv? If so, I'm calling bullshit, they never show anyone sitting around thinking, freaking out about what to make (that I've seen). They all just go rushing off once time starts, even on the kid's version.
It's a fast paced competition. Of course they go rushing, but they're freaking out during. That's like all you hear them say in the interviews. "These ingredients suck and I have no idea what to make so I'm winging it."
My best friend is a chef and he has gone on several interviews where he gets a mystery basket and has to make a dish on the fly as his interview so it's likely something they have done before.
They're chefs, running around and figuring things out on the fly is what they do. Even if they're not exactly sure what to do with all their ingredients they'll probably spot out something they'll immediately have an idea for and can start grabbing stuff
It's not that difficult to whip something up as the main basis for the dish: bake, satueรฉ/fry, grill, boil. So when they see the main "protein", for example, they already know how they're going to START preparing it, which buys them some time to get creative.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 23:15:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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jkersey ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:55:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not true at all.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:22:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've definitely seen at least one cooking show where a contestant got ripped a new one for serving undercooked meat. Not just poorly plated but straight up, not finished cooking to the point of being a health hazard.
raviary ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:51:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've noticed the fake editing of that on Masterchef. In the background of someone else's shot you'll see a contestant plating their chicken or whatever then five minutes later watch them do it again from a different angle "at the last second".
I've seen that happen on GBBO. Sometimes they have someone that finished early so they help out someone else who is struggling and I've also seen them present a bake that they've barely had time to throw together on a plate.
Hells Kitchen fan by any chance? Haha your totally right. In all of the episodes in all of the season of that show, I haven't seen 1 instance of the two teams that compete finishing early or late. They always finish at the exact same time and it really makes you stop and realize how fake what you are watching is. And to add to your point, they also always show members of both teams FRANTICALLY rushing to finish their dishes as a 30 second countdown ensues and it always shows people literally finishing preparing their dishes the second the time runs out. So your telling me that not only have both teams finished at the same time in every challenge for the hundreds of episodes, they also have all finished plating their meals in the last 5 seconds of the countdown? Lmfao
kerred ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that too, but being the efficient person that I am, I would always make use of every minute if I could. My guess is most finish with maybe with a few minutes to spare, and then make it look like the last second.
Great ____ Bake Off you see this ! Most do finish at the last second, but I have seen unfinished dishes presented, as well as finishing early and helping others, sitting watching.
Then you have never watched masterchef Australia. I have seen that happen several times.
SP_57 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen both those things happen on Iron Chef America.
I wonder how real that show is?
tmking9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:40:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then you watch cutthroat kitchen. People don't finish all the time or even have like a 5 course BBQ meal cooked but not judge except for his beans and corn because it was not on the plate yet. The thing is you don't want to be done to early so the temperature will still be right.
Well they just know how to time everything so it's all finished cooking at the same time. You probably do this at home without realizing it. You don't make all your mashed potatoes first and THEN stick your roast in the oven for an hour, ya know?
inceee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:17:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also when they do that 'surprise' round where the judge asks you to do souffle or stuff. Hell, what if I don't know how to make a souffle? Why does every contestant seem to know all the recipes in the world?
Whaat? All of these things happen a lot on chopped. Most of the time it's the latter- sometimes people just throw shit on their plate, leaving a mess. Hardly anyone finishes early because they barely have enough time to make the dish in the first place, any extra time is spent making a sauce or something
Happened on Cutthroat Kitchen. One guy didn't finish plating his BBQ. All he had time to plate was beans. Sometimes people forget to take things out of the oven.
I've seen plenty of folks not finish on time. They leave something on the stove or in the oven. They forget a basket ingredient. They do finish all of their ingredients, but don't leave enough to plate correctly, so basically just throw everything on the plate and it all looks like crap.
Reality TV feels like the new wrestling to me. Most people know it's totally fake, though some defend it as real. But either way it draws a consistent audience
No one defends wrestling as "real" in the way you are thinking of "real". Yes, the outcome is predetermined, but so was the outcome of Breaking Bad. They don't even attempt to tell people the stories are real anymore. The twitter bio of one of their highest ranking executives used to say "I play a bad guy on TV". The cat is out of the bag and they know it.
What is real about wrestling is the toll it takes on the wrestlers bodies. A wrestling ring is not a soft thing to land on. It fucking hurts. And those guys aren't just taking bumps in the ring. They regularly take bumps on cement and metal ramps. While they do all they can to protect each other, it still hurts when they get in the back with a chair or if they jump off the top turnbuckle and land on someone. They don't even have to fuck up for it to hurt. That shit hurts when you do it correctly. They have no off season, no summer hiatus. They are on the road and getting the shit kicked out of them 52 weeks a year.
They don't even get the benefit of reshoots. They have one chance to do what they set out to do. If they fuck up, the crowd will literally start screaming "YOU FUCKED UP" at them. If people would look at the sport without all of the preconceived notions they have about it, they would see that it is very much an artform.
Seriously if you look up things like "Worst Wrestling Injuries" on YouTube you see just how much of a physical impact every move has the potential of doing, if it goes even slightly wrong. The results are pre-determined but I feel like calling it "fake" really undermines how much a wrestling match hurts these guys
I don't know man, spending a little bit in a dude's shorts, then being thrown to someone in the crowd who will essentially put you in a shrine? Sounds way better than how Mick had it haha
It's a shock that Mick Foley isn't in a wheelchair and drooling by now, considering how often the guy was hit in the head when he was active. Didn't he lose an ear in a botched hangman? And bashed in the face with a chair 11 times in a row back in 1999?
Wrestling is about as fake as extremely over the top method acting. Like blading was a thing for years until WWE banned it. The wrestlers would hide razor blades in their sweatbands and slash their foreheads whenever they got hit with something. I know there's a clip of Eddie Guerrero fucking it up and cutting an artery in his forehead so you could see the blood spurting out like a fountain. Heck, most of the older wrestlers still have scars from the practice.
Well, the storylines and match outcomes are all staged but honestly, it's pretty much just for safety's sake. The way these guys beat on each other for a faked match with a really big paycheck is already insane. Imagine what they would do to each other if the outcomes weren't planned out and there was actually some meaning behind the belts and titles.
MMA is already ridiculous and they don't have heavy metal things to throw at each other. Wrestling matches would look like crime scenes at the end of every show.
Have y'all seen Brother Devon's forehead? It looks like hamburger meat
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:15:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is a reason he is the hardcore legend.
Dizmn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's so addled now that a couple days ago his earnest, long, and generally very interesting facebook posts were replaced with a nonstop torrent of clickbait links.
It's definitely a concussion symptom and Mick didn't blatantly sell out to some utter shit clickbait site, right?
How is five posted links (only two of which are clickbait) since May 24th "a nonstop torrent of clickbait links"?
Dizmn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:12:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Interesting, looks like he's posting and deleting. He just posted another link to providr 5 minutes ago, here's a screenshot of the comments section: http://i.imgur.com/sXdTa7Q.jpg
You can see other people voicing complaints about the clickbait, despite it not showing up in his posting history. My newsfeed has been swamped with providr links from Mick, he's posting, at a rough estimate, a dozen or so a day.
EDIT: Since I posted this, the Mick Foley page has removed the post that I posted the comments section screenshot from, and replaced it with a different providr link (This one also filled with people begging mick to stop with the spam). So, this is Mick right now, I guess.
Fuck that one hurts. Chris Benoit and Eddie Guerrero were my absolute favorite wrestlers growing up (back when I watched WWF/WWE). Their lives ended up going so horribly wrong. At least I can still watch Eddie's old matches. I can't stomach watching any Benoit matches anymore.
I once saw a meme that had for wrestlers who'd died, and asked which you would bring back/prevent their death. I said Eddie. Because if Eddie hadn't died, The WWE wouldn't have been what it was... Eddie's death pushed Benoit over an edge.. Maybe Eddie would have caught it? Or Maybe Chris would have went to Eddie and gotten help? Eddie being alive would effect a lot of wrestlers... Ziggler and Edge because Vickie wouldn't have her Career.. Chavo possibly being treated with respect...
nizon ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:16:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not fake, it's a stunt show.
bv310 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:22:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Triple H's quad rolling up like an old-timer curtain is painful to watch
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:42:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Totally. Hell, just watch Undertaker throw Mankind off the top of the cell, or Edge spear Jeff Hardy off the ladder, or even from this past December when Kalisto gave one of the Usos Solida Del Sol(hope I spelled that right) off the top of a ladder. Fucking crazy shit that could end your career if you fuck up
I say this as a person who can watch NSFW all the time and it's like nothing. Having said that, it's the only time I actually felt sick. Why you ask, because he wasn't doing anything dangerous. Just landed and his leg decided it didn't want to play anymore and snapped in half.
For those who are looking for something more recent, think of Kevin Ware. Basically the same exact thing.
teefour ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:45:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You never know when you could be injured too. Sometimes mistakes just fall out of the sky.
A guy named Enzo Amore recently got the scariest looking injury I've ever seen watching live and it came from him messing up on being thrown under the ropes of all things.
He caught wrong, whiplashed back and gave himself such a massive concussion that he didn't move the entire rest of the time he was on camera and looked like he had broken his neck.
Another guy named Neville broke his leg doing a baseball slide, he usually does flips that I've never seen anyone else pull off as crisply multiple times a match.
It's bizarre how badly injured they can get from the smallest mistake. Shout out to Randy Orton for blowing out his shoulder doing his own taunt, and doing the same thing taking out the trash.
Yup, wrestling can definitely fuck a guy up. I distinctly recall seeing Prescription Thugs(?) on US Netflix and it delved into it quite a bit. Anyways, head injuries and painkiller addictions are common in that sport.
lic05 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just search "WCW Sid injury" on YouTube, you can't fake that.
people call it fake because, 30 years ago, the WWF pretended all of the storylines were actual fueds between the performers (i.e., the kayfabe was "real") etc. etc.
the general population hasn't caught up with the fact that when the WWE calls wrestling "real" they mean it's a real performance art, which it is
Take a 15 ft fall landing through a table on your back and then report back.
[deleted] ยท -20 points ยท Posted at 17:07:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It may be athletic and risky, but it's still fake. Jump off the top rope and land your knee on someones head and nobody goes to the hospital? Not very authentic to me.
I'm not sure if you missed the part where I wrote " They don't even have to fuck up for it to hurt. That shit hurts when you do it correctly". Go stand on a four and a half foot ledge then jump off knee first. You can't fake gravity.
Wrestling isn't a fucking documentary. It's a connection of stories that are woven together by incredibly talented stuntmen and women. If you don't like it, that's cool, but you are going out of your way to be an ignorant asshole about the subject. You are more than welcome to do that, but don't get confused and think that it means your opinion means shit.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:31:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, the stunts are well done, and the people are talented at what they're doing... but "a connection of stories that are woven together"? The writing and acting on display in wrestling make porn productions look well written. It's popcorn entertainment.
[deleted] ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 20:05:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Collection of stories woven together? Sounds fake to me.
I could care less what you watch or enjoy, don't confuse yourself with language trying to back up your opinion.
drxc ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:20:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
The Walking Dead is fake too but nobody feels the need to post on reddit about how the zombies are just people in makeup. Why is is that non-wrestling fans feel the need to constantly point out that it is fake. We fucking know.
What winds up the wrestling fans is that it's like you are saying "it is fake, therefore worthless" while watching hours of scriptwritten fake TV series and thinking it's the bomb.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:36:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's fake only inasmuch as it's not fighting qua intention to actually harm the other person/people. Nobody really thinks it is though. It's openly closer to some along the lines of extreme dancing: choreographed, but highly athletic and dangerous nonetheless.
I mean you can see the mats in that video . . . I'm sure it hurt like hell and any sort sport like that is dangerous but I don't know what point you're trying to make.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When people call wrestling "fake", they are referring to the very fact that the "competition" element of the entire thing is scripted, and that no actual sport is occurring.
You are being pedantic on purpose.
It's no different to scripted reality TV. The fact that they're talented stuntmen doesn't suddenly absolve all that criticism.
People in stage plays have strings attached to prevent injuries when they take falls. I'm not the one who doesn't know the definition of fake here. I bet you're one of the guys who thinks they use mostly blood packets too and don't know about the practice of cutting, aren't you?
Yeah, he was probably one of the kids arguing it was real in middle school. I get where he's coming from but he seems a little butthurt over the semantics of the word fake.
No, sweetheart, I wasn't. I just get irritated when people under sell what these people do. There's a reason a lot of them end up addicted to pain killers and die from it. Or wind up with CTE and go crazy like Chris Benoit did.
drxc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They get annoyed because when you call they thing they like fake they feel like you are calling it worthless.
I think what hes trying to say is although its staged you cant really fake the action he took. The term fake is just broad. Its fake as in its theatre and deceptive. But none of the actions they do are truly fake. Even though there were mats there, mick foley lost a tooth and it came out of his nose. So there was a fake/planned demonstration... but in no way is what he did not risky or foolproof
Yeah it's a semantic argument for sure but really an absurd one. No one is trying to say these guys aren't athletes or impressive performers but insisting over and over again that WWE is "real" just seems like a weird fanboyism. It's like someone watching a soap opera insisting it's real because the actors are crying real tears.
You are giving too much faith in peoples common sense, a lot of people give it no credit. Its immediately dismissed cause "its fake" when everything on Tv except some of the news is "fake"
bv310 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it more comes from the very negative connotations of "fake". Think "that's a fake watch" vs "that's a replica watch". People who watch wrestling get a lot of shit for it, so they tend to get pretty defensive about language used.
I'm trained in stage combat. We don't do what wrestlers do, except on a VERY small scale. We pull our punches, we pull our kicks, we orient ourselves in relation to the audience so a hit looks real when it's inches away.
That doesn't happen in wrestling. That shit is full-contact.
Could not agree more. I remember watching the rock repeatedly smash mankind in the head with a metal chair until his forehead opend up like bloody hamburger. Sure we knew that it was scripted but that was some real ass shit. Mick Foley earnd his paycheck that day. .it was almost hard to watch
Yeah, that was crazy. In his book, he talks about how his wife and kids were at that show and they had no idea that was going to happen. Apparently they were supposed to go to Disneyland after that and he didn't know how to tell them that they had to "watch daddy get the shit beat out of them before they could go."
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:18:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The camera panned to them at one point and his children and his wife were full on bawling while the mom tried to close the kids eyes
Yeah, they also show that during "Beyond the Mat".
mrtweek ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:36:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except the incident you're referring was not necessarily scripted. IIRC Rock was supposed to hit Foley 2-3 times in the head.. not 11.. with his hands cuffed behind his back... Mick was pissed at Rock for a long time after that.
I thought Foley said in his book that he told Rock to keep going when he hit him? I could be wrong though, it's been forever since I read it. I do remember it was originally supposed to be only a couple times, though.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:17:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And IIRC The Rock didn't apologize until a few years back
I still refuse to watch Beyond The Mat because of a part in it where Mick's family is front row watching The Rock smash a chair on their father's head a million times.
Yup. A bunch of us chipped in to get that pay per view. It was good at first ,and y3s im aware wrestlers would pre scratch their forehead for faster blood show, but it just went on to the point where it was just ridiculous...kind of like on family guy where stewie goes "mum. Mum. Mum. Mummy. Mama..mama..mum.mum.mummummy. funny at first but hard to watch
When I was young, my brother put on wrestling and someone's elbow dislocated... it's entirely possible they were "double jointed" or whatever, but I kid you not, they replayed it - from 20 different angles (so they must have known it was coming...) dozens of times. After the 3rd time of seeing it bulge out, I couldn't hack it so I ran to the next room. My brother kept watching, every time he'd cry out in disgust I'd yell from the other room. That was about it for my wrestling-watching career.
Those were probably the good old days where someone's perfectly normal body movement sufficed, the amount of beating, bashing, and mayhem now... ugh. I guess I'm not wired to watch people get bruised up, lol.
Joetato ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:03:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or Mick getting tossed off the Cell during Hell in a Cell. Though he doesn't really like talking about that anymore because he feels like it's the only thing the fans associate with him. Everyone wants to know about him being thrown off the cell. He's done much more in his career than be nearly killed by The Undertaker.
If I ever meet him, I'm going to act all excited to ask him about his most extreme moment.... then talk about that time he put a guy in a 10 minute headlock in the original ECW. (as part of an anti-hardcore angle)
See, I LOVE that... It's like what I swear I'll do if I ever meet Colt Cabana... Say I wanna ask him about someone... and then go "What is Matt Classic REALLY like?" or meet Punk and ask What Colt is REALLY like?
Tufflaw ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:32:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mick's family was in the audience for that one
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 19:21:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Those chairs are like cookie sheets. Try hitting yourself with a cookie sheet while recording it. See? It looks like it would hurt but it doesn't. Now take a ton of advil to thin your blood and make a small cut with a razor just at your hair line. Put a cloth on it for a few minutes just so its not ripping blood. Not press record and hit yourself repeatedly with the cookie sheet. Perfectly safe and fun for anyone of any age to try at home. If you send it to the WWF you might even get on TV. I did!
I remember doing live sound for a WWF event once. The guys doing lighting nearby where shouting and hollering for their favorite person. I stopped them and showed them the list of who would win and lose and they just stood there with their jaws wide open. Apparently these grown people had no idea it was rigged despite being involved in it.
I asked them how did they think I knew which music to play for the winner?
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:31:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 17:39:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
(I think he's lying. The story sounds perfectly made up).
What is the point? A soap opera for teen males and man children or a gay battle for hot gold? If it's the former admit it is what it is, and the latter, congratulations my homosexual friend, you enjoy hot, sweaty in shape guys rubbing their bodies together in spandex with dirty talk.
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:39:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, I think you might be projecting a little bit here.
[deleted] ยท -24 points ยท Posted at 18:43:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:45:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's only gay if you push back. So you like Super Smash Bros or not?
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:19:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looking at your username I have to wonder if you're doing that thing where people slowly move into a persona or gimmick or something like slowly starting to speak gibberish as the chain progresses or something, if that's the case I wonder how many more times you'll be able to respond before you forget how to post because nothing shouted at you what to click to post, or if it did, you didn't listen.
I think the problem is with describing it as a sport. It's obviously an impressive athletic performance, but most people think of sports as competitions with an unknown outcome. WWE is more akin to an improv "Cirque du Soleil."
This is what I try to explain to people. It's basically the lowbrow version of ballet. An athletic performance with a script where you're there to be entertained, not to see who is the best competitor (in the strictest sense).
The person I responded to called it a sport. It's not really "classified" as anything. I'm pretty sure Vince McMahon created the phrase "Sports entertainment."
Jaxon12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No one defends wrestling as "real" in the way you are thinking of "real".
Sounds like somebody didn't grow up in the 70s. Every kid in my junior HS swore it was real and I was a fool for disbelieving. Like I was a flat-Earther or something.
As a buddy once explained to me "You know what's also fake? Action movies. Bruce Willis can't do 75% of what you see on film IRL. When you see the Big Show flip a car it might not have an engine in it but he did just flip that thing. Wrestling is a live action drama with just the right amount of plot and dialogue."
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:24:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In all fairness there was a time it was considered "real"
Let me explain
You used to be able to bet on wrestling match outcomes, and there are tons of videos on youtube where someone gets legit smacked for asking a pro wrestler if it was fake. It wasn't until the 90's they had to actually come and say it was fake, and re label it as "sport entertainment". So yes, at one point and time, it was an actual debate if it was real or not, and best believe a lot thought it was legit real.
Their poor bodies do go through the ringer though, despite not actually getting tombstone piledrive'ed on their head. But shit, even if the match is fake, shit like mick foley getting tossed 3 stories off of the hell in a cell onto a table, was sure as shit real. That can't be good for ya, even if you and your buddy set it up.
The only people who think it's "real" are little kids who haven't realized it yet, but non-fans still feel the need to tell fans "You know this is fake, right?"
My moms sister married hector Guerrero who's the brother of Eddie Guerrero. Both wrestlers. One night I went over to hectors house and politely asked him if wrestling was real. He body slammed me hard and knocked the wind out of me. I was 15 years old. Also, when he saw me and my cousin swimming in the pool he called us a couple of beached Whales. He made my cousin write a long essay on how fat he was and put it on his door and made him read it each night. He made my cousin eat right and my cousin did lose weight but now that hectors gone my cousin weighs about 600 pounds. My cousin associates being thin with the bullshit of hector. Weird ass story, huh.
I think it's impressive, just not interesting. What they do doesn't change the outcome, even most of the fight is choreographed (correct me if I'm wrong). You can compare it to a TV-Show, but I wouldn't watch a TV-Show about a bunch of guys wrestling for no real reason.
Tufflaw ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:44:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Choreography depends on the wrestlers, some are better at improvising than others. Hulk Hogan notoriously had to plan every single move in his matches. Other wrestlers are able to work off each other.
I used to be huge into wrestling, and yeah some parts of the matches are choreographed, but all the best guys know to shake things up. They'll call audibles all the time and do things they didn't plan on because they know how to read the crowd and know what they want. I feel that's a talent by itself.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:36:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I tend to think worse about adults who watch cartoons than those who watch wrestling. At least something impressive is going on in wrestling, and it's done live for the most part. Even that's impressive. But if I meet someone who loves American Dad I'm completely mystified.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The cat has been out of the bag since the '80's why are you talking about Twitter? Ever since Hogan's scandal. There was literally no question for decades. I also don't get why BB is relevant here but okay.
The rest of the stuff is just par for the course with anyone doing stunt acting. We don't really call that a sport last I checked. Wrestling is nothing but entertainment.
Actually, the ring floor is the best place to land. I saw one set up once and it has a tremendous amount of give. But you are correct, it probably still hurts. Cement floors and steel posts? Oww! They try to pull it but sometimes they hit things harder than they meant to.
The Mankind vs Undertaker Hell in a Cell match at King of the Ring 1998 is probably the best counterexample to "wrestling is fake" ever. Mankind for throw off of the Cell through a table, then Chokeslammed through the roof of the Cell onto the ring, and they still continued the match.
I just started getting into watching Wrestling with a few of my friends, and yeah, they point out when you can see that the wrestlers had to adjust for their opponent missing their mark, or when someone is doing a poor job of selling it. They've also taught me the various roles of the talent, and when something goes horribly off script.
I was watching a PPV event with them when Enzo, part of a tag team, cracked his head on the side of the ring. They could immediately tell something was wrong and explained that since they weren't showing the medics on him that it was a real injury. Turns out the guy got a concussion from something not going right from him being thrown out of the ring.
It's super fun to watch and not at all spontaneous, but jeez watching the way those folks get hit makes me flinch sometimes.
bv310 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Daniel Bryan's story alone should be enough to remind people that it's still a very real physical event.
scots ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
An improperly performed pile driver can literally paralyze or kill someone.
Probably the reason the WWE has even stated during a press conference a few years ago that only two of their performers are authorized to script it into their "matches" - "The Undertaker" and "Kane" - both extremely experienced and among the WWE's tallest and strongest performers.
Properly performed, the "victims" shoulders are supported by the performers legs, their head never touches the mat and no stress is put on the neck.
Improperly performed, the head strikes the mat with body weight behind it, causing all manner of disc compression, bent neck and spine and.. Problems.
A badly performed pile driver partially paralyzed "Stone Cold Steve Austin" , ending his career - in "fake wrestling."
Annnnnd then there's the guy who fell out of a stage flying harness a fell to his death in front of thousands of people.
Airazz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So basically it's as real as a live theatre play. Not very real and the wrestlers stomp on the ground with one foot when hitting the other wrestler's face to make it sound like they're hitting very hard.
I remember in Nick Foleys book him talking about why they used the Mandible Claw for mankind's signature move and it was mainly because his body couldn't take the damage of performing some of his old finishers anymore.
In the 90s, certain idiots or children would defend it as real. Since then though, the WWE and other organizations just accept they are scripted and don't try to play it off. So nobody to my knowledge these days defends it as real.
Could not fucking agree more. When people say "you know it's not real right?" I always like to reply with "you know Eastenders isn't real right? You know a theatre production is rehearsed and people aren't dying/falling in love in front of you right?".
Entertainment is entertainment. None of it is "fake" or "real", it's rehearsed. The thing that is real, like what has been said, is the toll these wrestlers take on their bodies.
No one defends wrestling as "real" in the way you are thinking of "real".
I agree with everything else you said but I guarantee you that some people will defend it as real.
I know that the vast, vast majority of wrestling fans think the same way you do, but I think you're overestimating the public at large.
Y6Y1Y9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:41:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always tell my friends who make fun of wrestling and call it fake to not look at it as a sport and think of it more like a play/theater that's focused on showmanship and improv stunt work (Cause as most of us who know wrestling know, they don't choreograph matches ahead of time) similar to improv comedy shows. They are usually able to respect it a little more. Especially when i tell them, like for WWE, at least it's year round multiple shows a week, no off season.
We watched the movie "The Wrestler" for my philosophy class, and it features a washed-up pro wrestler. It's really interesting to see because it shows what I think is a fairly-accurate depiction of that sort of wrestling.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
The who problem that people have is that it isn't a sport.
To actually be defined as a sport, it has to involve actual competition between two or more people. The fact that it is entirely predetermined with no actual competing taking place eliminates it completely from being it a sport.
At least call it what it is. Entertainment.
Yes, certainly, its lots of work and they are hard working individuals. But when people criticise wrestling, its very much for the reason I just stated - they don't want to see a "pretend" competition. It's redundant.
Wrestling does exist as a sport - a physical activity in which two people compete to overpower each other in a match that isn't predetermined. Popular entertainment's parody of the real thing has made a mockery of it though, and that alone is enough reason for me to dislike the "wrestling" that makes up modern entertainment.
Anything can be "art". That doesn't make it particularly good art.
Chris Benoit is proof... Was proof of the toll of wrestling.
cimeryd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's pretty much how I'm feeling about it. I'm not really excited about who wins or loses, but I'm in awe at the physical display I'm seeing. These men are athletes.
mmmsoap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No one defends wrestling as "real" in the way you are thinking of "real".
Sure, no one does now, but there was definitely a time when a lot of fans would've been surprised to hear that it was fake. That's where we are now with contest shows. Fast forward 20 years, and no one will think they're remotely real.
I think, in part, shows like Jeopardy! has erased our collective skepticism of games and contests that were tarnished by the shenanigans on shows like Twenty One in the 50s.
Tralan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In the old days there were people in denial of wrestling being real.
No one defends wrestling as "real" in the way you are thinking of "real". Yes, the outcome is predetermined, but so was the outcome of Breaking Bad. They don't even attempt to tell people the stories are real anymore. The twitter bio of one of their highest ranking executives used to say "I play a bad guy on TV". The cat is out of the bag and they know it.
The cat is out of the bag because Vince McMahon decided it was better for business for it to be. And he was right.
Most of Reddit is too young to remember, but John Stossell did a story about wrestling on a show called 20/20 back in the 80s.
He asked a wrestler if wrestling was fake. The guy actually slapped Stossell. And I mean hard. I sure can't imagine anything like that happening today.
It's a soap opera with overly greased up muscle dudes in Speedos. They seem to practice their lines more than their choreography. The chicks on the other hand are much better in every aspect; from acting to choreography to emotion.
Seriously. As someone who is a fan of and partakes in stage combat, these guys are freaking amazing. I know this isn't any more real than Rambo is, but man is it still impressive to watch.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:23:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like it would literally be too much to ask that the outcome isn't prescripted.
Like, for real. People just aren't allowed to, or don't want to just fight anymore. How much money would it take to just have two guys say fuck it and throw eachother around the ring?
No one defends wrestling as "real" in the way you are thinking of "real".
You are so wrong. It took the better part of a DECADE to get WWF to admit its not real. John Stossel (20/20 reporter) was attacked by a wrestler for intimating that it was all fake. As hes smacking him he says 'Is this fake'?
socsa ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:17:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You better not be dissing Teen Mom, that shit is comedy gold!
kanooka ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:37:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the thing is, those people really are those trainwrecks in real life. one of the couples lived in the next town over from me from one of the seasons and for years afterward every once in awhile there would be an article about their domestic disputes. my point being, it's actually more sad than anything else.
It's one part Schadenfreude, and two parts fascination. I don't doubt for a second that I'm watching real life edited down. Some of their stories get better, but the crazy part is watching them pick a man who looks just like baby-daddy. Or watching one discover Xanax during a divorce, while the former junkie finally gets her shit together at the same time. It's a drama. And I usually don't feel bad for them, when the same mistakes are made all over again.
Why does everyone use that as their "I hate reality tv" example? Shows like Intervention and Top Gear are more documentary style but still reality tv and still good. Shows like Project Runway or Face Off are great, you get to see talented people compete to be the best. Don't get me wrong, there's a lot of Dance Moms and Real Housewives garbage out there but anyone who watches realizes it's scripted and stupid. People watch because they're entertained.
I was on the second season of a show that was basically a ripoff of The Bachelor. I was 23 at the time and had just finished college and hadn't found a permanent job yet as a legal analyst, so when auditions came around I figured it would be funny if I got picked and no big deal if I didn't.
We started out with probably 2,500 girls or so just in my audition and they narrowed it down to 24 of us. We came back the next day and filmed interviews and segments that would be used as flashbacks during the show. Me and one other girl from my casting call got picked.
Things you don't see:
The producers direct everything. Everything. Even some of the dialogue.
All the drama and most of the arguments are either scripted, added in during post production, or instigated by the producers. We only had like 3 girls out of the whole group not get along well, but the final airing made us all look like total bitches or ditzes even though almost all of us were educated and relatively mature adults.
The guy was a complete doof and a bit pudgy, but in the final airing he always seemed cool and calm and collected and even in scenes with his shirt off he looked more athletic.
During 6 weeks of filming we each spent maybe 6 hours with him one-on-one.
We were encouraged to drink, strip, act inappropriately, and talk about all kinds of juicy topics 24/7. Sometimes the producers would come in the room and just say, "Who here has dated a complete loser? What did he do?" Or "Who is the bitchiest girl you know?" and then use the footage of us discussing those stories to insinuate we were talking about the guy or about other girls in the house.
The house smelled really bad. Like stale booze, in a women's soccer locker room where the garbage disposal hadn't been run in too long.
The guy was also a complete ass. On my first one on one date with him he was sweet, if not a bit odd. We had a lot of fun and had way too much to drink and I ended up hooking up with him. After filming was over I found out he had given me herpes.
[deleted] ยท 1038 points ยท Posted at 20:29:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Condoms can protect against the spread of herpes, though if the outbreak occurs outside of the area which a condom covers, it isn't much help. Also, most people with herpes exhibit no symptoms, and many do not know they have it. Always talk openly with a potential partner to decrease your chances even more!
Yes, thank you. Well said! (If I'm not mistaken, which is possible, but I've studied this a lot,) It's very important not to assume one is safe either because of the using of a condom or not being able to see seeing an active lesion. This is because the virus sheds from one infected body to another via shedding or "falling off" skin cells. These are cells that come from around the entire area, not just on the Penis or in the vagina. It is in our skin cells and can be shedding and contagious before an active lesion ever appears. Some people never even break out, but still shed the virus!
So nothing can be trusted to be 100% protective. If you don't think this matters, ask yourself, "if I knew FOR SURE this person had an active herpes or HPV, or HIV virus, even if I can't SEE it, because it is shedding from their skin cells all around their groin, abdomen, and legs, would I still feel safe having sex because I put a condom on my penis (or he wore one having sex with you?). JUST a condom? If you knew for sure? That's your answer.
Woah, didn't expect all the comments! It was Ultimate Cake Off on TLC. I daresay Food Network shows are a tad more realistic. We didn't get the prize money but in the end it was almost better for our business because everyone who watched the show recognized we were robbed.
Based on the comment about the clock I'm guessing Cake Wars
neugo ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 18:02:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On the finale of one of Gordon Ramsay's shows this year, the cute girl over-cooked her steak - and, instead of tearing a strip off of her, Ramsay said it was cooked perfectly, and the editor made sure that the audience never got a clear look at the (grey) center of the steak.
How do you know this? Which show? I almost never see attractive women in these cooking shows and usually you can tell feom their recipe ideas that they have talent.
BamesF ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:16:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd also like to know. Sounds like bullshit to me.
The only show Ramsay would do that on would be Masterchef because those are amateur cooks. He never acts like that on Hells kitchen because those people will eventually work for him.
And yes that is real because its an actual restuarant you can actually eat the food in. Just don't expect any when they are taped the first few episodes.
[deleted] ยท -16 points ยท Posted at 18:38:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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PBody97 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:07:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well the editor can decide what footage stays and what footage goes.
I did cake competitions too, they rolled back our time as well and said, "we never do this..." but did it both times I was on.
thunnus ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 16:13:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eyup. How does everyone not know this? This is why I hate reality television. It's all made up. If I'm going to spend time watching make-em-ups, I'm picking one with a much more interesting story than who baked the best fucking cake.
I am sorry you lost the fake cake-off, though. Bummer, man. That's...a bummer.
Not all reality TV. There are real shows out there
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 17:40:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Why do you have to be a condescending prick? Let people enjoy what they want, it doesn't even affect you.
EDIT: I'm really tired of people who literally lack a 6th grade reading comprehension ability. "How does everyone not know this?" "Bummer, man. That's... a bummer." How are people unable to detect tone?
Did they compensate you even though you didn't win?
CDfm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I want a slice .
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was a Food Network show wasn't it?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This makes me wonder if Gordon Ramsay's shows are also fake. I have watched nearly every Kitchen Nightmares shows and they look real enough but who knows.
I always wondered how the bakers knew exactly what the "random subject" they were supposed to work on looked like from their heads and were able to make accurately scaled cakes w/o reference. Makes sense now.
I'm reminded of a story a friend told me when he watched the taping of one of the Ru Paul's drag race finales. They filmed every contestant winning and their/the audiences' reactions so they could edit in whatever result they wanted later.
I'm amazed more people don't realise this just from watching. Look at the coverage and camera angles, it's clear that multiple takes are being done for each thing
dj_soo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on an art competition show and while the reactions and interviews with the background actors, contestant introductions, winner reveals, and challenge reveals were all filmed with multiple takes, the actual competition parts and the voting was real so I think it depends on the show.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If this is cake wars, I'm just annoyed. They have extra time and some of those cakes end up looking fucking horrendous. Months to plan and you somehow support a business with that pile of shit? Ugh.
rydan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:22:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Given that you won the judges vote now and are the top comment you are busted.
I was laughing at Master Chef US the other day, the competition had them making cupcakes I believe, and magically as soon as they came out of the oven they were able to be iced.
When in reality, they'd need to be cooled before the icing was applied to keep them from melting. No off-hand mention of a blast freezer or anything, just out of the oven and then the icing.
We also phrase find through your scripts to find different ways of you saying a word so that the sound mixer can make it flow more smoothly if you never said it. ;) reality tv magic.
While some parts of this is true, it isn't the case for all reality shows. Double takes do exist but they are not always for every statement made.
The clock rolling back does happen however it is not common and only done in circumstances where producers had underestimated how long something would take, in the case of a cake competition show sometimes contestants will be given a type of cake to make but an unrealistic time to create it in.
I can't speak for the show you were in but something like the producer deciding the winner against the judges decisions should not and has not in my experience happened. What can happen however is that much like the 2 takes of everything comment there are really two filmed endings. This is done so that the cast and crew do not know the winner until airing of the show.
I was on restaurant impossible a couple years ago. They say they have a $10,000 budget for the renovation, definitely does not mean they use it. The host, Robert Irvine, was only there for like an hour a day, of the 3ish day venture, just to get in the way and whine about things for the camera. They made up this whole story about how my boss would lose everything and cause so much stress on his marriage and family if the restaurant failed. They had us "walk this direction with a sullen look" to show that we felt underappreciated as employees. We had four employees actually walk out because of some the comments Robert made. We also did not get paid any extra for any of this. But, while all of that was annoying, I will say this. The food network did pay almost $4k for a very local construction crew to come in, which is awesome for local business/support, the food was very awesome, and I got to learn some insane techniques from world class chef's, at the very start of my career (I am a chef myself now). It was very neat and exciting thing for a small town, and definitely brought our community together. And while the business did still end up failing a year and a half later, my boss was totally fine because he bought out another restaurant and is now very successful elsewhere.
Interesting. I was on Restaurant Impossible a few months ago. They filmed at a restaurant in my apartment building, so I was got to watch the entire production happen. I was filmed and interviewed several times too, and appeared in three segments on the episode. Robert was there the whole time. The celebrity carpenter guy was in our parking lot working until 2am, and back at 9am. They say they do the renovation in 24 hours, and they really did. After watching the episode, I really felt like everything they portrayed on TV was exactly how it went down in real life.
TheOven ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 02:57:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Relative was a producer on this show for 6 seasons. Can confirm. Also....I was on set one day when one of the "designers" screwed up big time. Instead of blaming it on them, they posed me as one of the volunteers and pinned it on me. Also... Robert Irvine is the worst person on the face of the planet. He verbally abuses the production staff and nobody (including Marc Summers) does anything about it.
Damn, Robert seems like a real douchebag. I mean, if it's just all for show, being an ass in front of the camera, fine whatever, but I guess he's an ass off camera too.
He is even worse off camera. He is verbally and mentally abusive to the production staff. Sometimes this extends to the restaurant staff. It is out of control. Marc Summers (executive producer) turns a blind eye to it. It is crazy scary to witness. This man does not deserve any accolades.
Don't even get me started on him being a "chef". On set, there is a real chef doing all the work with the restaurant staff and Robert just steps in for a scene or two. He is just a piece of shit figurehead.
A guy I know from high school works with Robert Irvine and is always posting pics with him and hanging out at parties and weddings with him. Guy is a total twat so I'm not surprised to hear Irvine doesn't do much.
I saw another one of these threads and someone said that the show wipeout will only accept nuts jobs and "quirky" people. That's probably why you never see anyone who belongs on ANW on that show.
I knew a family man rancher whose one dream was to get on Wipeout. He has his whole schtick - "The Cowboy" - scripted and every season he would apply to be on. He thought it was a show where he could seem quirky but really be an amazing athlete and win. I don't think he ever got on, which is too bad because he was exactly the kind of person they're looking for: odd in an embarrassing way, not very athletic but thinks he is, and bonus! would have been a legitimate ass if he wiped out. YOU COULD HAVE HAD IT ALL, WIPEOUT!
Which is why MXC is far better. Clearly all those English speaking Asian ventriloquists are 100% real. Bless the Babaganoosh family for trying so hard to win every single episode.
I was on Wipeout! I auditioned with a lightningbolt drawn on my forehead and a magic staff and called myself "non-copyright infringing boy wizard Parry Hotter." When I showed up for filming, I dropped the act and they were clearly really annoyed. In my "interviews" with the hostess, they asked me like 3 harry potter questions and a Star Wars Question. I answered them all right but realized after the fact they wanted me to get the real easy Star Wars question wrong. I got like zero screen time, but I only made it to round two, so they didn't need to show me at all anyway. The competitive aspect of the show is very real, but filmed over 3 days instead of one.
What episode were you in? Because obviously you still get shown in Round 2 but not really mentioned. That sucks :(. But its what happens when theres limited air time.
Spring Episode 4: The Wizard of Owws. I pushed myself so hard on round 1 (we were told we would do round two later that week) that I was having like medical issues. I was the fastest male on round 1. Almost went to the hospital. Lucky for me we had time to do round two that day. My arms failed when I had to climb a ladder.
Well that sucks for the 3 of you guys including you who werent shown that episode that got to R2 :(. Really feel bad for those people who might work harder then some of the others early on but then get out in R2 and then get cut or just montage due to a limited broadcast of an hour with commercials where not everyone can be fully mentioned and they need to show the ones who got far and then the some of other ones who failed.
That could have been me. I had a friend on it and this guy is a dry and very monotone guy. Yet on the show, he was the most intense and over the top guy ever. It was really sickening to watch and was so glad when he got eliminated so I could stop watching
That's strange, because I remember my middle school art teacher being a normal dude and he appeared on the show. To be fair, even though he made it to the final course or whatever, they didn't spend much time focusing on him. He broke a rib.
I had a college friend who was really energetic and outspoken in class be on that show, and he got second place. Even though he was yelling in excitement a lot on the show (seemingly almost to an exaggerated extent), he is the kind of guy who'd actually do that naturally too.
Zanki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. A friend of mine walked out on the auditions because they wanted him to act like a fool.
There was a guy who worked for ANW that did an AMA. He was asked why they show backstories and spend like 10 minutes talking about people in ridiculous costumes that ultimately just fall on the first obstacle. His response was basically "that makes the show more interesting" and there was a long chain of responses after that which said "Um, I watch to see the people run the course" or "OMG I HATE THE BACKSTORY STUFF".
Unsurprisingly he did not respond to those comments, but I think its pretty representative of the entertainment industry as a whole where they produce what they think you want, rather than what you say you want.
One of my coworkers was on there. He's a totally normal guy IRL. I think he actually went to the audition with another coworker who was dressed up, but he came up with the funnier reason to be there.
Jessie Graff who is known as one of the strong female competitors on ANW was originally in a episode of season 1 of Wipeout. She made it decently far but didnt win I think. Pretty sure it was Season 1 Episode 10.
One of my current teachers was on wipeout (the Australia version). Because he had red hair as well as being left handed, they forced him to be called "rare breed". Although running the actual course was completely real, the interviews, the banter whilst on the sweeper and their celebrations were fake. They even made him dance multiple times before running the first course.
That show is still very very real though, I met someone once who was on it (I verified it later and watched her episode), and she talked about how painful it actually is. She joked that it should be illegal the stuff they put you through.
I know someone who's done medical work on the contestants. When you see some of those wipeouts and go, "Holy crap that looks like it hurt," chances are good that it did.
G8kpr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:09:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I tried out for Wipeout, and I think that's probably true.. When i got to the "auditions", I knew I was dead. People were dressed up in weird costumes, doing stupid things, everyone had "an angle" and I had none. I totally bombed the interview process, and that was that...
Very good friend of mine from uni, Kunaal. Despite his failure on the show, a talented martial artist. Insists it was real and he really was that bad at it. We were quite cruel to him at University as he's a semi-practicing Sikh like his parents, we'd take him to Burger King and eat quarter pounders in front of him and discuss how good they were.
Yay for religious intolerance...
Edit: Let me point out that despite all the comments in the video about martial arts and the yelling, he's about as aggressive as a kitten. Apart from that one time 2 smicks let off fireworks as us and started shouting "Paki bastards" at us. Even though I'm glow in the dark white. He put one on the ground, grabbed the other, pulled out a lighter and lit it while looking the guy in the eye and said "DO YOU WANT TO PLAY WITH FIRE?". Fucking brilliant, that.
I can understand some of the edits. I would hate to think a show about solving murders is scripted, unless it's a retelling of the story. First 48 is a great show, too.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:02:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Glad to hear this, it's one of my very favorite shows!
Knew some one who's brother was in the car of a murder and was in possession of a firearm and served 5 years in a prison, the person and his/her family were pretty much ruined as he was made to be some sort of murderous monster , complete with his mugshot and all to be viewed on TV , they don't ask for permission or think of the reprecussions of there actions towards those affiliated in a murder , even if said person was not directly involved or willingly participated or even knew that said murder was going to happen. Tldr everyone except the detectives are "bad guys"
Jonathan is a giant douchebag. He was recently at a bar that I frequent and at closing time he tried to pull this "fuck you, I'm not done, do you know who I am" bullshit and was promptly escorted out in a choke hold by one of the bouncers (a friend of mine actually). Once outside he immediately called 911 and wanted to file assault charges. After getting witness statements and reviewing the security footage the prosecutor refused to file the charges. The security footage has since been put on the Internet and it's pretty funny watching him get his ass dragged out.
I knew Jonathan didn't really do contracting work. He makes it look like he does a ton of manual labor yet he has no muscles. After doing that for awhile he'd at least look a little muscular.
You're telling me they haven't been working for hours when the camera pans to them in their brand new timberlands with 0 scuffs and clean jeans? Not to mention their hair is still done and they aren't sweating a single drop
Well now I'm sad. I love that show. Although I always did question what purpose Drew served. And it's weird you say Jonathan had nothing to do with the design, because the houses that end up on TV all have a very similar style.
VROF ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:48:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What is the point of the show if they don't pay for the work and you already own the house?
T_Right ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:42:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
bros are lazy douchebags
Wait really? I get that they were all about making themselves look good with their hair and all, but did they say/do anything else that came off as douchebag-esque?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:05:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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T_Right ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In about 2005 NBC had to abandon its policy of requiring clean STD tests for bachelor-type hookup show contestants because everybody who auditioned was infected with something.
Source: I've won an Emmy producing reality TV and my ex wife was in BA at NBC at that time.
That's disgusting but I'm not really surprised that the douchey guys that sign up to be contestants on these shows would be packing "gifts" that keep on giving.
I was on an episode of "extreme guide to parenting". My mom is a hypnotherapist for a living and so they "interviewed" my brothers and me about getting "hypnotized" to do chores and get good grades. They had us say thing like "my mom using nuro linguistic programming to make us do things" and that she hypnotizes us on a daily basis. I was 14 and I had to pretend that I had a crush on this boy and my mom taught me how to "hypnotize him to like me". All the parts with me in it were cut out, thank god, but my twin brothers got a decent amount of airtime. All of it was scripted. It was basically a publicity stunt on my moms part to get more business. I don't blame her, it worked pretty effectively and we got a 5,000 dollar check for letting them use our house to film.
to clarify, everything my mom said was true to a degree, and she has hypnotized me in the past, but hypnotherapy is not what everyone thinks it is. It is a way of gaining more self control, not less, and in no way is it someone controlling your mind. There are subtle cues you can give people to get them to agree with you, such as nodding your head when you ask for something (and touching their shoulder) but other than that it is mostly used to help people stop smoking or biting their nails and even improving concentration and avoiding panic attacks. Just like anyother therapist might help you, my mom does it with hypnosis. As for exploiting my brothers and me, it was really fun and I laughed a lot when I saw the final cut. I thought my family didn't seem so bad when compared to others that I saw in the same episode, but I can't judge. Either way, the whole plot was made up but it is true that my mom taught us how to exit something called flight or fight mode when in non-life threatening situations, like when you panic, she taught us to think clearly. Nothing as extreme as how they portrayed us in the show. Honestly, it's counter intuitive to make a show that puts my mom in bad light for business reasons and so while everything was scripted, she did maintain her usual air of professionalism, the directors just took all the parts that made her look as bad as possible.
I saw this episode re-run on Swedish television! Great episode. I'm glad to hear it was scripted though.
dug99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look into my eyes, look into my eyes, the eyes, the eyes, not around the eyes, don't look around my eyes, look into my eyes, you're under. I have not been taking your underwear home, putting it on in my bedroom and then parading up and down in front of the mirror going 'Oh, oh, oh, oh'. Three, two, one... You're back in the room.
spiral6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cool insight. I was wondering if you might be able to help me with something. I have a little experience with therapy administered by a proficient friend of mine, but now that we don't live near each other it's no longer an option. I am completely unsure how to go about finding a reputable hypnotherapist, And I was wondering if you had any insight into how to do that? it doesn't sound like you went into your mothers business, but you sounded really educated on the matter so I thought I'd ask.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So did you ever hypnotize that boy you liked ( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think I actually remember that, was there a part where the boys said they didn't want to be hypnotized anymore and then the mom literally right after tries to hypnotize one into doing well on the SAT's?
Diners, Drive-Ins, and Dives. Kinda real, maybe 50/50.
Friend owns a butcher shop and happens to be the supplier of meats to this restaurant where an episode of DDD was going to be filmed, and asked me to come along with him. We were a part of the "crowd scene" where Guy comes around as ask people things like "so how's the burger?" etc. Thing is, not one of the people in the restaurant during that scene was a random restaurant customer; everyone was an special invited guest of the restaurant owners. Once we arrived, the producer dude placed us in seats, and they made a few people move tables/booths (for a better overall crowd look, I presume). They gave us some preliminary instructions (make sure phones are off, don't ask for Guy's autographs at all, don't pay attention to camera, etc). And then we waited. And waited, and waited. After maybe 45 mins or so, the wait staff just started bringing out food and placing it on tables. No one had ordered anything, but the staff just started bringing stuff out. Once a decent Number of people had dishes at their table, The servers would continue bringing food outโฆ But this time with camera peeps behind them filming them as they took plates to tables. They did some interview shots with people eating, and when I watched the episode it was edited to look as if they were responding to something the Guy had sais to them, even though he wasn't around at all at this point. Shortly after that, Guy Fieri comes in, and everyone applauds, and he just sort of waves his hand at everyone quicklyโฆ Never smiles, and goes back to typing on his phone. I had always thought GF looks kinda douchey but was prolly nice in person..nope..absolute total diva/douchebag the entire time. Never acknowledged the crowd, barely acknowledged the production crew, just kinda seemed like a dick. Literally was standing right beside a booth where someone was sitting, and rhe lady sitting there said something to him like "hey we love your show"...GF just kinda does this half smirk/smile thing and never acknowledges the lady or anyone at her booth. Only, and I mean, ONLY when the video guy would say "action" would he turn on the switch and actually try to talk to crowd peeps, get excited and talk about the food and stuff. Later, after he filmed the restaurant scenes, they backed his Camaro out of a trailer and filmed all of then scenes where he's driving around. The crowd scenes were done at this point, my buddy and I were just hanging out, and chatting with the owner and one of his managers. The restaurant kitchen scenes where they were going to film Guy and the chef prepping and making the food were filmed the day before, and the owner said it was the exact same thing; zero interaction with GF until the cameras were rolling. They even filmed some "outtakes" which were somewhat pre planned and setup in advance. Once the car scenes were all done, GF heads back into the RV and we didn't see him again. The crew came around and did some other shots and interviewed some of the staff and such. Interesting day, for sure.
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:43:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God, I want to see him have a cook-off with Gordan Ramsey.
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 08:01:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you watch the shows, most of the people seem a little uncomfortable with him, especially in kitchen scenes. Your description sheds some light on that.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:18:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can corroborate your assessment of Guy Fieri. I'm good friends with an owner of one of the places he highlighted. I asked him what Fieri was like in person because he comes off as a douche on tv. The owner said something along the lines, "That guy made me so much money I won't say anything but nice things about him." And one of the owners employees was right there and just said, "Total dick."
I think it's also worth mentioning that the owner did refuse to allow a signed and framed poster to be put in his Restaurant.
Yep. Restaurant owner said one of the producers of the show said that their business would quadruple once the episode started airing and they had the math and research to back that claim up... And it absolutely turned out to be true. So his douchery is probably tolerated by the businesses based off of the money they know they will eventually begin to make. I do, however, think it's a great show and from the presentation standpoint it has introduced myself and zillions of other people to some incredible places that we would have otherwise never found.
My ex worked with guy fieti making a sign for one of his restaurants after it was finished he said he didn't like it. He then kept the sign, but never paid him or his co-workers. I used to love DDD until I knew Guy was a shitbag.
Mksiege ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:24:25 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's why you don't deliver the product without pay.
I've heard he's kind of a douchebag. It's kind of sad because he seems like a pretty genuine dude on TV. Like it seems forced a little bit but I wouldn't expect him to go from cold fish to, well. Guy Fierri only for the cameras.
[deleted] ยท 221 points ยท Posted at 15:32:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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d0mr448 ยท 96 points ยท Posted at 17:13:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone knew it was fake. The shocking part was the complete lack of responsibility, as seen in the interview: "Do you drink alcohol every day?" - "Eight beers." - "Okay, let's tick no in these legal documents for our insurance."
Some years back, I remembered seeing a clip on how fake Supernanny is. They basically encouraged the kids to fight and hit each other and it was implied (I wasn't there and can't qualify it) that the editors killed a dog to get a reaction out of one of the kids who seemed to have a special bond with the dog.
It's just crazy how they get away with stuff like that. Aren't there enough victims to sue the fuck out of RTL?
I've seen some contracts from their shows on the internet and even without beeing a lawyer I see, that it is all but legal what they do. Also they are pressuring the people who have signed the contracts.
I really wish I could find the clip from Supernanny where the mother said she heard the editors saying that it would be interesting if the dog were to die, and a couple of days later, the dog supposedly ate something poisonous and died. That really pissed me off!
You can see from this Frauentausch clip that the candidates who come out of these episodes are under so much stress, that I think in the end most of them want to put the incident behind them.
I also heard one of the participants say that they sign contracts where they would be sued for thousands of euros if they did not comply. Maybe many of them do not have the resources to go after RTL
Personally, I'm not a fan of "Fernsehkritik". I watched a few episodes, but, frankly, much of his reedy "critique" appears to me like a false pretense to show as many shitty sex scenes as possible.
That being said: If that team really killed the pup, this is, of course, more than despicable.
But let's talk about Frauentausch:
My cat sitter had worked as an intern for them. She was a runner in the episode with Jasmin Berlin. She stayed with Jasmin's mother and the other woman, Uschi, whom she claimed was really nice, while Jasmin and her mom were just as disgusting as shown on TV. So there's at least some truth...?
But it's pretty obvious that much of the dialogue is staged.
It's just like #veragate: The producers of such shows dig up the weirdest people they can think of, oftentimes people who are naive, uneducated or mentally ill, and who might rather need professional help. Some of these people have become 'professional' trash TV characters. Said Jasmin, for example. And somehow, they still manage to make an even bigger fool of these people. They'll create caricatures, exaggerating all the negative and freakish aspects: If they see limescale on the washing basin, they'll probably add some toothpaste smears for 'perfection'. If they see a full garbage bin, they'll add some nice and ripe banana peels, too... then some editing, and you're done.
It's true that many of the candidates of those shows are uneducated or really as seen on tv. But I think a lot of them are just unaware. Like the ones of 'Frauentausch' they just think, that they are different from those Freaks on tv and then it is too late.
I think what Bรถhmermann did with 'Schwiegertochter gesucht' was awesome. It shows what the producers are willing to do to get their perfect freakshow.
After reading this thread I watched some documentarys and there was a women who scouts crowded places in big cities to find the most sterotypical people.
I wholeheartedly agree with you. The "I'm different from those other freaks" is what I meant with being naive. They really seem to think that way.
Verafake was awesome! I don't like every Bรถhmermann coup, but that one was absolutely brilliant. I wish he'd repeat that with other "reality" shows, as well, from "Bauer sucht Frau" to "Voice of Germany" and "Germany's next Topfmodel". (Not gonna happen, of course.)
That being said, I'm not too sure whether the "รถffentlich-rechtlichen Anstalten" are much better than the stereotypical trash stations. Last year I took part in a tiny documentary for the ZDF, together with my best friend who lives a rather interesting lifestyle. (He's, well, very much into living a 19th century lifeโฆ) Even this tiny 5 minute intermezzo for a "quality" TV station took the whole day to record, with repetitions over and over again.
Everything we did, except for my friend's home, was organized and staged by the producer. And the final result made us look like lovers, not just good friends, much to the dismay of my husbandโฆ
That is the one. It appears as if they were sued and were not allowed to show the parts that could incriminate RTL. I don't know much about Fernsehkritik. I only came across the clip on youtube some years back.
Isn't this similar to Celebrity Big Brother in the UK a few years ago when they put a fake celeb in the house and she actually won? The viewers were in on it but the celeb housemates were only slightly suspicious.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chantelle_Houghton
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:18:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
when you understand German
It's not optional.
Qwqqwqq ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:11:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the video when you understand german and are interested!
Oh that should have been obvious. Thank you! That is so terrible... some people aren't fit to be parents.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:20:25 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i'm wondering when some tv producer or film maker is going to cash in on "the real lives of making reality tv" and it just be filled with stories like this from people with re-enactments like holy shit you can't make up these stories ( i mean you can but still some of the realities are amazing)
What is surprising is how they do it: see those fancy instruments they carry that no one has ever heard of? They're actually remotes, TO EACH OTHER!
All you gotta do is split into 2 groups and when one team is "adjusting their settings" the other team is "detecting ghosts." So simple and you get twice the footage.
Edit: Also, one time in a screening when the hunters were reviewing evidence, a producer whispered to me "see that Ghost shape behind the door? Ya, that's the sound guy."
I would watch that show. A small group of three people who know absolutely fuck all about anything moose related are taken from their quiet suburban homes, stripped of all modern tech, given some camping supplies and tasked with one simple goal: Find a moose.
"After six long months... several major and minor injuries... That period of food poisoning from that diner in Maine, and that time we almost lost Jerry to a bear, we are proud to finally present you with... a moose!"
Off screen voice - "Guys, that's actually an elk."
-dramatic music- "NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"
EDIT: Eventually one of the people goes crazy and becomes convinced there's no such thing as a moose. Even if they find tracks or scat, he's still convinced it's a hoax.
zzyzx00 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:19:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
George - "After six long months... several major and minor injuries... That period of food poisoning from that diner in Maine, and that time we almost lost Jerry to a bear, we are proud to finally present you with... a moose!"
grc207 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:03:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well you can't film of in Maine. There are too many. It would be like ghost hunters accidentally catching a ghost video in their car on the way to the hunt.
If you put them in a moose populated area that would last like one episode. They would be walking around and then be like "oh hey look a moose" and the show would be over.
I would enjoy that, all these big West Wing type things are too much for me and just the thought of watching another program about someone doing really significant things is enough to tire me out, i'd enjoy a nice two hour documentary of some people having a nice summer camping trip, taking a walk around Canada and towards easily completing their not too taxing task of spotting a moose.
I think it'd be nice if it had Jason Statham and some of those other action chaps in it, give them a break from all that drama and shouting they normally have to do. I think it'd be nice for them because they could sit down with their kids and watch it together and all be happy and joyous when they finally see the moose.
It could have a fun twist at the end like when they finally do see a moose it just happens to be an old friend of Jason's from before he went into acting and they both talk about life and how things have worked out and even though Jason is an big actor now and really cool parties and things his friend has had a cool life with as a moose, really enjoys working outside and is working on a book in which the main character is dealing with the complex issues of loss which he really thinks will maybe help people so like there's no weirdness or animosity or anything, they're just old buddies catching up on the world, maybe Jason says 'hey you should come to the premier' and the moose is like 'hey yeah i'd love to...' which kinda leave the opening for a squeal in which the moose is coming to Hollywood to track down a Jason Statham.
EXTREME Moose Hunting: Same concept, but with more swearing.
night time, handheld night-vision camera, pointed directly at face "Okay, we're out here tonight because we heard that Moose were nocturnal. We're just setting up all of our equipment now, it's hard to do in the dark. Brayden was just saying that-- HOLY SHIT WHAT WAS THAT? Was that a moose? Holy shit was that a moose?"camera jiggles around frantically
Female voice #1- "I saw it! I saw a moose! It was for sure a moose this time, get the camera!"
camera jiggles around frantically
Male voice #2- FUCK!
Female voice #1 (talking head, after the fact)- I can't believe we didn't get that on camera. I'm like 75% sure that was a moose.
NEXT WEEK on EXTREME Moose Hunters:
Unidentified female crying
Male voice- Shit, this is bad.
EXTREME MOOSE HUNTERS! Outro: AC/DC: Back in Black
Back in early 2000s we had a show like that in korea where a guy camped out with camping gear for weeks trying to catch a racoon (first season) and a deer (second season) in the CITY, both of which were rare back then because there were no efforts to preserve wild animals back then. I never watched the racoon one, but I did see the deer one, where he would camp out alone, sometimes with guests and experts to catch a glimpse of the deer, and one day, he finally saw the deer, and eventually they were able to lure and catch it (alive) and that show raised lots of awareness of rare wild animals that are endangered in korea. Iirc they did more animals, but i only watched the deer one.
That would be so badass! Especially if they were to completely replicate the style and formula that those 'finding bigfoot' shows do, where you can hear a moose call, and they get freaked out. Or they happen upon tracks and start speculating about whether it's just a deer or something else. That would be cool as hell.
You have, at least 9 times before. It's posted in every thread that mentions anything about 'ghost hunting'. Earliest one I could find is an AskReddit post title from 2012. The poster in this thread seems to have managed to farm the most comment karma from it.
I would watch the fuck out of a TV show about crew making a ghost hunt reality show.
Every episode:
* they go to peoples houses, who say they have ghosts.
* every time, they hope for ghosts.
* everyone on the team but 1 guy believes in ghosts.
* there is never any ghosts.
* instead they figure out why it seems like ghosts.
* sometimes is just misunderstandings.
* other times they solve crimes.
* are basically the scooby gang.
Pretty similar to actual moose spotting! You gotta get extremely lucky to find those suckers. I spend countless weeks in the Adirondack park and have never seen one, although there are frequent sightings by others. I have a close friend that has gone specifically moose spotting 4 times, camping for days in the wilderness with her husband, waiting for moose and has also never seen one. Moose spotting is a lot like ghost hunting!
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:40:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't believe in the paranormal but when Ghost Hunters and Ghost Adventures came out I watched them all the time. I loved to amuse myself by listening to everyone say, "Did you hear that?" or, "What the hell was that?" All the time. Those shows are absolutely ridiculous but people still love them.
The guy Steve who was/is on Ghost Hunters said in an interview that during all the years he's been with GH, he's never seen a ghost. Ya think?
I thought Ghost Adventures was really funny when it first came out. Over the top bros freaking out in the dark makes for good mindless TV IMO. I wrote to Zak a million years ago on MySpace (lol) and he asked me what places in my state would be good to visit for activity. A few years later they went to the two places I suggested and didn't get shit all night lol.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:44:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That show should be called, All About Zak. He is so full of himself it isn't even funny. He has another show now called After Shocks. He sits and talks to people who were affected by 'ghosts' from episodes. I watched another show he had but don't remember what it's called. It's about him in his weird house talking about the 'haunted' objects he collects. He has a van in his house that is allegedly haunted and among other items he has a life preserver ring that was on the boat that Natalie Wood fell off of. I have Sling TV so there is/was only one episode of this show. He's a strange person.
As you know, in the beginning of the Ghost Adventure shows you hear Zak say that he never believed in ghosts until he came face to face with one. I looked it up and what he claims happened was that he saw the ghost of a woman who had died but not in the building where Zak saw her. She died across the street in another building. Why in the hell would she leave there and go to another building? If this is why he believes in ghosts he is a jackass.
depends on the show though... I feel like Ghost Adventures is pretty respectable, but other shows like Ghost Asylum is a complete joke.
bak1984 ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 18:42:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know about authenticity, but Ghost Adventures is at least entertaining. Zak is just this strange mixture of goth, nerd, and meat-head that just works. Ghost Hunters was entertaining for the first couple seasons, where they barely found anything, then I guess the producers told them to amp it up and suddenly they were finding demons and elementals around every corner. Plus a lot of their "evidence" was obviously faked, which I know most of, if not all of it, is fake, but at least put some effort into it.
I personally find Zak to be a little full of himself. There was an episode where they went to Dolly Parton's house and they were interviewing her. Nick made the mistake of asking Dolly a question after Zak had asked one and the look Zak gave Nick...I'm surprised Nick didn't shrink into a tiny ball.
Plus, he liked to have girls that he met while filming come in and "stir up the ghosts." I always felt like it was a front to get laid. "Let me get you on TV, now, spread them legs, slut!"
Shed412 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:43:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also my favorite. One episode a 17 year old girl screamed from a bus, "ZAK, I THINK YOU'RE HOT!" Which seemed like the most legit thing to have happened. If that was fake I'll be sad
Yeah the early Ghosthunters episodes were mainly them saying "Yeah that's just dust, that's a bug, that's the pipes making noise." Then it turned into "DID YOU HEAR THAT! OMG LOOK BEHIND THE CAMERA! THAT TINY BLIP WAS A VOICE!!!"
Is Ghost Adventures the one where dudebros are just yelling at ghosts? I heard this described on a podcast and it sounded like the shittiest, yet funny, ghost show yet.
Honestly I am ready to accept some of not all of GA is fake. I love those three goons and they make good television. I got to meet them in high school and they were all super cool guys.
Calkky ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:44:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to love Ghost Adventures. After they didn't experience anything tangible for 4 seasons, it lost its steam for me.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:30:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean... what exactly did you expect?
Calkky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haven't there been multiple instances such as when Zak got scratched on the back or when they were filming with night vision in a completely dark room and they heard a noice and the night vision of the camera reveal the noise to be a picture frame turning by itself, and other instances like that? Whether you believe those things were faked or not, they're still tangible.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:47:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're just as fake as every other ghost show. Just like ghosts.
I want you to really look at your comment and then look at the stance the rest of Reddit took on this topic and then go sit in the corner and think about what you've done.
Hey, now, I don't know about every ghost hunting show, but there were plenty of episodes of Ghost Hunters where they admit they didn't find anything. Like the most compelling evidence they would say was most likely just dust spots and headlights. They also would say a lot that a high emf reading, while being ooh ghosts, is also and more likely an indication of old wiring and piping, which can cause nausea and hallucinations, which could easily account for "ghost" sightings.
But I love shows like that - it's like the fun parts of a scary movie without the super scariness. Just the "Ah! What was that?!" fun parts.
I'm a mark for ghost stories, and I always figured GH must be real because, well, if they're faking it they aren't trying very hard. They never really find much of anything!
I love when they are all, "did you hear that!?" And there is this vague sound in the background followed by an overpowering computer sound effect intended to intensify the scene. Dude, I can't hear any of this scraping or whatever you hear over your own sound effects.
I went out camping this weekend to a small town that has recently had Bigfoot sightings. Bigfoot Hunters is coming out there next month. It's a small town. Population of 366. The town is going to more than double in size because of all the people coming out. It'll be a great boost for the economy out there I'm glad they're going out. I've never watched the show though.
danstem ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:50:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend worked as a PA on one in our city and they "ghost" they found in the end was just him walking past a door holding some stuff. He didn't even know they were shooting him.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:50:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Not surprising, Ghost hunting shows are fake...
I was on youtube one time and started searching for videos of my local village just to see what came up.
To my surprise there was a video from a house that some sort of youtube based ghost hunting team had gone to and it was exactly what you expect, the host telling the other guys about all sorts of rumours and spooky shit that the house was "famous" for in the local area. And of course of all sorts jump scare moments with night vision and bumps in the night etc. as the team freaked out.
Except... My grandfather built that house and my dads side of the family all lived in it for about 10 years before my grandfather burned it to the ground when he fell asleep while smoking (he was ok).
The land was later bought by an Indian family who rebuilt it and turned it into a restaurant which was not all that successful and changed hands a few times.
I assume that one of the various Restaurant owners let these Ghost hunters in to shoot their show.
They did not appreciate me commenting on their youtube video and telling their audience what they had done.
Edit: On a side note... the last owners of the place failed to turn it into a money maker just like those before them and burned it down all over again for the insurance money. Its been sitting as a ruin for about 4-5 years now. The only thing its haunted by is the ghost of shitty Vindaloo curries.
Yeah, I stayed overnight on the USS Hornet as a school trip, and we watched the Ghost Hunters episode on it and one of the tour guides explained what most of the things are, and how almost everything was fake. At one point they 'saw a person' which was really one of the guides. Even though they knew it wasn't a ghost, they still edited it so it looked like it.
The trip was pretty cool though, we went into one of the rooms (foxle?) and they told us more 'legitimate' ghost stories and some little things happened like flashlights turning on and detectors beeping. I'd tell more stories from the trip, but I don't think this is the right place.
Joetato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
6-7 months ago, I saw this one ridiculous show were people were hunting Bigfoot. It's so fake and set up it's obvious even just watching it normally. For instance, in the episode I saw, they were investigating by a lake or pond or something when there's this splash. Cuts to an interview clip of the guy who was in the water saying, "Bigfoot just ran up to me from the trees nearby and threw me int he water! It was crazy, he just lifted me up and tossed me in! Then he ran back into the forest before anyone could stop him! He knows we're trying to find him and is sabotaging us!"
Of course, the cameras couldn't quite get to it in time and you just saw him go flying into the water. Later in the show, they find some woman who claims to have totally clear footage of Bigfoot walking around in her backyard that she took on her phone or tablet or something. the investigators watch it and say stuff like "Oh my god! That's totally a Bigfoot, clear as day! This proves they live around here." They never actually showed the footage on the show, just the reactions of the investigators.
I really wish I could remember what show this was because it was stupid as hell but simultaneously amusing as fuck to watch.
Ugh... I keep forgetting to find a copy of one of those bowel movements shot at a closed casino here twice. Saw a snippet of it and hoped they fell down a flight of stairs...
OMG my husband cannot stop once you start him on these shows. He will go on for DAYS about "if it's there, how come everyone who goes there doesn't experience it" and "those are spots on your lens, not orbs" and I don't even remember what-all he rants about, but he is completely correct.
A close friend of mine was on a low-budget ghost hunter show, and he doesn't like to talk about it. He SWEARS up and down that some old china jumped off of a shelf and broke while they were there, among other things. I totally believe it's all scripted and fake, but I think maybe they don't let some of their actors in on it, because he's still petrified to this day. Poor kid.
I love those shows because they give me creepy buildings to google. Then I have hours of wikipedia to get into.
noyart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
oh no, not ghost hunters, my favorite ghost hunting show, damn. Seriously tho, TAPS <3. They do have a film crew following them around so, not surprised ^ Its fun because the visit some historical places even in Europe in one season ^
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
These shows are my guilty pleasure. They're so fucking awful and pointless, but I can't stop watching them when I'm hanging out in a hotel room doing nothing else.
Not all though. I dont believe TAPS (The Ghost Hunters) are fake. I live in WV near the Trans Allegheny Lunatic Asylum and have been there multiple times and been on tours and have experienced a lot of stuff there. I know some of the stories and what sprits haunt what places and what happens and stuff. When the ghost hunters came here and did their investigation and the show aired, a lot of the stuff theyd seen was stuff that really happens down there
That reminds me of something. I don't remember what it was, but it was some ghost hunter show. It was the stupidest thing I've ever seen, they were basically talking shit to get the ghost to appear, calling it a coward and such. I'm having a hard time writing this out right now because it was so dumb that I feel stupid for credulously writing it down. Anyway, at one point, they turn this corner, and are filming into this room, and a brick or something flies at the wall out of nowhere. They start freaking out and run away.
The thing is, the brick came into the shot from behind a doorframe or something, where you couldn't see what was back there. You had nothing but your trust in the two guys and the camera man to make you believe a bit of it.
gitsao ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My nephew use to watch that show and I told him he should just watch the news because if they legitimately find a ghost it'd be on the news.
edit - for clarification, this was a wind up of a "renowned medium", Derek Acorah, from the UK's Most Haunted show, where he was fed information (as they all are) and fell for it hook, line and sinker. I think he quit his appearances after that actually.
StuTim ยท 211 points ยท Posted at 18:20:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Had a friend who worked on the Kardasians, they were filming a huge party. It was dead, no one doing anything. The producers asked of anyone had any ideas, friend mentioned beer pong. Producers made him act like a guest and teach the mom to play to make the party look fun. Everything is fake.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:10:57 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I FUCKING REMEBER THIS EPISODE ROB DIDNT WANT KRIS TO GO TO HIS PARTY SO SHE CRASHED IT ANYWAY AND WAS VERY SKILLED AT BEER PONG AND ALL OF ROBS FRIENDS THOUGHT KRIS WAS REALLY FUN AND THEN AT THE END ROB DECIDED THAT MAYBE HIS MOM WAS FUN TOO
They engineered their stories for years, most people know that watching the show. The only real part is the quips between sisters. Khloe and Kourtney are legitimately funny
I dunno. a 16 yo dating a 25 yo, a sister with a sex tape as her claim to fame, a recluse brother dating the ex of the said 16 yo's current boyfriend...
it's all very trashy, anything but boring. they're just trash with money
I heard from a tattoo artist that he had auditioned to be on Ink Master and met Kay Kutta (Season 2) and he explained that to be part of the show they look for personality traits and flanderize the hell out of you to make a character that can create drama to the show. Kay Kutta did actually have a criminal record so they used that to make him "the bully" of that season. The tattoo artist who I was talking with claimed Kay is actually a really cool and nice guy.
I was a canvas during season 3 of Ink Master. Anyone remember that crazy girl who stormed out because the Tattoo artist made her feel uncomfortable? 100% real. She completely lost it and started screaming to the point that all the artists were standing out side of their rooms watching it unfold.
Nixie9 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:23:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't remember this, you have a clip? or maybe an episode or something so I can google?
I think that was it. There was a younger girl who kept passive aggressively provoking him, and then he started getting overwhelmed and shaking with anxiety, and she wouldn't let up about how scared and uncomfortable he was making her. He eventually said he just wasn't the artist for her and she stormed out. I don't recall her yelling, but she really laid it on thick.
Was that the season where the canvases voted on the tattoos? I always wondered about how the people felt whose tattoo got voted worst.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Awesome name
[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 19:59:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ink Master
that to be part of the show they look for personality traits and flanderize the hell out of you to make a character that can create drama to the show.
I try to watch this show every year, and I get completely annoyed with the yelling, posturing and half-assed threatened fights. I'm actually glad to know they do it for storyline, but holy shit, it wears on my nerves.
I just like seeing the tattoos. We always fast forward through the "house drama" crap to see the challenges and finished tattoos.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:22:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's how I watched "Ink Master" online. Just jump past the fights on ProjectFreeTv straight in. I think that's probably why they threw some of the arguing into the judging panel, so people still get drama no matter if they skip or not.
Same here. I miss Best Ink. The contestants weren't all assholes, and it was about the results, not the gorilla chest thumping.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:55:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Felt like the judges weren't as bias as well and there were more talents in one season than on Ink Master... :/
[deleted] ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 19:46:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think that anybody with half a brain knows that all of the drama and interpersonal bullshit that happens on the show is fake but it's extremely hard to fake a tattoo which is why I like shows like that. I watch for the tattooing, not for the interpersonal drama.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:04:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I dislike about cutthroat kitchen. I want to see what they cook, and how they work around the sabotages. I couldn't give a shit about the forced shit-talking and drama.
That being said, I went to high school with a kid who was later on Cutthroat Kitchen. If anything, it seemed like they were downplaying how insufferable he was and how fed up with him the other chefs were since he went on to win.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:08:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh wow, maybe you're right. It just seems like most of the shit-talking the contestants do is really forced, and it seems like most of them don't even want to be doing it
Really? I always thought of Oliver as being kinda sweet. I think he is definitely very honest, as a judge should be, and sets the bar high for the artists. I think he'd be a nice guy to chat with, seems very chill.
I was a canvas during season 3 of Ink Master. Anyone remember that crazy girl who stormed out because the Tattoo artist made her feel uncomfortable? 100% real. She completely lost it and started screaming to the point that all the artists were standing out side of their rooms watching it unfold.
I loved the first and second season, but after that it was pretty obvious it became more about the drama and not the art. "I can tattoo circles around your ass" got really old.
Kay seemed like a chill guy. And that honestly doesn't sound fake so much as just necessary casting practices. If they were giving the artists more time etc that would be fake and deceiving IMO. All the editing and drama just makes for good tv so long as the actual challenges are legit.
Feler42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:18:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Flanderization is when a character starts off one way but becomes totally different by the end because the writing staff uses own popular trait and makes it their whole persona. It comes from Flanders from the Simpsons, who started as a friendly neighbor but eventually became a religious nut. Another is example is Stewie from family guy, starts off as a baby wanting to rule the world, now is just gay. Seemed to fit here.
Edit: I should also say that I worked on 3 seasons of Ink Master. The tattooing and judging are 100% legit; I can't speak from any sort of authority on the reality and characterization portion of the show.
Oh crazy! I've been tattooed at Oliver Peck's shop while he was there. He was kind of just in the zone tattooing. seems like he is a decent dude.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I watched that show a couple of times. Is it the one where the contestants have to do a tat on someone but the person getting it doesn't know what it will be? I can't even imagine allowing this to be done to me.
_MechE ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:54:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No nothing like that
Nixie9 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:27:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes that's a thing, like you can get any tattoo at all regardless of if you want it, the final is like that and it's usually a full back piece, which sounds awful, sometimes its mega vague, like they want an eagle but the artist decides the whole design, and sometimes its pretty specific, like they want a black and grey realistic arm tattoo of their mums face. Either way they're often a bit pissed off.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pissed I loved that show.
joltto ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:22:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All the drama shit was stupid but seeing the tattoos was still cool and no way to fake that.
Geeeboy ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 17:16:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm tour guide in the mountains here in Canada and we currently have a program being filmed in town.
Essentially the idea is that 12 random people all have to run different areas of a hostel. (Kitchen, laundry, entertainment, etc).
Anyway on each of the episodes, the 'staff' all go out and do something around the town, be it going to a bar or in my case, on a 4x4 tour.
I was leading the tour for their safety but they brought in some macho guy with ripped camo pants to be the on screen guide, while I was about 20 meters ahead leading him.
After that, we were made to stop because the producers decided it was time for a dramatic scene. I think one of the guys was to say something offensive to one of the girls and she was to throw a drink in his face .
We were there for about 40 minutes while this poor gelled up guy had a bottle of water filled up, thrown in his face, dry off, filled up and repeat.
If you're in Whistler, then I dodged a bullet. I was being bombarded by a casting director to participate in a show like this, during this exact time. I declined cause of my real life job but this definitely makes me feel better about my decision.
Geeeboy ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:20:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Impressive you knew that! Yep, up here in Whistler.
I'm in Toronto and they were begging for me to do it. Sometimes I regret it cause I think it would have been a cool opportunity but I also need to be responsible. Thanks for sharing that! Was wondering if it was happening.
I won Food Network Star season 7 fair and square. No shenanigans whatsoever. Maybe a little creative "nudging" during the narrative interviews to create a cleaner story, but nothing that changed the course of the competition. Every cooking competition was legit. If you made bad food, or presented poorly, you got called on it and eventually went home if you kept repeating these mistakes. I fortunately, made fewer mistakes, so I did not go home...
I get it ALL the damn time. I've done his show before too and we had a nice discussion about being each others dopplegangers. I told him I was the skinny Fallon, he told me he was the Richer Mauro. Touche.
I would kill to be on FNS but at this point I feel like the show is more about the best at cooking crazy food under pressure, not who would actually be a fantastic FNS.
He is the best. My goal, while taping that show is to crack up GZ and Sunny. I always try to pepper in nuanced "side-eyes," innuendos, deep-cuts and references that only some might get. I love when people tweet me "loved your Stern reference" or "did Jeff Mauro just quote a line from UHF." Its truly a blast.
Overall, the most thrilling part about this wonky TV career is literally being paid to be the class clown. Finally.
Vidur88 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:03:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just watched you on Cutthroat Kitchen this evening! Sad you lost after spending $16 000 on canned chicken. ๐ณ
Terrible mistake on my part. I was totally crushed after that taping. I blew it and knew it. What hurts the most is that you loose money for your charity and it really hits home
Ugh I'm so late in responding and this thread is dead. But thank you for responding! I am from Skokie and look forward to picking up some Pork and Mindy's BBQ sauce from Jewel soon. I enjoy watching you on the Food Network!!
It's pretty terrific. But he thinks I'm an airhead also. So we got that going for us
ZBQ10 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:33:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ahhh I love you sandwich king! I love watching you whenever you're on the food network and The Kitchen is such a fun show. You crack some great jokes and you seem like such a genuine guy. I love that you're a redditor too!
Miaow73 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:33:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love Food Network Star! If that's really Jeff from season 7, I was so glad you were the winner!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:16:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So wtf is going on with Ana this season? She's been the absolute worst from the first episode and the keep letting her stay, that HAS to be for dramatic effect.
Holy shit this is really you! My wife and I watch The Kitchen religiously for you (she likes GZ too....whatever.) Keep up the great work you do man, we are visiting Chicago soon just FOR thr pizza and Pork and Mindys!
Woot, the Sandwich King! I enjoy watching you when I catch you on TV.
Bobsods ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:33:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never watched this show before, but started watching season 7 last week and I'm halfway through it. ......I wish I wouldn't of read your name. Bah! I was rooting for Vic
Ha! My first post to r/vinyl - no, but I invested in some pretty high end dampers for the speaker bases. It totally works for my set up, and until I get some of that network, non-basic cable money, i finna buy me a new house with plenty of space for proper speaker placement. Then I will post a truly SCHMOOVE set up pic and in return, get buckets of Up-Votes dumped all over my chest, neck and shoulders. I want to literally drown in a brook of upvotes.
Hey man! Lot of respect for you. You did a great job that season, and you had some tough competition. My mom might be a little too excited to say something to you, so I'll just tell you she says hi.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:37:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually watched that season and I was rooting for you day one! I still remember you were asked to make some dessert and pretty much made an Italian cupcake or something. Judges didn't like it, but it made for great television!
my Italian Sub Cupcake with a Mortadella/Cornmeal Based cake, cantaloupe frosting, cripy pancetta and a prosciutto floret. Ina Garten would even look at it. It was a whimsical abomination and my first true TV trolling moment.
It might also be weird restrictions on how you're allowed to talk about shit on Discovery Channel. In the Myth Busters episode about polishing a piece of shit, they were only allowed to use very particular terms considered "decent," which happened to exclude the word "turd."
Film 24/7 and edit the stories once you get the footage to editing. If everyone usually wears the same outerlayers day to day then making a story would be easy.
I don't watch anymore, but I remember there were some editing shenanigans regarding one of the boats, the Maverick. The show made it look like the deck boss walked of the boat when he wasn't allowed to Captain, when in fact he worked the rest of the season. It led to the boat owner ending their cooperation with the show at the end of the season. Also, I remember that Cornelia Marie, the person who owns the boat of the same, not being happy with how they portrayed the guy who took over after Phil died and pulled her support of show.
Has a few beers a couple years back with a guy from the show while on vacation. He said there was a bit of clever editing and a few of the fights were staged, but the bulk of what goes on like battling the elements and injuries and such were very real.
I've gone in a salmon charter before on Lake Michigan, and the first mate was telling my family and I how dramatic production makes the waves look. He said that he used to work on a rig in Alaska and one that fished In Lake Superior. According to him, Lake Superior was much worse in terms of conditions then Alaska.
That probably has alot to do with Salmon fishing occurs during summer when the bering sea is much more mellow than winter. They don't fake the warnings the coast guards give out over the radios.
I was born in Alaska and have friends who have flown search and rescue. It all depends on what part of year you are up there.
True, but I've heard that the crew gets paid a flat rate by the show, so the drama of "we need to catch x number of pounds in a ridiculously short time just to break even on this outing and make sure we're not homeless" but isn't true
Step one: don't go out to the bering sea. Do what every movie company ever does, and film it someplace else while calling it the Bering sea.
Then just film it like you would film a show on a boat.
Alternatively, do the Road Hogs thing (or whatever that go awful biker building reality tv show was) and have the producers start shit or encourage "fights" among the crew.
Or do both. Film someplace safer and less timultuous, fake the storms you need, and encourage the real crew to have fake fights. Then edit it together to make it seem real.
The network owns the fishing spot so boats not associated with them go out of business. This ensures that they get the catch...at least that's what a Redditor said when this was brought up before
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:00:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure rigging is most of what some people do on boats
I worked on The SingOff and ABDC for several seasons in the contestant department.
The performances and the performers were all real (and really cool). I listened to Street Corner rehearse Creep on stage one day and got goosebumps from how good they were.
There are decisions made by producers to increase the market value of the show, like keeping a fourth group until the final round because they didn't want to lose a key demographic from the audience.
The finale was always live and based on fanvote online. So, that part was real.
One season of ABDC a contestant broke his leg. That was also sadly real as I was there to witness, call 911, the producers, and my manager. They were concerned about getting b-roll of him going into the ambulance.
He was a really sweet kid.
But these shows are exceptions in the industry, not the rule, and both have been cancelled.
cjhelms ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 18:40:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad to hear that something Ben Folds was passionate about was above-board. I enjoyed the Sing-Off
Strabbo ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:46:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd like to think that if there was some overt fakery and staging behind the scenes Ben would have cut out of there after a season.
IIRC they worked with choreographers. Usually the first performance was their own and then they'd have someone come in to navigate them. The groups still got say on their "style" or what moves/songs they wanted to use.
The turnaround time for each episode was about a week, both for ABDC and The Sing Off so they'd have to learn routines and/or arrangements over 6 days.
The contestants basically worked 7 days a week for the length of time they were on the show. If they got cut they would depart on the first flight the next morning.
The rest of us got two days off a week but they'd be middle-of-the-week.
That's interesting to know about ABDC. I loved that show, and sometimes I would think, 'They MUST have help for some of this!' I still want to see the Jabawokees (sp?) show here in Vegas!
A while back I went with the boyfriend at the time to Vegas and because we had saved forever we got to see a few shows. Zumanity, Absinthe, Penn and Teller, and Jabbawockeez. Even with how excited I was for PnT, Jabbawockeez ended up being my favorite show of the trip. It is so worth it.
envyxd ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:13:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ABDC would air edited performances, though. I caught tons of continuity errors.
ODL ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:59:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I worked on ABDC. On the day of taping, there's rehearsal, then dress rehearsal as if it was live with cameras for what's called blocking (aka getting the camera angles and camera movements dialed in...sometimes they'll run it two or three times in blocking). Finally it's done live (ONCE!) in front of a studio audience. Sometimes cameras get better angles during blocking, so they'll use that footage instead of the live one, but ABDC definitely is one of the authentic reality tv shows out there.
like keeping a fourth group until the final round because they didn't want to lose a key demographic from the audience.
This sort of thing is so plainly obvious in contest shows. They keep contestants that should have been sent home to keep that 'demo' interested in the show.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:50:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey I was a contestant on S.O.S2! Can confirm, street corner kicked ass. Actually (almost) all of those groups were phenomenal musicians, the "backstory" stuff was usually pretty b.s. But the competition itself was real, one take in front of the judges, and we had no idea who was going home each week.
Edit to add: the music (and especially a cappella) community is very close knit, the first few episodes they were trying to make us act all cut throat towards each other but actually we all hung out every night in the hotel and were great friends. We genuinely cheered for each other and were genuinely sad when groups went home, so eventually they stopped trying to make it seem hardcore and instead pitched the "Sing-Off: A different kind of competition" message.
If you would humor me would you be able to answer a few questions about the sing off?
Were the groups really only given the week or so between shows to not only choose, but arrange and practice each of their songs?
Were there certain limitations for what the groups could pick or was there a sort of pecking order? For instance no groups ever seemed to pick the same songs week to week. Was it just first come first serve in that regard or how did they go about doing that?
I've gotten to see Streetcorner, Pentatonix, and Home Free all in concert and they've all been fabulous. Even have a CD signed by all the members of Street Corner (Was super fortunate to catch them right after their set). What were your personal favorite groups, if possible specifically ones that WERENT front runners?
Typically the vocal arrangements were organized by Deke Sharon and his crew. He's working on Pitch Perfect and Pitch Slapped, now.
There were probably various songs offered to each group, however, the groups were a) very different from each other and b) filled different needs for the show. There was certain songs picked to fill different needs and they were matched to the group.
Street Corner were/are awesome and I stayed friends with many of them after the show wrapped.
From my position, the groups that acted the most professionally in terms of treating being on the show as a job were the groups that were easiest to work with.
The collegiate groups (Beelzebubs, OTR, etc) were fun but also had so many members that it was hard to get everyone where they needed to go on time. The Bubs were especially good at being where they needed to be when they needed to be there.
11th hour were very sweet and very mature for their age. They all had to have chaperones and did schoolwork backstage. It was really impressive.
One time STS stole one of the contestant department walkies and I spent a good hour searching for it before they brought it back. My supervisor was not amused.
As I mentioned in another comment, there would be group hang-outs after episode recordings. Having a farewell party was somewhat typical. During one evening, almost all the contestants were hanging out in the hotel's restaurant and someone started singing "this little light of mine..." Everyone had a turn to sing while the rest of the room kept a beat. It was beautiful listening to nearly 80+ people singing together.
A lot of night-time activity and all the fun that came with it was more in the realm of our night PA.
I mostly got to know some individuals. A lot of the OTR guys. I know some fun stories but it would be wrong to broadcast their lives for them. It's not my business.
That's wonderful to know! So for bits such as the "specific musician/ group medleys" each group only has various choices rather than having free reign as to which group they perform?
Reason I ask I was rather intrigued / confused as to why no one chose Michael Jackson (not to mention a few others) as their artist for "Pop artist medley" in season 3.
Oh! Those kinds of decisions also have a lot to do with what the studio can get access to. If we didn't have the rights to MJ we couldn't use his songs. Royalties cost a lot of $$$
Also, I remembered a couple fun facts. Season 2 there was a huge breakup between members of one group. They got eliminated in the next round.
Also, one of the all-male groups that season had a lead singer that was replaced by another member of the group due to being more marketable AND much more attractive. That caused a lot of drama.
I have a friend who had a thing with ABDC. the finale the team he was dealing with obviously won and with their online following and networking there was no doubt they won the vote, but the judges or producers chose the little kid crew. There's something in the contract that regardless the judges make the final decision.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
cidonys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love The Sing Off! I actually got to meet two of the Bubs - one is doing mixing and editing for my acapella group's CD, and the other was part of an acapella workshop I went to! I recognized him and told him that my family loved The Sing Off, and his face lit up and he said "I was on The Sing Off!" I was a bit starstruck and really glad that I could make him that happy. :)
The big swelling chord Street Corner Symphony hits in Hallelujah is probably the best thing I've seen on television just because I didn't know what the show was when I tuned in, and heard them sing the song and hit that great chord. Amazing.
I was at the Americana when we were recording the footage of the groups doing little holiday intros and outros. It was the most festively Xmas related thing I got to do in all my time in LA.
Jeremy Lister is such a talented singer and the whole group was so good and so sweet. I'm really happy that he got healthy and is taking care of himself now.
I work with a guy whose college a cappella group was on The Sing Off! Really sweet dude, with a genuinely incredible voice.
Apparently he and a few of his friends managed to sneak out some of the clothes they were given by the costume department and he still has one of the jackets, lmao. He also claims the hotels all the contestants stayed at got really wild.
I was obsessed with ABDC. Why did they cancel it? I can't imagine that the show lacked viewers (even if half of us were fast forwarding through nearly everything Lil Mama said).
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:42:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you work Season 3? That's my favorite one, mostly because pentatonix
Some people were divas and some were totally laid back.
The Pentatonix were super professional and treated being on the show like a real job. It was really great.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:51 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha I want to ask who the divas were but you probably can't name names. Judging from interviews and YouTube videos I've seen, everyone in PTX seems really nice and humble
Went to a filming of American Ninja Warrior. They filmed all night with over 100 competitors, running the course back to back for around 7 hours. The only ones cheering like on the show were family members on sideline, everyone else was kind of quietly observing.
It was impossible to figure out who would make the show and who ended up on the cutting room floor. After watching the actual show on air, even completeing the course didn't guarantee that your run would be shown (several got "over the break so-n-so made it to the end of the course" CUE 2 second cut of button press).
The best bet to making it on air (outside of their stable of famous ninjas) was to fail on the course in a way that nobody else had.
Yeah, you're right, they are totally random with who they let have that screen time. I was surprised last episode when Captain NBC only got a breif clip of him finishing the course, he's been a staple for a few years now.
I also went to the filming of it. They had the audience doing cheering and stuff for b roll and one of the announcers repeating the same line forever. Also, the final and semi final are filmed 2 consecutive days, not weeks apart. They do give them the time to finish or fail, we watched a guy who took over 10 minutes I think. We nicknamed him professor turtle because he was so slow! We didn't see any big names run... Overall real and fun to watch.
Fun side note: the floating steps had gotten a layer of ice and a ton of ppl were slipping. After a while they broke out the heaters, but the ppl who were failing because of ice weren't allowed to redo their run.
[deleted] ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 19:02:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My brother-in-law surprised our family a few years back by taking us out to dinner and at that dinner he announced that he was taking an internship in Peru.
...turns out he was on a major U.S. reality show and had signed an NDA and couldn't tell us where he was really going. He ended up being a semi-finalist, going all the way to the finale.
He said the parts that they make especially dramatic--the parts where contestants stand in front of the judges and explain themselves and then ultimately one is sent off of the show--could take hours to film and that each of them would have their reaction filmed a handful of times with the producers standing right there on set, acting as directors/coaches.
He also said that the contestants were constantly supplied with the booze of their choice and were encouraged to drink. He said people were under the influence of alcohol very frequently but that it would never be evident as the cameramen would keep the drinks out of the shots.
As far as the rigging of the results went, he said he was fairly certain that the producers were having the final say, but that the judges were I included in the decision-making process.
Nothing about the description would describe Survivor, which has no judges, doesn't have alcohol aside from select occasions, and doesn't have producers sending anyone home each week. Survivor's legit.
A friend of mine was on Cupcake Wars. His team actually came first. He said that the ingredients were partially random; the studio sent his team a list of 5 or so different ingredients that were potentials, and then 3 different themes. He had a plan for every single ingredient and theme if needed them.
There is a place up the road from where I live call Happy Cakes and they won Cupcake Wars. I don't watch the show so I don't know the specific episode/season. But that place has the best cupcakes Ive ever tasted. Not entirely related, but they are good cupcakes.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:45:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is what I figure about Iron Chef/Iron Chef America, too. There just is no way you can come up with some of those dishes on the fly.
Elryc35 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:32:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Iron Chef usually comes up in these threads, and that's exactly what happens. They tell the chefs 3-5 secret ingredients, the chefs send back what they'll need to prepare their dishes for each ingredient, and they can then figure out which one is under the box when they see what's in their station.
Lokifin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:50:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And no way that the kitchen would automatically have what they needed, especially Iron Chef. They will mention that the chefs bring their own extra ingredients (or order them? Whichever)
I freakin' love Cupcake Wars and did a CTRL-F just to see if anyone said anything about it. I figured there had to be some preparation involved, like there's no way the displays aren't discussed prior to arrival on set.
Apparently Iron Chef (the original Japanese show - i've never watched any of the spin-offs) was like this too. They'd get a list of potential ingredients that it could be, then they'd have a few weeks to plan their recipes.
The original Japanese was the best! Many fond memories of watching it with my mom and sister, giggling over the over-the-top pageantry and marveling at the chefs' creativity.
I was on Cupcake Wars (not as a contestant, more like a prop. Long story, but I was on set and on camera nearly the entire time). It seemed to be pretty rigged to me. Producers told the bakers to create nonexistent problems on camera and fed them lines, the cupcakes to be judged were pre made and I think the order of elimination was pre set too. I wasn't impressed.
I was tableau vivant (living art, aka human statue) for an art-themed show. So I stood completely still covered in heavy stage makeup and toga like a Greek statue for hours while they filmed :) There's a gorgeous production in California that runs for 2 months a year where they produce 2 hours of tableau vivant set to live music and narration, and providing cupcakes the celebrity gala event was the grand prize for the show.
Side note: I'll get to tell my kids that when I was in my 30s I was applauded for being stark nekkid on stage wearing nothing but makeup pretending to be art, and was not arrested for public indecency but applauded by several thousand people a night ;) I'm a terrible prude in real life...
djherp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:39 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God Ive missed that show
DJSpekt ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:33:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That seems about right. Chopped probably works the same way. Cause there is no way them at these people are able to come up with bomb ass recipes with the most random unheard of ingredients on the fly.
By all accounts, Chopped is actually pretty on-the-level about not introducing ingredients to the contestants until they open the baskets. The judges get a very limited amount of sway over them (Chris Santos mentioned in a recent AMA that they get a brief time to make changes to the baskets if they deem them too difficult, but that's before the contestants ever see them).
You'll notice a lot of Chopped competitors have no idea what some of the ingredients are, and they definitely mess up in the preparation with unusual ingredients all the time. If they were given advance notice, you'd think they'd look up how to properly cook them.
Britain's Got Talent: There are several hidden rounds with producers before you get to the main stage with the judges. My cousin is a very talented musician and got to the last round before the 'auditions', but they said he didn't have the right image. They select the most watchable acts and usually try and avoid any act that's too 'professional', in case they bow out and get a recording contract outside of the show's format - this is just concerning musicians, at least. So not fake as such, but slanted.
A lot of it is fake, though. Like they ha e some contestants compete on multiple versions of "Talent" to boost ratings and the contestants careers. The judges know they are plants but act like they are out of the blue surprises.
Not to mention all the people who they push through who are terrible but they need a demographic. I remember an old lady dance who was TERRIBLE, and not in the good way. Piers Morgan buzzed her every time and told her she was horrible, but they still put her through to the phone stages.
BobXCIV ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:17:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know The Regurgitator has been on multiple "Got Talent" shows. I always thought he was just going around trying to make it big in different countries, but after reading this, it seems like he might have been sent to compete on those shows by the producers.
Pretty much. Remember Susan Boyle, the breakout singer from Britain's Got Talent who looked very homely? The producers saw her perform before any of the judges so they obviously knew that she was going to at least make it past the first auditions in front of the show judges. They probably even purposely let her keep her signature look in order to get the "wow" factor too.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:15:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, so say I sign up for BGT. I do the first audition, is this in-front of the judges or the producers? If it's the latter, if they like my performance, I go through another round of auditions. Would I do the same performacne, or another one?
How is it that some absolute melons make it through to the later stages of the show?
Most of the audience reactions on those audition shows are staged too - they will have some combination of producers/MC/comedians directing the crowd to do various reaction shots at the beginning, with no actual judged participants around, which they can later edit into the TV episode. But yeah they're not going to have the celebrity judges sitting for hours and hours and hours.
A friend of a friend was in a band, they were invited to be on the show. They were told if they appeared on the show they'd be guaranteed a place in the (public votes) final.
My friend had the same thing, and funnily enough also for the voice which at the time was marketed as BGT for alternative people who may not be supermodels or have the look.
Ironically they told him, 'you dont have the right look for the show'. Spinning fucking chairs my arse.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:28:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, though, not sure how anyone could expect that every act gets on.
Though, I suppose I did believe they had everyone on American Idol. There must be some screening process...
all the got talents or idols and the voice, too, do this. but in my country now they also film and air the part of the mass auditions. it has been a public secret, and i think the producers just kinda roll with it and finally show that all that is true. also more montage to air, more money to make.
Undercover boss is a joke. Everyone knows the show, everyone knows what's going on. Everyone knows who the owner of the store is. And for those who don't are a simple Google search away from knowing.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:52:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I knew from "Hi, I'm Matt."
Jabonex ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 07:31:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 99.99 per cent sure Matt is Kylo ren.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:02:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I briefly appeared in an episode of Airport 24/7: Miami. My appearance was basically me doing my job the same way I would without cameras rolling. The same was true of the stars of the show since it wasn't like a traditional reality show where they need to create a conflict: the airport does that organically.
They got really lucky that some particularly notable events happened while they were filming, like when the fuel farm caught fire/exploded or when two aircraft collided on the taxiway. Everything they showed on the show actually happened, but editing did make some events seem more dramatic.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:45:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I watched that show a few times. It's actually interesting. What was pretty shocking was all the drugs and guns they had confiscated.
That show stressed me the hell out. I remember everybody at work would always have it playing in the break room. I'm like.. We work in a hotel. We deal with similar situations every single day. Why the fuck is this entertaining?
Oh I bet, there seems to be a ton going on at all times. I don't think I would last working at an airport. Hotels are bad enough, especially ones that are right next to the airport. No way in hell I would want to be in the middle of all of that.
I have a huge appreciation for Disney World for the same reason. My niece and nephew see the magic, but I see all the work that goes into it and love it even more than when I was a kid.
I had cousins on Extreme Home Makeover about 10 years ago. Everything is pretty much real. They built an entire house in about 4 days. They had pre-fabbed pieces for the roof trusses, but everything else was built in the spot. They still live in the house, and only had a few issues (when you build a house so fast, there are bound to be problems). It was a 10/10 experince for them, and I was happy to see it work from the inside out.
That is good to hear! I was just reading an article about a few of the families who had foreclosed on or sold their home that was built for them because they couldn't afford utilities/property taxes and stuff. It made me a bit sad.. Glad it worked out for your cousins though!
Are you my cousin? We were on that show 10 years ago. The only thing I would really say is "fake" was the crying/emotional scenes. It took about an hour for Ty to dig into things to make my mom cry, but on the show it looks like he sat down to chat and she just started bawling lol
Tbjkbe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:14:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No it's not. Yes, they build a house in record time but the show does not pay anything.....it's all locally donated as the companies PR team guilt trips local businesses or promises them advertising which is barely there. The people who do all the work designing and building are off the air. The on-air people are actors who are filmed over and over again looking like they are working when they really are not. And the crowd is taped over and over again to get the right reactions for the reveal.
I went to a filming in my hometown a few years ago. When the family drove up to the house for the big reveal ("move that bus!") it was obvious that from the angle they drove in they could clearly see the home already. The moving of the bus and their reactions were also taped multiple times.
On our episode our house was on a hill, so when they had the limo pull up they made us all put on blindfolds so we wouldn't see anything. Don't know if it was the same for your family's show though.
The history channel doesn't use real professionals. I'm not even sure they're real doctors half the time. Maybe some guy who has a PhD in an unrelated field. But most of the time they people they have talking about stuff are fake experts who provide "interesting" interviews.
I don't know how true it is but the "Aliens" guy from Ancient Aliens doesn't have a degree in anything related to aliens. I've heard it's in something like fitness and that he used to be a body building promoter๐
You can specialize in astrobiology when getting a Ph.D in Astronomy. It's a legitimate field, but it's not like "aliens built the pyramids". It's more like "what sort of conditions lead to or are required for life and how could we detect these in exoplanets."
ZoomJet ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:11:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went to college with him. I can't speak to his major but I can tell you it was a small college with limited areas of study and aliens was not one of them. Fitness on the other hand was very popular.
nessie7 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:22:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Since he's got a new show and has been in the spotlight again lately, I googled him a few days ago.
He is the director of Erich von Dรคniken's Center for Ancient Astronaut Research. He has a bachelors degree in sports science.
I have some of von Dรคnikens books, because they're hilarious reading, and also complete and utter fiction. It does annoy me a bit that that guy is better paid for doing fake anthropology than I will ever be for doing real stuff.
In one of the shows they have (I think it's called The Bible or something) they test stories from the bible to see how they could have been done using tech. They were talking about superconductors and the Ark of the Covenant levitating, and to explain superconductors they cut to some guy with a cutting edge "hologram glove" that was a normal glove with a hockey puck or something on the back with wires capped with yellow and red sphere on it. The show had been mildly amusing until that point, but for whatever reason that glove made me really angry.
My college professor was asked to appear on Ancient Aliens about an episode involving the ark of the covenant or something related to ancient Israel, but when she didn't say anything weird or didn't agree to what strange accusations they were making they thanked her and sent her packing
Edit: spelling
mpeskin ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:48:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mark Hall-Patton (expert on pawn stars) is actually the curator for several museums in Las Vegas and knows his stuff.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:08:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, he is the real deal, sucks people will think less of him for being on Pawn Stars.
Xperr7 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:59:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The main reason I watch Pawn Stars is what I learn about things
T_Right ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:49:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It always pissed me off when he would never tell the price/value of an item. Any idea as to why he wouldn't?
I stumbled on an episode of ancient aliens about Einstein and some crazy shit. They managed to get a very well respected astrophysicist to say some stuff about Einstein and "thought experiments" which they clearly edited to make it sound like he was implying Einstein was doing something magic with his brain.
Seemed like a lot of work to waste an expert's time just to get a few soundbites when the audience won't know the difference.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:26:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure by now no one trusts the History Channel.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:20:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Some of them are real. I forgot what the show was, but I remember the expert. Her name is Candida Moss and she is a lecturer and also a writer. Go check that up if you're curious
I've been 'squatchin for 37 years and got a phD in metal detectors
Orcwin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:17:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What would they use professionals for? I mean, if they'd had documentaries, then I could see why they would need them.
All I ever see when I skip past that channel is 'reality' bullshit though. people digging for 'treasure', people driving trucks on ice, people digging for gold, people cutting trees.
Come to think of it, most of those things would get quite a bit more interesting to watch if they were done by complete novices.
The history channel doesn't use real professionals.
They did, back in the day when they actually aired historical documentaries (early 00s and earlier I guess). Their stuff was actually really good and got me on my current career path. I have to admit, I haven't watched the channel since like 2002.
This is interesting to me. The first time I ever saw the History Channel was about 2 years ago and I experienced cognitive dissonance because the way it was always talked about, I was imagining something with serious, legit documentaries and instead it was all Ancient Aliens and Bigfoot.
It was great back in the day. They aired Simon Schama's History of Britain and a joint production (I think) with CNN on the Cold War.
My assumption is that the audience just wasn't large enough for that serious stuff, so they started doing the garbage they're apparently doing now. Oh well.
Thanks, this has explained such a lot!! I felt confused and disillusioned, thinking every time a character in a book mentioned it (for example, describing someone's tastes) it either hadn't indicated what I though it did, or else the person doing the talking had odd ideas about what is serious viewing.
I can quite imagine it starting out a lot better. That Simon Schama doco is really entertaining.
I was watching the Smithsonian channel the other day when they had a marathon about military aircraft. I thought it was the coolest thing that they just had Air and Space Museum Curators and military personnel (active and retired) explaining everything, instead of all the made up experts like History.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My professor had us watch an episode of ancient aliens (or some other similar history channel show) because he was on it. He was just as weird on the show as he was in class
Not entirely true about not using real professionals. Several of my professors in Uni have been on relevant History documentaries, but the thing is, History edits the crap out of the interviews. It sucks because my professors have so much to contribute, so many unique viewpoints, but the parts History chooses to keep are usually just redundant statements so that they can use "Professor" to qualify their documentary's claims. They take stuff mid-sentence in a casual setting and make it sound like the leader in the field is making some authoritative statement on the matter.
TCesqGO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of my college professors was on a History Channel show, talking about his direct area of study. They definitely use real experts at least some of the time.
Hahaha, they should use one of my old history professors. We had class on April 1st, and he prepared a whole lecture and Powerpoint on the "lost continent of Mu", complete with book citations. He delivered that lecture with a perfectly straight face, to the point where I was taking notes. (To be fair, I had been in college so long at that point that it was extremely difficult to listen to any kind of lecture without taking notes. It was reflex.) Then at the very end, still completely deadpan, he said "Oh, and by the way... April Fools."
Best April Fools joke I've ever encountered in real life.
Actual documentaries they will, but when was the last time they had that? You have to pay for premium channels, like History International or whatever else they call it now.
See thats why I have trust issues. I knew something was up when Id be watching a documentary or program and I would be like "Idk if thats right" or "Thats bullshit" and have to look it up. Fact: Aliens did build the pyramids tho
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:20:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A university professor of mine was on a History (or maybe Discovery?) show about dinosaurs. They lied to her about the name of the show and the intent and guided her to try and get her to say what they wanted. The show was about dinosaur sex (she didn't know until it aired), and they really pushed for her to say the word penis.
Here she is. Yes, the show was called "Tyrannosaurus Sex".
Catfish is a semi-real. The production team call up everyone involved beforehand, do the research, etc as nobody wants to fly halfway across the US to a dead end.
Nev and Max aren't informed of any info the production team find though, they have to find it out themselves, so all their reactions are genuine.
I think once in a while the producers have swapped the catfish/hopefuls around, when they want a good story, but overall it's surprisingly unscripted.
imjohnk ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 18:34:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've always questioned this because there hasn't ever been an episode that I've watched where the catfish denied participating in the show whereas it would be kinda understandable. It makes sense though.
They could totally still drop out. If they have cold feet suddenly they're well within their right to just not show
imjohnk ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:45:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah of course but then the production will still push it. There has been an episode where someone didn't show up and the day after he apologized and he would come to the "confrontration". I think the production definitely called him a few times.
Not a big fan of reality shows, but I actually really enjoy Catfish. I always appreciated how raw and intimate it is. It's also not super-exploitive, and they even professionally address serious issues like depression, lgbqt, and self-harm. Knowing that it's mostly unscripted makes it better. Thanks for sharing!
Catfish actually starts with producers looking for people "who want to come clean with someone they know online" as MTV doesn't do "ambush tv". They start with the catfish and work backwards, sometimes making online evidence themselves. Max and Nev then read the email and make their investigation. The producers know exactly what is happening while Max and Nev are kept in the dark for realism purposes. It's not even a fact they try to hide, producers have revealed it several times in interviews.
I hate catfish for thr sole reason they try to be filmakers and carry around a camera but have a full mtv crew filming them. Its like inception but full of people trying to be cool by internet stalking.
JMS1991 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:49:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Relevant username?
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:08:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read an article that said that more often than not, it's the catfishers that contact the show, because they want a clean conscience.
Yalnix ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:58:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love catfish. I always thought it was real because the stories are most of the time too boring to make up. What I mean is if they were scripted there would be more twists and exciting discoveries.
Nev and max are the best thing about that show though. They are pretty great together!
vlgro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:57 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always wondered what would happen if the "catfish" were to be a 13 year old kid, would their parent let them be filmed, etc. I guess this answers that. Love this show!
Throwaway for obvious reasons. I was on Love Island last year. It's a popular TV reality show in the UK, this year's is actually on at the moment. I guess people assume some is staged and rigged but you have NO idea how much. We were literally given scripts of arguments to have, things to say. You know when you see them having sex under the covers, not happening. We would have to imitate this 5-10 times each time and the producers would choose the most realistic one. There is whole parts of the 'villa' that you don't even see. Multiple camera rooms. Ever wondered how the islanders never clean but it always gets cleaned? There is literally cleaners, waiters etc in there the whole time. Only about 6 hours a day and night are filmed. There is a director there saying cut and everything. You know the ยฃ50,000 grand prize for the winner? Doesn't compare the ยฃ75,000 we got for being in the villa, regardless if we were there for 6 days or 6 weeks. When we got out we had meetings and I had over 600 brands queuing up to work with me. Now I'm a nobody and you wouldn't even recognise my name. Relationships aren't real, there is agreements that is 100% for show. Things are never how you seem. Also we are shown the episodes everyday, there is no 'will be cool to see what i look like on tv when i get out'. There is also outside contact, that is just bullshit. My jaw literally dropped on my 4th day when they showed us the show live on TV because of how different it was to reality.
I can believe love island is faked hugely, what I'm struggling with is the concept of the sort of person who would appear on there also being a redditor...
I wasn't actually a redditor at the time. What you seen on TV (if you watched) was 2% my personality and 98% what I had been told to say/do. I was broke and jumped at the chance to lie on my arse all summer and come out with enough money to pay my student debt and buy a house.
vonlowe ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:59:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read the paper the other day about the Sex scene being too racy to show just after 9pm... Now I know that it's probably fake, that is the reason why they showed it.
Totally fake. To create the scene in question (think you mean one with Emma and Terry?) they will be fully clothed on the bottom, with a duvet between them and nothing sexual going on at all, literally her jumping on him up and down with thick blankets between them and a scene that will have been shot at least 5-6 times.
KIDmimi ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:17:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was sure it was fake. Olivia and Rykard looked so fake. Poor Zara if it was fake too because she's now lost her title for nothing
Cheers for your post. My wife - and okay, now me too - is obsessed with the show. I watched it a lot more casually last year, but can't get enough of 2016. (I think it's because Big Bro is so awful this year.)
Bit of both. Basically I applied via an online form and got a call about a week later saying to email them my social media and a video of me being an arrogant prick. They're words were 'produce a short 60 second video outlining what drama you would cause and how crazy your personality is, don't hide your arrogance'. A lot of people tried to be nice or funny but basically all they wanted was sexy, arrogant, self obsessed people. I honestly wasn't like this but just seen it as acting as I had done drama at GCSE and A Level. After the video then I got another call inviting me to one of their studios for a test photoshoot and was asked some test answers. I just tried to imitate an arrogant jackass and it worked pretty well. After all this there were about 45 of us who had been 'shortlisted' and they put all 45 of us in a room to see how we interacted. Because there was so many and you had to stand out you needed to cause drama to be noticed. For my drama one of the other's winked at me and I took the opportunity to go all physco on them and started arguing and screaming at them abut how they were objectifying me and everything. The producers freaking loved it and we both got in but the other person dropped out a week before we were supposed to go in. We were then ordered from 1 to whoever many was left and then brought in in that order, so there was a constant pool of people ready to go in. So the whole bit about meeting the new islanders is bullshit, we all met twice and had drinks together before each 'new islander comes in bit' is filmed.
Question. How much does the pretend to be psycho stuff do in terms of affecting your personal life and are there any downsides from being on that type of show besides national humiliation for a few weeks and months afterwards?
Well it didn't affect my relationships with family and close friends as obviously they knew me so they could see that all the bullshit that came from my mouth wasn't actually me. Lost respect from a lot of people who didn't know me that well as they thought I was like the tv me. There is a lot of pro's, for example in nightclubs I'd be getting paid to promote, tons of free drinks, girls throwing themselves at me. When I came out there was positive and negative reactions on twitter for example, but after a few months people forgot my name, brands were no longer interested. I occasionally get recognised in a club or something which is flattering but no big deal. I still get a bunch of free shit from companies though because you get added to a PR database and that don't seem to realise that I'm like a Z list celeb now haha. Got about ยฃ400 of designer shit yesterday for PR purposes.
thats fascinating, i always wondered how like different contestants and reality stars from old years manage to do in terms of finances and comps afterwards. learned a lot. :)
obviously you have to keep your identity hidden but do you work in a public field now or completely different area?
yeah can't say too much without risking burning my ass off but I don't work in pr/modelling etc like a lot of the others went on to do. Let's say I'm more behind the camera now rather than in front of it. The two most difficult parts were getting out of the villa, and when everything died down and I become a nobody again. Big reality shock.
I'm on a throwaway because if it was found out who I was then my ass would be sued. I am NOTHING like how I appeared, we were told how to act, dress, what to say etc. There is literally 2% of my personality and 98% things I've been told to say and do.
It might do yeah, but it's unlikely they will see a comment on a random thread. Also the producer's that do the casting are different to the on show producers so they casting might not even remember it and I'm pretty sure it wasn't recorded for that part.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:55:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm trying to guess who you are, but the producers seem to edit everyone down to about a 65 IQ, so, I can't really figure it out. :)
We had to sign non disclosures and a bunch of contracts agreeing not to expose anything we seen or heard. We were also given strict instructions to 'act like really really dumb'. Any intelligence shown would be edited out. People like to relate to the islanders and a large proportion are teenage girls.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:21:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I figured as much. Now I can enjoy the show with a clear conscience!
Crazy to hear! I randomly just started watching the current season, and it seems so real. Although I did think all the "sex" scenes looked pretty fake.
Totally fake, I haven't ever done porn but the closest thing I can describe it to is how porn is shot, there is a producer there screaming to do this and that, it's literally the most un-sexy thing in the world.
Were you able to talk to the others about the fakeness, when the cameras weren't rolling? Like, "That was a tough scene. What have you got to do tomorrow?" sort of stuff?
Yeah basically once the camera's stopped we were allowed to do whatever including say whatever we wanted. We would also plan things out like when I was told about an argument I had to have that night then myself and the person would plan it out, we were given most of the lines and the outcome but had to improvise some too.
Most of the time the camera's weren't rolling people would be on their own, either just lay sunbathing or on their phones though they couldn't go on social media for obvious reasons. It was kind of like lunch break at work where everyone would discuss the work for tomorrow etc.
A bit, like after we filmed an argument and we were off camera we would laugh about it. We were all there for the money and others for fame too but it was a bit fun to argue and shout knowing millions of people would be seeing it. Kind of felt like I was in a movie at some points (sorry that is so cringe).
I didn't actually win so never got the ยฃ50,000 prize money but got ยฃ75,000 for appearing and about ยฃ30,000 for brand deals afterwards and maybe about ยฃ10,000 of free stuff and drinks. I used the money to move house (good deposit) and pay my student debt completely. Found work on about 25k a year. Sometimes kills me that I earned 4x in a single summer what I now make in a year.
I know, I had a couple of hundred in my bank account before going in, could hardly afford to eat but obviously thats not how they made it look. I would still be sitting with my student debt and no home ownership status without the show so I'm grateful and overall it was a great experience that I will never forget.
Friendships can form but in terms of romance there was no real couples. Everyone treated it like a job, there is no romance at all. It's so unrealistic what they show anyway that I wonder how people do think it's real. Like most people will not become official after less than a week and kiss on the first date without a lot of alcohol. So to properly answer your question, friendships: sort of/yes, relationships: not at all.
My aunt was on an old HGTV show called house swap. Basically, HGTV brings in 2 interior decorators and they go nuts for 24 hours on a single room in each other's house.
not 10 minutes into the episode and my aunt is arguing with the decorator because she wants to go all earthy (brown, orange, green, etc) and my aunt is just dead pan "no. She hates that." Inevitably, the decorator got her way and they decorated the room in the earthy colors. Come time for the big reveal and the neighbor HATES the colors.
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 20:18:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure it was like the show, Trading Spaces. I watched that show all the time. The very worst was when Doug and Heidi were the designers and they had two male gay couples do each others places. It was so so awful. One couple told the designers what they would like to see done more on the earthy side, comfy, cozy and I think the other couple wanted a more modern decor. When they did the reveal I was so shocked. The designers had done one place in all white. I mean, everything was white. There was no color whatsoever. The other couple's place was done in all black like a damned cave. It was the worst thing I have ever seen done. One of the guys in the 'white' place literally broke down and cried his heart out. He was so distraught he couldn't be consoled. So awful.
Heidi IMO was the worst designer I have ever seen. She did crap like cover walls with straw and make furniture out of cardboard plus line the walls with cardboard. Horrible.
The oasis beach room? WTF. In my house that would just turn into a massive cat bathroom.. I throw up at the thought of that being all over the floors.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:29:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Watching those two was like watching a train wreck. They were the worst. I liked the older gentleman and can't think of his name. He made a couple of mistakes but over all he was a good designer. I think his name is Frank. The other designers were good too. It was just Doug and Hildi. Yeah, those rooms she did from the link you provided are hideous. I would have totally flipped my shit if it was my house.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:21:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He had some really good ideas. He also had at least one bad idea though that the home owner didn't like. It had something to do with giant red lips in her room.
Or the one where Hildi made the upside down room....she hung all the furniture from the ceiling. There is no way I could do that to a friend/neighbors house. They even painted the room black...so I'm sure the couple had to start from scratch to put it back to something normal.
Covering the walls with straw?! How the fuck are you supposed to clean that?
Man, memories of watching this with my mom are coming back now. We watched it to snark at the designers. I think a great deal of HGTV's audience does that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:33:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And I think the couple with the straw room had a toddler, so now you have a room that's horrible that would take forever to fix and your kid's probably trying to eat it.
One ep of Trading Spaces season 2 was listed as being in Seattle. From a little investigative work I discovered it was really in Puyallup, WA about 10 mins from where I live. And boy were they not happy after the reveal.
If she's the designer I'm thinking of from that show, there was one episode where she stapled fake pink/red flowers all over the walls. I think that 95% of her designs were just atrocious in my opinion.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:09:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes that's her. Hildi. Everything she has ever done was absolutely hideous. There was one episode where couples lived on a military base. I don't recall if Hildi was the designer but I'm guessing she was. One lady said she did not want anything military. She wanted the room to be warm and inviting with earthy colors. Guess what she got? Military. Everything was cold and gray and just horrible. The lady expressed her concerns about it too.
You know, Czechhunter does a pretty good job of feeling like it's real. It's the exact same formula in every episode but I still enjoy watching it.
The only thing that breaks the immersion is when the "random guy" finally gets nude and he has a huge hard on. Yeah, I'm sure you don't want to do this.
I met a guy in Krakow who was once pulled off the street in Prague to have sex with a random girl. When asked why he went along, he just said "she was hot".
Funny enough, her name wasn't even Heather Brooke, it was Heather Harmon. People got confused because she brought in her friend Brooke for several videos and back in the days of Kazaa there were names like "HEATHER BROOKE BLOWJOB HOT PORNO SEX XXX [1].wmv" so the two names got thought of as one. iDeepThroat ended because she divorced her husband which she did it with, IIRC. And honestly, if the iDeepThroat couple can't make it then what hope do any of us have?
Belgand ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:15:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good thing I brought my step-mother along to the audition with me.
My family runs a bunch of storage facilities in Southern California, which is where they film the majority of shows like Storage Wars and Auction Hunters. The first year or so it was all real, but then we were getting 50-100 people showing up at all our auctions to try and be on tv. Auctions on storage units in Cali have to be publicly announced in the paper a week or so before the auction happens, so people would see that and know when and where to go. It became such a freaking disaster (and people bidding hundreds of dollars on units where there was nothing in them) that it became a problem for the people running the shows, too. They ended up having to stage the auctions and "hiding" expensive antiques in the units. If you look at the background folk in a lot of the auctions it's often the same people, aka me and some of my family members, other storage staff members, and friends of people who worked on the show.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:48:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hmmm... I'm honestly not sure. Having been to several storage conventions (yes, they are a thing lol) there are literally thousands of facilities just in SoCal alone. In western states where houses aren't often built with basements, storage is really needed. I know one of our facilities is located next to 3 other storage sites all less than .5 miles away, none of which are affiliated.
Yup! You can see me bidding on an auction in an episode of Auction Hunters. If I had hundreds of dollars for that unit, why would I have needed that $50 appearance fee?
Geawiel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:37:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My brother manages a storage unit in western Wa. He said that the amount of people they have show up for auctions went up drastically when Storage Wars started to air. They still get a lot more people then before, but the amount died down a bit.
Yep, it definitely has. Maybe it's because people realized 99.9% of the time a unit is filled with garbage, clothing from the 80's and the occasional dead animal.
It's not a reality show per se, but my sister's friend was on Jerry Springer.
She got on by being friends with a producer, but it was 100% scripted. The story was fake. Her boyfriend was on the show with her, but he was supposedly cheating on her with a woman he'd never met. They told them to act like he really cheated and he had to try to justify it.
Back when they were still taping the show in Chicago, I flew back to Nashville on a Southwest flight with a few Springer guests. Only knew because they were carrying their pay envelopes from the show. Also, their carry-on luggage? Black garbage bags.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:12:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jerry Springer
It hasn't been real since the 90s...maybe not even then.
Here's an example of what I mean: Cafe Erotica in a small town in Georgia. While there was a controversy at the time, I think some of the "housewives" protesting might have been actors.
I went to a filming years ago. I was shocked at how fake it was. Jerry would say they'd be right back after the commercial, walk back stage, the people on stage who'd just been fighting just sat there twiddling their thumbs until he came back.
My experience: When I was a teenager, a couple of friends and myself decided to see what would happen if we called up the "Be on the show" phone number at the end of the show. We did, and made up this completely ridiculous and stupid story off the top of our heads. The only reaction was "That sounds great! We'll take your info, pay for you to travel, etc. to get you on the show!" where I'm sure they would have expanded on everything we just made up with what they make up.
Never followed through though, it was more of an experiment for laughs.
Boyfriend's ex was on there with her friends. The story was all fake, but then she whined and cried about how people judged her for being on the show. It's like, fucking duh you knew what was gonna happen.
I know someone that was a producer on Jerry Springer. She said they would often be scrambling to find guests to be on the show and would just come up with some topic all at the last minute. It could be an hour before the filming and they may not have someone.
jenphu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aw I used to love watching that show with my grandma haha
OK, see the story producers have set character archetypes and their storylines/actions should reinforce that. So I'll get notes on scenes like I don't think Bob should have found that thing. Make it look like Joe found it instead, and instead of them being in the attic, can it be that they found it in the basement the day before? Oh, and if it could be snowing that would be cool.
Do you ever feel shitty for blatantly misleading and lying to people like that?
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:14:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's TV. What he's doing is no different from an editor cutting a scripted show. At this point I think it's safe to assume most people know reality TV should be taken with a grain of salt nowadays anyway.
I also edit reality TV. Hi. I feel your pain. Good luck at your next screening.
imeuru ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:04:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was just on two episodes of a reality show on a major network, and this was the sequence of my shots that ended up airing: Butt shot, back of the head shot, stumbling around like a weirdo shot, weird profile shot with a double chin, butt shot, butt shot, hand shot, butt shot, quirky face shot, me standing around like a weirdo, realizing im being filmed then slowly backing away shot, hand shot.
At least I got money for it.
suzepie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you watch UNReal? If so, how accurate do you think it is in its portrayal of the reality show production process?
And this is the reason I don't watch things labeled as Reality T.V.
If I'm going to watch Reality T.V. than I want to see things as they really occurred rather than what is essentially a T.V. show most networks would have rightfully straight up rejected without the Reality T.V. label.
In fact, it is because of guys like you that we ended up with the saying: "It isn't Reality T.V. It is Actuality." to let viewers know we aren't dealing with your nonsense.
All story-telling is crafted; even the news! History books have bias too. Everything paid for to be made has someone with a reason why they made it. You should question everything around you with such vigor because you will grow up to see that we are all pawns for someone making money.
In fact, it is because of guys like you that we ended up with the saying: "It isn't Reality T.V. It is Actuality." to let viewers know we aren't dealing with your nonsense.
Come on, they are doing their job that puts food on the table. Better stick to documentaries for more 'real' viewing pleasure. Even though there's also a story in them the best ones IMO are the ones portraying the subject in a neutral light.
I probably couldn't watch US tv news for a second because of their commercial bias. Thats why public broadcasting is a thing in Europe, it's somewhat neutral since its funded by taxpayers.
imjohnk ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 15:11:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of my friend was on a Dutch show called Barbie & Michael where they visited her hair salon. Before they actually came, producers came in to check everything out, make sure all the advertisement were removed and they were told how to react etc. It wasn't completely staged but it looked so fake that Barbie & Michael "spontaneously" came in like they were just visiting. In reality it was already planned that they would go there and the camera team was already inside. I think this counts for many reality shows though.
I auditioned for American Idol at Gillette Stadium a few years ago. Not sure if it qualifies as rigged, but there are a handful of stages before anyone sees the "Judges". These stages are judged by producers who often don't even listen to the person singing.
Two kinds of people make it though, the people who dress up like idiots, and the people who are lucky enough to have the producers actually listen to them singing.
I think it's American Idol or the Voice, but my friend's stepmom is a vocal coach and said that the only people who audition on TV are pre-selected through their vocal coach and if you aren't one of them you can still audition, it's just highly unlikely you'll be chosen.
The way it works is you have two sets of auditions, the auditions with just producer types where they weed out who will make good tv and who won't, film all of the lines, etc.
The you have a shoot day with the television judges where the cast (which is predetermined at that point) come in, skip the lines, and they shoot the tv sequences with the people who "made the cut". Film the crazies, and that's a wrap.
There's a few surprises here and there, but for the most part the people standing in line are just there to make it really feel like everyone has a shot and for good television, when in reality the competitors were cast months before hand.
Mythbusters always claimed that their experiments are real and that the hosts wrote their own dialogue. But beyond that it's staged for TV. In the "tastes like chicken" episode they go to a butcher shop in SF to buy a bunch of exotic meat. Well fuck me, I want to eat that meat too so I go there to buy some. When I get there the meat is totally ordinary and they have no idea why I'm asking about the rare meats. Then I tell them I saw them sell the meat on mythbusters and they said, oh yeah that was staged they brought in their own meat to film that.
Why do they need to show meat acquisition in the age of the internet? "we spent five minutes googling and then ordering the meats we wanted in the quantity we wanted". Why is a trip to the butcher shop gripping television?
squigs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:37:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's also obvious that a lot of the discussion about the myth and how they're going to approach it is scripted. But I guess that's fair enough. The real discussion is probably a lot of internal emails and researchers reading the forums.
Blaaa5 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:21:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The last time this was posted someone said that they went to the filming to the ep where they test to see if hair color or whatever makes more tips and before you can enter the cafe you have to sign waivers that says it's okay to film you
I recently had a friend appear as an actor in one of the episodes. I assumed it wasn't a very large budget show but I was surprised when she was driving her personal car and wore all of her own personal clothes in the episode. I don't know how typical that is but it surprised me.
autumnx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:05:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Her episode came out earlier this year and it looks like they are still coming out with episodes this summer. Since we now know the budget is essentially nil for the show hopefully you get years of new episodes.
My favorite reality show Big Brother is under scrutiny constantly for being "rigged or "manipulated", but many people who say they know producers ask them what is real and what is not, and as it turns out, BB is one of the most un-riggable shows there are outside of competitions. The fact that fans watch live-feeds 24/7 and have the ability to go back and watch means that producers have to be SUPER careful if they even want to attempt to manipulate contestants.
But that doesn't say they don't feed lines to HGs in the diary room, or they are purposefully only putting certain people's chips in the "randomized" bag for competitions, and rigging competitions entirely.
EDIT: Although I have not been on this show, I have watched for YEARS and have done tons of research into it. I would love to be on the show one day!
kah43 ยท 177 points ยท Posted at 15:41:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think there are different rules for shows like Big Brother and Survivor and such that are more of a game show than stuff you see on the other channels. I am pretty sure if money is involved as a prize then they have to be a lot more above board about things like having events and comps planned out in advance and such.
imjohnk ยท 226 points ยท Posted at 15:59:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Survivor is as real as a reality show can get. A camera guy of Survivor did an AMA about it and it all seemed legit, except that conversations had to be staged when it didn't got caught on camera (as far as I remember) but that isn't that big of a surprise.
The most convincing evidence for Survivor's legitimacy is in the physical transformations players make.
Case in point, Russell Hantz. He played two seasons back to back, which were filmed only two weeks apart, and he went the full 39 days both times. It did a number on him.
The interesting thing about Survivor is that producers legally can't rig it, as it's a competition. However, they can influence the outcome of the game by catering challenges to different players' strengths and introducing twists but even then the outcome is out of their control and it can backfire, as the players ultimately control the game through the democratic rules.
imjohnk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:25:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah we have this show in The Netherlands as well and I've watched every season and it's definitely worth it.
tjgamir ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 20:21:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If people want to see how real Survivor is, just watch the Samoa episode where Russell Swan was medically evacuated or the latest season's (Kaoh Rong) fourth episode. Russell Swan's evacuation as Probst once said was the scariest moment he has ever encountered while doing Survivor, only to be tied/beaten by the other episode I just mentioned.
By the way, Kaoh Rong has Scot Pollard and Big Brother's Caleb 'Beast Mode Cowboy' Reynolds if people are interested to watch.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:44:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hope the producers never make this mistake again. It was horrifying and heart-wrenching to watch. I was so emotional I cried through the whole thing.
lozzern ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:30:51 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Essentially setting up a really gruelling challenge in such insane heat without monitoring and predicting what could happen.
They set up a challenge that involved digging a path under a log and squeezing everyone through it, then racing to a giant sand pit to dig for bags of balls for the next part of the challenge. They were in extreme heat and sun and were digging for up to an hour. You could tell they were all getting exhausted and there's huge potential for heat stroke even if you're healthy and not exerting yourself, yet they were all low energy in the first place.
It's been said that the producers could have called for a pause and given everyone a break in the shade with some water to cool down, without showing it on TV. Give everyone the same chance and avoid something like this occurring.
Waniou ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:21:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't suppose you'd mind elaborating on what happened on those two events?
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:43:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
The first mentioned event a contestant mid challenge passed out. Out completely cold. Eyes rolled back in his head. He came to briefly and it happened again. No heart rate for a decent chunk of time as well iF I recall correctly.
The second, fairly simple challenge - don't want to give away too much about who or what but three people suffered severe heat exhaustion. It's the only time survivor has broken the fourth wall so to speak - dozens of crew out there helping the contestants, the medical team legitimately scared someone was gong to die. Helicopter medevac.
There have been others of course - season 2 mike skupin falling in the fire, broken arms, severe infections, bugs crawling into people's ears.
For that to happen it takes something serious. Afterwards the flood of people rushing to help was worrying. The moments where Survivor becomes very real are some of the scariest moments on TV.
Oh god I was thinking about the bug in the ear again just yesterday. What a horrible nightmare. To be able to hear it in there and have it hurting her and biting her... argh, it made me so uncomfortable to watch.
tjgamir ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:48:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not good with storytelling so here's a writeup from an article about Russell Swan:
The most dramatic event in Survivor history has to go to Russell Swan during his time on Survivor: Samoa... Russell is seen โrestingโ on his corner of the table maze much to the disgust of his team mates who think he is slowing them down. Russell then proceeds to collapse and fall to the ground at which point Jeff calls medical in. It turns out that his blood pressure was dangerously low which was due to dehydration. Despite his pleas that he is okay, he is pulled from the game. Due to the life threatening situation he was in, Russell Swan deserves this top spot as the most serious accident! Even Jeff Probst has admitted that it is the scariest scenario he has ever seen.
As to the Kaoh Rong episode, three players from each tribe suffered from heat stroke after finishing the challenge. Two of them recovered fast as they only needed shade and water to lower their body temperature, while the other one had to be medically evacuated because his condition was getting worse that he had to be covered in ice, hooked to an IV, and needed an oxygen mask to breathe. There were around 100 production team members visible on tv catering to the needs of the castaways.
Forgot about the Skupin fire accident way back in 2001, in the second season of the show. Mike Skupin fell into the fire while attending to it, had to be evacuated and brought to the nearest hospital thru a helicopter.
The entire season of Kaoh Rong was absolutely brutal. More total medevacs than any other season. Some of the infected wounds that people were walking around with looked absolutely miserable.
I haven't read it confirmed anywhere, but it definitely seemed like there were some challenges later in the season that were easier than normal, with less-elaborate setups. Almost like at the last minute they looked at some challenges and said "Nah... let's not do this challenge. People are going to die."
Caleb (the one who got med-evac'd) was so dehydrated that his body was pulling water from his muscles. If he wasn't so muscular, he would have died. Someone the size of Tai would have died in his situation.
I don't watch Survivor (I want to, but I want to watch BB2-15 first) but I did watch that clip. It was probably one of the most emotional things I have ever watched.
mcakez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Caleb was using steroids and water-weight fasting in the months before Survivor. Is it possible that played into it? (I know there has to be a name for when you intentionally dehydrate yourself, but I will be damned if I can come up with it.)
You forgot the one episode where a guy passed out from smoke inhalation...directly into a fire...and then proceeded to run into the nearby water source to put himself out.
That one was from one of the first seasons, completely insane.
Kiddler ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:47:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it also has Debbie!
tjgamir ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:39:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes the part time model, chemist, laser technician, USAF Civil Air Patrol Captain, manufacturing supervisor, former FBI agent, caretaker of nuns, actress from The Bold and the Beautiful.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Survivor had a few controversies about the first season. But they really got their act together after that, and it's still going strong into S33, even if it's gotten a bit gimmicky.
Yeah, they'll pull some editing tricks, but nothing that overtly favors any one player. There's too much money on the line; past players have filed lawsuits when they felt the producers were unfairly influencing the game.
They'll do things like:
Insert out of context reactions or facial expressions to increase the drama.
Make races/competitions seem close when they were not. If the editors are trying to play up a rivalry between 2 players and one of them won the challenge, they might make it appear the other placed second when they actually were 3rd or 4th. Again, this doesn't affect the game in any way, but is done just for dramatic effect.
All aerial shots of challenges are filmed using body doubles after the fact. This is done so that helicopters don't show up in any of the ground level shots.
Competitors are transported to challenges in motor boats or cars. They'll film everybody getting into their canoes to "paddle off to the challenge", only to have them turn around, beach their canoes, and get into the trucks.
They may be asked to re-enact key strategic moments (such as finding an immunity idol) if the cameras missed it, but but they are never asked to do retakes of conversations, or told what to say.
producers may ask leading questions in private confessionals, but contestants are never prompted with what to reply. that said, the contestants know very well what the producers want to hear, and may give it to them to increase their screentime. This is often used to increase dramatic tension and suspense going into tribal council, even where every tribe member knows perfectly well who's going to be voted out.
Much is done to preserve the fiction that the two tribes are all alone in the middle of nowhere. In reality, there are cameramen and crew all over the place, and their camps may only be a quarter mile from a road. The "wilderness" they're stranded in may be a fairly small, explicitly roped off area they are not allowed to leave.
None of this is a secret; cast members freely talk about it after their shows have aired. They all confirm that the starvation, the elements, and the hardship are all very, very real.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:38:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually think the body double is more so that 100s of cameras and crew aren't in the helicopter shot - but everything you said is correct.
You're telling me. I love it, but it's crazy how it just keeps going.
I think it costs something like $20 million per season. It regularly wins its timeslot, too, so it's very much still a goldmine.
rabboni ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:17:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just never get tired of it. This past season was brutal too. Multiple medivacs (and even the folks who didn't get an evac dealt with some nasty stuff.
The show barely focuses on the "survival" part anymore, but the little they do is just so compelling
What are some good, "classic" survivor seasons you might recommend watching? I hear tons of good stuff about the show since I used to be a big fan of The Amazing Race, but never actually started it.
rabboni ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:30:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Classic?
Pearl Islands is a favorite among just about everyone. Wildly entertaining with great characters.
Season 1 is a fun watch just to see the game before everyone followed a somewhat similar pattern.
Season 2 had the first real "hero" and is another fan favorite
Season 3 was brutal from a survival standpoint and had some of the best rewards
Season 4-5 were down seasons in my opinion. 5 especially just wasn't fun.
Season 6 was a big bounceback. Some fun cast members and hilarious moments
Season 8 was an all-star season and was definitely interesting from a gameplay standpoint. Some heated moments, etc.
Season 9 - Wow. I'd love to spoil this for you, but I won't. Season 9 and 10 are two of my favorite seasons (though a LOT of people hate 10).
Season 12 was the first season I watched (then I went back and saw the others). I had a friend on that season and it got me hooked following his game. Some great immunity battles in this season and Bobdog (not the guy I know) was a great character!
Season 15 is probably second to Pearl Islands in terms of non-returning player seasons. Absolutely fantastic cast with a beautiful location and great challenges. A perfect season.
Season 18 is another one that really nailed it with characters. Gotta watch for Tyson but Coach is one of the biggest personalities to ever play.
Season 19 was notorious for having a new level of villain. One that would eventually become hated, but I honestly kind of liked him this season. Two or three other good cast members but in all honesty kind of a meh season otherwise
Season 20 was Heroes vs Villains. It was an amazing idea for a season and paid off well.
That's about all the "classic" seasons. I wish I could watch them all again for the first time! Enjoy
OMG thank you for the long list! I really appreciate that you took the time to write out a description/overview for each season, and I'm definitely going to check these out!
Yugisan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:48:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
(though a LOT of people hate 10).
You sure about that? From what I've seen Palau is pretty universally beloved.
jlim201 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, its pretty loved, its quite a different season.
rabboni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
jlim201 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:09:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Season 4 is a strategic gamechanger. Its a pretty good season, and should be watched. Its not as good as the first 3, but still excellent TV. 5 is definitely skippable.
Season 7 is Pearl Islands, and it is regarded as one of the best and a classic. Season 28: Cagayan, is not a classic as it is only 2 or 3 years old, however it truly is great. It will leave you on the edge of your seat, and it is one of the most interesting casts I've ever seen.
Season before last... season 31 (Cambodia/Second Chance) was INCREDIBLE.
All of the players were out there for their second time. The producers hand-picked 32 previous players who were interested in returning, and they held a poll among the fans to choose 20 out of those 32 to actually be on the show.
Because they were all returning players, they were all on their game from the first moment.
An all-star round? That seems like it wouldn't be a great starting point since I wouldn't know anyone beforehand. I know it's still watchable, since I was an avid fan of The Amazing Race and they also had all-star seasons, but those seasons are soooo much cooler when you already know the background stories and have seen the people before.
I really don't think you would need to know anything about the players beforehand. The contestants themselves talk about having played before, but there isn't really anything about the enjoyment of watching that's keyed off of already knowing them.
Every reality show is different. I liked the Amazing race All-star rounds because I knew the people beforehand, but maybe it isn't as big of a deal in Survivor. Thanks though!
jlim201 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:11:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, not a great starting point, and it very much gives you the wrong idea of Survivor. Start with earlier seasons, and then move forward, don't have to watch every season (5, 8, 19, 22, 23, 24, 26 are skippable seasons personally). 8, 11, 16, 22, 23, 25, 26, 27, 31 have returnees.
Yep. Ever since season 20 or so there has always been a "theme" and has gotten a little bit gimmicky, but the themes usually fade out a few episodes in. This upcoming seasons (Season 33) is called Millennials vs Gen X, and people don't really care because they know CBS will do away with the tribes and swap them out.
Yeah, as I recall - while it looks very rigged, most of Survivor is genuine.
There are things you don't see, of course - like supplying tampons and sunscreen, but the people are actually out there and actually competing.
cymblue ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:36:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about it looks rigged? It looks very real to me
voltar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably because it's heavily edited. It kind of gives it a feeling of not being completely genuine, like your average reality show or something. That's my guess.
Yeah, from what I understand there is an area near the camp where every survivor has a 'stash' of items like these, including stuff like meds they need to take, contacts (notice some switch off and on glasses occasionally). I'm sure it includes some stuff like condoms as well--better safe than sorry.
I was a production assistant and survivor Australia and from what I saw there was no rigging.
A few things of note the challenges are run once as real competition but a few hours of additional filming is done to get closeups and different angles most of the time
Contestants get regular medical / mental assessments and supplimental feeding, they dont want a contestants to leave or be sued so they get regular medical assessments normally in eviction day filming. Also due to filming crew taking time and energy so they suppilmented with food and water
imjohnk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but that's logical for anyone who thinks for a bit. It would be weird if women just had to deal with it if they were on their period. Getting the good shots isn't rigging at all because obviously they have to shoot good shoots to make the show better.
The competition is done separate from most of the filmed stuff, which is later staged to get different angles from what the scattered crew caught and looked good but wanted better angles.
It was either on here on somewhere or on a forum for the show that this was laid out.
The Amazing Race is completely real, there is very little in the sense of Frankenclips and when they do it's only because a real event wasn't caught right. It's not a show that needs too much in the way of manufactured animosity or conflict but the dialog can sometimes be coaxed out in leading ways. It really is more of a season long game show than a reality show. Even Jeopardy is edited down to make it seem like questions are answered quicker.
Huh, that was pretty interesting to read. He described a medical tent for people who need daily medication - I wonder if survivor would accept a type 1 diabetic after reading that? Probably not - it'd be super terrible and I (type 1 diabetic) wouldn't want to do it, but I'd absolutely watch that. I remember fantasizing that my luxury item would be my insulin pump or test kit when I was in middle school and season one premiered. There are even better blood glucose monitoring options now, like the Freestyle Libre (not available in the US yet :-/) that would make a competition like Survivor more doable if a pump was allowed.
There are just so many things - certain jobs, travel, etc. - that you kind of just shrug off with a condition like this. It's just too expensive to stay healthy doing anything other than "normal" stuff. It'd be neat to see a diabetic do Survivor.
Gbiknel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:44:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The problem with survivor is the wreckage they leave behind. They destroy a lot of nature to make the show, then just up and leave.
imjohnk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:51:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As far as in The Netherlands they only build things and not really wreck anything except getting some coconuts from the trees? And even then it's still worth for the show because it can't be that much.
Gbiknel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:04:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They'll show you to a tropical location, clear whole areas in the forest for different things for their games. They'll also leave a lot of trash behind when they leave. There have been multiple articles about it. This is he US version though, not sure about other countries but it's hard to find a perfect location without some destruction.
imjohnk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:46:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think there are different rules for shows like Big Brother and Survivor and such that are more of a game show
Rigging a game show (or any "competition show" with a prize) is a felony offense. $250K fine + prison time. Not to mention how badly a network/production company would be discredited...it would be career suicide.
After seeing some extremely unlikeable people that the entire audience was rooting against win shows like Survivor and Big Brother, I'm confident it's not rigged.
jn2010 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:35:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you're right. I do suspect that Big Brother is a little flexible with their twists to maybe get a popular person back in the house or something.
There is one season of Big Brother in particular, Season 13, that fans of the show understand was heavily manipulated to benefit the producer favorites. It's annoying but it was kinda the dark age of the show, and it hasn't really happened since.
Roger from season 2 ("Kentucky Joe") came to my school when I was a kid. He mentioned that they were one of the most malnourished groups ever by the end of it, to the point that after a competition where they used walnuts as slingshot ammo, Jeff Probst felt bad for them and gave the group an unopened bag of walnuts to take back with them. He remembered the exact number of walnuts that they each got, so food was clearly extremely crucial for them at the time.
If I recall correctly he said that Elizabeth Hassleback had to be hospitalized for a few days due to severe malnourishment as well.
You'd be right, there was a court case the first season of Survivor, when one contestant sued CBS for allegedly pushing someone to vote her out. It was settled out of court, but she had a case with them potentially causing her to lose a couple grand.
imjohnk ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 15:21:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the power of Big Brother is that they play these games to fuck up people, as well as that the cast members live in a small place together 24/7 with basically strangers.
But at least it's not as fucked up as the British or most European versions. In those, you literally just live with people and the "house" tries to make drama and then are evicted by the public. In the US and Canada, you're trying to win power, immunity, and not get evicted. It's a game of strategy and a really cool social experiment.
BTFCme ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 20:31:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've worked in reality for about 8 years and big brother is the least scripted show I've ever worked on. Meaning that it's not scripted. Are they guided on how to make their answers more concise? Yes. They suck at speaking. I'm also a huge fan of the show.
Same here in Brazil. The Big Brother Its a game of strategy. Here we have the pay per view (24/7 cable tv) and the show goes air everyday on a quickly edition of forty minutes that show the main events of the day. At Tuesday the players voted and two top voted players compete to stay in the game. The public that choose by voting on the website.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:59:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a lot like Big Brother Australia, except the housemates put 6-8 people up for eviction (instead of 2) and the public votes to save, not evict. The person with the least votes to save is evicted. So instead of the most hated person going home, the most loved people stay.
In Big Brother US and Canada, it's all done in the house. They are not supposed to get information from the audience. The Head of Household decides who is up for eviction, and the house decides who to evict.
I actually like both. They're different, but both enjoyable.
How is this different to the UK one? I'm a little confused at this statement, because in the British one you are also trying to win power, immunity and not get evicted. Do the public in the US decide who is up for eviction rather than the housemates ?
I've never seen the British version, but in the US version one person in the house (who wins that week's competition) decides who is nominated and the other house guests then vote to decide who leaves. The public has no real part in it.
In the first season of the U.S. version, the public got to choose who was evicted. There were so many issues with people voting 20 or so times for one person, and people hiring airplanes to fly over the BB house with banners, they never did it again. Probably why on some shows where the public votes, you only get a certain number of votes per voting method.
This isn't the reason for the format change. The public vote format just turned out to be extremely boring for Americans. Back in those early days, people on reality TV worried about being seen as "nice". (Don't believe me? On season 1 of Survivor, being in an alliance was seen as a bad thing.) The more controversial and entertaining houseguests were voted out very early. Also, the HGs manipulated the votes to have many-way ties, rather than giving the public only two choices which is supposed to happen. There was no strategy to speak of.
Turns out Americans prefer a more strategic and cutthroat game. Glass House tried the public vote format again a few years ago and it flopped just as hard. (However, that house was absolutely beautiful, and "fanswers" is a concept Big Brother should absolutely steal. But they'd better not let any houseguests ask inconsequential questions like "did you smile today".)
Jonazq ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:33:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
and big brother sued glass house for copying them and a lot of the production used to work on big brother
In the first season, they let the public vote houseguests out but what ended up happening was all of the controversial players got voted out (ex. the stripper) and what was left was the nice, safe, boring people. hard to get good ratings with that happening. The lame tasks they made them do didn't help either.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:53:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I found UK and Aus boring as crap and really lame... Much prefer the US and Canada versions.
In the US one the houseguests are evicted by the other houseguests rather than the public. At the end of the week there are only 2 people up for evicition. At the start of the week one person wins Head of Household and they are the only one who makes the nominations, not the whole house like in the UK version.
On some occasions yes. But as someone who has watched both. They are basically the same but the American one likes to have America Vote on things like sometimes its who gets slop or who should go on the block, or a couple years ago 5 houseguests were made a secret alliance and america gave them missions to disrupt the house. If the houseguests accomplished the missions they got money when they got out. But basically it is the same thing just minor cultural differences.
imjohnk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:51:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually never watched the US and Canadian one, only 2 seasons of CBB in the UK. They actually can get power and immunity by playing games like "who said ___" and they have to guess and stuff like that.
Definitely recommend the U.S. and Canadian versions if you have time. I've watched some CBB, and I really just love the North American version so much more!
International big brother (outside us and canada) is even more fucked up psychologically imo. Rather than nominating each other out and explaining your justification, as allowed in US, you're not allowed to discuss who you've nominated in UK for example. So if you're nominated to leave by majority of housemates in UK, you probably won't always know who the ones were who want you gone, and they're not even allowed to discuss it, so you go around and pretend you're all still friendly, because wtf else is there to do if you can't even talk game. Almost always a blindside. Idk...it would fuck with me mentally if I couldn't even confront multiple people who want me gone.
My cousin won Big Brother Canada. He said the only "rigging" in the show was interpreting what the diary room people said. "Tell us how you feel about X". You could probably guess they were up to something if you were none the wiser.
Otherwise; Big Brother's legit; and go Jon Pardy!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:21:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How? He won HoH and knew that he had no chance winning in Neda was in the finals with him. She was evicted, just like everyone else who wasn't in the Final 2. :)
It's so hard to find people on Reddit who also love BB, other than in the show's specific subs. I could chat all day about it. I like to think that the show isn't rigged, but there's definitely some things that appear differently on tv than it actually is in the house, obviously. Like I heard from a previous HG that Zingbot doesn't actually talk. He just stands there and sways around and the houseguests hear a recording from a producer in the Zingbot voice. Stuff like that that's just manipulated for tv. I hope I get casted one day to find this stuff out. I think that would be one of the most interesting things about being on the show.
I'm going to my first open casting call next season for sure. I've been waiting until I'm done with school and have a kick ass job so I seem like I'm actually interesting to the producers. Ha.
I think with shows like big brother they don't really need to interfere. When you have like however many hundred thousand people apply to be on the show, you can pretty much use some insight to pick personality types that you know will work well together.
From there...locking any strange group of people in a house for nine weeks, filming every second of their lives, making them compete and taking away their food sometimes will inevitably provide hours of entertainment.
I've done lots of research on it too. I think the biggest thing that shocked me is that the house guests actually get to practice competitions before hand (about a day before the veto competition they will set up a mock version of whatever the competition will be if it is one involving technique or physical skill).
The fact that they have live episodes lends credence to the fact that it must be pretty much unscripted.
but to be fair, i was watching the live feeds the other night where they were preparing for the berry competition and they set up one of those lines that hipster college students have, like a tightrope, and used that, even though the competition was WAY easier than that. i've heard that they make them practice for things that are way harder than they end up being
i've heard that they make them practice for things that are way harder than they end up being
Sometimes. They're given something similar to what the actual competition will be and they practice with that, although the actual competition will be a bit different.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:49:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And everyone gets an equal chance to practice.
Jonazq ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:18:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and if houseguests use production as a strategy they get called out or have to take back what they said. this happened yesterday
Worked briefly on BB around 2008. I can say the only 'rigging' that takes place is in the contestant selection, and it's hardly that. They purposefully find people with extreme, opposing opinions to ensure friction, and supply the fuel and kindling with booze and boredom. However nothing is scripted, they don't need to.
The house was only built to last one year, but it stood for nearly ten I think. By the time I was there, every time a housemate showered we'd have wet feet in the camera run on the other side of the mirrors. It was just chip board walls and it stank like a hamster cage. If there was a technical problem inside the house that needed intervention the housemates were told to go to an area and were locked in while staff worked on it, ensuring isolation.
If you got your camera too close to the two-way mirror sometimes the housemates could see you and they'd usually laugh or point which would get cut from the show.
There's been two houses. The first was built for the original international format of the show, and reused for the first four seasons of the "new" format. For BB6 they built a new house on the other side of the LA river. This house remains in use today.
Wow that's incredible. In recent seasons contestants have complained about an ant problem in the house, mainly the kitchen. Was there a bug problem when you worked on the show?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:29:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
they revamped the house recently. ever since Big Brother Canada has blown America's out of the water.
This is exactly why I want to be on it. It is the most genuine to me and I have a background in psychology and I just want to see what it would be like. I tried out at the same audition Steve got picked from last season but I don't remember him being there
Honestly, when I tried out I got the impression that I was under some vague consideration. A lot of producers told me they thought I was cute and had a good personality for television- which they weren't saying to other people that I noticed. I stuck around checking out who all was trying out and talked to people for a while asking them what it was like working for the show. In my bio I definitely talked about how I was planning to lie to people about my background and how difficult that would be since I talk a lot.
I don't have a bikini ready body so I wasn't thinking anything was going to come of it but I did get a Big Brother rubber ducky out of it and helped film a promo for out local news station so I got to see my face on commercials for a summer
Some lines are fed to the houseguests. But they do talk in the DR for hours and if the producer hears something they like, they'll ask the houseguest to say it again in a different way or with different phrasing.
I'm just saying their lines sound rehearsed, and not genuine. Which will happen if you're being told how to say things, especially without acting experience.
The only lines that are 100% fed to them are the descriptions of comps. The only other way it's scripted is that the DR asks them to change their wording and how they delivered the line.
I don't feel like anything is rigged (on my show). When I sit back and think about what it would actually take to rig the show to the point where conspiracy theories say it is, it would take a ridiculous and flawless execution from LOTS of people. Something the CIA can't even pull off. As far as confessional scripting on reality shows, some of the more story driven ones might be, but mine was definitely not. The only time it comes off as scripted is most likely when the person being interviewed cannot find a way to be succinct in his or her own words, so they may get some help to paraphrase what they are already thinking.
Wow! Thanks for actually responding! I think one of the reasons that Big Brother and Survivor are so popular is because audiences appreciate how genuine they actually are.
Do you speak from experience with needing help with Diary Room succinctness? :D cause yours were the highlight of my tv viewing experience last summer
You get 2 different stories when someone talks about their confessionals: 1. I just went in there and talked. 2. "They kept trying to have me say xyz."
I have a friend that was on big brother a few years back. They actually finished 2nd place and won the 50k. Supposably it's all real and none of what goes on is from producer/show interference. I still watch every now and then, but the highlight was definitely watching them on TV.
Truly a detective! Haha thanks though you are probably right.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:44:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
During the filming of Big Brother Israel there were bombs going over the house and they could hear the sirens going off. I don't think they were allowed to go into a shelter and weren't informed about the severity of the attacks until a month later.
Yeah I love Big Brother also, and the diary room manipulation could be sort of rigging, I guess. The random chip draws too, and some comp stuff sometimes. But overall I think the show is very real. Maybe I'm an idiot for thinking that though.
The thing is, if they rig the random chip draws, the houseguests could actually draw two of the same name. It could never happen. The people in the house would know what production was up to, and they would say it on the feeds.
There is absolutely no way that they would remove certain people's chips from the bag. Big No-No. That falls under the rigging rules shows like Big Brother have. Also, during one of the veto draws in BB 16 (I think it was final 7 but don't quote me on that) Frankie got so upset that his chip wasn't pulled that he got up and started digging through the draw box. There is no way he would've let that go if his chip wasn't in there, in the house or otherwise.
It's not. I know some of the actual producers who despise some of the contestants as-is. Of course, those ppl are put in a house for their characters and the expectations that sparks WILL fly one way or the other.
My favorite reality show Big Brother is under scrutiny constantly for being "rigged or "manipulated", but many people who say they know producers ask them what is real and what is not, and as it turns out, BB is one of the most un-riggable shows there are outside of competitions.
Maybe the American version, but I'm fully convinced that the producers of the Canadian Big Brother twist the show around to give advantages to fan favorites or certain people.
Season 4 eased up on them a bit, but Season 2 and 3 were getting to the point where I was losing interest in the show because there were so many twists and secret competitions/vetos that, imo, completely negated any sort of strategy. The best example I can think of is the secret power Brittnee and Sarah in S3 won (they basically both received a secret veto which would remove BOTH people from the block, which they had a few weeks to hold on to and use when they wanted). I wouldn't have minded as much if it was introduced early on when lots of people were still there, but it was given to them with only a few weeks left.
I actually just finished BBCan4 and thought it was a really good season! I have seen half of season 1, but not 2 or 3. I didn't see too much influencing in BBCan from what I've seen. But if what you say is true, and these people got that CRAZY power, then that is manipulation in its definition.
Big Brother is best played without all the crazy twists. BBCan4 was a perfect example. It had those wild cards, but nothing that hindered game-play, like the US's extremely stupid stint of "Battle of the Block."
Yeah, Canada went really hard on the twists for Season 2 and 3, but they eased up a lot on them in Season 4, which was nice to see. I just like seeing pure, trashy Big Brother without intervention from the audience. There are other examples of stupid twists too, but that one sticks out as being the worst.
I did notice on BB18, that America is going fairly hard on the twists this year too, but nothing too game breaking yet.
What I'm hoping is that either next season or All Stars (which is rumored to be BB20!) will be a normal season with NO TWIST. Like the twist should be that there is no twist.
I feel BBCan got lucky this season that Tim made it to the end on his own. If he was up to be evicted, I'm sure they would have saved him with some "Twist". Also the Lovita and Kelsey thing was a bit manipulative I found.. I knew Kelsey would be going back in 100% to keep a showmance and rivalry alive.
I don't think they went too hard on twists in BBCAN2. They were generally pretty tame, especially compared to BBCAN1 & 4. The only real twists were letting Canada vote on who should be nominated and putting a houseguest in the game like two weeks late.
Just look at Frank's first season. They rigged that shit to keep him in about 3 times. It was painfully obvious that production had a serious hard-on for him.
Huh, I never thought about it like that. I just assumed he was an amazing comp player.
I mean, he did win the first BBRoadkill challenge, but that could just be a coincidence.
Although he has gotten a ton of screen time for nothing, basically.
Huh, I never thought about it like that. I just assumed he was an amazing comp player.
He was. The game wasn't rigged for him. He was just amazing at competitions. Winning the comps he did is the only reason he lasted as long as he did in the game, because he was the target pretty much every week. His wins kept him in the game.
And this is coming from someone who fucking despised him.
I used to love Big Brother but after about season 8 it got dull to me and having outlandish people on it just makes it worse. I know it's not popular but the most honest one was the first, even though many thought it dull.
Ha! Unfortunately I don't even know what Heat magazine is, and I appreciate and adore the game and the strategy behind the game. I'm less interested in the fame but half-million-dollars, and just a chance to play my favorite "game".
To be fair, a lot of us BBNA fans consider the international versions to be overly trashy (although a lot love the UK and Australian versions).
For the record, the US version is a completely different beast. Nominations are made by a single person who has won immunity for the week, and those nominees get a chance to save themselves with a power they (out of 6 total people in the competition) can win. Eviction votes are done by the houseguests, so in order to win you just have to have a good social game and (usually) a good physical game. Since it's not a popularity contest like the UK version you can be the most hated houseguest ever and still win, and you can be the most liked ever and be out the first week.
The houseguests would and have talked about what they thought was rigging in competitions on the live feeds before. I'm not saying it couldn't happen, but if it did happen it would be obvious to people watching the live feeds.
I can't tell if this was in support of or against what I wrote in my comment.
All I was saying was OP presented it in their post as a consistently live feed from when the HGs enter the house until they leave. He claims this is the reason Production needs "to be SUPER careful".
It is nothing like that. The feeds are down a ton... and are never on during any important competitions, that have large ramifications on the results of the game.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:33:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I knew a girl who was on MTV's "I want a famous face" awhile back. They made her confess feelings she didn't have to her gay best friend and she couldn't tell him it wasn't true until after the show aired. It ruined their lifelong friendship in the end.
edit: forgot a word
boxopen ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:50:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Couldn't she just say in private?
magemax ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 21:19:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People believe that any NDA they sign is binding, regardless of its legality.
I can't believe how many friends feel bound by clauses in their contracts that would not be enforced in court because they are illegal.
Yeah, fuck that. I would back tf out of any contract at that point, and if they pulled the ol' legal card I would say it was causing lasting emotional trauma for the both of us. That's fucking awful
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I blame the people involved for not being mature enough to deal with a bit of attraction, even if it was fake.
They made her confess feelings she didn't have to her gay best friend
now try re-reading? is that better?
spmahn ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 18:02:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not exactly a reality show, but most Game Shows have a per episode prize budget, and have methods in place to put the brakes on if someone starts winning too much. Too many winners on Price is Right? The producers start breaking out games like Lucky Seven and That's Too Much that have very low win percentages. Your bankroll too high on Wheel of Fortune? Your bonus round puzzle will be something like Oak Bureau or Choir Practice.
algag ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:00:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget since they give RSTLNE in the bonus round they get direct influence on the difficulty of the puzzle.
Can confirm. Too bad Ted Slauson can't come back to the show
jrm2003 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 18:49:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a video editor, I can safely say it would be nearly impossible to make an entertaining reality show that wasn't at least a little fake.
There's very little budget and very little turn-around time, so I'm not going to have time to sift through 1000 hours of unscripted BS to create a convincing narrative.
I've done that before. It's called making a documentary and even a 30 minute short doc takes months to edit properly.
Most Reality TV is nothing more than loosely scripted TV, with extra shots to allow for some spontaneity, and that is the only way to do it (that I know of) without:
a) Releasing 2-3 episodes per year
b) Budgeting for an army of scripties/ assistant editors/ on-the-fly writers (Think the Truman show)
c) Being more of a talk show/game show/reality hybrid
Not a reality tv show, but I was in a commercial for Cedar Point (rollercoaster/amusement park) and I really did get to ride the ride that they were filming us on to advertise it since it was the new one that year. The only part they didn't include in the commercial was the part where the ride broke down while they were filming and we were stuck up in the air for 45 minutes while they fixed it....
Edit: Since people asked, it was the Windseaker. Like one of those carnival swing rides only a lot taller and much more sturdy than some piece of crap that was on a truck yesterday.
[deleted] ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 16:44:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My roommate and I strapped into the RipCord at Challenge Park (the little area between Soak City and CP) and he took it upon himself to be the one who pulls the cord. We get the 200ft or whatever up there and he flat out freezes. Can't talk, can't move, just terrified of the emptiness below us that you don't get with a roller coaster. It felt like we were up there for 10 minutes before he finally dropped us, apparently it was like maybe 2.
It was the Windseaker. It's like one of the carnival swing rides that goes around in a circle only this one is a)much more sturdy and b) goes a lot higher in the air.
I was a witness on a show with a certain syndicated judge. The cases are real. The people are real. The rulings are final.
But, you sit in a green room for hours beforehand not getting fed, and watching Jerry Springer, and a bunch of producers come in trying to get you riled up. My mom had to submit a statement of her side of the story, and the producers brought it to her with some "edits." She had to basically say "lol no, that's not what happened" and get them to redact some of their edits. They pretend to be on your side, calling names, and you know there's someone else in the next room saying the same thing to the person you're in court against.
When you go into hair and makeup, there's people walking you through the halls talking on walkie talkies to make sure you don't run into the person you're suing/the person suing you beforehand.
The people in the audience are paid actors, and they just have them move seats between episodes.
And, lastly, if you've ever been wondering why people go on those shows, you get paid to appear, and if a judgment is made against the defendant, the show will pay for the defendant's damages.
I've seen some really horrible hairstyles, makeup, and outfits. Like people don't know how to dress to come to court, don't realize how god-awful their hair and makeup looks. Is that faked? I'm disappointed that that show isn't as real as I always thought it was.
They don't pick out wardrobe for you. The guy suing my mom showed up in a golf tee and tennis shoes, and they didn't help him out with something more appropriate for court. (It was what he wore to everything.)
Also, hair and makeup was about ten minutes. For me it was a little blush and some lip stick. I actually felt bad for the gal who was doing my makeup, because you could tell she wanted to be doing something important/conceptual, and here she was doing makeup on defendants for court TV.
So, my guess is that the vast majority of what you see is what people appear in. I'm imagining the hair and makeup is just so your features are more distinguishable on TV?
I have seen some atrocious hair and makeup on (what I think is) that show. Some women dressed like they're going to the club, or trashy in general, and trashy looking guys, too. Saggy pants, tee shirts, and one guy came dressed like one of those guys who dress up in the same crazy fabric their girlfriend is wearing to prom. Stupid crazy outfit. All shiny and glittery. I feel much better that this is all on them and not the show.
Judge Judy cough my throat really gets caught sometimes, sorry.
read a story about people abusing the appearance fee. 3 roommate buddies decided they'd bullshit a case and show up faking that they hated each other etc. Judy saw through their shit but they still got ~$1000 or whatever the appearance fee is and they left victorious
And the people who are supposedly watching outside and giving input on the case with Harvey Levin? Nope. The production crew is grabbing random shoppers and tourists at an outdoor mall in LA. They give you a one line synopsis of the case and Harvey puts the mike in your face - which is why some people sound as if they aren't seeing all the details.
Harvey is super awesome though. Very, very nice and incredibly professional. Those segues are single takes.
friend of mine was on Shark Tank Season 1. They made a "deal" with an investor but they later demanded terms so onerous in the negotiation friend said fuck it and walked. So I suspect lots of those are not consummated.
From the two people I know who've been on it: if the deal is scuttled during due diligence/post pitch negotiations, it doesn't air.
chadcf ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:00:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've followed up on various companies, and that's definitely not true, there are plenty of deals that never go through but get air time. Here are a few followups, several of them were aired but never sealed the deal.
Oh, maybe I was a little unclear? They can not get a deal and air and they can get a deal and air but I was told by my friends that you can't get a deal, have it fall through AND air.
In your friends particular case I guess they chose not to air it, but there have been some companies that got a deal, had it fall through, and still air. In the link above your comment, #6 is one of those.
chadcf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:51:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, it was clear, your friend is just wrong. The link I gave has several examples of companies that got a deal on shark tank and then had it fall through.
Robert has a reputation for being a pretty honest and decent guy, in surprised he did this. Most would tell you Kevin and Mark would be the ones to skip deals
I was on Bath Crashers on the DIY Network. It was pretty legit and unscripted. They staged some things like my buddy and I launching the old toilet into the dumpster but for the most part they just filmed while we all worked and did our thing.
The most "rigged" part of the show was definitely how the timing of the project was presented. I believe on the final edit they made it appear to be done in 3 days but in reality there were still contractors putzing around with final touches for around 3 weeks and while the final project WAS truly impressive, there were a few things that were done pretty wonky.
Is that like yard crashers where the host stalks people at Home Depot trying to find a willing participant? I've always thought that part of the show was so fake. Funโฆ but fake.
Yup, it's A LOT like that. You actually just reminded me of another fabricated part. To choose the participants for the show they had a huge open call for people looking to win a bath remodel. Hundreds of people stood in line outside of a local hardware store waiting for there chace to meet with the producers for their shot. While the line was still basically full some of the producers went threw the line and cherry picked a few couples they liked the look of, literally. These couples were then interviewed and then of those couples my friend and his fiance were the ones that were picked. It was at that point that they did the fake "random" stop in the store with the host.
Can't believe I forgot this staged portion. I'd still say that it's about 50/50 regarding how genuine the show is.
37214 ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 20:12:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd like to hear from someone who was on GUTS (or Global GUTS) or Legends Of The Hidden Temple. Loved those shows, wanted to be on either incredibly bad. Actually, still want to be in either of them.
Apparently, those were real. I did read an interview that they sometimes had to do re-takes of certain events or competitions if it surprisingly crumbled. For example, I remember watching an interview with someone (don't remember who) from GUTS season 3 who said all three people on the Mega Crag got disqualified for crossing into someone else's path or missing a button, so they just started it over.
Also Kirk Fogg from Legends said they had to redo temple runs a few times. Once someone got caught upside down in the pit room, threw up, and started crying, so they had to start everything over.
I know it's not the same, but I was in the front row of a taping of Slime Time Live at Nickelodeon Studios when I was a kid. I remember it as being super real and super awesome and (after I got slimed) super slimy. Haha! The host was nice and we had a blast.
src12 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:55:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They interviewed Bryan Beer II, a former champion on KFC Radio, which is a podcast on Barstool Sports. Here's a link to the video if you're interested.
Kirk fogg was on an episode of the Jeff Rubin podcast and said they shot both seasons of legends in like 3 days. He'd never hosted a show before and they recorded like 10 episodes a day, which explains why he fumbles his words a lot haha.
Edit: here's a link to the episode. It's really interesting.. He also interviewed Mo from GUTS in a different episode. It's a great podcast.
I was on "Make Me a Millionaire Inventor", we were asked to show up to a day of filming with our prototype. We told them our prototype wasn't ready and it wasn't going to be ready in time. They said that is ok just come. So the day of, I reiterate and tell them that our prototype still isn't working and they said no problem, just try to get it going. Then when they start filming they call me out said I tried to show up with a broken prototype and trick the professor we were working with. Off Camera. I gave the director the stare of death as I realized he just tossed me under the bus, because I know he is feeding info to the host through a wireless ear piece.
actkms ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 20:17:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So I haven't worked on one, but if people are interested in this stuff you should really watch UnREAL. It's a fucking amazing show about all the shit the Bachelor producers do. People have come forward saying a lot of it is real (although some is hyperbolic). Chris Harrison and people from the Bachelor are really not happy with it and are trying to fight back actually.
Guess I can finally have a comment on one of these threads. I was on the reality TV show 'wife swap' a while back, and you've probably figured it out, most of it is fake. Before they actually set up the scenario where your mom goes away for 10 days, (they say it's two weeks but it's only 10 days) a camera crew and director get a 2 HOUR INTERVIEW on tape with each family member. And of course, they ask about you, and then just throw loaded questions at you, to get clips of what they want to use in the show, and what answers you say. Didn't say an answer in the way they wanted? The director will say, "can you answer again, but like 'this?'"these clips they use later, to set up the scenarios that they want , because nothing interesting even happens.
After they do actually swap moms it's just super crazy and awkward. More set up daily scenarios , interviews every day, hell once I had to walk down the stairs three times so they got the shot. It was bad
I'm getting bored of typing so the worst part is that they set it all up to create problems that don't exist and try to make one family look good and one family get torn apart . Which unfortunately was my family. Parents almost got divorced because of all the fake shit they set up.
Edit- a lot of the emotion seen in the show is real, though. It's just a lot of it comes out of frustration and stupid set up scenarios. Like, one time they caught my sister and I arguing about something that was completely irrelevant to the show , and they just caught the end and threw it in the show, where she was crying due to being so upset from the cameras.
TLDR it's set up, lots of re shooting and prompting. Fuck wife swap.
(I'll edit this later on mobile and phones gonna die )
Riveris ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:52:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If I could know if the one with the crazy military mom who forced her 11 year old daughter to put her art in a box under the bed or the one with the crazy cult family was fake, that would be great
As a lifestyle thing it's probably fake. They take moms who have certain stereotypes and lifestyles and try to play on it. Like they'll ask a 'military mom' to probably do something to be stricter to the kids she's with, I'd assume. So what you saw was likely the result of that. It is kind of 'real' that she did it, but I can guarantee you it wasn't on her own motivation.
Riveris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:04:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I gotta know man, what fake problems did they set up that almost got your parents to divorce?
valque ยท 221 points ยท Posted at 16:29:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a friend that auditioned for the Voice. Beforehand he had to choose his coach before getting on stage.
This way the coaches get an evenly amount of singers.
So it's basically a game on the Judge's part as well.
Pick this person or wait for someone better to come along. It's actually interesting.
imjohnk ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:46:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah it was interesting the first season in my opinion but now it's too much because they have 2 seasons of The Voice every year. Obviously just because it earns a lot of money and garners a lot of viewers.
Season 1 was a real mind game. Adam went through an episode or two without picking up a single member for his team, which is a huge risk because even when he sees that perfect, awesome singer, he may still lose them to the other judges. It paid off in the end though, because I'm pretty sure his guy won. After that though it was a shitshow because Christina at several points wouldn't even try for the best people. She would just go "I wanted to turn around so bad, but I'd rather see Blake and Adam fight over you instead".
Your friend must have misunderstood (at least if this is the U.S. Voice, which is the one I have experience with). Contestants are asked whose team they might like to be on, but are also encouraged to listen sincerely to each coach's pitch in case they change their mind. The one thing the producers go apeshit over is good TV, and part of that is an unexpected coach/contestant pairing (like when a country contestant goes with someone other than Blake, for example, especially if they said beforehand that they WOULD choose Blake).
On the U.S. Voice, nothing competition-related is rigged. The coaches have no knowledge of the contestants before the blind auditions, their contestant eliminations in later rounds are not pre-determined, and the audience votes during live shows are not manipulated. The only "fake" stuff is that contestants are encouraged to bring up their life stories whenever possible...but that's pretty much par for the course for any reality show. I have enormous respect for the way the show is run.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:52:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I just watched an interview with Alisan Porter (Curly Sue!! :) ) and she said when she got on, she had already decided that she was gonna pick Pharrell Williams. She said her mind was made up.. But when she listened to their pitches, she ended up going with Christina.
valque ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:42:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was the dutch version of it (the original). In the dutch version they changed the formula to make it less real after season 3. One judge even stopped because of that. Maybe the US still has the version of the first seasons of the voice of holland.
I will ask the guy what it really was that made it fake when he auditioned five years ago. :')
In addition to this, I've auditioned for the Voice and the X factor twice each.
The X factor does non-public auditions for people with potential (people who sing publicly and enter open mic competitions and stuff). The public auditions are mainly just to find the weird/quirky people. My mum and I got put through, but I think that was because we were mother and daughter and they could have played on that. We had to go into a room with a producer and a camera (one of us after the other) and they asked me all these questions like "how does your family feel about you competing against each other" and "are you jealous or mad at your mum". It was weird.
The Voice makes you fill out a massive application form first - who is your idol, what is your sound, etc. Then you go into a room with 9 other people and sit in a circle, listening to each person sing in turn. You only get one minute to show off your voice (which is impossible). They send you out of the room and bring you back in and tell you who gets through. It's brutal listening to all the good singers before you.
Thanks for sharing, I've always wondered about the real behind the scene of x factor.
Sorry you haven't made it through yet.
From your experience, do you have any thoughts on how they choose the people that will eventually go on tv?
Do you feel that, by the time the public auditions start, they very well know already who will make the live shows?
If you want to get onto the first TV auditions you need to be bad, but in a funny way. Extra points if you have the balls to say something mean to the judges. Even if the producers say no to you, don't take it as a no, just brake down, that could get you through. That's my advice for 5 minutes of fame.
If you want to get on to the live shows you have to have "the look". You have to be a young, at least slightly good looking person, with a sound that would get on the charts. You also have to stand out a bit - whether this means having experience (lots of open mic nights, entering local competitions etc) or just having a great personality (eg Lauren Murray). You also have to perform. Don't just go into the room and sing, you have to move, show expression and use your hands. Be on a stage, but in that room.
In my personal opinion, they already know who will go onto the live shows. If people react strongly to people via social media during the auditions, I think that works in their advantage. I think that who goes out at each stage is decided before hand. That's why (in my head at least) someone could do a terrible job at the judges houses but still get put through "because I know you're better than that and I want to give you another chance to prove me right" cue crying and "I will I promise"
The whole thing is orchestrated to get the best possible views, to the point that watching from the outside you can predict it. At the end of the day it's about getting a lot of views, not making people famous or helping their careers.
Sorry but unless you saw that first hand I can't put too much trust in that. True it's a singing competition but the real contest is between the judges. It them trying to see the raw talent and who can groom them the best to win the contest. They get a choice if multiple judges turn around but if only one turns around and its not the judge they chose then they have no choice. Your friend was probably asked which team he wanted to be on. Not that judge he chose is the team he was going to he on
valque ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:29:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was in Holland, where the Voice comes from. It was about 5 years ago he told me. So it is quite possible I don't recall it correctly. But what I do know is that one judge stopped after season 3 because they changed the formula that made it less real. Maybe the US version has still the formula from season 1 and 2 of Holland Voice. Or the contestant has to make a top 4 of judges. Or it is beforehand decided who turns around. :S
Anyway, I will try to contact the guy who told me five years ago. To tell the story correctly. (If he calls it correctly)
[deleted] ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 22:10:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I have an acquaintance who was on The Bachelor. I'll call her Jane.
Every morning, the directors would give the girls a pill to "protect them from herpes." However, Jane has had experience with that particular type of pill and doubted that's what they were being given. So she stashed one and brought it back to her local doctors office to find out what it is.
Turns out they give the girls estrogen pills every morning, which explains why they're all so ridiculously emotional.
Edit: Thank you to /u/mother_rucker for catching my mistake
Sounds like bullshit. I can't believe girls would actually believe they could take a pill to prevent herpes. And I really don't believe that the show was feeding them estrogen, and it certainly wouldn't be a legal contract if it had illegal terms in it.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:04:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't believe girls would actually believe they could take a pill to prevent herpes.
Watching that show, I'm pretty sure some of them still believe in the Tooth Fairy.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:07:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure this is the medicine she was talking about.
When I was in high school one of my buddies cousins was on "The Bachelor" and went really far to the family meet episodes. It ended up being more awkward than the edits showed because he family was very religious and super grilled which ever bachelor it was about his spirituality and were very disapproving of him.
Also, Juan Pablo went to my college. I've met him and he is actually a really chill and unassuming person who likes to fly under the radar. I'll likely see him at homecoming this year
There's a show here in Canada called 'party mamas' and it's pretty much just overbearing moms throwing overly extravagant parties for their kids (basically my super sweet 16) - anyway I knew a mom and daughter who were featured on it quite well, some of the sweetest people I'd met and relatively humble about the money they have but the show made the daughter look like a total spoiled brat and the mom look like a tyrant for her grad party (I think), I mean I'm sure genuine outburst happened but from knowing and interacting with them on a daily basis it very much came off staged, or at least to the point where the producers put them in enough situations to get the reaction they wanted.
Just watched season 2 the last few weeks and previously saw season 1. Would love to hear more about your experience, regardless of season. I'm pretty convinced they shot all of season 2 in like 2 weeks and made it seem much longer.
C0dyL88 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 04:28:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I live in Waco and my company is contracted by magnolia homes. They have a show on HGTV called fixer upper. They are probably some of the fakest most inconsiderate people I've ever run across. One of my best friends moms was on the show. They fixed her house just enough to show it. Didn't finish the plumbing,electrical,floors,kitchen or paint. Made their show and moved on. Friends mom sued and won 110k judgement all went to finishing her house.
I'm on a job with them and they only show up for what needed for television. The minimal amount possible. And their business in downtown Waco is extremely over priced but people heard in there like cattle to the slaughter. Makes me so mad. Always wanted to vent about these people. Thanks for listening lol
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Really?! I'm so disappointed to hear that. I love that show and thought they were relatively genuine. Your poor friends mum!
fleaona ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:27:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just finished two seasons on Netflix. I'm sad, but not surprised. The husband seems like an ass
C0dyL88 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:40:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea we were doing a house one time and I didn't see them but once. He was working on a window and came in to film a segment for the episode. He grabbed an already cut and measured board and put it on the window some dude already finished. But in the show it looks like he's been there the whole time working on it.
fleaona ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:19:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's always doing stupid stuff on the show. If that's what they leave in, I can only imagine how obnoxious he is in real life.
lobido ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:44:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Darn it, I liked Chip and Jo. But I thought they were real.
Shoot, that's sad to hear. Not that it's fake, but the inconsideration to the point of lawsuits. Thanks for the input, though.
HIL_H ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 19:41:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was the defendant on a Judge Judy episode in high school. Long story short, a valet messed up my car by taking a dip in the road hard. The valet owner got in a scuffle with my friend's family and sued me in proxy for physical assault/damage to his belongings/car (all made up!!!) and so I counter-sued for damages to my car.
The case was real and the payout. The judge saw through his BS very quickly. However the money came from the show's pocket and not the plaintiff. Whoever loses actually still gets paid to be on the show so it sucks in that sense it's not "true" justice.
this is actually super interesting to find out that a judge show is real. i was truly convinced they were all extremely fake
HIL_H ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:23:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same thought here before it happened! Forgot to mention the way they get cases is to have staff go through local scheduled small claims court cases and find the interesting ones, then contact both parties. LA county has plenty idiots and wild claims going on to keep all those judge shows busy.
Bbzk001 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:26:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. It works because both parties legally agree to let Judy arbitrate for them.
Years ago I received a phone call from a Judge Judy casting person. I had filed a small claims court against an ex and they asked if I wanted to be on the show and said JJ's success rate was pretty high, I would have received the amount of the claim plus had airfare paid for. I declined because I did not want to be on t.v.
Nope. I never followed through with my small claims - tried several times to serve the papers but that was unsuccessful. I was stuck footing the $750 rental car bill - for a car he wasn't supposed to use my card for. Tough lesson learned and so glad I never had a relationship with him after.
A guy I went to high school with was on MTV's Virgin Territory. He was definitely not a virgin going into the show.
[deleted] ยท 163 points ยท Posted at 17:00:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I was just security, but I worked for MTV summer of 2002. You'd be amazed at how many people would come up to us around 3 every day asking when TRL was going to start filming.
Jokes on them, they filmed 5 episodes in a day and moved the crowd around so it didn't look like the same people the whole time.
Edit: I should have clarified. This was the summer programming for them. Not in Midtown Manhattan. Seaside Heights NJ.
This is so not true... I was in the TRL audience twice, and we had to get to the studio maybe an hour or an hour and a half before, and they spent a lot of that time placing us in seats and going over rules. Nothing else was being filmed, though. They did move us around a ton during commercial breaks (I think 3 times an episode?). Plus, maybe 30 minutes after the show, we saw the hosts exit the building. This was in 2006, so maybe they changed it from how things were run in 2002, but it was definitely a live show.
Im assuming youre joking but if not or if there are people dumb enough to not see the joke I'm calling major bullshit on this. One, I've been part of the crowd on TRL. Definitely only one episode and also it's LIVE. You can't fake live TV so that's why I am assuming you're joking.
Hi. I work on a live tv show. Half of it is pre recorded. Some of it was from an hour ago, some from 2 days ago. not a lot of people want to wake up at 4:00 AM to be on TV
I'm not talking about whatever show you worked for. I am talking about TRL. It was live every day with an audience and studio that could easily be seen from Time Square because it was surrounded by clear windows on the 2nd floor of the building. It would be impossible to fake being live on that set. And the show wasnt at some ungoldy hour in the morning, it was at 4 pm eastern time. Also, it was a very easy show to run since 70% if the show was playing the top 10 music videos. The person I was responding to replied to my comment saying it wasn't from this set but from when they were doing some summer beach series.
This isn't true. As someone who lived in midtown NYC during TRL's peak, there were definitely live crowds indoors and outdoors during that time.
akesh45 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:20:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Carson fucking daly must have loved that schedule.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:44:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Remembering how 'over it' he seemed on that show, I'll bet he was just trying to get through until he got home to Tara Reid, who he was dating at the time.
My 2003 high school graduation gift from my parents was a trip to NYC, first thing I did was go to Times Square to see TRL and there was nothing there. It was a slap in the face.
How did you feel about your edit? Was the take down at the end scripted? Were the cookies home-made or store bought? Were the booze and condoms you "brought" props?
American pickers is real. Only deviation from the show is that they roll up in 3 vans instead of the 1 they show (for camera crew and extra space).
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:59:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read something about this show and used to watch it all the time. From what I read, the two guys don't actually drive to locations. They fly there then get in the van that's already there. Mike Wolf apparently is a total asshat and Danielle is never in their shops. My ex rode his motorcycle up there once and he said the place is very small and Danielle was nowhere around.
37214 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:43:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mike lives in Nashville, not the best reputation here. They have a shop here that mostly sells t-shirts
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:27:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The shop in Nashville on television looks like it's full of vintage items. The other shop does too but my husband said it's mostly full of T-shirts as well.
37214 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:43:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It has stuff, yes. Little if anything for sale other than shirts, though. Sometimes they have live music in it, definitely a tourist spot for them. Not saying it's bad, just not an antique store.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:56:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right. My ex said he didn't see anything in there worth buying and he loves that kind of thing.
I mean, that kind of makes sense. It's probably cheaper to fly and if Mike has such a bad back, driving 3000 miles would be super bad for it. I've heard good things from people about them when they were in Upstate NY
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 23:59:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:34:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I loved you on the show! Hope things are okay now, re: needing to leave the show.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:51:10 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:50:21 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Though complete honesty - right now I'm in a mental hospital due to acute treatment-resistant major depressive disorder (something unrelated to being on the show which I've suffered from all my life). So I honestly can't answer if things are okay for me now, for obvious reasons. :/
Wow. I really do hope things get better from here.
You kind of remind me of my english teacher i had except without a beard. Another thing from the article it said you used two brushes to brush you hair is that true. Also very nice delorean
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:44 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was a contestant on The Weakest Link (American version with the lady).
They told us beforehand that she picks on the ones she likes. She apparently loved me.
But, everything on that show is real. The questions and her quick responses. She was impressive.
Galoots ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:43:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I tried out for that show back in 2001 at a local casting call. I made it through the written test, the on- camera mock game, and the quick video interview. The tapes were then sent to the producers who made the decision on who to cast.
I was called a couple of weeks later, and told I had made it on to the show, and they would be in touch with transportation and hotel info. I was to be made available the 2nd and 3rd week of September. Fuck.
I was told they weren't looking for the brainiest exclusively, it was more like casting Gilligan's Island. They wanted Professors, but they also wanted Skippers - really good in one area, Gingers - eye candy, and Gilligans - "how the hell did this guy get on a gameshow?" I felt good about the quiz answers and I know I got everything in the mock game. I'm definitely not eye candy, I'm just hoping they didn't see me as a Gilligan.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's fake. I think half the people on it aren't even Amish, and the whole premise may have been entirely invented by a TV executive. I mean, I'm not 100% sure, but like 98% nothing about that show is genuine.
โTo ensure the safety of innocent Amish, select re-enactments of events must be used.โ Which therefore permits the showโs creators to use Knight Rider music and Unsolved Mysteries visual effects in every scene.
FoneTap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, back in 2001, I was working as a TV extra. While I was waiting in line to enter a studio to be a part of a studio audience, the show "Blind Date" was recruiting potential contestants from the pool of struggling actors. A lot of dating shows get sexy people from actors.
Lenos Jaywalking segment encouraged people to give dumb answers.
I was in an audience for a minor talk show and the "psychic" was just a production assistant. Anyone can present themself as a psychic in America. Interesting fact.
I always thought that about jaywalking. I mean state capitols I can understand(how many adults remember what they learned in 4-6th grade),but things that were on the news a day or two before/current events still in the papers/talked about on the internet? C'mon.
I don't really want to give the episode but a family member was featured and I was one of the intervention party. Family member was an alcoholic etc. My aunt set up the whole thing, sent in videos and stuff and the producers contacted her and flew in. Did all real interviews and filmed a family party. Nothing anybody said was scripted or forced. When being interviewed we were given questions but all the answers and stuff was legitimate. Our therapist lady was so nice. Then they payed for her rehab after we convinced her to go.
She's still sober 4 years later too so I don't regret doing it even though I didn't want to.
Yes. None of us or my family member was paid with a check though. The rehab facility they sent her to was incredibly nice and that was their "payment".
There's a show called Mystery Diners that's been on for 11 seasons now that I'm 100% certain is staged. Every episode they catch some employee in a very elaborate sting operation that has got to be fake.
[deleted] ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 18:18:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Taffer pisses me off. I get that ritzy places often cheap out on their booze/food and the amount you get, but if you're revamping a dive bar in Bumblescum Alabama dainty salads and two drink maximum establishments are not going to bring in/keep customers.
Seemed odd that Mystery Diners setup for a few days and always manage to catch employees in the act, sometimes elaborate schemes. After a few episodes, I stopped believing.
I read somewhere that it is indeed fake, and the owners bid on trying to get on the show though since it always spikes up business for a few weeks. Seems like an interesting marketing strategy.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like to think they're actual things happening over a series of longer than a few days, then reenacted by over dramatized actors. It makes me feel better.
And then when the staff member goes into the surveillance room, they go straight in denial and start shouting and accusing and swearing at the store owner about it. The way they do that seems so strange, like it's set up.
Absolutely. I don't think you have to work on that show to figure that out. I cringe every time the "offending employees" are brought in and get that classic shocked look on their face. It's almost fun to guess how they'll deliver this "What's going on?/What is this?" line.
The one they did near me was all the actual bartenders. They definitely played up the drama a bit and staged a freak out from one of the owners, but for the most part it's real. Just real superficial. The thing I wrote on the wall near the urinal 10 years ago is still there. The remodel was just what customers see when they walk in the bar. Also the owners changed the name of the bar back to the original name about 2 years later.
One of my favorite food truck chefs was one chefs that come in and help the kitchen staff. He said that he didn't have too much of a say in the kitchen part of it but John Taffer was exactly like he's portrayed on the show. He said it was a good experience and would definitly do it again.
Explain this then. This is a favorite bar of mine, and is extremely popular, crowded, and clean. It has rave reviews. Doesn't exactly seem like a good casting decision, if in fact the show is legit...
The shows real. Been to a couple places that have been rescued. They weren't necessarily terrible bars but the ones I went to needed some remodels and updating. Part of the show is scripted, but the rescues are real.
I wouldn't describe the bars I went to as highly successful at all. They did have real problems that were addressed. The remodels, menu updates and name changes were real. In my experience it was a real rescue.
gsr142 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:30:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
First season was decent and pretty believable. After that it got bad really fast. Hiring obvious actors for the owner to fire and pushing Smirnoff as a premium vodka killed that show for me.
I was briefly in a Bar Rescue episode at a place several of my friends worked. The before stuff was filmed on night that the restaurant was supposed to be closed. Taffer was such a jerk on and off camera. The whole experience was awful for everyone involved.
One of my favorite LA bars (friends down there are regulars) was on that show. While it was heavily scripted, their bar did get a face lift. Its awesome now.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They have a habit of picking bars that aren't actually struggling to begin with. They even tried to do their show at Hopleaf, one of my favorite bars here in Chicago. This bar is always packed to the brim, and has amazing reviews for its food and drink. It's also known as one of the top craft beer bars in Chicago.
Lokifin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate the main guy on that show. I can't stand being around people who always look and sound like they're yelling on a WWF match.
I had the same, local bar was in an episode (Ramona, CA, Mollys > Way point saloon). I can say the opposite, I was friends with the staff and everything going on was pretty real. I can't say the shooting but we went to the stress test and grand reopening. Was pretty cool to see. Most of it felt very real and unscripted. There was a few things like on Grand opening night they got like 5 shots of John walking out of the finished bar. Other then that it was pretty real.
Not really surprised by that one at all. I'm almost certain I saw the same actress/waitress in 2 different episodes. It was a while ago so idk which episodes but she was Latino and got fired from one place
Been to a couple Bar Rescue bars and the show is real. Parts are scripted, but the remodels, name changes, and menu updates are real. The bars on the show sometimes aren't necessarily terrible bars, but the places I went did need remodels and updates. Real show though.
VROF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love that show. This is disappointing. I thought at least the staff was real
I was on this show as a recon patron, my friend who worked on it told me to come that night. the bartenders were the real ones and they tried to create drama but it wasn't scripted-scripted
I know they invented everything about the two bars in Youngstown, OH. The owners of those places trash the Hell out of that show. The way they tell it, they were badgered into being on it and agreed because it would be free publicity. But then they were given roles to play, scripted dialogue, and had to act like they were idiots.
[deleted] ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 17:37:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Throwaway because I'm probably not allowed to talk about this, but I was on American Ninja Warrior. I did not get shown, but I can tell you that nothing was rigged.
tc3590 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:06:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Since they didn't show you on tv, and you said nothing was fake, I'm sure they wouldn't care if you told people what you know.
if he signed an NDA it really doesn't matter what he said
tc3590 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea I really I have no idea. I think I was just trying to sound smart probobly. Who fucking knows.
37214 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:39:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How far did you make it?
123flip ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:03:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My wife and I are professional house flippers and we did a "sizzle reel" for HGTV, produced by a production company we were signed with. Suffice it to say, about 95% of the production was scripted, with the exception of the fact that we actually owned the houses that were featured. We didn't like the story-lines that the production company scripted (they made us look bad), so we only agreed to do the reel if we could have creative input. Ultimately, we decided that it wasn't worth having our reputation destroyed just to do a TV show (the contract essentially says that they can make us look bad and we have no recourse) and we broke our contract with the production company.
Long story short -- almost everything about the reel we did was scripted, and the goal was to create as much drama as possible, even where absolutely none existed.
My friend was on the xfactor where they made up a story about how she is doing it for her dad, truth was her dad was dead but she didn't really know him. Left her mom when she was .
Well damn, was she successful in the show? Like did she get through to the later rounds?
9c9bs ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:04:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't know if I'm too late, but a girl from my high school was on MTV Made. She was a tomboy that they were making into a prom queen. They got the dentist to take her braces off for the show to complete the makeover and then put them back on when they wrapped shooting.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:35:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That would SUCK. One of the best moments of my adolescence was the day my braces were finally removed.
Maybe enough cash would dull the pain of having them put right back on again, but ugh.
My truck will be on cops, the local night were having break at the gas station. I knew them both said hi. Chatted and the crew was there eating the pizza lol
A friend of mine was in a court room show. It was completely staged. It wasn't Judge Judy but something similar. Another friend of my was approached by producers of Cheaters, who asked if he wanted to be on the show. When he told them he was single they said it didn't matter, they would cast his "girlfriend" later
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:03:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to watch Cheaters all the time and thought it was real.
I work with a guy who was a photog for Cheaters when he worked in Dallas. That show just makes me laugh with how far up their own ass they get trying to play it super-serious.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:30:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Two of my daughters were in a game show called Kidstreet when they were in elementary school (about 30 years ago) and even though they had the highest score somehow the dweebs posting the scores screwed up and had them come in second. It was never corrected and was aired that way. The show had an annoying host with a plastic personality.
Oh man, I used to watch that show every day! I wanted to be on it so badly but I was an only child until I was 11. :(
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:47:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't been on a reality show, but when The Bachelor Canada was looking for ladies I was sent the call... from my agent. Looking for actors and models, certain 'looks', certain socioeconomic/ethnic backgrounds, length of engagement if cast, etc. Really took the wind out of the 'regular girls looking for love' sails.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:45:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My boss is going on "buying alaska." He currently owns a home which will be featured. He is not looking to purchase a new home. He was given a scrip. They basically payed him by giving him free tickets to all the tourist attractions him and his family can visit in 2 days. He has lived here, Juneau Alaska, for two years. Basically nothing on that show is real.
Also the alaska bush people shop at costco and live in the hotel in Hoonah, Alaska. We see them in town all the time and there boat is frequently parked at Auke harbor, here in Juneau. Whole show is basically fake.
MZM204 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:03:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That Alaska Bush show is an absolute joke anyway. I've caught a few minutes on TV here and there and those morons get themselves into idiotic situations and make mistakes that a rookie boy scout could easily avoid. I'm assuming it's just for TV drama, because if they're that stupid and really had to survive out there they'd die.
Wasn't on a reality tv show, but I was in a commercial when I was somewhere between 10 and 13 years old. It was a local politician (or something) cooking burgers on the grill, talking to the camera blah, blah, blah. At the end, the group of kids around him had to say "Right Rog!" (short for Roger). Yeah, the burgers weren't real. There was no fire. It took a good 3 hours. I was starving. None of the kids were really happy to be there, or happy to be teased by fake burgers. We didn't really understand what we were agreeing with, etc. Fuckin' Roger.
This is the reason I hate seeing kids in commercials and such. You're using those children. They don't know what they're doing. All they know is "I GET TO BE ON TV, YAY!" It's a sleazy tactic, and based on my own experience.. no compensation (I just wanted a fuckin burger, man!). However, this was a very long time ago so maybe things have changed.
At the time, I remember we took a short bus trip to be at the person's home for the filming.. and I was too young to care what city/township we were in. Based on a quick google search, there is no "Danville" in my state, so I don't think that was it.
4zeezer ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:03:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What? You didn't get any form of compensation? As far as I'm aware actors get paid no matter their age (my brother certainly did when he acted). So unless it was some volunteer work your parents roped you into something seems skeevy.
It was too long ago for me to remember the details (we're talking in terms of decades here), but I know I wasn't compensated.. and I'm certain my parents weren't compensated as they didn't know it happened until my brother and I told them later that day. It would probably be justified legal as "volunteering" .. but that's just CYA.
We were in summer camp (day to day, not "drop 'em off and pick 'em up in a month"). Parents likely signed a waiver at the start saying we'd be taking trips (so no permission slip was needed). The counselors loaded us into the bus, said we were going to shoot a commercial.
Also, just to note...
local politician
lets not pretend that people in that profession are the peak of moral and ethical treatment of others.
Edit: Just called up my brother and he confirms that we weren't compensated, and the parents didn't know about it.
Tons of people, including kids, are used at low or no pay if they're nonunion, and the shoot is nonunion. Happens all the time. Even union kids are overused, because parents are bribed on set. It can be a dirty business, if the parent is not right there watching carefully. Otherwise, it can be tons of fun and lead to great, unique experiences. (my kids did it for years as their after-school hobby.)
How would parents not know if there kid is in a commercial, surely they had to sign a form...I guess I'm just picturing parents like this as I could never imagine whoring out my kids for some commercial cash.
Damn that's crazy but I was mostly talking about children in commercials in general. I'll tell ya what though, I wouldn't let an image of my kid go on tv if I wasn't warned beforehand. Make them shoot that whole damn thing again.
I worked on a popular, long-running, reality dance competition series.
It was refreshingly non-rigged.
The producers certainly finessed things to get certain couples to dance together, or highlight drama where it occurred. But they couldn't edit around whether or not someone could really dance and the winners were ultimately determined by viewer vote.
nhnolan ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 17:42:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So, was this a show where contestants thought they could dance?
Not sure if we worked on the same show, but the one in which I worked on, I completely agree. However, it was obvious the producers favored certain talent to win.
Went to go see the reveal of a new house for Extreme Makeoever Home Edition. They did several takes of the crowd cheering and the "move that bus!" scene.
QSector ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:02:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was heavily involved in an episode of EMHE. So much bullshit behind the scenes. They spent months building and finishing the actual house. So much is staged to make it look complete. The builders cover so much of the expenses that many of the ones who did the show filed for bankruptcy. Most of the production crew are assholes. I didn't have any issues with the talent, in fact I thought Ty was pretty nice to everyone, especially all the volunteers. The volunteers are legit and work their asses off.
The real shitty thing I learned about that show is the vast majority of the people that receive those homes either have to resell them because they can't pay for the insane property taxes or don't have the money for the upkeep. Seeing how most of the people in that show were usually poverty stricken due to having sick children/not being able to work it's not really that much of a surprise. It's still pretty shitty though.
A family in a town 15 minutes from mine had to sell their house because they couldn't afford. They did all they could to cut costs but in the end it was't enough. It's a law office now since the town is right next to the hood and nobody wants to live there
Yep. And a lot of people think "Oh, they can sell those houses and get a bunch of money!", but it's not very easy to sell a luxurious house in a low income area. Anyone who can afford to buy and maintain that kind of home will want to live someplace nicer, after all, so the houses don't even sell for that much.
True, thereโs no script, but we have writers who craft plot lines, twisting and tweaking footage to create conflict and shape a story. Oh, and we redo things all the time. On Biggest Loser, the contestants have to walk up to the scale about five times so the producer can capture all the angles on camera.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:18:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On Biggest Loser, the contestants have to walk up to the scale about five times so the producer can capture all the angles on camera.
I feel a little badly for them. The women are in sport bras, and the men are bare chested.
I don't know if you would be in a position to know, but was the "Water Loading" controversy ever real?
I stopped watching "The Biggest Loser" because of the stupid junior-high drama, and also because the contestants were encouraged to lose a ridiculous (and mostly unsustainable) amount of weight in such a short amount of time. It's no wonder most of the contestants gain it all back. What a travesty of a show.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:03:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like to see people find out things are worth less than they were expecting, especially when you can tell they scooped it up from an elderly family member or neighbor with intent of profiting.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:23:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was paid $100 to be in the "audience". After the contestants were done they had me and everyone else that was there to get paid cheer and clap and edited into several different episodes. It was fun.
The best reality show series the is Pioneer House, Frontier House, etc., series by public television. Those were awesome. I met one of the participants from Frontier House and he said it was legit.
There was stuff online about one of them and it said that it wasn't legit. Frontier i think? The one where two families fought with each other and both the mums were awful? One family was really rich and the other couple ended up divorcing and the dad moved to the filming spot? There was a third family too, started with a man and his dad and then he got married and his wife moved in.
I don't think much of it is faked though. I loved those shows.
That was Frontier House, I think. It was awesome. The rich family had those spoiled-ass children who hated the fronteir. But eventually they grew fond of it and were crying when it was time to go. And one of the older guys was so in love with the lifestyle that he was seriously talking about living out their permanently. It's like he had gone mad, as he was saying that eventually he would make amends with the rich folk, as if they would live there too.
I think he probably wasn't right for tv, he did seem a bit odd, even said he hated his stepkids.
I remember the rich girls wandering around in the petticoats, complaining but yeah by the end they were saying their superficial lives were boring and empty
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:01:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is anyone from Reddit has been on Impractical jokers or Nathan for you? (They are the only reality shows that I like)
I was on a local TV show when I was younger where you get to run around the toy store and keep what you can bag in 30 seconds.
It was legit. I got the 30 seconds (no do overs, only 1 take) and made a beeline for the electronics. A PS2, Gameboy Advance and tons of games later, I was a happy 8 year old.
I remember when I was a kid that one of the big things was being a winner of a particular game show, and that meant you could run through a grocery store and keep whatever you could pile into carts within a certain amount of time. Adult me would love that. I would go nutty in the meat department, go through the aisles with perishable stuff, see what I could get in health/beauty, and (if there was time) go through frozen food. I'm not against fresh produce at all, but it would go rotten before I could get through it all (meat is easier to freeze).
[deleted] ยท 88 points ยท Posted at 15:44:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
A friend of mine auditioned for America's Got Talent and he seemed pretty convinced that it was rigged. The auditions with the celebrity judges are not the real auditions. The 'real' auditions are done before that, where producers decide who will actually get to appear before the judges.
Edit: I'm not necessarily saying that I think it's rigged, just that he felt that way. He didn't get very far, so I think he may have had a chip on his shoulder about the whole thing.
American idol
Did the same thing. There were a couple rounds of auditions before you got to sing in front of the celebrity judges. That way they could put through anyone who would be entertaining (either good or bad). I don't think that means anything is fake, there is no way they could have every single person audition in front of the judges one at a time.
I had the same experience with my Canadian Idol audition:
First group audition in front of producers, and if you make it through that, individual audition/camera test in front of producers. If you make it through that one, then you get to be in front of TV judges a day or two later.
I made it to the TV judges, but got nervous and did not make it on TV. My goal was to be Canada's version of William Hung, and I managed to convey my intentions to the producers; there was a lot of subtle communication that boiled down to "Put me on TV because I have the potential to be funny!" Because of my nerves, I wasn't hilariously bad, I was just bad, and that's not good TV.
I stopped watching American Idol because it was clear to me that many of the "bad" singers they let through had either autism or some sort of mental disability. I do not know how the producers of these shows sleep at night. They're mean people.
camelz4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:26 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember I used to watch that show until one day my mom was watching it with me and Simon made his "bush baby" comment about a contestant with big eyes. She was horrified and forbid me from watching it after that.
This. If everyone went right to the judges they would be there for hours and hours. This way they can screen out the mediocre singers, and the slightly bad ones, while sending through the great ones and some hilariously bad ones
More like weeding out the boring acts that were just okay; they sent plenty of acts through that were entertainingly bad, and they rejected acts that were good, but not good enough to go to Vegas and not interesting enough to be on TV.
To be fair, there ate most certainly crappy acts that perform before the judges. The producers elect based on entertainment value as well, not just how good the act is.
No offensive, but that should be obvious. The celebs don't want to spend all day going thru every act in the tristate area. Just the best and worst. American Idol did the same.
Fawkz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah like the celebrity judges are there 12 hours a day for a week listening to a bunch of peasants non-stop? Yeah right, this isn't even deception cause it's so painfully obvious
Someone I worked with was on American's Got Talent and he wasn't even trying to audition. They found him on YouTube and paid to fly him out and put him up so he could be on the show. He knew from the beginning he wasn't going to make it to the next round, they just wanted the "shock factor" for good TV.
Nick730 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:17:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That goes for literally every talent competition. It's not rigging anything, it would be impossible for the judges of those shows to see EVERY applicant.
My band was courted for several seasons and there was never any tryout. There's a YouTube video of our "audition" however. We decided against I because of the wording in the contract. They would own image and audio rights "for all time and throughout space". Decided we were doing better on our own. Bad business.
thats no secret and its smart, the actual judges dont have time to sit infornt of 10k really shit people, they pick good people, and a few crazies for entertainment, its actually kinda sick
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:11:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's just got the first round. After that you are in front of the team judges, and the phone in voting is run by an independent company.
I have a friend who was on King of the Nerds. He said that (in his season at least) everyone was super friendly with each other in real life. Whenever the show needed "drama" it was all an act.
Searched the whole thread for a KotN post. Glad it's not something super terrible. Funny thing is, I think the drama of season 3 made a lot of people lose interest. Was getting sick of dealing with it on the sub that's for sure.
I only watched a few episodes to support my friend (reality TV isn't my thing). But every now and then he still meets up with people from the show informally at cons or Renaissance fests. From what I get, everyone seems to have enjoyed their time on the show.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which season? I watch KOTN every year when it comes on.
So I actually tried out for this season of master chef. I obviously didn't make the show but I made it to California where they do constant interviews and psychological evaluations. And not to mention your stuck at the hotel all day with almost nothing to do.
But talking to the producers they look for the best story and they look for people to fill their character rolls. While I was watching the beginning of the show where they cook for Ramsey I was always curious if they would pick the cook who cooked the best dish or the best story. And they honestly picked the best story over the better home cook more often than not.
It really pissed me off because the friends you made on the show you know should have moved on but instead got kicked because of a young girl who has a great story. Good for her don't get me wrong, but I can't watch that show anymore.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:20:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man, I love Masterchef Australia they have such great judges and no drama/beef(the fighting kind) at all.
jockc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:32:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Masterchef New Zealand same thing. So much better to watch, the contestants get along and like each other. They are much better sports when they win and lose. US and Canada Masterchef is all about fake competition / drama bullshit.
The contestants are major bros to each other. Very much all in the same boat and pitted against challenges instead of their rivals.
The results would be weighed by the producers of course. You can tell they're picking people for more reasons than cooking ability, tear jerking and so on, but at least there's no snarky drama.
Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, but since you asked here is what they do.
You talk to this psychologist and the first time you see him or her they just make sure that mentally you are stable and don't have any mental disorders that you don't know of. They don't want you to hurt any of the judges.
Then they will bring you back again and ask you all of these questions and scenarios. And they even put you in front of a "crowd" with cameras and lights shining on you asking you questions. It was like a little mock cooking competition. So that way you could feel how 60 minutes feel (and that time just flies). Also just to make sure you can handle the pressure of being on TV and a competition at the same time. They don't want you cussing ever other word because you have a character roll to fulfill.
It's definitely an experience I'll never forget, but as far as trying out for TV shows again, I would pass. It's too much of a hassle, and not to mention I needed to take a lot of time off of work and almost lost my job due to this show. If you have any more questions I'd love to answer them! Hopefully I'll answer them sooner rather than a week later lol
I think in masterchef they pick ones that can sell cookbooks. The last winners have been a Mexican food chef, dessert chef, Italian food chef, Asian food chef and so on.... They don't want to sell the same cookbooks, so the winners food specialty is always different from previous winner. This year will probably be a cajun chef, bbq chef, or a Cuban chef.
I read a blog of somebody who ate at Hells Kitchen and they were disappointed at how normal it was. You sign a waiver at the beginning saying your meal, wine and bread are paid for, but you have to agree to be filmed and that you're not guaranteed to get a meal.
They said aside from the fact that they drank more wine than they should have, and maybe seeing Ramsay yell like twice, it felt like a completely normal restaurant.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:43:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love Gordon Ramsay but I don't like Masterchef.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When Ramsay is actually doing stuff related to cooking, rather than hosting reality competition shows, he's pretty awesome.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:28:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think he's a pretty cool guy and I bet he's an awesome chef.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:51:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen only excerpts of The F Word but it's pretty solid.
TV work like his videos on scrambled eggs, pork roast, pork belly, etc, are really good. He's awesome when playing the role of a down-to-earth chef; what I don't like is when he sells himself out for bogus TV drama instead because it generates more ratings...
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:52:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've watched The F Word too but I don't like that one either. I got spoiled watching Kitchen Nightmares. He's really a down to earth guy from the interview I watched. He loves what he does and he loves his family. He said he is still very much in love with his wife. He came from nothing and made something of himself. Have to admire that.
joalr0 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:01:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just posted this in another area of this comment section, but I had to laugh the other day when the competition had them making cupcakes I believe, and magically as soon as they came out of the oven they were able to be iced.
When in reality, they'd need to be cooled before the icing was applied to keep them from melting. No off-hand mention of a blast freezer or anything, just out of the oven and then the icing.
I wouldn't be surprised if the American version of Hell's Kitchen was fake. Just because there is a HUGE difference between the American one and the UK one. The UK one is a little more calmer and while Ramsay has raised his voice a couple of times it's not NEARLY as dramatic as the American one where the owners blow up, walk out or have Ramsay doing his "GET OUT!" Bit.
I think you're confusing two of GR's shows. Hell's Kitchen is a cooking competition, Kitchen Nightmares is the one where he confronts the owners of a poorly run establishment
You're absolutely right. THat's what I get for responding to a comment when I'm half asleep. Thanks for the correction.
Quilled ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hell's Kitchen is pretty rigged, but there is spontaneous stuff too. The guests are getting smashed, due to the open bar, because the chefs spend so much time making food. The food the guests receive is usually cold, but the guests doesn't care cause they're drunk and have waited for 3-4 hours.
Seriously, Do people like Rachel and Quinn really exist? Madison too, the PA on the rise.
C_D_M ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:13:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually love UnReal cause I work in reality tv. The overall idea of it is pretty spot on. There are people like Rachel and Quinn but not nearly as explosive or dramatic.
Crew banging other crew members, way too real....
The PA stuff with Madison doesn't happen, PA's are looked down on to a point of non-existence
My daughter's classmate is on the upcoming season of My Big Fat American Gypsy Wedding. She's the girl in the candy dress if you've seen the previews.
It is 100% staged.
She is not Romanichal.
Her mother tried to force the school to cancel Homecoming because it conflicted with the "sweet sixteen" party the producers set up for her. The party was set up to make it seem like her mom was trying to arrange a marriage for her. They flew in boys who the producers had hired to pose as suitors for her. She made a big stink when the majority of students at the school refused to attend.
The show has already aired in Britain, and she's gotten completely called out on social media for how fake it was.
So, yes, as we already knew from so many other TLC gems, this one's fake, too.
I know an entire family that has been on the show. They've had 3 separate episodes I believe (I've only seen 2). Everything is 100% fake on the show. One episode a couple is getting married. The mom on the guys side and the mom on the girls side are in reality a mother and daughter lol. The things they were fighting about in another episode weren't even actual traditions. Show is 1000% fake and they only do it for the money.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard that many of the people on the Big Fat American Gypsy shows are being told they "might be" romany/romanichal/Irish Traveller in ancestry. Was this ever told to your friend?
Not sure - this was my daughter's classmate, and it sounds like the mom was the one who approached the producers with the intent of getting her daughter some screen time. It wouldn't shock me, to be honest!
*Semi-Rigged: in the case of Pawn Stars, the items are real, the customers selling/pawning items are even real, but the shop isn't. While, yes, there really is a Gold and Silver pawn shop in Vegas, and yes, the external shots are real, the internal shots are a set and the sale is a reenactment of the real sale which has already happened or not happened. The items have been vetted and researched already which is why Rick often knows so much random stuff just off the top of his head, and sometimes they actually seek the items out because in all honesty if they filmed the shop all day, every day, waiting for something cool to come in, the overhead would be insane. It's also rumored that the conflicts between the cast members are scripted.
In the case of Undercover Boss and What Would You Do?, it's all real but they will intentionally seek out situations that will get the most excitement. They'll select people via surveys and polls for WWYD to get people who haven't seen the show or haven't seen much of it, and in UB they'll pick locations that are high volume or tasks that are really stressful and tough and not indicative of what an actual newbie would be doing. Like the Boston Market episode, they selected a location with an employee that is really negative about and toward the customers, one hotel chain they had the CEO cleaning a pool in 110ยฐF heat, and would say things to him off camera to irritate him. So while the scenarios are real and unscripted, the producers are still manipulating the situations for ratings.
I hope that helped shed some light on how some reality shows are done, u/chet11 ... I can't say what realty show I've been on because I'm under an iron clad NDA, but it's definitely not one I mentioned and it is very real. I had no idea how easy it is to get on a reality show. Most of them are done by a simple interview and some head shots at a talent agency after applying on the website for the show. I actually ended up being cast on a show from an interview for Whodunnit? season 2 (which I didn't get) but was offered another show by the network after they saw my interview video. There's really nothing great about being on a show though... I may not be able to talk about the show, but I can say this: the pay isn't great, you have zero privacy, and depending on the type of show you have to always be mindful of everything you do. Pick your ass once because of a wedgie when you don't see any cameras? Oooohhhhhh no... There's cameras. That you don't see them is the whole point. I once held a fart for 7 hours until I could get to the bathroom to crack one off because that's the only place without cameras.
๐๏ธ chet11 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:16:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me too! That's why I did a bit of research into both.
As far as the Colony, it is a truly "what you see is what you get" kind of show. It's brutal, grueling and they literally have medical staff on standby less than a block away in case of injury, heat exhaustion, collapse from starvation or dehydration, allergic reaction from insect bites/stings/etc and when the 'colonists' go out scavenging and whatnot, there's a medic that accompanies the camera crew. All this, even after a lengthy set of waivers about safety so it's more than the producers actually give a shit than a fear of lawsuit.
I suppose in the case of whodunnit, I should have put that in the semi-rigged category because it's believed that the contestant that "dies" is in on it before the puzzle in which they die because there's often a lot of makeup work (the level of realism in some of the death makeup would take well over an hour for a team of Hollywood professionals) for each death.
Though none of the contestants have come out, the speculation is that it's done with no makeup at all initially and the other contestants are reacting to one of their own just laying there unmoving and then they do the makeup and edit in the gruesome "death" afterwards (with the exception of the contestant that is on fire... That's obviously a stunt person)
They were incredibly tight lipped at the agency when I interviewed for the show, though it could really be that they don't know anything,
Also: here's a special treat I just found from 3 years ago: check out u/Anarchy_Amber ... In Season 2 of The Colony, towards the middle of the season they introduced Michel and Amber (massage therapy instructor and a logging foreperson respectively), well Amber just so happened to hear that people were curious about The Colony, so she made an account just to answer a few of the most commonly asked questions.
It turns out, even that is "semi-rigged" in that they tried to encourage the survivors to argue a bit.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:54:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've worked on Food Network reality shows. Competition is real. Drama is fake
zachlag ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:56:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not a reality TV show, but I still wanna get this off my chest.
Back when I was a kid, there was this segment of the kids' channel that involved a crew walking around asking kids questions about educational stuff. So one day after swimming, my bro and I bumped into those guys and they asked us if a spider had 8 or 12 legs, we both replied 8. I was told to say 12, as it would be more "entertaining" and also because I was the younger one (I was like 7).
Anyway, the segment aired, and a bunch of kids watched it in my tuition centre and thought I was dumb for saying 12. I remember sulking the whole day as my brother was trying to tell them it was scripted, but the kids were having none of it.
Former crew members working on The Apprentice had a lot of dirt on Donald Trump. Apparently he was a mysogynist, he talked about menstruation, he would fire good people and leave bad ones because he thought it made better TV and make the producers re-cut the show to cast the fired member in a bad light, and he had narcissism.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:43:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The shows House Hunters and House Hunters International on the HGTV channel feature people who are house hunting for their dream home. The show takes viewers along as the buyers browse different houses, debate the pros and cons of each home, and decide upon a home theyโd like to purchase. What the show doesnโt tell you is that itโs all staged. As former show participants have revealed, the majority of what House Hunters gives viewers is an illusion. As former show participant Bobi noted on the Hooked on Houses blog, to be accepted for the show, she (and her family) had to have already secured a home to purchase in order to be on the show. It isnโt hard to believe, seeing as you never see an owner on the show be turned down (only countered) on their offer for a home. While the show has a fun house buyer escapism aspect to it, the reality is less than entertaining.
mndtrp ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:06:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it makes sense. It can take quite a few months to go from looking at houses to finally getting the keys. Producers aren't going to sit in on that long of a haul.
I was on the set of Monday Night Raw back in 2013, and it looked real. Although O did have a sneaking suspicion that it was staged. Not a 100% on this one.
I was asked to help out with an episode of Shark Week that would eventually go on to be named the worst Shark Week show ever made. I love sharks and hoped that I could help filter the mega-killer message. Over three days of shooting, they would feed me lines to say on camera, so I would think about the connotations and rephrase them or simply refuse. They ended up having to CGI in sharks (we got skunked for one segment) and mixed my words around so that my words applied to something very different. I figured when I was getting into it that it would be dodgy, but that was a level of sheisty I was not prepared for!
Ignoring the titles, this year's programming was of better quality than years past, but the killer sharks theme had been overplayed since Jaws first came out.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went on a show (audience member) called Judge Rinder in the UK which is basically a British version of Judge Judy. Nothing is really rigged per say but they do move a few audience members around and position people e.g. tall people in the back, show a diverse audience etc
When they interview the participants after (we get to watch this on a screen) there are a lot of questions asked to get a lot of detail out of them. When I saw the show on TV, most answers were not "in order" from how they were asked. They were edited at different times to portray a slightly different atmosphere which I can understand since it's a reality show, but still...
It depends on the case really. When I went, I got there for about 3pm and was on my way home for about 5:30/6ish after doing 3 cases. One didn't make it to TV though, I don't think.
I was part of the "gunge game" on a New Zealand show called What Now? They give you clothes to wear so that you don't get your own all slimy when you play the game and they have showers available for afterwards. At one point I had to root around in a vat of slime blindfolded to find an egg and crack it on my head. When I found it, it felt like a ping-pong ball, so I didn't think it would really crack. It did, and I had slime and egg running through my hair. The expression on my face in the playback was priceless.
If they don't get a certain shot or if someone messes up a shot they'll re-film the audience later. One cameraman accidentally filmed the back of another one so they took us (the contestants) out of the audience and got footage of our friends pretending to cheer us on even though the game was already over.
I was on what now, when it filmed on takapuna beach. We did a team challenge and the losers got gunged but there wasnt enough kids on location they made us all get gunged. No shower, in our own clothes. Once we were gunged we weren't allowed inside the yacht club where they filmed inside stuff. Oh and I'm pretty sure the host hated kids.
I was on countdown a couple years ago. Rachel Riley does not work out the maths problems that quickly at all. On many occasions they have to let her work stuff out while they continue filming and then come back to her. It's all edited to make it look like she can work out the sums instantly.
My friend was on that shitty MTV dating show NEXT. Basically speed dating with one person choosing between five candidates.
Well, my friend had no illusions going in and instead of going with the girl the producers wanted to him to pick - wrapping the shoot early for everyone - he proceeded to tear into the Paris Hilton looking girl only to have the producers tell him "that was great, editing is going to have a ball with this. Alright let's get some more takes". He said that he learned shame that day.
So after telling her that her lipstick reminded him of shades one typically finds at the base of a penis, six takes later, the crew had all the angles they needed. She described him as a bag boy in the post interview. He informed the audience there was nothing wrong with their TVs, she was just that orange.
He said there was a creative consultant on set to come up with barbs for the contestants should they draw a blank but never went with what they suggested. So there's the most glaring fake aspect I suppose. Well, that, and, according to him, the editing room floor.
So the takeaway here is that reality dating shows are rigged to production costs (everyone wants to leave early), the FCC (censorship), and naivety of the process (it is not a dating show - it is a show).
It wasn't acting per se. There were video interviews for getting on the show but I was with him on campus where it took place, holding his backpack and shaking my head. I'm fairly certain they simply recruited from college campuses around LA County and whether or not theater majors filled the ranks or average students I can not comment.
I am a fan of Rupaul's Drag Race(THE darg queen reality show) where about 12 queens compete in challenges for a crown. Of course the storyline is there, every one has an edit(filler edit, villain edit, underdog edit, winner edit, midpack edit). They too eat cheesy potatoes and one contestant flipped out. They too lock the doors during filming and put tapes so they know the queen left the room. The hotel also would not hire gay staff because sometimes allegedly there's a queen who gave a producer blowjob and went to the top three. But that's just the surface.
Hubby and I are currently binging this show, love it! I'm not positive I totally understand everything you've said though. What do gay wait staff have to do with a queen blowing a producer?
I would suggest you to come over at the mainsub /r/rupaulsdragrace so we could kiki about stuff. There is a T (Truth) masterpost in the sidebar that tells almost everything that is not shown.
Someone further up the thread said he was approached to be on an episode. When he said he was single they told him they would cast his "girlfriend" later. So I'm guessing with about 97% assurance it's all fake and stupid bullshit.
I can only speak for where I live, but I assume it's the close to the same in most, if not all, other cities;
All the contestants are pre-selected by recruiters who interview people on the street. Granted, they have a certain type they're looking for. Under the guise of another show, recruiters get a sense of someone's intelligence. Anyone thought to be a good candidate will be forwarded to a producer, who will follow up by phone (still under the guise of another show) to confirm a few things. If chosen, a place to meet will be determined.
At said meeting place, the producer's car will have problems, and the producer will "call for a cab" in order to send the contestants to the "location" they think they'll be going to in order to be on this other show they've been believing is real this whole time. The cab is sitting around the corner waiting for the cue to pull up.
It's only once they get in the cab and the lights go off that they find out they're actually on cash cab.
I was on an American Singing show in which some people Idolized the winners. During the experience I went through multiple auditions for people that were most likely just low level random helpers, that had me sing for them, and then decided if I go through. No celebrity judges until the 4th audition. At that point you walk into the room knowing you either did/didn't make it, which makes running out of the room screaming kinda odd lol . Which is basically why no one shuts down from stage fright, and why there are no middle of the road singers. You are either Tv Material or Bat Shit Crazy. BTW Bat shit crazy are required to do the exact same thing as their initial audition with the same outfit, and they sign a different contract. The contract I signed said they owned everything marketable about me, that I could not tell anyone I made it through, and that i couldn't speak to any media sources unless it was cleared by fox. The following morning a major radio station in Boston already knew some how, and was announcing it on the radio and asking anyone who knew me to have me call in. Fox denied the request. The weirdest thing was immediately after the announcement, businesses started buying all variations of my name in website form, in an effort to capitalize should i have made it big. I didn't lol
Cupcake Wars here! Not as a contestant though (sort of a prop...long story, but I was on set or on camera for the entire taping). The bakers are fed lines by the producers ("Say you're worried about the frosting." "OH MY GOD BECKY...THE GANACHE! It isn't ready!") and the judges eat pre-made cupcakes. I think the order of elimination is pre set as well, since the people who were eliminated first were really bummed the whole taping and the winners were hyperactively smiling. The also do the "secret ingredient" segment repeatedly to get good reactions. Meh.
It all depends on the network and the production company. Sometimes the network demands that certain things be faked, other times the production company fakes things to save time and money. A lower budget show on a small network has a better chance of being fake than a big budget show on a major network. Nothing is faked on Survivor.
[deleted] ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 15:54:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This isn't necessarily fake but twisting the truth....the last winner of Survivor was listed as a bartender. But she's really a travel agent. She was a bartender once, a long time ago, for a little while. I guess they thought being a bartender was more interesting or sexy.
Survivor also has a full remote campus onsite. Medical center, food, shelter, ect. The contestants don't use it but I've heard stories where one team just really, really sucked at scavenging and they had to intervene because they weren't getting enough nutrients. They didn't serve steak and potatoes but to say they're all alone is a bit of an exaggeration.
Not sure if this is true but I heard that a lot of changes were enforced after season 2 when the one malnourished contestant fainted and fell into a fire pit.
This past season had 3 medical evacuations and some serious looking wounds/infections. Even with safety procedures in place, they don't mess around on Survivor.
No one has ever suggested they are 'alone', in fact the host is on every show, and the medical squads with helicopters are often on the show.
There are roughly 300 people on location for Survivor, and there are roughly 60 on site at the challenges. They are producers, film and audio crew, construction, sometimes a reporter, medical crew, usually a local government observer, etc.
The other people on location are video catalogers, transcriptionists, (they type in everything said on camera), cooks, drivers (some challenges are far away), food buyers, security, and so on.
GiftTag ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:23:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They for sure seem to have a much easier time, food-wise, in the more recent seasons. People don't drop weight like they used to, there are food rewards constantly, and when a crazy person pisses in the rice stash, it gets replaced. People used to freak out over fishing supplies, and now they rarely seem to get used (unless we don't see it). The elements and injuries still seem real as fuck but I no longer believe they're starving out there.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 15:55:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's also not the actual contestants being filmed for the aerial shots sometimes - its a team of helpers. So while the product of the show is a bit manipulated, the actual competition is not.
Compared to some of the other stuff in here, not at all.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 16:43:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They do the aerial shots with the Dream Team running the challenges so that they will only get the people doing the challenge in the shot, and not the hundreds of camera and production people that are surrounding the challenge when it is actually be run by the contestants.
Not "faked" - they do a full test run with staff, and this is where they film the close-ups of hands, feet etc and the wide helicopter shots. From this they can decide is some part is too hard or easy, and can modify the challenge if needed.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:17:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing is faked, but some things are edited out to make it look a certain way. Take the last season for example. During a challenge where contestants had to balance blocks on a see-saw like platform, host jeff comments on one contestant falling behind.(cindy? Idr, the female black body builder. Names are hard) the edit made it look like she won by going slow and never having her stack fall when others fell and had to start over. They made it look like she completed it without a fall. A hidden/behind the scene segment online revealed that while she did win, she did have to restart atone point when her tower fell
What always puzzled me about Survivor was how the men all quickly grow facial hair but not one of the women ever grow hair under their arms or on their legs.
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 15:38:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They don't hire actors - they recruit people (usually young good looking and yes, oftentimes they are aspiring actors/models) but these people play the game just as every other contestant does. Nothing is skewed in their favour. Just as many fans of the show, lawyers, teachers etc get cast. I'm sure many of the contestants ham up reactions to get more screentime. There have been recruits who have gone on to play really solid games. That's not the same level as faking drama to me. Real scenarios are certainly edited for dramatic effect, no doubt, but it is different that saying "Here's a bunch of actors on an island now act out these scenes".
Edit: Adding to this, "the edit" is a topic that come up extensively on r/survivor. It kind of delves into the fact that yes, it is a TV show meant to be entertaining and therefore context is changed and story line is added to make this happen. But on the whole, the experience of survivor is quite real.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're completely overestimating how much people are willing to act when they're hungry and stressed. Like, here's an interview from John Rocker, a football player (edit: baseball player. I'm dumb) who's done a few reality shows and tried going on Survivor:
You also said in an interview that Survivor is the worst thing youโve ever done, in the sense that itโs just incredibly tough in terms of the physical conditions and whatnot. How brutal was it? What was the worst part? Was there any part of you that was relieved to go home so early, to get out of that situation?
Definitely. I was happy to get voted out. I lost 19 pounds in 10 days. I never knew when I was going to eat again. It was miserable. I thought going into it that there would secretly be bottled water and some food given to us but that was not the case. It is very real and very miserable. Once I got voted off all I wanted to do was eat.
So, is that the end of Survivor for John Rocker? If Probst called you up today and asked you to come back for Season 31, are you in or are you out?
No, I was miserable and will not do it again. Iโm glad I can say I did it but have no plans to return.
They arent all actors. I read an article saying that yes, when they didn't have enough quality contestants apply to be on the show they sometimes did casting to find them. But, they still had to do everything everyone else did so who cares?
Yes, some of the contestants were invited to compete, and many of them are actors because 1) Actors often can take 3 months to do the show and 2) Most recruiting is done in LA, which is full of actors.
No matter how they were chosen for the show, they all go through the same ordeal. Most will tell you there is no 'hamming it up' when you go for days without sleeping or eating in extreme heat.
Literally every aspect and thing you are asking about was fabricated. 0% of the show was 'real' and I would surmise that this is true of most other reality TV shows.
The production company got in touch with ours via one of their talent scouts. They asked if we would be interested in being on the show. About a year later, they approached us again with a script / concept for an episode. We agreed to be a part of it thinking that we would gain some exposure for our business. We shot the episode in about 12 hours and it aired a few months later.
Our business was not impacted in a positive or negative way and virtually no one has said they've recognized us from the episode.
e: to answer your question more directly, all arguments, accidents, unforeseen challenges etc were all part of the original script for the segment. There is no bidding process what-so-ever. There were small opportunities for adlibbing and the actual labor/work that we did on camera was real. The load was real but the story behind why the load needed to be transported was fake.
Thanks for being so forthcoming with information on it. I enjoyed the show hoping some aspects were real, but a lot of the plot lines just seemed fabricated. Sorry it didn't gain you any positive exposure. When you refer to your company, do you mean your personal shipping company or the intermediary (I.e. The website used to host the "bidding".
I figured that out after a few episodes. I really enjoyed the show for the first few episodes, but then they started to not even hide the fact it was fake.
It is stupid to think they are all bidding on the same item, and are the only ones bidding on it. Jarrett is just too annoying and makes the show unwatchable. Also the fakest one on the show.
There was some damage and it took forever to get our cargo back. Can't dive too much deeper than that though. I'm sure this probably not adhering to our NDA.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:52:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
tl;dr - A lot of the show was scripted or "staged," but some was genuine. She said it was much more scripted on the XL version of the show which was two teams for 40-days.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:48:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't imagine being naked like that especially in front a stranger (s).
I did pawn stars about 5 years ago as a favor to a friend working on the show. Everything is staged. They had me pick an item from storage that I wanted to sell and then told me to come up with a good back story. Then when I actually filmed the scene the director told the guys literally every line to say.
Over on /r/survivor we've seen like 30-40 past contestants do AMAs and it's all quite real aside from certain aspects that are left out (ex. contestants are driven to challenges / Tribal Council rather than trekking it, restricted from talking to each other on the way there and back) or the way things are presented (Tribal Council often takes literal hours, but gets chopped down to like 7 minutes for the episode).
loudot ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:50:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My cousin was edited to be the bitchy girl on the Bachelor. She'd say things like 'If everyone else just, y'know, disappeared, that would be great.' Then smile to let them know she was making a joke. They reliably cut away from her early, so she sounded serious.
She got to the final 3 though, and by the time the show actually aired she'd already met a guy IRL. It worked out ok for her!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:49:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
While I don't have any first hand knowledge, it was a common thing between the different VH1 dating shows that the contestants were all either aspiring actors, strippers (Heather, Destiney, Angelyne, Farrah from "Rock of Love"), at least one legit centerfold (Taya, from Rock of Love: Bus (3), was the reigning "Penthouse Pet of the Year" that year) and prostitutes (rumors, no proof).
One of the most notorious contestants was Megan Hauserman. She'd already done WB's "Beauty and the Geek" by the time she did "Rock of Love", and did "Rock of Love: Charm School" and "I Love Money" before she got her own show, "Megan Wants a Millionaire". That didn't go so well.
I mean, I liked Jes just fine - she looks like a blast to party with - but she wasn't right for him.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:31:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not even going to go into the shitty choice from season 2. That was stupid. She looked and acted like a newscaster who just happened to go to a reality show. Daisy was standing there, just ready to do and be whatever he wanted, and I really felt sorry for her.
While Daisy wasn't really suited to him, either, she really wanted to be there.
My big issue with both this and Flavor of Love is both of them had a woman at home waiting for them while this stuff was going on.
Oh God, Ambre with an -RE. Who lied about her age and got sold out by her own dad.
But Daisy ... damn. That was a tremendous hot mess. She was more trainwrecky than Lacey from S1. (Who I hated and will still punch in the taco if I ever get a chance.)
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:36:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
But Daisy ... damn. That was a tremendous hot mess. She was more trainwrecky than Lacey from S1.
No. Nobody was worse than Lacey. When I was on TelevisionWithoutPity forums, we were calling her LSD-cey. Besides, Daisy wasn't trying to fight her competitors or shove them into the pool.
This is true. Daisy was just scaring everyone with her giant lips and freakish boobs. Someone on a TWP recap called her a sex muppet, which a) made me laugh so hard and b) is true.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:47:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She did kind of look like Janice the Muppet.
The ROL episode when Heather confronts Lacey is here.
I was on MTVs made. A lot of it was real. We filmed for about 4 months, and you become very close with the producers. They never told us "you need to do ___" but we could tell when they were happy with what we were doing.
One thing that was staged was phone calls, phone calls had to be made from the producers phone so they can record it correctly. A lot of times the producer would call me and tell me "x is going to call you in a few minutes, he's going to tell you that you're meeting at y, suggest we meet at x."
We couldn't really go anywhere we wanted to because we needed permits to film in certain locations so the producers would ask us where we wanted to go/ what we wanted to do. And they would set up something along those lines.
If you see a scene with multiple camera angles, it was essentially set up. They knew something major was going to happen and they would have several cameras to capture it.
So I wrote about this before and nobody ever seems to care. There's a lot more really interesting stuff about us filming but I'm not going to type it up if nobody is going to read it. If there is interest I'll add more to this.
My friend does lighting and production for many reality shows. About everything is staged. Even events that show the subjects doing particular events can be fake. I'm not saying there's not really competitions or reality television drama, but even if it's real it's played up quite a bit.
I was on a tlc/ discovery green show called wa$ted. premise is show comes in, makes fun of you for being wasteful gives your house a "green" makeover they then track you for a month and come back and cut you a check on your savings that month x 12 and yay everybody is happy. I was handling the accounts, I know all their money "tracking" was fake. but as far as I was concerned they gave us free money so didnt care. all of the shots were real, they really did go though the garbage, they did dump garbage in my yard, and our organization did lots towards going green. we stocked up on CFL to replace the lights, we got radiator valve regulators installed, we had a new smaller boiler installed, a few more effcient appliances, auto shut off lights in common rooms. later we installed new windows and a few doors....its a 1889 house so.... theres alot of work to be done..
we were also on a pilot MTV show called ante up. they filmed positive and negative on everything and ....it was pretty terrible.
premise is asshole aussie host guy bursts in your door and says I BET YOU THIS AWESOME TV YOU DONT KNOW SNOOP DOGS REAL NAME. you answer correctly you get TV, you dont, this MMA guy destroys the tv in a creative manner. was.. interesting. and terrible. and left one hell of a mess.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your first one reminds me of a new segment where they took everything that wasn't made in America out of their house and gave them some that was made in America.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:20:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Calvin brodus I believe is snoops real name might be off on the spelling.
imjohnk ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:17:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone from the city I live also has been on the Dutch version of Utopia for a while. The production is there and is calling them every once in a while for a check to change the batteries of their transmitters. Usually they also say stuff like: "Could you maybe talk to ____?" She hasn't seen any actual staged scenes but she definitely got some guidance to make the storylines complete, if that makes sense.
Some experience with a show that portrays a very large woman doing all kinds of active, artistic, and fun things. Some of it is actually true but they have to edit out some really crazy looks people give and even some mean comments by passerbies. They also said she was not as popular as the show made it seem as everyone was being paid to treat her affectionately and kind when really people thought of her as disgusting and ridiculous.
My friends sister was on the first season of the bachelor. She told me that they made sure the contestants had plenty of alcohol, very little food, and the rooms would be consistently warm...pretty much just priming all the contestants to fight with each other.
Back in the early 2000's MTV's Made came to my high school. It was so scripted it was ridiculous. They took an already popular guy at my school that everyone knew and made him look like a loser and told everyone to vote for him to become Prom King for the show. He won of course. The crew was also creepy, telling groups of teen girls to strut down the hallway sexy so they can get a good shot for the episode.
Buddy of mine was in the first season of the Amazing Race. He swears up and down it was totally legit. He was Kevin of the Kevin and Drew pair (the bald guys). Fun fact: After the first season, they became minor celebs. They even had their own show, Kevin and Drew Unleashed. Their narrator was Mike Rowe, who convinced the producers to get rid of them and give the concept to him, which became "Dirty Jobs". http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0419346/
Buddy of mine was in the first season of the Amazing Race. He swears up and down it was totally legit.
I'm assuming his contract includes penalties in the millions if he says differently. I know AGT does. You have to remember that even if the fraud is not the idea of the contestant they become part of it and cognitive dissonance kicks in and it's easier to just believe.
I recently got to chat with a woman who was on "Naked and Afraid". We only had a few minutes to talk (we were both in a race that was about to start), but she said it was real. I didn't know her, and she could have been lying, but I'd like to believe she was telling the truth.
voipceo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:24:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on WifeSwap. It's all real. Everything they have on video is real. The magic happens in editing. They want to create a story arc - Conflict => Resolution. Usually it's not that simple in real life. If you're mad, you stay mad for a while, at least I do. So when we had a fight on Wednesday they tried to get us to "make up" on Thursday, but neither of us were good enough actors, so, instead, they used footage from Tuesday prior to when we were upset with each other and spliced it in AFTER the Wednesday footage to give you the illusion of Conflict and then Resolution. Did all the events they showed really happen? Yes! Did they coerce any of those events? No? Did they happen in that order....NO.
I applied to be on House Hunters International while looking for a house abroad. Three months later they contacted me asking if I could film an episode in which I would "decide" to live in my apartment that I'm currently in. I didn't have time at that point so I said no -and now the show is ruined for me.
GeeEhm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:43:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I knew someone else that was on House Hunters that had this experience. They viewed two unfurnished homes and their own home that they'd recently moved into which was, of course, furnished but the producers took out personal items, moved furniture around, slip-covered items, etc. so it looked like they were viewing a house that was on the market.
Yea this is exactly the process! They hire movers and take everything out and back in again in one day for both scenes. And they pay "cast members" and prompt as much drama as possible. They kept asking my boyfriend and I about what we sacrificed for the move and about our disagreements in choosing a place... We felt that we needed to make something up for them to be happy.
Does anyone remember the show Growing Up Gotti? I'm on Long Island and those knuckle heads were all over the place here. They filmed an episode at the water park on a day I happened to be there. They got to cut all the lines which was bullshit but in the episode they made it seem like either them (or a friend, I don't remember) were thrown out of the park for jumping off the side and into the wave pool. That was bullshit because I was right there. They had staff escort them to the side of the pool, filmed them jumping in and staged them getting tossed out.
I had an audition on American Idol. They made everyone in my audition city that made it past the unfilmed portion of the judging sing "Lady Marmalade" on camera after giving half of us horribly mangled and nonsensical lyrics. They then edited a montage together showing lots of contestants butchering the lyrics as if it was some embarrassing accident. I was in the montage too but I had correct lyrics, they still managed to make it sound bad by playing me split screen with three other contestants all singing a capella in different dissonant keys. That was the day I learned how much a camera can lie.
Also, the real train wrecks are given a ticket past some preliminary auditions and are lead to believe that they are just that good. They then walk into the final audition room confidently, only to receive a brutal take down by the celebrities. The rest of us received numerous screen tests and additional auditions.
On a side note, I have always suspected that the notes by those conducting the screen tests may have actually decided in advance that a lot of the contestants would go to Hollywood before ever getting in front of the celebrity judges. The actual on screen auditions would just be a formality at that point or a way to produce some good on screen drama. There were producers all over the place and they had three days to review and make decisions before we ever even saw the judges. Also keep in mind that while 15000 hopefuls showed up, i'd estimate that less than 100 in my city got past the off-screen 10 second auditions. They really narrow it down to the absolute best and worst.
My friend was a producer on the MTV show Catfish. She said the producers already have gotten to the bottom of the mystery of who the catfisher is so they know how it will all pan out before Nev and Max are given the case. This way they know they won't waste filming and airplane flights on something that doesn't make for good TV.
imjohnk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:48:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard this often, also on other threads, and I'm really happy about it. I never got the fact that there has never been an episode where the catfish didn't want to meet. Of course there has been where the catfish refuses the day itself, but still goes later. It makes sense that they call them but Nev and Max don't know because they really look surprised and sound really genuine. My favorite episode will always be the "fat ass kelly price" where a girl writes to Catfish for his cousin, they go to 3 houses but don't find anything and then the girl admits she is the Catfish because he called her a "fat ass kelly price".
I was on beachfront bargainhunt in season 10 (still currently airing). Spent 2 weeks filming with my family. Everything is filmed in 30 second shots and it's all fully directed. To begin, we had already bought the place we "chose" over a year beforehand for 145k or so as a POS that my family and I overhauled heavily based on our high level of decoration knowledge. It should have been valued at over 200k. They advertised the fully renovated place at the price of the pre-renovation condo in order to make it a "bargain." We had to act as if we didn't enjoy the decorations and paint colors we chose and renovated the place with. All we got was 1000 bucks which was almost absorbed by boarding our dogs. "Once in a lifetime" they said. It was miserable.
Obligatory "not me but a friend" and I don't know if this qualifies or not, but here goes:
I had a good friend who was on a Dr. Phil special about drug addiction. They did a full intervention on him without him ever knowing. He was woken up by his mom the morning of the intervention, walked out of his room to cameras everywhere, and Dr Phil sitting on his couch. Said he was trippin about the whole situation.
I've known this guy for a very long time, and after seeing the episode I was convinced he was right. He looked pretty genuinely shocked walking out of his room to see Dr Phil sitting there.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:38:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hope to god "What Not To Wear" was all real, cuz it felt super genuine and Stacy and Clinton seemed down to earth. I might have even cried a little during the finale...
Im guessing most are fake nowadays but man does anyone remember how hardcore fear factor was? Now that was good reality tv. One of my coworkers used to date someone who appeared on the show.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Watch the show unREAL! It's so good! It's a show about a production crew who does a reality tv dating show. It's obviously not real but it's cool to see their take on like the "behind the scenes" of reality dating
My grandpa's best friend was on American Picker's. They pretended to roll up on his property to find him playing crazy instruments he made. In reality he had demanded that be done. The guy was also a pretty important artist but they made it seem like he was some random Joe with a collection of stuff.
He's actually passed since the shooting and talked briefly about my grandpa having changed his life, so gramps and I watch the episode pretty frequently.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you don't mind, could you tell me what episode it is? Sounds interesting
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:28:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not a wildly entertaining story, but I was in the crowd of people that watched him make the Lamborghini disappear. They "interviewed" a few of us after we filmed a few takes, and we had to act like we had just seen the most insane thing in the world, even though it was obviously fake
I figured this is what they did. I still have to convince my dad, anytime magic tricks pop up, that the statue of liberty/tank/train etc, did not really happen and they were all in on it
I was on the fashion design competition series, Project Runway! Everything is completely real from the sketches, designs, sewing, and DEFINITELY the stress that you see us go through. There's no elves in the back room who do the sewing for us as many people think. The drama during the confessionals (the on camera interviews) are pretty much 50/50 -- some of it is true and some of it is edited to be television worthy lol. The cast and I just told each other that shit will be said and edited once the episodes aired, but you just gotta have thick skin and know that at the end of the day it's just reality TV. We still have a pretty great bond to this day!
It might just be my personality, but I loved working with everyone, both the cast and crew.
Also, this is very off topic, but the snacks, lunches, and dinners they have backstage for everyone are pretty awesome.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:31:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, this is very off topic, but the snacks, lunches, and dinners they have backstage for everyone are pretty awesome.
Glad to hear this! Some other reality shows (RuPauls Drag Race, for example) has a reputation for having bad food on their sets and in the hotel. 'Cheesy potatoes' is a big one, and one contestant brought a suitcase full of her own food
kidgun ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:22:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was present for a day of filming for My Cat From Hell, and there wasn't too much scripting. The producers would sit in another room in the apartment while Jackson (the host) worked with my friend and her cats. The beats would come naturally, and the producers would have them repeat certain parts of conversation so they could get shots they'd want to emphasize. Or Jackson would talk about one of the cats sleeping, so they would tell a cameraman to get a shot of the cat to put over the conversation. The only thing that was staged was a small party to show the cats behaving well with people around. They only staged that in case they didn't want to use the real footage we shot for my friend's "homework. "
I loved watching that show, since the hubby and I have 4 cats.
kidgun ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:23:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Since the filming I'll watch it occasionally. I used to have two cats and one was scared of people since he was a rescue. I was the only person he liked because I learned how to interact with him. Jackson saw me do the same thing with my friend's cat in the homework and said he was impressed. It was cool to hear that from someone who works with cats for a living.
Not me, but a college friend was the first guy Snooky ever brought home on Jersey Shore. The editors made it look like she met him at the bar, took him home to fuck him, but he ended up puking off the roof before they could fuck. Turns out, not even close to the reality.
He met Snooky years before she was ever on the show while he was a bartender. She called him and said she was on a reality show and asked if they could meet up. He went to the Jersey Shore house and before he went in some producers pulled him in their van and basically told him "You need to make a scene," handed him a mickey of Jack Daniels, and asked him to drink it all before he went inside. He obliged, but he admitted that Snooky and the other cast members had no idea he was approached by producers beforehand.
To top it all off, they paid in $3000 for doing it. I think it was episode 2 or 3 and his name is Rob. I think the best part of the story is how he never openly told us about this. My friend was watching the episode (this was when it was popular) and was like "HOLY FUCK DUDE THAT'S ROB." He denied ever being on the show until we pulled up the computer and there he was haha.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not me, but a college friend was the first guy Snooky ever brought home on Jersey Shore. The editors made it look like she met him at the bar, took him home to fuck him, but he ended up puking off the roof before they could fuck.
To top it all off, they paid in $3000 for doing it.
his name is Rob.
Mental note: Rob will do it for $3000. Got it.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:50:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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imjohnk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:55:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do you get on a big show like that though? It's not that you're suddenly friends with them or something.
cfvh ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:34:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on a ghost hunting show. Regardless of what one believes in or not, they actually took their investigations and whatnot quite seriously. I found that the post-production sound effects, etc, are what made it particularly hokey.
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 20:05:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well of course they take the investigations seriously. Many people believe in the paranormal and I'm sure the people on these shows do too. However, it's all bullshit. There is no such thing as ghosts first of all and secondly, these shows are making a lot of money. The people on these shows aren't going to go on an interview and say they don't believe.
The course broke while someone was on the obstacle and he fell in the water. They made him take of his clothes so they could try em up while they fixed the obstacle. Later they faked so he just jump down from the obstacle and continued the rest of the course.
Also they paused the last stage so they could rest mid course. One of the contestants dislocated his finger. They put it back during the pause, too bad would have made awesome TV, cause he finished the first part with a dislocated finger.
I was on the Real World: Cancun back in 2009 as a cast member.
My experience was actually VERY real. The show did a fantastic job of really capturing our story, and I felt like it nailed all of our personalities very accurately.
Everyone always thinks it's totally staged but mine definitely was not.
Is this the UK version? I can never figure out why the groom makes such ridiculous decisions, sometimes going as far as to really upset the bride.
Is the groom encouraged/egged-on to be self indulgent?
And why does the couple not discuss what she wants before they start filming? Surely she has said I want this style location, this style of dress... then he chooses the opposite and she gets all upset. What was your friend of a friend's experience?
Not sure if it counts as reality TV but I was on the Ricki Lake show in the late nineties and I was surprised how much we were questioned and coaxed backstage by the producers. We also had to film a date that was anything but real, and the camera man kept trying to start drama between us the entire outing. At the end of the date we simply ditched the camera man and and hid at a movie theater.
Don't know if you think Jerry Springer counts.....it's not really "reality" tv, but I knew a girl who went on the show in the early 90's. The "topic" was "Honey, I have something to confess to you" and the concept was that she and her bf had traveled to the show so he could confess his deep dark secret (that he had cheated and it was her best friend). Every single person knew ahead of time and the idea that the "confession" onstage is the first time she's hearing this is ludicrous. Also, she said that ahead of time, the producers were actively pumping her up, "can you believe she did that to you?" "your best friend! what a traitorous bitch!" "Don't you just want to smack her one?" and they also let her know that if (when) she popped her friend on stage (before Steve could lumber up there and stop the fight) that the show would cover any and all legal probs that may arise. And every person got paid to be there and flights/hotels all covered.
My only experience with this is one of those decorating/remodeling shows came to a place I worked. I was really happy at first but then it was just all fake. They kept taking takes of people just meeting each other. Over and over. They directed people how to behave, what to say, etc. And! They said I was too ugly to be in the shot. Very loudly and angrily. Like I merely existed to prevent them from taking pretty pictures of $10,000.00 stainless steel stoves.
He was admitting that he was in love with his best friend. They had actually been dating for a couple years, and were on a mutual friendly hiatus. Figured they'd get a paid night on the town out of it.
She ended up "turning him down" at the end, then "changing her mind" later. The producers loved it.
They actually did hook back up for a bit afterwards, so hey, it was kinda real.
finnw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:08:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice to know it's occasionally the guests manipulating the producers instead of the other way round
dew7950 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:51:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
A friend of mine was a cast member on The Real World and I had the opportunity to visit for a few days. It's very controlled but the situations are pretty real.
Production had a way of letting you know what they were and weren't interested in. If I were to call my friend and talk about random BS they would constantly play the "you're call is being recorded" reminder over and over in your ear. This tended to stop when you asked about the juice in the house.
Also, once there, the places you are allowed to go are VERY limited. There was a binder full of locations of places that were cleared to film. These were the only places you could phone production and beg to go. Otherwise you were stuck in the house with no tv, radio, cellphone and absolutely no singing!!!!
My best friend was on that stupid mtv "dating" show where the person goes to 3 bedrooms then meets the 3 owners and tries to figure out which room belonged to which person. My best friend was one of the 3.
What wasn't exactly rigged was the surprise "kidnapping" of the person. They had several interviews with several different people. When they told her they were doing their final interviews. My best friend figured that they had chosen her and would get her on that day so she quickly got rid of her playboys and porn and put them in her brothers room.
What was rigged was the guys reactions. They had him do them a couple of times, which I think is stupid because your first reaction is your most genuine one.
Another that wasn't rigged was who the person chooses to "go on a date" that mtv did not pay for. They also didn't need to go on any date, it was just a stupid show. He picked my best friend.
Another rigged part was the closing of the episode. He played the guitar and shared that in the show. She is Egyptian and loves to belly dance. They asked him to play and her to dance for him. She looked SO awkward and told me it was awkward.
I am sorry about the way I told you this, but I wanted to explain it as the show progressed.
I probably should have mentioned this was all I remembered. I'm pretty sure there was more staged but she told me that his reactions were staged and he had to choose one. I'm not too sure if he already knew which rooms belonged to which girl. I don't remember that detail. But I do know that he chooses a person on his own but they don't necessarily have to go on a date
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:47:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:30:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Best friend was on Pawn Stars. They record 7 or 8 interactions with different values (worthless, $10, $50, $100, $200, $400, etc) and then they decide which made the best fit with the episode/person/reaction etc.
My buddy didn't know which they would chose until it aired. They used the shit value one. My buddy still has what he was "selling" they used it as a prop basically.
nBob20 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:26:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was invited to audition for Top Shot, I was told shooting skills we're not important.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's so weird, I don't even like guns but I loved that show. I can't explain why. I loved the host and the way he enunciated "Top Shot."
abzolut ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:43:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
House Hunters is totally fake. We were contacted by a casting producer after our offer was accepted and based totally upon the property that we bought. "Ideally, Iโd like to speak with you as soon as your purchase offer is accepted to give enough time for an audition process before you move in. Thank you for reading, and I hope we can feature your story..."
We decided not to go forward with it, as closing times are really fast in my area of the country and we had to focus on getting moved and starting a renovation instead of auditioning and touring other properties. I also wasn't keen about things like talking about our budget on national television and having them potentially edit our conversations so that we looked stupid. ("This house absolutely won't work because I hate the color of the dining room and I don't understand how paint works!") Also, I heard that they only give you something like $500 for appearing on the show, so it wasn't worth our time.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:03:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like we've come full circle! At first, TV was all scripted sitcoms. Then it was taken over by cheap reality TV, which did away with pesky writers and stories.
And now we're back to scripted TV, but for some reason they lie to us and tell us it's real.
envyxd ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:07:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend who was on MTV's Made back when we were in high school. The effects didnt last.
I had a friend who's father was on Storage Wars. He owned a special effects company in Hollywood and built all sorts of props that blow up. The producers of SW came to his shop and asked him to build a "Hollywood" looking flame thrower that actually functioned. This flame thrower was then put in a storage locker that would be "won" by a person on SW's. The SW winner would then bring it to the FX shop to be appraised, at which point, my friend's dad was suppose to be completely amazed by the find and purchase it for a giant sum of cash because "he just had to have it."
haggy87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That actually explains a lot about those shows.
Code347 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:25:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cops. Not rigged.
Orion_7 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:33:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was an extra on set during the Las Vegas episode of WWE Divas in like 2014? Basically they all hang out in the same huge tent near the pool at the Palms, shared drinks, laughs and tons of good food. Had almost 3 of the bartenders at their whim. Then when it was time to shoot they all acted like complete idiots and as if they all hated each other.
It's fun sitting in a pool while the crew does 10 takes of the same actress acting suprised about some gossip "she just heard" so they get it right. So basically everything you see is an act.
I "auditioned" for the Last Comic Standing. I put quotes around audition because they already know who they're giving the real auditions too and it's not anyone in that long line that they show in the beginning of the show. After waiting for 5-6 hours in line you finally get in the audition room. One of the guys with a headset is herding you along with 6 other people into a room. Forms a circle and has everyone take turns doing a 2 minute stand up act. No one of importance was present. The people they're giving real auditions too are semi pro comedians. Comedians who have been at it for sometime. None of that "off the street" shit. In all sincerity I was more upset about the fact that people traveled for days to come to the audition. Mothers standing in line with their kid(s). Needless to say I never watched that show ever again.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:43:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Last Comic Standing" had a problem since the "auditions" of Season 2. Though this article made note of Drew Carey complaining about Ant being put on the show (back when it was a "The Real World"-style house) and Anthony Clark "ripped off his microphone in disgust", they actually showed another celebrity judge, Brett Butler (of "Grace Under Fire") taking off her mike and walking off from the Las Vegas auditions once the actual participants were announced.
I think this is why they changed the way they did the auditions from showing a ton of the amateurs to only showing the producers favorites. Note also, they started posting a huge disclaimer on each episode that the judges have an influence on the decisions, but producers have the final say.
Never been on a show, but I worked for a goodly while in the entertainment industry. For shows like The Voice or America's Got Talent, the singers and musicians who make it "through" the "auditions" usually have some sort of low-level management or representation already. No one is totally "undiscovered." Your agent will shop you around and if you have the right look or sound or story, you'll get on the show. Problem is if you make it very far on the show, you will have ZERO say about your career from that point forward. So you're essentially giving up any artistic license. The contracts are scary as shit.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:19:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Doug Stanhope says that Bar Rescue was completely scripted. They made up all sorts of shit, hired some shitty looking guy to pretend to work there, etc.
All fake.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:24:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for explaining about competition shows with money. A couple of people mentioned that they're not rigged but didn't give any explanation.
azabyss ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:27:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I signed an NDA and want to adhere to it wrt details.
A co-worker of mine and I stumbled into helping on one those creature hunting shows on AP/Discovery/NatGeo. We work in media and the entire process of tying media discovery in with the show theme was 100% staged. Nothing presented actually happened. The segment did work in some "eye-witness" accounts of which two were scripted with specific information and two were locals with vague tall tale like stories they'd been telling for years but were presented as "new leads."
The most fun part was being behind the scenes with the crew. To a man they hated the talent and relentlessly talked shit about them, reveled who was sexing whom, drugs of choice, etc.
That day I learned that camera men on unscripted shows get screwed from union wages. And that fact makes them bitter towards the talent.
Unrelated, I often have contact with people from shows on History, Discovery, etc. for interviews. My contacts sync across platforms, so it's taken mighty willpower to not drunk dial Giorgio Tsoukalos with ancient astronaut theories.
Bigger celebs always have someone call for them and use some third party line. Z listers often just give their cell phone.
Unrelated [2], I worked at AT&T back in the 90s. A friend of mine knew someone who was Harrison Ford's nanny in Jackson Hole, Wyoming. You couldn't just search names country wide in the AT&T database, you had to have qualifiers. Zip code was one. Jackson Hole didn't have many. So I found Han Solo's home phone. Was 100% certain because the billing address went to a firm in LA. So many drunk nights tempted to go to a pay phone and call him.
The number was on a little triangle torn from an AT&T handbook. I kept it in my wallet for a long time. When I finally changed wallets, probably 8 years later, I ran across the number tucked away in one of the pockets. I donated that wallet to a thrift shop and left the number in there.
I was on a show about shopping for a home. It's fake. You have already purchased a home and are in escrow when you tour your new property and two decoys. Then you pretend to pick your house and put in an offer.
I lived above a bar that got picked for the show "Bar Rescue" and can say 90% of that show is phony, not to mention that their production crew was a gromup of asshats. The bar they picked was in a very working class, blue collar part of town that did not jive well with most of the people filming and always seemed to piss off somebody. The show was crazily phony too with trucked in actors to make drama on the production nights. The night of the first reveal had a ratio of 25% locals to 75% actors inside, with the actors receiving texts to throw drinks and yell throughout the night. It was an extra nightmare for myself because for two weeks I was constantly getting my car trapped in with their equipment and lights shined directly into my apartment. The shittiest part was that the rehab priced all of my friends out of their bar for our weekly gatherings. I used to get scotch and sodas the size of my head for $2.50, good times.
Dosca ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:19:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend that was on a season of Worst Cooks in America and he told me that while the interactions with some contestants and meal preparation were mostly real, there were suspicious contestants that he was certain were actors. They never spoke about their own lives at home or their backstories and was really likely to win challenges despite the quality of the meal. He told me that during a challenge, the meal he prepared was liked across the board from all the guest judges, but the other contestant's mediocre meal still got him through to the next round. He also said that the producers would always try egg on feuds when they were interviewed to talk to the camera at the end of every day. Pretty typical stuff but it's all real.
My cousin was on The Real World. Producers patched together scenes to make it seem like a guy was depressed, drinking heavily, and heart-broken when he was just bored.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Late reply, but here's a response I wrote to a similar thread. It's about America's Got Talent.
The way these shows are taped are super manipulative. When they tape interviews with the contestants they make sure to ask all sorts of questions with answers that can make you look good or bad depending on how they want you to seem. One act that comes to mind is a singing act from BGT. She was this older, not so attractive, lady who spoke about being shy, "but when she sings, she totally opens up". The whole intro bit where they tell you about her is made to compare her to Susan Boyle in the viewer's mind . They even play I Dreamed A Dream in the background to reinforce this. So when she comes out, everyone snickers because she's ugly, and the viewer feels superior, thinking she'll be amazing. Then she sings and she's absolutely terrible. And the viewer is surprised, just as the producer wanted him to be.
Any time you see a crowded room, assume it's half as crowded as it looks. They're really good with those cameras. By the red carpet towards the end of the seasons you'll see people cheering and acting excited. They're just random people. The pictures they want the performers to sign? Those were handed out.
There are so many other "dirty" little secrets about the show (and any other reality show) but I'm half asleep do I can't think of them.
Source: Went to a bunch of performances, had backstage passes, appeared on the show at a point.
Still sleepy, but some more stuff popped in my head.
They're also very manipulative of the perception of their performers. I believe that the votes do decide on who wins, but the studio pushes us into voting for who they want to win, who will be best for the network.
One example of emotional manipulation stuck out to me. This may have been on BGT, but it's a similar concept. You may recall Susan Boyle. She was a singer on BGT who was somewhat unattractive and slightly awkward. There was this buildup that she would embarrass herself, but you find yourself feeling empathy with her. The judges were exchanging glances, audience members seen smirking. Then Susan belts out a beautiful rendition of 'I dreamed a dream'. Everyone is ecstatic, standing ovation.
Fast forward a few years. A similar story pops up. An unattractive singer. But this time, the buildup is that she'll be good. She talks about how singing 'let's her express herself' and how she's so shy, karaoke is her only chance to be outgoing. You find yourself defending her. You say'everyone will laugh at her because she's ugly. But I know she'll be great.' And throughout all this a song is playing in the background. 'I dreamed a dream'. Just like Susan Boyle. Oh this girl will be good, you think. She'll show the world. Beauty isn't represantative of a person. And just because she's a little awkward, doesn't mean we should shun her.
So she walks on stage. Takes a breath. And starts barking like a dog.
The show created an expectation that she would be good, using Susan Boyle as concrete. They built up your expectation so the reveal would be that much more shocking. And they did this without you knowing. They never mention Susan. But they subtly compare the two.
And to be clear, the show isn't necessarily bad for doing this. But it's hella manipulative.
EDIT:
Wow, I am sleepy. I already said all of that on my previous post. Time for bed.
My family won a "Pimp my Ride" contest where they took our old RV and decked it out with a bunch of new features in "2 days" on the Outdoor Life Network. The show itself was amazing, and they flew us down to Daytona and did this huge blowout on the racetrack. The actual process of renovating, replacing, and adding all the advertised new features of the RV took close to 4 months, and they never replaced the motor, so the RV ended up lasting another year and a half, but we still ended up with a free trip to Daytona for a few days, and probably close to 100,000 dollars worth of free stuff added to the RV, so I'm nowhere near complaining.
cwm2355 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:59:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
About 7 years ago a friend of mine was on a reality show here in Canada called "Last 10 Pounds", where you were given a personal trainer and dietician and they follow your journey to losing the weight.
Real: She actually lost 10 pounds (maybe more).
Fake: Basically everything else. There's a scene where they go to your house and open the cupboards and throw away all your junk food while the dietician comments on it. The dietician was an actress and the food was planted. The workout scenes were almost all fake, because people actually working out doesn't look good on camera. The scene (which I was in!) where she was "busted" eating pizza at a work meeting with coworkers was actually filmed in her condo common room with friends posing as coworkers. Goes on and on.
Ty Pennington came to our town to do an episode of Extreme Makeover for a family we know. Because they do the work quickly some of it was shoddy workmanship, looking good on TV but poorly done. Within a yearmthe property taxes on the improved house were more than the family could afford so they liquidated the house.
I have read that this happened to the majority of the families. If they are too "poor" to buy a house to contain them, how the hell do you think a surprise few grand on taxes is going to go over? Not saying people on there are poor, just getting the short end of the life stick
I worked on a show on HGTV where people would buy a house and flip it.
The drama is not real. One episode they flooded a house on purpose and blamed it on a leaky pipe.
What is real is the risk of losing money. I worked on the show because I work in real estate with his investors, and this guy lost money or broke even on many of the properties. They dont show the full cost of rehabs, or that they have to pay interest on the money they are borrowing to fund the deal, and filming REALLY slows things down.
That's not actually all that unreasonable if they aren't tearing down walls or building islands. They have all the materials, quartz counter tops, glass back splash, tile floors, recessed lighting, tile floors, and cheap stainless steel appliances. Lots of greys and whites. Its standard and its what people like. I work on lots of flips, I typically estimate a kitchen on a midsize to smaller home to cost about 7k, but we do the same type of thing every time.
JtHa77 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:45:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wasn't on, but i worked in reality tv. The answer is, none of it's real. If something real happens, it's written down, rewritten for story, and reshot for the show in whatever location they need.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Please tell me what goes on with these paranormal shows. I think they're bullshit and it cracks me up to watch them.
From a couple comments i read that said it was all fake and another said it was real except for some of the noises they put it at the end so im a bit conflicted on whether or not it is real
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:37 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Those who say it's 'real' are the ones who believe in ghosts. Not even the guy Steve who has been with GH for many years even said he's never once seen a ghost. One of the original female crew members, Donna did a radio interview about GH. She spilled the beans on them and talked about the incidences we watched on TV that were faked. She also said that Jason Hawe (?) and Grant treated some of the crew members like total shit. She basically said they are douchebags.
From a friend who used to do Ghost Hunters, i know that they have rigged some of the stuff, like sheets or lamps moving. and some noises are other crew doing it. Some is real tho, but real as in unexplained, while others are planned so you don't have a complete waste of money.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:59:52 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read that the guy Steve who has been with GH for many years said in an interview that he's never seen a ghost ever. You would think that if ghosts exist he would have seen at least one. They've been in some scary places.
boizee ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:26:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My neighbor was on America's Next Top Model. She said that a lot of that was scripted. They gave her a whole persona that she was supposed to follow. When I watched the season she was on, they made her seem really bitchy and unfriendly while in reality she is one of the kindest people I know.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:54:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not surprised. There have only been one or two people proven to be unpleasant outside of the show, and that was Adrianne Curry, who won season one, and Renee Always, who was a finalist, but is now in prison.
I almost don't blame Adrianne, mostly because she was the first, and apparently not given a lot of guidance as to how to proceed with her career once she won. When she mentioned this to the media, she was blacklisted from the show. So, she ended up doing other reality shows instead.
Depends on the show. Some things are super fake, some are fairly real. The only things try at are untrue on a show, like, say, Timber Kings, is that there is a director there stirring up conflict
South Beach Tow is 100% staged. My brother was an actor who pretended to be the assistant of a person being towed. And from what he told me, everything about it is staged.
I've worked on reality TV shows...they're completely fake. Producers decide exactly what's going to happen at every step, because they want maximum drama for minimal money. They're not taking any chances on boring people winning or things going off the rails and over budget.
A cousin of mine was on that show "Strong" on NBC. She was eliminated early, and when she got back, she said everything was fake. They didn't film anything she said, and focused on others more and manufactured drama.
I was on a dating show on Much Music in 2009; while it wasn't scripted there was some obvious staging required. I didn't live in Toronto so we put me in front of a random house and had my date drive up and pick my up from 'home'. We would be told hella basic instructions (he's going to walk up and you guys are going to introduce yourselves) and on occasion we did retakes of some things like getting into the limo and such, but otherwise it was pretty free.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:38:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From doing the takes to watching the end result, was anything placed out of order? Conversation or otherwise.
I was surprised that it was pretty much in order. We shot the intro clips after the date on the first day (there were two days of shooting, the date and then the judging) so each of us daters were off-camera while the other had their showcase reel done, but it was shot and cut in the same order.
tooz8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was fun and amusing but we didn't hook up in real life afterward. We took the filming and all as an opportunity to have a good time and poke a little fun at ourselves. We had good onscreen chemistry but not a romantic one to carry it on.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:57:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure this is fake, per se, but Lady Gaga was on MTV's Boiling Points before she became famous.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:03:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A friend worked on Take me Out, its kind of like a real life Tinder. He said he knew for definite 90% of the guests were paid to go on the show and fake everything.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:23:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was he working on the UK or US version?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:14:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
UK version.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:14:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No thats all real. The home makeovers are cosmetic in nature. Most of those houses get condemned.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:20:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most of those houses get condemned.
Most of them have to be, I'm guessing. The only halfway "neat" hoarders were in Season One, before what I call "the poop people" started being featured.
I work on an unnamed reality show, there is a lot of coaching, but all in all, most of the drama is real. In fact there is a lot we don't show because we don't want to ruin these people's lives. That said, good editing heightens the "reality" making things seem way more dramatic
I'm in the final process of securing a full show with HGTV. I was amazed and terrified at our final "sizzle reel" which HGTV paid for. The footage is about 3.5 minutes long and turned out fantastic, but the amount of editing is intense. There are words omitted mid sentence. There are sentences clipped and pasted together. It actually makes me sound better, but you can see how easily they can and do twist your words.
My friend was in naked and afraid. She was a little bit of drama to begin with. But the editors pushed it to the max. Forcing her to pair with someone they knew wasn't compatible since they already weren't getting along before filming. There are stashes of supplies that the people get, off camera, but the producers get to decide who gets what.
In the end they got enough film to edit together the narrative they were looking for.
My wife and I were in the final round for house hunters international. We already had a place in Scotland and were scheduled to shoot our episode 6 months afterward. They pay to move all of your stuff out of your place and they pick two random places for you to look at. It's 100% fake.
Of all the shows to fake that seems the worst choice. They could easily do it legitimately surely
tooz8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ridiculously
I know friends that were on HH too, same scenario...they already had their house, moved everything out and then back in.
GeeEhm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have friends that were on HH and a lot of the furniture didn't even get moved out. They moved some items into a truck out front, but other things were just shuffled around the house.
A guy I used to work with was on teen moms. Mostly accurate but in his follow up episode they paid him $100 to say he lived in a tent in his girlfriends yard. That wasn't real...
How was he related to the teen mom? A family member?
Kefro ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:15:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A teacher of mine was on a TV show when she was teaching, so we had a sub for about three weeks. It was a house makeover show and she said it was complete bullshit. They renovated her house in three days, then they came back the next day and filmed the, A few months later scene. Her house looks nice though.
I was on a dating show and for the most part it was pretty real.
Most of the other "couples" in the restaurant were actors and only 3-4 tables were actual dates.
Some things were semi scripted or at least they made me do. Like I had to go to the bathroom and call my friend telling him what I thought of her, which I would never do. (Yea there were camera's in the bathroom)
kazky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:08:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was told they actually charge you ยฃ70+ per person for the meal there? Is that true?
So before the show the producer gave me $100 cash to pay for the meal. The gist was that they wanted the dynamic of who had to pay at the end of a first date. We were at a really fancy restaurant too, so the meal was well over $100.
I've only ever been at the audition stage of a reality show, but it's pretty interesting stuff that it's generally well-known (as far as I know):
It was for Idol, the Swedish version of Pop Idol (it has much more well-known younger brother, American Idol)
No, I have no delusions of grandeur. I did it on a lark. "I wonder how mean they'll be". It was for the first season and nobody knew yet what the judges would be like. We could only assume they'd try to emulate the American version (they did).
I assume that the Idol (Sweden) did things the same as as most if not all other versions of Idol do things. It makes sense.
So, here's what they don't say on TV or spread around:
There are two stages of audition, one a kind of pre-audition held a few days before the final audition and one that's a final audition.
They're held at the same venues. When you arrive for the pre-audition, you have to sign a contract. The contracts allows them to show your segment on TV but also stipulates that if you make it to the "real" audition, you must return wearing the same clothes, make-up (if any), jewelry (if any) and hair.
There are cameras at both auditions. They film you and then smush the footage together to make it appear that it was from the same audition. I assume that this is to maximize good footage.
The pre-audition is lead by several different juries, none of which contain jurors from the "real" jury, spread across the venue in different rooms made to look exactly the same (for the cameras). This is to maximize the number of contestants the juries can audition. The pre-juries then choose the best and the worst, i.e. who'll make for good TV, and send them on to the "real" audition. I mean, do you honestly think Simon Cowell will personally watch tens of thousands of auditionees each season?
The pre-audition jury consisted of only 2 people whereas the "real" jury consisted of 4 (always 4 in Idol (Sweden)). I returned to audition for the last series of "Idol" to support a friend (mostly to hang out) and just to see if anything had changed and everything was the same. Still only 2 people in the pre-jury.
While the "real" jury wasn't present for the pre-audition, the hosts were, conducting interviews and entertaining people. IIRC, they were there from start to finish. Poor guys.
So while there was a bit of subterfuge, at least during the audition stage, nothing was scripted, everything was real. We received zero instructions besides "Go there now. Wait here now. Go in there now. You made it/didn't make it to the next stage" while some of us got pulled aside for interview.
The Swedish production crew and "real" jury were surprisingly nice and meticulous about giving everyone a fair chance. I had to go out of town between the auditions (I made it to the final audition) and didn't know that the town I had to spend a few days in a little shithole with no trains back to the capital before 11 A.M., so I got back to the "real" audition late (as in: They gave me a designated time to come for the "real" audition. I was in one of the earlier waves, before lunch). I left my phone number on the registration form and they even tried to call me, but my phone was dead or I left it at home since I remember them telling me they weren't able to reach me. When I got there several hours late (but not before auditions had wrapped for the day), nobody treated me badly or were angry at me. I was given a spot in an upcoming wave of auditions. Unfortunately, I had just spent the last 5 hours on a train and had a massive block in my ears and was therefore unable to tell how loudly (or, in my case, quietly) I or others were speaking or singing so the "real" jury told me that while they thought I had a nice singing voice, it was way, way too low for them to make an accurate judgment, so that was the end of the road for me, but they encouraged me to come back next year. So as long as you're not a delusional nitwit who can't carry a tune but think you're all that, at least the Swedish jury will be nice to you (I didn't make it to the real jury on my 2nd try. I assume it's because I veered way off-tune in the chorus due to choosing a too high registrar thinking I could handle it (I couldn't)).
A part of my audition made it onto the show during a compilation of also-rans (as a kind of "Didn't make the cut, but not horrible" segment). I got bombarded with friends commenting about how they'd seen me on TV. Once, years later, I even met a girl who had the 1st season on DVD and who recognized me from that tiny little snippet.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:27:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't been on this show, but you can definitely tell that things have been staged. Mystery Diners is about restaurant owners hiring undercover employees to determine how they're losing money and who's to blame for it. If you ever watch the show, you can clearly see the BS in every scene. Everything tends to happen when the host of the show mentions it. They make it look like it's a coincidence, but viewers are way more intelligent than they think, you can even predict the outcome.
So the footage you see of the auditions, where everyone is really excited and waving, is all choreographed for the cameras. The fast paced queue walking into the audition venue is also staged, because the queue itself is staged. We walked past the cameras, and filed into the stadium and were separated into sections to just sit and wait. We auditioned in front of producers - twice! - before the successful people got given a Golden Ticket (no joke) to proceed to audition at a later date in front of the famous judges you all know and loathe.
The excitement you see from the auditions is also, sadly, all staged. We waited from as early as 6am until 10am outside in the freezing cold before we even got the chance to begin the official queue around the metal gates, and stayed there till noon, also in the cold March wind and rain, until we could go inside. I personally then waited another four hours before I could audition.
It was a loooooong day, it was fucking brutal, and after I failed my eventual audition I was relieved to go home and crawl into bed. I'd travelled from four hours away and stayed in Glasgow the night before to audition, and maybe I'm not famous, but I've never slept so soundly than the night I got home from that shit show.
When I was in middle school I was in some sort of promotional video for a school supplies company. They made it look like a game show with two teams and whoever won got a years worth of school supplies.
The whole thing was scripted, nobody was even from the same school irl. Me and the other kids on our team were set up to be in an upper-middle class school and the other team was set up to be in a lower class school. We were told what questions were and how to answer them, as well as which team should buzz in first. They even gave us wrong answers to give so it would seem more authentic. The other team from the lower class school won by a lot, I guess they were going for a feel good underdog sort of thing.
The company did end up giving supplies to all the participants on both teams though. Before you ask I can't say which company, I remember they made my parents sign some sort of NDA. This was years ago though, I wonder if it's still valid
My teacher from high school told us about how he was in a preliminary to get on Who Wants To Be a Millionaire. There were a bunch of contestants that got a few minutes to answer a handful of questions that were similar to the one's given on the actual show. He said he got the majority of them correct and they never called him back.
As someone who works in reality TV post-production - competition shows are all rigged, and docu-soaps are all heavily produced/edited to make the characters more likeable.
I've competed on ANW. The actual competition is not faked, but they do play up the "story" part that people have. Also some very good ninja athletes are not picked each year over some people who are obviously not going to do well because their story is better.
One of the hard parts of the show is that's it's all shot overnight, so like when I ran the course it was around 3am, so that was actually the hardest part of waiting for so long.
The actual competitor's are all super awesome, and everyone is really rooting for everyone to do well. The production crew is also super awesome and supportive!
Oh the walk on line is faked a bit. They usually can't camp out because of loitering laws, so they just check in each day a couple times a day to keep their spot in line.
Thank you. I've always wondered how the folks who have been "camping out for two weeks" in the walk-on line are able to stay properly fed/hydrated/rested/exercised for their time on the course. Not that I'd ever be able to do any part of the course, but I know I'd be a wreck after sleeping on the ground, etc., for that long.
Knew a dude who worked on Top Chef. Said the challenges were in fact timed, but that the Chefs got plenty of info an hour or so ahead of time. Also left an ample supply of booze laying about in the green room in order to get the emotions flowing for "confession cam". Also spread rumors amongst contestants and encouraged lots of shit talking. Standard issue reality show production, I imagine.
A good friend of mine was on a once popular singing show that many "idolized". She made it through the first couple auditions and was about to go before the judges on tv. However, she was told that she has the talent but that her middle-class, suburban background was not interesting enough so she was dismissed.
I was on a show with a southern family whose daughter did beauty pageants if that counts. I thought it was really a really fun experience! I was only around them for a couple hours one evening and a couple hours the next day. So it wasn't like I was a huge part of anything or got to know them.
With that being said, they seemed to be the people who were portrayed in the show even when the cameras were off. When the cameras were on they verbally/outwardly expressed it a little more, turned it up a notch if you will.
When they would film scenes when the characters would move from one room or building to another they would shoot the same thing two or three times in each room trying to show them leaving one room and entering another.
As they would do this the different people featured in the show would say random things about the environment and then a few seconds later the main camera man would say something like hey say that again but add this or say that again in this way and then you say this.
So they did elicit some responses among the people but it all seemed to originate in some way from the people. And then just expanded on to convey it better on a camera to people who are not there or altered a little to be funnier.
Nothing appeared to be scripted or explicitly planned out. This certainly could have been because the show was already a few seasons in and the characters had been scripted and the people just new how to play the role and what to do. It was just one small interaction and these were the things I was able to pick up.
My sister was on House Hunters, and they have already bought, moved into, and been living in the house they "select". In this instance the two houses shown they didn't select were still for sale, so they were empty, but the shots with the house they did select are staged. All of the furniture and possessions are pushed behind the camera for each shot, because they've been living there for some time. The whole "debate"about which house to get is completely acted out. One of the houses under "consideration" wasn't even a house they were looking at when they were originally house hunting.
They also type cast character traits. My sister is quite frugal and my brother in law is the one that spends the money, but that isn't as compelling of a story, so they reverse the roles for the episode and made it look like my sister just wanted everything without reason.
wow interesting. I have heard about House Hunters being really phony but this is just ridiculous lol thanks for sharing!
sixup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. Can confirm. I had one of their many shows email me about using my house as one of the possible choices. Um. No. I believe they used the term 'honorarium' which means peanuts.
Years ago when Road Rules was a thing (I assume it's been cancelled I don't watch tv) I saw a guy I thought I recognized. This guy Oscar and I went to high school together. The guy looked like him,talked like him, and when he stole a coast guard flag I knew it was him. Staged or not, they nailed his douchey personality.
I have a friend who competed on the 6th season of Spike's Ink Master (the competition to find the best tattoo artist in the country). The tattoos and critiques were legit but most of the fighting was rigged. He told me that in his season one guy was asked to defend his master (it was master and apprentice season) in an explosive way and the guy with the swirly mustache went up and got really mad out of nowhere. It was in the first few episodes too and you can tell its fake because a lot of the fights do seem random.
I gave up watching because I was sick of the fake drama.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:19:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nearly everything on the show I'm familiar with (a bridal show that ran for a couple seasons on TLC) was directed in some way by the producers. The business's original staff of elderly women was replaced with 20-something models; the customers were given incentives to purchase a gown on the show; "walk-in" customers were essentially auditioned; and there would be retakes to change wording or add energy or emotion.
Source: I'm related to the subject of the show, was around for the taping of a few episodes, and was asked to be on it.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:26:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If it's a game where contestants compete, and not one where judging exists, there is no rigging going on. That's big time illegal. I did a game show once and it was seriously regulated.
What about MTV's The Real World? You can tell in the newest season that it's scripted and they write notes in the confessional to the cast. Or they would ask the cast member to do something if the cast member wanted to do something or go somewhere.
To start, they cast dramatic and eccentric people who will naturally have drama/hookup while on the show. These contestants cast can be easily manipulated and read lines fed to them in the confessional area. If you cast the right people, then the producers don't need to create tons of drama.
Riveris ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:50:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My grandmother's niece was on Four Weddings. She was lucky enough to be the bride portrayed as the mean 'villain' of the episode. She relayed it to her mother who relayed it back to us when we stayed there during our road trip. Apparently, they asked her what wedding things she hated, and she mentioned not liking outdoor weddings during it. It was promptly turned into a clip of her supposedly dreading the next wedding purely because it was outside. There were some other things too, but that's all I can recall off the top of my head.
Four Weddings is my guilty pleasure show. I love seeing the brides' reaction when the groom comes out of the limo.
What I never understood though, was that some of these people had $35k weddings, but no honeymoon? But then I realize that these couples probably do have an actual honeymoon and they attempt to win the second one.. Ha.
Babysitter was on Springer. They told her and her boyfriend if he proposed to her on stage they would give them a ring. They also fudged their story a little.
This is from a friend of a friend who was on hoarders. The people really do have hoarding problems but the staff would often move a lot of the owners stuff towards one area of the room to make it look worse in the shot.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is what I was looking for.
Was your friend just a hoarder, or one of the folks whose plumbing stopped working?
I figured shenanigans, but I'm actually more intrigued to go back and rewatch some of it.
He was just a hoarder. He was one of the milder cases. Tons of collectibles but no infestations or hazardous living conditions. Apparently they were upset with him because he didn't throw tantrums when they asked him to throw out stuff.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:49:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently they were upset with him because he didn't throw tantrums when they asked him to throw out stuff.
That's "Hoarders'" bread and butter: the fits. This is the stuff they put in the commercials for the show, and the clips on their website. One of the most popular fits was a woman who had been a NYC resident until 9/11, and moved to Las Vegas. Her big fits were any of her 9/11 memorabilia (she had fucking tons of it in her townhouse, including homemade items), and comically, a Darth Vader Mr. Potato Head.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:40:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on Judge Karen in 2008.
It wasn't necessarily rigged per se, but there was an arbitration agreement whereby me and my baby-mama agree to let Sony Films Television arbitrate our "disagreement" also giving us an appearance fee and flying us to NYC etc.
The agreement states that, as the defendant, if I am ruled against, SONY pays whatever the monetary amount. If I am ruled for, there's no money to be paid anyway. Win / win.
Some producer called beforehand and explained they're buying your story and placing it in a legal setting for entertainment and advertising revenue.
A friend of mine was on cheaters. None of it is real, he met some girl at q bar a few nights before they were on the show, who had just met a producer of the show, who told her if she had a guy to do it with they would make an episode. My friend said sure. So they made an episode. Everything is staged, and my buddies acting is amongst the worst in the world. Really classic episode though. Someone gets slammed on the hood of a truck at a gas station during the confrontation (all staged).
I really want someone from naked and afraid to answer. Ive alway wondered about that one.
aceyu ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:08:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on a hour long reality show where I lived in a house with 27 cameras in it in 2007. Decision House was produced by Dr Phil's son and starred the judge from divorce court. Most was real, except the house itself didn't have windows but fake windows with real plants "outside". and no ceilings. AMA!
My friend's brother is a cameraman and has worked on the Bachelor and Bachelorette for three seasons. He says that a lot of the drama is provoked by Production Assistants who often egg on these instances. Basically, a lot of the drama you see on the shows is more or less staged (surprise!). On the other hand, he says majority of the contestants on the show are incredibly delirious and really believe that this is their true path to true love (another surprise!).
I was on 50:50 (a UK KID's game show) when I was in school.
90s kids may be happy to know that it is completely real. I never got selected for a game, but a couple of my friends did. And they got them ready for games pretty quickly. We even got to keep our T-shirts and got a bag of freebies. Best school trip ever.
januh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:10:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I posted this somewhere else and it got deleted, I'm not sure why. I used to work for a company that rented helicopters. Usually people rented them to fly them (go figure), but one time the show Storage Wars rented one to bury in shit inside a storage container and act like it was treasure someone stumbled upon. The whole show is a fake.
In British television, it's really surprising how some of the most pointless, needlessly rigged shit there is. My sister once appeared on a show in which they demonstrated how high-end shops can sell regular cheap clothes as 'vintage clothes' for an inflated price. So they decided to experiment by OPENING THEIR OWN SHOP AND DOING THE EXPERIMENT THERE. They must've not been getting enough reactions or something, because they asked my sister to play along with the act of buying the overpriced 'vintage' clothes and then pretend to be surprised when the presenters confronted her and told her that she just got fucking scammed, which really cringeworthy since she can't act for shit.
ZeBarbu ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:57:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not about reality show but more tv games here in France. My sister's best friend went on something like "The price is right".
Before the show, they make you sign a contract. It says that if the producers think the show will not be good enough, they have the right not to broadcast it, and in this case, you don't get the gifts/prizes you won in the game. Basically, if it's not broadcasted, then it did not happen. If you don't sign, they pick someone else.
That's why most people in tv games appear to be in some state of hysteria and overdo everything. They put on a show to have their prizes.
CFL227 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:54:56 on September 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a reality TV Casting Producer. Unfortunately, most shows are scripted in some way or another. You can't hire an entire production crew and just hope exciting things happen. However, there are a few shows that are true reality; American Ninja Warrior, Married At First Sight, Real World. My husband hates watching tv with me because I ruin everything.
twomz ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:54:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
None. We didn't even do the whole "not-scripted scripting" bullshit where you prime the talent with prompts like, "hey, so-and-so said X so you should be upset about that..."
I know it happens, I don't think our show was somehow "better" because of how we did it, but we didn't want to do it that way. We just wanted to make the show actually real, and we discovered that you can get some amazing human stories out of actual people without manipulative production.
To note: we realized partway through that putting people in one big house, and subjecting them to an exhausting shooting schedule meant everyone was tired, and therefore more emotionally fragile. That wasn't our intent, but it definitely clicked, "Oh! This is why shows DO this!"
Ah OK. I wasn't aware there was another reality show centered on b and bs. I wish you luck for when the programme airs.
I like watching four in a bed but yeah I agree on how snipy it can get. Especially when someone underpays for their stay by about ยฃ10 cause they found a bit of dust and it turns into a mini version of Eastenders lol.
Calkky ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:51:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The only anecdote I can relate to this is that I know a girl that was on The Voice. They want to create a narrative about the contestants being amateurs that just need their shot at fame. She was sold as being a "singing nanny." They had a little run-up showing taking care of kids and what not. The reality? She'd been a hard-gigging frontwoman in bands for YEARS. One of her bands opened up for Bon Jovi about 10 years ago. The Voice was her last swing at "making it." She got pretty far in the competition and now she's wringing out the last bit of juice she can from having done it. There's always a new season of The Voice and a new crop of "overnight stars."
I guy i know went on Jeremy Kyle, they put him up in a hotel and in the morning the researchers met him and they all had a drink together and a laugh, then he went on and Jeremy Kyle goes 'you've been drinking today before you came on, i can smell it on you!' and made out he was the worst person in the world.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:18:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I completely believe this. They brought the show to America, for a couple of years, and while Jerry Springer made it seem like he was just trying to get the people to get along, Jeremy Kyle was doing dumb things like...
One of the shows was a man and his abused wife. The man was massive, like 6'5". So JK decided to, first, stand there and yell at the man, who was glaring at him, arms crossed over his chest. When JK didn't get a reaction, he grabbed a chair, and stood on it, and yelled in the guy's face, "I'M NOT YOUR WIFE!!!! I'M NOT AFRAID OF YOU!!!!" It could be considered brave, except there was security there to rescue him if the guy he was yelling at decided to hit him.
Here are some examples; a friend was getting her car towed by the same people from South Beach Tow. They asked if she was interested in being in an episode and she said no.
They were cool with it, but almost immediately, came in 2 actors. An hour later, they started filming and the 2 actors ended up making a huge scene about their precious car being "towed".
I don't know what happened afterwards though but she did get her car back by the end of the day (a very long tedious day).
But from my experience; there's a very popular show that a lot of young (and old) Cubans here like called "EL SHOW DE FERNANDO HILDALGO!"
The show is literally nothing more than a couple of guests, a band, and a bunch of half-naked girls dancing erotically or twerking wishing they chose different careers. I say that because the host is a creepy 70 year old man who tends to be touchy.
My dad and the band he used to play with was invited to play for their show and needless to say I was invited along with my mom. There was a grand total of 10 people in the audience and the studio was essentially empty.
To get around this; they played laugh tracks, cheering tracks, and they actually had cardboard cutouts of audience members!
I know this is not a reality TV show, but they do make a lot of skits or pranks for the show. 99% of the guests or people being "interviewed" / "pranked" on the street are just paid models.
We basically know that Big Brother isn't rigged, but some contestants are fed lines regarding competitions in the diary room. Nothing that changes the outcome of the game, just makes for an easier-to-follow TV show.
Keybird ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:53:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a very good friend who was on Virgin Nation on MTV
The show basically revolved around following 18 year olds and seeing what their life is like being a virgin in a culture that is so awash with sex. They go on dates during the show and try to find love, because at the end of the season they have to decide whether or not they want to have sex.
The problem? My friend had fucked numerous girls before. I had personally hooked him up with women. They interviewed me before the show aired, but of course I claimed he was a virgin. I guess all of his other friends did too.
Also, half the time they told him what to say during the "personal" interviews. Essentially giving him emotions that fit the scene.
Hakobus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:46:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've worked on a number of reality shows. Everything is rigged. At worst it's just people play-acting whatever the director asks of them. At best it's drama that's cobbled together from completely unrelated lines of dialogue and reaction shots from a completely different situation shot on a different day. It's all bullshit.
Curious, what do you think it is? Could it be amazing race Canada?
Y6Y1Y9 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:52:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I haven't been on a reality show as a cast member, but i work in Editing for reality tv. The amount every show is "rigged" or "faked" varies depending on each show and depending on each type of show. I can only speak to the type of shows i personally have worked on. My favorite show i worked on was a Jersey Show type of show. Where 8 cast members of a certain stereotype live in a house together and party and get into shenanigans. Literally the same show as Jersey Shore just instead of "Guidos" it was a different stereotype i won't name as not to give the show away (former coworkers might be on here, i don't know). Nothing was ever outright scripted or planned ahead of time. From my personal experience on the shows i've been on (until my current gig at least which is very pre-planned), none of it was ever scripted ahead of time.
What they did was when casting the people to be on the show they'd do psych profiles on everyone and hand pick people they knew would fall in love with each other, fight with each other, argue with each other and get into drama with each other. Then you give them a house to live in and essentially lock them in together for 3 months (hence the no phones, no tv, no music). This accelerates the time it takes for the people on the show to get close with each other and for them to start getting crushes and start finding out major differences they have about each other so the drama can happen. So instead of taking the time to write scripts and hire actors and tell everyone what to do.
They basically do the equivalent of get a bunch of ingredients to make a bomb, light a fuse, and wait for the explosion and it's ensuing damage. That's mainly where the genius of those kind of shows like the Real World and Jersey Shore lies. You pick the right people to be on the cast and all the production crew has to do is make sure they get everything on camera. Which is why they have massive camera teams of 20 people PLUS security cams in the ceilings to make sure they catch everything. As far as other "rigged" aspects. For legal reasons, when the cast goes out to a bar for example, they have to pick from a list of bars that have approved the show can film inside and they have to put a notice outside of the bar that basically says anyone who comes inside the bar automatically agrees to being on camera.
Which is why you often times get people who come into the bar knowing there's a show filming inside and want to get their fifteen seconds of fame by picking a fight or trying to hook up with a cast member on the show. Any music you hear on a show like the Real World or Jersey Shore is not the music the cast was actually listening to in real life. Usually the bars they go to play music the show doesn't have the legal licensing rights to play on the show so they mute it out in post and use stock music. Unless there's a special circumstance where they get permission to use the real song that was actually there like if it was a live band who isn't signed to a record label.
That's also the reason why on any of those shows you never see them playing music in the house. Ever. Same reason why they never have tvs in the house, they'd have to blur out whatever images were on the tv because the show wouldn't have the licensing rights to show that show/movie. This also works in the shows favor and adds to the people in a fishbowl effect that helps the cast get into drama faster. Those houses look cool, but it's basically solitary confinement with a bunch of people you may or may not like. People go a little bit stir crazy. Which is why some of the cast members lash out in ways they probably normally don't in real life. The situation is designed to turn all your dials to 11.
Sometimes if a cast member of a show says something that won't make sense to the viewer. That's usually when the producers will get that cast member into the confessional booth and have them explain it more so the audience gets it. Those confessionals are key to putting those Real World/Jersey Shore type shows together because those let you into each cast members head as a certain event is happening. When they film those confessionals the producer asks a cast member about something that might have happened a week ago but for the sake of editing they tell them to talk about it as if it's happening in the present.
The producers will also sometimes ask them loaded questions in order to get an answer they want out of them without actually telling them what to say. Again, every show is different and some rely on this more than others. The particular show i did was cast very well and by season 2, the cast knew how the producers wanted to hear things so they got good at saying what they'd usually say just in a very reality tv ready way. That show was the most fun show i've worked on. The cameras in the house were rolling 24/7 and we in Post Production got to see EVERYTHING. The sex, the drinking, the partying, the fights (verbal and physical). Easily one of the most fun times i've had working on a reality show. The cast was hilarious.
I agree with the other guy. Formatting. No wonder reality tv like this blows. I guess everyone that works anywhere near it is stupid as fuck.
Y6Y1Y9 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:07:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Yes, because taking the extra time to properly format while typing on a phone is the ultimate indication of human intelligence above all else. Fuck off.
In the last season, a couple from rooster teeth (Burnie & Ashley) took part in the race. Due to the demand from the fans, they have a done a few podcasts (that can be found on YouTube) talking about bts stuff, challenges, and how they approached each leg.
It should come as no surprise to anyone, but shows where the main characters are essentially committing a crime are entirely fictional.
The people on the show have conversations on camera with producers all the time about "If I was really doing this, I'd..." trying to figure out how to present things to the audience.
Did an episode of a house cleanup show called Kim's rude awakenings.
Our house was pretty messy, but disorganized messy, not like full gross, just boxes and crap all over the place. Vacuuming needed ect.
They basically focused on a few rooms and had us clean those, they offered mostly zero help to us other than the garbage bin they rented for us. My mom was tasked with her own room and for a woman with MS and fibromialga this was quite difficult to handle.
They used a brief clip of a room and cat that wasn't ours. Because my sister had a bit more of a punkish look they presented her and told her to be rude and disobedient when she's a super nice and friendly girl and not rude at home at all. We're a nice family who gets along well but they really wanted us to play into these roles they outlined for us.
When the time was close to film the clean rooms they actually just moved some stuff since the task they gave us was way to much to get done in a weeks time. So the mess was just transferred to rooms we weren't filming in.
They were all pretty nice people but the amount of stuff that was faked was pretty annoying.
My family sold a car to a smaller British car show. The only thing they lied about was that the car was already sold to them by the time they came to shoot the "sale" actually they had already taken it away and we're looking at it to make sure it was fixable and they brought it back to shoot. Also they weren't very prepared. They had no script, no lights, and no lunch. It was also 103* Fahrenheit and the host, who is a bigger, English guy, was sweating up a storm. Other than that it was pretty real.
37214 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
37214 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:17:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being in the States, seeing the cars they picked was a blast. And the guy who bought it honestly thought it was a steal, then the mechanic was like "dude, what in the hell?" Every. Single. Time. Speaking of, that mechanic was pretty awesome with his knowledge of random European cars. He knew all the little quirks of all these cars, which was incredible to me. It looked like a fun show even if they rarely made anything more than a few hundred pounds profit.
What car did you sell them? I only recall a few episodes: an old Jag v12 coupe, a few Rovers, BMW M's and the Ferrari were some of my favs. Haven't seen it in a while, though.
We were on this most recent season, where they buy cars in the western USA
Leafy81 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:10:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to be convinced that reality shows were actually really real. Now it's like they're not even trying anymore. Look at Alaskan Bush People. Its ridiculous.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I stopped watching that show when I found out that they actually don't live in the wilderness as the show depicts. They actually live in a very nice lodge and have all modern conveniences. Such BS.
Leafy81 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I tried watching it but it's over the top ridiculous and cringy whenever they interact with someone outside of the family. The accents were grating on my nerves too.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The accents and the voice fry. Ugh.
Leafy81 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think I'm glad that people doing vocal fry don't irritate me as much as some other things do. Like certain accents, they really get under my skin for some reason. I feel bad that it bothers me but I'm not sure how to make it not.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Vocal fry really really bugs me. I don't know if people do it on purpose or not. The only accent that I can't stand is French. Nothing against the French other than that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't they get busted for fraud not to long ago? Something about taking money from the state.
Leafy81 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think so. That family just has problems. I wouldn't mind watching their real lives, I'd probably prefer it to the made up brown town b.s.
There was a Restaurant Makeover show filming downstairs here, don't know the actual show name. They set up a craft services style tent in the street and put a wood shop in it. They built all of the renovations out of masonite, glue, staples, and a lot of brightly colored paint. The "renovation" pretty much fell apart in a month, but it did pull in a lot of new business and there were lines down the block for Sunday brunch that went on for a year.
One of my siblings works closely on a very popular reality show. Basically the people in the background are planted no matter where they go. From what I've been told they are very much the people they are on screen, the nice ones on the show are nice people and the divas are also like that in real life
I imagine shows like chopped is probably real but some like the next food network star are fake. Its like keeping up with the kardashians, I mean sure these people are bat shit crazy, but this is clearly staged. One of the food network shows you could clearly tell what person was going to win because they lost a partner all game but somehow her team was untouched the rest of the show. It really depends on the show, most of the more popular ones are staged.
I was around for filming of a couple of those investigation reality shows that promise to show the real detectives and forensic technicians at work. They were mostly based in truth but distorted reality for entertainment purposes.
The crews would come out to crime scenes with the investigators and film the initial response. They would collect a bunch of raw footage and then over the next few days call us up to film little bits to help turn the case into a drama for viewers. Dramatic bits like the first entrance into a crime scene were reshot. Detectives staged conversations to inform the audience of new details that emerged. Crime lab techs repeated tests with fake evidence so the camera could show the process. In some episodes, cases that were quickly solved in reality were presented with important information withheld until very near the episode in order to create dramatic tension.
The worst part was one of the shows got a little sloppy considering they were working with active investigations. They had gotten approval from one agency to follow along, but the other agencies involved in a typical response didn't find out about filming until they showed up to a crime scene and were met by a guy with a camera. The crew forgot to have everyone sign appearance waivers, so I know one investigator whose face ended up blurred out in some shots after complaining about it. I once answered a question for the production team and found myself credited as having a job title that a) was definitely not mine and b) does not exist. The biggest mishap came up after someone in the prosecutors' office realized that nobody had really discussed the fact that video taken at an investigation should probably be considered evidence, and the impact of a reality show about the crime and arrest airing before the suspect actually goes to trial. Messy stuff. Camera crews disappeared shortly thereafter.
Fabgrrl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:55:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went to high school with a girl who was on Temptation Island. I don't know how much of the show was faked, but I did notice they gave her a fake occupation. She was really an aspiring actress. I guess they wanted her to seem like an average person.
A huge number of game show contestants are desperate actors. They rarely want them to say they are another dreamer who thinks this is the start of their career.
A friend of mine auditioned for The X Factor some years ago.
The "outside cheering" and "judges' cars pulling up" shots are totally staged and are done over and over again until the production team are happy with the result. They are apparently very rude and unpleasant people, not afraid to raise personal beef with anyone they don't think is putting the effort in. Needless to say there's nobody in those cars, because do you honestly expect Simon Cowell to go back and forth ten times until the onlookers give the perfect reaction?
He said only those who are really good, really bad, or really hot get get to meet the actual judges. All the regular normal people are filtered out early doors by a panel of young research assistants and someone who knows a little bit about performing arts.
According to him it was "commercialised beyond belief" and basically a massive waste of time. There have been allegations not from him I should add that the show is at least partly fixed.
There have been allegations not from him I should add that the show is at least partly fixed.
The contracts for all the talent shows specify the producers can change the outcome of the show and dismiss the voting. They specify that audience response can be replaced and selected for dramatic reasons and other things like that. All the talent shows are fixed.
I worked as a camera operator for the diy network for years. Everything is fake.
I worked on kitchen impossible, money hunters, big better best.. Etc..
The renovation budgets are fake. The furniture gets returned. The family typically doesn't want any of the style in their kitchen. We made the choices for everything and they had to pretend to like it.
-star ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:12:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No one has mentioned Come Dine With Me? We auditioned for the couples show. Camera crew came to our house and filmed us talking for nearly two hours. They would pick up on things we said and ask us to elaborate, so much so that a few times I was thinking 'what the hell am I talking about?!'. Glad we didn't get through as the actual show would probably have made us look completely different to who we really are, personality wise. I would love to see our final edited audition that the crew sent to the directors though.
Was on Property Virgins. Yes, the first 2 places they showed me were surprises. The 3rd I had already closed on (they came back a month later after the first 2) and they asked me to pretend like I was seeing it for the first time. I got horribly drunk when they were waiting for my "offer to be accepted" and then I yelled at people on the sidewalk outside of the bar. Fun times.
Not on but friends who were on told me @Midnight, totally scripted & fake.
Decyde ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:34:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Friend of mine online went to Judge Judy.
She said they shoot a bunch of episodes a day and they are encouraged to trigger Judge Judy.
My friends went on there because she had to move in with her mom when she was really sick. She was living with her now husband in an apartment where both their names were on the lease.
Since she left with like 6 months left on the lease, they decided to spin the story that she just moved out and wouldn't pay anything including back rent.
They sued for like $3,000 and since the show paid everything, they got a decent bit of money from doing it. They got air travel and hotel paid for and it was pretty much a trip for the 2 of them.
Hypnosis shows. I got picked randomly out of the audience with 4 - 5 other people. They filmed the dude trying to hypnotize us with our eyes closed and when the camera cut everyone called him out on his bullshit. The producers asked us if we could play along. Me and two others didnt want to but a few dudes stayed for shits and giggles.
ETroll ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:06:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was a contestant on "beauty and the geek" for the first (and only?) season in Norway. Nothing was really rigged. But if we said someting off camera or reacted to something off camera then we was required to repeat it as closely as possible on camera when the came crew arrived. (often just 5 min later) And When I was voted off I had to go trough the door around 5 times before they wrere happy with the sadfaces and stuff. (I am a emotionless person, but I had to try to fake tears before walking out)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:04:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was it called Beauty and the Geek, or another name?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:20:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was a cam op on Cheaters in Dallas. Id say about 80% of the episodes were all fake with paid crappy actors. I even got one of my friends and his girlfriend to go on it, seeing as he was a struggling actor. The other 20% were legit though, got hairy and awkward often.
The audience gets a speech before it's live, and is told to applaud and stand up when asked to. You know you're asked to when a guy in front of the stand is swinging around a rolled up piece of paper in the air like a mad man. They tell you 'If you don't stand up and applaud you're the only one which makes you look ridiculous on tv, so you better stand up and applaud'. They manipulate you hard.. They even give 'prices' (a mug and a $5 cap) to the individuals that applaud and stand up most enthousiastic.
My friend was on chopped. He said it basically went as it shows. He got chopped though so they don't know what's good.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:45:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This probably won't come shocking, but Jerry Springer. 3 friends of mine from high school signed up for it and got accepted to be on the show. It was one guy and two girls. They presented with a script to be in some love triangle scandal where my guy friend was cheating on his "gf" (which they weren't real BF/GF in real life). The girl he cheated on with his "gf", was actually one of their friends, as well. It was extremely funny watching them try to act when we all re-watched the episode later on when it aired.
I'd be curious to hear from a former contestant on Top Shot. It seems like there wouldn't be much to fix on a show like that, you can either hit a bullseye or you can't.
The only thing I could see them fixing would be the order certain events or contests occurred to have a higher Jamie of a desired result (i.e. A pistol challenge when one contestant is a pistol expert and the other is a rifle expert.)
I can only think of one season where there was really any type of big character drama in the house between contestants, so it never seemed pushed.
I was able to meet a drag queen that had been on RuPaul's Drag Race through a mutual friend. She told me that when they send someone home, the drag queen already knows ahead of time. The hotel they stay in puts a notice on their door in the morning saying "you'll be checking out today. Have all your stuff packed by _____".
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:18:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Willam Belli (/u/noextrai or /u/willambelli, here) has been vocal about knowing ahead of time. He mentioned it on the Afterbuzz podcast, along with sharing some behind the scenes stuff.
Cool. I don't watch the show or take a huge interest in drag, so this isn't something I knew was somewhat public information.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:46:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not a problem. Besides, Willam Belli being so vocal is why RPDR tightened up their non-disclosure agreement. He'd previously gotten into a Facebook argument with one of the (still-employed!) production members, which ended when WB reminded the employee she'd also violated her NDR by using some of her arguments online, with him.
FWIW, Willam Belli has a book coming out in October, which should be pretty juicy, considering by then, he may be outside the parameters of his contract with World Of Wonder productions, which makes RPDR.
I just looked and saw that the queen I met was on the same season as Willam. Since she was comfortable sharing her story, maybe that means the NDR is already expired? Or maybe it was just casual conversation so she was letting her guard down.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:00:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't speak for your friend, but it's possible the NDR statute of limitations is up. Season 4 was filmed over five years ago.
Willam Belli was actually a team player, but thanks to some dirty deals, he's spoken out about it more. "Dirty" refers to being asked not once, but twice, to be on later RPDR shows and then when he cleared his bookings to be there, was told they were going a different direction. He appeared in the second season of "Drag U", but was only used once. He was asked to be on All-Stars season one and then told to leave before production began.
Don't feel badly for Willam, though: He has his own empire of music, movies and appearances going on. The only RPDR queen making as much as him musically is Alaska, from Season 5.
Had a friend on Americas best dance crew. There's a narrative for certain crews that draw more viewers in to win.
If one of those crews messed up, they would reshoot until the stunts land correctly. Then film the judge's "reactions" to the performance.
MDRox99 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:08:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure if it really counts but during the 2013 Pokemon World Championships in Vancouver I met someone who somehow had some connections and I was with a group of people recorded for the Japanese show Pokemon Smash when it was still on.
They took maybe about 10 minutes to find a location by a boat but decided to move somewhere else because it was to loud. Basically they asked us questions about the new Pokemon that had been relieved like what type was Gogoat, and showed us a few pictures of the new Pokemon and asked what its name was. I was in the back and socially awkward so I just stood there while a few 6 year olds stole the show.
One correctly named Sylveon, but because it was a Japanese show they asked us to say the Japanese name, Nymphia. There was a translator that would translate the questions for us and someone with those large cards but I forget what they were for. They then told us that one of the characters on the show had a shtick where he would eat octopus or squid or something and we had to act grossed out about it. It wasn't hard.
It ended by one of the characters thanking us and wishing we will never stop playing Pokemon. All in all it's pretty real, there isn't much to really fake, but I thought I'd share. I don't believe it ever aired, they told us it would air in about 4 weeks but I never saw it. It might of aired sooner, or they just scrapped it because who wants to see a bunch of kids name Pokemon at an event 4 weeks ago when there's new footage of the new games?
I've heard that COPS, the original reality show, is the only unscripted reality show.
jdrc07 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:32:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every single person on that Operation Repo show is a paid extra, and every episode is based on a loosely written script.
The only cool thing about it was they paid us more than the usual rates and told us to improv conflict, we were allowed to curse all we wanted, and were allowed to "get physical" with the repo people. Physical as in shoving, but not straight up punching or anything like that. Basically we all started acting out the scene before the people showed up in their tow truck and we got one take to try to make the shit believable.
I got excited thinking I was gonna just shove whichever dude came out and then get my ass thrown onto the concrete on TV and have a funny gif I could make of myself for all my friends to laugh at, but when they rolled up it was a really overweight disgusting looking lady that came out and I had absolutely no interest in touching her, so I ended up just sitting in the back and cursing a lot.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:35:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Waiting for the teen mom to come and say the baby isn't even hers and the producers make her cry over petty inconveniences.
My dad was on Ice Cold Gold (2 seasons) on Animal Planet. John, the hothead. Tbh he's the sweetest person on the planet, wouldn't hurt a fly, and he was scripted to be the angry one. So take it with a grain of salt.
I had a cousin on Cash Cab, they hailed the cab like a regular taxi but then they were given the opportunity to go home, change, etc., then were told to go wait at the corner to be picked up.
I was a contractor on one of those Home and Garden home renovations shows where they turn out a project in 3 days. The work was very real and very grueling, I easily had 40 hours our work in within the 3 days of filming. The host of the show actually busted his ass more than anyone during the filming so he got respect from everyone involved.
The reality of it was no blue prints other than some rough drawings on paper, no permits, and no inspections. The pace of construction meant you were working on top of everyone, something or someone was always in your way, including a large number of people who just wandered thru the project to see it. The end results was a beautiful project on camera. However since no one was getting paid the second the cameras turned off our tools got put away and everyone left, leaving a ton of loose odds and ends for the property owner to deal with later. The properties owners got a fantastic looking project for free but I'm sure they are still fixing screw ups to this day. I'm glad I got to be a part of it but will never volunteer again nor would I ever let anything I own be a part of a reality show.
One of my coworkers was on a certain Alaskan crab fishing show. After working with him for two years, we have talked about it quite a bit. I can assure you that the work, the danger and the goofing off is 100% real. There is no script. Editing makes for a more dramatic viewer experience though. There is a lot of traveling time, getting to the crabbing area, etc.
I used to really like that show, but after that captain had the stroke (sorry, forgot his name) and they filmed him in the hospital, I never watched it again. Trying to tug at people's heartstrings using a man that can't even consent is a horrible thing to do for ratings. I don't even understand why the boys went along with it.
I was on Comic Book Men. I was told the negotiation process was real and it was. I had some funny interactions with Ming that were authentic, as were a few of the bearded guy's jokes. Aside from that, everything else was staged.
They had me do a few retakes of presenting the item I was selling as well as a few retakes on the handshake once we made the deal. Other than that, pretty real.
Tell em' Steve Dave! I was a weekly visitor to the comic shop before it became overpopulated with annoying people.
I was a big fan of his early stuff. Clerks, Mallrats, and Chasing Amy are my shit. Not a fan of his more recent work. Not my cup of tea. I've heard the podcast was good but I've yet to get into it.
Mostly related: I was approached by a producer of King of the Nerds to audition for Season 2. I put together an audition tape and all of the other materials they asked for. Then someone else emailed to remind me that my application (which I was never told about) was due two days ago. I sent it in, and never heard back from them.
A year later, I was approached by a third person to audition for Season 3. I put together a new audition tape, then was sporadically asked or "reminded" to do other things by other people I hadn't talked to. On one occasion, I took a screenshot of my Sent email folder to show them that I had, in fact, sent the thing they had asked for.
A year later, approached again, this time for a different show. I just ignored it.
TL;DR: In the audition process, overpaid disorganized people lead you to believe that you are special, give unclear instructions, and then abandon all contact as soon as you don't make the cut.
One of, if not the most, real and not rigged shows on TV. You can read all the contestant AMA's or just look at the before and after pictures of people getting insanely hurt or insanely thin.
I was on a reality show in Norway where the premise was that they take Americans of Norwegian ancestry to Norway and undergo cultural challenges (eating lutefisk, performing black metal, cross-country skiing, etc.)
It was all pretty on the level honestly. Occasionally the director will ask you to say something again (or just make people comment on stuff at all) or they'll have you recreate something the cameras didn't get.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Had a guy I knew in middle school show up on 16 and Pregnant. Totally a nice and charismatic dude but wasn't surprised he knocked someone up that young. MTV made him look like the absolute worst mainly because they focus on the baby momma in those instances. Since then I've felt bad for the dads on that show.
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Deadliest Catch is realish but not really. The catch quotas are set At the beginning of the season so there is no competition there. They never fish in the storms or weather they depict. Anything over 25-30 knot winds is rare to see crews pulling gear. Crew argue but it's more like little girls behind each other's back and not yelling at each other. One thing that is true is that fishermen do love to drink.
Deadliest Catch is fairly real. The stuff that happens, happens, but is extremely exaggerated. A PART HAS BROKEN ON THE BOAT ITS GOING TO SINK, no it's just a normal issue. everything is usually OK. I did see one poor kid climbing up and down a mast for an hour to "get the perfect shot".
Big Tuna is the same way. No body really uses the harpoon, just started doing it for show. Tuna hitting the line is just a cinderblock sinking with drag adjusted.
I did work with a captain that did an Alaska boat welding show maybe 8 years ago with Discovery that said it was fake as fuck.
Reminds me of the AMA.ish post of someone that appeared on Judge Judy and her mentioning that prior to the taping the segment producer encouraged/pushed her to interrupt JJ, speak over the defendant, basically just act stupid. She didn't. Yep the whole thing is set up for JJ to go on her rants and and facial expressions in ref. to just how stupid are these people in my court room.
Atm47 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:38:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone know anything about impractical jokers? I always wondered how real or fake it is
I'm a camera operator who occasionally works on reality TV. It's fake. It might be based around some sort of stuff that would happen but everything is covered for the edit which means a lot of staging. You are given a breakdown of the show before you start filming and you know everything that you need to cover including the points of tension and where things are going to go wrong. It's all fake people. Probably very limited shows are real but there is always an element of bullshit or two because the broadcasters are investing money in these shows and they need guarantee success which means knowing the story before anything even gets filmed.
Was on a pretty popular dating show. They wouldn't let me speak to the girl off camera. Also, they gave me subject matter to speak about and heavily pressured me to kiss the girl. Everything was fake about it.
Blind Date? Didn't they cancel that like fifteen years ago?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:50:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My mom has appeared on HGTV's "Beachfront Bargain Hunt" as a realtor 3 times (actually, one of her episodes premiered just the other night; and my dad's first episode premiers in September!). It's completely fake. The producer calls her up and asks her to find a client who fits their specifications -- somebody who bought a house from her recently. They like gay couples a lot, or people with young/cute kids. Then they go and look at some random homes (oftentimes homes that weren't even on the market at the time that they bought) and pretend to buy the house that they already bought like a year ago.
But it is real in the fact that the people DID buy that house from my mom as portrayed. So there's that :D
My aunt and uncle live in a really incredible home in Chile. They got contacted to film an episode of "House Hunters International" after they'd lived in the house for about 3 years.
I was an "extra" on Hell's Kitchen, which basically means I was a restaurant customer. It's not a real restaurant, no one pays for food, they provide free soda & wine and also offer free taxis to/from your home in case you drink too much and need to return the next day to pick up your car.
The only things that surprised me were the way the "manipulate" time. We were there for lunch, with "dinner service" starting at noon - but inside the restaurant all the clocks were set to 6 PM and it was "dinner." The service is made to look incredibly short on TV, but to feed the entire restaurant took them 3+ hours. Everything that went on inside the kitchen did appear to be real, including Ramsey yelling at people. He would leave the kitchen for long periods of time, however, while the contestants were cooking.
They already had enough dining room extras by the time we were called. We were seated up in the balcony and were served mediocre catered pasta. The benefit was that we got to watch everything without worrying about acting for the cameras, and we got to stay and watch as long as we wanted. It was really fascinating to watch them cook.
If the world goes to shit, there are four people I'd want on my survival team: Ozzy Man Reviews (to narrate shit), Jerry Miculek (fastest trigger finger in the world, also really great shot), Tom Hardy (Because he's Tom Hardy) and Les Stroud.
I'm not far from an Extreme Makeover house that was built for a military family after the original was taken out by a tornado. First thing I noticed when I actually saw it close up it isn't as big as it looks on tv (like they use certain camera angles to make it look like a small mansion). Biggest complaints I heard were how rude the ABC people actually were to the townsfolk (town is probably close to 2000), and as might have been heard before about this show, they build so fast they end up cutting corners at every opportunity (poor concrete work and the like). Guy I know who lives a block or so away from the house told me that for about 3 months after they moved in they were having to have stuff redone that wasn't done right to begin with. I also heard Ty Pennington is a total dick once the cameras are off of him.
Not sure if anyone here watched Warped Roadies, but I had a professor who's part of a decently well known band that plays Warped Tour often. He said there was one day they were told to do something that seemed to be in all good fun with another band. When it aired the editors convoluted it so much it made the second band look like dicks. He said he would never participate in that show again.
Any kpop fans?? Not sure if this counts but a few years ago I went to KCON and was waiting on line, very close to the front, to see the red carpet. Mnet(Korean show network??) was filming something about kcon and they were recording the line I was waiting in. They stuck 3 young teenaged blonde white girls in the front of the line to record them cheering lol. And they all had like mnet temporary tattoos on their face lol. And then they recorded the line but they made us cheer but had to do like 2 takes. In reality we were all dying from the LA sun tho:(
Bodieh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:42:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone I know did try-outs to appear on the Australian version of Gladiators. She did really well but they ended up choosing people who were quite bad so that it wouldn't make the gladiators look weak.
A guy I know was the owner of a bar on bar rescue. Don't know him too well but he said it was basically staged to make him look like an out of control drunk to make it interesting. Plus sounded pretty shitty to wear the same clothes every day of shooting to make it look like it was from a single day. I assume most of the "drama" on bar rescue is staged. IIRC a lot of the bars on that show get bought out once they air.
I was on Judge Alex. I sued my skank of an ex for unpaid bills and personal loans. The show is actually pretty real. They have researchers that pore through pending small claims court cases - I actually sued in real court prior to being contacted by the show. Basically you tell your stories to the producers your stories and if they like your case they put you on TV.
Essentially, you tell your story and the Judge acts as an arbitrator. In the case of money, the show pays the judgement. You have to go through a shit ton of legal stuff - they have actual lawyers that file the paperwork necessary to dismiss your pending lawsuit and they draft arbitration agreements along with copyright stuff.
As for the filming, the entire court audience is made up of paid actors, obviously. But what you see on the show is more or less what happens. You tell your story, the judge asks some questions and so on. There are monitors in the podiums where the producers will send you messages to remind you to bring up certain points of interest - or to argue a little bit - but it's not a script, more like a prompt or reminder.
In my opinion, considering that most small claims cases never result in any actual dollars changing hands, the fact that the show pays the judgement is a worthwhile way to get some settlement dollars. Although you then have to claim it as income - but still better than nothing.
I had a friend who edited a diy renovation show where it looked like a couple top to bottom renovated their entire house by themselves.
He hated it as each week he got 60 hours of footage and he had to edit out any shot with the mass of builders in the back ground.
He had to keep requesting production to stop making building noise and get builders out of shot so that he could string together 40 minutes of footage a week.
Looked like the couple completely rebuilt their own home in 8 weeks. In reality there were 25 builders, labourers and sub contractors onsite.
Was made to look like you could do it yourself with this hardware store yourself in only a few weeks.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:40:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I filmed an episode of it, but it didn't air because I refused to look like a fool. I wasn't the monster, it was actually my bridesmaid. I kicked her out of my life, because the wedding is a celebration of promises to each other, not a chance for a stuck up bitch to become popular. We didn't get paid because it didn't air. My payment was my beautiful wedding, designed exactly how we wanted it and where we wanted it. They kept trying to script everything
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:44:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:34:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hardcore Pawn
the staff tells you to be loud and obnoxious
Story checks out.
In all seriousness, it is pretty hard to watch that show.
A friend of mine was on The Amazing Race one year and told me that they have so much footage of you they can literally make anyone into whatever character they want. He said the "bitch" that season was actually the nicest person on the show and they were still really good friends after it ended. The fact that they can manipulate your personality by only showing certain sides of it consistently is the biggest lie about reality TV imo.
I made it through a few rounds of American idol a few years back....it was an experience for sure.
Lots of things were rigged. When you see a full stadium and then you see the contestants singing in front of the 3 the judges....it's about a 4 month gap.
First round of auditions is in a stadium, you sing with 3 other people next to you and you get like 20 seconds.
If they like what they see, excuse me I mean "hear" then they give you a golden ticket to the next round.
The next round you go "behind the scenes" and sign more paper work. You sing in front of more "producers" and if you make it through that....they ask you to come back in a couple months to sing again.
When you go back after a few months is when you are able to sing in front of the 3 main judges and possibly (key word) on tv. But even before singing in front of the 3 main judges, you go through more rounds of singing.
They bring you in and explain that you'll be on camera and there's literally like 20 some people around. Rumor had is that the reason they bring you in front of cameras (besides seeing the 3 main judges) is too see how well you look on tv.
The reason the fuck ups get on there is simply because of ratings....duh. These people quit they're jobs, buy plane tickets, spend so much money through it all....all because American idol lies to them about how they did. The crazy people freak out because it's been like a 5 month elimination process just to sing in front of the main judges....and even then clearly it's not a guarantee.
Also the 3 judges do make the choices but Simon fuller I know has the final say. I've heard, through people I got to know, that some contestants were passed by the 3 judges but Simon fuller liked them so he gave them the coveted "golden ticket"
I worked on Britain's Got Talent, they keep the audience for so long. They let some people rehearse on the stage before the audience are let in. They do things like turn people's microphones off/turn their instruments off to make them look stupid. The 'judges' say things out of context when talking to the contestant so they can edit it to make them look even more stupid. One guy who was on, the audience booed him and chanted 'off off off' but when they showed it on tv the audience were cheering and screaming, because they film the audience reacting differently before they see anyone (e.g. Okay now I want you all to stand up and cheer, okay now boo as loud as you can)
bowdo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:48:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My cousin was on the bachelor. It was frequent to keep them sleep deprived to get them to do crazy shit. She was cast as the 'crazy' one, so they would do things like tell her 'quick, look out the window' so they could get footage of her leaning out the window and noone would be there. Made her do an awkward 1 on 1 singing routine. The bachelor himself was fucking hopeless, he had all his 'romantic' lines fed through an earpiece. So yeah, fake as shit.
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:28:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hogan Knows Best or something like that. I think her name was Brooke and she was going on blind dates.
Yep. Brooke Hogan is her name. She's Hulk Hogan's daughter. Another aspect of the show was that on these dates, Hulk would lo-jack her car (or lend her his, which he would track with GPS) and sometimes follow her on her dates.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:56:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Having spent the better portion of my adult life working in the television broadcasting industry- I can tell you that it's safe to assume that EVERY single thing you watch on that box is fake or staged. Go outside and do something.
wimaine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:09:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: People who have no idea how to comment on comments.
An acquaintance of mine was on that MTV show where live together for a month or something? I never watched the show so I can't say about what went on behind the scenes. But I talked to him a lot so I know what goes on in their real life after the show:
1. They get paid very little for the show itself. However for months afterwards his "job" was personal appearances at clubs and the like. He'd get anywhere from $500-$2000 for an "appearance" where basically he just hung out for a few hours.
2. At these appearances he wore the clothes, shoes, watches, etc of his sponsors, getting additional money.
3. The further out you are from your show the fewer appearances you are offered. So you then start to look for another gig on another show. Or some other way to get your name in the news, like getting arrested (think Jersey Sjore, Real Housewives). So when you read about one of these minor celebrities getting in some trouble with the law, it was likely calculated.
3. Girls. Girls. More girls. At every appearance he'd get multiple propositions. (Didn't hurt that he was a young, good looking guy). His phone was buzzing almost constantly with girls sending pictures, ranging from suggestive to downright porn. He had to look then delete most of them if he didn't know them because he had no way of telling how old they were, and at least some of them appeared to be slightly underage.
4. He got on one of the "reunion" shows, which extended the debouchery he called a job for about another year. I think he has since gone back to his old job, his 15 minutes now over
Will probably be buried, but I was in one of those Nickelodeon commercial shows many years ago. Just about everything was real. People from the audience aren't chosen completely at random; you're asked first off camera. Other than that, yeah, it's all real.
There appears to be an awful lot of people in here repeating things they've heard online then saying their friend or cousin was on the show.
I get it, Pawn Stars, house hunters and storage wars are ridiculously staged. But there's more people in this thread claiming to know someone who was on one of these shows than the number of people actually appearing on these shows.
My god brother was on The Monster's Inside Me (not sure if this counts, but whatever.) Turns out, that show is doctored up AS FUCK. They came to interview my brother and his family members, but ended up taking an acute interest in the divorce of his parents more than they did his incredible survival story. When the episode aired, they ended up skipping some of the most fascinating parts of his experience and focusing much more on how his illness brought his parents back together...which it didn't. Both of his parents did show up in the hospital, of course, but it was along with each of their new significant others. I have no idea why the writers of the show thought that his parents' divorce was more interesting than the actual story. Fucking weird.
I hate these threads. You ask for people who are on the show. Almost every response:
My friend My uncle My neighbor A guy I know My girlfriend/boyfriend My wife/husband My sister My boss A friend of a friend of a neighbor
Can't the mods start doing something about this? It takes over the thread and you can't even see the appropriate answers from the appropriate people that were asked in the first place.
Not sure if this counts as a reality show, but I was on an episode of the Canadian version of Shark Tank (link below).
The people behind the scenes helped us develop our pitch and gave us a few lines to say to the camera. But overall it was very real and they never told us to do anything that I would consider rigged. When it aired, it was obviously edited to be slightly more dramatic (parts of the convo cut out, or pauses added when there were none) but overall i think it did a good job of capturing the events as they happened.
Here a link to the episode I was on, it's the first bit relating to Wedding Wall:
http://www.cbc.ca/dragonsden/nextgenden/season1/next-gen-den-9
I know a few people who have been on various shows. Some are legit. Some aren't. My cousin and her husband were on "Could You Survive?" I believe it only ran one season and was on Discovery. The couples are pull in mocked situations of life or death to see if they would have lived(the all fail in the beginning" and then go through 6-8 weeks of boot camp style training with prior DI's from the Marines, then go again. They actually didn't pass their second chance to survive but did significantly better. That one was all real.
A friend of mine and his girlfriend were on a game show that just aired last week or the week before called Idiottest or something. They won, and it wasn't scripted either. That same friend was also used as a potent ion date for MTVs old show "Parental Control". He just filmed a little video about himself as a potential date, wasn't actually on the show. That one is scripted.
An old coworker was on Gladiator. He actually did a few different game shows, but said Gladiator was scripted. They had one of the obstacle courses that his family kept winning but they wanted the other family to win, so they kept shooting til the other family won. Sucked for him bc the show prizes are better than just an appearance. I think he said he was on Wheel of Fortune too.
And I used to seat fill for MTV Rock n Jock. Those are real, although they do a ton of takes when they are doing the announcer stuff. We did one of the bowling ones behind Universal Studios one year in the summer and it was so freaking hot they couldn't get enough water to us seat fillers and people were leaving early or going to the hospital from heat stroke. We went from a couple hundred seat fillers to only about 60 of us. They cooled us all down and said if we all stayed we would have guaranteed seats to the Teen Choice awards(which was huge in the early 2000's lol). We all had to crowd around the announcers to look like a larger group and they only did close ups. I was pretty burned at the end of it.
Edit: I also forgot that my work was featured in 2 episodes of Pit Boss. My Chief(Lieutenant at the time) did the ride alongs for Shorty, which he wasn't happy about bc he just likes to be low key and not in a spotlight. But Shorty really did take older pits from us at both tapings. Although we did go through our available list and give him the potential dogs he could choose from first that were available. And then he met them and picked the ones that needed out desperately the most. And he stayed and chatted with us and took photos. He's a good guy. The first episode is episode 1 of season 1. The second was is the second season ur I can't remember which episode number. The show was real. The only parts that I guess could have been scripted was that we went through our open calls and he hand picked a few to go to that way have the best results for the shows. Anyone appearing on camera has to sign a release form before they could air the footage.
I was downtown during the gay pride parade last week when a new "real housewives" show was filming. There was a storm coming, so my friends and I ducked into the nearest pavilion selling beer to avoid the rain. They had a quarter of the place roped off for the "real housewives". I found it incredibly ironic they were even there since this is an extremely conservative state and anyone with money here gives 0 shits about the gay community. Afterwards they went inside, and there were paid actors/dancers to make it look like the bar was packed even though they had rented it out to film.
I was on Junkyard Wars towards the end of the series and what you saw was pretty accurate. They did ask what would be need to do the challenge and made sure that it was somewhere in the junkyard. It took 3 hrs to find the engine.
I was also on Oddities SF a couple of years back, that show bears NO resemblance to what you see , they completely reedited it to where it had no resemblance to what happened. They gave us the item they wanted us to bring in, and then even changed that before it aired. They had me bring this funky un registrable steam car I had built and wanted me to drive around the Haight Ashbury, when I got there they had made no provisions for the legality of this and did not even want to pay for parking it during the shoot. When it turned out there was no coffee I flipped and grabbed the producer by the shirt (really) and made him declare a verbal contract regarding what would happen if the car got impounded while a friend of mine filmed, and made him give me money for coffee and told him to "feed the f==g parking meter.
My friend was fat. So fat, she got on Xtreme Makeover Weight Loss Edition. She lost the weight. BUT, the reveal party was so friggin fake. They filmed everything about 60 times. Most people had already seen her before, so there was no real OMG moment for all of us. Then she sustained an ankle injury a few months later and got morbidly obese again.
And of course, just offscreen from the intimate moments with the reality show stars, are dozens of people with clipboards, miles of thick electrical cable, lights, folding chairs, craft service tables and makeup vanities. Just like at your house!
While I love Married At First Sight, I've read that the first season was mostly pretty above-board, but the second and third seasons were rushed to fit the deadline, and they picked the women honestly, but when it came to the men they were running out of time so just picked pretty much random guys whose intentions were different than advertised, or in some cases were already in relationships.
It is too bad they allow shows like South Beach Tow, Storage Wars and shows that follow people's "real" lives to be called Reality TV. There are some great reality tv competition shows that get such a bad rep because of these Amish Mafia type shows.
DaymanX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I auditioned for a few reality shows in the early 00's, and made it on one.
It might have been different back then, but the main thing the casting people wanted to know was how much it would mean to me, how excited I would be, and how expressive I was.
When it came time to shooting one, they shot a ton of footage, but again, what they wanted was excited and "moments" like you would see on FANatic, Pimp My Ride, etc.
I also shot some man on the street things for a music show about albums and bands, and they presented it like they were asking people's opinions, but we had to pick from a list of bands and songs to talk about. They let us add our own comments about them, but it was clear that you had to work within their parameters.
Nothing was scripted, but it was clear that producers knew the kind of story they wanted to shoot and present.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Been on a reality show. They started by telling us the retractions we should have, what we should say and filmed those, then went to the "reality" part. They cut in whatever reaction they want for each shot in post, so I wouldn't say the reactions are real - they cut our reactions out and cut in the first ones that were staged.
I once met a man who actually buys storage lockers that people stop paying for. He does it just for fun, and usually looses money given he ends up paying to take 7 mattresses to the dump. The TV show is entirely rigged.
finnw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:12:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly he says he just finds mattresses, Christmas decorations, and junk. Nothing exciting. On the occasion there is something nice, like a dining table, he just drives it strait to the auction house.
My claim to fame was auditions for American Idol. Went to Qualcomm stadium a couple of days before the "tryout" to get my number in line. Was part of a group of screaming contestants in an opening TV shot during the San Diego tryouts. A couple hundred of us were put in a section of the stadium parking lot where there was a camera crane and proceeded to scream (on a vocal tryout day) several times while the camera panned up until they got the shot they wanted.
Then it was to Qualcomm where the Chargers and CSUSD play. About 15 thousand of us sitting around all day. On the field were about 15 or so pop up awnings under which were various TV and music industry people. People would be sent down in number order to the field in groups of four to audition for about 30 seconds to the people under the various awnings. The rest of us waited for hours....if I had a dollar for every Whitney Houston-style trilling or earnest rendition of "Hey There Delilah" I heard that summer I'd own an island.
Watched as a majority were sent home through an open section of the field that led back to the parking lot (that had several dozen shoes hanging from the ceiling pipes so that was interesting). A handful in outrageous costumes, overly fat/frumpy, and a small portion of "normal looking" types, maybe four or five dozen total, were sent to another section to sign some forms and were sent to a hall at field level. I never made it to Simon, Paula and Randy- only those few dozen of thousands (including the intentionally awful ones) would do it. Qualcomm doesn't have convention-looking rooms in large amounts because they are a freaking football stadium. Those contestants who signed the forms actually went to a second site in SD county, a decent hotel about 45 minutes away and about a month later for that crowd. The edit of course makes one think everything happened over the course of two days.
flick92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:41:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A happy medium show. My school film class was on Americas funniest videos, at least we were in the audience. The voting that they air isn't people actually voting and the people in the audience get moved around a lot to have the more "attractive" people in the shots. More to that point, there is a separate area that isn't on the stage for those deemed to not have the right look for television where they can still see the show but not be accidentally put in a shot.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They have a face for radio.
WOWsirs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not me... But my cousin was going to be in a singing competition called "Academia Fama" in Mexico. He sings really good so he was extremely confident..... He got an audition and everything and got a spot in it. When they went to prep for it he found out he had gotten a spot cause he's really outgoing and confident so the producers wanted him to be extremely cocky and a douche to everyone.
They wanted him to be the drama queen of the show. The guy who everyone hates and causes a lot of problems. My cousin quit before the show even started.
I was on the pilot of a failed reality show. The pilot aired, but no other episodes. It took place at speed dating at a convention. There was actually very little faked/altered and the one thing they tried to stage just came off super weird and staged (duh. Cause it was) so they didn't use that footage. The little things that they faked weren't a big deal and I understood why they did them. They were billing me as the Harry Potter fan on the show so when I was planning on wearing a Doctor Who shirt to the Con they asked me if I could wear a Potter one instead. And then later I was talking about what book I was currently reading (Catching Fire) and they edited it so I said I was re-reading Order of the Phoenix. Kind of annoyed me that I wasn't allowed to show my other fandoms, but all the dating stuff was completely un-staged which was really the important thing.
Though I have seen comments online from other people who were on the show that say some of their sections were staged so I can't speak to the show as a whole - just my experience.
Almost all of my friends ended up being on an MTV Reality show called If You Really Knew Me. Our school, Freedom High, was the pilot episode. All of the kids were different "cliques" and the show was about breaking boundaries in high school.
Spoilers: Most of the kids from "different cliques" are actually all in the same friend group. They all also had perfectly fine home lives. The show was a mess and I'm glad it only had one season.
Not TV, but a documentary on a particular popular culture convention. The drama between the other two in our group was very real. we even had to wave off the camera from following them while they yelled at each other. Most of the drama didnt even make it into the final cut due to time constraints.
The moral of the story is some reality drama is fake, some is very, very real.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also another buddy of mine was on judge judy for a fight at a party i was at. He threw a brick through this assholes car window an guy sued him, anyway he lost the case but judge judy paid the fine
I know the standard changes a lot from country to country, but my mom got invited to a talk show to talk about traveling, give tips and asnwer some questions from the public.
Turns out the people in the audience who asked for tips are not only payed to be there, but most of them do that as a job. They were telling her about their last appearances in reality shows, TV pranks and such. They even estimate the time since they did something relevant so they wont be recognized.
Lnzy1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of my friends was part of a reality TV show and she said that about 25% of the show was fake (like set up gags and shit) but so much of their dialogue came off fake because the camera would record and they would say something or two people would have a conversation naturally, but the producers wanted them to redo it because they didn't like the shot, the sound wasn't good, or they wanted a word changed.
There was an episode of one of those Ghostbuster shows set in Alcatraz. According to one of the guards who worked there when the filmed, the show brought in their own actors who replaced the original guards for the show.
A friend of a friend was on 'Love It or List It'. The hosts only came there once but changed outfits to look like different days. They filmed a "Love It" ending and a "List It" ending even though they had already started the contract process to list it.
That Flipping Vegas show where I saw on TV the same shot used twice in the same episode. The camera panned across a room leading into a hallway while the guy and his wife are walking away. Same shot, same pan, same everything. But we couldn't see their faces or mouths when both times, they say something different. They most-likely recorded two different sound bites in a recording booth and made magic with the editing.
37214 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:42:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Loved how that show went $25k over budget, so they just increased the list price by $30k
IndyT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:19:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I auditioned for Canadian Idol many years ago and as a result, went to a taping of the show. We prerecorded cheering for each finalist before they were even brought up from the green room. The producer stood on stage and asked us to pretend she was each performer and if you were sitting near their family, you were automatically cheering for that person.
Cops is highly edited. Perps are coerced into signing releases being promised leniency which of course they never get.
Editing can completely change the narrative of an otherwise true situation.
jonfaw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I worked on an audition based talent show. The eye opener for me was the producer on headset feeding leading questions to the judges to get the contestant to open up about her husband telling her she should give up her dreams of being a singer, leading up to him giving her an ultimatum of him or the audition, with her choosing to leave her husband to go for the show. She was terrible. When they passed her over, the producer kept repeating "Cry, come on, cry" to the crew while calling for ever tighter closeups. She left the stage in disgrace while a team of cameras and and interviewer descended on her back stage to watch her while prodding her to admit her mistake and declare she would go back to the man.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm noticing a lot of comments in this thread and others from people who've been on shows starting with, it's mostly real, and then writing paragraphs of things they faked.
There is definitely a personality "type" that wants to be on these shows.
I was in the audience of a faux America's Got Talent. An hour or longer before the show actually began, the producers came out and got multiple takes of the audience cheering, really cheering, and seeing the best thing they've ever seen. I think we also had to boo.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Has anyone worked on Love and Hip Hop? Any of them? I keep telling my friends everything on that show is fake(even the places they eat at) but they don't believe me. One episode, a girl threw a fake glade imitation candle and you could tell it was fake! They wanted people to believe that it was lit. Maybe if I could get someone on here to tell me what all is fake I can show them proof.
Fia5ko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know someone who was on that Shipping Wars show for a while. They had them ask someone they knew if they could do a fake delivery pick up from their business. The deliveries are supposed to be stuff that they all bid on to get, so if this is how the whole thing works, I'm not sure any of the deliveries are real.
imjohnk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't know if you're serious but this reality show actually seems kinda real because sometimes the producers get involved because of something happening. If it was staged producers won't get involved in drama, as well as the children addressing the camera sometimes.
I am serious. The only thing we staged on occasion would be to recreate a phone call if we didn't catch it on camera. It had happened in real life but we didn't film it.
imjohnk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that's probably the power that it still airs after all these seasons and 16 And Pregnant isn't. The only reason why Farrah is on the show is for the reason that she's entertaining though because she's awful.
CBC had a show in Canada called "The big decision " where one of the investors from "Dragons den" would visit a company and decide to help with money or advice, etc. My company was chosen for an episode even though we were a depth free company that only needed better marketing, not money. The first red flag should have been when the producers asked us to ask for money. We ended up looking like total amateurs thanks to the editing and actually lost a few customers.
A friend of mine has been on both Canada's Got Talent and Storage Wars Canada.
In CGT there are rounds that aren't televised, including the first audition. Many more people make it through each round, and are then weeded out by the producers afterwards. Makes sense.
Storage Wars Canada is hilarious. It's a combination of rigged/scripted plots and totally improvised "acting", but while it seemed like the main characters of the show were really actors, there also seemed to be legitimate competition between them. Hard to say what was and wasn't real. Everyone was really nice.
America's Got Talent is completely rigged. They even create routines, props, and costumes for the performers. They "hire" acts, they make up back stories and encourage the performers to make stuff up too.
If it's called a reality show it's because it's fake.
I worked behind the scenes in reality for many years.
You have to remember that "reality" is a style of television, most of the stories, situations, and cast is decided on by a group of producers. Sometimes real tension and drama can develop between cast members and that is gold for producers. It is then their job to steer the direction of that drama, in interviews and situations.
You have to remember that crews have a 12 hour a day limit for work, so all the locations are set up before hand.
Some shows, like the real work, have night crews that come in a take over for the day crew so they can be filming 24/7.
Just like in scripted shows, networks need their reality shows to get ratings, that doesn't happen without good story producers.
No reality show is real
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some kind of restaurant hidden camera thing for the food network where the waitress was supposedly unaware she was being filmed. Totally fake show but at least the food was delicious. The other extras they hired were hilariously dumb and asked loudly "Where the cameras hidden?" once seated in their booth. Fake fake fakidity fake.
A good friend of mine was on one of these shows. She says that it's a show, the reality part is a bit of improv but most of the situations are all staged by the producers to create drama.
I've done the landscaping for two HGTV homes this year. When SHTF, that's not rigged. It really is a mad house. Here's my thought process to as why. People want to have the company name recognition of being on HGTV, so they underbid the work. When feet hit the jobsite though a lot of contractors are very "eh" because there is not much money in it for them so they focus on other high pay work. In the end, it causes deadlines to be missed and everyone to walk all over one another and stresses out every contractor on site.
What's rigged... not much it's pretty straight forward. The HGTV crew members are great and super friendly and very fashionable. It is pretty funny watching the hosts do their bits and pieces, sort of awkward actually.
I worked for one of the big "audition"style shows for a weekend. It was the open casting call weekend. On tv it looks like thousands of people line up and wait all day and everyone goes in front of the celebrity judges. No. Thousands line up and then they wait all day and go into one of thirty rooms that have a producer or two in them. They go in in groups and get 30 seconds to do whatever in front of everyone else. They have cameras set up in the rooms. But there is no film in them. At the end of the weekend they have boxes full of paperwork. Most are already marked no. Some are marked yes. The thing that gets me... Some of the ones marked yes to come back and audition on stage were awful acts. They call them back just to make good tv so some brittish prick can pick on them for a few minutes. Happy Independence Day everyone.
My niece tried out for The Voice. There was a huge line around the building. When she and my sister finally got towards the front, they chose several people to go in together and then they individually auditioned in front of the producers or whoever. My niece said that everyone that went in with her were really good, but none of them were picked to audition on the show.
I was on a driving reality show. Hence my reddit name. Things on that show weren't so much scripted as guided toward certain outcomes. The hosts would leave out bits of info for some drivers so they would not know to watch for things, or nudge people toward conflicts with each other. Or, try to get a driver to push themselves past what they were comfortable with or thought was safe to do.
Classic example was during the 'confession car' bits. Everyone is actually answering questions asked of them. Always. But when you answer the question you are prompted with "Can you rephrase that as a statement?" Or, "Can you say that again as if you were talking to them?"
My cousin was on 60 Minute Makeover. Unsurprisingly, it wasn't done in 60 minutes, but that's not to say they didn't do a good job. The house did look very good afterwards, and they've had no issues even a couple of years on.
For anyone who gives a damn I was on one of the Serious Series broadcast in 2005 I think? On CBBC, (but on BBC1) before digital channels. And I can tell you 100% that none of it was fake.
Which is fairly impressive when you consider the environments that these young kids go through. What's really cool is the crew often stayed the same each series (though I was only on one) and they got to go to the Arctic , Amazon, Andes! All whist carrying 60pound cameras! Amazing guys, unforgettable experience.
Yeah it was a lot of fun. Changed my whole perspective on the world at a young age, made me far more independent and brave. Since then I've lived in other countries, and moved on my own to foreign cities. Incredibly emboldening.
Friends of mine were "followed" around by a production crew for some Dutch television show that wanted to depict the "real" St. Paddy's Day from an Irish perspective. My friends were fed alcohol by the crew and the locations were chosen by the production team. It was sold as reality and documentary but it was quite heavily produced and it wasn't even filmed on Paddy's Day. Also, the producer was a fucking loser.
Hero-13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Idk if I'm too late but I was on Lets make a deal Halloween edition a few years ago. The only thing rigged was that they choose the contestants before the show starts and they tell Wayne Brady where they are in the crowd so he can go grab or point them down for the games.
I was in a documentary for the OWN network. I had no idea that they stage things for documentaries. They didn't give me a script, but they did tell me WHAT they wanted me to talk about at certain points. Like if I was sitting there talking about my dog, the producers would be like 'Your dog sounds adorable, but could you talk about _____ some more?' It was annoying. Didn't feel authentic.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on a small network reality sports TV show hosted by Dion sanders. Not much of it was staged, but god damn do those people know how to edit footage to make it look a certain way. Very manipulative with the film reel.
My sister is currently mic'd up at a reality show wedding in Greece. So I'll let you know.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's all fake, it's all edited.
TV is theatre and just because it looks real it isn't.
Friend is in set design and has worked on everything from the bachelor to 1001 ways to die to every Cohen bros film and even Toyota Tundra commercials.
It's a shame he says, don't believe anything.
He just laughs.
I had a conversation with a contestant on The Voice, he is a family friend. He said the show and judging is real enough, but the interviews and personas of each contestant are exaggerated or fake. For example the "hot single guy" is actually a married man with two kids. My friend's parents had died, that was his go to sob story. Every time they needed an interview they asked him to recount their deaths ect. He said overall it was positive, just a little dramatized.
JKJOH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend auditioned for America's got talent. She was just a singer and she was damned good at it but according to her she was shot down mostly because she grew up in a wealthy family and had no special backstory.
Friend was on tiny houses. His girlfriend already bought the property and the show reached out to her months later. "Looked" at two other properties before deciding on the one they already lived in
My high school was on a show called "School Pride", sort of like Extreme Makeover Home Edition but for schools. I don't know all the ins and outs of production since I was just a student (and not one of the administrators working with the production folks) but what was aired on TV was a pretty inaccurate depiction of my school. They portrayed my school as if it was a performing arts school, which it definitely wasn't. I think they did it because we had some pretty bad arts facilities so by portraying us as a performing arts school, they were dramatizing the conditions that our school was in. Also, in the opening scene they showed a roach crawling around - which definitely happens occasionally, don't get me wrong, but my friend (who was a volunteer for the show while they worked on the school) saw someone plant the roach specifically to film it.
Late, but last year I spent a day working with MTV UK filming an episode for a (then) new show.
Everything was pretty honest. The story was already there (some friendship drama thing) and the producers didn't intervene in the conversations other than stuff like, "Could you elaborate on that?" or, "Could you explain that in a different way?"
It was also very dead as they were filming in a bar at 9am on a Monday so some creative camera work was required to liven the place up. We also had to be absolutely silent during filming; they added lots of music and crowd noise in post.
The star was very high-maintenance, but was very personable and would talk to anyone who approached her when standing around. She was one of the more professional people there, interestingly. She got upset over a minor continuity error that you would never have noticed in the episode unless you knew it was there (as I did).
The producers were decent enough people, they paid for everyone's drinks for the day which added up to quite a lot. My favourite person there was the security guy who has worked with MTV for years and had loads of hilarious stories about doing security work for various celebrities.
The show and episode itself were shit, but the process was very honest. Maybe that's why it was shit.
A friend of mine was a contestant on the first season of The Voice. Apparently he was told before his performance that Blake Shelton would turn his chair around for him and to go with Blake Shelton over any other judges that might turn for him.
Later, when they were doing the sing-off-in-the-ring thing, he had been told ahead of time that he would not be picked to continue despite the fact that all 3 judges besides Blake Shelton all said on-camera that he should be the one to continue. They edited out Adam Levine's praise to make it look less unfair that Blake picked the other contestant.
My only guess would be cancel his appearance altogether.
Esteedy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was in a couple episodes of a reality show and what I found interesting was the way they film those cut scenes of people talking to the camera. Your basically having a conversation with the producer that happens to have a camera over his shoulder. He asks you very precise questions to get a response they can cut and edit into what they want the viewer to hear. You almost forget your being filmed. It's very easy to slip up as they try to guide you into controversial conversations.
Geor4v3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was onboard while a few episodes of drug wars were filmed on a coast Guard Cutter. Everything was real and unscripted. The military doesn't let these shows affect operations, they are just in the way and take up our racks. They were also only onboard for 3 weeks and said they were onboard he whole 3 months.
Even as a kid I could tell the temple run thing was an epic fail with everything being luck and not enough time to complete the run unless you hit everything exactly right.
My old roommate was on Cupcake Wars a few times and said that it was pretty silent and boring. Like a normal workday in the kitchen but in a nicer kitchen and with cameras. The producers told them to have more energy, look panicked, and edited huffing sounds and random facial expressions into little conversations to make it look like there were stressful argument between team members.
I was on teen age tourettes camp back in 05. More of a documentary that turned reality show. Most of it was all real with planned outings. Main thing was resorting bits they liked. I think I made a cup of tea like 8 times for them to get the best shot.
Was an amazing experience tho, would love to do more if I ever got the chance.
Went on a date with a girl on the Bachelorette. She was written out when she decided she didn't want to be competing against a bunch of catty women, and they made a different story to make her seem a little nuts (keeping details sparse to protect her identity).
Played on a few reality singing shows like the Voice (but not the voice). Two things that I learned by doing this:
1.) We aren't playing live, just miming the notes, and
2.) Even the people in charge of us don't know who's getting voted out. The results of each episode really is a surprise to everyone.
I knew someone who saw Criss Angel in Vegas years ago. She was involved in a disappearing act trick and she had to sign paperwork stating that she couldn't reveal how the trick worked. She told me it was a trap door and a hidden hallway or something.
I been on a show called ''De Harde Leerschool'' Dutch version of School of hard Nox. It's about like young adults who are like basically street rats, don't really have any job or school and just waste their life so they learn and play rugby and learn discipline and if they finish the 6 weeks successfully they get a guaranteed job offered. It's also zero tolerence, so one time fighting or coming late more than twice will get you kicked out. Anyhow I was in this cause at that time I did not have a job or went to school cause I quit my school so I signed up cause why not, free job. We were filmed the entire time for TV but a lot of stuff that was shown on TV was only the drama and the stuff that potrays everyone as ''bad people'' Showing only the bad stuff we did when we talked about it and whenever we were talking or doing something good they cut it out, scetching the image that everyone there was a lost cause yet no one was, everyone was great. They did not care for the stuff you did right, only what you did wrong and what showed drama. There was a little fighting, not physically but close to it so they filmed it and put it on TV but not the part where they made up and played together nice again. They just cared for the drama.
My uncle almost made it on "the apprentice". He even had to go in for an interview. He said it was like a group interview and he left after the instructor told people to hit one another. He said the ones that wouldn't didn't advance and the ones that did hit someone did advance. Kinda crazy they just wanted to see how much audacity someone had.
I auditioned for American Idol a few years ago. The first audition is NOT in front of the judges we all know and love(?). Your first audition is basically in front of interns. They take four people at a time, all four singing for about 15 seconds. If the interns are in a bad mood, or if you get sent to a bad table (there are multiple tables to interns), then all four get the boot. Even if you sounded good, if you don't have that mainstream pop sound and imagine, you automatically don't go through.
The second round is in front of producers, and then it's either to the main judges or executive producers and then main judges. Basically it's a way to narrow things down. At the time, Disney World still had their Idol Experience attraction (which is basically Idol, you audition and compete and everything all in one day) and the winners of the experience get a free front-row ticket to real Idol auditions. The majority of people that make it to the filmed auditions are people who won in Disney World.
The whole process of the first audition took too long days: one to register and one to audition. You meet a lot of talented and cool people, so in the end it was an enjoyable experience.
Also, I should point out that on the audition form they ask you about any hardships in your life. Bring on the sob stories!
Dated a guy on a reality show out of Chicago. Said the show was based on their most memorable moments in the history of their operation, actors were brought in to essentially recreate the scenes.
jrm2007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tangentially related: I am seeing people who are supposed to not be actors on commercials who I have seen on network shows. Not sure why they would do this -- maybe only saw it once but am pretty sure a guy from Mad TV was being "surveyed" in a car commercial.
Saw a little girl who had been on Sarah Silverman in Are You Smarter than a 5th Grader.
I am guessing it is fairly hard to find "real" people who can be effective on TV, even with minimal speaking.
Point is, TV is about getting people to watch/buy things and a little dishonesty is not apparently a problem.
A friend of mine was on a tattoo competition show on Oxygen called Best Ink. It's hosted by Pete Wentz of Fallout Boy. For half the season he was on tour, so they had him pre-record a bunch of stuff where he was explaining challenges, etc., and all the contestants had to act like they were speaking to Pete Wentz. In reality it was just one of the producers.
Other weird/noteworthy stuff to mention:
-When they were done recording for the day, they were sent to their hotel rooms, where they were not allowed to leave or interact with other contestants. They were only allowed to use their phones for 1 hour a night. My friend was not allowed to bring even offline electronics like an ipod or Nintendo DS, or even books/magazines.
-When recording the "judging" portions, those dramatic pauses were actually LONGER than what is portrayed on television. Before they were going to announce a winner, or who was being voted off, they'd spend several minutes getting footage of each contestant looking worried/shocked/satisfied etc. For 5-7 minutes of television, they may spend up to 4 hours gathering dramatic pause footage.
-When the cameras were not rolling, the production team would yell "ICE," meaning no one was allowed to talk anymore. Apparently they didn't want to miss any funny or dramatic moments, so no talking. Sometimes ICE would last several hours.
-One contestant got very sick during a challenge after eating some bad Chinese food earlier that day. He had to be rushed to the hospital and ended up having his stomach pumped. He was gone for a significant part of the next challenge, and they did not give him extra time to work on his piece. As a result, it wasn't finished in time and he was kicked off.
I was on G4TV's Arena and they made me seem shittier than I was. Ok I admit I didn't know any of the games I played because the team captain was an idiot and didn't give us the list, and I did suicide in the lava a few times, but I wasn't that bad! The American Gladiators guy just kept talking shit...
This happened in the neighborhood where my parents'band's drummer lived. The show was about neighbors helping poorer ones fancy up their house. It's a Frenh reality tv show which might still air but I wouldn't know.
Anywy so the show filmed there and they fixed a couple's house then the production left when all the work was done, they had done their share. Problem.is the house started creating envy and bitterness among the helpers and soon everyone resented the couple. They each blamed it on each other of course and the woman ended up cheating on her husband with one of the neighbors. When the husband found out he went to the train tracks and killed himself. It was december of 2013 or 14 d the story stayed with me a while because I was on the train which he used to end his life.
Used to help out with the set of big brother (as in building stuff) from what I gather it's just dramaqueens and alcohol. Sometimes when the drama is low they will show clips of people talking shit to the drunks and drama happens.
I know it's not a reality show but when I was in school we had the Sex Education Show come and do an episode one of the scenes was a couple having a scan to find out the sex of their child. Basically they did 5 takes and the couple were told to still act surprised.
I was involved in a workshop-type activity where we had to say whether different methods (such as sex whilst on a period) would get you pregnant. They edited out every time we got a correct answer to make us look clueless. Also they kept stopping filming and the presenter was told to emphasise certain parts more (for example, the importance of wearing a condom or something).
phoning in is rigged. i was on a show called "tricky" on itv on saturday mornings. i was picked by itv when they came to my youth club for auditions for "name that toon" only this was months later. i was on the phone with them a week before practicing and they rang me saturday morning and told me my number was 4. i watched the show and seen they wanted people to call in for the same competition(which i never entered, i was approached by itv) then it came to it and a wheel was spun, and 4 came up. i won a shitload of toys as rich from the band 5ive ran around putting things in as long as i could hold the word santa. thing i was a good 30 seconds.
XiSal- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friends family was on one of those shows where you are looking for a holiday home and you would give your preferences on the type of home, neighbourhood etc and the people would find it for you. He told me it was similar to how its presented on to. The staff went through lengths to find you the dream home and they wanted genuine reactions when they found something to show them.
My school was on extreme makeover. The reveal was completely staged. Also when they first come up to the house, or in our case the school, and get the first appearance. We all knew it was happening. None of that was real at all.
Went to a major college on Los Angeles, all the kids in the fraternities and sororities were always recruited for shows or to be in audiences. Lie lie lie. Good friend on buzz. Had a girlfriend. They basically said pretend you don't have a gf, be a jock and be entertaining. I was interviewed by rolling Stones for a college sex story. Any story had to be first hand. So my gf and I told our detaiks, but any wild story of our friends... we were told to say it was us so they can include it
My ex husband and I were on Camilla Scott. Granted nobody remembers that Canadian gem. The topic was couples "quirks". We were told to embellish and given things to say. Free trip to Toronto and $40 each. So embarrassing.
I have a coworker who was on House Hunters on HGTV. Well in order to be on that show you have to have bought your house already. So there really isn't any deciding, they have already made the decision and purchase they are just playing it on for the cameras.
Corgon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My Uncle in law and his son were on Big Rig Bounty Hunters. He told us all about it at one point, but I've forgotten quite a bit. I can't remember if they were actual repos or not (I think they were) but it was set up to be way more dramatic than it is. The directors would give the actors a scenario, but everything beyond that was pretty much impromptu. Interactions between the cast were genuine and the little interview snippets weren't scripted. Things are edited to seem more dramatic, what you see on the show may not have happened in the same chronological order.
Was on Sex Sent me to the Er. We just video taped at a local hotel. Was pretty straight forward and fun to tell that story. Nothing was really embellished. The actors that portrayed us were really cool too
Late to the party, but I sorta have something to contribute for once! There is a show called Mentai Wide here in southern Japan and one segment a guy shows up at a house, supposedly at random right at supper time and get invited in to join and have supper with the family. He came to our place just as the lasagna done....around 3 in the afternoon. I had to work in the evening, so they scheduled him to come early, and we "had supper" then. The part that pissed me off was me telling an experience of a friend of a friend story, and they edited it to make it look like it was me, making me look stupid. Pissed me off. I got an apology from the director later, but it really doesn't mean anything at that point.
I know a woman who won Cutthroat Kitchen this past season. She is not a chef, but she's set to be on a new Housewives spin-off and producers wanted to drum up some hype about the stars.
IRL she's divorcing and losing the "mansion".
I was on a Canadian reality room makeover show called "Rooms that rock". They claimed it would take 2-3 days to finish. It took a week! Not a big deal! I still had fun! The crew were amazing!
TLDR: Competition shows are mostly legit, but they're heavily editied so that situations are very misrepresented. Non-comp reality shows are sometimes completely staged
I know a woman who lives in the same town as, knows, the Ghost Hunters and I had to ask her if they really are Roto Rooter plumbers and she said yes they are, they both have families and the show doesn't pay that much and even if they did they needed to be sure they could feed their family should the show be canceled.
Didnโt end up on it, but my family was approached to take part in a German version of the reality show โThe Worldโs Strictest Parentsโ (Die strengsten Eltern der Welt?). The reason being my father is somewhat well known in my country for being a bit of a wild man; looks like a Viking, very into the outdoors, fishing, hunting etc. Theyโd found a special of him on 60 minutes and a few clips of him adventuring online and thought that Germans would enjoy watching bad kids being set straight by the โbear manโ.
Anyway the interaction was done through a middleman so to speak, who outlined what would be required of us, and what (small) compensation we would receive for going along with it. At the outset it seemed fine, even a little exciting. We had had close ties with a lot of exchange students in the past (we lived in a very small community in the mountains and we all loved traveling), and my father didnโt seem to mind the sound of helping out some struggling kids and possibly showing them a different side of life. Not necessarily that hunting and the outdoors are the only way to go, but more open their minds a little and take them out of their comfort zone etc. We watched a few clips of the show online and decided that we were laid back enough as a family the that drama wouldnโt really wind us up or anything
Well alarm bells started ringing after a bit more correspondence with the middleman. He started insinuating that there would be times where the kids would be told to play up situations, and that we would have to either roll along with the staged drama, or actively join in and amp it up for the cameras. My dad laid it out pretty straight, saying heโd be happy to take these kids under his wing and show them some pretty cool adventures - he had glacier crossing, hiking through rainforests, caving, white water kayaking, hunting (or at least watching him hunt) and tons of other activities across our country all planned out. Iโd just become a SCUBA instructor and even offered to take them out diving on geothermal vents. But they really stressed the whole โpeople watch this show to see bad kids act batshit crazy, so thatโs what youโre expected to encourageโ vibe. We politely turned them down at this stage.
A few months later the middleman actually emailed us and told us it was probably a good idea that we hadnโt gone along with it. Apparently they never paid him for any of his work organising host families or setting up scenarios. Ah well, dodged a bullet there I guess. All my friends in Germany seemed to think so!
TL;DR German reality show wanted us to encourage struggling teens to throw temper tantrums and make my Dad look like an angry bear man. Turned them down
bK_17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
any jeremy kyle? The show would be even more hilarious if it's real.
I have a buddy who is the camera guy for a reality show. He says that, in terms of speaking lines, the director tells them what they have to talk about and when, but they don't have a script so they talk about it using their own words.
i had a friend on the springer show and she got in a fight. it was pretty fake but the fight was kinda real and they encouraged her to drink before the show.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Um, in my case, they specifically told one team to antagonise my team and create a rivalry. I didn't find out until a little later in filming when the antagonists got eliminated and told me why they suddenly were mean. Turns out the crew thought we were all too nice and supportive of each other and wanted some drama. So the drama was real and unscripted, but the feelings behind it weren't true. Other than that, everything was real, even though the tropes page doesn't seem to think so.
Not sure if this will get seen but I was on Sat Yes to the Dress Canada. Honestly it's pretty authentic. I went in with an idea of what kind of dress I wanted, a real consultant helped me try on dresses, and we showed my friends/family until I picked a dress. It was a lot of fun and everyone on the crew and at the shop was beyond nice. I'd say it was all pretty real.
I get fairly regularly hired as a musician for the singing reality shows (eg. Voice, X Factor) for the live show rounds. While I don't know for certain if things are rigged or not, one week I was hired for 3 or 4 contestants, one of whom had multiple string players, a full brass section, plus onstage band and behind-stage band; she was eliminated before she got to perform. We all still got paid, and I heard offhand from a passing crew member that the song would have cost the network around $20,000. Can't really see that they'd be rigging shows to purposely lose that much money.
OiMcCoy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My good friend won Big Brother Canada. What they actually experiance is far more crazy than what the show would have you think. So as far as being rigged goes, I would argue it would be the least offender. They take it all very seriously.
daria87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:22:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a show in my country (non-english speaking), which every episode is a sort-of docu about the daily life of some poor family in a rural area.
Well, after 10++ seasons of course confessions surfaced (from neighbors and not-so close relatives) that they exaggerate stuffs. One said his neighbor was made to ride an old bicycle to work when he has his own vehicle. Or the other was made to "live" in a wooden hut while he has an actual brick-and-mortar house next door (the hut was an old property of theirs) . One house looked like it hadn't electricity but they have full applieances and even satellite tv. Also , the producers loved making interviewed kids cry by asking trigger inducing questions like about the deceased mom or dad. This part is really obvious and made me stop watching it entirely.
I guess they do this because the show collects donations from viewers who watches it (they never fail to include the show's official bank account number at every episode) , so they need all the sob - inducing clips they can get.
My parents worked on the set of an Extreme Home Makeover. All the stars of the show were only there twice. Near the beginning and at the end. They would be doing multiple houses at once and would fly all over the country to get some shots done. Turns out, the lady who had her house built after her husband passed, sold it a year later for a large sum of money.
Tyloor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:22:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was in the audience of a show that was meant to be "reality". Canada's next rockstar or something similar.
There was a lot of pauses and reorganization, occasionally multiple takes. No audience voting, everything felt pre-determined. We could pretty much tell who was chosen to win from the moment we sat down.
Back when Extreme home makeover was super popular you could volunteer to be on the show if the home was near you. My mom being the kind lady she is volunteered to help with whatever she could. She thought that she would be removing junk from the house or nailing stuff up but nope. She was told to wear a hazmat suit and when beckoned walk in and pretend to spray mold, that was it. She told me that they had like 10 professionals do the actual work and about 50 volunteers to look like they're working.
I sat in on one of the Real Housewives reunions. They spend about 10 hours showing the women provocative video clips and asking them questions to aggravate them. They strategically bring in significant others during certain topics to get everyone riled up. During the short lunch break, they liquor the cast up. And they shut the air conditioning off for most of the day (because of the "microphones"). So by the end of the 10 hours they're all at each other's throats.
I'm friends with people who were on Storm Chasers and have interacted with many of them. While they really did chase the storms and there was occasional drama, much of the drama was manufactured. The episodes were also aired out of order and often times edited for events to fit better. On one episode during the last season it shows a chase team calling it quits, when in reality that team chased for another 3 hours.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They did an episode or MADE at my high school. It is 100 percent staged.
My aunt and uncle were the household of choice for an episode of World's Strictest Parents, which is pretty funny because they're not even close to the strictest parents I know. The rest of the premise was pretty legitimate though; they really did take in 2 troubled kids for the show, that gave them a lot of shit. What the episode didn't feature was a breakdown from my Aunt telling the cameramen to "fuck off, the show was over, [they] quit" because the girl they took in was a complete nightmare.
I have a relative who works in Acapulco Shore, which it's the mexican version of Jersey Shore and he/she once told me that the clubs aren't from Acapulco, but from Cancun because there are more good looking people there (mostly europeans) and is much safer to film too (there has been many deaths from the local cartel for quite some time).
What they do is that the crew films the exterior of some clubs in Acapulco but in reality the contestants are in another one in Cancun.
I don't know if "The Voice" counts, but it was pretty much what you see, except its more glorified on television. I was on season 8. The coaches are nice but you don't get to spend as much time with them as the show leads you to believe. You spend a lot of time with vocal coaches behind the scenes, and with the rest of The Voice crew, who are amazing.
I'm late to the party. But I was on a season of College Hill on BET, which is essentially the black Real World.
There were several staged fights, but vast majority of the are real. Those ppl were ghetto as fuck sometimes. But when we saw our mansion, we had to do a retake of our reaction.... three times. Apparently we weren't hyped enough.
I started talking to a cute guy once at a club, got him to come visit me later, and the producers started harassing him to try to "steal me" from a guy I was just screwing but the show labelled my boyfriend. He stopped talking to me.
They also edited a ton of scenes where certain reaction shots were edited for other conflicts. For example, I was woken up because my asshole roommate was screaming and causing a scene at 3:30 in the morning, and the editors recut my reaction to be about another roommates basketball playing in the house, then got everyone to comment on it in interviews. He hardly ever played in the house, though.
Just petty shit.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My stepfather was on an episode of Gator Boys. He said the producer or whoever showed up at his house and knocked on his door, told him his house would be a great place to film the show. They brought in the gator and dumped it in the pond out front and then filmed themselves removing it. Gave him a scripted story to tell for the camera about how the gator came in under the fence and how he called the Gator Boys for help.
Had a friend who worked for and was on Duck Dynasty. While the family really is exactly how they're portrayed, most of it is scripted. But they really are just crazy, kind, conservative, country folk.
WAY back when I was on Extreme Makeover as a bad clothes model, it was surprisingly accurate. My fashion is atrocious, I wore my own clothes, and of camera I got real fashion tips I remember to this day, and some clothes. It was a fun experience.
BUT, if you are ever in Japan or just watching the "wacky Japanese TV" clips that make Japan seem so "crazy", I am sorry to burst your bubble on the setup.
Here, EVERYTHING in a reality or variety show is so rehearsed, it makes American reality TV look like heartfelt spontaneity. I've done a few shows here and it feels so dirty to portray anything as authentic. My first gig on morning TV for example had me as "Jack Russell", and as part of a quiz. "He's now popular in Japan!" "He gives soft kisses!" And junk like that. I was behind one window, a dog behind another, and a "famous" "comedian" behind the last. This huge douche in a bow tie, the "Quiz King", practices for an hour before on how to be surprised by the choices, his clever line off the top of his head, and the wacky way he will miss the question act exasperated like he can't believe it. All this time the director constantly gives feedback and yells at the King. And the dog shit everywhere.
You may think Happen is wacky and crazy on TV with guys forced to sumo wrestle when getting a question wrong or girls shrieking in few by being put in a box and being covered with lizards or some shit, it is all completely consensual and almost certainly practiced.
Other than seriously produced news presentation, never ever believe anything on Japanese TV ever.
I was on a christmas light reality show. A lot of it was accurate. Although they recorded us for a total of 6 or 7 days for roughly 20 minutes of tv time. Using what we gave them they wove a story line. The one thing that kind of irked us was that they somewhat painted us as backwoods rednecks even though we were very much city people.
This is something I posted over a year ago about the subject:
I was on a reality competition show that was on network tv. I'm not saying what show it is because we won and have yet to receive the money so I'm being cautious.
The camera crew followed us around for a couple of days while we did our activities. As they filmed us the producer would stop us every so often to have us repeat what we did or repeat what we said or ask us to go into more detail about something. After the producer found a story line to us she would try to ask us questions in relationship to that story line.
Producer : "You just mentioned that you love doing this activity as a kid, say that part again and describe how you felt about it when you were a kid" "Good now do it again but we need to get another angle on you"
When we finally watched the show we were kind of off put because they painted us to be these rednecks from the country when reality we are just from the south and live in the city.
In the end we came up with our own lines a hundred percent but were asked to repeat or emphasis quite a bit.
I was involved with an episode of MTV's Made. The person who wanted to be made into a Rockstar was going to do a battle of the bands. The producer of the show told her that when the cameras started rolling, her mentor was going to say that the speakers weren't going to make it in time and that she had to cry. She 'cried'. The speakers were in fact behind the camera man.
Not really a "reality show", but I was on a pretty popular american quiz show once. It was all real, besides the timing of episodes vs when they're taped. One week of shows is taped in a day. The "fun fact" about every contestant is picked by the host of the show, you give three examples of stuff you've done and the host picks which one he wants to talk about. It was fun, really. There's also electronic rising steps behind the podiums to even out the heights of contestants.
My dad frequents the local auction house, which has been on TV more than a couple of times, and he's confirmed something that you probably guessed- whenever something goes to auction, there are members of the crew in the audience to bid the items up. Mostly because you can tell exactly which items are with the TV show (the lot numbers often end with an a where they've been put in) so people rarely bid on them.
Also, a lot of the time, the people shown as bidding on the items are not the actual people who bid on them, since you have to sign to say you're OK with being on TV. They once had to go find my dad while he was getting a coffee next door to get him to sign.
I know someone who was on a renavation competition show.
In real life they could not chooses how they wanted to design the room, the producers did. They were basically just labour, building someone else's design.
I was on House Hunters about 10 years ago. You have to be under contract to purchase a house to get on it. I just walked around houses making fun of them (including the one under contract). They try and use houses you had looked at while deciding but not everyone wants people talking shit about the house they're trying to sell, so sometimes they pick houses for you that you're seeing for the first time. Awkward if they show you a house you like better than the one you're already buying.
RNAPII ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man, I still went to open houses after I bought myself, it was almost habit because house hunting took up so much of my life for a year (Bay Area, vicious market). It was heartbreaking seeing houses better than the one I bought. Same with houses we bid on but didn't get. It sucked.
I literally sat down with my teapot I was selling and the show went from there!
I did a 'piece to camera' where the director asked me what i was selling and why, which the expert didn't see, and then an after sale piece where I discussed what I sold and whether I was happy or not
The entire bargaining and deal scenario wasn't scripted, the money on the table was actual cash which I put in my pocket and then walked out of the room with!
A little late, but a friend of mine was on Mantracker. The show is 100% real. The cameraman run alongside the competitors, trying to hide from the mantracker. The only thing that I was told that they don't show on the show, is during the night, the cameraman runs back to where the production team is set up, and will bring back food or drink for the competitors, if they wanted it.
I went to highschool with a kid whose family got chosen for Wife Swap. It's been a while but basically he told me everything is scripted. They faked fights between the spouses and fabricated conflicts for the kids to have with the swapped mom. He said the producers had him fake cry for those room diary segments and make up bullshit about "how it was so hard."
The best part about that episode was that we all discovered his mom sold sex toys and naturally high school being the vicious zoo that it is, he caught plenty of flak for it.
I was on an episode of blind date called bikini clad bible belcher Rebekah. They tell you to act a certain way and to improv being mad or sad. Also they told Rebekah to say she wasn't into me at the end but she was. She invited me to her house for a viewing party. I had a chance but I got drunk and made out with her friend and screwed it up. It's basically bullshit improv. It was fun.
I was on an episode of "Craft Wars," a craft competition show. The producers told my partner during the competitiin to say certain things outloud like "something is wrong," or "we have a problem." It seemed as though they had premeditated drama and were playing us. Watching the actual episode on TV I realized how many voiceovers the show host did, often saying things that weren't actually said during actual filming.
Throwdown with Bobby Flay. Only thing that isn't faked it the surprise. We all figured out what it was because of the confidentiality agreement to not talk about it till he episode shows. He was nice, and chatted with the crowd and every one. If we asked a question, the camera guys wanted to know what it was first so they could film it. He lost the throwdown.
I was once on a local reality TV show that had only one season, for a few reasons, mainly because some of the viewers caught on to the harsh conditions they put us in and got upset, being that we where teenagers. It was obviously rigged, the challenges that we did where easy but built to make certain players win.
The biggest rig was the one I was eliminated on. Normally, we would vote for people to be eliminated but this was a twist and the person with the most dunks in the dunk tank would be eliminated. Before my turn came up, a few others where dunked, even though the ball didn't hit the button and the host still counted it, which obviously upset the players. When it came to my turn, the seat kept falling without anyone throwing a ball and the host was still counting it, calling it "fair play" because I was still being dunked.
I wasn't too happy, neither where my parents and my team members where arguing with the host. I took it because there was nothing that I could do or say to sway his thoughts. In a way, I'm glad that they never got to do another season but I also believe that the host and the person running it could've been replaced.
Was on one of those pawn shows. Everything is fake. Every. Single. Thing. They have a history of threatening lawsuits against people who say this sooo that's all I'm going to say.
I was on an unaired episode of House Hunters in 2010. The producers set me up with my "clients" and we went to look at about 10-15 houses that the producers hand picked. The buyers had actually purchased two months earlier, but had made no improvements. We pretended to look at their own house and had to do multiple takes explaining why the floors were bad, and then why the floors were good and so on and so forth.
The buyers then made improvements to their home and production returned to shoot the new additions, which took nearly 8 months, but it was explained that they only took a few weeks. The buyers were also facing foreclosure due to these improvements, but had to put on a brave face and pretend they were SOOOO happy with their decision.
In the end, it was decided that the couple just wasn't believable enough to make it to air. Nearly 9 months shooting and driving around and making up stories and home improvements for nothing.
Judge Judy is a very nice lady and the cases are more or less already resolved before they are even considered for tv.
Sursion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:05:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wasn't actually on the show, but I met and talked with the producer for The Amazing Race Canada. She was nice, and revealed a lot. Unlike other reality shows, it's all done in one take, and very 'real.' The camera crew has to go through a 6 month training process to prep them for the race. When you come in last and get eliminated, you get shipped off to the finish line and stay in a nice 5 star hotel until the finale is ready, so you still get a nice vacation even if you were the first one out. Also, as is standard with reality shows, you still get paid even if you don't win. You just don't get as much
I auditioned to Malaysian Idol in 2005 and got as far as the TV judges (that bit they show on TV at the beginning of any Idol show). After you audition they get you to do a short interview, yknow the mini ones where you talk about your experiences yadda yadda.
I had already done mine and was waiting for my ride to pick me up when I heard another contestant being lambasted by the TV judges for "sounding gay". Mind you, homosexuality is still illegal in Malaysia, but I thought it was really unfair that they were discriminating against a contestant like that. The producers noticed, and got me to rerecord my mini-interview, so I ranted about how homophobic they were being.
Predictably I didn't even make it on air. Not even a hint of my presence. Lost out to a Michael Jackson impersonator.
I thought it was common knowledge that all "reality" TV was either heavily guided or/and heavily edited to give whatever angle they thought would sell best. I assumed it was all "rigged" in the sense that they encouraged every participant to act a certain way and if it didn't pan out they re-shot the scene or edited it to make it work.
My friend was on some dating show for MTV and I was her "best friend" that she would gossip with. In real life, yes we did that, but for the purpose of the episode, it felt extremely forced and unnatural. The guy she was "dating" she had met earlier that week at the casting call to better their chances of getting picked for the episode. The producer knew they were basically complete strangers and helped them craft a backstory for the show. She was constantly in contact with us during the week of filming, and during our "testimonials" she would ask us questions, but then if she didn't like our answers, the producer would say "okay, but now say it this way..." or "say that exact thing again, but don't say this..." It became increasingly awkward when my friend started dating her current boyfriend literally the day they started filming for the week (this filmed like 2 years ago and they're still together) and she had to kiss this other guy and pretend they were soulmates. I work in film and television production IRL, but had never done reality tv before that, so I got some lols out of the experience. Not sure if the show ever aired, it was pretty terrible. Or maybe it did and I just don't watch enough MTV.
If anyone finds a college with a BS or MS or PHD or anything in "alien" please let me know..
ally5e ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Friend A was on a reality TV show in Denmark - just like everyone else has stated, very scripted. However, they weren't good at it as the show was pretty boring.
Friend B just tried out for the voice. She's overweight and white but has a killer jazzy, low alto voice. The producer told her she needed her voice with her (pointing to a curvy black woman) body.
imeuru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am on an Alaskan reality show.
So basically, you have a bunch of producers and people in California calling the shots, they have an idea of what their audience wants to see, so they come up with a story line and pay everyone on the cast to get the shit done. Be it huge builds, hunting trips, etc. They mic you and film you and pay everyone to do it, including materials. They then take hundreds of hours of various clips and compress them into a 12 minute story that they think will cause the most people to tune in in order to have the highest ad views possible.
I was on one of those "One relative seeks to find another relative, relative is found, relatives unite"
Basically what they show on the show is that "They meet for the first time, hug, shed some tears and then talk". What happened in reality was that there was a meeting beforehand, and the "tearful reunion" thing is fake. They then recorded us looking through photo albums and talking over dinner.
Basically what happened is that we drove to the house, met the people, then went to designated places in the house and they set up the cameras, then the "TV reunion" took place.
Furthermore, the interviews of "oh yadda I want to find my sister I haven't seen since I was 1 years of age" follow a very specific template, they ask you questions that make good TV.
When the filming was done, all of us got drunk with the producers because fucks had run out.
mub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Omg, no! This can't be. You should have kept this one a secret. How can I trust anything any more? I'm never talking to you again.
Haven't been on one but I've worked in post on a bunch. We had very strict instructions that we could amp things up but we couldn't make things out of whole cloth. We did once cut an alternate ending because...reasons. But we aired the legit ending. I actually can't think of a time on any of the series that we outright lied.
I was on a home renovation show where it seemed like they were doing me some huge favor - that I lived in some massive shit hole. At the beginning, they asked my neighbors something like, "Who has the worst house in the neighborhood?" They all responded with my name in unison.
The reality is that my house was one of the nicer ones. And the only reason I was "chosen" to have work done is because, you know, I APPLIED TO BE ON THE SHOW.
In general, the work they did was really good and it was totally worth it. The BS factor was there but minimal enough for me to not care. Simple stuff, like saying to my buddy, "Hey, can you maybe go off on how ugly his retaining wall is?"
Buddy: "Sure. Whatever you need."
Got a lot of great work done to my house. Totally worth it. But remember, kids, you gotta pay taxes on all that work. In the end I was about $4,000 to $5,000 out of pocket. But I knew that going into it, so all good.
Im a realtor I used to look up the deals from one of the million dollar listing show in LA in the local MLS and what you find is a lot of the deals don't actually close escrow even though the properties are "sold" in the show.
I know I'm pretty late to the thread but Judge Judy is more real than you would think although the court room is really small she asked me no questions (witness to the plaintiff) and you're totally allowed to lie, there's no such thing as penalty of perjury in a private arbitration.
Sat as an audience member on family feud and they most have a great edit team. Stave Harvey goes off on so many targets in the middle of a question. Also they had to have one of the family members go back and re answer the same question, once because it was not something that would be allowed on TV the other was they needed it for either a voice over or because it did not come out right the first time.
Prolyde ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Our camp was on a show that was apparently called "buying the bayou." It had already been sold when they came to film, acting like they were looking to buy.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on Oddities. Literally everything was scripted. Everything I said in the store, everything I said in the side interview including the stupid joke they made me say, and the product that I was "selling" was also handed to me when I arrived to the set. I got to get my stupid face on tv tho, so thats pretty cool.
I was part of an episode of Extreme Makeover Home Edition. The home had been designed months in advance, not spontaneously like they let.you believe. The part where they gather the neighbors together was all choreographed. But everything else was truly spontaneous and even more emotionally impactful than what you see on TV.
It was a life changing experience. Truly.
Daghain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Zing79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh the stories I could tell. I work in reality lifestyle TV.
Almost none of what you see is real.
I'm sure people have watched these things and wondered why the asshat stays on. Why the meek contestant survives. And on and on. You can literally see it coming a mile away if you've done enough of these. Ratings win. Reality is for Docs.
Producers will cast the show. Have a breakdown of story and season. And the talent on the show will be moved around to fit that original story.
But for the sake of being specific for fun - some highlights of my career:
- Watching a female talent on a Home Reno show be given an extra hour to finish a task. While the male contestants were scared into completing the task quickly and haphazardly (on time). Watching the judges coach her on how to do the task (which she didn't even know how to do). Guess which contestant won that challenge?
- Being on a show where talent were supposed to start off as spoiled brats and be exposed to sad things going on in the world. Teaching them the value of help. Making them better people. Except the shit heads were WORSE after seeing sad shit halfway around the world. You think the show reflected the reality? Heck no. It was pre-written they had to get better, so producers worked around everything they did to show "growth".
- Hearing judges say team x and y are in the bottom of a challenge this week. Only to then hear a exec producer say "but wait". Followed by crew sitting around for 2 hrs while said producer brow beat the judges until team x won.
If a exec producer smells ratings. Reality can just get the f right out. I won't even watch what I make anymore. Because I know 90% of the real, and cool stuff I shot will never make it to air
There is one standout though. The Ultimate Fighter. Totally real. Not staged. Very little interference. And especially no pre-planned outcomes with fighters. That shit is so very very real.
I had a friend's dad get called by American Pickers trying to verify that he had a particular item. While on the phone with he overheard them talking what the most they'd be willing to pay was. When they came to buy the item he priced it above their price so he'd get the most money for it. They then took the item and hid it in all of his shit so that they can film the guys "stumble" across this one of a kind item.
Guojob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend's and sister was on X Factor a few years back and actually made it decently far. In real life she's a really nice girl, but the network cut scenes over a few episodes specifically to make her out to be a bitchy, entitled drama queen type.
They even built up some fake drama between her and Demi Lovato that was never remotely there. Obviously all her friends and family had watched and many thought it was all the truth. It was sad to see a girl with such a passion for singing just get absolutely crushed for the sake of ratings.
My sister works on the set of various reality TV shows. I'll ask her for more stories, but my favourite is a show based in LA...that they actually filmed in the Philippines.
My sister made it pretty far in the auditions for for Idol. Was told that most of the auditions were pre-arranged by people's agents and that you had to be damn amazing to be one of the "undiscovered talents" they claimed to always find. Pretty much you had to have already been discovered to be considered "undiscoverable" enough for them to consider.
Another friend was a finalist on The Voice and is still (years later) in regular contact with the celeb judge who picked him. They occasionally do appearances together.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I work on reality TV shows. Everything is fake. And what isn't faked on set is faked in the edit suite for maximum drama.
Although American pickers was mostly real (at least the earlier seasons) .
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This all reminds me of what a tour guide said at universal studios when I visited. He was bubbly, fun, made a lot of jokes, and was explaining a backstage part of a set and with a snap became deathly serious and said "folks, nothing in this town is real. The shows, the life, the people."
The tour guides also make up stuff they say on the tour. And leave out things like most of the old sets burned down and what they're pointing to isn't from those old movies.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone have any input on big brother/big brother canada?
DMagis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, I live in Miami. South Beach tow is incredibly fake. In fact, one of the people on the show was my teacher in school. Its all pretty insane and I think only reinforces a lot of stereotypes
My mom worked with a certain reality show when it came into town that "built new homes" for people who needed them but couldn't afford them. In every episode, it showed the team working extremely hard to build the house, paint it, etc. within a short period of time. When it came down to actually building the house, they actually just had a pre-made house shipped to the site in pieces and they filmed it being put together and made it seem like they built the entire thing within a week. She also told me that the humble and "quirky" team members of the show who helped plan and build the house were your typical Hollywood assholes who didn't actually do anything but get paid to stand there and be the face of the show.
My mom went to the Dr. Drew show and she said you could see production giving actors questions to ask against a subject and other actors given questions for the subject. That messed me up.
See, i dont want to sound dumb, but Ive seen Jersey Shore a cpl times and know its not 100%. Only thing that i doubt is that people from Jersey are sometimes like that, especially when drunk/on drugs. I just want to know if its one of those shows that fakes everything like arguments just for views.
A friend of mine had her mom on Undercover Boss. They gave her money for my friends law school but holy hell the hoops they have to jump through to get it.
But from what she says, they're encouraged to share their sob stories, which explains the whole "opening up to a stranger" thing.
My sister was on a show like the X-Factor and America's Got Talent. The reactions not done by the judges are staged. I remember her passing, and we had to do an interview, and they told us exactly what to do.
Some of my family and some friends were on one of the MTV dating shows. They had my family invite people we knew to be some of the 'contestants'.
The dialogue was supposed to be fake except my family was apparently much funnier than the writers so most of the snarky things the parents say was just them making fun of people.
The winner was also picked basically at random.
Malt_9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:23:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of my friends best friends WON Canada's WORST driver a few years back. Like all these shows, it was completely fake. They told them what to wear and how to act. They bought wardrobes for each contestant to make them into sterotypical people, told them how to talk and act... Most people know that this stuff is pretty much fake but that show was 100% scripted and fake. Im pretty sure they still make it too.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:37:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everything you say.
Even if you said it, and you came up with it, the time you say it on the show was a do-over cause they didn't get you saying it the first time.
Also, just cause someone says soemtbing doesn't mean they said it. They will edit you into saying whatever they want you to say.
jvawter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:53:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've worked on several reality shows; a lot of stuff is rigged, scripted and/or twisted in favor of what the producers think will have higher ratings. Most of the time the producer is standing just off camera coaching the talent on what to say and how to react. It's also safe to assume that even candid moments have been shot 2 or 3 times.
On a show about people who've been dating online for years finally meeting in person, talent was coached to say they were married and the other was coached to say they had cheated multiple times. Talent was never allowed to be alone together so that they wouldn't know what the other was going to say and would have genuine reactions. We also staged a house for the local talent to appear more well-off than he actually was.
On a show about hotel renovations, only 1 hotel room is renovated with production covering all expenses. If the owners like the renovations, the production will give them a copy of the design book with all the paint swatches, furniture names, etc. so they can renovate other rooms at their own expense.
On a show about losing weight, the diary camera entries are 100% scripted and a lot of them are recorded back-to-back with just a wardrobe change. A lot of the surgeries are not fully covered by the production. Talent is required to come up with a certain amount of money upfront before even being selected for the show, the production company then pays for a percentage of the total costs while their legal team negotiates with the talent's insurance company for the remaining costs. In the end, if the insurance company won't cover it - which most don't since it's elective surgery - the talent is stuck with the bill.
On a nationwide talent search show, only a certain amount of actually talented people are selected because production needs to have room for people who are amusing due to oddities or untalentedness. The judges are only there for show and are essentially puppets for the producers.
I think it's sad that on talent search shows people who honestly deserve to make it farther don't get the chance if they don't have a sob story or don't have some quirk about them.
I know a couple that was on a house hunting show. The application process took so long that they already found a place. The film crew set up in their apartment, and shot a bit there of them giving impressions of their own apartment. Then they shot a couple of those in other apartments/houses. Then my friends 'picked' their own apartment.
Turns out an application process might take a couple of months and usually people don't have half a year during which they can crash on their friends couch while they wait for a producer to call then back.
exit6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:15:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My wife and I were on "A Baby Story" and filmed an episode of Supernanny that thankfully got shut down 3/4 the way through. Baby Story was pretty real, although they did fake some stuff. Like they shot the doctor talking about something after the baby was actually born, or they filmed my parents a couple days after it went down, things like that. They told me that they'd faked entire births before though, when something unexpected happened.
Supernanny was subtle about how they controlled the narrative. They had a story they wanted to tell and they tried to get you to go along. That said Jo Frost really does know her shit, she could read people like nobody I've ever seen before or since.
I didn't want to be one of these guys but "not me but..."
Met some people at a wedding whose own wedding had been on "Don't Tell the Bride".
I can't remember all the details but basically the schedule was relentless, the whole affair ended up costing them shitloads anyway because of the time they had to take off work, transport and food, which the show didn't provide. The show rejected loads of their wedding ideas before they accepted one. And yes, their ideas. The bride not having any clue what it will be is staged. They had their ideas rejected for being too 'normal'. Needed to be weirder. They ended up suggesting pretty much arbitrary, Caribbean theme, steel drums, girls in feathers, neither bride nor groom were that in to it, just seemed like something fun, acceptable for the show, and not too awful.
The groom and his best man (twin brother), got in a bit of a scrap (not with each other) on the stag do. The brother also fell over and hit his face on a door, so was badly bruised and stuff. They heavily edited it to make it look like the groom and his brother had fought each other and the groom had battered him.
A bit late to the party, but we sold our house to a couple and then the couple was approached by House Hunters or a similar show. They showed they three houses, including ours, and of course in the end they chose ours (which they already bought)
Super late to this but two of my friends were on MTV's Made a few years ago.
They got sent to Australia for some bullshit trying to 'learn to live without each other' and all that. On the show it claimed that they were inseparable and couldn't live without each other and that they had to always be together at all times and do everything with eachother. It's not far from the truth, but the show made everything so over the top and ridiculously not like them. It was super scripted and almost everything was made up. They made them act like really weird white girls, they are super chill and nothing like what the show made them out to be.
My buddy Kenny and my friend Dan's girlfriend Jess are in it too.
Dont have been in one but they did a little documentary in germany where it came out that in the show "Supernanny" ,the nanny let a kids dog get put down to create drama.
A friend was on that Beauty and the Geek. He said the entire show is fake. Everyone is fed lines, the Geeks have to be 1980's Geeks and speak exactly like them and certain ones get a certain trait just to help make them look more pathetic.
The girls aren't all idiots, some are, but the others are very intelligent but they're basically yelled at to act dumber and read the script or get fucked.
The whole show is set up for certain "contestants" to win. Everyone else is just there for a paycheck that isn't really worth the stress.
Hi there, I was on season 5 of beauty and the geek Australia. Imo heavily rigged and influenced. Lasted until the final episode. Any win is suspect as no independent verification (seldom see other competitors doing challenges) relationships heavily influenced. All cue cards used by the host are blank. Competitors are deliberately sleep deprived to increase drama. Hosts and producers will do anything to keep their plans going smoothly and will use any info to their advantage.
In a talent show, the audience clapping is NOTHING BUT A LIE! The producer signals when it's time to clap instead of them clapping because they like the act. LIES! LIES I TELL YOU!
I was on a cooking show that visits local dining establishments. Local hole in the wall kind of places. The entire show was set up. Almost all of the dialogue was fed to the patrons. The host wasn't even in during the shoot. The food was all cold and dishes matching certain patrons had been decided all before hand. They tell you what to say and how to act. I'd say 80% of what the patrons said on camera was fed directly to them by the producers. It took 3 hours to shoot a 10 minute segment. It's amazing how they stitch it all together and make it seem organic and natural. The hosts hair is the only obvious fake.
Aeleas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:50:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At first I thought it was a show about huge breasts.
MrYake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:41:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Worked at a auction place in Canada and they had shot an episode of "baggage battles". The people on the show get to walk around the shop before the public and take multiple shots to get it right. They also know which bags are good and even put in jewellery and cash in them before. The only real part was the auction where the public could outbid them.
squigs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:54:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Scapheap Challenge/Junkyard Wars
There was actually quite a lot of information about these shows in Robert Llewellyn's book.
They do seed the heap (I think this is obvious). They also remove anything that might be too useful.
There are other people to help them. Usually it's the show's engine expert that gets the engines working.
The shot of them running to their areas is reshot several times.
They lie a little about available time. The first half of the hours last 45 minutes each. The later ones last longer. Plus they're not remotely strict about the 10 hour time limit (sometimes they hint about this with comments about the sun setting early).
The challenge is 2 days after the build is complete. The production team will test the machines and make modifications - usually for safety.
On the whole though it is fairly honest. The teams do build the devices mostly by themselves, mostly in the time allocated and the actual challenges are honest.
An old friends mom was on that crazy show Doomsday Preppers.
Come to find out, the show and the people are crazy on purpose. Yes she is a little out there, but nothing like what the show made her out to be. They have them do really dumb shit and say dumb shit on purpose.
Like the episode she was the star in, they had her build a catapult for "protection." Nobody would ever actually use it, but the producers told her it is for entertainment value. That the show is for entertainment and not about serious prepping.
She said duck it and went through it because they give you a whole bunch of prepping gear and food. Free shit just to make an ass of yourself for a little bit isn't so bad. She just wishes they would have been more serious about the show rather than going out of their way to make Preppers seem like batshit crazy people.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are some serious preppers out there though who make crazy weapons theyd actually use.
wimaine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:55:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone here ever been on one of the Gordon Ramsay shows? Kitchen Nightmares, Hotel Hell or Hell's Kitchen? What were those like?
I live in New Hampshire and there was a outdoor realty type show where they have "pretty people" to running an obstacle course made from trees and mud and stuff. Basically people that would not normally be out in nature and stuff. This was all filmed in the White Mountain area up here. They had a decent size crowd watching the filming of the show. They had a few of the dolled up girls and guys run the mud course a few times to get different camera angles and shots. They even had a shower on site so the contestants can clean up and do the course again.
Was in an audience for 'beauty and the geek, Australia'. Very very scripted. The episode was of the beauty and the geek who had to make speeches about each other. After each person made a speech, the crew would quickly re-watch the footage to see if it needed to be re-filmed or if they could continue to the next person. Whilst they were watching this, the contestants of the show would be smoking, showing each other photos or even taking photos on their phones, gossiping etc. When they needed to do a re-take, the producer would tell them what to say or do to improve the take.
My knowledge of reality TV came crashing further when I knew someone who works with the Australian bachelor from a few seasons back. Each week a girl is eliminated from the contest. He said that to make it look like a week had gone by, they got the girls and bachey to change into a new set of clothes and do their hair a different way to make it look like the following week's elimination. They filmed 3 weeks worth of eliminations in one go. The producers also asked bachey not to eliminate some of the girls as they would definitely boost ratings with their quirky personality.
I was surprised to find the leaves in a wooded area scene were fake. They lay down this stuff that's quieter.
They let you talk and make dialogue freely but will constantly interrupt and tell you to do or say something different. And you have to fake it the second or third time.
Also I was very surprised they (mtv) let people drink whatever they wanted. Teens were drinking their ass off and no one ever asked or checked or cared. It was all on tape. They didn't give a damn.
What's the show that remodels your "failing" restaurant from the ground-up? I know that one's real because they came and wildly altered a highly beloved local restaurant in my home town that had been around since the 50's. The menu changed from kind of a mom & pop pizza/light Italian place to a restaurant that serves lobster--in the suburbs of Flint. It lasted about two weeks after that show came in.
EDIT: This makes for a more interesting read if you know that the reason the place had been in a slump for the last remaining years was because the owner's wife took over ownership after their divorce, and she very clearly had no idea what she was doing.
I've always wondered about House Hunters and House Hunters International. People always see just 3 houses, and none of them match their expectations, and it always seems as if the realtor picks random houses, and then the couple always pick the home that did not have any furniture in it. Almost always that exact same pattern.
I was on Jeremy Kyle, which is like the UK's answer to Maury.
I was on as support for my Mum, who was (is) a heroine addict and was looking for Jeremy to send her to rehab. (this was my mother's second appearance on the show, the first time was like 10 years prior for the same thing. My first appearance, I was too young the first time.)
I basically just talked about how I can't have a relationship with her while she's high and once I start having children I'll have to cut her out of my life because I wont have drugs (and all the drama it brings) around my kids.
I don't know if I'd say the show was rigged, but for days before we went to film it, they would call and ask us to talk about her, once they called at 2AM!! but they were trying to get us to say nasty stuff, and on the show they would read things we'd "said", but they took things out of context, or worse, cut chunks out so it sounded worse.
My Mum and Nan both said the people were trying to get them riled up, like they wanted one of them to come out shouting. We didn't really talk to Jeremy, when we were on stage, it was the first time we actually saw him and when they had "breaks" he would just sorta sit there and he would talk to the audience.
They also kept my mum separate from us before the show, and the worst part was they didn't even send her to rehab.
They sent her to a detox for like, less than a week, and then they sent her home in a taxi alone, and she was still out of it from the sedatives they gave her (to deal with the withdrawals). She wasn't even dressed properly, she had no underwear on. She took a bag of clothes with her, and none of it had been touched, she was dressed (barely) in the clothes she went there in, and they weren't even clean.
There was no aftercare. It didn't help her at all.
So yeah. It was a bullshit waste of time, and an embarrassment.
But we did get to stay in a hotel, and didn't have to pay for anything the whole time, which is always nice.
The guy I had a child with had 2 women pregnant at the same time. They got us all there to talk about it and wanted us all to say what they wanted and to argue, fight, cry....
It was such a shit show. I was young and naive and I shouldn't have gone in the first place. I was just taking advantage of a free trip to NYC!
Family friend was on Big Brother and won. He did get a hefty chunk of money for winning. I don't believe it was entirely scripted, though. I'd have to ask my mom.
which winner? i do know Big brother is farily real, i do know that producers prod the contestants in the diary room to try and get reactions and cause paranoia to maybe start a fight or showmance.
Anyone know how real the show "Extreme Weight Loss" is? I feel like it's what "Biggest Loser" should be, focusing on one person at a time (or a few - I guess they film several episodes at once), and trying to actually teach that person how to eat and lose weight to be healthy. I like how this is done over a year, and not just a few months.
Yes, I think you're right. We have no idea who got the deal, so they can't take it away.
g_tea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't know if this exactly counts, but a friend of mine is a violin player and was in a string quartet in one of the "dates" on The Bachelor. She said that they film the same scenes multiple times, to get the perfect reactions to the date, etc. It is real per se, but by the 5th of 6th take of the scene, it becomes far less real...
I was on an Australian academic show that pitched kids from various public schools from around my state against each other to win some cool prizes and stuff. My school was from a pretty shitty area but all the kids my school took with them were all the nerdy kids so we felt pretty cool. The host was (still is) a pretty popular morning show host and hosts a couple of other shows for the network, and he pretty much completely ignored us when we weren't being quizzed for the actual filming. It took so long to film because the show films a week's worth of episodes in one day, so we have 5 lots of 3 kids for each day of the week, and we were ushered into tiny holding rooms with no windows for about 10 hours all up. It was really cool though, my school got to the grand finale and got some cool equipment for my campus and we got some cool stuff too. The funniest part though was the host just came round to us and handed us signed photos of himself, none of us even asked.
kazky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:49:35 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So I'll add a little bit I'm not going crazy here;
I always laugh when I watch somebody walk through a door in a reality show, we DREADED doors and tried to avoid them at all costs; mainly because it took like 3 minutes to walk into another room.(they filmed you walking in from the outside then you had to walk back outside and walk in the door again so they can film from the other side.
There was a lot of planned activities, but there was nothing forced. They would make us goto a certain place or have a celebrity just happen to pop up but other than that whatever happened happened.
Obviously when you have cameras on you people flock to you, especially chicks. Sometimes we would go out with the producers after we filmed and have them run the cameras with no film, it was the ultimate pick up line and it always worked.
If you said something interesting the producers would make you repeat in like 5 times in like 3 different ways, it was really annoying and ruined the flow of a natural conversation quite often. For example:
Friend: last night was fun!
Me; I liked that!
Producer: cut say it again
Friend: the bar was cool!
Me: yeah you drank too much
Producer: cut, more nouns and verbs
Friend: the other night when we went to the bar I had so much fun!
Me: a few days ago when we went out to club x you drank way too much.
Producer: once more
Me and friend: fuck you.
Someone I graduated from high school with was on the US version of Undercover Boss. If anyone watches the show and remembers the episode about Sky Zone, he was on that episode (he works at the Sky Zone location in Westborough if you have seen or ever see that episode). Long story short, I am friends with this person on facebook and follow him on Instagram. All I know is that he sat right next to the glass at a Boston Bruins Hockey game and flew to LA, if I remember right, to help shoot some videos for Sky Zone, like the CEO had promised him. He didn't post anything about what it was like being on camera or anything like that but at least I know that the CEOs featured on the show reward their employees.
I was invited to be on Steve Harvey's Talk Show in Chicago.
Briefly, girl friend and I broke up. She was upset and went on Steve Harvey's official Facebook page and clicked a link on their website and submitted our break up story that they had requested as a topic of discussion for their next episode.
The agent for Steve contacted my ex about the break up and wanted to fly us both up to Chicago. I turned it down however kept in touch with the agent.
They had contacted me if I would just go in independently and do the show. I said I would consider if all expenses were paid. Here were the show ideas they had me pick from...
Tell a girl I had a crush on them since forever and tell them over the show.
Invite 5 of my exes to the show and have them tell me where I screwed up.
Have exes dunk me in a water tank.
I decided not to go through with it.
As much as I love Steve Harvey, I'm sure that the show would weigh a little bit of bias. I'm sure if you can hold your own, Steve would back you up but not worth it.
I was on a travel channel rip off of Diners Drive Ins and Dives. The restaurant had us there from 8am until 2pm and we had to pay for all our own food and drinks (German beer garden). 90% of the shots they set up were not used. Also the show was supposed to be about take out food but this place didn't do to go orders... So strange! We kept trying to buy the host a beer but he kept deflecting and wouldn't accept one.
They tape a lot of shows near where I live and it's all fake. My parents were on one of these sell your house shows on HGTV. They were basically told what to say.
I hate most TV these days. The shows are fake and they spend 3/4 of each segment recapping what happened before the commercial break.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:24 on July 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of my friends was on The Price Is Right and before the episode they told everyone who would go up and in what order. Everything else is real.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:55 on July 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that doesn't make any sense. It's based on bids
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:23 on July 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's based on bids?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:47 on July 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
bid
the price is right. You bid for something to be worth so much. The one closet to the retail price goes up to spin the wheel. That's not rigged
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:09:15 on July 30, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They tell everyone who will go up to bid before the start of the game
My bro was on Hillbilly Handfishing. He said it was pretty real, the was lot of editing to make it look more exciting. The fish just lay in a hole, they grab them and put them back in the holes so they mostly keep catching the same ones over and over. They said the hosts of the show were cool guys and the crew was laid back, very pleasant experience.
Looks like all the top responses in this thread were jacked word-for-word, and used to make this "article"
possyis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:06:23 on July 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I had a super-bit (as in super-small-sized) on an episode of My Super Sweet 16. I performed as a member of a performance group that went to a different school of pretty much everyone else.
1) This was a rumor told to me by numerous people involved: The best friend of the girl was actually not the girl's best friend. Her real best friend was considerably short and the producers didn't think she'd come off well on screen so they had her choose a different friend instead to be her companion on screen. I had no way to prove or disprove this but it's stuck with me since then.
2) MTV only provides the camera crew and producers to help book events, but pretty much everything else is paid for by the parents. The "Expensive Car" given as presents to the kids are usually just rentals for the show.
3) I only had two interactions with the birthday girl: One day to record us "practicing" in front of her house and right before the performance. I still haven't seen the episode but I know they have a tendency to make the kids look like total asshats. While I probably wouldn't have been this girl's friend due to cliques, she was totally sweet and nice for the brief time I saw her. Felt bad when I tried to leave after my performance and had the dad stop me with big puppy-dog eyes asking me to stay and enjoy the party. So I don't know how they were portrayed on the show but they all were totally cool in my interactions.
4) No one on set cares for your signed waiver saying they can use your likeness on tv if you're a bit part. Since I was under 18 I had to get my parent's permission to appear and instead signed "Donald Duck" on the paper 4 times (god was I a lame). We were only a small group and I saw them looking through the papers so it wasn't that hard to miss, but I was never stopped for it. They might've taken it out on the band's leader though and I'd hate to think that he did because they could have easily contacted me.
I was on a well known TLC show about people who are addicted to odd things. Mine was about an obsession with the scent of a certain floor and multisurface cleaner made with the oil of pine trees. First thing, I had to try and recall a painful or traumatic event from either adulthood or childhood that made me me do this. I had none, except for as a kid always loved the smell of almost pure pine oil my mom would mop our way out of our summer cottage each weekend in summer, since pine repels bugs. Always I would purposely leave a book from the library inside, so I could run in and give it a couple deep whiffs. That was not dramatic enough for the producers, so we had to add that my divorce was painful and contributing, despite the fact that my husband was on the show and we lรฎved together still, a fact viewers commented on too, since my soon to be ex huband stated thst that he stll cared for me and my health. My 5 bottles of pine cleaner wasn't enough for them, so they went out and bought 20 more. I cracked a joke about how I should just put some on a surgical mask so id have my hsnds free. They thought shots of me doing that would be great. One problem was I woke that day with a migraine, and didn't want to smell pine at all. So they went ad got the masks, and Arizona ice tea. Thats what I was sniffng the rest of that show tll we were done sniffng in my house during that days filming.. my 'big reveal' to my best female friend at a coffee shop was total popppycock. She knew about my pine fixation aready. Same with my mom and dad. Oops. None of us are good liars either. For what its worth, I got paid for the show. Nobody else dd though.
Extreme Home Makeover.... it wasn't my house but my mom's boyfriend's neighbor at the time. And I work as a caregiver so there was this big wheelchair event since the kid whose home was being remodeled was in a wheelchair. The host....i forget his name, and the designers were barely there. I spent 7 hours outside on a hot day doing this wheelchair thing for filming, and they didn't stick around to even meet with people for more than 15 minutes. They literally filmed their small scenes and left.
Did meet and fool around with a hot security guy though. That was real.
The contest itself and the challenges/voting you see on TV are not staged or scripted, but much of the drama and interactions between the contestants is completely fabricated or scripted by producers.
Also, the contestants bathe daily in real showers and are given protein bars/meal replacements off screen when they are shown to be starving or living on some kind of mush. You can't have everyone looking like homeless people on TV, even if they are supposed to be stranded out in the woods.
The producers obviously know who is going to make the final four/win before the show airs, and they edit it to make the winner a fan favorite or fan hated character to tell an interesting story.
They did a show about that once. They give them enough nutrition to meet their daily requirements but they aren't very filling or tasty. As the producer said, watching people starve and be emaciated on television is not good programming.
I've heard the opposite about the bathing from a survivor Cameraman who did a verified AMA a few years ago. He said everyone was given sunscreen and the women were given hygiene products but that's about it (and I want to say razors as well but I'll have to find the thread). In one of the seasons he worked on one of the contestants had an "accident" during one of the challenges. I don't believe the accident was aired, but you'll notice the contestant's shorts change colour to a drab brown for the rest of his time on the show. Much to the dismay of the other contestants and the crew, he could only rinse out his shorts in the ocean to the best of his ability.
I think it probably varies by season too. Some seasons they probably want to focus on the struggle between the tribes so will give them more nutrition and perks so they have time to focus on each other and not on surviving. Others they want it to be a struggle to survive so you get less drama but more struggle.
Gffcom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:13:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know a guy who knew this girl whose brother was on "The Apprentice". It turns out that whole "Donald Trump is a super successful businessman and a classy guy" thing was just clever editing.
Some of my buddies are writers for keeping up with the Kardashians. Apparently when they told Bruce they wanted him to become a woman he was super pissed and walked off the set and they had to throw him an extra $750,000.
Heybun ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:13:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can smell the bullshit all the way down from South America. If this were remotely true they would have sold this story to any tabloid for millions lf dollars. Not tell it for free to a redditor friend
Gus100k ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Please elaborate on this. Are you insinuating that the writers of the Kardashians influenced Bruces sex change
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:02:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They didn't tell us what to say, but they would put us in situations we wouldn't have been in.
ssw228 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went to high school with one of the housewives of Atlanta type daughters. The daughter was having a carnival graduation theme which was spun to be a huge surprise with tons of close friends. In reality, the daughter on the show handed out invitations to all students (freshman to seniors) and teachers. There were so many invites that on the last day of school they were scattered all over the hallways. The party played repetitive carnival music that was enough to make people go crazy. The whole party was just a backdrop for the families to script their little kids into doing things. It was uncomfortable but eye opening. If it's too good to be true, it's too good to be true.
A producer for Comic book Men on AMC contacted me because I had an interesting item on eBay they wanted me to bring to the shop. It was a Chewbacca toy and apparently it was for an episode where Peter Mayhew was going to be on. So of course it's scripted, but what really shocked me was that I had to pay for travel there, had to pay for housing and would not get paid for even being on the show. So it was essentually me paying AMC to make money.
And I've met Peter Mayhew before so it was not worth it for the experience.
69sucka ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:08:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
glad you opted out of that one. reality tv is popular with networks because it's so cheap to produce. they had money to fly you out and put you in a hotel...believe me.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As much money as they're making from TWD, yeah they (AMC) had the money to fly OP out.
My brother in law is a cameraman for House Hunters International, and he told me that it's pretty much all predetermined. The people already have a house they're purchasing, then the show finds two other houses that correlate with said house.
My time to shine. A friend was on House Hunters, and get this: the house is never actually bought. Every house the realtor shows is houses of the friends of your choosing, and they want you to take 2 weeks off work to go around pretending to be needing a new house. Terrible.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's almost all rigged.
Every so often, a reality star will spill the beans, and then a week later their youtube channel is gone, their blog is gone, and they're being sued in court for violating a non-disclosure agreement.
They're all rigged.. one way or another. Alaskan Bush People is the worst one.. The Browns couldn't survive a night in Central Park.. Alone..
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:56:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They were making a show that was similar to The Voice but was called The Choice. It ended up airing but they basically shortened it because it was so bad. It was that somebody would pitch themselves to a group of celebrities and then the celebrity would click the button if they wanted to go on a date with them.
I had some pro snowboarder guy come into my work with the girl who he chose to go on a date with. I worked at a trampoline park while I was in High School and they decided to have their date there. I was the one showing them around while they were on the date. This was the day I learned everything was fake. Literally the people with the cameras told them when to do everything, what to say, how to act. I was super pumped because, hey, I was going to be on TV. But then the show was so bad that they ended up cutting the show down and not even showing the date parts. =[
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They were making a show that was similar to The Voice but was called The Choice.
Oof. That was so bad. They just took the chairs from the Voice. I'm glad it didn't last, because the concept was limited, at best.
Let's say my place of work hosted most famous car show in the world. The filming lasted about 2 hours repeating the same thing and failing every time. In the aired episode they showed it as full success
Perhaps not precisely what you're looking for, but a friend was on Dr Phil. They made her cut her mohawk and take out her piercings and dressed her in a disgusting skirt-suit and did some filming out the house... but they had no idea what was actually going to happen on the show. Turns out what happened was Dr Phil gave her parents the honeymoon they never had, 150k towards a new home, and 30k towards appliances and furniture.
I've edited 3 reality shows. Every scene is planned and controlled. Anything that doesn't fit the required storyline is just edited in a way to make it work.
ITT: I learned that cutting my own cord was the best god damn decision I've ever made. Fake TV is okay but fake, unoriginal, racy, and borderline insulting TV trying to be passed of as reality is just disgusting. And as I have now learned, it's everywhere. Not saying the Internet is perfect but the shit some reality shows create is worse than forced love triangles in big movie titles.
DMagis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every reality show featuring a gaggle of women is fake. The storylines are mapped out and pre-written
When I was about 9 me and my dad competed on robot wars.
My dad spent about a year making a robot, he's not a mechanic or anything he just really wanted to take me on the show because I loved it at the time. We entered a big old piece of shit and lost the match by being smashed to pieces and set on fire, obviously being 9 and expecting us to win I was heartbroken and sobbing.
Literally the moment after we lost the producers asked us to film a bit they air before the match where you say how you're gonna win and smash the other teams robot to pieces blah blah, they usually do it before you go on but they did it after we'd been beaten for some reason. They had to film it about 3 times because I was clinging on to my dad and crying, they gave up on me after the third take and aired it anyway
I tried to find it on YouTube but no luck, we have it on VHS somewhere. Those producers fucking hated me
As grateful as I am that my dad took me on there, I'm way too embarrassed to say ๐ญ
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:35:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't the point of a reality show to precieve it as real, but it's ultimately scripted. . Why would anyone think that it's genuine. Why would anyone care if it's real, nothing on TV is authentic, it's all a form of entertainment. After the mid 90s TV stopped being a outlet for information and just became a outlet for entertainment. There is no part of a reality show that is "real" , they all have casting calls, interviews, writers, a production team to guide for best results.
I definitely haven't been on Iron Chef but i love watching and reading interviews of people who have been on these types of shows. From my understanding Iron Chef is pretty real, the biggest thing that helps the contestants along is the fact that they get told what the mystery ingredient could be before the show starts. They get a list of like five ingredients and one of those will be the secret. That's why they always immediately know what to start cooking as soon as the timer starts.
Yeah, some people were "shocked" a few years back when someone wrote about Iron Chef for a newspaper or blog, and it was made known that the contestant chooses the Iron Chef in advance, and only that chef is present during filming. Like, at the beginning of an episode, when all the "chefs" are standing on the pillars? There's just one Iron Chef; the others are all stand-ins. Because Mario Batali and Cat Cora have better things to do with their time than stand on a stage to hear Bobby Flay's name get called out.
When the article was released and the Internet raged, I was like "WTF?!? Do these people not know how TV works?"
And that right there is why they have to be so tight lipped about what is real and what isn't. Some minor detail gets released and people lose their minds.
Anybody watch or been on Choccy-Wokky-Doo-Daa in the UK,I could watch that balding woman make chocolatey treats for Whoopi Goldberg all goddamn day !
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:20:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Choccy-Wokky-Doo-Daa in the UK
I haven't got the scoop, but as an American, I think it's cute there's a show about chocolate on UK tv called "Choccy-Wokky-Doo-Daa".
neffs ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:32:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I cba to read all the comments but I bet the Pimp My Ride Jackhammer soul eater is in here seeing as it was a few days since he did his last appearance on IAmA.
I know a few singers in my area that have been through the Voice and X(mas single) Factor, and pretty much what has already been said is on par with their recollections. Fuck TV in general. The stars of most of the small UK daytime shows are cunts too. That orange twat, what's his name... Dickinson? Horrible bloke.
My family have been round a few of the sports guys and reporters, the worst being that John McCririck bloke. He's nothing more than an archaic tweed wearing dickhead who happens to believe in the old world where belittling women is pretty much par for the course.
My grandad was Mayor of a South Yorkshire city, and was into his horse racing. He met John quite often. Even while my granddad was wearing his garb my gran would be spitting feathers at McCririck being a chauvinist and generally belittling women in general when they got home.
You never see the real life behind the person in front of the camera, it's always paint by numbers and editing, just for views. Youtube is doing a good job of emulating it in a roundabout way.
Never been on one, but used to watch Ice Road Truckers and it just got so apparent that stuff was played up it wasn't worth it. Oh, and truckers don't constantly blow their horns like they always put in.
Oh, does anyone believe the old story from the first Survivor of them taping on a soundstage next to where they were recording Price is Right?
Oh, does anyone believe the old story from the first Survivor of them taping on a soundstage next to where they were recording Price is Right?
No one who knows anything about Survivor believe them.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend who went on Naked and Afraid. On the show the "contestants" are allowed to bring one item with them. Yeah, the item she wanted to bring was rejected and instead they gave her something that just made her seem like a dumbass. The whole episode was a set-up, in so many ways. That is just one example because I don't want her to get in trouble for talking about it.
I always assume that the producers of Master Chef and Hell's Kitchen are behind the scenes rigging the oven temperatures without the contestants knowing; their food is always raw, and they look really confused about it.
Same thing with the Amazing Race, the producers are in there somehow telling certain taxi drivers to take a wrong turn, or having airplanes get delayed.
nda's are definitely real, not sure I'd trust anyone in here. but reddit has good sorry tellers, and some of those might have in-sight
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think NDA's are nullified with anonymity.
The companies can try and prove who is here spilling the beans, but unless they have access to reddit's logs and ISP records, they are shit out of luck.
MHM5035 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:35:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Many reality shows have writers. They have the contestants do whatever challenge is planned and film everything. Then they make up a story using the footage they have. Sometimes they even have people "re-film" things.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
While I believe that to be true, the question was for people with first-hand experience. Have you been on a show? If so, what was the experience like?
Even though everyone knows this, the maury show is fake. Only evidence I have is a friend* (We live in west virginia. Every one knows eachother whether we like it or not) who was on that show with his wife, something about a divorce or what ever. Their still together and are perfectly fine telling everyone how much they got paid.
Yurei2 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:59:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Literally every single thing is scripted. It's just shot and acted to make it look like it isn't.
Qender ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:33:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I worked on a "reality" web series that consisted of us writing a rough outline, then asking the actors to improvise and figure out the challenges. The actors just sat there and asked us to write them lines for everything so we did.
Everything, and nothing. It is so easy to tell any story with enough editing that there is no need to stage anything. See this example for how it works.
xpoc ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:27:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Almost every reality show that followers skilled workers is fake (fishermen, ice truckers, loggers, whatever).
They always have some bullshit reason that they need to work against the clock. "The client needs this car for a motor show tomorrow. We need it completed by 9am or it will cost us big time". In reality the car was ordered three months earlier and the motor show isn't until the end of the year. The fake time limit adds drama to what is usually a very boring job.
Every time something breaks or goes wrong it's grossly over exaggerated too. A worker will break the crane or whatever and the boss will act like it's a huge problem to fix. *Cue the dramatic music and angry bleeped swearing from the boss. In reality it's usually a minor fault that occurs all the time and can easily be repaired.
The fuck-up is usually caused by the owners son or the youngest member of the team - someone who is constantly edited to look like a dumbass in search of his bosses approval.
I don't work in reality TV, but I see the same basic storyline whenever I watch these shows.
pbspry ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:58:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't technically on a reality TV show, but had someone from a major production company try to recruit me onto one a few months ago. It was one of those "test your knowledge" kind of shows with a celebrity panel and the producer flat out told me they would give me the list of questions ahead of time because they "wanted me to succeed." I politely declined.
So I just assume now that all of these shows are pretty much rigged.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
reality tv is the cancer of tv
my least favourite show has to be kenny vs spenny. it's so cringy how scripted and fake it is. yet kenny assures us it's real. which annoys me even more.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My old cable trainer was a professional boxer, he had been on ESPN and the like. He boxed for the USAF, and before The Contender was known, he was supposed to be the original winner. He spent months talking to producers and crap about how it was going to go down, he was the boxer pre-chosen to win the entire TV show.
The general of his base (Vandenberg AFB, CA) pulled the plug because it was 'bad publicity' for the USAF, the day before he was to drive to LA for the show. In reality, it was modern racism, my trainer is black, the general didn't like it, and completely fucked him over for it.
Of course, they would let them. But the producers say they are stopping them for their own safety. They will say anything to make them stay. The guy that tried to escape was highly intoxicated, and because production supplied the booze, if he got out and got hurt, it would be totally on the production company. They can't let that happen.
Sally had a mild scandal when it was revealed that she used the same couple as 3 separate couples on the show on different episodes, disguised and with new issues.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 20:22:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On every single court show all of the plaintiffs and defendants are actors. They are given an outline of their case and their characters ahead of time and a run through the scenario. None of those people or cases are real.
db__ ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 22:18:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: "my friend's sister's cousin's friend was on ${show}"
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seriousrepliesonly ยท 813 points ยท Posted at 00:45:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
My friend was on What Not to Wear, and I was in the audience of people who were there to react when she came out from behind the curtain with her new look. She came out over and over again, but our cheering was never enthusiastic enough for the producers. After about 10 takes, we were screaming our heads off, totally hysterical, as if we'd just seen her rise from the dead. So that part was fake; I thought she just looked alright.
Lucky1289 ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 10:55:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I submitted an AMA request for someone who was on that show years ago...I have so many questions! I was obsessed with that show back in high school.
M0ri3 ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 15:58:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you
myeveryone's sister?Dr_0wning ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 07:33:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't understand why this isn't more upvoted. This made me LOL hard.
beefnachosftw ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:03:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree. This is the first one I've really laughed at in this thread. Rise from the dead indeed.
LeiPewPew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:09:19 on July 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, I'm lying in bed next to my sleeping boyfriend trying not to wake him up with laughter. Too funny.
delmar42 ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 16:48:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll never understand Staci's obsession with pointed toe shoes. Sure, they give you an elongated look, but they're horrifically uncomfortable. Why try to force your foot into a tapered, pointed shape like that? Nope.
LadyKnightmare ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 18:00:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hated the fact that Staci basically just re-dressed every woman in a slightly different version of what she liked to wear herself.
Some of the clothes they had should have been re-purposed, and paired with nicer plain items. I watched them ditch a lot of really cute statement pieces that could have been bitchen with simple accessories.
Fucks sake Staci, your threads ain't that fly.
What Not to Wear aka How to Dress Like Staci.
neutron_stars ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 18:07:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe this is another thing that is just faked for the show, but they also throw things away regardless of sentimentality or purpose. There was an episode I saw with a woman who was a huge Chicago Blackhawks fan and owned a couple jerseys (I think one was even signed by the player). Instead of letting her keep them to wear to games, Clinton and Staci threw them out then at the end, "compromised" by framing one of them.
irulethelemons ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 20:18:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Iirc, there was a contestant on reddit who said she was actually allowed to keep a lot of stuff, and half the show was scripted.
LadyKnightmare ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:23:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hope they don't actually throw the clothes away, some of that shit is SUPER expensive!
chlorinatemyworld ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:46:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, as a girl with size 12 feet, I definitely do NOT want to emphasize their hugeness.
drinkscocoaandreads ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:55:48 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amen to that.
TribalDancer ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:36:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on the foot and the shoe, of course. Most of the pointy toe shoes are much longer than a typical shoe, so the toe box is fairly normal, and then it tapers after that.
All-in-all, if you have a narrow foot, even the ones which taper sooner won't feel bead. If you have a wide foot, don't even try!
peelit ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:22:17 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also- why cut off everyone's hair?!
Wafflespro ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:14:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That show makes me cringe so hard
polarberri ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:18:55 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can't stop giggling at your description! Well put x]
seriousrepliesonly ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:54:48 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was exactly like that, too.
Thanks!
Jenny-Thalia ยท 5026 points ยท Posted at 17:36:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Sob stories on singing shows - it's not the contestant's fault!
I made it through a few rounds for a well known singing show and they BEG you for sob stories. on my very first application form, I was asked about the most difficult moment in my life, what obstacles I'd overcome to be there, had I ever experienced bullying, etc.
They pretty much make you tell them a sob story. So I wrote all about my heartbreak when I ran out of coffee.
moviefan6 ยท 990 points ยท Posted at 18:58:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
NOT THE COFFEE!
Soldier1317 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 20:49:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Anything but the coffee!
[deleted] ยท 84 points ยท Posted at 22:26:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So you... spilled the beans?
trumpethero786 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 23:40:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Idk, I'd say he got... roasted.
HAC522 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:09:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Must've been hard to perc up, after that.
TurnLeftRepeat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:07:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Could've been grounds to be kicked off the show.
lunch431 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:14:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/roastme - the perfect sub for people who love coffee
trumpethero786 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:17:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or cannibalism fetishes. But thats frowned upon in many societies.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:48:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah thats /r/Vore. NSFW VERY FUCKING NSFW
NSFW
sausagesizzle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:59:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It happens. The point is that he was brave enough to take the plunge.
Frigguggi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A good story will always get you first crack at a spot on the show.
Cpt_Tsundere_Sharks ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:02:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
NOT TO FIFTY!
Solid_Waste ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:18:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can they even air that on television? THINK OF THE CHILDREN
greensunset ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:00:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Im my house we dont have nothing but coffee.
idontgetthejoke1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How many times to do i have to tell them STORE EXTRA COFFEE
angryfluttershy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:12:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's 2:07 am. But instead of sleeping, I'm weeping. The coffee... I... /bawl/ This is... Just too horrible!
melonlollicholypop ยท 441 points ยท Posted at 22:38:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate that. It feels like exploitation to me.
Jenny-Thalia ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 22:46:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It absolutely is. They want people to get upset and share their innermost feelings for the camera, for good tv. I mean, there's tonnes of bad shit I've been through that'd knock the other son stories out of the water, but I'm not stupid enough to announce them on tv ๐ so I repeatedly wrote about coffee.
K3R3G3 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:22:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Could've killed two birds with one stone and sung:
[Sobbing] "The worst part of waking up...is nothing's in my cup!" [Breaks down in tears]
hi_im_trying_to_trip ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:14:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did they talk about how passionate you are about coffee?
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:55:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's because it literally is.
OldBeforeHisTime ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:57:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If today you learned reality TV exploits people, then you've learned something valuable and should be glad.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:20:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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OldBeforeHisTime ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:25:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was trying to be polite. There's a first time for everybody to learn each fact. Why even assume this person owns a TV? Millions don't.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:36:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean if they have a Reddit account it's not exactly a sin to assume they have been around reality tv once or twice.
But you do have a point nonetheless.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:58:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because they are having a conversation about tv shows
hewhoreddits6 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:34:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most people have some knowledge that reality TV exploits people, but they really have no idea as to how much. For example with the singing shows, I know they have sob stories and they probably want to draw it out a little, but I didn't think they would dig that extensively for them.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:08:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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hewhoreddits6 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:46:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol somewhere in this thread someone linked a bunch of commercials for that show actually. I was hoping for like a nice documentary about the shit that goes on behind the scenes, but this fictional show will do as well! Thanks for the recommendation!
wje100 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:54:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The worst part is sobs stories usually don't affect how good of a single you are. A bad singer with a heart wrenching sob story is still a bad singer.
Deto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but they know that people would get bored if they were just watching a parade of faces sing songs well.
Satsuz ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:37:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Vast swaths of the reality TV genre are built on the foundation of exploiting people. But yeah, this is a rather shitty instance.
piscina_dela_muerta ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:11:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's because it is.
chrom_ed ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:32:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Running out of coffee and still having to do things? I agree.
iAmbassador ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:21:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Running out of coffee in this society IS exploitation.
creepycraig ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:05:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's emotional pandering for those who'd rather listen to some white kid's sob story than listen to actual music. Sucks because some of those shows had decent acts, just the sob stories were so annoying.
HVAvenger ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No one forces them to do it.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:56:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is not a requirement for exploitation.
HVAvenger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:25:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is a different debate, here if both parties are fine with the situation then there is no exploitation. If one party isn't, in this case, they can walk out.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:31:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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HVAvenger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:56:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, lets say you had a kid that looked up to you a lot and you used this influence over them to get them to work in your sweatshop.
That would be exploitation, wouldn't you agree? But the kid isn't being forced to do anything.
In the case of the reality TV, these are all adults who can make their own choices. Its odd that the concept of personal responsibility is foreign to so many people on reddit.
[deleted] ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 00:19:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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idgafbroski ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:38:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe a little less Reddit there bud, you sound a bit sick in the head.
thegreatcarraway ยท 543 points ยท Posted at 21:43:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We're here to support you. Running out of coffee is no joke.
Jenny-Thalia ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:46:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've never actually run out of coffee tbh!
notstephanie ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:24:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did the other day. Had to go buy more coffee before I could even have coffee. It was terrible.
6xydragon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:36:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You had to talk to people before your coffee! You poor soul. I will pray for you......to the elder god Cuthulu
notstephanie ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:44:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh no, it wasn't that bad. Praise Cuthulu for self-checkout.
FILE_ID_DIZ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:47:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FRESH POTS!
producer35 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:22:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Black libations matter.
ConfusingDalek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So are giant alien spiders.
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:57:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is why I liked Chopped.
There's almost always 1 person whose like "I need it for my sick mother" or something and another thats just like "I just wanna win lol". And its never skewed towards either in my experience.
hewhoreddits6 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:39:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's because there are certain shows that are just about the talent. Top Chef for example is really just about the food. There are contestants that look like jerks, but one guy who was kind of a jerk gave an interview on reddit, and he said that they don't make you say that stuff. Even if they cut it a certain way, they don't make you say anything, so the stupid shit you say is really from you. Not true for all shows though.
I honestly thought The Voice was going to fix that. It was originally advertised as being just about how good of a singer you were, and for a time it was. But it very quickly just became about the sob stories again.
Silvystreak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:42:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Voice is all about who the judges are that season.
hewhoreddits6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:57:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it took literally one season for me to stop caring who was competing on the voice. At that point I only cared about the judges interactions. The Voice shifts towards this more than any other competition because the judges actually have to have personality and fight for the contestants they want on their team. This makes for way more interesting conversations and interactions than we usually get, which is just judges saying if they loved or hated an act, and then some criticism.
Mezujo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:02:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you like Chopped, you'll probably also like Cutthroat Kitchen. Similar, there's a few sob stories but mostly it's "I wanna win."
lustywench99 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:32:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're all like this. Back in college u turned up for a Real World casting call. My sister had just died so they attacked that. Another girl was talking about how her best friend wanted to be in a relationship with her and started crying. We both got to the next level of interviews. I watched them "groom" her first, asking about her jewelry, pressing her for family details... when they got to me I was just like... naw... how do I get out of here?
I thought it looked like fun watching on tv... but I didn't really want to use all that personal stuff to get further along in the process.
runetrantor ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:27:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really hope it was a long, heartwretching story, that they are reading going 'yes, yes, perfect!' as it goes one and on, and THEN at the end, you pull the rug from behind them with the 'and thus I never got my coffee'.
PM_ME_REDDIT_BRONZE ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:16:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My cousin tried to get on the voice. They told her that her voice was good enough to be on the show, but she wasn't the type of person they were looking for. The show is named the voice for crying out loud. The whole point of the show is so the judges can blindly judge you on your voice alone and she didn't make it to them for reasons other than her voice. It irritates me so much I stopped watching the show.
RadicalDog ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:10:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe that's the sort of rejection they give so people feel better about themselves...
BragBent ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 23:13:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
X Factor. It's all fake.
They feed him lines to say. His whole personality is different because they want him to be the bad boy.
I'm guessing everything but the voting is fake.
TheSeaOfThySoul ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:44:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Would assume the voting is fake too, seeing as to how they're following the finalists with the cameras from the get-go. You can tell from the first mark.
The same holds true for every kind of music contest all over the globe, "Unpretty Rapstar" (Korean rap-show) was obviously fake as sin. The person who won the show was demolished in a rap-battle partway through the series, cried, etc. and the person who clearly won the rap battle was declared the loser, then entered the "sudden death loser round" and clearly performed better than the other people in it, and still lost. The whole thing was set up to make the biggest threat in the contest lose so the planned winner could look good.
BragBent ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:09:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The voting can't be too fake in my country because there are laws about accepting money for voting such as this.
The manipulation of people into voting for certain people however is definitely real though.
TheSeaOfThySoul ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you watch X-Factor, you live in the same country as me - I'm British you know.
I'm aware X-Factor is phone-line votes, but Unpretty Rapstar is a combination of several kinds of votes, none of them monetary related. Internet, attendants at the show, judges, contestants, etc.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:33:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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TheSeaOfThySoul ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 11:44:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know, but elsewhere it's called other things surely? I mean, we had Pop Idol, America made it "American Idol".
Either way, the only reason I said that was because he said "In my country" which to me implied he thought I was Korean because I have a Korean show as an example - when in reality I just used it because it's the most obvious example. He might not have meant that, but that's what I took from it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:58:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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TheSeaOfThySoul ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:39:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fair play.
hewhoreddits6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
X-Factor I believe is actually real, although it wasn't really before. Simon Cowell got in trouble for rigging the votes at some point, and I would hope that he learned his lesson now.
_Big_Baby_Jesus_ ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:34:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In the giant American Idol contract, the Producers are allowed to make up stories about your life. If you reveal that the stories are not true, they can sue you.
literaphile ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:59:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Source?
-hisdark- ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:03:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You always see that the judges seem to ask just the right questions to fit someones sob story.
'do you live with your parents? ' ' oh well actually my parents both died in a car crash so put me in the next round please and thank you'
Nixie9 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:30:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it's kinda hard to win the audience over with 'kid does good singing'.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:41:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always am reminded of this episode of the Key and Peal show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEzE3L-NKL4
squeegep ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:13:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There goes my hero...
speed_of_pain84 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Watch him as he goes...
TuxOut ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:05:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There goes my hero..
Silvystreak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:46:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's ordinary...
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:42:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
so funny they think that's what draws people to watch. i TiVo and fast forward through all the stories
ElucidatedBrethren ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:12:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Been there with the coffee. Be strong.
BSantry ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:09:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dave Grohl?
madkeepz ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:54:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate how the world just keeps on spinning will you're there, hot water, sugar, and a huge part of your life is missing. I mean yes, you could put the sugar in the hot water and drink it but it's not it, it's just a sad reminder of what it is not. And you have to suck it up, and deal with the fact that the store is just way too far away for the will of leaving your house. You can always drink the tea but really, is it really what you want? and if you drink it, will you find it in your heart to replace the coffee you haven't got with it? you know you wont. Tea is not coffee. Hot water with sugar is not coffee, and it's cold outside, and you're just there, and nobody seems to give a shit. They say "hey I don't give a shit" or "who cares" or "that sucks dude but can you call an ambulance? I'm literally having a heart attack". Might as well shit on your cup and laugh while you drink it. It wouldn't make a difference. They have already shat on your life. And now it's too late to make up for the past... that trip to the supermaerket... "oh I have plenty and next time I swing by I'll get some more, no drama". How stupid of you. You knew it. You dug this hole of misery. Now get inside, and bury yourself in it.
TommyCX ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:34:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is the BACKSTORY!!!
redorhcal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:41:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone who's worked in IT feels for you
TheBames ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:20:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I worked on a popular show that is no longer around and they actively seek and put through the first phases of auditions odd quirky William hung ish people just to get them on camera in front of the judges to be turned down.
CongoAndTheNuggets ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:41:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I disagree with this. I actually made it on a well known singing show and they didn't use a sob story for me. I even gave them one, my mom had cancer and lupus and was in remission. They still didn't use it.
wendelion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:08:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Addiction is a horrible thing. Don't have to say what you're addicted to though.
EmiliusReturns ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:50:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went to school with a girl who got through several rounds at American Idol, and the producers straight up told her "you have a beautiful voice, but you aren't marketable because your story is too boring." She asked for clarification, and they told her "you haven't struggled enough, and we're looking for underdog stories."
It didn't surprise me to hear that, to be quite honest. It seems like every last AI contestant has some obnoxious sob story, and people fall for it and vote for them even if the person's voice isn't even that great.
Jenny-Thalia ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:56:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, that's shocking! I definitely wasn't rejected after round 3 because of a lack of a sob story, the others in my category that got through were fantastic, much better than I. to get excluded on the basis of not having a sob story is horrible. Your poor friend
ProbablyNotARealAcc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:56:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think I remember that episode. Heartwarming tale of overcoming caffeine withdrawal, and finding the nearest Starbucks? You were good.
Jenny-Thalia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:31:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Starbucks? I like coffee, man!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't get this, well I do. They do it because the audience ACTUALLY likes it. Real people get involved in this crap and eat it up. That's the scary part. I would vote for the contestant that tells the producers and judges to fuck right off every single week.
Mksiege ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:11:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They wouldn't make it into the actual show if they did.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But why do people love sheepish conformity? It's like the world is full of these mindless drones and I'm here, a sentient being watching in absolute disbelief.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:48:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because people (especially Americans) like rooting for the underdog and watching a person pull themselves up by the boot straps and get the success they "deserve". If you want to be a real popstar, audition through a record company.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:18:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the thing though, I'm American. But when does the authenticity of the "sob story" become void? Real people actually buy that shit still? After like 116 years of hollywood? They get up on stage with their story and some are bad, usually there's no proof of those. Then some are just like, okay? So you have low blood sugar, or had mono... Cool.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:04:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If it wasn't getting views and keeping viewers they wouldn't be doing it. Reality TV shows care about the bottom line, not about authenticity. When ratings and views go down they'll likely try something different.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know why but it's unsettling that people eat that shit up though. Knowing its total garb. Maybe some are fooled but surely not most that would be way scarier. It's just dramatic interperatation of reality which sums up to cringe worthy bad acting and a big stamp on their forehead that says "this is how a person acts, yes?" "Pay me more moneys to mimic Human please"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People like trashy TV. Look at how popular Jersey shore is.
Drama makes money, so TV shows leverage it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:43 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone is probably like, fake or something and they've been programmed to interact with me and my perception of them was foreseen by my overlord. Maybe I died and went to hell. Not sure, could be heaven because my A/C in my truck started working and it's ICCEEE COLD
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend made it a few rounds into American idol a few years ago. Phenomenal singer. Story wasn't sad enough though
MetthJunkie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Posted in another thread. You've clearly never run out of meth, either...
kaity-fairy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Totally agree with this-was in a similar situation with a popular singing show and they were trying anything to drag that stuff out of me. They're interview also consisted of trying to make you cry or get angry...turned out they called the producer that interviewed me The Ball Buster. Yikes.
swyx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
did you feel not having a sob story hurt your chances?
crazed3raser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who considers them a pretty good singer and who has though about trying out for a singing show, I always felt I'd be too boring because I've never has some big tragedy or obstacle in my life.
themightymartin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This. I also auditioned for a well-known TV show, and they pretty much said that if I didn't have a sob story then I shouldn't even bother, no Matter how good I was.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same with ANW
Summamabitch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No wonder you didn't make it. Can't sell a good life :)
HadHerses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Watch Peter Kays 'Britain's Got the Pop Factor... and Possibly a New Celebrity Jesus Christ Soapstar Strictly on Ice' and it highlights all this perfectly!
Scary thing is, it was made ooh maybe ten years ago and the comedy in it is still relevant to the shows today.
You join the show at the finals where the last three all have amazing sob stories, it's TV Gold.
creatrixtiara ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I've filled out app forms for singing shows and they get REALLY personal. The Voice AU keeps it mostly professional but even then they ask you about your upbringing.
Quirky_sloth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:01:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This !!! I saw a kid I knew from high school on I think it was American idol or the voice. One of those shows and he was crying saying how he was bullied by all the kids. This kid was a total fucking dick to everyone and I don't know where that shit came from!
1BoiledCabbage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:05:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard about this with American Idol audition contestants, they allow terrible singers to go through and beg them for an even worse performance. This is exactly what happened with Mary Roach. Even though it seemed real, I have to applaud her for going all out on the crazy rant.
donutsfornicki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is that why there are 70 stories a year about singing contestants with dyslexia
fordchang ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah ! the dead relative routine.
IWishItWouldSnow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:21:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was it the cat poop coffee at least?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you explain how you managed to overcome that? I'm going through something similar and could use the support ;-(
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
SAD UKELELE INTENSIFIES
SlappaDaBassMahn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:27:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep during auditions its the worst. My best mates are twins orphaned at a young age. They got through auditions almost purely off their story (although they are very good singers) then kicked out in the next round because according to the judges "they arent ready"
TheSeaRanger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:22:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know a couple of young people (with a lot of talent) that got late into the audition process for The X-Factor, and they told us all about how the application forms had all of the stuff you mentioned, even including the questions "Have you ever been to jail?" and "Have you experienced any problems with racism in your life?" among others. Definitely tells you that the shows are built around sob stories to get viewers, even if they are talented as hell.
If I had any musical talent and made the decision to audition I can guarantee I would write a whole bunch of random sob stories just to see what happens.
mrb10nd3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Coffee's for closers.
throwawaysaresacred ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Omg if I was FORCED to come up with a sob story, I would have totally come up with an epic, however bullshit, story that they might not even let on Network TV. "When I was five, my next door neighbor made me have sex with his dog. I feel so ashamed! cries I can't even LOOK at those fucking wishbone commercials without breaking down. His favorite thing to say right before he came was, "You have heard of Wishbones, right? I bet you WISH you were worthy of THAT bone inside of you!"" Then I would proceed to cry uncontrollably as I tried to find a pen, pencil, etc. to cut myself with.
sendenten ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite singing competition sob story was the girl on the Voice who said she was bullied all her life for being dyslexic.
scripturience ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:48:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine in high school auditioned for a national singing show when we were 14. She refused to give her sob story, because she wanted her participation in the competition to be due to her talent or not at all.
thejokerlaughsatyou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate the sob stories, but the most reaching-for-a-tear story I've ever seen is actually fairly recent. On the current America's Got Talent season, there was this girl who was like 12 or 13. Her talent was singing, so you immediately know 1. she has a sob story and 2. she goes to the next round because the judges love singing kids. But her sob story was "I'm adopted." Not "I was abused, taken away, and adopted by a new family." Not "My mother died giving birth and my father died in Iraq so I was adopted." It was literally just that she was adopted as a baby. Like, ok? Oh... no?
toddsmash ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:40:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus Christ! If we were in the same room i'd hug you so tight all the pieces would come back together and you'd never feel sad about the coffee ever again.
At least until tomorrow morning!
Ebu-Gogo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:26:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The sob stories are part of the reason why I resent these shows, because it seems so explotative and forced. Everyone has some deep motivation, while most of them probably don't go deeper than "I like singing, found that I could sing well, so now I want to compete in this singing show" or "I wanna be famous, yo".
I always thought it was the contestants doing this though, because they know those are the ones to get air time. Guess I was wrong.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:45:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My boss threatened to fire me for putting my needs to making coffee as soon as I come in instead of calling the managers to see what they need. Bitch, I'm the first one in at 6am.
Naganofagano ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:50:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh. Sob stories are the reason I don't watch reality tv. I just don't care about other peoples problems!
ILikeMyBlueEyes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:57:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I always found it strangely stupid how they just so happen to have video of some auditioners in their hometown with them doing a voiceover telling their sob story.
Rabid_Chocobo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:27:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is the thing that always bothered me about Chopped. It's like "Oh come on, how can every person be inspired to cook because their family member died, or they went through some personal trauma that drove them to be a chef?"
Even the trash talk on the show is half-assed, you can tell they were forced to say it. They're like "yeahhh, James is going dowwnn, I'm totally gonna win this...." with the most unenthusiastic face ever.
G8kpr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:33:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone on Reddit once posted that they got pretty far in preliminaries for a cooking show (Masterchef possibly?), they said that the judges liked their dish over the person's next to them, but the other person had a better "down and out" type story (possibly single mother?) and that it would do better for TV and she got chosen and he was let go.
perfect_square ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:36:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From "Airplane!", and VERY relevant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbv5B71KmkA
Basstracer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:32:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can predict the winner of almost any episode of Chopped by watching the chef's stories at the beginning. Whoever has a sob story almost always wins.
Silvystreak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did they air it? I need to see this.
Jenny-Thalia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God no, thankfully ๐ it was the voice UK
applepwnz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:05:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate how they always do that! It's why I vastly prefer the Japanese version of Ninja Warrior:
American Ninja Warrior: "Here's Paul Smith, he's a 34 year old teacher of special ed students and single father to his horribly disfigured daughter. After losing everything in a house fire, he had to work 4 jobs while also volunteering at a non-kill animal shelter..."
Japanese Ninja Warrior: "This is 34 year out Taka, he works in construction."
Chocolatefix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:06 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I used to watch singing competitions or dance competitions like So You Can Dance I noticed it got more and more sob story heavy. It got to the point where I just fast forwarded to the performance then to the critique.
ClayGCollins9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:23 on July 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't watch any shows like that anymore. Every show is 75% sob story interviews, 15% actual performances, 10% judges gushing over the contestants (often relating to the sob story, often attempting to be funny)
ManOnTheHorse ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:32:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Took me a while, but I just couldn't understand what BEG stood for.
heylmAdam ยท 2803 points ยท Posted at 19:50:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My sister's fiancรฉ was on 16 and Pregnant. The children are real.
[deleted] ยท 1153 points ยท Posted at 21:55:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
thanks for that adam
buds4hugs ยท 65 points ยท Posted at 01:05:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Back to Ollie for the forecast.
[deleted] ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 02:28:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Hiei2k7 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 03:50:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Where's your umbrella ollie?
kjata ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 07:11:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Blew 'way!
ixijimixi ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 02:46:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ollie's camera is crooked again!
Stinky_WhizzleTeats ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:47:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Back to you Andy
mttdesignz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/fuckolly
heylmAdam ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:33:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha you are welcome.
kylemaguire ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:56:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
what would we do without adam?
suesays ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:18:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hail Ceasar
thank_mr_skeletal ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:33:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
thank you for sharing sue
pickadamnsoda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:52:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're welcome.
Dan_Dead_Or_Alive ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:27:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit, how did you know his name, are you psych? What's mine?
therealadamaust ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:18:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're welcome
RockStar5132 ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 05:41:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He didn't say he was the one that had the kid. And we don't know which one, if any were named Adam anyway
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:54:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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RockStar5132 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:30:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, yes, it was my attempt at being a smart ass which failed miserably. Ah well.
heylmAdam ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:33:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not me.. think Texas.
youaremybitchh ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:27:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely want to know more. Is he a baby daddy On the show?
Louielouielouaaaah ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:12:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which episode?! Haha. I have seen them all D;
buttononmyback ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:32:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same here. It's my guilty pleasure. I wouldn't even admit this to my mom though, let alone any of my friends.
[deleted] ยท -18 points ยท Posted at 02:11:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So many basics in this thread
Louielouielouaaaah ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:03:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then maybe you shouldn't have been reading it, no?
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 15:32:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whatever you say basic :)
vaginasinparis ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:58:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's their name?
Hawkthezammy ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:34:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Adam
vaginasinparis ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:06:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
As in Adam Lind?
Edit: didn't even realize it wasn't op who replied lol
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:03:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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sunshine_rainbow ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 00:57:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Chelsea is actually one of my favorites, mostly because she seems like she has her shit together more than the others. But it does seem like the only thing "bad" in her life is Adam, and well, that's gotta be bullshit because teenage motherhood must be harder than she puts off. I think of her as the least trashy, but of course I only see what airs.
RCTIDsince85 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:09:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It helps that she's got just about the only good parents of girls from the show.
sunshine_rainbow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:28:21 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Precisely! I don't think she would have much at all if it weren't for her supportive parents.
mintberrycrunk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:47:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
who?
_valleyone_ ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:25:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trash how? I've always gotten the mean girl impression from her but definitely not trashy.
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 00:53:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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_Swagner_ ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:35:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Followed through with GED*
Kept baby because of financial and emotional support, especially from Daddy*
9 months of further education for beauty school*
Job
Strong support system from boyfriend and family
Lives close to family in same town
Happy
Fuck TIL I strive to be Dakota trashy
*Edited 2 months later just for you /u/squeel
squeel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:41 on September 19, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She didn't graduate high school, it took her years to get her ged and her further education is a 9 month beauty school. She works sometimes and her dad paid her bills while she did all of that. She's not trashy but your facts are wrong
[deleted] ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 00:58:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Taking responsibility for your mistakes and raising your child instead of giving them up or putting them on the parents does not sound trashy to me.
inactive_glamour ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:19:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"kept it"= not having an abortion.
michemarche ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:05:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I never got the trashy impression from Chelsea. Her dad is rich. She gets some help from him but has her own money. Maybe you should watch the show.
sum_beach ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:32:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Out of all the girls, Chelsea is the one who is doing best for herself. A fee of the other moms on teen mom and teen mom 2 are just train wreck. Chelsea is not.
squeel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:05 on September 19, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
'some help' is a major understatement. he paid her bills while she kept getting fucked by Adam (figuratively and literally) and took years to take/pass her GED test
eu01 ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 01:28:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How does getting pregnant and keeping it make you trash? I thought that made you not a murderer... smh
alwaysjammin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Chelsea?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Makes sense if 16 & pregnant was real. Glad to know their as terrible as they appear
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:08:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...but the sisters are fake!
winplease ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:02:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
what about their babies?
AngeloGi ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:04:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The cases are real. JUDGE JUDY
TeenMomLurker ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:49:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Okay I rarely leave my subreddit /r/teenmom but I saw your comment and now I have to say PLEEEEEEASE come to /r/teenmom, we'd love if you did an AMA!! <3
heylmAdam ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 09:30:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Will do. I'll make a post tomorrow.
TeenMomLurker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:22:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yay! And someone corrected me, it's actually /r/teenmom
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:21:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's actually called /r/teenmom.
TeenMomLurker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oops! Just noticed that, thanks
atomguerra ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:02:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey Adam im Atom
cheesecleh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:19:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Please tell us who
---wat--- ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:08:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tell us more!!
heylmAdam ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:14:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What, particularly, are you wanting to know? Ha
buttononmyback ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:33:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like which episode were they on and what their names are...
heylmAdam ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:04:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brooke and Cody from season 2.
SUPboardsuperstar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:01:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard rumors about "Stunt infants". Thank you for clearing that up.
simonchetho ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:07:34 on July 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hahahahahahahahah just cracked up. haha
maninbonita ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:46:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I stood in line behind one of the girls in Chattanooga. Had people holding little hand held cameras that looked like cell phones. There was a camera in the cart looking at me. Gosh I hope I'm not on that show.
Seems like a boring show if they show the people in Walmart looking around. Also makes the stereotype of Walmart legit.
Kenya_Not ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:52:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Any relation to SupImAdam?
ImNoland ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:03 on July 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hi Adam I'm Noland.
KitKatMasterJapan ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love 16 & Preggers! Which girl was it??
FILE_ID_DIZ ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 01:15:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
eyelid twitch
PM_UR_PEPES ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 01:19:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
are u ok there buddy
AcoupleofIrishfolk ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:19:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clearly they're totes jelly at not being preggers.
cgprats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cousin was on that too. (Michael)I didn't know they picked real people until then.
barbie_trap_house ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:05:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What do you mean "real people"? They pick real pregnant teens. How do you fake that?
cgprats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actors, not real instances of this
jcpg33 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:12:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A family friend was on one of those shows and says that as a reward for causing drama and shit they would get money and toys for there children and if they didn't they got cut off. total and complete extortion bullshit
xXGARR377Xx ยท 5846 points ยท Posted at 17:07:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
My aunt and uncle were on "Love It Or List It" they had them record both endings and the network chose which one they thought was best. They are still in the house and they love it, but the show says they listed it.
Edit: "Re odd" changed to "record"
TWANGnBANG ยท 679 points ยท Posted at 22:27:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know someone who was on that show when it was in Raleigh. Here's how the show works, according to what they told me: 1. As mentioned, nobody wants to list their house- they just want a free renovation and to be on TV. However... 2. ...the show only pays for 50% of the work they do on your house, and the producers do what they want for TV and don't really respect the homeowners' wishes. 3. They shoot a bunch of episodes in one market at a time, so they use one set of contractors for all of the homes. If they get behind on the work on a given home, they pretend that the work is done so they can wrap on the episode, then they take the crew with them to the next house. You then have to live in an unfinished renovation until the whole set of episodes is finished and the crew can get back to you. This can be months or not at all.
It has been an awful experience for many in this market, but the contract is so immensely in the favor of the production company, the homeowners don't really have any reasonable recourse to get things finished or fixed in the cases stuff was done wrong.
xennia87 ยท 47 points ยท Posted at 23:35:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've always wondered, Isn't it a bit expensive even with the 50% discount? It always seems to me that they spend too much money in fancy home decor :/
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 01:07:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I suspect they stage most of the decorations.
Gbiknel ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:24:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of materials are given for free from companies to get advertising.
niuguy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:35:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As opposed to what?
PleasanceLiddle ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 12:33:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As opposed to hiring your own contractors and doing the actual renovations you want.
I could redo my kitchen for about 4k, but I bet the show could easily do a 10K remodel. Then I'm out 5k and didn't even get to choose what I wanted (though of course there's the chance I really love it and it's extra fancy and I got a deal, but that's a risk)
niuguy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:59:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but 1) most people don't. and 2) It's not that kind of show. :) Look, I hate the show, but that show wouldn't work as a DIY show. 70k+ worth of remodeling is, by itself, a couple show's worth of content. Plus there is the whole other side where they shop for homes.
G8kpr ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 09:41:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of an ex-coworker who was on a lower budget, Canadian version of "Trading Spaces". Where he and his wife swapped with her friends. He didn't want anything to do with it, but did it anyways to please her.
He said producers were dicks, but camera crew seemed nice. At one point he had just finished painting a bookshelf.
producer says "can you put some of the stuff back on the shelf (knick knacks and what not) so we can get some shots.
co-worker says "I just painted it, wait until it's dry"
producer: "It's fine, we need the shot so we can move on"
co-worker "I'm not putting her stuff on a wet bookshelf and ruining them
producer: "don't worry about it, we're on a tight schedule, let's get the shot and move on to the next room
co-worker "go fuck yourself, I'm not doing it" and he simply walked away. They got the shot later when the bookshelf was fully dried.
He (my co-worker) also helped himself to beers in his friend's fridge, which freaked out the producer "we can't film you drinking beer!!!"
He said "then uh, don't film me". Lol.. he truely didn't give a fuck. He said that he spoke with the camera guys, and one said that their show is the "break up" show, because they have seen so many couples just lose their shit at each other, one time a few of the production crew had to run after a husband, chase him down and try to calm him down and bring him back to the taping, which took well over an hour to get him to come back after he and his wife had a huge argument over something.
dogfins25 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:53:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. The one producer is registered as a contractor on Canada, but not in the US! So they have to hire contractors from wherever they are while in Canada they have their own contracting company. My mom used to work for the company that produces the show and it was hell for her.
xXGARR377Xx ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:40:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup that sounds about right!
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 13:13:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wouldn't it be funny if Holmes makes it right is just them fixing unfinished love it or list it projects?
jimmyjrsickmoves ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:20:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I saw David Visintin at Pullen park with his kid. I couldn't stop looking at him. I wanted to go up and tell him that the only reason i recognized his stupid bald head was because my wife tortures me with hgtv.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:27:49 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i read about this being ahuge issue in raleigh, that one of them actually was filing a lawsuit related to this over the unfinished/TERRIBLE contractor work and that the contractors actually many times were not even legally allowed to work in the area or whatever idk this is really vague b/c i can't remember if this was in Raleigh or in some other state just remember readingabout it
xennia87 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:35:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've always wondered, Isn't it a bit expensive even with the 50% discount? It always seems to me that they spend too much money in fancy home decor :/
senor_louse ยท 2923 points ยท Posted at 19:03:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This one hurts the most. ๐ข
Zanowin ยท 506 points ยท Posted at 21:37:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
nolan1971 ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 22:33:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In all seriousness though, did anyone ever actually believe the "reality" in "reality television"?
Rpgwaiter ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 23:07:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did. I mean, it's right in the name, man.
inspireSF ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:09:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like this is the modern day adult version of "Santa's not real".
Rpgwaiter ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:12:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Slightly related, but I didn't find out that Santa isn't real until a year after joining the military.
BlissnHilltopSentry ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:53:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You might just be a little slow... a lot of kids never had to be told thing like that weren't real.
Rpgwaiter ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:10:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm definitely not slow lol. It's just something I never thought to question. The same could be said about religious people and their god :p
I had the cookies and milk laid out in my dorm room, had a little xmas tree setup, no Santa. I ended up asking what I did wrong on Yahoo Answers, people thought I was fucking with them
MsSunhappy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:05:11 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha thats cute no lie. Stupid things can be cute when done in innocence and not harming anybody. Did your dorm mate give you shits for that?
Rpgwaiter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:46:13 on July 23, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't have a dorm mate at the time, he moved out a few weeks before this happened
Zanowin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:21:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
darkwing_duck_87 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:45:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And it's not like the show was called "Love It and List It." It's not like they could possibly shoot both endings.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:36:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The producers are mathematicians.
jamarcus92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, you can't love your cake and list it too!
TheDedicatedDeist ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:46:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I've gotten into so many arguments about shows like Pawn Stars and Lizard Lick whatever that I literally don't even attempt to explain how fake the shows are to people who were amazed at something that happened on it.
megantastic ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:14:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lizard Lick
TLema ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:35:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, can we backtrack to that for a minute? Is that a real thing?
truenoise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:27:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You've just given a reality show producer the idea for their next show.
Hornisaurus_Rex ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:46:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The sad thing is that a lot of people believe it, and they invest a lot of themselves in reality TV
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:54:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember a few years ago, ABC had a murder mystery reality show and viewers thought the murders were real
TLema ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:37:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like that fucking Megalodon "documentary" on Shark Week last year. People thought that bullshit was real.
truenoise ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:29:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that was totally made up, unlike Sharknado.
shinypretty ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:29:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My hand to God. One of my friends was a re-enactor on one of the true-crime shows a couple years back, and he got pegged in public as Da Killa and was detained until he could prove his actual identity and explain the story.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:58:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, on the bright side, it must be nice to be recognized for your work...... shrug
Seriously, how can there be people in this day and age who believe what they see on TV?
MAKE_ME_REDDIT ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:00:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know anyone that invests a lot of themselves in reality tv. I mean it's just for entertainment. Who cares if it's real or fake?
keef_hernandez ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:27:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Google "Donald Trump".
Appliers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:11:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno man, maybe investing in it is a good idea. If there's no truth in it that just leaves room for money.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:58:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most of the cooking competition shows are pretty legit.
darkwing_duck_87 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:47:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't fail me Curtis. Please don't let me find Take Home Chef in this thread.
Mksiege ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:15:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or so we think :S
malexj93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. Brothers friend was on hells kitchen. She didn't win but she has her own restaurant now.
theheartlesshero ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:50:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I suspected it in the drama riddled shows but this one actually kind of surprised me. I remember the show trading spaces was not scripted because there was so many times you could tell the people legit hated there rooms. I remember one lady cried she hated it so much. Lol for you who don't know or remember the show, it was you traded rooms with your neighbor for a day and a designer would help and tell you what to do and gimme you homework assignments. It was funny because sometimes you would get these designers come in and try to make a piece of art as someone's living room, or the one neighbor put in so much work and makes there neighbors house great, and they go home and there room is a piece of shit lol
neutron_stars ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:04:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As long as Hildy wasn't redoing your house, you were okay. Maybe it wouldn't be great, but it would be fixable. If Hildy showed up, you were getting hay glued to your walls or all your furniture nailed to the ceiling.
theheartlesshero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not good with the names anymore. Was she the tall one with black hair? Kimd of reminded me of the character/actress Nina on Just shoot me
neutron_stars ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, that's the one.
flyboy_za ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:17:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reality TV scrapped what little pretense of reality it had when there was a Season Finale to any show.
Life exists in 10-episode chunks which end of cliff-hangers? News to me...
ScroteMcGoate ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:11:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most people on House Hunters have already picked out their house before being given their three choices.
Jmble ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:41:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's all. My friends were talking to their realtor about being on the show. They were trying to cast them as a wife who likes old houses and a husband who is too tall for them. They said they wouldn't accept them until they closed on a house first. Nothing ever came of it though.
BernieFeynman ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:15:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
even weirder because it's so awkward to watch them talk about it anyway, it usually sounds so forced like the network told them to up the ante, and despite this, they still apparently have bad takes for both decisions.
vortigaunt64 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:20:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't have to give me all of your money!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
seriously...next ill hear that even santa isnt real or something
caspy7 ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 23:13:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My suspicions about their deceptions were confirmed when I read about the lawsuit against them.
The competitors are actors, the promises at the beginning of the show (which always get broken) were never in the budget nor planned, the houses they look at are frequently not on the market and they may leave your house "irreparably damaged" like those people suing. The whole thing is a sham like House Hunters.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:56:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All those "choice" based house shows are all a sham. The House Hunters empire of like 7-8 shows now, all of them actually require people appearing on it to have already signed on the dotted line for the property they end up "choosing" before they even consider shooting an ep. Other properties they pretend to consider are sometimes what's on the market and sometimes they just source similar properties from the participants' friends. Happened to an aquaintance here in Vancouver, their friend was on the show and used the aquaintance's condo as a fake potential choice.
HITLERS_SEX_PARTY ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:10:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
'House Hunters' is just as fake. The house is bought before the show is even taped. They just revisit two others they didn't like, and make bitchy comments about the color schemes and tile.
MengerSpongeCake ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:53:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But see, at least with HH you can try to pick which house they actually own. It's like a sleuthing game.
DerpSherpa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:07:22 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Knowing about the scam but still watch them all, I pick the one where the contents of a house looks like the contents they would have for instance if they have a baby if one is already outfitted with a crib and the others aren't i will guess that one.
BallShapedMan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:18:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes it does...
niuguy ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:28:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Love it or list it might be the most obviously fake show on the channel. Ugh, the host's faces are so punchable...
DerpSherpa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:09:08 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just found a new show , well it's in its second season but it's new to me, called zombie house flippers and that one seems to have the worst acting of any of the shows on any of the networks.
Caitlen315 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:39:25 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Backpfeifengesicht
bbllaakkee ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:00:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tell me about it.. I feel like that's all that I watch. Completely ruined now.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:17:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I refuse to believe it. Kirsty would never betray my trust in this way.
mlels ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:17:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's ok! It's ok! This is the HGTV one. I'm choosing to believe the BBC one with Kirsty and Phil is legit. Because...British.
Full_Moon_Fever ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:09:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aww shit. My wife and I make bets on what they will do. Fuck.
meat_is_my_ham ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:53:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I trusted Phil and Kirsty :(
mlels ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:17:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's ok! It's ok! This is the HGTV one. I'm choosing to believe the BBC one with Kirsty and Phil is legit. Because...British.
Chasedog12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:21:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck right, I used to watch that show all the time ;^(
cherrycoke45 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the most obviously fake show I've ever seen.
newredditsucks ยท 569 points ยท Posted at 20:11:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Question about that:
It seems like there's always something structural that prevents the homeowners from getting what they really want, and that the structural things should have been found in the planning stage rather than during construction. How'd what they got match what they actually wanted?
Oh yeah, and usually people want six extra bedrooms and a hot tub in their kitchen, but they settle for heated floors in the basement bathroom.
xXGARR377Xx ยท 724 points ยท Posted at 21:57:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The episode they were on, there wasn't much stopping them from getting what they wanted. They wanted a new kitchen and dining room as well as a new basement floor. But there was some complication in the kitchen that would cost more so they just didn't do the basement. But to compensate for the lack of structural problems, the network wanted my aunt and uncle to fight with each other over decisions. But they said "absolutely not, that's not who we are." So the episode may have a came out a little bit more "real".
Thundershrimp ยท 470 points ยท Posted at 23:09:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Deal with a setback in a rational and considered manner? What bullshit is this?!" -Producers
shamelessnameless ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:14:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We need zazz, we need bing, we need pop!
edgeblackbelt ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:42:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't remember that quote from either of the Producers movies...
Eurynom0s ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:34:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
-Boba Fett
buttononmyback ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:08:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or Quinn from UnReal.
g3istbot ยท 106 points ยท Posted at 23:15:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I always assumed those petty arguments you see on the show were fabricated.
You'll have something like where the wife absolutely needs to have a sun room to do Yoga in, and the husband must have a finished basement. The houses they always show have one or the other, and either the wife or the husband will make some little quip suggesting that the wants of the other don't matter.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:31:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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King-of-Karthadasht ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:50:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, if it's just for show you could go as far as you like. It's just make believe. Could even be fun.
buttononmyback ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:12:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The best episode was the "Male of honor-zilla," where the Male of honor (the bride's gay best friend) was a complete asshole the whole episode because it was "his day to shine." He wanted the perfect venue, the perfect food and most of all, the perfect outfit. He was going to strut down the aisle IN FRONT of the bride so that everyone could see him.
The whole episode was over the top I figured it absolutely had to be fake. I couldn't imagine anyone acting like that.
Huttj ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:29:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Possibly relevant mitchell and webb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWoWHzq21tA
Turbo__Sloth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:10:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I figured it was fabricated when the husband and wife are NEVER on the same page regarding staying or listing. There is ALWAYS one that wants to move and one that wants to stay. Always.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:04:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Their "complications" are bullshit. "Well we have to move the fuse box so we can run pipes for the dish washer and new sink placement. It'll be an extra 5 grand." Or maybe move the fucking dish washer? Wtf.
cjmook21 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:07:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I assumed that show was really scripted just based on the fact that every couple act so divided and argumentative over some minor detail.
Kyanche ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:54:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lol, I think I even remember seeing that episode. Dang, I used to watch too much HGTV.
Roygbiv856 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:51:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Would it be too much to tell us what episode?
xXGARR377Xx ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:04:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would but it has some personal stuff about their family. Sorry man!
literaphile ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:03:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Think about it this way, thousands (millions?) of people have already seen the episode so nothing on it is private.
Roygbiv856 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:08:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No worries. I understand
Mdcastle ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:09:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Somehow the part of the house that they have to not do after all because the find shoddy wiring or termite damage or whatever never gets demolished on demolishion day.
EvangelineTheodora ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:40:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would love to be on that show. I have strong opinions on building materials and whatnot, and my husband has strong opinions on design. We could have a good fake-ish argument. Also, I love that show far too much.
mai_tais_and_yahtzee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:45:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's extremely obviously staged that a sudden "problem" crops up, just in time for Hillary to look concerned and cut to commercial. Problems appear for the drama.
NotClever ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:54:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's interesting. I always assumed the fighting was scripted. People just fight way too much on that show for it to be real.
MAKE_ME_REDDIT ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:03:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why would they not? It's just a tv show. It's acting. They don't have to actually fight.
[deleted] ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 23:13:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably just because everyone sees it and assumes you're both idiots for fighting over tile.
MAKE_ME_REDDIT ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:19:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's when you say "yeah they wanted us to play it up and we got paid, so suck it Cathy, our lawn has always been better than yours."
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:20:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not that I don't think Cathy isn't a bitch, but what about, say, future employers?
MAKE_ME_REDDIT ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:23:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Again, just explain that they asked you to play it up. Who gives a shit?
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:28:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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HojMcFoj ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:15:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If your prospective employer recognizes you from bridezilla and also accepts the show as actual reality then you dodged a bullet
Bromlife ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Are you serious? You've obviously never actually hired anyone and had hundreds, even thousands, of people apply for the job. You are desperately looking for reasons to disqualify people, and being a nasty bitch on a reality show is a good enough reason.
Don't act like a cunt on TV. You're an idiot if you don't realise there can be repercussions.
Anti-AliasingAlias ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:33:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To make good (see: bad) TV.
HalloweenBlues ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:58:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh one hand it'd be fucking hilarious to coordinate a meltdown with your wife. "Hey honey, just chuck this plate at my head and then say something about my mother."
But on the other hand, yeah I wouldn't want cable subscribers to think my wife was a crazy asshole.
Temptime19 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:20:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oops, commented against wrong post
Temptime19 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:21:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's almost like some people have integrity and don't want to be shown as something they are not.
MAKE_ME_REDDIT ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:36:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL actors don't have integrity
TurnLeftRepeat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get this radical, free thinker off the set!
xXGARR377Xx ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:59:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because our entire family would be seeing it and they couldn't bring themselves to yell at each other for nothing.
NDIrish27 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:27:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah there's always stuff that a basic inspection would have found but they have to make it "suspenseful" so hey, there's suddenly asbestos everywhere.
Matrix_V ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:54:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Well, bad news guys. We've found asbestos. The estimated cost of fixing this is two thousand dollars."
*husband and wife grimace at each other*
[bad acting] "Honey. That's outside of our max budget of $800,000."
[some time later]
"We've decided..."
"...to give up the mudroom."
bigheyzeus ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:37:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a heated floor in my basement bathroom that the previous owners conveniently put in when they finished the basement. Haven't used it once because no one showers or shits down there. I think features like this are good for contractors to push because they sound awesome at first but realistically, barely get used
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:06:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Meh. I have heated flooring that I use in the winter. It's a pretty nice little feature that didn't really cost me all that much. I could live with out it for sure...but I'm happy I went with it.
Mksiege ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:22:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe the previous owners were into BDSM and needed a quiet space that wasn't cold?
bigheyzeus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:11:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, they had a contractor design the basement and they pretty much went with every upgrade he suggested. Of course it all sounds great at first and he's just doing his job upselling but I wouldn't have sprung for that option.
Mr_Engineering ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:54:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm an engineer and I have worked in several home construction projects.
Structurals are a part of the preliminary design for every home. Nothing gets built or is subject to a major remodel without a structural engineer signing off on it.
The engineering design is often constrained by the desire to use cheap materials or cheap methods of construction.
Spans of 2x12 softwood lumber are incredibly cheap to both purchase and install; however, they lack stability in two dimensions which limits the length of the span as they are prone to warping and twisting over long distances. As a result, bulkheads and point loads end up being built everywhere to accomodate the large but short structural beams.
LVL beams are more expensive, but are more stable. These can be shallower and longer than plain lumber structurals.
Steel I-beams are the best but they're rare outside of foundations and basements. Use in upper levels is largely limited to custom and executive homes.
Pretty much any structural issue can be resolved with a bit of work, but it will cause the cost of the project to skyrocket. In order to replace or move a structural element, a temporary load bearing element has to be built to carry the weight that is currently being carried by the load bearing element that is being altered. This involves a lot of work and a lot of money that would cause most interested parties to simply say "well fuck that". This is simply terrible from a TV optics perspective and runs contrary to the narrative that these home redesign shows are telling, so they avoid it like the plague.
Furthermore, the municipality should have the original building designs on file as well as any building permits that were drawn. If the drawings can't be found, or the building doesn't match the drawing, only several logical outcomes exist:
Someone made structural changes without obtaining a building permit and/or engineered drawings.
Someone built something wrong and it was missed by an inspector.
The show producers didn't bother to do their homework.
The show producers knew about it, but simply wanted to make it look like it was discovered during construction to hype things up.
catjuggler ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:34:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's how it does work in reality though
catjuggler ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:34:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's how it does work in reality though
SlappaDaBassMahn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:12:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Im hell late here. I am a civil engineer. Out of uni i worked for a hardware store. We (i) did deliveries for a telivision show we have her is australia. A construction show and i can bouch that so mamy standards were not adhered to. A lot of places need to be re done once filming wraps, before the auction. I was there for 3 seasons and it got worse each season.
LupineChemist ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:27:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My thing is, it's like nobody on that show has homeowner's insurance.
It's like no matter what happens, it has to be on the renovation budget.
libraryspy ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 19:03:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I will try to be less obsessed about the choice factor in that, then. I'm always freaked out about LOVE or LIST.
shinypretty ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:29:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"POPCORN CEILINGS OH MY GOD WE'LL GET CANCER FROM THIS HOUSE"
HappyGoPink ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 20:42:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is the least surprising revelation. That show is so obviously fake, I always take everything about it with a grain of salt. Oh, sure, you didn't know beforehand that the wiring and the insulation were crap, riiiight.
OneGoodRib ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 21:21:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, a lot of these people live in old houses, and often the person who sold them the house either doesn't know the structure is crap or intentionally didn't tell them. I mean, it's shifty that ALL of the houses have something really important wrong, but I don't think it's unreasonable to believe at least some of these people didn't already know there was something behind the walls that was wrong in their 100 year old house.
I used to live in a 90 year old house, there was some obvious problems and I wouldn't be surprised if we'd been on a show like that and they told us there was dry rot and a family of owls living in the walls.
widmv84 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:25:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There was an episode with this family in an easily 100+ year old home, and something was wrong with the main drain line. Wife looks at it, looks at husband, and shrugs. "Who would know if we don't fix it?"
Scripted or not, that was seriously shitty. It was some environmental impact that would have become a huge problem if they didn't fix it.
HappyGoPink ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:25:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In any real estate show, the home has to go through inspection. I'm certain that the issues are identified early on, and are "discovered" during the renovation and presented as setbacks.
CTownKyle ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:00:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Plus all the walking and talking shots. And at the end when they're discussing their decision and the camera is looking at them from behind a bush like they're eavesdropping every time.
xXGARR377Xx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup they shot theirs from the other side of the kitchen. But they both were wearing mics.
Iamthedemoncat ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:40:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a friend do that. Same outcome.
007meow ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:40:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like I could fill an entire thread's worth of AMA questions for your Aunt and Uncle.
Can you ask them if Hillary/David were actually present for a lot of it? I saw that the show got sued recently for having incredibly shoddy workmanship and that the hosts weren't even there for anything other than little segments that they filmed specifically for the show.
squirly4 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:31:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. They also show you houses that are not for sale and possibly pick the ending where you "choose" the not for sale house.
Source: Have family friends that were shown to have "listed it" for a not for sale house, know the owners of this house still live there, and my family friends are still in their house.
EpicCODPlayer10 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:06:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Previous participants on this show are suing the production company for giving them a raw deal... http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/19/entertainment/love-it-list-it-hgtv-suit/
007meow ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:48:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why am I not surprised?
knifehandzzz ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:04:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate those 2 hosts. Please tell me your aunt said they were cunts so i can hate them even more.
tree_dweller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:23:15 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend who used to do some work for HGTV. She said they were both really nice, but David more so. Hilary actually kind of screwed him over by asking for way too much money to come back to the show...so they just replaced both of them.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:52:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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GotHamm ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:54:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My uncle's brother was on it too and he kept his house too! He said he would list it but we all knew there was no way he would sell it.
Mayor_of_Smashville ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:26:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So that would be...your uncle.
fuckswithboats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:53:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or his dad. Maybe they have a fucked up relationship -- who are we to judge?
dogfins25 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:48:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah my Mom used to work for the company that does the show and she told me about this. I heard recently the company is being sued.
Malonik ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:22:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm... wow... it hadn't occurred to me that they might do that.. bastards.
MoralisticCommunist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:22:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You really can't trust a word they say on reality TV.
extracanadian ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:05:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LOL same with friends of mine here in Toronto. Plus, all of the home buying shows, the buyers already bought their house and the whole thing is just for show. They show three houses, one being the buyers already purchased home and the other two are usually not even listed. Then the client "buys" the house they liked the most.
hellofriendsitsme ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:07:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My life is a lie
Xtynct08 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:15:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The hosts and home owners are always so cunty on this show. The network must tell them to literally be as bitchy as possible.
rachie27 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:12:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude....not cool.
BallShapedMan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:18:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You just burst my bubble.....
pissoffa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:29:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was just talking to someone who was on the show. SZme exact story. They filmed both answers and aired that they left the house even though they kept it.
Nicbudd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:40:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This makes so much sense. I was watching an episode and the wife was repeatedly saying "List it", but when she saw the house renovated, she immediately changed her mind.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:41:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the cat's out of the bag now that the show is being sued by a couple who claim their home was ruined.
edwartica ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:42:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nooooooooooooooooo. Say it ain't so!
madmoneymcgee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:45:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which is weird because the Love It lady has won like 2/3 of the show but maybe the producers like the sentimentality of that.
GLOOTS_OF_PEACE ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:15:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
why the fuck do you have to tell us what you edited? it's not necessary and just makes your comment longer. I'm going to crack down on this on reddit
maradonavselvis ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:20:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually found out that some of the House Hunters episodes they know which house they will pick ahead of time before they even shoot and make them pretend to truly consider some of the other options after they buy one.
xaanthar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:59:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Love it or list it" always seemed the most scripted to me, mostly because every episode has the same format.
The remodel always asks for "a miracle", then they start digging and something comes up "unexpected" and the contractor that the lady get snippy with each other, then one of the couple says "Why did she say she could build the Taj Mahal in our rec room if she couldn't deliver??!!"
Then they go house hunting and the first two houses are ridiculous one way or another and even the "List it" person in the couple says "He just doesn't get us AT ALL!!"
After each segment, the couple has a "candid" moment out on the street where we're "eavesdropping" in their conversation.
Then at the end, the remodel works out better than expected and the realtor guy pulls the perfect house out of his ass at the last minute and now they need to make a serious decision.
Most of those shows I can suspend disbelief to see what kinds of houses they're looking at or whatnot, but that show is just total crap.
Rissadea ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:41:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On the HGTV vibe, had friends get approached to do house hunters...after they'd moved into a house. So you go see two houses you won't buy and the home you're already living in and pretend to pick the one you already bought.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:33:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That explains the pattern I noticed. I'd probably say 8/10 episodes end with the husband getting his way as established in the beginning of the episode. As a married man with several married friends, I know there's no way it would happen like that, that often.
llbean ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:39:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nooooo no no no no no. I will erase this from my mind like every other terrible disgusting story on reddit.
AoF-Vagrant ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:44:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's obviously the most scripted show on HGTV, possibly even more fake than the tan on the Flip or Flop girl.
But if someone ever tells me that Property Brothers is all fake, my soul will be crushed. If I were to list my 3 favorite TV shows of all time, it would be that, Buying & Selling and Brother vs Brother.
cheeeeeseburgers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:56:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
every episode features the camera crew "overhearing" the homeowners argument/discussion as they walk down the block. its soo disgustingly fake and the fact that they do it in every episode is worse.
ChillKyle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:01:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Has any single/non married people been on the show? Seems like married couples are the only ones on the show.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:08:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which episode was this?
xXGARR377Xx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:44:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, it has some personal info about their family in it, I'm not going to say. Sorry!
DJSpekt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:19:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Noooooo you've shattered my vision of HGTV :((((
TwoNotOne ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:04:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've never been more excited to tell my mom something than I am right now
xXGARR377Xx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:14:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go forth my child, and ruin others dreams!!
TwoNotOne ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:06:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think I just ruined her day... I thought she would think it was cool...
xXGARR377Xx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:23:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good, good! With this sort of power, I can FINALLY take down reality TV!!!!!!!!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHA
plantsandplants ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:00:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend's house in Italy was on house hunters international. It was not at all for sale and the woman trashed all of his mom's interior design choices.
snark_attak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:14:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What was their huge, hidden issue that cancelled a must-have piece of their renovation? And was it real, or made up?
ALYXZYR ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:10:08 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
a little late to the party but I just went to google "Love It or List It" because I had never heard of the show and the first thing to come up was an article about this reddit thread lol
https://www.yahoo.com/news/people-furious-hgtvs-love-list-141548984.html
xXGARR377Xx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:56:35 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's so cool! I can now say I made it in life!!!!!!! Thanks for sharing! :)
Internomer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:20:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is this the UK version with Kirsty and Phil? Or some other version that won't break my heart to learn is staged? :(
Fratboy37 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 22:24:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Waaaat? Hillary and David 4 lyfe
xXGARR377Xx ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:38:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is the one near Toronto Canada
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:11:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see a big billboard of David way north of the city. I was pretty surprised he was up in the Creemore area. Thought he way more suburban vaughan area.
truenoise ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:37:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So relieved! I heart Kristy and Phil (the British version).
[deleted] ยท 2238 points ยท Posted at 15:07:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
My cousin was on a Toronto dating show called Matchmaker many years ago. She said it was completely scripted and she met her "blind date" before filming so the producers could go over the script with them. They were given a list of ridiculous and racy questions to ask each other and encouraged to make out if they actually liked each other or to cause a scene and be dramatic if they didn't really click.
triface1 ยท 705 points ยท Posted at 15:35:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's so lame.
sbroll ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 20:45:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
but not surprising
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:02:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You mean fun, haha. Lame to watch, fun to film.
MushroomToast ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:26:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a great title for a reality show about how they script reality shows.
extracanadian ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:14:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They probably thing this song is about them.
mr_lab_rat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and that's why I hope reality TV dies
Tiekal ยท 367 points ยท Posted at 17:32:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I worked the launch party of this show. It was pretty bad. No one seemed to care or want to be there.
The host was strutting around like the next Ryan seacrest.
The people on the show were all kinda just standing around.
ProfessorWeeto ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 22:03:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds like Toronto in a nutshell
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:23:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The host was Andrew Anthony. His voice is in almost every damn commercial now and is the voice of EA sports. Great life if you can get it.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:30:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Coolbeanery ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:44:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The American Idol host
adamks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A person you could very easily Google.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
That guy in the US who's only talent is being really good looking.
Edit: a word
Chocolatefix ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:09:11 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's actually a good TV and radio host. He knows how to interact and be charismatic with the people he's talking to. It looks easy but if you've ever seen anyone who isn't talented at doing interviews or hosting it is awkward and embarrassing.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:57:03 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So by my down votes and replies to my comments it seems no one picked up on my community reference. I may have been too subtle or might be remembering it completely wrong. Sorry all.
Chocolatefix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:03 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it went right over my head
Tiekal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:34:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure he is a robot.
At one point it seemed he was working 24 hours a day between different media outlets.
[deleted] ยท 317 points ยท Posted at 17:52:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A friend was on a few episodes of the short-lived, "real-world" type show called "The Lofters" in Toronto (ca. 2001 or 2002). The friend was the love interest of one of the actual lofters. At a party on set (filmed, part of the show), the friend got drunk and "handsy." After, the entire group had a debriefing about his creepiness. All of this was a major "arc" of the couple of episodes, and all of it was on camera. Finally, the friend was dumped at the end of the episode (specifically in reference to the party creepiness). For my friend- group, it was such a cringey, awkward time. Everyone saw it on TV. No one really talked about it. It was a bad time.
[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 23:08:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A guy and a girl I went to high school with made out on a shitty Comedy Network show in Toronto called "Keys to the VIP." She acted like she didn't know him and he picked her up, which was the goal of the show.
doubbg ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 00:05:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nooooooo. I used to love that show. D-bags competing to pick up girls. It was hilarious.
writewhereileftoff ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:29:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This one hurt me more than the others...
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:58:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember that show! I used to watch it all the time. That does sound totally cringey.
Geriatric_Punk ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:42:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I frigging loved the first season of that show so much. The second season bombed so bad though with that stupid voting thing.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:09:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The now host of Big Brother Canada was on season 1!
always_reading ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:58:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jennifer Hedger, who was also on season 1, is a co-host for TSNs Sport Centre. My husband watches that show religiously and I've always thought it was neat that I recognized her from reality tv.
I also just found out that Mathieu Chantelois, also from season 1, is the executive director of Toronto Pride. Something I discovered today because I was watching him be interviewed about this whole Black Lives Matter sit-in that happened yesterday during the Pride parade.
Sidekickgirl75 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:15:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I knew I recognized him! (TIL)
June1111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:31:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's THAT Mathieu?! Wow. Learned something new today.
akesh45 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:06:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is he actually cringey?
[deleted] ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 21:01:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At the time, he'd done a few awkward things (in HS), but this was more due to inexperience than any actual character issue. Iirc, the thing he did was pretty benign ("handsy" is pretty accurate, though I might temper this with "over-familiar"), but in the show it was made out to be a big, dramatic deal. At the end, when he was broken up with on camera, he was graceful, mature, and poised.
The way it was shot, though showing real moments of real events, really embellished the situation for dramatic effect. They really upped the creepiness factor, in order to "narrativize" the events of the show.
UncleVanya ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lol savage
lokiseas ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:05:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man, the Lofters was such and interesting show. I can't remember this specific instance buuuuuut your friend is probably happy about that anyways. I think it's cool many of the Lofters have enjoyed continued success on Canadian tv!
designut ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:28:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know! I loved it, too!
PMach ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:06:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've been curious about The Lofters. Apparently one of the participants is now the host of Big Brother Canada (and she actually seems super cool).
Malt_9 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:06:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Another (Jen) Is on TSN and has been for many, many years. Shes cool.
inatowncalledarles ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:42:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think one of them is a host on TSN.
Jonazq ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:53:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
do you know arissa cox? she hosts big brother canada now
Joester09 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:36:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was your friend into Jennifer Hedger?
June1111 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:30:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OH, MY GOSH! I used to love that show! I was only 12 or 13 at the time but that type of "early '20s" culture fascinated me. I liked Sandy because of the pink streaks in her hair, ha ha! Preteen me thought it was so bad-ass. And I thought Annie was gorgeous! It's crazy to see where some of them ended up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U8TV:_The_Lofters
i_dont_69_animals ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:31:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
was he tre?
bigheyzeus ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:56:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A high school teacher of mine was on one of the Toronto episodes of Blind Date. They edited the episode so much just to make him look like a tool. He brought the tape into class to point out that the dinner conversation was all fabricated - you could see different things on the table every time. I notice this in every reality show since. Subtle hints that situations are all pieced together
SagebrushID ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:05:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hope none of the contestants were like this guy.
MissMac88 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:54:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friends buddy was also on this. He's a "rapper" and a pretty big personality, but even the crazy shit he was saying was so not him. He said they pushed them to act over the top on their date.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:01:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I misread "Toronto" as "Tarantino" and thought that this story was going in a totally different direction.
FrOzenOrange1414 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:16:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if the people actually do end up liking each other and want to date? Do the people on dating shows have sex? I'd like to know more about what's scripted and not in dating "reality" shows.
hambwner ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:24:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I furiously masturbated to that show as a teenager. Still would today if I saw it again.
incaseshesees ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:37:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
friend of mine was on a dating show in NYC and was told the same thing "fight of fuck"
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:10:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey my cousin Steve was on that show! Yeah he said the same thing.
Beegrene ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:36:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So, did they make out?
MJsdanglebaby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was she ever a waitress at the Maddy?
Sidekickgirl75 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man, I forgot that show existed. People almost always ended up in a hot tub.
Butta_Butta_Jam ยท 445 points ยท Posted at 17:44:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My daughter and her boyfriend were on Divorce court. They were not married, and the shows producers helped them tailor their story (which was completely made up) to be more interesting. They are now married and since they've already been "divorced", it should last forever.
finkleismayor ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 04:50:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My cousin was on there woth her ex husband. One of the things they were arguing over was a car he left in her trailer's driveway.
In reality, they were getting along just fine but just wanted the limo ride and cash for appearing. I was pretty young so I don't remember all the details, but all I remember is flipping through the channela with my dad and backtracking when I saw her face and name. We watched in silent horror for a minute when my dad asked me not share this with anyone but I was already on the phone with my best friend telling her to put on channel 5.
erinjg43 ยท 42 points ยท Posted at 21:58:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
1) This is hilarious and 2) I wish I could upvote you twice because I love your user name.
Painkiller90 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:07:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What is divorced may never divorce?
tmbg47 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:11:50 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What is dead may never die!
Butta_Butta_Jam ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:15:56 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly
HotSeamenGG ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:05:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What is dead may never die.
just_dots ยท 2988 points ยท Posted at 16:38:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everything on Pawn Stars is scripted too. They bought a Jeep from my friend and he was even told when and how to smile or smirk when giving the interview.
Hootablob ยท 1572 points ยท Posted at 17:28:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know someone who visited the shop as a tourist and they pulled something out of the back, and handed it to him to sell them.
TradeMark- ยท 1339 points ยท Posted at 18:25:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if he wouldn't agree to their price and just walked out with the item?
dumapuma ยท 2019 points ยท Posted at 18:46:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
eye bulging hands on hips long blowing sigh I can't take that price (even though the item was reasonably priced)
Okay. I will look somewhere else. Thanks!
Walks out with Michael Jacksons shoes
EDIT: fixed spelling due to being on mobile
MachReverb ยท 1613 points ยท Posted at 19:10:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*Moonwalks out in Michael Jackson's shoes
HorseWithPooBrain ยท 90 points ยท Posted at 23:44:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
HEE HEE!!!
mentos_breath ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 23:54:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
chamon-eh
FrOzenOrange1414 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:11:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
WHOO!
oaka23 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:38:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a smooth criminal if I've ever seen one
thnderbolt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:19:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would never be able to look at the man in the mirror again if I pulled something like that.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:13:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I dont wear a childrens size 6 though
ShmooelYakov ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:40:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, not Michael's friend's shoes.
infernoofihw ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:19:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Turn 360 degrees and moonwalk out the door.
ShowStoppa718 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:53:50 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And just leave me alone.
extracanadian ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:13:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Damnit, that's the fifth time today."
scamperly ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:16:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Resonantly?
kjata ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:06:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That price really resonated with him, you know? That or it spoke to him, in the dulcet tones of James Earl Jones.
WardIsHydra ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:50:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't this roughly how 'Holes' starts?
Tentaye ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for the laugh
Emilecardinal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Palms are sweaty. Moms spaghetti!
moonwalkeek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Michael jackson
Opiate462 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:54:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Resonant pricing.. Is that when you get it for a song?
fotowca ยท 189 points ยท Posted at 21:25:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Armed guard at the door. I stopped by on a Vegas trip and there was a serious looking dude in body armor and a glock on his hip at the door. They don't show him on TV.
fucking_weebs ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:33:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I doubt it would go well for the shop/show if their non-police armed guard shot someone walking out of the store.
[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 22:49:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That could be their special "tough on terrorism" episode.
pinklips_highheels3 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 22:51:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you kidding? Their ratings would climb like a rocket.
doyou_booboo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:53:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He is not going to fucking shoot the guy. He would definitely get tackled.
berniens ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:00:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That gun ain't there for decoration.
Alphabozo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:34:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Deterrence
idgafbroski ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:41:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not much of a deterrent if you know he ain't gonna use it.
XDME ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:01:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
its a deterrence against other people with guns, not the random scrawny dude trying to walk out..
dood_here ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:10:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about a random really big dude?
XDME ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that may be more necessary then.
a_talking_face ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:25:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
An armed person is much less likely to try and perform an armed robbery on a place where they know other people are armed.
truenoise ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:47:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently Pawn Stars is shot on a set? Can't remember where I read it, though.
a_talking_face ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:26:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's Storage Wars. Pawn Stars is shot in their shop. You can actually go there.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:18:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No it is shot on a replica of their shop. Some legal reasons don't let them shoot a text her shop. To least this is what I've he he
Edit: autocorrect hadn't a fun time but I'm left it
Edit2: wow autocorrect enjoying itself
truenoise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:29 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't vouch for the veracity of the article, but this article claims they have a separate set due to some legal reason.
fotowca ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:20:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hadn't heard that, though little would surprise me. I stopped by with my old man one trip to Vegas as he watches the show. Didn't see any of the show personalities there though.
ToneBox627 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:35:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No one fets that copy of battletoads.
penguinsreddittoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, so the guard isn't that friendly looking giant.
Aroniense21 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:32:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you hear that? That's the soundofshattereddreams^
BloodyWanka ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:44:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it's probably more like "here do you want to be on the show? we'll pay you to try and sell us and item we'll give you. "
heezeydeezay ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:00:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If they cant give me what I want... I dont care about their business, Im in Vegas!
bennibenthemanlyman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:25:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In another part of the thread it says that there's an armed guard.
Dafuzz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He doesn't get paid and doesn't get on tv
a_____________a ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
then they get another tourist to redo the shot.
Opiate462 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:53:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what they call the scrap footage pile..
Trprt77 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:58:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's why they have that huge black guy sitting by the door.
gitsao ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:00:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've got a buddy who's an expert on Pawn Stars let me just call him.
BurntButterExplosion ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:01:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Please do! I'd love to hear his input.
Typed01 ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 18:44:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went there because I was in Vegas and had to see it because I loved the show. There was nothing in there. It was all suveneers and trinkets. Nothing cool. There was a a couple panting and a couple books wrapped in plastic wrap I recognized. It was really lame. Really really lame. Like they put a bunch of stuff out to shoot the show. There was just nothing in the shop to buy. Nothing like the show. Biggest let down ever.
Shrimmmp ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 20:33:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That exactly describes my visit to Antique Archaeology from American Pickers. I drove 4 hours for THIS?! A glorified gift shop, overly packed with people?
Typed01 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:07:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Yeah! And I drove past the pawn shop 2 times prior and the line was long so I waited until night and took a taxi over because I was drunk. No line later. I rode in the taxi with this huge drink and walked back to the strip with the drink. I crossed a street and almost walked into a cop car stopped at the stop sign. That was infinitely better than the pawn shop - the cop not caring what the incoming money does.
Edit: don't know how this gets negative rep.
Decyde ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:27:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, even their website is run down as fuck now with what's on there.
It's funny how everything just has a twice what it's worth value and then a button that says make an offer.
Brandon23z ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:09:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same thing with Hardcore Pawn. Went to their store in Detroit on the way to school, had all trash.
You know how in the intro of the show, Les says "E-E-E-Everything's Negotiable"? Well the DVD prices were in fact not negotiable. $4 for Return of the King on DVD is a fuckin' rip off.
bigheyzeus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:50:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, most of the shit there has "as seen on tv" and "not for sale" signs everywhere. It's like a crappy little museum of the show and not a store
sauceofconcern ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:37:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like my trip to Venice
JayS_23 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:18:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What do you mean
PMmeURbooobs ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:14:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's been to Venice and that comment reminded him of it
piexil ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:14:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It looks so much bigger on the show too
Typed01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:11:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wayyyy bigger like wide angle lenses bigger. Crazy
TheDedicatedDeist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:49:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think they even shoot in the actual store.
UnrustledJimmie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:38:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They do. I was there during filming once. Everything is scripted. Everything.
37214 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:06:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Biggest let down ever?
Typed01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:18 on July 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. Because I was so excited. Would be like if I bought a viper but it drove like a leaf and couldn't return it. Not my worst lay was as bad as visiting the pawn shop.
PreOmega ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:22:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That doesn't make sense... They don't film while tourists are walking in. Any time they are filming they only have extras looking around. they have enough people sending in applications to bring their item onto the show that they wouldn't need to just hand things to people...
notpaulrudd ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:53:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't trust a single post in this entire thread unless it can be verified, it's like one large game of telephone.
Hootablob ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:02:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was season 2. I imagine a lot has changed since then. I'll have to ask him about it again. I shoe rented the story a little bit. He was there and they asked him if he wanted to be on the show. Im sure he had to sit around and wait for a while or maybe even come back. But needless to say he sold them a guitar he didn't own.
Twisted_Lobster ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:34:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But Pawn Stars isnt even filmed in the Actual Gold and Silver Pawn shop in vegas, its filmed on a set made to look like it... so idk what to make of your friend
Counterkulture ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:17:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Goddamnit, Mark, my whole motherfucking life is a lie!!!!
Honey, go get another 36er of America while you're at the store, please.
UnrustledJimmie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:40:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not true. I was present during filming a few years ago.
Hootablob ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:03:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well I've seen the episode, so he's not full of crap. Was season 2. Was it always filmed offsite or only the later years?
carritlover ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:04:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are they looking for a particular "look"? TL;DR I want my 15 minutes of fame, dammit!
Choco_Bacon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:32:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your tldr was longer...
carritlover ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:16:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
.............does that make me usable in a future Pawn Stars episode?
kenaldo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did he end up low balling his own item?
Counterkulture ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's why I could never be involved in something like that... because it would be impossible for me not to do that.
cha0sss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Sell me this pen."
YoungHeartsAmerica ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My father mentioned a similar incident.
mcrib ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:45:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One dollar? You have a deal, sir!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:17:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I figured that happens. Some people are really bad at acting like they're selling their grandfather's war memorabilia.
"Yeah, this was my grandfather's uniform, I'm hoping to get 2000 bucks for it."
(Later)
"Well 50 bucks was lower than what I wanted but I'm happy with what I got."
Hootablob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well they do have to frame it and all.
autranep ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 22:06:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's bullshit. That's not how the show operates at all. You're blatantly just lying...
[deleted] ยท 543 points ยท Posted at 17:14:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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iWaterApples ยท 1131 points ยท Posted at 18:55:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For the people who have not read one of 4chan's most glorious moments ever!
Here is the link: http://imgur.com/gallery/VY2xE
kaenneth ยท 542 points ยท Posted at 23:03:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eventually... http://i.imgur.com/8nlYaxk.jpg
MaxDG1013 ยท 180 points ยท Posted at 23:38:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
holy shit... so did they have battletoads the whole time, or did he get battletoads just so he can tell them, "if you want battletoads, come on in"?
gazeintotheiris ยท 252 points ยท Posted at 23:59:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The latter. IIRC they put a huge price on it so whenever people called they could reverse troll them, eg "yeah we have battletoads, that'll be $5000. when can you pick it up?"
PookiSpooks ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:58:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now I want to go buy it from them
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:57:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But then the assholes sorta win don't they? If not you can totally get me good and buy some of my games for $5000 dollars. It'd be the prank of the century!
Voltron_McYeti ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 10:53:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are the pawn stars the assholes in this situation?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:25:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah
KrazyKukumber ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:02:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why?
VTwinVaper ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 23:58:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Generally they ask for "Battletoads for the Wii," since no Wii version was ever produced.
dood_here ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:17:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not how to do it. First you work your way through every existing version, until he has the full set. Then you move to Wii.
mashkawizii ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:29:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Next: Sega megadrive
KindlyNeedHelp ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 02:38:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
this was a joke
octopornopus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:33:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
$40 for Battletoads? Are we talking new in box or just the cartridge?
KindlyNeedHelp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:22:10 on August 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know are we talking full blown assbergers or mini ass sliders?
shivanman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:14:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My local GameStop actually ordered a copy of battletoads and priced it 10k because of so many copy cat prank calls, so wouldn't be surprise me if they bought a copy for the same reason
MundaneInternetGuy ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 22:43:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 21:44:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I could not stop laughing. That is gold
Supatroopa_ ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 22:27:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And silver!
666666t ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:09:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hey i was wondering if you deal in rare books?
invisi1407 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:21:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ya got Harry Potter and the Order of the Battletoad?
666666t ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:22:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you fuckin kidding m-
Cry_Havoc1228 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:11:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
click
kaylat819 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:53:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
BATTLETOADS
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:30:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite one
xFoundryRatx ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:52:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just called and it still works. Press 1 not 4.
fragment137 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:56:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reading those felt like justice
addysol ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:43:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thats fucking hilarious.
Is Battletoads actually worth anything though?
TheNonMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a game, not really. I remember renting it when I was 3 or 4 years old. The first few levels are doable, then it goes from 1 - 100 in difficulty. I don't think there was anyone who could play this game without rage quitting, because if you lost all your lives you had to start from the very beginning, and many parts of that game are pure bullshit. I only know that because now you can play it with an emulator and use state saves.
addysol ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:24:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dammit. I've got a working cartridge just sitting there. But yeah fuck that stupid jetski thingy level
goldfishpaws ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:15:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Rigged" doesn't apply to TV, TV lies pathologically in every programme, it simply cannot help itself. Real life is dull, me getting up and going to work is an hour, but we edit it down to a few seconds. News programmes make editorial choices. A local roving reporter admitted to having bought bunches of flowers to tie to railings to "make" a shot. All of TV is lies, if it's on screen it's because of a decision someone made for it to be on screen.
payperplain ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:19:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's the origin of the battletoads prank? I don't get it.
CDBSB ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:06:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Officer Battletoad.
roundboulder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was amazing
JohnWad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This always makes me laugh.
sashir ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was a recurring thing off and on for a couple of years.
DHC2099 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll read this everytime I see it
penguinsreddittoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wonder of they still get these calls.
PMmeURbooobs ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:23:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They are tonight picks up phone
TheKingMonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That owes more than a passing nod to this which was a running joke done by radio/TV personality Iain Lee to some shitty late night phone in channel several years ago.
Is it Ghostbusters 2?
More
Even more
Moar
DysenteryDingo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for that, I cried laughing.
justsoyouunderstand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A local retro game store has a sealed and graded copy of Battletoads in a frame above the counter. Below it is a sign that says "Yes, we have Battletoads."
They're pretty cool about it too. It's for sale for around $200.
bplboston17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the boston battletoads one gets me everytime..
or the wii mat one.. does it work with webbed feet.. haha
_Vetis_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude I witnessed this (or at least a similar) thread and it just got better and better
newginger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:07:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was out loud laughing here and the fam thought I was crazy. Battletoads.
5pitf1r3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:17:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Followup gamestop one: http://imgur.com/gallery/bgnwH
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here is a pretty good video explanation of battle toads by GFM.
MingusDoo ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:57:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you, as a child of the NES generation who loved Battletoads, that was a great read & many laughs had.
MushroomToast ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:35:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ha nice try, a 4chan page layout is the most eye-gouging dreck on the internet.
Thanos_Stomps ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:46:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
oh
my
god that is fucking gold..
TheDudeWeapon ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if someone was legitimately looking for a copy?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:05:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here is a pretty good video explanation of battle toads by GFM.
Neeon__Zero ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:24:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So you have it or not
josh_the_misanthrope ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
nevar4get
elgabobravo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:07:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is not Gamestop
IMsoSAVAGE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:20:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Battletoads on wii?
awesomecutepandas ยท 258 points ยท Posted at 17:17:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I fucking knew it. I knew nobody with a sane mind would agree to sell something worth 10k for 1k.
omega884 ยท 306 points ยท Posted at 18:10:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, pretty much anyone who sells something to a pawn shop is doing that. Not that bad usually, but IIRC the best price you get from a pawn shop is something like 1/3 the price the shop thinks they can sell it at.
PM_ME_UR_A-B_Cups ยท 403 points ยท Posted at 19:28:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Duh, they still have to frame it and it's going to sit on the shelf for awhile.
ArcboundChampion ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 20:24:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But seriously, having visited many pawn shops, shit can sit there for a long time. They will do anything but take a loss to get that shit out the door if it's been too long - usually close to a year.
Psirocking ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:33:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you think the guys on Pawn Stars would have gotten rid of that ugly green Jim Morrison painting by now then
SherrickM ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:12:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And they gotta pay their friend who has nothing better to do than leave HIS job and come look at your crap.
valiantfreak ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:30:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Look, even though I am offering you 20% of what I can sell it for, I am the one taking a big risk here"
juan-jdra ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:29:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well if he never sells it, thats a 0% profit.
murdermeformysins ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:56:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the risk is the relative value of his floor space. Fat bald man has one of the most well known and respected shops in the world, anything that sits on his floor for more than a few days is costing him money when he could have anything else there that would sell in a heartbeat
Emilecardinal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:42:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a buddy who frames stuff, let me just give Him a call and hopefully we can make a deal :)
mattXIX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know you're joking but a lot of times a pawn shop will just undercut prices so they don't take a big hit on the off chance the item is stolen or worth far less by the time it comes out for sale.
hexydes ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:38:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was probably a valid argument in 1995 and before; ever since the Internet though, it's stupid-easy to just list it on eBay or Amazon, and at least make your original investment back. Any kid that used to collect baseball cards will see how NOT valuable their collection probably is.
Iorith ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:54:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pawn shops don't market to that type of person. They market to the people who need the money right now. The people who need the money to turn their electricity on, or who are 3 months behind on rent.
UncleVanya ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:32:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
or are dope sick
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:45:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The point is, any pawn shop with half a brain, will buy the shit from the down on his luck guy for 1/3 the selling point and list it online for realistic value. So now the don't have to worry as much about the origin of the items. I don't see how your comment, however true, at all related to the one you replied to.
PM_ME_YOUR_FELINE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:46:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read that in Rick's voice.
Myster_Perfect ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:14:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think they buy it at 1/3 the price its fair market value and sell it at 2/3 its value.
victoriaseere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What are we counting as "fair market value"? Usually they buy it for less than one could get in a private deal and sell it for more than one would pay in a private deal.
Myster_Perfect ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:14:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fair market would be what it could be sold for at auction. Theres a lot of factors that go Into the price a pawn broker will give a person. As a rule of thumb I use the rule of thirds, as it relates to their signage with the 3 balls. Every shop is different and every person is different as well as the things trying to be hocked. They dont use a price grid system but more of a gut instinct and try to squeeze every dollar they can. Hope this helps.
victoriaseere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:10:14 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
An auction? Now you're just being silly.
Myster_Perfect ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:17:08 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you think the pawn brokers dont look at ebay? Thats how fair market is established, where you have society put a price on an item.
victoriaseere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:38:32 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, right, that kind of auction.
The fair market price is the price one can reasonably expect to get on the market. Which the pawn shops will pay less than and charge more than in exchange for convenience.
Myster_Perfect ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:45:48 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I dont frequent these places because I know how they will low ball a person on price because thry know they person trying to sell has no other options for cash. I had to sell a bass amp once for car parts, I actually got a great deal on it surprisingly, maybe 1/4 under retail. I knew a guy who ran one for a few years but the place went nder as he was fencing stolen goods. Lol the guys nick name was crook, with a name like that I suspect it was only a matter of time. However I was friends with one of his employees from outside his business, we grew up near each other, and these were the systems they tried to go by with the exception of trying to squeeze every dollar out of the seller they possibly could.
KrazyKukumber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you think they're selling it at 2/3 of its value, why don't you just go in there and buy everything, then re-sell it and make a fortune?
Myster_Perfect ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Why doesnt anybody? I prefer ebay. Most of the stuff they have at pawn shops I dont want or need. A person can have only so many diamond rings and power tools. Plus a diamond ring is far cheaper in a pawn shop if you know exactly what your looking for as compaired to a jewler. A jewler is going to have a much better selection of stones, sets, setting, sizes ect. But I guarantee if you find a perfect match between to rings the pawn shop will be cheaper hands down as they buy according to weight. Jewlers sell acording to the time and artisinal expertise.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:58:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went to the Pawn Stars shop during the height of the show. There was like an hour long wait to get in, but a guy was canvassing the line saying "yo, if you're selling something, don't wait in line." I happened to have a piece of consumer electronics new in the box that I had gotten for free at the conference I was at in Vegas, so I was like "fuck it, I don't even think that will fit in my luggage anyway" so I grabbed it out of my trunk, went up, walked in and sold it. The guy looked at the item (new in box), looked on eBay, and offered me just a little low than what it was going for on eBay, used. I was like "yeah sounds good" and sold it. I actually got more than I expected (it was an $100 thing and I got like $44).
jdepps113 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:14:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Really depends on the item, how reliably they think they can get a certain amount for it, and how quickly it'll sell.
If you walk in with something they know they can turn around really quickly at a certain price, and you're a decent negotiator, you could probably get most of the value of it. Like junk silver for example.
hewhoreddits6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't that true for just about every pawn shop?
BasicDesignAdvice ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:49:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pawn is a loan business. A lot of people come back for the item. As a business, it has very little to do with selling the items.
NorthernerWuwu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:37:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, the idea is that you are supposed to retrieve your item rather than letting it go for sale. It's a short-term loan at lousy rates secured by an asset worth several times what the loan was.
I mean, you don't pawn something unless you are desperate or the thing is stolen.
munchies777 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The thing is though that people aren't selling something like Elvis' guitar at pawn shops for 1/3rd the price like in the show. They are selling their laptop or something because they need money fast for whatever reason.
hewhoreddits6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:07:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think most people understand the purpose of a pawn shop. Most of the time people pawn or sell stuff because they really need the money RIGHT AWAY, or they don't want to go through the hassle of maybe getting the market value of it.
poochyenarulez ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:57:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uhh, pawn stores are real though. Do you really think the stores buy a 10k item for 9.5k?
These-Days ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:08:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, he's gotta turn a profit
runetrantor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:28:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Something something the economy is doing bad.
'A few years ago, maybe, but now? Nah'
just_dots ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The worst thing is that they completely ruined a bad-ass '73 CJ. We put a lot of sweat and beers into restoring it and they basically turned it into "Pimp my Jeep"...
gillyboatbruff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look, it's the best I can do.
TheNegotiator12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well it is hard now and days to find people to pay top dollar for something especially if you have that odd rare item, it might take years to find the right buying and you have to search too so sometimes it's best to sell it too the 1st decent offer you can get as long as it not as a loss of course
Isord ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure most pawn shop business is on actual pawning anyways, not straight up sales.
aPlasticineSmile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of these places work on desperation. You need the 50 you can get for your TV for the electric bill....they count on you defaulting and not bring able to pay back. So they get the 30 you were able to give over 2 months AND they sell your TV for 100.
cursh14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:35:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They 100% will do that in real life. Trust me, I've gone to flea markets my entire life. Sometimes you can't believe the prices (on both ends of the spectrum).
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All of the prices are agreed upon beforehand. I'm sure that the people who are selling the stuff are real are real but they are not just spontaneously losing $10,000 on something that they thought they were going to get for a lot more. It's all planned beforehand.
Kdj87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like nobody on here has ever actually seen Pawn Stars. The prices they give are usually a little better than that. I'm not saying it's real, but everyone heavily exaggerates how little Rick gives
Picklestasteg00d ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 22:33:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
During my visit to Vegas, me and my buddy went to the Pawn Stars' shop to see a sale in action.
We walked in on a recording session. Here's how it looked:
A man walks in with a set of signed Air Jordans. Chum Lee greets him. Chum tells him he needs to "call an expert, who should arrive in half an hour".
Two minutes later, a man walks out of the back. He inspects the pair and says it's worth $200. Chum offers the guy fifty bucks for it. The man is told to say (and I quote) "I want to sell them, but that price is too low."
Chum offers sixty. The man is told to take the offer. He takes the offer. Successful sale?
The real sale actually begins. The cams are moved to a different star while Chum gives the guy an actual estimate.
caterham09 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:38:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly that's not too bad. At least it's a real person who's trying to sell something. The cool part about the show for me was always just the cool stuff and seeing rundown items get refinished.
Halvus_I ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:52:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its plainly obvious. Chumley ....no one is that stupid.
lustywench99 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:34:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Chumley is the worst doing his scripted "I know this random information about this item". I'm always like... you don't know that. You had someone hand you that info two minutes ago.
Calkky ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:45:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not only is it scripted, but it's filmed on a sound stage. The easiest way to tell is to look at how the "customers" behave while the negotiations are taking place. If these were actual people in the shop, they'd be watching the camera crew. Instead, they're robotically browsing the fake displays in the background.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:12:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're right...the area is closed off. But technically it isn't a sound stage. There are two parts to the shop. The public area is not where they film.
sailorcybertron ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:47:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know about Gold & Silver, but I was in Jay and Silent Bob's Secret Stash while they were filming a segment for Comic Book Men. The producers placed our group in strategic places around the store and told us to just stand there and look like we were browsing or reading comics. We were also told to not put things back in the wrong place or Walt would get pissed.
munchies777 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:47:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've been in the shop before, and at least some of it is filmed there. It looks just like the show, and some of the items from the show are sitting out. When they film though, they get the real customers out of the store and have extras walk around like you say.
iFINALLYmadeAcomment ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:39:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This water tower does not pass muster.
-Oc- ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:17:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's just sad. I used to watch Pawn Stars religiously when it first came out, I knew that the "witty banter" and "wacky hijinks" from the 'stars' was faked, but I always assumed the items and the customers was real.
In my mind the way it worked was if you had an interesting item you'd call the shop, they'd ask you if you wanted to be on the show, got in contact with the producers and scheduled a filming day with other potential sellers, they'd film the haggling and perhaps "encourage" you to either be pissed off or highly emotional but otherwise it would be unscripted... Guess I was wrong. :(
TamerVirus ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:27:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did they call up a buddy who specializes in Jeeps?
just_dots ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even worse, after they bought it they had a guy who said "Doesn't know much about Jeeps" fix it up and fuckit up at the same time.
WhiteOrca ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:32:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They called my aunt to try and get her to sell some of her Houdini memorabilia (she runs the Houdini museum in Scranton, PA) they wanted her to pretend that she came in without being asked so that they could research whatever item she would sell them and they could act like they knew shit about it. She turned them down.
lynxexp ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:45:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was in Vegas for vacation and visited the shop. I was approached by one of the shows producers and asked if I wanted to be in the show. I was then taken to a studio shop next door where they filmed. I was told to just walk around like I was browsing the shop. Obviously was scripted as they stopped and took multiple takes but was still fun.
fabelhaft-gurke ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:59:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like to believe that everything on Hardcore Pawn is completely real though and don't you dare tell me otherwise.
munchies777 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From what I've heard other people say when this comes up, Hardcore Pawn is actually more real than Pawn Stars. The guys in Hardcore Pawn supposedly are actually seen working in the store. The people that flip out are asked to do it for the show though. The Pawn Stars guys on the other hand only show up at the store when it's time to film. When I visited, no one ever seen in the show was working in the store.
Tsukimizu ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:44:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I visited the shop a year or so back, they announced over a PA system that the store was closing in less then 30 minutes to film an episode of the show. The also picked people randomly to stay in the store and "Shop"
somberstricken ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:16:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That show drives me crazy anyways. The thought that everybody with something expensive thinks they are going to get full value at a pawn shop is ridiculous. It's shot on mock up set too I heard. Not even in the real pawn shop.
Just_For_Da_Lulz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:11:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Producer: "Okay, now smile like the fat one said something funny."
Friend: "Wait, which one's the fat one? They're all fat."
Producer: "Beautiful, use it! Now smile and laugh like they said something funny!"
Friend: "But no one's even talking, I don't get it--"
Producer: "Fuck it, we'll add it in post!"
gerbil_george ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:33:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember reading a post a while back about a coke machine that they bought and restored on the show. But the model they bought and the finished product after it was "restored" we're two completely different models
caterham09 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:39:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That definitely ruins it for me
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:34:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't stand that show or any of those pawn shop shows. I don't like storage wars either. So stupid.
SaLexi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.lespaulforum.com/forum/showthread.php?165479-Now-I-know-where-those-quot-Pawn-Stars-quot-Les-Pauls-really-came-from
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everything on Pawn Stars is fake.
Killboypowerhed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pat the nes punk went on to "sell" his NWC carts. There was no intention to sell them and it was literally just for a segment for the show
ThriceGreatestHermes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It makes sense to change your policies as you get more media attention, but Gold and Silver Pawnshop was on Insomniac with Dave Attel and Rick was all hey Dave check out my Nazi daggers. Suddenly on the history channel someone comes in with a Nazi plate and Rick explains its historical value and then goes sorry I don't deal in Nazi items.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:02:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't really watch the show regularly but i do vaguely remember Rick at some point saying he doesnt deal in Nazi memorabilia anymore. So maybe there's a story behind it or something.
PartyPoison98 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not everything. IIRC the singer from A Day To Remember was on it before they were famous and he sold an old guitar that he regrets selling
Sendmeloveletters ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend worked on that show and told me that the low-value items are real, and the ones where the guy finds like a billion dollar fork from the civil war in his grandma's walls are always fake and the haggling is completely scripted and directed.
My buddy was a bartender at a bar that did a restaurant makeover show, and a friend's girlfriend works at another that did a different show. My buddy said the producers brought a rat to "find" and my homegirl said they were instructed to "fight and bicker" so she pretended to not get along with her bff, and they faked epic workplace nemeses.
NuteIla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate how they never try to get close to the asking price. I'd like to think the few situations where they did get close to asking price the seller was smart and reminded them they had a TV show advertising all these "hard to sell" collectors items.
aSc4rYGh0sT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Is this good? Because I feel like this is pretty good."
just_dots ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:22:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's it!
That's the money shot my friend!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ya I know pawn stars, the shop they show in tv isn't the actual shop they own. It's against the law or something on Las Vegas to have own shop televised or some shit.
TheNegotiator12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:35:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not everything, from what I herd from a couple of collectors I follow who went on the show or tired is that they pre screen now and days your item, if they pick you they call up ahead of time the "experts" (what you really think they are waiting on hand and foot for rick lol) so they have some time to dig up some history of the item and give rick some time to look smart for the show. The price negotiation part is real the rest is just pre thought up and don't expect to see Rick or the others in the shop if you walk right in I don't think they hang out there much anymore
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you think anything from pawn stars is real, then i feel bad for you and everybody else.
ElQuackers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:57:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's the episode with the fossils from the Mazon Creek that gets me. "I'm just gonna ring up my museum buddy, Scott" like fuck you two are friends outside the show. He then values two fossil ferns at $1000. They're worth no where near that at all, I don't know any palaeontologists who would buy two carbonised ferns for that much especially when they're so abundant at the locality. Made me mad
WarWizard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They make the shop look WAY bigger on the show. It is actually a pretty small place.
tang81 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Makes me wonder what happened to the chick they suddenly tried to hire. Was on a couple of episodes, then sent to work "night shift" then just dissapeared.
jroddie4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:44:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
so that's why it looks so bad.
Corporal_Steve ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm okay with that, all i'm interested in is learning about cool stuff.
vanduzled ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit, I like that show. So that's the reason why some "expert" will come in easily when they need them.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend that was a "stand in" for a real seller. He signed an NDA, but told me everything I wanted to know anyway. I know quite a bit about how the shoot works, but don't know if anyone cares to hear from an unverifiable source though.
Some of it is fake, some is real. For example, they sold the item for thousands of dollars, but on TV it "sold" for hundreds. So there was a real sale, but it wasn't as stupid as it appeared on TV. There's a lot more to it also...retakes, coaching from the producers, etc. Some shoots take place over the course of a few days even though they appear to be 20min long on TV.
Time stretching happens on Shark Tank also. I heard from a friend of a friend that was on Shark Tank...they interview you for 2-3hrs and chop it down to a few minutes for TV.
STICH666 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:44:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pat The NES Punk was on it too. He would never sell his NWC cart.
centex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:31:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Funny thing is Dave Attell visited them on his show Insomniac before they were famous and it was just a piece of shit pawn shop. They showed the guy haggling for a toaster at like 2AM.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:52:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went to Vegas right after the show started and caught the time in between filming. I was shocked to see chum lee actually selling shit to customers and the old granpa "Old Man" was sitting behind the counter filling some paperwork. It looked totally legit but that was way back in 2009. On my most recent trip to Vegas I walked by and was shocked to see 100 feet line of people waiting to get in!!! I spoke to one of the guys who waited in line, he said it's not a pawn shop anymore you just go there and buy bunch of overpriced pawn stars memorabilia. Hats, T-shirts and shit. The guys are only there when they are filming an episode and they are very selective who they let in inside.
PavelBertuzzi4413 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jeep you say? Do go on...
just_dots ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jeep I do say, have, I did.
Where do I go now?
PavelBertuzzi4413 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:11:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We go wheeling B)
SirRogers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Best I can do is a slight grin. There aren't that many customers looking for a full smile, but I do have a buddy in town that specializes in upturned mouths, so I'll give him a call.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:17:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My cousin was one of their "good friends" who knew comic books.
He brought his own comic book in for the shoot. You wonder how the immediately noticed ever nuance of a collectible? Because it's theirs
T_Right ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:59:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get him to do an AMA??
graaahh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:14:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I saw a thing online once where somebody analyzed a clip from that show in which the shop was buying someone's vintage guitar. The person writing it did some detective work and found out the "vintage guitar" was being sold in a guitar shop like a block away, that happened to be run by the guy who supposedly already sold the guitar to the pawn shop.
Derglas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:20:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In the first season there's a dude who sells a coke machine to them, and in turn the pawn shop get it restored by this other guy . The guy who sells the coke machine originally later is the brother of the guy who restored it.
Imhotepcharter ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:13:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
definitely fake. Saw one of their episodes where there were 2 different angles but and item was misplace so to me the whole show was automatically fake.
FuturelyFamous ยท 216 points ยท Posted at 20:42:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some friends of mine went on Cash Cab. One guy was chosen the day before and told to come with up to 4 friends to a certain spot the next afternoon. They met a producer who hailed the cab and were told they were going to "a game show". They had to reshoot getting into the cab because my one friend said something like, "what are the chances?! we're on our way to ANOTHER game show!".
hdulgs ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 08:58:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on Cash Cab with 2 other buddies, I was the only one who didn't know that I was gonna be on it.
The rest of it was real, besides the cash, we never got it.
FuturelyFamous ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 20:14:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They take back the cash after filming and then send a cheque to the person they contacted originally. Most likely, your buddy got the money and never shared, lol.
charlietango13 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:51:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought they handed out the cash when the passengers got out of the cab??
NoWhammies10 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 14:09:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like most "cash" on game shows, it's prop money. The producers take back the "cash" and mail you a cheque. They do the same on Let's Make A Deal.
hdulgs ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:48:51 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, we got notes with the hosts face on them lol.
When we got out of the cab, the host told us that we wouldn't get the money for a while. We all laughed because we thought he was telling a joke. He looked at us straight faced and said "I'm serious". 6 years later, we're still waiting. Any day now, any day.
NoWhammies10 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 12:16:13 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did it ever air? By law, in the U.S., the production company has to pay out within 180 days of the initial airing of the show.
hdulgs ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 12:46:25 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It did indeed air. However, I was unlucky enough to be on the Australian version of the show.
Holanz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:14 on October 19, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about all the times the driver says that they can win some cash for a good night out?
DerpSherpa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:33:07 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because taxes.
Missymay2002 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:21:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I figured they kind of had to have consent/some kind of staging for it.
I really hope most of that show really is scripted though, because 80% of the people that get into that cab are fucking braindead. Drunk and/or stoned maybe.
molly__hatchet ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:59:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So my dream of randomly getting into the Cash Cab one day is CRUSHED?
0rgal0rg ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:12:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on it too. Didn't win any cash but we did get some really shitty coffee mugs as a participation ribbon. Fuck.
(Entering the vehicle is staged. Exiting the vehicle is too. There is a producer in the front seat. The person behind the front passenger seat has to give every final answer.)
buttononmyback ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:21:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's funny because whenever the people get in the cab, adjust their seatbelts and seem generally kind of aloof, the lights in the ceiling start going all wacky and the contestants look all around like they're "shocked" and "bewildered" at the flashing lights. Like, don't they know that's what happens on the show?
ohgooser ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:49:02 on July 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My cousin was on Cash Cab Toronto! Genuinely just casually got in a cab, her reaction was hilarious and she won $200 which was wonderful because she was super pregnant. Didn't know what team Wayne Gretzky was on when he was at his highest point in his career (Oilers) and my dad hasn't let her live it down since.
[deleted] ยท 2149 points ยท Posted at 15:25:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Merry_Pippins ยท 1699 points ยท Posted at 17:37:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love that Mrs. Diddy is a kind woman!
CellularBeing ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 18:33:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ms. Diddly on the other hand...
plokijuh1229 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:47:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
RIP Maude
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:37:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget Mrs. Dudley.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:30:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She wouldn't have had Pac killed.
wildistherewind ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:38:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She wouldn't shoot someone who threw money in her face and have Mrs. Shyne take the bid.
coolcoolawesome ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:48:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Formerly known as Puff Mommy
Shoopdawoop9001 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:42:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She was probably sweeter then the cakes she was judging!
angrydeanerino ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:39:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like Lil Dicky's mom was right.
CLUB94 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:01:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I want you to know that I appreciate this comment immensely
JasXD ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:22:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jewish mothers a little bit more though
ItchyTriggaFingaNigg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:06:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, listened to that for the first time today and knew this comment would be here.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:42:46 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
reference .
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:30:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mrs. Combs? It's a shame her son is a murderer
tekhnomancer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:48:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad the old Diddy biddies aren't all shitty.
Knight12ify ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:13:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of ironic that her son is scum.
zzyzx00 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:12:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
she prefers to go by her previous name of "mrs. daddy".
Vamking12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:13:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like damn she just wanted some cake
Schizophrenic-ish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:19:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mrs. Burd was right!
shamelessnameless ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:16:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
:)
shamelessnameless ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:17:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She's pretty fine too
NilesCranee ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:43:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Mrs diddy" threw me off for a sec knowing diddy is gay.
BenAdaephonDelat ยท 519 points ยท Posted at 17:53:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can forgive shows like this or Property Brothers if they do this behind the scenes. For one thing, most people probably watch these shows to see cool houses and not for the implied reality of the purchase, and for another, no one would want to wait around for escrow to get on with their remodel.
tah4349 ยท 530 points ยท Posted at 22:58:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is me. I like House Hunters International, but just so I can eyeball what houses and apartments look like around the world. Really, I just want to watch "Cribs: Regular People Edition"
baldylockz ยท 228 points ยท Posted at 03:26:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"yo yo, check it out... this the kitchen, where almost everyday I heat up some frozen waffles in this 4 slice toaster I got at Target. The countertops are straight-out of Home Depot. The fridge was a floor model, I got 20% off 'cause there was a dent in the door. BALLER! Let's walk 7 feet real quick and I'll show you the living room/family room/game room/bedroom. 70 square feet of pure grey carpet. It was white. I got the door over there. Peep hole and shit. Word. "
loudsnoringdog ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:32:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You have set the bar too high. My house will never live up to the majesty of yours :(
CakeAndDonuts ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:28:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You forgot the key phrase "and this is where the magic happens."
octopornopus ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:26:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah OP, is the toilet just a regular lever, or a dual-flush water saver? Does it have a wet wand to abracadabra the dingleberries away?
EvangelineTheodora ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:44:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If my house was clean, I'd make a walkthrough video for you. I live on the second floor of a house built in 1900, and it's pretty cool.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:26:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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splelling ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:29:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure there is a reddit cribs sub you know.
EvangelineTheodora ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:55:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My area has a lot of old and run down houses, and we saw about 50 (or so it feels like) when we were trying to buy a house. They were very neat to go through, but very scary.
bimbobimbo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:25:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Im interested
truenoise ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:41:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I watch it to see where I might be able to afford to live. Yes to Florence, Italy, no to the most recent one in Mexico ($680K for a 3 bedroom house).
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:30:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Sector_Corrupt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:53:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the magic of different markets. I will probably try desperately to get a fixer upper for 500k or so, but ~800k seems to be the sweet spot in my market for activity, and the average is up around 1 million or so. I could move an hour's drive away and the houses are still 300 - 400k.
truenoise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:42:27 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of the recent Love it or List it (UK) a couple had purchased a flat in London on the Thames in 2006 for (insert British pound mark)350K. It's now worth 1.1 million pounds. That is insane.
zorthos1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:13:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just for reference, I think shows like A Place in the Sun are real, as they do tons of real property advice, property sale roadshows etc.
Turtle_Shaft ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:47:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Watch the redman episode of cribs then
g3istbot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:35:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this should be a youtube series.
Just get people to submit their content/videos and put them up on the channel. Probably requires minimal editing and I'm sure it would be a hit.
[deleted] ยท 71 points ยท Posted at 19:40:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I still enjoy those shows even though I know that they are scripted. I love watching the ones that take place in New York City just for the sheer astoundment that I find myself in when I see how tiny the houses are yet the price tag is 2.5 million dollars. Townhomes in Greenwich Village go for over a million dollars but in my area they go for like $70,000 if that. Nuts.
Ominimble ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:12:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are some little apartments on some of those shows based in NYC that were the size of my bedroom and they cost upwards of a million.
My bedroom is the smallest room in the house, and the whole house itself was like $100,000. Just goes to show how ridiculous pricing is in NYC.
PM_ME_CHUBBY_GALS ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:21:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or goes to show how no one wants to live where you are.
Ominimble ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:36:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Rochester, New York is pretty awful, yeah... wouldn't blame somebody for not wanting to come here.
UncleXX ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:45:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah. I just moved here. I like it. It's nice.
Ominimble ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:58:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It won't stay that way, friend... it won't stay that way.
RyanCacophony ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:57:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I moved from there to NYC a few years ago. I went from from a huge bedroom in a house in Roc to a few apartments in NYC, none of which ever had a room as my previous place, all costing over 3x the rent of my Rochester place. And yet, my official policy on Rochester is I do not want to be there unless I'm getting paid lol. I'm definitely a city person and its hard to imagine living anywhere but NYC or a similarly sized city
creativexangst ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:07:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aw, I miss Rochester :( no work though.
Destroyer_101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
or a house in Sydney, Australia for 4 million AUD.
MBTAHole ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 20:32:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The walk throughs on house hunters are staged. The buyer already owns one of the three homes however that's pretty obvious since in real life you don't just look at three houses and make a buying decision. It can be a very long process.
funkmatician2014 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:41:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite, which I use to annoy my wife on a constant basis, is the lady whose complaint was, 'I hate this shower curtain.' And used this as a reason to not like the house.
Shellshock1122 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:05:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
if there's only 1 house they look at without furniture it's always that one because the house is in escrow and pretty much ready for them to move in.
MBTAHole ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:09:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see we have an expert at the HH drinking game
Shellshock1122 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:19:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
if they don't go with what the wife wants finish your beer. man cave man cave man cave
yourname146 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:38:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, I only looked at two. The first sold because we dragged our feet for a day.
tits_mcgee0123 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:00:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. And in the case of like, house hunters, it ensures that you don't spend a whole episode filming only for the sale to fall through and the couple to go buy a house you didn't film.
OBO786 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:57:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god. I'm reading Malazan right now. Sweet username!
BenAdaephonDelat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:10:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks! If you're on book 1, don't despair about the writing. Book 1 is by far the worst of the series, and the writing gets exponentially better after that. The first one was written as a screenplay and like years before the others so, it's not as solid as the rest of the series.
OBO786 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:32:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually really liked the first book! I'm on House of Chains right now, and so far for me it goes MoI, GoTM, and DHG. Have you finished the entire series?? Does it all pay off?
BenAdaephonDelat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:52:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have, and it does, but as you've already figured out if you've read Deadhouse Gates, there is tragedy along the way.
frecklessobe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:07:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This makes sense to me too because as someone who has gone through the house buying process, it would make sense that they have already bought the house since it is long and tedious.
[deleted] ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 17:01:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"People living in the woods..." You aren't taking about... Say it isn't so!
ragingduck ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:16:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If they are naked, then I can attest that it is as real as can be besides the fact that there is a camera crew following them. I've worked with the company that makes that show and I know some of the editors and producers.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:22:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know a guy that's been on that show several times... He is as annoying and over the top in real life as he was on the show. I found his story so, so amusing as he explained that his family "roughed it" and had to hunt for their food and pretty much lived a rugged life.
We live in a beach resort town and his family, while not filthy rich, is not poor at all. They live in a nice residential neighborhood with a pretty big house. He and his family never lived off the grid a day in their life.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:05:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shane? Is it Shane?
I hope it is Shane, I have actually found him fascinating and while he seems over the top, I think he just has some Social Anxiety which probably drives him to act the way he does, I have a good friend who reminds me of good old Shane.
I'd shake his hand in a minute, dude seems like he has seen and been through some shit.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:48:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No it's not Shane. The guy I know is the type of guy where you sadly can't blame it on social anxiety. He's someone who has always, always been desperate for attention, so it's not something you can chalk up to tough times in the military or some other tragic experience. He just needs all the attention, all the time.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:16:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, I was hoping it was Shane.
alliesan648 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:53:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thought for sure you were referring to Alaskan bush morons
AshleyMegan00 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So is that show fake/scripted? I was so intrigued by their weirdness when it first came out.
SerendipityHappens ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:45:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You mea that rhymes with..the towns? Gowns? Frowns? Frauds? Oops.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:38:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Noooooo!!!! smashes Duck Dynasty collector's glasses.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:40:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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NotTheRightAnswer ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:37:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is that slang for prostitution?
Bowman_van_Oort ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:36:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bill Clinton wipes brow
AliGLeaph ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:47:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But those are so obviously faked
Chouzetsu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shia LaBeouf!
OneGoodRib ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 21:12:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Related to the home buying - there's this show called Tiny House Hunters, where people buy small houses. One episode has a lady firefighter and one of the houses she's shown, she complains about the ugly colors, but eventually picks that house despite the colors.
But not only did she already own that house, it was custom built for her and she even specifically picked out the garish colors herself. That just makes me mad.
k9centipede ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:10:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha. That was probably fun for her. She got to recite all the complaints of the colors that she probably heard from others, while feeling smug that it was still going to actually be the winning house.
BrentTH ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:28:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This show would be way better with a midget host.
ArcboundChampion ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:30:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Yeah, I think I'll go with this house, seeing as it's already mine."
bricampbell ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:31:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My empty house was featured on "House Hunters." I was told they just wanted to show the prospective buyer houses similar to the one she had already picked for the tv show. She spent the whole segment bitching about how there was no doggy door. So the whole thing was a set up.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:02:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about the show about living in the woods? Is that rigged?
[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 17:36:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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NeonNebula ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:54:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll say it for you...Mountain Men. I love that show.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:37:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn. That's disappointing.
fleetber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If no woods porn is found, it's rigged.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah... You absolutely hit the nail on the head here.
Saudi-Prince ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The "woods" are plastic xmas trees from walmart.
DislocatedRibs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:18:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heard that about House Hunters!
thedoctoralwayslies ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:06:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I watched a few episodes of Tiny House Hunters the other day for the first time since learning it's staged, and realized the house they pick already has their furniture in it. I thought it was super weird how they commented on the some of the furniture as if it came with the house! I wonder if it's less obvious with the bigger properties.
It's still fun trying to guess which house is theirs because now you have all these context clues.
vadasultenfusser ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:54:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've found it's usually the opposite, and the house they pick is the "barest" as it's obviously been vacated because they are about to move in!
Travis_83 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:26:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you want to know which house they will 'buy', look for the one with no furniture.
My sister bought a house, then a few days before closing was asked to be on one of the shows. She declined, but if they would have went through with filming, her house would have been empty, as it would have been filmed a day or so after closing. The other random houses would likely be filled with furniture.
OmarLittlest_Petshop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When you say they "used sound editing", you mean they rearranged her words to make her say something she didn't actually say?
bigheyzeus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dy-lan! I spit hot fire!
extracanadian ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"This cake is delicious"
No that wont work. hmmm edit that.
"This cake" add awkward shot of P diddys mother saying nothing and staring, quick cut to nervous contestant face, quick cut to P Diddy looking angry, quick cut back to mother, commercial break, show 15 second coming up later in the show reel, commercial, back with 15 second "recap" of what just happened. Now show the tense moment "This cake..........is delicious" Quick cuts to happy contestant, happy P Diddy, Happy mother, disappointed other contestants. commercial break with 15 second coming up, promo for new Cake boss episodes, commercials, back with recap of relieved contestants and happy p diddy. End show.
Boomshakalaka89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't she live in Georgia?
treehouseninja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you happen to work on one of the home buying shows where a couple purchased an apartment on the 42nd floor of the ritz in Philadelphia a couple years ago?
maradonavselvis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:21:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh damn I just made that same comment about the House hunter show right before I read yours
twinkiedoodles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow.
scannalach ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DID YOU JUST RUIN PROPERTY BROTHERS FOR ME
Weep2D2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:01:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
- How much f0 the home ?
- about tree diddy
holdmypenisforme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:24:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read that as "asshat editor"
OccasionallyWright ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:38:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Friends of mine sold their house and the new owners were on House Hunters. The film shot after they purchased it, so they filmed them walking through it critiquing it as if they were seeing it for the first time.
Most of the things they picked out as flaws were changes that the new owners had actually made after buying it- light fixtures and wall colors.
Lost_in_costco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:51:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My sisters friend was one of those house hunter like shows. They came up to them after they bought a house already. Had a script to look at other houses, usually they just find one and ask the owners if they can pretend to be looking to buy it. It's all fake.
monumentclub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The process of taking out-of-context sound bites and editing them together to make it seem as if someone said something they didn't is called "Frankenbiting" in the business, i.e. You edit together a bunch of different bites to make a Frankenbite. It's very common practice, particularly in shows that bank on interpersonal drama.
Gentlescholar_AMA ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:44:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha mrs diddy? Lol so rap names are inherited in reverse haha. She was mrs combs until her son became p diddy. Thrn she inherited her sons name
Knight12ify ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:13:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck Puff Daddy, anything even remotely involved with that bitch should crash and burn.
ogcoliebear ยท 3104 points ยท Posted at 16:58:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have worked on several reality shows. Some are more fake than others, but they are all heavily scheduled and formatted, never spontaneous.
I worked on a certain MTV dating show where one of the contestants tried to escape the house in the middle of the night, and one of the Production Assistants had to tackle him in the front yard and drag him back into the house. It's like prison, they are completely cut out from the outside world (no computer, books, phones, watches) and they are fed mostly booze. They all go insane.
Also, if the show doesn't air, they don't win their prize money. This is a standard for all competition reality shows.
[deleted] ยท 824 points ยท Posted at 19:57:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was this the Tila Tequila show? Because I recall they had something like this actually make the final cut of the show.
Liar_tuck ยท 562 points ยท Posted at 00:19:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Any sane person stuck in a house with Tila Tequila would try to run.
SpermWhale ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 04:49:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would try to run, but my dick won't let me.
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 07:45:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno, she fucks and is Asian. I'd chill.
Silvystreak ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:02:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She looks like an alien
ShowStoppa718 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:55:48 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
10/10 would still Fuck.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:54:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or use the provided booze to start the house on fire and escape in the confusion.
BryanAdams69 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:07:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Especially once she explained her views about the Jews.
PowerSystemsGuy ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 04:03:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm guessing she doesn't have the same views I do of: "This is a group that has historically tried very hard to fit in to every community and be very productive hard working members of it."
Ferare ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 09:14:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She is more of a 'dress up like the SS and pose in front of a backdrop of Auswich (spelling). She suffered brain damage, and since then she is a full on nazi supporter thinking the illuminati tried to kill her at every step.
buttononmyback ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:39:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wat..
Ferare ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:58:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/tila-tequila-wears-nazi-uniform-praises-hitler-shocking-rant-article-1.1543467
BryanAdams69 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:19:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You'd be right.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/tila-tequila-wears-nazi-uniform-praises-hitler-shocking-rant-article-1.1543467
PowerSystemsGuy ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 13:02:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So I guess it would be pointless to point out to her that as someone who is bisexual, she would have been gassed herself?
Alpha100f ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:29 on September 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In what country?
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 09:13:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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BryanAdams69 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:45:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hope there is a good reason you are falsely calling me an anti-semite.
Feeltheblood ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 05:45:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Come on man! The goose-stepping competition would be a gas!
[deleted] ยท 270 points ยท Posted at 23:49:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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BullDolphin ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 00:52:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i bet their dog and golfish were hot.
sendenten ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 05:31:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Halfway through this comment I checked the username expecting it to be something like "Rambles_about_hot_people"
Sendmeloveletters ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:00:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's hot.
whoAreYouToJudgeME ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:59:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Got any pics?
[deleted] ยท 141 points ยท Posted at 00:04:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Siked ยท 117 points ยท Posted at 00:10:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're my favorite kind of person
Typicaldrugdealer ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:29:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey its me, the family you were talking about. You can show them, just nothing explicit
thehollowman84 ยท 82 points ยท Posted at 00:05:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
THEN DON'T SHARE THE STORY, GOD.
tang81 ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 00:15:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't worry. OP thinks Sarah Jessica Parker is insanely hot. So I think we are better without pictures.
TNinLosAngeles ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:29:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So OP is attracted to horses? Got it.
turtlemaster66 ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 01:02:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd love to see what you look like. Probably worse than a horse, let's admit.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:07:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought this thread established that horses were attractive
how_is_u_this_dum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You don't think horses are beautiful creatures?
myweaknessisstrong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
introducing the horse face killlaaaahhhh
goldenboy2191 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:16:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit, a fucking ODB line in a horse thread? I'll fucking, I'll fucking give you an upvote.
FILE_ID_DIZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look, at least give us a couple courtroom sketches.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:32:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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FILE_ID_DIZ ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:57:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, you can really tell they're related!
sweeper137 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:25:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have yourself an upvote good sir.
rox0r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:39:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
blur the faces
StaticMeshMover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ya that would be creepy if you shared them no matter what....
Mikefromalb ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We won't tell.
oodsigma8 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:31:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
PM ME PLEASE
vaginasinparis ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 21:38:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Feel like it's either this or Are You The One?
penguinsreddittoo ยท 64 points ยท Posted at 23:29:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or that one about the Exes where you have to spend a night with your ex while your current boy/girlfriend watched you.
eat_me_now ยท 90 points ยท Posted at 23:42:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That one was so fucked up. That had those bracelets with the light up lamps in the current SO's room that would light up when they were touching.
Apollo_Screed ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 00:01:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What the fuck? This sounds like it came from a dystopian nightmare. When did this air?
penguinsreddittoo ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 00:23:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Around 2009, maybe, probably before. NeXt was on too at that time.
MyDamnCoffee ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:06:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds so terrible....why would someone agree to do something like that? It's a panic attack waiting to happen.
the-mortyest-morty ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:36:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure it was X (eX?) -Factor or something like that. I loved it haha. Had a weird theme song with this kind of ethereal female voice, I can still hear it in my head. Lyrics were something about "Do you see, what I see? [something something] that ignorance is bliss."
At least I think that's the show.
Edit: Ex Effect maybe?
buttononmyback ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:42:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I loved that song, ha.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:07:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was called The X Effect and it was around on '07 on MTV. Super hilarious because of the piss poor acting
buttononmyback ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There was only like two seasons I think. It didn't last long at all. Probably because it was fake.
littlebetenoire ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 23:46:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy fuck I forgot this show existed.
chdeks ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:47:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was a thing?? What is this show that you speak of?
eat_me_now ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 00:11:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just looked it up... The Ex Effect
TheRadishBros ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:15:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was called The X Effect.
eat_me_now ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:52:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I honstly can't remember... may have been " the ex factor" or my memory could be completely making that up.
stationhollow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Got nothing on the reality dating show where the chick was secretly a dude and they found out at the finale.
buttononmyback ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:41:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that's the one I figured had to be fake. There's no way in hell people would let their boyfriend/girlfriend spend the night with their ex while they just casually watched in the next house over.
Cthulia ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:53:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
they had to watch you with your ex's current bf/gf as well! it was such a train wreck, I LOVED IT
penguinsreddittoo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:25:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
MTv realities were so fucked up then.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:03:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
mojoslowmo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:35:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you are part of the problem (jk)
HiHoJufro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was it just The Four-Way Show?
DerpSherpa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:51:18 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There was a show called Temptation Island that actually broke up marriages when they would put a couple with others and at the end choose if they want to stay with the new person or the spouse. Horrible.
Crooks132 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:15:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was gonna guess are you the one or the real world/the challenge
ogcoliebear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Correct!!
I_Do_Not_Abbreviate ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 22:15:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
or Real World/Road Rules
TheWhiteBlur ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:26:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Real World/Road Rules aren't dating shows.
AboynamedDOOMTRAIN ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:33:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you not remember how much fucking went on in those shows?
TheWhiteBlur ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:38:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah there's a lot but my point was they're not straight up dating shows like Are You The One or Next.
BBQ_HaX0r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They should bring back Road Rules.
joekuli ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:59:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like Are You The One and it's alcohol drinking every 5 minutes.
fuckoffkalvin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:47:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure it was Chi Chi from Daisy of Love.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DoL was VH1.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:44:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think that was on VH1.
ogcoliebear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, it wasn't. They didn't air it. It is a MTV dating show that is recent and still airing.. A show where a bunch of people live in a house looking for there match ;)
TheTigerMaster ยท 380 points ยท Posted at 23:31:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How is that remotely legal? Regardless of what contracts they singed, there are certain things you can't sign away your rights to (for example, you cant sign a legal contract for your own murder). The moment that contestant expressed desire to be let out of building, they revoked whatever kidnapping "consent" they gave before, and they must be released. Any lawyers here? I'm genuinely curious about the legality of this.
[deleted] ยท 111 points ยท Posted at 23:44:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I came here to ask this too. This does not sound legal.
Sloppy_Twat ยท 92 points ยท Posted at 00:35:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does it sound made up?
Zemogray ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 02:34:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I assumed. That seems rather far fetched. Plus if the guys were held against their will, they could have easily reported it to the authorities.
Cloak_and_Dagger42 ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 02:40:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People don't know what their rights are half the time. Did you know that EULAs have been deemed not legally binding because no one reads them and they change constantly?
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:45:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good. One less thing to worry about.
sethboy66 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 03:02:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A hell of a lot of people don't realize that the defense of having not read a contract is actually a very real defense.
Sloppy_Twat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:07:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't read 99% of the contracts that I have signed in my life
crochet_du_gauche ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:07:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Deemed by whom? Citation massively needed.
Cloak_and_Dagger42 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:16:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://arstechnica.com/business/2008/09/washington-court-deals-a-blow-to-unconscionable-eulas/
While they aren't explicitly illegal, one-sided EULAs are rarely upheld in court.
Nerdburton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:25:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, could really use a citation. Mostly because I really want to stop reading those stupid things.
TwiZtah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:54:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know that they mean shit in EU, it was a fairly hot topic a few years back if I remember here in the EU countries.
sweet_roses ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:53:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
basically. I just imagined he dragged him back and sort of convinced him he had to stay, and then he probably agreed. once he agreed, that's that.
life's a motherfucker.
KrazyKukumber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The dragging back part is still highly illegal (it's kidnapping, among other things).
Berberberber ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 11:19:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reality TV is so fake even the stories about how fake it is are fake.
the_number_2 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:23:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not made up, just cleverly edited.
CheekyJester ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 08:21:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:42:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm going to go ahead and guess they screen their contestants for the slightest sign they know any law or their rights.
CharlieHume ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:35:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Call a cop. Oh wait we took ya phones. Get back in the house before I go kill your dog.
tigerking615 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:41:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't, but for one, they probably wouldn't have gotten paid if they got away. Maybe they changed their mind when they realized that?
isaac9092 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:02:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It might be in the contract.
thehollowman84 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 00:07:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hope this isn't the reddit thread where you find out that corporations are mostly okay with breaking the law.
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 01:57:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol this isn't some white collar tax evasion thing. It's literally blatant imprisonment.
TheTigerMaster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
If people had to sign their contracts, I suspect a low fewer bullshit contracts would be signed.
Edit: umm... Replied to the wrong comment. Oops
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:09:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are plenty of laws that voids BS contracts tho. I'm 99.99% sure that you cannot sign a contract that allows other civilians to imprison you the same way you can't sign a contract to become a slave or whatnot.
TLema ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:32:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But maybe the type of people on an MTV reality show aren't the type of people to know that.
TwiZtah ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:55:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ignorance of laws is not a valid argument nor does it hold up in court.
TheTigerMaster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:19:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh no, definitely not. And I wouldn't be surprised either since all kinds of bullshit happens in the entertainment industry.
bplboston17 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:48:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
damn he sung his contracts what a boss
TheTigerMaster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:07:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
If people had to sing their contracts, I suspect a lot fewer bullshit contracts would be signed.
PeregrineFury ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:19:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How did you misspell "lot" both times you made this comment?
TheTigerMaster ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:49:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a mess today.
JustOnStandBi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:14:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aren't we all, buddy.
PeregrineFury ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:57:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's okay, it happens to the best of us.
duffpan ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 02:43:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not a lawyer, but a law student here. The tort of false imprisonment is the closest legal standard this would touch. However, depending on what the contracts say (I have never participated in these shows so cannot speak to what the language in the contracts say), you can actually sign away your right to fight false imprisonment, basically by consenting to being held in the house at the discretion of the director or show staff.
Edit: by right to false imprisonment, I mean you sign away your rights to say you were falsely imprisoned
franker ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:51:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
so it's kind of like how a football player consents to battery when he's playing on the field?
omnicidial ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:47:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you were incarcerated you'd be violating the constitution in signing away your rights, because you can't actually give away rights granted by amendment, ala the 13th in this case.
The contract where you did it and the signing away of the rights in of itself was never legal and that contract is worth as much as toilet paper fished out of the sewer.
You might have made it impossible to sue in civil, but they're still guilty of kidnapping and slavery.
CyanideNow ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 03:16:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can give away basically any of your constitutional rights at will.
For example, non-disclosure agreements are legally enforceable, despite the first amendment. You can choose to incriminate yourself to the police or prosecuting authority despite the Fifth amendment. You can choose not to be represented by an attorney despite the sixth amendment. Hell, you can even decide to quarter troops in your home!
loogie97 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:35:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Civil vs criminal. The aggrieved party can sue you in civil court for damages or whatever you promised in the NDA.
Tackling someone against their will is assault and battery.
Hauling them back into a locked house in kidnapping.
You can run away and be forced to file for bankruptcy but they can't make you stay against your will.
That is also why I call BS. I don't think that any sane person with money to lose would do that to someone without money and everything to gain.
Could it have happened? Maybe just unlikely.
GoForFive ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except all of those require you to be actively participating and you're still in control (other than the NDA), which is much different than someone imprisoning you after you no longer agree.
omnicidial ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:20:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But your decision won't make you immune from criminal charges by the state in any way.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:46:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm assuming it was in their contract? But even so, a waiver wouldn't cover detainment
Miguelinileugim ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:24:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Please explain /u/ogcoliebear
ogcoliebear ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:05:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So in their contract, they sign that they are agreeing to stay at the house for X weeks, and if they leave, they could possibly be sued for breach of contract.
Miguelinileugim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/u/TheTigerMaster Got it, still if they want to leave of course they would have to let them /u/ogcoliebear
Kevin0wens ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its those small fine print in contracts
thotnumber1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:04:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, sounds like false imprisonment to me.
GangreneMeltedPeins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:40:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
IANAL but im sure you can sue
Qvar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:18:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Non-US lawyer here. It's not exactly written down anywhere, but common sense (which afaik you aren't exactly swimmin in over there) dictates that it would go down aproximately like this:
Participant tries to escape.
Production tackles him.
Production explains that if he actually escapes the contract will be void and they won't pay him anything.
If he stills want to go, they cannot touch him and he's free to go right away. Otherwise it's effectively kidnapping. If he doesn't want to go the relationship resumes.
In case they choose not to tackle him, the contract would be directly voided.
mustnotthrowaway ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:06:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not legal. This is probably a lie or at best an exaggeration of what happened.
brenton07 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:38:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not a lawyer but also worked in tv. These contracts are ironclad, you're literally signing away all of your rights for a specified period depending on the show format.
That being said, I don't think a PA should have tackled talent. But it's not uncommon to have some sort of security that guards the rooms to make sure no one is leaving.
Painkiller90 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:04:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
AM I BEING DETAINED?!
Steam-Crow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:00:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The instant replay showed it was a clean tackle.
PinkStarr55 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Im assuming they sign some kind of sketchy legal waiver/contract
NuteIla ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:17:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That reminds me of that YouTube series "sex house"
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:22:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I now feel like that's less far from reality then I thought
NuteIla ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:59:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah just short of drugging them up
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:51:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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sarcasmcannon ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:34:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
False imprisonment.
alue-42 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:28:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
so https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unreal_(TV_series) is really reality?
PM-ME-YOUR-STEAMKEYS ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:44:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of the creators of Unreal, was a producer on Bachelor for a few years so it's interesting wondering what's real and what's made up for UnREAL.
NothappyJane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love the bachelor so much, its just great TV, the people trying to be villains to get more airtime, the ones desperate to be picked because they are hot and people don't turn them down, the ones trying use it as a launch pad, the rididculous egos. Every time a bachelorette says "he said up this date for me" like there wasn't 30 production assistants that made the spectacular date. Unreal is extreme but they pick people based on how fucked up they are and go from there
ogcoliebear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:10:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, that is far from reality. That is like the soap opera version of what actually happens
djwat ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:54:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is like that show 'unreal'.
chrisssypoo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:50:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love that show
AKA_Squanchy ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:13:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same on 5th Grader. My ep was canceled so I didn't win $100k, but then it was rescheduled a few months later so I did win! Heavily edited content though. They cut a lot out.
somarain ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:45:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does this include Survivor?
psstwannabuyacarm8 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:56:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I for one am okay with being force feed booze. But I am a dam drunk so there is that.
lavendermini ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:57:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it Are You The One? I love that show
tastelesscharm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes! In his AMA, he says that he worked on seasons 3 and 4 of that show
nbapat43 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:08:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was the show called living the 70s?
Counterkulture ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like more than just the contestants don't get paid if the show doesn't air.
CiB0rg_Genos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This reminds me of UNreal, god I love that show.
whisperHailHydra ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ever see that episode of Mission Hill where the older brother get on the Real World then has to be rescued from the show by his neighbors?
vlasvilneous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hhmm, how much is a production? Is it more or less than our prison system?
butteredupfatman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't this false arrest or illegal detainment?
BendADickCumOnBack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So how does a book connect them to the outside world?
ogcoliebear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:06:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is a distraction. they want them living in the moment and interacting with the other contestants. Fighting, fuckin, etc
_PM_ME_YOUR_ELBOWS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Booze you say
bplboston17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
was it ARE YOU THE ONE? rofl that show looks so dumb but for some reason i cant stop watching.
fastandtitties ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This sounds a lot like Are the One? On mtv
ogcoliebear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:06:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mhm
Pinkindabrain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not even books?? I can understand computer and tv, but books!
Fabianzzz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So... is it legal?
CRASHtheDOG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I worked on the MTV show "Next" for a little while. Everything you see is completely fake and scripted. I was working as a production assistant on the show when one of the contestants didn't show up. Since I was the new guy (I'd only worked 3 or 4 days for them at this point) they asked me to take his place. I didn't want to do it at all but after some cajoling and the promise of more work with MTV I agreed. They made me look like a complete idiot on national television, put "facts" up about me that weren't true, and to boot they never even fucking hired me again. so, fuck MTV. I can't say that strongly enough, FUCK MTV!
ogcoliebear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah! Next was one of the fakest shows! Made everyone look like an ahole :/
HashtagNotJewish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No BOOKS?!
akaryley551 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like that one show the onion made.
angstyart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:15:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is disgusting. Why is this fucking okay?? This is torture, and we pretend we care so much about justice and people's feelings?? Bullshit.
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 20:06:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Soldier1317 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:10:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Call the cops for what?
keknom ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 22:40:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
False imprisonment, even if you agreed to be on the show, they can't hold you against your will if you want to leave.
ogcoliebear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:07:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, but they will sue you for breaching contract
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Pence128 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The state didn't sign shit.
[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 22:41:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holding someone against their will?
[deleted] ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 22:49:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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GargleProtection ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 22:56:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No way. It's not possible to sign away your rights or allow someone to do something illegal to you. It's still illegal no matter what you sign. That said, it would be really hard to prove when looking at the situation at hand and they would drag you through years of legality.
Even if they let you go you would be breaking a contract with them and that would carry its own consequences.
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 23:10:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, there are certain things you can't wave your rights to. For example, you can't consent to murder, slavery, etc.
Jowitness ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:49:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't matter, they can't hold you against your will.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:39:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uh no. Definetly not.
MushroomToast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:28:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For ratings obviously.
[deleted] ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 23:09:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, this one actually cracks me up. Anyone willing to go on an MTV reality show deserves to be tortured.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:52:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus, that sounds awful. That screams red flag to me. Pretty much forcing an addictive substance on you, creating social oddities and boundaries that aren't normal on you, detaining you.. that's simply a social experiment that is making people insane. Hello alcohol and eventual drug abuse, severe anxiety and paranoia (are there cameras here now?) And anything that has to go with it, Stockholm's syndrome maybe? I always thought it would be cool to go on one and party it up and live with some fun people, but I didn't realize the extent of the personal invasion and the lack of sympathy.
chumjumper ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:06:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was it Sex House?
GLOOTS_OF_PEACE ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:13:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
fuuuark yeh boii!! Sign me up!!
LinuxSuperUser8 ยท 7511 points ยท Posted at 15:22:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend who signed up to audition for a show that she thought was "The Bachelorette", or something similar. I guess its standard practice to not give the actual name of the show, and just say, "We need good looking, energetic young women for blah blah blah."
So she got called back, went through a few different interviews and a screen test. Finally, they tell her that the concept is that she will be running a Pawn Shop with another woman. She is a dental assistant with no experience remotely related to the Pawn business.
"Pawn Queens" ended up being on for two seasons and they gave her a backstory about how/why she got interested in the pawn business. Not exactly SHOCKING, but it was pretty interesting to see that they basically looked for hot girls first, then put them into a proven concept ("Pawn Stars"-type reality show).
[deleted] ยท 4168 points ยท Posted at 16:31:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit, I just went to the Wikipedia page for the show and saw this:
LinuxSuperUser8 ยท 2229 points ยท Posted at 16:41:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, I'd never read that. I think a lot of Pawn businesses are actually family owned and it's not really UNUSUAL to see the wife or grandma chain smoking and giving customers dirty looks from behind the counter.
mndtrp ยท 453 points ยท Posted at 16:56:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The two shops I wander into occasionally are both generally manned by women. Unsure weather they are the owners, related to the owners, or are just staff, though.
zach2992 ยท 1162 points ยท Posted at 17:07:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Womanned by women?
Outmodeduser ยท 1019 points ยท Posted at 18:09:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Personmanned by people of unassumed gender identities.
... Shitlord.
Espurr_therapist ยท 68 points ยท Posted at 20:48:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shitperson. Lord implies masculinity
Montague-Withnail ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 21:31:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shitbeing. Person implies species.
n0remack ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 21:55:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shitbag. Being implies humanoid/animal hybrid
Arborgarbage ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 22:20:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit. Bag implies bag
nootrino ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:25:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Atomic composition. Bag implies storage vessel only.
coleisawesome3 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:26:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Appliers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:07:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
, Period implies femininity.
cjpelican ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:13:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Marklar
SurprisedPotato ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:41:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They've recently renamed my favorite fruit. Now it's called the 'persongo'
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:28:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
WHAT IS BAG MAY NEVER BAG!
Hiei2k7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:45:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Will that be Shitplastic, Shitpaper or Shitcanvas?
epraider ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:39:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit implies organic. I prefer Apache Attack Helicopter.
zzyzx00 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:06:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
S. "hit" is triggering.
Cingetorix ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:40:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haven't you heard? Only men are capable of being shitpeople.
abstractwhiz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:04:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shitaristocrat. Need to preserve the feudal connotations here.
throwitaway488 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And why not perdaughtered?
Southruss000 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:05:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Women only pay me 78% of what a man would pay me for me useless crap.
zobbyblob ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:54:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"staffed by..."
vikingnasa ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:35:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Any reddit thread turns into this garbage after a few posts
wolfman1911 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:06:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The stupid joke chains is most of the reason that I come to Reddit at all.
system0101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be a shitjarl :P
RemyJe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And not a single TMBG reference. So sad.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:30:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Personnel of unassumed gender identities, Personman your battlestations!"
Yep, that works.
splitcroof92 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
shitm'lord
evilsalmon ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:20:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Personed?
Yardsale420 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:29:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TRIGGERED!
McJagger88 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:02:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't care, just wash your hands
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:25:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just died.
jurksoffenhye ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:17:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You still said "-manned."
OneGoodRib ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 20:55:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You gotta take it further - perdaughterwomynned rather than personmanned. I've seen a lot of shit but hopefully there's no one out there who will take this comment seriously and/or uses "perdaughterwomynned" as a real word.
ZPudd ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 21:54:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Give it time.
Warphead ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shitperson, you mean.
MajorTrouble ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Personed?
underwriter ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 22:46:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
stop mansplaining
oncie ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 21:26:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TRIGGERED!!
Fraerie ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:13:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to live next door to a linguistics professor and this was one of their personal bugbears - I heard many lectures on the topic.
The language root for the use of the word manned in this context most likely comes from managed, which in turn comes from manipulate or to hold. It's the same as 'chairman' has nothing to do with gender, but the person that holds the chair (position of authority).
Churba ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, in the case of "Manned", it's going back to the same root as using "Man" to just mean "A human", as in, there's a person in it. Which is an odd one, since it went from neutral, to gendered, and back again(in some contexts, though debatably) over time.
Though it's weird that this professor wasn't up to date with the current(well, for the last decade or more, but it's not changed, so still current) thinking on the topic, which is that while this is true, that linguistic convention may still be considered sexist, as it also continues the historic idea that men are the standard for being a person. But, maybe they just disagreed, it's not important.
Honestly, I'd just dodge the issue and use "staffed", given the choice.
Fraerie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:44:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Full disclosure - the conversation was over 20 years ago. But it happened pretty much every time the body corporate[1] minutes came out and it had "Chairperson" in it.
[1] They lived across the landing from us and were an owner occupier, as was my flatmate.
Churba ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:08:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Ah, I thought it was rather more recent than that - after all, the userbase around here does tend to skew younger than we are. If it was twenty years ago, that's far more understandable. Apologies, sorry about that.
psinguine ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:29:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
THIS DOES NOT FEMPUTE.
bishopolis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
verbs and nouns can use the same letters but have different meanings. It's English, if you want to learn more.
majorfoodie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:34:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, some like their Woman "Manning" them.
whatwhatinthebuttbutt
IncorrectEtymologies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:16:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"manned" in this sense comes from the Latin manibus, which means "hand", and relates to a person being available to control things directly
DeathNinja93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:35:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, man on woman action.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Woman...Whoa, man.
Zephinol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Triggered.
GetItReich ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:50:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/igetjokes
last_alchemyst ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:22:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you need a megaphone for that comment?
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/en.futurama/images/4/4f/Frida_Waterfall.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20080112170214
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:55:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Attended by women.
redfeather1 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:59:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
HEY, keep your CIS opinions and ideas to yourself. If they want to be manned by women, or womanned by men or what ever they can. If they want to be puppy dogged by aardvarks, it is THEIR CHOICE!
brahmasansparsham ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Humaned by Earthdweller.
zodiac-griller ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
womanned by men?
-nautical- ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hu-manned by women
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Activated! What's your tumblr???
mAkAttAk432 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:13:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Mailman"
Femaleman
allylul ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
triggered.
ellocojorge ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:49:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Triggered
polarbear128 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 21:41:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Women and Women First.
queefiest ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 22:36:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks friend! I almost missed that opportunity to be triggered by this patriarchal society and it's fascist colloquialisms!
xBeastInCarnate ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 22:50:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
triggered
Cpt_Tsundere_Sharks ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 00:04:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
triggered.
Zandrick ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 00:11:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No.
mortiphago ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:31:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
kinda rainish?
mndtrp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a cloudy moment, should one misspelled word open me up to a flood of comments about it? Hail no! All y'all are raining on my parade and ruining my sunny disposition. I'm sorry I mist it earlier.
neggasauce ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's Freedom Day, we have the right to rain on your parade all we want.
pravicordius ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:27:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aye, dark clouds be on the horizon.
Jackpot777 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:19:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's Britain for you.
Trazac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The only pawn shop I've ever been in was staffed completely by women.
Baardhooft ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unsure weather owns us all.
VioletBroregarde ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:44:40 on September 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The one I go to is womanned by men.
JumpForWaffles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:25:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whether. I'm not sorry. Nice anecdote though.
Aksen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
pretty interesting, i have only been in a few and it was just men there. In my head when I picture a pawn shop owner, I picture a man... never really thought about it until now.
panamaspace ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:00:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Women. I get you.
mndtrp ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:06:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, shit. I knew something was off when I was typing that out, but didn't bother spending the few seconds to figure it out.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:46:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
triggered
neggasauce ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
mndtrp ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, you're 21 minutes later than /u/mortiphago, and an hour later than /u/panamaspace.
mortiphago ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unsure timing?
neggasauce ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:56:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So? Reddit's all about them reposts son.
Pessimistic_Idiot ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:33:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whether. Sorry.
trump4prezy ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whether
ferjero989 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 21:50:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Manned by women Triggered
xplasticastle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:33:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I work at a large chain pawn shop and half of the staff (including myself) are women.
EpicCODPlayer10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:02:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Please do an AMA!
xplasticastle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:20:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, it isn't as interesting as you would think.
hanny_9595 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:37:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I agree with the family owned part, my dad owned a pawn shop and my hometown had about 6 pawn shops in it. Dad was friends with almost all the other pawn shop owners and their families. Most times the husband runs the shop and the wife does some back-end stuff. One lady had a clothing store next to get her husband's pawn shop and also moonlighted as a stripper. I knew a few women who worked in pawn shops as jewellers.
atonementfish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a pawn shop I like because it's huge and they always have neat stuff to look at. And the manager is a woman, and the rest if the workers are little Asian guys. She's tough as nails too and nearly the same height as me (5'11). She can run that place pretty damn fine, can't even haggle with her, so adamant.
that-old-broad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think I've missed my calling!
penguinsreddittoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For some weird reasons I feel like I had already read that comment.
MushroomToast ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, there's already plenty of hot ladies working in pawnshops.
hungry4pie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then pointing to a sign saying "No Blacks, Arabs or Jews allowed"
thegapinglotus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:15:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to frequent the pawn shops in Florida looking for deals, and almost all of them were family run, and generally there was a matriarchal figure calling the shots.
BullDolphin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
remember: the most successful pirate in the world was a (chinese) woman. piracy and pawnery aren't really that far apart, in terms of vocational choices.
I_was_serious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's actually my dream job. I'm working on perfecting my dirty looks.
luke_in_the_sky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also Chinese moms.
burgergradient ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:45:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is so accurate in my town that I "laughed out loud".
fishbiscuit13 ยท 336 points ยท Posted at 17:42:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That last part is actually recent vandalism. If you check the history it's the third most recent edit, and the two more recent were by the same non-registered user, also similarly flaming the show, including "For any who have watched it, it's painfully staged and boring"
samtrano ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:59:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your next task is to find the zodiac killer
a_____________a ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:41:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
didn't we agree that the killer is ted cruz?
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:35:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks Sherlock.
MugaSofer ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:56:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It may not be worded correctly or sourced, but it is true and should be included in the article. All you'd need is a media article mentioning that it's common for women to work in pawn shops.
fishbiscuit13 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:56:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thus it has no place on Wikipedia.
MugaSofer ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:01:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, but it should be cleaned up rather than necessarily removed.
fishbiscuit13 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:06:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still, it's from a user that only submits vandalism/insulting edits. Unless it has a good reason to be there, it's better to just remove it until there's better sources.
Mksiege ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:25 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It has two sources, so it belongs.
postuk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:48:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[Citation needed]
TheSilence13 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:59:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its true tho
fishbiscuit13 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:54:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Still, it's badly subjective (and detracts from the article). That IP only seems to do vandalism edits like this.
TheSilence13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:57:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not saying it should be there lol
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:53:32 on July 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah, I knew it was vandalism, I just thought it was funny
boomfit ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't mind edits like that, so long as they let my friends and I call Joe Buck a "bad American sportscaster" on his page.
SchurkjeBoefje ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:26:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How is a stereotype like that even remotely believable to a functioning human being? As if none of us know at least one woman who drives a hard bargain. Geddafuggaouttahere. Reality tv has moved from sort of cleverly scripted nonsense to just throwing ideas made out of smegma at the screen.
SkrublordPrime ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:31:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
crybannanna ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Had to look it up.... It doesn't say that "which they completely made up" part.
I was hoping the wiki would be about how fake it was, but it appears that it is written up as though it were not entirely staged.
Taygr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Accidentally looked up pawn girls, holy shit that is a lot of porn
How_Suspicious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's amazing how much of "our" culture is manufactured by the media.
Belgand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The only stereotype is that people running pawn shops are sketchy as hell.
Sgt_peppers ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:58:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LMAO
AMAStevenglansberg ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 22:19:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Trigerred
[deleted] ยท 176 points ยท Posted at 16:06:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
[deleted]
StylezClash304 ยท 382 points ยท Posted at 16:31:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably like how that one is called "Hardcore Pawn"
[deleted] ยท 626 points ยท Posted at 18:06:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
underwriter ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 22:49:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
followed by Pawn Stars - Big Black Hock
Froggy_hop ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:11:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ebony and Ivory Pawn
jr111192 ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 21:20:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or the spin-off where they open a shop in Japan: "Japanese Tentacle Pawn!"
BlooFlea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then up next is PAWN FETISH
gdub695 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:18:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go on. ( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)
MrMento ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:38:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You made me snort.
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 19:12:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted]
TheFakerSlimShady ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:00:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get off the mic nerd
CyberneticPanda ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pawnkakke.
0borowatabinost ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:13:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a parody video starring Bryan Cranston and Aaron Paul called "Barely Legal Pawn".
Magookas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:03:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Link?
xxReptilexx5724 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:11:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went there once, they only show the nice corner of the store like where the jewelry is. The rest of the store that they don't film is really dirty and filled with broken TV's and computers from the 90's
I did get to meet les tho and he was extremely nice.
StylezClash304 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:12:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would kind of expect all of the above. Les seems like the nicest guy in the world and also it is in Detroit.
xxReptilexx5724 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:20:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah my mother asked about his two kids that are on the show but he said they only show up if they are filming something
StylezClash304 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:21:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They seem like just terrible people. Not Les though.
Froggy_hop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:13:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Softcore Pawn: The owner has to deduce the value of the product being sold by looking at its shadow behind flowing transparent fabric.
tylahnol ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:22:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget the quiz show Pawnography
FuriouslyWastingTime ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:00:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget the original, "Pawn Stars".
Communist_Ninja ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:25:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"So the Expert said it's worth between $1000-$2500 man, I can give you like $200."
"But sir, The man sai.."
"Listen, I have to hold onto this item and sell it and stuff so $200 cash money...."
usrevenge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it's funny that this is the meme when normally you get at LEAST half of the retail price.
brodhi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:40:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The meme started when PatTheNESPunk went on the show to sell his rare NES games and they used the "it'll sit on the shelfs so long...." line on him. Chumlee also did the negotiation, probably the least qualified person to barter for rare video games.
samtwheels ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:33:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The comment above his mentioned it, no one forgot.
LargeTeethHere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate this title so much
JediGuyB ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:07:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How about the Pawn Stars game show spin-off, Pawnography?
Jimpieish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:52:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget the game show pawnography
smartcookiecrumbles ยท 88 points ยท Posted at 17:20:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Phonetically, it sounds closer to 'Prom Queens'.
storkstalkstock ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 19:43:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well "porn" and "pawn" are straight up homophones in certain dialects. An Australian, for example, only distinguishes them in writing, not speech.
willyouswagme ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:02:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Til
EightBitNacho ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:14:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being Australian, the first time my dad told me he was watching this new "pawn stars" show was awkward.
FILE_ID_DIZ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:08:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Pawn star": awkward
"Fuckin' cunt": perfectly fine
I love Straya!
thunderclapMike ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which is why they need a show called pawning porn
_poptart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:54:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In what dialects aren't porn and pawn homophones?! (South-East England person speaker here)
storkstalkstock ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:50:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Dialects that pronounce /r/ at the end of a syllable as a consonant. AKA rhotic accents. They make up the majority of North America, Scotland, Ireland, and and the West Country.
You speak in a non-rhotic accent, meaning that you don't pronounce /r/ as a consonant unless it precedes a vowel, like in "rake", "break", or "flooring" (compare to "start" or "floor"). For you, a written "r" after a vowel is actually a vowel modifier rather than a consonant.
Other pairs that rhotic speakers distinguish that you might not include "caught" vs "court", "coda" vs "coder", "spa" vs "spar", and "Korea" vs "career".
All of that said, other dialects lack distinctions that you make. I'm a western American, so "caught" and "cot" are identical for me, as are "ma" and "maw" and "sari" and "sorry". Where you have three distinct vowel sounds distinguishing those words and dozens of others (short O, broad A, and aw), I only have one.
bushy82 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Despite having no intention of validating your statements, that was a really interesting contribution. I definitely just sat here on the big mouthing those words with different accents.
MyNikesAreBlue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As an American in the Midwest, I certainly can make the distinction.
Heimdahl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:34:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought "pawn" had a long a in it. So with "prom" being short, wouldn't it have almost nothing in common? And certainly much less than "pawn" and "porn".
Am not English so I would appreciate some insight. Would hate to pronounce those things wrong.
smartcookiecrumbles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
'Pawn' and 'prom' both rhyme with 'prawn' and 'pom-pom'. It's an 'ah' sound. Porn rhymes with corn and form.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:34:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Again, depends on where you're from. I'm English and pawn, prawn, porn, corn, form all rhyme.
Prom-prom rhymes with pom-pom and to an extent, condom.
smartcookiecrumbles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:41:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough. Just for my understanding, are you saying that form and farm are pronounced the same to you?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, they're different to me.
thunderclapMike ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:11:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right. Porn is pronounced Pour - n
Pawn is pronouned Pah - n
Corn is Core - n
Prom doesnt rhyme with any if you are pronouncing it correctly. Its one syllable Purr - omm
Finally Prawn is Purr aww -n
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Porn is right, but just make sure it's not two syllables or dragged out It's short.
Pawn is not pronounced like that where I am from. It's pronounced the same as porn. We don't say pahn.
Corn is again short, but yeah, core-n.
There's no such thing as 'pronouncing something correctly' when we're talking about comparing different countries' accents. That makes zero sense. Prom rhymes with 'from' for a start.
Prawn is again, short but no 'u' in the first bit - 'pr-aw-n'. Of course, all of these break up of pronounciations are again affected by how you or I would pronounce 'aw' or such. But I don't know IPA off the top of my head.
thunderclapMike ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:46:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Correct English is accentless. Accents do indeed change things. But that doesnt make them right.
a_birthday_cake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:51:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How can anyone speak accentless?
thunderclapMike ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:19 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When you learn a foreign language you speak it accentless.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:21:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're talking shit.
thunderclapMike ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:52 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're thinking it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:17 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're an imbecile who doesn't understand how accents work.
thunderclapMike ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:12 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're a fool who doesn't understand how language is created and flows.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:06 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hahahaah, you're arguing that I don't know how language develops by trying to maintain that English has one pronounciation? For starters, there's RP, Estuary English, American English, Canadian English.
Here's a nice easy one for you - thorough. How do you pronounce that? There's a least an American and English version of it and they're both right.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
thunderclapMike ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:47 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Neither do you. You just think you do. RP, Estuary English, American English, Canadian English are all dialects of English just like Cantonese and Mandarin are dialects of Chinese. You are welcome to not admit you are clueless. It doesn't change anything.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:53:25 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're accents. Pronunciation in each of them is 100% correct to that accent. And also well done on not coming back about thorough as you clearly know fuck all.
thunderclapMike ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:23:55 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They are not accents. An accent is a subset of a dialect. American English dialect of English (which if you want to be specific originated in England and changed over the centuries) has numerous accents, the southern one (like georgia and Mississippi drawl) and Boston and New York etc. An accent does not dictate how a word sounds. Its an artifact of environment. A word sounds like how is declared to sound across all dialects. This is how languages forms and grows. There isn't 50 ways to pronounce a word. There is one way and ONLY ONE WAY. However pre internet, local affectations and environment caused words to be altered, this was allowed because people in normal life don't really give a f+++ about diction. This is why ain't and Ya'll exist. So once again you can set there about believe whatever you want to believe. It doesn't change anything.
storkstalkstock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most non-Americans make a three-way distinction between "ah" as in "khan", "short O", as in "con", and "aw" as in "lawn". The ones who drop /r/ tend to merge "or" with "aw" so "corn, porn, pawn, lawn" are all perfect rhymes, but "khan" and "pawn" are not.
_poptart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What? Prawn, pawn, porn and corn all rhyme. Prom rhymes with pom-pom and from... They end in 'm' and thus can't rhyme with the others?!
smartcookiecrumbles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting. Perhaps this is where our differences come from. In my understanding, words can rhyme and not end in the same letter if they have the same or very similar vowel sound (speaking simply, since we're currently only discussing monosyllabic words).
For me, from is pronounced 'frum', whereas the pom in in 'pom-pom' is pronounced more like 'pahm'. And the por in 'porn' is pronounced like 'poor', and so is the for in 'form'.
When I say 'pawn' I pronounce it like 'pahn', and 'prom' like 'prahm', so they rhyme each other but do not rhyme with the the 'poor' sound in 'porn'.
I make a different mouth shape for the 'ah' vs the 'or', so to me they do not rhyme. I would be interested to hear your take on this. Language is of interest to me.
thunderclapMike ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
there is no ah. Its n pronounced 'un'
Heimdahl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:23:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Prom is not pronounced with a short O ?! Holy moly. Thanks for explaining it!
LinuxSuperUser8 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:38:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I could tell you that, haha, but I'd be lying. It was supposed to be exactly what you guessed.
dallasmay18 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 16:32:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ยฟPor quรฉ no los dos?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:24:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I never put 2 and 3 together that Pawn Stars was was supposed to be Porn Stars.
I'm a fucking idiot.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I bet that's interesting to talk about in Boston.
Lucky_leprechaun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
O.O Pawn Stars sounds sort of like Porn Stars.....This NEVER occurred to me.
soldmysoultotoyota ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pawn Stars had a game-show-like spinoff called Pawnography.
Belgand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:50:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Castle is also a clever chess joke. It refers to how going from mystery writer to police detective is a lateral career move, but it sets him up for greater future advancement and control.
sexy_salad_dressing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's even better with a British or an Aussie accent, the words are pronounced identically.
DicedPeppers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL
BurnedOut94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like it's neither a chess joke nor a porn pun. I think it's just a kind of catchy title that describes the (staged or not) subject matter of the show.
exit6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:08:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought "prom queens" first
McBurger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:02 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That never dawned on me until now
cutemusclehead ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 15:58:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They don't like ugly women! Why?
[deleted] ยท 201 points ยท Posted at 16:59:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's kind of fucked up that on the male versions of pawn shows the men are absolutely disgusting slobs. But on the 'female version' only hot chicks will do.
tradingnudesformemes ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:48:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well with Pawn Stars the family really does own a pawn shop and just happened to get a show, but since this show was forced and an unoriginal concept they needed something to set them apart and they simply went with the brainless approach of "hey let's add hot chicks lol" since most reality T.V. is aimed at the lowest common denominator.
Fidesphilio ยท 103 points ยท Posted at 18:02:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is because of misogyny.
CreativelyBland ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:10:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, no, it's 2016. We fixed that, remember? Right before we all got our flying cars.
Fidesphilio ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 19:44:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah, like how racism is over now that there's been a black president!
birdwatcher72 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:00:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is the most Reddit comment chain I've ever witnessed. Congratulations
CreativelyBland ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:40:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because we're social conscious and realize that things are not as optimal as they could be for minorities and women? So Reddit.
birdwatcher72 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:50:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, it's because you fail to realize it isn't misogyny because that show is appealing to a target demographic: men. As far as racism goes? Sure, racism is always going to be present from all races to all races. But being a minority doesn't hold you back in any way. (In the western world at least).
CreativelyBland ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:19:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude. Blacks are still hugely fucking targeted by police and the general populace and are hired at ridiculously low rates. I'm not invested in our argument enough to find the stats, but read up on that shit, and you'll see. Don't just assume you know because you yourself aren't racist. Down in Arizona, it's still a huge problem in small towns.
As for women, I understand how the initial comment is a bit off base, though sexism is still a fucking huge issue.
birdwatcher72 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:08:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can find biased stats in favor of anything. And like I said, there are blacks that hate whites, and whites that hate blacks. If black people happen to get arrested more, then maybe they are commiting more crime. I won't even bother looking up the stats for that because we both know the truth. As far as sexism goes, there are advantages and disadvantages to both sexes. It's just life
CreativelyBland ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:56:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, holy shit. You are just a racist. You'd look at any statistic you're ever given and claim blacks are the problem. Hm. Well, I hope you get a bigger world view and learn to analyze things logically.
birdwatcher72 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Lmao. And you're really the one jumping to conclusions. I'm not say blacks are the problem. I'm just saying that would explain why they are arrested more often. You know, because they are commiting more crime? I hope you learn to analyze things logically and stop overthinking things.
Pappy_StrideRite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:54 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ya think the target of scripted reality is men? yer stupidity is gynocentric.
birdwatcher72 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:16 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Um, yeah? Of course there are women that watch it, it's just not the main targeted audience. Do you really think the audience of these pawn shows contains more women than men?
Pappy_StrideRite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:25:59 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
my wifey n all her airhead twat friends watch that storage pawn shop house flipin bullshit all fuckin day n know the character names and their fabricated lil formulated personalities n shit. fuck yes it's all tits in the front row.
adding prettier girls is catering to purse-holders and lesbians.
Fidesphilio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure whether to be flattered or throw up.
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:53:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Samsau12 ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 22:20:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That good old reason is still pretty damn misogynistic
asshair ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 04:32:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or natural. Why force equal values when men and women aren't exactly 100% equal in practicality and in perception of eachother.
[deleted] ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 22:33:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Samsau12 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:09:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which literally does not change the meaning of what I said. That reasoning doesn't justify the misogyny of the male viewership.
q1s2e3 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 21:45:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, so, misogyny.
GiftTag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But Pawn Queens was on TLC which has probably a 90% female audience.
Fidesphilio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:08:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, so let's take a second to puzzle out WHY men are socialized to enjoy ogling anorexic-looking ditsy women. HMMMMMM I WONDERRRRRRRRR......
quentin-coldwater ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:16:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not advertising, that's sex drive.
poochyenarulez ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 18:44:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't it the opposite? Depicting men as fat, lazy, and stupid while showing women and smart and attractive sounds more like men hating than women hating.
Fidesphilio ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 18:51:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, because fat, lazy, stupid women also exist, and there's no way they'd ever get paid millions to be told what to do by tv producers. Unlike fat men, who, demonstrably, can be and are. Basically, it's socially-acceptable for a man to be a gross pig, but a woman being anything less than 'hot' is a social death sentence.
NinjaTroll471 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:22:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honey Boo Boo.
Fidesphilio ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 19:43:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In which the fat women are there to be laughed at.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:04:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently you've never seen Pawn Stars.
Fidesphilio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If anything that just proves my point.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:34:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually it negates it, but enjoy your lone struggle against the patriarchy brave cunt.
Balthilda ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:40:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is ONE example. One vs literally everything else.
NinjaTroll471 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:18:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Heavy, My 600 Pound Life (though it features both genders), My Big Fat Fabulous Life, Big Women: Big Love. I'm not saying it isn't unbalanced, but there are plenty of shows revolving around fat women.
And don't get me wrong, there are plenty of shows that feature fat men, but their fat isn't glorified, nor is it really focused upon.
Even considering shows like Family Guy, and The Simpsons, the dad is always ragged on for being fat/lazy/stupid and it's always a wonder how he has such a wonderful wife. The problem is, flip that. A show featuring a fat woman that is constantly made fun of because of her weight/intelligence. A lot of people would be outraged. I'm not saying these are my opinions, but is it possible shows don't feature fat women in a negative way because they don't want backlash from so many women who feel incorrectly portrayed?
Obviously we still have shows featuring exclusively skinny and beautiful women which can also be considered incorrect portrayal of the average woman, but I don't believe the solution to this problem is to make shows about fat women and glorify them.
poochyenarulez ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:11:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't really understand how so. Where did you come up with that idea?
shallowbookworm ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:42:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I tend to agree. There are different standards in place for men and women when it comes to dressing in clean, stylish clothes with hair combed and a clean face. I work retail and see/hear a lot of examples of this.
IrbyTumor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:39:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Easy, he's a misogynist. It's his opinion that he's sharing and claiming that it's everyone else's.
Next he'll explain glamour magazines as women's self hate.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 22:35:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not socially acceptable at all for a man to be a gross pig. What's socially acceptable is depicting men as gross pigs. Depict a woman as a gross pig and you're a fat-shaming misogynist.
Fidesphilio ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:11:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, depict a woman as a fat gross pig and you're the scriptwriter for a top-grossing summer comedy. Bonus points if the lead character is played by Melissa McCarthy or Rebel Wilson!
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:26:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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Fidesphilio ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:44:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, still misogyny. Perhaps not as extreme as some cases, but no less misogyny.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 22:51:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Fidesphilio ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:12:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TL:DR redditor has no idea what misogyny is and probably has a criminal record for domestic abuse.
DragonDai ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:20:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
TL;DR: Redditor lives in Tumblr and has no idea what the real world is like. Also thinks insults and defamation make him look super cool and edgy. Finally, literally has never had an original thought, ever, and can only parrot the bullshit learned in Gender Studies/Reddit.
EDIT: Almost forgot the most important one! This redditor honestly thinks that anyone who disagrees with them is LITERALLY Hitler. It's really the perfect storm of retard identity politics taken the shape of a person.
knightzeemo ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 18:38:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If it was that there wouldnt be any women at all.
Fidesphilio ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:52:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not so; it'd be just as it is now except maybe the women would be younger (easier to control and manipulate) and skinnier.
asshair ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:32:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd say it's because of nature. Maybe nature is inherently "misogynistic".
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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asshair ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 05:02:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Societal factor are transient.
These are universal and inherent to every society ever.
Nature dude.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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asshair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry. :/
Fidesphilio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You'd be wrong though, but good try.
asshair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How so?
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:07:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I mean it's not like the target audience of pawn stars is exactly into hot dudes...
EpicSquid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:28:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well they would be able to broaden their viewer spectrum.
icybluetears ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:43:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right?! I'd totally watch some hot guys at a pawn shop. Happy cake day!
iSerpens ยท -25 points ยท Posted at 18:09:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Feminist spotted
Donjuanme ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:51:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you use that word like, I assume, you'd use the word liberal or social justice. they aren't bad things, but for some reason you think they are.
iSerpens ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 20:57:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Feminism in terms of equality of the genders isn't a bad thing. When feminists want more and more privileges over men when the genders are already equal than that's a bad thing. Besides, there's a legitimate reason why shows often feature hot girls exclusively for the "female version" and it isn't because the creators are misogynists or whatever.
The reason why shows use hot girls almost exclusively is because the producers know that if they show hot girls than the show will be watched more by men who want to see hot girls. It works too. That's why they do it.
I'm not saying that it's fair or anything it's pretty fucked up tbh, but it's true that they only care about money. Anyway my reply was meant as a sort of joke anyway but it obviously wasn't perceived as one by 22+ people.
Anyways, once again, feminism isn't bad, but wouldn't you agree that the genders are already equal? That would make further feminism unnecessary because it would make female the dominant gender which it already is because of the way that humans function biologically.
The fact is that since virtually infinite females could be impregnated by one male, however if you have 1 female and 3 males than the males have to fight in order to pass on their genes to the next generation. What you end up with is females pretty much just choosing their mates while males end up fighting over females and such.
That being said, it's evolutionary advantageous to be competitive and aggressive. So essentially females are dominant naturally because they essentially select and choose which genes pass on to the next generation and which don't.
Combined with today's society where you have feminist groups, and Hillary running for president, it's obvious that females are pretty much taking over every profession. Look at the new ghostbusters trailer, they have female protagonists now instead of male protagonists.
All of this being said, females in general truly are dominant. I'd be happy to discuss this with you if you have any sort of objection or comment to make about what I just said. That being said, surely you can understand how the idea of females rising up against "oppression" that doesn't exist and being equal after already having all of the same rights as men do can be somewhat of a joke to me.
PeopleEatingPeople ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:31:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let me tell you why you need to evaluate yourself. No one asked for this story, so it is a bit weird to randomly dump this. Weird things you name: Hilary running for president as a sign of women taking over all jobs, when it would only be the first time they actually had a chance for the job at all. Action groups that even have a a female majority are pretty rare, one movie is not an example of a trend. I would also recommend to cut down on trying to explain modern dating with a vague evolutionary statements, it makes guys sound desperate, like they follow bad pick-up artist books. It makes them sound very uninvolved with real life. Women being allowed to choose their partner is in many places a new thing, people still alive remember how women had to be chaperoned on dates or the father just decided who she would marry. Many of even the most progressive West European countries have only outlawed marital rape 20-10 years ago or didn't allow married women to own their own bank account. Equal right doesn't mean equal chances, racism didn't just suddenly disappear when segregation wasn't allowed by law anymore. There are still many religious institutions that see women as inferior and even with laws in place that should give women equal rights there are still outdated mindsets that have a negative influence on how they are treated.
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h83r ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 16:40:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Drew Carrey Show memes?
thatJainaGirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Vintage memes.
stationhollow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Her name was Me Me.
knowsguy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:04:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, that's how it was pronounced, anyway.
joecb91 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:09:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Operation Repo?
Felt like half of the lineup on TruTV was repo shows a couple years ago
OneGoodRib ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:57:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
... Mimi from Drew Carey, you mean? I was trying to think what Drew Carey memes existed.
itty53 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:55:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kathy Kinney will always be the woman from Arachnophobia to me.
megafly ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:49:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Operation Repo completely staged. It says so in the credits
kingeryck ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:39:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god I remember her. Ew.
just_dots ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:36:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
According to Jim Jeffries just seeing a 2 will ruin your day.
cutemusclehead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was that from alcoholocaust?
just_dots ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, the latest one "Freedumb". It's on Netflix and it's the best one so far in my opinion. He's quickly approaching George Carlin's status of comedian and social commenter.
DiggleGick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I still love Bare, but the bit where he takes his son to get 3 shots in a day had me in hears.
cutemusclehead ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He doesn't get enough love on reddit. Still my favourite comedian.
LinuxSuperUser8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:39:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, i don't BLAME them, I was just surprised at how it all came together.
thunderclapMike ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:13:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because they suck fashion designer cock and they dont
jumanjicouldhappen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:26:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I worked at a storage facility and we hosted "Storage Wars" one time and they did the exact same thing. People who default on their storage units do not have thousands of dollars in goods stored in there. More often then not it was practically empty or trash. They planted so many items to "discover", not sure how the bidders actually make money. We had a regular group of guys that would come to our auctions and when they saw the storage wars crew they all left. They are notorious for buying ever bin just so they can plant stuff and film.
lol_camis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If the cast of the original pawn stars isn't sexy enough for you then you have some problems
Mako_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Happens all the time. This how the Property Brothers were chosen also.
interface2x ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I drive by that store almost every day.
Youtoo2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:03:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How much eas she paid?
buge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:10:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So the guy is completely lying?
RedBlimp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did the gig pay well?
LazyGangsta ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is the entire show fake, or just the backstories?
Like, for example the episode where they 'lost' the ring, was it planned, or did it actually happen?
LinuxSuperUser8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha, oh wow. That is one I remember teasing her about, and I know specifically that was faked for drama.
smilinfool ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Late to the party but I worked as a field producer and episode director on a couple of shows. They were real. I always thought of them as Petri dish documentaries. The scenarios were cooked up but the behaviours and decisions of the people were up to them. Since it was a competition and there was a prize involved US game show law kicked in, so only a few of us were actually allowed to interact with contestants, and when we did interact for interview etc, we could not reveal anything they did not know or influence in any way.
Of course we had psych profiles on everyone so we always new how to push their buttons for effect
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So essentially "reality shows" just use the "reality" genre as a marketing technique. It's just as Hollywood as anything else on TV. Good, I don't watch that garbage coming out of the plastic boxes anyway. I mean, who doesn't watch TV? I don't. Now you met one.
montanagrizfan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wondered what happened to that show. It seemed like they had no clue as to what they were buying.
AndMeEllen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So the real irony here is that 'reality tv' is anything but reality. Real shocker, huh?
It's basically that they script the premise, and then get real people who have no acting experience to improv whatever they can, which is why the acting is so shitty. Which is also why people hate watching this shit.
fishermansfriendly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
None of the people on that show are good looking according to google images.
Swimmingindiamonds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. Back in my modeling days, I went to an audition that called for "Young, Attractive Asian Models" for a reality show, only to find out it was casting for Flavor of Love 2. They really wanted an Asian girl in the cast for some reason. Pay was $100 a day. I noped the fuck out of there, obv.
HeyBriansOn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:33:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think I can understand why it got canceled
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PuIx9LYZAnc
countrykev ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have been past the building a lot since the show was filmed.
The business has closed.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isnt this how typical boy bands, rock bands, many major singing/radio/record stars are formed to begin with? First find who looks good, then put an instrument or mic in front of them and see what sticks? Been the thing for the past 4 decades no?
edwartica ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's hysterical. I remember watching that show actually. It was pretty bad too.
BullDolphin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"pron"
racheltinker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I live in the town where Pawn Queens was shot. The store it takes place in has been here for quite sometime, but I guess they just hired them for the show
RukiaMuir ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:00:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was just watching that show the other day.
brodymitchell ยท 3597 points ยท Posted at 14:57:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine was on Shark Tank recently. The episode hasn't aired yet so we don't know how they will edit the story to be, but they did get an actual deal with actual money from Mr. Wonderful.
JaguarGator9 ยท 2732 points ยท Posted at 15:33:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From what I've heard from previous responses to this question about Shark Tank, everything is 100% real. The only difference is that the actual meeting with the sharks takes hours instead of what it's edited down to (roughly 10 minutes).
brodymitchell ยท 1777 points ยท Posted at 15:55:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, he said they were in there for about an hour just getting drilled with questions. He said the most frustrating part was all four of them would be yelling questions at them simultaneously and it's hard to know who to respond to.
[deleted] ยท 1393 points ยท Posted at 16:22:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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TrustFriendComputer ยท 1458 points ยท Posted at 18:15:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a genre called "it's all real but guaranteed outcome."
That is if you sit someone down in a room for four hours and scream things at them you'll get 10 minutes of incoherent nonsense out of anyone but people directly trained to handle this nonsense. As the typical Reddit aside, this is why you don't let the police interrogate you for four hours without a lawyer - they'll get ten minutes of incoherent shit out of you they can present in court to talk about how you're contradicting yourself. Not all cops are scumbags (most aren't) but any non-scumbag cop can ask you anything they want with a lawyer sitting there. It's not really life-or-death, they can wait for the lawyer, they'll get OT pay if the lawyer takes a bit.
CyberneticPanda ยท 576 points ยท Posted at 20:35:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is a much more succinct explanation for why innocent people shouldn't talk to the police without a lawyer than I usually give. Have an upvote, and I'll be stealing this.
Diet_Coke ยท 82 points ยท Posted at 23:04:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How's this? You start out innocent, nothing you say will make you more innocent. Don't talk to the cops.
phl_fc ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:04:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being guilty or innocent has nothing to do with it, all that matters is what's presented in court. If they fluster you and get you to contradict yourself then you could end up in trouble even if you are innocent.
Foilcornea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:53:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you guys said the same thing. If it doesn't help you, why say anything at all.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:11:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
saying anything but "I need to call my lawyer" won't help you.
GameQb11 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:58:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not true, but it depends on the situation.
If I'm passing by a dead body on the street and a cop questions me, I'm not going to say "i want my lawyer"
detroitdoesntsuckbad ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 23:00:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That tracks.
ScottieDeuce84 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 03:19:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Innocent people should never talk to the police"
Check out this video that demonstrates why NO ONE should talk to the police. It's not a bash on police or rant about "am I being detained", but a lecture from a lawyer and police officer about how the odds are stacked against you and anything you say will ultimately condemn you. It's long but it is incredibly insightful
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
CyberneticPanda ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:22:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I like this video and recommend it to people, but this guy also uses long and convoluted hypotheticals to explain why you shouldn't talk to the police without a lawyer. The explanation from /u/trustfriendcomputer "they'll get 10 minutes of incoherent shit out of you they can present in court to talk about how you're contradicting yourself" is a lot more succinct.
Dirus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:13:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's to cover all the bases. If you tell that short bit to someone, they might still think otherwise in certain situations.
anal-fister ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:40:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When you get caught for stealing this, make sure you get a lawyer...
arealcheesecake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:04:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Im curious, why do you have to explain people this? Are you a lawyer or something?
CyberneticPanda ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:27:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, I'm just a guy that doesn't answer police questions, and it usually takes me a convoluted series of hypotheticals to explain to someone why a person "with nothing to hide" shouldn't answer police questions.
LelviBri ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:41:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The entire concept of "nothing to hide" is just plain stupid
DashingLeech ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:31:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It has a built-in naivetรฉ. Having "nothing to hide" implies that the police, prosecutors, judge, and jury are perfect at determining innocence and guilt. The reality is that the interrogator has no idea if your statements are you being honest about your "nothing to hide" or statements aimed to make them think you have nothing to hide. Even the innocent mess up details or make statements that can be interpreted multiple ways. The guilty have great stories about how they didn't do it too. Some of them can even be more convincing than the innocent.
popejubal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:54:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of people have the attitude that they should cooperate with the police. Unfortunately, that's a terrible attitude to have with the police if you might potentially be charged with a crime. Even more unfortunately, you might be charged with a crime any time you talk to the police ever.
ErrolSparker ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:20:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just watched an Episode of cops and saw that one of the guys gettin pulled over was nervous and the cop made note of it. So down the line he asks to search the car and the guy is like "no I'd rather You not". The Cop starts giving him the "oh your acting suspicious" bit. So the cop is like, if it's weed we can give you a ticket for it. So the guy getting pulled over goes "I have weed you can search my car, Because that's all you'll find" you know just trying to make the situation less of a pain for the cop. After the cop finds the weed, the fucker puts the guy in cuffs and puts him in the back of another squad car and tells him he's going to jail. I replayed the scene a few more times and he surely did say "if it's only weed I'm gonna give you a ticket"
Moral of the story, don't trust cops when they tell you shit like "if it's xyz, I'll give you a ticket" or that "nothing to hide" nonsense...
popejubal ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 03:48:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is illegal to lie to the police (although it is legal to say nothing). It is 100% legal for the cops to lie to you. And they can arrest you based on the lies that they tell you and based on your reaction to those lies.
stovinchilton ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:17:57 on July 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone broke into my friend and his GF house and stole TV and electronics. When they cops were looking around for clue they found a bowl for smoking marijuana. It was my friends. The cops asked if it were theirs and they denied it. They cop said the reason we are asking because we need to know if the person that broke in dropped it so we know if we need to send it to the lab to see if it has DNA on it. If its yours we won't do anything we just don't want to waste resources testing something when there is no point. They admitted it was theirs. They were both instantly handcuffed and taken to jail.
Blain ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:26:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's just generally good advice
TrustFriendComputer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go for it.
Captain_Swing ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 20:45:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obligatory post: Don't talk to the police video.
hewhoreddits6 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:43:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The cop from that video really opened my eyes to it over the fast talking lawyer who spoke first. Just his simple analogy of you being in a room with a detective who is trained in talking and interrogating. When he put it like that, it made me realize that I would never stand a chance against a detective, and that the best course of action would be for me to never do anything wrong and hope I never have to end up in that chair.
Captain_Swing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:09:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, no matter how smart you are, 20 years experience and training will school you.
hewhoreddits6 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:00:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do like his analogy of you going into the ring with a championship boxer because it makes the interview process into something tangible. You can obviously see the difference in skill between the boxer and yourself and you know you're going to lose. Since the interview is mental however, you wouldn't make that distinction and choose to fight anyway despite how outclassed you are.
benzoic ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:09:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of those cops think they are legitimately doing their job. They think they have "broken you" or "seen through you." They will nag on details that have nothing to do with anything and make no sense. "He couldn't remember the price of his slurpee and first said he paid with a visa, but his visa was cancelled, and he was only carrying a Mastercard."
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:53:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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TrustFriendComputer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:50:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Well first, no, no lawyers at 2 AM. You'll have to wait. Possibly until Monday if you're picked up Friday evening. And you'll possibly be waiting in jail. See: how the cops can be a dick to you (Friday at 9 PM? Time to go question him!).
Mostly you'll be released on bond. At which point you can find a lawyer in your own time. Sometimes if they're not charging you they'll just release you. Do the same.
If you can't make bond or they want you for a crime so serious there is no bond it gets sticky. These are rare. So you'll hang around a bit, make bond, then be able to get a lawyer.
If you have a lawyer on retainer that's different. Most cop shows do this because inserting a three day dance into the proceedings doesn't help with crime drama. But it's far from the norm. Basically at some point they'll let you go on bail, pick up a lawyer then. There's also a maximum time they can detain you without charging you. So there's a lot of ways they can be an asshole in the process, and they may use all of them.
Edit: To expound a little more, if they're being scumbags they'll try to convince you that you just need to talk to them and they'll let you go. Much faster than dragging it out, then getting a lawyer, and then getting back there, right? But think it through. Why are you stuck there? Because the police are keeping you there. If they really wanted to expedite things they'd let you go ASAP so you could go get a lawyer and then they could get their questions answered. But instead they want you to answer them without a lawyer. The entire reason for the delay is them, and it's entirely because they don't want that lawyer there. If they wanted you to have that lawyer and be talking with them you'd be out immediately with a fist full of business cards right from the cops. Hell they could drop you at the local library and you could research every attorney in the city and have one within a few hours. So never think "it'll just be faster if I answer". They're the ones making it take time. At some point you have to see a judge (and get a public defender or get the ability to find a lawyer) or be released. It's really a simple equation. Just the cops know jail is dehumanizing and sucks and they purposefully make it suck as hard as they can.
Calamity701 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:22:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If cops ask you to come in, say "no, thanks" and lawyer up. Of course if you are under arrest you have to go. Btw, pretending to be a police officer and telling someone to be at the police station at 2 pm is a common trick of thiefs. Once you return your house is empty.
If you are at a police station and being asked questions, tell them that you are using your right to remain silent until your lawyer tells you otherwise. If you can make a call, tell a friend to get a lawyer for you. If you can't afford one, wait until you are taken in front of a judge and request a public defender there.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:53:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I apologize for being very ignorant about police interrogation beyond what I've seen on The Shield, but how does having a lawyer there protect you from contradicting yourself?
k-selectride ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:01:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Presumably you'll talk to the lawyer prior to the interrogation and they'll get your story straight. Then during the interrogation they can make sure there isn't any funny business.
TrustFriendComputer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:36:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lawyer will take down the police's questions, then ask them to you in a safe environment the police legally can't monitor. They'll hear your side of events and give a prepared statement to the police. They can question you on details without pressure, and know to omit details you're unsure of (did you get Diet Coke or ice tea? Did the cashier have brown or blonde hair? Etc). It's called a prepared statement for a reason. They offer legal advice on what questions you should answer, how to answer, how to not answer without incriminating yourself.
BullDolphin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:01:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You had me until you tried to tell me about how nice cops are.
Personal mileage may vary. I've had those fuckers steal money and lie under oath with their bare faces hanging out. And I wasn' even a criminal, just in the proverbial 'wrong place'.
cops are dicks. It's the job.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:22:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The police don't care about the truth.
SalamandrAttackForce ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:02:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They do. But they're trained to extract it, not uncover it. They also believe in interrogation tactics and overestimate their own ability to read people. They want the truth, but are often biased against it.
hewhoreddits6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:44:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like that's more how it is in the movies where cops will just yell at you until they get what they want.
SalamandrAttackForce ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:12:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Interrogation methods are designed to get information out of people. That doesn't necessarily mean they're screaming at you. Maybe they're acting like your friend and pretending to sympathize with you. The bias is that they're trying to get incriminating information out of someone. If they've decided you're guilty, things that show guilt are proof and things that show innocence are just lack of confession. There are a few famous cases of innocent people confessing to murders they didn't commit because of interrogation methods. In those cases, they kept going until the person was so psychologically stressed, they said whatever the police wanted to hear.
AnExoticLlama ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:41:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cue "Don't talk to cops" YouTube video
pgmd4ever ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Totally stealing this, thanks. Will give credit to you so I guess it's not really stealing.
noted1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:17:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good advice for Hillary Clinton.
shamelessnameless ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:19:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obligatory everyone watch that 45 minute lawyer and cop don't talk to the cops speech
stonercd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:46:23 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Charlie Brooker does an excellent explanation of this in screenwipe
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
dude
[deleted] ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 19:24:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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TrustFriendComputer ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 20:09:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly man, truth of the world is that most people want to draw a paycheck, go home and enjoy it. Cop or not. The other truth is that most people the cops are interrogating are guilty. And most of them are shitheads. The cops interrogate a lot of shitheads. The average "interrogation" goes something like:
"Franklin, did you steal something from the convienence store"
"I didn't do shit!"
"We have you on video grabbing two six packs and running out of the store. We found you with half a six pack and 9 empty beer cans off the side of the road three miles down."
"I didn't do shit pig!"
Needless to say this level of shithead creates some disrespect for your fellow man. Which is to say after enough of them (and remember, this is what 95% of interrogations are like) they just generally assume you're guilty and a shithead from the word go. Which is why lawyers are nice.
What you have to remember is they just want to go through the day with the minimum of irritation, go home, and be done with it. Be polite, ask for a lawyer, don't be a shithead.
Now a good 5-10% of them are just fucking assholes. Good advice? Be polite, ask for a lawyer, don't be a shithead. They'll try to provoke you, ask for a lawyer, don't be a shithead. You're the bigger man/woman. Make sure you tell the lawyer what they did to provoke you, drop a bag of bricks on them if you can, don't be a dick.
In any case, safest assumption is they don't really care, they just want to get home eventually, so be nice, ask for a lawyer, don't say dick, don't be a dick. Should you have civil liberties regardless of whether you're a dickhead or not? Yeah. But being a dickhead isn't gonna earn you any points.
BarryManpeach ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:25:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cue the inevitable "but if good cops don't rat out the bad cops then they're bad too" comments
nmotsch789 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:24:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Those comments usually ignore the fact that the bad cops often only still have their jobs because of political connections, and ratting them out will do nothing except get your boss mad at you and breed contempt from your coworkers.
BarryManpeach ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:50:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. There's a really good Better Call Saul episode that references this. The good/bad thing is sort of a false dichotomy anyway.
TrustFriendComputer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well it's worse than that. Bad cops are often good cops from management's perspective (and they are management). Our legal system is founded on the idea that it's better to let 10 guilty men go free than see one innocent man hanged. But a cop who gets 1 guilty man and 1 innocent man convicted got two convictions. And since department performance is measured in convictions, he's a good cop.
chickpeaonchickpea ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 18:47:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who has never heard of this show, I was incredibly confused about what you guys were talking about. I was thinking along the lines some kind of underwater quiz show in a shark cage where they question you for hours with sharks swimming around you. I now realise this is probably a show similar to Dragons Den.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:17:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha, would be pretty odd with a show with where people are put in a real shark tank, holding meetings and these animals wondering why the human can't answer their simple questions in shark-language :D and yes it is exactly the same formula as dragons den!
SalamandrAttackForce ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:06:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a show concept owned by Sony, so it's literally the same thing with different people in various countries that Sony sells
CyberneticPanda ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:37:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would watch the fuck out of this show you describe. They could remove a bar from the cage every time you give a wrong answer!
(edit) I just thought of the name for the final round: Chum Challenge!
Sureshadow ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:31:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is exactly the same as Dragons Den
skittymcbatman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:00:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But 10/10 would watch your version.
Pa5trick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
exact same show but different region, actually. Similar to "Americas got talent" vs "britains got talent"
KeybladeSpirit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay now I'm confused. Are we talking about actual sharks business sharks?
FogSeeFrank ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks good for the sharks and bad for the seller lol
tigerking615 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:45:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean... to be fair, if they ask questions for an hour and the person struggles with 2 minutes of questions, the producers are going to pick those 2 minutes to build the drama.
synth22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's why the supplier needs to command the room. Sure, it's an intimidating thing to do, and much easier said, but if you think about it, it'll warrant a great deal of respect from the Sharks, and show that you aren't someone to be easily walked over.
SalamandrAttackForce ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:58:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It makes more sense now why some people are so annoyed/mean to the investors. I always thought it was weird that people asking for hundreds of thousands of dollars couldn't act nice for 10 minutes. That they were in the wrong line of work. But I guess we're seeing clips from a long meeting that isn't going well and they've already hit their breaking point.
imanauthority ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:20:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, I pitched my startup at Y Combinator and some less well known accelerators and this is 100% true there too. Though technically YC's interviews are exactly 10 minutes.
whydoesthisalwayshap ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:47:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've actually read somewhere that even though the deals get "closed" on the show, a lot of them don't actually come to market because there's much behind the scenes with lawyers and and due diligence whatnot and Shark the makes the deal will always have some sort escape clause.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-07-15/shark-tank-do-two-thirds-of-deals-fall-apart
LupineChemist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:49:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's 100% how it works in the corporate world, too.
You agree in principle in a pitch meeting and then get to work. I have no idea what the percentage is, but I'd be surprised if even have the deals actually get done. The investor will think about it and may just want to back out or they may find legitimate issues with fundamental tech or accounting or something else. But all they have to say in general is that they're uncomfortable with the bookkeeping.
triangle60 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:22:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is due diligence on shark tank, and they sometimes mention it on the show. Of course you wouldn't invest without it, especially given the actually very little info that the sharks get. Additionally, there is a 5% royalty on every product that goes on the show, even the ones that don't get a deal.
TDenverFan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The royalty went away after season 1
ladycoleopterist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:30:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well that explains why the editing team always has so many shots of entrepreneurs looking back and forth with their eyes really wide open and mouths slack.
AlcoholicCelery ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 17:21:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, get back to finding obscure facts about how bad the Chiefs used to be.
JaguarGator9 ยท 274 points ยท Posted at 17:26:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Chiefs have only won the Super Bowl in years where the Eurovision Song Contest ended in a tie.
Under today's rules, it is not possible for Eurovision to end in a tie.
Capn_Cook ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:44:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't even have to be in /r/nfl to see the statistical obscurities of /u/jaguargator9
AlcoholicCelery ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:32:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
:)
deevandiacle ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:47:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At least I have the Royals.
Rampantlion513 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:21:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh shit I didn't even notice it was /u/JaguarGator9 until someone else said something
BargnaniBooty ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:49:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Im very curious as to how you know these Chiefs facts
HillaryClintonsPussy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:42:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So, I'm ten minutes down this front page rabbit hole and I see a random NFL stat from Jaguargator. Thought I was on /r/NFL for a moment.
Coffeesq ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:51:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is soothing. Fuck the Chiefs.
EvantheFreak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
:(
fuckswithboats ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:08:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Love it!! I'm using this against my sister's husband who is the most obnoxious Chefs fan in the world.
He is certain this is their year every single damn year.
Hiei2k7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Football? In my /r/askreddit?
Dr_Ghamorra ยท 377 points ยท Posted at 16:24:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who's worked in video production it's very easy to change the way something is perceived through relatively simple editing. I can take a stammering, rambling, incoherent interview and make an audience cry.
Countsfromzero ยท 1099 points ยท Posted at 16:57:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In a college class we were all given about 4 hours of footage and then drew a note from a jar saying like "make the guy in the red shirt seem super interesting" or "make the girl in the blue dress really awkward and aloof" it was absolutely crazy what was able to be done, directly conflicting notes were both pulled off with different edits.
[deleted] ยท 395 points ยท Posted at 18:37:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is a really cool assignment, it must have been really interesting to watch them all at the end, having poured over all the footage yourself to find your own angle on it.
Countsfromzero ยท 272 points ยท Posted at 18:55:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was an intro class at community college actually, my own effort was honestly crap but the best one was a guy that was way above our level just taking college for the paper that says he can do what he can do. He cut it into a horror movie trailer complete with jump scare and vo. I forget what his note said :P
temp_sales ยท 120 points ยท Posted at 23:32:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder how the teacher would react to him making something amazing but not related to his note.
Make the midget seem tall.
"Fuck that, horror movie it is."
KindaTwisted ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:39:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I could see how a tall midget might scare some people.
jlenney1 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:45:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Case in Point...
https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/imgur-peter-dinkas.png
Thinks_Too_Logically ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:51:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Honey, I blew up the
babyman-eating dwarf."[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:57:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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OtherKindofMermaid ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:16:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It makes you more competitive. Some employers won't hire you to do anything other than cleaning toilets without a college degree.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:18:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm simply talking video production.
kblaney ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:00:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From the description that appeared to be a single class as part of a larger degree. I could easily see that class as filling a requirement in a number of art/communication degrees or even as a humanities elective in pretty much any degree.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:47:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just having a degree in anything is great to have as a backup plan. He may find another opportunity in a related field but that field may ask for a degree as a standard. A lot of fields don't even ask for a related degree. Some just look for that bachelor's and will consider you.
SuperSmith_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably to make a horror trailer.
LelviBri ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:42:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Make one guy look mysterious -> creates a horror trailer xD
Megalomania192 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
'The Hot Chick Dies First'?
ot1smile ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:08:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*pored
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:28:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL! Thanks :)
notasrelevant ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:06:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"You assholes! She's clearly supposed to be melancholic, not joyous! How dare you misrepresent her?!
trivial_trivium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:57:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*pored
kking0411 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:05:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would love to watch something like this with all the different edits
jaws-theme ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:47:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I realllly want to see what that looks like.
naliuj2525 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:39:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of the "Cruz your own Adventure" challenge that the Daily Show came up with a while back. You can find some of the submissions on youtube.
nmotsch789 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:25:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What was the class?
OneMisfit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you still have those videos, by any chance? :p Seems like it'd be an interesting watch, I'm curious
cannedcream ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds like it would be a lot of fun to do. Wish I had gotten an assignment like that in college.
SandersGuccifer2016 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is a great assignment. I want to do this.
MpegEVIL ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds super cool.
alblaster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:34:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this reminds me of the fan made trailer of Seinfeld that's made to look like a horror movie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0RNXHZ9ajE
zach2992 ยท 88 points ยท Posted at 17:05:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's way too easy. Back in high school I had this segment on the morning anmouncements where I basically just went around asking people stuff. I asked one girl a question and she had less than 10 seconds of "Um..." while deciding her answer. Edited it to make it seem like she took a REALLY long time to decide.
[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 19:48:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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zach2992 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:36:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
However long I wanted, really. IIRC class ended at 9:21 and we'd put announcements on at 9:15 at the latest. If we wanted to use the whole time we could.
Shredlift ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How did you edit it to stretch it out?
zach2992 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:41:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We just chopped it up and put other things in between. I think we made asking her maybe the 4th or 5th response. We took a few seconds of her ums and then put in a couple more people responding. Back to the ums and even more people responding. Just kept repeating until it felt like she was trying to decide for a long time.
SteveFoerster ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:55:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Through judicious video editing I made a colleague look like a genius with his shit together, and an audience of five hundred people at a sales conference cheered at the end of his segment. It was eye opening.
jonjennings ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:44:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Relevant segment here from Black Mirror's creator Charlie Brooker:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBwepkVurCI
Skip forward to 2:00 to avoid the "what is video editing?" and get to the bit where he shows how to take a single set of raw reality-TV footage and tell any story you want.
discostu10 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 17:01:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Relevant proof. ..https://youtu.be/gVQuZf1FewU
Belgand ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:27:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This explanation from Hitchcock is a classic example of how editing can change the audience's perceptions.
It doesn't even need to be a blatant lie, as in the example. Simply adjusting the reactions shown (or not) and the order events are portrayed in (even if you preserve the timeline) will create an effect.
bruddahmacnut ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:01:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is there a term for the slow music they play that make people cry during the emotional parts?
rayn_phal ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:13:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's CRAZY easy. In HS i had an internship that involved video editing at a "leadership camp" for middle schoolers.
We were making a video retrospective thing for the camp once and we went around telling them to "make your favorite animal noise" then made the video seem like we asked "what does your roommate sound like when the snore"
Not exactly high comedy but yea.
Sillyferus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:03:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mr Charlie Brooker gives an excellent example of this editing on his very excellent Screenwipe programme.
Dapplegonger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:23:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just like Statistics. I remember getting an assignment in my Computer Science class in high school where we were given a record of grades in all the classes in the school (all of them were anonymous, but grade levels were attached to them) for several years in a row and were told to use that along with publicly available information about average test scores and pass rates at our school to analyze how our school was doing, whether comparing our school to other schools, our school now to our school in the past, or even comparing how different grade level students or students in different classes do relative to each other. Since it was an intro level class at a public school, most people churned out the mininum amount of effort required to pass the assignment, but a group of us that probably should've skipped straight to APCS instead worked together to figure out all sorts of different ways you can spin the same information. It was crazy how you can spin the same information in such different ways, and how easy it was to do it.
blaghart ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:58:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hell that principle is what "faith healers" and "psychics" depend on.
Halvus_I ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:49:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
'The Loser Edit'
TriscuitCracker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:04:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I want to do that. I would love to be a film or tv editor. I love that if you put shots together one way you completely change the impression of the audience, combined with well-placed music.
CrazyPlato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:28:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I kind of want to see this happen. Someone get this man a stammering, incoherent interview and let's see him turn it into an inspirational speech.
shamelessnameless ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:19:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So can I, but probably not for the same sort of crying you want
Texaskate ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:50:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"I like turtles"
CapWasRight ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 15:39:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I think it's an exception to the rule since there are real business deals happening as a result of it.
Xsythe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From what I've heard, the deals don't always happen.
CapWasRight ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:23:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, but that's because they do due diligence before signing, not because it's staged for the show. This sort of thing happens with non televised business deals too, of course.
I-Do-Doodles ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:26:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True, but when they do happen they are very real. Sometimes people will change their minds after filming is done and we just don't see it.
Justausername1234 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:20:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If the deal doesn't happen, it's mainly due to something that the sharks weren't told about, or an unexpected event
baconbits1792 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:32:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Am I the only one who wants to see an hour long video of the cat drawing guy?
AlwaysAGroomsman ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:48:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here's a great listicle on ST with good facts. http://www.businessinsider.com/shark-tank-behind-the-scenes-secrets-2015-10
screenwriterjohn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:15:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In America, you can't rig a game show. But in Shark, they do have the right to withdraw their offers. It's in the disclaimer
mattattaxx ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:44:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I worked for a company that was on the Canadian equivalent, Dragon's Den. They didn't make it on the show but they were meeting with the Dragons for about 4 hours.
TrollingPanda-_- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:37:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heard some people take 3 hours in there and they do background checks and everything. I am amazed at how they can edit it down to 10 minutes roughly for the show.
JakeDoubleyoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:53:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That shouldn't sound surprising, but holy shit is that show well-edited then.
seeking_hope ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:38:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I saw one of the episodes on how they make it (Beyond the Tank? Something like that) and they said the hardest part was when the contestant first walks in they have to stand there for 5 (10?) minutes without talking so they can get the lighting right. Someone was saying that was the most intimidating part of the whole experience.
LamarMillerMVP ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:52:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The biggest difference by far is that they do diligence on the companies after the show and often take the money back.
It's less of an issue now, with better companies, but early in the show many of the investments wouldn't stand after the Sharks reviewed the company financials.
tfresca ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And the sharks can back out after the fact.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why wouldn't it be? The only downside the sharks have is that they have to see projects that are appealing to the viewers (instead of some super profitable formatting software from a niche area of accounting or something), and they can always invest in other things on their own time. Meanwhile, everything they invest in automatically gets a ton of free marketing and an initial customer base simply because it's on Shark Tank. Not to mention they probably get a generous salary just for appearing.
Altostratus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
However, they also have a tendency to purposely put on awful inventions (like boardgames) clearly to make fun of them, when there was no intention of a deal...I mean, it's not fake, but it's sure cruel and disingenuous
autobahn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well and the fact that the deals made are preliminary and subject to due diligence.
TrekkiMonstr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard that a lot of the time, a shark will go back on the deal later on after the show. Kind of an asshole thing to do, IMO.
anarrogantworm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well yeah but then there is also due diligence done before the deal is actually put through in any way.
adidasbdd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heard that after the show, they don't have a deal really until the sharks do their due diligence.
pappalegz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's weird seeing your username outside of /r/NFL
McIgglyTuffMuffin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:17:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In the same vein, i'be read that deliberations on a show like Food Network's Chopped can sometimes take up to 90 minutes for the judges to figure out which dish was the worst.
I wish someone paid me to eat food and then argue which was the worst dish..
lostmau5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd imagine they would need all those hours trying to fit Kevin O'Leary's giant head into frame.
Ramza_Claus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
not EVERYTHING...
Lord_Of_Shits ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They also sometimes don't go through with the deal after doing due diligence
pumpinpat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heard Mark Cuban on Stern talk about it. He said the same thing, that the presentations take a few hours and that they really do put up money.
REDZED24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:32:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. Had a coworkers daughter on dragons den (the original version of shark tank from Canada) and besides a few edits for dramatics, it was completely legit. She didn't get the deal:(
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:48:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not only that but plenty of deals fall through after they have agreed to invest.
Many, many times the Sharks have to pull out once they start due diligence on what seemed like a good opportunity.
Ragamuffinn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:51:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty late, but I had a professor who worked on the show as well as the Canadian version. Apparently a very small percentage of the handshaked "deals" actually go through. There's a lot that can happen after the investors have their people do some more homework on the companies.
Xenuear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:00:40 on September 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your comment was also hijacked. http://www.suggest.com/tv/1530581/the-truth-behind-reality-shows/?_fc=1530581&utm_campaign=sug-fbk-d-us-37495f99&utm_source=fbk&_fcs#page=11
raq0916 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:38:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ive also read that no matter what you have to give 5% to NBC, even if you dont make a deal
at_work_cant_talk ยท 233 points ยท Posted at 16:06:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The actual pitch is around 1hour and they edit it to 5-7 minutes. Their editing team is doing a really good job.
ChiefGamken ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 19:59:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have spoken directly to Damon John. He said the shortest pitch they ever received was 18 minutes, and the longest was over 4 hours. Some how they actually managed to get 10 minutes of showable footage out of that 18 minute pitch, wouldn't say which product it was though.
bsbbtnh ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 23:25:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The 18 minute pitch could have been one of the small segments they use. Some episodes they show 3-4 pitches within a couple minutes before one of the commercial breaks, usually all rejects.
Also, even though a deal is made on the show, afterwards is different. The shark's lawyers and accountants do a thorough audit on the contestants business, then an extensive contract is drawn up, and usually months later they finish the deal. A LOT of the deals fall through before that point. Sometimes they'll even show the deal falling through on the show, as an update.
ChiefGamken ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:27:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I believe it was somewhere in the ballpark of 60%
SCIPM ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:39:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
60% fall through or 60% are successful?
ChiefGamken ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:41:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fall through. Not only are many people simply not able to come to terms with the agreement, many people use the shark tank for a quick "15 minutes of fame" and have no interest in making a deal the entire time.
possiblysabrina ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:09:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen this on dragons den too, how the dragons caught the pitchers out with their "15 minutes of fame" scam-if-you-will. It's funny sometimes to see the pitchers freeze up and then straight out go flush and deny it.
bduddy ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:43:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not hard to tell when a guy just wants a 10-minute ad on primetime TV. I think the producers reserve the right to take like 2.5% to dissuade that, but still...
heartshapedpox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cuban confirmed that during an AMA!
LupineChemist ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:47:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, that's how it works with real VC pitches, too. You get an agreement in principle at the pitch meeting and then you have to make the real deal where the devil is in the details.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:08:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably the bluetooth guy who wanted to surgically install the device in your ear. He didnt really have a plan, just that idea
the_number_2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:21:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I was doing broadcast work โ this was for broadcast news, but it's a good rule for most things โ we held to the 7:1 ratio. For every 1 unit of footage you NEED, shoot 7 units to have a good selection. If my producer needs B-roll for a script that plans to run on a 2 minute segment, I need to capture near 15 minutes of footage to make sure I have a safe amount of footage to use.
myselfoverwhelmed ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:53:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's honestly why I still watch the show with my roommates. Reality TV doesn't interest me, but catching all the nuanced editing is fun. Like seeing how they are able to mask a 10 minute cut and being able to transition two completely different sections together. Especially interesting knowing it's all real, since that's what turns me off from shows like Pawn Stars or the gold hunting shows... I can't tell what's real and what's scripted.
Editing is easier when you can script the scene however you like.
OneGoodRib ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:09:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, how do some of these people have enough to talk about for that long? Seems like the succinct pitches in the show are enough, I wonder what else they say for the full, unedited pitch.
notasrelevant ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:17:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably more details on their business plans and products? How have they been trying to grow, how will the money be used, product changes/improvements, expected sales, distribution, potential problems/solutions, marketing plans, benefits of the partnership, control over the business, etc.
I can definitely see those things taking quite a bit of time to discuss, especially for the more detailed proposals.
murdermeformysins ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:59:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Think of every nitpick you could make about a business. They talk about that
futbolfan10 ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 15:04:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What was his product? I love shark tank so I'd like to see him get the deal when the episode airs
0BV1U5TR011 ยท 173 points ยท Posted at 15:15:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not entirely sure about this but I think if you are on the show you can't disclose certain information about the episode before it airs due to non-disclosure agreements.
brodymitchell ยท 141 points ยท Posted at 15:22:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I can't say much but I will say that his product was only successful because of Reddit.
7LeagueBoots ยท 401 points ยท Posted at 15:23:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clearly it's hot sauce.
hectma ยท 139 points ยท Posted at 15:32:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe he's marketing ice soap.
nevragner ยท 99 points ยท Posted at 16:01:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ice soap and two am chili, followed by 2am Ice Chili Soap.
soawesomejohn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:44:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was thinking that someone had figured out how to make soap out of hot sauce.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:44:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That might not be as bad of an idea as it sounds.
Davis660 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:53:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It absolutely is.
carpy22 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:01:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now that's a blast from the past.
-nautical- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ice soap and chill?
grubas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:12:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was two different little DIY things that popped up at the same time. Ice soap was basically a bar of soap and ice on the bottom, so you could soap up and wash down with one thing. 2am chili was...chili that you just cooked overnight. They were mocked quite a bit.
Shit got crazy and somebody went and combined the two into ice chili.
-nautical- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha what? I was just referencing the "netflix and chill" joke that went around for a while, but that's interesting! Thanks!
grubas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, but I had no clue what the fuck Netflix and chill meant. I meant it as drink some beer and watch Netflix. Found out why some people gave me weird looks.
Just told you because I saw your account was young enough to have missed it.
-nautical- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:19:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I see. I'll look it up
carritlover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Energy drink! Made with 2amchiliIceSoap! Mmmmm~!
vazod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:43:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can we deal with it?
LuxNocte ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:59:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As you can see, Mark Cuban is very dangerous and may attack at any time.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:46:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
IT'S RICE
Real_Adam_Sandler ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:09:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The auto fedora
abcedarian ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:51:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe it's that zip seam
knockoutking ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:53 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hey, i like hot sauce. did something happen with hot sauce + reddit?
7LeagueBoots ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:02:07 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I only caught the tail end of it, but someone started up what seems to be a successful hot sauce business after a bunch of redditors encouraged him to do so.
There was a post a while ago of him sending out the first major shipment of bottles.
IFuckNegroes ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:30:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh fuck off, Hillary Clinton!
sulihpoeht ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:12:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
2 meta 4 me
Jaded_IT_Guy ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 15:31:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We did it Reddit!!
eletricmojo ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:50:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did he promote the Cumbox?
bsbbtnh ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:35:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"We have a line of incredible cum-jects."
"Cum-jets?"
"Objects you cum into or on. Cumboxes, cumsox, cumjars, you know, cumjects."
"What. The. Fuuuuck..."
Mr Wonderul "Tell me about the MONEY!"
"We've sold over 10,000 cumjects since we launched last week. Our most popular is the cumper cables."
"What's the profit margin on your 'cumjects'?"
"Well, they are produced in China for about $1 a piece, and we sell them for $100. But if you use a cumpon code on our website, we give a $3.50 discount."
"And what's stopping me from opening up a cumpeting business and undercutting you?"
"We add value by cumming on the objects before we send them out. Plus we have a monopoly on Reddit, and any product copying us would be downvoted to oblivion."
"I'll give you $10,000 for a 3.50% royalty, and 30% equity. And if you accept, we are definitely not shaking hands."
eletricmojo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:18:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This sounds like a sales pitch for an apple product.
PurpleDotExe ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:00:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Designer cumboxes?
IDrinkUrMilksteak ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:41:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Procrastination and cat videos?
Dragonogon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:51:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was it a dick butt tank.
Or better yet, a reddit alien tank?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Beefy fuckin Jerky.
DeathNinja93 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:33:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reddit, we out here!
Aedesius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My guess is Taft Clothing.
tommygunz007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of the people on the show said that there is a disclosure period of up to three months, and that the investor basically vanished and gave them nothing. I have heard also that they don't hand a check over like a week later, that there is lawyers and contracts and it can take 6 months to do the deal and by then the business could collapse.
LelviBri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, now I'm even more curious
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obviously he imports ice from Alaska to Africa, using cats...
Sharkbaitm8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was it bleach?
-MOPPET- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:33:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Zip seam?
swyx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
seriously I would love to find out when you can disclose.. if you could please reply back/get your friend to AMA that would be awesome
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Correct-The-Record-O-Matic ?
armchairracer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So he sells bidets?
jlenney1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We did it Reddit!
DerpSherpa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:08:33 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is he selling shares in a cum box?
Goldfinger888 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Commentng for youtube link to episode once it airs
Zippolovespoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure you can disclose the product but not the outcome. I had a friend go on shark tank earlier this year and he was able to say what he was pitching.
greyjackal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's already disclosed the outcome, though. So I guess he has to keep schtum on the product/person's name.
EmilioMolesteves ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:31:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He did it backwards and now we will never know!
justanothersmartass ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:48:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He invented a new kind of safe.
EmilioMolesteves ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a butt plug safe that only unlocks when the properly programmed anal cavity is plugged in.
isosceles1980 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:32:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Va-poo-rize.
Jakester5112 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 17:05:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You lose the deal if you tell anyone about the results before the show airs. They'll also sue you.
BasketeerOverHere ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:29:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not that the show shouldn't have the right to do that, but in this particular show's case, it seems kind of silly. For something like The Bachelor, revealing the outcome before it airs would be really detrimental to the ratings, but with a show like Shark Tank, I don't think anybody watches it to see whether or not they get the deal, but rather just to see the cool products.
Jakester5112 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:34:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. The terms of the show say that you'll lose the deal and be sued though.
OtherKindofMermaid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And really stupid products you can't believe anyone would buy.
heartshapedpox ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:01:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I own a Scrub Daddy!
OtherKindofMermaid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was one of the okay ones. I'm talking about the useless accessory crap. Like the fake phone for phone addicts. That one didn't get a deal.
I'm really sick of all the food products. It seems like they have at least one per episode these days.
heartshapedpox ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I also hate the food ones. I wanna se inventions!
Redbulldildo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:11:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I doubt it, you're not even guaranteed a deal when they make it on the show. They're not dumb, there's a lot more research into a product that they need to do before they can commit massive amounts of money.
Jakester5112 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. They do due diligence after the show before they invest. But ABC doesn't want to give out any details about the show (even though it wouldn't affect anything).
superiority ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:10:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, but saying, "An indeterminate person got a deal" doesn't actually give anyone any useful information.
nomadofwaves ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:00:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So I was researching this fact:
According to the clause, all contestants were required to give Finnmax, Shark Tank's production company, either 2 percent of their profits or 5 percent equity in their company. This rule applied regardless of the deal struck with investors, and all contestants since Season One were obliged to agree to it.
Then I saw that Mark Cuban gave their lawyers an ultimatum. Remove the equity clause or he wasn't coming back. Now companies appearing on the show don't have to cough up a percentage of their company to the production company just for appearing.
http://www.inc.com/will-yakowicz/mark-cuban-forces-shark-tank-to-remove-equity-clause.html
OtherKindofMermaid ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:19:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mark Cuban seems like a really good guy.
Burdiac ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:31:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That and it hurts his position to negotiate and then if he strikes a deal hurts his business by having an equity partner that doesn't add value.
starkiller388 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:52:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A guy I knew in college was also on it, but it was one of the most panned proposals they ever had on the show. His business partner threatened to punch out one of the sharks on air.
carritlover ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:07:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh--Mr. Wonderful seems to be the absolutely worst one to make deals with. "Listen, you pay me 50 cents of every item sold for perpetuity, and I'll give you 24k and you may call me once every 6 months."
murdermeformysins ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:00:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he also tends to take the higher risk deals tho
pack170 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:08:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cuban takes a lot of the higher risk ones too just to show off how rich he is.
SethBacon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:24:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did he actually Get the money yet? My understanding is that most of the deals they make don't pass through due diligence.
aliph ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
not that most don't make it through due diligence, but all investments are subject to due diligence.
soldiercross ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:24:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never watched shark tank. Love dragons den (Canada).
TangoZippo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shark's Tank is a bit different. The concept is the same, but the structure is changed:
Fewer pitches per episode
Bigger personalities on the show (people like Mark Cuban who were household names even before appearing... relatively few people in Canada new O'Leary before DD, unless you were a regular BNN watcher)
Less joke pitches (the shitty ones that the producers know will fail but are good for a lark) on the US one
The US one does background on the pitchers -- there's a kind of promotional video that maybe shows them talking, their family, a bit about the business and such. Unlike in Canada where it's just an oral pitch in the den
skatchawan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:13:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read about many deals in the Canadian version falling through after the show , looks like the same may be true in US version (this is the only article I bothered to find) http://qz.com/696123/shark-tank-is-a-great-deal-for-entrepreneurs-and-other-myths-about-the-hit-show/
MercurialMadnessMan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:49:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know companies who have gone on the show just for the PR, they don't care about the deals at all.
TheSheikYerbouti ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We would all really appreciate it if you were to follow up when the episode releases.
PortugueseBenny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:37:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your friend got a deal from Paul Orndorff?
Charwinger21 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, how they cut it has a huge effect on how it is perceived.
I know a guy who was on Dragon's Den up in Canada, and they took a part with him listening to a question and showed it right after a question was asked in order to make it look like he was just standing around (it was supposed to look like he was unable to answer the question, but it just looked like he was listening).
Halvus_I ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:48:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shark Tank is not your average show. For the most part, its the real deal. Its real business people with money on the line. You dont even get on Shark Tank until your product has some real potential.
toolong_cannotread ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:12:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard on Dragons Den, the Canadian version, that occasionally, they'll take a venture they are already interested in, and bring them on the show to pitch it for the publicity and pretend it's the first time they're hearing it. Is there any truth to that?
Edit: sorry op, I forgot you said your friend was on it, so you'd have about as much access to info as anyone. But if there is someone who can answer, I'm still curious!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So you can tell us nothing. Good job.
TrollingPanda-_- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:35:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I want to know if he is actually a complete asshat or not. He doesnt seem like he would be considering he made a fortune off of a children's learning company...
Nyquilisbad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, my engineering teacher's friend was on shark tank a while ago. He had a drone business and got a really good deal.
Mrs_Mojo_Rising ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:06:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
a family member of mine was one a relatively famous episode of the show. He felt extremely dissapointed in the editing of the show. He is an ivy league educated inventor with a quality product. And because he didn't like the deals being offered, he was edited to look like a total dunce. we are no longer supposed to talk about it at family gatherings.
Grizzly_Berry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A local food truck was on Shark Tank trying to get a restaurant. It's all real. This food truck is a local legend, well loved and delicious, and does great business. The sharks wanted to invest to the point that they would be in control of major decisions including branding (suggesting they changed the name/logo which is iconic in town).
The Lone Wolf (food truck) guys basically said "We do well enough at home, the only setback without you guys us it will take a little longer so you can fuck right off." A few months later their brick and mortar location opens, they jave a second truck operating, and they are absolutely killing it businesswise.
prove____it ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:02:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a friend, whose company was on Shark Tank and they took the deal with one of the sharks. They were portrayed well on the show and most everyone on the panel were impressed with their product, though only one wanted to invest. Afterward, they couldn't come to terms on the details of the deal and they parted ways. I got the impression that the shark was really all that committed to being involved.
jillyszabo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah we had a couple of Shark Tank people come into my class when I took entrepreneurship, one of them was the lady from Send a Ball and she said that she wasn't aware she needed a specific amount of capital to request so she made something up right before going in there. but both people confirmed it was real
SpurpleFilms ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a friend go on, and when I watched the segment I saw them get railed. Horribly. Like the most painfully insulting I've ever seen the sharks be (maybe felt it more cause I knew the girl). I won't name the product cause how bad I felt watching.
But my friend's overall experience was a positive one. They were hard on em, but there was also a lot of nicer and helpful, constructive stuff talked about. It was just edited to be a hard No. Even with the nasty stuff said, they got a huge bump in sales after the episode aired.
TangoZippo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:17:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I know a couple than appeared on Dragon's Den Canada (a Canadian version of Shark's Tank that preceded it and also featured Kevin O'Leary) and made a deal. It ended up falling apart during due diligence (there were some IP problems), but by all accounts everything was real and before shit fell apart, it reached a sophisticated level with lawyer and accountants reviewing the business.
They did say how most of the pitch got cut out, and the editing created more tension than really existed -- but that's just TV. Real enough for me.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On the UK one (Dragon's Den), they apparently use heat lamps above the contestant to make them sweat and get nervous. Other than that it's extremely edited.
bishopolis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My wife's friend was on the Shark Tank show about two years ago. He runs one of the first legal medicinal pot farms in Canada. He's doing very well and it's a license to print money, but he went onto the show to improve his expansion and get a backer because it's scary going alone and I think they asked him.
They seriously could not get past "so you grow pot?", and even in the edited portion that's all they were asking.
So, no deal. He's still printing money, even with the competition.
TheRealLavar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of my good friends is currently in contact with Shark Tank to sell his prototype, and yes, everything so far seems 100% legit.
Dank94 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i knew some guys who were on dragon's den (the canadian version) twice. The first time they sold an app that went viral after the show, and the second time they had a media company they sold just recently. seems legit
yoguy2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shark Tank? You mean Dragons Den!
BullDolphin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you trust someone calling themselves "Mr. Wonderful" you're gonna have a bad time.
thisishowiwrite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Friday Beers?
ChaseObserves ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It used to be that the show itself or the producers or whoever would get 10% of every company that appeared on the show no matter what, that was part of the deal for being on the show. Apparently, Cuban thought that was BS and now they don't do that anymore. I know people who were on the show while that policy was in effect and people who were just recently on after that policy was changed.
geoffnhb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've had 2 friends who were separately on the Canadian version called Dragons Den (where Mr. Wonderful started). One got a deal, the other didnt. The one who got the deal ended up stepping away from it after doing their due diligence and seeing the actual contract. The one who didnt get a deal is more successful than the one that did. But both say it was very real.
ky_ginger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:35:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of my employer's clients was on Shark Tank. Don't know what the filming/interview process was like vs. what aired as I didn't work on that client, but confirm that it's all real- they did get funded by Robert Herjavec and the company is very successful and growing.
bennitori ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know a guy who has a lot of friends that try to get onto Shark Tank. A lot of them try to do it without the intention of actually getting a deal. They just want the exposure from being on TV. Apparently the Shark Tank people run into that a lot and will turn you away on the spot if they think that's what you're doing.
CHARLIE_CANT_READ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really wish they would release bonus footage of entire pitches, even if they only did one or two every season it would be cool to see.
flmbstn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:29:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard that the opposite is true, based on information from a previous contestant. Only a fraction of deals that happen on screen come to fruition, and the sharks are hardly involved beyond providing money (no mentoring or ongoing support). The show pays companies to come on the "where are they now" episodes and claim the sharks have been crucial to their success. Its true the sessions are longer (1-2 hours) and the "deal" isn't scripted, but make no mistake the show is made for TV and what happens in episodes isn't what happens in real life.
Beewhitexo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:34:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm from the UK so could someone tell me what happens on shark tank? It sounds amazing!
Xenuear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:00:29 on September 28, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your comment was hijacked http://www.suggest.com/tv/1530581/the-truth-behind-reality-shows/?_fc=1530581&utm_campaign=sug-fbk-d-us-37495f99&utm_source=fbk&_fcs#page=11
ogcoliebear ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:00:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I worked on Shark Tank, and here's the scoop: On the show, they give a certain deal, but in real life, it is usually much less, but still an actual deal.
Ex: I'll give you 50,000 dollars for 10% of your company
Actual: They give them $3,000 for 2%
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:20:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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CrasyMike ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:05:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which show host...what...no way
ogcoliebear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:23:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, I worked on the American one so I missed that! lol
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:25:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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TRiG_Ireland ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:13:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
UK: Dragon's Den.
Ireland: Dragon's Den.
Canada: Dragon's Den.
USA: Shark Tank.
Why?
dendawg ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:54:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because fuck you, that's why!
TangoZippo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because Mark Burnett didn't like the name.
Actually, the original (to whom all the other shows pay a licensing fee) was the Japanese show "ใใใผใฎ่" aka Money Tigers
TRiG_Ireland ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:07:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Y'know, Money Tigers is a better name.
TangoZippo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently it's also a pun in Japanese and is a synonym for Malayan tiger (the large orange and black subspecies)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:35:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because shark week is popular as hell in the states, and dragons are popular as hell in European lore
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This needs footage.
PM_Me_Rude_Haiku ยท 5436 points ยท Posted at 15:49:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a friend on Cash In The Attic in the UK. The idea is that some antique dealers and so on will scout around in your attic/garage/shed and "find" valuable items to sell.
They found precisely fuck all in my friend's house, so they pulled some paintings and a vase out of the van, "found" them, then asked him to go and get changed so they could film a segment from "after the sale".
It all seems like a complete waste of time, aside from the couple of hundred quid they gave him.
ImagineThe ยท 1297 points ยท Posted at 16:25:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always wondered what would happen if nothing was found. And how people always seemed to have something good.
CursedCatLady ยท 1470 points ยท Posted at 16:58:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I assumed that if someone had nothing worthwhile they wouldn't air the show. Makes sense financially that they would fake it though.
RadicalDog ยท 210 points ยท Posted at 17:35:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If the cost of being known to be faking stuff is less than the cost of scouting to see if there's good stuff before sending a film crew... That's capitalism!
[deleted] ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 22:13:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, it's purpose is entertainment, not actual discovery of artifacts.
No one's watching archeologists brush dirt all day.
Hardtopickaname ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:28:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Coming next summer...
"What is it?"
"I don't know. It's covered in dirt!"
Indy is back! And this time, no one is quite sure what he's uncovering.
"I need another brush!"
"We don't have any left!"
Harrison Ford in...
"Duh da da daaaa, duh da da!"
Indiana Jones and the Monotonous Brushing of a Possible Artifact
sgt_petsounds ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:56:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Team
jbr_r18 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:48:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about archeological site supervisors?
Timmytanks40 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:32:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
America's third fastest growing demographic.
kjata ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:02:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From one to two yesterday! That's doubled in twenty-four hours!
segagaga ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:32:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno, the BBC's Time Team was pretty entertaining.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:23:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, not in real time, but there is some amount of audience for proper documentaries on archeology.
Pumpernickelfritz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would
stankovic32 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:18:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you are in the minority
jrobinson3k1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
which is as american as he can be
stankovic32 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 00:34:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
haha DAE americans are so stupid!!
I_am_not_Doug ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:00:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If X is less than the cost of a recall.. we don't do one
namtab00 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:21:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't seen a reference like that since kindergarten
RadicalDog ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If X is less than the cost of lawsuits from injured customers... ehhh it's fine
bird_equals_word ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 22:29:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah we should introduce Soviet communist socialism because an antique show is staged.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:47:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I truly hope American Pickers in legit. I know Pawn Stars is fake asf
Kanuhduh ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:18:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The most fake thing I've heard about American Pickers is that Danny only joined when the show was pitched. They obviously have some fake storylines in the show "The boys won't let me turn on the A/C", etc. But I believe that a lot of what they do is moderately legit.
Sureshadow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:25:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I live near their Iowa store, and they actually have stuff from the show there.
NocturnoOcculto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Those dudes plant shit all the time. The fat dude is supposed to be a total prick.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Noooo
KidCasey ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:22:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now I want to see an episode where they come in and tell people they only own useless shit then just leave.
piexil ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:21:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
American pickers has had some segments were they didn't find anything I thought
JackHarrison1010 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:45:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I assumed they avoided the problem entirely by asking people to apply to be on the show only if they know they have something of value in their attic.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:11:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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metans ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:54:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god it's grandpa
Magookas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wouldnt surprise me if there was a market for that shit!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:52:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I assumed whatever house they go to actually has to list off some of their inventory when applying to be on the show.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:26:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
JerryLupus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:35:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And if there's a chance the person won't have shit and you'll have to fake it, it makes sense to fake it every time.
FallenAngelII ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:51:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I assume that if they have enough duds with no gems in sight, they call it a day and film a faked segment. I mean, if 90% of your footage is unairable, then you're not gonna have enough of it to fill a show.
Roastmonkeybrains ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:20:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or have a scout to see if they do before wasting tax payers money on tripe.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 21:35:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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MAKE_ME_REDDIT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:57:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you have a stroke?
poochyenarulez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:50:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you ask them to come by your place, they will ask you to take countless pictures so they will already know everything you have, but then act surprised when they see things.
vezokpiraka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's how it's done in Storage Wars too. Sometimes they find interesting stuff, but other times they just pull bullshit things that look cool to make the episode worthwile.
ImagineThe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Weirdly I knew that about storage wars, just didn't occur to me to happen on BBC daytime.
valiantfreak ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I knew that show was staged when they aired that episode where they 'find' a vintage dodgem/bumper car that had been converted to run on batteries. They pull the cover off, and hey presto; it turns on and they can drive it! Aside from the fact that if you have spent thousands of dollars and a shitload of time restoring something like that you would invest a few minutes to pull the battery out after you put it in long-term storage, everyone knows that if you leave your car sitting for a while the battery will be no good after a couple of months. I still watch such shows, but only in conjunction with the skepticism they deserve
vezokpiraka ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:35:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Of course. For example the episode where they find paintings worth one million dollars is clearly not staged,but the ones where they find random bullshit like two diamond rings in a box with only old cheap clothes.
TranClan67 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of an episode of Storage Wars where they happened to find a binder of Magic: The Gathering cards and in it was a bunch of relatively new cards that were mostly junk(price wise) but sitting on top of it, between the pages of the binder was a black lotus. Card worth hundreds/thousands.
Bunnyhat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's the same thing with those Storage Unit auction shows where they pull that one neat item out to go get in appraised. 99% chance that item was planted.
falco_iii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:01:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently this happens in storage wars - the producer is left alone with the locker that one of the cast bid on and won, and surprise surprise, something odd is found that needs to be looked at further and is worth a pretty penny. Faking is one thing, but helping the cast by juicing their lockers is dishonest to the regular bidders.
luke_in_the_sky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In American Pickers sometimes they don't find anything. Not the entire episode because they go to like 3 or 4 properties per episode, but happens they go somewhere that is full of trash or sometimes they visit someone that don't want to sell anything.
Oxideist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:45:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heard they would plant things in the show "storage wars" as well.
JulioCesarSalad ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just figured those episodes weren't aired.
[deleted] ยท 728 points ยท Posted at 16:55:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn. Are you saying I can't even trust Cash In The Attic? That is perfect hangover TV.
nowhidden ยท 376 points ยท Posted at 17:17:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds like the most comforting genre of T.V. ever.
[deleted] ยท 908 points ยท Posted at 17:28:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Cash In The Attic, Bargain Hunt, Antiques Roadshow. Perfect for when you're hungover and just want to switch your brain off and mong out in front of the telly.
My favourite was the short-lived BBC series Trust Me, I'm A Dealer where some twat in a tweed suit would take people's antiques and then swap them for more and more expensive antiques and try to make a profit.
It was hilarious because the presenter would lose their money 90% of the time and just shrug it off by going, "Well, that's always the chance you take with antiques".
Then he would casually drive off down the road in his Aston Martin while this poor elderly couple try to put on a brave face as they say goodbye to that holiday home in the Peak District they've always wanted.
Fragrantbumfluff ยท 248 points ยท Posted at 19:03:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Come dine with me marathons on a Sunday! While you ring for takeaway and painkillers
candyandkittykisses ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 19:22:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Four in a bed was the perfect tune in to tune out show for me. Bring it back!
directhex ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:45:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They show about 8 hours of it a day on E4
Hykage ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:10:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They have, mostly. It's now three in a bed and is an hour long, new series is on now
lachalupacabrita ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:58:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Come Dine With Me + Hotel Inspector = (-hangover)
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:36:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you see that this weekend? Off. The. Hook. That guy who found a 500 year old coin with a metal detector. After 20 minutes. After borrowing it from his brother who hadn't found anything in months. Heh.
Hodorallday ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:14:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I saw that! I bet his brother loathed him in that moment as only a brother can.
Sunday's are the best: countryfile then antiques roadshow.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
:D I love AR. Did you ever see the original finding of the 'Keep Calm and Carry On' posters? That was cool.
And I do love Spring/Autumnwatch. Michaela Strachan is awesome, but the dude is weird and is in no way David Attenborough as much as he tries.
Jacobtait ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:18:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gbbo repeats on Sunday as well. No chance I would have watched it otherwise but it got me hooked.
cujo8400 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
CDWM is one of my favourites to watch. Both the one from the UK and the Canadian one.
pravicordius ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 20:56:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey! That's not just any twat in a tweed suit, that's Paul fucking Martin of Flog It! fame.
Without a doubt, the man is one of the smuggest cunts on television and one of the most reviled presenters on the rogues gallery that is BBC daytime.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:02:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I knew I recognised him from somewhere. I just couldn't think of the programme :)
Nixie9 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 20:52:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I worked on one of those shows, even the filming is bloody lovely, making cups of tea for old ladies while they show you their stamp collection or their grannys paintings, I left feeling like a had 50 new nannas.
sergei_gurlukovich ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:26:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My lot are partial to Come Dine With Me after a night out. we call it 'come down with me'.
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 20:41:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sunday Mornings for me: Frasier double bill, Sunday Brunch, then flick over to BBC One for Bargain Hunt.
One Sunday I was so hungover I accidentally put on S4C and it was 20 minutes before I realised everyone was speaking Welsh.
Ben_zyl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:00:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
With just enough English language loan words in it that you think you're either wasted or 90% still asleep and don't catch on for a while.
evilbatduck ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:35:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, this is what Sunday mornings are for. I like it when they show Amazing Spaces or something similar after Sunday Brunch.
Tee_zee ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:41:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha fuck I remember that, especially the part where they drive off in their posh car .
Swindel92 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:59:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know a guy who was on Bargain Hunt with his partner. It was apparently very legit. I guess the concept of the show makes it easy to do for real though.
They actually won! Think they came in at a few hundred quid profit. He maintains that they were probably the only people who won bargain hunt to immediately spend the winnings on drugs and partying!
Quaaraaq ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:28:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Antiques Roadshow is 100% legit though, I went to one when they came by my area a while back, its exactly like you see on tv. They only turn the cameras on for more valuable items though, usually when the appraiser has to get up and do a bit of research or ask around with the other experts.
WhitePineBurning ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:27:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went to one here about five years ago when it came to town. Huge lines of folks with weirdass shit, but everyone had a good time! Met the toy expert, the host guy, and the guy with the long hair who always wore double-breasted suits. Turned out that the stuff I brought along was worth more than I imagined. I had fun.
m00fire ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:14:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
60 Minute Makeover as well.
Nothing like seeing the front room of a chav couple and their 12 kids get decorated in zebra stripes then seeing the carnage when the kids cry, the husband kicks off and the wife tries to pretend she likes it. Fucking quality telly.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:21:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, and they make everything out of MDF and crap flimsy plastic which is only going to break and fall apart a week later.
manawesome326 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:52:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They decorate the kids in zebra stripesโฝ
vulgarknight ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:19:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mong out in front of the Telly is the most British thing I've heard all Independence Day.
AmyElite ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:55:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bargain Hunt is safe! My mother was on it with her best mate, she won the golden gavel and everything! Not rigged and she left feeling very chuffed with herself.
TheCelloIsAlive ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:51:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't really have anything to contribute, I just wanted to thank you for teaching me the phrase "mong out". Never heard that one before, and I love it.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:22:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The word 'mong' has another, very offensive, meaning so be careful when using it.
TheCelloIsAlive ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:41:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm learning all kinds of new things today.
ilyemco ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:18:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Please don't use the word mong, it's a derogatory term for people with mental disorders (especially downs syndrome).
TheCelloIsAlive ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:41:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. Thank you sincerely for saving my future ass.
AbusiveBadger ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 23:49:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well then just don't call an actual mong a mong and you're set.
truenoise ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:56:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty sure if you said you were going to tard out in front of the tv it would be offensive, so not buying your logic.
AbusiveBadger ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:13:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know about you but when I watch TV like that I usually just turn off my brain and barely register what's going on. Seems like tarding out is just the right word for it
derprondo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:29:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Checkout American Pickers as well, it sounds like cash in the attic is the same thing.
nitroxious ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:43:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
american pickers is basically the same as salvage hunters, but im pretty sure those are actually legit and not reality bs
Professor_Hoover ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pickers sounds legit but when you see the prices they get on some of the stuff you'd hate to be the original owner.
Indie_uk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
60 minute makeover, home in the sun...
danzey12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Those shows always gave me a headache, I don't actually know why.
TypicalCricket ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I prefer shows like This Old House
Djflish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can't forget Homes Under the Hammer.
SophieOfTarth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bargain Hunt is always on in the student common room around lunchtime. It's become something of a ritual. You'll be half way through a sandwich or a game of cards when someone with a view of the tv will suddenly cry out: "It's on!"
At this point every head turns to the same point on the wall as the opening credits roll. When the presenter is introduced there's either a loud cheer, and chants of "Tim! Tim!" or disappointed groans, if it's one of the other ones.
After this, everyone goes back to what they were doing before, although occasionally someone will glance up and wonder aloud: "what the fuck were they thinking? that'll never sell!"
B4rberblacksheep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah you're definitely British.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wut is dis word "mong"
SleepyDude_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:01:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Antiquities roadshow is real. But they analyze a lot more people than they show in the program.
How2999 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Woah you can't out antique roadshow in the same category. It's Primetime!. I would be shocked if it was faked like the others.
hungry4pie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Yes, it's an 8-ball. No we don't need to get the scales -- trust me, I'm a dealer."
fort_wendy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I might start using that
lordperiwinkle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:33:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Antiques Roadshow broke my heart a number of years back. My sister in law's father had been a geology professor who taught in universities all over the place. She spent her childhood in Saudi Arabia, Nicaragua, Yemen, turkey, you name it, he taught there. He and his wife were ardent history buffs, and amassed quite a collection over the years. Most of the stuff was bought at bazaars and road side stands, which they would have evaluated and most ended up being donated to museums. Except for one thing: It is a stele, about 4' high, four sided, made from limestone. It has cuneiform writing on all sides, along with some pictographs. They have had it looked at a couple of times. The consensus is it is very, very old, and is rules/laws written from a Goddess worshiping society. My brother and his wife own it now.
So, Antiques Roadshow was coming to town and one of the advertised experts was someone with knowledge of ancient Middle Eastern artifacts. So we hauled that stone in. It is very, very heavy. The guy looked at it. "Amazing" he said, "never saw anything this old, or this rare, or this wonderful!!" he said. "Awesome story!" he said. "Absolutely Priceless!" he said. Then he said: "Too bad I can't have this shown on the Roadshow. I have a plane to catch, and don't have time to film you". And he left. So, poop on the Antiques Roadshow.
KingMong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hi its me, your King
BungleBungleBungle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I stopped watching Bargain Hunt when David Dickinson left.
bplboston17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:52:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lol sorry i swapped your one of a kind painting for a pottery pot made by a 6 year old in elementary school art class..
bubblegumpandabear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:01:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I got all of my wisdom teeth removed and promptly watched Antiques Roadshow all day long. I was completely out of it- gauze stuffed in my mouth like a chipmunk. I know at one point my dad told me I needed to eat something if I wanted to feel less sick, so I ate vanilla pudding. I said, "Wow, I do feel better!" and promptly threw up into the bucket next to me and passed out. That show is amazing entertainment when you're out of it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:14:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do shift work. When I am on nights, I set my alarm to watch Bargain Hunt and have my breakfast at the same time. There is something quite reassuring about Tim Wonnacott and the old ladies in their red and blue fleeces.
cyberkitten ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:53:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Upvote for 'mong out'. It's a natural part of my vocabulary
NoWhammies10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:02:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bargain Hunt is Cockney rhyming slang for the guy who hosts it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:10:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I call him David Dickinson Lite.
Octopiece ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:44:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Heartbreakingly Hilarious.
google_academic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That same show in the US would be a shady guy from the hood called Treyvon/Sharrif/Dweezil....
DerpSherpa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:29 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My ass bent over was shown on the Tampa, FL episode of Antiques Roadshow, if that counts.
april9th ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:50:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't find anything comforting about children going to their parent's house and going 'these are your dad's old war medals, aren't they mum? Expert, what do you think they're worth?' on the basis they want a holiday in Norfolk, or Timothy wants guitar lessons.
jarheart ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:09:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you've never seen it, you have to give it a go. Also, check out Grand Designs and Escape to the Country. Trust me.
bigheyzeus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For me it's Simpsons and South Park marathons when hungover.
Dicentrina ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:48:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Veneer!
Drink-my-koolaid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:42:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I forgot about this! Drinking games are fun :)
pedro1191 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:58:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Found the student.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:59:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know if I can trust anything you say after this lol
OmarLittlest_Petshop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You now have no choice but to stay drunk.
Gamerguywon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:31:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is American Pickers legit though? What about Flea Market Flip?
rollergirl1985 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:44:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Next we'll find out that Homes under the Hammer is also a sham :(
pedro1191 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:58:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Found the student.
violentsky ยท 408 points ยท Posted at 18:12:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My father is a dealer in a particular variety of memorabilia, and also fairly well known as an authenticator of said memorabilia. He was on a show featuring storage units a few years ago. The show crew peppered a storage unit with some of my father's own collectibles, the hosts "found" them, then brought them back to my father to be appraised. He then offered to purchase his own items back from the hosts.
[deleted] ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 22:44:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your vague description of the memorabilia makes me believe it's probably Nazi swag.
violentsky ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 23:59:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So close...only two letters off. It's NASA rather than Nazi though.
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 00:12:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...One could argue it's the same thing, Wernher. :p
occupythekitchen ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:52:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He had to get supplies to the moon nazis somehow
brickmaster32000 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:57:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are people embarrassed to talk about Nazi swag? I was assuming he dealt in antique dildos or something.
ChefBoyAreWeFucked ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:59:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did he get a good price?
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 23:11:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My uncle owns a chain of mini storage places. That show made the whole industry miserable and the people who came up with it need to die in a fire.
Gathorall ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:17:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What adverse effects has it had on the business?
[deleted] ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 23:43:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To auction a unit in Alabama takes about three months. First they have to get a month behind, then a month grace, finally documented collection efforts and legal notices in the newspaper. After that you can auction the unit. For my uncles company the auction was something like the first Tuesday of the month.
Before the show he had about 12 people who came every month and knew the drill. Buy the unit that day, pay cash, and have the unit empty by close of business. What they paid for it really didn't matter. Just have it ready to rent by close of business that day.
After that show came out tons of people would show up thinking they would get rich. So they would drive the prices up some. But alot of them would bid, and then not have the cash on hand. Got to reauction those next month. A lot of them would win, pay, and then when they didn't find a sack of cash or a chest full of gold coins, would just abandon the junk. Meaning the company had to go through the whole auction process again.
CREAMY-JUICE-HOLE ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:09:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That seems like a good thing. They can get paid twice or more for the same locker.
Boofus101 ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 00:16:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The point isn't to get paid for the abandoned property, the point is to get the shit out of there so that they can start renting the unit to a new customer ASAP.
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 00:20:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The average customer for a mini warehouse circa 2002 spent $700 over the life of a rental. These auctions would go for $200-$300 a unit before expenses of trying to collect, document, and advertise the sale. So you are indeed getting paid twice, but over that time you are unable to rent that unit so you miss out on a potential rental that is much more valuable.
Keep in mind that $700 is the average. You would be amazed how many people rent a mini warehouse for 20-30 years because they are running a business out of it or using it to store records. When a unit is tied up and the facility is near full, you risk missing out on one of those clients which means thousands.
The auction process almost never makes up even the back rent owed by the delinquent tenant.
bplboston17 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:55:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wtf if someone bids more than they have on hand they should have like 1 hour to get the money to you or be banned from ever coming back and have to pay 100$ fee for having to reauction it.
ProbablyNotARealAcc ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:06:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seems like if the person didn't have the cash on hand, it should be offered to the second highest bidder, and so on down the line. The second and third may not have the cash either, if they bid more on later units, but that would at least be more likely to get rid of the units that day.
DynamoAC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:18:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like I've read this before on here, the last bit where more people would come and not clear their storage.
backwardsups ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:41:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
how have these shows damaged the storage industry?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:47:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I knew I should have typed it in the original. Because somebody was going to ask me.
Here is where I replied to somebody else with the same question.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/4r7elb/people_who_have_been_on_reality_tv_shows_whats/d4zduvr
IthinkitsaDanny ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:29:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and then other collectors would contact your father to get his memorabilia?
Simmery ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:06:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So... how did your dad feel about doing this? I mean, it is dishonest. Maybe it's not doing anyone real harm, but it's still a lie.
DextrosKnight ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 23:21:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not much of what you see on TV is true, man. Except for Barney. He's actually the last living dinosaur and he just happens to get along great with kids.
Simmery ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:28:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I realize that. I am just surprised that so many people are willing to lie at the drop of a hat. I guess I'd like to think better of people.
k9centipede ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:57:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The point of those shows isn't to try and tell an authentic story. It's to share facts about a variety of objects. The method of 'discovering' is just for flavor. The honest alternative is to just wander around a junk shop or museum and list off facts of items. Instead they present the historic information wrapped up in a fun narative of whatever one is being used.
Simmery ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:04:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, something like Antiques Roadshow, which is a program I really enjoy and (reportedly) completely authentic. These shows aren't interested in presenting fun factoids of history or educating anyone; let's be real here. This is about ratings. And drama gets you ratings.
DextrosKnight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean it's not really lying, it's acting. It's no different than Neil Patrick Harris playing Barney on How I Met Your Mother. He's gay in real life, but he plays a womanizer on the show. It's a role he's playing, and it's the same thing with the guy on the reality show.
I swear I didn't intend to make references to two different Barneys, that was just the first thing I thought of in both cases, for some reason.
Simmery ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:50:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When it's presented as "reality", then acting is lying. I'm sure you can find the fine print somewhere that states that the show makes shit up, but most viewers don't realize that and these shows don't present it that way. That still counts as a lie in my book. We're not talking about an episode of Star Trek here. People know Captain Kirk isn't actually flying through space.
thegreatsynan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But the general viewers aren't interested in picking up show that's a story about some people that buy storage units or try to get along in a house. People watch it because they think it's real and like to think that they could be in that position.
cailihphiliac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What happened to Baby Bop, and the other two?
DextrosKnight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The children revolted and Baby Bop didn't have the wherewithal to defend herself. The children built a throne from her bones.
cailihphiliac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:49:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And the other two? The yellow and orange ones?
fuzzywuzzyisabear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:30:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Barney is evil.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:28:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except he eats them once in a while
BadAdviceBot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:40:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing a few minutes in the editing room won't fix.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's just one small one. Very occasionally.
violentsky ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:02:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mostly, I think was just excited that someone was offering to put him on tv. He didn't really wrestle too much with the moral implications of stacking a storage unit. Plus it got a bit of recognition for his business, so perhaps there was some selfish motivation as well.
Anti-AliasingAlias ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I take it he's collected that memorbilia over a very long career? Does that memorbilia also make him a nightmare for people like me?
pease_pudding ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depends. Are you Jewish?
Anti-AliasingAlias ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, Eastern European with a knack for kidnapping the wrong guy's daughter.
Adoptathon ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 20:31:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
oh oh! I was on that show too! we didn't have that, some of our stuff was somewhat valuable so we went to auction. however they'd set up the premise that me and the family were on the show so they could convert the attic into a bedroom for me. well after the house filming and before the auction we discovered the attic could not legally be converted, old house, not 100% structually sound, but they filmed the 'builders' coming in to start work on the conversion anyway.
rubberbuggy ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 21:50:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry to say that this is just untrue. I worked on Cash in the Attic for three years. The process is this...people apply, lots of people. They describe what they have. If it sounds useful, a member of the production team goes to their house to check what they have. If they have fuck all, they go into the discard pile. If not, then they might make the subject of a show if they have an interesting story.
Despite the fact that working on a UK show you are very specifically not allowed to fake things, and the procedures to prevent this are even more stringent when making a BBC show (no such rules apply in the US), no way on earth would the team ever turn up to a house cold. Everything is researched before the expense of sending a camera to crew to a house is incurred, and the potential fall out of faking a show - the BBC cancels a lucrative contract and refuses to use the production company henceforth - is just not worth it. It's far easier, and less financially risky to make shows like Cash in the Attic without cheating.
MarcelRED147 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:19:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Would what /u/Adoptathon said here about faking builders coming to do the attic conversion with the money from the show count under those rules?
FenixWahey ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:30:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Did you know you had Van Gogh's 'Sunflowers' in your loft hiding behind those Wombles posters from 1977? What a find!"
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:06:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I work in the Antiques Business, 99% of Bargain Hunt or antiques roadshow is bullshit, prices and all that. Great to learn the history of items and usage in previous eras.
gruffi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:49:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This was the better version
Points_out_shit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:24:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your friends are worthless
Aint got shit in their attic
Your friends learn from you
winch25 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:07:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cash in the Van. The prequel where a couple of dodgy geezers drive round in a van and hide shit in people's attics without being caught. 'What the fuck are you doing in my house?' Trying to hide this painting of some flowers we found in a skip'
Creature_73L ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like a rip off of American Pickers, but I bet it had to be attics because of a lack of sprawling acreage in the UK. I doubt you find too many people in the UK with huge plots of land they own with items strewn about and random barns full of stuff.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:58:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cash In The Attic is probably older than your country m8
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:40:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Errm you mean American Pickers was a rip off of cash in the attic. The first time American Pickers aired was in 2010 while cash in the attic has been around for years before that. Easy way to remember this is its always usually American shows stealing or remaking British shows, not the other way round
payperplain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
With the exception of Top Gear during the only years that count most stolen shows get made better.
TurboChewy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:30:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hope this isn't true for pickers, it was actually interesting to watch every once in a while, and I always thought the encounters were genuine.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:50:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They were genuinely attempting to rip off the people they bought from, that's for sure.
valiantfreak ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:16:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I thought until I saw 'Pawn Stars'. I feel so much better knowing PS is faked because the thought of people desperate for cash getting screwed over so hard makes me lose faith in mankind.
American Pickers finds small antique National Cash Register at some sort of theatre camp: "It's not one of those big elaborate ones but people still collect them, we'll give you [half of what we can sell it for]"
Someone brings a big antique National Cash Register to Pawn Stars: "Nobody wants the big elaborate ones, they are too heavy and take up too much space. You don't want to have to carry it back to your car do you? Here, have some magic beans"
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At least on pawn stars... you go into a pawn shop, you know what you're getting into. You know the pawn shop buys low and sells high. It's a legit negotiation (or would be if the show was actually real.)
American Pickers just seems like they're robbing ignorant people.
valiantfreak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:49:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
True, but I find AP gives them more money than PS for similar items and are relatively open about how much they can sell an item for. "How much for this thingo?"
"$50"
"$50?! How about $35?"
"Nah"
"Damn" *aside to camera "I really like the thingo, but at $50, the margin was just not there for us. Hopefully Billy-Bob's prices on his other things are lower or this pick could be a bust"
Pawn Stars (ignoring the fake/real debate) talks the item down and uses tricks: "How much would you like for it?"
"$100"
*sneer/incredulous look "How did you come up with that number?!"
"I have seen similar ones on the internet going for $100"
"Yeah, but were they actually selling?"
"I don't know"
"The best I can do is $20"
"Really? If that's all it's worth I'll just take it back home"
"You don't want to have to take it back home. Think of why you wanted to sell it in the first place. What is the least you will take?"
"I can't let it go for less than $75"
"So you wont take $25?"
"No"
"What about $30?"
"I don't think I could do it for that. My grandfather had it for all these years"
"Think of what you need the money for. Didn't you say you wanted to buy your daughter dancing shoes? You could buy a nice set of dancing shoes for $30"
"Yeah, I suppose"
"Look, the best I can do is $35"
"You can't go to $40?"
"Not a penny more" *co-worker appears: "It's a fair price, you should take it" *both start nodding their heads vigorously
"Yeah, ok" *handshake
Pawn dealer, aside to camera "I can't believe I got this thingo for just $35. These are so hot right now and I have NEVER seen a blue one before, especially in this condition. I will have no trouble selling this to the next thingo fan who comes into the store"
IMHO in order if rip-off-ness I would say Hardcore Pawn, Pawn Stars, American Pickers
DrBoomkin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:49:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Considering the age of many buildings in the UK, it's more likely people would have older and more valuable stuff in their attic/basement, than what Americans might have strewn over their land.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
at least they looked first
Li0nhead ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:58:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That will be to see if there is anything of value and then the experts go back after the show tell them 'That original Picasso you have sat in your attic, it is only worth ยฃ3, I will give you ยฃ4 for it as you were such a good person to work with on the show....'
TexanInExile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well it's still a could hundred quid
tregregins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why would he go on the show if there wasnt anything they would find?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Seems similar to that Storage Wars show. Someone always manages to find something worth a lot in a pile of junk.
EDIT: changed one word.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was fake as shit.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Escaped criminals with large bounties on their heads?
RedBlimp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's all they give him for the painting and vase? Sounds like he's bad at negotiating.
BizMoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its for the old boys and girls mainly I'd say.......cup of tea, bit of cake (a Viennese whirl perhaps?), some antiques......our Mavis has had a lovely day!
jarheart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting, still...I love Cash in the Attic.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's why most people in the industry now refer to it as "unscripted television" as opposed to "reality"
VladimirPootietang ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aside from the couple of hundred quid they gave him.
That's why people go on.
username_offline ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is the model for all pawn and storage shows, I know because I produce some of those
Wizard4877 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You spelled 'squid' wrong
backwardsups ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this just ruined american pickers for me
ElQuackers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always wondered this because there's always something amazing, yet the house is shit normally with a really fucking expensive cutlery set or some shit. Still, awesome show
cloistered_around ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There was this arizona house buyer/seller show that had me hooked for a bit... until I realized the people were just a bit too over the top. The houses were so conveniently goldmines or complete duds... and then they started to find stuff in them that no way would they consistently find in houses.
Pools tables? Stuffed raccoon? Vintage hair dryer? Yeah, I would buy maybe one of those but you're starting to find them in otherwise completely empty houses. They felt planted, and that got me thinking that the houses were also probably just filmed for the segments and never actually bought or sold.
By god. It's easier and less expensive to fake a show than it is to actually do it.
AndMeEllen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The antiques roadshow version of faking an orgasm, ladies and gentlemen.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:57:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Muahaha that answers a lot of questions I have. I always thought that show was shifty. Especially that shifty bastard Jonty.
I'll still watch it though.
KingoftheGinge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hope bargain hunt is a load of shit too. I hate that orange twat.
Shnazercise ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Their goal is to create drama. "Reality" is just the stuff they dip the paintbrush into. They use it to paint whatever the hell they want. Why? Because the goal is to create a show that people will watch, so it needs drama. If anyone here ever goes on a reality show and is surprised that they changed your story to create suspense or faked the ending to save time or emphasized the scummy part that you thought was irrelevant, then you are indeed unwise to the ways of the world.
zainab143143 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes dear So true but I Have
NativityCrimeScene ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There was a show on Discovery Channel in the US last year called "Lost And Found With Mike & Jesse" where these two guys would track down long lost antiques that had sentimental value to people.
In the very first episode of the show, a World War 2 veteran and his family asked them to find a Japanese flag that he had signed 70 years ago with dozens of other veterans while serving overseas. Mike & Jesse found it and brought it to them. (trailer video)
The truth is that a lady in Pennsylvania found the flag in a box of old rags a couple years ago and started tracking down all the names on it. One of the names was my grandfather and he is actually the only one who remembers signing it. He just isn't in as good of physical health as the guy they had in the TV show.
The flag has gotten a lot of media attention and Discovery Channel interviewed the lady who found it saying that they wanted to do a special story on the flag. She thought that it would be some kind of documentary. They didn't tell her until later that it would be a fake reality show. Here's a news story about the true story.
Raineydaze4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I work in the antiques business and all these shows make me so angry.
Summamabitch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that couple hundred equaled tens of thousands of viewers. Worth it to create trash for trash to watch.
KingBooScaresYou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:57:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought this was the case - either that or all my shit is fucking worthless and my dead relatives shafted me in terms of furniture.
HadHerses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was doing a boot sale with my mate, we were getting rid of stuff from Uni and his live in landlord (older guy) gave us some stuff to sell as well on his behalf, and lo and behold they were filming insert day time antiques auction house show name here and one of the producers spotted this ugly bronze statue from his landlord and then the expert for one of the teams came over and had a look and then with my mate they agreed a price, then set up this whole scenario about bartering, backstory about how my mate came to acquire it, why he's selling it, and he had to be tough with the negotiations etc etc.
It still repeated on one of the Sky channels, my mate does all the hard work and i'm just there drinking a cup of tea.
angelberries ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always knew that shit was faked!!! It was always 'we want ยฃ500/1000 to go to Australia to see our grandchildren or whatever..... then they have a house 'full' of antiques. If you can afford to have things of value like that lying around, I think you could afford the damn plane tickets.
BloodAngel85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a similar show in the US called American Pickers
bplboston17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lol go change your clothes and we will film a segment from "after the sale." I only own one pair of clothes sir.
OGNips ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wish I got payed in squid
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:01:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's ruined it for me
SneakyBadAss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:38:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is the most British sentence i've ever seen :D
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:41:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's the rudest haiku you've been PM'd?
rainy-haze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:48:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to love Cash in the Attic and felt safe trusting Brits to give me more realistic shows. Now I feel betrayed.
inthesandtrap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:10:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How much is one quid? A pound?
Kingmonkeyman101 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:41:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep
PMyouMooningME ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How much is a quid in American dollars? I thought it was 20 dollars.
ButterflyAttack ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:52:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not these days mate!
PMyouMooningME ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:59:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So is a quid A euro?
ButterflyAttack ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:09:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, it's one pound.
PMyouMooningME ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:30:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks!
FAX_ME_UR_GENITALIA ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:25:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Write me a haiku, In a fashion that is rude". That's it and fuck you.
Eddie_Hitler ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:50:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That show is nicknamed "Crap In The Attic" for a reason.
Haighstrom ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:34:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love that they bother to look at all, just in case. If they're willing to scam the viewership why not just scam the whole thing and bung the fake crap in straight away?
drawnbytracy ยท 1841 points ยท Posted at 16:01:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on a show geared towards pre-teens and teenagers that tried to imitate fear factor on YTV. They had us compete in various unique athletic competitions and other things. Most of it was surprisingly real! We actually did compete. Our scores were based on our performance in the task. The one thing that wasn't "real" was that the episode made it look like everything happened in a day, when in reality, it took about five days to film.
Overall, it was a really cool experience that I wouldn't trade for the world.
josh_the_misanthrope ยท 372 points ยท Posted at 17:47:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Please tell me it was Uh Oh! with Wink Yahoo.
A_Dallas_Welcome ยท 862 points ยท Posted at 19:35:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on Uh-Oh! as a kid. I can confirm several things for you:
It was not scripted, just 22 minutes of running around doing the things. They ran a tight ship, and did several episodes one after another. The winners were not pre-determined and we actually got the prizes in order of our success.
The editing didn't do that much, there was an error in the first third in one of the episodes previous to mine (where I was in the audience) where I think someone yelled one of the answers, and they just started the whole episode over.
Wink Yahoo is super tall in person, and the Announcer is really nice. The Punisher does not talk, but does give high fives.
ThePrivacyPolicy ยท 83 points ยท Posted at 21:18:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was an audience member on Uh Oh as a kid! Still have the blue team shirt kicking around somewhere! I definitely remember it being mostly off the floor as you say. In the two episodes shot while I was there, there was very little that they had to go back and re-film to "touch up" after! Tons of prizes for the audience in the waiting room too, gotta do something to keep a room full of excited kids under control! Lots of bop-its were given away haha
House923 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 20:34:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I loved Uh Oh as a kid and love hearing that it was legitimate. Also the punisher freaked me out.
Shloppins ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:13:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can still hear that deep voice going "Uhhhh Ohh" right now haha
Danger_ist ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:23:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't thought of that in years
jaws-theme ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 21:41:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This! ^ I was on Uh-Oh as an audience member when they did the offsite stuff for the Slime Tour. If I remember right, they'd go to your school and audition to get a few kids to do the challenges, and the in-studio kids would bet on who they thought would win, and then they'd roll the tape of the Slime Tour bit for that episode. We stood outside in the rain for hours, and they shot two different bits - a disco themed obstacle course and another with an under the sea theme. Shaun Majumder was the cast member standing right in front of our group, and the whole time he was just up to eleven. He tried so hard to keep us entertained and energized all afternoon. NOT an easy job. We were freezing and wet. It was pretty miserable. But getting to see some of the production of a tv show was pretty exciting for a small town Canadian kid. And those six kids who got to play... man, those challenges were pretty tough. But at least they gave all of us Hubba Bubba (bubblegum) afterward. That made up for everything.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was so upset because I always asked so go visit my aunty whenever they were in Drumheller, but it never worked out :(
tylerislegend ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:17:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As an American who has never even heard of this show.... What the hell is up with those names?
A_Dallas_Welcome ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 21:45:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Punisher punished players by pouring slime on one contestant if their partner got the special question wrong. The 'Uh-oh!' Category on the big wheel. Also there was the 'Uh-oh! Deluxe' with more points and twice the slime. (My partner got slimed twice)
Wink Yahoo is a frighteningly tall man who may have stepped out of the world of Peewee Herman.
TangoZippo ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:26:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Canadian kids game show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHaKYR2rVSk
It was on a
public accesschannel for kids (YTV) and usually aired right after school (at least in Ontario) so everyone watched it.Wink Yahoo did an AMA a few years ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/129wht/i_am_wink_yahoo_aka_scott_yaphe_from_ytvs_90s/
ImpactThunder ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:22:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think ytv would be considered public access...
TangoZippo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:24:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ya, you're right. It's owned by Corus and was professionally run. Whoops
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Solid nostalgia kick right there.
pandaSmore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was a pretty good AMA. I always knew that slime was disgusting.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:47:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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NoWhammies10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:03:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Picture Super Sloppy Double Dare on speed and MORE speed.
tikkigod ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:42:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have no idea what this show is, but I'm laughing at the fact that someone on the set of a kids show was called The Punisher.
pandaSmore ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:27:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Google The Punisher Uh Oh. It's even funnier.
jonosvision ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:28:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Wink Yahoo did an AMA a few years ago. I asked him why they never fixed the funnel that the Punisher poors the goo down, because so often the funnel was crooked and the kid barely got shimed, and he actually responded! Fucking made my year and pleased 10-year-old me!
If anyone is curious about what he said, something like: "I noticed that too but never asked questions" or along those lines. Really nice guy.
drog324 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:27:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I met Scott Yaphe (actor of Wink Yahoo) just a few months ago. I thought he was tall as a kid, but I figured that was just a matter of perspective. Nope, he was just tall.
Nice guy, had some interesting stories. Apparently there were two different actors for the punisher, one white and one black. And there was a time he and another person there (I think it was PJ Phil) were told they were going to do a one hour live show... in 4 hours. Queue a mad dash to try to prepare 60 minutes of content. They ended up beatboxing for most of it.
mullersmutt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:41:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Slashin' Sam told me once that one of the Punishers (I think the black guy) was a complete gem, super nice to all the kids and cast members. But the other guy was a real tool.
drog324 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:47:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah the black one was way more into it. From what Scott said, the white guy wasn't bad or anything, he just viewed it as a job. Punch in, punch out. Can't really grudge him for that.
mullersmutt ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:49:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely can't grudge him for that. It's nice to have another perspective on this tiny useless bit of information that I've had in the back of my head for almost 10 years, haha. #WhitePunishersMatter
mullersmutt ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:31:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Super cool to hear. In college, my on-camera presentation professor was Sam Cooke, one of the mayhem girls on Uh Oh.
She started her introduction to the class by telling us that and then went on to talk about the rest of her career. When it was over, she asked if we had any questions. We all pit our hands up. Then she asked if we had any questions unrelated to Uh Oh. Literally everyone put their hands down.
She was really awesome.
Also I think that's her at the bottom right.
AgentSmithRadio ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, that's her! She was the head of the Radio Broadcasting program when I was at Mohawk.
ThatOneChappy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:55:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Punisher..as in Frank Castle?
AgentSmithRadio ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:37:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Slashin' Sam now teaches Radio Broadcasting at a community college.
I was actually surprised to recognize one of my college professors from a game show I watched as a kid. She goes by Sam Cook these days and she does a bunch of commercial voice-over work on the side.
BytesAndCoffee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:51:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went to Mohawk! Decent school, admin needs to treat the part time instructors (who make up the far majority of teaching staff, at least in the engineering department) better, but great place none the less
plessis204 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:54:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had such a boner for her as a kid
mullersmutt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:39:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I posted this earlier in the thread.
Not sure if she still does, but back when she taught us, she was the on-camera presentation instructor for the Television Broadcasting course. Regardless, did the students do the same thing that my class did, or was this more recently and therefore the students were well beyond Uh Oh age?
b0mmer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Met her once on-set when I was in the audience, again in college, and again when my brother was seeing her.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:22:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wink Yahoo!? Is that his real name?
A_Dallas_Welcome ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:27:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
According to wiki, no. His real name is the slightly more believable Scott Yaphe.
CallMe_Dig_Baddy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The girl with the blonde hair on that show, Sam Cooke, is a wedding planner in my area now.
bigheyzeus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"punisher, control!" "I like slime!"
A remember fantasizing about a couple of the girls who were cohosts, they were hot iirc
LARPeasant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So badly wanted to be on that show as a kid, by the time I was old enough I doubt it was being made anymore. One can still dream!
Altostratus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:01:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're my hero.
A_Dallas_Welcome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well shit, that was easy.
drawnbytracy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I met him in real life recently. He's not nearly as tall as I remember. Growing up is hard. :(
Book_1love ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you for this. I loved that show as a kid but I would have been too shy to ever audition. Good to know it was as fun as it looked
carbonated_turtle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on a couple of YTV game shows as a kid too. Clips and Video & Arcade Top 10 a couple of times. Those bastards still owe my friend an SNES copy of Ballz for being the studio audience member paired with the winning player. And Nicholas Picholas still haunts my dreams.
iamdigidude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What episode was it and is it on YouTube?
A_Dallas_Welcome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is (the whole series is!), and I have it, but in the interest of not givin away personal information, I'd rather not say which is mine.
iamdigidude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok sure, I understand why you wouldn't want to.
A_Dallas_Welcome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here is the channel though! Mine's in there somewhere!
iamdigidude ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you very much!
brodydanger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy fuck, I haven't heard the name Wink Yahoo in so long. Fuck ya to 90's kids tv.
DragonTycoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Punisher was definitely the world's most loveable gimp!
Vecend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I swear that red team won 90% of the time.
Reworked ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wink Yahoo is still a pretty cool guy, he was a guest at a geek con up here
mfg_colour ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
his ama
stelliokonto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:17:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who loved this show as a kid, and wished more than anything to be on it. This is quite awesome to hear!
_Lady_Deadpool_ ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:23:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I looked it up out of curiosity...
เฒ _เฒ
Edit: WHAT THE FUCK
Edit2: this looks like a bad mix of children and S&M
josh_the_misanthrope ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:30:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's how they keep Canadians so polite. Rigorous training.
CarbonatedConfidence ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:34:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm, was trained rigorously. Thank you for taking the time to read my comment, I'm sorry if it doesn't meet your expectations.
Almoe9 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:01:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Best show!! watched religiously as a kid.
Rolloverbeethoven93 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:33:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
RED TEAM!
ok_crazy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:43:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mayhem > Amen
RhythmicRed ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:22:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
PUNISHER!!!
CONTROOOOOLLLLLLLL!!!
THCInjection ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:46:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I loved that show, it's what I pictured when OP first mentioned YTV.
I always cheered for the red team, though they rarely won for some reason,
MageFood ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Red team checking in
rikushix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes!! God as a kid I totally had colour preferences and I cheered for red always.
nicksline ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:34:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OP pls confirm if the punisher was indeed an S&M aficionado
__EH__ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:41:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There were definitely weird overtones there. I mean, he'd pull kids out of the audience and then cover them with weird translucent sticky stuff...
polkadotdream ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:48:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently the guy who played Wink Yahoo did an AMA on here a few years ago!
josh_the_misanthrope ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:21:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice find!
RaccoonyDave ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:06:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like a mom trying to talk about Yu-gi-oh
daffyduckhunt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd be surprised if Uh Oh! wasn't all filmed in 1 day. The only thing they would maybe have to film on another day was when they had outdoor obstacle races for the 3 teams to place their bets on.
ThePrivacyPolicy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:19:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They did two episodes in a day when I was in the audience. These ones didn't have any outdoor stuff though (as best I remember)
pandaSmore ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:32:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
4 episodes a days over the course of 2 weeks. According to /u/winkyahoo
possiblysabrina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was an AWESOME show. God I remember it from when I was a kid. The guy with the hockey mask who pours the goo always make my laugh if he didn't get to pour slime on someone.
June1111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:42:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Love his hair! XD
etv123 ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 17:24:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Adrenaline Project?
drawnbytracy ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 23:04:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, it was. I can't believe people actually remember the show! It was such a small, unknown show, wasn't it?
etv123 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:32:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be totally honest, I looked up those types of shows and tried to find the closest match. That's really cool though, how'd you do on it?
drawnbytracy ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:39:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I came in second place, and made enough money to buy myself a Wii! At the time, that was the single coolest thing I could have ever purchased; it had just come out and I had been wanting one since hearing about it. No regrets. :P
RaygeQuit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember watching that show and I thought it was cool, but none of the episodes were ever shown in order. Kinda wished I could have been on the show, glad you had a good experience with it!
CyanPancake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember it mostly from promos and watching parts of an episode when I had nothing to do. A lot of people knew about it though, in Canada at least, I don't believe anyone in America would.
Neelshah0123 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I was thinking too.
SlyCoopersButt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:22:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was it one of those 90's shows that Nickelodeon aired?
Drlittle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Guts? That would be neat
TangoZippo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Uh Oh!
Number224 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend who was on a YTV show as well. It was more close to Wipeout. While the production crew loved her enthusiasm, she didn't pass the first round, but she got a good amount of screen time for someone who didn't make round 2. I think she got $100 bucks from it too. Not bad.
Number224 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend who was on a YTV show as well. It was more close to Wipeout. While the production crew loved her enthusiasm, she didn't pass the first round, but she got a good amount of screen time for someone who didn't make round 2. I think she got $100 bucks from it too. Not bad.
Elbiotcho ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went to a taping for a game show. It took 12 hours to film 3 one hour episodes. They would even get "reaction shots". Such as, telling us, "everyone look surprised" "everyone look disappointed" etc.
cranksplat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:01:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
cranksplat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:01:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hamotaro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:17:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Omg I remember watching that I think! There was a bootcamp and everything right?
[deleted] ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 19:34:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If somebody offers you the world in exchange for remembering this experience, fucking take it. It could not have been that fun.
PatrickLane17 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:40:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gee, I never thought of it that way...
spiderlanewales ยท 290 points ยท Posted at 16:43:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was on an episode of MTV Made. It wasn't super-scripted, but certain things were added to make the kids look stupid. On our episode, the producers had socks stuffed inside a kid's drums to make them sound bad, even though the kid didn't actually do that. Stuff like that, but the scripts had room for ad-libs, and the show was fine with that as long as nobody said anything too crazy or suggested anything they couldn't deliver on.
Unfortunately, a LOT of the kids on the show go back to how they were before almost immediately after filming. People can totally be who they want to be, but why apply to the show? And also, it kinda sucks when the show drops a fuckton of money on you (our episode involved paying for an appearance from Finger Eleven when they were huge) and it ends up being a waste for everything other than getting a TV episode out of it.
2_Headed_Cat ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 17:13:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man, talk about a blast from the past, I loved that show! But on the show, they had someone coaching them. Without that coach, they probably lacked the discipline to continue that momentum.
spiderlanewales ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:21:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. The singer in my band at the time was the coach, so we were all involved at various points, one of us would do a scene giving advice, or trying to keep the girl from crying (that was real, she was legit freaked out at the idea of changing.)
Evie68 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:52:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I found out yesterday my husband was on made! Surprisingly it never came up before yesterday. Anyway it was really fake the producers asked him to make up a story about the guy who was being made and how they were best friends form childhood. He never met the guy and didn't even talk to him the night it was filmed
buttononmyback ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:05:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which episode was he on?
asuka_is_my_co-pilot ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:30:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That money for finger eleven was probably nothing compared to the ad revenue they got from fans watching just to see them. Especially for mtv
mdhh99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's still being filmed!
micromonas ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:22:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a friend that was on Made, I was around for a good bit of the filming but only made like 10 seconds of airtime. Pretty much went as you described, most of it is real but the producers will manufacture drama to make the episode interesting. Weirdest part for me was repeating funny things we had said or did so the cameramen could get a better shot of it.
My friend actually used the professional connections he made from that show to create a successful business. Dude now lives in a mansion with $100,000+ cars and shit, so I guess it worked out quite well for him
Wand_Cloak_Stone ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:16:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend was also on Made, it was mostly real but I did get asked to do a few things for her for the cameras (I said no, though, so I wasn't on it). Funny thing is that her sister is my best friend and one of the sweetest people ever, and they somehow managed to make her look like a shallow bitch.
She still talks to one of the people who worked on her episode, though.
whattoucantfind ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:40:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fronz from Atilla is still doing well and kept the weight off. Tho i don't think he could be a "traditional model" anymore(see: covered in tattoos)...
fredthefishhh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah the dude has a kid, multiple sports cars and a hot wife. He's a smart business guy.
ladybugz17 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 01:14:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They came to my high school and held interviews/auditions to pick who would be the next person on the show. They ended up picking some loner freshman, but it was crazy how nice our school looked on camera...that was not the case in real life.
jpropaganda ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 05:28:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My brother used to produce some episodes of that show! He said he felt like shit When he made a 15 year old girl run in the rain at 5am specifically because he knew it would get her to cry
Elemental33 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:33:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I saw finger eleven a few months ago dude was on something and I personally didn't enjoy the show
spiderlanewales ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:40:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard that about them. Same thing with Candlebox, everyone i've talked to who's seen them recently said they're seriously coked out all the time.
HeyGirlsItsPete ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 14:23:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I was in high school, one of my classmates was selected to be on MTV Made (the episode was never aired). One day, I was going to the bathroom and a camera man called me over. He asked if I knew the kid the episode would be about (I was friendly with him so I said yes) and then asked if I wanted to say a few words.
The theme here was that the kid wanted to become a DJ or something, so the camera guy told me to basically say "[Kid's name] becoming a DJ? Yeah right, that would never happen."
I guess my point here is that while there was an element of truth to this show (I did know the kid, and he was actually going through the process), they pretty much were just feeding us lines. I was supposed to have been kind of dramatic about how my classmate would never become a DJ, but really, how crazy is it to actually become a DJ?
spiderlanewales ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:03:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I will admit, my singer, the main coach of the show, did have to fight with them a bit to get to ad-lib more than planned.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:40:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What episode was it?
I-Suck-At-Games ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:12:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was curious too since I used to watch it all the time when I was younger. I looked it up, and it seems to be this episode.
envyxd ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:16:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Friend was on Made. His life is still meh after it.
MasterJaron ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:59:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't there one with Killer Mike? I never saw the episode, but I was at a show Mike did in Athens and he got the kid he helped up on stage and said that the kid was on his way to college and that he was on his way to doing better.
LetsFightingL0v3 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:19:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god, I used to love that show!
mcrib ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:56:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What is a "Finger Eleven" and when was it "huge"?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:03:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on an episode of Made, I was the "bad guy coach" of the "rival team." I didn't even realize that was how I was portrayed... I just told them I didn't want cameras interfering with the practices or the sideline, so I guess they took that personally.
They asked me to do a post game interview about the athlete but I didn't have much to say since that athlete only played in maybe 3 minutes.
I wasn't interested in being a part of this but the school I worked for wanted the PR.
Laherschlag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My sister and I loved that show! I especially re5meber Dov, the guy tha wated to turn from a nerdy boy to a wrestler.
mcrib ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:56:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What is a "Finger Eleven" and when was it "huge"?
mcrib ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 09:56:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What is a "Finger Eleven" and when was it "huge"?
PyrrhuraMolinae ยท 123 points ยท Posted at 22:19:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine worked as an art director on the American version of "Supernanny". She said pretty much everything was real, maybe editing together to make it a bit more dramatic, but the family interactions were genuine. And she said Jo Frost is a very sweet, warm woman who really does her best for the kids.
Cricket-Jiminy ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:00:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that woman is amazing.
gpenfish ยท 3126 points ยท Posted at 15:14:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In the very first episode of Top Chef they ever filmed, Tom Colicchio flipped out because the dishes the contestants had cooked were getting cold while the film crew took "food porn" shots of them. From then on, all the contestants have to prepare two dishes. One for the judges to sample, and one for the cameras to pan over and show the audience.
mrtlwolf ยท 819 points ยท Posted at 17:17:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think I saw an interview about Chopped where they said they don't take food temperature into account because it's not fair to the last people in line for judging, etc.
[deleted] ยท 618 points ยท Posted at 17:56:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How can you not take that into account? Food texture and mouthfeel changes with temp.
asmodeuskraemer ยท 805 points ยท Posted at 18:04:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"This risotto has the texture of old oatmeal! TEN THOUSAND YEARS DUNGEON!"
Pancake_Bucket ยท 260 points ยท Posted at 19:31:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
UUUNACCEPTAAABLE!!!
Unacceptable_Lemons ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:36:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TOO SPICY!
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:25:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OH, SO SPICE!
alblaster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:39:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcfkEA2INMw
for the three people who don't get this reference.
ewewmjuilyh ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:55:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
NO TRIAL!
Unacceptable_Lemons ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:37:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just a joke? For.... for laughs?
Davis660 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:58:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ahahaaahaahaahaahahahahaahaahahaha!
TheFuzzyOne1214 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:21:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus fucking Christ, reading that makes his voice even squeakier in my head than it actually is. How the fuck is that even possible!?
Unacceptable_Lemons ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:36:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hmm. Acceptable punishment. Carry on.
ICanSmellFearOnYou ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:44:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
PUT YOU IN MY OVEN!
Nloveladyallen ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:17:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hitler?
ProfessorLX ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:48:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you are making risotto on Chopped, 95% of the time you are getting chopped.
OuttaSightVegemite ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:03:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
UNACCEPTABLLLLLLEEEEEE!!
Ar_Ciel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:34:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"This rice is so hard it could star in porn!!"
asmodeuskraemer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:56:06 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
HAHAHA!
Soldier1317 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just ten thousand?
asmodeuskraemer ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:34:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its an Adventure Time reference. You've probably never heard of it. </end hipster attitude>
[deleted] ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 19:39:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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danielswrath ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:16:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In masterchef Australia you can see that, after they are done with cooking and the judges have to taste, all the workbenches are completely clean.
I just wish they would be less focussed esthetics of the show and more on the actual cooking and food
Realscience666 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 19:31:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This comment just makes me wish judges used "mouthfeel" more, it's one of the best cooking words. "This has exquisite MOUTHFEEL."
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:45:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LOL, too bad Bob lost to the awesome chef, Skip Maroosh.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:34:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well cold fat has yucky mouthfeel. Warm fat has silky mouthfeel.
meowtiger ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:33:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
fixed that for you citizen
AccidentalConception ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:41:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Boyle? Is that you?
Kerigor ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:34:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is why you will occasionally hear judges sound surprised and say something like "Oh wow, it's still warm."
misspotatohead0 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:00:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently on cooking shows now it is quite common for the judges to just try a spoonful of this and that while the contestants are cooking, so they know how it tastes hot so they can judge it properly
Jeremy1026 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:57:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do you account for 4 people finishing cooking at the same time, but still giving the judges adequate time to eat each dish? By the time they get to the final dish it is either cold or was sitting under a heat lamp for upwards of an hour.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:02:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
An iron chef I spoke with once mentioned that he would prepare a meal specifically to be served 30 or so minutes after he prepares it. Often it will sit in an oven until the judges can taste it, depending on the show, and the chef accounts for that.
rb20s13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:33:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But if you take 30 minutes to get to mine its going to be cold as shit. Thats not my fault
luke_in_the_sky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:51:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn. Just use the microwave!
Ganongeek ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:36:33 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Excellent mouthfeel
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:34:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're professionals; they know how it's supposed to taste
KH10304 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 00:30:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ha ha mouthfeel
Donald_RcMonald ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 20:08:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember where a contestant complained about his ice cream melting and Ted Allen said something along the lines of "Did you tell any of our produces to put it in the fridge?" Hmm.
peacebypiecebuypeas ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 21:38:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If the producers need to be told that ice cream needs to be kept cold, they might not be well suited for a show about food...
Donald_RcMonald ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:51:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It seems as if the onus was on the contestant to ask for their items to be kept under a heater/in a fridge.
TrueBlonde ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:12:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read an interview that said something similar. The moment time goes off, the judges run over and sample the 4th plate that is made. Then, they eat the other 3 plates later while it's being filmed and act like that's their first time sampling it.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:11:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The fourth plate is for filming though...?
Keykatriz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:50:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the 4th plate is the one they put under the cover for whoever is chopped.
carpy22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a pretty fair way of doing it actually.
I_Robbed_Bob ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:04:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Alex gaurnaschelli said that in the AMA she did here.
mrtlwolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what it was. Thanks!
playgrounddtsa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:26:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. Have been on chopped. Held my food in my hand for one hour as it got cold. Everyone kept telling me they don't take it into consideration- I just don't know how that's possible.
mrtlwolf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:27:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Could just be used to eating coldish food by now, but who knows.
EDIT: Also, you've been on Chopped? How'd you do?
playgrounddtsa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:50:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I finished second. Right behind the biggest douchebag in the world. For what it's worth, he definitely out cooked me on on the main course.
DuceGiharm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:19:02 on July 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Awesome dude! What episode? You gotta share, coming in second on chopped is incredible!
playgrounddtsa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:39:21 on July 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know the name of the episode. The guy I went up against was such a douchebag that I only watched it once. I never want to see it again.
If you'd like to know who I am, my name is Jason Quinn and I am the chef of Playground and Playground 2.0 in downtown Santa Ana, ca.
I won season 2 of great food truck race as well. I was a judge on mtv's short lived "snack-off"
Have done a bunch of random appearances here and there.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:29 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You should do an AMA! The other day I was searching AMA for someone who has been on chopped as a contestant and couldn't find one.
playgrounddtsa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:49:06 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've done quite a few of these type of shows. I'd be happy to do an AMA but I'd be nervous about what I could actually say. There's a lot of nda paperwork I've signed.
The_Count_Lives ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:22:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's easy to tell that there are multiple dishes. The one they show for "food porn" is always restyled to be better looking.
What I've always wondered is if there is someone remaking the meals behind the scenes for the styled shots, or whether they reuse the same stuff and just remake the plate.
SirTeffy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They make 4 plates. 3 for the judges to "eat" / make food porn, the 4th so judges can taste it fresh.
MagnusCthulhu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:26:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As I understand, they do the initial tasting almost immediately after the timer ends, while the extra dish is being used for the glamour shots. Then they sit down for the judging we see on camera.
UnknownQTY ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:46:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They always do 4 dishes - one for the shoots and three for the judges.
Bayside308 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:59:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They take into account if your frozen food melts because you were supposed to tell the Chopped staff to put it in a freezer (unless that part of the episode was fake too).
vikinick ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Chopped also has them make 4 of the same dish so each of the 3 judges can eat it and the cameraman can film it.
lessnonymous ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:21:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Masterchef AU is similar. Most of the judging on flavor is done as they walk around the room. Then they eat something fairly cold after the whole place has been cleaned and pretend that's what they're judging.
Source: can't remember sorry
Fettnaepfchen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:46:30 on July 20, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That must be culinary hell. These people must have really good pokerfaces.
G8kpr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:58:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heard the same about MasterChef, because the cameras have to take so many shots of the dish in various angles, that when the Judges do a final taste, they don't knock off marks for cold food.
However, the judges to go around and sample food as it's being made, so I am pretty sure they know what your final product is going to taste like before it's done.
ClayGCollins9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:26:03 on July 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think measures are taken to keep food warm or cold. I remember one episode where a guy made ice cream but didn't tell the producers that his dish needed to be refrigerated. The judges still tore into him for having melted ice cream.
sudonem ยท 1845 points ยท Posted at 16:50:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not fake, just smart pre-pro.
El_Giganto ยท 211 points ยท Posted at 16:55:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He didn't say it was fake.
GridSquid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'll do it.
"It's fake"
[deleted] ยท -39 points ยท Posted at 18:42:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He didn't have to. It's implied.
He's posting his response to OP asking for examples of fakery in reality TV shows.
El_Giganto ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:48:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Read the title again mate.
TheBaltimoron ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 10:59:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So...yeah.
El_Giganto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:13:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This answers "what's not".... So... yeah....
[deleted] ยท -47 points ยท Posted at 18:53:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I will do no such thing. Mate.
El_Giganto ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 19:21:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay... Then why even comment...?
Ace116 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:52:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Check.... Mate.
janreinacher ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:43:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get rekt mate...
3holes2tits1fork ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:19:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ahh, the classic "close your eyes and cover your ears" argument.
MurphyBinkings ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:15:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're not too bright, eh?
Bo-FoSho ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:56:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"People who have been on reality TV shows, what's rigged and what's not?"
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
pre-pro sounds so pro. ci-cool...
MagicalWeirdo ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 16:53:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh so that's why they make so many.
[deleted] ยท 266 points ยท Posted at 16:58:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a disclaimer at the end of Top Chef now that says producers have a say in the outcomes of challenges. So basically producers craft a narrative and judges judge according to it.
[deleted] ยท 199 points ยท Posted at 18:17:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tom Colicchio is the head judge as well as a producer, so that's not so big a problem.
WrongPeninsula ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:03:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You are assuming his internal chef trumps his internal TV producer.
BNFforlife ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 07:25:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
which is fair because he is a chef.
monumentclub ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:56:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This isn't accurate. The producers consult with the judges, but the judges choose who they feel should win.
SOURCE: I've worked on the last four seasons of the show, and sat through way too many hours of deliberation about food.
glassisnotglass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:28:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ooh, would you please tell us more about what's real ) fake in it?
monumentclub ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:29:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, I feel like you have to start with the fact that the entire idea of a bunch of chefs showing up in a kitchen and competing for prizes is very contrived. Nothing about the narrative of competition cooking shows is "real" in the sense of being a naturally-occuring set of interactions. Shows like Top Chef aren't fly-on-the-wall documentaries, but rather they are staged "events" with their own set of rules for both the competition and the narrative of the show. In that context, however, very little, if any, of the show could be described as "fake." The chefs cook what you see them cook with the ingredients and equipment you see them given, and the judges eat the food that you see the chefs cook.
/u/gpenfish is correct that the chefs always make one extra dish that goes to "food porn," but this dish is factored into the rules that the chefs receive and agree to before every challenge, and the time given to the chefs for a specific challenge always takes the extra dishes into account. For these chefs, plating one additional plate isn't a factor in the quality of the dishes tasted by the judges. I guess the "food porn" plate could be considered fake, in the sense that you're not seeing the specific plate that the judges are eating when you see the nice b-roll of the plate with the on-screen label of the name of the dish.
For Quickfires, the judges taste the food within minutes after it's plated, and for Elimination Challenges the food comes straight to the table from the kitchen or serving station, so in both cases the judges are tasting the food directly after the plating process. The chefs are entirely in control of when they plate, but they can't serve anything until the time is up, (i.e. you can't serve a dish before time is called.)
As with any competition show, the producers are involved throughout the decision-making process, but on Top Chef their involvement is in the interest of making sure that the judges are talking through their decision-making process on-camera so that the audience understands why a certain winner or loser is being chosen. Since we as the audience can't taste the food, it's the judges' responsibility to give us an idea of what made a certain chef's food deserving of a win or a loss.
It's natural for people working on the show to have favorite characters, but that doesn't directly influence any of the win/loss decisions on the show. I've seen many times when the chef that both the producers and the judges really wanted to win, either because they were generally a better chef or because they were fun/interesting to have on the show, was eliminated because their food just wasn't as good as everyone else's that day. In this sense, Top Chef has a lot of integrity, because they really do try to choose winners and losers based entirely on the rules of the challenge, rather than on factors like likeability/marketability/past performance.
mrspeacockwasaman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:02:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This makes me so happy to hear! We love Top Chef. Do you by chance know if Masterchef also has this sort of integrity?
monumentclub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:02 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Although I know a lot of people who work on MasterChef, I've only worked on the MasterChef Celebrity Showdown, so I don't have much experience with how the judging works. I have heard that they eat the same food that they use for food porn, so it's usually been sitting for a while before the judges try it. Also, Christina Tosi is awesome.
mrspeacockwasaman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:03 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I LOVE HER SO MUCH. When she told that one kid to look her in the eye when she was talking I got the biggest girl crush on her.
paulcole710 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:10:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That disclaimer is at the end of virtually every reality show.
Draffut2012 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:11:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They must do a good job, because it's the only reality show I've ever really gotten into.
Heaven't watched since Season 6 though.
fizzyspells ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:54:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you're missing out. 8-12 are the best in the series (10 & 12 especially) and 13 (most recent) was pretty great too
bilyl ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:13:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of a crazy last season IMO. I didn't expect Jeremy to win since he was such a bro and made the same thing every week. I thought Carl would have won. Kwame had by far the biggest choke job towards the end considering how well he was doing in the first half of the season.
fizzyspells ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:51:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah i liked jeremy fine but def didn't expect him to win. i was pulling for marjorie and amar and expected kwame to sweep, it was a shame. unfortunately half of the entire season was spent with phillip's boring drama so it kind of took until he was eliminated for the group to really gel together imo, which made it more of a lackluster season than 12
MurphyBinkings ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's always said that
bilyl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:11:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've watched the most recent 6 season of Top Chef. While it's not totally real or totally fake, you can pretty much guess the entire season. There will be a couple of people in there that are totally for the drama and will be out by halfway through the season. Then there are those who you know will never make it to the end that will be knocked off one by one until the last four -- figuring out the order is the interesting part. But from the beginning you can tell that they've already stacked the season with 3-4 really good contestants who might stumble on an episode or two but will never be outright kicked off.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:54:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My girlfriend has picked the winner of the last 4 seasons after watching the first episode.
WollieNL ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 17:59:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh wow. The ones I've seen had the best dishes win. But then again, I've only seen seasons of the British version.
KFBass ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 19:53:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
In one of Anthony bourdains books (medium raw I think) he speaks about being a guest judge on top chef. He specifically mentions how its best dish win, period. Not even the sorry back stories come into play.
EDIT: def was medium raw. Also typos. He specifically mentions sending home somebody much to the anger of the producers.
thewhits ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:56:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is why Top Chef is the best.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:21:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly this is good to hear. I work for a top chef winner and I'm glad to hear she won because she was the best and it wasn't all a sham. She's an amazing woman and deserves everything she has gotten as a result of that show.
ThatHermioneGranger ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:00:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't surprise me, because I've been to a few Top Chef restaurants now, and the food has always been good.
rvaducks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which one dammit?
ensanguine ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:25:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Posts in /r/chicago, so probably Stephanie Izard.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:14:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Stephanie Izard
antifreze ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:38:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I met her at last year's food and wine festival in Chicago. Definitely the coolest and most down to earth chef I've met. I wish her all the success (her food is incredible too)
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:28:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She really is. She is so down to earth and incredibly respectful of everyone that works for her. She works harder than anyone I've ever met and I am just in awe. She was cooking on the line at 8 months pregnant!
ensanguine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Girl and the Goat or The Little Goat?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Little G
ensanguine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:41 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice, I haven't been there yet but I've heard great things. GatG is probably the best meal I've had in the year I've lived in CHI though.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:12 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I definitely prefer the food at Girl & the Goat but we have some great things too. She recently opened her third, Duck Duck Goat. It's really tasty Chinese food.
superdago ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:47:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad to know the "best dish wins" rule isn't just a line for tv. There have been multiple seasons where a seemingly better chef is sent home even though everyone acknowledged their past dishes were much better and the bad one was an anomaly.
KFBass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Makes sense I guess. Specially as a guest judge. You put 10+ meals in front of me. Given a set of rules or a theme. I'd like to think I could judge them objectively and ignore the tv stuff.
I am a certified beer judge as well as make my living in the beer industry, and have judged several international and national competitions for professional breweries and homebrewers. I like to think we remain impartial. Too bad nobody makes a tv show about brewers ha-ha.
izzvlogs ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:32:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh ! That makes so much sense. Tom Colicchio you smart smart man.
Real_Adam_Sandler ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 19:06:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go buy your mom a used Nissan
Darklyte ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:52:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've noticed on Cutthroat Kitchen the chefs are always plating two dishes, but they only ever have one for the judge to sample. Took me a season to notice it and gather why.
aroymart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I watched several seasons without understanding why. It took reading this comment on reddit a few months ago to figure it out
GWizzle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:06:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's clearly some editing between Alton Brown saying time's up and the judge starting to taste the food, but I've always liked how it seems like they do try to transition as quickly as possible. Again, maybe it is just editing and for show because a lot has to happen sometimes to "reset" the kitchen but I imagine they take as little time in between as is possible.
Kahzgul ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:14:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every cooking competition show does two dishes for this very reason. Top Chef is pretty old, so they may have actually set the standard, I'm not sure. Even so, in most shows the judges are not permitted to consider the temperature of the food as part of their judgement simply because the food often sat around for 10 minutes or more while shots were being set up.
Source: I work on a cooking show.
Lemona1d_Lady ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:32:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I absolutely love this goddamn show, it's honestly a guilty pleasure at this point from how much time I've spent watching it. It's probably the most "real" reality show out there though I always worry people will get turned off by it due to the stigma that the genre itself has. But I'll be damned if that isn't one of the most simultaneously appealing, entertaining, likeable, and inspiring shows out there.
TacticalNukePenguin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:48:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know a guy who's worked on a few food related shows. His job is pretty much to recreate what contestants have made, but using substitute items that won't distort under the lights for the camera (e.g. if a contestant uses ice cream, he makes some mashed potatoes).
He does it more for chef's who can make the same dish repeatedly look the same, as it gives him time to prepare the false food for the cameras without too much differences in appearance from what is served to the judges.
sleepyprojectionist ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:31:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of a friend once told me that a lot of the food goes cold on these types of shows before the filming of close-ups is done. Apparently the production team will often hide a tampon that has been dipped in boiling water behind a plate so that it looks to the camera as if the dish is piping hot.
It's quicker than a microwave I suppose.
mndtrp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:54:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That makes sense. I can't recall which show I was watching recently, but the chefs would always make at least one extra plate than judges. On a separate viewing, I also wondered if the judges would vote differently if they could eat the food right away, instead of waiting for the chefs to blabber on about what they made. I guess if I would have had the same thoughts in the same viewing, I would have put two and two together much quicker.
lisasimpsonfan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that was standard for cooking shows. I love cooking competition shows and almost all of them have the cooks make an extra plate.
fuck-dat-shit-up ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I believe they also had their own chefs remake the dishes for food porn shots. The asain chick from season 1 was in charge of it for season 2. They do this with other cooking shows as well, like MasterChef.
Yardsale420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I noticed this on Chopped too. They make 4 dishes, 3 for judges 1 for camera.
Ultra_HR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck, I was just about to suggest that they get the glamour shots of the food after it's been eaten but uh. Yeah.
lostmonkey70 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:29:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's pretty obvious that the contestants on Chopped and Cutthroat Kitchen do the same thing. They always plate at least one more plate than needed.
___what___ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was wondering why on Cutthroat Kitchen they make two plates.
elfeyesseetoomuch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Worked on a season of Top Chef. There is a lot of real but also a lot of staged. There were very strict rules when it came to interacting with the contestants as to not ruin the integrity of the show. Some of the best food I have ever eaten though.
mightynifty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:24:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They show this on a lot of food network shows now, like Cutthroat Kitchen, really respect Alton Brown and the network for finding a real solution and not just having the producers telling the chefs to fuck off.
vegasrandall ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:10:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I worked on top chef here in vegas. one segment when they were sampling the "just cooked" dish it came right out of the refrigerator. they took a bite on camera,gushed about it and spit it out as soon as they said CUT!
Verybusyperson ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:14:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have been in an iron chef competition in University, and we had to do the same. Suprised it took them that long to figure it out
superdago ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:45:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're surprised they figured this out almost immediately?
Beanzii ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:27:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heard what they do because there is huge gaps between the cooking and the judgings that the food the contestants make aren't actually the food the judges eat. a professional chef recreates the exact process that went into the dish while the tastings are going on so they are at eating temp when being tasted.
techiesportsfan ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm yy
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breadprincess ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 00:58:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is random, but I used to follow your LJ, it's good to see you pop up on Reddit.
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IAmSedders ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:33:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same here, I have to admit I used to go back to yours long after you'd left just to check in case there was a new post!
mukusplug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:08 on October 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes! All of her photos of her travels
gbinasia ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 04:27:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You forever have a place in my heart for introducing me to the term 'shit slice'.
And who could forget the classic 'Gisele, you fucking worthless cunt'.
You should totally come see us over at /r/ANTM. You're our idol.
[deleted] ยท 55 points ยท Posted at 04:50:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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gbinasia ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:57:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hear hear!
frenchbritchick ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 00:53:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Omg hiiiiii !!!!!
Don't mind me I'll just be here fangirling :D
You were my favourite and I totally thought you should have won !
Slow_Like_Sloth ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:39:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who is it??? How did you guys figure it out??
greeeens ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 06:03:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's Elyse from Cycle 1
AnnieR12 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:19:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Huge ANTM fan here, wanted to ask a further question about Tyra: do you think she really cared about the contestants modelling careers/prospects? She always seemed so invested in the show during the earlier seasons, as if she genuinely cared for some of the girls.
Why did you hate your experience on the show?
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ShawneeAlice ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 03:39:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
First off, you were my favorite on that season, and maybe even all the seasons. Second, after reading all of your replies, you sound exactly like how I remember you! I'm glad to see you didn't let the show/industry change you. Thank you for responding to this thread.
Slow_Like_Sloth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:40:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who was it?? I didn't see who t was, was It Elise?
Riimii ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:21:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes
ShawneeAlice ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:04:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, Elyse Sewell :)
gbinasia ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:31:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I disagree with you on that. The show would've been a lot more interesting if we had had strong and smart personnalities like yours.
alsosprachyourmom ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:20:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I loved watching you/her (this tree-ing is confusing) but I could see how you could feel that it's not good for YOU. Her. Erm. You get my point.
RavisTrice ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 06:00:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was dating a girl in college that watched that first ANTM, and you're the only thing I remember from that show. You stood out due to being so much more real and relatable in comparison to the vacuousness of the other contestants. I recall thinking that you were going to win and then just turn and go back to med school.
filo4000 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 04:21:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
holy cow, I remember watching that cycle and being really pissed off you didn't win, I remember googling you and being glad that wiki said you had a good career after the show so congrats on that
KitKatMasterJapan ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:37:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I loved ANTM back in the day. Sorry you had a bad experience. How were your interactions with Tyra?
Easyandfree ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:16:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your rant is my favourite thing to come out of ANTM; Kathleen DuJours' one episode coming at a close second.
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[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 09:21:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just wanted to say that as a long time viewer of the show I really appreciated how you unintentionally ended up being the antithesis of what Tyra's "Top Model" should be (a.k.a someone who views modelling as her be all end all dream and treats Tyra as a God). It just always seemed so silly for the show to market a job based on youth and looks as a dream career. I'm just curious if you're still working in fashion now or have you moved on?
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cellistwitch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:45:12 on July 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i always thought you were so cool, btw. it's really neat to see you on Reddit now.
Easyandfree ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:46:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is brilliant! The rant really does sum up ANTM well, along with bringing it some verisimilitude.
Alvraen ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 11:06:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I fucking love you
thisisaonetimeoffer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:44:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I used to read your blog years ago! What a blast from the past. You were such a breath of fresh air on the show, so pleased for you that you got a good modelling career out of it.
Edit: in retrospect, no need to mention your name!
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AssiveAggressive ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:30:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably for the exposure. I follow a bunch of constants' IGs and some of them have books, are getting brand deals for sponsored posts, making youtube videos, etc in addition to modelling. It's quite skewed towards contestants of the later seasons after Tyra ran the show to shit.
NIN222 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:45:54 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Not sure if you'll read this but wanted to say I felt you definitely should've won (or maybe in hindsight you're glad you didn't!). Not only did you have the most unique look and took some stunning photos but I really admired how you stood up for yourself and your beliefs. Glad to hear ANTM was a springboard for a successful career.
2fly4afrenchfry ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:24:07 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hi! You are absolutely one of my favorite contestants in all 22 seasons of ANTM, so I was a little bummed when you weren't announced on the cast list for all-stars a couple years ago! Were you approached or offered a spot on that season by Tyra & Co?
Of course, you said you've moved on for modeling so your non-inclusion is understandable. But honestly your rant is one of the top RTV moments of all-time, so them at least not trying to have you back is a huge loss!
Also, do you keep in touch with anyone from the show?
(sorry for all the questions - wishing you all the best!)
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:59:58 on September 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Were you invited to compete on All Stars?
Slow_Like_Sloth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:50:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you release who you were? I LOVED that show back in the day and have religiously watched every season. What season were you on, at least?
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Slow_Like_Sloth ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:49:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah! I thought it had been you, made the most sense, you were definitely my favorite that season. Season 1 was interesting to say in the least with the praying and what not, do you think something like that would air anymore on reality television? It was definitely the least PC season of ANTM.
TheRachaelFish ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:05:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Her username is her last name. Use your Google-fu, young one.
EDIT: ummm, just ignore me. Sitting here not checking replies before posting.
mukusplug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:29:29 on October 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh hey girl! Loved you on there
swoofswoofles ยท 1626 points ยท Posted at 16:19:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
You know, it really depends on the type of show you are on because they vary so wildly in style. I've worked on a number of reality shows as a lighting technician, the ones I can remember the most are the amazing race, the great escape, kitchen nightmares, and twinning.
Twinning was the one that was most like jersey shore or the real world. Definitely not fake, but casting is so important. You don't need to fake anything when the people you as filming 24 hours a day are absolutely nuts. They'll decide at certain points to play God a little bit and move them into rooms with people they hate or give them alcohol when they realize two people have a thing together, but aren't acting on it. The producers of all of these shows just sit in a room and figure out how to create drama.
I've had friends work on duck dynasty and it sounds like what /u/henfrigate is saying. Everything in that show was scripted and they would do multiple takes and get coverage. Very fake, basically a tv show shot in a reality format.
Shows like the amazing race and the great escape on the other hand are pretty dang real. Because of the obstacles and challenges they are interesting enough without the producers interfering that much. On the great escape because of the style of the show, we would go back the next day and reshoot key moments in a cinematic way to push that style. While it was "fake" it was still pretty dang real.
Oh and kitchen nightmares is very real. Gordon Ramsey is just basically a producer that is in the show. He knows what good tv is and how to get it. They pick terrible businesses and the show writes itself. The remodels are always funny though as they are just so on the surface.
imjohnk ยท 761 points ยท Posted at 16:25:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amy's Baking Company didn't need any help in making it real. I watched that episode today and the business was terrible enough that nothing scripted was needed.
Edit: an episode of Kitchen Nightmares of Gordon Ramsey.
BaconZombie ยท 261 points ยท Posted at 18:50:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The few few sessions of the UK version were much better and they did not show stuff filmed at different times like they do in the US version.
Also he made them clean the kitchen and did not get a crew of people in to do it for them.
Kapp_E_Tan ยท 62 points ยท Posted at 21:29:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh absolutely. And it seemed like they picked down on their luck businesses who wanted to succeed and were, Usually, willing to change as opposed to the American version... which picked businesses that were failing based off the owners being morons
ProbablyNotARealAcc ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 16:10:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's pretty telling to me that the only businesses on Kitchen Nightmares US that succeeded were from season 1 (when they weren't picking complete fuckups) or recent seasons that haven't had enough time to go under. Everything from the middle seasons is dead.
peelit ยท 108 points ยท Posted at 20:04:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The UK one is so much better in all fronts.
jomosexual ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 20:36:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Great soundtrack too. Joy Division would never be on the US one
rollerhen ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:06:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The U.K. Version of almost ANY show is so much better on all fronts.* * Exception: Big Brother
Bbzk001 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:00:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Office US is better
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:37:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The US Office is good and thye are both very different shows but you are 100% an American if you think that. Have you even watched all of the UK Office? I love both shows but I've never met anybody who isn't an American who prefers the US Office. I guess it might be made more to American tastes (more lighthearted, more silly, cheaper jokes etc) which would make sense.
bushy82 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:58:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've never seen the US BB, but my wife and I watch the UK BB every year. We are Australian. The Brit's just seem to get reality TV better than the Aussie versions.
rollerhen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:05 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, but I also love Aussie reality TV - e.g., The Block! Plus Australia's Next Top Model & Housewives of Melbourne were classic, binge-worthy, depression-busting better versions of the American originals. I just wish I could get more international TV here in the US (legally.)
hewhoreddits6 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:17:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
America's Got Talent is better than Britain's Got Talent. Can't think of any others though. Haven't watched British X-Factor, but I'm going to assume it's better than the American one just off of things I've heard.
Magookas ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 21:11:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Whos line.. Perfect example
Edit: not sure why the downvotes. 'Merican version is clearly scripted in many parts & is nowhere near as funny as the UK version. Drew Carey's jokes are cringeworthy.
Note: not taking anything away from all the genius comedians on the show like Colin, Ryan, Wayne, Greg etc (who also starred on the UK version first & made it so great).
maccathesaint ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:39:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Flippin' Drew Carey.
Yardsale420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like both. But you are sooo right.
ElQuackers ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 23:58:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The UK in general
Iorith ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:06:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The UK is a lot less drama filled and more about improving the place, which is much more enjoyable personally.
pizzan0mics ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 02:37:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The US version is just a bog standard reality TV show, whereas the UK version is almost a cooking show.
EditorialSquid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:57:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
American audiences generally can't hold their attention on something that isn't drama filled, even if it's fabricated.
Dracosphinx ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:29:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And I fucking hate it. My parents watch all the shitty docudrama shows on discovery and history and I just wonder wtf happened to the main content for both.
Iorith ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:36:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You aren't wrong. I remember both shows being amazing to watch, and now it's all bullshit drama shows and conspiracy theories.
shinypretty ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:41:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're almost different shows. No dramatic confrontations, no pre-commercial cliff-hangers, no weird music in the background. Just Chef trying to help some of the biggest idiots ever in a kitchen.
BridgetteBane ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:25:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It drives me nuts on Bar Rescue when the owners and staff are wearing the same outfits in the "6 weeks later" wrapup shit, as they were during the relaunch night.
Destroyer_101 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:10:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the UK is less edited but more realistic.
muphdaddy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:56:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously they have a narrator in the us version it's the worst ...."what WILL Gordon do NEXTTT"
hewhoreddits6 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:18:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It made me so much happier when Gordon started narrating again in Hotel Hell.
Fadman_Loki ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:41:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He is seriously one of my favorite 'actors' of all time.
ClayGCollins9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:50 on July 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the UK version focused more on the food. It almost became a how-to show and (generally) tried to avoid drama. The US version lived for the drama. But maybe that's because of differences with the audiences.
hewhoreddits6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:16:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On the US one he usually made the staff clean the kitchen as well. Unless there was a need for an exterminator or something, I don't recall him ever calling in a special crew of people. While many people say the UK version is a lot better, I've watched a few episodes, and I can't help but feel that it's just boring compared to the US version. Yes more real and not heavily edited, but still very boring.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:39:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't find it boring at all, but fair enough if you do. People like to talk badly about some shows being "dumb, fake, OTT, cheesy" etc but it clearly works so there must be something good about them. I can't imagine ever wanting to watch the US Kitchen Nightmares over the UK one though.
the_number_2 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:07:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The pacing is very different between the two version. US is very high-energy and fast-paced, whereas the UK version is paced more like a documentary.
hewhoreddits6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, the reason why I watch the US version is because of the trashy people and the drama. It's hilarious yet heartbreaking to see the terrible situations Chef gets himself in. In the UK, everything was milder and toned down; it was much more optimistic than the US version. To my memory, it's probably the only show where the UK version is optimistic and the US version is sad.
B0bBurgers ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 19:35:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I live right by ABC in Scottsdale and you'll be glad to know they finally went out of business last year. Surprised they lasted that long though I guess they coasted on the publicity of the show for a while.
imjohnk ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:54:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah or maybe this guy is just really rich because why would Amy have a relationship with him anyway? Also he later tried attacking a customer with a knife, it's insane.
OneGoodRib ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 21:00:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My mom is suspicious the restaurant was a front for a money laundering scam for the mob.
livroselu ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:22:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
thats what we (my friend and i) thought too!!! the guy was always wearing gold chains and had that sneaky demeanor
REDDITATO_ ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:58:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's also what everyone said when the episode originally aired.
wolfman1911 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:03:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was about to say, didn't the guy himself suggest he had ties to organized crime?
TheSevenKhumquats ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:46:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"I am the gangster, not you"
badlero ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:12:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely connected then.
drunk-astronaut ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:49:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You say that like you are implying that she's a catch.
shinypretty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:42:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The blonde wife from Spin-A-Yarn was a much better trophy wife. Too bad she left her sugar daddy.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Bulletin/Bulletin-1/Kitchen-Nighmares-Spin-A-Yarn/i-tvshrqR/0/M/111003_193257-037-M.jpg
wolfman1911 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:04:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't tell if she's had too much plastic surgery, or not enough.
shinypretty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:24:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is a valid point. There's something ... not quite right.
[deleted] ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 16:48:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
They edited the show to make it look like they were crazier than they really are. Just like how someone hacked their twitter/facebook/yelp/tinder accounts.
edit- word.
imjohnk ยท 118 points ยท Posted at 18:32:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The waitress who was fired later did an AMA and said they actually were really crazy, not like the example shown at the beginning of the series but they were regularly rude to customers and Amy was often really pissed. Also the facts that they can't take orders and such things were true. The owner himself actually tried to attack someone with a knife after the episode aired. They are insane, their business is shit but the show exaggerated a bit because of people specifically coming in to complain.
greyjackal ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:23:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
AMA is here for those who were asking : https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1eegnm/former_waitress_katy_cipriano_from_amys_baking/
Mathgeek007 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:36:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
(psst, i think it was sarcasm)
EH6TunerDaniel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:12:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Link?
imjohnk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:24:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On my mobile so you'll have to Google it for yourself.
Zoranius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Link?
sergantawesom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Link to ama?
LunarChild ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 21:12:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Negative. Lived and worked right next to Amy's for years. They truly are that crazy. More like batshit insane. It's gone now btw, I think it's been gone for a little over a year or so. Maybe two.
livroselu ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:21:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
my friend and i have a theory that amys husband (the name escapes me) is a mafia member and shes his weird trophy wife--how far off are we?
LunarChild ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 21:34:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His name is Samy Bouzaglo, and you guys are right on the money. He even says it on camera because he's a giant idiot. Pretty sure he actually got deported because of it. He's an Israeli citizen and failed to divulge to the US about his criminal past, which included extortion and drug trafficking. So not exactly mafia, but definitely criminal of some sort.
Amy's was ALWAYS empty, like no one was ever there. My friends and I had a theory it was just a front for money laundering. After his comment on Hells Kitchen, pretty sure we were right.
just_some_babe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:06:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What did he say on camera? I missed that!
FoxyBrownMcCloud ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:32:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"I'm the gangsta, not you."
On its face, it seems like plain old tough talk, but in the context of other stuff you see in the episode, like Sammy yelling "What are you, crazy?!" when Amy tries calling the police, and the fact the servers aren't allowed to handle wine/liquor, or input orders into the system, and his "gangsta" statement seems more like a Freudian slip than tough talk.
shinypretty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really want an I'M THE GANGSTER, NOT YOU shirt, but without their logo on it.
LunarChild ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:38:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He told Gordon, "I'm the gangster, not you!" when they were having a screaming match. I knew when he said it that he was trying to be a badass but he was also genuinely an idiot and wasn't being facetious.
Draskuul ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:37:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every moment of that episode screamed money laundering front.
shinypretty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most amazing episode ever.
shinypretty ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:39:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Amy has done time in prison for identity theft.
Samy has done time in prison abroad for extortion.
Ain't no one gonna convince me there was no money-laundering going through ABC.
Delicateplace ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:41:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heard it was a Reddit or a Yelper who hacked them
AzdM8 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 19:15:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heard it was that hacker 4chan
throw-away_catch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well no it was the hacker Reddit. He's even more insane
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:47:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just be careful what you say. ABC might still be a little peeved about this. If you're not careful they'll contact the FBI. ""
Low_town_tall_order ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:20:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
User name kinda checks out
theboatleft ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:40:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you've watched the show and if you're a sane human being, I think you're going to realize there's no amount of editing you can do to make owners of a "restaurant" scream fuck you at the face of a customer and verbally assault them.
kerred ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:29:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My wife thought that the lady on Amy's Baking had a borderline personality disorder, and wondered if the studio did anything to help her. And if not, if anyone did anything to help her either get medicated or seek treatment. Or did everyone just call her crazy. Or is she well aware what she is doing and is just a bitch
Which I always wondered if they did a reality show where they took a bunch of people with depression and bipolar, and they took them all off their meds just to film how emotional they get. Would anyone ever question it
imjohnk ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:50:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I don't know because she seemed so out of touch with the reality that she could have a disorder, but it also could just be the fact that she never got told something was her fault and only got compliments. This way suddenly getting criticism would drive her crazy, what is still weird though.
6502C64 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:39:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was the best ep. Did you watch the follow up episode? Just as funny (sad?).
imjohnk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have only watched that episode because it got mentioned on Reddit. What is the follow-up then?
kaikid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I live 5 minutes from ABC. Never been. Never will be.
shinypretty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You won't get the chance to. They closed down awhile back.
SadSniper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha that thread was hilarious.
Funniest comment "God, I'd let Amy take a giant angry shit on my chest"
TheRealMcCoy95 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is a review on google and I swear it is written by Amy. Its all posh and shit saying how wonderful the business is and how polite the owners are. Pretty funny.
Destroyer_101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and even the fired girl (Katy) said that it was real.
thisishowiwrite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was reading about this again last night, researching an article on social media failures.
If it wasn't for their complete brain explosion on FB, I would have assumed Ramsey did some serious editing to make them look awful.
But nope, they really are that insane.
Taygr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look at this guy, he's like an online bully or something
DevilsAdvocate532 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We used to know the family that owned Amy's Baking Company - they were involved in the Jewish Community with my family - can confirm that they were always like that, even before they had the restaurant.
doradiamond ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
omg I LOVED that episode.
demarto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Speaking as someone who actually went there to eat before it closed down... The people who ran it were pretty crazy. Sammy (the guy from ABC/that episode) actually chased a dude with a knife just outside of the restaurant. People were being douches, but... Don't run at someone with a knife.
DM_me_yo_Pizza ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:09:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Weird, but true the girl (Katy) who got fired on that episode is now in Africa (Ghana) working at a mission.
Source: I went to college with her and shows people the video after you get to know her.
wolfman1911 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:01:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I watched that episode not too long ago, and the follow up episode as well. That shit was just surreal.
imjohnk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:51:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What do you mean with the follow up episode?
wolfman1911 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There was a later episode, maybe the season finale, where he looked back on the whole sordid affair. In addition, he sent some of his staff back to interview them again, and it was exactly what you think it would be like. I seem to recall that at one point they demanded money from the film crew.
Straydog1018 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:39:15 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And I'm pretty sure its still the only restaurant that Gordon flat out walked out of after deciding that there was no way he could help them. That episode was fascinating to watch. I mean Amy and her husband were the IDEAL reality show subjects because they were so fucking crazy, the producers and Gordon literally didn't have to do anything to get a solid hour of drama.
MericaSuitofFreedom ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:49:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Hotel Hell is also very real. The weird thing is that these shows have to leave out alot of relevant information as to why locals hate the owners of some of these places.
EDIT: places not people!
therakel749 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:24:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People owners tend to be unpopular.
MericaSuitofFreedom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:43:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my... yes they are totally meant places.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:32:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I loved watching Kitchen Nightmares and the shows seemed real. I was always curious about them.
verywidebutthole ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:01:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I obviously didn't work on the set but I've watched quite a bit of the show and my girlfriend made a habit of searching for the restaurants online. No kidding, maybe half of them were out of business and the other half had like 3 stars.
Also by the time I had seen a good chunk of episodes I saw myself rolling my eyes and knowing exactly what Ramsey was going to suggest. Usually there was some cleanliness concern, menu was too big, and turnaround time was too slow. Also the pre-fix evaluation seemed artificially bad and the fixed restaurant seemed artificially good. Like how was it that every single restaurant served him a bland, terrible, improperly cooked meal? It's fucking Gordon Ramsey...
kabukimon112 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:21:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There was that one episode where he finished his plate.
crappymathematician ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:37:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was in the UK version, which is a bit less....commercialized?
gbinasia ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:48:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
THe UK version was much better. Lots of good advice, and realistic business makeovers. Like: hey, put a sign there at the beginning of the trail that leads to your restaurant, or organize your workforce a little better. Or buy this piece of equipment. None of this 'have a good cry as a family, and come back the next day and everything is brand new'.
KSKaleido ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:03:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This one? Definitely my favorite episode of that show. I was really sad to hear her restaurant still ended up failing eventually :(
Draskuul ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:41:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I watch a lot of shows like this, big fan of Gordon and watched all his UK and US shows, but also stuff like Restaurant Impossible and Bar Rescue.
First, yeah most of the problems boil down to an arrogant asshole of an owner who is in way over their heads and won't admit it. For most of those they are doomed to failure no matter what is done.
Second, there are a few rare ones where people just need help getting back on their feet (more than one where the owner was absent for medical reasons or similar for a while and things went to shit in their absence, or natural disasters--Sandy and Katrina, etc). Those seem to do better once things get back on track now that the (more competent) owner is back in place.
verywidebutthole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree with all that. And to add I think Ramsey's show is way better than the admittedly few other ones I've seen. I think bar hopper is especially bad. I don't want to give people the impression I'm hating on the show, though I guess I kinda am. It's a good show.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:07:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
After watching the shows I looked up the restaurants online and you are right. I think more than half are out of business. They were probably destined to fail anyway no matter what.
I know that Ramsay is extremely critical about food and maybe rightly so but he can't expect every restaurant to cook his way all the time. He was on a talk show and the host asked him if he had ever eaten Girl Scout cookies. He said no so they gave him some. He literally leaned over his chair and spit it out on the floor. He said they were 'dreadful'. Can't please that man!!
MageFood ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:15:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
amazing race is real they filmed in my city for the canada version this year, glad i was at a friends place that was near the end point and i got some footage and even who won that part of the race. I could post it but then i don't want to be sued or anything. xD
ShadowBanTeller ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:56:06 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What the fuck? Why the fuck would you be sued? Are you retarded?
Dirtylittlesecret88 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:09:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This reminds of a documentary on the show called "real world" The show in its first season was losing viewers and failing but the producers decided to leave something (I think it was a magazine but can't remember anymore) that would piss off a cast member so they would fight another member. I think this began the whole producers moving things here and there to create chaos.
greeninj ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:03:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Watch Cinema Verite. This is the first reality show and right from the start they were purposely causing drama. Here is a movie about the show from the 70's. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinema_Verite_(2011_film)
Dirtylittlesecret88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:12:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting I figured it couldn't be the first to try those kind of tactics.
thechairinfront ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:36:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I watched one episode the other day. He moved a piece of furniture and there were brown spots where the legs were and he's like "That's mold!" I'm like, that's rust. Then he did a bacteria test on a shower curtain right in the crevasse where it's most certainly not going to be cleaned and it was like 5,000 something so he went and pulled the fire alarm.
grayfox663 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:02:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the episode Gordon Ramsay said (in his AMA) was his favorite because it's the one he truly believes he made the biggest impact on.
thechairinfront ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:48:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just spent all day reading his AMA and watching that Amys Bakery Co. episode. Thanks!
eat_me_now ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:56:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just watched that, I think it was Hotel Hell though.
ForgetfulDoryFish ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:22:40 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah there aren't usually shower curtains in a restaurant kitchen
Pascalwb ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:19:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The amazing race is only reality show I ever watched, only thing I hate about it is sound editing. That stupid honk sound every time they show some road is annoying.
N2O1138 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:50:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Surprised to see Twinning mentioned. I went to school with Winston and Bennett... well for a year until they got kicked out.
AmishAvenger ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:07:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Another issue is shows with prizes. There's a lot of laws surrounding those, so you can't just fake competitions.
swoofswoofles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's very true. We had a whole compliance department on the great escape to make sure everyone was complying with the rules and that it was fair.
YeahThanksTubs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:08:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What happens on the amazing race though when a couple get the last two seats on a flight but the film crew are travelling with them?
imnotquitedeadyet ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:50:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to LOVE Duck Dynasty. For about a month when it first came out. After that I couldn't help but see how insanely scripted and terrible it was. Mix that with the grandpa Phil being a raging homophobe, and I decided the show wasn't for me
nokarmawhore ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:24:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Si is fucking great tho.
adambomb625 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What do you mean about the remodels being just on the surface?
grodgeandgo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:10:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
swoofswoofles ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:14:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They do it over 12 hours overnight. How much are you really going to do with that? They just paint and add in some big piece that they reveal later in the episode.
hypnofed ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I understand that Mantracker falls into this category too.
Yardsale420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lx in tha house
hellpark ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know 2 of the girls on Twinning and they basically told me most of it was scripted, and when they started hooking up with someone they told them to keep doing it.
greenday61892 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I miss Great Escape so much! Sick show that really should've lasted more than 1 season.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you trying to tell me Jersey Shore wasn't faked? I find that hard to believe it's obviously faked in some areas.
Kahzgul ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm an editor for reality TV and this is the best response I've seen in this thread. It all depends on the show, and my experience reflects exactly this description.
quinpon64337_x ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i read a thing once with video showing one of the girls from jersey shore doing multiple takes of getting in and out of a vehicle so i guess even that was scripted
IceWindWolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My question with kitchen nightmares is does he do more than just remodel and remenu? I mean the guy seems awesome but I always feel like they gloss over the fact that almost everyone on the show is incompetent with the books and having a higher land value just makes taxes higher, not the the books any cleaner.
shinypretty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've always wondered about KN. I figure Chef wouldn't put up with much fakery anyway, having watched his UN version. Thank you for confirming!
FanOFante ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My sister's old best friend and her twin were on the show. I never saw the show or even spent much time with the twin, but her friend was reality show gold in real life. She was crazy and crazy funny. It wouldnt be a challenge to edit her into something entertaining.
cherriessplosh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I completely understand an accept that.
The one and only thing I think reality TV should not do is intentionally distort or influence the results of shows. I know that sometimes to make a good TV show they need to edit, especially to compress timeframes and on a show like the amazing race to compensate for things like production delays.
Very happy that you say that amazing race is minimally-interfered with, it's one of my favorite shows.
DevilsAdvocate532 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:21:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friends Adam and Cory were on Twinning! They said they loved it but it was essentially like you said: pretty straightforward competition but every so often they played God and controlled them and the environment to exacerbate social issues, etc.
blindwuzi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So you held a flashlight while adults did stuff? haha jk ron burgundy...
G8kpr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:06:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Speaking of Amazing Race, here is an AMA from one of the Season 4 contestant
robhaswell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:08:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A friend worked on Geordie Shore, a UK version, and she told me that a lot of it is setup. For example, when they go clubbing, they rent out a club in the middle of the day and fill it with extras. I can't imagine how surreal that must be.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:29:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad you mentioned Jersey Shore. The early episodes were very real, it's evident from the fact that they blur out so many faces (even the faces of some girls they brought back to the house once). They literally just throw them onto the shore, get loaded, and party. That shit was the bomb.
genepoolchlorinator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:41:21 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People sitting in a room and figuring out how to create drama. My sister needs to move into this line of work- she's a natural.
vimescarrot ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:05:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...You can literally tell the scenes you're watching are fake just by watching them. The editing of the conversations is so blatant.
The overall facts might be true but every individial scene is fake as hell. Unscripted, but edited beyond recognition.
swoofswoofles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can agree with that, but there is really no way to make it real in regards to post. You'll always be bias in someway. They are heavy handed with editing, but it's not like they are planting things to move the story along.
vimescarrot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:50:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They do, though...They put in expressions and reactions that weren't in the original conversation, to imply a characterization that doesn't exist.
dirtymoney ยท -22 points ยท Posted at 17:05:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
so... Ramsay is as much of an insufferable prick as portrayed?
TDIfan241 ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 17:30:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's hardly a prick, but from what I understand he does care a lot about his work. He's actually a really nice guy!
lilriri ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:40:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I always got the feeling that he was a good guy. On kitchen nightmares he only acts dick-ish to the people who are acting super irrational or don't want to listen to him. He just gives stern lectures to the better behaved people, and you can tell that he really cares about helping them improve.
dirtymoney ยท -18 points ยท Posted at 17:34:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So... he is faking it then?
TDIfan241 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:44:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not quite. He's a super caring guy, but cares a lot about his work. So,as long as you don't mess up your food but too badly, then he's cool with you. But he does get mad, again, if you fuck up your food really bad or if you don't listen to him.
dirtymoney ยท -21 points ยท Posted at 17:48:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
so he's a passionate insufferable prick?
TDIfan241 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:20:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure your missing the point. He's a nice guy on and off screen. If you watch Masterchef Junior, you'll see he is actually a good guy who really cares about the kids and doesn't like to see them upset. On Hell's Kitchen they all have a good time when they aren't in the kitchen and hanging out with Chef Ramsey.
shinypretty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:44:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh Lord, watching him with the MCJ kids is priceless. He is so sweet to them.
dirtymoney ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 18:34:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
but he acts like a psycho.
There's no excuse for it. Either he plays it up for the TV, or he doesnt.
Which is it?
TDIfan241 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:44:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Imagine you gave people the chance of a life time to come and work with you (a household name at this point). They claim to be amazing and the best of the best but make very simple and obvious mistakes (not communicating, letting something be sent out raw or cold, not knowing how to chop up something). You'd be pretty pissed off too.
And you act like you've never been really pissed off with people. He is human, you know. Sometimes people get really pissed off at others, and sometimes they are genuine people. It just depends on if he's been set off by something. I normally only see him get pissed at simple mistakes that should have been covered in cooking 101. And if you watch kitchen nightmares he does want to help people, otherwise he would turn up his nose and leave at the first sign of trouble. But he has helped people be better at cooking, and has remodeled their restaurant to make it look nicer.
dirtymoney ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 18:46:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So... it is ok then to act like a fuckin psycho? Is basically what you are saying. Because you are passionate about cooking.
Such a bullshit copout.
Professionalism. Act professional. Don't scream at people like a nutjob.
TDIfan241 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:54:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some people need to be yelled at. I'm sure he has in the past told people "hey, next time do this" but the way the editing makes it look, he looks like an awful person. Some of the things he's says is out of pure annoyance and isn't yelling, but the way it is edited makes it look like he's screaming at those making the food. You can turn the mic up, cut to shots that were of people turning that happened either before or after the shot, throw in some flashy sound effects or add music to the background. In all honesty, it's all in the way it is edited. That's why he looks like a "psycho." Most of the time he raises his voice because it can get loud in the kitchen and he wants to make sure everyone can hear. If he's going to scream he takes the person outside or out of the shot.
spacepiratetabby ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:17:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It doesn't sound like that person has actually watched much of Ramsay's television. I thought he was an angry psycho too, just based on the commercials I'd seen for his shows. But then I started watching the shows and realized he's really not like that, he's mostly really nice to people and only gets upset when it's necessary. Like an episode of Kitchen Nightmares when he witnessed a cook pick some chicken up off the floor and continue to use it and he was all "what the fuck are you doing??" That's a totally reasonable time to yell at someone, because seriously, what the fuck were they doing?
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:07:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Professionalism is being brutally honest with people when they're in serious danger of hurting someone with the food they sent out. That's the only time I see him genuinely angry on the show.
dirtymoney ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:09:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you can be brutally honest without acting like a psycho.
Hero17 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:32:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So you think he's a psycho is what we're getting at here right?
sisyphusmyths ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:48:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, it's played up for TV. You can easily see the difference if you watch the British version of Kitchen Nightmares (in which he's merely snarky) with the American version, in which he comes across as a complete asshole for the first half of each episode.
If you want to get a sense of what he's like, go read his AMAs here on Reddit, he had one just a few days ago.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:54:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Again? I remember his first one which was awesome
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He did a second one a few days ago, you should check it out
StabbyPants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:32:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. The U.K. Version has a much different tone
swoofswoofles ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:38:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well just keep in mind the crew absolutely loves him. He just knows how to make good tv.
UniverseBomb ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:29:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Spotted the guy who's never worked a kitchen. Ramsay is actually low to mid tier as far as asshole chefs go.
mercurywaxing ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:40:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend who is a personal chef and worked with him two times. If you mess up in the kitchen he will rant and yell a bit but she said he's nowhere near even the top 10 asshole's she's worked with. He was assured, expected you to be professional and know your job. Everyone liked working with him because he was a pure pro.
The assholes were chefs who were either out of their depth and relied on everyone else to do everything without direction and a couple of Food Network people who have become detached from real kitchens.
EightsOfClubs ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:52:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno - you watch enough of his stuff you can see the "prickishness" is pretty much a character he puts on for very specific shows.
I mean, you watch him on Master Chef (especially Junior) and the dude is just really genuine towards the contestants.
Quill- ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:32:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's also more emphasised on his American shows
bacon_tastes_good ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, if you watch Hotel Hell, he's tough but just a sweetheart.
cyclonewolf ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:10:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Watch a show that is not catering to American audiences. It's played up because that is what gets views in America unfortunately. He seems like a really cool guy otherwise, if you like cooking shows without the drama, master chef Jr is a good one.
shinypretty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only if you keep a dirty walk-in, you PIG!
SatanMD ยท 760 points ยท Posted at 18:22:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm late but whatever. Pitbulls and Parolees on Animal Planet. I used to work at the main warehouse where they filmed everything. Not sure if I'm actually on the show at all but if I am I'm just in the background scratching my ass.
Everyone that works there only tolerates filming because it's more money for the dogs. The camera crews would try and get people to recreate things they missed but most of us weren't very cooperative. Everyone on the show and in the rest of the staff really just wants the best for the dogs. From what I have seen anything that was staged we're things that had actually happened and the camera crew wasn't around for.
The dogs there are amazing. All the horrible things they had been through and they remain so lovable. I miss all my furry buddies there.
blueeyesofthesiren ยท 77 points ยท Posted at 19:34:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Love the work she does. And she's so practical about if that dog would be a good fit with that home instead of just trying to get them out the door.
Dangasdang ยท 96 points ยท Posted at 00:34:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think my favorite moment was when she brought a dog to a home where the family had prepared for months to get it, and had everything all set and had the kids all prepared, but then the moment she found out that their family small dog was territorial and the second snapped at the pitbull she immediately took it away and told them it wasn't going to work out. The kids were crying and the father was trying to bargain, but she just kept saying, "Sorry but this isn't the proper environment for a dog of this background,"
Integrity instead of a feel good story, I love it.
iwanttobeapenguin ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 02:01:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes dog introductions take a while. Seems unfair to give up so quickly when it very well could have worked out.
Skipaspace ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 06:00:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If the dog was abused or used in a dog fighting ring, you don't want to risk it. Not every dog fits into every home.
iwanttobeapenguin ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:42:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree, sometimes it doesn't work out, absolutely. But introducing dogs is a large part of my job, and sometimes the initial couple minutes are tense, and then they're best friends right after. Not all dogs are good at greeting, but are friendly after the fact.
Dangasdang ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 03:34:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But on the flipside, if the other dog provoked the pitbull enough during that time, the little dog would have easily been killed.
Ichigomuse ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 21:18:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That makes me happy. I'm glad they're so real and actually in it to help the dogs. I wish I could work with them. Love it!
SatanMD ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:20:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well if you're ever around there they let volunteers come help walk dogs every day I believe. It's a blast too. Those dogs are great.
killerrainbows ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 22:40:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm so happy it's real. The show does seem so genuine and I love the idea of what they're trying to do.
HrBerg ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:03:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tia tried to do an AMA once. She got about 5 questions in, and had to go on a dog rescue. She never came back (I think, she may have much later), probably because the thread was full of idiots who kept asking 'why are pitbulls so dangerous? They suck hur durr.'
SatanMD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:31:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't even know that. Reddit kinda sucks sometimes. But that woman is the most busy person I have ever seen. Pretty much everyone knows to stay the fuck out of her way.
HrBerg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, my mom loves her work. I made the mistake of showing her the AMA without reading it first, as I just happened upon it. Thanks to that, she thought I was like the type of person who goes on 4chan.
SatanMD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:53:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh jeez.
brahhhbies ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:22:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
love pitbulls and parolees
SatanMD ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:24:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tanya was my boss and she is the shit. Earl is also awesome. They're all great though.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:25:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I cant imagine anyone thinks that show is scripted. Literally everything in it looks real
Roseycheeksrockwell ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:38:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This makes me so happy to read. I love knowing that the purpose is truly for the pups!
ultrab0ii ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:54:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ooh now I want to know if the dog whisperer is legit or nah
crazed3raser ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:27:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yay! I'm so happy that show is mostly real at least in their intentions. My favorite reality show by far.
SleevieNicks ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:48:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love that show! That everyone/everything is pretty genuine really does come through. I'm happy to know that you guys are the real deal :)
SatanMD ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:32:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey man, I just cleaned dog shit for a while. Those guys are great.
drewm916 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:53:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This post makes me happy.
majorfoodie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:52:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OMG! I am so glad that is real! This has made my day!
Thank you for what you did with them there.
Mercuryn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:00:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even Satan loves puppies...
SatanMD ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:23:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
DUDE FOR REAL.
gnarbone ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:15:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've only seen one episode, but what those people do is amazing. Giving a second chance to dogs and people who need it? Who cares if it's rigged.
Chocolatefix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:27 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm so glad reading this. I always give reality shows the side eye. To hear she is legit I'm going to try to do more for her organization.
HighOnGoofballs ยท 1003 points ยท Posted at 15:23:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
House hunter type shows have usually already bought the place that wins
Rowdy10 ยท 876 points ยท Posted at 15:31:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a requirement to be on House Hunters that you are already closing on a house. It's free advertising for the agent and a way to be on TV for the couple.
That being said I still watch the shit out of those shows. Interesting to see what $x gets you around the world
HighOnGoofballs ยท 464 points ยท Posted at 15:32:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm torn between getting a beachfront bargain or living Alaska
PM_Me_Rude_Haiku ยท 565 points ยท Posted at 15:55:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always like the ones where rich people are like "Oh! I can't decide between this place for 3 million, or that other place for 2.5 million. What a dilemma!"
My heart bleeds for the poor poppets.
HighOnGoofballs ยท 668 points ยท Posted at 16:05:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm more thrown by the 23yo couple buying $900k place.
[deleted] ยท 831 points ยท Posted at 16:18:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"I'm a teacher, my wife doesn't work, and we have 2 kids. We have a max budget of $1.1 million."
How?!
Dr_Ghamorra ยท 482 points ยท Posted at 16:27:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a retail associate and my wife works part-time as a barista. We have a budget of $100k and want 3 bedrooms, 2.5 baths, and update kitchen.
Buys house $40k over their budget.
[deleted] ยท 56 points ยท Posted at 18:07:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:53:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
depending on size, that house would 1-3mil where I live lol. too much money in Cali.
iamjomos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
500k would buy you half a house where I live
abstractwhiz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It would buy you a third of a small house in the Bay Area. :(
RobotSnake ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:35:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The $40k was spent on figuring out how to have half a bath.
royalhawk345 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:33:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Where can you get a 3 bedroom house for 140k?
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:43:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
South Carolina
LacksMass ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:10:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wisconsin.
OneGoodRib ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 21:16:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
1979.
GertieFlyyyy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:02:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Florida.
UCFJoe2 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:08:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. My first house was a 3/2/2, 1800 sq feet and we paid 150K in Orlando. Really nice house. My current house was 250k, it's 4/2.5/3, 2800 sq feet.
GertieFlyyyy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:53:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
3/2.5 off-grade on 1.5 acres. 50k just outside Jacksonville in Fernandina Beach. The smaller your area the better the deals.
Merakos1 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:01:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Utah. Really anywhere that isn't beach front or big city living. There are places for 140k in NY and yes even California.
Militant_Monk ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:03:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Midwest.
jivemasta ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:55:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ohio, my friends just bought a 4 bed 2 bath house with a huge garage(like the kind you work on cars in not just park them). Around here if you go outside of a "big" town the properties are dirt cheap.
kanooka ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:55:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
rural indiana, you can find 4 bedrooms for less than 100k.
LavernicaDeLuca ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:43:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not just rural. You can find plenty of 3-4 bedroom houses in the Evansville area for ~$100k. They might need work but they're out there. Something like 45% of Evansville residents rent so the housing market is a buyer's paradise.
theflesh101 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:45:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Iowa :)
SlackerAtWork ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:08:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Western New York.
PureAntimatter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:12:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pittsburgh and its suburbs. I am in a 2b/2b in the suburbs that cost 85k 7 years ago. Currently shopping for 3b/2b with 5-10 acres for under 200k.
KingNFM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
South Colorado
TheLastDrifter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Michigan gets you more than that for that money
Myfourcats1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Chesterfield county, va. Next door. $118k. Good schools. Lots of kids in the neighborhood. Good ol hardworking people as my realtor put it.
WhitePineBurning ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Grand Rapids, MI -- more like 150 and up. Almost all the neighborhoods on the northwest, northeast, midtown, and Eastown are doing well. Houses sell within a week and often over the listing price. Even the west side is seeing a revival.
http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/869-3rd-St-NW_Grand-Rapids_MI_49504_M38048-50297
Zaidswith ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Flyover country. Any state without coastline.
Born-Confused ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oklahoma
dragonfly120 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:02:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Iowa
Darth_Corleone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:11:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can have 2 in my neighborhood (northeast Florida) for that much money.
CeeDiddy82 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:56:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oklahoma
Thinks_Too_Logically ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:23:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Places where people don't want to live.
sbroll ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:43:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That will be a messy divorce, callin it!
AnniversaryRoad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:12:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Where the hell can you get all that for $100K, let alone upwards of even $150K? I live in one of the most "affordable" cities in Canada and spent $260K (in a "cheaper" good neighbourhood) last summer and got 3 bedrooms, 1.5 bathrooms, no dining room, a weird L-shaped kitchen from 15 years ago with no dishwasher and tons of small jobs around the property to fix. Before the Recession about five years ago, that house was worth $325K.
sirixamo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:29:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then that city isn't that affordable. Pretty easily done in rural Midwestern US, you just have to be willing to put up with 4 seasons.
dewky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd move to somewhere cheaper if I could get a decent job elsewhere.
Eterrossy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why 2 and a half baths?
sirixamo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:28:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Half bath is usually just toilet and sink, it's for visiting guests that aren't spending the night, it's very common. Imagine you have 3 bedrooms on the second floor of your house, one shared bath, one master bath, then you probably want a bathroom downstairs so your guests (and you) don't have to run upstairs in the middle of the day.
Eterrossy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:26:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, OK.
Myfourcats1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can get that in my neighborhood.
Bojangthegoatman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow you can actually get a house like that for that cheap?
abstractwhiz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:12:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Congratulations, you now understand one of the main reasons we had a housing crisis.
HashtagNotJewish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And they always seem to have that $40k :/
wmstewart66 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:04 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget the GRANITE!
Eat_The_Muffin ยท 258 points ยท Posted at 18:10:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
No.
neverbuythesun ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:40:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's why I live in a caravan with all the windows shut in the car park at Swansea airport.
MarcelRED147 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:26:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can I move in? I promise I'll only use 2.5 of the bathrooms in the caravan.
ZuluBaz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:21:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL Swansea has an airport
neverbuythesun ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:25:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was originally going to use Leeds Bradford airport, where dreams go to die, but it's not in Wales.
TheLittleWinstonBaby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, Leeds Bradford airport is a really handy place if you're looking to get out of Leeds and Bradford. Worked for me.
TedW ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:20:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Get close enough to the runway of an international airport and watch the property values plummet.
I imagine the same goes for being near a whale corpse in the tropics, but.. I can't speak from experience there.
dotnetdotcom ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:13:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then of they actually find one that fits the bill, it gets rejected because the kitchen countertop is the wrong shade.
Cherrytop ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:30:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm so glad that I'm not the only person who noticed that!
I have this list in my head of some traits that I will have, or some events that will occur in my life, that will indicate to me that I am probably an old person.
One of those markers is everything looking financially out of whack. In other words, 23 year olds with a home buying budget of 'only' $400k.
It is still entirely possible though that I am getting old. Candy bars are well over that $1.00 mark I'd previously set out.
Halvus_I ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:45:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Family money.
sickofyour ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:34:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, if the show is filmed in Vancouver, their market is a bubble. Housing prices quadrupled in about 12 years, so if you bought a home for $250K that home is now worth $1 million. So, if a couple like that is selling their current home, their budget makes sense.
san_serifs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How? Using financial voodoo.
eromitlab ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We just got married, we're just starting out, our budget is only $550k. Fucking how? That's not how the world works!
dewky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here that's actually a reality unless you want an apartment an hour outside of the city where we currently are.
g3istbot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:47:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"I'm a disabled veteran using a broken oar as a leg. My wife has a crippling retail shopping addiction and does not work. We have 6 kids and my parents living with us. Our budget is $150 a week"
NotThatEasily ยท 239 points ยท Posted at 16:21:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We're trying to decide if we should spend $850k to fix our house, or buy a new one for $1.8mm.
These people can't be older than 25... What the fuck are they doing?
Me, every time I watch one of these shows.
HighOnGoofballs ยท 172 points ยท Posted at 16:22:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not to mention that a $500k house on a $600k budget does not usually mean you have $100k for upgrades. Unless you're paying cash, mortgages do not work that way.
NotThatEasily ยท 89 points ยท Posted at 16:35:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We only have a $350k budget for upgrades and repairs to this house.
I'm sorry, did I hear that correctly? They ONLY have $350k sitting around for upgrading their home? For $350k, I could pay off my car, my wife's car, my house, and build a kick-ass deck on the back of my paid-off house... With money to spare.
I know my wife and I do pretty well, but I certainly don't make that kind of money. I wish I did though.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:49:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You.......Piece.......Of..........Shit................ =)
(In realness as a 30 year old who still rents and owns a 5k piece of shit car, congrats on your success!)
NotThatEasily ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:17:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, it wasn't meant as a humble brag, but I can see that now.
I'm 29, by the way. However, I'm married and we have two incomes.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:30:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was just busting your balls, and I was being sincere in my congrats!!
psinguine ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:34:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No no no. They only have a budget of six figures. Nobody ever said they actually had the cash. The bank does.
chaiguy ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:48:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And that is why I think homes are still over priced. Almost no one is living in a house that they can actually, truly afford.
essieecks ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:22:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Usually that means they have something like $200k available, and have qualified for a $400k loan. They can put $100k-$200k into the house. The bank is fine doing a mortgage for the remaining, since if they fail to make payments, there's enough principle in the house that they won't lose money if they have to foreclose.
If they find a $500k house, they have $100k of their savings to put into the house, and they've already budgeted for the monthly payments on a $400k loan.
BurntButterExplosion ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:32:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, you can get a mortgage that includes a renovation allowance, depending on who does your financing. They're not common, but they're not rare, either.
Source: I've done that.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:40:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you are using either the Federal Housing Administration's 203(k) mortgage or Fannie Mae's HomeStyle Renovation mortgage.
Prsop2000 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:02:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah the way they word it sounds like you get to pocket what's left over after you buy. Nope, they loan you what you're paying, not what they approved you for folks!
I don't get it... Unless the people they are putting on the show are independently wealthy, I can't imagine they would be putting a large sum down as a down payment AND have $100-250K sitting in their accounts JUST for upgrades etc.
The_Count_Lives ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:27:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've always wondered why they don't make this a part of the show, since it's one of the most natural questions people want to know about the buyers.
If you've got a trust fund, I'd love to hear that. I won't judge.
lightwell ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:46:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of the shows I watch doesn't outright say it, but it's in Canada. It makes the dollar amounts make more sense
MicCheck123 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:32:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
A lot of HGTV shows are from Canada. Property Brothers, Design on a Dime, and Love it or List it are three that come to mind immediately.
I can often tell from the accents.
June1111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:52:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
shrug Just split it between our 15 credit cards. It'll work itself out.
parkesto ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:26:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am 32, wife is 35 and we just bought a million dollar home, dunno how the fuck a legit 23 y/o can do 900k w/o parental donations.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:03:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Brad and Janet are trying to find a livable home for 1.5 million." Livable? I should hope so.
lady_jaye ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:18:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't watch these with my wife anymore because I can't hold back exclaiming, "Hooray! A happy ending for the rich people!" in my best Zoidberg voice.
vonniesaur ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:45:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've been addicted to HGTV since we got basic cable (yes, it came with our internet package) and I'm more surprised with the homes people can get with under $300k! Where I live, a tear-down home is $1M so I'm always in disbelief when couples are looking for a 2000 sqft home for $200k.
baitaozi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The housing market where I am (Texas) is nuts! You can buy a 3500+ sq ft house for $300,000 easy. They're everywhere in the suburbs.
Bnfrze ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:16:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey! Alaska has great beach front property!
sbroll ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:42:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Alaska is so intriguing. It paints the fantasy of living in a cold, wilderness tundra but makes it sound so appealing and awesome. I had heard at one time (years ago and never fact checked) that they paid people a certain amount of money to move to Alaska, thats just crazy to think about. Fun to dream about what life would be like in a state most people know very little about. (besides cold and igloos of course)
dreamqueen9103 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:18:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"She wants a three story home with room for renters in the country, he wants a one bed room condo in the city, can they find a compromise?"
No they fucking can't because they want opposite things like they've ever even discussed what they want before.
beartorus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From someone that lived in Alaska for 16, Alaska is not as cheap as most people thing.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Beachfront Bargain Hunt! My mom has done 3 episodes now as a realtor. Her latest just aired a few days ago :D
ImGayHmu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:22:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the houses in the Alaska shows are usually not actually for sale, they're just for show
opus_4_vp ยท 86 points ยท Posted at 15:46:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did already know this but it doesn't really ruin these show for me. I always try to figure out which house they have already bought.
bexyrex ยท 138 points ยท Posted at 15:52:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep same. And fixer upper is my fav because even tho Johanna's design style never changes it's bloody gorgeous anyway and gives me future ideas of what I want.
opus_4_vp ยท 78 points ยท Posted at 15:57:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ha! Watching Fixer Upper right now.
I saw a thing where they said that people always ask if the homeowners get to keep the furniture - because it's never their own. The answer is unfortunately no. They do have the option to buy the furniture though. And they do remodel the entire house, but the rooms that are not featured just get cursory work and a fresh coat of paint.
LunaFalls ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:59:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I fucking love Fixer Upper. I do always wonder if they get to keep the furniture. You say they don't, that sucks. What is their incentive to be on TV then? Do they get paid? I always assumed they would get the furniture.
opus_4_vp ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:02:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I found the furnishings question here
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:35:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Silverflash-x ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:05:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My biochemistry professor was on the first season. He said it was all legit and that what you saw on TV was pretty much what happened.
HashtagNotJewish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always wondered about the furniture simply because obviously, the people already have a couch and a kitchen table and whatnot.
mndtrp ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:01:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, if I was looking to remodel my house in a certain style, I would look for people who excel at that style.
I do find Fixer Upper to be one of the better shows in that vein. Aside from the one mildly over-dramatic issue that requires a call to the homeowner, everything else seems laid back and realistic.
TheTrollys ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:16:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's usually a farm sink in the kitchen and a pergola in the back yard.
Future_of_Amerika ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:29:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're forgetting about the shiplap and distressed wood!๐
TheTrollys ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:53:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh and French doors too.
modom ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:46:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And giant letters or words on the walls. Mismatched letters too.
Cherrytop ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:33:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I LOVE those two together! Chip and Joanna are so much fun to watch.
jamesfordsawyer ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:56:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hope you want ship lap and a barn door.
Future_of_Amerika ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:29:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or French doors and distressed wood!
bexyrex ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:49:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
French doors shiplap and distressed wood sign me up ๐
VashMM ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:42:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite one of those shows is Rehab Addict. This is probably because she does a lot of work in the Twin Cities and I have actually driven around and looked at a few. Living in a super old Minneapolis house myself, I like the fact that she keeps them relatively original.
sirixamo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:34:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never seen the show but live in Minneapolis, I'll have to check it out.
neutron_stars ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:46:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love Rehab Addict! It's my remedy for shows like Property Brothers who come in and rip out gorgeous original wood floors because there's a little damage in the corner. I think I spent too much time watching This Old House as a kid and now I just want to watch old homes be made pretty again instead of gutting them to make it open concept.
GangBangMeringue ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:59:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And also, that girl is smokin' hot!
corrupti0N ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely the most Bae of all these house shows.
jgirlie99 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:57:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She really loves cased openings and tacky-ass letter art. But I still keep watching lol
Inevitablename ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:14:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If she cut out that letter art her homes would improve by a factor of ten
sirixamo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The people don't keep the decorations anyway.
shinypretty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:26:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I get so tired of that. White white white white white, with an occasional antler or something brown thrown in.
Red4rmy1011 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That show would be more fun if I could stand the two of them. I cant explain it but the oozing southernness makes it impossible to watch.
bexyrex ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:09:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol I'm from the south, but i live mostly in the northeast ATM. I don't like the south but I do love chip and johanna's personalities. I think they're both very funny animated hospitable people. And that's likely the southerner in me speaking. Northerners are too... uptight.
Red4rmy1011 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:24:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a Russian immigrant who lived in the north until moving to Maryland I find southerners too friendly. Which is weird because I love the Midwest sort of "we are all in this shitty world together" friendliness but cant stand southern friendliness because it feels fake and patronizing. I guess I like the uptight or easy joking style of northerners.
That said their personality feels overly sweet to the point where I cant stand it. Im weird like that.
edspencer85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've long suspected she's a psychopath. It's those cold, dead eyes.
Pustuli0 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:54:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's usually pretty easy to tell which house they've already bought because it's the one without furniture.
Jacsmom ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:28:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Usually it's the one without furniture. They already bought it.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:46:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I fucking loves those shows. It's totally my guilty pleasure. I cannot tell you how many times I've said, "That cost X dollars!?!?" Insane
Robin____Sparkles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:53:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have you seen Insane Pools? The budget for those things is like $300k+
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know I've seen a pool one, but not sure of the name. I can only assume there are several of them. But yeah, they look REALLY cool though. The one I've seen they typically try to do a "natural" style, which I really like. But my god the cost. It's one of those things, I just can't imagine spending that much even if I had it.
BenAdaephonDelat ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:54:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea for these types of shows it's okay. People don't watch them for the drama of which house they're gonna pick, and the producers wouldn't want to wait around for escrow to finish.
OD_Emperor ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:44:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly. My mom is a realtor and has been asked to be on the show before, however she declined and another agent from her office went on instead.
It's all very fake, as most times there isn't just 3 homes to show a couple or family but much more than that with weeks or sometimes months in between finding something alright and finding something better and actually closing. My mother has been working with a lovely couple for 10 years (!) and they only just now bought something.
While it's all scripted, still a great show to see what you could get.
relevant84 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:33:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know of someone who was on one of those shows, ended up buying the first house they showed him before even showing him other houses, had him go and film going to two other houses and acting like he was maybe interested in buying them, and weighing the pros and cons of the 3 houses.
scrappytheboss ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:10:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Those shows don't matter as much though. I don't care what they buy. I'm just there to see some cool houses and judge how long the couple's marriage will last
cl4ire_ ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:09:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The amount of variations of House Hunters is getting to be a bit sickening. House Hunters International is kind of interesting, but there are so many others now that follow the same format, it feels like they copy each other almost word for word.
Joker4479 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:57:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tiny House Hunters is amazing though.
cl4ire_ ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:07:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some of those people going into a tiny house amaze me, especially those with kids. I remember watching one where the parents had 2 daughters, maybe around 10-12 years old (I don't recall exactly). I remember commenting to my husband that those girls, as they became pre-teens and teenagers would eventually want a lot more privacy than a tiny house could provide. Same with other families with more than 1 kid.
saladspoons ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:43:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would love to see a Tiny House Hunters episode followup a year or two later to see if the people could actually stand living in it ...
cl4ire_ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:06:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha...exactly. If it was me, I'd be annoyed when someone breathed!
missartteacher ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:39:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes! Love that show! I know with all the crap I own, it won't be feasible for me, but I would love to have a bad-ass tiny house where the stairs had hidden storage.
methuzia ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:27:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My mom likes the show, but notices discrepancies in the background rather frequently. There was one episode where the family absolutely needed to be in the new home in time for Christmas, because Christmas! Holiday episode, how important family is, snow is great, Santa for my four year old during all of the discussions with the buyers.
The after they purchased filming was them opening presents in a house decked with winter Wonderland Christmas theme stuff, wearing thick sweaters and drinking cocoa to fight the chill of winter. But in the background of their present opening scene is three Gardeners working their tails off, drenched with sweat in clearly summer heat. From the outside scenes there hasn't been snow in months.
whatwouldbuffydo ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:36:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except from Escape to the Country, a U.K. TV programme in which I've never seen the couple successfully buy one of the four houses shown. The show usually ends with a black screen saying 'Kevin and Tracy's offer for house number 3 was unsuccessful, but remain hopeful about their property search'
finnw ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:45:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then you think "hey that's sneaky, the seller is using the show to advertise, and hoping to attract viewers that way. They were never going to sell."
Then you realise it was filmed 3 years ago, so probably too late anyway.
DoWeNeedAnAppForThat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:00:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My dad's friend applied to be on 'Escape to the Country' but by the time the production company responded, they had already bought a house and relocated.
The production company had them on the show regardless, because they didn't have enough suitable candidates- they just had to pretend that they were prospective buyers. It was really stupid to watch because they had to find 'faults' with each house to justify their lack of interest in all the options, that y'know wasn't "Well, we've already found and bought a house, and have been living there for months!"
basic_bitch ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:53:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend that was a cameraman for the "naked house hunters" garbage show that was on. He said the people are random as hell, usually not couples and definitely not actually interested in buying the houses they're looking at. But the show doesn't censor out anything, instead uses carefully placed objects, which is why he really enjoyed working on the show.
poser4life ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:27:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This was a real show ?
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:57:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend that was on House Hunters! They had already owned their home for a couple of months, and they asked her to be rude to be rude to her husband when they were "looking at houses".
Dnuts175 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:55:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My wife's cousin was on that show. After her successful audition they told her to call them back after she closed on a new place.
calior ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:39:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We filmed our episode a few months ago. It's just not feasible to follow a couple around for months while they hunt for a house. But we found the experience to be pretty close to reality. We only looked at houses in our budget, they didn't let us look at anything before filming so our reactions would be more natural, and all of the houses were very similar to what we had actually looked at. Unfortunately, we are in a very competitive market, so there was no way to look at houses we had considered because they were already sold by filming. It was a fun experience, and they really made us stick to what we had said during our interviews- they were more concerned with consistency than drama.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:45:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A builder wrote about how fake HGTV's shows about buying tiny houses are.
missartteacher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like the Tiny House Hunters show
hopefulpenguin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This happened to me, recently sold my house and the real estate agent contacts me the next day asking if we can "stage" the house for a tv show (not the one you mentioned) It was the same sort of setup, they look through three houses and buy the one they like the most.
I didn't go ahead with it as they only gave us one days notice I had to visit Ikea to buy some crap for my new house so couldn't do it.
greyjackal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Location, Location, Location (a British show) isn't like that. A friend of mine was on it last year - and has a follow up episode being filmed this weekend iirc - and he really was a picky so-and-so about his criteria :D Ended up buying the last option presented to him but there was no pre-planning at all.
acciopuppies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
my friends were on house hunters. Not only did they already own the house, they "looked at" 2 houses that weren't even on the market. They also had people from the show kind of dictating what to say and how to act. They specifically were asking them to bicker about certain things they liked and disliked about the houses, even though it wasn't true.
Tricky4279 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I told my sister that the show was fake 10 years ago. She still hasn't forgiven me.
notyouraverageturd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My wife and I applied to House Hunters International when we were considering a move within the country we were already in. The reply came about 6 months later, after we had already moved. They didn't care. It was explained that we would be filmed over about 5 days, and they would show us some other properties, and a 'before and after' version of our apartment. We noped out because part of the package was flying us home to Canada for a couple of days to film the backstory. Overall, it would have taken a substantial amount of our time that we just didn't have, but would have been a cool story. But the TL:DR is, HH International is fake as fook.
Roastmonkeybrains ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:25:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They bug the shit out of me. If you have the money to buy an expensive house you have the money to pay someone legit to find it for you without showing off.
muffintaupe ยท 6224 points ยท Posted at 17:39:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Probably no one on Reddit watches it, but Say Yes to the Dress. It's real. One sister and a few friends have gotten their dresses there, and while they didn't appear on the show (you get asked when you make your appointment), their experiences were the exact same as TV.
Yes, the consultants really are that personable. Yes, you sit where the show is filmed. Yes, the people on the show really work there. No, they won't show you anything outside your budget, and yes, they really do bend over backwards to find you discounts if you need one (like on the show.)
I know there are probably cheaper places to buy a wedding dress, but Kleinfeld's is gorgeous and exactly like it is on SYTTD. The only thing that might be "faked" is if girls/their family are told to be super picky about the dress for ~dramatic effect~.
Fuck most of TLC's other shows though.
EDIT: YAY MORE PEOPLE WATCH THAN I THOUGHT
Edit 2: Again, I've been there a few times, but we were NOT filmed for the show. I can't speak for how real the dialogue is or isn't. BUT the store and its employees are as cool and nice and friendly as on TV!
turquoisejewel ยท 862 points ยท Posted at 19:35:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend went with her aunt to buy her (the aunt's) dress at Kleinfeld's. They were just regular customers, but the lady helping them was from the show (can't remember her name now), so yeah they do actually work there. And everyone was really nice and helpful. She also said Randy stopped by when her aunt was wearing a dress to gush about how nice it looked.
muffintaupe ยท 757 points ยท Posted at 19:50:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I LOVE RANDY SO MUCH
turquoisejewel ยท 228 points ยท Posted at 19:55:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know! He just seems so genuinely nice. And, IMO, he always pulls really nice dresses.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 21:59:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Randy is my favorite! I would love it if he helped me find a wedding gown! He makes everyone feel beautiful and I love it!
Lokifin ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:54:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love how expressive his face is while he tries to be subtle about...difficulties in the process. And when he gets teary about someone.
justsoyouunderstand ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:49:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've never watched the show, but I'm going to check it out after how enthusiastic you all are.
Chaimakesmepoop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:22:30 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Plus, his eyebrows are a blessing of their own.
monstrowhale ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 23:38:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, who doesn't - Lorde is an extremely talented young lady.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:47:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend who was on the show. It was very real. I was genuinely surprised.
LeSurrealisme ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:01:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to work in customer service for a bridal gown designer/manufacturer. One of my coworkers, who went to Bridal Market in New York (where bridal salons order their gowns from designers for the next season), met Randy while there, and said that he was a genuinely nice person.
Atlas_Mech ยท 566 points ยท Posted at 20:21:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had this on while doing other things and my dad sat down and watched it, making all sorts of comments on fit and style. He is very opinionated for someone who wears the same Hawaiian shirt for every family gathering. He got SO invested in the show, it was kind of adorable.
Opheliah ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 00:45:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My fiancรฉ is a cynical, gruff crab-ass (which I happen love about him). When I watch SYTTD he will go from reading what I assume are super manly articles about muscle cars and motorcycles on his iPad, to slowly becoming more and more engrossed in the show. 10 minutes in, he's commenting along on the dresses like one of the girls. I love it.
EvangelineTheodora ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:00:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My husband is like that too. SYTTD isn't quite his thing, but he will binge watch Project Runway with me.
ToBeReadOutLoud ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:59:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, my dad loved watching Project Runway with us.
I don't know if it's because he just liked spending time with us (poor guy only had daughters*), he likes watching any sort of competition or he just legitimately liked the show.
(*Don't worry. I go to football and basketball games with him all the time, so he gets to do "boy" things, too.)
BobsAspburgers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:37:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's super cute!
hobogauntlet ยท 887 points ยท Posted at 18:24:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love Say Yes To The Dress :D So glad to hear it's real!
[deleted] ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 19:13:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same here. When I was planning my wedding I watched so much of that show
Aaaandiiii ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 23:46:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not planning a wedding but that show is a guilty pleasure especially when there's a marathon. But I really do hope the closet they keep Pnina in is comfy. They're pulling out that woman from nowhere all the time.
Cthulia ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:02:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
if you like pnina coladas
and a bigass train
Aaaandiiii ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:04:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I laughed. Then I got it. Then I lost my mind laughing. You're good.
heartshapedpox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:45:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did, too, which was funny because I had virtually no interest in my own dress. I wore something from the sale rack at David's - the second one I grabbed, because the first didn't fit. But wow, I couldn't get enough of that show.
darkwing_duck_87 ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 00:42:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My wife watches that.
I really, really fucking hate it.
Stuck up bitches naysaying their retarted bride friend who has huge boobs and that dress really makes her look frumpy but that other one was obviously way hotter and in her budget. I'm glad she chose that one.
I fucking hate it. Terrible show.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 10:36:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When you misspell "retarded" while attempting to insult something, your opinion no longer counts. Using the word "retarded" at all, in my book, discounts you as a person worthy of listening to.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:56:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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SonOfTheNorthe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:51:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Say maybe to the baby. But only if it's served with BBQ sauce.
bennibenthemanlyman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I prefer them slow cooked.
(r/nocontext, as well.)
jumpingjacks07 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:33:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seconded! It's my guilty pleasure!!
[deleted] ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 23:45:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One person says its real, and then everyone believes it.
Because nobody would go on the internet and lie, would they?
hobogauntlet ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 23:47:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd rather believe it and it doesn't hurt anyone, it's a show about wedding dresses. Important shit I'll research first, but this... is not.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:49:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I suppose. I'll plead guilty and say I've watched the show with my girlfriend a decent amount when I had cable.
hobogauntlet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cause it's a great show and a lot of fun :D
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lets not get ahead of ourselves here, lol
hobogauntlet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pfft!
muffintaupe ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:12:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ once Kleinfeld's (or TLC) starts paying me, that's when I'll start caring enough to lie about random shit for fake internet points.
captainbluemuffins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It helps that there are some personal anecdotes from other people who have been there as well. You have a truly commendable ability to remain vigilant for when to question things, by the way.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:53:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't believe you're being truthful with me.
captainbluemuffins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...can you specify?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you're just blowing smoke up my ass about being vigilant.
captainbluemuffins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was actually 100% a compliment, even if you didn't take it that way. People forget to question things pretty often, so I'm always glad when someone directs me to be more mindful of what I believe to be true. I'm really being sincere
peelit ยท 739 points ยท Posted at 20:08:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
SYTTD is the reason my mom would come up with statements like "You know, $5000 is a very reasonable budget for a wedding dress" when I was getting married. Lady, $5k is the budget for the whole wedding, and it's not like you're chipping in.
figgypie ยท 188 points ยท Posted at 21:12:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My dress was $300 on sale and gorgeous. But I admit I'm jelly of the people who had dresses more expensive than my whole wedding.
[deleted] ยท 53 points ยท Posted at 21:42:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Mediocre_Farts ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:33:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you don't mind me asking, what color was the dress? Was it a pastel shade, or just any other dress? I don't really plan on getting married any time soon but it's still fun to see what my options are and what others have done for theirs (sadly enough, I haven't even considered getting a non-white dress until you mentioned your experience)
knittingquark ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:41:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I got married in a dark purple with beading. It was an expensive bridesmaid's dress, so a super cheap wedding dress (about ยฃ300, back when the pound was worth something).
Zoe346 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:21:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My wedding dress was also purple. :) it's a knee length dress as well so I've been able to wear it multiple times.
figgypie ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:41:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh fantastic! Mine will never be worn again (I was tiny when I got married and I'm pregnant with my first so we'll see if I'd even fit lol) but it was such a lovely find. Had to be altered like crazy (again I'm tiny) but the alterer did a lovely job on it.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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asshair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What color is it? Cream? Egg-shell?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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asshair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice! Picture?
ohnospacey ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:48:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My mother found hers at a secondhand store, iirc. She said something like $80? She's great at finding deals though. :O (Also, this was back in the 80s, so the cost would have to be adjusted for today's value)
artsyalexis ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:11:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gosh I feel this so hard and I don't even regret it. My dress was a tea length black and cost $80 I believe. Winter wedding!
carritlover ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:55:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am so proud of the time I found an off-the-rack-needed-absolutely NO alterations dress for a friend. I ended up telling her if she didn't buy it I was going to kill her. Seriously, it fit her like it was made for her, had exactly the details she wanted, and was obviously un-tried-on before we arrived.
Steffinily ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:52:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mine is $800. It was $200 over my budget but it's seriously perfect. I can't imagine paying more than like 2,000 dollars.
littlebetenoire ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:58:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My mum made her first wedding dress herself and bought her second one for $80 off AliExpress. Looked stunning in both.
cassby916 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 12:08:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I got mine for $25 at goodwill. Not even kidding. And it was marvelous, so I'll never understand shelling out all the cash that some people do.
Allprocrastination ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:22:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
$100 dress, borrowed shawl, another hundred for gloves, shoes, lingerie.
magneto24 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:07:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, mine was $200ish and from David's Bridal and it looked just as nice as a way more expensive dress. http://imgur.com/8BYue4Z
ReadyForHalloween ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My dress was 300 including alterations, cleaning, accessories AND a flowy reception evening dress. I rented.
TollyMune ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:29:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My wedding was $7k and it was amazing. Spending that much on a dress is ridiculous unless you have loaded loved ones shelling out cash.
redrhyski ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:07:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Donating 7 pints of blood is ridiculous unless your parents do it.
It's still 7 pints of blood.
Hysterymystery ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:14:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know, right? There was some woman on the Suze Orman show around the time I was planning my wedding and she was saying she'd need to spend something like 20K on a dress. I spent 500 on a dress and truthfully I could've spent half that much if I needed to cut costs. People are crazy. lol
CordyCakes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:42:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm nowhere near getting married, but my mom says this kind of thing about other people's dresses all the time! I'm very convinced it's from watching the show, it's really screwed her perception of how much wedding dresses cost.
AndMeEllen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:00:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, if she will give you $5,000 for the dress, tell her you'll spend it ;)
PennyPriddy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:35:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a person who .01% of 5k for a perfectly nice looking wedding dress (not a typo), I can say that you can find it for much less if you'er ok buying used.
Mynameisinuse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:10:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What does a .50c wedding dress look like?
PennyPriddy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:33:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like this: http://imgur.com/BbEknP8
The parts that were a slightly different color were weird little velvet roses that I wasn't in love with, but didn't hate. I didn't have to tailor the fit at all, which was great. It had what this picture calls a boatneck neckline. The skirt (which this picture doesn't really show) had an A-line thing going on with a little tule to give it a little shape.
So, long story short, the dress wasn't Kleinfeld levels by any ways shape or means, but it looked better than it had any right to look for what it cost.
Mynameisinuse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:01:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Very nice. Now where do you get a dress that nice for so cheap?
PennyPriddy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:48:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Goodwill. Our local chain was renovating and they had a bag sale to get rid of the old merchandise at $5 a bag. My mom handed me the dress, I tried it on and it looked great so bought it along with 9 other items. Then I got home and realized that there's not much you can do with a long white dress.
This, unfortunately, was a bit before I even met the guy I ended up marrying. Which made me the crazy girl who owned a wedding dress, despite not having a boyfriend or frankly caring about getting married. I'd never been the little girl who dreamed of a wedding, but one purchase made me the stereotype.
Thankfully, when things got to the point where I'd need a dress, he didn't freak out when I told him I had one. He understood the value of a deal and it still fit, so yeah. Fifty cent dress.
HnNaldoR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a good attitude. Where I am from, 5k is barely enough for anything...
People book huge rooms, do expensive photoshoots, get expensive dresses, buy expensive rings. It's insane.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:17:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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HnNaldoR ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
5k is dirt cheap seeing some of the weddings around. Maybe the gown plus the photographs can be 5k if you scrimp.
peelit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:38:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We had our friends take pictures and are happy with how they came out. They aren't art the way the professional ones can be but they're very good. A friend of ours's band played too so we got them half price. We spent all the rest on food.
MilkMakesMePoop ยท 298 points ยท Posted at 20:30:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend was on it. Maid of Honor said she was coached into saying most everything she said in the side interviews.
Producer: "Would you say Melissa is stressed out?"
MOH: "Oh, for sure."
Producer: "Will you actually say it though?"
MOH: "Melissa is stresssssed out!"
I was a groomsman, so I guess I was on it too, technically. I'm so famous.
SenderMage ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 00:51:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A few years ago, I was a production assistant for a documentary (which still isn't out yet) and this is standard procedure. You need everyone to speak in full sentences if you don't want the producer's voice in the final product.
crogers2009 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:57:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. And for some reason it's so hard to get people to do it consistently. You have to remind them every few questions.
the_number_2 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:44:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've been a producer on some interview shoots, and it's stupid awkward to ask someone to repeat everything they said but to lead with the question this time, and then they do it right but they answer it a little differently, so you end up with a worse take.
At that point, the face-time gets sliced with B-roll and the two audio tracks get merged.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:09:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now part of me wants to be on that show solely to have a reality show made up of me and my friends as a wedding gift.
EverydayCait ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:52:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did some marketing at a past job and that's pretty standard. I wouldn't consider it "coaching". I need you to say the whole phrase so it's better for my sound editor in post.
MilkMakesMePoop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:16:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd call it coaching when the phrases and sentiments are coming from the producers and not the people saying them.
Elbiotcho ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:20:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, I heard you're famous. It's me, ur brother.
superiority ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:48:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Would you say you and your babies have a 'love eight' relationship?"
"Absolutely, yes."
"No, say it! We need a sound bite."
"[Groan] We have a 'love eight' relationship."
the_number_2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:46:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We're on Cloud Nine!"
ThreePartSilence ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which episode?
MilkMakesMePoop ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:23:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Brad and Melissa. It's the Atlanta version of the show.
June1111 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:48:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How are they doing? :)
MilkMakesMePoop ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:22:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
House and baby and happiness!
June1111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:49:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yay!
cg91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:43:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What a nice box of cereal
bluejams ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 03:26:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
How low this comment is compared to the parent comment (who wasn't on the show) tells me how badly people want to believe.
MilkMakesMePoop ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:37:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My girlfriend likes the show Are You The One. I've learned to just leave the room when it's on because I can't help but ruin her good time by pointing out how clearly over produced it is. They'll have a dramatic moment where it's going to be revealed whether or not someone is a match and I'll say something like, "let me guess, the result will be whatever will cause the most drama in the house," and it always is. Wonder why they don't tell you the matches beforehand or have the results in a sealed envelope or something. Because it's all made up, duh. It ruins it for her, which really makes me the dick. Fucking hate that show though.
agent_scully2084 ยท 244 points ยท Posted at 18:27:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I watch SYTTD often. I'm glad to know that the off-camera experience at Kleinfeld is the same as what we see on TV. It's amazing to me that they are not just selling a dress, but an overall experience.
EsQuiteMexican ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:11:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For those prices, they better be.
olympiad23 ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 00:31:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
thanks SYTTD producer and the rest of the shill accounts, your statement sounds just like something a producer and shill account would say
agent_scully2084 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:37:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not a shill. Check out my post history. I normally hang out on two other subs, and tend not to venture out too often because the rest of reddit is weird and judgy and scary. I like fashion/sewing, and pretty dresses.
muffintaupe ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:07:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You said something good about something!!! YOU MUST BE WORKING AN ANGLE!!1 /s
But yeah, they are :) Selling an experience, I mean. So far I've just been the bridesmaid and not the bride, but they do seem to go out of their way to make the girls feel special. It's such a letdown to go other places for bridesmaid dress shopping later and get treated like shit :/
SubzeroMK ยท 397 points ยท Posted at 22:18:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I met the host, Randy? On the metro in DC. One of the nicest genuine people ever.
It was about 8ish at night so it was just me, my girlfriend and him and his family on the train. I remember her saying something like "that guy is so familiar" so she ended up just walking up to him and asking "are you -name- from say yes to the dress?" And he was like. "I knew you recognized me, I told them that. That's so funny. Anyway, I'm being rude, this is my sister and my mom it's so wonderful to meet both of you." He asked us if we wanted to take pictures and stuff. He legit introduced us to his mom and sister.
Genuinely one of the nicest people I've ever met
My (now ex fiancรฉ) with him
DorianC0C0C0 ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 22:54:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Y'all look so cute!! And I dunno what else I expected, but of course he even dresses well off the clock! That coat is tailored to a stitch.
SubzeroMK ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 23:59:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That ain't me, it's my ex, (don't worry we are still best friends, don't ask long story) but yeah, dude must have been sporting easily 3500-4000 dollars on clothes and accessories.
[deleted] ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 00:46:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Dont ask long story"
Its reddit dude.
SubzeroMK ยท 63 points ยท Posted at 01:40:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well. I guess I've told it enough I can tell it one more time for everyone here. Even though this is a thread about a tv show and I needlessly brought it up lol.
Well.
We started dating in high school on and off, she was my first real girlfriend. She had her own agenda and I was maturing faster than she was so we split for a while around junior year. Fast forward 11/2 years and I'm a manager for Jiffy Lube and she happens to come in and we start talking again and eventually started dating again. Well she graduated high school a year after me and ended up going to college. We fought a lot due to the distance and we ended up breaking up, well, found out she was pregnant, and we ended up back together trying to salvage a relationship. (And yes the kid is mine, before anyone says anything, it's a known fact that it's mine).
Well she ended up dropping from school and she had the baby on 12/12/12 (awesome birthday if I might add). So we tried for about a year or so before we ended up saying the fighting was to much and ended up splitting up. We broke up mutually, both agreeing that we both grew up in households where fighting was a regular thing between parents and We didn't want her (our daughter) going through that. So we said well break up, and leave any courts or legal system out of it. So we ended up becoming even closer and better friends than ever and we get along extremely well, and we both have even thought about getting back together but with a few issues being one, I have an amazing girlfriend of 2 1/2 years. And two we would probably end up fighting Non stop again.
But in order to leave the courts out of it, we used our brains and agreed on the following.
Anything that goes to my house for our daughter I pay for.
Anything that goes to her house for our daughter she pays for.
Anything in the middle we split half and half.
And we both can have our daughter anytime we want, just a matter of calling each other and saying, "you busy? On my way to pick her up soon" so we both get equal time with her and equal time to our own lives.
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 01:43:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, you guys handled that in quite the mature way. Good on you!
SubzeroMK ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 01:53:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You mean like mature adults? And not like children using a child as fuel or anything? That's what we were aiming for lol
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:57:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
exactly. you did good
artsyalexis ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:15:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is great! I can say from experience that it is amazing having my parents be really close friends. They divorced and it was rough for a little while but even just last weekend they went out to lunch together after visiting my grandfather (dad's side) in the hospital.
SubzeroMK ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:56:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah we do that a lot. Well even take our daughter out to dinner or something together. It's not the end of the world when you break up with someone. But if there's a child involved at least try to be civil and as mature as possible. Be the example you wanted for you. And be the change you want to see.
June1111 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:51:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's incredible. Better "conscious uncoupling" than Gwyneth Paltrow!
asshair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What if one of you wants your daughter when the other does?
SubzeroMK ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:29:43 on July 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We have it worked out that we never run into that issue.
marley2012 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:13:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes! I met him at a traveling bridal event he was hosting. Very sweet and he genuinely makes you feel like the most beautiful person when he says "helllooo beautiful!"
SubzeroMK ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:21:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude is so openly flaming gay. It's wonderful lol he's a delight to be around
June1111 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:49:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He looks fantastic!
Ollylolz ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 19:44:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hard to admit as a 24 year old straight male but I loved this show when I found it last year. Quickly became a guilty pleasure watching some of the more bitchy bridesmaids. Good to know it's mostly genuine.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:41:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm at that point where everyone around me is getting married, and drunken bridesmaids are still the best/worst part of every wedding.
I'd totally watch a show based on that.
PennyPriddy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:55:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The people behind SYTTD got wise and did an entire season on picking bridesmaid dresses. It was a gorgeous mess.
HeyLookItsAThing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:17:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well fuck, and here I was going to get work done today.
(I was just in a wedding and was the only one who was okay with the bridesmaid dresses. It caused so much flailing about with the other bridesmaids that like ten people came up to me at the wedding reception all "They don't look so bad!" and by the third time I was politely throwing the other bridesmaids under the bus about it. They weren't the most flattering out of the box but with a little altering they looked great.)
PennyPriddy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:48 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The only place I could find it online was paying $2 an episode on Amazon. All the basic Say Yes to the Dress is free on Hulu, but Bridesmaids isn't.
HeyLookItsAThing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:36:59 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well boo.
I was able to find 24 episodes by goggling (mostly season 3). First one is working so I'm hoping the rest do. Not as good of quality as it would be on hulu but hey it works. (it's on watchseries-online.la)
silly_pig ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:24:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have no shame. My bro is the same age as you and got sucked into the show by his gf.
JakeDoubleyoo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:54:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently fashion-related shows are pretty legit. IIRC another thread like this mentioned that What Not to Wear is pretty much exactly how it looks on screen.
dontfeedthelions ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:38:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My mom actually went to high school with Randy! She said he's always been so nice.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:41:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aw, that makes me happy. I haven't watched it in a while but I love that show.
RolbyCice ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:21:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My sister-in-law was on Say Yes. It's fairly legit. The only issue we saw was my wife saying she hated a dress but it was not the one being shown. They really enjoyed their experience.
Ilostmypasswordahhhh ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:58:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This makes me so happy! I love SYTTD!!! Atlanta too :)
muffintaupe ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:26:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lori and Monte are the world's top power duo. Like, they should be superheroes.
kbol ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:36:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've always wanted Randy and Monte to meet just to see what happens.
becksisaunicorn ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:51:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They would have an incredible sass off. I would love it!
horseshoe_crabby ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:45:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You've warmed my heart with this comment. SYTTD is the best.
RukiaMuir ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:34:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It makes me happy to know this show is real, I watch it all the time and I've always had my doubts. \ โข-โข /
negasonicwhattheshit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:00:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
aww yay!!! that show is so pure and good and it makes me happy to know it's real
Ichigomuse ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:02:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love SYTTD!! I've always dreamed of going to Kleinfeld's for my wedding dress but I'm sure I wouldn't be able to afford a 5k dress. I know there are cheaper dresses there but I've always felt like the really pretty ones come in at 5k+
falseAutonomy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:57:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are other ways to wear a kleinfelds dress. I did, although mine was just the cost of alterations because luckily for me, my mom's dress was kleinfelds and we're about the same size.
Ichigomuse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:51:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lucky! Any dress I'd get would most likely need to be altered for my tatas :/
ninja_chinchilla ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:51:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I fricking LOVE Say Yes to the Dress, both NYC(?) and Atlanta. I'd love to go to either of the stores and get a wedding dress but (a) I've yet to meet Mr Right and (b) I live in the UK. :'-(
whichwitch9 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:31:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are dozens of us who watch!
Honestly, you don't need to script for wedding shows. Weddings bring out the crazies.
Sceneselector ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:01:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My wife "makes" me watch it, while painting my nails
Derpazor1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:52:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man now I feel confident about going there to buy my dress!
muffintaupe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:02:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have fun!! It's an absolutely beautiful store! Eataly is quite close if you want somewhere fun to eat/explore before or after :)
Jeepersca ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:54:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ACK that also means the times i've seen it and one family member is an absolute jackass about the process... ugh. when I went through all of that, everyone was just so happy and nice about the whole thing. The only bad experience I had, if you'd call it that, was I found THE dress the time I went by myself, so I didn't have someone to ooh and ahh with me, lol. But how people can be so nasty when someone's trying something on! awful!
seeyarelly ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:46:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about the episode that aired before the women even had her wedding? She requested that they don't show it but they did anyways.
muffintaupe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:30:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heard about that!! :( That's absolutely awful. Would it have really been any skin off their noses to swap it out with another new episode and show hers a few weeks later? I guess I should've clarified, the store itself and its employees are really cool. The producers sound like dicks.
Ponson ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:06:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Friday is Bride day! I love Say Yes to the Dress even though I haven't been able to watch it in a while
Foxlurker8 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:38:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be honest, if I had to guess one reality show that was as close as possible to reality, it'd be SYTTD. Planning a wedding and picking out a dress to wear on the most important day of your life sounds dramatic and stressful enough, I can't see producers needing to add to it. Plus, the fun of watching SYTTD is getting to see the bride and her family leave happy, whereas dating and relationship-based reality shows are usually fueled by UNhappiness to create the maximum amount of drama and watchability.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:45:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a Gun toting, Jeep driving, Harley riding, red blooded American male, I love "Say yes to the dress" and "What not to wear"
muffintaupe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:11:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This made me smile on a pretty crappy day :)
neutralmilkscot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:35:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On my TV the title is always shortened to Say Yes To The D. I laugh every single time. I'm basically a big child.
thatguy147 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:18:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm all about SYTTD!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:57:48 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My cousin works there, she says it is exactly like the show and that all the staff are very friendly with eachother.
missartteacher ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:18:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I watch it too, but I'm more of a Four Weddings kind of gal...
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:08:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Four Weddings is amazing! I feel bad though that there was one girl who had a low budget wedding (she was only 19 but her entire church chipped in: donated a hall, made all the food and cake and decorations and dress as gifts, etc) and the other three women were just condescending like "it was cute..."
missartteacher ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:26:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember that one! I thought it was cute too, but in a good way...they were so young, I couldn't imagine their wedding would be some blinged-out, over the top circus act like some of the weddings are. I saw another one in Dallas the was small and low-key--the other brides didn't like it because of that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of my mom's friends was on the Atlanta version with her daughter and she said they edited it too make her(the mother) seem super bitchy. And the girl didn't even end up wearing the dress they bought on the show.
LetsFightingL0v3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:00:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I LOVE Say Yes to the Dress!
I'm so glad it's real!!!
amsbkwrm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:34:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Say Yes to the Dress is so addicting. I love it.
baitaozi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend got her dress there and she declined when they asked if she wanted to be on the show.
That_Meryll ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I loove this show! Me and my mum record it to watch like every day lol. But I did read somewhere that it's become a bit of a tourist trap now, and you can't move in there for people, so you don't get as much of a dedicated service or space that you see on the show.
Elliephant51 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
SYTTD is my guilty pleasure when I'm home sick, I'm pleased to know it's real.
peckerbrown ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm forced into acknowledging its existence, thanks to my SO.
I may never forgive her.
RagingNerdaholic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is there some requirement that there needs to be one male consultant who's fabulously gay?
Amadis8487 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:34:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yay I love Say Yes to the Dress! I actually started watching because it was on in another room and the narrator is one of my favorite voice actors, so hearing Roger Craig Smith caught my attention and I kept watching. It's weird to hear a Chris Redfield tell me about wedding dresses lol
mercurywaxing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:43:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Friend of a friend at work was on it as a Bridesmaid. She confirms it's 100% straight, except there was a lot of sitting around. Like most reality shows they provided an open bar to make the time pass and lubricate the tongues, but unlinke most shows they only allowed one or two drinks.
0-90195 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a good friend who appeared as the "villain" of a segment (she is the SIL of the woman picking out the dress) and they totally hammed it up. She got to act like a complete bitch for dramatic effect.
PeopleEatingPeople ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:50:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some episodes are staged. This story is of a woman who bought one of the most expensive dresses and was then called and asked to stage her buying it again for an episode. They also filmed her planning for the wedding and the wedding itself. She had to repeat lines multiple times and the edited a storyline in.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:58:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I LOVE Say Yes to the Dress! Randy is my abosolute favorite!
Birdninja009 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:08:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My fianceรจ loves say yes to the dress, she isn't one for reality shows either
TheQueensCrumpets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to love watching SYTTD until I found out that the voice over guy, Roger Craig Smith is the current voice actor of Sonic The Hedgehog. I am never going to unhear that.
Qieth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I watch it because my girlfriend watches it in the time when I get home from work and just want some peace and quiet! :P
Paperted ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am very surprised!
Smalls244 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:28:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heard a different story. A few sorority sisters went on that show and said it was fairly scripted and heavily edited. The bride and dress shopping is real but that's about it.
muffintaupe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, I'm sure the conversations get edited-- I haven't had actual experience being filmed for the show-- but I meant the way they depict the store/consultants is real :) At least the times I've visited. I should've been more precise!
GoBucks13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My 600 Lb Life is one of the best shows on TV
muffintaupe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:32:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
IT ALWAYS COMES ON AS IM COOKING DINNER AND ITS SO UPSETTING (while I'm far far far from 600 pounds, I'm still self conscious about my weight and that's the last thing I want to watch while eating.)
rigarrus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a straight 19 year old dude and I love that show.
foxhole_atheist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine had an appointment there and said it felt like a factory line? The consultants are knowledgeable and nice, but (maybe because it's so crowded) there's a lot of waiting around behind a queue of girls and each one gets to the mirror for a few minutes before being whisked away.
muffintaupe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh no!! :( Maybe she went for a trunk show? The times I've been, each group got their own couch and mirror-- but the factory line sounds like a nightmare, that's the last thing you want when you're trying to get that special feeling in your dress :(
Extracter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
SO and I are probably as far away as possible from marriage and proposals and stuff, but this show is my ultimate guilty pleasure. It makes me so happy that all the extravaganza is real.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's so awesome!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh thank god, I love this show too much.
GingerAloeCactus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like that reality show because most of the time the people on it end up happy. It's a nice thing to watch when I'm feeling down.
YukarinVal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My mum really live this show, and I occasionally watch it with her. Quite nice to know it's not bullshit.
fullmight ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:56:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought that show was basically a horror movie. Those prices are insane and those people are insane for paying for even some of the cheapest dresses. I'm poor though so I guess my perspective is a little different.
SlackerAtWork ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love that show and I'm glad it isn't staged. The staff there always seem so nice and I'm happy that's really how they are.
No_caller_ID ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
While we were engaged my wife killed this show. The closer the date got the more she would watch it. Two weeks before the wedding it was guaranteed to be on the tv because she started recording every episode and would just sit and watch for hours. It makes me a little happy to know that at least she was watching real people instead of actors the whole time
Skybaby23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My sister was a consultant at Kleinfeld's, and while she wasn't a regular on the show, she says the bridezillas are completely real.
c0reyann ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A bride of mine was on the show. Her dress was falling apart by the end of the night. It was so crazy considering what was spent!
StackLeeAdams ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:04:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So that poor guy who spent $60,000 on three wedding dresses for his fiancรฉ actually existed? Jesus...poor guy. I remember him 'joking' that he would have to get a second job to pay for it.
Also, if you're wondering, one for the ceremony, one for the reception and one for the socializing/dancing.
Myfourcats1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's the point of being in the show if they don't pay for the dress? Getting a free dress would be my main motivation.
ScottieScrotumScum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Upvote for the word yay
Icaughtaballoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:09:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friends were on there! It was awesomely dramatic bc one of the bridesmaids didn't like the rest. We had a viewing party and she didn't show up to the party and deleted her Facebook and Twitter the day the episode aired. Wedding went well though.
Inevitablename ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I watch the fuck out of this show and I hardcore judge some brides and or their friends and family.
scoregoals ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've noticed in recent episodes that they've introduced a new young black dude as a consultant. And they've really pushed a conflict between him and Randy, like Randy trying to help him out and him pushing back with a "fabulous" attitude. That part has to be scripted in my mind, you know Randy stirs the drink among the consultants there and I can't imagine they would hire a new guy without him at least being somewhat involved in the interview process. But yeah the rest of the show seems legit.
zeusmeister ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
While that show isn't scripted, they do practice depective editing if the drama isn't there.
KitKatMasterJapan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love SYTTD! :D I'm glad your sister had a good time there.
CandysaurusRex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
A friend of mine was on SYTTD Atlanta and they made her look like a crazy person. She's a fan of Star Wars but they made her out to be obsessed with Princess Leah. The producers would ask her things like, "Would Princess Leah wear this dress?" and she would respond with something like "Oh no, Princess Leah definitely wouldn't wear a dress like this." But they only showed her response and not their original question to make it look like she was being critical of wedding dresses because she wanted to look like a fictional sci-fi character. They also made it look like the dresses she liked were ones they pulled, when in reality some of them were ones she had picked out.
She's actually a bridal seamstress in real life and didn't feel that the dresses she saw were worth the price tag to her. Of course the show would never imply anything but perfection about their own store so they went with making her a crazy lady instead. She didn't buy her dress there but had a very lovely wedding.
muffintaupe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
:( That sucks, I hope your friend had a lovely wedding regardless! I'd be so scared to go on the actual show (or any reality show), sometimes it seems like they pick people at random to edit into a weirdo/jerk. Show one distinguishable trait and they'll turn you into some cartoon character. I'm watching to see the dresses, not laugh at the people wearing them...
mysterypeeps ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every girl who has ever considered getting married watches this show, I'm pretty sure. It was a huge binge of mine while engaged.
Now it just makes me kind of sad because I loved planning my wedding.
allygory ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love that show! Randy is the best!
empathetix ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's nice to know that SYTTD is legit. The people there seem really nice and helpful especially when dealing with conflicts between the bride and whoever else comes along.
Cananbaum ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I watched one episode begrudgingly.
I was appalled at the behavior of some women. IIRC there was a super religious grandmother slut shaming her granddaughter because GASP - she wanted a sleeveless (straight cut) dress. For a summer wedding.
Steffinily ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:49:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Say Yes To The Dress is one of my favorites. Even as a married woman I love seeing wedding things. I'm so glad that its just like the show.
popejubal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's the only TCL show that I can watch (aside from any Trading Spaces rerun that has Vern Yip in the episode).
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My mom and I love that show! It's wonderful to know that they're as personable and nice as they appear on tv!
JonathFFXI ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My wife absolutely loves that show
punriffer5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Our friend was asked if she wanted to do say yes to the dress(likely because she's neurotic and would have made great tv) but she declined and got shitty service instead.
raiskream ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:14:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My mom and I love SYTTD! I've always wanted to get a wedding dress there and I'm glad the experience is real!
Made_Well ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now see my best friend was on the show and she said everything was scripted. They were told when to smile, when to complain, what to say, and even the dress wasn't the one she picked...
They must've been really boring. Haha.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is one of my favorite "lazy afternoon binges" and it makes me so happy to hear all this!!
Horsegirl_365 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank goodness! I've been watching that show for years and was worried it was a bunch of made up crap in real life!
kbol ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah one girl I know shopped at the Atlanta store (Bridals By Lori) and was asked to be on. She only said no because they limited you to a certain number of dresses (I think 5?) but she saw other people filming while she was there and said it looked exactly like it did on TV, and lined up with her own in-person experience as well.
caitmac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love that show and you've made me so happy to know it's so real!
mowzawhoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is the most wonderful news
auraesque ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A high school acquaintance of mine was on the Atlanta version. I don't know what she told casting, but everything that came out of her and her mother's mouth was a lie. She wasn't even actually engaged.
norwichpubtours ยท 1916 points ยท Posted at 15:17:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not quite a "reality show", but my girlfriend worked on a comedy panel show here in the UK called Celebrity Juice. She expected everything to be scripted and choreographed, but was actually shocked at the amount of improvised humor on set. Jimmy Car was the special guest - she said he was by far the most naturally funny man she had been in the company of...apart from me, of course. She's not usually a massive fan of his, so I guess that's a testament to his quick wit.
ttchoubs ยท 495 points ยท Posted at 17:46:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I saw "who's line is it anyway" live. Everyone was funny and nothing was really scripted, but the producers did have the guys do things over again when they got too filthy with their jokes
somberstricken ยท 50 points ยท Posted at 21:21:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yay! I always wondered about that show? It's underrated. As long as Ryan and Colin are it, it'll always be good.
FirstNSFWAccount ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 01:05:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not hard to find behind the scenes where they just reset if something is inappropriate or they fuck up the hoedown.
hemlockdalise ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 01:17:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well there go the next 45 minutes of my life
SkeevyPete ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:52:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man, I wish I could've seen it live when it was on.
somberstricken ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:05:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It still comes on!! You can still go see it! It doesn't have drew carey anymore but it has Ryan stiles , Colin mockery, and Wayne brady. It comes on the cw
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 04:49:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i found you ryan
SkeevyPete ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 11:04:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen it. It's...it's just not the same. I can't put my finger on it, but it's just not the same. It feels like it's trying too hard to be what it was before.
ThePariah7 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:58:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's cause the new host doesn't do anything but yell
June1111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:53:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed. That's why I stopped watching.
cleeder ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:16:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't stop staaaring at your breeeaaaaassts.
fuzzynyanko ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:15:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hear they have some prep, but outside that, I think they said it's ad libbed
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 23:10:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I once spoke with an improv comedian who said if you can't come up with something on the spot, you can always fall back on stuff you've done a hundred times before.
Until television started going to town broadcasting improv serially, it wasn't a usual occurrence for most people to see more than one improv show in a given time period.
Meaning, the audience there that night knows the performers do that stuff for a living, but they weren't there last Tuesday night, so they weren't there to see when performer A used the same thing he did tonight because he knows it always kills and reliably makes him look like a genius.
Of course, it's not in their nature to make a habit of it-it defeats the purpose and robs them of the satisfaction of the challenge of their craft-but it's better than stammering in almost silence looking like an asshat.
DoomZero755 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:43:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, that's pretty good advice. I'm trying to say "that's good advice in general" but I feel like my "in general" isn't really everyone's. I'm the kind of person who likes to entertain people by doing or saying unpredictable things. So, while my general method is "be unpredictable", it's still quite helpful to have some quick-and-simple jokes, or half-jokes that I can mold to fit the situation (or to not fit the situation). If you make a joke somewhere else, with other people, and it works really well, then that's one more joke you have to fall back on later.
One favorite of mine is actually the exact opposite of this advice. I had just walked into a dining hall after getting rid of some change by buying a timbit at Tim Horton's (actually, I got two for the price of one due to the cashier's generosity/apathy), and I immediately told three different groups of people the story of the bonus timbit. Then, every time somebody joined the group I sat down to eat with, I would tell them the story nearly verbatim. One of the people who was there from the start was going crazy by the third time he heard it because he was so tired of hearing it told in exactly the same way every time.
SmokeSignalSky ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:20:37 on July 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As an improviser, I can attest that this happens accidentally a lot too. Like, you do a scene about one thing, and it kind of sticks in your head, and then the next show you accidentally make the same kind of comment or set up the same kind of scene again. Tbh when it happens though, it's more of a "ugh fuck I wish I hadn't done that" thing than a "this is great, now we know what we're doing!" thing.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:17 on July 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think in his case he thought of himself as a comedian first, and improv artist second. Like, he'd do those kinds of gigs to sharpen his skill set, but it wasn't his focus or his strength. I think he meant more his approach because of the role it played for him as an individual.
With groups, I don't think anyone's getting into anything that hectic and crazy because they're lazy or like cutting corners.
Have you ever seen Set List? They take a stand up and flash them topics and they have to do five to ten minutes on the spot burning through the topics. It's amazing to see who is inventive, who does a good job in terms of presentation and reveals how much work their persona or delivery does for them, and who is very successful but can't think on their feet to save their life.
ttchoubs ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 20:34:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The challenges are pre decided but the guys get to improv everything. excpet when like I said they have to do it again because they got too filthy with it
howlahowla ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:32:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How often did that happen?
SpectralHound ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 00:13:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
A fair bit I would think. It's mixed in with just general bloopers and outtakes on youtube. example numero uno
numero zwei (รผber long, รผber good)
Toidal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:00:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The first example will always crack me up. Colin slinking down to give Ryan the down and up, and then when Wayne goes down like the 3rd or 4th time and Colin sighs in resignation as he goes for him again.
Never understood what the joke was for the bird hitting Ryan's nose though
[deleted] ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 01:53:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fabio was the huge name back then for modeling those romance book covers, he broke his nose when he was riding a rollercoaster, and a bird flew into his face.
mrtomhimself ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:37:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fabio had his nose broke by a bird while on a roller coaster.
LoveYouLongThyme ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:53:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Famous male model Fabio was hit in the nose by a goose while riding the rollercoaster Apollo's Chariot at Busch Gardens Williamsburg
elitistjerk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:14 on July 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I bet you're a blast at partys.
SpectralHound ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:11:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's just really tall.
BadBoyJH ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:14:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen some outtakes when Ryan has gone too far. Some of his hoedowns bitching about doing another, one ending with "This is what I have to do; to please the fucking brit", and another one about slitting his wrists.
Somehow he's even funnier angry.
DestinysWeirdCousin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:44:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have a friend who was called a producer on this show, but he was actually a writer
howlahowla ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:34:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't be surprised if they wrote a lot of the 'audience ideas', but I'd be INCREDIBLY surprised if the performers' dialogue was scripted.
_ClassicSchmosby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:57:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a huge fan of Whose Line, this is great to know.
hockeyrugby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:21:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a drama teacher who went to second city who talked about Whose Line. As much as it is not scripted he basically said that of those improv games they play there are about 300 others that are also played in comedy/acting training so the 5-8 they do are relatively well rehearsed or it is easy to get comfortable with them.
BasilVal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am quite surprised. That show always appeared heavily scripted and I never really enjoyed it because of that, even if it featured the same people as in NMTB or the Big Fat Quiz. Will give it another try.
red_lantern ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:59:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some of their bloopers are the best part of the show (american version in this one)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l84-zmOs_kM
CramPacked ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:49:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How in the world can you perceive WLIIA to be " heavily scripted?"
BasilVal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Idk, I've been watching all these other shows and sometimes realized "yeah, that was prepared in advance", sometimes they even joked about it (think Intro Rounds in NMTB). Watching WLIA, I got the same vibe.
ttchoubs ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:33:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No the guys do everything on the spot. theyre all very funny
sam-29-01-14 ยท 2171 points ยท Posted at 15:18:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
AH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH AH AHHHHHHHHHHHH
sarcasticapplause ยท 257 points ยท Posted at 15:51:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nailed it.
[deleted] ยท 568 points ยท Posted at 16:52:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you lick your thumb and rub it up and down on a window pane, it's exactly the same noise.
Woodsalt_ ยท 131 points ยท Posted at 17:19:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god that is so incredibly accurate
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:11:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or give sneezing powder to a seal.
maniczebra ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:30:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I once read a comment on Reddit that likened the sound to a seal being violated.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 19:10:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this.
fleetber ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:07:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And now thousands of people are rubbing their licked thumb on a window pane. That's what the internet is all about right there
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:49:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
must i hurt the window?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:53:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
8 out of 10 cats will never be the same again for me now.
shelvac2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:46:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What?? I actually tried this and it just sortof slides, its not much noise at all, and none of it sounds like laughing.
sarcasticapplause ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:06:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never heard that description before - seems spot on XD
TorsteinTheRed ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:59:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
NiiruNoRidozu ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:41:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That laugh, obsessed with numbers, looks like a vampire.
I think Jimmy Carr is Count von Count.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:58:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heard this so clearly
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:32:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've always compared it to a Carr engine starting up.
Alonewarrior ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:25:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His laugh is the one thing I can't stand about him and it was made worse when he acknowledged it in one of his stand ups. He's hilarious but his laugh is like nails on a chalk board.
SepDot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:54:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not his only laugh, he has a normal one too!
ruarisaurusrrex ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:46:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
reading that set my teeth on edge
shhussurus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Basil Brush?
Adamarr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:13:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
BOOM BOOM
ThatNerdyFratGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:58:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm an American you recently discovered Jimmy Car due to his special being on Netflix. How do y'all deal with him. He's funny as hell but that goddamn laugh. I almost had to turned his special.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:10:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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sam-29-01-14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who?
SpanglyJoker ยท 207 points ยท Posted at 16:17:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Been to his live stand up routine. Can confirm, his wit is sharp as fuck.
terrynutkinsfinger ยท 148 points ยท Posted at 16:54:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Saw him a few years ago, he asked for questions and ripped into a guy for being racist. Then made EVERYONE groan when he was asked what was his most offensive joke.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:41:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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CDNRedditor ยท 96 points ยท Posted at 18:52:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
something alone the lines of "mosquito nets are a great inventions, they've saved millions of mosquitos from dying of aids"
Landredr ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:11:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well they asked him to do it.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:11:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like the one I've heard is more offensive, but it's absurdly racist.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:31:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's on netflix
terrynutkinsfinger ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 19:58:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do you get a gay man to have sex with a woman?
Shit in her cunt.
immaeatmesomewaffles ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:13:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is 1) the funniest joke ever, and 2) only funny when spoke with an Australian accent.
Loganfrommodan ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:23:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah mate, Jimmy did it best
immaeatmesomewaffles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:26:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jimmy even attempted an Aussie accent when he told it.
terrynutkinsfinger ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:11:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't hear it in a fosters accent and I still laughed. ๐
Jumpinjackfrost ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:04:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fosters? Found the non-Australian. We don't drink that stuff here mate.
foolishnun ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 00:36:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've found loads of them mate. They're fucking everywhere!
terrynutkinsfinger ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:37:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know, that was my attempt at humour.
Condus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:31:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Upvote for admitting it man
omnicidial ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:00:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fosters is how you say "marketing to idiots" in America.
SidewalkEnforcer ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 20:09:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wat
terrynutkinsfinger ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:13:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't be arsed to type that out again mate.
Hairyhulk-NA ยท -23 points ยท Posted at 21:33:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you've typed the sentence out so poorly I can't understand it.
who asked whom what joke?
why was this bad for the show?
what didn't the audience like?
terrynutkinsfinger ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:08:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're going to be a smart arse use capital letters when starting a sentence.
DetailsMaster ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:09:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Ninjaspar10 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:52:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really want to know what triggers this bot.
tomsawing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:41:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I went through a bunch of comments to see if I could figure it out but it seems random. It also replied to this command once:
"GetDetails! /u/Ninjaspar10"
Ninjaspar10 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How peculiar. Maybe it's entirely random? Just with an extremely small chance of activating.
TheBlackHive ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't there a subreddit where you can post, and then it'll find the person and do that? Or am I thinking of something else?
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cross-eye-bear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:23:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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cross-eye-bear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:37:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
:(
Hairyhulk-NA ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 22:19:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I want to know the things I asked you, what's your deal
terrynutkinsfinger ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:42:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can't always get what you want
Hairyhulk-NA ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:32:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and you call me the smart arse?
immaeatmesomewaffles ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:14:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
See, Australians believe that gay men are into poo, hence the anal sex.
Starts_Punny_Thread ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:55:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Off topic but you are probably racist.
immaeatmesomewaffles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:30:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're new to this whole racism thing, huh?
Jimmy Carr even said it was an Australian joke.
Starts_Punny_Thread ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:50:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reported for racism. Rot in hell, fuckbag.
immaeatmesomewaffles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:43 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
SJW detected. Post/submission history confirms troll status.
Starts_Punny_Thread ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:27 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You are going to face sweet justice. Enjoy the ban, toothfuck.
immaeatmesomewaffles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:29 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
no ban occured.
Starts_Punny_Thread ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:54:07 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just you wait, cockfingers.
immaeatmesomewaffles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:57:08 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
how long is that going to take?
Starts_Punny_Thread ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:04:18 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I informed some mods and an admin. It won't take long now, chocofingers.
immaeatmesomewaffles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:36:38 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this is taking forever. just send me a pm when it happens.
Starts_Punny_Thread ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:27:13 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your punishment will be much more severe than a simple ban.
immaeatmesomewaffles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:32:02 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
oh? do tell.
omnicidial ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:01:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Australians have unique beliefs?
immaeatmesomewaffles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:58 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you agree with them, then no.
CrowdyFowl ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:46:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was his most offensive one.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:51:34 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
what was the joke?
terrynutkinsfinger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:34:29 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do you get a gay man to have sex with a woman?
Shit in her cunt.
carbonnanotube ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:29:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was great when he came to Toronto.
He asked for heckles and the response was "you are very good at your job".
SpanglyJoker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuckin' Canada
Tartra ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:01:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just saw him in Ottawa! At one point in his show, he actively requested people to heckle him.
Yeah, no one was dumb enough to fall for that. Don't worry, he just started voluntelling some poor fools instead. It was awesome - and a great way to weed out the real hecklers early!
hgdusnjjv883 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:56:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I saw him live like 7 years ago and him talking to the audience was just hilarious.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Draffut2012 ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 18:19:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
None of those panel shows ever looked scripted, they just look heavily edited.
The panelists make 200 jokes, and the best 30 make it to air.
I think they also ask the panelists before hand if they have any funny stories related to the material, and the host will ask them about it. That's about as scripted as it gets.
They need to bring 8 out of 10 cats back. I really want their take on Brexit.
Fragrantbumfluff ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:06:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Last Leg has made sure we won't see 8 out of 10 cats again.
The countdown version will run and run, even though I think it's lost it's legs recently. But to go back to 8 out of 10 cats would be very anti-climatic. It was basically just mock the week with funny people instead.
Draffut2012 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:55:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am unfamiliar with The Last Leg, why would it be the nail in the coffin of 8 out of 10 cats?
Fragrantbumfluff ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:03:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's basically 8 out of 10 cats without the quiz element. But nobody cared about the quiz anyway
A look back at the week's news. It's also live, so has audience interaction and has the up to the minute news. Has good guest, is quite informal at they really go for the jugular with some things.
http://youtu.be/Enp2AWkhw60
Shiny_Umbreon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:47 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Plus Adam Hills is a god.
Draffut2012 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:32:11 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just watched Episode 1 of the newest season. It was... disappointing.
I don't think any of those 3 hosts stand up to any of John, Sean, or Jimmy.
EJ88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:57:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mock the week was funny when they had Frankie Boyle.
Fragrantbumfluff ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:57:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mock the week was only funny when they had Frankie Boyle.
StormRider2407 ยท 108 points ยท Posted at 16:40:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seen Jimmy Carr twice and met him once. He is a genuinely funny guy. And when I met him, he tried to hit on my wife. She thought it was hilarious.
Draffut2012 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 18:21:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When's his baby due?
GrammerNasi ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 19:05:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now I'm just imagining a baby giggling but with his laugh. It's horrifying.
batsofburden ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:55:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ga ga ga gahhhhh.
LuperAU ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:01:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So you didn't get to go backstage with your wife after the first show?
Ulkhak47 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:40:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, jimmy doesn't like being watched.
Quazijoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:51:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
for some reason I thought he was gay?
kalni ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 23:49:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, he's just British.
Fredvdp ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:38:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you perhaps thinking of Alan Carr?
Quazijoe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe, but I thought it was this face. Maybe I was always confused.
finerd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:29:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't take that personally. It was definitely just for the joke...
Sceptile90 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:02:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
[deleted] ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 16:10:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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norwichpubtours ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 16:15:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His ability to improvise on stage is absolutely incredible. I have massive respect for anyone able to ad-lib in such a high pressure setting. Interactions with the crowd are a massive risk for stand-up comedians because the scope for things to go terribly wrong is so huge. Volunteering to do so is akin to climbing into the lion's den. But if you own those lions the crowd loves it.
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 20:32:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's part of his shtick, and is a large reason why he is so successful. He used to have shows where it was 100% crowd work, where he wants the crowd to heckle him, just so he can retort. Was one of the funniest live shows I've ever been to, and hadn't even heard of him before that. I am definitely a huge fan of his now (His latest special on Netflix was great for anyone who hasn't watched it yet!)
It's a nice break from your average club comedian who will kick you out for heckling (not me, I don't heckle, but have been present to plenty)
hugglesthemerciless ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:29:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's one of the reasons I love him so much, I could never think that quickly
SquidCap ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:29:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I basically watch everything he does and he doesn't even repeat himself that much. You can see jokes that come from the various tv shows he hosts developing in to a routine but apart from those, it's all new all the time. He is genuinely talented on improvised jokes. Surprised he hasn't caught on in states, all the appearances on the late shows have been really good quality, allthou he is a LOT more stiff in US tv than in the home soil (and, lets' face it, if he has to censor himself, it ain't the same thing.. his "sweet guy-joke-joke-shock" he does is amazingly effective and refined).
hugglesthemerciless ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:34:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think he may simply be too crude for the american audience. At least most of my friends that I've shown him to felt that way.
SquidCap ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:02:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really? That is a surprise. But then again, i could haved lived in a bubble that hold the Aristocrats as the ultimate joke. In internet you get what you want and i do like offensive comedy so that might have lead me to the fringes.. no.. actually, i changed my mind, your friends have just too tame taste :) Jimmy is still quite average on the offensive scale.
Hmm i think i'll do some Carlin right now. Yeah, i know, different styles but both are/were masters of their own craft, which matters the most to me in the end.
vimescarrot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think he's too atheist. He just can't not poke fun of peoples' "imaginary friend in the sky".
Scalby ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:01:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Please tell me you've seen Ross Noble.
Fragrantbumfluff ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:04:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't they literally just have a piss up and play a few games then they just happen to broadcast it
Calciumee ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:15:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shame Keith Lemon is about as funny as a kick in the balls.
terrynutkinsfinger ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:51:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And it's a fucking great show too.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:29:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was she surprised that there is no Keith Lemon?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know you from the other thread- does your GF know about your channel yet? ;)
likeafuckingninja ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:30:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went to watch something being filmed at the BBC a few years back ( cannot recall what it was, but Jack and Kelly Osbourne were guests that week) I was expecting way more cuts and scripting TBH. But they filmed for 45 minutes had a couple breaks to give the presenters etc chance to stand up and move around, and the audience a break as well and they had comics come on to keep the audience amused during the breaks (they weren't great comics i guess small timers trying to make it or something) I never saw the final episode but i guess they cut the 45 minutes of footage down to a 20-30 minutes show and just edit the crap bits out. But it seemed pretty genuine
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:54:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My boyfriend went to watch it live and said it was so boring he left half way through. Apparently there were a lot of 'breaks', a lot of 'clap/laugh now' cues and the celebrities were basically just getting drunk together as they all had beers/alcohol hidden under their desks.
iamnotarob0t ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Celebrity Juice is totally my guilty pleasure. There's something about it.
InsertWittyNameRHere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who are you and who is she, one of you must be a comedian?
rubbermullet420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice Try Jimmy, Nice Try
NinaLaPirat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love Celebrity Juice! Fuck I want to go watch one of the shows so much.
TheFlyingBogey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh shit, I saw Jimmy Carr's 8 out of 10 cats live during the diamond jubilee special! I was amazed at how quick they all are with their lines, even the non-comedians are really fast on the trigger! We were there for about 4 hours, and they cut that down to 45 minutesโฆit's interesting to see what makes the cut, and what can never make the cut (Micky Flannigan crossed a lot of lines and it was brilliant).
loudot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's brainy as fuck too. Here is his random word jumble on QI
greyjackal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen Edinburgh Fringe live versions of several British comedy panel shows over the years (Buzzcocks, Mock the Week, 9 out of 10 Cats etc) and I had the same impression (albeit from an audience perspective rather than behind the scenes).
RosieEmily ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:20:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I freaking love celebrity juice! (shatiiiing!) I've been to recordings of shows like Never Mind the Buzzcocks and Mock the week and none of it at all was scripted. Filming took around 3-4 hours to edit down to a 30 minute episode of all the best bits. The only slightly scripted parts were when they had to get the guests to repeat an answer if they didn't catch it or were at the wrong angle.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:26:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice save!
akesh45 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:58:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice try jimmy car pr rep.
agnosticbeliever138 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:09:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This makes me think of the show @Midnight with Chris Hardwick. The guests and the host always seem to be coming up with pretty good lines, supposedly on the spot, but it happens so fast I always wonder if the people had time to think about what they were going to say ahead of time or if they really are that quick and funny.
[deleted] ยท 107 points ยท Posted at 16:54:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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pleasespeakwellofme ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:54:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love that show. I have no idea why but its a guilty pleasure. It definitely is the most violent reality show I have ever seen. Everybody fights and they don't play around AT ALL. Lil' Scrappy's mom is fascinating.
anglerfishtacos ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:40:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yessssss VH1 reality shows. I still miss Rock of Love.
Riimii ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:09:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh gosh, love this show!
internet_wat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:22:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Funny you mention that and this is on the news this AM: http://www.azfamily.com/story/32369906/reality-star-reportedly-shot-in-head-in-scottsdale
sudonem ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:55:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh. I definitely don't wish anyone ill, however every one of those people felt to me like very low level life forms and whatever bad things happen to them will likely be of their own doing.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:53:00 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
is joselin hernandez a man or a woman ?
[deleted] ยท 706 points ยท Posted at 16:56:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I worked on an episode of Gordon Ramsay's Hotel Hell that was filmed in my town. I'm also friends with the owners of said hotel. From what I saw, It was pretty legit. The editing didn't push a narrative that wasn't already there and accurately depicted my friends and what was going on with their hotel. I went to the filmed re-opening and the only bad thing I can say is that Ramsay doesn't know shit about fried chicken. It was easily the worst I've ever had.
edit: Here's the episode, if anyone's interested.
edit 2: Hail State
OrangeredValkyrie ยท 290 points ยท Posted at 18:31:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A friend was bitching that Kitchen Nightmares is so formulaic and predictable. Yeah, failing businesses tend to fail for a pretty standard set of problems.
Mikeaz123 ยท 95 points ยท Posted at 21:33:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The editing is extremely formulaic. That's why the Amys episode went viral because it was unlike anything else they've done.
LoraRolla ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 22:44:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree with this. I love Kitchen Nightmares but the way they edit it definitely makes things a little stale sometimes, even when there's a lot of nuances and differences. They definitely try to hit the same notes as focus points every episode.
sroasa ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:58:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The British episodes are much better than the American ones in this regard.
vogonicpoet ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:30:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The British series is far superior to me for one reason: focus on the food, fuck the family problems (unless they are fucking insane).
DwarvenPirate ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:42:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The british episodes are all about who is a raging alcoholic.
Keener1899 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:28:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The editing in the British episodes makes it feel much more real. You get to know the people and their back story better, and it involves more than just yelling, crying, and breaking things.
drjoehumphrey ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:12:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the Amy episode had more going for it than just the editing. She and her husband were absolutely batshit crazy, and continued to be in a very public way well after the show left. It was highly entertaining.
thisishowiwrite ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:46:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think maybe Amy herself had something to do with the virality, in addition to the way the episode was structured.
Elfephant ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:43:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went there. It was really unpleasant. Sometimes I think you can't make that kind of crazy up.
Marp2048 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:07:24 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The batshit crazy owners helped. Did you see that Facebook meltdown?
ParanoidDrone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't seen any of Kitchen Nightmares, let alone the ABC episode. It sounds like a train wreck though. (ABC, not Gordon.)
OrangeredValkyrie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that itself was pretty surprising, but let's be fair. Those two restauranteurs worked very hard to make that episode as memorable as possible... By being completely insane.
bfandreas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:21:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The editing makes it formulaic.
But the editing for the UK one was less predictable and sensationalist. I preferred that one.
Cueball61 ยท 324 points ยท Posted at 17:22:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ramsay isn't in it for the screen time, that's why. He genuinely puts his heart into helping these places.
Yalnix ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 19:37:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love Ramsay. You can tell from his AMAs that he cares too. Especially when he gave that kid a job!
naliuj2525 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:23:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well he offered a job. I don't know if he ever got hired.
JoeBrando5 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:01:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did he get hired?
SD_DS ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:14:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ramsay said that when the kid got out of jail, he reoffended.
So no he didn't lol
indaelgar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:05:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ramsay also said that the job was still open if the guy was able to clean himself up once he was out again.
ZoomJet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean I don't know if he said yes but by all indications he was going to accept
shinypretty ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:22:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Remember India, the very young Scottish chef who came over to Paris to help that utterly clueless now-a-hooker girl with the vegetarian restaurant? He did give her a job.
[deleted] ยท 138 points ยท Posted at 19:18:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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moortiss ยท 242 points ยท Posted at 20:37:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Give us a break. It's our birthday!
Kolotos ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 22:44:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You mean treason day!
kjata ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:13:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, it's only treason if you don't win.
QuestionMarkus ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:34:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But it's HIS cakeday!
Just_For_Da_Lulz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:32:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously, this is like our national cakeday! Wtf man?!
Whitecastle56 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:00:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He just hates us cause ain't us
joalca ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:48:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, at 240 years old, you're an adult now.
Birthdays as an adult don't mean squat!
ghostpoopftw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:07:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're just salty about the brexit.
SgtFinnish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:49:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From those twats, though.
meekaANDmochi ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 21:41:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't even think he's really an asshole. He just is no-bullshit. Honestly, if Gordon Ramsay came into my house and told me I was storing my tv remotes wrong, I would listen to him. lol
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Waniou ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 22:16:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno, even in American shows, he can be pretty helpful. I used to watch Hell's Kitchen pretty religiously, and when the chefs were good, he was pretty damn supportive. He just had absolutely no tolerance for mistakes, especially not really basic ones.
CryptidGrimnoir ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 00:22:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about Masterchef: Junior? He seems to especially enjoy helping young chefs fuel their passion.
shinypretty ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:21:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love watching him with the kids. He is so sweet and supportive.
meekaANDmochi ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:51:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually still think he comes across as helpful and understanding. He makes funny comments, but he still seems genuinely interested in helping people. His whole attitude reminds me of Jim Halpert. I feel like he should be looking into the camera with a "can you believe this shit?" sorta face.
Where can I watch the Brit shows?
LocoLegit ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:26:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Old British kitchen nightmares episodes are well worth your time to go back and watch. Much less a restaurant makeover show, he works on fixing the people and what is going on with them. Totally charming.
shinypretty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:20:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about that nutty-ass Welsh couple who could literally not stop from fighting every 20 seconds? Oh man, that was awesome.
I mean, I've fought with waiters and cooks before, but contrary to popular belief and my own assertions herein, I do have an indoor voice. Neither of them does.
Although they were both so cute by the end. :)
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meekaANDmochi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:13:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yelling is different than screaming tho. He yells but he doesn't scream.
shinypretty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:19:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you have iTunes, you can get about 15 or 20 episodes there. I think they're on YouTube too. Search for "Kitchen Nightmares UK". I think you'll dig it.
leoncoffee ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:47:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is there any other show other than hells kitchen that he goes ballistic?
I remember him much more of brutally honest than being an asshole in some show i watched him.
shinypretty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:18:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He cusses a lot better on the UK show, though. They don't bleep his more, er, colorful expressions.
the_number_2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think a lot happens to come from the people he's trying to help. Though possible a result of creative editing or purposeful selection, a lot of the American restaurant owners and staff seem hot-headed and antagonistic while being resistant to change or are just shutting out reality, which causes Ramsay to ramp up the intensity to get through to them.
I'm sure he's also playing to his market, too.
Sleepered ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:52:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I had bad morning sickness, I use to fantasize about him coming to my house and cooking me something that wouldn't make me vomit.
shinypretty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:21:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"You stupid donkey! It's BROTH! Eat it!"
BrownWrappedSparkle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:33 on November 2, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I don't blame him for getting annoyed or even angry on Hell's Kitchen. I mean, how stupid do you have to be to compete on that show and not know how to make his usual dishes perfectly? So when someone doesn't do the risotto or scallops right, really? And you're competing for what job, exactly? on whose show? Go home.
LoraRolla ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:46:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The thing is there are two different Ramsay personalities. On that one game show he does where the chefs compete for a job, he plays up the crazy type, but obviously still supports them.
However if you watch Hotel Hell and Kitchen Nightmares US, he doesn't do that. He does yell sometimes, or speak with tactless bluntness, but he also tries to support and help people. He just gets very angry with people who are lazy or not really trying, or 'hobbyists' pretending to be business people. Which he even says himself, so it's not a secret.
political_libre ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:51:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, as an American I think he is a likable asshole.
CramPacked ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:57:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's not really an asshole though. In HK he's just being a super tough boss bc that's the premise of the show which is to make it hard for the contestants. Even there he's cool outside of the kitchen.
namesrue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:33:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think that's his point. His assholeness appeals to American culture.
KoboldCommando ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:20:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's more his strictness, bluntness, and honesty, though it definitely comes across as assholeishness more often than not.
There is a lot of false praise, backhanded complementing, and general nice-to-your-face, jerk-behind-your-back attitude in American culture, and it comes across as refreshing when you have someone who blatantly flies in the face of that. No "sorry", no "sweetie" or "honey", no "compliment sandwich", or passive-aggressiveness, just completely up-front and in-your-face about your flaws and shortcomings.
I know a lot of people who really wish it were more acceptable to be like that and that more people would be like that in real life. Almost everybody has at least some insecurities along the lines of "what if I'm really bad at this and everybody's just too polite to tell me?" And it's often incredibly hard to convince someone that any praise you're giving them is genuine.
So yeah, his TV persona represents a wishful-thinking ideal in some ways.
froggielo1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
is there anywhere where americans can (legally) watch the british versions?
MingusDoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:57:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You want to watch some good Ramsay shows check out: The F Word, Gordon Ramsay's Ultimate Cookery Course, Gordon's Great Escape...these give you a totally different Ramsay then you see in the U.S.
shinypretty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"The F Word" wherein he eats casu marzu is my all-time favorite.
HolyHypodermics ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
IIRC there are plenty of full episodes on Youtube.
bacon_tastes_good ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:13:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are some re-runs that play on BBC America.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Britain?
shinypretty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:21:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I got all the available episodes on iTunes, but they're also on YouTube.
TheOven ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You mean his British persona and his FOX broadcasting persona
monsterlynn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:19:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You probably haven't seen more recent Ramsay shows, then. He's a big pussycat any more. Hell's Kitchen of course he's a dick but Kitchen Nightmares the last few seasons, and certainly Hotel Hell he's a super nice, caring guy. He might be abrasive at first, calling out problems and pulling people out of denial, but the way his demeanor is depicted has definitely shifted toward the nicer side.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:49:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I definitely got that impression.
thisishowiwrite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:47:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If that were the case, they wouldn't film it.
The_Count_Lives ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:32:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love GR, but if the cameras weren't there, I doubt he's flying to the middle of bumfuck New Jersey to help some poor bastard figure out how to run his Greek diner.
WeWantBootsy ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:05:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's been awarded 16 Michelin stars. I'll let him slide on fried chicken.
Ranger33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But on the other hand, how do you mess up fried chicken? We need to know more.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:29:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No doubt, but that dish would have gotten him kicked off of one of his own shows.
Draffut_ ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:13:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Doesnt surprise me, thats something you really need dirty fryers and a near-condemned building to get right.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:31:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn skippy.
treexy ยท 83 points ยท Posted at 17:40:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Celebrity chef-dom, TV cooking personalities and the like are 90% image and 10% talent. Most cooking shows are not legit.
But I guess Gordon gets a pass on fried chicken since he isn't American, if someone tasked me with making spotted dick I'm pretty sure it would be horrible.
Source: American chef-in-training
justanotherepic ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 21:04:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well Ramsay has a bunch of Michelin stars and a chain of massively successful restaurants so I would say he's atleast as talented as he is entertaining.
Lemetroll ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:21:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hope you're not saying that Hells Kitchen is fake.
Indigo3256 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:22:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't know about fake, but it is heavily edited. In one of the seasons in the US version, they showed one of Gordon's infamous freakouts, and in the background of the kitchen you could see a contestant cooking that was eliminated several weeks earlier.
IkananXIII ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 23:41:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One thing that always annoys me about Hell's Kitchen is how every single challenge comes down to the very last point, every single time. There's never a blowout win for one team or something. That's gotta be bullshit.
downvote4pedro ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:22:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Half the time one of the teams fucks up so bad they just get sent packing! I'm not sure what Hells Kitchen you're watching but there is very often a clear winner. Both in the kitchen and in the challenges.
Lemetroll ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:37:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure there's some heavy editing and the people are specially picked to create conflict, but I hope the producers don't pre select for example recipes for contestants to cook. Since the prize is a job at one of Gordon's restaurants I guess the competition can't be too rigged.
Indigo3256 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:55:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There has also been controversy with the grand prize as well:
http://foodiegossip.blogspot.com/2010/12/hells-kitchen-hell-of-embarrassment.html?m=1
ForThisIJoined ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:02:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd be willing to bet very good money that the contract they sign when they participate in the contest states that they will win a prize up to the value of the prize listed. Of course they're not going to put someone incompetent as a head/executive chef at their legitimate business. But if you read that article everyone listed was either given the position or given things that amount to what they would have earned in the position.
Just because the show says "they'll be head chef!" doesn't mean the legal documentation isn't different.
LoraRolla ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:50:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The issue with that is that they use filmed sequences out of order sometimes to heighten drama in Hell's Kitchen. So something may be filmed later but used earlier because there wasn't enough drama in the episode or etc.
As far as the prize thing, unfortunately shows that promise a job often have this issue. Just look at The Apprentice.
monsterlynn ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:36:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well I don't know about you, but if I'm a multi-Michelin starred chef looking for my next protege to take over one of my restaurants, I'm probably not going to go looking for them in Retirement community kitchens or amongst "personal chefs" of dubious experience. Hell's Kitchen is super fake.
FoxyWatermelon ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:43:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gordon Ramsay has multiple Michelin star restaurants. You don't get those for being on tv. I agree many celebrity chefs are celebrities first, but Gordon isn't one of them.
monsterlynn ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 03:38:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but it is a bit of a chicken vs. egg kind of thing. He's good but would he be able to have so many restaurants if he wasn't raking in dough because of his celebrity status?
hewhoreddits6 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:32:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean he had the michelin stars before he made it big on TV, so I would yes.
monsterlynn ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:41:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He had a few. I'm not saying that he didn't earn the ones he got post-fame, because that's not something handed out willy-nilly, but his fame certainly has given him the opportunity to expand on his successes in a way that many very good chefs don't get the opportunity to do.
hewhoreddits6 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:55:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh no doubt about it. Most restaurant owners would be lucky to have enough money to open up a second location let alone a whole new business. Running a business like that isn't easy, and I think the revenue from some of the TV that he's done has allowed him freedom in this regard to expand more on his restaurant business in case something ever happens with his TV stuff.
monsterlynn ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 06:01:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think he understands that his TV stuff is more-or-less flash in the pan level fame. It's not sustainable. Someone better at what he's doing on television will come along eventually. It's why I think he's opted for a softer persona with shows like Hotel Hell.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:55:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Some of his new
one-off YouTube videosF-word shows are pretty awesome.Last two weeks or so, he's A)hunted his own pigeon and cooked it in the field, B)trapped, killed, cleaned, and cooked a wild boar in the field at Fort Benning, Georgia, and C)completed an obstacle/endurance training course with the Royal Marines and then cooked the lads lunch.
Dudes a total bro.
hewhoreddits6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't that just him posting things he already did on Youtube? The F-word isn't a new show.
doublefudgebrownies ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:38:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The man has I don't even know how many Michelin stars. The fried chicken thing surprises me.
meowtiger ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:33:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
he's not american, fried chicken is kind of an american specific thing
hunty91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do Americans really think we eat spotted dick all the time? I don't think I've ever even seen spotted dick. Anywhere, ever. Except as a joke in Hollywood films.
sillybelcher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol, it's probably the same as any article about American foods and/or eating habits. We aren't chowing down on squirt cheese and deep-fried-everythinginthefridge on a daily basis, or really outside of an actual outing to an event where something like that is just part of the appeal (city/county fairs, carnivals, etc.).
shinypretty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:24:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Speak for yourself, Slenderman.
Just_For_Da_Lulz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Psst, go see Tina down by the pier and she'll spot your dick right up.
SeanStormEh ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 18:10:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I, for one, am glad you aren't well practiced in the art of making spotted dick.
PMyouMooningME ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:12:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The guy that owned four seasons in Vermont was wasted out of his mind. At one point his face changed colors like a rainbow. You can't fake that, Ramsey even commented on it, but like everything else is was one real moment in a sea of make believe.
shinypretty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was that the dog episode? But RUMPOLE!
redstarbird ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:51:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember eating at a restaurant that he did in kitchen nightmares, this was before he actually did the episode and in the episode he finds like 2 or 3 mice in the restaurant. That was 100% real since i remember looking at the side of my booth at one point and seeing a dead mouse just lying by my seat.
Neyheshi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:41:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Blackberry? Or something like that? I remember him finding a dead mouse at a soul food reataurant.
redstarbird ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yea Blackberrys. sad thing is they used to be pretty good but went down hill, they closed after he did the episode and i think the spots still vacant
shinypretty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:25:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good. That owner was an unappreciative harridan.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:06:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Whoa, didn't expect it to be in Starkville, MS. I go to State bro.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:31:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have a clanga on me. Clanga.
InappropriateHandle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. We go up there a lot for games! Weird seeing it here.
imjohnk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:40:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/u/ElonMusksPotatoes
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:37:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I watched that episode and felt sorry for the couple. How are they doing these days?
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:15:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, mostly the same. Sukie's back in the kitchen after a couple of pretty short stints by other chefs. Dave's Dave. He's one of my favorite damn people. Curses like a sailor, smokes enough to have his own Surgeon General's warning, and is always quick to laugh. Unless you piss him off - then he'll drop you like a bad bean pie. They finally have a good bar manager but the traffic just isn't where it needs to be. I think Ramsay was right in that they've never quite grokked Starkville and their business still suffers because of it.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:57:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you are right. I was there when they tried having a Sunday brunch that IIRC was $50 a person. To make things worse, they tried it first on Mother's day and had a good turnout. The problem is, Mother's day is in May. Right as Starkville dies for the summer. So it languished for a couple of months. It was good, very good. But it wasn't $50 good and $50 a person is a LOT of money for Starkville.
I remember telling Suki it was just too expensive for Starkville. She told me that if the Peabody in Memphis could get $75 a person, she saw no reason they couldn't get $50. She just couldn't grasp that very few people in Starkville had the wherewithal and the inclination to drop $50 on a meal. It just isn't that kind of town.
Hell, for me a big time meal out was Pap's Place. Which if you have not been to, you are missing out.
Mediocre_Farts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That breaks my heart :'( I hope they were at least able to make some ends meet. I don't know the school colors there but I presume they're white and red, and I just hope they'll eventually be able to tap into the community :/
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maroon
Red is the school up north
Orionite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:07:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like the way you write.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:26:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like that you, like, like.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:01:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aww, I loved that episode. Sukie seems adorable. Her sushi looks... not good though.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:27:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The show definitely did exhibit a couple of her more unusual creations. I've heard her sushi complimented by travelled people on more than one occasion.
whiskeyonsunday ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:20:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine and here mom were on Restaurant Impossible. At one point her mom was accused by one of the diners of handing a spoon over with her thumb on the bowl of the spoon. Her mom claimed she didn't do it (Why would she hold the spoon like that? the spoon came on the plate with the bowl of soup) but they had her film it anyway. They ended up not using it in the final cut as the problem with the restaurant really had nothing to do with the wait staff so it didn't fit the plot of the episode. The final cut was pretty accurate to the restaurant's problems.
That place ended up closing a few months later, largely because the problems they had (bad location, drama between the owners, one of the owners drinking as much of the wine/liquor as they sold every night) can't be solved by someone else. Any solutions suggested had to be enacted by the owners and they weren't. It wasn't just a matter of fixing the menu or updating the decor.
PaulaAbdulJabar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:03:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Starkville? Hell yes! I had a friend that worked on that episode. He made him go buy a couch from an IKEA in Atlanta and then didn't even use it so my homie took it home with him. Makes for a good story.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mayo?
PaulaAbdulJabar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:31:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit. Incredible. Mayo is the homie!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:35:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Heh, I know homie. I figured it might have been him since I knew his mom had to make that trip. I didn't know he got a couch out of it, though! Did he tell you about Gordon offering to try to get him laid?
PaulaAbdulJabar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:57:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"What kind of pussy do you want?" Yeah it's insane. I sent this to him haha, he got a kick that he got recognized immediately
TehZimRoK ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and to clarify it was actually a hotel chair, i wish it was a couch haha
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:52:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was this the same Mayo who set his dick on fire in a Hightower sink?
PaulaAbdulJabar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. Unless I've known him for 8 years and he never told me.
TehZimRoK ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:48:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you rang?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God, I love living in a small town.
kabamman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:47:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My wife and I love the beer garden there were went like once every other week because there isn't anything else to do when you're stationed at Columbus and don't like hunting or football
Jfresh1293 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:55:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hail State!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's just like that - except that he curses a lot more.
Michae1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Weird. They shot an episode of Kitchen Nightmares at a place I frequent and the employees I spoke to said it was dreadful. I've never talked to the owner about it firsthand, but the employees have said she is prohibited from discussing it to anyway. They said only a handful of them were chosen to be in the episode and that many of "customers" were brought in my the producers, and coached to react appropriately. Ramsay spent very little time at the restaurant when they weren't shooting and shortly after he left they had to undo most of the scripted changes. Their opinion of him afterward was not high.
MingusDoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Any chance of spilling the beans? Watched pretty much every episode and would be curious to know.
thirdgraderface ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, I watched the episode, I cried
keyonte0 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:01:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The producers likely only had to tell Gordon "do what you do" and the show got made.
lord_of_tits ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend was in a celebrity chef cooking show and the audience get to try some of the food that the chef cooks and he said the food tasted bland and a little under cooked. Its possible since they are just throwing the ingredients quickly and trying to get the show done with so many distractions. He also been to the chef's restaurant and its no where the same as the one he tasted on the show.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I worked there just couple of years before that. I am what I am today because of the kindness of David and Suki.
either it got a whole lot worse quickly or they definitely spun the shit out of it.
Although the giant sushi roll was real and a terrible idea, the rest was very good.
aithni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A fellow Starkville redditor!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely. He completely redid their outside Beer Garden and made it all quaint and shit. It's really lovely. The lobby was spruced up as were a few(?) of the rooms. It's definitely nicer.
advents ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you elaborate on the chicken part
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:22:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was. . .double fried. As in: it was battered, fried, battered again, and fried again. This was my understanding, anyway. In any case, the presented chicken breast had an armor class of no more than 2.
funkitin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hotel Chester! That's one of my favorite episodes of Hotel Hell.. the owners seem like such awesome sweet people. I hope the hotel is still doing well!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:06:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They were really the most wonderful people I ever dealt with in my life. Three years working for them, and they took very good care of me.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hail State!
shinypretty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That couple seemed so genuinely sweet, and so thankful for the help. I hope they're doing better.
mrcloudies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:20:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just watched that episode earlier today.
It was such a nice episode, he really did quite a lot for them in that one.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:59:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can tell when he likes the people involved.
stovallin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have an upvote sir, Hail State!
blaaaahhhhh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:47:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This was the post I was looking for... So happy to hear that. Just started watching the new season of hotel hell and it's brilliant. Had only seen the uk and us 'kitchen nightmares' shows before and loved them.
Always Seems genuinely authentic, so good to have it confirmed.
sassysloth__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:51:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hail State! Never ate at Hotel Chester, but the Beer Garden is nice.
Sound_of_Science ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
South Carolinian here. I agree with nearly every judgment Ramsay has about food, but he clearly has no palette for southern cooking. I've seen him criticize catfish, shrimp and grits, fried chicken, and others. Not even the cooking, but the dish itself.
delmar42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:03:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've never bothered to watch Hotel Hell. Gordon Ramsey is a chef - wtf does he know about hotels, other than maybe what food their kitchens serve?
McBurger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:36 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hotel Chester! I remember this episode. So glad he helped these folks.
henfrigate ยท 8549 points ยท Posted at 14:30:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everything. Every single thing is fake. I was on a cake competition show. The judges recorded 2 takes for every comment, one positive and one negative so the editors could put it together however they wanted. They rolled the clock back an hour so everyone else could finish. We had over three months to plan our "spontaneous" cake. Oh yeah, and while we won by the judges vote...a producer decided one of the other cakes would film better for the big reveal so we didn't win even though we should have.
everyday_a_cakeday ยท 2582 points ยท Posted at 14:36:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Please don't tell me you were on The Great British Bake Off. That's the only reality show I truly love (although I'm sure those producers are just as bad)
ldn6 ยท 516 points ยท Posted at 17:24:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If Ian was unfairly booted off in series five because Bingate was intentional so help me...
fjiblfitz ยท 175 points ยท Posted at 17:50:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I've always been fairly well convinced that bingate was overblown because the only contestant to come to Iain's defense was Jordan (who had already been eliminated), while the rest of them either stayed out of it or defended Diana. It definitely seemed like it was an editor giving in to the style of reality show editing that GBBO watchers seek to avoid.
[deleted] ยท 171 points ยท Posted at 18:50:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This has always pissed me off that he was made out to be some sort of hothead while nothing was made of Diana going to HIS freezer, taking out his bake and putting hers in! Yet he was the one in the wrong! Apparently it was only out for a minute but so what! It shouldn't have been out at all!
fjiblfitz ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 19:55:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If he'd managed to control his anger enough to present something, I think they would have given him the benefit of the doubt. But when his reaction to the issue was to pitch it entirely, he sealed his own fate. Especially since if you watch, his ice cream wasn't setting even when it was in the freezer prior to assembly. Perhaps it would have worked if left alone, but it seemed like the writing was on the wall that his ice cream wasn't going to set.
It also didn't help that he was fairly rude to Sue as he was throwing it away. She was trying to help him and he responded with a snide "I've got a serving suggestion" as he tossed it. While he may have had reason to be angry, his inability to control where he directed it was the real issue.
[deleted] ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 22:15:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He even said in an interview that it wasn't because it had been pulled out, it was because he had messed up the recipe and so he knew he was going to get the boot and was frustrated.
mrsthompsoon ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 20:25:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That isn't what happened at all. It was her freezer and it was out for less than a minute before Ian noticed and had a strop. Diana didn't deserve any flack.
StrongBow_ ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 00:54:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is inaccurate. The contestants had no assigned freezers because a couple had broken and they didn't have enough for each station to have its own. She claimed it was her freezer because it was close to her station but all the freezers were fair game for all contestants.
mrsthompsoon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:59:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well then. That changes everything. Diana must burn.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:07:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously? Then why the fuck was he using it!?
nordic_barnacles ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 21:34:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His was broken.
Artiemes ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:00:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuckin' diana man
bakedNdelicious ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:47:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dirty Diana...
CJ_Jones ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:39:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
The ice cream had been out of the freezer for about 30 seconds so it wouldn't have made any difference. Although it was a bit scummy to remove it from the freezer without saying anything.
Also he had been completely on tilt for the entire weekend. Also if he was unable to maintain his composure during this early week how the hell would he manage during the later weeks. Plus he had nothing to offer the judges which has NEVER happened before.
FunkyardDogg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:56:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
STOP YELLING AT ME
nojustno ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:31:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't it her freezer though?
earplug123 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nahh he put his bake in her freezer IIRC... That's why nobody kicked up a fuss, she needed room to put her bake in, so taking his out was fair. Telling him could have been a good idea however (if she knew)
Also begs the question as to why there was no room in his fridge... Strange
Cheesedoodlerrrr ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:38:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There were not enough working freezers for all contestants to have one at their station. They had to share. The freezer in question was the one closest to Diana's station, hence people saying it was "hers."
toxicgecko ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:18:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree. I do think Diana was in the wrong for moving his shit but apparently it wasn't out for as long as people thought so it's more likely failed because of something he did rather than Diana.
scare_crowe94 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:22:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was out for a minute on a hot day, the cameras shown the state of the ice cream. Its crucial that it can't rise in temperature when its supposed to be setting like that, or it won't set.
toxicgecko ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:58:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
right, so it was real? sorry my reading is not very good.
scare_crowe94 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:11:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know for sure, but his reaction in the heat (lol) of the moment was justified.
toxicgecko ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:42:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah, it's gotta be pretty stressful when you fail and know you're being filmed.
HABSolutelyCrAzY ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 04:26:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I learned she left the show after hitting her head and losing her sense of smell and taste. Karma? Certainly not. That shit is rough.
edit: h
toxicgecko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:22:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that was a load of bull at first but like that actually did happen to her like, shit man
CJ_Jones ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:39:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually Series 3 winner John Waite was also quite vocal about it being unfair that Ian was eliminated.
fjiblfitz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right, but my point is that of the people in the tent on the day, no one came to Iain's defense. To me, it speaks volumes that the only people on his side were the ones who only saw the edited version.
CJ_Jones ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:11:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No-one came to his defense because his side Is/Was wrong.
He had a meltdown in the tent. He threw his Baked Alaska in the bin. He failed to provide anything to be judged. He showed that when things go wrong, he was unable to cope. And while it may have been Diana's fault, Ian showed that he was the less suitable person to go through.
RosieEmily ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:10:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Diana became a fully fledged pantomime villain after that episode aired.
powmj ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:26:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I seriously think it could lead to our country descending into anarchy
Omvega ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 23:35:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I still think it was his own fault. Everyone was having trouble with their ice cream, he just got fucked harder. He could have still presented his other parts and wowed in the other rounds
Zootzz ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:10:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She didn't even seem sorry after the fact...
clintorialist ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:13:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And then she mysteriously suffered an "illness" the next week and was off the show
AndJellyfish ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 21:00:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All the contestants went out for dinner and she fell over, severing a nerve in her head that meant she couldn't taste anymore so she pulled out of the show.
PippinFace ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What? That sounds very suspect, what is the chance that you sever a nerve affecting your taste buds while you're in the middle of a cooking/baking show?
AndJellyfish ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:18:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eh, I don't know. She severed her olfactory nerve. I think it may be somewhat more common in older people? But don't quote me on that, I could be misremembering.
PM_YOUR_MUGS ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 23:41:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"fell over"
I reckon karma caught up to her, and it wasn't properly set either
Erikthered65 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm Ian's cousin. He's pretty sure the producers encouraged whatshername to take his cake out off the freezer to create drama. He's wasn't interested in fighting on camera so he binned it and walked.
They new he was a popular character and drummed up interest surrounding.
QuinoaQuinoa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:31:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Iain's cousin?
IanPPK ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:33:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey it's me ur cousin.
Shananigans1988 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:57:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I got so angry.
chaos_is_me ยท 1348 points ยท Posted at 15:24:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mary Berry would never stand for such shenanigans!
ldn6 ยท 346 points ยท Posted at 17:22:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Paul Hollywood on the other hand...
( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)โ
CMDR_Qardinal ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 22:50:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mary Berry would straight up raptor-claw Pauls' eyes out if he was rigging the bake offs. Now THAT's reality TV I want to see.
Rather_Unfortunate ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:35:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His eyes scare me.
Lokifin ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 00:09:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad you said that. Something about him screams "asshole off camera" and I think it's his eyes.
imrankhan_goingon ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:28:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you know he had an affair with Marcela Valladolid (she is on "The Kitchen" now) immediately after starting the recording for the US version of the show? They carried it on the entire time they filmed. Eventually, he repented and his wife took him back. I always knew something wasn't right with him.
Lokifin ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:58:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am not surprised by this. He's the type of person I would always be giving the side eye to, especially if he were my boss. Enthusiastically supportive until he cuts your feet out from under you without a twitch.
This is the judgiest thing I've said this week.
cottonbiscuit ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:12:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The male judge!
thatpaxguy ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:36:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My uncle was on the American version of the Great British Bakeoff that was on CBS. From what I've been told the guy is a complete jerkoff. Cheated on his wife with one of the other hosts and was incredibly condescending and elitist.
DingleDanglies ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:15:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know a guy who used to work with him in a kitchen. My friend said he was useless to work with and wouldn't hire him again.
Also said that Jamie Oliver was no better than a home cook.
Hodorallday ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:55:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jamie Oliver's style is homecooking, so not sure why that's an insult. Sure, he has restaurant chains now, but he's not cooking in those kitchens, it's all about the brand.
One of my favourite celebrity cooks is Nigel Slater. He makes simple, well thought out meals. Slater isn't a chef, but being a 'home cook' hasn't harmed his career!
joebearyuh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:02:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jamie oliver is bullshit though, those 15 minute meals he does. 15 minutes my arse, its only 15 minutes if the majority of prep is done for you and you have all the expensive gadgets that he has.
Once you factor in all that its jamies 45 minutes to hour meals not including washing up. Ive been to his restaurant too, its nice but its just pretentious, expensive shit.
Hodorallday ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:19:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's true of most recipes though, not just Jamie. I made a yotam tart the other day that involved caramelising garlic. 10 mins of cooking the garlic then 10 minutes for them to caramelise? Bullshit, Yotam! More like 30 minutes of increasingly frantic stirring and wondering 'is it sticky yet?'. End result was phenomenal though.
joebearyuh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:24:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm, made my own marshmallows one time. Ten minutes of whisking should give you nice stiff peaks. Yeah if youre dwane johnson, more like an hour of the most intense arm workout ever to get floppy peaks.
Flightlesstm ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:38:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like a dude who doesn't like successful people
Dust45 ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 20:19:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mary Berry for ruler of the world! (everything would be delicious, lovely, and a bit frightening)
angryfluttershy ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:37:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Scrumptious, too. As long as it isn't soggy, that is.
ppfftt ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:58:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Soggy bottoms are the worst!
Nambot ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:08:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She'd be too drunk to do anything though.
joshually ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:55:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have you seen the documentary on her from a couple of years ago? She's literally Light embodied, and when she talked about her son dying from a car accident, it was the saddest thing I've ever seen on TV as her voice slightly broke.
Thefriendlypsycho ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:10:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shenanigans, such a beautiful word.
spaceman--spiffy ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:32:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I swear to God, I'll pistol whip the next guy that says shenanigans!
Joey_Ice_Cream ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:54:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey Farva! What's the name of that restaurant you like? The one with the goofy shit on the walls and the mozzarella sticks?
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:48:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You mean shenanigans?
Hiei2k7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:13:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OHHHHHHHHHH
munchopotomus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:42:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love you guys!
tbag403 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fairy Jerry
Urban_Polar_Bear ยท 312 points ยท Posted at 18:09:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From hearing contestants speak the most fake part of the show is how many people are really in the tent. It's full or runners doing various tasks such as washing up. those shots of them watching each other across the tent aren't really like that, there's loads of people between them.
Sue really is as much of a hinderance as she appears on the show.
snek-queen ยท 332 points ยท Posted at 19:27:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sue is a delight and is just doing what we'd all do in her position - eat peoples leftovers.
nurimoons ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 20:50:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a girl crush on Sue.
snek-queen ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 21:27:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a full lesbian crush on Sue. (actually, I kinda just want her to take me under her wing and be my gay cake loving Yoda. You should check out "The Mekong River with Sue Perkins" if you can, it's a wonderful documentary, very open minded and humble.)
nurimoons ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:24:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks I totally will! I love her, I'd leave my husband for her! Lol
batsofburden ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:51:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But she can't actually bake, she just eats cake all day. I'd go for Mary Berry, she bakes & cooks a meal too.
fizzyspells ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:43:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sue is actually very good baker according to the technical crew.
Taylorswiftscouch ยท -39 points ยท Posted at 21:35:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For the longest time I thought Sue had a mild case of down's syndrome. You can never unsee it.
edit: http://www.tvchoicemagazine.co.uk/sites/default/files/imagecache/interview_image/intex/sue_perkins.png
joebearyuh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:03:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She has got a brain tumor...
Taylorswiftscouch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:23:48 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bet that sucks
nurimoons ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:25:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Booooo I'm not watching it.
greyjackal ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:17:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've got a man crush on her too. And yes, I know.
There's a running (6 years now) twitter gag when I see her in Edinburgh (where I live) during the Fringe about her stalking me. Or the years when I haven't seen her out and about, I congratulate her improving inconspicuousness. She plays into it brilliantly :D
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:46:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Totally irrelevant but nice username! Jackals are the best!
nightshiftrounds ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:53:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Omg me too.
Rizzpooch ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:36:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or, occasionally, the chocolate that a contestant was actually going to use. Wait, that might've been Mel
zooba86 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:39:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am not a fan of them as presenters. I'd like Sarah Millican instead!
GoChaca ยท 131 points ยท Posted at 16:39:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ready, set.....BAKE!!!
TriangledCircle ยท 100 points ยท Posted at 17:09:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
3 months later...
TehSalmonOfDoubt ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:06:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On your marks, get set*
Fucking pleb
Sr_DingDong ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:45:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Plebe*
KingNFM ยท -9 points ยท Posted at 19:11:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ready, set.....FAKE!!!
FTFY
PM_me_ur_Dinosaur ยท 158 points ยท Posted at 18:30:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think he's talk about The great british baking show, because they are very upfront about the fact that contestants can prepare and study at home before the competition.
smootie ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:12:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wish more American reality shows would give contestants time to prep and study (or be more up front about it at least).
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:06:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:52:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right, and who the fuck wants that?
MzScarlet03 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:31:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But the technical challenge is supposed to be spontaneous. Based on how poorly the technical challenges go, I would have to guess they really don't know in advance.
PM_me_ur_Dinosaur ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:23 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
but they still know in advance what TYPE of item it will be. So on cakes week they can study every type of cake. And most cakes have similar science.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:48:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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RamadanDaytimeRation ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:31:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
According to Wikipedia, they dumbed down the title for US airings.
For some reason that reminds me how the American narrator in Kitchen Nightmares always says "Chef Ramsay" at every turn. Y'know, for celebrity name recognition and in case the audience forget he's a chef.
a_birthday_cake ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:04:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ha I'm addicted to the US version of Kitchen Nightmares right now and I did wonder why they keep calling him Chef Ramsey. It seems really fake. I can somehow get past all the phony drama and the fact that every single second has background music but Gordon being called Chef Ramsey every time his name is required bugs the hell out of me.
markhewitt1978 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:00:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just the American way of naming people. Like Americans would refer to "Prime Minister Cameron", when there's not one British person who has ever uttered that in their lives. It would always be "The Prime Minister" or "David Cameron"
RamadanDaytimeRation ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:01:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a really authoritarian convention. It's ingratiating and excessively deferential. Too much ingrained obedience to authority.
rentythrowaways ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:31:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The BBC can't risk faking things any more. They had a few high profile scandals where shows were apparently fixed, favouritism played a part, or it turned out that a contestant was related to a BBC employee and didn't disclose it so they are incredibly careful these days.
They even moved Top Gear from their factual banner to their entertainment banner so they didn't need to worry about some of the staged stunts they do.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:03:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heard Jonny Vaughn talk about his experience on the celebrity version during one of his radio shows on Xfm (or Radio X if you prefer) recently.
He went on to say it is very fake, Paul is a prick, him and Mary only turn up for five minutes at the end of the day and it's a bad experience.
Honey-Badger ยท 222 points ยท Posted at 16:22:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I doubt it. I have friends who have worked on it and I work on other BBC productions from time to time, there are many rules about how things are put together. Dont get me wrong im sure there is some trickery but recording a positive and negative comment for every cake and then the editor making the decision as to what way it will go seems very unlikely.
Crassusinyourasses ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:01:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Editors and directors create reality tv. The reason why the "confessions" you see on a show like The Real World all take place in the same room is so the editor can create the story they want/need. It's also why the confessing person always wears the same outfit when confessing.
My Brother has edited a ton of reality TV. Im waiting to hear back about the positive/negative comment thing. He did 6 seasons of food competition shows so if it's standard he'd know.
Hodorallday ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 07:00:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the point u/honey-badger is making is that the BBC has strict rules about what it can/cannot do because it is publicly funded. The rules are much stricter for the Beeb than for commercial tv stations.
Crassusinyourasses ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:16:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes and that effects nothing in terms of reality tv unless the UK has quiz show laws like the USA. Survivor can't be fixed as it's an actual competition
Hodorallday ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Surely it affects the reality tv shows that the BBC can produce. Which is what OP was talking about.
doyou_booboo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:00:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What does the room and clothes a person wears while doing confessional have to do with creating the story the editor wants?
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:33:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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doyou_booboo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:56:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah shoot yeah I got you
diggexpat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not. At least on most shows. We would have heard of it by now.
BedriddenSam ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's also more acting than most of them can do.
bruddahmacnut ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:42:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it is more likely they film both reactions to create dramaโฆ
Judge: Your cake is blah (bad) blah (bad) blah (bad) โฆ
cut to baker looking worried.
Commercial break
Recap of events
Judge: Your cake is blah (bad) blah (bad) blah (bad) โฆ
Judge: but it is the best tasting cake I've ever eaten.
Baker: Looking relieved and happy.
LJHB48 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:39:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No ads on the BBC.
bruddahmacnut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ahh right. This is how a lot of shows are edited though.
MKR does it a lot. I'm like c'mon Manu, I'm not buying your shit anymore. You know you're gonna like it.
Crassusinyourasses ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:17:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Turns out for Chopped they film the whole conversation and then my brother would create what he could from it. He said that a negative take was often hard on that show as often the chefs were very positive.
Aiku ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Welcome to Amerika, comrade.
We decide who wins the cake prize, based on numerous focus groups.
h1h2h3h4h5 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:34:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you just look through his post history it's clear that he's American, so this isn't GBBO don't worry.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But we watch it too
h1h2h3h4h5 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:03:44 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you don't compete tho
katherinemma987 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:01:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The only thing i've ever heard from behind the scenes is that whoever is filming the follow up bit at the end in the garden when they're happy/sad/humble hates it because as soon as filming is over everyone descends on the leftovers and they get left with nothing!
Arctic_Religion ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 16:40:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is the only baking show I can watch. I fuckin hate those other middle aged woman music playing shit shows.
QSector ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:52:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen one season of it and cannot find more episodes anywhere. Such a great show.
CoffeeHamster ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:31:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
New season started on PBS on Friday!
flyinthesoup ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:59:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I found them on that website related to skulls and bones and a ship... It took a while to get the first 4 seasons but I got them. AFAIK Netflix has season 5, which is season 1 for Americans, and back then the BBC had the current episodes for Season 6 (2 US).
QSector ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:37:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of the only torrents I haven't thought to check. BBC and PBS have nothing at the moment. I think Netflix and Amazon both have the same season available right now which I've seen. Thx!
Angling43 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Netflix!
Countcube ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:02:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was worried until they started saying "we", so it's a team cake show and therefore my faith in GBBO stands tall as ever
psithurisms ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:46:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It actually sounds like Food Network's Cake Wars, the evil spawn of Cupcake Wars.
everyday_a_cakeday ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:52:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know, I think you might be right. That does sound like that show.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 14:49:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
well yeah...
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:50:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well they said 'we' and GBBO is a distinctly solo affair.
neutron_stars ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
until someone's up against time and the other contestants help put on garnishes and such!
heids7 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:16:14 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So fucking cute!! I love that show so much.
recoveringdropout ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:02:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love this show!!! I like it when they cut and burn themselves on the first episode of a season because they are all so nervous.
TheLastSparten ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:02:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I doubt it. American reality TV is usually scripted/creatively edited like that, but British TV is generally less fake. One way you can see the difference is by watching UK and US versions of Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are still plenty of UK shows that get up to creative fuckery in order to push a narrative.
Here is a magnificently relevant clip from Charlie Brookers Screenwipe showcasing exactly that point.
nitasu987 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:02:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am so mad that I accidentally spoiled this season :( Damn you Wikipedia!
GiftTag ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:27:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The goddamn New York Times spoiled the most current season for me way back when it aired in the UK. It just now started airing in the US and I can't even fully enjoy it. ๐ก
recoveringdropout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:02:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love this show!!! I like it when they cut and burn themselves on the first episode of a season because they are all so nervous.
DoWeNeedAnAppForThat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I'm not 100% certain, but I don't think of-com would allow the production company to change the judges' vote, it would undermine the legitimacy of the competition. BBC shows are heavily regulated, due to public funding. For example, they're not allowed to advertise. The show previously had a scandal because Smeg donated all the cooking equipment for the show, which is essentially an endorsement, that they are not allowed to offer.
Edit: Spelling
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I bet it's Masterchef, and more than anything, I bet it's Masterchef Australia, the bunch of lying bastards!
J00ls ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gordon Ramsay said his US show was fixed whereas his UK one wasn't on an appearance on the Jonathan Ross show.
thecakeslayer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Relevant username
Bojangthegoatman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't say that.... I love that show and it feels so much different from any other reality show. It's so much more genuine and has no constant bitching
BLACKAP3RTURE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Relevant username.
Cat_Themed_Pun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
GBBO IS REAL GOD-DAMN YOU
SHUT YOUR MOUTH
Countcube ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was worried until they started saying "we", so it's a team cake show and therefore my faith in GBBO stands tall as ever
BlackMantecore ยท 101 points ยท Posted at 17:59:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently Chopped is pretty real
thunderling ยท 105 points ยท Posted at 18:18:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I want Chopped to be real, oh please. That's my favorite cooking show.
BlackMantecore ยท 109 points ยท Posted at 18:25:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Iirc Ted Allen and several contestants have said it is as real as real can be, that when you see them open the baskets that is straight up the first time they've seen the ingredients and the rounds really are the times they say they are.
shaunc ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:26:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Chris Santos did an AMA recently and also said that the contestants don't know the ingredients until they open the baskets.
sweetmotherofodin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:04:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought they get to know beforehand a list of ingredients that MIGHT be in the baskets so they can have an idea of how to use them.
dannighe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:45:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
IIRC that's Iron Chef.
Completely ruined the show for me.
UnNumbFool ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:17:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorta, they get like a list of 5 potential items that could be the secret ingredient, but it's only about an hour before they start cooking. I mean unlike chopped where they only have to prepare one meal in the time that they see the basket, the iron chef people have to make a full course.
So personally I think it's fair that they get a general sense of what it will be or else they wouldn't really have time to get done
delmar42 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:05:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think that has to be Iron Chef, like you said. They show the chefs with ingredients they've brought with them, so they have to have some idea of what the main challenge is going to be.
Basstracer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:52:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've read a lot about Chopped that suggests it's as legit as they can reasonably make it.
DrFrantic ยท -74 points ยท Posted at 19:15:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not. Reality TV is not real. They are real chefs, cooking real food, but 99% of the drama is planned. Sometimes something real will happen but chances are the cameras missed it. So they'll rewind it back and fake it anyway. That's how reality TV works. It's a cheap way to make money off of chumps on couches.
hijomaffections ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 20:26:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's no drama in chopped
Thundershrimp ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 23:22:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unless you try to serve raw red onions.
jkersey ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 23:53:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I swear, there's always one chef that sees Scott Conant and thinks, "I can make him like raw onions. No one has ever prepared them right. I can do it."
ResidingAt42 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:18:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And didn't Scott Conant use onions when he competed on Chopped? Son of a bitch was laughing about it too.
grubas ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:29:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair the judges competing is funny, because they all know and work with each other. They are cracking jokes and give them ingredients they hate. Conant would use onions and I think somebody ribbed him for it.
neutron_stars ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:28:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or garnish with truffle oil
thunderling ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:50:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There sort of is when they ask the contestants "why they want to win today."
I hate those sob stories. I don't give a shit about your background or what you're going to put that money toward if you win. I'm sorry your mother who taught you how to cook is dead, but you are not winning any of my sympathy that way. I wanna see you COOK.
Counterkulture ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:21:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well apparently YOUUUUUU didn't see the episode where the guy dropped a tbone on the floor, and then fucking PLATED it for the judges after they saw him do it and he knew they saw him do it.
farrenkm ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:28:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So how do they choose which plates go to which judges? One of those plates ends up hidden for the reveal. The plate with the dropped steak could be the reveal plate. No one has to eat it.
Counterkulture ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:37:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know how that works. I remember it being a big steak/piece of meat, so I'm assuming cutting it up to top on something else.
I just remember immediately knowing he was going to be CHOPPED when i saw that.
larbucks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it was actually ribs... Unless it happened twice lol
Counterkulture ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:22:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, you're probably right.
Armorend ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:54:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember there was this one guy that was a complete fucking snob. The way he spoke to the judges, and treated the other contestants... You'd fucking think he was scripted. This was a few years back and he was so painful to listen to it was cringe-y.
greenlikethecolour ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:20:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was that the one who voted no to letting the judges taste one of the other chef's components that she'd forgotten to plate? Because if so fuck that guy. All the others were fine with it and he's like "I just don't think it's fair" or something.
Armorend ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:33:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's the guy! Yeah!
He was just a complete dick to the other competitors. Like okay yeah you're not the only one who wants to win, calm the fuck down.
Also thankfully he got beat out in like the dessert round. Fuck him. :v
Missymay2002 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:01:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I remember watching an episode (might have been chopped Canada) where there was this really snobby guy that was completely full of himself. Talking about how he is a celebrity chef, has cooked numerous meals for the queen of England... etc. etc. Like he had no doubt in his mind that he was going to win. He ended up losing and in the exit interview he looked like he was in complete disbelief. Mumbled a few things that I can't remember that generally pissed me off. He also sabotaged this other chick who looked like the sweetest woman over who was struggling because she was distracted by her son being ill. She ended up winning which made me pretty happy. I really hope it was real, if my memory is correct she was a cooking instructor.
Don't remember his (sir douchebag's) name, but I remember during the intro he had a plate of bone marrow (or maybe it was on the actual show?) Literally it was a giant chunk of bone marrow in the bone about the size of a forearm with a few raw veggies beside it.
Armorend ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:42:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bone appetit. :)
Missymay2002 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you just
xLabrinthx ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:45:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We binge watch Chopped all the time. The puff pastry guy was nuts.
"THIS IS WHAT WE GET FOR PUFF PASTRY?! REALLY? SERIOUSLY?"
66666thats6sixes ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:12:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember one contestant who clearly thought one of the ingredients was beneath him (it was some kind of candy) and spent the whole time making smarmy comments about how he would never eat such a thing himself.
Dude the show is about giving you weird stuff and seeing what you come up with. If you want to make filet minion go find another show.
Armorend ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:39:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's my confusion with the show: If you want to be on it, you have to be prepared for anything. There's fucking vegans who've had to work with meat, Jews who had to work with pork, and people with food allergies that don't prevent them from working with it but can cause problems if consumed (As far as I know; I may be incorrect there).
At the very least, the latter two apply. Get the fuck over yourself.
In general, I'm always baffled by people who do something but then complain that a fairly-obvious feature of that something is a problem or bothering them.
abloopdadooda ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:15:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was it on Chopped where there was a contestant that had an allergy to one of the ingredients so he had to ask other contestants what the food tasted like and make a dish only on that information? He couldn't taste-test his own dish during preparation either because of it. (This is only second-hand information I saw a few times here on reddit which is why I'm unsure.)
delmar42 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:10:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I watched an episode recently that had 4 people on it representing various religious faiths. One was a Jewish man who very strictly observed Kosher rules. Since the kitchen itself wasn't Kosher, he couldn't taste any of his food. He asked the nice nun next to him to taste his food a couple of times. Once, she suggested he should add some salt. He didn't, and the judges later called him out on a lack of salt. It was a pretty cool episode.
neutron_stars ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:32:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oooh, I was wondering why that was. I heard the "...not kosher" part, but couldn't tell what wasn't kosher.
I want to know if they'd have played the Hallelujah Chorus if the rabbi won or if they had another song ready.
Armorend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can't give you specifics about what you asked, but I do know that the aforementioned religious/vegan individuals would comment on their inability to ensure their food was of a fair quality due to personal or spiritual philosophy preventing it.
CrossFox42 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:59:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is. The contestants get a list of what might be in baskets so they can pre plan, but it's like Iron Chef, they have no idea what combinations of indlgrediants they will get.
kidawesome ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:28:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder about Cutthroat Kitchen
psycho_admin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:26:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of my sister was on that show and she said it was almost exactly like you see on the show. The one bit she did complain about is they milk you to try to come up with some sort of sad story as the reason you want to win, like "my kid brother has cancer", or "i'm doing this to prove everyone wrong after being a drug addict", etc.
UnNumbFool ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:19:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually once met one of the people who buys the food for the baskets, they buy the stuff that morning before filming and the people really don't know what is going to be in the baskets.
Also, apparently there is plenty of leftovers after the show and the general staff is allowed to eat it at the end of the day
visualisewhirledpeas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's real but it's not fair. My brother was on it, and he was the last chef to present his dish. The judges complained that it was dried out. No shit, it was sitting under a heat lamp for the past 45 minutes, of course it wouldn't seem as "fresh" as the first presenter.
Also, the chef with the biggest sob story won.
He doesn't regret his experiences, but the judging wasn't on an even playing field.
OctavianX ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:10:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The panel all take initial tastes of the food off camera immediately after the round ends so they can assess it the way it was meant to be served.
ryebreadryan ยท 360 points ยท Posted at 18:05:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The one thing that annoys in cooking competition shows is that every team ALWAYS finishes at the very last second. Never will you see someone not finish on time and present a crappy unfinished meal and you will also never see someone finish 10 minutes early and wait around like a jackass for the others to finish.
thunderling ยท 292 points ยท Posted at 18:19:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The one time I saw this happen on Chopped, the judges tore into the guy for wasting the last two minutes standing around instead of seeing what else he could do to improve his dish.
jest28000 ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 22:36:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Saw someone do this and decide to make them all a drink.
skineechef ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 22:09:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly.. improve garnishes, rethink the plating. Just trick the normal viewer by furiously zesting a lemon or chopping the fuck out of some parsley, shredding a wheel of parmesan, something!
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:01:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As somebody who works in video production... these cooking shows are either a mind bending spectacle of videography or very deliberate and staged contest.
blaghart ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 01:10:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite thing is when they switch from one shot to a shot that should be on the exact opposite side of it but neither shot includes the opposing camera man.
Ruinga ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:56:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Filmed by ghosts. That's why you can't capture them on film, they have the cameras!
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 21:09:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God the judge on chopped suck
If the dish is done it's done
ThriceGreatestHermes ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 22:56:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You just know he would have gotten grief either way.
"I saw you adding something right at the end, did you originally plan to put Paprika on this?".
"No but I finished with extra time so.."
"So you decided to undercut the dish you planned and executed because you were faced with extra time and weren't confident enough in what you prepared to just let it sit?"
colloquy ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:27:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a good boy, Joshua, you're learning.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:26:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ya the audience loves drama so the judges bitch about acidity and foreign stuff they don't know
whoreoleo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:27:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Zakarian is the fucking worst with shit like this.
slvrbullet87 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 15:04:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Alex is way worse than him. Her whole job on the show is to sit there with resting bitch face and then tear apart every contestant.
JediGuyB ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:03:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Couple of the judges bug me because they always have something negative to say even when everyone else gives the dish nothing but praise.
I guess it is probably the producers wanting to give a "Simon Cowell moment" and it all not be perfect, but it always seems to fall to the same judges. Makes them seen really nitpicky, especially when one of their complaints seems rather trivial.
Ruinga ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:57:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The grill marks on the meat don't intersect to create perfect 90 degree angles. You've been chopped.
LeaveAtticusAlone ยท 214 points ยท Posted at 19:00:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's actually why Chopped is my favorite cooking competition. A lot of contestants regularly don't finish their dish, and present sloppy looking dishes, and some contestants finish early, and get scolded by the judges for not using every second to perfect their dish.
Also, based on contestant reviews, they're actually put on the spot when it comes to their ingredients and have to think of a meal on the fly.
Twizzler____ ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:18:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really enjoy Chopped. My ex loved watching those cupcake shows and you can tell how fake they are, like I'm watching drama on a cupcake competition show, come on now.
sauceEsauceE ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:21:05 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One time I saw a woman finish so early on the desert round that she made herself her own dish at the end and ate it all. It was badass.
She didnt win.
LeaveAtticusAlone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:22:21 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you remember what episode that was?
sauceEsauceE ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:35:58 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No I dont. It might have been one of the old lady challenges. She was a black woman with short hair in her 60s. Pretty sure the other competition was an old lady who ran a mash restaurant.
Chess_Not_Checkers ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:57:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On Chopped they're given 9 possible ingredients for each course in advance of filming. The 3 mystery ingredients are always on the list of 9 so that the chefs have some sort of idea going in.
benksmith ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:31:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
source?
nah, you were just trolling.
a_birthday_cake ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:15:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A few different people said this the last time this thread was posted. Both contestants and staff.
benksmith ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:59:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Alvraen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:16:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's an AMA that a previous contestant did
benksmith ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:00:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
broostenq ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:37:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It pretty clear that the finishing at the last second schtick isn't completely genuine though. Chopped may be a tiny bit more "real" than some other reality cooking shows but only by a hair. Sure there are some chefs who finish early or don't get everything on the plate, but 90% of episodes have the last cut before the 00:00 countdown as the chefs just getting in their final ingredient at the last second, all together then raising their hands. This happens season after season, the exact same shot at the exact same "time."
I don't have concrete proof but since it's on the Food Network and shouldn't be held to any different standards, I have no reason to believe Chopped isn't just as fake as all the other scripted cooking reality shows some other participants in this thread are talking about (though I still enjoy the shit out of it.)
-nautical- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:55:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They have about 15 mins in advance to come up with an idea.
Source: met a guy on a bus in san francisco who went on the show.
ryebreadryan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:08:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is chopped the one with alton brown as a host? If so that is one that I actually enjoy, everything else just seems so overly dramatic for no reason.
jjlegospidey ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 20:23:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's cutthroat kitchen, chopped they get the basket with 4 random ingredients
Stottymod ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:50:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's an interesting show, but I wouldn't judge someone's ability to cook through it, it's more like a game show, with the politics and sometimes random athletics or problem solving. I'm not sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was partially rigged.
pieman2005 ยท 432 points ยท Posted at 18:29:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ive seen both of those things happen on Chopped pretty regularly actually. The finishing early is rare but I've seen a lot of contestants not plate their food in time.
hexane360 ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 21:36:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the finishing early is a lot more common than the editing makes it seem. You can regularly see it cut from early plating to garnish as it counts down the last 10 seconds. I assume a lot of those shots were taken much earlier and then re ordered
Bear_faced ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 22:45:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that show feels a lot more real because sometimes their chicken just doesn't cook in time or they plate rice that's barely cooked.
On shows like Kitchen Nightmares it seems like it's impossible for them to finish and yet everyone somehow does. On Chopped if you start way too late, your food is raw or not on the plate.
the_number_2 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:32:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From what I've read, Chopped is one of the most authentic shows. The "rules" are actually followed during taping.
bardatwork ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:24:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was going to say the same about Cupcake Wars
812many ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:31:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On cutthroat kitchen, too.
SerendipityHappens ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:34:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's part of the excitement of the show, though. Maybe even that part is scripted, because they've already decided who is going to "win."
Straydog1018 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:33:36 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never seen that show. Sounds like its better then Hells Kitchen though where both teams finish at the same time AND everyone manages to plate their food perfectly in the last 10 second of the countdown.
Jaylous ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:15:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, ive seen a cooking competition where a girl didnt plate her entire meal, because she put it on the wrong plates. I think the finishing early isnt as rediculous as you would think, especially when the judges are watching. If you dish wasnt perfect and you finish early i would think it would look bad, and also i think people have a pretty good idea on how long stuff will take to cook, and their isnt alot of time to begin with, so they plan to finish closer to the end to have the food be as fresh as possible. and they prob spend a good bit of time plating when they can since it counts.
jedify ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:19:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Are the contestants on Chopped really supposed to get the list of ingredients right before time starts, then they improv? If so, I'm calling bullshit, they never show anyone sitting around thinking, freaking out about what to make (that I've seen). They all just go rushing off once time starts, even on the kid's version.
YouOnlyStrokeOnce ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:45:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a fast paced competition. Of course they go rushing, but they're freaking out during. That's like all you hear them say in the interviews. "These ingredients suck and I have no idea what to make so I'm winging it."
voxpandorapax ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:52:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My best friend is a chef and he has gone on several interviews where he gets a mystery basket and has to make a dish on the fly as his interview so it's likely something they have done before.
Anna_Strophe ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:56:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're chefs, running around and figuring things out on the fly is what they do. Even if they're not exactly sure what to do with all their ingredients they'll probably spot out something they'll immediately have an idea for and can start grabbing stuff
the_number_2 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:36:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not that difficult to whip something up as the main basis for the dish: bake, satueรฉ/fry, grill, boil. So when they see the main "protein", for example, they already know how they're going to START preparing it, which buys them some time to get creative.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 23:15:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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jkersey ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:55:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not true at all.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:22:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've definitely seen at least one cooking show where a contestant got ripped a new one for serving undercooked meat. Not just poorly plated but straight up, not finished cooking to the point of being a health hazard.
raviary ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:51:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've noticed the fake editing of that on Masterchef. In the background of someone else's shot you'll see a contestant plating their chicken or whatever then five minutes later watch them do it again from a different angle "at the last second".
RosieEmily ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 11:13:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen that happen on GBBO. Sometimes they have someone that finished early so they help out someone else who is struggling and I've also seen them present a bake that they've barely had time to throw together on a plate.
TextOnScreen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:42:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen both of those situations in Top Chef.
jonker5101 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:42:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You must not watch a lot of Chopped, those things happen all the time.
Straydog1018 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:32:28 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hells Kitchen fan by any chance? Haha your totally right. In all of the episodes in all of the season of that show, I haven't seen 1 instance of the two teams that compete finishing early or late. They always finish at the exact same time and it really makes you stop and realize how fake what you are watching is. And to add to your point, they also always show members of both teams FRANTICALLY rushing to finish their dishes as a 30 second countdown ensues and it always shows people literally finishing preparing their dishes the second the time runs out. So your telling me that not only have both teams finished at the same time in every challenge for the hundreds of episodes, they also have all finished plating their meals in the last 5 seconds of the countdown? Lmfao
kerred ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought that too, but being the efficient person that I am, I would always make use of every minute if I could. My guess is most finish with maybe with a few minutes to spare, and then make it look like the last second.
aannnnaabanana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Great ____ Bake Off you see this ! Most do finish at the last second, but I have seen unfinished dishes presented, as well as finishing early and helping others, sitting watching.
Chouzetsu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:41:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Five... Four... Three... finishing touches Two... ONE every single chef jerks their hands away like they just ran out of time
Like do they really expect us to believe it every single time?
MandMcounter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Like the timer in Galaxy Quest.
thunderclapMike ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:22:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then you have never watched masterchef Australia. I have seen that happen several times.
SP_57 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen both those things happen on Iron Chef America.
I wonder how real that show is?
tmking9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:40:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then you watch cutthroat kitchen. People don't finish all the time or even have like a 5 course BBQ meal cooked but not judge except for his beans and corn because it was not on the plate yet. The thing is you don't want to be done to early so the temperature will still be right.
eat_me_now ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Both of those things happen on Cutthroat Kitchen!
dreamqueen9103 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At 5 second left they're still stirring the pot, somehow in 5 seconds they get it plated and with a garish.
DeweyBeatTruman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:40:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well they just know how to time everything so it's all finished cooking at the same time. You probably do this at home without realizing it. You don't make all your mashed potatoes first and THEN stick your roast in the oven for an hour, ya know?
inceee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:17:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also when they do that 'surprise' round where the judge asks you to do souffle or stuff. Hell, what if I don't know how to make a souffle? Why does every contestant seem to know all the recipes in the world?
Rabid_Chocobo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:20:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whaat? All of these things happen a lot on chopped. Most of the time it's the latter- sometimes people just throw shit on their plate, leaving a mess. Hardly anyone finishes early because they barely have enough time to make the dish in the first place, any extra time is spent making a sauce or something
raindropsonmarigolds ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:03:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Happened on Cutthroat Kitchen. One guy didn't finish plating his BBQ. All he had time to plate was beans. Sometimes people forget to take things out of the oven.
delmar42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen plenty of folks not finish on time. They leave something on the stove or in the oven. They forget a basket ingredient. They do finish all of their ingredients, but don't leave enough to plate correctly, so basically just throw everything on the plate and it all looks like crap.
GamingJay ยท 747 points ยท Posted at 14:43:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reality TV feels like the new wrestling to me. Most people know it's totally fake, though some defend it as real. But either way it draws a consistent audience
the_eric ยท 998 points ยท Posted at 15:50:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No one defends wrestling as "real" in the way you are thinking of "real". Yes, the outcome is predetermined, but so was the outcome of Breaking Bad. They don't even attempt to tell people the stories are real anymore. The twitter bio of one of their highest ranking executives used to say "I play a bad guy on TV". The cat is out of the bag and they know it.
What is real about wrestling is the toll it takes on the wrestlers bodies. A wrestling ring is not a soft thing to land on. It fucking hurts. And those guys aren't just taking bumps in the ring. They regularly take bumps on cement and metal ramps. While they do all they can to protect each other, it still hurts when they get in the back with a chair or if they jump off the top turnbuckle and land on someone. They don't even have to fuck up for it to hurt. That shit hurts when you do it correctly. They have no off season, no summer hiatus. They are on the road and getting the shit kicked out of them 52 weeks a year.
They don't even get the benefit of reshoots. They have one chance to do what they set out to do. If they fuck up, the crowd will literally start screaming "YOU FUCKED UP" at them. If people would look at the sport without all of the preconceived notions they have about it, they would see that it is very much an artform.
Ervin_Pepper ยท 198 points ยท Posted at 15:54:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously if you look up things like "Worst Wrestling Injuries" on YouTube you see just how much of a physical impact every move has the potential of doing, if it goes even slightly wrong. The results are pre-determined but I feel like calling it "fake" really undermines how much a wrestling match hurts these guys
guitargajoby ยท 77 points ยท Posted at 17:42:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck, I mean, just look at all the shit Mick Foley has had happen to him.
stedudley ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:44:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mick Foley had it easy compared to Mr Socko.
guitargajoby ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:26:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know man, spending a little bit in a dude's shorts, then being thrown to someone in the crowd who will essentially put you in a shrine? Sounds way better than how Mick had it haha
SignInName ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:12:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You mean having to smell Mick Foley's ballsweat?
SPOOFE ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:03:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe Mr. Socko liked it. Who are you to judge Mr. Socko?
TheSixthVisitor ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:29:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a shock that Mick Foley isn't in a wheelchair and drooling by now, considering how often the guy was hit in the head when he was active. Didn't he lose an ear in a botched hangman? And bashed in the face with a chair 11 times in a row back in 1999?
Wrestling is about as fake as extremely over the top method acting. Like blading was a thing for years until WWE banned it. The wrestlers would hide razor blades in their sweatbands and slash their foreheads whenever they got hit with something. I know there's a clip of Eddie Guerrero fucking it up and cutting an artery in his forehead so you could see the blood spurting out like a fountain. Heck, most of the older wrestlers still have scars from the practice.
jaysrule24 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:00:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He ended up with his tooth sticking out of his nose during his Hell in a Cell match with Taker in 98. Don't try to tell me "wrestling is fake."
TheSixthVisitor ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:48:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, the storylines and match outcomes are all staged but honestly, it's pretty much just for safety's sake. The way these guys beat on each other for a faked match with a really big paycheck is already insane. Imagine what they would do to each other if the outcomes weren't planned out and there was actually some meaning behind the belts and titles.
MMA is already ridiculous and they don't have heavy metal things to throw at each other. Wrestling matches would look like crime scenes at the end of every show.
jaysrule24 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:31:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If they were actually doing that stuff to each other, pro wrestling would've been shut down a long time ago, due to the insane death rate.
guitargajoby ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:45:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have y'all seen Brother Devon's forehead? It looks like hamburger meat
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:15:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is a reason he is the hardcore legend.
Dizmn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:39:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's so addled now that a couple days ago his earnest, long, and generally very interesting facebook posts were replaced with a nonstop torrent of clickbait links.
It's definitely a concussion symptom and Mick didn't blatantly sell out to some utter shit clickbait site, right?
guitargajoby ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:05:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How is five posted links (only two of which are clickbait) since May 24th "a nonstop torrent of clickbait links"?
Dizmn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:12:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Interesting, looks like he's posting and deleting. He just posted another link to providr 5 minutes ago, here's a screenshot of the comments section: http://i.imgur.com/sXdTa7Q.jpg
You can see other people voicing complaints about the clickbait, despite it not showing up in his posting history. My newsfeed has been swamped with providr links from Mick, he's posting, at a rough estimate, a dozen or so a day.
EDIT: Since I posted this, the Mick Foley page has removed the post that I posted the comments section screenshot from, and replaced it with a different providr link (This one also filled with people begging mick to stop with the spam). So, this is Mick right now, I guess.
justyourbarber ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:23:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just look at Chris Benoit.
SillyMangos ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:36:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck that one hurts. Chris Benoit and Eddie Guerrero were my absolute favorite wrestlers growing up (back when I watched WWF/WWE). Their lives ended up going so horribly wrong. At least I can still watch Eddie's old matches. I can't stomach watching any Benoit matches anymore.
shinypretty ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:41:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Owen Hart, yo. Oh man.
chesire2050 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:50:16 on September 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I once saw a meme that had for wrestlers who'd died, and asked which you would bring back/prevent their death. I said Eddie. Because if Eddie hadn't died, The WWE wouldn't have been what it was... Eddie's death pushed Benoit over an edge.. Maybe Eddie would have caught it? Or Maybe Chris would have went to Eddie and gotten help? Eddie being alive would effect a lot of wrestlers... Ziggler and Edge because Vickie wouldn't have her Career.. Chavo possibly being treated with respect...
nizon ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:16:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not fake, it's a stunt show.
bv310 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:22:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Triple H's quad rolling up like an old-timer curtain is painful to watch
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:42:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Totally. Hell, just watch Undertaker throw Mankind off the top of the cell, or Edge spear Jeff Hardy off the ladder, or even from this past December when Kalisto gave one of the Usos Solida Del Sol(hope I spelled that right) off the top of a ladder. Fucking crazy shit that could end your career if you fuck up
the_scruffy_janitor ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:14:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you haven't seen Sid break his leg before, boy are in for a treat
Dr_Fundo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:27:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I say this as a person who can watch NSFW all the time and it's like nothing. Having said that, it's the only time I actually felt sick. Why you ask, because he wasn't doing anything dangerous. Just landed and his leg decided it didn't want to play anymore and snapped in half.
For those who are looking for something more recent, think of Kevin Ware. Basically the same exact thing.
teefour ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:45:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You never know when you could be injured too. Sometimes mistakes just fall out of the sky.
ZubatCountry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A guy named Enzo Amore recently got the scariest looking injury I've ever seen watching live and it came from him messing up on being thrown under the ropes of all things.
He caught wrong, whiplashed back and gave himself such a massive concussion that he didn't move the entire rest of the time he was on camera and looked like he had broken his neck.
Another guy named Neville broke his leg doing a baseball slide, he usually does flips that I've never seen anyone else pull off as crisply multiple times a match.
It's bizarre how badly injured they can get from the smallest mistake. Shout out to Randy Orton for blowing out his shoulder doing his own taunt, and doing the same thing taking out the trash.
dsmaxwell ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:00:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I prefer the term "choreographed."
MingusDoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Owen Hart giving Stonecold Steve Austin a tombstone piledriver. He ends up fucking his neck up bad.
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKYYsg-jMfU
Story: http://prowrestlingstories.com/pro-wrestling-stories/austinbrokenneck/
Unheroic_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, wrestling can definitely fuck a guy up. I distinctly recall seeing Prescription Thugs(?) on US Netflix and it delved into it quite a bit. Anyways, head injuries and painkiller addictions are common in that sport.
lic05 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just search "WCW Sid injury" on YouTube, you can't fake that.
RudeHero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
agreed.
people call it fake because, 30 years ago, the WWF pretended all of the storylines were actual fueds between the performers (i.e., the kayfabe was "real") etc. etc.
the general population hasn't caught up with the fact that when the WWE calls wrestling "real" they mean it's a real performance art, which it is
chesire2050 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:42:58 on September 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
See also: Sid Viscious's injury
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:41:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
About as entertaining as daytime soap operas.
Halvus_I ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:44:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thats great, but it doesnt change anything about the fake drama they generate in the name of entertainment.
SadSniper ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:36:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's the same shit with UFC or Boxing. It's called Hype.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 21:06:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They are trying to pretend to fall on another guy without injuring him. That is fake. It is fake wrestling.
Real wrestling the worst injuries would all be on the other guy, not on yourself trying to miss him.
victoriaseere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Take a 15 ft fall landing through a table on your back and then report back.
[deleted] ยท -20 points ยท Posted at 17:07:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It may be athletic and risky, but it's still fake. Jump off the top rope and land your knee on someones head and nobody goes to the hospital? Not very authentic to me.
the_eric ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:38:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure if you missed the part where I wrote " They don't even have to fuck up for it to hurt. That shit hurts when you do it correctly". Go stand on a four and a half foot ledge then jump off knee first. You can't fake gravity.
Wrestling isn't a fucking documentary. It's a connection of stories that are woven together by incredibly talented stuntmen and women. If you don't like it, that's cool, but you are going out of your way to be an ignorant asshole about the subject. You are more than welcome to do that, but don't get confused and think that it means your opinion means shit.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:31:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, the stunts are well done, and the people are talented at what they're doing... but "a connection of stories that are woven together"? The writing and acting on display in wrestling make porn productions look well written. It's popcorn entertainment.
[deleted] ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 20:05:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Collection of stories woven together? Sounds fake to me.
I could care less what you watch or enjoy, don't confuse yourself with language trying to back up your opinion.
drxc ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:20:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
The Walking Dead is fake too but nobody feels the need to post on reddit about how the zombies are just people in makeup. Why is is that non-wrestling fans feel the need to constantly point out that it is fake. We fucking know.
What winds up the wrestling fans is that it's like you are saying "it is fake, therefore worthless" while watching hours of scriptwritten fake TV series and thinking it's the bomb.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:36:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because the argument was that it isn't fake.
Wawoowoo ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 23:02:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's the kayfabe for The Walking Dead? Do they dress people up as promotional zombies and pretend it's real?
shinypretty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you know how many wrestlers have died in the ring?
13, that I can ID.
That's not fake.
victoriaseere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:23:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's fake only inasmuch as it's not fighting qua intention to actually harm the other person/people. Nobody really thinks it is though. It's openly closer to some along the lines of extreme dancing: choreographed, but highly athletic and dangerous nonetheless.
IvanKozlov ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:17:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're right. It's totally fake.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9hMp65SzyTU
geraldo42 ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 17:28:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean you can see the mats in that video . . . I'm sure it hurt like hell and any sort sport like that is dangerous but I don't know what point you're trying to make.
IvanKozlov ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:30:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When people call wrestling "fake", they are referring to the very fact that the "competition" element of the entire thing is scripted, and that no actual sport is occurring.
You are being pedantic on purpose.
It's no different to scripted reality TV. The fact that they're talented stuntmen doesn't suddenly absolve all that criticism.
IvanKozlov ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you read his post? It's clear that's not what he meant.
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 17:33:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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IvanKozlov ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:36:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People in stage plays have strings attached to prevent injuries when they take falls. I'm not the one who doesn't know the definition of fake here. I bet you're one of the guys who thinks they use mostly blood packets too and don't know about the practice of cutting, aren't you?
the_eric ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:40:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At this point, you are just going out of your way to be ignorant.
josh_the_misanthrope ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 17:35:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, he was probably one of the kids arguing it was real in middle school. I get where he's coming from but he seems a little butthurt over the semantics of the word fake.
IvanKozlov ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:37:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, sweetheart, I wasn't. I just get irritated when people under sell what these people do. There's a reason a lot of them end up addicted to pain killers and die from it. Or wind up with CTE and go crazy like Chris Benoit did.
drxc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They get annoyed because when you call they thing they like fake they feel like you are calling it worthless.
HersheyTheWonderDog ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:41:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think what hes trying to say is although its staged you cant really fake the action he took. The term fake is just broad. Its fake as in its theatre and deceptive. But none of the actions they do are truly fake. Even though there were mats there, mick foley lost a tooth and it came out of his nose. So there was a fake/planned demonstration... but in no way is what he did not risky or foolproof
geraldo42 ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 18:45:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah it's a semantic argument for sure but really an absurd one. No one is trying to say these guys aren't athletes or impressive performers but insisting over and over again that WWE is "real" just seems like a weird fanboyism. It's like someone watching a soap opera insisting it's real because the actors are crying real tears.
HersheyTheWonderDog ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:55:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You are giving too much faith in peoples common sense, a lot of people give it no credit. Its immediately dismissed cause "its fake" when everything on Tv except some of the news is "fake"
bv310 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it more comes from the very negative connotations of "fake". Think "that's a fake watch" vs "that's a replica watch". People who watch wrestling get a lot of shit for it, so they tend to get pretty defensive about language used.
shinypretty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:39:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
deep breath
I'm trained in stage combat. We don't do what wrestlers do, except on a VERY small scale. We pull our punches, we pull our kicks, we orient ourselves in relation to the audience so a hit looks real when it's inches away.
That doesn't happen in wrestling. That shit is full-contact.
discostu10 ยท 95 points ยท Posted at 16:46:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Could not agree more. I remember watching the rock repeatedly smash mankind in the head with a metal chair until his forehead opend up like bloody hamburger. Sure we knew that it was scripted but that was some real ass shit. Mick Foley earnd his paycheck that day. .it was almost hard to watch
grumpyoldham ยท 80 points ยท Posted at 17:35:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Foley earned his paycheck every day.
If you haven't read Have a Nice Day I highly recommend it.
IAmWhatTheRockCooked ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:36:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL im just bloody hamburger.
DeviantSka ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:20:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that was crazy. In his book, he talks about how his wife and kids were at that show and they had no idea that was going to happen. Apparently they were supposed to go to Disneyland after that and he didn't know how to tell them that they had to "watch daddy get the shit beat out of them before they could go."
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:18:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The camera panned to them at one point and his children and his wife were full on bawling while the mom tried to close the kids eyes
chesire2050 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:56:00 on September 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, they also show that during "Beyond the Mat".
mrtweek ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:36:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except the incident you're referring was not necessarily scripted. IIRC Rock was supposed to hit Foley 2-3 times in the head.. not 11.. with his hands cuffed behind his back... Mick was pissed at Rock for a long time after that.
DeviantSka ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:22:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought Foley said in his book that he told Rock to keep going when he hit him? I could be wrong though, it's been forever since I read it. I do remember it was originally supposed to be only a couple times, though.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:17:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And IIRC The Rock didn't apologize until a few years back
weaksaucedude ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:57:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I still refuse to watch Beyond The Mat because of a part in it where Mick's family is front row watching The Rock smash a chair on their father's head a million times.
discostu10 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:22:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup. A bunch of us chipped in to get that pay per view. It was good at first ,and y3s im aware wrestlers would pre scratch their forehead for faster blood show, but it just went on to the point where it was just ridiculous...kind of like on family guy where stewie goes "mum. Mum. Mum. Mummy. Mama..mama..mum.mum.mummummy. funny at first but hard to watch
Jeepersca ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:45:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I was young, my brother put on wrestling and someone's elbow dislocated... it's entirely possible they were "double jointed" or whatever, but I kid you not, they replayed it - from 20 different angles (so they must have known it was coming...) dozens of times. After the 3rd time of seeing it bulge out, I couldn't hack it so I ran to the next room. My brother kept watching, every time he'd cry out in disgust I'd yell from the other room. That was about it for my wrestling-watching career.
Those were probably the good old days where someone's perfectly normal body movement sufficed, the amount of beating, bashing, and mayhem now... ugh. I guess I'm not wired to watch people get bruised up, lol.
Joetato ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:03:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or Mick getting tossed off the Cell during Hell in a Cell. Though he doesn't really like talking about that anymore because he feels like it's the only thing the fans associate with him. Everyone wants to know about him being thrown off the cell. He's done much more in his career than be nearly killed by The Undertaker.
If I ever meet him, I'm going to act all excited to ask him about his most extreme moment.... then talk about that time he put a guy in a 10 minute headlock in the original ECW. (as part of an anti-hardcore angle)
GEARHEADGus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:46:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hes super nice, He's like a giant teddy bear. Loves the fans.
chesire2050 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:58:43 on September 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
See, I LOVE that... It's like what I swear I'll do if I ever meet Colt Cabana... Say I wanna ask him about someone... and then go "What is Matt Classic REALLY like?" or meet Punk and ask What Colt is REALLY like?
Tufflaw ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:32:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mick's family was in the audience for that one
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 19:21:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Those chairs are like cookie sheets. Try hitting yourself with a cookie sheet while recording it. See? It looks like it would hurt but it doesn't. Now take a ton of advil to thin your blood and make a small cut with a razor just at your hair line. Put a cloth on it for a few minutes just so its not ripping blood. Not press record and hit yourself repeatedly with the cookie sheet. Perfectly safe and fun for anyone of any age to try at home. If you send it to the WWF you might even get on TV. I did!
Dorskind ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You think it was all real blood?
Danny5223 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:34:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was
chesire2050 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:57:10 on September 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They show Mick getting Stitches afterwards for Beyond the Mat... so yeah
ArinHansonGradually ยท 316 points ยท Posted at 16:11:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ITS REAL TO ME DAMMIT!
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:11:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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eromitlab ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:34:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
damn it
jonnyclueless ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 17:11:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember doing live sound for a WWF event once. The guys doing lighting nearby where shouting and hollering for their favorite person. I stopped them and showed them the list of who would win and lose and they just stood there with their jaws wide open. Apparently these grown people had no idea it was rigged despite being involved in it.
I asked them how did they think I knew which music to play for the winner?
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:31:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 17:39:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
(I think he's lying. The story sounds perfectly made up).
Maldetete ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:19:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He did say WWF event, so this may have been many years ago. Perhaps things were different back then.
JoeFalchetto ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:31:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kind of a dick move, to be honest.
afganistanimation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, way to ruin these guys' fantasies, jerk....
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:38:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe they were just confused because the sound guy doesn't realize that they know that, and that that's not really the point of wrestling.
ArinHansonGradually ยท -23 points ยท Posted at 18:31:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
What is the point? A soap opera for teen males and man children or a gay battle for hot gold? If it's the former admit it is what it is, and the latter, congratulations my homosexual friend, you enjoy hot, sweaty in shape guys rubbing their bodies together in spandex with dirty talk.
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:39:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay, I think you might be projecting a little bit here.
[deleted] ยท -24 points ยท Posted at 18:43:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:45:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let it out man, let it out.
ArinHansonGradually ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 18:48:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's only gay if you push back. So you like Super Smash Bros or not?
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:19:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looking at your username I have to wonder if you're doing that thing where people slowly move into a persona or gimmick or something like slowly starting to speak gibberish as the chain progresses or something, if that's the case I wonder how many more times you'll be able to respond before you forget how to post because nothing shouted at you what to click to post, or if it did, you didn't listen.
ArinHansonGradually ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 20:42:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, how you doing?
ArinHansonGradually ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 17:15:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's crazy to think its real besides injuries. That's wicked cool though!
If you make a sign, get drunk and dress up as wrestlers, drink a bit more and get nachos. It's a fun as hell time.
san_serifs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:30:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's on TV, so it must be real.
weezel365 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think you're Arin Hanson
orionsbelt05 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:01:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just wait for it...
DiscordianStooge ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:04:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the problem is with describing it as a sport. It's obviously an impressive athletic performance, but most people think of sports as competitions with an unknown outcome. WWE is more akin to an improv "Cirque du Soleil."
kenba2099 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:35:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is what I try to explain to people. It's basically the lowbrow version of ballet. An athletic performance with a script where you're there to be entertained, not to see who is the best competitor (in the strictest sense).
mrcelophane ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:31:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's classified as "Sports Entertainment" not a "sport"
DiscordianStooge ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:45:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The person I responded to called it a sport. It's not really "classified" as anything. I'm pretty sure Vince McMahon created the phrase "Sports entertainment."
Jaxon12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't consider it a sport and I'm a huge fan.
teenagesadist ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 16:12:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're telling me that the undertaker threw mankind off the top of an actual cage? Pssh, yeah, right.
TonyBeFunny ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 16:27:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
BAGAHDKING!!! HE IS DEAD!!!
mrbolt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:18:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
AS GOD AS MY WITNESS HE'S BROKEN IN HALF!
jaysrule24 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:07:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
SOMEBODY STOP THE DAMN MATCH!
eromitlab ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:35:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
HE'S GETTING WHUPPED LIKE A GOVERNMENT MULE!
popemasta ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:52:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You mean through the cage, onto thumbtacks 20 feet below.
Cpt_Matt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:56:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was actually a mistake, the cage roof wasn't supposed to fall through at that point.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:11:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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SignInName ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:26:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I clicked the first one, with a fair amount of skepticism.
Wasn't disappointed.
Crusty_white_sock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Max Landis out of nowhere!
nothing_in_my_mind ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:49:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like action movies with more ridiculous plots and better stunts.
Pastor_Tim ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:19:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like somebody didn't grow up in the 70s. Every kid in my junior HS swore it was real and I was a fool for disbelieving. Like I was a flat-Earther or something.
silvermember ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:51:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What year is this again?
Loongeg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But the original comment referd to it as "the new wrestling" implying that wrestling used to be believed as real in the past, not in the present
Crassusinyourasses ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:07:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a buddy once explained to me "You know what's also fake? Action movies. Bruce Willis can't do 75% of what you see on film IRL. When you see the Big Show flip a car it might not have an engine in it but he did just flip that thing. Wrestling is a live action drama with just the right amount of plot and dialogue."
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:24:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In all fairness there was a time it was considered "real"
Let me explain
You used to be able to bet on wrestling match outcomes, and there are tons of videos on youtube where someone gets legit smacked for asking a pro wrestler if it was fake. It wasn't until the 90's they had to actually come and say it was fake, and re label it as "sport entertainment". So yes, at one point and time, it was an actual debate if it was real or not, and best believe a lot thought it was legit real.
Their poor bodies do go through the ringer though, despite not actually getting tombstone piledrive'ed on their head. But shit, even if the match is fake, shit like mick foley getting tossed 3 stories off of the hell in a cell onto a table, was sure as shit real. That can't be good for ya, even if you and your buddy set it up.
Takes2ToTNGO ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:59:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You still can.
weaksaucedude ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:58:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The only people who think it's "real" are little kids who haven't realized it yet, but non-fans still feel the need to tell fans "You know this is fake, right?"
Irishman318 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:12:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wrestling isn't Wrestling, by Max Landis
Blessing727 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:10:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My moms sister married hector Guerrero who's the brother of Eddie Guerrero. Both wrestlers. One night I went over to hectors house and politely asked him if wrestling was real. He body slammed me hard and knocked the wind out of me. I was 15 years old. Also, when he saw me and my cousin swimming in the pool he called us a couple of beached Whales. He made my cousin write a long essay on how fat he was and put it on his door and made him read it each night. He made my cousin eat right and my cousin did lose weight but now that hectors gone my cousin weighs about 600 pounds. My cousin associates being thin with the bullshit of hector. Weird ass story, huh.
X4changX ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:27:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's impressive, just not interesting. What they do doesn't change the outcome, even most of the fight is choreographed (correct me if I'm wrong). You can compare it to a TV-Show, but I wouldn't watch a TV-Show about a bunch of guys wrestling for no real reason.
Tufflaw ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:44:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Choreography depends on the wrestlers, some are better at improvising than others. Hulk Hogan notoriously had to plan every single move in his matches. Other wrestlers are able to work off each other.
keokhaos ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:52:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Shinsuke Nakamura/Sami Zayn match is a great example of a match called 100% in the right as it happened. One of my favorite this year
DeviantSka ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:26:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to be huge into wrestling, and yeah some parts of the matches are choreographed, but all the best guys know to shake things up. They'll call audibles all the time and do things they didn't plan on because they know how to read the crowd and know what they want. I feel that's a talent by itself.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:36:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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josh_the_misanthrope ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:36:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. Buddy of mine calls watching wrestling "watchin' my soaps". He's full on aware of the chezball plot and fakeness but he enjoys it regardless.
lupuscapabilis ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I tend to think worse about adults who watch cartoons than those who watch wrestling. At least something impressive is going on in wrestling, and it's done live for the most part. Even that's impressive. But if I meet someone who loves American Dad I'm completely mystified.
SadSniper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:41:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You sound incredibly shallow
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:17:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The cat has been out of the bag since the '80's why are you talking about Twitter? Ever since Hogan's scandal. There was literally no question for decades. I also don't get why BB is relevant here but okay.
The rest of the stuff is just par for the course with anyone doing stunt acting. We don't really call that a sport last I checked. Wrestling is nothing but entertainment.
atomicboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:25:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actually, the ring floor is the best place to land. I saw one set up once and it has a tremendous amount of give. But you are correct, it probably still hurts. Cement floors and steel posts? Oww! They try to pull it but sometimes they hit things harder than they meant to.
jaysrule24 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:13:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Mankind vs Undertaker Hell in a Cell match at King of the Ring 1998 is probably the best counterexample to "wrestling is fake" ever. Mankind for throw off of the Cell through a table, then Chokeslammed through the roof of the Cell onto the ring, and they still continued the match.
MrLevodevo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:33:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They are also responsible for their own health insurance.
Ragnrok ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They haven't for a while, but back in the day the scripted nature of wrestling was a closely guarded secret.
BunnyKimber ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:59:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just started getting into watching Wrestling with a few of my friends, and yeah, they point out when you can see that the wrestlers had to adjust for their opponent missing their mark, or when someone is doing a poor job of selling it. They've also taught me the various roles of the talent, and when something goes horribly off script.
I was watching a PPV event with them when Enzo, part of a tag team, cracked his head on the side of the ring. They could immediately tell something was wrong and explained that since they weren't showing the medics on him that it was a real injury. Turns out the guy got a concussion from something not going right from him being thrown out of the ring.
It's super fun to watch and not at all spontaneous, but jeez watching the way those folks get hit makes me flinch sometimes.
bv310 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Daniel Bryan's story alone should be enough to remind people that it's still a very real physical event.
scots ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
An improperly performed pile driver can literally paralyze or kill someone.
Probably the reason the WWE has even stated during a press conference a few years ago that only two of their performers are authorized to script it into their "matches" - "The Undertaker" and "Kane" - both extremely experienced and among the WWE's tallest and strongest performers.
Properly performed, the "victims" shoulders are supported by the performers legs, their head never touches the mat and no stress is put on the neck.
Improperly performed, the head strikes the mat with body weight behind it, causing all manner of disc compression, bent neck and spine and.. Problems.
A badly performed pile driver partially paralyzed "Stone Cold Steve Austin" , ending his career - in "fake wrestling."
Annnnnd then there's the guy who fell out of a stage flying harness a fell to his death in front of thousands of people.
Airazz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So basically it's as real as a live theatre play. Not very real and the wrestlers stomp on the ground with one foot when hitting the other wrestler's face to make it sound like they're hitting very hard.
NukeTheWhales85 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember in Nick Foleys book him talking about why they used the Mandible Claw for mankind's signature move and it was mainly because his body couldn't take the damage of performing some of his old finishers anymore.
StaleLunch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
''If people would look at the sport without all the...'' - It's not a sport. Artform? Maybe. Sport? No way.
Ideaslug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In the 90s, certain idiots or children would defend it as real. Since then though, the WWE and other organizations just accept they are scripted and don't try to play it off. So nobody to my knowledge these days defends it as real.
sillyjew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:08:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You also get guys like Randy Orton, who live to see how hard they can get away with hitting people.
TheFlyingBogey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Could not fucking agree more. When people say "you know it's not real right?" I always like to reply with "you know Eastenders isn't real right? You know a theatre production is rehearsed and people aren't dying/falling in love in front of you right?".
Entertainment is entertainment. None of it is "fake" or "real", it's rehearsed. The thing that is real, like what has been said, is the toll these wrestlers take on their bodies.
mrsquare ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:13:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree with everything else you said but I guarantee you that some people will defend it as real.
I know that the vast, vast majority of wrestling fans think the same way you do, but I think you're overestimating the public at large.
Y6Y1Y9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:41:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always tell my friends who make fun of wrestling and call it fake to not look at it as a sport and think of it more like a play/theater that's focused on showmanship and improv stunt work (Cause as most of us who know wrestling know, they don't choreograph matches ahead of time) similar to improv comedy shows. They are usually able to respect it a little more. Especially when i tell them, like for WWE, at least it's year round multiple shows a week, no off season.
MrRandomSuperhero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you responded to the wrong aspect of the comment, though I do agree. Professional wrestling is less reality tv and more extreme acrobatics.
Armorend ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:57:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We watched the movie "The Wrestler" for my philosophy class, and it features a washed-up pro wrestler. It's really interesting to see because it shows what I think is a fairly-accurate depiction of that sort of wrestling.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really?
tmoneycurt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:04:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lol this guy grew up thinking wrestling was real
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
The who problem that people have is that it isn't a sport.
To actually be defined as a sport, it has to involve actual competition between two or more people. The fact that it is entirely predetermined with no actual competing taking place eliminates it completely from being it a sport.
At least call it what it is. Entertainment.
Yes, certainly, its lots of work and they are hard working individuals. But when people criticise wrestling, its very much for the reason I just stated - they don't want to see a "pretend" competition. It's redundant.
Wrestling does exist as a sport - a physical activity in which two people compete to overpower each other in a match that isn't predetermined. Popular entertainment's parody of the real thing has made a mockery of it though, and that alone is enough reason for me to dislike the "wrestling" that makes up modern entertainment.
Anything can be "art". That doesn't make it particularly good art.
BigTimStrangeX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:13:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here's a good look. A inch of foam, wood and some giant springs to absorb the impact somewhat.
Even Brock Lesnar said getting tossed on the canvas hurts like hell.
Deathflid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Chris Benoit is proof... Was proof of the toll of wrestling.
cimeryd ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's pretty much how I'm feeling about it. I'm not really excited about who wins or loses, but I'm in awe at the physical display I'm seeing. These men are athletes.
weezel365 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/SquaredCircle has leaked
mmmsoap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure, no one does now, but there was definitely a time when a lot of fans would've been surprised to hear that it was fake. That's where we are now with contest shows. Fast forward 20 years, and no one will think they're remotely real.
I think, in part, shows like Jeopardy! has erased our collective skepticism of games and contests that were tarnished by the shenanigans on shows like Twenty One in the 50s.
Tralan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In the old days there were people in denial of wrestling being real.
SentrySappinMahSpy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The cat is out of the bag because Vince McMahon decided it was better for business for it to be. And he was right.
Most of Reddit is too young to remember, but John Stossell did a story about wrestling on a show called 20/20 back in the 80s.
He asked a wrestler if wrestling was fake. The guy actually slapped Stossell. And I mean hard. I sure can't imagine anything like that happening today.
brownstar45 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sport? I think you mean "acting".
cresstynuts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a soap opera with overly greased up muscle dudes in Speedos. They seem to practice their lines more than their choreography. The chicks on the other hand are much better in every aspect; from acting to choreography to emotion.
Vamking12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It isn't real but it's really hard to do
Dangerouspoop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:48:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No one doubts that they aren't actually athletes it's the overall shittyness and stupidity in wrestling that turn people off.
AraEnzeru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously. As someone who is a fan of and partakes in stage combat, these guys are freaking amazing. I know this isn't any more real than Rambo is, but man is it still impressive to watch.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:23:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like it would literally be too much to ask that the outcome isn't prescripted.
Like, for real. People just aren't allowed to, or don't want to just fight anymore. How much money would it take to just have two guys say fuck it and throw eachother around the ring?
OccasionallyWright ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:44:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not to mention telling kids it's fake is what makes them think they can do it in the backyard without getting hurt.
Dvdrcjydvuewcj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:27:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nowadays yes, but some people used to believe it was real.
sweetehman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:51:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Found the adult wrestling fan.
Halvus_I ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:43:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You are so wrong. It took the better part of a DECADE to get WWF to admit its not real. John Stossel (20/20 reporter) was attacked by a wrestler for intimating that it was all fake. As hes smacking him he says 'Is this fake'?
socsa ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:17:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So they get hurt doing it ...which makes it good?
The3rdWorld ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:29:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yah, i've watched wwf wrestlers rehearse and i've watched dancers rehearse - the only difference is dancers pause to check their make-up less.
Sturgeon_Genital ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:42:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Horse-shit
theundeadturtle ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:49:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't read this, I just saw the text and saw how much effort you put into this so I just threw an update at you
KingSix_o_Things ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:19:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Found Microsoft.
TightwadHill ยท 162 points ยท Posted at 15:45:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except wrestling is actually entertaining to watch when compared to a pregnant teenager bitching at her junkie boyfriend.
UniverseBomb ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:07:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You better not be dissing Teen Mom, that shit is comedy gold!
kanooka ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:37:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the thing is, those people really are those trainwrecks in real life. one of the couples lived in the next town over from me from one of the seasons and for years afterward every once in awhile there would be an article about their domestic disputes. my point being, it's actually more sad than anything else.
UniverseBomb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:12:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's one part Schadenfreude, and two parts fascination. I don't doubt for a second that I'm watching real life edited down. Some of their stories get better, but the crazy part is watching them pick a man who looks just like baby-daddy. Or watching one discover Xanax during a divorce, while the former junkie finally gets her shit together at the same time. It's a drama. And I usually don't feel bad for them, when the same mistakes are made all over again.
I_munch_butts_AMA ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:01:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, that's subjective. I don't find either entertaining.
[deleted] ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:33:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's extremely opinionated. I don't HATE wrestling but I must say Keeping up with the Kardashians is HILARIOUS.
poopcornkernels ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:57:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why does everyone use that as their "I hate reality tv" example? Shows like Intervention and Top Gear are more documentary style but still reality tv and still good. Shows like Project Runway or Face Off are great, you get to see talented people compete to be the best. Don't get me wrong, there's a lot of Dance Moms and Real Housewives garbage out there but anyone who watches realizes it's scripted and stupid. People watch because they're entertained.
Just_For_Da_Lulz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:54:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!
LYossarian13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:29:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone loves trashy.
DeseretRain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:34:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd be very surprised if this exact situation has never been a storyline in wrestling
The_Price_Is_Right_B ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm going to print this and put it on the fridge when my roommates girlfriend comes over.
BfMDevOuR ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:11:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well that's subjective.
stovinchilton ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:53:35 on July 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd rather see a pregnant teenager bitching at her junkie boyfriend.
tulio2 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:11:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wrestling... REAL. moon landing... FAKE
MacDoesReddit ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:41:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
dendawg ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:53:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FTFY
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:05:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
WRESTLING'S...NOT...FAAAAAAKE!!!
ColeSloth ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:35:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm fairly certain the first Survivor season was relatively unscripted. They used that to then figure out how to script everything from then on.
eromitlab ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:36:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man, I thought ultimate robot fighting was real like pro wrestling, but it turns out it's fixed like boxing.
akesh45 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:51:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its more so that its cheap....a skeleton film crew and you can hire non-union writers and actors (since its...'unscripted').
I think they hope for a big hit becuase most flame out pretty quick.
weeping_edward ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
not sure why but read that as "feels like the nan wrestling"
randemeyes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:36:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never thought of it like that, but now that you said it, it all makes sense.
Sturgeon_Genital ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:41:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rasslin is real, them guys really get hurt
Dragonogon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My mom defends it to the ends of the fucking earth and back saying it's real.
smokedspirit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:36:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ROMAN REIGNS IS REAL TO ME!
Just like his muscles...
BlooFlea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:38:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lol well that's a pretty bad example because wrestling is real friend /s
cubanjew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:27:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think anyone older than 18 doesn't know that it's scripted. Despite it being 'fake', it's still entertaining for the same reasons movies are.
Cane-Dewey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:56:12 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most of us wrestling fanatics enjoy the show for what it is, a show.
I mean, Walking Dead and Game of Thrones are fake too, you know....
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:23:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No one thinks wrestling is real, you fucking pleb.
WeaselSlayer ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:25:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's still real to me, dammit!
Itendsinherpes ยท 1463 points ยท Posted at 18:53:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on the second season of a show that was basically a ripoff of The Bachelor. I was 23 at the time and had just finished college and hadn't found a permanent job yet as a legal analyst, so when auditions came around I figured it would be funny if I got picked and no big deal if I didn't.
We started out with probably 2,500 girls or so just in my audition and they narrowed it down to 24 of us. We came back the next day and filmed interviews and segments that would be used as flashbacks during the show. Me and one other girl from my casting call got picked.
Things you don't see:
The producers direct everything. Everything. Even some of the dialogue.
All the drama and most of the arguments are either scripted, added in during post production, or instigated by the producers. We only had like 3 girls out of the whole group not get along well, but the final airing made us all look like total bitches or ditzes even though almost all of us were educated and relatively mature adults.
The guy was a complete doof and a bit pudgy, but in the final airing he always seemed cool and calm and collected and even in scenes with his shirt off he looked more athletic.
During 6 weeks of filming we each spent maybe 6 hours with him one-on-one.
We were encouraged to drink, strip, act inappropriately, and talk about all kinds of juicy topics 24/7. Sometimes the producers would come in the room and just say, "Who here has dated a complete loser? What did he do?" Or "Who is the bitchiest girl you know?" and then use the footage of us discussing those stories to insinuate we were talking about the guy or about other girls in the house.
The house smelled really bad. Like stale booze, in a women's soccer locker room where the garbage disposal hadn't been run in too long.
The guy was also a complete ass. On my first one on one date with him he was sweet, if not a bit odd. We had a lot of fun and had way too much to drink and I ended up hooking up with him. After filming was over I found out he had given me herpes.
[deleted] ยท 1038 points ยท Posted at 20:29:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
GOD DAMMIT
Yes-I-Was-Drunk ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 01:10:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And this is why you should always read the username before reading comments this long.
nomadofwaves ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 22:52:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
After seeing your comment I thought it was /u/_vargas_
cdbriggs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The spider?
pfafulous ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 23:14:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
MOTHERFUCKER
r40k ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:36:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, I don't think the guy was her mother.
Rock_Me-Amadeus ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 09:55:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not gonna lie, that was masterfully done
rhymeswithswitch ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:11:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought he was going to ask her for about tree Fiddy.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:31:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel cheated. I want those 30 seconds back
flatspotting ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:44:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read the whole fucking thing too. God dammit.
SantaAnaXY ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 20:29:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seems that all of your stories end with a case of herpes ... Oh, wait, never mind, user name checks out.
brighterside ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 22:52:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why?
Why devote so much time to writing and ending your story with herpes? I'm legitimately disturbed, angry, and confused.
Mundius ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 23:24:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's exactly the reason why.
FoximusMaximus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:30:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Answered your own question there.
Eugene_Henderson ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:21:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Have you seen UnReal on Lifetime?
Krunklock ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:37:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I thought... Then I realized I was duped.
somedumbscreenname ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:28:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus, that escalated quickly.
F1NANCE ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:29:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dammit vargas...wait, what?
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:05:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't believe I fell for that.
Good show, old man.
TheAndrewBen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:46 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, so the story is fake?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:51:09 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The username is the clue.
GothWitchOfBrooklyn ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:03:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
every time
babeigotastewgoing ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:31:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
sensational.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:24:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ooh, this was a good one.
pleasesir1more ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:22:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You sure get herpes from a lot of people. Rip
Just_For_Da_Lulz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:52:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You son of a bitch, well done.
takelongramen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:19:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That pretty much gave it away for me
cabblue ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:58:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was it Are You The One
Enderman777 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:47:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Username
thunder_struck85 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:40:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh >:-(
IrrationalFraction ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:44:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck FUCK
xPico ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:00:54 on December 19, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
LOL some clickbait reddit farming article posted this story
zipflopomg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:47:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Username checks out.
wawaboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I knew it, those mother fucker producers...fuck them all to hell. Oh ya and the guy who gave you crotch crickets too.
LachsFilet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:32:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Herpes isn't crotch crickets btw
Csquared211 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Username checks out.
That sucks. All of it.
DrPackage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How long does it take to make these?
nearlyadoc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
god fucking dammit
magicjj ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:10:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So, you were on Flavor of Love?
XxXTheCatmanXxX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:33:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
r/unexpected
Vamking12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn herpes
papersupplier ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So typically slut behavior, got it
CrazyPlato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was about to ask you about suing the show for what happened, but then I looked back and saw your username.
Damn you, u/Itendsinherpes, you got me again.
joalca ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:03:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
RIP inbox
jennthemermaid ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:59:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You didn't use a condom with a stranger?
remembercrystalpepsi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:38:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reality TV: the acting is fake; the herpes are real.
bruddahmacnut ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:47:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So basically, the TV show Unreal is true?
batsofburden ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:53:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If that's true, you probably could've sued the show for not having the guy tested for STD's.
cailihphiliac ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:59:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a novelty account. I didn't realise either until the top comment under it was "GOD DAMMIT"
Mundius ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a fake story, dude.
Jaggle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:48:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He probably didn't even check the username. Amateur.
The_Price_Is_Right_B ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:17:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At least you have something in common now.
NoMoreFML ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:35:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That account looks like a lot of work.
Guckalienblue ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:15:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No fucking way lol
evanman69 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:37:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, at least he gave you something that you can remember him by.
Renegadeboy ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably along with a bunch of the other girls too. Oops.
OuttaSightVegemite ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:47:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Herpes, the gift that keeps on giving.
Sucks ass that that's all you got out of it.
justanotherepic ยท -10 points ยท Posted at 20:48:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair you hooked up with a guy on a dating show after the first date...
spacemanspiff30 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 20:52:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you sleep with him without a condom? Because of so, I have to say that that is one potential result of unsafe sex with a stranger.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:19:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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spacemanspiff30 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:44:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can. You can also prevent them with proper condom use depending. Hence the reason I asked if a condom was used or not.
Cookingachicken ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Condoms do not protect against herpes, if I'm not mistaken. Neither HPV.
Mondayslasagna ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:58:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Condoms can protect against the spread of herpes, though if the outbreak occurs outside of the area which a condom covers, it isn't much help. Also, most people with herpes exhibit no symptoms, and many do not know they have it. Always talk openly with a potential partner to decrease your chances even more!
Cookingachicken ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:29:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Yes, thank you. Well said! (If I'm not mistaken, which is possible, but I've studied this a lot,) It's very important not to assume one is safe either because of the using of a condom or not being able to see seeing an active lesion. This is because the virus sheds from one infected body to another via shedding or "falling off" skin cells. These are cells that come from around the entire area, not just on the Penis or in the vagina. It is in our skin cells and can be shedding and contagious before an active lesion ever appears. Some people never even break out, but still shed the virus!
So nothing can be trusted to be 100% protective. If you don't think this matters, ask yourself, "if I knew FOR SURE this person had an active herpes or HPV, or HIV virus, even if I can't SEE it, because it is shedding from their skin cells all around their groin, abdomen, and legs, would I still feel safe having sex because I put a condom on my penis (or he wore one having sex with you?). JUST a condom? If you knew for sure? That's your answer.
chickpea95 ยท 237 points ยท Posted at 17:59:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guess you can say... The cake is a lie
RobotSnake ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:30:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This was a triumph.
BaconLondoner ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:12:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm making a note here
slnz ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:15:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Huge C-C-COMBO BREAKER
RobotSnake ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:28:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
HUGE SUCCESS.
anowlcalledjosh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:47:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's hard to overstate my satisfaction.
BaconLondoner ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:41:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aperture Science
RobotSnake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:49:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aperture Science.
thispun ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:28:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Huge success!
kryptylomese ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:55:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But the potato is real!
whoreoleo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:29:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Us gamers, huh?
Vamking12 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:04:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No
cakesgood ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:16:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck off
henfrigate ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 05:18:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Woah, didn't expect all the comments! It was Ultimate Cake Off on TLC. I daresay Food Network shows are a tad more realistic. We didn't get the prize money but in the end it was almost better for our business because everyone who watched the show recognized we were robbed.
CJ_Jones ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:51:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank fuck for that, if it was Bake Off I'd have had to ban you from /r/BakeOff !
Fawful ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:41:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What show? I need to know.
gigabyte898 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Based on the comment about the clock I'm guessing Cake Wars
neugo ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 18:02:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On the finale of one of Gordon Ramsay's shows this year, the cute girl over-cooked her steak - and, instead of tearing a strip off of her, Ramsay said it was cooked perfectly, and the editor made sure that the audience never got a clear look at the (grey) center of the steak.
Gentlescholar_AMA ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:40:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do you know this? Which show? I almost never see attractive women in these cooking shows and usually you can tell feom their recipe ideas that they have talent.
BamesF ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:16:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd also like to know. Sounds like bullshit to me.
thunderclapMike ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The only show Ramsay would do that on would be Masterchef because those are amateur cooks. He never acts like that on Hells kitchen because those people will eventually work for him. And yes that is real because its an actual restuarant you can actually eat the food in. Just don't expect any when they are taped the first few episodes.
[deleted] ยท -16 points ยท Posted at 18:38:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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PBody97 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:07:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well the editor can decide what footage stays and what footage goes.
Scribeykins ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:54:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was probably referring to the television audience not a live audience.
WineAndSelfDestruct ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 17:35:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did cake competitions too, they rolled back our time as well and said, "we never do this..." but did it both times I was on.
thunnus ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 16:13:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Eyup. How does everyone not know this? This is why I hate reality television. It's all made up. If I'm going to spend time watching make-em-ups, I'm picking one with a much more interesting story than who baked the best fucking cake.
I am sorry you lost the fake cake-off, though. Bummer, man. That's...a bummer.
MonkPreston ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:57:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?
thunnus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:32:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know... sir.
DaTigerMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:14:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not all reality TV. There are real shows out there
[deleted] ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 17:40:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Why do you have to be a condescending prick? Let people enjoy what they want, it doesn't even affect you.
EDIT: I'm really tired of people who literally lack a 6th grade reading comprehension ability. "How does everyone not know this?" "Bummer, man. That's... a bummer." How are people unable to detect tone?
These-Days ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:00:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The comment was 100% about his own taste. You are the only condescending prick here.
LYossarian13 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:32:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dem reading comprehensions skills tho.
Truly a lost art.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 18:38:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, how are you guys still alive?
Baelorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Those are not opinions.
gray_rain ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:07:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you talking about shows like "cake wars" or "sweet genius" on food network?
inthepixelforest ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:19:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
cake wars?
strongcoffee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:04:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did they compensate you even though you didn't win?
CDfm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:17:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I want a slice .
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was a Food Network show wasn't it?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:31:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This makes me wonder if Gordon Ramsay's shows are also fake. I have watched nearly every Kitchen Nightmares shows and they look real enough but who knows.
stevean2 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Impratical Jokers isnt fake..
Ninjawizards ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which show?
fattypattyy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:10:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't be Cake Wars. That totally would fit that show, but Cake Wars and Cupcake Wars are my life.
asteroid_b_612 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:52:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always wondered how the bakers knew exactly what the "random subject" they were supposed to work on looked like from their heads and were able to make accurately scaled cakes w/o reference. Makes sense now.
booksandflowers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:00:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pleeassse you've got to give us a clue which show it was
tfresca ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:10:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you were on a US show we have rules for game shows.
its-ender ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I doubt you're being truthful otherwise you're just an idiot for not speaking up to media about losing.
Jubjub0527 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:47:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on it takes a thief, so I agree. Everything was faked. They were lovely people but it was faked.
nonhiphipster ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:14:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just say it. No one will ever be able to trace it back to you.
HippyDave ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:18:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm reminded of a story a friend told me when he watched the taping of one of the Ru Paul's drag race finales. They filmed every contestant winning and their/the audiences' reactions so they could edit in whatever result they wanted later.
kronos669 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:25:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm amazed more people don't realise this just from watching. Look at the coverage and camera angles, it's clear that multiple takes are being done for each thing
dj_soo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on an art competition show and while the reactions and interviews with the background actors, contestant introductions, winner reveals, and challenge reveals were all filmed with multiple takes, the actual competition parts and the voting was real so I think it depends on the show.
flatspotting ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:42:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Name the show!!!!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:30:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was it the food network cake show? I was on there as a judge and was told repeatedly what to say and do. And the shoot lasted 15 hours.
knitasheep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So what happened to the prize money?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If this is cake wars, I'm just annoyed. They have extra time and some of those cakes end up looking fucking horrendous. Months to plan and you somehow support a business with that pile of shit? Ugh.
rydan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:22:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Given that you won the judges vote now and are the top comment you are busted.
jonosvision ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:43:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was laughing at Master Chef US the other day, the competition had them making cupcakes I believe, and magically as soon as they came out of the oven they were able to be iced.
When in reality, they'd need to be cooled before the icing was applied to keep them from melting. No off-hand mention of a blast freezer or anything, just out of the oven and then the icing.
editordeb87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We also phrase find through your scripts to find different ways of you saying a word so that the sound mixer can make it flow more smoothly if you never said it. ;) reality tv magic.
keithwaits ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:02:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And they did not make you sign a contract promising not to tell?
stargate1995 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:42:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
While some parts of this is true, it isn't the case for all reality shows. Double takes do exist but they are not always for every statement made.
The clock rolling back does happen however it is not common and only done in circumstances where producers had underestimated how long something would take, in the case of a cake competition show sometimes contestants will be given a type of cake to make but an unrealistic time to create it in.
I can't speak for the show you were in but something like the producer deciding the winner against the judges decisions should not and has not in my experience happened. What can happen however is that much like the 2 takes of everything comment there are really two filmed endings. This is done so that the cast and crew do not know the winner until airing of the show.
SuperFreakonomics ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 14:50:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They should just clocks that run extra slow.
bcassalino ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:41:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn... that hurts.
Juanbond622 ยท 265 points ยท Posted at 18:24:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on restaurant impossible a couple years ago. They say they have a $10,000 budget for the renovation, definitely does not mean they use it. The host, Robert Irvine, was only there for like an hour a day, of the 3ish day venture, just to get in the way and whine about things for the camera. They made up this whole story about how my boss would lose everything and cause so much stress on his marriage and family if the restaurant failed. They had us "walk this direction with a sullen look" to show that we felt underappreciated as employees. We had four employees actually walk out because of some the comments Robert made. We also did not get paid any extra for any of this. But, while all of that was annoying, I will say this. The food network did pay almost $4k for a very local construction crew to come in, which is awesome for local business/support, the food was very awesome, and I got to learn some insane techniques from world class chef's, at the very start of my career (I am a chef myself now). It was very neat and exciting thing for a small town, and definitely brought our community together. And while the business did still end up failing a year and a half later, my boss was totally fine because he bought out another restaurant and is now very successful elsewhere.
Edit: minor grammatical errors
PostComa ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 00:24:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting. I was on Restaurant Impossible a few months ago. They filmed at a restaurant in my apartment building, so I was got to watch the entire production happen. I was filmed and interviewed several times too, and appeared in three segments on the episode. Robert was there the whole time. The celebrity carpenter guy was in our parking lot working until 2am, and back at 9am. They say they do the renovation in 24 hours, and they really did. After watching the episode, I really felt like everything they portrayed on TV was exactly how it went down in real life.
TheOven ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 02:57:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice fucking try Mr Irving
PostComa ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:16:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Busted, mate.
shinypretty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The grocery store with apartments above it?
PostComa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:15:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, it's an old factory that's been converted into apartments and this one restaurant.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 20:10:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to watch that show a lot and really thought that Irvine was there most of the time like Gordon Ramsay was in Kitchen Nightmares. Disappointed.
Praisethecornchips ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:01:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Relative was a producer on this show for 6 seasons. Can confirm. Also....I was on set one day when one of the "designers" screwed up big time. Instead of blaming it on them, they posed me as one of the volunteers and pinned it on me. Also... Robert Irvine is the worst person on the face of the planet. He verbally abuses the production staff and nobody (including Marc Summers) does anything about it.
tinyblondegirl ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 07:15:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Can confirm about Robert. Source: I work on a number of food network shows.
ultrab0ii ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:40:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn, Robert seems like a real douchebag. I mean, if it's just all for show, being an ass in front of the camera, fine whatever, but I guess he's an ass off camera too.
Praisethecornchips ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:12:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He is even worse off camera. He is verbally and mentally abusive to the production staff. Sometimes this extends to the restaurant staff. It is out of control. Marc Summers (executive producer) turns a blind eye to it. It is crazy scary to witness. This man does not deserve any accolades.
Don't even get me started on him being a "chef". On set, there is a real chef doing all the work with the restaurant staff and Robert just steps in for a scene or two. He is just a piece of shit figurehead.
Diarygirl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:14:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember a few years ago when they fired him because they said he lied about his background, and then they hired him back.
I liked when they had replaced him with Michael Symon.
TheOven ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:56:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Robert Irvine is a big phoney
BallShapedMan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:36:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A family friend was on that show with her place, she said pretty much the same thing you did. She added the Tom is really hot.
redlaserpanda ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:29:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A guy I know from high school works with Robert Irvine and is always posting pics with him and hanging out at parties and weddings with him. Guy is a total twat so I'm not surprised to hear Irvine doesn't do much.
AFlaccidNarwhal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:57:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was this in Ohio? Because if so, I know exactly where.
Juanbond622 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not Ohio. Unfortunate that this is common for the show then.
AFlaccidNarwhal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:45:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I guess so.
suzepie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, I'm actually surprised that they didn't at least pay you guys scale for filming every day. I always assumed that'd happen. Huh.
PM-ME-YOUR-STOMACH ยท 809 points ยท Posted at 15:49:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I saw another one of these threads and someone said that the show wipeout will only accept nuts jobs and "quirky" people. That's probably why you never see anyone who belongs on ANW on that show.
arden_alcott ยท 501 points ยท Posted at 17:26:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I knew a family man rancher whose one dream was to get on Wipeout. He has his whole schtick - "The Cowboy" - scripted and every season he would apply to be on. He thought it was a show where he could seem quirky but really be an amazing athlete and win. I don't think he ever got on, which is too bad because he was exactly the kind of person they're looking for: odd in an embarrassing way, not very athletic but thinks he is, and bonus! would have been a legitimate ass if he wiped out. YOU COULD HAVE HAD IT ALL, WIPEOUT!
rabidjellybean ยท 229 points ยท Posted at 17:36:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He got bumped so they could put another obese person through the first course.
Zaidswith ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 01:38:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hole in the Wall. They'd always send the tiniest hole for the fattest contestants. Great for a laugh.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:04:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You'd think a whale would do fairly well in the first course... Apparently not
vonlowe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:54:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
After the first few series...I only watched the first trial.
google_academic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well fat people trying to be athletic are funny.
Militant_Monk ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:09:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just askin' for a friend, but it was you wasn't it? :P
arden_alcott ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:44:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hahaha no. I'm neither a man or a rancher. But he did introduce me to the show.
YoungHeartsAmerica ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:40:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Unrelated but i once was house sitting and the only recorded show was wipe out... I watched that shit all day! It was amazing
DealerCamel ยท 422 points ยท Posted at 16:34:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, Wipeout + quirky people = hilarious time.
sbroll ยท 169 points ยท Posted at 20:46:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"I LICK RABBITS, WORK AT A BAIT SHOP AND HAVE 3 LEGS, WATCH ME HOP ON THESE HUGE ASS BALLS"
charlietango13 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:28:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL licking rabbits is considered "quirky." Whatever.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:19:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/nocontext
DH_heshie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:23:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Incoming /r/evenwithcontext
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:40:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)
Molesandwich ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:15:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Combined with the huge ass balls, I fear that third leg is not what you might think...
Charlie24601 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:02:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
MXC did it better.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:58:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right you are Ken!
Charlie24601 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:04:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whoa, Vic, did you see that? He teabagged him!
Right you are Ken! In belgium, a teabagging is a sign of respect!
moem0e ยท 170 points ยท Posted at 16:58:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I have a friend who won a season of Wipeout and said it was super fun. She is quirky and interesting, but not ridiculously so. Just a really fun girl.
NastyKnate ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:18:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i also have a friend who was on wipeout canada that fits that description
AngelicBastard ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 06:30:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Um...
JuicyJaylors ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:28:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just a heads up. I don't know if it was a typo or not, but ridiculous doesn't have an e in it. Not trying to be rude just trying to help you out. :)
moem0e ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:03:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hahahaha oh my gosh thank you. Idk how I did that.
JuicyJaylors ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:04:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No problem. Glad to help out!
Beanz122 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 19:24:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which is why MXC is far better. Clearly all those English speaking Asian ventriloquists are 100% real. Bless the Babaganoosh family for trying so hard to win every single episode.
JimJobJugger ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 16:17:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And where the quirky nut jobs from old ANW have gone
asuka_is_my_co-pilot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:42:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's anw ?
ImCelestial ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:52:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
American ninja warrior. From what I understand it's just wipeout for people who can actually do obstacle courses
fireboltfury ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:27:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And then there's the original ninja warrior, for people who can actually do difficult obstacle courses
mattycfp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And then there's just Warrior, for the Spartans.
bduddy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not like the Americans are bad at obstacle courses,
SPOILERS
...
...
...especially because one just got the furthest at original!Ninja Warrior aired yesterday.
IDidIt_Twice ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:06:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Since it's the only show that allows overweight women on it.. I applied. No call back. Guess I'm not fluffy enough.
Bawbag3000 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:10:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Friend of a friend auditioned for this. Actually completed the course fairly quickly but wasn't wacky enough for tv.
Justausername1234 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:17:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If they aren't shown on TV, do they still move on?
Bawbag3000 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:02:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Think he said they film a few people doing the first run, then decide who's better for TV to move on. Must start with lots more people than they need.
Ennion ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:18:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same thing goes for Masterchef. They don't give a shit if you can cook, the just want tension, quirk and marketability.
apeiron12 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:16:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on Wipeout! I auditioned with a lightningbolt drawn on my forehead and a magic staff and called myself "non-copyright infringing boy wizard Parry Hotter." When I showed up for filming, I dropped the act and they were clearly really annoyed. In my "interviews" with the hostess, they asked me like 3 harry potter questions and a Star Wars Question. I answered them all right but realized after the fact they wanted me to get the real easy Star Wars question wrong. I got like zero screen time, but I only made it to round two, so they didn't need to show me at all anyway. The competitive aspect of the show is very real, but filmed over 3 days instead of one.
nyancat23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
What episode were you in? Because obviously you still get shown in Round 2 but not really mentioned. That sucks :(. But its what happens when theres limited air time.
apeiron12 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:22:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Spring Episode 4: The Wizard of Owws. I pushed myself so hard on round 1 (we were told we would do round two later that week) that I was having like medical issues. I was the fastest male on round 1. Almost went to the hospital. Lucky for me we had time to do round two that day. My arms failed when I had to climb a ladder.
nyancat23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:36:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Well that sucks for the 3 of you guys including you who werent shown that episode that got to R2 :(. Really feel bad for those people who might work harder then some of the others early on but then get out in R2 and then get cut or just montage due to a limited broadcast of an hour with commercials where not everyone can be fully mentioned and they need to show the ones who got far and then the some of other ones who failed.
TheSonder ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:03:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That could have been me. I had a friend on it and this guy is a dry and very monotone guy. Yet on the show, he was the most intense and over the top guy ever. It was really sickening to watch and was so glad when he got eliminated so I could stop watching
nyancat23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who was he? Did he get to Round 2-4?
Bluntteh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:55:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's strange, because I remember my middle school art teacher being a normal dude and he appeared on the show. To be fair, even though he made it to the final course or whatever, they didn't spend much time focusing on him. He broke a rib.
BaconZombie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:47:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They all get accept to "talent" shows.
KnightofGarm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:23:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a college friend who was really energetic and outspoken in class be on that show, and he got second place. Even though he was yelling in excitement a lot on the show (seemingly almost to an exaggerated extent), he is the kind of guy who'd actually do that naturally too.
Zanki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:58:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. A friend of mine walked out on the auditions because they wanted him to act like a fool.
anddrewg2007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A buddy of mine actually designed and built those sets. He still has the notebooks of plans he used to design them.
Ollivander451 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There was a guy who worked for ANW that did an AMA. He was asked why they show backstories and spend like 10 minutes talking about people in ridiculous costumes that ultimately just fall on the first obstacle. His response was basically "that makes the show more interesting" and there was a long chain of responses after that which said "Um, I watch to see the people run the course" or "OMG I HATE THE BACKSTORY STUFF".
Unsurprisingly he did not respond to those comments, but I think its pretty representative of the entertainment industry as a whole where they produce what they think you want, rather than what you say you want.
npcknapsack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of my coworkers was on there. He's a totally normal guy IRL. I think he actually went to the audition with another coworker who was dressed up, but he came up with the funnier reason to be there.
nyancat23 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:18:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jessie Graff who is known as one of the strong female competitors on ANW was originally in a episode of season 1 of Wipeout. She made it decently far but didnt win I think. Pretty sure it was Season 1 Episode 10.
brawdogger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of my current teachers was on wipeout (the Australia version). Because he had red hair as well as being left handed, they forced him to be called "rare breed". Although running the actual course was completely real, the interviews, the banter whilst on the sweeper and their celebrations were fake. They even made him dance multiple times before running the first course.
If anyone's interested, here's one of the clips https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ3YWCzSv9I
I'll try to find the complete episode once I get home
lostmonkey70 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:30:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, Wipeout is about failure and entertainment, not achievement. It's why I love it.
vogonicpoet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every time I hear about Wipeout, I just think of MXC and how much better it was.
PeterQuincyTaggart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, if you watch a single episode of the show that's completely obvious anyway.
hewhoreddits6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:28:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That show is still very very real though, I met someone once who was on it (I verified it later and watched her episode), and she talked about how painful it actually is. She joked that it should be illegal the stuff they put you through.
Kanotari ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know someone who's done medical work on the contestants. When you see some of those wipeouts and go, "Holy crap that looks like it hurt," chances are good that it did.
G8kpr ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:09:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I tried out for Wipeout, and I think that's probably true.. When i got to the "auditions", I knew I was dead. People were dressed up in weird costumes, doing stupid things, everyone had "an angle" and I had none. I totally bombed the interview process, and that was that...
Frankfusion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:48:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm, my friend was on it. I missed the episode, but he's a musical theater director, very flamboyant, and very straight.
shamelessnameless ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:28:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ANW?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:26:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
UK wipeout, season one episode 6. Go to 7.40.
Very good friend of mine from uni, Kunaal. Despite his failure on the show, a talented martial artist. Insists it was real and he really was that bad at it. We were quite cruel to him at University as he's a semi-practicing Sikh like his parents, we'd take him to Burger King and eat quarter pounders in front of him and discuss how good they were.
Yay for religious intolerance...
Edit: Let me point out that despite all the comments in the video about martial arts and the yelling, he's about as aggressive as a kitten. Apart from that one time 2 smicks let off fireworks as us and started shouting "Paki bastards" at us. Even though I'm glow in the dark white. He put one on the ground, grabbed the other, pulled out a lighter and lit it while looking the guy in the eye and said "DO YOU WANT TO PLAY WITH FIRE?". Fucking brilliant, that.
Northern Ireland is great!
56Subject ยท 90 points ยท Posted at 18:53:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
First 48: (The one that follows homicide detectives)
Very accurate. 95% of the episode is portrayed as it happened.
They make a few edits to make the story "flow" a little better. They'll also do reshoots for things like phone calls or reactions.
missartteacher ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:19:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can understand some of the edits. I would hate to think a show about solving murders is scripted, unless it's a retelling of the story. First 48 is a great show, too.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:02:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Glad to hear this, it's one of my very favorite shows!
underwatersmoking ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:32:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for sharing! Knowing this makes me want to watch the show more.
Ruinga ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My aunt and mom know a guy that was one of the 'focus officers' for the episode, it pretty much was just him doing his job.
Pmcandew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of the first episodes aired was about the murder of a kid I went to high school with. Very sad but very real.
DumDum-Bubblegum ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 05:07:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Knew some one who's brother was in the car of a murder and was in possession of a firearm and served 5 years in a prison, the person and his/her family were pretty much ruined as he was made to be some sort of murderous monster , complete with his mugshot and all to be viewed on TV , they don't ask for permission or think of the reprecussions of there actions towards those affiliated in a murder , even if said person was not directly involved or willingly participated or even knew that said murder was going to happen. Tldr everyone except the detectives are "bad guys"
56Subject ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 07:22:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So you're upset that a guy who was an accessory to murder was treated like he was an accessory to murder?
[deleted] ยท 311 points ยท Posted at 19:08:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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snarkyshan ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 19:58:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This eats away at everything I love and hold dear - DAMMIT!
Ciscokid60 ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:43:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That sucks. I really like that show.
darkelvis ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 03:34:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Jonathan is a giant douchebag. He was recently at a bar that I frequent and at closing time he tried to pull this "fuck you, I'm not done, do you know who I am" bullshit and was promptly escorted out in a choke hold by one of the bouncers (a friend of mine actually). Once outside he immediately called 911 and wanted to file assault charges. After getting witness statements and reviewing the security footage the prosecutor refused to file the charges. The security footage has since been put on the Internet and it's pretty funny watching him get his ass dragged out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhbHz8aullQ
Edit. Thanks /u/ceebee6 for the link!
ceebee6 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 08:28:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhbHz8aullQ
majorfoodie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:02:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That didn't seem too bad.
errgreen ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:51:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like the bouncers did more shoving than anyone.
scnative843 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea, I've done some bouncing before and that was as mild as it gets. Calling that a "bar fight" is a joke.
IslamicCaterpillar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:23:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Links please!
ceebee6 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:00:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're very welcome!
Slime8765 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:15:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Link?
Oxideist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:42:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Please OP, deliver on the link.
wmstewart66 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:17 on July 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lol those youtube comments, though.
jillyszabo ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 23:42:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I knew Jonathan didn't really do contracting work. He makes it look like he does a ton of manual labor yet he has no muscles. After doing that for awhile he'd at least look a little muscular.
Trust_Me_Im_Right ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:08:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're telling me they haven't been working for hours when the camera pans to them in their brand new timberlands with 0 scuffs and clean jeans? Not to mention their hair is still done and they aren't sweating a single drop
chadtill ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:21:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why would you want to be on the show?
lostmonkey70 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:02:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
IIRC they get like $20,000 in furnishing from HGTV
BallShapedMan ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:44:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You hurt me real bad...
lostmonkey70 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:02:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well now I'm sad. I love that show. Although I always did question what purpose Drew served. And it's weird you say Jonathan had nothing to do with the design, because the houses that end up on TV all have a very similar style.
Cparil17 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:23:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm surprisingly saddened by this. I liked (key word "liked" that show)...
houseofleopold ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:16:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
everything I've ever known is a lie.
mamameaghan ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:19:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My heart! No!
VROF ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:48:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What is the point of the show if they don't pay for the work and you already own the house?
T_Right ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:42:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait really? I get that they were all about making themselves look good with their hair and all, but did they say/do anything else that came off as douchebag-esque?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:05:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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T_Right ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:37:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can't ever look at him the same now.
zoidberg005 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:23:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heard the Jonathan is actually a magician in Las Vegas... I could be wrong, but this is what I heard.
EmilioMolesteves ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 03:00:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But they probably took some time out to double team your wife, right?
majorthrownaway ยท 83 points ยท Posted at 00:15:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In about 2005 NBC had to abandon its policy of requiring clean STD tests for bachelor-type hookup show contestants because everybody who auditioned was infected with something.
Source: I've won an Emmy producing reality TV and my ex wife was in BA at NBC at that time.
Chocolatefix ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:24:41 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's disgusting but I'm not really surprised that the douchey guys that sign up to be contestants on these shows would be packing "gifts" that keep on giving.
tobiasfunke51 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:29:01 on July 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rachel Goldberg?
WednesdayBordem ยท 1196 points ยท Posted at 15:56:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I was on an episode of "extreme guide to parenting". My mom is a hypnotherapist for a living and so they "interviewed" my brothers and me about getting "hypnotized" to do chores and get good grades. They had us say thing like "my mom using nuro linguistic programming to make us do things" and that she hypnotizes us on a daily basis. I was 14 and I had to pretend that I had a crush on this boy and my mom taught me how to "hypnotize him to like me". All the parts with me in it were cut out, thank god, but my twin brothers got a decent amount of airtime. All of it was scripted. It was basically a publicity stunt on my moms part to get more business. I don't blame her, it worked pretty effectively and we got a 5,000 dollar check for letting them use our house to film.
to clarify, everything my mom said was true to a degree, and she has hypnotized me in the past, but hypnotherapy is not what everyone thinks it is. It is a way of gaining more self control, not less, and in no way is it someone controlling your mind. There are subtle cues you can give people to get them to agree with you, such as nodding your head when you ask for something (and touching their shoulder) but other than that it is mostly used to help people stop smoking or biting their nails and even improving concentration and avoiding panic attacks. Just like anyother therapist might help you, my mom does it with hypnosis. As for exploiting my brothers and me, it was really fun and I laughed a lot when I saw the final cut. I thought my family didn't seem so bad when compared to others that I saw in the same episode, but I can't judge. Either way, the whole plot was made up but it is true that my mom taught us how to exit something called flight or fight mode when in non-life threatening situations, like when you panic, she taught us to think clearly. Nothing as extreme as how they portrayed us in the show. Honestly, it's counter intuitive to make a show that puts my mom in bad light for business reasons and so while everything was scripted, she did maintain her usual air of professionalism, the directors just took all the parts that made her look as bad as possible.
Pagedpuddle65 ยท 912 points ยท Posted at 16:49:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The irony is that she hypnotized you to say those things.
lurked ยท 318 points ยท Posted at 17:53:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She hypnotized the producers to do the show.
NotTheRightAnswer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:34:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's hypnotizing all the way down.
_reeses_feces ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:19:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No one is safe!
Lyress ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:49:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Couldn't she have just hypnotized people to hire her and circumvent all this hassle?
lurked ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:53:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh that's it! Now you're asking to be hypnotized!
bloodygripen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:05:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Too late... @.@
shamelessnameless ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:28:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hypnomom is hypnotoad
g18suppressed ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:20:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
With her tits
Xendrus ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:08:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you think she would like, hypnotize me a bologna sandwich?
JammerAma80 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 03:23:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She hypnotized me to put my entire ass in your mouth.
patrickweber ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:59:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
THIS IS NOT A FORM OF BRAINWASHING
roadkilled_skunk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:57:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
With money
Joetato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:25:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy crap, she's a super villain!
Just_For_Da_Lulz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:27:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or did she?
xfilestheme.mp3
sirkiwithefirst ยท 165 points ยท Posted at 17:09:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your mother hypnotized you to think that it was scripted.
NeoShweaty ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:24:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The entire experience was hypnosis. They were never on any show at all!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:49:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
shes caught so deep in the mindtrap she thinks she's free
rTeOdMdMiYt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:51:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And that there's a twin brother
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:19:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm confused
flamingeyebrows ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:48:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because you were hypnotised.
toritor90 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:46:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I watched that!! It's nice to know your mom doesn't actually hypnotize her kids. It came off as creepy.
peanutbutterjams ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:22:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She had her kids lie and possibly humiliate themselves on national TV. What's not to blame? Because money?
todlee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:38:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Omg, I saw that episode. I loved it. It was much better than "Cats." I'm going to see it again and again.
akesh45 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:56:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Strong code of ethics in hypnotherapy?
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 22:05:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same as the psychic community.
PIroDoughnut ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:16:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So, no?
justbaloney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:27:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I watched that episode! Glad to hear that it was fake and you didn't have an extremely awkward childhood.
Assmunch131 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I saw this episode re-run on Swedish television! Great episode. I'm glad to hear it was scripted though.
dug99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:15:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look into my eyes, look into my eyes, the eyes, the eyes, not around the eyes, don't look around my eyes, look into my eyes, you're under. I have not been taking your underwear home, putting it on in my bedroom and then parading up and down in front of the mirror going 'Oh, oh, oh, oh'. Three, two, one... You're back in the room.
spiral6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
snap woohoo
TheCaliKid89 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cool insight. I was wondering if you might be able to help me with something. I have a little experience with therapy administered by a proficient friend of mine, but now that we don't live near each other it's no longer an option. I am completely unsure how to go about finding a reputable hypnotherapist, And I was wondering if you had any insight into how to do that? it doesn't sound like you went into your mothers business, but you sounded really educated on the matter so I thought I'd ask.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So did you ever hypnotize that boy you liked ( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:03:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think I actually remember that, was there a part where the boys said they didn't want to be hypnotized anymore and then the mom literally right after tries to hypnotize one into doing well on the SAT's?
TheBlueBrothers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:10:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You could be the next Molly Moon!
HotelIndiaFoxtrot ยท 162 points ยท Posted at 22:11:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Diners, Drive-Ins, and Dives. Kinda real, maybe 50/50.
Friend owns a butcher shop and happens to be the supplier of meats to this restaurant where an episode of DDD was going to be filmed, and asked me to come along with him. We were a part of the "crowd scene" where Guy comes around as ask people things like "so how's the burger?" etc. Thing is, not one of the people in the restaurant during that scene was a random restaurant customer; everyone was an special invited guest of the restaurant owners. Once we arrived, the producer dude placed us in seats, and they made a few people move tables/booths (for a better overall crowd look, I presume). They gave us some preliminary instructions (make sure phones are off, don't ask for Guy's autographs at all, don't pay attention to camera, etc). And then we waited. And waited, and waited. After maybe 45 mins or so, the wait staff just started bringing out food and placing it on tables. No one had ordered anything, but the staff just started bringing stuff out. Once a decent Number of people had dishes at their table, The servers would continue bringing food outโฆ But this time with camera peeps behind them filming them as they took plates to tables. They did some interview shots with people eating, and when I watched the episode it was edited to look as if they were responding to something the Guy had sais to them, even though he wasn't around at all at this point. Shortly after that, Guy Fieri comes in, and everyone applauds, and he just sort of waves his hand at everyone quicklyโฆ Never smiles, and goes back to typing on his phone. I had always thought GF looks kinda douchey but was prolly nice in person..nope..absolute total diva/douchebag the entire time. Never acknowledged the crowd, barely acknowledged the production crew, just kinda seemed like a dick. Literally was standing right beside a booth where someone was sitting, and rhe lady sitting there said something to him like "hey we love your show"...GF just kinda does this half smirk/smile thing and never acknowledges the lady or anyone at her booth. Only, and I mean, ONLY when the video guy would say "action" would he turn on the switch and actually try to talk to crowd peeps, get excited and talk about the food and stuff. Later, after he filmed the restaurant scenes, they backed his Camaro out of a trailer and filmed all of then scenes where he's driving around. The crowd scenes were done at this point, my buddy and I were just hanging out, and chatting with the owner and one of his managers. The restaurant kitchen scenes where they were going to film Guy and the chef prepping and making the food were filmed the day before, and the owner said it was the exact same thing; zero interaction with GF until the cameras were rolling. They even filmed some "outtakes" which were somewhat pre planned and setup in advance. Once the car scenes were all done, GF heads back into the RV and we didn't see him again. The crew came around and did some other shots and interviewed some of the staff and such. Interesting day, for sure.
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 04:43:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God, I want to see him have a cook-off with Gordan Ramsey.
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 08:01:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you watch the shows, most of the people seem a little uncomfortable with him, especially in kitchen scenes. Your description sheds some light on that.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:18:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Came here to say this.
MrAngryTrousers ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 14:19:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can corroborate your assessment of Guy Fieri. I'm good friends with an owner of one of the places he highlighted. I asked him what Fieri was like in person because he comes off as a douche on tv. The owner said something along the lines, "That guy made me so much money I won't say anything but nice things about him." And one of the owners employees was right there and just said, "Total dick."
I think it's also worth mentioning that the owner did refuse to allow a signed and framed poster to be put in his Restaurant.
HotelIndiaFoxtrot ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 15:37:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. Restaurant owner said one of the producers of the show said that their business would quadruple once the episode started airing and they had the math and research to back that claim up... And it absolutely turned out to be true. So his douchery is probably tolerated by the businesses based off of the money they know they will eventually begin to make. I do, however, think it's a great show and from the presentation standpoint it has introduced myself and zillions of other people to some incredible places that we would have otherwise never found.
MrJigglyBrown ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 04:08:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Might as well rename the show to Guyners, Guyve-ins and Guyves
Gemsofwisdom ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 04:58:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My ex worked with guy fieti making a sign for one of his restaurants after it was finished he said he didn't like it. He then kept the sign, but never paid him or his co-workers. I used to love DDD until I knew Guy was a shitbag.
Mksiege ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:24:25 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's why you don't deliver the product without pay.
Gemsofwisdom ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:07:07 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also a good example of why you shouldn't work under the table.
DerpSherpa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:26:36 on July 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lawsuit?
jefferson497 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 23:01:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Great insight, and very disappointing. GF seems like a dickbag
Missymay2002 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:50:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard he's kind of a douchebag. It's kind of sad because he seems like a pretty genuine dude on TV. Like it seems forced a little bit but I wouldn't expect him to go from cold fish to, well. Guy Fierri only for the cameras.
ultrab0ii ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:13:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heard that he and Rachael Ray are both asses irl :(
algonquinroundtable ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:06:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Any sauces?
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 14:36:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just EVOO
unimpressedbunny ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:27:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've met her before. She was really nice but totally lit haha so I'm not sure if she's a dick when she's sober
ultrab0ii ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:26:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, just something my aunt's friend said a few years ago since she saw them Irl before
algonquinroundtable ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:03:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, I see. I love RR because she has my birthday.
peachlady22 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 08:01:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I took a buzzfeed quiz called "Who is your mortal enemy?" and I got Guy Fieri. I know it's true.
DerpSherpa ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:30:21 on July 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just got Taylor Swift.
Nyctom7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:05:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's a method actor.
EmilioMolesteves ยท -15 points ยท Posted at 03:03:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Too long to read.
Guy Fieri though
/r/punchablefaces
BNFforlife ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:34:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
you must have crippling ADD if that was "too long to read"
confirmd_am_engineer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:59:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, that checks out.
[deleted] ยท 221 points ยท Posted at 15:32:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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d0mr448 ยท 96 points ยท Posted at 17:13:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everyone knew it was fake. The shocking part was the complete lack of responsibility, as seen in the interview: "Do you drink alcohol every day?" - "Eight beers." - "Okay, let's tick no in these legal documents for our insurance."
Those fuckers.
AgeOfWomen ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:49:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This one also shows just how fake DSDS is, also in German.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxW0gZy_S_I&spfreload=10
Some years back, I remembered seeing a clip on how fake Supernanny is. They basically encouraged the kids to fight and hit each other and it was implied (I wasn't there and can't qualify it) that the editors killed a dog to get a reaction out of one of the kids who seemed to have a special bond with the dog.
Saint_Schlonginus ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:14:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's just crazy how they get away with stuff like that. Aren't there enough victims to sue the fuck out of RTL?
I've seen some contracts from their shows on the internet and even without beeing a lawyer I see, that it is all but legal what they do. Also they are pressuring the people who have signed the contracts.
AgeOfWomen ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:48:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really wish I could find the clip from Supernanny where the mother said she heard the editors saying that it would be interesting if the dog were to die, and a couple of days later, the dog supposedly ate something poisonous and died. That really pissed me off!
You can see from this Frauentausch clip that the candidates who come out of these episodes are under so much stress, that I think in the end most of them want to put the incident behind them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gPnvU4IwTo
I also heard one of the participants say that they sign contracts where they would be sued for thousands of euros if they did not comply. Maybe many of them do not have the resources to go after RTL
angryfluttershy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:36:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you mean this one? - http://fernsehkritik.tv/folge-77/play/#46-Ich-bin-ein-Opfer-der-Super-Nanny
Personally, I'm not a fan of "Fernsehkritik". I watched a few episodes, but, frankly, much of his reedy "critique" appears to me like a false pretense to show as many shitty sex scenes as possible. That being said: If that team really killed the pup, this is, of course, more than despicable.
But let's talk about Frauentausch: My cat sitter had worked as an intern for them. She was a runner in the episode with Jasmin Berlin. She stayed with Jasmin's mother and the other woman, Uschi, whom she claimed was really nice, while Jasmin and her mom were just as disgusting as shown on TV. So there's at least some truth...?
But it's pretty obvious that much of the dialogue is staged. It's just like #veragate: The producers of such shows dig up the weirdest people they can think of, oftentimes people who are naive, uneducated or mentally ill, and who might rather need professional help. Some of these people have become 'professional' trash TV characters. Said Jasmin, for example. And somehow, they still manage to make an even bigger fool of these people. They'll create caricatures, exaggerating all the negative and freakish aspects: If they see limescale on the washing basin, they'll probably add some toothpaste smears for 'perfection'. If they see a full garbage bin, they'll add some nice and ripe banana peels, too... then some editing, and you're done.
Saint_Schlonginus ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:02:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's true that many of the candidates of those shows are uneducated or really as seen on tv. But I think a lot of them are just unaware. Like the ones of 'Frauentausch' they just think, that they are different from those Freaks on tv and then it is too late.
I think what Bรถhmermann did with 'Schwiegertochter gesucht' was awesome. It shows what the producers are willing to do to get their perfect freakshow.
After reading this thread I watched some documentarys and there was a women who scouts crowded places in big cities to find the most sterotypical people.
angryfluttershy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:35:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wholeheartedly agree with you. The "I'm different from those other freaks" is what I meant with being naive. They really seem to think that way.
Verafake was awesome! I don't like every Bรถhmermann coup, but that one was absolutely brilliant. I wish he'd repeat that with other "reality" shows, as well, from "Bauer sucht Frau" to "Voice of Germany" and "Germany's next Topfmodel". (Not gonna happen, of course.)
That being said, I'm not too sure whether the "รถffentlich-rechtlichen Anstalten" are much better than the stereotypical trash stations. Last year I took part in a tiny documentary for the ZDF, together with my best friend who lives a rather interesting lifestyle. (He's, well, very much into living a 19th century lifeโฆ) Even this tiny 5 minute intermezzo for a "quality" TV station took the whole day to record, with repetitions over and over again. Everything we did, except for my friend's home, was organized and staged by the producer. And the final result made us look like lovers, not just good friends, much to the dismay of my husbandโฆ
AgeOfWomen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:56:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is the one. It appears as if they were sued and were not allowed to show the parts that could incriminate RTL. I don't know much about Fernsehkritik. I only came across the clip on youtube some years back.
angryfluttershy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd love to see one of those contracts. Would you mind PMing me a link? Please?
FM-96 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:06:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh this was amazing to watch!
bosedo ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:18:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seine Videos sollten mit englischen Untertiteln sein. Zu geil...
StabbyPants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:35:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pfft, Es gibt deutsche tv
StillwaterBlue ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:54:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't this similar to Celebrity Big Brother in the UK a few years ago when they put a fake celeb in the house and she actually won? The viewers were in on it but the celeb housemates were only slightly suspicious. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chantelle_Houghton
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:18:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not optional.
Qwqqwqq ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:11:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
RemindMe! 6 months "Did you learn German yet?"
TulipSamurai ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:00:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
"Wenn" translates to "if" in English. ๐ Wann is when.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you mean interviewed, or did they somehow sneak inside this man to discover his secrets?
Nanotoxic_al ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:50:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They sneaked him in, he and his "father" are actors and their personas and backgrounds are completely made up.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:55:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OOOooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I get it.
DrHuffbadger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So this is what German talk show looks like. Toll
Banana57113 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of this - "Weird Al" Yankovic - The Avril Lavigne Interview
shamelessnameless ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:31:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wish it had subtitles
[deleted] ยท 160 points ยท Posted at 22:36:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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katiedid05 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:53:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's a really insidious disease
T_Right ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:36:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Where did the lady end up living if they tore it down??
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 12:48:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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T_Right ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:35:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn...that sounds like a harsh lifestyle for all of them.
polarberri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:17:54 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What do you mean by sold??
Chaimakesmepoop ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:52:36 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Prostitute, probably?
polarberri ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:11:26 on July 25, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh that should have been obvious. Thank you! That is so terrible... some people aren't fit to be parents.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:20:25 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i'm wondering when some tv producer or film maker is going to cash in on "the real lives of making reality tv" and it just be filled with stories like this from people with re-enactments like holy shit you can't make up these stories ( i mean you can but still some of the realities are amazing)
emerald447 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:02:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's amazing.
FoximusMaximus ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 06:30:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Flyingtypewriter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:34:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No kidding huh? Hoarders try to have happy endings
fishybell ยท -7 points ยท Posted at 07:17:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mental illness != redneck piece of trash. I have to doubt your Dr. credentials.
KnotNotNaught ยท 953 points ยท Posted at 16:13:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Not surprising, Ghost hunting shows are fake...
What is surprising is how they do it: see those fancy instruments they carry that no one has ever heard of? They're actually remotes, TO EACH OTHER!
All you gotta do is split into 2 groups and when one team is "adjusting their settings" the other team is "detecting ghosts." So simple and you get twice the footage.
Edit: Also, one time in a screening when the hunters were reviewing evidence, a producer whispered to me "see that Ghost shape behind the door? Ya, that's the sound guy."
Beta_Ray_Bill ยท 485 points ยท Posted at 16:57:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You'd kind of have to figure at some point nothing real was going on...
If there was a show called "Moose hunters" and you didn't see a moose ever that show would have been cancelled super quick.
They're just pandering to the audience, and it works.
friday6700 ยท 693 points ยท Posted at 18:28:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would watch that show. A small group of three people who know absolutely fuck all about anything moose related are taken from their quiet suburban homes, stripped of all modern tech, given some camping supplies and tasked with one simple goal: Find a moose.
QuintonFlynn ยท 271 points ยท Posted at 18:57:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ends up being a Walking Dead-style series spanning several seasons with groups and dangers around every corner. Never actually see a moose.
friday6700 ยท 204 points ยท Posted at 20:06:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
"After six long months... several major and minor injuries... That period of food poisoning from that diner in Maine, and that time we almost lost Jerry to a bear, we are proud to finally present you with... a moose!"
Off screen voice - "Guys, that's actually an elk."
-dramatic music- "NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"
EDIT: Eventually one of the people goes crazy and becomes convinced there's no such thing as a moose. Even if they find tracks or scat, he's still convinced it's a hoax.
101gamer101 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:50:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone get A&E on the phone real quick!
Keysar_Soze ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:04:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh hell yeah. Snipe Hunters on TLC.
HoverButt ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:30:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would watch the absolute hell out of this show. +50 points if there were regular shots of moose walking past the camp at night. Or near it
Nambot ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:16:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That honestly sounds like a failed Top Gear challenge.
Gonzobot ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:12:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I'd watch the shit out of this
zzyzx00 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:19:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*slap bass*
Sauropodlet75 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:28:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Quick, pitch this! I wanna see it!
grc207 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:03:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well you can't film of in Maine. There are too many. It would be like ghost hunters accidentally catching a ghost video in their car on the way to the hunt.
Nixnilnihil ยท 44 points ยท Posted at 19:19:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I, too, would watch a show where random idiots find and are killed by a moose.
Orcwin ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:11:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And in the final episode, we find out they were actually camping in New Zealand?
dolphin_cave_rape ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:03:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I want to believe!
Orcwin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:05:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Huh. Guess that might actually have worked then.
Belgand ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:38:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It fundamentally reminds me of this old, Soviet-era joke.
It really depends on who you send out into the woods.
I_munch_butts_AMA ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:26:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you put them in a moose populated area that would last like one episode. They would be walking around and then be like "oh hey look a moose" and the show would be over.
The3rdWorld ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 20:46:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would enjoy that, all these big West Wing type things are too much for me and just the thought of watching another program about someone doing really significant things is enough to tire me out, i'd enjoy a nice two hour documentary of some people having a nice summer camping trip, taking a walk around Canada and towards easily completing their not too taxing task of spotting a moose.
I think it'd be nice if it had Jason Statham and some of those other action chaps in it, give them a break from all that drama and shouting they normally have to do. I think it'd be nice for them because they could sit down with their kids and watch it together and all be happy and joyous when they finally see the moose.
It could have a fun twist at the end like when they finally do see a moose it just happens to be an old friend of Jason's from before he went into acting and they both talk about life and how things have worked out and even though Jason is an big actor now and really cool parties and things his friend has had a cool life with as a moose, really enjoys working outside and is working on a book in which the main character is dealing with the complex issues of loss which he really thinks will maybe help people so like there's no weirdness or animosity or anything, they're just old buddies catching up on the world, maybe Jason says 'hey you should come to the premier' and the moose is like 'hey yeah i'd love to...' which kinda leave the opening for a squeal in which the moose is coming to Hollywood to track down a Jason Statham.
MarzipanMarzipan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:37:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would go see this movie.
shinypretty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You have no faith in creative editing.
hopefulpenguin ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:03:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Moose my Ride" I'd watch that
annoyinglazygamer ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:10:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reddit should have a tv production company based off of this post
No actually wait a sec that wouldnt go well
AT ALL
AFlawAmended ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:20:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Season 3: "I'm no moose expert, but I'm pretty sure they don't live in the desert."
shinypretty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:36:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"I don't think Bermuda has moose, but hey, free vacation."
Froggy_hop ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:27:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
EXTREME Moose Hunting: Same concept, but with more swearing.
night time, handheld night-vision camera, pointed directly at face "Okay, we're out here tonight because we heard that Moose were nocturnal. We're just setting up all of our equipment now, it's hard to do in the dark. Brayden was just saying that-- HOLY SHIT WHAT WAS THAT? Was that a moose? Holy shit was that a moose?"camera jiggles around frantically
Female voice #1- "I saw it! I saw a moose! It was for sure a moose this time, get the camera!"
camera jiggles around frantically
Male voice #2- FUCK!
Female voice #1 (talking head, after the fact)- I can't believe we didn't get that on camera. I'm like 75% sure that was a moose.
NEXT WEEK on EXTREME Moose Hunters:
Unidentified female crying
Male voice- Shit, this is bad.
EXTREME MOOSE HUNTERS! Outro: AC/DC: Back in Black
Beta_Ray_Bill ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:03:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Compass, a hatchet/knife, a paper map and a sleeping bag. See yas in two weeks!
You may be on to something there!
BrentTH ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:40:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What happens when you drop three average Joes on a remote island populated with 1000 mooses?
Get ready to kill or get moosed!
Jinjinbug ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:45:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Back in early 2000s we had a show like that in korea where a guy camped out with camping gear for weeks trying to catch a racoon (first season) and a deer (second season) in the CITY, both of which were rare back then because there were no efforts to preserve wild animals back then. I never watched the racoon one, but I did see the deer one, where he would camp out alone, sometimes with guests and experts to catch a glimpse of the deer, and one day, he finally saw the deer, and eventually they were able to lure and catch it (alive) and that show raised lots of awareness of rare wild animals that are endangered in korea. Iirc they did more animals, but i only watched the deer one.
Flowseidon9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:48:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd watch it. Moose can be some mean motherfuckers
almostrambo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:05:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shhh. Producers may be listening and said producers may be out of ideas.
Malawi_no ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Find a moose or you loose!
tifftafflarry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If it does well, they can do a spin-off: Moosehunters New Orleans.
wolfman1911 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:35:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That would be so badass! Especially if they were to completely replicate the style and formula that those 'finding bigfoot' shows do, where you can hear a moose call, and they get freaked out. Or they happen upon tracks and start speculating about whether it's just a deer or something else. That would be cool as hell.
shinypretty ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:35:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So all we gotta do is find it? I can find a moose.
I'm not trapping that shit or nothing, but I can find one.
jans_candles ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:09:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like I've heard this exact comment before.
tuwangclan ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:00:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
You have, at least 9 times before. It's posted in every thread that mentions anything about 'ghost hunting'. Earliest one I could find is an AskReddit post title from 2012. The poster in this thread seems to have managed to farm the most comment karma from it.
May 2012, Oct 2012
Mar 2013, Apr 2013, Oct 2013, Nov 2013
Feb 2014, Mar 2014, Dec 2014
jans_candles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:46:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
See, that pisses me off. Granted this is a new account, but I've been on reddit a long damn time and comment karma thieves are the lowest.
Maldetete ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:29:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's why they should never have used Texas as a base for the Moose Hunters tv show.
shinypretty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. At least Houston and surrounding are completely moose-free.
Source: have been here 47 years and never seen one damn moose ever.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:27:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
10/10 would watch a show about hunting for rare animals just to film them
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:43:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That reminds me of something I saw somewhere. " how long would you watch a show called Deer Hunters if they never actually found any deer?"
salmonmoose ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would totally watch that show.
Slowdayattheoffice ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then how come Hunting Bigfoot has been on for ages?
Susim-the-Housecat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:45:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would watch the fuck out of a TV show about crew making a ghost hunt reality show.
Every episode:
* they go to peoples houses, who say they have ghosts.
* every time, they hope for ghosts.
* everyone on the team but 1 guy believes in ghosts.
* there is never any ghosts.
* instead they figure out why it seems like ghosts.
* sometimes is just misunderstandings.
* other times they solve crimes.
* are basically the scooby gang.
McBurger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:01 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty similar to actual moose spotting! You gotta get extremely lucky to find those suckers. I spend countless weeks in the Adirondack park and have never seen one, although there are frequent sightings by others. I have a close friend that has gone specifically moose spotting 4 times, camping for days in the wilderness with her husband, waiting for moose and has also never seen one. Moose spotting is a lot like ghost hunting!
user_account_deleted ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 14:55:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tell that to "Finding Bigfoot"
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:40:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't believe in the paranormal but when Ghost Hunters and Ghost Adventures came out I watched them all the time. I loved to amuse myself by listening to everyone say, "Did you hear that?" or, "What the hell was that?" All the time. Those shows are absolutely ridiculous but people still love them.
The guy Steve who was/is on Ghost Hunters said in an interview that during all the years he's been with GH, he's never seen a ghost. Ya think?
ciambella ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:05:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought Ghost Adventures was really funny when it first came out. Over the top bros freaking out in the dark makes for good mindless TV IMO. I wrote to Zak a million years ago on MySpace (lol) and he asked me what places in my state would be good to visit for activity. A few years later they went to the two places I suggested and didn't get shit all night lol.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:44:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That show should be called, All About Zak. He is so full of himself it isn't even funny. He has another show now called After Shocks. He sits and talks to people who were affected by 'ghosts' from episodes. I watched another show he had but don't remember what it's called. It's about him in his weird house talking about the 'haunted' objects he collects. He has a van in his house that is allegedly haunted and among other items he has a life preserver ring that was on the boat that Natalie Wood fell off of. I have Sling TV so there is/was only one episode of this show. He's a strange person.
As you know, in the beginning of the Ghost Adventure shows you hear Zak say that he never believed in ghosts until he came face to face with one. I looked it up and what he claims happened was that he saw the ghost of a woman who had died but not in the building where Zak saw her. She died across the street in another building. Why in the hell would she leave there and go to another building? If this is why he believes in ghosts he is a jackass.
theduqoffrat ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 17:57:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
depends on the show though... I feel like Ghost Adventures is pretty respectable, but other shows like Ghost Asylum is a complete joke.
bak1984 ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 18:42:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know about authenticity, but Ghost Adventures is at least entertaining. Zak is just this strange mixture of goth, nerd, and meat-head that just works. Ghost Hunters was entertaining for the first couple seasons, where they barely found anything, then I guess the producers told them to amp it up and suddenly they were finding demons and elementals around every corner. Plus a lot of their "evidence" was obviously faked, which I know most of, if not all of it, is fake, but at least put some effort into it.
PlaidComfort ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 22:00:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is so on-point. Lol'd at this.
zoozema0 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 19:30:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's such an idiot though. I only watch that show because he is hilariously dumb.
MyDamnCoffee ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 03:37:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I personally find Zak to be a little full of himself. There was an episode where they went to Dolly Parton's house and they were interviewing her. Nick made the mistake of asking Dolly a question after Zak had asked one and the look Zak gave Nick...I'm surprised Nick didn't shrink into a tiny ball.
Plus, he liked to have girls that he met while filming come in and "stir up the ghosts." I always felt like it was a front to get laid. "Let me get you on TV, now, spread them legs, slut!"
Shed412 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:43:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also my favorite. One episode a 17 year old girl screamed from a bus, "ZAK, I THINK YOU'RE HOT!" Which seemed like the most legit thing to have happened. If that was fake I'll be sad
dickbutts3000 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:46:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah the early Ghosthunters episodes were mainly them saying "Yeah that's just dust, that's a bug, that's the pipes making noise." Then it turned into "DID YOU HEAR THAT! OMG LOOK BEHIND THE CAMERA! THAT TINY BLIP WAS A VOICE!!!"
DrDongStrong ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 21:07:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is Ghost Adventures the one where dudebros are just yelling at ghosts? I heard this described on a podcast and it sounded like the shittiest, yet funny, ghost show yet.
sadcumbby ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:12:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep!
quitegonegenie ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 18:50:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like Ghost Adventures for the historical background of the haunted places they visit. The ghost hunting is all BS, of course.
Morningwoodlumberco ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:47:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly I am ready to accept some of not all of GA is fake. I love those three goons and they make good television. I got to meet them in high school and they were all super cool guys.
Calkky ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:44:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to love Ghost Adventures. After they didn't experience anything tangible for 4 seasons, it lost its steam for me.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:30:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean... what exactly did you expect?
Calkky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:11:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A little something to keep the intrigue?
TrilobiteTerror ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:45:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"didn't experience anything tangible"
Haven't there been multiple instances such as when Zak got scratched on the back or when they were filming with night vision in a completely dark room and they heard a noice and the night vision of the camera reveal the noise to be a picture frame turning by itself, and other instances like that? Whether you believe those things were faked or not, they're still tangible.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:47:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're just as fake as every other ghost show. Just like ghosts.
nickability ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:45:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really want to believe it's real... Can someone clarify this?
LordGhoul ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:03:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're all fake.
xThatGuy222x ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 18:48:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I want you to really look at your comment and then look at the stance the rest of Reddit took on this topic and then go sit in the corner and think about what you've done.
Hokoganbrother ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:17:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Respectable? Ghosts aren't real.
kyrawesome ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:40:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about Mission: Apparition? Dan and Larry seem pretty real, they had that whole episode where some guy got attacked by a ghost in the library.
tommygunz007 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:43:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But how many Ghost Hunters shows had NOTHING going on? Like 99%... But it was still cool.
restlesssheep ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:01:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The sound guy should be drowning in fame right now
TheCatcherOfThePie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:13:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, the one ghost that's confirmed to exist is the ghost of that sound guy!
BaconZombie ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:45:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They filmed in Ireland.
The "altar" they found in the castle dungeon is still there but most of the paint has come off the styrofoam.
It was 100% fake that they added lots more props to the castle.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:02:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://youtu.be/ObYL5YQi3lM
M002 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
sees link: hope it's south park ghost scene.
clicks
so glad I was right
OneGoodRib ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:28:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey, now, I don't know about every ghost hunting show, but there were plenty of episodes of Ghost Hunters where they admit they didn't find anything. Like the most compelling evidence they would say was most likely just dust spots and headlights. They also would say a lot that a high emf reading, while being ooh ghosts, is also and more likely an indication of old wiring and piping, which can cause nausea and hallucinations, which could easily account for "ghost" sightings.
But I love shows like that - it's like the fun parts of a scary movie without the super scariness. Just the "Ah! What was that?!" fun parts.
Joey__stalin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:35:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a mark for ghost stories, and I always figured GH must be real because, well, if they're faking it they aren't trying very hard. They never really find much of anything!
KellyisGhost ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love when they are all, "did you hear that!?" And there is this vague sound in the background followed by an overpowering computer sound effect intended to intensify the scene. Dude, I can't hear any of this scraping or whatever you hear over your own sound effects.
Probably the point, but still.
thechairinfront ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:47:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went out camping this weekend to a small town that has recently had Bigfoot sightings. Bigfoot Hunters is coming out there next month. It's a small town. Population of 366. The town is going to more than double in size because of all the people coming out. It'll be a great boost for the economy out there I'm glad they're going out. I've never watched the show though.
danstem ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:50:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend worked as a PA on one in our city and they "ghost" they found in the end was just him walking past a door holding some stuff. He didn't even know they were shooting him.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:50:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I was on youtube one time and started searching for videos of my local village just to see what came up.
To my surprise there was a video from a house that some sort of youtube based ghost hunting team had gone to and it was exactly what you expect, the host telling the other guys about all sorts of rumours and spooky shit that the house was "famous" for in the local area. And of course of all sorts jump scare moments with night vision and bumps in the night etc. as the team freaked out.
Except... My grandfather built that house and my dads side of the family all lived in it for about 10 years before my grandfather burned it to the ground when he fell asleep while smoking (he was ok).
The land was later bought by an Indian family who rebuilt it and turned it into a restaurant which was not all that successful and changed hands a few times.
I assume that one of the various Restaurant owners let these Ghost hunters in to shoot their show.
They did not appreciate me commenting on their youtube video and telling their audience what they had done.
Edit: On a side note... the last owners of the place failed to turn it into a money maker just like those before them and burned it down all over again for the insurance money. Its been sitting as a ruin for about 4-5 years now. The only thing its haunted by is the ghost of shitty Vindaloo curries.
KidPrince ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I stayed overnight on the USS Hornet as a school trip, and we watched the Ghost Hunters episode on it and one of the tour guides explained what most of the things are, and how almost everything was fake. At one point they 'saw a person' which was really one of the guides. Even though they knew it wasn't a ghost, they still edited it so it looked like it.
The trip was pretty cool though, we went into one of the rooms (foxle?) and they told us more 'legitimate' ghost stories and some little things happened like flashlights turning on and detectors beeping. I'd tell more stories from the trip, but I don't think this is the right place.
Here's the episode, with the timestamp of the 'person' https://youtu.be/Cq9v65iw1_w?t=25m45s
Joetato ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
6-7 months ago, I saw this one ridiculous show were people were hunting Bigfoot. It's so fake and set up it's obvious even just watching it normally. For instance, in the episode I saw, they were investigating by a lake or pond or something when there's this splash. Cuts to an interview clip of the guy who was in the water saying, "Bigfoot just ran up to me from the trees nearby and threw me int he water! It was crazy, he just lifted me up and tossed me in! Then he ran back into the forest before anyone could stop him! He knows we're trying to find him and is sabotaging us!"
Of course, the cameras couldn't quite get to it in time and you just saw him go flying into the water. Later in the show, they find some woman who claims to have totally clear footage of Bigfoot walking around in her backyard that she took on her phone or tablet or something. the investigators watch it and say stuff like "Oh my god! That's totally a Bigfoot, clear as day! This proves they live around here." They never actually showed the footage on the show, just the reactions of the investigators.
I really wish I could remember what show this was because it was stupid as hell but simultaneously amusing as fuck to watch.
mohavewolfpup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh... I keep forgetting to find a copy of one of those bowel movements shot at a closed casino here twice. Saw a snippet of it and hoped they fell down a flight of stairs...
shinypretty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OMG my husband cannot stop once you start him on these shows. He will go on for DAYS about "if it's there, how come everyone who goes there doesn't experience it" and "those are spots on your lens, not orbs" and I don't even remember what-all he rants about, but he is completely correct.
MyriadMuse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Neverrr Ghost Adventures is real! I want to beliece those goofuses actually believe in this shit. That's the only way I find it entertaining.
julesburne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A close friend of mine was on a low-budget ghost hunter show, and he doesn't like to talk about it. He SWEARS up and down that some old china jumped off of a shelf and broke while they were there, among other things. I totally believe it's all scripted and fake, but I think maybe they don't let some of their actors in on it, because he's still petrified to this day. Poor kid.
donutsfornicki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love those shows because they give me creepy buildings to google. Then I have hours of wikipedia to get into.
noyart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:05:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
oh no, not ghost hunters, my favorite ghost hunting show, damn. Seriously tho, TAPS <3. They do have a film crew following them around so, not surprised ^ Its fun because the visit some historical places even in Europe in one season ^
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
These shows are my guilty pleasure. They're so fucking awful and pointless, but I can't stop watching them when I'm hanging out in a hotel room doing nothing else.
Boner_Mountain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:30:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jokes on them since nobody believes that shit already
TheAquaaGiraffe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:10:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not all though. I dont believe TAPS (The Ghost Hunters) are fake. I live in WV near the Trans Allegheny Lunatic Asylum and have been there multiple times and been on tours and have experienced a lot of stuff there. I know some of the stories and what sprits haunt what places and what happens and stuff. When the ghost hunters came here and did their investigation and the show aired, a lot of the stuff theyd seen was stuff that really happens down there
wolfman1911 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:33:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That reminds me of something. I don't remember what it was, but it was some ghost hunter show. It was the stupidest thing I've ever seen, they were basically talking shit to get the ghost to appear, calling it a coward and such. I'm having a hard time writing this out right now because it was so dumb that I feel stupid for credulously writing it down. Anyway, at one point, they turn this corner, and are filming into this room, and a brick or something flies at the wall out of nowhere. They start freaking out and run away.
The thing is, the brick came into the shot from behind a doorframe or something, where you couldn't see what was back there. You had nothing but your trust in the two guys and the camera man to make you believe a bit of it.
gitsao ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My nephew use to watch that show and I told him he should just watch the news because if they legitimately find a ghost it'd be on the news.
greyjackal ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:30:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
"Mary loves Dick!"
edit - for clarification, this was a wind up of a "renowned medium", Derek Acorah, from the UK's Most Haunted show, where he was fed information (as they all are) and fell for it hook, line and sinker. I think he quit his appearances after that actually.
StuTim ยท 211 points ยท Posted at 18:20:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Had a friend who worked on the Kardasians, they were filming a huge party. It was dead, no one doing anything. The producers asked of anyone had any ideas, friend mentioned beer pong. Producers made him act like a guest and teach the mom to play to make the party look fun. Everything is fake.
KitKatMasterJapan ยท 173 points ยท Posted at 23:34:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Kardashians are fake? I am totally shocked/s
Retromagika ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:01:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL The Kardashians TV Show is Fake /s
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:00:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I detect a small hint of sarcasm...
jansencheng ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:30:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh no! What a shocker! My whole life has been turned upside down!
DynamoAC ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:02:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No! Really?
[deleted] ยท -12 points ยท Posted at 02:32:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท -34 points ยท Posted at 02:54:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Silvystreak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:44:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn this really triggered the special snowflakes
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:10:57 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I FUCKING REMEBER THIS EPISODE ROB DIDNT WANT KRIS TO GO TO HIS PARTY SO SHE CRASHED IT ANYWAY AND WAS VERY SKILLED AT BEER PONG AND ALL OF ROBS FRIENDS THOUGHT KRIS WAS REALLY FUN AND THEN AT THE END ROB DECIDED THAT MAYBE HIS MOM WAS FUN TOO
NothappyJane ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 02:38:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They engineered their stories for years, most people know that watching the show. The only real part is the quips between sisters. Khloe and Kourtney are legitimately funny
Cricket-Jiminy ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:53:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They are the most boring family.
catsgelatowinepizza ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 12:49:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I dunno. a 16 yo dating a 25 yo, a sister with a sex tape as her claim to fame, a recluse brother dating the ex of the said 16 yo's current boyfriend...
it's all very trashy, anything but boring. they're just trash with money
Silvystreak ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 16:44:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're the richest white trash in the country
mohavewolfpup ยท -36 points ยท Posted at 00:36:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Missed a chance to lock the doors, gas the set and toss a match...
edit: Every downvote shows a kardashian lover... Remember that a killer basically unleashed these wastes of space on the planet...
I need to take a shit now, anyone want to film it?
TheRagingHerp ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 06:26:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/r/killthosewhodisagree
mohavewolfpup ยท -11 points ยท Posted at 07:15:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
exactly
TanstheMan14 ยท 199 points ยท Posted at 16:41:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heard from a tattoo artist that he had auditioned to be on Ink Master and met Kay Kutta (Season 2) and he explained that to be part of the show they look for personality traits and flanderize the hell out of you to make a character that can create drama to the show. Kay Kutta did actually have a criminal record so they used that to make him "the bully" of that season. The tattoo artist who I was talking with claimed Kay is actually a really cool and nice guy.
apple_shampoo182 ยท 98 points ยท Posted at 19:34:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was a canvas during season 3 of Ink Master. Anyone remember that crazy girl who stormed out because the Tattoo artist made her feel uncomfortable? 100% real. She completely lost it and started screaming to the point that all the artists were standing out side of their rooms watching it unfold.
Nixie9 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:23:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't remember this, you have a clip? or maybe an episode or something so I can google?
silenozJ ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:14:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Iirc, james danger had his canvas walk out, it was the ep where they had to tattoo a phoenix
plastiswafer ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:32:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think that was it. There was a younger girl who kept passive aggressively provoking him, and then he started getting overwhelmed and shaking with anxiety, and she wouldn't let up about how scared and uncomfortable he was making her. He eventually said he just wasn't the artist for her and she stormed out. I don't recall her yelling, but she really laid it on thick.
Gabbitrabbit ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:25:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember that. I felt so bad for him that was a terrible thing to deal with. She made me legitimately angry.
JJWentMMA ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 04:56:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"You added that shit widdout tellin me"
donutsfornicki ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:20:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I stopped in season 2. What did the artist do?
Slowdayattheoffice ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:08:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was that the season where the canvases voted on the tattoos? I always wondered about how the people felt whose tattoo got voted worst.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:44:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Awesome name
[deleted] ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 19:59:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I try to watch this show every year, and I get completely annoyed with the yelling, posturing and half-assed threatened fights. I'm actually glad to know they do it for storyline, but holy shit, it wears on my nerves.
NoBudgetBallin ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 21:01:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just like seeing the tattoos. We always fast forward through the "house drama" crap to see the challenges and finished tattoos.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:22:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's how I watched "Ink Master" online. Just jump past the fights on ProjectFreeTv straight in. I think that's probably why they threw some of the arguing into the judging panel, so people still get drama no matter if they skip or not.
AvocadoVoodoo ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:15:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same here. I miss Best Ink. The contestants weren't all assholes, and it was about the results, not the gorilla chest thumping.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:55:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Felt like the judges weren't as bias as well and there were more talents in one season than on Ink Master... :/
[deleted] ยท 31 points ยท Posted at 19:46:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think that anybody with half a brain knows that all of the drama and interpersonal bullshit that happens on the show is fake but it's extremely hard to fake a tattoo which is why I like shows like that. I watch for the tattooing, not for the interpersonal drama.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:04:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I dislike about cutthroat kitchen. I want to see what they cook, and how they work around the sabotages. I couldn't give a shit about the forced shit-talking and drama.
PennyPriddy ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:19:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That being said, I went to high school with a kid who was later on Cutthroat Kitchen. If anything, it seemed like they were downplaying how insufferable he was and how fed up with him the other chefs were since he went on to win.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:08:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh wow, maybe you're right. It just seems like most of the shit-talking the contestants do is really forced, and it seems like most of them don't even want to be doing it
PennyPriddy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:12:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of it probably is. I really have no expertise on Cutthroat, I only have expertise on one kid I didn't care for in high school.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:44:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fair enough. Would you mind telling me which episode it was?
PennyPriddy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:03:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I honestly can't remember. I think when it came out, my mom told me about it and I found it then but I don't know if I could find it now.
wildabeast861 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:51:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Neat, I work at the coffee shop Oliver Peck goes too, VERY COOL DOOD, thing is that they tell him that he has to be the hard ass of the show.
empathetix ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:56:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really? I always thought of Oliver as being kinda sweet. I think he is definitely very honest, as a judge should be, and sets the bar high for the artists. I think he'd be a nice guy to chat with, seems very chill.
wildabeast861 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:00:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
HE IS AWESOME to talk to, it'd just make better tv if they had an ass
EDIT:a word
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:04:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Flanderize? Stupid sexy Flanders.
apple_shampoo182 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:34:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was a canvas during season 3 of Ink Master. Anyone remember that crazy girl who stormed out because the Tattoo artist made her feel uncomfortable? 100% real. She completely lost it and started screaming to the point that all the artists were standing out side of their rooms watching it unfold.
Blued00d ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:57:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I loved the first and second season, but after that it was pretty obvious it became more about the drama and not the art. "I can tattoo circles around your ass" got really old.
sum_beach ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 09:44:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's why Anthony was my favorite this past season, he didn't bully anyone and he just let his work speak for itself basically
BlackMantecore ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:33:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His tattoos are terrible though
Garth101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:22:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I knew he had to be cool! Just a feeling I had about him.
mr_lemonpie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:37:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kay seemed like a chill guy. And that honestly doesn't sound fake so much as just necessary casting practices. If they were giving the artists more time etc that would be fake and deceiving IMO. All the editing and drama just makes for good tv so long as the actual challenges are legit.
Feler42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:18:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh shit finally a show I watch
monumentclub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"flanderize"?
TanstheMan14 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:47:56 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Flanderization is when a character starts off one way but becomes totally different by the end because the writing staff uses own popular trait and makes it their whole persona. It comes from Flanders from the Simpsons, who started as a friendly neighbor but eventually became a religious nut. Another is example is Stewie from family guy, starts off as a baby wanting to rule the world, now is just gay. Seemed to fit here.
monumentclub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:17 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
TIL. Thanks for explaining.
Edit: I should also say that I worked on 3 seasons of Ink Master. The tattooing and judging are 100% legit; I can't speak from any sort of authority on the reality and characterization portion of the show.
Pmcandew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh crazy! I've been tattooed at Oliver Peck's shop while he was there. He was kind of just in the zone tattooing. seems like he is a decent dude.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:41:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I watched that show a couple of times. Is it the one where the contestants have to do a tat on someone but the person getting it doesn't know what it will be? I can't even imagine allowing this to be done to me.
_MechE ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:54:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No nothing like that
Nixie9 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:27:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes that's a thing, like you can get any tattoo at all regardless of if you want it, the final is like that and it's usually a full back piece, which sounds awful, sometimes its mega vague, like they want an eagle but the artist decides the whole design, and sometimes its pretty specific, like they want a black and grey realistic arm tattoo of their mums face. Either way they're often a bit pissed off.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:01:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pissed I loved that show.
joltto ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:22:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All the drama shit was stupid but seeing the tattoos was still cool and no way to fake that.
Geeeboy ยท 66 points ยท Posted at 17:16:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm tour guide in the mountains here in Canada and we currently have a program being filmed in town. Essentially the idea is that 12 random people all have to run different areas of a hostel. (Kitchen, laundry, entertainment, etc). Anyway on each of the episodes, the 'staff' all go out and do something around the town, be it going to a bar or in my case, on a 4x4 tour.
I was leading the tour for their safety but they brought in some macho guy with ripped camo pants to be the on screen guide, while I was about 20 meters ahead leading him. After that, we were made to stop because the producers decided it was time for a dramatic scene. I think one of the guys was to say something offensive to one of the girls and she was to throw a drink in his face . We were there for about 40 minutes while this poor gelled up guy had a bottle of water filled up, thrown in his face, dry off, filled up and repeat.
Good times.
penny-lane21 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:49:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you're in Whistler, then I dodged a bullet. I was being bombarded by a casting director to participate in a show like this, during this exact time. I declined cause of my real life job but this definitely makes me feel better about my decision.
Geeeboy ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:20:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Impressive you knew that! Yep, up here in Whistler.
penny-lane21 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:37:34 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in Toronto and they were begging for me to do it. Sometimes I regret it cause I think it would have been a cool opportunity but I also need to be responsible. Thanks for sharing that! Was wondering if it was happening.
TheSandwichKing ยท 389 points ยท Posted at 23:13:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I won Food Network Star season 7 fair and square. No shenanigans whatsoever. Maybe a little creative "nudging" during the narrative interviews to create a cleaner story, but nothing that changed the course of the competition. Every cooking competition was legit. If you made bad food, or presented poorly, you got called on it and eventually went home if you kept repeating these mistakes. I fortunately, made fewer mistakes, so I did not go home...
travelton ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 00:12:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Loved that season! Your personality is great Jeff!
ultrab0ii ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:52:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey!! You're the chef that reminds me of Jimmy Fallon lol
TheSandwichKing ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 13:32:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I get it ALL the damn time. I've done his show before too and we had a nice discussion about being each others dopplegangers. I told him I was the skinny Fallon, he told me he was the Richer Mauro. Touche.
GlamorousHousewife ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:07:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OMG! I can't believe you are a redditor!!!
I would kill to be on FNS but at this point I feel like the show is more about the best at cooking crazy food under pressure, not who would actually be a fantastic FNS.
Any chance you would do an AMA?
TheSandwichKing ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 05:47:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did an AMA about 5 years ago, but will do one again soon. It's a blast and I do spend most of my internetting time on Reddit.
CooterMarie ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:54:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just chiming in to say that I hope you will too. I will keep an eye out. I love FNS and you are hands down my favorite competitor from any season.
fordgawn ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 23:45:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing about this thread but I make so many of your recipes and they are all great. Kudos to you.
TheSandwichKing ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 05:46:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks. I take Immense pride in writing all my own recipes by my damn self.
IslamicCaterpillar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:20:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Now that's something to stand behind. I don't watch much TV anymore, but I loved your show.
Mr_Bubbles ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:01:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We were rooting for you Jeff! We also watch the kitchen every weekend and you and GZ are our favorites.
TheSandwichKing ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:37:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He is the best. My goal, while taping that show is to crack up GZ and Sunny. I always try to pepper in nuanced "side-eyes," innuendos, deep-cuts and references that only some might get. I love when people tweet me "loved your Stern reference" or "did Jeff Mauro just quote a line from UHF." Its truly a blast.
Overall, the most thrilling part about this wonky TV career is literally being paid to be the class clown. Finally.
Vidur88 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 04:03:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just watched you on Cutthroat Kitchen this evening! Sad you lost after spending $16 000 on canned chicken. ๐ณ
TheSandwichKing ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 05:51:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Terrible mistake on my part. I was totally crushed after that taping. I blew it and knew it. What hurts the most is that you loose money for your charity and it really hits home
xMeiko777x ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:18:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey Jeff, is food network going to make anymore episodes of The Sandwich King? Or is it strictly The Kitchen these days? I miss your cooking show!
TheSandwichKing ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 05:49:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Strictly the Kitchen for now, but I'm always pitching new ideas, so hopefully a new addition soon. I do miss SK, we had a great run...5 seasons
xMeiko777x ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:03:51 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ugh I'm so late in responding and this thread is dead. But thank you for responding! I am from Skokie and look forward to picking up some Pork and Mindy's BBQ sauce from Jewel soon. I enjoy watching you on the Food Network!!
TheSandwichKing ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:09:25 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks! Our BBQ sauce line is expanding with 4 more flavors, so look out for those. We also have a line of meats coming out as well. Gear up!
elenabuena13 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:27:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I rooted for you from the first episode. Your idea for the show was fun and creative! I also think it'd be great if you did an AMA.
spin56 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:31:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You were my favorite on season 7 because I was so excited that someone loved sandwiches as much as I did.
Loved that season, love your show, love sandwiches.
TheSandwichKing ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:39:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And I love you
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:54:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I watched that entire season, you deserved the win.
TheSandwichKing ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:39:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks
Micbroyo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:28:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jeff is the friggin man. My bf says I'm you Everytime the kitchen is on, I think it's awesome. But I think he's secretly making fun on us.
TheSandwichKing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:48:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is that a bad thing!?
Micbroyo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:16:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's pretty terrific. But he thinks I'm an airhead also. So we got that going for us
ZBQ10 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:33:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ahhh I love you sandwich king! I love watching you whenever you're on the food network and The Kitchen is such a fun show. You crack some great jokes and you seem like such a genuine guy. I love that you're a redditor too!
Miaow73 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:33:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love Food Network Star! If that's really Jeff from season 7, I was so glad you were the winner!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:16:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey you crush it on the Kitchen.
jmverlin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:56:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I want to believe....
AmeriqanTreeSparrow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:02:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So wtf is going on with Ana this season? She's been the absolute worst from the first episode and the keep letting her stay, that HAS to be for dramatic effect.
TheSandwichKing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:30:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
to be honest, i've kinda checked out of this season. I will definitely binge before the finale. It can be hard to watch at times...
goatsaredumb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:05:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Holy shit this is really you! My wife and I watch The Kitchen religiously for you (she likes GZ too....whatever.) Keep up the great work you do man, we are visiting Chicago soon just FOR thr pizza and Pork and Mindys!
TheSandwichKing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:33:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
thanks man! please stop by P&M, its really fun, plus, its BYOB now. If I'm not on the road I'm usually there, so maybe we can chest bump
goatsaredumb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:58:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Look, I am chest bumping SOMEONE at that place...after I eat however to ensure that I go to jail on a full stomach?
CheezIt624 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:09:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love The Kitchen! Glad to see you on it.
vector3487 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:52:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jeff! How amazing. Your season was the last I watched!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:17:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude, you're awesome. Love your show.
delmar42 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:38:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Woot, the Sandwich King! I enjoy watching you when I catch you on TV.
Bobsods ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:33:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never watched this show before, but started watching season 7 last week and I'm halfway through it. ......I wish I wouldn't of read your name. Bah! I was rooting for Vic
EmilioMolesteves ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:57:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You received some heavy downvotes about a schmoooove speaker snafu a few years ago. Did you ever move those speakers?
TheSandwichKing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:43:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ha! My first post to r/vinyl - no, but I invested in some pretty high end dampers for the speaker bases. It totally works for my set up, and until I get some of that network, non-basic cable money, i finna buy me a new house with plenty of space for proper speaker placement. Then I will post a truly SCHMOOVE set up pic and in return, get buckets of Up-Votes dumped all over my chest, neck and shoulders. I want to literally drown in a brook of upvotes.
ProfessorGigs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:10:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yo, Jeff! Nice to see you here. Also I'm happy to hear that the show's real. Keep up the good work!
Kanotari ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:33:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey man! Lot of respect for you. You did a great job that season, and you had some tough competition. My mom might be a little too excited to say something to you, so I'll just tell you she says hi.
TheSandwichKing ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:24:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What up moms?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:37:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually watched that season and I was rooting for you day one! I still remember you were asked to make some dessert and pretty much made an Italian cupcake or something. Judges didn't like it, but it made for great television!
Hope all is well for you!
TheSandwichKing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:45:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
my Italian Sub Cupcake with a Mortadella/Cornmeal Based cake, cantaloupe frosting, cripy pancetta and a prosciutto floret. Ina Garten would even look at it. It was a whimsical abomination and my first true TV trolling moment.
charlietango13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:47:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you make a sandwich??
CakeAndDonuts ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:50:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thankfully I'm sitting down, because realizing you are really Jeff made my knees go weak.
Now I'm off to make a sandwich of sorts for lunch.
SgtFinnish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:51:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never has a username checked out more.
molly__hatchet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:23:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I liked you the most!
Gasrim ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:37:38 on July 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
SAMWICH King*
MpVpRb ยท 221 points ยท Posted at 16:54:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I suspect it's a bit harder to "rig" shit on a crab boat in the Bering sea
depnameless ยท 305 points ยท Posted at 21:57:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All the crabs are extras you can literally find their profiles on IMDB
vogonicpoet ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 03:40:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's where Sammy the Crab got his start, IIRC.
[deleted] ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 17:54:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that "shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhnnnngg" soundeffect when they cut to a new scene is actually added on in post-production
FewReturn2sunlitLand ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 19:09:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In addition, Mike Rowe isn't actually on the boat.
Hingl_McCringleberry ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:57:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But is Harry on the boat?
sdh68k ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:35:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I understood that reference
PM_ME_YOUR_NIPPLE ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:29:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But the Lonely Island is
Zeno_of_Citium ยท 230 points ยท Posted at 16:59:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's all green screen. No-one actually goes out to sea.
Source : Just made it up for downvoats.
mrwizard420 ยท 132 points ยท Posted at 17:40:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Downboats
8thgradehigh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:00:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Downmoats
Going_Live ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:05:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cocks
NNJAxKira ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:18:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Chicken
Argon0503 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:31:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Opilio Crabs
moortiss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Genital crabs
Hingl_McCringleberry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Genital warts
Zeno_of_Citium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:39:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OK, stop now.
angry_badger32 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:08:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Downboaty McBoatface.
nitmotoli ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:44:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Upvoted. Don't you tell me what to do.
OrangeredValkyrie ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:28:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, any drama happening on a cold-ass boat in shitty weather pretty much writes itself.
37214 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 20:33:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not one instance of clogging the toilet on a boat in 5 seasons. 100% fake.
OrangeredValkyrie ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:45:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It might also be weird restrictions on how you're allowed to talk about shit on Discovery Channel. In the Myth Busters episode about polishing a piece of shit, they were only allowed to use very particular terms considered "decent," which happened to exclude the word "turd."
EmilioMolesteves ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:50:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Boat toilets just open and drop your turds into a terd bin. Not sure how it could clog.
Tricky4279 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:09:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A greeenhorn on the Northwestern actually did break the toilet a few years ago.
DwarvenPirate ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:51:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
First crabber I was on we shit in plastic bags and hucked them over the side.
vhfybr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:57:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fucking vacuum systems, literally pieces of shit.
Crassusinyourasses ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:31:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Film 24/7 and edit the stories once you get the footage to editing. If everyone usually wears the same outerlayers day to day then making a story would be easy.
gillyboatbruff ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:02:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought rigging was a major part of sailing.
ixijimixi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:52:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As would be sails...
zzyzx00 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:25:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i hear the next new thing is steam clippers.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:44:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that stuff looks very real. I wouldn't want to be on those boats.
Tricky4279 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:17:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't watch anymore, but I remember there were some editing shenanigans regarding one of the boats, the Maverick. The show made it look like the deck boss walked of the boat when he wasn't allowed to Captain, when in fact he worked the rest of the season. It led to the boat owner ending their cooperation with the show at the end of the season. Also, I remember that Cornelia Marie, the person who owns the boat of the same, not being happy with how they portrayed the guy who took over after Phil died and pulled her support of show.
valiantfreak ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:27:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Pretty sure boats still have rigging
EDIT: sorry /u/gillyboatbruff, you beat me to it
REDZED24 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:53:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Has a few beers a couple years back with a guy from the show while on vacation. He said there was a bit of clever editing and a few of the fights were staged, but the bulk of what goes on like battling the elements and injuries and such were very real.
hypnotoadforprez ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:18:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've gone in a salmon charter before on Lake Michigan, and the first mate was telling my family and I how dramatic production makes the waves look. He said that he used to work on a rig in Alaska and one that fished In Lake Superior. According to him, Lake Superior was much worse in terms of conditions then Alaska.
Snarf_Blarf ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 00:23:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
That probably has alot to do with Salmon fishing occurs during summer when the bering sea is much more mellow than winter. They don't fake the warnings the coast guards give out over the radios.
I was born in Alaska and have friends who have flown search and rescue. It all depends on what part of year you are up there.
Rizzpooch ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True, but I've heard that the crew gets paid a flat rate by the show, so the drama of "we need to catch x number of pounds in a ridiculously short time just to break even on this outing and make sure we're not homeless" but isn't true
blaghart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's surprisingly easy.
Step one: don't go out to the bering sea. Do what every movie company ever does, and film it someplace else while calling it the Bering sea.
Then just film it like you would film a show on a boat.
Alternatively, do the Road Hogs thing (or whatever that go awful biker building reality tv show was) and have the producers start shit or encourage "fights" among the crew.
Or do both. Film someplace safer and less timultuous, fake the storms you need, and encourage the real crew to have fake fights. Then edit it together to make it seem real.
mfg_colour ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:57:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The network owns the fishing spot so boats not associated with them go out of business. This ensures that they get the catch...at least that's what a Redditor said when this was brought up before
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:00:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure rigging is most of what some people do on boats
hedonistjew ยท 250 points ยท Posted at 16:08:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I worked on The SingOff and ABDC for several seasons in the contestant department.
The performances and the performers were all real (and really cool). I listened to Street Corner rehearse Creep on stage one day and got goosebumps from how good they were.
There are decisions made by producers to increase the market value of the show, like keeping a fourth group until the final round because they didn't want to lose a key demographic from the audience.
The finale was always live and based on fanvote online. So, that part was real.
One season of ABDC a contestant broke his leg. That was also sadly real as I was there to witness, call 911, the producers, and my manager. They were concerned about getting b-roll of him going into the ambulance.
He was a really sweet kid.
But these shows are exceptions in the industry, not the rule, and both have been cancelled.
cjhelms ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 18:40:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm glad to hear that something Ben Folds was passionate about was above-board. I enjoyed the Sing-Off
Strabbo ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:46:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd like to think that if there was some overt fakery and staging behind the scenes Ben would have cut out of there after a season.
cookiesforall ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 17:51:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I loved ABDC! How long did the crews have to create their performances?
hedonistjew ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 19:05:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
IIRC they worked with choreographers. Usually the first performance was their own and then they'd have someone come in to navigate them. The groups still got say on their "style" or what moves/songs they wanted to use.
The turnaround time for each episode was about a week, both for ABDC and The Sing Off so they'd have to learn routines and/or arrangements over 6 days.
The contestants basically worked 7 days a week for the length of time they were on the show. If they got cut they would depart on the first flight the next morning.
The rest of us got two days off a week but they'd be middle-of-the-week.
missartteacher ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:34:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's interesting to know about ABDC. I loved that show, and sometimes I would think, 'They MUST have help for some of this!' I still want to see the Jabawokees (sp?) show here in Vegas!
peekykeen ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:44:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A while back I went with the boyfriend at the time to Vegas and because we had saved forever we got to see a few shows. Zumanity, Absinthe, Penn and Teller, and Jabbawockeez. Even with how excited I was for PnT, Jabbawockeez ended up being my favorite show of the trip. It is so worth it.
envyxd ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:13:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ABDC would air edited performances, though. I caught tons of continuity errors.
ODL ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:59:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I worked on ABDC. On the day of taping, there's rehearsal, then dress rehearsal as if it was live with cameras for what's called blocking (aka getting the camera angles and camera movements dialed in...sometimes they'll run it two or three times in blocking). Finally it's done live (ONCE!) in front of a studio audience. Sometimes cameras get better angles during blocking, so they'll use that footage instead of the live one, but ABDC definitely is one of the authentic reality tv shows out there.
marchmay ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 18:37:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I enjoyed the Sing Off! Pentatonix is one of my favorite bands now.
MsAuroraRose ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:32:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same! I can't get enough of them
elaboratefarewell ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:38:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know them personally! We grew up in the same city. They're so great and some of the friendliest people I know.
Halvus_I ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:54:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This sort of thing is so plainly obvious in contest shows. They keep contestants that should have been sent home to keep that 'demo' interested in the show.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:50:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That sucks. ABDC was a cool show to watch
KiNGofKiNG89 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:38:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love both those shows! I wish SingOff would come back again.
Blackeye30 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:23:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Hey I was a contestant on S.O.S2! Can confirm, street corner kicked ass. Actually (almost) all of those groups were phenomenal musicians, the "backstory" stuff was usually pretty b.s. But the competition itself was real, one take in front of the judges, and we had no idea who was going home each week.
Edit to add: the music (and especially a cappella) community is very close knit, the first few episodes they were trying to make us act all cut throat towards each other but actually we all hung out every night in the hotel and were great friends. We genuinely cheered for each other and were genuinely sad when groups went home, so eventually they stopped trying to make it seem hardcore and instead pitched the "Sing-Off: A different kind of competition" message.
hedonistjew ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:09:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the one night in the hotel when literally everyone sang "this little light of mine..." was the epitome of the show for me.
Blackeye30 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:11:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha yea I think there's a video of that floating around somewhere
strongwilleditalian ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 22:45:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My wife and I were die hard ABDC but when "Fanny Pack" lost to the same run of the mill Bboy crew we had always seen it turned us off completely.
AbysswalkerSilent ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:40:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you would humor me would you be able to answer a few questions about the sing off?
Were the groups really only given the week or so between shows to not only choose, but arrange and practice each of their songs?
Were there certain limitations for what the groups could pick or was there a sort of pecking order? For instance no groups ever seemed to pick the same songs week to week. Was it just first come first serve in that regard or how did they go about doing that?
I've gotten to see Streetcorner, Pentatonix, and Home Free all in concert and they've all been fabulous. Even have a CD signed by all the members of Street Corner (Was super fortunate to catch them right after their set). What were your personal favorite groups, if possible specifically ones that WERENT front runners?
hedonistjew ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:11:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They really only got one week!
Typically the vocal arrangements were organized by Deke Sharon and his crew. He's working on Pitch Perfect and Pitch Slapped, now.
There were probably various songs offered to each group, however, the groups were a) very different from each other and b) filled different needs for the show. There was certain songs picked to fill different needs and they were matched to the group.
Street Corner were/are awesome and I stayed friends with many of them after the show wrapped.
From my position, the groups that acted the most professionally in terms of treating being on the show as a job were the groups that were easiest to work with.
The collegiate groups (Beelzebubs, OTR, etc) were fun but also had so many members that it was hard to get everyone where they needed to go on time. The Bubs were especially good at being where they needed to be when they needed to be there.
11th hour were very sweet and very mature for their age. They all had to have chaperones and did schoolwork backstage. It was really impressive.
One time STS stole one of the contestant department walkies and I spent a good hour searching for it before they brought it back. My supervisor was not amused.
As I mentioned in another comment, there would be group hang-outs after episode recordings. Having a farewell party was somewhat typical. During one evening, almost all the contestants were hanging out in the hotel's restaurant and someone started singing "this little light of mine..." Everyone had a turn to sing while the rest of the room kept a beat. It was beautiful listening to nearly 80+ people singing together.
A lot of night-time activity and all the fun that came with it was more in the realm of our night PA.
I mostly got to know some individuals. A lot of the OTR guys. I know some fun stories but it would be wrong to broadcast their lives for them. It's not my business.
AbysswalkerSilent ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's wonderful to know! So for bits such as the "specific musician/ group medleys" each group only has various choices rather than having free reign as to which group they perform?
Reason I ask I was rather intrigued / confused as to why no one chose Michael Jackson (not to mention a few others) as their artist for "Pop artist medley" in season 3.
hedonistjew ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:12:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh! Those kinds of decisions also have a lot to do with what the studio can get access to. If we didn't have the rights to MJ we couldn't use his songs. Royalties cost a lot of $$$
Also, I remembered a couple fun facts. Season 2 there was a huge breakup between members of one group. They got eliminated in the next round.
Also, one of the all-male groups that season had a lead singer that was replaced by another member of the group due to being more marketable AND much more attractive. That caused a lot of drama.
The_Count_Lives ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:33:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't ABDC have a judge that was a pedophile or something?
RanByMyGun ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:44:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shane Sparks
http://www.tvguide.com/news/shane-sparks-sex-felony-abdc-1036437/
Jeepersca ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:12:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Their version of Creep is I think one of the only 'reality tv' songs I've ever purchased! It's AMAZING.
brenna8806 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:39:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I saw them open for Ben folds after their season aired. It was SO cool live. Haunting!
Carlsinoc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:22:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend who had a thing with ABDC. the finale the team he was dealing with obviously won and with their online following and networking there was no doubt they won the vote, but the judges or producers chose the little kid crew. There's something in the contract that regardless the judges make the final decision.
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ImGayHmu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:47:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that season was a huuuuuge part of my life for some reason haha. I miss that show
Carlsinoc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most wanted crew I think it was a few years ago.
mr_lemonpie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:24:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Abdc?
cidonys ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love The Sing Off! I actually got to meet two of the Bubs - one is doing mixing and editing for my acapella group's CD, and the other was part of an acapella workshop I went to! I recognized him and told him that my family loved The Sing Off, and his face lit up and he said "I was on The Sing Off!" I was a bit starstruck and really glad that I could make him that happy. :)
crimson777 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:18:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The big swelling chord Street Corner Symphony hits in Hallelujah is probably the best thing I've seen on television just because I didn't know what the show was when I tuned in, and heard them sing the song and hit that great chord. Amazing.
hedonistjew ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:18:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was at the Americana when we were recording the footage of the groups doing little holiday intros and outros. It was the most festively Xmas related thing I got to do in all my time in LA.
Jeremy Lister is such a talented singer and the whole group was so good and so sweet. I'm really happy that he got healthy and is taking care of himself now.
bluechirri ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:46:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I work with a guy whose college a cappella group was on The Sing Off! Really sweet dude, with a genuinely incredible voice.
Apparently he and a few of his friends managed to sneak out some of the clothes they were given by the costume department and he still has one of the jackets, lmao. He also claims the hotels all the contestants stayed at got really wild.
whatwasmypwagain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:24:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was obsessed with ABDC. Why did they cancel it? I can't imagine that the show lacked viewers (even if half of us were fast forwarding through nearly everything Lil Mama said).
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:42:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you work Season 3? That's my favorite one, mostly because pentatonix
hedonistjew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:49:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes I did!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:24:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How was everyone in person?
hedonistjew ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:34:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some people were divas and some were totally laid back.
The Pentatonix were super professional and treated being on the show like a real job. It was really great.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:51 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha I want to ask who the divas were but you probably can't name names. Judging from interviews and YouTube videos I've seen, everyone in PTX seems really nice and humble
DiscursiveMind ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 19:02:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Went to a filming of American Ninja Warrior. They filmed all night with over 100 competitors, running the course back to back for around 7 hours. The only ones cheering like on the show were family members on sideline, everyone else was kind of quietly observing.
It was impossible to figure out who would make the show and who ended up on the cutting room floor. After watching the actual show on air, even completeing the course didn't guarantee that your run would be shown (several got "over the break so-n-so made it to the end of the course" CUE 2 second cut of button press).
The best bet to making it on air (outside of their stable of famous ninjas) was to fail on the course in a way that nobody else had.
jonosvision ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 02:02:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, you're right, they are totally random with who they let have that screen time. I was surprised last episode when Captain NBC only got a breif clip of him finishing the course, he's been a staple for a few years now.
BPeachyJr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:43:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Favorite ninja. Super pissed still.
jemartian ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:49:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I also went to the filming of it. They had the audience doing cheering and stuff for b roll and one of the announcers repeating the same line forever. Also, the final and semi final are filmed 2 consecutive days, not weeks apart. They do give them the time to finish or fail, we watched a guy who took over 10 minutes I think. We nicknamed him professor turtle because he was so slow! We didn't see any big names run... Overall real and fun to watch.
Fun side note: the floating steps had gotten a layer of ice and a ton of ppl were slipping. After a while they broke out the heaters, but the ppl who were failing because of ice weren't allowed to redo their run.
[deleted] ยท 51 points ยท Posted at 19:02:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My brother-in-law surprised our family a few years back by taking us out to dinner and at that dinner he announced that he was taking an internship in Peru.
...turns out he was on a major U.S. reality show and had signed an NDA and couldn't tell us where he was really going. He ended up being a semi-finalist, going all the way to the finale.
He said the parts that they make especially dramatic--the parts where contestants stand in front of the judges and explain themselves and then ultimately one is sent off of the show--could take hours to film and that each of them would have their reaction filmed a handful of times with the producers standing right there on set, acting as directors/coaches.
He also said that the contestants were constantly supplied with the booze of their choice and were encouraged to drink. He said people were under the influence of alcohol very frequently but that it would never be evident as the cameramen would keep the drinks out of the shots.
As far as the rigging of the results went, he said he was fairly certain that the producers were having the final say, but that the judges were I included in the decision-making process.
HadHerses ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:03:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Drag Race?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:17:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ANTM?
shamelessnameless ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:33:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which show?
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:17:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Survivor?
KyleOTPKN ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:56:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing about the description would describe Survivor, which has no judges, doesn't have alcohol aside from select occasions, and doesn't have producers sending anyone home each week. Survivor's legit.
TheJmaster7x ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:58:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think we have enough AMAs to show that it is real. Honestly the cat would have been out of the bag by now if it were fake.
And along with both of those they were already sued after the first season for allegedly influencing someone's opinion on who to vote out.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 16:15:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
0_0
KyleOTPKN ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:18:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you have a question or something? There's a plethora of online resources to help you find that Survivor is legit.
coriamon ยท 151 points ยท Posted at 16:53:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine was on Cupcake Wars. His team actually came first. He said that the ingredients were partially random; the studio sent his team a list of 5 or so different ingredients that were potentials, and then 3 different themes. He had a plan for every single ingredient and theme if needed them.
kleptominotaur ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:19:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I recently got in to this show lol. What was the name of your friends business? (Or was it someone else he was helping?)
Ichigomuse ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:15:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I also recently got into cupcake wars. Glad to hear its not as bad as other shows
kaihayley47 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 21:19:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is a place up the road from where I live call Happy Cakes and they won Cupcake Wars. I don't watch the show so I don't know the specific episode/season. But that place has the best cupcakes Ive ever tasted. Not entirely related, but they are good cupcakes.
bubblegumpandabear ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:39:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember that episode! Morehead City?
kaihayley47 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:06:18 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:45:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is what I figure about Iron Chef/Iron Chef America, too. There just is no way you can come up with some of those dishes on the fly.
Elryc35 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:32:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Iron Chef usually comes up in these threads, and that's exactly what happens. They tell the chefs 3-5 secret ingredients, the chefs send back what they'll need to prepare their dishes for each ingredient, and they can then figure out which one is under the box when they see what's in their station.
Lokifin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:50:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And no way that the kitchen would automatically have what they needed, especially Iron Chef. They will mention that the chefs bring their own extra ingredients (or order them? Whichever)
jaardreign ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:25:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I freakin' love Cupcake Wars and did a CTRL-F just to see if anyone said anything about it. I figured there had to be some preparation involved, like there's no way the displays aren't discussed prior to arrival on set.
PsychoSemantics ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:56:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently Iron Chef (the original Japanese show - i've never watched any of the spin-offs) was like this too. They'd get a list of potential ingredients that it could be, then they'd have a few weeks to plan their recipes.
tourmaline82 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:43:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The original Japanese was the best! Many fond memories of watching it with my mom and sister, giggling over the over-the-top pageantry and marveling at the chefs' creativity.
PsychoSemantics ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I loved it! I've heard that none of the spin-offs even come close to replicating that magic.
a_s_h_e_n ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:33:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
just a good idea tbh, better to see well-executed plans than a bunch of mediocre ones
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:36:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does he usually let others come before him?
Joking aside, congrats to him, he seems like a good, adaptable chef.
LookAtAllTheseTypos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:36:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That show is SO entertaining
hellotomystalkers ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:37:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on Cupcake Wars (not as a contestant, more like a prop. Long story, but I was on set and on camera nearly the entire time). It seemed to be pretty rigged to me. Producers told the bakers to create nonexistent problems on camera and fed them lines, the cupcakes to be judged were pre made and I think the order of elimination was pre set too. I wasn't impressed.
Tyre-slayer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 10:38:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
More like a prop? I'd be interested in hearing the long story if you have time
hellotomystalkers ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:12:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was tableau vivant (living art, aka human statue) for an art-themed show. So I stood completely still covered in heavy stage makeup and toga like a Greek statue for hours while they filmed :) There's a gorgeous production in California that runs for 2 months a year where they produce 2 hours of tableau vivant set to live music and narration, and providing cupcakes the celebrity gala event was the grand prize for the show.
Side note: I'll get to tell my kids that when I was in my 30s I was applauded for being stark nekkid on stage wearing nothing but makeup pretending to be art, and was not arrested for public indecency but applauded by several thousand people a night ;) I'm a terrible prude in real life...
djherp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:39 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God Ive missed that show
DJSpekt ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 09:33:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That seems about right. Chopped probably works the same way. Cause there is no way them at these people are able to come up with bomb ass recipes with the most random unheard of ingredients on the fly.
drinkscocoaandreads ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:12:47 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
By all accounts, Chopped is actually pretty on-the-level about not introducing ingredients to the contestants until they open the baskets. The judges get a very limited amount of sway over them (Chris Santos mentioned in a recent AMA that they get a brief time to make changes to the baskets if they deem them too difficult, but that's before the contestants ever see them).
You'll notice a lot of Chopped competitors have no idea what some of the ingredients are, and they definitely mess up in the preparation with unusual ingredients all the time. If they were given advance notice, you'd think they'd look up how to properly cook them.
sarcasticapplause ยท 257 points ยท Posted at 16:03:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Relevant Mitchell & Webb sketch...
[deleted] ยท 134 points ยท Posted at 16:59:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it was going to be this one.
Lugonn ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 18:16:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or this one.
[deleted] ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 18:31:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I love how there's always one or two (or three) relevant Mitchell & Webb sketches. It's the new "Relevant XKCD".
There's also this one.
noggin-scratcher ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 23:36:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or this one
MercurialMadnessMan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:57:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh that's bang on!
FewReturn2sunlitLand ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:59:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm lookingforagiftformyaunt.
libraryspy ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:56:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is TOO REAL.
sarcasticapplause ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:07:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yeah, forgotten that one...good stuff.
birdmanisreal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:21:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's advocado you cunt! lmao
evixir ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:13:57 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sorry, my darling... it's... kinder this way...
MyDamnCoffee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:45:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That made me really uncomfortable.
mr_337 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:34:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow my mind is blown, first I've seen of these
TIAT323 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:49:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love M&W, very British humour, I think.
paradoxicalme ยท 140 points ยท Posted at 17:24:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Britain's Got Talent: There are several hidden rounds with producers before you get to the main stage with the judges. My cousin is a very talented musician and got to the last round before the 'auditions', but they said he didn't have the right image. They select the most watchable acts and usually try and avoid any act that's too 'professional', in case they bow out and get a recording contract outside of the show's format - this is just concerning musicians, at least. So not fake as such, but slanted.
CapnObv314 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:58:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A lot of it is fake, though. Like they ha e some contestants compete on multiple versions of "Talent" to boost ratings and the contestants careers. The judges know they are plants but act like they are out of the blue surprises.
Not to mention all the people who they push through who are terrible but they need a demographic. I remember an old lady dance who was TERRIBLE, and not in the good way. Piers Morgan buzzed her every time and told her she was horrible, but they still put her through to the phone stages.
BobXCIV ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:17:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know The Regurgitator has been on multiple "Got Talent" shows. I always thought he was just going around trying to make it big in different countries, but after reading this, it seems like he might have been sent to compete on those shows by the producers.
averagebunnies ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:42:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same with the voice. you had to audition to audition to audition.
chins_up_smiles_on ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:18:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
American Idol is pretty much the same. There are several rounds of auditions in front of producers before you see the show judges.
Axelnite ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:23:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So someone signs up to the show, but they have to go to many rounds before the actual stage?
acesilver1 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:08:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Pretty much. Remember Susan Boyle, the breakout singer from Britain's Got Talent who looked very homely? The producers saw her perform before any of the judges so they obviously knew that she was going to at least make it past the first auditions in front of the show judges. They probably even purposely let her keep her signature look in order to get the "wow" factor too.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:15:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Axelnite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:18:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ok, so say I sign up for BGT. I do the first audition, is this in-front of the judges or the producers? If it's the latter, if they like my performance, I go through another round of auditions. Would I do the same performacne, or another one?
How is it that some absolute melons make it through to the later stages of the show?
bobby8375 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:11:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most of the audience reactions on those audition shows are staged too - they will have some combination of producers/MC/comedians directing the crowd to do various reaction shots at the beginning, with no actual judged participants around, which they can later edit into the TV episode. But yeah they're not going to have the celebrity judges sitting for hours and hours and hours.
Fairy_Squad_Mother ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:49:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of a friend was in a band, they were invited to be on the show. They were told if they appeared on the show they'd be guaranteed a place in the (public votes) final.
KingBooScaresYou ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:01:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend had the same thing, and funnily enough also for the voice which at the time was marketed as BGT for alternative people who may not be supermodels or have the look.
Ironically they told him, 'you dont have the right look for the show'. Spinning fucking chairs my arse.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:28:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, though, not sure how anyone could expect that every act gets on.
Though, I suppose I did believe they had everyone on American Idol. There must be some screening process...
petruspilatus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
all the got talents or idols and the voice, too, do this. but in my country now they also film and air the part of the mass auditions. it has been a public secret, and i think the producers just kinda roll with it and finally show that all that is true. also more montage to air, more money to make.
EpicSausage69 ยท 49 points ยท Posted at 23:03:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Undercover boss is a joke. Everyone knows the show, everyone knows what's going on. Everyone knows who the owner of the store is. And for those who don't are a simple Google search away from knowing.
[deleted] ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 05:52:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I knew from "Hi, I'm Matt."
Jabonex ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 07:31:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm 99.99 per cent sure Matt is Kylo ren.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:02:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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mfg_colour ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:26:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
not to take away from your story but what was the relevance?
dallasmay18 ยท 130 points ยท Posted at 16:40:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I briefly appeared in an episode of Airport 24/7: Miami. My appearance was basically me doing my job the same way I would without cameras rolling. The same was true of the stars of the show since it wasn't like a traditional reality show where they need to create a conflict: the airport does that organically.
They got really lucky that some particularly notable events happened while they were filming, like when the fuel farm caught fire/exploded or when two aircraft collided on the taxiway. Everything they showed on the show actually happened, but editing did make some events seem more dramatic.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:45:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I watched that show a few times. It's actually interesting. What was pretty shocking was all the drugs and guns they had confiscated.
House923 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:47:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you sure they didn't purposely set fire to things so they could film it?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:47:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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ThunderChaser ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:08:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why?
mdd9 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:28:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seems to be a bot that just randomly chooses comments for no real reason. :P
Guy who made it is clearly just testing waters, seen as it's only been online for a couple hours (and the last time it was online was 6 months ago).
House923 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:58:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for the explanation...i was about to ask who the hell was figuring out my comment history lol.
dallasmay18 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:23:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And I was kind of offended that it didn't seem to care about mine.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:40:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I bet there were two producers driving the planes
CapnObv314 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:46:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Lucky" you say? /r/conspiracy
ScrewThis1029 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:37:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That show stressed me the hell out. I remember everybody at work would always have it playing in the break room. I'm like.. We work in a hotel. We deal with similar situations every single day. Why the fuck is this entertaining?
dallasmay18 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:12:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I couldn't watch more than the first few episodes for the same reason.
โWait a minute, this is what I do at work and why I drink. Why am I watching this on my time off when I'm not getting paid?โ
That being said, I love my job and there's never a dull moment.
ScrewThis1029 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:31:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh I bet, there seems to be a ton going on at all times. I don't think I would last working at an airport. Hotels are bad enough, especially ones that are right next to the airport. No way in hell I would want to be in the middle of all of that.
GuruNemesis ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:47:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some PA was out there with a lighter, I guarantee it.
PM-ME-YOUR-STEAMKEYS ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:02:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think this is the episode. Couldn't find the aircraft colliding one.
Fuel farm exploding: starts at 12:57. Aftermath at 19:08
dallasmay18 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:15:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
This is the one I was in: http://www.travelchannel.com/shows/airport-24-7-miami/video/too-many-baggage-fees
The irony is that I have a reputation for being very by-the-book and never waiving fees.
I've been working at MIA since 2008 and have had to call in two terminal evacuations. Never a dull moment.
Also, Heidi is exactly as wonderful in real life as she is on TV, and the Russian family was quite nice too.
nahpuckyoumiss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:36:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would say that this isn't a reality show, more ob-doc/factual.
sadsturbator ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:59:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always found that show fascinating. Just the way so many people work hard to keep such a big busy place running. Boy do I miss it.
dallasmay18 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:22:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a huge appreciation for Disney World for the same reason. My niece and nephew see the magic, but I see all the work that goes into it and love it even more than when I was a kid.
restlesssheep ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which episode ?
PM-ME-YOUR-STEAMKEYS ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:03:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think this is the episode. Couldn't find the aircraft colliding one.
Fuel farm exploding: starts at 12:57. Aftermath at 19:08
dallasmay18 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:24:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
http://www.travelchannel.com/shows/airport-24-7-miami/video/too-many-baggage-fees
Bier_vor_Vier ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 22:31:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had cousins on Extreme Home Makeover about 10 years ago. Everything is pretty much real. They built an entire house in about 4 days. They had pre-fabbed pieces for the roof trusses, but everything else was built in the spot. They still live in the house, and only had a few issues (when you build a house so fast, there are bound to be problems). It was a 10/10 experince for them, and I was happy to see it work from the inside out.
ScrewThis1029 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 06:37:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is good to hear! I was just reading an article about a few of the families who had foreclosed on or sold their home that was built for them because they couldn't afford utilities/property taxes and stuff. It made me a bit sad.. Glad it worked out for your cousins though!
Leitadala ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:48:15 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you my cousin? We were on that show 10 years ago. The only thing I would really say is "fake" was the crying/emotional scenes. It took about an hour for Ty to dig into things to make my mom cry, but on the show it looks like he sat down to chat and she just started bawling lol
Tbjkbe ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:14:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No it's not. Yes, they build a house in record time but the show does not pay anything.....it's all locally donated as the companies PR team guilt trips local businesses or promises them advertising which is barely there. The people who do all the work designing and building are off the air. The on-air people are actors who are filmed over and over again looking like they are working when they really are not. And the crowd is taped over and over again to get the right reactions for the reveal.
sunt_leones ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:08:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went to a filming in my hometown a few years ago. When the family drove up to the house for the big reveal ("move that bus!") it was obvious that from the angle they drove in they could clearly see the home already. The moving of the bus and their reactions were also taped multiple times.
Leitadala ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:03 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On our episode our house was on a hill, so when they had the limo pull up they made us all put on blindfolds so we wouldn't see anything. Don't know if it was the same for your family's show though.
Dr_Ghamorra ยท 227 points ยท Posted at 16:35:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The history channel doesn't use real professionals. I'm not even sure they're real doctors half the time. Maybe some guy who has a PhD in an unrelated field. But most of the time they people they have talking about stuff are fake experts who provide "interesting" interviews.
demonmutantninjazomb ยท 117 points ยท Posted at 18:48:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But... The pyramids were built by aliens!
mslaurasmith ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:36:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know how true it is but the "Aliens" guy from Ancient Aliens doesn't have a degree in anything related to aliens. I've heard it's in something like fitness and that he used to be a body building promoter๐
coolsnail ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 22:57:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is there any such thing as a degree related to aliens? Asking for a friend
rowanbrierbrook ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 09:26:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can specialize in astrobiology when getting a Ph.D in Astronomy. It's a legitimate field, but it's not like "aliens built the pyramids". It's more like "what sort of conditions lead to or are required for life and how could we detect these in exoplanets."
ZoomJet ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:11:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend Bob does one if you like
newginger ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:46:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bob loves painting happy little aliens.
blaghart ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:18:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, pretty much any degree you'd need to get hired at NASA
Aceofspade159 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:53:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm, majoring in aerospace. Day 1 of class was how to prevent aliens from interfering with your craft's systems.
StevenSanders90210 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:22:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went to college with him. I can't speak to his major but I can tell you it was a small college with limited areas of study and aliens was not one of them. Fitness on the other hand was very popular.
Edit: Found him! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giorgio_A._Tsoukalos
nessie7 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:22:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Since he's got a new show and has been in the spotlight again lately, I googled him a few days ago.
He is the director of Erich von Dรคniken's Center for Ancient Astronaut Research. He has a bachelors degree in sports science.
I have some of von Dรคnikens books, because they're hilarious reading, and also complete and utter fiction. It does annoy me a bit that that guy is better paid for doing fake anthropology than I will ever be for doing real stuff.
LegendaryGrunt ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:19:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm.
Source: Doctorate in Alien Pyramidology.
Superlegoman ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:29:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Found Daniel Jackson
Spectre1313 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:53:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That dude (Tsoukalos) is the embodiment of not-an-expert.
Hingl_McCringleberry ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:42:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ayy
floppyandscaly ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:30:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
lmao
Blaaa5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:16:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Aliens"
diablette ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:30:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I too saw the documentary Stargate.
passiveaggressiveMN ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:40:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought they stored grain for Adam and Eve??
redfacedone ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 18:49:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In one of the shows they have (I think it's called The Bible or something) they test stories from the bible to see how they could have been done using tech. They were talking about superconductors and the Ark of the Covenant levitating, and to explain superconductors they cut to some guy with a cutting edge "hologram glove" that was a normal glove with a hockey puck or something on the back with wires capped with yellow and red sphere on it. The show had been mildly amusing until that point, but for whatever reason that glove made me really angry.
hewhoreddits6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:37:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, that shit pisses me off as a Christian. I would love to see an actual test of it done in an objective way.
itme0001 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:01:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My college professor was asked to appear on Ancient Aliens about an episode involving the ark of the covenant or something related to ancient Israel, but when she didn't say anything weird or didn't agree to what strange accusations they were making they thanked her and sent her packing
Edit: spelling
mpeskin ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:48:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mark Hall-Patton (expert on pawn stars) is actually the curator for several museums in Las Vegas and knows his stuff.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:08:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, he is the real deal, sucks people will think less of him for being on Pawn Stars.
Xperr7 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:59:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The main reason I watch Pawn Stars is what I learn about things
T_Right ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:49:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It always pissed me off when he would never tell the price/value of an item. Any idea as to why he wouldn't?
roocarpal ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 20:52:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most of the historians on Pawn Stars are legit. I go to UNLV and a few of our professors have been on the show.
mpeskin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:49:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go Rebels! My girlfriend had Patton's wife for anthropology.
VeryLittle ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:37:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I stumbled on an episode of ancient aliens about Einstein and some crazy shit. They managed to get a very well respected astrophysicist to say some stuff about Einstein and "thought experiments" which they clearly edited to make it sound like he was implying Einstein was doing something magic with his brain.
Seemed like a lot of work to waste an expert's time just to get a few soundbites when the audience won't know the difference.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:26:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure by now no one trusts the History Channel.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:20:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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I_Do_Not_Abbreviate ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:12:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The second one is probably Stanton Friedman.
EwoksMakeMeHard ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:00:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not a big deal because they don't show real history.
slothwhispererr ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:29:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of my history professors did actually work for the History Channel back in the '90s. Not sure what he did, though.
edit: he helped make some documentaries. nice.
petergriffin132693 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:32:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some of them are real. I forgot what the show was, but I remember the expert. Her name is Candida Moss and she is a lecturer and also a writer. Go check that up if you're curious
themiragechild ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:38:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a professor who was on a History channel documentary in his field.
winplease ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:59:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've been 'squatchin for 37 years and got a phD in metal detectors
Orcwin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:17:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What would they use professionals for? I mean, if they'd had documentaries, then I could see why they would need them. All I ever see when I skip past that channel is 'reality' bullshit though. people digging for 'treasure', people driving trucks on ice, people digging for gold, people cutting trees.
Come to think of it, most of those things would get quite a bit more interesting to watch if they were done by complete novices.
495349805-__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They did, back in the day when they actually aired historical documentaries (early 00s and earlier I guess). Their stuff was actually really good and got me on my current career path. I have to admit, I haven't watched the channel since like 2002.
Salt-Pile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is interesting to me. The first time I ever saw the History Channel was about 2 years ago and I experienced cognitive dissonance because the way it was always talked about, I was imagining something with serious, legit documentaries and instead it was all Ancient Aliens and Bigfoot.
495349805-__ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:21:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was great back in the day. They aired Simon Schama's History of Britain and a joint production (I think) with CNN on the Cold War.
My assumption is that the audience just wasn't large enough for that serious stuff, so they started doing the garbage they're apparently doing now. Oh well.
Salt-Pile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:39:38 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks, this has explained such a lot!! I felt confused and disillusioned, thinking every time a character in a book mentioned it (for example, describing someone's tastes) it either hadn't indicated what I though it did, or else the person doing the talking had odd ideas about what is serious viewing.
I can quite imagine it starting out a lot better. That Simon Schama doco is really entertaining.
jspaul33 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:24:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They seem to in the show I watch called Universe. Really the only show I used to watch on there
Dangasdang ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was watching the Smithsonian channel the other day when they had a marathon about military aircraft. I thought it was the coolest thing that they just had Air and Space Museum Curators and military personnel (active and retired) explaining everything, instead of all the made up experts like History.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My professor had us watch an episode of ancient aliens (or some other similar history channel show) because he was on it. He was just as weird on the show as he was in class
LeeCards ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not entirely true about not using real professionals. Several of my professors in Uni have been on relevant History documentaries, but the thing is, History edits the crap out of the interviews. It sucks because my professors have so much to contribute, so many unique viewpoints, but the parts History chooses to keep are usually just redundant statements so that they can use "Professor" to qualify their documentary's claims. They take stuff mid-sentence in a casual setting and make it sound like the leader in the field is making some authoritative statement on the matter.
TCesqGO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:23:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of my college professors was on a History Channel show, talking about his direct area of study. They definitely use real experts at least some of the time.
tourmaline82 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:38:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha, they should use one of my old history professors. We had class on April 1st, and he prepared a whole lecture and Powerpoint on the "lost continent of Mu", complete with book citations. He delivered that lecture with a perfectly straight face, to the point where I was taking notes. (To be fair, I had been in college so long at that point that it was extremely difficult to listen to any kind of lecture without taking notes. It was reflex.) Then at the very end, still completely deadpan, he said "Oh, and by the way... April Fools."
Best April Fools joke I've ever encountered in real life.
acesilver1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Actual documentaries they will, but when was the last time they had that? You have to pay for premium channels, like History International or whatever else they call it now.
blsfan8497 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:18:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
See thats why I have trust issues. I knew something was up when Id be watching a documentary or program and I would be like "Idk if thats right" or "Thats bullshit" and have to look it up. Fact: Aliens did build the pyramids tho
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:20:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A university professor of mine was on a History (or maybe Discovery?) show about dinosaurs. They lied to her about the name of the show and the intent and guided her to try and get her to say what they wanted. The show was about dinosaur sex (she didn't know until it aired), and they really pushed for her to say the word penis.
Here she is. Yes, the show was called "Tyrannosaurus Sex".
Cueball61 ยท 179 points ยท Posted at 17:21:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Catfish is a semi-real. The production team call up everyone involved beforehand, do the research, etc as nobody wants to fly halfway across the US to a dead end.
Nev and Max aren't informed of any info the production team find though, they have to find it out themselves, so all their reactions are genuine.
I think once in a while the producers have swapped the catfish/hopefuls around, when they want a good story, but overall it's surprisingly unscripted.
imjohnk ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 18:34:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've always questioned this because there hasn't ever been an episode that I've watched where the catfish denied participating in the show whereas it would be kinda understandable. It makes sense though.
Cueball61 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:39:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They could totally still drop out. If they have cold feet suddenly they're well within their right to just not show
imjohnk ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:45:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah of course but then the production will still push it. There has been an episode where someone didn't show up and the day after he apologized and he would come to the "confrontration". I think the production definitely called him a few times.
underwatersmoking ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 02:26:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not a big fan of reality shows, but I actually really enjoy Catfish. I always appreciated how raw and intimate it is. It's also not super-exploitive, and they even professionally address serious issues like depression, lgbqt, and self-harm. Knowing that it's mostly unscripted makes it better. Thanks for sharing!
NoSuddenMoves ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 03:06:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Catfish actually starts with producers looking for people "who want to come clean with someone they know online" as MTV doesn't do "ambush tv". They start with the catfish and work backwards, sometimes making online evidence themselves. Max and Nev then read the email and make their investigation. The producers know exactly what is happening while Max and Nev are kept in the dark for realism purposes. It's not even a fact they try to hide, producers have revealed it several times in interviews.
Yggsdrazl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:07 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
but what about the ones who aren't catfishing, and are who they say they are?
bellyTWOTHREE ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 23:59:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate catfish for thr sole reason they try to be filmakers and carry around a camera but have a full mtv crew filming them. Its like inception but full of people trying to be cool by internet stalking.
denteslactei ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 10:11:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why does Max film everything on his point and shoot!? They never use the footage but he's always there, acting like he needs to be filming.
Yggsdrazl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:38:12 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's a callback to the original Catfish documentary in a way.
Cricket-Jiminy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:49:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are the catfishers offered money to be on the show? I'm always surprised that they agree to meet. It seems so embarrassing.
MantiTebow ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:09:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No they get football scholarships to Notre Dame.
JMS1991 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:49:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Relevant username?
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:08:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read an article that said that more often than not, it's the catfishers that contact the show, because they want a clean conscience.
Yalnix ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:58:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love catfish. I always thought it was real because the stories are most of the time too boring to make up. What I mean is if they were scripted there would be more twists and exciting discoveries.
Nev and max are the best thing about that show though. They are pretty great together!
missartteacher ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:01:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good to know...it's an enjoyable show
FancyLlama ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:03:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whoa, this one surprised me the most. I really thought that show was completely fake and scripted. Very interesting!!
GoingBackToPartyCity ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:30:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This makes me happy.
vlgro ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:31:57 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always wondered what would happen if the "catfish" were to be a 13 year old kid, would their parent let them be filmed, etc. I guess this answers that. Love this show!
throwawayuk123456789 ยท 188 points ยท Posted at 18:49:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Throwaway for obvious reasons. I was on Love Island last year. It's a popular TV reality show in the UK, this year's is actually on at the moment. I guess people assume some is staged and rigged but you have NO idea how much. We were literally given scripts of arguments to have, things to say. You know when you see them having sex under the covers, not happening. We would have to imitate this 5-10 times each time and the producers would choose the most realistic one. There is whole parts of the 'villa' that you don't even see. Multiple camera rooms. Ever wondered how the islanders never clean but it always gets cleaned? There is literally cleaners, waiters etc in there the whole time. Only about 6 hours a day and night are filmed. There is a director there saying cut and everything. You know the ยฃ50,000 grand prize for the winner? Doesn't compare the ยฃ75,000 we got for being in the villa, regardless if we were there for 6 days or 6 weeks. When we got out we had meetings and I had over 600 brands queuing up to work with me. Now I'm a nobody and you wouldn't even recognise my name. Relationships aren't real, there is agreements that is 100% for show. Things are never how you seem. Also we are shown the episodes everyday, there is no 'will be cool to see what i look like on tv when i get out'. There is also outside contact, that is just bullshit. My jaw literally dropped on my 4th day when they showed us the show live on TV because of how different it was to reality.
FatTyrtaeus ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 23:50:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can believe love island is faked hugely, what I'm struggling with is the concept of the sort of person who would appear on there also being a redditor...
throwawayuk123456789 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 08:50:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wasn't actually a redditor at the time. What you seen on TV (if you watched) was 2% my personality and 98% what I had been told to say/do. I was broke and jumped at the chance to lie on my arse all summer and come out with enough money to pay my student debt and buy a house.
vonlowe ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:59:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't blame you to be honest!
obamasrapedungeon ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:50:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
redditors are widely known for their honesty and integrity
Ckyheidi ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:57:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read the paper the other day about the Sex scene being too racy to show just after 9pm... Now I know that it's probably fake, that is the reason why they showed it.
throwawayuk123456789 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:48:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Totally fake. To create the scene in question (think you mean one with Emma and Terry?) they will be fully clothed on the bottom, with a duvet between them and nothing sexual going on at all, literally her jumping on him up and down with thick blankets between them and a scene that will have been shot at least 5-6 times.
KIDmimi ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 10:17:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was sure it was fake. Olivia and Rykard looked so fake. Poor Zara if it was fake too because she's now lost her title for nothing
Spudhead1976 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:35:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cheers for your post. My wife - and okay, now me too - is obsessed with the show. I watched it a lot more casually last year, but can't get enough of 2016. (I think it's because Big Bro is so awful this year.)
Did you audition, or were you plucked?
throwawayuk123456789 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:02:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bit of both. Basically I applied via an online form and got a call about a week later saying to email them my social media and a video of me being an arrogant prick. They're words were 'produce a short 60 second video outlining what drama you would cause and how crazy your personality is, don't hide your arrogance'. A lot of people tried to be nice or funny but basically all they wanted was sexy, arrogant, self obsessed people. I honestly wasn't like this but just seen it as acting as I had done drama at GCSE and A Level. After the video then I got another call inviting me to one of their studios for a test photoshoot and was asked some test answers. I just tried to imitate an arrogant jackass and it worked pretty well. After all this there were about 45 of us who had been 'shortlisted' and they put all 45 of us in a room to see how we interacted. Because there was so many and you had to stand out you needed to cause drama to be noticed. For my drama one of the other's winked at me and I took the opportunity to go all physco on them and started arguing and screaming at them abut how they were objectifying me and everything. The producers freaking loved it and we both got in but the other person dropped out a week before we were supposed to go in. We were then ordered from 1 to whoever many was left and then brought in in that order, so there was a constant pool of people ready to go in. So the whole bit about meeting the new islanders is bullshit, we all met twice and had drinks together before each 'new islander comes in bit' is filmed.
shamelessnameless ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:37:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Question. How much does the pretend to be psycho stuff do in terms of affecting your personal life and are there any downsides from being on that type of show besides national humiliation for a few weeks and months afterwards?
throwawayuk123456789 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:51:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well it didn't affect my relationships with family and close friends as obviously they knew me so they could see that all the bullshit that came from my mouth wasn't actually me. Lost respect from a lot of people who didn't know me that well as they thought I was like the tv me. There is a lot of pro's, for example in nightclubs I'd be getting paid to promote, tons of free drinks, girls throwing themselves at me. When I came out there was positive and negative reactions on twitter for example, but after a few months people forgot my name, brands were no longer interested. I occasionally get recognised in a club or something which is flattering but no big deal. I still get a bunch of free shit from companies though because you get added to a PR database and that don't seem to realise that I'm like a Z list celeb now haha. Got about ยฃ400 of designer shit yesterday for PR purposes.
shamelessnameless ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:55:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
thats fascinating, i always wondered how like different contestants and reality stars from old years manage to do in terms of finances and comps afterwards. learned a lot. :)
obviously you have to keep your identity hidden but do you work in a public field now or completely different area?
throwawayuk123456789 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:01:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yeah can't say too much without risking burning my ass off but I don't work in pr/modelling etc like a lot of the others went on to do. Let's say I'm more behind the camera now rather than in front of it. The two most difficult parts were getting out of the villa, and when everything died down and I become a nobody again. Big reality shock.
shamelessnameless ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
well good luck to you on any future endeavours and stuff man! :)
and yes make sure to be careful about revealing too much info, as there are always ridiculous snoops around
throwawayuk123456789 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:08:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
thanks man :)
ibecharlie ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:33:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't honestly see someone who was on Love Island would be on Reddit, let alone with a throwaway account haha
throwawayuk123456789 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:46:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm on a throwaway because if it was found out who I was then my ass would be sued. I am NOTHING like how I appeared, we were told how to act, dress, what to say etc. There is literally 2% of my personality and 98% things I've been told to say and do.
mypurplefriend ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:59:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your description of the casting scene might make it obvious to the producers, though (the winking guy)
throwawayuk123456789 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:03:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It might do yeah, but it's unlikely they will see a comment on a random thread. Also the producer's that do the casting are different to the on show producers so they casting might not even remember it and I'm pretty sure it wasn't recorded for that part.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:55:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm trying to guess who you are, but the producers seem to edit everyone down to about a 65 IQ, so, I can't really figure it out. :)
throwawayuk123456789 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:42:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We had to sign non disclosures and a bunch of contracts agreeing not to expose anything we seen or heard. We were also given strict instructions to 'act like really really dumb'. Any intelligence shown would be edited out. People like to relate to the islanders and a large proportion are teenage girls.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:21:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I figured as much. Now I can enjoy the show with a clear conscience!
shamelessnameless ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:38:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Colour me shocked :o
throwawayuk123456789 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:41:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Big surprise lol.
gnarbone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Crazy to hear! I randomly just started watching the current season, and it seems so real. Although I did think all the "sex" scenes looked pretty fake.
throwawayuk123456789 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:44:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Totally fake, I haven't ever done porn but the closest thing I can describe it to is how porn is shot, there is a producer there screaming to do this and that, it's literally the most un-sexy thing in the world.
JohnnyClarkee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:04:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Were you able to talk to the others about the fakeness, when the cameras weren't rolling? Like, "That was a tough scene. What have you got to do tomorrow?" sort of stuff?
throwawayuk123456789 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 13:56:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah basically once the camera's stopped we were allowed to do whatever including say whatever we wanted. We would also plan things out like when I was told about an argument I had to have that night then myself and the person would plan it out, we were given most of the lines and the outcome but had to improvise some too.
Most of the time the camera's weren't rolling people would be on their own, either just lay sunbathing or on their phones though they couldn't go on social media for obvious reasons. It was kind of like lunch break at work where everyone would discuss the work for tomorrow etc.
JohnnyClarkee ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:59:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, cool. An AMA would be good.
throwawayuk123456789 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:00:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I will look into that. Will have to find a way to provide proof that won't identify me!
shamelessnameless ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:39:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was it fun, the acting?
throwawayuk123456789 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:43:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A bit, like after we filmed an argument and we were off camera we would laugh about it. We were all there for the money and others for fame too but it was a bit fun to argue and shout knowing millions of people would be seeing it. Kind of felt like I was in a movie at some points (sorry that is so cringe).
shamelessnameless ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:48:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
television movie of the year :p
haha nah its fine, i mean you got money out of it and it was something slightly unusual right. better than boredom :)
How did the prize money last afterwards? did you manage to use it to get work and things?
throwawayuk123456789 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 14:56:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't actually win so never got the ยฃ50,000 prize money but got ยฃ75,000 for appearing and about ยฃ30,000 for brand deals afterwards and maybe about ยฃ10,000 of free stuff and drinks. I used the money to move house (good deposit) and pay my student debt completely. Found work on about 25k a year. Sometimes kills me that I earned 4x in a single summer what I now make in a year.
shamelessnameless ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:59:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hey man you paid off your student debt, thats amazing in itself! i'm still sitting on about 30 k to pay and nothing in sight. :(
good on you for getting a good house with it too, so hard to get that first step on the home ownership ladder :)
throwawayuk123456789 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:03:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know, I had a couple of hundred in my bank account before going in, could hardly afford to eat but obviously thats not how they made it look. I would still be sitting with my student debt and no home ownership status without the show so I'm grateful and overall it was a great experience that I will never forget.
shamelessnameless ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:04:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
:)
shamelessnameless ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:35:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm truly saddened that the sex isn't real :(
throwawayuk123456789 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:40:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry to disappoint :( Along with the arguments and couples, it's probably the most fake part of the show.
shamelessnameless ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
:(
shamelessnameless ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:35:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also you're saying that everyone gets 75k for just showing up?
throwawayuk123456789 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:41:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only if they are on a episode that airs and stay for at least one recoupling.
Throat_Butter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:02:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jon?
throwawayuk123456789 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:05:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
nope
Throat_Butter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:08:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only joking man. Never watched it only one year when Steve-o was bizarrely on it. Yawn fest along with Big Brother and my SO loves them both.
throwawayuk123456789 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:13:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
no sweat man. just can't say too much because of the non disclosures. i wish i was jon though as he did well out of it with his career now.
chub-rub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:07:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about the relationships in the house? Do people actually form feelings for eachother? Or nah?
throwawayuk123456789 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:12:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Friendships can form but in terms of romance there was no real couples. Everyone treated it like a job, there is no romance at all. It's so unrealistic what they show anyway that I wonder how people do think it's real. Like most people will not become official after less than a week and kiss on the first date without a lot of alcohol. So to properly answer your question, friendships: sort of/yes, relationships: not at all.
Hildaspellman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Noooo! This so the most heartbreaking one on this thread.
chump3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:13:44 on July 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I find it hard to believe that someone on Love Island could spell and use grammar and punctuation correctly like you have...
xxwerdxx ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 19:17:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My aunt was on an old HGTV show called house swap. Basically, HGTV brings in 2 interior decorators and they go nuts for 24 hours on a single room in each other's house.
not 10 minutes into the episode and my aunt is arguing with the decorator because she wants to go all earthy (brown, orange, green, etc) and my aunt is just dead pan "no. She hates that." Inevitably, the decorator got her way and they decorated the room in the earthy colors. Come time for the big reveal and the neighbor HATES the colors.
[deleted] ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 20:18:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm sure it was like the show, Trading Spaces. I watched that show all the time. The very worst was when Doug and Heidi were the designers and they had two male gay couples do each others places. It was so so awful. One couple told the designers what they would like to see done more on the earthy side, comfy, cozy and I think the other couple wanted a more modern decor. When they did the reveal I was so shocked. The designers had done one place in all white. I mean, everything was white. There was no color whatsoever. The other couple's place was done in all black like a damned cave. It was the worst thing I have ever seen done. One of the guys in the 'white' place literally broke down and cried his heart out. He was so distraught he couldn't be consoled. So awful.
Heidi IMO was the worst designer I have ever seen. She did crap like cover walls with straw and make furniture out of cardboard plus line the walls with cardboard. Horrible.
Diarygirl ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 05:06:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it would've been fun to be on the show, but man, if I saw Doug or Hildi were the designers, I'd be terrified.
And there's also the flower room, the mosaic mural she did of herself, and the cabana with sand on the floor.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/briangalindo/the-5-most-wtf-room-makeovers-hildi-santo-tomas-did-on-tradi?utm_term=.jojoo5gZE#.dkrddYejr
ScrewThis1029 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:29:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The oasis beach room? WTF. In my house that would just turn into a massive cat bathroom.. I throw up at the thought of that being all over the floors.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:29:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Watching those two was like watching a train wreck. They were the worst. I liked the older gentleman and can't think of his name. He made a couple of mistakes but over all he was a good designer. I think his name is Frank. The other designers were good too. It was just Doug and Hildi. Yeah, those rooms she did from the link you provided are hideous. I would have totally flipped my shit if it was my house.
Diarygirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:45:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yes, I loved Frank!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:21:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He had some really good ideas. He also had at least one bad idea though that the home owner didn't like. It had something to do with giant red lips in her room.
JuicyWiggle ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:20:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or the one where Hildi made the upside down room....she hung all the furniture from the ceiling. There is no way I could do that to a friend/neighbors house. They even painted the room black...so I'm sure the couple had to start from scratch to put it back to something normal.
Video: http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/trading-spaces/videos/upside-down-room-reveal/
charlietango13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:00:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought I had seen every episode, but I didn't know that one. What a stupid idea.
tourmaline82 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:49:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Covering the walls with straw?! How the fuck are you supposed to clean that?
Man, memories of watching this with my mom are coming back now. We watched it to snark at the designers. I think a great deal of HGTV's audience does that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:33:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can't clean that and another person provided a link to some of Hildi's shit designs. https://www.buzzfeed.com/briangalindo/the-5-most-wtf-room-makeovers-hildi-santo-tomas-did-on-tradi?utm_term=.gq5qAX3r9#.ovywL3azA
neutron_stars ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:01:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And I think the couple with the straw room had a toddler, so now you have a room that's horrible that would take forever to fix and your kid's probably trying to eat it.
drzoltar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:28:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One ep of Trading Spaces season 2 was listed as being in Seattle. From a little investigative work I discovered it was really in Puyallup, WA about 10 mins from where I live. And boy were they not happy after the reveal.
They Hated the Fireplace
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:06:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh my god they painted the fireplace!!!! Noooooooooooo!!! Holy shit. I would have done more than cry. I would have had a fit.
drzoltar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:34 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, there's no coming back from that. What the hell was Doug thinking?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:36:11 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Doug was the male version of Hildi. The two of them did the most horrendous makeovers but she was the worst.
delmar42 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:04:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If she's the designer I'm thinking of from that show, there was one episode where she stapled fake pink/red flowers all over the walls. I think that 95% of her designs were just atrocious in my opinion.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:09:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes that's her. Hildi. Everything she has ever done was absolutely hideous. There was one episode where couples lived on a military base. I don't recall if Hildi was the designer but I'm guessing she was. One lady said she did not want anything military. She wanted the room to be warm and inviting with earthy colors. Guess what she got? Military. Everything was cold and gray and just horrible. The lady expressed her concerns about it too.
Ciscokid60 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember that episode. Two of the ugliest rooms on the whole show.
Angling43 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:22:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh gawd I forgot about that show!!!
ThrowinderSingh ยท 3304 points ยท Posted at 14:41:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went in for an audition and there was just a black leather sofa in the room.
drogean2 ยท 210 points ยท Posted at 17:19:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
A white couch if you're Czech
TheCatcherOfThePie ยท 388 points ยท Posted at 18:10:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah, if they're Czech they just get a "random guy" off the street
[deleted] ยท 84 points ยท Posted at 19:22:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
five sausend evro, come on
MyChicago ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 22:05:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's, "never done this before" apparently
Mr_Wasteed ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:34:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So it begins the Hamster Chronicles.
thefablemuncher ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 02:43:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know, Czechhunter does a pretty good job of feeling like it's real. It's the exact same formula in every episode but I still enjoy watching it.
The only thing that breaks the immersion is when the "random guy" finally gets nude and he has a huge hard on. Yeah, I'm sure you don't want to do this.
Yardsale420 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:31:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why do those Czech girls never take the money first?
AzraelMC ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:39:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I met a guy in Krakow who was once pulled off the street in Prague to have sex with a random girl. When asked why he went along, he just said "she was hot".
Entropy- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:17:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's so Czechy
Lyude ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:49:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are we really talking about what I think we're talking?
fokjoudoos ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kinda like a Czech...mate?
I'll see myself out, sorry..
Ebbboorsma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:34:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then they ship him off to get pressed.
anroroco ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:16:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought czech would pretend to pay a random woman to have sex with him.
GangreneMeltedPeins ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:25:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey its me your random guy
RudBoy1018 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:29:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Czech street had some pretty good ladies
ultrab0ii ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shout out to Abigaile Johnson! Didn't know she was Czech until a few days ago lol
shamelessnameless ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:39:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Link to those casting calls please
Pigeon_Poop ยท 492 points ยท Posted at 15:02:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Go on...
Black_Gotenks ยท 633 points ยท Posted at 15:21:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can find the rest on RedTube.
Klove128 ยท 1743 points ยท Posted at 16:28:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But I don't have a YouTube red subscription
Vacster ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 20:07:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh wow, I never noticed this lmao
bcassalino ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 16:44:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, there's always PornHub when you need 'em.
GridSquid ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:32:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I want people to start hosting Youtube Red content on PornHub
jakejakekk ยท -43 points ยท Posted at 17:47:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Purple CornHub? Eww
ANUSTART942 ยท 48 points ยท Posted at 22:12:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This probably sounded funny in your head, right?
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 22:41:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And your name sounded funny when I said it out loud!
plexomaniac ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:49:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Come to my home, I have a black leather sofa and we can watch YouTube Red together.
Klove128 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sweet! On my way!
ixijimixi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:14:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Come to my home. We can watch Redtube and chill
oaka23 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:35:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
does anyone?
UndeadVette ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:13:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I do. It's actually a pretty good music service.
FaTALiNFeRN0 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:32:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
... Should we tell him?
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:28:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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DinoRawr9000 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 18:15:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No no no, if you want to do a proper laugh you should lick your thumb and rub it up and down on a window pane.
ThunderChaser ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:09:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jajajajajajaja
Klove128 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:42:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
K
StrongJoshua ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:37:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So meta
BigHungry70 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 20:10:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We call that RedTube.
gangsta_baby ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:52:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then my mom walked in and sat down beside me
wbmason ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)โ
maximus9966 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 16:40:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How badly did you need the money at the time?
Suixle ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:40:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm saddened by the fact that I got this reference
yanni99 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:31:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it fake? Cause if it is he really had me believing that it was real and that it was really easy to make a girl do anal.
It would be the worst thing that happens to my internet fantasies since I learned Heather Brooks has retired.
MugaSofer ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:01:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I bloody well hope it's fake, otherwise they're scamming all those girls and should be arrested. (And presumably would have been by now.)
Sure, it's "easy to make a girl do anal" if she's a sex worker who thinks you're paying her.
Belgand ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:13:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about learning that Heather Brooke never even existed?
Smark_Henry ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:33:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Funny enough, her name wasn't even Heather Brooke, it was Heather Harmon. People got confused because she brought in her friend Brooke for several videos and back in the days of Kazaa there were names like "HEATHER BROOKE BLOWJOB HOT PORNO SEX XXX [1].wmv" so the two names got thought of as one. iDeepThroat ended because she divorced her husband which she did it with, IIRC. And honestly, if the iDeepThroat couple can't make it then what hope do any of us have?
Belgand ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:15:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good thing I brought my step-mother along to the audition with me.
Nirbhana ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:02:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sala panchod, was the sofa clean though?
ThrowinderSingh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:21:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Clean like theri maa dhi pudhi!
FalseFactsOrg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:10:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Love the username
ThrowinderSingh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:46:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hahaha thanks! Puuunjaaabiiii
KillTheKinderPS3 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:18:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You can probably find your audition tapes at punishtube.
akesh45 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:15:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So how long did you work with them?
The-Fox-Says ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Please don't tell me my favorite show isn't real...
groggboy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was it a pain in the ass?
mr_blanket ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:00:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"How do you think you did?"
Blaaa5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:02:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd hate to break it to you but there's no job
[deleted] ยท -35 points ยท Posted at 15:26:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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BrutusHawke ยท 41 points ยท Posted at 15:39:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thats the joke
[deleted] ยท -17 points ยท Posted at 19:50:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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BrutusHawke ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:01:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The subtlety of his comment was what made it funny. You ruined it
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:18:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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SomeRandomUserGuy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:59:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's summertime :(
Brandy_Alexander ยท 128 points ยท Posted at 17:54:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My family runs a bunch of storage facilities in Southern California, which is where they film the majority of shows like Storage Wars and Auction Hunters. The first year or so it was all real, but then we were getting 50-100 people showing up at all our auctions to try and be on tv. Auctions on storage units in Cali have to be publicly announced in the paper a week or so before the auction happens, so people would see that and know when and where to go. It became such a freaking disaster (and people bidding hundreds of dollars on units where there was nothing in them) that it became a problem for the people running the shows, too. They ended up having to stage the auctions and "hiding" expensive antiques in the units. If you look at the background folk in a lot of the auctions it's often the same people, aka me and some of my family members, other storage staff members, and friends of people who worked on the show.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:48:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Brandy_Alexander ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:36:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hmmm... I'm honestly not sure. Having been to several storage conventions (yes, they are a thing lol) there are literally thousands of facilities just in SoCal alone. In western states where houses aren't often built with basements, storage is really needed. I know one of our facilities is located next to 3 other storage sites all less than .5 miles away, none of which are affiliated.
jpropaganda ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:31:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup! You can see me bidding on an auction in an episode of Auction Hunters. If I had hundreds of dollars for that unit, why would I have needed that $50 appearance fee?
Geawiel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:37:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My brother manages a storage unit in western Wa. He said that the amount of people they have show up for auctions went up drastically when Storage Wars started to air. They still get a lot more people then before, but the amount died down a bit.
Brandy_Alexander ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:43:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep, it definitely has. Maybe it's because people realized 99.9% of the time a unit is filled with garbage, clothing from the 80's and the occasional dead animal.
steiner_math ยท 95 points ยท Posted at 17:59:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not a reality show per se, but my sister's friend was on Jerry Springer.
She got on by being friends with a producer, but it was 100% scripted. The story was fake. Her boyfriend was on the show with her, but he was supposedly cheating on her with a woman he'd never met. They told them to act like he really cheated and he had to try to justify it.
emmadobad ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 22:51:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My dad has a friend who regularly appeared on shows like Jerry springer. She was on multiple episodes and similar series wearing different wigs.
MrAronymous ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:47:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's hilarious.
jaymobe07 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 18:19:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Know someone that was also on the show. Can confirm, purely scripted.
theotherkeith ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:40:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bull. You mean this was not real? https://youtu.be/VxYYjCQlPZE
mfg_colour ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:09:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
oddly enough that one actually happened
eromitlab ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:01:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Back when they were still taping the show in Chicago, I flew back to Nashville on a Southwest flight with a few Springer guests. Only knew because they were carrying their pay envelopes from the show. Also, their carry-on luggage? Black garbage bags.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:12:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It hasn't been real since the 90s...maybe not even then.
Here's an example of what I mean: Cafe Erotica in a small town in Georgia. While there was a controversy at the time, I think some of the "housewives" protesting might have been actors.
BTW, Cafe Erotica and its 'sister' restaurants all went out of business in the 00s.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:50:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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steiner_math ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:26:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have no idea, but they definitely told their friends it was fake (and the backstory didn't really add up if you knew them)
SunshinePumpkin ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:25:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went to a filming years ago. I was shocked at how fake it was. Jerry would say they'd be right back after the commercial, walk back stage, the people on stage who'd just been fighting just sat there twiddling their thumbs until he came back.
RazeCrusher ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:03:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My experience: When I was a teenager, a couple of friends and myself decided to see what would happen if we called up the "Be on the show" phone number at the end of the show. We did, and made up this completely ridiculous and stupid story off the top of our heads. The only reaction was "That sounds great! We'll take your info, pay for you to travel, etc. to get you on the show!" where I'm sure they would have expanded on everything we just made up with what they make up.
Never followed through though, it was more of an experiment for laughs.
vogonicpoet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:48:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thought you were making a reference to South Park until the end/
Ondreyko ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:34:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Boyfriend's ex was on there with her friends. The story was all fake, but then she whined and cried about how people judged her for being on the show. It's like, fucking duh you knew what was gonna happen.
vogonicpoet ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:48:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How much do people get paid to be on that show?
Myfourcats1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:44:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know someone that was a producer on Jerry Springer. She said they would often be scrambling to find guests to be on the show and would just come up with some topic all at the last minute. It could be an hour before the filming and they may not have someone.
jenphu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aw I used to love watching that show with my grandma haha
YourCannibalQueen ยท 263 points ยท Posted at 17:01:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I edit reality TV, and the best/most creative part of the job is figuring out a way to make something that didn't happen look like it happened.
[deleted] ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 20:03:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Edit fast cuts with intense music before a cut to commercial. After commercial it's no big deal
nachogeek ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:36:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Could you elaborate
YourCannibalQueen ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 21:02:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OK, see the story producers have set character archetypes and their storylines/actions should reinforce that. So I'll get notes on scenes like I don't think Bob should have found that thing. Make it look like Joe found it instead, and instead of them being in the attic, can it be that they found it in the basement the day before? Oh, and if it could be snowing that would be cool.
Rpgwaiter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:11:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you ever feel shitty for blatantly misleading and lying to people like that?
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 00:14:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's TV. What he's doing is no different from an editor cutting a scripted show. At this point I think it's safe to assume most people know reality TV should be taken with a grain of salt nowadays anyway.
Rpgwaiter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:17:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't until this thread tbh. But to be fair, I do the exact same thing, just on YouTube. But I do have moments of regret here and there.
YourCannibalQueen ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:15:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No
Rpgwaiter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:39:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good deal.
Brickwater ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:50:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought it would be a fun challenge to be an editor on a reality show. The whole story is in your hands in a way other genres aren't.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They don't think it be like it is, but it do
squirrelbait_64 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:24:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I also edit reality TV. Hi. I feel your pain. Good luck at your next screening.
imeuru ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:04:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was just on two episodes of a reality show on a major network, and this was the sequence of my shots that ended up airing: Butt shot, back of the head shot, stumbling around like a weirdo shot, weird profile shot with a double chin, butt shot, butt shot, hand shot, butt shot, quirky face shot, me standing around like a weirdo, realizing im being filmed then slowly backing away shot, hand shot.
At least I got money for it.
suzepie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you watch UNReal? If so, how accurate do you think it is in its portrayal of the reality show production process?
invinible ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:51:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And this is the reason I don't watch things labeled as Reality T.V.
If I'm going to watch Reality T.V. than I want to see things as they really occurred rather than what is essentially a T.V. show most networks would have rightfully straight up rejected without the Reality T.V. label.
In fact, it is because of guys like you that we ended up with the saying: "It isn't Reality T.V. It is Actuality." to let viewers know we aren't dealing with your nonsense.
YourCannibalQueen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:00:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All story-telling is crafted; even the news! History books have bias too. Everything paid for to be made has someone with a reason why they made it. You should question everything around you with such vigor because you will grow up to see that we are all pawns for someone making money.
invinible ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:06:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is because of that crafted design that I also don't usually check out news and history as I want real news and history rather than the bullshit.
thnderbolt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:37:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Come on, they are doing their job that puts food on the table. Better stick to documentaries for more 'real' viewing pleasure. Even though there's also a story in them the best ones IMO are the ones portraying the subject in a neutral light.
I probably couldn't watch US tv news for a second because of their commercial bias. Thats why public broadcasting is a thing in Europe, it's somewhat neutral since its funded by taxpayers.
imjohnk ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 15:11:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of my friend was on a Dutch show called Barbie & Michael where they visited her hair salon. Before they actually came, producers came in to check everything out, make sure all the advertisement were removed and they were told how to react etc. It wasn't completely staged but it looked so fake that Barbie & Michael "spontaneously" came in like they were just visiting. In reality it was already planned that they would go there and the camera team was already inside. I think this counts for many reality shows though.
IshKebab ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:10:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yeah the classic shot of the front door opening from inside the house.
imjohnk ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:13:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah it's so dumb when TV shows make it seem like it's so unexpected when in reality the camera guy is already inside. Like seriously?
pizzahut91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe they tell them they're there for an interview but surprise! It's actually the hosts of the show visiting
Danilolc ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:35:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Barbie and Michael is the definition of Dutch TV in its prime, such a great show.
imjohnk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hope you aren't serious haha.
Danilolc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:18:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most definitely not, but it's nice seeing some dumb people every once in a while
imjohnk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:21:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I agree.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, yeah, how could they get shots inside a house if someone was just showing up spontaneously?
crew1991 ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 17:35:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I auditioned for American Idol at Gillette Stadium a few years ago. Not sure if it qualifies as rigged, but there are a handful of stages before anyone sees the "Judges". These stages are judged by producers who often don't even listen to the person singing.
Two kinds of people make it though, the people who dress up like idiots, and the people who are lucky enough to have the producers actually listen to them singing.
jaardreign ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:27:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was expecting "the people who dress like idiots" and "the people who are hot."
jillyszabo ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:49:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's American Idol or the Voice, but my friend's stepmom is a vocal coach and said that the only people who audition on TV are pre-selected through their vocal coach and if you aren't one of them you can still audition, it's just highly unlikely you'll be chosen.
brenton07 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:54:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The way it works is you have two sets of auditions, the auditions with just producer types where they weed out who will make good tv and who won't, film all of the lines, etc.
The you have a shoot day with the television judges where the cast (which is predetermined at that point) come in, skip the lines, and they shoot the tv sequences with the people who "made the cut". Film the crazies, and that's a wrap.
There's a few surprises here and there, but for the most part the people standing in line are just there to make it really feel like everyone has a shot and for good television, when in reality the competitors were cast months before hand.
Hdirjcnehduek ยท 164 points ยท Posted at 18:52:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mythbusters always claimed that their experiments are real and that the hosts wrote their own dialogue. But beyond that it's staged for TV. In the "tastes like chicken" episode they go to a butcher shop in SF to buy a bunch of exotic meat. Well fuck me, I want to eat that meat too so I go there to buy some. When I get there the meat is totally ordinary and they have no idea why I'm asking about the rare meats. Then I tell them I saw them sell the meat on mythbusters and they said, oh yeah that was staged they brought in their own meat to film that.
Tl;dr Mythbusters not 100% real.
imminent_buttstorm ยท 95 points ยท Posted at 20:46:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Myth: Busted!
Hingl_McCringleberry ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 21:01:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd call your comment plausible
Nukatha ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 23:15:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
paging /u/mistersavage
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ConradBHart42 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 02:39:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why do they need to show meat acquisition in the age of the internet? "we spent five minutes googling and then ordering the meats we wanted in the quantity we wanted". Why is a trip to the butcher shop gripping television?
angry_badger32 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 02:14:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As long as the experiments are real, I'm content.
Jillthedillpickill ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:18:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Alright but alligator tastes like chicken that was kept next to catfish in the fridge. If you were wondering.
greyjackal ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:44:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Alligator tastes like whatever it last ate.
Which is why it usually tastes awful
Shoopdawoop9001 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:51:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How to have Alligator tasting like cake in 3 easy steps Step 1: Aquire Alligator. Step 2: Feed Alligator Cake until it dies. Step 3: Eat Aliigator.
greyjackal ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:01:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Need one feckin' large cake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXn1g0xtUMk
shavedanddangerous ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:14:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So like a 2 year old child then?
IAmTrident ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:17:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Add a few years and it worked for Dahmer.
squigs ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:37:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's also obvious that a lot of the discussion about the myth and how they're going to approach it is scripted. But I guess that's fair enough. The real discussion is probably a lot of internal emails and researchers reading the forums.
SequenceofLetters ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well this is disappointing. All the good shit is still real though so it's okay.
grawsby ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:11:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always wondered how much they did, and how much they'd start for the camera then walk away and let someone else do.
RiverRatRambler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:37:46 on July 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't ask butchers have"rare" meat
Blaaa5 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:21:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The last time this was posted someone said that they went to the filming to the ep where they test to see if hair color or whatever makes more tips and before you can enter the cafe you have to sign waivers that says it's okay to film you
craneguy ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:57:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ever see someone on TV with a blurred face? They didn't sign the release...
autumnx ยท 126 points ยท Posted at 16:20:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I realized "My Crazy Ex" has actors playing actors playing actors, I had to stop watching it.
Who am I kidding? It's still entertaining.
you_owe_me ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:03:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I recently had a friend appear as an actor in one of the episodes. I assumed it wasn't a very large budget show but I was surprised when she was driving her personal car and wore all of her own personal clothes in the episode. I don't know how typical that is but it surprised me.
autumnx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:05:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's still going? I only see reruns.
you_owe_me ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Her episode came out earlier this year and it looks like they are still coming out with episodes this summer. Since we now know the budget is essentially nil for the show hopefully you get years of new episodes.
pudgelad ยท 546 points ยท Posted at 15:17:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My favorite reality show Big Brother is under scrutiny constantly for being "rigged or "manipulated", but many people who say they know producers ask them what is real and what is not, and as it turns out, BB is one of the most un-riggable shows there are outside of competitions. The fact that fans watch live-feeds 24/7 and have the ability to go back and watch means that producers have to be SUPER careful if they even want to attempt to manipulate contestants. But that doesn't say they don't feed lines to HGs in the diary room, or they are purposefully only putting certain people's chips in the "randomized" bag for competitions, and rigging competitions entirely.
EDIT: Although I have not been on this show, I have watched for YEARS and have done tons of research into it. I would love to be on the show one day!
kah43 ยท 177 points ยท Posted at 15:41:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think there are different rules for shows like Big Brother and Survivor and such that are more of a game show than stuff you see on the other channels. I am pretty sure if money is involved as a prize then they have to be a lot more above board about things like having events and comps planned out in advance and such.
imjohnk ยท 226 points ยท Posted at 15:59:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Survivor is as real as a reality show can get. A camera guy of Survivor did an AMA about it and it all seemed legit, except that conversations had to be staged when it didn't got caught on camera (as far as I remember) but that isn't that big of a surprise.
Edit: Here is the AMA for anyone interested.
KorgDTR2000 ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 21:50:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
The most convincing evidence for Survivor's legitimacy is in the physical transformations players make.
Case in point, Russell Hantz. He played two seasons back to back, which were filmed only two weeks apart, and he went the full 39 days both times. It did a number on him.
The interesting thing about Survivor is that producers legally can't rig it, as it's a competition. However, they can influence the outcome of the game by catering challenges to different players' strengths and introducing twists but even then the outcome is out of their control and it can backfire, as the players ultimately control the game through the democratic rules.
imjohnk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:25:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah we have this show in The Netherlands as well and I've watched every season and it's definitely worth it.
tjgamir ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 20:21:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If people want to see how real Survivor is, just watch the Samoa episode where Russell Swan was medically evacuated or the latest season's (Kaoh Rong) fourth episode. Russell Swan's evacuation as Probst once said was the scariest moment he has ever encountered while doing Survivor, only to be tied/beaten by the other episode I just mentioned.
By the way, Kaoh Rong has Scot Pollard and Big Brother's Caleb 'Beast Mode Cowboy' Reynolds if people are interested to watch.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:44:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Serenity101 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:22:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hope the producers never make this mistake again. It was horrifying and heart-wrenching to watch. I was so emotional I cried through the whole thing.
AfraidOfLeaves ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:16:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What exactly was their mistake?
lozzern ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:30:51 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Essentially setting up a really gruelling challenge in such insane heat without monitoring and predicting what could happen.
They set up a challenge that involved digging a path under a log and squeezing everyone through it, then racing to a giant sand pit to dig for bags of balls for the next part of the challenge. They were in extreme heat and sun and were digging for up to an hour. You could tell they were all getting exhausted and there's huge potential for heat stroke even if you're healthy and not exerting yourself, yet they were all low energy in the first place.
It's been said that the producers could have called for a pause and given everyone a break in the shade with some water to cool down, without showing it on TV. Give everyone the same chance and avoid something like this occurring.
ianmalcolminthemiddl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:55:20 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is your username a reference to Cirie?
AfraidOfLeaves ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:23:44 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Always and forever <3
Waniou ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:21:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't suppose you'd mind elaborating on what happened on those two events?
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:43:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
The first mentioned event a contestant mid challenge passed out. Out completely cold. Eyes rolled back in his head. He came to briefly and it happened again. No heart rate for a decent chunk of time as well iF I recall correctly.
The second, fairly simple challenge - don't want to give away too much about who or what but three people suffered severe heat exhaustion. It's the only time survivor has broken the fourth wall so to speak - dozens of crew out there helping the contestants, the medical team legitimately scared someone was gong to die. Helicopter medevac.
There have been others of course - season 2 mike skupin falling in the fire, broken arms, severe infections, bugs crawling into people's ears.
TheJmaster7x ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 06:04:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Everyone is essential personnel!"
For that to happen it takes something serious. Afterwards the flood of people rushing to help was worrying. The moments where Survivor becomes very real are some of the scariest moments on TV.
misskass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:14:14 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh god I was thinking about the bug in the ear again just yesterday. What a horrible nightmare. To be able to hear it in there and have it hurting her and biting her... argh, it made me so uncomfortable to watch.
tjgamir ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:48:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not good with storytelling so here's a writeup from an article about Russell Swan:
As to the Kaoh Rong episode, three players from each tribe suffered from heat stroke after finishing the challenge. Two of them recovered fast as they only needed shade and water to lower their body temperature, while the other one had to be medically evacuated because his condition was getting worse that he had to be covered in ice, hooked to an IV, and needed an oxygen mask to breathe. There were around 100 production team members visible on tv catering to the needs of the castaways.
1, 2
Forgot about the Skupin fire accident way back in 2001, in the second season of the show. Mike Skupin fell into the fire while attending to it, had to be evacuated and brought to the nearest hospital thru a helicopter.
SleestakJack ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:41:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The entire season of Kaoh Rong was absolutely brutal. More total medevacs than any other season. Some of the infected wounds that people were walking around with looked absolutely miserable.
I haven't read it confirmed anywhere, but it definitely seemed like there were some challenges later in the season that were easier than normal, with less-elaborate setups. Almost like at the last minute they looked at some challenges and said "Nah... let's not do this challenge. People are going to die."
hookyboysb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:34:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Caleb (the one who got med-evac'd) was so dehydrated that his body was pulling water from his muscles. If he wasn't so muscular, he would have died. Someone the size of Tai would have died in his situation.
I don't watch Survivor (I want to, but I want to watch BB2-15 first) but I did watch that clip. It was probably one of the most emotional things I have ever watched.
mcakez ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Caleb was using steroids and water-weight fasting in the months before Survivor. Is it possible that played into it? (I know there has to be a name for when you intentionally dehydrate yourself, but I will be damned if I can come up with it.)
blaghart ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:25:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You forgot the one episode where a guy passed out from smoke inhalation...directly into a fire...and then proceeded to run into the nearby water source to put himself out.
That one was from one of the first seasons, completely insane.
Kiddler ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:47:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
it also has Debbie!
tjgamir ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 04:39:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah yes the
part time model,chemist,laser technician,USAF Civil Air Patrol Captain,manufacturing supervisor,former FBI agent,caretaker of nuns, actress from The Bold and the Beautiful.[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Alone is the true survivor.
PopsicleIncorporated ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 18:12:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Survivor had a few controversies about the first season. But they really got their act together after that, and it's still going strong into S33, even if it's gotten a bit gimmicky.
stickmanDave ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 22:06:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Yeah, they'll pull some editing tricks, but nothing that overtly favors any one player. There's too much money on the line; past players have filed lawsuits when they felt the producers were unfairly influencing the game.
They'll do things like:
Competitors are transported to challenges in motor boats or cars. They'll film everybody getting into their canoes to "paddle off to the challenge", only to have them turn around, beach their canoes, and get into the trucks.
They may be asked to re-enact key strategic moments (such as finding an immunity idol) if the cameras missed it, but but they are never asked to do retakes of conversations, or told what to say.
producers may ask leading questions in private confessionals, but contestants are never prompted with what to reply. that said, the contestants know very well what the producers want to hear, and may give it to them to increase their screentime. This is often used to increase dramatic tension and suspense going into tribal council, even where every tribe member knows perfectly well who's going to be voted out.
Much is done to preserve the fiction that the two tribes are all alone in the middle of nowhere. In reality, there are cameramen and crew all over the place, and their camps may only be a quarter mile from a road. The "wilderness" they're stranded in may be a fairly small, explicitly roped off area they are not allowed to leave.
None of this is a secret; cast members freely talk about it after their shows have aired. They all confirm that the starvation, the elements, and the hardship are all very, very real.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:38:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually think the body double is more so that 100s of cameras and crew aren't in the helicopter shot - but everything you said is correct.
stickmanDave ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:27:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol, yeah you're probably right.
rose-voss ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They've also been known to edit scenes that were filmed before or after a merge/tribe swap and change the buff colors
productivebunny ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:54:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
33 seasons. Wow, that's crazy.
PopsicleIncorporated ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:19:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're telling me. I love it, but it's crazy how it just keeps going.
I think it costs something like $20 million per season. It regularly wins its timeslot, too, so it's very much still a goldmine.
rabboni ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 23:17:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just never get tired of it. This past season was brutal too. Multiple medivacs (and even the folks who didn't get an evac dealt with some nasty stuff.
The show barely focuses on the "survival" part anymore, but the little they do is just so compelling
hewhoreddits6 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:36:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What are some good, "classic" survivor seasons you might recommend watching? I hear tons of good stuff about the show since I used to be a big fan of The Amazing Race, but never actually started it.
rabboni ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 05:30:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Classic?
Pearl Islands is a favorite among just about everyone. Wildly entertaining with great characters.
Season 1 is a fun watch just to see the game before everyone followed a somewhat similar pattern.
Season 2 had the first real "hero" and is another fan favorite
Season 3 was brutal from a survival standpoint and had some of the best rewards
Season 4-5 were down seasons in my opinion. 5 especially just wasn't fun.
Season 6 was a big bounceback. Some fun cast members and hilarious moments
Season 8 was an all-star season and was definitely interesting from a gameplay standpoint. Some heated moments, etc.
Season 9 - Wow. I'd love to spoil this for you, but I won't. Season 9 and 10 are two of my favorite seasons (though a LOT of people hate 10).
Season 12 was the first season I watched (then I went back and saw the others). I had a friend on that season and it got me hooked following his game. Some great immunity battles in this season and Bobdog (not the guy I know) was a great character!
Season 15 is probably second to Pearl Islands in terms of non-returning player seasons. Absolutely fantastic cast with a beautiful location and great challenges. A perfect season.
Season 18 is another one that really nailed it with characters. Gotta watch for Tyson but Coach is one of the biggest personalities to ever play.
Season 19 was notorious for having a new level of villain. One that would eventually become hated, but I honestly kind of liked him this season. Two or three other good cast members but in all honesty kind of a meh season otherwise
Season 20 was Heroes vs Villains. It was an amazing idea for a season and paid off well.
That's about all the "classic" seasons. I wish I could watch them all again for the first time! Enjoy
hewhoreddits6 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:02:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OMG thank you for the long list! I really appreciate that you took the time to write out a description/overview for each season, and I'm definitely going to check these out!
Yugisan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:48:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You sure about that? From what I've seen Palau is pretty universally beloved.
jlim201 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:10:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, its pretty loved, its quite a different season.
rabboni ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:34:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good. It should be.
jacare37 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:03:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Who was your friend from S12?
jlim201 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:09:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Season 4 is a strategic gamechanger. Its a pretty good season, and should be watched. Its not as good as the first 3, but still excellent TV. 5 is definitely skippable.
ChildofKnight ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:59:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Check out this thread. https://www.reddit.com/r/survivor/comments/4kzd4g/the_fifth_biannual_rsurvivor_which_seasons_should/
CynicalWaffles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:49:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Season 7 is Pearl Islands, and it is regarded as one of the best and a classic. Season 28: Cagayan, is not a classic as it is only 2 or 3 years old, however it truly is great. It will leave you on the edge of your seat, and it is one of the most interesting casts I've ever seen.
hewhoreddits6 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:56:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Got it, season 7. Thanks for the recommendation!
SleestakJack ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:50:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Season before last... season 31 (Cambodia/Second Chance) was INCREDIBLE.
All of the players were out there for their second time. The producers hand-picked 32 previous players who were interested in returning, and they held a poll among the fans to choose 20 out of those 32 to actually be on the show.
Because they were all returning players, they were all on their game from the first moment.
hewhoreddits6 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:57:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
An all-star round? That seems like it wouldn't be a great starting point since I wouldn't know anyone beforehand. I know it's still watchable, since I was an avid fan of The Amazing Race and they also had all-star seasons, but those seasons are soooo much cooler when you already know the background stories and have seen the people before.
SleestakJack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:55:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really don't think you would need to know anything about the players beforehand. The contestants themselves talk about having played before, but there isn't really anything about the enjoyment of watching that's keyed off of already knowing them.
hewhoreddits6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:58:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every reality show is different. I liked the Amazing race All-star rounds because I knew the people beforehand, but maybe it isn't as big of a deal in Survivor. Thanks though!
jlim201 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:11:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, not a great starting point, and it very much gives you the wrong idea of Survivor. Start with earlier seasons, and then move forward, don't have to watch every season (5, 8, 19, 22, 23, 24, 26 are skippable seasons personally). 8, 11, 16, 22, 23, 25, 26, 27, 31 have returnees.
hewhoreddits6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:54:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, that's a lot of returnee seasons. This is a good list. I thank you for this list!
jlim201 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Only 8, 20, 31 are full returnees, 16, 26, 27 have half, and the rest all have one per tribe.
MrUnderdawg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:27:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. Ever since season 20 or so there has always been a "theme" and has gotten a little bit gimmicky, but the themes usually fade out a few episodes in. This upcoming seasons (Season 33) is called Millennials vs Gen X, and people don't really care because they know CBS will do away with the tribes and swap them out.
EightsOfClubs ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:56:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, as I recall - while it looks very rigged, most of Survivor is genuine.
There are things you don't see, of course - like supplying tampons and sunscreen, but the people are actually out there and actually competing.
cymblue ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:36:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about it looks rigged? It looks very real to me
voltar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:25:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably because it's heavily edited. It kind of gives it a feeling of not being completely genuine, like your average reality show or something. That's my guess.
Draskuul ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:50:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, from what I understand there is an area near the camp where every survivor has a 'stash' of items like these, including stuff like meds they need to take, contacts (notice some switch off and on glasses occasionally). I'm sure it includes some stuff like condoms as well--better safe than sorry.
jack9lemmon ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:10:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They do provide condoms. Probst has said they don't want Survivor babies being conceived on the island.
Sasplen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:34:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you by chance have the link for this AMA?
imjohnk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:48:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There you go.
Sasplen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:08:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you!! I can never find things.
imjohnk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:09:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah usually I just like that I can click the link immediately but no problem haha.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:44:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I also recommend the contestant AMAs on the survivor subreddit /r/survivor shout out!
ratt_man ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:17:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was a production assistant and survivor Australia and from what I saw there was no rigging.
A few things of note the challenges are run once as real competition but a few hours of additional filming is done to get closeups and different angles most of the time
Contestants get regular medical / mental assessments and supplimental feeding, they dont want a contestants to leave or be sued so they get regular medical assessments normally in eviction day filming. Also due to filming crew taking time and energy so they suppilmented with food and water
imjohnk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah but that's logical for anyone who thinks for a bit. It would be weird if women just had to deal with it if they were on their period. Getting the good shots isn't rigging at all because obviously they have to shoot good shoots to make the show better.
Slythagoras ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd counter that and say "Bear Grylls The Island" is even more crazy than survivor. Only watched the UK one though, couldn't comment on the US version
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:16:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You do know that everything he has done is fake right? His survival Man vs Wild show was outed not long ago, and the man has yet to recover.
shrike3000 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 04:22:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You do know he is barely in "Bear Grylls: The Island" right? He is basically just the narrator.
-Mr-Jack- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:56:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same with shows like Mantracker.
The competition is done separate from most of the filmed stuff, which is later staged to get different angles from what the scattered crew caught and looked good but wanted better angles.
It was either on here on somewhere or on a forum for the show that this was laid out.
ShireCantHandleMe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Link please?
imjohnk ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:55:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is a link.
WorldsGreatestPoop ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Amazing Race is completely real, there is very little in the sense of Frankenclips and when they do it's only because a real event wasn't caught right. It's not a show that needs too much in the way of manufactured animosity or conflict but the dialog can sometimes be coaxed out in leading ways. It really is more of a season long game show than a reality show. Even Jeopardy is edited down to make it seem like questions are answered quicker.
julesburne ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:45:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, that was pretty interesting to read. He described a medical tent for people who need daily medication - I wonder if survivor would accept a type 1 diabetic after reading that? Probably not - it'd be super terrible and I (type 1 diabetic) wouldn't want to do it, but I'd absolutely watch that. I remember fantasizing that my luxury item would be my insulin pump or test kit when I was in middle school and season one premiered. There are even better blood glucose monitoring options now, like the Freestyle Libre (not available in the US yet :-/) that would make a competition like Survivor more doable if a pump was allowed.
There are just so many things - certain jobs, travel, etc. - that you kind of just shrug off with a condition like this. It's just too expensive to stay healthy doing anything other than "normal" stuff. It'd be neat to see a diabetic do Survivor.
Gbiknel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:44:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The problem with survivor is the wreckage they leave behind. They destroy a lot of nature to make the show, then just up and leave.
imjohnk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:51:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As far as in The Netherlands they only build things and not really wreck anything except getting some coconuts from the trees? And even then it's still worth for the show because it can't be that much.
Gbiknel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:04:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They'll show you to a tropical location, clear whole areas in the forest for different things for their games. They'll also leave a lot of trash behind when they leave. There have been multiple articles about it. This is he US version though, not sure about other countries but it's hard to find a perfect location without some destruction.
imjohnk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:46:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay that's reasonable.
TheRuralBuddah ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:39:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rigging a game show (or any "competition show" with a prize) is a felony offense. $250K fine + prison time. Not to mention how badly a network/production company would be discredited...it would be career suicide.
CynicalWaffles ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:53:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
After seeing some extremely unlikeable people that the entire audience was rooting against win shows like Survivor and Big Brother, I'm confident it's not rigged.
jn2010 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:35:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you're right. I do suspect that Big Brother is a little flexible with their twists to maybe get a popular person back in the house or something.
CynicalWaffles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is one season of Big Brother in particular, Season 13, that fans of the show understand was heavily manipulated to benefit the producer favorites. It's annoying but it was kinda the dark age of the show, and it hasn't really happened since.
skizmcniz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:15:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jeff and the fucking clown shoe. Production did everything they could to keep him in the game and he fucked it up.
L_Cranston_Shadow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:20:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
After the controversies over rigging of quiz shows in the 1950's, the Communications Act was amended to outlaw fixing anything that counts as a quiz show, which I think has been broadly interpreted.
VTwinVaper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:12:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Roger from season 2 ("Kentucky Joe") came to my school when I was a kid. He mentioned that they were one of the most malnourished groups ever by the end of it, to the point that after a competition where they used walnuts as slingshot ammo, Jeff Probst felt bad for them and gave the group an unopened bag of walnuts to take back with them. He remembered the exact number of walnuts that they each got, so food was clearly extremely crucial for them at the time.
If I recall correctly he said that Elizabeth Hassleback had to be hospitalized for a few days due to severe malnourishment as well.
Elijah20100 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You'd be right, there was a court case the first season of Survivor, when one contestant sued CBS for allegedly pushing someone to vote her out. It was settled out of court, but she had a case with them potentially causing her to lose a couple grand.
imjohnk ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 15:21:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think the power of Big Brother is that they play these games to fuck up people, as well as that the cast members live in a small place together 24/7 with basically strangers.
pudgelad ยท 58 points ยท Posted at 15:25:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
But at least it's not as fucked up as the British or most European versions. In those, you literally just live with people and the "house" tries to make drama and then are evicted by the public. In the US and Canada, you're trying to win power, immunity, and not get evicted. It's a game of strategy and a really cool social experiment.
BTFCme ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 20:31:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've worked in reality for about 8 years and big brother is the least scripted show I've ever worked on. Meaning that it's not scripted. Are they guided on how to make their answers more concise? Yes. They suck at speaking. I'm also a huge fan of the show.
pudgelad ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:30:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You should do an AMA about the production of the show, or all of the shows you've worked on!
dan3melo ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 15:50:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same here in Brazil. The Big Brother Its a game of strategy. Here we have the pay per view (24/7 cable tv) and the show goes air everyday on a quickly edition of forty minutes that show the main events of the day. At Tuesday the players voted and two top voted players compete to stay in the game. The public that choose by voting on the website.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:59:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a lot like Big Brother Australia, except the housemates put 6-8 people up for eviction (instead of 2) and the public votes to save, not evict. The person with the least votes to save is evicted. So instead of the most hated person going home, the most loved people stay.
In Big Brother US and Canada, it's all done in the house. They are not supposed to get information from the audience. The Head of Household decides who is up for eviction, and the house decides who to evict.
I actually like both. They're different, but both enjoyable.
dan3melo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:47:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, Brazilian loves an affray so instead the most hated person, the good ones going home haha
hewhoreddits6 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:39:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have heard though that in some of the European versions, they will show the contestants having sex. No way that would fly in the US version.
pudgelad ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:39:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember seeing that McCrae and Amanda had sex ALL the time and not once was it mentioned in the show.
hookyboysb ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:49:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well it was a little hard with all that racism /s
Polamolecules ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:50:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
April and Ollie from season 10 did, there's even a video of it on YouTube.
Ellend821 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 15:42:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How is this different to the UK one? I'm a little confused at this statement, because in the British one you are also trying to win power, immunity and not get evicted. Do the public in the US decide who is up for eviction rather than the housemates ?
purs8770 ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 16:21:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I've never seen the British version, but in the US version one person in the house (who wins that week's competition) decides who is nominated and the other house guests then vote to decide who leaves. The public has no real part in it.
missartteacher ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:51:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In the first season of the U.S. version, the public got to choose who was evicted. There were so many issues with people voting 20 or so times for one person, and people hiring airplanes to fly over the BB house with banners, they never did it again. Probably why on some shows where the public votes, you only get a certain number of votes per voting method.
KevinMCombes ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:01:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This isn't the reason for the format change. The public vote format just turned out to be extremely boring for Americans. Back in those early days, people on reality TV worried about being seen as "nice". (Don't believe me? On season 1 of Survivor, being in an alliance was seen as a bad thing.) The more controversial and entertaining houseguests were voted out very early. Also, the HGs manipulated the votes to have many-way ties, rather than giving the public only two choices which is supposed to happen. There was no strategy to speak of.
Turns out Americans prefer a more strategic and cutthroat game. Glass House tried the public vote format again a few years ago and it flopped just as hard. (However, that house was absolutely beautiful, and "fanswers" is a concept Big Brother should absolutely steal. But they'd better not let any houseguests ask inconsequential questions like "did you smile today".)
Jonazq ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:33:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
and big brother sued glass house for copying them and a lot of the production used to work on big brother
missartteacher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:30:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
OK...I stand corrected...
suhrockinon ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:35:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The main difference is that the houseguests vote to evict (US) instead of the public (UK).
bruddahmacnut ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:48:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In the first season, they let the public vote houseguests out but what ended up happening was all of the controversial players got voted out (ex. the stripper) and what was left was the nice, safe, boring people. hard to get good ratings with that happening. The lame tasks they made them do didn't help either.
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:53:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I found UK and Aus boring as crap and really lame... Much prefer the US and Canada versions.
Good_Rain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:45:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In the US one the houseguests are evicted by the other houseguests rather than the public. At the end of the week there are only 2 people up for evicition. At the start of the week one person wins Head of Household and they are the only one who makes the nominations, not the whole house like in the UK version.
JG_Pudge ยท -6 points ยท Posted at 16:02:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On some occasions yes. But as someone who has watched both. They are basically the same but the American one likes to have America Vote on things like sometimes its who gets slop or who should go on the block, or a couple years ago 5 houseguests were made a secret alliance and america gave them missions to disrupt the house. If the houseguests accomplished the missions they got money when they got out. But basically it is the same thing just minor cultural differences.
imjohnk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:51:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually never watched the US and Canadian one, only 2 seasons of CBB in the UK. They actually can get power and immunity by playing games like "who said ___" and they have to guess and stuff like that.
CynicalWaffles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:58:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Definitely recommend the U.S. and Canadian versions if you have time. I've watched some CBB, and I really just love the North American version so much more!
_Swagner_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:17:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
International big brother (outside us and canada) is even more fucked up psychologically imo. Rather than nominating each other out and explaining your justification, as allowed in US, you're not allowed to discuss who you've nominated in UK for example. So if you're nominated to leave by majority of housemates in UK, you probably won't always know who the ones were who want you gone, and they're not even allowed to discuss it, so you go around and pretend you're all still friendly, because wtf else is there to do if you can't even talk game. Almost always a blindside. Idk...it would fuck with me mentally if I couldn't even confront multiple people who want me gone.
suhrockinon ยท 32 points ยท Posted at 17:36:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Join us! /r/BigBrother
[deleted] ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:58:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
but first...
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:01:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you watch the feeds? There's an ongoing controversy over the last two days as to whether or not the producers fed Day information in the DR.
ilovegingermen ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:32:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's absolutely no evidence that the DR actually interfered in that. She could be making it all up to prove her point.
Mathgeek007 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:40:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My cousin won Big Brother Canada. He said the only "rigging" in the show was interpreting what the diary room people said. "Tell us how you feel about X". You could probably guess they were up to something if you were none the wiser.
Otherwise; Big Brother's legit; and go Jon Pardy!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:21:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Mathgeek007 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:31:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How? He won HoH and knew that he had no chance winning in Neda was in the finals with him. She was evicted, just like everyone else who wasn't in the Final 2. :)
decentwriter ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 03:39:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's so hard to find people on Reddit who also love BB, other than in the show's specific subs. I could chat all day about it. I like to think that the show isn't rigged, but there's definitely some things that appear differently on tv than it actually is in the house, obviously. Like I heard from a previous HG that Zingbot doesn't actually talk. He just stands there and sways around and the houseguests hear a recording from a producer in the Zingbot voice. Stuff like that that's just manipulated for tv. I hope I get casted one day to find this stuff out. I think that would be one of the most interesting things about being on the show.
pudgelad ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:52:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe we will be on the same season together eventually! Looking forward to maybe seeing you on my tv one day.
decentwriter ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:00:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm going to my first open casting call next season for sure. I've been waiting until I'm done with school and have a kick ass job so I seem like I'm actually interesting to the producers. Ha.
Trilip_S_Hoffman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:47:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cummon down /r/bigbrother there's a subreddit for everything
decentwriter ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:03:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm already a part of that sub!
House923 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:53:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think with shows like big brother they don't really need to interfere. When you have like however many hundred thousand people apply to be on the show, you can pretty much use some insight to pick personality types that you know will work well together.
From there...locking any strange group of people in a house for nine weeks, filming every second of their lives, making them compete and taking away their food sometimes will inevitably provide hours of entertainment.
I've done lots of research on it too. I think the biggest thing that shocked me is that the house guests actually get to practice competitions before hand (about a day before the veto competition they will set up a mock version of whatever the competition will be if it is one involving technique or physical skill).
The fact that they have live episodes lends credence to the fact that it must be pretty much unscripted.
pudgelad ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:30:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
but to be fair, i was watching the live feeds the other night where they were preparing for the berry competition and they set up one of those lines that hipster college students have, like a tightrope, and used that, even though the competition was WAY easier than that. i've heard that they make them practice for things that are way harder than they end up being
House923 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:59:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ya sorry i should have said that as well. The competitions aren't as difficult they just give some idea of what the main comp will end up being.
skizmcniz ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:19:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes. They're given something similar to what the actual competition will be and they practice with that, although the actual competition will be a bit different.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:49:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And everyone gets an equal chance to practice.
Jonazq ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 03:18:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
and if houseguests use production as a strategy they get called out or have to take back what they said. this happened yesterday
hampie42 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:13:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Worked briefly on BB around 2008. I can say the only 'rigging' that takes place is in the contestant selection, and it's hardly that. They purposefully find people with extreme, opposing opinions to ensure friction, and supply the fuel and kindling with booze and boredom. However nothing is scripted, they don't need to.
The house was only built to last one year, but it stood for nearly ten I think. By the time I was there, every time a housemate showered we'd have wet feet in the camera run on the other side of the mirrors. It was just chip board walls and it stank like a hamster cage. If there was a technical problem inside the house that needed intervention the housemates were told to go to an area and were locked in while staff worked on it, ensuring isolation.
If you got your camera too close to the two-way mirror sometimes the housemates could see you and they'd usually laugh or point which would get cut from the show.
hookyboysb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:17:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's been two houses. The first was built for the original international format of the show, and reused for the first four seasons of the "new" format. For BB6 they built a new house on the other side of the LA river. This house remains in use today.
hampie42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:09:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wrong country. This is UK BB I'm talking about
thatgirlwithcurly ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:15:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow that's incredible. In recent seasons contestants have complained about an ant problem in the house, mainly the kitchen. Was there a bug problem when you worked on the show?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:29:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
they revamped the house recently. ever since Big Brother Canada has blown America's out of the water.
hampie42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:10:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That came later in the new house I think, we just had chickens
katiedid05 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:32:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is exactly why I want to be on it. It is the most genuine to me and I have a background in psychology and I just want to see what it would be like. I tried out at the same audition Steve got picked from last season but I don't remember him being there
pudgelad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:40:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They love having psychology and sociology people on the show. I remember seeing them all the time.
katiedid05 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:14:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly, when I tried out I got the impression that I was under some vague consideration. A lot of producers told me they thought I was cute and had a good personality for television- which they weren't saying to other people that I noticed. I stuck around checking out who all was trying out and talked to people for a while asking them what it was like working for the show. In my bio I definitely talked about how I was planning to lie to people about my background and how difficult that would be since I talk a lot.
I don't have a bikini ready body so I wasn't thinking anything was going to come of it but I did get a Big Brother rubber ducky out of it and helped film a promo for out local news station so I got to see my face on commercials for a summer
roxxxystar ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:37:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really like Big Brother, but it's very obvious that their diary entries are scripted. No normal person speaks the way they do in those things.
thunder75 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:03:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some lines are fed to the houseguests. But they do talk in the DR for hours and if the producer hears something they like, they'll ask the houseguest to say it again in a different way or with different phrasing.
roxxxystar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:51:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm just saying their lines sound rehearsed, and not genuine. Which will happen if you're being told how to say things, especially without acting experience.
Starrystars ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:44:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The only lines that are 100% fed to them are the descriptions of comps. The only other way it's scripted is that the DR asks them to change their wording and how they delivered the line.
Heritodos ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:41:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Paging u/dangheesling
j_12 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:48:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's busy he just had a baby like two or three days ago. Haha
katiedid05 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:21:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To actually get a response, one should instead page the good u/rockstardmd
RockstarDMD ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 03:51:15 on July 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't feel like anything is rigged (on my show). When I sit back and think about what it would actually take to rig the show to the point where conspiracy theories say it is, it would take a ridiculous and flawless execution from LOTS of people. Something the CIA can't even pull off. As far as confessional scripting on reality shows, some of the more story driven ones might be, but mine was definitely not. The only time it comes off as scripted is most likely when the person being interviewed cannot find a way to be succinct in his or her own words, so they may get some help to paraphrase what they are already thinking.
katiedid05 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:12 on July 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow! Thanks for actually responding! I think one of the reasons that Big Brother and Survivor are so popular is because audiences appreciate how genuine they actually are.
Do you speak from experience with needing help with Diary Room succinctness? :D cause yours were the highlight of my tv viewing experience last summer
RockstarDMD ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:26:04 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You get 2 different stories when someone talks about their confessionals: 1. I just went in there and talked. 2. "They kept trying to have me say xyz."
hookyboysb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:24:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Paging Steve would be good too, if he didn't delete his account.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:19:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Paging dr. Delicious.
DragonEevee1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:17:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Literally this is the best time for him to show up, the greatest big brother contestant ever
killmetonight ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:22:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend that was on big brother a few years back. They actually finished 2nd place and won the 50k. Supposably it's all real and none of what goes on is from producer/show interference. I still watch every now and then, but the highlight was definitely watching them on TV.
pudgelad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:31:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
can you disclose who it was?
CynicalWaffles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:05:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was your friend Porshe Briggs or Lane ElenBerg? Just guessing haha
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:31:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
from comment history they are a Miami Heat fan. Porshe is from Miami so guessing her
CynicalWaffles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:33:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Truly a detective! Haha thanks though you are probably right.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:44:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
During the filming of Big Brother Israel there were bombs going over the house and they could hear the sirens going off. I don't think they were allowed to go into a shelter and weren't informed about the severity of the attacks until a month later.
baldeagle86 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:44:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I love Big Brother also, and the diary room manipulation could be sort of rigging, I guess. The random chip draws too, and some comp stuff sometimes. But overall I think the show is very real. Maybe I'm an idiot for thinking that though.
CynicalWaffles ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:03:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The thing is, if they rig the random chip draws, the houseguests could actually draw two of the same name. It could never happen. The people in the house would know what production was up to, and they would say it on the feeds.
dollyfox ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:28:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is absolutely no way that they would remove certain people's chips from the bag. Big No-No. That falls under the rigging rules shows like Big Brother have. Also, during one of the veto draws in BB 16 (I think it was final 7 but don't quote me on that) Frankie got so upset that his chip wasn't pulled that he got up and started digging through the draw box. There is no way he would've let that go if his chip wasn't in there, in the house or otherwise.
WhoIsSatoshi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:21:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not. I know some of the actual producers who despise some of the contestants as-is. Of course, those ppl are put in a house for their characters and the expectations that sparks WILL fly one way or the other.
ForgottenPhenom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:24:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm with you! I love that show too! I want to be on it just to see how much the production actually controls the show
skylla05 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:52:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Maybe the American version, but I'm fully convinced that the producers of the Canadian Big Brother twist the show around to give advantages to fan favorites or certain people.
Season 4 eased up on them a bit, but Season 2 and 3 were getting to the point where I was losing interest in the show because there were so many twists and secret competitions/vetos that, imo, completely negated any sort of strategy. The best example I can think of is the secret power Brittnee and Sarah in S3 won (they basically both received a secret veto which would remove BOTH people from the block, which they had a few weeks to hold on to and use when they wanted). I wouldn't have minded as much if it was introduced early on when lots of people were still there, but it was given to them with only a few weeks left.
pudgelad ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:59:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually just finished BBCan4 and thought it was a really good season! I have seen half of season 1, but not 2 or 3. I didn't see too much influencing in BBCan from what I've seen. But if what you say is true, and these people got that CRAZY power, then that is manipulation in its definition. Big Brother is best played without all the crazy twists. BBCan4 was a perfect example. It had those wild cards, but nothing that hindered game-play, like the US's extremely stupid stint of "Battle of the Block."
skylla05 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:27:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, Canada went really hard on the twists for Season 2 and 3, but they eased up a lot on them in Season 4, which was nice to see. I just like seeing pure, trashy Big Brother without intervention from the audience. There are other examples of stupid twists too, but that one sticks out as being the worst.
I did notice on BB18, that America is going fairly hard on the twists this year too, but nothing too game breaking yet.
pudgelad ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:12:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What I'm hoping is that either next season or All Stars (which is rumored to be BB20!) will be a normal season with NO TWIST. Like the twist should be that there is no twist.
skylla05 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:26:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh I've been hoping for an All Stars season again! I really enjoyed the last one.
Starrystars ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well they already did a Back to Basics season with BB 10 which was a great season.
Chantottie ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:39:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel BBCan got lucky this season that Tim made it to the end on his own. If he was up to be evicted, I'm sure they would have saved him with some "Twist". Also the Lovita and Kelsey thing was a bit manipulative I found.. I knew Kelsey would be going back in 100% to keep a showmance and rivalry alive.
Astroman129 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:10:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think they went too hard on twists in BBCAN2. They were generally pretty tame, especially compared to BBCAN1 & 4. The only real twists were letting Canada vote on who should be nominated and putting a houseguest in the game like two weeks late.
Starrystars ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:54:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
IIRC the first five were brigading the rest of the house. While I think it wasn't a great twist it did flip the game around.
SireBelch ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 21:41:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just look at Frank's first season. They rigged that shit to keep him in about 3 times. It was painfully obvious that production had a serious hard-on for him.
And now he's back.
pudgelad ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:31:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, I never thought about it like that. I just assumed he was an amazing comp player. I mean, he did win the first BBRoadkill challenge, but that could just be a coincidence. Although he has gotten a ton of screen time for nothing, basically.
skizmcniz ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:25:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was. The game wasn't rigged for him. He was just amazing at competitions. Winning the comps he did is the only reason he lasted as long as he did in the game, because he was the target pretty much every week. His wins kept him in the game.
And this is coming from someone who fucking despised him.
skizmcniz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:25:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hated Frank during BB14. Like full on despised him.
I don't think it was rigged for him at all. The dude was just a beast at competitions and kept winning when he had to.
Which was fucking infuriating.
pjokkidudels ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:03:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
BigBrother run it down mid hehe xd BigBrother
John32070 ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 17:06:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to love Big Brother but after about season 8 it got dull to me and having outlandish people on it just makes it worse. I know it's not popular but the most honest one was the first, even though many thought it dull.
terrynutkinsfinger ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 17:03:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you one of those that would love to be on it just to appear in Heat magazine and have 5 minutes of trashy fame?
pudgelad ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:55:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ha! Unfortunately I don't even know what Heat magazine is, and I appreciate and adore the game and the strategy behind the game. I'm less interested in the fame but half-million-dollars, and just a chance to play my favorite "game".
terrynutkinsfinger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:57:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, you're not British then.
You just went up in my estimation. And I AM British.
hookyboysb ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 08:39:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, a lot of us BBNA fans consider the international versions to be overly trashy (although a lot love the UK and Australian versions).
For the record, the US version is a completely different beast. Nominations are made by a single person who has won immunity for the week, and those nominees get a chance to save themselves with a power they (out of 6 total people in the competition) can win. Eviction votes are done by the houseguests, so in order to win you just have to have a good social game and (usually) a good physical game. Since it's not a popularity contest like the UK version you can be the most hated houseguest ever and still win, and you can be the most liked ever and be out the first week.
GoTurnMeOn ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:55:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
The live feeds are "24"/7.
They are turned off for competitions... the same competitions where people claim unjust rigging by production.
Edit: care to explain the downvotes, anyone..?
CynicalWaffles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:08:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The houseguests would and have talked about what they thought was rigging in competitions on the live feeds before. I'm not saying it couldn't happen, but if it did happen it would be obvious to people watching the live feeds.
GoTurnMeOn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:49:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't tell if this was in support of or against what I wrote in my comment.
All I was saying was OP presented it in their post as a consistently live feed from when the HGs enter the house until they leave. He claims this is the reason Production needs "to be SUPER careful".
It is nothing like that. The feeds are down a ton... and are never on during any important competitions, that have large ramifications on the results of the game.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 23:33:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your edit has convinced me you're mentally ill.
ogcoliebear ยท 102 points ยท Posted at 17:04:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I work on scripted and reality television shows, and did a mini AMA here if anyone is interested in more specifics: https://www.reddit.com/r/BravoRealHousewives/comments/4ma3vs/ive_worked_on_several_reality_and_scripted/
LizzardFish ยท 161 points ยท Posted at 17:12:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I knew a girl who was on MTV's "I want a famous face" awhile back. They made her confess feelings she didn't have to her gay best friend and she couldn't tell him it wasn't true until after the show aired. It ruined their lifelong friendship in the end.
edit: forgot a word
boxopen ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 19:50:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Couldn't she just say in private?
magemax ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 21:19:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
People believe that any NDA they sign is binding, regardless of its legality.
I can't believe how many friends feel bound by clauses in their contracts that would not be enforced in court because they are illegal.
SpacebornKiller ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:05:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That pisses me off.
amheekin ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:18:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What the fuck, seriously?
AppleBerryPoo ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:06:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, fuck that. I would back tf out of any contract at that point, and if they pulled the ol' legal card I would say it was causing lasting emotional trauma for the both of us. That's fucking awful
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:31:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I blame the people involved for not being mature enough to deal with a bit of attraction, even if it was fake.
Just_For_Da_Lulz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:41:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow, that's top-level assholishness right there.
EmilioMolesteves ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 03:02:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How did so many people make a lick of sense out of this comment?
Project2r ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:52:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
now try re-reading? is that better?
spmahn ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 18:02:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not exactly a reality show, but most Game Shows have a per episode prize budget, and have methods in place to put the brakes on if someone starts winning too much. Too many winners on Price is Right? The producers start breaking out games like Lucky Seven and That's Too Much that have very low win percentages. Your bankroll too high on Wheel of Fortune? Your bonus round puzzle will be something like Oak Bureau or Choir Practice.
algag ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 21:00:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't forget since they give RSTLNE in the bonus round they get direct influence on the difficulty of the puzzle.
PlanetMustafar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:01:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm. Too bad Ted Slauson can't come back to the show
jrm2003 ยท 27 points ยท Posted at 18:49:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a video editor, I can safely say it would be nearly impossible to make an entertaining reality show that wasn't at least a little fake.
There's very little budget and very little turn-around time, so I'm not going to have time to sift through 1000 hours of unscripted BS to create a convincing narrative.
I've done that before. It's called making a documentary and even a 30 minute short doc takes months to edit properly.
Most Reality TV is nothing more than loosely scripted TV, with extra shots to allow for some spontaneity, and that is the only way to do it (that I know of) without:
a) Releasing 2-3 episodes per year
b) Budgeting for an army of scripties/ assistant editors/ on-the-fly writers (Think the Truman show)
c) Being more of a talk show/game show/reality hybrid
DerpSherpa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:22:50 on July 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Candid Camera could make a quality reality show without scripting!
spartan_sammy ยท 300 points ยท Posted at 15:51:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Not a reality tv show, but I was in a commercial for Cedar Point (rollercoaster/amusement park) and I really did get to ride the ride that they were filming us on to advertise it since it was the new one that year. The only part they didn't include in the commercial was the part where the ride broke down while they were filming and we were stuck up in the air for 45 minutes while they fixed it....
Edit: Since people asked, it was the Windseaker. Like one of those carnival swing rides only a lot taller and much more sturdy than some piece of crap that was on a truck yesterday.
[deleted] ยท 28 points ยท Posted at 16:44:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Okay Eugene...
Build_It_Taller ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 17:12:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hey Arnold reference?
WtotheSLAM ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:41:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly what I thought
Maysock ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:53:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm Okay!
ZimboSong ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 22:09:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Upvote for Cedar Point!!!!!
Bonzo2755 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:22:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you a ride warrior?!?!
PRYHMZ ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:49:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe they were filming a separate video thats used as ride safety when a rollercoaster breaks
GuardianOfTriangles ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:10:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Valravyn? Broke down this weekend when I was there.
Jakinator178 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:38:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It breaks down at least once every day.
GuardianOfTriangles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:09:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard multiple times a day from the workers.
PM_ME_WITH_ANYTHING ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:11:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was stuck at the top of Millennium Force for about 30 minutes one time. That was an awesome experience. WindSeeker though. Eww.
gmalsparty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:20:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My roommate and I strapped into the RipCord at Challenge Park (the little area between Soak City and CP) and he took it upon himself to be the one who pulls the cord. We get the 200ft or whatever up there and he flat out freezes. Can't talk, can't move, just terrified of the emptiness below us that you don't get with a roller coaster. It felt like we were up there for 10 minutes before he finally dropped us, apparently it was like maybe 2.
mr_lemonpie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:23:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Too thrill dragster?
spartan_sammy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:57:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was the Windseaker. It's like one of the carnival swing rides that goes around in a circle only this one is a)much more sturdy and b) goes a lot higher in the air.
mr_lemonpie ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:00:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For sure, I just knew they had tons of problems with that thing when it opened.
veryrandomcomment ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I heart CP!
whoreoleo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:56:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most people don't profess their love of child pornography so openly..
coltonrb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Interesting, I've ridden the same version (I think) at Kings Dominion in VA, and it's never broken down. It it thoroughly enjoyable
blsfan8497 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:15:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuuuuuuck that ride, being stuck on those kind of rides is what i fear most at amusement parks. I love Cedar Point overall though, great rides.
theRealCheese56 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:20:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude fuck being stuck on that ride. I'd shut myself
Techwood111 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:53:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Carowinds, I bet. How many times in its short life has it gotten stuck?!?
jamonathin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:36:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Top Speed Dragster?
WolverineBlue18 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 18:30:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*Top Thrill Dragster
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:48:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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whichwitch9 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:37:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen it happen twice. There's apparently a sweet spot where if the coaster can't make it up, it won't go backwards, either.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:07:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
oh my god. I would probably have the panic attack that would finally kill me if I got stuck on the top. holy shit that would be awful.
cjmook21 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:02:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Happened when I was in line and I've only been there once.
herrschmetterling ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 17:57:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was a witness on a show with a certain syndicated judge. The cases are real. The people are real. The rulings are final.
But, you sit in a green room for hours beforehand not getting fed, and watching Jerry Springer, and a bunch of producers come in trying to get you riled up. My mom had to submit a statement of her side of the story, and the producers brought it to her with some "edits." She had to basically say "lol no, that's not what happened" and get them to redact some of their edits. They pretend to be on your side, calling names, and you know there's someone else in the next room saying the same thing to the person you're in court against.
When you go into hair and makeup, there's people walking you through the halls talking on walkie talkies to make sure you don't run into the person you're suing/the person suing you beforehand.
The people in the audience are paid actors, and they just have them move seats between episodes.
And, lastly, if you've ever been wondering why people go on those shows, you get paid to appear, and if a judgment is made against the defendant, the show will pay for the defendant's damages.
So, pretty real, but also kinda not.
pixelmeow ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:12:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen some really horrible hairstyles, makeup, and outfits. Like people don't know how to dress to come to court, don't realize how god-awful their hair and makeup looks. Is that faked? I'm disappointed that that show isn't as real as I always thought it was.
herrschmetterling ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:13:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They don't pick out wardrobe for you. The guy suing my mom showed up in a golf tee and tennis shoes, and they didn't help him out with something more appropriate for court. (It was what he wore to everything.)
Also, hair and makeup was about ten minutes. For me it was a little blush and some lip stick. I actually felt bad for the gal who was doing my makeup, because you could tell she wanted to be doing something important/conceptual, and here she was doing makeup on defendants for court TV.
So, my guess is that the vast majority of what you see is what people appear in. I'm imagining the hair and makeup is just so your features are more distinguishable on TV?
pixelmeow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:22:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have seen some atrocious hair and makeup on (what I think is) that show. Some women dressed like they're going to the club, or trashy in general, and trashy looking guys, too. Saggy pants, tee shirts, and one guy came dressed like one of those guys who dress up in the same crazy fabric their girlfriend is wearing to prom. Stupid crazy outfit. All shiny and glittery. I feel much better that this is all on them and not the show.
PlanetMustafar ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:45:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Judge Judy cough my throat really gets caught sometimes, sorry.
read a story about people abusing the appearance fee. 3 roommate buddies decided they'd bullshit a case and show up faking that they hated each other etc. Judy saw through their shit but they still got ~$1000 or whatever the appearance fee is and they left victorious
herrschmetterling ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ding ding ding.
yearofthecat ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:56:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And the people who are supposedly watching outside and giving input on the case with Harvey Levin? Nope. The production crew is grabbing random shoppers and tourists at an outdoor mall in LA. They give you a one line synopsis of the case and Harvey puts the mike in your face - which is why some people sound as if they aren't seeing all the details.
Harvey is super awesome though. Very, very nice and incredibly professional. Those segues are single takes.
spozeicandothis ยท 52 points ยท Posted at 17:17:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
friend of mine was on Shark Tank Season 1. They made a "deal" with an investor but they later demanded terms so onerous in the negotiation friend said fuck it and walked. So I suspect lots of those are not consummated.
I1lI1llII11llIII1I ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:57:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The PR your friend got was priceless though.
yearofthecat ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:45:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From the two people I know who've been on it: if the deal is scuttled during due diligence/post pitch negotiations, it doesn't air.
chadcf ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:00:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've followed up on various companies, and that's definitely not true, there are plenty of deals that never go through but get air time. Here are a few followups, several of them were aired but never sealed the deal.
yearofthecat ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:00:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, maybe I was a little unclear? They can not get a deal and air and they can get a deal and air but I was told by my friends that you can't get a deal, have it fall through AND air.
hermy_own ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:16:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In your friends particular case I guess they chose not to air it, but there have been some companies that got a deal, had it fall through, and still air. In the link above your comment, #6 is one of those.
chadcf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:51:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No, it was clear, your friend is just wrong. The link I gave has several examples of companies that got a deal on shark tank and then had it fall through.
CapnObv314 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:53:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like Herjavek and how he skipped out on his "You Smell" deal. Nothing is finalized in those negotiations.
spozeicandothis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
no - S1E04 Coverplay
PlanetMustafar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:46:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Robert has a reputation for being a pretty honest and decent guy, in surprised he did this. Most would tell you Kevin and Mark would be the ones to skip deals
Project2r ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:57:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I watch the show and can confirm.
Kevin is a dick.
eat_me_now ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:44:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"YOU'RE DEAD TO ME GET THE FUCK OUT!"
PlanetMustafar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:35:57 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's basically his shtick, yeah xD
PMyouMooningME ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:16:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good for your friend!
squigs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:41:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently a lot of them fall through. The investors need to do a lot more due diligence than they can do on the show so they can bail out as well.
minneapoman ยท 24 points ยท Posted at 18:02:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on Bath Crashers on the DIY Network. It was pretty legit and unscripted. They staged some things like my buddy and I launching the old toilet into the dumpster but for the most part they just filmed while we all worked and did our thing.
The most "rigged" part of the show was definitely how the timing of the project was presented. I believe on the final edit they made it appear to be done in 3 days but in reality there were still contractors putzing around with final touches for around 3 weeks and while the final project WAS truly impressive, there were a few things that were done pretty wonky.
bruddahmacnut ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:04:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is that like yard crashers where the host stalks people at Home Depot trying to find a willing participant? I've always thought that part of the show was so fake. Funโฆ but fake.
minneapoman ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:41:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup, it's A LOT like that. You actually just reminded me of another fabricated part. To choose the participants for the show they had a huge open call for people looking to win a bath remodel. Hundreds of people stood in line outside of a local hardware store waiting for there chace to meet with the producers for their shot. While the line was still basically full some of the producers went threw the line and cherry picked a few couples they liked the look of, literally. These couples were then interviewed and then of those couples my friend and his fiance were the ones that were picked. It was at that point that they did the fake "random" stop in the store with the host.
Can't believe I forgot this staged portion. I'd still say that it's about 50/50 regarding how genuine the show is.
37214 ยท 46 points ยท Posted at 20:12:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd like to hear from someone who was on GUTS (or Global GUTS) or Legends Of The Hidden Temple. Loved those shows, wanted to be on either incredibly bad. Actually, still want to be in either of them.
Astroman129 ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 01:22:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently, those were real. I did read an interview that they sometimes had to do re-takes of certain events or competitions if it surprisingly crumbled. For example, I remember watching an interview with someone (don't remember who) from GUTS season 3 who said all three people on the Mega Crag got disqualified for crossing into someone else's path or missing a button, so they just started it over.
Also Kirk Fogg from Legends said they had to redo temple runs a few times. Once someone got caught upside down in the pit room, threw up, and started crying, so they had to start everything over.
Lovely.
billabong27 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:27:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know who could answer? Let's kick it over to Mo, Mo!
shrimpybimp ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 10:29:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know it's not the same, but I was in the front row of a taping of Slime Time Live at Nickelodeon Studios when I was a kid. I remember it as being super real and super awesome and (after I got slimed) super slimy. Haha! The host was nice and we had a blast.
src12 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:55:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They interviewed Bryan Beer II, a former champion on KFC Radio, which is a podcast on Barstool Sports. Here's a link to the video if you're interested.
mamameaghan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:19:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes please!!! Do, do, do, do you have it? GUTS.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:59:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
There's an old request on here somewhere that people actually replied to being on the show.
I thought this was it but it doesn't look like it. https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/ab5l0/request_someone_who_was_a_contestant_on_the/
I promise it's out there somewhere, I went down the wormhole on guts research a few months ago.
andyrosenberg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:57:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Kirk fogg was on an episode of the Jeff Rubin podcast and said they shot both seasons of legends in like 3 days. He'd never hosted a show before and they recorded like 10 episodes a day, which explains why he fumbles his words a lot haha.
Edit: here's a link to the episode. It's really interesting.. He also interviewed Mo from GUTS in a different episode. It's a great podcast.
mamameaghan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:18:34 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for that!
FITGuard ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 19:14:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on "Make Me a Millionaire Inventor", we were asked to show up to a day of filming with our prototype. We told them our prototype wasn't ready and it wasn't going to be ready in time. They said that is ok just come. So the day of, I reiterate and tell them that our prototype still isn't working and they said no problem, just try to get it going. Then when they start filming they call me out said I tried to show up with a broken prototype and trick the professor we were working with. Off Camera. I gave the director the stare of death as I realized he just tossed me under the bus, because I know he is feeding info to the host through a wireless ear piece.
actkms ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 20:17:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So I haven't worked on one, but if people are interested in this stuff you should really watch UnREAL. It's a fucking amazing show about all the shit the Bachelor producers do. People have come forward saying a lot of it is real (although some is hyperbolic). Chris Harrison and people from the Bachelor are really not happy with it and are trying to fight back actually.
KitKatMasterJapan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:36:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I LOVE unREAL!
actkms ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:11:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is soooo good!!!! And it's hillarious that the Bachelorette is on from 8-10pm and then UnReal is on right after from 10-11 on Mondays!
chrisssypoo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:03:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Gonna watch that today!!!
Whippersnapper-getit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:49:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Originally I thought this post was promoting UnREAL
Blakavenge ยท 60 points ยท Posted at 21:58:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Guess I can finally have a comment on one of these threads. I was on the reality TV show 'wife swap' a while back, and you've probably figured it out, most of it is fake. Before they actually set up the scenario where your mom goes away for 10 days, (they say it's two weeks but it's only 10 days) a camera crew and director get a 2 HOUR INTERVIEW on tape with each family member. And of course, they ask about you, and then just throw loaded questions at you, to get clips of what they want to use in the show, and what answers you say. Didn't say an answer in the way they wanted? The director will say, "can you answer again, but like 'this?'"these clips they use later, to set up the scenarios that they want , because nothing interesting even happens.
After they do actually swap moms it's just super crazy and awkward. More set up daily scenarios , interviews every day, hell once I had to walk down the stairs three times so they got the shot. It was bad
I'm getting bored of typing so the worst part is that they set it all up to create problems that don't exist and try to make one family look good and one family get torn apart . Which unfortunately was my family. Parents almost got divorced because of all the fake shit they set up.
Edit- a lot of the emotion seen in the show is real, though. It's just a lot of it comes out of frustration and stupid set up scenarios. Like, one time they caught my sister and I arguing about something that was completely irrelevant to the show , and they just caught the end and threw it in the show, where she was crying due to being so upset from the cameras.
TLDR it's set up, lots of re shooting and prompting. Fuck wife swap.
(I'll edit this later on mobile and phones gonna die )
Riveris ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 01:52:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If I could know if the one with the crazy military mom who forced her 11 year old daughter to put her art in a box under the bed or the one with the crazy cult family was fake, that would be great
Blakavenge ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:50:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As a lifestyle thing it's probably fake. They take moms who have certain stereotypes and lifestyles and try to play on it. Like they'll ask a 'military mom' to probably do something to be stricter to the kids she's with, I'd assume. So what you saw was likely the result of that. It is kind of 'real' that she did it, but I can guarantee you it wasn't on her own motivation.
Riveris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:04:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, she just seemed generally crazy.
ReddGold ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 02:01:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I gotta know man, what fake problems did they set up that almost got your parents to divorce?
valque ยท 221 points ยท Posted at 16:29:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a friend that auditioned for the Voice. Beforehand he had to choose his coach before getting on stage. This way the coaches get an evenly amount of singers.
PM_ME_LEGAL_PAPERS ยท 61 points ยท Posted at 17:43:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it's always even regardless, seeing as once their team is full, a coach can't turn around for anyone else.
Zephaerus ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 18:40:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And I bet you it's just a preference for the people auditioning, not a guarantee. Your choice probably matters, but not that much.
Velirno ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:14:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So it's the Sorting Hat...
imjohnk ยท 43 points ยท Posted at 16:33:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In The Netherlands the coach that has their 8 talents just can't be chosen anymore, or won't turn around as easy because he already has 6/7 talents.
valque ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 17:24:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's sounds reasonable not really "fake". (hallooo!)
imjohnk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:28:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha yeah it's better in my opinion.
UltimateInferno ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:33:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So it's basically a game on the Judge's part as well. Pick this person or wait for someone better to come along. It's actually interesting.
imjohnk ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:46:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah it was interesting the first season in my opinion but now it's too much because they have 2 seasons of The Voice every year. Obviously just because it earns a lot of money and garners a lot of viewers.
hewhoreddits6 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:57:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Season 1 was a real mind game. Adam went through an episode or two without picking up a single member for his team, which is a huge risk because even when he sees that perfect, awesome singer, he may still lose them to the other judges. It paid off in the end though, because I'm pretty sure his guy won. After that though it was a shitshow because Christina at several points wouldn't even try for the best people. She would just go "I wanted to turn around so bad, but I'd rather see Blake and Adam fight over you instead".
ThatWasFred ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 23:11:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your friend must have misunderstood (at least if this is the U.S. Voice, which is the one I have experience with). Contestants are asked whose team they might like to be on, but are also encouraged to listen sincerely to each coach's pitch in case they change their mind. The one thing the producers go apeshit over is good TV, and part of that is an unexpected coach/contestant pairing (like when a country contestant goes with someone other than Blake, for example, especially if they said beforehand that they WOULD choose Blake).
On the U.S. Voice, nothing competition-related is rigged. The coaches have no knowledge of the contestants before the blind auditions, their contestant eliminations in later rounds are not pre-determined, and the audience votes during live shows are not manipulated. The only "fake" stuff is that contestants are encouraged to bring up their life stories whenever possible...but that's pretty much par for the course for any reality show. I have enormous respect for the way the show is run.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:52:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, I just watched an interview with Alisan Porter (Curly Sue!! :) ) and she said when she got on, she had already decided that she was gonna pick Pharrell Williams. She said her mind was made up.. But when she listened to their pitches, she ended up going with Christina.
valque ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:42:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was the dutch version of it (the original). In the dutch version they changed the formula to make it less real after season 3. One judge even stopped because of that. Maybe the US still has the version of the first seasons of the voice of holland.
I will ask the guy what it really was that made it fake when he auditioned five years ago. :')
Jenniferh9309 ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 19:03:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In addition to this, I've auditioned for the Voice and the X factor twice each.
The X factor does non-public auditions for people with potential (people who sing publicly and enter open mic competitions and stuff). The public auditions are mainly just to find the weird/quirky people. My mum and I got put through, but I think that was because we were mother and daughter and they could have played on that. We had to go into a room with a producer and a camera (one of us after the other) and they asked me all these questions like "how does your family feel about you competing against each other" and "are you jealous or mad at your mum". It was weird.
The Voice makes you fill out a massive application form first - who is your idol, what is your sound, etc. Then you go into a room with 9 other people and sit in a circle, listening to each person sing in turn. You only get one minute to show off your voice (which is impossible). They send you out of the room and bring you back in and tell you who gets through. It's brutal listening to all the good singers before you.
champign0n ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:42:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for sharing, I've always wondered about the real behind the scene of x factor.
Sorry you haven't made it through yet.
From your experience, do you have any thoughts on how they choose the people that will eventually go on tv?
Do you feel that, by the time the public auditions start, they very well know already who will make the live shows?
Jenniferh9309 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:57:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you want to get onto the first TV auditions you need to be bad, but in a funny way. Extra points if you have the balls to say something mean to the judges. Even if the producers say no to you, don't take it as a no, just brake down, that could get you through. That's my advice for 5 minutes of fame.
If you want to get on to the live shows you have to have "the look". You have to be a young, at least slightly good looking person, with a sound that would get on the charts. You also have to stand out a bit - whether this means having experience (lots of open mic nights, entering local competitions etc) or just having a great personality (eg Lauren Murray). You also have to perform. Don't just go into the room and sing, you have to move, show expression and use your hands. Be on a stage, but in that room.
In my personal opinion, they already know who will go onto the live shows. If people react strongly to people via social media during the auditions, I think that works in their advantage. I think that who goes out at each stage is decided before hand. That's why (in my head at least) someone could do a terrible job at the judges houses but still get put through "because I know you're better than that and I want to give you another chance to prove me right" cue crying and "I will I promise"
The whole thing is orchestrated to get the best possible views, to the point that watching from the outside you can predict it. At the end of the day it's about getting a lot of views, not making people famous or helping their careers.
SilentJoe1986 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:36:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry but unless you saw that first hand I can't put too much trust in that. True it's a singing competition but the real contest is between the judges. It them trying to see the raw talent and who can groom them the best to win the contest. They get a choice if multiple judges turn around but if only one turns around and its not the judge they chose then they have no choice. Your friend was probably asked which team he wanted to be on. Not that judge he chose is the team he was going to he on
valque ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:29:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was in Holland, where the Voice comes from. It was about 5 years ago he told me. So it is quite possible I don't recall it correctly. But what I do know is that one judge stopped after season 3 because they changed the formula that made it less real. Maybe the US version has still the formula from season 1 and 2 of Holland Voice. Or the contestant has to make a top 4 of judges. Or it is beforehand decided who turns around. :S
Anyway, I will try to contact the guy who told me five years ago. To tell the story correctly. (If he calls it correctly)
[deleted] ยท 69 points ยท Posted at 22:10:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I have an acquaintance who was on The Bachelor. I'll call her Jane. Every morning, the directors would give the girls a pill to "protect them from herpes." However, Jane has had experience with that particular type of pill and doubted that's what they were being given. So she stashed one and brought it back to her local doctors office to find out what it is. Turns out they give the girls estrogen pills every morning, which explains why they're all so ridiculously emotional. Edit: Thank you to /u/mother_rucker for catching my mistake
flarn2006 ยท 57 points ยท Posted at 23:12:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds very illegal.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:21:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree, but it was probably disclosed in the contract they had to sign.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:57:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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Diarygirl ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 04:50:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like bullshit. I can't believe girls would actually believe they could take a pill to prevent herpes. And I really don't believe that the show was feeding them estrogen, and it certainly wouldn't be a legal contract if it had illegal terms in it.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 08:04:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Watching that show, I'm pretty sure some of them still believe in the Tooth Fairy.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:07:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm pretty sure this is the medicine she was talking about.
mother_rucker ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 04:32:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wouldn't she have been on the Bachelor?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:03:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah, yes. My mistake
peekykeen ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 04:02:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel like I wouldn't try to date the bachelorette if it was implied she had herpes.
katiedid05 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:51:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I was in high school one of my buddies cousins was on "The Bachelor" and went really far to the family meet episodes. It ended up being more awkward than the edits showed because he family was very religious and super grilled which ever bachelor it was about his spirituality and were very disapproving of him.
Also, Juan Pablo went to my college. I've met him and he is actually a really chill and unassuming person who likes to fly under the radar. I'll likely see him at homecoming this year
BiteYourOwnTongue ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:41:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That in itself could be a TV show.
bohemianwitchcraft ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 17:41:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a show here in Canada called 'party mamas' and it's pretty much just overbearing moms throwing overly extravagant parties for their kids (basically my super sweet 16) - anyway I knew a mom and daughter who were featured on it quite well, some of the sweetest people I'd met and relatively humble about the money they have but the show made the daughter look like a total spoiled brat and the mom look like a tyrant for her grad party (I think), I mean I'm sure genuine outburst happened but from knowing and interacting with them on a daily basis it very much came off staged, or at least to the point where the producers put them in enough situations to get the reaction they wanted.
Slummish ยท 35 points ยท Posted at 20:48:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on Dating Naked. All the floppy cocks and sagging titties are real.
GenericVodka13 ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 01:36:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I probably masturbated to you. `~`
davidjoshualightman ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:01:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just watched season 2 the last few weeks and previously saw season 1. Would love to hear more about your experience, regardless of season. I'm pretty convinced they shot all of season 2 in like 2 weeks and made it seem much longer.
C0dyL88 ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 04:28:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I live in Waco and my company is contracted by magnolia homes. They have a show on HGTV called fixer upper. They are probably some of the fakest most inconsiderate people I've ever run across. One of my best friends moms was on the show. They fixed her house just enough to show it. Didn't finish the plumbing,electrical,floors,kitchen or paint. Made their show and moved on. Friends mom sued and won 110k judgement all went to finishing her house. I'm on a job with them and they only show up for what needed for television. The minimal amount possible. And their business in downtown Waco is extremely over priced but people heard in there like cattle to the slaughter. Makes me so mad. Always wanted to vent about these people. Thanks for listening lol Edit for spelling
PossumMcStabby ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 09:09:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Really?! I'm so disappointed to hear that. I love that show and thought they were relatively genuine. Your poor friends mum!
fleaona ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:27:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just finished two seasons on Netflix. I'm sad, but not surprised. The husband seems like an ass
C0dyL88 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:40:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea we were doing a house one time and I didn't see them but once. He was working on a window and came in to film a segment for the episode. He grabbed an already cut and measured board and put it on the window some dude already finished. But in the show it looks like he's been there the whole time working on it.
fleaona ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:19:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's always doing stupid stuff on the show. If that's what they leave in, I can only imagine how obnoxious he is in real life.
lobido ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:44:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Darn it, I liked Chip and Jo. But I thought they were real.
NeinNyet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:18:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for the warning. My wife has been wanting to take a trip down there ...
gotfuzzy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:31:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Khou has been tweeting about that damn bakery for days ๐
Butter_Is_Life ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shoot, that's sad to hear. Not that it's fake, but the inconsideration to the point of lawsuits. Thanks for the input, though.
HIL_H ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 19:41:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was the defendant on a Judge Judy episode in high school. Long story short, a valet messed up my car by taking a dip in the road hard. The valet owner got in a scuffle with my friend's family and sued me in proxy for physical assault/damage to his belongings/car (all made up!!!) and so I counter-sued for damages to my car.
The case was real and the payout. The judge saw through his BS very quickly. However the money came from the show's pocket and not the plaintiff. Whoever loses actually still gets paid to be on the show so it sucks in that sense it's not "true" justice.
kitehighcos ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:06:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
this is actually super interesting to find out that a judge show is real. i was truly convinced they were all extremely fake
HIL_H ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:23:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Same thought here before it happened! Forgot to mention the way they get cases is to have staff go through local scheduled small claims court cases and find the interesting ones, then contact both parties. LA county has plenty idiots and wild claims going on to keep all those judge shows busy.
Bbzk001 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:26:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah. It works because both parties legally agree to let Judy arbitrate for them.
Ceungosse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 11:49:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't even think she was a real judge.
SpanglyJoker ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:38:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So does the winner also get paid for being in the show?
HIL_H ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:01:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea both parties do
gemma_morrow ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:34:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Years ago I received a phone call from a Judge Judy casting person. I had filed a small claims court against an ex and they asked if I wanted to be on the show and said JJ's success rate was pretty high, I would have received the amount of the claim plus had airfare paid for. I declined because I did not want to be on t.v.
Booty_Is_Life_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:41:00 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did everything work out in your case
gemma_morrow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:30:55 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope. I never followed through with my small claims - tried several times to serve the papers but that was unsuccessful. I was stuck footing the $750 rental car bill - for a car he wasn't supposed to use my card for. Tough lesson learned and so glad I never had a relationship with him after.
Booty_Is_Life_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:41:03 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That sucks that you got stuck with the bill
Booty_Is_Life_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:38:33 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was always thought that show was fake
PM_ME_YOUR_FUN_FACTS ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:11:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A guy I went to high school with was on MTV's Virgin Territory. He was definitely not a virgin going into the show.
[deleted] ยท 163 points ยท Posted at 17:00:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I was just security, but I worked for MTV summer of 2002. You'd be amazed at how many people would come up to us around 3 every day asking when TRL was going to start filming.
Jokes on them, they filmed 5 episodes in a day and moved the crowd around so it didn't look like the same people the whole time.
Edit: I should have clarified. This was the summer programming for them. Not in Midtown Manhattan. Seaside Heights NJ.
JustSpeechie ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 20:30:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is so not true... I was in the TRL audience twice, and we had to get to the studio maybe an hour or an hour and a half before, and they spent a lot of that time placing us in seats and going over rules. Nothing else was being filmed, though. They did move us around a ton during commercial breaks (I think 3 times an episode?). Plus, maybe 30 minutes after the show, we saw the hosts exit the building. This was in 2006, so maybe they changed it from how things were run in 2002, but it was definitely a live show.
FunnyHunnyBunny ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 19:28:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Im assuming youre joking but if not or if there are people dumb enough to not see the joke I'm calling major bullshit on this. One, I've been part of the crowd on TRL. Definitely only one episode and also it's LIVE. You can't fake live TV so that's why I am assuming you're joking.
texabyte ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:54:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hi. I work on a live tv show. Half of it is pre recorded. Some of it was from an hour ago, some from 2 days ago. not a lot of people want to wake up at 4:00 AM to be on TV
FunnyHunnyBunny ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:11:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not talking about whatever show you worked for. I am talking about TRL. It was live every day with an audience and studio that could easily be seen from Time Square because it was surrounded by clear windows on the 2nd floor of the building. It would be impossible to fake being live on that set. And the show wasnt at some ungoldy hour in the morning, it was at 4 pm eastern time. Also, it was a very easy show to run since 70% if the show was playing the top 10 music videos. The person I was responding to replied to my comment saying it wasn't from this set but from when they were doing some summer beach series.
texabyte ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:13:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry, I wasn't super clear. I was responding to you saying "You can't fake live TV". You totally can.
lopezandym ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:09:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This isn't true. As someone who lived in midtown NYC during TRL's peak, there were definitely live crowds indoors and outdoors during that time.
akesh45 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:20:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Carson fucking daly must have loved that schedule.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:44:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Remembering how 'over it' he seemed on that show, I'll bet he was just trying to get through until he got home to Tara Reid, who he was dating at the time.
pandalei ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:00:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That explains the Josie and the Pussycats movie.
kleptominotaur ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:14:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow! ! ! I watched this show all the time as a kid! LOL. I feel betrayed!
snarkyshan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:40:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This crushes my soul.
asuka_is_my_co-pilot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:32:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Whaaaaaat so the countdown was bs?
sunshine_rainbow ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:55 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My 2003 high school graduation gift from my parents was a trip to NYC, first thing I did was go to Times Square to see TRL and there was nothing there. It was a slap in the face.
just1moretyme ยท 59 points ยท Posted at 23:31:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was on "to catch a predator." Chris hansen is mean.
Gr33ny ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 00:59:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well don't try to diddle kids and Chris Hanson won't accuse you of being a kid diddler
FoximusMaximus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 07:23:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How comfy was the chair/sofa?
Take_the_cue ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:01:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How did you feel about your edit? Was the take down at the end scripted? Were the cookies home-made or store bought? Were the booze and condoms you "brought" props?
DeadCatsDoBounce ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 17:43:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
American pickers is real. Only deviation from the show is that they roll up in 3 vans instead of the 1 they show (for camera crew and extra space).
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:59:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read something about this show and used to watch it all the time. From what I read, the two guys don't actually drive to locations. They fly there then get in the van that's already there. Mike Wolf apparently is a total asshat and Danielle is never in their shops. My ex rode his motorcycle up there once and he said the place is very small and Danielle was nowhere around.
37214 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:43:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mike lives in Nashville, not the best reputation here. They have a shop here that mostly sells t-shirts
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:27:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The shop in Nashville on television looks like it's full of vintage items. The other shop does too but my husband said it's mostly full of T-shirts as well.
37214 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:43:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It has stuff, yes. Little if anything for sale other than shirts, though. Sometimes they have live music in it, definitely a tourist spot for them. Not saying it's bad, just not an antique store.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:56:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Right. My ex said he didn't see anything in there worth buying and he loves that kind of thing.
katiedid05 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, that kind of makes sense. It's probably cheaper to fly and if Mike has such a bad back, driving 3000 miles would be super bad for it. I've heard good things from people about them when they were in Upstate NY
[deleted] ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 23:59:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 03:34:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I loved you on the show! Hope things are okay now, re: needing to leave the show.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:51:10 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:50:21 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wow. I really do hope things get better from here.
molly__hatchet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:03:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A substitute teacher at my high school's son was a runner-up on the first season of that.
andwhatt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was that the one with Bella Henry?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:48:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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andwhatt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:40:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aww that's nice to hear. That's actually the only thing i know about the show haha, now i want to hear her voice
Booty_Is_Life_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:19:36 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You kind of remind me of my english teacher i had except without a beard. Another thing from the article it said you used two brushes to brush you hair is that true. Also very nice delorean
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:44 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Booty_Is_Life_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:12:54 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it still thin and fragile
MixingDrinks ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 00:08:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was a contestant on The Weakest Link (American version with the lady).
They told us beforehand that she picks on the ones she likes. She apparently loved me.
But, everything on that show is real. The questions and her quick responses. She was impressive.
Galoots ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 00:43:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I tried out for that show back in 2001 at a local casting call. I made it through the written test, the on- camera mock game, and the quick video interview. The tapes were then sent to the producers who made the decision on who to cast.
I was called a couple of weeks later, and told I had made it on to the show, and they would be in touch with transportation and hotel info. I was to be made available the 2nd and 3rd week of September. Fuck.
I was told they weren't looking for the brainiest exclusively, it was more like casting Gilligan's Island. They wanted Professors, but they also wanted Skippers - really good in one area, Gingers - eye candy, and Gilligans - "how the hell did this guy get on a gameshow?" I felt good about the quiz answers and I know I got everything in the mock game. I'm definitely not eye candy, I'm just hoping they didn't see me as a Gilligan.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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MixingDrinks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:01:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you might have the wrong show. :/
Missymay2002 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:06:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Huh. I wonder what show i'm thinking about, I was sure it was the weakest link.
Edit: I'm an idiot. the name of the game show I was thinking about was Russian roulette.
MixingDrinks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:09:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Weakest like was the trivia show where the lady would just say "You are the Weakest Link. Goodbye!" and then you walk off stage.
Unless they changed it later on. That's how the original was for many years.
UnholyZealot ยท 115 points ยท Posted at 15:59:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I worked on Amish Mafia. It was as real as you think.
Nomulite ยท 34 points ยท Posted at 16:13:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well honestly how do you make that shit up?
PsySom ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 16:40:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So completely real?!?
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 16:46:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sooooo
ApuFromTechSupport ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 16:19:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've never seen the show but I've seen commercials for it. Is it fake or...?
OneGoodRib ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 21:36:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's fake. I think half the people on it aren't even Amish, and the whole premise may have been entirely invented by a TV executive. I mean, I'm not 100% sure, but like 98% nothing about that show is genuine.
TonyBeFunny ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 16:41:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't multiple people say that show was bullshit. Also wasn't one of the guys not even Amish?
accidentlycelibate ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 18:07:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Exactly, nobody thinks it is real
san_serifs ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:10:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Half-Amish
John32070 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 16:49:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I watched it a few times. I can't believe that all that goes on and no one gets caught whether by regular law or Amish.
nhnolan ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 17:38:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm loving the idea of Amish law right now. It sounds like the panel of elders from a cult or something.
Show_Me-Your_Kitties ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:42:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So it was aladeen?
drunkenpinecone ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:09:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aladeen
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:19:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There is no such thing as the Mafia.
37214 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:31:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Best thing about that show was the commercials for it. Actual show was awful.
Captain_Swing ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:01:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I saw about 20 minutes and assumed it was a comedy mockumentary.
Dan_Berg ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:30:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
...so there's no Amish Paradise?
CBusin ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:08:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So it's as fake as McDonald's beef?
jdepps113 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:22:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No....McDonald's uses real beef.
cmgladeluxe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:27:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wow fuck that guy /s
psify ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:03:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And....
ohiocityplayer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you saying Lebonon Levy wasn't the bad ass he was portrayed to be in the show?
bruddahmacnut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:05:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
โTo ensure the safety of innocent Amish, select re-enactments of events must be used.โ Which therefore permits the showโs creators to use Knight Rider music and Unsolved Mysteries visual effects in every scene.
FoneTap ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:50:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So completely fake. Got it.
winplease ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:01:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
so pretty real then
Ebbboorsma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What I wanna know is how they even thought it would be half believable. Like, what kind of criminal lets a goddamn camera crew follow them around.
l_ours6588 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lebanon levi lives in the town next to me and is a huge tool. That show is a joke.
micromonas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:14:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So you mean completely fake?
Just_For_Da_Lulz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So not real at all then?
screenwriterjohn ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 17:20:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, back in 2001, I was working as a TV extra. While I was waiting in line to enter a studio to be a part of a studio audience, the show "Blind Date" was recruiting potential contestants from the pool of struggling actors. A lot of dating shows get sexy people from actors.
Lenos Jaywalking segment encouraged people to give dumb answers.
I was in an audience for a minor talk show and the "psychic" was just a production assistant. Anyone can present themself as a psychic in America. Interesting fact.
Sadrockman ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:49:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always thought that about jaywalking. I mean state capitols I can understand(how many adults remember what they learned in 4-6th grade),but things that were on the news a day or two before/current events still in the papers/talked about on the internet? C'mon.
missartteacher ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:57:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I figured that about Blind Date...loved to watch it, though
screenwriterjohn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:48:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Great show. So 2001.
beingaliveisawful ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 21:14:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Intervention is very real
HumanStain49 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:12:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Any experience? This is the show I want to read about on this thread
beingaliveisawful ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 06:54:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't really want to give the episode but a family member was featured and I was one of the intervention party. Family member was an alcoholic etc. My aunt set up the whole thing, sent in videos and stuff and the producers contacted her and flew in. Did all real interviews and filmed a family party. Nothing anybody said was scripted or forced. When being interviewed we were given questions but all the answers and stuff was legitimate. Our therapist lady was so nice. Then they payed for her rehab after we convinced her to go.
She's still sober 4 years later too so I don't regret doing it even though I didn't want to.
HumanStain49 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:40:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
So they paid your family member with fully-paid-rehab and also paid her for going to it? EDIT: clarification
beingaliveisawful ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:53:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm confused with the question. No one got paid except the rehab facility.
HumanStain49 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:09:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did the production pay for the rehab treatment?
beingaliveisawful ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:58:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes. None of us or my family member was paid with a check though. The rehab facility they sent her to was incredibly nice and that was their "payment".
Alpha1998 ยท 131 points ยท Posted at 16:40:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Local bar was on bar rescue. Fake bartenders, and wait staff. All scripted
DangerousPuhson ยท 91 points ยท Posted at 17:41:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a show called Mystery Diners that's been on for 11 seasons now that I'm 100% certain is staged. Every episode they catch some employee in a very elaborate sting operation that has got to be fake.
[deleted] ยท 36 points ยท Posted at 18:18:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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MrsMeteor ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:47:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know but I still watch it :(
TedsEmporiumEmporium ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:49:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't do that one anymore. I'll still watch Bar Rescue, though, because Taffer is out of his fucking mind.
Missymay2002 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:26:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Taffer pisses me off. I get that ritzy places often cheap out on their booze/food and the amount you get, but if you're revamping a dive bar in Bumblescum Alabama dainty salads and two drink maximum establishments are not going to bring in/keep customers.
TedsEmporiumEmporium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:49:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He doesn't have a good track record, that's for sure. I just love watching him have a near-stroke 10 times an episode.
dannyr ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 19:20:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I put MD on the same level as Operation Repo. Addictive train wreck tv, 99% fakery.
allthedifference ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:37:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seemed odd that Mystery Diners setup for a few days and always manage to catch employees in the act, sometimes elaborate schemes. After a few episodes, I stopped believing.
KHcactus ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:38:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I saw a show like that where the employee was stealing and pawning hams!
KickItNext ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 22:09:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember looking it up after one particularly dramatic episode, it's totally fake.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:47:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is. It says it in the end credits and if you google it. 100% fake.
PoppyPistachios ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:37:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friends and I watch Mystery Diners regularly. 100% faked, but a hell of a good time.
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baldeagle86 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:48:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read somewhere that it is indeed fake, and the owners bid on trying to get on the show though since it always spikes up business for a few weeks. Seems like an interesting marketing strategy.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:38:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Complete bullshit, just for your entertainment.
Fluteless ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:43:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like to think they're actual things happening over a series of longer than a few days, then reenacted by over dramatized actors. It makes me feel better.
allora_fair ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Russian one was my favourite
possiblysabrina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And then when the staff member goes into the surveillance room, they go straight in denial and start shouting and accusing and swearing at the store owner about it. The way they do that seems so strange, like it's set up.
stupidaesthetic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely. I don't think you have to work on that show to figure that out. I cringe every time the "offending employees" are brought in and get that classic shocked look on their face. It's almost fun to guess how they'll deliver this "What's going on?/What is this?" line.
itallblends ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 20:40:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The one they did near me was all the actual bartenders. They definitely played up the drama a bit and staged a freak out from one of the owners, but for the most part it's real. Just real superficial. The thing I wrote on the wall near the urinal 10 years ago is still there. The remodel was just what customers see when they walk in the bar. Also the owners changed the name of the bar back to the original name about 2 years later.
ProKrastinNation ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 18:19:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I swear that show gets faker every episode. The first couple seasons seem more believable but now it just seems like they're selling out hard
poochyenarulez ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 19:03:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
exactly what I've thought. Almost all the drama/fight scenes from the past season felt so fake and unmotivated.
MrMcWild ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:37:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
BUT JOHN TAFFER DID AN AMA AND SAID IT WAS REAL!?
bruddahmacnut ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:57:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His AMA. Wasn't real either. It was Irma, his assistant.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 21:36:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Sparky_PoptheTrunk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:27:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds exactly like my experience with rescued bars. A bit scripted and over dramatized but definitely fixed real problems and gave a cool remodel.
AryaStark20 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:12:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damnit! That's my favourite reality show.
whatev3691 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:40:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I worked on an episode of the show. It wasn't fake, so this person either is full of shit or the show has changed a lot in the past two years
Sparky_PoptheTrunk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went to a bar that was updated this year. Still seems real.
AryaStark20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:29:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank goodness.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:59:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dude I'm so pissed now. I loved that show
Sparky_PoptheTrunk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:28:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is a real show. A bit scripted, but definitely a real show. Been to a couple of the rescued bars.
Besnasty ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:00:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of my favorite food truck chefs was one chefs that come in and help the kitchen staff. He said that he didn't have too much of a say in the kitchen part of it but John Taffer was exactly like he's portrayed on the show. He said it was a good experience and would definitly do it again.
Wilerdsin ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 19:52:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am a freelance production assistant and have casted bars for this show. It is not fake.
Surly_Economist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Explain this then. This is a favorite bar of mine, and is extremely popular, crowded, and clean. It has rave reviews. Doesn't exactly seem like a good casting decision, if in fact the show is legit...
Sparky_PoptheTrunk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:21:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The shows real. Been to a couple places that have been rescued. They weren't necessarily terrible bars but the ones I went to needed some remodels and updating. Part of the show is scripted, but the rescues are real.
Surly_Economist ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:24:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is in no way an explanation for attempting to "rescue" a highly successful bar. Remodeling an already-successful bar is not a "real" rescue.
Sparky_PoptheTrunk ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:27:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wouldn't describe the bars I went to as highly successful at all. They did have real problems that were addressed. The remodels, menu updates and name changes were real. In my experience it was a real rescue.
gsr142 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:30:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
First season was decent and pretty believable. After that it got bad really fast. Hiring obvious actors for the owner to fire and pushing Smirnoff as a premium vodka killed that show for me.
CapitalG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:47:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Diageo never misses an opportunity to get their logo in a shot.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:45:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seriously? Thats actually surprising to me
Sparky_PoptheTrunk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:28:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is a real show. Been to a couple of the rescued bars.
MBTAHole ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:39:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bar Rescue is way too obvious about it. Every episode is basically the same
tommygunz007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:44:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was it heading for bankruptcy?
ConradBHart42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:36:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What kind of rescue are you looking for for a bar? Help, my bar is about to be consumed by lava flow from a newly formed volcano!
Jacob3443 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:10:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What..?! One of my favorite shows is scripted?! Damnit :'(
cannedcream ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Awwww. I like Bar Rescue. :(
firetyrtle ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:52:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was briefly in a Bar Rescue episode at a place several of my friends worked. The before stuff was filmed on night that the restaurant was supposed to be closed. Taffer was such a jerk on and off camera. The whole experience was awful for everyone involved.
lustywench99 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:53:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is a shame. We go to shitty places and always ask what would Taffer do and pray he will show up to save the day.
One of his bartender experts, Lisamarie Joyce, is the daughter in law of a judge in JC, MO.
Actually, Corey from Pawn Stars also pissed all over the bar area in one of the bars we wish would get taken over.
It's all come full circle.
Steffinily ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of my favorite LA bars (friends down there are regulars) was on that show. While it was heavily scripted, their bar did get a face lift. Its awesome now.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
God Dammit!
(โฏยฐโกยฐ๏ผโฏ๏ธต โปโโป
smiles134 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about pirates bar
Surly_Economist ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They have a habit of picking bars that aren't actually struggling to begin with. They even tried to do their show at Hopleaf, one of my favorite bars here in Chicago. This bar is always packed to the brim, and has amazing reviews for its food and drink. It's also known as one of the top craft beer bars in Chicago.
Lokifin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:48:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate the main guy on that show. I can't stand being around people who always look and sound like they're yelling on a WWF match.
gjrabbit ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had the same, local bar was in an episode (Ramona, CA, Mollys > Way point saloon). I can say the opposite, I was friends with the staff and everything going on was pretty real. I can't say the shooting but we went to the stress test and grand reopening. Was pretty cool to see. Most of it felt very real and unscripted. There was a few things like on Grand opening night they got like 5 shots of John walking out of the finished bar. Other then that it was pretty real.
Rickrollyourmom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:50:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aww that's disappointing
danstem ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:56:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Local bar was on Bar Rescue. Knew lots of people who worked there. Went to the stress test. Not scripted. Was legitimately a shit show.
VanillaBear378 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:07:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Local bar was on Bar Rescue, Real bartenders and the Real owners.
s0lace ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:33:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just talked to a friend whose band played at a bar that was on bar rescue. The bartenders all said the show was legit. NOT FAKE.
Trust_Me_Im_Right ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not really surprised by that one at all. I'm almost certain I saw the same actress/waitress in 2 different episodes. It was a while ago so idk which episodes but she was Latino and got fired from one place
Sparky_PoptheTrunk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:23:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Been to a couple Bar Rescue bars and the show is real. Parts are scripted, but the remodels, name changes, and menu updates are real. The bars on the show sometimes aren't necessarily terrible bars, but the places I went did need remodels and updates. Real show though.
VROF ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:47:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love that show. This is disappointing. I thought at least the staff was real
americancorn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:48:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on this show as a recon patron, my friend who worked on it told me to come that night. the bartenders were the real ones and they tried to create drama but it wasn't scripted-scripted
AbrahamsBeard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:19:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn didn't expect that. I assumed that was the one real one.
WeWantBootsy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:12:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know they invented everything about the two bars in Youngstown, OH. The owners of those places trash the Hell out of that show. The way they tell it, they were badgered into being on it and agreed because it would be free publicity. But then they were given roles to play, scripted dialogue, and had to act like they were idiots.
[deleted] ยท 38 points ยท Posted at 17:37:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Throwaway because I'm probably not allowed to talk about this, but I was on American Ninja Warrior. I did not get shown, but I can tell you that nothing was rigged.
tc3590 ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:06:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Since they didn't show you on tv, and you said nothing was fake, I'm sure they wouldn't care if you told people what you know.
mfg_colour ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:15:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
if he signed an NDA it really doesn't matter what he said
tc3590 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea I really I have no idea. I think I was just trying to sound smart probobly. Who fucking knows.
37214 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:39:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How far did you make it?
123flip ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 17:03:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My wife and I are professional house flippers and we did a "sizzle reel" for HGTV, produced by a production company we were signed with. Suffice it to say, about 95% of the production was scripted, with the exception of the fact that we actually owned the houses that were featured. We didn't like the story-lines that the production company scripted (they made us look bad), so we only agreed to do the reel if we could have creative input. Ultimately, we decided that it wasn't worth having our reputation destroyed just to do a TV show (the contract essentially says that they can make us look bad and we have no recourse) and we broke our contract with the production company.
Long story short -- almost everything about the reel we did was scripted, and the goal was to create as much drama as possible, even where absolutely none existed.
houseofleopold ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:23:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm depressed about the bad hgtv reviews.
hopperonfire ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 19:01:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend was on the xfactor where they made up a story about how she is doing it for her dad, truth was her dad was dead but she didn't really know him. Left her mom when she was .
bruddahmacnut ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 02:06:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
โฆwhen she was what?? Don't leave us hanging!
[deleted] ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:27:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I could be wrong, but I took the "." as meaning dad left mom pretty much at conception? I could definitely be inferring too much
Booty_Is_Life_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:23:39 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe he died while writing and we will never know the end
ASOIAFFan213 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:26:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well damn, was she successful in the show? Like did she get through to the later rounds?
9c9bs ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 19:04:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't know if I'm too late, but a girl from my high school was on MTV Made. She was a tomboy that they were making into a prom queen. They got the dentist to take her braces off for the show to complete the makeover and then put them back on when they wrapped shooting.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:35:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That would SUCK. One of the best moments of my adolescence was the day my braces were finally removed.
Maybe enough cash would dull the pain of having them put right back on again, but ugh.
kitehighcos ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 07:43:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
jesus thats torture
Intrepid00 ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 00:28:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't help but notice no one wants to admit being in cops.
Diarygirl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:06:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know! I thought there would be at least one.
yetiduds ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:19:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My truck will be on cops, the local night were having break at the gas station. I knew them both said hi. Chatted and the crew was there eating the pizza lol
ozmaweezerman ยท 25 points ยท Posted at 17:24:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine was in a court room show. It was completely staged. It wasn't Judge Judy but something similar. Another friend of my was approached by producers of Cheaters, who asked if he wanted to be on the show. When he told them he was single they said it didn't matter, they would cast his "girlfriend" later
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:03:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to watch Cheaters all the time and thought it was real.
missartteacher ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:07:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me too...I'm saddened by the truth.....
ozmaweezerman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:21:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So did I until my friend told me that
eromitlab ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:09:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I work with a guy who was a photog for Cheaters when he worked in Dallas. That show just makes me laugh with how far up their own ass they get trying to play it super-serious.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:30:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So was the host getting stabbed real?
ozmaweezerman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh, I don't know anything about that. My friend was out at a bar in Dallas and was approached. He had no reason to lie so I trusted his story
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:04:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh i'm not saying he lied. I had always wondered if it was real.
catjuggler ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:49:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No not cheaters!
Booty_Is_Life_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 14:53:57 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man i thought cheaters was real
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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ozmaweezerman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:48:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe it was a mixture? When they ran out of real material maybe they hired filler stuff from actors
[deleted] ยท 73 points ยท Posted at 17:16:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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ChooseWisely72 ยท 21 points ยท Posted at 17:53:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That show is awesome.
WillCreary ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:44:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He seems pretty monotone. He's not the greatest TV personality, but I love watching him mess with people.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:43:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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WillCreary ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 22:05:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As long as it's nothing like Chris Angel I'm happy. What a tired old routine he has.
Purdaddy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:28:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
His monotony and dead pan facial expressions are what help sell it to the "participants".
Globalhawk123 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:48:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Any show on TruTV scares me good to hear it is real, it's a good show fam loves it
El_Nasty ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:22:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Carbonaro Effect just seems so fake to me, can't get into it
smokky ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:48:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love that show. Thanks for not spoiling it for me.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:55:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to watch that show when I had cable. How does he do those tricks?
SambucaWd ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:15:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Magic, duh.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:28:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
sigh
Jacob3443 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:11:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I find it odd that everytime he does his 'magic' the camera pans away then goes back to him after.
Jillthedillpickill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea!
redplanetlover ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:54:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Two of my daughters were in a game show called Kidstreet when they were in elementary school (about 30 years ago) and even though they had the highest score somehow the dweebs posting the scores screwed up and had them come in second. It was never corrected and was aired that way. The show had an annoying host with a plastic personality.
uwaveguide ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:07:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wanted to be on that show so bad when i was a kid. I even did an audition with my brother but he was too young :(
wildeyes ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:44:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man, I used to watch that show every day! I wanted to be on it so badly but I was an only child until I was 11. :(
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 21:47:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't been on a reality show, but when The Bachelor Canada was looking for ladies I was sent the call... from my agent. Looking for actors and models, certain 'looks', certain socioeconomic/ethnic backgrounds, length of engagement if cast, etc. Really took the wind out of the 'regular girls looking for love' sails.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 23:45:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My boss is going on "buying alaska." He currently owns a home which will be featured. He is not looking to purchase a new home. He was given a scrip. They basically payed him by giving him free tickets to all the tourist attractions him and his family can visit in 2 days. He has lived here, Juneau Alaska, for two years. Basically nothing on that show is real.
Also the alaska bush people shop at costco and live in the hotel in Hoonah, Alaska. We see them in town all the time and there boat is frequently parked at Auke harbor, here in Juneau. Whole show is basically fake.
MZM204 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 16:03:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That Alaska Bush show is an absolute joke anyway. I've caught a few minutes on TV here and there and those morons get themselves into idiotic situations and make mistakes that a rookie boy scout could easily avoid. I'm assuming it's just for TV drama, because if they're that stupid and really had to survive out there they'd die.
BiteYourOwnTongue ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:48:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Apparently one of the only authentic Alaskan shows is 'The Last Alaskans'. It's a really beautiful show though.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:25:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah they aren't surviving they get all there supplies from town.
Mafiya_chlenom_K ยท 151 points ยท Posted at 15:20:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't on a reality tv show, but I was in a commercial when I was somewhere between 10 and 13 years old. It was a local politician (or something) cooking burgers on the grill, talking to the camera blah, blah, blah. At the end, the group of kids around him had to say "Right Rog!" (short for Roger). Yeah, the burgers weren't real. There was no fire. It took a good 3 hours. I was starving. None of the kids were really happy to be there, or happy to be teased by fake burgers. We didn't really understand what we were agreeing with, etc. Fuckin' Roger.
This is the reason I hate seeing kids in commercials and such. You're using those children. They don't know what they're doing. All they know is "I GET TO BE ON TV, YAY!" It's a sleazy tactic, and based on my own experience.. no compensation (I just wanted a fuckin burger, man!). However, this was a very long time ago so maybe things have changed.
Superdan01 ยท 20 points ยท Posted at 16:39:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Were you in a town called Danville? If so, there's a local doctor that would like that info.
Mafiya_chlenom_K ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 16:42:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
At the time, I remember we took a short bus trip to be at the person's home for the filming.. and I was too young to care what city/township we were in. Based on a quick google search, there is no "Danville" in my state, so I don't think that was it.
4zeezer ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:03:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's alluding to Phineas and Ferb. It's a joke.
DerpSherpa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:51:03 on July 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Danville, VA?
Jakester5112 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:30:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Danville, California?
NineteenthJester ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:31:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Danville, Illinois?
MrMcWild ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:27:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've been to a Big Boy there. I don't think there's another one in Illinois.
jabberlope ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:38:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Danville, is that you?
Lucky_leprechaun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
aka Beverly Hills NorCal
Jakester5112 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:09:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sort of... Nobody famous lives there expect for Chesley Sullenberger. There's a lot of wealthy people though.
12LetterName ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:09:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Blackhawk is technically part of Danville. There's a few famous people there... (I think Sully actually lives in BH, doesn't he?)
Jakester5112 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm actually not sure. I saw him at a restaurant once though. There's quite a few athletes who live there too.
UpsetUnicorn ยท 39 points ยท Posted at 15:29:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck Roger!
Li0nhead ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 16:18:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That would end his political career.
bruddahmacnut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuck Rog!
bool_idiot_is_true ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:05:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What? You didn't get any form of compensation? As far as I'm aware actors get paid no matter their age (my brother certainly did when he acted). So unless it was some volunteer work your parents roped you into something seems skeevy.
Mafiya_chlenom_K ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:37:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
It was too long ago for me to remember the details (we're talking in terms of decades here), but I know I wasn't compensated.. and I'm certain my parents weren't compensated as they didn't know it happened until my brother and I told them later that day. It would probably be justified legal as "volunteering" .. but that's just CYA.
We were in summer camp (day to day, not "drop 'em off and pick 'em up in a month"). Parents likely signed a waiver at the start saying we'd be taking trips (so no permission slip was needed). The counselors loaded us into the bus, said we were going to shoot a commercial.
Also, just to note...
lets not pretend that people in that profession are the peak of moral and ethical treatment of others.
Edit: Just called up my brother and he confirms that we weren't compensated, and the parents didn't know about it.
tanyanubin ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:27:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tons of people, including kids, are used at low or no pay if they're nonunion, and the shoot is nonunion. Happens all the time. Even union kids are overused, because parents are bribed on set. It can be a dirty business, if the parent is not right there watching carefully. Otherwise, it can be tons of fun and lead to great, unique experiences. (my kids did it for years as their after-school hobby.)
toxicgecko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:51:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wasn't there an article about one of the babies used in Harry Potter not getting paid? or getting paid next to nothing?
Edit: he was paid ยฃ40 Link which was about $70 I think
tanyanubin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:10:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A baby in a movie or a TV show is an extra โ no dialogue. If they get paid, there will be no residuals.
algag ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:57:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was in commercials between 10-13 and I don't think I ever made less than $125/hr. :b
mr_lemonpie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:32:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean really gotta blame the parents putting kids in that situation.
Mafiya_chlenom_K ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:33:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Why blame the parents who knew nothing about it?
mr_lemonpie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How would parents not know if there kid is in a commercial, surely they had to sign a form...I guess I'm just picturing parents like this as I could never imagine whoring out my kids for some commercial cash.
Mafiya_chlenom_K ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:00:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/4r7elb/people_who_have_been_on_reality_tv_shows_whats/d4z2h5j
mr_lemonpie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn that's crazy but I was mostly talking about children in commercials in general. I'll tell ya what though, I wouldn't let an image of my kid go on tv if I wasn't warned beforehand. Make them shoot that whole damn thing again.
TheNumberMuncher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:39:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fuckin' Rog.
throwawaydance3 ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 16:48:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I worked on a popular, long-running, reality dance competition series.
It was refreshingly non-rigged.
The producers certainly finessed things to get certain couples to dance together, or highlight drama where it occurred. But they couldn't edit around whether or not someone could really dance and the winners were ultimately determined by viewer vote.
nhnolan ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 17:42:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So, was this a show where contestants thought they could dance?
fezfrascati ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:16:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if we worked on the same show, but the one in which I worked on, I completely agree. However, it was obvious the producers favored certain talent to win.
PartyPorpoise ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 18:01:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Went to go see the reveal of a new house for Extreme Makeoever Home Edition. They did several takes of the crowd cheering and the "move that bus!" scene.
QSector ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 19:02:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was heavily involved in an episode of EMHE. So much bullshit behind the scenes. They spent months building and finishing the actual house. So much is staged to make it look complete. The builders cover so much of the expenses that many of the ones who did the show filed for bankruptcy. Most of the production crew are assholes. I didn't have any issues with the talent, in fact I thought Ty was pretty nice to everyone, especially all the volunteers. The volunteers are legit and work their asses off.
Missymay2002 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 02:14:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The real shitty thing I learned about that show is the vast majority of the people that receive those homes either have to resell them because they can't pay for the insane property taxes or don't have the money for the upkeep. Seeing how most of the people in that show were usually poverty stricken due to having sick children/not being able to work it's not really that much of a surprise. It's still pretty shitty though.
BloodAngel85 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:21:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A family in a town 15 minutes from mine had to sell their house because they couldn't afford. They did all they could to cut costs but in the end it was't enough. It's a law office now since the town is right next to the hood and nobody wants to live there
PartyPorpoise ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:58:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. And a lot of people think "Oh, they can sell those houses and get a bunch of money!", but it's not very easy to sell a luxurious house in a low income area. Anyone who can afford to buy and maintain that kind of home will want to live someplace nicer, after all, so the houses don't even sell for that much.
duckfuckinme ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 16:09:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
True, thereโs no script, but we have writers who craft plot lines, twisting and tweaking footage to create conflict and shape a story. Oh, and we redo things all the time. On Biggest Loser, the contestants have to walk up to the scale about five times so the producer can capture all the angles on camera.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:18:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel a little badly for them. The women are in sport bras, and the men are bare chested.
I don't know if you would be in a position to know, but was the "Water Loading" controversy ever real?
accidentlycelibate ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:04:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not more than one camera?
delmar42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:26:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I stopped watching "The Biggest Loser" because of the stupid junior-high drama, and also because the contestants were encouraged to lose a ridiculous (and mostly unsustainable) amount of weight in such a short amount of time. It's no wonder most of the contestants gain it all back. What a travesty of a show.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:03:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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RadioactiveAppendix ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:04:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love Antiques Roadshow! I just want to see someone be surprised by a ridiculously high amount and immediately scream, "SOLD!"
justanothersong ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:06:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I like to see people find out things are worth less than they were expecting, especially when you can tell they scooped it up from an elderly family member or neighbor with intent of profiting.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 19:23:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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MermaidMajic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:58:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was paid $100 to be in the "audience". After the contestants were done they had me and everyone else that was there to get paid cheer and clap and edited into several different episodes. It was fun.
delmar42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Heck, I'd sit in the audience for free. I love watching this show.
MermaidMajic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:41:17 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would have done it for free too. It was fun.
didgetalnomad ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:41:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The best reality show series the is Pioneer House, Frontier House, etc., series by public television. Those were awesome. I met one of the participants from Frontier House and he said it was legit.
LittlePlasticStar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:24:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There needs to be more of those shows! The British versions are great too.
didgetalnomad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:48:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I saw one of the British ones - Victoria House.
andwhatt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:36:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There was stuff online about one of them and it said that it wasn't legit. Frontier i think? The one where two families fought with each other and both the mums were awful? One family was really rich and the other couple ended up divorcing and the dad moved to the filming spot? There was a third family too, started with a man and his dad and then he got married and his wife moved in.
I don't think much of it is faked though. I loved those shows.
didgetalnomad ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:39:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That was Frontier House, I think. It was awesome. The rich family had those spoiled-ass children who hated the fronteir. But eventually they grew fond of it and were crying when it was time to go. And one of the older guys was so in love with the lifestyle that he was seriously talking about living out their permanently. It's like he had gone mad, as he was saying that eventually he would make amends with the rich folk, as if they would live there too.
andwhatt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:42:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think he probably wasn't right for tv, he did seem a bit odd, even said he hated his stepkids.
I remember the rich girls wandering around in the petticoats, complaining but yeah by the end they were saying their superficial lives were boring and empty
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:01:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is anyone from Reddit has been on Impractical jokers or Nathan for you? (They are the only reality shows that I like)
Randy__Bobandy ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:45:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They filmed an episode at the Sam Ash music store my brother worked at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JybA8zHmzx0
From what he told me, there did not appear to be any trickery in terms of being fake.
Booty_Is_Life_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:35:17 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So its real because i really like the show and want it to be real
NocturnalQuill ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:51:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Based on Dumb Starbucks making headlines, I think it's safe to say that Nathan For You is real
runninhillbilly ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 18:24:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Storage Wars
"Hm...some old mattresses....a wooden chair...and....OH WAIT! WHAT'S THIS?! A VINTAGE 1916 HARLEY-DAVIDSON?!"
ltalix ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:01:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You forgot the commercial break before the reveal.
Jillthedillpickill ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:44:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder if Dave Hester the YUUUUP guy is really the asshole he is portrayed to be. I mean he owns pugs how terrible can he be?
FoximusMaximus ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:36:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did you know that any asshole can just buy a pug? Disgusting.
Jillthedillpickill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:46:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's preposterous. There should be a nice test or something.
thunder75 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:21:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Broken Playstation? That's a $75 dollar bill right there.
bradeo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:12:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wait so people don't store really expensive items with all the other crap they forget about
BubbaChanel ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:47:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Twenty bucks ALL DAY LONG!!!
theweatherman0_o ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:54:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on a local TV show when I was younger where you get to run around the toy store and keep what you can bag in 30 seconds.
It was legit. I got the 30 seconds (no do overs, only 1 take) and made a beeline for the electronics. A PS2, Gameboy Advance and tons of games later, I was a happy 8 year old.
delmar42 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:52:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember when I was a kid that one of the big things was being a winner of a particular game show, and that meant you could run through a grocery store and keep whatever you could pile into carts within a certain amount of time. Adult me would love that. I would go nutty in the meat department, go through the aisles with perishable stuff, see what I could get in health/beauty, and (if there was time) go through frozen food. I'm not against fresh produce at all, but it would go rotten before I could get through it all (meat is easier to freeze).
NoviceApproach ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:42:23 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to love Supermarket Sweep. I always yelled "Go to the meat dept!!!"
Booty_Is_Life_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:36:57 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is cool
theweatherman0_o ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:48 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thnx
[deleted] ยท 88 points ยท Posted at 15:44:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
A friend of mine auditioned for America's Got Talent and he seemed pretty convinced that it was rigged. The auditions with the celebrity judges are not the real auditions. The 'real' auditions are done before that, where producers decide who will actually get to appear before the judges.
Edit: I'm not necessarily saying that I think it's rigged, just that he felt that way. He didn't get very far, so I think he may have had a chip on his shoulder about the whole thing.
MrPepesilva ยท 278 points ยท Posted at 16:43:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I wouldn't call that rigged I'd call it weeding out actual crap.
Big_Bank ยท 81 points ยท Posted at 16:55:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
American idol Did the same thing. There were a couple rounds of auditions before you got to sing in front of the celebrity judges. That way they could put through anyone who would be entertaining (either good or bad). I don't think that means anything is fake, there is no way they could have every single person audition in front of the judges one at a time.
agent_scully2084 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 18:33:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I had the same experience with my Canadian Idol audition:
First group audition in front of producers, and if you make it through that, individual audition/camera test in front of producers. If you make it through that one, then you get to be in front of TV judges a day or two later.
I made it to the TV judges, but got nervous and did not make it on TV. My goal was to be Canada's version of William Hung, and I managed to convey my intentions to the producers; there was a lot of subtle communication that boiled down to "Put me on TV because I have the potential to be funny!" Because of my nerves, I wasn't hilariously bad, I was just bad, and that's not good TV.
whinecube ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 19:18:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I stopped watching American Idol because it was clear to me that many of the "bad" singers they let through had either autism or some sort of mental disability. I do not know how the producers of these shows sleep at night. They're mean people.
camelz4 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:50:26 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I remember I used to watch that show until one day my mom was watching it with me and Simon made his "bush baby" comment about a contestant with big eyes. She was horrified and forbid me from watching it after that.
chemowasabi ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:06:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think I remember them showing Clay Aiken on the weeding-out panel in one of the recent seasons.
bobby8375 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:12:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sure that wasn't the episode of the Office?
lopezandym ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:10:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Went to high school with a girl who appeared on an Audition show for American Idol. They definitely put her through because she was so bad.
batsofburden ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:59:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They show that on the show though, so it's not really a secret.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thats not a secret, they showed those pre-audtions once or twice.
SomeRandomUserGuy ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 17:06:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except for some of the crap, to make it interesting.
StephentheGinger ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 17:39:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This. If everyone went right to the judges they would be there for hours and hours. This way they can screen out the mediocre singers, and the slightly bad ones, while sending through the great ones and some hilariously bad ones
toxicgecko ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:53:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's more like , find some amazing talent but also send through people to embarrass themselves for our entertainment.
2_Headed_Cat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:09:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
More like weeding out the boring acts that were just okay; they sent plenty of acts through that were entertainingly bad, and they rejected acts that were good, but not good enough to go to Vegas and not interesting enough to be on TV.
tyrannosaurus_racks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:40:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To be fair, there ate most certainly crappy acts that perform before the judges. The producers elect based on entertainment value as well, not just how good the act is.
infernal_llamas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or mid-range stuff. I'd say they want 50% funny crap and 50% decent contestants. Funny and shit makes good TV mediocre does not.
skatchawan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yup , and when you think that 14000 people show up to audition at each location, there is no way in hell 4 people could see them all.
ckillgannon ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 16:15:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not really rigged, though; just deceptive.
screenwriterjohn ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 17:49:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No offensive, but that should be obvious. The celebs don't want to spend all day going thru every act in the tristate area. Just the best and worst. American Idol did the same.
Fawkz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:35:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah like the celebrity judges are there 12 hours a day for a week listening to a bunch of peasants non-stop? Yeah right, this isn't even deception cause it's so painfully obvious
PM_ME_LEGAL_PAPERS ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:45:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait, so the people with absolutely cringe-worthy performances agree to get embarrassed on national television? How much do they pay them to do that?
CallSignIceMan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:26:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They probably just think they were good enough to make it to the judges
al-xicon ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:23:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone I worked with was on American's Got Talent and he wasn't even trying to audition. They found him on YouTube and paid to fly him out and put him up so he could be on the show. He knew from the beginning he wasn't going to make it to the next round, they just wanted the "shock factor" for good TV.
Nick730 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:17:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That goes for literally every talent competition. It's not rigging anything, it would be impossible for the judges of those shows to see EVERY applicant.
Pascalwb ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:28:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's widely known.
grooveunite ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:39:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My band was courted for several seasons and there was never any tryout. There's a YouTube video of our "audition" however. We decided against I because of the wording in the contract. They would own image and audio rights "for all time and throughout space". Decided we were doing better on our own. Bad business.
kbgames360 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:21:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Watching clips from this season, I'm convinced it's fake. The episode highlights on YouTube especially are almost all unbelievable.
KingMong ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:42:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
thats no secret and its smart, the actual judges dont have time to sit infornt of 10k really shit people, they pick good people, and a few crazies for entertainment, its actually kinda sick
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:11:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's just got the first round. After that you are in front of the team judges, and the phone in voting is run by an independent company.
optcynsejo ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 18:08:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend who was on King of the Nerds. He said that (in his season at least) everyone was super friendly with each other in real life. Whenever the show needed "drama" it was all an act.
ninjanomad196 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:48:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I miss that show :/
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:20:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I'm sad it got canceled. I liked it a lot.
ninjanomad196 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:23:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me too. Colby was my favorite contestant.
redhawkinferno ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:39:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Searched the whole thread for a KotN post. Glad it's not something super terrible. Funny thing is, I think the drama of season 3 made a lot of people lose interest. Was getting sick of dealing with it on the sub that's for sure.
optcynsejo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:07:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I only watched a few episodes to support my friend (reality TV isn't my thing). But every now and then he still meets up with people from the show informally at cons or Renaissance fests. From what I get, everyone seems to have enjoyed their time on the show.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:15:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which season? I watch KOTN every year when it comes on.
Burt-Macklin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:50:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Except this year, because it was cancelled..
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:50:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Aw, man! I liked that show.
Burt-Macklin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:46:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me, too. I always thought it was cheap enough to produce that they'd keep it going.
optcynsejo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:20:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Season 3.
[deleted] ยท 40 points ยท Posted at 16:47:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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StopLoading ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 19:18:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So I actually tried out for this season of master chef. I obviously didn't make the show but I made it to California where they do constant interviews and psychological evaluations. And not to mention your stuck at the hotel all day with almost nothing to do.
But talking to the producers they look for the best story and they look for people to fill their character rolls. While I was watching the beginning of the show where they cook for Ramsey I was always curious if they would pick the cook who cooked the best dish or the best story. And they honestly picked the best story over the better home cook more often than not.
It really pissed me off because the friends you made on the show you know should have moved on but instead got kicked because of a young girl who has a great story. Good for her don't get me wrong, but I can't watch that show anymore.
[deleted] ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 22:20:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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ChinookNL ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:54:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh man, I love Masterchef Australia they have such great judges and no drama/beef(the fighting kind) at all.
jockc ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:32:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Masterchef New Zealand same thing. So much better to watch, the contestants get along and like each other. They are much better sports when they win and lose. US and Canada Masterchef is all about fake competition / drama bullshit.
Con_sept ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The contestants are major bros to each other. Very much all in the same boat and pitted against challenges instead of their rivals.
The results would be weighed by the producers of course. You can tell they're picking people for more reasons than cooking ability, tear jerking and so on, but at least there's no snarky drama.
DerpSherpa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:54:24 on July 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm interested in hearing more about the psych evals please!
StopLoading ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:35:10 on July 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, but since you asked here is what they do.
You talk to this psychologist and the first time you see him or her they just make sure that mentally you are stable and don't have any mental disorders that you don't know of. They don't want you to hurt any of the judges.
Then they will bring you back again and ask you all of these questions and scenarios. And they even put you in front of a "crowd" with cameras and lights shining on you asking you questions. It was like a little mock cooking competition. So that way you could feel how 60 minutes feel (and that time just flies). Also just to make sure you can handle the pressure of being on TV and a competition at the same time. They don't want you cussing ever other word because you have a character roll to fulfill.
It's definitely an experience I'll never forget, but as far as trying out for TV shows again, I would pass. It's too much of a hassle, and not to mention I needed to take a lot of time off of work and almost lost my job due to this show. If you have any more questions I'd love to answer them! Hopefully I'll answer them sooner rather than a week later lol
DerpSherpa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:07:15 on July 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you so much for responding!
StopLoading ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:28 on July 18, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah not a problem! It's always a pleasure!
schewbacca ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 19:27:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think in masterchef they pick ones that can sell cookbooks. The last winners have been a Mexican food chef, dessert chef, Italian food chef, Asian food chef and so on.... They don't want to sell the same cookbooks, so the winners food specialty is always different from previous winner. This year will probably be a cajun chef, bbq chef, or a Cuban chef.
jonosvision ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 02:13:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I fucking knew there was a reason why Tommy didn't win. I fucking loved him! That Mexican chick wasn't nearly as good as he was.
andyrosenberg ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:54:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tommy is my favorite contestant from any show I ever watched!! I love Tommy!
Windigo24Creative ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:35:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tommy was the best! "I am creole honey!"
intellectualarsenal ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 18:22:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know that the american hell's kitchen is heavily scripted and edited.
House923 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 21:01:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read a blog of somebody who ate at Hells Kitchen and they were disappointed at how normal it was. You sign a waiver at the beginning saying your meal, wine and bread are paid for, but you have to agree to be filmed and that you're not guaranteed to get a meal.
They said aside from the fact that they drank more wine than they should have, and maybe seeing Ramsay yell like twice, it felt like a completely normal restaurant.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:43:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love Gordon Ramsay but I don't like Masterchef.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:34:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When Ramsay is actually doing stuff related to cooking, rather than hosting reality competition shows, he's pretty awesome.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:28:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think he's a pretty cool guy and I bet he's an awesome chef.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:51:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen only excerpts of The F Word but it's pretty solid.
TV work like his videos on scrambled eggs, pork roast, pork belly, etc, are really good. He's awesome when playing the role of a down-to-earth chef; what I don't like is when he sells himself out for bogus TV drama instead because it generates more ratings...
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:52:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've watched The F Word too but I don't like that one either. I got spoiled watching Kitchen Nightmares. He's really a down to earth guy from the interview I watched. He loves what he does and he loves his family. He said he is still very much in love with his wife. He came from nothing and made something of himself. Have to admire that.
joalr0 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:01:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From what I've heard from other replies, real.
UltimateInferno ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:32:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ask him yourself when another of his AMAs appeared. On my time on Reddit (which is not long) I saw two AMAs on him.
throw-away_catch ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:00:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There was actually one a couple of days ago
WeWantBootsy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:13:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In this thread, people have said they're as close to 100% as you can get.
jonosvision ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:13:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just posted this in another area of this comment section, but I had to laugh the other day when the competition had them making cupcakes I believe, and magically as soon as they came out of the oven they were able to be iced.
When in reality, they'd need to be cooled before the icing was applied to keep them from melting. No off-hand mention of a blast freezer or anything, just out of the oven and then the icing.
CustardBloodyCream ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:02:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone above said it was real
justanotherepic ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:09:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
About as real as reality tv gets.
fuzzygroove ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're mentioned above, his shows seem to be the only actual 'reality' shows made
melodyponddd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:01:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I wouldn't be surprised if the American version of Hell's Kitchen was fake. Just because there is a HUGE difference between the American one and the UK one. The UK one is a little more calmer and while Ramsay has raised his voice a couple of times it's not NEARLY as dramatic as the American one where the owners blow up, walk out or have Ramsay doing his "GET OUT!" Bit.whoops! got my shows mixed up!
Hingl_McCringleberry ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:55:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think you're confusing two of GR's shows. Hell's Kitchen is a cooking competition, Kitchen Nightmares is the one where he confronts the owners of a poorly run establishment
melodyponddd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:00:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You're absolutely right. THat's what I get for responding to a comment when I'm half asleep. Thanks for the correction.
Quilled ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:00:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hell's Kitchen is pretty rigged, but there is spontaneous stuff too. The guests are getting smashed, due to the open bar, because the chefs spend so much time making food. The food the guests receive is usually cold, but the guests doesn't care cause they're drunk and have waited for 3-4 hours.
almostrambo ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 20:44:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In other words, how real is UnREAL?
Seriously, Do people like Rachel and Quinn really exist? Madison too, the PA on the rise.
C_D_M ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 21:13:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I actually love UnReal cause I work in reality tv. The overall idea of it is pretty spot on. There are people like Rachel and Quinn but not nearly as explosive or dramatic.
Crew banging other crew members, way too real....
The PA stuff with Madison doesn't happen, PA's are looked down on to a point of non-existence
SOURCE: Work in Reality TV
KitKatMasterJapan ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:39:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Love that show!
idontwantafanta ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 23:06:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rule of thumb: if money at stake, real. If not, not real.
Also almost every single interview is completely fed or scripted.
Source: i work on tons of them.
Baseballmom2014 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 00:39:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My daughter's classmate is on the upcoming season of My Big Fat American Gypsy Wedding. She's the girl in the candy dress if you've seen the previews.
It is 100% staged.
She is not Romanichal.
Her mother tried to force the school to cancel Homecoming because it conflicted with the "sweet sixteen" party the producers set up for her. The party was set up to make it seem like her mom was trying to arrange a marriage for her. They flew in boys who the producers had hired to pose as suitors for her. She made a big stink when the majority of students at the school refused to attend.
The show has already aired in Britain, and she's gotten completely called out on social media for how fake it was.
So, yes, as we already knew from so many other TLC gems, this one's fake, too.
Tallthrowaway28 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:14:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know an entire family that has been on the show. They've had 3 separate episodes I believe (I've only seen 2). Everything is 100% fake on the show. One episode a couple is getting married. The mom on the guys side and the mom on the girls side are in reality a mother and daughter lol. The things they were fighting about in another episode weren't even actual traditions. Show is 1000% fake and they only do it for the money.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:14:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard that many of the people on the Big Fat American Gypsy shows are being told they "might be" romany/romanichal/Irish Traveller in ancestry. Was this ever told to your friend?
Baseballmom2014 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:31:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure - this was my daughter's classmate, and it sounds like the mom was the one who approached the producers with the intent of getting her daughter some screen time. It wouldn't shock me, to be honest!
DancingGreenman ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:20:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Realty Shows - Rigged or Not Rigged
Not Rigged
Semi-Rigged*
Rigged
*Semi-Rigged: in the case of Pawn Stars, the items are real, the customers selling/pawning items are even real, but the shop isn't. While, yes, there really is a Gold and Silver pawn shop in Vegas, and yes, the external shots are real, the internal shots are a set and the sale is a reenactment of the real sale which has already happened or not happened. The items have been vetted and researched already which is why Rick often knows so much random stuff just off the top of his head, and sometimes they actually seek the items out because in all honesty if they filmed the shop all day, every day, waiting for something cool to come in, the overhead would be insane. It's also rumored that the conflicts between the cast members are scripted.
In the case of Undercover Boss and What Would You Do?, it's all real but they will intentionally seek out situations that will get the most excitement. They'll select people via surveys and polls for WWYD to get people who haven't seen the show or haven't seen much of it, and in UB they'll pick locations that are high volume or tasks that are really stressful and tough and not indicative of what an actual newbie would be doing. Like the Boston Market episode, they selected a location with an employee that is really negative about and toward the customers, one hotel chain they had the CEO cleaning a pool in 110ยฐF heat, and would say things to him off camera to irritate him. So while the scenarios are real and unscripted, the producers are still manipulating the situations for ratings.
I hope that helped shed some light on how some reality shows are done, u/chet11 ... I can't say what realty show I've been on because I'm under an iron clad NDA, but it's definitely not one I mentioned and it is very real. I had no idea how easy it is to get on a reality show. Most of them are done by a simple interview and some head shots at a talent agency after applying on the website for the show. I actually ended up being cast on a show from an interview for Whodunnit? season 2 (which I didn't get) but was offered another show by the network after they saw my interview video. There's really nothing great about being on a show though... I may not be able to talk about the show, but I can say this: the pay isn't great, you have zero privacy, and depending on the type of show you have to always be mindful of everything you do. Pick your ass once because of a wedgie when you don't see any cameras? Oooohhhhhh no... There's cameras. That you don't see them is the whole point. I once held a fart for 7 hours until I could get to the bathroom to crack one off because that's the only place without cameras.
๐๏ธ chet11 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:16:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yup! Thanks for the reply. :)
DancingGreenman ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:47:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Of course! I like it when there's a question about something I actually know something about!
Booty_Is_Life_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:49:20 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate lizard lick towing because of how fake it is
CynicalWaffles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:00:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would love to hear more info about Whodunnit and The Colony. I was obsessed with those shows haha.
DancingGreenman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:45:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Me too! That's why I did a bit of research into both.
As far as the Colony, it is a truly "what you see is what you get" kind of show. It's brutal, grueling and they literally have medical staff on standby less than a block away in case of injury, heat exhaustion, collapse from starvation or dehydration, allergic reaction from insect bites/stings/etc and when the 'colonists' go out scavenging and whatnot, there's a medic that accompanies the camera crew. All this, even after a lengthy set of waivers about safety so it's more than the producers actually give a shit than a fear of lawsuit.
I suppose in the case of whodunnit, I should have put that in the semi-rigged category because it's believed that the contestant that "dies" is in on it before the puzzle in which they die because there's often a lot of makeup work (the level of realism in some of the death makeup would take well over an hour for a team of Hollywood professionals) for each death.
Though none of the contestants have come out, the speculation is that it's done with no makeup at all initially and the other contestants are reacting to one of their own just laying there unmoving and then they do the makeup and edit in the gruesome "death" afterwards (with the exception of the contestant that is on fire... That's obviously a stunt person)
They were incredibly tight lipped at the agency when I interviewed for the show, though it could really be that they don't know anything,
DancingGreenman ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:19:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also: here's a special treat I just found from 3 years ago: check out u/Anarchy_Amber ... In Season 2 of The Colony, towards the middle of the season they introduced Michel and Amber (massage therapy instructor and a logging foreperson respectively), well Amber just so happened to hear that people were curious about The Colony, so she made an account just to answer a few of the most commonly asked questions.
It turns out, even that is "semi-rigged" in that they tried to encourage the survivors to argue a bit.
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 01:54:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've worked on Food Network reality shows. Competition is real. Drama is fake
zachlag ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 06:56:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not a reality TV show, but I still wanna get this off my chest.
Back when I was a kid, there was this segment of the kids' channel that involved a crew walking around asking kids questions about educational stuff. So one day after swimming, my bro and I bumped into those guys and they asked us if a spider had 8 or 12 legs, we both replied 8. I was told to say 12, as it would be more "entertaining" and also because I was the younger one (I was like 7).
Anyway, the segment aired, and a bunch of kids watched it in my tuition centre and thought I was dumb for saying 12. I remember sulking the whole day as my brother was trying to tell them it was scripted, but the kids were having none of it.
Booty_Is_Life_ ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:42:29 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Damn thats messed up
sulaymanf ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 23:48:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Former crew members working on The Apprentice had a lot of dirt on Donald Trump. Apparently he was a mysogynist, he talked about menstruation, he would fire good people and leave bad ones because he thought it made better TV and make the producers re-cut the show to cast the fired member in a bad light, and he had narcissism.
[deleted] ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 01:43:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I feel shocked. Shocked, I tell you!
duckfuckinme ยท 16 points ยท Posted at 16:09:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The shows House Hunters and House Hunters International on the HGTV channel feature people who are house hunting for their dream home. The show takes viewers along as the buyers browse different houses, debate the pros and cons of each home, and decide upon a home theyโd like to purchase. What the show doesnโt tell you is that itโs all staged. As former show participants have revealed, the majority of what House Hunters gives viewers is an illusion. As former show participant Bobi noted on the Hooked on Houses blog, to be accepted for the show, she (and her family) had to have already secured a home to purchase in order to be on the show. It isnโt hard to believe, seeing as you never see an owner on the show be turned down (only countered) on their offer for a home. While the show has a fun house buyer escapism aspect to it, the reality is less than entertaining.
mndtrp ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:06:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, it makes sense. It can take quite a few months to go from looking at houses to finally getting the keys. Producers aren't going to sit in on that long of a haul.
baitaozi ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:28:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And that explains why they always pick a place that is unfurnished.
GameOnDevin ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 17:05:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on the set of Monday Night Raw back in 2013, and it looked real. Although O did have a sneaking suspicion that it was staged. Not a 100% on this one.
Smellzlikefish ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 18:32:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was asked to help out with an episode of Shark Week that would eventually go on to be named the worst Shark Week show ever made. I love sharks and hoped that I could help filter the mega-killer message. Over three days of shooting, they would feed me lines to say on camera, so I would think about the connotations and rephrase them or simply refuse. They ended up having to CGI in sharks (we got skunked for one segment) and mixed my words around so that my words applied to something very different. I figured when I was getting into it that it would be dodgy, but that was a level of sheisty I was not prepared for!
KitKatMasterJapan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:36:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think I know which special you're talking about, and it makes me really sad how much Shark Week has strayed from it's original message.
Smellzlikefish ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:06:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ignoring the titles, this year's programming was of better quality than years past, but the killer sharks theme had been overplayed since Jaws first came out.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:05:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The megaladon one?
Smellzlikefish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:06:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope
IslamicCaterpillar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:46:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Then which one was it?
Booty_Is_Life_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:37:46 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which one was it
Warm_Kitty ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:21:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went on a show (audience member) called Judge Rinder in the UK which is basically a British version of Judge Judy. Nothing is really rigged per say but they do move a few audience members around and position people e.g. tall people in the back, show a diverse audience etc
When they interview the participants after (we get to watch this on a screen) there are a lot of questions asked to get a lot of detail out of them. When I saw the show on TV, most answers were not "in order" from how they were asked. They were edited at different times to portray a slightly different atmosphere which I can understand since it's a reality show, but still...
Spudhead1976 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:44:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ha, this is great daytime TV fodder! How was Judge Rinder himself? Please tell me he was a jolly nice chap.
Warm_Kitty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:44:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh he was awesome, he talked to the audience after filming and was genuinely witty and lovely to have in your company.
Ckyheidi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've always wanted to be in the audience for that show. How long does filming take?
Warm_Kitty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:46:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It depends on the case really. When I went, I got there for about 3pm and was on my way home for about 5:30/6ish after doing 3 cases. One didn't make it to TV though, I don't think.
thedesignproject ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:38:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Judge Rinder makes me laugh so hard.
Warm_Kitty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:47:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He's utterly brilliant.
sonicscrewery ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 20:04:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was part of the "gunge game" on a New Zealand show called What Now? They give you clothes to wear so that you don't get your own all slimy when you play the game and they have showers available for afterwards. At one point I had to root around in a vat of slime blindfolded to find an egg and crack it on my head. When I found it, it felt like a ping-pong ball, so I didn't think it would really crack. It did, and I had slime and egg running through my hair. The expression on my face in the playback was priceless.
If they don't get a certain shot or if someone messes up a shot they'll re-film the audience later. One cameraman accidentally filmed the back of another one so they took us (the contestants) out of the audience and got footage of our friends pretending to cheer us on even though the game was already over.
Coolpantsbruh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:37:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on what now, when it filmed on takapuna beach. We did a team challenge and the losers got gunged but there wasnt enough kids on location they made us all get gunged. No shower, in our own clothes. Once we were gunged we weren't allowed inside the yacht club where they filmed inside stuff. Oh and I'm pretty sure the host hated kids.
andwhatt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wasn't jason gunn the host?
Coolpantsbruh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:55:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This was later, um 2004 I think.
andwhatt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:39:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ahh. Was gonna say, man he faked it well, he's got a whole lot of kids of his own even
26326312 ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 20:22:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on countdown a couple years ago. Rachel Riley does not work out the maths problems that quickly at all. On many occasions they have to let her work stuff out while they continue filming and then come back to her. It's all edited to make it look like she can work out the sums instantly.
jasmith2706 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:01:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
there goes the perfect image of her i had in my head
GreenTaylorShrimm ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:48:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend was on that shitty MTV dating show NEXT. Basically speed dating with one person choosing between five candidates.
Well, my friend had no illusions going in and instead of going with the girl the producers wanted to him to pick - wrapping the shoot early for everyone - he proceeded to tear into the Paris Hilton looking girl only to have the producers tell him "that was great, editing is going to have a ball with this. Alright let's get some more takes". He said that he learned shame that day.
So after telling her that her lipstick reminded him of shades one typically finds at the base of a penis, six takes later, the crew had all the angles they needed. She described him as a bag boy in the post interview. He informed the audience there was nothing wrong with their TVs, she was just that orange.
He said there was a creative consultant on set to come up with barbs for the contestants should they draw a blank but never went with what they suggested. So there's the most glaring fake aspect I suppose. Well, that, and, according to him, the editing room floor.
So the takeaway here is that reality dating shows are rigged to production costs (everyone wants to leave early), the FCC (censorship), and naivety of the process (it is not a dating show - it is a show).
KitKatMasterJapan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:40:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I LOVED NEXT! However, the acting on it was so bad, I prayed it was fake because otherwise those people are hella awkward.
GreenTaylorShrimm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:39:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It wasn't acting per se. There were video interviews for getting on the show but I was with him on campus where it took place, holding his backpack and shaking my head. I'm fairly certain they simply recruited from college campuses around LA County and whether or not theater majors filled the ranks or average students I can not comment.
xanthalasajache ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:18:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am a fan of Rupaul's Drag Race(THE darg queen reality show) where about 12 queens compete in challenges for a crown. Of course the storyline is there, every one has an edit(filler edit, villain edit, underdog edit, winner edit, midpack edit). They too eat cheesy potatoes and one contestant flipped out. They too lock the doors during filming and put tapes so they know the queen left the room. The hotel also would not hire gay staff because sometimes allegedly there's a queen who gave a producer blowjob and went to the top three. But that's just the surface.
PocketSizedPeanut ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:36:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hubby and I are currently binging this show, love it! I'm not positive I totally understand everything you've said though. What do gay wait staff have to do with a queen blowing a producer?
xanthalasajache ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:43:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The wait staff could thus give them freedom from hotel rules and such
xanthalasajache ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:45:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would suggest you to come over at the mainsub /r/rupaulsdragrace so we could kiki about stuff. There is a T (Truth) masterpost in the sidebar that tells almost everything that is not shown.
PocketSizedPeanut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:09:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Done! โค๏ธ
Counterkulture ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:19:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Please, God, let someone confirm Cheaters was a total fucking fake lie.
Ziggyrollablunt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:07:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone further up the thread said he was approached to be on an episode. When he said he was single they told him they would cast his "girlfriend" later. So I'm guessing with about 97% assurance it's all fake and stupid bullshit.
speakingofsegues ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 00:28:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You will never hail the Cash Cab at random.
Winterwacko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How does it work then?
speakingofsegues ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:51:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can only speak for where I live, but I assume it's the close to the same in most, if not all, other cities;
All the contestants are pre-selected by recruiters who interview people on the street. Granted, they have a certain type they're looking for. Under the guise of another show, recruiters get a sense of someone's intelligence. Anyone thought to be a good candidate will be forwarded to a producer, who will follow up by phone (still under the guise of another show) to confirm a few things. If chosen, a place to meet will be determined.
At said meeting place, the producer's car will have problems, and the producer will "call for a cab" in order to send the contestants to the "location" they think they'll be going to in order to be on this other show they've been believing is real this whole time. The cab is sitting around the corner waiting for the cue to pull up.
It's only once they get in the cab and the lights go off that they find out they're actually on cash cab.
Source: Was hired as a recruiter.
Winterwacko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:35 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Do you have any stories to tell from working as a recruiter. I don't know what kinda answer I will get.
LaughingCTron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:47:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They do pre-screening. They do pick people at random, just not as random as you would think.
ctown101 ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 00:35:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on an American Singing show in which some people Idolized the winners. During the experience I went through multiple auditions for people that were most likely just low level random helpers, that had me sing for them, and then decided if I go through. No celebrity judges until the 4th audition. At that point you walk into the room knowing you either did/didn't make it, which makes running out of the room screaming kinda odd lol . Which is basically why no one shuts down from stage fright, and why there are no middle of the road singers. You are either Tv Material or Bat Shit Crazy. BTW Bat shit crazy are required to do the exact same thing as their initial audition with the same outfit, and they sign a different contract. The contract I signed said they owned everything marketable about me, that I could not tell anyone I made it through, and that i couldn't speak to any media sources unless it was cleared by fox. The following morning a major radio station in Boston already knew some how, and was announcing it on the radio and asking anyone who knew me to have me call in. Fox denied the request. The weirdest thing was immediately after the announcement, businesses started buying all variations of my name in website form, in an effort to capitalize should i have made it big. I didn't lol
hellotomystalkers ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 06:19:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cupcake Wars here! Not as a contestant though (sort of a prop...long story, but I was on set or on camera for the entire taping). The bakers are fed lines by the producers ("Say you're worried about the frosting." "OH MY GOD BECKY...THE GANACHE! It isn't ready!") and the judges eat pre-made cupcakes. I think the order of elimination is pre set as well, since the people who were eliminated first were really bummed the whole taping and the winners were hyperactively smiling. The also do the "secret ingredient" segment repeatedly to get good reactions. Meh.
werkz4me ยท 29 points ยท Posted at 14:47:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It all depends on the network and the production company. Sometimes the network demands that certain things be faked, other times the production company fakes things to save time and money. A lower budget show on a small network has a better chance of being fake than a big budget show on a major network. Nothing is faked on Survivor.
[deleted] ยท 33 points ยท Posted at 15:54:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This isn't necessarily fake but twisting the truth....the last winner of Survivor was listed as a bartender. But she's really a travel agent. She was a bartender once, a long time ago, for a little while. I guess they thought being a bartender was more interesting or sexy.
psychocopter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think a travel agent sounds hotter than a bar tender. Its the I work with alchohol all night vs I manage peoples travels around the world.
rTeOdMdMiYt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If they said anyone was a travel agent today I'd think it was fake
theotherkeith ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:42:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was filmed almost a year prior to air date. People change jobs.
thermac ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:08:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She was a travel agent before filming. She had first applied when she was still a bartender so that's what she was cast as.
SickNDick ยท -13 points ยท Posted at 20:19:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Spoilers, cunt.
Dr_Ghamorra ยท 23 points ยท Posted at 16:31:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Survivor also has a full remote campus onsite. Medical center, food, shelter, ect. The contestants don't use it but I've heard stories where one team just really, really sucked at scavenging and they had to intervene because they weren't getting enough nutrients. They didn't serve steak and potatoes but to say they're all alone is a bit of an exaggeration.
canadianleroy ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 18:00:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if this is true but I heard that a lot of changes were enforced after season 2 when the one malnourished contestant fainted and fell into a fire pit.
PhotoTard ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:32:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact - he's now in jail and will likely be spending time in prison. Google "Michael Skupin arrest".
misskass ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:43:55 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
D:
toxicgecko ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:55:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
christ! I've never watched it but I kinda want to now.
lupuscapabilis ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:02:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This past season had 3 medical evacuations and some serious looking wounds/infections. Even with safety procedures in place, they don't mess around on Survivor.
toxicgecko ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:41:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jesus, survivor sounds metal af. I need to find out if its aired in the UK
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:56:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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toxicgecko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:16:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks dude! I know how I'm spending the next few weeks
Hyduron ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:46:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Fun fact, American Survivor is based on UK Survivor. Or a remake, however you want to phrase it.
toxicgecko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:02:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Huh, I though it was completely different
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:25:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
well yeah, you don't want someone legitimately starving to death or dying of dehydration on your game show.
PhotoTard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No one has ever suggested they are 'alone', in fact the host is on every show, and the medical squads with helicopters are often on the show.
There are roughly 300 people on location for Survivor, and there are roughly 60 on site at the challenges. They are producers, film and audio crew, construction, sometimes a reporter, medical crew, usually a local government observer, etc.
The other people on location are video catalogers, transcriptionists, (they type in everything said on camera), cooks, drivers (some challenges are far away), food buyers, security, and so on.
GiftTag ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:23:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They for sure seem to have a much easier time, food-wise, in the more recent seasons. People don't drop weight like they used to, there are food rewards constantly, and when a crazy person pisses in the rice stash, it gets replaced. People used to freak out over fishing supplies, and now they rarely seem to get used (unless we don't see it). The elements and injuries still seem real as fuck but I no longer believe they're starving out there.
[deleted] ยท 18 points ยท Posted at 15:55:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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coloradoforests1701 ยท 26 points ยท Posted at 16:10:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not that bad
eclecticness ยท 30 points ยท Posted at 16:18:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's also not the actual contestants being filmed for the aerial shots sometimes - its a team of helpers. So while the product of the show is a bit manipulated, the actual competition is not.
kirbyfox312 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:06:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Compared to some of the other stuff in here, not at all.
[deleted] ยท 19 points ยท Posted at 16:43:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They do the aerial shots with the Dream Team running the challenges so that they will only get the people doing the challenge in the shot, and not the hundreds of camera and production people that are surrounding the challenge when it is actually be run by the contestants.
PhotoTard ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:35:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not "faked" - they do a full test run with staff, and this is where they film the close-ups of hands, feet etc and the wide helicopter shots. From this they can decide is some part is too hard or easy, and can modify the challenge if needed.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:17:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nothing is faked, but some things are edited out to make it look a certain way. Take the last season for example. During a challenge where contestants had to balance blocks on a see-saw like platform, host jeff comments on one contestant falling behind.(cindy? Idr, the female black body builder. Names are hard) the edit made it look like she won by going slow and never having her stack fall when others fell and had to start over. They made it look like she completed it without a fall. A hidden/behind the scene segment online revealed that while she did win, she did have to restart atone point when her tower fell
Salt-Pile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:04:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What always puzzled me about Survivor was how the men all quickly grow facial hair but not one of the women ever grow hair under their arms or on their legs.
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 15:38:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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eclecticness ยท 15 points ยท Posted at 16:19:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, sometimes people are recruited/scouted to participate. However, they still participate in the very real competition.
[deleted] ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 19:02:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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eclecticness ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:07:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
They don't hire actors - they recruit people (usually young good looking and yes, oftentimes they are aspiring actors/models) but these people play the game just as every other contestant does. Nothing is skewed in their favour. Just as many fans of the show, lawyers, teachers etc get cast. I'm sure many of the contestants ham up reactions to get more screentime. There have been recruits who have gone on to play really solid games. That's not the same level as faking drama to me. Real scenarios are certainly edited for dramatic effect, no doubt, but it is different that saying "Here's a bunch of actors on an island now act out these scenes".
Edit: Adding to this, "the edit" is a topic that come up extensively on r/survivor. It kind of delves into the fact that yes, it is a TV show meant to be entertaining and therefore context is changed and story line is added to make this happen. But on the whole, the experience of survivor is quite real.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:11:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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eclecticness ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:13:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Agreed - it would be unrealistic to assume everything played out exactly as portrayed on TV! :)
Unknownlight ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:24:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
You're completely overestimating how much people are willing to act when they're hungry and stressed. Like, here's an interview from John Rocker, a
football player(edit: baseball player. I'm dumb) who's done a few reality shows and tried going on Survivor:PopsicleIncorporated ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:19:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Rocker was a baseball player. He's also a racist douchebag who was stunt casted.
This comes from a massive fan of the show, too.
distracted_x ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:29:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They arent all actors. I read an article saying that yes, when they didn't have enough quality contestants apply to be on the show they sometimes did casting to find them. But, they still had to do everything everyone else did so who cares?
PhotoTard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:40:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's a VERY misleading comment.
Yes, some of the contestants were invited to compete, and many of them are actors because 1) Actors often can take 3 months to do the show and 2) Most recruiting is done in LA, which is full of actors.
No matter how they were chosen for the show, they all go through the same ordeal. Most will tell you there is no 'hamming it up' when you go for days without sleeping or eating in extreme heat.
Numbre002 ยท 54 points ยท Posted at 15:32:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Absolutely every part of what you see is fake, scripted, directed and often made from multiple takes. I was on Shipping Wars.
Grinder312 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 16:59:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can you give us some examples of how it was fake? Was it the bidding, the struggles/damages/arguments? Were the loads just fake to sell the show?
Numbre002 ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 20:02:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Literally every aspect and thing you are asking about was fabricated. 0% of the show was 'real' and I would surmise that this is true of most other reality TV shows.
The production company got in touch with ours via one of their talent scouts. They asked if we would be interested in being on the show. About a year later, they approached us again with a script / concept for an episode. We agreed to be a part of it thinking that we would gain some exposure for our business. We shot the episode in about 12 hours and it aired a few months later.
Our business was not impacted in a positive or negative way and virtually no one has said they've recognized us from the episode.
e: to answer your question more directly, all arguments, accidents, unforeseen challenges etc were all part of the original script for the segment. There is no bidding process what-so-ever. There were small opportunities for adlibbing and the actual labor/work that we did on camera was real. The load was real but the story behind why the load needed to be transported was fake.
Grinder312 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:12:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for being so forthcoming with information on it. I enjoyed the show hoping some aspects were real, but a lot of the plot lines just seemed fabricated. Sorry it didn't gain you any positive exposure. When you refer to your company, do you mean your personal shipping company or the intermediary (I.e. The website used to host the "bidding".
Numbre002 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:38:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No problem. Happy to shed some light on the subject.
We were the owners of the cargo, which I guess technically made us the shipper.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:15:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seems to me that shows like this are just long infomercials for the website, in this case, uship.com, right?
Numbre002 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:42:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree. I feel that shows like this are basically just preying on people's misunderstanding of how modern TV works.
poochyenarulez ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:01:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I figured that out after a few episodes. I really enjoyed the show for the first few episodes, but then they started to not even hide the fact it was fake.
It is stupid to think they are all bidding on the same item, and are the only ones bidding on it. Jarrett is just too annoying and makes the show unwatchable. Also the fakest one on the show.
squirrel-phone ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:36:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Would love to hear more about it.
Numbre002 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:09:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Happy to share. Scroll up a few comments.
SireBelch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:22:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shit I loved that show. Rest in peace, Roy. I hope his kitty cat was well cared for.
blueeyesofthesiren ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I want to imagine your the dude with the van that always fucked shit up. I loved that show!
Numbre002 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:06:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ha. we were the "shipper" in the episode. In other words, the load that was being "transported" was our property.
blueeyesofthesiren ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:11:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Got it! Please tell me you didn't get the dude with the van that always fucks up shit...
Numbre002 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:40:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There was some damage and it took forever to get our cargo back. Can't dive too much deeper than that though. I'm sure this probably not adhering to our NDA.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 16:52:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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satannik ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:00:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
*your
thepollitt ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:35:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As in the UK show? Shiply televised?
[deleted] ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 16:11:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Alison Teal from Discovery Channel's 'Naked and Afraid' did an AMA.
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1i34j2/im_alison_teal_from_discovery_channels_naked_and/?ref=search_posts
tl;dr - A lot of the show was scripted or "staged," but some was genuine. She said it was much more scripted on the XL version of the show which was two teams for 40-days.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:48:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't imagine being naked like that especially in front a stranger (s).
shinypretty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:29:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This will make you feel better. Trust. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ44aQWnH4I
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:55:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've seen this and it's funny as hell.
shinypretty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:33:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
(It's safe. It's SNL.)
rubberneck24 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:14:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did pawn stars about 5 years ago as a favor to a friend working on the show. Everything is staged. They had me pick an item from storage that I wanted to sell and then told me to come up with a good back story. Then when I actually filmed the scene the director told the guys literally every line to say.
Habefiet ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:21:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Over on /r/survivor we've seen like 30-40 past contestants do AMAs and it's all quite real aside from certain aspects that are left out (ex. contestants are driven to challenges / Tribal Council rather than trekking it, restricted from talking to each other on the way there and back) or the way things are presented (Tribal Council often takes literal hours, but gets chopped down to like 7 minutes for the episode).
loudot ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:50:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My cousin was edited to be the bitchy girl on the Bachelor. She'd say things like 'If everyone else just, y'know, disappeared, that would be great.' Then smile to let them know she was making a joke. They reliably cut away from her early, so she sounded serious.
She got to the final 3 though, and by the time the show actually aired she'd already met a guy IRL. It worked out ok for her!
shinypretty ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 03:34:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Surely, someone on here has to have some background knowledge of the best reality show of all time, "Rock of Love."
Please enlighten me. I don't think you kept food from those skanks. I think they just live on booze and bitchiness.
Diarygirl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:18:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't really like most reality TV but there are some that I like for reasons I can't explain, and "Rock of Love" is one of them.
shinypretty ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 05:32:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's awesome, is why. Unexplainably epic.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:49:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
While I don't have any first hand knowledge, it was a common thing between the different VH1 dating shows that the contestants were all either aspiring actors, strippers (Heather, Destiney, Angelyne, Farrah from "Rock of Love"), at least one legit centerfold (Taya, from Rock of Love: Bus (3), was the reigning "Penthouse Pet of the Year" that year) and prostitutes (rumors, no proof).
One of the most notorious contestants was Megan Hauserman. She'd already done WB's "Beauty and the Geek" by the time she did "Rock of Love", and did "Rock of Love: Charm School" and "I Love Money" before she got her own show, "Megan Wants a Millionaire". That didn't go so well.
shinypretty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:26:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Heather C from the first season is my all-time fave. Bret should have chosen her. She is always awesome.
And Taya was a first-class bitch.
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 15:18:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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shinypretty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:15:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I mean, I liked Jes just fine - she looks like a blast to party with - but she wasn't right for him.
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 16:31:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not even going to go into the shitty choice from season 2. That was stupid. She looked and acted like a newscaster who just happened to go to a reality show. Daisy was standing there, just ready to do and be whatever he wanted, and I really felt sorry for her.
While Daisy wasn't really suited to him, either, she really wanted to be there.
My big issue with both this and Flavor of Love is both of them had a woman at home waiting for them while this stuff was going on.
shinypretty ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 16:58:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh God, Ambre with an -RE. Who lied about her age and got sold out by her own dad.
But Daisy ... damn. That was a tremendous hot mess. She was more trainwrecky than Lacey from S1. (Who I hated and will still punch in the taco if I ever get a chance.)
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:36:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
No. Nobody was worse than Lacey. When I was on TelevisionWithoutPity forums, we were calling her LSD-cey. Besides, Daisy wasn't trying to fight her competitors or shove them into the pool.
But I did love that Lacey's dad had to go see Bret and ask him if Lacey had been sucking his dick.
Edit: Someone posted the episode on YouTube. Pretty good stuff.
shinypretty ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:40:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is true. Daisy was just scaring everyone with her giant lips and freakish boobs. Someone on a TWP recap called her a sex muppet, which a) made me laugh so hard and b) is true.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:47:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
She did kind of look like Janice the Muppet.
The ROL episode when Heather confronts Lacey is here.
shinypretty ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:28:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That is honestly why God created TV. "Dicksucker whorebag" is the best insult I have ever heard in my entire life.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:49:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think my favorite is Lacey's dad confronting Bret:
"Hey big boy!"
Sheesh.
shinypretty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:58:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Asking him about his hair was epic.
Symbolis ยท 17 points ยท Posted at 16:08:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Care to weigh in, /u/DanGheesling?
Though I expect you're a bit busy, now.
allwordsaredust ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:06:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can't trust Dan's answer anyway, he's a snake.
He'd probably socially engineer us all to upvote him with the power of memes.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:30:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At least he won't be massaging the audience.
aperson ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 17:33:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably too busy dading it up.
Symbolis ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:35:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I figured. Worth a shot, though.
Brandon_Me ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:56:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I fucking love his last name.
Jamesc1116 ยท 22 points ยท Posted at 20:52:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on MTVs made. A lot of it was real. We filmed for about 4 months, and you become very close with the producers. They never told us "you need to do ___" but we could tell when they were happy with what we were doing.
One thing that was staged was phone calls, phone calls had to be made from the producers phone so they can record it correctly. A lot of times the producer would call me and tell me "x is going to call you in a few minutes, he's going to tell you that you're meeting at y, suggest we meet at x."
We couldn't really go anywhere we wanted to because we needed permits to film in certain locations so the producers would ask us where we wanted to go/ what we wanted to do. And they would set up something along those lines.
If you see a scene with multiple camera angles, it was essentially set up. They knew something major was going to happen and they would have several cameras to capture it.
So I wrote about this before and nobody ever seems to care. There's a lot more really interesting stuff about us filming but I'm not going to type it up if nobody is going to read it. If there is interest I'll add more to this.
HumanStain49 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:56:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I want to hear about it!!
andwhatt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:31:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What episode were you on? Were you "made"? Sounds like they only staged the parts they really needed to, that's good
captnfirepants ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:41:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd like to hear about it.
If not here, link to previous post?
Booty_Is_Life_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:57:59 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wish to read what happened
Adamsan41978 ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 17:09:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend does lighting and production for many reality shows. About everything is staged. Even events that show the subjects doing particular events can be fake. I'm not saying there's not really competitions or reality television drama, but even if it's real it's played up quite a bit.
judgezilla ยท 14 points ยท Posted at 16:40:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on a tlc/ discovery green show called wa$ted. premise is show comes in, makes fun of you for being wasteful gives your house a "green" makeover they then track you for a month and come back and cut you a check on your savings that month x 12 and yay everybody is happy. I was handling the accounts, I know all their money "tracking" was fake. but as far as I was concerned they gave us free money so didnt care. all of the shots were real, they really did go though the garbage, they did dump garbage in my yard, and our organization did lots towards going green. we stocked up on CFL to replace the lights, we got radiator valve regulators installed, we had a new smaller boiler installed, a few more effcient appliances, auto shut off lights in common rooms. later we installed new windows and a few doors....its a 1889 house so.... theres alot of work to be done..
we were also on a pilot MTV show called ante up. they filmed positive and negative on everything and ....it was pretty terrible. premise is asshole aussie host guy bursts in your door and says I BET YOU THIS AWESOME TV YOU DONT KNOW SNOOP DOGS REAL NAME. you answer correctly you get TV, you dont, this MMA guy destroys the tv in a creative manner. was.. interesting. and terrible. and left one hell of a mess.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your first one reminds me of a new segment where they took everything that wasn't made in America out of their house and gave them some that was made in America.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:20:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Calvin brodus I believe is snoops real name might be off on the spelling.
imjohnk ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 15:17:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone from the city I live also has been on the Dutch version of Utopia for a while. The production is there and is calling them every once in a while for a check to change the batteries of their transmitters. Usually they also say stuff like: "Could you maybe talk to ____?" She hasn't seen any actual staged scenes but she definitely got some guidance to make the storylines complete, if that makes sense.
Dog_does_a_jig ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:24:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some experience with a show that portrays a very large woman doing all kinds of active, artistic, and fun things. Some of it is actually true but they have to edit out some really crazy looks people give and even some mean comments by passerbies. They also said she was not as popular as the show made it seem as everyone was being paid to treat her affectionately and kind when really people thought of her as disgusting and ridiculous.
missartteacher ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:14:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is this person also Fabulous? I've only see the commercials and I think she's kind of ridiculous too--if it's the show I'm thinking of....
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which show is that?
GenericVodka13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:59:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Because she is disgusting and ridiculous.
bzsteele ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:18:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friends sister was on the first season of the bachelor. She told me that they made sure the contestants had plenty of alcohol, very little food, and the rooms would be consistently warm...pretty much just priming all the contestants to fight with each other.
Autumn-Moon ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:20:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Back in the early 2000's MTV's Made came to my high school. It was so scripted it was ridiculous. They took an already popular guy at my school that everyone knew and made him look like a loser and told everyone to vote for him to become Prom King for the show. He won of course. The crew was also creepy, telling groups of teen girls to strut down the hallway sexy so they can get a good shot for the episode.
elkabongg ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 21:36:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Buddy of mine was in the first season of the Amazing Race. He swears up and down it was totally legit. He was Kevin of the Kevin and Drew pair (the bald guys). Fun fact: After the first season, they became minor celebs. They even had their own show, Kevin and Drew Unleashed. Their narrator was Mike Rowe, who convinced the producers to get rid of them and give the concept to him, which became "Dirty Jobs". http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0419346/
ghotiaroma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm assuming his contract includes penalties in the millions if he says differently. I know AGT does. You have to remember that even if the fraud is not the idea of the contestant they become part of it and cognitive dissonance kicks in and it's easier to just believe.
elkabongg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:04:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
sure. maybe hat's the case
[deleted] ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 21:45:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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delmar42 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:01:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I recently got to chat with a woman who was on "Naked and Afraid". We only had a few minutes to talk (we were both in a race that was about to start), but she said it was real. I didn't know her, and she could have been lying, but I'd like to believe she was telling the truth.
voipceo ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:24:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on WifeSwap. It's all real. Everything they have on video is real. The magic happens in editing. They want to create a story arc - Conflict => Resolution. Usually it's not that simple in real life. If you're mad, you stay mad for a while, at least I do. So when we had a fight on Wednesday they tried to get us to "make up" on Thursday, but neither of us were good enough actors, so, instead, they used footage from Tuesday prior to when we were upset with each other and spliced it in AFTER the Wednesday footage to give you the illusion of Conflict and then Resolution. Did all the events they showed really happen? Yes! Did they coerce any of those events? No? Did they happen in that order....NO.
CurlyTemple ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:33:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I applied to be on House Hunters International while looking for a house abroad. Three months later they contacted me asking if I could film an episode in which I would "decide" to live in my apartment that I'm currently in. I didn't have time at that point so I said no -and now the show is ruined for me.
GeeEhm ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:43:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I knew someone else that was on House Hunters that had this experience. They viewed two unfurnished homes and their own home that they'd recently moved into which was, of course, furnished but the producers took out personal items, moved furniture around, slip-covered items, etc. so it looked like they were viewing a house that was on the market.
CurlyTemple ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:02:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yea this is exactly the process! They hire movers and take everything out and back in again in one day for both scenes. And they pay "cast members" and prompt as much drama as possible. They kept asking my boyfriend and I about what we sacrificed for the move and about our disagreements in choosing a place... We felt that we needed to make something up for them to be happy.
kabes811 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:56:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does anyone remember the show Growing Up Gotti? I'm on Long Island and those knuckle heads were all over the place here. They filmed an episode at the water park on a day I happened to be there. They got to cut all the lines which was bullshit but in the episode they made it seem like either them (or a friend, I don't remember) were thrown out of the park for jumping off the side and into the wave pool. That was bullshit because I was right there. They had staff escort them to the side of the pool, filmed them jumping in and staged them getting tossed out.
so_fetchhhhh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:02:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I loved that show.
The-War-Boy ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:16:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Kenny VS Spenny is absolutely real. You cannot fake that shit.
tearlock ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:19:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I had an audition on American Idol. They made everyone in my audition city that made it past the unfilmed portion of the judging sing "Lady Marmalade" on camera after giving half of us horribly mangled and nonsensical lyrics. They then edited a montage together showing lots of contestants butchering the lyrics as if it was some embarrassing accident. I was in the montage too but I had correct lyrics, they still managed to make it sound bad by playing me split screen with three other contestants all singing a capella in different dissonant keys. That was the day I learned how much a camera can lie.
Also, the real train wrecks are given a ticket past some preliminary auditions and are lead to believe that they are just that good. They then walk into the final audition room confidently, only to receive a brutal take down by the celebrities. The rest of us received numerous screen tests and additional auditions.
On a side note, I have always suspected that the notes by those conducting the screen tests may have actually decided in advance that a lot of the contestants would go to Hollywood before ever getting in front of the celebrity judges. The actual on screen auditions would just be a formality at that point or a way to produce some good on screen drama. There were producers all over the place and they had three days to review and make decisions before we ever even saw the judges. Also keep in mind that while 15000 hopefuls showed up, i'd estimate that less than 100 in my city got past the off-screen 10 second auditions. They really narrow it down to the absolute best and worst.
Thegymgyrl ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:27:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend was a producer on the MTV show Catfish. She said the producers already have gotten to the bottom of the mystery of who the catfisher is so they know how it will all pan out before Nev and Max are given the case. This way they know they won't waste filming and airplane flights on something that doesn't make for good TV.
imjohnk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:48:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard this often, also on other threads, and I'm really happy about it. I never got the fact that there has never been an episode where the catfish didn't want to meet. Of course there has been where the catfish refuses the day itself, but still goes later. It makes sense that they call them but Nev and Max don't know because they really look surprised and sound really genuine. My favorite episode will always be the "fat ass kelly price" where a girl writes to Catfish for his cousin, they go to 3 houses but don't find anything and then the girl admits she is the Catfish because he called her a "fat ass kelly price".
lukewolfe ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:50:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on beachfront bargainhunt in season 10 (still currently airing). Spent 2 weeks filming with my family. Everything is filmed in 30 second shots and it's all fully directed. To begin, we had already bought the place we "chose" over a year beforehand for 145k or so as a POS that my family and I overhauled heavily based on our high level of decoration knowledge. It should have been valued at over 200k. They advertised the fully renovated place at the price of the pre-renovation condo in order to make it a "bargain." We had to act as if we didn't enjoy the decorations and paint colors we chose and renovated the place with. All we got was 1000 bucks which was almost absorbed by boarding our dogs. "Once in a lifetime" they said. It was miserable.
cuntsiclez ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:59:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Obligatory "not me but a friend" and I don't know if this qualifies or not, but here goes:
I had a good friend who was on a Dr. Phil special about drug addiction. They did a full intervention on him without him ever knowing. He was woken up by his mom the morning of the intervention, walked out of his room to cameras everywhere, and Dr Phil sitting on his couch. Said he was trippin about the whole situation.
I've known this guy for a very long time, and after seeing the episode I was convinced he was right. He looked pretty genuinely shocked walking out of his room to see Dr Phil sitting there.
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:38:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hope to god "What Not To Wear" was all real, cuz it felt super genuine and Stacy and Clinton seemed down to earth. I might have even cried a little during the finale...
MyriadMuse ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:46:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Im guessing most are fake nowadays but man does anyone remember how hardcore fear factor was? Now that was good reality tv. One of my coworkers used to date someone who appeared on the show.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:08:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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MyriadMuse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:25:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
And
horsedonkey semen andhorsedonkey piss. which apparently was seen as too far and caused the show to cancel.I think the worst part really was the height challenges and the laying ina pit with creatures that bite u or sting u and shit challenges. gross.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:38:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Excuse me, that was donkey urine/semen.
MyriadMuse ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:28:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh yeah. forgot lol.
hank1203 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:10:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Watch the show unREAL! It's so good! It's a show about a production crew who does a reality tv dating show. It's obviously not real but it's cool to see their take on like the "behind the scenes" of reality dating
erinalexa ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:54:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My grandpa's best friend was on American Picker's. They pretended to roll up on his property to find him playing crazy instruments he made. In reality he had demanded that be done. The guy was also a pretty important artist but they made it seem like he was some random Joe with a collection of stuff.
He's actually passed since the shooting and talked briefly about my grandpa having changed his life, so gramps and I watch the episode pretty frequently.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If you don't mind, could you tell me what episode it is? Sounds interesting
erinalexa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:31:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Season 4, Episode 4. The Mad Catter, he's the 2nd person they visit (and my grandpa is "The Art Teacher").
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:18:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sweet, thanks!
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 06:34:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on Criss Angel: Mindfreak.
It was absolutely real, and my mind is still blown to this day.
Yes, I am contractually obligated to say that.
Blued00d ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:18:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd like to hear more about this one!
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 14:28:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not a wildly entertaining story, but I was in the crowd of people that watched him make the Lamborghini disappear. They "interviewed" a few of us after we filmed a few takes, and we had to act like we had just seen the most insane thing in the world, even though it was obviously fake
NoviceApproach ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:46:07 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I figured this is what they did. I still have to convince my dad, anytime magic tricks pop up, that the statue of liberty/tank/train etc, did not really happen and they were all in on it
lebasydee ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:00:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on the fashion design competition series, Project Runway! Everything is completely real from the sketches, designs, sewing, and DEFINITELY the stress that you see us go through. There's no elves in the back room who do the sewing for us as many people think. The drama during the confessionals (the on camera interviews) are pretty much 50/50 -- some of it is true and some of it is edited to be television worthy lol. The cast and I just told each other that shit will be said and edited once the episodes aired, but you just gotta have thick skin and know that at the end of the day it's just reality TV. We still have a pretty great bond to this day!
It might just be my personality, but I loved working with everyone, both the cast and crew.
Also, this is very off topic, but the snacks, lunches, and dinners they have backstage for everyone are pretty awesome.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:31:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Glad to hear this! Some other reality shows (RuPauls Drag Race, for example) has a reputation for having bad food on their sets and in the hotel. 'Cheesy potatoes' is a big one, and one contestant brought a suitcase full of her own food
kidgun ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 08:22:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was present for a day of filming for My Cat From Hell, and there wasn't too much scripting. The producers would sit in another room in the apartment while Jackson (the host) worked with my friend and her cats. The beats would come naturally, and the producers would have them repeat certain parts of conversation so they could get shots they'd want to emphasize. Or Jackson would talk about one of the cats sleeping, so they would tell a cameraman to get a shot of the cat to put over the conversation. The only thing that was staged was a small party to show the cats behaving well with people around. They only staged that in case they didn't want to use the real footage we shot for my friend's "homework. "
Diarygirl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:51:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love that guy, and I would have been devastated if Jackson was fake.
delmar42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:09:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I loved watching that show, since the hubby and I have 4 cats.
kidgun ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:23:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Since the filming I'll watch it occasionally. I used to have two cats and one was scared of people since he was a rescue. I was the only person he liked because I learned how to interact with him. Jackson saw me do the same thing with my friend's cat in the homework and said he was impressed. It was cool to hear that from someone who works with cats for a living.
depthandbloom ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:25:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not me, but a college friend was the first guy Snooky ever brought home on Jersey Shore. The editors made it look like she met him at the bar, took him home to fuck him, but he ended up puking off the roof before they could fuck. Turns out, not even close to the reality.
He met Snooky years before she was ever on the show while he was a bartender. She called him and said she was on a reality show and asked if they could meet up. He went to the Jersey Shore house and before he went in some producers pulled him in their van and basically told him "You need to make a scene," handed him a mickey of Jack Daniels, and asked him to drink it all before he went inside. He obliged, but he admitted that Snooky and the other cast members had no idea he was approached by producers beforehand.
To top it all off, they paid in $3000 for doing it. I think it was episode 2 or 3 and his name is Rob. I think the best part of the story is how he never openly told us about this. My friend was watching the episode (this was when it was popular) and was like "HOLY FUCK DUDE THAT'S ROB." He denied ever being on the show until we pulled up the computer and there he was haha.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:16:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mental note: Rob will do it for $3000. Got it.
[deleted] ยท 8 points ยท Posted at 18:50:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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imjohnk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:55:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How do you get on a big show like that though? It's not that you're suddenly friends with them or something.
oath2order ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 19:26:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Here's some of the background on RuPaul's Drag Race.
Casting from Willam
Masterpost of the Behind the Scenes stuff from the show, all seasons
KitKatMasterJapan ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:48:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
thanks for the T!
TheMagicSack ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:53:57 on July 17, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anything T on the recent season?
[deleted] ยท 10 points ยท Posted at 00:11:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anybody work with Christley Knows Best and can confirm he's a fan of the old b-hole?
Beatrixkidd-o ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:06:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol I've wondered that too
katiedid05 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:06:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This needs to be answered
cfvh ยท 11 points ยท Posted at 17:34:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on a ghost hunting show. Regardless of what one believes in or not, they actually took their investigations and whatnot quite seriously. I found that the post-production sound effects, etc, are what made it particularly hokey.
[deleted] ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 20:05:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well of course they take the investigations seriously. Many people believe in the paranormal and I'm sure the people on these shows do too. However, it's all bullshit. There is no such thing as ghosts first of all and secondly, these shows are making a lot of money. The people on these shows aren't going to go on an interview and say they don't believe.
if_they_only_knew ยท 13 points ยท Posted at 18:15:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ninja Warrior:
The course broke while someone was on the obstacle and he fell in the water. They made him take of his clothes so they could try em up while they fixed the obstacle. Later they faked so he just jump down from the obstacle and continued the rest of the course.
Also they paused the last stage so they could rest mid course. One of the contestants dislocated his finger. They put it back during the pause, too bad would have made awesome TV, cause he finished the first part with a dislocated finger.
RealWorldCancun22 ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 22:02:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on the Real World: Cancun back in 2009 as a cast member.
My experience was actually VERY real. The show did a fantastic job of really capturing our story, and I felt like it nailed all of our personalities very accurately.
Everyone always thinks it's totally staged but mine definitely was not.
thedesignproject ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:52:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your season looked like a lot of fun :)
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:57:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Spudhead1976 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:41:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is this the UK version? I can never figure out why the groom makes such ridiculous decisions, sometimes going as far as to really upset the bride.
Is the groom encouraged/egged-on to be self indulgent?
And why does the couple not discuss what she wants before they start filming? Surely she has said I want this style location, this style of dress... then he chooses the opposite and she gets all upset. What was your friend of a friend's experience?
DatTardisDoh ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:01:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You should watch some of r/northernlion 's content. One of his friends, Dan Gheesling was on Big Brother, and will talk about it a lot.
EuniceBKidden ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:26:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if it counts as reality TV but I was on the Ricki Lake show in the late nineties and I was surprised how much we were questioned and coaxed backstage by the producers. We also had to film a date that was anything but real, and the camera man kept trying to start drama between us the entire outing. At the end of the date we simply ditched the camera man and and hid at a movie theater.
Lucky_leprechaun ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:30:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't know if you think Jerry Springer counts.....it's not really "reality" tv, but I knew a girl who went on the show in the early 90's. The "topic" was "Honey, I have something to confess to you" and the concept was that she and her bf had traveled to the show so he could confess his deep dark secret (that he had cheated and it was her best friend). Every single person knew ahead of time and the idea that the "confession" onstage is the first time she's hearing this is ludicrous. Also, she said that ahead of time, the producers were actively pumping her up, "can you believe she did that to you?" "your best friend! what a traitorous bitch!" "Don't you just want to smack her one?" and they also let her know that if (when) she popped her friend on stage (before Steve could lumber up there and stop the fight) that the show would cover any and all legal probs that may arise. And every person got paid to be there and flights/hotels all covered.
nachodogmtl ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:12:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would love to hear about anyone's experience with the show "Mystery Diners". Everything about that show seems staged af.
sweetcheeksberry ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 20:12:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My only experience with this is one of those decorating/remodeling shows came to a place I worked. I was really happy at first but then it was just all fake. They kept taking takes of people just meeting each other. Over and over. They directed people how to behave, what to say, etc. And! They said I was too ugly to be in the shot. Very loudly and angrily. Like I merely existed to prevent them from taking pretty pictures of $10,000.00 stainless steel stoves.
PM_ur_Rump ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:51:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My old roomie was on MTV's "The Friendzone."
He was admitting that he was in love with his best friend. They had actually been dating for a couple years, and were on a mutual friendly hiatus. Figured they'd get a paid night on the town out of it.
She ended up "turning him down" at the end, then "changing her mind" later. The producers loved it.
They actually did hook back up for a bit afterwards, so hey, it was kinda real.
finnw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:08:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nice to know it's occasionally the guests manipulating the producers instead of the other way round
dew7950 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 20:51:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
A friend of mine was a cast member on The Real World and I had the opportunity to visit for a few days. It's very controlled but the situations are pretty real.
Production had a way of letting you know what they were and weren't interested in. If I were to call my friend and talk about random BS they would constantly play the "you're call is being recorded" reminder over and over in your ear. This tended to stop when you asked about the juice in the house.
Also, once there, the places you are allowed to go are VERY limited. There was a binder full of locations of places that were cleared to film. These were the only places you could phone production and beg to go. Otherwise you were stuck in the house with no tv, radio, cellphone and absolutely no singing!!!!
colorsofshit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:33:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My best friend was on that stupid mtv "dating" show where the person goes to 3 bedrooms then meets the 3 owners and tries to figure out which room belonged to which person. My best friend was one of the 3.
What wasn't exactly rigged was the surprise "kidnapping" of the person. They had several interviews with several different people. When they told her they were doing their final interviews. My best friend figured that they had chosen her and would get her on that day so she quickly got rid of her playboys and porn and put them in her brothers room.
What was rigged was the guys reactions. They had him do them a couple of times, which I think is stupid because your first reaction is your most genuine one.
Another that wasn't rigged was who the person chooses to "go on a date" that mtv did not pay for. They also didn't need to go on any date, it was just a stupid show. He picked my best friend.
Another rigged part was the closing of the episode. He played the guitar and shared that in the show. She is Egyptian and loves to belly dance. They asked him to play and her to dance for him. She looked SO awkward and told me it was awkward.
I am sorry about the way I told you this, but I wanted to explain it as the show progressed.
andwhatt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i remember that show, man it was bad. I thought it was more faked than that
colorsofshit ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:40:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I probably should have mentioned this was all I remembered. I'm pretty sure there was more staged but she told me that his reactions were staged and he had to choose one. I'm not too sure if he already knew which rooms belonged to which girl. I don't remember that detail. But I do know that he chooses a person on his own but they don't necessarily have to go on a date
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 21:47:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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JosephND ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 22:25:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Best friend was on Pawn Stars. They record 7 or 8 interactions with different values (worthless, $10, $50, $100, $200, $400, etc) and then they decide which made the best fit with the episode/person/reaction etc.
My buddy didn't know which they would chose until it aired. They used the shit value one. My buddy still has what he was "selling" they used it as a prop basically.
nBob20 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:26:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was invited to audition for Top Shot, I was told shooting skills we're not important.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:17:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The one show I hoped was not scripted :(
Diarygirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:45:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's so weird, I don't even like guns but I loved that show. I can't explain why. I loved the host and the way he enunciated "Top Shot."
abzolut ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 22:43:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
House Hunters is totally fake. We were contacted by a casting producer after our offer was accepted and based totally upon the property that we bought. "Ideally, Iโd like to speak with you as soon as your purchase offer is accepted to give enough time for an audition process before you move in. Thank you for reading, and I hope we can feature your story..."
We decided not to go forward with it, as closing times are really fast in my area of the country and we had to focus on getting moved and starting a renovation instead of auditioning and touring other properties. I also wasn't keen about things like talking about our budget on national television and having them potentially edit our conversations so that we looked stupid. ("This house absolutely won't work because I hate the color of the dining room and I don't understand how paint works!") Also, I heard that they only give you something like $500 for appearing on the show, so it wasn't worth our time.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:03:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's like we've come full circle! At first, TV was all scripted sitcoms. Then it was taken over by cheap reality TV, which did away with pesky writers and stories.
And now we're back to scripted TV, but for some reason they lie to us and tell us it's real.
envyxd ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:07:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend who was on MTV's Made back when we were in high school. The effects didnt last.
EnvidiaProductions ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:13:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was his name Kevin?
envyxd ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:39:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope
dubBAU5 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:12:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My sister is an editor for the bachelor, bachelorette, and bachelor pad. Everything is rigged down to the sentences they say between scenes.
fender1878 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:17:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a friend who's father was on Storage Wars. He owned a special effects company in Hollywood and built all sorts of props that blow up. The producers of SW came to his shop and asked him to build a "Hollywood" looking flame thrower that actually functioned. This flame thrower was then put in a storage locker that would be "won" by a person on SW's. The SW winner would then bring it to the FX shop to be appraised, at which point, my friend's dad was suppose to be completely amazed by the find and purchase it for a giant sum of cash because "he just had to have it."
haggy87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That actually explains a lot about those shows.
Code347 ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:25:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cops. Not rigged.
Orion_7 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:33:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was an extra on set during the Las Vegas episode of WWE Divas in like 2014? Basically they all hang out in the same huge tent near the pool at the Palms, shared drinks, laughs and tons of good food. Had almost 3 of the bartenders at their whim. Then when it was time to shoot they all acted like complete idiots and as if they all hated each other.
It's fun sitting in a pool while the crew does 10 takes of the same actress acting suprised about some gossip "she just heard" so they get it right. So basically everything you see is an act.
ScrewThis1029 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:52:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's what I figured. I love that show, but I know it's fake just like the actual wrestling program itself.
Coredejour ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:47:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I "auditioned" for the Last Comic Standing. I put quotes around audition because they already know who they're giving the real auditions too and it's not anyone in that long line that they show in the beginning of the show. After waiting for 5-6 hours in line you finally get in the audition room. One of the guys with a headset is herding you along with 6 other people into a room. Forms a circle and has everyone take turns doing a 2 minute stand up act. No one of importance was present. The people they're giving real auditions too are semi pro comedians. Comedians who have been at it for sometime. None of that "off the street" shit. In all sincerity I was more upset about the fact that people traveled for days to come to the audition. Mothers standing in line with their kid(s). Needless to say I never watched that show ever again.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 06:43:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
"Last Comic Standing" had a problem since the "auditions" of Season 2. Though this article made note of Drew Carey complaining about Ant being put on the show (back when it was a "The Real World"-style house) and Anthony Clark "ripped off his microphone in disgust", they actually showed another celebrity judge, Brett Butler (of "Grace Under Fire") taking off her mike and walking off from the Las Vegas auditions once the actual participants were announced.
I think this is why they changed the way they did the auditions from showing a ton of the amateurs to only showing the producers favorites. Note also, they started posting a huge disclaimer on each episode that the judges have an influence on the decisions, but producers have the final say.
TheChickWithGlasses ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 00:01:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never been on a show, but I worked for a goodly while in the entertainment industry. For shows like The Voice or America's Got Talent, the singers and musicians who make it "through" the "auditions" usually have some sort of low-level management or representation already. No one is totally "undiscovered." Your agent will shop you around and if you have the right look or sound or story, you'll get on the show. Problem is if you make it very far on the show, you will have ZERO say about your career from that point forward. So you're essentially giving up any artistic license. The contracts are scary as shit.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:19:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Doug Stanhope says that Bar Rescue was completely scripted. They made up all sorts of shit, hired some shitty looking guy to pretend to work there, etc.
All fake.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:24:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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thedesignproject ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:17:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks for explaining about competition shows with money. A couple of people mentioned that they're not rigged but didn't give any explanation.
azabyss ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:27:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I signed an NDA and want to adhere to it wrt details.
A co-worker of mine and I stumbled into helping on one those creature hunting shows on AP/Discovery/NatGeo. We work in media and the entire process of tying media discovery in with the show theme was 100% staged. Nothing presented actually happened. The segment did work in some "eye-witness" accounts of which two were scripted with specific information and two were locals with vague tall tale like stories they'd been telling for years but were presented as "new leads."
The most fun part was being behind the scenes with the crew. To a man they hated the talent and relentlessly talked shit about them, reveled who was sexing whom, drugs of choice, etc.
That day I learned that camera men on unscripted shows get screwed from union wages. And that fact makes them bitter towards the talent.
Unrelated, I often have contact with people from shows on History, Discovery, etc. for interviews. My contacts sync across platforms, so it's taken mighty willpower to not drunk dial Giorgio Tsoukalos with ancient astronaut theories.
Bigger celebs always have someone call for them and use some third party line. Z listers often just give their cell phone.
Unrelated [2], I worked at AT&T back in the 90s. A friend of mine knew someone who was Harrison Ford's nanny in Jackson Hole, Wyoming. You couldn't just search names country wide in the AT&T database, you had to have qualifiers. Zip code was one. Jackson Hole didn't have many. So I found Han Solo's home phone. Was 100% certain because the billing address went to a firm in LA. So many drunk nights tempted to go to a pay phone and call him.
The number was on a little triangle torn from an AT&T handbook. I kept it in my wallet for a long time. When I finally changed wallets, probably 8 years later, I ran across the number tucked away in one of the pockets. I donated that wallet to a thrift shop and left the number in there.
e/a few letters
felurian42 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:27:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I was on a show about shopping for a home. It's fake. You have already purchased a home and are in escrow when you tour your new property and two decoys. Then you pretend to pick your house and put in an offer.
MrMaltvinegar ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 01:11:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I lived above a bar that got picked for the show "Bar Rescue" and can say 90% of that show is phony, not to mention that their production crew was a gromup of asshats. The bar they picked was in a very working class, blue collar part of town that did not jive well with most of the people filming and always seemed to piss off somebody. The show was crazily phony too with trucked in actors to make drama on the production nights. The night of the first reveal had a ratio of 25% locals to 75% actors inside, with the actors receiving texts to throw drinks and yell throughout the night. It was an extra nightmare for myself because for two weeks I was constantly getting my car trapped in with their equipment and lights shined directly into my apartment. The shittiest part was that the rehab priced all of my friends out of their bar for our weekly gatherings. I used to get scotch and sodas the size of my head for $2.50, good times.
Dosca ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:19:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend that was on a season of Worst Cooks in America and he told me that while the interactions with some contestants and meal preparation were mostly real, there were suspicious contestants that he was certain were actors. They never spoke about their own lives at home or their backstories and was really likely to win challenges despite the quality of the meal. He told me that during a challenge, the meal he prepared was liked across the board from all the guest judges, but the other contestant's mediocre meal still got him through to the next round. He also said that the producers would always try egg on feuds when they were interviewed to talk to the camera at the end of every day. Pretty typical stuff but it's all real.
chadfromthefuture ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 01:50:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My cousin was on The Real World. Producers patched together scenes to make it seem like a guy was depressed, drinking heavily, and heart-broken when he was just bored.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:58:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which city?
chadfromthefuture ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 02:59:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Seattle!
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:50:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh...the slap season. :/
magykmaster ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:35:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Late reply, but here's a response I wrote to a similar thread. It's about America's Got Talent.
The way these shows are taped are super manipulative. When they tape interviews with the contestants they make sure to ask all sorts of questions with answers that can make you look good or bad depending on how they want you to seem. One act that comes to mind is a singing act from BGT. She was this older, not so attractive, lady who spoke about being shy, "but when she sings, she totally opens up". The whole intro bit where they tell you about her is made to compare her to Susan Boyle in the viewer's mind . They even play I Dreamed A Dream in the background to reinforce this. So when she comes out, everyone snickers because she's ugly, and the viewer feels superior, thinking she'll be amazing. Then she sings and she's absolutely terrible. And the viewer is surprised, just as the producer wanted him to be.
Any time you see a crowded room, assume it's half as crowded as it looks. They're really good with those cameras. By the red carpet towards the end of the seasons you'll see people cheering and acting excited. They're just random people. The pictures they want the performers to sign? Those were handed out.
There are so many other "dirty" little secrets about the show (and any other reality show) but I'm half asleep do I can't think of them.
Source: Went to a bunch of performances, had backstage passes, appeared on the show at a point.
InTupacWeTrust ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:48:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Please share some more when you're not sleepy
magykmaster ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:19:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Still sleepy, but some more stuff popped in my head.
They're also very manipulative of the perception of their performers. I believe that the votes do decide on who wins, but the studio pushes us into voting for who they want to win, who will be best for the network.
One example of emotional manipulation stuck out to me. This may have been on BGT, but it's a similar concept. You may recall Susan Boyle. She was a singer on BGT who was somewhat unattractive and slightly awkward. There was this buildup that she would embarrass herself, but you find yourself feeling empathy with her. The judges were exchanging glances, audience members seen smirking. Then Susan belts out a beautiful rendition of 'I dreamed a dream'. Everyone is ecstatic, standing ovation.
Fast forward a few years. A similar story pops up. An unattractive singer. But this time, the buildup is that she'll be good. She talks about how singing 'let's her express herself' and how she's so shy, karaoke is her only chance to be outgoing. You find yourself defending her. You say'everyone will laugh at her because she's ugly. But I know she'll be great.' And throughout all this a song is playing in the background. 'I dreamed a dream'. Just like Susan Boyle. Oh this girl will be good, you think. She'll show the world. Beauty isn't represantative of a person. And just because she's a little awkward, doesn't mean we should shun her.
So she walks on stage. Takes a breath. And starts barking like a dog.
The show created an expectation that she would be good, using Susan Boyle as concrete. They built up your expectation so the reveal would be that much more shocking. And they did this without you knowing. They never mention Susan. But they subtly compare the two.
And to be clear, the show isn't necessarily bad for doing this. But it's hella manipulative.
EDIT:
Wow, I am sleepy. I already said all of that on my previous post. Time for bed.
AzureBalmung ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 04:36:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My family won a "Pimp my Ride" contest where they took our old RV and decked it out with a bunch of new features in "2 days" on the Outdoor Life Network. The show itself was amazing, and they flew us down to Daytona and did this huge blowout on the racetrack. The actual process of renovating, replacing, and adding all the advertised new features of the RV took close to 4 months, and they never replaced the motor, so the RV ended up lasting another year and a half, but we still ended up with a free trip to Daytona for a few days, and probably close to 100,000 dollars worth of free stuff added to the RV, so I'm nowhere near complaining.
cwm2355 ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 05:59:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
About 7 years ago a friend of mine was on a reality show here in Canada called "Last 10 Pounds", where you were given a personal trainer and dietician and they follow your journey to losing the weight.
Real: She actually lost 10 pounds (maybe more).
Fake: Basically everything else. There's a scene where they go to your house and open the cupboards and throw away all your junk food while the dietician comments on it. The dietician was an actress and the food was planted. The workout scenes were almost all fake, because people actually working out doesn't look good on camera. The scene (which I was in!) where she was "busted" eating pizza at a work meeting with coworkers was actually filmed in her condo common room with friends posing as coworkers. Goes on and on.
NWBoomer ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 06:30:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ty Pennington came to our town to do an episode of Extreme Makeover for a family we know. Because they do the work quickly some of it was shoddy workmanship, looking good on TV but poorly done. Within a yearmthe property taxes on the improved house were more than the family could afford so they liquidated the house.
NoviceApproach ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:47:16 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have read that this happened to the majority of the families. If they are too "poor" to buy a house to contain them, how the hell do you think a surprise few grand on taxes is going to go over? Not saying people on there are poor, just getting the short end of the life stick
Braydee7 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:28:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I worked on a show on HGTV where people would buy a house and flip it.
The drama is not real. One episode they flooded a house on purpose and blamed it on a leaky pipe.
What is real is the risk of losing money. I worked on the show because I work in real estate with his investors, and this guy lost money or broke even on many of the properties. They dont show the full cost of rehabs, or that they have to pay interest on the money they are borrowing to fund the deal, and filming REALLY slows things down.
someToast ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:38:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every time theyโre going through the house estimating and toss off $8,000 for a full kitchen remodel, my wife and I yell at the TV.
Braydee7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:15 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's not actually all that unreasonable if they aren't tearing down walls or building islands. They have all the materials, quartz counter tops, glass back splash, tile floors, recessed lighting, tile floors, and cheap stainless steel appliances. Lots of greys and whites. Its standard and its what people like. I work on lots of flips, I typically estimate a kitchen on a midsize to smaller home to cost about 7k, but we do the same type of thing every time.
JtHa77 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 22:45:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ctrl+F "Dog the Bounty Hunter"... Whew
ghyti_is_fish ยท 12 points ยท Posted at 16:07:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wasn't on, but i worked in reality tv. The answer is, none of it's real. If something real happens, it's written down, rewritten for story, and reshot for the show in whatever location they need.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:42:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Please tell me what goes on with these paranormal shows. I think they're bullshit and it cracks me up to watch them.
Booty_Is_Life_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:47 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From a couple comments i read that said it was all fake and another said it was real except for some of the noises they put it at the end so im a bit conflicted on whether or not it is real
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:05:37 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Those who say it's 'real' are the ones who believe in ghosts. Not even the guy Steve who has been with GH for many years even said he's never once seen a ghost. One of the original female crew members, Donna did a radio interview about GH. She spilled the beans on them and talked about the incidences we watched on TV that were faked. She also said that Jason Hawe (?) and Grant treated some of the crew members like total shit. She basically said they are douchebags.
Booty_Is_Life_ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:33:10 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was hoping it was real.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:39:28 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well, if you believe in ghosts you should go ghost hunting and find out for yourself.
ghyti_is_fish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:41:21 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From a friend who used to do Ghost Hunters, i know that they have rigged some of the stuff, like sheets or lamps moving. and some noises are other crew doing it. Some is real tho, but real as in unexplained, while others are planned so you don't have a complete waste of money.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:59:52 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I read that the guy Steve who has been with GH for many years said in an interview that he's never seen a ghost ever. You would think that if ghosts exist he would have seen at least one. They've been in some scary places.
boizee ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 23:26:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My neighbor was on America's Next Top Model. She said that a lot of that was scripted. They gave her a whole persona that she was supposed to follow. When I watched the season she was on, they made her seem really bitchy and unfriendly while in reality she is one of the kindest people I know.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 06:54:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not surprised. There have only been one or two people proven to be unpleasant outside of the show, and that was Adrianne Curry, who won season one, and Renee Always, who was a finalist, but is now in prison.
I almost don't blame Adrianne, mostly because she was the first, and apparently not given a lot of guidance as to how to proceed with her career once she won. When she mentioned this to the media, she was blacklisted from the show. So, she ended up doing other reality shows instead.
elllephant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:14:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd love to know who your neighbour is! That show reeks of scripting and heavy handed editing tbh.
mallicklocal ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 16:43:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Depends on the show. Some things are super fake, some are fairly real. The only things try at are untrue on a show, like, say, Timber Kings, is that there is a director there stirring up conflict
locks_are_paranoid ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:49:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My uncle was on a talk show, and he said they actually scripted most of what he said.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:55:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wish Rodney Alcala would answer this somehow
shinypretty ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:33:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
BOOM goes the dynamite!
NPO_Keto_Bro ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 17:56:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
South Beach Tow is 100% staged. My brother was an actor who pretended to be the assistant of a person being towed. And from what he told me, everything about it is staged.
kbgames360 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:28:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Doesn't it say in the titles that they use reenactments?
KitKatMasterJapan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:38:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wait... do people think that show is real? Bernice is a treasure, but I never thought any of that was real.
Tall_LA_Bull ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:36:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've worked on reality TV shows...they're completely fake. Producers decide exactly what's going to happen at every step, because they want maximum drama for minimal money. They're not taking any chances on boring people winning or things going off the rails and over budget.
NoonecanknowMiner ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 18:44:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A cousin of mine was on that show "Strong" on NBC. She was eliminated early, and when she got back, she said everything was fake. They didn't film anything she said, and focused on others more and manufactured drama.
KiNGofKiNG89 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:33:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Havent been on one, but one of the episodes of HGTV's show "Property Brothers" was filmed in a furniture store I worked at.
They basically has the customers reading from cards during the filming, everything was 100% scripted.
scubahana ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:33:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on a dating show on Much Music in 2009; while it wasn't scripted there was some obvious staging required. I didn't live in Toronto so we put me in front of a random house and had my date drive up and pick my up from 'home'. We would be told hella basic instructions (he's going to walk up and you guys are going to introduce yourselves) and on occasion we did retakes of some things like getting into the limo and such, but otherwise it was pretty free.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:38:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
From doing the takes to watching the end result, was anything placed out of order? Conversation or otherwise.
scubahana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:45:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was surprised that it was pretty much in order. We shot the intro clips after the date on the first day (there were two days of shooting, the date and then the judging) so each of us daters were off-camera while the other had their showcase reel done, but it was shot and cut in the same order.
tooz8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And how was the date? lol
scubahana ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:50:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It was fun and amusing but we didn't hook up in real life afterward. We took the filming and all as an opportunity to have a good time and poke a little fun at ourselves. We had good onscreen chemistry but not a romantic one to carry it on.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 19:57:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure this is fake, per se, but Lady Gaga was on MTV's Boiling Points before she became famous.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:03:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A friend worked on Take me Out, its kind of like a real life Tinder. He said he knew for definite 90% of the guests were paid to go on the show and fake everything.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:23:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was he working on the UK or US version?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:14:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
UK version.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:14:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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andwhatt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:46:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
cool! what about the always raining and going over budget bit? I swear, every single time... what house was yours?
senorswank ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:14:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have been on the crew of numerous reality shows. The only one that was 90% real was Hoarders.
oncie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:38:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Explain, do people really come in and go, well I'm gonna throw literally all your stuff away?
senorswank ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:47:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No thats all real. The home makeovers are cosmetic in nature. Most of those houses get condemned.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:20:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most of them have to be, I'm guessing. The only halfway "neat" hoarders were in Season One, before what I call "the poop people" started being featured.
Stickeris ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 20:58:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I work on an unnamed reality show, there is a lot of coaching, but all in all, most of the drama is real. In fact there is a lot we don't show because we don't want to ruin these people's lives. That said, good editing heightens the "reality" making things seem way more dramatic
CynicalWaffles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:01:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tease me, is it on MTV?
Stickeris ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:20:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope
Chuck_Mcbuck ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:14:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm in the final process of securing a full show with HGTV. I was amazed and terrified at our final "sizzle reel" which HGTV paid for. The footage is about 3.5 minutes long and turned out fantastic, but the amount of editing is intense. There are words omitted mid sentence. There are sentences clipped and pasted together. It actually makes me sound better, but you can see how easily they can and do twist your words.
Moarbrains ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 21:42:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend was in naked and afraid. She was a little bit of drama to begin with. But the editors pushed it to the max. Forcing her to pair with someone they knew wasn't compatible since they already weren't getting along before filming. There are stashes of supplies that the people get, off camera, but the producers get to decide who gets what.
In the end they got enough film to edit together the narrative they were looking for.
vivalanation734 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:03:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My wife and I were in the final round for house hunters international. We already had a place in Scotland and were scheduled to shoot our episode 6 months afterward. They pay to move all of your stuff out of your place and they pick two random places for you to look at. It's 100% fake.
andwhatt ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:48:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Of all the shows to fake that seems the worst choice. They could easily do it legitimately surely
tooz8 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:19:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know friends that were on HH too, same scenario...they already had their house, moved everything out and then back in.
GeeEhm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have friends that were on HH and a lot of the furniture didn't even get moved out. They moved some items into a truck out front, but other things were just shuffled around the house.
deodorant_moonbeams ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:11:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A guy I used to work with was on teen moms. Mostly accurate but in his follow up episode they paid him $100 to say he lived in a tent in his girlfriends yard. That wasn't real...
andwhatt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:49:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How was he related to the teen mom? A family member?
Kefro ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:15:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A teacher of mine was on a TV show when she was teaching, so we had a sub for about three weeks. It was a house makeover show and she said it was complete bullshit. They renovated her house in three days, then they came back the next day and filmed the, A few months later scene. Her house looks nice though.
Barbie_and_KenM ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:17:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on a dating show and for the most part it was pretty real.
Most of the other "couples" in the restaurant were actors and only 3-4 tables were actual dates.
Some things were semi scripted or at least they made me do. Like I had to go to the bathroom and call my friend telling him what I thought of her, which I would never do. (Yea there were camera's in the bathroom)
kazky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:08:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was told they actually charge you ยฃ70+ per person for the meal there? Is that true?
Barbie_and_KenM ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:16:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So before the show the producer gave me $100 cash to pay for the meal. The gist was that they wanted the dynamic of who had to pay at the end of a first date. We were at a really fancy restaurant too, so the meal was well over $100.
I hated the chick so I said we're splitting it.
FallenAngelII ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:21:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've only ever been at the audition stage of a reality show, but it's pretty interesting stuff that it's generally well-known (as far as I know):
It was for Idol, the Swedish version of Pop Idol (it has much more well-known younger brother, American Idol)
No, I have no delusions of grandeur. I did it on a lark. "I wonder how mean they'll be". It was for the first season and nobody knew yet what the judges would be like. We could only assume they'd try to emulate the American version (they did).
I assume that the Idol (Sweden) did things the same as as most if not all other versions of Idol do things. It makes sense.
So, here's what they don't say on TV or spread around:
There are two stages of audition, one a kind of pre-audition held a few days before the final audition and one that's a final audition.
They're held at the same venues. When you arrive for the pre-audition, you have to sign a contract. The contracts allows them to show your segment on TV but also stipulates that if you make it to the "real" audition, you must return wearing the same clothes, make-up (if any), jewelry (if any) and hair.
There are cameras at both auditions. They film you and then smush the footage together to make it appear that it was from the same audition. I assume that this is to maximize good footage.
The pre-audition is lead by several different juries, none of which contain jurors from the "real" jury, spread across the venue in different rooms made to look exactly the same (for the cameras). This is to maximize the number of contestants the juries can audition. The pre-juries then choose the best and the worst, i.e. who'll make for good TV, and send them on to the "real" audition. I mean, do you honestly think Simon Cowell will personally watch tens of thousands of auditionees each season?
The pre-audition jury consisted of only 2 people whereas the "real" jury consisted of 4 (always 4 in Idol (Sweden)). I returned to audition for the last series of "Idol" to support a friend (mostly to hang out) and just to see if anything had changed and everything was the same. Still only 2 people in the pre-jury.
While the "real" jury wasn't present for the pre-audition, the hosts were, conducting interviews and entertaining people. IIRC, they were there from start to finish. Poor guys.
So while there was a bit of subterfuge, at least during the audition stage, nothing was scripted, everything was real. We received zero instructions besides "Go there now. Wait here now. Go in there now. You made it/didn't make it to the next stage" while some of us got pulled aside for interview.
The Swedish production crew and "real" jury were surprisingly nice and meticulous about giving everyone a fair chance. I had to go out of town between the auditions (I made it to the final audition) and didn't know that the town I had to spend a few days in a little shithole with no trains back to the capital before 11 A.M., so I got back to the "real" audition late (as in: They gave me a designated time to come for the "real" audition. I was in one of the earlier waves, before lunch). I left my phone number on the registration form and they even tried to call me, but my phone was dead or I left it at home since I remember them telling me they weren't able to reach me. When I got there several hours late (but not before auditions had wrapped for the day), nobody treated me badly or were angry at me. I was given a spot in an upcoming wave of auditions. Unfortunately, I had just spent the last 5 hours on a train and had a massive block in my ears and was therefore unable to tell how loudly (or, in my case, quietly) I or others were speaking or singing so the "real" jury told me that while they thought I had a nice singing voice, it was way, way too low for them to make an accurate judgment, so that was the end of the road for me, but they encouraged me to come back next year. So as long as you're not a delusional nitwit who can't carry a tune but think you're all that, at least the Swedish jury will be nice to you (I didn't make it to the real jury on my 2nd try. I assume it's because I veered way off-tune in the chorus due to choosing a too high registrar thinking I could handle it (I couldn't)).
A part of my audition made it onto the show during a compilation of also-rans (as a kind of "Didn't make the cut, but not horrible" segment). I got bombarded with friends commenting about how they'd seen me on TV. Once, years later, I even met a girl who had the 1st season on DVD and who recognized me from that tiny little snippet.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:27:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't been on this show, but you can definitely tell that things have been staged. Mystery Diners is about restaurant owners hiring undercover employees to determine how they're losing money and who's to blame for it. If you ever watch the show, you can clearly see the BS in every scene. Everything tends to happen when the host of the show mentions it. They make it look like it's a coincidence, but viewers are way more intelligent than they think, you can even predict the outcome.
TululaDaydream ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:50:35 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I auditioned for the X Factor.
So the footage you see of the auditions, where everyone is really excited and waving, is all choreographed for the cameras. The fast paced queue walking into the audition venue is also staged, because the queue itself is staged. We walked past the cameras, and filed into the stadium and were separated into sections to just sit and wait. We auditioned in front of producers - twice! - before the successful people got given a Golden Ticket (no joke) to proceed to audition at a later date in front of the famous judges you all know and loathe.
The excitement you see from the auditions is also, sadly, all staged. We waited from as early as 6am until 10am outside in the freezing cold before we even got the chance to begin the official queue around the metal gates, and stayed there till noon, also in the cold March wind and rain, until we could go inside. I personally then waited another four hours before I could audition.
It was a loooooong day, it was fucking brutal, and after I failed my eventual audition I was relieved to go home and crawl into bed. I'd travelled from four hours away and stayed in Glasgow the night before to audition, and maybe I'm not famous, but I've never slept so soundly than the night I got home from that shit show.
gigabyte898 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:17:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
When I was in middle school I was in some sort of promotional video for a school supplies company. They made it look like a game show with two teams and whoever won got a years worth of school supplies.
The whole thing was scripted, nobody was even from the same school irl. Me and the other kids on our team were set up to be in an upper-middle class school and the other team was set up to be in a lower class school. We were told what questions were and how to answer them, as well as which team should buzz in first. They even gave us wrong answers to give so it would seem more authentic. The other team from the lower class school won by a lot, I guess they were going for a feel good underdog sort of thing.
The company did end up giving supplies to all the participants on both teams though. Before you ask I can't say which company, I remember they made my parents sign some sort of NDA. This was years ago though, I wonder if it's still valid
astray71 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:19:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My teacher from high school told us about how he was in a preliminary to get on Who Wants To Be a Millionaire. There were a bunch of contestants that got a few minutes to answer a handful of questions that were similar to the one's given on the actual show. He said he got the majority of them correct and they never called him back.
Bluefoot44 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:26:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also tried out. You had to get 30 out of thirty right. Then they do a quick interview. Then they maybe never call...
username_offline ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:21:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As someone who works in reality TV post-production - competition shows are all rigged, and docu-soaps are all heavily produced/edited to make the characters more likeable.
username_offline ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:22:32 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Storage wars, for instance, involves no real exchange of money, it's all a ruse
246011111 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:25:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know how you could possibly fudge American Ninja Warrior.
ipeeinyourshower ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:40:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've competed on ANW. The actual competition is not faked, but they do play up the "story" part that people have. Also some very good ninja athletes are not picked each year over some people who are obviously not going to do well because their story is better.
One of the hard parts of the show is that's it's all shot overnight, so like when I ran the course it was around 3am, so that was actually the hardest part of waiting for so long.
The actual competitor's are all super awesome, and everyone is really rooting for everyone to do well. The production crew is also super awesome and supportive!
Oh the walk on line is faked a bit. They usually can't camp out because of loitering laws, so they just check in each day a couple times a day to keep their spot in line.
delmar42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:17:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thank you. I've always wondered how the folks who have been "camping out for two weeks" in the walk-on line are able to stay properly fed/hydrated/rested/exercised for their time on the course. Not that I'd ever be able to do any part of the course, but I know I'd be a wreck after sleeping on the ground, etc., for that long.
ArchitectureOfRuin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:28:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Knew a dude who worked on Top Chef. Said the challenges were in fact timed, but that the Chefs got plenty of info an hour or so ahead of time. Also left an ample supply of booze laying about in the green room in order to get the emotions flowing for "confession cam". Also spread rumors amongst contestants and encouraged lots of shit talking. Standard issue reality show production, I imagine.
ArtVandelayIMEX ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:29:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A good friend of mine was on a once popular singing show that many "idolized". She made it through the first couple auditions and was about to go before the judges on tv. However, she was told that she has the talent but that her middle-class, suburban background was not interesting enough so she was dismissed.
Shabonde ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:58:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on a show with a southern family whose daughter did beauty pageants if that counts. I thought it was really a really fun experience! I was only around them for a couple hours one evening and a couple hours the next day. So it wasn't like I was a huge part of anything or got to know them.
With that being said, they seemed to be the people who were portrayed in the show even when the cameras were off. When the cameras were on they verbally/outwardly expressed it a little more, turned it up a notch if you will.
When they would film scenes when the characters would move from one room or building to another they would shoot the same thing two or three times in each room trying to show them leaving one room and entering another.
As they would do this the different people featured in the show would say random things about the environment and then a few seconds later the main camera man would say something like hey say that again but add this or say that again in this way and then you say this.
So they did elicit some responses among the people but it all seemed to originate in some way from the people. And then just expanded on to convey it better on a camera to people who are not there or altered a little to be funnier.
Nothing appeared to be scripted or explicitly planned out. This certainly could have been because the show was already a few seasons in and the characters had been scripted and the people just new how to play the role and what to do. It was just one small interaction and these were the things I was able to pick up.
5/7 perfect experience. Would do again.
adammillers ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:59:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My sister was on House Hunters, and they have already bought, moved into, and been living in the house they "select". In this instance the two houses shown they didn't select were still for sale, so they were empty, but the shots with the house they did select are staged. All of the furniture and possessions are pushed behind the camera for each shot, because they've been living there for some time. The whole "debate"about which house to get is completely acted out. One of the houses under "consideration" wasn't even a house they were looking at when they were originally house hunting.
They also type cast character traits. My sister is quite frugal and my brother in law is the one that spends the money, but that isn't as compelling of a story, so they reverse the roles for the episode and made it look like my sister just wanted everything without reason.
xtylerryanx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:16:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wow interesting. I have heard about House Hunters being really phony but this is just ridiculous lol thanks for sharing!
sixup ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. Can confirm. I had one of their many shows email me about using my house as one of the possible choices. Um. No. I believe they used the term 'honorarium' which means peanuts.
SatchmoCat ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:04:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Late, but has anyone worked on Kate+My 8?
Guruking ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:11:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Years ago when Road Rules was a thing (I assume it's been cancelled I don't watch tv) I saw a guy I thought I recognized. This guy Oscar and I went to high school together. The guy looked like him,talked like him, and when he stole a coast guard flag I knew it was him. Staged or not, they nailed his douchey personality.
RedTeamReview ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:16:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend who competed on the 6th season of Spike's Ink Master (the competition to find the best tattoo artist in the country). The tattoos and critiques were legit but most of the fighting was rigged. He told me that in his season one guy was asked to defend his master (it was master and apprentice season) in an explosive way and the guy with the swirly mustache went up and got really mad out of nowhere. It was in the first few episodes too and you can tell its fake because a lot of the fights do seem random.
Diarygirl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:17:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I gave up watching because I was sick of the fake drama.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:19:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nearly everything on the show I'm familiar with (a bridal show that ran for a couple seasons on TLC) was directed in some way by the producers. The business's original staff of elderly women was replaced with 20-something models; the customers were given incentives to purchase a gown on the show; "walk-in" customers were essentially auditioned; and there would be retakes to change wording or add energy or emotion.
Source: I'm related to the subject of the show, was around for the taping of a few episodes, and was asked to be on it.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:26:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If it's a game where contestants compete, and not one where judging exists, there is no rigging going on. That's big time illegal. I did a game show once and it was seriously regulated.
christocarlin ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:29:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A college friend was on the fake Prince Harry show. She won if I remember correctly.
DerpSherpa ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:50:23 on July 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I loved that show!!
xbtdev ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:34:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder if any of the hoarders (and their hoards) are fake. I mean, probably.
twomz ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:26:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nope, those are legit. It's a mental health issue.
seeyarelly ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:36:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What about MTV's The Real World? You can tell in the newest season that it's scripted and they write notes in the confessional to the cast. Or they would ask the cast member to do something if the cast member wanted to do something or go somewhere.
CynicalWaffles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
To start, they cast dramatic and eccentric people who will naturally have drama/hookup while on the show. These contestants cast can be easily manipulated and read lines fed to them in the confessional area. If you cast the right people, then the producers don't need to create tons of drama.
Riveris ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 00:50:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My grandmother's niece was on Four Weddings. She was lucky enough to be the bride portrayed as the mean 'villain' of the episode. She relayed it to her mother who relayed it back to us when we stayed there during our road trip. Apparently, they asked her what wedding things she hated, and she mentioned not liking outdoor weddings during it. It was promptly turned into a clip of her supposedly dreading the next wedding purely because it was outside. There were some other things too, but that's all I can recall off the top of my head.
ScrewThis1029 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:23:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Four Weddings is my guilty pleasure show. I love seeing the brides' reaction when the groom comes out of the limo.
What I never understood though, was that some of these people had $35k weddings, but no honeymoon? But then I realize that these couples probably do have an actual honeymoon and they attempt to win the second one.. Ha.
LongDongBlackKong ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:15:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone been on a jerry springer or Maury type show? I'd like to hear about those. Are people encouraged to fight or given more money if they do?
Printnamehere3 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:28:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Babysitter was on Springer. They told her and her boyfriend if he proposed to her on stage they would give them a ring. They also fudged their story a little.
LongDongBlackKong ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:29:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol. I knew they encouraged crazy shit.
Alucardmage ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:18:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is from a friend of a friend who was on hoarders. The people really do have hoarding problems but the staff would often move a lot of the owners stuff towards one area of the room to make it look worse in the shot.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:55:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This is what I was looking for.
Was your friend just a hoarder, or one of the folks whose plumbing stopped working?
I figured shenanigans, but I'm actually more intrigued to go back and rewatch some of it.
Alucardmage ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:28:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was just a hoarder. He was one of the milder cases. Tons of collectibles but no infestations or hazardous living conditions. Apparently they were upset with him because he didn't throw tantrums when they asked him to throw out stuff.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:49:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That's "Hoarders'" bread and butter: the fits. This is the stuff they put in the commercials for the show, and the clips on their website. One of the most popular fits was a woman who had been a NYC resident until 9/11, and moved to Las Vegas. Her big fits were any of her 9/11 memorabilia (she had fucking tons of it in her townhouse, including homemade items), and comically, a Darth Vader Mr. Potato Head.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:40:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on Judge Karen in 2008.
It wasn't necessarily rigged per se, but there was an arbitration agreement whereby me and my baby-mama agree to let Sony Films Television arbitrate our "disagreement" also giving us an appearance fee and flying us to NYC etc.
The agreement states that, as the defendant, if I am ruled against, SONY pays whatever the monetary amount. If I am ruled for, there's no money to be paid anyway. Win / win.
Some producer called beforehand and explained they're buying your story and placing it in a legal setting for entertainment and advertising revenue.
Not really rigged but. Not really real.
SEND_ME_BITCHES ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:46:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine was on cheaters. None of it is real, he met some girl at q bar a few nights before they were on the show, who had just met a producer of the show, who told her if she had a guy to do it with they would make an episode. My friend said sure. So they made an episode. Everything is staged, and my buddies acting is amongst the worst in the world. Really classic episode though. Someone gets slammed on the hood of a truck at a gas station during the confrontation (all staged).
AtariiXV ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:03:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really want someone from naked and afraid to answer. Ive alway wondered about that one.
aceyu ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:08:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on a hour long reality show where I lived in a house with 27 cameras in it in 2007. Decision House was produced by Dr Phil's son and starred the judge from divorce court. Most was real, except the house itself didn't have windows but fake windows with real plants "outside". and no ceilings. AMA!
InTupacWeTrust ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:51:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That sounds really cool. Did you enjoy your time?
aceyu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:42:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No. They set me up and next thing you know I'm ON CAMERA with Dr Phil himself and he is yelling at me. seriously.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:54:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Googles "Decision House"
Wow. How in the hell did that make it to TV?
coitadinho ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:25:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend's brother is a cameraman and has worked on the Bachelor and Bachelorette for three seasons. He says that a lot of the drama is provoked by Production Assistants who often egg on these instances. Basically, a lot of the drama you see on the shows is more or less staged (surprise!). On the other hand, he says majority of the contestants on the show are incredibly delirious and really believe that this is their true path to true love (another surprise!).
Alkquinn ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:01:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on 50:50 (a UK KID's game show) when I was in school.
90s kids may be happy to know that it is completely real. I never got selected for a game, but a couple of my friends did. And they got them ready for games pretty quickly. We even got to keep our T-shirts and got a bag of freebies. Best school trip ever.
januh ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 04:10:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ctrl-F
"Kenny vs. Spenny"
..Phew
Flyingtypewriter ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 07:44:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tarek and Christina?
sixoctillionatoms ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:01:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I posted this somewhere else and it got deleted, I'm not sure why. I used to work for a company that rented helicopters. Usually people rented them to fly them (go figure), but one time the show Storage Wars rented one to bury in shit inside a storage container and act like it was treasure someone stumbled upon. The whole show is a fake.
Edit: grammar
dankmem3r ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:52:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In British television, it's really surprising how some of the most pointless, needlessly rigged shit there is. My sister once appeared on a show in which they demonstrated how high-end shops can sell regular cheap clothes as 'vintage clothes' for an inflated price. So they decided to experiment by OPENING THEIR OWN SHOP AND DOING THE EXPERIMENT THERE. They must've not been getting enough reactions or something, because they asked my sister to play along with the act of buying the overpriced 'vintage' clothes and then pretend to be surprised when the presenters confronted her and told her that she just got fucking scammed, which really cringeworthy since she can't act for shit.
ZeBarbu ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 13:57:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not about reality show but more tv games here in France. My sister's best friend went on something like "The price is right".
Before the show, they make you sign a contract. It says that if the producers think the show will not be good enough, they have the right not to broadcast it, and in this case, you don't get the gifts/prizes you won in the game. Basically, if it's not broadcasted, then it did not happen. If you don't sign, they pick someone else.
That's why most people in tv games appear to be in some state of hysteria and overdo everything. They put on a show to have their prizes.
CFL227 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:54:56 on September 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a reality TV Casting Producer. Unfortunately, most shows are scripted in some way or another. You can't hire an entire production crew and just hope exciting things happen. However, there are a few shows that are true reality; American Ninja Warrior, Married At First Sight, Real World. My husband hates watching tv with me because I ruin everything.
twomz ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 14:54:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Calling /u/graham_lrr
What percentage of strip search was scripted?
Graham_LRR ยท 9 points ยท Posted at 18:31:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
None. We didn't even do the whole "not-scripted scripting" bullshit where you prime the talent with prompts like, "hey, so-and-so said X so you should be upset about that..."
I know it happens, I don't think our show was somehow "better" because of how we did it, but we didn't want to do it that way. We just wanted to make the show actually real, and we discovered that you can get some amazing human stories out of actual people without manipulative production.
To note: we realized partway through that putting people in one big house, and subjecting them to an exhausting shooting schedule meant everyone was tired, and therefore more emotionally fragile. That wasn't our intent, but it definitely clicked, "Oh! This is why shows DO this!"
IMA_Catholic ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 19:08:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You know those girls who stole the lemons? Total setup! They got paid to do that not a bit of it was real!
muthafuckenkatlaydee ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 01:10:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Those goddamn lemon stealing whores!
[deleted] ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:06:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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AryaStark20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:36:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That wouldn't be four in a bed would it?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:42:56 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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AryaStark20 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:45:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Ah OK. I wasn't aware there was another reality show centered on b and bs. I wish you luck for when the programme airs.
I like watching four in a bed but yeah I agree on how snipy it can get. Especially when someone underpays for their stay by about ยฃ10 cause they found a bit of dust and it turns into a mini version of Eastenders lol.
Calkky ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 18:51:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The only anecdote I can relate to this is that I know a girl that was on The Voice. They want to create a narrative about the contestants being amateurs that just need their shot at fame. She was sold as being a "singing nanny." They had a little run-up showing taking care of kids and what not. The reality? She'd been a hard-gigging frontwoman in bands for YEARS. One of her bands opened up for Bon Jovi about 10 years ago. The Voice was her last swing at "making it." She got pretty far in the competition and now she's wringing out the last bit of juice she can from having done it. There's always a new season of The Voice and a new crop of "overnight stars."
delmar42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:29:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As an interesting side note, a Bon Jovi song came on the radio right when I was reading your comment.
The3rdWorld ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 20:23:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I guy i know went on Jeremy Kyle, they put him up in a hotel and in the morning the researchers met him and they all had a drink together and a laugh, then he went on and Jeremy Kyle goes 'you've been drinking today before you came on, i can smell it on you!' and made out he was the worst person in the world.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:18:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I completely believe this. They brought the show to America, for a couple of years, and while Jerry Springer made it seem like he was just trying to get the people to get along, Jeremy Kyle was doing dumb things like...
One of the shows was a man and his abused wife. The man was massive, like 6'5". So JK decided to, first, stand there and yell at the man, who was glaring at him, arms crossed over his chest. When JK didn't get a reaction, he grabbed a chair, and stood on it, and yelled in the guy's face, "I'M NOT YOUR WIFE!!!! I'M NOT AFRAID OF YOU!!!!" It could be considered brave, except there was security there to rescue him if the guy he was yelling at decided to hit him.
shannibearstar ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 23:19:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Well we all know the Project Runway HAS to be rigged since the girl who mad the same 5 outfits the entire time won. Gotta win the FA/HAES ticket.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:58:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I really hope you mean Season 1, because I'm still bitter about Kara Saun and all her deep V necks, and free custom made fashion week shoes.
shannibearstar ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:58:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That too! But Im talking about season 14.
Aiku ยท 7 points ยท Posted at 05:35:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The lighting is definitely rigged.
mjohnsimon ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 17:06:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Anywhere between 95% - everything is rigged.
Here are some examples; a friend was getting her car towed by the same people from South Beach Tow. They asked if she was interested in being in an episode and she said no.
They were cool with it, but almost immediately, came in 2 actors. An hour later, they started filming and the 2 actors ended up making a huge scene about their precious car being "towed".
I don't know what happened afterwards though but she did get her car back by the end of the day (a very long tedious day).
But from my experience; there's a very popular show that a lot of young (and old) Cubans here like called "EL SHOW DE FERNANDO HILDALGO!"
The show is literally nothing more than a couple of guests, a band, and a bunch of half-naked girls dancing erotically or twerking wishing they chose different careers. I say that because the host is a creepy 70 year old man who tends to be touchy.
My dad and the band he used to play with was invited to play for their show and needless to say I was invited along with my mom. There was a grand total of 10 people in the audience and the studio was essentially empty.
To get around this; they played laugh tracks, cheering tracks, and they actually had cardboard cutouts of audience members!
I know this is not a reality TV show, but they do make a lot of skits or pranks for the show. 99% of the guests or people being "interviewed" / "pranked" on the street are just paid models.
DownvoteCommaSplices ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:39:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Paging Big Brother Winner /r/DanGheesling. Congrats on the family by the way, Dan!
CynicalWaffles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:55:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We basically know that Big Brother isn't rigged, but some contestants are fed lines regarding competitions in the diary room. Nothing that changes the outcome of the game, just makes for an easier-to-follow TV show.
Keybird ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:53:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a very good friend who was on Virgin Nation on MTV
The show basically revolved around following 18 year olds and seeing what their life is like being a virgin in a culture that is so awash with sex. They go on dates during the show and try to find love, because at the end of the season they have to decide whether or not they want to have sex.
The problem? My friend had fucked numerous girls before. I had personally hooked him up with women. They interviewed me before the show aired, but of course I claimed he was a virgin. I guess all of his other friends did too.
Also, half the time they told him what to say during the "personal" interviews. Essentially giving him emotions that fit the scene.
Hakobus ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 19:46:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've worked on a number of reality shows. Everything is rigged. At worst it's just people play-acting whatever the director asks of them. At best it's drama that's cobbled together from completely unrelated lines of dialogue and reaction shots from a completely different situation shot on a different day. It's all bullshit.
SecretlyStudly ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:58:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Backroom Casting Couch? There is no job.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:40:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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jeepcanada92 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:22:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm hoping your one of the hot lesbians on amazing race Canada.
Sigwrplwm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:15:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
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CynicalWaffles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:03:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Curious, what do you think it is? Could it be amazing race Canada?
Y6Y1Y9 ยท 6 points ยท Posted at 23:52:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I haven't been on a reality show as a cast member, but i work in Editing for reality tv. The amount every show is "rigged" or "faked" varies depending on each show and depending on each type of show. I can only speak to the type of shows i personally have worked on. My favorite show i worked on was a Jersey Show type of show. Where 8 cast members of a certain stereotype live in a house together and party and get into shenanigans. Literally the same show as Jersey Shore just instead of "Guidos" it was a different stereotype i won't name as not to give the show away (former coworkers might be on here, i don't know). Nothing was ever outright scripted or planned ahead of time. From my personal experience on the shows i've been on (until my current gig at least which is very pre-planned), none of it was ever scripted ahead of time.
What they did was when casting the people to be on the show they'd do psych profiles on everyone and hand pick people they knew would fall in love with each other, fight with each other, argue with each other and get into drama with each other. Then you give them a house to live in and essentially lock them in together for 3 months (hence the no phones, no tv, no music). This accelerates the time it takes for the people on the show to get close with each other and for them to start getting crushes and start finding out major differences they have about each other so the drama can happen. So instead of taking the time to write scripts and hire actors and tell everyone what to do.
They basically do the equivalent of get a bunch of ingredients to make a bomb, light a fuse, and wait for the explosion and it's ensuing damage. That's mainly where the genius of those kind of shows like the Real World and Jersey Shore lies. You pick the right people to be on the cast and all the production crew has to do is make sure they get everything on camera. Which is why they have massive camera teams of 20 people PLUS security cams in the ceilings to make sure they catch everything. As far as other "rigged" aspects. For legal reasons, when the cast goes out to a bar for example, they have to pick from a list of bars that have approved the show can film inside and they have to put a notice outside of the bar that basically says anyone who comes inside the bar automatically agrees to being on camera.
Which is why you often times get people who come into the bar knowing there's a show filming inside and want to get their fifteen seconds of fame by picking a fight or trying to hook up with a cast member on the show. Any music you hear on a show like the Real World or Jersey Shore is not the music the cast was actually listening to in real life. Usually the bars they go to play music the show doesn't have the legal licensing rights to play on the show so they mute it out in post and use stock music. Unless there's a special circumstance where they get permission to use the real song that was actually there like if it was a live band who isn't signed to a record label.
That's also the reason why on any of those shows you never see them playing music in the house. Ever. Same reason why they never have tvs in the house, they'd have to blur out whatever images were on the tv because the show wouldn't have the licensing rights to show that show/movie. This also works in the shows favor and adds to the people in a fishbowl effect that helps the cast get into drama faster. Those houses look cool, but it's basically solitary confinement with a bunch of people you may or may not like. People go a little bit stir crazy. Which is why some of the cast members lash out in ways they probably normally don't in real life. The situation is designed to turn all your dials to 11.
Sometimes if a cast member of a show says something that won't make sense to the viewer. That's usually when the producers will get that cast member into the confessional booth and have them explain it more so the audience gets it. Those confessionals are key to putting those Real World/Jersey Shore type shows together because those let you into each cast members head as a certain event is happening. When they film those confessionals the producer asks a cast member about something that might have happened a week ago but for the sake of editing they tell them to talk about it as if it's happening in the present.
The producers will also sometimes ask them loaded questions in order to get an answer they want out of them without actually telling them what to say. Again, every show is different and some rely on this more than others. The particular show i did was cast very well and by season 2, the cast knew how the producers wanted to hear things so they got good at saying what they'd usually say just in a very reality tv ready way. That show was the most fun show i've worked on. The cameras in the house were rolling 24/7 and we in Post Production got to see EVERYTHING. The sex, the drinking, the partying, the fights (verbal and physical). Easily one of the most fun times i've had working on a reality show. The cast was hilarious.
tilouswag ยท 5 points ยท Posted at 02:32:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Format pls.
Pewpew511 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 04:26:25 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I agree with the other guy. Formatting. No wonder reality tv like this blows. I guess everyone that works anywhere near it is stupid as fuck.
Y6Y1Y9 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 09:07:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Yes, because taking the extra time to properly format while typing on a phone is the ultimate indication of human intelligence above all else. Fuck off.
Pewpew511 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:24:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Omg this is turning into jersey shore!!!! Who should I play?!
joshp111 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:24:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Answer request: does anyone know about the producing that goes on with amazing race? I would love to hear about how everything works in that show
hypnotoadforprez ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 23:31:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In the last season, a couple from rooster teeth (Burnie & Ashley) took part in the race. Due to the demand from the fans, they have a done a few podcasts (that can be found on YouTube) talking about bts stuff, challenges, and how they approached each leg.
smallerthings ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:43:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It should come as no surprise to anyone, but shows where the main characters are essentially committing a crime are entirely fictional.
The people on the show have conversations on camera with producers all the time about "If I was really doing this, I'd..." trying to figure out how to present things to the audience.
BubbaChanel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I would agree, except for any of the Gypsy shows; wedding, sisters, etc.
soldiercross ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:21:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did an episode of a house cleanup show called Kim's rude awakenings.
Our house was pretty messy, but disorganized messy, not like full gross, just boxes and crap all over the place. Vacuuming needed ect.
They basically focused on a few rooms and had us clean those, they offered mostly zero help to us other than the garbage bin they rented for us. My mom was tasked with her own room and for a woman with MS and fibromialga this was quite difficult to handle.
They used a brief clip of a room and cat that wasn't ours. Because my sister had a bit more of a punkish look they presented her and told her to be rude and disobedient when she's a super nice and friendly girl and not rude at home at all. We're a nice family who gets along well but they really wanted us to play into these roles they outlined for us.
When the time was close to film the clean rooms they actually just moved some stuff since the task they gave us was way to much to get done in a weeks time. So the mess was just transferred to rooms we weren't filming in.
They were all pretty nice people but the amount of stuff that was faked was pretty annoying.
Dparker818 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:08:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My family sold a car to a smaller British car show. The only thing they lied about was that the car was already sold to them by the time they came to shoot the "sale" actually they had already taken it away and we're looking at it to make sure it was fixable and they brought it back to shoot. Also they weren't very prepared. They had no script, no lights, and no lunch. It was also 103* Fahrenheit and the host, who is a bigger, English guy, was sweating up a storm. Other than that it was pretty real.
37214 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Love Wheelers Dealers from the UK
Dparker818 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:41:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
yup, now what car was it?
37214 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:17:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Being in the States, seeing the cars they picked was a blast. And the guy who bought it honestly thought it was a steal, then the mechanic was like "dude, what in the hell?" Every. Single. Time. Speaking of, that mechanic was pretty awesome with his knowledge of random European cars. He knew all the little quirks of all these cars, which was incredible to me. It looked like a fun show even if they rarely made anything more than a few hundred pounds profit.
What car did you sell them? I only recall a few episodes: an old Jag v12 coupe, a few Rovers, BMW M's and the Ferrari were some of my favs. Haven't seen it in a while, though.
Dparker818 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:34:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
We were on this most recent season, where they buy cars in the western USA
Leafy81 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:10:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to be convinced that reality shows were actually really real. Now it's like they're not even trying anymore. Look at Alaskan Bush People. Its ridiculous.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I stopped watching that show when I found out that they actually don't live in the wilderness as the show depicts. They actually live in a very nice lodge and have all modern conveniences. Such BS.
Leafy81 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I tried watching it but it's over the top ridiculous and cringy whenever they interact with someone outside of the family. The accents were grating on my nerves too.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:23:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The accents and the voice fry. Ugh.
Leafy81 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:29:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think I'm glad that people doing vocal fry don't irritate me as much as some other things do. Like certain accents, they really get under my skin for some reason. I feel bad that it bothers me but I'm not sure how to make it not.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:01:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Vocal fry really really bugs me. I don't know if people do it on purpose or not. The only accent that I can't stand is French. Nothing against the French other than that.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't they get busted for fraud not to long ago? Something about taking money from the state.
Leafy81 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:15:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think so. That family just has problems. I wouldn't mind watching their real lives, I'd probably prefer it to the made up brown town b.s.
StickyCarpet ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:13:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There was a Restaurant Makeover show filming downstairs here, don't know the actual show name. They set up a craft services style tent in the street and put a wood shop in it. They built all of the renovations out of masonite, glue, staples, and a lot of brightly colored paint. The "renovation" pretty much fell apart in a month, but it did pull in a lot of new business and there were lines down the block for Sunday brunch that went on for a year.
CristianoRealnaldo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:41:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of my siblings works closely on a very popular reality show. Basically the people in the background are planted no matter where they go. From what I've been told they are very much the people they are on screen, the nice ones on the show are nice people and the divas are also like that in real life
TrollingPanda-_- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:33:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I imagine shows like chopped is probably real but some like the next food network star are fake. Its like keeping up with the kardashians, I mean sure these people are bat shit crazy, but this is clearly staged. One of the food network shows you could clearly tell what person was going to win because they lost a partner all game but somehow her team was untouched the rest of the show. It really depends on the show, most of the more popular ones are staged.
Sporkicide ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:39:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was around for filming of a couple of those investigation reality shows that promise to show the real detectives and forensic technicians at work. They were mostly based in truth but distorted reality for entertainment purposes.
The crews would come out to crime scenes with the investigators and film the initial response. They would collect a bunch of raw footage and then over the next few days call us up to film little bits to help turn the case into a drama for viewers. Dramatic bits like the first entrance into a crime scene were reshot. Detectives staged conversations to inform the audience of new details that emerged. Crime lab techs repeated tests with fake evidence so the camera could show the process. In some episodes, cases that were quickly solved in reality were presented with important information withheld until very near the episode in order to create dramatic tension.
The worst part was one of the shows got a little sloppy considering they were working with active investigations. They had gotten approval from one agency to follow along, but the other agencies involved in a typical response didn't find out about filming until they showed up to a crime scene and were met by a guy with a camera. The crew forgot to have everyone sign appearance waivers, so I know one investigator whose face ended up blurred out in some shots after complaining about it. I once answered a question for the production team and found myself credited as having a job title that a) was definitely not mine and b) does not exist. The biggest mishap came up after someone in the prosecutors' office realized that nobody had really discussed the fact that video taken at an investigation should probably be considered evidence, and the impact of a reality show about the crime and arrest airing before the suspect actually goes to trial. Messy stuff. Camera crews disappeared shortly thereafter.
Fabgrrl ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:55:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went to high school with a girl who was on Temptation Island. I don't know how much of the show was faked, but I did notice they gave her a fake occupation. She was really an aspiring actress. I guess they wanted her to seem like an average person.
ghotiaroma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:27:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A huge number of game show contestants are desperate actors. They rarely want them to say they are another dreamer who thinks this is the start of their career.
Eddie_Hitler ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:56:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine auditioned for The X Factor some years ago.
The "outside cheering" and "judges' cars pulling up" shots are totally staged and are done over and over again until the production team are happy with the result. They are apparently very rude and unpleasant people, not afraid to raise personal beef with anyone they don't think is putting the effort in. Needless to say there's nobody in those cars, because do you honestly expect Simon Cowell to go back and forth ten times until the onlookers give the perfect reaction?
He said only those who are really good, really bad, or really hot get get to meet the actual judges. All the regular normal people are filtered out early doors by a panel of young research assistants and someone who knows a little bit about performing arts.
According to him it was "commercialised beyond belief" and basically a massive waste of time. There have been allegations not from him I should add that the show is at least partly fixed.
ghotiaroma ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:24:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The contracts for all the talent shows specify the producers can change the outcome of the show and dismiss the voting. They specify that audience response can be replaced and selected for dramatic reasons and other things like that. All the talent shows are fixed.
missinglink00 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:06:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I worked as a camera operator for the diy network for years. Everything is fake.
I worked on kitchen impossible, money hunters, big better best.. Etc..
The renovation budgets are fake. The furniture gets returned. The family typically doesn't want any of the style in their kitchen. We made the choices for everything and they had to pretend to like it.
-star ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:12:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No one has mentioned Come Dine With Me? We auditioned for the couples show. Camera crew came to our house and filmed us talking for nearly two hours. They would pick up on things we said and ask us to elaborate, so much so that a few times I was thinking 'what the hell am I talking about?!'. Glad we didn't get through as the actual show would probably have made us look completely different to who we really are, personality wise. I would love to see our final edited audition that the crew sent to the directors though.
thisisallme ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:17:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was on Property Virgins. Yes, the first 2 places they showed me were surprises. The 3rd I had already closed on (they came back a month later after the first 2) and they asked me to pretend like I was seeing it for the first time. I got horribly drunk when they were waiting for my "offer to be accepted" and then I yelled at people on the sidewalk outside of the bar. Fun times.
its-ender ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:23:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not on but friends who were on told me @Midnight, totally scripted & fake.
Decyde ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:34:02 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Friend of mine online went to Judge Judy.
She said they shoot a bunch of episodes a day and they are encouraged to trigger Judge Judy.
My friends went on there because she had to move in with her mom when she was really sick. She was living with her now husband in an apartment where both their names were on the lease.
Since she left with like 6 months left on the lease, they decided to spin the story that she just moved out and wouldn't pay anything including back rent.
They sued for like $3,000 and since the show paid everything, they got a decent bit of money from doing it. They got air travel and hotel paid for and it was pretty much a trip for the 2 of them.
coffedrank ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:57:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hypnosis shows. I got picked randomly out of the audience with 4 - 5 other people. They filmed the dude trying to hypnotize us with our eyes closed and when the camera cut everyone called him out on his bullshit. The producers asked us if we could play along. Me and two others didnt want to but a few dudes stayed for shits and giggles.
ETroll ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:06:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was a contestant on "beauty and the geek" for the first (and only?) season in Norway. Nothing was really rigged. But if we said someting off camera or reacted to something off camera then we was required to repeat it as closely as possible on camera when the came crew arrived. (often just 5 min later) And When I was voted off I had to go trough the door around 5 times before they wrere happy with the sadfaces and stuff. (I am a emotionless person, but I had to try to fake tears before walking out)
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:04:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was it called Beauty and the Geek, or another name?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:20:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was a cam op on Cheaters in Dallas. Id say about 80% of the episodes were all fake with paid crappy actors. I even got one of my friends and his girlfriend to go on it, seeing as he was a struggling actor. The other 20% were legit though, got hairy and awkward often.
gatomercado ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:29:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
FYI, those TRUTH commercials are all fake. My uncle used to produce them in the late 90s and even came out as a store clerk in one.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:29:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:56:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I believe this. Real re-enactments are very well planned.
TheFirstThierthist ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:34:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Your country 's got talent..
The audience gets a speech before it's live, and is told to applaud and stand up when asked to. You know you're asked to when a guy in front of the stand is swinging around a rolled up piece of paper in the air like a mad man. They tell you 'If you don't stand up and applaud you're the only one which makes you look ridiculous on tv, so you better stand up and applaud'. They manipulate you hard.. They even give 'prices' (a mug and a $5 cap) to the individuals that applaud and stand up most enthousiastic.
bigalssupra ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:37:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend was on chopped. He said it basically went as it shows. He got chopped though so they don't know what's good.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:45:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This probably won't come shocking, but Jerry Springer. 3 friends of mine from high school signed up for it and got accepted to be on the show. It was one guy and two girls. They presented with a script to be in some love triangle scandal where my guy friend was cheating on his "gf" (which they weren't real BF/GF in real life). The girl he cheated on with his "gf", was actually one of their friends, as well. It was extremely funny watching them try to act when we all re-watched the episode later on when it aired.
Wiskoenig ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:46:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd be curious to hear from a former contestant on Top Shot. It seems like there wouldn't be much to fix on a show like that, you can either hit a bullseye or you can't.
The only thing I could see them fixing would be the order certain events or contests occurred to have a higher Jamie of a desired result (i.e. A pistol challenge when one contestant is a pistol expert and the other is a rifle expert.)
I can only think of one season where there was really any type of big character drama in the house between contestants, so it never seemed pushed.
mcdougishole ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:49:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was able to meet a drag queen that had been on RuPaul's Drag Race through a mutual friend. She told me that when they send someone home, the drag queen already knows ahead of time. The hotel they stay in puts a notice on their door in the morning saying "you'll be checking out today. Have all your stuff packed by _____".
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:18:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Willam Belli (/u/noextrai or /u/willambelli, here) has been vocal about knowing ahead of time. He mentioned it on the Afterbuzz podcast, along with sharing some behind the scenes stuff.
mcdougishole ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:34:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cool. I don't watch the show or take a huge interest in drag, so this isn't something I knew was somewhat public information.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:46:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not a problem. Besides, Willam Belli being so vocal is why RPDR tightened up their non-disclosure agreement. He'd previously gotten into a Facebook argument with one of the (still-employed!) production members, which ended when WB reminded the employee she'd also violated her NDR by using some of her arguments online, with him.
FWIW, Willam Belli has a book coming out in October, which should be pretty juicy, considering by then, he may be outside the parameters of his contract with World Of Wonder productions, which makes RPDR.
mcdougishole ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 08:26:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I just looked and saw that the queen I met was on the same season as Willam. Since she was comfortable sharing her story, maybe that means the NDR is already expired? Or maybe it was just casual conversation so she was letting her guard down.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:00:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can't speak for your friend, but it's possible the NDR statute of limitations is up. Season 4 was filmed over five years ago.
Willam Belli was actually a team player, but thanks to some dirty deals, he's spoken out about it more. "Dirty" refers to being asked not once, but twice, to be on later RPDR shows and then when he cleared his bookings to be there, was told they were going a different direction. He appeared in the second season of "Drag U", but was only used once. He was asked to be on All-Stars season one and then told to leave before production began.
Don't feel badly for Willam, though: He has his own empire of music, movies and appearances going on. The only RPDR queen making as much as him musically is Alaska, from Season 5.
KitchenCabinetIsOpen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:08:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Had a friend on Americas best dance crew. There's a narrative for certain crews that draw more viewers in to win.
If one of those crews messed up, they would reshoot until the stunts land correctly. Then film the judge's "reactions" to the performance.
MDRox99 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:08:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not sure if it really counts but during the 2013 Pokemon World Championships in Vancouver I met someone who somehow had some connections and I was with a group of people recorded for the Japanese show Pokemon Smash when it was still on.
They took maybe about 10 minutes to find a location by a boat but decided to move somewhere else because it was to loud. Basically they asked us questions about the new Pokemon that had been relieved like what type was Gogoat, and showed us a few pictures of the new Pokemon and asked what its name was. I was in the back and socially awkward so I just stood there while a few 6 year olds stole the show.
One correctly named Sylveon, but because it was a Japanese show they asked us to say the Japanese name, Nymphia. There was a translator that would translate the questions for us and someone with those large cards but I forget what they were for. They then told us that one of the characters on the show had a shtick where he would eat octopus or squid or something and we had to act grossed out about it. It wasn't hard.
It ended by one of the characters thanking us and wishing we will never stop playing Pokemon. All in all it's pretty real, there isn't much to really fake, but I thought I'd share. I don't believe it ever aired, they told us it would air in about 4 weeks but I never saw it. It might of aired sooner, or they just scrapped it because who wants to see a bunch of kids name Pokemon at an event 4 weeks ago when there's new footage of the new games?
SkylineDriver ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:23:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard that COPS, the original reality show, is the only unscripted reality show.
jdrc07 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:32:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every single person on that Operation Repo show is a paid extra, and every episode is based on a loosely written script.
The only cool thing about it was they paid us more than the usual rates and told us to improv conflict, we were allowed to curse all we wanted, and were allowed to "get physical" with the repo people. Physical as in shoving, but not straight up punching or anything like that. Basically we all started acting out the scene before the people showed up in their tow truck and we got one take to try to make the shit believable.
I got excited thinking I was gonna just shove whichever dude came out and then get my ass thrown onto the concrete on TV and have a funny gif I could make of myself for all my friends to laugh at, but when they rolled up it was a really overweight disgusting looking lady that came out and I had absolutely no interest in touching her, so I ended up just sitting in the back and cursing a lot.
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:35:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Waiting for the teen mom to come and say the baby isn't even hers and the producers make her cry over petty inconveniences.
abaddamn ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:52:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
After reading all these comments about how the show was scripted and felt embarrassed... Im glad I dont watch reality shows.
catrionaseawolf ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:55:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My dad was on Ice Cold Gold (2 seasons) on Animal Planet. John, the hothead. Tbh he's the sweetest person on the planet, wouldn't hurt a fly, and he was scripted to be the angry one. So take it with a grain of salt.
GeneralShepard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:55:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a cousin on Cash Cab, they hailed the cab like a regular taxi but then they were given the opportunity to go home, change, etc., then were told to go wait at the corner to be picked up.
andyb521740 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:58:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was a contractor on one of those Home and Garden home renovations shows where they turn out a project in 3 days. The work was very real and very grueling, I easily had 40 hours our work in within the 3 days of filming. The host of the show actually busted his ass more than anyone during the filming so he got respect from everyone involved.
The reality of it was no blue prints other than some rough drawings on paper, no permits, and no inspections. The pace of construction meant you were working on top of everyone, something or someone was always in your way, including a large number of people who just wandered thru the project to see it. The end results was a beautiful project on camera. However since no one was getting paid the second the cameras turned off our tools got put away and everyone left, leaving a ton of loose odds and ends for the property owner to deal with later. The properties owners got a fantastic looking project for free but I'm sure they are still fixing screw ups to this day. I'm glad I got to be a part of it but will never volunteer again nor would I ever let anything I own be a part of a reality show.
AngryEngineer912 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:58:37 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of my coworkers was on a certain Alaskan crab fishing show. After working with him for two years, we have talked about it quite a bit. I can assure you that the work, the danger and the goofing off is 100% real. There is no script. Editing makes for a more dramatic viewer experience though. There is a lot of traveling time, getting to the crabbing area, etc.
Diarygirl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:36:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I used to really like that show, but after that captain had the stroke (sorry, forgot his name) and they filmed him in the hospital, I never watched it again. Trying to tug at people's heartstrings using a man that can't even consent is a horrible thing to do for ratings. I don't even understand why the boys went along with it.
louisprimaasamonkey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:24:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on Comic Book Men. I was told the negotiation process was real and it was. I had some funny interactions with Ming that were authentic, as were a few of the bearded guy's jokes. Aside from that, everything else was staged.
They had me do a few retakes of presenting the item I was selling as well as a few retakes on the handshake once we made the deal. Other than that, pretty real.
AltiarGaming ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:20:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you a fan of Smith or TESD?
louisprimaasamonkey ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:03:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tell em' Steve Dave! I was a weekly visitor to the comic shop before it became overpopulated with annoying people.
I was a big fan of his early stuff. Clerks, Mallrats, and Chasing Amy are my shit. Not a fan of his more recent work. Not my cup of tea. I've heard the podcast was good but I've yet to get into it.
CrypticC62 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:26:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mostly related: I was approached by a producer of King of the Nerds to audition for Season 2. I put together an audition tape and all of the other materials they asked for. Then someone else emailed to remind me that my application (which I was never told about) was due two days ago. I sent it in, and never heard back from them.
A year later, I was approached by a third person to audition for Season 3. I put together a new audition tape, then was sporadically asked or "reminded" to do other things by other people I hadn't talked to. On one occasion, I took a screenshot of my Sent email folder to show them that I had, in fact, sent the thing they had asked for.
A year later, approached again, this time for a different show. I just ignored it.
TL;DR: In the audition process, overpaid disorganized people lead you to believe that you are special, give unclear instructions, and then abandon all contact as soon as you don't make the cut.
Taylorswiftscouch ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:29:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I get why they are doing it, but could you please always say what reality show it is that you are talking about. The vague answers don't help.
whalemango ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:40:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anybody have any input on Survivor? That one always seemed more or less legit to me, though probably edited very "creatively"
CynicalWaffles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:06:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of, if not the most, real and not rigged shows on TV. You can read all the contestant AMA's or just look at the before and after pictures of people getting insanely hurt or insanely thin.
NoviceApproach ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:21:46 on July 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Mike in the fire
CJFizzle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:41:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on a reality show in Norway where the premise was that they take Americans of Norwegian ancestry to Norway and undergo cultural challenges (eating lutefisk, performing black metal, cross-country skiing, etc.)
It was all pretty on the level honestly. Occasionally the director will ask you to say something again (or just make people comment on stuff at all) or they'll have you recreate something the cameras didn't get.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:13:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's the name of the show? Sounds interesting!
CJFizzle ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:29:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Alt For Norge
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:14:11 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Thanks!
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:07:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Goofy1994 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:56:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Had a guy I knew in middle school show up on 16 and Pregnant. Totally a nice and charismatic dude but wasn't surprised he knocked someone up that young. MTV made him look like the absolute worst mainly because they focus on the baby momma in those instances. Since then I've felt bad for the dads on that show. *edit: show title
KitKatMasterJapan ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 02:37:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
which girl was he involved with?
wile-ecoyote ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:12:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Deadliest Catch is realish but not really. The catch quotas are set At the beginning of the season so there is no competition there. They never fish in the storms or weather they depict. Anything over 25-30 knot winds is rare to see crews pulling gear. Crew argue but it's more like little girls behind each other's back and not yelling at each other. One thing that is true is that fishermen do love to drink.
badskeleton ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:16:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This will get buried, but I was on SlimeTime Live. The voting is real. The pies are just whipped cream. The slime is delicious.
ScrewThis1029 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:24:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am so jealous! Was the slime sour, or sweet? Ive always wanted to know
badskeleton ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sweet! It tasted kind of like applesauce. I'd eat it again tbh.
__--___---____---- ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:21:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Deadliest Catch is fairly real. The stuff that happens, happens, but is extremely exaggerated. A PART HAS BROKEN ON THE BOAT ITS GOING TO SINK, no it's just a normal issue. everything is usually OK. I did see one poor kid climbing up and down a mast for an hour to "get the perfect shot".
Big Tuna is the same way. No body really uses the harpoon, just started doing it for show. Tuna hitting the line is just a cinderblock sinking with drag adjusted.
I did work with a captain that did an Alaska boat welding show maybe 8 years ago with Discovery that said it was fake as fuck.
SpikeNLB ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:29:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Reminds me of the AMA.ish post of someone that appeared on Judge Judy and her mentioning that prior to the taping the segment producer encouraged/pushed her to interrupt JJ, speak over the defendant, basically just act stupid. She didn't. Yep the whole thing is set up for JJ to go on her rants and and facial expressions in ref. to just how stupid are these people in my court room.
Atm47 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:38:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone know anything about impractical jokers? I always wondered how real or fake it is
TrilobiteTerror ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:54:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't think there's that much to fake.
shepppard ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:38:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm a camera operator who occasionally works on reality TV. It's fake. It might be based around some sort of stuff that would happen but everything is covered for the edit which means a lot of staging. You are given a breakdown of the show before you start filming and you know everything that you need to cover including the points of tension and where things are going to go wrong. It's all fake people. Probably very limited shows are real but there is always an element of bullshit or two because the broadcasters are investing money in these shows and they need guarantee success which means knowing the story before anything even gets filmed.
Gotsmeez ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:47:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was on a pretty popular dating show. They wouldn't let me speak to the girl off camera. Also, they gave me subject matter to speak about and heavily pressured me to kiss the girl. Everything was fake about it.
GoredonTheDestroyer ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:43:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Blind Date? Didn't they cancel that like fifteen years ago?
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:50:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My mom has appeared on HGTV's "Beachfront Bargain Hunt" as a realtor 3 times (actually, one of her episodes premiered just the other night; and my dad's first episode premiers in September!). It's completely fake. The producer calls her up and asks her to find a client who fits their specifications -- somebody who bought a house from her recently. They like gay couples a lot, or people with young/cute kids. Then they go and look at some random homes (oftentimes homes that weren't even on the market at the time that they bought) and pretend to buy the house that they already bought like a year ago.
But it is real in the fact that the people DID buy that house from my mom as portrayed. So there's that :D
puppypaws98 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:14:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know all these realty shows are fake. I like watching them anyway for the scenery. House Hunters International especially.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:32:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The scenery is beautiful! They bring a drone to film the island from the sky -- gorgeous shots.
indiecindy ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:54:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My aunt and uncle live in a really incredible home in Chile. They got contacted to film an episode of "House Hunters International" after they'd lived in the house for about 3 years.
jaya9581 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:56:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was an "extra" on Hell's Kitchen, which basically means I was a restaurant customer. It's not a real restaurant, no one pays for food, they provide free soda & wine and also offer free taxis to/from your home in case you drink too much and need to return the next day to pick up your car.
The only things that surprised me were the way the "manipulate" time. We were there for lunch, with "dinner service" starting at noon - but inside the restaurant all the clocks were set to 6 PM and it was "dinner." The service is made to look incredibly short on TV, but to feed the entire restaurant took them 3+ hours. Everything that went on inside the kitchen did appear to be real, including Ramsey yelling at people. He would leave the kitchen for long periods of time, however, while the contestants were cooking.
KitKatMasterJapan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How was the food?
jaya9581 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:59:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They already had enough dining room extras by the time we were called. We were seated up in the balcony and were served mediocre catered pasta. The benefit was that we got to watch everything without worrying about acting for the cameras, and we got to stay and watch as long as we wanted. It was really fascinating to watch them cook.
andwhatt ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:04:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For the Brits - I was sad when i found out how much of what Bear Grylls does is faked :(
jjm239 ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:01:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Watch Survivorman
GoredonTheDestroyer ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 03:40:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If the world goes to shit, there are four people I'd want on my survival team: Ozzy Man Reviews (to narrate shit), Jerry Miculek (fastest trigger finger in the world, also really great shot), Tom Hardy (Because he's Tom Hardy) and Les Stroud.
John32070 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:18:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm not far from an Extreme Makeover house that was built for a military family after the original was taken out by a tornado. First thing I noticed when I actually saw it close up it isn't as big as it looks on tv (like they use certain camera angles to make it look like a small mansion). Biggest complaints I heard were how rude the ABC people actually were to the townsfolk (town is probably close to 2000), and as might have been heard before about this show, they build so fast they end up cutting corners at every opportunity (poor concrete work and the like). Guy I know who lives a block or so away from the house told me that for about 3 months after they moved in they were having to have stuff redone that wasn't done right to begin with. I also heard Ty Pennington is a total dick once the cameras are off of him.
ScrewThis1029 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:28:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can confirm this. They were in my city doing a wrap party at my old place of work and those people were AWFUL to deal with.
SteveO3755 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:27:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if anyone here watched Warped Roadies, but I had a professor who's part of a decently well known band that plays Warped Tour often. He said there was one day they were told to do something that seemed to be in all good fun with another band. When it aired the editors convoluted it so much it made the second band look like dicks. He said he would never participate in that show again.
ultrab0ii ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:31:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Any kpop fans?? Not sure if this counts but a few years ago I went to KCON and was waiting on line, very close to the front, to see the red carpet. Mnet(Korean show network??) was filming something about kcon and they were recording the line I was waiting in. They stuck 3 young teenaged blonde white girls in the front of the line to record them cheering lol. And they all had like mnet temporary tattoos on their face lol. And then they recorded the line but they made us cheer but had to do like 2 takes. In reality we were all dying from the LA sun tho:(
EightNation ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:33:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looking for a redditor that was on inkmaster.
Bodieh ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:42:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone I know did try-outs to appear on the Australian version of Gladiators. She did really well but they ended up choosing people who were quite bad so that it wouldn't make the gladiators look weak.
InTupacWeTrust ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 03:55:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I love American Gladiators
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John32070 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:45:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You must be in Chapman, I wrote about this earlier. I will say that I would be annoyed if strangers came by asking to see inside the house.
OMGpopcorn1 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:27:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
IIRC one of the hoarders/my strange addiction type shows is all real. Forgetting which one (or if it's more than one).
girthytaquito ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:27:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Second hand account here....
Friend of a friend was on a taping for "Are you smarter than a fifth grader" and as an adult was much much smarter.
They just never aired his taping
Aeleas ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 15:15:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did they at least pay out the winnings?
NoviceApproach ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:27:58 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Important question
FBIDIRECTOR ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:33:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A guy I know was the owner of a bar on bar rescue. Don't know him too well but he said it was basically staged to make him look like an out of control drunk to make it interesting. Plus sounded pretty shitty to wear the same clothes every day of shooting to make it look like it was from a single day. I assume most of the "drama" on bar rescue is staged. IIRC a lot of the bars on that show get bought out once they air.
MilwaukeeMechanic ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:35:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on Judge Alex. I sued my skank of an ex for unpaid bills and personal loans. The show is actually pretty real. They have researchers that pore through pending small claims court cases - I actually sued in real court prior to being contacted by the show. Basically you tell your stories to the producers your stories and if they like your case they put you on TV.
Essentially, you tell your story and the Judge acts as an arbitrator. In the case of money, the show pays the judgement. You have to go through a shit ton of legal stuff - they have actual lawyers that file the paperwork necessary to dismiss your pending lawsuit and they draft arbitration agreements along with copyright stuff.
As for the filming, the entire court audience is made up of paid actors, obviously. But what you see on the show is more or less what happens. You tell your story, the judge asks some questions and so on. There are monitors in the podiums where the producers will send you messages to remind you to bring up certain points of interest - or to argue a little bit - but it's not a script, more like a prompt or reminder.
In my opinion, considering that most small claims cases never result in any actual dollars changing hands, the fact that the show pays the judgement is a worthwhile way to get some settlement dollars. Although you then have to claim it as income - but still better than nothing.
jpropaganda ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:24:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Did an auction show. It's all completely fake, including the storage units and what's inside
WhatChips ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:36:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a friend who edited a diy renovation show where it looked like a couple top to bottom renovated their entire house by themselves. He hated it as each week he got 60 hours of footage and he had to edit out any shot with the mass of builders in the back ground. He had to keep requesting production to stop making building noise and get builders out of shot so that he could string together 40 minutes of footage a week. Looked like the couple completely rebuilt their own home in 8 weeks. In reality there were 25 builders, labourers and sub contractors onsite. Was made to look like you could do it yourself with this hardware store yourself in only a few weeks.
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NoviceApproach ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:25 on July 7, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I filmed an episode of it, but it didn't air because I refused to look like a fool. I wasn't the monster, it was actually my bridesmaid. I kicked her out of my life, because the wedding is a celebration of promises to each other, not a chance for a stuck up bitch to become popular. We didn't get paid because it didn't air. My payment was my beautiful wedding, designed exactly how we wanted it and where we wanted it. They kept trying to script everything
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[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 08:34:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Story checks out.
In all seriousness, it is pretty hard to watch that show.
isnessisbusiness ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:03:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine was on The Amazing Race one year and told me that they have so much footage of you they can literally make anyone into whatever character they want. He said the "bitch" that season was actually the nicest person on the show and they were still really good friends after it ended. The fact that they can manipulate your personality by only showing certain sides of it consistently is the biggest lie about reality TV imo.
Medical__Student ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:04:11 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I made it through a few rounds of American idol a few years back....it was an experience for sure.
Lots of things were rigged. When you see a full stadium and then you see the contestants singing in front of the 3 the judges....it's about a 4 month gap.
First round of auditions is in a stadium, you sing with 3 other people next to you and you get like 20 seconds.
If they like what they see, excuse me I mean "hear" then they give you a golden ticket to the next round.
The next round you go "behind the scenes" and sign more paper work. You sing in front of more "producers" and if you make it through that....they ask you to come back in a couple months to sing again.
When you go back after a few months is when you are able to sing in front of the 3 main judges and possibly (key word) on tv. But even before singing in front of the 3 main judges, you go through more rounds of singing.
They bring you in and explain that you'll be on camera and there's literally like 20 some people around. Rumor had is that the reason they bring you in front of cameras (besides seeing the 3 main judges) is too see how well you look on tv.
The reason the fuck ups get on there is simply because of ratings....duh. These people quit they're jobs, buy plane tickets, spend so much money through it all....all because American idol lies to them about how they did. The crazy people freak out because it's been like a 5 month elimination process just to sing in front of the main judges....and even then clearly it's not a guarantee.
Also the 3 judges do make the choices but Simon fuller I know has the final say. I've heard, through people I got to know, that some contestants were passed by the 3 judges but Simon fuller liked them so he gave them the coveted "golden ticket"
emilycolbs ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:46:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I worked on Britain's Got Talent, they keep the audience for so long. They let some people rehearse on the stage before the audience are let in. They do things like turn people's microphones off/turn their instruments off to make them look stupid. The 'judges' say things out of context when talking to the contestant so they can edit it to make them look even more stupid. One guy who was on, the audience booed him and chanted 'off off off' but when they showed it on tv the audience were cheering and screaming, because they film the audience reacting differently before they see anyone (e.g. Okay now I want you all to stand up and cheer, okay now boo as loud as you can)
bowdo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:48:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My cousin was on the bachelor. It was frequent to keep them sleep deprived to get them to do crazy shit. She was cast as the 'crazy' one, so they would do things like tell her 'quick, look out the window' so they could get footage of her leaning out the window and noone would be there. Made her do an awkward 1 on 1 singing routine. The bachelor himself was fucking hopeless, he had all his 'romantic' lines fed through an earpiece. So yeah, fake as shit.
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:28:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yep. Brooke Hogan is her name. She's Hulk Hogan's daughter. Another aspect of the show was that on these dates, Hulk would lo-jack her car (or lend her his, which he would track with GPS) and sometimes follow her on her dates.
Christianb97 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 09:26:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL every reality show is scripted except SYTTD.
LoganMcOwen ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 10:22:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In this thread: 5000+ game show contestants
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 12:56:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Having spent the better portion of my adult life working in the television broadcasting industry- I can tell you that it's safe to assume that EVERY single thing you watch on that box is fake or staged. Go outside and do something.
wimaine ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:09:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: People who have no idea how to comment on comments.
DeuceSevin ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:13:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
An acquaintance of mine was on that MTV show where live together for a month or something? I never watched the show so I can't say about what went on behind the scenes. But I talked to him a lot so I know what goes on in their real life after the show: 1. They get paid very little for the show itself. However for months afterwards his "job" was personal appearances at clubs and the like. He'd get anywhere from $500-$2000 for an "appearance" where basically he just hung out for a few hours. 2. At these appearances he wore the clothes, shoes, watches, etc of his sponsors, getting additional money. 3. The further out you are from your show the fewer appearances you are offered. So you then start to look for another gig on another show. Or some other way to get your name in the news, like getting arrested (think Jersey Sjore, Real Housewives). So when you read about one of these minor celebrities getting in some trouble with the law, it was likely calculated. 3. Girls. Girls. More girls. At every appearance he'd get multiple propositions. (Didn't hurt that he was a young, good looking guy). His phone was buzzing almost constantly with girls sending pictures, ranging from suggestive to downright porn. He had to look then delete most of them if he didn't know them because he had no way of telling how old they were, and at least some of them appeared to be slightly underage. 4. He got on one of the "reunion" shows, which extended the debouchery he called a job for about another year. I think he has since gone back to his old job, his 15 minutes now over
Marimboo ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:30:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Will probably be buried, but I was in one of those Nickelodeon commercial shows many years ago. Just about everything was real. People from the audience aren't chosen completely at random; you're asked first off camera. Other than that, yeah, it's all real.
rucumucu ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 17:56:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone have any info on that train wreck of a show called "Utopia"?
katiedid05 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 02:08:35 on July 11, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Congratulations! A shitty website has stolen your thread for an "article"
rutefoot ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:39:58 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There appears to be an awful lot of people in here repeating things they've heard online then saying their friend or cousin was on the show.
I get it, Pawn Stars, house hunters and storage wars are ridiculously staged. But there's more people in this thread claiming to know someone who was on one of these shows than the number of people actually appearing on these shows.
NoviceApproach ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:03:54 on July 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Maybe some of the people on here know the same people
FerrisTM ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 22:42:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My god brother was on The Monster's Inside Me (not sure if this counts, but whatever.) Turns out, that show is doctored up AS FUCK. They came to interview my brother and his family members, but ended up taking an acute interest in the divorce of his parents more than they did his incredible survival story. When the episode aired, they ended up skipping some of the most fascinating parts of his experience and focusing much more on how his illness brought his parents back together...which it didn't. Both of his parents did show up in the hospital, of course, but it was along with each of their new significant others. I have no idea why the writers of the show thought that his parents' divorce was more interesting than the actual story. Fucking weird.
TheRealPartshark ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:16:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I hate these threads. You ask for people who are on the show. Almost every response:
My friend My uncle My neighbor A guy I know My girlfriend/boyfriend My wife/husband My sister My boss A friend of a friend of a neighbor
Bottom Line: There are 3 types of shows. Fake, Reenacted, Manipulative
Fake shows are like the Osbornes. Completely scripted from beginning to end.
Reenactment shows are real stories that are acted out.
Manipulative shows are real but the producers manipulate the footage to their desires.
SweetLenore ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 23:20:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Can't the mods start doing something about this? It takes over the thread and you can't even see the appropriate answers from the appropriate people that were asked in the first place.
TheRealPartshark ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:28:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You'd think.
dawkin5 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:01:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Perhaps they could edit the thread a little. You know, just to help the narrative along.
KingKazOfThe6 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:29:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if this counts as a reality show, but I was on an episode of the Canadian version of Shark Tank (link below). The people behind the scenes helped us develop our pitch and gave us a few lines to say to the camera. But overall it was very real and they never told us to do anything that I would consider rigged. When it aired, it was obviously edited to be slightly more dramatic (parts of the convo cut out, or pauses added when there were none) but overall i think it did a good job of capturing the events as they happened. Here a link to the episode I was on, it's the first bit relating to Wedding Wall: http://www.cbc.ca/dragonsden/nextgenden/season1/next-gen-den-9
NermalKitty ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 20:51:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I know a few people who have been on various shows. Some are legit. Some aren't. My cousin and her husband were on "Could You Survive?" I believe it only ran one season and was on Discovery. The couples are pull in mocked situations of life or death to see if they would have lived(the all fail in the beginning" and then go through 6-8 weeks of boot camp style training with prior DI's from the Marines, then go again. They actually didn't pass their second chance to survive but did significantly better. That one was all real.
A friend of mine and his girlfriend were on a game show that just aired last week or the week before called Idiottest or something. They won, and it wasn't scripted either. That same friend was also used as a potent ion date for MTVs old show "Parental Control". He just filmed a little video about himself as a potential date, wasn't actually on the show. That one is scripted.
An old coworker was on Gladiator. He actually did a few different game shows, but said Gladiator was scripted. They had one of the obstacle courses that his family kept winning but they wanted the other family to win, so they kept shooting til the other family won. Sucked for him bc the show prizes are better than just an appearance. I think he said he was on Wheel of Fortune too.
And I used to seat fill for MTV Rock n Jock. Those are real, although they do a ton of takes when they are doing the announcer stuff. We did one of the bowling ones behind Universal Studios one year in the summer and it was so freaking hot they couldn't get enough water to us seat fillers and people were leaving early or going to the hospital from heat stroke. We went from a couple hundred seat fillers to only about 60 of us. They cooled us all down and said if we all stayed we would have guaranteed seats to the Teen Choice awards(which was huge in the early 2000's lol). We all had to crowd around the announcers to look like a larger group and they only did close ups. I was pretty burned at the end of it.
Edit: I also forgot that my work was featured in 2 episodes of Pit Boss. My Chief(Lieutenant at the time) did the ride alongs for Shorty, which he wasn't happy about bc he just likes to be low key and not in a spotlight. But Shorty really did take older pits from us at both tapings. Although we did go through our available list and give him the potential dogs he could choose from first that were available. And then he met them and picked the ones that needed out desperately the most. And he stayed and chatted with us and took photos. He's a good guy. The first episode is episode 1 of season 1. The second was is the second season ur I can't remember which episode number. The show was real. The only parts that I guess could have been scripted was that we went through our open calls and he hand picked a few to go to that way have the best results for the shows. Anyone appearing on camera has to sign a release form before they could air the footage.
hoppierthanthou ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:01:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was downtown during the gay pride parade last week when a new "real housewives" show was filming. There was a storm coming, so my friends and I ducked into the nearest pavilion selling beer to avoid the rain. They had a quarter of the place roped off for the "real housewives". I found it incredibly ironic they were even there since this is an extremely conservative state and anyone with money here gives 0 shits about the gay community. Afterwards they went inside, and there were paid actors/dancers to make it look like the bar was packed even though they had rented it out to film.
KitKatMasterJapan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which city was this?
hoppierthanthou ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:46:44 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oklahoma City
KitKatMasterJapan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:00:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
hmmm.. I know one of the RHOC's daughter lived there... and there is RHODallas.. wonder which.
huntgrav ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:28:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I work on reality shows. They're all 100% rigged
LeglessMonkey ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 05:48:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on Junkyard Wars towards the end of the series and what you saw was pretty accurate. They did ask what would be need to do the challenge and made sure that it was somewhere in the junkyard. It took 3 hrs to find the engine.
I was also on Oddities SF a couple of years back, that show bears NO resemblance to what you see , they completely reedited it to where it had no resemblance to what happened. They gave us the item they wanted us to bring in, and then even changed that before it aired. They had me bring this funky un registrable steam car I had built and wanted me to drive around the Haight Ashbury, when I got there they had made no provisions for the legality of this and did not even want to pay for parking it during the shoot. When it turned out there was no coffee I flipped and grabbed the producer by the shirt (really) and made him declare a verbal contract regarding what would happen if the car got impounded while a friend of mine filmed, and made him give me money for coffee and told him to "feed the f==g parking meter.
zekezero ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 13:51:14 on July 10, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always really liked junkyard wars. Glad to hear it was real. And as most of the builds failed, I guess that's why.
MONDARIZ ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:58:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always had a feeling it would be unwise to mess with guys in steam cars :-)
cptbackfire01 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:10:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend was fat. So fat, she got on Xtreme Makeover Weight Loss Edition. She lost the weight. BUT, the reveal party was so friggin fake. They filmed everything about 60 times. Most people had already seen her before, so there was no real OMG moment for all of us. Then she sustained an ankle injury a few months later and got morbidly obese again.
emmapolar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:01:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes I was wondering about this! What about Keeping up with the Kardashians? I feel like everything in that show is staged....
isisishtar ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:12:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And of course, just offscreen from the intimate moments with the reality show stars, are dozens of people with clipboards, miles of thick electrical cable, lights, folding chairs, craft service tables and makeup vanities. Just like at your house!
BasketeerOverHere ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:38:49 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
While I love Married At First Sight, I've read that the first season was mostly pretty above-board, but the second and third seasons were rushed to fit the deadline, and they picked the women honestly, but when it came to the men they were running out of time so just picked pretty much random guys whose intentions were different than advertised, or in some cases were already in relationships.
accidentlycelibate ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:03:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is too bad they allow shows like South Beach Tow, Storage Wars and shows that follow people's "real" lives to be called Reality TV. There are some great reality tv competition shows that get such a bad rep because of these Amish Mafia type shows.
DaymanX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:08:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I auditioned for a few reality shows in the early 00's, and made it on one.
It might have been different back then, but the main thing the casting people wanted to know was how much it would mean to me, how excited I would be, and how expressive I was.
When it came time to shooting one, they shot a ton of footage, but again, what they wanted was excited and "moments" like you would see on FANatic, Pimp My Ride, etc.
I also shot some man on the street things for a music show about albums and bands, and they presented it like they were asking people's opinions, but we had to pick from a list of bands and songs to talk about. They let us add our own comments about them, but it was clear that you had to work within their parameters.
Nothing was scripted, but it was clear that producers knew the kind of story they wanted to shoot and present.
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chrono13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:30:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Been on a reality show. They started by telling us the retractions we should have, what we should say and filmed those, then went to the "reality" part. They cut in whatever reaction they want for each shot in post, so I wouldn't say the reactions are real - they cut our reactions out and cut in the first ones that were staged.
Antichrono13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:11:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't believe you. Clearly you have never been on a reality show.
Khakikadet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I once met a man who actually buys storage lockers that people stop paying for. He does it just for fun, and usually looses money given he ends up paying to take 7 mattresses to the dump. The TV show is entirely rigged.
finnw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:12:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How often does he find stolen/contraband goods?
Khakikadet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:48:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Honestly he says he just finds mattresses, Christmas decorations, and junk. Nothing exciting. On the occasion there is something nice, like a dining table, he just drives it strait to the auction house.
Stardustchaser ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:31:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My claim to fame was auditions for American Idol. Went to Qualcomm stadium a couple of days before the "tryout" to get my number in line. Was part of a group of screaming contestants in an opening TV shot during the San Diego tryouts. A couple hundred of us were put in a section of the stadium parking lot where there was a camera crane and proceeded to scream (on a vocal tryout day) several times while the camera panned up until they got the shot they wanted.
Then it was to Qualcomm where the Chargers and CSUSD play. About 15 thousand of us sitting around all day. On the field were about 15 or so pop up awnings under which were various TV and music industry people. People would be sent down in number order to the field in groups of four to audition for about 30 seconds to the people under the various awnings. The rest of us waited for hours....if I had a dollar for every Whitney Houston-style trilling or earnest rendition of "Hey There Delilah" I heard that summer I'd own an island.
Watched as a majority were sent home through an open section of the field that led back to the parking lot (that had several dozen shoes hanging from the ceiling pipes so that was interesting). A handful in outrageous costumes, overly fat/frumpy, and a small portion of "normal looking" types, maybe four or five dozen total, were sent to another section to sign some forms and were sent to a hall at field level. I never made it to Simon, Paula and Randy- only those few dozen of thousands (including the intentionally awful ones) would do it. Qualcomm doesn't have convention-looking rooms in large amounts because they are a freaking football stadium. Those contestants who signed the forms actually went to a second site in SD county, a decent hotel about 45 minutes away and about a month later for that crowd. The edit of course makes one think everything happened over the course of two days.
flick92 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:41:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A happy medium show. My school film class was on Americas funniest videos, at least we were in the audience. The voting that they air isn't people actually voting and the people in the audience get moved around a lot to have the more "attractive" people in the shots. More to that point, there is a separate area that isn't on the stage for those deemed to not have the right look for television where they can still see the show but not be accidentally put in a shot.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:22:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They have a face for radio.
WOWsirs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:44:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not me... But my cousin was going to be in a singing competition called "Academia Fama" in Mexico. He sings really good so he was extremely confident..... He got an audition and everything and got a spot in it. When they went to prep for it he found out he had gotten a spot cause he's really outgoing and confident so the producers wanted him to be extremely cocky and a douche to everyone.
They wanted him to be the drama queen of the show. The guy who everyone hates and causes a lot of problems. My cousin quit before the show even started.
DobbysSock13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:55:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on the pilot of a failed reality show. The pilot aired, but no other episodes. It took place at speed dating at a convention. There was actually very little faked/altered and the one thing they tried to stage just came off super weird and staged (duh. Cause it was) so they didn't use that footage. The little things that they faked weren't a big deal and I understood why they did them. They were billing me as the Harry Potter fan on the show so when I was planning on wearing a Doctor Who shirt to the Con they asked me if I could wear a Potter one instead. And then later I was talking about what book I was currently reading (Catching Fire) and they edited it so I said I was re-reading Order of the Phoenix. Kind of annoyed me that I wasn't allowed to show my other fandoms, but all the dating stuff was completely un-staged which was really the important thing.
Though I have seen comments online from other people who were on the show that say some of their sections were staged so I can't speak to the show as a whole - just my experience.
TannerThanUsual ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:24:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Almost all of my friends ended up being on an MTV Reality show called If You Really Knew Me. Our school, Freedom High, was the pilot episode. All of the kids were different "cliques" and the show was about breaking boundaries in high school.
Spoilers: Most of the kids from "different cliques" are actually all in the same friend group. They all also had perfectly fine home lives. The show was a mess and I'm glad it only had one season.
zombieregime ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:25:26 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not TV, but a documentary on a particular popular culture convention. The drama between the other two in our group was very real. we even had to wave off the camera from following them while they yelled at each other. Most of the drama didnt even make it into the final cut due to time constraints.
The moral of the story is some reality drama is fake, some is very, very real.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:33:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Low_town_tall_order ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:36:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also another buddy of mine was on judge judy for a fight at a party i was at. He threw a brick through this assholes car window an guy sued him, anyway he lost the case but judge judy paid the fine
Zoppello ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:34:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know the standard changes a lot from country to country, but my mom got invited to a talk show to talk about traveling, give tips and asnwer some questions from the public.
Turns out the people in the audience who asked for tips are not only payed to be there, but most of them do that as a job. They were telling her about their last appearances in reality shows, TV pranks and such. They even estimate the time since they did something relevant so they wont be recognized.
Lnzy1 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:50:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of my friends was part of a reality TV show and she said that about 25% of the show was fake (like set up gags and shit) but so much of their dialogue came off fake because the camera would record and they would say something or two people would have a conversation naturally, but the producers wanted them to redo it because they didn't like the shot, the sound wasn't good, or they wanted a word changed.
ahintofnapalm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:12:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There was an episode of one of those Ghostbuster shows set in Alcatraz. According to one of the guards who worked there when the filmed, the show brought in their own actors who replaced the original guards for the show.
dankmoms ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:13:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of a friend was on 'Love It or List It'. The hosts only came there once but changed outfits to look like different days. They filmed a "Love It" ending and a "List It" ending even though they had already started the contract process to list it.
ithinkoutloudtoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
That Flipping Vegas show where I saw on TV the same shot used twice in the same episode. The camera panned across a room leading into a hallway while the guy and his wife are walking away. Same shot, same pan, same everything. But we couldn't see their faces or mouths when both times, they say something different. They most-likely recorded two different sound bites in a recording booth and made magic with the editing.
37214 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:42:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Loved how that show went $25k over budget, so they just increased the list price by $30k
IndyT ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:19:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it more fake than that lady's nose?
ithinkoutloudtoo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:14 on July 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think that show is fake and super staged. All of the home repair shows are fake to me.
Iamthedemoncat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:19:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A friend and his family were on love it or lost, there were many scripted parts and had the option other than what they choose aired.
Fumbler88 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:27:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I auditioned for Canadian Idol many years ago and as a result, went to a taping of the show. We prerecorded cheering for each finalist before they were even brought up from the green room. The producer stood on stage and asked us to pretend she was each performer and if you were sitting near their family, you were automatically cheering for that person.
GrimaceIVXX ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:40:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Jail and Cops though.. Not to much can be done to alter those shows.
ghotiaroma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:39:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cops is highly edited. Perps are coerced into signing releases being promised leniency which of course they never get.
Editing can completely change the narrative of an otherwise true situation.
jonfaw ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:41:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I worked on an audition based talent show. The eye opener for me was the producer on headset feeding leading questions to the judges to get the contestant to open up about her husband telling her she should give up her dreams of being a singer, leading up to him giving her an ultimatum of him or the audition, with her choosing to leave her husband to go for the show. She was terrible. When they passed her over, the producer kept repeating "Cry, come on, cry" to the crew while calling for ever tighter closeups. She left the stage in disgrace while a team of cameras and and interviewer descended on her back stage to watch her while prodding her to admit her mistake and declare she would go back to the man.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:46:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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ghotiaroma ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 21:35:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm noticing a lot of comments in this thread and others from people who've been on shows starting with, it's mostly real, and then writing paragraphs of things they faked.
There is definitely a personality "type" that wants to be on these shows.
rental_aquarium ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:55:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was in the audience of a faux America's Got Talent. An hour or longer before the show actually began, the producers came out and got multiple takes of the audience cheering, really cheering, and seeing the best thing they've ever seen. I think we also had to boo.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:59:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Has anyone worked on Love and Hip Hop? Any of them? I keep telling my friends everything on that show is fake(even the places they eat at) but they don't believe me. One episode, a girl threw a fake glade imitation candle and you could tell it was fake! They wanted people to believe that it was lit. Maybe if I could get someone on here to tell me what all is fake I can show them proof.
Fia5ko ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:06:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know someone who was on that Shipping Wars show for a while. They had them ask someone they knew if they could do a fake delivery pick up from their business. The deliveries are supposed to be stuff that they all bid on to get, so if this is how the whole thing works, I'm not sure any of the deliveries are real.
jaroberts24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:08:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Worked on a season of Teen Moms ... Real stuff.
imjohnk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't know if you're serious but this reality show actually seems kinda real because sometimes the producers get involved because of something happening. If it was staged producers won't get involved in drama, as well as the children addressing the camera sometimes.
jaroberts24 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:26:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am serious. The only thing we staged on occasion would be to recreate a phone call if we didn't catch it on camera. It had happened in real life but we didn't film it.
imjohnk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:28:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah that's probably the power that it still airs after all these seasons and 16 And Pregnant isn't. The only reason why Farrah is on the show is for the reason that she's entertaining though because she's awful.
andwhatt ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So 16 and pregnant is faked?
imjohnk ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:23:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It definitely seemed like it.
nizzynut ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:11:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
CBC had a show in Canada called "The big decision " where one of the investors from "Dragons den" would visit a company and decide to help with money or advice, etc. My company was chosen for an episode even though we were a depth free company that only needed better marketing, not money. The first red flag should have been when the producers asked us to ask for money. We ended up looking like total amateurs thanks to the editing and actually lost a few customers.
Honey-Badger ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:17:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My point is working at the BBC is very different to other channels. They are super strict on what you can and can't make out
lazerhorse ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:18:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine has been on both Canada's Got Talent and Storage Wars Canada.
In CGT there are rounds that aren't televised, including the first audition. Many more people make it through each round, and are then weeded out by the producers afterwards. Makes sense.
Storage Wars Canada is hilarious. It's a combination of rigged/scripted plots and totally improvised "acting", but while it seemed like the main characters of the show were really actors, there also seemed to be legitimate competition between them. Hard to say what was and wasn't real. Everyone was really nice.
ghotiaroma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:19:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
America's Got Talent is completely rigged. They even create routines, props, and costumes for the performers. They "hire" acts, they make up back stories and encourage the performers to make stuff up too.
If it's called a reality show it's because it's fake.
flarn2006 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:22:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Source?
thewiremother ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Good friend is a shooter/producer for a number of famous reality shows. It's pretty much all bullshit.
UnpluggedZombie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:25:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I worked behind the scenes in reality for many years.
You have to remember that "reality" is a style of television, most of the stories, situations, and cast is decided on by a group of producers. Sometimes real tension and drama can develop between cast members and that is gold for producers. It is then their job to steer the direction of that drama, in interviews and situations.
You have to remember that crews have a 12 hour a day limit for work, so all the locations are set up before hand.
Some shows, like the real work, have night crews that come in a take over for the day crew so they can be filming 24/7.
Just like in scripted shows, networks need their reality shows to get ratings, that doesn't happen without good story producers.
No reality show is real
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:31:20 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some kind of restaurant hidden camera thing for the food network where the waitress was supposedly unaware she was being filmed. Totally fake show but at least the food was delicious. The other extras they hired were hilariously dumb and asked loudly "Where the cameras hidden?" once seated in their booth. Fake fake fakidity fake.
hasumasu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:37:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL people love their reality TV.
livroselu ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:44:21 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
thank you so much for responding--cant wait to show my friend she'll laugh so hard
ghotiaroma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:45:27 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You might as well ask how many magic shows use real magic.
Funny thing, many people do think some parts of magic shows use real magic.
frosted1030 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:48:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A good friend of mine was on one of these shows. She says that it's a show, the reality part is a bit of improv but most of the situations are all staged by the producers to create drama.
Landscape_Contractor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:49:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've done the landscaping for two HGTV homes this year. When SHTF, that's not rigged. It really is a mad house. Here's my thought process to as why. People want to have the company name recognition of being on HGTV, so they underbid the work. When feet hit the jobsite though a lot of contractors are very "eh" because there is not much money in it for them so they focus on other high pay work. In the end, it causes deadlines to be missed and everyone to walk all over one another and stresses out every contractor on site.
What's rigged... not much it's pretty straight forward. The HGTV crew members are great and super friendly and very fashionable. It is pretty funny watching the hosts do their bits and pieces, sort of awkward actually.
mavric91 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:54:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I worked for one of the big "audition"style shows for a weekend. It was the open casting call weekend. On tv it looks like thousands of people line up and wait all day and everyone goes in front of the celebrity judges. No. Thousands line up and then they wait all day and go into one of thirty rooms that have a producer or two in them. They go in in groups and get 30 seconds to do whatever in front of everyone else. They have cameras set up in the rooms. But there is no film in them. At the end of the weekend they have boxes full of paperwork. Most are already marked no. Some are marked yes. The thing that gets me... Some of the ones marked yes to come back and audition on stage were awful acts. They call them back just to make good tv so some brittish prick can pick on them for a few minutes. Happy Independence Day everyone.
Ciscokid60 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:23:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My niece tried out for The Voice. There was a huge line around the building. When she and my sister finally got towards the front, they chose several people to go in together and then they individually auditioned in front of the producers or whoever. My niece said that everyone that went in with her were really good, but none of them were picked to audition on the show.
Worstdriver ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on a driving reality show. Hence my reddit name. Things on that show weren't so much scripted as guided toward certain outcomes. The hosts would leave out bits of info for some drivers so they would not know to watch for things, or nudge people toward conflicts with each other. Or, try to get a driver to push themselves past what they were comfortable with or thought was safe to do.
Classic example was during the 'confession car' bits. Everyone is actually answering questions asked of them. Always. But when you answer the question you are prompted with "Can you rephrase that as a statement?" Or, "Can you say that again as if you were talking to them?"
TehDragonGuy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:05:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My cousin was on 60 Minute Makeover. Unsurprisingly, it wasn't done in 60 minutes, but that's not to say they didn't do a good job. The house did look very good afterwards, and they've had no issues even a couple of years on.
seriouswill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:47 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
For anyone who gives a damn I was on one of the Serious Series broadcast in 2005 I think? On CBBC, (but on BBC1) before digital channels. And I can tell you 100% that none of it was fake.
Which is fairly impressive when you consider the environments that these young kids go through. What's really cool is the crew often stayed the same each series (though I was only on one) and they got to go to the Arctic , Amazon, Andes! All whist carrying 60pound cameras! Amazing guys, unforgettable experience.
I was a prize twat of a teenager though. Haha!
karlos_1992 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always wanted to do these shows as a kid !
seriouswill ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:45:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah it was a lot of fun. Changed my whole perspective on the world at a young age, made me far more independent and brave. Since then I've lived in other countries, and moved on my own to foreign cities. Incredibly emboldening.
MyNameIs_Ross ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:16:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Friends of mine were "followed" around by a production crew for some Dutch television show that wanted to depict the "real" St. Paddy's Day from an Irish perspective. My friends were fed alcohol by the crew and the locations were chosen by the production team. It was sold as reality and documentary but it was quite heavily produced and it wasn't even filmed on Paddy's Day. Also, the producer was a fucking loser.
Hero-13 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:21:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Idk if I'm too late but I was on Lets make a deal Halloween edition a few years ago. The only thing rigged was that they choose the contestants before the show starts and they tell Wayne Brady where they are in the crowd so he can go grab or point them down for the games.
whateverbecky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:27:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was in a documentary for the OWN network. I had no idea that they stage things for documentaries. They didn't give me a script, but they did tell me WHAT they wanted me to talk about at certain points. Like if I was sitting there talking about my dog, the producers would be like 'Your dog sounds adorable, but could you talk about _____ some more?' It was annoying. Didn't feel authentic.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on a small network reality sports TV show hosted by Dion sanders. Not much of it was staged, but god damn do those people know how to edit footage to make it look a certain way. Very manipulative with the film reel.
maahhkus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My sister is currently mic'd up at a reality show wedding in Greece. So I'll let you know.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's all fake, it's all edited. TV is theatre and just because it looks real it isn't. Friend is in set design and has worked on everything from the bachelor to 1001 ways to die to every Cohen bros film and even Toyota Tundra commercials. It's a shame he says, don't believe anything. He just laughs.
Konungr330 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:59 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a conversation with a contestant on The Voice, he is a family friend. He said the show and judging is real enough, but the interviews and personas of each contestant are exaggerated or fake. For example the "hot single guy" is actually a married man with two kids. My friend's parents had died, that was his go to sob story. Every time they needed an interview they asked him to recount their deaths ect. He said overall it was positive, just a little dramatized.
JKJOH ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend auditioned for America's got talent. She was just a singer and she was damned good at it but according to her she was shot down mostly because she grew up in a wealthy family and had no special backstory.
skulman7 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:43:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Friend was on tiny houses. His girlfriend already bought the property and the show reached out to her months later. "Looked" at two other properties before deciding on the one they already lived in
newbieker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My high school was on a show called "School Pride", sort of like Extreme Makeover Home Edition but for schools. I don't know all the ins and outs of production since I was just a student (and not one of the administrators working with the production folks) but what was aired on TV was a pretty inaccurate depiction of my school. They portrayed my school as if it was a performing arts school, which it definitely wasn't. I think they did it because we had some pretty bad arts facilities so by portraying us as a performing arts school, they were dramatizing the conditions that our school was in. Also, in the opening scene they showed a roach crawling around - which definitely happens occasionally, don't get me wrong, but my friend (who was a volunteer for the show while they worked on the school) saw someone plant the roach specifically to film it.
NewRandomHero ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Late, but last year I spent a day working with MTV UK filming an episode for a (then) new show.
Everything was pretty honest. The story was already there (some friendship drama thing) and the producers didn't intervene in the conversations other than stuff like, "Could you elaborate on that?" or, "Could you explain that in a different way?"
It was also very dead as they were filming in a bar at 9am on a Monday so some creative camera work was required to liven the place up. We also had to be absolutely silent during filming; they added lots of music and crowd noise in post.
The star was very high-maintenance, but was very personable and would talk to anyone who approached her when standing around. She was one of the more professional people there, interestingly. She got upset over a minor continuity error that you would never have noticed in the episode unless you knew it was there (as I did).
The producers were decent enough people, they paid for everyone's drinks for the day which added up to quite a lot. My favourite person there was the security guy who has worked with MTV for years and had loads of hilarious stories about doing security work for various celebrities.
The show and episode itself were shit, but the process was very honest. Maybe that's why it was shit.
mcdougishole ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:45:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine was a contestant on the first season of The Voice. Apparently he was told before his performance that Blake Shelton would turn his chair around for him and to go with Blake Shelton over any other judges that might turn for him.
Later, when they were doing the sing-off-in-the-ring thing, he had been told ahead of time that he would not be picked to continue despite the fact that all 3 judges besides Blake Shelton all said on-camera that he should be the one to continue. They edited out Adam Levine's praise to make it look less unfair that Blake picked the other contestant.
thedesignproject ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:51:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wonder what they would have done if he went against them and picked another judge.
mcdougishole ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 22:00:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My only guess would be cancel his appearance altogether.
Esteedy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:46:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was in a couple episodes of a reality show and what I found interesting was the way they film those cut scenes of people talking to the camera. Your basically having a conversation with the producer that happens to have a camera over his shoulder. He asks you very precise questions to get a response they can cut and edit into what they want the viewer to hear. You almost forget your being filmed. It's very easy to slip up as they try to guide you into controversial conversations.
Geor4v3 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:47:04 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was onboard while a few episodes of drug wars were filmed on a coast Guard Cutter. Everything was real and unscripted. The military doesn't let these shows affect operations, they are just in the way and take up our racks. They were also only onboard for 3 weeks and said they were onboard he whole 3 months.
MankeyManksyo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:50:01 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not my story but here is a story of someone who competed on Legends of the Hidden Temple turns out it sucks, and was pretty rigged
thisisyourreward ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:19:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even as a kid I could tell the temple run thing was an epic fail with everything being luck and not enough time to complete the run unless you hit everything exactly right.
donutsfornicki ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:33 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My old roommate was on Cupcake Wars a few times and said that it was pretty silent and boring. Like a normal workday in the kitchen but in a nicer kitchen and with cameras. The producers told them to have more energy, look panicked, and edited huffing sounds and random facial expressions into little conversations to make it look like there were stressful argument between team members.
Chaoslabrith ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:53:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on teen age tourettes camp back in 05. More of a documentary that turned reality show. Most of it was all real with planned outings. Main thing was resorting bits they liked. I think I made a cup of tea like 8 times for them to get the best shot. Was an amazing experience tho, would love to do more if I ever got the chance.
NRMusicProject ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:56:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Went on a date with a girl on the Bachelorette. She was written out when she decided she didn't want to be competing against a bunch of catty women, and they made a different story to make her seem a little nuts (keeping details sparse to protect her identity).
Played on a few reality singing shows like the Voice (but not the voice). Two things that I learned by doing this:
1.) We aren't playing live, just miming the notes, and
2.) Even the people in charge of us don't know who's getting voted out. The results of each episode really is a surprise to everyone.
piranhadub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:03:16 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I knew someone who saw Criss Angel in Vegas years ago. She was involved in a disappearing act trick and she had to sign paperwork stating that she couldn't reveal how the trick worked. She told me it was a trap door and a hidden hallway or something.
DrugsbunnyFTW ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:07:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I been on a show called ''De Harde Leerschool'' Dutch version of School of hard Nox. It's about like young adults who are like basically street rats, don't really have any job or school and just waste their life so they learn and play rugby and learn discipline and if they finish the 6 weeks successfully they get a guaranteed job offered. It's also zero tolerence, so one time fighting or coming late more than twice will get you kicked out. Anyhow I was in this cause at that time I did not have a job or went to school cause I quit my school so I signed up cause why not, free job. We were filmed the entire time for TV but a lot of stuff that was shown on TV was only the drama and the stuff that potrays everyone as ''bad people'' Showing only the bad stuff we did when we talked about it and whenever we were talking or doing something good they cut it out, scetching the image that everyone there was a lost cause yet no one was, everyone was great. They did not care for the stuff you did right, only what you did wrong and what showed drama. There was a little fighting, not physically but close to it so they filmed it and put it on TV but not the part where they made up and played together nice again. They just cared for the drama.
Shamandenney ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:12:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My uncle almost made it on "the apprentice". He even had to go in for an interview. He said it was like a group interview and he left after the instructor told people to hit one another. He said the ones that wouldn't didn't advance and the ones that did hit someone did advance. Kinda crazy they just wanted to see how much audacity someone had.
videogamesandtears ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:14:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I auditioned for American Idol a few years ago. The first audition is NOT in front of the judges we all know and love(?). Your first audition is basically in front of interns. They take four people at a time, all four singing for about 15 seconds. If the interns are in a bad mood, or if you get sent to a bad table (there are multiple tables to interns), then all four get the boot. Even if you sounded good, if you don't have that mainstream pop sound and imagine, you automatically don't go through.
The second round is in front of producers, and then it's either to the main judges or executive producers and then main judges. Basically it's a way to narrow things down. At the time, Disney World still had their Idol Experience attraction (which is basically Idol, you audition and compete and everything all in one day) and the winners of the experience get a free front-row ticket to real Idol auditions. The majority of people that make it to the filmed auditions are people who won in Disney World.
The whole process of the first audition took too long days: one to register and one to audition. You meet a lot of talented and cool people, so in the end it was an enjoyable experience.
Also, I should point out that on the audition form they ask you about any hardships in your life. Bring on the sob stories!
BabeOfBlasphemy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:18:10 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dated a guy on a reality show out of Chicago. Said the show was based on their most memorable moments in the history of their operation, actors were brought in to essentially recreate the scenes.
jrm2007 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:17 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Tangentially related: I am seeing people who are supposed to not be actors on commercials who I have seen on network shows. Not sure why they would do this -- maybe only saw it once but am pretty sure a guy from Mad TV was being "surveyed" in a car commercial.
Saw a little girl who had been on Sarah Silverman in Are You Smarter than a 5th Grader.
I am guessing it is fairly hard to find "real" people who can be effective on TV, even with minimal speaking.
Point is, TV is about getting people to watch/buy things and a little dishonesty is not apparently a problem.
illmatthew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:19:55 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine was on a tattoo competition show on Oxygen called Best Ink. It's hosted by Pete Wentz of Fallout Boy. For half the season he was on tour, so they had him pre-record a bunch of stuff where he was explaining challenges, etc., and all the contestants had to act like they were speaking to Pete Wentz. In reality it was just one of the producers.
Other weird/noteworthy stuff to mention:
-When they were done recording for the day, they were sent to their hotel rooms, where they were not allowed to leave or interact with other contestants. They were only allowed to use their phones for 1 hour a night. My friend was not allowed to bring even offline electronics like an ipod or Nintendo DS, or even books/magazines.
-When recording the "judging" portions, those dramatic pauses were actually LONGER than what is portrayed on television. Before they were going to announce a winner, or who was being voted off, they'd spend several minutes getting footage of each contestant looking worried/shocked/satisfied etc. For 5-7 minutes of television, they may spend up to 4 hours gathering dramatic pause footage.
-When the cameras were not rolling, the production team would yell "ICE," meaning no one was allowed to talk anymore. Apparently they didn't want to miss any funny or dramatic moments, so no talking. Sometimes ICE would last several hours.
-One contestant got very sick during a challenge after eating some bad Chinese food earlier that day. He had to be rushed to the hospital and ended up having his stomach pumped. He was gone for a significant part of the next challenge, and they did not give him extra time to work on his piece. As a result, it wasn't finished in time and he was kicked off.
Toomuchgamin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on G4TV's Arena and they made me seem shittier than I was. Ok I admit I didn't know any of the games I played because the team captain was an idiot and didn't give us the list, and I did suicide in the lava a few times, but I wasn't that bad! The American Gladiators guy just kept talking shit...
Renaud22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Cheating on partner + suicide = not riggued.
This happened in the neighborhood where my parents'band's drummer lived. The show was about neighbors helping poorer ones fancy up their house. It's a Frenh reality tv show which might still air but I wouldn't know. Anywy so the show filmed there and they fixed a couple's house then the production left when all the work was done, they had done their share. Problem.is the house started creating envy and bitterness among the helpers and soon everyone resented the couple. They each blamed it on each other of course and the woman ended up cheating on her husband with one of the neighbors. When the husband found out he went to the train tracks and killed himself. It was december of 2013 or 14 d the story stayed with me a while because I was on the train which he used to end his life.
Keskekun ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:20:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Used to help out with the set of big brother (as in building stuff) from what I gather it's just dramaqueens and alcohol. Sometimes when the drama is low they will show clips of people talking shit to the drunks and drama happens.
paxthree ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:21:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know it's not a reality show but when I was in school we had the Sex Education Show come and do an episode one of the scenes was a couple having a scan to find out the sex of their child. Basically they did 5 takes and the couple were told to still act surprised.
I was involved in a workshop-type activity where we had to say whether different methods (such as sex whilst on a period) would get you pregnant. They edited out every time we got a correct answer to make us look clueless. Also they kept stopping filming and the presenter was told to emphasise certain parts more (for example, the importance of wearing a condom or something).
Not as organic as it looked when it aired!
MrsMeteor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:22:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Most of what you say ends up being scripted. They just tell you what to say and how to say it.
barrythemagicalfart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:26:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
phoning in is rigged. i was on a show called "tricky" on itv on saturday mornings. i was picked by itv when they came to my youth club for auditions for "name that toon" only this was months later. i was on the phone with them a week before practicing and they rang me saturday morning and told me my number was 4. i watched the show and seen they wanted people to call in for the same competition(which i never entered, i was approached by itv) then it came to it and a wheel was spun, and 4 came up. i won a shitload of toys as rich from the band 5ive ran around putting things in as long as i could hold the word santa. thing i was a good 30 seconds.
XiSal- ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friends family was on one of those shows where you are looking for a holiday home and you would give your preferences on the type of home, neighbourhood etc and the people would find it for you. He told me it was similar to how its presented on to. The staff went through lengths to find you the dream home and they wanted genuine reactions when they found something to show them.
KitKatMasterJapan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:35:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
See, what I want to know is it that show "unREAL" is a representation of what it's like to work on a reality TV show like that?
Muyo365 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 00:09:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Great show.
Crazyguyintn ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:35:31 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My school was on extreme makeover. The reveal was completely staged. Also when they first come up to the house, or in our case the school, and get the first appearance. We all knew it was happening. None of that was real at all.
osufan19 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:36:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some of my good friends were on a popular talent show. The guy was forced to ask the girl to prom. The whole thing was a hoax.
PassablySane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:39:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does anyone know if Naked and Afraid is fake? I am going to be sad if that is not real.
trojanfl ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Went to a major college on Los Angeles, all the kids in the fraternities and sororities were always recruited for shows or to be in audiences. Lie lie lie. Good friend on buzz. Had a girlfriend. They basically said pretend you don't have a gf, be a jock and be entertaining. I was interviewed by rolling Stones for a college sex story. Any story had to be first hand. So my gf and I told our detaiks, but any wild story of our friends... we were told to say it was us so they can include it
DisMomIsDaBomb ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:42:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My ex husband and I were on Camilla Scott. Granted nobody remembers that Canadian gem. The topic was couples "quirks". We were told to embellish and given things to say. Free trip to Toronto and $40 each. So embarrassing.
nerfezoriuq ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:44:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a coworker who was on House Hunters on HGTV. Well in order to be on that show you have to have bought your house already. So there really isn't any deciding, they have already made the decision and purchase they are just playing it on for the cameras.
Corgon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:48:25 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My Uncle in law and his son were on Big Rig Bounty Hunters. He told us all about it at one point, but I've forgotten quite a bit. I can't remember if they were actual repos or not (I think they were) but it was set up to be way more dramatic than it is. The directors would give the actors a scenario, but everything beyond that was pretty much impromptu. Interactions between the cast were genuine and the little interview snippets weren't scripted. Things are edited to seem more dramatic, what you see on the show may not have happened in the same chronological order.
Twigsnapper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:24 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was on Sex Sent me to the Er. We just video taped at a local hotel. Was pretty straight forward and fun to tell that story. Nothing was really embellished. The actors that portrayed us were really cool too
ScrewThis1029 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:41:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haha I love that show! Glad to know that the stories are real :)
LordFlashy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Late to the party, but I sorta have something to contribute for once! There is a show called Mentai Wide here in southern Japan and one segment a guy shows up at a house, supposedly at random right at supper time and get invited in to join and have supper with the family. He came to our place just as the lasagna done....around 3 in the afternoon. I had to work in the evening, so they scheduled him to come early, and we "had supper" then. The part that pissed me off was me telling an experience of a friend of a friend story, and they edited it to make it look like it was me, making me look stupid. Pissed me off. I got an apology from the director later, but it really doesn't mean anything at that point.
QueenDivine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:56:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Its like a conspiracy or something
gswiftblade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:22 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know a woman who won Cutthroat Kitchen this past season. She is not a chef, but she's set to be on a new Housewives spin-off and producers wanted to drum up some hype about the stars. IRL she's divorcing and losing the "mansion".
Lagenteloca ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on a Canadian reality room makeover show called "Rooms that rock". They claimed it would take 2-3 days to finish. It took a week! Not a big deal! I still had fun! The crew were amazing!
theprograhamer ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:30 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This podcast does a great job explaining a lot of the behind the scenes of reality TV editing: http://robhasawebsite.com/reality-tv-post-production-editing-molly-shock-podcast/
TLDR: Competition shows are mostly legit, but they're heavily editied so that situations are very misrepresented. Non-comp reality shows are sometimes completely staged
Kevincore ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:58:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know a woman who lives in the same town as, knows, the Ghost Hunters and I had to ask her if they really are Roto Rooter plumbers and she said yes they are, they both have families and the show doesn't pay that much and even if they did they needed to be sure they could feed their family should the show be canceled.
Not sure that counts but that's all I know lol.
ryshark14 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:59:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Bit late and I've posted before, but ah well.
Didnโt end up on it, but my family was approached to take part in a German version of the reality show โThe Worldโs Strictest Parentsโ (Die strengsten Eltern der Welt?). The reason being my father is somewhat well known in my country for being a bit of a wild man; looks like a Viking, very into the outdoors, fishing, hunting etc. Theyโd found a special of him on 60 minutes and a few clips of him adventuring online and thought that Germans would enjoy watching bad kids being set straight by the โbear manโ.
Anyway the interaction was done through a middleman so to speak, who outlined what would be required of us, and what (small) compensation we would receive for going along with it. At the outset it seemed fine, even a little exciting. We had had close ties with a lot of exchange students in the past (we lived in a very small community in the mountains and we all loved traveling), and my father didnโt seem to mind the sound of helping out some struggling kids and possibly showing them a different side of life. Not necessarily that hunting and the outdoors are the only way to go, but more open their minds a little and take them out of their comfort zone etc. We watched a few clips of the show online and decided that we were laid back enough as a family the that drama wouldnโt really wind us up or anything
Well alarm bells started ringing after a bit more correspondence with the middleman. He started insinuating that there would be times where the kids would be told to play up situations, and that we would have to either roll along with the staged drama, or actively join in and amp it up for the cameras. My dad laid it out pretty straight, saying heโd be happy to take these kids under his wing and show them some pretty cool adventures - he had glacier crossing, hiking through rainforests, caving, white water kayaking, hunting (or at least watching him hunt) and tons of other activities across our country all planned out. Iโd just become a SCUBA instructor and even offered to take them out diving on geothermal vents. But they really stressed the whole โpeople watch this show to see bad kids act batshit crazy, so thatโs what youโre expected to encourageโ vibe. We politely turned them down at this stage.
A few months later the middleman actually emailed us and told us it was probably a good idea that we hadnโt gone along with it. Apparently they never paid him for any of his work organising host families or setting up scenarios. Ah well, dodged a bullet there I guess. All my friends in Germany seemed to think so!
TL;DR German reality show wanted us to encourage struggling teens to throw temper tantrums and make my Dad look like an angry bear man. Turned them down
bK_17 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:03:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
any jeremy kyle? The show would be even more hilarious if it's real.
ImOnRedditAndStuff ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:05:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a buddy who is the camera guy for a reality show. He says that, in terms of speaking lines, the director tells them what they have to talk about and when, but they don't have a script so they talk about it using their own words.
direwooolf ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:06:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i had a friend on the springer show and she got in a fight. it was pretty fake but the fight was kinda real and they encouraged her to drink before the show.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:08:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Um, in my case, they specifically told one team to antagonise my team and create a rivalry. I didn't find out until a little later in filming when the antagonists got eliminated and told me why they suddenly were mean. Turns out the crew thought we were all too nice and supportive of each other and wanted some drama. So the drama was real and unscripted, but the feelings behind it weren't true. Other than that, everything was real, even though the tropes page doesn't seem to think so.
lumpiestprincess ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:09:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not sure if this will get seen but I was on Sat Yes to the Dress Canada. Honestly it's pretty authentic. I went in with an idea of what kind of dress I wanted, a real consultant helped me try on dresses, and we showed my friends/family until I picked a dress. It was a lot of fun and everyone on the crew and at the shop was beyond nice. I'd say it was all pretty real.
Georgiraffe ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:10:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Probably too late to the party with this, but...
I get fairly regularly hired as a musician for the singing reality shows (eg. Voice, X Factor) for the live show rounds. While I don't know for certain if things are rigged or not, one week I was hired for 3 or 4 contestants, one of whom had multiple string players, a full brass section, plus onstage band and behind-stage band; she was eliminated before she got to perform. We all still got paid, and I heard offhand from a passing crew member that the song would have cost the network around $20,000. Can't really see that they'd be rigging shows to purposely lose that much money.
WickedWaysPays ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:11:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This again?
OiMcCoy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:20:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My good friend won Big Brother Canada. What they actually experiance is far more crazy than what the show would have you think. So as far as being rigged goes, I would argue it would be the least offender. They take it all very seriously.
daria87 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:22:06 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There's a show in my country (non-english speaking), which every episode is a sort-of docu about the daily life of some poor family in a rural area.
Well, after 10++ seasons of course confessions surfaced (from neighbors and not-so close relatives) that they exaggerate stuffs. One said his neighbor was made to ride an old bicycle to work when he has his own vehicle. Or the other was made to "live" in a wooden hut while he has an actual brick-and-mortar house next door (the hut was an old property of theirs) . One house looked like it hadn't electricity but they have full applieances and even satellite tv. Also , the producers loved making interviewed kids cry by asking trigger inducing questions like about the deceased mom or dad. This part is really obvious and made me stop watching it entirely.
I guess they do this because the show collects donations from viewers who watches it (they never fail to include the show's official bank account number at every episode) , so they need all the sob - inducing clips they can get.
Cupcakesandguns ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:22:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My parents worked on the set of an Extreme Home Makeover. All the stars of the show were only there twice. Near the beginning and at the end. They would be doing multiple houses at once and would fly all over the country to get some shots done. Turns out, the lady who had her house built after her husband passed, sold it a year later for a large sum of money.
Tyloor ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:22:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
/u/DanGheesling ?
HaMMeReD ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:23:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was in the audience of a show that was meant to be "reality". Canada's next rockstar or something similar.
There was a lot of pauses and reorganization, occasionally multiple takes. No audience voting, everything felt pre-determined. We could pretty much tell who was chosen to win from the moment we sat down.
Jonny4SQRE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:25:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Back when Extreme home makeover was super popular you could volunteer to be on the show if the home was near you. My mom being the kind lady she is volunteered to help with whatever she could. She thought that she would be removing junk from the house or nailing stuff up but nope. She was told to wear a hazmat suit and when beckoned walk in and pretend to spray mold, that was it. She told me that they had like 10 professionals do the actual work and about 50 volunteers to look like they're working.
coltrecon ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:40:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're
thirteenoranges ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I sat in on one of the Real Housewives reunions. They spend about 10 hours showing the women provocative video clips and asking them questions to aggravate them. They strategically bring in significant others during certain topics to get everyone riled up. During the short lunch break, they liquor the cast up. And they shut the air conditioning off for most of the day (because of the "microphones"). So by the end of the 10 hours they're all at each other's throats.
KitKatMasterJapan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:40:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
wait... there are actually people there watching? Do you get to interact with the ladies at all? Which City/season?
thirteenoranges ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:26:31 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Just the crew, I knew someone who was working on it.
youleftsomethingout ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:27:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm friends with people who were on Storm Chasers and have interacted with many of them. While they really did chase the storms and there was occasional drama, much of the drama was manufactured. The episodes were also aired out of order and often times edited for events to fit better. On one episode during the last season it shows a chase team calling it quits, when in reality that team chased for another 3 hours.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:28:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They did an episode or MADE at my high school. It is 100 percent staged.
alexwtzk ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:33:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My aunt and uncle were the household of choice for an episode of World's Strictest Parents, which is pretty funny because they're not even close to the strictest parents I know. The rest of the premise was pretty legitimate though; they really did take in 2 troubled kids for the show, that gave them a lot of shit. What the episode didn't feature was a breakdown from my Aunt telling the cameramen to "fuck off, the show was over, [they] quit" because the girl they took in was a complete nightmare.
Chilakiller ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:34:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a relative who works in Acapulco Shore, which it's the mexican version of Jersey Shore and he/she once told me that the clubs aren't from Acapulco, but from Cancun because there are more good looking people there (mostly europeans) and is much safer to film too (there has been many deaths from the local cartel for quite some time).
What they do is that the crew films the exterior of some clubs in Acapulco but in reality the contestants are in another one in Cancun.
CongoAndTheNuggets ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:37:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I don't know if "The Voice" counts, but it was pretty much what you see, except its more glorified on television. I was on season 8. The coaches are nice but you don't get to spend as much time with them as the show leads you to believe. You spend a lot of time with vocal coaches behind the scenes, and with the rest of The Voice crew, who are amazing.
ladycarp ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:39:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm late to the party. But I was on a season of College Hill on BET, which is essentially the black Real World.
There were several staged fights, but vast majority of the are real. Those ppl were ghetto as fuck sometimes. But when we saw our mansion, we had to do a retake of our reaction.... three times. Apparently we weren't hyped enough.
I started talking to a cute guy once at a club, got him to come visit me later, and the producers started harassing him to try to "steal me" from a guy I was just screwing but the show labelled my boyfriend. He stopped talking to me.
They also edited a ton of scenes where certain reaction shots were edited for other conflicts. For example, I was woken up because my asshole roommate was screaming and causing a scene at 3:30 in the morning, and the editors recut my reaction to be about another roommates basketball playing in the house, then got everyone to comment on it in interviews. He hardly ever played in the house, though.
Just petty shit.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:41:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My stepfather was on an episode of Gator Boys. He said the producer or whoever showed up at his house and knocked on his door, told him his house would be a great place to film the show. They brought in the gator and dumped it in the pond out front and then filmed themselves removing it. Gave him a scripted story to tell for the camera about how the gator came in under the fence and how he called the Gator Boys for help.
BeastaBubbles ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:42:27 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Had a friend who worked for and was on Duck Dynasty. While the family really is exactly how they're portrayed, most of it is scripted. But they really are just crazy, kind, conservative, country folk.
VendoThefastlane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:43:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
WAY back when I was on Extreme Makeover as a bad clothes model, it was surprisingly accurate. My fashion is atrocious, I wore my own clothes, and of camera I got real fashion tips I remember to this day, and some clothes. It was a fun experience.
BUT, if you are ever in Japan or just watching the "wacky Japanese TV" clips that make Japan seem so "crazy", I am sorry to burst your bubble on the setup.
Here, EVERYTHING in a reality or variety show is so rehearsed, it makes American reality TV look like heartfelt spontaneity. I've done a few shows here and it feels so dirty to portray anything as authentic. My first gig on morning TV for example had me as "Jack Russell", and as part of a quiz. "He's now popular in Japan!" "He gives soft kisses!" And junk like that. I was behind one window, a dog behind another, and a "famous" "comedian" behind the last. This huge douche in a bow tie, the "Quiz King", practices for an hour before on how to be surprised by the choices, his clever line off the top of his head, and the wacky way he will miss the question act exasperated like he can't believe it. All this time the director constantly gives feedback and yells at the King. And the dog shit everywhere.
You may think Happen is wacky and crazy on TV with guys forced to sumo wrestle when getting a question wrong or girls shrieking in few by being put in a box and being covered with lizards or some shit, it is all completely consensual and almost certainly practiced.
Other than seriously produced news presentation, never ever believe anything on Japanese TV ever.
IronChefChest ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:02 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on a christmas light reality show. A lot of it was accurate. Although they recorded us for a total of 6 or 7 days for roughly 20 minutes of tv time. Using what we gave them they wove a story line. The one thing that kind of irked us was that they somewhat painted us as backwoods rednecks even though we were very much city people.
This is something I posted over a year ago about the subject: I was on a reality competition show that was on network tv. I'm not saying what show it is because we won and have yet to receive the money so I'm being cautious. The camera crew followed us around for a couple of days while we did our activities. As they filmed us the producer would stop us every so often to have us repeat what we did or repeat what we said or ask us to go into more detail about something. After the producer found a story line to us she would try to ask us questions in relationship to that story line. Producer : "You just mentioned that you love doing this activity as a kid, say that part again and describe how you felt about it when you were a kid" "Good now do it again but we need to get another angle on you" When we finally watched the show we were kind of off put because they painted us to be these rednecks from the country when reality we are just from the south and live in the city. In the end we came up with our own lines a hundred percent but were asked to repeat or emphasis quite a bit.
srxcustom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was involved with an episode of MTV's Made. The person who wanted to be made into a Rockstar was going to do a battle of the bands. The producer of the show told her that when the cameras started rolling, her mentor was going to say that the speakers weren't going to make it in time and that she had to cry. She 'cried'. The speakers were in fact behind the camera man.
treescant ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:49:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not really a "reality show", but I was on a pretty popular american quiz show once. It was all real, besides the timing of episodes vs when they're taped. One week of shows is taped in a day. The "fun fact" about every contestant is picked by the host of the show, you give three examples of stuff you've done and the host picks which one he wants to talk about. It was fun, really. There's also electronic rising steps behind the podiums to even out the heights of contestants.
DracoCharky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:50:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My dad frequents the local auction house, which has been on TV more than a couple of times, and he's confirmed something that you probably guessed- whenever something goes to auction, there are members of the crew in the audience to bid the items up. Mostly because you can tell exactly which items are with the TV show (the lot numbers often end with an a where they've been put in) so people rarely bid on them.
Also, a lot of the time, the people shown as bidding on the items are not the actual people who bid on them, since you have to sign to say you're OK with being on TV. They once had to go find my dad while he was getting a coffee next door to get him to sign.
alex0827 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:51:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know someone who was on a renavation competition show. In real life they could not chooses how they wanted to design the room, the producers did. They were basically just labour, building someone else's design.
JustARealTreat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:52:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on House Hunters about 10 years ago. You have to be under contract to purchase a house to get on it. I just walked around houses making fun of them (including the one under contract). They try and use houses you had looked at while deciding but not everyone wants people talking shit about the house they're trying to sell, so sometimes they pick houses for you that you're seeing for the first time. Awkward if they show you a house you like better than the one you're already buying.
RNAPII ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:50:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Man, I still went to open houses after I bought myself, it was almost habit because house hunting took up so much of my life for a year (Bay Area, vicious market). It was heartbreaking seeing houses better than the one I bought. Same with houses we bid on but didn't get. It sucked.
FierceTom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:52:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on dickensons real deal (uk antiques show)
I literally sat down with my teapot I was selling and the show went from there!
I did a 'piece to camera' where the director asked me what i was selling and why, which the expert didn't see, and then an after sale piece where I discussed what I sold and whether I was happy or not
The entire bargaining and deal scenario wasn't scripted, the money on the table was actual cash which I put in my pocket and then walked out of the room with!
soaringtyler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's rigged?
EVERYTHING!
Takes2ToTNGO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:53:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A little late, but a friend of mine was on Mantracker. The show is 100% real. The cameraman run alongside the competitors, trying to hide from the mantracker. The only thing that I was told that they don't show on the show, is during the night, the cameraman runs back to where the production team is set up, and will bring back food or drink for the competitors, if they wanted it.
thedesignproject ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:02:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always assumed it was fake because how would Mantracker not notice a crew running behind contestants?
Takes2ToTNGO ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:15:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He probably does sometimes, but most of the time it's just one crew member, who tries as hard as the contestants to hide.
TheAbyssGazesAlso ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No stories about Survivor yet? I used to love Survivor back for the first 5 or 6 seasons. Someone tell me if it's all real or all BS... :-)
LawdGiveMeLulz ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went to highschool with a kid whose family got chosen for Wife Swap. It's been a while but basically he told me everything is scripted. They faked fights between the spouses and fabricated conflicts for the kids to have with the swapped mom. He said the producers had him fake cry for those room diary segments and make up bullshit about "how it was so hard."
The best part about that episode was that we all discovered his mom sold sex toys and naturally high school being the vicious zoo that it is, he caught plenty of flak for it.
BoilerNation ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:54:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does anyone know how real/scripted 'Restaurant Impossible' with chef Robert Irvine was?? I've always wondered that.
Blessing727 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:59:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on an episode of blind date called bikini clad bible belcher Rebekah. They tell you to act a certain way and to improv being mad or sad. Also they told Rebekah to say she wasn't into me at the end but she was. She invited me to her house for a viewing party. I had a chance but I got drunk and made out with her friend and screwed it up. It's basically bullshit improv. It was fun.
ravebears ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on an episode of "Craft Wars," a craft competition show. The producers told my partner during the competitiin to say certain things outloud like "something is wrong," or "we have a problem." It seemed as though they had premeditated drama and were playing us. Watching the actual episode on TV I realized how many voiceovers the show host did, often saying things that weren't actually said during actual filming.
ckinney15 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Throwdown with Bobby Flay. Only thing that isn't faked it the surprise. We all figured out what it was because of the confidentiality agreement to not talk about it till he episode shows. He was nice, and chatted with the crowd and every one. If we asked a question, the camera guys wanted to know what it was first so they could film it. He lost the throwdown.
1BoiledCabbage ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:00:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was once on a local reality TV show that had only one season, for a few reasons, mainly because some of the viewers caught on to the harsh conditions they put us in and got upset, being that we where teenagers. It was obviously rigged, the challenges that we did where easy but built to make certain players win.
The biggest rig was the one I was eliminated on. Normally, we would vote for people to be eliminated but this was a twist and the person with the most dunks in the dunk tank would be eliminated. Before my turn came up, a few others where dunked, even though the ball didn't hit the button and the host still counted it, which obviously upset the players. When it came to my turn, the seat kept falling without anyone throwing a ball and the host was still counting it, calling it "fair play" because I was still being dunked.
I wasn't too happy, neither where my parents and my team members where arguing with the host. I took it because there was nothing that I could do or say to sway his thoughts. In a way, I'm glad that they never got to do another season but I also believe that the host and the person running it could've been replaced.
TL;DR: My elimination was rigged
cvirus36 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:02:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was on one of those pawn shows. Everything is fake. Every. Single. Thing. They have a history of threatening lawsuits against people who say this sooo that's all I'm going to say.
GhOsT_wRiTeR_XVI ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on an unaired episode of House Hunters in 2010. The producers set me up with my "clients" and we went to look at about 10-15 houses that the producers hand picked. The buyers had actually purchased two months earlier, but had made no improvements. We pretended to look at their own house and had to do multiple takes explaining why the floors were bad, and then why the floors were good and so on and so forth.
The buyers then made improvements to their home and production returned to shoot the new additions, which took nearly 8 months, but it was explained that they only took a few weeks. The buyers were also facing foreclosure due to these improvements, but had to put on a brave face and pretend they were SOOOO happy with their decision.
In the end, it was decided that the couple just wasn't believable enough to make it to air. Nearly 9 months shooting and driving around and making up stories and home improvements for nothing.
Heroshade ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:04:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Judge Judy is a very nice lady and the cases are more or less already resolved before they are even considered for tv.
Sursion ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:05:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I wasn't actually on the show, but I met and talked with the producer for The Amazing Race Canada. She was nice, and revealed a lot. Unlike other reality shows, it's all done in one take, and very 'real.' The camera crew has to go through a 6 month training process to prep them for the race. When you come in last and get eliminated, you get shipped off to the finish line and stay in a nice 5 star hotel until the finale is ready, so you still get a nice vacation even if you were the first one out. Also, as is standard with reality shows, you still get paid even if you don't win. You just don't get as much
creatrixtiara ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:06:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I auditioned to Malaysian Idol in 2005 and got as far as the TV judges (that bit they show on TV at the beginning of any Idol show). After you audition they get you to do a short interview, yknow the mini ones where you talk about your experiences yadda yadda.
I had already done mine and was waiting for my ride to pick me up when I heard another contestant being lambasted by the TV judges for "sounding gay". Mind you, homosexuality is still illegal in Malaysia, but I thought it was really unfair that they were discriminating against a contestant like that. The producers noticed, and got me to rerecord my mini-interview, so I ranted about how homophobic they were being.
Predictably I didn't even make it on air. Not even a hint of my presence. Lost out to a Michael Jackson impersonator.
Hindesite ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:16:03 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I thought it was common knowledge that all "reality" TV was either heavily guided or/and heavily edited to give whatever angle they thought would sell best. I assumed it was all "rigged" in the sense that they encouraged every participant to act a certain way and if it didn't pan out they re-shot the scene or edited it to make it work.
robbviously ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:19:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend was on some dating show for MTV and I was her "best friend" that she would gossip with. In real life, yes we did that, but for the purpose of the episode, it felt extremely forced and unnatural. The guy she was "dating" she had met earlier that week at the casting call to better their chances of getting picked for the episode. The producer knew they were basically complete strangers and helped them craft a backstory for the show. She was constantly in contact with us during the week of filming, and during our "testimonials" she would ask us questions, but then if she didn't like our answers, the producer would say "okay, but now say it this way..." or "say that exact thing again, but don't say this..." It became increasingly awkward when my friend started dating her current boyfriend literally the day they started filming for the week (this filmed like 2 years ago and they're still together) and she had to kiss this other guy and pretend they were soulmates. I work in film and television production IRL, but had never done reality tv before that, so I got some lols out of the experience. Not sure if the show ever aired, it was pretty terrible. Or maybe it did and I just don't watch enough MTV.
mslaurasmith ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
If anyone finds a college with a BS or MS or PHD or anything in "alien" please let me know..
ally5e ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:27:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Friend A was on a reality TV show in Denmark - just like everyone else has stated, very scripted. However, they weren't good at it as the show was pretty boring.
Friend B just tried out for the voice. She's overweight and white but has a killer jazzy, low alto voice. The producer told her she needed her voice with her (pointing to a curvy black woman) body.
imeuru ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I am on an Alaskan reality show.
So basically, you have a bunch of producers and people in California calling the shots, they have an idea of what their audience wants to see, so they come up with a story line and pay everyone on the cast to get the shit done. Be it huge builds, hunting trips, etc. They mic you and film you and pay everyone to do it, including materials. They then take hundreds of hours of various clips and compress them into a 12 minute story that they think will cause the most people to tune in in order to have the highest ad views possible.
xSlippyFistx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:58 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which show?
Chasmata ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:09:15 on December 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Alaska Bush People
Entricia ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:34:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Know the thread is over, but still.
I was on one of those "One relative seeks to find another relative, relative is found, relatives unite"
Basically what they show on the show is that "They meet for the first time, hug, shed some tears and then talk". What happened in reality was that there was a meeting beforehand, and the "tearful reunion" thing is fake. They then recorded us looking through photo albums and talking over dinner.
Basically what happened is that we drove to the house, met the people, then went to designated places in the house and they set up the cameras, then the "TV reunion" took place.
Furthermore, the interviews of "oh yadda I want to find my sister I haven't seen since I was 1 years of age" follow a very specific template, they ask you questions that make good TV.
When the filming was done, all of us got drunk with the producers because fucks had run out.
mub ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:37:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Omg, no! This can't be. You should have kept this one a secret. How can I trust anything any more? I'm never talking to you again.
cantusethemain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:40:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Haven't been on one but I've worked in post on a bunch. We had very strict instructions that we could amp things up but we couldn't make things out of whole cloth. We did once cut an alternate ending because...reasons. But we aired the legit ending. I actually can't think of a time on any of the series that we outright lied.
RealDBCooper ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:48:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on a home renovation show where it seemed like they were doing me some huge favor - that I lived in some massive shit hole. At the beginning, they asked my neighbors something like, "Who has the worst house in the neighborhood?" They all responded with my name in unison.
The reality is that my house was one of the nicer ones. And the only reason I was "chosen" to have work done is because, you know, I APPLIED TO BE ON THE SHOW.
In general, the work they did was really good and it was totally worth it. The BS factor was there but minimal enough for me to not care. Simple stuff, like saying to my buddy, "Hey, can you maybe go off on how ugly his retaining wall is?"
Buddy: "Sure. Whatever you need."
Got a lot of great work done to my house. Totally worth it. But remember, kids, you gotta pay taxes on all that work. In the end I was about $4,000 to $5,000 out of pocket. But I knew that going into it, so all good.
Ircaussie ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:54:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Im a realtor I used to look up the deals from one of the million dollar listing show in LA in the local MLS and what you find is a lot of the deals don't actually close escrow even though the properties are "sold" in the show.
D0ntl3tth3boyzin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:57:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know I'm pretty late to the thread but Judge Judy is more real than you would think although the court room is really small she asked me no questions (witness to the plaintiff) and you're totally allowed to lie, there's no such thing as penalty of perjury in a private arbitration.
mark2fly1034 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:58:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sat as an audience member on family feud and they most have a great edit team. Stave Harvey goes off on so many targets in the middle of a question. Also they had to have one of the family members go back and re answer the same question, once because it was not something that would be allowed on TV the other was they needed it for either a voice over or because it did not come out right the first time.
Prolyde ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:13:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Our camp was on a show that was apparently called "buying the bayou." It had already been sold when they came to film, acting like they were looking to buy.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is CHEATERS real guys?
Blued00d ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:30:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/4r7elb/people_who_have_been_on_reality_tv_shows_whats/d4zjtr2
:)
AndyD516 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:20:45 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on Oddities. Literally everything was scripted. Everything I said in the store, everything I said in the side interview including the stupid joke they made me say, and the product that I was "selling" was also handed to me when I arrived to the set. I got to get my stupid face on tv tho, so thats pretty cool.
juddbagley ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:35:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was part of an episode of Extreme Makeover Home Edition. The home had been designed months in advance, not spontaneously like they let.you believe. The part where they gather the neighbors together was all choreographed. But everything else was truly spontaneous and even more emotionally impactful than what you see on TV.
It was a life changing experience. Truly.
Daghain ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:43:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on one. It was about 90% staged.
wooddoug ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:59:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shut up man! Next you'll tell me Danielle's tattoos aren't real.
yifftionary ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:32:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All of my innocent joy in these shows has died...
Zing79 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:56:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oh the stories I could tell. I work in reality lifestyle TV. Almost none of what you see is real. I'm sure people have watched these things and wondered why the asshat stays on. Why the meek contestant survives. And on and on. You can literally see it coming a mile away if you've done enough of these. Ratings win. Reality is for Docs. Producers will cast the show. Have a breakdown of story and season. And the talent on the show will be moved around to fit that original story.
But for the sake of being specific for fun - some highlights of my career: - Watching a female talent on a Home Reno show be given an extra hour to finish a task. While the male contestants were scared into completing the task quickly and haphazardly (on time). Watching the judges coach her on how to do the task (which she didn't even know how to do). Guess which contestant won that challenge? - Being on a show where talent were supposed to start off as spoiled brats and be exposed to sad things going on in the world. Teaching them the value of help. Making them better people. Except the shit heads were WORSE after seeing sad shit halfway around the world. You think the show reflected the reality? Heck no. It was pre-written they had to get better, so producers worked around everything they did to show "growth". - Hearing judges say team x and y are in the bottom of a challenge this week. Only to then hear a exec producer say "but wait". Followed by crew sitting around for 2 hrs while said producer brow beat the judges until team x won.
If a exec producer smells ratings. Reality can just get the f right out. I won't even watch what I make anymore. Because I know 90% of the real, and cool stuff I shot will never make it to air
There is one standout though. The Ultimate Fighter. Totally real. Not staged. Very little interference. And especially no pre-planned outcomes with fighters. That shit is so very very real.
ThatOneGuyCan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:58:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I had a friend's dad get called by American Pickers trying to verify that he had a particular item. While on the phone with he overheard them talking what the most they'd be willing to pay was. When they came to buy the item he priced it above their price so he'd get the most money for it. They then took the item and hid it in all of his shit so that they can film the guys "stumble" across this one of a kind item.
Guojob ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:59:55 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lp
SublimeDolphin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:18:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My friend's and sister was on X Factor a few years back and actually made it decently far. In real life she's a really nice girl, but the network cut scenes over a few episodes specifically to make her out to be a bitchy, entitled drama queen type.
They even built up some fake drama between her and Demi Lovato that was never remotely there. Obviously all her friends and family had watched and many thought it was all the truth. It was sad to see a girl with such a passion for singing just get absolutely crushed for the sake of ratings.
TheSpunkMobile ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everything about Reality TV is rigged.
killingvogue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:30:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My sister works on the set of various reality TV shows. I'll ask her for more stories, but my favourite is a show based in LA...that they actually filmed in the Philippines.
OxGaabe6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:34:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My sister made it pretty far in the auditions for for Idol. Was told that most of the auditions were pre-arranged by people's agents and that you had to be damn amazing to be one of the "undiscovered talents" they claimed to always find. Pretty much you had to have already been discovered to be considered "undiscoverable" enough for them to consider.
Another friend was a finalist on The Voice and is still (years later) in regular contact with the celeb judge who picked him. They occasionally do appearances together.
mistressbastet22 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:55:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sounds like the show Unreal.
ErrolSparker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:59:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's not illegal to lie to the cops. It's illegal to lie and get caught
ErrolSparker ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:00:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm jokin btw I have no issue with your comment because it is very true and contains info that might be helpful if someone comes across it
lizmastrooo ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:09:47 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Been on made, so pretty much everything on MTV
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:18:01 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I work on reality TV shows. Everything is fake. And what isn't faked on set is faked in the edit suite for maximum drama.
Although American pickers was mostly real (at least the earlier seasons) .
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:21:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This all reminds me of what a tour guide said at universal studios when I visited. He was bubbly, fun, made a lot of jokes, and was explaining a backstage part of a set and with a snap became deathly serious and said "folks, nothing in this town is real. The shows, the life, the people."
ghotiaroma ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:11:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The tour guides also make up stuff they say on the tour. And leave out things like most of the old sets burned down and what they're pointing to isn't from those old movies.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:33:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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Hangytangy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:35:48 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone have any input on big brother/big brother canada?
DMagis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:56:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Also, I live in Miami. South Beach tow is incredibly fake. In fact, one of the people on the show was my teacher in school. Its all pretty insane and I think only reinforces a lot of stereotypes
sailboatnanners ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:07:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My mom worked with a certain reality show when it came into town that "built new homes" for people who needed them but couldn't afford them. In every episode, it showed the team working extremely hard to build the house, paint it, etc. within a short period of time. When it came down to actually building the house, they actually just had a pre-made house shipped to the site in pieces and they filmed it being put together and made it seem like they built the entire thing within a week. She also told me that the humble and "quirky" team members of the show who helped plan and build the house were your typical Hollywood assholes who didn't actually do anything but get paid to stand there and be the face of the show.
so_fetchhhhh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:13:14 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My mom went to the Dr. Drew show and she said you could see production giving actors questions to ask against a subject and other actors given questions for the subject. That messed me up.
angstyart ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:19:04 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone been on Big Brother?
blsfan8497 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:28:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
See, i dont want to sound dumb, but Ive seen Jersey Shore a cpl times and know its not 100%. Only thing that i doubt is that people from Jersey are sometimes like that, especially when drunk/on drugs. I just want to know if its one of those shows that fakes everything like arguments just for views.
ecstaticplatypus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:30:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A friend of mine had her mom on Undercover Boss. They gave her money for my friends law school but holy hell the hoops they have to jump through to get it.
But from what she says, they're encouraged to share their sob stories, which explains the whole "opening up to a stranger" thing.
Grammarnazi_bot ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:40:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My sister was on a show like the X-Factor and America's Got Talent. The reactions not done by the judges are staged. I remember her passing, and we had to do an interview, and they told us exactly what to do.
Snarfler ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:06:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some of my family and some friends were on one of the MTV dating shows. They had my family invite people we knew to be some of the 'contestants'.
The dialogue was supposed to be fake except my family was apparently much funnier than the writers so most of the snarky things the parents say was just them making fun of people.
The winner was also picked basically at random.
Malt_9 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:23:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of my friends best friends WON Canada's WORST driver a few years back. Like all these shows, it was completely fake. They told them what to wear and how to act. They bought wardrobes for each contestant to make them into sterotypical people, told them how to talk and act... Most people know that this stuff is pretty much fake but that show was 100% scripted and fake. Im pretty sure they still make it too.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:37:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everything you say.
Even if you said it, and you came up with it, the time you say it on the show was a do-over cause they didn't get you saying it the first time.
Also, just cause someone says soemtbing doesn't mean they said it. They will edit you into saying whatever they want you to say.
jvawter ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:53:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've worked on several reality shows; a lot of stuff is rigged, scripted and/or twisted in favor of what the producers think will have higher ratings. Most of the time the producer is standing just off camera coaching the talent on what to say and how to react. It's also safe to assume that even candid moments have been shot 2 or 3 times.
On a show about people who've been dating online for years finally meeting in person, talent was coached to say they were married and the other was coached to say they had cheated multiple times. Talent was never allowed to be alone together so that they wouldn't know what the other was going to say and would have genuine reactions. We also staged a house for the local talent to appear more well-off than he actually was.
On a show about hotel renovations, only 1 hotel room is renovated with production covering all expenses. If the owners like the renovations, the production will give them a copy of the design book with all the paint swatches, furniture names, etc. so they can renovate other rooms at their own expense.
On a show about losing weight, the diary camera entries are 100% scripted and a lot of them are recorded back-to-back with just a wardrobe change. A lot of the surgeries are not fully covered by the production. Talent is required to come up with a certain amount of money upfront before even being selected for the show, the production company then pays for a percentage of the total costs while their legal team negotiates with the talent's insurance company for the remaining costs. In the end, if the insurance company won't cover it - which most don't since it's elective surgery - the talent is stuck with the bill.
On a nationwide talent search show, only a certain amount of actually talented people are selected because production needs to have room for people who are amusing due to oddities or untalentedness. The judges are only there for show and are essentially puppets for the producers.
John32070 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:27:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's sad that on talent search shows people who honestly deserve to make it farther don't get the chance if they don't have a sob story or don't have some quirk about them.
Leprecon ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:59:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know a couple that was on a house hunting show. The application process took so long that they already found a place. The film crew set up in their apartment, and shot a bit there of them giving impressions of their own apartment. Then they shot a couple of those in other apartments/houses. Then my friends 'picked' their own apartment.
Turns out an application process might take a couple of months and usually people don't have half a year during which they can crash on their friends couch while they wait for a producer to call then back.
exit6 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:15:05 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My wife and I were on "A Baby Story" and filmed an episode of Supernanny that thankfully got shut down 3/4 the way through. Baby Story was pretty real, although they did fake some stuff. Like they shot the doctor talking about something after the baby was actually born, or they filmed my parents a couple days after it went down, things like that. They told me that they'd faked entire births before though, when something unexpected happened.
Supernanny was subtle about how they controlled the narrative. They had a story they wanted to tell and they tried to get you to go along. That said Jo Frost really does know her shit, she could read people like nobody I've ever seen before or since.
Saxon2060 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:29:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I didn't want to be one of these guys but "not me but..."
Met some people at a wedding whose own wedding had been on "Don't Tell the Bride".
I can't remember all the details but basically the schedule was relentless, the whole affair ended up costing them shitloads anyway because of the time they had to take off work, transport and food, which the show didn't provide. The show rejected loads of their wedding ideas before they accepted one. And yes, their ideas. The bride not having any clue what it will be is staged. They had their ideas rejected for being too 'normal'. Needed to be weirder. They ended up suggesting pretty much arbitrary, Caribbean theme, steel drums, girls in feathers, neither bride nor groom were that in to it, just seemed like something fun, acceptable for the show, and not too awful.
The groom and his best man (twin brother), got in a bit of a scrap (not with each other) on the stag do. The brother also fell over and hit his face on a door, so was badly bruised and stuff. They heavily edited it to make it look like the groom and his brother had fought each other and the groom had battered him.
Mechashevet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:04:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A bit late to the party, but we sold our house to a couple and then the couple was approached by House Hunters or a similar show. They showed they three houses, including ours, and of course in the end they chose ours (which they already bought)
tonsofjellyfish ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:24:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
This thread has made me sad! Ignorance was bliss :)
sephrinx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:30:33 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Super late to this but two of my friends were on MTV's Made a few years ago.
They got sent to Australia for some bullshit trying to 'learn to live without each other' and all that. On the show it claimed that they were inseparable and couldn't live without each other and that they had to always be together at all times and do everything with eachother. It's not far from the truth, but the show made everything so over the top and ridiculously not like them. It was super scripted and almost everything was made up. They made them act like really weird white girls, they are super chill and nothing like what the show made them out to be.
My buddy Kenny and my friend Dan's girlfriend Jess are in it too.
Well I found a link to it, but it won't let me watch it without logging in to my cable something or other bullshit? http://www.mtv.com/episodes/77nhc5/made-twindependent-breezy-bailey-season-11-ep-17
XRustyPx ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:44:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Dont have been in one but they did a little documentary in germany where it came out that in the show "Supernanny" ,the nanny let a kids dog get put down to create drama.
LonerStoner97 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:54:36 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have never heard of any of these shows.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 09:57:41 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everything. Think about how boring reality is and then you will understamd why all reality showa are 100% scripted
shadowbannedkiwi ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 10:51:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A friend was on that Beauty and the Geek. He said the entire show is fake. Everyone is fed lines, the Geeks have to be 1980's Geeks and speak exactly like them and certain ones get a certain trait just to help make them look more pathetic.
The girls aren't all idiots, some are, but the others are very intelligent but they're basically yelled at to act dumber and read the script or get fucked.
The whole show is set up for certain "contestants" to win. Everyone else is just there for a paycheck that isn't really worth the stress.
Vaultboy9412 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:09:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hi there, I was on season 5 of beauty and the geek Australia. Imo heavily rigged and influenced. Lasted until the final episode. Any win is suspect as no independent verification (seldom see other competitors doing challenges) relationships heavily influenced. All cue cards used by the host are blank. Competitors are deliberately sleep deprived to increase drama. Hosts and producers will do anything to keep their plans going smoothly and will use any info to their advantage.
TheMysteryG ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:18:21 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
In a talent show, the audience clapping is NOTHING BUT A LIE! The producer signals when it's time to clap instead of them clapping because they like the act. LIES! LIES I TELL YOU!
Bucktoothbooks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:35:52 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on a cooking show that visits local dining establishments. Local hole in the wall kind of places. The entire show was set up. Almost all of the dialogue was fed to the patrons. The host wasn't even in during the shoot. The food was all cold and dishes matching certain patrons had been decided all before hand. They tell you what to say and how to act. I'd say 80% of what the patrons said on camera was fed directly to them by the producers. It took 3 hours to shoot a 10 minute segment. It's amazing how they stitch it all together and make it seem organic and natural. The hosts hair is the only obvious fake.
Aeleas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:50:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is this a show with a very alliterative title?
Bucktoothbooks ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:51:17 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
At first I thought it was a show about huge breasts.
MrYake ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:41:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Worked at a auction place in Canada and they had shot an episode of "baggage battles". The people on the show get to walk around the shop before the public and take multiple shots to get it right. They also know which bags are good and even put in jewellery and cash in them before. The only real part was the auction where the public could outbid them.
squigs ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 12:54:43 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Scapheap Challenge/Junkyard Wars
There was actually quite a lot of information about these shows in Robert Llewellyn's book.
They do seed the heap (I think this is obvious). They also remove anything that might be too useful.
There are other people to help them. Usually it's the show's engine expert that gets the engines working.
The shot of them running to their areas is reshot several times.
They lie a little about available time. The first half of the hours last 45 minutes each. The later ones last longer. Plus they're not remotely strict about the 10 hour time limit (sometimes they hint about this with comments about the sun setting early).
The challenge is 2 days after the build is complete. The production team will test the machines and make modifications - usually for safety.
On the whole though it is fairly honest. The teams do build the devices mostly by themselves, mostly in the time allocated and the actual challenges are honest.
Ihatethedesert ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:49:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
An old friends mom was on that crazy show Doomsday Preppers.
Come to find out, the show and the people are crazy on purpose. Yes she is a little out there, but nothing like what the show made her out to be. They have them do really dumb shit and say dumb shit on purpose.
Like the episode she was the star in, they had her build a catapult for "protection." Nobody would ever actually use it, but the producers told her it is for entertainment value. That the show is for entertainment and not about serious prepping.
She said duck it and went through it because they give you a whole bunch of prepping gear and food. Free shit just to make an ass of yourself for a little bit isn't so bad. She just wishes they would have been more serious about the show rather than going out of their way to make Preppers seem like batshit crazy people.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:16:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
There are some serious preppers out there though who make crazy weapons theyd actually use.
wimaine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:55:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone here ever been on one of the Gordon Ramsay shows? Kitchen Nightmares, Hotel Hell or Hell's Kitchen? What were those like?
mrsheikh ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 13:59:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I live in New Hampshire and there was a outdoor realty type show where they have "pretty people" to running an obstacle course made from trees and mud and stuff. Basically people that would not normally be out in nature and stuff. This was all filmed in the White Mountain area up here. They had a decent size crowd watching the filming of the show. They had a few of the dolled up girls and guys run the mud course a few times to get different camera angles and shots. They even had a shower on site so the contestants can clean up and do the course again.
stripeypinkpants ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:17:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was in an audience for 'beauty and the geek, Australia'. Very very scripted. The episode was of the beauty and the geek who had to make speeches about each other. After each person made a speech, the crew would quickly re-watch the footage to see if it needed to be re-filmed or if they could continue to the next person. Whilst they were watching this, the contestants of the show would be smoking, showing each other photos or even taking photos on their phones, gossiping etc. When they needed to do a re-take, the producer would tell them what to say or do to improve the take.
My knowledge of reality TV came crashing further when I knew someone who works with the Australian bachelor from a few seasons back. Each week a girl is eliminated from the contest. He said that to make it look like a week had gone by, they got the girls and bachey to change into a new set of clothes and do their hair a different way to make it look like the following week's elimination. They filmed 3 weeks worth of eliminations in one go. The producers also asked bachey not to eliminate some of the girls as they would definitely boost ratings with their quirky personality.
AbrahamsBeard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:17:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was surprised to find the leaves in a wooded area scene were fake. They lay down this stuff that's quieter.
They let you talk and make dialogue freely but will constantly interrupt and tell you to do or say something different. And you have to fake it the second or third time.
Also I was very surprised they (mtv) let people drink whatever they wanted. Teens were drinking their ass off and no one ever asked or checked or cared. It was all on tape. They didn't give a damn.
AbrahamsBeard ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:26:51 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Was on mtv true life.
We never got to see any footage. They would mail it out unedited to The HQ non stop. As soon as a tape was full they sent it out.
One guys only job was to mail the envelope the producer handed him.
(Surprisingly they don't use email to send the files)
When the show aired they had made up fake relationships and fake problems. After it was edited it didn't even seem like the same show
wimaine ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:31:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Any feedback on Catfish?
ChildofValhalla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:31:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's the show that remodels your "failing" restaurant from the ground-up? I know that one's real because they came and wildly altered a highly beloved local restaurant in my home town that had been around since the 50's. The menu changed from kind of a mom & pop pizza/light Italian place to a restaurant that serves lobster--in the suburbs of Flint. It lasted about two weeks after that show came in.
Jakeitto ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:04:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Is it Gordon Ramsay Kitchen Nightmares?
ChildofValhalla ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:17:42 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I looked it up. Apparently it was "Restaurant Impossible."
www.mlive.com/entertainment/.../despite_restaurant_impossible.html
EDIT: This makes for a more interesting read if you know that the reason the place had been in a slump for the last remaining years was because the owner's wife took over ownership after their divorce, and she very clearly had no idea what she was doing.
oh-just-another-guy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:42:13 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've always wondered about House Hunters and House Hunters International. People always see just 3 houses, and none of them match their expectations, and it always seems as if the realtor picks random houses, and then the couple always pick the home that did not have any furniture in it. Almost always that exact same pattern.
deodorant_moonbeams ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:29:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
He was the dad (of the teen moms kid)
Susim-the-Housecat ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:23:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on Jeremy Kyle, which is like the UK's answer to Maury.
I was on as support for my Mum, who was (is) a heroine addict and was looking for Jeremy to send her to rehab. (this was my mother's second appearance on the show, the first time was like 10 years prior for the same thing. My first appearance, I was too young the first time.)
I basically just talked about how I can't have a relationship with her while she's high and once I start having children I'll have to cut her out of my life because I wont have drugs (and all the drama it brings) around my kids.
I don't know if I'd say the show was rigged, but for days before we went to film it, they would call and ask us to talk about her, once they called at 2AM!! but they were trying to get us to say nasty stuff, and on the show they would read things we'd "said", but they took things out of context, or worse, cut chunks out so it sounded worse.
My Mum and Nan both said the people were trying to get them riled up, like they wanted one of them to come out shouting. We didn't really talk to Jeremy, when we were on stage, it was the first time we actually saw him and when they had "breaks" he would just sorta sit there and he would talk to the audience.
They also kept my mum separate from us before the show, and the worst part was they didn't even send her to rehab.
They sent her to a detox for like, less than a week, and then they sent her home in a taxi alone, and she was still out of it from the sedatives they gave her (to deal with the withdrawals). She wasn't even dressed properly, she had no underwear on. She took a bag of clothes with her, and none of it had been touched, she was dressed (barely) in the clothes she went there in, and they weren't even clean.
There was no aftercare. It didn't help her at all.
So yeah. It was a bullshit waste of time, and an embarrassment.
But we did get to stay in a hotel, and didn't have to pay for anything the whole time, which is always nice.
creativecartel ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:41:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So what I've learned from this thread is that basically everything in "reality" tv is not reality.
IamSoHandsome ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:42:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was in one for almost four years. It is mostly all made up. All of it. It was a hilarious mess.
Evie68 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:52:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I want to be a male model
Stingray12 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:10:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The guy I had a child with had 2 women pregnant at the same time. They got us all there to talk about it and wanted us all to say what they wanted and to argue, fight, cry.... It was such a shit show. I was young and naive and I shouldn't have gone in the first place. I was just taking advantage of a free trip to NYC!
Goofy1994 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:59:53 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lindsey Harrison I think
BiteYourOwnTongue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:28:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Family friend was on Big Brother and won. He did get a hefty chunk of money for winning. I don't believe it was entirely scripted, though. I'd have to ask my mom.
Eludeasaurus ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:25 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
which winner? i do know Big brother is farily real, i do know that producers prod the contestants in the diary room to try and get reactions and cause paranoia to maybe start a fight or showmance.
BiteYourOwnTongue ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:09 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Andy, he won a couple of years ago.
delmar42 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:32:12 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anyone know how real the show "Extreme Weight Loss" is? I feel like it's what "Biggest Loser" should be, focusing on one person at a time (or a few - I guess they film several episodes at once), and trying to actually teach that person how to eat and lose weight to be healthy. I like how this is done over a year, and not just a few months.
Jakester5112 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:42:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yes, I think you're right. We have no idea who got the deal, so they can't take it away.
g_tea ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:54:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Don't know if this exactly counts, but a friend of mine is a violin player and was in a string quartet in one of the "dates" on The Bachelor. She said that they film the same scenes multiple times, to get the perfect reactions to the date, etc. It is real per se, but by the 5th of 6th take of the scene, it becomes far less real...
Sigwrplwm ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:34:03 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it's a programme called Alone. Series 1 aired last year and it was amazing
MayorSasha ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 06:39:36 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on an Australian academic show that pitched kids from various public schools from around my state against each other to win some cool prizes and stuff. My school was from a pretty shitty area but all the kids my school took with them were all the nerdy kids so we felt pretty cool. The host was (still is) a pretty popular morning show host and hosts a couple of other shows for the network, and he pretty much completely ignored us when we weren't being quizzed for the actual filming. It took so long to film because the show films a week's worth of episodes in one day, so we have 5 lots of 3 kids for each day of the week, and we were ushered into tiny holding rooms with no windows for about 10 hours all up. It was really cool though, my school got to the grand finale and got some cool equipment for my campus and we got some cool stuff too. The funniest part though was the host just came round to us and handed us signed photos of himself, none of us even asked.
kazky ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 11:49:35 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Lol! No second date then ๐
Jamesc1116 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:49:15 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
So I'll add a little bit I'm not going crazy here;
I always laugh when I watch somebody walk through a door in a reality show, we DREADED doors and tried to avoid them at all costs; mainly because it took like 3 minutes to walk into another room.(they filmed you walking in from the outside then you had to walk back outside and walk in the door again so they can film from the other side.
There was a lot of planned activities, but there was nothing forced. They would make us goto a certain place or have a celebrity just happen to pop up but other than that whatever happened happened.
Obviously when you have cameras on you people flock to you, especially chicks. Sometimes we would go out with the producers after we filmed and have them run the cameras with no film, it was the ultimate pick up line and it always worked.
If you said something interesting the producers would make you repeat in like 5 times in like 3 different ways, it was really annoying and ruined the flow of a natural conversation quite often. For example:
Friend: last night was fun! Me; I liked that! Producer: cut say it again Friend: the bar was cool! Me: yeah you drank too much Producer: cut, more nouns and verbs Friend: the other night when we went to the bar I had so much fun! Me: a few days ago when we went out to club x you drank way too much. Producer: once more Me and friend: fuck you.
HeyImAmy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:54 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone I graduated from high school with was on the US version of Undercover Boss. If anyone watches the show and remembers the episode about Sky Zone, he was on that episode (he works at the Sky Zone location in Westborough if you have seen or ever see that episode). Long story short, I am friends with this person on facebook and follow him on Instagram. All I know is that he sat right next to the glass at a Boston Bruins Hockey game and flew to LA, if I remember right, to help shoot some videos for Sky Zone, like the CEO had promised him. He didn't post anything about what it was like being on camera or anything like that but at least I know that the CEOs featured on the show reward their employees.
Weswoodworth ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:53:31 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was invited to be on Steve Harvey's Talk Show in Chicago.
Briefly, girl friend and I broke up. She was upset and went on Steve Harvey's official Facebook page and clicked a link on their website and submitted our break up story that they had requested as a topic of discussion for their next episode.
The agent for Steve contacted my ex about the break up and wanted to fly us both up to Chicago. I turned it down however kept in touch with the agent.
They had contacted me if I would just go in independently and do the show. I said I would consider if all expenses were paid. Here were the show ideas they had me pick from...
I decided not to go through with it.
As much as I love Steve Harvey, I'm sure that the show would weigh a little bit of bias. I'm sure if you can hold your own, Steve would back you up but not worth it.
Pmcandew ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:06:39 on July 6, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on a travel channel rip off of Diners Drive Ins and Dives. The restaurant had us there from 8am until 2pm and we had to pay for all our own food and drinks (German beer garden). 90% of the shots they set up were not used. Also the show was supposed to be about take out food but this place didn't do to go orders... So strange! We kept trying to buy the host a beer but he kept deflecting and wouldn't accept one.
They tape a lot of shows near where I live and it's all fake. My parents were on one of these sell your house shows on HGTV. They were basically told what to say.
I hate most TV these days. The shows are fake and they spend 3/4 of each segment recapping what happened before the commercial break.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:21:24 on July 8, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
One of my friends was on The Price Is Right and before the episode they told everyone who would go up and in what order. Everything else is real.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:56:55 on July 27, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
that doesn't make any sense. It's based on bids
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:55:23 on July 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
What's based on bids?
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:51:47 on July 29, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
the price is right. You bid for something to be worth so much. The one closet to the retail price goes up to spin the wheel. That's not rigged
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:09:15 on July 30, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They tell everyone who will go up to bid before the start of the game
ViperDee ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:44:40 on July 9, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My bro was on Hillbilly Handfishing. He said it was pretty real, the was lot of editing to make it look more exciting. The fish just lay in a hole, they grab them and put them back in the holes so they mostly keep catching the same ones over and over. They said the hosts of the show were cool guys and the crew was laid back, very pleasant experience.
hiddentracktv ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:11:35 on July 12, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Looks like all the top responses in this thread were jacked word-for-word, and used to make this "article"
possyis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:06:23 on July 22, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
I had a super-bit (as in super-small-sized) on an episode of My Super Sweet 16. I performed as a member of a performance group that went to a different school of pretty much everyone else.
1) This was a rumor told to me by numerous people involved: The best friend of the girl was actually not the girl's best friend. Her real best friend was considerably short and the producers didn't think she'd come off well on screen so they had her choose a different friend instead to be her companion on screen. I had no way to prove or disprove this but it's stuck with me since then.
2) MTV only provides the camera crew and producers to help book events, but pretty much everything else is paid for by the parents. The "Expensive Car" given as presents to the kids are usually just rentals for the show.
3) I only had two interactions with the birthday girl: One day to record us "practicing" in front of her house and right before the performance. I still haven't seen the episode but I know they have a tendency to make the kids look like total asshats. While I probably wouldn't have been this girl's friend due to cliques, she was totally sweet and nice for the brief time I saw her. Felt bad when I tried to leave after my performance and had the dad stop me with big puppy-dog eyes asking me to stay and enjoy the party. So I don't know how they were portrayed on the show but they all were totally cool in my interactions.
4) No one on set cares for your signed waiver saying they can use your likeness on tv if you're a bit part. Since I was under 18 I had to get my parent's permission to appear and instead signed "Donald Duck" on the paper 4 times (god was I a lame). We were only a small group and I saw them looking through the papers so it wasn't that hard to miss, but I was never stopped for it. They might've taken it out on the band's leader though and I'd hate to think that he did because they could have easily contacted me.
DirtyRigsnPierogies ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:28:49 on September 24, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on a well known TLC show about people who are addicted to odd things. Mine was about an obsession with the scent of a certain floor and multisurface cleaner made with the oil of pine trees. First thing, I had to try and recall a painful or traumatic event from either adulthood or childhood that made me me do this. I had none, except for as a kid always loved the smell of almost pure pine oil my mom would mop our way out of our summer cottage each weekend in summer, since pine repels bugs. Always I would purposely leave a book from the library inside, so I could run in and give it a couple deep whiffs. That was not dramatic enough for the producers, so we had to add that my divorce was painful and contributing, despite the fact that my husband was on the show and we lรฎved together still, a fact viewers commented on too, since my soon to be ex huband stated thst that he stll cared for me and my health. My 5 bottles of pine cleaner wasn't enough for them, so they went out and bought 20 more. I cracked a joke about how I should just put some on a surgical mask so id have my hsnds free. They thought shots of me doing that would be great. One problem was I woke that day with a migraine, and didn't want to smell pine at all. So they went ad got the masks, and Arizona ice tea. Thats what I was sniffng the rest of that show tll we were done sniffng in my house during that days filming.. my 'big reveal' to my best female friend at a coffee shop was total popppycock. She knew about my pine fixation aready. Same with my mom and dad. Oops. None of us are good liars either. For what its worth, I got paid for the show. Nobody else dd though.
TyrannosaurusFerret ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:32:15 on November 16, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Extreme Home Makeover.... it wasn't my house but my mom's boyfriend's neighbor at the time. And I work as a caregiver so there was this big wheelchair event since the kid whose home was being remodeled was in a wheelchair. The host....i forget his name, and the designers were barely there. I spent 7 hours outside on a hot day doing this wheelchair thing for filming, and they didn't stick around to even meet with people for more than 15 minutes. They literally filmed their small scenes and left.
Did meet and fool around with a hot security guy though. That was real.
Marcus9388 ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 23:17:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My wife was on Survivor.
The contest itself and the challenges/voting you see on TV are not staged or scripted, but much of the drama and interactions between the contestants is completely fabricated or scripted by producers.
Also, the contestants bathe daily in real showers and are given protein bars/meal replacements off screen when they are shown to be starving or living on some kind of mush. You can't have everyone looking like homeless people on TV, even if they are supposed to be stranded out in the woods.
The producers obviously know who is going to make the final four/win before the show airs, and they edit it to make the winner a fan favorite or fan hated character to tell an interesting story.
balorina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:28:40 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They did a show about that once. They give them enough nutrition to meet their daily requirements but they aren't very filling or tasty. As the producer said, watching people starve and be emaciated on television is not good programming.
rutefoot ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 00:03:18 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've heard the opposite about the bathing from a survivor Cameraman who did a verified AMA a few years ago. He said everyone was given sunscreen and the women were given hygiene products but that's about it (and I want to say razors as well but I'll have to find the thread). In one of the seasons he worked on one of the contestants had an "accident" during one of the challenges. I don't believe the accident was aired, but you'll notice the contestant's shorts change colour to a drab brown for the rest of his time on the show. Much to the dismay of the other contestants and the crew, he could only rinse out his shorts in the ocean to the best of his ability.
balorina ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:13:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think it probably varies by season too. Some seasons they probably want to focus on the struggle between the tribes so will give them more nutrition and perks so they have time to focus on each other and not on surviving. Others they want it to be a struggle to survive so you get less drama but more struggle.
Gffcom ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:13:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I know a guy who knew this girl whose brother was on "The Apprentice". It turns out that whole "Donald Trump is a super successful businessman and a classy guy" thing was just clever editing.
BurtDickinson ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:56:46 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Some of my buddies are writers for keeping up with the Kardashians. Apparently when they told Bruce they wanted him to become a woman he was super pissed and walked off the set and they had to throw him an extra $750,000.
Heybun ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 04:13:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I can smell the bullshit all the way down from South America. If this were remotely true they would have sold this story to any tabloid for millions lf dollars. Not tell it for free to a redditor friend
Gus100k ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:48:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Please elaborate on this. Are you insinuating that the writers of the Kardashians influenced Bruces sex change
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:02:09 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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BurtDickinson ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 10:07:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Nah.
rarearthVAGINAmagnet ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 15:51:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The lights were rigged, my emotions were not.
metnem ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 00:21:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everything.
Everything is rigged.
Source: tv producer here.
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 01:12:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A month ago you said you were an accountant lol. Bullshit detected.
metnem ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:18:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Didn't think anyone would even bother looking.
I'm an accountant. Did American idol and the voice.
Fixed isn't even the word.
[deleted] ยท 3 points ยท Posted at 01:23:59 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah I'm sure that true. Jesus just give it up already.
Seattle1213 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 16:45:05 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They didn't tell us what to say, but they would put us in situations we wouldn't have been in.
ssw228 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:09:15 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I went to high school with one of the housewives of Atlanta type daughters. The daughter was having a carnival graduation theme which was spun to be a huge surprise with tons of close friends. In reality, the daughter on the show handed out invitations to all students (freshman to seniors) and teachers. There were so many invites that on the last day of school they were scattered all over the hallways. The party played repetitive carnival music that was enough to make people go crazy. The whole party was just a backdrop for the families to script their little kids into doing things. It was uncomfortable but eye opening. If it's too good to be true, it's too good to be true.
Restrictedreality ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 19:52:38 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Are you talking about Brielle?
ssw228 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah it was her
yuno4chan ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 18:51:29 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A producer for Comic book Men on AMC contacted me because I had an interesting item on eBay they wanted me to bring to the shop. It was a Chewbacca toy and apparently it was for an episode where Peter Mayhew was going to be on. So of course it's scripted, but what really shocked me was that I had to pay for travel there, had to pay for housing and would not get paid for even being on the show. So it was essentually me paying AMC to make money.
And I've met Peter Mayhew before so it was not worth it for the experience.
69sucka ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 19:08:48 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
glad you opted out of that one. reality tv is popular with networks because it's so cheap to produce. they had money to fly you out and put you in a hotel...believe me.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:39:51 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As much money as they're making from TWD, yeah they (AMC) had the money to fly OP out.
TheNumberMuncher ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:41:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Comic Book Men ain't got no budget, brah.
ChrisLeePortland ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:15:36 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My brother in law is a cameraman for House Hunters International, and he told me that it's pretty much all predetermined. The people already have a house they're purchasing, then the show finds two other houses that correlate with said house.
untitled07 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:28:19 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My time to shine. A friend was on House Hunters, and get this: the house is never actually bought. Every house the realtor shows is houses of the friends of your choosing, and they want you to take 2 weeks off work to go around pretending to be needing a new house. Terrible.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 21:01:07 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It's almost all rigged.
Every so often, a reality star will spill the beans, and then a week later their youtube channel is gone, their blog is gone, and they're being sued in court for violating a non-disclosure agreement.
4567898761 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:29:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They're all rigged.. one way or another. Alaskan Bush People is the worst one.. The Browns couldn't survive a night in Central Park.. Alone..
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:56:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
They were making a show that was similar to The Voice but was called The Choice. It ended up airing but they basically shortened it because it was so bad. It was that somebody would pitch themselves to a group of celebrities and then the celebrity would click the button if they wanted to go on a date with them.
I had some pro snowboarder guy come into my work with the girl who he chose to go on a date with. I worked at a trampoline park while I was in High School and they decided to have their date there. I was the one showing them around while they were on the date. This was the day I learned everything was fake. Literally the people with the cameras told them when to do everything, what to say, how to act. I was super pumped because, hey, I was going to be on TV. But then the show was so bad that they ended up cutting the show down and not even showing the date parts. =[
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:13:15 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Oof. That was so bad. They just took the chairs from the Voice. I'm glad it didn't last, because the concept was limited, at best.
Vaganhope_UAE ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:09:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Let's say my place of work hosted most famous car show in the world. The filming lasted about 2 hours repeating the same thing and failing every time. In the aired episode they showed it as full success
BridgetteBane ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:28:08 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Perhaps not precisely what you're looking for, but a friend was on Dr Phil. They made her cut her mohawk and take out her piercings and dressed her in a disgusting skirt-suit and did some filming out the house... but they had no idea what was actually going to happen on the show. Turns out what happened was Dr Phil gave her parents the honeymoon they never had, 150k towards a new home, and 30k towards appliances and furniture.
Fuck yea Dr Phil.
tylergravy ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 03:03:35 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I've edited 3 reality shows. Every scene is planned and controlled. Anything that doesn't fit the required storyline is just edited in a way to make it work.
ThePratoran ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 04:06:29 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: I learned that cutting my own cord was the best god damn decision I've ever made. Fake TV is okay but fake, unoriginal, racy, and borderline insulting TV trying to be passed of as reality is just disgusting. And as I have now learned, it's everywhere. Not saying the Internet is perfect but the shit some reality shows create is worse than forced love triangles in big movie titles.
DMagis ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:52:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Every reality show featuring a gaggle of women is fake. The storylines are mapped out and pre-written
freethinker1976 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 08:25:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My sister "won" the Bachelor. Pretty much everything is fake in that show. Re takes, scripted events and so on.
NinaLevin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 14:47:24 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
When I was about 9 me and my dad competed on robot wars.
My dad spent about a year making a robot, he's not a mechanic or anything he just really wanted to take me on the show because I loved it at the time. We entered a big old piece of shit and lost the match by being smashed to pieces and set on fire, obviously being 9 and expecting us to win I was heartbroken and sobbing.
Literally the moment after we lost the producers asked us to film a bit they air before the match where you say how you're gonna win and smash the other teams robot to pieces blah blah, they usually do it before you go on but they did it after we'd been beaten for some reason. They had to film it about 3 times because I was clinging on to my dad and crying, they gave up on me after the third take and aired it anyway
I tried to find it on YouTube but no luck, we have it on VHS somewhere. Those producers fucking hated me
ResettisReplicas ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:19:10 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Which was your bot?
NinaLevin ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 17:33:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
As grateful as I am that my dad took me on there, I'm way too embarrassed to say ๐ญ
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:35:34 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Isn't the point of a reality show to precieve it as real, but it's ultimately scripted. . Why would anyone think that it's genuine. Why would anyone care if it's real, nothing on TV is authentic, it's all a form of entertainment. After the mid 90s TV stopped being a outlet for information and just became a outlet for entertainment. There is no part of a reality show that is "real" , they all have casting calls, interviews, writers, a production team to guide for best results.
House923 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 20:58:14 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't seen Iron Chef mentioned.
I definitely haven't been on Iron Chef but i love watching and reading interviews of people who have been on these types of shows. From my understanding Iron Chef is pretty real, the biggest thing that helps the contestants along is the fact that they get told what the mystery ingredient could be before the show starts. They get a list of like five ingredients and one of those will be the secret. That's why they always immediately know what to start cooking as soon as the timer starts.
tunaman808 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 23:29:13 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Yeah, some people were "shocked" a few years back when someone wrote about Iron Chef for a newspaper or blog, and it was made known that the contestant chooses the Iron Chef in advance, and only that chef is present during filming. Like, at the beginning of an episode, when all the "chefs" are standing on the pillars? There's just one Iron Chef; the others are all stand-ins. Because Mario Batali and Cat Cora have better things to do with their time than stand on a stage to hear Bobby Flay's name get called out.
When the article was released and the Internet raged, I was like "WTF?!? Do these people not know how TV works?"
House923 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 01:03:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
And that right there is why they have to be so tight lipped about what is real and what isn't. Some minor detail gets released and people lose their minds.
karlos_1992 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:46:09 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Anybody watch or been on Choccy-Wokky-Doo-Daa in the UK,I could watch that balding woman make chocolatey treats for Whoopi Goldberg all goddamn day !
[deleted] ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 07:20:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I haven't got the scoop, but as an American, I think it's cute there's a show about chocolate on UK tv called "Choccy-Wokky-Doo-Daa".
neffs ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:32:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I cba to read all the comments but I bet the Pimp My Ride Jackhammer soul eater is in here seeing as it was a few days since he did his last appearance on IAmA.
I know a few singers in my area that have been through the Voice and X(mas single) Factor, and pretty much what has already been said is on par with their recollections. Fuck TV in general. The stars of most of the small UK daytime shows are cunts too. That orange twat, what's his name... Dickinson? Horrible bloke.
My family have been round a few of the sports guys and reporters, the worst being that John McCririck bloke. He's nothing more than an archaic tweed wearing dickhead who happens to believe in the old world where belittling women is pretty much par for the course.
My grandad was Mayor of a South Yorkshire city, and was into his horse racing. He met John quite often. Even while my granddad was wearing his garb my gran would be spitting feathers at McCririck being a chauvinist and generally belittling women in general when they got home.
You never see the real life behind the person in front of the camera, it's always paint by numbers and editing, just for views. Youtube is doing a good job of emulating it in a roundabout way.
B-Knight ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 22:30:57 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everything is fake.
/thread.
John32070 ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:14:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Never been on one, but used to watch Ice Road Truckers and it just got so apparent that stuff was played up it wasn't worth it. Oh, and truckers don't constantly blow their horns like they always put in.
Oh, does anyone believe the old story from the first Survivor of them taping on a soundstage next to where they were recording Price is Right?
PadishahEmperor ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 18:42:54 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
No one who knows anything about Survivor believe them.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 19:55:12 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I have a friend who went on Naked and Afraid. On the show the "contestants" are allowed to bring one item with them. Yeah, the item she wanted to bring was rejected and instead they gave her something that just made her seem like a dumbass. The whole episode was a set-up, in so many ways. That is just one example because I don't want her to get in trouble for talking about it.
nightlyraider ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 03:11:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
i dunno if "rigged" is the right word, but my friend observed that survivor had a thing for women with breast implants.
they seemed to grow as the women lost weight over the episodes during their fake starvation.
Cornholio94 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:48:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Not me but my mom found a script for Jersey Shore at the gym next to her job. She said Snooki was stuck up, which we all know.
420Grim420 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 17:56:45 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I always assume that the producers of Master Chef and Hell's Kitchen are behind the scenes rigging the oven temperatures without the contestants knowing; their food is always raw, and they look really confused about it.
Same thing with the Amazing Race, the producers are in there somehow telling certain taxi drivers to take a wrong turn, or having airplanes get delayed.
TheNumberMuncher ยท 2 points ยท Posted at 01:32:19 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Hell's Kitchen maybe but Master Chef is classy bro.
cbmeg ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:57:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
You really think the producers of a TV show can delay flights?
420Grim420 ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 05:38:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Or tell the ticket sellers to sell tickets for fake times/flights so they can easily delay/cancel... yeah. You don't?
[deleted] ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:33:42 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
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[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 20:21:28 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sometimes I wish life was.
Donjuanme ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 19:45:18 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
nda's are definitely real, not sure I'd trust anyone in here. but reddit has good sorry tellers, and some of those might have in-sight
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:39:50 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I think NDA's are nullified with anonymity.
The companies can try and prove who is here spilling the beans, but unless they have access to reddit's logs and ISP records, they are shit out of luck.
MHM5035 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:35:11 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Many reality shows have writers. They have the contestants do whatever challenge is planned and film everything. Then they make up a story using the footage they have. Sometimes they even have people "re-film" things.
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 22:40:39 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
While I believe that to be true, the question was for people with first-hand experience. Have you been on a show? If so, what was the experience like?
bearcatman3 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 22:43:00 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The only
AverageNebula ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:00:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Even though everyone knows this, the maury show is fake. Only evidence I have is a friend* (We live in west virginia. Every one knows eachother whether we like it or not) who was on that show with his wife, something about a divorce or what ever. Their still together and are perfectly fine telling everyone how much they got paid.
Yurei2 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 23:59:41 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Literally every single thing is scripted. It's just shot and acted to make it look like it isn't.
Petrolsniff ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:25:54 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
A large majority are fake or over dramatise outback and ice road truckers are worst for this.
One that you can say definitely isn't fake deadliest catch? Unless anyone wants to correct me.
Jscrig33 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:30:39 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Does porn count?
prof0ak ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 00:55:56 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
most of it is fake, or they only use the footage with the maximum amount of drama.
nothing real about it
TheSonder ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 01:21:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'd prefer to not give his name but he made it to the second round
twinkiedoodles ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:13:28 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
How about Married at first sight? Is it fake? I want to believe it's not..
famousmike444 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 02:40:26 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everything, nothing.
Qender ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:33:07 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I worked on a "reality" web series that consisted of us writing a rough outline, then asking the actors to improvise and figure out the challenges. The actors just sat there and asked us to write them lines for everything so we did.
Jakester5112 ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 05:42:57 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm actually not sure about that. I actually saw him at a restaurant! There's also a lot of pro athletes around too.
acerebral ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:00:00 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Everything, and nothing. It is so easy to tell any story with enough editing that there is no need to stage anything. See this example for how it works.
xpoc ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 06:27:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)*
Almost every reality show that followers skilled workers is fake (fishermen, ice truckers, loggers, whatever).
They always have some bullshit reason that they need to work against the clock. "The client needs this car for a motor show tomorrow. We need it completed by 9am or it will cost us big time". In reality the car was ordered three months earlier and the motor show isn't until the end of the year. The fake time limit adds drama to what is usually a very boring job.
Every time something breaks or goes wrong it's grossly over exaggerated too. A worker will break the crane or whatever and the boss will act like it's a huge problem to fix. *Cue the dramatic music and angry bleeped swearing from the boss. In reality it's usually a minor fault that occurs all the time and can easily be repaired.
The fuck-up is usually caused by the owners son or the youngest member of the team - someone who is constantly edited to look like a dumbass in search of his bosses approval.
I don't work in reality TV, but I see the same basic storyline whenever I watch these shows.
pbspry ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 13:58:32 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Wasn't technically on a reality TV show, but had someone from a major production company try to recruit me onto one a few months ago. It was one of those "test your knowledge" kind of shows with a celebrity panel and the producer flat out told me they would give me the list of questions ahead of time because they "wanted me to succeed." I politely declined.
So I just assume now that all of these shows are pretty much rigged.
TheHorsesWhisper ยท 0 points ยท Posted at 18:52:37 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I'm Mike the Situation Serrentino
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 20:18:08 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
reality tv is the cancer of tv
my least favourite show has to be kenny vs spenny. it's so cringy how scripted and fake it is. yet kenny assures us it's real. which annoys me even more.
Dr_Logan ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 17:16:53 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Shows with real monetary prizes tend to be real.
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:20:52 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
My old cable trainer was a professional boxer, he had been on ESPN and the like. He boxed for the USAF, and before The Contender was known, he was supposed to be the original winner. He spent months talking to producers and crap about how it was going to go down, he was the boxer pre-chosen to win the entire TV show.
The general of his base (Vandenberg AFB, CA) pulled the plug because it was 'bad publicity' for the USAF, the day before he was to drive to LA for the show. In reality, it was modern racism, my trainer is black, the general didn't like it, and completely fucked him over for it.
canadianleroy ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 21:56:03 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I did not know that...his 15min of fame.just got extended by a few seconds
[deleted] ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:31:30 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
All are fake. Television puke producers and directors are pathetic unoriginal scum.
-which explains the popularity of Reddit. Real people, mostly.
KingoftheGinge ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 00:35:20 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
TIL Grown men watch reality TV
bobbyshermanrocks ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 01:15:49 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Total fangirl. Loved you on ANTM and really enjoyed your LJ!
alkyjason ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 02:16:50 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
MTV's "Jersey Shore" = real.
The people on the show look and act exactly how the people of Jersey are.
ogcoliebear ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:09:44 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
AGREE. Don't do it!
ogcoliebear ยท -1 points ยท Posted at 06:12:16 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Of course, they would let them. But the producers say they are stopping them for their own safety. They will say anything to make them stay. The guy that tried to escape was highly intoxicated, and because production supplied the booze, if he got out and got hurt, it would be totally on the production company. They can't let that happen.
Stingray12 ยท -2 points ยท Posted at 02:39:40 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
I was on Sally but it never aired because I refused to cooperate and say what they wanted me to do/say
[deleted] ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 02:52:34 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Story?
ghotiaroma ยท 1 points ยท Posted at 07:28:31 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Sally had a mild scandal when it was revealed that she used the same couple as 3 separate couples on the show on different episodes, disguised and with new issues.
[deleted] ยท -4 points ยท Posted at 20:22:43 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
On every single court show all of the plaintiffs and defendants are actors. They are given an outline of their case and their characters ahead of time and a run through the scenario. None of those people or cases are real.
db__ ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 22:18:23 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
ITT: "my friend's sister's cousin's friend was on ${show}"
ogcoliebear ยท -3 points ยท Posted at 06:19:38 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
It is a reality show. It's trash television. Only idiots agree to this shit. It is called natural selection, get over it
BullDolphin ยท -5 points ยท Posted at 01:05:22 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
The Iraq war was totally staged with Iranian crisis actors.
sweatyyetsalty ยท -8 points ยท Posted at 05:38:23 on July 5, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
None of it is fake. The producers suggest things and set up situations that will likely result in drama, but it ain't scripted.
A good deal of the work is done in editing and in order to get the desired story arc, one needs a lot of material from which to edit.
I've never been on a reality show, but I feel like I have the authority to answer.
Stuart_Is_Worried ยท -20 points ยท Posted at 18:00:06 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
people who have been on reality tv shows, go fuck yourselves.
FTFY
[deleted] ยท 4 points ยท Posted at 18:49:46 on July 4, 2016 ยท (Permalink)
Someone is butt hurt.